Jeremy Northam

(sigh) all alone and no one to talk to about my dearest, loveliest, Mr. Northam... Where is everyone?

At church?

Making.....................................................................Sunday dinner

Last few messages before the move: Topic 4 of 4 [austenarchive]: Another Drooling Topic - Of the Knightley/Northam Variety Response 78 of 86: winter (winter) * Fri, Jan 31, 1997 (22:35) * 12 lines (drool...drool...drool) WHERE HAVE I BEEN ALL THIS TIME! Thank GOD I've found other JN devotees! I thought I must've been going crazy! (looking in the browers five times a week or so for any more info on JN isn't considerd psychotic here, is it?) you know, i've been wondering the same thing about JN's possible reaction to seeing TWO sites devoted to him (Kaffeine and the JN World Wide). I somewhat feel awkard myself when i imagine him discovering his face and voice plastered all over the WWW. i mo stly wonder what he must think of us! JEREMY, IF YOU'RE READING THIS: I love you! Have a secret rendevous with me! Or how 'bout just getting together for drinks?! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 4 of 4 [austenarchive]: Another Drooling Topic - Of the Knightley/Northam Variety Response 79 of 86: Kali Pappas (Kali) * Sat, Feb 1, 1997 (03:57) * 5 lines JEREMY, IF YOU'RE READING THIS: I love you! Have a secret rendevous with me! Or how 'bout just getting together for drinks?! Okay, you were doing fine up until this part...this is a little psycho...;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 4 of 4 [austenarchive]: Another Drooling Topic - Of the Knightley/Northam Variety Response 80 of 86: winter (winter) * Sat, Feb 1, 1997 (12:34) * 4 lines thanks for the sanity check, kali. yes, i am losing it...but it can't be helped. (on a quick side note, if any of you are in the l.a. area, i have just received notice that the making of P&P book has been ordered at the samuel french bookstore in hollywood [sunset/fairfax area], and should be in by next week! ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 4 of 4 [austenarchive]: Another Drooling Topic - Of the Knightley/Northam Variety Response 81 of 86: Kali Pappas (Kali) * Sat, Feb 1, 1997 (19:25) * 1 lines Oh, on a side note, the other day in chat, Amy crowned Kaff Queen of Northamland (by proxy, b/c Kaff wasn't there!), and granted her dual citizenship here in the Republic of Pemberley. I was appointed Ambassador to Northamland and Monaco. ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 4 of 4 [austenarchive]: Another Drooling Topic - Of the Knightley/Northam Variety Response 82 of 86: Kathleen Grant (Kaffeine) * Sun, Feb 2, 1997 (00:42) * 1 lines I don't know what to say! As the queen, does this mean I get first dibs on him?! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 4 of 4 [austenarchive]: Another Drooling Topic - Of the Knightley/Northam Variety Response 83 of 86: Kali Pappas (Kali) * Sun, Feb 2, 1997 (00:56) * 1 lines Only if you adopt me as a Princess of Northamland! ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 4 of 4 [austenarchive]: Another Drooling Topic - Of the Knightley/Northam Variety Response 84 of 86: Cheryl Sneed (Cheryl) * Sun, Feb 2, 1997 (01:53) * 4 lines Kaffeine: As the queen, does this mean I get first dibs on him?! Kaff, it's good to be the Queen! ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 4 of 4 [austenarchive]: Another Drooling Topic - Of the Knightley/Northam Variety Response 85 of 86: Kali Pappas (Kali) * Sun, Feb 2, 1997 (04:58) * 3 lines History of the World, Part One. Too easy, Cheryl! --- So Kaff, can I be a Grand Duchess? Pleeze? Pretty-Pleeze?!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Topic 4 of 4 [austenarchive]: Another Drooling Topic - Of the Knightley/Northam Variety Response 86 of 86: Kali Pappas (Kali) * Sun, Feb 2, 1997 (04:59) * 1 lines Either that, or one of those goofy Mary Engelbreit greeting cards...;)

Oh, on a side note, the other day in chat, Amy crowned Kaff Queen of Northamland (by proxy, b/c Kaff wasn't there!), and granted her dual citizenship here in the Republic of Pemberley. I was appointed Ambassador to Northamland and Monaco. ;) __ I said Kaf, as queen (I assume her crown is uncontested) could have dual citizenship, of course. What inspired all this nonsense was Cheryl's mention of how her titles would look on a business card: For anyone who wants her own title and has some kind of paint program, there is a blank card at: http://www.spring.com/~amy/card.gif

Oops, that is not right. The blank card is called pemcard.gif http://www.spring.com/~amy/pemcard.gif

Joan wants to be Administrative Assistant to Andrew Davies (who has applied for citizenship so he can work in our national studio), only if Mr. Davies conception of the position does not include typing.

I just love that card amy! I've been flashing it all over Pemberley to be sure that I am treated with the respect and awe such titles obviously instill in everyone!

But Cheryl, those of us who know you would always treat you with exactly the amount of respect which you deserve. And your titles are AWESOME!

Kathleen: But Cheryl, those of us who know you would always treat you with exactly the amount of respect which you deserve. Exactly what I'm afraid of!

Alright ladies-if Cheryl enjoys dual citizenship, Kaff is Queen, and Kal-Princess of Northamland-Where does that leave me? Court jester??? A reminder: For any of you who don't know there is a small, but delectable pic of our dear JN in the feb. Instyle-complete with sunglasses.

Alright ladies-if Cheryl enjoys dual citizenship, Kaff is Queen, and Kal-Princess of Northamland-Where does that leave me? Court jester??? A reminder: For any of you who don't know there is a small, but delectable pic of our dear JN in the feb. Instyle-complete with sunglasses.

I guess so, Cass! ;) Amy, not to seem whiny, but I liked MY original title for this topic! :::)

Amy, not to seem whiny, but I liked MY original title for this topic! :::) Well, Kali, as the queen, I suppose I could order that it be changed!! Cassandra - You could be Lady-in-Waiting - no, not for me, for Jeremy! Actually, now that I think about it - wanna trade titles?!

Hmm-Lady in waiting-that's starting to grow on me. Although, I think I would prefer him waiting in me. You know-Cheryl keeps telling me that we will eventually have to arm-wrestle for him.

I suppose that we really should let him choose. We'll just each have to spend a night? week? month? with him and then he can declare the winner!

absolutely! JN MUST decide... i'd say one week trials, and by the end of the "trial season" he must decide on one. if he likes, he should have the option of having a 'runner up' (in case things don't work out with the first). and consolation prise for the unlucky ones is a long, passionate kiss on the mouth and a full body embrace! (that's not too much to ask considering what the winner gets). ---------- p.s.: we've heard about "mimic' coming out in march, what about 'the tribe'?

Hey! What about ME???!!!! I'm Northamland ROYALTY, for cryin' out loud!

#18-Winter(Is that your stage name?)-Don't get me started again on embraces. I feel a song coming on. You go to my head like a thousand july's. You intoxicate my soul with Your eyes...... This might be a stupid question. But, does everyone have the Miramax edition of Emma, complete with delectable pictures from the film. My personal favorite-Jeremy, looking ever so Knightley-like, being grilled by Emma and Mrs Weston concerning his rumoured affection for Jane Fairfax. Very Elegant!

cassandra (and everyone else): yes, winter is a stage name. my real name is VERY common and i've seen it show up on so many conferences,newsgroups, etc. that i just got sick of it and used winter (a character in the 'star wars' books) instead. i hated getting flamed for things i never said. hope you all of you don't mind. jeremy northam DOES look quite knightly-esque in that scene. my favorite scene (and it was mentioned before) was at the ball when he asks emma with whom she was planning on dancing. oh... don't get me started! [i'm staring at my two pictures of JN that i have taped on the wall in front of me: that sexy pose from "the net" (slight turn of the head, soulful glance) and a picture of knightly giving emma a nuzzle. oh dear! ] hey! anyone know how we can send a valentine to jeremy? i'm sure he'd love it!

Kali - You get your week, just like everyone else! So quit yer bitching! Cassandra (Is Cas or Cass okay for short?) - I may lose my crown over this, but I never purchased that edition of the book! I do have the book on tape, though - does that count?!

Actually, the pic's in the miramax edition are smallish and only in black-&-white...I didn't buy it b/c I alread have two copies of the book and figured it would be a waste of my cash... --- My WEEK? A whole WEEK? And what if he decides that he likes me BEST? ;)

Kaff-Cass is fine. About the book, I am not the head of the Northam police. Such is my JA and now my JN addiction that I couldn't resist buying it. I think I have three copies of Emma, four of P&P, one of the making of P&P...the list goes on and on. My friends find me to be the easiest person to shop for and please. I don't think I ever met an edition of a JA novel that I didn't like. Even with the black and white pics, this version is lovely. When I first opened it, I saw that Knightlesque pic and my hea t cried out...Those twinkling eyes! That profile! Those dark, wavy curls that you want to run your fingers through! But, since I didn't have any money on me, I had to go first to the bank machine. When I expressed concern at leaving the book in the shop, my sister rudely retorted-Who would want to buy that?(misinformed child) And as you probably have guessed- when I returned, someone had indeed snatched it away. Distraught but not defeated, I spent the next week hunting it down(think Mission Impossible music), until I finally found it behind some dusty books in a quaint, bohemian bookstore in the trendy Glebe section o Ottawa. Oh in case you are wondering-I am sane. There's just such a shocking lack of information and pics.

Cass, have you been to Kaff's site? She has tons o' pix in brilliant technicolor! Also, there are some nice photos at the Miramax Emma site. --- Guys, I'd expect Firth to be ahead of us at this point, but Ciaran hinds is already three messages up! Let's get DROOLING!!!!

Kali-to answer your question-yes, I have. In those long, summer days before Emma came out, I would fawn over those pictures at the Miramax site! I just see so little of him in magazines, except for the People article. But, once again-thank-you Kaff! I esecially love the GAtsbyesque pose from Fatal Inversion. I can't wait to see that one! I love the articles too-Jeremy coming in on his white horse to save the production of Hamlet, so strong and capable-very Knightley-like! Plus, I read that he broke up wit some girlfriend. May that situation remain the same, that is until he choses one of us. And-I was thinking the same thing about the Hinds situation. My Mother and I watched Persuasion last night(she's a complete Wentworthaholic) and she keeps trying to convince me of HInds sex appeal. To quote her-he's soooo intense. Go figure. And, I noticed that that Graves fellow is even gaining on us. I am shocked and grieved indeed. So, to help the drooling along: Describe your fantasy evening with the one and only JN-can be anywhere.(although let's keep details to a respectable and tasteful minimum. We wouldn't want to shock the poor guy, especially if he is reading this!)

Fantasy evening? Hmmm...well, if I have to keep it clean, then there's no point discussing it! ;)

Here, ladies, I'll help you. I have not seen Emma yet,too far and too uneducated here to be worth showing. So tell me what I am missing!;-) Cass- are you in Ottawa? We have to meet some time!

It's charming and funny, Caroline...Even if you don't think the tone is faithful to the book (which I think it is...), you will enjoy it. It is delightful - bright and sharp. It does, however, cut quite a bit, though it manages to stuff in most of the important plot elements (see the "Emma" topic on the Austen board). And Jeremy is so adorable... I must admit that I am more in love with Mr. Knightley than Jeremy (in fact, I'm not in love with Jeremy at all, though I do think he is quite attractive...), but Jeremy brings him to life...it's like channelling spirits or something...

Caroline-Do you really live in Ottawa? I go to school in London, but Ottawa is really is home, all my hangouts. I can't believe you didn't get to see Emma. I know it was playing for a long time at the World Exchange in Ottawa; I think my repeated visits kept it playing.(I've seen it ten times) I know they sometimes re-show it at the Mayfair theatre too, great vaudeville-turned movie house down on Bank. Anyways, when you do see it, I'm sure you will love it. It is truly one of the most charming, romantic, delightful films I have ever seen and for me, it was Emma. Like Kali said, some of the twists and turns are missing(like the party at Donwell when Frank makes his sudden appearance;Mr Woodhouse's main reason for giving his blessing to the E/K union), but the look, feel, spirit of Emma is there. Plus, the casting is great: GP makes a convincing and charming Emma, Spohie Thompson should get an Oscar as Miss Bates, and Jeremy Northam as KNightley.......Sigh. And Kali-I know exactly what you mean...I remember when I saw the Net, I thought JN was very talented, and of course, incredibly handsome. BUt JN as KNightley-what a powerful, irresistable combination. I'm know my ten trips to the theatre were largely because of this. For me, he was Mr Knightley: strong, capable, charming, smart, vulnerable, chivalrous, and of course-very, very romantic.

Just another thought: Guys, you know how I really feel about this Knightley fixation.....Anyone seen that Woody Allen film Play it again Sam where he's completely obsessed by Casablanca??? At the end of the movie, fantasy becomes reality when Woody finally gets his chance to say Bogie's "the problems of three little people in the world.." speech to Diane Keaton/Ilsa. And of course, his next line is-I've waited my whole life to say that.... Well, in a way(and don't call the guys with the white coats) that's how I fell about Emma. It's like I'm waiting to wake up with my hair coiffed in a GP bun and suddenly realize-no one must marry Mr Knightley but me..... WEll

God, I'm glad you guys said it. I know I'm in danger of being booted right off this thread, but Jeremy Northam does nothing for me. Mr. Knightley, however: oh, my! (Cheryl words here)

Ah, well, now you see why I'M the queen, and get to be first in line for him - for as much as I esteem his Mr. Knightly, I'll happily take him as Jack Devlin - or even as Jeremy Northam for that matter!

Now Kaff, If I actually got a chance to MEET the man, I might be impressed enough to actually fall in love with him. But until then, it's kind of lame to moon after a movie star I can't have. So until I run into Jeremy personally, I can't really say whether or not I'd have him sans Knightley persona. Pragmatism, pragmatism...;)

Kali - You can't let reality get in the way of a good drool! If I were to do that, I'd have to acknowledge that I'm happily married, and that even if I met Jeremy there is zero chance of my abandoning my husband for him. In order to enter the drool conference, you have to check reality in at the door!

Thanks, Kaff. Maybe Amy should put another new button at the top of the Drool Conference saying--Check Reality Here!!!;-) I've been doing that for quite some time, although I limit it to Topic 1 in this conference!!

Kaff -- what a marvelous idea. Then we could "tip" the young man at the "Reality Check" counter on our way out! (I have some suggestions for men to work that counter, too.) Without a reality check, it wouldn't make sense to fantasize about the characters, let alone the actors! (And we couldn't imagine becoming Emma on her wedding night.)

(And we couldn't imagine becoming Emma on her wedding night.) The ultimate for me! The character of Mr. Knightley has appeared in more of my fantasies that any other Jane Austen male.

Reality checking... terribly fun possibilities.

About reality checks-To paraphrase Blanche Dubois: I don't want reality, I want magic, magic!! And Susan-in case you are interested, my friend and I penned our own version of the newly married Mr and Mrs Knightley over at the Spring.

Bad news, folks - MIMIC's release has been postponed until sometime this summer. Personally, I think its all a giant conspiracy by Miramax to drive us insane. :)

MOre bad news-Emma won't be released on video until mid April. Miramax is really pushing for a best actress oscar nomination for GP.

#40 Cassandra, ditto on the reality checks. I get enough reality. And exactly where is this Mr. and Mrs. Knightley story? Thanks!

And what a hormonally-charged story it is! --- The bad thing about checking reality at the door is that I may never to back to retrieve it!

And what a hormonally-charged story it is! --- The bad thing about checking reality at the door is that I may never go back to retrieve it!

Oops! Note the typo I wasn't quick enough to correct in the first post...oh well...now we're ten messages ahead of that Hinds fellow...

can't let reality get in the way of a good drool! Why Kaff, that's so true and it is true the other way around too. When you have had your drool dose, it's time to look reality in the eye and cope with it, though it may sometimes lack refinement and romance. Kali, that ability can be achieved, though I won't pretend it comes without effort and pain ;=) Take it from the mouth of an old circus horse, carrying her plumage as high as ever Caroline Bingley.

Ann2 -- Caroline Bingley as a plumed circus horse, yes I can see it. With your help I finally realized of what she most reminded me! And she does perform for her audience, does she not? ; )

Susan-to answer your question, the story is over at Topic 43, somewhere between all the P&P2 scenes. I think it's at the Derbyshire writer's guild too. And What a hormonally-charged story.....I guess I did push the limits of the PG-13 rating, wanted to shake up the balance. I'm just a little tired of this Darcy drooling. Emma and Knigthley's romance is just as passionate as Darcy and Elizabeth.

#'s 40 & 49: Cassandra, I found and read your Emma and Knightley story... she even called him George. Wonderful!!! I quite agree that E & K deserve as many stories as Elizabeth and Darcy. Keep them coming, OK?!

Susan-I thank-you. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I really had fun writing it-writing is one of my passions. I already have some ideas for the next chapter. I just wish I could use some of that stuff for my creative writing class. BUt, then again,I wouldn't want to shock my Prof-very conservative type who still wears his black robes to class every day. I guess it cuts down on his clothing bill. Besides, his idea of interacting with the class, cutting loose so to speak, is spinning yarns about the good old days ith Sir Larry and the boys. WE think he means Olivier.

I liked it very much, Cassandra. I'm not good at creative stuff, but I have written Emma from the point of view of Jane and Frank - what happens between the Donwell Strawberry party and the end of the book in their minds...Cheryl is proofing and poking it around for me, but when it's ready, I'll start posting installments. I must admit, even I am beginning to love Frank! ;{ The next attempt will be their marriage, and then the mind of Miss Bates...

Kali-The story sounds great! I've always loved the Donwell party in the book, when Jane rushes off. I hope it's in the new Emma. And the mind of Miss Bates-that could take forever!!! I think we should start our own topic over at the Spring for New Emma scenes.

THere's more: I really enjoyed our JN/Knightley droolfest at Pemberley last night. Amongst his other attributes and obvious charms, I neglected to mention his name-Jeremey Northam; it rolls off the tongue so pleasantly, so easily-kinda like Mr George Knightley. HMMm: Jeremy-George/Knightley-Northam.......

Yes-there's still more. Besides, now that we've passed Mr Hinds, I think we should at least equal Mr Firth. Another song for my beloved JN. Hopefully, Noel Coward was right about the potency of cheap music. (Just joking) Gershwin Rules, along with JA!!!!!!! Once again I'm perched on a piano, Billie Holliday camellia in my hair: I've got a crush on you, sweety pie. All the day and nightime Hear me sigh. I never had the least notion, that I could fall with so much Emotion. Could you? Could you Care??? For a lovely cottage that we could Share.......... The world will pardon my mush. Cause I have got a crush-my BAAAAABY On YOuuuuuuu...........

Oh dear, Cass...now I'm getting worried...;-)

Cassandra, I loved your rebuke and love scenes at creative:s , Badly done, Emmma and Well done Knightley ,=)). To imagine they actually stayed outdoors in that soft night. Uhhmm And Kali, what joy to know that you are among those week souls that can't refrain from making their romantic inclination known to this board! Am looking forward to your contribution.

Ann2-I thank you for your compliments. There will be more when I get either time or inspiration. Kali-I'm really looking forward to reading your stories too. And CHeryl-Worried????Because I like Gershwin or Bille Holiday. At least, you don't have to hear my voice. Belive me others haven't been as fortunate.

I have written Emma from the point of view of Jane and Frank If you're interested, there's a book called "Jane Fairfax" by Joan Aiken. Its from St. Martin's Press, ISBN 0312058845. It tells the story of Emma from Jane's point of view. I didn't entirely agree with her take on how Jane and Frank got together, but it was an enjoyable read.

I think we should start our own topic over at the Spring for New Emma scenes. Please do! I have a contribution to make, inspired by Cassandra's story. It still needs a little work, but I wasn't sure where to put it when it was done.

Susan do not hesitate to post at topic 173 (?) creative something...Go to it ,lady!

I'll have to check that out, Kaff. I'm kinda torn b/t not wanting to pollute my mind with esssentially irrelevant stuff and reading everything I can about the characters I so loved in Austen's work. --- Yes, Ann2, I am weak indeed. But this level of peer pressure is unheard of in the normal course of life's events! --- Oh, and just for good measure...jeremy! JEREMY! JEREMY!!!! ;)

oh sweetie! have another dream last night? ;-)

I wish, Cheryl. I still haven't quite recovered form the last one. :}

I must admit that I am more in love with Mr. Knightley than Jeremy (in fact, I'm not in love with Jeremy at all, though I do think he is quite attractive...)... Can we say delusional? I got even Emma beat with lines like this...;)

Since I'm up, more drool fodder:

I've always liked that pic Kal, but it's also very frustrating...accustomed as I am to search for signs of dagginess, Jeremy's pose here is extremely vexing!

Oh Kali-THANK-YOU!THANK-YOU FOR THE PIC-one of my favorites, such a bewitching smile. I could say more, but this board is PG13. Everyone over at the Firth topic is always sighing over his gaze. And while not wishing to detract from Mr Firth's obvious charms, I must voice my admiration for beloved JN's gaze. Maybe it's not as intense as CF's, but all the same it is full of longing and vulnerability. One of my favs-the way he looks at Emma when she and Isabella are going to the dinner table, just before the cut to the Westons' Christmas party. I remember hearing a woman sigh in the theatre during this scene. It was probably me!

As the above seems to indicate, he's consciously aware of the dagginess factor. ;) I've never seen a daggy shot of Jeremy. Ever. He's immune. Ah, yes, his gaze! CF is good at the intense stare thing, but I'm afraid he's a one-trick pony. Jeremy's expressions are as diverse and endearing as they can get - that's talent! I love his reactions. The pianoforte scene is the best...

Kali: As the above seems to indicate, he's consciously aware of the dagginess factor. ;) I've never seen a daggy shot of Jeremy. Ever. He's immune. *pout* :-(

Cheryl, Cheryl, Cheryl...;)

Come on, people. I need droolmates! I can't do this alone! Er, well, I CAN do it alone, but...;)

Kali: Come on, people. I need droolmates! I can't do this alone! Er, well, I CAN do it alone, but...;) Yes dear, I know you can! ;-)

Hi all you Jeremy fans! May I comment briefly, but intensely on his FABULOUS voice? I caught a radio interview with him when he was in NYC and he was not only smart, he was FUNNY! He held his own with those ridiculous disc jockeys. He's such a babe. I actually prefer Mr. Knightly to Mr. Darcy -- he's so much more able to laugh at himself!!!!!

There you go, Kal.

He's not only smart, but funny: You're just beginning to realize this??? HE IS Mr Knightley!!!!!!!!!!Plus, he's handsome, charming, self-confident(but never pushy or aggressive), sexy, vulnerable, witty, talented.....Kali-can you help me out with some more adjectives? And yes The Voice: Once could go on and on. Such a vulnerable, Cambridge-bred lilt that makes me positively weak in the knees. I can close my eyes and still here his Marry, me my wonderful, darling friend or whom are you going to dance with? I must get those EMMA TAPES!!!!! And KAli-Jeremy wallpaper-what a tantalizing idea!!!!!! I have one picture of him on my wall, from the proposal scene in Emma, where he's caressing GP's face. Thanks for the pic too-another favorite. He looks so handsome(when doesn't he?)-such an aristocratic profile and great hair.

Cassandra -- you made me howl! I think I just ran into one heck of a Jeremy Northam fan. I concede to your enthusiasm. You're right -- HE IS MR. KNIGHTLY! And, the last I heard, (from his own lips no less) he was unattached. Is that still true?

is he unattached!? of course! only for the moment, until he meets ME! our eyes will meet and he will instinctively KNOW that we are meant for one another ( cassandra, kali: what a coincidence: i have BOTH the picture above and the proposal scene blown up and hanging on my wall! great minds think alike!) ahh.. what i wouldn't do to hear that voice. many a time i've dreamt of having his VOICE being the first thing I hear in the morning.....oh, and imagine, a valentine's day with jeremy!!!! oh my, quick! i need a reality check... cold shower please!

He sparkles, for Chrissake. More adjectives: impish, endearing, well-bred...

I think WInter's gone clinical on us...;) I colorprinted all the good Miramax JPEGS for my wall...

Oh, and this is a little something I came up with at Arnessa's and Cheryl's requests: They said that there was no room in their fantasies for the woman who had been butt-up next to him, so I "removed" her...

Another adjective: PERFECT!!!

And not only does he posess all of the above named perfections, but he is a newly converted baseball fan! What more can we ask, indeed, what more can we need?

Indeed, Mari...I can lure him in by taking him to Giants games! ;)

Hey-maybe he likes the BLue Jays! And Sweet Buckles-he is indeed unattached. He hasn't found me, I mean Emma yet!

kali: They said that there was no room in their fantasies for the woman who had been butt-up next to him, so I "removed" her... Thank you dearest! *samooch* But was there nothing you could do about that pesky sheet?? ;-)

But was there nothing you could do about that pesky sheet?? ;-) Cheryl, you never fail to make me laugh -- you're one of the best reasons for signing onto the Spring!

Come to Pemberley Susan! ;-)

No, Cass...I specifically remember him admiring one of the Giants' pitchers...(no, not in that way....)...;)

We watched The Net again tonite...needless to say, we were happy campers. ;) My friends who were Northam virgins, however, reamrked that they were a little afraid of him after the whole Jack thing...so I hooked them for an Emma date come April...I think that they will see the light yet...

JAck baby!!!!I think I know what I'm going to rent tonight. HAve you seen Carrington? Hmm-NOrtham virgins. Kali, I must again compliment you on your witty turn of phrase. And yes, I do think they will see the light come April. I took one of my friends to see Emma(never read the book, non-austen type who hasn't even seen P&P2) last summer and she cried and cried from the dance scene to the proposal scene. It was quite the bonding experience. To quote her: WHO IS HE? HE IS SUCH A BABE!AND HE LOVED HER SO!!! ANd not only that-the age difference between us and JN is about the same as that between Mr Knightley and Emma. I'm all astonishment. HE IS MR KNIGHTLEY!!!!!!

i rented "carrington" when i was a "northam-virgin" a few months back. to be honest, I hated it! In fact, I stopped the tape about 15 minutes into the film and didn't bother to see it again. Imagine my surprise when I found out Jeremy was in it! How much screen time has he got? because i'd be much more willing to give carrington a second chance knowing that HE's in it. otherwise, I'll just take your words for it and assume that he's brilliant (and why wouldn't he be?)in it.

Just fast forward right near the end...;)

SNORT.

Oh, Cass...re: crying through Emma...I never cry at movies, but the "With whom are you going to dance with?/With you if you will ask me!" really knocked the wind out of me...each time I saw the film. And, of course, the proposal scene...I was bawling uncontrollably. Unabashed and uncompromised sobs. Ooh Baby.

You too? I never cry either, its the Elinor in me. BUt, yes. YEs! The dance scene chokes me up-he can do more with a look, voice inflection than most men can do.......WEll, you get the point. And the proposal scene-the pained expression on his face-well, perhaps you are wise. SO vulnerable, so tortured-I rode through the rain and I would ride through a lot worse. HE is PERFECT! When I was complaining last night about this Mark Strong Guy and my Mother retorted, rather sarcastically, that come April I can watch/freeze frame JN as much as I please. She thinks I'm mad, yes madly, hopleslessly in love with MR KNightley. And Winter-regarding Carrington. It isn't a great movie. If you blink you miss him. Luckily I wasn't during a very interesting scene with ET, on a boat.

I got out my trusty thesaurus: HE's magnetic,charismatic, masterful, ebullient, effervescent, scintillating. He ooozes charm from every pore-he's DELIGHTFUL, HE'S DELICIOUS, HE'S DE-LOVELY.......... HIs name is like a golden bell hung around my heart and everytime I think of him, the bell sings and rings: JEREMY! JEREMY! JEREMY! I'm not really crazy, i just watched Cyrano last night.

and you all thought I was headed for the loony bin! ;-) This is a desperate situation ladies! We MUST get a Jeremy fix SOON or I'm afraid we shall all go mad! Not even one article, not one trailer for "Mimic". And I can't even find "Fatal Inversion" at the video store!!!!! oh well, i'm off to see Kenneth Branagh's 'Hamlet' this afternoon. maybe that'll distract me momentarily. But then again, I just may end up lamenting over the fact that Jeremy's not in it. Pining for Jeremy, winter

I'm sure it doesn't take much to distract you Winter.

Oh Cass darling, are you unwell? ;-)

Perfectly well, Cheryl Darling. I've been called kooky, even off the wall, but never that. Perhaps you were thinking of someone else?

Re: #98 from Winter My Dear Madam, I am greatly concerned with your health -- are you still suffering from this withdrawal? I have a possible remedy, at least in the short term. I tried to send you an email message which my server tells it has not yet been able to deliver. I reprint that message below: Winter: Such a cry for help; I simply cannot stand idly by. : ) I have a copy of "Fatal Inversion" which I would be most happy to lend you. Email your address to me (kelder@miworld.net at home, or my email at work is k_elder@fre.fsu.umd.edu) Your humble servant, madam, kathleen

Kathleen, could I possibly borrow it next? :)

hello all... i'm perfectly well now. now that i've escaped the confines of my apartment and schoolwork (i'm a graduate student) and have seen 'hamlet', i feel like i'm somewhat 'over' my JN withdrawl. 'hamlet' was excellent, and kenneth branagh was superb as usual. though... i have to admit, i DID think of JN during one point of the film, when i thought how well he might've done as laertes (ophelia's brother). oh well, we can'r have it all, can we? kathleen! THANK YOU for you offer! i'm surprised that living out here in l.a., not one video store i've visited carries a copy of 'fatal inversion'. i'll ry other stores, and if not, i shall email you immediately and try to borrow your copy. i have no idea how much postage will be, but i can definitely reimburse you for whatever the shipping will cost. you're very generous!

Last night's 1996 BBC adaptation of "Jane Austen's EMMA" proved the impresson of Jeremy Northam's Mr. Knightly so strong that it brew away the Mark Strong's into dust. Geez, I thought I got off from the JN addiction for a while, but this new EMMA broadcast brought back memories...

LADIES - I am most distressed and in need of help! (No, not about A&E EMMA) For some unknown reason, my Jeremy Northam board is being taken over by 13 year olds looking for dates!! Seriously!! I have no clue how or why they have chosen my site, but after talking with Amy I may have a solution. If each of you would pound my board with Jeremy drooling for the next few days, perhaps we can convince them that they are underaged and overmatched! They may have just decided that since the board is so quiet, they would borrow it - let's blow them away with Jeremy drooling! http://www.worldrch.com/northam/northamboard.html THANK YOU!!!

so someone else has noticed this really odd series of postings. kathleen, don't worry, i've posted something, and will probably add more of my drooling to get them off. we've got to get rid of these northamboard squatters... they're really bugging the s*** out of me.

I feel like I'm in the twilight zone! I just deleted over 200 bogus messages! I've changed the name of the script - which means that you can post and reply to new messages (starting with the one posted by me, titled "The New EMMA") but will get error messages if you try to reply to any older messages. What a pain!!

All I can say is THANK-YOU JN!!!!

Oh, Kaf, was it vandalism -- or just stupidity?

Okay - here's what happened. A couple of days ago I got an e-mail from someone who was unable to post to the board. It had been a few days since there had been a post, so I went and tried a test post. I got an error message. I checked the script, the permissions...then looked at the messages directory. The highest number post on my site was something like 245 - and yet there were files going all the way up to the high 300's in the messages directory! So when someone tried to post, the script tried t create file 246.html - but it already existed, so they got an error message! I was, and still am, clueless as to how this happened, but I deleted all of them, and was able to post. That's when the teen posting started. I have no idea how it could be being done, but I think that someone else is using my script! And I think that's why there were a couple of hundred bogus posts - they were all fake responses (no new text) to a real post - all with different "people" posting them. I think that whoever is using my script needed the count to be back in the high 300's - so he just created tons of fake posts. I've changed the name of the script, which will screw him up - but there's nothing to stop him from doing it again, unless I can figure out how its being done - and I don't have the slightest clue!!

Kaf you want to just move it to bluemarble for a while?

Trouble with that Matt's script is it is so widely used.

Kaff, is it fixed yet? :)

RE#111 -- Kaffeine: I'm so sorry this happened to you -- how very vexing. Hope you got it fixed.

Oh Honey Pie, my position is tragic - Come and show me the magic [more than show, if you please...]- Of your Hollywood song [hey wait, can you sing?]! Now Honey Pie, you were driving me frantic [still are]- Sail across the Atlantic [California's not really that bad...is it?] - To be where you belong... You became a legend of the silver screen [well, maybe not that old...], Oh, you're always on it [at least at my house...]... Now Honey Pie, you were driving me frantic - Sail across the Atlantic - To be where you belong...! Lennon/McCartney...with my own parenthetical interjections...

ROTFLOL Kal! I don't think this is what Paul had in mind when he wrote this! ;-)

I doubt he did, but it serves my purposes beautifully, don't you think? ;)

Ohh KAli! Bravo!! And I must admit the Beatles have the most appropriate lyrics. What do you think of a new Beatles movie with JN as one of the fab four? I hear he has an incredible singing voice(doesn't surprise me-that VOICE). I'd like to see him as Ringo, shaking his hair in time to the music. GREAT HAIR!!! I read somewhere that JN was considered as a possible James Bond, successor to Brosnan. The possibilities are endless!!!!!!!

JN as James Bond -- now there's a REAL Bond! Brosnan, pretty though he is, is WAY TOO SKINNY. I worry about him constantly getting hurt while I'm watching the film. Is that any way to react to Bond, James Bond? Our JN has a scrumptious bod. That photo shown earlier is SO beautiful. WHAT A MAN!

So far, so good. No mystery posts today. Let's hope its over and done with! Kali - LOL!!! You are truly warped...my favorite kind of person! Cas - Oooh, Bond...Jeremy Bond. I could indeed picture that! (Over and over again!)

And the VOICE: MY NAME IS BOND, JEREMY BOND!!!!! I confess i have never wanted to be a Bond girl so much.

I love you guys. We're all warped together...

I tend to identify with Xenia Onatopp, myself...;) She and Jack Devlin would make quite a pair, dontcha think?

Heres that lovely Cosmo pic again...thanks again, Anne... BTW, can somebody hunt up Jeremy's birthday? We know it has occurred in the last few months, but we know not exaclty when...

drool... drool...drool....and that unbuttoned shirt!!!!!

Ah ladies, will not sleep tonigh, not at all. This catches up with me and fast! To think I believe Emma 3 would have sustained me until April, I'm now in deep trouble, but thanks to this topic I can marvel and anticipating his lovely repartee aahhhhh

Well, kal, I like that pic much more than the other goatee one you showed me at PCR...I like it very much indeed...Hmmmmm.....;-)

Keep your shirt on Cheryl...;-P BTW, those of you who've been wondering about his Saks ads shouldn't hold your breath. The term DAGGY comes to mind - Jeremy ISN'T immune after all. It is nice to know, however, that Jeremy was never meant to be a male model (never trust a pretty man...)! ;) I fear I'm more in love than I ever was before...why should I expect him to look good in Prada when I don't?! ;)

I am so glad to find this "drool room." I was searching for the old P&P2 bulletin board site and finally reached the promised land. :) My major crush on JN started when I first saw him in EMMA. My Austen-ization actually started with 1995 BBC/A&E P&P; the very next day I went to see EMMA. JN's Mr. Knightly really charmed me to my core. I read all the JA's novels after that, and surprisingly the novel EMMA did not disappoint me about the film. I cruised around the net to find more about JN, and found some including Kaffeine's JN web page and the Net and EMMA promos. But at that time I couldn't find any site discussing about JN in this manner. I abandoned my search for JN for a while. I got on the net specifically for EMMA discussion purpose after the BBC/A&E version's broadcast and found so much lively discussion going on about JN!! I thank whomever started this fabulous forum.

I am so glad to find this "drool room." I was searching for the old P&P2 bulletin board site and finally reached the promised land. :) My major crush on JN started when I first saw him in EMMA. My Austen-ization actually started with 1995 BBC/A&E P&P; the very next day I went to see EMMA. JN's Mr. Knightly really charmed me to my core. I read all the JA's novels after that, and surprisingly the novel EMMA did not disappoint me about the film. I cruised around the net to find more about JN, and found some including Kaffeine's JN web page and the Net and EMMA promos. But at that time I couldn't find any site discussing about JN in this manner. I abandoned my search for JN for a while. I got on the net specifically for EMMA discussion purpose after the BBC/A&E version's broadcast and found so much lively discussion going on about JN!! I thank whomever started this fabulous forum.

Gee, I don't mean to post twice the same thing. Sorry. This browser posts several times for some reason with one hit on the submit button. Any solutions? And I am sorry if this appears in multiples.

Whatever you do, don't hit RELOAD!!! ;) Welcome home, Sage. In whichever order you discovered Jeremy and Mr. Knightley, it all equals the same. I've been an Emma person for years, and I must say that Jeremy's boofull (a term I borrow regularly from Ralph Ellison) portrayal of my beloved George Knightley really endeared him to me. They have become one in the same. Words cannot express my appreciation. But you guys already knew that.

Or are the catfights yet to come? I think we're fine, unless Mr. Northam himself should drop by here - then its every woman for herself!! ;)

I couldn't agree more-JN is MR KNightley!! The two have become one in my mind. He portrayed MR KNightley as I always imagined him-strength, honor, vulnerability, chivalry...I too cannot be more thankful. Inspired by KAli's lovely Beatles contribution and a certain awe-inspring pic above, I feel compelled once again to break out into song. This board is becoming a regular MGM-style musical. Long Ago and FAr away, I dreamed a dream And NOw that DReam is near, beside me(that is whenever MIramax finally releases it) LOng ago-the skies were overcast. But, now they're clear-at laaaaaaaaast Chills run up and Down my spine Aladdin's Lamp is mine The dream I dreamed is not denied me Just one look(last August) and I kneeeeew That all I longed for LOng ago WAs YOUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuu

BTW-I read that Jeremy is a Calvin Klein man. Supposedly, one of his favorite places is NY is the CK Store on Madison Avenue. I wonder if GP introduced him to it???

Mine's better. ;) Calvin Klein, huh? Not bad. I'm a Ralph Lauren girl myself.

Mine's Better-Agreed! And I'm sure your voice is too. My voice's closest equivalent is Mary In P&P2. My Dad has made me promise never to sing or cook. My singing gives him migraine headaches and as for my cooking-I did it once and let's just say I have never seen anyone run so fast for the bathroom. BAck to JN: Comeon ladies let's make 200. Have any of you ever seen Jeremy on those chat shows-Regis, Letterman, ET....???? I vaguely remember him promoting the NET on some entertainemt show-they called him this classically, trained handsome British theatre actor. How banal can you get! The only other time-a brief tv soundbite on the Today show regarding Emma-once again handsome was used to describe him. I do recall JN saying in that lilting voice that playing Mr Knightley was a "lovely" thing for him to o. Sigh. In a way, I'm glad he doesn't appear on those shows, although I would love to see him. It's very dignified, Knightley-esque.....YES-SB-WHAT A MAN!!!

oh that picture above!!!!!!! I think that seals it for me; I've got it all figured out. It's Darcy that does it for CF, but JN's skills have nothing to do with Knightley, they're all his own!!!! ohhhh

Right, Cindy...that's what's so dangerous! I'm afriad I'll never get over it. *SIGH!* I have a Jeremy shrine above my computer...this is getting scary...Becky, you're wrong! I'm not being sane about this at all!!! :) BTW, their are some cool quicktime films over at the Carrington site... http://spider.media.philips.com/PFE/carrington/bio-northam.html

YES! DEFINITELY YES!!! He has spoiled me for other men and as I've told Cheryl-I don't want to be cured. Seeing him as the Mr KNightley I have always loved and dreamed about clinched it for me. And the more I read about him, the more enamoured of his charms and wit I become. IT's a hopeless case, is it not? KAff coined it-he is Jeremy KNightley. I'm still swooning over that Cosmo pic. As my granny would say-he has bedroom eyes, don't you think???

Kali - Thanks for the welcome and "reload" warning. I do recall reloading the document.... As for JN being a CK man, he doesn't look like he's wearing them in different magazine photos. Giorgio Armani or Ferre might suit him better, but I hope he's not one of those men who are obsessed with fashion. He is just fine with a white T-shirt and blue jean. :) :) I for one thing want to see JN plugging his upcoming project on TV. To promote Emma, G. Paltrow went around quite a few talk shows, and I know Toni Corrette (sp?) did Conan O'Brien show. But I don't remember JN appearing any. I thought JN is pretty much unknown to the US audience so the shows booked the more recognized faces. ( Toni Corrette did Muriel's Wedding. Although JN did the NET, a box office success, the movie itself was relying on Sandra Bullock's charm. BTW I read he had difficult time u derstanding the character and motivation. ) But then I do have mixed feelings; I hope JN succeed in his career but I don't want him to be so popular that he is the first spot on Jay Leno or Letterman. I want to keep him confined to a relatively small circle. Yeah, I know it's selfish. Does JN work out regularly? And where ? :) :)

Yeah, that's my fear too, Sage. Wouldn't want him to become an infamous bastard or anything, would we now? ;) I, too, read that Jeremy was at loggerheads with others - and himself - over Jack. I know he's tried to defend Jack on occasion, saying that he was this tragic psycho at odds with himself over his love for Angela, but somehow, I just can't believe that. There's a little part of me deep-down that is attracted to the pure evil of the character (I guess that's the Xenia in me, Cass!). As far as Jeremy's natural sartorial instincts, I think they're quite good. He dresses himself very flatteringly...he's one of the few people who can dress youthfully and carelessly and get away with it. He's not one who can wear trendy little outfits, however, which is fine with me. Simple and/or classic seem to suit him best. Yes, Cass...he's hotter'n a pistol! But we already knew that. I'm sure there are plenty of real-life Mr. Knightleys out there, but for some reason, I never meet them. Until then, Jeremy is a safe point of obsession... ;)

Will fame spoil Jeremy?: I certainly hope not. BUt, from what I've read he seems pretty grounded-he likes to act, he's not in it for the bucks or to be the next HUgh Grant. "THERE are better parts to play". CAn't you just hear him say that in that VOICE??? THis self-confidence, of course, just makes him even hotter! Most men don't have a clue who they are. ANd as for the NET, I thought he was brilliant/sexy/even funny in a twisted way as JAck(yes XENA AND JD would make quite the pair)-loved the scarf arou d the waist touch. Maybe the JAck Devlin role was one of the reasons he didn't want to play Willoughby in S&S. HE didn't want to be typecast as the suave seducer. ANd SAge-I remember reading that JN was afraid they were going to fire him from the NET. SO he worked out before the filming of the "boat scene". HE think's he's an "ugly bastard". Perhaps, he should visit this board.. HAndsome, charming, witty, suave, self-assured and even modest. The man is not just hot, HE SIZZLES!!!

Those interested in viewing the Saks pages I scanned from DETAILS can find them here: No. 1 No. 2 No. 3 No. 4 No. 5 No. 6

JN seems to get off on a lot of boats, does he not? ;)

Those interested in viewing the Saks pages I scanned from DETAILS can find them here: No. 1 No. 2 No. 3 No. 4 No. 5 No. 6

AAAARRRGGGGGHHHH! I HATE Netscape sometimes!

Here's my favorite Jeremy pic, tied perhaps with the Cosmo and Knightley images above...oh, and those wedding shots from Emma...oh, hell! Here it is anyway...

Isn't he cute? :)

Woo-hoo! Messages number 150 and 151!!! We make catch that Firth guy yet...

Is it not blatantly obvious that I'm bullshitting? I'm going to bed now...beat me to death the next time I do this, okay? :)

favorite Jeremy pic, tied perhaps with the Cosmo pic and the KNightley images above..... It's hard to chose, is it not, in the face of such perfection? I agree-the Cosmo pic completely blew me away, and YES! YES!! I love the proposal scene shot above-he has that vulnerability in his eyes(Well, perhaps you are wise) and that hair. OOH BAby! I also love the shot from the Miramax book-he's about to kiss GP. LOve all of his profile shots. Doesn't our Jeremy KNightley have the most classically perfect features? I like his eyebrows. And the nose and the strong chin. IT denotes strength of characte . KAl-you KNow what pic I wish I had? The pianoforte scene-especially that devilish twinkle in his eyes when he catches GP's glance. And that smile! OOHHH!!!

Let's keep drooling. We may make it to 200, yet. Many thanks to KAli, Grand Duchess of Northamland, for the peak at the Saks pics. Personally, I'm relieved he will never make it as one of those blank-slate models; He's his own MAN, possessing far too much wit and expression!!! I agree-I think he looks best simple, classic, like in the Cosmo PIC. REgarding the Saks pics, I especially like numbers one and six. HE looks GOOD in white. Can't you just see him, those dark, swarthy good looks, in an Armani, Gats y-esque, cream-coloured suit?

REgarding Boats-yes, they do seem to play quite the prominent role in his career. I think he's amused by it. Don't you love his eyes? They are like mocking, vulnerable, twinkling, devilish all at once. So expressive!

Yep, he's a little devil, he is. He's dark, and his features are sharp...and yep, those eyes throw sparks. And you wonder why Persephone was sad to leave her mother for life as Queen of the Underworld...silly girl! Cass, you know full well that my favorite Jeremy Moment is the expression during that pianoforte scene! That smirk, the snap in his eyes...the position in which he's sitting...the amused, jealous, disapproving, smitten, helpless expressions of both face and form. He really made me feel the gamut of emotions tearing up and down the poor man's body...yow! It was at once agonizing and hilarous to watch.

Hey, check out Susan's super-spiffy, hormone-packed story downstairs in fanfic! Ooh baby...that George Knightley is sex maniac, and Emma a closet nymphomaniac! ;)

Thanks for the tip, KAli! Susan-I loved it!!! You've inspired me too-I think I know how I'm going to continue Emma: DEja-vu. ANd KAli-the pianoforte scene is sheer brilliance!!! I felt every expression, range of emotions-He made me FEEL!!!!!! I love the way he looks when Frank Churchill gets up-so concerned, hurt, disaproving. He looked like he wanted to strangle him and the way he sinks down in the chair, and holds on to the armrests. OOOHHH!!! Best of all-the romantic way he looks at Emma before the duet starts-kinda like Gatsby. Just like Jordan, wE all want such a man to look at us like that, someday. OH and his body language-again so expressive. I love the way he slides over to Emma(such animal grace) and the way he said-you're playing was lovely. VERy Elegant! That VOICE! Another favorite Jeremy Knightley moment: the sexy, devilish, knowing look on his face when Elton sits between them and tells Mr KNightley that he will look after his dear sister-in-law.

Kali, I like picture no. 1 the best. RED Hot!!!!

Can we now call this the Cass/Kali thread? Girls, you are far gone!

We know. Shoot us now.

I don't think those of us in the Firth Drool are in much better shape, but what a fun addiction this is!

Just found this drool site..What a find..there's more than the JN web forum to look forward to. Love the Knightley side-pose from contributions way-above. Have not seen that one in any of the EMMA or JN web pages. Is this contributing towards the 200 mark??

winter is back! i was gone for JUST 2 1/2 days this past weekend for a family reunion up in canada, and what do i find waiting at home for me?!? JEREMY DROOLING IS ALIVE AND WELL! Spring's just around the corner, baby, and you can definitely tell from this conference! i bought the details and cosmo magazines before i left this weekend, and completely forgot to take them along with me for portable drooling. and now, i've come home and my bofriend flew into town for the weekend, leaving me to drool in secret as he sleeps in the other room!!! the guilt! i have so much to catch up on, especially the fanfic! argh!

Ooh baby! Welcome, Serena. I recognize you from Kaff's (kathleen's) BB... I have a little collection of JN photos (including the profile shot) at http://www.spring.com/~dxiechkn/jeremy They're not laid out yet, but they're all in one place...;)

Kali, I just returned from viewing your collection of JN photos. How fun was it also to get a look at the SAKS photos. High fashion most often strikes me as just plain ugly, and to be honest, I much prefer our Jeremy in casual clothes and tossled hair. Some of my favorite pics of JN are those taken from THE NET. I couldn't believe the bad guy (I drooled over him when I saw the movie in theatre -- how often do you get a guy that turns you on at first sighting of him??!) was Mr. Knightly?! After seeing Emma, I dashed out to rent the video of THE NET and replayed my favorite moments over and over again. He's so incredibly seductive. I think he could talk me into just about anything and I consider myself pretty darn tough. He melts me.

REG 160: BECKS: IT's a hopeless case. I've always been susceptible to crushes(the Cyrano factor). A certain MR Brosnan comes to mind and a few years ago I thought I was madly in love with Arthur Kent, swashbuckling journalist. Usually, I get over it(discover some imperfection like Anthony Patch in the Beautiful and the Damned) and/or get bored. BUt JEREMY!!!!! Sweet Buckles-I agree. He is incredibly seductive. I fear if I ever did meet the man(and what's the probability of that?) I would fall even more m dly in love with him!

One right after another, eh Cass? I hate to admit it, but that's me too...;} SB - you mean the first glimpse as in the back of his head at the airport? ;) Though I jest, I have to admit that Jeremy has the nicest reverse 3/4 view in existence...or at least in film!

Nice collection Kali. It's a nice touch, the occasional photo as I scroll down to this reply box. How difficult is it to 'paste' a photo here?? Had a great wallpaper, head- shot of JN in Fatal ..but it bothered the hubby and he vendalised it..so that's gone from the sceen. Anyone knows any news about who Jeremy is might currently be seeing??

Welcome, Serena. See Ann's tag tutorial for information on how to put up pictures here, and do other tricks. http://www.spring.com/~anneh/tagsaaaa.html

Last we heard, he'd broken up with his steady of nine years. Who knows what he's up to nowadays. Might be interesting to find out. Sorry about your wallpaper!

Cass, I love your list. I forgot about dear Arthur. My younger bro was in Saudi, but watching CNN really got to be too much fun

Hi y'all -- do any of you know where I can get a copy of DETAILS which carried the Saks ads? Is it a magazine? When did it come out? DANKE!

Been unable to post here for ages but try to check in as often I can anyway.. I'm desperatly waiting for Mimic.. I mean who isn't? But in the mean time.. could anyone pleaze tell me from what number of Cosmo (is it the American edition?) that indeed VERY nice pic is from?? Hope to be able to find it here in Lund but if it's an old one that might be difficult... sigh..

Sweet - Details is a magazine. The Saks ad is in the current issue (March 97) with Jared Leto on the cover. Look through it before you buy it, though - the ad isn't in all the copies. I bought the magazine, and the ad isn't running in SE Michigan! :( Gabriella - The Cosmo issue is also the current issue (March 97), the American edition.

Kaff, did you get the Saks catalog? I had to reorder cuz they only sent me the Folio, housewares, and women's apparel catalogs...:( Oh well. At least I have the DETAILS ads...:)

People...we're approaching 200...though the Firth topic is forever iterating to the nth power, we may yet catch up!

This is my FAVORITE pic! I'm new at this tag thing, so forgive me if this attempt is a complete flop!

That is a lovely picture of people in love, Sweet. Sad.

Hey Amy - I like your Sweet followed by Sad. It is rather sad, isn't it? I have this darn pic pasted around my apartement, my cube at work and even in my Franklin Planner. This is my romantic goal, but let's be honest: what are the odds here? It's hard enough just finding a straight guy in NYC, let alone an available, sexy, charming, honest one! So -- my hunt continues. At least I'll recognize him when I find him -- he will, in many ways, resemble my Mr. Knightly. Does anyone know what kind of role JN plays in Mimic? Bad guy again? Is there any romance? (If not, what a WASTE!)

He plays some sort of scientist. Apparently, there is some sort of romance. --- I like that picture very much, as well. I have the archery scene and the non-touchy version of the proposal on the cork board above my desk. Emma is indeed a bittersweet story. Sweet becuase it ends so perfectly, and bitter because I doubt I'll ever be that lucky. Oh well...why aspire to relationships and marriage when no one so charming as Mr. Knightley ever finds me sufficienty charming myself? ;)

Wow! Talk about delusional! ;)

After seeing Jeremy in Emma, there was no comparison to A&E's Mr. Knightly. When is his Emma coming on video so I can slow motion the good parts? sbuckley, thanks so much for that picture! It will hold me over until the video comes out.

SB: THANK-YOU!!!!!!! That is the exact picture that I have on my bedroom wall. Doesn't he have the most tender arms and kissable lips??? I adore that pose-so so protective, so warm. It's my goal too. I call it the "forehead/nose- Astaire/Rogers Carioca dance embrace". This REALLY IS SAD! I admit I've gone out with lesser beings. It's bad enough comparing them to Mr KNightley or Mr Darcy, but now I also compare them to Jeremy KNightley! I try to think optimistically, like Kali. There MUST be real life Mr K ightley's out there, although I too have yet to meet any. Sigh. Cindy and Kali: I really am a heartless guttersnipe-a regular la donna e mobile. And yes-Cindy watching CNN did become way too much fun! He will always be dear Arthur to me too. That leather jacket and fearless expression in his eye:"Patriot missiles-FOCUS! Focus! He has great dark hair and a sexy, resonant,deep voice-two of my basic requirements.

Does anyone know what kind of role JN plays in Mimic? Bad guy again? Is there any romance? From Cosmo: "...Not that the 35-year-old thespian doesn't have a tender side. In fact, he considers MIMIC to be first and foremost a love story. 'Well, its a modern apocalyptic-horror-sci-fi-thriller-love story, ' he says with a laugh. 'Use as many hyphens as you like.'"

SB: "What a waste!" No kidding! And I read somewhere that he's never been more unemployed as an actor. Those brainless, Hollywood twits.... My dear sister subscribes to a lot of Brit magazines. This week she sent me a review of Emma, together with a very charming pic of JN-proposal scene again! Anyways, they called Jeremy "this GORGE BIT OF STUFF-the suave, dashing Mr Knightley. And when Emma finally realizes that she's in love with him....Ooh, it makes you go all warm inside!" I couldn't have said it better.

with a laugh, "Use as many hypens as you like...." OH God! The more I read, the more I'm in love with this MAN!!!!!

Someone hit me with his address or email quick!! Who, if any, is this man seen with?? Someone in the other Bulletin B. said ages ago, that she had met Jereny in a theather class in London and she found him intelligent and nice in person. Don't think I could have been in a class with him and still walked out looking respectable or sounding that sober.

No kidding, Serena.

Oops...try again...

Re: the Cosmo snippets: Isn't this guy the most lovable goofball you've ever witnessed?

It's nice to keep on witnessing

Woo-hoo! Just seven more messages, and we're at the magic 200 mark! Keep posting, ladies... BTW, Cass...what is a "guttersnipe"? ;}

oh yes, please! Who IS this person who had a class with JN in London? I'm dying to know more! He does strike me as a very charming and intelligent person, and having read the latest interview in Cosmo makes me love him even more! The little snippet about him having to sell his flat in London has got me day-dreaming again: I'd gladly house-sit for him if he needed someone to look after his flat!!!!! and what a homecoming he should after after his exhausting schedule... let ME recharge those batteries for you, baby!!!!

Get in line, Honey.

the more I read about him the better it sounds.. Jeremy Jeremy.. does he even know what he does to us all?? thanx for the info Kaffeine! I'm off to invest in a copy of Cosmo now..66Skr (about 6 dollars I think??)..luckily I got my studentsgrant today :)

Wendy posted a blurb in the Ramble topic which I think is important for us to remember whilst singing the praises of our Jeremy: "Small minds discuss persons. Average minds discuss events. Great minds discuss ideas." Not to throw a wet blanket on the drooling, but it got me contemplating our direction here (that and a recent discussion with my dearest Cassandra). If all we do is post "He's so cute." and "Yeah, isn't he?" we'll run out of stuff to talk about, and we'll get bored! At this point, then, it might be helpful to discuss more about WHY we like him so much...to delve into what lurks in our minds and hearts (after all, the Shadow knows, so why can't the rest of us?)...are we bored, obsessive, desperate, hor y, what? And on his part...is it just becuase he's a good-looking, seemingly nice guy, or is there really a divine spark in his acting which draws us to him? Maybe I'm asking for a solution to a question of the ages, but I've always wondered...what is the anatomy of a crush? Is it similar for everyone?

Since I brought it up, I'll go first (unless some Speedemon has beaten me to the punch)...but this is nothing new. My fondness for Jeremy springs mainly from his excellent portrayal of my Mr. Knightley. Before I saw Emma last fall, I didn't even know who he was. After seeing the film, I was overcome with a sense of gratitude and respect, as the guy breathed life into this most beloved character...it was almost a cosmic-channeling thing! Of course, I thought he was incredibly attractive, b t I assumed that it was the character (he is an ACTOR, after all). After I saw him in The Net soon after, I realized that even then there was still something there...an aura? I don't know, but I found myself admitting some sort of subsurface similarities between my attraction for Mr. Knightley and my fascination with Jack Devlin. I know what you're thinking...could that similarity be...Jeremy Northam?! Yes and no, because at that point, pragmatist that I am, I wan't even thinking about the real person behind the portrayals. There was just this strange attraction to Jeremy's roles coupled with a nagging sensation in my gut that I was going to have to displace Colin Firth as my favorite actor. I think it was the Fiennes-Binoche Wuthering Heights, along with additional viewings of Emma and The Net (with my eighteen-year-old brother, who laughed through the whole thing), which actually put me over the edge. When Jeremy's portrayal forced me to appreciate even Hindley Earnshaw, it was over. But for each of those three roles, the appreciation is different...I'm completely in love with Mr. Knightley (who isn't? Who never has been?), perversely attracted to Jack, and Hind ey - well, I had a tremendous respect for the performance (imagine that!), and that was the clinker. Since, I've also learned that he has character, which doesn't hurt. He's a classically-trained ACTOR, who's been around onstage for quite awhile, and he hates LA. Those two facts speak volumes to a Californian! And the awkwardness of the Saks ads I found particularly endearing. As Cass often says, "He IS Mr. Knightley!" Well, not exactly, but he will be for somebody, I've no doubt...unle s fame changes him, but that's another story. As most of you already know, I HATE fawning over famous people - esp. actors. It gives me the willies. I know I'm an obsessive personality, and perhaps it's the fear that I'll actually develop a useless devotion when there are so many real people out there to care about. But in this case, I have made an exception for Jeremy. But it's not one of those "Oh-my-God-I-have-to-marry-this-man" crushes, it's more cosmic...he's a guy I can appreciate on so many different levels. Just knowing that people like eremy Northam exist in this world...and in the film industry...is a comfort.

Good idea, Kal. Anatomy of a crush. A good topic for our band, it seems.

Shall we give it it's own topic? ;) Yay! Message 200!

.. (Kali's) My fondness for Jeremy springs mainly from his excellent portrayal of my Mr. Knightley - I have to admit that was the underlining factor - him playing out an endearing Jane Austen hero - and doing it so credibly too. I was 'forced' to watch The Net twice (being on economy seats with their one-movie-channel and to-ing & fro-ing within the same month), I saw Sandra Bullock and couldn't, for the life of me, remember who the villian was, 'cept for that wonderful accent and speaking voice of his. Having now rented The Net twice and willingly, I cannot say that I watched it as I would a thriller (Oh no! don't let the bad guy catch-up feel) - I spent the entire time hoping for him to show up and thought hey! if I had to be illed off, I wouldn't mind being pursued by this person. Either this JN obsession is beyond comprehension or (I suspect this might be it) he didn't come across too villianeous - his bad role was way too unbelievable. Maybe he was too gentle for the role.??!! (you gals still talking to me after this?) I then rushed out and rented "carrington" and spent an agonised 45 mins with Emma T. and decided I would cheat and fast-forward. Then aghast!! looked great steering the sail-boat - what's in the script for him?? and the let down - 2 mins airing time and a movie I couldn't recommend friends. Read up on his life, family, his interviews, looked at his pics and guess what? He's the regular nice guy (melting voice additional) who appears clear-sighted and humourous. Rushed our and watched Emma2 again twice over and suspect "he is Mr Knightley" (Cassendra permiting). That must be the attraction.

Message 201-we are gaining steadily on Mr Firth! Guttersnipe: I think it means a mean-spirited, ill-mannered wench, mind and manners in the gutter. Oddly enough this has become somewhat of a term of affection, bestowed on me by my father. He thinks he's Henry Higgins. We bonded over Mr Fair Lady. Love the variation on the proposal scene. HE has that longing "gaze"!

"Run, Angela, run! - but not too fast!" ;)

Dearest KAli: Let us never be boring! I think this is a great point of conversation-the reasons for our mutual attraction to JN. Like you said-we all come from different backgrounds, but have managed to form an odd sisterhood over one man. And what a MAN! Strangely enough, I did see JN before Emma. Pure coincedence-the movie that I wanted to see was sold out so I ended up seeing the Net. He really jumps out at you on the screen-"star quality". Even then, I recognized his magnetism and talent as an actor(and who am I kidding), and of course his striking dark, good looks. But, it was only when I saw him as Mr KNightley that I really began to take notice of him. Again strangely enough, a few weeks before the movie came out I saw a promo of Emma on television; they were discussing the recent onslaught of Austen adapataions. Anyways-they showed the archery scene and within minutes, I recognized him as that talented, handsome actor from the net. Having not seen him in Carrington or anything else, I was immediately seized by the notion that (1)this looked like a wonderful, charming adaptation of one of my all-time favorite novels and (2) that JN would make a terrific Mr Knightley. He really draws you in. Anyways, when I finally did see the film, I was moved, charmed. I laughed. I cried. I sighed. I went back and saw it again and again and again and again. I don't think I will ever recover from his "whom are you going to dance with". Obviously, my attraction was initially based on his excellent portrayal of Mr Knightley. As I've said-he played Mr KNightley the way that I had always imagined him: vulnerability, chivalry, and strength of mind and character. He is a brilliant actor-I can and have talked volumes about my admiration for his subtle reactions, voice inflections, and expressions. I'd like to liken this "crush" to Roxanne's problem in Cyrano(that's the dramatic Mary in me). LIke Roxanne, I'm blindly attracted to Christian's good looks,(JN) but in love with Cyrano(the soul-Mr KNightley)-but I can't. The more I read about JN-this classically trained, bright, witty, funny, charming actor-the more I admire him. He's definitely not the typical Hollywood actor type: all braun and no brains. I think basically we are all bored romantics and JN is definitely, at least for the moment, the perfect canvass on which to paint our dreams.

Have you seen Firth's drool - it's covered with amazing pictures and even one of JN??.. I was so impressed that I'm going to TRY to post my previous wallpaper that did wonders for my day.. well, if the pic. doesn't appear, we'll still gain by one extra mail here..

oops.. back to tag tutorial..will try again later.

Well here goes.. Am I the last to find out? I came across a mailing address for Mr Northam.. PMK 1775 Broadway, Suite 701 New York, NY 10019

SERENA!!!!! You're a goddess! I could just hug you to pieces! What a gift you've given! Finally, we have an address for him! I'm just afraid of what I should write, so as not make a complete buffoon of myself. Wouldn't want to look too obsessive now, would I?

Winter: Wouldn't want to look too obsessive now, would I? You? Nyah, no chance! ;-)

Down Winter! Down girl!!

I think that perhaps the best way to ingratiate oneself to Mr. Northam - should one actually get a real chance to meet or correspond with him - lies in the appearance of disinterest. Obsessive fans, as necessary as they are to one's subsistance as a famous person, are still a put-off. So, lust in your heart, but DON'T send anything to him. The results will only disappoint you...Cass, care to share your PB fan letter story? ;)

Of course-Kali. And I agree about the "appearance of disinterest" too. Take it from Jimmy Carter-lust in your heart. Before, I bore you with my sad Pierce Brosanan tale, I must state that I have matured quite a bit since then. Smile. Anyways-when I was ten, those younger, more vulnerable years, I formed my first "crush" on PB, or more accurately the character he played on Remington Steele: that nameless, forever mysterious, charming, suave movie buff. I was so smitten by his blues eyes and mysterious past that for the first and only time in my life I wrote a fan letter. SEVERAL months later, I received a photocopied letter of acknowledgment and a an offer to join his fan club: please enclose money. Naturally, I tore it up. That was m first Araby. I tend to agree with Kali. Generally, swooning over movie stars/tv stars/personalitites, and especially autograph seeking/fan letters, is inane. I have always said that I could never date, much less marry an actor. Warning: they make their living(if they are in the lucky 5%) "playing" interesting, fascinating, complicated, witty individuals. In reality, they are not-usually the complete opposite. The problem(if it is a problem) with Jeremy, then, is that he doesn't seem(I too hope fame doesn't go to his head)to fit into this model. We've all said how much we admire JN, not just the Mr Knightley persona. He genuinely appears to be bright, witty, funny, talented(classically-trained-Royal Shakespeare Society), confident, and at ease with himself. Any further comments/suggestions?????

BTW-(since this still is primarily a drool topic)Serena: I love the pic above, that tossled, casual look. OOH BABY!!

I once posted the unimaginable question, is there really life after JN's Knightley?? Cassendra..there might be no cure for this JN infatuation unless someone writes an all-powering letter and gets asks to join the queue and pay-up..and reports it at drool. But until something happens to break his usual charming interviews, reality check is all I have going for me. I'll even settle for an autographed something or other!! God, I must be insane!! Perhaps he's not spotted as much in the celebrity circle yet and so there's NO horrific tale to break his charm .. this brings to mind one of his usual realistic, yet witty interviews where he said that he's not really recognised in public at that time and so could get about fairly easily. On a parting note of another interview where he spoke of a failed-romance after nine years and he ended with "maybe I don't have the Knightley charm.. There is no cure for me at this stage!! I don't want to get over t is yet anyway.. we're having too fun in here.. Move aside David Duchovny!! Phew!!,,never thought I would get over him..

Is there life after JN's Mr KNightley? That is a good question. LIke you I'm having too much fun and JN is just so irresistable and delightful! I think this is the longest "crush" I have ever had-another testament to our JN's magic. As my dearest Kali said: Jeremy is a safe object of obsession, until some real-life Mr KNightley comes along, riding in the rain. I too read that article about his not having Mr Knightley's charm. I'm also certain that line was delivered with one of those bewitching, bewildering KNightely smirks, ie: pianoforte scene. You know, I think I've figured it out; That's it!! The MAN is too damned charming!! Kissenger was wrong. Charm is the greatest aphrodisiac.

Just to continue the "crush" discussion, I'm just interested in why we develop crushes anyways? Does it fill some secret, deeply-hidden longings/desire? Are we just bored? Or are we hungry, perversely attracted by the "unattainable"? Like poor Scarlett, we want the most what we can't have. I'm probably all three! Perhaps a better question, then, is why we, along with so many other women, have fallen so madly in love with one George KNightley. WHat is it about this character? And what is it about JN as MR Knightley that has sent us fluttering and trembling like Mrs Bennet?

...and we dress the object up in a fine suit of clothes of our own creation, even if it doesn't really fit... I think there's a direct correlation between stressful periods in life and crushes...

Defintely Kali! Good old Yeats had it right on the money "we clothe in the colours of our longing..." Hemingway wasn't too far off either. I like the way he ended The Sun also Rises: Lady Brett tells Jake that they could have had such a wonderful time together. And of course, Jake's retort is: "Isn't it pretty to think so?" You know something dearest, I think that in addition to being Emma/Marianne, there's a lot of Gatsby: "he knew that when he kissed this girl and forever wed his unutterable visions to her perishable breath, his mind would never romp again like the mind of God." Hmmm, how about Jeremy as Gatsby????

Kali-You were dead on when you said that the magic of Emma is how this deluded, ,"doomed to blindness", young woman suddenly realizes that the perfect, most charming man is right beside her. And the torture that she might lose him! Only, to have her affection returned in the most complete and romantic way. That's what we all long for and want! I'm not willing to accept, yet, that, it's just an illusion. "So we beat on, boats against the current..." I think we're starting to depress everyone!

Thanks. BTW, I got the "suit of clothes" paraphrase from Scarlett herself, when she goes home to Rhett after Melanie's death and her subsequent epiphany re: Ashley...but I must admit, it applies to many of our situations. Jeremy as Gatsby? Could work. I see myself more as Gatsby...building myself up to be worthy of somebody who can never appreciate me. But that's WAY in the past now...best not to think about it anymore.

Re: Roxanne...that woman must be an allusion to Penelope...waiting at the convent, embroidering, even, for Pete's sake...waiting...and then Cyrano comes back...Maybe I just have The Odyssey on the brain, Cass...;) Hey, speaking of Homeric heroes, what say you all to Jeremy as the Trojan Prince Hector...? What a guy.

Best not to think about it anymore:I've tried to put Gatsby behind me too and it never works. I used to believe too that the rock of the world was founded securely on a fairy's wing, but life changes you/hardens you. For which, I am eternally thankful-you need to be tough to survive. I don't think I would recognize the girl I was five years ago, nor would I desire to. However like Nick, that heightened sensitivity to the promises of life always move me:re-creating himself in his own image, from Jimmy Gatz to Jay Gatsby stretching his arms out to the green light on Daisy's dock. I think all of my favorite characters are essentially deluded: Gatsby, Scarlett, Emma.... As for Roxanne-I tend to feel the way some people feel about Fanny Price: superficial, silly witch: The voice in the dark, that was you... Cyrano deserved better. He was deluded too. You know Jeremy might make a wonderful Cyrano-he has that VOICE! I think I'm in love with Cyrano, Rhett Butler, Mr Knightely and Mr Darcy. But, that's another story and it's scary how much in common they have.

REg. Jeremy as Prince Hector....My knowledge of the Iliad and the Odyssey is pretty pathetic. I pain over it during my quiter hours. They're fighting over Helen of Troy, right??? I'm certain, though, he would be wonderful-the costumes most becoming to that gorgeous physique! HEy KAli-tell us about Fatal Inversion?

Thanks, Cassandra. Why do we like them deluded?

Yes.. Kali, put your schoolwork/ thesis aside.. it'll still be there later. FATAL INVERSION FATAL INVERSION FATAL INVERSION!!!! be descriptive ..please.. pretty pictures too!!

Cassandra, I've been trying to e-mail you with no success. Please e-mail me and tell me how --- I want to apologize!

Susan Darling-apologize for what???? You know I adore you! Good Question Amy! I think I'll wait first for Kali's reply before I try to answer that one. There's something terribly romantic about deluded heroes/heroines and stories of unrequited love. Call me Marianne. Emma was one of the lucky ones. That's why we love it so. It has the perfect ending with the perfect match.

Fatal Inversion - sex and full-frontal nudity. 'Nuff said. Deluded heroes/heroines...Hell, I don't know...it's the question of the ages. There's something bewitching in the thought that you can achieve and attain exactly what you desire, I think. We like to see people like Gatsby create life - play God - become master of their own lives. There's also the fact that we're all deluded to a certain extent, and we appreciate seeing it in others we admire...no one sees the truth with perfect clarity...if we did, life would be boring...we'd sit around like Q's, knowi g all the answers, knowing all the questions. life, love, pursuit of happiness - the romantic and democratic ideals - would mean nothing. I think the definition of humanity is our imperfect vision, our imperfect knowledge...Even the most remarkable beings...perhaps ESPECIALLY the most remarkable beings...are defined by their endless red-herring chase in pursuit of perfection. It's late. I gotta go to bed.

There's a wonderful short story, my all-time favorite, by James Joyce("Araby") that articulates, better than I ever could, the deluded/romantic hero and his eventual disullisionment. The hero is a male equivalent of Marianne Dashwood. He lives in this dark, book-filled house and is obsessed by two things: the town fair or araby and his best friend's sister. Like the fair, he imposes his own romantic, idealistic dreams on the "girl": "My body was like a harp and her every word and gesture were like fingers playing along the strings." Anyways, he does get to go the fair and it is a complete sham-noisy, insidious...Plus, he sees his beloved there and she's far from the good catholic girl he placed on the pedestal. End of story. Joyce must be rolling over in his grave. As my father says, I have had plenty of Araby's, although I'm not sure this completely fits the Jeremy situation. Any thoughts???

"SEx and full-frontal nudity..." I can almost hear the mad dash to the video store. How did Kathleen get her copy?

Cassandra: How did Kathleen get her copy? I purchased it from a catalogue. I was trying to find it in my current video catalogues, but the best I can see is Fatal Inversion as part of a 3-video set: BBC Mysteries (Ruth Rendell/Barbara Vine mysteries), for $59.95. I remember paying about $15 for just FI. (The order number is A4644 in Public TV Videofinders Collection: telephone 1-800-799-1199, btw.) And, Kali, is that all you have to say? No other comments on his own delicious looking self? :p

I have had plenty of Araby's, although I'm not sure this completely fits the Jeremy situation. Okay, 'splain! As far as the Jeremy obsession many of us have, I think it does...we get obsessive about people, famous or otherwise, because we think they're PERFECT...we think they're better than what we are or what we have, or because they will take us someplace better than where we're at. We're bored, confused, stressed, or upset, and they're an escape...a pleasant alternative to the maddening coldness of reality. But what are they, really? Illusions. They're not perfect...they're not what we made them out to be. We dress them in the suit of pretty clothes whether it fits them or not. And then when we finally look at them straight on, we see how silly they look in those stupid outfits we squeezed them into, and realize that they aren't any better than we are. Call me faithless, but I'm just waiting for the man to prove himself to be a jerk...

Kathleen dear-THANK-YOU for the information! I can't wait to see FI! And KAl-this is starting to feel like confession! Well, what I meant was that being the Marianne Dashwood/Emma/Gatsby girl that I am, I tend to build things/people/events up in my mind, so that they could never hope to meet my expectations. I'm forever disapointed. A sub-Araby would be my PB tale, and on a bigger note, I once admired this famous Canadian poilitician: she was a first in everything. But, when I finally met her, she was far from charming! As for the Jeremy situation, I think the story does apply. I think I am like you-waiting for him to slip up and tarnish the Knightley armour. Isn't that perverse/an eternal contradiction? I think he's wonderful and charming, but I expect him to disapoint me. One problem: at least for the moment, the more I read about him, the more enamoured I become. HIs wit, in particular, impress me. That's in short supply today! Usually, distance is savoury. The closer you get, the more imperfections you see(the suit o clothes doesn't fit) and the illusion is lost! Or, on second thought-you just get bored. Maybe we're over-intellectualizing. Like you said-the MAN is gorgeous!

Anyone know what Jeremy's next project is??

Anyone know what Jeremy's next project is?? You mean, after MIMIC? I really don't know. I'm still hoping that they finally release VOICES FROM A LOCKED ROOM, which got good reviews at Sundance last year, but has never been released (and also features full frontal nudity). BTW, I got FATAL INVERSION for about $25 from CD World - http://www.cdworld.com/

it's winter's time to drool! got the copy of "fatal inversion" from kali (who got it from kathleen), and i'm just about to settle down in front of the TV with a nice big bowl of capn' crunchberries and the remote control within easy reach for those pauses and rewinds one usually needs in order to witness Jeremy in his full glory. this has been one GREAT week, everyone: Monday I got my copy of "the making of P&P" in the mail, Wednesday I got my copy of "Darcy's story" (thanks to Maud for selling me her extra copy) and TODAY, I get this wonderful package in the mail from Kali... from the happy mood i've been in all week, no one would be able to tell that I'm also in the midst of preparing to submit my MA thesis propsal! as linda richman would say, "You're like buddah..." I'm swimmin' in Land 'O Lakes!! (my Fatal inversion review to come soon)

Winter, do you by any chance go to USC? --- As far as illusions, yes...I've been disappointed enough times to be wary. But you're right - we are overintellectualizing...for why should we CARE? Oh well...I guess I'm not so jaded that I've lost my sense of hope...I do wish that life will bring me happy surprises after all...whether or not one of them happens to be Jeremy! ;)

hello all! my fatal inversion 'review' will probably be posted this afternoon... i've got a couple of errands to run, including mailing the tape off back to kathleen. kali: i did my undergrad at usc, and now i'm at ucla, just across town. do you know anyone at usc? yes, yes, i realize the two campuses are sworn enemies (just like cal and stanford rivalary), but it doesn't mean too much, especially when you're not into football at all! BTW, i noticed (from the pkg) you are in berkeley. i grew up not very far from there-- richmond to be exact. 'i think it the dearest place in the world!' (but, most people wouldn't!).

WE are all breathlessly awaiting your review-Winter. No one is better equipped to write it than you. And Kali-I never want to become jaded. Wary and skeptical-Yes. But, people who fall back on cynicism-are doing just that. It's a cop-out for not living, following their dreams. I don't think I see la vie en rose, nor would I want to(that's dangerous). But, I understand what you mean about "happy surprises." I doon't ever want to lose hope or give up. I'm kind of glad I haven't reached my "peak" yet, like a certain Tom Buchanan: everything else is anti-climatic. Its been my experience that even at low poin s, something, sometime always happens-counterbalance effect. You really have to know yourself and hang in. And Hell-keep believing in and reaching out for the green light. The alternative, after all, is pretty dismal and BORING!!!

"Fatal Inversion" (1992, BBC) Adam Verne-Smith has just inherited a fairly large estate from his great-uncle, who has died. At the age of 19, Adam is hardly ready, or even responsible enough to keep "Wyvis Hall," and so decides to put it up on them market promptly, and keep the profits. It�s the summer of �79, he�s on holiday from Cambridge, and plans to go to Greece before the school term begins again. �Enter Rufus (Jeremy Northam�sigh). Best-friend, pre-med student(aspiring OB-GYN) and ultimate baddie (!). If you thought YOU had it rough with junior high school, peer-pressuring friends, Rufus is by far, the worst. He drinks and smokes like there�s no tomorrow, wears sunglasses both indoors and outdoors and looks devastatingly beautiful in all scenes, and is just one of those guys who heartlessly picks up women and sleeps with them, cares for no one but himself, takes every chance he can get to be cheek , and most of all, unconsciously makes you fall in love with him. I won�t give you the details, but this is basically a mystery, with scenes cutting between the summer of �79 and 12 years later. Present day, something�s been dug up in the backyard of Wyvis Hall, and that something traces back to that carefree summer, when Adam and Rufus have the time of their lives in the English country with some other guests, rather than go off to Greece as previously planned. It�s drool time: JN is HOT in every scene: by look, mannerisms, dialogue and overall presence. Though I wouldn�t say he�s the main character, he still get more than ample time for you to drool. As a 19-20 year old, he plays it off very well. Cheeky and obnoxious are the two words that come to mind when I first got to know his character. But don�t worry, he grows on you. Maybe the way Harrison Ford seems sexy when he plays the same sort of a**hole renegade in �Star Wars.� You�ll love their "frolicks" through the countryside--- two scenes come to mind: 1) Adam and Rufus go hunting wearing nothing but their briefs, socks and a rifle slung over their shoulder! 2) The swim! Absolutely, 100% butt-nekkid! Frontal nudity and all. (and I must say, JN was NOT a disappointment in the least!) We flash back to present day, where Rufus is a practicing OB-GYN in London. He�s still single, but I�d say a bit more polished around the previous "rough edges". He LOOKS great in suits,broad-shouldered, slicked-back hair, confident and if you watch it, look for the scene where he wears a pin-stripe suit with the trenchcoat on top. He�d make a really great detective! I don�t usually catch mysteries on TV, but this is a good one. I�d recommend it, even if you just want to see JN, the plot will keep you involved. Jeremy�s best line (IMHO): "and there I was preserving the idea that I might be charmingly unpredicatble." (Rufus� response when a girlfriend tell him he�s too private; his personality is too �pre-programmed.�)

Yes, I go to Berkeley. Richmond? Ooch. Sorry. Oh, and you should know that even non-athletic-booster-types are into rivalries. And since you are a SUCKLA student, I'm obligated to tell you to "get your own fight song (proper key, please), get your own colors, and get your own bear!!!" --- Winter, we could use this kind of depth in our Austen adaptation review topics. Why is it always sex that excites?

because sex is so primal... so natural, and such an immediately gratifying stimulus in such an impersonal, fast-paced, "everyone for themselves world.' which probably leads me to MY contribution to that "why have such a crush on jeremy northam" thread: i think i find him appealing because he immediately gives you the impression that if he cared for you, he'd care in such a way that you know he'd be honest and sincere about it. Even in the net, when he walks down the beach with angela, and wraps the hanky 'round her waist, you see that look in his eyes that just say, " i'm not supposed to care for you, but i hopelessly and helplessly am." now i'm trying o be cautious with this next statement, and please, remember this is IMHO, but: I don't get that impression from Colin Firth at all. It may have to do with that string of women he has met over the years on various sets. As for JN, well, after going out with someone for nine years, that's some real commitment going on.

"primal and natural-immediately gratifying": you have a keen/perceptive insight-Winter. An appropriate and thought-provoking list of adjectives. reg the scarf around the waist touch in the Net: JN looked, at least to me, as if he were going to strangle Angela. But, maybe that's the Rebecca/Xenia in me-Kali!

Winter, I guess you got in without my having to wipe out a second layer of your login names? Tell how you did it? Do you suspect it was your browser saving old passwords?

well, i logged in the same way i always have. and as usual, i've had to get into "forgotten" to access the CF and JN drools. i've had to download ALL the messages from both JN and CF, which means having to sit for a few minutes till i get to the latest. how can i access just the newest messages for these guys? the "acitivty since this week" and the "new' options in forgotten won't let me o that. downloading JN messages aren't so bad riht now, it takes about 2 minutes, but the CF ones are driving me crazy! in other words, I still need help!

Amy, I am still having to sign in again under a different name to get CF and JN myself. I can't even use Forgotten. If you figure out a way to help Winter that might work for me, I'd be eternally grateful.

I don't know if this will work for you, but I had this same problem with some other topic last week. I was able to access the topic using the Fogotten option, then I reset the "Remember" button at the top of the topic. In order to "save" it with the other topics, I changed the "forgotten" in the URL location line (under the back, home, reload, etc. buttons on my screen) to "all" and got back to the all location with the topic back in place. Hope this might help.

it worked!!! it really worked!!! thanks kathleen! after a minute of figuring out exactly which buttons were located where, i managed to get CF and JN back in the original list again. i'm just crossing my fingers and hoping that it will stick for good.

winter: t worked!!! it really worked!!! Hooray! I couldn't believe I had actually figured something out, so I'm glad to be of service. :-) (I just re-read my explanation, and I have no idea how you figured out what I meant . . . clarity needs improvement!)

I love this...what other medium could offer you technical indifference and unbridled lust all in the same thread? ;)

Winter, your narration just sold Fatal Inversion to me. Now I cannot get this off my mind. Oooh.. and I cringe at the thought of JN as my personal ob-gyne. The heart beat quickens and the mind thinks up excuses for visits. But in reality, I'll probably bail-out in the consultation room.