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Topic 10 · 295 responses · archived october 2000
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~sysop seed
Who are you? Where do you live and work? Where are your from originally? Where did you (or do you) go to school. What is your livlihood. How do you connect to the Net (who provides your access). What are your interests and hobbies? Tell us more!
~Stefanie #1
As most of you already know from Amy's other board, my name is Stefanie and I spend most of my time in Syracuse, NY where I attend SYracuse University. I can't wait for the strings to get going here like they used to on the other board. I miss you all v ery dearly. -Stefanie
~churchh #2
I'm The Mysterious H.C. ;-)
~churchh #3
~terry #4
Jumbo jpeg!
~Anna #5
Hi Guys, I just found this while waiting for the last Friday afternoon crisis to hit my desk - the P&P2 addicts club is a real moving target this week! I am as stated previously a 39 year old Austen fan and some-time surgical pathologist from Newcastle Australia. I hope catch up properly tommorow. In the meantime, thanks to Spring for their hospitality, to Alcicia for emergency services and to Amy for general sheperding, organising and other patroness stuff. Anna
~Kali #6
I see Stefanie finally got through. As did Henry. Just look for the giant revolving Hippopotamus, as Johnny Carson would say... Janet? Rebecca? You guys still having problems? If I miss any of you at the chat room, please e-mail me at dxiechkn@uclink.berkeley.edu! - K
~Cheryl #7
Well, this will take some getting used to, old dog, new tricks and all that. I am not yet eight and thirty, I am a piano teacher and church music director and in my spare time, I collect volunteers to help with the management of wherever we wind up for the P&P2 BB. If you haven't yet volunteered e-mail me at clsneed@ix.netcom.com Keep those cards and letters coming in!
~jwinsor #8
Well, let's try this again... for some reason only the first line of this got posted on my first attempt. Does this form, perhaps require hard returns? Although the two other Joans who were with us earlier appear to have fallen by the wayside,I have decided to remain Joan, too becasue I know very well that the instant I were to drop the "too" another one would surface. Murphy's law would have it so. While the search continues we are indeed indebted to Alicia for taking in the homeless and to Terry for these most hospitable arrangements, and to those who are working behind the scenes to help our beloved patroness Amy to locate permanent accommodations more suitable for a group of this size and volubility. Meanwhile we must endeavour to keep our spirits up and entertain ourselves with what avenues are avaliable, including the excellent accommodations (though admitedly not so grand as the breakfast roo at Rosings Park) of the Pemberley room at the estate of Lady Kaffeine the magnanimous. Those who have arrived at that location at or about the appointed times have on occasion found somewhat with which to amuse themselves, and look forward to the partic ipation of others who may find their way to that assembly.
~jwinsor #9
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~terry #11
I think when you post, you have to be careful about hitting the enter or return key on your computer more than once. This may or may not have been what happened. If you have problems with our software or questions, we have another conference called 'yapp' which you can join and direct queries directly to the author of this software, Dave Thaler. If a software fix is required, he usually is pretty prompt in doing it.
~terry #12
I'll do my best to faciltitate whatever it is y'all need.
~geekman #13
G'day, Well I see there is a fellow Novocastrian in Anna here. Terry this is a great service you are offering but have you thought of the consequences. This is simply going to get too much for you to manage as we're all so gushy about JA and P&P2 etc. I'm a Real Estate Valuer and one and thirty. Oh I'm an Aussie too. Adieu, Ian
~mrobens #14
Hi, I'm Myretta(a soul surfacing as a result of the loss of Amy's board). I have been reading your posts and enjoying your company for a month or so. I didn't realize how devoted I was until the board disappeared. I also realized that I was not returning full value for my enjoyment by not joining in your dialogue. So. . ., as I said, I'm Myretta. I'm a technology and operations manager (that is I am responsible for networks and computer hardware) for a university publishing company. I'm 49 (or less) and live in the Boston area. I am, as Amy and Cheryl both know, available to help where help is needed. Thanks to you all for adding an extra dimension to my days. Myretta
~Amy #15
Hi Myretta. Thanks for your offers. I could actually use some help deciphering a new bb script. Somehow, though I feel that we should consider this Yapp software since we can get such good support from its developer here. Maybe we should take a look at it. Amy
~Kim #16
I am 35 years old, and I live in the southern part of the US. I am married with no children, but we do have a dalmatian that is just like our child. I am an elementary school librarian. I became interested in Jane Austen after seeing P&P2 on A&E.
~haker #17
Hey everybody! I'm a structural engineer (still haven't found a job since graduating, but I do have a couple of leads.) I live in Mpls. MN USA, but am in Milwaukee visiting my parents for a few days. It's nice to see the familiar face are all here--and some new ones too.
~Anneother #18
I am forty, an architect, and live in Johannesburg, South Africa. I am single, and am owned by two nutty german shepherds.
~Anneother #19
I am forty, an architect, and live in Johannesburg, South Africa. I am single, and am owned by two nutty german shepherds.
~Anneother #20
I promise I only submitted once, don't know what happened
~jane #21
I have been following the PPBB since August, in its infancy when it was still possible to keep up with the posts and even get some work done. I am a molecular biologist at a biotechnology company in the Boston area. I am 38, married to an Englishman (more Knightley than Darcy). I have a 2 year old daughter, Eve. I am overwhelmed by how generous people have been about offering our group temporary homes, and how enterprising several of the group members are about keeping things going. Jane
~Donna #22
Hi everyone we know each other quit well indeed. Homemaker: children and hubby recently three and forty from NortheastPa.
~Becks #23
Hi guys I'm here! My name is Rebecca, 22, in my final year at Ryerson University for magazine journalism. Ready to be addicted again.
~Carolyn #24
Hi everyone, I got hooked on the BB in August. I am 32 years old and I am a secretary at the University of Virginia.
~amy2 #25
Hi, I'm Amy 2 from L.A. I'm a screenwriter who works in the film business, and a complete Austen fanatic. I think that Martin Amis said if he had to be stranded on a desert island with a book, then let it be P&P, and that's my view!
~Bernie #26
Hi everyone. Thanks Terry for providing us with a new home. (Do you realise what you have let yourself in for ?). I'm 31 and a lecturer (Assistant Prof.) in Inorganic Chemistry at Queen Mary and Westfield College (part of University of London). Been a JA addict for about 10 years and have been pestering the BB for about 2 months.
~Bernie #27
Hi everyone. Thanks Terry for providing us with a new home. (Do you realise what you have let yourself in for ?). I'm 31 and a lecturer (Assistant Prof.) in Inorganic Chemistry at Queen Mary and Westfield College (part of University of London). Been a JA addict for about 10 years and have been pestering the BB for about 2 months.
~Bernie #28
I don't know why the message showed up twice. I only submitted it once, honest!
~kendall #29
I am Katy - so far as I know older than anyone who has stated an age and therefore not about to state mine. I have read JA since I was a teenager - learned from my mother who read JA all the way through once a year all her reading life. I am a computer professional - would be glad to help with the board if I can in any way.
~Cheryl #30
Katy, thanks for volunteering. I don't believe that I have you on my list. (A list, a list I have a little list) Please e-mail your e-mail at clsneed@ix.netcom.com Thanks!
~Cheryl #31
Katy, ignore the above message,I've got your e-mail address (duh!). You're officially On The List! Thanks.
~mich #32
Hello Everyone, it so nice to all be back My name in Michalene but you'll see me logged on as Mich. I'm one & thirty. I only found out about Austin after seeing P&P2 but I'm so happy I did. Amy's board has help keep my obsession manageable which I greatly appreciate. I run a computer integration company in San Francisco where my main focus is keeping the operational side of the house running smoothly. I'm originally from Idaho but moved to California 10 years ago.I hated the snow in Idaho. I'm using netscape and PSI on a frame relay 128K circuit. I work alot so Hobbies are few. Your all such a nice group of people.I really enjoy the time I spend with you. Thanks! Mich
~EricB #33
For those of you who have missed my introductions on the late, lamented P&P2 BB of Amy's, I am LT Eric B. Verhulst, Chaplain Corps, U.S. Navy Reserve serving at U.S. Naval Air Station Sigonella, Sicily (if you look for it on a map, you probably won't find it, but it's near Catania). I moved here one year ago from a small town (20 people, counting my family of five) after joining the Navy 1 Oct 95. I have three children (Dana, 8; Roger, 6; Brant, 3) a wife (Barb, age classified). I am 32. I find making sermons very agreeable, but also play wargames, make snide comments, gossip, watch movies based on JA novels, read JA novels, and dink around on computers. I do sometimes walk sideways commenting on the cost of window glazing as well, but am in no other wise similar to Mr. Collins.
~Louise #34
How wonderful to find you all here...especially since I still cannot find a way into Pemberley to join for chat. I am, at 43, a part time writer, full-time mother of 2, overwhelmed volunteer, and a confirmed nightowl who stays up too late engrossed in a book or bounding around the web gobbling up Austen/PP2 links. Darcy and I have been meeting at Pemberley (only imagining those longing looks) for 30 years (cripes, I sound like a crone), and he and Lizzy and the gang have stood by me throughout my many incarnations. Thank you Amy for all your kind efforts to keep us together. Alabama bred, Washington beltway bound - Louise
~Saman #35
I missed you all so much!!!! Fortunately I was able to console myself with the tapes, which my parents bought me for my birthday (they *finally* got the hint). While watching them I kept wanting to run over to the computer and share my thoughts on various scenes with you, and I'm so glad that we can all reconvene! By way of an introduction, I'm 20 and have just finished a degree in Physiology. I live in Wellington, New Zealand. Saman :)
~Inko #36
Hi, I'm a 58 year old homemaker from the Maryland suburbs of Washington, D.C., with grown children scattered around the country. Formerly British (I finally became American three years ago) I've been an Austen fan since I was 12 at school. I still have my copy of P&P that I won as a school prize - leather bound with gold edges - but also have two other copies of it as well as a complete set of all Austen's books. Many thanks to Terry and Spring for allowing us in here, to Alicia for your beating heart board, and especially to Amy for collecting us all around her in the first place. So many agreeable people - I'm quite enraptured!
~kathleen #37
So glad to find you all well and contented. I live in western Maryland, and I teach Mathematics & Actuarial Science at a small state University. Jane Austen is one of my passions, probably the longest lived and most consistent. It's great to have a group to discuss JA, P&P, and P&P2 with -- none of my friends are of like mind! I must just add my grateful thanks to the nice people here at Spring for inviting us in (out of the cold).
~Hilary #38
I have finally found my way in here today, and I'm glad to find so many of you here. The last day or two I have been quite despondent about missing you. I feel I hardly need to introduce myself as I fear I have a reputation, either to live up to, or to put down, depending on who you are. However, in short, I live in Canberra, Australia, with my husband and 3 kids. As well, I'm a sometime relief teacher, and puppet maker. Please email me if you would like to.
~DonnaT #39
I feel home again, like when we moved to our new house, the people are familiar but the surroundings arent, but well worth the adapting. I am 46 (did I say that?) and live in Las Vegas Nv. Have been an Austen fan since 14 and I agree with an earlier comment, if I have to do with one book my entire life let it be P & P , ditto for P & P 2. Spring in November, I like it !!!
~terry #40
I'm Paul Terry Walhus, chief cook and bottle washer for the Spring, which is at http://www.spring.com My email is mailto://terry@spring.com I live in a big house in the country outside of Austin which I'm turning into an "Internet Cottage"; we create websites for folks and provide consulting and other services. My interests are fitness activities, basketball, reading and writing, making videos and converting them into animations on the web, dancing, music, camping and hiking, ham radio (ka6atn), and walking.
~Stefanie #41
Terry, Have you ever read Pride and Prejudice or any Austen?
~Linda409 #42
Hi All, So glad to be back among you at last!! I am two and fifty; an obsessive P&P fan; a resident of the Mid-Hudson Valley of New York; a programmer (main frame operating system, almost PC illiterate, unfortunately); married to a lovely man who patiently puts up with this obsession. Besides Jane Austen, I love music and I'm a professional volunteer. A hearty thank you to Terry and Spring for providing us with this temporary home. I was beginning to have severe withdrawal symptoms.
~cat #43
Hello! My name is Cat. I am just 18 and am a senior. I live in South Florida with my parents and 2 younger brothers. I plan to go to Cornell or Harvard when I graduate. After which I want to go to vet school and become a Horse vet. I enjoy singing, horseback riding, reading classic novels (especially JA), and listening to music.
~terry #44
Putting me on the spot, eh! No, I haven't read any of the books but I've got it on my list to pick up a good compilation of all here works the next time I go to the bookstore.
~churchh #45
Hey, Terry, there's always some Austen stuff over at the Half-Price books store on 31st and Guadelupe. I guess this message would only be on topic in an Austen-Austin conference, right? [Boris Badunov voice: "Vee make little choke here".]
~terry #46
Great idea, is there one particular compilation that folks recommend?
~pemberley #47
Hello, Thanks so much Terry for offering this new service. Those regular P&P2 BB devotees won't have seen me before as I was too shy to respond, a lurker you might say. I have a Jane Austen page too thanks to my server HunterLink.
~pemberley #48
Terry, You may be able to purchase "The Complete Novels of Jane Austen" first published by Penguin Books in 1983. For those on a meagre income like me this is a good value introduction to all of JA's wonderful novels.
~Amy #49
That's right HC and Terry both are in Austin. Terry, if he gets too snide and nasty will you go over there and put a virus in his machines -- just stay away from the files comprising the JA info page.
~terry #50
Maybe HC would like to go on our Electric Minds outing on Sixth Street on the Sixth of December at 6 pm. We only have 5 folks so far and are looking for a sixth.
~Amy #51
Maybe HC would like to go on our Electric Minds outing on Sixth Street on the Sixth of December at 6 pm. We only have 5 folks so far and are looking for a sixth. _____________ Terry what a great nerd thing to do. Sounds like a nerd friend's plan to celebrate his billionth second on earth.
~facslady #52
Hi! My name is Robin and I am 32 years old. I've been a Jane Austen fan for about five or six years now. I first saw P&P as the b&w version with Sir Laurence Olivier (sp?) and then saw the 1995 version in January 1996 here in the US on A&E. I own the tape boxed set and the laser disc. I am in love with Mr. Darcy and *those thighs* but some of the photos I've seen of the *real* Colin Firth don't get my heart racing like Darcy!! I was in biotechnology here in the Bay Area, but have quit to become (hop fully) a full-time student at Stanford.
~terry #53
By the way that outing is at Katy Bloom's Irish Pub. On Dec 6th at 6 on Sixth Street.
~Kali #54
I have a new title, because I wanted to jump on RW and HC's Fake title bandwagon...I am now "The Bloodthirsty Hindu Goddess Kali-Durga," or BHGKD, for short...don't ask, just use it! - BHGKD ;)
~Amy #55
Kali, I missed the whole fake title bandwagon sessions. Please fill us in. Who is RW? How many people are chatting pseudonymonously? Is it right, cool, entertaining, annoying? Depends who is doing it? Actually do in the the Best of Chat conf if you could. Amy [ Alicia's Temp Site ] [ Links ] [FAQ] [ Live Chat in the Pemberley Drawing Room ]
~churchh #56
Moi, snide and nasty?? Amy, you have obviously confused me with someone else...
~MaryC #57
Hi, I am a legal assistant (after some other former occupations all related to condominium associations). Our home has been in the San Diego CA area these last 20 years, but of course, we came here from somewhere else originally. We just married off the second of two daughters. This, of course, is the one who when I was watching P&P2 would wander into the room and say "Again!!" First read Pride and Prejudice in high school (I am past one and fifty, but won't say how far). I had always enjoyed the Greer G rson movie but never bothered to compare the book and the movie. P&P2 captured my interest simply because it was a 'period' movie (costumes, scenery, music, etc) but the actors were absolutely awesome and the wonderful part was that I had never heard of any of them. True testimony to their execution of the roles. I have enjoyed all the side-trips into clothing, carriages, entail, status of women..that Amy's BB provided. Want to thank Terry for giving this group a new home. My sister lives in Austin, T , beautiful area to visit. My compliments to all the contributors, you are a joy I am glad I found in learning how the internet works.
~carolee #58
Hi, I'm Carol To echo Mary's response I also live in San Diego and am past one and fifty although not yet one and sixty. I am a C.P.A. by profession and an Anglophile by inclination. I live alone and have been a JA fan since high school but nothing has gotten to me quite like this version of P&P. Would love to hear from any of you. E Mail is carolee@FIA.net
~Sarahmem #59
Greetings, fellow ladies and gentlemen, I have been following this BB since its early life, though I have not posted much since the last showing of P&P2 when the BB got so busy and I seemed to fall into the lurker category- so much going on in real life I could hardly keep up!!! I am ever thankful for Amy's persistence and Terry's hospitality. I live in Memphis (with THE KING - and YES, he lives) and work in a hospital. Am looking forward to free holiday time to spend with my fellow addicted friends. Wish I was in Austin - sounds like an intere ting evening planned for the 6th!! Sarahmem (used to be just Sarah)
~Sarahmem #60
Greetings, fellow ladies and gentlemen, I have been following this BB since its early life, though I have not posted much since the last showing of P&P2 when the BB got so busy and I seemed to fall into the lurker category- so much going on in real life I could hardly keep up!!! I am ever thankful for Amy's persistence and Terry's hospitality. I live in Memphis (with THE KING - and YES, he lives) and work in a hospital. Am looking forward to free holiday time to spend with my fellow addicted friends. Wish I was in Austin - sounds like an intere ting evening planned for the 6th!! Sarahmem (used to be just Sarah)
~miki #61
Hi, My name is Annemiek, I am 41, and live in the Netherlands. I run the help-desk of a computer network for a small organisation for physical planning and housing. I have been addicted to P&P2 since it was shown on Dutch television (sept. 96). I am only just starting on the Internet (still a bit shy) and my first purpose was of course looking for information on P&P2. I was so glad to find the link to the discussion and support group for hopelessy addicted. I never knew such groups existed!
~miki #62
Hi, My name is Annemiek, I am 41, and live in the Netherlands. I run the help-desk of a computer network for a small organisation for physical planning and housing. I have been addicted to P&P2 since it was shown on Dutch television (sept. 96). I am only just starting on the Internet (still a bit shy) and my first purpose was of course looking for information on P&P2. I was so glad to find the link to the discussion and support group for hopelessy addicted. I never knew such groups existed!
~LauraM #63
I never introduced myself. But I hope you all know who I am. I am on the Austen List, Firth List, I was one of the first posters to the Bulletin Board. I live in Boston, MA. I started reading Austen this past January (I had no clue about the miniseries until March), totally fell in love with her style of writing. Moved on to Forster, Defoe, Dickens, Ondaatje, Carr (A Month in the Country). I have been a huge Colin Firth Fan for about 9 years. I first saw him in Valmont, liked that movie much better than Dangerous Liaisons. I have a 6 year old daughter, Rebecca. Who was sent home today from school, because she has a cough. I also just joined the Fiennes list, but they talk way too much. Laura M.
~Cheryl #64
The Fiennes people talk more than we do? I am all astonishment!
~candace #65
Hi -- I am three and forty. An accountant for an Educational Lobbying firm in Sacramento, California. I have been married for fifteen years to the best man that I have ever known. We have one child, a 13 year old son. The accounting fits in well with my analytical side, but my creative side makes hats and lace gloves. I never read any JA until seeing the Mini Series, then was totally hooked, I'm now working my way through all of JA's novels. I found the BB on the very first day that our internet was hooked p, happy thoughts indeed! Since then I have grown to love you all quite like family.
~Bells #66
Hi I've been skulking in the background for a while - so here goes my bold leap onto the page! I'm not yet eight and twenty, an exploration geologist working in Orange NSW (yes, another Aussie). I first read P&P at age 10 and loathed it - I tossed it aside several times before finally reaching the end. Since then I've read it at least once a year. Happily, all I have to do now is hit the rewind button. I have a dreadful feeling that my email is incorrect in the login - so if any kind souls could tell me via he conference how to rectify this (?newbies discussion)I'd be most grateful. This not being the case, emails are much enjoyed!
~terry #67
Is your email mailto:Bells@203.21.9.32 If not, just post it in a response following the form above and folks will be able to email you. I'll see if there's a way to change your email.
~saskia #68
Hi, I am Saskia and live in Belgium. I am 29 years old and married to Tom who complains that I talk about nothing else than Jane Austen, Pride & Prejudice and this group. We have three cats: Darcy ( the handsomest and very proud!), Bingley (the cuddliest) and Mr. Collins (the silliest), a dog and sheep. I am very fond of everything Jane Austen wrote, but especially of Pride & Prejudice. We had P&P2 on television in September and I�ve been addicted to it from the first moment. And felt very lonely, because nobody else seemed to have seen it. To survive I keep a teddy-bear-shop, do lay-out and copy-writing-work and make translations.
~saskia #69
Forgive me, I only wanted to add my feelings of gratitude to the inspiring and organizing people of this group (Amy, Terry, Alicia,...) and to everybody posting here. I'm so happy since I found you all!
~Bells #70
Hi Terry Thanks for your response. Yes, the email is incorrect ... think it's some sort of DNS number (it leapt into the empty box on the login page, quite without my knowing it!). My main email is in fact belindap@cadia.newcrest.com.au. Second email is Bperry@cww.octec.org.au Thanks so much for your help.
~Leslie #71
Hello to all you P&P, and JA adicts. I come to you all from my adopted state of SC. I have lived in many locations, but am originally from Princeton, NJ. I am nine and thirty. I am a wife. I have a computer brain husband, so if you need asistance Amy or Terry, please let me know. I am a computer novice, but have been a lurker to the board since August. I have a four year old daughter. I am currently in grad school for nurse family nurse practioner. I hope to have my MSN in a year. I don't think I can do a thesis on JA!. I am honoured to have the pleasure of your company.
~jwinsor #72
RE: changing your e-mail address - this is possible to do from one of the main menu selections - something like "change personal info", BUT I think that the problem is that it does not take effect in conferences that you are already joined to. The only way I've found to make it take effect is the resign from the conference, change the info, and then re-join. But then, all of your place markers are re-set to the beginning, so be aware that you will have to display everything all over again before your "n w" option will work.
~Carolineevans #73
Hello! My name is Caroline,I am not three and forty,and I am a substitute teacher- Beaver Leader-ordinateurly impaired inhabitant of the Ottawa Valley.Igrew up in England, first read P&P when I was thirteen and have been a JA addict ever since. My own best of men is more Fredrick Wentworth than Darcy, and my life more like the Harville's than the Bingley's but I was never happier in my life than I am now.I got into P&P2 via my sister in UK, who would, I think, have been a proficient Colin-ist if she had ever learnt(to use a computer). Like Byron, I love the way letter-writing "combines solitude with good company" Do you think he would have enjoyed our group?.
~Carolineevans #74
Hello! My name is Caroline,I am not three and forty,and I am a substitute teacher- Beaver Leader-ordinateurly impaired inhabitant of the Ottawa Valley.Igrew up in England, first read P&P when I was thirteen and have been a JA addict ever since. My own best of men is more Fredrick Wentworth than Darcy, and my life more like the Harville's than the Bingley's but I was never happier in my life than I am now.I got into P&P2 via my sister in UK, who would, I think, have been a proficient Colin-ist if she had ever learnt(to use a computer). Like Byron, I love the way letter-writing "combines solitude with good company" Do you think he would have enjoyed our group?.
~Carolineevans #75
~Carolineevans #76
Oops! I didn't submit twice, but got a transfer interruption which seemed to re-set itself......
~Carolineevans #77
Oops! I didn't submit twice, but got a transfer interruption which seemed to re-set itself......
~terry #78
Or, Joan, you can do a fixseen if you are a shell user. And I'll happily set up a shell account to anyone who is a regular contributor on the Spring!
~jwinsor #79
Thanks Terry, but the people who need this feature most are those who are coming in brand new, and are not sure whether or not they even want to stay. There is no way that people can tell how their "full name" and other info are going to be displayed until they have come into a conference - and then if they decide they would rather use their nickname as their ID or "real name", it will take them some time before they discover how to change those things, and by then they may have several conference to resign from, make the changes, and re-display everything. (The current version of Caucus - including WebCaucus - gives users the option or re-setting their pointers so that everything is seen, OR so that everything up to a specified date is marked as seen. a very useful option - it is also offered automatically each time a person joins a new conference.)
~terry #80
Interesting, we once used Caucus as our conferencing software.
~Amy #81
Terry, I suppose Dave competes with WebCaucus, and likely plans to incorporate many of its features in his new version of Yapp. We ought to help him come up with a competitive edge that would serve us as well. Marketeers! Draw your swords. We have some good brains here. Amy
~terry #82
Like I've said a few times. With Dave, you'll get what you ask for. It's like rubbing the magic lamp and making a wish that comes true. And the yapp conference is the place to make your wishes.
~jwinsor #83
Terry: Interesting, we once used Caucus as our conferencing software (Which I why I brought it up - hoping it might clarify of what I was speaking.)
~terry #84
I'm very familiar with Caucus. They use it pretty successfully on Echo. The Echoids swear by it.
~jwinsor #85
] Terry: I'm very familiar with Caucus. I'm also excessively familliar with (though not excessively fond of) Caucus.
~Kaffeine #86
I've never officially introduced myself, and this seems like as good a time as any, so... I am Kathleen Grant (using my e-mail name of Kaffeine in deference to the other Kathleen on the board). I am 34, and married. By profession I am the Web Coordinator at the Ford Production System area at Ford Motor Company. By obsession I am spending way too much time on this board and at the chat room (and loving every minute of it!). My mother gave me a complete set of Austen's work about a year ago, but I didn't get around to reading any until this past June when I broke my ankle and had a lot of time on my hands. I read "Emma" first, and then proceeded to devour the rest of her work. (A late bloomer, I guess) I found the P&P2 board back in August, but just lurked as I had not yet seen the mini-series. I must admit, that as tragic as the 2nd crashing of the P&P2 board was, I am happy about the first one - that's when several peop e from there stopped by my Jeremy Northam site, and I finally became an active participant in this Austen mania! Thanks very much to everyone (especially Amy) who have made me feel so welcome here!
~Anna #87
Terry / David ; with respect to the sign-up screen, I expected that the name I specified as my nickname (anna) would be used as my pseudonym and my full name would appear in parentheses, if at all. Maybe if you changed the sign-on screens to check which name a new user wants to use as their default nick-name for the conferences you coud avoid most of the hassle with pseudonyms. The other thing about sign-up and defaults concerns the email address. Austen is a very friendly group and I don't mind having my email address as a tag here, but in some conferences I wouldn't want that to happen. I am happy for spring to have my email address if you want it for admin/security reasons, but have you considered giving people the option of not displaying it in conferences? This might be more important if junk email takes off in a big way.
~jwinsor #88
(Also, some of our members are minors, whose parents to not look kindly on having their e-mail addresses posted publicly. On the basis of those who have admitted their ages, we have a minimum 47 year age span here!)
~geekman #89
Joan: The age span could be much greater if you include OJ who is not 1 year old yet
~terry #90
Anna, I've responded to your query about email in he yapp conference. You've given Dave some good ideas for enhancements to the next version of Yapp.
~JohanneD #91
Hello fellow lover of P&P and JA. As mentioned on Amy's BB, I am not but close to six-and-thirty, mother of a 3 year old daughter (which I project will become acquainted with JA VERY SOON) and sharing life and some passions with my similar-to-Mr. Bingley's husband. A secretary, and in between jobs, I just finished a one year intensive college program and thus upgrading my skills. I I dabble in editing, producing my daughter's daycare center monthly newsletter and actively giving time to well deserving cau es for people in need of a little warmth in there lives. Finding Eliza's personnality very similar to my own, I'm impetuous and passionate, particularly on everything related to history and thus period piece. As the season to be jolly approach with as quick as Darcy's steps returning to Rosings Park after is decable with Lizzy, may I urge you all to share as much as you possibly can, "a little will suffice", with someone who needs it, espacially children, poverty is expanding so rapidly and fellow woman/man can bring so much : joy. Francophone and anglophile, school versed me more in French Litt, I discovered JA through my interest(love) in the movie Emma. P&P2 was broadcasted on SRC here in Montreal, Quebec in October and got COMPLETELY SUBDUED by the actors (unknown to me then), their interpretation of the novel and the lavish production. From then on, I devored all but one novel (Mansfield Park) which I plan to start soon and recently went on a bookshopping spree on the classic Middlemarch, Jane Eyre, Wuthering Heights and Great xpectations and the likes. Discovered first Mr. HC page and then, with all astonishments, Amy's wonderful P&P2 BB. Lurking more than posting, the latter requires my English/French dictionary and a lot more time than usual, and therefore not expressing all I have bottled up inside (makes me more shy but I must conquer this) but finding very similar comments from other addicts. Enjoying every moments in your company and kindred spirits among this bunch. Wished for 48/72 hours days so I can indulge further in my prefered hobby (my daily fix of this and the tapes), this chatting and exchanging group with so many great people. As always grateful to Amy, Alicia and now Terry. And... ..., in vain I have struggled. It will not do. My feelings will not be repressed. You must allow me to tell you that Mr. Darcy lives. I met him about ten years ago, same voice, same accent and (almost) same face (eyes, mouth, chin, dark hair) and need I say what more. Unfortunetaly, he left for another country and my love story did not have a JA's happy ending. So you can imagine what it is to watch this. Took me a while to get over it, as Captain Wentworth says : you can not forget, but did find a nice a d comprehensive Mr. Bingley which, when I became older and more mature, I learn to love and appreciate a less passionnate but very true love (maybe like the Gardiner's one). He'll love me till I'm four-and-sixty (Beatles) and so will I. Sorry for the looonnnnggg post, but I'm sure you'll excuse me, this one serving for all the others I intended to send.
~Amy #92
Oh, Johanne. Go on. Give in to the urge. It will do you good.
~JohanneD #93
As you probably understood, mispelling : debacle, not decable (it is certainly not Jim-Cable-Guy addiction were having here)
~lisaC #94
Hello! My name is Lisa and I also hail from Montreal. I'm 24 years old and am currently studying to earn an accounting designation. I became a Jane Austen fanatic after viewing P&P2 on A&E in August. Ever since I have read all her books except for Persuasion. However, I must say that may favorite is Pride & Prejudice. I was extremely happy that the TV version remained so faithful to the book but I was a little upset that it didn't feature the part at the end when Lizzie asks Darcy when he first fell in lo e with her. Those would have been terrific scenes! I have been a lurker on Amy's BB since September and have enjoyed everyone's comments tremendously. You all have such fascinating insight and have made me appreciate and understand P&P more than I ever thought imagineable. I never thought I could love fictional characters so much but I find myself engrossed in their lives and feelings. I want to thank you all for giving me such enjoyment in the past few months and for providing Darcy and Lizzie fans with place to convene and discuss their obssession.
~Amy #95
Thanks for coming out, Lisa. And welcome, officially.
~PatK #96
I live in a Dallas suburb and do software (mainframe) support for a major software company. I discovered JA after P&P2 so came to her late as I am five and forty. I am happily single with two dogs for company. My sister and her two kids live close by so I try to be a good aunt. I grew up in the military and then joined the Navy after a couple of years of college so continued to move. I finished my degree in comp sci and worked for an oil company for 12 years which meant more moving. I've been in Dallas for 8 years and plan to stay in Texas. Other than P&P2, JA, this grou and CF -- my interests include science fiction books (Asimov, McCaffrey, Eddings, Lackey, Card, Niven, Herbert) and shows (Star Trek, TNG, DS9, Voyager and Babylon 5), reading in general, music, puzzles, videos and playing on the PC. I use Netscape Gold 3.0 to access this happy stuff through Internet America.
~PatK #97
I live in a Dallas suburb and do software (mainframe) support for a major software company. I discovered JA after P&P2 so came to her late as I am five and forty. I am happily single with two dogs for company. My sister and her two kids live close by so I try to be a good aunt. I grew up in the military and then joined the Navy after a couple of years of college so continued to move. I finished my degree in comp sci and worked for an oil company for 12 years which meant more moving. I've been in Dallas for 8 years and plan to stay in Texas. Other than P&P2, JA, this grou and CF -- my interests include science fiction books (Asimov, McCaffrey, Eddings, Lackey, Card, Niven, Herbert) and shows (Star Trek, TNG, DS9, Voyager and Babylon 5), reading in general, music, puzzles, videos and playing on the PC. I use Netscape Gold 3.0 to access this happy stuff through Internet America.
~terry #98
Welcome Pat, I'm your neighbor to the South in Austin. Have fun here!
~Carolineevans #99
To Lisa C. and Johanne, Salut! Bienvenue! Nous sommes presque voisins...... Cela fait longtemps depuis que nous vous n'avons pas regarde puis, c'est tres gentille de vous de nous rendre visite............ And that, I promise is the last time I attempt French without a proper keyboard... Its great to know that our numbers are growing.
~lisaC #100
A Caroline Evans Merci de votre accueil! Pardonnez-moi pour mes fautes de grammaire. Ca fait six ans que je n'ai pas �cris une composition en fran�ais parce que j'ai pris mes �tudes coll�giales en anglais. De plus, je ne suis pas d'origine fran�aise. Mes parents viennent de l'Italie et ma langue maternelle est anglaise. I'd like to thank you for making me feel so welcomed and for conversing in a different language. This indicates to me that the love we feel for Darcy and Lizzie crosses all borders and that a good story can be enjoyed by all cultures.
~churchh #101
Some of Jane Austen's novels were already translated into French in the 1810's and 1820's, but I doubt whether she got any royalties from the translations, and apparently some of the translators felt free t use a free hand in "improving" her novels (I think I remember reading that at least one of them added in passionate scenes of the type that some of you are disappointed that Austen didn't write...).
~Amy #102
] translated into French in the 1810's and 1820's, but I doubt whether she got any royalties from the translations, and apparently some of the translators felt free t use a free hand in "improving" her novels (I think I remember reading that at least one of them added in passionate scenes _____________________ Tell, tell H.
~churchh #103
I've told everything I remember. You can look up the article on translations of Jane Austen (titles "Jane Austen Abroad", or something like that) in the bibliographies on my site...
~Amy #104
] I've told everything I remember. ________________- So what? I can still pout, can't I? I can still be Mary Musgrove. You are so unkind.
~JohanneD #105
Tr�s ch�res Lisa et Caroline, vous me voyez des plus heureuses de pouvoir partager cette passion avec vous, charmantes voisines ainsi que ces quelques mots dans la langue de Moli�re. How conforting to find fellow addicts around the corner and that this jolly group is spreading at such a rate in our global village. By the way, Kaffeine, your were the first web page I found on my first day on the internet, re. Emma thus J. Northam. Keep up the good work. It looks like a small world, doesnt it? To Sir H.C., much interested in translation you mention above. Unfortunately, did not find the matching coordinates in your bibliography. Any more info you can give me on this? Should I inquire on the Net, maybe in Europe (France) for more details? Any leads by anyone appreciated. If I find anything, be sure to be inform. Leaving for Europe (virtually), be back soon Tahtah
~terry #106
How delightful to see French scrolling across the screen. Bon voyage, I would love to open an entirely French speaking conference some day.
~Trenton #107
I am still "all astonishment!" I can't believe how much A&E's production of Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice has influenced me; during my University years, I avoided Austen's work, judging it to be shallow, categorizing Pride and Prejudice as a typical Nineteenth Century romance novel. Indeed, the high-society setting and matrimonial subject matter are normally very big turn-offs for me, yet I must admit that I enjoyed Pride and Prejudice. It seems that Austen's work translates to the screen extremely well, enhancing at least my com rehension of the larger themes she is trying to express-- something I just didn't obtain when I first read this work in school. This newly acquired influence has led me to purchase a collection of Jane Austen's work (and discover this conference). The second reading confirmed my change of heart, from "all dreariness" to "all astonishment!" Warmest Regards, Trenton A. Scott Aged: 31 years Occupation: Software Engineer Living in: Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA Undergraduate: B.S., Computer Science Technology, University of Southern Colorado Post-graduate: M.S., Computer Information Systems, Colorado State University Internet: Trenton_Scott@msn.com
~JohanneD #108
Terry, regarding : "I would love to open an entirely French speaking conference some day", I would absolutely appreciate it a very great deal. I must share to you that I'm now close to completely internet illiterate. Can log in and barely surf. But do not despair, planning to take a crash course in a few weeks. Having done three years of College condensed in the last one, let say I take a break from feeding my brain while urgently looking for a job and infringing on my sleep with other tasks. But I am truly dedi ated (hooked) on this addiction, most interested in this and will surely reply favorably to your request in a very near future. Wondering who else would be interested, anyone out there whishing to talkle this in la langue de Moli�re instead of Shakespeare ? How about a survey to if any demand for it. And Caroline, what did you think of the translation ? Lisa, have you seen both and if so, pray tell me your comments.
~lisaC #109
To Johanne de Montr�al I was only able to catch the last three episodes of P&P on SRC. I have to say that I found the translation to be excellent and enjoyed it immensely. I was trying to figure out who "played" the role of Darcy. His voice sounded very familiar to me but I couldn't make it out. When I found out that it was going to be broadcasted on SRC I was delighted because I was interested in seeing the missing scenes that A&E didn't show. I was, and still am too cheap to purchase an original version! I noticed however tha SRC edited some of the scenes with Mr. Collins out as well. What a shame for I find him to be so comically condescending. En tous cas, cela son mes br�ves commentaires. J'ai un examen ce soir et je devrais me concenter sur �a et non pas sur cette passion qui me pr�occupe la majorit� du temps. Passez une belle journ�e et � la prochaine fois!
~churchh #110
Query: Who is the French Jane Austen?
~JohanneD #111
Henry, could you elaborate - nature of your question, please
~churchh #112
What's the French-language author who is most analogous to Jane Austen in English literature? Doesn't necessarily have to be 18th or 19th century or female, but extra points if that's the case... :-)
~Nicole #113
Bonjour Johanne, Lisa, Caroline et les autres... D'une autre francaise, de Winnipeg. J'ai vu les emmissions en francais apres les avoir vu en anglais , parce que j'etais addicter par ce temps la, mais une des emmission avait "pre-emptee" pour parler de Robert Bourassa, est -ce-qu'el a jouer plus tard sinon les quebecois on du manquer une parti imp- ortante la deuxieme ou troisieme je crois. La translation etait tres bonnes..J . Mais en anglais avec la voix de Colin Firth je peux fondre. Est-ce-que vous regarder presentement Margerite Volant? Commentaire... Je trouve que Margerite a l'apparence un peu dure, Je suis contente qu'elle a finalement epouser la Cap. Shane. Please forgive me my engish friends for not translating this completely, i n french we didn't have the great pleasure of hearing Colin Firth's great voice. In "Another Country" his voice didn't sound as mature as it does now. Nicole
~jwinsor #114
"Passez une belle journ�e" Oh no! Say it isn't so! "Have a nice day" has also infiltrated the French language? ;-)
~JohanneD #115
Nicole, bienvenue � bord - welcome abord ! As for the special broadcast regarding Premier Bourassa's death, it was aired during the entire evening thus the P&P (O&P) episode (the third, if not mistaken) was broadcast the following friday. Probably due to lots of complaints. Malheureusement, I'm not following M. Volant. Saw a couple episodes at the beginning of season, was surprise how long it took for the story to pick up speed, �a m'a tout simplement d�courag�. But wonderful costumes and settings for the period piece genre. Still lavish and very good actors. Considering the budget aloud compare to BBC, they're doing miracles with what they have. Remorse : I should have stick to it, will see it on video soon. Dear Joan, if you only knew how americanized our North American French as become, not to mention what goes on in France itself, you would'nt believe... The structure of phrases are more and more constructed and based on english, and yes we too are pleagued with close to illiteracy, loosing grammar, style, structure, etc. Sir HC, will keep you posted for JA's equivalent.
~Ann #116
Is Bourassa ill again?
~lisaC #117
Mr. Bourassa (the former Premier of Quebec) died of cancer a few months ago. He was in his sixties if I'm not mistaken.
~Jessica #118
Greetings and salutations! My name is Jessica, and I am a student at Penn State University, working on a degree in Hotel/Restaurant Management (at the moment...this may change). I am not yet twenty, but have been a Jane Austen fan for about 7 years now. I adore the A&E/BBC P&P miniseries--I first saw it last year when my roommate's mom taped it and sent it to her, and have been a fan ever since. I am an avid reader of just about anything I can get my hands on, and I also enjoy music (I play the flute) and "meddling on the computer," as my roommates like to say. I am very glad I found all of you and I would like to contribute whenever I have anything worthwhile to say :-) Thank you to Amy and Terry and all the powers that be for setting up this conference! --Jessica
~Carolineevans #119
Nicole...."Another Country" in the "Have you noticed...." thread. AS-tu vu le nouveau fil de Johanne(de Montreal)?
~terry #120
Welcome Jessica, I'm 10 minutes into the first intallment of P&P. I'm watching the first commercial.
~Nicole #121
Hi Caroline, Yes I noticed your thread, but responded to it all in one message, and have seen Johanne new one and I enjoy your comments very much indeed! Nicole
~Amy #122
] 10 minutes into the first intallment of P&P. Terry! You warm our hearts.
~mrobens #123
]Welcome Jessica, I'm 10 minutes into the first intallment of P&P. I'm watching the first commercial. Terry, Glad to see you got the tapes. Try fast forward. Myretta
~terry #124
I'm hoping to see a Packard Bell ad, not luck so far. I got up to the scene with Mrs. PHllips and Mr. Bingeley arrives on horseback. And Mr. D'Arcy is riding off after glancing another one of those looks of astoneishement.
~geekman #125
So Terry, How is our Austinite enjoying being an Austenite? From an Aussie Austenite!
~terry #126
It's fun watching this series. On to tape 2!
~Ann #127
Oh what fun it would be to be able to watch it for the first time again!
~PatK #128
Amy -- FYI, I am trying to incorporate the above data into my P&P2 database with the where/age info already obtained. -- Pat
~Amy #129
] incorporate the above data into my P&P2 database ___ Thanks, Anne. You may want to talk to Katy, who is thinking about how to redo the bios.
~Kali #130
This thread is damn long.
~Ann #131
Thanks for lengthening it Kali!
~MaryC #132
Try selecting "ALL" and "NEW" at the top of the list; that way you only have to read the lastest additions.
~norma #133
Greetings to all! I am so happy to have found this group. I have been an Austen fan for thirty years, since first reading P&P. For years I have felt alone in the wilderness with my addiction. My family has regarded me with amused tolerance for years--I have hopes that my daughter will become a fellow addict, however. She also loved all the JA movies. The best thing about A&E's production of P&P is that it has brought fellow addicts out of the closet! I am a teacher in Denver.
~Amy #134
Welcome, Norma. How did you happen to find us? I stopped promoting back in September and so far as I know the only links are from Internet Movie Database, Yahoo, Jane Austen Info page and the Firth FAQ. Amy
~norma #135
Amy, I found you because I was looking! To relax when I get home from work, I like to slip P&P2 into the VCR and watch a few episodes. Those few minutes make the rest of the day tolerable. But like other isolated addicts, I have no one to discuss my addiction with. As I said, I think my daughter is getting there, but she's in college. I found you only recently because I was only connected to the Internet about a week ago. In fact, I am in my classroom at school (between classes), and I am starting a class on the Internet today--a requirement for having it in my classroom.
~churchh #136
Amy, I ran the search command link:http://www.bluemarble.net/~amyloo/wwwboard/ppbb.html at http://ultra.infoseek.com/ and got the following results: The AUSTEN-L Mailing List Return to Jane Austen info page *See also the Jane Austen Society *Go to the Pride and Prejudice movie discussion bulletin board *Go to article on AUSTEN-L *Go to an MSNBC article on ... 86% http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/austen-l.html (Size 1.0K) Jane Austen's novels: BBC and other Film/Video adaptations "So she won't be available for book signing?" -- An anonymous American network executive, on being told that Pride and Prejudice was published for the first time in 1813. 86% http://moe.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/jabbcvid.html (Size 18.9K) Amy Bellinger - Page One Amy Bellinger's Sight This site is divided into a number of parts: The World Nap Organization pages. If you cherish your naps but feel a little guilty about taking them, join our ... 85% http://www.bluemarble.net/~amyloo/ (Size 1.4K) Cinema Sites: Section 2 An Index of Motion Picture and Television Resources 78% http://www.webcom.com/davidaug/Movie_SitesS2.html (Size 25.6K) Jane Austen Info Page Compendious page devoted to Jane Austen, English novelist 1775-1817; has illustrated hypertext of Pride and Prejudice, HTML e-texts of her letters and many `minor works', biographical .. 78% http://curly.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/janeinfo.html (Size 39.0K) VoS English Literature: Romantics [IMAGE: Colorful fabric weave] VOICE OF THE SHUTTLE: ENGLISH LITERATURE ROMANTICS (see also French Revolution) [Previous Page] [SEARCH THE SERVER] [Next Page] Main English Page * ... 78% http://humanitas.ucsb.edu/shuttle/eng-rom.html (Size 15.8K) Colin Firth FAQ v. 1.7 Colin Firth FAQ version 1.7 November 15, 1996 Colin Firth Frequently Asked Questions Version 1.7 11/15/96 Compiled by Ellen Armstrong kenellen@teleport.com I. Colin Firth II. Films ... 78% http://www.teleport.com/~kenellen/firthfaq.htm (Size 58.4K) VoS English Literature: Romantics [IMAGE: Colorful fabric weave] VOICE OF THE SHUTTLE: ENGLISH LITERATURE ROMANTICS (see also French Revolution) [Previous Page] [SEARCH THE SERVER] [Next Page] Main English Page * ... 78% http://humanitas.ucsb.edu/shuttle/incoming/eng-rom.htm (Size 15.8K) Voice of the Shuttle: New Links Page oooooo oooo .oooooo..o `888. .8' d8P' `Y8 `888. .8' .ooooo. Y88bo. `888. .8' d88' `88b ``Y8888o. `888.8' 888 888 ``Y88b `888' 888 888 oo .d8P `8' `Y8bod8P' 8``88888P' ooooo ooo ... 78% http://humanitas.ucsb.edu/shuttle/incoming/new.htm (Size 15.8K) Yahoo! - Arts:Humanities:Literature:Genres:Literary Fiction:Authors:Austen, Jane (1775-1817):Pride and Prejudice [Menu Bar] [Click here for Night of the Living Yahoo!] Top:Arts:Humanities:Literature:Genres:Literary Fiction:Authors:Austen, Jane (1775 ... 78% http://www.yahoo.com/Arts/Humanities/Literature/Genres/Literary_Fiction/Authors/Austen__Jane__1775_1817_/Pride_and_Prejudice/ (Size 2.6K) Image Index of http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/ Image Index [`Top 99% of all Web sites (1% are worse): Pointless' parody] [`Enhanced for Lynx' parody] *Return to list of HTML files in this directory Please don't take a lot of these .. 78% http://moe.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/imgindex.html (Size 48.2K) Voice of the Shuttle: New Links Page oooooo oooo .oooooo..o `888. .8' d8P' `Y8 `888. .8' .ooooo. Y88bo. `888. .8' d88' `88b ``Y8888o. `888.8' 888 888 ``Y88b `888' 888 888 oo .d8P `8' `Y8bod8P' 8``88888P' ooooo ooo ... 78% http://humanitas.ucsb.edu/shuttle/new.html (Size 15.8K) Ostentatious Jane's "Jane Austen" Page Everything about my favourite author 78% http://www2.hunterlink.net.au/~ddibd/jane/jane.html (Size 6.3K)
~churchh #137
Of course, http://us.imdb.com/ was not included in the above, because they use CGI instead of static web-pages, I think...
~Kaffeine #138
HC - Great minds... When I read Amy's post wondering where her page had been found, I did the same thing you did - but you beat me to it! :)
~Amy #139
Thanks, H. I didn't know Infoseek had that feature. Apparently it gives a more comprehensive result that Alta Vista's, which I checked last several weeks ago; it turned up nothing. How many links are there to the JA info page. Hundreds, I'd imagine.
~geekman #140
Amy: In Alta Vista there are so many links to Henry's JA Info page(s) that I think most people wouldn't get past the first 7 or 8 pages without seeing an alternative JA page!
~churchh #141
Ian, what you're talking about is the results of doing a search on the words "Jane Austen", or something similar... What Amy was referring to was finding out the number of external pages that link to ones own page. I just ran the search +link:cc.utexas.edu.churchh.janeinfo.html -host:cc.utexas.edu on Altavista, and all it told me was "about 1000". One reason is that my pages have been "officially" up since Jan. 1995 (and some people, including Yahoo, started linking to them even before that -- that was when Yahoo was being run out of a Stanford dorm room...)
~mich #142
H.C. I've often wondered how this all came about for you. What got you started and how long did it take to compile? Your page is so comprehensive, I must say it's very impressive. Mich
~AnitaV #143
Hello! I am an 33 year old American, married with no children hopelessly addicted to P&P(needless to say, my husband does not share my addiction). I have read all of Jane Austen's other books and P&P is my favorite with Sense & Sensibility next. Prior to the 1995 adaptation, BBC produced a version for Masterpiece Theater in 1979. (OOPs, showing my age!) It was while watching that presentation that I fell in love with the story. Imagine my joy when a new adaptation was created. It was a treasure from beginning to end. I have enjoyed "surfin' the net" reading all the webpages connected with P&P. Talk to you soon! I did'nt realize what a following the A&E production had until one Friday(it was a slow day at work),I searched the internet for Colin Firth and wound up here.
~Hilary #144
Welcome, Anita. You might have found a home.
~Kathy #145
Hello, fellow addicts! My name is Kathy Heilmann, and I hail from Los Altos, California, USA (in "Silicon Valley," near San Francisco). I am married, 30-years-old, no kids (yet), Marketing Manager for a high tech company. My fascination with Austen started several years ago (before Austinmania, actually) when I re-read several of her novels while on vacation. But I got seriously addicted when P&P2 came on TV here in the US almost a year ago. I missed the first pair of episodes on TV (didn't make it a high priority), but sat down to watch the second pair of episodes, and was hooked fifteen minutes into it! I couldn't convince my husband to watch with me that evening, but I teased him into watching the third pair of episo es with me the following evening. He got hooked too! Now we are both truly devoted P&P2 fans, and we have converted many of our formerly skeptical friends and family, too. We have watched the complete set (of course we bought the videos) at least a dozen times... I have spent many happy hours perusing Henry Churchyard's excellent Web site, but I had never come here until recently, so I am glad to have found a safe haven for my addiction! It's going to be a Jane Austen Christmas for me, as I've asked for all the old and new film and video adaptations of her novels. I'm anxiously awaiting the release of BBC's Emma, though I don't think that anything could equal the standards set by P&P2! Kathy
~Kali #146
I'm looking for excuses to procrastinate, and so I'm going to take this opportunity to remedy the fact that I never properly introduced myself here at the Spring. My name is Kali. I am one-and-twenty. I study political science and classical civilization at UC Berkeley. I can't wait to graduate. When I do, I'll move on to an even larger hell in law school. Joy, joy. I hate school. My favorite Austen books are P&P, or course, and Emma. I'm going crazy. I hate finals. ARRRRGGGHHH! - K
~Anne3 #147
Hello, everybody. I've been lurking around here for the last few weeks, since I got on to the Internet at work, and loving every minute of it. I haven't been able to post, however, since we're not allowed to send out messages in any way other than conventional e-mail. But now that I'm set up at home I hope to join in the general silliness from time to time. I'm a technical editor, live in the NYC area, and have been a JA addict since age 14 (eight and twenty years ago--cripes!) and have seen almost all the film/tv adaptations, but none has hooked me like P&P2. And now this conference! Do you folks know how dangerous it is? I don't just mean all the time torn away from work, play, sleep, etc., to go online, but the effects of remembering certain posts at inconvenient times, like when you're on the bus or subway or walking down the street or (disasterously) in business meetings. You start to giggle to yourself, trying to keep it in, but people see your shaking shoulders and facial contortions and begin to eye you uneasily & edge away. I fear my reputation is quite, quite ruined in certain quarters.
~terry #148
Welcome Kathy, Kali and Anne III. Three seriously addicted-to-P&P persons! I think you've found your place. Feel free to roam around the big Spring country too. I'll be watching the last in the three part P&P tapes tomorrow night. Tonights an "off" night (no P&P tape).
~Kali #149
Terry, I've been here for awhile. I'm a pre-Spring P&P'er, so to speak. The other regulars will vouch for that fact. I'm just a procrastinator, finding new reasons not to remove my butt from the computer desk. The other regulars will also vouch for that (esp. the chat room people)...;) - K
~jwinsor #150
Kali! Why aren't you studying! Remove your butt instantly from the computer desk. (Yes, she is, indeed, a regular, having logged more cosecutive hours at the computer desk than most could and still be awake to type about it.) vouch, vouch, vouch ;-)
~jane #151
To the new people who have recently introduced yourselves: while of course you are unique and special people, when it comes to your P&P obsession you have described the classic symptoms---we've been there, done that! I bet you recognized yourselves on the "signs of addiction" thread. Welcome! Kali, I am glad you formally introduced yourself---I feel I know lots about you from your posts, but didn't know what you were up to in those brief moments when you were out of touch with the Austen board. I'm with Joan, too though---take a short break and then back to the books. We want you to get into a really good law school, and make us all proud. :) Jane
~Kali #152
Love you guys! ;)
~donr #153
Hello Y'all. I have been following your chatty buletin board for some time with considerable interest. Your discussions have heightened my appreciation of P&P, both the televised drama and the novel. I am a professor of organic chemistry, involved in work quite unrelated to English drama; but over the last several months I have acquired a strong admiration and regard for a most enjoyable story. My interest in P&P goes back to 1985 when my daughters, who were wataching the P&P1 series, talked me into wa ching it along with them. Much to my surprise, I found Elizabeth Garvie's portrayal of Elizabeth to be enjoyable. However, it was not until last February, when I saw Jennifer Ehle's portrayal of Elizabeth, that I was really captivated by the story. Shortly, thereafter, I read the novel which captivated my interest. Relative to the tv edition, I found the last three chapters of the novel to be a source of pure enjoyment. I must say, like countless others before me, Elizabeth Bennet is a very captivating y ung lady.
~Amy #154
Thanks for coming out, Donald. How long have you been with us?
~terry #155
We're always glad when someone emerges from the woodwork. One sometimes wonders who lurks there.
~mpk #156
I just found you all today! It's wonderful to find others who are intensely interested in P&P, especially in CF. I'm very much an Internet novice and was motivated to explore the 'net to find CF and/or P&P references. I'm a mom and public interest atty, in that order. P&P has definitely sparked my interest in reading JA books. I've read some of the topics in this "place" (forgive my computer lingo ignorance...I'll learn in time) and have thoroughly enjoyed the comments.
~geekman #157
G'day All you Newcomers and You Lurkers!
~Amy #158
Glad you did find us, Marina. Where are you from?
~eljo #159
Is there room for one more addict??? My name is Elisabeth and I've been a P&P2 addict since it first was aired here in Sweden a year ago. The facination with Jane Austen and her book I guess originates from living in England for a year and discovering Penguins �1 books. For a living I'm doing a PhD in Materials Engineering but far too much time is spent following this brilliant conference. At the moment I'm suffering from severe withdrawal symtomps since I've had no access to a VCR for more than a month. Luckily thre a some things that can cheer me up, Colin Firth in Nostromo and the adaption of Moll Flanders screenplayed by none other than Andrew Davies.
~Amy #160
Welcome to you, Elisabeth. How long have you been hanging around? Long enough to get to know your charming countrywoman, Ann2, I am sure. We have Anna-Karin on occasion too, but those distinctions matter little here.
~donr #161
Amy, thank you for your welcome. I have followed this bulletin board group only for a few weeks. Since last February, however, I have been reading P&P with many real life experiences in mind. I cannot help but be highly amused when I see Darcy making the same mistakes that so many men do, i. e., slighting a young lady when first met who later becomes the love of their life. And then, Elizabeth's response, which makes him dance to her tune until he finally makes amends for his BIG mistake and gains her affection. Jane Austin describes all this in such a delightful way that you cannot help but become almost a part of a the virtual world of the Bennet family, not real but very close to it.
~terry #162
There are a few Swedish folks hanging out in the TransSoft Mail Control topic in the apps conference (TransSoft is a Swedish company).
~mpk #163
Thank you for your welcome, Amy. I live in South San Francisco with my two daughters and hubby. I can't wait to get my hands on the P&P videotapes that I'll be getting for X-mas. In the meantime, I'm taking some time off from work so I'll head over to the library and check out JA's book. Looking forward to posting some comments on the other topics.
~Bernie #164
Donald, another chemist! Where do you teach/work?
~ValR #165
Now, I am no longer a lurker! I discovered P&P on the bookshelf in the library when I was 13. I loved the title and I read it regularly (twice a year!) until my mid twenties.. I'm 39 now, and had for a long time surrendered my love for P&P to Persuasion (admitting that being older, the Anne Elliot was more my style than Lizzy). You can't imagine how excited I was to see P&P1 on Masterpiece theater years ago. I recently bought it and realize now how astonishingly good P&P2 is. I don't have cable, and my Mother bought the tapes for me last January. I received them in March and stayed up all night watching them. (Couldn't turn it off). I have been hanging around this place since early September... (as I said lurking) and am happy to see that there are other addicts to Jane A. I would like to say a heart-felt thank you to the Mysterious H.C. and his work on the Jane Austen sight. I discovered it last May, and it was just what an addict needed.
~Amy #166
Thanks for coming out, Val. Have you found you watch less after having been able to talk it to death?
~Mari #167
Like Kali, I was first a lurker (since August) on the old P&P2BB, and then a sporadic participant. I have continued in the same fashion here on Spring. I had my 41st BD on 12/5 (five days before Kenneth Branagh's 36th BD). I am the internal purchasing agent for a Warehouse Distribution Managment Software Company in Waukesha, WI (suburb of Milwaukee). Hubby is a metallurgical engineer (rolls his eyes when he comes into the room and P&P is on ''again''). The few times that my 4-1/2 year old twin girls have watched portions of P&P with me they have stopped talking, and sat down to watch...future Austenites, to be sure! I was a very big fan of P&P1, and still think that Garvie has the edge over Ehle as Elizabeth. I have found that the difference for me is Davies; his interpretation, interpolation and fabrication are so superior, that I sometimes forget that Jane did not write the actual words of many scenes. I love Firth as Darcy, but find that I love the humor and companionship of this group even more!
~jane #168
Mari, How fun twin girls must be! I have a 2 and a half year old girl, but I can't imagine 2 at the same time at this age, but 4-1/2 year old P&P watchers: what could be sweeter?
~Amy #169
Thanks for telling us about you, Mari. What do you think Garvie does better, or why is she just a better Lizzy, in your view? I am sure we'll be talking about this a lot after the VirtView.
~jane #170
Amy, again we were reading the same thread at the same time! I look forward to participating in the tail end of the VirtView. Several people seem to prefer Garvie, and it will be fun to hear the various, as usual strong opinions on the subject.
~jane #171
~donr #172
Bernie, I teach at Louisiana Tech in, of course, Louisiana. My time is evenly divided between research and lecture. Nevertheless, I am very much smitten by P&P. It seems that each time I read it or view P&P2 I find some new morsel to savor.
~Meggin #173
Finally I've found the perfect website for me. I first watched P&P2 on A&E's replay in late January/early February. My addiction since then has become the joke of my sometimes intolerant family. (you're watching it again?) After watching it the first time, I became P&P obsessed and read the novel more than a dozen times continuously, until my beleagured husband bought the film set for me. Life's been so difficult---I graduated from college and did my student teaching all while under the Austen spell! I have 4 children (girls 16 and 14, boys 11 and mr. surprise--19months). No one understands my addiction for the best novel I have ever read and the perfect adaptation of it.
~Amy #174
Welcome, Margaret. What about your daughters? Do they get it at all? (re Mr Surprise --- ohhhhh...)
~Meggin #175
Katie (16) is too impatient to watch anything that is 6 tapes long. Diana (14) did enjoy it but she thinks I've gone over the edge. Anyway, one can't gush too much about Darcy with one's 14 year old daughter, can one---even though she noted that "Darcy must be interested in Lizzie since he's standing in front of that window with his robe open--guess he's hoping she'll look up!" Scott, aka mr. surprise, was the shock of my life. I adore him now, but cried the entire pregnancy---just not what I needed at age 38. Plus the little imp weighed more than 10.5 lbs. A long boring saga, but a perfect, beautiful baby. Thanks for the welcome!
~geekman #176
Yes G'day Margaret, it's wonderful to welcome another addict. Care to join for another fix? ;)
~Ann #177
I have a friend who gave birth to twins, both of whom were over eight pounds! Now that's a lot of kid.
~Meggin #178
Good day to you, Ian. I don't understand the rest of your message--how does one join? I thought I had. Ann, I pity your friend. Sixteen plus pounds of baby is way too much. Ten and a half almost killed me (not literally).
~geekman #179
A-ha Margaret I was only "pulling your leg"! You know how much us Aussies tend to joke about. But welcome you are to our group. Because you are here you're indulging your JA and P&P2 addiction. Or do you just enjoy the chatting? ;)
~Meggin #180
Thanks again for the welcome, Ian. I am a chatterer, but I am here to feed my Jane Austen addiction. I've been cruising the threads---just hadn't jumped in yet. I will soon though--I was terribly sorry that I missed the ball (I love a ball!).
~Pandora620 #181
~Mari #182
''How fun twin girls must be! I have a 2 and a half year old girl, but I can't imagine 2 at the same time at this age...'' - Jane Jane, I am shocked and grieved; I reread my message (posted in haste before I flew off to finish my Christmas shopping), and saw that I had neglected to put MY OWN just-2-year-old girl into my bio! My ''pudgy-pie'' was born two weeks before my 39th BD, but THAT pregnancy was a piece of cake compared to the twins, so no complaints here! ''What do you think Garvie does better, or why is she just a better Lizzy, in your view? I am sure we'll be talking about this a lot after the VirtView.'' - Amy Amy, I was reserving my comments for the VirtView. I have already noted a few others who liked Garvie, so I'm interested in the full discussion when we all weigh in with our viewpoints together.
~RikkiJ #183
I am soon to be 8 and twenty, I am married, and have 3 step-children (2 are 9-year old identical twin girls). I am an Administrative Assistant for a Head Hunting firm in Laguna Beach, CA -- where I grew up and now live. I have an unrelated BFA degree in Theatrical Stage Management from USC. My Husband is French, a Pastry Chef, and... you guessed it, his name is Pierre. His son, Regis, lives with us in Laguna, and the twins, Valerie and Colette live with their mother in San Diego, but visit on weekends. I first discovered P&P1 when it ran on Masterpiece Theatre, it played the year before I started High School. Here in Laguna we get 3 PBS Stations, so naturally, I watched each episode 6 times. I went to the library and read the book, twice. Then I watched it again when they re-ran it later in the season. In 9th grade, it was required reading, so I read it again. Over the years, I read it about 3 more times, and loved it more each time. Then came P&P2. I watched each episode on A&E twice, and taped it to watch again and again. I got my mother hooked, and she is always borrowing my tape. Eventhough we had it on tape, when A&E re-ran it I again watched each episode twice. In the meantime, there was Persuasion, which I dragged my 87-year old grandmother to. (She doesn't get the accent.) I talked about it so much that my parents drove all the way to Santa Monica to see it because it was no longer showing in Orange County. And, Sense & Sensibility, which my whole family adored. I broke down and purchased both Persuasion and S&S on tape, but never got P&P2 (a wee dear for my budget). But I did get it for my mother for Christmas and her birthday (in January). My husband only saw S&S, and every time I watch P&P2, he makes some snide comment. But I don't care! I have been enraptured with JA's works for 17 years, and am content. Sorry for the long post, but I thought I should get it all out of my system. Rikki
~RikkiJ #184
By the way, the e-mail address linked to my name is my bosses work address. My work address is: caorange@aol.com
~Amy #185
Welcome Rickki.
~Cheryl #186
Rikki, you sound like a true addict and are most welcome here!
~terry #187
Great intro Rikki! Glad you made the landing here.
~Carolineevans #188
Hi Rikki! Nice to meet you. Do not despair of your husband.It has taken mine a year to sit down with me and watch all of it.He still cannot take more than 1 hour at a time, but he does admit to liking the story now.
~LIZZY #189
Hello!!! I'm an 18 year old freshman at George Mason University in Virginia. Lets see of course My hobbies are reading Jane Austen Books and watching the movies. I'm a helpless addict to P&P and Colin Firth!!! Other hobbies are skiing and snowboarding.
~JohanneD #190
Welcome Rikki, know what you mean, hubby at that stage too. Welcome to you too Lizzy, any similarities with our heroine outside the name? Skiing and snowboarding a modern version version of scampering around? ;-)
~Lin #191
Hi all! I'm 16 and living in Canada. I've been reading the posts on the old BB and have just started posting. I'm addicted to P&P and can't stop!
~kendall #192
Hi. Lin and Welcome. I am Canadian myself although I live in Tennessee now. Enjoy the company of your fellow addicts. You are not alone!
~sysop #193
Katy, I did not know you were a Canadian. Welcome Lin. How many times have you watched it?
~Lin #194
Seen it 3 times and counting and read the novel too many times to count!
~mrcollins10 #195
I'm now just 55, nearing retirement and dearly love both the fiction and letters of Ms Austen. A lot of spare time spent on JA and the Regency in general. Love talking with anyone interested in the same. Just recently I had the pleasure of listening to Karlyn Bond's new CD of pianoforte works; some from JA's own collection of sheet music, others from the Regency period; Mozart, Hayden and so forth. Very nice. Recommend it to all. I live in LA; will move to Santa Maria CA soon. Married; no kids. This conference is a treasure!
~Amy #196
Thanks for telling us about yourself, Carl. How about your favorite heroine. See heroine's thread. Where is Santa Maria?
~mrcollins10 #197
Thanx for the welcome, Amy. Santa Maria is about 180 miles up north from Los Angeles proper. Fav heroine? Anne Elliot. Can't be two opinions on that. Happy New Year to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Emma's Coming on A&E!
~Gabriella #198
First of all: Hallo to you all!! Was very hnappy when I found this site!! so.. Thought I'd throw in my short bio.. Read P&P for the first time when I was 10, saw the 1985 adaption when on holiday in England and well, I was hooked!! Have seen that adaption and read almost all of Jane's works _many_ times since.. But when thelatest P&P came, with Colin.,. what can I say... It's the best in some way.. certainly Colin is THE sweetie. So, I got the video of couse and can't stop watching it. Looking forward to Fever Pitch too, as I just adore the book!! Recommend it for you all, and if you know a man that's a football fanatic I bet that you'll understand him much better after reading it :) About Austen's works.. Maybe after all Emma and Persuation as books are more of my favs.. but I've read P&P more times... Well, about me... I'm 19, lives in Lund, originally from Gothenburg. (In Sweden) A student of Geology for the moment but probably changing to Chinese this autumn.. What else.. Just got access to a computer during the hols (when I'm home) BUT maybe maybe that'll change soon... I really really hope so :) Happy New Year to you all btw!!! Just about 2hr left of 1996 here in Sweden :)
~Donna #199
Welcome Gabriella and Carl. My husband is a football fantic and Nostromois on PBS Sunday January 5th,Carl hope you can see it. I can't wait to see EMMA.
~Gabriella #200
Just thought about smthg... For you Americans, how much do you know about "european football" e.g soccer? Fever Pitch IS about Arsenal a lot.. but well, I don't think it really matters, obsession as obsession.. Anyone over there that has read Fever Pitch? Comments? But still, I hightly recommend it AND Nick Hornby's other book High Fidelity might be more universal btw :)
~Donna #201
Gabriella, my three kids ages 13,9, and 6 all play soccor. If you saw Americans now you would think you where in "Sweden". We love it,wish I played as a kid. "Classic American Soccor Mom" Donna.
~Gabriella #202
Donna, This is great news! Then you'll love the book :) But well, we over here are starting with the American Football after all... and wasn't the World Championships in the US after all in 1994? But otherwise soccer IS of course the most common thing here in Sweden and Gothenburgs nice little team �rgryte Idrotts S�llskap was for a long time the only team for me :) Thanks for the info btw!
~Amy #203
Glad to have you with us, Gabriella. Switching to Chinese? Tell us more. Where would you study?
~terry #204
Donna, then you're the "soccer mom" that decided the presidential election! I heard so much about you during the campaign, how does it feel to be the most sought after person in America?
~geekman #205
G'day All, Just back from Sydney and feeling somewhat frazzled by the long New Year's Eve day and the lack of sleep last night. The fireworks over Sydney Harbour were spectacular, but only an estimated 500,000 people were actually in the CBD and around the harbour. But I can understand that because Sydney's geography lends itself to gain very good vantage spots from many of the suburbs too, viz. very hilly terrain. Anyway Happy New Year to All, and now I'm off to bed in the arly hours of the 2nd January! Cheerio.
~Gabriella #206
Thanx for the welcome, Just watching the old 80's movie Ivanhoe on the telly.. an old tradition here in Sweden :) And Anthony Andrews isn't so bad, either, but really nothing to Colin of course :) Just had to thank you all for all the interesting new insights the different discussions have given me. Have to watch P&P2 again today. And btw, saw a bumch of countryfolks on the list! Hej allihop!! Kul att fler �n jag �r tokiga i P&P2 Jag missade f�rresten sista delen av Moll Flanders, n�n som vet om den finns att hyra? Amy, about the Chinese, I'll probably study it at first in Lund, IF I manage to get accapted at the course, LOTS of applicants so it's hard... Anyway, I really hope that in the future I may go to Britain and study, and of couse China and Mongolia :) but that's another story :) LOve Britain and want to move there. Happy New Year all!!!!
~terry #207
Happy New Year Ian and Gabriella!
~LauraM #208
Ian and Gabriella, Carl and everyone else WELCOME!!!! Oh new people new people. We also have crushes on Colin Firth if you can all deal with that. Most of the women just swoon over them. happy new year everyone
~Tay #209
Hey, guys, it's me again, if you remember me! ;) I hope to be around more now that Donna has encouraged me. Gosh, there's so so much to catch up on! Well, I must leave now, so I can indulge myself in the other messages!
~elder #210
Hey Tay -- welcome back! New people, "old" people, what a wonderful group this is.
~MikeC #211
Hey! My name is Mike and my sister is LisaC. If you read her post you will find out that she is quite the P&P2 fan. It was she who introduced me to the trials of Lizzie. I enjoyed the series but not to her same extent. We share different opinions on such things as Lizzie's change of heart towards Darcy. I believe that Lizzie is a money hungry feminist who only eased up to Darcy when she saw how rich he was.
~Ann #212
Have you read the book, Mike??
~Tay #213
I believe Walter Scott shared Mike's perspective. I can only say it is exactly what a male would think! I second Ann's request: Mike, read the book!
~Amy #214
Mike, do I detect just the teensiest shade of a teasing troll?
~MikeC #215
I have not read the book, my deeries, but from what I understand the book is practically the same as the series. Moreover, I did read a few passages from the to validate my post. If you believe that I need to read the book before making an opinion on a fact that occurs in the series and the book, then please tell me why!
~Anna #216
my deeries shades of a certain deplorable M !
~Donna #217
You know Mike there are more "subtle" ways to get your point across without ruffleing so many feathers.You should be reading more poetry then prose and consider driving a "big" "truck" for a living. "Why should you read the book",because you have know idea what was "expected" of respectable men and women in the 18th century.You spelled "dearie" wrong "deerest".Donna
~JohanneD #218
Ouch!
~MikeC #219
Dearest Donna, I apologize for misspelling "dearie", it was simply a typo, as I'm sure your "Know idea" was also a typo, do you KNOW what I mean! As for your big truck comment, I would have you KNOW that I am a computer engineering student who doesn't back down from a good argument. I hardly ever lose, after all my big truck and I make one hell of a one-two punch! Look both ways before crossing the street Donna, because if you are not careful it won't be a MACK truck that hits you but a MIKE truck instead Look forward to arguing with you in the future.
~Becks #220
Lin: I am from Toronto. Where are you from?
~Donna #221
I was talking about being polite. I can see that it is not in your "violent" nature.
~Carolineevans #222
I am not ashamed to admit to losing arguments, all the time. I think I learn more that way........
~MikeC #223
Dearest Donna, let us be friends. Come now, surely you do not believe that I would harm you in any way. However, when you watched the series the thought of Lizzie being materialistic must have crossed your mind when she said: 'and of this place,I might have been mistress!'
~Donna #224
Mike I would like to be friends, read the book and go to H.C.Churchyard's Jane Austen Info page http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/janeifo.html I have worked very hard to understand Jane Austen and it has been very rewarding as I am not avid reader. At first, I thought, related to todays standards a materialilstic remark.If you read these pages/book you wil see it is not.It is much more complicated then that. That is just the reason why I could not wait to read her books. If you noticed, he was thrilled that she came to Pemberely and wanted her to love it as much as he does.
~Donna #225
Mike I would like to be friends, read the book and go to H.C.Churchyard's Jane Austen Info page http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/janeifo.html I have worked very hard to understand Jane Austen and it has been very rewarding as I am not avid reader. At first, I thought, related to todays standards a materialilstic remark.If you read these pages/book you wil see it is not.It is much more complicated then that. That is just the reason why I could not wait to read her books. If you noticed, he was thrilled that she came to Pemberely and wanted her to love it as much as he does.
~JohanneD #226
"Look both ways before crossing the street Donna, because if you are not careful it won't be a MACK truck that hits you but a MIKE truck instead" Offended by these rude manners, this "gentleman" seems to think nothing of politeness nothing at all, the simple courtesy of inquiring into a site/topic before making judgement and therefore prejudice others. Pray Sirs Henry, Terry and Ian show the way to being an agreable man, so genteel and so easy and those people who fancy themselves very important and bold and opened their mouth to easily, quite mistake the matter! Utterly vexed
~mich #227
Mike, It is true that in Austen's time marriage was handle a bit like a biz proposal. Everyone including the Men were sensitive to making a good match in a practical sense. Love was a plus but not the reason many people married. Also women in Lizzies situation had very little options outside of marriage. The only two I can think of were being a governess and prostitution. Unlike our society in most cases pure survival depended on the match you made. Even though I've said the above I think if you read the book you would find Lizzie's is not as you have described her. For one thing she knows of Darcy's wealth the first time she meets him. She is reminded of it in nearly every scene yet it does not sway her dislike of him. She turns down his first proposal and gives him a good lashing while she does it. She is impressed with Pemberley but in it's simplistic elegance and what it says of Darcy's taste. It is only a short time before going to Pemberley that she learns how wrong she has been in her prejudice against Darcy. I would call Lizzie's many things but not a feminist. She will not marry without love but she fully accepts a lady's place in society. I hope you read the book I think you'll enjoy it. Lastly I think you'll find that although we disagree at times, we rarely have arguments. Mich
~churchh #228
MikeC -- I have some discussion of this on the web-page at http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/pptopics.html. Neither Jane Austen nor Elizabeth Bennet were really self-conscious ideological feminists (Jane Austen's family was not in a social position where they would be likely to be very sympathetic to the radical politics of the day), but on the other hand, Jane Austen did insist on a right to individual integrity and conscience which included women (follow the "Feminism in Jane Austen link", or look at Lizzy's remarks during the latter part of Mr. Collins propposal in Chapter 19 of Pride and Prejudice).
~DaRcYfAn #229
Hi Y'all, I am from Georgia, USA..a small town called Peachtree City, just 45 min south of Atlanta. I have two children - one son 25 years old and a daughter 15 years old. My son is an art student at Art Institute of Atlanta and my daughter is a freshman whose passion is English riding (Hunter Jumping) and yes, we have one horse. I found P&P while channel surfing one evening and could not wait until the following week for the next episode. I purchased the video and have about worn it out. I am thrilled to kno others out there have excellent good taste and look forward to getting to know many of you. I only found you a few days ago so have alot to learn. (Linda)
~elder #230
Hello, Linda. I think you will find that this is an amazingly diverse, very knowledgeable group of P&P fans. I know I have learned a lot about books, movies, internet sites, HTML, and many other topics from them. And best of all, we get to indulge in far-ranging discussions about out favorite tv/movie adaptation. Welcome.
~Donna #231
Re: 189 "Lizzy" posted at Amy's BB that she received the "Making of P&P" video when she bought it directly from A&E. I hope she will tell how long ago she ordered it. Lizzy where are you?
~Belinda #232
I'm just dropping in to say hello after a long absence ... happy new year everyone! Also, I wanted to say hello to Gabriella - the geology student (I'm a geologist - don't find too many women in the field over here!). You want to study Chinese next - Cantonese or Mandarin? That should be interesting (and very difficult)!
~Kali #233
Yee-haw! Tay and Bells and Mich are back!
~ragsan #234
Hi! I am Ragnhild, female, 22 years old and hopelessly in love with Darcy (idiotic to find mr.right in a fictional character, and one who is about 200 years older than me at that...). I have lost count of how many times I've seen the bbc/a&a production, but I'm starting to know the whole thing by heart. More about me at http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~ragsan
~ayelet #235
MikeC, let me explain why the book makes so much diffrence, becouse there Lizzy's feelings are TOLD! you don't have to guess them out of JE's way of acting, you KNOW them, do you understand what I mean? Your theory just dosen't WORK in the book, so read it!
~Amy #236
Ragnhild, so glad you made it in. Any trouble? You are with kindred spirits in your crush on Darcy.
~Carolineevans #237
Hi Ragnhild. Have we met on Austen-L? Nice to see you here!
~Jan #238
Hello from Alabama. I am Jan, I'm six and forty and am a law librarian by profession. The first time that A&E broadcast P&P2 I tuned in in the middle of Darcy's first proposal. Well, I though this was quite a show! At the beginning of the summer, a friend told me that A&E was going to rebroadcast the series, but I didn't watch the listings and as I was flipping channels in August, I encountered the middle of Darcy's first proposal AGAIN!! Well, I was very vexed indeed. I immediately began searching the IMDB for any information on the series. I found the old BB and read a message that A&E would rebroadcast P&P2 as a part of its classroom series starting in November. I'm quite shy about posting, but I can let no more time go by without expressing my gratitude. Of course I have my own set of tapes now and I read the book for the first time over Thanksgiving. I've followed you and your move to the Spring off and on since the November-December broadcast and you are quite a group-- a model, I think, of the positive things that can come from this amazing technology. Please allow me to say this, please allow me to thank you, for I DO know to whom I am indebted. Jan
~Amy #239
Thanks for coming out Jan. We always like to know who else is out there. Don't be shy -- or be shy. Just as you choose. You are very welcome either way.
~Paula #240
I've met most of you in the Drawing Room, and thanks to your help I've finally made it to the Spring. I've got a lot of reading to do. By means of introduction, I'm Paula and three and twenty and I live in Greencastle, PA. A town of very little consequence. I'm a high school English teacher, but have not had the opportunity to teach P&P yet. I'm waiting for the head of our department to order the books. I've also recently married a great guy in March, and have been chatting with everyone in the dra ing room for about two weeks. I love P&P (the book and the movie), and hope to meet all of you in the chat room. I'll try to read all of the postings very soon!!! I'm going to follow Cheryl's advice....
~Lin #241
]Lin: I am from Toronto. Where are you from? On the other side of the country: Vancouver
~Kali #242
Hi Paula...glad you made it in! ;)
~Cheryl #243
Hey, hey, hey Paula! (ooh-showing my age here!) Glad to see you're signed up! Re following my advice...does that mean you're headed over to the drooling topic??? Have fun... :-)
~sld #244
Hi, I'm Sharon and P&P has been one of my 2 favorite books (The Witch of Blackbird Pond is the other) from my early teens. I have owned about 5 paperbacks in the last 20 years because they fall apart on me. I am trying to preserve the first copy I ever read, which my mom had from her Jr. High days. The tradition has now passed on, because since my 7 year old niece watched the A&E production, she likes to be read the book at bedtime. I too, am very pleased with P&P2, even with the parts added to the film. I had seen the first Masterpiece Theatre version years ago and thought it was so lame that I had trouble sitting through it. I remembered my anoyance so well, that I originally was not going to watch the second BBC production, so I didn't see it until the second time around. Now, I also dished out $100 for the video set.
~Amy #245
Welcome home, Sharon.
~alix #246
Hi! I'm glad I finally found my way back. I'm a student at McEachern High School, and I am an advid Janeite, clarinet player, and amature composer. I am stoll addicted to P&P2 and am awaiting the showing of Emma on A&E. I'll talk to you later! :) Alicky (Laura)
~elder #247
Alicky -- let me be one of the first to welcome you. You couldn't meet a nicer group of fellow Austen/P&P2 fans!
~Amy #248
Welcome Alicky. You are back, you say? Were you a visitor on the old board?
~Susan #249
I first read "P & P" about 8 years ago and fell immediately and irrevocably in love. I was amazed to find out that I was not the only one totally besotted with Colin Firth's protrayal of Darcy. I swear the man could act with eyes alone! It's nice to know I have company.
~Amy #250
Welcome Susan. It is nice to find you are not alone, is it not?
~cassandraw #251
Hello, I'm Cassandra W. from small town Ohio (brought to you by bright.net), born in Texas, came here by way of Arizona. I have both B.A. and M.A. from Stephen F. Austin State University in Nacogdoches, Texas. I've loved Austen since I first read her one summer in early high school. I think I made book reports on Pride and Prejudice in several different classes. The books are SO much better than the movies, but that's probably another conference or something (gosh this is complicated!). What else did you want to know? I'm a children's librarian, have a neat husband, and two mouthy teenage daughters, the younger of whom is hopelessly addicted to the you-know-what of 1995 (There must be some gene involved.). Nice to be here.
~Amy #252
Though I have seen you in chat, welcome officially, Cassandra, O namesake of our dear Jane's sister. Did you know we have other kid librarians here? Kim works in a school in Tennessee. Ann2 in Sweden -- Ann, I guess I assumed you are with a public library, is that not so? Or do you work in a school too?
~DaRcYfAn #253
Welcome Susan and Cassandra...I am fairly new here too...I've found all sorts of kindred spirits here....and yes, Susan, it's those "fine eyes" he has himself. You will find all sorts of interesting conversation and information to satisfy your "addiction"....have fun and welcome!
~jane #254
Cassie, don't worry, you will find many great admirers of the book haunting this BB. In fact, rumor has it that a frequent and much loved participant, the Mysterious H.C., hasn't even seen the miniseries, but we have reason to suspect that he has read the book. .
~Pandora620 #255
Hi, ya'll. I tried to introduce myself on Dec. 22 but didn't get through. I live in West Texas Have B.A. from Texas Tech U. Have son in early 40's who is an English professor in a Texas University. A daughter who teaches Kindergarten in Plano, Texas - suburb of Dallas. I am retired from medical field (Jack of All Trades). Since my children are as old as most of you I'm sure you would not expect me to own my age. This meeting place is one of the joys I have discovered since retiring. I am a widow and live with two wonderful dogs and a cat who allows us to live here. I enjoy all of you so much.
~churchh #256
Jane, for a long time I didn't see it (no cable or VCR), but now I have watched it twice...
~Donna #257
Wow, almost 12 hours of P&P2.
~Amy #258
Hi again, Claudia. You can be my virtual mom. I need one; get tired of being the mom.
~Lynbl #259
I've been lurking around the edge of this site for a few months and have finally decided to jump in! I live in Brisbane, Australia am a mother of 3 adult children and 3 brilliant grandchildren. I first read P&P when I was about 16 (by the light of gaslight, owing to my great age, you see!). I saw P&P0 and wondered what the heck I was watching, but finally found heaven when P&P2 arrived. I couldn't believe they were actually saying words from the book!! Not only that, but everyone looked exactly as I pictured them. BLISS.. My children gave me the double tape for Mother's day and I have watched it so many times it is showing alarming lines right in the middle of much loved scenes (you know the ones). I also bought the "Making of" from the ABC shop here and know that by heart.I have watched my tapes so many times that my favourite thing at the moment is to focus on a different character each viewing and watch their actions. Also to slow-motion through crown scenes (the village dance, the ball, the double wedding AND THE KISS). I play it while I vacuum and know just exactly what scene is playing by what is being said.....The true addict - I don't even have to WATCH anymore ... Do I qualify?
~Anna #260
Hi Lyn, you most certainly do qualify, Welcome! It's nice to have another Australian come out of the woodwork.
~Amy #261
Welcome, Lyn. You can get the Making of video in Oz? Can grandmothers still drool? Please say yes.
~sld #262
HeellOOO, Lyn! Hey guys, she actually has the TAPE!!!!!
~Mari #263
Yes, yes; please tell us Lyn;can we order by mail from this store; name adress, specifics, please!
~Cheryl #264
Lyn may have the Making of P&P2 tape, but being in Oz it is in the PAL format and therefore cannot be used on American VCR's. Curses, foiled again! :-(
~Anna #265
Lyn, did you mean the "Making Of P&P" tape or the book? The ABC shop in Newcastle only had the book; if the tape is available in Aus I'll bully them into ordering it for me...
~DaRcYfAn #266
Lyn..could it be that we have lines in our tapes at the same places....I know exactly what you mean....I was so relieved to find others who felt the same way...I think it very interesting that having read P&P so many years earlier that the characters were exactly what you had imagined for so long...that rarely happens...usually a production changes it for you...I hate when that happens...to find your imagination come alive on the screen must be terrific!
~Tracey #267
Hello- I'm finally delurking here after a couple of weeks. I must say I was pleasantly surprised to find this board, and more pleasantly surprised at how nice everyone here seems! My interest in P&P began when I saw the miniseries, and culminated during hurricane Fran last Sept., when I was without electricity for 8 days and spent my time reading and re-reading P&P by candlelight. Now, one slightly stronger glasses prescription later, I have treated myself to the videos of P&P and S&S, and am through most of he novels. I do have a Lit. background (MA in Medieval Lit), but never spent much time on 19th century British. It's great! As for personal info, I live in Raleigh, NC with my brand new husband and ill-tempered dog, and have abandoned academia for software marketing--go figure. Well, I imagine I'll be drooling/posting here often...........so 'bye for now.
~Lynbl #268
Guys, calm down.....Sorry, it's the way I put things. I had so much to say and just kept going without making sense. It was the Making of BOOK, not tape I have. I have sent an e-mail to the BBC asking if they produced a tape for sale to the general public, and if not, why not as there sure is a market for it. Fingers crossed. Sorry about the confusion. And yes Amy, grandmothers still drool - haven't you heard, they are probably the BIGGEST droolers.....
~sld #269
OOHHH! LYN! You could have started a riot here! LOL! I, too have emails in to 1) BBC; 2) A&E; and 3)ABC (Australia). A few others have had emails out for a while, and no response.
~Pandora620 #270
Amy, what a happy thought - to be your virtual mom - I can't think of an honor I'd rather have. My daughter is as much an Austen fan as I so I'll tell her she has a virtual sister. The Eng. Prof son keeps us informed on all sorts of good tidbits from Regency and Victorian lit. and lifestyles. Could you use a brother too?
~Anna #271
]The Eng. Prof son keeps us informed on all sorts of good tidbits from Regency and Victorian lit. and lifestyles. Could you use a brother too? A wonderful addition to the family! Can we all adopt him?
~Amy #272
Yes, please. He shall be our brother.
~Ann #273
Has anyone tried hitting up the BBC and A&E about the Making of video using snail mail?
~terry #274
How about getting A&E to sponsor this conference and the conference website?
~jwinsor #275
}Has anyone tried hitting up the BBC and A&E about the Making of video using snail mail? And by voice phone and by any other method that could be thought of. They remain inscrutable and implacable.
~geekman #276
G'day Lyn and G'day Claudia. It's lovely to have some Grandmas here! Now we are a real family, but where's Pop? By the way, Lyn have you heard about our little Aussie Austenite get together? Now you've come out of the woodwork Hilary, Anna and I may plead for you to come too. The weekend of 22/23 February we are meeting in Canberra for a Picnic and then a meal in the evening. Final plans have not yet been agreed upon, but hopefully you will be able to meet most of us, including Lilian!
~bernie #277
Ann, I've telephoned, EP:e
~Pandora620 #278
Anna, the English Prof is fun. He would love you. The latest tidbit was on Poor Laws of the two periods and a receipe for Pork Pie. Yuk - the fat gram police would come after us if we ate that.
~Amy #279
I love meat pies, though.
~OrrRN #280
Hello everyone....I'm so surprised that I haven't found this place sooner. I, as many of you, am hopelessly in love with the BBC's version of P&P. I did not see the first airing of the miniseries last January in the U.S. and luckily saw it in August when A&E showed it again. I have been in love with it ever since. Yet, I'm not so sure what I am in love with...Is is Colin Firth's portrayal of the proud Mr. Darcy? Is it Jennifer Ehle's performance of Eliz abeth Bennet? Is it the music? I don't know, but I just love it. Thank you for creating a site for us fanatics. Unfortunately, AOL will not permit me and others to go into the Pemberly chat room, but this is great enough. Thanks again.
~terry #281
You not the only AOL discontent these days, I hear. Welcome, glad you found this place.
~Amy #282
Welcome, Cris. Are you a nurse?
~jwinsor #283
Chris: I'm not so sure what I am in love with...Is it Hi Chris - it is all of those - and more. If any one element of the production were removed or altered, it would not be the same. It is such a triumph of ensemble performance (technical as well as dramatic) as is seldom achieved.
~bernie #284
Ann, I have wriiten, faxed E-mailed and telephoned the BBC numerous times with regards to "The Making of P&P2" video. Thus far I have had no joy. No responses to mail enquiries and no positive noises from telephone conversations. I've even asked about the special teacher's package, which costs over a 100 pounds, to no avail. At least I'm lucky in the sense that I have seen the video. :help q
~Bernie #285
Finally got myself back in here after several attempts :( Ann, I have written, faxed, E�mailed and telephoned the BBC on numerous occasions with respects to "The Making of P&P2" video. Thus far, I have had absolutely no joy � no response to mail enquiries and telephone queries have resulted in nothing positive either. I have even asked about the special teacher's package, which costs upwards of �100, to no avail :-( At least, I'm lucky in the sense that I have seen the video.
~DaRcYfAn #286
Cris..welcome...Prodigy won't let us get into the chat room either! It is so maddening...I am still trying to bully them however. I signed on with Compuserve for my free 5 hours just to see what I was missing...but hang in there....they are still updating all these systems and trying to keep up with not only the demand, but to keep their "already faithful" happy.... If you loved the series..you will love all the various topics and discussions here at the conference!
~JohanneD #287
In here, love in P&P might very well transform in love of P&P2BB, and the feeling will extend to gargantuesque proportion. Happy thoughts and lucky you in experiencing this ;)
~sld #288
Just an idea for Linda & Cris - Try downloading Microsoft Explorer from the MS website and use it to get into the Pemberley Drwrm. Start up the Explorer after you have logged on to AOL or Prodigy. I have done this when I was on AOL because the Explorer seemed to download files faster. And in addition, when AOL cut me off, all my screens would still be up for me to look at on the Explorer.
~JohanneD #289
Can do the same with Netscape as well (and I found it much faster)
~DaRcYfAn #290
Sharon....bless you girl! I will try it..Microsoft Explorer is what I use with Compuserve. I use Netscape with the new Prodigy Internet...it doesn't work for me.... Johanne...Netscape works for you? I wonder why it doesn't on Prodigy Internet????????
~JohanneD #291
Actually it works wonder : am with an independant provider.
~ednaw #292
I am glad to descover this location, being the only P&P2 addict some what lonely. I have enjoiyed reading all the comments. ednaw
~Amy #293
Hi Ednaw, and welcome. I saw you try to come into chat yesterday. Try again sometime. What was the trouble?
~Melanie #294
~sprin5 #295
Welcome ednaw.
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