Namibia
Topic 36 · 149 responses · archived october 2000
~riette
Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (02:13)
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~riette
Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (02:14)
#1
Marcia, I have the first picture that I want to post. Could I send it to you to put in? PLEEEZE?
~mrchips
Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (06:10)
#2
Congratulations, Ree. Namibia now has a place in our collective consciousness.
~terry
Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (10:38)
#3
Wow, my lovely virtual wife has posted a topic about Namibia, I love it, I
love it, I love it.
~riette
Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (13:24)
#4
Yeah! You'll love it even more when I show you all the lovely Himba women!
~terry
Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (14:34)
#5
Bring them on without delay, please.
~MarciaH
Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (16:44)
#6
Ree, you may send me anything without asking first - just put where you want it posted and it will be done with great pleasure!
~MarciaH
Tue, Sep 21, 1999 (16:47)
#7
John, do you think I need to start one about Hawaii - or have we spread it throughout the rest of the Spring ad nauseum already?
~riette
Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (04:18)
#8
YYYYYEEEEAAAAHHH!
~terry
Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (07:54)
#9
Please, if there isn't a HI topic in travel, please create one! That's a
serious omission if there isn't one.
~MarciaH
Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (11:16)
#10
This is how the Namib Desert looks just after sunrise...Ree Walton
~MarciaH
Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (11:20)
#11
How incredibly spectacular! Watching this download for the first time is awesome. Thanks, Ree...You send, I'll post!
~stacey
Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (11:46)
#12
woow!
That's amazing... a red river of glowing sand...
~riette
Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (12:58)
#13
I really is amazing. Also, when you look at how small the dunes beneath appear, you'll get a good idea of how high the dune I was standing on is. It is called Dune 7, and it is the only dune in the Namib which is too big to shift. And imagine this: every time you manage to drag yourself all the way up that old monster, you see a completely different dune pattern beneath.
~stacey
Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (13:56)
#14
*giggle*
yes Ree-head, you really are amazing!
and lookit you... coming out of your shy shell and all!
~mrchips
Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (15:22)
#15
Totally amazing! I thought it was taken from an airplane. Not only is it beautiful, but I must add my compliments to the photog as well. There's nothing like an artist's perspective! That photo is worthy of National Geographic.
~terry
Wed, Sep 22, 1999 (23:30)
#16
What is the ethnic makeup of Namibia? What are the tribes?
~riette
Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (04:03)
#17
WHHHOOOOOOPPPPSS!! Sorry, no that was really not meant as an 'I'!
Marcia, the photo was an accident, really! Normally they don't look anything like that!
The biggest tribe is the Ovambo, followed by the Oshivambo who live mostly up north in the Caprivi strip. Then you get the Hereros and the Himbas who live in the central parts. The other tribes are pretty small. You get the Kalahari Bushmen, the Namas, the Damaras, the Hottentots, and some other tribes as well - I just can't think of all the names now. I'll try and find pictures.
~terry
Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (09:14)
#18
What are the major industries? Companies?
~MarciaH
Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (12:30)
#19
From Ree: This is Isa on an ostrich farm just outside the town where my mum lives. The farm is called 'Ombu' - the Herero word for ostrich.
~mrchips
Fri, Sep 24, 1999 (16:32)
#20
That's really cute! Is that in the Kalahari? I know the man feeding the ostrich is not a bushman, but it sure looks like desert land.
~riette
Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (02:54)
#21
That is one of the densest parts of the country!!! It's the savannah. The guy feeding the ostrich is a Herero; he was brilliant showing her how to feed them, and in the end she got to ride one! I'll try and find that photo as well.
~mrchips
Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (07:50)
#22
Cool. Ostrich jockey, eh?
~terry
Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (09:18)
#23
What's your record in ostrich racing, ree?
~riette
Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (02:35)
#24
I managed to stay on for about 20 strides - then it threw me like no horse has ever managed. The bad thing is, you can't stay down and feel your limbs to see if anything is broken, and whether everything is moving; you have to get up and RUN, 'cos ostriches have a nasty little habit of kicking the $hit out of one.
~terry
Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (10:06)
#25
I was just joking, but you really did ride an ostrich. I wish I had a
picture of that.
~riette
Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (12:45)
#26
Don't - it was not a pretty sight! And broken ribs would be all you'd see on the picture; apart from my crying like a baby!!! ha-ha!!
~mrchips
Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (01:55)
#27
WHY AMERICANS SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO TRAVEL
The following are actual stories provided by travel agents:
I had someone ask for an aisle seat so that their hair wouldn't get messed up by being near the window.
A client called in inquiring about a package to Hawaii. After going over all the cost info, she asked, "Would it be cheaper to fly to California and then take the train to Hawaii?"
A man called, furious about a Florida package we did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in Orlando. He said he was expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain that is not possible, since Orlando is in the middle of the state. He replied, "Don't lie to me. I looked on the map and Florida is a very thin state."
I got a call from a man who asked, "Is it possible to see England from Canada?" I said, "No." He said "But they look so close on the map."
A nice lady just called. She needed to know how it was possible that her flight from Detroit left at 8:20am and got into Chicago at 8:33am. I tried to explain that Michigan was an hour ahead of Illinois, but she could not understand the concept of time zones. Finally I told her the plane went very fast, and she bought that!
I just got off the phone with a man who asked, "How do I know which plane to get on?" I asked him what exactly he meant, which he replied, "I was told my flight number is 823, but none of these darn planes have numbers on them."
A business man called and had a question about the documents he needed in order to fly to China. After a lengthy discussion about passports, I reminded him he needed a visa. "Oh no I don't, I've been to China many times and never had to have one of those." I double checked and sure enough, his stay required a visa. When I told him this he said, "Look, I've been to China four times and every time they have accepted my American Express."
~riette
Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (13:03)
#28
ha-ha!!! You are echoeing all over the place, Mr Burnett!
~mrchips
Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (13:56)
#29
Yes, I am. I've seen these people and cringe when I do. But I understand that's only part of what gives Americans such a bad name in other nations.
~MarciaH
Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (14:09)
#30
See, Ree...there are Stupid tourists all over - not just bothering the National Park Service Rangers (as in "is this island completely surrounded by water?").
I've seen 'um too...!
~mrchips
Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (15:05)
#31
Marcia, did you really hear a dolt ask that?
~MarciaH
Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (15:15)
#32
..a dolt adult...and David actually was asked that very question...followed by
"Is it the same ocean on the other side of the island?"
~riette
Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (12:54)
#33
HA! Brilliant! I did a really stupid tourist thing in Manchester this time though. I spent my last 2 days in a little hotel on the far side of the Whitworth gallery. I wanted to go into town, so I got on the bus and asked the driver if he was going to the city centre. He nodded. So I asked what the name of the stop was where I had to get of. And he looked at me with that 'DUH!'-look on his face. Then I knew what the name of the stop was!
~MarciaH
Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (18:48)
#34
It could have been some street name...that was a perfectly legitimate
question. I might also have asked...!
~mrchips
Wed, Sep 29, 1999 (21:50)
#35
Some bus drivers have absolutely no compassion for out-of-towners who ask perfectly legitimate questions. Sounds like the stereotype of the snooty and condescending French waiter. Of course, I'd be pissed, too, if people called me "Garcon" all day.
~autumn
Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (18:02)
#36
Neat topic, Riette!
~riette
Mon, Oct 4, 1999 (08:57)
#37
THanks, Autumn! I need to put in more photos though. I'm just so damned lazy...
~MarciaH
Mon, Oct 4, 1999 (18:24)
#38
Scan'um and I'll post'um!!!
~sociolingo
Thu, Oct 14, 1999 (13:45)
#39
Ree, have you checked out africa.com. They're running a special on Namibia right now, and I thought of you.
~riette
Wed, Oct 20, 1999 (06:03)
#40
THANKS, Maggie!! Fabulous!
~aschuth
Thu, Oct 21, 1999 (11:20)
#41
How was it?
~MarciaH
Thu, Oct 21, 1999 (12:16)
#42
africa.com is a very interesting and informative web site. Thanks, Maggie, for telling us about it!
~riette
Thu, Oct 21, 1999 (13:28)
#43
Where IS Maggie?
~terry
Tue, Oct 26, 1999 (09:16)
#44
What did you think of the Namibia coverage on that site, Ree Ree?
~riette
Tue, Oct 26, 1999 (09:43)
#45
To be honest I didn't look at it in detail - it seemed to mention all the popular places. I paid more attention to the countries that I still want to visit, like Egypt, Tanzania and Kenya. Most of all I want to go to Na�robi and from there do a 8-10 day safari; I've always wanted to see the Kilimandjaro (how does one say it in English?) for real. Just imagine this huge Alp lost somewhere in the middle of nowhere in Africa. It must be like a dream come true.
~terry
Tue, Oct 26, 1999 (13:24)
#46
When are you going back to Africa next?
~MarciaH
Tue, Oct 26, 1999 (22:45)
#47
Ree, the only place I have seen Maggie post other than once on one of my topics in the past few weeks was on Phinished conference - she is laboring to complete her degree, and we may just no hear from her till she thinks she has that part finished to her (and her professors') satisfaction! We wish her well!
~riette
Wed, Oct 27, 1999 (03:04)
#48
Defenitely. GOOD LUCK, Maggie!
Terry, early December I'm going to London with Chris as a sort of birthday present (it's my favourite city in the world), but somehow I also have to manage a stopover in Glasgow to deliver a painting to the Scot who commissioned it for his new house. AFter that I've got a Cyprus trip planned for February; I was there 5 years ago, and have always wanted to go back to show the girls. So, that's what we're going to do next. In about May or so I want to take a long weekend sometime to go to London with
sa - a mummy-big-girl thing, to go see a musical together, because she's a music/dance nut. And in June or July a train journey to friends in Germany, because Elza loves trains. That means we'll probably be in Africa late summer or early autumn when the year's studies have been completed.
Have you got any trips planned for the next year?
~sociolingo
Wed, Oct 27, 1999 (14:33)
#49
Hi I'm back! Thanks for the concern. Yes, I am laboring on the thesis. Ree, I'm working on some Namibia data right now. Once it's in a decent state I'll send you a copy for your comments. I'm doing an overview on the language situation in sub_Saharan Africa and the languages used in education - a massive table! But there's also a couple of Namibia papers I've been working on.
Sounds like you've got some fun travelling to do Ree! I always wanted to go to Cyprus.
~riette
Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (05:32)
#50
I'd love to read your work on Namibia, that would be very interesting. But the stuff on sub-Saharan Africa and the languages would interest me a great deal as well - that is, if YOU don't mind. I love learning languages, and finding context in and around them, as well their history and the way they evolve continuously. It's just fascinating.
~terry
Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (09:03)
#51
What languages are you fluent in Reehead?
~riette
Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (12:59)
#52
Afrikaans, English, German, Flemish, Dutch. The last 2 don't count though, because it doesn't take much to learn them when you know Afrikaans and German.
I speak some Herero, but it's slowly going, because I never practice it anymore. I also know a little zulu from when I visited the Ndebele artists (all women) of the Natal in South AFrica - that's a REALLY beautiful language. I'm trying to locate a zulu person here who can teach me more, but so far haven't had ANY luck. Nama is also a very nice language, with a rather erotic way of expressing things - I know a little of that. Next year I'll be studying Latin as part of my Law course, and that I'm alr
ady working on. It's great, and a language that I WANT to become fluent in. And I want to learn Greek.
How about you? Do you like languages, Terry, or are you more a person for numbers? I wonder why people who are good in languages are normally not SO good in numbers and vice versa.
~sociolingo
Thu, Oct 28, 1999 (14:13)
#53
Wow! I'm impressed Ree! I'm trying to work on my French right now so I can feel more comfortable in Mali next year. I find it so difficult to learn languages out of context. They also seem to disappear if I'm not using them. I never did learn Latin at school, but I think I'd find it really hard because it's abstract rather than concrete. In the sense that I can't hear it everyday, and just have to learn lists of words. I tried that with Greek which I did a year of at college and had a really hard tim
learning lists of words. Maybe I just have a memory problem!!!
In the table I've just done Namibia (to my surprise!!) came out as the most linguistically diverse in sub-Saharan Africa using the formula of 'largest language group as a percentage of the total population'. My listing has 28 languages for Namibia! That's just to whet your appetite - more later.
~terry
Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (13:26)
#54
How embarassing. All I know is a tiny bit of high school French. Hey,
but Ree Ree didnt' list French in her list so I feel a little better. I
think you have to travel and use languages to learn them.
~MarciaH
Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (13:39)
#55
Some Hawaiian, more Spanish but not enough, and a few words in Japanese, Welsh (I can read it more than I can ever hope to speak it)...but like most Americans I am monolingual...*sigh*
~MarciaH
Fri, Oct 29, 1999 (13:42)
#56
Terry, I think if each state in the US spoke a different language, we would be better linguists. In Europe that is the case and they have to learn amost by osmosis if they move about the continent at all. How lovely that must be! Gi speaks several languages, as well as writes in them proficiently.
~riette
Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (01:30)
#57
That's right. If one grows up with alot of different languages around, then learning them is just something you DO - you don't think about it. And that's the key to learning languages, I think; you mustn't think it, you must feel it. In Namibia EVERYBODY speaks at least 2 or 3 languages - most people (especially the black people) speak more. With people who grow up in countries where only one language dominates it must be far more difficult to develop an ear for languages - therefore one has to rely he
vily on memory when learning a new language, and that must be pretty tricky, I imagine. Also pronunciation must be so much more difficult when your ear is not accustomed to unfamiliar forms of speech. When I learn a new language now the vocabulary and pronunciation comes really quickly, because for most words I can find a word with a similar meaning in another language, and with a sound that can remind me of how the new word will sound - and so make an association without much effort at all. Even now
with Latin.
Terry, you're right: I don't speak French. I like the language, but everybody learns French and German and Italian and so on. I know only ordinary sorts of languages; I've decided taht from now on I only want to learn more unusual ones.
~terry
Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (04:07)
#58
But I would imagine picking up French would be a breeze for you.
~sociolingo
Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (10:21)
#59
Did you learn a click language Ree? We used a few Xhosa and Zulu words in phonetics - even learnt a Zulu click song.
~riette
Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (13:01)
#60
Oh, the famous Miriam Makeba song! I love that one, and she is one of my favourite singers. Zulu is SUCH a musical language that all the clicks just happen in rhythm. I don't know any Xhosa though. The most fascinating click language is Bushman though. I don't know it, but have heard it alot, and a bushman girl told me that how the click is pronounced also determines the meaning.
The Namas and Khoikhois also speak a click lanuage. Nama is very earthy and quite sensual. They live in the Namib desert and in the spring they go and dig in the sand for !Naras (! is how they write their clicks, whereas the Bushmen use ! or #). A !Nara is is a type of wild melon, with thorns on its skin, and they use the sweet-tasting pulp, which has a strong herbal smell and taste, to make soup, sweets, jam and even pancakes with. Often they also dry the seeds in the sun and sell it to dealers in to
ns on the coast, who export them as a delicacy. Well, in their tribal culture, they have a song of praise that they sing to the !Nara around the fire at night before going out to look for them in the morning. I can't quite remember the words, but in English it goes something like this:
You round food
With many thorns
You many-breasted
Foster mother of our children
Even if I am far away
I will think of you
You food of my ancestors
I will never forget you.
I think it is a beautiful way of expressing the significance of the fruit in their tribal existence.
~MarciaH
Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (15:14)
#61
It is beautiful. Hawaiian has chants to the food (and gods responsible for providing them)are almost as eloquent. Perhaps John could reel one off for us when he is finished his radio program today... I do not have any handy and am not sure where in this library of mine I might find one.
~sociolingo
Sat, Oct 30, 1999 (16:16)
#62
Interesting! I don't know Miriam Makeba and although we can 'sing' the song I don't know what it means!!! (dangerous that!) It's been passed on by one generation of phonetics students to another - so it's probably corrupted! (chinese whispers). I've not heard of that kind of melon. Have you tried it?
~riette
Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (12:41)
#63
Yes, the !Nara also grew on my grandfather's farm. It needs almost no water to grow. The taste is indeed a strong, herbal one, but we used to peel it, stick in the freezer for a few hours, then put sugar on before eating it. VERY refreshing when you hit 42�C.
~sociolingo
Sun, Oct 31, 1999 (16:52)
#64
mmm sounds nice.
~riette
Mon, Nov 1, 1999 (13:14)
#65
It sure is. Except if you confuse it with a wild watermelon - which is more bitter than ANYTHING one can imagine. Once I picked up a wild watermelon in the field, thinking it was a !Nara, because they look pretty much the same. It was hot, I had no more water, so I made a hole in the skin, and started to drink the juice. I literally couldn't breathe, and started gasping - that's how bitter it was.
~sociolingo
Mon, Nov 1, 1999 (16:37)
#66
ooh nasty. Our girls liked 'green' mangoes - do they grow in namibia too?
~riette
Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (08:03)
#67
No, we don't have those. What is the difference between 'green' mangoes and other mangoes? We don't have any kind of mangoes - unless we grow them with care in the garden; the climate is far too dry for them to grow like they do in most other parts in Africa. But, because they grow so easily in other parts. we import them very cheaply.
~sociolingo
Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (14:19)
#68
Sorry, green mangoes are just unripe ones. Are they sour! - but the the girls ( and m9st of the local kids) loved them. They still won't eat ripe ones!
~aschuth
Tue, Nov 2, 1999 (14:26)
#69
;=}
~riette
Wed, Nov 3, 1999 (02:16)
#70
OH! That's weird, Maggie! Why won't they eat ripe mangoes?? No, actually I know already. Because kids are just weird. My grandma always got upset because we'd never eat oranges from the trees - only lemons and limes. I think I'd DIE if I had to do that now.
~sociolingo
Wed, Nov 3, 1999 (14:56)
#71
What's the wierdest thing you've ever eaten????
~Isabel
Wed, Nov 3, 1999 (15:04)
#72
Meat - just kiddin'
Has anyone eaten snails (*shiver*) or frogs ?
Can any plant you can think of eating be nearly as disgusting as eating special animals? (Gawd, this should teach me getting vegetarian...)
~riette
Thu, Nov 4, 1999 (09:52)
#73
I've had snails - they're quite good. But when I found out they were snails I didn't like them anymore. And frogs I've not had. In Namibia you get these really huge ants, called 'balla-biter' ants. When I was a kid I used to eat them with red hot peppers from the tree. It was the worst sour and burn together imaginable, and I loved it. I also stole onions from my grandma's garden, and ate them raw. My 3 year-old is like that too. The more spicey a thing, the bigger the chance she'll eat it.
~sociolingo
Thu, Nov 4, 1999 (13:48)
#74
We had fried grasshoppers (?locusts?) in Cameroon, they tasted a bit like crispy bacon? They also had these huge grubs which they fried. I declined. I've never had frogs or snails, although we used to eat Whelks when I was a kid which are sort of sea snails. Do they count? I only remember them tasting salty.
~MarciaH
Thu, Nov 4, 1999 (14:18)
#75
Anyone ever eat coagualted raw pig blood? I have by mistake (thought it was something else at a baby luau) and it is the nastiest thing I can recall eating. Ate raw limpets, also at a luau. I refuse to eat the raw crab or raw sea urchin since they are bottom scavengers who eat decayed "stuff" off the bottom of the tide pools...Eeesh! (I know - so do Lobsters!!!)
~riette
Fri, Nov 5, 1999 (09:05)
#76
Oh, how utterly FOUL!!! Both of you! PEW! Go wash out yer gobs!
~sociolingo
Fri, Nov 5, 1999 (14:20)
#77
Sorry I started it!!!! Now what else can we talk about?
~terry
Fri, Nov 5, 1999 (17:49)
#78
Wash out their gobs? What in creation is a gob? (so they'll at least
know what to wash) Or do I dare ask?
~MarciaH
Fri, Nov 5, 1999 (19:31)
#79
(Terry, I think it is your mouth, with which you gobble vittles...but not entirely sure, especially when it comes from our little Ree...*grin*) Did you never have your mouth washed out with soap?!
~riette
Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (06:41)
#80
The mouth it is. Terry, honestly! You can be so filthy-minded at times ...
~sociolingo
Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (07:54)
#81
I guess our colloquial ENGLISH just isn't understood! I did wash my daughters mouth out once when I'd said I would if she swore again at me, and she did, so I had to!
~terry
Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (11:05)
#82
What! You mean a clean cut kid like me?
~riette
Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (13:03)
#83
For a clean cut kid you're pretty hairy, Terry!!
Maggie, that's cool! My mum always says, Never threaten them with the kind of punishment you can't carry out, 'cos they WILL find out and make best use of the factI'
It sure works with mine! At this stage the most effective punishment is to take their Tom&Jerry tv time away in the evenings.
But I must admit that bribery also works wonders....
~MarciaH
Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (15:00)
#84
Better still, do not threaten...Promise! It worked for me, and he knew it!
TV is great deprevation and so is scrubbing the porch...an extra time!
~terry
Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (18:31)
#85
OK, hairily uncut kid then.
~MarciaH
Sat, Nov 6, 1999 (19:45)
#86
...but cute, nonetheless...*smile*
~riette
Sun, Nov 7, 1999 (03:09)
#87
Yep. Terry's cool.
~MarciaH
Mon, Nov 8, 1999 (14:57)
#88
It must be the mouldy cheese you keep sending him that is HIS *cute* secret
~riette
Tue, Nov 9, 1999 (07:27)
#89
Hey! That happened only once - when I sent the video, that is. And I bet he fed it to Tami's cat!!!
~terry
Tue, Nov 9, 1999 (10:27)
#90
No, I ate it except the moldy parts. I didn't feed it to the cats. It
was delicious.
~MarciaH
Tue, Nov 9, 1999 (11:57)
#91
What kind of cheese was it? (Other than mouldy...)
~terry
Tue, Nov 9, 1999 (12:02)
#92
Some kind of very good Swiss cheese, it had a name that evades me.
~MarciaH
Tue, Nov 9, 1999 (12:10)
#93
(I figured as much.) Were there holes in it? (The Swiss are very good at this sort of thing, and they made oodles of varieties...I am sure it was delicious!)
~sociolingo
Tue, Nov 9, 1999 (14:35)
#94
OK guys(and gals), back to Namibia - Riette, some questions for you to help my research. A while back you said Ovambo is the predominate group. I found that in my listings it's called Kwanyama ( and also Ochikwanyama, Kuanyama, Humba, Kwanjama, Kwancama, Otjimbo, and Owanbo) Is Ovambo the correct Namibian name for the language? Does it mean both people and language? I also have it listed as an 'official' language whereas Herero is not. What do you think? I also can't find any figures for numbers in N
mibia, apart from 421,000 in Angola. Is it mainly a second language or are there lots of mother tongue speakers? That'll do for now. Thanks a bundle.
~riette
Tue, Nov 9, 1999 (14:55)
#95
WEW!
The Ovambo people and their language are officially called 'Ovambo' in Namibia.
Herero is indeed not recognized as an official language, and as far as I'm aware only Ovambo is an official black African language.
I think that when Ovambo is spoken it is mainly as a mother tongue. It is recognized as an official language because of the sheer number of Ovambo people in Namibia, not necessarily because it is universally known. I have quite a long article on the Ovambo here, but unfortunately it doesn't contain numbers either. Shall I post it anyway?
~sociolingo
Wed, Nov 10, 1999 (14:41)
#96
If you don't mind posting it then yes, please (I'll email you). I wonder if there's a site somewhere with figures. I tried Unesco.org and it's an interesting place to visit! (Unesco I meant). I have a facinating book on hand at the mement by Putz called Discrimination through language in Africa, perspectives on the Namibian experience, published by Mouton de Gruyter, 1995.
Another place you might like to try sometime is oneworld.(org?) Its a platform for lots of NGOs (non-governmental organisations) and is an absolute fund of knowledge about all sorts of things from environmental issues, to countries, languages etc.
I'm in a foul mood I just spent all afternoon reformatting my hard disk, lost all my links, although my data's backed up. Now I need to learn to use my new Zip drive properly! Grrrr
~terry
Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (10:44)
#97
Visto gives you 20mbs of disk space with which to store files, you may
want to use this as one of your backup sources also. Link from
http://www.spring.net to Visto.
~sociolingo
Thu, Nov 11, 1999 (14:25)
#98
Thanks Terry, I'll follow that up. I'm getting paranoid about my research data now - it's getting to critical mass stage!!!
~riette
Fri, Nov 12, 1999 (12:00)
#99
That's good though! It's better to have to sift through material than suffering from lack thereof.
~sociolingo
Sun, Nov 14, 1999 (14:52)
#100
Ree - on the subject of languages. Try http:///www.kli.org/KLIhome.html and tell me what you think..... I think it's a challenge! I also found http:///www.linguasphere.org/ which I think you may enjoy. i tried some of the spin off links from there too. Good luck!
~riette
Tue, Nov 16, 1999 (04:34)
#101
Thanks, Maggie. I'm trying it, but neither of the two links work. Can you check the urls again?
~MarciaH
Tue, Nov 16, 1999 (15:33)
#102
Ree, try them with just two //
http://www.kli.org/KLIhome.html
http:///www.linguasphere.org/
That is why I usually copy and paste URLs so that does not happen!
~MarciaH
Tue, Nov 16, 1999 (15:34)
#103
http://www.linguasphere.org/ SORRY!!!
~sociolingo
Tue, Nov 16, 1999 (16:46)
#104
Thanks Marcia, I hadn't noticed the slip up.
~MarciaH
Tue, Nov 16, 1999 (18:42)
#105
No problem *smile* After working on a web page (my first independent one) all day, I learned to look carefully at what they need to have in place before you can access the site to which you want to go.
~riette
Tue, Nov 23, 1999 (04:00)
#106
WOW; is this your webpage, Maggie? I need more time to go into all the links, but it looks really cool! And this is the stuff you're writing a thesis on?
~sociolingo
Tue, Nov 23, 1999 (04:37)
#107
No, it isn't my web page - haven't got round to it yet!!! :-) Linguasphere is a great site for language related materials. My thesis is on language and education in sub'saharan africa with particular focus on Mali. Did you try http://www.oneworld.org its another good spin off site for country info. You could also try http://www.africanews.org which is a newsgathering service. I use it to keep up to date on the countries I'm interested in.
Well, what about Klingon then? Is it 'outlandish' enough for you???????
~MarciaH
Wed, Dec 1, 1999 (22:25)
#108
Namibia Voting Ends, Nujoma Expected to Win
WINDHOEK, Namibia (Reuters) - Voting in Namibia's presidential and
parliamentary elections officially ended Wednesday amid questions about
voting irregularities.
Voting at most of the southwestern African nation's 900 polling stations
ended at 2 p.m. EST although those still in lines at that hour would be
allowed to vote.
``Officially, voting in the 1999 election is over,'' Electoral Commission
spokesman Peter Mietzner told reporters. Vote counting would begin at 1
a.m. EST Thursday with the first result coming later in the day.
Political observers expect the ruling SWAPO and President Sam Nujoma to
win comfortably, although the government has faced criticism.
Earlier, opposition leaders cried foul in the elections but voting officials
shrugged off the protests as ``some hiccups.''
Independent observers said they were investigating the complaints.
The National Society for Human Rights (NSHR) said it had received reports of
irregularities, including people voting more than once, from its observers and
opposition party officials in 24 polling stations across northern Namibia.
``There are allegations that many people were able to vote more than once,''
NSHR director Phil ya Nangoloh told Reuters.
Opposition leaders said their party officials were barred from many polling
stations in the Caprivi Strip and Owamboland.
``It was not isolated cases, but a trend to refuse COD agents entry into
polling stations,'' Elizabeth Amukugo, a spokesman for the opposition
Congress of Democrats, told reporters.
If the reports are confirmed, Nangoloh said the elections in the affected areas
should be re-run. ``If that is true how can an election in those polling stations
be free and fair?''
Owamboland is a stronghold of Nujoma's ruling SWAPO party which used its
overwhelming majority in the last parliament to remove a two-term limit from
the constitution to allow Nujoma to stand again.
NUJOMA EXPECTED TO RETAIN PRESIDENCY
While Nujoma, 70, is widely expected to retain the presidency, voters are
angry at his government's failure to dent a 35 percent unemployment rate,
rising corruption and involvement in a protracted war in the Democratic
Republic of the Congo.
Opposition parties say another two-thirds majority would allow SWAPO to
further tailor the constitution to its advantage.
Director of Elections Joram Rukambe said some opposition officials did not
have the correct papers when they tried to enter the polling station. ``There
was nothing intentional to bar people from these facilities,'' he told reporters.
``Here and there we have experienced some hiccups,'' Rukambe said, but he
believed there was confidence in the electoral system.
Opposition leaders have also complained that ink used to mark voters'
thumbs could be washed off, allowing multiple voting. Rukambe admitted
there had been problems with the ink, but said it was not widespread.
The opposition has also questioned the accuracy of the voters' roll which
showed a sharp rise in the number registered.
Uhuru Dempers, director of the independent Namibia NGO Forum, said they
were trying to verify the allegations and would make a report Friday.
Dempers said he was encouraged by the high voter turnout, expected to
exceed the 54 percent recorded in the last election in 1994, but opposition
parties say the voters' list contains dead people, incorrect names and
duplications.
About 878,000 Namibians are eligible to vote, out of a population of 1.7 million
people, up sharply from the 654,000 registered voters in 1994.
A member of an international election observer group agreed the voters' list
might not be accurate. ``It does seem quite high, but I don't think it's part of a
massive conspiracy,'' the observer said.
~MarciaH
Fri, Dec 24, 1999 (14:06)
#109
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Chef Gets Life for Cooking Wife
WINDHOEK, Namibia (Reuters) - A German chef was given life
imprisonment in Namibia for murdering his wife, dismembering her body and
cooking her bones before hiding them in the roof of their house.
Namibia's High Court sentenced Thomas Florin, a 32-year-old unemployed
chef and carpenter, after convicting him of killing his 30-year-old wife Monika
last year in their home in the coastal resort of Swakopmund.
The judge said Florin should spend at least 15 years behind bars before being
eligible for parole and added eight weeks to the sentence for violating a
human corpse.
``You removed the flesh from the bones and discarded it together with the
internal organs,'' the newspaper The Namibian reported the judge as saying
when sentencing Florin on Wednesday.
``Then you cooked the skeletal remains to minimize the rotting and
concealed them in the ceiling of your house,'' the judge said.
Prosecutors told the court that Florin killed his wife after she threatened to
leave him and take their two infant children back to Germany.
Friends tipped off police after her disappearance and Florin was arrested in
the capital, Windhoek, on his way to the airport.
He was initially charged with wrongfully transporting 10 live tortoises, and the
judge added a further four weeks to his sentence for the illegal possession of
wildlife products.
~sociolingo
Mon, Dec 27, 1999 (13:24)
#110
I can see why you put that here rather than the other conference, Marcia - YUK!
~MarciaH
Mon, Dec 27, 1999 (13:44)
#111
I thought about "news outside the spring"...but I thought it would be best understood by people who have been there and know the culture...rather than causing racist comments and tarring the entire populace with the same brush. I am awaiting Ree's comments.
~autumn
Thu, Dec 30, 1999 (17:07)
#112
I'm sorry, but I can't seem to keep from chuckling!
~sociolingo
Fri, Jan 7, 2000 (12:53)
#113
Received this today, thought you might be interested.
From: Basler Afrika Bibliographien
Basler Afrika Bibliographien (BAB) - Southern Africa Library and
Namibia Resource Centre in Switzerland - has a new homepage:
http://www.baslerafrika.ch
Initially, our catalogue of periodicals is accessible whilst the
full catalogue will be available shortly.
~MarciaH
Fri, Jan 7, 2000 (15:19)
#114
Thanks for posting that, Maggie...I am hoping Ree will see it and post again on the conferences. We miss her!
~MarciaH
Fri, Jan 7, 2000 (15:27)
#115
Oh, and Ree, if I offended you by my post about the nasty man who killed his wofe, I meant nothing personal. In fact, more British seem to do that than anyone esle I know, and I am half English!!!
~aschuth
Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (12:46)
#116
Post 109 - probably reflects not Namibian customs, but rather German ingenuity in disposing of evidence.
I seem to faintly remember having seen something about this case on the telly. I can understand killing somebody in a rage, but acts as organized as this, the effort invested...
Enough about this. 15 years and twelve weeks.
Does anybody have knowledge of the state the Namibian correction system is in?
~aschuth
Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (12:48)
#117
(BTW, the level of ingenuity mentioned above is indicated if you compare the amout of thought and work invested to the result = 0 .)
~MarciaH
Tue, Jan 11, 2000 (16:05)
#118
I noted that I said he killed his wofe...Must not confuse wife with Wolf. Yup - definitely premeditated...
~sociolingo
Thu, Feb 10, 2000 (13:08)
#119
Received this today, thought it might be of interest to someone
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000
From: Martine Prins, Univ. Wuerzburg
Namibia Workshop in Germany.
We hereby would like to announce that a Namibia-
workshop will be organised in Wuerzburg/Germany, June
29-30, 2000. The workshop will elaborate on the topic
Namibia: developments in the former homelands since
independence. We cordially invite under-graduates,
graduates and postgraduates working in the social
sciences and interested in Namibia to attend the
workshop. Participants will have the possibility to
present their own work in an informal setting, which will
prompt further discussion.
For more information:
Martine Prins or Eberhard Rothfuss
Bayerische Julius-Maximilians Universitet Wuerzburg
Department of Geography
Am Hubland
97074 Wuerzburg
Germany
Tel: + 49 931 888 5551
Fax: + 49 931 888 5556
~MarciaH
Thu, Feb 10, 2000 (13:50)
#120
Thanks, Maggie. It is always hoped that Ri�tte will see this and post something...even just to let us know she is alright...
~aschuth
Thu, Feb 10, 2000 (15:40)
#121
W�rzburg is not too far from Frankfurt... Dunno, two hundred kilometers maybe.
;=}
~MarciaH
Thu, Feb 10, 2000 (17:05)
#122
Is that another spelling for the place which was connected with Martin Luther?
Lotsa really great Universities in your environs!
~aschuth
Mon, Feb 21, 2000 (17:30)
#123
Uh, which place? Wartburg (hehe: wart-burg!), maybe? That's in Eastern Germany. Luther came through my area, too, when he went to the disputation in, where was that, Worms?
He was accompanied by a man of the emperor, who was there to secure his security on the journey. This man's ceremonial bihander is kept in the county museum in the city they slept in.
~MarciaH
Mon, Feb 21, 2000 (19:32)
#124
I thought he ate worms...You know, the Diet ....never mind...(Yes, I do know better!) The emperor made him sleep with man with a bihander?! Alexander, that word is not in my dictionary and I am ever curious. What is a bihander?
~sociolingo
Sat, Feb 26, 2000 (05:27)
#125
Latest Namibia news from the United Nations:
NAMIBIA: Border unrest affects immunization
Insecurity along Namibia's northern border with Angola has affected polio
immunization efforts and sparked fears about a renewed polio outbreak in the
country, 'The Namibian' said on Thursday.
Director of Primary Health Care, Maggy Nghatanga said: "The fighting will
contribute negatively to the immunization programme. We visited Rundu three
weeks ago and our health workers are really frightened to go into remote
areas for the immunization of the children."
She said that long established health services between Divundu and Kongolo
in the north had been closed because of the insecurity in the region.
Nghatanga said that at present Namibia was polio free and that Angolan
children entering the country were immunised before being sent to the Osire
refugee camp. She said that last year a 65 percent immunization figure was
recorded, but "insecurity in the northeast would worsen these figures."
NAMIBIA: Citizens want more protection
Citizens of Gciriku in eastern Kavango have demanded that the Namibian
Government restore security in their area, news reports said on Thursday.
About 500 people on Wednesday marched to the Gciriku tribal office at
Ndiyona, 100 km east of Rundu in northern Namibia, calling for urgent action
to end cross-border raids by suspected UNITA rebels. According to 'The
Namibian' the Gciriku area, which stretches for 90 km along the Kavango
river, has borne the brunt of the attacks over the past three months.
NAMIBIA: Accused Caprivi secessionist dies
Alleged Caprivi secessionist Steven Mamili died in a Windhoek hospital at
the weekend after apparently collapsing at Grootfontein prison where he had
been in detention since August last year, an official of the Namibian
Society for Human Rights (NSHR) confirmed to IRIN on Thursday.
Mamili, 41, a former talk show host for the Namibian Broadcasting
Corporation, was among the first group of about 100 political refugees from
the northeastern Caprivi Strip who crossed into Botswana at the end of 1998.
They claimed they feared for their lives because of their association with
the secessionist movement led by Mishake Muyongo and Chief Boniface Mamili.
For a detailed report see:
http://www.reliefweb.int/IRIN/sa/countrystories/namibia/20000224.htm
~sociolingo
Wed, Mar 1, 2000 (13:05)
#126
Received this today and thought it might be of interest to this topic.
From H-NET List for African History and Culture
From: David Nolan, U.S. Military Academy
"Bergdama" is an archaic term for the "click-language" speaking
Damara people of north-central Namibia. They definitely exist
both as a concept and on the ground.
Physically, the Damara have the same general characteristics as
other "black" Africans. Thus the uninitiated would not be able
to distinguish a Damara from a Bantu-speaking Ovambo or Herero.
Traditionally, the Damara were less economically developed than
the millet-growing Ovambos living along the central
Namibia-Angola border and the cattle herding Hereros of central
Namibia (as well as their cousins, the Himbas of the far
northwest). The Damaras traditionally raise goats and donkeys
(for food) in the barren mountains (thus "berg" in
Bergdama)northwest of Windhoek, west of Etosha National Park, and
east of the Skeleton Coast.
Unlike the Ovambo and Herero, the Damara speak a dialect of
Khoisan, Namadamara, they share with the Nama people of southern
Namibia. The Nama are descendants of the Khoi Khoi ("Hottentot")
pastoralists that once populated the whole region. As a group,
the Nama have lighter skin tones and quasi-oriental features, and
thus look quite different from both the Damara and the
Bantu-speaking peoples. In other words, the Damara and the Nama
speak the same language, but appear physically distinct from each
other. The Damara and Herero look the same, but speak entirely
different languages. Based on my travels in Damaraland, Namaland
and Hereroland in the early 1990's, I can verify that these
generalizations correspond fairly closely with reality.
One theory is that the Damara represent the genetic, if not the
cultural, leading edge of the Western Bantu migration who adopted
a Khoisan language, but did not extensively intermarry with the
Khoi Khois. The Xhosa in South Africa, who have incorporated
many Khoisan sounds into their own Bantu-based language,
represent a similar phenomenon.
Given their unique linguistic status, the Damara people have a
relatively well-developed sense of ethnic identity and are not
shy about advocating their political interests within Namibia's
democratic system. In the past, they tended to support the
opposition DTA party, although I do not know how the voting went
in Damaraland in the 1999 elections. On the other hand, the most
prominent Damara politician is Hage Geingob, Namibia's prime
minister and a prominent leader of the dominant SWAPO party. The
conventional wisdom in Namibia, however, is that as Geingob is
not an Ovambo, he can never hope to succeed Sam Nujoma as
president. Such is the nature of "tribalist" politics, even in
as enlightened a place as Namibia (or the U.S.).
~MarciaH
Wed, Mar 1, 2000 (15:46)
#127
Very interesting, Maggie! Btw, I awoke to the horrific BBC hourly news this morning about a mother giving birth in a tree top due to floods in Mozambique. I most assuredly would not have survived - nor would my son have! I cannot get the image out of my head! I see American and France and UK have sent aid and money (very little by comparison to other things they spend money on...)
~sociolingo
Wed, Mar 1, 2000 (16:31)
#128
Mmm I saw that one too. It appears she was winched off just after - with a medic to cut the cord. Unbelievable. Yes, action is being taken, but our military are still dragging their feet. There was something on further rising of the flood earlier. I've got to the point where I can't watch.
~MarciaH
Wed, Mar 1, 2000 (16:42)
#129
I immediately thought of you and your anguish last night. My heart and head were stricken by the scope of this misery, and I knew what you were feeling last night. I shall avoid wtching the news and turning on the BBC first thing in the morning. I just can't handle it.
~sociolingo
Thu, Mar 2, 2000 (13:05)
#130
I'm glad I'm not alone!
~MarciaH
Thu, Mar 2, 2000 (13:17)
#131
I am sure you are not. It has even made our local evening news telecasts.
You do what you can, then shut out the rest because it is just destructive after that. Big *hugs* for caring so much!
~sociolingo
Fri, Mar 17, 2000 (13:39)
#132
From UN IRIN news service
NAMIBIA: Rocket attacks in Rundu
At least two of four 122 mm rockets fired from Angola on Sunday landed near
the high-density residential area of Sauyemwa, just one km from the tense
northern Namibian border town of Rundu, 'The Namibian' reported this week.
No one was injured in the attacks.
The newspaper said the other two rockets, allegedly fired by Angolan UNITA
rebels, hit an open space near a hut on the southern side of the Kehemu
settlement on the outskirts of Rundu. The report added that when the
shelling started, people who had gathered at a recreational spot near the
town fled the "Rundu Beach".
A Namibian Defence Force (NDF) spokesman confirmed the explosions, but
added: "There is nothing like war here in Rundu. Explosions don't mean
people are fighting."
Meanwhile, suspected UNITA rebels reportedly shot dead and robbed two people
last Friday along the Trans-Caprivi highway when they attacked a government
vehicle in the country's far northeast, 'The Namibian' said.
An NDF spokesman told the newspaper that a group of between 10 and 20
attackers were involved in the incident. The report said the attack brings
to 12 the number of known people shot dead in suspected UNITA attacks since
Namibia allowed Angolan government forces to operate from its territory last
November.
~sociolingo
Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (13:03)
#133
NAMIBIA: Nujoma, new cabinet, sworn in
JOHANNESBURG, 21 March (IRIN) - As Namibia marked the 10th anniversary of
its independence on Tuesday, President Sam Nujoma was sworn in for a
controversial third five-year term.
At televised ceremonies in the capital, Windhoek, attended by South African
President Thabo Mbeki and several other visiting heads of state, members of
a new cabinet named at the weekend were also sworn in following the sweeping
victory in last December's elections of Nujoma's ruling South West Africa
People's Organisation (SWAPO).
Among the dignitaries was the former Finnish president, Martti Ahtisaari,
who helped steer Namibia to independence from South Africa in 1990 when he
oversaw one of the most successful peacekeeping operations of the United
Nations. Ahtisaari said that he was "delighted" to be back in Namibia to see
the achievements made over the last 10 years.
In his inauguration address, Nujoma, 70, said: "The main objectives over the
next five years for my government will be to accelerate the process of job
creation by increasing support for small and medium scale enterprises."
Nujoma, who has been in power since independence, also said his government
had to tackle the spread of HIV/AIDS, unemployment, and access to better
health care, education, water and electricity.
Nujoma sought a controversial third term after his party removed a two-term
limit from the constitution last year. In December he won 77 percent of the
votes in the presidential race.
SWAPO won 76 percent of the parliamentary seats, well above the two-thirds
majority needed to change the constitution.
"The main goal of my government is for Namibians to achieve the standard of
living comparable to that of developed countries by the year 2030," Nujoma
said.
Analysts in Namibia told IRIN that the costly deployment of Namibian troops
in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and the decision last November to
allow neighbouring Angola to use Namibian border bases to launch attacks
against UNITA rebels had undermined confidence in Nujoma's government.
[ENDS]
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~MarciaH
Tue, Mar 21, 2000 (14:04)
#134
Do you know anything about this new governement? Will it be an improvment on what they had before?
~sociolingo
Fri, Mar 24, 2000 (13:58)
#135
NAMIBIA: Amnesty International cites human rights abuses
Amnesty International this week accused the Namibian and Angolan security
forces, as well as the Angolan rebel movement, UNITA, of violating the
rights of people in the volatile northern Namibian towns bordering war-torn
Angola.
Amnesty said civilians on both sides of the Okavango river, which forms the
border between southeastern Angola and much of northeastern Namibia, had
been subjected to extra-judicial killings, torture, arbitrary arrests,
forcible deportations and beatings.
The report is a sequel to a two-week investigation in the area by Amnesty's
researchers last month. It said some civilians have "disappeared" without
trace, while those suspected of assisting UNITA or of being illegal
immigrants had been handed back to the Angolan authorities apparently
without being given the opportunity to request asylum. "Civilian life has
been disrupted." the report said.
For full details of the report, see:
http://www.reliefweb.int/IRIN/sa/countrystories/namibia/20000323.htm
NAMIBIA: Nujoma sworn in for controversial third term
As Namibia marked the 10th anniversary of its independence on Tuesday,
President Sam Nujoma was sworn in for a controversial third five-year term.
At televised ceremonies in the capital, Windhoek, attended by South African
President Thabo Mbeki and several other visiting heads of state, members of
a new cabinet named at the weekend were also sworn in following the sweeping
victory in last December's elections of Nujoma's ruling South West Africa
People's Organisation (SWAPO).
Among the dignitaries was the former Finnish president, Martti Ahtisaari,
who helped steer Namibia to independence from South Africa in 1990 when he
oversaw one of the most successful peacekeeping operations of the United
Nations. Ahtisaari said that he was "delighted" to be back in Namibia to see
the achievements made over the last 10 years.
In his inauguration address, Nujoma, 70, said: "The main objectives over the
next five years for my government will be to accelerate the process of job
creation by increasing support for small and medium scale enterprises."
Nujoma, who has been in power since independence, also said his government
had to tackle the spread of HIV/AIDS, unemployment, and access to better
health care, education, water and electricity.
Nujoma sought a controversial third term after his party removed a two-term
limit from the constitution last year. In December he won 77 percent of the
votes in the presidential race.
SWAPO won 76 percent of the parliamentary seats, well above the two-thirds
majority needed to change the constitution.
Analysts in Namibia told IRIN that the costly deployment of Namibian troops
in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and the decision last November to
allow neighbouring Angola to use Namibian border bases to launch attacks
against UNITA rebels had undermined confidence in Nujoma's government. A
list of the new cabinet and explanations of the changes Nujoma made can be
seen at http://www.reliefweb.int/IRIN/
~Ree
Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (08:31)
#136
The business up north is a spectacular disaster - God knows how the government is going to get out of that one.
~sociolingo
Sat, Mar 25, 2000 (11:58)
#137
Hi Ree
~MarciaH
Sun, Mar 26, 2000 (16:59)
#138
Ree, welcome back to your topic. Every time we have been posting bad news from Namibia, I think of you most sorrowfully. It must be a frightening time back there. Have you relatives still living there? If so, are they alright?
~autumn
Sun, Mar 26, 2000 (21:55)
#139
Please tell us about your last sejour there.
~sociolingo
Thu, May 11, 2000 (14:27)
#140
Here's a review of some books about Namibia, several of them sound quite interesting.
BASLER AFRIKA BIBLIOGRAPHIEN (BAB)
Namibia Resource Centre - Southern Africa Library in Switzerland
PO Box 2037, CH 4001 Basel
NAMIBIA BIBLIOGRAPHICAL UPDATE No 3:2000
Compiled 8.5.2000 by Dag Henrichsen ISSN 1422-9900
This update covers monographs, periodicals, unpublished theses,
papers and other materials as received by the BAB Namibia Resource Centre
only.It is selective and annotations do not imply a comprehensive
treatment of the title. For more detailed information kindly contact Dag
Henrichsen at
The NAMIBIA BIBLIOGRAPHICAL UPDATE is issued since February 1997 and
approximately once a month. Backissues can be consulted on our
webpage:
http://www.baslerafrika.ch
REFERENCE & GENERAL WORKS
Richard B. Lee & Richard Daly
The Cambridge Encyclopedia of Hunters and Gathers
Cambridge (University Press), 1999, 511p., maps, ill., index
ISBN 0 521 57109 X
This encyclopedia, 'by leading experts', contains ethnographic case
studies and thematic essays. Megan Biesele & Kxao Royal -/o/oo write
about the Ju/'hoansi (pp.205-209) but forget, as is often the case
with Bushmen in Namibia, those many Ju/'hoansi living on farms and in
resettlement camps. The discussions amongst anthropologists about the
relevance and directions of their research, including reference to
the socalled Kalahari debate, are briefly touched on in the introduction
and in some of the thematic essays.
Axel J. Halbach
Namibia. Wirtschaft, Politik, Gesellschaft nach zehn Jahren
Unabhaengigkeit
Windhoek & Bonn (Namibia Wiss. Gesellschaft & Weltforum-Verlag),
2000,
244p., maps, tab.
ISBN 99916 40 15 0/ 3 8039 0494 3
This is a broadly scetched socio-economic analysis of Namibias
politics, economy and society since 1990. This first detailed review on the 10
years after independence is written by an author who has analysed
Namibian developments since the past 30 years. Whilst his long
research experience and knowledge with regard to Namibia is an important
asset, his analysis of the Namibian society still is imformed by the ethnic
paradigms of past regimes. However, the book provides a wealth of
information, especially with respect to the economic changes and
politices after 1990, the state budget and monatary politics. The
author does'nt say much on Namibias foreign policy which in any case lacks
any serious research whilst his analysis of international and regional
trade is very useful. The merit of this book lies in its general framework,
providing overviews combined with structural analyses, specific
discussions and detailed information. Trends and events until March
2000 are considered. The usefulness of the book would have been greatly
enhanced and would make it a real reference work if the publishers
would have added an index.
Gretchen Walsh
The ambiguos adventure continues ... researching Africa on the
Internet
In Africana Bulletin (Boston University African Studies Center), No
54,
April 2000, pp 2-3.
The brief article focuses on Namibia which according to the author
'is particularly well served by academic web sites'. The web sites of the
National Library of Namibia and Basler Afrika Bibliographien are
critically looked at.
ARCHAEOLOGY
Tilman Lenssen-Erz & Marie-Theres Erz
Brandberg. Der Bilderberg Namibias. Kunst und Geschichte einer
Urlandschaft
Stuttgart (Thorbecke), 2000, 127p., maps, ill., tab.
ISBN 3 7995 9030 7
This is the first overview for a general readership on the
fascinating history and archaeology of the Brandberg area. The authors, expert
archaeologists of the area, have not only produced readable texts on
complex and controversial archaeological and historical issues
concerning the nature and interpretations of rock paintings and
engravings. The publishers have also produced a beautiful book,
incorporating the textual and visual levels very appropriately. It
remains to be asked when an Namibian audience, including school
children, will be able to hold in their hands a book of such splendid
and well researched quality in order to sense the historical
treasures at the Brandberg? Strange is the fact that the book includes a map on
modern Namibia which shows some of the former ethnic homelands
instead of the modern regions.
BOTANY
Ben-Reik van Wyk & Nigel Gericke
People's plants. A guide to useful plants of southern Africa
Pretoria (Briza Publications), 2000, 351p., ill., index
ISBN 1 875093 18 2
This is a fascinating book on useful plants, as foods & drinks, for
health & beauty, for skills & crafts. Plants listed are given in
various(local) names and their contemporary and historical useage is briefly
described and illustrated. Unfortunately, the book does not include
maps which makes it difficult to locate principal areas of plant
distribution. Numerous references to Namibian plants and usages.
ECONOMY
Sylvanus I. Ikhide & Kava Katjomuise
Estimating the demand for money in Namibia
Windhoek (Bank of Namibia, Occasional paper), 1999 (?), 24p.
The paper analyses the changes in real money balances since 1990,
income and interest rates aswell as monetary policies.
Hein Moellers
Ein neues Leben. Ein Selbsthilfeprojekt in Katutura
In afrika sued (Bonn), Nr 1/2000, November-Februar 2000, pp 30-31
ISSN 0947 8353
This article presents a self-help project Greenwell Recycle
Innovation Project of eight women in Katutura. The Project produces utensils
like pots, vessels and furniture for everyday use made from scrap
material.
Ussif Rashid Sumaila
Impact of management scenarios and fishing gear selectivity on the
potential economic gains from Namibian hake
Bergen (Chr. Michelsen Institute), Working Paper 1999:3, 26p., tab.
ISSN 0804 3639
'This paper develops a model for Namibian hake, which incorporates
the biology, gear selectivity and the economics of the hake fisheries in
a framework that allows the analysis of gear impacts on the potential
economic gains from the resource.' The author provides figures on the
standing biomass, catch sizes and proportions.
2000 Huntinamibia
Windhoek (Venture Publications & Namibia Professional Hunting
Association),
2000, 52p., ill.
Annual magazine for the promotion of Namibia as 'a hunter's
paradise'.
This edition includes articles from the Ministry of Environment and
Tourism, the Namibia Professional Hunting Association and several
individual authors, on topics like game species, trophy hunting and
conservation, legal requirements, hunting techniques (including
bow-hunting) and personal hunting adventures.Not surprisingly, the
edition includes an article on 'The Bushman Hunter', lamenting that
'it is almost impossible to find a Bushman clan completely dependent on
old values and traditions to make a living.' By contrast, the magazine
includes a list of some 400 names and addresses of hunting
professionals registered with the Namibian Professional Hunting Association.
HISTORY & ANTHROPOLOGY
Carol Beckwith & Angela Fisher
Afrika. Kulte, Feste, Rituale
Munich (Bucher), 1999, 2 vols, 360p.; 384p, ill., maps
ISBN 3 7658 1243 9
This expensive, glossy coffeetable book by world-renowned
photographers, originally published for the US market in 1999 under the title
'African Ceremonies', deserves some serious scrutinization with regard to the
portrayal of 'Africa'. The hundreds of photographs in the two
volumes,
full of colour and manipulation to an extend that I had to close the
books regularly after a few pages, invent the Idea Of Africa in a way
that Mudimbe would perhaps hardly believe would be possible. Needless
to
say, the Africa of this book is rural, colourful, mysterious, ethnic,
and different, and is composed of bodies, blood and earth. A myth.
African ceremonies obviously do not take place in any cities or in
New
York, for example. For the Namibian audience is might come as a
surprising fact that 'Bushmen', a principal building bloc of such
books,
are totally absent! This according to my knowledge is a novum in all
the
coffetable books of such type. Volume one includes a chapter on
'Himba
marriage' (pp 286-301). Volume two includes a chapter on 'Himba
healing
treatments' (pp. 196-211) and portrays the female healer Katjambia
Inge Brinkman & Axel Fleisch (eds)
Grandmother's footsteps. Oral tradition and south-east Angolan
narratives on the colonial encounter
Cologne (Ruediger Koeppe Verlag), 1999, 255p., ill, maps, index.
ISBN 3 89645 056 6
This is an important collection of oral narratives from people from
south-east Angola who now live as immigrants in Kavango, north-east
Namibia. Their narratives, presented here in interview from and in
local
languages together with an English translation, focus on Portuguese
colonialism in Angola, often the arrival of Portuguese in Angola:
Chief
Diongo Cao, the one who brought slavery and colonialism; Hearken to
the
suffering the Portuguese inflicted upon you!; How the Angolan people
acquired wisdom; Then they came with priests and guns; etc. The
interviews/narratives provide a fascinating inside into popular
constructions of history, strongly influenced by the oral liberation
histories as performed/distributed by the Angolan liberation
movements.
The analytic introduction to the interviews/narratives discusses
these
issues aswell as the linguistic context of the texts.
Budack, Kuno
Raubmord 1912. Die 'Falk- und Sommer-Morde'. Ein Beitrag zur
Kriminalgeschichte von Deutsch-Suedwestafrika
Windhoek, 1999, 276p., ill., map, index
ISBN 99916 50 18 0
This book tells the dramatic story of the murder of a German police
officer, two African women and an African youth, in 1912 by two
German
men, Falk and Sommer. The author has conducted extensive research and
presents detailed narratives of the investigations by the government,
the police and a string of private helpers, both settlers and
Africans,
the trail and death sentence of the murders in Windhoek. The
narrative
is illustrated with many historical photographs, many from private
archives.
The book does not intend to contextualise the murder and
investigations
into a broader picture of court rulings, murder and death sentences
during the German colonial period. Yet it follows, as it typical of
'Suedwester Historiographie', a somewhat hidden agenda with respect
to
crucial aspects of German colonialism in Namibia. Thus the author
intends to show that the small police contingent in the colony dealt
effectively with the difficult investigations of the cases and that
the
colonial court and the governor stressed the impartiality of the law
when issuing the 'same' sentence for German murders as it would have
done for African murders. It is not clear why this is felt by the
author
to 'beg respect' from the reader for the colonial police (p. x) or
should be regarded as a 'civilizing' (zivilisatorische) role of the
police in German South West Africa. The author dedicates the book to
the
imperial police of GSWA and it is hard to belief that this is an
ironic
dedication. As he explains, his dedication is offered to those
'officers
and officials, who acted for impartial justice and order
(Gerechtigkeit)
for everyone irrespectively of pressure and interest groups.' One
wonders, why the book does not include a brief chapter on the general
history of the imperial police, or the courts in Windhoek, in order
to
allow readers to get a more balanced picture of the role and doings
of
these institutions, instead of this 'dedicated work of respect'? As
is
often the case with such books from Namibia, they reveal much about
the
ideological constructions of German ethnicity.
Dick Lord
Vlamgat. The story of the Mirage F1 in the South African Air Force
Weltevreden Park (Covos-Day Books), 2000, 321p., ill., map, index
ISBN 0 620 24116 0
This book is not dedicated to the German colonial police but 'the men
and women who flew and supported the Mirage F1 during its 22 years of
service to the nation.' The book attempts to reconstruct the history
of
South African Air Force (SAAF) activities throughout southern Africa,
including the Namibian and Angolan war areas. As an insider of 'the
bushwar' in northern Namibia, the author narrates numerous personal
and
institutional details on SAAF operations from Ondangua, Grootfontein,
Rundu and Ruacana into Angola, and detailed war operations against
SWAPO, MPLA and Zambian camps from the late 1970s onwards and during
the
intensive war phase in southern Angola between 1986 and 1988. As
such,
the book also contains information on SWAPOs air defence system in
southern Angola and on its war machinary in general.
The narrative contain much on the social history of the SAAF and its
air
force bases in Namibia, with some interesting details on personalized
forms of dealing with violence and war. Language is an important
aspect
in this book which reveals much of past and current (white male)
thinking and stereotyping. The book has no footnotes and needs
serious
scrutinazation of its information and interpretations, as do all
Covos-Day Books which are mostly written by former 'war veterans'.
The
book contains important photographs on SAAF activities.
LITERATURE
Joy Hooi-Narimas & Nick Snatcross
Chewing the bones. Junior Secondary English Literature Anthology
Windhoek (Gamsberg Macmillan), 1999, 218p., ill.
ISBN 99916 0 169 X
This anthology is aimed at learners in grades 8 and 9 and include a
couple of Namibian authors and their short-stories and poems. It is
accompanied by a teacher's book with the same title, 43p., ISBN 99916
0
170 3.
PHOTOGRAPHY
Rory Bester & Barbara Buntman
Bushman(ia) and Photographic Intervention
in African Arts, Vol XXX11, No 4, Winter 1999, pp 50-59
This article looks critically at the contribution of photography to
the exoticization of cultural identity and the spectacularizing history
of Bushmen. It analyses Paul Weinbergs photographic documentations on
Khoisan people as an 'important intervention with the photographic
history of Bushman(ia)', as a counter-attempt to the romantic
stereotype. However, Weinbergs photographs are revealed as 'producing
'victims' for an audience expecting subjugation', despite Weinbergs
attempts of representation of difference. As such, Khoisan
communities 'are bound to remain colonized subjects, generalized and abstracted
by someone else's camera.'
POLITICS
Amnesty International (AI)
Angola and Namibia. Human rights abuses in the border area
AI March 2000, AI Index: AFR O3/01/00, 19p.
The report critically analyses the human rights violations and abuses
along the border between Angola and Namibia since December 1999. It
is based on a visit by AI researchers to the Kavango region in January
and February and additional information issued by the National Human
Rights Society in Windhoek. It includes reports of extrajudicial executions
by the Angolan Army FAA, arbitrary shootings by the Namibian NDF and
Special Field Force, attacks and killings by UNITA, the refugee
situation in Kavango and the Osire camp, deportations and torture,
and the issue of child soldiers.
Cristiana Fiamingo
Namibia, ovvero delle ambiguit=E0 d'una democrazia
In Afriche e Orienti (Bologna), No 4, inverno 1999, pp.19-25
Analysis of the parliamentary and presidential elections of December
1999, explanations for voting behavior and an indepth outline of the
socalled Caprivi crisis.
Hanns Lessing
Biltong und Pap. Wahlen in Namibia zementieren Swapo-Herrschaft
In afrika sued (Bonn), Nr 1/2000, November-Februar 2000, pp 8-10
ISSN 0947 8353
The author who teaches at the Theological Seminar in Windhoek
analysis the December elections, the election campaign, and new lines of
social polarisation. He stresses the fact that 'the exil slogan 'One
Namibia, one Nation' is less and less implemented.' The Caprivi question
entrenched the social and political polarisation as well as the
'military complex'.
Tom Lodge
Heavy handed democracy. SWAPO's victory in Namibia
In Southern Africa Report (Toronto), vol 15, No 2, 2nd quarter 2000,
pp26-29, ill.
ISSN 0820 5582
Another analysis of the parliamentary and presidential elections in
late 1999, the election campaign and voting behaviour. In contrast to
other analysis, Lodge looks at the election manifestos of both SWAPO and
CoD.
Andre du Pisani, interviewed by Rolf-Henning Hintze
Abweichende Meinung nicht als legitim verstanden
In afrika sued (Bonn), Nr 1/2000, November-Februar 2000, pp 10-12
ISSN 0947 8353
The political scientist at UNAM, Andre du Pisani, analyses the recent
presidential and parliamentary elections and provides insights into
electoral shifts.
John Saul
Liberation without democracy? Rethinking the experiences of the
southern
African Liberation Movements
In Jonathan Hyslop: African Democracy in the era of globalisation
Johannesburg (Witwatersrand University Press), 1999, pp.167-178.
ISBN 1 86814 331 7
This is a stimulating essay on 'an issues that has haunted the
process of southern African liberation ever since the 'thirty years' war' to
realise such liberation from white minority rule ... 'liberation
without democracy?'. Saul starts by analysing Namibia which 'perhaps,
provides the worst-cast scenario with respect to the question we are asking'
and looks at other southern African countries. Saul does not provide new
research on Namibia since the publication of his book, together with
Colin Leys, 'Namibia's Liberation Struggle' (1994).
Wolfgang Werner
Die Landfrage in Namibia: Eine Bilanz nach zehn Jahren
Unabhaengigkeit
In Afrikanischer Heimatkalender (Windhoek), 2000, pp.39-46, ill.
ISSN 0400 714X
Very brief survey of the land issue, land politics and land laws in
Namibia after 10 years of independence. Werner, who has published
several of these surveys before, raises critical questions with
regard to the importance of the land issue as is attested to by researchers
and some pressure groups, whilst the low key-status it takes in the
political agenda of the government point to a different political
agenda. Werner is sceptical of the potential of a land reform to
combat rural poverty.
SOCIOLOGY & GEOGRAPHY
Olivier Graefe
Territoires urbains, pouvoirs locaux et gestion fonciere en Namibe.
Oshakati, Ongwediva, Ondangwa et Rundu. Des collectivites urbaines en
gestation
Unpublished PhD thesis, Universite de Paris X-Nanterre, Departement
de
Geographie, 2000, 365p., maps, tab, fig.
This is a thoroughly researched thesis which 'focuses on the making
of local communities' in four towns in northern Namibia. 'After
presenting the political context in which the four towns have emerged -
including a history of urbanization of northern Namibia - the author analyses the establishment of the new local authorities ... He stresses their
relations of dependence and subordination with the central power and
the competition they face with other local powers, whether old or new.
... Land management has been taken as an indicator of territorial
recompositions. The thesis throws light on the practices, strategies
and logics displayed by political and institutional powers and
city-dwellers to control and appropriate land. It shows how the relation between men and land evolves as well as the evolution of the social relations
when land is at stake. Overlapping territories are being shaped by
alliances and antagonisms that are liable to change.' The thesis is accompanied
by many maps and illustrations and has to be regarded as an important
contribution to the recent history on and current socio-geographical
situation in northern Namibia.
Inge Tvedten & Selma Nangulah
Social relations of poverty: A case-study from Owambo, Namibia
Bergen (Chr. Michelsen Institute), Report R 1999:5, 59p., tab., map.
ISSN 0805 505X
'This study addresses urban poverty and the importance of social
relations and networks ('social capital') in the coping strategies of
the poor'. The case study refers to four shantytowns in Oshakati and
two rural villages with extensive urban connections, Ompundja and
Oniihende. A wealth of data is provided with the regard to the population
structure, socio-economic characteristics like income, housing,
education, health, nutrition, famly relations, female headed
households, marginalization and social exclusion. The brief section on poverty in rural Owambo illustrates the rural-urban and rural-rural relations of
poor people. The report is sensitive to the different perceptions of
poverty.
ANNUAL REPORTS
Namwater Annual Report, Windhoek, 1998/1999, 22p.
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~sociolingo
Fri, May 26, 2000 (11:57)
#141
--Namibia's Quiver Tree Forest--
If you are travelling in the south of Namibia, be sure to stop
and see this natural forest of more than 300 trees growing in
an arid area where little else will grow. The forest was declared
a national museum in June 1955. These trees (actually not a
tree, but an aloe plant - Aloe Dichotoma) are one of the most
interesting and characteristic plants of the very hot and dry
parts of Namibia. The plant is called a Quiver Tree, because
some Bushmen and Hottentot tribes used the tough pliable bark
and branches to make quivers for their arrows.
Read more about Namibia's Quiver Tree Forest at,
http://www.africa.com/namibia/ttd_sa_qt.phtml
From ULUNDI
http://www.africa.com
~MarciaH
Sun, Jun 4, 2000 (00:04)
#142
Wow! Have you seen any quiver trees? Amazing adaptability. Need to post that in Bioregions. Shall you or shall I? Please, allow me to snitch it for Geo!
~sociolingo
Sun, Jun 4, 2000 (11:12)
#143
Thank you for doing it! I've never seen these, but sounds incredible.
~MarciaH
Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (00:03)
#144
AfriCam / Agfa Awards
1999 AGFA Wildlife & Environment Awards
Thomas Dressler's "Quiver Trees"
http://www.africam.com/mirror/special_content/agfa/1999/44.html
~MarciaH
Sun, Jun 11, 2000 (00:06)
#145
AfriCam / Agfa Awards
1999 AGFA Wildlife & Environment Awards
The beauty around us (Scenic and Plants)
2nd: Theo Allofs' "Quiver Trees at Sunset"
http://www.africam.com/mirror/special_content/agfa/1999/16.html
~sociolingo
Mon, Jun 12, 2000 (04:07)
#146
wonderful pix!!!! Are these pix free to use???? (i.e. on home pages?)
~MarciaH
Thu, Jun 15, 2000 (00:49)
#147
They are on the website I have listed above. Check there for copyright sstipulations and such. They are striking and it is easy to see why they won prizes for photography../
~sociolingo
Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (10:03)
#148
I checked and I'm not convinced they are ...
~MarciaH
Fri, Jun 16, 2000 (23:03)
#149
try it out and see what happens