Genetics and the Human Animal
Topic 31 · 14 responses · archived october 2000
~wolf
Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (19:19)
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Here's the place to discuss geneticism and the human species like cloning, body shops, etc.
~MarciaH
Fri, Oct 22, 1999 (17:17)
#1
...as if we did not do enough damage to the insides of our children, we
are inventing a way to make them more discontented with their bodies.
This is NOT what the Creator intended, I think!
~riette
Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (13:33)
#2
Gene-manipulation is wonderful thing to help with illnesses, but a dreadful thing as soon as human vanity gets involved ...
~MarciaH
Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (15:25)
#3
Makes me wonder if there should not be a panel of arbitors to oversee what is being contemplated...but they are subject to greed just as their scientific counterparts are. Divine intervention? There MUST be some limits put on things like this, lest vanity take over and we create the monster who will eventually kill the creator.
~riette
Tue, Oct 26, 1999 (04:02)
#4
I'm sure the appropriate laws will be created - and then violated.
~patas
Tue, Oct 26, 1999 (18:24)
#5
In my country they are already being discussed - not that we will clone anything in the present millenium!
~MarciaH
Tue, Oct 26, 1999 (20:39)
#6
I am sure it is not only being conducted sub rosa but the profits are being laundered as we speak somewhere in this greed-driven world. America, for all its purtianism, is not above any of that ugly business.
~riette
Wed, Oct 27, 1999 (03:19)
#7
A side-effect of capitalism.
~MarciaH
Wed, Oct 27, 1999 (16:22)
#8
...or testosterone poisoning..or both!
~wolf
Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (12:18)
#9
from msn news:
PPL THERAPEUTICS, which cloned Dolly three years ago, said today that five
healthy piglets were born March 5 in Blacksburg, Va. They were cloned from an
adult sow using a slightly different technique than the one that produced
Dolly. Independent tests of the DNA of the piglets � named Millie, Christa,
Alexis, Carrel and Dotcom � confirmed they were clones of the sow, the company
said. Scientists have been studying pigs for several years as potential organ
donors for people. The cloning might hold out hope that pigs could be
genetically engineered so that their organs or cells would be more readily
accepted by the human body, making them more easily transplantable. �I think this is a big step forward they�ve made. I applaud it,� said Dr. Fritz Bach of
Harvard Medical School, who studies genetic and immunological aspects of
transplants from animals to people. Genetic engineering is one potential
benefit, Bach said. In addition, scientists could simply clone pigs that prove
exceptionally well-suited for transplants to humans, he said. But Bach stressed
that ethical issues about animal-to-human transplants, mainly the risk of
introducing new germs to humans, must be solved before such procedures are
done. Imutran, a Cambridge, England-based company that is pursuing similar
research, called PPL�s announcement �interesting news.� �It is potentially a
useful technology to develop new lines of pigs for (transplant),� the company
said. �However, the next step is to see if the technology can be applied to
developing genetically modified animals whose organs can be transplanted into
humans without being rejected.� PPL, based in Edinburgh, Scotland, said
transplantation of genetically altered pig organs could be tested on humans in
four years and that analysts believe the market for them could be worth $6
billion. PPL scientists plan to try to �knock out� a gene responsible for
incorporating in pig cells a sugar group recognized by the human immune system
as foreign. The gene triggers an immune response in the human body, prompting
it to reject the organ. Three new genes would then be introduced into the pig
cells, and the transplant patient would receive a blood transfusion containing
modified cells taken from the pig supplying the organ. Scientists hope this
process will reduce long-term rejection of the transplanted organ. �All the
known technical hurdles have been overcome,� said Ron James, PPL�s managing
director. �It is now a case of combining the various strategies into one male
and one female pig and breeding from these.� The idea of using animal organs
for transplant, known as xenotransplantation, is controversial because some
believe diseases could cross from pigs to humans. But scientists are excited
by the prospect of using animal organs for transplant because of the shortage
of human organs. Many people die while waiting for a transplant, and experts
hope that pigs will be able to provide a steady supply of organs. �An end to
the chronic organ shortage is now in sight,� James said. The names of the
first cloned piglets each have their own significance. Millie was named for the
millennium. Christa, Alexis and Carrel were named after Dr. Christiaan
Barnard, who performed the first human heart transplant, and Dr. Alexis
Carrel, who won the Nobel prize in 1912 for his work in the field of
transplantation. And as for Dotcom ... �Any association with dotcoms right now
seems to have a very positive influence on a company�s valuation,� said James.
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published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
so what do you think?
~MarciaH
Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (13:03)
#10
I think those little piggies are NOT going to market! I don't have a problem with it. I hope one day they will be able to clone organs which will allow children to live full and happy lives.
~wolf
Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (17:22)
#11
me too.
~MarciaH
Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (17:36)
#12
I need to give you big hugs....
* hugs *
~wolf
Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (17:39)
#13
aw, thanks, marcia!
~MarciaH
Wed, Mar 15, 2000 (19:03)
#14
*grin*