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Two-faced Lizzie

Topic 75 · 72 responses · archived october 2000
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~MikeC seed
While viewing P&P2 I felt that Lizzie was strong minded, articulate and well mannered, but I had a sneaky feeling that she had a hidden agenda. In the first 5 episodes, one gets the impression that Lizzie could live just as happily not being married. In episode 6 she confesses to Jane that the first time she "fell in love" with Darcy was upon viewing his beautiful grounds of Pemberley. This implies to me that she was fooling us with her manner of not carring whether or not she was rich or married. In my o inion, Lizzie is a two-faced golddigger. Darcy watch out! 72 new of
~Cheryl #1
Mike, this is such a blatant "trollers" comment that I shall not deign to respond to the spurrious allegations contained in you message!
~Amy #2
Mike, dear, yes. Just take it easy, okay? If you want to tease about this, please go ahead and tread lightly with it. We will be watching and determining what constitutes crossing the line. You are very welcome so long as you try to blend into our little society's mores. Do you understand, pal? Amy
~MikeC #3
As principal Seymore Skinner of the Simpsons says: "Prove me wrong children! Prove me wrong!"
~catie #4
In the book it is obvious that Lizzie was speaking in jest: "It's been coming on so gradually that I hardly know when it began. But I believe I must date it from my first seeing his beautiful grounds at Pemberly". Another entreaty that she would be serious, however, produced the desired effect; and she soon satisfied Jane by her solemn assurances of attachment. I think that proves you wrong, Mike.
~kendall #5
A money-hungry gold-digger would have accepted him in the first place, Mike.
~Anna #6
] Prove me wrong! Why bother? You may think as you chuse, for myself I think Lizzy spoke in jest.
~Kaffeine #7
Actually, despite the fact the I think Mike only posted this for the controversy, I don't entirely disagree with him. I read the book before I saw the mini-series. In the book it was very clear that what she said was in jest. I was surprised when I saw the mini-series that it wasn't clearly conveyed that she was kidding. If I had seen it without reading the book first, I might have been negatively influenced by that scene.
~Anna #8
possibly a reason for reading the book?
~Karen #9
Mike, I have to agree with Katy. If Lizzy were a gold digger, why not just accept Darcy's first proposal. I also agree with Kaff and think you are trying to provoke us. Gold diggers behave much more like Miss Bingley - flattery and throwing themselves at their victims
~Becks #10
Have you actually read the book, or any Jane Austen, Mike. Maybe then you would have justification to post here.
~MikeC #11
In response to the K sisters (Katy & Karen), Lizzie refused the initial proposal only because she had never seen Pemberley before, she had only heard how rich big D was but had no physical proof of how deep his pockets really were! Therefore, your statement that if she were a gold-digger she would have accepted his first proposal is false because she had never seen his mansion before. As to whether or not I'm trying to create trouble in your Austenite community, the answer is no. I am merely pointing out what I believe to be true. All of you have been reading each others comments for some time now, but the problem is that they are all one sided. For instance, you might dispute about some events that occur in the story but the opinions are in a positive light. Now, here comes Mike with a soured point of view and you guys can't take it! After all there are two sides to every story! Beli ve it or not I did enjoy most of the series, but the truth about Lizzie had to come out!
~geekman #12
G'day, well as an Aussie bloke I'd have to agree with my fellow Novocastrian, Anna, that Lizzy was being sarcastic. Lizzy loved Darcy for far more than his grounds and house.
~Carolineevans #13
Mike, Shame on you!We have never pretended that we are anything but addicts here,so our one-sidedness has never been a problem.Methinks your comments smack rather of jealousy-of Darcy, and of his final happiness.
~LauraM #14
How could anyone defame our wonderful Lizzy. Mike, if you must know, Lizzy would have taken Mr Darcy even without seeing Pemberley. But he had to prove himself capable of her. His pride and arrogance were what kept her from wanting him earlier in the novel. Seeing the grounds of Pemberley and hearing from the servant as to how wonderful Mr Darcy was helped changed her mind. But the eclipse of it all, was his willingness to help her family out with the whole Lydia scandal. He was in love with Lizzy a d managed to keep Lydia's reputation intact. That was when Lizzy realized how good he was and how much she did love him. I do not believe that Lizzy was a golddigger. She would have refused him, had she not seen a side of him that was soft, lovable and noble. Mr Darcy did things for a reason. Lizzy knew that most likely she would never marry a rich man and was okay with that. Calling Lizzy a golddigger is wrong. She married for love and only love.
~cat #15
If she hadn't seen Pemberley she wouldn't have seen Darcy again and that wouldn't have given him the chance to prove he had changed for the better, they wouldn't have fallen in love. So as you can plainly see it was essential that she should see Pemberley.
~Carolineevans #16
"I am convinced that only the deepest love will tempt me into matrimony."
~LauraM #17
Caroline, I don't think he'll put our Lizzy down again, which is why I created another topic just for him. Sometimes there is a method to my madness
~Ann2 #18
Why can't you see the jest in the film? Even Jane understands at once and reacts "Ooh, Lizzy"! with a laugh. And the expression on Lizzy's face when she pretends to concider, how her love began and as she comes to think of this provoking answer can't resist uttering it . It is to Jane mind you! her closest in confidence and who would know what to make of such a remark.
~amy2 #19
Also, if Lizzy were purely a golddigger, why not marry Mr. Collins and keep Longbourne in the family? If she were that unconcerned about the connection between love & marriage?
~Tay #20
Besides, Lizzie always shows she doesn't think much of the rich: "The rich can afford to throw insult wherever they go" (paraphrasing)
~cat #21
Ladies...Ladies....Please. Stop defending Lizzie...I personally think Mike is here to stir up trouble in our little community. If we ignore him the little pest might go away.
~Inko #22
Cat, I'm with you. I've been ignoring him all the way - if he gets no response from us, he'll soon tire of pestering us and will only make himself ridiculous in the process!;-)
~Anna #23
I had initially assumed that Mike just wanted an argument, any argument, and I was not inclined to dignify such an approach with serious debate, but I may have been wrong (I have never claimed infallibility), and so... The suggestion that Lizzy was in it soley for the money is not a new one; as has been pointed out elswhere Sir Walter Scott is the first recorded instance. If one is to limit discussion to the evidence in P&P2 (and in topic 2 Mike seems to be saying he intends to go no further) then there is nothing more to be said on the topic than I disagree . As Kathleen has said, one may get a different impression from the series; even the best acting is more limited than a text in telling us what haracters are feeling. Although very close to the text, there are both additions and omissions in the screenplay of P&P2, and in some places, by the use of 'body-language' P&P2 gives us a particular interpretation of the text that is supportable but not necessarily indisputable if one refers to the text. It has been said elswhere that Jane Austen seems to have thought that it was wrong to marry [purely] for money, but silly to marry without it, and that her heroines follow her dictum. Any meaningful debate about this would require a basic familiarity of Jane Austen's 6 major works and of the social and financial conditions in the Regency period. I don't really care that much what Mike's opinion is; it can have no effect on me unless I let it, and I choose not to. I won't attempt to carry this debate any further by adding detail of the above. For anyone interested HC's web page (the address is in the Links via the Austen main page) has alot of detail, including a summary of some arguments against the 'Lizzy is a gold-digger' line. After all, as Caroline has said, this board is not a forum for critical debate, but a place where we can enjoy discussion about the delights of P&P2 with like minded folk.
~MikeC #24
Dear Cat and Inko, if I am just a little pest that is not worth responding to then why are you making it a point to ignore me? Do you KNOW the old saying: "the squeaky wheel gets the grease?" I will not decend to the level of name calling. I will just let her actions speak for themselves. Even though Lizzie looked after the welfare of her sisters, this didn't stop her from using her arts and allurements to draw in the best catch of them all in the end. How 'bout that?
~geekman #25
Mike, her fine eyes, arts and allurements caught Darcy's attention all the while she was rejecting him!
~panache #26
Anna, well said. Mike, you remind me of several male associates and relatives whose propensity is to "make waves" in a conversational group, then kick back and enjoy the ensuing melee, particularly among womenfolk. An occasional amount of that can be oddly amusing; too much of it, an irritant. The above tide of remarks may be just what your ego wanted, but for more polite and amiable interchange, as befits our Austen group, I suggest reading the more courteous styles of Ian, Eric, Terry, Donald, Jake, et al., not to mention Austen herself. You are, in a manner of speaking, walking through a Regency ladies' tea room here, not a sports bar of the '90s. It is your attitude as worded that grates, more than any view, IMHO.
~Donna #27
ROFLOL! This is to funny. Why do you insist."Arts and allurements"this was said by a jealous lady whose daughter has nothing to offer but a "running" nose. Here is what you do. Find a character who is reliable in the video{since you have not read the book} who is against Lizzie. Who has not an axe to grind.
~Ann #28
Mike, How old are you?
~kendall #29
I am reading Wuthering Heights as I wait patiently for the downloading of thousands of messages (the 'what-is-old-is-new-again' virus hit last night). I have not read this in several years and at this time, I am thinking that Cathy may be the sanest person (the closest to a human being) of any character in the book. of course that is not saying much. oops, - wrong thread - anyone want to talk about WH here?
~Amy #30
Know what I love about her, Katy? She is wild and that is prized by some.
~panache #31
Help, help, I'm snorting cocoa through my nose, ROTFLOL so hard. Katy, you are a scream! Sure, I'll talk about Wild Hiccups here!(WH)
~panache #32
Ah, here it is. Wild Hiccups, page 23: See Mike. See Mike catch sister of Kitty, Lovely Lizzy. See Mike call her bad names. Mike is a bad boy. page 24: Oh, good. Here come the big girls. The big girls tell Mike NO. Mike laughs. page 25: See Lovely Lizzy hiss and scratch. Poor Mike. See Mike pat sister of Kitty gently. Hear her purr. See the big girls clap for Mike.
~JohanneD #33
1. ROFLOL HARD 2. BELLYACHE 3. REREAD. POSOLOGY : follow step 1 to 3 and repeat.
~Zimei #34
Wuthering Heights, ah Yes. I first read it when I was 14 or 15 and plan to read it again. I enjoyed the BBC film on TNT the other day very much. I found it very well made, it's not easy to condense 30 years of love and hatred in less then 150 minutes. Although I do think the portrayal of Heathclif is a little one-dimentional in the second half of the film. I don't remember if that is how he is in the book - so consumed by revenge that he becomes an hateful and almost despicable man. Zimei Zimei
~Carolineevans #35
Johanne, you have just proved again, for the umpteeth time that we are kindred spirits!Loved your prescription.... Let's start a new thread, something like "Who else to play Heathcliff?" I will start the ball rolling by nominating MIKE for the role........
~JohanneD #36
Capital! Capital! BTW sweet Caroline, sorry to ask again, did you receive my e-mails? Let me know...;)
~JohanneD #37
unreadable : sweet Caroline
~MikeC #38
Go check out LISA I'M FROM BOSTON.....MIKE IS GREAT for a shocking response. This has been quite amusing!
~JohanneD #39
Amusing indeed. Our first flaming?
~Carolineevans #40
Johanne, I have been cursing Neil Diamond for years......Mail arrived safely, if late. Mike, Lisa is a lady of infinite resource and sagacity.She has a jaguar by the tail.....forgive me if I sound Kiplingesque, and leave this comment just so...
~Carolineevans #41
~lisaC #42
I would like to thank you all for putting up with my brother's "reckless and wild behaviour". Like Lizzie at the Netherfield Ball, I was ashamed of some of his responses and lack of gentlemanly behaviour. He is an obstinate headstrong boy whose manners and arrogance needed to be put in place by knowledgeable and insightful people. Maybe all of your comments will do for him what Lizzie's did for Darcy. I can only hope!
~kendall #43
Lisa, I have a feeling your brother has returned to school well-pleased with himself for the attention he got and the reaction he caused. Perhaps he will meet his own Lizzy someday.
~Carolineevans #44
We might even think him a sweet boy, in our hearts, if we really knew him...
~Kali #45
Poor Mike. How deluded and misled he is. In concurrence with posts #'s 14 and 15 in this thread, see my post re: the Pemberly visit as a catalyst for Lizzie's changed feelings, buried somewhere in the Irony and Morality THread. It was Darcy's letter which provided Lizzy with the initial jolt as to the inaccuracy of her judgements, but it took some time and experience with this idea of a "new" Darcy to make her realize that he was worth her love. The Pemberly visit gave Lizzy a chance to get to know Darcy on his own turf, comfortable, and at home. The way he keeps his household, the outspoken regard of Mrs. Reynolds, the evidence of his love for his sister, and his easy and pleasant manner when "in his element" prove to Lizzy t at he is not so disagreeable as she thinks. He is merely shy, and his nasty "pride" is merely a defense mechanism he uses to shield himself against teh discomfort he feels around strangers. His kind treatment of the Gardiners...Lizzy's worthy relations...is further proof that he is not really a snob so much as he is a critic of the weaknesses of humankind in general. Amy, do you still have my Postmodern Deconstructionist Diatribe? If so, could you pull it up here somehow? I think it did a pretty good job of conveying my feelings re: Lizzy as a golddigger...;)
~Amy #46
I will look for it, Kal. You are certainly a postin' machine tonight.
~Donna #47
Why are you not "Chatty" Kali tonight?
~Kali #48
THanks, Amy...DOnna...I may be there yet, love! BTW, my first Pemberley Meeting post was NOT in the Irony and Morality THreatd, but in the Visiting the Lakes THread...duh!
~ayelet #49
If we can hope he'll start to think if he was right, as Darcy did, he must first belive that Darcy is good, which I'm not convinced he thinks, maybe, Mike, you think of Darcy as a two faced snob? then you can enjoy watching Pride And Prejudice a villians story (you cannot call it a love story now, can you?) of Elizabeth Bennet, A two faced golddigger and The rich Fitzwilliam Darcy, A two faced snob, and after all that, enjoy it very much indeed!
~ayelet #50
In a second thought, maybe JA can lecture you better then any of us. So, how about borrowing the book from your sister? I'm sure she won't mind, just read it, from cover to cover, don't miss a word, laugh at JA's jokes and THEN come back and tell us if you still think that Lizzy is a golddigger, ok?
~JohanneD #51
Got a funny feeling he's not there anymore ;-)
~Kali #52
Yep, I think he's had his fun, Johanne...;) Lisa, he he your younger brother, perchance? If so, I understand completely why he's doing this to you...;)
~Donna #53
OK Kali I'll bite. Why did he do this? What do you mean to her. He had nothing to back-up his assertions.
~Amy #54
Someone in the drawing room also suggested that Little Mikey may have been posting to annoy his sister as much as for any other reason. My little bro is only a year younger and in fear of me. He would not have dared such an action.
~Cheryl #55
Amy: " My little bro is only a year younger and in fear of me. He would not have dared such an action." Good for you Amy! They need to know that their life is hanging by a slim thread and that you are holding the scissors, so they had better not mess with you! Little Brother Managing brought to you by Amy and Cheryl's House of Pain.
~jane #56
My little brother, after growing up with 2 big sisters, one of whom did her best to beat him up (until, as Mom predicted, he got bigger than me) is now an obstetrician/gynecologist. Go figure. Jane
~Kali #57
That's very funny, Jane...just a little bit ironic...don't you think? ;) I threw that annoying-his-sister bit in b/c my own brother did a bit of trolling in the chat room once...;{
~lisaC #58
You hit the nail right in the head Kali. Mikey is 4 years younger than me and has always loved to annoy me but I must say that he truly enjoyed instigating all of you. He loves to stir up people's emotions and he believed that by calling Lizzie a golddigger everyone's blood would boil and he would get a reaction out of you. Boy was he right! Our whole family has been reading your comments with great enjoyment and interest. Mikey may make a cameo appearance in the chat room tonight so bring out you heavy artillary because tonight will be a no holds barred event! p.s. I hope the html works right!
~Kali #59
Beautiful HTML, Lisa...how old is Mikey? Maybe he and my brother, Stathi, should make a joint appearance in the chat room someday, just for grins...? ;)
~lisaC #60
Kali, Mikey turned 20 a couple of months ago. We will try to enter the chat room tonight if everything goes well. Hope to see you there!
~Ann #61
I think we would do best to completely ignore him.
~Cheryl #62
Ann: I think we would do best to completely ignore him. I'm with Ann here..."leave him alone and he'll go home, dragging his tail behind him."
~Kali #63
Poor Mikey! Lisa, My brother is nearly nineteen...I feel for you!
~ayelet #64
Little brothers... My sister could do this to me, if she wasn't addicetd to P&P2 as well as I am.
~JohanneD #65
Ann and Cheryl, as always am with you... As to : --he believed that by calling Lizzie a golddigger everyone's blood would boil and he would get a reaction out of you-- A constructive comment and similar reaction is always welcomed. The offense, I believe, was rather in the way those comments were performed not the comments themselves. Mutual respect in other peoples opinions is at the base of civilized societies, and we (may I speak for us?) tend to prefer the discussion approach. There are other ways to make you point then by using blunt provocation and with it anarchy prevails. Have'nt our posts been rather specific on this? Lisa, will be looking forward to meeting you in the chat room.
~Kali #66
Yeah, but perhaps Mikey's intent, being the scholar he evidently is, is to EDUCATE us as to the different rhetorical modes available for use in argument! ;) One of my brother's suitemates taped a conversation b/t my brother and another suitemate to illustrate for his linguistics class two types of "arguers": both agressive, but one being of the type which steamrolls the opposing speaker without letting him get a word in edgewise, and the otherbeing the type which listens to what the other guy has to say (after which he goes ahead and steamrolls him!)...;) I think that Mikey has, thankfully, utilized the tactics of the latter. It could have been worse!
~Kali #67
Ooops, got cut off! Add: After all, WE have been talking here for months...Mikey is brand new, and has humored our reactions up to a point...;)
~amy2 #68
He reminds me of a writing classmate of mine -- a young man who refused to show up for class; passed every time it was his turn to critique someone else's story; showed up wearing black & slouch hats, etc. I always thought he would outgrow the Angry Young Man phase & evolve into a decent writer (and person) someday.
~MikeC #69
It seems as though you gals can't get enough of me. I had no idea that I was such a dark and gloomy creature from the dead as one of you described me. Yet despite numerous attempts by you all to put an end to my fun, you come up short. I've lost count of how many times I've read "just leave little Mikey alone, he'll go away soon"..."Let's stop talking about him"...Yet, it's been over a week since I last posted and you are still talking about me as if I was one of your hero's, like Darcy for instance. Just dropped in to say hi.
~Kali #70
I can't help it, Mikey! As I have my own, dear, obnoxious little brother, I feel obligated to protect you! ;) Oh, and BTW, a week is nothing in Spring-time of late...things have been getting a bit slow around here...
~Ann #71
Hi Mike.
~Amy #72
------------------------------------------------------------------------ austen conference | Main Menu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (10:23) | Laura McCarthy (LauraM) I'm not a bruins fan but just wanted you to know that. 26 new of 26 responses total. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 1 of 26: Mike Cerulli (MikeC) * Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (11:19) * 1 lines Thank you for creating a thread just for moi. What a complement! Thanks for the show of support Laura, it is greatly appreciated! It's good to KNOW that I have at least one fan out there. Your encouragement is a small step to converting you all to my way (the only way) of thinking! I must admit that I am enjoying myself in Lizzieland. Expect more controversy in the future from me people, I'm not going away for a while... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 2 of 26: Catherine Briggs (cat) * Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (11:36) * 3 lines "...my way (the only way) of thinking..." Mike, don't you think you are getting a tad self-centered? You have got to remember there are over one hundred of us.....and most of us don't agree with you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 3 of 26: Laura McCarthy (LauraM) * Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (12:33) * 1 lines I just want to know how old are you Mike, do you remember Bobby Orr? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 4 of 26: Anna (Anna) * Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (16:02) * 5 lines my way (the only way) of thinking I hope you're joking, unfortunately on the evidence to date you take yourself so seriously that I fear not. if I misjudge you I apologise; but be aware that you are giving what I find to be an excellent imitation of a conceited ass ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 5 of 26: Mike Cerulli (MikeC) * Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (16:58) * 2 lines I am not one and twenty, therefore I never had the pleasure of watching the greatest hockey player who ever lived play."Bruins goal scored by number 4 Bobby Orr!!!!" Thanks again Laura. I hardly consider myself a conceited ass. The problem with you people is that you love this novel and series so much that you are blind to its weaknesses and faux pas. I am merely trying to get the point across that Lizzie is not a one dimensional person. That like most people in this world she is materialistic and does not walk around with a halo above her head. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 6 of 26: Amy (Amy) * Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (17:32) * 5 lines ] I am merely trying to get the point across that Lizzie is not a one dimensional person. ___ Oh. And all this time we thought she was. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 7 of 26: Johanne (JohanneD) * Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (20:39) * 1 lines Are entering the Beavis and But-Head timewarp here or what? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 8 of 26: Anna (Anna) * Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (20:41) * 14 lines my way (the only way) of thinking! I hardly consider myself a conceited ass. So you were joking, I'm so glad. May I commend the use of emoticons to you? For you are certainly being misunderstood, at least by me. The problem with you people is that you ...are blind to its weaknesses and faux pas. ...Lizzie is not a one dimensional person. I regard the depth of the characters as one of the strengths of the novel (and to a lesser extent the series), rather than a weakness, and I'm sure Jane Austen meant Lizzy to have faults, so this can hardly be regarded as a faux pas... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 9 of 26: Johanne (JohanneD) * Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (20:44) * 3 lines ---I am not one and twenty, therefore I never had the pleasure--- 1 pleasure, oooohh and seems so many more ;) Mr. Churchill, paging Mr. Churchill... Where is Mr. Knightley when we need him. Emma will certainly know, but might go overboard. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 10 of 26: Anna (Anna) * Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (21:07) * 14 lines my way (the only way) of thinking! I hardly consider myself a conceited ass. So you were joking, I'm so glad. May I commend the use of emoticons to you? For you are certainly being misunderstood, at least by me. The problem with you people is that you ...are blind to its weaknesses and faux pas. ...Lizzie is not a one dimensional person. I regard the depth of the characters as one of the strengths of the novel (and to a lesser extent the series), rather than a weakness, and I'm sure Jane Austen meant Lizzy to have faults, so this can hardly be regarded as a faux pas... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 11 of 26: Mike Cerulli (MikeC) * Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (21:41) * 1 lines H� Johanne, je ne d�cenderais pas � ton niveau d'insulte, car je crois que tu ne m�rites pas mon temps. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 12 of 26: Johanne (JohanneD) * Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (21:52) * 1 lines On r�colte ce que l'on s�me. Ma verve fut des plus mod�r�es sur d'autres fils mais en ce qui a trait � la limite permise de d�cense et de courtoisie alors l� mon vieux chapeau car tu gagne le gros-lot. Et comme toi, tr�s cher, j'aurais la courtoisie de penser ta derni�re r�plique sans avoir � te l'annoncer d'une crude fa�on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 13 of 26: Johanne (JohanneD) * Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (22:41) * 1 lines Re topic 126, response 4. Et mille excuses de ne point vous avoir adressez � la troisi�me personne du pluriel. Over and out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 14 of 26: Ann (Ann) * Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (23:15) * 1 lines Mike, I assure you we have no qualms with jumping all over the production. Keep in mind that you have come very late to our little group. We spent months on Amy's old BB ripping the show to shreads--every detail, from the looping of some of the lines, to the blocking, to the script, to the acting, to the lighting, the costumes, the make-up, to the basic story line. Just because you weren't here to see it doesn't mean we didn't do it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 15 of 26: Mike Cerulli (MikeC) * Sat, Jan 4, 1997 (23:33) * 4 lines Alright ladies this has been fun but it is time for me to go for school starts tomorrow and I am afraid you have long been desiring my absence. I will watch Wuthering Heights so that I can fulfill my role as Heathcliff. I might return every now and then to see what is going on and offer my humble opinions. In closing I would just like to thank you all for replying to me with great insight and wisdom. I hope that this experience will make me a better person so as to improve my gentlemanly behavior. Au revo r mes ch�res amies, je ne vous oublierais jamais. P.S. If you need a translation on this last line, ask Johanne. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 16 of 26: Amy (Amy) * Sun, Jan 5, 1997 (00:19) * 1 lines Surprisingly pleasing -- and a little shocking, you are right. Good wishes for a successful school year, or whatever kind of school year you wish for it to be. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 17 of 26: Caroline (Carolineevans) * Sun, Jan 5, 1997 (09:35) * 1 lines Nous nous souviens, Mike. Ciao, Caro! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 18 of 26: Caroline Evans (Carolineevans) * Sun, Jan 5, 1997 (09:38) * 1 lines ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 19 of 26: Caroline (Carolineevans) * Sun, Jan 5, 1997 (09:40) * 1 lines Alright, Johanne, I KNOW I promised to proofread, ESPECIALLY when I am using t the Frangais.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 20 of 26: Johanne (JohanneD) * Sun, Jan 5, 1997 (12:28) * 1 lines ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 21 of 26: Laura McCarthy (LauraM) * Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (09:51) * 1 lines I knew that he was not all bad. I just wish he were a little older. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 22 of 26: Amy (Amy) * Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (11:36) * 2 lines You are 25 or 26, Laura. Let's see what we can do. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 23 of 26: Laura McCarthy (LauraM) * Mon, Jan 6, 1997 (12:43) * 1 lines Ah 28 soon to be 29, is that still too old. btw Nostromo, I liked it but Serena Scott Thomas is not pretty at all. I totally prefer her sister. CF looked awesome as usual, but anyway I hope it gets better. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 24 of 26: Mary C. Fox (MaryC) * Fri, Jan 10, 1997 (22:36) * 1 lines Mikey will have quite a report to write for his teacher about 'What I did on my winter vacation'! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 25 of 26: Kali Pappas (Kali) * Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (03:46) * 1 lines Hey Lisa, at which insitution is little brother an EECS geek? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 122 of 190 [austen]: Mike I live in Boston, Lisa I think Mike is great Response 26 of 26: Lisa Cerulli (lisaC) * Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (18:46) * 1 lines My brother has forbid me from answering this question. If it were up to me I'd gladly tell you but he wants some privacy. Sorry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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