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Computer help (was Think You're Computer Illiterate?)

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~Amy Tue, Mar 4, 1997 (22:28) seed

Topic 112 of 214 [austen]: Think you're computer-illiterate? Response 120 of 125: Ann Rydberg (Ann2) * Sun, Mar 2, 1997 (08:18) * 2 lines Why thanks Hc I am grateful to know but would also like to know just how you can tell. Thanks to some Unix and zfinx and oinx and I know not whatsx, that are all in your command ?? When I click view source it is all gone from what I gather. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 112 of 214 [austen]: Think you're computer-illiterate? Response 121 of 125: The Mysterious H.C. (churchh) * Sun, Mar 2, 1997 (10:15) * 2 lines Well, a lot of the time I'm using "Lynx", which doesn't pay any attention to the no-cache HTTP headers. But you can view source even in an inferior browser like Netscape ;-) if you use the "redisplay" button at the bottom, and then run "View Source" on THAT page... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 112 of 214 [austen]: Think you're computer-illiterate? Response 122 of 125: Hilary Talbot (Hilary) * Sun, Mar 2, 1997 (18:31) * 3 lines Maybe someone here can help us. Last week we had to re-install Win 3. Since then we have had a problem with colours in Netscape (2.01 whatever). Photos appear blotchy grey/black/white, with odd garish patches of red, yellow or blue. However other graphics, like Henry's Coat of Arms, for example, are fine. The chat room, usually pink, is white. Any suggestions that might help? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 112 of 214 [austen]: Think you're computer-illiterate? Response 123 of 125: SusanC (Susan) * Sun, Mar 2, 1997 (19:09) * 1 lines Have you tried minimizing, then restoring, a few times? I had this same problem with Netscape when I first downloaded it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 112 of 214 [austen]: Think you're computer-illiterate? Response 124 of 125: The Mysterious H.C (churchh) * Sun, Mar 2, 1997 (20:42) * 4 lines Hey that coat of arms is for Amy -- my initials aren't "AB". It may have something to do with the handling of image colors; in some sub-menu somewhere, you can check off options for "Always dither", "Always Substitute Colors", or "Automatically choose between Dither and Substitute". It sounds like you may have "Always Substitute" selected, which is porbably not what you want... Also, make sure your video driver is at least 256 colors... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 112 of 214 [austen]: Think you're computer-illiterate? Response 125 of 125: Hilary Talbot (Hilary) * Mon, Mar 3, 1997 (14:44) * 6 lines Susan, thanks but that doesn't fix it. Thanks Henry. We have it on 'auto choose' already, so I think it is a problem to do with the 256 colours. We tried choosing one of the 256 palette options (VGA, I think), but that choice then crashed us again. We will keep trying, however. But the coat of arms was of your making......

~Anna Wed, Mar 5, 1997 (05:05) #1

In a couple of weeks when I finish a current project I hope to move my computer skills up a notch. Can any of you who have recently to paddle in the mysteries recommend a good book or 2 on beginning html? I aim to be able to manage my own home page, images etc and be a good and useful citizen of spring, but don't aspire to the rank of wizard...

~Amy Wed, Mar 5, 1997 (08:46) #2

Laura Lemay's books are always good.

~lasalle Wed, Mar 5, 1997 (11:33) #3

I've had some success with Dummies 101: HTML by Ray and Ray, it's one of those IDG Dummies series.

~churchh Thu, Mar 6, 1997 (08:35) #4

I remember "Laura Lemay" from back in the early '90's when she used to hang out on the Usenet newsgroup alt.angst and flame and be flamed along with the rest of the geeks there...

~Kaffeine Thu, Mar 6, 1997 (17:14) #5

I remember Laura Lemay from her book "Teach Yourself Java in 21 Days". The very first example program in the book wouldn't work for me. I spent ages trying to get that thing to work, only to finally discover through Usenet that the book was wrong, and if I followed her instructions it would never work! Needless to say, I put down the book and have never bought another one of hers!

~Hilary Thu, Mar 6, 1997 (19:38) #6

Our colours are restored!

~elder Thu, Mar 6, 1997 (20:20) #7

Our colours are restored! Hilary, Hooray! How did you did it? (Was there a magic incantation or some such thing?)

~Mari Fri, Mar 7, 1997 (13:22) #8

Why, yes, Kathleen, there is. Close your eyes, and repreat thrice; "I shall overcome this, I shall overcome this, I shall overcome this..."

~Ann2 Fri, Mar 7, 1997 (16:44) #9

That's very good Hilary you'll need them to watch Joan's lovely flower photos, no buttercups yet though ;-)

~elder Fri, Mar 7, 1997 (19:20) #10

Hilary, Mari -- whatever incantation was used must have been very powerful. The spilled dill (?) background here at Austen Conference has just become the background for Win 95 when I turn on my computer! I don't mind it, but I sure don't know how it happened.

~Susan Fri, Mar 7, 1997 (21:09) #11

Let's say one found a picture on the web, but it was a wee little picture, and one wanted to make it bigger and then post it at the Drool Conference. Can one do such a thing, and if so, how would one go about it? All replies most fervently appreciated. :)

~Amy Fri, Mar 7, 1997 (22:08) #12

Susan, no telling how it will hold up bigger, but here's what you do. Find out what size it is now, in pixels. You'll need some graphics viewer or paint program that tells you this. Say it is 50 x 60. You specify new dimensions in the same proportion within your img scr tag. Like this: [img src="http://www.place.com/dir/pic.gif" width="200 height="240"] That tag would make your picture 4 times larger. Sub pointy brackets for square.

~Amy Fri, Mar 7, 1997 (22:12) #13

Susan, one more thing. Do you know how to view source? Sometimes the size it specified there. Pictures load faster when a size is specified, even if the actual size is noted.

~churchh Sat, Mar 8, 1997 (16:58) #14

Myretta, I heard it through the grapeVIne that you're adVIsing a noVIce, a Unix VIrgin as it were, in the use of a VIle tool of the deVIl, that deVIant and ataVIstic text editor. From my point of VIew, your obliVIous VIctim's fate is unenVIable, since I VIgorously VIe to VIlify and reVIle (with VIsceral VIgilance and VItriol) that VIllainous deVIce of primitiVIsm, that VIcious effluVIum of eVIl, that unVIable but VIrulent VIrus of unserVIceable unproductiVIty, which is eVIdently little less than VIolently BolsheVIk. It is my VIrtuous wish that some VIsionary indiVIdual will be VIctorious in eVIcting this inVIdious VIce into the ineVItable obliVIon which it so obVIously and richly inVItes! VIctory!

~mrobens Sat, Mar 8, 1997 (18:03) #15

Henry, I did it just to annoy you. And the VIvid VItriol of your inVIdious attack tells me that I hit the mark, but the editor remains inVIolable. You have not VItiated my campaign with your VItuperation. VIva VI The VIsual Editor VIrago

~Susan Sat, Mar 8, 1997 (20:59) #16

VIciously funny!!

~Cheryl Sat, Mar 8, 1997 (21:35) #17

Sic 'em sister! ;-)

~Amy Sat, Mar 8, 1997 (21:40) #18

Poor Henry... One of these days we are going to go over the line -- again. Oh dear, but I couldn't help but giggle when you said you did it just to bug him, Myretta.

~Susan Sun, Mar 9, 1997 (02:05) #19

I fixed my problem with not having Colin Firth, Jeremy Northam, and FanFiction threads on Drool (or I should say, my husband did). Normally, I'd be too embarrassed to mention the cure, but I thought I might be able to save someone else the same trouble. In the Main Menu, there's an option called View/Modify Preferences, where you can choose a lot of different things about how you want your threads displayed. I don't remember doing this when I first signed on, so I'm assuming I picked default. Anyway, changed Skip Forgotten to Don't Skip Forgotten, and voila! Everything's right with the world again!

~Ann2 Sun, Mar 9, 1997 (12:44) #20

Good for you Susan, I don't see how anyone could endure long without access to Firth and Northam drool, and the fiction usually helps...slurp, sorry. That VI thing was great;just wish I had a clue... but I seem to be doomed to blindness.

~elder Sun, Mar 9, 1997 (13:01) #21

Ann2: but I seem to be doomed to blindness Oh, Ann, where is Mr Knightley when you need him! ;-)

~churchh Sun, Mar 9, 1997 (18:06) #22

Ann2 -- It's the great perpetual "Unix text editor religious war" of Emacs vs. VI; the conflict has raged since about the early 1980's (? not certain), and it hasn't been settled yet... However it is true that VI is still in some ways a kind of hopped-up line editor (this is a kind of software dating back to 1960's mainframes and paper TTY terminals) -- and not a true from-the-ground-up screen editor; also, VI has some features that are rather new-user-unfriendly, such as the invisible distinction between "insert mode" and "command mode".

~mrobens Sun, Mar 9, 1997 (18:21) #23

However it is true that VI is still in some ways a kind of hopped-up line editor (this is a kind of software dating back to 1960's mainframes and paper TTY terminals) -- and not a true from-the-ground-up screen editor; also, VI has some features that are rather new-user-unfriendly, such as the invisible distinction between "insert mode" and "command mode". I don't deny it. It just that I've been using it since the early 80s and, since I have no problem with it, have never bothered to learn another.

~Carolineevans Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (11:09) #24

Okay, Super-geeks, can you fix my problem? I am so behind on the Firth Drool (about 200 posts, don't ask how that happened).With all the pretty pictures there are my computer/modem suffers from indigestion, and gets locked after about 100 posts, so I never get to the end. Amy, if you would be so kind as to bring back dbut(cute name, dbutt)I could skip forward, back up and redisplay. If that's not possible, is there any other way I could do it?

~Amy Mon, Mar 10, 1997 (13:31) #25

Cara Caro, shame on you for that level of neglect. Actually the topic has now been archived. I think the dbut button was set to make a page with a day's worth of old posts, but you can specify the same kind of address yourself. Say, for example you wanted to see the last seven days with of the archived thread, you'd use this URL: http://208.199.212.10/yapp-bin/restricted/read/austenarchive/117/all/since/-7 Just change the last three items to make it work in any /conference-in any/topic-for any/-number of days Anybody else mourning the loss of dbut? I can bring it back or set the drool link to a certain number of days.

~jwinsor Tue, Mar 11, 1997 (02:51) #26

Another shortcut is to use "noresp" (no responses) - for example if you just wanted to get to the response window in this topic without seeing any postings, you could change the "new" to "noresp": http://208.199.212.10/yapp-bin/restricted/read/austen/215/noresp Then you'd be jumped directly to the enter-your-response window (bypassing all responses), and also to the Redisplay field, where you could enter a response number of your choice to redisplay from.

~Cheryl Tue, Mar 11, 1997 (13:42) #27

Well, I'm done with Oldiznu...again. I shall light a candle to help ward off the next manifestation.

~Carolineevans Tue, Mar 11, 1997 (13:43) #28

Thanks Joan and Amy. And thanks for the archives! Amy, I promise not to go to work so often that I get behind on my drooling again! I'll try the -1 thing, that did great for me. I have even got dbut in my computer, how I know not. He cannot do his magic there , of course. I'd be glad to see him back on a -1 basis. Would you have to remove THAT WELSHMANfirst? And I'll save up for a new modem, too.Promise!

~Amy Tue, Mar 11, 1997 (14:05) #29

BTW, anybody who is upgrading to a 28.8 and has a (probably preferably) external 14.4 to toss out, let me know.

~Cheryl Tue, Mar 11, 1997 (14:30) #30

Amy, just upgraded to 33.6, but my old 14.4 is internal, still want it?

~bernhard Tue, Mar 11, 1997 (19:17) #31

Cheryl, first your choir sings the Kyrie, now this... I shall light a candle to help ward off the next manifestation... Are you sure that you're not a closet Catholic? :)

~Cheryl Tue, Mar 11, 1997 (23:39) #32

Cindy: Are you sure that you're not a closet Catholic? LOL Cindy! I know you're going to scoff at this, but I am a "High Church Methodist." Yes, there is such an animal! ;-)

~kate Wed, Mar 12, 1997 (15:46) #33

Cheryl, do you do Taize by any chance?

~JohanneD Fri, Mar 14, 1997 (11:43) #34

I do windows, if it helps :)

~LynnMarie Sun, Mar 23, 1997 (15:50) #35

Please pardon my Spring ignorance, but when I went to drool the other day (my first time, no less) something happened when I was in the Ciaran Hinds drool, and I ended up somewhere else, and when I went back, Ciaran was GONE! What have I DONE????!!!!! HELP!

~Amy Sun, Mar 23, 1997 (16:59) #36

He probably blipped over into the realm of the forgotten, Lynn. If your remember button doesn't work like mine doesn't, I've put in a little undocumented link for all new forgotten messages. Look for the tiny "n/f" on the cover page of the conference.

~jwinsor Sun, Mar 23, 1997 (19:55) #37

He probably blipped over into the realm of the forgotten, Actually, he probably just blipped over into the realm of already read - because of that stupid no cache thing. As soon as another post is made there it will probably re-appear, and when it does, you can use the redisplay field to ask it to redisplay from a response number earlier than the currently displayed responses. Alternately, you can choose "All" instead of "new" at the beginning of the conference in order to find out which item number is Ciaran Hinds drool (unless you happen to have memorized it ). Then you can choose it and redisplay all of it.

~LynnMarie Mon, Mar 24, 1997 (21:12) #38

Amy and Joan, thank you! HE"S BACK! :-) ! The n/f didn't work, but clicking all did, so there he was!! Thanks so much for the help. I am sure there are much more efficient ways for me to look at all these topics, but I haven't wanted to take the time to find out what they are yet!! Thanks again!

~Carolineevans Mon, Mar 24, 1997 (21:47) #39

I've lost my Dillweed.Am I alone, or is this deliberate policy?

~JohanneD Mon, Mar 24, 1997 (22:02) #40

It's seems to have faded away...

~Inko Mon, Mar 24, 1997 (22:45) #41

Now that you pointed it out, I've lost it too! Thought it was just me. Back to the store, buy more dill!!

~Amy Mon, Mar 24, 1997 (23:52) #42

I'll sprinkle a little more on the counter.

~Ann Tue, Mar 25, 1997 (00:27) #43

I have a little dill, but is fainter than it was--almost invisible.

~Carolineevans Tue, Mar 25, 1997 (15:10) #44

Seems to have been replaced by microscope slides of unicellular animals- interesting, but is it Regency, do you think?

~LynnMarie Tue, Apr 1, 1997 (19:59) #45

I'm back with another problem. I tried to go into chat today, but when I clicked on Enter Chat Room, is said "Hey, you didn't enter a username" but it never gave me the oppotunity to enter one. Have I done something wrong? Am I the only one here since the days the spring was down?! Hello out there!!?? Help!!

~terry Tue, Apr 1, 1997 (21:03) #46

There are only a few left. I miss all the activity.

~fen Wed, Apr 2, 1997 (17:02) #47

Lynn, try this- http://www.bluemarble.net/~amyloo/wwwboard/ppbb.html

~alfresco Wed, Apr 2, 1997 (22:35) #48

Spring was down, and...? Reminds me of a sci fi story where the world was bombed and only two humans were left alive in NYC.

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