How can we fix you up?
Topic 7 · 88 responses · archived october 2000
~terry
Sun, Jun 22, 1997 (22:49)
seed
What can we do to make the interface here better? Should we mimic
the Electric Minds interface with frames and cutesy logos? Just about
anything is possible. It is my fervent hope that our interface will not get in your way.
~maddog
Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (00:14)
#1
It looks fine to me Terry - Utne has a much more bland look
the main diffewrence seems to be speed - I thought it was because I had two browsers going, so I dropped out of utne for a bit, but I am still getting real slow loads here - in fact I did it all three ways - both, just here, and just there - in every case - things work much faster over at utne
I have an ancient 486 w/ 14,400 modem, so I am sure that does not help, but some folks over there with 33 modems said it was much slower here too - any ideas why?
and what about those colored fonts?
I frankliy like the idea of going everywhere - it will give the community more elbow room - everything is everything on the web anyway, no?
but I am having a bear of a time waiting for my box to respond here, compared to ze utne...
~terry
Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (00:28)
#2
What's the rul to get directly to the minds place on utne?
~gblank
Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (05:07)
#3
~gblank
Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (05:08)
#4
Woops. Wrong button.
~maddog
Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:12)
#5
I don't have that URL - I have just been going to
www.utne.com and logging in that way - {{duh}}
I'm no tech wizard
let me take this post to tell you that I am quite pleased with the setup here
I thought before that I couldn't do pictures and stuff, but now that you and mr thaler have enlightened me - I see much better now - thanks
(adjusting my electrical-taped geek spectacles)
how would I scribble a post?
or hide one?
I saw a hidden heather post somewhere, but couldn't figure that out...
~terry
Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (08:42)
#6
Ya know I've been doing this site for 3 years and no one
has ever asked how to scribbe a post before. It can be
done, gosh, I'll have to ask Dave Thaler. If you send an
email to yapp@umich.edu it gets posted in our yapp conference and
winds up in Daves mailbox at the same time. Will you pop
him a note about that please? And let me know the answer.
~maddog
Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (09:33)
#7
sure thing
it's not like I want to scribble a lot, but I would be interested in hiding/getting rid of rotten graphics links, etc.
~terry
Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (10:28)
#8
We'll get it with Dave Thalers help.
~drymartini
Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (19:30)
#9
Must be an ID hack up there. Surely not maddog stating that he is not really interested in scribbling posts, not he, why, he wouldn't scribble unless it was a dire emergency.
There should be a scribble feature IRL, seems to me. Lots of things I've wished I could unsay. And in print media, it would be nice to unprint rather than issue a correction, clarification or retraction...
~ignatz
Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (22:40)
#10
Yeah. Must be a ringer. Maddog not really interested in scribbling posts?
Hi, y'all. Slow for me, but I'm on a 28.8 modem at the moment.
Let's see about
~ignatz
Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (22:42)
#11
Well, putting drymartini in angle brackets made her disappear.
Sorry Martha.
Uh, what were we talking about?
Preview would be nice to have.
~terry
Mon, Jun 23, 1997 (22:51)
#12
We actually have an intercepter that allows you to preview if you put a bad html
code in. You want preview option? We could do that.
~KitchenManager
Thu, Oct 16, 1997 (00:07)
#13
Just popping in to expand my horizons.
Seems I might have been a little late.
WER
~stacey
Thu, Oct 16, 1997 (09:20)
#14
I keep coming here because I forget we're not talking about the mind buried
somewhere in my brain. Today it could certainly use some "fixing up"
~KitchenManager
Fri, Oct 17, 1997 (00:00)
#15
stacey;
it's getting to the point where the three of us should just
have our own conference.
So, what's wrong?
WER
~terry
Fri, Oct 17, 1997 (00:40)
#16
Really, what can we do to fix you up?
~stacey
Fri, Oct 17, 1997 (12:43)
#17
Just dealing with some major frustrations at this point. I love teaching but
I'm having difficulty with happiness in my job and, as you might expect, it is
negatively impacting other areas of my life.
Basically the inefficiency, lost vision and beauracracy of the school district
is really dragging me down. The low pay and lack of professionalism doesn't
help.
I don't want to drag you both down with me but if you have any suggestions, I'd
be willing to listen.
Right now my plan is to buy myself a bunch of flowers and get to work on my
resume.
A beer (w/ chocolate) probably would help too!
~terry
Fri, Oct 17, 1997 (13:14)
#18
You've hit on all the major cures. How about a change to a more enlightened
school district, did you teach around Austin when you were here? Are there
other job options where you are?
~donnal
Fri, Oct 17, 1997 (19:23)
#19
Are there any interested parents involved? You don't want to unload on them for sure, but it might help pick things up a bit if you can get support from them.
~KitchenManager
Sat, Oct 18, 1997 (00:04)
#20
Hey, a different voice in here.
Hi, donnal!
Couldn't bring me down much further, stacey.
Sounds much like me at my job at the moment.
If'n ya find something that works, let me know.
WER
~stacey
Mon, Oct 20, 1997 (09:24)
#21
Donnal: tons of interested, concerned parents involved! They are the ones
coming to me with their frustrations about the school system. The difficult
part is, I can do everything in my power but once that child leaves my class-
room, I've got very little say in their educational game plan and that is the
response left to give the parents.
~stacey
Mon, Oct 20, 1997 (09:29)
#22
WER: Sorry to hear you are dealing with similar issues. At this point, I am
lokking into other districts but which is worse... the devil you know or the
devil you don't know? I am also looking into different careers. Passion is
important in my life and the two career related passions I have had were in
education and journalism. Right now I'm considering technical writing and
a training position for a larger company (large to me spells "room to grow
up and move laterally if so desired"). I will keep you updated and let you
know how successful I am. My philosophy is that you spend the MAJORITY of your
life at work and life is too short to spend it doing something you don't love
(or in a place that makes you miserable)
Happy wishes for your day at work today!
~terry
Mon, Oct 20, 1997 (18:12)
#23
Did you like your job in Austin? At the place where we worked?
~stacey
Tue, Oct 21, 1997 (10:45)
#24
I felt like once the learning curve dropped off, I was settling for mediocrity face it, the whole company was pretty mediocrity based. They wanted to be the first and best until it came time to mantainence! I liked the people and I like the technology aspect. I really would've rather worked with NetRabbit though.
~terry
Tue, Oct 21, 1997 (11:07)
#25
Yeah, I wish we would have hired you back then. But, water under the dam.
Do you see yourself working back in high tech for a startup company?
~stacey
Wed, Oct 22, 1997 (12:35)
#26
Yes, I could see that. At this point I see more potential in working for a larger company that leaves room for lateral and upward movement. Learning curve is important to me and I like the high tech field... always growing.
~terry
Wed, Oct 22, 1997 (20:02)
#27
Startups are exciting places to work, especially when everyone believes
that they have the "thing" that's going to change your life. And then
there are those stock options. But nowadays, a company only has a year
or two to make or break it, unlike the companies in days of yore when the
period was five or more years. It can be a real roller coaster. Rewarding
and frustrating at the same time.
~KitchenManager
Wed, Oct 22, 1997 (23:24)
#28
So, what skills, familiarities, languages,
etcetera, do you think are currently
the most necessary to switch to the computer
world?
WER
~terry
Thu, Oct 23, 1997 (03:07)
#29
Nowadays, I'd say the quickest path would be to know Windows NT 4.0
Server and Workstation inside and out. It helps to know TCP/IP networking,
UNIX (AIX, BSDI, Solaris, SunOS, etc.), C++ is a good language to know,
SQL Server, IIS (the webserver used by NT), Microsoft Access 97, the list
goes on.
A lot of companies are looking for Internet/web saavy folks who can build
dynamic websites. I'll try and get you a more complete checklist.
~stacey
Thu, Oct 23, 1997 (09:30)
#30
It's the "everyone help stacey switch careers" conference site. Everyone is welcome!
~terry
Thu, Oct 23, 1997 (11:18)
#31
Hey, it's the web site of the day.
By the way I found an ftp program you might be interested in:
AbsoluteFTP
Clients that pattern themselves after the Windows
Explorer interface have
inundated the FTP scene as of late, yet a new entrant like
AbsoluteFTP can still
make quite an impact despite following the trend. Unlike most of the
competition, AbsoluteFTP presents an Explorer-like view of both the
remote
and the local directories. This allows you to easily drag and
drop files
between the sites after either tiling or cascading the sites'
windows. You can
even launch multiple sessions simultaneously and carry out file
operations on
different sites concurrently. Like CuteFTP, AbsoluteFTP gives you an
option of
either quickly connecting to a site (via the QuickConnect icon) or
selecting
from one of the many sites listed in the Connection Manager. The
Connection
Manager comes pre-configured with more than 200 useful and cool FTP
sites, and
you can also add your own sites using the intuitive Session Wizard.
Another
cool feature in AbsoluteFTP is that it imports your file types from
Explorer, so
when you want to view a file on a remote site AbsoluteFTP will
automatically run
the application that is associated with the file.
Additional features in AbsoluteFTP include caching of remote host
directory
listings, auto-resume for interrupted file transfers Network
Neighborhood
support, an abort option, auto hide of dot files, PASV support, and
many of the
same features found in the Explorer client (like multiple layout
views, quick
sorting options, and property tags for files). While AbsoluteFTP
does sport
several features that you won't find in the competition, several
important
features that you will find in other FTP clients are noticeably
absent in
AbsoluteFTP. The most glaring omissions are file find capabilities,
site
synchronization tools, a configurable toolbar, remote file editing
capabilities,
firewall/proxy support, options for changing the attributes of a
file, support
for macros and custom keyboard commands, site bookmarks, Keep Alive
functionality, and advanced configuration options.
Pros: Allows you to browse multiple sites simultaneously,
attractive interface, inexpensive price tag
Cons: Lacks many critical features that are found in
competitive FTP clients
For the latest information on AbsoluteFTP, check out:
http://cws.internet.com/32ftp.html#absolftp
Sorry, I got excited about the prospect of kitchenmanager getting his
content up on his website. What was the name of that website of yours
again?
~KitchenManager
Thu, Oct 23, 1997 (13:36)
#32
Me or stacey...
Ok, back to you, stacey,
or not.
I've heard web design, Java, and networking were the big three...
WER
~terry
Thu, Oct 23, 1997 (21:14)
#33
Add security/electronic commerce and you have the big 4.
~KitchenManager
Thu, Oct 23, 1997 (21:23)
#34
Back to other stuff...
Installed crt today, and an updated hyperterminal,
still won't let me in.
?????
WER
~terry
Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (06:47)
#35
Hmm, you may want to call me and I'll talk you through some things.
I tried dropping you an email from my cell phone while I was running
around Austin today. My cellphone emails tend to be very brief.
I suspect you may need to look in to AOHell's optional tcp/ip "stack".
You'll find this on their Internet section. This would let you run
normal, everyday garden variety apps like everyone else.
Otherwise, go for a local Austin ISP like BCSI. They're at Spicewood
Springs and Mesa Drive on the northwest corner in a little office bldg.
up on the 2nd floor.
Email cliff@bcsinetwork.com and mention that I referred you. Or call
338-4824.
~stacey
Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (11:24)
#36
cellphone emails?!?!?
~terry
Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (14:55)
#37
Yeah! I gotta tell ya' about this cool cell phone I got.
The service is called AT&T PocketNet and the phone is called
a Samsung Duette.
Whenever I get an incoming email, on the Spring or any of my
email accounts, a copy gets forwarded to the phone where it beeps
and I can scroll through it in a little window. I can reply to
it (though typing on a phone keypad is a bit awkward, they've
put in some shortcuts to make it faster than you would imagine),
I can forward it, I can send it along as a fax and I can save the
senders email in my bookmarks.
It also browses the web and I can store information on my pocketnet
website and access it. Also there are quite a few other pocketnet
websites for geting stock reports and looking up nationwide yellow
and white page listings, etc.
From their website:
"It keeps you in touch with your desktop organizer and directory when
you're nowhere near your desk, and it gives you the convenience of
easy dialing to all of the numbers in your address book."
http://www.mobile.att.net/pocketnet
Pretty incredible.
~stacey
Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (14:59)
#38
WOW!
~terry
Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (15:05)
#39
Yeah it's cool to actually stay caught up with my calls and emails when I'm out and
about and actually keep up with the rapid pace of things. When I leave my office,
I put my phone on forward and my emails already forwarding all the time. Now, if I
can figure out a way to pipe all these comments to it???
~terry
Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (15:07)
#40
Like just now I heard three beeps on my cellphone and it was an incoming
email from kitchenmanager. He's just realized what's wrong. And expects
to have it fixed tonight.
~stacey
Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (15:07)
#41
Doesn't sound efficient so much as cutting edge neat!
~terry
Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (15:13)
#42
It's pretty efficient, I can keep up with all my calls and emails, and at
least give short replies to folks to let them know that I've gotten their
email. I get 300 minutes a month talk time and unlimited email and web browsing.
I like it that all of this is in one little compact unit that I can wear on
my belt.
The only major drawback is that you can't get calls while you're in email. They
go to voicemail then.
~stacey
Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (15:32)
#43
Need call waiting for email?!?!
This is life gets too complicated for me and I return to my tv-less hovel and cook over open fire.
~terry
Fri, Oct 24, 1997 (17:08)
#44
You know, Stacey, once I lived back in the woods in Oregon in a little
cabin with a wood cook stove by a clear mountain stream, I grew my own
food from organic seeds and compost, drank right out of the pure
mountain stream, and had no radios, computers, tvs or anything like that.
I chopped wood to stay warm. It was a good life.
It's a good life now, but things are much more complicated and costly.
And you need one of these PocketNet devices to stay in touch. I can
see your point though. There are some benefits to living a simple life
in nature.
~KitchenManager
Sat, Oct 25, 1997 (00:39)
#45
You oughta be able to write a perl script
to forward these posts, or configure a mailing
list. Don't know the restrictions on yapp,
but either should work.
WER
~terry
Sat, Oct 25, 1997 (09:42)
#46
We're linked to mailing lists already and conferences can be set up
that are linked to mailing lists. I could create a single conference linked
to all the popular topics that was linked to a mailing list.
Or suggest it to Dave Thaler?
Right now I'm working on Snow White for our http://www.childrenstory.com website.
~KitchenManager
Sat, Oct 25, 1997 (11:54)
#47
My thoughts exactly.
Or, you could set up a spider to run every 15 minutes,
fetch posts since its last rounds, and e-mail you what
it finds.
You can link conferences to mailing lists and newsgroups,
but can you link specific topics only to mailing lists?
WER
~terry
Sat, Oct 25, 1997 (12:00)
#48
No, whole conferences actually.
~KitchenManager
Sun, Oct 26, 1997 (00:23)
#49
Oh, well...
WER
~KitchenManager
Fri, Nov 7, 1997 (01:21)
#50
Okay, somebody fix me up,
I'm breaking down fast.
WER
~KitchenManager
Fri, Nov 7, 1997 (01:24)
#51
Actually, I think what I need to
get something pierced, branded,
or tattooed. Some physical damage
to alter my outward appearance
would just about straighten out my head
right now.
WER
~terry
Fri, Nov 7, 1997 (07:09)
#52
I'm not qualified or certified in those areas. What brought on this grim
reaper period all of a sudden? We could pitch in an offer some suggestions.
~KitchenManager
Sat, Nov 8, 1997 (01:08)
#53
Can't explain it all on here.
Reality checks happening faster
than my head can process, I guess.
WER
~KitchenManager
Sat, Nov 8, 1997 (01:11)
#54
Ooops, forgot headers gave line breaks.
I'll remember next time. Still seeing
what tags I can use where here.
WER
~terry
Sat, Nov 8, 1997 (09:15)
#55
You can't give us a clue? I promise I won't
make light of it.
~KitchenManager
Sat, Nov 8, 1997 (11:34)
#56
Things aren't what I thought they were,
so I don't know where I am.
~stacey
Mon, Nov 10, 1997 (15:19)
#57
hey hon! What be ailing you. What a fright to come back to such sadness. Were you just missing me? Is that what got you so down? My completely uncertified abilities have me believing this is bigger than a bad day at work, is there anything I can do to help? Careful, you keep this up and Little Italy may get an early evening call. Wouldn't that suck, then you'd have to put a voice to the type and my winter visit wouldn't catch you totally off guard.
Did'ya succumb to those piercing urges? Any place interesting?
*smile* and *hug*
I hope you feel better today.
~mikeg
Tue, Nov 11, 1997 (07:09)
#58
Share share share. There is nothing and no-one to be afraid of here.
~KitchenManager
Tue, Nov 11, 1997 (09:33)
#59
Not yet, stacey, can't afford it.
However, if'n you're payin'
I'll shove it wherever you like...
I'm coming to terms with it for now.
~terry
Tue, Nov 11, 1997 (10:09)
#60
Be like Mike. I agree with that, and I hope we keep it that way.
~KitchenManager
Tue, Nov 11, 1997 (10:49)
#61
For clarification:
The jewelry, stacey, the jewelry.
PS--the people here are not what
I hava da problems with = )
~stacey
Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (11:10)
#62
Glad you're coming to terms with it!
Whooo! and thanks for the clarification, you had me thinking all SORTS of things!
~KitchenManager
Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (12:27)
#63
Do tell, girlfriend, and be
real thorough and descriptive.
And actually, I'm relapsing
again already. Es mi manera.
~stacey
Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (12:54)
#64
At this rate, you'll run out of pierced-free pieces parts!
Need a pep talk? I'm usually not too good at them but I'd give it a whirl. When life gets absolutely insane and overwhelming, I typically check out for a day or two for some mental health work -- a drive in the mountains, me and my journal hanging at a coffee shop, a run, a skate, a good cry and kick the neighbors dog.
The dog thing was a joke.
~terry
Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (13:47)
#65
Wow, you have a journal!
~KitchenManager
Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (14:33)
#66
Do I feel a new topic coming on...
~terry
Wed, Nov 12, 1997 (14:57)
#67
El Nino?
~mikeg
Thu, Nov 13, 1997 (06:47)
#68
hey, I'm single again after two years. Funny feeling.
~terry
Thu, Nov 13, 1997 (09:48)
#69
You might check in to http://www.minds.org (for singles), one of our
newest sites soon to be http://www.clearminds.com
~stacey
Thu, Nov 13, 1997 (12:48)
#70
Mike... I hope it is for the best! I'm sure you'll find plenty of whatever you need be it support or someone to get you into trouble, here!
Yes Paul, I actually have several journals at any given time. I've kept one ever since I could write.
~mikeg
Fri, Nov 14, 1997 (15:07)
#71
I'm sure it will be for the best - thanks for your kind words, Stacey.
We parted with one of those cheesy "mutual agreements", and we're still
"really good friends". It's unfortunate both of those are true, otherwise
they'd be great things to laugh about. Maybe they are anyway. Hmm.
~terry
Sun, Nov 16, 1997 (22:43)
#72
Remind me to discourse on the male barometer sometimes.
~stacey
Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (10:33)
#73
Discourse all you desire, Paul -- it's what we do best! Okay, we're really good at it anyway!
~mikeg
Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (18:55)
#74
What does everyone think to my opening a new topic charting the progress
of my new, single life?
~terry
Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (18:58)
#75
That would be fine.
Go for it!
~stacey
Wed, Nov 19, 1997 (11:25)
#76
I have no arguements.
~KitchenManager
Tue, Jan 6, 1998 (09:40)
#77
Anyone in here got a cigarette?
~stacey
Thu, Jan 8, 1998 (21:09)
#78
you're quitting...
~KitchenManager
Thu, Jan 8, 1998 (23:58)
#79
Thanks, Stace.
~KitchenManager
Thu, Apr 9, 1998 (02:24)
#80
Anybody in here have a spare day off that I could borrow?
Hmmm...please?...I'm begging here...NO?
oh, well...
~stacey
Thu, Apr 9, 1998 (09:13)
#81
you can have some of mine.
but they don't roll around until the middle of June.
~terry
Thu, Apr 9, 1998 (10:18)
#82
Sure, I'll come in and take your place for a day and
you can hang out and play all day. Just be sure and
leave me directions on what to do.
~KitchenManager
Thu, Apr 9, 1998 (12:33)
#83
t'anks!
(but with me and my martyr like work ethic, I'll just
keep working till one comes my way...looking like that
could be as early as next Thursday...keep your fingers
crossed...)
~stacey
Thu, Apr 9, 1998 (17:00)
#84
that's my birthday!
~KitchenManager
Fri, Apr 10, 1998 (00:35)
#85
I know, and now I have your address...
~stacey
Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (09:11)
#86
so you gonna use it?
~KitchenManager
Tue, Apr 21, 1998 (00:05)
#87
You haven't gotten it yet?
I wonder if it got lost with
my Christmas present...
~stacey
Wed, Apr 22, 1998 (15:27)
#88
i got it.
and I got the hint too!
(i'll send the christmas present soon...)