Colin Firth (Part 3)

Hello everyone, I am an old (pre-Pemberley) citizen of Drool who looks in now and then to see how things are going. I read Winter's tale of going to the L.A. screening of SIL and meeting Colin and then being shattered to discover that her photos didn't come out. Perhaps I can help. Two friends and I went to the premiere of SIL last week in New York, and were also lucky enough to meet Colin, however briefly. He signed autographs ("Love, Colin Firth x")very sweetly and posed for a picture with one of my friends. Fortunately, our photos did come out, and can be seen at: http://members.tripod.com/~i_love_movies/sil/silpremx.html (Note--I have the webmistress's permission to post this link.) So, go to it!

I don't know about everyone else but I'm loving those pictures! Real close-ups of Colin! Wow!!!!

Thank-you very, very much, Anne! Finally we get a good glimpse of him (and without straw-coloured hair. I�m relieved...) Could you please tell us a bit more about your meeting with him? Did you ask him something and what did he say? What was your general impression of him?

Thanks so much Anne, you've made my day!!!! He looks pretty good for pasty, don't you think. Winter talked of his face lighting up etc Any info on his expressions or gestures? Were you also impressed by Livia?

Great pictures, Anne. Thanks for returning and sharing them with everyone here. Saw The View this morning. It had Gwyneth Paltrow in a segment by herself and no discussion of the movie, although it was preceded by a long clip with a few shots of Colin that we've all seen before. Then they brought out the *rest* of the cast...unfortunately, that did not mean Colin... It meant: Geoffrey Rush, Judi Dench and Joseph Fiennes. The ladies started with Geoffrey Rush, moved on to Judi Dench for a question or two, then landed on Joseph Fiennes. Now I can see why he isn't on any othe shows. He cannot speak or string together more than one or two words. Then you could barely hear him. I can't imagine that he didn't have a microphone, but he was barely audible. Something about wearing tights being liberating, like at the beach.... He came across as a "no personality type" more so than a shy, introverted type.

I saw The View this morning also and got real excited when I thought that they might have Colin on there, but my excitement soon faded. There were quite a few long shots of Colin from the movie and I was surprised that no one said anything about him and that the show hosts didn't ask, especially since he was in 2 out of the 3 scenes that they showed. I think that they would have been much better off to have Colin on the show instead of JF, but he is the "star"!

Thank you, Anne, for your lovely gesture. One very much appreciated. Saw The View too. Now I know why I've never watched it before. This chatty girl-talk worked fine with Gwynie but they could only think of one question each for the guys. JF looked uncomfortable, GR looked bemused. JD was great and GP is getting very good. I have to applaud all the work she's doing for this film. At least the clips predominantly featured Colin.

Forgive me Winter. I referred to you earlier without your bestowed title, gained in the pursuit of bringing pleasure to hundreds( that's the lurkers as well). Sorry Dame!!

Every time I convince myself that it is Darcy I am in love with, a new photo of CF is posted and I fall in love all over again. These photos are splendid. What a Holiday Gift you have given us. Do not quite see the "straw-colored" hair, but that he is gorgeous, there is *no* doubt! Thank you, Anne and the rest.

Nan has been busy Snappying everything Colin that's been on TV. These are from the E! interview, which Winter taped.

....and more....

Hmmmm, those are different shots, but let's see:

Now, if we could only have the Voice!!

More Friendly FoF share their finds: An interview with HIM! Have you been there already? http://www.filmscouts.com/scripts/clips.cfm?Film=sha-lov And filmclips: http://www.nytimes.com/library/arts/shakespeare-in-love-film.1.ram.html It takes some time to load as Realplayer always does.

Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking with the straw colored hair thing... but it was a lot lighter than how I see it in the pictures. But maybe that was because we were standing underneath these huge bright lights, I don't know. Hey-- when is Ben getting back from England?

Thank you ladies for such a great group effort. *sigh*

People magazine this week referred to CF's performance in SIL and "stuffily amusing"....well..... it beats any remarks about being a cuckold. Thanks to Anne R. and FOF for the pics.

That *really* irritates me. People is published by Time-Warner, and Time Magazine did not even mention his name!!! (I subscribe to Time, but not to People.)

*Sigh on the pictures** Oh, he is too cute. Is so hard to forget he is very married. Rita

Lisa's Timeline of CF has a detailed transcript of his interview in the News section...he's still fond of "mmmmmmm"! I like his explanation as to why men of that period wore earrings....at a time of natical expansion, when most noblemen would actually so to sea, it seems a wise precaution!

Oops! One finger typing lets me down....."nautical" and "go"!

Rather than individually post the Snappies, Nan has created some lovely pages with the best of the best: E! Interview The View Clips Rosie Show Clips Hopefully, these will work! Thank you, Nan. :-)

Next week's Time Magazine has the "Best of 1998." Full list: 1. Saving Private Ryan 2. Decalogue 3. Shakespeare in Love 4. Happiness 5. The Butcher Boy 6. The Thin Red Line 7. Bulworth 8. The Opposite of Sex 9. Without Limits 10. Live Flesh

It was very gratifying to have Siskel and Ebert praising this movie. They even mentioned Colin's name and not BA's. I did wish they had preceded his name with the words fine British actor. Well, I can't have everything. At least they didn't mention Colin Friel and his wife Olivia. :-)) I love all the pictures that have been posted.

Well Ladies, our DB was on T.V this morning. GMTV (OK OK I am desperate) showed their Hollywood report with mostly Wessex clips. This was to have been followed by a GP interview but they ran out of time!!! Apparently it's a "surefire winner" for the Golden Globe noms. Are they out at the end of the week?

BTW I was so excited about SIL on Brit tv that I should have begun by thanking FOF for the truly delicious snappies. I shall devour them slowly.

I believe the Golden Globes are being announced this Thursday.

Great Karen. Please keep us posted.

This got in topic 97 before I froze it. Topic 97 of 116 [drool]: Colin Firth - PART II Response 1196 of 1196: Lucie (alyeska) * Tue, Dec 15, 1998 (18:14) * 3 lines Winter, it sounds like you had a great time. Thank you for the colorful account. It sounds like your experience was like every interviewer I've read. They all say how nice he is. I wish I could find the one that said she was so surprised to find an actor who wasn't concieted at all but very down to earth and a great sense of humor, with the ability to laugh at himself. Lucie

Thanks, Lucie. I had a lot of fun, and as I've said before, you were all there with me in spirit that night. Wow! I just realized it was exactly a week ago! Yes, Colin seemed very down to earth. His smile does it a lot...

Lisa's Timeline of CF has a detailed transcript of his interview in the News section. I'm looking all over the place and can't find it! Can someone give me the exact URL? Thanks!

Thanks Winter... Re: Lisa's Timeline ....I can't find it either. Which reminds me ...if anyone finds something new on one of the CF websites, would you pl. post it and the URL.Some of us don't have the time to hit all his websites v. often. Just think....last year at this time...we were all in the doldroms over ATA and what a lousy movie it was...hey, of the top 100 movies in '97 ATA was 94. Here we are in '98...looking for SIL as a Golden Globe nominee and TIME listing it as #3 movie of the year. Well done, Colin.

Here we are in '98...looking for SIL as a Golden Globe nominee Can SIL really be in the running for a Golden Globe? I saw in Variety that nominations had to be in by the 1st December, I think. Surely that would rule out SIL?

Thanks a million for all the info & beautiful pics that some of you (Winter, Anne, Karen) have provided us with. The pictures really make me weak at the knees, he�s so....you know. Beyond words. I hate it that I can�t give you anything in return because I live here close to the Arctic circle, far from the Firthlized world (!!). The Finnish press is not the least bit interested in Colin and as far as I know, SIL has been mentioned here only once this week in a tabloid. It was mainly about ms. Paltrow�s mammary glands. Aargh! (Rita)Oh, he is too cute. Is so hard to forget he is very married. Exactly, Rita. OK, jealousy is a forbidden feeling in civilized circles but how can I deny it? It�s such a paradox because one naturally wishes Colin ALL the best in life and his marriage is surely one of the best things in life for him. The premieres with Livia everywhere just made it so very very visible. Aargh again....:-)

I love it when this board is jam full of posts, so much excitment and anticipation. Thank you all for sharing. Finally, it takes a woman to notice. From NY Times Sarah Lyall's SIL review: ...the hunky Colin Firth as Viola's unpleasant fianc�, the Earl of Wessex... For those of you in the DC, MD, Nothern VA area: There's going to be a special preview of SIL at the United Artists Bethesda Cinemas to benefit the Shakespeare Theatre. Monday 12-21, call 202-547-1122 for more info.

(Allison) Can SIL really be in the running for a Golden Globe? I saw in Variety that nominations had to be in by the 1st December, I think. Surely that would rule out SIL? Sure can!! The critics saw the movies at previews, etc. Thin Red Line hasn't even opened anywhere is on Time's best list. I know some people put great stock in the Golden Globes, but I think they are closer to a popularity contest than anything. Sort of like a "People's Choice" award from the Hollywood Foreign Press. The Oscars have their own politics too. I tend to look to the Directors' Guild for Best Picture/Director clues, not the Golden Globes. Remember, the critics in LA, NY or Timbuktu don't vote for the Oscars. (Emma) Finally, it takes a woman to notice. I thought the exact same thing!! The reviews by women have mentioned his status as "British heartthrob" or "Mr. Darcy in P&P." We don't forget so easily and little padding and little sneering and subservience won't do it.

Now, here's a Keepsake that belongs to Winter!

Here's the link for the Timeline: Lisbeth's Timeline

Great Karen, many many swoonable thanks. Anyone want to analyse the DB's handwriting? I think his flourishes signify a passionate, private man with a great sense of humour and exceptional thighs.

My dear, I think it just shows a person in a hurry... Is there really an F for Firth?

Well his exceptional thighs are ideal for hurrying etc!!!

Lizza: I think his flourishes signify a passionate, private man with a great sense of humour and exceptional thighs. Gi: My dear, I think it just shows a person in a hurry... Lizza: Well his exceptional thighs are ideal for hurrying etc!!! Y'all have me ROTFLMAO!!!!!! Too funny! Thanks for the best laugh I've had all day. Boy, I'd love to see those thighs up close and personal... BTW, AnneR, THanks so much for sharing those pictures! What a sight to behold! And thanks Karen for posting the photo and the URL to Lisa's Timeline. I like the frequent "mmmms" peppered throuought the interview.... As long as they don't resemble Mr. Collins' 'Mmmms" :-)

I'd love to see those thighs up close and personal... There is an interesting glimpse or two in Fever Pitch... no doubt, Nan will be snappying in due course.

To be in such good company! Do you believe how exited we get at just looking at his signature? It is true that it has either changed or he was in a hurry, nevertheless, we are v. proud of you Dame Winter. I can't wait to meet you in LA this Feb. and shake the hand that touched the man himself! Thanks to Nan and Karen who are such sweethearts to snap and post. We do appreciate all your efforts.

There is an interesting glimpse or two in Fever Pitch... If so, I can't wait to see those thighs on the big screen! Whoa baby! Thanks to Nan and Karen who are such sweethearts to snap and post. We do appreciate all your efforts. I second that! Nan and Karen rock!

I third the motion Nan and Karen do Rock!!! This site is exactly what you need on any given day. Winter; I certainly would be glowing after looking at that signature every day. I am in awe of you. You lucky girl.

This is my first posting! I have found this discussion very informative. Unfortunately, I don't have any new info to add. I have enjoyed the past few weeks of seeing Colin's face on my TV screen. I caught Gwyneth on the Rosie show also and thought she was quite complimentary of Colin. Of course, we all agree with her assessment! Up until then, I had been disappointed that he wasn't getting mentioned even though all the clips predominantly featured him. Since the SIL openings, things seem to have died down ..I guess until Christmas and the film's nationwide release. Can't wait! There is a *GREAT* picture from the LA premiere at www.colinfirth.com (Murph's corner). Enjoy!

Hi Eileen....Welcome to the Spring Community. It's good to get your sentiments and comments . One doesn't have to report any news to post....Be sure to stick around and lets hear from you often:-) I think that next week the TV stations will start airing the advertisements for SIL in preparation for the Christmas Day blitz. Cheryle: We miss you. Is your wrist recovering?

I'VE SEEN IT!!! Last night, I was minding my own business, walking out of "Waking Ned Devine," when I heard three little words...Shakespeare in Love. I whip my head around and see three people standing near the entrance to the theater where "Elizabeth" was playing and they are holding pamphlets of some sort. I eye them for a while, wondering what is going on, watching if people have tickets of some sort, and then walk downstairs to the concession area to mull things over. I debate with myself for a couple of minutes a d then, what the hell, I go back up the stairs and walk right in. The theater is pretty crowded (it was one of the smaller of the complex) and seats are being held all over the place. I find a seat, making someone remove their coat in the process, and wait, not daring to ask anyone anything for fear I will be thrown out. All the while I'm thinking that if it is Elizabeth showing, I will have to crawl over all these people to leave, since I've seen the movie already. Lights dim. Screen illuminated. Big M....Miramax flashes...(Yes, I silently mouth to myself). Then Universal (Eureka!! I've hit paydirt!!). London 1593... It was a private screening of some sort. People had little questionnaires to fill out from Miramax on whether they liked the movie and some demographic information. It was great. So as not to spoil anything for anybody, more detail will be provided on the other topic...but suffice to say I want to see it again!

I told you Karen, you will see this movie about a hundred times, then you will buy it when it is out on video, and we'll probably bury you with it;) Hey, Lucky you!!!! Can we still see it when I'm in Chicago????

For Bethan and Allison: At the very beginning, Geoffrey Rush (Henslow) and Tom Wilkenson (Fennyman) do a great bit about movie/theater accounting. (Laura) Can we still see it when I'm in Chicago???? Only if I can put duct tape across your mouth!! hee hee

V. happy for you Karen. I got tix to a private showing on Monday but I'm leaving Saturday for CO. Ca va sans dire, I was most upset (the reason for my drinking a whole bottle of champagne), I couldn't bring myself to write it on the e-mail I sent you last night. I will now have to wait for my return to see it. C'est la vie! Wishing all of you lovely ladies very Happy Holidays, I will be back to celebrate the new year together. Still waiting for Colin's answers: fingers crossed.

From E! Online News: Thursday December 17 12:11 PM ET "Shakespeare," "Truman" Span the Globes One World War II drama got stripes; the other got stripped. But in the end, it was Jim Carrey and Will Shakespeare who carried the day. Life-as-a-TV-show dramedy The Truman Show, starring a surprisingly ungoofy Carrey, and meet-cute-costume-comedy Shakespeare in Love, featuring a surprisingly loopy Bard character, earned a field-best six nominations today for the 56th Annual Golden Globe Awards. Steven Spielberg's Saving Private Ryan--the most likely of Oscar frontrunners--managed five nods, including ones for best drama film, best director (for Spielberg) and best actor (Tom Hanks). The upcoming The Thin Red Line, the other gritty battlefield flick praised by critics, was ignored--nothing for acclaimed director Terrence Malick, nothing for its all-star ensemble cast (led by Sean Penn). The other top multiple nominees (with three each): Warren Beatty's gangsta-rapping political comedy, Bulworth; the Queen Elizabeth flick Elizabeth; Gods and Monsters, the art-house drama about 1930s horror director James Whale; and, the British comedy, Little Voice. A-list stars celebrated by the Globe's Hollywood Foreign Press Association included: Cameron Diaz, nominated for pretending not to notice what was in her hair in There's Something About Mary; Gywneth Paltrow, nominated for pretending to be British (again) in Shakespeare in Love; and Sharon Stone, nominated for being Sharon Stone (and, oh yeah, being in The Mighty, too). Diaz is arguably the front-runner in her category. Wednesday, she was named best actress by the New York Film Critics Circle. After The Thin Red Line, the other notable snub was Pleasantville. The life-inside-a-sitcom fantasy might have picked up its share of critics awards, but got zippo today. Also shunned: Italian star Roberto Benigni's much-hyped holocaust fable Life Is Beautiful. Technically, Oprah Winfrey's equally hyped slavery epic Beloved was denied glory, too, but that box-office bomb detonated months ago--so what's one more snub? The awards will be presented January 24 in a NBC telecast. Here's a rundown of today's major nominations: Best drama: Elizabeth Gods and Monsters The Horse Whisperer Saving Private Ryan The Truman Show Best comedy/musical: Bulworth The Mask of Zorro Patch Adams Shakespeare in Love Still Crazy There's Something About Mary Best actress--drama: Cate Blanchett (Elizabeth) Fernanda Montenegro (Central Station) Susan Sarandon (Stepmom) Meryl Streep (One True Thing) Emily Watson (Hilary & Jackie) Best actress--comedy: Cameron Diaz (There's Something About Mary) Jane Horrocks (Little Voice) Gwyneth Paltrow (Shakespeare in Love) Christina Ricci (The Opposite of Sex) Meg Ryan (You've Got Mail) Best actor--drama: Jim Carrey (The Truman Show) Stephen Fry (Wilde) Tom Hanks (Saving Private Ryan) Ian McKellen (Gods and Monsters) Nick Nolte (Affliction) Best actor--comedy: Antonio Banderas (The Mask of Zorro) Warren Beatty (Bulworth) Michael Caine (Little Voice) John Travolta (Primary Colors) Robin Williams (Patch Adams) Best supporting actress: Kathy Bates (Primary Colors) Brenda Blethyn (Little Voice) Judi Dench (Shakespeare in Love) Lynn Redgrave (Gods and Monsters) Sharon Stone (The Mighty) Best supporting actor: Robert Duvall (A Civil Action) Ed Harris (The Truman Show) Bill Murray (Rushmore) Geoffrey Rush (Shakespeare in Love) Donald Sutherland (Without Limits) Billy Bob Thornton (A Simple Plan) Best director: Shekhar Kapur (Elizabeth) John Madden (Shakespeare in Love) Robert Redford (The Horse Whisperer) Steven Spielberg (Saving Private Ryan) Peter Weir (The Truman Show) Best screenplay: Bulworth The Truman Show Shakespeare in Love Saving Private Ryan Happiness Best foreign language film: The Celebration (Denmark) Central Station (Brazil) Men With Guns (USA) The Polish Bride (The Netherlands) Tango (Argentina) (I've left out the television nominations.) BTW, I had a feeling that they would go for Geoffrey Rush.

Thanks for the welcome, Evelyn! So, Karen, did you grab a fistful of those questionnaires and "stuff the ballot box" with positive comments? Although with this film, that probably wasn't necessary! Does Colin have alot of screen time? It seems so from the clips and commercials.

Missed the most recent entry while posting my last. Yippee! SIL is up for a Golden Globe! There's been much award buzz about the film for months now. Glad to see it's coming true. I hope bizillions of people see it and notice Colin. Frankly, I think that's why Miramax delayed MLSF's release.

(Laura) Can we still see it when I'm in Chicago???? Only if I can put duct tape across your mouth!! hee hee ] Not me, Rebecca will be with us! hahahaha. Hey is it safe for my 8 yo daughter?????

Just think....last year at this time...we were all in the doldroms over ATA and what a lousy movie it was.. (Evelyn) I know I'm a year behind (and there's all this buzz about SIL!), but having "sort of" watched ATA (didn't have time to watch it "properly" all the way through...will rent again), I honestly didn't think it was too bad. I genuinely liked the opening shots, the crisp cinematography and the voiceovers. I thought it was a worthy but flawed effort, with good performances, especially Jessica Lange (who was nominated for a Golden Globe). The male parts were all underwritten, and if compared with the novel, it w s disappointing....but if it was shown on terrestial TV on Sunday evening, I'd quite happily watch it! Nothing to be ashamed of! Is so hard to forget he is very married (Elena) I rather like the fact that he is very married! Actually, he's very, very married!! I attended a Catholic wedding last week, and I was very much struck by the seriousness (and beauty) of the marriage vows, and by the Catholic understanding of marriage...that when properly entered into, it is a holy sacrament dissolved only by the death of one of the parties. Anyone want to analyse the DB's handwriting? (Lizza) Too illegible! Looks like squiggle, squiggle to me! I hope bizillions of people see it and notice Colin. Frankly, I think that's why Miramax delayed MLSF's release. (Eileen) I hope so too, Eileen! I'm pleased that SIL seems to be a winner, and hopefully Miramax will also promote MLSF. There seems to be so much LUCK in determining how an actor's career progresses. CF had leading roles in "Appartment zero", "A month in the country", "Valmont" and "The Advocate", (all good, all different) and yet remained almost unnoticed. Time for a change!

Welcome, Eileen. Looks like you're in the swing of things here already. Like you, I'll be waiting for Christmas to see this (actually the day after). No sneak screenings in my town but I'm very happy for Karen. What terrific luck. Too late to play the lottery that day? (Bethan) t having "sort of" watched ATA (didn't have time to watch it "properly" all the way through... One can only imagine what you did watch "properly" in this movie. Was it the doorway leaning scene? the jogging scene? the bed of the truck scene? We did you a favor, Bethan, by panning this movie so severely. You could not have been disappointed. Is so hard to forget he is very married (Elena) I rather like the fact that he is very married! (Bethan) That's 'cause you're married, Bethan. We single girls once had hope. ;-) ;-) (That's a double wink so you know I'm not really serious. I think he's found the perfect wife.) That shot of Colin's autograph turned out fantastic. So what if no one else knows what it says but us!

Hate to dredge up an old question last mentioned in #97, but I am holding in my hot little hand a reply to sent mail. I sent Colin a birthday card with a short written note (complaining that as an artist, I was trying to get a likeness, but have found he doesn't HAVE a likeness!) plus a photo of my latest effort. Sent from Paddington London on 24 November (r'cd on 30 Nov.) was a small typewritten note. QUOTE: "Dear Karen, Thank you for your birthday card, your kind words and the photograph - I do appreciate them. Here is a recent likeness. Kindest regard, " Followed by first-name signature (matches one shown as sample. And accompanied by the most gorgeous portrait photo of him I have ever seen. I am willing to send a copy of it to anyone who has a scanner, given an address to use. YES, HE REPLIES TO ?SOME?) mail!

(KJArt)Hate to dredge up an old question last mentioned in #97 Hey, nothing wrong about dredging up old questions. I can�t think of anything about him that I wouldn�t like to talk or think about all over again (and again). I�m shocked, the man does answer to his fanmail? Last week here I was made coldly reconciled to the fact that he generally doesn�t. Should I dig up my steamy love letters from the waste bin after all? Anyway, thanks a lot for telling us about it, I�d love to see the picture. Wonder if he did type that note himself or has the famous assistant been busy again. We�ll never know. (Bethan) Actually, he's very, very married!! I attended a Catholic wedding last week... Oh, you put it so beautifully. You�re so right, but my heart is bleeding. Would he have married ME if I�d met him before he met Livia?? Yes, I�m absolutely positive about it...:-)

Just continuing my response 60... Yes, having lost that chance, what remains is to imagine what it�s really like to be Mrs. Firth from dawn till dusk and so forth. Perhaps continuous irritation for his smoking and some other terrible habits we luckily don�t know about, big rows because he�s so darn clever and very stubborn too I suppose...???? Btw, I wonder what he thinks about the equality between sexes, I don�t remember him commenting on the question. Does Livia wash his socks for example? And I DON�T mean to offend different domestic cultures, truth is if he were mine I�d gladly wash them even though I consider myself a feminist...(ha,ha)

KJArt, I've just bought myself a scanner :-) so if you want to, you can send "The Documents" to me, but I live in Portugal, so you'll maybe find someone closer to you (I don't Know where you live). E-mail me if you will.

KJArt: you can send the picture to me for scanning. You can email me at: rosie45@hotmail.com and I will send you the address. ****************************************************** (Eileen) So, Karen, did you grab a fistful of those questionnaires and "stuff the ballot box" with positive comments? Welcome Eileen. Wish I could have *stuffed* the ballot box. My comments to Miramax though would be: Give Wessex (Colin Firth) more roles, leading roles!! He's not only a hunk underneath all that makeup and unflattering clothing, but a fabulous actor. You're missing the boat!! (Eileen) Does Colin have alot of screen time? It seems so from the clips and commercials. Yes, he does pretty much. He keeps popping up everywhere from beginning to end. And he has lines in all those scenes as well. (Laura) Not me, Rebecca will be with us! hahahaha. Hey is it safe for my 8 yo daughter????? Is it OK for her to see Gwyneth's pippins? (Bethan) There seems to be so much LUCK in determining how an actor's career progresses. CF had leading roles in "Appartment zero", "A month in the country", "Valmont" and "The Advocate", (all good, all different) and yet remained almost unnoticed. Time for a change! Unfortunately, none of those were commercial successes in the US and that can play into it. Ditto "time for a change!" (Heide) One can only imagine what you did watch "properly" in this movie. Was it the doorway leaning scene? the jogging scene? the bed of the truck scene? Those scenes are definitely worth a proper viewing in slo-mo, something I missed not having available for SiL. I want my own copy to watch, rewatch, rewind and slo-mo. So many facial expressions that I need to study. ;-)

Ditto to all of you who think it's time to see Colin in more leading roles. I'm with you, Karen, that's what I would have told Miramax, given the opportunity! They are missing the boat because they're too busy worrying about money (well, it is a business). Colin has to prove himself at American box offices; I would guess given the size of the US moviegoing population that's where the big bucks are. At least SIL has a better shot at improving his recognition vs. ATA. I don't think that his part in that was underwritten, it likely landed on the cutting room floor as the film was edited into "the Jessica and Michelle show" (did you notice it was released on video the day after the Oscars last March? I bet there was great disappointment that neither actress was even nominated). Looking forward to seeing KJArt's Colin pic on-line! Thanks in advance for sharing :-)

Thanks for the offer, Gi, but I will probably send to KarenR so everyone can see the goodies sooner. And to explain that I have been lurking around drool, off and on, since late summer, and felt bad that I didn,t have anything to share...this is for all you've given ME.

(KJArt) I am holding in my hot little hand a reply... I sent Colin... a photo of my latest effort... QUOTE: "Dear Karen... Here is a recent likeness..." accompanied by the most gorgeous portrait photo of him I have ever seen. Oi... the man really has a wicked sense of humour... ;-D

Thanks KJArt for being so generous. Drool has lots of lurkers.Don't ever feel you have to contribute something material....your comments are just as welcomed. Good to know he answers some mail...but yours was special. (KJArt).....this is for all you've given ME. A nice way to put it. My sentiments too. Spring is a special community for me.

One can only imagine what you did watch "properly" in this movie. Was it the doorway leaning scene? the jogging scene? the bed of the truck scene? (Heide) You got it! V-e-ry handsome! V-e-e-ry sl-o-m-o!! I reckon he fancied Jennifer Jason Leigh..he gave her a very apppraising look! We did you a favor, Bethan, by panning this movie so severely. You could not have been disappointed. (Heide) I guess I was pleasantly surprised because I had such low expectations. I think Eileen is right...it was re-edited to focus on the Oscar-aspiring leads, the men's roles were diminished and the balance and credibility of the movie were undermined. I particularly disliked the line about Jess "I got sick, so he left". In the novel Jess was weak, but sensitive and caring...he wanted to re-build his relationship with his father and was uncomfortable about seeming to benefit from Pete's death. All lost in the m vie. There was nothing really there for CF...but he's certainly very good to look at! Deserves much better though! Colin has to prove himself at the American box offices...where the big bucks are. (Eileen) I think he's doing well by going for well-promoted (and good) movies that get international distribution. Hopefully MLSF will be well promoted and reach a lot of screens worldwide. I'd like to see him up there with Rafe Fiennes in terms of recognition and leading roles! It will be interesting to see what he does next. (Now when are you going to get those answers, Moon?!!!! You'll have to administer a verbal rap on the knuckles if there's no reply by the New Year! And we know he reads his post!))

Hopefully MLSF will be well promoted and reach a lot of screens worldwide. But HE is the star and only HE can promote it. Let's see how much he is willing to do.The rest of that cast are Europeans who have no name recognition in the US.SIL had a bunch. Also, remember, MLSF is only an $8.M film. SIL is $42.M; the most expensive Miramax has ever produced.Harvey pulled out all the stops for this one.

KJ: I knew that I should have sent COlin a birthday card. Our birthday's are one day apart. I sure would have liked a reply like that. Yes, Catholic weddings,girls are serious. I am the sixth generation of Catholics. My son is the seventh. They are very long and beautiful. I was only joking about being jealous of his being married. I am so glad for his happiness :)

This is from one of the pictures Winter took at the LA Screening. I cropped out all that wasn't relevant. Otherwise you'd be playing a Where's Waldo game! ;-) Sorry about the blurriness, but it comes with the territory.

Thanks for cropping and zooming the picture, Karen. It makes the picture seem less terrible, considering all the other stuff surrounding Colin. (BTW, the bald black guy on the left is Jeff the Bodyguard, the one who let me and Liz into the theatre!) Speaking of Catholic weddings... the ceremony may be solemn and serious, but you have to consider whether the groom's/bride's thoughts were solemn and serious as well...(Colin was brought up Methodist, no? )I myself come from a very long line of Catholics (mom was very close to being a nun before she decided to do her duty to God as a wife and mom), and I'm sad to say, that I never once took any Catholic ceremony seriously!

Why?

Am I the last person to discover CF's new website? http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Lights/2524/ What's the final number....anybody know.? He must have close to 20!! Karen...you've gotten to be a whiz with that scanner....Zooming and Cropping. Thanks for all the goodies. I'm glad he's married too.

(Arami) Why? Too much of something may not be a good thing, I guess. In my case, it was too much religion-- rosaries every night, mass every week, being told your entire existence is a sin... I guess my family's approach to religion wasn't my cup of tea. It certainly didn't make me happy for years. However, to appease my parents, I could see myself having a Catholic ceremony if I get married. That's why I just wondered about the sincerity of Colin/Livia when they got hitched. Evelyn-- I discovered that website this past week. It's so funny how the same info. can be circulating around the same of group websites, though we get excited once we discover a new website! Maybe in hopes of discovering some "never seen before" information?

A snippet in the Times.... Emma Thompson is being "woo-d" to play the part of Eleanor of Acquitaine in a re-make of "The Lion in Winter". No mention of who will play Henry II....an absolutely terrific role. Can someone woo Colin, please? There are three great roles out there at the moment...the Earl of Boswell, Henry II, and Mark Darcy (okay, lighter, I know, but good fun!). Oh, and they can't be played by Mel Gibson....he's apparently (in addition to playing Sydney Carton) also taking the role of the British polar expedition hero Sir Ernest Shackleton (dies nobly saving his men!), so he's pretty busy! Has CF got a chance? There are also regular snips about SIL...mainly about GP (nudity, luminosity etc), JF (imminent stardom) and JD (great performance)but no mention (predictably!) of CF. But there's definitely already a positive buzz about SIL.

It's so funny how the same info. can be circulating around the same of group websites, ... This new website features **New Recent Photos** of CF that bear a great resemblance to the NY Premiere pics on Murph's Corner.!! Has transcript of interview I had never read before, though.... It's a v. attractive websight. I think these editors have to be commended .

I must say I find the new website a bit funny, so much pink and rosiness dedicated to a very sexy and masculine guy! What I mean is, I appreciated the idea of www.colinfirth.com as a site that CF himself wouldn�t be ashamed of. Also, I wish that the various sites would make it quite clear that they aren�t officially connected to Colin. Girls, it�s been interesting to read your thoughts about Catholicism and marriage. It�s an exotic thing for a person like me, living in a secularized Lutheran society where marriage is really not such a big deal (but a good reason to have a big party of course!!) and according to statistics, about 50 per cent of marriages are destined to end up in a divorce (which is not such a big deal either because it happens so often). Still people get married a lot, it�s fun and romantic...! Anyway, I wish you all a very lovely Christmas time! And to Colin and his family of course, where ever he is right now. Bugs me I didn�t send him a Christmas card.

Hi Eileen. It's good to see you here. And it is wonderful to see so much of Colin these days. We better stretch this out for as long as we can. Might it be another long dry spell before the next film? (Evelyn on MLSF) But HE is the star and only HE can promote it. Let's see how much he is willing to do. The rest of that cast are Europeans who have no name recognition in the US. (snip) Also, remember, MLSF is only an $8.M film. SIL is $42.M; the most expensive Miramax has ever produced.Harvey pulled out all the stops for this one. Good points, Evelyn. Heck, Malcolm Macdowell might have more name recognition in the US than Colin. But still, I've heard Gwyneth called the Queen of Miramax. Then shouldn't Colin be called the King (or at least the Prince since his roles are mostly supporting)? It looks quite likely that he will be in two of the last three years' Oscar Best Picture nominated films. (Elena)...snip... where marriage is really not such a big deal (but a good reason to have a big party of course!!) I see we think alike, Elena. One thing to be said for those who don't think marriage is a big deal...when you do get married, it really makes a statement. And while celebrities get married all the time, they also get married quite often. It appears uncommon for these couples to make it past two years so it's quite a statement to me if they make it beyond ten years. I'd be quite unhappy if the Firth marriage didn't make it. (Bethan on ATA) V-e-ry handsome! V-e-e-ry sl-o-m-o!! I reckon he fancied Jennifer Jason Leigh..he gave her a very apppraising look! Ah, you caught that too! And didn't Jennifer give him quite a look at the barbecue? If she had lived on the farm, you can bet Jess would have bed all three sisters! Anytime, you want to discuss the "merits" of this film, I'll be right there with you. I particularly disliked the line about Jess "I got sick, so he left". Particularly since in the book, Jess left before she got sick. I haven't visited this website mentioned above (or have I?) but will check it out as soon as I return from more shopping. (When will it end?) The number of websites on our boy is amazing and while we may not visit all of them regularly, it sure is indicative of the loyalty and passion this actor inspires.

I don't know that much about the Catholic religion even though I am married to a lapsed Catholic,but wouldn't Colin have to have gone through all kinds of religious training and then be confirmed to be married Catholic. The Catholic church must have changed in the last 40 years because they excommunicated my mother for marrying my Luthern father. I hope Colin gets out to promote MLSF, but I think he will prob. only do print media as he has in the past. Unfortunately for us, MLSF does not appear to have the box office potential of SIL. I can't seeing a movie about an eccentic inventor on a moss farm being a big draw for the general population. I'm still hoping he gets the part of Mark Darcy. I think that could be a major role.

(Sue)...wouldn't Colin have to have gone through all kinds of religious training and then be confirmed to be married Catholic You're right. Especially since it's an Italian Catholic he's marrying! I would think they take that stuff even more seriously than maybe an American Catholic Church, where you can avoid those type of hurdles. If he did go through all the classes, training, baptism, etc... then...*sigh*...THAT'S a man who is really in love, and willing to do whatever for the woman he loves. (Heide)But still, I've heard Gwyneth called the Queen of Miramax. I actually would think Parker Posey would be the Queen of Miramax. I'd vote for her, personally, over GP any day! She's so spunky, that Parker! (Elena)Still people get married a lot, it�s fun and romantic Absolutely right. Aside from the seriousness of the act of marriage itself, c'mon sisters... you have to admit....the dress? The party? the presents? the cake? the walking-down-the-aisle? Who wouldn't!? I loved 'Four Weddings and a Funeral' because I'm such a sucker for weddings, and the film had so many variations on different approaches to a wedding. I think I liked the second wedding the best-- the one where Hugh Grant runs into duck-face at the reception.

I'm from a strongly Catholic country, but have never had quite the same problem with religion as I have observed since in other parts of Europe - maybe because my bohemian parents had a healthy attitude to these matters: basically, they taught me to keep faith and religion separate and in a reasonable perspective. Only when I left my country, I discovered with great surprise that I was a "lapsed" Catholic, and that despite being a believer, I am not religious... but I am more concerned with being Christia in attitude, than just Catholic in tradition. Since Colin is "bohemian" himself, I think his take on these matters may be similar. And I think that a lot of Italians, especially younger ones, also have a modern outlook on these things. People should be more preoccupied with living according to certain moral values, rather than performing rites mechanically. I do sincerely hope his marriage survives. He seems to be very serious about it and has once declared publicly that it is a relationship which he expects to last for the rest of his life.

Oh, btw, I don't think the Catholic church is so strict about cross-religion marriages anymore. I don't think Colin had to become a Catholic to marry one, although marrying in a Catholic church may mean having to promise to bring one's children in the faith.

There's another glowing review of Shakespeare...on one of my favorite sites, www.girlsonfilm.com While there's nothing special about the review, obligatory mention of Colin as Lord Wessex, there is a bit about a Lord Wessex scene that I had not heard before. Might be a spoiler for some. There is also a Message Board for SiL. No ones mentions Colin there either so I may just have to do so. Might be better though from someone who has actually seen the film.

Oh, btw, I don't think the Catholic church is so strict about cross-religion marriages anymore. I don't think Colin had to become a Catholic to marry one, although marrying in a Catholic church may mean having to promise to bring one's children in the faith.

This is a better address if you want to check out the above site: girlsonfilm yadda yadda

Oh, btw, I don't think the Catholic church is so strict about cross-religion marriages anymore. I don't think Colin had to become a Catholic to marry one, although marrying in a Catholic church may mean having to promise to bring one's children in the faith.

Someone stop this nonsensical program. If that's the way it wants to play it, then it's time to sail away. I'm sick and tired of the world today and the feeling seems to be mutual. :-/

Hi I finally made it. Hello everyone, I have been a lurker for almost a year and with a bit of pursuasion from a certain someone I have plucked up courage to join in. I amreally new at this and hope you will bear with me but I am an avid CF fan and love to read all you comments.

Arami,.......I believe you were having that same duplicating problem on #97.Count Almasy is at it again. (Heide)Anytime, you want to discuss the "merits" of this film, I'll be right there with you. Perhaps, since it is now available to everyone on Video, we could discuss ATA next on #98. Up to Karen and Heide.... Hey Girls...I am a practicing Catholic and it is a different set of rules now . Of course,it has always depended on the diocese.(And Italy might be more or less strict than most). But one does not have to go through all the sacramental rituals. Baptism from any Christian religion is accepted. And no, one does not have to promise to bring up children in the RC faith. Often priests and ministers/rabbis co-perform the ceremony. We're pretty hip....:-)) (But the 50% divorce rate holds true for Catholics as well)

****WELCOME ANN.....**** Hey kids...this is really a Red Letter Day. Ann is one of the most devoted fan of CF that I know. (JE too). And I've known her for over a year. Great to have you posting....(though she has always been with us in spirit.) (I should talk....I was a lurker for six months and as Nan says: "Now we can't get rid of her"!!)

(winter) I actually would think Parker Posey would be the Queen of Miramax. No, most consider her Queen of the Indies (the real indies). Was shocked to see that she has entered the mainstream with "You've Got Mail." Going to have to check out the new sites. Thanks ladies.

Haven't checked out the Sun-Times yet, but Gene Siskel of the Chicago Tribune didn't list SiL in his top 10 (actually 11) of 1998. Number 1 was Babe: Pig in the City.

(Evelyn)(But the 50% divorce rate holds true for Catholics as well) Well, that proves that we Catholics are human as well. ;-) * Ann, welcome to the madhouse. Another Brit? Yeah, baby, let's Firth! Round and round... that feels good...

(Karen)Re: Siskert top 10: Number 1 was Babe: Pig in the City. You're kidding....that was panned by every critic. The guy's losin'it.

Well friends, I just got back from the Philippines a couple of days ago and Drool has been abuzz! It has taken me two hours just to catch up on this topic and I have yet to go to all the other CF items to check what lovelies might be there. Dame Winter, you are my hero and I humbly bow before your bravery in the face of great odds. How I wish I had been there with you! Heide wrote to me in Manila about your adventure and I can't believe I missed it. I have to admit to a few days of severe depression to be stuck so far from home and missing such important things. I also missed getting to see Garth Brooks perform live and possibly meet him afterwards (one of my dearest friends got me a free ticket, if you can believe it.) I missed that to , sigh. This *#$&*@! job! Let's hope that Miramax puts on a premiere for MLSF and our DB will make an appearance. jen, I'll meet you there for sure! Now that you and Livia are old friends, we should have no trouble getting a group photo with you-know-who :-).

Welcome my dear Ann. I see that you made it. Do join in the fun. I know that you will enjoy it and you are in such good company. My dear friends: I have been Catholic my whole life. I married in the church many years ago and it was a long,long service. Very old fashion. Back then you had to marry a Catholic. Now, not that way. At least not in my parish. Even when y son was baptised 2 1/2 years ago not both Godparents had to be Catholic although his were. I hope that marriage survives, indeed, at times any marriage is trying.

Couldn't decide if this belonged here or in Darcy Drool??? By now, many have heard that P&P, Mr. Darcy and Elizabeth Bennet are featured and discussed in "You've Got Mail," but is it known that Colin's face is actually shown? There is a shot of Tom Hanks reading the Modern Library edition of P&P, the one with the A&E cover. Shame that Nora Ephron didn't take it further by having Colin and Jennifer sitting at the next table at one of the cafe scenes. Like a little Hitchcock touch...

Perhaps, since it is now available to everyone on Video, we could discuss ATA next on #98. Huh! I've just failed miserably to re-rent the ATA video. I've a bit of time to myself tomorrow as my family are all busy(and I'm on top of Christmas!) , so I thought I'd watch ATA properly! (We covert CF fans have to take our fixes secretly!) BUT, could I get hold of a copy...NO, I could NOT! Tried three video rentals ...and in each one, all copies were out on loan. Admittedly they don't hold many copies (as compared with wall-to-wall "City of Angels" , "Wag The Dog" etc.) But, STILL... At Blockbusters, I actually asked about the availability of "A Thousand Acres, with Michelle Pfeiffer" and was most taken aback when the assistant yelled out to his colleague "Hey Malc, any copies of that Colin Furf movie?". Damn, my cover blown! I don't know if this is news, but I'm an optimist by nature, so I'm taking it positively, as it's the first time I've seen a date mentioned. In Entertainment Weekly Online, there's an article on HF (she's no 12 in Entertainers of the Year...well done, Helen!) I quote.. "If BJD was a movie (and by early 2000 it will be, courtesy of Working Title Films, makers of Four Weddings and A Funeral) Hollywood would call it a chickflick.." The first details of SIL were released in January of this year, for a shoot beginning in March, and a release date end 98/beginning 99. So BJD could be similar. As I said, I'm an optimist!! The article also says that in the sequel to BJD, "we'll see what happens when someone like BJ actually gets the guy". The URL is: http://cgi.pathfinder.com/ew/features/981225/yearend/fielding.html Hello there, Ann!

Hello Bethan, and everyone for a lovely welcome. We Brits are few and far between, I guess we are still catching up on the internet. Does anyone know if Colin is still on his "well-earned break" (FAQ), one film a year is just not enough, I do hope we hear of something soon.

(Ann)Does anyone know if Colin is still on his "well-earned break" (FAQ), one film a year is just not enough, I do hope we hear of something soon. I hope he's getting ready to publicize SIL in UK for the January 29 Uk Premiere. (Bethan) "Hey Malc, any copies of that Colin Furf movie?". ROTFLOL. TV ALERT:( At least in my area ) Tonight at 10:30 PM PBS will show an installment of CROWN & COUNTRY, the historical documentary on UK produced by Prince Andrew,(I think...the youngest one). This one is entitled: "WINCHESTER". Inasmuch as it is DB's hometown, I thought some might be interest. Also they might show Chawton. I just was v. impressed with Winchester when I was there this summer.

Only 4 more days until SIL opens nationwide!! It's hard to believe it has been more than 1 year since we've seen Colin in anything new. I saw ATA on sale at a mall video store for the first time last week. I was cash-poor so didn't buy it (yet!). I agree with all who've said there are many scenes with high rewind potential, despite Colin's overall limited screen time. I've never seen the new website either (the one with all the roses) and I thought I knew them all! I find www.colinfirth.com to have links to sites with the most up-to-date info, since Ellen's not updating the FAQ monthly anymore. But since I'm spending more time here lately, I havn't been around to some of the others in awhile. Re: MLSF and Colin's need to be the main promo guy: Is it me or does he seem more relaxed in the SIL premiere pics (both coasts) as compared to premiere pics from TEP? Maybe the break's done him good and he's ready to jump back in with both feet. Let's hope! Has anyone heard anything new about SLOW? I'm off to the in-laws for the holiday. Merry Christmas to my new friends at Drool!

At Blockbusters, I actually asked about the availability of "A Thousand Acres, with Michelle Pfeiffer" and was most taken aback when the assistant yelled out to his colleague "Hey Malc, any copies of that Colin Furf movie?". Damn, my cover blown! Thank you, Bethan, for sharing. Love it! ROTFLOL! *** Welcome, Ann, glad you found the way finally. *** Here's a little Christmas goodie for all: http://www.firth.com/christmas/onedeer.htm

Darling, Renate (and the other 2 deer). I particularly love the Darcy Breeches but that red bow looks like he's wearing a nightcap. I'm sorry, but I had to laugh at the vision of Colin as Mrs. Bennet that picture evokes for me. But it is all lovely and I love to laugh anyway. Eileen, think Santa might know you need 1000 Acres in your stocking? Or must you be sly about your Firth devotion. Love your story, Bethan. How many of the rest of us furtively seek out Colin? I know I do though I can't explain the reason why. Welcome, Ann. Evelyn is a wonderful recruiter, is she not? It took me a couple months too to get the nerve to dive in but we are such a friendly bunch as I hope the other very new-comers like Elena, Rita and Eileen will tell you. (Karen) Gene Siskel of the Chicago Tribune didn't list SiL in his top 10 (actually 11) of 1998. Number 1 was Babe: Pig in the City. I don't think he's been the same since his brain operation. I'm serious!!

(Eileen) Has anyone heard anything new about SLOW? Hopefully,, we'll get news in the New Year. Bank still owns the film, but they insist :"you will get to see it ".

Heide, have you tried to click on the red bow ;-)?

Welcome Ann from one lurker and JE fan to another. I was cracking up when I read about that "well-earned break". I've often wondered what the man does with all his time. I hope he's putting it to good use. I would like to see about 3 films a year from him. That way we can be assured of at least one of them being shown in the US. Now I have to go see You've Got Mail for the P&P references. That would have been an terrific idea to have CF and JE in the movie. Karen, I think they need you in Hollywood. The review for YGM in my paper said if you want to see one romantic comedy, SIL in is the one to see. I enjoyed reading that. Bethan, Loved the Blockbuster story. When I was looking for Playmaker in various Blockbuster's, I was always hoping that know one would recognize it as a raunchy CF movie. It would have been too mortifying for me! I think Evelyn has recruited at least half this board. :-)) I think she should be honorary chairwoman here. Honorary only, Evelyn, as in no work. :-)) SIL made the top 10 lists of the 2 major film critics in Dallas at number 2 and number 4. Gene Siskel really missed the boat. His credibilty is shot with me.

Renate,I missed you. Thanks for the new input at colinfirth.com, that was fun. Bethan, I wish Blockbusters in Lisbon had employees who knew who CF is. And I'd love them to have any of his films - they have TEP and that's it. That's why I never get to see them. Miserable place this is.

Allow mw to join everyone else in welcoming the ex-lurkers!

(Sue) Now I have to go see You've Got Mail for the P&P references. Made me wonder who was the closet P&P fan: Nora Ephron or her sister Delia, who shares the writing credits. Or maybe its a long-held Mr. Darcy crush or Mr. Firth frenzy? ;-) When I was looking for Playmaker in various Blockbuster's, I was always hoping that know one would recognize it as a raunchy CF movie. It would have been too mortifying for me! Aside from wearing a paper bag over one's head, the only solution is to own Playmaker (they will send it in a plain wrapper) so as not to invite such derision. Gene Siskel really missed the boat. His credibilty is shot with me. Happened long ago for me. ;-) BTW, I have checked and Ebert won't be publishing his Top 10 until this Sunday. There is a big article in today's Sun-Times about Gwyneth Paltrow. Calls her "Princess Paltrow" several times referring to the fact that she is Hollywood's reigning princess. No mention of Colin in the article though. More human interest-y. Let me join in the chorus: Wonderful job, Deers! Love the picture without the bow. So sweet.

Great picture!!

I've been told that Karen has received the fan-photo by snailmail today. Hold your breath, FirthFanatics. And Merry Christmas!

More on Bethan's Blockbuster Story I ordered Playmaker and The Advocate from Critics Choice...Shortly afterwardsI started to receive Porn Flick Catalogs....really impressed my mailman! My favorite CF Christmas Pic is the one they had last year..the one where he is wearing the red turtleneck and someone put a red Santa hat on him....cool. I think it was in the Advent calendar... I recruit my friends to this board, because I have so much fun and want to share it with them....LOL at Arami's welcome to Ann: "Welcome to the Madhouse".

It is a fun little group isn't it? Welcome to all the new posters. It's great to see you out in the open! Nothing like a new CF film to inspire people :-)

There are only two words to describe KJart's Christmas Present to you: Positively Gorgeous...but you might have others! ;-)

describe KJart's Christmas Present to you: Awesome.....leaves one speechless.....Those Eyes..... Thank you KJArt (aka the Other Karen).What a lovely thought to share this with us. A Gift from the Magi!! I have never seen this photo before. Think it's his latest??

The picture downloads beautifully with Explorer 4. .... Thank you Bill Gates :-)) ( Of course I can't post on Drool with Explorer4.Grrrr)

Oomph! I've been speechless for several moments. That is lovely, gorgeous, I'm in heaven. If this is his latest, then he is only getting better. Thank you so much, ladies - KJArt for sharing with us, and Karen for slapping this baby up so fast. This is my new wallpaper.

Mmm. Lovelllly. Thanks

WOW, Karen when you said gorgeous, you weren't lying. His eyes are positively incredible. And of course, I've always had a weak spot for that neck! I could definitely sink my teeth into that!!!! Going back to the eyes, they are very bright and not as dark as I thought, more like a light brown. To the two Karens', WHOA!!!!

Sorry. Missed the posting. My server positively refused to get me into Spring yesterday. **Sob!** Drool indeed! So happy that KarenR so promptly helped me to share and also very happy you have not considered me to have exaggerated! And I, too, love that neck. Also the hands. And the voice..... (But only with the lovely accent. Did anyone else notice that a few times in ATA he began to sound like William Shatner?!?! OHHH NOOO!!) So glad "the 2 Karens" could oblige. AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT!

(follow-up) Evelyn: yes I think it is pretty recent, as it was described as such in the note accompanying it. IMO the older he gets, the better he looks...(I figure by the time he's 60, I'll be swooning dead away.) (I should live so long).

(Laura) His eyes are positively incredible. And of course, I've always had a weak spot for that neck! Ditto. Ditto. And what about that strong chin and jawline? I'd love to trace those features with my sticky little fingers. (Arami) Heide, have you tried to click on the red bow ;-)? Yes, I did. Thank you. So very lovely. Actually I like the bow more and more. Makes me want to reach out and unwrap such an enticing present.

(KJArt) the older he gets, the better he looks... True, True....like fine wine.....slurp, slurp. Merry Christmas Everybody.You all mean a lot to me:-)) And thanks again to the two Karens.

It is just past midnight in the UK and I would like to wish my new friends a very Merry Christmas and a Happy & Prosperous New Year with lots of Firth news.

Hello everybody, due to some blasted computer trouble I haven�t been able to get here for a couple of days. The situation irritated me so much that I began to suspect I�m addicted....am I?? Oh, who cares if the drug�s this good! KJart and Karen, thanks a lot for the beautiful picture. (Sue) I've often wondered what the man does with all his time. I hope he's putting it to good use. Exactly, I�m sure we�ve all thought about it during Colin�s well-earned break this year. What DOES he actually fill his days with when he doesn�t work? I must say I have my theories about it and sure we all do but I guess it�s just no use to speculate..... Seriously, I find it strange that the break has been so long and that there are no definite news about his next project.

Hi there Ann, nice to �see � you! I wish you too a great Christmas and New Year. In Finland it�s two thirty at night and outside there�s a lot of snow and more is coming down all the time. The tiny town I live in is very quiet right now, no traffic or even sounds of it. I just came from a Christmas party and feel exhausted but quite good. Traditions...

Elena, I have this premonition and I very very much hope I am wrong, that after all the publicity for SIL and perhaps the UK Premiere Colin will annouce that he is going to retire, (a la Anthony Hopkins) I really really hope not and that is why I am so anxious to hear about his next project.

Oh god, it almost made my heart stop when I read your response, Ann. I haven�t let a horrible thought like that enter my head although I understand your premonition very well. Still, I�m not ready to believe he�d do it, he�s only 38 and that�s an age when you normally aim to develop strongly in your profession, not quit it.....?? Of course there have been symptoms of him being �fucked up� (like he said in an interview). With what exactly, we can only guess. I believe he has also turned down a lot of interviews this year. Still, who isn�t fucked up with one�s job every now and then? Especially if you�re very ambitious about it and cannot always get the sort of roles you find worthwhile. No, I can�t believe he�d give it up. Actually I believe there are other sort of reasons for his quietness this year, like simply wanting to take a long break. Family is actually the first thing that comes to my mind but naturally there can be many other explanations.

Hello ! Finally I have made it ! I am HERE !!!! Thank you winter for your "report" I loved it and I felt as I were there with you. And thanks to KarenR for the picture, I love it and it is a real chistmas present to me to look at it and melt away ! I wish you all a merry chistmas and hope to read from you soon !

Karens both, Thank you. Renate, Thanks again for this delicious man in so many ways. Just when I think I am immune to his charms and am sated, someone puts up a photo like that Karens one and I capitulate yet another time. Happily!

(For those of you who celebrate): Merry Christmas everyone! Laura....you've got the same notion in your head as I do--about sinking your teeth into that neck of his. So enticing...is it not? Did you know he's got a mole on the other side of that neck? *sigh* Welcome, Sabine! Glad you finally made it. Hope to see you post often!

Glad you all liked the picture as much as I did. Took my breath away when I opened the envelope and had to get it up as quickly as possible. Thank you KarenJ for sending it to me.

Wow, I agree, this picture is just breath taking, Colin is always very photogenic in his interview pictures, really knows how to turn on the charm in front of the camera...as we all know. Once again, a big thank you to the two Karens. (KJart) IMO the older he gets, the better he looks...(I figure by the time he's 60, I'll be swooning dead away.) Yes, so will the rest of us here at drool.

He strikes me as one of those actors who will probably get bigger and better roles as he gets older. I can't think of too many who do that at the moment...but Pete Postlewaite (sp?) and Morgan Freeman come to mind right now.

KarenR--You're welcome. But I think we should all appreciate that I was not the source of this gift, but Colin himself (or at least his agency). I merely passed the gift on to those I knew would appreciate it!! THANK YOU, COLIN! Heide and Ann--I'm curious...how did you manage to defy time and speak to us from over 60 years in the past?? (Responses 118 and 119 came to us from...wait for it...1930!!!) Or is it just my machine?? (Also found it curious that the previous 6 entries to those were all posted literally simultaneously!!) What gives, does anyone know? And finally Ann W and Elena--I very much doubt that the DB is considering retiring...in that new interview on the new site, he was talking about his acting career and said, "...I'm used to it being precarious. There are times that I would like it to be more secure and predictable, BUT IT NEVER WILL BE" (Caps mine). Does sound like someone who is considering quitting right away! Could be he's in one of those unpredictable times when he's thinking carefully over his next move...After all he's got 2 movies in the can that haven't been released yet and another to be released in the US early next year (FP) Let him reat on his laurals (Or anywhere elso he wants to rest) if he wants. He's still obligated, I'm sure, to all those Premieres.

Oh no, I really don�t think he�s quitting or even considering it any more than any of us are considering to quit our more or less precarious but still so precious jobs. Eileen G wrote in her response 102 about Colin looking very relaxed in the SIL premiere pics, unlike in the TEP premiere. I agree, looks like he�s gained more confidence or something. He certainly doesn�t look like a man who is planning to retire. Imagining that he�d quit the biz just reveals our girlish fears of losing him, I�m afraid. What if he�d just disappear permanently out of our sight!!! A catastrophe! How could we ageing women survive it?....Reminds me of how I felt about my first boyfriend. (And the second one, and....:-))

(Elena) How could we ageing women survive it?....Reminds me of how I felt about my first boyfriend. (And the second one, and....:-)) Exactly. We'll get over it. Luckily, it's premature to worry about it anyway and I'm looking forward to a very long and fruitful career for him. Here's hoping for three CF films to be released in 1999. Karen (KJArt), the dates go kerflooey here sometimes and generally that means we're having a bit of trouble on the board so if you ever can't get in, try again later. Terry is very prompt fixing these little glitches for us. I saw Shakespeare in Love today! He did us proud.

I'm told there was a mystery visitor in CF Chat a short time ago, who had worked on Circle of Friends in Ireland with DB, with whom she is said to have had a bitter-sweet and wet encounter ;-)... She was invited to join Drool and relay her story in detail. Diana, stop lurking and get thee in here now! (Please? :-))

Oh no, Diana, it's all over now;) Don't tell them you live down the road from Bono of U2, you'll never hear the end of it;)

Re: Diane on CoF:She was invited to join Drool and relay her story in detail. Yeah. I was in the chat room that night , and I invited her to join us giving her our URL. Hope she reads this and knows I mean't it. It's a funny story. Diane worked on the set design of CoF.Please, tell the story Diane. Also Carrie G.was there that night. She is the webmaster of a CF webiste I had never seen before either:http://www.cyberoo.com/firthfrenzy/ I saw SIL yesterday and it is a sure winner. Also saw "You've Got Mail" (same day!) And yes Karen, Joe Fox (Tom Hanks) is shown reading P&P with the A&E cover on it featuring CF & JE! Lots of P&P stuff in the movie. Real cute. Welcome Sabine...please stick around and post often.

He strikes me as one of those actors who will probably get bigger and better roles as he gets older (winter) Agreed! (although I'd like him to be inundated with those bigger and better roles now) He is ageing VERY well, but at times he can still look very boyish. I actually thought that in ATA he could have easily passed for late twenties. He seems to be able to shed the years, and add to them, as the role requires! I very much doubt that the DB is considering retiring...in that new interview on the new site, he was talking about his acting career and said, "...I'm used to it being precarious. There are times that I would like it to be more secure and predictable, BUT IT NEVER WILL BE" (Caps mine). Does sound like someone who is considering quitting right away! Could be he's in one of those unpredictable times when he's thinking carefully over his next move (KJArt) Again, total accord! But I couldn't help wondering why he still regards his career as "precarious", when other lesser and smugly self-satisfied actors seem to be booked up for years ahead and regrettably never seem to be off our screens. He should be getting back-to-back offers of decent work and I really hope that his 6 month break is through personal choice. And I also hope his next role is a major one!! And I hope that reviewers and critics, particularly in the UK, start recognising his true worth. They can be very begrudging about CF, as though praise is painful....I actually have a theory that male critics don't like him and are only too happy to put the boot in! There's one guy on the Sunday Telegraph in particular!! Jealous, perhaps? I'm told there was a mystery visitor in CF Chat a short time ago, who had worked on Circle of Friends in Ireland with DB, with whom she is said to have had a bitter-sweet and wet encounter ;-) (Arami) Mmmmmmm!! Very tantalising. How wet? A fleeting shower of rain , a dip in the River Shannon...I'd love to hear the story!! Apparently GP has been saying very nice things about Colin...that he's her "acting idol, and that the way he physicalises his performance is brilliant". She also says that she kept on ruining her takes because he had her giggling all the time. Sour, mealy mouthed critic on the Sunday Telegraph...please take note! And good on ya, Gwynnie. CF is being interviewed on next Sunday's Breakfast with the Arts on A&E. Eileen G wrote in her response 102 about Colin looking very relaxed in the SIL premiere pics, unlike in the TEP premiere. I agree, looks like he�s gained more confidence or something. (Elena) He's gained a beautiful, caring and supportive wife, who I'm sure tells him how great he is!!

Bethan, the news that CF is being interviewed on next Sunday's Breakfast with the Arts is the best news of Colin I have heard today, I hope someone will record it and let us in the UK know what he says. Thankyou.

I'm wondering which website will steal KJArt's pic of Colin first without permission......

(Karen) Took my breath away ... and had to get it up as quickly as possible. Sigh, if only we could hear Colin say these lines...;-) Seriously, many many thanks to the Karen's for that delightful photo. Immediate wallpaper!!!

Just read some of the comments on SIL over at 115. Made my reservations about SIL come flooding back in a HUGE tidal wave!!! It sounds like a great movie, but one in which CF's role is so unsympathetic that the the only impact on his career will be a mass transfer of affections to Joe Fiennes, even by CF die-hards! I can't understand why he curbs all his natural charm, tenderness, masculinity and authority, and chooses to play grumpy buffoons, and also appears in movies where all the attention inevitably ocuses on the romantic lead (or other leads, as in ATA). No other leading actor does this. What sort of scripts is he sent? By the time he does play a decent lead role again (when?), will there be anyone out there still interested in seeing him? Sorry to sound so irritable, but I think he's committing/committed career suicide. I preferred him in his pre-Darcy roles! Okay, shut me up, my usual good cheer sems to have deserted me!!

Good cheer is returning! I've just reminded myself of the importance of a long term perspective, and that he is an ACTOR (and a very fine and versatile one)! Happy New Year!

I second and third everything you have said Bethan, I just wish my good cheer would return as quickly as yours. Perhaps some postive news about a future project would help, I hope we receive the replies to the questions in the not too distant future and I would love to hear that he has been offered a part in the forthcoming BBC film Mary Queen of Scots, that would be something to look forward to.

(Bethan) It sounds like a great movie, but one in which CF's role is so unsympathetic that the the only impact on his career will be a mass transfer of affections to Joe Fiennes, even by CF die-hards!d Did my comments lead you to that conclusion? In no way am I transferring my affections to Joe Fiennes. The only reason that I mentioned him the way I did is that HE is not getting the accolades that he deserves for this role. All we hear about is GP, GR, JD and even BA ("surprisingly good"). Hardly anyone mentions JF's acting and he is critical to the believability of the love angle. Colin's part is unsympathetic, cold, obsequious, etc. He's made to look ridiculous. My choice of post-SiL viewings was only meant to remind me that he can be likeable and attractive to women. Maybe after my fourth viewing, I'll pull out the big guns (P&P). He can only get praise for being in such a good movie as SiL. It shouldn't hurt his career. But I just wonder if he is doing this intentionally. That he doesn't want any part of "heartthrob" roles. If that's the case, then I shall be sorry, but w uldn't desert him. I am looking forward to Colin being interviewed on A&E (a Disney-owned cable channel), but A&E viewers already know Colin. What he needs is a more mainstream appearance. BTW, where is a "Making of SiL" half hour program? There's a Making of You've Got Mail, A Bug's Life, Thin Red Line, etc. I've checked all the cable listings for "making ofs" and none are for SiL. What are they waiting for? Next Christmas? Roger Ebert listed SiL as number 8 on his 10 best list for 1998 (sorry, it followed Babe at number 7) Liked how he described SiL: "Lots of stagecraft and high and low comedy, in a film that sometimes plays like a contest between 'Masterpiece Theatre' and Mel Brooks."

Did anyone notice the Photo of Hillary Clinton in Time Mag at a Manhattan screening of SIL?! I also got to watch the first TV ad for the movie. It is as much as I am going to see of it on this Island for some time, I would imagine!

(Marcia) Did anyone notice the Photo of Hillary Clinton in Time Mag at a Manhattan screening of SIL?! Is anyone else of *interest* in the picture with her? Which issue? Going to have to look when I get home. It is as much as I am going to see of it on this Island for some time, I would imagine! Why's that? Last I heard Hawaii was still part of the US. If you don't have it right now, then nationwide release (I didn't hear anything about excluding continental US) is in two weeks. BTW, could you bop over to Maui and check out who's there? Usually a big contingent of bigwigs with their kids over on the side with the 4 Seasons (as I recall). ;-)

Did my comments lead you to that conclusion? (Karen} Yep! You were the innocent and unwitting trigger, Karen! :-) Now I wish I'd thought before I posted!! I hereby eat my words. Blame my tetchiness on three days of visitors and the fact that the house looks like a bombsite! SIL sounds great and a sure-fire Oscar nominee, and I'm really look forward to seeing it. And CF can chose whichever roles he wants! I don't really care about "romantic hero" roles (after watching the abysmal "Frenchman's Creek" on television recently, I never want to see another man in wet frilly shirt!)...but I would quite like to see him in a role with some authority and gravitas. Here's hoping! My visitors await me...and more tomorrow. Yikes! I'll repeat my good wishes for 1999, and my apologies for my uncharacteristic outburst of spleen!!

Time's man of the year issue. I could not "see" any one other than Hillary who was obvious. The rest are in soft focus and far behind her. It is the 12/28-1/4 issue (a combined deal) and the photo is on page 119. BTW, I found this Read Audio/Video site which plays two film clips from SIL and they will have the trailer in a while (link is there but not "hot") http://www.norvol.hi.is/photos98.html We get funny stuff out here - especially on the Big Island. Hilo is often a test area for odd food to see if it is edible. Movies come quite swiftly IF consolidated opts for them. Do not know where that decision is made. Our Celebrities are on the Kona Coast and up the South Kohala coast. Lovely resorts and vast lava fields broken only by carefully manicured golfing grass. The rough is REALLY rough over there. Maui, I am sure, has their share. Was CF coming over? He did mention going to see the v lcano erupting on his honeymoon in the beginning of FF.

Bethan - LOL! Snap! Never-ending streams of visitors, mess everywhere, but gloomy thoughts...? Well, not really. And I managed to think some charitable thoughts about Colin the Actor. I'm looking forward to that film very much. I can't remember seeing him taking part in the publicity drive with so much obvious enjoyment. His good marriage may have a lot to do with it, but also his feeling good about his career decisions, surely. And I hope he will be just as enrhusiastic on home ground in a month's time, oo.

fourth time try!!! Wrong Hotlink. That went to my geologist son and is of Iceland's eruption. We want http://www.film.com/screen/alllist.html

and, if you do not have the Real Player, download it free on http://www.film.com/screen/

(Karen) I'll pull out the big guns (P&P). He can only get praise for being in such a good movie as SiL. It shouldn't hurt his career. But I just wonder if he is doing this intentionally. That he doesn't want any part of "heartthrob" roles. I pull out P&P all the time. And doesn't he allude to the fact that he enjoys playing villain roles versus being a "nice guy all the time...which can drive one homocidial..." in the on line filmscouts.com interview? I just hope he selects a pleasant role occasionally. I can't remember seeing him taking part in the publicity drive with so much obvious enjoyment. Harvey can do odd things to a fella... I hope he undertakes the UK publicity with the same vigor.

(Ann )the news that CF is being interviewed on next Sunday's Breakfast with the Arts is the best news of Colin I have heard today, I hope someone will record it and let us in the UK know what he says. Drool will have a PAL copy to the UK in the mail as soon as we can get it converted .

Thanks, Evelyn, for helping out our UK sisters. I'm acting like Paul Ashowroth here though and thinking something's got to go wrong. It sounds too good to be true to actually see him interviewed on TV. Does anyone know how long Gwynie was on? (Bethan) SIL sounds great and a sure-fire Oscar nominee, and I'm really look forward to seeing it. Now do you really mean that, Bethan, or are you just saying this to make us feel better? My heart felt a bit of a lurch when I read your first comments 'cause I hate to see you feel so pessimistic. He's really not that ridiculous in this film and has a few good moments. But like you and quite a few others, I think we're beginning to fear he's going to get typecast in unsavory character roles and damn it! he's still a hearthrob, whether he likes it or not. There has to be leading men roles out there for him that he will want to do! I have not given up hope regarding the questions we sent. Moon was asked to send them to London and that was done last week. Maybe, maybe we'll get an answer that way or from another source soon.

Ashowroth?

I looked in my local tv guid and I guess that I am not going to get to see the interview. I have A&E but, I don't see any listing for Breakfast with the Arts. I am very upset. I guess I will rely on my friends here to tell me what he says. I do hope he will take the liberty to discuss his future. Rita

Rita, what time zone are you in? It shows up at 6am Sunday in my TV Guide for Pacific Standard time. Heide told me it's 9am for the EST. And never fear, if one of us manages to capture it on tape I'm sure it will be shared with all!

Breakfast w/ the Arts is on Sunday mornings at 9am EST or 8am CST. I watch it faithfully and the interviews generally are around 35 mins past the hour. I saw Eliott Forrest interview Joshua Bell (Swoon!)

If you get A&E Rita, you get Breakfast with the Arts.Trust me. It goes 1 1/2 hours.9am Eastern, 8am Central,7am Mountain, 6am Pacific But if your station or VCR fails....Drool will make sure anyone who wants to see it will .

this is strange... I checked aetv.com, and the 'Breakfast.." program doesn't mention a Colin appearance. It's something else. Are we talking about THIS Sunday, January 2, 1999 on A&E at 6 a.m. (my time?).

Sunday, January 3 9:00 AM - 10:30 AM Breakfast with the Arts Roald Dahl's Little Red Riding Hood. An instant classic, with Danny DeVito as the voice of the wolf, and Julie Walters portraying both Red Riding Hood and Grandma, this retelling is based on the work of famous children's writer Roald Dahl. Elliott Forrest hosts. [TV G] This is all the A&E website says about it. It is on at 4am in Hawaii. I will definitely tape it - just in case.

It probably is, Winter. Apparently these interviews are done between acts and have nothing to do with the overall show. Last Sunday featured the Canadian Brass and Gwyneth Paltrow was on. Don't let a mere listing fool you.

I have just called A&E in New York and they are trying verify Colin Firth's interview on Sunday. The Little Red Riding Hood story is the feature. They are to call back.....stay tuned.

YES....YES.....YES.... A&E just telephoned back.... "Colin Firth will be interviewed on Sunday on Breakfast with the Arts".

YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!! Thanks Evelyn! You and your phone calls... I always thought you should be in the PR business....

Thank you, Evelyn Dear! I could not stand to get up at 4am just to watch Little Red Riding Hood and no CF!!!

Hey, why is there no link to colinfirth.com from the top of the main Drool menu? There are pages for Northam, Ehle and just about everyone else - but not this, most important one!!! Hosts - action, please!!! :-)

Thank you, Evelyn Dear! I could not stand to get up at 4am just to watch Little Red Riding Hood and no CF!!! (Marcia) LOL! And Evelyn, I agree with Winter, you've missed your true vocation in life! Always go to the source! My heart felt a bit of a lurch when I read your comments cause I hate to see you feel so pessimistic (Heide) Sorry! Just a temporary blip! Let's hope the A&E interviewer says "And tell me Colin, what exciting projects have you got lined up in the future?" He can't say "Mmmmmmmmm, well, nothing, mmmm, actually"...can he? There have to be leading men's roles out there that he'll want to do (Heide) Has to be Mr(Mark)Darcy! Even at my most pessimistic,( :-(((( ) I can't see how he couldn't be offered (and accept) this role. The biggest "plus" is that this is a movie that has automatic "brand recognition" and will get a lot of exposure.

Little Red Riding Hood and Colin as the Big Bad Wolf...a girl can dream no? I'm happy to be back after much skiing and yes, I have seen SIL! I agree with everything Karen says, and, Bethan don't feel bad we share the same thoughts. My husband unlike me did not enjoy it, and this time it was not all CF's fault. He called it a wan pastiche and felt the Twelfth Night reference at the end was a was useless.( Are they setting up a sequel here?) Art Karen thank you for sharing your photo with us, what a treat! I'm happy to see new faces joining our group, maybe one day we'll take it to a convention level with a special appearance by the Man Himself.

Oh, Evelyn, you are a wonder! Thank God your brain is functioning. (Arami) Hey, why is there no link to colinfirth.com from the top of the main Drool menu? Something that can be rectified quickly, I assure you. Too bad no one has mentioned it before.

Laura, since you watch Breakfast With the Arts faithfully, can you tell us how long these interviews usually are? Did you see Gwyneth last Sunday?

Hey, why is there no link to colinfirth.com from the top of the main Drool menu? Probably because all of us have it" Bookmarked". I go there practically every other day. Proud of it too. Great idea to feature it though. Good to have you back, Moon. We missed you. And BTW Nan says she'll do the picture of Colin for Gi's cyber-shower:-) Talking about brand-recognition, I hope the A&E interviewer says something complimentary about P&P and Mr. Darcy. After all, he's A&E's poster-boy!! Best rating they ever had!! Oh, Evelyn, you are a wonder! I wish. I can assure you, I miss more than I succeed. Let's see what the guy at the bank from SLOW says next week.

Bethan, don't feel too bad, we share the same thoughts (Moon) Well, I've eaten my words, but I won't wash my mouth out with soap and water! I actually think that CF has been rather unlucky in the release dates of his movies. If we'd had the opportunity to see MLSF and SLOW first, both leading roles (and hopefully some display of charm and the odd smile!), Wessex would have been seen as a counter-balancing display of versatility in a highly rated movie. But because of the sequence of releases in the US (COF, TEP, ATA,and SIL) CF emerges as a supporting actor in unromantic/unsympathetic roles (although I liked poor Geoffrey!). The positive side though is that TEP, like or loathe it, and SIL will be movies that everyone has heard of. Swings and roundabouts! Our visitors have departed! Yeah!! Hard work (although enjoyable most of the time!) House still resembles a bombsite!

They run between 4-7 mins. Goody, Karen, Rebecca will be up and we can all watch Little Red Riding Hood together! heee heee;)

I overslept last Sunday. Hey I have a child, Christmas was rough on me;) I missed the Luminous Barbie Doll;) the interviews are live btw!

Evelyn, thank you, thank you for the news. Wow, live Firth! (even if it is at 6am). Yippee!!

The link to colinfirth.com is on Drool's Main Page. If however you would like some change to the wording (3 Deer's Colin Firth Page, for example) just let me know.

I�m so unhappy because I don�t have a chance to see the A & E program. And now you�re telling me it�s LIVE!! I really feel awful about missing it but there just isn�t anything I can do about it, is there....sob,sob. Well, of course I could fly over to the States for the weekend but how could I explain this sudden enthusiasm to my husband? �To watch the telly there on Sunday�? Please could someone of you make a transcription of the interview here in the drool, at least on the most important parts of it? I hate to to ask for it but I assure you I�d do it gladly if he was interviewed live in the Finnish TV!! (ok I know he never will......:-/

(Evelyn) "Colin Firth will be interviewed on Sunday on Breakfast with the Arts". Oooh...got the VCR and the Snappy all ready ;-)

Elena....Drool (thanks to Karen) will have a PAL copy made of the A&E Interview and the E! Interview and ship it off to UK. Contact AnnW. via email and the UK & Europe Firthsisters can get a tape-train going. One of the websites surely will have a transcript up right after the interview. Everyone...share the info. Laura...are you sure the Interview on A&E is live? I had an idea this was taped and part of the press junket in November . Who cares...it will be good to see the DB in spontaneous conversation. Nan...could we pl. see some of the interview snappies?

I hope someone puts www.colinfirth.com up because everytime I try to get it I get a message that it doesn't exist

(Karen) Nan...could we pl. see some of the interview snappies? But, of course. Soon as I've got them, I'll upload. (Lucie) I hope someone puts www.colinfirth.com up because everytime I try to get it I get a message that it doesn't exist How strange :-/

I've just checked it and it works for me.

Ladies, we're trying to figure out a timetable for the Firth chatroom. Can everyone tell us where you are and what times are best for you to chat? If you feel uncomfortable doing this here (for whatever reasons) you can email me at nan@www.spring.net Thanks ;-)

I have been lurking for a few weeks and thought it was time to say hello. I, too, have the Firth Fever, and can never seem to get enough of the DB. :-) I had my latest movie fix on Sunday, when I saw SIL. I thoroughly enjoyed him as Wessex, even if he wasn't the romantic lead. I have come to think of CF as an actor who is leading man and character actor material: a very rare breed. I really respect CF for the intelligent scripts he selects. That aside, he is simply gorgeous! (I realize this i not news to any of you!) I am very impressed with the thoroughness of your info on him as well as the intelligent convesations about the DB. Many thanks for announcing the A&E interview this Sunday. I will set my alarm and coffee pot accordingly. BTW, my spelling is atrocious...pls forgive me, as I am lost without spellcheck....

Welcome Dear Lisa. Yes, he is gorgeous. That is really and understatement. That voice,those eyes that smile. *****sigh***** I can't wait for Sunday. Thank you for the information all of you who have written. I will make sure that I watch it. I can't wait to see him especially if it is live. Rita

I'm back from a week with the in-laws and just caught up on all postings. Karen(s), the picture is great! It reminds me of an older one, similar pose, but he had shorter hair and was too thin. Thanks again for sharing. I'm off in search of a theater showing SIL later today. I live in a big suburban area and was astonished to find that the major movie theaters around here are not showing it (yet?). It looks like they're hanging on to the kiddie pleasers (Babe, Bug's Life, etc.) while school is out. Not willing to take *any* chances, I'll drive to an obscure theater about 45 min. away. I'm *VERY* excited about Sunday's interview! Thanks for tipping us off; I know I never would have tuned in without advance notice. What a great treat for the new year! I agree with all who hope to hear of new projects. Go, Colin!

Nan, I'm available all weekend starting this second. Yeah!!! Oh, except for tomorrow evening. I'm on EST, as you know. I'd love to get a big Chat fest going. Whenever we do Chat is fine with me but I'd love to get together with yawl Sunday after Breakfast with the Arts. Lisa, your devotion is clear. My God, you've already got the acronym DB down pat. Your opinion of his acting skill is very sensible but here's hoping his pendulum starts swinging back to leading man roles.

Eileen, if you get to see SiL today amidst all those Rugrats, check in at 115 then. We've been discussing the ending.

Welcome Lisa. Always nice to hear others with wonderful things to say about our dear boy! Live??? I don't think so. According to someone who saw last week's interview with GP, it was apparent that the interview was taped during the press junket week. (You know, the people are wearing the same clothes and the backdrops are the same that you see in all the tape snippets.) Someone let me know (via telephone) when you decide to do a chat. Hopefully we can go downstairs or won't be at the boring doll show revue!!

Hi Lisa...good to have you on board...post often. Nan I'm on for any time in the Chat Room. I'm so tired of seeing that.... "no people in the reception room". I mean...it's embarassing for Colin too. Heide I think it would be great to meet on Sunday aft. the interview.Esp. for the UK fans. But let's have other times on Sunday too. BTW I just called A&E who said: "all interviews on Breakfast with the Arts are pre-taped" But that does not dilute the event for me one bit.

I can try also after the interview this Sunday.

(Lucie) I hope someone puts www.colinfirth.com up because everytime I try to get it I get a message that it doesn't exist The link is up on the main Drool page. You probabaly do what I usually do when I type in the url. Always seems to wind up: colonfirth.com!! An internal disorder of some sort. ;-) I will also tack on the NY Premiere footage where you can see Livia (behind Geoffrey Rush's head) and if you slo-mo and go frame by frame you can see the top of a well-known head making a turn. Would you like the film trailer as well? Several Colin moments.

Thank you Karen R, and thanks too for the great pic. I would love to see the NYC footage and the film trailer.

Lisa, I just wanted to thankyou very much for your positive and very sensible comments re our DB and his choice of roles, he is first and foremost an actor, the droolworthy bit is an added bonus.

I keep receiving calls from Italy, everybody is getting ready to start celebrating and it has put me in such a good mood. Thinking back to Colin and his birthday party, we did such a great job. I wish you all a very Happy New Year! Keep the Firth, Firthfully yours, and a very Firthful 1999! (Blame the champagne)

First of all, Happy New Year to all! Second, many thanks for your warm welcome. Heidi, the acronym DB was easy, as I have thought of him as my own DB (or, at least, my own Mr. D) ever since A&E first aired P&P2! The codes I cannot crack are the acronyms for CF's unreleased movies: SLOW and MLSF. I would be most grateful if someone could enlighten me! Are there any URLs to which any of you can refer me, so that I can learn more about the plots, co-stars, directors, etc? I also must thank Karen R for that amazing photo of CF. I happen to be drawn to a man's bone structure , and the planes of his face are now more chiseled as he nears his forties. Ha! who says women are not visual, too! :-) But, I must say it was the DB's voice which first left me weak in the knees! So richly deep and resonant. The thought of him reciting Hamlet blows the mind....

Lisa, You will get info on SLOW and MLSF if you log on to the FOF Roles Pages (it is linked to www.Colinfirth.com). Happy New Year!

Happy 1999. To all my Firth Friends. Hope everyone enjoys the last year of this century. Rita

HAPPY NEW YEAR to all Firth Friends !!!! For the german fans : Apartment Zero will be send TONIGHT at 00.30 on 3SAT !!!! Better late than never I thought ;-) Perhaps someone is reading this before the film starts !!!

(LisaJH) the planes of his face are now more chiseled as he nears his forties. Do we know how old he was in this picture? I assumed it was fairly recent based on KJArt's post, but after my husband's comments today I'm wondering. He and I went and saw SIL today (which we both really liked, BTW). He logged on to the computer when we got home - I have said photo up as wallpaper - and said "Wow, he's a lot younger here." I replied "No, it was just taken a few years ago" and his response was "well they sure must have air-brushed a lot then." Good heavens, what sacrilege! Hmmmmm, m ybe I've been paying just a bit too much attention to the DB lately :-).

Testing......am having major problems accessing the Spring. So SLOW...takes an age, and I almost give up. Certainly can't check more than one board. Anyone else having these problems? I'll see if I can post this message!

A few journalists commented (after interviewing him post-Darcy) that he looks much younger in the flesh. I think with darker hair and a grim expression, he can look older, but with his natural colouring and a softer expression, he looks younger! Testing again....this damned snail's pace is really irritating me!!!!! My service provider has just "upgraded" (whatever that means) but I must admit that the only problem I'm having is with the Spring. All other sites are okay!

Passionata, our mysterious friend... an ardent fan, but obviously not too geeky...:-) the correct address is www.colinfirth.com: these wretched things are case sensitive, you see... ;-) Rita, I'm afraid that 1999 is not the last year of this century. Those who are set to make loads of money out of the whole thing are busy creating a commercial hype: but 1999 is just the penultimate year out of 2000, just as number 19 is only the last but one in 20, and 199 is definitely not the last number in 200... and so on. So we will have to celebrate again at the end of 2000, when 2001 really begins the new century... and the traders will rub their hands in glee. (That is, unless you can convince me that there actually was the year 0...) Jana, the pic in question appears to be traceable back to about the early 1997. As far as publicity and fashion photography goes, all the pics (i.e. not only Colin's) are usually given a subtle treatment in which larger wrinkles and blemishes miraculously disappear... Happy New Year to all Firthfans and Droolers, wherever and whoever they are!;-)

Well, what do you know! www.Colin...etc works perfectly well... apologies to Passionata. Just goes to prove once again that I will obviously forever remain a cyberdumbo... BTW, this board is unbearably slow - is Count All Mushy at it again?

Hmmm...I haven't had any problems....at least for a couple of days. Anyone else? Passionata, thanks for directing Lisa to the Roles Page. You won't find better information on these unreleased films and in fact, on any of his films.

Happy New Year to all! I did manage to see SIL last Thursday at a rather large complex of theaters some distance away from where I live. Not too many rugrats! I really enjoyed the film. Of course, Colin was wonderful. He does look a bit rougher around the edges in the movie, but I remember reading a quote that he considers himself in "the pole position," able to alter his looks from very handsome to less depending on the role. Remember how slimy he looked as Simon in CoF? Re: best time for chatting - weekends are tough but I'll do my best to jump on tomorrow after Breakfast with the Arts. Bet we'll have lots to chat about :-)

Happy New Year to all fellow Firth fans! SIL had the 2nd highest per screen avg. last week-$8,8847 from the movies in the top 20-it was no. 12. It would have been higher if the shows didn't keep selling out. I was so upset when I couldn't see it. I saw You've Got Mail instead. It was no compensation, beleive me. At least it had the book cover of Mr. Darcy and plenty of P&P references. I'm planning on trying to see it tomorrow and I will make sure I go extra early-prob. sit in the parking lot for 2 hours. :-)) I'm thrilled that this movie is doing so well. I hope Colin continues to pick strong projects with complex characters whether it is a lead role or not. Let's face it, he already has had the lead role of a lifetime in Mr. Darcy. It will never get better than that. Evelyn, What would CF or JE fans do without you. You are a true gem! I hope you have a good phone rate. :-)

Jana, I WAS shocked earlier to learn that you actually let your husband see the famous photo. Sounds like he was shocked too??? If I put the pic on the wall my dear life companion would surely mock CF so badly that I just rather keep the pictures hidden away. (And what I would do if he started to cover walls with say Pamela Anderson pics is another story). Anyway, I wish all of you fellow droolers a wonderful last (but one) year of this century!!! ps. I�m very excited about the interview tomorrow even though it�s out of my reach...really looking forward to hearing what you�ll think of it. By the way, what comes to DB�s natural wrinkles, I love them. I�m not so keen on thinking of him as a beautiful boy, but as an ADULT male with life experience....oooh.....(blush)

First, Happy New Year ladies. I've been doing the family holiday thing, so I'm just now getting to your posts. Just to clarify my question of a couple of days ago--I wanted to know what times are best for people to meet in general. For example, I tend to be a night owl so any time after 9pm EST is fine with me. However, that time isn't very good for those in Europe. I'm trying to figure out which time is a possibility for everyone. BTW, I can meet in chat on Sunday morning after the interview. See you there ;-)

Jana, what is it with husbands and CF? I am happy to see that I am not the only one. BTW I hope to meet you too next month in LA, I believe Winter will set it up. I am looking forward to the interview tomorrow and will try Chat afterwards. A domani.

In case I�ve counted hours correctly I�ll be doing my night shift at work by the time the A & E program ends (according to Marcia H:s timetable). Possibly can�t join in the chat although I�d love to. There IS another problem: I don�t think I could produce English fast enough to chat! I really hate language flaws, wish you could chat in Finnish....:-))

Elena, your English is very good and I am sure that I speak for everyone when say that we shall be very pleased to tell you whatever you want to know regarding the interview or the following chat.

and also Elena I forgot to mention that Evelyn is kindly sending me a video of the interview so if you would like a copy just email me.

Thanks, Ann, you�re very kind. Let�s see now what our sisters in Firth will think about the interview. I just hope Colin will be asked the right questions, the ones we would ask! ( But I�m afraid he wouldn�t answer all the questions I �d ask him if I could.....;-))

Happy New Year everyone! Chat times (Nan) Just to clarify my question of a couple of days ago--I wanted to know what times are best for people to meet in general. For example, I tend to be a night owl so any time after 9pm EST is fine with me. However, that time isn't very good for those in Europe. I'm trying to figure out which time is a possibility for everyone. I have checked a time zone schedule and it says: 9.00 am =+9 in Australia 12.00 Midnight MEZ (Middle Europe) is 11.00 =-1 in GMT (UK and Portugal), and 6.00 pm =-6 Eastern Time, and 2.00 pm =-10 Pacific Time. Couldn't find the zone for Hawaii, but I assume it must be 2 hours or more ahead of PT. ------ Btw, it's enough if you type in www.firth.com or, if you use Netscape even a mere (?)" firth " works :-).

Chat Room Times: Perhaps we could have different weekday and weekend times. This way,at least everyone would have a weekly shot.

Regarding Time Zones. I am chronologically impaired (as some of you know) and this site has been a life-saver: Global Metric Time Service

(Myretta) I am chronologically impaired Of course! I should have remembered that. Damned short term memory...

Anyone notice how 'The Big Chill' is playing before the program? Isn't it ironic...

Look forward to hearing about the interview...let's hope he's asked some decent questions. There was a so-called "interview" with CF in one of our trashier women's weeklies which I bought, then chucked in the bin! It's all re-cycled stuff, re-worded, bits added.....comments on Darcy and Regency underwear, hitting his nose on the girder in the tank, not liking playing love scenes with actresses he's involved with....you get the drift! Also CF's quotes on playing Wessex from the Miramax pack. But it starts off by saying that at 37 (wrong!) CF thinks he is too old to play romantic leads, and he realised this after being turned down (as too old) by John Madden to play Will Shakespeare. "I realised I would have been terrible..Joe Fiennes was chosen instead of me". GREAT PR for Colin! He may have made sometongue in cheek remarks somewhere which the mag picked up on, or completely invented! He's also quoted as saying that he has absolutely no idea what work he'll do next but he "is excited at the p ospect of what's possible and where it will take me" (which sound promising, if this is a genuine quote!). All this is sandwiched between an article on Pamela Anderson, and another on why Anthea Turner (minor TV celeb)wants Grant's baby!!!!! MY new year's resolution is not to look at these kind of magazines!!!

I thought we were going to meet at Chat today... The only ones there were Renate and I. Where is everybody? Or did I get the times wrong? Anyway, Happy New Year to all of you, newcomers and oldtimers! Love you! Happy New Year Colin and Livia! And Arami, why not look at this Y2000 in the other opposite perspective, like, let's party twice, then, and have fun! If we want to, not because of the hype but taking advantage of it. What do you say? Also, thanks Nan, for volunteering to work for my cyber-shower. I'm sure your input will be appreciated by all here!

If you would like to write to A&E and thank them for the interview the email address for Viewer Relations is: viewr1@aetv.com Ask them to show more of CF's films. I believe they aired "Tumbledown" when it was first released. The URL for A&E is: http://www.aetv.com

Text of Interview on Breakfast with the Arts: Interviewer - Kimberly Whitleigh KW: Welcome to Breakfast with the Arts CF: Thank you. KW: Shakespeare in Love is a fun and funny film and you get to play the villain. CF: Absolutely. We have to keep telling people that it's fun, don't we? A film about Shakespeare - you know - stay away. KW: How did you first hear about the script? CF: Oh, a long, long time ago. It's been around for many years and I was, they were, I don't know, they were toying with me or I was toying with them and about 1992 there was a completely different set of people set to do it. And it's just been, I suppose, either on a shelf or in and out of production since then. So it just came back in different form this time. It was Wessex. I would have preferred it had been Shakespeare (sardonic look-KW laughs). It was John Madden and it was the most incredible c st. I mean it's just not something I wanted to say no to. KW: Was it something that you read and right away you said "This is it. I'm taking this role."? CF: No, it wasn't quite like that to be honest. It was something I read and right away said it's absolutely brilliant and unique and I didn't have any idea how it could work. I didn't know whether it could work. I thought we will have to find a convention for this that I've not seen before. You can't, I mean if you step over into arch Shakespearianism, we're dead. If you try to modernize it in the kind of, you know, there's that kind of tacky updating you get, deliberately try to make something releva t and sellable. I thought we're dead if we try to do that as well. KW: You worked with such extraordinary actors. It was one of those films where you're watching and you're saying, "Oh, I know that guy. Oh I know him, he was in..." You may not quite remember the names. CF: That's right. KW: But you've seen the faces. CF: I'm one of those people (makes a funny face, KW laughs). It's great. I mean you don't know. You think you might turn up on the set and they'll all be going to be scratching their eyes out- each other's eyes out- and vying for position and, you know, competing and climbing on top of each other. It wasn't like that at all. People loved the material and were getting on with it and treating each other surprisingly respectfully. KW: And your love interest, Gwyneth Paltrow? What was it like working with her? CF: It was great working with her. I don't know about love interest. It was financial interest. KW: Right, exactly. CF: She was, it was great. I think we would not have been a happy company had Gwyneth and Joe not been great. They were... KW: Great chemistry between the two. Cf: Isn't there? Absolutely. No, it was a very, very positive environment. It's not one where we were all permanently celebrating and having fun. It was a tough job to do, really. I remember marveling at John Madden having to deal with 500 people and these 3 or 4 cameras and animals and comedians (little laugh). You know, it was an extraordinary, unwieldy thing with a kind of language we really hadn't seen before in a film, I don't think. KW: When I spoke with Gwyneth, she said she lost it a few times working with you. She just laughed and it was very unprofessional of her but she had a good time. CF: I know. I was trying to be serious (ironic look - KW laughs). I was exploring my menace. I was experimenting with my snarling, fierce and menacing look and I discovered my comedy in doing so. I would come out and think, "Right, now I'm going to be dangerous" and everyone would fall about laughing. So you know, I thought, "Keep quiet about that. Don't say it on a television interview and maybe people will think you've got a comic side." Seriously, it's fun playing somebody that's there to spoil everything. You know, the boo-hiss character. KW: And it's a fun character to play. CF: Yes. KW: Now Colin, tell me about the Fiennes brothers. In The English Patient, Ralph Fiennes steals the girl and now in SiL, Ralph Fiennes' younger brother Joseph Fiennes, he's after your girl. CF: I know. KW: What's this? CF: What's that? I mean if I want my career to go on, I'm going to have to find some more Fiennes brothers. Yeah, I had noticed that. However, any similarity between them basically stops at their last name. You know, I was in no way reminded of Ralph by working with Joe. KW: Had you worked with Joe before? CF: No. I got on fantastically with both of them. I have huge admiration for both of them as actors but I couldn't compare them.

KW: You've been in a fair number of period pieces. Is that by choice or coincidence? CF: Coincidence. I don't notice particularly. I think far too much is made of this separation between period and modern. I mean, if you look at it, everything is period, I mean, if it's only last year. KW: True. The past is... CF: Yeah. The past is there immediately and when does it become period? I annoyed my mother by calling a 50's drama a period drama. You know, it's Terence Rattigan and I said I'm doing this period thing. KW: And she said? CF: Period? Terence Rattigan? I said, "Yeah, 1952." It's not period. It's just the other day! (makes a face like one does when imitating one's mother) KW: It depends on who it is. CF: Yeah. You put on a different costume. There is an artifice to every single convention and pretending that it's today is just as phony in a way as pretending that it's 100 years ago. We're still creating a world which is for the purpose of fiction and drama, which is not a real one. So you know every single one of those examples is just a way of interpreting ourselves in some way either for entertainment or to understand something or to manipulate something but, you know, if it's set 200 years ago t really is sort of, I think we're interpreting the present in disguise in some way. I don't really feel the past is this other thing to do dramas. I did a film set in 1989. Was that period? KW: (giggles) Yes. It depends on who's looking at it. Let's talk a little bit about Jane Austen's Pride & Prejudice aired right here on A&E and did very well, I might add. That series really brought you to America's attention. Would you say that P&P was your big break? CF: No, I mean, yes and no. I've had a lot of big breaks and then things go back to normal and there's a big break and it goes back to normal. I think it's actually quite good that things work that way. You're always filled with expectations and then things (don't?) tuorn out the way you planned. I didn't think P&P would turn out to be a huge hit and yet it was and I'm sort of, I just sort of sit back and watch it all happen now really. KW: It's huge. It's all over the world. CF: Yeah, yes it is. I do find it absolutely extraordinary. Just as always I thought this is a nice script, let's have a go at this. And as far as you're concerned, you finish the thing, you walk away from it and what happens to it after that is someone else's business. And in this case, everybody took it on. I had to go back and look at it, actually. I didn't feel I had much to do with it. It was like this big party going on where I wasn't there. I had to go and look and go, "what happened?" Wha did I do right, you know. There's a huge amount that's always out of your hands, I think. Interviewer thanks him for appearing. Colin gives a huge smile.

Thanks Heide...a real gift. We can talk about this till the next time he surfaces....Maybe we should have a new board devoted to the Interview. (only kidding) Bethan....I waited for you at the Chat Room....for TWO HOURS. Where were you? My bums are sore and I am leaving now.

Thanks, Heide. I think Colin has a similar problem to me: his thoughts seem to be racing ahead of his words. As a result he seems to speak in a kind of mental shorthand... Sweet, really, but it takes a bunch of Firthmaniacs to appreciate and understand him fully. And, Gi, I certainly don't mind celebrating as many times as it takes! Your bums, Heide? LOL - how many have you got? Yes, I know the dictionary says "Brit. slang, buttocks", but you don't say "my butts", do you? ;-) (Or maybe you do - I'll be interested to learn. My knowledge is far from complete...;-)) And Sunday at 11 am on the East coast of America? The Brits would still be in bed - it was only 6 am here... I think there was some kind of misunderstanding about this chat room fest - Nan was only trying to collate the best times as a guideline for new users...

Right. Chronologically impaired. Apologies yet again - just checked with the time site Myretta so kindly posted a link to. All right, shoot me. Or pass another bottle of red wine...~~~~~~~8-@~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ijust wanted to thank Bethan for alerting us to the A&E interview, Heide for typing out the transcript and everyone for making the Chat so much fun.

Dear Heide, thanks so much for your elaborate transcript of the interview. Reading it (and your remarks about his ironic looks etc.) was almost as exciting as I guess it has been to watch the interview. He sounds so enthusiastic and sympathetic, like a young man who loves his job and loves to talk about it, actually. Great! I think the interview wasn�t very good, though, I mean the interviewer. I find that this KW didn�t always quite get his meaning and she couldn�t bring him to say anything very essential. Too bad because we all know what Colin is really capable of verbally and intellectually.

(Arami)Your bums, Heide? LOL how many have you got? Yes, I know the dictionary says "Brit. slang,buttocks", but you don't say "my butts", do you? ;-) (Or maybe you do - I'll be interested to learn. Point of information, Arami....it was me who said that...and I mean't to say "buns" which is American slang...and sorry,... we do use the plural... One bun= one cheek :-) I am not familar with the British term. I alerted our Firthfriends in UK that we would meet at 3pm UK Time. It was great fun... a little chaotic at times. We had 15 on line at one point. Including Karen on the phone and me typing her comments with one hand. Nothing beats going live right after an event. Thanks Nan for setting the chat room up. We still haven't set up a weekday/weekend chat time though

Well, I just got to look at my taping of *the* interview. He does wear a wedding ring....and he seems to have a few nervous tics...or else he is allergic to something and trying not to sneeze. But, He is devillishly adorable, is he not!!! I was half expecting to hear him mention the Internet fans when he was speaking about the P&P phenomenon. ! sigh ! Sorry I could not join you at 5:30 am for a chat. Ray would Not have understood!

I was half expecting to hear him mention the Internet fans when he was speaking about the P&P phenomenon. ! sigh ! He might not have said it Marcia, but he certainly knows it. Colin did seem to have several nervous ticks, which at 38 is kind of endearing. Strange for an actor though, to be shy with a somewhat inept interviewer. In any case, it is so wonderful to see him do live (sort to speak) TV. We do crave it. It was a pleasure meeting many of you in Chat: we must do it again!

Sorry, Evelyn. Just never heard anyone say "freezing my butts/bums": buns is a different matter. Bum, bun, who cares, anyway. Hic. :-) (Elena) we all know what Colin is really capable of verbally and intellectually. ? Elena: would you care to elaborate? Just assume I'm completely in the dark and need enlightening (the way I carry on these days it's very easy to imagine, anyway!) (Marcia) he seems to have a few nervous tics...or else he is allergic to something and trying not to sneeze. Aha. But can we ever see these tics when he's performing in character? He is devillishly adorable, is he not!!! Goes without saying.

My, wasn't that interview lovely? I know my passion for CF would never have kept up this long if he didn't seem so humble and charming in real life. I think I must log off now to go and rewind again. (Moon) Jana, what is it with husbands and CF? I am happy to see that I am not the only one. BTW I hope to meet you too next month in LA, I believe Winter will set it up. Well, my husband is pretty tolerant of my compulsion but teases unmercifully. Winter emailed me about your visit, Moon. Looking forward to seeing you in LA! Hopefully I will be in town and not roaming about Asia for my job. And if we're really lucky, maybe FP will be showing when you're here and we can see those grey undies on the big screen. (or should I say Marcia's grey undies, oh honorable button snipper?)

Heide, great minds think alike ;-) Here was the transcript I was working on today... http://www.firth.com/html/bwaintvw.html

Oh Nan...you really" hit one out of the ballpark" this time...text and accompanying images...what a treat. I've Bookmarked it.May I post it on RoP Virtual views? (Arami)Just never heard anyone say "freezing my butts/bums": buns is a different matter. Actually, when one talk about freezing one is more apt to say: "I'm freezing my ass off":-)) (Like Karen and Laura are in Chicago as we speak)

(Evelyn)May I post it on RoP Virtual views? I did, honey...right under yours ;-)

(Jana2)And if we're really lucky, maybe FP will be showing when you're here and we can see those grey undies on the big screen. (or should I say Marcia's grey undies, oh honorable button snipper?) Indeed =) Nan, thank you!!!

Hello all, and best wishes for the New Year. I hope you had restful and enjoyable Xmases. I got back to New York on Saturday and have already been to see SIL for a SECOND time. I don't think I'm becoming Firthified - I just had some friends in town who hadn't seen it and wanted to. It loses little on second viewing. Nice to be back, Ben p.s. as two cheeks make a face, so one bum comprises two buns.

I managed to see most of the interview "real time" yesterday, but I taped it also for "further study" (all of you would understand, right?). I watched it again today and now understand many comments made during the chat yesterday about his tics. Perhaps his nose was running! As the interview progressed, he seemed to settle down. I thought his answer to the "period piece" question was thoughtful and intelligent, even if he jumbled his words every now and then. He also included a comical statement in near y every response. Didn't you just love the way he tossed his head after he said "boo hiss character?" I agree with you, Jana, he really is humble, charming and funny. On a related topic: saw full page SiL ad in NY Times yesterday. Small pictures of cast members were included towards bottom. No Colin :-( Thought again that pics were of GG nominees but Ben's face is there. Grrrrrrrr!!

#1: I was very disappointed at not meeting with you in Chat (I did meet Renate there, which was quite nice). #2: thank you Heide for your transcription, loved to read it. Thanks also to Nan, but I haven't seen yours yet, dear, I'm going there directly. #3: Have I wished you all a Happy New Year, newcomers and oldtimers? :-) #4: Welcome back, Ben!

Thanks ever so much Heide and Nan for the transcripted versions of the A&E interview. Even though I saw and taped the interview, it was nice to read the text as well. CF certainly exuded wit, charm, and intelligence. I also thought that his comments were thoughtful and spontaneous: quite a contrast to the journalists who in the past have described his comments as guarded and rehearsed. IMHO, his warmth and playfulness really came across...perhaps in real life he is more like Lizzie than Darcy :-) It was so much fun chatting with several of you yesterday in real time. Already, I can tell you are a great group of droolers! In the meantime, I shall rewind my video of the interview for the umpteenth time.... such shameless devotion. Mmmmmmm. P.S. Thanks Passionata for the tip on the URL for the DB's unreleased films. I hadn't released that WOM had been renamed.

Nan, I've been to your transcription and it is great, thanks for the lovely photos. He's at his best when looking down, head slightly bent to his right shoulder.

Just to say that loading time for the Spring still seems very, very slow....so slow that I can only really check out this board. I don't know if anyone else is having the same problem, particularly in the UK. Chat is rather difficult for me because the PC and phone seem to be in constant use in our household! What is it with Colin's "nervous tics" which everyone seems to comment on?!!! It sounds like the Prince Charles syndrome....he always used to rub his nose when being interviewed, and also gesticulated a lot with his hands. Sign of basic shyness and unease in public, which can be overcome (normally through exposure to more and more interviews!) My son saw the latest Startrek movie yesterday and told me that there was a trailer for a film about Shakespeare..."a rip-off of Romeo and Juliet". He thinks he'll go and see it!!

What a holiday weekend! A fabulous Colin interview and a huge turnout for CF Chat. Thank you, Heide and Nan, for the fabulous transcripts and the added bonus of the snappies. [for the first few pages, Nan, I thought you were editing out the hands on the face stuff--has anyone counted how many times he touched some part of his face?] Thanks to Evelyn, I got to put in my two cents for the Chat, but wish the computer downstairs had been working (so will my tenant, when he gets home and finds close to 3 feet of snow up against his front door and no way to get back into his apartment. I subscribe to the "don't get mad, get even" school.) Will be putting the interview tape together as soon as I receive the E! Interview from Sue (who knows, maybe today) and then off to the post office it goes for PAL conversion and subsequent mailing to AnnW. I'm sure all you ladies will enjoy it as much as we did here in the US. I'm definitely going to write to A&E (as Evelyn posted) to thank them and to ask if they can show us those other *period* pieces that Colin alluded to: "Deep Blue Sea" and "Fever Pitch" the 1989 one. ;-) BTW, if Colin was being considered for the role of Shakespeare back in 1992, he might still have been considered too old. The movie was set in 1593 and Shakespeare was about 28 years old then. Per Tom Stoppard, Ralph Fiennes was also considered and would have been tooo old (an unbelievable) as well. There were certain constraints on the year when the movie was set. SiL isn't history but it doesn't contradict any established facts. It had to be sometime before S wrote Romeo and Juliet and Twelfth Nig t (which was several years later). This is the second time I recall Colin using the term "boo-hiss." He referred to John Malkovich's Valmont as making boo-hiss faces in Dangerous Liaisons.

Welcome Back Ben...(A bum has a different meaning for us...as you know) Saw John Castle a few days before Christmas in an A&E Mystery. ********* I need some clarification, folks....when CF said in yesterday's interview (which I refer to as Super Sunday) Re;P&P being his Big Break: ..I've had lots of big breaks and then things go back to normal....You're always filled with expectations and then things don't turn out the way you planned..." Obviously, he must have mean't VALMONT which was his first big US film. But I wonder if he also alluded to LOST EMPIRES for BBC.What other film had the exposure that P&P had. He sure wants to dump Mr. Darcy and like he says ...everybody took it on.. That means US.

Italics should have ended after end quotes... and I'm using end tags. Stop it Count Almasy!

Nan, thank-you, I�m very impressed. While waiting for a chance to see the video, your beautiful work on the text and snappies is really something. And so is Colin....like I said back there in the chat I�m almost afraid of seeing the video �cos I fear it can make me fall for him even more than I already have. (Getting serious??). Yes, chatting with you people was great yesterday even though I couldn�t stay for very long, just put in a few lines. Nice to get in such a real time touch with some of you, I enjoyed it tremendously, plus hearing fresh news about the interview. Still I DO wish that the big fun of chatting won�t reduce the energy of this board in the long run. Arami, you kidding? I don�t exactly know what you�re getting at.....I think the interview was lovely what comes to Colin but I just know from his older interviews that it could�ve been much better if the interviewer had been better. In other words, I�m desperately waiting for printed interviews where he�s really asked about his career and thoughts, not just to promote the latest movie, which was probably the main idea of this interview.There, enlightened?!

Big breaks: Another Country, Valmont, P&P. (Maybe AMITC too.) Any others?

(Ann) Big breaks: Another Country, Valmont, P&P. (Maybe AMITC too.) Any others? I know...I know...WE all think his entire Filmography is outstanding. But how many people saw AC, AMITC ....I'm thinking BIG audiences... pre-P&P.Not just UK.

Wings of Fame co-starring Peter O Toole. Nan, so good of you. Will your studies take you away from us again? Bethan, I just up-graded to AOL4 and I too am having the worst time logging on to Spring.

Jana, I brought FP back with me from the UK this summer, I can always lend it to you. Do you have a PAL/NTSE VCR?

Big breaks: Tumbledown! And no, not all of his films are outstanding... Arami, you kidding? Elena, I'm always kidding! ;-) The written interviews are often given special treatment by the writers: a little padding here, a tiny embellishment there... I'm always sceptical and learn from reading between the lines... Nevertheless some interviewers have mentioned that Colin relaxes considerably once cameras and tape recorders are switched off. Apparently he is a different man in private. Which leads me straight to Ben! Hi, there, welcome back, happy New Year to you too. And what news do you bring us from your travels? Yes, I for one remember your pledge... Let's have it, then - in precise detail, please! ;-)

Hurray! Welcome back, Ben!!! Yes, do tell us about your visit back home. Have you done any valuable spying for us? Any news or sightings of Lady Ehle?! ;-) (Arami)Apparently he is a different man in private. Yes, this is certainly true. But I also have the feeling that he might've relaxed in later interviews. The A&E interview may have occurred earlier in the day, if this happened to be on a press junket day (which it looks like).

I forgot my manners.....thanks very much for the transcripts, Heide and Nan! The "big breaks" comment is interesting.....I hope that at long last, he won't be disappointed and his expectations (and ours!)will be realised! By the way, "The Deep Blue Sea" is my favourite CF work...don't know why, just is! And it's very respectable...something his mum could watch!!! Welcome back everyone!

Nan, thanks so much for getting those snappies up so fast. The sheer number of them takes my breath away not to mention the content. Okay, call me pushy, but any chance you could put a few enlarged ones up so the girls who haven't seen the interview yet could possibly see one of those "nervous tics" or how about one of those killer smiles? Good question about Colin's "big breaks", Evelyn. I think The English Patient could have been a big break for him but for one reason or another it didn't work out. Upon further viewing of this interview and the ineptness (as Moon succinctly put it) of Kimberly or Timberly or whatever the interviewer's name was - Colin appeared to actually be helping her out at some points when she seemed to let her questions sort of drift off without finishing them. He'd expand on his comments whenever she seemed to be floundering. For instance when she asked if he had worked with Joe before..she messed her question up a bit but Colin took it from her before she looked too bad. Am I stretching here? In summation, he seems like a very generous interviewee. Welcome back, Ben. And how is Mr. Castle?

(Ben) Firthified Oooh, I like that word! (Gi)He's at his best when looking down, head slightly bent to his right shoulder. Yes, I like that one quite well myself. I'm glad someone else noticed it ;-) (Karen) has anyone counted how many times he touched some part of his face? LOL! It actually crossed my mind but then I thought that perhaps it was a little too obsessive, even for me. As it is I'm always teetering on the abyss so I try to catch myself from falling in ;-p (Moon) Will your studies take you away from us again? Probably :-( (Moon) Bethan, I just up-graded to AOL4 and I too am having the worst time logging on to Spring. AOL is evil--makes me crazy. (Elena) Arami, you kidding? (Arami) Elena, I'm always kidding! ;-) I'll vouch for that ;-)

Sorry I left so abruptly. I was out of commission with tennis elbow--from using the mouse too much. But the place I was freelancing was ergonomically incorrect, so it's their fault, so I don't have to pay for the therapy, and they have to pay me, etc. And I'm still not up to snuff in the elbow department, but I wanted to check in here. On the heels of doctor's orders, I was helping a friend on a project. (It's always so easy to see what's wrong with someone else's work ;-)) That was a total surprise, a frantic call iin the middle of shooting, so what was a girl to do? Back in town today. Skimmed the postings; oh my goodness. Congrats to Winter and everyone else. Spoke to Karen today and hope to read more soon. Smooches.

Bethan, I just up-graded to AOL4 and I too am having the worst time logging on to Spring. go back to Netscape. I like Explorer 4. but Spring doesn't ...so I use Netscape only for Spring.Big Pain. Thanks for all the Big Breaks inputs...don't think you caught my drift. Never mind. not all of his films are outstanding. I was being facetitous...(I'm always kidding too, Arami) Though I dolike all of them for one reason or another.

I've been out of town for an entire week with no way to log on. Aghhh! I find this reference to his "tics" interesting because I first noticed them in AMITC and attributed them to brilliant acting at the time. The very same 'nose-pulling' motion was used as Birkin waited for an answer to the back-doorbell of the Keaches. Later in the same film, that raising of the arm to the back of the neck was shown as he waited for Keach to come down after viewing the wall-painting close up. I guess he just know h w to adapt his own nervous motions when appropriate to the character... I really enjoyed the interview and was most grateful to see it up in transcript form so soon!! Firth-class, guys!

(Ann) Big breaks: Another Country, Valmont, P&P. (Maybe AMITC too.) Any others? (Evelyn) I know...I know...WE all think his entire Filmography is outstanding. But how many people saw AC, AMITC ....I'm thinking BIG audiences... pre-P&P.Not just UK. } Well, I was thinking about those roles that were important, or should have been, in his career: Another Country (because it was the first), Valmont (because it was Milos Forman, directing his first movie after Amadeus), and P&P (because that's when Britain--and we--went wild for him.)

Wow! The Board is hopping today. Amazing what one good interview will do :-) (Moon) Jana, I brought FP back with me from the UK this summer, I can always lend it to you. Do you have a PAL/NTSE VCR? That's very sweet of you, Moon. Thanks but I already have a copy that was converted from PAL which I've watched numerous times. But that doesn't stop me from wanting to see FP on the BIG screen! (Karen) The movie was set in 1593. SiL isn't history but it doesn't contradict any established facts. One thing I've wondered about but have been too lazy to go look at an old history book... Wasn't 1593 a bit early for tobacco farmers to be set up in the colonies? My recollection is that was more a 1600 and on thing, but it's been years since I've read any history at all. Anyone know?

Ooooh goody, after days of near-torpor, Spring now seems to be back up to speed! I was able to re-read the interview transcript...and I must say I really like his reponses, thoughtful and amusing. The comments about "what is period" and the fact that "there is an artifice to every convention" are particularly good. Also his remarks on not really knowing how a good script can turn out...the interpretation depends so much on the director. Interesting stuff!

(Jana), Wasn't 1593 a bit early for tobacco farmers to be set up in the colonies? What about Sir Walter Raleigh? I beleive he had something to do with tobacco back then. Evelyn, I am planning to go back to AOL 3, it is the lesser of two evils. Try fast forwarding or rewinding with the the image on the VCR, the nervous ticks are plentiful. Firth-class and Firthified, I like those, I wonder how many more we can come up with? BTW, Ben, I too want to hear all about your trip. Did you chat with dear mum again? I hope you did us proud and brought back some Firth tidbits.

Cheryle, nice to hear from you. I will be in LA next month and will attend the Keith Jarrett Trio concert (again), there is nothing like him solo though. I hope you get well enough soon to join us regularly.

(Heide)Okay, call me pushy...one of those "nervous tics" or how about one of those killer smiles? Okay, pushy chick...here you go ;-p

Karen, I hope you get the E! innterview tape today (Tues.). I mailed it last Wednesday because I know oversea fans eagerly await your compilation tape. The mail must be v. slow (what else is new) due to New Year's Day. SIL finally cracked the top 10 and in limited release too. It must be all the Firth fans out in full force.

Nan, great snappy of the wedding ring;) I don't think there was a Virginia in 1593, Jamestown was founded in 1607. I liked the interview, hated the interviewee! Welcome back from your holidays, Ben. I'm glad you are firthified;)

Hmmmm................ Feb 7, 2036, perhaps the Y2K virus???

Hi, I was out today and came across UK "NOW" Magazine dated 7th January, and as there was a picture of Colin on the front cover with the caption "Mr Darcy becomes Mr. Nasty", naturally I bought it.However, I think it must be the magazine Bethan referred to last week as only being fit for the bin as there was nothing new only recycled news, comment that Colin would have liked to have played Shakespeare and we knew that already and that at the age of 37, he considers himself too old to play romantic leads, what rubbish, he gets better as he gets older. Still I suppose it is good to see him on the front cover of anything after all this time of no Colin. If this is the magazine to which you referred Bethan how on earth did you know about it as it only came out today and as it said it is dated 7th January, 1999.

Oops, in my last post I meant to write *transcribed* in lieu of *transcripted*....my language skills sometimes take a curious turn at the onset of migraines.....Anyway, now that a few days have passed since the A&E interview, what frustrates me most is that there was no mention of CF's forthcoming (Firthcoming?) projects. Aside from the two films in the can, surely he must have some new projects lined up. Or perhaps you are all ahead of me on this. I hope one day we in the U.S. will have the pleasure of seeing him act on Broadway or the like.... Regarding CF's comment about being to old to play romantic leads at 37, I, too, think that he still has the ability to play such roles. Now if he were a woman, I might agree with him, as men over 35 usually are paired with actresses in their 20s. Being over 35 myself, such ageism has always annoyed me, but that is another topic.....

This has become a busy place, between us newbies joining and finally some fresh Colin now being served! I also thought Colin was great in the interview compared to the poor interviewer. I suppose she asked the requisite questions and we got much more than normal for a film promo (usually reduced to mere sound bites), but she was quite nervous. How about her response to his comment "I did a film set in 1989, is that period?" Sorry, I'm being catty (meow). I'm sure I couldn't have done it! RE: fun of chat taking away from this board - don't think it will, we all seem to live in too many time zones to have a big chat regularly. It was fun, though. Ooohhh, Lisa, Firth on Broadway! One could only hope, couldn't one? I'm hoping for more news when SiL makes its British debut. He doesn't seem to be getting much attention/mention here in the States, but after last year, a little sure goes a long way!

THANK YOU, NAN!! ...In explanation, Nan was good enough to translate the scan of the drawing that ultimately elicited the now infamous "2 Karens" photo. Having never attempted this before, let's see if it works:

Isn't it about time to start compiling a dictionary of Firthdoms? Here's a start. Firthification (n.) - (1) the involuntary act of becoming obsessed with C.F. (2) the name given to posters and pictures of CF on bedroom walls. See also to "firthify". Firthify (vb, tr.) to adorn a bedroom wall with posters of CF (ent., corruption of fortify), e.g. "it has been three weeks and still my new bedroom remains sadly unfirthified". Recently extended to apply to wallpaper for Windows95. Firthcoming (n.), (1) a keenly anticipated television event involving a minimum of three seconds with CF on the screen, (2) (vulgar). See slang dictionary. To give Firth (vb.), to worry your friends with rambling, wild-eyed obsessive musings about CF; see also "The Virgin Firth", (mythical.) Ehlefication (n.); the "sister act" of Firthification.

Sorry - me again. It is for you lot to carry on with DoF (Dictionary of Firthdoms); my duty is to the DoE (...of Ehl'isms), to which I will add periodically. hence, "Ehle-mouthed" (adj.), struck dumb by the allure of JE. Winter - what was my pledge?

My desktop wallpaper has been ehlefied and firthified. (I, too, believe in equal-time). Now, if we can just get some interviewers to mention the fact that JE did also co-star in P&P we would have it made for equality :-) Kimberley and the interviewee kept commenting on the great cast of SIL...but when it came to P&P....silencio.

Sorry - me again. It is for you lot to carry on with DoF (Dictionary of Firthdoms); my duty is to the DoE (...of Ehl'isms), to which I will add periodically. hence, "Ehle-mouthed" (adj.), struck dumb by the allure of JE. Winter - what was my pledge?

Hello ! Now I have seen "A Thousand Acres" on VCR and I liked it very much. CF looked fantastic (and so thin I think). But I really had to smile as he talked for the first time, because he had an "american" accent :-) But his voice was as absolutely wonderful as always. I haven t seen the interview (too bad) but I really love to read about it (Thank you to Heide) ! Does anyone know when SIL will be shown in Germany ?? (Maybe Renate ??)

Great picture Karen2! Ben, I think you've had too much time on your hands! Now when one is Ehlefied, is it the same feeling or emotions that are felt when one is Firthified? I mean the arousals, are they the same?

Firthcoming (n.)... (2) (vulgar). See slang dictionary. LOL, Ben! But If you think it'll let you off the hook, you're mistaken. Are you teasing us, waiting, expecting us to beg you for the titbits you may - or may not - be bringing? Right then, my guess is that you haven't got much to give us... your mum and Mr Castle have refused point-blank to discuss Colin. * * * Bethan, Ann W - I think you're a bit too harsh on the poor little rag-mag: it's aimed at women who have no access to advance information like we do here on the net. For most of them this may be a revealing and informative article, even though it clearly seems to have been concocted by making extracts from one or more standard press handouts/releases made available by Colin's agent and/or the film press office. But its real significance is that it appears to be the start of the British promo drive in a run up to the SIL premiere in London. The best ones may be yet to come - although I don't expect Colin will reveal anything vastly different from what he's already said to the American interviewers.

Laura, have you ever been Firthralled? Thanks for the laughs Ben! Yours Firthfully, etc, etc

Sorry - me again. It is for you lot to carry on with DoF (Dictionary of Firthdoms); my duty is to the DoE (...of Ehl'isms), to which I will add periodically. hence, "Ehle-mouthed" (adj.), struck dumb by the allure of JE. Winter - what was my pledge?

Bloody hell. Why does this stupid site keep cloning my messages? Am I doing something wrong?

(Ben)Winter - what was my pledge? Not so much of a pledge but a casual reference to being invited to one of those swanky dinners (or did I just completely misunderstand?). Run into any noteable actors/actresses? Bloody hell. Why does this stupid site keep cloning my messages? HA! Count Almushy has now taken a liking to Ben! Arami, you are finally safe (for the time being... :-)) Let me add to the dictionary: Ehlicity: n1: The state of being happy due to infatuation with actress Jennifer Ehle. Firthilize: v 1: To engage in detailed, analytical discussion or thought, most often after CF's performances or interviews. e.g. "Upon viewing 'Shakespeare in Love' we spent a few hours firthlizing in the chat room."

out damn italics, out!

I'll try to help you there...but I'm not sure it'll work. Apart from cloning posts, the date is still wrong and that signifies a touch and go situation. BTW, I think I know how cloning happens. You can't blame anyone: it's a program fault as well, IMO. Ben, stop teasing and distracting us! Firthfully, Ehlecitly, reveal all at once, please!

BTW, forgot to explain to Ben and all newbies: Count All Mushy is our resident ghost (first identified by Renate, I think) responsible for all these program mishaps ;-)

Firthralled, hmmmm... I like that one. Yes, I have been Firthralled. Similar to and enthrallment, but headier;)

Thank you, Nan. Just wanted the others to get a glimpse of what to expect when that tape Karen, Evelyn, Sue (who else?) are putting together comes to your town. KJArt, what a terrific picture! I wish I had that talent. I'd be drawing pictures of Colin all day. Ben, I'm afraid my bedroom walls remain sadly unfirthified. Wouldn't want company to feel deflated (I mean defeated) the moment they walk through the door. Still, I remain completely "colinized" in my heart. Sabine, so glad you saw 1000 Acres. We're really going to have to talk about this one soon, ladies, considering how many have seen it now. I think I may have to put it in the old VCR soon just to watch him jogging again. A little bit of sweat never did anybody any harm. I read the New York Times during lunch hour and saw an article about David Puttnam. Just a very brief mention that his latest, My Life So Far, will be released in May. Guess that's the US but surely it will open soon after in Europe.

(Heide) I'm afraid my bedroom walls remain sadly unfirthified. I'm a little Firthified. I have that lovely, wide smiling Harper's Bazaar photo (given to me by Kate before she moved back to Australia) hanging on the wall in the hallway--right under Messier ;-p. And the flip side of that photos is just delicious... Don't you think? ;-)~~~ Then I have that really yummy, BIG, Radio Times poster in the living room, given to me by a dear pal. You'd think I was too old for this, but I can't help it. I been Firthified! ;-D

Nan, thanks for sharing again! I carry a tiny picture of him in my wallet (my husband has not seen it yet). I guess that is how we firththified firthaholics carry on while waiting for another opportunity to firthilize (say that word 3 times!).

(Arami) The best ones may be yet to come Yes, that�s it. It�s a sign of something beginning to happen that those �rag-mags� (what a lovely phrase!) are starting to write about Colin. Soon the better ones will take on, surely? I haven�t stopped thinking about the Interview. It does seem surprising that a man who�s so used to cameras in his work would be SHY when interviewed in the tv! But to think of it, it�s easy to act before cameras when you have a role and a script, but to be Colin is not a role. What I want to say is, I�m so happy that he obviously hasn�t created a certain �Colin Firth role� for public appearances, which would prevent us from seeing what he�s really like. I wish he�ll never fall into the ridiculous hubris of so many other celebrities who take interviews as just another show. It�d kill me (or at least my love for him.) ....goes to show I�m absolutely firthified plus firthilized I guess. I particularly like the latter one, makes me think of....um....

Bloody hell. Why does this stupid site keep cloning my messages? Am I doing something wrong?

We're in a time warp!!!!! Look--- we're now in the year 2036!!! I've heard of the y2K problem, but jeez... it's only 1999!

Ben, your DoF is priceless! I needed a good laugh after the big freeze we are experiencing in the midwest. HenceFirth, you will be referred to as the official lexogapher of the DoF. Move over, OED! Can I design the cover? A big glossy of CF as Darcy in the tub, perhaps? Eileen, back in the 80s I, Iived in NY for several years (around 10th and 57th, which I refer to as the Hell's Foyer section of Manhattan). I had the pleasure of seeing Derek Jacobi (as Cyrano) and Jeremy Irons (in a Stoppard play, no less) on Broadway. There is an electricity about theater which does not exist in films. I can only hope that one day I will get to see the DB act in a play. But then I keep reading that Broadway has been Disney-ized and Times Square sanitized, so to speak. Oy! KJArt, what a lovely rendering of Colin. Really captures that delicate quality about him. This board is really becoming addictive....I am a hopeless case, I am afraid, as I am always in search of Firthfilment!

For Ben's Glossary: Firthile (adj)..as in "firthile imagination" ie, a form of wishful thinking, seeing things which may or may not exist. Usually induced by too much gazing at opaque shower screens. Firthrate...ultimate acting accolade. Alternatively, regular arrival of bambinos. And, (slightly tongue-in-cheek!) Firthchoice....laborious decision-making process,invoving much agonising, soul-searching and initial refusals, before finally saying "yes!". Nerfirth tick....obsessive repetitive act ( for example, rubbing nose) when ill-at-ease (as in interview) For Miss Ehle, well there's "ehlated" and "ehlysium" (as in state of bliss)!! Hardly any SIL coverage in the UK press so far. I've seen more coverage of the Star Wars trailer! When are the Oscar nominations made (not the actual awards ceremony) and the Golden Globes announced? I think that in the UK we only really sit up and take notice if a movie has been recognised, or is commercially successful, in the US. Otherwise, total apathy! I can only hope that one day I will get to see the DB act in a play. Well, he did say that of his next five projects, he wanted one to be in the theatre! And by my reckoning, he's reached five! But he also said was hopeless at Math!

For Ben's Glossary: Ehleite- a fan of Jenn's Firthalite- one who admires Colin Ehlefirthalite (say it fast!)... one who likes both. So far: 13 for Colin 8 for Jennifer

For Ben also, Ehlethralled- to be taken in Ehlectrified- needs no explanation Ehlesome (whatever he wants it to be) Ehlendowed - to be full of Jenn;) 12 now for Ben;)

How about: Firthophile (n), an obsessive lover of all things pertaining to CF. Firthography (n), the life and times of CF.

Does someone here have a degree in Firthguistics? Hardly any SIL coverage in the UK press so far. I've seen more coverage of the Star Wars trailer! This situation should soon be rectified. Compilation tape of SiL and Colin's interview were mailed today to be converted. I would expect it to land in the UK next week. When are the Oscar nominations made (not the actual awards ceremony) and the Golden Globes announced? The Golden Globes I think will be on January 24th. I'm not sure when the cutoff is for AA nominations; however, Oscar hopefuls have begun their parade on the talk shows. Cate Blanchette is on Leno or Letterman I think this week. Since she doesn't have an opening, she needs to get out in front of the public and in front of those making the nominations who have probably forgotten she was in a movie this year.

I think Oscar Nominations are due out January 21st and Academy Awards night March 21. Will SIL not be considered for this year's BAFTAs in April? You mean it has to wait till 2000? The video will be out by then...and we will have discussed it on #98. Amazon still doesn't have the screen play. Hoorah! Karen's firthrate tape is firthcoming to UK and all the firthophiles will be firthfully firthralled. A firthilizing firthfillment. ( See what you started, Ben)

(LisaJH)(around 10th and 57th, which I refer to as the Hell's Foyer section of Manhattan). Get outta town! That's my neighborhood. Though I'm slightly lower...still in the "kitchen".

Glad to see we are back from the future (1999 vs. 2036). Nan wrote: Yep, I lived on the 5th floor of a five floor walk-up on 57th. I hear the neighborhood is changing: a highrise is now oppisite my former tenement, er, I mean, townhouse. Is the "Kitchen" now gentrified?

Oops, I meant to cut and paste Nan's quote in my last post. Obviously, HTML got the better of me.... ::sigh::

At last I have found some good reviews for Colin, one critic says he has a talent for comedy, and at last he has got a mention at the IMDB, a user reviewer at the IMDB had nothing but praise for his performance, she said that whilst we may not like Wessex Colin's portrayal was worth an A+, she freely admitted that she is a CF fan but even so it is good to see him mentioned. The whole ensemble is getting universal praise, I shan't mind him playing the villian if he gets good reviews, he is after all first and foremost an actor and not just a heart-throb. I hope the UK critics will be just as kind. BTW Karen and everyone thankyou very much for all your hard work in compiling the SIL tape for us overseas fans, I have already had queries.

Should I have posted this on topic 115, sorry

(LisaJH) I hear the neighborhood is changing: a highrise is now oppisite my former tenement, er, I mean, townhouse. Is the "Kitchen" now gentrified? Well, not exactly yet...but I see signs of it becoming the new hot neighborhood: pretty stores, new "luxury" buildings, lots of new restaurants. How long has it been since you've been here?

I see signs of it becoming the new hot neighborhood: pretty stores, new "luxury" buildings, lots of new restaurants. No doubt the rents will shoot up next... ;-)

Is the "Kitchen" now gentrified? My criteria for gentrification has come down to whether or not the "Holy Trinity" has made its presence in the neighborhood yet: 1)Blockbuster 2)Starbucks 3)Barnes and Noble ...sadly, my old neighborhood (San Francisco's Mission District) is gentrifying as well.

All right, all right -- I can restrain myself no longer... I simply must unlurk (is that a verb?)! I've been hanging out here for six months now and I must say you ladies (and gentleman -- excuse me, Ben) are having WAY too much fun -- I must beg to join in! And to think that, before I found this place, I thought I was the only one "suffering" from this maddening firthaholism -- what a relief to know there are so many others similarly afflicted! I stand in awestruck wonder at your collective ability to ferret out information about CF. And to think that some of you (CherylE, Ben, Winter) have actually met (talked to! shaken hands with! shared the same breathing space as!) the Man Himself -- unbelievably cool! When Winter said, in her marvelous description of her SiL encounter with Colin and Livia, that she called out his name, and he turned around and starting talking toward her -- oh man, too much! You don't know how much I appreciated the transcript of the A&E interview. I was offline all last week due to the holidays and had no clue Colin was set to appear (especially given his "no-interviews" policy). So it's Sunday morning and I'm standing in the kitchen getting my toddler a glass of juice and I hear this wonderful, oddly familiar voice emanating from the TV in the next room. No, I think, it couldn't be. Then the voice stops and a commercial comes on and my husband sails into the kitchen and say , "Gee, these British actors sure look different in real life." "What do you mean?" I ask. "Well, they just had an interview with Colin Firth." Needless to say, it was MOST vexing... Anyway, my point is... this place ROCKS! My hat is off to you all.

Nan wrote: How long has it been since you've been here? I left in summer of 1986, so it has been a long time. At that point Benneton shops were displacing the old Chock Full of Nuts coffee shops and diners. Most of the old shops couldn't afford the rent hikes. Very sad, indeed. Winter wrote: My criteria for gentrification has come down to whether or not the "Holy Trinity" has made its presence in the neighborhood yet My biggest fear, Winter, is that the area between SF and NY is slowly becoming one big strip mall with the "Holy Trinity" appearing every few miles or so.

Welcome Susan. Isn't it great to delurk? It's much more fun to participate, throw in your two cents and get all that bottled up firthmania out. Firth step in our own 12 Step Program for all Firthaholics (but you're never cured). But sounds like you need to train your husband better. He watched the interview and didn't call you over to the TV. Is this a secret passion for CF or does your husband know? As punishment for him (but not for you), I suggest you drag him to SiL. Who knows, he may wind up iking it!

Bethan wrote: Firthchoice....laborious decision-making process,invoving much agonising, soul-searching and initial refusals, before finally saying "yes!". LOL!! How true. I'm sure this has some bearing on why we haven't heard of his next project. He must get sent a lot of junk. I remember reading that he was offered the lead in a TV remake of "The Shining" for lots of money, but he just couldn't do it. Good decision. Re: Collective sigh of hope of seeing our DB on Broadway (louder sigh from those of us who live 'an easy distance' from NYC and could empty out bank account on outrageously expensive tickets to see play countless times). I saw that "next 5 projects" article as well. I've also read that London theater doesn't pay much, which started me thinking... Good Reasons for Firth to come to Broadway 1) In light of aforementioned pricey tickets, (?)possible to make better salary than London. 2) NYC is a mere 5 hr. flight from LA and young Will. I've read that he jumps on planes like most people jump on buses. Even if he is working almost every night, it's easier to see his son with less distance. 3) Natasha, Judi and Alan were/are all on B'way. Colin could join current British invasion. 4) Livia would love NYC (pure conjecture, since I know nothing about her but admire her taste in men).

(Karen), He watched the interview and didn't call you over to the TV. Is this a secret passion for CF or does your husband know? My husband would not have told me either and he certainly would not have watched it, so Susan maybe your firtholism might be a little easier on your husband than mine. BTW, welcome Susan we could use another mutineer-wife. (heehee) Eileen, I think Colin would prefer to do a play in London, where he is better known for box-office purposes. One can dream though.

Morning all. I am ehlectrified at the enthusiasm; thanks all for taking your DoF duties so seriously, and even adding copiously to the DoE. True scholarship. In due course we must contact the OED, which makes one concession to CF (firth(n) - a river in Scotland, or sum'at) and NONE to mon amour JE. (BTW, Laura, I think ehlendowed belongs in the slang dictionary.) Now, as to my pledge, I sure I have failed, compared to expectations at any rate. Dinner w. Casltes was had and Firth subject was brought up, but not, in terms of the Drool timescale, much dwelt on. The thing is, JC does mainly theatre work, plus some telly; he rarely does films. John has seen him only "a few times" since then, though likes him just as well. He has not met Madama Firth. I again underplayed the strength of passion felt by everyone, saying I had "a friend" who was interested in CF. I'm afr id I spent as much time trying to find out about JE (in whom another "friend" was terribly interested). p.s. lexicographers still dispute "firthfillment" versus "fulfirthment". In fact, the two sides came to blows at the last AGFL (Annual Gathering of Firthian Lexicographers). The sister meeting, the AGEL, is more docile, and includes poetry readings. My offering at the last meeting: "Truth is Ehle, and Ehle truth." Kinda neat, no?

Karen, Moon, thanks for the welcome. I must confess (with shame) that I'm a closet firthaholic as far as my husband is concerned, which is why he didn't alert me to the interview. However, hubby is sort of a quasi-Firth fan (in the acting sense, not the drooling sense!). We watch a lot of British drama and he has seen (and enjoyed) P&P2, Nostromo and Master of the Moor. But I don't wax on about CF's other attributes lest I deflate hubby's, er, ego. Karen, great idea about dragging him to SiL -- now that I have kids I get to go to about 1 movie a year, so let it be that one! Colin's part may be small, but as the saying goes "It's not how big it is, it's how you use it." (Pardon me, I'm usually not this vulgar. Is there a full moon or something?.)

Ben, I am so glad you liked my Ehlectrified and Ehlendowed definitely is slang;) Your Ehlelocution is perfect!

(Susan)Colin's part may be small, but as the saying goes "It's not how big it is, it's how you use it." (Pardon me, I'm usually not this vulgar. Is there a full moon or something?.) LOL! Welcome, Susan, from another newbie! See the movie. Compared to TEP, his part's not that small; he appears throughout the movie. Check out the discussion at 115 to further tempt you. I've seen it once, without my husband, who doesn't know of my complete firthification either.

(Ben)I spent as much time trying to find out about JE Ben...for those of us who are Ehlefirthalites ..please tell us what you found out about the Divine Ms. E. I'll tell you what I know....her next film This Year's Love will be released nationwide in UK on Feb.19th. A different role for her....defintely no bonnets...a single mom..dreadlocks...nose stud!! She'll be gorgeous regardless. ***** Welcome to another firthophile....two today. Great to have you join the party, Susan.We love newbies...but you've been around a while. ******* SLOW UPDATE: Bank still owns SLOW. Handmade Films in London closed its doors . Bank involved in a legal venue with Handmade films. Will check again next month.

(Karen) Does someone here have a degree in Firthguistics? No, but I went to Unifirthity for several years and took courses in Colinguistics and Firtheology. :-) (Arami) No doubt the rents will shoot up next... ;-) ...in which case it's time to think about a roomer. ;-p

(Arami) No doubt the rents will shoot up next... ;-) (Renate)...in which case it's time to think about a roomer. ;-p Well, whomever that is, I sure hope he's cute ;-p

There's apparently a one hour "Shakespeare in Love...and on Film" being shown about now (8.30pm Century Cable Channel 10). Features a lot of CF talking etc. There was quite a long item on SIL on BBC Breakfast news...several clips, three including CF (with GP, with JD, and dancing) Interviews with JF, GP and JD, and mentions of GR and Tom Stoppard and John Madden. But (predictably!!!) absolutely no mention of CF! He is in the movie, right?! I have to say (and this is a compliment to his acting!) that I actually had difficulty in recognising CF, especially as I've just seen him in ATA. He looked very glacial, and I also thought that he had somehow modified his oice, sounded colder, more deliberate. But he can act! SIL coverage seems to be starting here (and the Golden Globes, Oscars (hopefully) will help. Focus is on JF and JD (interviews in Times and Telegraph) rather than GP/BA. SLOW...have to admit, this is the one I really want to see!! Beautiful setting (Grasse), romantic, good cinematography (as in Wilde). And , having spent several years in Nigeria, I would predicte that the script and acting will have a lot of vitality and humour. I phoned Working Title again to ask about Bridget Jones Diary. It is still "in development". I asked when information on the production would be available, and was told "in the summer". Hopefully, this means they will actually start shooting in the summer (May/June?). Always the optimist!

Welcome, Susan - and welcome to all other newbies whom I may have failed to greet. It's so good to see so many of you delurking! Come on - more, more! Let's firth merrily together. My husband is firthiated and firthtrained, albeit reluctantly. He tells me when he spots Firth, but today in a record shop, when I was ordering a video of ATA, he kept making very disparaging remarks... Luckily we can laugh about it, although I think he is a little jealous - which, after ...(mumble-mumble) years of marriage, makes me feel quite warm... We saw ATA together and were a bit disappointed - though not in the same degree, of course - so now we're awaiting SIL with some trepidation. And Ben - firthunately in your absence so much has occurred on the Firth front, that your lack of success as a firthective can firthehle be overlooked on this occasion.

(Nan) whomever that is, I sure hope he's cute ;-p Is that settled then? ;-p (Bethan) There's apparently a one hour "Shakespeare in Love...and on Film" being shown about now (8.30pm Century Cable Channel 10). Features a lot of CF talking etc. Oh, shhhhh..... Who made it? And what about those who don't receive this channel??? I sure hope it will be re-shown on other channels, and that all those who can record it get sufficient warning!

(Arami)We saw ATA together and were a bit disappointed - though not in the same degree, of course - so now we're awaiting SILwith some trepidation. Have no fear....these two films aren't even in the same ballpark. Trust me...he'll enjoy SIL immensely and so will you. Even with DB this would be a winner....with him it's the icing on the cake!!

Correction: without DB this would still be a blockbuster....with him.....

May I add my welcome, Susan. However did you manage your obsession without us? ;-) I'm not normally violent but I give you commendation for not knocking your husband over the head with the orange juice carton when he failed to notify you of CF on TV. I guess your obsession would then have been closeted no longer. Please tell us where and when you saw Master of the Moor? I have searched far and wide on my cable channels but nothing going on as far as I can tell. But somewhere in this country, someone is watching this program. I hope we know her and she's taping it. Ehle with dreadlocks? Ah, that explains that photograph I saw. Any word, Evelyn, on any of her films coming to the US? Bedrooms and Hallways? I could kick myself for not seeing that in Edinburgh but hindsight is wonderful. (Bethan) SLOW...have to admit, this is the one I really want to see!! Beautiful setting (Grasse), romantic, good cinematography.. Oh you said it, Bethan. I am dying to see this film. The story as outlined on the Roles page sounds like just the project we want to see him in. Probably funny, a romantic interest but with definite complications. I want to see him work with kids again (as in FP). Hopefully we'll see that in MLSF eventually.

TV ALERT: OK...here's the scoop.... THE MAKING OF SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE:. It is available in New York on Time Warner Cable tonight at 7:30 EST and 11:30 EST. In California it is Century Cable Company. I understand it is almost an hour long show. TOMORROW AT 8:30pm (Friday, 1/8/99) Century Cable Channel 10 It features a bunch of Colin scenes from the film and an interview. I shall telephone Winter in California right now.

Nan, if you are here, please return for a moment to 113. I am posting this here as I do not think you would go back there very soon otherwise. Thanks.

Unfortunately, I have MediaOne Cable here in L.A.. Checked my local guide, which has no listing for the show tonight, or for the next two weeks. I'm really curious as to what channel it might be on. I was thinking perhaps the E! Entertainment Channel, but there seems to be no listing for it there, either.

Evelyn wrote: THE MAKING OF SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE:. It is available in New York on Time Warner Cable tonight at 7:30 EST and 11:30 EST. After I read the above I logged off in record time, as here in the Midwest, we have Warner cable, too, and I was hoping to catch the program. No such luck; it isn't listed at all. Is there any hope of someone taping this documentary and passing it along? Speaking of which, I have been longing to either view someone else's or obtain a copy of the documentary "The Making of P&P". If someone could help me out I would be very grateful. As a fellow delurking newbie, I also wanted to say hello amd welcome, Susan.

Welcome to all the delurking newbies. And to all the closet CF fans with non-firthilised husbands! Well now, it's official! Colin is the invisible man! Our copy of the Times just plopped through the letterbox, with a long article on JF as Will in the magazine. I thought to myself "I'm NOT going to read it, it will just irritate the hell out of me" But then I thought, I'll just glance at it, and EEEECH!!! All about who's in SIL, okay. GP, A-list beauty, guaranteeing box office, marvellous GR giving a fine performancs, and THEN.. "the wonderful cast includes Tom Wilkinson, Judi Dench, Simon Callow, Antony Sher, Rupert Everett and Martin Clunes." SH*T*! SH*T!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!!! And the journalist (male) has seen the damn film. Then, oodles and oodles about JF and how his wonderful good lucks are prompting offers of romantic leads to flood in from Hollywood. I'll shut up before I ruin everyone's breakfast, including my own, but I'm beginning to think that there's a conspiracy against CF. He's NEVER mentioned, not even as a good actor. And don't men know what women find attractive? Obviously not!! Okay, that's my little rant over and done. but I have to give vent to my annoyance. But I'm not reading any more about SIL (seriously!).I hereby retire as self-appointed scrutineer of the British press :-) Must go...my non-firthilised husband wants to know why I'm on the Internet yet AGAIN!!

Freudian slip there ..... "good lucks" should read "good looks". But actually I do think that that "good lucks" matter as well....and that's where CF is lacking! (SHUT UP, BETHAN! GO AND HAVE SOME BREAKFAST!)

Bethan, thankyou for you last post, it has saved me a journey to the shops ,I am so disappointed that he has been overlooked again, I have a good mind to send The Times an email saying how disappointed and disgusted I am that they have overlooked to mention Colin, one of our most versatile and gorgeous actors, in their article on Joseph Feinnes. I am so mad I had hoped he would get more mentions not less when SIL opened here. I don't know about putting me off my breakfast, it has put me off lunch, tea an tomorrow's breakfast. My son has just gone back to UNI. and this has just made things worse, drat.

Oh, I'm still fuming, how dare they mention Martin Clunes and not Colin!!!On another subject but connected to Bethan, if they don't make the Bridget Jones film soon surely that wil lose some of the impetus gained hy the book.

with due respect to Martin Clunes, of course.

Sorry to have ruined your lunch, tea and tomorrow's breakfast, Ann! I sometimes think I should keep my fumings to myself rather than inflicting them on other people! Once I've had my "fume", I tend to cheer up! I sympathise if your son has just gone back to Uni. My elder son starts next year, and I must admit I am semi-dreading it, even though son No 2 will still be at home for a few years. it leaves a big gap. Okay, my positive tthoughts, I'm sure they'll make BJD in the summer and I'm sure he'll do MD! It can't be a long shoot...it's niot a special effects-type movie, and if they pull out the stops they could have it ready for release Spring 1999. Helen Fielding's sequel to BJD comes out in April (definitely) in hardback, and with the p/b version to follow should stay somewhere in the best selling lists for up to a year. No loss of impetus. More positive thoughts..there are three potentially great movies (as yet uncast )out there in the UK alone...Mary Queen of Scots, The Lion in Winter and Robert Harris's "Enigma" (scripted by Tom Stoppard) All with great male leading roles! Here's hoping! Have I made amends for my doom and gloom?

BJD...Spring 2000...otherwise we need a miracle!

(Evelyn),THE MAKING OF SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE:. It is available in New York on Time Warner Cable tonight at 7:30 EST and 11:30 EST. I have a satellite dish and get many channels so I will check too, and since it did not seem to have shown everywhere it may be on again. Also a call to TW Cable might tell us of another viewing. BTW, we have the dish because my husband has to have his RAI International which shows the Italian and European Championship Leagues Football games.

Thanks Bethan, I feel a little better. I just we had some concrete news to look forward to, it is all speculation. BTW is it not possible to have the latest message at the top of the page, this way one has to wait so long for it it load.

(Bethan) All about who's in SIL, okay. GP, A-list beauty, guaranteeing box office, marvellous GR giving a fine performancs, and THEN.. "the wonderful cast includes Tom Wilkinson, Judi Dench, Simon Callow, Antony Sher, Rupert Everett and Martin Clunes." SH*T*! SH*T!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!!!...but I'm beginning to think that there's a conspiracy against CF. He's NEVER mentioned Mentioning Anthony Sher, Tom Wilkinson, Rupert Everett and Martin Clunes without any mention of Colin--it must be a conspiracy or Colin has offended or snubbed this journalist (I use that term generously) in the past. His way is bigger than all of theirs put together. All Sher does is go "hmmm" and spout a bunch of Freudian dream images for sexual impotency as the Eliabethan psychiatrist cum apothecary. Cheer up, Bethan, that's only one reviewer who obviously has something against CF. Looks like Geoffrey Rush must have also as he is noticeably absent and he is the one being touted for Best Supporting Actor at the AAs. ;-)

Last night I finished reading all of Parts 1 &2 of this topic, and I am humbled by everyone's devotion to CF. I was particularly impressed with the covert operations during the NY premiere of SIL: press kits were procured, flight schedules unearthed, and hotel reservations located. I have no such connections to contribute in the future. I am afraid I only can offer my boundless respect for the DB's acting abilities and lust for his body. Ben, did I read correctly that you are an Econ professor at Columbia? Would you care to comment on the current Ehle-asticity of the economy? Bethan, you have cheered me up immensely regarding the "dearth of Firth." The hope for another juicy leading role works wonders!

Damnation! I just tried to cut and paste Bethan's quote in itallics about potential roles for CF and I failed again. Guess I better hang out at the HTML tutorial a while longer. My apologies.

Bethan, you have cheered me up immensely regarding the "dearth of Firth". The hope for another juicy leading role works wonders! (Lisa) Cheered myself up as well! Well, he must be waiting for something BIG! That's how I look at it. And to quote from "Now" magazine my favourite chuck-in-the-bin rag mag, he's excited at the prospect of what's possible and where it will take him....can't be third fairy on the left, or fifth billing in an action thriller starring Tea Leoni, can it? Unless he's easily excited!

LisaJH Hello Lisa, I have got the book "Making of P&P". I ordered it from the IBS "Internet Bookshop" which is in the UK. If you are interested in the homepage here is the adress www.bookshop.co.uk The book cost about 7.99 GBP. The book is very interesting and you will enjoy the interview with CF.

Lisa: When you cut and paste someone else's comments you lose the italics. You must reinsert via HTML tags: <> with an i in it and then it's very important to close them <> with /i inside.

(Lisa)I have been longing to either view someone else's or obtain a copy of the documentary "The Making of P&P". If someone could help me out I would be very grateful. Lisa, The Jennifer Ehle Lending Library will be happy to lend you a copy of "The Making of P&P" (Actually, the real title is "P&P from Page to Screen). That is if you use NTSC, and live in the US. Please email me: eboake@tanet.net Do not use the spring email;it's wrong and I'm afraid of correcting it and throwing the system off. ****** I too feel that ignoring Colin in the TIMES article seems deliberate...at best shockingly negligent. I think the journalist should be told so.And Rupert Everett wasn't even in the credits....sheeesh! Anyway, Thanks UK Firthfriends for sharing. (Bethan)Re: future roles for C.. .can't be third fairy on the left, or fifth billing in an action thriller starring Tea Leoni, can it? Unless he's easily excited! LOL. This is a winner.No kidding.Oh God...I hope it's not an omen. ***** BRAVO sometimes carry "The Making of...."They did TEP and Paradise Road. Be on the lookout...those who get it on their cable.

re today Times' article, it is even worse, my husband has just brought home the paper and Rupert Everett is mentioned so is GR, only Colin is left out, sorry so is BA., it is too much. I am sure I am biased but personally I do not think JF looks so good as himself and he does as S. unlike Colin who looks equally good in character as himself, hope that makes sense it is getting late.

and as himself

It is exteremely vexing how he is left out. It really makes me mad. Out Entertainment Weekly had a very long article and never mentioned him. Now the print ad for the movie doesn't even say anything. I just find all this hard to believe.

Especially hard to believe concidering before the movie came out, they seemed to be promoting COlin by saying "And Introducing Colin Firth" on some of their trailers.

Especially hard to believe concidering before the movie came out, they seemed to be promoting COlin by saying "And Introducing Colin Firth" on some of their trailers.

Blast! Sorry about that.

Wow! I couldn't log on all week because of life overload and I can't believe all the posts! Such fun to see Drool so busy. Welcome to the newbies - so glad you came out to play. And welcome back Ben. Thanks for your covert sleuthing on our behalf. John Castle didn't have a spare Lost Empires lying around, did he? I saw an ad in the paper for the SIL special on Century Cable. Unfortunately we are served by Time Warner in my part of the woods. I scoured my TV listings just in case but no dice :-(. Winter, I got your message on Friday. Thanks anyway for the heads up.

OK, I know we're all eager to hear about future firth projects. This summer when I was fooling around on the internet I found something most intriguing, but I don't know if it's valid or not. Go to the URL www.keele.ac.uk/socs/ks26/monitor/a-d/an/episodes.htm (sorry, I don't know how to put in web links or I'd do that.) Then scroll down to episode 1.09. What do you think? Is this something real, or some kind of a prank or some graduate student's fantasy project? It certainly piqued my interest!

Oh, and Heide, thanks for the welcome. Master of the Moor was on one of my local PBS stations in October or November (I live in the Boston suburbs, but the station was out of Providence). Unfortunately, I was not able to tape it. Hubby said he liked it best out of everything he's seen CF in and actually commented on CF's versatility on being able to play Darcy and then an unhinged person like Stephen Whalby. Naturally I agreed wholeheartedly.

Hello to all. It is obvious that there is some distress over CF's failure to capture some huge heartthrob Hollywood role. Your anxiety touches me; I feel your pain. At the same time, I understand that any pain felt about CF comes with its fair share of pleasure (the thought of Jennifer Ehle being very cross has just occurred to be, and it is not an altogether unpleasurable one), so I want to tread carefully. But it strikes me that (i) CF is unlikely ever to act in such a role, because I'm not sure he'd want to, and (ii) it would surely be a mixed blessing, at best, for Les Madames Drool. Let me try and explain. The Firth is obviously a retiring and diffident sort of man. This means he is not megastar material. You may give the example of, say, Harrison Ford or Tom Hanks; but, while neither of these two necessarily seeks out publicity, I think they are more comfortable with it than CF. It is not that CF is "afraid" of success: I don't think he'd consider megastardom the measure of success to begin with. In any event, there would surely be big drawbacks to his becoming a star? You would have to share him with everyone else. It may be galling for his supporters to see him ignored in The Times; but, if he weren't, there would be loads more websites like this one, with all sorts of arrivistes Firthettes shrieking about him. Is this what you want?

(heehee), Thanks for your ehlecidation Ben. Those thoughts have crossed my mind. I guess the same goes for you.

LOL, Ben! And all too true! I still want to boil certain journalists in oil, though. :-) Reminds me of my favourite Auden quote: "Private faces in public places are wiser and nicer than public faces in private places"

How true. Yes, let's cherish him for what he really is - a truly rare and precious gem.

Yes, Ben, it's an ongoing debate and your points are perfectly true. There has to be a fine line though between being appreciated (which I feel he's not) and becoming a megastar (which no one here really wants, I don't think.) How would you feel about Miss Ehle shooting to superstardom? It seems the female Brits are having a better time if it in film right now than the males. Perhaps the "effeminate" connotation (as was discussed before) to the British accent is more acceptable coming from the ladies. ;-)

(SusanMC) What do you think? Is this something real, or some kind of a prank or some graduate student's fantasy project? It certainly piqued my interest! It is as you said a student's fantasy project. I believe someone ran across the same thing a while ago and did some inquiries. (Ben) It is not that CF is "afraid" of success: I don't think he'd consider megastardom the measure of success to begin with. CF is on record as not wanting "that" type of success and has an admirable list of actors who he admires. However, we and most of the viewing public are familiar with those names (Anthony Hopkins, Ian Holm, Robert Duvall, etc.). How many people know Colin's name and on the basis of that would go see his films as an indicator of a fine fine and performance? there would be loads more websites like this one, with all sorts of arrivistes Firthettes shrieking about him. Colin probably has more websites than say a Ralph Fiennes, who is better known, although the reason for it escapes me. Is this what you want? All we want is for him to get better parts. Ones that will give him the type of recognition he seeks. From the A&E interview last week, there was a comic though wistful type of comment from him when the interviewer talked about SiL having a lot of actors in it that people may not know their names and he said he was one of those. Sometimes those kind of quips come from something true and hurtful.

I, too, get so frustrated when I start touting the DB's latest classic and am invariably greeted with "Colin ...what...who's he?" At which point I have to start explaining. Not everyone in the US GETS A&E and only a proportion of them watched a "British mini-series". Mention of EP or ATA begets the reaction..."was he? Which one?" He has recognition of his peers, and at least some proportion of the UK population, but until he consciously chooses a majar part in a role targeted to a wide audience and ex osed to same, I'm afraid we must all keep fuming in frustration. I hope he is not confusing name-recognition with super-stardom (and even if he did, he admits himself how easy it is for him to become anonymous in public) He'll only have a limited "oportunity-window...START NOW!!! please!!

I just love Colin and I vote we keep him all to ourselves. How selfish but, true.

Katie Couric on Good Morning America announced this am that SIL is #8 on the charts over the weekend. This is the first weekend that it has been on nationwide screening. #1 A Civil Action with John Travolta...which got lukewarm reviews...but he has been on every talk show all week.And this guy gets $20M./film...yet he's out there promoting his film. Colin...take note...that's how one gets starring roles...not going to live in Rome. (But like Ben, IMO, he does not care for stardom) I know this should be on 115, but no one is there this early.

Very very selfish, I think, Rita. What's wrong with his being recognised and appreciated by people all over the world, and, more to the point, by directors and producers so we see more of him on the screen? We cannot pretend to his personal friendship or affection, and his fame would not prevent us from meeting here and pour our libations of drool and admiration at his feet. Is not love supposed to want the best for the loved one? Do we not really want his professional satisfaction? Can we truly believe that can be obtained with secondary roles in obscure films? Indeed, Ben, I do not subscribe your judgement. Anyway, please forgive the inflamed speech, it's probably because Elisabeth is supposed to open "soon" in Lisbon but no talk of SiL yet :-(

For awhile I thought I was the only frustrated Firthaholic when SIL promos in the US failed to mention him. I thought for sure he would pick up more publicity in the UK and am quite surprised that the trend continues. I hope that as it gets closer to the film's opening things change over there! I'm beginning to wonder if only female reviewers notice him. (Ben)Is this what you want? (Karen) All we want is for him to get better parts. Ones that will give him the type of recognition he seeks. I'm in agreement here. I just want him to keep working in quality projects and get proper credit for his abilities, as he did in P&P. Evelyn, thanks for the updates on SLOW. Agree with all who think this is the role we've been waiting for!

I was wondering... has Colin ever done a foreign accent (other than an American one) in a project? Doing so seems to have become de rigeur among British actors (witness R. Fiennes, A. Rickman, K. Branagh) & may lead to wider choice of film projects, one would think. Also, with that wonderful voice of his, I wonder if Colin has ever been approached to voice an animated character. Hey, if Jeremy Irons, R. Fiennes and Mel Gibson can do it... (Obviously, I've become so desperate to see CF in quality film projects that I'm willing to settle for his voice!)

(Susan MC)Also, with that wonderful voice of his, I wonder if Colin has ever been approached to voice an animated character. Now there's a new one....what kind of an animated character would he do best as? A king?(strong voice), he would have made a great Moses,....A BIG dog, .....whatever it is...we want him in a starring role....right? I assume he plays Edward Pettigrew in MLSF with a Scottish accent.

Hi, I just thought you might be interested to know that Fever Pitch opens in the US on the 26th February, in NY & LA, I think. Having seen this film I highly recommend it, it really shows what a versatile actor our DB is.

(KarenR)You must reinsert via HTML tags: <> with an i in it and then it's very important to close them <> with /i inside. Thank you, Karen. I hope I was successful this time. (Sabine) Hello Lisa, I have got the book "Making of P&P". I ordered it from the IBS "Internet Bookshop" which is in the UK. Thank you, Sabine, for your offer of help, but I did purchase the book last year via Amazon.com UK. I am looking for the tv documentary, which leads me to: (Evelyn) Lisa, The Jennifer Ehle Lending Library will be happy to lend you a copy of "The Making of P&P" (Actually, the real title is "P&P from Page to Screen). I am ehle-ated that the JELL has the documentary available. I will be in touch. (Evelyn): All we want is for him to get better parts. Ones that will give him the type of recognition he seeks. I would also have to agree with Evelyn on this point. Of course, as others have said before me, this does not mean starring opposite special effects or Bruce Willis (or his ex Demi...). Personally, I think he has impeccable taste regarding most of the roles he selects (ok, PM is an obviouis exception); it is just a shame that these parts are not the leads we so want to see him in. (SusanMC) Also, with that wonderful voice of his, I wonder if Colin has ever been approached to voice an animated character. What an interersting idea! I would also love to buy a " book on tape" with CF reciting poetry, Shakespeare, etc. I think that my brain has become colincentric (meaning that all thoughts seem to relate back to the DB). I recently read that the results of a Mayo Clinic study revealed that people who fidget have a tendency to be thinner than those who do not. Of course CF's interview on A&E came to mind immediately (the face touching, etc.). Another sign of hopeless Firthaholism....

Evenin' all. New firthdoms continue to pour in - some real gems. As for ehlectricity....Laura had a question about ehlefication, and whether it "felt the same" as fithification. Not having experienced both, I can't say, of course, but I can tell you that ehlefication is somehow elevated yet, at the same time, base: lustful respect, one might call it. I have just spotted our own Winter as Jennifer of Pemberley! Sorry to have unmasked you, dear Winter, but who would have thought the demure Jen, replete with bashful smile and twirling parasol, would also have been the firthaholic zealot co-ordinating Operation Firth-in-LA? How many others amongst you lead this double life? Perhaps there's some blackmail money to me made by a nasty blackguard like me: "Dear Sir, a matter of grave importance has come to my attention, one that concerns your wife. By day, she is indeed as you know her - the responsible, hard-working... By night, however,...." Let's start the bidding at $100 a month. Each.

(Ben) but I can tell you that ehlefication is somehow elevated yet, at the same time, base: lustful respect, one might call it. Oh dear, I'm afraid I've never been so dignified about my firthification. Of course, I respect dear Colin but outside my fantasies ;-) I think Marcia said it best "Lord, but he gives me the squinges!"

(Gi) Very very selfish, I think, Rita. I'm sure she was kidding. And before I go any further, I will assume that you were too. Or as you said, frustrated from a lack of SiL news. Keep the faith.

(Ben)Laura had a question about ehlefication, and whether it "felt the same" as fithification. Not having experienced both, I can't say, of course, but I can tell you that ehlefication is somehow elevated yet, at the same time, base: lustful respect, one might call it. You answered my question beautifully, Ben!

(Ben)I have just spotted our own Winter as Jennifer of Pemberley! Drats! Foiled again! Where/How was I spotted, Inspector Broadbent? ;-) BTW, I can be referred to (on this board) as either Winter or Jenn(ifer). Doesn't matter. (Ann)Fever Pitch opens in the US on the 26th February, in NY & LA, I think. Thanks Ann! I see another mission in the works, my friends! Moon! Jana! Mark your calendars! The possibility of a US Premiere is not so far-fetched! Jana- you monitor the theatre entrance and Moon, you cover the back entrance! I'll guard the bathrooms! ;-)

I am so excited about Fever Pitch opening in the US. Thanks Ann. You are too good. Yes, I was kidding Heide. I am glad that you noticed. WHo would not want Colin to have great roles.

But I always knew that Winter was Jenn:) I've known that Jenn was Winter. I've had lunch and tea with Winter and Jenn;) Confused?

And don't forget shopping together for CD's and books at the Borders (or was it Barnes and Noble?) at Downtown Crossing! I miss you guys...I miss Boston and Cambridge. I miss Filene's Basement, Boston Common, the chimes at Kendall/MIT station ... :_ ( (Me)Moon,you cover the back entrance! Is 'back exit' a more appropriate term? Could 'back entrance' be argued as an oxymoron? BTW, I haven't welcomed the delurkers. WELCOME! Glad you could join us! We're all one big happy family here. And for those of you who haven't come out yet, go ahead, give it a try! We don't bite...only drool. ;-)

Hi. Moon, our wonderful super sleuth, (flattery gets you everwhere I hope), I was wondering do you happen to know when the UK Premiere of SIL is to be and whether Colin is going to attend, (the film opens here on the 29th Jan). I am trying to decide whether it is worth the 100 mile round trip to London, a not very easy journey from where I live, and I certainly shan't be doing a Dame Winter much too cowardly.

(Ben), How many others amongst you lead this double life? Perhaps there's some blackmail money to me made by a nasty blackguard like me: That is why you will never know my RoP persona (heehee). (Ann), Fever Pitch opens in the US on the 26th February, in NY & LA, I think. I spoke with Colin s Rep. today and they said if there is an opening for FP that he will be there, but since it is to open on the same date in NY and LA I do not know which one he will attend. I will try to find out later on. But if it is LA...well Winter, Jana and I will do our best (do not ask me what I will have to do with my husband, he would be QUITE put out). Ant suggestions are appreciated. Would it not be fun to see him at the Pasadena hotel while we are having our tea? He has been known to stay t ere. (Ann), I was wondering do you happen to know when the UK Premiere of SIL is to be and whether Colin is going to attend, (the film opens here on the 29th Jan). I spoke with them before I read your question, but since Colin does not have many important premieres such as SIL, I say most definitely he will attend! So do go and take pictures and report back to us Ann. Colin does have our questions and everyone expects him to answer, so lets keep our fingers crossed.

Heide keep your eyes on the fax machine.

(Moon)FP that he will be there,but since it is to open on the same date in NY and LA I do not know which one he will attend. Moon...you're a treasure.... Sometimes the premieres are earlier in the week...before the release date. But if you're going to attend I'm sure you'll find out.

Moon, thankyou very much for your comments, however, I do not know the UK SIL Premiere date and it depends on which day it is whether or not I am ble to go. BTw was your contact not able to tell you whether or not Colin is working or is still on his break. I know I must be patient but we have waited nearly a year for some new news, don't mean to nag we are really lucky to have you and your contacts.

(Moon) I spoke with Colin s Rep. today and they said if there is an opening for FP that he will be there, but since it is to open on the same date in NY and LA I do not know which one he will attend. Many, many thanks for this scoop! My guess is he'll be in LA so he can see his son (don't think school is on break that time of the year). I can't wait to see FP. I've looked at the snappys so many times and Colin sure looks yummy!

(Karen) All we want is for him to get better parts. Ones that will give him the type of recognition he seeks I'm in total agreement here. I think KJArt hits the nail on the head when she makes the distinction between "name recognition" and mega-stardom. Name recognition is absolutely crucial - there are only a limited number of good roles out there and it obviously pays to have first choice. Ben asked about "firthification"......repectful lust is a pretty accurate definition! But every now and then I turn I find I'm turning into a sort of tetchy school ma'am, who can't understand why her favourite pupil is underperforming! "Come along now Colin, stop fidgeting. I'm really going to have to move you from the back row. Come and sit in the front row, next to Rafe, Ewan, Robert and young Joe. This instant, Colin! And NO! You can't pop out to Rome. Not when I'm talking to you. Now tell me...are they better looking than you? No! Bigger? No! More talented? No! Better vocal chords? No! So, why aren't you top of the class?? Hmmmm? Seriously, I don't really understand how the process of "name recognition" works, but it must start working for CF soon!! I'm very impressed by your contacts, Moon! Let's hope Heide's fax machine starts working overtime.

Back to italics, I see. I am utterly hopeless in these matters - some other witch will have to rid us of the i-curse. I see this fame issue stirs the passions - but my point was serious, for a change. I really don't think CF is that bothered. It may be a difference between England and America, but being a big movie star is not the be-all and end-all. I am always amused when MacKellen and Dench are mentioned over here, because their names are always accompanied by films in which they've appeared in the last couple of years, as if this were the pinnacle of their achievements. I've even heard one reviewer say that Judi Denc 's acting career had "begun" late with the James Bond film! Now, it's true that Colin has not concentrated on the theatre in the way that these two giants have. And perhaps a part of him wants the big movie star status - maybe there's less difference between England and America these days. But, by my reckoning he's at least torn. You know his suspicion of fame. And his remarks in that recent interview about having an unrecognized name are no more than the usual, self-deprecating sort of charm I'd expect from someone of his background and temperement. Some crave recognition on his behalf; but what any actor craves above all, surely - indeed any body, for that matter - is the recognition of his peers. I think he has that already.

Moon, d�you mean his representative told you that Colin has the questions and expects C to answer them? If so, that�s splendid. I already practically lost hope and felt quite disappointed with him (remembering what Winter told us about his reaction to �his internet fans�.) I�m really excited about the possibility that he might answer because I doubt very much that he ever would if I wrote to him by myself. He MUST realize that the internet is a direct contact to hundreds or thousands of his fans. Colin, if you�re reading this, do answer the questions or I�ll....be very angry with you for at least two or three seconds...:-)) BTW, Heide, do you know how many people this board actually does reach? What�s the number of visitors daily? Yes, it would be so fabulous if someone of us could attend the London premiere and make a report! I�m quite sure he�s going to attend, why wouldn�t he for god�s sake. I�m crazy enough to have discussed the possibility of going to London with my husband because I thought the premiere is on the 29th and we�re going to be in Amsterdam the same day, returning from a trip. The thought was dismissed by him but the discussion made me seriously think: could I forget my cowardness and go? We only live once....to ee Colin, if just once :-) ....right, Ann?!

(Ann), BTW was your contact not able to tell you whether or not Colin is working or is still on his break. To be honest, I did not ask, but I think he is preparing for the UK SIL premiere, not working now. I did ask foe a release date set for MLSF and SLOW and there is none scheduled (bad news), let s see how the British press treat him his month. (keep us informed) (Elena), Moon, d�you mean his representative told you that Colin has the questions and expects C to answer them? YES! Now, I am having fun thinking that he might be in LA when I am there.

Good points, Ben. All in all, I�m positive that he�s going to get better and better roles in the future, he�s possibly negotiating on them this minute. He�s not hungry for fame and glory but for interesting roles, and sometimes those things can meet. Because of his extraordinary actor quality, I believe it�s going to happen for him sooner or later. Btw what comes to the attitude of male critics and journalists, I believe they really could be a personal problem of Colin�s. He�s exactly the sort of a guy who will make other men feel lesser creatures. It�s just a subconscious sexual & biological phenomenon to mention everybody else in a film and forget him or to �fail� recognizing his talent. So: what we need is more female critics, writers and also scriptwriters, film producers and directors EVERYWHERE to make critics and castings better. After all, it was Sue Birtwistle who wanted Colin to be Darcy, wasn�t it? I can only wonder in horror who might have been given the role if it had been a male decision.

Good Point Elena. Oh my , who would have been Darcy is Sue B had not picked him out. I can't imagine anyone else playing Darcy. Although, I would like to see my other "hero" Alan Rickman in some juicy roles also. Ann, Do go to the premiere. We all can be jealous of you then. LOL

Rita, it depends when it is and I probably won't hear till it is too late, any suggestions anyone how we can find out when and where the Premiere is to be. Also if I were to go I would never be able to do as good a job as Dame Winter, I could go and watch and perhaps report back but I would never never have the nerve to talk to him. As I say it depends when it is and whether Colin is going to be there, I'm sorry but I would only make that journey for Colin, not for Joseph, Gwyneth or even Dame Judi Dench!! Wouldn't it be wonderful if it was given a Royal Film Premiere.

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I did ask for a release date set for MLSF and SLOW and there is none scheduled (bad news), (Moon) Here I go again, the party pooper, or perhaps I just hone in on bad news!! I thought MLSF was definitely scheduled for a May/June release in the US. Does "none scheduled" mean they haven't firmed up a specific date, or (perish the thought!) none (as in NONE) scheduled!! I can understand that there is no release date for SLOW because it's currently held by the Bank.

figures, I don't get bravo:(

Here are some Snappies. Thanks for the heads up, Ev ;-)

Nan, where are those snappies from? He is not in costume and I thought it was a fake goatee he had! They are wonderful, thank you, he does look sooo good! (bethan), I thought MLSF was definitely scheduled for a May/June release in the US. Does "none scheduled" mean they haven't firmed up a specific date, or (perish the thought!) none (as in NONE) scheduled!! I believe there is NONE scheduled. If the british press turns in lots of publicity for Colin now, there may be a chance they would pick up on the momemtum and set a release date.

Evelyn thanks for the info. I did not read this until it was too late, drats! Bravo usually repeats their programs so hopefully I will get another chance. Do let us know if our DB is showcased. If those snappies are from the program I MUST tape it.

Moon, you are a wonder. I am in total awe of your resourcefulness. Would it not be fun to see him at the Pasadena hotel while we are having our tea? He has been known to stay there. Hats off to the west coast contingent of "Operation Firth." Those of us in the hinterlands of the Firthdom are grateful that we are able to take vicarious pleasure in all of your exploits.... Alas, Evelyn, I, too, do not get Bravo. (Bethan) I find I'm turning into a sort of tetchy school ma'am, who can't understand why her favourite pupil is underperforming! LOL, Bethan! Well said!

Nan..you are a wonder.They are great..... I don't think that is the FP jacket....looks like a fur collar. Sorry, Moon. I didn't get the info from Bravo til late aft (I had inquired early yesterday morning...Bravo uses these as fillers and does not publish it in their schedules.) I telephoned all the firthettes (as Ben calls us) whose numbers I had.Sorry it was so short (7 minutes). Last week's was 1 hour!!At least they didn't cut Colin out. Karen says that HBO surely will present it since they show all the Making of.... anyway, lots of us have it and we can pass it around.

Oh, I'm in love. ;-) Thanks, Nan. I've been waiting for a chance to see that leather jacket again. And the knife scene too. I love it when gets physical. Now what exactly does he say? I'm sure enough of our ladies get Bravo that copies will be available. Unfortunately I'm not one of those ladies so I'll depend on the kindness of.... surely we're not strangers! I'm convinced My Life So Far will be released this spring. That is generally a good time for small films to be released. David Puttnam has mentioned it will be released in May (in a recent NY Times article). Don't give up! And Evelyn is very positive about Secret Laughter of Women. My biggest worry is that he's got nothing in the works at all for 2000. And we thought the last year was a long drought.

I agree, Heide. I do so love a man with a goatee (even a fake one) ;-)

Moon, if we have to wait for UK media hype for Colin before there is a release date for MLSF then goodness knows when we will be seeing it, in 2020? sorry it has bween one of those mornings, and I have just read of another JFeinnes movie and none for our DB.

Ann, I suggest you call Miramax in London and find out about the SIL premiere date. We need a rep. there and are counting on you. I know about the new JF film, to be done in Miami. A role that Colin could have done (eventhough his American accent really turns me off), as Bethan has said, there are still a couple of films to be cast in the UK now. If he does not land a role soon, we really must wonder why.

I can tell everyone is getting antsy about Colin's next role. I've felt that way for about 6 months. I think his "well-deserved" break should be over now. He needs to work so we can see him in some more roles. Once a year is not enough. I was thrilled when on the Bravo profile on SIL Colin said that SIL was like Dallas and J.R. in frocks since I live 10 miles from Southfork ranch. Good editing on his interviews-he came across as articulate and thoughtful, not that he usually isn't but no nervous gestures this time. He even get third mention when they stated the starring roles. Considering this was only 7 minutes, Colin and Wessex played a big part in it.

Missed Colin's interview on Bravo because I missed your tip, Evelyn (I signed on earlier in the day). Drat! After I scoured the TV Guide, too (the listing for that time period was 'Inside the Actor's Studio' starting at 6 pm). This proves again how valuable your tips are, you insiders. Oh, how we depend upon you! Do keep us duly informed if you hear of it showing again. Thanks for the snappys, Nan! (Ben)Some crave recognition on his behalf; but what any actor craves above all, surely - indeed any body, for that matter - is the recognition of his peers. I think he has that already. Good point. Colin said something about that in an interview during the filming of TEP (I think), referencing Ralph Fiennes being "judged well" by others and how he wished for that. I'm going to try a few things to keep my frustration (due to Colin's lack of critical acclaim or even much mention in SiL) at bay: 1. Remember how Gwyneth praised Colin when introducing the film clip on Rosie O'Donnell back in early Dec. She didn't say anything about the scene itself, just went on about how "brilliant" Colin was. This may not win him any roles but I was glad to hear her heaping on the praise. 2. I just had the flu and had to take my "cure" by watching P&P2 for the countless time. Now, Adrian Lukis (Wickham) didn't get much critical acclaim for his performance, did he? I think it's human nature that bad guy characters get overlooked when everyone else's performance is good as well. If P&P2 was a major motion picture, Colin's career would have taken off just like Joe Fiennes' is. I'm doing my best to keep the faith and know that we'll hear about Colin's next project soon enough.

If P&P2 was a major motion picture, Colin's career would have taken off just like Joe Fiennes' is. IEven if P&P had been presented on Masterpiece Theatre which reaches all viewers nationwide(sans commericals!) instead of A&E ...he would have more name recognition. ****** BRAVO says that they will probably show it again...but they never put fillers on the schedule. Customer relations email: programming@bravotv.com Her name is Joanne. How about some of you writing and asking them to show some of CF's other films. I spoke to her this am and told her about Deep Blue Sea...which is a good one...general audience etc. A&E showed Tumbledown in 1993. Ask them to reshow it.

I can�t help getting quite depressed by this conversation about his career, as if it already was a catastrophe or at least heading fast for it. I really do not think it is or will be. I almost feel hurt for him because of all this frustration and urge to tell him what to do with his career. Was Wessex really such a lousy role? (I know that�s not the point, just occurred to me that a disappoinment might be a reason for all this anxiety). I�m sure he knows what he�s doing and what he wants, and it can be something else than what we might expect. For instance, it�s possible that he�s even more selective about roles than we can ever imagine. Sorry for being so tired and critical, it happens sometimes.

Great snappies, Nan, and thanks Evelyn for the call. I've taped the Bravo bit and it is probably an excerpt of the half-hour one that was exclusively broadcast in NY and LA last week. I'm stil hopeful that the entire thing will be broadcast by a mainstream cable network. In his second interview snippet, he commented on the script and how only someone of Stoppard's caliber could make it work. Stoppard's knowledge of history and of Shakespeare enabled him to write the in-jokes. He certainly looked real cute in that bomber jacket and black T-shirt. However, I don't think the mustache and goatee were real. One thing that I'm struck by is how first Gwyneth and now Joe F have mentioned Colin's role specifically in their interviews. I have this feeling that Miramax, which would have put together this snippet as well as the bigger one, was definitely trying (or perhaps committed) to promote Colin's performance for Oscar nomination. This could have been the hook that Harvey used to get Colin to take the second banana role. That Miramax would back him to the hilt (if the film were successful) and that he would get the pick of better parts in the future and huge exposure for MLSF. Unfortunately, the critics came out behind Geoffrey Rush and Judi Dench for Supporting Actor nominations and Miramax has changed gears and is promoting the hell out of them now. Colin is really showcased in the 7 minutes, much more so than either Rush or Dent. (Ben) I am always amused when MacKellen and Dench are mentioned over here...as if this were the pinnacle of their achievements. I've even heard one reviewer say that Judi Dench's acting career had "begun" late with the James Bond film! I just saw a profile of Judi Dench on Bravo that was probably done last year. It's not surprising that most Americans would have little knowledge of her before the Bond films or Mrs. Brown. She admitted that she elected to do more British television and theater rather than films. Perfectly reasonable to me and not indicative of any deficiency (xenophobia or provincialism) on our parts. ;-) And his remarks in that recent interview about having an unrecognized name are no more than the usual, self-deprecating sort of charm I'd expect from someone of his background and temperement. I found them a little more wistful than self-deprecating, especially that part about his "big breaks." Some crave recognition on his behalf; but what any actor craves above all, surely - indeed any body, for that matter - is the recognition of his peers. I think he has that already. But the peers have to include directors who want to work with him and will insist that he be cast in their films. A number of producers and directors admire him, but he hasn't been noticed sufficiently to get him the big parts. And by "big parts" I don't mean "Lethal Weapon," etc. I mean parts that would qualify one for a Best Actor nomination.

Karen, fair enough - I accept entirely that it's not xenophobia, and I'm sorry if I gave that impression. But provincialism...or, at least, a particular view of what "success" is, is prevalent, at least amongst some. The point is only that it would have taken one 'phone call for this commentator (I can't remember who he was) to establish that Judi Dench had had something of a career in the theatre already. And the phone call could have been made to just about anyone in New York, as well as London. But, by omissi n, he gave the impression that only a star-studded movie career was true success - so a provincialism not so much about the US but about films. Don't get me wrong - I am not insinuating that theatrical actors are necessarily better - anyone who has seen Kevin Spacey on stage could not. However, at the same time, great acting ability is neither necessary nor sufficient for success in films. It's not clear to me, for example, that his peers "must" include directors who want him for an Oscar-calibre role. I would have thought greater reward, per se, would be the recognition of his fellow actors, in whatever medium. Finally - and this is entirely non accusatory, simply an inescapable fact of human nature - it is harder, other things equal, for a non-American to end up with the leading man role in a Hollywood film. The converse is true as well. This is somewhat related to the question of CF's success. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but I simply cannot picture him as someone agonized by his own "failure" to get big Hollywood breaks. He seems too self-effacing. And, unless he is tortured, why should his supporters be?

An interesting discussion! I am more than guilty of being over zealous on CF's behalf and wishing him more than perhaps he wishes himself. But I do agree with Ben that CF probably has a different yardstick for measuring "success", and I also think that British actors pace their careers differently, often mixing theatre, TV, film and radio work, and often opting for lesser but more varied roles....and then playing King Lear in their sixties! (Tom Courtney and the newly knighted Nigel Hawthorne are both pl ying Lear this year). I remember reading a comment by JE...that she would rather work as a waitress than take an acting job, for which she felt no sense of commitment. I should think that CF shares this viewpoint. BUT, to return to the present, which really concerns us all....if David Puttnam says that MLSF will be released in May, it will! It's just as much his project as Harvey's! Previews of SLOW seem very favourable. And I'm sure that CF must have some good projects in the offing...and they'll be worth waiting for. So, keep the faith!

I just saw SiL again (it's finally playing at a theater near me). It's even better the second time around. Karen, I don't know if Colin's role was necessarily intended as Oscar material (unless they all get nominated--you never know). IMO the hook was related to MLSF. Miramax had to pull it from release last summer for a reason. Surely a film about a moss farm in Scotland would have a better chance in front of American audiences (where the money is) if people recognize the star. SiL is Miramax's way t get Colin out there: great film, Oscar caliber, other big names. Have him do interviews. Have the other stars speak about him (although, as I wrote earlier, I sincerely hope some of that is genuine). I agree the PR seems to have taken a turn away from Colin since earlier on, but 7 minutes on Bravo including him sounds good to me! They could have cut him out and featured only Gwynnie or Joe. I'll keep my eyes peeled for the full show on either Bravo or HBO, but I see what you mean, Evelyn. Many times H O sticks them in at the end of a movie ending at an odd time and those are never listed. I think if we're patient, we'll see more. The movie really just opened nation-wide last week (not Christmas, as we thought. It was only playing in "selected cities"). Wait until the Oscar hype!

Still on about the DB's career, are we? Perhaps when I said "name recognition" rather than super-stardom" Several people misinterpreted what I meant. The LAST thing I would want to see is Colin in the lead of some Hollywood Blockbuster or fully established in the money-mart there. I have gathered from his statements that it is the LAST thing he wants too. What he wants are good, well-written roles in quality productions, which is what any dedicated actor would want. To get same, he must be OFFERED th se roles (preferably as first choice). To do that he must have the respect of his peers (he seems to have that), a good reputation as a dependable and thoroughly professional actor (it appears he is building this up) and "draw" which means: 1) a hefty segment of a given population know who is being talked about when his name is mentioned, and 2) a respectable proportion of those who recognise him will desire to see him when they find out he is in a given production. This year he will have several releas s relatively close together, so the chance to build up "1)" is upcoming. But to build up "2)" requires that he have a proportion of the roles he chooses as likeable or admirable characters because those are the images that stick with the public consciousness. I sometimes get the feeling he fights accepting such roles tooth and nail (remember the difficulties Sue B. had to convince him?) He resists playing "heroes", even supporting ones, because they are not challenging enough for the application of his talents. I say get Sue to give him another talking to! He is puzzled because the greatest popularity he ever won was in a role that didn't require him to act his socks off, and even to occupy a large proportion of screen time. But it was the nature of the character that won him that recognition, whether he likes it or not. He needs to take such roles , say 33 percent of the time, and I guarantee he will have more good offers of good roles than he'll know what to do with. And the name recognition is w at will give this to him. "Colin Firth? Oh, I know that guy. He's really good. Let's go see it..." (I give permission for him to play the weirdos 50% of the time..) Enough! Now watch the debate!!!

KJ, You say "what he wants is....". Is this not the heart of it? How does one know what he wants? Quite possibly, he wants to do the odd bit of theatre work, the odd film, and spend the rest of the time having and looking after children. Someone on the Darcy site pleaded that one could only, surely, want success for the object of one's love. No. One should want them to be happy and contented, which is far from the same thing. I think your analysis is spot on - he resists things that he thinks may not stretch him, and is nervous about fame. The combination of the two means he is too proud to take great pleasure in gaining recognition from the "nature of the character" he acts, rather than the acting itself. This was a very astute observation, I think, and in many ways gets close to defining what it means to be a movie star. I love lots of films, and am quite unashamed about going to see a film just because it has, say, Gene Hac man or Bill Murray in it (he cracks me up). The rest, quite literally, is the vehicle. (And I admit I would be even quicker to go and see something with The Goddess Ehle, Lord bless 'er, though I'd prefer to be invited to dinner, and just by chance sit next to her, then bump into her a week later at a gallery, and end up having lunch, children, etc.) But, the bottom line for me is this: if CF is nervous about doing all this, and it goes against the grain for him, then so be it. May he simply live the life he wants.

....but the point is that he is doing nothing and has been doing nothing for nearly a year, no theatre, no TV, no films and that cannot be good for him or us. I just hope he isn't becoming disenchanted with the profession and that we get news of something no matter what, no matter how small or odd, whatever he wants to do is alrigh by me but please do something soon and please let us know Colin, we have been very very patient. BTW Bethan you didn't finish your sentence and it sounded interesting.

We shall have to wait and see what Colin choses to do next. That will give us a clear indication of his ambition. I would prefer that he developed his own project, but wouldn t we have heard something by now if that be the case? We are no good at this waiting game.

( Karen)I found them a little more wistful than self-deprecating, especially that part about his "big breaks." I, for one, felt rather sad when he commented;...Re; Big Breaks" you're always filled with expectations and then things don't turn out the way you planned". Of course, it was a stupid question from the interviewer.However...IMO it gave me a different insight into his feelings being a star in a famous role. But perhaps it was my perception. (Ben)May he simply live the life he wants. Amen. And he seems to be doing just that.

Someone posted at Virt Views in RoP that the SIL CF interview will be aired again on BRAVO Jan. 17 at 3:45pm.

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And may we all be his thoughtful, grateful and patient fans, admirers, followers - whatever... for years to come. Yes, of course, we all want to grab more! Of course it's natural to want all of him - now! This minute...! But Colin is giving of his skill, his art, in small, carefully measured doses, like something precious. For indeed that is what it is. Like small tasteful morsels or a glass of good wine, he is to be savoured slowly, thoughtfully, in peace and quiet. You don't want to guzzle it all at once. ;-)

Oh, okay then, I am convinced but it is so frustrating when I hear that J.F has another role so soon after SIL and RF has or is in the process of his third film this year.

If he doesn't want to work but in small doses, that's fine. It truly is. But if he's not working because he's not anyone's first or even second choice, then that disturbs me. No one knows, we can only speculate which we all are doing a fine job with. Enjoying the discussions. (Moon) We are no good at this waiting game. Actually, I think we're experts. ;-)

Okay, UK ladies. The FoF list has information on the London SIL premiere and are happy to share it. It's January 19, a Tuesday, at the Empire Theatre starting at 8:00 pm. If you need more information, you can contact UIP International, Katherine Willing, 44-181-563-4167. If anyone can make it, the best of luck. Almost forgot, Moon. Is it okay to e-mail you at home?

I do have some good news. Yesterday, COlin was listed in the Arts section of the local paper. They had his name wrong . Okay,okay, here it is.....today, they corrected and listed a correction. Yeah, for Colin. I was so happy. Plus, SIL opened at a few more cinemas. I am so happy. As far as Colins' career, I would rather see him take really good roles thatn blockbusters that are not challenging. Of course, we all know he is the best actor a out there.

Hi, I too have done some super sleuthing and Colin is to attend the UK Premiere on Tuesday, however, it seems it is a sell-out so I will just have to wait outside with my camera. GP, JF & Simon Callow will also be there, don't know about JD. All being well and weather permitting I shall be there and will report back.

SIL PREMIERE IN LONDON Miramax London confirmed ; Tuesday January 19th 8pm Empire Theatre,Leicester Square Charity Benefit: The Chicken-Shed Theatre (some children's theatre group in London.) As of this morning they were sold out. However, they do have a waiting list for tickets that are returned. Tickets are: 30UKP & 50UKP Call: 011-44-181-292-9222 for waiting list. Organizing the Premiere is: Caroline Lockyer-Nibbs 011-44-171-534-5209 Publicity for the Premiere is:011-44-181-563-4167 And yes, as AnnW. reported "Colin Firth is expected to attend".

(Ben)(And I admit I would be even quicker to go and see something with The Goddess Ehle, Lord bless 'er, though I'd prefer to be invited to dinner, and just by chance sit next to her, then bump into her a week later at a gallery, and end up having lunch, children, etc.) LOL! Best of luck on your quest! Info about SiL interview on Bravo is appreciated. Will rev up VCR because all TVs in house will be irrevocably tuned in to football playoffs. Ann, good luck at London premiere. Hope you get a great glimpse (and pics) of our DB! One more thought to add to Colin's career debate--at least his current role/performance is good, in a great, strong film. Imagine our distress if it was a critical stinker or box office failure and there was nothing on the horizon. No doubt he would emerge (think Valmont) but I'm sure our concern would be greater.

Eileen, I agree with you 100%,his current role and performance is v. good in a strong film. His performance is as good as any in the film. It is always hard to single out performances in a strongly-acted ensemble movie. The actors that were cited are the ones that had the most name-recognition, not that CF gave a lessor performance. With strong performances more mainstream movies like TEP and SIL, he will eventually have some of the recogniton that we crave for him and that he might even subconsciously c ave for himself. Just please no more stinker supporting roles like in ATA.

This discussion re: CF's career has been fascinating -- good, valid points on both sides. I tend to side with the more frustrated among us who feel he should have had something new lined up by now. Or if he's decided to chuck acting in favor of sheepherding or becoming a househusband a la John Lennon, I wish he'd let us know that so I can get on with my life! In the interest of seeing Colin in a lead role before the millennium, I suggest we all chip in and get SLOW out of bank receivership or whatever it is that's holding it up. Imagine the headlines in Variety: "Firth Fans Finance Foundering Film"...

"Firth Fans Finance Floundering Film" I'll be in that Susan. Evelyn thankyou very much for the telephone number, I am now on said waiting list, fingers crossed.

"Firth Fans Finance Floundering Film" I will organize the premiere party, champagne anyone? Ann, auguri di buona fortuna! We are counting on you.

TV ALERT The History Channel will broadcast "Decisive Weapons: The Bayonet" on Thursday, January 21 at both 1:00 pm and 6:00 pm (one hour show) Eastern time. I'm not positive, but this show might have scenes from Tumbledown showing Colin and it might also show the real Robert Lawrence. I had heard about this program last year and noticed in next week's TV Guide that it was finally going to be reshown. I tried to check the History Channel's UK website, but couldn't find a search feature.

Here's the program listing: Springfield Rifle. A review of the 300-year history of the bayonet--a few inches of cold steel that built empires and decided the Falkland War's bloodiest battle. Then, a look at the first "mass-produced" weapon. Over 40 years in development, the Springfield Armory's Rifle Musket, with greater speed and range, was crucial for Union forces at Gettysburg.

(SusanMC),,Or if he's decided to chuck acting in favor of sheepherding or becoming a househusband a la John Lennon, I wish he'd let us know that so I can get on with my life! ROTFLOL.

(Arami) But Colin is giving of his skill, his art, in small, carefully measured doses, like something precious. For indeed that is what it is. Like small tasteful morsels or a glass of good wine, he is to be savoured slowly, thoughtfully, in peace and quiet. I couldn't agree more, Arami. IMO, the fact that his roles are infrequent adds to his allure. Plus, he usually rewards us with such wonderful performances. This alone helps to quell my frustrations. (Ben) May he simply live the life he wants. Amen to that. (Susan) "Firth Fans Finance Floundering Film" The talented ladies at FanFic should consider publishing their Lizzy/Darcy errotica (wonderful stuff, BTW, ladies). Perhaps the proceeds from the royalties could help to bale out SLOW. There are other fundraising possibilities which involve chocolate and nuts, but I hestitate to delve futher into the details....

royalties could help to bale out SLOW. Oops, I meant to write bail out .....that's what I get for being in a hurry.

Sue: I am in too for the Firth Fans.... I would be willing to help out. Wouldn't it be cool if Colin peeked in to our posts.

(Lisa JH)fundraising possibilities which involve chocolate and nuts You mean, he's the chocolate and we are nuts? :-)

Best of luck at the Premiere, Ann! And if you see the Man Himself, just give him a poke in the back and say "Hey, Mr Firth, there are are a lot of women out there who think you're semi-retired. What exactly ,and I mean "exactly", is your next job?" And if he says "no comment", just corner Livia in the Ladies Room and ask her when hubbie's new day job starts. :-) Seriously, Miramax have apparently confirmed that MLSF will open in June, so that's one less thing to fret about! Moon, the only time I ever phoned CF's agents office in London, I found them rather less than informative. I asked when we would next be seeing Colin in something, and was told that he would be in SIL, opening in the US in November (wrong!). And when I said "oh good, that means we'll be seeing him in the UK soon", the same lady replied "oh no, it will be at least six months" (wrong, wrong!) I uess there's only one reliable source (get poking, Ann!) :-)

Oh Bethan, I would love to be able to say I will do what you say but if I do see him, I am sure I would be dumbstruck and anyway I expect I will have to fight my way through GP & JF fans and I have to say here and now that unless I get tickets I probably won't be going unless it is a lovely evening!! , I am too old to stand out in the pouring rain but if I do go and I very much hope I will I will make mental notes and take my camera, although I am not a brilliant photographer but you never know I might ge beginners luck.

(Bethan), Moon, the only time I ever phoned CF's agents office in London, I found them rather less than informative. I know I have said this before but he really should look into changing agents. To be low-key and British is very cool and all but NOT for an agent. I am not crazy about his US agent either. It is all up to our DB to do something about it. A May opening for MLSF is still rather far off we will just have to see. Arami and Bethan what about joining Ann at the premiere? Allison where are you? Ann do not be shy, go and try for some pictures, he was very affable with Winter.

Rita, I live in mortal fear that Colin will peek in at our posts! Criticism of his career choices, comments about chocolate-flavored condoms (oops, that's at #112, I think) -- as Lizzy would say, "What must he think of me?" Seriously, did anyone see the interview with that woman who broke into Brad Pitt's house? She was acting like what she did was totally normal, and to the rest of the world, looking at her, she is obviously wacked. What kept me lurking for so long was I was afraid if I started posting here, my name would end up on some sort of list Colin's people compile of wacky fans who might be a threat to him. When in reality I would never dare speak to him, chicken that I am!

Allison where are you? Here I am! Christmas, New Year, skiing and catching up on work after all that time has prevented me from doing more than the occasional lurk. However I did break cover today to buy a copy of She magazine, advertising on its front cover "Colin Firth on Sex Appeal" (other articles entitled "New mothers get Naked" and "Women who pay for Sex Lessons"!!) I made sure no one saw me as I entered our local newsagent and the girl behind the counter looked as furtive as I as she asked me if I would like it put in a bag!! Rehashed articles mostly plus 2 photographs we have all seen before. There is a new photograph of CF and Livia with her gazing into her eyes. sighhhh! Lots of airing of Colin's social hangups which are actually quite interesting though I do think he should have come to terms with it all by now, he is 38 after all. The article made him sound just like my student son when he is sounding off on this, to British minds anyway, endlessly fascinating subject. However this is probably unfair as I think the article has been rehashed from a number of sources and so almost certainly gives a wrong impression. One interesting point. He says Nick Hornby is still a good friend and contrasts people's reactions to Nick who has a London accent with himself and his RP. He seems to move in a world where it is considered cool to be prolier than thou and he says that Nick is never castigated for his background because he adopts a lower class accent. An interesting observation. I only discovered a month or two ago tha NH's father is Sir Derek Hornby who is a big businessman and Director of I can no longer remember h w many major companies! So much for Dad as played by Neil Pearson!

(Allison) I only discovered a month or two ago tha NH's father is Sir Derek Hornby who is a big businessman and Director of I can no longer remember how many major companies! Absolute shocker! He portrayed the father as a sales-type, certainly not the bigwig this would imply. prolier than thou Typo? or is prolier from proletariat?

(Rita) Wouldn't it be cool if Colin peeked in to our posts. I can�t imagine that CF could be bothered to monitor to Drool. God, I hope not. Some of us would have to legally change our names. :-) (Susan) Seriously, did anyone see the interview with that woman who broke into Brad Pitt's house? She was acting like what she did was totally normal, and to the rest of the world, looking at her, she is obviously wacked. Yes, I saw that on TV as well: shades of David Letterman�s unsolicited houseguest. One would hope that our admiration for the DB does not fit into the stalker category: we lust after and obsess about him from afar, are gainfully employed, and are in real, committed relationships�.. IMO, however, premiers and the like, are fair game for seeking autographs. It is one thing to meet him in a public arena, and another thing to follow him home. All kidding aside, I would never want to invade his priva y. When I lived in NYC, quite frequently I used to see celebrities walking around town. Residents were very good about not bothering celebs; it was usually the tourists who pestered them. Since then I have always thought that it would be better to be rich than famous. Oh God, then I think about what happened to poor John Lennon�.

(SusanMc) Seriously, did anyone see the interview with that woman who broke into Brad Pitt's house? Eeeewwww, I did. She creeped me out. Hope she's now in a treatment program for her obvious psychiatric disorder. It's unfortunate that the press takes sick people and makes them into short-order celebs. Suppose I'm guilty for watching and therefore contributing. Of course, we Colin fans are *ahem* way too mature and intelligent for such over-the-top behavior! Witness how well Dame Winter conducted herself at SiL's LA opening. Right, ladies (and gentlemen)? We channel our desires and longings more productively, tapping on keyboards during stolen moments or late into the night! (Allison)There is a new photograph of CF and Livia with her gazing into her eyes (her gazing into his eyes, right?) Any chance of getting that picture up on this board? Or else I'll have to fly to Rome/London, break into their flat(s) and sleep in their clothes...(kidding! kidding!)

Any chance of getting that picture up on this board? Or else I'll have to fly to Rome/London, break into their flat(s) and sleep in their clothes...(kidding! kidding!) ] Hmmmm....... I wonder... Hee hee:)

(Allison) I only discovered a month or two ago tha NH's father is Sir Derek Hornby who is a big businessman and Director of I can no longer remember how many major companies! ( Karen),Absolute shocker! He portrayed the father as a sales-type, certainly not the bigwig this would imply. I am just as shocked! Is he just putting us on? Maybe there's not an ounce of auto-biographical material is what he writes. I too would love to see that photo Allison. BTW, why aren't you attempting the SIL premiere? (Eileen), Of course, we Colin fans are *ahem* way too mature and intelligent for such over-the-top behavior! You are quite right. Most of us would not be able to say a single word to him if we ran into him.

prolier than thou Right, from proletariat. here is a new photograph of CF and Livia with her gazing into her eyes (her gazing into his eyes, right?) You are of course right again. Ooops, sorry! I do not have a scanner, nor access to one. I could send the photograh to someone. I have Renate's address but she seems to have vanished from view. I am happy to send it anywhere around the globe though I rather suspect that it will appear somewhere on the net before too long. Allison. BTW, why aren't you attempting the SIL premiere? I knew I shouldn't have delurked just before the premiere. I really am way too old for that sort of thing. 25 years ago I might have done it but now I would have to wear a false beard and dark glasses in case I saw someone I knew!

Maybe there's not an ounce of auto-biographical material is what he writes. To be fair he does not write much about his father apart from saying he was divorced from his mother and was abroad a lot. He also wrote that his own London accent was assumed, that his sister had a very upper class accent and his mother RP and that he was brought up in Maidenhead, a very pleasant town not far from London. It was only in the film that he was portrayed as being much less middle class. IMHO I felt this weakened the film.

Bethan,do you happen to know exactly when in June MLSF is to be released,I must say I am disappointed that they are releasing it in the summer,surely the Autumn or the Winter would have been better for this type of film, or at the very least the spring, the summer is for blockbusters,I can't see people leaving the beach or going to a dark cinema on a lovely Summer's day to watch a small film about an eccentric moss grower,not matther how gorgeous he may be.

At AnnW.'s request I called Corbett & Kenne(they are handling the publicity for SIL) this am to inquire if Colin Firth was scheduled to make any Television interviews....and they said "No, he is not". Any print interviews..."No, he is not".I didn't inquire about the other guys...I didn't care!! Obviously, you need Harvey in UK. (With luck,let's hope they're wrong...like the agent) Allison/Bethan...hey , I thought you said the article was a rehash...sound like new stuff to me. And the new pic too. This might be the only thing we get til MLSF promotions.

I hope I didn't come off sounding like the" superior sisters" in my last post about fans/stalking. My musings were not directed at any of you; if offence was taken, please accept my apologies. I think you are a wonderful group of women. Those of you who met Colin handled it with pluck and dignity. It has been great fun to read about your exploits. I, on, the other hand, tend to get very shy in such situations, for fear that I will act like Lucy Ricardo gushing over William Holden at the Brown Derby.

Arami and Bethan what about joining Ann at the premiere? Don't forget, I'm a closet Colin-fan! Borrowing and returning a copy of the ATA video requires cunning and subterfuge; hovering outside the Empire on a Tuesday evening is the equivalent of a major WW2 battle campaign! Anyway, if it's tickets only, I reckon the main emphasis will be on the post-premiere "bash" at the Cafe Royale or whatever! some sort of list Colin's people compile of wacky fans (Susan) I very much doubt if Colin has "people", maybe just a "person"...himself! However I did break cover today to buy a copy of She magazine(Allison) Ditto, Allison, although I did try to resist! I thought, for God's sake, I'm NOT buying that (You forgot to mention the 101 ways to improve your orgasm or the free "sexy" novel!), even if He is "in" it! But, I succumbed and bought, even though I knew it would be a re-hash. Which it is, not a bona fide interview at all. I recognise most,if not all, of the quotes, although they're re-worded and re-jigged. I think the comments on "class" date back to his Another Country days, when he was almost as young as your son, and so can be forgiven some silliness and immaturity! But by juxtaposing these remarks next to the Nick Hornby comments, they are made to appear more current. (BTW, NH's dad was Chairman of RailTunnel ) CF was obviously trying for some downmarket "street cred"!! Wi h privately educated, Cambridge Uni-type parents, and grandparents who were missionaries/principals of a theological college, he's hardly lower-middle class, even if (shame, shame!) he did fail his 11 Plus! I don't particularly like these reconstituted "interviews"....but, I guess the fact that She magazine chooses to run it must mean that they still think he's sexy, despite his continuing low profile! MLSF. Now Ann, I am going to have to insist on some positive thinking here! I'm pleased that it will be released ( a depressing number of films starring British actors never make the screens....for example, two recent Ewan McGregor movies have been "binned"). And I don't think we'll be seeing a demonstration of moss farming! I shall be eagerly wawaiting the kilt! I personally would watch any movie set in Scotland, becauuse I love the scenery,...and as for June, well, I'd much rather go out for a m al and then to the local multiplex 9pm on a summer's evening, than mid-winter!

True,, thankyou Bethan, it is always good to get others perspectives and I see your point.I shall certainly be one of the first at our Multiplex.

(Allison)only discovered a month or two ago tha NH's father is Sir Derek Hornby who is a big businessman and Director of I can no longer remember h w many major companies! At one point, Sir Derek Hornby was the head of Xerox, I believe. He also played a key role in the contruction of the Chunnel (see Bethan's comment). I remember reading something about NH's background, despite how much it's played down in Fever Pitch (both the novel and film version). I esp. remember his justification for getting into Cambridge: he said that the Oxbridge system was in the midst of opening-up opportunities to middle class kids, who otherwise might not have gotten in for lack of enough tale t, connections, or a posh public school background. He may not have been a stellar pupil back in Maidenhead, but I'm also sure that having Sir Hornby as his father made some sort of impression on the admissions committee, no?

I don't particularly like these reconstituted "interviews"....but, I guess the fact that She magazine chooses to run it must mean that they still think he's sexy, despite his continuing low profile! One wonders if the reason SHE magazine did this is because he refused to give them a live/telephone interview.Apparently he only likes mainstream media and this mag sounds tabloid-stuff.

Arami and Bethan what about joining Ann at the premiere? Were I a little closer to London, I suppose I might stroll past the cinema with an indifferent look behind dark glasses and a false beard... I could try and persuade my hubby to drive our getaway vehicle round the side streets for two hours (as parking would be impossible, of course), but I imagine he would advise me to cycle to the assignment (i.e. he'd say "On your bike, dear!", which is another expression for "get knotted"...) Moreover, judging by the state of the weather at the moment, anybody foolis enough to attempt waiting outside will be struggling with their umbrellas, trying not to get blown up, up and away Mary Poppins style, at precisely the moment that Colin dashes out of his limo and into the welcoming dryness and warmth of the foyer... Well, reluctantly and with great pangs of regret, but I don't think so... :-)

And I thought you guys were diehard Colin Fans!!! Sheesh! RE: Sir Hornby, are we absolutely positive he is NH's pops. I mean Hornby is a fairly common English name

(Arami) Well, reluctantly and with great pangs of regret, but I don't think so... :-) Don't blame you a bit, dear. I wouldn't do it either. Though I had classes the night of the NY premiere, I could have found a way if I really wanted to.

And I thought you guys were diehard Colin Fans!!! Sheesh! If he came to Oklahoma, Laura, I'd go meet him "in a surrey with the fringe on the top!!" (But it never rains here :-)

(Laura)are we absolutely positive he is NH's pops. I mean Hornby is a fairly common English name I'm afraid it's true, Laura. It's in his bio. I'll go look it up and come back with the URL. Regardless of his background, NH is still, quite arguably, one of the best contemp. writers out there. But that's not a debate is it? ;-)

Re: Nick Hornby This is from the Electronic Telegraph (April 4, 1998). The complete article is titled 'An unconvincing millionaire": He grew up in Maidenhead, a "soulless commuter town" from which he longed to escape - a desire first fulfilled by regular trips to Highbury to watch Arsenal. His parents divorced when he was a boy and his father, Sir Derek Hornby, went on to become a successful businessman - at different times, the chairman of Rank Xerox, number two to Michael Heseltine when he was President of the Board of Trade and the chairman of a consortium involved in the Channel tunnel. "I am not at all like him," says Hornby. "I could never have done a job in a suit because of him - presumably because there was no way I could have done as well as him. I suppose doing artsy things and drifting in and out of work was a form of rebellion."

I am posting this as my email is not working at the moment and I wanted all concerned to know that the A& E tape has arrived.It is wonderful, many thanks to all invloved in sending it to us..I will pass it on to M & E in due course. I thought he looked particularly good at the LA Premiere but I see what you mean about the "ticks", he did seem very nervous but it was rather cute. I still have hopes of getting tickets for the Premiere, I have been badgering the waiting-list lady, I shall just have to keep my fingers crossed as I too am a bit old to stand outside like a silly teenager. (sorry silly teenagers).

even if (shame, shame!) he did fail his 11 Plus! I have always wondered about this. Did they still have the 11 plus in Hampshire in 1971? the A& E tape has arrived Now how do I get a copy of that?? And from today's "Times", a snippet about SIL. Harold Bloom, a Shakespeare expert points out that the film is pure invention. Firstly, Shakespeare was the most prolific writer and seems never to have had writer's block. Secondly "It is unlikely that Wessex, Gwyneth Paltrow's buffoon of a fiance, played by Colin Firth, would insist on whisking her off ....to Virginia...Virginia was not settled until 1607 - 14 years after all the action in the film takes place.

Have I not said that about Virginia!!! hee hee;)

Tell Harold Bloom to put a sock in it. He apparently hasn't seen the movie so isn't aware the anachronisms are intentional. It's not a spoof but it certainly isn't history. I suppose he's trying to inform the poor gullible souls who believe everything they see on film or on the telly. Ann, I hope very much for your sake that you get tickets to the premiere but please don't feel you're letting us down if you don't make it to London. That's too much pressure to put on anyone. Interesting stuff about Hornby. Shocked me too. I must be one of those gullible souls who believes everything she sees in film or on the telly. Oh, Rita, let's hope Colin never comes here. I think it takes several doses to understand how harmless we are but I'm sure he'd never give us a second chance. Allison, while I had nothing to do with the tape (Ann W, Evelyn and Karen did all the work), I know you can get in touch with Ann to get on the lending list. Is your e-mail working yet, Ann?

Re: my previous comment about fans, Brad Pitt's break-in, etc., I also did not mean to imply that any of us here are wacky. We are obviously all in control of our obsession. So have no fear, Colin;-}

(Arami but I imagine he would advise me to cycle to the assignment (i.e. he'd say "On your bike, dear!", which is another expression for "get knotted"...) Is it a stationary bike? in which case.... ;-) (Allison) Harold Bloom, a Shakespeare expert points out that the film is pure invention...Virginia was not settled until 1607 - 14 years after all the action in the film takes place. Harold Bloom is an English professor who apparently has not researched early American colonization history. Virginia was Virginia since Sir Walter Raleigh's times (1580ish) and while the premise that Wessex goes to Viriginia was not likely it was not impossible. Info on this has been posted at #115 (SiL topic).

Have any of you seen the article in Now magazine? It came out last week while i was out of the country but Dolores has it on her CF Faces site. It is obviously a rehash plus some comments from the recent SIL press junket. However Colin does say that he is v content, sees a lot of his son, has a wife and they are enjoying their life together and he has "nothing planned"!! I wonder whether this has anything to do with Livia. Does she have a job? It would seem sensible for her to establish herself in some line of work before starting a family. I think Colin is the sort of man who would want his wife to have her own life. His mother had a profession and that would probably be his expectation for his wife. I keep thinking of that comment he made to Helen Fielding about having nothing fixed for the next three years. Eeeek! What do you think?

Pox on Harold Bloom. Don't you hate these experts who always want to deflate a good thing. ***** Allison...the tape is compliments of Drool. Sue also contributed the E! "blink-and you've-missed- him"at the LA premiere.We suggested you get a lending tape-train going.See what you miss when you don't post with us? Thanks for the new CFmedia info....could you pl. give me the URL of Dolores' website.? There are so many of them now. **** BRAVO is supposed to run the 7 minute SIL tomorrow at 3:45pm ET **** I have an extra A&E( NTSC )tape of CF's interview....in case someone didn't get it. Pl. email me. ***** ( SusanMC)... also did not mean to imply that any of us here are wacky. We are obviously all in control of our obsession. Speak for yourself...:-)We knowwe're wacky....but we have a good time!!

Karen: Is it a stationary bike? No: rather a non-existent one ;-). Which makes things pretty nigh impossible. * * * Did Harold Bloom suggest that Virginia hadn't existed before the specified time, or is it simply the question of when people started settling there? Allison: Nothing much is known about Livia, not even if she completed her doctor's degree, whether she's working or planninmg to pursue a career of her own: and it's a fair bet that the information will not be easy to obtain... On a purely speculative level, imagine juggling a nine to five type of job with marriage to a freelance bohemian - who at times works all hours away from home and at times not at all, and has a reputation for romancing his leading ladies... hm... what do you think?

Have any of you seen the article in Now magazine? (Allison) Ah, you're behind the times, Allison! Scroll back through the postings, and you'll find I waxed indignant about this (I just hate these "pseudo-interviews")and binned my copy! I think this is just another major re-hash, with perhaps some recent comments by Colin on SIL included. As my copy has been trashed, I can't rememember the exact wording, but didn't he "say" (allegedly) that he didn't know what he was doing next, but was excited at the prospect of what could happen and where it would take him. As an eternal optimist (sometimes) I took this to mean that he had some interesting options open to him! Slightly reviving the debate on CF's current "career break", one thing which has struck me, just from reading newspapers and media mags, is just how long it can take to set up projects and how they can also suddenly be put "on ice". For example, the filming of "Enigma" was due to start this summer, but the director signed up for the new James Bond movie, and there's now a 12 months delay. Working Title, who are going to make the movie version of BJD, have been embroiled in the takeover of Polygram by Univ rsal. TEP collapsed mid-filming because of lack of finance and was baled out by Miramax. CF may well have project(s) lined up, but sometimes there are last minute delays, particularly in the UK. As to Livia.....well, if she's able to spend 24 hours a day with him, day in, day out, they must have a very happy marriage or are still in their honeymoon phase!! Seriously, I should imagine she would want to make use of her qualifications (and he would want her to), but, as Arami comments, I'm sure we will NEVER know!

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If you still want to read the Now article, you can find it at Now Article I wonder if that will work!

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(Bethan), I am going to have to insist on some positive thinking here! I'm pleased that it will be released ( a depressing number of films starring British actors never make the screens....for example, two recent Ewan McGregor movies have been "binned"). Poor Ewan, for every three pictures released two are binned! If Colin sees a lot of Will he must: 1. Spend quite a bit of time in LA 2. Have a lot of free time 3. Is agressively pursuing Hollywood scripts 4. Is looking for a new US agent As for Livia, in Italy they can take forever to finish off a degree (the gov. is now thinking of setting time limits), La Statale di Roma is one of the top Universities in Italy.

This CF quote is from the February 1999 SHE article: "But so much of Darcy's appeal was simply to do with the costumes. Any reasonably fit man would look good in skin-tight breeches. When I wore football shorts in 'Fever Pitch,' for example, I think everyone could see that I was nothing out of the ordinary. My legs and arse didn't have the same effect on women at all. Quite the reverse, I imagine." He "imagines" WRONG!!! Maybe the Arsenal boxers don't do him justice but the gray shorts, that's another subject we've never tired of discussing. ;-)

BEthan....I am glad to see you so optimistic about his "career break"...Proud of you....you're keeping your New Year's resolution.!! I think he is waiting for a good script.Like SIL or TEP. Movieline has an interview with Dougray Scott...new British actor...who says he is sent dozens of scripts, most of the rubbish!!

Hi, I have had some trouble logging into the internet today but all seems well, at the moment.Allison I read your post this morning but have not been able to respond before but if you would like to email me or let me have your email address I will explain what is happening with the A&E video. I really enjoyed it , thankyou very much but I did think that Colin was looking a little chubbier in the face, too much pasta, but he is still a little cutie.

A suggestion, if I may, for Chat. So many times I go in and see people log in and log out almost immediately if no one is there. Perhaps if you want to go in chat to talk, you could sign in and if no one's there, go visit your other sites but don't sign off. Just check every couple of minutes. That's what I do but the danger is I'll forget to check back and then see someone was there, tried to reach me, and then logged off in frustration when I don't answer like what just happened with Ann W. Sorry, ear. But still, don't log out so quickly, ladies. Someone may come around if they see someone's hanging out in the chat room.

(Ann)Fever Pitch opens in the US on the 26th February, in NY & LA, I think. (winter)Thanks Ann! I see another mission in the works, my friends! Moon! Jana! Mark your calendars! The possibility of a US Premiere is not so far-fetched! Jana- you monitor the theatre entrance and Moon, you cover the back entrance! I'll guard the bathrooms! ;-) And hon, we know you have such success in the bathrooms :-). Just wait for Mrs. Firth and follow her back to the prize! I wonder if the DB will really come to L.A. for this movie opening? Wow! Exciting thought. I hope I'm not camped out in Manila again.

Okay, I was going to shut up about this and hug my annoyance to myself...but it's really getting UP MY NOSE! I expected to see something in the Sunday papers about SIL, and I'm right. The Sunday Telegraph plops through the letter box, and yes, SIL is featured. Full page poster ad (free tickets offer) with CF's name (4th billing)on the poster, although not mentioned in the text "starring, JF, GP and JD". Okay, can live with that. THEN, there's a feature on JF, fast rising Hollywood star (okay!)in SIL...." HE CAST ALSO INCLUDES GWYNETH PALTROW, GEOFFREY RUSH, JUDI DENCH, SIMON CALLOW AND TOM WILKINSON". I really do not believe this. And then to cap it all, the magazine runs a feature on MARTIN CLUNES, in his latest Shakesperian venture. I'm just not going to read the papers, til SIL is over. Honestly!!!Or maybe the Times and Telegraph think that their readers have no interest in CF...we're the brown paper bag "She" magazine brigade, worrying about our sex lives. Thank God his name is on the poster! But, I am not going to mention this again, and Ann, don't let it spoil your breakfast! A lot of people will rush to see this movie, and say "Hey, there's Colin Firth!" :-)

Hey, its okay Bethan in The Sunday Times Magazine, there is a large article and interview with Gwyneth Paltrow "Bards of a Feather" and Colin is mentioned twice!! Heading: "Judi Dench, Colin Firth, Anthony Sher, Geoffrey Rush: Gwyneth Paltrow is in good company in her new film SIL..." and then on the second page "that makes great use of its supporting cast. These include - deep breath here, Geoffrey Rush as a bedevillled theatrical impressario, Tom Wilkinson as an unctuous moneylender, Judi Dench as Queen Elizabeth, and wait for it Colin Firth as the Earl of Wessex, along with Imelde Staunton, Ben Affleck, Martin Clunes, Antony Sher, Jim Carter and The Fast Show's cunningly oafish Mark Williams." This time is poor old Rupert Everett who has been missed out. I was thinking things were looking up and then the Sunday Telegraph does this. The Sunday Independent is usually quite kind to Colin perhaps we should subscribe to that.

I am also suffering Sundayitis here. We also read the Sunday Telegraph! IMHO the Martin Clunes publicity is good. A lot of people who would normally stay away from a production like this will go and see this film because he is in it. (He is also a very good actor not just a laddish comic). Bethen, I think your previous comments about the precariousness of the British film industry and how productions are put off and dropped at the last moment is so true. It may mean that he is in talks about some leading roles which have not yet been given the green light. They often start negotiating with the star at an early stage. The lesser roles are usually signed up when plans are finalised e.g. SIL. There must be some reason why he is looking so relaxed!

Another thought - has CF ever given an interview to the Daily or Sunday Telegraph? I fear it would be like him to turn them down on political grounds, you know, UK droolers, the old Torygraph image not being quite his thing.

Ooh, thanks Ann! Just when I was about to subscribe to a conspiracy theory! And commiserations, Allison, we obviously get the wrong Sunday newspaper! And I've nothing against Martin Clunes....although after reading the article, I think Ben Affleck may be suing him!

And I've nothing against Martin Clunes....although after reading the article, I think Ben Affleck may be suing him! Do not stop there, do tell us why? BTW, BA & GP have broken up. (Allison), There must be some reason why he is looking so relaxed! Well he is out promoting a film, FP is to open in the US soon and MLSF in June.

Susan and others, your comments about Colin fans vs. Brad Pitt's overzealous lunatic were responded to "tongue-in-cheek," as I believe your comments were intended. Don't take offense (defense?). I think it was a good way to stimulate discussion. Re: lack of Colin-mention in some of the British press: were those articles failing to mention Colin written by men? Just a little theory I have...

Do not stop there, do tell us why? (Moon) Well, I'm not one to gossip, but, Martin said that his cod piece was bigger than Ben's cod piece, which he referred to as a "perky little thing". :-) I think men take umbrage at this sort of thing (though spoken in jest, of course)!!! Thank goodness Earls don't wear cod pieces..it sounds as though there was some locker room rivalry going on! Were those articles failing to mention Colin written by men? Just a little theory I have... (Eileen) I subscribe to your theory, Eileen! Allison, you asked about the Sunday Telegraph..I think he's given an interview to the Daily Telegraph (female interviewer!), and it was a very flattering one, but the Sunday Telegraph has some critics who should be hoist by their own petard. I still remember their review of P&P...lavish (and deserved) praise for the ladies, "but Mr Darcy is played by the not-so-handsome Colin Firth, who just stands around looking like a yeoman farmer". Ouch! No wonder he didn't win the BAFTA!. Having said that, I've seen orse comments about Kenneth Branagh, Rupert Everett and Alan Rickman, to name but a few! But I don't think Colin is one of the ST's favourites!

Evelyn, thanks for your quick answere ! So, I want to beg everyone to send me an e-mail where and how I can get my hands on the video-tape of the interview with CF. I have got a NTSC and PAL VRC ! I live in germany. So maybe if someone in the UK or germany (or from elswhere, it really dosn t matter ) has got the video and would be so kind to send me one tape I will (of course) pay for all costs. Please be so kind to answer me to: Sabinepalkowski@hotmail.com Thanks !! Biene

Know I have a question !!! Does anyone know when SIL will be shown in germany ?? Does anyone know about a premiere in germay with CF ??? Ann, I would like to meet you in London, but I can not get a day of on Tuesday to join you at the premiere :-( But maybe CF will be at the german premiere (Berlin, Hamburg, Munich) ??? Then I will flight there and make a lot of photos !! :-)

Sabine: If Renate doesn't have one in Germany, I'll send you mine since your VCR plays NTSC . Some way or another...we'll make sure you get to viewthe interview...it's a gem. And God only knows when we'll see another.

Sabine, I have the PAL copy of the A&E interview and I will be sending it to Maria and then she is going to send it on to Elena and Allison ,if you will let me have your address Allison. It could then be sent on to you but it may take a while. Perhaps as you are able to use PAL and NTSC it would be better if you take up Evelyn's very kind offer. If not email me and I will explain. BTW the London Premiere on Tuesday is according to Lisbeth's Timeline The European Gala Charity Premiere so maybe that includes Germany.

(Bethan) Well, I'm not one to gossip, but, Martin said that his cod piece was bigger than Ben's cod piece, which he referred to as a "perky little thing". :-) I think men take umbrage at this sort of thing (though spoken in jest, of course)!!! Thank goodness Earls don't wear cod pieces..it sounds as though there was some locker room rivalry going on! I recall reading about a similar competition between Crispin Bonham Carter and CF ..... they say it was only the stuffing shirt, but do you believe everything that's written? Wish I could also recall *where* I read it. ;-) Anyone here with a better memory? Sabine: Up to now the opening date for SIL was March 11, but latest news say it is March 4. Good news, don't you think?!

Renata, do you have a video tape of the interview with CF ? (Thanks for the eMail, Evelyn !) Do you know if there is a permiere in germany ?? And will CF be there ?? If there is a permiere of SIL in germany I will try to get there and make some photos ! (I think I have to buy a scanner then ;-) ) Sabine

Where on Murph's Corner are the new pictures from In Style and Premiere...all I can find is the SIL pics.?

I too am unable to find it, sorry for following you around Evelyn.I can't remember who posted the bit of news Evelyn, was it Karen. Good night.

(Bethan) Well, I'm not one to gossip, but, Martin said that his cod piece was bigger than Ben's cod piece, which he referred to as a "perky little thing". :-) I think men take umbrage at this sort of thing (though spoken in jest, of course)!!! Thank goodness Earls don't wear cod pieces..it sounds as though there was some locker room rivalry going on! I recall reading about a similar competition between Crispin Bonham Carter and CF ..... they say it was only the stuffing shirt, but do you believe everything that's written? Wish I could also recall *where* I read it. ;-) Anyone here with a better memory? Sabine: Up to now the opening date for SIL was March 11, but latest news say it is March 4. Good news, don't you think?!

"...And what's Crispin really like beneath the breeches? For a start, he wasn't wearing any underwear on TV. During the double wedding scene, parts of his anatomy needed rearranging to make them less prominent. "Colin (Firth who plays Darcy) got awfully jealous, actually," he says.[...]"There was quite a lot of thigh acting. Those trousers really accentuate the thighs. Instead of underpants, you make a kind of nappy [=U.S. diaper] with your shirt tail." (From "Profile: Crispin Bonham Carter", Daily Express This Week Magazine, 9th March 1996)

Didn't post that one a second time! Away with you, Count All-mushy! I am just beginning to wonder if it has something to do with Netscape, that it keeps messages in the cache if you don't close the program in the meantime? Ben, you had repeated messages recently, too. Which browser do you use? Sabine, have no SIL interview tape yet, and don't know when I get it. And when I get it, I cannot copy it because it will be NTSC. Don't know anything about a German Premiere, and, frankly, wouldn't expect it anyway. I'd rather hope for a festival - the Berlinale, f.e., but don't know if it is the right time for the opening of SIL. Can check tomorrow when the Berlinale will be. MLSF or SLOW sounds much more like Berlinale entries. It is possible that GP's name has some recognition here, and perhaps Geoffrey Rush and Judy Dench, too, but I don't think more than a handful of people - and I have corresponded with most of them :-) - know CF by name. They hid P&P in the Easter afternoon program when it was aired first, and the second airing was on Tuesday mornings at 9.03 a.m.. Please! The ZDF does not know what a gem they have! On the other hand, the last time they broadcasted Playmaker, they recommended it warmly as a suspenseful erot c thriller! But I am confident that SIL will be very successful here in Germany, same as TEP. It has apparently just the right mixture of romance, humour and culture/ambition to get all those into the theaters who go to the movies once a year only. I am already looking forward to it. They will say: "I have been to such a phantastic funny movie! You must go see Shakespeare in Love!" And when they ask me why I smile so secretly (like Seer�uber Jenny, or Ethel, the pirate's daughter ;-) ), I say: "That's the movie I told you about 3 months ago...you know, the one where Hillary Clinton attended the NY premiere." Hah! :-))

Renate...Sabine.... I will send you my NTSC this week...keepsies. Enjoy!

Would someone please post again the network on which CF will appear (in snippets of Tumbledown, I believe). It is Jan 21st as I recall, but cannot find anything in my TV schedule which resembles anything having to do with the Falklands War unless it is "Decisive Weapons" on The History Channel. Please?! Mahalo!

Yes, Marcia it is "Decisive Weapons, the Bayonet" on the History Channel (I printed out Karen's message.) (Bethan) "but Mr Darcy is played by the not-so-handsome Colin Firth, who just stands around looking like a yeoman farmer" Eeeeyouch! That's the first time I've ever read that quote. Good God, not so handsome? Yeoman farmer? Does this writer not have eyes? I feel as if I've been punched in the stomach :-). BTW, the LA Times published its 1999 sneak previews issue today where they write up a blurb on all the movies to be released. FP was listed as a Spring release, which is the first time I've seen it listed in print. Kind of comforting, actually. MLSF was listed for a summer release which I would also find comforting had it not been listed in last year's sneaks episode as a 1998 summer release!

(Evelyn)Where on Murph's Corner are the new pictures from In Style and Premiere...all I can find is the SIL pics.? I think you will find them if you go to the roles page and click on the premier pictures towards the top. (Bethan) "but Mr Darcy is played by the not-so-handsome Colin Firth, who just stands around looking like a yeoman farmer" Bethan, wasn't that A.N.Wilson's comment. I didn't read the original but he was quoted by somebody subsequently as one of the only anti voices and apparently he changed his mind as the series progressed. (Some source I am, I can never remember the details!)

I thought UK fans might be interested to know that the Big Breakfast Channel 4 will be reporting on the SIL Premiere on Wednesday morning, with interviews! (CF?)

That was some bum steer we got from Bravo (via RoP) about the 'Making of SiL' interview airing yesterday at 3:45. I had the VCR going and viewed the tape this morning--nothing. Rats! And my football team lost yesterday, making the day a wipeout. :-( Oh, well.

Big Breakfast Channel 4 will be reporting on the SIL Premiere on Wednesday morning, with interviews! (CF?) I shall set my video (VCR).

Thank you Allison. Let's hope they interview CF at the Premiere. **** Someone sent me the URL of Murph's pics of In Style and Premiere magazine. http://members.tripod.com/i_love_movies/sil/silpremx.html **** Sorry about yesterday's No Show of the SIL premiere on BRAVO. Someone posted the info on RoP Virtual Views.I should have confirmed with BRAVO: I know better than post someone else's info. AAA (Apologies All Around) An acronym I coined since I use it so much!! **** Great aft at the CF Chat Room yesterday....5 or 6 droolies....including Sha Xiao from China. Said she had seen P&P many times. We asked her if she saw it on Chinese TV or on a video...but I don't think she comprehended our question. Sunday afternoon about 4 or 5PM US CT 10/11pmUK GT seems to be pretty good. Did Nan ever set a time for us to meet?

Please let me know waht time we are all going to meet to chat. I missed it last time. I live in Central Standard TIme. Not so handsome.... who on earth would say that........someone who does not know the different between handsome and okay. Ann: I want to some to London also. Maybe this summer

I'm so excited I can't contain myself, was having trouble logging on to drool but everything is okay again. You will never believe it but we have got tickets for the Premiere, talk about last minute, just hope that wern't returned CF tickets, front row, hope its not too close but who cares. Sorry I have not been in touch Rita, been very busy and I am so thrilled to be ducky enough to get tickets, it is a bit more dignified that just standing outside. Will report back.

Ann, you go, girl! Hope you have a very firthfilling time! I'm looking forward to your report. Evelyn, we knew it wasn't your info; no need for AAA's. I don't think we ever nailed down a good chat time. For me, weekdays are better, but I think I'm in the minority. I'll go along with whatever is decided.

(AnnW)You will never believe it but we have got tickets for the Premiere I shall look out for you on the Big Breakfast!

(AnnW)You will never believe it but we have got tickets for the Premiere The power of positive thinking! Go to it! Maybe 1999 is going to be a good year! I'm pleased that the release dates of FP and MLSF are becoming more official...hey, that's three movie releases in the US in 6 months! That's what I call momentum! I'm hopeful we'll get MLSF in June/July as well. I've noticed that a lot of "British" movies (Hideous Kinky, Jackie and whoever) seem to have more or less simultaneous openings in the US and Europe. Allison, you're right....it was A.N.Wilson....tut! I'm getting my quotes all muddled. But I can recall a couple of sideswipes at CF that were definitely the Sunday Telegraph!! May it boil in oil!

re the Release dates in the LA Times, I hope I have not mislead anyone, I definitely read that FP was to be released on 26th February, but that would be winter 1999 not Spring1999.

Ann, Congrats on your obtaining SIL premiere tickets. A definite dream-come-true! I hope your courage will rise in the attempts CF intimidation and you will speak to the object of all our affection. I know if I ever had the good fortune to meet him,I would be absolutely tongue-tied or I would make a blubbering fool of myself and hate myseld the morning after. When exactly is this premiere? I will be looking for your report and remember, no detail is to small for us to know.

Congratulations, Ann, on getting tickets to the premiere. Have fun and take lots of pictures. Remember, Livia hangs out in the ladies. ;-) (Bethan) I've noticed that a lot of "British" movies (Hideous Kinky, Jackie and whoever) seem to have more or less simultaneous openings in the US and Europe. I've seen the trailer for Hideous Kinky several times and it looks really bad. Also noticed it received govt funding. Shame.

I just hope I haven't got Colin's returned tickets, and Sue the Premiere is tomorrow evening in London, The European Charity Gala Premiere, I feel very very lucky but I really hope you won't expect too much of me I'm afraid there is absolutely no chance I will speak to him but my eyes will be glued to every detail.

Ann, the Firth is with you!!! We know you can do it, don't forget the flash. I was unable to check Bravo at the appointed time (husband watching Italian football league), but I turned Bravo on around 4:30pm and caught the end of the SIL program Colin clip and all! Let's hope they show it again, I did not make it in time to record it. Ugh!

Hideous Kinky.......Also noticed it received govt funding Of the �60million invested in Brit funded films, �2million has been recouped so far. Ouch! (Although there are several films yet to be released) I hope SLOW bucks the trend...I was heartened to hear that it got a good reception in Martha's Vineyard! Isn't that rather upmarket though?

the Sunday Telegraph!! May it boil in oil! I know, but we have tried every other sunday paper and it is the one we come back to! So UK firthfans - which channels are you going to be covering on wednesday morning?

Which should be covered? Let's see the schedule and fix the duty rota.

Re: BRAVO....I have been informed thatthey were running late..but they DID show SIL at 4PM. If you saw the end at 4:30, Moon...they must have shown the long version. Rats....I'll call them again and see if I can nail them down. With these fillers, it's a little "loosey-goosey" on BRAVO....If a film runs short ...they throw one in....the fillers are never on the schedule. ****** We're with you in spirit...Ann ,ole buddie...nothing like a London Premiere.... the floodlights in the sky at Leicester Sq....the Red Carpet.... You'll tell your grandchildren about it.Esp. with this film which will turn out to be a timeless classic.Relish every minute.!!

FIRTHETTES IN GERMANY....From today's VARIETY: BERLIN � Oscar dark horse �Shakespeare in Love� will vie for a Golden Bear in competition at the Berlin Intl. Film Fest running Feb. 10-21, distrib UIP confirmed. Miramax�s Gwyneth Paltrow starrer will now screen Feb. 14. Insiders said the fest wanted the pic as its opening night film, but was pushed back because �Shakespeare� stars had filming conflicts on Feb. 10. Director John Madden is expected to attend.

(Moon)...but I turned Bravo on around 4:30pm and caught the end of the SIL program Colin clip and all! (Evelyn)Re: BRAVO....I have been informed thatthey were running late..but they DID show SIL at 4PM. If you saw the end at 4:30, Moon...they must have shown the long version. I tuned in to turn the tape off at about 4:05 and the scheduled movie was still showing. My guess is they aired the short version but closer to 4:30 as Moon noted. Curses! Just missed it! Your inquiries of Bravo are appreciated. Entertainment Tonight will be covering SiL's London premiere. Footage should air tonight. I suppose there's an outside possiblity of seeing Colin (if he should happen to walk by as they're grilling Ben or Gwyneth about their split). But you never know! Regardless, we'll have our insider there (Ann).

Thanks Eileen...for the ET info. Wow, if they get the footage tonight...nice goin'. They are flying Gwyneth over on the Concorde just for the day!! AnnW. says she will be in CF Chat Room tomorrow....now..get these times. 9PM UK time(Greenwich Time) 4PM Eastern, US 3PM Central 2PM Mountain 1PM Pacific

(Evelyn) chat tomorrow 4PM Eastern, US Drat! I'll be at school. Well, I'll catch you guys later in the week, I hope.

Does anyone know how find and post back issues of newspapers?? Specifically the Jan 11 issue of USA Today, pp 4D and 5D have two MARVELOUS articles on SiL; one on the historical verity of the various characters (Wessex included), and the other on all the Shakespearean "in-jokes" contained in the movie. A friend sent me a clipping of it. Can anybody retrieve??

FIRTHETTES IN GERMANY....From today's VARIETY: BERLIN � Oscar dark horse �Shakespeare in Love� will vie for a Golden Bear in competition at the Berlin Intl. Film Fest running Feb. 10-21, distrib UIP confirmed. Thanks a lot, Evelyn! Don't think I will be able to travel to Berlin myself, but someone from the Frankfurt Firth Flock will, so we'll get first hand reports. Speaking of which: I'm all anticipation what Ann will have to report.

WHOOOPEEEE!! I have just been informed that Yahoo UK reports that HE WAS THERE!!

Found it her it is...Yahoo, UK, Entertainment Tuesday January 19, 9:42 PM Paltrow Shines As Shakespeare Stars Arrive At Gala Hollywood's Gwyneth Paltrow wore a Ralph Lauren outfit and her British co-star Joseph Fiennes chose more humble togs to attend the premiere of the hottest new film comedy Shakespeare In Love. Paltrow may have been the main draw for what is already being called the film of the year, but she headed a distinguished British cast. Fiennes was joined by Colin Firth, Simon Callow, Tom Wilkinson, Martin Clunes, Mark Williams and Imelda Staunton at the charity gala at the Empire Leicester Square in London.

Evelyn, did you think he would not be there? I admit this is the one time that thought did not cross my mind. I am hoping to hear a full report from Ann in locuo and hopefully Bethan, Arami and Allison will have some news from the media as well.

(Moon)Re: HE WAS THERE Evelyn, did you think he would not be there? Enthusiastic declaration.....did not anticipate a "no show" .

Hi Everybody, It is late and we have just got in but I just had to put a few thoughts down before I went to bed. Firstly we had a wonderful time, but I am afraid I didn't get an autograph or a chat as Dame Winter did, unfortunately we were ushered to our seats but not before I saw Colin, and the first thing that struck me about him was how different he looked from the US Premieres, he has lost wieght, he looks younger and his hair is darker and styled differently, do you think it is a new image for a ne part!!! Bob Hoskins introduced the Gala on behalf of the Chicken Shed and Harvey Weinstein was there Evelyn. The best thing of all was that John Madden introduced all the actors present at the Premiere and they all came down to the front of the cinema, and there I am sitting in the front row, six feet away from you know who and I couldn't get over how young and boyish he looked. We have taken photos but I am not sure the flash was working properly, we will have to wait and see. We thought he and Mart n Clunes got the loudest clap!! am I biased. I was just going to put my thoughts down on about the film on this topic but just realised it should be on 115. One other thing there were masses and masses of cameras there and I noticed that the Gala was sponsored by Sky Movies so if any one in the UK has Sky I am sure they will have a report. An unforgetable evening but now it seems so unreal.

Dear Ann, I am so happy for you. Been waiting 'til late to check 'cause I knew you'd tell us first thing. I'll hop on over to 115 but please tell us: Shat was he wearing? Did you see Livia? What was she wearing? Was he smiling? nervous? when he had to go to the front? Any acknowledgment from him for the applause he got? So he looked a bit different than what you expected? Are you willing to say better? It's late so I'll look for you tomorrow. You're the only person I know of who went so any tidbit you give us will be a feast. Pictures would be the hot fudge sundae, of course.

Hi All: Murph here -- a long time/part time lurker, and an old (in more ways than one) FOFer. I just wanted to thank Ann for the info on the London premiere. Thinner? Darker hair? Different styling? I wonder if it is for a new part or Livia's doing. Can't wait to see the pictures. Murph

Hi all... finally got my network connection fixed. Please don't think I've just been lurking and unresponsive-- I've just had trouble posting things. (Moon-- if you check out VV over in Pemberley, I haven't responded yet to the further disc. of TTRL) ANN!!! Way too cool! I'll hop over to 115 soon to read more about your adventures! I'm so impressed by how close you got. So what about the new haristyle? Was it a little more styled or still moppish? We have taken photos but I am not sure the flash was working properly, Oh, I can identify too well. Keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Ann: You lucky girl. I am so thrilled that you got to go. Please, details, details,details...... Can't wait to see the pixs. You are truly a lucky girl.....

Yea Ann!!! So glad you got to see him up close and personal. I was worried that your front row seats might make it hard for you to enjoy the film, but it turns out you had the best seat in the house :-). Nice to see you here, Murph!

Up early to get the News programmes and the same story contines, everyone was interviewed or shown arriving expect Colin, hope someone is getting something, my best bet would be SKY but he definitely did a couple of interviews.Can't remember what GP was wearing except that it was white/cream and long, I was just so amazed as to how different Colin looked to what he looked in the A&E interview. He seemed pleased with his reception and seemed to be enjoying himself very relaxed, and was introduced just bef ore GP & JF,BTW he is taller than JF. Didn't see Livia much she was sitting towards the back of the cinema and came in after we sat down and left while the credits were going up. I do hope we get some pictures because I really thought he looked great. Allison I hope you get some coverage of Colin. I t ought he looked a bit tired in the A&E interview but here he looked full of beans!! Oh for some news.!!

Allison will have some news from the media as well. Well as I write I still have the video rolling on Channel 3 but I can report a short report on BBC1, interview with GP and short clip showing CF dancing but no mention. Big Breakfast, typically interviews with Imelda Staunton, Bob Hoskins, GP, is it Mark Williams (soap star??) Martin Clunes (he seems to be the UK answer to Ben Afflick as far as publicity is concerned and he is still going on about their codpieces!) and then Tom Wilkinson. Was just beginning to despair when I saw over TW's shoulder a wonderul smiling figure obviously being introduced to somebody. It was his loveliness himself. Must go and watch it another 20 times. Will try not to wear out the tape! Ooo Ann I am so glad you got a ring side seat. Lucky you. Shall now go over to 115 and read the details.

Aha! I told you Ann, 1999 is going to be a good year! Sitting six feet away from you-know-who in the front row. Couldn't be better. Well done! We have Sky, but I have to dash to work! Will watch this evening (too late?)

Aha! I told you Ann, 1999 is going to be a good year! Sitting six feet away from you-know-who in the front row. Couldn't be better. Well done! We have Sky, but I have to dash to work! Will watch this evening (too late?)

Allison, I can't believe it I am recording Channel 4, trying to cover both ITV and BBC, only one video and missed the BBC report, did I miss Colin and trying to post as well. Did you say you are recording BBC?

. Did you say you are recording BBC? No I didn't record BBC1 but I watched it. The mornign program there is very news based not a magazine format so it appered from what I saw that the premier was a news item with a sound bite from GP and a clip of JD with v small sight of our DB bowing and a scene I think of CF and JF dancing with GP. It was also on News at Ten last night which also had clips of CF. I did not record it, I am afraid. Ann, how are you feeling this morning. I cannot imagine how you must feel being so close to him. I feel excited just having seen a view of him on television, behind Tom Wilkinson's left ear! (Bethan)! We have Sky, but I have to dash to work! Will watch this evening (too late?) Isn't Barry Norman's show now on Sky? Just maybe, we might get an interview between BN and CF?

I can't believe it, three morning news programmes and he was not mentioned or interviewed on any. Thanks to Allison I caught of glimpse of him behind TW, on The Big Breakfast, but it you blinked you would miss him, however, I think Allison will agree with me that he looked very good and very relaxed.Why can't I be a fan of someone who gets more media attention it is so frustrating I so wanted everyone to see pictures of him to see if you agree with me how different he looks from the A&E interview. Al ison I don't usually buy Hello or OK magazines but I think it will be a must this week also can anyone get today's Evening Standard, I'm sjure they will have a report but it will probably all be about GP & BA splitting up. Sorry to sound so downbeat after last night must be tired.

I shouldn't be posting here. I am trying to prepare for an important meeting but can't resist, it is much more interesting than budget forecasts! I shall definitely buy the Evening Standard. I shall also buy the Friday edition for a few weeks to come because I have noticed that the magazine which will almost certainly have pictures, is usually works several weeks in arrears! Ann, I thought he looked wonderful and I liked the way he looked so pleasant and friendly as he was being introduced. I kept thinking that he looked the sort of person who would be really nice to know. I have to confess that having read some of his past interviews, I haven't been to impressed by what appear to have been attempts to claim street cred and had previously thought that I would go a long way not to meet him to avoid disappointment. But recently I think he has changed. I think he was probab y a rather well brought up middle class boy who, working in a very liberal industry , had assumed this bohemian attitude which doesn't quite fit him. Or maybe that is just wishful thinking! There doesn't seem to be much of the bohemian about Livia! I wonder if his parents are pleased that he has settled down at last! The Now interview implied that. Having read that - don't I sound OLD. Like Bethan, I am beginning to feel like a mother hen.

Hi there! I've scanned the quality press (at work) and there's a photo of GP in the Telegraph, otherwise no coverage. But I note that in Allison's paper (!) the Mail, there's a front page pic of GP and a five star review. (With yet again, no mention of CF, other than as playing the "Duke" of Wessex!)

Oooohhh, Ann, how did you manage not to slide out of your seat? What a moment! And kudos to Allison, Bethan and Ann for covering all the talk shows. I thought that was rather well coordinated! I share your disappointment at the lack of Colin coverage but by now I'm getting rather resigned to it. Perhaps the interviews will continue as the movie plays and becomes popular. Entertainment Tonight did cover the premiere, but as I expected it was focused on GP. They re-ran clips from BA's interview over the weekend re: their split. Great PR for the movie, though. Momentum is building. The GG's are to be held this Sunday. I'm intrigued by the fact that Colin looks so different, Ann. Darker hair, lost weight (and he was just starting to look healthy again, compared to a few years ago when he did ATA). Hmmmm.... looking forward to further discussion when we get together for the chat later today!

Ann, Did your pulse start racing, heartrate accelerate, get warm and sweaty-all signs of Firthitis (coming into close vicinity with the man himself). You lucky gal! Thanks for the report. It sounds like a wonderful time was had by all. I can't believe Britain doesn't support it's own stars a little more. I can understand why he didn't get a lot of press here, but you would think in the country where is a name, he would be mentioned more.

Bravissima Ann! I too am so curious to see the pictures. Was his hair longer, those wonderful curls showing? I do prefer him with darker hair. Heide had lots of good questions. Welcome Murph, so nice to have you post, it makes it all so firthfilling. I will try to be at Chat this afternoon. Now, I'm off to check the SIL post.

Moon, his hair is shorter and as I say he looked so boyish, and so much younger, and really too thin again. Whatever he is doing I wish he would tell me, I could do with losing a few pounds and looking younger!! I have been out shopping this morning and scoured the newstands, the best picture of Colin & livia is in The Sun! with short write up, also a picture in The Evening Standard but they left Colin's name of the distinguished british cast again, He certainly is Mr. Invisible Bethan,so the Sun gets my vote. I would have loved for you all to have seen him, he looked absolutelty gorgeous and happy, I have never seen him smile soo much and he was in a suit, I think Livia is a good influence on him.

Oooh! Thanks for the above Ann! Makes very good reading, and more than makes amends for the oversights in the press.. although the Sun has the largest readership in the country....more than all the broadsheets put together! I'm beginning to wonder if Colin actually looks "older" and heavier on screen. I've seen several comments to the effect that he looks younger, more boyish, slimmer etc in the flesh. I've never heard anyone say "Hey, I met Colin Firth and boy, was he fat!" And he can't be yo-yo-ing up and down all the time. Doesn't the screen add several pounds to normal weight? And of course, we rarely see him smile on screen! BTW, if he's had a hair re-style, maybe he's being groomed for a new film role! He doesn't seem to be unduly concerned about his appearance otherwise, so maybe this is a sign. Did he look like Mark Darcy, Ann? :-)

Bethan, Iagree that being on television and on film can put on pounds, but he looks quite skinny now, whereas on the A& E video he(i hate to say it) tended to look a bit chubby around the neck and cheeks and it does show up a bit in the film but then it does make him look broad and strong which isright for thepart. As to Mark Darcy, no I think he looks too young, Mark Darcy would be what 40ish and Colin I think looks about 30 and I also imagined Mark Darcy would be quite stocky, stocky would be better fo Colin too if he wants a part in Mary Queen of Scots, don't you think Bethan. If we don't get some news soon will some brave person please ring his Agent I keep hearing of lesser actors having two or three films lined up.

I forgot to mention that there is a picture and short article in the main section of today Times, and this time they have mentioned him.

I went out and bought the Evening Standard. No mention and no picture. Has he become a non person in such a short space of time? Famous for 5 minutes and all that. The press has such a short memory span. Ann, did you buy a copy of the Sun? What was Livia wearing? Details for the starving...Please.

Bethan, will you please still check Sky news when you get home, they may still be running th story, he must have done an interview for somebody.I really must get on with some work!

Well the unbelieveable Allison, I only bought it lunchtime, News Extra edition and it has a special supplement "25 reason why you should see this film" and Colin is listed No. 5 reason "This may be the first ever film in which Colin Firth does not score",don't quite no what they mean as he didn't "score" in TEP but I expect it is a clever remark to do with FP. I would be pleased to send it to you if you like.

Well girls....aren't you proud of our Ann!!! And nothing like a good report to bring 24 postings this morning! Murph....we are VERY glad to have you with us....you belong to spring and we need you. Bring Mari along next time. See everyone at Chat this aft.in US (UK 9pm). (Moon, I'm working on BRAVO to repeat SIL...stay tuned)

(AnnW)the best picture of Colin & livia is in The Sun! with short write up Is this the edition you bought?

Ann, thanks for the thrilling report! I'm reading it (and the followup comments) here at work with a huge grin on my face, and my coworkers are all thinking I've gone mad! (If they only knew.) What luck to be in the front row -- I would have melted into a puddle. I for one think the style change is definitely indicative of a new role (quick, someone give me some wood to knock on!)

I can't believe Britain doesn't support it's own stars a little more. (Sue) Actually, the coverage of SIL is rather good for a non-royal personage attended premiere. I don't recall many (any?) premieres being covered by News at Ten. And although I don't like the Sun newspaper, 4 million people do! Mark Darcy would be what 40ish and Colin I think looks about 30 (Ann) I think Mark Darcy would be 38 and very slim!:-) "About 30"...Wow! Way to go, Colin! Any more details of his reception by the audience, Ann? Much applause? Did he smile a lot? Look pleased? Hope Harvey noticed that he was popular! Who cares about the press!!

I can't believe Britain doesn't support it's own stars a little more. (Sue) Actually they were! Simon Callow, Tom Wilkinson, Martin Clunes, some soap star I have never heard of but everybody else has, GP whom the press regard as honorary British (though she was very rude about "bubble and squeak" which proves she cannot be not really British). The problem is that CF is yesterday's news!! But according to Ann, he seems very happy about it so perhaps as he says, he doesn't give a sh*t about fame, or he has another juicy job lined up and can afford to smile.

Firstly Allison, I thought you might be interested to know that if you go to this page www.thisislondon.co.uk and scroll down you will be able to read the article I told you about in The Evening Standard, no pictures of Colin & Livie and they have left him out off the cast list but you may find it interesting also the" 25 reasons why you should not miss this film "or something like that and yes that was the editon of the Sun I bought lunchtime Bizarre page "No fiennery for Bard Joe" And under Colin & Livi 's photo is the caption "Firth Night" and under Martin Clunes photo "Behaving Bardly" Clever or wot. I will send both pictures to Karen to see if she can do anything with them. Also I am afraid that the photos we took weren't brilliant but there is one with the whole cast standing at the front of the cinema that it quite good of Colin so I will send that also. Sorry we didn't have much success but it realy was bedlam in the foyer and I really think we shouldn't have taken one photo inside the cinema let a one 4 or 5. Bethan have you had time to check Sky News, I do wish you could see him being interviewed, he look great ,suit and tie and his hair much shorter. He smiled a lot and seemed very happy and relaxed and was grinning the whole time he stood at the front of the cinema. Everyone seemed very happy as well they should especially Harvey W. BTW I think someone asked me where they went for the after show party, well according to the Evening Standard" 500 guests were taken by coach to the imposing Merchant Taylor's livery hall in the City, parts of which date back well before Shakespears's time. In great rooms and corridors awash with tulips and roses, juggle s, fire-easters and street players in Elizabethan costumes entertained guests as they supped chanpagne and demolished, salmon, venison, suckling pig and syllabubs." Very nice.If I think of anything else I will post right away.

If I think of anything else I will post it right away.Oh I thought he voice sounded wonderful on screen, should that be on 115. (that sounds a bit daft sounded wonderful on screen but you know what I mean)

Oh, Ann, have read all your write-ups and look forward to being on Chat a little later on. Will be scouring the local news stands for the Sun and the rest that had pics! Glad to hear that Colin looked fit and trim and, as-ever, boyishly handsome! I do hope that the change in hairstyles does signify a *new* role!! What did it look like to you? Is Mark Darcy possible? Or did he look like a spy-type for that Marked Man project? We are all eyes and ears!! Allison, have received your package. Thank you. I have the February SHE article all typed up and will upload later today. I will also scan in the pictures separately. Am not that talented to be able to incorporate images in the text yet. Am at the baby step stage... (KJArt) Does anyone know how find and post back issues of newspapers?? Specifically the Jan 11 issue of USA Today, pp 4D and 5D have two MARVELOUS articles on SiL; one on the historical verity of the various characters (Wessex included), and the other on all the Shakespearean "in-jokes" contained in the movie. A friend sent me a clipping of it. Can anybody retrieve?? Try this: For "Finding the Laughs Between the Lines" Jan 10, 1999 http://www.usatoday.com/life/enter/movies/lfilm487.htm Unfortunately, the other articles I printed don't have the location on the header. Some idiot must have changed the specs on me!! Will keep looking, but I do have hard copy if you want it. (Let me know) Welcome, Murph! Do not go gentle into that deep, dark lurkdom....at least not while we are all a-Firthfrenzied!! ;-D

I hope I haven't mislead everyong, when I say he has had a change of hairstyle, what I mean is it is now much darker, and whereas it was falling over his face at the LA Premiere it is now much shorter and straighter at the front and oh I do hope it is it for some forthcoming role Darcy, Marked Man anything or else we are going to run out of films to discuss and go and see. Talking of forthcoming, in the Programme where they do a little bit on the actors under Colins list of films is says ..."and the fort coming Miramax film MLSF," so it must definitely be forthcoming. (I do not have the programme at the moment, but it is something like that. It is a lovely large shiny programme with lots of information.

The problem is that CF is yesterday's news!! (Allison) Oh, you're beginning to sound like me, Allison! Or me, as my former self! Before I was reborn. :-) My 1999 self is super-optimistic and quite positive that this will be a good year for CF! Don't forget that She magazine only recently nominated him as sexiest man (over thirty, but still...!) :-) Hey, Ann, he wore a TIE!!?? He's really smartening up, or maybe Livia has taken him to task and chucked out his old wardrobe! Glad to hear that MLSF is being promoted. David(Lord) Puttnam features very strongly in the media these days, and his name alone will guarantee that in the UK, certainly, MLSF will garner respectful coverage. Re. CF's consistent omission from the cast list, when people like Simon Callow are mentioned. There's normally a brief studio handout which is circulated to the press for information when premieres are held etc. Perhaps CF's name was accidently omitted and the omission was then repeated. I've not seen anything on Sky News, but popular demand in our household is for CNN (the State of the Nation address!), so I may have missed it. We don't subscribe to Sky movies , I'm afraid, so no Barry Norman either! Clutching at straws, but the change of hairstyle does sound promising..it's fallen over his face for years, why change now? Hmmm? :-)

I missed the chat, but have a picture from the Evening Standard thanks to FOFer Martine at this URL: http://members.tripod.com/~i_love_movies/sil/silpremx.html Also, I have that USA article at Murph's Corner. It is fun! Thanks for your welcome. I will stop by more often. Murph

Murph, we're at Chat *now*,go there!

25 reasons why you shouldn't miss it Shakespeare In Love Joseph Fiennes, Gwyneth Paltrow, Geoffrey Rush, Judi Dench. Dir: John Madden. by Pete Clark 1. Kenneth Branagh has had nothing whatsoever to do with this film, Shakespeare in Love. 2. Gwyneth Paltrow and her real-life boyfriend allegedly split up because he took exception to the sizzling nature of her love scenes with Joseph Fiennes. This is your chance to judge the validity of his case. 3. This the first chance to see an actor from the Fast Show (Mark Williams) tackle a part of profundity. 4. The screenplay, written by Tom Stoppard, allows those of us who studied Shakespeare and the generation of bloodthirsty Jacobeans who came after to quietly congratulate ourselves on spotting literary in-jokes. 5. This may be the first film ever in which Colin Firth does not score. 6. An opportunity to pay public homage to director John Madden, the only man to have successfully curbed the over-exuberant actorly tendencies of both Antony Sher and Simon Callow. 7. A once-in-a-lifetime chance to see Martin Clunes as a man behaving well. 8. As it takes two to tango, Joseph Fiennes also takes his clothes off in the love scenes with Gwyneth Paltrow. No girlfriend has as yet walked out on him so perhaps he does not have one. Your chance to audition imaginatively for that role! 9. "Spot the deliberate anachronisms" in Shakespeare in Love is sure to become London's favourite dinner-party game. 10. Marvel at the versatility of Geoffrey Rush as he forsakes the piano to play percussion with his dentures. 11. See Judi Dench as a spiky, blisteringly intelligent Elizabeth I, coming on like M in a ruff and whiteface. 12. See Gwyneth Paltrow don moustache and beard in a doomed attempt to play a man in a society in which no women were allowed on stage. 13. Marvel at the uproar when her deception is unmasked, and reflect on the fact that this precipitated a social revolution, eventually allowing Nicole Kidman to take the London stage without fear of censure. 14. Wonder at the stiffness of the magnificent collars worn by the cast at a time when dry cleaning and the steam iron had yet to be invented. 15. This film centres around an object lesson in the importance of titles. As Romeo and Ethel, the Pirate's Daughter, the featured entertainment was going nowhere. Then the name was changed to Romeo and Juliet and the rest is history. 16. Shakespeare has recently been voted British Personality of the Millennium by Radio 4 listeners. Do you agree with the verdict of the pointy-heads? 17. It is impossible to resist any film which has a running dog gag. 18. It is equally impossible to resist any film which explores the origins of the humourous tendencies of London cabbies. 19. The second most famous playwright in the film does not appear on the credits, nor does the name of the flamboyant actor who plays him. Who are they? 20. Shakespeare in Love is a girls' movie, for boys. 21. See Hugh Fennyman (Tom Wilkinson) addressing his assembled cast of actors: "Now listen to me, you dregs," showing that attitudes towards thespians have evolved over the past 500 years not a jot. 22. The movie contains a great cigarette joke: "I fancy tobacco has a future." This is said by the villainous Lord Wessex, which gives it a slightly sinister ring. 23. The film is worth seeing just for the bloodthirsty, animal-torturing boy John Webster, who, when asked his opinion of Romeo and Juliet, replies tersely: "Plenty of blood." Webster grew up to be a leading playwright of the Jacobean era, who were to drama what Hammer Horror was to cinema. 24. Nod sagely at the refrain "It's a mystery," usually said by Philip Henslowe (Geoffrey Rush), which is used in the context of debt and money but has an underlying meaning about the alchemy of acting and writing. Very smart. 25. Finally, we must all see the film in order to support Gwyneth Paltrow's campaign to become a naturalised Englishwoman.

Click on this for the February 1999 She article that Allison so kindly sent to me. I will get the pictures on within the next couple of days. Sorry. http://www.spring.net/~KarenR/articles/SHE0299.HTM

(Allison), GP whom the press regard as honorary British (though she was very rude about "bubble and squeak" which proves she cannot be not really British). Please explain b&s. Murph, in that picture Livia looks like she could be pregnant. She always wears pants now, maybe her skirts no longer fit. Colin looks fab! A four button suit, very chic. I look forward to seeing all the pictures, thanks Ann and thank you Karen for posting them.

Wow! Cool jacket. Livia must be having an influence but what's with that tie? Gotta check it out again. Thanks, Mary. Not too sure about Livia's outfit. Did you see more of it Ann? Moon, ever optimistic about the bambino but eventually you'll be right and be able to say, "See? I told you so." ;-) He does look very happy. I'm glad, Ann, you found him so charming. He certainly hasn't stepped wrong yet with all the lucky people who have seen him so far. Did I miss anything at Chat?

TV ALERT US Karen just called to report that E! News Daily covered the SIL Premiere and Colin's interview is featured. This will be re-aired probably tonight and tomorrow morning and at noon. Check out Access Hollywood for the Premiere coverage.

WOW! I've been gone 24 hours and the place has gone bananas! Ann - well done, gal. And welcome, Murph. What a great day in Drool, everybody. So, I wasted my time watching Big Breakfast - I guess it's good for laughs and for very young at heart. I suppose I should have felt better for it, but I really wanted to see Colin. Instead there was Martin Clunes, best known for a comedy series "Men Behavibg Badly", and habitually exploiting the crude laddish-clownish image at every opportunity. Here's what he said to the blushing girl reporter: MC: Did you notice I had the biggest codpiece in the film? R: Nno, I... MC: Oh, why do I bother! Yeah, I did! Ben Affleck... (shows the tip of his little finger) Chipolata! Past it!... [cut]

(Arami)WOW! I've been gone 24 hours and the place has gone bananas! Hmmm... Didn't notice with the place going bananas;)

Moon, re your bambino comments perhaps that why Colin had this silly grin all over his all evening,it wasn't anothing to do with an exciting brand new role!!

all over his face, of course. Sorry Heide didn't really see Liv ia but she is so beautiful she looks great in anything but I agree it doesn't look very flattering. Glad to hear you may be able to see him being interviewed, I knew there had to be an interview somewhere but why not on UK TV!!

(Arami)Past it!... I am fairly sure he said "pasty", as in Cornish pasty? And while we are on the subject of British food - Please explain b&s. Bubble and Squeak consists of cold mashed potato and other vegetables, (traditionally just cabbage), mashed together and fried into a sort of vegetable cake. I love it, particularly with lots of Worcestershire (spicy)sauce. Much eaten on the day after Christmas Day (Boxing Day) with cold turkey.

(Moon)Murph, in that picture Livia looks like she could be pregnant. She always wears pants now, maybe her skirts no longer fit. Like you Moon, I have been wondering about that picture. I am also surprised that it did not appear in the edition of the Evening Standard which I bought. The Standard first gets to the news stands around midday and there are about 3 editons. I bought the second. The pictures there were of JD, GP and Bob Geldorf! It occurs to me that the picture on Murph's site is from the first edition and was taken at the screening. Did Ann say that JD was not at the cinema? Then the second edition had photograp s from the after show party. I have a feeling that CF and Livia did not go to the party. That is why there is no mention of them in that context. Could that be because she was feeling tired??? Okay I have an overheated imagination and am too fond of deduction but I am the undisputed Cluedo champion in our family.

She doesn't look pregnant.

(Moon)Murph, in that picture Livia looks like she could be pregnant. She always wears pants now, maybe her skirts no longer fit. (Allison)Like you Moon, I have been wondering about that picture. Great minds think alike. That was my very first thought when I looked at the picture, before reading your posts. She looks fuller in the bosom, but it's hard to make a comparison to the other shots because they're not from the same angle. Well, this will give us something new to speculate about! ;-) I read that She article. I agree it's very similar to the Now article over at Dolores' site (hope the She pictures don't include that hideous purple suit) with all the recycled quotes. They didn't get some of the info correct, either--said he met Livia in '97 (wasn't it '95?). Gee, they should've checked with us! Hey, it was great fun chatting yesterday. Sorry you missed it, Heide. Maybe next time we can do it a little later for those of you in Mtn and Pacific time (if our European friends don't mind a late night). :-)

Sorry I missed you guys in the chat. SIck child again. Ann: COngrats I am so glad that you have had the time of your life. Thank you for letting all of us know how it went.

Thanks for the b&s explanation Allison, I will have to try it someday. Is there anything else worth knowing about that might make one truly British? It would be a shame if Colin really did not attend the post premiere party. Sometimes deals and casting ideas do come up and it is always v. useful to an actor to attend. Livia not feeling well is the only acceptable excuse. If he were cast as M. Darcy, I think we would know by now, no? I missed the E interview Evelyn, drats again!

Karen, have you actually seen the E interview and if so how do you think he looked and was his hair darker or was I imagining it, it was very dark inside the cinema.

I am fairly sure he said "pasty", as in Cornish pasty? Chipolata and pasty? What sort of diet is that? (Very SIL-ly...;-))

I wonder if his parents are pleased that he has settled down at last! The Now interview implied that. Having read that - don't I sound OLD. Like Bethan, I am beginning to feel like a mother hen. (Allison} Donning my mother hen hat and feathers, I'm sure his parents are delghted! Livia seems like ideal daughter-in-law material, and not a log cabin in sight! So, I wasted my time watching Big Breakfast (Arami) That's what I call real devotion! Martin Clunes....yawn, yawn. Why doesn't he give poor Ben Affleck a break?! I have a feeling that CF and Livia did not go to the party. (Allison) I'm sure they would go (or what would Harvey say?)! An instance (yet again!) of name omission, probably. Interesting snippet in the Times Diary (take with pinch of salt) referring to JD's and other cast members' dislike of GP's alleged diva treatment on set. Relations between the two were reported still to be cool at the post-premiere party. I'm trying to remember where (on the net) I saw a photo of John Madden, GP, CF and BA together. All looked very friendly. CF was between GP and BA, and had his arms round both of them. GP had a big grin on her face, BA looked serious. If he were cast as M. Darcy, I think we would know by now, no? (Moon) No, we wouldn't know! I've rung up Working Title twice and it's like getting information from the Pentagon. I think they'll be shooting in the summer and it sounds as though they won't release details of casting etc until just before the shoot.Anyway, no-one else has been cast as MD! I think this is a good project..Working Title produced Elizabeth, Bean, The Borrowers and Four Weddings, all major commercial successes.

Ann, I just finished watching the E News Daily piece and his hair did seem quite a bit darker. I like his hair shorter. I wish I could say the same for Livia's hair which I wish she would have kept longer. Maybe it's a new more maternal hairstyle if what some people suspect is true. Also that suit made him seem v. thin. How much weight could he actually have lost in a month? He's prob. just wearing better fitting clothes and just has a decent haircut.

Oh Sue, thankyou for confirming those facts to me I was beginning to imagine I had made it all up, I think it is for the better what did you think and how long was the interview and did he say anything interesting.

so many questions,Sue and I was there! Did you also think he looked younger?

Ann, there wasn't any interview on E! They covered the London premiere and showed Tom Stoppard, Colin, Joe Fiennes and GP, in that order. When they mentioned the "bigwigs" of the cast who attended, first was Geoffrey Rush (I think, but they didn't show him) then Colin's name. JF came next. Not bad!! Colin's hair was definitely shorter and curlier, but then again that may just be function of curly hair (the Shirley Temple syndrome) ;-o I thought Livia's hair looked about the same as in NY, about chin length. JF looked like he was wearing the same as he did in NY, the darker blue shirt again. Guys and dressing!! Colin's suit was definitely the current style, higher lapels and all buttoned up. I will have to take a closer look at that tie again. But the best part was the smile and how comfortable he looked...despite his lack of notice by the press! Today was pretty good. A double dose of Colin. First the repeat of the E! segment and then the History Channel program on the bayonet, with a snippet from Tumbledown.

No interview, what a disappointment, but how much was there of Colin and did you think he looked thinner and younger.

(Ann)did you think he looked thinner and younger. Yes, I can definitely say he looked younger, but I couldn't tell about the thinner part. The suit was all buttoned-up tight. I will go home and study my tape, but from that angle, he looked stuffed in there! He did not look heavy--at all. OK?

he looked stuffed in - thats the style of the suit but don't you think he looked well compared to when he was in LA, I thought he looked the best he has looked in a long time, not that he isn't always gorgeous, sorry to go on and you needn't answer.

Yes, indeedy, he looked very well - very groomed, for a change. I'm a Fever Pitch kind of gal myself but it's nice to see him so well tended. Don't give up on the interviews, girls! It took a while for any to show up over here too. After all, the film hasn't opened yet. Keep your eyes peeled for us.

Nan or somebody would it be possible to put a photo up of Colin at the Premiere, with you snappy, although I was there I would love to see a full length photo.

As someone with extremely curly hair, the shorter it is the curlier it becomes. The longer it is the wavier it becomes. The weight of the hair pulls the curl out, obviously. I haven't seen the E interview;( But this obsession with whether or not Mrs. Firth is pregnant is a little.... ;-) I thought it was just an ugly top.

Sabine...your Interview Tape of Colin on A&E is en route to Germany..... Courtesy of Drool. Enjoy:-)

UK fans Gwyneth Paltrow is being interviewed on This Morning with Richard & Judy next Monday the 25th, you never know they may mentilon our DB.

Ann, What was on E! News was a 2 blink glimpse of Colin and Livia as opposed to to the 1 blink glimpse of him on the previous E!News segment on SIL premiere. I think his suit was just v. fitted, not that he lost weight. I think the clothes he wears make him look thinner or heavier as with all of us. Thank God those huge sweaters are out of style. A shorter haircut on him looks better since his hair is slightly thinning. I thought he looked really good. I thought Livia's hair was shorter than at the U.S. premieres but it was only a quick glimpse of her-I was fixated on Colin.

I've been lurking here for a while and know that someone here will be able to answer my question. I apologize in advance if it was previously answered, but I couldn't find the precise answer. I've begun reading Nick Hornby's "High Fidelity" and am enjoying it immensely. I alsolearned that his "Fever Pitch" was made into a movie with CF. It appears that the movie was released everywhere but the US and is out in video. Is it available in the US at local video stores, or are special arrangements needed? Thanks for your help!!

Kate: Fever Pitch is available on video in the PAL format (UK and other places). The movie is supposed to open in NY and LA in March per the most recent information from the distributor and then around the country shortly thereafter. One can only hope that it will be released on video in the US after that. In the meantime, it can be ordered from places in the UK and then converted. Hope that helps... Sue, I thought Livia's hair was about the same. Should we do a side by side of the pics? Will need someone more talented than myself.. :)

Hi Kate and welcome. Fever Pitch is to get a limited release in the US next monthh I believe (26th Feb?), in NY & LA, don't know when the video will be released in the US. I am from the UK and have seen the film and thoroughly enjoyed it, Cf was as usual great in it but it is a very differend part fro Mr. D.

This is the picture from the SHE article that Allison sent me. The other two have been posted before.

Here's another of Colin in a REALLY ugly shirt (from the same article):

Sorry, I couldn't deal with the crease in the picture. Will need to play with these graphics packages. Airbrushing didn't seem to do it....

I am getting a bad reputation with my local newsagent! Okay magazine lists Colin as 83rd in the list of top UK entertainment earners. Last year he earned �750,000!!! For a self confessed left winger (okay, I won't get into a political argument on Spring) that is a lotta dosh for little work!! No wonder he doesn't bother to work hard.

A shorter haircut on him looks better since his hair is slightly thinning (Suzanne) Tut! Sacrilege! :-) Heide, you asked about how the SIL promotion was going in the UK...whether we'd seen "everything". The normal promotional surge is usually the weekend before the weekend when a movie opens. I think marketing in the UK is really muted compared with the blanket coverage in the US. For example, Little Voice opened with (I think) just one print interview with Jane Horrocks, although LV seemed to get a lot of attention in the US. I think SIL has done very well, and the Golden Globe/Oscar hype will help it. The attention is mainly on GP, and to a lesser extent on JF, and I really didn't expect much focus on Colin, except to remember he's in it!!!! Hopefully he'll be to the fore for MLSF! Interesting report on the UK radio. SIL is apparently ("allegedly") gaining a groundswell of support and may even beat Private Ryan to Best Picture. The report also mentioned a few "British" movies which will start shooting this year and are currently "in development". They include (I was pleased to note!) my big three : Bridget Jones, Mary Queen of Scots and Enigma, all part funded by the US film industry (no further details given).But it doesn't seem as if the British film industry is exactly flourish ng at the moment....we're not awash with many stimulating or entertaining new projects. Which may part explain CF's "break"! One good point for SIL, my 14 year old son and his friends saw the trailer and are actually planning to go and see it when it opens. If they catch the 14 year old market they are onto a winner! Hello there, Kate!

Daily Mail, She, Now and now Okay (not even Hello!)...it'll be the National Enquirer next, Allison! I think CF has figured in this list a couple of times before, usually earning the same amount! Take with a pinch of salt...where do they get their "facts" from? But if Robert Carlyle OBE (and he's MUCH more leftwing than CF! :-))can earn �2million for playing the baddie in the new James Bond, the rewards at the top must be disproportionately high!

A shorter haircut on him looks better since his hair is slightly thinning (Suzanne) (Bethan) Tut! Sacrilege! :-) LOL! Egads! Eeeeewwwww, a bald Colin? Perish the thought! Many thanks for the She article and pics, Karen. That is a nice one of Colin and Livia. I'm going away next week and can't resist the impulse to stir up discussion while I'm gone...do we really think Colin would play Mark Darcy? Given what he's said in the past (now dredged up again in these recent UK articles) about the rest of career being overlooked in favor of P&P2? Knowing how selective he is about his roles? I'd love to see him in this high profile part but think somehow he'll pass it up to avoid being type cast. Don't shoot! Don't shoot! :-) What do you think? Everyone enjoy the Golden Globes on Sunday! May we be treated to clip after clip of SiL (all including our DB, of course)!

I think the the repeats of P&P all over the world must help fill the pot. BTW Bethan which weekend papers should I get his weekend and Sue I absolutely agree with you that he looked very good.

Not sure which board to post this on but I have just noticed that Mark Williams , the soeap star who is in SIL, whom everybody in the UK but me knows, was also in Tumbledown. I recognised him! (See, I am doing my homework for our film discussions).

Not sure which board to post this on but I have just noticed that Mark Williams, the soap star who is in SIL, whom everybody in the UK but me knows, was also in Tumbledown. I recognised him! (See, I am doing my homework for our film discussions).

I would like to show you the cover of the FP video-tape. But I don t know how to get the picture in here. Could someone explain it to me, PLEASE ! Sabine

self confessed left winger ....earning 750,000UKP. ..that's over $1.M. I would have thought he would have earned more. Of course, he was only in one film!!BTW in this country , we call them.."Limousine Liberals". ***** Thank you Karen...lovely pic of the happy couple. and thank you also for posting the SHE article.Lotta work. We appreciate your efforts. *****Welcome Kate McQ. We love newbies...stick around and let's hear from you. I think FP is scheduled now for a March release ************* NEXT POSTING info on the next BRAVO showing of MAKING OF SIL. PL. TAKE NOTE:

******MAKING OF SIL ON BRAVO***** Public Relations just called...hey, they are scheduling this just for us....Please, everyone who didn't get it last time ...do it this time. This is the tape with Colin in the leather jacket and goatee...short tape , but he is featured a lot. TUESDAY, JANUARY 26,1999 Two showings.... 12:15 PM Eastern Time after the show:.... "Inside the Actors studio" 6:30 PM Eastern Time Before the show... "Inside the Actors Studio" BRAVO is a little loose with their times...as you know...so set your VCRs before these times

Thanks for making me feel so welcomed. I will keep my eyes out for FP in March. Meanwhile - SiL was a great film. Judi Dench was just killing me as Eliz. I. CF's Wessex (Essex?) was terrific. I particularly liked the earring. Too bad he's not getting any of the press around here that his part warrants. He's has a much more major role than Ben Affleck, yet Ben Affleck is featured in all the movie adverts. I guess that just goes to show you that the industry just tries to sell -what it perceives - t be the hot commodity for the moment. Anyway, thanks again for the welcome.

After many months of lurking around in drool, I am finally taking the plunge and admitting to my secret obsession of CF. I have enjoyed reading all your commentaries and escapades. What has finally prompted me to de-lurk at this time is my need to share with someone the link I have recently discovered between myself and CF. I am the first to admit that this is totally ridiculous and juvenile, but I think as fellow Firthoholics, you will understand. . . Have you heard of 7 degrees of separation? Well, I have discovered my own 5 degrees of separation with CF. In the early 90's I had an employee working for me (for discretionary purposes, I will not reveal her name) whose grandson is a child actor named Tommy Tulak. He was on several episodes of Cheers as one of Carla's many children. He was also in the movie, "Hook" starring Robin Williams. I recently discovered that in this movie, Gwynneth Paltrow had a small part as young Wendy. And, of course, you all know GP's connection to CF in SIL. . . I know this is totally lame, but who else could I share this with? I know some of you have seen the man in person and that far surpasses my imagined connection, but, hey, I'll take what I can get.

Hi Kate. Glad to see you here. Guess Ben Affleck appeals to that all important 17-24 age group that everyone is dying to pull into their theatres. God I hate being ignored. Thanks, Karen and Allison. Excellent looking shots. I love that b/w one even though it's an oldie. Don't think the photog caught Colin at his best in the picture with the wife but she looks fabulous. Heide, you asked about how the SIL promotion was going in the UK...whether we'd seen "everything". Did I? Brain drain again. I know I said this: Don't give up on the interviews, girls! It took a while for any to show up over here too. After all, the film hasn't opened yet. Keep your eyes peeled for us. And more pictures like the above would be most welcome. (Allison) I have just noticed that Mark Williams, the soap star who is in SIL, whom everybody in the UK but me knows, was also in Tumbledown. Great catch! Who did he play in Tumbledown? (Eileen) I'm going away next week and can't resist the impulse to stir up discussion while I'm gone...do we really think Colin would play Mark Darcy? Ah, excellent subject, Eileen, but are you going to stay around long enough to watch the sparks fly when I say this? Rather than Mark Darcy, I'd prefer Coliin to play Daniel Cleaver. Cons: he'd be a bad guy again; he wouldn't be the leading man; Pros: he'd be looking good, well dressed, smooth; lots of sexy scenes; but most important, I think it would be a great joke for him to play the anti-Darcy.

So glad you de-lurked Kelly. As Evelyn said to Kate, we love new people. I'll gladly take your five degrees connection to Colin. It's closer than I'll ever get. Hope you stay with us awhile and join in the other topics too.

Welcome Kate and Kelly. I too lurked for a long time. Everyone here is just great and it is alot of fun. I just wish I had the opportunity to meet CF Of course, I think we all have a sense of obession with him. Love those pics. He and his beautiful wife certainly do make a smart couple. SHe is so beautiful and he is SO SO HANDSOME. ANN: I am still jealous of you. You are awesome.

Living in the Outer-Pacific-Ocean, my only boast is that I write on the same board as Kelly who has somethingth-degree of separation from CF. That is as close as I get, unless you count in the beginning of FF (was it?) he mentions that he and his wife went on honeymoon to Hawaii to look at the volcano. That is THIS Island!

VALMONT on Cable in the US next month. Get those VCR ready.

(Marcia)That is as close as I get HELLO! We have someone here who's had DINNER with him! Remember Ben? :-D Knowing him counts, right? Trying to think how close I can get (besides the December premiere which is etched into my memory forever): During my brief stint as a travel agent last year, I did Jennifer Tilly's travel (she went to Spain and London a couple of times). So there you've got her, then Meg Tilly, then CF. Rita: Love those pics. He and his beautiful wife certainly do make a smart couple Smart couple...yes.... but it also leaves a slight pang of jealousy...She really is the nicest person, though. BTW, with that disc. about her possibly being pregnant, is she still in school, etc... I was wondering if she WERE expecting, whether or not it'd be a good thing for her to be flying around from place to place so often. Like, isn't there a risk factor for flying while expecting? If she was expecting, she wasn't showing a bit back when they were in L.A.. Also, I think she met CF just when she started grad studies in Rome. From what a friend of mine told me, finishing undergrad in Italy is longer than in the US. People get out of undegrad at age 26 or so.

Kate, I absolutely agree with yur comments about Ben Affleck , Colin's role was much more important and yet he hardly gets a mention and BA wasn't that good, unfortunately the same thing is happening over here in the UK, in his own country, its just too bad. We shall have to start a campaign to get CF more attention in both countries, our project for 1999. Welcome Kelly.

Ben Affleck got alot of press mainly because he was GP's boyfriend not because he is some brillant actor. Yes, he won an Oscar for writing a screenplay but I was surprised that in an interview he peppered his answers with alot of "you knows". I thought he would be more articulate. This is just a thought-but isn't it funny how BA and GP broke up right after the premiere of SIL. I wonder if Harvey had anything to do with it the timing. It is rather good publicity. :-)) Colin gave a wonderful performance and it is rather vexing that he is overlooked in favor of the good but great performance of BA. I do have to admit I'm not that fond of BA bacause his voice bothers me, so I'm somewhat prejudiced against him.

(Allison) (See, I am doing my homework for our film discussions). Excellent! Welcome, Kelly. Always great to hear from all you former lurkers. Also hope you, Kate, AnnW, Rita, Sabine, Eileen and whoever else I've inadvertently forgotten do join us for the next film discussion. (Topic 98) Sabine, I will be emailing you about your question. Ben Affleck got a lot of press not only because of his dating GP, but he did win an Oscar and has been quite popular an actor (wasn't he in Armaggeddon?). I liked him in "Chasing Amy." Anyway, they must have broken up around New Years because Laura told me that the Boston press reported BA and GP sightings all around Boston during the Christmas holidays. She spent Christmas with him and his family. Actually, I thought BA did a fine job with his part. He had lots of good lines and his character evolve . Remember, the guy who walked in exclaiming, "What is the play and what is my part?" eventually realized how great the play was and *suggested* to Will that he change the name of the play to R&J. Loved his bit as the dance master as he chanted to the beat a la the theater... Enough "in defense of Ben Affleck..."

TV Alert: The show Dateline, before the Golden Globes, will have a segment (or the whole show??) about Gwyneth Paltrow.

It occurred to me that if Colin and Livia *are* expecting, they may face the same dilemma my husband and I faced re: choosing names. I'm Italian and my husband is Irish/English. Perversely, each of us preferred the names associated with the other's ethnic background. So while he was choosing names like Angela, Anthony and Allegra, I was picking ones like Liam, Caitlin and Trevor. Add relatives chiming in with their various choices, and it was pretty hysterical -- like an episode of th t old TV show "Bridget Loves Bernie." For the record, the baby name books advise choosing a name that's either neutral or goes with the ethnicity of the last name -- i.e., avoid things like Sean Rabinovitz, Carlos Chong... or, say, Giovanni Firth. And with subsequent children, you're supposed to follow suit -- i.e., Giovanni's little brother shouldn't be named Liam.

Welcome Kelly....I'm impressed with any degree of separation. We like to hear about those. We must not forget Cheryl (of the ailing wrist) who worked as as assistant to Milos Forman in VALMONT!! *********** Heide, who is Daniel Cleaver...is he Bridget's boss?Not another baddie!! *********** Sorry girls....I thought Ben Affleck was terrific in SIL. I am not an avowed fan either...but the second time you see the film, you'll appreciate him and JF. Also BA &GP must be credited for promoting that film tirelessly before the premiere...on every talk show goin'. Please don" shoot me when I say that without them this film will have been DOA. Now, in UK, I would think they would promote their own heartthrobs . But as Allison said: "Colin is yesterday's news".He needs a publicist.

Thanks for the Bravo info, Evelyn. Despite missing several broadcasts, I happened to be in the right place at the right time last night (Fri.) at 6:30 p.m. (ET) when they ran it. I will capture it on tape next week, though. I agree that Colin got much more focus in this short blurb than in all the PR since! And good or bad (I thought he was good as well, but not half so much as our DB), Ben Affleck sells movie tickets in the US (and apparently the UK also--I'm still astonished that Colin is getting pa sed over there). (Heide) Rather than Mark Darcy, I'd prefer Coliin to play Daniel Cleaver. Yeah, I could see that. I think he'll never go for Mark. If so, he might as well have "Darcy" stamped on his forehead. (KarenR)Also hope you, Kate, AnnW, Rita, Sabine, Eileen and whoever else I've inadvertently forgotten do join us for the next film discussion. (Topic 98) I'd love to pipe up over there, but last I checked the topic was tentatively Camille and that's one I haven't seen. When you get to ATA, I'll be there. Lastly, welcome Kate and Kelly! Now I'm off for my week away.

Now, in UK, I would think they would promote their own heartthrobs. But as Allison said: "Colin is yesterday's news".He needs a publicist. I wouldn't say he's "yesterday's news", or, believe me, Now, She and the Sun wouldn't be remotedly interested in him! He doesn't court publicity, he doesn't want to be a heartthrob, he leads an exemplary private life...in other words, he is, in the nicest possible way, slightly "boring" to our sensational press. He also has fourth billing, and as Judi Dench is receiving a lot of critical acclaim, this may relegate him to fifth place! And I think the fact that SIL has opened before either MLSF or SLOW i rather unfortunate for him because it certainly creates the impression that he's settling for supporting roles. But despite my occasional outbursts, I think he's doing okay! Slowly but surely! By the way, SIL must be making an impression, as my mother has announced, quite independently (I've never mentioned it!)that she wants to see it! There were longish articles in both the Times and Telegraph today...mainly about the script and the literary allusions.

Having finally seen FP, I have serious doubts that it will do well in the US. It took several viewings for my American ear to attune itself to the mixed No. London accents. Once I had, I thought it a wonderful movie!! But most viewers aren't going to have the opportunity or the motivation to go back to see it another time...they'll regard it as incomprehensible and just too much work to get to the heart of it. **sob** (Totally whimsical thought...they would dub the film into German to show it in Germany, wouldn't they?...and into Swedish to release in Sweden? Has it never occurred to you guys across the ocean that maybe you need an "American" dubbed version for a thickly accented movie? You could still give it the flavor of the accent but with sharper diction...No GOOD English movie deserves to lose an audience in the USA because of the difficulty of understanding an accent...that can be modified.) (Listen, I KNOW I can understand Mark Strong perfectly in "Emma"...couldn't pick up 80% of what he was saying in FP...even after several viewings!)(C'mon, Mark I know you can do it!!) Is this a dumb idea or what?!?

Winter: I think that they let you fly around when you are preg. At least, that is what my friends tell me. Well, I do feel a pang of jealously but, I feel jubiliation for anyone who finds happiness as they have. You can see it in the eys. Plus, we wouldn't want him to be living in a log cabin anymore. I am still jealous that you did have that wonderful opportunity in December. I just don't think that I will ever get to meet him. I don't think he is yesterday's news. People never appreciate great talent until it is blown out of the water. Look at Bruce Springsteen. I was seeing him on the coast of Jersey when he was a house band. OOPS!!! Tells my age. I was underage in the bar though and very much a college student.

At last, only as crumb but it is better than nothing Cosmo Landesman review inThe Sunday Times Culture......."But alas, William has a wife back in Stratford and Viola is about tobe married to the dastardly Lord Wessex (COLIN FIRTH ON FINE FORM) hurrah, can't type it all very long review mostly positive.

(KJArt) Having finally seen FP, I have serious doubts that it will do well in the US. I hope you're wrong, but I have worried about this too. I love this movie and will be v. disappointed if it doesn't do some business. I know some say that a UK football film won't do well in the U.S. but I hope people realize it's more about the universal fascination men have with their sports than it is about soccer. I've been living my own little FP scenario with my husband, the die-hard Atlanta Falcons fan, and it is totally cracking me up. He hasn't seen the film and yet he keeps uttering Paul-ism without knowing it. He's suffered through almost 20 years of them doing poorly - he keeps saying things like "This is the best season they've had in 18 years." And now that they're doing well he's too stressed out to watch the games. Last Sunday during the play off, he set the VCR and decided to go to the beach to play VBall to relieve the tension. But he couldn't make himself leave and just stood in the doorway holding the remote. Finally he did leave but he couldn't stop himself from listening to the game on the radio. When he got to the beach he wouldn't get out of the car for over an hour so that he could hear the end of the game. Then he called me on the cell phone so I could watch the sudden death overtime with him. (For shame, i was watching Tumbledown instead of the game!) I don't know how he'll survive SuperBowl Sunday with heart rate intact. I need a Steve to come baby sit him :-). I hope this anecdote wasn't too dull - sorry for the long dissertation! Well Heide, Colin as Daniel Cleaver, eh? I kind of like your idea of him being the Anti-Darcy - he might think that was fun. And at least we'd get to see him being sexy. Welcome to all the newbies! So lovely to see you and hope you will continue to join us.

Welcome, newbies! Kjart, I would assume rather than dubbing a film for the American audience they would adapt the complete film new, as they did with some others, such as Breathless, Somersby, 3 Men and a Baby, Nikita, Der Himmel �ber Berlin (can't recall the English title) etc.. I guess soccer would have to be replaced by an other sport (...your choice), but then FP would make a perfect Tom Hanks/Meg Ryan vehicle, don't you think. ;-p Jana, love your report on your husbands Paulisms. Poor chap! Speaking of which.... did it ever occur to anyone here that we, the Firthaddicts, suffer of Paulism, too? It's not yet 18 years ( =8-O !!!), but the symptoms are there. :-)

KJArt, Just some thoughts on FP. I've two soccer-mad teenage sons (supporting different teams), and they both have read the book and screenplay, and watched the movie on video and really enjoyed it. They obviously can relate to Paul's feelings, and as one of their teams is facing relegation this year I can certainly testify to the tension and angst (and loss of good humour!)suffered on Saturday afternoons!! And I must admit when the team actually won a crucial match with a last minute goal, even I leaped up in the air! So, FP does strike a chord! I'm very pleased FP is opening in the US after all this time, but in some respects I think that this is enough, coupled with (hopefully) some good personal reviews for CF, and easy availability on video. Major commercial success would be the icing on the cake. As to the accents....what about "Trainspotting" (even I couldn't understand what they were saying! And did I really want to?!)But I take your point that if US audiences have to struggle with the dialogue, they'll lose in erest. But I actually didn't think the N.London accents were too strong. CF's accent wasn't too pronounced, and the girls both had quite "posh" accents! I think Daniel Cleaver would be a great in-joke, but a lousy career move......no more supporting roles, Mr Firth please! :-)

Welcome newbies, it is so nice to see our little club enlarged! Karen, thank you for posting the pictures, C&L do look good together. Heide, Colin would have to die his hair blond for the Daniel Cleaver role and I agree with Bethan, no more supporting roles, please! I had no problems understanding FP(may come from years of watching British dramas), and I have three young boys who are mad for soccer and I admit, I too enjoy the game. I do see a v. limited release for FP in the States.

I don't think he is yesterday's news Please...I would not want anything in his personal life to make him material for tabloid news. What I mean't (and I think Allison mean't) is that he needs a **role** that will catapult him into center court again. Darcy and P&P was 3years ago!

KJArt...no! no! I couldn't take Fever Pitch being dubbed even if Colin would do his own voice. Hey, if The Fully Monty made it big here (and those accents were almost incomprehensible to me), Fever Pitch has a fighting chance. Glad you saw and liked the film though. It'll get easier with each viewing. Jana, your story about your husband is hilarious. Paul didn't use a remote but that's the only difference I detect. Now don't have a fight before the Super Bowl unless you want to have a sweet reunion scene while he's celebrating the Falcons victory. no more supporting roles Colin would have to die his hair blond for the Daniel Cleaver role Don't know what the screenplay will be like but I don't think there's that much difference in the amount of time Mark and Daniel are depicted in the book except that Daniel pretty much disappears in the middle but for one drunken scene near the end. And as for hair, I don't remember Daniel being blonde but don't think the hair color is important anyway. I knew I was in the minority (of one) on this but I like the debate.

ROTFLOL over your story, Jana! I've gone through many Paul Ashworth moments with my ex-- a die hard Chicago Bulls (basketball) fan. Unlike Arse, the Bulls win EVERY year practically, but my ex has been a fan since their loser days. next to Paul (Nick Hornby), I have never known a fan this devoted to his team. My ex has EVERY SINGLE game they played on video from the past four years. His entire week revolves around the game, and whether or not they win. He replays his favorite matches on the VCR, or talks bout it, play by play. And it's like colonization, this whole phenomenon--- the signif. others get sucked in and we start remembering names of players, statistics-- all this crap that we don't even want to know anyway. My only concern is how they market this film. I played the climactic scene of FP on my VCR for my ex to see. He hates British films to no end, but he really identified with just that scene, and he admitted that he'd see it in the movie theatres if it came out.

But as Allison said: "Colin is yesterday's news". Harbinger of doom!! Actually, the reason I think he has not played much part in the promotion of SIL cf Martin Clunes, Ben Affleck etc is that Miramax want to make sure it gets seen by a larger audience than that which usually goes to see Arthouse films. They are trying to appeal to a younger, male audience. Our DB, I have to tell you, is not big in that marketplace. CF fans are the sort of peple who would go and see SIL even if he weren't in it.

Winter, you hit it spot on there....it's the marketing that makes an impact and creates an impression with the potential audience. I remember reading somewhere that The Full Monty, the little film that made it big, had a "secret" marketing budget of $20 millon and was very cleverly promoted in a so-called "word of mouth" campaign. Eeech! I think I've had it with BBC costume dramas. Just watched (in a half-hearted sort of way) "The Scarlet Pimpernel" with Richard E Grant, and would I have wanted CF to be in it? No way!!! And a hero called Percy? Daniel Cleaver v. MD....I think that in the screenplay MD will definitely be a lead role. A lot of the book is too internalised to transfer directly to a film screenplay, so I'm sure that HF will have used a back to the drawing board approach .

Renate--Tom Hanks?? Meg Ryan?? Aaghh!!! Jana, your husband shows just how universal this theme is, and I would alter FP not at all if everyone in the audience had the privilege and rewinding a bit and going through "that line" again. I hope Heide is right and the film has a fighting chance. It may get the specialized promotion that Monty got... ..It's just that I remembered missing all the good lines first time around and when I recently watched it with a friend, I was constantly having to "translate". The way the film is made, the sporting bits will be a draw to the male audience, but it's the dialog that draws the ladies...and this is clever dialog that shouldn't be missed. I flinch to think of that first time exposure to the average American movie critic...(Maybe we could have subtitles for the footie-illiterate??);-)) Jana, I vote for Mark Darcy. The whole thing is intended as a satire and self-satirization is the sharpest of all. I would like to think that DB has enough of an ironical sense of humor to be willing to do it...It would MAKE the movie! :-D So, Bethan, I'm with you--Mark Darcy it is!! :-D

Hi, all. Off for a wander, and nice to be back. Last time here I was pompously saying that no-one should wish any more roles for CF. Sorry. Anyway, I'm snowed under with f*****g work. So: (i) congratulations to Ann for getting to the premiere. Seems like the film was generally well-received, though the Sunday Times critic complained that it was formulaic, and that Fiennes was unconvincing. Livia looks a real beauty and seems sensible and nice.I hope you all approve. (If she did but know it, your collective approval would be the highest possible compliment.) (ii) KJ: while I have some sympathy for the subtitles-for-FP view, it should be pointed out that English audiences manage without them in everything American. Surely it can't be THAT much effort to understand a London accent? I used to get puzzled frowns if I said to American friends that, although it was nice to be told one had a cute accent, I didn't think I had an accent at all. They did. Bloody rude, really, so I should be grateful for puzzled frowns rather than a smack in the mouth. (iii) To return briefly to the work issue...if it's true that CF's efforts have been temporarily directed to producing a Anglo-Italian baby, rather than a film, shouldn't this be a cause for rejoicing? It means you will have a mini-Firth to follow for years to come and, furthermore, one who dresses well and is good at football. How about Firth minore, the great operatic tenor? Or, better for some of us, Firth minora, the great soprano and Roman beauty.

Hi Ben....good to have you back posting. ******* I don't know about anyone else...but I am really pissed that Harvey didn't mention Colin when he thanked all the cast of SIL tonight as he was accepting the GG Award.He even had a list in his pocket....did he not even bother to write down Colin's name?? He singled out BA, Rupert Everett and Tom Wilkinson....excuse me...Colin had 4th billing. I plan to have a letter in the mail tomorrow telling him that he neglected to mention an important member of the cast. Anyone care to join me? Harvey Weinstein Miramax 375 Greenwich st. New York, NY 10013 Thank you Gwynnie for acknowledging Colin.

(Evelyn) I don't know about anyone else...but I am really pissed that Harvey didn't mention Colin when he thanked all the cast of SIL tonight as he was accepting the GG Award.He even had a list in his pocket....did he not even bother to write down Colin's name?? I was extremely annoyed by this, and since he was reading you can't even make allowances for an off-the-cuff mistake. This is especially aggravating to me because Harvey is too smart a boy to miss an opportunity for promotion and he supposedly has a CF film opening in just a few months! I hope this isn't a bad omen for the treatment MLSF is going to get. If Miramax doesn't get behind it, it's cooked. Argh!!! (winter) My ex has EVERY SINGLE game they played on video from the past four years. His entire week revolves around the game, and whether or not they win. He replays his favorite matches on the VCR, or talks about it, play by play. I am LMAO at this! Honey, you win the prize for the most Paul-like man. At least my DH doesn't keep the tapes of the games. He just watches once and lets them go.... (Ben) Livia looks a real beauty and seems sensible and nice.I hope you all approve. (If she did but know it, your collective approval would be the highest possible compliment.) Ben, that's a lovely thing to say. From what I've seen and heard of Ms. Firth she definitely sounds worthy of our approval. Not only beautiful, but she seems nice and kind. What more could we ask for our DB?

I will certainly write Evelyn, this is getting beyond a joke and GP has certainly gone up in my estimations. Thankyou Ben for your kind words, it was a wonderful mememorable evening, I agree Jana it would have been a perfect opportunity to promote the star of a forthcomning Mirmax film.

I too was surprised that Harvey did not mention Colin. He is much too clever a man to pass up any opportunity. I guess this means Colin will not attend the Oscars. Another chance to be seen, gone.

My take on the whole promotion strategy of HW is based on the fact that he would choose to promote the stars who have the most populist image. He didn't mention Geoffrey Rush or Judi Dench, did he? He wants to reach those people who would not normally go to see a film about Shakespeare.

(Allison), He didn't mention Geoffrey Rush or Judi Dench, did he? True, but both JD and JR were nominated for GG and had their faces on TV. JD was absent but they flashed her pic. as QE. I'm sure Harvey was aware of this.

Thanks, Evelyn, for the address. There's no excuse for Harvey's omission. He did mention Judi Dench, but I'm not sure about Geoffrey Rush. At first I thought that he was going to single Colin out for special mention, but then he went on to the behind the scenes people (weren't the catering people mentioned?) and my heart fell. Bad, Harvey, bad!! (Time to go picket the offices, Nan) But good for Gwyneth. She really showed herself to be a classy lady (with the nod to BA, sitting right next to her at the table). I was actually quite shocked that she mentioned Colin right at the beginning. Hey, maybe, she fell under his spell? I really doubt Colin would be at the Oscars unless he were nominated (virtually unlikely now). Most stars don't go unless that is the case. They don't like all the hoopla. No one wants to go that trouble (clothes, jewels, transportation, post-party bashes) unless they have to. On the nomination front, I believe there is an article from a London paper that said Colin's part was unnoticeable. Does this ring a bell with anyone? (Sorry to bring out my wet blanket.) BTW, since I've now read the second draft of SiL from 1992 written entirely by Marc Norman, I don't know who he's trying to fool with that acceptance speech!

I thought it v. strange that Marc Norman gave that long acceptance speech like he had a lot to do with the script in present form. I guess even scriptwriters don't miss the opportunity for self-promotion. I would have been embarrassed. Thank you Gwenyth! I haved always liked GP as an actress and as a person but now she moved into second place on my fav list. At least Colin get his name before a worldwide audience. Just to clear this up-I thought BA did a fine job in SIL. He's just not one of my favs. I must admit, I started to like JF alot. Dreamy eyes and he can quote Shakespeare beautifully.

Interestingly, GP's acceptance speach must have made the news programmes in the UK notice that Colin is in this film. None of those I saw actually replayed the part of her speech where she mentions him but certainly the BBC and I think ITN then showed clips which all had Colin in them and concentrated on the Wessex story line. BTW, discovered this morning that Imelda Staunton is married to Jim Carter. Both have been interviewed today!

(Sue) I started to like JF alot. Dreamy eyes and he can quote Shakespeare beautifully. Honey, I could watch/listen to the rehearsal for the balcony scene over and over again.... (Allison) GP's acceptance speach must have made the news programmes in the UK notice that Colin is in this film. GP got all emotional toward the end of her speech, mentioning that her dad had a tough year and especially her grandfather. (I'm going to assume it is medical because she told him to "hang in there.") But I'm glad that her speech has gotten your press to sit up and take notice about Colin because it is obvious that GP thinks very highly of him. Last night and on the Rosie show! ITN then showed clips which all had Colin in them and concentrated on the Wessex story line. I wonder if ITN will have it on its "World News Wrapup" show that is broadcast by one of my PBS stations. Will check tonight!! Sometimes they do light fluff type pieces.

--God Bless Gwyneth Paltrow. What a classy lady! Unfortunately the news things don't replay the "thanks" speeches (does anyone wonder why?) but it went out on live and tape-delayed programs of the award show. Thank you Gwyneth for being so thoughtful!

I would love to see Colin at the Oscars this year but I don't think he will go. He didn't go when TEP was up for best picture so I'd assume he probably won't go for SIL either!

Karen, what paper was that. oh, I must not overeact and must remind myself that only yesterday in Cosmo Landesman's review of SIL in The Sunday Times, Colin was the only one apart from GP & JF who was singled out for praise "to the dastardly Lord Wessex (Colin Firth on fine form)" Good ole Cosmo and good ole Gywnnie. Allison I saw GP's acceptance speech where she mentioned Colin ,on BBC News this morning and I was thrilled as it came quite near the beginning after JF. Sue I agree with what you say about JF but he is still not Colin, there is something about Colin I know not what, that makes him so appealing and after seeing him last week I feel it even more but I can't put my finger on it.

Is that quite the right expression!?

I forgot to mention that Barry Norman loved SIL and said that he would go as far to say that we probably won't see a better British? film all year and he didn't think the supporting cast could have been bettered. Again there was quite a lot of Wessex.

Ben--a followup to your "Surely it can't be THAT much effort to understand a London accent?" ---I watch British programs and movies all the time and in fact I prefer them. The challenge of a good accent is fun if it isn't a large portion of the dialog...(In fact, I admit I NEVER could understand what the kids in AMITC were saying until I read the book)...But that's what upset me...me, who watch British all the time, me who read everything the net had to print on FP and Hornby and read that book...after all that if I was STILL missing the good lines the first time through, then what will the ave age US viewer (or critic) be experiencing? So YES it surely requires that much effort to understand a London accent abd that is why I fear for its success in this country...and I DO SO want it to be a success because its a marvelous, fun movie and a great showcase for the excellence of our DB!

(AnnW), I forgot to mention that Barry Norman loved SIL and said that he would go as far to say that we probably won't see a better British? film all year and he didn't think the supporting cast could have been bettered. Again there was quite a lot of Wessex. That is really good news for DB. I wonder why no one ever asked GP( I'm thinking Rosie), if she had seen CF in P&P? If she liked it, and if she had fallen under Darcy's spell (as so many of us have). If I ever see her, I think I shall ask.

(Ben) used to get puzzled frowns if I said to American friends that, although it was nice to be told one had a cute accent, I didn't think I had an accent at all. They did. Bravo, Ben! Good for you! I'm constantly mortified every time I hear someone 'complimenting' a person for their 'accent.' As if it were some skill like doing card tricks or being able to flip one's eyelids inside-out! FP will do mediocrely (that a word?), IMHO. Art-house films will very likely carry it, and draw in the same types of people who are regular indie filmgoers. Problem is, I haven't seen one trailer at the art-house theatres yet for this film, which worries me. Seeing the same trailer over and over again for months is annoying, but it does the trick. I wouldn't have seen 'Central Station' had it not been for weekly exposures to the trailer. Another thing, FP doesn't need subtitles ('Trainspotting' subtitles annoyed me to no end, BTW). People will follow because the essentials are there, though there are some details which I think might throw people off. Like, will people understand what N5 means (N. London area--like a zip code)? Will they understand why Paul wouldn't take his student to an Arsenal game because of the seating? What's a "row?" etc., etc.. But, if my ex was able to enjoy it, with his love for Jean-Claude Van Damme and National Lampoon movies, people will go out and see it. They just have to know it's out there.

I can't contribute much to the subject of accents since any English or American accent is likewise difficult for me. But part of the difficulties to understand FP is that there are so many in-jokes. Also the script has many (voluntary) omissions which lead you to believe that you perhaps missed something. I wish I had discovered Clare's FP Glossary earlier. I assume most of you know that page, but for those who don't: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/9482/gloss.html

Come to think of it, my mother, in endeavoring to assure my having No trace whatever of a Noo Yawk accent, instructed me to have "no accent whatever!" We were surburbanites, and I think I escaped to Hawaii without the 5-Boroughs Brogue. But, No Accent, Whatever?!" I think that is impossible.

And, Ben, if you'll drop down to 113 for a moment, I will allow you "anything" as a Keepsake on a whole new list of JE's effects in P&P2. I would love to claim you as a whatevereth-removed contact with CF!!!!

I take back anything I may have ever said (or thought) about Gwynnie. She was absolutely darling - gracious, charming and real. She not only has been working damn hard pushing this film, she also had the good sense to give credit to Colin. As for Harvey, I'm screaming at the TV along with the rest of you. I'm sure it was an oversight, otherwise it's a slap in the face. I'm not counting on SiL winning the Best Picture over Private Ryan but if they do, Harvey better make amends in his speech. He defin tely thanked Dame Judi and Geoffrey - then went on to Rupert and Ben. When he talked about Tom Wilkinson I thought for sure Colin would be next. Agh!! As much as I'd have loved to have seen him there, I'm not surprised he wouldn't be if he didn't have to be. And wouldn't you hate to see him have to run through that Joan Rivers gauntlet? Of course she wouldn't know who he was anyway. During the boring moments, and there were many, I amused myself by counting how many people there (besides the SiL bunch) have directly worked with Colin. I only managed Michele Pfeiffer and Annette Bening. Anyone notice others? Since I'm enjoying playing the devil's advocate regarding Bridget Jones...KJArt, don't you think playing Daniel would hold much more irony than playing Mark? Good point, Bethan, about the book being too internalized for it to translate well to the screen without re-working but I'm not convinced that would lead to Mark's enhancement in the film. So many of the Pride & Prejudice references were deleted from the audiocassette that the Mark Darcy/Mr. Darcy association was almost entirely lost. I wouldn't be surprised if the P&P parody would be missing from the film too. Please believe me though that I'd love to see DB play Mark. Maybe he could play both parts!!

Oh I am so mad at H. W. I cannot believe he did not mention CF. I kept waiting and waiting. I thought that was very rude and not an oversight. Thanks to GP he did get noticed. No wonder I am starting to like her more and more. I will be writing HW myself to ask him why? When SIL whens the Oscar he better remember himself.

I have already done it Rita, a letter in the post yesterday, said I hoped the oversight would be corrected in March when SIL wins the Oscar, said many mmany CF fans all over the world were very upset and disappointed at this gross oversight. (eh I bet he will be shaking in his shoes). Also pointed out how popular Colin was on the Internet and how many sites he had, said he was a very talented actor who deserved more recognition and that surely was'nt this a perfect opportunity to have promoted Colin prio to the opening of another Miramax film My Life So Far. Anyway I don't think it will do any harm for Miramax to see that Colin has loads of fans. So come on ladies get writing, it may persuade Miramax to bring forward the release date for MLSF or at the very least make sure they dont postpone it again.

Good news about the Golden Globes! CF has now been in two out of three GG winners in the last three years (and don't forget Jessica Lange got a GG nomination for ATA! So he's kissed three GG nominees!))There was a lot of Colin in SIL on the Breakfast news and in the early evening (5-6pm) news. But no mention of his name....just GP, and perhaps JD. I actually heard him speak three times. Reminded me that he has a marvellous voice and that we very rarely get to hear it. Talk about talents being undermarkete !!!! Time for a return to the theatre? Harvey? Oh dear. :-( Shades of BAFTA 1996 again...couldn't believe it when everyone/thing connected with Jane Austen films won...except CF!)It sounds like a deliberate omission. I wondered if HW just focussed on "names" for the glitzy audience, GP, JF, Geoffrey, Judi, his "friends" (and A-list Hollywood players) Ben and Rupert. Tom? Well, perhaps he was playing the Harvey W. role in SIL! But, it sure don't look good when even your own producer misses you out! Bad manners actually! Especially as CF has att nded all the premieres and did the publicity bash. Allison, I saw Jim Carter and Imelda Staunton on TV. Have seen GP, JF, GR and JD in interviews....and you've also seen Martin Clunes, Tom Wilkinson and thingybob from the Fast Show (lucky you!) What I want to know, did no-one talk to Colin?! This Invisible Man phenomenon is getting beyond a joke......especially when the poor bloke (and lovely wife) is actually turning up to everything! Mark Darcy/Daniel Cleaver...well, no contest for me! One of the reasons I remain so enthusiastic about this damn film is that HF's new book will boost it, and it is also absolutely guaranteed to reach our screens and get an international release, which is more than can be said for virtually any other British film at the moment. Look forward to some news here!

Forgot to add, I'm sure not many people really, really listened to Harvey, but everyone would have listened to Gwynnie (who does, I agree, seem to be a lovely person)! Also, having not seen any clips of SIL, I almost had difficulty in recognising Colin...and this is a compliment to him. He can make himself look SO grim (and older). Not a buffoon though, not with that voice. But I wonder if his chameleon characteristics can sometimes count against him. I read somewhere that someone watched the whole of SIL and then asked "Who did Colin Firth play?" "Stars" tend to always look more or less the same! But (I'll answer this myself), he's an actor!

Saw the ITN piece last night on all the Brits winning in the Golden Globes and yes their clip had three shots of Colin in it, but of course, he wasn't mentioned by name. (If any of you--Allison, Ann, Bethan--ever see anything on Colin on ITN, be sure to post. I don't watch it on a regular basis, although I do like D. Daliwhal! sp??) Re: Accents Don't feel singled out, Ben, some US accents get the same treatment in other parts of the country. For example, a southern accent might be called cute but a northerner (Yank). It happens. When we discussed FP, many people asked "what" so and so said. Yes, some lines were missed, but overall I didn't find it difficult to understand. We Americans don't know all the idiom and slang (remember: get stuck in, you showers!!), but incomprehensible, NO WAY!! The kids in A Month in the Country were heavy Yorkshire and you need the screenplay to decipher what they are saying. Trainspotting was pretty difficult and I found the use of subtitles (only during the club scene) amusing. I think it was a combination of the language and the noise going on that made it necessary. Mark Darcy vs. Daniel Cleaver No contest!! Has to be Mark Darcy. Definitely want to see him cutting in on prepubscent cousin dancing with Bridget at the ruby anniversary party. Also hope that Helen remembers my favorite image from her columns: Mark wearing only a towel striding about the room in barrister mode. She did get a kick out of the that.

I'm "working" at home today, which means I'm not (working). Keep on taking tea breaks/lunch breaks/TV breaks/you name it breaks! Anyway, just watched CNN Showbiz, and another clip of SIL and Colin. I'm getting quite blase about this..."oooh there he is again!". The CNN showbiz pundit was talking Oscars and he said he had been getting the buzz from the post GG parties, and the general opinion is that it's a two horse race btween Private Ryan and SIL, but SIL is gaining support. It's all good publicity and means that SIL will get a lot of mentions throughout Feb and March. I mean, I was absolutely sick of hearing about The Full Mont !! About Harvey, on relection, I feel it was probably just an oversight. Nothing I've read about CF and his working relations (cast members, directors, producers) has ever indicated that he's not highly professional and very easy to get on with . Why should Harvey have a down on him? But it's good to write on Colin's behalf, Ann, and good to let him know that we 're waiting, not so patiently, for MLSF! Karen, Yes! Lots of good scenes, just waiting to come alive on the Big Screen. And some new ones too...mmmm, I'm definitely in favour of the towel!

I am contemplating writing to the BBC to ask them why they did not interview CF during the course of the SIL premier, GG hype etc. After all he was voted most popular actor in 60 years of the BBC. What do you think?

Good idea Allison, if Colin won't promote himself then we will have to, that was one reason why I took the opportunity to write to HW, as I agree with Bethan it must have been an oversight, what reason would he have to ignore Colin. Was annoyed today though, was reading the new TV Times and the review for SIL again mentioned Uncle Tom Cobley and all but not Colin, however, The Radio Times made up for it, he was mentioned three times in different contexts. BTW does anyone else get The RT, only this week there is a special Milleninium Magazine and it Wallchart showing past BBC drama's & documentaries for the last millennium and it doesn't mention P&P or Middlemarch (that was BBC wasn't it), perhaps I have missed the point but I would have thought P&P would have definitely been there. I can just about accept that Colin might be ignored but not P&P for goodness sake.

Taking another well undeserved break.... Allison, I actually think it's a good idea. I've often thought the BBC could have offered CF and JE a special "one-off" Performance together, perhaps a Chekhov play or something similar. After all the hype about P&P, the BBC never seem to have considered any sort of "follow-up" for CF or JE. I read recently that the BBC are commissioning various special "vehicles" for their star talent. No mention of CF or JE though. Warming to the theme of MD, wet, contoured towels and all, perhaps we could wile away the long boring evenings in some sort of Fantasy Island, invent-a-new -scene scenario. Dips in the River Serpentine, dashes accoss muddy fields, "Miss Jones!" "Mr Darcy!" You get the idea! :-) A propos of BJD. I'm sure that Working Title must know what they are doing by now. There's been an onteresting saga in the papers about Rowan Atkinson and some mini-film for the Millenium. Angry denials from his company...no, he's not doing it, no, he's not, no details avaiiable etc. for a few months, and then, guess what folks, he's doing it! It just seems to be a matter of appropriate timing. Right, with great lack of determination, back to my oh so boring report... :-(

(Bethan) back to my oh so boring report... Oh, how I empathise! Actually I am using all my spare grey cells trying to compose an E-mail to the BBC which will capture their imagination and make them take notice. On the bright side, I am going to see SIL on Friday when it opens. I have already booked the tickets, the first time I have ever booked cinema tickets more than a day in advance. And I am excited.

Why should Harvey have a down on him? That is a v. good question. What if Colin and Harvey are having discussions about MLSF? Release date, promo, premiere, or what if Colin wants to star in a new Miramax project and Harvey wants to cast someone else? My message to Colin is: DO THEATRE! Let us see you every night, show them.

I've often thought the BBC could have offered CF and JE a special "one-off" Performance together I fear our DB is now too expensive for the dear old beeb. The licence fee cannot compete with HW!

Go to it, ladies. Blow some fire up the networks' arses. They might tell you when they're planning on showing an interview with him. After all, Ann did see a camera in his face. News and promos should be hot and heavy the next few weeks.

If you wish to E-mail the BBC, their contact page is at bbc.talks.co.uk/talks/

Ooops, try again!Go to bbc.co.uk/talks/

I give up! Go to www.bbc.co.uk and follow your nose.

Allison, I think you need to type the http://, too. Will it work? http://www.bbc.co.uk/talks/

It worked only half... http://www.bbc.co.uk/home/today/

And while I was there I did a search for guess whom? Here's an (oldish) interview with Donald Pleasance with a Colin mention (we need any crumb!) http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/bbcap/archive/pleasence/interview2.shtml

I am not that mad at HW. I just think that it is an oversight on his part and he must be careful. Our DB has LOTS of fans out there and we do go to the movies and pay those high ticket prices. We rent those movies and purchase them. All money in his pocket. I just want him to take notice and that is why I wrote him. On a lighter note, GP What a Girl!!!!

Hmm! Harvey's words do have an impact! From yesterday's Telegraph (account of GG awards)..."SIL, with a (British) cast that includes Dame Judi Dench, Rupert Everett and Tom Wilkinson." There's an article about the awards and a huge credited photo of GP and JF. Guess who's missing, yet again! The awards ceremony apparently had a global audienceof 250 million. Thank goodness for Gwynnie! The article on the awards suggests that movies which get the most promotion get the most awards and says that SIL has been heavily promoted by Miramax at the expense of some of its other movies (MLSF?) It also says that overall most independents are not doing well at the box office, despite critical acclaim, and that American movies will always beat "British" movies in terms of quality but awards go to well mounted relics like TEP! (typically supportive British film critic...no wonder the British film ind stry is dying!! Without Harvey, bless his cotton socks, it probably would be dead!) Jeez...I am NOT going to read any papers for at least a fortnight!!!

Just read a review form an Irish critic, loved the movie and had kind words for the supporting actors including our DB, "and Firth as the villian is splendid." Perhaps you should only read Irish papers Bethan.

From this at www.upcomingmovies.com about "My Life So Far" Greg's Thoughts: This movie, once named The World of Moss, was originally slated to be released a year before, in July of 1998; and all along, I've kept my eye on it. Why? Well, as people are welcoming back Terrence Malick after his 20 years away from the camera for his work on The Thin Red Line, I was also happy to hear that High Hudson is also returning. Though this is only his fifth film, his first two were very memorable (Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan is a favorite of mine), even earning him an Academy Award. I deed, the pace and manner of Chariots of Fire may be indicative of what this film might be like, as a description of a scene of daily swims in a Scottish loch reminded me of the famous runs along the beach in that film. In both scenes, there is a certain British stoicism that is unspoken, but remains in the viewers' memory, like some kind of compass of behavior for quiet moments. There aren't many British period-piece dramas that register on the cultural landscape of late. There've been a few in recent years (Firelight and The Governess are the most recent), but not the volume that there once was, in the heyday of the Merchant/Ivory films. Happily then, comes this film next Summer, perhaps as a well-placed piece of counterprogramming to compete with the crowds of the various blockbusters of the season. Here's hoping Hugh Hudson's return is a triumphant one. (As of 12/16/98)

Ladies, news of Colin's next project, according to Lisbeth (Lisbeth's Timeline) he is to play a madman, can't remember all the details ony that it is a TV film, great to hear he is working again but a madman!!

Go here to read a bit more about his project: Donovan Quick Thanks to Karen who got us e-mail on Yahoo or I never would have seen it.

Oops! I was so excited I didn't check out Lisbeth's timeline first. I see I put up the same link there that she did. Looks like a UK project so please look for more on this for us. I'm curious if this is BBC. That blurb on MLSF makes me feel this film might have a chance. I was beginning to worry that only Colin's fans even knew of its existence and now here's someone who is actually looking forward to it.

Thank you for the info. You guys are great. Hi ANN

Heide, yes it is for the BBC, have just read about it on ITV's Teletext pages.

UK fans, sorry it is no longer on Teletext but is still on Ceefax .

Jeez...I am NOT going to read any papers for at least a fortnight!!! Just break your abstinence, Bethan, for the Times review. "Colin Firth is the only real villain. Wonderfully grumpy, he is naked self interest buttoned into the dastardly Lord Wessex... A madman? Good. Sounds a good award catching role!

Let's hope he plays a heroic madman! Any news on when it starts filmimg, the title and co-stars would be appreciated. I wonder if it's the lead role. What good news to wake up to, thank you AnnW.

Heide, I just read the Don Quick blurb, it looks like he will be the star if he has the Don Quixote part! I hope they do it justice, by the name, it sounds like it might be a comedy.

CF on stage? Unsubstantiated report in the London Theatre Guide bulletin board states that Colin will join Eliz. McGovern for a two week run at the Donmar Warehouse, 1-13 March, in "3 Days of Rain". Gnashing my teeth, as I'll be in London in February and April, but not in March!

(Moon) Let's hope he plays a heroic madman! Well, if he is a modern-day Don Quixote then there's no way he's in a baddie role again! Wonder who will be his Sancho Panza and Dulcinea? FYI, Joe Fiennes is scheduled to be on Jay Leno on Monday next and Gwynneth Paltrow on Conan O'Brien next Thursday. (When's the deadline for AA nominations?) (Chris) that Colin will join Eliz. McGovern for a two week run at the Donmar Warehouse, 1-13 March, in "3 Days of Rain". Wow!! Wouldn't that be something to see. Is this a new production or a change in cast for a longer-running play? I'll bet fares to London are pretty cheap that time of year.... ;-)

Colin doing Theatre? He heard me!!! Yes! You lucky UK ladies, go to it. We will want a full report. In the book Dulcinea is not such a big part as they made her in Man of La Mancha, but indeed, I do wonder who will be Sancho Panza.

--Well, I hope all you gloomy gussies are satisfied!!..1) He's working, and 2) he's gotten that theatre bit he said he wanted so much...now, all together now, are we happy for our Dear Boy?? (Oh, ye of little faith!)

I see another trip up to the big City coming up, thankyou Chris for alerting us. I will telephone the Donmar Warehouse tomorrow and find out a few details and book of couple of tickets, hopefully in the front row again. Also at Murph's Corner she reports that Colin is featured in February 8th People magazine, is that only available in the US?

I feel so elated, so much good Colin news, a film, a play, news of a story with news photos, and on top of that I have read two reviews today, both of which mention Colin specifically and the one at the PA News centre is particularly generous "an exceptional cast are all magnificent with Rush & Firth strong as the primary support, and notable faces right down to the cameos". Colin news is a bit like the buses in my area, nothing for ages and then two buses come along together.

Wow! It never rains but it pours! I'd almost gotten used to being miserable, and now I don't know where to start enthusing! Firstly, the review in the Times. Yes, Allison, it was well worth reading! Only GP and CF were singled out for positive mentions (JF's review was so-so). We get the Times delivered and I actually stuck to my resolve and didn't even glance at it this morning. But when I read your comment, I sneaked a look, and, hey! it was good! Donovan Quick (Don Quix)...again very good news. I like the sound of this and one advantage of TV is that we get to see it pretty soon (and can record it!) If it's a BBC film there's also always a chance of a cinema/video release....The Advocate was a BBC TV film, as was Jude with Kate Winslet. Checking my reference books..to remind myself about Don Quixote...."Don Q becomes slightly crazy after reading too many knightly romances. His crazy notions lead him into every kind of absurdity as he goes about trying to right wrongs that never existed or making real wrongs worse by his unwise interference. Quixotic describes a person who goes so far out of his way to do a foolishly kind deed that he hurts himself." Not a hero exactly, Moon, but sounds like an interesting character study. The director got a BAFTA nomination recently for "THe Lakes" a drama series set in the Lake District. Bus privatisation was a late 1980's thing in the UK, with considerable job losses, and also reductions in services in rural areas (like the Lake District)which often left older and less affluent people cut off and isolated. The film sounds like a parable..anti-big business, greed etc. And finally, theatre, WOW! WOW! Donmar Warehouse specialises in short runs. It was where Nicole Kidman recently appeared (I think?) Sam Mendez often directs. Fingers crossed for this one. What's "Three days of rain"...contemporary or what? Elizabeth McGovern is a good actress (American settled in the UK?) An exciting day!

Bethan, is it the same Elizabeth McGovern who was in the recent The Scarlet Pimpernel with Richard E Grant, if so I thought she was very pretty , they will make a handsome couple!

When is the Oscar ceremony? If he's appearing in the theatre at the beginning of March and SIL is nominated (which it will be), it's a very newsworthy combination. Apparently, he's also said that he's given up smoking ! (Well done, Livia!) So much good news!! :-)

At last the long awaited Ann's private photos from the London premiere. Thanks, Ann! Also official photos from The Evening Telegraph and The Sun. (All scanned for the Archives by one of the Three Deers) http://firth.com/prempic/annprem.htm

Livia is so gorgeous, and if she has gotten DB to give up the evil weed, how can one begrudge her her handsome husband. Thanks AnnW for the photos. BTW, I was checking on the state of the world just now on CNN Headline News, and they had a several-minutes story on the popularity of Shakespeare in the Movies. They had good coverage of SIL including several clips...alas, none with our man. Mostly GP. But, that is ok. She has been very generous in sharing the limelight.

Thanks for the lovely pictures at the London premiere. Wow! It seems as though he will be busy for quite a while. I just began reading Fever Pitch in anticipation of the movie opening in the US. Anybody else read it? I'm not getting all of the references, but I'm thinking that they are not necessary to understand one man's obsession with soccer (ok, football). Any helpful hints to assist my understanding of football? Thankfully I had heard of Arnsenal and Manchester United before I began the book and I remember, vaguely, the hoopla that surrounded soccer, from when I lived in England for a while.

AnnW, thanks for the picture and you Renate did a wonderful job!

Today :- 1) I have seen Ann's marvellous premiere photographs. 2) Am going to see Shakespeare in Love 3) Have booked seats for 3 Days of Rain. All I need now is a copy of People magazine and my life will be full:-)

It's almost worth enduring the famine to enjoy the feast! :-) Hope I don't sound too serious if I say how much I approve of his choice of new projects. Three Days of Rain sounds like a terrific play, with CF in the lead role, and it seems as though he'll be on the stage all the time. And I also think that Donovan Quick could be very thought-provoking drama. (And, hey! lead role AGAIN!). Reminds me a bit of one of my favourite old movies,"The Man in the White Suit" with Alec Guinness, which was about loss of integrity in business. Does anyone know whether it's made by the BBC or Channel Four? Channel Four have now linked up with Miramax, and of course have their own Movie Channel, Film Four, so a Channel Four "TV" film could reach a cinema audience. Great! Great! And (IMHO) much, much better than playing the baddie in a James Bond or earning millions and millions in StarWars. I hope to see SIL this weekewnd, as my son, mother and husband have all quite independently (and without prompting!) expressed interest in seeing it! So I needn't come out of the closet and declare a vested interest in CF...yet! Hope you enjoy SIL tonight, Allison!

Thanks, Bethan! I haven't told my husband the cast of 3 Days of Rain yet. I just said I was taking him to a new production at the Dolmar and he was content. He will probably (I hope) laugh when he does discover. I just pray the theatre isn't full of ladies of a certain age dribbling into their handkerchieves. Not that I wouldn't love to see you all there! ;-)

Hope I don't sound too serious if I say how much I approve of his choice of new projects. I agree. So know we know why he was smiling. And he has given up smoking!

Renate, I never dreamt you would be able to make the photo's as clear as they are, you have worked wonders, thankyou very much to everyone who was involved in putting them up. According to Telextext Bethan Donovan Quick is a BBC film.

Thanks Ann! BBC, Channel Four, equally good! Just had another thought. If he's opening in the Donmar at the beginning of March (must be rehearsing now), we should expect at least one "serious" interview with him in the press, maybe third week of Feb (Oscar nomination time?), when he would probably talk about his work. Juliet Binoche, Nicole Kidman, Kevin Spacey, Ewan McGregor all got good coverage..why not CF!!! So, I'll start reading the papers again! Another thought. I wonder if there are any plans for this production to "transfer". Juliet Binoche and Ewan McGregor both transferred to the West End, and of couse Nicole Kidman, Liam Neeson and Ralph Fiennes all transferred to New York Broadway. It's a short run...16 performances? So nice to have something REAL to conjecture about! Great!!! :-)

Great news about Colin's new roles. The whole cast for SIL is up for the Screen Actors Guild Awards for Best Ensemble cast. Their competition is Life is Beautiful,Saving Private Ryan,and Waking Ned Devine. This might be the closest Colin comes for an American award. Broadcast March 7 on TNT. I'm hoping he will be there, but I don't think he was when TEP was nominated for the same award so I won't hold my breath. SIL was nominated by the SAG in every film category. Actor JF Actress GP Supporting Actress JD Supporting Actor GR

Fabulous pictures, AnnW!! Could almost imagine myself there sitting in the front row. He looks so good standing up on that stage. (Wonder what GP and JF are looking up at on the ceiling??) Am running out to buy a copy of People magazine so I can see the lovely pictures of him in Italy. Anxious to hear how all of you ladies like SiL, since it opens today and am terribly jealous that you will get to see Colin on stage. Wonder if it will come to NY like the Nicole Kidman thing?

Well Ciaran Hinds is in New York in Closer (thought Colin would be good in that play) so you never know. Karen, don't you think he looks smarter than any of the other male cast members. I think I will have to ask Evelyn to get me a copy of People magazine, I don't think we can get it in the UK. Allison did you have any trouble getting you first choice of tickets for 3 Days of Rain?

--I wonder how DB feels about always being referred to as "heart-throb actor" (RE; the Yahoo UK announcement.) I can guess...

Such exciting news about CF's upcoming projects. I'm rushing out to get at least half a dozen of that People's Magazine... For those of us in the US, who can we call to order tickets for 3 days of Rain? I've surfed the web, and no success. I'm desperate! Please help!

Hi Emma, The Box Office telephone number for the Donmar Warehouse Theatre is 0171 369 1732, I'm afraid I don't know the code for calling England from America, there is also a fax number which you can find at Darcy Diliriums, hope this is of some help.

Just thought I would mention that the tickets are �15. or �8. not many at �8. , very cheap to see our DB and that the performances start at 8pm Mon-Sat mats 4pm and Mar 2nd. 7pm

I am so jealous. There's nothing I'd rather do than see Colin on the stage (well actually, I would love to be at the same dinner party). So I repeat, I am so jealous! The only thing that cheered me up today was knowing that I will spend part of the Easter week in the Turks & Caicos Islands. Hey, wait a minute, Italians love that place, maybe Livia can talk DB into a well deserved vacation (one can dream, I'll start sending my moonbeams that way).

For those wishing to look at Yahoo UK/s review of our "heartthrob" : http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/guide/shakespeare_in_love.html

actually it is at http://film.reviews.co.uk/archive/992801shakespearlove.htm the above one is the US review.

KJArt, where did you find your review. Both of the URL's I posted deal with SIL but hardly mention CF!!!

Marcia, there is a very good review for Colin and the supporting cast at (sorry don't know how to do the link,) at www.popcorn.co.uk/ and then scroll down to the review for SIL. Hope you find it, it is excellent.

Renate, are the photos to be found at colinfirth.com only when I go there I cannot find a link to the photos, am I doing something wrong. I have your link but I just wondered which site they were on.

Ann, they are not yet linked to any other page. Reason is, that I had just time to put them up last night before I fell asleep. I think they should be linked to and from and become part of Murph's Corner, where all the other premiere pics are. Murph, are you listening? Do you want to make them part of the Hugest Corner Ever?

Come to think of it: "Three Days of Rain" is a very promising title - wonder if he'll wear a wet shirt? ;-p.

Ann, thank you so much for Donmar's phone number. You're a dear. Does anyone have any idea about the plot? Not that it matters. If Colin thinks the play is good enough for him...ooh the possibility of another wet shirt scene...I'm booking my tickets NOW :-)

Ann: The pictures are wonderful. He is too cute and the wife is beautiful. HOoray for our DB giving up those cigs.

Emma, if you want to know more about "Three days of rain", there's a very good review of a recent production in NY which gives you an idea of the plot/characters. There are jusr three characters in the play. CF takes the lead and would, I think, be on stage all the time. The play goes back in time, so all the actors play a double role. CF plays Walker, a drifter, who then "becomes" his father, Ned, a famous architect, as the drama moves back over 30 years. The play is described as "a fine, fine play", "beautifully written", "intensely moving" "funny" etc. URL for the review is http://www.botz.com/nytheatre/3days.htm Giving up ciggies...who said a man can't change?

(AnnW)Allison did you have any trouble getting you first choice of tickets for 3 Days of Rain? No. The play has not yet been advertised. I went into the Dolmar to get my tickets and there is no mention of the cast of the play on any of the handouts, so I do not imagine it is generally known that Colin is appearing.

I've emailed the BBC "Feeddback" to ask them if they could consider adapting the upcoming production of "Three Days of Rain" with Colin Firth, for television. They've done this with a few productions in the past! Keep the same cast of course! Email is info@bbc.co.uk. The more the merrier!

re the review at popcorn.co.uk, I feel I just have to share this wonderful review as it mirrors exactly my view of Colin's performance and it is the first one that I have seen that does - "Fiennes is a perfact randy genius, matched for scene by GP in looks, power and chemistry. Firth makes a superb baddie, saying more with a gesture than many could manage with a lecture. BA has fun sending himself up, and JD's Elizabeth is shrewd and sexless. But TW is worthy of special mention, his Fennyman is a thumbreaker who, through the beauty of the playwrights work, sees that the arts are a noble venture. The rest of Hollywood, please take heed." There is als a good review for CF at the PA Newscentre, Entertainment, (don't know the address) says Colin and GR give strong performances. Thankyou Allison, I shall give the Donmar a ring today, lets hope he gets full houses every night and that it is a sell-out.

Have just telephoned the Donmar and have got my tickets, I am so excited. The third member of the cast is David Morrisey, who I believe is in Hilary & Jackie and was so good in Our Mutual Friend, an excellent cast. Apparently tickets are going quite well, which is great considering it hasn't been advertised yet.

David Morrisey was fantastic in "Our Mutual Friend"...it's a great cast!

(bethan) The play goes back in time, so all the actors play a double role. CF plays Walker, a drifter, who then "becomes" his father, Ned, a famous architect, as the drama moves back over 30 years. The play is described as "a fine, fine play", "beautifully written", "intensely moving" "funny" CF on stage most of the time, playing a double role...tis too much! Thank you bethan for the play review link. If this is an American play, and takes place in New York, will we hear CF with an American accent? By the way, for those of us in the U.S. call Donmar directly at 011 44 171 369 1732, it may take a few moments to connect. And don't forget they are 5 hours ahead of us. Get that credit card ready :-)

Saw SIL for the third time last night, this time with my husband (he has no clue as to the depth of my obsession) and teenage son. They both liked it a lot. My husband thought Lord Wessex looked familiar, but couldn't quite place him, later he said Colin was rather funny, with a very expressive face. YES! And the audience applauded at the end.

(Emma) If this is an American play, and takes place in New York, will we hear CF with an American accent? Have been thinking the same....oh dear! So, where are the reports from England on seeing SiL yesterday? Audience reaction?

(Emma) If this is an American play, and takes place in New York, will we hear CF with an American accent? (Karen), Have been thinking the same....oh dear! I second that. It would ruin the performance for me. I guess we'll have to wait to find out.

Thank you for telling me of the Popcorn review of SIL. Loved the comments about Wessex/Firth. For those of you needing a hot link: www.popcorn.co.uk scroll down to SIL and click on it.

One more time: http://www.popcorn.co.uk/

--MarciaH: The "Heart-throb actor" citation was from the Yahoo UK News announcement that was linked (I think) out of here when it first appeared. I don't know if it's still there, but the URL on my print-out reads: http://www.yahoo.co.uk/headlines/19990127/entertainment/917473320-2-1.html I'll check out to see if it works and get back to you.

--It works!...and it's still there (so far...).

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! It's good to be with you again with so much hot happpening info. I have booked my DONMAR tickets thanks to your tip. Tell me I am not mad to be going twice!!! The photos are just GREAT Ann, I thought you said your hands were shaking!!! I would like to see some when they are not!!! I saw SIL yesterday, only 15 in the audience, it was almost like a private showing and lived up to and beyond expectations.

BTW on Brit TV tonight there was an episode of "Inspector Morse". It was directed by John Madden! I thought there were some hallmark shots after seeing SIL yesterday. My partner , not sharing my obsession, thinks I am being fanciful! Also in one of our papers tomorrow (Indie on Sunday) there promises to be an article entitled something like: "Is our critic the only man in Britain who doesn't like SIL?" I'll keep you posted. It would be ironic if our DB was actually mentioned in this one!!

Bethan, thanks for the link to the synopsis of the play. Can you imagine sitting in the audience and most likely the first person you'll see on stage will be Colin? What a wonderful test for self control, ladies. I don't know if I could pass. ;-) (Allison) I just pray the theatre isn't full of ladies of a certain age dribbling into their handkerchieves. Not that I wouldn't love to see you all there! ;-) And I'd love to be there. I'll let you know after I make sure I have enough handkerchiefs. I hope everyone who goes can retain enough sanity to give a clear report to those who will be left behind. Talk about sopping hankies. The premiere shots are wonderful, Ann. You did a terrific job. I can't get over how stylish and fit he looks, especially compared to the others. Looks like he really made an extra effort. Thanks to the 3 Deers for putting them up. May we have a shot scanned in here as well? (Thanks too for putting in that Fever Pitch shot - one of my alltime favorites.) People Magazine! Talk about sensory overload. Three pages, ladies! Seven pictures! What is going on? What's with all this activity? Why is he being focused? What gods are smiling on us? Does anyone want the text put up here? Or should we wait until more get a chance to read the article for themselves. Karen, can we scan some of those photos in here? Yes, yes, I second Karen. Your Shakespeare in Love opinions, please. I'd love to know your thoughts on his acting, appearance, did it live up to its reputation, the ending, etc., etc. If you want to talk about spoilers, you can put it at 115. Thanks to Sue for the heads up on the SAG awards March 7. Surely SiL's cast has a real good shot at winning. I guess we can rule out Colin appearing though. Guess I'll just wait here now for the next bombshell to drop. Happy days! Firth makes a superb baddie, saying more with a gesture than many could manage with a lecture.

Meant to italicize the above quote from the popcorn review but forgot. Anyway, anyone who counts themselves as a Firth admirer is very familiar with those subtle gestures and changes of expression.

BTW if anyone is thinking of coming over to see CF on stage then the number for the DONMAR that AnnW gave out is ALSO a 24hour number that connects to TICKET MASTER so that could be more convienient for you if you are on Eastern time or in fact any time zone that is not GMT. Ironically when I phoned a voice said "I'm Colin how can I help?" IF ONLY!! Well I'm off for some sweet dreams of Wessex on horse back. I only mention this because I know some of you out there like to be reminded of his thighs at every possible occasion, however tenuous the link!!

Ironically when I phoned a voice said "I'm Colin how can I help?" LOL! Well,my son has seen SIL and I haven't (yet!). He went into town with his friends and came back and said they had all been to see Shakespeare in Love. He thought it was"great" and "much better than Men in Black". If they've cracked the 14 year-old market, they've got a winner! I was supposed to see it this evening with my husband, but he has a report to finish for Monday, and was "too busy" to go. ("We don't have to go this weekend do we, the film isn't going to disappear!") Huh! We are now going next Friday, and I am not in a good mood! :-( Karen and Moon....his accent in Three Days of Rain. I thought that too!! Perhaps as he's a returning wanderer in Act 1, he can retain his own accent, and maybe just have a v.slightly American accent in Act 2. His character in the second act has a stutter as well! What is the nearest American accent to a cultured British accent...isn't there a posh Boston accent? I have heard some very "neutral" American accents. Elizabeth McGovern, his co-star, is American, but usually plays with a Brit accent and David Morrissey normally has (I think) a northern accent. Heide, I've seen the pics fron People magazine, and some of the text, but some more extracts would be much appreciated. Is that his in-laws' villa in Umbria? I remember reading that the reception was held in the family's villa. And the dogs (great pic, lovely dogs)..are they his pets? It was nice to read that his parents had known each other since they were children in India. Childhood sweethearts. Very romantic! In the paper, the Donmar was advertising a Sondheim musical, which closes in 3 weeks. That gives them one week to set the stage for "Three days", which must be the next production. Really very exciting! SIL and the Indie on Sunday. The Independent can be quite snooty. It always seems to like things I dislike, and vice-versa!

(Bethan)Giving up ciggies...who said a man can't change? Just speculating... but if a baby were on the way, giving up ciggies would be a very logical habit to break. ....now running out to the newstands to buy People. I can't find the story on People Online. agh!

KJArt, thank you. There his glorious name is with all the heart-throbbing making it hard for me to read. Much appreciated. I would be in high dudgeon if I had to wait the better (?)part of a week after all this time to see SIL. My sympathies for the waitor, and fie on the waitee. I recall the first (and only) time I saw Olivier live on the stage. I about lept out of my skin!!!

He didn't give up ciggies when his son was born? Perhaps the doctor said, listen it's your lungs, they are black with that disgusting tar! This speculating is just a bit.... too much.

Hi everybody...great to read all the News....Wow...gone a few days and all hell breaks loose:-) Ann, the pics are wonderful. Colin looks so handsome all dressed up....new shoes too...soles are sparkling clean. Eager to read reviews of SIL from UK friends.On 115?

Evelyn, I must second your comments. Good God, I just left town a few days ago and now return to find a new movie role, a play in London and a huge spread in People magazine. I am quite overwhelmed!! I'm having palpitations just thinking about it - oh my poor nerves :-)

Hello, everybody, I�m back from a trip to the Malaysian jungles and what do I find here: in two weeks, the world has changed! No more anxiety over CF planning to retire (!) but two new projects to look forward to. I�m so happy and relieved, also because of the change of mood in this board. Took me hours to read everything. Looking back at the discussion here and all the hopes and fears about his career, it seems to me that the logic of his choices remains wonderfully unexpected. The Don Quixote role sounds like a new approach again (in fact I find it very difficult to imagine a modern version of DQ! The book and the character are so absurd). I really admire his determination to do new sort of things or nothing at all....he�s going to surprise us many times in the future. Dear Ann, thanks very much for your premiere report & pics! I know you probably have answered this a hundred times but still I�m dying to know: how exactly did you feel like when you saw him Live? Did it change your feelings about him somehow?

Hello Elena, welcome back. Yes it was wonderful to see him in the flesh and I thought he looked so well and lean and fit and much better than on the video which will be on its way to you shortly, but I am becoming blase because I am going to see him again in the flesh in March, can't wait to hear that voice on stage, just hope he hasn't got an American accent, no offence to American accents, just love his own voice. I understand that the tickets are going very well so anyone who is undecided whether to o or not don't delay. Good review for SIL in The Sunday Telegraph not so good for the two main actors JF & GP but excellent for the supporting actors (incl CF) and the script. Karen & Heide I am going again on Tuesday, will tell you all about it. re 3DOR I was thinking would it not be possible to base the play in London, does it have to be in NY?

Elena, sorry forgot to mention that it improved my opinion of him, if that is possible.

Oh my, I�d love to see him on theater stage, only the thought of it makes my knees weak and my heart make a somersault. Ann, what a lucky girl you are to possess the tickets and to know that you�ll see him again so soon! I�m trying to figure out how I could possibly come and see the play but there are so many damned practical obstacles. Maybe I could overcome them somehow. After all, this could be a unique opportunity, heaven knows what he�ll be next up to and where. Btw...the weak-at-knees thing is what I meant with my question earlier. You must be a very balanced person emotionally to just calmly observe his good looks and happy conduct without any symptoms of hysteria (!!!!) caused by sitting only a few meters away from your idol.

Ann W I am reminded of P&P2 in your comment about about seeing CF in the flesh and how your opinion of him has improved. Didn't Lizzie tell Wickham something like "my knowing him better has improved my opinion of him." I am not sure how I will be able to sit in the front row of the Donmar and remain calm. Perhaps Ann and Dame Winter could run some online workshops using their own experiences of our DB!!! "Up close and personal, a survival kit for dithering droolies------"etc etc

Lizza, you have a font row seat as well, I can see the the whole A row will be full of droolers, what a lovely thought. My first instimct I must confess was to run up to him and tell him how wonderful he is, then my sensible mother of two side of me , persuaded me to act with a little decorum, but it was hard, he really looked good enough to eat. It will be interesting to see if the audience for 3DOR consists mainly of woman of a certain age.

Yes, accompanied by "friends etc" who do not look so enthusiastic, or have a look of total surprise on their face when they open the programme and see who heads the cast list!!! I gather it's in "The Round" so those of us in the front row really will have a "Bird's eye view". I am going to have a look at "Scarlet Pimpernel" tonight to see E.M. I don't remember seeing her before. This will be a huge sacrifice on my part because I can't stand Richard E Grant!!! (Sorry any fans)

& tolerant husbands, you mean you haven't told them who is in the cast!! Apparently the actors run down the aisle onto the stage and guess who has got the aisle seat, not my hubby.

From the People Magazine:

Another delicious shot...

With dogs Flick and Flock:

Re: 3DOR I feel certain that all will be performing with American accents. According to the Donmar's website, isn't this play part of its "American series"? It would seem rather odd to change the setting in that case. I have the script and few articles about other performances of the play and an interview with the author. The play is also going to open locally in a few weeks and I just might go check it out, but I don't want to *SPOIL* anything for anyone.

Karen, thanks a lot for the pictures. The Feb. issue of People is not yet available in Finland so this relieves my eager curiosity a little....btw, I wonder how he manages to look like a totally different man in every picture.

Karen, Thanks for the pics, it's great to see them. I guess the coffee one is in the Villa (Umbria?), any info on the dogs? I can't imagine they reside in the Hackney flat. Is this PEOPLE article cobbled together like the NOW and SHE ones or has our DB actually invited them in to take the pics?? He'll be in HELLO next!!! LOL.

Thanks for the pictures Karen, I'm off to buy it tomorrow. BTW, there is a game we play in Italy called Flick & Flock. When two people are talking and they say the same word in unison, they lock pinkies and say uno, due tre, flick e flock and then they either say flick or flock. If they both say the same word, then their wish comes true. Great names for two dogs!

Colin makes the espresso, very cute! Now that he has quit smoking he's probably addicted to cafe.

Lovely game Moon, could that explain how they got their names? Perhaps he will play in 3DOR with an Italian/American accent?!! Does anyone know if we can get PEOPLE over here(eventually)?

(Lizza), Lovely game Moon, could that explain how they got their names? I think it is a very good guess.

Hi, everyone. I'm glad Colin has put everyone out of her misery; it was a sweet sorrow, but sorrowful nonetheless. I too am intrigued by the modern Don Quick. I can vageuly picture his inheritor, but he'd have to be slightly different - a bit more self-aware and pious, perhaps. I think DQ's naivety would not rest easily on modern shoulders. But an earnest PC equivalent could work. This is obviously the time, by the way, to rekindle an ancient and shallow university friendship with...Sam Mendes. Being the groupie I was, I used to hang out with the thesps at uni., and Mr Mendes was one of the crowd. Darling. Now he's a worldwide star and for some reason I see him less. But perhaps I could give him a call. "Sam, you won't remember me, but I have the perfect dresser for Colin - several dressers, in fact, all willing to work for next to nothing." How about it? [We could put in a little line in the Donmar programme: "Mr Firth is dressed by himself, and undressed, frequently, by a horde of enthusiastic Droolers.")

(Ben) [We could put in a little line in the Donmar programme: "Mr Firth is dressed by himself, and undressed, frequently, by a horde of enthusiastic Droolers.") I dare you, Ben......:-) ****** Thanks Karen for scanning the pics of PEOPLE... BTW anyone want to write a letter to the editor...and tell them this guy has almost 20 websites on the WWW, and has been around for a while... editor@people.com Include name, address and daytime telephone number. **** He'll be gorgeous with an american accent as well....but not as . Somehow the american accent in ATA killed the resonance in his voice. Perhaps he was just trying to be mid-west. PM accent was better. *** Those dogs are ugly. ****** I can see that the whole A row will be full of droolers, I can see that Row D [for Droolers:-)] is going to keep an eye on Row A!! I can see that Row D is going to have to keep an eye out for Row A:-)

The pictures are quite fabulous, darling. I'm not shy about saying I buy People every week (one must keep up with world events) and this is a very lengthy article compared to most. And all those pictures! I'm still amazed. Some of it are quotes we've heard before but perhaps said differently so either Colin uses stock answers to those same old questions. There is new information. But they have the facts correct - ages, dates (not going to quibble about Nostromo) and the new photos were all taken in Italy - the dog one says it was taken in December. Ann, hope I didn't mislead you. We'll be there just on Saturday, not Tuesday. But your tickets are for Saturday too, right? Ben, please give Sam our names... our fingers are quite fleet with buttons, zippers, etc.

Lizza, I wouldn't judge EM on the basis of the absolutely AWFUL "Scarlet Pimpernel". She can act (wasn't she in "The Wings of a Dove"?), although I didn't see any evidence of this tonight. Defeated by the script perhaps. BTW, why didn't anyone have a French accent? Karen, Re Three days of rain......I think it will have to be American accents, as it's an American season. But perhaps Walker, by dint of being a wanderer, could have a much less pronounced accent. I sound as though I'm agin the US accent...it's just that I think CF's natural voice/accent is very attractive, and an assumed accent can be distracting. Perhaps they could follow the example of "The Scarlet Pimpernel" and completely abandon any attempt at accents! BBC Films...I've noticed that most BBC feature films nowadays are co-productions, often with WGBH Boston, so I reckon you'll have a pretty good chance of seeing DQ in the States. Ben, I'm impressed! You move in very exalted circles! Lovely pics, especially with Flick and Flock! Very natural. He looks a mite self-conscious pouring the coffee! He'll be in HELLO next!!! LOL. Over my dead body! And remember the curse of Hello!

(Bethan), And remember the curse of Hello! Could you refresh our memory? Evelyn are you going to London for the play? I think Karen is going too. If only my husband had to go, I would join you all so happily. Of course we will want to see the program and you must take pictures when he takes the curtain call. Those pictures of Colin with the dogs might have been taken in Umbria over the Xmas holidays. The apt. building in Rome is not very likely to have a garden.

--I,ve just bought two copies of People...Haven't read it yeat and indend to leave y'all to do so...Happy Sunday!

Is that his in-laws' villa in Umbria? I remember reading that the reception was held in the family's villa. And the dogs (great pic, lovely dogs)..are they his pets? No mention of his in-laws in the article. Just says, "...he calls home a villa overlooking olive groves and ancient vineyards in the Italian region of Umbria, where he plays guitar, prowls the countryside for antiques and studies Italian." No mention of the dogs except for the caption under the photo that just says "...with Flick and Flock in Italy in December..." About his parents: "His parents met as schoolchildren in India, where their own parents worked as missionaries. While Firth was still a toddler, the family--which now includes brother Jonathan, 31, an actor, and sister Kate, 36, a voice coach--moved to Nigeria, where his parents were teachers." Hmmm, Jonathan is nothing more than a footnote in this article. Here's a passage I find interesting..." 'He was the kiind of student who almost never occurs,' says (Drama Centre) founder Yat Malmgren (whose previous students included Anthony Hopkins and Sean Connery). 'He had everything I expect and rarely find: imagination, intelligence, logic, common sense.' Indeed, the 37-year old institution decided to stage its first and only Hamlet just for him. 'You can't do five Hamlets a year,' says Malmgren. 'You've got to wait until you find your Hamlet. W found ours in Colin.' "

(Moon)The apt. building in Rome is not very likely to have a garden. But the article does not mention an apt. in Rome or in London for that matter. It does mention a condo in LA...and ..." he calls home a villa in Umbria" ****** Yes, I am going to London....after some arm-twisting...just booked my tickets.......someone has to keep Row A in line:-) BTW every airline has a special going in Feb. and March.United has a $228. RT from NY and $288.RT out of Chicago.American and the others are matching it. Online fares are probably even better. Also I read that Jennifer Ehle's new film "This Year's Love" will be playing in London... and Monet is"playing" at the National Art Gallery.

Love those pics from People. He does look oh so handsome. My market was sold out of the Feb 7 issue and I will have to go somewhere else on Monday. That is a must purchase. He does look so happy. A villa. How lovely.

Just a reminder VALMONT on Feb 5th on Encore.

I see that SIL has moved to no. 5 in the American top ten films this weekend, pretty darn good.

Hi, everyone. I'm glad Colin has put everyone out of her misery; it was a sweet sorrow, but sorrowful nonetheless. I too am intrigued by the modern Don Quick. I can vageuly picture his inheritor, but he'd have to be slightly different - a bit more self-aware and pious, perhaps. I think DQ's naivety would not rest easily on modern shoulders. But an earnest PC equivalent could work. This is obviously the time, by the way, to rekindle an ancient and shallow university friendship with...Sam Mendes. Being the groupie I was, I used to hang out with the thesps at uni., and Mr Mendes was one of the crowd. Darling. Now he's a worldwide star and for some reason I see him less. But perhaps I could give him a call. "Sam, you won't remember me, but I have the perfect dresser for Colin - several dressers, in fact, all willing to work for next to nothing." How about it? [We could put in a little line in the Donmar programme: "Mr Firth is dressed by himself, and undressed, frequently, by a horde of enthusiastic Droolers.")

Heaven...I'm in heaven.... Back from a week away, anticipating even a sliver of news and WOW!!! BBC movie, London stage (my hopes for eventual B'way, albeit remote, are resurfacing)and a People magazine spread!!! I just dashed out to buy it and all the stores around here are still carrying the Feb. 1 edition. I'm beginning to think I live under a rock, not in the NYC suburbs. Karen, thanks for the pictures to hold me over in the meantime. After such a looooonnng publicity drought, this is GREAT. And buzz that he's stopped smoki g! Too good. I was so bummed out about Harvey's omission at the GG's (yes, hooray for Gwynnie. Her praise for his abilities sounded so genuine on the Rosie show; this confirms that) that I couldn't get to sleep that night. I just knew my collegues at Drool would catch that! Oh, well, that's old news. I'm jealous of you Brits...two chances to see our DB coming up, but I'm content with the anticipation of FP. Thanks for the warning about the dialogue, KJArt. Heide, I'm still with you about Mark Darcy. Don't think he'll do it (much as we want him to.

I am sitting here wondering if I can justify the time it would take to go to either Selfridges or Harrods who will almost certainly get "People" magazine. How long do you tink it takes to arrive in Knightsbridge if it hasn't reached parts of the States yet? I am interested in the comments about his various homes. When he married, all the reports said that they had bought a flat, yards or should that be metres away from Livia's parents. From the decor in the pictures, I would guess that that is Livia's parents villa and that the dogs are theirs. C&LF travel too much to be able to keep dogs and Rabies quarantine regulations mean that they could not take them to England with them. A flat in LA. I found that interesting. I had always wondered where he stay d. (Lizza)I can't imagine they reside in the Hackney flat. Why not? I am sure I have asked for opinions on this flat before. As you may know, Hackney is one of the poorest boroughs in London. It does, however, have its fashionable parts. I am sure CF's flat must be in one of those. In 1995, when P&P came out it was always described as his �150,000 flat. House prices have risen considerably since then but even now that would be a lot to pay for a flat in that area. So if the reports are correct, then it must be somewhere quite special. Either overlooking ictoria Park or the canal or both. Even so, it is not the best place to live and I bet they eventually buy somewhere else, particularly if they have children and want good schools etc. Though I wouldn't expect them to choose somewhere very grand. I just think Colin likes to live somewhere low-key.

Another thought. Do you think that the release date of FP has been put back from February because CF will be on stage in London and therefore not available for interviews, premieres etc?

I'm jealous of you Brits...two chances to see our DB coming up, but I'm content with the anticipation of FP. (Eileen) You'll see him in the Donovan Quick in the States....I'm sure of that. "Mrs Brown" was a BBC film. I was reading the reviews of a BBC film televised last night, and I noticed that our reviews quoted reviews by the Hollywood Reporter and Boston Chronicle, so the film had obviously already been shown in the States. In many ways, I'd prefer CF to make films for BBC or Channel Four. They usually get a theatrical release, here and in the US, and the bottom line is that we will always see them on TV ). And they don't have to cater for the 17-24 market!! Compare this with the uncertainty over, for example, the release of SLOW! Heide, I'm still with you about Mark Darcy. Don't think he'll do it (much as we want him to He'll do it! It's very high profile (and who else could do it?) His bank balance will be a bit depleted after his stint at the Donmar! And the BBC don't pay oodles of dosh either! It looks as though he'll be busy! I was so bummed out about Harvey's omission at the GG's I was reading that Miramax have promoted SIL heavily at the expense of some of their own movies (MLSF?) BA and RE also have Miramax movies in the can awaiting release. I reckon Harvey has pushed SIL (and thereby boosted the careers of the hithertoo unknown JF, and GP), using BA, whilst RE and CF remain "on hold" in the background. Maybe that's why he thanked RE and BA. Perhaps CF is more laid back about fame! This is all very convoluted and Machiavellian...hope you follow my drift! From the decor in the pictures, I would guess that that is Livia's parents villa and that the dogs are theirs. (Allison) Agreed!

Thanks for the BBC info, Bethan. Better and better! I reckon Harvey has pushed SIL (and thereby boosted the careers of the hithertoo unknown JF, and GP), using BA, whilst RE and CF remain "on hold" in the background. Maybe that's why he thanked RE and BA. Didn't Harvey also allude to some "favor" BA and RE did for him? My memory isn't clear because I was anticipating hearing the one name that never came. And you're right, CF has always been very laid back about fame.

Finally got People Mag. Today. What a hysterically funny beginning! Talking about the pig in The Advocate: the pig, says its trainer, fell in love with Colin and so a leading man was born. Imagine that! I guess that makes us all Miss piggies. He would like his son to grow up in Italy because he finds it child friendly, unlike LA or London. WELL, I can tell you Milan is NOT kid friendly (the dirty looks we got in restaurants when I would bring my little boy), and I never had a problem in LA. He finds Rome and Romans exhilarating??? I give him two more years. I�ve been trying to make out the Italian town in the background of one of the pictures, will let you know if I figure it out. The People Issue is one that will appeal to a very large audience. Princess Caroline on the cover and all the movie stars from the GG. Colin got lucky, it will give him major exposure.

I also agree that the villa belongs to her parents. Now the casting of Mark Darcy--if it is to be an American production, they will probably cast a known American actor. Nick's other book is being filmed in Chicago. It would kill BJD for me were it not filmed in London. Let's hope for some un-common sense.

(Moon)He finds Rome and Romans exhilarating??? I give him two more years. LOL. Oh Moon...I'm glad you said that...I was thinking it all along. Rome, nice place for a short visit...long term? Hmmmmmm. Don't think so. Two years sounds about right.....wasn't that about the Van Couver duration? Allison, or anybody in UK ...I can send the People article . Ann's went out this morning. Agree that with Princess Caroline on the cover, it will be v. popular in Europe. If Miramax arranged for the spread..."all is forgiven, Harvey." But 250 million people were deprived from hearing Colin's name.

Now the casting of Mark Darcy--if it is to be an American production, they will probably cast a known American actor. Apparently the production/distribution operation of Polygram, which includes Working Title who are making BJD, has been sold to a very rich Arab businessman for $400million. I don't know if this affects Working Title (MD will be played by Omar Sharif?)...are they still part of Universal, or what? But even at my most pessimistic I can't see how MD can be played by anyone other than an English actor or Mel Gibson, :-)Mel has now made it three in a row. He's playing Sydney Carton, Ernest Shackleton and also ir James H...?, founder of the Oxford English Dictionary. No wonder English actors have to take "well-deserved breaks!" :-) How many people read "People"?

Good news, according to the PA Newscentre, SIL has raced to No.1 spot in the UK, in its first weekend, grossing nearly �2million.

RE: People article... You're right, Moon. Give him 2 more years. He's still in that "honeymoon stage" of being in a foreign country. I'd say most metropolitan areas around the world have kid-friendly/unfriendly spaces. I wonder what Meg Tilly thinks about CF's preference to raise him in Italy. But then again, let's remember we're getting sound-bytes--his praises for Italian culture may have been taken out of context. BTW-- never thought about CF owning a condo in L.A.. Makes sense... though real estate is ridiculously expensive, it's a better investment to own a condo rather than to stay in hotels. L.A. is so spread out, but the nice thing about it is that there's a district that's just blocks and blocks of condos (Westwood Wilshire Corridor). I will make sure to hang about and see if he's a resident. Or, if he prefers more working class digs (i.e. Hackney)-- he may be living in another area... South Central?! (ha ha a--highly doubt it)

(Allison) Do you think that the release date of FP has been put back from February because CF will be on stage in London and therefore not available for interviews, premieres etc? Yes! Yes! Yes! This is exactly what I think. Why open Fever Pitch if the major star is not there to push it? Bet it opens soon after he's available again (taking a break from filming Don Quick). (Bethan) I was reading that Miramax have promoted SIL heavily at the expense of some of their own movies (MLSF?) I wouldn't worry about this, Bethan. Maybe it's not Miramax's doing, but somebody is pushing publicity for Colin. All this exposure all at once! I don't know the circulation of People Magazine but it's HUGE! Is it possible he's decided to make a big push this year? I'll be curious to see the Letters to the Editor in People in 3 weeks. If they publish letters about the Colin article, I'll take that as a good sign.

thing about it is that there's a district that's just blocks and blocks of condos (Westwood Wilshire Corridor). } I think my sister lives near there. Maybe I should go out and visit her ;-)

Moon, LOVED the 2 years tops in Rome comment. I've found Rome to be dirty, noisey, rude and well, overall unpleasent. (loved the rest of Italy though!) i wouldnt last 2 weeks there. what can our DB be thinking?

For those wishing to access People on the Web: http://www.pathfinder.com/people/web/home.html

Winter, I somehow feel that his condo would be in Santa Monica. Close to the ocean, quaint shops, easy place to "hang out" with his son (as he put it). SBRobinson, Rome is now much cleaner, and don't get me wrong, I love it. Did you know that there is a walking tour: "Rome through its Fountains". I just find Romans extremely taxing. He is obviously romanticising Romans because he married one. He will of course be picking up the roman way of pronouncing Italian (poor dear).

I have just watched the A&E interview on tape. Oh my! He is sooo much better on that interview than I had expected. Why did no one prepare me for how charming he is? Though I have to say he does appear to be a little slacker round the jawline. He is only 38, not old enough to start getting baggy. It is almost as if he had put on weight and has now lost it. He just looked a bit jowly. But gorgeous nonetheless. I like men with a few imperfections, it makes them nicer IMO.

Moon � I was all over Italy last year and I thought Rome was very hectic--although I loved it. I plan on going back this year to Grado, Italy to take an immersion course in the language for school. What do you mean by the �roman way� of pronouncing Italian? Are you talking about dialect?

I visited Rome in November, it is very hectic Jana, but I can't imagine they will want to spend too much of 1999 there. I was reading about the projected numbers of tourists expected to visit because of the Millenium and the huge strain expected on already overstretched resources, like no traffic moving for days etc!!! Stay in Hackney or L.A. Colin.

BTW the "Curse of Hello" that Bethan so rightly refers to, is that participating couples who throw open their homes to photographers and indulge in lengthy interviews with 18 changes of clothes, then split up . As did "Gazza" etc I am sure Bethan has a more comprehensive list than me!!!! Stick to "People" Colin, your wardrobe couldn't take it!

(Jana), What do you mean by the �roman way� of pronouncing Italian? Are you talking about dialect? Not a dialect, more like a distinctive accent. Actually all the regions in Italy have them. We can usually tell where a person comes from. The "romano", is not that pleasant to lisen to. Did you know that the mud baths in Grado are quite popular? Will you be going to Venice too (you will be so close)? The "veneto" accent is quite pleasant BTW.

(Moon) I guess that makes us all Miss piggies. LOL! Oink, oink. Yes, that was a funny anecdote. The Roles Project has similar info. I think he later sent the pig a birthday card! IMO the article was well done and yes, it will give him excellent exposure. The momentum for SiL is building (and true Oscar hype hasn't even begun). As I hoped, bizillions of people are seeing the movie; nowPeople readers will be able to put his name with his face. The closeup picture of him (one of Karen's p sts) is just yummy. Is this the one in which you're looking at the background, Moon? It must be. In this article, he comes off happy and content with both his personal and professional life. The recycled quotes in She made him sound angry and resentful, IMHO. (Allison)He is only 38, not old enough to start getting baggy. So glad to read of his ambition to "stay off cigarettes." Should help in the 'baggy' department. BTW, Jana2, my condolences to your husband re: Superbowl outcome. My team lost late in the playoffs--I know too well how he feels. I attended an earlier playoff game and sat in the stadium in 20 degree weather with the flu. Wild horses couldn't have kept me away, though. I guess I have another reason (besides Colin) to see FP!

Ann, thanks for the info re SIL takings. As there were only 15 in the cinema when I went on Friday, things have improved!! I expect they will continue to rise as we all go for a second or third visit. The Oscar noms will continue to keep SIL's profile high. BTW, when are they in March??

I have had an answer to my letter to the editor of People. Thanks for your e-mail to PEOPLE. Our readers' views are important to us, and we're glad to learn that you enjoy PEOPLE. Your comments will be reviewed by the editors for possible publication in our Mail column. Maureen Fulton I don't want them to publish it necessarily....forget what I wrote. But I think it is important for them to get a positive response from the article. Especially from abroad.Go to it!! editor@people.com

Allison, I am glad you enjoyed the tape , I too thought he was charming but he did indeed seem a bit chubby around the neck and cheeks and that was why I was so agreeably surprised to see how lean and young and thin in the face he looked at the London Premiere, to have changed that much in the course of a few weeks was amazing, perhaps Livia put him on a strict diet and exercise.

(Ann W):perhaps Livia put him on a strict diet and exercise. And, do we all know which is the best exercise?! Oh Yesssssss!!!!!

Oh my gosh. I have been away from the Firth fold for about ten days due to a business trip and can hardly believe the flurry of droolworthy news which occurred during my absence: a play (I am absolutely green with envy of those who will see Firth-in- the-flesh), a movie (a modern day Don Q�..sounds like this is an apt role for the DB, as he always likes a challenge), and a magazine article (oh dear, I feel a bit like a preteen paging through Tigerbeat Magazine in search of pics to paste in my scrapb ok. :-)) I am deliriously happy about all of this good news. ( Bethan, your positive attitude for 1999 was prophetic!) I am thrilled that Colin was (finally) deemed newsworthy enough for a mainstream mag such as People. Next, I would love to see him featured in Vanity Fair�.. How delightful that CF is content professionally and personally. I have even come out of denial about how beautiful Livia indeed is. Belated thanks, Ann, for your account of the London premiere of SIL. I swear your photos of CF were better than the professional shots. :-) I am also thrilled that someone posted about Valmont on Encore. I had planned to purchase the video for a princely sum�.now I can just tape it. Even though I was away on business, I did my best to bring my business mentor into the fold. She mentioned how much she enjoyed S&S, and how fond she was Allen Rickman. With great restraint, I casually asked her if she had seen P&P. It turns out she has not had the pleasure. I then mentioned how much I enjoyed the series, etc. I sent her my tape of P&P today. (Evelyn, you have inspired me to start a mini lending library of my own!) I plan to call my mentor in a week to see if full-fledged Fi thomania has set in�.

Is anybody else having trouble loading Colinfirth.com, Murph's Corner or CF Chat?

(Eileen) BTW, Jana2, my condolences to your husband re: Superbowl outcome. My team lost late in the playoffs--I know too well how he feels. Thanks for the kind thought, Eileen. The poor boy was depressed indeed (and not a little crabby!) (LisaJH) and a magazine article (oh dear, I feel a bit like a preteen paging through Tigerbeat Magazine in search of pics to paste in my scrapbook. :-)) LOL! My thoughts exactly as I'm trying to casually dump two People's in my supermarket cart without jumping up and down with glee.

Has anybody posted the People article on a website? I would just like to read the whole article.

(Eileen), Is this the one in which you're looking at the background, Moon? Yes, I'm having a hard time making it out. It must be Citta delle Pieve, since her family has the house there. They liked your letter Evelyn, is it drool worthy?

We are back to the future and the favorite date. I wonder what will happen on Feb. 7, maybe Colin will decide to post something here, it must be a sign.

(Ann) Is anybody else having trouble loading Colinfirth.com, Murph's Corner or CF Chat? Yes, colinfirth.com appears to be down, hopefully of short duration. I had a helluva time getting here (since I'm subversive about my activities, I can't leave a cybertrail for the dear husband to follow). (Moon) We are back to the future and the favorite date. I wonder what will happen on Feb. 7, maybe Colin will decide to post something here, it must be a sign. But will we have to wait until 2036? (LisaJH) and a magazine article (oh dear, I feel a bit like a preteen paging through Tigerbeat Magazine in search of pics to paste in my scrapbook. :-)) (Jana) LOL! My thoughts exactly as I'm trying to casually dump two People's in my supermarket cart without jumping up and down with glee. I'm there too! I even bought She because it was there (even though KarenR has been kind enough to put it on line). I'm a hopeless case... Jana, I hope your husband is recovering. Mine is a fan too (although I'm more zealous) so we're both crabby together when our team loses. Welcome back, Lisa. BTW, TV Guide gave Valmont three stars. My sentiments exactly!

(Moon)They liked your letter Evelyn, is it drool worthy? Aw, they say the same thing to everybody who emails. I forget what I said ...something to the effect .. "thank you for acknowledging CF a great British actor who is consistently relegated to supporting roles... TEP,SIL,.He has almost 20 websites on the Internet and an active Chat..log on to: colinfirth.com.A hunk who deserves a starring role...Miramax are you listening?". I won't win the Pulitzer but they do count 'em.

If they publish your letter, we'll have to start hanging out on Chat...you never know. Eileen, LOL! Somehow I don't think we'll feel the same about him in 2036.

Will we feel the same about anything in 2036? :-) Some of you may have seen the Questiona and Answers with CF from the Mail on Sunday magazine...it's posted somewhere else. There was a copy of the paper at work, which I was going to "pinch" but by the time I decided to walk away with it, someone else had beaten me to it. Honesty doesn't pay! I found his answers very illuminating. If you've already read them , please excuse the repetition. A sample.... Q. What's the downside of fame? A. There is too much information out there. I don't think it is appropriate to be peering into what others are doing all the tiime. Somebody told me there was a big discussion over whether I'd worn contact lenses to play Mr Darcy. And I met a girl at a pary who was able to tell me my date amnd place of birth, the names of my brother and sister, the schools I'd been to...the Internet is where she got it all. (Oh dear, this gave me a real pang. The examples he quotes..contact lenses and knowing his date and place of birth are so innocuous really , and yet he obviously feels very uncomfortable about this. He really is very private and must have a genuine dislike of celebrity. Most "stars" are flattered by such interest, but he must find it intrusive. As I said, it gave me a pang (of guilt!) Q.Do you like being married? A. Yes! It's a stable point of reference from which you can face a lot of other things more courageously, especially if there's a central instability in your life. Q.What's the favourite room in your house? A. I've just bought a new house in London. I think it will be the upstairs living room, but I haven't decided what it will be yet. In my old house, it was the living room, because that's where the music was. it wasn't the kitchen. I cook but i'm messy. After I've cooked, the kitchen is nodody's favourite place. Q,So you like being villanous? A. There's nothing especially villanous abot Wessex. A lthough he's not a lovable creature. He doesn't mislead anyone. He doesn't even kill anyone. His greatest crime is his lack of poetry,

Excuse all the typos...done in great haste!! "upstairs living room" should read "upstairs front room" (if that makes a difference!)

Thanks for the excerpts, Bethan. I've not seen this before...where else is it posted? I see what you mean about his response to the downside of fame. He has always been consistent about that.

Hi Bethan, what an interesting interview! Makes me wonder about those questions he was sent and when are we to expect those answers? Hallo! May I contribute my sister's comments on SiL? She is not a Firthian, although she knows of our admiration for him (yes, "our", I've told her about Drool). She lives in Toronto. "We went to see Shakespeare in Love and i must admit I didn't find it espectacular... I enjoyed it, but didn't think it was the best film in the last season, as has been said by some people, over here. Anyway, i couldn't say which was the best film of the season - I haven't seen anything special. I completely forgot about Colin Firth until I got out of the theatre - truly this guy is the typical "character actor". And his part was, of course, hateful... But he was better looking than Shakespeare who, IMHO, was a nobody with bad shoulders and only one suit." So there you are... ATA is opening in Lisbon later this month. I'm delighted!

Hi Bethan, what an interesting interview! Makes me wonder about those questions he was sent and when are we to expect those answers? Hallo! May I contribute my sister's comments on SiL? She is not a Firthian, although she knows of our admiration for him (yes, "our", I've told her about Drool). She lives in Toronto. "We went to see Shakespeare in Love and i must admit I didn't find it spectacular... I enjoyed it, but didn't think it was the best film in the last season, as has been said by some people, over here. Anyway, i couldn't say which was the best film of the season - I haven't seen anything special. I completely forgot about Colin Firth until I got out of the theatre - truly this guy is the typical "character actor". And his part was, of course, hateful... But he was better looking than Shakespeare who, IMHO, was a nobody with bad shoulders and only one suit." So there you are... ATA is opening in Lisbon later this month. I'm delighted!

Sorry about the double post, my mistake. Hallo Eileen, are you there?

Oh, Bethan, fairlady what news thou bringest. It is a very sad day indeed, to think he does not appreciate all the hard work that goes on on the internet for him. I feel your pain. I very much doubt now that he will answer our questions. I think I will now go incognito so if you don�t hear from me again, just look to the moon and if you call me back, I shall. **sigh**

So, he has bought a house!!! I knew they would have to. That means that London will be their main base, I think. I wonder where it is. It sounds like a Victorian house (main living room on the first (i.e. second floor in US)). It sounds as if they have not moved in yet. I have been gazing at all the "sold" signs around here. BTW I do hope he isn't reading this. He would obviously hate it and who can blame him.

BTW I do hope he isn't reading this. He would obviously hate it and who can blame him. IMO anyone who enters the entertainment or political arena should expect fans and non-fans. In any event, knowing where one was born and family etc is not being necessarily invading one's private life. He has given out this info himself in various interviews. And they are posted on the internet...just as they are cataloged in newspaper archives.. It isn't like the Internet is making info up about him. The Internet is an information tool. Sheeesh!!Am I glad Jennifer Ehle and her agent are enthused about hers and actually like it. We are really quite harmless. Was this the whole interview, Bethan?

I agree to an extent, Evelyn, but I was revealing that I was going round peering into houses, wondering if that is where he lives. As I wrote it, it felt a bit like stalking. I do think there is a different attitude to actors in the UK. I know a number of actors and it is almost a career choice a bit like deciding to become a lawyer. The entertainment industry is broad and in this country we would make a distinction between those who make their living by being themselves famous and those like Colin, ho would rather make their living selling their skills as an actor. He has a fine line to tread. He obviously wants good parts and he realises that his name, as in any profession, is important. The more people who know you, the more likely you are to get good work. What he is saying, as I am sure you understand, is that he is prepared to forego some star parts in order to preserve some privacy for himself and his family. He does not want his whole life to become public. IMHO, Jennifer Ehle might be cooperative because she doesn't have people panting after her. She knows her fans are probably interested because they admire her work. I think Colin probably fears that his fans are more interested in him as a person and that he is afraid of. To be seen to go along with that would be to court the derision of the profession in the UK. It is really quite easy to be a famous person in London. People really do not hassle you, unless, like pop stars for instance, you sell yourself as part of your claim to fame. Colin obviously wants to avoid that. I have rambled on rather a lot in a not very coherent way. It is just that I can see where he is coming from. If he were a more secure person, he would probably handle it better but his insecurities are probaboly what makes him the man we like to watch.

I really hope that Colin answers have either been misrepresented or mis-quoted because I have to say that I feel this is a slap in the face for his wonderful internet fans. Surely when you become an actor you expect a certain amount of public attention, does he not want fans to turn up next week to see his play, would be prefer to play to an empty house, it is a two way thing and I feel very sorry for those wonderful ladies from America and Europe who are travelling so far just to see him. I am sure tha because of the internet fans half of the tickets will be taken before it is even been advertised and what is so bad about us knowing when his birthday is, who his parents are and where he went to school. I would have thought he would have been flattered that so many fans were interested in him. His private life is his private life and I do not want to know what he had for breakfast but discussing his work promoting his new projects and saying only complimentary things about him does not seem to much o me. I certainly do not feel guilty and I hope he does read this and then he might realise what wonderful and considerate fans he has. I am beginning to see what Laura means about a love hate relationship. But no I shall calm down, I was so excited when I received my tickets this morning to 3DOR, I shall believe that he has been grossly mis-quoted and prefer to think of him as Winter described as charming friendly and amiable. Sorry about that I just had to get it off my chest because I think he has he most wonderful and considerate fans anyone could have.

Sorry I, of course, meant next month (March) .

The article in People Magazine is great. I like the caption, Firth and Foremost. I like the part about the pig in The Advocate falling in love with him,( another leading lady falls in love with him) and the one about the fender bender he had in Rome. Another interviewer is taken by his lack of conceit. She says "With his trademark gentleman's reserve he says of Livia, "She keeps me grounded." Where is Umbria? I didn't know he liked antiques. Celebrity 1000 is up and running again. I don't understand Derek Jacobi getting so few votes.

The article in People says that Fever Pitch is to be released soon. does anyone know when.

Lucie, we heard that FP would be released in March. We are assuming that he will come for a premiere, and he will be performing in 3DOR till mis Feb. Allison....I agree that stalking is the lowest form of admiration and never to be condoned. But on the Internet his websites are only posting information that has already been published.Jennifer is a v.private person too...she goes to the BAFTAs accompanied by her father!!! (Allison)IMHO, Jennifer Ehle might be cooperative because she doesn't have people panting after her. She knows her fans are probably interested because they admire her work. Are You Kidding???You don't know the emails and guest book comments we get from GUYS. This is a REAL WOMAN. She ain't no Judi Dench!! I think he just had a "bad hair day". And like many of his interviews...will probably retract what he said. After all, he told Winter he"really appreciated them(Internet fans)". I still think he is a hunk ...whether he wants me to think so or not:-)

There is too much information out there. I don't think it is appropriate to be peering into what others are doing all the tiime. Somebody told me there was a big discussion over whether I'd worn contact lenses to play Mr Darcy. And I met a girl at a pary who was able to tell me my date amnd place of birth, the names of my brother and sister, the schools I'd been to...the Internet is where she got it all. First of all, I take everything I read with a grain of salt. While this may be a direct quote, if I don't hear it from his mouth, I can't be too concerned. Secondly, Colin is not from the Plant Zarg. ;-) He can't honestly think this information is only found on the Internet. It's on the Internet because it can be found in magazine articles, etc., presumably done with his permission. We're normal, intelligent, thriving women with many interests. This is just for fun and none of us are going to pry where we don't belong but come on... birthdates are fair game. Heck, most of the time we're not even drooling but having fairly intelligent discussions about the state of the film industry, etc. When we do drool it's giggly, teen-age slumber party stuff - totally harmless - and we're totally aware we're being silly but who cares? Don't feel guilty because the article implies he doesn't un erstand us. He's never going to come here so don't worry about it. Besides, we're HARMLESS! And we pay good money to keep his industry going.

This is just a PS and not on this topic... But I have a gut feeling that he must have a new publicist in the UK. Witness all the publications who have featured him in the past month: SHE,PEOPLE,DAILY MAIL, and "Man of the Moment" article from some other publication.This from a man that isn't even mentioned in most of the SIL reviews.And, who up to now, hasn't even been heard from in a year.

A lot of people have already said what I did above...but I had to get my two cents in too. Here's the beginning of that People article, Allison. I'll type more later or maybe someone else will.. "Colin Firth was in trouble--and not just because the 1995 BBC drama he was starring in revolved around a pig accused of murder. No, the problem was not the plot. The problem was the leading lady; a half-pig, half-boar named Gwinny who was, to put it delicately, no Babe. "Gwinny had tusks," says her owner, Joe Henson of England's Cotswold Farm Park. "She had already bitten another actor twice." As Firth, playing a medieval attorney defending the swine, entered an old London gungeon to shoot the first scene with his temperatmental costar, Henson stood close by in case the beast needed soothing. She did not--not byo him at least. Firth sat down next to Gwinny and began talking to her. "Then he started scratching behind her ear, and she literally rubbed up against him and laid down with her head in his lap. The pig,' says Henson, 'fell in love with him.' "And so a leading lady's man was born--though Tom Cruise needn't start sweating yet. From his role as the doomed husband in 1996's The English Patient to his current part as the dastardly Lord Wessex in the critically acclaimed Shakespeare in Love, Firth, 38, has made his name somewhat to the east of Hollywood and Vine. His 1995 role as the smolderingly righteous Mr. Darcy in the BBC's version of Pride and Prejudice (it aired in the US on A&E in 1996) drew 10 million viewers a week n Firth's native Britain. At the time, it also turned him into the kind of national superhunk whos e ever move--including a trip to buy a vacuum cleaner, he grumbles--made headlines. 'The tabs can be unscrupulous,' says Firth with wry understatement. "They make stuff up.' "No need to make up praise for his portrayal of the pernicious English aristocrat who comes between Wiliam Shakespeare (played by Joseph Fiennes, broth of Ralph) and the Bard's true love (played by Gwyneth Paltrow). As The New York Times put it, '[He is] a perfect Mr. Wrong,' Still Firth knows that his supporting role is unlikely to catapult him to Hollywood-style superstardom anytime soon. 'I've got nothing against being adored,' he says. 'Actors do need to be praised. But do I want everyone i a restaurant to know me? Absolutely not.' Which is just one reason he calls home a villa overlooking olive groves and ancient vineyards in the Italian region of Umbria , where he plays guitark, prowls the countryside for antiques and studies Italian. But even in Italy, Firth cannot totally avoid stares--at least ont when his wife of 19 months is with him. She is 'far too beautiful', jokes Firth's English Patient costar Kristin Scott Thomas of Livia Guiggioli, 29, whom Firth met on the set of the BBC drama Nostromo in 1996. (She wa taking time off from her Ph.D. studies at the University of Rome to work as a producer's assistant). Says Firth's friend, author Nick Hornby (whose book Fever Pitch is a soon-to-be-released movie starring Firth): 'She's also like him in that she's incredibly wordly, smart, and self-deprecating.' " copyright People Magazine A lot more....

Love all these posts. Thank you to everyone

If Evelyn is not successful in getting a People Mag with DB in it, perhaps with all of the quotes, I will know something of it. Like SIL. I am watching it by flipping through the stills you post. The price of living in Paradise. BTW, he should know that when we talk about "his" physical merits, we talk about the Character he is playing. Never about the man, himself. We are far too respecting and respectable for anything else. Are we nOt?! =P

People really panned Kenneth Branagh and Helena Bonham Carter's The Theory Of Flight. Is it really that bad?

Bethan, do you happen to know where this whole article has been posted, I think I need to read it all, a nd I have calmed down since last night and as we know the newspapers are very clever at distorting the facts.

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Sorry about that I was having a problem with posting. I just lost a long post. grrrr! Here goes again. Heide, thank you so much for the excerpt. I love the pig story. I remember the first time I posted on this board, I got into bad trouble for suggesting that MT and JE were not the only leading ladies CF had had a thing for:-) (AnnW)as we know the newspapers are very clever at distorting the facts. That is so true. There was an awful article back in 1996 in the Daily Express. They had been scooped by the Daily Mail about Colin and Livia's relationship. They ran an article under a picture of the two which made them look as shifty and unattractive as possible. The gist of it was that CF had let being Darcy go to his head. He had had a makeover and was no longer a weed with a moustache and had taken to wearing "designer black" [his dinner jacket!!]He had used his wealth and new found glamour to se uce this poor girl from the backstreets of Rome with a bogus offer of marriage which had delighted her poor parents but which nobody else knew anything about. This latter,wasn't stated explicitly of course was it was strongly inmplied. No wonder he dislikes the press!

I was having trouble with my posts. So have split these up. I am going on about this - sorry. I think his comments about the Internet were only in relation to the amount of information that is out there (here?) I would imagine that he undersstands the benefits of being known. He is just prepared to trade some fame for a more normal life style. There is a sort of unwritten rule these days in the press that if you introduce an aspect of your life into the public domain then it is fair game. I do not think that Colin will ever talk about Livia in any detail. If we see a spread in "Hello" with Colin and Livia would round each other on the sofa in the living room of their new house, I shall be very surprised (and disappointed).

Eeeek! I am having system problems here. Not sure if it is you or me. That should say wound round.

God, I�ve been having enormous trouble getting here for several days, downloading takes so much time and I tend to get stuck. Easy to measure one�s addiction by the amount of frustration that this can cause. Bethan, thank-you very much for reciting the interview in Mail on Sunday. Is it much longer than that? I�m a bit surprised at the way some of you have taken his comment on �the downsides of fame�, I mean we all know how much he likes privacy and his unwillingness to sell himself to the media. That�s one of the reasons why many of us admire him so much, he�s very different to many other actors in that sense. Rather than imagining that the paper has put his comment wrong, I believe he said it exactly but it really shouldn�t be taken so hard. It was just a little unthoughtful, or in fact a tiny bit stupid of him, and again, I like it how sincere he can be about things, he hasn�t planned his answers beforehand to create a certain likeable imago. He obviously feels uneasy about having fans but how can you be successful in this profession and not wake interest as a person....it�s just not logical, in fact it�s a it self-centered. Yes, he�s human all right. Anyway, it seems to me he has answered those questions very quickly and without a second thought. That�s what he often does, I believe! Colin thinks and talks quickly and I�m absolutely positive that he also very often says things that he�d like to correct a little afterwards. Remember him saying once in an interview something like �tomorrow I�ll give you a totally different answer�.

(Elena)Anyway, it seems to me he has answered those questions very quickly and without a second thought. A very good point. But I do think his answers do not make complete sense and I suspect that his comments are a precis of a much longer interview. He could not think, for instance, that the only way anybody knows his date of birth is via the internet! I have yet to read an article on a subject with which I am familiar, in the popular press or any press for that matter, which has been accurately reported.

He is just prepared to trade some fame for a more normal life style. Fat Chance. I am reminded of an interview with Harrison Ford. Apparently he cannot go three blocks without being recognized...his remark to this privacy invasion was: "I made a pact with the devil". I do think he often "shoots from the lip",.. repents afterwards. I didn't take offense, Allison, nor did it diminish my admiration for his work. But practically speaking..he should not damn the entire press corps, he has gotten some good write-ups and they can be very beneficial.

You are right, Evelyn. I think Elena has a point, too. I don't think our DB is exactly Einstein;-)

I don't think our DB is exactly Einstein;-) Oh I think he is v. intelligent. But lacks "street smarts" as far as dealing with live interviews and the press. For one thing his answers are longer than really necessary.And he should learn pat answers to questions. For instance, when asked about current relationships etc. JE always says: I don't believe in divulging too much of my private life, it hinders the credibility of the character one portrays.Now, that is a v. diplomatic answer. But then she was brought up in this environment and has parents to help her cope with the press.

Thanks for the info contained in the articles ladies. Is this a recent Mail on Sunday Bethan? My concern is that we are seeing articles in more "downmarket" publications, Evelyn's theory could be right re publicist. He has traded the Indie on Sunday for the Mail and "She" etc Obviously a more populist image. If he only knew it he has a most refined, intelligent and loyal following (yes that's us!!!) from the internet. I agree with the comment that it would be good to see him in "Vanity Fair" any other publications that you ladies of infinite taste would like to see our DB featured in?

Forgive me, I'm a little behind on these many posts from the past few days, but I just wanted to comment on Colin's alleged remarks about his fans. In the People article, Colin said something to the effect that actors like to be adored. He likes to be adored perhaps, but only on his terms. He wants to be private but Livia is always being photographed with him. He gives interviews and then is surprised that his fans remember what he said and what is written about him. All I can say is that he should be v. happy that his has such loyal fans, ones that fly to another country just to see him in a play. How many actors could boast of that? Acting is part f a business. People invest in films and plays and want to see a return on their investment. This is where fans are useful-they give an actor a leg up on the competition on landing a role if he fans that will come see his work. In England, acting might be more of a profession but the British film industry still needs to make money. The end result is that show business is a business everywhere. Evelyn, thank you for the kind words about JE. Anyone who doesn't think she has her share of men panting after her hasn't taken a good look at her. Ann, Your pictures from the London premiere were lovely and Colin looked terrific. You are such a nice loyal fan :-)) to share his moments of glory with us. Thank you.

What an interesting discussion (as usual). Personally, I do not take such comments CF made about info (regarding himself) on the Internet to heart. I think of Drool as a wonderful networking tool: I would have missed the A&E interview and the People Magazine article, etc., if it hadn�t been for all of you. I like to think of us as an erudite and discerning group of women who appreciate a fine (and good looking) actor when we see one. What is wrong with spreading the word about his limited play run, etc.? Our younger online sisters, the Baleheads, have rallied on behalf of actor Christian Bale, and he appears to be aware and appreciative of their collective efforts. How could CF not be appreciative of his fans lobbying on his behalf, let alone travelling half way �round the world to see him act in a play? I tend to agree that CF�s comments were taken out of context and/or he spoke off the cuff without thinking through his answers for the press. In addition, it must be maddening to try to convey one thing in an interview, and later see your words twisted around in print. As Mark Twain once said: " The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated." :-)

There is an old saying in the business. "I don't care what you say about me as long as you spell my name right." Perhaps a little too permissive for the Firths, but no press is death to someone counting on making his living from the public's approval.

Lisa , and what a "networking tool", I am sure that the tickets for 3DOR would not have disappeared so fast without Drool!! thinking of our DB being "Misrepresented by the press", I am reminded of the coverage when he met Livia and she was variously reported as being 21 or 22, in fact a different age every time, which prompted him to say , angrily I think , that he wouldn't be going out with a "bimbo" etc We know the press never gets it entirely right, which just makes Drool the perfect medium. SO THERE!!!

Forgive the grammatical errors in my last post. Much to my humiliation, I catch them after I have posted. ::sigh:: So much for being erudite.....:

Here, her, well said everyone, and we shall still go on supporting, discussing and admiring our DB.

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Why is it in italics? Lizza I am going to Chat.

Seems he has struck a nerve, huh? I felt the same pang Bethan did when I read the comment concerning the contact lens discussion. That speaks directly to the Internet (as others have said, all the other demographic info is in every print article and just duplicated on-line). My first reaction was "good lord, if he knew about the CF-CFC discussion at Darcy Drool a while ago..." But I agree with you, Evelyn, Heide, Susanne and others. It's nothing more than harmless speculation; I've enjoyed reliving m teenage years (and I go back to the days of David Cassidy and Donnie Osmond so it's been a loooong while!)--it sure is different than breaking into his house! I also would have missed *alot* had it not been for this board and absolutely love chatting with people all over the world about Colin. IMO if he knew some of you were flying to London specifically for his upcoming play he would be most appreciative. I think his "comfort zone" or boundary is drawn about his privacy, and feels invaded from time t time by the press (or in this case, the 'net). He seems to get over it because he's doing the interviews! I have some time so I will try to pick up where Heide left off with the People article. Anyone available for a chat later?

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Heaven�s sake, I DID NOT say that he�s not exactly an Einstein because I think he almost is (!) but you know, Einstein did have his faults, some of them quite horrible too I hear. The biggest reason for my firthophilia is his intelligence but intelligent people can sometimes be too daft to be true, you know. And that�s what Colin�s dream is, I mean the idea of being an actor in the movies and completely unknown at the same time! Ha! After having blamed my biggest idol for stupidity, unthoughtfulness and egocentrism, I want to praise him in the A & E interview. You must all be tired of this subject but I finally got the tape today (many thanks to Maria!) and....well, I think Colin�s almost unbearably sweet in it. I can�t get it how he can possibly look so charmingly shy and kinda untouched. The interviewer obviously managed to make him nervous by her own nervousness. The interview is terrible technically, I mean it shows how much inte esting things our Einstein could say and create in a moment if he get a proper chance and if his thinking wasn�t interrupted. What was that about Darcy�s contact lenses, is he referring to something that has been discussed at Drool? Talking about Darcy, if Colin really is this vulnerable about fame, the biggest Darcy mania must have been a big shock for him. In fact, we don�t know everything about the causes of it, there might have been some very unpleasant things like people watching his house day and night and whatever. In fact I used to think that it could have been a reaction to all this that he married and vanished to Italy

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WOW! I seem to have raised a storm by reporting CF's comments.! I have to say that I only gave a selection of his responses, and my overall impression, after reading all the questions and his (quite serious)answers, was of a very normal, unassuming and modest man, who continues to be rather ill at ease with fame and the broader implications of "celebrity". He genuinely seems to think of himself as ordinary and I'm sure his upbringing has made him self-effacing rather than self-promoting. I thought his "contact lens etc" comments indicated that he was genuinely taken back that people were so interested in him and in the personal details of his life, and he probably isn't entirely comfortable with this degree of attention. I'm sure it doesn't mean that he doesn't appreciate his fans. On a personal one-to-one level, he appears to be perfectly charming and warm...he hugs people, for goodness sake!! Haven't got all the interview, just bits, but here's some more: Q. How important is money to you? A. I wouldn't do something just for a big pay cheque. I don't despise money, but I think if one isn't too greedy you can have your cake and eat it. You can do good work, make a good living, have a proper personal life and be proud of what you do and not be destroyed by it" He also says that he went into acting because he has a "hunger for attention, but when the light is shining directly in your eyes, it can be very intimidating, and on those occasions there's a tendency to go to ground" Which sounds as though he finds it difficult to be in the limelight. Must finish, as family need phone/computer/tea etc, but there is more....

Moon, dear,are you supposed to contact His agent about the answers to our questions?

People DID watch his house/flat when P&P2 came out. Is there not the famous quote from him about not being able to go out "for a bog roll" in case of being watched or followed. Now would Einstein have discussed "bog rolls?"

Well Bethan if he is into "HUGS" he going to have a lot to get through at the Donmar isn't he ladies, because we don't just want one for ourselves, we want one in lieu for each one of you ardent loyal internet fans who can't be there!

Just to chime in re: Internet fans, there was an item in the gossip section of the Boston Herald a few weeks back deriding Ben Affleck as being "so vain that he actually chats with female fans in the chat room of his unofficial web site." And I thought, what's vain about that? I think it was a very generous and appreciative gesture. Would that we could get Colin to do that! It seems as though with the Internet, actors are damned if they do (i.e., appreciate fans and be called vain) or damned if they don't

(Eileen)....if he knew some of you are flying to London for his upcoming play he would be most appreciative Hmmm, I�ve been wondering about that because I�m heading for London too. It could be interesting for him to know about this pilgrimage because it IS a tremendous proof of affection, but I�m not sure that he WANTS affection nor that he appreciates it, he just wants to be professionally appreciated. How would he feel if he knew that on a certain Saturday there will be people in the audience who have come from so far away just because of him....happy? Horrified?!

I don't know if I would actually like it if our DB was actually joining us online!! I prefer our discussions to be uninhibited and relaxed, imagine all the mistakes in postings we would make with quivering fingers!!! I don't think we would really enjoy having him declare himself in our midst after all. But prove me wrong!!! With your snippet Susan , I wonder if the BA "LUVVIE" character with the big ego , was acting in SIL !!! It could certainly massage his ego to chat about himself. Could that have been the final death knell for GP?

Elena, it's getting to look like quite a large proportion of that Saturday audience are there because of him and drool!!

Thanks for the additional interview info, Bethan. Keep it coming, at your convenience. As I just said over in chat, I've got it all figured out. Since so many of you droolie firth-faithful are attending 3DOR, the play will undoubtedly be a success...Colin will begin to recognize your familiar faces in the audience...when you meet him at the stage door (to collect your hugs), you can tell him you're his INTERNET fans! :-) Seriously, his comments about fame and money have always been consistent. Here's more from the People article, picking up from where Heide left off: With his trademark gentleman's reserve, Firth says simply, "She keeps me grounded." There have, of course, been romances besides Gwinny and Livia--most notable with actress Meg Tilly, whom Firth met when they costarred in the 1989 film Valmont. They were together for several years and have a son, William, now 8, who lives with Tilly in L.A. Firth, says Scott Thomas, "is very attached to his son." Firth says he and William just like to "hang out" when he's in L.A. (where Firth owns a condo): "T ere's nothing unconventional about our activities." The same can hardly be said for Firth's own childhood. Born in Hampshire, England, he was the first of three children of two teachers, David, now 64, who taught social studies, and Shirley, now 62, with a Ph.D. in comparative religion. His parents met as schoolchildren in India, where their own parents worked as missionaries. While Firth was still a toddler, the family--which now includes brother Jonathan, 31, an actor, and sister Kate, 36, avoice coach--moved to Nigeria, where his parents were teacher . (In Firth's intellectual, Christian home, the word "sin" did not come up, he once told Britian's The Guardian , but there was always a sense of "right and wrong.") When he was 3, the family returned to Hampshire, and Firth enrolled in the local elementary school--much to his dismay. "there were moments I enjoyed and [a few] teachers I found inspiring," he allows. "The rest of it I despised." Of the moments he enjoyed, English and music classes ranked high. But even as a young boy, his passion was drama. "I did a pantomime when I was 5, and everyone loved it," says Firth. He joined a drama workshop at 10 and by 14 had decided on acting as a profession. "I dare say it was an excuse to be bad at math," he says, laughing. After graduating in 1979, he spent a "bleak" six months answering phones at London's Shaw Theatre and six more months working in wardrobe at the National Theatre there. In 1980 he was accepted at London's prestigious Drama Centre and for the first time felt excited by his studies--most of them. "We used to rebel a lot and [cut] classes that we didn't like," says Firth's classmate and friend, actor Ian Jeffs. But occasionally playing hooky didn't tarnish Firth's star. "He was the kind of student who almost never occurs," says school founder Yat Malmgren (whose previous students included Anthony Hopkins and Sean Connery). "He had everything I expect and rarely find: imagination, intelligence, logic, common sense." Indeed, the 37-year-old institute decided to stage its first and only Hamlet just for him. "You can't do five Hamlets a year," says Malmgren. "You have to find your Hamlet. We found ours in Colin." More... copyright People Magazine 2/8/99 Forgive any typos. That's all for now!

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About bog rolls.....yes, I found that Einsteinous (!). Poor guy tried to make people realize that he really is a normal human being, not Darcy or the biggest sex god of the century, and probably succeeded to some extent. Reading that quote at the time made me realize he must be desperate and that the situation is getting to his nerves.

(Lisa)I like to think of us as an erudite and discerning group of women who appreciate a fine (and good looking) actor when we see one. What a nice compliment....Wow! Thanks Eileen for typing some of that long People article. Bethan, did you say that article is on line? Where? Bethan....Allison....answer your emails!!

(Patas), Moon, dear,are you supposed to contact His agent about the answers to our questions? I am very much on top of this. I have been told repeatedly that he will answer them, but now I am doubtful. They are expecting me to ring them next week and I shall, will let you know. They do know that there will be several internet fans flying in from the States and Europe for 3DoR because through Heide, we have fax them the news. I am working on getting THE opening dates for FP and MLSF in the States. Another question is when Don Quick starts filming and who the co-stars are. Allison, you were not stalking, believe me, my v. good friend's sister was killed by a stalker in Milan. I don't believe you to be a dangerous person, you're just a v. curious female, join the club. I went to see the church where he married on my trip to Umbria. As you Bethan, I take his comments seriously, I am slowly recuperating.

The old worry about the adoring destroying the adored - as old as...Jesus Christ, in fact. Can the argument ever be resolved? Probably not, but perhaps it doesn't much matter unless you end up like that nut who slept in Di Caprio's bed in Hollywood, or the DeNiro figure in The Entertainer. Having said that, none of the things he's said in the interview is terribly surprising surely? You know he's at least equivocal about fame. In fact, it's probably part of his appeal. I am one of those, incidentally, who would probably not stand unmoved, or unpanting, if Jennifer Ehle came into my office and did a slow striptease. I venture there are a few of us. But I also know she has a little place in her heart, and a big place in her bed, for ME.....(sounds of maniacal stalkerish cackling)

Truly, it's just not worth getting upset over. We're interpreting his comments. Why get upset if the interpretation is unflattering to us? We'll never know if that's really what he meant. By the way, to clarify our contact with Colin's agent: Moon has two very reasonable questions for the agent only - one about the Fever Pitch opening and one about My Life So Far's opening. In that message, she just mentioned how pleased we were to learn about Three Days of Rain and that some people "will be traveling to London to see him perform." Nothing stalker-ish about that. ;-) Thanks, Bethan, for posting more of the interview. And thanks, Eileen, for posting more of the People article. Anyone else care to continue? Thanks

OK, I might as well use up a lot of my Library hour and get my two cents in too! I don't see why everyone is getting so bruised about Colin's answer to the fame question. As I see it, the question was "What was the DOWNSIDE of fame?" i. e.; what can be unpleasant about it. He was being perfectly honest about what he felt was unpleasant about it, and any regular follower of his KNOWS how he feels about "fame". This does not mean that he doesn't expect to experience the side effects, nor that he is unwilling to cope with it, but he just wasn't COMFORTABLE with some total stranger w lking up and quoting all his biostats at him. (What's the purpose of that, incidentally? Did they think he'd forgotten them?!?) I know if some stranger walked up to me and quoted my stats, you'd better believe that I would be more than uncomfortable with it. Luckily, I'm not in that position (strangers tend to run the other way!) (And, Moon, be honest...it isn't that he doesn't appreciate all the hard work done on the Internet FOR HIM...face it, dear, its FOR US!) ;-p Anyway it was an unfortunate (and honest) off-the-cuff reaction to the question...and one we could have predicted. Heide, I think you summed up the situation very well. (Oh, and Laura...don't be so open with your ambition of chewing on his exquisite neck...no wonder he's nervous!) ;=P Bethan you said the interview was "posted somewhere else"...so, WHERE, already?!?

One other observation, I think. Gi, your sister had it in a nutshell...she'd "forgotten" about Colin until after the movie was over! He "disappears" into his characters. That is both his blessing and his curse. I believe he will never be readily recognized in public because every one of his "incarnations" is different from all the others...and also from him in an informal situation...so he is less vulnerable to the "downsides" of fame than many others in his profession...but his generally neutral appearance will always, I think, keep him from being a "well-known" actor to the general public...and that "People" article seems to mak it clear that that is just fine with him!

I think you've all got the gist of those recent interviews and what may be hidden behind them. His insecurities, his characteristic manner of thinking fast, way ahead of his words... his need to say as much as he thinks is needed to make the listener understand... wandering off the subject... saying things he didn't really mean to in the first place... being interrupted and forgetting to finish the previous statement... confusing all but the most experienced and sympathetic reporters... So you think he's urprised that people know so much about him? Uncomfortable about it? But look: simultaneously, in the same interview, he's gleefully feeding more personal info: He cooks. He's messy. He's just bought a house in London with a front room on the second floor. He likes to relax listening to music. I didn't find his remark about the Internet in the least disparaging. More flabbergasted. Furthermore, one could easily interpret the casually made comment as a clever way of innocently, almost inadvertently, pointing all interested parties directly to the very place where the buzz is at its most intense... Make no mistake: our man is clever enough to express loudly his (yes, basically genuine and honest) doubt, but at the same time he cannot afford to ignore a good and cheap opportunity for publicity. He is indeed too modest and too private to say openly "Oh, goodie: I love it!" (simply because he, as well as all of us, realize what would happen next), but if he really utterly and completely disapproved, he would simply avoid talking about it loudly, in a whingeing fashion, and to a (presumably) complete stranger, knowing very well that it's gonna be smeared all over some Sunday rag or another just as SIL (and soon the theatre project) is hitting the headlines... ;-D And before you all jump for my jugular - no, I don't think he is duplicitous. But, after 16 years in the business, neither is he that simple or naive as some would imagine him to be.

I find I'm agreeing with everyone.....does that mean I don't have a mind of my own? Although, Arami, I don't find his interviews particularly confusing! On safer ground, some more Q&A's. Q. What do you see when you look in the mirror? A. Something very over familiar and ordinary. Q. What's your charm? A. I have a kind of neutrality, physically, which has helped me. I have a face that can be made to look a lot better or a lot worse, depending on how I wwant it to look. Q. Have you discovered your feminine side? A. It's more acceptable in England for men to be a little more feminine. Suddenly we're all touchy-feely-weepy people. Tony Blair comes out and cries about Diana. Fifteen years ago a male prime minister doing that kind of William Shatner voice-breaking acting would not have been possible. (There he goes again. Now he's offended New Labour! Can he be implying that Tony B. isn't, well, completely genuine?) Q. How do you like living part-time in Italy? A. There are a lot of rules that are difficult to remember. For instance, it's impolite to have a hand in your lap at the table. I think it comes from the idea that a hand under the table could have a knife or a gun in it. That shocked me a little. (Aargh! Now he's suggested that the entire population of Italy have Mafia connections! Tut!) Didn't note down any more, but I remember that he said that his grandmother used to do a lot of amateur acting (this triggered his interest) and he thnks that more "ethics" should be taught in schools. There was also some stuff about SIL and Darcy. i think what he says is interesting and real. There was a comment recently by a journalist who spends a lot of time interviewing well known actors (usually accompanied by their minders and PR people) and he said he was completely nauseated by their bland, unrevealing and self-regarding answers. At least CF says what he thinks! Maybe he should have a little PR person sitting next to him. "No, Col, don't say that, you'll offend half of Britain, no, not that either, I mean , not if you want to live in Ital , etc"!!!! Today, I'm answering my emails, so please be patient with me!

(Evelyn)Bethan....Allison....answer your emails!! I just did! Thanks, Evelyn. Today's times has a feature article on the effect of seeing SIL on modern relationships. Basically, the writer claims that lots of modern relationships (what she calls "comfortable shoe relationships") cannot withstand the effect of seeing this love played out on the screen. Viola's "I will have poetry in my life" is touching raw nerves. So she gives thoughts that will enable couples to survive the experience. 1)Viola is a virgin, Will is married, so that accounts for the passion - and - 2)"the man GP is asked to marry may have many faults but underneath it all, he is still Colin Firth"! Good to see that he is still talked of in reverential terms! The Daily Mail today announced that CF will be joining EM and DM in 3DOR. Showed it to my husband as I broke the news of our planned theatre trip. He laughed (Yes!!) and said "Oh Lord, we had better get you some valium"! Not a bad idea. That or beta blockers.

Now he's offended New Labour! Can he be implying that Tony B. isn't, well, completely genuine?) I have been wondering about his poitics though I don't get the feeling that he is a very political animal. The Firths are quite possibly Liberal Democrats. Winchester is a hotbed of LDism and I think it would fit in with what I think of as CF's liberal non doctrinaire politics. I am sure he would be much more liberal than TB!

Just been to What's on Stage website www.whatsonstage.com/ and it is advertising CF in Three Days of Rain, apparently it is the first time he has been on stage in 5 years, unfortunately it lists his filmography as Sense & Sensibility, pleeese!!, FP & SIL. Still it is good to see it is being advertised. Arami I agree with your comments re CF particularly that despite the fact that he was shocked that someone new his date of birth etc, he was still willing to disclose that he likes cooking, that the kitc en ends up a mess and what his favourit room is, Its strange because personally these things don't interest me, but I am interested in knowing what he is doing next because I just love to see him act .

Bethan, thanks again for more questions & answers. I�m hopeless, the more foolish quotes I read from him the more I like him (and I�m using the word foolish with every possible tenderness, Colin (!!)). I wish he�ll always stay that way, talking so spontaneously. Arami, for the first time here at Drool I feel like writing here: LOL. (I�m such a serious peson!) Your cynicism is great and probably hits the spot. Col�s cunning strategy revealed! Furthermore, he likes to refer to the Internet and the things about him in it as something that OTHER people have told him about (in an older interview he said: �I�m told that there�s a Fans of Firth site in the web�). But who knows, he could be here right this minute and know exactly what�s going on and what�s the content of all the sites. I would if I were him, out of vanity and also because I would be a little troubled about the fact that the Internet lives its own life that�s seemingly out of his cont ol unlike other publicity.

Q. How do you like living part-time in Italy? A. There are a lot of rules that are difficult to remember. For instance, it's impolite to have a hand in your lap at the table. I think it comes from the idea that a hand under the table could have a knife or a gun in it. That shocked me a little. This is very true, and my husband can't understand why Americans do it. His explanation is that you never know what a person might be doing with the other hand such as touching oneself. Thanks for posting more of the interview Bethan. I did like the "feminine side question", which he didn't seem to answer for himself, did he? Arami, you have a v. good point, but is ODB so cleverly wicked?

I have an extra hardcopy of the PEOPLE article which I shall be glad to send to anyone who sends me her/his postal address. Better get it...it'll might be a long time till we see such a beautiful one.

I have an extra hardcopy of the PEOPLE article Evelyn, please! I have E-mailed you.

Ooh, this debate is turning into an exquisite one!How can one man's 3 or 4 sentences trigger such subtle turns of fine minds? ;-) Firth, let me thank the ladies who took the trouble to post the interview/article. Second, bare with me if this is a long post... (Lizza)not being able to go out "for a bog roll" What is a bog roll? (SusanMC)Ben Affleck as being "so vain that he actually chats with female fans in the chat room of his unofficial web site." And I thought, what's vain about that? I think it was a very generous and appreciative gesture. Would that we could get Colin to do that! (Lizza)I don't know if I would actually like it if our DB was actually joining us online!! I prefer our discussions to be uninhibited and relaxed, imagine all the mistakes in postings we would make with quivering fingers!!! (Elena)who knows, he could be here right this minute and know exactly what�s going on and what�s the content of all the sites. I would if I were him I certainly would too, not so much from vanity (I think) but for the main reason I come here, which is exactly what I stated at the beginning of this post: that a man's comments (gestures, appearance, acting)can be the origin of so much intelectual activity! And if some of that activity is a little less than intelectual ;-)so what, I think an educated man who has lived in the world would take it for what it's worth...and laugh with us! (Colin) There are a lot of rules that are difficult to remember. For instance, it's impolite to have a hand in your lap at the table. I think it comes from the idea that a hand under the table could have a knife or a gun in it. That shocked me a little. Are the English rules of etiquette different? I thought only Americans had escaped the French influence ;-) (KJArt)He "disappears" into his characters. I saw a film the other day, with a young Anthony Hopkins, and found him as usual, being himself, with the same inflections and mannerisms. I have long ceased to consider him a great actor for this reason, and I appreciate Colin more and more in contrast with such actors. (Arami)one could easily interpret the casually made comment as a clever way of innocently, almost inadvertently,pointing all interested parties directly to the very place where the buzz is at its most intense... Make no mistake: our man is clever enough Oh Arani, thou art Macchiavelli reincarnate!:-)Clever, clever thought. I loved it. May it be so, and my respect for him will grow in proportion to the cunning. (AnnW)personally these things don't interest me, but I am interested in knowing what he is doing next because I just love to see him act. Let me echo your feelings. Bethan, are those comments in brackets yours or the magazine's?

I'm sorry, of course I meant Arami

I have to agree that Colin secretly likes the publicity and the attention that is given to him. There is alot of information on him out there and it could only have come from him. The only thing that seems to be somewhat off limits is Will and even there we know quite a bit. LOL about the hand under the table. My parents are German and we also never put our hands in our lap at the table. I also use utensils differently from Americans. My husband thinks it is bad manners to push food onto your fork with a knife, but I always have the last laugh when he eats peas.

Interesting bits from today's Evening Standard: - pictures of SIL premiere. All taken at after show party, so no CF (I am sure he was not there) - an aticle on Elizabeth McGovern, says she is about to take a part opposite CF at the Dolmar. She seems like a nice lady. Married to Simon Curtis of the BBC (why is that name ringing a loud bell). Two children, gave up earlier glowing Hollywood career. Now apparently domestic mum-style person. - article on Crispin Bonham-Carter(remember him?) who is directing a play at the Etcetera Theatre which is above the Oxford Arms in Camden Town. I go past there all the time, never knew there was a theatre there but there are theatres above half the theatres in this part of London:-)

theatres above half the theatres in this part of London:-) How fascinating! That should read ...above half the pubs....

(Bethan) I don't find his interviews particularly confusing! No, I didn't say you or anyone of us would. I meant the reporters. For example, I have noticed how the woman interviewing him for A&E missed or ignored one or two jests and hints, which to me seemed a clear invitation to explore a particular subject further. (In particular, how and why playing Shakespeare eluded him; and how he enjoyed exploring comedy in straight situations.) (Elena who knows, he could be here right this minute... I would if I were him, out of vanity and also because I would be a little troubled about the fact that the Internet lives its own life that�s seemingly out of his control unlike other publicity. There is a very simple reason why he could be (occasionally) tempted to lurk amongst us (either in person, or through his assistants/publicity agents): these are the only conversations of ardent fans which are freely accessible to all, including the subject himself. I think he's a very inquisitive chap. He still admits to being amazed by the impact of his portrayal of Darcy; he keeps asking "What did I do right?" Well, all the answers are here - no holds barred: wouldn't you want to know them, if you were him? (Moon Dreams) is ODB so cleverly wicked? No - just wickedly clever. :-) (Patas) What is a bog roll? Toilet paper. Colin was moaning he couldn't go shopping like an ordinary person, because the press was harassing him. (Gi) my respect for him will grow in proportion to the cunning. Ditto here. (Sue) ...Colin secretly likes the publicity and the attention that is given to him. Not secretly: he admits to it quite openly, almost in the same breath as moaning about the loss of privacy. Disarmingly human and endearing, I say.

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Just WHAT am I reading here. I never knew you couldn�t put your hands in your lap at the table in Italy and Germany, good to know! We do it practically all the time in Finland, in fact it is more than appropriate. .....About Donmar, does anybody have any clue why he�s in a play in that particular theatre of all theatres? Have any of you ever seen a play there? ......And about my dear husband. He has started to get annoyed because I�m spending so much time in the Internet. Also, he doesn�t get it why I�m planning to go to London in March to see an unknown play by unknown actors in some theatre that nobody�s ever heard of (!). I �ve asked him to come along but he refuses, jealously. I wonder how you others have managed to explain the reason of this trip to your husbands and boyfriends.

.....About Donmar, does anybody have any clue why he�s in a play in that particular theatre of all theatres? Have any of you ever seen a play there? Elena, it is very highly regarded. I am not sure if it comes into the category of West End (i.e.Broadway) or Off West End but I really do not think that matters. Sam Mendes is the artistic director, I think that is his title and he has a reputation for getting good names to his theatre. Nicole Kidman has just finished a run there. Yes, I have been there several times. It is one of the theatres in London where you can be sure of a good theatrical experience. A totally appropriate place for Colin to b . On the question of the problem of getting big American names onto the stage in London, Peter Hall has an article in this weeks Spectator magazine in which he describes his battles to get big names to appear on the stage. He says that most of those he approaches would like to appear but they are tied by their committments to future projects and are always waiting for films to be greenlighted and have to keep themselves available for that. Interesting.

(Evelyn)I have an extra hardcopy of the PEOPLE article (Allison) Evelyn, please! I have E-mailed you. I know, I know...I sent yours today. But I have yet ANOTHER ONE. Gi...Sabine....Kirsten...Uk lurkers....anybody want an extra Colin Firth PEOPLE? Speak now....email me.

--I have an extra I can donate, too...

I HAVE GOT TICKETS for 3DOR !!!! THANKS TO ANN AND EVELYN !!!!!! I am so exited, I will be flying to London on March 5., stay for 3 days and have got tickets for the Saturday 4 and 8 o clock play ! Will someone be there at the 6., too ?? I really would like to met you ! Thank you for the video Evelyn ! I hope and think CF will be very happy that so many fans will fly to London just to see him act. Evelyn, I will try to get the PEOPLE Magazin in germany, thank you for the offer :-)

It sounds like the entire world in converging on that theatre in London to see DB Live and Direct. Someone take a group snap and post it with who's who attached. I am so envious! But a 20 hour flight each way is not my idea of a good thing just to see a play (plus a few thousand dollars!) Even with *him* in it!

If anyone has a spare copy of People with Colin and would like to donate it to a computerless Colinist or two, please let me know and I'll arrange for the addresses to be emailed to you.

an aticle on Elizabeth McGovern, says she is about to take a part opposite CF at the Dolmar. She seems like a nice lady.Married to Simon Curtis of the BBC (why is that name ringing a loud bell). Two children, gave up earlier glowing Hollywood career. Now apparently domestic mum-style person. (Allison) Seems as though there's starting to be a build up towards the opening of 3DOR. I remember sseing EMc in some of her earlier films and was impressed, and I also seem to remember reading that (unlike Nicole Kidman,Juliette Binoche etc) she's had a lot of experience in NY theatre. Simon Curtis...yes, familiar, or am I thinking of Richard Curtis (wrote 4 Weddings) but they are tied by their committments to future projects and are always waiting for films to be greenlighted and have to keep themselves available for that. Interesting. Yes, I'm sure this has been the case with CF.... Perhaps this is why he's squeezing in a short theatre run. I hope and think CF will be very happy that so many fans will fly to London just to see him act. (Sabine) I'm sure he'll be delighted. He's said that all he wants is for people to say "Colin Firth, he's a good actor", and by making such an effort to see him , that's what you are saying. Actions speak louder than words!

Donmar: It's known as a major "fringe" - i.e. not mainstream - theatre. Fringe theatres specialize in small scale contemporary and experimental plays. Situated close to the West End (Covent Garden), in a building which, if I remember correctly, was originally just that: a commercial warehouse belonging to a Mr Donmar... Modern concept and small capacity: the auditorium sits about 200 surrounding the stage area on three sides in three blocks of four rows. Cosy: actors may have to cross the auditorium to get to the stage, and if anyone is lucky to have a seat in the front row, prepare yourself for an unforgettable experience of having Colin act practicall in your lap... ;-)

Think of the self-control this is going to require of "our" attendees! No audible drooling, suppressing the urge to reach out and touch...Oh My!!!

( Sabine) have got tickets for the Saturday 4 and 8 o clock play ! Will someone be there at the 6., too ?? I really would like to met you ! Yup...me and a lot of others from Drool...for both performances. We'll keep in touch. Dinner together would be fun. ****** Donmar Theatre :Cosy: actors may have to cross the auditorium to get to the stage, and if anyone is lucky to have a seat in the front row, prepare yourself for an unforgettable experience of having Colin act practically in your lap... ;-) That's Ann and Lizza. We'll be in Row D....the better to look into his eyes. Four weeks from tomorrow. ***** Oscar Noms due out on Tuesday...during breakfast television. I'll post as soon as they're announced. ****** Wanna see Colin in "Vanity Fair"? Tell em: vfmail@vf.com Don't underestimate the power of email.

Can you remind me who is going on Friday 5th and Saturday 13th (8pm) - I'd like to recommend to you a computerless Firthfan who is planning to get equipped and connect to the net in the near future; she'd love to meet you all. Please repost here and I'll arrange to contact you privately. Thanks.

The Donmar is tiny (250 seats?). It was originally opened by the RSC in the mid-70s as their "Other Place" in London. (The theatre of the same name in Stratford is their second theatre there. My luvvie background amounts to having been in a couple of plays there when I was a nipper.) Mendes took it over in the early 90s, and has had lots of critical hits there. One of the best things of his I saw was a production of The Glass Menagerie. Fantastic. I am trying to get hold of his (SM's) email address, by th way. Also, there is a rather fun restaurant opposite called Belgo's (it's Belgian). Healthy portions and biere blonde. And, for the fashionable amongst you, there are some ruinously expensive but frightfully trendy clothes shops in Neal Street, round the corner. The area used to be pleasantly seedy - in the days when Covent Garden really was a market - but now its all scented candles and massive shoes. Shame. BTW, I am mystified by the hands-on-lap rule. It's quite the opposite in England, I've always thought. Well, at any rate, to eat with your forearms resting on the table is quite out of the question. My ancient grandmother told me about a terrifying governess who, if she saw young Betty's elbows on the table would come scurrying round, pick them up and thump them down hard on said table. What a cow. Anyway, the effect was that my elbows never got within yards of my grandmother's table.

I am so relieved to see we're already off the topic of DB's views of the Internet. I was afraid there might be mass self-flagellation but we seem to be handling it with great good humor....as always. Gi and KJART, you talked about the friend who didn't know it was Colin as Wessex until she left the theatre... Makes me wonder how many people who saw SiL and who don't really know Colin Firth were even able to connect him to his character after seeing the People article. He looks quite different. Rita and anyone else having trouble with the download time here. The February 7, 2036 date screws everything up unless you use the "New" responses option found on the entry page (the one with the Tumbledown picture). Since "new" is working rather well right now, click on it there and it will bring up all the topics. Once you click on the topic you want to access, it will bring up the new responses since you last logged in. If you want to see earlier responses, just enter a response number in the "Redis lay" box at the bottom. For instance, this is response #930. If you enter 900 in the "redisplay" box, it will go back to that response and all subsequent postings. Have I thoroughly confused you? Go to nomdedrool@yahoo.com if you need further clarification. Arami and anyone else wondering who is going to the Saturday, March 6 performance... right now I know of myself, Karen, Evelyn, Jana, AnnW, Elena, Emma, Lizza, and Sabine. How about the rest of you? Ben, dear, why don't you come along? Your, ahem, connections may come in handy. Oops, never mind...can't appear too eager. I too have an extra of People and would be happy to send to a friend in need. I'm sure the favor can be repaid if there is a big write-up in one of the UK magazines.

US Alert. In case anyone is interested apparently Valmont ant ATA are coming on cable this month Encore? according to someone at Virtual Views, can't remember the exact details. Arami, that is me in the first row and my seat is no 27 by the aisle where apparently the actors run on to the stage oh my I am sure to have a hot flush and it a good thing I have my husband with me to hold me back and not make a fool of myself. I am all of a flutter as Mrs. Bennett would say.

Bethan, did you get to see SIL last night?

US Alert. In case anyone is interested apparently Valmont ant ATA are coming on cable this month Encore? according to someone at Virtual Views, can't remember the exact details. Arami, that is me in the first row and my seat is no 27 by the aisle where apparently the actors run on to the stage oh my I am sure to have a hot flush and it a good thing I have my husband with me to hold me back and not make a fool of myself. I am all of a flutter as Mrs. Bennett would say.

I have just posted a snippet about BJD on #80 but it has not shown up as "new". I would hate you to miss it. I think you may find it interesting!

SIL...Yes! And I really enjoyed it (and I'm a horribly critical person and slightly resistant to hype!). I thought it was an excellent ensemble piece, and CF, as ever, turns in a first-rate performance. He really is a chameleon actor, capable of tackling amost anything, I would say. And his voice, mmmmm!!! Husband also, remarkably, enjoyed it. His taste veers exclusively to politics/current affairs/documentaries. Sat through it without looking at his watch once, sighing or yawning!! This is on a par with a star studded recommendation from Barry Norman.!! :-) I emailed the BBC about the possibility of adapting the 3DOR performance for television (with the same cast of course). Reply received: Thank you for your comments and suggestions which I shall forward to the drama department. Pretty standard response perhaps. But the BBC have put on at least two of the Donmar's productions..."Company" was one, the other slips my memory, retaining the original cast. Who is the current Head of Drama for the BBC? It used to be Micahael Wearing who co-produced P&P, Nostromo and The Advocate, and Our Mutual Friend. But I think he retired recently...unfortunately. Some more emails could prompt serious action! Email address is info@bbc.co.uk

Allison, Your snippet of news about BJD at #80......apart from a confirmation that CF is playing MD, I think this is the best news we can get! And I am now even more confident that he will play MD! Ben, Evelyn, there's an article abot JE's new film "This Year's Love" in the Times. It focuses mainly on the lead actor Dougie Henshall, and has a photo of JE in dreadlocks, looking very pretty, with DH . Article then commits CF-type omission by failing to mention JE in the cast list. Has no-one at the Times watched P&P?! :-)

Who is the current Head of Drama for the BBC? Is it Simon Curtis? Husband of EMcG. That is just a guess but I know that Simon Curtis is famous for something dramatic at the Beeb.

(Bethan)..apart from a confirmation that CF is playing MD, I think this is the best news we can get! And I am now even more confident that he will play MD! I know I am being lazy and not looking things up for myself (we have friends coming to dinner and I haven't done the shopping yet!) But didn't Colin say something in You or People about "staying with him a while longer" in respnse to a question about whether he had put Darcy behind him?

I'M GOING TO LONDON FOR 3DoR! :-)))))))))) My fiance is coming too, he says he'll take the excuse for a London week-end with me. I think he's also curious about CF and about my Internet friends. So we'll meet you on March 6 and going out to dinner seems a lovely idea!

What a lovely party you will all have in London. I'll be thinking of you. Ben, "elbows should not be placed on the table", is also a very strict rule in Italy.

Anyone going on Friday 5th? Saturday 13th? "Hands (not) in the lap" and "Elbows (not) on the table" are two rather different rules of table manners, BTW.

Gi, you have a wonderful fiance. Wish I could say the same about the man I have chosen to live with (at the moment I�m quite put out by his wry attitude to my London plans. But he does have his wonderful moments, I recall)

(Arami), "Hands (not) in the lap" and "Elbows (not) on the table" are two rather different rules of table manners, BTW. Quite right my dear, knowing rather different rules of table manners does make one rather worldly.

Arami, that is an intriguing idea of yours, our DB as a lap dancer or should that be lap actor?!!! I have tried to Email you with no luck! BELGO, re Ben's idea of a meal in the nearby restaurant on March 6th I have just had a call from a friend who went to the Belgo that has just opened here, last night , to recommend it re food and atmosphere. Menu sounds good but I am not sure how it would be for any vegetarians. I can find out if needed.

I see the italics monster is back. One last comment for the publicity debate: I think Colin said it best in People, which I'll paraphrase here--he likes attention because every actor needs to be adored, but he wouldn't want everyone in a restaurant to recognize him. That's where his boundary is. As for our collective self-flagellation: looks like we all participated over the past several days, but never once did we think about abandoning this board or our DB! Even Moon is back! Thanks for decoding 'bog roll,' Arami. I see one of the side benefits of this board as a lesson in international relations (for lack of a better term--perhaps customs?). I was LOL about Colin's response to the living in Italy question. He has such a wry sense of humor. I was also unaware of the hand-in-lap rule. BTW, if you can't put your hand in your lap or put your elbow on the table (the latter being an American rule as well; Ben, your grandmother and my father employed similar corrective actions) then where do you put it? If you're not using a knife, do you wave your free hand over your head? :-) I was in Germany, Italy and Switzerland this past summer and must have offended many countrymen. Marcia, don't fret about not being able to fly to London. Many of us can't make the field trip either. Rest assured, those who are attending have promised to report every single detail.

Gosh, I'm so incredibly thrilled for all who'll be attending 3DOR! Looking forward to receiving those "dispatches from the front lines." Please do take a commemorative group photo -- would love to see through whom I'll be living vicariously that weekend! Has anyone ever seen "Racing With the Moon" -- wonderful film from the early 80's starring Eliz. McGovern, Sean Penn and Nicolas Cage, very early in their careers. I belive EM and SP were briefly engaged -- luckily she came to her senses! Evelyn, will you be attending Jennifer's new film whilst in London?

WOW..one can hardly sleep around here...so many postings just overnight! Heide; I think it says a lot about having a level-headed host that we took the interview when Colin mentioned the "I" word in stride. One big laugh... He would want it that way. ***** Great about Gi and fiancee going. Want to meet him.Your PEOPLE is going out today, Gi. **** Belgo restaurant sounds good to me...we should reserve. Lizza -in-the-first-row, contact our fearless leader Heide.Thanks Ben for the tip. ***** (Ben)My luvvie background amounts to having been in a couple of plays there when I was a nipper. Ben, your CV gets more interesting by the minute.....which play? and please translate nipper **** Going to the Times right now...I hope someone sends me the hardcopy esp. with Jennifer's pic. Pox on them for not listing her...but "a picture is worth..." This Year's Love is getting great publicity...heralded as "best Brit romantic comedy of the year..." Just got a distributor last week.. the Good Machine International co.....(doesn't that sound like something out of the Simpson's...but we'll take it if it means it will be shown in the US.) Yes, Susan, I do plan to see her film while in London. *** Bethan I will email BBC today.And how about asking them for info on Donovan Quick (can we just call that now..."DQ"?) ** Sorry for lengthy post

PS Forgot to mention... Gwynnie will host "Saturday Night Live " tonight. She's bound to say something humorous about SIL. The publicity seems to go on and on...... IMDB voted it the Outstanding Film of the Year.

Hello all. Oh good God, the thought of a CF lap dance has short-circuited my brain! Someone must log a BJD -esque account of the 3 DOR trip for us less fortunate Firthophiles who remain at home. This will be our only consolation for misssing the play, dinner, etc. I am still giddy over my first viewing of Valmont this morning, which I taped off the Encore channel. Wow! What an elegant production. CF's performance as Valmont makes John Malkevich's(sp?) portrayal look like a cartoon character (Snidely Whiplash, perhaps?). Now I must go back and reread Cheryl E's inside scoop on MF..... Our DB's acting ability continues to amaze me.....

(Lizza) I have tried to Email you with no luck! No wonder: there's no email address to my name here. Do you still wish to make contact? :-) (Eileen G) He has such a wry sense of humor. I have watched snippets of various interviews with Colin made during the recent SIL publicity drive on the American TV (there was none of that on the British TV, btw), and he kept quipping time after time - most of it went straight over the interviewer's head... made me wanna howl!

(SusanMC)Looking forward to receiving those "dispatches from the front lines." Please do take a commemorative group photo (LisaJH)Someone must log a BJD -esque account of the 3 DOR trip for us less fortunate Firthophiles who remain at home. I guess we could each give her own view, that would be at least ten reports in different styles! (EileenG)BTW, if you can't put your hand in your lap or put your elbow on the table then where do you put it? You are allowed to rest your wrists on the table :-)

Elena, tell your husband other men are going and it really is a meeting of friends, maybe he'll like it better if he sees it this way!

(Evelyn) But I have yet ANOTHER ONE. Gi...Sabine....Kirsten...Uk lurkers....anybody want an extra Colin Firth PEOPLE? Thanks for thinking of me, Evelyn, but we have some decent bookstore around here which do supply us properly. Dear me, you're really too busy for me to be able to catch up for the moment, but I'll try my best to come back soon, at least to #98.

The screenplay of "3 Days of Rain" is on the broadway play page, where you can order it: http://www.BroadwayPlayPubl.com/scr2.htm It is included in the volume: "PLAYS FROM SOUTH COAST REPERTORY", VOLUME TWO I S B N 0-88145-142-2: $14.95

Did I ever post this link (SIL premiere pics) here? http://firth.com/prempic/annprem.htm

Drs.Moon and Arami, strictly, as a matter of anatomy, you are right - wrists are not elbows. (And laps are not seats, I might add.) HOWEVER - even the continental habit of resting one's wrists on the table while eating is frowned on by some. And laps are a perfectly good place for (one's own) hands. (But no-one else's seat.) Yours etc., BB

(Ben) And laps are a perfectly good place for (one's own) hands. (But no-one else's seat.) LOL, Ben. I better stick with left hand on lap. Doubt if I ever go back to Italy anyway.

Way, way back, Simon Curtis.....yes, I do believe he's Head of Drama at the BBC, and Elizabeth McG's husband. Should boost the chances of a BBC adaptation of 3DOR, although could provoke charges of nepotism...or uxoriousness! I'm too lazy to nip across to #80. Just heard a snippet on the radio about the Andrew Davies-Helen Fielding collaboration on the screenplay for BJD. General consensus is that the script should be a "cracker", possibly the best of 1999. Here's hoping!

Dear Ben, If only you could demonstrate it to me, I'm sure I'd find it all easier to comprehend... ;-)

Oh dear oh dear, we all may have forgiven Colin for his rather thoughtless and tactless remarks about the interenet but it seems as if he has really offended Ellen (Ellen's FAQ's) as she is withdrawing the page and writing to Colin to see if he has been mis-quoted. I must say I do have a little sympathy for her as she has put in a tremendous amount of work in the publication of the FAQ and after all it is meant as a tribute to a wonderful actor not an infringement on his privacy. Such a shame as it was ne of the best and most comprehensive FAQ's I have seen for any celebrity.

Arami, would still like to make contact. Ann, sorry to hear of Ellen's reaction, was FAQ not the first CF page to start up? It seems to have a bit of a parallel with the "Rules" that I have read for hosts of conferences and postings. We all have to be careful not to "offend" others in a conference, because we can't see each other and different nuances etc that we would pick up in spoken conversations or ironies etc are easier to misconstrue. Obviously WE manage this very well as we are all so erudite, discerning etc but it COULD happen. Reading a second or third hand account of CF's views in a publication is the same and something that apppears to have given huge offence may not have been intended in that context. I am reminded of the occasion quite some months ago when someone posted critical views of CF and made some disparaging remarks about the names we post under, Heide or Evelyn with support from Moon and Winter sent them packing in no uncertain terms. Glorious to behold!!!

I really am puzzled by the over-reaction to CF's "alleged" comments in a tabloid supplement. Has he been accurately quoted? We don't know. And what has the poor bloke actually said? I don't think he was tactless. He was probably interviewed over the phone whilst he was chewing on his cornflakes, and was asked a series of brief questions, all on completely different topics, so there's no follow-up to any response. He's asked, specifically, "what's the downside of fame", so , very obligingly he comes up with an example ....people seem to know too much about him. He's not thumping on a soapbox, shouting that he hates this. If someone asked you what is the downside of your job, marriage, relationship etc, you could be blissfully happy, but you would be able to find at least one example! And he doesn't say he hates the Internet, or the excellent websites dedicated mainly to his professional life and work. He also made comments that "could" have offended New Labour or the Italian community, if they chose to be absolutely devoid of humour!! I dunno...I really give up on this one. His best bet is to say nuffing...and then everyone will say he's aloof, unfriendly , spoilt by fame. It's a no-win situation!!! But i thought Ellen's FAQ was excellent, and I'd love to see it updated, not withdrawn. I watched his A&E interview for the first time, and was struck by the fact that once he's got over his initial nervousness (and twitchiness!), he's capable of giving a fully rounded, carefully considered, intelligent response, far beyond the requirements of the actual interview. His thoughts on "what is period" and the relationship between "now" and "history" would not have been out of place in a university seminar. Short soundbites are never the best medium of communication. But someone should have told him to sit on his hands (or keep them in his lap!):-)

I must say I�m pretty shocked by Ellen�s strong reaction and wish from the bottom of my heart that she would be able to forgive him. And what is there to forgive anyway, it was not an interview to be taken too seriously, look at all the other funny answers for heaven�s sake. Those answers were all very quick and circumstantial, not something that he has thought in depth. Like I�ve said before, I do believe he was accurately quoted, he just did not have time to think properly. Bethan, I think you put it so well: if someone asked you what is the downside of your job, marriage, relationship etc, you could be blissfully happy, but you would be able to find at least one example! Exactly, and that one example is NOT the whole story. AND like I�ve said before, I like his lovely spontaneity like nothing else. I�d just hate to think him becoming wary of everything he says to the press.

To think of it, maybe we should invite him too to dine with us in March at Belgo, just to show him what lovable and harmless people his Internet fans are :-)))

Elena, you just wish! :-)

(bethan), But i thought Ellen's FAQ was excellent, and I'd love to see it updated, not withdrawn. My sentiments exactly! If you are reading this Ellen, you're work is very much appreciated and I hope to see it again soon. I think what you're doing is right and will be most curious to know the outcome. In boca al lupo!

(Gi) Elena, you just wish! Yes, it�s beginning to look like his internet fans are the last people he would care to dine with :-)) I hope I�m not offending anybody by guessing that we�re probably so touchy about his careless sayings because after all these years of adoration, we tend to wish for some sort of gratitude or love in return from him! We better face it, we won�t get it, at least not publicly. Whatever he thinks privately is unknown. The FAQ is completely decent and beneficial too for Colin as it serves quite harmless and general information for his fans, saving a lot of energy from his management and pr people. Actually I do not see why its existence would need his APPROVAL and I also very much doubt that Ellen will get an answer of any sort. I wish she could be tougher about this but of course I understand how she feels, having done such an enormous work.

Ladies, you're so right. Perhaps some of us here should take over from all those faint hearted people who seem to crave their idols' approval and gratitude. That, I'm afraid, is not the name of the game. Those of the webmasters/mistresses (yuk, I'm not keen on this description!) who are sure that their sites do not offend any normal, generally accepted rules of decency, should carry on regardless. If they can't, they patently do not understand showbusiness people. Besides, we, the fans, do not generate th information, we merely circulate it for our own pleasure, and for the benefit of our favourite actor's publicity, because we are happy for the world to know more about him. People are naturally curious - what's wrong with that? You know the saying: "Bad publicity is worse than no publicity". And Colin has never had any really bad publicity. What is the matter with those people? I give up. (Btw, Bethan, I love the way he uses his hands in conversation!)

......Ellen... writing to Colin to see if he has been mis-quoted She should call ICM and speak to a PA of the agent. Really, they are v. nice. I call on behalf of Jennifer about once a month (different agent...JE has a woman) and they are v. obliging. Hey, these people don't want mis-information out there. I am sorry about FAQ....the most comprehensive on the Internet...I wrote to Ellen and pleaded with her not to tank it. Why don't you all do so also. Not only fans make use of these websites...producers and directors do too. I understand Jane's Articles website which I consistently use for the film discussions is also going down. I can see where she's coming from. The website managers go through a great deal of trouble and expense to maintain them. I know I do.Lots of telephoning to UK postage,letter writing etc. I think I would be crushed too if Jennifer said that in print...Lord knows they all must think it. But I wouldn't take it down. Anyway...if they go down...we'rethe losers. I,m glad no one on this board defected...we're taking it in stride. **** (Lisa)Heide or Evelyn with support from Moon and Winter sent them packing in no uncertain terms.Glorious to behold!!! We don't tolerate rudeness or flaming in any form on this board...anyone who gets her/his jollies doing that sort of stuff can go somewhere else. That's why we have so many newbies and want more.....No one ever feels intimidated.

I have already mailed Ellen too. At this rate we will be the only ones left to report 3DOR!! Thanks for the tip re "whatsonstage" Ann, I was able to check out my seats for the performances.

Oh this is so sad, I am sure Colin did not mean it the way it sounded, why should he, after all the Internet has been very good publicity for 3DOR, I hope that other websites will see it as it is an off the cuff remark that really didn't mean anything. I mean Winter said how charming and pleasant he was and he seemed very pleased to have his internet fans, personally on thinking about it, and I will admit at first I was a bit peeved, I would rather believe Winter's account of him which she got from the orse's mouth so to speak than an questions & answers article reported in the newspaper. So please if there are any Webmistresses reading this, please keep your sites going, I am sure Colin really appreciates his websites and all the work involved in maintaining them. Ellen and Jane we , the fans, also appreciate your hard work and hope that in due course it will continue.

Re:vegetarians and Belgo. Belgo's is well-suited to carnivores. If you want, you can munch on wild-boar, sitting on benches in a big cavern downstairs. It feels like one of the feasts at the end of Asterix. However, for the more dainty, there is a more stylish end of the cavern, with string quartets and forget-me-nots in a glass (well, almost.) For the really squeamish, there is a famous vegetarian restaurant round the corner called "Food for Thought". This has been going for 25 years or so, and was, at least in the 70s, a real thesps' hangout. Food for thought is rather bare and uncomfortable, but vegetarians seem to like suffering so I'm sure it's perfect. It's on Neal Street. Finally, there is a smart restaurant, on the opposite side of the road, called the Neal St. restaurant. Again, I'm not sure how this is now, but a few years ago it was v. fashionable and well thought of. All these are within spitting distance of the Donmar, but radiating out from there, Longacre and Southampton St. are teeming with restaurants. Strangely, I am going to London next week! But I have to come back before the great event. Another time, I'm sure. I have been v. slow on the uptake with this questionnaire thing - I hadn't realised till now that it was composed right here. Ellen, come back! I tend to think that, if he were to meet you all, or read this site, he'd be reassured, indeed flattered. BUT, it's natural to be generally suspicious, I would have thought, of a very deep attachment formed by someone who's never met you. (The worst case is that his followers are all nuts.) Isn't it a good thing, as far as his own character is concerned, that he h s a little of this suspicion instead of thinking it only natural that everyone should love him, even if they've never met him? Anyway, have a WONDERFUL time in London, those going.

Thankyou Ben, you have made a lot of sense.

Did anyone else see Gwyneth on Sat. Night Live last night? I thought she was marvelous! (And I still have not as yet seen SiL, unfortunately.) Her opening monolog was priceless, done in her flawless English accent and pretending to be a British actress and not understanding why people think she's American... and then Ben Affleck pops up in the audience with his comment "...remember me? We used to date...then we broke up recently...it was in all the papers." Good for them -- they really tweaked the nose of the tabloids!

Isn't it a good thing, as far as his own character is concerned, that he h s a little of this suspicion instead of thinking it only natural that everyone should love him, even if they've never met him? Well said. My last word on this! No matter what Colin thinks. We know that what we are doing will not harm him and that we all have his best interests at heart. We should just "go to it"! [and I don't think he objects anyway].

My last word on this: if he really doesn't object, he should answer our questions. He's had them for two months now. As Evelyn has said, "The website managers go through a great deal of trouble and expense to maintain them". He must realize this. If he really objects, he should let Ellen know, that would be the correct thing to do. His comment was most gratuitous and ungrateful. While it is true that sometimes actors are incorrectly quoted (I am only referring to serious papers or mags.), in my experience as an interviewer, I have always made sure that all the quotes were correct. If you want to establish a relationship with an actor (for future interviews), you better get the quotes right.

I was going to leave this issue as I don't want it to get too serious...but I have to make two points. The first, I recently attended a seminar on "Information and the Internet". The Internet is a double-edged sword. It's an excellent medium for conveying straightforward factual information via responsible and well managed websites. But it does have a darker side. There are loonies and potential stalkers out there who hack into databases, electoral registers, medical records etc and publish (quite indiscr minately) confidential material ...addresses, ex-directory phone nos etc. The Data Protection Act is impossible to enforce on the Web because it's an unfettered domain. Several actors in the UK are known to have serious persistent stalker problems..there was an article in the Telegraph recently on this topic (in a general context, no names given) It can be difficult to protect them...and sometimes members of their family are also threatened. In the US "stars" tend to retreat to private estates and have b dyguards. I hope this isn't too heavy, but a wariness of the Internet may stem from other reasons. Two (turning into a real Anorak here), a quote from CF in Elle magazine (about his response to interest in him) "There is a measure of evasiveness. One newspaper story, in which I was quoted saying "I don't need a woman around" was in response to a barrage of questions about why I didn't have a girlfriend at that point" "Surely you need a woman?" I was just trying to fend that off, and it's been one of the most regularly repeated quotes ever since. I completely respect people's curiosity and I'm actually glad of it in a way. It means you've made some sort of impact. But there should be some degree of mystery about any creative process and I thnk that's the way it should stay. When you see a magician perform, it's appropriate that you should be curious how the trick is done: it's not necessarily appropriate that you should be told" He puts it very well, and politely. Also, it is possible in the UK to be a very successful actor and a very private one. Two of the actors he most admires, Paul Schofield and Ian Holm, have had careers spanning over forty years, and never give interviews. We know nothing about them. And arguably the more anonymous an actor remains, the more credibly he can assume different roles. I should think that CF just wants to be a jobbing actor par excellence. Positively my last word! (BUT he does need a source of factual professional information on the Web)

Moon, I see that we have something in common! You know, it happens during interviews that a person says (because of a hurry, thoughtlessness, ignorance etc.) something that you understand to be harmful for him/her if you (as an interviewer) put it in the paper just like that. Depends very much on the situation and your own moral whether you just do it or make some further questions to help him elaborate his message a bit. Even the smartest people are able to say big stupidities in unfavourable interview circumstances, of course. It�s also possible that Colin doesn�t belong to those insecure people who want to check every word in their interviews before they�re printed.

So many voices of reason here. Too many to cite; however, I agree with the view that this comment has been blown way out of proportion to its significance. Also, why would anyone take anything a tabloid publication printed seriously? If that were the case, I should be on the lookout for aliens in my backyard or at least a half cow, half human baby living down the street. Am looking forward to 3DOR and have no intention of letting this little comment taken out of context ruin what should be a fabulous time to meet so many of you and see Firth in the Flesh! "Nobody, but nobody is going rain on my parade!!" (Sorry, Barbra...) I too am sorry that some webmistresses have chosen to fold up their sites. We shall miss them dearly and perhaps you can get them to change their minds. However, they will do whatever their respective consciences tell them to do and and, unless someone else is willing to pick up the baton, that information may be lost. Colin's sites are classy and something no one should be ashamed or afraid to maintain.

(Bethan) The Internet is a double-edged sword Two faces of the net, not about CF, but related. When I heard the news of "3 Days Of Rain" I did a brief search for Elisabeth McGovern. Only links I got were sites which promised nude pics of her. I did not check further if these were a kind of fan sites or commercial sites because I don't want to give those pages hits. But surely it was an encounter with the not so pretty sides of the net. And if she knows about it her opinion of the internet may be not the best. Then today I found a very interesting article about her on the thisislondon page (brief CF mention only). With her view on her career she and CF must get along *very* well. http://www.thisislondon.com/dynamic/hottx/theatre/top_direct.html

...Colin from Elle via Bethan..." But there should be some degree of mystery about any creative process and I thnk that's the way it should stay. I told you that's what JE says when they ask her about boyfriends.... "personal information hinders the credibility of the role one is trying to portray" **** Colin doesn�t belong to those insecure people who want to check every word in their interviews before they�re printed. Well, he should....but sadly, I don't think they often have that option. Sometimes,TV interviewers will give them a list of questions beforehand...but not always. **** I hated missing Gynnie last night....slept through it.How clever of BA and GP to deflect all future news for the tabs...shows maturity and a sense of humor.. ***** Let's just tell all the web managers that we need them desperately.

Because it takes about 9-12 minutes to download all the posts since February 2036, I only have enough patience to post once a week... anyway... From CF's reaction last December, he didn't strike me as someone singling out his Internet fans as the "loonies" among the lot. In fact, his reaction when I mentioned us was more of positive interest-- eyes lighting up, etc... He's a sensible bloke, and I'm sure he's sensible enough to know that whomever accosted him with a barrage of his personal trivia went too far. No one goes out blaming the Yellow Pages, the phone company, county birth records for making information accesible to the public... the re l culprits are those who take this info. to stalker-size proportions. Chin up, friends-- he knows we're not that type. Belgo's is well-suited to carnivores. If you want, you can munch on wild-boar, sitting on benches in a big cavern downstairs. Tell me, do the waiters ever stop in mid-service to compete in a joust? ;-) Very very very jealous of you all to be going to London... though I'm still happy for you to have found such a great deal. Aside from scheduling conflicts, I can't seem to take advantage of these cheap fares to LHR because the rates for hotels are still very high. Hostels are also out of the question as they have curfews, and who wants to go to London on a weekend and be on curfew?

Thank you Renate for the This is London link.... good article on Elizabeth McGovern (can we name her EMc).. And also an article on Mr. Bingley who is about to direct a play... with the interviewers comment.... ....it must be pretty galling to be cast opposite Colin Firth, one of the most fancied man in Britain.

To the Drool Damen in the UK, thank you for clearing up the mystery about a "bog roll." I was among the clueless, and was trying to figure out its meaning. I came up with four remote possibilities: 1. A new form of sushi (the British version of the California Roll) 2. An illicit outdoor "tumble" (in Scotland, perhaps) 3. Yet another name for a cannabis cigarette 4. A decadent cream-filled cake (I have seen too many re-runs of the "Two Fat Ladies") Along the lines of this theme of "two countries divided by a common language," it is my understanding that what we Yanks call "garbage", you Brits call "truck," and what we call a "truck", you call a "lorry." So does this mean then what we call a "garbage truck" you call a "truck lorry?" ;-) A former colleague of mine (an ex-pat Brit living in the suburbs of Chicago) told me that the British word for "turf" is "sod" in the States, and that "sod" has a far cruder meaning in the UK. Needless to say, she was quite taken aback to see signs for "sod farms" in her new country. She thought they were brothels. ;-) And then there is the "bum bag" which we Americans call a "fanny pack." Only recently did I find out that a "fanny" is another term for a female body part opposite the "bum." Oh the trouble one can get into�..;-) Now that I have veered off topic again, let me close by saying that I am also saddened by the dismantling of Ellen�s FAQ. Her FAQ is first rate and a class act. I also feel the same way about Drool. IMO, the fact that fanfic has been limited to fictional charachters says a lot about respecting the personal boundaries of CF and others. Ben , I believe, coined the phrase "respectful lust" (for JE), with the operative word being "respectful"�..

Good to have around...Dame Winter....moreover you are the **only** one who has ever met him and even owned up to being an Internet fan. I can't seem to take advantage of these cheap fares to LHR because the rates for hotels are still very high Oh Winter...contact Heide....we're staying at a B&B nr. Russell Sq. Walking distance to Donmar. V. reasonable. Contact Heide.Internet fares are still available.

Three points: I don't think anyone has any right to expect someone well known (a "celebrity", for the lack of a better description) to reply to some kind of questions from people he doesn't know, for the purpose he is not sure about. Colin has thousands of fans all over the world. Not all of them are represented here. Most of them probably don't even know or care about the Internet activities. Quite bluntly, if some fans and website administrators are quitting, that's because deep in their heart they want to drop Colin Firth, and probably have been looking for an excuse. This is an ideal opportunity for the fainthearted and those who have lost their interest and faith in him, mainly because the Darcy thing is now some distance behind us all, and not everyone feels they care for the real actor behind the mask, so to speak. This is no big deal, because those of us who will stay, are the real, sta nch fans, and that's what counts. We will carry on. (Applause)... ;-D I MEAN IT, COLIN!!!

Lisa, "truck" in England is "rubbish", I 've never heard it called "truck" ever before. What about "pants" that has different meaning either side of the Atlantic too Anyway we all use the same language to wax lyrical about CF. (whoops a late night corny one there- sorry!!)

BTW Can you still hear the ovation Arami? Well said and perfectly expressed.

Arami, you go girl. Lisa, some vehicular translations: Truck = lorry Garbage = rubbish Hood = bonnet Trunk = boot Windshield = windscreen Gas = petrol and some slang translations: Cigarette = fag Fag = *&*^&87! Fanny = bum *!!?&?%^= fanny Life as an ex-pat is hazardous.

Three points: I don't think anyone has any right to expect someone well known (a "celebrity", for the lack of a better description) to reply to some kind of questions from people he doesn't know, for the purpose he is not sure about. Colin has thousands of fans all over the world. Not all of them are represented here. Most of them probably don't even know or care about the Internet activities. Quite bluntly, if some fans and website administrators are quitting, that's because deep in their heart they want to drop Colin Firth, and probably have been looking for an excuse. This is an ideal opportunity for the fainthearted and those who have lost their interest and faith in him, mainly because the Darcy thing is now some distance behind us all, and not everyone feels they care for the real actor behind the mask, so to speak. This is no big deal, because those of us who will stay, are the real, sta nch fans, and that's what counts. We will carry on. (Applause)... ;-D I MEAN IT, COLIN!!!

Ooops... seems I've jammed... Seriously, there's a fault with this software: it reposts automatically when you hit refresh!!! Sorry! (But this time it's really worth repeating... ;-p)

From CF's reaction last December, he didn't strike me as someone singling out his Internet fans as the "loonies" among the lot.In fact, his reaction when I mentioned us was more of positive interest-- eyes lighting up, etc... He's a sensible bloke, and I'm sure he's sensible enough to know that whomever accosted him with a barrage of his personal trivia went too far.(Winter) From the gal who mentioned "The Internet" and lived to tell the tale. Well said, Winter! And Arami, yes...go to it!. And, seriously, (yet again!) all that we can really expect from him is that he carries on choosing and appearing in projects which give us pleasure.

Since it was posted twice, let me respond by saying I agree with Arami's points #1 and #2 but reserve judgment on #3. I can't second guess anyone's reason for taking down her web page. I agree you don't have to be on the Internet to be an admirer of Colin Firth, therefore the Internet is not necessary to continue one's admiration. Dropping doesn't necessarily mean your interest or faith has diminished. Lisa, Lizza, Ben - I enjoyed your diversion. I'd love to know what all those !*!!&?* signs mean though. Karen, welcome back. Belgo restaurant sounds good to me...we should reserve. Lizza -in-the-first-row, contact our fearless leader Heide.Thanks Ben for the tip. Yes, thank you for the tip, Ben. Are we given utensils? Evelyn dear, you and Lizza have hit on a great plan but please, I'm not the leader, just a co-host here. I'd love to meet you all but don't want to tie anyone down to my schedule. But since Lizza very kindly has volunteered to make reservations, I'm sure I'll join you.

(Heide)I agree with Arami's points #1 and #2 but reserve judgment on #3. Spoilsport. ;-p Are we given utensils? LOL! It's not all complete wilderness here, you know... ;-p

Are we given utensils? And put your left hand in your lap :-) Agree with Heide on Arami's #3. Ellen's FAQ and Jane's Articles were v. crucial to the success of the other websites...IMO the most impressive of the CF websites.We all used them as resources. I saw no indication of waning interest. I am v. grateful to them.

If I understood Jane right, her main reason for taking the page down was the tremendous lot of work and time that went into it. Also, she took the trouble to ask the authors for permission to publish, and did not get it for the best articles. (What does that teach us?? �8-)=) ) I think we must respect the decisions of the webmistresses to take down their pages, however sad it is. Well, perhaps let them know they will be missed much! And don't forget: each and everyone who is reading this can become a webmistress/master and step in. It's right before your noses. Webspace is free, there's freeware for the tools you need, there are free tutorials out there, and always people you can ask. Why don't you start tomorrow? (Yes, you!)

Film Four (TV subscriber rchannel) are showing "Another country" TONIGHT 10pm. Photo of RE and CF in TV section in the Times. First showing on TV?

Ahhh! Green with envy. We can think of you. Let us know how it goes?

(KarenR)Also, why would anyone take anything a tabloid publication printed seriously? If that were the case, I should be on the lookout for aliens in my backyard or at least a half cow, half human baby living down the street. ROTFLOL! My favorite (and I only go so far as to read the headlines while waiting to check out at the supermarket) is the Weekly World News. It's a riot!! This discussion re: internet info overload has been typically thoughtful and sensible, although we all didn't have the same reaction to Colin's comment or share the same view. That's what makes this site so much fun for me. We have a common bond but respect one another and don't agree on everything. I was surprised to see that Ellen withdrew the FAQ since it was compiled from other sources of published media. Thanks, Renate, for clarifying why Jane is taking down her articles page. As I caught up on these posts I had visions of a domino effect with Colin's web pages being withdrawn one by one. Having spent the majority of my 'net time at FOF sites prior to arriving here, I was always pleased with the integrity of the info presented: not only was it accurate but procured honestly (e.g., no ictures taken by paparazzi). I don't think that Colin's comment was a misquote (even though this was a tabloid), but it might have been an incomplete quote. At any rate, I've been thoroughly enjoying these legitimate (because they come right from him) glimpses into his thoughts and opinions. I hope they don't stop (or he goes back to "watching what he says" as in the 9/97 Vogue article). Having pontificated all that, is there any interest in posting the remainder of the People article on this board? P.S. Ben, thanks for the translations. When I first visited England in '85 (a travel destination chosen in large part because of the common language) I was amazed at how uncommon it was. While in a pub, someone next to me asked for a "serviette" and I had no idea what she wanted (a napkin!). I'm reading Fever Pitch right now and sense that at least half of Hornby's wry humor (now I know why he and Colin are friends) is flying over my head.

(Renate)Why don't you start tomorrow?(Yes, you!) You're joking...I'm thrilled every time I can log on Drool.!!! Not all of us are techies...but we admire you enormously. ****** (Eileen)We have a common bond but respect one another and don't agree on everything. I like to quote Nan..our webmistress emerita..."if we all agreed all the time we would have nothing to talk about" :-) ****** Elena, I read your posting at Chat on buying FP in London. I have a PAL I shall be glad to give you.Will bring it on the 6th...pl.email me.

(Renate)Why don't you start tomorrow?(Yes, you!) (Evelyn) You're joking...I'm thrilled every time I can log on Drool.!!! Not all of us are techies...but we admire you enormously. Well, *I* love to be admired ;-p. You don't need to be a techie, and it is not difficult - in fact, in a way it is ridiculously easy. Most of all you need patience and time because there's a lot of details you have to think about. But it's fun, and once you've started you can't stop anymore. That's why webpages grow like mushrooms.... :-)

Hey, did anyone notice we've more than 1000 posts on this topic again?

(Gi)Hey, did anyone notice we've more than 1000 posts on this topic again? Yes and we're just going to throw caution to the wind and keep going!! (Eileen) is there any interest in posting the remainder of the People article on this board? Wasn't it all posted? Thought so. FYI, thanks Renate for posting the info about the South Coast Repertory Company's book. It was prominently displayed at a theater bookstore in town. I asked if it were going to be printed alone, and no date was provided by the company holding the rights. However, the situation is entirely different in England. They said I should have no trouble buying the play in London (probably at the Samuel French bookshop).

Post script to Another Country. We don't subscribe to Film Four, but we do get a Cable magazine. I checked today's listing.....nice pic of RE and CF. Then I read "Another Country", starring Rupert Everett and Betsy Brantley!!! Who the **** is Brantley, if you'll pardon my French? :-)

It doesn't seem to matter what billing order he is, someone always ***** up and leaves him out. Pardon the expression again. BB rings a bell and I am sure she has been in ----- It's on the tip of my tongue, come on film buffs, help us out.

Was she the mother? Huge part! Sorry, am mistaken, huge hat.

No, she was not the mother. She played Julie Schofield. Who was she?

On SUNDAY (14.02.1999) CF will be at the BERLINALE In Berlin (germany) at 20.00 o clock !!!!! SIL will be shown there at the BERLINALE ! But I was told that there are no more tickets available for SIL :-( Maybe I will fly to Berlin and try to get some tickets for my sister and me (she has got the "plesure" to come with me to London, too ;-) ) Is somebody going to Berlin, too????

(Renate)Re: webpages...But it's fun, and once you've started you can't stop anymore... Hey, I'm not looking for any additional addictions.... Drool is enough...and JE webpage!! Whew! But thanks for the vote of confidence :-) ****** A little upbeat news....Bank contact says he'll have news for me on SLOW mid March!!Maybe sooner....anyway...imminent, sort of. Bethan was right....'99 is his year.Three films due out this year.... one play, one television....Moon, break out the bubbly. (JE has three films due out too....)Happy Days are here again.... *** Haven't seen AC in ages.Couldn't you strangle those people for ignoring him.

(Sabine)CF will be at the BERLINALE In Berlin Good girl Sabine....proud of you for bring us that news. I would think the German Firthettes would be out in force. Harvey has a way of marshalling his cast. GP is to be there too.

Karen, I don't think anybody picked up where I left off last week (don't have time to recheck the posts). If not, there's not much left and I can finish it on Wednesday. Counting down until the Oscar noms come out tomorrow a.m.!

(Evelyn), Moon, break out the bubbly. Always happy to oblige, "Happy Days are Here Again", one of my favorite songs! Maybe we can sushi too, loved the "British bog roll", LOL! I hope to have more information by friday too. And the Oscar goes to....

I should explain that I didn't intend to insult anyone, but I thought that some kind of a shock method might cause some quitters to stop and think. I still see the closure of some CF sites as a totally unnecessary overreaction. Sort of: give me my toys back, I don't want to play anymore... Doesn't make any sense, if you ask me.

She played Julie Schofield. Who was she? Dunno.The non-speaking Matron? It was a boys' school after all! (Sabine)CF will be at the BERLINALE In Berlin (Evelyn)Good girl Sabine....proud of you for bring us that news. I would think the German Firthettes would be out in force. Harvey has a way of marshalling his cast. GP is to be there too. You've got to hand it to Harvey...he's really brought CF out of seclusion. Maybe he says "Hey Colin, you know that June opening for "My Life So Far", we-e-ll, there could be a problem. Let's talk it over in Berlin!" Seriously you've got to admire the guy for his wholehearted aggressive marketing. The British Film "industry"" could learn a lot from him! A little upbeat news....Bank contact says he'll have news for me on SLOW mid March!!Maybe sooner....anyway...imminent, sort of. Bethan was right....'99 is his year.Three films due out this year.... one play, one television....Moon, break out the bubbly. (Evelyn) Great news Evelyn. Many thanks for pursuing this one. SLOW has always been the one I really want to see. Beautiful setting, and a Nigerian script which I think will be vibrant and fresh. I know I've mentioned this before but we spent a few years in Nigeria, and there are some excellent writers...and performers...out there. Yep, optimism pays off. 99 will be a very good year! And for JE, as well!

It doesn't seem to matter what billing order he is, someone always ***** up and leaves him out. I'm afraid we have to face the fact that there is a "Curse of Firth". (Sabine) On SUNDAY (14.02.1999) CF will be at the BERLINALE In Berlin (germany) at 20.00 o clock !!!!! Where did you get the information, Sabine, online, or which newspaper, which show? Do you know *for sure* he will attend? We decided to drop Berlin in favour of London, because we assumed that he will be busy in London rehearsing. But then, it's no big deal to just fly in for a night or two.

Here's the link to the SIL page at the Berlinale site. http://www.berlinale.de/deutsch/wettbewerb/

"Another Country", starring Rupert Everett and Betsy Brantley!!! Who the **** is Brantley, if you'll pardon my French? :-) Not the mother? There weren't any other women in this film, were there? Perhaps this is the "uncut" version - all those scenes of Tommy and his usherette have been restored. ;-) Sabine, Renate, Kirsten and whoever...keep us informed on Berlin. Valentine's Day - how apropos. I will keep my fingers crossed for Secret Laughter...but I don't know if I can take so much Colin in such a short time. SiL, 3DOR, FP, MLSF, etc. I wish we could dole his performances out bit by bit to help us get through the lean times.

Hate to keep harping on an unpleasant subject, but to quote CF, "...a lot of misery is caused by expectations." I suspect also that a lot of misery is caused by making unwarranted assumptions. The biggest one, it seems to me , is that everyone is assuming that the DB is fully aware of what is being done in his name and on his behalf on the Web. Granted, he's got to know it's there...people keep referring to it. I know I did when I sent him that card ( that he sent back the lovely note and photo for). He expressed his appreciation for the art that I'd done...but then I'd sent him a photo of it, so he knew what effort and thought went into it..it was right under his nose. Now, think about it. This is a guy who HASN'T OWNED A TV SET for the last eight years or so, for crying out loud! Can you honestly picture him hungrily surfing the Web at all hours of the night on his new state-of-the-art machine?? Except for the fans, reporters, interviewers and the like who assure him that he's on the net out there, I contend that he is totally unaware of the extent, the content, and THE INTENT of all those websites into which so much work has gone. I think the maintainers of those sites are assuming he DOES KNOW and is thumbing his nose at them and not being subsequently grateful. I contend this is because he DOESN'T KNOW MUCH, IF ANYTHING, ABOUT THEM. He loves to read, it's said. Ellen, send him a print-out of the current FAQ...put it under his nose. Then you'll KNOW that he knows what you're talking about. Jane, send him a copy of your index so he can see you are very selective about what you have been putting on line about him. DO NOT...REPEAT...DO NOT ASSUME HE KNOWS ABOUT ANY OF IT. And, finally, I think we all need to take inventory of our expectations...of him..of ourselves...of each other...and figure out what assumptions we've been making...possibly erroneous ones. Possibly some revision is in order.

Arami--I have made several reduced color photocopies of the People article. E-mail me a couple of those "non-computer friends" you were speaking of so they can at least get the small version.

Thank you KJArt...you've given us a lot to think about.

Haven't been able to log on. I have missed so much the last couple of days. I was sorry to read COlin's comments but, I can understand how he feels. I might not agree with it. He must know that lots of people admire his works. A famous person once said, "Trust the art and not the Artist."

Just to continue the catalogue of good news, I've just read that David Blair, who is directing "Dominic Quick" also directed "Taking over the Asylum" which I would rate as the best contemporary drama series I've ever seem on TV (also won BAFTA awards). It was set, unpromisingly, in a mental hospital, and showed how a group of patients helped themselves, and others, by setting up a radio station. It was warm. poignant, beautifully acted, and often very funny. And it made you realise that people with ment l illness can be better than so-called normal people. There seem to be some parallels with "Dominic Quick"...I wonder if the same writer is involved, as writers often reurn to familiar themes. All in all, I think this bodes very well for Dom Q, and for CF. There'a another example of David Blair's work on British TV tonight "Vicious Circle" although it sounds completely different, about the IRA, violent and harsh.

I recently wrote to BBC and asked who was co-starring with CF in DQ and when it would be aired. They just responded ..."to early to say at present". But it sounds as if DQ is gathering momentum. I posted Oscar Nominations news on 115.

Betsy Brantley played the reporter who interviewed RE at the beginning of the movie. She used to be on some TV show here in the States.

Should the Donmar put in extra phone lines? From Act 2 of 3DOR: Ned: Your clothes will have to dry. Lina: I can wearl them damp. Ned: All right. (He gets a knife, starts chopping begetables. With sudden gallantry) Won't you please say to dinner? Lina: Give me that knife. He yields it. She starts chopping what he was chopping. After a moment, she starts sniffing the air. Lina: I've always rather enjoyed the smell of drenched wool on a person. He whips off his sweater. Lights. Rain louder. Half-hour later. ******************** Interesting play and very wet!! ;-)

Oh Karen....you'll be ready for 3DOR play discussion when we return.... How about it ?

I was wondering if we should have a 3DOR spoiler page for those who want to dsicuss the play and not spoil it for those who are seeing it in the second week.

not spoil it for those who are seeing it in the second week. We could even wait till it closes on the 16th.

I won't do anymore. Just wanted to WHET your appetite!

No, no....I want to hear more....that's not a spoiler. On the contrary....it builds up expectations...I'm trying to get it from the library...but it's too new.

I don't think I will be able to wait past Sunday the 7th.

Well, you could give your report on this board.....and then we could discuss it Act by Act on #98. (Listen to me?....who the h--- do I think I am...? I'm a nobody...) We shall have to get K&H approval on this, of course. (Sorry hosts...do not mean to usurp your dominium....AAA)

(Renate) I'm afraid we have to face the fact that there is a "Curse of Firth". Yes, I know: I've been under it for the past three years... ;-p On SUNDAY (14.02.1999) CF will be at the BERLINALE In Berlin... Hey, the 3DOR rehearsals must be in full swing now: the cast has to learn their lines and cues to perfection; soon the director will have to start blocking it in earnest... Sundays may be the only free days... and Colin is going to give up one of his days off to go to Berlin... German fans, be proud and rejoice! He whips off his sweater. I can't wait!!!

You are an everybody, because I was thinking the same thing!!! Let's hear it for Evelyn, the lady with the good ideas who doesn't mind sharing them with the rest of us...some of us are less clever. Come down on 113 and you may say what you want. No one else is there =P

(KJart) Ellen, send him a print-out of the current FAQ...put it under his nose. Yes, that occurred to me too and I do hope that Ellen sent it to him.....what a farce if the poor bloke doesn�t have the slightest clue what the h*** is the Colin Firth FAQ!! He could be quite bewildered, and even hurt, because I feel that Ellen�s attitude is almost a bit hostile or something.....I�m sorry for that Ellen, it�s just how I instantly felt, that�s all. KJart, I�m touched by your consideration, and the idea that the DB could be that innocent. Of course it is difficult to believe that he�d say such a thing about the Internet if he really knew what he�s talking about. It�s just too difficult to believe that he wouldn�t know! Oh, I seem to be ranting about this endlessly, but it�s because somehow the whole mess fascinates me and amuses too.... I mean the bunch of us trying to figure out what he knows and thinks, and we shall never know it for sure. And I�m nuts enough to find even his obscurity and inconsistencies quite sexy.

Just a thought, but I wonder if CF has ever thought of directing. Might be sorta interesting for him. I'm still alive in case anyone wondered. Lots of news going on, you guys are so excited!

He whips off his sweater. Oh my beating heart!!!!! I wish I could be there. Ann .... Evelyn.... Gi...... I am so jealous. What I wouldn't give to be in your shoes. I am going to want a scene by scene account.

I am so insanely jealous of those of you who are going to see 3DOR! ...And this makes it worse: I've been planning a trip to England/Scotland sometime during 99 for the past couple of months. We (my friend, cousin & i) had been debating up until Dec when to go, either in Feb/Mar or in Oct. Finally we decided on Oct, cause we would have more vacation time from work by then, and we could stay longer. You should have heard my screams of anguish when i found out about 3DOR. I broke the news of our ill ti ing to my cousin (only 13 and a Major Darcy fan) on Sun. I thought she was going to cry. -So that's my sob story. (Meanwhile, i keep having these fanatsies that i implusivly run to the airport and fly to London for the weekend as soon as the play opens. And i have to tell you, now that i know he's going to be whipping his shirt off... well, lets just say i'm getting really good at rationalizing this fanatasy in my mind.) :) SBR

He will be whipping off his sweater...and some of you have seats in the first row, right? Do they have seatbelts? ;-) To those lucky attendees: in addition to deciding when/where to discuss the play on-line, please don't forget to divvy up the assignment of reporting every single detail to your unfortunate drool sisters (and brother)who can't go. We are living vicariously through all of you. S Robinson, if you live in the US take some comfort in the fact that you will be home for FP's opening in late March. Great news about SLOW, Evelyn! Thanks for taking the time to make inquiries. Finally, hurrah for SiL's 13 Oscar noms! More on that at 115!

There was an article about the play in Playbill. The link is below. Playbill 3DOR article

He's wet, he whips off his sweater,he's real, and he's about six feet away from you! This sounds like Fantasty Island! So, what happens NEXT, Karen? :-) This is not a serious question...I don't want to spoil the dramatic flow!

(Eileen)...Great news about SLOW, Evelyn. Don't break out the bubbly...we're not there yet!! (This film has had a checkered life.)

(Bethan) So, what happens NEXT, Karen? :-) This is not a serious question...I don't want to spoil the dramatic flow! Wouldn't you like to know! (but I'm sure you can guess) hee hee ;-) Of course, there is the possibility he doesn't play that character and is Theo in the second act. FYI, I got my copy of the play through my library's online periodical abstract database. Believe it or not, it was all there and I printed it out (23 single spaced and no formatting). It's not easy to read, as they smush it all together, without spaces. But it was readable and free!!

Thanks for the link to Playbill, Susanne! Oh, that article made me realize that it must be really be true, he really IS in that play! So he must really exist! And that I am going to see him in it. Can it be possible?! I see that he has been a kind of a fictional figure to me after all, maybe because he�s just too good to be true. I only wish that things won�t somehow dramatically change in my mind by seeing him in the flesh. Am I the only one who�s a little worried about this?? He could be so very different from what I�ve thought. After all, it�s often some sort of a surprise to see someone from movies/tv in real life, they�re just never quite the same (but much better sometimes, just in another way). I remember it so well how You reacted to meeting him, Dame Winter, I mean your feelings of shame about the Fan fic etc. I guess it was because something happened to your illusions! Oh no, I don�t want to be a wet blanket here, I know he�ll be wonderful. It�s just DIFFERENT to see someone act a few meters away and not on screen. It�s a much stronger experience.

If all of you going to 3DOR were not so nice, I would be consumed with jealousy of the most hateful sort. Love the comment on seat belts on the front row. If he is to remove any clothing, or (heaven forbid) get WET they'd need restraints!

He will be WET or at least damp...if he plays the Walker/Ned duo. Somehow I don't see him as Pip/Theo (the former being a supposedly shallow soap opera actor and the latter Ned's architect partner). Your newspapers are going to have a field day with this one. Mr. Darcy is wet again!!

Marcia, because all you ladies who can't join us are so nice too, we will do everything to make it feel like you were there. Just a seatbelt? I am in the front row and will probably need a straitjacket and ankle chains at the very least!!! Good luck in Berlin those of you going, Sabine, Renata. What an exciting day, we want full details.

We *must* have full reports and Pictures. Lots and Lots of Pictures. Photos, sketches. How about a pocket-sized voice-activated tape recorder to grab a few .wav files? Unobtrusive, but for the front few rows in such a tiny theatre, it should work. I have done it =) Then all we'd need is smell, and I don't suppose that is possible yet =\ Has anyone a large enough purse to put someone 5'6" inside? Anyway, I know the tiny part of your brain not overwhelmed with the CF experience will be thinking of u , and your reports back will make for memorable reading. Thanks!

I think that by the time all of us finish giving our reports, you are going to be saying....."enough, already". ***** pocket-sized voice-activated tape recorder..for front row.. I don't think that is legal.Anybody know? ****** I was looking at the People Mag pics and wonder... in the one where he is pouring expresso......is that a television set I see on the kitchen wall ..upper righthand corner??? Hmmmmmmm?? ***** Sabine, Renata, Kirsten..what a neat Valentine's Day you're going to have :-) we're with you in spirit. Me? I think I'll just look at a few choice episodes of P&P.

(Evelyn), that a television set I see on the kitchen wall ..upper righthand corner? No, it's an old radio. pocket-sized voice-activated tape recorder..for front row.. I don't think that is legal.Anybody know? That's how they used to make bootleg albums. I'm not sure if it's legal to tape the whole play, but a few voice samplers, might be perfectly acceptable, just bring a micro-cassette recorder and be discreet. Renate and Sabine, I'm also conting on you. Go to it!

And will cameras be allowed in the theatre? Oh the anguish!

If you want to keep your seat and not incur the wrath of the audience (it is hard to imagine members of the general public being there!!) then the Stage door would be the ideal snappy venue. We know that Ann takes a very mean shot, even with shaking hands! I don't think those of us there dare to return without the photographic evidence!!

Snippet from the Guardian.. "From the Diet Coke-break girls to the thirty-something (I wish!)fans of Mr Darcy, women - grown women - are deserting the real in favour of a fantasy landscape in which men measure up" ! Nice to know that three years on there's still an identifiable group of Darcy fans! The writer is sympathetic by the way, but says that women expect too much from their Mr Perfect! I see from the theatre ads in the paper that the current show at the Donmar finishes on Friday...it will be interesting to see if they start adverising 3DOR and CF. Incredibly, it opens in two weeks! I wonder what CF will wear? It's contemporary so he can wear his own clothes. My money's on baggy corduroy trousers and a sloppy jumper!

Can't recall where I got it from, but I have heard neither cameras nor recorder are permitted in the theatre, and that they even check the bags ..... any idea where to hide them? ;-P

We could always "dress" in the style of our DB! How many cameras can a Firthette conceal under a "Sloppy jumper"?

Evelyn), that a television set I see on the kitchen wall ..upper righthand corner? (Moon)No, it's an old radio. Really? are you pulling my leg? Can you change stations or volume with a remote? If not, you'd need a 6 foot ladder to reach those dials.... Look how high it is....up above the tiles and to the left of St Anthony!!

Anybody want a Chat, keep missing everyone by minutes.

Me...I've been there for half-hour... it's lonely in there all alone :-(

(Renate) I have heard neither cameras nor recorder are permitted in the theatre Do you you mean that particular theatre? Where did you get that from? Sounds very severe, never heard of a bag search in a theatre before! Actually, we should check this out, in fact I meant to do it today but forgot about it.

(Lizza)How many cameras can a Firthette conceal under a "Sloppy jumper"? But try explaining to the usher why your right breast is flashing! :-) Ladies, don't get carried away with enthusiasm. Much as we stay-at-homes want every detail, don't do anything illegal. We don't want anybody to end up in (as we say in Noo Yowk) da slammah! (Evelyn) Look how high it is....up above the tiles and to the left of St Anthony!! Isn't that Madonna? I mean the real Madonna! Seriously, I think that "no TV" quote is dated. Bet he has one now, although he might not use it alot. I also have a hunch he's not computer literate. I'm going to try to catch Ann at chat if anyone else is out there now.

Saw an ad in a magazine not too long ago for a really small camcorder. New ones will be digital. It was really tiny. Wonder who makes them, how much they cost and where can I get one.... Kidding!! (would be perfect though) Fastest way to lose your camera (and your seat as you are escorted out) is to take a picture during a performance. Don't know about afterward when they are taking their bows though. (I do have some experience in illegal picture-taking and have the pictures of the Xian stone soldiers as proof, but that was done without a flash.) ;-) Non-London goers, we will do our best to share every little tidbit. (Lizza) I am in the front row and will probably need a straitjacket and ankle chains at the very least!!! LOL!! Then perhaps you would like to switch seats to the fourth row? OK, OK, I can hear the NO all the way over here. Re: Saintly radios/TVs Since the Umbrian villa is as Moon suspect's belonging to Livia's parents, then they would likely be the TV watchers. Now all's well with the world again.

the left of St Anthony!! Isn't that Madonna? I mean the real Madonna! Yes...but she is below St. A. And that is definitely a television....a small screen one.

They probably have a TV, but I insist that tiny thing overhead is a radio. It's not that difficult to reach. Sempre la musica. Happy to see our 3DOR group so excited, I'm sure you'll be back with tales of glory. I've started the propaganda with my husband to go back to Umbria this summer (heehee), I have this need to go around the countryside looking for antiques.

Hey, I AM going to Umbria this summer. A place near Lucca. Where are the Firths?

At last. I've been trying to get in here for two nights but just kept getting Spring is not answering, try later. The Mining Co. Theater. has a small bit "Colin Firth returns to the west end," and a short pieece about the play on March 1. Are the lucky dogs who are going to fly over going to try to send a note back stage to let him know that you have flown over just to see him, or maybe let the box office know that you are there just for this purpose? Does anyone know how long Chatsky ran?

(Lucie).... going to try to send a note back stage to let him know that you have flown over just to see him, or maybe let the box office know that you are there just for this purpose? Are you kidding? He'd send the understudy out.

Hey, I AM going to Umbria this summer. A place near Lucca. Where are the Firths?

I still think it is a kitchen clock...silly me! Good idea about sending a note backstage. Would it not be wonderful to have a sold-out theatre with just Droolers in the audience?! BTW, I have not had trouble getting in to Spring, but from time to time I have trouble posting. The submission bar just sits there like it was not supposed to depress and send the post to you. So, I close all of the programs I am running, shut down the PC and restart it. That usually fixes it. (Only happens when I have bee on all day and it is on overload, even when I empty the caches. It is a puzzlement.)

Evelyn, you do not think he knows how respectable and proper we really are in person?! Heaven forbid he should remember my button snipping and contour checking should I be fortunate enough to meet him! Shhhhh....we shall not tell him we are from Drool. Tell him you are some erudite group with a large grant to bestow. He'll appear!

(Lucie) Send a note back stage to let him know Ann, what�s that CARD that you are planning to send to him before the play (I just snooped in the Chat) from his Internet fans or how was it. Anyway, I suspect that at least his management is aware of the fact that a certain group of fans is coming to the play on a well-known Saturday, it surely has been sold faster than any other evening and I�m also sure that if not Colin himself, then someone else is checking out these boards for him from time to time.

Just a good luck (or break a leg) card from all his adoring and considerate fans at spring.

I also have a hunch he's not computer literate. (Eileen) But I bet his friends and family are! I wonder when his parents retired...British universities were way ahead of the rest of the techno-challenged population in using the internet, particularly the Open University. And he's got an eight year old son...who probably knows a lot more about computers than his dad! Hey, I AM going to Umbria this summer. A place near Lucca. Where are the Firths? (Ben) Moon is our resident Italian expert, but Colin and Livia were married in Citta del Pieve, and the reception was at her parents' house, which I guess must have been within easy driving distance. So that puts them somewhere near Perugia. We visited Perugia and Gubbio several years ago...it's a beautiful region.

Ben, if your going to near Lucca, then you will be in Tuscany. I was in Cita delle Pieve last year, and as much as I liked the Citta, I was not impressed with the surrounding hillsides. I've seen much better. Since the Firths left the church in a horse drawn carriage, I assume the house must be a very easy distance from the church. In the interview he mentions a house overlooking vineyards, but around Citta delle Pieve they're really not found. Alas a mystery! As for Colin and computers, I can just see Will doing a search on his dad and being totally amazed, calling Meg over and just lurking around for hours. Surely, he would report back to dad. Of course, they might as well communicate via e-mail on a daily basis. My guess is that Colin has now become computer literate. Wasn't there a message left last April in FoF and everyone said it was CF? He might have been with Will in LA (heehee), it was during Easter week.

(Karen) Re: Saintly radios/TVs Since the Umbrian villa is as Moon suspect's belonging to Livia's parents, then they would likely be the TV watchers. Now all's well with the world again. Oh, yeah, I agree, that's her parents' place. Colin and Livia with saints on the wall? I don't know about that. (Moon)I've started the propaganda with my husband to go back to Umbria this summer (heehee), I have this need to go around the countryside looking for antiques. LOL! You sly thing, you. I know it's a while away, but do remember to let us know if you find anything (read anyone) interesting in your travels! (Bethan)I also have a hunch he's not computer literate. (Eileen) But I bet his friends and family are!...And he's got an eight year old son...who probably knows a lot more about computers than his dad! I almost added that same comment about his son to my first post. I wouldn't doubt that young Will can teach his dad a thing or two. My 8-going-on-9 year old nephew does all his homework on the computer, printing it out with fancy fonts, etc. and he's been doing it that way for a few years. I used to regularly hit all the FoF sites. Last summer, there was an entry in one of the guest books (either Meluchie's or Murph's) that read something like "it is nice to be appreciated" and everyone went nuts thinking it was Colin (of course, there was no name or e-mail address with it). ???? Who knows? Maybe it was? Maybe it was some smarta_s hoping to make us think it was? (Marcia)Tell him you are some erudite group with a large grant to bestow. He'll appear! Now there's an interesting idea!

(Moon)Wasn't there a message left last April in FoF and everyone said it was CF? He might have been with Will in LA (heehee), it was during Easter week. This is the one to which I refer in my post, which I was typing (many interruptions) while yours went up. Great minds think alike (and almost simultaneously!) Was it last April? Where does the time go?

People Article

Ooops, forgot to say. The post above is the text of the People article for those of you who haven't received your copy yet. Sorry no pics!

(Moon)Wasn't there a message left last April in FoF Yes, the words were exactly �it is nice to be appreciated�, I remember it like yesterday. Almost stopped my heart but then my sceptic side won over and I thought how easy it really would be to give all sorts of ideas to people in the net. Surprising actually that the guest book wasn�t filled with notes from �Colin� made by some jerks. And that�s why I still wonder about that message sometimes....it was the only one of that type!!!

I feel so frustrated for Colin and sorry for him, he is doing so much promotion for SIL, firstly he gets ignored by HW. at the Golden Globes and now having been to the Miramax SIL page which has been upgraded (the link is on Dolores page) I find that Colin has been omitted from the cast list, just JF,GP JD, GR & BA, it is too much, he was after all 4th billing and now nothing. I am definitely going off Miramax and SIL, it certainly doesn't seem worth all the hard work. Its as if he never starred in SIL and he certainly played his role equally if not better than BA, and he had much more to do all BA did was stand around. Sorry BA but I have got to take it out on someone. I am going to forget all about SIL and move on to MLSF, 3DOR & DQ. Sorry ladies but I feel better now that I have got that off my chest!

Must be a mistake, Ann, not deliberate. Although it seems to be a pretty persistent error. However I do think that JD's and GR's Oscar nominations have relegated him to the sidelines. Miramax used him initially in the promotion, but don't need him any more...or is that being too cynical?

How many times can it be a mistake, and even if he is relegated to the sidelines, his name still appears on the poster as does the other five, so I think it is a bit much when only he is omitted. Was going to see it for the 3rd time, but shall now wait for the video to come out and fast forward to all the CF bits. They still appear to be using him for the promotion of the film, NY, LA, London and now Berlin.

...Re: the guest book... the words were exactly �it is nice to be appreciated�, We trashed that one around last spring on this board for days on end....and reallydon't want to go there again....but interestingly those were almost the words he told Winter at the LA premiere when she told him she was representing the Internet fans....said "I really appreciate them". I know, Iknow, he's not the only one whoever uses that word....probably just a coincidence. **** We should take an ad in the TIMES to say : COLIN FIRTH is so in SIL!

here, here and damned good he was too, sorry about that but it is how I feel.

I've been wondering about the promotion of SIL. I can see that Harvey W. has stagemanaged it very cleverly. A staggered release in the US (more than recouping the production costs), then the 13 Oscar nominations just as it's going on international release. Very good timing. But has it helped CF? I always assumed that the release of MLSF was delayed so that SIL could raise Colin's profile in the US. But has this happened? And if not, wouldn't it have been better to have released MLSF in Europe and the US last summer (Irene Jacob is very popular in several European countries) So that, irrespective of the commercial success of the film (and I think that box office success is very difficult)at least people would have recognised that CF does take on leading roles. I'm not entirel clear about Harvey's motives...sometimes I believe the best of him , sometimes, well, not the best!

It has been suggested that we email the Miramaz webmaster and tell him of the omission....which was probably not intentional. MMX_Webmaster_M@Miramax.com ***************** .... MLSF was delayed so that SIL could raise Colin's profile in the US. But has this happened? Well, for starters , it got him a 3 page spread and a not bad pic in the contents page of PEOPLE....with nice quotes from Gwynnie in the mag and on several shows.I wouldn't think he'd be complaining. And, hey, there's a sudden resurgence in prominence.

Will anyone be at 3DOR close enough to the end of its run to stake a claim on the theater posters? That would be a very nice souvenir.

Ann: I agree with you. How many mistakes can be made. I am still mad at HW for omitting him at the Golden GLobes. I did write my opinion to him personally which I am sure is opened in the mail room but, alas, it did make me feel better.

Well, for starters , it got him a 3 page spread and a not bad pic in the contents page of PEOPLE....with nice quotes from Gwynnie in the mag Yep! Forgot about PEOPLE mag! And everyone has heard of SIL, so it's an excellent film to be associated with. Thinking positive again! And Harvey certainly can deliver the goods.

We trashed that one around last spring on this board for days on end....and really don't want to go there again That�s what�s wrong with us newbies, we keep wanting to wallow all over again in things that already have been discussed!!!....:-))

(Marcia) Will anyone be at 3DOR close enough to the end of its run to stake a claim on the theater posters? That would be a very nice souvenir. Indeed it would be! Marcia, what a great idea. We will be there on the last performance, and try to get the poster(s).

Ann, re: Colin omissions -- now that Oscar noms have been announced, they've started running new print ads for the leading films touting the nominations they've received. The one for SiL now includes, in addition to the picture they've been running all along of GP and JF, pictures of GR, JD... and BA. Now, GR and JD you can understand, being that they're nominees. I guess they threw in BA because it's an American audience and he's a past Oscar winner (albeit for writing). But I still wish they had include Colin -- he does have higher billing than BA, after all. I haven't yet seen SiL and I've been wondering: are GR and CF's parts about equal in prominence, or is GR's really that much more prominent as to merit the award noms he's received? Or is it just the cachet of being a past Oscar winner -- if he were a relative unknown, would Colin be receiving the best supporting noms instead?

Oldbies moaning selfishly about repetitions - shame on you. Newbies wanting to wallow in things that have already been discussed, please feel free to go ahead. This forum is open to all.

That�s what�s wrong with us newbies, we keep wanting to wallow all over again in things that already have been discussed!!!....:-)) Hey, there's nothing wrong with being a newbie. Please don't think that I am discouraging any discussion...I just want to comment that it can get controversial.But , "wallow all over it", if you want to:-) ****** Renate, Kirsten, Sabine..... We are eagerly awaiting your report on the Berlinale tomorrow. Will President Schroeder be there!!A big coup for Harvey...the US premiere only got the President's wife!!

Susan, in my opinion CF's character had more screen time than GR, but possibly GR was more showy. I thought Colin was excellent and definitely deserved as big a mention as BA, (I'm sorry I'm not really a fan of BA, can see what all the fuss is about), and his role was quite important to the storyline. Playing a baddie cannot be easy in a comedy and I thought he played it just right, as someone said he was stuffily amusing, made me smile, and of course that voice just towers above everyone, I know I am b ased but I definitely think he was as good as any of the supporting actors including GR & JD. Also although GP & JF were very good I was not that convinced by them, to my mind it was the screenplay and the wonderful ensemble of supporting actors that made this film great, right down to the very minor roles.

(Evelyn) Renate, Kirsten, Sabine..... We are eagerly awaiting your report on the Berlinale tomorrow. Will President Schroeder be there!!A big coup for Harvey...the US premiere only got the President's wife!! But what an exceptional woman. Kanzler Schr�der was there the opening night, I would be surprised if he also would be there tomorrow. The reports are rather thin so far, as usual. This year unfortunately it has to compete for tv time with the "Fasching" (= Carnival), "the" major event for many people, and it lasts until Tuesday. When there are reports from Berlin they tend to focus on Steven Spielberg who got an award for his work for and creation of the Shoah Foundation. The Berlinale snippets showed a lot of politicians and celebrities, but mostly of the local species. International guests were Ben Kingsley, Nick Nolte, Angela Molina (Jury President), Bruce Willis, Meryl Streep, can't recall any others right now. I promise to let you know if something happens that is only remotely related to SIL. If you don't hear anything it is because the tv does not report anything - or that I missed it.

Grrr! Forgot to close the tag. Sorry.

These Berlin sites have daily updated reports on the Berlinale: http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlinale/ http://www.radioeins.de/berlinale/news/ http://www.berlinale.de/

Press conference for SIL according to the Berlinale site: http://www.berlinale.de/deutsch/news/ Sonntag, 14.2.1999 Sunday, 2/14/1999 14:15 Uhr WETTBEWERB/COMPETITION Shakespeare In Love John Madden (Regisseur/Director) Colin Firth (Darsteller/Director) Marc Norman (Produzent/Producer) David Parfitt (Produzent/Producer) Donna Gigliotti (Produzentin/Producer) And did you see it: Colin Firth is the only actor mentioned, but as director, too! Erm... did I miss something? 8-o They also offer the press conferences on Real Video.....

(Renate) We will be there on the last performance, and try to get the poster(s). Then start thinking about how to get them scanned and posted, will you? ;-)

(Renate) We will be there on the last performance, and try to get the poster(s). Then start thinking about how to get them scanned and posted... ;-)

Sorry :-(

My thought exactly, Gi. If I cannot get to 3DOR, at least let me see the theater posters. There are usually large easel-type and the smaller behind glass type. Perhaps you could get them all. I believe they just toss them when the run is over. Go for it Renate!

(Renate)If you don't hear anything it is because the tv does not report anything - or that I missed it. Are there any fans going to Berlin to see Colin?

In the interview he mentions a house overlooking vineyards, but around Citta delle Pieve they're really not found. Alas a mystery! (Moon) Aha! Perhaps a deliberate ploy to throw super-sleuthing fans off the track! it got him a 3 page spread and a not bad pic in the contents page of PEOPLE. (Evelyn) Forgot to mention...I thought that the People article was a very positive and complimentary one, and excellent PR for Colin, particularly if it was read by people who had heard of him but didn't know much about him. Would definitely appeal to Mums....nice upbringing, likes children and animals! 3DOR...I see that EM's last outing on the stage was in "Hurlyburly" in 97. If I'm not mistaken it won the Olivier "Best drama" award...I certainly remember some very glowing reviews for the performance. Ben, Evelyn...JE's new film opems on Friday, but against stiff competition...Eddie Murphy's latest , Nick Nolte in "Affliction", and Jackie & Hilary on general release. And SIL, A Bug's life, and Little Voice are still going strong. I coninue to be amazed by the sheer quantity of movies releases each week..the market really is saturated, as there's normally only room for one "winner", and some very good films go to the wall. No specific mention of JE so far, only Kathy Burke ("our most popular & talented ctress"...really, you could have fooled me!) Is GP in Berlin? Hadn't realised that Colin was going. He's very conscientious, these days, isn't he!

That's just it, he is being very conscientious and working very hard to promote SIL, and yet he appears to have been dropped in the run-up to the Oscars, Susan says he is not mentioned in the US advertising media hype anymore and there is no mention of him on the upgraded website, I feel really sorry for him, especially as BA is still there.

Kathy Burke? Que? "But what is it that it is, this history?" as our French friends say. A load of bollocks, that's what. Let the rest of England have Ms Burke, then; I will settle for La Deesse, Aphrodite herself, the blessed JE. While all the others are fawning over KB's decidedly unappealing face, I will marvel at Jennifer's peach-like skin, melt before her radiant eyes, quiver helplessly in front of her firm but..ENOUGH. Sorry. But I ask you.

Finally Shakespeare in Love has opened everywhere in the US this weekend. Should really see the dollars piling in now. I had to go to Philadelphia to see it the first time - bah! the heathens - they didn't enjoy it half as much as the good natured plebians in my hometown theater today. Feeling very good about the reception this film is getting worldwide. The hype is difficult to live up to but it seems to be meeting everyone's expectations. Have no idea who Kathy Burke is.

Kathy Burke ("our most popular & talented actress"...) Never heard of her. But I did hear that THis Year's Love is getting good reviews..... (NEON Mag...[never heard of it, either] gave it 5 stars.....) Right On!! **** I read in Variety that GP was going to the Berlinale for SIL release. (Germany is the second biggest boxoffice market in the world aft the US...sez Variety.) Then Kirsten posted that Colin was also going to be there. **** In Okla. City SIL went from 2 cinemas to 6 this week!!!It's featured in all the malls. Never thought these cowboys would go to a film with Shakespeare in the title!!They love it!! It's drawing people from all levels.

Kathy Burke was in Absolutely Fabulous and played Queen Mary in Elizabeth. the one who died of cancer. She is an extremely funny comedienne.

She is also in Dancing at Lughasa (the Irish film with Meryl Streep and Sophie Thompson among others), a real tearjerker.

Here's a Valentine's Day's link: http://www.firth.com/html/nanvald99.html

http://www.mediaweb-tv.de/english/ifb99/990214/shakespeare.html CF attending press conference in Berlin!!!!

With very short hair? I checked out the Sunday papers today incase there was anything about 3DOR. The Donmar are advertising their "American imports" season but list only the other two plays, not 3DOR. Other productions about to open in the next two or three weeks have largish ads with details and photos of the cast. It looks as though they're keeping 3DOR very low-keyed in terms of advance publicity. The last two Donmar productions.."The Blue Room" and "In the Woods".. both secured Best Actress nominations in the Olivier awards, so they're maintaining a high profile reputation.

Here's a place where you can vote for SIL. Or for any other film, for that matter, but this case does not apply here, or does it? Go to the "B�rometer": http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlinale/

As the time nears for the run of 3DOR, my despair grows. Since I am unable to join the lucky ladies in London, I pretended I was readying myself for the trip: Items to Pack for the 3DOR Trip 1. Clingy little black dress (CLBD) 2. Tummy tucking, thigh slimming, hip slip to wear under CLBD 3. Large emergency reserve of chocolate 4. Loose-fitting, stretchy trouser ensemble (see no. 3) 5. Box of black Sharpie permanent markers (the best for autographs) 6. Travel-size tube of Renova (must look dewy for Colin) 7. Bottle of Valerian capsules (OTC natural sedative) 8. Lap top computer (to chronicle the 3DOR trip and log onto Drool) 9. Micro audio cassette recorder (for bootleg tapes of 3DOR) 10. Name and phone number of attorney (in the event of arrest at the Donmar for possession of No. 9) 11. Atomizer of CF-friendly cologne (essence of Creme Brulee, perhaps) 12. Large bottle of anti-frizz hair serum (March weather in London) 13. Paperback copy of Don Quixote (never too early to research background information on Dom Quick for future film discussions at Drool) 14. Small box of Altoids (industrial-strength breath mints for backstage visits) 15. Camera and several rolls of film (Firth photo-ops)

Lisa don't think that lot will fit in my handbag, even though my husband says I usually carry the kitchen sink in it, LOL. Renata, thanks for the Press conference link, however , if you click on to news there is another photo of the press conference which you can enlarge and it is clearer. Evelyn, I am home earlier than I expected, I shall go to Chat.

Lisa, that's wonderful. A definite Bridget entry. Will you lend me your clingy black dress? Sorry, that sounds like I'm rubbing it in. Perhaps you can fit in my handbag? Renate, the link is wonderful. I went to the press conference and love him in it. It took forever to download but the wait was worth it for his darling, pithy comments. Okay, I'm blithering again. He was the only actor there! What a good, good boy. There must be a reason he's working so hard for Harvey. It's got to be that push for MLSF, Bethan. I think he was wearing that same black shadow striped t-shirt he wore in the A&E interview. Could you tell Renate? Conference was very short and only 2 questions directed to Colin. He was self conscious, don't you think? but still charming. His public performance continues to improve. One thing he could improve on would be knowing how to end his an wers...sometimes they drone on though I can listen to that voice all day long. Any more news Renate? Pictures possibly?

Almost forgot and forgive me my self-indulgence here but my best friend Debbie had a dream last night and had to tell me. Here's her e-mail: It starts (I think) where we're at a Crime Watch meeting. My brother is there talking about GPU and the electricity choices you have and hands out a brochure which actually turns out to be an Avon catalog sponsored by GPU(!). ANyway, on the way out you ask me if my apartment is tidy and I said yes and you said good because Colin needs a place to stay for two days. I say, Colin who and you say Colin Firth!! The next thing I remember is Colin is sitting in my apartment (which really didn't look my apartment) and he's a little heavier, has a broken foot and looks so darn cute. Apparently, you and he have become internet buddies (I'm not making this up) and he's divorcing his wife and you and he are an item. I'm pissed because you never told me about this and kept it a secret from me. That's it, I think.

For those of us who can't download the press conference video clip there is transcript of the press conference at Lisbeth's Timeline website. I agree heide he is wearing the same t shirt, perhaps we should club together and get him another one.

Thank you Renate, for the beautiful Valentine...it's P&P for me tonight folks.

Lisa, LOL! Who needs Helen Fielding! And Heide, that dream! So, you and he are an item, we-e-ll!!!! :-) (Why the broken foot?)

Thank you, Renate. Some darling moments with him. And the wry comment about representing the very small contingent of those NOT nominated for an Oscar. I have it saved so I can watch it over and over. And, so I shall! Please, someone bring it to Hilo...Oh, yes, and the mandatory question referring to Darcy. I smiled knowingly!

Those attending 3DOR need a fashionable handbag which is larger on the inside than it is on the outside. I have been known to have one. That, or get one with wheels =)

MARCIA!!! How do you save a Real Player video clip??? Please let us know, quick!!!

Yes, Marcia, how did you do it? I have heard that you need a fully licensed version of the Real Player, not the free version most of us have. How large is the file? Would it be possible to send it as a mail attachment? Or could you save it on a floppy disc?

Boot the player. on top bar choose Presets, then the top option under presets is Add to Presets (or control+A) click add to presets. It will ask you where you want it. I made CF his own folder.

checking on your questions on how to get it to you if you cannot save it. Mine is not the paid-for Real Player!!! I watched him in full screen just like I watch the space shuttle. For best results, let the entire file download, then replay it.

Oh dear, I sincerely hope each of you download the file again and as it plays click the Presets and save it. I have used find/file or folder and it is no where to be found. Must be stored in the Real Player=) I have lots of files in there and none are in my PC files. (yes, they are, but I have not yet found them) I will keep at it. I know it works as it is playing as I write this - my preset file copy.

Thank you very much, Marcia, for your advice. Meanwhile I have downloaded an upgraded version, but I cannot find that preset button - guess I'll have to read the help file :-/.

He was quite the comedian at the press conference in Berlin. Got lots of laughs. Maybe this will encourage the Berlin Film Festival people to give him an award since he was the only star to stay for the press conference. Looked good too, lots of smiles (dimples). I wish I could get a tape of it. BTW who is going to London for DOR. (I would like to send you some hate mail), Just kidding.

Hold on....it is across the top of your player where File View Options Presets Sites Help are located.

It is a pulldown menu type item like you are looking at now on the top of your browser where is says File Edit View etc. Not a button.

If your Real Player is not in English, Presets is the fourth from the left, and the saving place is the first line when it unreels its menu.

I knew it. I just *Knew* it! We do get everything last in Hawaii. Tonight, after a lovely dinner out, we went shopping. There were Caroline-of-Monaco People issues all over the place. Loads of them. So, if anyone is still without, just let me know. My Email address here works. The one consolation is that hours after everyone's PC's and everything else has crashed on 1/1/00, ours will still be working!

Two thoughts have struck me recently seeing Colin in the flesh and in live interviews, and that is how well he is looking compared to how he looked in December and in the A&E interview. I have to say, and I would only say this to his friends, that his face was looking a little baggy in the film and in the A&E interview, but now it seems much firmer, he is slimmer and seems much younger and very happy and confident, it is amazing and I can't wait to see him in March in the "flesh" again. The other thing is that he seems to have a good relaltionship with Johm Maddan always joking and laughing with him as shown at the Berlin PC and the London Premiere, and he has said how he admires him as a Director (in the A&E interview) , that it would be wonderful if they could continue their collaboration by working together on the forthcoming Mary Queen of Scots, JM would be perfect to direct it for the BBC and I have always hoped that Colin would be offered a part in it, and hopefully a starring role this time.

(SusanMc) I guess they threw in BA because it's an American audience and he's a past Oscar winner (albeit for writing). And he apparently appeals to the younger audience segment who may be initially turned off by Shakespeare, IMO. BA brings them in so BA bumps CF. I saw the new ad yesterday. Pictures are different but those featured are the same going back to GG nominations. Colin's position in the credits hasn't changed because (I believe) billing is determined in the actor's contract (I remember Colin making a comment alluding to that in TEP). I also compensate for my frustration at his omission by noting the People article. As I said at 115, I'll settle for the subliminal approach! Thank you, thank you for the press conference (and other) links, Renate! Such an unexpected treat! Love his sense of humor!! He really broke them up. Yes, Ann, he does seem happy and confident but I thought that came through in the A&E interview too (once his nose stopped running). I fervently wish I could also see him in the flesh. Sigh. (LisaJH)Items to Pack for the 3DOR Trip LOL! Very productive way for you to sublimate your inability to go. I just pout :-p . I would also add: one (1) package of tissues (or large cloth hanky) to catch drool. May need more than 1 if reputed wet shirt scene is indeed included. So, Heide, do you know how to care for a man with a broken foot? He'd be rather a captive audience, I might add! Your friend truly knows you well!!

Thanks for all the links, plus LOL list Lisa, a veritable antidote to wet Mondays!!

SusanMc) I guess they threw in BA because it's an American audience and he's a past Oscar winner (albeit for writing). In an recent interview Harvey said he had to beg BA and RE to be in SIL. BA's "Good Will Hunting" produced the biggest box office revenue that Mira max has ever had. Both of these stars are recognizable and bankable worldwide.

Thanks Renate for the link. Unfortunately, it takes so long load and my husband has been around me all weekend, so no Colin for me. I'll try to read the transcript at Lisbeth's as you suggested AnnW, but it's not the same. I too noticed the new SIL ad. without him. I agree that they want the BA fans to see it.

I am sure you can still download it. Try! It is lovely to have his voice saying the words and his fantastic face smiling at you! BTW, did anyone succees in saving it on their Real Player other than me?

I tried to follow your instructions but don't seem to have been successful. It is possible that the free version of Real Player only allows the use of Presets as bookmarks.

Btw, what is the size of the saved file, Marcia?

The file is 20 KB plus a little. I asked my cyberson why I could not find the download(after convincing him I had all of my browsers offline). He says they are as streaming video and it just rewinds and plays what you have downloaded. If yours is like mine, when I download the file it somes in bits and pieces and stops freezing the picture and cutting off the sound. I looked again into my "REAL' files and there were about 15 files dated yesterday. It must have been the bits and pieces which it puts t gether to make the "movie". Once you have downloaded it and have your Real Player up, look in the File column, and it should be there. On mine it is. My version is 6.0.3.143 (Look in Help then About Real Player).

sorry for the mal-typing. Unfortunately I cannot tell which bits and pieces of the Real Player files belong to the press conference, as I downloaded severa; things yesterday.

My thanks as well for the link, Renate. It was wonderful to hear Colin's voice, even over my dinky little speakers. I thought Colin's response to the question re: whether he had accepted the part of Wessex to try to get away from the Darcy image was interesting. He said something to the effect that he had stopped thinking about Darcy as soon as he shot his last scene of P&P2. But in the '97 Vogue article, didn't he say he had felt haunted by Darcy, unlike with other parts he had played? Contradicting himself again. He obviously does not realize how we droolers hang on his every word.

Susan MC ...He said something to the effect that he had stopped thinking about Darcy as soon as he shot his last scene of P&P2. But in the '97 Vogue article, didn't he say he had felt haunted by Darcy, unlike with other parts he had played? What is it that Lizzie said to Jane when asked"But I thought you disliked Mr. Darcy"..."AT times like this it is unforgivable to have a good memory" ;-)

I want to thank you too, Renate. Great to hold the amplifier in my hand and feel the resonance of his voice... (Susan)Didn�t he say he had felt haunted by Darcy It�s interesting how eagerly he seems to be putting down the D role down again and again. After all, it WAS his biggest break ever and made him internationally known, not forgetting all the praise of critics, thousands of fans etc. It almost looks like ungratitude to me, and not very humble. So, there must be some pretty good reasons for his attitude, whatever they are.

I can think of much worse parts to be type-cast than Darcy. He does not protest about Playmaker! It must be because of his fondness for the part =P (Elena)Great to hold the amplifier in my hand and feel the resonance of his voice... Oh yesssss! As he was speaking during the initial download I came bounding into the room yelling "that's Him!" and rejoicing that I had the wonder of a permanent Colin voice file instead of just the short .wav files I have collected.

*^^&&#@$&^&% forgot the close italics bit. sorry!

this shall not be tolerated!!!!

He does not protest about Playmaker! Maybe I should see it, to gain some perspective.....it must be brilliant because he did once wish Playmaker to �sink without trace�!

(Marcia), He does not protest about Playmaker! It must be because of his fondness for the part. HA! The truth comes out!!! I haven't had the time to unload it yet, but I did read the transcript (such an impatient girl), Colin did seem more relaxed doing a group interview than a one on one. I would love to have seen the NY press conference with the whole cast. I wonder if he was able to get a word in. The questions were probably directed more to GP, BA, etc. I still have not been able to get a release date for FP. I'm starting to have my doubt of a US release at all.

The Three Deers! Your revised www.colinfirth.com site is ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! Have barely had time to skim through because of family members breathing down my neck ("You're not on the Internet again!") Great Berlin pics. Moon, I think FP has a May release.

Sneaked back on! Hey, Ann, your Premiere photos are TERRIFIC!! You're a professional. I'd not seen them before, and I'm very impressed. As to the winner of "The Most Handsome" award...no contest! He really looks v.cute. Is that Tom Wilkinson next to him. and are Simon Callow and Imelda Staunton small? I think GP and CF make a good (professional) couple....maybe Viola made a wise choice in Wessex after all! :-) And, coming in very late on that fascinating debate, I do think Livia looks enceinte..otherwise it's a rather odd choice of dress!

Thankyou Bethan, and what do you think of my idea for John Madden to direct Mary Queen of Scots, with Colin starring, of course.

Oh yes I.S is very short and she is a very funny lady. No offense to JF, but in real life Colin is much better looking and much smarter than JF, but then I am rather biased.

" Re: Playmaker...Actually in an interview he did refer to P. as a "piece of crap". (No one will disagree with him there) ***** New colinfirth.com "facelift "is terrific....as we say now...cool! Congrats. ******* Re: His attitude towards the role of Mr; Darcy..wanting to shake it etc. Someone posted this on the P&P Board: On this Valentine's Day, you may be interested in a non-scientific poll conducted by the Washington Post's weekly Book World. Readers were asked to name up to 5 favorite love stories. Over 400 readers responded, with P&P ranked first (and JA the only author with two works in the top group). . "But the most popular selection was by a writer who was almost unknown during her lifetime and whose sphere was the narrow world of an English clergyman's spinster daughter. Yet 181 years after her death, Jane Austen continues to beguile readers of very different backgrounds. Of Austen's _Pride and Prejudice_ one of our respondents ... wrote, "This, without doubt, is one of the greatest, most timeless love stories ever written ... the characters are so realistic that it is almost impossible not to identif them with someone in your life." ****** I don't think he has a chance of ever shaking this role....it's his link to immortality...he better give up!!

I am sorry to say that I was not in Berlin to see CF. I had so many problems to get tickets ( I have spend hours on the phone or internet and DID NOT GET the tickets ;-( ) And there were rumours that a lot of big stars like B.Willis and Colin Firth !!! would not come to Berlin ! So I didn t went to Berlin. Now I know that HE was there ;-(((((( I hope you are not angree with me that I didn t make it ! But I will be in London and I am looking forward meeting a lot of Firth-fans there !! SORRY !!!

Could someone please put up the URL for Ann's pics? At colinfirth.com, the premier pix link gave me Geocities mainpage with "could not find" message. (Evelyn)I don't think he has a chance of ever shaking this role....it's his link to immortality...he better give up!! He should be grateful and gracious about it. Perhaps it will come with age. He is still a little new at this business of being the fantasy-figure (for lack of a better term) for so many!

Sabine, do not worry about Berlin. The weather was probably rainy, he would have had to hurry in with his coat over his head to keep from getting wet, and you would not have seen him anyway. There, do you feel better?! You will get hours of uninterrupted staring at him in London. On Purpose! And no one will mind in the least! I envy your closeness to him. Enjoy! Then recall every nuance and post back here. We forgive all in pursuit of CF =)

Could someone please put up the URL for Ann's pics? At colinfirth.com, the premier pix link gave me Geocities mainpage with "could not find" message. Strange, Marcia, because that page is not even near Geocities anywhere, but on firth.com. I would recommend to try that link again. However, here it is: http://www.firth.com/prempic/annprem.htm BTW, I definitely cannot find any file on my disk that resembles the press conference. You see it's a hopeless case. :-) But thank you anyway. I have now written to them, will let you know if there's some interesting reply.

Sabine, I want to join Marcia: don't worry you couldn't be there. The tickets were sold out early, and you wouldn't have had any access to the press conference - you wouldn't even have know he was there! But I think there may be a chance to get another glimpse of him (in the media) the next weekend. SIL seems to be ranking very high with the critics, so perhaps there will be an award, and subsequently an award ceremony!

Oooh, thank you Renate! I was just adoring and getting moist over the last pic of AnnW's. It is not his face this time, but from the bac; all torque, long lean, agile grace. Ummmmmm!!!!! The one I had trouble with was the offsite one of the Premier in LA and NY. I could not find a place title with Premier Pix on colinfirth.com. I should have hunted harder. Thank you for your help. I hope you were able to save your Berlinale file. You do not have to have your browser up, but you do need to be online to rerun it. Somewhere, where I cannot collect it and send it to others, it exists and reappears each time I want it.

Sabine....you were the first to tell us that Colin would be at the Berlinale and you were so right. So you see..you started the ball rolling.And ended with Renate giving us the press conference URL.So we are indebted to you!! Roll on March the 6th!!

I don't think our DB is ungracious about his Darcy role - he never said it affected him negatively (did he?). I don't think saying the role haunted him is a rap on the character but more on the sensation he created and which he was unprepared at that time to take on. I do agree it sounds contradictory to what he said in Berlin. Still.... Love the way he says "palpably" in a sentence so naturally as he does at the Berlinale... " the Mr. Darcy image isn't clinging to me as palpably as others may think." After all, it was his brains that first attracted me. ;-) Also like that he got Hostages into the conversation. That's something you rarely hear him talk about. Of Austen's _Pride and Prejudice_ one of our respondents ... wrote, "This, without doubt, is one of the greatest, most timeless love stories ever written Thanks for the quote, Evelyn. I agree wholeheartedly that P&P is one of the most romantic stories ever. Felt it at age 13 and still agree almost 30 years later. (Marcia) all torque, long lean, agile grace. What a marvelous description. Let me second your UMMMMM!

(Heide)P&P is one of the most romantic stories ever. Felt it at age 13 and still agree almost 30 years later. Indeed it is. I fell in love with it at 14 (before all of you were born=P). That is what makes the Fan Fiction so special. It enlarges and prolongs a story we cannot bear to have end. Thank all of you for being so inspired from this avid reader of FanFic.

I love P & P too. I always imagined as a young girl reading it and imagining what Darcy would have looked like. I loved CF as Darcy. I would have loved Greg WIse as Wickham though.

I think it must have been an Italian suit, (it hung so well) he really looked gorgeous in it and I too love your description Marcia, couldn't have put it better. That evening seems like a dream now but my enduring impression of that evening is how slim, young and well Colin looked, and so smart, obviously Livia's influence.

Let us fervently pray that the"costume" for 3DOR, is the same league!! Although I doubt it. I have noticed that he favours black a lot, as in Berlin. Perhaps he should "have his colours done"! I wonder which season he would be? perhaps the lovely Livia will encourage him to be more adventurous and now he doesn't have to worry about dropping ash on clothes or them reeking of smoke. I thought your description of him perfect Ann. He looked so good take note Martin Clunes.

Let me join the others in my praise for the new look of colinfirth.com. Great job, 3 Deers! Your efforts are appreciated. Interesting discussion about Colin and the consistency of his responses regarding Darcy and otherwise. IMO he's got mixed feelings about the whole Darcy thing and his response depends on his mood. He's grateful for the recognition but wants some for his other work, too. I also find it interesting to note the conflict in other areas--take the casting of Wessex, for example. In some quotes he says he was happy to take on the bad guy role, that he doesn't always have to be the romantic lead, etc. yet in the A&E interview he says (and makes similar allusive comments at the press conference) that he would have preferred to play Shakespeare. Again, I think his answer depends on his mood or the circumstances in which the questions are asked. I'm immensely enjoying all these opportunties to see Colin as Colin but nonetheless it's the "public Colin" we're seeing, sound bites, out-of-context or incomplete quotes, edited interviews and all. He's in there somewhere, protecting his privacy. And P&P--didn't read it until 1997, after I saw the miniseries. Never heard of Darcy until Colin :-p !

BTW, the Donmar says the running time for 3DOR is approx 2hrs and 30mins. Which gives some of us about 5 hours of reporting back to do! Some of you Ladies are in for a treat (or not depending on our ability to remain calm and coherent). Heide says the script doesn't appear to be that long so I will check again. Maybe he takes off his shirt in slow slow motion!!

Can�t believe it, we�re back in P&P! Great, I do not think that anything about it will ever grow too old to discuss or admire. (Heide)...Darcy role - he never said it affected him negatively (did he?) In an interview by the Finnish ANNA magazine (and it seems to have been a real interview, not just a mishmash from other sources, with original pics too) in 1997, Colin said that the Darcy role did not contribute to his career in the sense that after Darcy he did get much more scripts to read than before but they were also a lot worse than before, for instance a lot of parts were offered in �silly� American tv-series etc. About the renewed www.colinfirth.com: I believe it is now (as it was before) the sort of site that he could be really proud of, and that he�ll probably admire his fans for it. Good colours, good layout, easy to find everything, no naivety.

.....5 hours of Colin?! The thought makes me dizzy. Btw, I haven�t noticed anywhere any info about the roles in 3DOR, I mean, which one is Colin�s? Hope it IS a 2,5 hours role (!!) but of course we cannot know in advance by the script how the play and the roles are treated eventually.

Elena, That cover picture of him on ANNA is my favorite in Darcy Guise but not from the film. I think it must have been a publlicity picture. It most assuredly is DDG (Drop Dead Gorgeous). I truly hope that he never again tries a foreign-to-him accent. The only times Olivier made me cringe was when he did. F I V E hours of Firth! I shall stock up on vitamins and other fortifiers to be ready for every second of that time. What fun! I am looking forward to it as much as if I were really going to be there....well, Almost!

(Lizza) Maybe he takes off his shirt in slow slow motion!! (Elena).....5 hours of Colin?! The thought makes me dizzy. I have a mental picture of all you lucky ladies watching these performances. However shall you restrain yourselves?

(Marcia)Thank all of you for being so inspired from this avid reader of FanFic. I never thought Fan Fic existed till I logged on Drool...only on the Internet. The stories are better than the published ones.I am v. grateful to all the gifted ladies who post on Drool. ( I don't read 'em on any other website...except Laura's "Olivia", a cute take-off on Bridget) ******** Colin said that the Darcy role did not contribute to his career in the sense that after Darcy he did get much more scripts to read than before but they were also a lot worse than before, He said the opposite on this side of the pond in VOGUE. Agree that it depends on his mood.I am just grateful that he took the role and portrayed Mr. Darcy so romantically .I don't care how he feel about it now.It's Done...and we're the richer for it.Wonder if he regrets it.......

I've been working on these files and reading the postings about the 3DOR expedition to darkest London. If those purportedly going do not come back with some tangible evidence, we shall be forced to conclude you set up this ruse to make us jealous and have gone off to Cleveland for the weekend.

and have gone off to Cleveland for the weekend. I'd rather go to Philadephia.

Marcia, what kind of evidence are you thinking about?

Just a snap of grinning droolers in front of the DonMar Theatre. Do NOT (Please!!) try to lop anything off our man. He will never trust us again! You need not even hold up "We Love You Colin" signs which I know you will be hiding in those loose jumpers you all will be wearing ;)

I chose Cleveland because it is like white bread. Nice, but not as excilting as Philadelphia. OK, do not attack me...Cleveland just popped into my head.

You guys that are set to see 3DOR are in for such a treat. Please try to refrain yourselves. Five hours of Colin. Makes me dizzy also.

Slightly off topic but Jennifer Ehle is being interviewed today on This Morning at 11.15am GMT, first time she has been interviewed on British TV since P&P first aired.

(Marcia) That cover picture of him on ANNA is my favorite Afraid it�s not a cover pic, he�s never been in a mag cover over here and what�s more, that article was the ONLY one about him that I�ve seen here (except for a small picture of him and Livia with a few lines in the same mag before they married). Just a snap of grinning droolers in front of the DonMar Theatre We really should persuade Colin to join us in that pic!! Seriously, sieging the stage door or any other stunt of that sort is out of question (at least for me it is) because I believe he wouldn�t appreciate it.

Hi everyone. I just booked my tickets to 3DORs for Friday and Saturday March 5 and 6. (I need 10 hours of CF) Can I come to the dinner on Saturday, March 6? Or is it too late. My seats are in the stalls is that bad? The guy at the Donmar ticket office says they are downstairs.

(Elena)We really should persuade Colin to join us in that pic!! Oh yes! Please try. You are a great deal braver than I, my dear, but it would be wonderful. (Jana)I need 10 hours of CF I understand completely. I did the same with Henry V and Olivier. The first time through you are so busy staring at him you do not pay much attention to what is going on around him. The second time, perhaps you will be able to tear your eyes away from time to time!

From this week's Newsweek: "When the director of Sundance fave 'Happy, Texas' sold his film to Miramax last month, he insisted on a contract clause: the studio must actually release the movie. Each year Miramax buys up to 10 films it never releases, or limits to one-week runs. Sutdio cochairman Harvey Weinstein 'gets distracted,' says the director of a flick he paid for then forgot about. All studios buy some films that don't cut it, but Miramax alone seems to bank on buying more than it can use. Weinstein grabs promising flic s (1998 Sundance Fave 'Jerry and Tom'), but if they test poorly they get shelved or go straight to video. Thus Weinstein backs only hits, crafting the rep of a Midas touch while playing to broad audiences. Miramax guards rights to films it won't release, so filmmakers watch work rot in storage, and you may miss out on some great noncommercial flicks." If I interpret this correctly, it is referring to films purchased from the Sundance Film Festival. But it got me thinking about MLSF...of course Miramax made that film, they didn't buy it. But after so many delays in its release, one has to wonder. (Wonder, not panic. Things have been going so well for Colin so far this year!)

Hi JanaC. The saga continues as to where and when we will be eating on Saturday. Lizza or I will notify everyone when it's determined and we'll certainly include you. I hope you'll continue posting. Such interesting discussions we've been having. Poor Colin. We're having this ongoing discussion on conflicting statements he makes and I have to remind myself that probably everyone does this. We just never notice because we could care less what any other actor says. Poor boy, we dissect and interpret every comment out of his mouth. Ah, but what do we live for? ;-)

It is like Nan told me when I was a newbie all those years ago. We have unclothed him, washed him, examined him, dried him, reclothed him, etc. There is little about him that misses our notice (or words to that effect.) Indeed, it is what we love for.

(Marcia) it is what we love for... Indeed... :-)

Arami-- I asked you some time ago about the deprived noncomputerized friends who like a People copy, and you gave no answer...have they got their satisfaction?? Or have they ain't got no...etc? Anybody want a 60-p. e-mail of the script of "Three days of Rain"? I've heard it has already got out, but just in case you haven't gotten your connections yet and have lots of paper, I can e-mail you the whole thing (I thought I saw KarenR can do it too...but more compactly!) I,m wishing everyone going a wonderful time and enough chutzpah to dare to send the complimentary messages to our DB without going over the line into making him "go to ground". He deserves to know how important and admired he is, and you all deserve to know that he appreciates it (and he does, ladies...he does...in spite of all the edging around...). And especially compliment him on his taste in wives!!

Sutdio cochairman Harvey Weinstein 'gets distracted,' says the director of a flick he paid for then forgot about. Distracted is hardly the word... I had dinner with a film industry friend two nights ago, and the topic of conversation fell on Weinstein. He's known in the industry to sit through screenings with a plate of chicken wings or some other meal on his lap, and the joke is, he chooses films based on how rarely he needs to shift butt cheeks over the course of a movie. Remember-- he's got the big bank account, no one said he had to know anything about films. I'm such a gossip...I've already broken that 1999 resolution. BTW-- I posted this on SiL spoilers: Tom Stoppard and Marc Norman are both signing copies of the SiL screenplay this Saturday in an L.A. bookstore.

Hats off to the *renovated* Firth site, 3 Deers.....Understated elegance, just like the DB himself. I am finding it very hard of late to keep up with my prolific fellow droolers... Loved the quote about P&P, Evelyn... And as for CF ever being able to shake off the mantle of Darcy...nevuh!!!!!

MLSF and Harvey....Harvey co-produced, and it cost Miramax $8milliion. Not a huge amount in Hollywood terms I know, but I think enough to guarantee that we see it. But Harvey must pick up a lot of very low-budget indies at Sundance and similar festivals in the hope of spotting a winner! I must admit I'm not very pro Harve at the moment....I've just seen the latest SIL poster (featuring everyone except CF) and it really made me wince! What sort of message does this convey? Hardly boosts CF's bankability...4th billing, but hey, who is this guy, drop him. I know it's related to the Oscar nominations, but I'm beginning to think that JD and GR are benefitting disproportionately (it was an ensemble piece) And BA isn't even well known in the UK, so promoting him here is inappropriate. GRRRRR!!! I've lost Ann's marvellous photos. Where are they, Ann... I thought I'd seen tnem at the new 3 Deers site. And, my final gripe (I promise, 1999 is my year of positive thinking!), why, when he was looking so darned handsome and well groomed, did NO-ONE feature him in any of the SIL news items, when we literally saw everyone else, right down to the Fast Show bloke. Who interviewed him? Well, we will never know. It jusr irks me that we never see him in the UK!!!!! Thw world's best kept secret. :-) Ann, I think John Madden would be an excellent choice to direct "Mary Queen of Scots". I still think Bothwell could be a terrific role, but I supppose a lot depends on the script, and the relative emphasis given to the characters.

Throwing positive thoughts out of the window....the new SIL advert is everywhere! (Unfortunately my job includes scanning through the daily newspapers). Sorry, it really, really bugs me...it's the height of discourtesy to leave out just one of the principal players, particularly in his home country. Do Miramax have an email address? By contrast, I was reading the reviews for "This Years Love" (JE's new movie). Good reviews. What struck me was how all six performances (it's an ensemble piece)were singled out for praise. It can be done, and I continuue to be surprised at how CF was nearly always omitted, when, for example Simon Callow or Tom Wilkinson were mentioned.If Colin got half the praise given to the "brilliant" Kathy Burke, I'd be happy!!! Well, just call me grumpy. Reading papers doesn't improve my temper.

Bethan, the photos are still at the 3Deers site, go to Specials or Berlinale and scroll down to the bottom - ...annprem/ and Jana, you lucky thing 4 performances and 10 hourse of our DB, you must hold the record, I am only going to two performances, can anyone top 4 performances?!!

Also Bethan, if it had been E. Macgregor appearing at the Donmar , and appearing on stage for the first time in five year, it would have been in all the papers, but Colin nothing even though it will probably be a sell-out and only because of Colin and all his fans.

I'm with you Bethan, and it is particularly discourteous and upsetting in view of the fact that he has done an awful lot of publicity and promotion for SIL, the only actor at the Berlin FF, the London Premiere, the LA and NY Premieres, and as you say to leave out just one of the principal players is very insulting and unfair. I too will write to Miramax. As I said before I am losing interest in SIL, especially as I was only interested in it in the first place because of Colin, am now looking forward to 3DOR and DQ.

I'm a real grump today! I must admit another thing that has been seriously annoying me is the fact that the Donmar are not advertising 3DOR in the papers. For those of you in the US, i must explain that nearly every daily paper carries a half page ad showing what's on and what will be on( and who is starring) in all West End theatres. The Donmar is ALWAYS listed. But since "Into the Woods" finished, the Donmar has, surprise, surprise, not been listed. So, for once, actually doing something constructive, I pnoned the Donmar and asked why they weren't advertising 3DOR for advance bookings. Reply was that "they didn't need to advertise as it had been extremely busy". It's the first time I've known a West End production not to be advertised...so I suppose this must be a compliment to CF! Put that in your pipe, Harvey, and smoke it! Some "stars" don't need promotion!

(Bethan)...Donmar...."they didn't need to advertise as it had been extremely busy". It's the first time I've known a West End production not to be advertised. I'm glad to hear that....Although I was thrilled that Jana was able to get tickets for 3DOR on short notice, I was surprised that the weekend would not been sold out by now. Where are the adoring UK fans? Maybe he'd be happy to know of "the minute, crucial unappreciatedInternet contingent."

Evelyn, I was surprised I got them too. But I've been beating myself in the head for weeks about whether I wanted to make the journey all the way from America. After all it's not everyday that you get to see your favorite actor in the flesh. I also got a copy of the seating arrangments for the theatre and my seats don't look too bad. Ann--sorry I was betting on each performance being 5 hours long. (Made a typo error) I only have tickets to two performances. So, is anyone else seeing it more than twice. The next two weeks will be totally useless ones because the excitement is killing me. And I have two papers to write for school. Yick!! Does anyone else feel this way--tell me I'm not alone, PLEASE!!

(bethan), Some "stars" don't need promotion! I believe that's what his agents must think. I wish he were more of a man and did something about it. He's starting to make me angry with his wimpy attitude. Wake up and smell the espresso Colin! He's got FP, MLSF and SLOW for G sake!

Firstly well done Bethan for telephoning the Donmar, its great news to hear that 3DOR has been busy and the other thing for someone who has been snubbed in the run up to the Oscars (for SIL I mean) he does seem in remarkably good spirits, perhaps he knows something we don't. Secondly two performances are better than none Jana, I look forward to meeting you in March and I agree I don't know how I am going to get through the next two weeks, I am having a bit of a problem with my mouth and throat at the mo ent and have this nightmare that I shall not be able to make it on the 6th, tell me I am being stupid, ever the pessimist.

Moon, what do yo mean his wimpy attitude is making you angry, in what way is he being wimpish?

Moon, what do you mean his wimpy attitude is making you angry, in what way is he being wimpish? I echo Ann's question. Here we have a man who made at least �3/4million last year for less than 3 months work. Who appears to have a happy personal life. Who is probably doing the work he wants to do. Why is that wimpish? It is sane. If he wanted to go for major Hollywood romantic leads, he would now have to be contemplating his first face-lift! (Bethan) the Donmar are not advertising 3DOR in the papers. I do not think the Donmar advertises that much. When I have been there in the past it has usually been via word of mouth recommendation rather than through press reports. They are a small venue with limited budget. I suspect we will hear something nearer the time. There is a review of the first two plays of the American import season in today's Evening Standard. The acting was generally praised but the reviewer did not seem to think the two plays were worth bringing all the way over the Atlantic. Lets hope 3DOR is better. It sounds more promising.

I believe he has to put more pressure on his agents so that when he gets the fourth billing in a film, he isn't omitted for the movie adv. When he takes a starring role after years of not doing theatre, there should be some promotion and adv. He has three old films which he should be knocking himself to make sure they come out. At this rate it will be video release(which is fine by me, I just want to see them!). And why not fight for the Mark Darcy role before it is taken.

(Moon)He has three old films which he should be knocking himself to make sure they come out. At this rate it will be video release (which is fine by me, I just want to see them!). I agree, If it is only in video I must may see them with the rest of the world. Otherwise , there is a very good chance that I might never see them. Out here.

What does he pay his agent for? Wasn't there talk that he has a new one? Well IMO they are not doing a very effective job.

WHOOPS I meant he/she, not they!!

I do not think the Donmar advertises that much (Allison) By "advertise", I just meant the very small ad that is included in the What's on in the West End Theatre section, and just gives booking/advance booking details and the name of the production and who is in it. The Donmar is always sandwiched between the Dominion and Drury Lane (I'm one of these boring people who reads the theatre ads!) But for some reason they are not advertising 3DOR, and I found that puzzling. They've always advertised their productions in the past. There must be a lot of people who are totally unaware that CF is doing theatre. Possibly there may be an interview next week, but it may well be that they'll just open...theatre gets far less publicity (unless you're Nicole Kidman!), and maybe he doesn't really want it. I echo Ann's question. Here we have a man who made at least �3/4million last year for less than 3 months work. Who appears to have a happy personal life. Who is probably doing the work he wants to do. Why is that wimpish? It is sane Have to agree. I really didn't like his non-inclusion in the SIL promotional ad, (ruined my breakfast!),and wished he'd been included in more reviews, but I don't honestly see what he could do about it. And probably this doesn't really bother him as much as it bothers me!! :-) I think he'll promote his upcoming movies very conscientiously, probably FP and MLSF in tandem....he's been more than co-operative in promoting SIL. And I continue to think that MD is a foregone conclusion for him, and he won't have to fight anyone for the role. AD's involvement makes it more of a certainty! And I agree that he's looking remarkably cheerful and happy with his life!

OK, OK, let's have happy thoughts for the weekend. Perhaps he *is* doing all these things and we just don't know about them. And if he isn't, I suppose it's his choice or there's some other good reason. Anyway...tick, tick, tick! The clock is moving for you London-bound lucky ladies! I've lost count, how many are going? How many countries will be represented? When do you think you might start posting news for us poor unfortunates back home?

I see Bethan and I have similar thoughts, posted nearly at the same time. I'm flying over to chat in case there's anyone lurking out there now.

What does he pay his agent for? Agents procure projects and negociate contracts...publicists do the actual publicity. I am thinking positively that 3 DOR contract was before the current agent. ***** I have just finished reading the play 3 DOR and don't see how they can stretch it out for 2 1/2 hours...unless there's a long intermission. And BTW, this is a very American play. If they change the locale...they will also have to change the dialog. ***** I can see where Moon is coming from...but,if everyone thinks his current status is satisfactory, why complain when he doesn't get starring roles? He's happy with his fourth billing...why shouldn't you be?

Yes I am sure he is happy with 4th billing but being omitted and replaced by BA, I wouldn't have thought so, still we will never know, its that that really bugs me okay I can see why the Oscar nominees are there but why BA and if BA why not Colin.

KJArt - I'm sorry, I didn't mean to ignore you! How dreadful of me! Your very kind offer appeared at the beginning of about 30 new messages, and by the time I finished reading them all, I was even more tired and bewildered than when I started... Anyway, my own and my friends' needs have been well satisfied. Many thanks once again.

(Ann)... its that that really bugs me okay I can see why the Oscar nominees are there but why BA and if BA why not Colin. Ann, BA is there because he is better known than Colin inasmuch as he won an Oscar for Best Screenplay and co-starred in "Good Will Hunting", which was also nominated for Best Picture.And was also the largest revenue -producing film for Miramax.Also Harvey had to beg him to take the role of Ned Allyn in SIL. Why Colin isn't there....I could not venture a guess. But I doubt it was a case of "either...or..."

Come, come, it was just a few weeks ago that we were elated with the coverage he was getting. Let's not get our feathers ruffled just because things have reverted to normal. It's certainly no worse than before and I'm convinced there are still good things in store. I like what Bethan said...we're more upset than he would be.

I am so happy for all the ladies that are going to London. I wish I was going also.

Oh Rita, I know!!! If they were not such special ladies I'd really not like them very much. However, aware as they are of our stay-at-home plight, they promised to look through all of our eyes for us and bring all they see back to us. What could be better than that...Other than bringing CF back for us to share. Let's see...how many ways would we have to split him?! Perhaps like in the Arabian Nights, we could each get a turn in rotation...to entertain him however he/we saw fit ;D

(Evelyn) I am thinking positively that 3 DOR contract was before the current agent. Do you mean that he has changed agents? (Eileen)When do you think you might start posting news for us poor unfortunates back home? I am beginning to think that watching the audience at 3DOR might be more fun than even watching CF. I think I am going to find to find it hard to drag my eyes away from Row A in the stalls :-) BTW. I have just caught up with the new look at firth.com. Congratulations to all those deers who have made such a good job of the new layout. Very stylish.

Finally, something about CF and 3DOR in the press. There's a report in the Daily Telegraph, with a nice pic of Colin (as Darcy). But it's the usual sensational inaccurate type of reporting that we can expect these days. Headline is "New theatre role makes Firth as sexy as a breezeblock". Goes on to say that CF is returning to the London theatre after six years absence, for �250 a week. But don't expect sex appeal or love interest. Quotes an insider, or someone, (male, I'll bet!!) as saying that Firth "pla s a Deep South weirdo with as much sex appeal as a breezeblock" (ie none!). Couldn't they have said something about a poignant study of a brother and sister dicovering their past, and mentioned the fact that it's two roles in one..Walker, the drifter, and Ned, the architect father, and that the play has received much acclaim in the US. Nope! I haven't read the script....is "weirdo" appropriate?

Donmar are still saying that timing is 2hrs and 30 mins and will not be able to confirm that before MARCH 1st!! Not a lot of communication re director, stage manager and box office. They must surely know before that, by final rehearsal? IMO CF is one of the few men who could be sexy as a "breezeblock", male perspective reporting from the Torygraph, again. So go on Brit Press, be as negative and snide as you like, you won't put us off.

Still as they say any publicity is better than no publicity, be it good or bad, (who says that!). and drat I usually get The Telegraph on a Saturday but this wek we bought The Times.

Deep South weirdo, I guess that means he will be doing an American deep South accent. I hope you ladies won't find that as distracting as I would, his voice in ATA I found most annoying. Has he changed agents? If he has then maybe someone from his camp has been reading our posts (heehee).

Oh no a deep south accent,that is a little disappointing and not to hear Colin's own lovely voice, and I have to say that the deep south American accent is not one of my favourites anyway, apologies to anyone from the deep south, you probably wouldn't like my Sussex by the sea accent either( England).

Ann, I�m positive that you will forget your disappointment about the American accent by just SEEING him there as close to you as he will be! Imagine, it�ll be only a few metres from row A!! But I�m sort of sure that you already have imagined..... My problem, on the other hand, is not of aesthetic nature but practical: I probably won�t understand the play without a script! The British accent is much easier to understand than the American, let alone the "deep south" one.

Do you mean that he has changed agents? Sorry... a typo error...mean't publicist. And that is conjecture too . But with all his personal apprearances and articles in the Brit press and PEOPLE,since the new year, some of think he has a new publicist. So again I say...IMO "I am thinking positively, that the contract with 3 DOR with no publicity was before the new publicist." ******* I read the play and I didn't think Ned was a southerner or a weirdo. An American, yes.( Does that make him a weirdo? :-) ) I think this will be a real challenge for him and think of it this way,.. it will show Hollywood that Kenneth Branagh isn't the only British actor that can speak in an American accent. It's a clever play....was on the short list for Pulitzer in 1993.

I'd take "Deep South" with a pinch of salt, given the level of accuracy we get from the press. I wonder, why Deep South? It's set in Manhattan. I thought an architect could be cultured Boston or some equivalent, and his son, even if a "drifter" wouldn't be "Deep South" surely, and would the two characters have the same accent? I have to add that I really know nothing about regional accents in the US. Is Bill Clinton "Deep South"?... I like his accent. PS Sex appeal is Colin Firth walking onto a stage. And if he looks like he did at the Berline, tnen breezeblocks are SEXY!

There is a radiant photograph of Colin and Livia on Meluchie's off screen pages. I shall try a link!!

Well that did not work! Let's try once more. C&LF picture

Southern accent or not the opportunity to see the man in the flesh, a few feet away, performing at the craft he's so darn good at is enough for me. People have begun questioning my logic about flying so far for so short a period just to see a play. So I had to come up with a better story. Now I tell them "Oh, I'm going over to see the sexist man in England." Shuts them up completely--until someone uttered Prince Charles. I had to whip out the pictures after that statement.

C&LF photograph If that doesn't work I shall give up posting links for ever!

What a great pic. So, they love him in Mexico too. Winter, is that the black necklace you described seeing on Livia while at the L.A. showing of SIL?

I don't get "southern" from the play either. Maybe it's been done in the past with a southern accent. I think mid-south accents are nice - soft and lilting like Virginians. But like the others, I'll take any accent as long as it's believable. I'm not worried about sex appeal either 'cause I figure it's going to be there whether it's meant to or not. The man just can't help it. And isn't there a scene where he's in bed? Clothed perhaps but he is with a woman (as opposed to a man ;-)). (I hope I didn't give too much away.) Lizza has come through with dinner reservations. Wonderful, persistent girl. I'll give those of you who are there on the 6th a heads-up soon.

(Allison)Congratulations to all those deers who have made such a good job of the new layout. Very stylish. All praise must go to Renate who designed and executed the new layout. Work is still in progress... and will continue for a long time... Bethan, that nice photo of Colin as Darcy - I hope we have seen it before...?

I have just called the Donmar (again) to get a ticket for a friend and now there are only 2 tickets left!! They are amazed at how well they have gone for the whole run considering the lack of publicity. Never underestimate the power of a wet shirted breezeblock, I say!!

Whoops I mean only 2 tickets for March 6th, not the whole run!!

London Timeout is running an article/review of the Donmar season in the next issue (Thursday 25th?)

Hey, that IS the necklace I was talking about! In fact, that's from the L.A. premiere. Those two are so cute-- beaming all the time. Livia, I think, has a contagious (but charming) smile.

I would love to see him in something other than grey or black!!

Bethan, that nice photo of Colin as Darcy - I hope we have seen it before...? (Arami) Oh yes, it's the still shot (face only) of him at the wedding ceremony when he's standing next to Lizzie looking very enamoured. Ann, you got the Times today. Now, did you read it? Properly? :-) Look at the Weekend section, page 19. "A Filmmaker brought to book". It's about Lord Puttnam and (I quote)..."And yes, Britain's best known film producer is still producing, just: My Life So Far, to be released in the spring, will be his last. The article describes his various involvements in good works, mainly in education, and mentions that he suffers from ME. But, hey, the SPRING! Does this mean that we get to see it first in the UK? The Puttnam connection will ensure a respectful coverage in the press. I'd watch the film if only to see him (CF!) in a kilt and jumping into the lake! And isn't there a scene where he's in bed? Clothed perhaps but he is with a woman (as opposed to a man ;-)). (I hope I didn't give too much away.) Oh well, that's quite enough thank you, to fire the imagination. Especially if you're sitting six feet away. And doesn't he get wet (well, dampish) and take off his sweater. Breezeblock, huh!! He should hire us as his publicists...we'd make sure that he got the right coverage! The Box Office wouldn't be able to cope with the demand!

(Winter)Those two are so cute-- The pictures of him and Livia always make me DESPERATE with jealousy, that�s the terrible fact even though I try to deny it. I�ve always felt practically unable to look at those shots. Wonder how you others manage to do it and comment the pics so happily....!!

Thanks Bethan, yes I did miss it and wouldn't it be wonderful if as well as 3DOR, DQ we should also get MLSF for th Spring, all this excitement is going to my head and I had visions of us getting MLSF next Christmas.

Wonder how you others manage to do it and comment the pics so happily....!! Poor Elena! Don't worry, I feel your pain too. That twinge of jealousy is still there with me, my dear, still there. hey-- Jonathan Firth (brother) is still single...

I know this is off topic but may be of some interest to P&P UK droolers, Jennifer Ehle is on Late Lunch Channel 4 on Wednesday 23rd Feb, at 6pm.,second time in a week that she has done a British TV interview now lets hope CF does one, too.

(Winter)Jonathan Firth (brother) is still single... Is there a worse Hell than lusting after your own brother-in-law?! If you cannot have the real thing, I do not think the "looks like" variety would satisfy. However, it is the 90's... Perhaps I am being too conservative.

Imagine, if you will, traipsing around the house in the summer, having just emerged from the pool. He will be in the tiniest of clothing (Speedos?!!!) and dripping wet. I just would not do. Not for these lusty ladies, I think =P

And Jonathan lives downstairs from Nick Hornby, can't be that difficult to find him;) I like Jonathan;)

(Laura) I like Jonathan;) Enough that you would not drool uncontrollably in our DB's presence?!

You, ladies, have an incredible talent for making one dream. I am all curiosity about 3DOR and will be anxiously awaiting your reports. Bethan, not only do I think we would do a fantastic publicity job for Colin, we would all be great co-starring with him in BJD. Renate, I have already sent an e-mail to 3deers, but, let me congratulate you for a job beautifully done, du bist wunderbar! I'll be off to LA on Monday to meet with Winter and Jana2. We we're going to cover the FP premiere but as you know it has been postponed.

Jonathan is Colin's Baby bro, I don't think he'd have a problem as we are close in age. And DB is married;)

I don't think he'd have a problem as we are close in age And what? CF is a doddering old man? ;-) Older or younger, I'd have a hard time keeping my eyes off those Speedos. Though frankly I think he's more of a baggy trunks kind of guy myself. (Oh, this poor man.) Jennifer Ehle is on Late Lunch Channel 4 on Wednesday 23rd Feb, at 6pm. Ann, any chance you could tape this? Evelyn is out of town and probably doesn't know this but I'm sure would love to see it.

(Heide) I think he's more of a baggy trunks kind of guy myself. (Oh, this poor man.) True...on both accounts, I think. You can tell when it is a slow day at 113. I tend to be more fanciful in my imaginings (and he is such g o o d imagining!)

I love to see C & LF together. But, like WInter I feel a little jealousy but then when you see how radiant they are you have to be happy for them. I am jealous of all of the people that are going to see CF in the flesh. Especially, Ann and Evelyn. THey have promised a blow by blow account of the entire evening. I am so looking forward to that.

I saw "You have got mail" with T.Hanks and M.Ryan yesterday. M.Ryan is the owner of a little book shop and guess which book she likes the most ?? Of course, P & P ! She tells T.Hanks about the book and he buys it and starts reading it. AND then it happens !!! He has the book in his hands and who is on the cover ??? YES, CF !! Please don t laugh at me, but I was so excited to see the P&P-book with CF on the cover. The film was very nice just like "Sleepless in Seattle". That all about my sudden unexpected "meeting" with CF. But I think that a lot of you have seen the movie already, haven t you ??

It has come to Hilo!!! SIL is playing at a tiny arts theater downtown. That is the good news. The bad news is a: when I told the other half of the household I had to see it, he remarked, "You, do, do you?" but not solicitiously; and b: there are flood warnings up and we are told to stay home today. Aaarrrrrrrrhg!!!!

Re: ACCENTS "CF plays a 'Deep-South Weirdo'..." Geez you guys will believe anything in print...Good thing you have Evelyn to keep you honest. Neither of Colin's characters is from the South...the only character, as far as I can tell is the mother in the 2nd half...and I think Elizabeth can handle an American dialect just fine. From a Variety article of Mar, 1997, speaking of the original production of the play in Costa Mesa, the running time is given as 2 hrs. 20 mins. There is to be a benefit performance of "The Blue Room" on Feb. 25 for the Donmar Warehouse with Nicole Kicman and Iain Glen. (Ent. Wkly)

Sabine, the only reason I'd go to see "You've Got Mail" is to see that scene you describe. It would give me a guilty little thrill too. But I think I'll wait for the video instead.

Also RE: 3DoR: I do not like it that in one of the scenes 2 characters are supposed to be sitting there talking and SMOKING111 No wonder these poor actor-type people can't kick the habit for long! I protest!! Also I'll repeat the offer to e-mail the play to anyone with a lot of paper...

Yes please Karen, I would love to receive the play and have masses of paper! Thanks a lot.

Thank you for offering again Karen. Could you please email me a copy of the play too.

Me too, please Karen. Many thanks! "CF plays a 'Deep-South Weirdo'..." Geez you guys will believe anything in print. (Karen) Usually it pays to believe the exact opposite! Drop-dead gorgeous, sexy etc. etc. I've posted this before, but in view of the fact that Colin is doing theatre, it bears repeating! I keep a notebook by the PC, and sometimes jot down notes to remind myself!! A couple of years ago I posted some comments by a friend of mine who had just seen Ralph Fiennes in "Ivanov" and had also seen CF in "Chatsky" in the same theatre about three years earlier. She said (consulting my notes!)that CF had "a very good stage presence" and a very distinctive voice. We discussed how actors can look different n stage and screen, and she said that RF looked much slighter in build on stage, whereas from what she remembered CF had appeared well-built and tall! I love to see C & LF together. But, like WInter I feel a little jealousy but then when you see how radiant they are you have to be happy for them. Most of us fell for CF as Darcy. I like to think he's capable of Darcy-like passion in real life! I do not like it that in one of the scenes 2 characters are supposed to be sitting there talking and SMOKING Aargh! The old enemy waiting to strike! Perhaps he can chew gum instead. Ann, is your email address working? I got message returned.

Hi Bethan, yes my email appears to ber working, have received some emails today, please try again.

The NY Times (Feb. 21, 1999) devoted nearly all its Arts and Leisure section to the so-called British Invasion of Broadway. There were lots of articles. I thought maybe, possibly there would be some mention and YES! There it was, in an article entitled Words to Prompt Disdain in London: New York Hit by Matt Wolf. The jist of the piece is how London critics and theatergoers tend to automatically dislike anything that was a hit in America (so be prepared, all 'LLL's [lucky London-bound ladies]). Well into the long article, it states "And yet, the two-way traffic continues. Richard Greenberg's 'Three Days of Rain,' seen at the Manhattan Theater Club in 1997, is now in rehearsals for a London debut on March 2 [? date] as part of a monthlong American Imports season at the nonprofit Donmar Warehouse. Colin Firth and Elizabeth McGovern head a starry cast. Lucy Davies, literary manager of the Donmar and producer of the American season, called plays like Mr. Greenberg's 'such an enormously unmi ed area.' [Emphasis added] It is rather benign, but it is a mention! Other imported plays are also cited ('When Pigs Fly' and 'Defending the Caveman') but their stars are not. HA. Apropos to the discussion about accents, the piece states that these latter two plays were "Anglicized to varying degrees so as to play down any New York pedigree..." Those of you who have read 3DOR note how New York it is. I have been wondering if CF would use a NY accent. Can you imagine what that would be like? Fuhgetibudit! The Times had another article about the difference in accents entitled The Coaches Speak: Accents R Us (or Ah Us, if you Like) which discussed the rise of dialect coache to help British actors sound American and vice-versa.

I had a great start to the day!!! Switched on T.V. and there lo and behold HE was, swimming in that pond and emerging dripping etc etc At first I thought it was a CF programme but of course NOT, silly me!! It was a school's programme on P&P. I couldn't help thinking that I would be this close to him (distance from TV) in less than 2 weeks. Has anyone else seen the copious coverage on Rufus Sewell? I am getting fed up with it!! He opens on 24th in Macbeth (previews) and he seems to be everywhere. So I am hoping that logically they will be interviewing our DB for release this time next week. O.K O.K O.K so I can dream!!

The reviews of the DONMAR season have been mixed so far, but of course all that will change next week. I was thinking that we ought to begin a "Wish List" for the D.D. ( Deprived Droolies). Tell us what you would like us to bring back from 3DOR for you. It will complement Lisa's excellent list of what to pack for the trip!! Any starters?

According to the distributor, Fever Pitch's newest release date is May 28th.

Could well tie in the with opening of MLSF, and perhaps CF will promote both at the same time.

I'll be a starter for the "Wish List" for DDs!!! I think it would be really nice to have a program from the performance! I'm pretty easy to please so that would do it for me!!!!:)

You shall certainly have a programme Stacey, it would be nice if it were autographed as well, but can't promise.

Reviews for the first two plays in the Donmar "American Imports" in The Times and Guardian. Quite reasonably good, I thought, especially "Morphic Resonance". "The play is boosted by a superb production by James Kerr. He gives the exchanges the speed of championship tennis...the cast all play with class in a buoyant comedy." There's praise for the acting and direction of the other play as well. Definitely set in the US...New York and Harlem. Isn't CF's sister a voice coach? Maybe he'll work with her! Re. Running time.. (Quote)"We entered the Donmar at 6.60pm and left 5 hours later" One of the plays is fairly short, but there must be an interval between the two shows. 2 1/2houre for 3DOR seems ok.

Just back from Londinium. Dropped into Donmar to make sure it was still standing. They have Drool cleaners at the ready, but apart from that there is no activity. I checked out local restaurants again. Belgo and the Neal St. restaurant are still standing, and the second is still quite expensive (50 quid a head, I reckon). There is another one, also serving drinks, next door to the Warehouse, just on its right. Can't remember what it's called, but you can prob. get a drink there after the show. Might attra t the man himself, but looks a bit too swish for a cast party. Overpriced but, sadly, most things are around Covent Garden these days. \ I must say, I have never seen the tag "New York Hit" as a deterrent in London. Quite the opposite, if anything. Projection, I think.

I'm keeping a serious eye on the papers this week in the hopes that CF will do one interview (yes, Lizza, Rufus Sewell is everywhere...!) But I just have a gut feeling that he'll keep it low-keyed. Hope I'm wrong...:-) But as the guy in the Box Office said..."they don't need to advertise". BTW, 6.60 should read 6.30!

Keepsake? I would simply love a sound file of his voice, with or without accent, but know that is illegal and would not want to get a fellow droolette in trouble. (But if there is a way....) So I'll settle for a group shot of all of you in front of the Donmar. Preferably with you-know-who, if opportunity presents!! And I second Stacey's claim for a program. Let us know how he's written up.

Ben, what WOULD be the most likely place for the Donmar cast to have a drink after the play??? ;-) (I know I know, don�t say it here, he could read it and keep away.....!)

Ben did you catch JE in her new film while in London? You have been silent on that score for a while! You will have to match our drooling, which is gathering pace, I am sure you can manage it!! Welcome back.

We must have that picture of our fortunate Droolers in front of the theater, and where ever else you can arrange to do it. Since we will be there with you in spirit, take lots of them. Then post ASAP. I started a legal discussion with the suggestion of the tiny voice-activated recorder, but I would love sound bites. Just let someone who can refrain from the almost-impossible reflex of coughing in the quiet moments when our DB is speaking have the recorder. ;)

Ben did you catch JE in her new film while in London? A firsthand report on Sophie and the dreadlocks, please! (and we won't believe you if you say you didn't see it!)

According to the distributor, Fever Pitch's newest release date is May 28th. I'm not sure whether to take this as good or bad news: this will be one week after the opening of "Phantom Menace" (Star Wars, pt. 1). Will people be much too distracted by the power of "The Force" to see FP, or will FP be a relative haven away from the hype of Phantom Menace?

A haven, Winter, a haven.

One hopes it will live up to its name and be a truly phantom menace.

(Bethan)I'm keeping a serious eye on the papers this week I shall keep the Evening Standard under close strutiny. There MUST be something in there surely??

Love all these posts. All this Colin news in so good. I just hope the scene where there is smoking doesn't affect him. I quit two years ago and believe me I have my days.

Having just defended London critics against charges of knee-jerk anti-Americanism, there was this morning a rather nasty little piece in the Torygraph about the Donmar series. However, having panned the first two shows for pretensiousness, self-regard and over-sentimentality, he did say... It may be that the third show, Three Days of Rain, will prove something special when it opens next month with Colin Firth and Elizabeth McGovern in the cast. So, there you are. BTW, I know you true believers have every confidence, but can one be sure of a convincing New York accent from Wor Col? He may be v. good at it, but I've never heard anything other than his own voice, and it is terribly hard to do these things well. Also, I did NOT manage to see the new JE film. I was only in London for a day, and had only one hour free from blasted work, during which time I walked from Mayfair to Westminster, via Earlham St. You see how dear all of you are to me? Anyway, I have every confidence, dreadlocks or not, that she will not be able to hide her angelic charm. I would spot her even if she were lying homeless under Waterloo Bridge. Finally, as to cast party spots, I cannot tell. When I was there, there was not so much in the area, and being a wee bairn, I had to be out of the theatre by 10 o'clock. I think they used to go to one of the pubs nearer the Opera House. I forgot to mention another new bar I noticed, this one at the Leicester Sq. end of Garrick St, opposite the club, but it is self-conciously "modern" again, and no doubt fearfully priced. Not a thesps' hangout.

I would spot her even if she were lying homeless under Waterloo Bridge. Oh he's got it bad! Ben, I believe there is no turning back for you.

Lizza, re: keepsakes -- I would dearly love to have that sweater he whips off, whether or not it's wet;-) Anyone sitting in the front row brave enough to grab it for me? Barring that, I'll settle for your blow-by-blow reports, which I hope will begin arriving as soon as the final curtain drops.

Having just defended London critics against charges of knee-jerk anti-Americanism, there was this morning a rather nasty little piece in the Torygraph about the Donmar series. I don't think their critic would be over-welcome on the other side of the Atlantic!! He sounds rather xenophobic! But he also wrote: "I must admit that large sections of the audience appeared to be having a ball during "Morphic Resonance"...I can only assume they were friends of the cast". Hmm..well, I can only assume that they were members of the general public who, unlike the critics, actually paid for their tickets. And I can also only assume that they were enjoying the show! It's all matter of taste. Obviously the Torygraph critic would have been more at home with a five hour version of "Peer Gynt". But critics do wield a lot of influence through expressing an individual viewpoint...I think that reviews should be based on volume of applause. Let the audience decide! Wot! No dreadlocks report, Ben. How disappointing! :-)

(SusanMC)I would dearly love to have that sweater he whips off, whether or not it's wet;-) Pop over to 113, Dear. I just brought that up.

Am going to see the Chicago production of 3DOR this weekend. It has gotten excellent reviews. Will be in the second row, so will be in an excellent position to compare the respective Ned/Walker's stage presence! ;-p

Oh Karen, you do your homework most thoroughly. Have you the lines memorized yet? Just don't do to CF what Churchill did to Olivier: sit in the front row and audibly mumble his lines along with him!

Could someone please tell me the running time for SIL. Thank you.

123 minutes.

Thank you all for your posting the time. It was for the "Why?" chromosome challenged half of the family. I just posted my thoughts on the movie on 115. Here I can tell you it was magnificent, funny, touching, and entirely stunning visually. Anyone seeing it who has seen Olivier's Henry V will note a similarity in their treatment of the oval theaters and posting of notices and general crowds. I am still dizzy with joy. Take your husband or male SO. They will love it and laugh knowingly at things tha will surprise you. Mine did. On 113 I claimed my Keepsake. I think this movie deserves its own Keepsake list. I adored this movie. I must own it.

CF interview in today's Guardian. Not much about the Donmar...mainly about working for refugees/asylum seekers. Now lives in Islington (next door to Hackney, Arsenal territory).

Now lives in Islington Oh, my God, Iknew that's where he would be. I always bump in to Islington friends in the supermarket I use (its half way between me and them). Stnad by for sightings! Actually if I did see him in the supermarket, I have to say I would draw the line at giving everyone a minute description of his shopping list. I think he would have a right to resent that sort of intrusion. CF interview in today's Guardian. Off to buy the Guardian.

Off to buy the Guardian. I hope you're impressed by my speed of response! I set off on the 7 Feb 2036, I wonder which year I have returned in. A typically earnest Guardian article. Picture of our DB looking scruffy (as I am sure he does in real life). It mentions 3DOR and SIL. Some selections "Firth has a taste for contradictions and a gift of empathy unusual in a profession so crowded with egos." "He likes to joke about how often people are disappointed when they come face to face with the bloke behind the breeches" The imaginative reach across the centuries to Shakespearean England is nothing compared to the new challenge Firth has set himself over the past year. His own privileged life of interesting work, steady relationship, a son, was punctured by the story of a young Nigerian asylum-seeker's treatment at the hands of the British authorities. Appalled by the stories of immigration officers' whimsical use of their powes and the dehumanising system that faces asylum seekers, he has begun to visit and woek for re ugees". It hten describes a charity performance evening of song cance and poetry in Winchester, of which he was the MC and his hopes that it might be performed again in London and Oxford. "But for London, it would need to be more polished and you'd need some real names; just me reading some poems is not exactly giong to pull in the crowds". As the article goes on "This is classic Firth, self-deprecating and cautious..." And what do you make of this?"The question on most peoples' lips each time Firth makes an appearance is not so much what he thinks, so much as which, of his co-stars, he is currently thinking about (he did after all have several well-publicised affairs with his leading ladies)" There is then a bit about the perils of stars taking up causes of which they know little (they do not accuse CF of this) and how when he was playing Judd, his own politics were not so different... "The far left may have been left behind with Judd, but his polite disappointment with Jack Straw's performance on the asylulm issue indicates he is unlikely to be available for Cool Brittania". Ooops, have to go. Back with more soon.

So I did travel back in time. Sorry about the tyoing, I did not have time to proof read it before I had to go. Not much left. "He may have a house in Islington, but he drinks Nescafe and travels by Tube" [what do people in Islington usually do? It's not that grand.] 3DOR "is a return to the thrilling unpredictability of the rehearsal rooms". He was attracted by the very short run. "I can't do long runs, because my son is in Los Angeles and I'lm committed to regular visits; besides I could hardly run my commuting lifestyle on a regular Donmar salary." It finishes "At heart , Firth is as much the unromantic realist as Lord Wessex. It's not a bad quality for someone intent on challenging the asylum laws." One other bit that we know about but which I thought was well expressed "he spent miserable years as the left out middle-class child in the secondary modern playground. They are years that have left scars of uncertainty and a shy disinclination for publicity." It is so much like the Guardian to refer to the fact that he is now married in an aside that he is now in a "steady relationship". Is it unPC now to refer to wife or husband? If am happy to send this article to anyone who would like it and could scan it. Karen or Renate?

Thanks for defying time travel, Allison, to share this most interesting interview with us. The content is different than anything we've seen before, is it not? Signs of our multifaceted, ever-evolving DB! The urge to help people must be in his genes, considering his family tree. And what do you make of this?"The question on most peoples' lips each time Firth makes an appearance is not so much what he thinks, so much as which, of his co-stars, he is currently thinking about (he did after all have several well-publicised affairs with his leading ladies)" Don't think that's the question on our lips. We seem to gravitate toward what he thinks. I would love to see the whole article.

Oh, my God, Iknew that's where he would be. Ditto! I feel like I'm psychic. When I read a few weeks ago that he had bought a house, I just thought "I bet it's in Islington". Not too far from his old haunts, not too grand, a Nick Hornby neighbourhood etc. A typically earnest Guardian article. Picture of our DB looking scruffy I also thought that if he did give an interview, it would be to the Guardian. (You see...I'm beginning to think like him!) The pic is an old one...it accompanied an article about the making of FP which was in the Guardian two or three years ago. Interesting stuff about the asylum seekers. I wonder if CF supports One World? They have an excellent website www.oneworld.org. I remember reading some recent reports in the press about Nigerian asylum seekers. They had been protesting about corruption and envionmental sabotage in Southern Nigeria, and had been brutally tortured. But their treatment in this country has been less than humane, and they have been kept indefinitely in a detention centre near Oxford. One of them protested about their treatment and has, I think , been given a prison sentence.

As a conscientious reader of newspapers, I also have to report a snip from the Times. (Something else to look for, Allison!) Joe Fiennes has said that he fell in love with GP, but as a boy, not a girl. He says that GP as a boy caused the men (in the cast?) to question their own sexuality (as presumably they fancied her more with a moustache). The Times says that this will not go down well at the Box Office! I'm paraphrasing madly here as I can't remember the exact quote. The Independent is a bit sniffy about the Donmar season..."Do we really need these American imports when we're sending so much good stuff to Broadway, blah, blah, blah". But praises the production of "Morphic Resonance"

Allison, I'm going to try to get the Guardian here and then put it up. Will check at Borders and Barnes & Noble today and tomorrow. If not, then you can send it, although the library here has the Guardian but many days later. I'll let you know. ************** (Elena) Colin said that...after Darcy he did get much more scripts to read than before but they were also a lot worse than before, for instance a lot of parts were offered in 'silly' American tv-series Hmmm, 'silly' American tv-series. Wonder which ones? ER has had quite a few Brits on beside Alex Kingston. (He hasn't played a doctor yet. I could see it.) Or perhaps he was being considered for the American version of Cracker, instead of Robert Pastorelli. ;-) (Elena) ...about the roles in 3DOR, I mean, which one is Colin's? Given the billing (Morrissey last), I expect (read: hope) Colin is playing the Walker/Ned character. Since you've probably finished reading the script, wouldn't you agree that part has MUCH more to offer to his audience of appreciative fans. Can anyone confirm this with the theater? (Winter) [Weinstein is] known in the industry to sit through screenings with a plate of chicken wings or some other meal on his lap, and the joke is, he chooses films based on how rarely he needs to shift butt cheeks over the course of a movie. Butt...we all know that liking movies is a gut thing. This story really fleshes out the expression! (Bethan) And BA isn't even well known in the UK, so promoting him here is inappropriate. GRRRRR!!! (AnnW) okay I can see why the Oscar nominees are there but why BA and if BA why not Colin. There may be method in their madness...BA has two (2) new films coming out; one with Sandra Bullock that is constantly being advertised on TV (name escapes me) and another with a huge cast of Gen-X stars called 200 Cigarettes. Dem guys don't do nuthin' for no reason! BTW, about two weeks ago posters went up for for Lock Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels and next week's Time Magazine has an article about it. Called it a "blockbuster" hit for the UK, having grossed $22 million. Attributed its ability to get an American distributor to Tom Cruise. (Ann) if it had been E. Macgregor appearing at the Donmar and appearing on stage for the first time in five years, it would have been in all the papers Yes, but that would've been because Ewan would have gotten out of bed in Act 2 stark naked and paraded across the stage. (That boy really likes to bare all - all the time!) Don't think Colin will do that. Tis a shame... Could be the Donmar's claim to fame, first Nicole, then Colin... (a little equal time for us ladies) (Moon) I wish he were more of a man and did something about it. He's starting to make me angry with his wimpy attitude. Wake up and smell the espresso Colin! What is he now? Chopped liver? I think he has woken up and smelled the expresso. That's why he's being so visible now and so totally adorable in all these interviews. Who knows what is going on behind the scenes relative to new parts. (Moon) And why not fight for the Mark Darcy role before it is taken. (Bethan) And I continue to think that MD is a foregone conclusion for him, and he won't have to fight anyone for the role. AD's involvement makes it more of a certainty! I'm not sure what comes first, but the BJD script may not have been accepted yet. Then they need a Bridget--the key role--then they will cast the others. And we haven't heard anything about a director either. Let's not lose our heads. BJD may be a long way from shooting. (Allison) If he wanted to go for major Hollywood romantic leads, he would now have to be contemplating his first face-lift! Ugh!! Well there was that extra skin above the ruff... But not all Hollywood romantic leads have taken that route. Harrison Ford, Sean Connery, Paul Newman and Robert Redford to name but a few have allowed themselves to age gracefully. (Bethan) Firth "plays a Deep South weirdo with as much sex appeal as a breezeblock" (ie none!) What the hell is a BREEZEBLOCK? Is Bill Clinton "Deep South"?... I like his accent. Nope, hillbilly gone to Yale and Oxford. For "deep south," think Scarlett O'Hara. (JanaC)People have begun questioning my logic about flying so far for so short a period just to see a play. ...and to be with other my literary friends from the internet. Sort-of an electronic table at the Algonquin. That usually does it. (JanaC) "Oh, I'm going over to see the sexist man in England." Shuts them up completely--until someone uttered Prince Charles. LOL!! Colin needs Prince Charles' publicist. (Lizza) Never underestimate the power of a wet shirted breezeblock, I say!! Shall we have this printed on some t-shirts? (just kidding)

The article is at the Guardian site on http://www.filmunlimited.co.uk/news/0224/firth.html. I expect (read: hope) Colin is playing the Walker/Ned character. Yes, he is. In the article he says he is also playing his character's father.

Thanks for the link, Allison. Where on earth did they get that picture? Did a quick scan of the article, and it doesn't mention the character's name. The other dual part (Pip/Theo) is also a father-son combo. I'm sure with his billing he has to be Walker/Ned rather than Pip/Theo.

The clock is ticking.... I am full of admiration for all the Donmar-bound Firthettes. Great adventurousness. I also have a v. nerdy question that betrays a shocking ignorance. I feel my full participation in Drool's conversation is hindered by my inability to quote bits from others' messages. Can someone stop laughing long enough to tell me how it's done?

Help! i just wrote a reply to Ben and got an "Internal Server Error" for the second time.

I shall try again. Ben ... highlight the bit of text you want to refer to. Go to EDIT and copy it. In the body of your message type left pointy bracket i right pointy bracket. then copy the text. Finish with left pointy bracket /i right pointy bracket. Where left pointy bracket is . It sounds as clear as mud as I reread it but I hope your will be able to decypher it.

So, here goes...my three-quarter turn jacknife, with pike, into the information age (degree of difficulty for normal person 0.1, for me, 5.9) It sounds as clear as mud as I reread it but I hope your will be able to decypher it. Drum roll please, Mr Music.....

Unless I missed it altogether, no one has answered the Breezeblock question. Breeze is the material left over from the coking process and is used to reinforce concrete. Breezeblocks must be another form of a cinder block. Not very exciting at all! Ben, I'll give it a go. None of us were born knowing these things. first you bracket what you are quoting with html tags <> with an i inbetween. at the end of what you are quoting you put the same <> but with /i inbetween. To get the quoted passage you highlight with your mouse, hit control+c then bring the curser down to the html-prepared place and hit control+v. Your quote will show up there. do not forget to put the closing <> with the /i inside of it or everything will be in italics. If this is ot sufficient, ask questions and I will give it another go.

YES! Just call me Ben "Gates" Broadbent! I have of course infected the entire board with italics and ruined it for everyone but I DON'T CARE - I've just quoted something!!!

I'm paraphrasing madly here as I can't remember the exact quote. Just to prove that I do not only take the Daily Mail! Like those old advertisements targeted at the "thinking women who usually read the Times"...""every woman needs her Daily Mail"..., we also take the Times.... To quote.... "During filming of SIL, JF fell for GP - dressed as a boy:"She made a lot of guys doubt their sexuality. I love that confusion of love". I fear the admission is called bad box office."

Personally I love italics!!

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Thanks for the link, Allison! I echo my earlier sentiments about this article. V. interesting. Glad to see he's getting some press over there; thanks again for calling it to our attention on this side of the pond. Ben, you might consider consulting Ann's HTML tutuorial. Renate thoughtfully included it at colinfirth.com. Don't worry about the italics. Haven't we all done that at least once? (Karen) Ewan would have gotten out of bed in Act 2 stark naked and paraded across the stage. LOL! BTW, doesn't Iain what's-his-name (Nicole's co-star) cartwheel naked across the stage in 'Blue room?' Now there's food for thought!!

It hten describes a charity performance evening of song cance and poetry in Winchester, of which he was the MC and his hopes that it might be performed again in London and Oxford. "But for London, it would need to be more polished and you'd need some real names; just me reading some poems is not exactly giong to pull in the crowds". HA! Oh, boy, what, do you think, brings us the long way from Germany, and Finland, and Portugal, and the US, to the Donmar?!! -------- Ben, if you want to find out more about "html" go to "Ann's Tag Tutorial" on http://www.firth.com/afirthionado/afi.htm , then scroll down. or take the direct way..... http://www.spring.net/~anneh/toota.html

I'm glas you guys have KarenRto put the brakes on all these wild speculations/assumptions about BJD. At the moment, the only degree of connection is a character named named "Darcy" and HF's wishful thinking. When we have something more concrete, THEN we can start the wild fantasizing ourselves!! RE; Guardian article. If Ms. Victoria Brittain is ignorant of the marital status of her subject, then she's not much of a journalist. If she IS aware, but calls it a "steady relationship"...I'm sorry, that don't cut it. It merely sets the stage for that snide and suggestive "question" RE: "leading ladies" later in the article, which puts the whole thing into tabloid territory pretty solidly IMO. Yesterday, I pulled out of the Seattle Times database, from Sept. 10 (quiz: What is the significance of that date?? Time's up!) 1989, an article much excerpted elsewhere, but discussed how making APT. 0 moved him to join Amnesty International upon returning to England. So this Refugee Program is not a new trend. Proud of you, DB!!

Renate, I LOL'd when I read that line ('just me reading some poems is not exactly going to pull in any crowds') If he only knew that we'd fly thousands of miles to hear him read from the phonebook!! Especially if he were wet-shirted! Doesn't he know how little it would take? Actually, I found the article somewhat pathetic and except for explaining a cause he believes in, I would be disgusted if I were CF for the amount of space devoted to his Darcy role, the wet thing, and his prior (I would hope) propensity to become romantically involved with his fellow actors. Then all the inaccuracies: is young Will getting younger? shouldn't she have mentioned that our wet and heaving rake is now married and comfortably settled down? Yes, this Victoria Brittain is probably as awed by him as, say, Helen Fielding was, but come on... I can now understand his problems with the press. About the only thing I liked was: "As the cuckolded officer in the Oscar-winning The English Patient, he was roundly criticised by one writer for making it impossible to believe that any woman could leave him for the spindly Ralph Fiennes." The only thing I would have changed is: "the lizard-eyed and pencil-legged Ralph Fiennes!" Amen. Hey, Winter, you're going to have cruise much more frequently through SM if he goes to LA on any sort of regular schedule. (KJArt)wild speculations/assumptions about BJD Isn't that why we're here? ;-)

Allison, thanks for the Guardian link. Very interesting! I must say I felt bad somehow when I read earlier about that amount of money he was said to make in a year (reliable source?) because sums like that can make people lose their touch to reality. Wanting to work for something other than his own luxury life looks good....I really want to believe he�s in earnest. (Karen)Who knows what is going on behind the scenes relative to new parts. Exactly, I�m pretty sure that a lot is happening (in case he�s not planning to go into politics next! What a horrible and unerotic thought). (Karen) If he only knew that we'd fly thousands of miles to hear him read from the phonebook!! YES! Oh, sometimes I really wish he�d bother to visit here at Drool and finally understand some facts about his own attractiveness.

Another FirthAlert! Long article and new photo of CF in today's Daily Telegraph. I don't know if there's an electronic link, but I have two copies and could send one for scanning...3Deers? I like the photo...although he was apparently slightly reluctant to have it taken. He'd been fixing his stereo speaker on the wall, and it had fallen and hit him on the head. So he has (apparently) a lump on his forehead and a cut on his nose. Couldn't see these, but he seems to have a bruised cheekbone. Oh dear! Not a handy man! I think the interviewer takes a few side-swipes at him. Not my favourite paper! When interviewed, he was still living in his Hackney flat (bought in 1984) but was about to move. Still drives an old (12 years) Nissan. So, does not have a lavish lifestyle...not at all! Have to make tea for hungry family. Will post excerpts (and my comments) later!

I�m thinking about the play rehearsals at Donmar continuously. Colin must be spending hours there every day by now. It really must be thrilling for him to return to theatre after so many years of movies. And to hear that the tickets are going so well.....the atmosphere a few days before the first night is something, you know, you�re building up this illusionary world in the theater and there are moments when you feel it�s all going to just collapse and at times you�re full of crazy confidence. No wonder that you easily fall in love with those people you work with as intensely as that. The play seems pretty boring to me as a script and I�m trying hard to imagine how it�s possible to be make it work on stage! (No doubt it�ll work for us though!!!!)

Maybe this should be for 115, but I seem to remember someone wanting an extensive cast list for SiL. Check this out, then there is a "more" link: http://us.imdb.com/Title?Shakespeare+in+Love+(1998)

(KJArt)Maybe this should be for 115, but I seem to remember someone wanting an extensive cast list for SiL. Check this out, then there is a "more" link Thank you, Dear. That would be me. Am going there directly!

From BJD Days, the Telegraph is at: www.telegraph.co.uk Will check to see if article is at the electronic Telegraph next. Our boy does have a new publicist. All this press is incredible...and desirable. Since the play opens on March 1, will reviews be printed the next day. Think we are going to need some stockpiling of newspapers for all of us weekend arrivals. Would hate to miss out. ************* Ben, Ben, Ben, you are certainly dangerous with pointy things. While there is a certain euphoria attached to having mastered HTML italics, there's more satisfaction in having done one's job well and finishing things off. ;-) (A lesson to all men!) Thank you, Marcia, for the bleezeblock definition. Passing a construction site will conjure up all sorts of new images for me!

should have added the http part http://www.telegraph.co.uk You will need to register though.

Hello everyone. I somehow feel very guilty that it has been nearly a week since I last posted. I am currently kicking myself, as a friend of mine who works for an airline told me yesterday that if he had known sooner about CF's play, he would have flown me over on a buddy pass for the weekend..... Can you imagine my despair? On a cheerier note, I am glad that MarciaH defined breezeblock. My bizarre imagination thought it could have been a(n) urinal cake! (a recent reference on "Frasier"). My horizons are broadened weekly at Drool!

Couldn't find anything at the Electronic Telegraph, boo hiss! There were reviews of the 3DOR production here in Chicago. The actor who is playing the Walker/Ned combo is getting raves. (Tribune) "But the revelation of the production is Letts' contrasting portrayals of the eccentric, free-wheeling Walker in the first act and the tense, stuttering Ned in the second. Letts already has proven himself a promising playwright with his "Killer Joe," but nothing in his acting career thus far had suggested he is capable of the extraordinary emotional power and technical control he brings to this performance." (Sun-Times) "Letts, whose play 'Killer Joe' has become a long-running Off-Broadway hit, is an actor of such blistering intensity that you can almsot feel the blood surging between his heart and his brain." Oohh, I can't wait to see Colin's interpretation of the character!

Extracts from Telegraph.. He's asked how Livia has adjusted to London... Firth has a deeper empathy than most for her predicament.. "She misses the small talk and verbal shorthand...When you are away from home it's the trivialities you long for. You can talk about the big issues anywhere, but you have to be very familiar with a language and a culture to take part in the chit-chat" Firth is not what you might call a chit-chatty person. Definitely more a big issues sort; a fulminating over-the-newspapers-at-breakfast type, whose toast probably goes cold as he rails at the iniquities of the world. It is entirely in keeping that he should recently have become an ardent defender of asylum speakers in Britain. Indeed as he launches into an earnest explanation of his views, I find myself imagining that, however lacking in gossip Livia may be, her human rights vocabulay must be up to UN interpreter level by now. (Huh! Livia may well share his interest, and I bet she'd rather have a husband who can talk seriously on issues, than someone who just blathers on about themselves or how much money they earn, or whatever. And why doesn't the (female) journalist actually tell us what his views are, as he's obviously gone to so much trouble to explain them?) Will continue..there's too much for my slow typing! Must check the Electronic Telegraph. BTW, he mentions being at school (Junior High) in St Louis. He must have been about 12-13 at the time. He found it very tough and streetwise ,whereas he "was still into train sets". Found himself often having fist fights. Didn't like it very much!

Thanks for sharing, Bethan. From Karen's post it looks like the article's not up at the Electronic Telegraph. More, please, as your time and typing permit! I'm finding all this political consciousness news to me about Colin (and I thought I was pretty well-read on the subject). Guess I never saw the '89 article KJArt referred to. Evelyn's right, IMO. He must have either a new pulicist or a new attitude toward publicity. I'm getting used to the personal details being wrong, so that doesn't bother me (though I agree with all who question the 'steady relationship' bit in the Guardian article. Duh-h). And in this new article he even spoke about Livia? I thought he considered the topic taboo!

Another mention this time in tonight's Evening Standard , EMcG says "the play is complicated in Act 1 she is the sister of Colin Firth and in Act 2 she is his wife? I have not read the screenplay does this make sense and does it mean Colin is indeed playing Walker. There does seem to be quite a buzz about this play, do hope it gets good reviews.

In case any of you are avoiding 115 because you have not seen SIL as yet, think about going there to learn about what you are going to see and what is going to be taking place. It did not spoil it for me. Rather, I found that I did not waste precious brain-power wondering what the author was saying, and spent my time in there more agreeably...watching for Wessex. It is such a charming and witty movie you will need to see it several times to gather it all in ("What? no dogs?!")I recommend you go in a do a little homework before you go, unless you like to be entirely clueless before you see it for the first time.