childrenstory.com - spoken and written stories for kids

http://www.childrenstory.com is going to be linked to the front page of http://www.tvpc.com The idea is that kids will get these stories over televison with the new set top boxes that are coming out. So the resultion has to be different than it would be if this were being developed for a website that was going to be viewed on a computer monitor. So things have to be a bit bigger. But not too much bigger. Right now the gifs and text are a bit too big, wouldn't you say?

] gifs and text are a bit too big, wouldn't you say? ___ Yes, the main page title gif is so wide I have to scroll over horizontally to see the right-most part of it. I have a 14-in NEC monitor. What is the first step. What do they need the most? More stories?

You asked what we need. More stories. Tape recordings of folks reading stories. Help with html. Help with graphics. Help setting up a Realaudio server. More critiquing and commenting! Some research on other similar sites on the web that we could link to and possibly get permission to use their content.

The updated content for Childrens Story is at: http://www.webwords.com/children Angie Dugan is doing the preliminary version and I'll be moving this over.

I resized the gifs and played with it a little, but I really need some creative help on this site. I'm hoping someone will step forward and work closely with me on this one.

Amy, did you get my email about the staging area. This and tvpc are our number one priority right now. I'll be out of pocket till tonight or early tomorrow. But take a run at the staging area if you're so inclined! There are no limits on what you can do. We're looking to gather more usable stories and illustrations. There are a few hundred illustrations that need stories and identifying that are in a subdirectory on the site.

Buddy says Project Gutenberg texts may be the answer to finding classic chidrens tales. Anyone ever hear of Project Gutenberg?

I get the newsletters, Terry.

] Amy, did you get my email about the staging area. ___ No.

] I resized the gifs and played with it a little, ____ I think I like the layout at http://www.webwords.com/children better. It does fit on my screen and seems bolder and more modern and kid-like to me than the staggered type. The way you had the Chidren's Story logo type before, both words strung along the whole screen, causing me to scroll over to see it all. Looks like Angie did it in two gifs so the words would break or not depending on monitor size and resolution. Or you could force a break between the words. How important is it that the pages look good on a monitor too? # users with settop boxes vs computers? Where could I go see a settop box in action? Or should I just think "Sega Channel?"

I'll move the webwords content over.

I put realaudio in /usr/local/realaudio You can get cooledit to make real audito files Who will volunteer to put up some childrens stories via real audio? The RA Server is on barton To launch the server: bin/pnserver server-conf Test the Server by playihg a file from the Server. For example, to play sound1.ra: pnm://barton.spring.com/sound1.ra You can get coolesit, which you need to edit realaudio filees, from the apps conference topic on cooledit.

Email mailto://terry@spring.com for details on payment schedules for content production on childrenstory.

cinderella.html pussinboots.html ws_ftp.log images sleeping.html princesspea.html theuglyduck.html www# pwd /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/tales/1page The theuglyduck.html file needs to be revised. The directory is above and the server is www.spring.com rojo has permission to revise this area. Also, doug.

What we need to do: 1. proof all stories 2. add content to the story I pulled today 3. create an interactive story 4. mix in Mary's voiceover intro on the main page 5. surf the net for more stories and get permission to use them. 6. upgrade realaudio server Who will be doing what? What can you do Mary? What can you do Doug and Laura?

I will proof and correct existing content. Also, I will add content when I am allowed access. Today, I got Andersen and Grimm fairy tales to which we can add graphics from the CD Jonathon supplied you. If I could get access tonight, I can begin.

I found a fresh version of HC Andersen Ugly Duckling from my library of 50s & 60s kids encyclopedias (8 volumes) of childrens stories etc (copyrighted 1963). I will convert the text and layout the basic pages. Mary, let me know which one you are working on so we dont do the same stuff. I read several other versions of the story that are already posted on the www. They all seemed edited for time periods and were all different. I like the version I have, I will email page when its done. I want to know who is doing what so we can be productive. I have hundreds of old stories like this in What Doug & Laura (Glaze Studio)can do; 1. webpage design 2. text editing 3. story creation & producion 4. original illustrations 5. photography including all scanning and conversions 6. realaudio recording & encoding

I'll spend the next three days working on this (Fri, Sat, and Sun), if you all are going to be around we can communicate here and on the phone and get Jonathon's site to a much higher level. We're beginning to communicate as a team and that is good!

Terry, I need to talk with you about posting pages to the site call me 219-1433 or page me 834-5112

The Ugly Duckling by Hans Christian Andersen That summer the country was particularly beautiful, and it was glorious to be out in the green fields and meadows. It was so amusing to see the white stork parading around on his long red legs and to hear him talking Egyptian, a language he had learned from his mother. In the midst of the sunny meadow stood an old farmhouse. It was surrounded by a deep canal, and from the walls down to the water grew burdock shrubs so tall that children could stand under them. It was so nice and shady there that a mother duck decided it would be a good place to sit on her nest and hatch out her young ones. At last one of the eggs cracked open, and then another and another until eight new little yellow ducklings poked out their heads and cried "Peep! Peep!" "How big the world is!" exclaimed the ducklings. They were glad to be out of those tight little eggs, and their mother was glad to let them look around at the leaves, for she knew how good for the eyes the color green is. "But this isn't the whole world by any means," she told the ducklings. "There is much more of it. It extends far beyond the other side of the garden. Maybe we can all go there sometime. Let me see now; are we all here?" She looked around and saw that one of her eggs, the largest, had not yet hatched. "Oh, dear," she said to herself, "I am so tired of sitting on eggs! I wonder how much longer this is going to last." But she sat down on the nest again and waited some more. At last the big egg cracked and broke open. Out came two big feet and a head. But it wasn't a soft little downy yellow head like the other ducklings. This one was big and white, with a long scrawny neck and a fuzzy body. "My, my!" exclaimed the mother duck when she saw him. "He certainly doesn't look like any of my other children. I wonder how he got to be so funny-looking?" "He's ugly!" quacked the other ducklings. "He doesn't look a bit like us. We don't want to play with him." And they waddled down to the pond with their mother behind them. She shoved them in and jumped in after them. The all swam beautifully. "I'll bet that big ugly white brother of ours can't swim!" exclaimed one of the little yellow ducklings. But the ugly duckling had followed them down to the pond and , seeing them all swimming, he jumped in and swam too, at least as well as any of them. "On my word!" exclaimed the mother duck. "He certainly can swim, big and ugly as he is! He must be my own child, and, after all, he's not so very ugly if you look at him right." The next day the mother duck decided to let her ducklings see something of the world. "Come along," she said, "and I'll introduce you to the animals in the poultry yard across the meadow. Stay close to me now, all of you, so you won't get stepped on. And look out for the cat." When they got to the poultry yard, a terrible fight was going on. "Dear, dear!" said the mother duck. "People are always fighting!" But she gave her ducklings their first lesson in good manners too. "You see that big haughty-looking duck with the red ribbon around her leg?" she said. "That means she is a very important person - a Spanish grandee, in fact. Now, I want you all to curtsy to her politely." They did it, nicely too, but the Spanish grandee took one look at the poor ugly duckling and bit him in the neck. "You leave him alone!" commanded his mother. "He may not be as pretty as some, but he has a sweet disposition, and he is the best swimmer of the lot. Besides, he'll look better when he grows up. He won't seem so big and awkward then." But all the creatures in the yard made fun of the ugly duckling just the same. The ducks pushed him and the chickens teased him and the turkeys bit him. Even the girl who fed the poultry kicked him. And his very own brothers and sisters were so mean to him that he felt just terrible. One day, when he couldn't stand it any longer, her decided to fly away. He flew over the barnyard fence and on and on, weary and unhappy, until he came to the marsh where the wild ducks lived. When they saw the poor duckling, they said, "My, how ugly you are! But we don't really mind as long as you don't marry any of us. You can stay here if you want to." The poor duckling was very grateful and lay down to get some much-needed rest. But at that very moment two shots rang out, and two wild geese fell down dead in the marsh. A hunter had shot them, and the ugly duckling was frightened almost to death. He bent down and put his head under his wing until the gunshots stopped. When they did, it began to rain, and soon it was pouring. But the duckling didn't care. He had to get away. So he half run and half flew over many fields and meadows, though he was drenche by the storm. At last he came to a miserable little shack that seemed to remain standing only because it didn't know which way to tumble down. The door hung open crookedly, and the duckling slipped in out of the rain. Inside he found a woman with a pet cat named Sonnie and a pet hen who, because of her little legs, was called Chickabiddy-Shortshanks. The ugly duckling fell asleep at once and no one noticed him. But in the morning the cat purred and the hen clucked and the woman said "what's the matter?" Her eyesight wasn't very good and she thought, "Maybe this is a rare prize duck who will lay eggs for me." "Can you lay eggs?" the hen asked. "No," replied the duckling. "Can you purr and arch your back?" asked the cat. "No." "Then what can you do?" they wanted to know. "I can swim," exclaimed the ugly duckling. "It's delightful to dive into the water and feel it all around you." "You must be crazy," said the cat and the hen. And the duckling went. He swam and dived and ran and flew but everyone gave him the cold shoulder because he was so ugly. At last summer was over and autumn came with leaves turning brown and whirling in the chilly wind. The duckling was miserable indeed all alone in the cold cruel world. But one evening, just as the sun was setting, he saw coming out of the bushes a flock of handsome white swans with long graceful necks. They spread their wings and, with a strange cry, rose higher and higher as they flew to warmer regions. The ugly duckling thought he had never seen such beautiful creatures before. How he admired them! He would have been happy indeed if they had so much as noticed him. But they did not. They flew south, not even seeing the ugly duckling in the freezing lake. And soon it was winter and the lake froze over holding the duckling fast. What a terrible night that was for the poor creature! He almost froze to death. But early the next morning a farmer passing by broke the ice, lifted the duckling out, and took him home. The duckling soon came to himself again as the farmers children played with him. But he was so frightened at these strange surroundings that he fluttered into the milk-pan, spilling milk all over the place. The farmer's wife was annoyed by this and the duckling, frightened out of it's wits, flew first into the butter tub and then into the flour- barrel. What a sight he was! The woman struck out at him with the fire-tongs while the children laughed and screamed and tumbled all over each other trying to cat h him. Luckily for him the door was open and he was able to slip out. He lay behind a bush in the snow and stayed there until the winter was over. But at last it grew warm and sunny. Birds sang and buds swelled. It was spring! All at once the duckling found he could flap his wings, and one day he found himself in a beautiful garden where sweet-scented blossoming trees bent down to the water Suddenly three glorious white swans appeared ruffling their feathers as they swam lightly across the water. The ugly duckling gazing at the beautiful birds, thought to himself, "If I dare go near them, they will kill me because I am so ugly. But I don't care. Better to be killed by these beautiful creatures than to be bitten by ducks and hen , or kicked by the poultry-girl, or starve in the winter." So he dived into the water and swam out to the swans. "Kill me!" cried the poor creature, bending his head down to the water. But what was this he saw reflected in the clear water? It was his own image! For the first time he saw himself as he really was. And, to his utter amazement, he saw that he was not an ugly duckling- or a duckling at all-but a swan-a beautiful white swan! You see, a bird who comes a swan's egg is a swan even if the egg happens to be hatched by a duck, and ducks think that no one is pretty except a duck. They think anyone who doesn't look like a duck is ugly, even the most beautiful swan. But now the "ugly duckling" knew why he had felt so much love for the beautiful swans, and he knew he was as beautiful himself as they were. The swans recognized him too, as one of them, and they swam around him stroking him with their beaks. By and by some children came down to the lake to throw breadcrumbs to the swans. "Look!" cried the youngest. "There's a beautiful new white swan!" And the other children shouted happily, "Yes, he is the most beautiful one of all!" Of course the swan who had been considered an ugly duckling was very happy. But he never became vain or conceited. He always remembered how it felt to be despised and teased, and he was very sorry for all the creatures who are so treated merely because they are different from the people around them. But now that he was appreciated at last, he rustled his wings, lifted his slender neck, and sighed happily, "To think that this joy should come to one who has always been considered an ugly duckling! It's almost to good to be true." The End

I forwarded a copy of this to Jon for approval. Very cool, Doug. That was fast!

The Hare and The Tortoise Once there was a Hare who used to laugh scornfully at a Tortoise because he plodded along so slowly. "You never can get anywhere with those short legs of yours. Look at my long legs! They're so swift no one would dare race me." All the animals of field and forest were tired of hearing the Hare brag. At last the Tortoise said, "If we were to run a race, I'm sure I would beat you." The animals were astonished for they knew the Tortoise was the slowest of them all, and the Hare, bursting into loud laughter, cried, "What a joke! That slowpoke thinks he can beat me! Come on, Mr. Tortoise, you shall see what my feet are made of. Why I can beat you before you are even half-started!" "You'd better not be too sure," cautioned the Tortoise/ All the big and little animals gathered to watch the race. At the signal the Hare leaped forward in a great bound and soon left the plodding Tortoise far behind him on the dusty road. Looking back, the Hare could not even see the Tortoise after a little while. "Hum-m, I've as good as won this race already," the thought, "There's really no reason to hurry." So, as the sun was very warm, he decided to rest a bit under a shady tree. "I'll come in away ahead of that Tortoise, anyhow," he told himself. Soon he was sound asleep. the little rest streched into a good long nap. Meantime, the Tortoise jogged steadily along on the hot, dusty road, ever so slowly, but surely, and soon he passed the Hare who was still peacefully sleeping. Quietly the Tortoise plodded on nearing the goal. When the Hare finally woke up with a start, he saw the Tortoise just reaching the finish line far ahead and he could hear all the animals cheering the winner. Boastful and careless, the Hare had lost the race. Now he would never again be able to count on his speed. Moral of the story: Perseverance wins the race

Terry, do you have some URL's that show interactive style you like?

I do but not right here that I can get at right now, yahoo has some great pointers to childrens stories on the net, try doing some searching and see what's out there and then post the url's here. Then we can possibly contact some of these folks about carrying their content on children's story.

Jonathon wants three things of Mary, Doug, myself and our team. He discussed these with Mary. He feels like we're behind schedule. 1. He wants the Mary Cavanaugh logo above Childrens Story. 2. He wants the real audio recording of Mary on the front page. 3. He wants more stories, including a new interactive story. Actually, he wants a fourth thing: he wants the site proofed for errors and he wants gentler versions of the childrens stories. Some of them are a bit harsh by the standards they want to meet. He wants it done today, or Sunday at the latest. He's look at the site several times a day hoping to see some changes. What do we anticipate charging him for doing these things and who is doing what piece?

index.html permission denied... can not upload to files in childrens story I have access but not permission

Then upload to your personal directory and email me when you do and I'll move them. In the meantime, I'll fix it so you can ftp directly.

OK I fixed it: >What is the command to give users access to their dedicated websites for >ftp purposes? For example, with the user jonathon and the website tvpc.com? Edit /etc/group and create a group containing all of the users that need to modify the web site, then type: chgrp -R group /path/to/web/directory chmod -R g+w /path/to/web/directory find /path/to/web/directory -type d -print | xargs chmod g+ws where 'group' is the name of the group you create, and '/path/to/web/directory' is the directory where the tvpc.com, for instance, web pages are stored. The user can then log in or use ftp to write into these directories. chgrp -R realaudio /var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com chmod -R g+w /var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com find /var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com -type d -print | xargs chmod g+ws Test it out Doug.

Still waiting for Mary M, Sharon and Laura to check in here. I spoke to Mary this morning and she said she would be checking in. I helped Sharon get her account set up and she may be checking in to her topic. Abram checked in earlier today. Hopefully, we'll all start touching base here soon and this will become an effective project integration/managment tool.

Doug and I will be getting more children stories typed. I am not able to check from home, since my system is not working to get connected to my provider, and at work I cannot spare much time, so all the items I do will be given to Doug. thanks, Laura

What's it going to take to get you connected from home Laura, your provider is io?

Hi, here's another entry since I'm not certain what happened to the one I had just begun! Wonders of electronics. Children's site is much improved. Thanks, Doug and Laura. I am working on Sheri's project, and cannot get a Grusendorf file from the URL she gave me in her FAX. Will have to talk to her or her contact tomorrow.

I fixed a few small things today but have not yet seen the audio file. I will deal with it then I have to spend some time on my Threadgill's acct. this week but will have time for posting more work on http://www.childrenstory.com

Paul, Let's set up a Glaze Studio project. I would like to add one audio file and link in laura's new pages to Glaze ( http://www.io.com/~larue ) as well as doing this for various artists we write about in capcity.possibly work on this in a week or so after... ya know all these things.

You can co-ordinate with tedchong@spring.com with the realaudio server stuff. Also, we're getting Chris Spurgeon to build a Realvideo server as soon as I find out about Progressive networks upgrade policy.

Terry, I am goint to try to check all the information with a friend of mine over the phone tonight. BTW, the last page on the interactive story on childrenstory shows back to HOME page, but when you click on it, it takes you to file not found. Same thing with the button saying, do you want another interactive story? You may also want to add the links on some of the pages on type, for people who do not have computers supporting graphics. Laura

Laura you have hit on the single most important thing on our site right now, to replace the example interactive story with another interactive story. We can get one by surfing the net and finding one and asking permission to use it. Or we can create one from scratch. It would probably fit in better with Jonathon's zero tolerance for waiting time schedule to surf around and find one that we could get permission to use. Is this something you would be willing to undertake? Text links are also a fine idea, especially for the benefit of blind and sight disabled folks.

Some priorities Jonathon has for the site, based on a phone conversation tonight: fix Puss 'n Boots text fix language in Rose Red (eg. "hussy") we need at least two nursery rhymes we need to grab a lot of stories from yahooligans site (arp soup) we need to put up a bunch of fairy tales Mary, will you please post the current scope of work that we're doing for Jonathon and what he expects for the amount we have quoted him. What of the above falls under this and what do we need to talk to him about as supplemental work? I talked to Doug about some of these things but just missed Sharon and Mary heading out the door at Mary's place. We're getting closer to all getting on the same page and keeping our customers happy. Participating in this projects conference is crucial as a mechanism for keeping everyone in our workgroup informed and not letting any aspects of this "fall through the cracks".

will do!

I just put cs.ra in /usr/var/www/rafiles on www.spring.com This is Mary Canaugh's introductory text. We can add this to the site now Doug. Ask Ted Chong for details on teh realaudio server mechanism.

I have re-worked the 1st page slightly as well as other links , home links etc. I added a new story, The hare and the Tortoise. We have four more stories, including a nursery rhyme. I will add clip art to those were it is suitable.

Mary Minter, project manager for this, needs to post a statement of deliverables and a projected deadline. Mary, can we please have this today. This needs to be a comprehensive statement of what we're delivering and when we'll be done with this phase one and we need to *quickly* move to put toghter a statement of deliverables and an action plan (who does what) for the next 7 days so the site can be ready for webtv's main page.

How about a what's changed page for the childrenstory site Doug, which details chronologically what has changed and what is new? That would also serve as a record of your work. Any luck with the Mary Cavanaugh audio file? any qeustions about this. What do we lack on this site?

Mary assures me we will have a statement of deliverables soon. And either she'll post it here or I'll post it here if she emails it. I have tohave this by tonight at 7 pm because I plan on getting all this done tonight for a Friday billing.

1) "Mary Cavanaugh" added to the logo. 2) Adding audio file as intro. 3) New stories with graphics (Doug to note total) TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR ABOVE TO BE BILLED = $400 to Glaze Studio (Doug and Laura) 4) Research and account management by Mary = $250 5) Spring.com services = ? (Paul to add) TOTAL INVOICE = $850

The Spring's charge is $200 which is the unallotted portion above. It will be an additional $325 to install upgrade to the Realaudio Server. Doug, willyou submit and itemized list of the new stuff on the site that you've done and what you plan to do under the current statement of deliverables and what you can do under the next statement of deliverables?

Originally, I thought Jonathon approved $800, has the additional $50 been approved by him Mary?

Mary, please itemize as detailed as possible everything that you've done on this project so I can include this stuff in the invoice.

Laura & I did the research that was used, that should be added to our total.

Glaze Studio 1st Statement: Research and trancription of 3 new stories = 3.25hrs @ 40.00/hr 130.00 Fairy tale-Ugly Duck, rhyme -3 lil Kittens, Fairy tale the wind & the Sun Design & production: 1hr. @ 75.00/hr. 75.00 "Mary Cavanaugh" title art Html Design & Production 65.00/hr. 195.00 Total for 1st invoice 400.00

Let us know when your part is complete and I'll invoice Jonathon.

Free Samples... Sample Illustrations: duckling spot illus the first illus. located on the ugly duck story is a 50.00 image The second image, the swan at the bottom of the page is 75.00 ea. Larger images that are more involved will be estimated by their description.

It is complete now Terry. we are very close to being ready for a second invoice

Html design work completed for second invoice: reworking of all intro pages, things like aligning text, removing spaces, repositioning graphics, adding graphic links to ad pages from the rhymes intro page and the interactive stories page, consistancy throughout, corrected the interactive stories intro page by continuing the CS.com style and adding the tugboat graphic and the real audio link. I also created the "tortoise & hare" title graphic and added clipart to the page. I will post the finished html pages of the new fairy tales today sometime. Laura came up with an idea for an interactive Alphabet story that is very promissing, more on that soon. Music sounds better now is it changing slightly. The middle of the song is more fun and bouncy! I also created the tortoise & hare graphic and added clipart to the page

I haven't checked yet and don't have a sound card here, is the Mary Cavanaugh voiceover working?

Check out yahooligans, everyone. http://www.yahooligans.com/Art_Soup/Books_and_Reading/Stories/Interactive_Stories/ is a possible source for interactive stories, fairy tales, etc. and there is supposed to be free text that we can grab there too, according to Jonathon.

The Mary Cavanaugh recording is not working. I've asked Jonathon for another one. Jackpot! gopher://ftp.std.com/11/obi/book/Fairy.Tales/Grimm

jackpot again! http://itpubs.ucdavis.edu/richard/tales/links.html

And another great source for content: http://www.yahooligans.com/Art_Soup/Books_and_Reading/Stories/

Terry, Which site do we have the OK from to swipe stories?

None yet. Except the public domain stuff on yahooligans. These are text only versions.

Just checking in we will need to invoice again soon. When can I expect to see any payment on the first invoice? Just wondering, I/m not trying to hurry you.

I'm hoping we can all get paid for the first round next week and get approval for another round of work. Since we didn't actaully get approval as I had thought for the first round, I still have to do that and make sure Jonathon is satisfied with the work that is done and that we have met his expectations.

come over tonite Terry, and bring some chineese food. not too spicy now! call me if can make it 219-1433

Terry, I have a new client whom I think you may want to meet, We have invited him over for dinner and I would like you to come also, How about Thursday?? Let me know

Sure, sounds good.

What did you think of the award spring has won from capitol city?

Thurs. about 8pm for dinner. Any word from Jonathan?

He's on vacation till the 5th, we won't hear from him till then. Thursday dinner is ok.

I have added the Wind & The Sun as well as two others that we did and were holding off on uploading till the first invoice went through. They are already in the file so what the hey I dont want to do more work to pull them out. Lion & The Mouse and Fox & the Stork. The latter two will be added to the 2nd invoice. We have several other stories we can add at any time after we get paid for the 1st & 2nd invoice. You should allow me to speek with Jonathan to help solidify his confidence. We are way ahead on work that we have already done. As I have said in past postings to this conference we have done a bunch of invisible site managment improvements, ie, correcting broken links or poorly designed layout and link flow through on interactives etc. as well as adding original art and new story content. We have done much more than is currently invoiced so as long as he is aware that this work has been done he should have no problem paying us. We have to make him expressly aware of every single change and addition so he understands how much work has already been done and will continue to be done for him. Waiting for approvals and not communicating all that has been done will continually slow down the growth of this site. We should set up a deal with him for xxx.xx dollars per month for site growth were he can expect a certain amount of work to be done reguardless of what exactly is done. He pays and we report the work on a monthly basis. Th s way he is never out more than is expected and he is never paying a big chunk up front. (no more than one months worth of expected work)

Where are you Terry, I have paged you several times over the last week to no avail. Whats up??

My pager is on the blitz. You can call me if you like. I'm home nearly every evening.

What is your home #? I cant find it.

I added the http://www.childrenstory.com/tales/unicorn/unipage.html Crystals and Unicorns story and linked it from the front page.

I have a small paying gig for someone. Get our childrenstory logo on webtv. We already have a link to childrenstory from webtv under their favorite websites. We need our little dog with the bouncing ball logo there. That would be "way cool". Moolah for webbed type work! Who will take on this project?

more info? paying gigs are a good thing when you're as skint as I am :)

Email the webtv folks and find out how you get custom icons on their web favorites section when you tune in to their web tv site. We need to get our childrenstory icon on there. Or maybe they have a developer section at http://www.webtv.com ??? When you log on to Web TV you get a few choices and one of them is to look at sites *they* have picked out as cool. We happen to be one. And cs (childrenstory) is in the childrens section on reading or stories or something. We are just a dumb looking generic logo now and we have this cool little puppy dog with an animated ball we'd like to be. Much cooler! It's going to take some digging to find out. But it would be a big help.

um..slow down. spell out exactly what you want doing (in non-US speak :) and i'll go digging.

Need to find the place where children's story is on webtv, have someone with webtv show you, it's under favorites. And you'll see what I mean.

ymmm...i have a feeling that we haven't even got WebTV over here yet :)

yep, because it is definately not gettable-to from the web alone...

Maybe the answer is here: http://developer.webtv.net/docs/faq/Default.htm

What is the WebTV Viewer? The WebTV Viewer is a free program for your PC or Macintosh that lets you browse the Web in a similar way to the WebTV experience. (The WebTV Viewer reproduces layout changes caused by the way WebTV displays your pages, but not TV side effects such as blurry, small text in graphics.) Web developers can use the WebTV Viewer to check their Web sites for problems and to preview Web pages under development. You can download the WebTV Viewer for free from http://developer.webtv.net/.

They also have a forum where I posted a question about this. Maybe another developer will come along and answer this.

aha...i'll check out that URL terry

This is Donna S. Atwood's work (bratwood@well.com) She's offered to do some stuff with us.