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Topic 10 · 17 responses · archived october 2000
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~terry seed
I remember the days when you couldn't post a promotion for you own website in a newsgroup without going down in flames. Now, the whole web is going toward commercialization. Hey, I make a living building electronic commerce websites (did you think the Spring confreences were profitable? guess again) so I can't knock it too much. But you can. What do you find loathesome about the commercial parts of the web? What do you find acceptable?
~terry #1
Just to get things rolling, read this and comment: http://www.news.com/Newsmakers/Capps/capps.html It's an interview with Steve Capps, who's in charge of Microsoft's project to integrate Web browsing into the Windows 95 shell.
~klreisig #2
Hello Terry, I see by the one post that you are into developing web sites for commercial users. I'm trying to get my feet wet in the field also. Talking to a customer that already has a web site I was asked "How can he get his web site out in front of more people." I'm not sure what the answer to that question is. Do you have a suggestion? How does Yahoo and Webcrawler etc. go out and find sites and then store them? What do they look for at the site? the title? or do thay store every thing about the site? H w can you increase that amount of hits from a search engine? I guess what I'm asking is how do you make a customer's web site useful to him?
~terry #3
This is a huge topic which I'm not going to address right now. If there isn't a topic for this now, we need to create one.
~klreisig #4
I tried some expierments after my last post. I used Altavista as my search engine. I searched for things that I knew would only be found in my home page but they were in the body and not the title. The search was successful. So the search engines do search the whole of the web pages. Has anyone else tried any tests in this area?
~KitchenManager #5
Sorry, Terry, but I couldn't figure out a better place to ask, and this looked as good a place as any. Do you know anything about TPC FAX? Go to http://www-usa.tpc.int/salespitch.html and see what you think. Thomas and I are willing to be "remote" admins if you're interested and have the "extra" equipment to do it. Let me know what you think, etcetera.
~CotC #6
Yes, yes, yes, dammit!!! What he said.
~terry #7
I have a lot of equipment and servers. Why do you want to do this. I'm game. I just want to know more. I'm reading the web page in another window right now.
~KitchenManager #8
Honestly? Well, the advertising and all. Promos for the Spring, resume padding for Thomas, tangible practical experience for myself. I'm sure there are other practical reasons as well, plus it's one step closer to world domination. Is this what you wanted to know?
~terry #9
OK I'm game. What do I need to do first on this. Pad your resume and dominate the world indeed.
~KitchenManager #10
Thanks, cool, and go to http://www-usa.tpc.int/servers/jointpchowto.html and get the server software. Do you have machines with 24 hour internet access in both Bastrop and Austin? If not, Thomas will be getting his done in January or so and we can add Austin stuff then and just do Bastrop for now. You may also want to look at http://www-usa.tpc.int/servers/index.html Till I hears from ya again, that's all for now
~terry #11
We have machines in both places. Let's take this step by step. What is required as the very first step?
~CotC #12
All the stuff is available at SGI's ftp site: ftp.sgi.com/sgi/fax. SVR4 binaries, Linux binaries, documentation, Windows binaries, etc. I'm working on the exchange file right now. When I'm done, I'll e-mail it to WER. Oops, gotta go -- I hear the boss...
~CotC #13
Hey, WER, there's a boo-boo in the exchange file I e-mailed you (the one that's all broken up by individual calling area) The line that says "Austin!512" needs to go bye-bye. OOPS! Sorry. Also, I went to the ftp site and snagged all the documentation. I'm gonna read it on the plane and then I'll bring it to you later.
~KitchenManager #14
Hi, Terry, sorry haven't responded sooner. Bronchitis and having to work has kept me exhausted, loopy, and busy. From http://www-usa.tpc.int/servers/jointpchowto.html Step 1: What area are you covering? Check to see if we already cover your area. The coverage list will be helpful here, as will our online directory assistance. We do welcome multiple cells in any region, but we also offer exclusive coverage of areas when requested, so if your region is already covered please get in touch with us before proceeding, Create an exchange file. This file defines the list of the phone numbers and other information about your cell. Review our sample exchange file with information about the format. Contact your local DNS zone administrator. He/She will be responsible for guiding you through the stages of the registration/activation process. One thing they should all require from you is the exchange file you have created. Me again... Nobody in the 512 area code is covered. As for the exchange files, according to their example, I am e-mailing you the lists for Austin and Bastrop. Will probably have to edit after you contact the DNS Administrator, but at least we hopefully have the basics done. TTFN, me
~terry #15
We're going to have to do this in smaller, bite sized pieces. One step at a time. This is too much all at once. Let's just concentrate onthe first tiny baby step. Which is?
~KitchenManager #16
I'm confusing myself, will contemplate and return when I'm all healthy again. Talk here soon, me
~CotC #17
Hey! I'm back (more or less...). I'll get ahold of you (WER) shortly. Ta.
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