What are you listening to right now?

Hey, I highly doubt I will find anyone with similar tastes, but right now I aam really into a few groups. 311, Tribe Called Quest, and the Beastie Boys rank right up there with Dave Mattews rounding out the group. I would really like to hear what other people are listening to, I would also like to know if any one has even heard of these groups (with the exception of DM) especially 311. ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!? {:

311 played in Austin a few times, yes I've heard of them. And the Beastie Boys put me through H.S. of course... What am I listening to RIGHT NOW? The hum of my "slower-than-molasses-in-the-wintertime" Macintosh! Last night was "the Silencers" old Sinead O'Conner and Mary Black. Had some Sisters of Mercy going there for awhile but had to tone down with my mellow mood.

Nice of those beastie boys to buy your textbooks and cover your tuition, did they spring for your cheerleader outfit also?

Now, now! I was NOT a cheerleader! Never ever! Ever!

But it was still nice of those beastie boys to put you through school. We'll forgive you for not beinga cheerleader. You would have been a great one though.

I was a better jockette. My voice wasn't quite high enough for the rah rah bunch! Besides, what the heck does that mean, "You would've been a great one...?"

Your athleticism would have made you outstanding as a cheerleader, not to mention your great looks.

But my neck would've never withstood the headwhipping around action. Yesterday was a Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young kinda morning.

Good point about the neck.

Last night it was an Indigo Girls night -- with the snow coming down. To whoever is a big 311 fan, they played in Denver last night! Sorry for the post-concert notice.

Did you go. Speaking of girls (not grrrls), when are the Spice Girls playing?

Nope. Didn't go. Concerts I am anticipating: Indigo Girls in Denver 12/13 GusGus (ambient jazz/funk) 11/29 Twisted Sister 12/10 -just teasing on that last one, they're not even touring!

Such a tease!

*smile*

RED HOT BLUE -- a collection of Cole Porter songs (performed by... Bono, the Pogues, Nenah Cherry and various other, seemingly non-compatible artists. A benefit CD and worth a listen!

Still Breathing.

I'm glad you are, a necessary part of our existence, that breathing thing.

Cole Porter thing sounds interesting...Neat the way music was crafted then, in his era...really like a lot of that stuff... Listening to Dylan's Blood on the Tracks..."If You See Her, Say Hello"- really dark, pretty, quirky song (sort of gets, in deference to Cole Porter, "under my skin", you know?)...

I listened to "Red Hot Blue" for most of the weekend. Broken up only with Cat Stevens and the Indigo Girls. Oh, and the Sunday morning jazz program on the radio.

Couldn't of made it through tenth grade without Cat...kind of sad, thinking about him now...illogical, maybe, because he's being/doing what he wants...feels like he's dead, though- the man that wrote "Wild World", "Oh Very Young", and "Peace Train" could never endorse the murder of Salmon Rushdie, you know? Think I'll listen to Cat today...

I tend to prefer to believe that he is dead. He certainly is not the same singer/songwriter of days gone by. I try not to meld the two images of him together... it ruins the warm, safe happy sensation I get when listening to his music.

My friend in NYC used to be married to Cat Stevens wife, Susan. I know because I married John and Susan.

You married them? As a JP or as a harem type thing?

As a Universal Life Minister type of thing. It was Johns idea, I went along with it somewhat reluctantly. My first and last marriage ceremony.

listening to CS&N presently... "helplessly hoping", like 7 times in a row...that kind of night...

Am lost.....

Anyone here?

it's a bbs kinda thing... (sheesh...can't take you anywhere)...

Glad I'm not talking to myself! Good to hear from you.....

so...what are you listening to? I'm up to, like, 14 "helplessly hoping"s... (and that's a heapin' helpin'- huh?)

old biker shows (you gotta put somethin' else on)

what in the hell are "old biker shows"? the wild ones? ez rider? some kind of demented brandon tartikoff kind of thing? what? and I require my self-pity in large doses, thank you...

just somethin' I flipped too. been trying to figure out what it is. and it's b/w.

14 times??

sinking rapidly to van morrison "tupelo honey"- "crazy love" terrain... then a shot of floyd ("wish you were here")... next stop, oblivion...

you're silly ;) not sure if I'm familiar with those...........

Hum a few bars ................

do it again.....didn't quite get it..................hmmmmm

probably because they're irish... the whole damn world discriminates against us... and where would the world be, without us? who'd populate it?

hey, sorry. floyd is irish? van morrison?

did you get my post?

checking (so often oblivious to these things)... yeah, morrison's irish... and roger waters must be (he's so damned profound, you know?)...

forgive me, but the doors and pink floyd?

speaking of pink floyd, have the division bell and my fav track is take it back. but don't think that's the same floyd you were talking about........

sigh... "oh, very young"... Van Morrison, not jim (we don't claim jim, though he claims us)... Division Bell, I take it, is waters-less floyd...which really isn't floyd at all, but an oldies act (they have to hire song writers now)... Wish You Were Here was released mid-70's...

Hate to tell ya nick, but there's a whole lot of Catholics who'd love to finish populate the world...

thanks for clearing that up......

did roger waters do the wall?

no, that was jeroboam, I think... (yes, he did)...

never heard of jeroboam(??) you like the scorpions?

saw a bit on croce (sp?). didn't know he went in a plane crash. thought that was a bit eerie considering how many others have gone that way too.

got the spelling right... really liked him... where did you see it?

vh1. funny, cuz I had leroy brown going through my head a few days ago.....

did he do the one about spitting into the wind and pulling the mask off the lone ranger? you know, you don't mess around with Jim? or am i really confused?

yeah, that was him... he did much better stuff than that, though... are you finally listening to music now?

only the ones in my head.....

well, an irishman probably wrote those, too...

heehee (although that's probably close to the truth, as there's irish in the bloodline somewhere)

hey, if it's in there, believe me, it's dominant... hmmmm....

amazing that a drop can be so potent

boy, are those famous last words...

and trust me...being irish, i know about such things...

aren't you scottish too?

sigh...jeroboam was the guy in the Bible (second kings, I believe) that "pissethed against the wall" (and truly pissethed off God, in the process... how many midianites do you know? see what I mean?)

walked into that one....

Hey, baby... Scotti (from whence Scotland derives) is latin for irish... and James the VI kicked us out of Scotland in the 16th century (he obv. had no sense of humor- that's what happen when they turn into normans)...

Ooooo, and a history lesson to boot! TTFN :)

thats right, make fun of the irish guy... (I can smell norman blood, by the way)

Anyone here?

well, well... out for more blood tonight, are we? what are you listening to? I'm writing and grooving, baby... 10,000 maniacs (unplugged)... "Hey, Jack Kerouac", specifically...

...I think of your mother..." Hey, nick! That was a weekend choice for me as well. Along with Brian Eno's Ambient Music for Airports, THE THE (Dusk), Indigo Girls (Swamp Ophelia), Sade (Promise), Laurie Freelove (Heaven on Earth) Tanita Tankirim (for got the title... her new one!), random Indian music, and The Pogues! Oh, and when Brandon wasn't listening... the Eagles, Cat Stevens and Fleetwood Mac!

and what does brandon have against the eagles, cat stevens, and fleetwood mac? currently back in CS&N pattern, and holding...

The most open minded man I know has an irrational dislike for anything classic rock related (in era or otherwise!)

listening to sublime..."santaria"... all the way up ("can't define" it... precludes thought)

I'm stuck in the 60's. I still love Jimi Hendrix and Joni Mitchell just to name a few. I get so irritated when I hear anything new (with the exception of the Counting Crows, who for some reason appeals to my melancholy sensibilities). I want to do to Mariah Carey albums what Gloria Steinham did to bras in the 70's.

think i wanted to marry joni, when i was 16... one of the most gorgeous voices i've ever heard... and jimi sounds as fresh as ever (for the most part)... counting crows are truly excellant, but there's really a decent amount of good stuff out there...

listening to the chili peppers...red hot minute... "my friends" (it's a stone groove)...

hey stranger

stranger than you think (even)...

tell me something i don't know.....

jeez... where would I start?

impress me with your knowledge, big boy

perhaps we should continue this discussion elsewhere? check out the couch.

wandered in there, few minutes ago... unSPEAKABLE things going on- (that wer is an animal once he gets a head full of steam, I guess)

then we'd fit right in. meet you there!

beginning to wonder if mono was all you gave me...

what are the symptoms?

creeping paranoia? (that couch scene was truly gruesome, by the way... thanks so much, for including me)

sorry you felt uncomfortable. perhaps you'd like a place less crowded?

i'm easy... are you listening to music?

no. and you're easy? am not going there........

Hey, I didn't put up that much of a fight...

yeah, should've kept working on you. what's on your mind tonight, sweetie?

I dunno... just another pleasant valley thursday... did get miss tammy'd today...

miss tammy'd???

listening to sublime again... yeah, miss tammy'd (and you call yourself a southern girl?)

never claimed that

One innocent slip and you're casting aspersions on my character, nick?

Aspersions? Hell, you're my hero, wer...

And as far as I know, I'm not even Irish...

That may very well be... (we Irish, after all, are a little too "provincially squeamish" for those couch kinda things)

However, I'm currently listening to A Chieftans Celebration right now, specifically Here's A Health To The Company...

and The Strayaway Child. I truly love this one.

rock on, wer... listening to brian wilson... "don't worry baby"... (slays me, every time)

Got Shoulders in right now, listening to Each Little Cannibal right now, Mr. Troll's already gone by on this round. Typed too long, Offerings is playing now. Lyrics I think you'd appreciate, nick.

From now until after the elections, the album Survival by Bob Marley and the Wailers will be playing over & over in my head. Particularly, the songs "So Much Trouble In The World", "Babylon System" and "Ambush In The Night"!

Oh, yes, "Revolution" from Natty Dread album. (PLEASE do not confuse this with "Revolution" by the Beatles; the two songs have very little in common! Also "Equal Rights" by Peter Tosh on the album of the same name. And "Talkin' Bout A Revolution" by Tracy Chapman. Finally "(For God's Sake) Give More Power To The People" by The Chi-Lites (written by Eugene Record)

Listening to collection of REO Speedwagon, does take me back

Can't Fight This Feeling is on right now *boohoo*

hey... hafta split, i'm afraid... be gone 'til tomorrow evening, probably... if you wanta, check out my friend Diogenes Bob's new site... www.angelfire.com/la/diogenesbob/index.html that's where I've been posting, recently... lots of good stuff there... (post some) oh, listening to sublime again... (that's what a miss tammy does to you... makes you mean)

lemme try that address again... http://www.angelfire.com/la/diogenesbob/index.html should work better...

ok, be careful :)

listening to the soundtrack from "dazed and confused"..."cherry bomb" where you at?

waitin' for you. haven't seen dazed and confused. think i know cherry bomb, though, give me a couple of lines.......

Dazed and confused, was this a Linklater film?

great movie (have you seen "slacker"?)... you know, the runaways (joan jett)..."hello daddy, hello mom/ i'm you're ch-ch-ch-ch- cherry bomb" (very juvenile, socially dysfunctional lyric... i like it a lot)

where'd ya go? who is linklater? (yeah, i know, behind the times again *sigh*)

know joan (calls me every sunday *snicker*), still not sure of cherry bomb......

yeah, it was... linklater is terrific...

Hello? Who in the heck is this dude?

yoohoo.......talk to me..........somebody......pleeeeeeeeeze!!

he's a totally cool austin director... "daved and confused" and "slacker" are must-sees... (listening to skynnerd now..."tuesday's gone"...blowing me AWAY)

thanks, that helped A LOT!

so damned impatient (jeez)... i'm one-handed, you know... (very difficult to hunt-and-peck thisaway)

what? what else do you require to know? SEE THE FILMS! (then you'll know how cool he is)

oh, now you want me to feel sorry for you. no way, not gonna happen. (besides, why didn't you see the doc?)

(I know, I rush the microwave too)

doctors give me hives ("highway star"..."i love it... and i need it")

you need to check out db's site-it's changed overnight.

do you at least have the wrist wrapped?

i'll probably check it out later... tired, though...

i bet. me too, actually. whatcha been up to that's got ya so worn out?

maybe i shouldn't ask, hmmmmmm....

shall i bid you good night?

unspeakable decadence... (yeah, think so... talk to you later?)

ok.......tomorrow, then?

guess so... i'll be in austin much of the day... look for you when i get in...

night *hug*

And back on topic... Tuck & Patti. Can you say, "mello?" I thought you could.

When y'all talked about Linklater, I immediately thought of Art Linkletter! (And to think I'm only 26!)

Thanks, Sam, that's what I thought too. Isn't he the guy who did the show with the kids?

Billy Idol... "white wedding"... (i'm so ashamed)

like BI. (yeah, can hear it now)

Yup, either entitled "Link's Little Ones" or "Kids Say The Darndest Things!"

art linkletter rocks...

What, Billy I(s)Dull? Singers named Billy: Billy Joel immediately comes to mind... I'm gonna start a new topic about this one...

Hey, Billy was good in his day......

yeah, billy joel/ billy idol... both a couple of sensitive, nurturing guys...

Actually did like Rock The Cradle of Love (I know it's sooooooo corny)

i've loved billy idol ever since he made his girl friend take that drug rap for him, a few years back... have to admire a guy willing to, you know, walk the walk...

didn't say I condoned his personal (or public) life.

Billy Idle's a bit too way out for me (this from a fan of Eric Idle! Well not necessarily Eric Idle, but the Python in general.) Billy Joel I am a fan of! He's gone over to classical music; can't wait to hear his "new" format!

Cool.......

hey, i wasn't sniping at billy (life imitating art is way cool, don't you think?)... have to admit i own a couple of billy joel records... listen to them, too, when i'm certain i won't be observed... and i love python, by the way...

help me out with python.........

uhhhhh... whaddaya mean?

like, who they are, what they do (as in music), etc. a complete bio would be nice, but hey, can only ask for so much........

I was actually referring to Monty Python... The only song I remember Monty Python doing was "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" from the crucifixion scene in "The Life Of Brian"

got it..........

sigh... (yes, monty python) and one cannot forget the legendery "lumberjack song"...or "spam"...

Okay.......

The Christmas music we did on http://www.childrenstory.com it's in the background of the "Night Before Christmas"

good night all.

oh, yeah (nearly forgot)...who are tuck and patty?

sublime, for lunch... (god bless bradley nowell... like to pop a cap in sancho, myself)

i mean, he really was asking for it... (should've left bradley's heina alone) new issue of rolling stone has cool articles on both dylan and sublime, by the way (and cover article is the babes of scream2... for those so inclined)

am listening to tiger lilly right now

most assuredly inclined that direction...

listening to bruce... "thunder road"... *sigh*

last night: Blue Note Christmas! tuck & patti: male/female vocal/guitar duo

love teddy... so, do tuck and patty carry the brandon seal of approval?

still listening to the boss... "growin' up"... (hopeless, though) "when they said sit down i stood up!"

yes, he approves. Got him to engage in a Fleetwood Mac revival last night. It was a concession but I did get to spin the WHOLE CD!

and he really didn't get into any of it? (even stevie?) listening to the boss... "Rosalita" ("she's my stone desire")

He really gets into Tusk. I think just because they bring the whole marching band up! He's usually pretty good with it but there are days...

Still Breathing.

The South Park Christmas Special.

natalie..."jealousy"... (apropos)

(but at least not Atropos)

t'would be better t'were 't trope... (have no idea what i just said, but then don't know what you were saying, either) natalie's still grooving..."wonder" (truly love that "ooooooooohhhh thing she does... she oozes femininity, beauty, intelligence... bet she's quite well-adjusted, too... secure in herself... unneedy... can just sense it...)

Bet I can guess what you're wanting for Christmas. Atropos, if'n I'm not too tired, is one of the Fates...

yes... you're right, acc. to my trusty mythology text... "Inflexible", the fate who snipped the thread of life... yeah, i know that broad... (have seen her recently)...

oh, man, she's ooooooohing again... (God help me...)

Oh, hell, for the fun of it, the other two should be Clotho and Lachesis, yes?

on the nose-y, wer... (you are obviously well acquainted with fate...)

now she's doing that who-who-who-whooo thing... ("san andreas fault") *sigh*

Not necessarily, just waiting my turn...

baby, ain't we all... (just remember, when it goes down, i'm with you, brother... and remember what neil young said... "it's better to burn out/ than to fade away"...) (that is what he said, isn't it?)

yes, that would be what he said although he is, unfortuantely embarking on a fade out. Ian Moore. Great wake up and shake it music! Got the house to myself again so the kitties and I got up early to share coffee and some tunes.

sublime for lunch..."april 29, 1992(miami)"... "let it BURN"...

rock on, kitties...

natalie..."san andreas fault" (why do i torture myself?) and she's ooooooooohhhhing... (suspect all hidden things may well abide therein... smoldering)

In deference to you, I will have a glass of wine and listen to Natalie. (okay. the wine is all me but natalie in your honor)

2 parts ripple to 3 parts thunderbird (the recipe, in case you were wondering- one should observe all of the amenities, when possible)

and how do you feel about martini's being shaken in honor of Ms. Natalie and yours taste in music?

well (in lieu of shaking natalie herself), it is the spirit that matters, after all... (should be verrrry wet martinis, though)

so we are toasting Natalie tonight?

sorry! didn't mean to butt in :)

toasting natalie should be a communal experience... how are you?

sick (but you all knew that already) AND how did things go?

i was at another site for awhile... sorry took so long to respond...

think the who...

that's alright. so, you doin' ok?

lost me on #202

you know... "tommy break the mirror" "we won't get fooled again" "i'm free"

my, my, my.........feel like celebratin'?

i'm not covered in pork and beans or anything, though...

darn, my favorite.......

drunken pirate friends rolling in tonight... (from houston) women and children should remain indoors (pets, too... i can't always control them)

woohoo, can I drop in?

what, you have some kind of leering-pirate fantasy?

after yesterday, almost anything goes *wink* (truthfully, do have a vision of a swashbucklin' cap'n at the helm of his ship, forcin' me to walk da plank)

actually, capt. ned swung another direction...

(probably why I'd be walking the plank, don't you think?)

oh (that plank) yeah, guess so

hey! (boy, you're quick tonight, Nick)

gotta be nimble, to stay alive (these days)

yup.... (whacha in the mood for?)

i dunno... heineken, i think...

becks would be good, but you probably don't have it...

*giggle*

fridge is empty----------that darned dog

on second thought, make it guinness... chilled, please

yeah, lemme just run right out and get some...........

oh, i forgot... (louisiana) guess i can choke a blue ribbon down, if that's all you have...

hey, you never know, we got them bayou's and all

yeeeesss? (waiting for further instructions)

you want instructions? (for what?)

sigh... i have to leave now... plan to be thoroughly lubricated an hour from now (shall not betray the sense i'm speaking of, though)

have fun!

would be sooner, of course, but it requires an hour to get anywhere, from here

behave yourself...

got it...........later!

(can't have fun w/out you here anyway!)

"Day afer day, Love turns grey, Like the skin on a dying man And night after night, We pretend it's all right; But I have grown older, And you have grown colder, And nothing is very much fun Anymore..."

The Summer Country The future sound of memetics A musical trip into 6 death cases by Ariel Brosh

never be hearing of that, wer... what/ who is it? Listening to jackson browne...(self-titled, you know..."saturate before using" is not the title, nor is it practical instruction, though i wish someone had told me this when i was sixteen)... "a song for adam"...appropriately introspective, somber accoutrement for the hour of 5am... "adam was a friend of mine though i did not know him well he was alone into his distance he was deep into his well..." (indeed...they/we always are...)

Had my little Natalie fest fer ya nick. Lulled me to sleep and had certainly pleasant dreams. Some Deep Forest this a.m. Actually, I was rummaging through the CDs in the dark and the first CD I started to play was Ministry. Ended quickly. Bad way to wake up unless you're still in detox. Anybody out there enjoy Tanita Tinkarm? Just discovered her last year. Cross between Paula Cole and Toni Childs in the voice quality. Wish I had brought some Coltrane with me this morning...

It's an ambient cd from Israel that Ariel Brosh sent me to listen to and review... The tracks are: An Eagle Dedicated to Uri Levy, my Arabic teacher, who was murdered over a romantic background. To Declare Validity Dedicated to Yair Rosenblum, who died of cancer. The Summer Country Dedicated to Dedi Levy, who jumped off his window. The Zone of Abuse Dasein A Trip to Nowhere Dedicated to Trip Martin, who died of a diabetic seizure. Sunrise Over Ashkelon Beach Dedicated to Yoni Segal, who died in a car accident. Virtual Tears Dedicated to Eran Aderet, who shot himself with an army rifle.

sounds... right up your alley! Excuse me if I make the all too obvious and inappropriate reference to the Butthole Surfers. Let us know what you think!

jazzy jazz

That is something I wish I had been exposed to more. I like some, but I don't seem to appreciate it correctly. Kinda like lobster and crab...

Speaking of crab, I'll take my discussion of the Crab Shack to the restaurant conference.

Ok, I confess, am listening to bryan adams. *sigh* (it's an 80's thing)

sorry for borrowing the *sigh* thingy again, Nick ;)

uh, like, hello?

can you say that with more conviction?

hey you!!!!

and i thought you were listening to bryan adams...

was, but he left..........

uhhhhh... okay. whaddaya want to talk about?

dunno.......should we move to absolute nonsense (as Sam so kindly created for us who tend to ramble)

i dunno... are you listening to music?

no....you? (except for the sound of your voice *grin*)

of course... listening to this really weird 70's compilation thing... something my ex-wife missed when she rifled the CD's... ever hear "dancin' in the moonlight"? ("it's a supernatural delight")...

sure have.......can't believe she left it.........

(accidental, believe me) i'm a sucker for lots of those old hippy-type tunes... dunno why ("it's a fine and natural sight")... i really would've enjoyed the 60's (wore an armpatch moratorium day... was in the fifth grade)...

rebel, huh?

wouldn't say that... a lot happening then (the 60's)... the 70's were such a drag (the stones had it right- "suckin' in the 70's")... listening to danny o'keefe now..."goodtime charlie's got the blues", you know... ("i've got my pills to ease the pain/ can't find a thing to ease the rain")

know that one too. during the 70's, was too busy being an army brat. had no concept of the stuff going on around me. really protected from the stuff, spent most of the time in Germany. (and don't you start that again)

during the 70's, there really wasn't that much going on around you (or around anyone), except for disco, pet rocks, quaaludes, etc... (most of this CD is really crap, though... listening to "dancin' in the moonlight" again)

did the rollerskating thing with the family, and heard of pet rocks learned about disco in the late 70s. Hate when they put cds like that together and you only care of 1 or 2 tunes.

uh, that would be "care FOR 1 or 2 tunes."

(by the way, got that song goin' through my head now)

yeah, i can do without "feelings", and the theme to "the rockford files" (jeez, where did this come from?)... think it's "Natalie Time"...

let 'er rip..........

have a really cool association thing with that song...

what?

that song... once when i was 16, and i was hanging with some stoners... there was this place we used to go, out on the bay, and it was cop-proof... there was a party going on out there for like 2 or 3 years straight... anyway, one night, i was feeling very mellow (very), kicked back in the back seat of somebody's car, and there were like a dozen people (also very mellow), actually dancing (in the moonlight), between all the cars...and, of course, what i remember is that song playing, which seemed very, very cool, at the time (of course, at that moment having 5 fingers on each hand seemed very cool)...

bet you can still feel the seat, the mood of the air, can hear them..........

kind of...really all i remember is that moment (don't even remember who i was with...prob. the snakelady, but that's a story for another time)... the stoners were usually pretty boring (inordinate amounts of time spent arguing about who could roll the best joint)...

i see...remember a lot from similar times.......but mine were rather dull and boring.....

must've been a stoner, then...

kidding... (i think)

read your mail, gotta know what you think (please) before i turn in.........

Hi, kids, nite-nite, Wolfsie!

hey, wer...

reading now, give me a minute... (listening to "cowboy romance"... compelling idea, don't you think? "and if you do..." my god, the sounds she makes...)

my goodness... (a little intensity) should definitely post it... it's quite good

hey wer! Night-- (you're a sweetie, Nick, thanks, would give ya a little kiss, but that would be a bit too forward, eh?)

(just don't bite, okay?0

*giggle* sweet dreams!

-0 +)

g'night...

Am listening to Natalie Merchant-in 10000 Maniacs-Jezebel, Because the Night, Stockton Gala Days, and Tigerlily's Cowboy Romance.............

Now am listening to some of Steve Miller Band (Wide River)......

Only like Wide River, should've got the single. So, now have Savage Garden on. Very good CD, methinks..........

Foreigner now.........

And now? (Didn't want you to keep talking to yourself!)

nick: during the 70's, there really wasn't that much going on around you (or around anyone), except for disco, pet rocks, quaaludes, etc... erm...Bob Marley & The Wailers? Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes? Peter Frampton? Pink Floyd? ABBA? Billy Paul? Bobby Womack? The Chi-Lites? The Stylistics? The Delphonics? Santana? (Santana & Pink Floyd are '60s holdovers, but when you consider that Santana's biggest hit single "Black Magic Woman" and Pink Floyd's albums The Dark Side Of The Moon and The Wall were both done in the '70s...) Elton John? And what exactly is wrong with the theme from "The Rockford Files"?

"Fortunate Son" - CCR! Listening to the album "Chronicle"! Long Live Creedence! BTW, I heard that John C. Fogarty is dead. Is he? When? How?

"Travelin' Band" now. Next on the line-up: "Who'll Stop The Rain".

platform shoes, sam... (that pretty much says it all, seventies-wise)... listening to lou reed..."white light, white heat"...

Some weird stuff on KUT.

"The Star Spangled Banner" as played by the late James Marshall "Jimi" Hendrix.

Van Morrison's Gloria as played by Jimi. Platform shoes? Never seen Bob Marley wear 'em! I taped the following selections onto a 90 mion cassette to give as a Christmas present to an acquaintance. Almost all are '70s songs. Read and give comments: Let's Make A Deal - Gloria Gaynor Just As Long As We Have Love - Dionne Warwicke & The Spinners Then Came You - Dionne Warwicke & The Spinners I'll Be Around - The Spinners I'll Be There - Jackson 5 Be Thankful For What You've Got - William DeVaughn You Are Everything - The Stylistics Because I Love You Girl - The Stylistics The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face - Roberta Flack Killing Me Softly With His Song - Roberta Flack Magnet & Steel - Walter Egan What's Going On - Marvin Gaye I'll Take You There - The Staple Singers Oh Girl - The Chi-Lites They Took The Show on The Road - Fantastic Four If You Don't Know Me By Now - Harold Melvin And The Blue Notes We Never Dance To A Love Song - The Manhattans Wake Up Everybody - Harold Melvin & THe Blue Notes I left out a few, but all those listed are '70's songs. Read the list, and tell me again that the '70s are forgettable.

Now listening to Concrete Jungle from the album "Catch A Fire" by Bob Marley & The Wailers; copyright 1973.

I see a lot of the 70s compilations advertised on tv. Much more so than 60s or 80s, what kind of playlist would you put together for a dance party?

Savage Garden

Beavis & Butthead

velvet underground (Live with Lou Reed)... "heroin"...

mtv or cassette? (rock on, beavis...)

mtv hey, nick, you missed the big wer meets Stacey and Terry fest at Fado's the other night...

cool... hope it went well... switching to beavis, my own self (could use a moron-athon...)

it went amazingly well...

(so well it was scarey, huh?)

you remembered!

hey, that's great... (and relatively rare, experience-wise... remember what paul simon said, about reality rarely matching one's "sweet imagination"... usually true)

what? you think I'd dismiss our conversation?

Nick, he is one of the lucky ones, huh?

nope and who, Paul Simon?

indeed...

not much imagination involved, nick, we're the same in both worlds, it's just quicker and more tactile in reality...

i dunno... reality is usually over-rated, i think (though it is no suprise that stacey would be an exception...)

know something you're not telling?

uhhhh, not likely... feeling jaded, these days...

wer, Nick never tells. (why you so glum, Nick?)

never tells what? (not really glum... jaded, there's a difference... another one's bitten the dust, however...)

darn, i was going to ask him for your description...

tell me........

wer, good luck getting that out of him (a *wink* to Nick)

huh?

boy, you are just not with it tonight, sweetie

huh?

why ya jaded (and FYI, I do know the difference)

reruns (and not referring to "beavis"- like those reruns...)

no, i understand.....who bit the dust?

(and please don't say you were listening to Queen) (well, hope no one really bit the dust, didn't mean it like that)

just another rerun...

what has set it off?

*hug*

ennui...

huh?

Parler!

g'night you two (still listening to Beavis & Butthead, Sam)

huh?

g'night, wer

'night wer, sweet dreams

nick?

yup...

i waited that whole time for you to say "yup?" (what's going on? post me)

want i should leave you alone?

there's nothing going on (whaddaya think?) my mail has like 400 letters in the in-box (yeah, i'm lazy)... taking several minutes to load, these days, which is one reason i've been (slightly) derelict in some of my mail answering...

sheesh, why do you think that?

(bet 300 are mine--heehee, quite the mail stocker, huh? *wink*) (oh, about stuff going on--i don't know what to think, that's why I asked *smile*)

answer to 344, dunno, feel like i'm bugging ya *lookin' at my feet*

just same old stuff.. thus, ennui... had a "friend" tell me the other day i have "serious issues" to "work out with women"...

and is your "friend" some type of expert?

aren't all women experts? (just ask 'em)

gimme a break. probably meant that you're not seeing things her way, therefore the fault lies with you.

no- i dunno, maybe- no... that's not what she meant... (women can be sneaky, though, so one can never be too sure)... that really bothered me... she was someone i respected, though our relationship was obviously disintegrating when she said it...

hmmmm....did you ask her? (what she meant?)

of course...

and? (sweetie, gonna have to quit soon)

yeah, me too... was gonna re-post some stuff at the planet ("vae victus" and "le belle inconnu..." each contain fatal errors), but i might be too tired...

when do ya wanna meet again?

supposed to go out tomorrow night... if i'm feeling too crummy i might not, though... can't tell, at this point... (will probably at least be home tomorrow at some point) look ferya?

yeah. night sweetie *sleepy smile*

g'night...

I just got told something similar, too, nick... (post 347)

not you, too!

"Mr. Tambourine Man" faded out, now "Subterranean Homesick Blues"

Qkumba Zoo now

maybe it's a conspiracy, wer... (psychic terrorism, or something) you out there, ms. beau? think i'm gonna post that thing i wrote last night (it was sort of catharctic, though the whole thing was so trivial, not sure how that is... maybe because of earlier attempts at "...terrorism")... listening to van morrison (Moon Dance)... "and it stoned me"...

am here (for a bit)

okay...

you mean the one there this morning or another?

uhhh, this morning... changed my mind, though... afraid it'll be read by the wrong person, and that would bring me untold grief...

send it to me anyway (unless I'm the one to avoid)

(and this morning....believe it was c'est la vie...)

you already read it (i posted it at the planet..."c'est la vie")... of course you're not the one... the thing is, it was written about 2 different people (kind of a composite), both of whom i wished to vent at... i could care less what one of them thinks (though i doubt she reads at that level, anyway)... the other, though, i care about (wouldn't want to hurt), and she reads the poetry here sometimes (that's how we met, in fact)... i know if she read it she would assume the entire thing was written about her (in some regards, women are remarkably similar, stubborness chief among them)...

you know, i thought it was about the person with whom you had "issues"

(oh how stupid of me to say what I did--am not so vain as to think everybody sits around and thinks about me. sorry for that bit of foolishness)

(and am surprised you didn't "get" fool)

it WAS half about the "issues" girl (she's the second one); it was mainly about someone else, though... what's funny is, i wasn't nearly as angry with the one it was really about as i was with the one it was only tangentially about... yet the anger from the one affected my attitude towards the other... so the issues involved were real, but the feelings emanating from them were a little misleading (though i felt much better after i wrote it)... does that make any sense at all? listening to "caravan" (still van morrison)...

didn't "get" fool? (what does this mean?)

yes, that does make sense. (God, now you've got me all curious, but will not venture into that realm-NOMB)

HELLO!?!?!

yes?

c'mon, "Fool" at the planet. to me, that piece was so to the point, was afraid to post it

ohhhhhhhhhhh..... so i was right...

dunno, were you

apparently so (don't be a knucklehead)

ok, my turn....huh?

only room fer one of us (knuckleheads) in this here topic, anyhow...

(tread lightly, please)

if "fool" meant what i thought it meant (and think it meant), you're thinking like a knucklehead (because you're not anybody's, and especially not anybody's fool, no matter what connie francis said...)

am i in trouble?

just to make sure we're together on this- I think you said what you thought you said and still think you thought. Don't mean to be a dunce, but you're gonna have to just tell me what you think it's about so I don't say.........so I don't embarrass the hell out of myself.

(yup, i'm in trouble)

why would you be in trouble? wouldn't it be my own trouble?

it was beautifully written... just don't happen to believe it applies to you...

in what way, because I think it does, very much so........

no, not if you actually believe that...

have no reason to believe otherwise...........

it is a mistake to hinge your self-esteem on the feelings of another person, no matter who it is... you've gotta care about yourself FOR yourself... why would any intelligent, caring, poetic woman believe herself to be a fool? it defies logic, to me...

(now i'm in trouble)

why do you say that?

you are chiding me...... (recognize that one is not foolish for feelings, but foolish to pursue something not to be pursued)

so you percieve yourself in the latter category?

kindof, not saying that the thing pursued is foolish.

i think everybody more or less does the best they can (except for maybe cher... no excuse for her, you know)... calling one's self (or anyone) a fool can only be hurtful, don't you think?

i agree. (can't help but feel you're missing a part of the whole meaning) (will you be around later this evening?)

yeah, i guess so... really don't feel like going anywhere... seeya later?

yes, definately...when?

i dunno... you tell me?

wouldn't it be cool to get this topic to 500 before wer comes on? (take THAT, colin firth... we'd have to be champeens, with 500 responses...)

God, how do you FIND so much garbage to chat?

BTW, listening to Gimme No Crack by Shinehead

Ok, am waiting to push this thing over 500, where you at, Nick?

well, looks like I'm gonna have to attempt it by myself. hmmmmm.....

Sorry Sam....

have a mission......

to accomplish.........

you still there?

oh, thank God. Thought I was gonna really have to do this alone...

sorry... ended up going out for awhile...

that did cross my mind, rather briefly. (no issues this time, I hope)

not in the context you mean...

oh no......what happened this time?

nothing of consequence...

good. (wanna pick up where we left off?)

and where was that?

(listening to natalie, by the way... "i may know the word"..

if you don't know, i'm not gonna tell you (it was pretty, uh, nerve racking)

If ya'll still here, you didn't make it... can I get in on this whole I wanna be the fool thing? (and would love to read the can't post thing, nick, unless it refers to the only personette here that I've met...)

hi wer, gave it my best effort....... (c'mon, there's not gonna be a fight over this one gal is there?)

*lol* no, wer... no one you know (least i don't think so)... go to the planet, at: www.angelfire.com/la/diogenesbob/index.html and you can read it there... (and please, by all means, give us a hand, wer...500 is a noble goal...)

sigh (always get it wrong) http//www.angelfire.com/la/diogenesbob/index.html

forgot the little : after http.....*smile*

anybody laughs, they're dead... http://www.angelfire.com/la/diogenesbob/index.html (a matter of principle now, you know)

http://www.angelfire.com/la/diogenesbob/index.html maybe?

hey, how'd you do that? (still haven't figured it out *laugh* and you thought you were computer illiterate, country boy)

(whew) as you were saying?

as who was saying?

said i was a hillbilly (not a country boy)... let's be accurate in our phraseology...

sorry, that swamp gas

went and read it, but not the six replies... can't decide if I should put on a coat or ask how to order my own block (o' ice that is)

yeah, but wasn't that line good?

(Nick, think you may have accomplished that thing you were trying to avoid)

a little chilly, yes...

my turn: huh?

(what have i accomplished that i was trying to avoid?)

duh!

the verse (was rather chilly)

well, you two. i'm outta here *yawn*. have fun! nighty-night

my huh was for you accomplishing what you wanted to avoid, not the chilly, got that, not that dense... thought it had something to do with me reading it...

sheesh! duh, back... (answer my question)

me?

but you know how we get in trouble when our chaperone isn't here... g'night, Wolfsie...

wer, what just happened? i am totally mystified...

near as I can figure, Wolf types too damn fast, I type too damn slow, and you read everything sequentially...

tell me...(i AM that dense)... what'd i do now?

(haven't logged out yet) *giggle*

lol (very good, wer...)

Who are you talking to Nick?

ms. beau, you're a sneak...

apparently, me, too... who ya talking to now?

please inform me what i was trying to avoid (that's a start)

for starters, you were wondering if'n you oughta post a certain piece right here, you then proceeded to change your mind due to feelings of another, then you posted the website. DUH!

is that all? she'll never read it here... she only checks out the places where she knows that i post... never mentioned the planet...

silly me...... 'night

hurry up and get to 500 gotta go for a sec and install a game on the inlaws computer

trying...

listening to jackson browne, by the way... (The Pretender..."here come those tears again")

so, nick, when I give you your spear, is we gonna kills da womens first?

now there's an idea...

for Sam, I'm currently listening to the wife wrap Christmas ornaments... Nick, why was you saying I'm lucky cause Stacey and I got along in person?

like to spare a couple, though (for sentimental reasons, you know)

can think (can't stop thinking!) about a few myself... shouldn't we just go ahead and admit defeat?

because it often doesn't work out that way (but maybe that's my particular affliction... tend to lose interest quickly)

on to my buts... but what difference does it make, in my case she lives a long way off, wouldn't it have been better to have not gone well?

"...He knew his life was little, and would be extinguished, and that only the darkness was immense, and everlasting. And he knew that he would die with defiance on his lips, and that the shout of his denial would ring out with the last pulsing of his heart, into the maw of all-engulfing night..." (Thomas Wolfe) never say die...

now, I'll be able to "believe" things that aren't true and cause myself a whole sh**load of trouble... (I make it sound like I haven't started...)

easy for you to say... I could have spent days talking to her. guess her next scheduled visit to Austin? 2 years.

you raise an interesting point... but no, i don't think so... i think if that had been the case, you'd just feel like crap (and what's the good of that?)

why do you think I don't? don't you realize your self destructive tendencies and the ever philosophical self fulfilling prophecies?

don't remember who wrote it, but i think it applies: "better an ignis fatuus/ than no illume at all" re: self-destr. tend., etc..., not sure i follow you...

could be, you seem more stable than I am... I "know" at certain times what actions to avoid or how things are going to come out. I can never figure out however, if by "knowing" am I causing said events to transpire.

no doubt... i know i do that... in fact, i had a relationship once that had some similarities... the girl was in college, and we communicated, for several years mostly by mail... when she graduated, and moved back to town, it became pretty serious... but disappointment (boredom, whatever) set in after a bit, and i screwed it up, just as any other... i guess, the thing is, no one can "fix" you... you gotta fix yourself...

next but, but what if I'm wrong sometime, should I attempt to fix something that isn't broken yet, or will I break it no matter what I do because of the original "knowledge"?

i think you've gotta find the reason you keep assuming everything's "broken", and fix that... because, otherwise, yeah, i think the chances are good ("original knowledge", considered) that you'd find a way to break it, no matter what (don't you?)...

the broken assumption comes usually from misinterpreting the other person's objectives, or thinking theirs are similar to mine, or at least based on the same reasoning. like the whole better to have loved and lost crap, not my world view. I can't miss what I never had...

don't know about that... i have "mystical" ideas, regarding love... and don't view this puny existence with a lot of reverence (and what of it there is, IS only because of love)... both intellectual and emotional under- standing are problematic, of course... depending upon what your standard is, you could be setting yourself up for disappointment... the most desired communion (to me) is a deeper one, what is commonly referred to as "spiritual", i suppose, but may be more appropriately referred to as visceral (beyond our kens)...

that is pretty much how I feel also, but it seems that when I do the other doesn't. not actually true, when I do the other doesn't allow themself to because it is "inappropriate" for where they are in their life. women I know are much more cerebral in this aspect than I am, I follow my "feelings" and try to ignore my head...they tend to only pay attention to the practical.

yeah, but they sure wanta talk about it, don't they? i have encountered a little of that, but i am luckily (or unluckily, depending on how one looks at it) pretty persuasive... and that's really the thing... i've found they (that particular type) nearly always WANT to be talked into it... just have to find the words for 'em to hang it on (so to speak)...

I don't like being the "Gentle Persuader" (great song, though) I want everything to be nice and even and fair...good thing Wolf and/or Stacey isn't on right, now, either...that capital WANT thing could get us both flayed (not that that couldn't be fun with Stacey, but...)

yeah, but they sure wanta talk about it, don't they? i have encountered a little of that, but i am luckily (or unluckily, depending on how one looks at it) pretty persuasive... and that's really the thing... i've found they (that particular type) nearly always WANT to be talked into it... just have to find the words for 'em to hang it on (so to speak)...

getting tired, Nick?

no, i'll probably write most of the night... what about you?

(listening to that screwy 70's tape, by the way...)

don't know, but only nine more posts to go. Been to the main page lately? Terry's got a link to this topic there. Think we should tell 'im to change it?

Space Ghost's Musical Barbecue

no, i never enter through the main page... you mean there's a link to "what are you listening to now"?... my god... (the sound you just heard was my jaw hitting the floor... that could definitely be a problem... how many links are there?)

at least one to every conference, and a BIG HUGE one to this topic. go check it out http://www.spring.com

omigod... my life just flashed before my eyes...

if she reads that thing, i swear i will never answer my phone/door/ computer again...

time to see if Terry'll make ya a host in this conference so you can retire this topic? besides, you've got less to fear than I do if my wife ever logs in....

(is your wife violent?) she would never wander from poetry, unless perhaps by invitation of a screen-wide link... (maybe i can get db to delete the poem, at the planet...)

if you mean like in destroy the computer, kick me out of the house, and never let me see my little girl again, I'd have to say yes...

are you serious? wer, that's a problem (a scary one)... and i've been there, done that (and it's WORSE than you imagine it)...

nick, I've gotten caught before, by this one...

still listening to that funky 70's thing... danny o'keefe ("good-time charlie's (still) got the blues)... pertinent lyric: "you know my heart keeps tellin' me you're not a kid at 33 you play around you lose your wife you play too long, you lose your life..." (ouch!)

Okay, I entered a new topic, you get Terry to change the link... (it won't be worse than I think...)

so you're planning on getting caught?

nope, nothing but words to get burnt on this time, but I'm not hiding anything either. all my passwords are either known, or are on permo-enter, she just hasn't checked up on me yet...

and what does this tell you? look, i was unfaithful many, many times when i was married... but i was never even nearly caught (and, God, divorce is tough enough as it is)... are you sure you don't want to get caught (subconciously, or whatever)...

don't honestly know, pretty sure after last time I don't want to get busted again... in fact haven't done anything again... I guess honestly it would be a way out that she "initiated"...

gotta take a nap, Nick, I have to be at work in four hours, and I work two shifts today followed by an open to close Monday and Tuesday... think we can get this topic retired?

but it's not a good one... too many bad, bad scenarios attached to that... if you're gonna do it, better to just stand up, and do it cleanly, and it's especially important to do it during a time when you're unencumbered by other attachments... hafta warn you, though, it's a hard road, when kids are involved... can't honestly say which guilt is worse (infidelity or hurting your kids, by divorcing their mother)... it's sort of a lose/lose proposition...

i dunno... changing the link serves my needs, just fine... aren't we champeens now? (510 responses)

To quote Sam the American Eagle from The Muppet Show: "You are all WEIRDOS!"

My apologies to everyone involved (tried to warn ya Wolf what would happen without our chaperone) I've got this it's a new year and where am I thing going on, Nick's a great cathartic, and this is only one of several things my head is working on right now. But, this place is cheaper than drugs or therapy...

and did I mention my mom's triple bypass for this coming Friday?

You guys surpassed the goal! Good Job-and am now caught up, and you thought no one was listening. Think the stuff posted here is supposed to be read by those folks we're avoiding, huh? Like part of you wants to get caught, wer! And Nick, FYI, I can talk myself into/out of nearly anything, don't need any help. (is this some sort of challenge you give yourself, how many of us you can talk into stuff?) Sorry Sam......

Nick, Terry already adjusted the link on the main page (I asked him to this morning...) Wolf, see the new and improved topic 38

sigh... that's not what i meant... not all women are the same (any more than all men)... we were discussing a certain "type", and made no value judgements regarding that "type", nor did we make any assumptions (god help us) regarding the applicability of applying that type to any particular person (especially not any particular person here)... (clear enough?)

you're a champ, wer (and thanks terry!)

it just remains to be seen, champion what... top o' the afternoon to ya, Wolf!

you too! (sorry Nick, once again, my womanly instinct got me in trouble). see ya at the other topic *wink*

what other topic? h'aint we champeens now? h'aint we goin' fer a thousand?

you know Nick, the one especially created out of necessity (*peck* on the cheek for jumpin' on your case)

you mean the new one (with front page link)? you'll forgive me for avoiding that one, lest i have something on-topic to convey... (and i told ya before- no biting)

Ok, I get it. We can still talk here (sorry, took me a while)

(shoot, not even a li'l growl? no licking either? *wink*)

so, whatterya up to? (besides jumping to conclusions?)

nada, debating whether or not to go out somewhere. you? (yeah, am good at that, tis why you gots to talk plainly)

watching, alternately, the packers, and "buffy the vampire slayer"...

yer kiddin' right? (that must be a guy thing, lemme guess, you gotta see what's on every channel during a commercial too, huh?)

whattaya mean? (the packers game is kinda boring... and i'm a big buffy fan, though i prefer the tv buffy...)

dunno a thing about buffy, so no comment....... (am listening to byran adams again -so far so good)

well, buffy rules... never been too awfully partial to blondes, but kristy swanson's okay...

wow (about blondes). Think there's not too many of yous out there what likes us darker headed ladies.

that's not true (merely conditioning speaking)... most of my friends actually don't care all that much (actually, in their case, though, not due to particular largeness of spirit... more like frenzied desperation)... i've only had a couple of blonde girlfriends... do have one friend who's sort of nutso on the subject, though (but he swears it isn't true)...

there's too many gals running around trying to be what they think you fellas want. would be much better if we could just say, here it is, take it or leave it, you know? dunno if I have a preference (and not due to desperation). just gotta look in the eyes first, then look at everything else. (and hands-and you know what I mean there)

ah, yes... the infamous "nasty hands" (aka, "mark of the beast", "digitalus profanus", etc...) i do have a preference (weaver, of course), but work mightily to overcome it... in the aftermath of nearly every relationship i've had, though, i can see the true motivation involved (her hair, eyes, mouth, smell, eyebrows (natalie, you know)... it is diseased, but it works (after it's fashion...)

do you search for pieces of weaver? i only know of three men who paid attention to me in detail. One, an ex fiance, second, a man who was smitten, and then a friend. Notice that they are in the past tense.

you never know what men are paying attention to... men aren't verbally oriented, by and large... they usually don't express well, but that doesn't mean they don't feel or perceive (they do)... and that's not necessarily a bad thing (just the way it is... and does give something of an advantage to those who can "express", even if it's mostly b.s.)... and yeah, of course i do... if i see someone possessing a characteristic reminiscent of her, i'm hooked (at least for a little while)... that's only human, isn't it?

they weren't necessarily verbally expressive, but in their presence, I could feel it, you know what I mean? And it wasn't the same as someone checkin' you out. yes, I suppose it's only human, you hope for it, you think, omigod, could it be her? and then you're lost in it for awhile. unfortunately, it's not too good for the recipient and ultimately not good for you either. From my perspective, I'd hate to be the object of someone's desire because I remind them of someone else. I would wish to be desired for me. For something about me that would hold their attention. maybe i'm just stuck in fairy tale land. Where's that damn fairygodmother anyway? (can't see myself as the heroine in one of those things anyway, i'd be a side character) *knowing smile*

didn't say it was healthy, said it was human (rather be human any day, it's less work)... and i think being the "heroine" begins with seeing yourself as such... (should not be a "side character" in one's own life...)

being human is much better than pretending to be someone else. about being the "heroine"-didn't mean about my own life. meant that, god this is hard for me......ok, I know that when I walk in a room no one stops anything to look, and when they do, it's usually because I've just done something stupid. And I'm not saying that I want to be the star, either......Nick, this is way too hard for me to express....what I mean is, that when it comes to attraction, I'm low on the menu. there........

first, most women think that...our society, ostensibly woman-glorifying, is in reality, i think, woman-abasing, and conditions you to think that you don't measure up to the "goddess" standard it invented (mostly to sell deoderant or something)... and second, that standard is a lot of crap... do you honestly value yourself based on whether or not a room stops when you enter it? should anyone? and look at the terminology you use- "low on the menu"... whose menu? some guy, who is most certainly of no more human value than you (and probably appreciably less)? and do you consider yourself to be some item, some commodity, to be "served up"? i have no patience with that kind of thinking (sorry)...

no, but it was the only way I could find the words to express it. sorry.........

sheesh (sorry?) why are you apologizing to me? you're the one you're so rough on...

you're right....when I look at myself, I see somebody different than what I think other people see, am not always pounding myself, most of the time feel pretty confident about myself (warts and all). I don't know why I went there.

trying to hit 600 without me? wish I wasn't at work so I could get in on this one...

i think flaws are what define real beauty, anyway... weaver had a little gap between her front teeth (and it drove me absolutely out of my mind)...

not missing much, wer.

y'all busy, wer?

that's absolutely true, Nick. to me, real beauty is the whole, inside, outside, mannerisms, quirks, everything.......

nick, nope... Amen, sister on 550

give you a prime example (and nearly the beginning of a barroom brawl a few months ago)... "the truth about cats and dogs"... cannot- CANNOT- understand how a guy could go for uma over janine... i think janine garafolo is very VERY...

then why do we still give ourselves such a hard time? i mean, i know what beauty is, but still give in to those moments of self-loathing......

if yer downtown, wer, i guess sundays would normally be pretty slow (correct?)...

nick, i agree with that completely. (can you guess who i identified the most with?) besides, uma was a ditz in that one

oh, and the guy....wow. his eyes, his voice...........

and that line "you're dumb and beautiful, and you're smart and.........."

i've always assumed it was because you were conditioned that way (from childhood... parents, schools, social org.s, and media, of course, in every form...)

Nick, that's true, I mean, look at the barbies.....and I'm trying to bring up my children with positive self-images. it doesn't help when everybody tells them (esp. her) how absolutely gorgeous they are. don't assume that I'm wallowing in self-pity all the time, not so. only times I get hard about my looks is when out shopping for clothes. but hey, I can fix my flaws and I don't mean by the knife......

opposite example... pamela anderson... i don't get it... she's like a blonde stump with breasts...

don't think that I would want to change anything I was born with...no, I wouldn't. because this is just packaging, and if a person can't take the time to get over the wrapping material and find out what's inside, forget them, don't need 'em...

thank you, Nick....and she knows it too......wonder who's idea it is for her to show off as much as she does.........

what do you mean "get over" the wrapping material? that's what i mean- who decides this? why do you cede them the privelege of deciding?

privilege, i mean...

that's what I'm saying. if someone judges just by what the wrapper looks like, and you'll know this, then forget them. am not saying i put myself out for them to decide anything. i decide, in the end.

gotta go.........

allright then... (hafta go, unfotunately)...

wow, that was weird... seeya later...

http://www.mediadesign.net/live.ram playing Elvis Jailhouse Rock. It's the San Marcos pirate radio station.

Keep It Coming Love - K.C. & The Sunshine Band Finally the conversation gets less weird & more interesting! This reminds me of Freud's question: "What does woman want?" There is a universal stereotype of what men find attractive in women (Western men, at least) but if there is a similar stereotype in the reverse, I don't know what it is (except that it ain't me!)

sam, you're gonna get us all in trouble bringing freud into the "what do women want" question... (his opinions on this matter are not entirely 90's-friendly...)

A Letter to Australia, a folk song playing on KIND, San Marcos. KIND is the official spring radio station on the net.

we don't want to hear anything by Freud, unless he slips *grin*

A lady showed up at Leighton's party in a slip. In big red letters it was marked "Freud". She made a mean marguerita and smoked a cigar.

Oh, I love it!! Wish I had enough to nerve to do that, maybe Halloween!

ok guys, can ya make it to 600? sorry, but you'll have to do it without me *frown*.....am beat (you know 1st day back at work and class, whew!) (BTW, am gonna work out so I can get into that freudian slip *wink*)

believe me, ms. beau... you don't wanna smoke that cigar (then again...)

Leighton's party was on Halloween. Maybe I'll play the Leighton's Halloween party tape tonight on the main page slide show.

you get to where you want, Wolf, and I'll pay for the slip... (I just need to know what kind of return I'm gonna get on my investment...) (now, I need a cigarette!!!!!)

where's that cigar and what brand, Nick?

Are You Experienced?

(by the Jimi Hendrix Experience, of course...)

OK wer, I went to the gym and did stairs for 30 mins. (whew)

So are we gonna break 600 tonight? (or is everybody as tired as me?) (oh, and wer, can ya find a slip kinda ladylike? I mean, don't wanna flaunt, halfta have a bit of mystery *heehee*)

you got it, those are the best kind *sigh* what color(s) you prefer? (and, at some point, you're gonna hafta trust me with your size and/or measurements...)

can't have that til I'm where I want to be. Any warm colors will do........*grin*

fair enough, I have something in mind now if I can just find it when the time is right...

Rainy Day Women # 12 & 35 by Bob Dylan

10,000 Maniacs (MTV Unplugged) (wer, got my Vicky's secret catalog today, *heehee*. should I go for it, Nick?-the slip, I mean *wink*)

C'mon, only got 11 more to go. (Where is everybody?) Maybe y'all can enlighten me...who is Hugh Jackman, apparantly some Australian god (according to the firthers)

10 more to go........ (guess if ya want somethin' done, gotta DITY) Why do famous people die in threes?

Versace, Diana, M. Theresa

The guy from SNL, Kennedy, Bono (i'll get his name in a sec)

man, his name is on the tip of my tongue. Hope it doesn't wake me up at 3 in the morning.

Chris Farley *whew*, knew it started with an F.....

Wasn't it Raul Julia, John Candy, and ???

(hate talking to myself *frown*) wait, we might be in for more bad news-cuz John Denver went too.....

Denver, Farley, Kennedy Bono, ?, ?

we don't count celebrities in their old age, do we? just the untimely, right?

600!!! *bowing* Thank you, thank you......

looks like my work here is done *straightens clothes, hair* 'night *wink*

I am forever your humble servant...

Nobody Home - Pink Floyd (appropriately enough!) It's a song from The Wall.

wow. I've been spammed. sorta. Far too many posts in the past two weeks for me to read... I wish I weren't so sure it was fascinating reading laced with all sorts of lude/crudeness!!!

actually, summa dis wuz bout you...

listening to the sounds of silence in my empty classroom. So soothing.

am listening to the stress flow out of one of my dearest friends... It eases my heart.

There are mountains hidden in treasures. There are mountains hidden in swamps. There are mountains hidden in the sky. There are mountains hidden in mountains. There are mountains hidden in hiddenness. This is complete understanding. An ancient buddha said, "Mountains are mountains, waters are waters." These words do not mean mountains are mountains; they mean mountains are mountains. Therefore investigate mountains thoroughly. When you investigate mountains thoroughly, this is the work of mountains. Such mountains and waters of themselves become wise persons and sages.

by Dogen

Al the stuff I skipped? Some of it was about moi? What were the good parts, I only want the good parts!

From my own personal research, alls you got is good parts...

my, my, my. You sure know how to brighten a girl's afternoon!

and you, and old man's evening...

last night... Iggy Pop Natalie (for peace of mind as she does not do the same things to me as she does to nick!) Lucinda Williams

(iggy rocks) natalie's therapeutic powers are profound, and diverse (serving all humankind)...

hey sweetie!

uh, hey yerself... (?)

well? are you there"

yes, am here. just didn't think that warranted a response *giggle*

hey, i was quoting great literature... (haven't you read "to kill a mockingbird?)

yes, but it was way long ago

when jem and scout first meant dill... he was staring at them, from inside a bush, or something... (jem was in the tree, refusing to come down because atticus wouldn't play football for the methodists... scout was in the tire-swing)... anyway, dill said, "hey!"... and jem answered back, "hey yerself"... (hey, i know my redneck literature... got my bonafides, and all)

you still remember that so vividly? geez, and I thought remember the names was pretty good. *wink*

heh heh heh, that would be "rememberING" *blush*

my god! did you know there's like a CRISIS IN THE WHITE HOUSE? (thank god for ted koppel... i may have never known...)

LOL! Yes, I knew this.

BTW, got a chat room now (on my page). let me know if you wanta use it, k?

all in all, i think ted koppel's a worse media whore than many (and probably the most insidious, because of that carefully cultivated, B.S., fair-minded image he trades on...)

yeah, but what's up with the hair?

aaaaarrrrggggghhhh! you should've heard that self-serving crap koppel was selling tonight... going on and on about how necessary it is for him to be reporting rumors and half-truths because if he didn't journalism would somehow disintegrate or some- thing and even though it's a little "untidy" (his sanctimonious choice of words), it's really okay, when you think about it, because he's such a swell guy, and we can trust him and all...

fake hair and all.

yeah, well whaddaya expect? (he has dinner with henry kissinger, for god's sake... his hair is among his most genuine aspects...0

lol!

(where have you gone, walter cronkite?)

our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you, woo woo woo...

(that may've been chet huntley) listening to dire straits...(Dire Straits)..."sultans of swing" ("the don't give a damn/ 'bout any trumpet playing band...")

Listening to 20/20 for the second half... the wife was friends with one of the victims...

which victims?

of the "I-45 killer" between Houston and Galveston

i haven't heard anything about that (shows how out of touch i am... hell, i'm from there- just up I-45 from galveston- texas city (4A state champs, thank you very much)... where's your wife from?) anyway, what's the deal with this thing?

incidentally, texas city IS the hub of the gulf coast (just thought i'd mention that)...

listening to Sarah McLachlan....very haunting, sensual

listening to natalie (of course)...

does she have anything else out (aside from TigerLily?)

(c'est tres suffisant)

she's from Dickinson, how old are you? (piqued her curiosity, this could get weird...) who didja use to hang out with? Anyway, 44 girls dead and found or still missing... same general description, lots of sets of similarities...

wow! i have lots of friends there...and ran the sonic there for awhile when i was 18 or 19 (that was back when roger really ran "rogers"... boy was that old bastard tough competition... i had a little employee war going with him)... i'm 37, so i imagine i'm quite a bit older than she is... did she know many TC people? cruise palmer on fri./sat. nights? go to the blue hole, or the green hole? (adrian daniels? brian daniels? jeanie smith? jimmy smith? these are dickinson people, incidentally, not TC...)

you're the right age for her boyfriends back then... She knew a Hispanic guy named Rick who managed the Sonic, and then Hyperspace...doesn't recognize the names, but hung out at all the holes...Tommy Schofield, Richard Fagin, Bubba Krause, Myron ?????, Holly Breward and family... well?????

i knew rick... wish i could remember his last name... haven't seen him for 15 years... his brother owned the sonic in friendswood... other names don't ring a bell (but if they're from dickinson, and my age, i probably wouldn't know them, except casually, from a party or a fight or both... the ones i mentioned were a few years younger, and they were former employees of mine... does she know anyone from texas city, or la marque, or santa fe? most of the people i remember from dickinson i remember by first name only... like this geeky kid named randall that worked for me, and then worked the front counter for roger for awhile... oh, yeah, what about mike bowen? he was a friend of mine, and he lived in dickinson till he was a junior... his dad was a fireman, and he had a younger sister, but i can't remember her name... he played football, too... by hanging out at the holes, i take it you mean the blue hole and/or the green hole... if she hung out there, we had to know some of the same people, though i stopped hanging there when i was 18... some of my retrograde friends, though, would still be lurking around out there (bothering teen-age girls) if the place wasn't chained off, so maybe she knows some of them... oh what about the snake lady? cathy cee? she lived out there, on the bayou (with her big fat bandito boyfriend bubba, who i never saw, but was certain would kill me one day)... she drove a puke-green polaris or something, and she worked at zackies, on texas avenue (in t.c.), across from carbide... hmmm. i'll try and remember more... but give me some t.c. names, and i'll probably know 'em... might also ask her if she remembers the big t.c./dickinson rumble, at robinson stadium parking lot, in '77... half the guys i knew got busted that night (though few of the dickinson guys did, 'cause most of 'em cheesed and ran before the cops arrived)...

The names I posted were from Texas City... Like you, the rest she only remembers first names of...Like Myron, but she does rember that his dad owned a dump truck company... I'll print her this list for perusal at some point today, she used to hang out at the TC dykes, also...

Hi wer!

Freaky stuff... small world. Listening to Lyle Lovett -- the I Love Everybody album. Last night (after a bout o drinking with friends) I calmed down to Clanned (pastpresent), Tanita Tikaram (lovers in the city) and Natalie. Just about time to pop in Jimmy Buffett and pretend there's not 4 fresh inches of snow on the ground!

the blue hole/green hole were adjuncts to the dike (skyline drive)... i knew a little skinny kid named myron that was a few years younger than me... don't know what his dad did, but he lived on 22nd or 23rd in mainland park, and his grandfather was mayor once... remember he had a brother that looked almost exactly like him (they even dressed the same, it was kind of creepy), and they had small, skinny eyes... oh, yeah, his brother's name was norman... okay, a few TC names... david connor, gary bage, mike titus, tommy perthius, phillip alexander, bucky castano, mike holdcraft, john whitener, danny dunbier, joe sandoval, ricky kelly, dory kelly, norris follett, jeff ryman, mark kimbrough, jim boswell, james ("fish") gilliam, steve harvey, robert atkinson, robert macneil, mickey gill, mike burke (the twerp, he still owes me money), p.j. graham, rueben guzman, dale henny, david rojas (he owes me money, too)... also, tammy waldrop, sandy tompkins, martha (mouse) miles, jackie carson, teri weaver, alberta sandoval, rhonda jackson, shelly hedgepeth, theresa smith, elizabeth lavalle, jennifer lavalle... and oh, yeah, my best friend, paul lavalle (she might at least know who he is, 'cause his dad was county judge for awhile...)... yeah, jimmy buffet is one of the best rapid-mood-enhancers i know of... think i might try that myself ("banana republic")... (but is 4 inches of snow really all that bad? must be 80 degrees here... you must really be feeling kinda homesick...:)

not homesick anymore! a day hiking through the mtns fixes me everytime. Back home being mellow to CSN&Y Brandon returns tonight, meaning I should get off my arse and clean some of this mess up! Actually, the house is always much cleaner when he's gone but I like to really get it into shape during an opportunity like this. *grin* Good housecleaning music... Harry Chapin John Denver Steppenwolf

(i miss harry chapin)

General area-- Bubba and Sissy the ugly twins (last name maybe Loller or Lolly?) Bubba Rocco, John Hudson, Wayne Widenhouse, Deena Sheffield and brothers (dad owned a butcher shop in La Marque), Gene Stewart (Toothless Wonder), Gordon Sollers, George Pappas, "Poochie" the dealer, the Coffman brothers (one of which had a headshop in a fleamarket in Houston)... Did you ever hang out at the Dickinson or San Leon sand pits? She did recognize some people in your list before last... hi, Wolf... hi, Stacey, sorry I missed you in philosophy, I was wasting time waiting to order produce at work, and didn't look to see who was on...

no problem... actually it's nice you weren't facing some internal catastrophe! *smile*

knew a george ballas (another greek name, right?)... and the only kaufman i knew was a big dumb redneck guy... never hung out at any sand pits (used to frequent a biker bar in san leon, though... on 519, east of hwy.146... think it was called "the hideaway"... also, the red barn, just up the road... and gilleys, of course, before the stupid movie ruined the place)...

alright... who's making the Who's Who from Dickenson conference? Listening to Cat Stevens after a bout with Trout Fishing In America.

(brandon must be sleeping) cat is an excellent idea... think i'll do the same... and break the seal on the bottle of jameson's i bought the other day...

internal catastrophes abound, Stacey, just trying to keep them there...

Eine Kleine Nachtmusik - written by Wolfgang A. Mozart. I have no idea which orchestra is playing.

hey sam, where in the 'ell have you been? missed hearing your voice around here!

careful wolf... he's on a rampage! umm... I guess so are you. grin*

yeah, thanks for the warning, stacey :)

how sweet, you left me my number!

c'mon, wer. no one left to piss off, i ran them off earlier. nick was the only brave soul to come back (or maybe he thrives on abuse). HEY! you and he on line at the same time, you're the same dudes eh?

(no, actually i'm db... didn't ya know?)

well, that figures, since neither one of you have been back. course, you could be all these people I talk to yeah, it's some kind of sick joke *giggle*

Oh my gosh, what was that across my lips? was it...nooooooo....it was, a smirk

listening to bruce... "thunder road"... (sigh)... (by the way, sam... i love mozart... esp. "eine kleine..." 'course, he can't sing worth a damn...)

*giggle* amusing thought, nick. Last night was, in no uncertain terms, a Mary Black night. This morning I would've liked to listen to something difficult and LOUD. But even amid all my frustration, I had the consideration for the sleeping other. (or maybe I just wanted to spare the kittens)

listening to the who...(Tommy)... "we're not gonna take it"... afternoon filled with boring mind-numbing business crap... bumming through europe is beginning to look very good...

(can i come too?)

(by the way, sam... i love mozart... esp. "eine kleine..." 'course, he can't sing worth a damn...) 'Course not! He's DEAD! Bing Crosby can't sing either, for the same reason! BTW, listening to 54-46 (That's My Number) by Toots & The Maytals

if you two are going, can I tag along also?

...but of course...mmm, would like to begin with barcelona, i think... the plaza de cataluna... and then? (listening to CS&N (and young)... (Greatest Hits)..."guinnevere" (i really love that name... have never known a guinnevere, either...)

well if you three are going, i'm coming along too *smile*

tiny beds, and we'll be on a budget...

yup, know how that works. can sleep on the floor, will bring own pillow

listening to the velvet underground...(self-titled)..."candy says"... (pillow? what, are ya some kinda sissy? sheesh...)

if i were a sissy, you'd have the floor, and i'd probably not have volunteered to travel with you *wink*

hey baby... not expecting to sleep in many beds, anyway... gonna do the "steps of a palace, green grass of a ditch" thing... the rimbaud tour...

alright, who's got the tents? maybe we can hook up with discovery, they've got a series on travelling.........

tents? discovery? (you're not getting into the spirit of this thing at all...)

*grin*

Maybe we could get MTV to do a "The Virtual World" show with the four of us living together for a year... (I'm assuming, of course, none of us would kill another...)

nick, you suggesting we just pass out in the bars until someone picks us up? Is it the 10 o'clock 'everywoman for herself' battle cry? hmmm... sounds fun. Last night and this morning, listened to Laurie Freelove, Red Hot &Blue and Harry Chapin --- Titanic

Man, I hope not, I'll be the only one left, awake and sober and lonely...

well, could always do the swinburne thing... rossetti used to pin his (swinburne's) hotel address to his (uh, swinburne's) lapel, so that when he passed out later on, someone would know what to do with him... (and wer... sober and lonely is definitely not the point...)

had a friend threaten to write his number on my forehead before a girls' night out in college. You see, I had missed picking him up at the airport (by several drinks!) the previous girls' night out. no WER, you've definitely missed the point! *smile*

Solitary Man - Neil Diamond. One of my mottos in life, actually, along with "Nothing in life is stable", "The less you have, the less you have to lose", "Suicide's not worth it unless you take at least one hundred thousand people with you"...

share enough of that neil diamond with the people you interact with, before you go... cumulatively, you'll achieve the same effect...

no I didn't...gotta be awake to do the carrying, you know...besides, someone has to defend the honor of this group... (and/or protect its virtue) (that, and do the filming)

film away... very little virtue left! Listening to Fleetwood Mac after a marathon bout with Steely Dan. BTW, name another group where all the songs sound the same. Already fingered Journey!

(actually, sting and steve perry could be brothers)... you mean sound the same, or be boring (like sting and journey) and sound the same? 'cause, for instance, i've always thought that old van halen (because of the limited range of david lee roth) sounded pretty similar, but that's okay, 'cause it still sounded so good... and then, of course, there were the beegees (everything sounds like "stayin' alive", i dunno, it's creepy)... oh, how 'bout meatloaf? everything he sings sounds like- uh, meatloaf... and that can't be good... (journey is the best example i know of... steve perry nearly single-handedly trivialized the ballad form beyond repair... well, let's hope so, anyway)...

ok, i'll handle the camera but the carrying will have to be done by somebody else yeah, journey does sound the same over and over (but that doesn't keep me from listening to 'em) How about Ace of Base? They've got the drum machine on the same tempo through and through....

Ace of Base: Swedish reggae music. Listening to Mary, Mary by Jacob "Killer" Miller & Inner Circle. Columbian Red, Go to my head, Miss Mary, You strike again. Smokin' smokin' smokin' Is good for the brain, I don't want no more of That thar cocaine, Smokin' smokin' smokin' Is good for the brain; Miss Mary, You strike again!

BTW, like half of all good reggae music, that came out in the Seventies.

I am 700, I am 700, I am...

lucky you!!

Really? You seemed to be much, much younger! If you were Nick, I'd believe you...

LOL!! Hi Sam *smile*

(was meatloaf jamaican?)

You know, Nick, I think you and Sam might be soulmates...

hmmmm... perhaps (if i HAD a soul and all)...

don't accuse me, I didn't take it...

(genetic defect)

congenitally damned, or theosophically lower than Man?

congenitally, i suppose... theosophically, the only creature lower than man (to shamelessly plunder twain) is the french... (just checked in at the planet... what did the last part of your comment to that thing i wrote ("dialogue") mean? (oh, and to answer your other question... i rarely sleep... the upside of the soulless thing...)

uh, that should be frenchMAN... (grammatically incorrect there... sorry)

geas?

yes... (what does it mean?)

you are under a "spell," or compulsion, to perform a quest and cannot rest until it is accomplished...

ooooo, spoooooooky!!! Hi guys!

hiya, Wolf! (am surprised you're still speaking to me with my lack of response lately and all...)

yeah, well, i forgive ya! *hug*

Meatloaf was Canadian, and is part of the reason I say that I have yet to hear a good Canadian singer. Nick finally admits to not having a soul. Well, it was fairly obvious that he didn't have soul, as for a soul... ...(then again, he is an a-soul)... BTW, currently listening to Wild Thing as performed by Jimi at Monterey!

Sam, you make me laugh! *smile*

Good to hear! Thanks!

A Paula Cole, Steely Dan, Sublime, Mary Black, CSN&Y, Neil Diamond (!!) weekend. I would've enjoyed seeing some live music this weekend but the body was too run down for an evening of drunken debauchery. Too bad.

spent the weekend (Sat) babysitting kids (and their parents) while waiting the Mardis Gras parade of the Krewe of Gemini to pass us. It was lame. They threw junk (and i mean junk) to everyone around us. don't know if i'm doing it again next year!

(heroin?) ("krewe of gemini" have like a lou reed chapter?)

you talkin' to me? *wink* dunno much about krewe of gemini, but don't think lou reed is a player. but they threw marshmallo pies, a couple of dubloons, and some beads. it was not worth the wait to me (and no one does the daring deals that are commonplace in New Orleans)

listened to Brian Setzer Orchestra last night and Paula Cole lulled me to sleep

didja see her at the grammy's?

Boiling water. Just to have something cooking. Look what you're giving away. ... on KUT FM 90.5 Austin

Don't you just love it when your favorite local station gets on a roll and your crusing through the Spring ... KUT got on one tonight and I got on a roll myself creating a new conference (news), a bunch of new topics, and some downright controversial, not-for-the-faint-of-heart stuff. I'm gonna get me mo' music and less tv! Yeah!

no tv... didn't see the grammy's. last night listened to James Taylor.

where's the new topics, wanna have a look-see!

New topics in genx and news, and more!

more, More, MORE! Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday!

uh oh. WERs on a new topic rampage. Keep the clothes on hon, and unknot the panties... they be a comin'! *big smile*

I guess that means they're off today, huh? They are a lot easier to unknot that way... and a long overdue big *smile* back, sweetie...

none today either!

one of these days...

Haddaway.

listed to Mark Isham's TIBET last night. worthy.

luv haddaway (only have one of his tapes, though)

in the background bach's cello solos in the foreground, the cfp98 audio off the spring front page, wonder if there is a topic around somewhere about the cfp98 conference. and hello.

sarah mclachlan

Yes, there is...go to http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/cfp/all Or Ange, and, Welcome!

Which tape do you have of haddaways?

simply called haddaway, listen to it alot, esp. at the gym

Same here, it has two cuts of "What is Love".

yup, really like Life (the mission control mix). the first time i heard what is love was on Clare's My So-Called Life...went into the store asking about the theme of that show, thank goodness someone had a clue!

hi wer thanks for your good directions, i found my way back here!

no problema

savage garden today (which could, quite literally, describe my garden)

andre previn! this morning... Paula Cole and THETHE

Loreena McKennitt (very lovely cd)

(hey you)

why are you whispering? how ya doin'?

(yew makin' fun of my mannerisms?) middlin'...

aw, what's going on?

(marvin gaye)

silence here....

what a wonderful sound, that....can hear everything, feel much, and think, maybe too much....but i love it, especially on a sunny day, just to listen to the air, the tree branches, the birds, and that lone dog across the way who decided it was too quiet for him. but silence when it rains is good too, like to hear the crackle of the thunder, the split-second noise right before lightening strikes, the sound of the rain against the exhaust fan in the kitchen, to smell it in the air, even the sound of hail hitting against the window pane and piling up out underneath the gutter spout......

(trying to confuse me? simon and garfunkle?)

(gotcha... you're like "feeling groovy")...

no, it's quiet here....besides, you're too easy to confuse, no fun!

feelin' groovy? where'd you get that from??? (actually am feelin' pretty good)

(james brown)

read your mail?

(the boxtops?) (nope... that be a hint?)

huh? you did that on purpose, didn't you.....

(uhhh, "can't you see"?)

ok, read your mail, no hint there, it was a command *grin*

damn!!! yes'm... (but yer beginning to sound like my mother again)...

okay... i read it... what is it you be looking to know?

nutin, just seeing if you read your mail (and if you'd obey the mistress o' the swamp) *grin*

btw, there ARE a few things i's be lookin' to know....

(so you're like "searchin'?) yeeeessss?

depends......(boy, you sure seem happy for some reason)

(uhhh, "make me smile"? "school's out (forever)"?) depends on what? (and yer the one that's "feelin' groooovy")...

if i'm searchin'

("lucy in the sky (with diamonds)"?)

what is all this? no, just curious about some fool's gold (wondering how it got in my pocket)

and why the lady with the tamborine keeps asking me about it

(sigh) define fool's gold, please? and who might the lady with the tambourine be?

nope....just need to think about it a sec and you'll get it, methinks

(uhhhh... yer DEFINITELY giving me too much credit)... do gypsies play tambourines? does fool's gold equate to lies? has anybody here seen my old friend martin?

smart as a whip, that 'un is...

what be the question?

nick, have you been to the planet at all, just to browse? am having trouble grasping some things and maybe here is not the place....

gotta go....stop by my site, huh?

no... not since i talked to you last... is it really that bad? (and if we're talking about "her" the answer is simple enough, and you already know it... hell, i'm planning on probably getting married to somebody else, maybe)...

(uhhh, perhaps)...

(the spaniels)... g'night...

g'night

(hey... i went... i saw... thanks)...

listening to otis redding, btw... Best Of... "these arms of mine"...

gots a question and i knows yous guyz gots an answer: sarah mclachlan does this song that goes something like this, pardon my singing, part of the chorus (what i could make out anyway) I'll take your breath away After I wipe away your tears, close your eyes dear there....it's really pretty and i can't figure out the name of it or what cd it's on. can you give me an answer??? huh??? anybody????

oh, remember a bit more: And I won't be the one to hold you down, kiss your soul (sorry if i'm steppin' on toes putting the lyrics here, but they're probably messed up-you know, hypolyrictosis)

*blush* (that would be chronic lyrictosis--see what i mean?)

Last night a local radio station (with the help of the national album network or something like that) previewed the new Dave Matthews album. The first release (that's already on the airwaves) reminds me of Peter Gabriel, the other tunes really go back and forth with the all out instrumental rampages that I like in the first place and controlled rythmns with piercing lyrics. I enjoyed listening beginning to end!

I heard his new one and liked it. (liked crash too)

am listening to Madonna's Immaculate Collection. ya'll go on and laugh, but she is one of my favorite artists of all time.

I saw in her in some charity concert the other night. She was the surprise hit of the gig, according to the report. She looks better than ever.

went through my Ministry phase last week, I'm better now.

ooh, and I missed it? Damn... (andidja notice you hit #800, too?)

She scored.

woohoo!!

*blushing* thankyou, thankyou, thankyou. (prepared speech) Really it was nothing... you see... when I was a child... I always had large goals... some may have taunted me for my lofty aspirations... but I perservered... (blah blah blah) glad I could hit 800. One small post for woman, One great response number for cyberkind!

(and the crowd goes wild!!!!!)

she will be on the cover of every cyber magazine that hits the stands!! won't be able to go anywhere unescorted!! (man, can ya believe 800??)

can I escort sometime? huh? can I?

well... the Yahoo! reception is coming up and then the obligatory meeting with Mr. Gates. They'd like me to deliver a speech on the superiority of a six-pin connection... can you make any of those?

sure, why not? (especially since you and a six-pin connection is VERY intriguing...)

*smile*

can't figure out the socket configuration, however... for example, each pin in it's own or are they doubled- or tripled-up, etc.

it's simple... and too difficult to explain. *laugh* Listening to... (sick music) Handel Natalie Merchant 10,000 Maniacs Lyle Lovett Jimmy Buffett Stevie Ray Vaughn Eric Clapton Mary Black

I REALLY THINK CLAPTON OUTDID HIMSELF WITH PILGRIM. AND THATS THROUGH "MY" EYES NOT MY FATHER'S. NICK

Zoot Suit Riot by the Cherry Poppin' Daddies

a super fun song!

can I drag a comb thru your dark brown hair?

the straight hair or curly hair?

didn't know you had any that was curly... can I look before I choose? currently listening to Living in a Dream by The Arcangels

listened to: Toni Child - House of Hope Dire Straits - ??? Dave Matthews - the new one Tori Amos - boys for pele and under the pink James Taylor - Greatest Hits

Journey's Greatest Hits Steve Miller Band's Greatest Hits Tom Petty and the HeartBreakers GH Don Henley's GH Many Others

Blue on Black

How ironic! DJ Bobo . . . some techno to get me in the mood for Friday's start of the Z�ri-Fest . . . merry-go-around, that is. WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Spearhead Ween Toni Childs Lyle Lovett Bob Geldof They Might Be Giants Jimmy Buffet Dave Matthews Neil Diamond ABBA (CDs lying in front of the player... been listening for a couple of days...)

some Joe Ely cd right now

huh? Of all those souls I know only ABBA. Listening to Modern Talking . . . yes, I do have rather $hit taste in music!

James Taylor. Live on PBS.

Don't know him at all! DJ Bobo - more crap!!!

See topic 53 for some James Taylor background.

Thanks, Terry!

Rolling Stones. "Please to meet you . . they shouted out, who killed the Kennedys?" "...won't you guess my name?"

You mean Mick killed the Kennedys? Good for him! Taking a stand like that, and everything....

Paul Simon's GRACELAND

rain (and more rain) (it's always raining here)

that doesn't sound pleasant to me (do you like the rain?)

I LOVE the sound of falling rain.

as do I...

the sound of falling rain (i prefer big honking thunderstorms myself) is one thing Living in a city where it rains "always" sounds less appealing If I had to choose between sound and smell of rain... i think I'd pick smell

I like the smell right before it rains. You know it's gonna rain by the smell.

i like it especially in the summer.. when it rains you can smell it cooking on the hotasphalt

I associate rain's smell with the musty odor it leaves behind on one's clothes (both those worn in the rain, and those unfortunates left hanging on the clothesline).

HVAC noise

Harvey Danger.

"What it's like" Everlast

sinead lohan

from: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Picture/7954/review1sinead.html Sin�ad Lohan's sophomore release, No Mermaid, is a richly equipped album with catchy hooks and thoughtful, deep lyrics. This album is one smart cookie, because it's got everything a great album needs--superb, reflective lyrics, catchy tunes, a great voice, and a variety of rhythms. No Mermaid is all that and more. The greatest gems on this album are: "Don't I Know," a slicing song with cool lyrics and a danceable beat; "Whatever It Takes..." is a rollicking, bright and almost Irish-influenced song as Sin� d's voice glimmers over it all; "What Can Never Be," a light, almost lullaby-like song; "Hot On Your Trail," a song with deep lyrics and a spicy beat; and "Diving To Be Deeper," a playful and vivacious song with a unique rhythm. All in all, No Mermaid stands out as being a shining beacon in the sea of Irish singer albums, and Sin�ad's effervescent voice proves that she's worthy to be counted as one of the best. "No Mermaid" song lyrics: No Mermaid we went down to the edge of the water you were afraid to go in, you said there might be sharks out there in the ocean and I said I'm only going for a swim I was swimming around in a circle I wasn't always in view you said we might get into red flag danger and I am alone when I'm not with you But I am no mermaid I am no mermaid and I am no fisherman's slave I am no mermaid I am no mermaid I keep my head above the waves We were swinging from the centre of the ceiling you were afraid to give in I said I know I'll always live for this feeling and you closed your eyes, you said never again We were dancing in the middle of the desert you said we'll burn under the hot sun I said I'd rather be the colour of pleasure than watch like you from under the thumb But I am no mermaid I am no mermaid and I am no fisherman's slave I am no mermaid I am no mermaid I keep my head above the waves We went down to the edge of the water you were afraid to go in you said there might be sharks out there in the ocean and I said I'm only going for a swim I was living around in a circle I wasn't always in view you said we might get into red flag danger and I am alone when I'm not with you. But I am no mermaid I am no mermaid and I am no fisherman's slave I am no mermaid I am no mermaid I keep my head above the waves Don't I Know Lift your head up out of your hands, love I can't take you anywhere Sometimes you give me all you've got to give me and sometimes you act like you don't care Don't I know the days are only what we make them? Don't I know the nights go only where we take them? You carry all my light about you drawing deeply in the air A choice, a fight, a call, a whisper you always let me know you're there Don't I know the days are only what we make them? Don't I know the nights go only where we take them? An arrow pointed deep and directly scatters on the silver soul As if I never even noticed I could be almost all the way home Don't I know the days are only what we make them? Don't I know the nights go only where we take them? Lift your head up out of your hands, love I can't take you anywhere Sometimes you give me all you've got to give me and sometimes you act like you don't care Don't I know the days are only what we make them? Don't I know the nights go only where we take them? Whatever It Takes... Whatever it takes you to believe it that's all right with me Take this morning in my kitchen or whatever that helps you to believe You will find me down by the river getting high on my mortality I'll be holding hands with my nameless beauty or whoever wants to stand next to me All eyes on me I'm going to the moon Time heals what you can't see heads back I'm leaving soon, leaving soon. You can take it easy �cause I've a mind to put your parachute on slow We're moving into calmer waters where all your loveliness will show For all of your wanting me to react to "look no hands on this carousel" for me to be true to whatever you cling to whenever your heart is going to tell All eyes on me I'm going to the moon Time heals what you can't see heads back I'm leaving soon, leaving soon. Whatever it takes you to believe it that's all right with me Take this morning, say it walks on water whatever that helps you to believe You will find me down by the river getting high on my mortality I'll be holding hands with my nameless beauty or whoever wants to stand next to me All eyes on me I'm going to the moon Time heals what you can't see heads back I'm leaving soon, leaving soon. Loose Ends Tie up loose ends darling baby's heart is broken As the road bends look at all you are becoming Stretch your calling way beyond where distance finds you What is calling now must take you to the harbour I trouble all the time but in lines I stand up to be strong And I meet you in the green and in the blue and in the wanting to belong All of us do really love you you are surrounded You can come out now It is time to be unburdened Stretch your calling way beyond where distance takes you What is calling now must take you to the harbour I trouble all the time but in lines I stand up to be strong And I meet you in the green and in the blue and in the wanting to belong Whether or Not Whether you like a storm breaking or whether you don't there's still one thing you have to say to me maybe you won't But every time it feels like lightning it's not easy to pretend and I don't want to lay it all on a line If you can't believe me And I don't want to say I love you all the time if you don't need me Whether I'm like a storm breaking or whether I'm not It seems I'm in this tree nearly all my life but, you see, maybe I'm not And every time it feels like lightning it's not easy to pretend and all this fire in the air isn't mine, not mine completely But I let it light me every day of my life so I can be me Time in itself means nothing to me Time is on the wall There's nothing you can do to stop the dance in you sometimes it's run walk crawl And every time it feels like lightning it's not easy to pretend and I don't want to lay it all on a line if you can't believe me And I don't want to say I love you all the time if you don't need me Whether you like a storm breaking or whether you don't there's still one thing you have to say to me maybe you won't And every time it feels like lightning it's not easy to pretend and I don't want to lay it all on a line if you don't believe me And I don't want to say I love you all the time if you don't need me. And I don't want to lay it all on a line if you can't believe me and I don't want to say I love you all the time if you don't need me. What Can Never Be When past lovers have left you down did you think I'd place the crown upon your head? Do you think I bury the dead with my love? When past lovers have left you down what makes you think I stand all alone? In my grief I fell into your heart with my love, with my love. When in days I dream of you night time hardly holds the key when I am still believing in what can never be what can never be. You know that I could wallow in your charms just like when I'm a baby in your arms you know that I was blinded by the sun in my eyes with no compromising on your side Well, I can't love you anymore, not knowing that you're always outside, that you're always out there smiling through it's not you, it's not like you. When in days I dream of you night time hardly holds the key when I am still believing in what can never be what can never be. You know that I need you like my life Did you realize your latest dream is it always only rivers that I'll steal with my love, with my love, with my love, with my love? Believe It If You Like An evil kind of sorrow makes me wait until tomorrow for what I really want today the sadness in the picture makes it look much richer than what I wanted it to say Believe it if you like You might as well be trying as doing nothing here at all Sleeping in the night you might as well be trying as doing nothing here at all. Even in the evenings I've got time to pick and choose who I would like to be my friend And one will always be here love will last forever we are forever to the end Believe it if you like You might as well be trying as doing nothing here at all Sleeping in the night you might as well be trying as doing nothing here at all. A candle on the mantelpiece it's evidence to show the kind of things I like to see You can take it as a warning to keep the fire burning when the singer goes away with me There has to be a river I saw it in a dream I know exactly where I'm going I know exactly where I've been Whisper in the open breeze You like the clouds, I love the trees Candelabra, wait for me This is not an easy way To do the things you have to say: "I love you, will you stay with me?" Believe it if you like You might as well be trying as doing nothing here at all Sleeping in the night you might as well be trying as doing nothing here at all. Out of the Woods I wish you out of the woods and into the picture with me I wish you over the moon come out of the question and be. If this is going to run around in my head I might as well be dreaming run round in my head. I rollercoaster for you Time out of mind must be heavenly. It's all enchanted and wild It's just like my heart said it was going to be If this is going to run around in my head I might as well be dreaming run round in my head. If this is going to run around in my head I might as well be dreaming run round in my head. I wish you out of the woods and into the picture with me I wish you over the moon come out of the question and be If this is going to run around in my head I might as well be dreaming run round in my head. People and Tables The people and tables are set to the bone the ladies in waiting long to go home wallflowers drooping against pastel shades Oh, for a man with no lock on his gate Waiting for nothing confuses the mind letting go pieces for no one to find the smell from the afternoon sits in the air Oh, for a man with no back to his chair I never wanted, I never wanted and I never got, I never got I never wanted, I never once wanted and I never got, I never once got. Sweeping the outskirts and keeping the jar something had been telling me you were not far from a jewel in a casket to a pearl in a shell Oh, for a man with not stories to tell. I never wanted, I never wanted and I never got, I never got I never wanted, I never once wanted and I never got, I never once got. The people and tables are ste to the bone, the ladies in waiting long to go home wallflowers drooping against pastel shades Oh, for a man with no lock on his gate. Waiting for nothing confuses the mind letting go pieces for no one to find the smell from the afternoon sits in the air Oh, for a man with no back to his chair I never wanted, I never wanted and I never got, I never got I never wanted, I never once wanted and I never got, I never once got. Disillusioned You're sitting there, you're disillusioned and you're hoping I'll get to you in the end How can I? Your disillusion makes you find a broken heart and take a friend I don't only love you when you're standing by my side I don't only love you when you see things my way I don't suddenly not love you now you're up in your own tree �cause I'll always love you, me Times at night you're tearing pages to the post Worry calling all your true loves home That's no way, no way to spend your time You can catch that lightning on your own Time is passing by Take a good look now, what do you see? I don't even know if that's a crime you can be the judge and I'll just be me In agony we drew a circle with a stone What's the colour of the raindance I don't know? When it closes in, I know you'd rather be alone In the day's disguise, night's howling at the moon I don't only love you when you're standing by my side I don't only love you when you see things my way I don't suddenly not love you now you're up in your own tree �cause I'll always love you, me �cause I'll always love you, me �cause I'll always love you, me. Hot On Your Trail Hot on your trail, blood is red Get on your high horse out of here If they catch me I am dead Get on your high horse out of here We said it all we said it all Hold on for me hold on for me We said it all we said it all Hold on for me hold on for me You don't settle you don't pay you live a lot like that's no good for me Hard time taking what you get, you've got to lie low follow your moon that's all I ever did We said it all we said it all Hold on for me hold on for me We said it all we said it all Hold on for me hold on for me Diving To Be Deeper Her majesty was so fine he almost thought that she was real but she's divine he thought she was caught up in a web but she's the tangle and as she went flying through the air he caught on by her ankle Her attitude is all right she's mainly on the up but she tends to lie he thought she was swimming against the tide but she's the tangle and as she went butterflying down she led him on to strangle And he went diving diving down diving down diving down just to be deeper and he only took her money �cause he thought that he could never really keep her This century will fall down but it's just a crown we thought she was caught up in a web but she's the tangle and as she went flying through the air he fell off at an angle The legacy was burning bright she's living in a dream but she's all right he thought she was dying of a scream but she's the screamer and when she passed him on the end she smiled and he believed her And he went diving diving down diving down diving down just to be deeper and he only took her money �cause he thought that he could never really keep her Her majesty was so fine he almost thought that she was real but she's divine he thought she was caught up in a web but she's the tangle and as she went flying through the air he caught on by her ankle Her attitude is all right she's mainly on the up but she tends to lie he thought she was swimming against the tide but she's the tangle and as she went butterflying down she led him on to strangle And he went diving diving down diving down diving down just to be deeper and he only took her money �cause he thought that he could never really keep her

too cool, Jim... (and did anyone else notice that "...superb, reflective lyrics, catchy tunes, a great voice, and a variety of rhythms..." sounds just like Stacey, as well?)

*smile* thanks for posting all the groovy lyrics Jim for everyone else to read! Brandon teases me for listening to the CD over and over and over again... but it just makes me feel so good...

It's variety-day! (not the german Variet�, which is cabaret, by variety as in mucho choice!) I first heard some funny japanese Ska-punk from a band named Kemuri, with horn section and full riot gear. CD's called "77 days". Japanese ska - what has the world come to, global sound system or what! Groove on, ya Ska-Samurais! Then I played a remix-CD from german label Plattenmeister, called "Plattenbau" (various artists). "Platte" means disc and record, so the label name is cool, and the CD's title does not commemorate the ugly housing project block built as Plattenbauten, but says: We build records! Some fine electronic things on there, for the more modern minded. Info via blumentrt@aol.com . And now to something completey different: a CD called "Tumi Cuba Classics Vol. 4: The Big Sound Son 14 with Adalberto ALvarez". I've never heard of the label Tumi before, I think it's cuban. Good cuban dance big band stuff. Rocks! Please ask that Bill dude who likes cigars so much to lift the trade embargo against Cuba; it's only hurting babies and musicians (e.g. do the young ones have to nick church's piano wires to string up their guitars, especially bass guitars). You gotta know when some things have outlived their purposes (especially if you don't see any result coming from it). Before all of you go ballistic on "What! He's bigmouthing again, and even supports dictatorships, and doesn't play OUR valuable contributions to world culture AT ALL the foreign so-and-so!", please let me state that (a) I'm not (at least again), (b) I don't, and - last not least - (c) ACTUALLY DID! My choice of current musical americana was the brand new, hot hot CD-single from Sleater-Kinney, A Quarter to three/Burn-Don't freeze. Three females of the species who rock (homo sapiens rockiens)! An nice listening to, which is not too rough and noisy, but also doesn't get to mainstreamy. They tour Germany in May, probably now hit stages in the US, and the CD The Hot Rock is out now. If you care for rock, go for it.

Look for some Shoulders in your part of the world... bet you'll like them as well... (should send you my two Israeli memetic techno cd's, too...hmmm...)

oops, forgot to say, yep, Japanese ska is a riot!

Look for some Shoulders in your part of the world... bet you'll like them as well... (should send you my two Israeli memetic techno cd's, too...hmmm...)

groovy WER... I've never heard Japanese Ska... I shall start searching!

Mary Black - Babes in the Wood

Mozart.

Dragonball Z

Wer, what's Shoulders? What Label?

when I find the cd, I'll post the American and European labels...

Beck.

"I wanna be Kate - The Songs of Kate Bush" as covered by Chicago acts; CD out on Brownstar Records label.

Continuing coverage of the Colorado school shootings...

"Colorado School Shootings" - would that be a hard rock band making a pun with "School Outing"?

no. that would be my fair community making headlines with a completely senseless loss of life (this has been really difficult actually. never think it'll happen in your town. the place you settle to be out of the hustle and bustle of speedy city life. our home.

Expand on subject.

I posted the first info yesterday in news... (news outside the Spring)

Epic Soundtracks (+ 1997), Everything Is Temporary, new CD from new SF-label Innerstate ( www.innerstate.com , and tell 'em Alexander from superstar mag told ya!). Some tracks might soothe your feelings, Stacey.

lotsa time sweating and crying usually makes me feel better but music is always helpful

Sublime.

Lucky Dube.

Please enlighten me.

He's an African raggae singer - does that mean I have to answer in the African music topic? �grin� ... And give the label and different albums currently available?

That would be always a fine thing. Artis: Title (Label / Distributor), Country Year. There are artists where you walk in the shop and say "Bowie" or "REM" and get served no questions asked. But if you go "Kemuri" or "Mumble & Peg" (current releases), you'll get that glassy eyed look. Then they ask you what label. Then you either know or not. Most cases, knowing doesn't help, because it's a very-small backyard-label, so it would have to be distributor or importer instead. Having all that really makes ordering stuff easier... (and helps to distinguish between original releases and possible reissues). Also, often you can guess a lot about an artist or at least about his record, if you know la el and release date (like e.g. Elvis' Sun years, famous labels Chess for early Rock, Verve for Jazz, Motown,...) If you'd like to, write something on Lucky Dube and put it in African. Tell me more...

ha-ha!!! If you were a university, I'd drop out!

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awww. youmade him cry and swallow his other eye...

ROTFLOL!! Same old Ree-head.

Yeah, lazy and a pain in the ar$e! ha-ha! (oh, and GOOD one, Stacey!! ha-ha!!!! We girls are just so on form at the moment, aren't we???) But don't cry, Alexander - it's just that I don't know the label. I know that Lucky Dube is really famous in South Africa now - I only heard his name once or twice while I still lived in Namibia. But the song that I was listening to was on another cd, called, 'Voices of South Africa', a compilation of the best music groups there. I am trying to broaden my knowledge of Southern African music, you see. And it's GREAT! What is your favourite type of music?

the kind he can hear methinks

that would be my guess as well

Nanci Griffith 'Flyer'

Nothing for a change.

Just the Sound of Silence? (love S&G)

Paul Simon is on tour this summer...

Naw, for a change not a single record. That was then, today and tommorrow gotta hack the last reviews together. What I like the best is doing the 45s we got in. superstar even has a special section for them, "45 is alive".

Woohoo! Where can I go to see Paul Simon? Please say DC-Balto-Phila...

"DC-Balto-Phila..." (how'd I do??)

Way to be a syncophant, Stacey!

syncophant, elephant... I am a jill of all trades!

errr... sycophant or psycho-phant...

Do those come from Africa, or are they native American beasts? How do they look like, compared to elephants? Big ears? Long trunk?

And, I wonder, is "Jill of all trades" the opposite to "Jack of all asses"? Just curious... (Listening to Neil Y.'s Harvest right now. Not my choice, but not bad, either. Hey, there's a brilliant 2 CD-tribute album out right now with really great stuff on it, trust me. Check http://www.innerstate.com , they sell it, and tell them you got it from me...)

but if they sell it and we buy it from them... then we'd have 'got it' from them not you...

Aw, Stace, one day you'll be my early death! You know what I mean - if you tell them who you heard it from, they'll be happy to see how good news spread! Listen, Russ (Tolman) and Pat (Thomas) run that label in San Francisco. Pat is a regular contributor to superstar, and Russ has done an online-chat-interview with another musician for us last year. BTW, Innerstate has the record I love the most at the moment - Epic Soundtracks' posthumous releases, compiled by his brother Nikki Sudden. This record is supreme, angelic, intelligent, moving, strong songwriting, emotional, something one can relate to, love songs, etc. Not sweet, not yacky, but very human, very much stuff you can relate to. Very low-key, most is just piano and vocals, some tracks with guitar, and there are a few radio- and live tracks, too, just to show how much this stuff can rock. Whic it didn't have to prove with me, the way it touched me. But I preach to deaf ears. None of you have ever bought anything I recommended, nor will you ever. Whyzzat so? I mean, I could easily say, kids - go out and buy Innerstate's Neil Young Tribute-CD for Mr. Walhus's next birthday. Wouldn't happen, would it?

I buy one CD about every 5 years or so, which makes it rather unlikely that it will be African bongoes, Finnish tango or even Neil Young.

But don't you sometimes think you want to listen to something different? Or is the radio sufficient for you? Or whatever drone comes out of your kids lairs? I'm really curious, because I have all these discussions around me lately on (a) why the record market loses most customers when they reach mid-twenties, and why some folks stick around, and (b) - the heavy weight discussion - how consumption of recordings and shopping habits differed between female and male buyers. A side show was why guys always sort their records and think up new sorting systems, and gals couldn't be bothered to do something like that at all. (I never said a lot about bongos, just brass... Massive brass, too!)

Occasionally, something different appeals. But overwhelmingingly, the radio is perfectly adequate for my listening needs. Even that gets on my nerves after a while--one more "voice" vying for my attention. BTW, you hit the nail on the head with that last comment--my husband's music is in alphabetical order, mine isn't even necessarily in its proper jacket.

ha-ha, Autumn, how true! Sometimes I discover my cd's in bed with me, and the jackets always seem to come apart - one can't even throw them at a failed painting without them breaking to bits. �sigh� I don't know....

May I refer again to my post #892 ? superstar's next issue (#14) will run an essay by Nikki Sudden, Epic's brother, on Epic. Very beautiful, and I'll keep it untranslated. Nice pictures, too. And still the Epic Sondtracks-compilation mentioned in #892 is my best-loved record this summer. Runs still at least twice a week. Right now I listen to a CD-reissue sent to me by Nikki Sudden of his former band Swell Maps, where Epic was drumming among other things. Hello Riette! Nice to see you here... Tip: you can fling the CDs at paintings! Fly like ninja-frisbees! But yes, the plastic jackets are a bother. Quite a percentage of the stuff superstar gets to review, the sleeves are damaged. You can get spares (CD- and computer-shops), but that's besides the point. Much nicer are the so-called "Digipaks" with cardboard folding-cover.

Nikki Sudden. Never heard of him, but next time I go to Jecklin for a cd shopping spree, I'll see if I can find the cd. And how is the music of his former band, the Swell Maps? I WOULD throw the cd's at the paintings, but they're never there when I need them - only the stupid plastic covers. Last year I designed and built a bunch of cd covers with individual, handpainted covers for the 25th aniversary of the composer David H�nigsberg. I made them round and quite flat like those tin covers you get for funky popular music sometimes, but lined the inside a very fine sort of velvet material which a cd expert recommended to me. I thought it was pretty cool, then the other day one uy who bought one of the cd's rang me up, and told me ever so proudly that he took the cd out, keeps it in a regular plastic cover, and had the cover framed. ha-ha! So much for trying to make something practical!

But you did - he got artwork at probably below gallery price!

Not really. I got Sfr. 250- per cover - and you know how small a cd is. I don't even WANT to know what they paid for it with the cd in. Amazing the sort of things people can afford to waste money in, isn't it? I always find that depressing.

My motto: "Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it."

Ok, here goes - "A smack in the head."

Settle for biting your lip till it draws blood.

ooh...new topic in screwed...you can already question the Almighty Pasquina...maybe we should now be able to question the Frugal Autumn...

Simplicity is my master!

I hear ye, Oh Frugal Autumn, Whose wisdom is abundant as a Spring! (especially ON the Spring...)

The afternoon DJ on KHWI-FM (K-Hawaii Rock and Roll), Tommy "the Polynesian Pirate" Ching, just polished off a six-pack of classic James Taylor. Love it: 1) Fire and Rain 2) Sweet Baby James 3) Country Road 4) Steamroller Blues 5) Traffic Jam 6) Honey Don't Leave L.A. And I love that live PBS JT special that Terry alluded to earlier.

I'm listening to Schostakovitch's 5th Symphony on Netradio. Think I'll change to Baroque, though. Now into quiet classics and they are playing Mendelssohn's Spring song.

While Ray watches a TNN documentary on--as you put it--hillbilly music? Don't tell me I don't understand the concept of irony!

ha-ha!!! Listening to Texas right now.

I'm listening to Enya's "The Celts" (the very best Enya CD.) By the way, this background really rocks!

hiya Amy! I listened to the same CD last night... am listening to Paula Cole's Harbinger right now

Hi, Stacey! Now I'm listening to The Smith's "Singles" (God, I love "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now"!) It's the proper listening material for Colin Firth fans! (Yes, I'm a "drooler"!)

I Listen to the new Stereo Total-LP (yeah, I bought the vinyl on the concert!).

Beethoven's "Fidelio" (op. 72). Frankfurt Opera Orchestra.

Oh, John...How glorious!!! I was listening to you and now listening to college fight songs played with great enthusiasm at football games on boradcast.com

Boola Boola!

Sumpthin' li'dat. Can't hear good enough to tell, but i think that was Yale's big song, and they hardly ever televise Yale out here or even put them on NetRadio!

It was. It was written in the early 1900s by a Yalie from Honolulu who was quite the Hawaiian songwriter, Sonny Cunha.

You are kidding! Unreal! Not Sonny Kunha? Interesting as all get-out. The stuff you learn here...*lol* Mahalo plenty!

Amy, where in Ireland do you live?

Woo Woo! Don Henley's on the Spring Cam...!!! babalicious... gotta run over to the appropriate topic!

New record out, don't he?

WHO IS DON HENLEY????

Uuummhh, Eagles? Looooong ago.... Hihi, generation gap in music, I love to talk about this. Last weekend I got somebody REALLY pi��ed, when I told him I don't care about the Beatles AND the Stones. Gawd, I thought this discussion was closed many years ago. This guy got really angry, I tried to explain, that I wasn't even planned when the discussion about which one's the most greatest band was on, and when those bands were hip, but he couldn't accept how this music couldn't play an important role in ones life....

I was a wee thing when the Eagles were hep but some of my fondest memories are belting out the tunes with my dad while driving in the car!

Yeah, early music memories will never leave you. I know this one, cause I have an elder brother who listened to 60s and 70s rock music, when I was little I loved his music, some of it still today.(...and some not) What made the guy really angry was, that I didn't accept their historical IMPORTANCE and their being above all ( best bands ever was and ever will be...) Times they are a'changin', aren't they!?

Yes! I'm still in the A-HA! stage. My kids think I'm an old geek! They say my music ain't cool. Isa is into DJ Bobo, heaven forbid!

Ree, in case you didn't get my post in male babes and didn't quite catch Stacey's glossed over reference, Don Henley was the Eagles' drummer and (sometime) lead vocalist. He has had a decent solo career. Some of his hits--you may recognize one or two: "Boys of Summer," "Sunset Grill," "End of the Innocence," "(Sit Down) You're Rocking the Boat," "All She Wants to Do is Dance." He is possessed of a powerful, clear, seemingly limitless upper-range rock-and-roll tenor voice. Decent acoustic guitarist and accomplished songwriter as well. Has abilities like Phil Collins, but is taller and better looking--and American.

'glossed over'? what did i gloss? did i dis Henley inadvertantly?

No, you just mentioned the Eagles without mentioning that Henley had been in the group...

I really thought this whole discussion with this guy being a generation conflict - everybody has it's own favourite stars - musicians - bands, but nobody believed me then...You can't tell a fourteen year old that e.g. Bob Dylan was the greatest musician there ever was and ever will be - they have their own idols, and would't accept this.. and then such discussion always go on with - "times are getting worse - look at the youth today" How I hate this! I'm not youth anymore (long, long time ago), but I woul feel very old, if I couldn't accept that times and favours are changing...and this is no disaster - at least not for me, because I can't bear stagnation...

how old are you Isabel (If you don't mind sharing)

I will always stay 29!

*grin* I was born in 68. This century!

*laugh* you are still quite young! Brandon (my fiance) loved turning 30... I'm not sure what my reaction will be!

I hated it. I feel VERY old sometimes, try to cope this with ignorance and rattling my cage bars....

I have wrinkles older than you.

You're teasin'! You can't be THAT old!

I'm 29, born in 53 this century.

:-) So you got your first wrinkles with FIFTEEN??????

I did! I'm 25, and wrinkled as hell! Seriously! Like my sister says, we are so wrinkled, if we cry whe have to wipe our ar$es, 'cos that's where the wrinkles make the tears go.

children!

I was born wrinkled. Back to the subject. I'm listening right now to Tchaivkovsky's "Piano Concerto No. 1 in B flat minor, op. 23" Peter Toperczer on piano, accompanied by the Slovak National Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by Bystrik Rezucha.

Ah, uhum....

*laugh* still cracked up (forgive the pun!) over the wiping arses comment!

I laughed at the wiping arses comment as well, but I don't think I understood it

�sigh� The wrinkles make the tears run down your back, and into your buttcrack of course! Tschaikovsky's piano concertos are great. Who is your favourite classical composer, John?

Listening to some vintage country, freshly reissued by the biz's saints, Bear Family: Roy Hogsed, "Cocaine Blues". Very informative booklet, full discography. This is the real stuff, before country rock, outlaw country, and pop with a cowboy hat.

Pop with a cowboy hat?! HA-HA!!!! Care to explain the difference between country rock, outlaw country (??) and pop with a cowboy hat?

Mozart is my favorite classical composer, although I also love Bach, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Saint-Saens, Rimsky-Korsakov, some Wagner, and America's own Aaron Copland. I used to work for a hip classical station in Los Angeles many years back. We actually said things on the air like "All dead guys, all the time..." Country rock is artists like New Riders of the Purple Sage, Hank Williams Jr., Charlie Daniels Band, Marshall Tucker Band, J.J. Cale, Mary Chapin-Carpenter, Sawyer Brown... Outlaw country (also sometimes called Armadillo music) is the Austin stuff that started some 20 years ago like Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson, David Allan Coe, Steve Goodman (deceased and actually from Chicago), Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jew Boys (I'm not kidding). Waylon and Willie started the movement by leaving Nashville and setting up shop in Austin. Willie had been a Grammy winning mainstream Nashville songwriter in the late 1950s to early 1970s ("Crazy" by Patsy Cline, "Hello Walls" by Faron Yo ng). Waylon, who started off as a DJ in Waco, was an unofficial "Cricket" in the late 50s, sometimes playing with Buddy Holly as a second guitarist. He has an amazing baritone voice, both speaking and singing (he was the narrator from "The Dukes of Hazzard") Pop with a cowboy hat is the stuff you said you liked from "Urban Cowboy." Artists include, but are not limited to: Barbara Mandrell, Steve Warriner, Glen Campbell, Alabama, Brooks & Dunn, Sweethearts of the Rodeo, Highway 101...some people would also lump Garth Brooks there, but I basically consider Garth a rock star who sings country. "The Dance" is my favorite country song from the past 20 years. I also love George Strait. I knew him in the 70s when he was in the Army and I was in the Navy in Honol lu.

Great! At least now I never have to admit to having ever liked any country music again. I'll just say that recently I like a few pop songs - all with cowboy hats on...oink.

Hmh. I used to have serious prejudices against country. What made me reconsider was (a) realising how much stuff like Violent Femmes owe to country (the OLD school), (b) having a passing crush on Hazeldine from New Mexico (which I was cured of after I saw them live again, but the second time with the then new lineup...), and (c) Dead Moon. Yeah, right. Dead Moon. Best live rock band there is. Fred Cole is now over fifty, but rocks harder than most youngsters, and he's been at it since early 60s (he's been in Lollipoppe Shoppe, knew folks like the 13th Floor Elevators and Janis Joplin, etc.), and if you ask him about his influences, his fave was Johnny Cash. And I never understood why! I mean, yeah, they did cover versions of Cash-songs, and that was hot stuff, but then, they even got Elvis-pieces to be really meaningful... (like Toody, bass player and Fred's wife, singing "Can't help falling i love"...). Then somebody played me one of Johnny Cash's jailhouse records, and I saw the light! See, he's been about, had ups and downs. And went sober and religious, and recorded spiritual stuff in a church... But he also went into jails to perform for the inmates, and picked songs that rocked them (though everybody had to stay seated), and had lyrics they could relate to. Two of these gigs were released on LPs, and are available on one CD "Live At Folsom Prison/San Quentin" from Columbia now. (One of them was also broadcast on TV) Here, he's going really at it, and you grin and smile at the witty texts, the drama and anguish of the characters, and of course of the atmosphere this stuff was recorded in - about what the prisoners laughed, and how he made fun of the guards, and the whole situation. Wow! Those are great performances! And they made me aware there is more to country than the hat-acts, coumntry-charts and the industry tells us these days. Who cares if it's rock, or country, or singer/songwriter-stuff, if the songwriting meets your standards of quality, and the music suits it perfect! (I mean, my buddy Sonny went from NYC's punk scene to Nashville on his last bucks in late 70ies to record a song inspired by Hank Williams - there you go!)

Right now I am listeneing to John Burnett on his weekend show on KWXX - but not the music...just his golden tones between sets. http://www.webradio.com/kwxx/

Thank you. I'm home now. Sorry I can't play Shostakovich for you...

Violent Femmes is cool stuff. You're right, Alexander. My old friend, Hutch, a very hip country musician and disc jockey who introduced me to punk other than Velvet Underground, the New York Dolls and the Sex Pistols, called it "punk country."

Welcome home! Actually, Shostakovitch is not my favorite composer - far too dissonant for me, but better than nothing classical...But thanks for the sentiment. I appreciate it!

Willie and Lobo

Hawaiian Music of all sorts.

haven't been here in a long time, but am listening to sting's brand new day cd. love desert rose!

I am rediscovering The Moody Blues. Is there anything they have done which does not send me into raptures? I think not! "Question" in particular... "Funeral for a Friend" Elton John. "Layla" - Derek and the Dominoes (Eric Clapton)

Sting's Desert Rose reminds me of "The English Patient" and Colin Firth losing the girl again to another Feinnes!