Colin Firth (Part 10)

Regarding accents, it has always seemed to me that some Americans (from the South) are a little better at English accents and English actors are a little better at deep Southern accents, due to the de-emphasis of both on the "r" sound. However, as far as the generic "American" accent goes (i.e., the ones who pronounce their "r's"), I've noticed over the years that the mistake most English actors make is going overboard on the hard "r" sound (or whatever it is called). In other words, they overpronounce it. I recently saw a film called "Judas Kiss", which starred Alan Rickman and Emma Thompson. Much as I love both of them, their accents were not totally convincing. Rickman came off a little better because he was doing a "southern" accent. But every now and then he would come out with an "rrrrrr" sound (like "harrrd"). I've never heard anyone from the U.S. who actually pronounces r's that way. Emma, bless her heart, tried very hard, but did not sound at all "natural" to me. However, I must admit they sounded as good as the non-Southern American actors whose Southern accents varied from poor to fair. I guess my point is that not everyone is good at accents, and some American accents are easier than others. Something I noticed recently when I re-watched "A Thousand Acres" was that CF's accent reminded me a lot of someone, but I couldn't decide who. It took me a while to figure it out, and it finally came to me--he sounded like Johnny Carson (a native Iowan). Although I've never read the book, presumably it is set in Iowa or some nearby state, so whoever coached CF did an excellent job. The only trouble was, I love CF's English accent so much that hearing something else coming out of his mouth caused a kind of harmonic dissonance in the auditory centers of my brain. It was like he was being dubbed. Of course it's possible that someone from Iowa would disagree with me, but I found his accent quite good. And the visuals were not bad, either.

I guess MOB will have to be put on hold as Annova reports that Catherine McCormack is to take over from Nicole Kidman in the erotic thriller The Cut opposit Geoffrey Rush.

(LouiseJ)I've noticed over the years that the mistake most English actors make is going overboard on the hard "r" sound Yes, I think that Colin does that, too. Perhaps it's because the British accent generally drops so much of the r sound (except if you're from Cornwall), causing them to overcompensate. I found the overpronounced r a bit distracting when I saw 1000 Acres. And he used the same accent in 3DOR. I can't wait for Hamlet, when (I assume) he'll be using his own accent.

Spending another productive day at work, I noticed the two items on eonline that were amusing. I have been reading through the old posts since finding this place, so the little piece of fan fiction that the first item relates to is fresh in my mind, but probably 3 years old for regular posters "Assante has been working on a stage version of the life of Paul Gauguin, focusing on the years the 19th-century French painter spent in Tahiti. He hopes to follow up the play with a big-screen biopic about the artist." The next item on the page was about Meg Tilly Tilly gave up her career for marriage and motherhood after tying the knot with Sony Pictures chieftain John Calley in 1995. She has two teenage children by her ex-husband, producer Tim Zinnemann, and a 10-year-old son by actor Colin Firth. Tilly, who starred in such pictures as The Big Chill and Agnes of God, has made it clear: "For me, family comes first." I know that for people who have never come across drool fan fiction, the first item has nothing to do with Colin Firth, but I thought it was a funny coincidence to have those two items on the same page of gossip...i wasn't even looking for a firth fix Shannon (forgot to post my name previously)

some assorted questions from a dim-bulb latecomer: 1) is Conspiracy being shown in the UK or have I missed it completely? all I can find is press for HBO 2) in a similar vein, what's the score with Londinium re UK viewings? 3) just watched SLOW for the third time in 3 days *sigh* then read the "Bucket" notes on the film (top site BTW) where it says that Matthew has had a heart attack whilst up to naughty stuff with someone elses wife, hence he is in South of France to recover/hide out - how do you know? where is this in the film? When Rev. Fola reads out from the newspaper its clear that Matthew is a bit of a dodgy character re other people's wives, and when he is found outside Nimi's house someone says "it says in the paper its his heart" but I must've missed the MI bit 4) entering a comp to try and win a DVD player to benefit from all the potential BJD extras - wish me luck - party at my house if I win!!!

Here's the place to vote on ET online: http://www.etonline.com/html/page_meter/hff2001/

I just voted. So far, so good. CF is leading with 36% of the vote, RZ is also ahead with 42%, and BJD has the lead with 33%!

I just voted, too. Colin is up to 38%. It says that only your first vote counts. Next time I visit my father, I'll vote on his computer, too. Hmm, who else do I know who'll let me "borrow" his/her computer for a few minutes???

Up to 48% now. Gotta love a committed fanbase. :) In my recent CF completist mode (I blame y'all), I rented A Thousand Acres and watched it last night. Wow, what an intense story. Has anyone read the book? Jess was an interesting character; in a way, the least developed of any of the main-ish characters. You don't get a real sense of why he does anything he does, which is frustrating. I thought CF did pretty well w/ an American accent, but it sounded weirdly flat and not very Iowan to my midwestern ears. But all the possible faults of this movie aside, the scenes w/ CF in nice tight jeans make it all worthwhile. ;) I didn't see any archived discussions of ATA at firth.com - would anyone else be interested in discussing it in detail?

I guess MOB will have to be put on hold as Annova reports that Catherine McCormack is to take over from Nicole Kidman in the erotic thriller The Cut opposite Geoffrey Rush. The Cut isn't going to be filmed until the winter, and datesare still tentative. I'm sure MOB will go ahead. Up to 48% now. Gotta love a committed fanbase. :) I voted (it's about time he actually won something, enough of all this " the under-rated Colin Firth" stuff) and it was 47% - so voting does count! She has two teenage children by her ex-husband, producer Tim Zinnemann, Are Meg Tilly's children the grandchildren of Fred Zinneman ("High Noon" "From here to Eternity" "Day of the Jackal" "A Man for all Seasons" etc)? Possibly *the* greatest Hollywood director. MLSF is still showing on "Front Row" cable TV - gets a very good review as well, "delightful", "charming". Rachel, I also like SLOW! Conspiracy and Londinium haven't been shown in the UK. I would expect that the BBC will show Conspiracy sometime. Londinium seems to have completely disappeared....which I find disappointing, in view of the absolute tosh (unknown Brit actors, dreadful reviews) that gets released every week. The cast of CF,IJ, Stephen Fry and Jack Dee is a good one (in the UK context). Oh well, ...:-( There was a very large spreadof photos (a continuation of the Daily Mail theme) of CF in Now magazine a few weeks ago. Also a mention of "Hamlet"...CF has told friends that he "misses appearing live on stage". I also think CF will be aware of the "competition" in Hamlet and the inevitable close scrutiny of our unkind critics, and will not have undertaken this lightly - it's not a vanity project. He'll be very well prepared. Dr Zhivago - I know this is TV, but I like the format - 2 100 minute films (not a series) at �10 million - �5million per TV film...comparable to MLSF, and way over the budgets for SLOW, RV and FP!!!

Just voted - Colin well in the lead! I love ATA too, both book and film, and would be happy to discuss both. The book gives a much better sense of Jess's motivations, IMO, and his background is explained more, whereas in the film he just appears and floats about without much explanation. Not that I have any complaints about watching Colin float about in jeans - should've stuck to the book description for his run tho - go check it out! Glad I'm not the only recent completist round here!

from today's paper: Fever Pitch will be shown on FilmFour next Saturday at 8pm - blurb "An Arsenal supporter falls for a non-football fan" well if that isn't minimalist I don't know what is! Part of their Capital Cinema season, films about London. Also "Hornby and Thompson team up for comedy on career girl's blues": Nick Hornby, the novelist famous for portraying the obsessions of British male culture, is writing a film about the dilemmas of a successful career woman. His co-author is the actress Emma Thompson who may also play the leading role. In the film Fast Forward, Lara, a thirty-something TV executive, is confronted with the choices facing millions of women torn between married motherhood and a career, after she sees a video of her future. From the Sunday Times - will type up the rest if anyone wants me to! Wonder if Lara will have a love interest? hmmmm wonder if Nick Hornby's Arsenal supporting actor friend might play it ;-)

(Rachael) he is in South of France to recover/hide out - how do you know? where is this in the film?... No, you didn't miss all these things. They were probably cut out. The production notes were written long before this movie came out and it underwent lots of editing. **Have located the cookie file for the ET voting and deleted it. But so far am still unable to revote. However, if you have both Netscape and Internet Explorer, you can vote with both of those...at least once! (Laura T) I didn't see any archived discussions of ATA at firth.com - would anyone else be interested in discussing it in detail? Actually, it was done but I haven't gotten around to editing it yet.

BTW, have you all seen the front page link on ET to vote for the awards? A little biased! There's an animated image showing the award logo plus Nicole Kidman and Johnny Depp! Pathetic...

I just voted and it said 46% for CF and RZ. It said 43% for BJD. All three are well in the lead! Very exciting! Thanks, Karen for the link. (rachael)hmmmm wonder if Nick Hornby's Arsenal supporting actor friend might play it ;-) I don't think CF is much of an Arsenal or football fan, only his character in FP (I read that in one of the articles on him), but I would love to see him in a male leading role like that, too ;-)! Most of Emma Thompson's stuff plays in the UK as well as the US, so it would be easy to view and review ;-). --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lora, I thought I'd read somewhere that although CF isn't a mad keen footie fan he's been persuaded by NH to go to Arsenal games sometimes. Could be wrong, could just be some dreamt up newspaper blurb.

C.F. 55% R.Z. 55% BJD 54%

(KarenR)Actually, [discussion of ATA] was done but I haven't gotten around to editing it yet. Cool; I look forward to reading it when it's up. Rachael, I'll look for the book version at the library when I get a chance.

C.F. 55% WOW! This is wonderful, but a bit scary, too. Such a strong lead so early could spur voting by fans of the others. Must watch the numbers, and if he's slippng, go to friends houses and use their computers to vote extra times!

CF now 49%. Keep voting.

It would appear that Ewan MacGregor's fans are starting to make themselves known...and Colin's lead will quickly dissipate. Remember, guys, you can vote twice if you open another browser. Deleting that cookie didn't seem to help. Need some technical know-how here.

Deleting that cookie didn't seem to help Remember to empty your recycle bin.:-) Are Meg Tilly's children the grandchildren of Fred Zinneman ("High Noon" "From here to Eternity" "Day of the Jackal" "A Man for all Seasons" etc)? Possibly *the* greatest Hollywood director. Yes they are. Tim Zinnemann, Meg's ex-husband, is Fred's son.

KarenR: Deleting that cookie didn't seem to help. Need some technical know-how here. Well, I don't know how technical this is, but try this: 1. On Internet Explorer, select Tools, Internet Options, Delete Files, OK This should delete most of your temporary internet files. 2. Then select Tools, Internet Options, Settings, View Files 3. Select Edit, Select all, File, Delete This clears out the "stubborn" temporary files. When I did this, I was able to go back to the site and reach the "vote" section again. I'm not sure if it counted my second vote, but I believe it did. You might also get rid of your "history" files before casting another vote: Select Tools, Internet Options, Clear History, OK Assuming they haven't figured out a way to identify you without cookies, etc. I think this should work.

Karen, how many cookies did you delete? ET online is VERY sneaky. They put TWO cookies into your temp internet files. So scroll down through your temp internet folders until you find the second one. That's all I had to delete. didn't have to delete the files for all the downloaded images, either. I hate to do blanket deletions of every file, as there are cookies that I don't want to bother reloading/resetting. But I do wander through Windows Explorer every so often and delete any cookie that I don't find helpful/friendly. When I did that today, I discovered the second ETonline cookie. Interestingly, it does not show up in the same place in the list of files because their filenames are different enough to not be in alpha order. Never underestimate the determination of a Drooleur!

I was wondering if there was any news of new projects for CF? Or at least possible roles? Radio 5 has a "From the Movies" spot, and over the weekend there was a report on how the success of BJD has made RZ and HG very much in demand - Huge is linked with at least three new roles, ditto RZ. No mention of CF. I know there's MOB, but that dates back pre-BJD.

oh my ... Virgin have a sale on and I picked up English Patient for a fiver *sigh* what a film, gets better every time I see it; Colin's scenes in the taxi, wordless, watching katherine come and go, are stupendous; sometimes I think he acts better when he doesn't speak than when he does (or is it sacriledge to say that around here?) Not that I mean he doesn't act when he speaks, merely that he is better than anyone else I can think of at letting an emotion flicker across his face and the audience sort it out for themselves. oh crikey, I think I'm going to have to go and see BJD again!

(Rachael) Colin's scenes in the taxi, wordless, watching katherine come and go, are stupendous Yes, it's wonderful. I think I read somewhere that the director cast Colin with that scene in mind, because he knew that Colin could convey so many feelings without saying a word.

BTW, I caught a showing of Conspiracy a couple of days ago on one of HBO's other channels (Signature, the *women's* channel) and they played a much longer intro piece before the movie, where not only do KB and ST talk but Colin did as well plus the director.

News of casting of "Forsyte Saga" in the Telegraph. Damian Lewis as Soames, plus Ioan Grufyyd and Rupert Graves. I'd love to see Colin getting another meaty dramatic role, like Soames. He only seems to be offered lightweight/ supporting roles these days. Perhaps "Hamlet" will remind casting directors that he can *act*! Sorry to sound miffed...but I can't understand why in five years he's not been offered something substantial on screen!! I think "Hamlet" is very much his own initiative...perhaps out of frustration at not being offered challenging roles.

Bethan, that information about the Forsyte Saga's casting was posted on Odds and Ends several days ago as it has *nothing* to do with Colin.

Neither does Dr. Zhivago.

Sorry, I'm hopeless at checking Odds and Ends. The "something" to do with CF is just my heartfelt hope to see him in a strong serious dramatic role once again, where he has scope to develop acharacter and demonstrate that he's a fine actor. And I just feel disappointed when other actors "get the gravy". I won't mention Dr Zhivago again.

Posted this on 149 too � Sam West�s replies to a questionnaire his fans sent him: If you had been offered a part in Bridget Jones' Diary, which role would you choosen? Haven't seen it. Umm... Anything that Colin does is probably worth coveting. (He's doing Hamlet next, which is nice) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SamWest/message/4508 His answers are very amusing.

Re SLOW: I am thankful. :-) Re casting: I wish there was a way we could find out what Michelle Guish is casting ahead of time. She seems to be credited with casting CF the most. She seems to be a woman with impeccable taste who knows the scope of Firth.

Caribou, heehee re SLOW - I found this group of women here, see how God had buttered my bread! And even if someone came with ten cans of sardines, you couldn't take my obsession away from me :-)

Holy moly! Another actor who corresponds directly with his cyberfans. *pout* Cute, nonserious answers though. Didn't have any idea he went to Dartmouth. Thanks, Marianne. (Caribou) I wish there was a way we could find out what Michelle Guish is casting ahead of time. She seems to be credited with casting CF the most. So the idea would be to ensure that *other* casting directors take notice. There really seem to be only two important ones in the UK: Guish and Celestia Fox. Don't mean to put a damper on things, Bethan. We all have our pet projects and take notice of news of other actors being cast in what may be desirable projects but we tend to talk about them on O&E. Just a little housekeeping for duplicative posts.

Don't mean to put a damper on things, Bethan. Oh, I'm not easily dampened....but am not very happy about casting (in general) in British TV/movies. Sam West (an excellent actor, who we see too little of...he would have been very acceptable as Soames) said recently in an interview (have posted this before) that the theatre had given him a second chance as once you were over 35, it was difficult to get good parts. I think he has a point....especially British movies, and often TV drama. (The casting of "Forsyte" is very youthful) Which is why I hope CF's appeal is now more global! I'm very interested in seeing what kind of offers he gets post BJD... (enough of Hughie and RZ!!)

(Marianne) Sam West�s replies to a questionnaire his fans sent him: Thanks, Marianne. I enjoyed Sam's responses a lot and am glad to know he thinks well of CF. Since we know it is highly unlikely Colin would ever participate in a fan-chat I guess this is the next best thing :-).

(Jana)Since we know it is highly unlikely Colin would ever participate in a fan-chat I guess this is the next best thing :-). Ya' never know....;-)) Jonathan emailed the editor of his website and sent good wishes to all of his fans.. http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/3782/index.html I remember someone telling Colin that brother communicated with his fans.... Was it you Mari?

Now, this looks interesting or at least would seem to have possibilities. Too bad Ananova keeps referring to it by the wrong name with the wrong url. But I've found it at: http://www.heritagetheatre.com Classic stage productions to be recorded for posterity Classic stage productions are to be recorded for posterity by Heritage Theatre and sold on DVD and video. The first releases will include the Royal Shakespeare Company's The Winter's Tale. Other productions to be featured include Bristol Old Vic's world premiere of Denial by Arnold Wesker, and Betty Buckley live at the Donmar Warehouse. Heritage Theatre, which was set up last year by a group of former BBC employees, aims to build a catalogue of videos of live performances to sell across the English-speaking world. Further details are available at www.heritagetrust.com. ~~~~~~~~~~~ A pity that they weren't around a couple of years ago, as these people have a relationship with the Donmar. But perhaps they can be persuaded to record another great performance next February at the Riverside??? info@heritagetheatre.com

From the "Are They Kidding?" Department of Ananova: Dame Judi's play affected by her filming schedule Several performances of The Royal Family have been cancelled due to the film commitments of its lead, Dame Judi Dench. The production is due to open at the Theatre Royal in London's Haymarket in October....Dame Judi will by then be at the tail-end of filming The Importance Of Being Earnest, in which she plays Lady Bracknell.

I remember someone telling Colin that brother communicated with his fans.... Was it you Mari? Boy, it sure sounds like something I'd say.;-) But no, that was someone else. Jon sounds like a sweet guy. I know Mickie has periodically sent fan questions to him and he always responds. She says his agent is nice too, very responsive (not like the guard dogs at ICM.;-) Karen, I think Ananova gets its scoops from peoplenews.;-)

(LauraT) But all the possible faults of this movie aside (ATA), the scenes w/ CF in nice tight jeans make it all worthwhile. ;) Amen, sister. The sweats weren't too bad either. However, I most liked Jess framed in a doorway - The film ends for me after the courthouse scene.

He was hiding. Here he is -

Sideburns were rather longish, don't you think? ;-)

Yum Thanks for the picture, Heide! That long, limber frame in a lovely relaxed pose. Tousled curls. Sigh. I loved the way he looked in ATA. And no, Karen, I think his sideburns are just fine. I like them just as they are.

Another "Hamlet" has just opened in London - a version by Steven Berkoff, who has re-written most of the Bard's lines. It's a two-hander (just Hamlet and Ophelia) and (to quote the review) the two of them share a love that makes Romeo and Juliet seem half-hearted. More from the review... 'Can you credit Ophelia asking Hamlet to furrow her fertile fields, or a now-randy prince talking of his sap rising, his lava pouring into her, or Ophelia comparing his testicles to persimmons which she wants to squeeze...' The real thing will seem quite tame by comparison! Clearing away some books, I found I had a Heinemann Educational copy of TIOBE (aimed at schools) with an excellent introduction by Sir John Gielgud (who played Jack Worthing). He obviously took playing Jack just as seriously as he did playing Hamlet. It's too long for me to type out, but a couple of quotes give the flavour.. "It is not easy to achieve the style, the lightness, the apparent ease the play demands. Above all it is hard to act it with a deadly seriousness, yet with an inner consciousness of fun - the fun with which one plays seriously a very elaborate joke. The pace of the comedy must be leisurely, mannered: and everybody must, of course, speak beautifully - but the wit must appear spontaneous, though self-conscious. The text must be studied and spoken so as to arouse a cumulative effect of laughter from the audience." Gielgud offers several observations on how to play Jack. Catherine McCormack is appearing in a Sam Shepard play at the Donmar. It's an ensemble performance by a cast of six, and her role sounds like one of the smaller ones, not particularly crucial.

Remember the discussion about the vein in Conspriracy, well, looks like it's his own:

Can anyone translate Danish? Why Hugh Grant? And is there a problemene? August regisserer kostymedrama Den danske regiss�ren Bille August skal regissere "The Maid Of Buttermere". Av: Linda Lorentzen ( 19.04.2001 11:00:55) Filmen er et kostymedrama fra Englands Lake District og bak prosjektet st�r det spanske produsentselskapet Lolafilms. Filmen er basert p� en bok av Melvyn Bragg og handler om en kjekk kjeltring som forf�rer rike unge piker. Problemene starter da han forelsker seg i en vakker pike i landsbyen. Ingen skuespillere har forel�pig blitt linket til prosjektet. Innspillingen vil starte til h�sten og har et budsjett p� 90 millioner kroner. Prosjektet var opprinnelig i hendene p� det store Hollywoodselskapet MGM, og de hadde b�de Colin Firth og Hugh Grant i tankene, men n� har alts� Lola overtatt. August har allerede jobbet med prosjektet en stund. Han har tidligere hatt stor suksess med filmer som "Pelle eroberen", "�ndenes hus" og "Fr�ken Smilas fornemmelse for sn�". Hans siste film, den norsk-svenske "En sang for Martin", g�r n� p� norske kinoer. Tilbake

I've put it up at the Tea Room where there are some Danes, but looking at the date of this news item, it is precisely when Bille August's name was released as being associated with this project. If anyone is at the Karlovy Vary (sp??) film fest going on right now in the Czech Republic, they can ask him what's doing, as I saw his name and that film (Song for Martin) are there.

hello I'm new but I think I can help, my Danish isn't great but here goes: Bille Agust has been put in charge of Maid of Buttermere, which has been taken over by the Spanish Lolafilms. The film is based on the book by Melvyn Bragg, blah...the problems start when he falls in love with a country girl...No film stars have promised themselves to the project, shooting will start in the autumn and has a budget of 90 m Dkr (thats about �9m I think)The project was originally in the hands of MGM which has stars like Colin Firth and Hugh Grant in their grasp(?) but now Lola's taken over...then there's stuff about Agusts previous film works eg Smillas feeling for Snow.

Amazing! A translation in less than an hour. Thanks so much, Ursula, for doing a great job and even doing the currency conversion, although the last Ananova item set it at �6m. ;-) *I know currencies fluctuate*

Welcome Ursula: Quite a debut!!Thank you. "No film stars have promised themselves to the project", Ah ha....There is still hope....;-) But they better hurry.Autumn is almost here. The vein picture!!Sideburns need trimming...actually he needs a trim job all over. Great pic though..he looks so happy. Renee is congratulating him on son.

And Huge is picking his nose. ;-)

Thanks for the translation, Ursula!

(Bethan)Catherine McCormack is appearing in a Sam Shepard play at the Donmar. It's an ensemble performance by a cast of six, and her role sounds like one of the smaller ones, not particularly crucial. Darren Daglish "The London Theatre Newsletter" A LIE OF THE MIND at the Donmar until 1 September "The acting is of the highest quality. Catherine McCormack is exceptional as 'Beth'. The first scenes when she is in hospital unable to talk or walk properly were painfully realistic"

De-lurking Swede here that admires the great translation from danish by Ursula but thought that I'd add my little bit to it too (as danish is quite like swedish). The danish text hints that MGM was thinking about starring either Colin (oh why, o why didn't they? ) or Hugh but instead this Spanish company took over and that probably means that Colin is out of the picture. *sigh* /gabriella

as a relative newbie, and at the risk of sounding cheekily pushy, I was wondering if there was a date when droolers are heading for Hamlet, as I'd like to get a ticket and it would be cool to meet up with some fellow firthaholics, as I don't have any mates who can tolerate my obsession enough to have a trip to Londinium with me!

Ursula and Gabriella! I didn't want anyone to feel left out and I want to encourage you both to continue posting, regardless of whether we have Danish news items requiring translation. ;-) (Gabriella) The danish text hints that MGM was thinking about starring either Colin (oh why, o why didn't they? ) or Hugh but instead this Spanish company took over and that probably means that Colin is out of the picture. *sigh* Actually, that's the first mention that MGM ever had this property. It is definitely possible as books are optioned all the time. However, I'd sooner believe this writer got his/her facts a bit mixed up because it was the Spanish company (Lola) that had Colin's name associated with the producted in April 2000. A year later, the director was changed and the film company apparently still wanted CF to play the part with Catherine McCormack, but there's never been any confirmation of his interest in doing this...(thank god)

Is there *another* product of Hamlet????? I suspect that Ophelia will become the main character: From Ananova: Angelina Jolie 'to play Ophelia in London' Angelina Jolie is reported to be planning to appear in London's West End. The Tomb Raider star is considering playing Ophelia in a stage production of Hamlet, to be directed by her brother James Voight. It would be the first time Jolie has acted on stage. www.entertainment.news.com.au reports Jolie's father, Jon Voight who plays Lara Croft's dad in Tomb Raider, said: "I'm sure if she decides to play Ophelia she will be a success."

Hey...testing...is anyone there??

For those unfamiliar with Reese Witherspoon's work or the regard in which she's held by critics, take a look at these comments from Todd McCarthy in his review of Legally Blonde:Beaming star wattage out of every pore, not to mention her hair, Witherspoon once again proves herself a comedienne worthy of comparison to such golden era greats as Carole Lombard and Ginger Rogers. Seemingly at the center of every frame of the picture, the actress possesses an evanescence that floods everyone and everything in its proximity and here dignifies and elevates material that proves more appealing conceptually than it generally manages to be in the playing. Like her character, who will let nothing, least of all her own limitations, stand in her way, Witherspoon isn't about to let spotty dialogue and some directorial clumsiness prevent her from showing what she's made of... At this point, Witherspoon is one of a very small number of screen actors one wants to see in anything she does.If you want to read the full review, it is here: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010709/en/review-filmblonde_1.html

doesn't seem like it...hm... Anyway I'm glad to be part of this 'conference', as I am a great fan of CF. I simply can't wait until the premiere of 'Bridget Jones Diary' (in Denmark;oD)

ups...

Dinah, your posting has worked but this is not a chatroom. People post messages and often go away for periods of time. So do not expect to be able to carry on a chat-type discussion here. But you are very welcome here and we have lots written about BJD on Topic 149 and its predecessors which have been filled up with messages (145, 131 and 80, where it all started many years ago). We also have a Spoiler topic where people who have seen the movie have been discussing it in greater detail. That is Topic 126. Hope to see you joining us regularly. :-)

Thank you for telling me... there was a slight misunderstanding there, but now it is quite solved:o) I wonder what CF is doing after the BJD-movie... could anybody tell me?

He worked on Conspiracy with Kenneth Branagh, which was shown on the US cable channel HBO in May (and is still showing) and has just finished making The Importance of Being Earnest with Rupert Everett, Judi Dench, Reese Witherspoon and Frances O'Connor. He is now officially *on vacation* You can lot of information by reading the older messages here, which I suggest you do. This is the main Drool page, where you will see all the topics that are full of information. Also, you should check The Bucket site, where all the news on CF's works are kept, organized by project. http://www.spring.net/karenr/mdbro/main.html

He is now officially *on vacation* Where is this info from? I.e., how official is it? (Just curious.)

Am back. Have been very busy mounting my own production of Hamlet (why not, everyone else is). ;-P Thought you'd like to know ODB's still in the lead over at the ET site (38%). RZ and BJD are also still leading their respective categories. Welcome, newbies! (Karen) take a look at these comments from Todd McCarthy in his review of Legally Blonde See Todd gush. See Todd fawn. See Todd gush some more...though I agree, RW's a great actress. Am sure she'll do wonders with Cecily. (Anawedon'tnova) Several performances of The Royal Family have been cancelled due to the film commitments of its lead, Dame Judi Dench. The production is due to open at the Theatre Royal in London's Haymarket in October....Dame Judi will by then be at the tail-end of filming The Importance Of Being Earnest Hmm. Maybe she'll be looping that tricky handbag line. ;-)

Eileen: Do they mention any dates for The Royal Family? I'll be over then and would love to see a production of it w/Dame Judi in it.

(Karen)Remember the discussion about the vein in Conspriracy, well, looks like it's his own Thanks for the picture, Karen. Since our Conspiracy discussion of it, I had also noticed it in the restaurant scene at the end of WoF, when Brian is sitting at the table with Valentin (before he goes up to the juke box). And also in FF in the bedroom scene, but in those two places it wasn't the bluish color, it was just visible. "Despite appearances" (of it), I like him, just as he is ;-)! (Evelyn) Great pic though..he looks so happy. Renee is congratulating him on son. I agree it is such a sincere and genuine greeting. He really has a great respect for Renee. I noticed it also in the (BJD promo) VH 1 interview, too. He didn't say much in the interview (Huge and Sharon M. did), but when Renee was talking, the camera included him looking at her with great respect and admiration. Evelyn you are so clever to put it all together with the timing of the London premiere, the birth of his baby, and their greeting. I had forgotten. Or maybe you were there and overheard it ;-)?

Welcome Ursula and Gabriella and Diane! Too many Hamlets is not a good thing. You'll have all the men wanting to see Angelina and all the women going to see Colin! LOL! Reese knows how to steal a scene, but will he let her? I can't wait to see TIOBE.

Evelyn you are so clever to put it all together with the timing of the London premiere, the birth of his baby, and their greeting. I had forgotten. Or maybe you were there and overheard it ;-)? LOL. I wish.... I was just returning from the NY Premiere where he was Not! But I do remember the boss telling us that's what he was saying at the post London Premiere party at Mezzo's;-) He is now officially *on vacation* (Echo)Where is this info from? I.e., how official is it? (Just curious.) *Official* like out of his own mouth. He said in a post BJD interview that he was going to take a vacation to be with his family. Do they mention any dates for The Royal Family Check with Albemarle theatre website, you can get your tickets from them too. but I believe it's November. Previews late October.

just saw the translation of danish... If you have such problems another time... well, I'm a Dane:oD And would be glad to help... If I find any Danish articles I'll translate them and send them to you:o)

Welcome to Diane, Ursula, and Gabriella. We're glad to have you on board! (Moon)Reese knows how to steal a scene, but will he let her? I can't wait to see TIOBE. I have noticed that about her so many times (even in the previews for Legally Blonde)and you are so right, the interplay between them will be terrific to watch. He won't likely let her get away with too much though ;-). I think Reese will also draw a whole other audience (male and female) to TIOBE and therefore to Colin (in a handsome and debonaire role, not to mention clever) and this conference center will be buzzing by June next year! Hope new roles will abound as well ;-).

(Eileen) Have been very busy mounting my own production of Hamlet (why not, everyone else is). ;-P Pffft! Will it be set in Joisey? ;-) I really think the Jolie-Voight thing is missing an opportunity of a lifetime if they really have to pursue doing Hamlet. Think of it, Angelina would be Gertrude and brother James can play Hamlet. *smooch smooch* ;-) Frankly, I think Angie is a little old to be playing Ophelia. Methinks she would be better suited for a Lady MacBeth or a gentleman of Verona. ;-) (Echo)Where is this info from? I.e., how official is it? (Just curious.) (Evelyn) *Official* like out of his own mouth. He said in a post BJD interview that he was going to take a vacation to be with his family. Not to mention that personal email that I sent around... (Lora) and this conference center will be buzzing by June next year! What do you mean "will" be buzzing? ;-) This place gets lots and lots of visitors but most lurk.

(Karen) Will it be set in Joisey Nope. They wouldn't let me set it there 'cause they don't like the way Danes are being represented. ;-) Actually, am having a hard time keeping up with the competition. Will be tough to outdo that production Bethan mentioned. Not to mention that personal email that I sent around... You mean CF's completed vacation request form, right? ;-D

This place gets lots and lots of visitors but most lurk. Been a while since we had any stats from Terry. How many hits/day since Bridge? And how many for The Bucket? For a while there you were off the chart! "Just curious";-)

(Eileen) You mean CF's completed vacation request form, right? ;-D Exactly, it was completed, sent in, received all the proper approvals and put in his personnel folder right behind the doctor's note supporting FMLA request.

(Evelyn) *Official* like out of his own mouth. He said in a post BJD interview that he was going to take a vacation Yes, but has anyone thought of asking him again the following day? He usually has a different answer then... ;-)

(Evelyn) *Official* like out of his own mouth. He said in a post BJD interview that he was going to take a vacation (Echo)Yes, but has anyone thought of asking him again the following day? He usually has a different answer then... ;-) LOL. Poor guy. He's got so many dependents now on different continents to consider.So many people to please....including *us*:-)

So many people to please....including *us*:-) Ooooh, and I'm extremely hard to please... ;-)

(Karen)What do you mean "will" be buzzing? ;-) This place gets lots and lots of visitors but most lurk. Sorry, Karen, I should have said "will be buzzing *even more*!" He'll be so good as Jack that he's bound to get more to join in and to delurk! Just like after BJD!

Right--first order of business is dropping the superfluous "-Jen" that I've been using. It's been making me feel like the missing Mouseketeer. Can I just change names like that, Karen? Second (and most important)--Nick Hornby will be live online with the Washington Post today at 1:30 EDT. I swear this is not OT, as we can shower Mr. Hornby with questions about working with ODB, both in a film and as an author. Here's the link: http://discuss.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/zforum/01/author_hornby071101.htm Am off to draft a question for Mr. Hornby...submit early and often!

Nick Hornby is also being interviewed on Fresh Air today. (NPR)

To minimize the duplication, I've moved LauraT's comments about NH (even though they mention CF) to O&E.

(Or he could be the offbeat English friend who thinks baseball is stupid and prefers soccer.) actually I can better relate to that :D

(Karen)Angelina Jolie is reported to be planning to appear in London's West End. The Tomb Raider star is considering playing Ophelia in a stage production of Hamlet, to be directed by her brother James Voight. Egads! And I was just going to ask if any Ophelia's have been suggested for CF's Hamlet. And if Hamlet is 40ish, how old does that make Ophelia? Let's just put AJ in CF's play and imagine the publicity that would get, minus some credibility ;-) And while I'm here, I've found a perfect work opportunity for CF! I'm, of course, referring to the Harry Potter movies. Apparently they'll be filming the sequel very soon and the casting so far has been quite perfect. And if I had a 10 year old son, I'd love to do a film that he'd love to see. So who should he play? Snape would've been fun but Alan Rickman has that. I'm thinking Professor Lupin, or Sirius Black. Plenty of sequels to be in, as well! Anyone else hereabouts read the series?

(Anyone else hereabouts read the series?) Am about to begin, because my little sister collects the books:)

Am I the only one who likes Angelina Jolie? I think she's a fantastic actress.

Having read all the Harry Potter books, and consulted my 12 yr old, who is an expert, we think Sirius Black is a good idea, as he's quite heroic, and only in books 3 and 4, or Lupin, in book 3, who is meant to be very handsome (she says); her other suggestion is Mr Weasley who is in books 2 3 and 4, father of Harry's mate Ron, has red hair and is an all-round good guy (very clever, works in the Ministry of Magic)!

Having read all the Harry Potter books, and consulted my 12 yr old, who is an expert, we think Sirius Black is a good idea, as he's quite heroic, and only in books 3 and 4 There was an item on the radio a few weeks ago and Hugh Grant was said to be up for consideration as Lupin and CF as Sirius. Haven't actually read this anywhere though. CF would make an excellent Sirius...he initially seems to be the bad guy but he turns out to be Harry's protector and godfather.

(Bethan)There was an item on the radio a few weeks ago and Hugh Grant was said to be up for consideration as Lupin and CF as Sirius. I love that you've heard this! I'm not sure if I care for HG as Lupin, but I'm happy to hear that someone else is thinking of CF. And I'd imagine that Rowling wouldn't object since she seems to be a sensible girl. Want to bet that she's seen P&P2 once or twice? I don't know if she has a say in casting but she has been working with the production. Rachael mentioned CF would be a good Lupin as well, and I'd agree. And Lupin will be returning to the series in the next book. CF as Mr. Weasley would be hilarious, as he has some of the funniest lines while being a wonderful, eccentric father. Reminds me a bit of MLSF, without the lusting! But Black has the most to do in the long run, I think, so I'll vote for him. Do you think CF would commit to so many sequels?

my original thought was Sirius, mainly for the reasons bethan said, but Mr Weasley was 12yo's idea and I think, a great one; I told her to think who Colin could play (she knows who he is!) and she said the problem with him playing Sirius is that at first he has to be ugly *ROFL* I think the commitment thing would be a major problem (being serious for a nno-second) Bryonny's comment about Mr Weasley being a really funny role reminds me of something I was thinking about on the drive home - I think Colin has really good comic timing and would love to see him in something really funny - I always saw Wessex as a comic figure as much as the bad guy, and his line that makes me laugh out loud is when he meets Lady Viola on her way to church, and asks her to go riding, she declines because it isn't her riding day, and he says "bless me, I thought it was a horse". Cracks me up every time!! Also in Relative Values, although I didn't particularly like the campness, I thought the timing and phrasing of some of the lines and gestures was spot on - I love the last scene where Colin and Julie Andrews lean over, perfectly synchronised, to watch Nigel go up the steps. any suggestions?

Rachael's daughter has a point about Sirius's looks, but that's only because he's been in prison for a long time, the poor dear. We're supposed to be afraid of him at first but I imagine he's darkly handsome once he cleans up and gets some food in him. Another chance for Colin to dye his hair black again ;-) The more I watch RV, the more I laugh (of course, I only taped the relevant parts). The whole "Here's looking at you" dialogue has me on the floor. If only the Baldwin would stop shadowing the star of the movie! And I love the girl guides. Anyone know exactly what CF says to the girls while they're having their photo taken? I can't figure out the last sentence.

any suggestions? I thought that he showe a flair for comedy in Fever Pitch. I loved the goofy look he got on his face when she told him he couldn't smoke but he could stay the night if he wanted to.

I love that you've heard this! I'm not sure if I care for HG as Lupin, but I'm happy to hear that someone else is thinking of CF. And I'd imagine that Rowling wouldn't object since she seems to be a sensible girl. Actually I got the wrong L... - it was Hughie for Lockhart (the vain "matinee idol" type in Book 2! Joanne Rowling may well know CF. She's a good buddy of Nick Hornby - in an newspaper interview for "Speaking with the Angel" he mentioned her as a friend who made a very generous donation, and he also thanks her in the Acknowledgements in the book. I think the commitment thing would be a major problem (being serious for a nno-second) I think Sirius is a pivotal role but there's not really much screentime - a very significant cameo! Definitely a child-friendly project though. But I've only heard this on the radio -it's probably just conjecture.

*What* does Harry Potter have to do with Colin. Can I talk about Moses now?

Ahh, there's nothing like summer, the season when speculation runs rampant... 1. Is CF on vacation? 2. What will his next project be? MoB? Harry Potter? Moses? 3. Will Moon see him in Umbria? 4. How much hair is left in back of his head? Don't know about you, but that last one keeps me up at night. ;-P

(Eileen)Ahh, there's nothing like summer, the season when speculation runs rampant... And being a newbie in love, I'm speculating all over the place :-) Can't pick up a book without casting CF in some role!

3. Will Moon see him in Umbria? LOL, Eileen! How about, Will he come to Lake Como? I read that Brad, Jennifer, and George Clooney were just there. It's time he comes to Northern Italy.

I phoned Riverside for tickets for Hamlet today, and the girl on the phone said they're not on sale until 1st August - they were on sale a while ago but then suspended, she said, but I didn't get a chance to ask why cos I was interupted.

Mariel Hemingway just said that Londinium will be on HBO on Sept 2nd! (they will be showing TSM and L back to back)

(Eileen) How much hair is left in back of his head? Gah! I try very hard to NOT think about that one.

Karen, where did Mariel say this? An HBO promo in between shows? Great to finally have a date! I think I'll tune in for only the second half of the Binder-a-thon. Speaking of "thons," is that Labor Day weekend? Poor Jerry's Kids don't stand a chance.;-)

Yup, is Sunday before Labor Day. Mariel was on Larry King Live and they showed a clip. Am going to tape at next repeat in a half an hour. Don't know if I can take another hour of her talking about her sister, grandfather, suicides, etc.

An emailed HOT TIP!! There's a program on MTV called Diary, which is showing a day in the life of Reese Witherspoon. Well, the day filmed is during the shooting of TIOBE and Colin can be glimpsed. The program will be shown again over the next few days: Thursday at 6:30 pm, Friday at 2 pm, Saturday at 9:30 a.m. and Sunday at 1 pm (all times Eastern)

There is at least one Emmy nomination for Conspiracy. I saw on E! the category on the screen for Best Actor Miniseries, etc. and Conspiracy was there. No name, but is probably KB

(Karen) Londinium will be on HBO on Sept 2nd! On a Sunday?? Huh. is Sunday before Labor Day That explains it. Wonder if SitC and 6Ft's new episodes will be over by then--otherwise the great Binder marathon will occur during the day and exactly 5 non-Firth fans (those 5 being Binder's family ;-)) will take the time to watch. Conspiracy was there. No name, but is probably KB Grrr. Suppose it would be wishful thinking to have CF nommed over Kenny. Good lord, I hope it's not Stanley! (Kate) I try very hard to NOT think about that one. A little north-of-the-Pulaski-Skyway humor, sweetie. ;-)

Colin's been nominated for Best Supporting Actor in a Miniseries!!!!! Whoo hoo!!!!!!!!!

wheee!!!:oD

Cinematography, editing and direction nominations. Finally have scrolled to Supp Actor category and Tucci was also nommed, along with Alan Alda and Ian Holm.

Plus Best Made for TV movie!! with the Arturo Sandoval Story, Neil Simon's Laughter on the 23rd Floor, Wit, 61*

(Jen)Colin's been nominated for Best Supporting Actor in a Miniseries Wishful thinking indeed! *jumping around room, getting funny looks from dog* Tucci was also nommed Fix! Fix! I thought he was OK (as opposed to those of you who didn't care for his performance at all) but it was hardly Emmy-worthy.

But for Colin's nom!!!

Ten nominations, total! Am thrilled!!! Alas, no one at work understands my excited yelping and whooping.

This is soooooooo exciting. He'll have to be there for the show in September. Won't be much publicity here for this category, but still is incredible!! I'd say the British press will turn this into front page material though.

Oh my God!!! T'is true!!!! That new performance of his paid off! Congratulations, Colin! Winter, you must start planning to attend.

(E! piece on noms) Overall, HBO topped the network scorecard with 94 nominations Aha! Is as it should be. Noms are noms, though--let's see how the voting goes. (Jen) no one at work understands my excited yelping and whooping. Take a quick drive up CT to GA and we can yell and whoop together! Wheeee! (Karen) He'll have to be there for the show in September. *fingers and toes are already crossed*

Eileen, was that *you* shooting off those fireworks over the city a few minutes ago? May have to organize an Emmy-watching party--diversions can include: Where's Colin? Why didn't they interview Colin on the Red Carpet? Where's Winter? etc. Office-mate is still giving me strange glances...how can she *not* be excited???

I'd say the British press will turn this into front page material though. Keep your fingers crossed.

Oooh, I knew he could not be so talented for nothing! I'm thinking Colin on the red carpet, I'm thinking Colin and Livia in Armani, I'm thinking Colin being interviewed on live worldwide TV. How many different "red carpet" shows are there? Must plan ahead--do I have enough TV/VCRs in the familiy to catch them all???????

Our resident Hottie is on a roll!! Thrilling!

(Kate F) I'm thinking Colin on the red carpet, I'm thinking Colin and Livia in Armani, I'm thinking Colin being interviewed on live worldwide TV. How many different "red carpet" shows are there? Must plan ahead--do I have enough TV/VCRs in the familiy to catch them all??????? *lol* one must use all means in the struggle for a glimpse of Colin...WE WANT HIM IN THE SPOTLIGHT!!!;oD

*So happy I could spit!* YIPPPEEE! Well done, Colin, and well deserved! Wheeee! The way they have the noms listed on the Emmy site is a bit confusing--so Colin has more competition than we thought; Brian Cox was also nommed for Nuremberg (and he was awesome--*and* used a German accent;-) plus Victor Garber for Life With Judy Garland. Here's how the category reads: Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Miniseries or Movie: Club Land--Showtime Alan Alda as Willie Walters Conspiracy--HBO--An HBO Films Production Colin Firth as Stuckart Conspiracy--HBO--An HBO Films Production Stanley Tucci as Eichmann The Last of the Blonde Bombshells--HBO--Working Title in association with HBO Films Sir Ian Holm as Patrick Life With Judy Garland: Me and My Shadows--ABC Victor Garber as Sid Luft Nuremberg--TNT Brian Cox as Hermann Wilhelm Goering

Congrats, ladies. I doubt that the news will make the UK front pages - the Emmys are not taken very seriously (by the Press) here. If Tucci was as bad as everyone says, he's the best co-nominee possible, as one of the competition is already virtually eliminated. I saw "Last of the Blonde Bombshells" and I an Holm was acted off the screen by Judi Dench. So that's two down, three to go.

And Colin is still leading by 36% at the Hollywood Movie of the Year Awards!!!Although we have to make sure that Ewan and his clan don't get too close to us! Get your friends, enemies and co-workers to vote! Colin is HOT! HOT! HOT!

(MarkG)I saw "Last of the Blonde Bombshells" and Ian Holm was acted off the screen by Judi Dench. Hmm, Ian Holm is a pretty good scene-stealer himself. I was worried about him as competition. Dame Judi can act anybody off the screen. OK, ALMOST anybody. Still, it's a good thing she won't be in all of Colin's scenes in TOIBE!!

I didn't see Alda's or Holm's performances so can't judge. I did like Tucci's performance, but wouldn't rank it with Colin's. Cox, as I said , was superb. It's unfortunate that both CF and ST were nommed in the same category as that generally means they'll cancel each other out. But, hell, this is a day to celebrate, and it *is* an honor to be nominated! Conspiracy got the following 10 nominations: Outstanding Made For Televison Movie Lead Actor--Kenneth Branagh Supporting Actor--Colin Firth, Stanley Tucci Direction--Frank Pierson Writing--Loring Mandel Cinematography--Stephen Goldblatt Camera Editing--Peter Zinner Sound Editing Sound Mixing

Here's the AP's list of the nominees in the major categories; supporting actor/movie is second from the bottom. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010712/en/emmys_short_list_3.html

Now, aren't we glad he didn't do Armadillo? ;-)

You are very funny, Karen! Armadillo was *small beer*

Sorry, but Armadillo would have been great, Karen. Has the filming wrapped? He could have done it and it would have been a starring role instead of a supporting role.

I might add that Colin has finally got himself one great US publicist. At last!!!

Moon, if he had done Armadillo (which no one in the US would've seen), he wouldn't have been able to do Conspiracy for a major television station that everyone watches! Get it?? ;-)

I knew what you meant, Karen. I asked if Armadillo had wrapped, is it being filmed at all? He might have been able to do both. Get it? ;-)

My handicapping of the category: Club Land--Showtime: Alan Alda as Willie Walters A snowball would have a better chance. Did anyone see or even hear of this movie? Conspiracy--HBO--An HBO Films Production:Colin Firth as Stuckart He's "very well-known," taller than anybody else in production, stood up to Jabba and was most memorable character. Also looks lovely in tux. Conspiracy--HBO--An HBO Films Production: Stanley Tucci as Eichmann Has won before. Move on... The Last of the Blonde Bombshells--HBO--Working Title: Sir Ian Holm as Patrick Was shown so long ago. Besides, will give award to Judi; therefore, can't have too many old people on stage. Big turnoff to viewer audience when winners are all old enough to be grandparents. Life With Judy Garland: Me and My Shadows--ABC: Victor Garber as Sid Luft Was excellent performance. Very credible competition. Nuremberg--TNT: Brian Cox as Hermann Wilhelm Goering Another fantastic performance, but was shown quite a while ago. Emmy voters may prefer to give award to shorter and more recent Nazi film. (Mark) I doubt that the news will make the UK front pages - the Emmys are not taken very seriously (by the Press) here. Anytime a Brit gets anything in the US, it seems to be magnified beyond belief. That being said, so far, all I can find is the BBC online news with a report, highlighting the Brits nommed in the Best Actor categories (not supporting). Am now operating on theory that press is scouring the hills of Italy looking for Colin in order to get a quote for tomorrow's papers. ;-) [can't possible admit that Mark just may be right] Armadillo was being shot at the same time. So he couldn't do both.

Looks like Britannia will rule the drama Emmy's:-) KB, Emma Thompson, Colin or Brian Cox (big competition!),Brenda Blethyn.

Just when I think it might be safe to go on vacation, its time to celebrate! Yessss! Colin's da bomb! Oh, yeah! Oh, yeah!

(Karen)Also looks lovely in tux. Anticipating a red-carpet moment?!?!? So it looks like it's down to one of three really in the running. Garber was excellent, but a celeb bio may not be considered "serious" enough, especially up against two very serious movies. "Conspiracy" is a unique movie (Nurenberg has been done before, after all). Maybe the strength of the production will haunt voters and make them think of Colin just that extra bit. (Karen)Am now operating on theory that press is scouring the hills of Italy looking for Colin in order to get a quote for tomorrow's papers. Poor reporters. He may be hard to catch. Don't forget that Livia drives like a Bond girl. ;-)

(MysteryMan) Armadillo was *small beer* Why do I get this funny feeling here... Who do you think MM wants us to imagine he really is? Tease...? ;-)

(Kate) Garber was excellent, but a celeb bio may not be considered "serious" enough Then you didn't see "Me and My Shadows." It was incredible and Judy Davis has got to be Emma's strongest competition. Garber played Sid Luft; it was a strong role and bound to have ties to Academy voters. (Kate) Poor reporters. He may be hard to catch. Don't forget that Livia drives like a Bond girl. ;-) Especially as she's probably off to look for a dress for the awards show. ;-)

I had forgotten about Garber in my earlier post; he is very strong competition indeed. And that show got tons of noms, even more than Conspiracy. It's a strong field, as are all the film acting categories. Bad for the nominees, but good for the viewers.:-) Whatever, I feel very proud of Colin--this is well-deserved, a wonderful performance of great, substantive material *and* the Emmys are very prestigious. I'd bet he is delighted to be recognized for his dramatic chops and for something other than a Darcy. Karen, thanks for the tip on Reese's MTV Diary show and TIOBE. Colin looks adorable! Very very nice, beautifully outfitted in varying soft beige shades. Lovely hair. And no "gap" that I could see.;-) Nice that Reese mentioned Colin specifically. Did you hear Judi's bellowing of "WHERE IS THAT BABY???" I was hoping for "A HANDBAG," but you can't always get what you want.;-) Seems like they were having a good time on the set; did you notice that little dip (*very* Peter in RV;-) he does while they're all yucking it up?

I'd bet he is delighted to be recognized for his dramatic chops and for something other than a Darcy. I bet he's thrilled...all actors like to be acknowledged. Remember how incensed we all were when he was passed over for SIL Oscar noms...everyone except Colin and the dog got nominated that time. I remember he even mentioned that at the Berlin press conference... he was representing the unnominated contingent or words to that effect. Speaking of Darcy...except for Hornblower,I didn't see a costume period drama in the bunch.

Oh, I *knew* this day had been going too well. Newsflash from Mickie: Anne Rosen can't get on line so she has called me on the phone to send this message to you all ASAP. She just got back from a book signing of Nick Hornby in Wash D.C. She asked him what Colin was up to and he mentioned a few things and Anne said of course he is doing Hamlet and he said no it's been CANCELLED!! Anne asked why and he said too many other Hamlets showing at the same time -Sam West's and Simon Russell Beales. Anne will add all other info when she can get on line tomorrow.

and he said no it's been CANCELLED!! That better be an example of his form of humor. :( (Mari) the Emmys are very prestigious. Absolutely, the coverage for this is probably 100x that of the Tonys. Weren't those shots from TIOBE fun! You really have to slo-mo the whole thing. Is so much better. Then that dippy move at the end. Looks like a rooster-y walk a friend of mine used to do to look silly.

(Mari) Did you hear Judi's bellowing of "WHERE IS THAT BABY???" I heard her say "PRISM, WHERE IS THAT BABY???" Yes, not quite a HANDBAG moment, but we'll take whatever we can get of such great material.

From Page 6 of the Daily Mail by Nadia Cohen British teenager takes on big names of US TV in Emmy awards A British teenager has been nominated for one of America�s top television awards for her moving portrayal of Anne Frank. Hannah Taylor Gordon, 14, is one of five nominees for best actress in a mini-series or a film category in the annual Emmy awards���... ���..Colin Firth, Sir Ian Holm and Brian Cox are all up for best supporting actor���

Hamlet cancelled - confirmed :-(

and he said no it's been CANCELLED!! That better be an example of his form of humor. :( Could be Nick's dry humour...or, possibly things are really, finally happening for CF and he just can't afford to block out offers (which may not be repeated)by being unavailable for several months. I thought that in the interviews CF gave just before starting filming BJD, he sounded rather "down" about his career... "haunting the margins" etc. And he'd had some (undeservedly) bad reviews for MLSF and SLOW. Perhaps at the time the theatre seemed the only way of *proving* that he was a good actor, not a wetshirt. Now, things really seem to be "on the up". The Emmy nomination is great news..and BJD's success is incredible, especially in the UK (NH, SIL can't compare). And I think it's always possible to do good roles in the theatre (although maybe there's an age limit for Hamlet). But maybe Nick *was* joking!

(Karen) That better be an example of his form of humor. :( I'm afraid not. Definitely cancelled. Riverside had confirmation yesterday. Box Office chap read me the statement he had from Colin but was too fast and too long for me to write it down. The gist is that it clashes with filming commitments. Riverside will be writing to everyone who booked by credit card today.

This is the reply to an e-mail I sent. Thank you for the e-mail. Unfortunately due to circumstance beyond our control the production of Hamlet has been cancelled due to Colin Firth's work commitments. This was a decision taken by Concentric Circles and not Riverside Studios. If you have purchased tickets we will be contacting you over the next couple of weeks to arrange a full refund. As you may appreciate we have a lot of people who booked with us in advance so this may take some time. If you have any queries concerning yor refund please contact the Box Office Manager on 020 8237 1027. May I take this opportunity to aplogise on behalf of Riverside Studios for any inconveinience caused. With Regards, Louise Rose Reception

If you've already seen this, just ignore completely. And apologies if it's already posted. Some interesting points.. Production and Post on HBO's 'Conspiracy' By Bob Fisher May 23 2001 04:44:00:000PM How do you tell a story about the most horrific crime of the century, and maybe of the ages? What do you do to grab and hold the attention of the audience and leave them with a memorable impression? How do you do justice to that story within the confines of a television screen? Those questions must have been rolling through Stephen Goldblatt's ASC, BSC mind when he was asked to shoot "Conspiracy." "Conspiracy" is a Home Box Office (HBO) special (now airing check HBO schedule) that zeroes in on a meeting held on January 20, 1942, when 15 Nazi bureaucrats gathered at an ornate mansion in Wannsee on the outskirts of Berlin. They were there to plan the Holocaust. Those at the meeting included Reinhard Heydrich (Kenneth Branagh), SS major Adolf Eichmann (Stanley Tucci), Friedrich Kritzinger (David Threlfall) and Dr. Wilhelm Stuckart (Colin Firth). They arrived in limousines and were greeted by butlers and aides who served a sumptuous buffet and attended to their needs. The bureaucrats sat around a conference table where they discussed and argued about the details of the "final solution" to Germany's Jewish "problem." The exercise resulted in horrific executions of some six million men, women and children. You couldn't make this up. The film is faithful to the meticulous minutes of the Wannsee Protocol preserved in the archives of the German Foreign Office. "Conspiracy" was directed by Frank Pierson, who won an Oscar for his "Dog Day Afternoon" screenplay, as well as nominations for scripting "Cool Hand Luke" and "Cat Ballou." He has directed such memorable features as "A Star is Born" and many telefilms, including HBO's "Citizen Cohn" and "Truman," which earned an Emmy for the director. Pierson shared executive producer credits with Peter Zinner ("The Winds of Wars," "War and Remembrance" and "The Enemy Within") and Frank Doelger, who won Emmys for "A Child Betrayed: The Calvin Mire Story" and "Dead Drunk." They chose Goldblatt to photograph the story. At the beginning of his career, Goldblatt was a news and rock 'n roll photographer in London. He subsequently segued into shooting documentaries, commercials and ultimately narrative films. Goldblatt's distinguished body of work includes Oscar nominations for "Batman Forever" and "The Prince of Tides." His other notable credits include "The Cotton Club," "The Hunger," "Young Sherlock Holmes," "Lethal Weapon" and "The Pelican Brief." The cinematographer considered the possibility of shooting in digital HD format, but the cameras were too big and cumbersome and he didn't want to be tethered to cables. Neither did he wish to abandon the look of film. HBO was planning to release "Conspiracy" in HD and standard video formats, but also as a 35mm film that would premiere at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C. "We'd have to convert the video to film anyhow, so I didn't even see a cost advantage," Goldblatt says. "If you make a film like this, you don't want to compromise." Goldblatt ASC, BSC (photo by Douglas Kirkland) Goldblatt had only three weeks to prepare and 23 days to shoot a 120-page script. He envisioned recording the story almost like a theatrical play and structuring the shooting schedule with as much continuity as possible. Goldblatt had shot "a million feet" of 16mm and Super 16 film during his days as a documentary cameraman. "I wanted to bring that feeling to 'Conspiracy.' I did not want the film to have a Hollywood gloss," he explains. He planned to shoot 10 to 12 pages at a time with the camera providing a subjective perspective. Goldblatt recalls that his concept was music to Pierson and the actors' ears. He shot with two handheld Aaton cameras with 35mm Zeiss prime lenses. The Super 16 format allowed him to expose 10 minutes of film with each camera without stopping to change magazines and that in itself only took a few seconds. He shot some make-up and costume tests and also checked the lenses for color matching and the bodies for steadiness. Goldblatt explains that there's no room for error with 16mm and Super 16 film. "We had a fright when a lab in Denmark reported steadiness and sharpness problems," he says. "It gave me sleepless nights until we found the problem was with the gate in the (Philips) Spirit (DataCine). My experience is that the thing you don't check because you're lazy or exhausted is the thing that goes wrong. I can't allow myself to take shortcuts." The main set was built at Shepperton Studios near London. There are big windows in the meeting room set that motivates natural daylight. The exterior is a painted backdrop. Goldblatt used part of his prep time shooting tests to see how far the backdrop should be from the window for a natural look. "We shot the interior at T2.8 and the backing between 4.0 and 5.6," he says. "We had a little smoke outside the windows, artificial snow falling, some artificial frost on the panes and some breeze on the trees. It's incremental. All these things help. We didn't do anything less because it was Super 16. We used excellent lenses and stayed on the best part of the glass. This was a creative choice for this project and we did what was necessary for it to work." A considerable effort was made to create a feeling of authenticity. "The set is historically accurate except it's a little longer and wider than the room where the Nazis met to accommodate sound, lighting and the camera," Goldblatt explains. "It was very chilling reading the script and understanding that real people actually participated in this meeting. I wanted to get into their minds because it is important to understand that ordinary people can do incredibly evil things. "I looked at some old German newsreels just to get a sense of their look and feel, including film of Heydrich and various other people who were at the conference," he says. "It is remarkable how glamorous Heydrich seemed. Frank Pierson and I were very clear that we didn't want to make these people look evil. During staging, I asked that we always had Heydrich facing the windows, so he's not seen in sidelight. I wanted him to always have soft frontlight on his face." Goldblatt emphasizes that the techniques he employed were dependent on the talent of the actors who were capable of handling 10 to 15 pages or more at a time. "It comes from the story and the actors," he says. "Their performances draw the audience into the story. There was terrific communication. The place was electric with their intelligence. The piece just drove itself and we went with it." Branagh was carefully positioned before windows Goldblatt worked at keeping precise eyelines between characters engaged in discussions. In one scene, Dr. Stuckart gets into an angry confrontation with another character who is seated at the table. There is a tense discussion. Goldblatt had a camera looking straight into each character's eyes. The dialogue snaps back and forth and you can feel the adrenaline flowing. It's like seeing each character through the other one's eyes. Goldblatt observed that it was an intensely personal experience for the actors. In favored shots looking down the side of the table, he notes that you can see that all the actors are in full character all the time whether they have lines or not. When Pierson called a halt to shooting at the end of each day, the cast and crew were exhausted from the experience. While "Conspiracy" is reality-based, filmmaking is still an interpretive art. Goldblatt consistently orchestrated lighting in seamless ways to amplify moods and dialogue. At a particularly tense moment, for example, he assumed that a passing cloud had temporarily blocked the sun and the light bouncing off the snow outside became slightly dimmer. It's almost imperceptible, but it gives a darker texture to the angry words. Initially, Goldblatt planned to make 35mm prints for the Holocaust and other museums from an optical blow-up. However, HBO encouraged him to explore the emerging possibility of creating a digital master from the original Super 16mm negative (not from an intermediate positive) as a universal format for television releases and for recording out to 35mm film. "Finishing in a digital suite allowed us to manipulate colors and grain," Goldblatt explains. "We didn't want this to feel like a bunch of actors in old time uniforms doing a historical piece. We wanted a slightly washed-out look, as if it were a color film from that period. We conducted tests (at digital facilities) in various European countries and Los Angeles before we settled on Cinesite in Hollywood." The entire film was converted to a digital file at 2K resolution with a Philips Spirit DataCine. Goldblatt was able to manipulate colors, contrast and other image characteristics in parts of individual frames in an interactive environment with colorist Mike Bellamy. He color-timed the processed file to create video masters for high and standard definition television display. The same digital data file was converted to 35mm Eastman EXR color intermediate film with a laser-based Kodak Lightning recorder at Cinesite. The final step involved color timing the release prints with Steve Sheridan at Deluxe Labs in Los Angeles. "I used to be a handheld 16mm cameraman doing ethnographic documentaries," Goldblatt reminisces. "It's wonderful in those situations because you can really get the bit between your teeth. "Conspiracy" was one of the most intense experiences I've ever had making a film and it was about two-thirds shorter in shooting than just about every other film I've worked on." To be precise, it's not a totally handheld film. Sometimes the camera was held on the conference table with sandbags. Often it was on a dolly. However Goldblatt didn't generally worry about using a head on the dolly. Instead, the operator (Trevor Coop) would just sit on it holding the camera. They would roll from parquet to wood floors and then carpet. Trevor's body absorbed most bumps and Goldblatt didn't worry about the rest. "I just cared about the energy," he says. "I wanted it to feel like the Nazi SS had allowed a documentary crew to be present at the conference. It's a different grammar." He estimates that about 70 percent of the story takes place in the conference room and the characters are almost always seated. Other footage consists of characters coming and going, or in other parts of the mansion. "I watched Frank rehearse with the actors," Goldblatt says, "but the shot list wasn't locked down. The rehearsals gave us some ideas, but I don't like to predict how the actors will perform. I like to fly by the seat of my pants based on what they do and not on what I think is going to be an interesting camera move." He used soft, direct light mainly from about ten Dinos, diffused and placed high above the big windows, about 35 feet away. There were also Space lights scattered throughout the set in niches in the ceiling and a few little floor units for fill. "Once in a while, I'd bounce a little light off some cloth or the stage floor covered in artificial snow onto someone's face," he says. "It feels like ambient light from the window." Since the Aaton camera bodies are only a couple inches wide, Goldblatt was able to place the two cameras side-by-side, so that the eyelines remain consistent. One camera was usually on a medium or close-up shot, and the other one recorded a wider angle. "Often I used profile shots," he says, "because you can see the backgrounds and expressions on the secondary characters faces." Goldblatt composed the frames in 16:9 format, which provided a larger image area very close to 1.85 format used for the 35mm prints. The film will air on HBO in both HD and standard format with a 4:3 composition extracted for the latter under Goldblatt's supervision. He tested several camera films before deciding to shoot the entire movie with Kodak Vision 200-speed stock. Goldblatt says he would have preferred a faster film and more depth of field, but he wanted to avoid grain down because of the 35mm prints. He had video taps on both cameras that delivered images to a monitor kept in another room where Pierson could watch the shoot away from the actors. Cinesite colorist Mike Bellamy (photo by Tory Kooyman) "There wasn't a safe place on the set," he says. "The cameras are always prying. That also helped to keep the actors focused. The fact that we didn't pull walls or ceilings meant that the break between set-ups was usually no more than ten minutes." "We also shot exteriors outside the actual house near Berlin and footage of them arriving and leaving the mansion. Heydrich makes a grandiose entrance. "You can't see his face until we cut away to a beautiful close-up. He looks like a movie star." There is one helicopter scene that provides an overview of the house. Goldblatt recorded that shot on 35mm film because he knew they were going to add digital snow to the scene, so he gave the effects facility a bigger frame to work with. Speaking about his experience with Bellamy in the digital suite, Goldblatt observes, "You can change the balance of colors in very subtle ways, and you can even alter the dynamics of a scene by manipulating colors and contrast without being obvious. You can use the process creatively and also to fix problems." Bellamy explains, "It's almost a process of elimination. If we went in the wrong direction he'd say, 'No, that's too warm,' and then I'd know not to go there again. It's a constant searching for ways to make it right. It's almost a quantifying. When he says, 'Yes, that's right,' I tried to do it again the next time we had a similar situation. I tried to concentrate on seeing things as Stephen did, so I could accommodate him. My suggestions were intended to help him solve problems." Bellamy notes that during original cinematography, Goldblatt frequently had mid-scene changes as a form of visual expression for amplifying dramatic moments. He says some tracking shots had three or four light changes. "In one scene, Kenneth Branagh is next to the window and there's a red rose in the shot," he says. "Stephen wanted the rose redder, so we added saturation to the hue of the red without affecting flesh tones or the gray and black tones in his uniform." Goldblatt sees digital mastering as a potentially powerful extension of the role of the cinematographer into post-production. "It is totally interactive," he explains. "You sit in a suite, look at an image on a monitor and tell the colorist, 'make it a little lighter, less contrast, now make it a bit darker and as we move through the shot let's bring it up. That guy is too magenta.' The colorist is responding and you are seeing the changes. It's got to be a collaborative process because the colorist doesn't know the context or emotional meaning. "I believe that as this technology evolves, we are going to have to re-think the role of the cinematographer," Goldblatt observes. "We are going to have to be there to control or we will lose control of our images. It's not something you can do in just a few days. You go through every shot in each scene." Goldblatt lauds HBO for it's pioneering use of digital film mastering technology without interfering with the creative process. "They have been models of discretion," he says. "They encouraged me to explore all possibilities for making this a better program without interference. We were very fortunate to be working with an enlightened company."

Hamlet cancelled - obviously that's why the girl told me ticket sales were suspended when I called on Wednesday *sigh*

If there is a bright side to Hamlet being cancelled, it must mean there ARE film commitments. This will mean more opportunity to see CF on screen. Especially nice for those of us who don't get out much ;-)

It's disappointing, but he can *always* work in British theatre, at any time of his choosing, and probably in any lead role (and maybe "cancelled" is "postponed"). Those opportunities don't disappear. It would be more disappointing, I think, to read that he had been offered a terrific Oscar-potential screen leading role, and turned it down. I'm just hoping that the phone is finally buzzing for him ("Hi, Spielberg here"!) Anyway, here's hoping those "work commitments" mean that something very good is in the offing (Crowe says no to Henry) :-)

Hamlet cancelled - confirmed :-(

Riverside had confirmation yesterday. And Nick, who has been in the US for days, knew all about it. This was sent to another lady, who gave me permission to post it here: Dear Ms X, I am very sorry to confirm that the production of Hamlet with Colin Firth in Feb/Mar 2002 has been cancelled. Please find enclosed the official cancellation letter, which you will receive shortly through the post. Yours sincerely, Christine Eriksen Assistant Box Office Manager HAMLET - RIVERSIDE STUDIOS - SPRING 2002 We are very sorry to inform you that the production of HAMLET at Riverside Studios has been cancelled due to a change in the film commitments of Colin Firth. This disappointing development is wholly beyond the control of both Riverside Studios and the company presenting the project, Concentric Circles. "My worst fears were fulfilled when my filming schedule for early next year changed meaning that I would have to withdraw from Concentric Circles production of HAMLET. We are now exploring other possibilities of working together in the future." Colin Firth At present there is no definite plan to revive the project so we feel that the simplest course of action is, to refund your tickets. The amount that you paid will be refunded directly to your credit card over the next couple of months and we will write to you again with confirmation of the refund. We apologise for any inconvenience and the undoubted disappointment that this cancellation may have caused. Concentric Circles will now present its planned production of PHEDRE with Sheila Gish during Spring 2002. Yours sincerely William Burdett-Coutts Artistic Director Riverside Studios

Wow, talk about wide-ranging emotions. Was elated yesterday, am crushed today. I guess there's some kind of cosmic balance, but it's still a cruel way to start my Friday. Must break the news to my recently converted friend...

Just to rub it in ;-). Sorry for the double posting. I thought the repost on "refresh" was a Netscape feature but obviously isn't.

From The Independent: Teenager takes on Hollywood greats at Emmys A TEENAGER will go head to head with Emma Thompson and Dame Judi Dench for one of the year's most prestigious acting awards. Hannah Taylor Gordon, 14, from London, was last night nominated for an Emmy award for her leading role in the American mini-series Anne Frank, in which she played the Jewish girl forced into hiding with her family by the Nazis.... Anne Frank, a two-part drama, which has not been shown in Britain, drew critical acclaim in the US when it was screened earlier this year and Hannah Taylor Gordon was praised for her performance. Emma Thompson was nominated for her part in mini-series Wit, while Dame Judi received the nomination for her part in Last of the Blonde Bombshells. The mini-series category was dominated by British actors, with Kenneth Branagh and Gandhi star Ben Kingsley in contention for the best actor awards and Colin Firth, Brian Cox and Sir Ian Holm all nominated in the best supporting actor section. Kingsley's nomination is for his role as Otto Frank, Anne's father, in the drama, while Branagh was honoured for playing the lead part in mini-series Conspiracy. The British 18th-century naval drama Hornblower, which stars Welsh actor Ioan Gruffudd, received a series of nominations, including best mini-series, art direction, costume, make-up and special effects. Veteran stage actor Sir Derek Jacobi was nominated for best guest appearance in a comedy for a part in Frasier when he played a washed-up Shakespearian actor in the hit American sitcom. The BBC's Walking With Dinosaurs is almost certain to win one Emmy at the awards ceremony in Los Angeles on 16 September, as it is the only nominee for outstanding animation lasting more than one hour. [Then, four sentences about The Sopranos] ;-)

(Evelyn) Remember how incensed we all were when he was passed over for SIL Oscar noms Ah...we were? I don't remember that, but I do recall grumbling [read: bitching and moaning] quite a bit when CF was passed over for his 3DOR work at BAFTA time. Ooh, so disappointing to read the unfortunate Hamlet news. I wasn't planning to see it but I know how so many of you were looking forward to it. *But* IMO Nick hit the nail on the head. Here a Hamlet, there a Hamlet, everywhere a Hamlet Hamlet... (Meredith) If there is a bright side to Hamlet being cancelled, it must mean there ARE film commitments. Yes, we must focus on this. Since Riverside sold so many advance tickets (Rachael, selling had been suspended for months before you called), production clearly wasn't cancelled due to lack of sales as a side effect of Hamlet market saturation. I'd love to know what he's got going that's been 'schedule changed.' Yew hew, Mari! Time to call his wonderful agent! (Wanna bet he says 'nothing is confirmed at this time'?) :-/

You know, maybe this means that Colin is working on a sequel to BJD next year???

Riverside had confirmation yesterday. And Nick, who has been in the US for days, knew all about it. *But* IMO Nick hit the nail on the head. Here a Hamlet, there a Hamlet, everywhere a Hamlet Hamlet... I agree! Colin knew he was coming in on the heels of "the greatest Hamlet" Beale recently. Why change his mind now, Angelina Jolie? ;-) Will someone please call his Agent and get info. on the "film commitment"? It sounds like an excuse to me. But I will happily be contradicted. I'm leaving for Italy tomorrow and wish everyone a happy summer. Buone vacanze a tutti! I will as always keep my eyes out for ODB. :-D

(Moon) Colin knew he was coming in on the heels of "the greatest Hamlet" Beale recently. However, when it was first announced, there weren't plans to bring SRB's back to the National as is now happening. IMO, no film commitment caused the cancellation. Will someone please call his Agent and get info. on the "film commitment"? Complete waste of time.

SRB is only back for ten performances or so. Also Sam West's production didn't get particularly good reviews. And CF must have known about the "opposition" when he first agreed to go ahead. And he wanted to do it. Nothing has changed. Why back out now? Also, critics like to see different interpretations of "Hamlet"....there's no restriction on the number of productions. The problem might lie with the paying public, but CF's "Hamlet" was guaranteed a sell-out (no fear of unsold tickets) at the Riverside. And when I rang both Malvern and the Oxford Playhouse, I was told there was tremendous excitement at the prospect of CF playing Hamlet...both would have been sell-out performances. And the original news announcement at Ananova said that the producers had been discussing this project with CF for some time, but it had been difficult so far because of his other commitments (I'm paraphrasing!)

(Karen) Complete waste of time. Spoilsport. ;-P Heck, we've got nothing to lose (except cost of call). Arrivaderci, Ms. Moon! Have a wonderful time.

GAH!!!! How can he do this to us?!? I had second row seats!! And no matter how close you sit to the TV or movie screen, it isn't the same as Colin LIVE. I just hope that he cancelled Hamlet to do something wonderful. If it is a sequel to BJD, there would be pressure to get that moving quickly so that it could come out in time to ride the wave of interest in BJD. Come to think of it, won't his son be teething by next winter? Perhaps he's just saving his energy for walking the floors at night?

I had FRONT row seats. And I've never seen Colin live before :(

This is too depressing. Time to break out the Chardonnay, Milk Tray, and P&P videos.

This is truly a black Friday for Firthfans everywhere... I think that Angelina J. and brother must have been the straw that broke the camel's back and ODB has thrown a wobbly... Btw, has everyone seen the message on the Darcy thread?

(Kate)This is too depressing. Time to break out the Chardonnay, Milk Tray, and P&P videos. And Chakka Khan. What do I care about all the Hamlets...(read #%^&),this guy spoiled my trip. (Not feeling v. altruistic...and don't want anybody to raise my spirits..so don't even try..)

We'll just commiserate with you. It's a bummer for sure!

sorry, Evelyn, I already did try on #148...but maybe ODB really does "have a plan" ;-)!

There isn't much to say that will lessen the intense disappointment of those who were Riverside-bound, but I have to think (yes, *me*, the eternal cynic) something good will come out of this film-wise. Who knows? Bond? Batman? MLSF II--The Postwar Years? ;-D

BATMAN?????????????????? I'm thinking Colin in spandex... (Or is the batsuit made of vinyl or rubber?) At least the mask wouldn't hide his dimples!

Colin in moulded latex costume .... Peeling moulded latex off sweaty Colin... Oh dear! :)

I haven't posted in a dog's age, and I apologize for that. Too busy with RC and OW, but I have been keeing up with Colin news, and am SO happy for the Emmy nom and so sorry for those who planned to see his Hamlet. Anne R has further news at Firthden on Nick Hornby's statements re Colin. **************************** Okay, now I have some good news. Colin may indeed be working on a new film next year. Hornby told me that he recently read a new novel called New Cardiff by Charles Webb, the man who, back in the Sixties, wrote The Graduate. He really liked it and recommended it to Colin as a good read. Colin read it and liked it, too, and said that he'd really like to play the leading character (who, coincidentally, is named Colin) if it ever got filmed. Well, completely independently of this, the novel was optioned for the movies, and the people who bought the rights offered Colin the part. Naturally, he accepted. That's all Hornby said about this project, but when I first asked him what Colin was doing, he said that he has absolutely nothing coming up. I'm interpreting this to mean that the film project is still in the very early, nebulous phase, which means that it might be filmed next year or three years from now or never. Putting a film together is a very iffy business--for one thing, they have to raise the money, and Colin is not the kind of star who is considered "bankable," and this is Webb's first novel in 25 years (The Graduate may have been a big hit, but that was in 1967). So I would not regard this as definite by any means. But it's nice to know that it's a possibility. Hornby also mentioned that Colin is in Italy now ("at Livia's house" is what he said, and I assume that means her parents' retreat in Umbria). TIOBE has finished filming. He was upset by the paparazzi pictures of Colin and Luca--very intrusive. I was rather sheepish when I asked him about Colin's activities, but he didn't laugh at me or even grin; he said, oh, he lives very close to me and we know each other quite well. But the woman standing next to him laughed, and I suspect that she's heard that question from a few other people before. ;-) In the Q&A session following Hornby's reading from his new novel How To Be Good, someone asked how much he had edited the stories in SWTA. He said very little, but that "the author who needed the most hand-holding was--understandably--Colin Firth." He went on to say that Colin had always wanted to write, but his story as originally submitted was too long--it would have been the longest story in the book if it had been published as it was. Obviously that wouldn't have been good, since the other contributors were all professional writers, many of them well known. He didn't say anything about the actual editing process, however. When he mentioned Colin's name, there was a little flutter among the 400 or so people present; you could tell that they recognized the name and were excited about hearing it mentioned. As Mickie said to me last night, that wouldn't have happened a few years ago! In fact, while I was waiting on line to get to Hornby to have him sign my books and chat, I heard several young people (mostly male) talking about Colin and mentioning his movies. So, he's definitely getting better known in the U.S. That's all he said about Colin. I'll post again on the non-Colin part of the evening. ******************** Finally for a needed laugh. I am starting to read the new Mitchem bio by Lee Server, and was looking through the photos first. Here is what I found:

The film companies appear to be Fragile and Buena Vista.

and they bought the rights a year ago, so it may be coming together now as BV financed the sale.

(Hornby)"the author who needed the most hand-holding was--understandably--Colin Firth." As Hornby said, this is understandable. It's hard to write to a predetermined length, and it's very difficult to cut your own stuff (or even to watch someone else cut it). If the story has a personal meaning to you (which I think this did for Colin, what with his grandparents dying), cutting it down to fit can be a painful task. Plus, Colin probably knew who the other writers would be, and was aware that he was the only previously unpublished writer. Add to that the fact that he was doing this for a friend's special cause (remember the interview in which he said that writing this was a "gentleman's agreement"?). No wonder he was nervous. It shows he took the committment seriously.

The film companies appear to be Fragile and Buena Vista. Fragile produced TIOBE, didn't they? "New Cardiff" was published a couple of months ago in the UK, to very good reviews - a gently satirical romantic comedy. Sounds very filmable. A talkie movie. It's about an English artist who decides to move to a new life in New England, after a failed love affair (sort of Henry James in reverse). The film rights were sold for a substantial sum. Well, if CF does this, he'll have to spend a couple of months in the US!

Yet another romantic comedy??? Give me strength. *** Mitchum DROOLETTES - very good! So we aren't very original, then. (Btw, love the wallpaper. ;-))

I went to see Nick Hornby tonight and "Being Not So Good," I feigned ignorance about Hamlet and asked what Colin was doing before that. Nick answered that "he thought" that Hamlet was canceled. Looking suitably shocked (put my name forward for an Evvy, thank you very much), I managed to utter "what? why?" to which he said the bit about too many Hamlets. So I countered, "so he backed off because of Angelina Jolie?" He said that there was Sam West...and I interrupted and said, "yes, all those were out there before while Colin was still *doing* Hamlet but that just a day or so ago, news came out that Angelina Jolie might going to be doing another production in the West End." He looked very surprised. So I asked if there was anything else, and he offered up the info about New Cardiff that Colin was *interested* in doing. "Was this going to take the place of Hamlet?" "no, he didn't think it was far enough along for that." So that's that. The latest and virtually worthless Colin update. Except that he volunteered that Mark Herman was working on the New Cardiff project. I've looked Mark Herman up in the IMDB and he was the writer/director of Brassed Off and Little Voice. Not too bad. BTW, when I approached the table, I came out of the closet and announced myself as a Colin Firth fan. [One step down. Eleven to go.] His asst laughed and said, 'isn't everyone?' And I said, any right-minded person would be. Nick volunteered the same info about Colin's being in Italy, Colin had just finished TIOBE (to which I said that I liked the Earnest line in his book and his eyes twinkled), yadda yadda. Had tons of other questions...Will relate other, non-Colin related stuff on O&E. Oh yes, he said that Mark Herman was working on the New Cardiff project and I've just looked

From Screen Daily: Film Council hands development sums to UK six-pack The Film Council�s development fund has announced slate development deals with six UK production companies, worth $1,767m (�1.262m) from its annual coffers of $7m (�5m). Long term deals have been struck with Fragile Films, Archer Street Tiger Lily, Kuhn & Co, Autonomous, Dragon Pictures and The Jim Henson Company. [...] Fragile Films, headed up by producer Barnaby Thompson, was awarded $280,000 (�200,000). The company will this summer release UK comedies Lucky Break and High Heels And Low Lifes, and is currently in post production on The Importance Of Being Earnest. [...] The formation of a cash-rich development fund was well-received in the UK, which has an oft-criticised dearth of development culture. "The gap in the industry for providing development funding for bigger budget projects has been an historic problem in the UK," said Michael Kuhn, "and it is really important for companies with ambitions in this direction to get an eye in early on a project, to secure big cast names, etc. This type of funding aims to give companies that ability." ~~~~~~ $280,000? That wouldn't even cover a catering budget.

(Karen)$280,000? That wouldn't even cover a catering budget. Might pay for Colin's salad lunches?

Might pay for Colin's salad lunches? Oooooh! Salad lunches=love scenes! That definitely sounds like "funding for the arts"! Tried to find "New Cardiff" in the U.S. Naturally it isn't available here yet. It sounds like a great book that would transfer well to film. Nick Hornby's review quoted at Amazon.UK makes it sound like just the thing for ODB: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0316856991/reviews//202-0284655-3683043 I hate that movies take so long to go from book/concept to completed product. Here I am ready to see the film and I can't even rush over to Barnes & Noble to buy the book yet. Sigh... I'd certainly be willing to buy shares in the film production if it would help to speed things up. BTW, CF, RZ and BJD are losing ground to the Moulin Rouge crowd over at ETonline. They're only ahead by 10% now. If you want to go over and support the cause, here's the place: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0316856991/reviews//202-0284655-3683043 http://etonline.com/html/page_meter/hff2001/index.htm

Sorry. Don't know how that link got in there twice.

Quote from review of New Cardiff--"charming, uncloyingly romantic and witty" Now who does that remind you of??? No wonder they thought of CF for the part.

Yet another romantic comedy??? Give me strength. Those are my words.... Louise's review is better..."Witty and uncloyingly romantic". And it's satirical! The latest and virtually worthless Colin update. Thanks for trying, Karen! "New Cardiff" apart, I'm sure that CF must have other irons in the fire...he never seems to sign until the last minute. And information about his projects s never seems to be available (from his agent etc) until he actually starts work, or the day before! I would think Nick was willing to talk about "New Cardif" because he had mentioned it to CF in the first place. Probably even he doesn't know what CF is going to do next. As for "Hamlet", Perhaps the most disappointing (and mismanaged) aspect is that tickets went on sale so early, raising false hopes and expectations. I'm sure CF wanted to do it, but I'm wondering if he could actually afford to do it *now*? (working for �200 a week/turning down other work) He must be "hot" at the moment in terms of work offers ....but the moment may not last forever. There's always time for stagework, and he's obviously still considering it. I'm sure there'll be ample opportunities to see him live! The point about "too many Hamlets"...I'm not sure about this. I remember reading that actors are often reluctant to commit to theatre, because they're always waiting for other projects to be greenlighted and can't plan ahead.

A Colin mention in the SF Chronicle (Ruthe Stein's column) yesterday:In London, where I just was, the Brits are in a dither over Reese Witherspoon arriving on their shores to play one of them in a screen adaptation of "The Importance of Being Earnest." Wait a minute. What about the slew of British actors impersonating Americans in Hollywood movies? My pounds are on Witherspoon to sound every bit as upper crust as co-stars Rupert Everett and Colin Firth.

I love Karen's Importance of Being Earnest page. Weren't they in a similar dither over Rene Zellwegger? She sure showed them! This play has a special place in my heart and it must be that way for many others; it was one of the best plays we had at my high school in St. Louis and one of my girlfriends, Helen, played in one of the lead roles. I am really looking forward to seeing this, can't wait!

Karen, ole buddie, I share the Evvy Award with you....Proud of you. Did you write your script first;-) "New Cardiff" sound like a fantastic project.Great writers, tremendous budge. Shorter hours,better pay, like you say Bethan,no touring, no fencing or having to face those hordes of fans nightly. Yuck, those seedy dressing rooms at the Riverside. Absolutely , hands-down,no- doubt -about -it, better than Hamlet. And no doubt he didn't "shake hands" with the director, like he did with NH before he signed on...don't you think?

I feigned ignorance about Hamlet and asked what Colin was doing before that. . . ."Was this going to take the place of Hamlet?" "no, he didn't think it was far enough along for that." Good job, Karen, definitely Evvy-worthy.:-) Re, the above, might I suggest that if anyone plans to call ICM in the near future that you inquire about exactly what these "film commitments" are. If they are using that as the official reason for Hamlet cancellation, then they should be prepared to respond. No doubt you'd get the "nothing firm yet" line, and my question would be, if nothing is firm, then how could that be used as the reason for him being otherwise occupied during those months? Bethan, I was also wondering about the way-in-advance ticket sales. My take is that they were going to use the advance sales to fund the production. Normally, funding would come first, then they'd hope to at least recoup their expenditure, and then some, via subsequent ticket sales. Also, I'm hearing that there's a Riverside press release quoting Fettes and that it sounds as though Concentric Circles (the producer) and Fettes/Firth are one and the same. Anyone have the full release they can share here?

it sounds as though Concentric Circles (the producer) and Fettes/Firth are one and the same It's very likely. I wouldn't be surprised - in fact I myself suspected something like that. And the abrupt way in which the ticket sales were halted must have marked the point at which something didn't add up for them.

And the abrupt way in which the ticket sales were halted must have marked the point at which something didn't add up for them. I may be talking through my hat here, as I really don't know much (anything)about this, but most British theatre is heavily subsidised (The National Theatre, Royal Shakespeare etc) and smaller theatres like the Donmar rely heavily on fundraising. Maybe "Concentic Circles" found that they couldn't actually afford to mount the production, and the "too many Hamlets" might refer to a failure to secure any kind of Arts Council grant. (Wot, another Hamlet?) Perhaps CF needs some angels. The RSC were suppposed to be giving well-known actors the opportunities for short contracts, but I should think it's a closed shop. Am I talking rubbish?

The RSC are completely restructuring the way they put together production runs, where they do them and how they offer contracts, partly as a way of getting in better known actors - since the current contract arrangement precludes many actors from signing up - the commitment required by the RSC has been longer than many are prepared to give so the new proposals should, in theory at least, enable high profile actors to work for the RSC for shorter periods of time. They have been criticised for this, in terms of "star gazing" ie re-organising purely in order to get the big names in. So, I don't think it is a closed shop as such, although whether this new way of working for the RSC actually works out in practice will be interesting to see.

Poor Nick Hornby, here he is trying to promote his NEW book, and all people are asking him about is Colin Firth!!!! He's probably on the phone to his publicist telling him to promote HIM!!! :)

Maybe "Concentic Circles" found that they couldn't actually afford to mount the production... a failure to secure any kind of Arts Council grant. (Wot, another Hamlet?) ... It is all very possible and quite likely - as are several other considerations including the fact that it would be a big time gamble as far as professional theatre critics are concerned. We know that Colin would be bloody brilliant and playing to full houses, but those critics can be unpredictable and merciless. Not that it could be one of the actual reasons for abandoning the project, but this kind of reflection *might* have made the decision easier.

The RSC were suppposed to be giving well-known actors the opportunities for short contracts, but I should think it's a closed shop. I have a big picture of Colin giving Trevor Nunn the shaft like he did Christopher Fettes. ..but those critics can be unpredictable and merciless. Not that it could be one of the actual reasons for abandoning the project, but this kind of reflection *might* have made the decision easier. Chicken...he decided to bolt because he was afraid of the critics..

Rubbish! He is an actor. He can deal with the critics! Where do you come up with that stuff?

Ooof, did you ever stumble into the wrong place to say that?! (Some are very protective of the gentleman in question!)

Chicken...he decided to bolt because he was afraid of the critics.. *He* is the one who wanted/decided to do this..it's *his* project, together with his mentor Christopher Fettes. He knows what the critics are like and that "heat-throb actors" can be unfairly savaged. But he's a very good actor, who always gives a good performance. SRB has had very good reviews, but no-one else has had good reviews recently for any Shakesperean performance. But they still perform, and audiences still go to see them! If actors worried about the critics, they'd never do anything! Perhaps we're reading far too much into all this. NH's "Too many Hamlets" could just be a glib throw-away comment. As the Man Himself said, he has film commitments (why are we doubting this?- dates often seem very fluid and unpredictable, but once it's all go, it's all go)) and he is looking into other possibilitities of working with Concentric Circles. Which could mean rescheduling Hamlet to a more convenient date. I would hope that he really has some good film offers and we'll see him in the leading roles on screen which he deserves. And then, "Hamlet". I have a big picture of Colin giving Trevor Nunn the shaft like he did Christopher Fettes. I'm sure that Christopher Fettes will have supported CF in his decision and they'll have discussed it together. If, for once, CF is finally getting some decent screen offers, he should take them (they may not come again) and establish himself as a bona fide leading man (not a cameo player to the Fiennes). He can then do as much theatre work as he wants. Finally (my last word! :-)) I can't believe CF will be happy about this. What did he say?... "my worst fears have been fulfilled". Why should we think otherwise?

Why should we think otherwise? I do agree with what you say Bethan. I am sure that Colin would not be scared off by the possibility of the critics alone. Though this is a critical point in his career I imagine and to give up on lucrative and high profile film work at this time to appear in a potentially "interesting" Japanese influenced production of Hamlet in what is not much more than a shed in W6 might be considered foolish. I suspect that Colin underestimated the effect of BJD and Conspiracy and the Hamlet was an idea to show that he was more than Darcy as well as being a part he had always longed to play professionally. The stakes are just too high right now. The fact that he might have underestimated the effect of his recent work is to his credit. Surely we like him because of his lack of vanity and ego.

I suspect that Colin underestimated the effect of BJD and Conspiracy and the Hamlet was an idea to show that he was more than Darcy as well as being a part he had always longed to play professionally. I think you've hit the nail on the head, Allison. BJD could easily have gone the other way for him (the BJ backlash)and I'm sure he would have anticipated/expected this - mediocre box office returns and "Colin Firth reprises Darcy..."yawn" ". As it is, the success of BJD in the UK alone is staggering (�40million and still drawing in the crowds) and the Emmy nom for "Conspiracy" means that he is taken seriously as an actor. Japanese influenced production of Hamlet in what is not much more than a shed in W6... I had wondered if he was "underselling" himself in terms of location (unless Riverside offers more flexibility for staging.) Most "stars" head automatically for the West End, and short runs are possible (any production headed by Colin Firth and Geraldine James would sell out). By contrast, the Malvern Theatre and Oxford Playhouse are both "conventional" theatres...Malvern seats 800.

(Bethan) NH's "Too many Hamlets" could just be a glib throw-away comment. That was my take on the comment too. he has film commitments (why are we doubting this?- Because he didn't have film commitments when he planned his stage appearance. No one did, not even the A-list stars. The strike was pending and nothing was set for 2002. Whether he has a film commitment now is almost irrelevant. The point is that he didn't when all the wheels were set in motion for his stage appearance, and commitments were made by the theater, director, the production company, tickets were sold, etc. Time and money were expended by individuals and businesses. But I guess that's the cost of doing business. dates often seem very fluid and unpredictable, but once it's all go, it's all go As opposed to theater, where it's only a go until a better offer comes along. He can then do as much theatre work as he wants. It's not as if all the theaters and directors are just waiting for Colin to pick up a phone and give them a call. He hasn't paid his dues in serious theater for a long time. 3DOR, while good theater and receiving good reviews, wasn't considered a serious work in London, rightly or wrongly, that's a fact. It didn't get stellar reviews or important awards. It was a great step for Colin, an important one, but it still didn't legitimize him as an important or serious theater performer. Whether he ever achieves that image (similar to Ralph Fiennes or Kenneth Branagh) remains to be seen. But the material point is that he certainly won't have theater doors open to him because of his body of work and his professionalism. They may be open to him because of his star power, but then let's not complain about stunt casting in the future. Had he mounted a successful Hamlet, then he could have written his own ticket, imo. Many of the theater heavyweights (RF, KB) can call of lot of their shots, because they've formed long-term friendships and alliances with directors and companies. There's an element of trust, not to be underestimated. Perhaps the likes of RF, KB, Dench, Jacobi, etc. have backed out of commitments at this stage, and if they have, then I shall stand corrected and publicly apologize. But a commitment is a commitment. If we, his fans, are taken aback by his pull-out, then consider what theater insiders must be thinking. They've watched from the sidelines and seen Riverside get burned. We don't know the details, but I suspect Riverside took it in the shorts, so to speak, financially. (Allison) this is a critical point in his career I imagine and to give up on lucrative and high profile film work at this time to appear in a potentially "interesting" Japanese influenced production of Hamlet in what is not much more than a shed in W6 might be considered foolish... Surely we like him because of his lack of vanity and ego. Seems that his lack of vanity and ego would have caused him to honor his commitment rather than go for the $. Just imo.

Hello there. I am very upset too about this Hamlet business, I had tickets for the second night. Humph. And I feel sorry for the Riverside as well. But I was wondering, if Nick Hornby knew about the cancellation so quickly, it's possible that CF's filming commitment is something high-profile and widely discussed - ie BJD2?

It looked to me as if this was very much a Firth/Fettes production. This was not a case of the National Theatre putting on a production and inviting Colin. This was something cooked up between CF and his old mentor. Hence the location. The only people put out are those who had already booked seats. That's not to underestimate that but to talk of his ratting on producers, theatre companies etc is probably overreacting to what actually has happened.

(Allison) The only people put out are those who had already booked seats. That's not to underestimate that but to talk of his ratting on producers, theatre companies etc is probably overreacting to what actually has happened. I hope you are right. But there are lots of hidden costs involved, and if Firth/Fettes reimburses those, then they are to be commended. I wouldn't have used the word "ratting", because Colin is an honorable man. I'm just disappointed that he pulled out of the production. I'm just curious who will reimburse Riverside for the cost of issuing the tickets, fees paid to FirstCall, credit card processing fees, etc. And if Riverside's statement about upgrading their computer systems is true, then the timing begs certain questions. Would they have gone through that expense now if they knew that they'd have to return all the money so soon? Did the unexpected rush for tickets and revenue accelerate their capital expenditure plans? Would they have severed their ties with FirstCall otherwise? Why will it take up to several months for people to get their refunds? Was the ticket money spent to cover other costs? And now Riverside (or someone) has to secure funds to refund everyone?

For my taste there are too little facts known to make a good speculation. But I'm convinced that he must have had *very* good reasons to back out. He - or any professional actor - would not cancel such a (pet?) project lightly, let alone after making it public. My guess is that it is BJD II that came in the way. It cannot be made without him and Renee Zellweger, or can it? Work schedule clashes with RZ? Oh, now I *am* speculating ;-).

It looked to me as if this was very much a Firth/Fettes production... Colin.......to talk of his ratting on producers, theatre companies etc is probably overreacting to what actually has happened. Again, I agree. The only person he'll be disappointing will be himself, and of course, everyone who was looking forward to his performance. But I see no reason why he shouldn't re-schedule at a more convenient date. Seems that his lack of vanity and ego would have caused him to honor his commitment rather than go for the $. Just imo If he's been offered a high profile screen role, why shouldn't he take it? He has a family to support. Roles in DQ and off-West End productions won't even pay his food bills. He needs high profile film roles to subsidise theatre roles. And he's 40....time he had his breakthough! 3DOR... didn't get stellar reviews or important awards. It was a great step for Colin, an important one, but it still didn't legitimize him as an important or serious theater performer. It *did* get stellar reviews. And CF has paid his dues in the theatre...initially he was better known as a stage actor than a "movie actor". Can we please give the poor man a break?!!!. I'm sure that he'll do his best to give us "Hamlet" at a later date. BTW, There's a review of "Cymbeline" at the Globe, which might indicate what sort of production "Hamlet" could be. Cymbeline is low-budget (6 performers only, doubling up for smaller parts, all dressed in white). "There's a distinct Japanese flavour...a battle in a series of stylised poses, whiterobed musicians in the background striking gongs, the setting for each scene is announced (minimal scenery etc)..."the main effect is to stress the purely narrative element in the play, and this makes for unusual clarity". If Fettes and CF were thinking along these lines, I think they would have had a successful production, without the need for sponsorship,...and I very much hope we still see it. Maybe later in the year. I rest my defence!! :-)

It *did* get stellar reviews. And CF has paid his dues in the theatre...initially he was better known as a stage actor than a "movie actor". I can't let this go by, Lizbeth. Six (6) productions on stage in 20 years of acting does not constitute paying one's dues in the theatre. If it were 15 (anywhere!) I might call Colin a stage actor. His media are film and television.

Well I think it's a damn shame. And it's not *just* a drool thing, it's a drama thing too. He would have been a fabulous Hamlet. A part which involves standing around aloofly with a lot going on under the surface - now who can we think of who could carry that off well I wonder? If it is BJD2 he is doing instead - by God, there had better be a LOT of Mark-Darcy-in-a-towel scenes to make up for this disappointment.

I don't think it has anything to do with being afraid of what the critics *might* say about his performance, but the reality of a glut of Hamlets over the course of the year. Since most of you haven't spoken with Nick Hornby, I didn't get sense that this was a "throwaway" line. When he's being cute, it shows in his face and in the tone of his voice. (Ursula) if Nick Hornby knew about the cancellation so quickly, it's possible that CF's filming commitment is something high-profile and widely discussed - ie BJD2? If there had truly been a high-profile film commitment, why haven't we heard anything? Names are always floated for big productions coming from this side of the Pond. There are always leaks. There's no way it's BJDII. He has no *firm* commitment on that one. He has to see the script first and there isn't one. (Donna) But the material point is that he certainly won't have theater doors open to him because of his body of work and his professionalism. They may be open to him because of his star power, but then let's not complain about stunt casting in the future. Had he mounted a successful Hamlet, then he could have written his own ticket, imo. I definitely agree with this. He hasn't paid his dues in theatre and won't achieve the regard accorded RF or KB or any of the actors he's stated in the past that he admires (the old boys) with this stunt. (Donna) but I suspect Riverside took it in the shorts, so to speak, financially. They sure did. BTW, I don't read the Fettes' statement as saying that he and Colin *are* Concentric Circles, only that CF's production was to launch *his* company. Fettes' partner is Alpha Hopkins.

(Bethan)The only person he'll be disappointing will be himself, and of course, everyone who was looking forward to his performance. You can throw in Riverside...and if you don't believe it, give 'em a call. They'll give you an ear full. Some folks have. (Bethan)...if he's been offered a high profile screen role, why shouldn't he take it? He has a family to support. Roles in DQ and off-West End productions won't even pay his food bills. He needs high profile film roles to subsidise theatre roles. And he's 40....time he had his breakthough! I would think he would have more integrity than that, Bethan. That's a pretty hard indictment . He *knew* what the Hamlet salary was when he signed up for it. Though I do agree (sadly) with your premise....he did it for the Almight Dollah! When the good prospects come knockin'....commitments go out the window. Whoppee..let the good times roll!

(Bethan)I can't believe CF will be happy about this. What did he say?... "my worst fears have been fulfilled". If you believe *that*...I have a bridge to sell you;-) (Bethan)Why should we think otherwise? Because he has a habit of changing stories ;-) (Chris)Six (6) productions on stage in 20 years of acting does not constitute paying one's dues in the theatre. If it were 15 (anywhere!) I might call Colin a stage actor. His media are film and television. Agree...he is a TV actor ..principally. Trying desperately to break into films as a leading man.($$$$)Theatre is not his forte.Why am I surprised that he dumped the production??

Maybe he's committed to another film with Mike Binder. *snort*

or he's been offered that plum role of the masturbatory village pervert... and really could any of us blame him for snapping that up?

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ROTF...Too funny. I needed that laugh. Also like your caption under Hamlet graphic and on front page: "Tis not to be"...Brilliant. If Moon was here we could do Ten Reasons Why.... Too Many Hamlets....Too Many Hamlets...Too Many Hamlets..

teehee loved the Hamlet graphic and the jumping pooh bears! Like you, Evelyn, I needed the laugh. Hope you've had a good birthday weekend

Ten reasons why its not so bad that Hamlet's cancelled: 1, Hamlet keeps his shirt on all the time; 2, there's no need for anyone to ride a horse; 3, only Ophelia gets to fall in a river and get her clothes wet; 4, everybody dies 5, because if it was brilliant you'd have to bankrupt yourself going to London every weekend to see it; 6, we'd all have to start incorporating Shakespeare dialogue into our everyday language; 7, in a film you can at least replay the good bits; ummmm ... help me out!

Karen, loved the Pythonesque graphic. We'll probably never know Colin's top ten reasons for not doing Hamlet. productions get cancelled for all sorts of reasons. Maybe the "schedule conflict" was a discreet way out of some other problem with the production. If he does have a film lined up for that time, I just hope it turns out to be really good!

I forget who brought up the point of Riverside being out of pocket due to the Hamlet production being cancelled ( re refunding booking, credit card fees etc etc ) However my sister works in theatre and, she told me most theatres have insurance that limits out of pocket expenses, if a planned production doesn't get off the ground. Also I think we are forgetting how uncertain and fickle the world of theatre can be. Nothing and I do mean nothing is taken for granted until the curtains come up on opening night. My sister is a very highly thought of Costume Designer and she goes thru a constant process of being offered work, having it cancelled, or dates changed and all kind of messing that we, in predictable 9 to 5, jobs would probably find unbearable. It doesn't bother her however, she just knows that it is the nature of the beast. What happened with Riverside is not all that unusual, althought I admit letting it get to the stage that tickets had already gone on sale, before cancelling, is unusual. I would imagine that the powers that be in any theatre ( not just Riverside ) that hires famous actors/heart throbs/national icons for their productions, always HAVE to keep one eye on the fact that their star may have other demands on their time, that may conflict with their stage work. This has to be especially true when the actor in question is Britan's favouite smouldering hunk of repressed passion. N'est pas ? Yes its awful that this got cancelled after so many of you had bought tickets and planned trips, myself included. However, I don't think its fair to accuse CF of selling out to the Almight Dollar, that's just not right. Movie and TV work have been his bread and butter for the past 20 years. What's so wrong about his continuing in that vein, especially now that his movie star has never burned brighter ?

Ten reasons why its not so bad that Hamlet's cancelled: ummmm ... help me out! How about: 8, Although Hamlet mentions "country matters" he doesn't actually get to partipate in any (i.e., no love scenes). 9, CF's fans who either don't live in UK or can't afford to fly over to London to see Hamlet will get to see him in whatever film he makes instead.

By the way, can someone tell me what has happened to Topic #112 the Darcy Drool ? I can't see it listed in the Topic List anymore. Has it used up all of its 1999 posts and been retired ?

Beth, I agree with you. This bashing is totally unfair.

The above is not *bashing* It is merely people stating their opinions, which is allowed here. Some of us don't buy the official statement. That is our prerogative. In addition, not everyone believes there's a monetary factor behind the motives. However, those who do are free to believe that. We've been very tolerant of anonymous people coming here and rendering judgments on our discussions without contributing anything themselves. But there are limits...and I've reached it.

I agree with you. This bashing is totally unfair. However, I don't think its fair to accuse CF of selling out to the Almight Dollar,that's just not right. Why? I'm giving my opinion.It's not libelous.Folks have different opinions on his motives for giving Hamlet the finger.Me? I think it's bucks.Like Bethan says, he's 41, has a family, needs the money, fame doesn't last forever... So there. You don't like it..Bethanne, Mystery Man , anybody else?...scroll through it.

(Beth)By the way, can someone tell me what has happened to Topic #112 the Darcy Drool ? I can't see it listed in the Topic List anymore. Has it used up all of its 1999 posts and been retired ? I've been writting something reasently...try under last-weeks-posts. It is not filled up yeat:)

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Ack, now I'm in trouble for DEFENDING Our Darling Boy. Who woulda thunk ????? No hard feeling people, we are all entitled to our opinions.

(Beth)Ack, now I'm in trouble for DEFENDING Our Darling Boy. Who woulda thunk ????? don't understand it eather...well, I wouldn't have had the chance to see that play anyway...but of cource I'm sorry for those who did, and I do think some bitterness is entitled..(God, if I had had a ticket,I would have been devistated too!!!)

Diane, I was planning a trip to London to see it too, but I suppose my disappointment is alieviated by my knowing how fickle the theatre world can be. But I would gladly sacrafice my 3 hour thrill ride of watching Colin strut his stuff on stage, if it means he can get another BJD type megahit under his belt. Generous of me isn't it ? Smacks self on the head and runs screaming from the room.......

(Beth) What happened with Riverside is not all that unusual, althought I admit letting it get to the stage that tickets had already gone on sale, before cancelling, is unusual I wonder if the play was announced and tickets went on sale as early as they did because someone decided to capitalize on the popularity of BJD. the theater is not exactly a stable business. We subscribe to Roundabout Theater in NYC, and each year, when the renewall comes, some of the schedule of 6 plays is TBA. We just cross our fingers that we'll like what they do. I think they announced "Cabaret" twice and didn't do it before they finally got the production together. (Once, I think it was because they couldn't find the right space to do it in. another time, I think they said that they had casting problems.) Meanwhile, they substituted other plays. And once they did get "Cabaret" together, it was a hit (won Tonys and is and still running). So maybe Hamlet will eventually get its run (maybe even in a westend theater), or maybe he'll find some other play to do.

(Beth)Smacks self on the head and runs screaming from the room....... LOL!!! Well, at least a BJD-type megahit, would be something one could rewind:o) Believe one should always see everything in a positive light (easy for me to say, some of you might think..yes I know...I really do!!:o\)

(Evelyn)Chicken...he decided to bolt because he was afraid of the critics Sorry, no, I DID NOT say that! I said, "NOT that it could be one of the actual reasons" and this kind of reflection MIGHT have made the decision easier. (MysteryMan)Rubbish! He is an actor. He can deal with the critics! LOL! You are teasing again, MM, are you not? Actors are particularly sensitive about criticism by their peers and their circles. Deep down at heart the praise from the professionals is what really counts. What would you rather hear: "Never mind, you were fantastic but the dumb buggers didn't get it...", or "The crowds loved it, but, darling, you were (the production was) such crap!" ? (Bethan) If actors worried about the critics, they'd never do anything! Believe me, actors DO worry. Sometimes terribly. But they soldier on: - it's part of the package of being an actor. (Allison)to appear in a potentially "interesting" Japanese influenced production of Hamlet in what is not much more than a shed in W6 might be considered foolish. (Bethan)Most "stars" head automatically for the West End, and short runs are possible Precisely! You've got it! By Jove, they've got it! There are reasons why SUCH a production at THIS time in particular COULD be viewed as an unwise move. (Donna DL)If we, his fans, are taken aback by his pull-out, then consider what theater insiders must be thinking. They've watched from the sidelines and seen Riverside get burned. Theatre insiders will have known more about the real reasons - which we don't. Not yet, anyway. And Riverside is only a space rented to various art and entertainment companies, they're used to cancellations. his lack of vanity and ego would have caused him to honor his commitment rather than go for the $ Whether we like it or not, we must accept that ultimately his commitment was only to himself. (Those unable to accept it will have to consider crossing over to someone else's fan club...;-P) And I don't think he lacks vanity and ego - this is like saying he's superhuman - he is simply exceptionally good at supressing them. :-) (Donna) there are lots of hidden costs involved, and if Firth/Fettes reimburses those, then they are to be commended No doubt all the costs will be sorted out by the production company in question according to their legal obligations. Why should this worry us here? (Bethan) I'm sure that he'll do his best to give us "Hamlet" at a later date. If he waits much longer, we'll all be looking forward to his King Lear soon... ;-P ;-D (MysteryMan) This bashing is totally unfair. Are you Colin's agent, by any chance, MM? The we all have something to say to you... ;-)

(Beth) Ack, now I'm in trouble for DEFENDING Our Darling Boy. Who woulda thunk ????? Oh, hon. You're not in trouble. Say what you like. I'm of the opinion that, just because you admire an actor, doesn't mean he has to be treated as though he's infallible. If we sometimes criticize him here, it's only because we want him to do better and be better recognized for his talents. Hamlet was just such a role. And, let's not forget, this isn't a situation where the Riverside hired him to be in the play. When you post at Drool, we don't ask you to check your brain at the door...that is, unless you are staying up nights dreaming up clever aliases to use.

unless you are staying up nights dreaming up clever aliases to use. How about those with the knack of inventing clever aliases on the spot?

Say again?

just because you admire an actor, doesn't mean he has to be treated as though he's infallible. If we sometimes criticize him here, it's only because we want him to do better and be better recognized for his talents. Amen.We have never spoken as "one" on this board. Because we admire his work, does not mean that we light candles at his feet and condone everything he says and does; whether we agree with it or not. That's not a fan club..that's a cult.I separate his acting abilities with his persona. He is a fabulous actor. I go to great lengths to see his work & will continue to do so. We all want the best for him. To voice my opinion of his actions or choices does not diminish my admiration for his performances. Kindly do not misconstrue what I say.

I confess that if I had had the time off work and the money, and had already made arrangements to go to London to see CF, I would be bitterly disappointed, too. However, maybe there are circumstances that we know nothing about that caused CF to cancel Hamlet. And if they are fairly personal, we may never know them. The thing that I always try to remember about film and/or stage projects of my favorite performers is that if you don't know all of the facts (as known to the actor), then you can't really know why they choose/don't choose to do the projects you would like them to do. Even their public statements about the matter can only give the bare bones of what are sometimes very complicated matters involving legal commitments, schedule conflicts, etc. It might even be that CF had a once-in-a-lifetime chance to work on a film with someone, or about something, that he just couldn't afford to pass up (either professionaly or monetarily). So I guess what I'm trying to say, is that we should assume that CF had very good reasons for doing what he did, until it is definitely shown otherwise. Or have we given up on the "not guilty until proven otherwise" presumption? Just my 2 cents' worth.

(Karen) Say again? Ooops. Just a silly aside... ;-) ;-) ;-)

(Echo) No doubt all the costs will be sorted out by the production company in question according to their legal obligations. Why should this worry us here? Wait to see how long it takes to get your money refunded. :-)

That's the ticket office business. Unless Riverside goes bust there should be no problem. :-)

(Echo) No doubt all the costs will be sorted out by the production company in question according to their legal obligations. Why should this worry us here? (Donna)Wait to see how long it takes to get your money refunded. :-) Hey, that's why I'm calling Mastercard tomorrow early. To alert them to the situation at Riverside and get the wheels grinding on my refund, which I expect to see reflected in my next month's bill. (I was the banker... so we're talking 270. UKP) I feel sorry for those guys, but they've kept my money long enough. They are not a subscription theatre, like the Donmar (or Roundabout in NYC) They have no endowment.I hope they have insurance. But if they go bankrupt, your money is lost.Incidentaly, that's why ticket prices keep going up...the consumer ultimately pays for the insurance costs. Period.

"Hey, that's why I'm calling Mastercard tomorrow early. To alert them to the situation at Riverside and get the wheels grindingon my refund, which I expect to see reflected in my next month's bill. (I was the banker... so we're talking 270. UKP) " I would like my money back also, but can you explain what can the credit card company do if Riverside does not post the refund? What is it what we can tell the credit card company which would facilitate the refund? Any good idea would be appreciated.

that's why ticket prices keep going up...the consumer ultimately pays for the insurance costs. Period. That applies to everything, not only theatre.

From Riverside's cancellation letter signed by the director: " The amount that you paid will be refunded directly to your credit card over the next couple of months and we will write to you again with confirmation of the refund."

Never mind "the next couple of months" bit...they can do better than that. I will let you know what the credit card co says to me.

Another thought occurs to me. I mean CF's career choices DO occupy far more of my brain cells, than dull trivial stuff like earning a living, paying bills etc etc Anyhoo, this "other project" that is preventing Col from doing Hamlet....maybe he comitted to THAT before he committed to doing Hamlet and, he is doing the honourable thing by sticking with it, as opposed to following his hearts desire and doing Hamlet. So maybe he isn't such a cad after all. ( Jeez, I can't believe I just said that or even thought it. ) This film that he will be working on may have has its production date messed with, coz of the threat of the screenwriters strike hanging over the entire industry. It may have been posponed ( as a bunch of stuff was ) until the potential strike issue was resolved. Now that it has been and they are all set to start production, maybe it's just Colin's bad luck that they planned it during Hamlets run. The prep work/financing that goes into movies is far, far longer and more detailed than theatre productions. It could well be, that Col had been approached and agreed to star in the movie, simply AGES before Hamlet at Riverside was even thought about. So once Col had the decision to make, of which one to cancel, I can't really blame him for picking Hamlet. Telling the movie people to bugger off, may not be the wisest move for an actor who earns 99.9% of his living doing TV and fim work, especially if he HAD committed to that first. Pointless conjecturings maybe, but hey, we just talked at length, about the value of long socks versus short ones didn't we, over at the Bridget topic ?

(Evelyn) Never mind "the next couple of months" bit...they can do better than that. I think in the US, there's a legal time limit on how long a company can retain your funds if you are entitled to a refund. I'm not sure how that would work with international sales, but it might be worth asking about that from the credit card company. And I'm not sure when the clock starts. Whether it is from the time that you are notified by Riverside (and who knows how long that will take), or the time that you notify Riverside, or something else.

Please, Beth, I beg of you--no more about socks!

I agree Kate. It's time to pick a different piece of CF underwear to analyse and discuss. Ideas anyone ?

It's time to pick a different piece of CF underwear to analyse and discuss. First nominations for CF underwear (Round 1): my favorites--Arsenal boxer shorts in "Fever Pitch" versus "nothing at all" in P&P2 (per CF's comments on Fresh Air re the "failed" underwear attempts for wet shirt scene). Personally, I would have to go with "nothing at all", but some purists might argue that this does not qualify as a "piece of CF underwear". What do you think?

O it counts, believe me it counts. CF in the raw has to be the best kind of underwear at all. I'm gonna go with whatever he was wearing under those rust colour breeches he wore, while walking around the grounds at Pemberley with Lizzie.

(Beth)I'm gonna go with whatever he was wearing under those rust colour breeches he wore, while walking around the grounds at Pemberley with Lizzie. LOL...I can well believe it;o)

*stacking bushel baskets full of sour grapes* Had I been Hamlet-bound, I suppose I would have been quite disappointed as well. Speculation as to what really happened makes for interesting discussion. It seems to me there *were* too many Hamlets (c'mon, even my dog was doing Hamlet). It also seems to me that cancelling so far in advance is not extraordinary. I do agree with those who are of the opinion that the 'film commitments' rationale is as phoney as MysteryMan's alias. I would love to hear how CF's agent would wiggle out of that one. Time will tell, as always. *twiddling thumbs*

I have contacted my credit card company. They suggest I fax acopy of billing statement to Resolution Dept for "dispute over transaction due to cancellation".They only take such disputes 60 days after billing statement which is the end of this week for me. Rep said Riverside can refund sooner than a few months. I'm done.... ~~~~~~~~~~ MOVIN' ON DEPT......(no remarks;-D) Last night I saw a trailer on HBO for Madonna's concert on August 26. I'm thinking in the next few weeks we'll see one for Londinium. Whatta think, boss? Pl. God...they don't show SM first during the Max Binder Adoration Festival, or no one will tune into L.

Speaking of HBO, I caught the tail-end of an HBO commercial about all their Emmy noms. Looked like they were highlighting each and every major nomination. Was Colin shown? The shorter ad (after SATC and 6ftunder) didn't go into the detail as the pre-show one.

Colin was shown!!! I saw it;)

And also told Bill that next time Conspiracy is on I WANT TO WATCH it. He saw it and said it was excellent, then changed the station on me!

Back online after technical problems, couldn't have been worse news to find. It's such a shame for everyone involved, especially those who had planned to come from overseas. I am sorry not to be seeing ODB as Hamlet. I recently saw Sam West (dismissed in someone's post "as not having good reviews") in fact I think it was The Sunday Times who recommended it as one of the top 5 plays to see . I thought it was a really good performance,( that has undoubtedly matured since the early, less favourable reviews) on an enlarged new stage at Statford, without any scenery at all. You have to be some actor to carry the soliloquies off in that setting! And SW can, believe me. I remember thinking how wise it was of CF to choose a more intimate setting for his first foray into Shakespeare for so long! 'Nuff said, I have had my say, as has everyone else, so am happy to move on.... After a brisk encounter with a vodka bottle and some branston pickle that is.

(Evelyn) MOVIN' ON DEPT...... 'Fraid not. Lots of people have been away from their computers since Friday. I'll be watching the windows when AnnW finds out. :-( (Karen) I caught the tail-end of an HBO commercial about all their Emmy noms. (Laura) Colin was shown I'm glad to hear it. I must've missed the Emmy plug entirely; by the time I tuned in they were touting their fall premium movie line-up (Battlefield Earth? Honestly...).

(Evelyn)fame doesn't last forever... So maybe CF's decision to cancel Hamlet was influenced by our discussion of WoF on #98 ;-) ;-)! Sorry, I know you've changed the subject, but I wasn't able to contribute to the postings yesterday.

(Evelyn) MOVIN' ON DEPT...... (Eileen)'Fraid not. Lots of people have been away from their computers since Friday. Hey, I'm not a DC (Drool Cop). I don't speak for everyone on this board. I mean"t *me*!I'm movin on [this board] But ...*emails*...different story. Lots goin on *there*. *hee, hee*. PS. Ann W knows...She's in shock.There is a current malaise known as "Hamlet Misery". But we'll get over it.Hey, we're a tough bunch. PPS. I called the agent....But like I said..."I'm moving on" ;-D

Well I won't be defeated by a mind changing Dane or a stick insect actress playing Ophelia.... just need time...... hic hic.

(Evelyn) I mean"t *me*! Sorry, I interpreted your capital letters for SHOUTING. ;-P we'll get over it.Hey, we're a tough bunch. Of course. Heck, it took me awhile to get over the Flashman debacle. *snort*

(Evelyn) MOVIN' ON DEPT...... (Eileen)'Fraid not. Lots of people have been away from their computers since Friday. Feel free to comment. The window to vent has no spleen. ;-) signed, Mrs Malaprop

It's okay Eileen I'm cool ( and if you believe that you'll believe anything!!) but why do these things always happen to COLIN FIRTH Fans (and I am shouting and pulling my hair out what little there is!). Perhaps I should become a Raffe Feinnes or Kenneth Branagh fan (not). Oh well I am glad we had a little reunion in New York in March and I was able to meet up with you Eileen and so many other lovely ladies. There will be another time I am sure, not today not tomorrow but soon. hee hee life goes on.

Evelyn-I'd love to hear what the agent said, if repostable. Chances are "Hamlet who?" :-D

Thanks for posting the Riverside Press Release at the Bucket, Karen. I hope I'm not being inbearably optimistic, but there seem to be some grounds for hope that we may see "Hamlet" at a late date, when CF is less "hot", and also Concentric Circles (Fettes/Firth) seem to have longer-term plans (other productions?), not just a one-off. If it's any consolation, Alan Rickman played Hamlet at Riverside at the age of 45, to mixed reviews, but to a sell-out and, I'm sure, very enthusiastic audience. (Do reviews really matter in the long run?) CF is a youthful 40...time is still on his side! HAMLET Riverside Studios, London W6 Opened 15 September, 1992 Reviews on these pages are meant primarily to recommend or to warn off potential theatregoers, and in this case whatever I say will make no difference the show was completely sold out long before it opened, on the strength of culture-hunk Alan Rickman in the name part . Which may be as well, because it's not actually very wonderful at all. Georgian director Robert Sturua was one of producer Thelma Holt's eye-opening cultural imports over a decade ago, but he fails to invest this play with freshness or energy; the flatness is exacerbated by extensive but clumsy use of a T-shaped stage gallery and a sound score that could be jettisoned wholesale without injuring the production. Rickman gives a competent but uninspired reading as the Prince: moderately, not corrosively, sardonic and seldom overwrought either in his agonies of thought or fiery bursts of action. The other principals, however, fall well short of the mark: Geraldine McEwan's Gertrude is irritatingly mimsy, Michael Byrne's Polonius begins shrewdly but loses his way, and Adrian Rawlins' Laertes wants to be Gerard Murphy. After the one interval (late, at the two-hour mark), Sturua's erratic cutting leads to an unsettling scramble towards the most terse duel I've ever seen: blink and you miss Gertrude's poisoning, Hamlet's fatal wounding and Laertes' suicide � suicide? Nobody realistically expects a major revelatory Hamlet these days, but we still have that nagging hope; and from a team of such pedigree, this is a sadly underwhelming experience. ....................... Moving on, well, I saw copies of "New Cardiff" in Waterstones today and was tempted to buy one. (Okay, I know, I know, tempting fate, but I've never had any regrets about buying the "Flashman" novels -all are a terrific read. "New Cardiff" looks good, and is, I think, one of those books that you can instantly envisage as a movie. It's set (mainly)in small town Vermont. It's rather confusing to have a main character called Colin. Colin (fictitious)enjoys sex! Review from alphabetstreet.co.uk London artist Colin Ware and his lifelong companion Vera first 'met' when they kicked together as their pregnant mothers sat next to each other in the doctor's waiting room. They became like Siamese twins. They had great sex. They were getting married - until Vera sent Colin an invitation to her marriage to someone else. Escaping to America, Colin discovers in New Cardiff, Vermont, an innocence, warmth and eccentricity that seduces and transforms him. With a passionate kiss in the Revolutionary War Monument he falls hopelessly in love with Mandy, an attendant on break from the local care home, and in Colin�s motel room they explore each other culturally as well as sexually. So when Vera arrives to reclaim him - profuse in her explanations and apologies for the 'wedding' that sent him on his journey - it's a very different Colin she encounters. Poignant and acutely comic, with a mesmerising fairy-tale quality, New Cardiff begins with a broken heart.

*What* does Alan Rickman's review have to do with Colin? Like who gives a s*** about Alan Rickman.Do I post RF reviews or the current SW reviews? Jeeeez. "New Cardiff" sounds like a winner though. (Evelyn-I'd love to hear what the agent said, if repostable. Not a chance , sorry.I'm done. But apparently some poor PA at ICM drew the short straw today;-)

*taking Evelyn's virtual blood pressure* Yikes! (Bethan) Moving on, well, I saw copies of "New Cardiff" in Waterstones today and was tempted to buy one. While you're at it, buy one for Evelyn so she can put it on her nightstand. *ducking* ;-P he falls hopelessly in love with Mandy, an attendant on break from the local care home Aha! Ahahaha! CF is a shoe-in for this part. What better project to follow TIOBE? ;-D

Just a reminder--has everyone voted at etonline? Ewan is moving up at 27% and Colin is at 36%. I know we're a little pissed off at Colin at the moment, but we still want him to win, don't we?

(Eileen)*taking Evelyn's virtual blood pressure* Yikes! LOL. I'm perpetually low...along with my spirits at the moment. (Bethan) I saw copies of "New Cardiff" in Waterstones today and was tempted to buy one. (Eileen)While you're at it, buy one for Evelyn so she can put it on her nightstand. No need to duck....Neelie,Actually, I'm gonna buy one as soon as the boss finds a place that doesn't charge postage .*sucker E.* "..he falls hopelessly in love with Mandy, an attendant on break from the local care home" "local care home?" Omigod...another nursing home movie?? Now he's even gonna shoot in one!

Mrs slow-off-the-mark part 2 - is the Reece Witherspoon diary thing with TIOBE bits in it going to be shown on MTV UK, does anyone know? or have I already missed it? all I could find was a J-Lo diary which aired today

It's his DQ sequel! I can hear that Van Morrison soundtrack reprise coming thro' loud and clear.

I'm gonna buy one as soon as the boss finds a place that doesn't charge postage. LOL! Why don't we just send Aishling to Tescos to buy in bulk? ;-) Are we going to start posting reviews of this book already, even though nothing has been confirmed? I hope not. But I did get a kick out of one in the Telegraph that ended like this:And New Cardiff is slight in more ways than one. By cunningly inserting double-spacing between the paragraphs, the publishers have transformed a slim novella into a hefty volume which they can sell for �12.99. Call me old-fashioned, but I do like the words in novels to go right down the page. And I don't like being duped into buying half a book at full price.Evidently since it's all dialogue, adapting it to screen should be a no-brainer. ;-) (Kate) I know we're a little pissed off at Colin at the moment, but we still want him to win, don't we? Anyone want to ask worthless, lying agent whether Colin would appear if he won or they *said* he won?

Because we admire his work, does not mean that we light candles at his feet and condone everything he says and does; whether we agree with it or not. 100% agree. ...Now, as soon as I *find out* what he's said and done, I'll let you know what I think about it... ;-) ;-) **very sad and content to lurk until all is serene again** .. KJ

(KJ)...Now, as soon as I *find out* what he's said and done, I'll let you know what I think about it...;-) ;-) Where have you been? Read Press release on The Bucket. http://www.spring.net/karenr/mdbro/hamlet2.html

Maybe the reason *is* fame doesn't last forever. CF is hot right now with BJD and the Emmy nomination for Conspiracy. If he's committed to Hamlet, film producers and directors will assume he is not available for movies during those 7 months. As a result, he'll be omitted from a lucrative market when he's the most marketable. He (and his agent presumably) might feel like he will forego lucrative opportunities if he does Hamlet. He can always do Hamlet later, when he "cools off" a little. After all, the movie producers want to get their product out as soon as possible, especially if they're counting on ODB's sizzle to help sell their movies. On the other hand, Hamlet isn't likely to get stale as a possible role for someone like ODB. You know the saying: "Get it while your hot, because you'll be cold for a long, long time." (We know that law of nature doesn't apply to CF, but can he really know that???) He's probably thinking of his financial obligations to his family as well. I realize that the change in his plans is unfortunate for many. I hope you are all able to get your money back easily and soon. I would be upset, too, if I had purchased tickets.

And it's NOT just ODB that some of us are upset at not seeing, Colin is part of , but not the whole equation for some of us ;-)

Hamlet isn't likely to get stale as a possible role for someone like ODB. No, but the opposite will eventually apply... I think he is human, after all! :-) But apart from Rickman who was 45 when he - apparently clumsily - grabbed his opportunity, Laurence Olivier himself was about 43 or 44 when making his famous film version. Colin still has very youthful looks - there is still time.

The news has hit Ananova: Hamlet starring Colin Firth is cancelled A proposed production of Hamlet starring Colin Firth has been cancelled due to the actor's film commitments. The production was due to take place at London's Riverside Studios in the spring of next year. A spokesman for the production company Concentric Circles described the situation as disappointing. Colin Firth said: "My worst fears were fulfilled when my filming schedule for early next year changed, meaning I would have to withdraw from Concentric Circles' production of Hamlet. We are now exploring other possibilities of working together in the future." Fans who bought tickets for the production will have their money refunded. Artistic director Christopher Fettes said: "Colin and I had talked about Hamlet for sometime and it appeared to be the ideal production with which to launch a new theatre company, Concentric Circles. "We all knew the risk of film schedules changing but had hoped that we could make these dates work."

Wait til the press calls ICM and asks the name of the film.... They'll get: "No comment". (They're not gonna get their hands dirty)

Item in NY Post's Page Six column: Big winner FRIENDS of Colin Callender are still toasting the head of HBO's movie division on his Emmy nominations. Just a year after moving from New York to Beverly Hills with his lovely lawyer wife Elizabeth Gaine, Callender won four of the five TV movie nominations, for "Conspiracy," "For Love or Country: The Arturo Sandoval Story," "61*," and "Wit." Stars Kenneth Branagh, Andy Garcia, Barry Pepper, Judi Dench, Emma Thompson, Colin Firth and Stanley Tucci were all nominated, pushing the HBO total to 94, swamping runner-up NBC, which had 76.

Well, I'm going to be real generous here or probably awfully naive. Maybe there's more than one project out there and no commitment to any of them. He's got so much choice he can't make one!

Karen, you are way ahead of Ananova! (Ananova)"Colin and I had talked about Hamlet for sometime and it appeared to be the ideal production with which to launch a new theatre company, Concentric Circles. Am imagining who would have came to *that* launch party ;-) (Ananova)"We all knew the risk of film schedules changing but had hoped that we could make these dates work." Ah, the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. I hope all will feel better soon ;-). There are a lot of things worse than this.

(toyce)Well, I'm going to be real generous here or probably awfully naive. Maybe there's more than one project out there and no commitment to any of them. He's got so much choice he can't make one! Why not be optimistic! It may be raining screenplays! And not being able to make a choice would be very Hamlet ;-D

Wait til the press calls ICM and asks the name of the film.... A spokesperson for Colin Firth announced today that the actor is set to star in a new film, "No Comment." Sources also indicated that the production company, Parallel Lines, is tipping the actor for the sequels, "We Don't Have That Yet" and "Lots Of Irons In The Fire." All are based on the "Obfuscation" trilogy of books penned by Paul Lyin' Maris, Roger's brother. ;-)

Stop that Mari, I nearly peed my self I laughed so hard.

Mari, Excellent summation of situation! No one could put it any better!

(Mari) All are based on the "Obfuscation" trilogy of books penned by Paul Lyin' Maris, Roger's brother. LOL! Am checking amazon next. Make room on your nightstand, Ev. ;-) BTW, they all sound like Oscar material to me. *snort*

Will Obfuscation be available on DVD and will it feature cast interviews ?

Send that to the tabs, Mari.I'm sure they're digging. Do you have the "Obfuscation"page ready for the Bucket yet? I'm thinking...foggy...hazy ,murky background. To be filmed in the Moors, of course. Lots of mist there. Now you see it, now you don't...

The mists part to reveal our hero ( clad in a billowing white shirt ) striding purposely up the moor, clutching a riding crop and a credit card refund form. He is devestatingly handsome and is undoubtidly one if the most famous literary figures to ever come out of...er....literature. Who could it be, Heathcliff, Mr Darcy ??? Hearts all accross the globe begin it pound in earnest....the mists hide his face, all we can see is a delicious dimpled chin. The mists begin to part again. Could it be, could it possibly be ???... O my God....nah, its just some boring Danish guy with a bad haircut. Lose the skull babe, it ain't exactly a chick magnet.

*clap clap* Good one, Mari!

(Mari) A spokesperson for Colin Firth announced today that the actor is set to star in a new film, "No Comment." I thought it was supposed to be "New Cardiff." Don't do this to me, Mari! You had me going for a minute there! Oh, Beth, have you considered a career in screenwriting?!? It sounds like the trailer for Colin's new movie, "Concentric Circles Spiral Downward."

change of topic (had to, otherwise I'd wet my pants laughing at the stuff above) wrote to the BBC to ask when they're going to show "Conspiracy" since its an HBO/BBC co-production and its got lots of Emmy nominations; here is the (fairly useless) response: "Thank you for your e-mail. As you are aware the film 'Conspiracy 2000' which stars Kenneth Branagh and Colin Firth is in fact a joint production with HBO productions who also distribute the film. At the present time we cannot confirm whether or not we will be purchasing the rights to broadcast it. I do hope this clarifies the position for you. Thank you once again for taking the time to contact us." I've written back to say that, essentially, no the position is not clarified and since I contribute to funding the BBC then shouldn't I be able to see things that they fund and co-produce? will let you know what response I get.

'Attagirl Rachael. It IS indeed pretty stupid for the Beeb not to know if/when they are going to show a production, that they paid for.

How much you want to bet they'll come back with "No Comment."

well earlier attempts at emailing the Beeb from this corner had them telling me that they'd never HEARD of Conspiracy!

Firth things first: Bethanne and Rachael, get thee to a pharmacy to buy some Depends! Can't stand the thought of you nice people catching a chill . . .;-) Will Obfuscation be available on DVD and will it feature cast interviews ? At this point it is premature to divulge DVD content, but the audiobook of the Obfuscation trilogy--read by Congressman Gary Condit--is available wherever fine books are sold.;-) The Foreword as been authored by Bethanne. In other news, Rachael will be penning a history of the Beeb entitled "Sweet Clarity." ;-)

Thanks Mari, I do have a lot of living to do after all....not as much as I was planning on doing from Row 3 Seat 14 next Spring, but there you have it.

read by Congressman Gary Condit Come on, Mari, that's a low blow!

Beth (Bethanne) The mists part to reveal our hero ( clad in a billowing white shirt ) striding purposely up the moor, clutching a riding crop and a credit card refund form. He is desparate and mourns the loss of his best friend... ... the Great Dane, who fell victim to foot-and-mouth-disease.

(Toyce) Come on, Mari, that's a low blow! I know. But Gary's got to find something to do in between lie detector exams. ;-D C'mon Mari! More! Rachael, have you dug into the old posts to read the saga of Bethan and the BBC re: DQ? And the Beeb *had* the broadcast rights to that production.

As opposed to us who are falling victim to Footing the Credit Card bill disease. It can be pretty deadly ya know ?

(Renate) He is desparate and mourns the loss of his best friend... ...for a minute there, I thought you meant Lassie.

I was worried for a sec too, I thought she meant Mr Bingey until I saw the pic. I mean, Darcy and Bingley are THAT close are they ?

Oops that should be "aren't" that close.....O the horror !!!!

... the Great Dane, who fell victim to foot-and-mouth-disease LOL!!! But I feel you're all very hard on that poor Dane (must protect my fellow contrymen a little...)

Beth (Bethanne) The mists part to reveal our hero ( clad in a billowing white shirt ) striding purposely up the moor, clutching a riding crop and a credit card refund form. As Van Morrison sings "My Worst Fears were Fulfilled" from the hit album "Exploring Possibilities and Other Fantasies"

Eileen, no I didn't see the DQ correspondence - when it got a Bafta nomination I wrote to the BBC saying when are you going to repeat it since it got nominated and Colin is a big hit in BJD, and they wrote back saying "no plans" for repeats on either digital or normal TV. When you see the tosh that's on there most of the time it makes me really annoyed to think of the good stuff they've got that they don't repeat.

DQ (aaargh...red rag to a bull!)..the Beeb have no plans to release it as a video either (although several other lesser dramas shown on the BBC over Christmas are now available on video). So if you missed it, tough. If you want to buy it, tougher still. BBC Films (one of the many, many departments in the labyrinth) had heard of "Conspiracy" (well, they made it) and told me that it would be shown on TV. But I'm afraid I have no faith! I did see a mention of "Conspiracy" on a Dutch site though, with September as the date when it would be seen (if my guesswork translation was correct). Maybe you'll be lucky in Holland!

After consulting my Guru Richard Curtis, I've put the cancellation of Hamlet in its proper perspective. Life's real cruelties involve third-world debt, earthquakes in the Far East, testicular cancer and people starving in the Sudan. But those may be a few years old. ;-)

if you missed it, tough. If you want to buy it, tougher still. You can always try begging, borrowing or stealing.

Obfuscation Trilogy cover artwork:

LMAO! Gotta get my Windex and clean this monitor. Too too funny, Mari.

You can always try begging, borrowing or stealing. You forgot recording, multiplicating and circulating. ;-) Which we would never do, I must add! But just imagine how much money BBC would loose if we did. Tsk, tsk... I think they should release the DQ video without any further delay.

I think they should release the DQ video without any further delay. I think the whole DQ fiasco shows all the faults of the BBC. I had always been in favour of the BBC licence fee (that's the annual charge every television owner in the UK has to pay and from which the Beeb is funded)but this is leading me to change my mind. Can any one imagine a commercial company allowing this to happen? It stars one of the hottest British actors, it has award winning performances, it was universally praised by the critics and yet they, apparently belatedly, squeeze it into the schedules with no fanfare and now seem keen to drop it like a brick. Incredible. Like the Tory party (sorry for all these UK references) they are so keen to dumb down and chase the Sun reader audience that they have forgotten what they are there for. End of rant.

Allison I so agree with you!! DQ and now the Conspiracy thing, why do I pay my licence fee??? Would it be worth lots of us emailing them do you think, they're not to know who is UK based from most email addresses. They haven't answered my 2nd Conspiracy query yet.

You forgot recording, multiplicating and circulating. ;-) Moi? Nevah!!! ;-) Would it be worth lots of us emailing them do you think Writing heartfelt and well reasoned pleas to independent publications could have a better effect - at least the letters would have a better chance of getting noticed. Complaining to the culprit directly will be ignored as usual. Target film, TV, entertainment publications and national (and maybe some local, e.g. London) newspapers where Colin's name has been mentioned favourably. Shall we start a directory list of key addresses firth?

From THR (a little more salt into the wounds): HBO Programs BAFTA/LA Nod Citing HBO Original Programming for recognizing British talent and aiding the United Kingdom's industry, the British Academy of Film and Television Arts Los Angeles has selected the cable network's production unit for its Britannia Award for Excellence in Television. The honor will be bestowed at BAFTA/LA's 11th annual Britannia Awards on Nov. 10 at the Century Plaza Hotel in Los Angeles, with HBO Original Programming chief Chris Albrecht accepting the award. "We are delighted to be honoring HBO, truly one of the leading suppliers of innovative programming for the past 25 years," BAFTA/LA chairman Gary Dartnall said. "The premium cable network has long embraced Britain's most creative talent, and we recognize and honor HBO for its expansive support of our industry." HBO filmed the upcoming 10-part miniseries "Band of Brothers" in England. "Band," which focuses on an elite World War II U.S. Army unit, is executive produced by Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg. HBO projects shot in England in recent years using U.K. talent include "The Last of the Blonde Bombshells" starring Judy Dench and Ian Holm; "Wit" starring Emma Thompson; and "Conspiracy" starring Kenneth Branagh. As previously announced, the Stanley Kubrick Britannia Award for Excellence in Film will be presented to George Lucas (HR 6/6).

(Evelyn) As Van Morrison sings "My Worst Fears were Fulfilled" from the hit album "Exploring Possibilities and Other Fantasies" LOL! 'Atta girl, Ev. (Mari) Obfuscation Trilogy cover artwork *guffaw* (Karen) a little more salt into the wounds Ooh, I'll say.

(Karen) a little more salt into the wounds. Ahem...when do we start the countdown for Londinium on Sept 2nd;-)) *dodging tomahtoes from across the pond* (Mari)Obfuscation Trilogy cover artwork: LMAO, Mari.Paul and his henchmen! May I be in charge of the soundtrack? I have a few more songs that would be a propos. Never heard of BAFTA/LA Britannia awards. Wonder who else they honor. HBO deserves it.

Have received an email from someone in the UK, saying she received the cancellation letter from the Riverside this a.m.

saying she received the cancellation letter from the Riverside this a.m. Screw the letter...I want the refund.

Karen, I can top that, I recieved TWO cancellation letters from Riverside, do you think I will get two refunds?! hee hee Incidentally it says that the money will be refunded directly to the credit card over the next couple of months and that they will write to us again with confirmation of the refund. So with a bit of luck we should be refunded by Colin's birthday. Would still rather see Colin live and meet up with friends,boo hoo.

(Evelyn)May I be in charge of the soundtrack? As long as it includes Ain't No Mountain High Enough . . .the job is yours, m'dear.:-) I've heard of the Britannia Awards from BAFTA/LA. I'm pretty sure Spielberg is a prior winner. BTW, Band Of Brothers features several hundred parts--vast majority played by British actors including some of the leads. No wonder he's Sir Steve.;-) BAFTA/LA always throw a big pre-Oscar bash--wonder if they'll do the same for the Emmys? They should--British actors have a nice shot at sweeping the TV movie acting categories. Plus the Emmy people always have a big luncheon for the nominees. I'm sure HBO will be feting their folks. Colin should plan on spending a couple of party weeks here, easily.:-) Ann, I'd hold out for the double refund, absolutely!:-) From What's On Stage: Firth Cancels Hamlet Due to Film Commitments Colin Firth has cancelled his involvement in an upcoming stage production of Hamlet due to ongoing film commitments. The actor was due to star in a version at London's Riverside Studios at the start of next year but has now withdrawn after a filming agenda was altered. The production company behind the venture, Concentric Circles, have expressed their disappointment but are believed to be talking to Firth about future projects. Firth has commented that his "worst fears were fulfilled when my filming schedule for early next year changed". Concentric Circles is a new theatre company and they had hoped to launch their works with Firth in Hamlet. However, they have admitted to being aware of the risks involved with film productions and the demands on their star's time. Firth was, ironically, originally discovered whilst playing Hamlet at the Drama Centre in north London. His first major stage role came as Guy Bennett in the original West End production of Another Country. The actor later received a BAFTA nomination for his portrayal of Mr Darcy in the TV adaptation of Pride and Prejudice. A refund will be provided for customers who have already purchased tickets for Hamlet, which was to have opened on 30 January 2002. Concentric Circles will now present its planned production of Phedre with Sheila Gish during spring 2002. Fresh from her success this year in the Edward Albee double bill (Finding the Sun/Marriage Play) at the Royal National Theatre, Gish will be working with director Christopher Fettes once more. It is 20 years since they last collaborated on an acclaimed production of Berenice at the Lyric Theatre, Hammersmith. No confirmation has been signalled yet for what might take Hamlet's place on the Riverside's programme. - by Gareth Thompson

ongoing film commitments Those sound very specific. ;-D For Evelyn's approval, a few Van Morrison selections for the Obfuscation soundtrack: It's Too Late to Stop Now album: -Ain't Nothin' You Can Do -I've Been Working -Bring it on Home To Me Wavelength: -Take It Where You Find It Into the Music: -You Know What They're Writing About -It's All in the Game A Sense of Wonder: -If You Only Knew Hymns to the Silence: -Why Must I Always Explain -Village Idiot -Take Me Back Too Long in Exile: Tell Me What You Want How Long Has This Been Going On: -Your Mind Is On Vacation -Don't Worry About a Thing -That's Life -Heathrow Shuffle The Healing Game: -It Was Once My Life -Sometimes We Cry The Philosopher's Stone: -Don't Worry About Tomorrow -I Have Finally Come to Realize

Re: DQ & Conspiracy on BBC Why don't you guys go for the big fish and email Alan Yentob. At one time his email was: alan.yentob@bbc.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hey..thanks for all the titles for songs...I like "Sometimes We Cry"... Wanna be my co- muscial director?

(Elton Evie) Wanna be my co- muscial director? Whaddaya think I am, "The Fool on the Hill"? ;-)

MEDIA ALERT ~~~~~~~~~Press Release from Parallel Lines Production Co.~~~~~~~~~ The star of the film "No Comment" is also the composer of the song "Ah Feel Yo Pain" which he sings with an accent (Grammy's take note), dedicated to his fans and back -up group, Concentric Circle. Riverside Studios declined the honour

I succumbed to temptation and bought a copy of "New Cardiff". It's an absolute hoot! Haven't read it all yet, but every page has "film me" written on it. Reads more like a (very funny) screenplay. Even if it isn't made into a movie (and it has to be) I wouldn't regret buying it.

LOL Ladies, for the place to come for blues dispelling mirth, this place can't beat. Thanks ! Agree with all your Brit comments Allison. It's so therapeutic reading a good rant now and then :-) Seems like we all got our Riverside letter today. Go for double Ann!

Hope you can put that letter to good use (e.g., line the bottom of a bird cage). Has Madame Eileen checked her crystal ball lately?

(Karen) Has Madame Eileen checked her crystal ball lately? *tsk* Sorry. Ms. Moon borrowed said ball and took it to Italy. She mumbled something about Rupie and serendipity. ;-) a few Van Morrison selections for the Obfuscation soundtrack LOL! I think the How Long Has This Been Going On Album has the most relevant selections.

Evelyn you're on - an email will be going to Alan Yentob shortly, citing DQ, Conspiracy, and the BAFTA HBO thing mentioned above. I'll let youse all know if/when I hear anything (but I'm not holding my breath) - oh, and I might just bung Londinium in there - and send a note to FilmFour about Londinium too - they're supposed to support innovative British drama after all *sound of hysterical laughter in the background*

Just saw a trailer advertising what's up and coming on Film Four. Can you believe something about London as seen thro' the eyes of film!! *double hysterical laughter* Karen, lining a bird cage is too good for said sheet. Will have to come up with a "Ten uses" list :-)) As a certain lady said about ODB "Just give me time.. give me time."

Lizza, the film four "trailer" about a weekend of London film actually was for the weekend of 6/7/8 July (Fever Pitch went out on the Saturday) so its already been and gone - their July trailers are way out of date. Have emailed Alan Yentob re DQ and Conspiracy, have emailed Sunlight about Londimium - feedback as and when ... and, oooooohhhh I just went to the official Londinium site and printed off the big version of the "Colin by himself" still - now I don't normally go for facial hair, but, that pic is right in front of me and I can hardly type, he is No.1 AFG bloke! (Absolutely F***ing Gorgeous) but then you all knew that anyway .... just had to share *g*

No.1 AFG bloke! (Absolutely F***ing Gorgeous) Thanks Rachael...Newest acronym to add to the list around here....(mine anyway) Others: AAA= Apologies All Around DC = Drool Cop (Rachael)oh, and I might just bung Londinium in there - and send a note to FilmFour about Londinium too Did you send them the Londinium URL?Helps. I always include an URL if there is one.

Here's a film fest lineup with possibilities ;-) The Locarno International Film Festival (August 2-12) will have a showing of BJD in the Piazza Grande (open-air screenings for noncompetition films).

got New Cardiff today, only read ch 1 but I can see it as a film - only thing is, having the main character called Colin, and knowing the discussion here (which prompted me to buy it in the first place) its impossible to read it without hearing his voice or imagining him in the scenes - so do I like it cos I imagine ODB in it, or do I think its good anyway?? Both, I think. hmmm

OK, Moon has FedEx'd crystal ball back to me (won't tell you what she said ;-)). Am gazing now. What will Colin do next? I see a small, light blue and white box with blue lettering...A..C...U...V...U...ohmigod! Nooooooo! Nooooooooo! That's Sean Bean's job! Wait--I put ball down in front of a box of my contacts. Let's try again. *shaking ball in manner of paperweight* It's hazy, very hazy. What's that? A martini? Shaken, not stirred? ;-D That's all for now. Must get ball over to DC police, missing persons division.

LOL Eileen, toooo funny !!! Anyone else catch Sean Bean on the Vicar of Dibley last weekend, on PBS ? It ws only a small cameo part, but it was very funny.

Given your choice for cover artwork for Obfuscation Trilogy, you really must also consider these songs for soundtrack: I'm Not Your Stepping Stone (could be sung in manner of soliloquy in regard to Concentric Circles) Daydream Believer I'm a Believer Take the Last Train to.....Umbria ;-)

Thank you, Lora. elton evie and Parallel Films are taking all suggestions into consideration for soundtracks of Obfuscation Triology. ("You want me to do *three* films?") Additional song: "In Your Dreams"

This "Obfuscation" project has really gotten to be too big for a feature film. I'd feel much better if it were put into the BBC's hands. ;-)

thus guaranteeing that we will nevah, evah get to see it, coz as soon as the Beeb sign on the dotted line, they will forget that they even own the righs to the darn thing and it will be consigned to oblivion forever....sound familiar ?

Yahoo reports that HG has been offered the role of Gilderoy Lockhart in the next Harry Potter movie. I only mention this because the original report mentioned Hughie as likely to play Lockhart and CF Sirius Black (Sirius doesn't appear until Book 3)

oh, my, I can't believe I forgot to include that Davey Jones classic, "I Wanna Be Free." Must add that to the list above ;-P

Yes hand the project over to the BBC. Of course it will sink without trace, but only for a while, when at short notice it will resurface as a beeb "Xmas Special"

Then we could have such classics as "All I want for Christmas..." and "I saw Mummy kissing..." but probably "In the bleak Mid-Winter."

You people have truly been doing excellent work on the soundtrack for the trilogy "O" (to be released in France as "Eau" ;-) Keep it going . . .we've got 3 CDs-worth to fill! Here's a thought re: distribution. If the Beeb isn't interested, we can always sell it to Miramax, which will circulate, oh, 22 prints for the entire continent should do it.;-) Interesting article on Hugh Jackman in the London Times today--talks about having to strike when the iron is hot, leaving the theater for film work, of reaching a level where you get more choices opening up to you, the necessity of traveling to where the work is--and getting a sharp agent and publicist. Perhaps it could be included with the "O" CD liner notes?;-) As opposed to the OCD liner notes. As opposed to the OCD liner notes. As opposed to te OCD liner . . . sorry, I get that way when I miss a dose.;-) ;-) Bethan I read the HG Harry Potter rumor too, but today his "spokeswoman" is saying it isn't true. Still, where there's smoke . . .

advice please - have been browsing at Amazon, have got or seen most of the CF videos they list (which isn't a great selection in total) - the only 2 I haven't seen are Nostromo and Turn of the Screw, would people recommend investing in either?

Re: Credit Card Refunds. Do not discard any correspondence you receive from Riverside Studios re: the cancellation. The credit card company wishes to have this evidence for a refund.As per a telephone call I just received from the rep handling the disputed charges.

(Mari) Interesting article on Hugh Jackman in the London Times today Read that last night too (did ya notice the movie is on its third title?)...especially the part about how plans for him to reprise Curly on B'way have been cancelled. ;-) (Rachael) I haven't seen are Nostromo and Turn of the Screw, would people recommend investing in either? Colin's only in the first couple of minutes of TTOTS, so the answer is a big NO WAY, Josefina. You will probably get mixed reports about Nostromo. It's not *that* bad. I love the score, the pgymy horses, the way most of the cast looks like their dialogue has been dubbed, among other things.

The best thing about Nostromo is that Colin had a tan. He freckles adorably. And that scene in the mine is good, too. Rachael, do you have access to a library that has a video collection? I think my library has Nostromo. Perhaps one near you does, too. It's "literature," after all.

Emmy Awards will be bestowed Sept. 16 in a ceremony to be broadcast on CBS-TV. Hope he comes. Nostromo: I go for the mine scene. It's worth the cost of the video. And then there's Albert Finney who probably told him the story there about doing Hamlet at 20 or 40;-)

Yup, the mine scene does makes Nostromo worth the purchase, provided its not too expensive as it was rather dark in the mine and, we don't really see all that much...but all the sweaty groaning and panting was fun to listen to. I wonder it was really theirs, or dubbed in later. I also liked it for the lovely, exotic, steamy locations. I can just see myself, clip board in hand, specs perched sexily at the end of my nose as I go about my job of Production Assistant, catering to every need and whim of the director....when suddenly my eye catches the lambent chocoalte pools of the leading man, looking incredibly sexy on a pygmy horse, that any other actor other than Mini Me, would look ridiculous on. Our two hearts beat as one when all of a sudden....damm it, I'm woken up by my bloody cat looking for its dinner....O well, a girl can dream can't she ?

(Beeth)I can just see myself, clip board in hand, specs perched sexily at the end of my nose as I go about my job of Production Assistant, catering to every need and whim of the director....when suddenly my eye catches the lambent chocoalte pools of the leading man, looking incredibly sexy on a pygmy horse, that any other actor other than Mini Me, would look ridiculous on. Our two hearts beat as one when all of a sudden.... Beth, you should be writing romance novels!!!

Sorry Kate, but thats one plot-line someone else thought of before me, including the requisite happy ending, an idyllic farm house in Tuscany and a boucing baby boy to complete the picture of domestic bliss.

Or is Livia from Umbria ? I can never remember.

(Karen) (did ya notice the movie is on its third title?)...especially the part about how plans for him to reprise Curly on B'way have been cancelled. ;-) Yes, what's it called now--Someone Like Your Husband's Animal? ;-) HJ is on to greener $$$ pastures; too dry in Oklahoma!:-) (Evelyn) Emmy Awards will be bestowed Sept. 16 in a ceremony to be broadcast on CBS-TV. Hope he comes. Peer recognition for excellence in a dramatic role--he'll be there. I guarantee it. He's proud of this one. ODB has been smelling the Starbucks, alright. And now, having almost recovered from the traumatic prospect of a Daneless winter of our discontent (ok, so I mix 'n match 'em;-), I think Colin is doing absolutely the right thing in turning to film at this point. Timing is right for him. It's the smart move. Go for it, Colin! (Beth) incredibly sexy on a pygmy horse, that any other actor other than Mini Me, would look ridiculous on. "Mini Me, are you hungry--would you like a hot pocket? They're breathtaking.;-)" Too funny, Beth. Hey, this Hollywood Movie Awards line-up looks very credible to me. From a Variety article on the Fest: "The event will culminate with the Hollywood Movie Awards ceremony Aug. 6 at the Beverly Hilton. Presenters and guests include directors Michael Apted, James L. Brooks, Anthony Minghella, Sydney Pollack, Ridley Scott, Tony Scott and Penny Marshall; and actors Sandra Bullock, Harrison Ford, Sally Kellerman and Charlize Theron." C'mon and vote, folks! Colin's lead over You-in is only 36% to 27%. Too close for comfort, and God knows what they'll try to pull with the alleged balloting available at Hollywood Video stores. They'd better not pull a Katherine Harris.:-( www.etonline.com Go to lower right and click on H'Wood Movie Awards

Rachael, Nostromo is worth the price of the video as long as you don't pay more than a buck three eighty for it and you only watch the house tour and mine scenes (OK, throw in the wet shirt scene too). That leaves...oh, about five hours and fifty minutes worth of tape that'll make you want to go for a swim with bars of silver in your pockets. ;-) (Karen) the part about how plans for him to reprise Curly on B'way have been cancelled Ooh, have been away from NYC for too long. My first thought was 'there's a play about the Three Stooges?' :-P

Have just voted. Here are the standings: Johnny Depp 13% Colin Firth 35% Anthony Hopkins 17% Ben Kingsley 2% Ewan McGregor 27% Guy Pearce 5%

Now that we have all voted...we need to ask family and friends to vote...and alternate places. I voted at the library this AM. That's not a commancing lead. BTW anybody have any luck voting at Hollywood Videos? I went to two and they never heard of the Best Actor contest. You think he'll attend a function in LA on August 4th?

(Evelyn) You think he'll attend a function in LA on August 4th? Related question, when are the Emmy ballots due in? Surely, he *must* understand by now that a certain amount of (cough cough) campaigning in the form of 'being seen' and 'networking' is required to actually win an award...and it's not like he's going to do the talk shows again without a movie to promote.

(Evelyn) You think he'll attend a function in LA on August 4th? Heck no. Should CF win, I see two possible scenarios: a) They'll show a videotaped acceptance speech featuring Colin, poolside. He'll start by saying something like 'I drove all morning just to tape this here.' b) The presenter will say 'Colin Firth could not be here tonight due to a change in his film schedule.' Sorry, Col, you're still in the doghouse.

Have just looked it up: week of July 30: tapes mailed out August 17: deadline for at-home judging (is there "not" at-home judging??)

The August 6th date is for the Hollywood Awards...not Emmy. Emmy's are Sept 16th (Eileen)They'll show a videotaped acceptancespeech featuring Colin, poolside. He'll start by saying something like 'I drove all morning just to tape this here.' Then, he'll launch (no pun intended) into: "My worst fears were fulfilled..." Hey, it worked once. That story has legs by now.

LOL boss, you crack me up!

In case anyone is interested in increasing Colin's chances at the Hollywood Film Awards: If one were inclined to do such a thing as to 'stuff the virtual ballotbox' for the ETOnline contest, this would be how one would go about doing it: Click on "Start > Find > Files or Folders" on your windows desktop type in "cookies.txt" and click "Find Now" When the "cookies.txt" file is found, right-click the name and drag it and drop it on your desktop. This will bring up a dialogue box - select "Create Shortcut(s) Here" Double-click the new shortcut to open the cookies file in Notepad. Click "File > Save As" and save this file as something different (like "save_cookies.txt"), if you want to save your cookies Once you have saved the file as something else, close it. Once again, double-click on the shortcut to cookies.txt. Highlight everything EXCEPT the first three lines in the file (which start with "#") and delete it. Now save the file (with only the first 3 lines). Close it. Open your Netscape browser to http://www.etonline.com/html/page_meter/hff2001/index.htm (to save time and clicks, I have this set as my home page). Vote for your favorite choices. Close your browser. Repeat steps 7 through 11 until your arm feels like it's going to fall off. Please remember, this is a theoretical list of steps. I would never do this myself, nor would I encourage anyone else to do so... Once the voting ends, of course, one would then rename the saved cookies file back to "cookies.txt" and their cookies would return...

Sarah, why so complicated? I have a PC, and all I have to do to get rid of cookies is to delete them from temprorary internet files via Windows Explorer. I routinely get rid of cookies that are not related to frequently visited websites. It's all quite innocent, really. What's the last day for voting? I have a meeting in NYC next week and a few of the people there will let me vote on their computers. (Evelyn)I voted at the library this AM. Clever girl!!!!

Hi Kate, Well, if you don't care about the old cookies, you can skip most of the steps, but some folks on here said they didn't want to lose their cookies (so to speak). ;-) I've found that deleting the cookies and not the file itself seems to work better on my computer for some unknown reason. Having to create a cookie file over and over seems to cause memory problems for my computer. But whatever works for you, go for it. :-) Last day of the contest is July 25.

Lucky Australians! Not only is BJD finally opening, but Donovan Quick is being shown again on your ABC on Tuesday night, the 24th, at 11:00p http://www.abc.net.au/tvpub/schedule/sheds/p20010724.htm

I think Sarah's method allows you to do continuous voting, without having to manually delete the etonline cookie each time. Or am I wrong about that?

Actually, you would be manually deleting the etonline cookie (for Netscape only) by following those steps.

I have to delete the etonline cookie each time. But what I do as part of regular file clearing is scroll through the list of cookies and take out the ones I don't want, one by one (leaving any Spring cookies intact, of course!)

Colin and BJD are losing ground to Ewan and Mouline Rouge, although RZ seems to be holding her own against Nicole (for now). I wonder how the voting at the video stores is going for our candidates. ET usually publicizes these things on their show at some point, so this will probably happen the final week of the vote. We'll be better able to see how the general public votes at that point.

(Louise) I wonder how the voting at the video stores is going How?? Have you actually found a video store that had ballots or knew about this? I see...in my crystal ball...an armored truck pulling up in front of the Hollywood Film Festival offices after collecting the ballots from Palm Beach County. What? They hanging chads indicate votes for Pat Buchanan?! Argh!

Colin's snuck up 1 point to 36% - child has agreed to go on all computers in the library at school on tuesday and I'm going to see what I can do from work ....

It seems we're besieged on more than one front. Here's another revolting development: over at this BJD site, the vote for "who is cuter--Mark Darcy or Daniel Cleaver?" is currently 62% in DC's favor. Yuuuck! Are these people mad? Or, more likely, the vote is being rigged. If your clicking finger isn't too tired, go here and vote for ODB. http://ninemsn.com.au/bridgetjones/info.asp?blipid=5481

P.S. There are some v.g. clips at this site--interviews with cast, director and HF about the film. Maybe some of you have seen them, but I had not, so I was v. interested in what they had to say.

I believe the clips were the ones shown in the UK "Making of" program, aren't they? Don't you think voting for the Hollywood FF Awards a little more important? I do.

Cads seem "cuter" to bimbos.

I guess I must not be a bimbo, then, as I have never liked the TV and film stars who were "bad boys" in real life. Don't you think voting for the Hollywood FF Awards a little more important? I do. Oh yes, they are definitely more important, but I try to vote against injustice wherever I find it.

got New Cardiff today, only read ch 1 but I can see it as a film.. Have you read any more, Rachael? I can *always* enthuse (hey, I'm very keen on both MOB and TIOBE!), but if I had to put my money where my mouth is, this is the one that would get my life savings. Even as I was reading it I could *see* the scenes being played out on film. Hope it comes through -it will be a winner-and that CF plays Colin! The blurb on the book cover actually states that film rights have been purchased by Fragile Films who own Ealing Studios.

Bethan, I finished the book now. Saw the fragile films note; thought the book was a little odd although can see how it could be a film. good twist in the middle (won't say any more at risk of planting a spoiler); interesting that there's almost no description (we don't actually know what Colin, Mandy et al look like, really) but its nearly all dialogue so presumably wouldn't be hard to turn into a screenplay; I can see why it might appeal to ODB as its got that certain quirkiness that seems to characterise a number of things he's done, and you'd assume that as its written by the guy who wrote "The Graduate" that it would be a seller ... so. one funny thought - if the main character is called Colin, being played by someone really called Colin, would it be hard to remember which Colin to be and when to stop pretending? ;)

Which ever Colin he plays will be just fine and dandy with me.

Hello Everyone, I have been "lurking" for ages and, having greatly enjoyed all your comments - it has often been a major source of enjoyment for me after a hard day's work. I therefore felt I should finally make a contribution, especially since this rather amusing article appeared yesterday in the Sydney Sun Herald ("Bridget Jones" has just opened here and is getting a lot of publicity). I apologise in advance if any of your other Australian contributors have already sent this article. As I sadly don't have a scanner, I can't send the delightful drawing which accompanied it (it showed CF as Mr Darcy, lying back and drinking a martini and was labelled "007th Heaven". But I have re-typed the article below, if any of your readers would enjoy it. #Double oh, Colin There's a bond between Mr Darcy and a tuxedo dream. LADIES, brace yourselves: it is my happy duty to report that Mr Darcy is set to be the next James Bond. Whoof! Colin Firth, he of the skin-clinging, soaking-wet white shirt in the ABC's "Pride and Prejudice", is said to be "desperate" to give the 007 tuxedo a bit of a turn. The mind boggles. If costume drama-Darcy to secret agent seems a bit of a leap, then consider Firth's current Darcy outing as Mark Darcy, the highly eligible human rights lawyer in the movie "Bridget Jones's Diary". Strong willed, out to get the baddies and most definitely a ladies' man, he has a surprising amount in common with Bond. Take away the reindeer jumper (go see the move, you'll know what I mean), Santa ties (another movie in-joke, sorry) and legal get-up, add a concealed weapon and a martini - and voila! Most definitely licensed to thrill. "I'd go for it, absolutely!" Firth has said of the chance to replace Pierce Brosnan on the Bond perch. "I'd love the idea." It's hard to think of a more dashing 007 candidate. When it comes to being a bona fide screen god, Firth's credentials are impeccable: * Smouldering eyes and a tendency to come over a bit dark - tick. * Ability to look mouth-watering in clothes of any style or era - tick (he even gets away with sideburns, for heaven's sake). * Screen smooch rating - extremely high (sorry, it's that film again!) Who better to step into the shoes of one of the screen's most suave operators? Judging by how women are howling out loud at his "Bridget Jones" appearance (not me, of course), there can be no doubt that Firth's Bond would be a winner. He's not without competition, however. Russell Crowe is said to be taking aim at the 007 part, too. A source in the Firth camp said: "He's realistic about his chances and admits that Russell Crowe is probably the favourite." I beg to differ. Crowe certainly wore his "Gladiator" togs well and no-one does the brutish, bad-boy act better. But Bond? Nah. One glimpse of Firth in his "Bridget Jones" sharp suits and crisp tailoring and it's clear that he was born to be on Her Majesty's Service. Ooh. I fell shaken AND stirred already.# I had a smile on my face as I read this - hope you all liked it too. Nellie

Welcome Nellie, great to have you with us at last! Thanks for posting the article. We are always getting "shaken and stirred" by ODB here, so I'll raise a dry martini to your next post ;-) I always enjoy these articles where the jounalist is under the spell too! Thanks for sharing.

Or even journalist! OOh am I shaken up, it's the images conjured up in your article!

Welcome Nellie!! Great to see you delurk and happy that Bridget has finally made it to your shore. Join us on 126 when you'd like to share your Bridget experience. ...now back to this Mr Bond thing! Ooof, those *journalists* make me nuts. Have they no shame? It was a cute little article though. But, come on, who really believes he that? There's a bond between Mr Darcy and a tuxedo dream. Tuxedo dream? Must be the same as a pipe dream. ;-) Judging by how women are howling out loud at his "Bridget Jones" appearance This, I'd love to have seen/heard. ;-) Plus that drawing... surely someone has a scanner downunder. *foot tapping*

(Karen) Ooof, those *journalists* make me nuts. *Heehee* Am sure Aussie readers will recognize that the author's tongue is set firmly in her cheek and not mistake this little fluff piece (thoroughly researched at the PeopleNews site ;-)) for bonafide news. Plus that drawing... surely someone has a scanner downunder. Yes, yes! Cathey? Anyone? Welcome, Nellie! Keep posting!

Hi Nellie...good to have you on board.Cute article. *I * can see Colin as Bond, but I thought it was already decided. Some obscure Irish (?) actor?? (Rachael)..thought the book was a little odd Wait til you hear about the author;-))

(Evelyn) but I thought it was already decided. Some obscure Irish (?) actor?? Yes, Pierce Brosnan, although I'd hardly call him obscure. ;-)

Ever since they ran out of "real" Bond stories--those written by Fleming, the Bond movies have been getting ridiculous. There used to be a delightful toungue-in-cheek nature to them. And I think Colin's "interest" is a remark he made in a similar vein. Now Bond has become a caricature. I'm not sure he'd really do Bond. After all, Colin fights like a girl. ;-))

And that was only when he was trying to do "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon." OOPs sorry Karen! Don't want to incur your wrath even more than Aussie journalists. Anyway by his own admission he's got his ownn Bond girl at home, why bother going on screen to find one.

(Lizza) OOPs sorry Karen! Don't want to incur your wrath ???????????????????????????????????????????????

Welcome Nellie!! I'm a newbie myself and even though I don't post that much, I love to read what everyone else posts.

Karen, CTHD, is I know one of your all time fave films! See, I remembered this time ;-D

Catherine Zeta -Jones was a guest on Larry King Sat. night. She talked about how difficult it was for her to be taken as a serious actress in UK after television.[ I know, I know...some of you don't like her...] Oddly enough, she didn't even mention 'Out of the Blue" with Colin;-) And I think Colin's "interest" is a remark he made in a similar vein. Now Bond has become a caricature. I'm not sure he'd really do Bond. C'mon...Bond is *every* guy's fantasy...doctor, lawyer or Indian Chief.

Colin as JB, Good Lord !!! What tosh !!! Although, I do so love the idea of his deadpan expression of complete distain, when one of the Bond hotties, siddles up tp him and tell him her ridiculously improbable name, in a breathy, bedroom whisper. I always loved it when Pussy Galore or Plenty O'Toole would introduce themselves to Sean Connery. He would barely raise an eyebrow, but would growl sexily "Of course it is..... " or " Naturally..... " Gets me every time...sigh.....over to you Col

I thought the James Bond thing was ruled out for Colin ages ago ... article in the guardian, I think, comparing the merits of various actors - I'll try and find it. re our earlier discussion of Conspiracy, here's a copy of an email received today from BBC info (not had an answer from Alan Yentob yet) "Thank you for your further e-mail regarding 'Conspiracy'. I am sorry that you feel my previous answer was somewhat vague, however, we cannot confirm future schedules and I would not want to give you a misleading answer. It may well be that at some point we will be showing this production however, as I have stated I am unable to confirm this. Please be assured that your interest in seeing this broadcast has been made available to BBC management. Thank you once again for contacting us. Regards Richard Carey BBC Information" so now you know who to write to ....

(Richard Idon'tCare-y) Please be assured that your interest in seeing this broadcast has been made available to BBC management. LOL! 'Has been made available...'? BBC management? Har har! (Rachael) so now you know who to write to .... You mean who *not* to write to.

(Rachael) I'll try and find it. Really, no need to do so. Perhaps I should open a topic for JB to post all the manufactured news. Pierce Brosnan is doing the next Bond. He's under contract. Beyond that (2-3 years' time), it's anyone's guess...unless he starts looking like the grandfather that he is... ;-) (BBC) we cannot confirm future schedules Face it, this is policy as they've often said. They *will* not confirm future schedules. All you can do is make your wish known to BBC management.

I was over at JN�s egroup and I saw this site entitled �The Boyfriend of the Week.� http://www.megwood.com/ Of course, I had to check out the past boyfriends, and happily found that she had made CF �Boyfriend of the Week� twice. The article is long. Apologies if it has already been printed. http://www.megwood.com/boyfriend.html April 23, 2001 Well, hell, people. This is a first, ain't it? I had a really swell NEW Boyfriend all ready to go for this week -- I'd even made you guys sit and stew for seven days to build up the suspense, right? And the plan was to wrap up this short series with one last oldie but goodie. I even had a special little twist to give you -- one that I'm SURE you would've fully enjoyed. Yet instead, you're all here, totally boggled by the fact that up on the screen right now is a face that looks pretty dang familiar, if you do say so yourselves. In fact, familiar, nothing, that's no new Boyfriend up there! Meg's recycled an archive! What kind of scam is this girl trying to pull, anyway? Now, granted, it's been a few years since I first featured Colin Firth. But still, it just makes no sense, I know. I've NEVER gone back for seconds before. I NEVER have that second cup of coffee at home. And yet, boggled or not, here we all are again! Taking a step back into the past to take a second look at an old favorite. What the heck is going on? And, perhaps even more importantly, you're thinking, how do I get my money back? Oh stop it, all of you. You never paid anyway, you cheapskates. You're worse than those people who stole Stephen King's e-book chapters without sending him the buck. I was too couth to ask for money, yet I can see King was right -- psshhh. You guys don't do anything unless you have to. Well, fine. And anyway, I can tell you what's happened and, what's more, I can do it using only three words: "Bridget Jones's Diary." If that isn't enough to tell you all you need to know about my motivations this week, than you must not have hit the theaters yet. Yep, I just saw the movie (which is based on a book I totally loved) and when I left the theater, Mr. Darcy had done it again. I was (and am still) swooning like crazy, y'all. I just cannot, CANNOT, resist this man. So, here we are again. And, the good news is that this makes for a very simple write-up for me. Because, the old write-up says everything about the "Pride and Prejudice" Mr. Darcy that I loved so much (P&P was also rerunning on A&E last week -- so I've definitely had Darcy on the brain). And, as you may know, in "Bridget," Colin plays a different character who is also named, not so coincidentally, "Mr. Darcy." What you may not yet realize, however, is that they are really the SAME character, right down to the sexual tension they both create with their scowls, insults, and poor attitudes and their totally delicious and stomach-flipping kisses that seem to take over six torturous hours to arrive. So, if you loved him in P&P, you'll love him in Bridge. I quite happily report that nothing has changed. Excuse me for a moment -- I've got to go scream "ARRRRRRRGH!" at the top of my lungs. Whew. Okay. So, here's the old write-up, but before you get to it, let me just tell you that I'm raising Colin Firth's MacGyver Factor Score, also a first, which you'll see when you get to the bottom of the original column. Long live Mr. Darcy! Whether he's in classic old-time British gent clothes or that lovely green reindeer sweater, he's still the man you can't help but just. totally. lust after. I mean, right this very moment, about 30 minutes after I left the theater from my Bridget screening, my stomach is still going "ugh ugh ugh!!" in absolute painful, ugh-y desire over Colin Firth. Almost like there is a string connected from my stomach to Colin and he's tugging on it. Well, babe, PULL HARDER! And if all else fails, I'll expect you at my place soon for my own special encore presentation of the final five minutes of "Pride and Prejudice," which I now have on tape and thus can rewind over and over as many times as I damn well please. Thank you GOD for modern technology! (And you can trust that as soo as it's available on video, I'll have a copy of Bridget Jones's Diary all set for the same action.) *************OLD WRITE-UP BELOW!**************** I was laying around in bed the other night, daydreaming and listening to "X Minus One" on the Golden Radio Classics show when I happened to tilt my head to the side (just as some guy was being kidnapped by aliens who were going to destroy the earth because the U.S. had dropped an atomic bomb -- I love the 50's) when SUDDENLY, I realized I hadn't made Colin Firth a Boyfriend of the Week yet! Mary, Mother of God! See, I have about four pictures of Colin taped to the side of my bookcase. Why? BECAUSE I LOVE HIM. Duh. Have you guys seen the BBC production of Pride and Prejudice? Oh my god, you would love it. It's so amazingly wonderful, even I cannot believe it. Colin plays Mr. Darcy, of course, and he's the perfect blend of arrogance and shyness and drop-dead-gorgeousness. Plus, there's NO KISSING until the very end. What this does: makes you nuts (in a good way) with frustration. I still can't watch it without getting kinda queasy and wanting to yell, "Oh, PLEASE, would you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE just KISS her?!" I love that. Now, I've seen Colin Firth in a few other things now, too. But I have to admit, they weren't all that great. I've been on the waiting list for one copy of Valmont at the local library for about three months, and I've heard it's kind of like Dangerous Liasons (if not the exact same thing, I forget now). I'm not sure if I'll like him in that, either, though. The problem with all other Colin Firth movies? He isn't in them enough. Seriously. Would you just take a look at "The English Patient" and "Shakespeare in Love" for a moment? A few scenes, all too short and none of them involving ANY sexual tension WHATsoever. I mean, what is the point, I ask you? Why cast Colin Firth is you're just going to waste that face like that. I need frustration! I need tension! I need. . .kissing! What I do not, DO NOT, need, however, is Colin Firth cast as a boring husband who just crashes in his plane and calls it a day. No thank you! To be honest, and I'm sure there's no faster way to make Colin hate me than by saying this, but I really think Colin Firth should just travel around America (well, okay, how about just Western Washington) and do lots of Mr. Darcy impersonations. Show up, say, in my neighborhood and scowl a lot (sometimes adding just a hint of a smile, though), say lots of grumpy things in that deep voice of his (with that accent, of course), and then, say, kiss somebody. Perhaps somebody with short blonde hair who is about 5' 9" tall with a keen mind and well-developed sense of humor. And if she's not around, he can just kiss me. I'd pay to see him every time without fail, so he could definitely make some money that way. Plus, I'm not the only girl totally in love with him -- just ask my Mom. The problem with Colin Firth is that in real life, I've picked up hints that he might be kind of a jerk. Like, he's a little pissy about how much fame Mr. Darcy has given him even though he's been in movies for a dang long time now and nobody's ever noticed before. Tough luck, kiddo. But that doesn't mean you have to run off and get MARRIED, ya big jerk. Yes, it's true, about two months after I fell in love with him, he got married (and not to me). God, that's just plain RUDE, Colin. And you didn't even date that girl long enough. And you never even gave me a chance! You're losing MacGyver points for that one, bub. Still, try as I might, I cannot help but forgive him (read: drool over him) everytime I see that scene in P&P where he walks into Elizabeth's room and tells her that even though he knows he ought to think she's really gross (I'm paraphrasing), he's in love with her anyway. God, you just want to smack him and kiss him all at the same time. I love that in a man! That kiss at the end, after they've finally realized they're hopelessly in love with each other and get married, well, heck, I cry everytime. ***********END OF OLD WRITE-UP************ I'm not going to bother giving you any biographical information on Colin Firth. For one thing, there's not a lot to give. And for another, I think it's far, far more important that I wrap this thing up and get back to daydreaming about kissing Mark Darcy in the snow in England while I'm wearing leopard-print bikini underpants and sneakers with no socks. He wraps his coat around my bum to keep it warm and I nibble happily on those incredible lips and wonder why in the HELL I didn't think of doing this sooner. Life, I love you. (Always grooooovey! -- name that song!) MacGyver Factor Score: 99.99999999999999%. I have a feeling I will one day regret this score I've just given out. Because, and you'll never believe it, but it's true, Colin Firth's MFS has just surpassed Constable Fraser's. To be fair, I am going to pop in a tape of "Due South" RIGHT NOW and make sure I'm not out of my mind. But, honestly, people, Colin Firth is quite possibly the most incredibly sexy human being on the planet today. There's a fog on my brain, I know. But I wouldn't mind too much if it just stayed there for a little while longer. Sigh. BIG sigh. Ooo, I just can't BELIEVE he's married!! It's just so completely wrong! v.v.b.!

Caught a snippet on Tv with Sandy Gall, ex ITV newsreader and reporter. (OK OK I am getting to the point!) He has written a book about the African Bushmen being displaced from their homeland and mentioned the work of Survival International several times in connection with this, a project we know ODB is passionate about and has had direct experience of. Apparently HRH has done the foreward and is also concerned about their plight. SG said that Survival hold a candlelit vigil at the Botswanan Embassy every week to highlight the situation. Whether anyone in a fur trimmed parka or even a suspect mac has been seen there......

I thought the James Bond thing was ruled out for Colin ages ago ... article in the guardian, I think, comparing the merits of various actors - I'll try and find it. (Rachael) Wasn't that the article which said that CF would have been Ian Fleming's ideal choice? If you returned to the spirit of original books, circa early 1960s, CF would be in contention, but not now, in the post Mission Impossible 2 era. Would you just take a look at "The English Patient" and "Shakespeare in Love" for a moment? A few scenes, all too short and none of them involving ANY sexual tension WHATsoever. I mean, what is the point, I ask you? Why cast Colin Firth is you're just going to waste that face like that. I need frustration! I need tension! I need. . .kissing! LOL!! (Am in agreement with this!) Perhaps the men in suits might have noticed that whereas the Fiennes bros multi-Oscared TEP and SIL took �11 million and �20 million respectively at the UK Box Office, BJD is still going strong, at over �40million.

(Bethan) Wasn't that the article which said that CF would have been Ian Fleming's ideal choice? If you returned to the spirit of original books, circa early 1960s, CF would be in contention Respectfully, I beg to differ.

"oooohhh, it's a fight, a real fight." Only joking Ladies ;') Rather the Welsh Bard for you Karen. Sorry but I loved Wessex. Am in minority, but I did go to the exibition and touch that doublet and hose not to mention other items of apparel. Still luckily they don't worry about CCTV cameras too much in that part of Wales. Just think how commonplace the "sexual tension" would become without a few superbly played comic roles now and again! Actually we don't have to, we've lived without our share of "ST" over the years at this board.

(Tom) "oooohhh, it's a fight, a real fight." That's right. "Outside, Bethan. Bring your sword and pistol." (This really *is* something I should've done long ago) LOL!! Lizza ;-)

what?? where in Wales did you touch that kit, Lizza?? I'm going to Wales, I like Wessex too!! *LOL*

There was a special costume show from SIL at Chepstow castle, with about half a dozen or so costumes, the only one of ODB's was the green one he wears at court (I am sure you know the one). The bad news Rachael is that was in Autumn 1999. If I remember correctly it was a touring thing so it went on to other venues. Curiously the lady at the desk had met Colin at a wedding some years previously, her best friend's son and Colin were at school (I think that was it!) and she said what a nice man he was and what a lovely family he had etc

rats! well, that's me, Lizza, mrs slow-off-the-mark. I might just have to go and watch SIL again to make up for the disappointment! "It was your eyes, no, your lips" who cares, just give us a snog ROFL

(Tom) "oooohhh, it's a fight, a real fight." (K)That's right. "Outside, Bethan. Bring your sword and pistol." HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU Too funny. And I'll take all comers.. I like Bond..."just as he is"... And... I like the Fiennes bros too

(Lizza)Sorry but I loved Wessex. Don't apologize! I loved Wessex, too. When he strides into the theater and calls out "Shakespeare!" and draws his sword, Mmmmm, that commanding voice.

and where they're doing that swinging round dance thing, where the man picks the girl up and swirls her right round .... ooh can you imagine ... little Fiennes doesn't look strong enough to pick anyone up but Wessex could certainly sweep you off your feet ....

plus Gwynnie even smiles/laughs when he lifts her (IMO she's enjoying herself immensely), but nothing when JF does. ;-)

A REMINDER We're into the home stretch now (awards voting ends tomorrow) so as Paul Ashworth would say, "Come on you useless shower. Get stuck in." ;-) Become a master over your cookies: http://www.etonline.com/html/page_meter/hff2001/index.htm

work computers won't let me do it!! am currently trying to persuade my colleagues to go home and vote tonight - on the basis that its their patriotic duty ;-)

WHERE IS MARCIA????? anyone see the Wahinie?

Hello everyone, I've been popping in here for the whole last week before finally decided to put sth in writing. I'm a great fan of CF and it began so long ago that as FD: "I cannot fix on the hour, or the spot, or the look, or the words, which laid the foundation. It is too long ago. I was in the middle before I knew that I had begun." So, I don't remember which CF's film as the first caused my heart beat more rapidly. The only thing I know that it was before Valmont cos I remember being very excited about Formans' choice. Then, seven years were gone before I was able to see it on some TV channel (only Frear's version released in our cinemas). CF isn't very popular here, no articles, no interviews, in reviews of BJD was either not mentioned, or his name only mentioned or his part described in two words. When I was telling my friends in May that I couldn't wait to BJD's release in June because my favourite actor starred in it, everybody thought of HG. Next time I was more precise to put it that I didn't mean HG, but somebody who is definitely handsomer and more talented. Yet, in comparison with the past there have been quite a lot of opportunities to see CF'work recently, as MLSF was released in cinemas (misleading translation of the title - the First Enchantment), second run of P&P2 (morning hours on Mondays), and TTOTS was shown on C+. By the way, BJD is doing very well at the cinemas, 7 weeks 3rd place in box office and is on 14 cinemas in my city. (Nellie) Your article was great. But I don't think that anybody thinks seriously of CF as Bond, but they could offer him a part of some baddie similar to Jonathan Pryce in Tomorrow Never Dies. Entertainment weekly presented their choice of the next Bond. http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,168192~10~0~ewpicksnextjames,00.html (Rachael) I know that Karen discouraged you from the purchase of TTOTS and it is true that CF's screen time in this film is rather short, but to my mind, he's simply great in this film and his scenes with Jodhie May are ones of my favourites of all. I rewinded them on my VCR many times. Seduction and passion in his voice and nobody wears period costumes better than HIM. Just the same, as nobody wears worse than HG in Sense and Sensibility (he looked and walked like a complete disaster). Moreover, TTOTS is a good film as a whole (I like gothic stories). I also like the previous film version of Henry James'book with Deborah Kerr as a governess and James Mason as a master.

ODB made "Men We Love" list in July/August issue of More magazine. "More salutes the grooviest men on the planet. How did they make it onto our list? As Brian Wilson sings: It's our imagination running wild." CF's category was "men we'd like to spend a long, rainy afternoon with. . ." This category also included Tom Cruise, Mel Gibson, Robert Redford, Denzel Washington, Harrison Ford, Andy Garcia, Liam Neeson, and Kevin Spacey.

Hot news on the BJD front. Looks like we have a date for the UK video release. It's Dec 3rd. I expect the delay has to do with the very slow rollout across Europe and other PAL countries. Wouldn't do to have the PAL video on the market when it is still in theatres. It can be preordered for �13.59 (�16.99 list) from: http://www.choicesdirect.co.uk/cgi-bin/ChoicesDirect.storefront/1338807406/Product/View/69296

I have tracked down a copy of the Sydney Sun Herald referred to by Nellie and will get the photo scanned ASAP.

Ooops, forgot to issue a big Welcome to Aniutek! Glad to see that you've posted. Several times you've mentioned "where you live," "here" and similar. What country are you in? the Netherlands? (Cathey) I have tracked down a copy of the Sydney Sun Herald...and will get the photo scanned ASAP. You're a doll! Will put this cartoon in my Rogues Gallery, next to the the Daily Mail's rendition of the Prince of Denmark. ;-)

Aniutek sounds Slavonic... Welcome, wherever you're from.

Gaaahhh! I fear that the You-in fanatics over at Etonline.com will overcome us in the end! I just finished voting for about an hour, but they are up to 32% versus only 34% for Colin and it didn't look like I even made a dent. It looks like we current Colin voters are too few and too late. What a shame.

I guess I'm the only one around tonight. I just finished another voting session. I'm off to soak my hand due to severe trigger finger tendinitis. Those of you who have spare time tomorrow might want to give it another try. Unfortunately, I can't vote from my work computer, so I fear this will have to be my last effort (unless the voting lasts until tomorrow night at midnight). At least I tried. Sniffle.

You're not alone, Louise. I've been watching it go down the tubes all evening. Wwhat a shame, is right. We are being outnumbered and outmaneuvered. All of a sudden there's this huge surge for Moulin Rouge/McGregor/Kidman. Where were these people before? It's not like it's a new movie (or even a particularly successful one--BJD did a lot better). I presume the voting ends at midnight Wednesday. And I have yet to talk to anyone who has found a ballot at a Hollywood Video store. What a crock.

No, you're not alone, Louise. I have mastered eating and brushing one's teeth with one hand. ;-) I'll be glad when this is over (and Johnny Depp/Nicole Kidman win) just so that this strange person named CLAIRE010242@aol.com will stop emailing me with Colin voting alerts and exhortations to tell my *buddies* to vote. (Mari) Where were these people before? Writing a program to vote while they slept. ;-)

BTW, the official Moulin Rouge site has a popup window that takes you to the etonline ballot page. They're participating in it, and it wouldn't surprise me if they're generating the votes themselves. http://www.clubmoulinrouge.com/mr1.htm Does Miramax or the MSN sites have anything comparable? Don't waste your breath. These people are cyberincompetents. :-(

Can we say RIGGED boys and girls?? I thought we could. I sure hope they look at the statistics on this poll before making the final selection. Seems just a TAD suspicious to me that Colin/Renee/BJD have been LEADING this poll for a full MONTH by a margin of at least 9% and in a matter of a few HOURS on the LAST DAY of the poll, Ewan/Nicole/MR pull ahead... this is obviously not kosher. I do hope the folks who are running this poll take a close look at this...

(Karen)What country are you in? the Netherlands? A little more on the right. Thank you for your quick reply to my e-mail and your very useful tips. (Echo)Aniutek sounds Slavonic... Welcome, wherever you're from. Wow! Echo you're great. I'm really a Slav, to be exact a Pole from Warsaw. (Louise)I just finished voting for about an hour, but they are up to 32% versus only 34% for Colin and it didn't look like I even made a dent. I know it was very depressing. I spent last evening voting and deleting cookies, and only once I saw some sort of effect - when BJD dropped to 35% and after my continuous voting rose to 36%. When I finished voting after midnight the results were RZ-38, CF-36, BJD-36. So, the MR maniac must've been very active this night. I wish I could vote at work, but I haven't got the access to polling pages. Though I'm aware of being desperate I'll keep trying after work. Maybe there's a slight chance, Colin win.

(Mari)Where were these people before?

(Mari)Where were these people before? GAH! Am so upset that I screwed up and hit submit before I was done! I have been afraid of this. OK, so it sounds paranoid, but I think there was a voting block (or program) that sat back until the last minute when any competition wouldn't be able to catch up. V.V. SNEAKY. Too bad you can't post comments when you vote. BJD was way more successful than MR. Hey, MR, show us the money!

Wow! Echo you're great. Thanks, Aniutek - it takes one to know one... ;-) I'm really a Slav, to be exact a Pole... So am I. :-)

Another Slav here, originaly from Czechoslovakia (now Slovakia)

Am as disgusted as you all because when I went to bed last night, EMcG had just tied Colin. Now I see the results are far worse. Have had this confirmation, although the producer keeps saying "Cinemax" (while owned by the same company as HBO is a *different* channel). Plus Londinium is going to be on late at night!! "Londinium" is confirmed for a Cinemax World Premiere on Sunday, September 2, 2001 at 10pm pst. Cinemax (HBO) will air "The Sex Monster" by Mike Binder directly before this at 8pm. He also says that it will be shown in France, Germany and the Benelux countries. But no details.

*tsk* So the Hollywood Movie Awards are no better than the 'My Favorite Man' voting booth. Can we really put that much faith in something so easily rigged (face it, we were rigging it ourselves)? I started having my doubts when all our votes failed to change CF's percentage--and I doubt votes for the other nominees were coming in at exactly the same rate. :-/ Londinium will be aired on Cinemax? Phooey. That's one of the few I elected not to purchase. :-(

Londinium will be aired on Cinemax? Phooey. Double phooey. Not as prestigious as HBO . 10 PM..not exactly prime time.And following The SM, people will think it's in the same category.S***.They'll miss out on all tht beautiful scenery of the Southbank ;-) I am so surprised that anyone would think this *wasn't* rigged.It's a given. C'mon kids. We've been doing this for over four years. Though I thought it would be rigged his way, because he's so hot. He also says that it will be shown in France, Germany and the Benelux countries. But no details. No UK? Isn't that a lottery money film?

(Evelyn) No UK? Isn't that a lottery money film? Goodness! No. Whatever gave you that impression?

Evelyn) No UK? Isn't that a lottery money film? (Karen)Goodness! No. Whatever gave you that impression? I dunno. They've given money to worse....

G'ah! I don't believe this voting fiasco! What the hell happened? I've called MDH in and his friends at work, but I don't think it will make much of a difference! What about the Hollywood Video votes? Will it help our cause?

forget the monkey, go straight for the organ grinder - email received earlier today - first paragraph refers to DQ, 2nd to Conspiracy: "Many thanks for your email. It is just not feasible to release every film on video I'm afraid - in due course however it may well be repeated. If you are desperately keen to see it again we will loan you a copy if you are prepared to collect and return. In answer to your second inquiry, Conspiracy is a co-production with BBC2 and will of course be transmitted on the BBC. So will Band of Brothers and Wit. Last of the Blonde Bombshells has already been shown on BBC1. Alan Yentob" Anyone want to pop over to Broadcasting House?

Actually I'm surprised that they would offer to loan you a video of it. I don't a network here in the US would be that generous. Take them up on it. Who knows what else they could come up with!

(AY) we will loan you a copy if you are prepared to collect and return. Ask if he can drop it off on the way home from work. ;-) Bravo, Rachael! *clap clap clap* I have a whole list of BBC videos I'd like to borrow (and get clean conversions off).

Alan Yentob I'm impressed, Rachael! Thanks! It is just not feasible to release every film on video I'm afraid Well, it might have sold a few more copies than a BBC thriller starring Ken Stott, and a Billy Connolly drama shown last Christmas....both appear in the latest ChoicesDirect video catalogue!! What puzzles me is how, on the one hand the media promotes CF as a national heart-throb, but on the other hand you can't buy videos of any of his recent films, or even see them! And is "Londinium" so desperately, excruciatingly awful, and so badly acted by a talented cast that we can't even see it in the UK! (must be all those shots of the British Museum, South Bank complex, London parks in the sunshine etc!) "Conspiracy" is good news though!

(Evelyn) And following The SM, people will think it's in the same category.S***. They'll miss out on all tht beautiful scenery of the Southbank Yeah. And the weather was so sunny and everything. ;-) I am so surprised that anyone would think this *wasn't* rigged.It's a given. C'mon kids. We've been doing this for over four years. You know how I feel about these things. However, I did think these awards were a step above the ole' Voting Booth as they were on the ET site and Anthony Andrews wasn't in the running. ;-) (Rebecca) What about the Hollywood Video votes? Will it help our cause? Nobody here (who's posted, anyway) has been able to find a H'wood Video store whose employees have heard of these awards. Hmmmm...

Too many conflicting interests, evidently. To us, Colin may be the one and only. To them, he's just one of many...

(I was commenting on Bethan's remarks.)

(Rachel)Anyone want to pop over to Broadcasting House? Same tube stop as Riverside Studios...you could give them my condolences. Congratulations Rachael...you gotta a friend . Ok...now you're the official contact for BBC. (Toyce) I don't think a network here in the US would be that generous. Depends ... you gotta get the right "organ grinder";-)) (Evelyn) And following The SM, people will think it's in the same category.S***. They'll miss out on all tht beautiful scenery of the Southbank (Eileen)Yeah. And the weather was so sunny and everything. ;-) Best summer we had in England;-)

Am devestated by Colin's loss in the poll. Who was in charge of counting the vote, the Florida legislature ? I feel personally responsible, coz I didn't vote, not even once....gulp, I know, I know I feel awful. I am the resident computer retard here at Drool and, all that talk of cookies and cleaning files out put me off voting. Sorry Colin......slinks off into corner......

(Bethanne)I am the resident computer retard here at Drool and, all that talk of cookies and cleaning files out put me off voting Aw..don't feel badly. I didn't do the cookie- cleaning either, but all my family and friends voted and I hit every free computer in town.

(Beth) Who was in charge of counting the vote, the Florida legislature? Have figured it out. H'wood Movie Award pollsters had tickets to Hamlet. Anyway, who are all these Ewan voters? Star Wars fans? Jar-Jar Binks?

Jabba the Hut pronably, that dirty slug will stop at nothing....

Hi, this is my first time in here. I was just so disappointed (like all of you)that CF/RZ/BJD are on the verge of losing the Hollywood Film Festival awards. I even sent an email this morning to HFF: Dear Hollywood Awards, I was just comparing the ETonline voting tally of yesterday, 7/24 to today 7/25. I find it hard to believe the dramatic swing of votes for Nicole Kidman/Ewan McGregor/ and Moulin Rouge compared to Renee Zellweger/Colin Firth/Bridget Jones Diary on the last day of voting. Especially when Bridget Jones Diary was leading for a full month. I think your future awards may lose credibility with voters if Moulin Rouge wins. This was their reply: In advance thank you for your opinion. We have no control over who votes. However, we have a "cookie" installed so that whomever votes can only do it once. Therefore, the voting is accurate regarding one person/computer one vote. As such whatever is the final vote we have to honor it. Some explanation for the voting activity may be the result of last minute voting (people normally wait to the end to vote - today, July 25, at midnight we will stop the voting), as well as the fact that yesterday we had a national press release distributed to all media, an ad in the national issue of "The New York Times," and we launched an internet campaign encouraging the public to vote for their favorite. Once again thank you for your interest. Sincerely, John Jacobson I still think Colin Firth deserved to win.

alice, well done for sending the email. I think even when we suspect the likely outcome, we should still bung out as many emails as poss - after all, we got a result from the BBC eventually. kind of.

Welcome, Alice. I called the Hollywood Awards people today and got the same replies--verbatim-- that you did, though Jacobson wasn't the person I spoke to. They certainly had their ducks lined up. Here's how I replied: the fact that yesterday we had a national press release distributed to all media, I told him that they had sent out other press releases earlier in the month, so yesterday's should be no different, and besides, it was *not* picked up by the general media that the average person would read. However, we have a "cookie" installed so that whomever votes can only do it once. I wanted to laugh but made no comment. His naivete appalled me. an ad in the national issue of "The New York Times," I replied that I sincerely doubted that the average NY Times reader would be the type to hit the online celebrity polls at ET. and we launched an internet campaign encouraging the public to vote for their favorite. I have no idea what this means, but I do know that Fox, the studio that produced Moulin Rouge, sent out e-mails to all the people who had previously registered at their site seeking info on the film, urging them to vote for MR/Kidman/McGregor. Miramax, as we have seen time and again, is useless unless it's running an Oscar campaign. I also told him that there were no paper ballots at any Hollywood Video store that I or my friends across the country visited. I then called Entertainment Tonight and talked to the guy who is their liason with the website operator. I suggested the possibility of computer-generated block voting and that their programmers might be able to detect that. He agreed that such a large, late surge seemed unusual and said he'd look into it. Hey, we tried.:-( BTW, I did *not* mention Colin, Renee, or BJD in either conversation.

Round of applause for Alice and Mari! There is no doubt that this thing has been rigged in some technical way - hopefully ET will look into, but I still doubt that it will change the outcome.

Speaking of on-line voting: what was the magazine we all voted for Colin to be on the cover of and when is it supposed to come out? Was it GQ, Esquire? I've forgotten, I just know it was a "men's" magazine. I'm hoping that the vote there is more "democratic".

Nice to see you've delurked Alice and made your statement to the HFF folks. Good going, Mari! I replied that I sincerely doubted that the average NY Times reader would be the type to hit the online celebrity polls at ET. But that could account for the large surge in Ben Kingsley's numbers. He's now at 2%. ;-D Fox, the studio that produced Moulin Rouge, sent out e-mails to all the people And poor Miramax, who has Microsoft running all the *official* BJD sites around the world, didn't lift a finger. I suggested the possibility of computer-generated block voting and that their programmers might be able to detect that. He agreed that such a large, late surge seemed unusual and said he'd look into it. But of course those *cookies* would prevent such things in manner of massive bandwidth overload programs that have brought Microsoft to its knees. *am losing my cookies right now* Psst, Louise!! It was GQ.

Thanks. I just looked it up. It doesn't appear until the November issue. Hmmmm. . . guess we'll just have to wait for the Emmies and hope for the best. At least the rabid Stanley Tucci fans probably won't be stuffing the ballot box.

(Louise) At least the rabid Stanley Tucci fans probably won't be stuffing the ballot box. Never underestimate the clout of the vertically and follicly challenged. ;-) OK, as Cathey posted yesterday, she has tracked down the CF as Bond fantasy article and has scanned it in. I must say this cartoon artist (generous nomenclature) must not have a clue as to what CF looks like. I much preferred the last fantasy cartoon of CF as Hamlet. Here it is, with thanks to Cathey:

Eeek, that's scary. I sure don't remember Mr. Darcy showing that much chest with his shirts on...

Hello, I am relatively new here, only posted once before. I thought u guys might be interested in the BJD situation in Japan (or would it be topic 149?). BJD will open in Japan nationwide in September. On Jul-16 RZ (and one of the producers) went to Japan for the premiere and publicity. The questions in the press conference centered around her "gaining weight, losing weight" and how she identified with BJ...etc. No formal mention of Colin, only that she said the guys were wonderful to work with. The producer mentioned sth on the line of casting RZ and HG, but none on CF. He said they were dead set on casting an English girl for the role, but when RZ showed up in London for the audition, she was exactly the BJ that they have imagined, save the accent. So, they immediately offered her the role. As for HG, it had taken them a long time to convince him. The following day after HG had committed to the role, he called the producer saying that he didn't know how to play the role coz he didn't know anyone resembling Daniel. The producer simply told him to look i the mirror and he would find the perfect model. Well, the only interesting thing was that CF got a higher billing than HG on the posters and publicity materials, right after RZ and ahead of HG. I will keep track of any news and will post again if anything remotely connected with CF showed up in Japan. On the Hollywood video voting saga......coming from entertainment industry background (in Asia), I know most of these minor awards' results are fixed. I would not be surprised if the tip towards MR's favor was the entire doing of ETonline. Typically, they would offer the award to whoever committed to show up, or whichever studio that would care to twist their arms. So, let's all hope that CF will show up at the Emmy and will actually win sth that he long deserved.

Hi Alice. Welcome to our group. Wonderful to hear news from Japan. Keep it coming. Hooray for Renee, for showing up in Japan.She went to Australia too. (Alice)Typically, they would offer the award to whoever committed to show up, I've been saying that for years. And I don't blame them...do you? You set up a big event and then the winner mails in a canned video acceptance speech. If the award means anything to him/her...they'll show. Thanks Cathey and Karen for the Darcy -as- Bond.LOL..I'll go for it. Love the martini.Needs a hair cut though.

(Alice) BJD situation in Japan (or would it be topic 149?). For consistency (and lurkers who are only interested in BJD), I'd go with 149 in the future. :) Very interesting news, Alice. Sounds like it was all the same trip (Australia and Japan), but that many of the intl press also attended the big press conference with all the cast in LA back in March. I thought a lot of the comments sounded like Sharon Maguire (the director's) usual and customary soundbites. We've read the comment about the HG looking in the mirror a number of times. (Alice) I know most of these minor awards' results are fixed. Gasping, am shocked!! ;-) I would not be surprised if the tip towards MR's favor was the entire doing of ETonline. Typically, they would offer the award to whoever committed to show up, or whichever studio that would care to twist their arms. Well, the voting sure had the backing of Fox, the MR distributor. I say we expose them on Access Hollywood! Another David Manning situation, fake testimonials and now this!! ;-) Vindication for Evelyn.

Ooh, and I thought that PeopleNews-CNN comparison was funny! Am ROTF over that cartoon--the artist clearly has a sense of humor. (Alice) coming from entertainment industry background (in Asia), I know most of these minor awards' results are fixed Welcome and thanks, Alice. I've long suspected this. Sooo, ta-da, the winner of the HFF (presumably, have not checked) is Moulin Rouge's publicists. Thanks for writing/calling the folks at HFF, Alice F and Mari. I was also ROTF (this is a big floor day) about the cookie b'ness. Now, ladies, I am curious. How can you (as applicable) be outraged about the results when many of you were multi-voting (myself included)? How can you cry 'fix' when we were trying to 'fix' it ourselves? Yes, a win would have been nice publicity for CF but the Emmy nom is eons more credible. And ODB might even show up for that ceremony. ;-)

(Eileen) How can you (as applicable) be outraged about the results when many of you were multi-voting The ends justify the means.

(MachiaKaren) The ends justify the means *Heehee* OK, just don't go postal because CF didn't win.

Is strictly a matter of keeping one's hypocrisies straight in one's head. An organizational skill. Now, don't you feel like a Foolish Antelope? ;-)

(MamaNimi) Now, don't you feel like a Foolish Antelope? ;-) Nope. Can't outrig a rigger. ;-P

Hey Eileen, Karen is Machia and I'm Velli.:-) In my mind, there is a huge difference between the small-scale efforts of the little people (Yea!) vs. systemetized last-minute shenanigans of the big and powerful (boo, hiss!). That's my story and I'm sticking to it.;-) Rachael, good for you for getting a favorable response from the Beeb. I actually think it was very decent of Mr. Y to offer a loaner. At least he is trying to be accommodating and it's good to hear they have Conspiracy on their docket. Glad that somebody had some luck around here yesterday.

Hollywood Movie Of the Year Awards, Take One: The Scene: The L.A. offices of the esteemed accounting firm Dewy, Cheatem & Howe. "We will now begin the count of the paper ballots submitted by the 1,800 Hollywood Video stores: One . . .two. Tally is hereby certified at two."

Hollywood Movie Of the Year Awards, Take 2: The Scene: Somewhere in Italy. "But you promised we were gonna do something fun for a change today, Dad." "We are." "But you promised we were gonna bake cookies!" "We are. Now lower your voice or you'll wake the baby." "Pfft! Yeah right, like he ever sleeps anyway." "Shshhh and pay attention. Watch what I'm doing. You simply click on Ewan McGregor, then hit Submit. Now here's the tricky part . . . see what I did? Now you can go back again and Click . . . Submit." "Why are we voting for him? He sucks!" "Do you want us to have to cut our vacation short? Well? Answer me." "I'm thinkin', I'm thinkin'." "Don't think. Just bake."

LOL! I've been having visions of CF sitting in front of the computer voting against himself all month. But having the kid do it is better. ;-)

(Mari)In my mind, there is a huge difference between the small-scale efforts of the little people (Yea!) vs. systemetized last-minute shenanigans of the big and powerful (boo, hiss!). That's my story and I'm sticking to it.;-) I'm with you, Mari--Power to the [little] people! Loved your scenarios. Do you think Colin is computer-savvy enough to know about the cookie thing? Kids always know more about this stuff than their parents do. I would suggest the following dialogue: "Damn! This stupid thing gives me only one vote! How am I going to get rid of that 9 percentage-point lead?" "Duh, Dad! That's easy. Just find the cookie they left on your computer." [looks behind monitor and on top of CPU] "Where? Doesn't that get crumbs into bad places?" "Let me show you. See, here's how you get rid of the cookie. Now go back to ETONLINE and you can vote again." [clicking mouse slowly] "Ah, so how many times will I have to do this?" "Dad! Stop! Too slow! Too slow! Let me do it!" [cue "Ain't No Mountain High Enough"]

how many times will I have to do this? ROFLMAO love both scenarios, ladies

(Mari) "But you promised we were gonna bake cookies!" *howling with laughter* Good one!

O Lord, that cartoon was toooooooooo funny. Thanks for scanning it.

"Dad! Stop! Too slow! Too slow! Let me do it!" [cue "Ain't No Mountain High Enough"] *Reaching for the Windex* Waaaaay too funny!

Kate and Mari, you are so funny. You ought to be writing screenplays for ODB;-) The visions your dialogues evoke are hysterical and plausible! But it's all the funny business going on with MR and ETonline that makes me think that we've been laboring under a great misapprehension ;-(.

(Eileen)Now, ladies, I am curious. How can you (as applicable) be outraged about the results when many of you were multi-voting (myself included)? How can you cry 'fix' when we were trying to 'fix' it ourselves? Have to agree with Madame .Let's face it. They just marshaled a bigger and better army of "riggers" than we. Loathe on -line polls. {Lucie, our resident poll-lover, where are you?)

OOps, sorry. Yech, Nicolas Cage. Oh well, I shall continue to vote for him just to show my support.

Don't know what happened to the first part but there was a definite stench when I clicked on ETONLINE this morning. IHe is till ahead in the sexiest poll though. As I said I hope this is not rigged to make Nicholas Cage the winner.

Not that anyone here would really care, but Moulin Rouge will be in the same category as BJD for the Golden Globes. Remember, there is "Dramatic Films" and then there is "Comedies and Musicals" (one category)...so RZ's shoe-in may not be the case if MR gains some momentum. However, Supporting Actors all fall into the same category, i.e., no division between the genres.

[looks behind monitor and on top of CPU] "Where? Doesn't that get crumbs into bad places?" LOL, Kate! You have submitted an excellent Take 3.:-) You're right, the kid might have been the brains behind this one. But, sadly, there is a cost associated with such computer prowess: Hollywood Movie Of The Year Awards, Take 4: "Hello. You have reached the offices of the Screen Actors Guild member services. Please listen to the menu options, then make your selection. For complaints that your trailer isn't big enough, Press 1. For complaints about your co-star, director, agent, or masseuse, Press 2. For complaints about the press being too intrusive, Press 3. For complaints about the press ignoring you, Press 4. For complaints about SAG's refusal to pay for the damages you inflicted upon your hotel room in Cannes, Press 5. For help with "extreme exhaustion," Press 6. For emergency detox, still Press 6. For help in turning your banalities into epigrams, Press 7. For questions about your SAG medical plan benefits, Press 8." "Ah, that's the one I need, number 8. I can always do 7 later on." "Good morning, SAG Benefits Department." "Yes, I'd like to know if SAG will cover treatment of carpal tunnel syndrome for me and my son." "Is it a work-related injury, sir?" "Um . . . you might say that." "Hey, wait a minute . . . is this Mr. Hopkins again?" "No." "Mr. Pearce?" "Er, no." "Mr. Kingsley?" "Try again." "Well, you sound coherent, so I know it isn't Mr. Depp." "Could you please just answer the question?" "Ok, lemme look at my list. Hmmm . . . no carpal tunnel here. We do have one called repetitive stress injury." "That's it--I'll take it!" "Hold on . . . that'll work for you since it's job-related, but not your son." "Oh, I hadn't thought of that." "No problem. Everybody puts their relatives on the payroll. Just have them pencil in the kid for your next film's budget. Call him your personal assistant."

ROTFLMAO Mari.....I love it.

I've finally put up some screen captures from the MTV Diary program on Reese that show the cast. Sorry, but most of them (especially CF) didn't stand still very long and we couldn't get the chicken dance he does at the end. :-( http://www.spring.net/karenr/mdbro/earnest2.html

(Mari)Hollywood Movie Of The Year Awards, Take 4: Too funny! *wiping tears*

Hmmm, it appears that Fever Pitch is debuting on American TV: Thu Aug 2 12:55A HBOE3- HBO Signature Thu Aug 9 01:45P HBOE3- HBO Signature Sun Aug 12 12:50A HBOE3- HBO Signature Wed Aug 15 03:00A HBOE- Home Box Office Wed Aug 15 10:00A HBOE3- HBO Signature Wed Aug 22 04:25A HBOE3- HBO Signature Wed Aug 29 07:15P HBOE3- HBO Signature

Yeah. But why the hel-- er, heck are they putting most of the showings on in the middle of the night? Are they trying to cater to night shift workers or something? Don't they know that millions of BJD fans would love to see this movie? Sheesh.

I don't have HBO, but the TV's in my apartment complex gym do, but its just the main HBO channel. Is that what Fever Pitch is showing on ? Ain't nothing like pumping iron in the middle of the night, to give you a good nights sleep.

I think this one is the *regular* HBO. Take a nap in the afternoon. ;-) Wed Aug 15 03:00A HBOE- Home Box Office

Have you checked the previously viewed vids at Blockbuster. Fever Pitch must be down to $6.99 by now and, if they're running a Take $2 Special, well, it's fairly criminal IMO to leave it on the shelf.

Kewl, thanks....runs to get out some sweatpants that aren't in moth balls. I've looked in my local Blockbusters for FP, but it hasn't shown up yet.

Just a thought and maybe I have come up with this one just to cover my guilt for not having mastered my cookies but do you think it possible that the powers that be thought it unsuitable for a Brit film to win the awards at the Hollywood Film Festival?

MR has yet to open across Europe (opens September)."Hollywood Movie of the Year/Actor/Actress of the Year" emblazoned across all the promotional ads will give it a timely boost at the Box Office. BTW how can a film which "only" took $50 million at the US Box Office (and which cost the same to make) be the movie of the year? It's a fix! And what about all the phantom Video Stores "votes"? Mari)Hollywood Movie Of The Year Awards, Take 4: Too funny! *wiping tears* Agreed!

Oh my! They're doing a remake. Probably 4 years ago, I said I would like to see CF in the GG role. Unfortunately Madonna will be in it, and they'd cast CF in a minor role as the husband. Director Guy Ritchie and wife Madonna are set to work together on the big-screen for the first time, with a remake of Lina Wertmuller's 1975 movie "Swept Away." Madonna will take the lead role as a spoiled rich woman who goes on a yachting holiday with friends in the Mediterranean and gets entangled in an unlikely romance with a communist sailor. [Ed note: perfect!]... Wertmuller's original Italian-language movie starred Mariangelo Melato and Giancarlo Giannini. Few details are available of Ritchie's production, which has been kept firmly under wraps, but the picture is understood to be scheduled to shoot this fall....

Hang on, Mari's on a roll! I *love* this: For help with "extreme exhaustion," Press 6. For emergency detox, still Press 6. Goody, have multiple dates with Paul (except airings in middle of night; have already seen FP *mumble* times). And [American] football season is just around the corner! Am still ticked about Londinium's switcheroo to Cinemax but 10 p.m. PDT (1 a.m. here) is a laughable time slot for a 'world premiere.' Hahahaha.

but 10 p.m. PDT (1 a.m. here) is a laughable time slot for a 'world premiere.' Would be at 10 pm ET too. Remember ET and PT go together, while CT and MT are the same.

(Karen)Unfortunately Madonna will be in it, and they'd cast CF in a minor role as the husband. Not another role as the husband who loses his wife! This doesn't sound like a good opportunity. Working with a diva who's directed by her husband? Even Colin, who is a gentleman and NEVER complains about coworkers, would be driven to phone to SAG, pressing 2 repeatedly! (then, of course, 8 to report the injury caused by pressing 2 over and over again!)

I think this one is the *regular* HBO. Take a nap in the afternoon. ;-) "It's the accent stupid". They'll need a nap to understand it;-) Took me two tries and the screenplay.[ No remarks about being dense...gotta watch this crowd]. Besides maybe soccer players stay up later than most. 10 p.m. PDT (1 a.m. here) is a laughable time slot for a 'world premiere.' Esp. since they're giving priority to SM which isn't a 'world premiere'. (Allison) the powers that be thought it unsuitable for a Brit film to win the awards at the Hollywood Film Festival? Could be. But this is a Miramax film, backed with US money.I think it's more like Karen said...who is willing to attend ...We'll see.

Re: Londinium's time slot. Is savvy counter-programming move against the Jerry Lewis Muscular Dystrophy Telethon.;-) At this point, I'm just glad to get to see it; am too weak to complain. Events of the past days have left me a broken, defeated woman.:-( an unlikely romance with a communist sailor. [Ed note: perfect!]... LOL! Wasn't there a rumor floating around about a year ago that Colin was in line to be in a Madonna flick? Agree with Kate--# 2 would get a workout.:-) do you think it possible that the powers that be thought it unsuitable for a Brit film to win the awards at the Hollywood Film Festival? My gut reaction is no, as the list of nominees was weighted in favor of British actors. But then again, I was naive enough to think that this "contest" was on the up-and-up. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. A disgrace. Looks like the Kidman forces lost no time in trumpeting their "win." This is from today's reel.com column by Jeff Wells in which he takes a *very* early look at possible Oscar candidates among actresses: "Best Actress: Nicole Kidman, Moulin Rouge (winner of just-announced Hollywood Film Festival poll re: potential Best Actress winners); Ren�e Zellweger, Bridget Jones's Diary (possibly the token comic-performance contender, despite a declaration by an editor friend that Jones "is not an Oscar movie, good as she is"). . . If I had to guess, I would say throw out Kidman because Moulin Rouge has settled into mainstream Hollywood consciousness as a provocative failure that made your head feel like it was going to explode during the first 20 minutes."

winner of just-announced Hollywood Film Festival poll So they've counted up the ballots ballot. ;-)

Oh. My. Gawd! NOT A M*D*NNA PICTURE! Look what happened to Willem Dafoe after only one exposure. They must be offering CF a king's ransom.

My email to Jeffrey Wells: Dear Jeffrey, I think you should know that the Hollywood Film Festival Poll was rigged. I kept an eye on it for the whole month that it was up, and the results, for the entire month, up to the very last day of the poll, showed a decided majority for Colin Firth/Renee Zellweger/Bridget Jones Diary by a margin of 9% or more on every single day except the last one. On the last day of polling (actually, about the last 12 hours), Ewan McGregor/Nicole Kidman/Moulin Rouge suddenly came from WAY behind to overtake the BJD votes. ETOnline claims there was no way the poll could have been rigged - "We checked for cookies!" they say. Cookies (as anyone who has owned or operated an internet-enabled computer for more than two days can tell you) are easily deleted, and when they are, "VOILA!" one is able to vote again! (I tested this on the ETOnline.com poll, and it was quite easy to delete the cookies and vote again, which is obviously what Moulin Rouge's publicists were doing.) I think you should blow the whistle on this "poll and tell the public that it was rigged. I'm seriously considering setting up a website to do just that.

(Louise) Look what happened to Willem Dafoe after only one exposure. What happened to him? Serious Oscar contention, usually in the Supporting Actor category??? Hon, Colin hasn't been linked to this project. Years ago, I thought this would an interesting part for Colin in the GG role, going against type, playing a dirty, bourgeoise-hating (ok, that part isn't against type) sailor, lots of un-PC type behavior, plus super-snogging on the sandy beaches and little clothing...most of it falling into tatters. My guess is Benicio Del Toro for the GG role as he's worked with Guy before.

(Wells)Moulin Rouge has settled into mainstream Hollywood consciousness as a provocative failure that made your head feel like it was going to explode during the first 20 minutes Sounds like a movie LOTS of people would vote for!?!?!?

Yikes, all these HBOs 1,2,3,E,X,Y and Z. I don't know which ones I have. Will take strategic planning to catch Fever Pitch in August, then switch to Cinemax for Londinium in September. Is there a doctor in the house who can tell me why I have this need to see his old films on TV even though the videos are sitting there free for the watching? Or why I'd buy FP at Blockbuster, lurid cover and all even though I'd have to put a bag over my head first? I dont' even think I'd draw the line watching a rerun of Nostromo. Well , maybe The Secret Garden. ;-)

(Heide)Or why I'd buy FP at Blockbuster, lurid cover and all I know how you feel. I rented it at Blockbuster, and I was grateful that I could leave the original box on the shelf and take the tape in its "plain black wrapper" up to the desk. I doubt that whoever did the cover art for the US video ever saw the film. The good thing about Secret Garden is that, once you've seen it, you know which part of the tape to watch.

...and leave the tape permanently at that spot. Can't say I've watched it too recently. ;-) Film is good though if you want to make your own compilation tape featuring "my that man looks good in uniform" or "kisses from A to Z" or "most wooden performances".

Whose wooden performances? Surely, discussions of wooden performances do not belong on this board. :)

Question: Has anybody in UK taken Alan Yentob up on his generous offer to lend DQ tape? Just curious.

Evelyn - I wrote back to say yes please but since I don't live in London how do I do it, and am awaiting response.

And ask them to lend us a good copy of Tumbledown at the same time.

I did ask Rachael to include that--and others--in her request. Put in a P.S. about an NTSC copy while they're at it. ;-)

Can I put my bid in for Lost Empires?Mine is doggy;-)

I don't think that was a BBC production.

There's a chap in the US who has a reasonable copy (I'm told) and sells homemade copies for quite a steep price. Greedy b*****d. Do you want his details?

Question: Does anybody know a place on the web when one can buy a PAL copy of SLOW at a reasonable price? I found SLOW at Black Star (L66,97)and at Bensons World (L59,35). Yet, I found their prices sort of exorbitant and anyway why this VHS is so expensive? I could get some DVDs or even more VHSs for this sum. Grateful in advance. I imagine Colin must be browsing some gripping scripts in Umbria. How long can one stand sunbathing in Italy, even if one have your family on your side? I hope Karen will get some info soon.

I have been told that Colin was interviewed on Australian TV yesterday morning. There aren't anymore details as yet. It might be some footage from the LA junket or even the UK's "Making of" program. Will hear more later and will have pictures. Yippee!! (Aniutek) PAL copy of SLOW at a reasonable price? So far the only place to get them in the UK has been the ex-rental (previously viewed) bin at video stores. Maybe one day the price will be reduced or a more reasonable DVD will be issued.

I imagine Colin must be browsing some gripping scripts in Umbria Sure hope so! We're planning on spending a few days in the Lakes, so I phoned to ask about MOB, just incase they were filming! Does not sound like a goe-er. Has been "delayed" and "they don't know what's going to happen". I asked if they would start filming before the end of the year and the reply was "Hopefully". He added that they would have to re-cast as the first one "went down the drain". The only way of getting cheaper copies now of SLOW and MLSF in the UK is recording them if/when they're on Cable TV. SLOW was...MLSF is currently...(on Front Row...retained for the third month, so someone must be paying!)

(Bethan) He added that they would have to re-cast as the first one "went down the drain". Ah ha...I've got it . Just read an interview with Penelope Cruz . Interviewer: "And what are you going to do next" PC "I'm going to rest, study some more photography until about February when I might be starting a new movie which I can't talk about." That's it...MOB. Lola Films, espanol...get it? "The accent" you ask. Hmmm, well, there might be a little problem there. But after Renee, the British public is v. forgiving;-) I know, boss, this should be at O&E.But felt I had to pound the last nail in the MOB coffin;-) BTW...anybody wanna buy my MOB book? Cheap. I'll throw in Armadillo. AND ..Hamlet.

I asked if they would start filming before the end of the year and the reply was "Hopefully" Did you tell him about Misan Sagay's credit card? ;-D He added that they would have to re-cast as the first one "went down the drain". Ooh, doesn't sound as if CF will do this one. That sound you hear is Evelyn and Karen celebrating. :-) Looking forward to those pics, Karen. Thanks in advance.

Story about TIOBE on Excite News - it's hit the big time. Director Revisits Oscar Wilde

Huge sigh of relief ;-) Thanks, Sarah. Possible Christmas release in one or two cities? Hmmmm, Miramax wants Oscar consideration for Judi again??

Bethan, it could be that Catherine McCormack has backed out of MOB and not Colin, she is very busy at the moment. Also looking forward to the pictures Karen, how do you do it, many thanks, things have been so quiet lately.

(AP article) Says Firth, the movie "offers you the opportunity to escape the cliches of the play." Thank goodness. (Karen) Possible Christmas release in one or two cities? Hmmmm, Miramax wants Oscar consideration for Judi again?? Betcha. Otherwise, it won't go into wide release until the spring? I can't remember when a movie opened then vanished completely for months. Usually it's only a matter of weeks, isn't it?

Huh ? The movie offers you the opportunity to escape the cliches of the play ? So Hamlet is "cliched" now.....who woulda' thunk ? Poor Will Shakespeare, I bet he is turning in his grave. No seriously Eileen, where is the rest of that article, was it in a newspaper ?

(Eileen) I can't remember when a movie opened then vanished completely for months. Isn't that done all the time? They open the movie in 1 theatre in LA and 1 in NY, just so that it qualifies for the Oscars. Usually it opens sometime later in January, but some are held for longer. (Beth) The movie offers you the opportunity to escape the cliches of the play ? So Hamlet is "cliched" now Think CF is referring to the play, The Importance of Being Earnest. The article is linked above in Sarah's message, but you can find it at anyplace that does AP stories, like Yahoo: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ap/20010801/en/wkd_going_wilde_1.html

Gotcha Karen, thanks.

Oh dear! Have just noticed that this news item says Colin is 41. :-(

(Firth)Says Firth, the movie ``offers you the opportunity to escape the cliches of the play.'' Aw...you mean Cecily isn't going to say: "I could never marry anyone whose name isn't Ernest". Way to go Oliver...

"I could never marry anyone whose name isn't Ernest". I think she will say that but it will be because she has his name tatooed on her body (I wonder where?). I am so looking forward to the look on Jack's face when he sees it and realises that he really will have to be Ernest!

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(Karen) Isn't that done all the time? They open the movie in 1 theatre in LA and 1 in NY Durr, I know that, I was referring to the time lag. As you point out, wide release usually follows within a month. The article said 'spring', so we're talking March at the earliest. Have just noticed that this news item says Colin is 41. I noticed too. Close enough, I suppose (how many days until CF's birthday? Where's the countdown when you need it ;-)).

(Karen, Beth) Thank you for your advice regarding SLOW purchase. I have only one problem. I don't live in the UK and don't plan any trips there in the nearest future. I was thinking about buying SLOW through Internet. Are ex-rentals sold in this way? They're releasing AIH in Poland at the end of this month, so maybe I'll see TIOBE in two years' time.

I came across this article in a back issue of Film Review. I'm sure it has been posted previously but I thought new people (plus people like me who can't remember everything she reads) might be interested http://www.visimag.com/filmreview/f128display.htm

(Eileen) I was referring to the time lag. As you point out, wide release usually follows within a month. Durrr! Of course, you'd know that. There have been a few. Going back to last year, I've found a few: Pollock played for one week only in NY/LA from Dec 15; then went "Wider" on Feb 16. Vatel (another they had Oscar hope for) opened in NY and LA on 12/25/2000; then went Wider (although I don't think it came here) on 2/23/01 I think Enemy at the Gate actually did the same and then opened on March 16. Appears phenom associated with mainly *art house* flicks. ;-)

(re Cathey's Film Review link) I bought the print mag when I found it in a bookstore here (ick, import mag prices), but I hadn't seen the online version yet. Great tagline(?) to entice ppl to read the article: The saturnine hunk of brooding manliness that is Colin Firth explains what it was like to effectively return to the role that made him a national hero, and holds forth on the joys of punching Hugh Grant. Oh. Yeah. I am now going to refer to CF as SHoBM.

an AFG SHoBM *ROFL*

Perfect! :)

" Saturnine hunk of brooding manliness " O Cathy, I LOVE it !!!!

Ananova has picked up the Matt Wolf TIOBE article with the title: "Director admits new Oscar Wilde film may not please everyone" Excellent way to sell this film. http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_365492.html?menu=

Empire online (movie mag) has just started their "Ultimate film poll" - vote for best actor, film, director, etc etc http://www.empireonline.co.uk/ultimatemoviepoll/ lets get cracking!

You are joking, aren't you? How cruel when we're the walking wounded. ;-)

maybe I'm naive but this one seems a bit more reliable than the last crew - no awards ceremony to be bribed over, and you have to fill in your personal details when you vote so would be hard to set up cookies or whatever to rig it. And there's no "running score" thing as far as I can tell so you can't see who has what percentage, its totally open nominations rather than "pick from a limited list" I've done it, anyway

Good news that TIOBE is getting an early release - looks as though it's going to be well promoted! On the non-acting front CF is listed as a patron of the organisation AVID Association Visitors to Immigration Detainees. They have a very informative site at http://www.aviddetention.org.uk Fellow patrons are Lord Russell (son of Bertrand Russell, the philosopher) and Sir Stephen Tumin, High Court Judge - very auspicious company. If you scroll down the index to AVID Periodical No 1, you'll find a very interesting interview with CF's mum.

Bethan, please check your email at usa.net. I have something important.

Ok, this is a great organisation and much deserving of our support.... but did anybody else chuckle at all, over CF's mom's involvment in all this, especially when you consider the Agani/Heaney plot line in BJD ? I really don't mean to trivialise a very important issue, really I don't. I jsut thought it was funny, not to mention ironic.

Beth this is a brilliant link, thanks a million. Where I live, we have a load of Albanian/Kosovan refugees, and I've seen some of the lads come in for some sickening abuse in town, and now I'm just in awe of Mrs F, what a woman. To have her courage, oh boy. I'd always assumed that Mark Darcy was written as a Human Rights lawyer to catch onto CF's interest in HR issues ... or maybe I'm reading more Machiavellian impulses into Helen Fielding than is strictly necessary

I don't think Helen F. met Colin, or got to know him well enought to know his beliefs and family background, until she was introduced to him, while he was filming Fever Pitch ( remember the hilarious BJ column ). The characters of Bridget Jones and Mark Darcy ( and what MD did for a living )already exhisted by then. So I'm thinking it's just a coincidence. Then again, was MD a human rights barrister in the book, or just a non specific barrister ? I'm remodeling my book shelves and can't find my copy of the book, to check, gosh darn it.

Wonder if either of these has potential: Miramax signs Jacobs to sweet multifilm deal Building off their successful collaboration on "Chocolat," Miramax Films has signed a multipicture writing/executive producing deal with the film's Oscar-nominated screenwriter, Robert Nelson Jacobs. Up first under the deal, Jacobs will adapt David Liss' "Conspiracy of Paper," a thriller set against the beginnings of the stock exchange in 1720s London. "Chocolat" helmer Lasse Hallstrom and producing partner Leslie Holleran are on tap to produce the project, with an eye toward Hallstrom directing [Ed note: bleech].... "Bob (Weinstein) and I have always appreciated how important a great writer is to a film's success, and Robert is one of the best," Miramax co-topper Harvey Weinstein said. "Robert has an extraordinary ability to develop screenplays that provide this blueprint for great films." [i.e., Oscar films, with Oscar-nominated actors] Jacobs is at work writing two other feature projects for Miramax. He is adapting "Solomon Grundy," based on British writer Dan Gooch's novel, which Danny Boyle is set to direct for producer Richard Gladstein, and "The Water Horse," based on Dick King-Smith's children's book, to be produced in the United Kingdom by Sarah Curtis and Douglas Rae....

Have just read descriptions of these at amazon. Definitely not the second, but the first would be an interesting *character* part.

Leslie Holleran are on tap to produce the project, with an eye toward Hallstrom directing [Ed note: bleech].... LOL! I see you are still having fun. Greetings from Lake Como! See you at the end of August. The temp. in Umbria and Tuscany is 40 degrees, I wonder how ODB and baby are putting up with it? Cheers!

The temp. in Umbria and Tuscany is 40 degrees Big whoop. Where I'm vacaying, here at Undisclosed Location, it's 90.;-) Good to hear from you, Moon! Well, can autumn be far behind if Miramax is already sending up pre-Oscar trial balloons with friendly journalists? That AP article on TIOBE appeared on the same day as a letter from Baz B. in Jeff Wells's column touting Judi as award-worthy for Iris, whuch Miramax will also release.

1720's London Karen.....I like it, I like it. Lots of billowing white shirt and britches potential there.

By the way, I've only been back here a couple of months, after a 6 month computerless absence. Whatever happened to the Maid of Buttermere movie ? Did Colin ever commit to it, or was it just our wishful thinking that I remember reading about ? Now that Catherine whatsherface has pulled out, is the whole thing a no-go, or are they gonna re-cast and plough ahead ? Sorry if I'm rehashing an old topic, but like I said, I was away for a bit.

Beth - got it!! - Jan 8th entry for BJD, Tom says "Mark Darcy? But isn't he that famous lawyer - the human rights guy?" so he was an HR lawyer in the book as well as the film. so your theory is right and as usual I'm off beam ;-)

Nah Rachael, we still love you....now get thee to thy computer and 'git cracking on the rest of that shower scene.

(Beth) Whatever happened to the Maid of Buttermere movie ? Did Colin ever commit to it, or was it just our wishful thinking that I remember reading about? Our? Who is this collective "our"? ;-) Once upon a time, a script was sent to Colin. He read it and slammed it down on the table and said, "Sh*t! Another one of those period pieces with ruffly white shirts." He called his agent to complain about the quality of scripts being sent to him. "Come on, Paul, there's got to be something else out there for me to do that doesn't require a white ruffly shirt. Besides, I'd have to get my kit off for this one all the time and, you know, I'm getting a little too old for that. Besides, the book is by that prat Bragg." Paul explained that Carlos Saura was the director and he could probably work with him about the latter concern and that it would be filmed in the Lake District during the summer, when the weather and the vistas would be beautiful. "What's Saura done?" Colin asked. Paul replied, "Not very much in English. His work is pretty obscure and arty." Colin consulted his diary, thinking the Lake District might be a nice place for a vacation for the boy, something his mother would like for him (back-to-nature stuff). Unenthusiastically, Colin agreed to do it as a mortgage payment was due. The film company, Lola, enthusiastically publicized the coup by mentioning it in the final line of the final paragraph of press release about another one of its directors. Then it rained for forty days and forty nights. Ooops, wrong story. Much time passed--actually a year--when Lola announced a new director had been attached to direct the Maid. Since Colin's commitment was tied to the original director, Saura, once that guy abandoned ship, Colin was free to pursue other interests. Lola tried to entice Colin back to the project, floating his name and Catherine McCormack's in the press. Colin told his agent to convey his regrets to the people at Lola but Harry Potter beckoned.

Hot news!! The new A&E DVD can be preordered and may begin shipping at the end of August. Check out A&E's site. The emphasis is ALL Colin. Sorry, Ev, but JE is not even mentioned by name and look how she's been relegated to the background of the DVD cover and made an equal of Jane. Shocking! ;-) "With a masterful script, deft direction and a star-making performance from Colin Firth (Bridget Jones' Diary, Shakespeare in Love) PRIDE AND PREJUDICE transports viewers to Georgian England, where affairs of the heart are an exquisite game, and marriage the ultimate prize." http://store.aetv.com/cgi-bin/ae.storefront/0/Ext/OutsideFrame/UT/32/Product/70254

ROTF. Hilarious MOB scenario redux, boss. (Karen) Sorry, Ev, but JE is not even mentioned by name and look how she's been relegated to the background of the DVD cover and made an equal of Jane. Shocking! ;-) Yeah. Like who held those six episodes together;-D Hmmm. Makes it look like he's trying to decide between Jane and Lizzie. Like old cover mobetta'.

Hi all! It's good to be back. It really wasn't safe to go on vacation - first an Emmy nomination followed by the Hamlet cancellation then, the loss at the poll and now a new DVD. What a roller coaster! All new fans of Colin should be warned. :-) I have yet another attack of Firth Fever to report: I went to see Princess Diaries yesterday. Caroline Goodall says to Julie Andrews, "Even though things didn't work out between me and your son, I want you to know I did love him." And, being a true Firthette, I thought, "No, you mean her nephew." ;-)

I noticed that A&E lists BJD prominently after CF's name--they know from whence many of their new P&P2 purchasers are to come.

(Louise) "No, you mean her nephew." ;-) LOL! Well, she hardly saw him...or Little Eddie. ;-) Two guesses who took a day off from his vacation to do a little work:

BTW, Moon is having a conniption fit. ;-)

Following is an article from an Australian Magazine. It appeared a couple of weeks ago, and also had the photos of Colin and Luca which appeared in a UK newspapger some time back. Sorry its taken me so long to get around to sharing it with you. He�s tall, dark, handsome and he loves kids! Could Colin Firth, alias Mr Darcy, be the perfect man? OK, so it�s confusing fantasy and reality, but doesn�t the sight of Mr Darcy going clucky over his newborn son make you feel all gooey? Hey Bridget, here�s the perfect man� Of course, it�s actor Colin Firth wheeling his real-life son, four-month-old Luca, around their north London neighbourhood. But the author of Bridget Jones�s Diary, Helen Fielding, has seen to it that Colin will for ever be Mr Darcy in the minds of the world�s singletons. Colin, 40, became a pin-up after playing the brooding Mr Darcy in the top-rating 1995 TV adaptation of Jane Austen�s Pride & Prejudice. In a copycatting tribute, Helen wrote the Bridget Jones character of Mark Darcy with Colin in mind. �It�s very complicated,� Colin says. �I�m playing somebody who�s based on a character in a book, who�s based on a role that I played, who�s based on a character in a book!� Colin broke hears when he married Italian film-maker, Livia Guiggioli, 31. Now they have Luca, his second son - he has a 10-year-old, William, from a relationship with US actress Meg Tilly - and he�s busy making time between films to be a family man. �I want a break�, he says. �Too many Darcys could be dangerous!�

ROTFLMAO at you Karen, you are beyond funny......O my goodness....... That DVD cover is to die for. I'm gonna buy it, even though I don't even have a DVD player. I do feel bad for Jennifer Ehle though, if she ever sees this, she'll wonder if she was even in the darn thing. I know it is being marketed at the droves of post BJD Colin Frth fans, but still.... it does seem a wee bit unfair to her, doesn't it ?

(Bethanne) I do feel bad for Jennifer Ehle though, if she ever sees this, she'll wonder if she was even in the darn thing. Nah, she won't care...*she* won the BAFTA;-) ~~~~~~~~~~ Hey Karen...those are some pics. The ole boy is really getting the hang of publicity. "Keep smelling the coffee, Colin." Don't miss 'em gang...they're on The Bucket.

LOL Evelyn, I'm sure looking at that BAFTA on her bookshelf, made filling in all those Waterstone job applications, less of a chore. By the way, is that Colin's ear and sideburn in that pic ? I'm sorry but I'm totally lost.

Ignore that last question....just found the pix.

love your sense of humour Karen. Anne

O my Good Sweet Lord ( excuse the blasphemy ) but he looks incredible in black......sigh, drool, slobber........kinda reminds me of how great he looked in all black in P&P ( piano scenes at Pemberley and Rosings mainly )

loved, loved, loved, the really short hair too.

O.K., I have the following burning question for you experts: will I get the P&P2 DVD earlier if I order it from A&E, or can I save $10 and order it from Amazon, and get it just as quickly (or nearly so)? If, as you say, A&E is sending it out in late August, it sounds like I can get it earlier there if I pay the "bounty" to A&E. I don't mind waiting a couple of days, but if Amazon can't send it out until the "release date" of Sept. 25, well, I don't think I can wait that long. I just bought a DVD player today, so I need to get P&P2 at the earliest possible availability. I am dying to see CF with much greater clarity than ever before. (By the way, I just found Fever Pitch and Relative Values on DVD at Amazon for very reasonable prices. My recollection from the last time I looked over there was that FP wasn't available on DVD and that RV was incredibly expensive. But they are winging their way to me even now! What was the name of that movie? "Can't Hardly Wait"? Ungrammatical, but all too true!)

Glad you liked the pics. There might be another conference for tech discussions, but remember, this isn't like a chatroom.

Please email each other in the future. Thanks

Don't miss 'em gang...they're on The Bucket. Oh Karen, those pics were well worth the effort;-) Wonderful, breathtaking. Thank you so much.

Fantastic pictures - he looks so well and rested. Thank you Karen. Wonder how Sharon M felt being interviewed alongside him like that remembering what she said when she had to stand in for Renee opposite him and say "I love you".

(Cathey) Following is an article from an Australian Magazine. Thanks for taking the time to type out the article. Always nice to see a little hype for our boy. A shame they had to publish those pics under the guise of BJD publicity. A bigger shame is that a Holier-Than-Thou webmistress posted the article and the pics. While she constantly takes things from here without giving credit, I never thought I'd live to see the day she did this... :-(

I'm thinking Colin showed off his Italian during the press conference...don't you think? Thanks Cathey for taking the time to type the article.We always enjoy the publicity from your neck of the woods. A bigger shame is that a Holier-Than-Thou webmistress posted the article and the pics. Thank you boss, for taking the high road on Spring.We all know he was upset over those pics. I thought that's why we have Springfolks. (Bethanne)LOL Evelyn, I'm sure looking at that BAFTA on her bookshelf, made filling in all those Waterstone job applications, less of a chore. Hey pal...you forgot your *winkie*;-)

Fox News reprinted the AP article by Matt Wolf from a few days ago, pictures are of CF & FO, and JD and director, Oliver Parker. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,31400,00.html

Pardon my bad manners, Moon. Grazie for giving Karen the Lucarno FF heads-up.Trans Atlantic! What a team... You made our weekend.

The pictures at the Locarno Film Festival just took my breath away! I just shook my head and said "he is too good-looking!" This is all very odd for me - I am a 30+ year old happily married woman with kids and a career and I have a crush on colin firth after seeing BJD.

On Finnish Cosmopolitan cover:COLIN FIRTH -SEX SYMBOL AGAINST HIS WILL I didn`t have time to look at the article, but I`m going shopping tomorrow:)

I haven't been keeping up on the TIOBE news, but I checked on the Fox site. Thanks, Marianne. And my oh my, those Locarno shots. Ding dong, indeed! But what's with the PC dribble Sharon's spouting? (Hope you don't mind me filching this quote from your site, Karen:) At the end Bridget chooses the more reliable (Firth) but as the director said, "They are two different types, one to marry and the other to have as a lover. It would be lovely if one woman could have both even in real life." I know she was just trying to be nice to Hughie as well as molto Italiano but Ms. Maguire, you can't honestly mean Mark couldn't fulfill both roles quite satisfactorily. What techie stuff did I miss? I haven't got my DVD yet and could use the advice.

Great Earnest pics, Marianne. Thanks. I've added a couple of links to Real Video and audio from Locarno. The video is mainly Sharon Maguire with the movie trailer, but hang in there as Colin is shown being interviewed as well. Unfortunately, there is Italian narration over the whole thing, as in the Audio interview link which is a Q&A session with Colin. Gaaah :-( http://www.spring.net/karenr/mdbro/bjdlff.html If anyone would like to take a stab at translating Colin's interview back into English, feel free. ;-) I'm sure there's another Conference on Spring more appropriate for a discussion of DVD features/prices or email.

Yummy video, thanks Karen. I admire SM for obviously being able to answer the journalists questions, 'wot with being pressed up against Col's chest like that, sharing a microphone. If it were me, I'd be hyperventilating and stuttering to beat the band. If I remember right in BJD and The Edge of Reason, Shazzer and Jude were just as smitten by Mr Darcy/Colin, as Bridge was. I wonder if working with him every day filming BJD, cured her of all that, or if she still gets butterflies in her tummy, when she is up close with him ? O to be SM during that press conference....

Where is everybody? I know those pics from Locarno were devastating but surely everybody has recovered now;-) O to be SM during that press conference.... I have a horrid feeling SM might be more of a Huge girl:-(. I thought her comments about a girl needing a Daniel type as a lover and a Mark as a husband probably reflected her own views and were not just her being diplomatic. After all Colin is a smug married while HG is a famous flirt.

(Allison) I have a horrid feeling SM might be more of a Huge girl:-(. Very true. Even though she may have been part of the group that came under the spell while watching P&P, she probably liked Huge from way back when. It's that or she felt an overwhelming need to stroke his ego by playing up to him in all the press. BTW, Terry has set up several DVD topics, one of them is in Movies, so go to it.

(Allison) Where is everybody? Am back from vac and reporting for duty, ma'am. ;-P Am sure many others are still away. People tend to do that sort of thing in August. Karen, loved your hilarious Official MoB Fairy Tale. Was ROTF. Thanks also for the FF pics (hats off to Moon!). Have super-duper zoomed in on that pink piece of paper in CF's hand. It says 'call Karen ASAP, for hot role tips'. So did he call? ;-D

(Eileen) It says 'call Karen ASAP, for hot role tips'. Gaah! Have been on the phone all a.m. Probably has been trying to call. ;-)

Well if he left you a message, plueeeze don't do what Bridge did in E of R and erase the darn thing with an incoming call. Do you have any friends called Tom ? If you do, e mail him and, tell him not to call you under ANY circumstances. Am dying to hear if you remained calm, cool and collected in manner of detatched ice queen, while you were on the phone with him.

Found this little item in this week's The National Enquirer. THAT SPECIAL TOUCH: Gay actor Rupert Everett ad-libbed two weird moves that stunned co-star Colin Firth while filming "The Importance of Being Earnest." In a scene where they're supposed to shake hands, Rupert swept Colin into his arms and KISSED HIM on the cheek! And in a shot that called for Rupert to slap Colin on the back - he slapped him on the ass instead! Both times, Colin's stunned reaction cracked everyone up! After viewing the scenes, the director elected to keep them - and Colin agreed!

LOL.That's Rupee, the "scene -stealer". Sounds hilarious.Definitely not in the play;-)

(Marianne) Found this little item in this week's The National Enquirer. Was the line very long at the grocery store? ;-) (birdcage liner) After viewing the scenes, the director elected to keep them - and Colin agreed! Wot, no pictures??? Hopefully, the latter scene was while Jack is getting out of the tub. *hee hee*

Pffft! Who wants to bet we'll be reading this at Ananova or PeopleNews (assuming latter is still operating) tomorrow? Homophobic Firth Stunned by Gay Costar [content same as National Birdcage Liner's but without exclamation points and with a misappropriated quote or two.] Am glad they decided to keep the scenes as is. Is worth the price of admission. ;-)

(Evelyn) That's Rupee, the "scene -stealer"....Definitely not in the play;-) As was done by "The Man Born to Do Oscar Wilde," I'm sure it should've been. ;-)

RE: Film Festival Pics I'm glad this is the place to drool because pictures of CF just keep getting better and better and better. Doesn't he know he's over forty and can stop looking so gorgeous now? Not even a bald spot showing. Now how did that happen?

Caribou, absolutely!! AFG or what? corrr .. if only I could work out why my sound card isn't working I could listen to the Locarno stuff, instead of watch and lip read - but then, what lips to read *thud* oops fell off chair

It's offically a fix! Just saw the Hollywood Movie Awards coverage on ET. Guess who was at the awards? Loved the question to NK about how many people were 'touched' by the film to vote for it. Ya right. Sure they were touched - by cookieitis.

Yup, I saw it too......talk about a fix, sheesh !!

Marianne: Rupert swept Colin into his arms and KISSED HIM on the cheek! And. . . slapped him on the ass instead! Both times, Colin's stunned reaction cracked everyone up! After viewing the scenes, the director elected to keep them - and Colin agreed! Well, if they do indeed keep those scenes in the film, we'll know who the playwright's alter ego is meant to be (as if we didn't already). The question is, will Cecily "know" that Algy's pendulum swings both ways? This film may be historic for the subtext alone--if the actors play the scenes the opposite of the literal meaning of the words. I can hardly wait to see Judi Dench flirting with CF and RE. Imagine how she can put new meaning into the term "recumbent position". ;-)

Oh, excuse me, that would be "semi-recumbent posture", wouldn't it? (I sort of like mine better, as far as double entendres go).

So when Rupee smacked Col on his posterior, do we actually see his hand make contact, or is it a face shot and we merely see Col's reaction to aforementioned butt smack ? Hmmmmmm, enquiring minds need to know.

Hey if you can catch the Tonight Show, Caroline Rhea is on and she talks about Colin's visit to Rosie and how he didn't 'get' her joke about it being down to her or Renee for the role. Of course dear Jay didn't know who ODB was - thought he was from Notting Hill! ;-P Bloody hell I am in heaven tonight - a Colin mention and my bloody fave band!!!!

(Rebecca) Loved the question to NK about how many people were 'touched' by the film to vote for it. That was funny, wasn't it? Am picturing the scene if the BJD crowd had been there. Colin would be standing there awkwardly (in manner of EMcG), while Julie Moron only spoke to RZ, with strange, silent person (film's director) standing on other side. Colin would then obliging mumble two words about seeing his co-star again. Back to RZ. Hmmm, have just noticed that Valmont is on TV tomorrow night (AMC). Is this a first? Feels like an event to me...might have to put aside my James Dean tape fest... Carolyn Rhea is on Leno right now and has been telling her CF story. Leno wasn't understanding who he was (argh, said Notting Hill) and CR said, "no, no, he's the gorgeous one from BJD." Went over badly.

Is there somewhere I can send flowers to Caroline Rhea at ? Major, major props to her, for mentioning ODB on national TV and generally spreading the disease of Firthitis amongst the masses. ( Who needs West Nile Virus when we have Firthitis ? ) What a shame Leno had to spoil it....gahh !!! What time is Valmont on ?

FRom one of the London Theatre websites: "6th August 2001 Dame Judi Dench, Colin Firth, Reese Witherspoon and Rupert Everett are expected to star in a new movie version of Oscar Wilde's classic play The Importance of Being Earnest. The comedy has been filmed before, with Michael Redgrave and Edith Evans in the leads, back in 1952. However, Parker's version (due for Christmas release) may yet ruffle a few feathers with the director stating, "The spirit of Earnest demands something different... something wonderfully light but anarchic". A stage version, starring Patricia Routledge enjoyed a West End run earlier this year having initially played at the Theatre Royal, Haymarket in 1999. Dame Judi played Lady Bracknell in the National Theatre's 1982 production" ~~~~~~~~~~ From the reports of Rupee's antics on the set, sounds like anarchy is alive and well on the set of TIOBE;-)Roll on Christmas. *evelyn , who is walking the streets looking for anyone who take Cinemax*

are expected to star Ooh, crack reporting. Film is in can. :-/ evelyn , who is walking the streets looking for anyone who take Cinemax Can't you subscribe for just a month? I remember others doing that in the past, when RV was broadcast on Starz. (Beth) Is there somewhere I can send flowers to Caroline Rhea Send 'em with a note informing her that he *did* get her joke.

Blackadder Back and Forth is on Sky One (UK) tonight at 10 pm (just in case anyone's checking in here in time)

Carolyn Rhea is on Leno right now and has been telling her CF story. .... Went over badly. Good, maybe she'll take that story out of her bag of tricks. Love her to death for calling him gorgeous on national TV but she makes ODB sound like humorless prig. Ooh, thanks, Karen, for the headsup on Valmont. 10:00 pm tonight, EST. I may actually still be awake. Nice of Terry to have set up a DVD topic. Shall I meet you other girls there?

Valmont is on now, Valmont is on now.......ahhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We're back! Thanks for helping us, Koti! koti@spring.net got us running again.

If you want to email your thanks to Koti, I won't mind!

Hurrah! I just came back from vacation, and this morning my pseudonym was shown as "unprivileged user." Scared me silly! I thought I was being thrown off for not having posted for more than a week. I couldn't find an internet cafe anywhere we were, so I had to make do with just one picture of Colin for almost two weeks. (A friend made a bookmark with his face on it. So I use that as the bookmark in my diary, thus I have an excuse for carrying Colin with me) I missed reading all the posts and seeing the pictures at the Bucket. Going back to take another look at those, now!

The New York Post has an online ballot on which you can cast your vote/prediction for the Emmys. At the risk of being ridden out of here on a rail, I must point out that this is not a contest. ;-) http://www.pagesix.com/emmys/emmys.htm Karen, the Locarno pics and report are breathtaking! Ding Dong, indeed!:-) What a find--big kudos to you and Signora Luna.

If there's a spot for write-in votes, I have a premonition that "Red Mill" will win. Again.

Signora Luna would rather have a Cosmopolitan rather than a kudo. ;-) Hmmm, can you possibly think of anything better than to watch BJD under the stars with a certain bellringer around... BTW, are people aware that Fever Pitch is being shown on HBO late Tuesday/early Wednesday morning. Colin's films are finally making it to our television. Unfortunately, the TV Guide (the real one, not newspaper supplement) showed the film as starring Luke Aikman and Beatrice Guard. Was that the mother??????

are people aware that Fever Pitch is being shown on HBO Holly Aird (who was in FP) featured in this week's Sunday Times glossy mag. She mentions CF....."He's sexy because he's an extremely nice man."

there's more than one film called Fever Pitch...are you sure it's not the non-CF one?

Definitely CF version. LA is young Paul and BG Paul's sister who must have starred for all of five minutes:-)

Bizarre!

Thanks, Aishling, for identifying Beatrice. I was too lazy to look it up, but of course recognized Luke's name, plus there's the year/country of origin and film description which all matched. The only thing missing was the name of the STAR of the film. :-)

Here's the link to the Sunday Times article about "New Brits on the Lot" where she says 'sexy because he's a really nice guy': http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/08/12/stimazmaz02005.html?999 [Didn't know that Holly was in the Flame Trees of Thika as a child.]

Hello. I've been away for a while. Followed interestedly the discussion about CF's withdrawal from Hamlet. I won't add anything, except to say that it's a shame no Firthettes will now be visiting London. Almost entirely off the subject, I preferred Sam West to SRB. Back on the subject, I will offer only a dismissive sneer at the decision to relegate JE to the background of the DVD cover. The favourable comparison with Jane - the abundance of flesh crammed into one sister's neck is rather more attractively distributed in the other - is all the starker.

Speaking of Fever Pitch, Empire has an item (from the Mirror) about the American remake of the film which I shall put on Topic 148...even though Empire has a pic of CF accompanying the article. Nice to see you back, Ben. However, fortunately, for you, the British DVD shows a very equal JE and CF on its cover. Besides, art should not be judged by the amount of cleavage shown.

From the same people who don't know when to broadcast Conspiracy: Spielberg drama loses BBC1 primetime slot Steven Spielberg's Second World War drama Band of Brothers has lost its primetime BBC1 slot in a schedule change. It was not considered mainstream enough for primetime broadcast and will appear instead on BBC2. The show was directed by Spielberg and actor Tom Hanks. Its �7million price tag makes it the most expensive programme ever bought by the BBC. BBC1 controller Lorraine Heggessey told the Media Guardian: "It's a fantastic, quality piece of drama. "It looks like a movie. But I didn't think it was broad enough for a mainstream audience." The BBC bought the series before Heggessey took control, but their decision to play down the drama coupled with its high price tag could spark controversy. *shaking head*

Here's the full article from the Media Guardian: http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,536820,00.html But do click on this for the Guardian's suggestions for alternative ways to spend the �7million (especially #2): http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,536934,00.html

Interesting that this week the Guardian reckons 7 million = 7 hours of P+P when an article last week about the return of Only Fools and Horses quoted P+P as costing 750,000 quid an hour ... maybe they could use some of it to film some of the "sequels" in fanfic *ROFL*

maybe they could use some of it to film some of the "sequels" in fanfic *ROFL* Yes, they'd be more costly to film. Think of all the ripped shirts and laundry expense! ;-) Another Colin mention in The Times yesterday: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,622-2001281173,00.html

Speaking of Fever Pitch, Empire has an item (from the Mirror) about the American remake of the film Yes, and they've totally fabricated Nick Hornby's reaction; we know the truth because people here heard it. Shades of Helen Fielding being allegedly miffed over BJD casting. :-( Another Colin mention in The Times yesterday More inaccuracy--wot's that nonsense about his name being tiny on the BJ posters here? He had higher billing than in the UK! I can't get over how they just make this stuff up. While I'm in a good mood ;-), I may as well weigh in on the P&P DVD cover. While I'll happily display it next to my boxed video set . . . this isn't right. It's all about marketing; A&E knows it'll sell more this way. He was wonderful, but it's Jennifer's show all the way. To see her relegated to the background with Jane . . . ridiculous. If the Lizzie portrayal isn't right, the whole show goes down the tubes. I expected better from A&E. On a brighter note, Apartment Zero will be on Starz this Thursday evening, 10 p.m.

So where do we send our suggestions for which Fan Fic story to be filmed first, with the excess 7 million quid ? I'm going to nominate that story about Arabella's conception, when Darcy and Lizzie...er...."do it" half way up a tree. I'm not slighting the works of our other talened authors, really I'm not It's just that the Beeb wouldn't exactly have to cough up mega bucks for sets, now would they ? Safety nets and bug spray are far cheaper than hiring out stately homes as locations. I have also read quite a bit about British ire, that recent World War 2 movies focus more on American participation in the war, than that of the British. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was a factor, in the Beeb giving it a less prestigious time slot. While Saving Private Ryan was a fabulous movie, I know some British Veterans Association's noses were a little out of joint at the plot which they felt implied the American involvemnt in D Day was more important than theirs was. I never got that impression from Saving Private Ryan, but then again I didn't risk my life 56 years ago on the beaches of Normandy....so what do I know ?

Not to minimize the incredible English effort in fighting the Axis powers (fairly single-handedly for many years) and enduring the bombings, Saving Private Ryan was strictly about the landing at Omaha Beach. You guys landed on another beach, where they weren't slaughtered. This movie isn't about anybody winning an entire war. It's about a senseless little mission to find one little guy. Please, let's not overblow this one. As I read in one of your newspapers some time ago, if you want to showcase your history, then you're going to have to make the movies. Don't blame us if we concentrate on American contributions. Just look at the project Russell Crowe is going to direct. It too is WWII, but about an Aussie unit. My whole point was: you don't get more mainstream than Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks. It's not possible. Lorraine just tossed your money away.

But do click on this for the Guardian's suggestions for alternative ways to spend the �7million (especially #2) I'll second #2 (as long as extra P&P2 scenes involve ODB), and if I may, I'll cast yet another vote for #6. I just love Jack Frost.

Sorry Karen, I didn't mean to imply that that I wanted to stir up the WW2 controversy, mentioned in the Guardian article. I just remember reading/hearing a fair bit about it, over the past year or so, thats all. I have no feelings on the matter myself. The county I come from, didn't even fight in WW2 so I'm not really informed enough to have an opinion, one way or another.

I agree about SPR - great film, and never intended to portray the entire Allied effort. (There were three British beaches, btw, and a fair number of casualties on them, including my own grandfather.) People get pissed off not so much with ommissions as with clear fabrication - (U-571, the Patriot, etc.) Of course, for inventiveness, nothing beats Fleet St. - the exaggeration of NH's reaction should come as no surprise. As a three-year visitor at Fenway, I am looking forward to the film. (With due apologies to both, there is definitely a similarity between the moaning of the Arsenal and BoSox fans.) As for JE, I freely admit that my objection to her relegation on A&E's cover had nothing to do with art.

No need to apologize, Beth. I probably shouldn't have gotten on my soapbox. (Ben) People get pissed off not so much with ommissions as with clear fabrication - (U-571, the Patriot, etc.) Quite. I don't condone messing around with the facts. Again, I don't wish to minimize or trivialize the British effort, except that the Germans were there to meet the US landing at Omaha in great strength and covered the other beaches where they thought the landing might occur to a lesser degree. (Ben) nothing beats Fleet St. - the exaggeration of NH's reaction And I thought you guys understood irony. ;-)

What price CF? �7m for seven hours means a million an hour for P&P. Colin on screen for, say, one third of the time? That's 50G per Colin-minute. It SEEMS a lot. But wait! Let's give it a worldwide audience of 20 million (does someone have a more accurate figure?), each of whom (judging by present company) has seen it at least twice, on average. That works out at less than 0.2 cents per Colin-minute per woman. I call that a good deal.

Two years and three months of free biscuits and tea for everyone at the BBC Heehee. Brain food. (Karen) My whole point was: you don't get more mainstream than Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks. It's not possible. Lorraine just tossed your money away. After seeing HBO's (somewhat melodramatic, IMO) promo, Band of Brothers strikes me as 'SPR II.' So I see your point, Beth. I agree with Karen that the Beeb should have considered the issue of mainstream-ness before they signed the cheque for 7M.

Here's what I don't understand about the Band of Brothers/BBC "controversy": Doesn't the same audience who gets BBC1 also get BBC2? In other words, doesn't it have the potential to reach the same number of people? Regardless, the series cost $80 million to produce. Presumably, a fair chunk of that was plowed into the local English economy, in terms of acting jobs, crew, craftspeople, location access fees, lodging, meals, transportation, etc. Surely much more than 7 million worth. So, it's gone out of one pocket but right back into the other. Seems like good business--and good public policy--to me, no matter what channel eventually shows it.

Had my date with Paul this morning on HBO Signature (wish the blonde with the shrill voice didn't show up too ;-)). *sigh*

Mari, the same audience get BBC 1 and 2 - everyone gets it - but traditionally, BBC1 is regarded as the populist mainstream channel and BBC2 is for the arts, and less obviously mainstream stuff. This whole BBC/HBO business is extremely annoying when the BBC can't even say when they'll screen things they co-produced!! as discussed earlier, why do we pay our licence fee? *rant*

(Karen)BTW, are people aware that Fever Pitch is being shown on HBO late Tuesday/early Wednesday morning. Colin's films are finally making it to our television. Unfortunately, the TV Guide (the real one, not newspaper supplement) showed the film as starring Luke Aikman and Beatrice Guard. Was that the mother?????? In a bizarre coincidence (or not), FP will be showing next Tuesday on the Canadian Showcase channel. The TV Guide description sounds the same as yours; i.e. no mention of CF. And one of our movie channels (CEN) starts running RV next week. Maybe I'm on a roll and they'll actually show something I haven't seen! Conspiracy hasn't made it here yet.

BBC had been led to believe there would be much more to which a British audience could relate. It will now go on a more culturally elitist channel (BBC 2) It will still be shown.

Thanks for the clarification on the Beebs, Rachael. As for Conspiracy, my guess is they'll schedule it soon after the Emmy Awards; if it does well in the Emmys, then that's an extra "hook" for reporters/critics to put into their articles i.e., "the award-winning film, Conspiracy." Miss Teryman/Mister Eman) BBC had been led to believe By whom? The book by Stephen Ambrose on which the series is closely based was published almost 10 years ago. I can't see how there could be any confusion about its content. Anyway, my original point was actually to cut the BBC some slack as I felt that the press carping was unjustified. But, I know things often look differently to outsiders.

Mari, the same audience get BBC 1 and 2 - everyone gets it - but traditionally, BBC1 is regarded as the populist mainstream channel and BBC2 is for the arts, and less obviously mainstream stuff. This whole BBC/HBO business is extremely annoying when the BBC can't even say when they'll screen things they co-produced!! as discussed earlier, why do we pay our licence fee? *rant*

oops!! sorry, don't know how I did that twice!

BBC had been led to believe (Mari) By whom? By the same person who kept DQ on the shelf, but of course. *snort* (Rachael) BBC1 is regarded as the populist mainstream channel and BBC2 is for the arts, and less obviously mainstream stuff. Thanks for the clarification. So BBC2 is where you'd go to watch reruns of "I Love Lucy," right?

Bryonny: Are you in Canada? Cause I was curious about the channel you mentioned (CEN) playing Relative Values. I haven't seen it yet! :-(

(Mari) Miss Teryman/Mister Eman LOL! Ah, but MysteryMan sees all, knows all. *snort* (Rachael) the same audience get BBC 1 and 2 What's the difference in viewership? Just curious--I want to be prepared when I hear that Conspiracy will air on BBC2. ;-)

Well, I'll say this for MysteryMan, at least he/she can write a graceful sentence without ending it with a preposition.

It never don't make no difference to me;-)

Ooh, my favorite Churchill quote, re ending sentences with a preposition: "A pedantry up with which I will not put." Um, Band of Brothers. I'm actually frightened that someone thought that filming a Stephen Ambrose book was a good idea. God bless him, but after a while you feel bludgeoned by his point of view, even with the books.

Rebecca: Yes, I'm in Western Canada and CEN is one of the cable movie channels not on basic cable. I don't know if the East is different. All the vid stores here have RV however, so I've rented it. And if you happened to copy only the CF scenes, by the way, which I'm sure I'd never do, it only takes 30 minutes of space!

(Evelyn) It never don't make no difference to me ;-) Me neither. *sniff* Though I abhor dangling gerunds. *sticking my nose in the air* Wish there was CF news.

Eileen the top rated programmes on BBC1 (soaps, big football matches, big comedies) will get between 12-14 million viewers, a major one off event might get 18 million viewers; the top stuff on BBC2 will get around 4-5 million, but most BBC2 programmes will be less than this

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Reads frantically thru all archived posts to check my grammer.....ack, ack, ack, don't like what I see.

Correct me if I am wrong. Hamlet was cancelled because it "conflicted with Mr. Firth's filming schedule." I know you ladies to be crack detectives (among your many other talents), yet we know nothing of any filming with which to conflict. My obsession is in need of food.

Just caught Apartment Zero on Starz East. I can't believe TV Now didn't even mention it. Can it be that Starz changed their schedule from that originally planned due to CF's popularity? Maybe they have been deluged with e-mails demanding more movies starring Colin Firth. And only a couple of weeks to go until Londinium. It's good to be a cable subscriber (with multiplex) right now. ODB was so adorable in AZ. You just wanted to cuddle him when his mum died. Except he would have probably climbed straight up the wall if you tried, due to his particular neuroses. What a performance. "If that's a mask. . ." Sigh.

I watched it last night also, Louise. It's among my Firth faves. And isn't this timely--an interview I've never seen before from '89, in which CF talks about it. Many thanks to Lisa, who sleuthed this one out. Enjoy!:-) ACTOR ON THE RUN: FROM `VALMONT' TO `APARTMENT ZERO' -- COLIN FIRTH'S EFFORTS INCLUDE A VERSION OF `DANGEROUS LIAISONS' (BY) JOHN HARTL 09/10/1989 The Seattle Times Can Colin Firth be ``a sexier bad guy'' than John Malkovich? According to this month's Premiere magazine, that's what it will take if Milos Forman's ``Valmont,'' the latest and most expensive film version of ``Dangerous Liaisons,'' hopes to match or top the success of last year's Oscar-winning adaptation of the story. Firth plays the title role - the Malkovich part - in the $36 million production, which opens in mid-November. To many moviegoers, Malkovich was the chief problem with last year's version, and the success or failure of the Forman film will most likely rest on the actor playing Valmont. ``Milos' version is going to be incredibly different,'' said the 28-year-old Firth during a trip to Seattle this week. ``The characters have the same names, the story is still about sexual manipulation, but that leaves room for a lot of differences. ``Our emphasis is not on overtly decadent behavior. `Valmont' has more to do with what it is that works when you manipulate someone. There are hearts beating inside these characters, and you should leave the theater with questions about Valmont's true feelings. If you're not convinced that he can persuade this woman that she's changed him, if that doesn't work, the audience will laugh.'' While Firth is gearing up for the publicity push that will inevitably surround the release of ``Valmont,'' he was actually in town to talk about another movie: Martin Donovan's extraordinary thriller, ``Apartment Zero,'' which opens Friday at the Egyptian. At the Seattle International Film Festival three months ago, it won the audience awards for best picture and director. Firth plays the very un-Valmontlike part of a repressed, neurotic Buenos Aires film buff named Adrian, who is so obsessed with movies that he declares at one point that he can't be friends with anyone who's never heard of Geraldine Page. When Adrian takes in an American roommate of questionable background (Hart Bochner), their relationship and the film start to function on increasingly complicated psychological-political levels. ``Adrian's only reference point is film,'' said Firth. ``He only understands film language. When Jack (the Bochner character) turns up, it's as if he'd just stepped off the screen and into Adrian's life. Adrian is such a pitiful creature, so transparent; he sees himself as a David Niven character, the perfect English gentleman, but he's really quite pathetic.'' Firth based his characterization on a couple of people he knows, and a ``precious, brittle movie-obsessive'' he once observed at a British art house. He thinks the character's speech patterns ``come out of constipation''; during the shooting of the film, he and Donovan decided to include several scenes in which Adrian talks to himself, once in Spanish. ``I think I gave Adrian a certain neurotic fastidiousness that is not in the script, but Hart had the more difficult job,'' he said. ``He had to appear to be a boring fellow, and it's tough to play that kind of superficially easygoing character. He was very intense about getting it right. I know very few English actors who ever take the job as seriously as Hart did.'' During the three months he stayed in Buenos Aires, Firth became increasingly aware of the political focus of the script, which makes frequent references to the recent repressiveness of the Argentine government. ``Just five years ago, they were scooping people up off the street,'' he said. ``I loved the country, which has such an air of sophistication that you can't see why they're repeatedly susceptible to fascism. But it's a very badly damaged place.'' When he returned to England, he was so concerned that he joined Amnesty International. Born in Hampshire, Firth spent some of his youth in Nigeria and St. Louis before returning to England, where he joined the National Youth Theatre and moved on to the Drama Centre. After playing the lead character, Guy Bennett, in the London stage production of ``Another Country,'' Firth made his movie debut playing Guy's communist friend, Judd, in the 1984 film version. ``I still get the bulk of my fan mail because of that picture, especially from Japan, where there's a cult for it,'' he said. Firth has also starred in the excellent ``A Month in the Country,'' the best-forgotten 1984 American TV remake of ``Camille,'' and several British television series, including ``The Lost Empires,'' which was shown here on Masterpiece Theatre. He's just finished another picture, ``Wings of Fame,'' in which he plays the assassin of a movie star played by Peter O'Toole. Most of the picture takes place in the afterlife, at a posh hotel that houses only celebrities who are still famous. Firth ends up there only because he's famous for killing a movie star. ``I begged them to put me in that movie,'' he said. ``I'd never seen a script like it. There are no real effects, no `Beetlejuice' makeup, and it's much murkier and less obvious than that picture. But I think it's quite extraordinary. ``I don't know what to do next,'' said Firth, who was so bored with ``The Lost Empires'' that he dropped out of acting for a few months after he'd finished it. ``I really need to stop. I'm always working on the next picture even if I'm not actually shooting it. I have to find out if there is a life between movies.''

To many moviegoers, Malkovich was the chief problem with last year's version Hmmm, I thought everyone considered Malkovich's performance wonderful. Oh, I see he said moviegoers, not critics. ;-) (CF) you should leave the theater with questions about Valmont's true feelings. Haven't we argued this one numerous times? (CF on WoF) "I begged them to put me in that movie," he said. "I'd never seen a script like it. There are no real effects, no `Beetlejuice' makeup, and it's much murkier and less obvious than that picture. But I think it's quite extraordinary. Don't we know that? ;-) "I really need to stop. I'm always working on the next picture even if I'm not actually shooting it. I have to find out if there is a life between movies." He has.

Thanks, Mari, for posting the article from Lisa. Loved it.

CF on WoF)``I begged them to put me in that movie,'' he said. ``I'd never seen a script like it. There are no real effects, no `Beetlejuice' makeup, and it's much murkier and less obvious than that picture. But I think it's quite extraordinary. VERY extraordinary! I enjoyed our discussion of WoF. I wish we could ask Colin about some of the interpretations we kicked around. Thanks for finding that article, Mari. I loved his comment about "life between movies." So, OK, Colin, you've had some "in between" life. Now, tell us what you're doing NEXT!!!!!!!!

Thanks, Lisa and Mari. I love reading new comments about old projects. Firth based his characterization on a couple of people he knows He's used this several times, most recently about Mark Darcy. He thinks the character's speech patterns ``come out of constipation'' Heehee! Am sure Moon will enjoy that. ;-) "I really need to stop. I'm always working on the next picture even if I'm not actually shooting it. I have to find out if there is a life between movies." (Karen) He has. And how!

Thank you Mari and Lisa.I don't think we had those quotes when we discussed those films. Too bad the interviewer didn't think to ask him to decipher the mystery of Bianca;-: (CF interview)"`Our emphasis is not on overtly decadent behavior' " Whoa....Valmont and Cecile was pretty pervy ;-)

Whoa....Valmont and Cecile was pretty pervy ;-) Through today's eyes. Cecile was getting married to the much-older (than Valmont) Gercourt a short while.

This is from the E!Online site, Marilyn Beck's column. I was waiting for this.. As Jack Frost, I wish he would nip at my nose....;-P Dear Marilyn: What can you tell me about Colin Firth? Is he married? Any new projects coming up? Jessica, Boston Dear Jessica: The six-foot-one, 40-year-old actor hails from Hampshire, England, and is married to Livia Giuggioli, a production assistant he met in 1996 on the set of the BBC drama Nostromo. They have a son, Luca, born in March. (He has another son, William, 10, with actress Meg Tilly). Firth's passion for drama started early. As a kid, he played Jack Frost in a Christmas pantomime. He joined a drama workshop at age 10 and, by 14, had decided on acting as a profession. In 1980, he was accepted at London's prestigious Drama Centre, where a casting agent caught him in a production of Hamlet and recommended him as a replacement for Rupert Everett in the Queen's Theatre production of Another Country. Firth went on to star in the 1984 film version and hasn't stopped working since. His films include The English Patient, Valmont, Shakespeare in Love and Bridget Jones's Diary. The Mark Darcy character he plays in the latter film was inspired by Firth's turn as the dashing Mr. Darcy in the popular BBC miniseries Pride and Prejudice. His latest project is a big-screen version of The Importance of Being Earnest, with Rupert Everett, Judi Dench and Reese Witherspoon.

(E)Whoa....Valmont and Cecile was pretty pervy ;-) (Karen)Through today's eyes. Cecile was getting married to the much-older (than Valmont) Gercourt a short while. The *former* was pervy....the latter was disgusting. Cecile and Danceny was "mainstream";-)

(Marilyn Beck)As a kid, he played Jack Frost in a Christmas pantomime. Perhaps that's where he got the snowman tie?????????????????? Becka, I wish you hadn't made that remark about Jack Frost nippin' at your nose. Now I'll have that Christmas Song stuck in my head for a week.

Whoa....Valmont and Cecile was pretty pervy ;-) } And that scene was even edited from the original theatrical release. Bravo altered that scene too when they showed it, but AMC's alterations were more subtle.

(E)Whoa....Valmont and Cecile was pretty pervy ;-) } (Ann)And that scene was even edited from the original theatrical release. You mean there's *more* than what was on the video?Like TA vs. THOTP? WOW. BTW, the scene was consensual ( not exactly a rape).I'm not a big prude here...hey, I'm the guy lighting candles that they next film he makes is "R" rated;-)

(Evelyn)I'm the guy lighting candles that they next film he makes is "R" rated;-) Lighting candles for an R-rated movie? I can sense the fierce Sister Margaret (Sunday School teacher) turning over in her grave!!!! Ann, as you appear to be our resident expert on *that* scene in Valmont, did Bravo and AMC show less than the tape does?

You mean there's *more* than what was on the video? } Both AMC and Bravo altered that scene (differently). As far as I know the commercial tape is the original version. I'm one of the very few people who saw V in a theater when it first came out, and only saw the icky DL a couple years ago on tape.

(Evelyn)I'm the guy lighting candles that they next film he makes is "R" rated;-) Lighting candles for an R-rated movie? I can sense the fierce Sister Margaret (Sunday School teacher) turning over in her grave!!!! *blowing out candles* In deference to the good Sister;-) How about joss sticks;-) And I don't mean Londinium...although any film about ED is bound to be;-) I hear that Cinemax is running an ad on Londinium.As part of a Max Binder (pardon the expression)series? Anybody see it?

OK, Teenage Fanclub may not be performing, but I'd say it had possibilities... Stars line up for asylum seeker concert Top actors are teaming up with musicians from the world of classical music for a concert supporting asylum seekers and refugees. Emma Thompson and Michael Palin will take part in the event at London's Royal Festival Hall on November 19. The stars of Truly, Madly, Deeply - Alan Rickman and Juliet Stevenson - will also be reunited for the night. The concert was put forward by human rights charities the Medical Foundation for the Care of Victims of Torture and the Prisoners of Conscience Appeals Fund. Ms Stevenson is directing a segment of the gala, while the second half will feature the London premiere of a choral work by composer Richard Blackford. Bournemouth Symphony Chorus commissioned the work and will perform accompanied by a 20-piece ensemble from Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra, including soloists Robert Tear and Paul Whelan. Others taking part include actress Fiona Shaw, comedian Jeremy Hardy and poet Tony Harrison.

There is a short BJD interview with ODB in the Swiss Sonntagszeitung. It is in German, but if someone would like to translate it, I could type and e-mail it (I am not very good at translating).

OK, it wasn't too difficult to find the Sonntagszeitung article online, as a pic of BJ is on the front page. The CF interview doesn't look too long (no pic), so if you can, Nita (or Renate or Carola or Teresa or our many lurking Germans), here's the link to the interview: http://www.sonntagszeitung.ch/sz/szFeinRubrik.html?ArtId=117440&rubrikid=116&ausgabeid=1630 and the general BJD article: http://www.sonntagszeitung.ch/sz/szFeinRubrik.html?ArtId=117438&ausgabeid=1630&rubrikid=116

Cinemax has the September schedule up for Londinium (thanks to Diana for spotting): Title: LONDINIUM Rating Minutes Color Sound Genre TVMA 87 Color Dolby Surround Sound Romance, Comedy Advisories: Adult Content, Adult Language, Brief Nudity Cast: MIKE BINDER, IRENE JACOB, COLIN FIRTH, MARIEL HEMINGWAY, CHRISTOPHER LAWFORD, STEPHEN FRY Description: This breezy romantic comedy traces the romantic ups and downs of two couples involved in the London television world. Very British Allen produces a sitcom for his American actress wife Carly. American Ben, a Seinfeld-bred writer for the show, meets French makeup artist Fiona on the set. Ben and Fiona fall in love just as Allen and Carly are losing interest in each other...but nothing is as simple as it seems. With Mike Binder (HBO's The Mind of the Married Man), Irene Jacob (Othello), Colin Firth (Bridget Jones's Diary), Mariel Hemingway (The Contender). All Showings, All Channels Date Time Channel Sun, Sep 2 10:00 pm MAX East Sun, Sep 2 1:00 am MAX West Wed, Sep 5 8:30 pm MAX East Wed, Sep 5 11:30 pm MAX West Thu, Sep 13 10:00 am MAX East Thu, Sep 13 1:00 pm MAX West Tue, Sep 18 3:00 pm MAX East Tue, Sep 18 6:00 pm MAX West Mon, Sep 24 4:45 pm MAX East Mon, Sep 24 7:45 pm MAX West Sat, Sep 29 1:00 pm MAX East Sat, Sep 29 4:00 pm MAX West

Brief Nudity Our luck, it would be Stephen Fry. ;-)

"Brief Nudity " (K)Our luck, it would be Stephen Fry. ;-) No he's the psychologist. *Putting up the joss sticks;-)* Thank Mari and Diana.I can't wait....

I have started to translate the SonntagsZeitung interview, but have to go now, sorry. Hope I can do it tonight.

*Putting up the joss sticks;-)* Based on TSM, it wouldn't be Mariel or MB (shorts only). My bet is Irene Jacob, probably in a scene with MB. Argh :-(

Candles ? Joss sticks ? Sheesh, I'm going out now to find a chicken to saccrafice. Now if only I could find my voodoo handbook ? O well, I suppose one the spells from one of my nieces Harry Potter books will do.

Here's the translation - forgive me if it is buggy, my favourite proof reader hasn't seen it yet ;-). I can do that look in my sleep Colin Firth about his role as Mark Darcy SZ: Colin Firth, you were Mr. Darcy in the TV film of Pride & Predjudice, now you are Mark Darcy in Bridget Jones. Aren't you fed up with that role? CF: No, because Darcy is not really important in my life. Except when talking with [to?] journalists. SZ: And the female fans... CF: I rarely meet the fans. And my friends don't call me Mr. Darcy. Only the press is bothering [expr? transl = punching] me with always the same questions about this role. SZ: If you are rehearsing the dark Darcy-look in the mirror? CF: Yes, in that style. SZ: And, do you rehearse it? CF: Come on! Not at all. I know that look by heart, I don't need to rehearse it. It's boring. SZ: And still, you have accepted the role of the brooding Mark Darcy in BJD? CF: Yes, because I liked to spoof my Mark Darcy popularity. SZ: It sounds almost as if it is bothering [irritating] you. CF: I have to admit that up to now I don't understand what it is based on. As a preparation to BJD, I have rewatched all episodes of P&P. SZ: And? CF: It is ok. The series is a tidy [clean] piece of tv. Nothing more, and nothing less. I don't get it why some women are so obsessed about it. SZ: You are playing a girl's dream without understanding what makes the girls drool? CF: That's the material point. You can't play other people's dreams. You can only play somebody who you can relate to yourself. That is why I originally refused the Mr. Darcy role. SZ: And then accepted nevertheless. Why? CF: Because one day I discovered something in myself that helped me understanding this man. SZ: What? CF: I cannot explain. It is very personal. It has something to do with my own fears. SZ: Was the contemporary Darcy in BJD easier to understand than Jane Austens aristocrat of the 18th century? CF: Not necessarily. In a leatherjacket, that looks exactly like my own, it is more difficult to feel like a different person. In an eighteenth century costume and high on a horse it just happens [by itself]. Interview: Ewa Hess

LOL, I love it " no need to rehearse THE LOOK. I know it by heart " O so do we Col, so do we....slobbers all over keyboard. And belive me babe, we don't find it boring, far from it.

"CF: I have to admit that up to now I don't understand what it is based on. As a preparation to BJD, I have rewatched all episodes of P&P. SZ: And? CF: It is ok. The series is a tidy [clean] piece of tv. Nothing more, and nothing less. I don't get it why some women are so obsessed about it." Hey, pal...USA Today called it "The Triumph of Television", whether you like it or not. Get over it.

ODB sounds grumpy in that interview. Perhaps Luca is teething and keeping them up at night?

Thanks, Renate, for the translation. Only the press continually bothers me with the same questions about this role. Doesn't this pretty much sum it up and the entire interview? I mean, really, how many times is the name Darcy mentioned? Poor guy. He really should stick to US-based journalists who don't give two hoots about P&P.

ODB sounds grumpy in that interview. Remember, this is the translation of a translation. The original answers may have been quite a bit different.

(CF)I don't get it why some women are so obsessed about it. What? Don't you have any mirrors in your house, Colin? He does sound cranky. But it could have been worse. At least the interviewer didn't ask him about the wet shirt!

Psst, Colin. If you're promoting a movie in which you play a character named Darcy, who is based on another character you played named Darcy, then the press is going to ask you questions about . . . wait for it . . . Darcy! P&P and now BJD are how the general public knows you. Be gracious. And if it annoys you so much, let's see you go after the roles that have the potential to eclipse Darcy in the public's mind.

I recall CF giving similar responses to similar questions way back when BJD publicity was gearing up and articles were starting to come out (March?). I wonder if this interview was actually conducted at that time and is just coming out now.

This interview seems different, though. In the ones he did around the time of BJD's US opening, he had a sense of humor about the whole Darcy thing. Of course he was on a general high at the time because of the new baby. To be fair, I can see how he must be tired of the same questions about Darcy. To Colin, even BJD must feel like old news. Since then, Conspiracy has been on and he's been nominated for an Emmy (for work that he feels is more 'valuable' than what he did in BJD). He has finished work on TIOBE. But everyone is still talking about Darcy. Mari's suggestion of a role that can eclipse Darcy is a good one. But Darcy will probably never go away entirely. If people remember other good things he's done, Colin should be able to deal with Darcy being forever a part of his credits list.

As Nita mentioned, don't base your opinion on this re-translated translation! We don't even know if and how much the original interview was edited, and if the translation hit the tone in the first place. And my translation... it is difficult enough to hit the right words or phrases, let alone the right tone. Further, in the german-language countries - and I think in whole continental Europe - Colin's name is almost unknown, except for a handful of fans we know by name. Oh, I almost forgot: there must be also an unknown number of women who have seen P&P, when it was aired at 9.03 in the mornings. ;-) We've been to the BJD preview, and there was, in a packed theatre, definitely! an audible collective sigh at Colin's first closeup. I conclude, there must be a huge group of secret fans. Almost all BJD reviews (it is to open in Germany on Aug. 23) write about RZ and HG, but Colin is hardly ever mentioned except for his also being in the film. BTW, the reviews are all very good. No Colin-relevant information yet in German press.

Darcy is the only starring role he's done worth writng about.It created a craze in his home country. What does he expect? They're not going to ask him about Matthew Fields, Peter Marshmallow, or, godferbid, the Beared One in Nostromo. Thanks Renate for taking the time to type this up.

I like "the bearded one in Nostromo" those legs, those boots, phew *thud* oops tumbled over :-) but I think Mari's spot on - he must've known what was going to happen with BJD and earlier interviews did seem to have more humour about them. Fingers crossed he's been reading some good scripts over the summer. If not we should have a fanfic conference and write one for him ;-)

I'm with Nita and Renate, lets not accuse him of churlishness regarding the Darcy thang, when the interview is a translation. It can be hard for humour and irony to come across in a translated version. The interviewer may not have even known who CF and was just asking the same tired old questions, that he knew to ask from reading the bio, and got a tired response from Col as a result. I must confess to having a soft spot for Nostromo ( covers face in shame ). I don't know if its the mine scene or the boots......sigh... How stooooopid he looks on those ridculous, runty little horses, almost obliterates the good bits, but not quite.

(Beth)I must confess to having a soft spot for Nostromo ( covers face in shame ). No need to do that....I'm one of three people on this board who likes Camille.... (No coughing from the gallery. You see how well I know all of you;-) Let's just say Colin had a "bad hair day."

(Kate) In the ones he did around the time of BJD's US opening, he had a sense of humor about the whole Darcy thing. You're right. I was thinking about a time just a week or two earlier, at the start of the BJD press onslaught. Have checked Karen's article archive (v. useful page ;-))at the Bucket; this is what I'm talking about: From the Guardian, March 31, 2001 Twice Shy, by Susie Steiner Colin Firth says everything is all right. Really, it's fine�as if someone just bumped the back of his Volkswagen. "I don't mind it at all." He's talking a bit like Gareth Southgate does when the subject of penalties crops up. "I think I've been saying all the time: 'It's all right. It's fine.' How convincing can you be when you say, 'I'm not het up'?" The thing Firth is fine about (so we can all stop feeling guilty) is being a Sex God. He doesn't mind the tight breeches thing, or having to talk in detail about That Pond Scene for the past six years, or knowing that millions of women fantasise about the way his wet shirt clung to his chest, or the way his bushy sideburns fluttered outside Pemberley. "If I spent 20 years training to be an astronaut, the headlines would still say Darcy Lands On Mars!," he says, laughing. But, to be honest, he looks pissed off. And another: from Film Review, May, 2001 Love at Firth Sight, by Anwar Brett /.../ "In a way I think I should just say, 'Okay, I hate talking about it'," he sighs. "But I never do have to talk about it unless a journalist is asking me those sort of questions. It is one of those things where my actual life has nothing to do with this subject. People I know just don�t bring it up, and it never encroaches on my everyday life. "It's only when I get into a room with a journalist that they'll say, 'you really hate this don't you? You want to shake it off?' But I don't. It doesn't do anything for me one way or the other, so it's fine. But I'll still read that 'Colin Firth is still trying to shakeoff Darcy' and this only perpetuates it." *** See what I mean? I also recall we had exactly the same reaction as we're having now. Ooh, it's like deja vu all over again.

he had a bad hair day in Camille? what's done to his hair makes a big difference, I think - look at him in TEP, where its tamed and parted - he looks very young (as Geoffrey was), much younger than All-mushy when in fact CF is older than RF. also he had a parting in Nostromo and his hair looked as if it had blondish streaks - effect of the sun? compare with "Woolly and Wild" in Fever Pitch ;-)

(Evelyn) I'm one of three people on this board who likes Camille.... There's three of you? ;-D No coughing from the gallery Harharheehee! A Camille 'in-joke.' *cough*

Good finds, Eileen. Those old interview bits look like they've been reworked into this interview. Agreed, the problem is one of language. *coughing and clutching camellias to chest* ;-)

LOL. Rachael, the bad hair day had to do with the interview. Sorry, I forgot the winkie ;-)) Evelyn) I'm one of three people on this board who likes Camille.... (Eileen)There's three of you? ;-D Yeah...wise guy;-) Moon and Nan...so there;-) evelyn who keeps trying to recruit new members in the Camille club...with no luck :-(( BTW Wonder what The Divine One feels about Armand. We know he doesn't like Ross and SLOW.

(Evelyn) Wonder what The Divine One feels about Armand. Are you referring to MysteryMan? ;-)

(K)Are you referring to Mystery Man? ;-) ROTF. "Person", pl...let's not get sexist here;-D

I have never even seen Camille ( am getting a stiff neck from constant hanging head in shame ) However if ODB wears frilly white shirts and breechs in it ( and I'm thinking he would, if its a period piece ). I'm gonna move heaven and earth to finds a Blockbuster that rents it. So Evelyn may just have herself a 4th member of the Camille fan club.... na na na na na

Beth, Colin looks absolutely gorgeous in Camille, very young and willowy, worth to have a look. ;-) Perhaps it helps if you turn off the sound: the music is awful, as are some performances of his costars. Greta Scacchi was ridiculously miscast.

I haven't seen "Cecile", though I refuse to hang my head in shame for that. How is it pervy? Talking of which, it is rather jarring to switch (as I confess I have been, half hanging my head in shame) between Fantasy Darcy stories on this website, and Fantasy Archers stories on the Radio 4 message board. Just substitute Lynda and Robert Snell for Elizabeth and Darcy and you'll see what I mean (with apologies to the vast majority of you who don't listen to the Archers.) They probably share some of the same authors, which just goes to show how flexible the human imagination is. BTW, when are we going to get to see Conspiracy over here? Does anyone know?

Can't remember any *frilly* shirts but here's the book cover: Plus there are some fun little bits: But mainly, many of us tend to have this scene etched in our brains... BIG SPOILER!!! LOOK AT OWN RISK!!!

Ooh, goody, the scene where the makeup crew resorts to using White Out. I'd watch it before you na na na anyone, Beth. *cough* ;-) Which are you talking about, Ben, Valmont or Camille? We're multitasking our discussions today.

Yes, that ghostly White Out pallor. ;-) *cough cough* And that music (la duh duh da, la duh duh da--up an octave--la duh duh da, la duh duh da) is really the pits.

Thank you boss...for *all* the pics. He looks adorable; big head of light brown hair.Tight breeches, yeah, yeah. Filmed in 1984 for Hallmark Hall of Fame TV , Gretta Scacchi was 18 years younger and 25 pounds thinner than she is now. Marguerite was supposed to be older than Armand.It's a sweet love story.Heavy cast... John Gielgud plays the a Duke and Ben Kingsley plays Duval, the dad . Beautiful Paris & french countryside scenery. Gorgeous costumes. And I cried at the end. Don't know about Blockbuster stocking it, but for a little more amazon or reel.com was running a special a year ago. Romance Cable Channel shows it about once a year And that music.. Alright...so don't get the soundtrack;-)

oh my goodness, what a wee boy! doesn't he look young? I'm with Beth on this one, never seen it but wouldn't mind. Local video shop has 5 films for 5 nights for a fiver so I have SLOW from now til Saturday wooo hoooo; but then again, why don't they just sell it to me??? hello Ben, enjoyed reading your posts on the old boards, interested to see your post the other day re Hamlet - I saw SRB in July and have tix for Sam West in Stratford in a couple of weeks. Methinks CF made the right decision, i.e. there are too many Hamlets around and SRB and SW are getting top class rave reviews. but Linda and Robert Snell as L+D??? oh Ben *sigh* you've gone down in my estimation ;-)

Well, I don't dislike Camille generally, but I have a problem with Greta. She ruined practically every other scene with Colin - and the dying scene in particular - am surprised ODB didn't lose his patience and slap her in the end. Too much of a gentleman, as always, and not yet sufficiently experienced as a professional actor at that point. He was doing his best to act sort of "around her", bless him, but she just carried on as if he hadn't been there at all... So much for an illusion of a great romance... But I do like Colin in Camille. Don't know if it's enough to be admitted to the Camille club, though.

Poor Greta is toast at this point in time and Colin is on a roll....she had her moment in Camille.(Actually she had her Big Moment with Harrison Ford in "Presumed Innocent" ..on the desk....WOW...a steamer.)

Isn't Greta the one who is married to/living with/making babies with her first cousin? Ew. :-( I know we've had some wishful thinking here about "Beyond Borders" and how it would be right up CF's alley as a strong dramatic role of social relevance. Saw this bit on the Jolie connection, so I can see why she's signed on: Angelina Jolie is to become a goodwill ambassador for the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. To prepare for her new role she is visiting Pakistan to see refugee camps housing thousands of people who have fled the Taliban regime in Afghanistan. Angelina said: "I'm going there to learn a bit more about the situation. I've already been to Sierra Leone and Cambodia with the UNHCR. "I'm just learning a lot about refugee situations around the world before I'm made goodwill ambassador." The star donated almost �700,000 to the UNHCR from her Tomb Raider earnings after visiting Sierra Leone earlier this year.

(Eileen)Ooh, goody, the scene where the makeup crew resorts to using White Out. I think they also used white-out to gray his hair for the scene at the end, when he's supposed to be older. Much as I love Colin, if you want to see Camille, I'd recommend the really old B&W version with Robert Taylor and Greta Garbo. (But then, I was brainwashed by my mother, for whom Robert Taylor was a huge hearthrob.)

Conspiracy is finally being shown in Canada. It will air on September 8 - goodie!!

....and it will be shown on TMN (The Movie Network), which seems to get HBO movies at a snail's pace!

So do I rent Camille or not ? No,no let me rephrase that.....do I get into my bunny rabbit PJ's one night, have a pint of mint chip ice ceam and a box of Milk Tray for dinner, get absoluley rat arsed drunk and THEN watch it ? Bear in mind, I will have a tape of P&P and a puke bag close at hand, if Gretta Scacci ( or the Milk Tray )is too much for my dainty stomach to take. O Lord, decisions, decisions......sigh....

An article about Barnaby Thompson, the Fragile Films producer of TIOBE from This is London: There is a good reason why producer Barnaby Thompson named his company Fragile Films. "It takes 1,000 calls to make a film happen," he says with feeling. "And only one to make it fall apart." The additional inference, expressed later in the conversation, is that British critics should be kinder to the indigenous product. One bad review can kill a delicate blossom, nurtured by people such as himself over a period of many months, sometimes years. "Why aren't you critics more supportive of the industry?" he asks with some heat. To which one can only reply that it is not our business. Being a man of sound mind and no little intelligence, he eventually concedes my point. But he doesn't like it. For better or worse, Thompson is one of the new breed of UK film producers aiming to create a sound commercial infrastructure for a film industry that has in the past lurched from imminent catastrophe to potential crisis. The advent of Lottery funding and the rise of a gung-ho attitude among a generation of ambitious, profit-oriented film-making mini-moguls has had an undeniable effect on British cinema in the past couple of years. Just how beneficial has yet to be measured. Yet if track records are anything to go by, Thompson can put his mouth where his (or other people's) money is. On one level, it may be easy to scoff at the aesthetic legitimacy of Spice World, Kevin and Perry Go Large and High Heels and Lowlifes; yet there is no denying that they all found their target audience, to a greater or lesser degree, and might all be considered commercially successful. And if you add to that canon An Ideal Husband, Lucky Break and The Importance of Being Earnest, Fragile Films begins to look a more interesting proposition - a model of juxtaposing junk fodder for Cro-Magnon teenagers with respectable middlebrow movies first created by Miramax Films. [Ed note: Hmmm, must add that Cro-Magnon part to my review, huh? *smacking lips*] It has taken some time for Thompson to wise up to the realities of producing movies. Having slaved at the coalface of British documentaries in his youth, Thompson slipped off to America to join Lorne Michaels, veteran film and television producer and creator of Saturday Night Live. Five years later - and with a production credit on Wayne's World and WW2 under his belt - Thompson returned to the UK with an entirely different world view. Suddenly, the audience reaction took precedence over everything else. "To discover movies that had this sudden lease of life above and beyond reviews was intoxicating. Before that, you'd live for the reviews." Basically, he had a Damascene conversion which opened his eyes to the words "seats", "bums" and "on". "We've all sat in films in full cinemas and been in cinemas with five people. Which would you rather have?" [Ed note: Allison?] My immediate answer is that it depends on the film. But that's the essential difference between critic and producer. Yet even the most austere critic must admire the recklessness and chutzpah in his latest venture. In collaboration with two other media partners and one real-estate company, Thompson has acquired the legendary Ealing Studios. And his hard nose for business suddenly softens as he reflects on the dewy-eyed romance of such an adventurous acquisition. "It started off as a mad dream," he says. "I grew up watching those films and most of the movies I've made are inspired by Ealing comedies. We are trying to create a community as a mini Hollywood studio. We have to develop a variety of different disciplines. If we can regenerate the brand we can progress from being less of a facility and more of a studio in the Hollywood manner, albeit smaller." Given the history of those past valiants who have tried and failed to perform a similar resurrection job on the much-loved studios, the latest scheme might be considered folly were it not for the fact that Thompson has covered all bases in his bid to restore Ealing to something of its former glory. Within the consortium which has acquired the site from the National Film and Television School are San Francisco-based digital development company The Idea Factory and the Manhattan Loft Company - which will manage the building and property aspect of the site. Clearly, it is very early days, but the newly acquired studio has already had one high-profile visitor. "George Lucas rented it out for the latest Star Wars picture for two weeks," Thompson says with some satisfaction. "We're very proud of that." Meanwhile, he is busy keeping the middlebrow torch alight with the Oliver Parker-directed Importance of Being Earnest, the "sequel" to An Ideal Husband. At least he is safe enough with the script, credited to one O Wilde. "The main thing that Lorne Michaels taught me was about the script," says Thompson. "Whether it is good or bad is irrelevant. The only question you must ask is: 'Does it work?'"

BTW, when are we going to get to see Conspiracy over here? Does anyone know? Conspiracy is finally being shown in Canada. It will air on September 8 - goodie!! BBC2 have just announced their �96 million Autumn schedules, which include Band of Brothers "dropped" by BBC1. Comedies, dramas, documentaries, blah, blah.......no mention of "Conspiracy". I've very little faith in the BBC! (actually, no faith). If they had bought "Conspiracy" surely there would have been a mention of the Emmy-nominated drama starring KB and CF? Also the Beeb are showing at least three films at the Edinburgh Film Festival (a natural showcase for "Conspiracy", and, I would have thought, last year's DQ). Hope I'm proved wrong. The "highlight" of the schedule seems to be a new comedy series called "'orrible" starring Johnny Vaughn. Can hardly wait.

"The main thing that Lorne Michaels taught me was about the script," says Thompson. "Whether it is good or bad is irrelevant. The only question you must ask is: 'Does it work?'" Huh? How can a script be "bad" but still "work?" Ah, Mr. Michaels, an elegant arbiter of good taste...

It was brought to my attention that CF and HG were up for 'Best Fight' at the Seventeen Teen Awards (I think they were on last night). I think they lost to Save the Last Dance. Hmmm wonder if it was worth me bribing a few of teenage cousins? Nah!

(Kate)Much as I love Colin, if you want to see Camille, I'd recommend the really old B&W version with Robert Taylor and Greta Garbo. Blasphemy...*shudder*. I don't wanna see Camille.It's a schmaltzy story. The only reason is ODB.I never see alternate movies that he plays in. Except the German Conspiracy. Seems so disloyal;-) (Mari)I know we've had some wishful thinking here about "Beyond Borders" I have strong vibes on that one for him....But I fear it gonna take more than candles & joss sticks.

(Beth) So do I rent Camille or not ? No,no let me rephrase that.....do I get into my bunny rabbit PJ's one night, have a pint of mint chip ice ceam and a box of Milk Tray for dinner, get absoluley rat arsed drunk and THEN watch it? Yes, yes, yes and yes. This is a fine film to watch with a bottle of Chardonnay. You might even think it's a comedy. ;-)

(Beth) do I get into my bunny rabbit PJ's one night, have a pint of mint chip ice ceam and a box of Milk Tray for dinner, get absoluley rat arsed drunk and THEN watch it? heehee Beth, like your style of movie-watching, glad there's someone else out there :-) but is Camille rentable? I've never seen it anywhere - is it going to be in the cult or world movie section?

(Rachael)but is Camille rentable? I've never seen it anywhere I didn't think Camille ever made it to PAL. Any of the "cognoscenti" know? Where is Ann W.? She recently got a copy of Camille. (At my recommendation, *hee, hee*) If I could get Emma out of lurkdom, I bet she likes it...story of La Traviata. (To the "coughers" in the gallery...that's an opera;-D

Runs into kitchen to check if there is any Milk Tray left, to counter the effects of a possible ( gulp ) bad Colin Firth experience. ( Went home to Ireland last month and brought an empty suitcase for all the choccy I was bringing back to the States with me ) Boxes of Roses and Quality Street:check Flakes: check, Minstrals: check Twirls: check. Aeros: check Chunky Dairy Milks: check Chunky Fruit and Nut: check Yorkie Bars:check OMG, no Milk Tray !!! Who stole my Milk Tray ? My house insurance bloody well better cover this horrendous crime. I wonder if I can get my Mom to FedEx me some ? It just doesn't feel right commiting to the Camille advenure with out it.

This is the cover of the UK DVD.Thanks to Tineke who posted it on VV I've never even seen this pic before.

Pride and prejudice personified, face to face, staring each other out. Everything's fine, except that he reminds me of Elvis...

Thanks, Rebecca, for the Conspiracy alert. Now I must explain to my brother how I'm a big WWII buff and need him to tape it for me! Wonder if he'll doubt my motives. I found Camille in my local library--must be considered v. educational:-) I enjoyed it but it reminded me of a spoof that Carol Burnett would do. "Oh, I have a cough. What could it mean?" Happened to see Moulin Rouge a few days after finding Camille and noted the similarities. At one point in Camille they even mention the Red Windmill. So I tried to picture CF in the Ewan role and failed. Karen, I love that Camille book cover! But is the P&P DVD cover two photos pasted together, or one photo? What lovely, thick hair (and I don't mean her's).

So I tried to picture CF in the Ewan role and failed. Wow, that's food for thought. Hrm. Can O(AFG)DB sing? I can't imagine him doing the earnest naive innocent thing now, but maybe earlier in his career?

Come on Darce, get a little closer, don't be shy! Love that cover!

LOL Echo, I'm gonna have Burning Love in my head all night long now. Thank you VERY much !!! Still....."I'm just a hunka', hunka' burning love" is pretty apt in this instance isn't it, with emphasis on the "hunk" bit. Sing it to me Colin. Love, love, love that pic. Should Col be of the same height as Jennifer in it ? He really is a good bit taller than her and, I think towering over her all dark and broody looking, would be rather yummy. Still, I suppose you would lose the impact of them eye balling each other, nose to nose, if they were not at the same height.

Lizzie appears to be standing a couple of steps up from Darcy on the stairs (assuming the pic is not a composite), so that explains the "eye to eye" bit. They are wearing the same outfits as on the back cover of "The Making of P&P", so presumably this pic was taken at the same time (Lizzie's full length gloves in broad daylight are a dead giveaway). Darcy is towering over Lizzie all right (how tall is she, anyway?), but is looking less "broody" and more pleased with life in general, so it must be "after" their engagement and/or wedding. As for the "Elvis" look, it never looked so good on "E", IMO. CF would probably cringe mightily at the comparison. (Or maybe he's a closet R&R fan???) Wouldn't mind seeing him shake his booty, though. Maybe a night club scene in BJD2? He could wear tight jeans. . . Drool. . .

How about the black leather jump suit from the 1968 comeback special ? Or there is always one of those awful ( but form fitting ) white 1970's jumpsuits. No, no, I have it.....what about those skimpy swimming trunks from Blue Hawaii ? thud......keels over.

Have not seen Blue Hawaii in recent memory, but thought of speedo on CF just caused heart palpitations. Is that the movie that "I can't help falling in love with you" is from? I think that's my favorite Elvis song. It's sort of appropriate for a P&P theme, don't you think (as sung by Darcy--not that he would ever let go enough to sing it)? Anyway, I think that CF could definitely sing "I did it my way" and mean it. But I must draw the line at '70's style jump suits. They always make me want to laugh at the wearer.

Just got this--looks like it was sent to a number of us who had inquired: Dear Friends of Firth & "Londinium" Sunlight Productions, the filmmakers of LONDINIUM, thank you all for your support and kind interest in the film. We are pleased to announce the U.S. debut of the film on CineMax, HBO's pure movie channel. The Premiere takes place on Sunday, September 2nd at 10:00pm Pacific Standard Time (Hollywood). (Following our earlier Comedy release "The Sex Monster" at 8pm and also starring Mariel Hemingway and Mike Binder. "Londinium" stars Colin Firth, Mike Binder, Mariel Hemingway, Stephen Fry, Jack Dee, Stephen Marcus and Christopher Lawford. Kindly inform your U.S. and Canadian friends. Unfortunately, we do not have the release dates as of yet for France, Germany and Benelux which was sold last summer. The United Kingdom has been slow to take up the charge, however, we continue to do our best and hope to have news to report soon. Feel free to let your U.K. companies know you want your "Londinium"!! We will put any Video Release dates or DVD Release dates on the Website as soon as they occur- which we expect shortly as.... Mike Binder, the writer, director, and star also appears in HBO's "The Mind of The Married Man" television series comedy from Sunlight Productions on Sunday, September 16th at 10:00pm following Tom Hanks "Band of Brothers" (on HBO) Mike Binder also recently appeared opposite Tom Cruise in Stephen Speilberg's "Minority Report". Please look to the soon to be updated and redesigned Sunlight Productions site at: http://www.sunlightproductions.com for further news on "Londinium" , our latest film "The Search For John Gissing" starring Mike and Alan Rickman and Janeane Garofalo, which we have just completed. We appreciate your time and enthusiasm and regret that we cannot reply to individual e-mails as we are engaged in the making of the films themselves on a daily basis. Thank you for your understanding and continued support of our films. Warm regards Jack Binder Producer On behalf of the Filmmakers and Talent Sunlight Productions

(Echo)Everything's fine, except that he reminds me of Elvis... Hmm, maybe he should rethink the length of his sideburns. JE must be standing on a higher step. She is fairly short. When I saw her in "Design for Living" in NY it was during the AIDS campaign and she was in the lobby with other cast members collecting money after the play. I'd guess she's about my height (5'3"), maybe a bit taller.

Hmmm, I've stood right next to JE a couple of times, once when we were both in flat shoes and she's slightly taller than me, so I'd guess 5'7" or so. LOL at the Elvis comparisons, ladies; thank you, thankyouverymuch for the laughs.:-) The Blue Hawaii imagery works for me, Beth. Can picture the final scene in which 'ol Darce is floating on a barge, decked out in one of Marcia's leis, warbling, "This . . .is . . . mah pledge." :-) On the opposite shore, his bride Lizzie awaits, barefoot, adorned in a snug sarong, long hair floating about her shoulders and back (down, Ben ;-)

British Stage Tough on U.S. Imports By Matt Wolf LONDON (Variety) - British boards are laden with a new crop of hit American imports of late, a circumstance that would seem to back up the notion that American and Brit legit have a mutual admiration society. Neil LaBute's ``The Shape of Things'' did so well at London's Almeida Theater at King's Cross that it returned this summer for an encore engagement. Across town at the Hampstead Theater, Donald Margulies' Pulitzer Prize-winning ``Dinner With Friends'' played to near-capacity in the 174-seater and was extended for three weeks; it may get a commercial West End stand after Christmas. ``A Lie of the Mind'' is at the Donmar Warehouse, the Sam Shepard play's second major London showing in 14 years, while Russell Lees' 1995 off-Broadway entry ``Nixon's Nixon'' opened July 20 at the Comedy. And over on Shaftesbury Avenue, 73-year-old American songstress Barbara Cook is back in town, this time to sing Sondheim; a major revival of Tennessee Williams' ``Cat on a Hot Tin Roof,'' starring Brendan Fraser and Ned Beatty, follows her into the Lyric Theater, starting previews Sept. 5. A closer look reveals that the transatlantic love affair seems decidedly one-sided, however. ``There's great respect for British plays'' when they come to New York, said Wendy Wasserstein, the Tony- and Pulitzer-winning scribe of ``The Heidi Chronicles.'' ``Martin McDonagh and 'The Weir' get a wonderful reception (in New York) and they may well deserve it, but there's an openness to the response, and I don't always feel the reverse is true.'' Lynne Meadow, artistic director of off-Broadway's Manhattan Theater Club, has watched several of her venue's plays die in London (''Sylvia,'' ``Collected Stories,'' ``Frankie and Johnny in the Clair de Lune''); only one -- Richard Greenberg's ``Three Days of Rain'' -- saw any real success. ``There seems to be a certain kind of work that just is not embraced'' in London, she shrugged. Pulitzer winner Marsha Norman ('''night, Mother'') cited ``a reluctance in London to give American work a fair shake, while American audiences and critics tend to think British imports are better than anything we could possibly do.'' Norman most recently was repped on the West End by her book for the musical ``The Secret Garden,'' a Broadway long-runner that flopped at the Aldwych Theater early in June. ``I would think more than twice,'' said Julian Schlossberg, the New York producer (''Vita and Virginia''), ``before I would want to open a play in London. The economics are very good -- still much better than New York -- but the attrition rate is even higher.'' Even a Pulitzer Prize doesn't guarantee you won't suffer abroad -- as ``The Heidi Chronicles,'' ``Rent,'' ``How I Learned to Drive'' and ``Wit'' all did, to varying degrees. London isn't necessarily impressed by New York kudos: ''Breathtakingly vacuous,'' wrote one London paper of the 1997 West End preem of Terrence McNally's ``Master Class.'' Sure enough, the New York Tony winner was a speedy London goner -- at a loss of about $550,000. FLOPS TOPS Ironically, sometimes it's the New York flops that are best reviewed in England. Neil Simon's Broadway fast-fade ''Proposals'' won him some of his most admiring British reviews when it opened at the West Yorkshire Playhouse in Leeds. Wasserstein said one of the best notices anywhere for her recent Lincoln Center entry ``Old Money'' came from London's Sheridan Morley in the Spectator: He called the comedy ''brilliantly nostalgic and infinitely charming.'' Americans Christopher Shinn, Naomi Wallace and Rebecca Gilman possess a high profile in London, partly because each has premiered work here rather than waiting for a New York imprimatur that may not, in fact, be helpful. THE UNKNOWN AMERICANS On the other hand, American faves such as Paul Rudnick, Christopher Durang and Kenneth Lonergan are just three of the well-regarded American playwrights who are virtually unknown in England. ``Side Man'' got a so-so response on the West End, while ''Hedwig and the Angry Inch'' flopped. The transatlantic relationship, said Simon Curtis, director of London's current ``Dinner With Friends,'' ``is a very complicated thing: Everyone loves America and yet is also sort of nervous about it. There's so much American culture in our faces that people want theater to be protected from it.'' As executive producer of the Donmar Warehouse, Caro Newling and her artistic director, Sam Mendes, have programmed numerous U.S. works into their Covent Garden venue over the past nine years, starting with Stephen Sondheim's ``Assassins'' in 1992. This year's lineup has been top-heavy with American work, from Sondheim's ``Merrily We Roll Along'' and David Mamet's ''Boston Marriage'' -- the latter transferring to the West End in December -- through to ``A Lie of the Mind'' at present and a revival of Lillian Hellman's ``The Little Foxes'' in September. SECRECY KEY? What, then, is Newling's recipe for American theatrical success in the U.K.? ``The best way to open an American play is literally tiptoe it in and present it,'' said Newling. The Donmar programmed ``Three Days of Rain'' several seasons ago as part of a spring season of American imports; unheralded, the play opened to rave reviews and was brought back for a second run that averaged a hefty 95% attendance across eight weeks. By contrast, a New York sensation like Paula Vogel's Pulitzer-winning ``How I Learned to Drive'' averaged 43% capacity at the Donmar -- notwithstanding a production from John Crowley and leading performance from Helen McCrory that were easily the match of the play's New York incarnation. Perhaps prizes simply matter less abroad. ``What is a Pulitzer Prize?'' said Peter Franklin, Vogel's agent at William Morris in New York. ``It's an American prize for Americans given by Americans.'' Tony Kushner, the American dramatist who is equally highly regarded in London, explained: ``Winning prizes, great reviews, being well-known as a writer -- all these things have a different currency in England.'' Kushner's ``Angels in America'' was seen at London's Royal National Theater well before it ever got to New York. ``The British theatergoing public, at least from my perspective, seems to be more independent-minded,'' he said. That can result, of course, in a chilly London reception for American hits, which is particularly dispiriting for those American writers who have always admired their British counterparts. Brits Caryl Churchill, Harold Pinter and David Hare are regularly mentioned by their American colleagues as playwriting gods. Nor are these Americans ignorant of London. LaBute lived in Wimbledon (news - web sites) in 1991, where he began work on a PhD. dissertation on the work of the Royal Court under the tenure of its former artistic director, Max Stafford-Clark. Wasserstein wrote ``Heidi'' while on a fellowship to London in the 1980s, and David Auburn scripted his Pulitzer- and Tony-winning ``Proof'' while living in North London in 1998. Still, the local taste for American work tends to embrace portraits of venality or low life (such as ``The Shape of Things'') but not the John Donne scholar at the heart of ``Wit'' or the literary-minded women who drive Margulies' ``Collected Stories.'' The latter two flopped on the West End. SEDUCED BY THE DARK SIDE ``When American plays simply deal with human behavior,'' said Margulies, ``we fall into a discomfort zone in London. There seems to be a problem for those American plays that don't use the social-economic landscape of people like Mamet or Miller that reveal a darker side of American capitalism.'' Of his widely traveled ``Nixon's Nixon,'' which has so far had three separate British engagements, Boston-based Lees said, ''It's certainly true that the classic American play is domestic, and this is very different; that's been one of its selling points.'' Patrick Herold, owner of the Helen Merrill agency in New York, put it more bluntly: ``If an American play is lowbrow or makes Americans look buffoonish, that seems to succeed far better than anything that is or attempts to be smart or serious, like 'Wit' or (Steve Martin's) 'Picasso at the Lapin Agile.' The British sensibility is, 'No, no, no; we know how to do that. You don't.' `` Not that such perceptions are likely to inhibit American work coming to London. ``Proof'' is deliberately biding its time but could reach Blighty next spring, while Ken Ludwig, Keith Reddin, Angus MacLachlan, August Wilson and Rebecca Gilman all have London productions on tap (in Ludwig's case, three). New York producer Daryl Roth, who has had two U.S. transfers flop on the West End (''Old Wicked Songs,'' ``Wit'') while one mightily succeeded (''Three Tall Women''), sums it up: ''London's tricky, very tricky. But it's still London.''

No! no jumpsuits! I forbid it! and even speedos *shudder* there was a very funny article in a Sunday paper recently about what men should wear on the beach, Rod Stewart illustrated why men should NEVER wear speedos! Now, a nice pair of shorts, (no, not RF pencil legged ones) showing off a trim waist and flat abs, and nice tanned legs *thud* oops where was I? O(AFG)DB sings a little ditty in SIL - not chart topping stuff! In Edge of Reason there's a bit of dancing at Rebecca's house party

Is this a new article by Matt Wolf? It is nearly identical to another he wrote about a month or so ago. What, then, is Newling's recipe for American theatrical success in the U.K.? "The best way to open an American play is literally tiptoe it in and present it," said Newling. The Donmar programmed "Three Days of Rain" several seasons ago as part of a spring season of American imports; unheralded, the play opened to rave reviews and was brought back for a second run that averaged a hefty 95% attendance across eight weeks. Funny (strange) that she failed to mention 3DOR's was part of an American Import series and that only that play got the attendance numbers. Shucks, wonder what differentiated it from the two others? ;-)

Thanks for sharing Jack's Londinium correspondence, Mari. (JB) We are pleased to announce the U.S. debut of the film on CineMax, HBO's pure movie channel. Translation: Cinemax, HBO's pure old, dead movie channel (I'm telling ya, they still air Sixteen Candles in prime time). The Premiere takes place on Sunday, September 2nd at 10:00pm Pacific Standard Time (Hollywood). (Following our earlier Comedy release "The Sex Monster" at 8pm and also starring Mariel Hemingway and Mike Binder. Chuh. Programming genius. :-/ "Londinium" stars Colin Firth, Mike Binder, Mariel Hemingway, Stephen Fry, Jack Dee, Stephen Marcus and Christopher Lawford. How convenient that CF's name is listed first, before that of the writer, director and STAR, Mike Binder. No dummy, that Jack. ;-) And I'm shaking my head at this one: (Variety article) SECRECY KEY? What, then, is Newling's recipe for American theatrical success in the U.K.? ``The best way to open an American play is literally tiptoe it in and present it,'' said Newling. The Donmar programmed ``Three Days of Rain'' several seasons ago as part of a spring season of American imports; unheralded, the play opened to rave reviews and was brought back for a second run that averaged a hefty 95% attendance across eight weeks. Aargh! Aargh! It was the star, stupid!

(M. Wolf article)a major revival of Tennessee Williams' ``Cat on a Hot Tin Roof,'' starring Brendan Fraser and Ned Beatty, follows her into the Lyric Theater, starting previews Sept. 5. Ned Beatty as Big Daddy I can see, but Brendan Fraser? As Brick? I dunno. Yes, the star of TDOR had a lot to do with its success. How many multiple-ticket sales were Drooleurs responsible for? I saw it only once, as it's rather a long commute to the Donmar from where I live (alas). But that play was good on its own merits. I'd like to see it again, even without ODB.

Jennifer is 5'8". You almost got it Mari. Thanks for the correspondence from Jack... "We appreciate your time and enthusiasm and regret that we cannot reply to individual e-mails as we are engaged in the making of the films themselves on a daily basis. " Sounds like h'e the chief cook and bottle washer. Agree with Eileen, it's a shame they dumped Londinium on Cinemax. On the other hand, we *are* grateful, given the alternative.Think:SLOW British Stage Tough on U.S. Import How true, remember how they butchered Lion King, and gave the Olivier to that fairy tale musical that played for a few weeks at the National? PS LK is still the hottest ticket in London. RE: Donmar playing to 95% capacity.Not that he couldn't fill the Colosseum, but they neglected to say that the Donmar seats 250 people. Most HS auditoriums do better than that.

have written to my mate at the BBC ;-) as well as C4 and FilmFour, suggesting they pick up Londinium - will let you know if interesting responses arrive.

Is this a new article by Matt Wolf? Seems to be; was dated today. The transatlantic relationship, said Simon Curtis, director of London's current ``Dinner With Friends,'' Is this the fellow who's married to Elizabeth McG? She's in this, right? BTW, the film version of DWF is HBO's original movie this month, with Dennis Quaid, Greg Kinnear, Toni Collette and Andie MacDowell. V.v. good--I highly recommend. Agree with Eileen, it's a shame they dumped Londinium on Cinemax. On the other hand, we *are* grateful, given the alternative.Think:SLOW I think it will make it to HBO eventually--even TSM did. But, they don't want it to debut there, as then it's branded as one of "their" films and it's not.

I meant to add, I'm glad you wrote your pal and the others, Rachael.:-) It can't hurt. Sunlight is a small operation; I can't imagine that they had many resources to put into marketing it abroad.

Knew it sounded very similar and was probably posted here before because it at least mentioned CF and the cast of 3DOR. Matt Wolf's previous article appeared in the Observer on 6/24. He's not the first journalist to get a lot of mileage from a single interview or series of interviews: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4209230,00.html

The transatlantic relationship, said Simon Curtis, director of London's current ``Dinner With Friends, Yes this is E McG's husband and she is init. It is a very good play. I would definitely recommend it. It is currently at the Hampstead Theatre in London.

have written to my mate at the BBC ;-) as well as C4 and FilmFour, suggesting they pick up Londinium - will let you know if interesting responses arrive. Well done Rachel....you never know your luck! And if not, it looks as though we'll get it (eventually) on DVD. (Dumb question...is DVD universal, ie no problems with format according to region?) I hope "Conspiracy" doesn't suffer the same fate. I found this review at the University of California SB site. It sounds unmissable.... Stunning, utterly memorable HBO production, THE CONSPIRACY Earlier this week, HBO showed its original-made 90 minute film, THE CONSPIRACY---a brilliantly written, dazzlingly acted Anglo-American work based on authentic records that survived of the Nazi's Wansee Conference that was held in 1942, where the various heads of the party and main bureaucratic agencies agreed on the Final Solution of the "Jewish Problem" . . . that is, the agreed-upon extermination of the Jews throughout Europe, who were to be hunted down, rounded up, shipped off to extermination camps, where, the head of the conference (SS General Heydrich, second-in-command of that dreaded organization filled with German Ph.D.s) boasted that they could destroy 2400 Jews an hour. An hour? asks one of the incredulous members at Wannsee, the head of the Gestapo (if I recall rightly). Yes, 2400. Colonel Adolf Eichmann, Heydrich's assistant there---charged with the implementation of the diabolical scheme---was then given the right to speak, and he brought out his log of statistics (the Nazis were keen on detailed notes, detailed bureaucratic notetaking, detailed and punctual carrying out of orders . . . no sloppiness, no lack of discipline were tolerated) and showed that this would mean 62,000 or so Jews a day, 365 days a year, or 21 million in a year, "always assuming that there might be that many Yids in Europe," he added. In fact there were about 9 million practising Jews from Soviet Asia across all of Europe, including Britain (about 1.5% of the European popultions in total), but since the Nazis used racial criteria, not religious, they naturally were determined to root out "half-Jews" and "quarter-Jews" and the like, something discussed in detail by the Wannsee members. The HBO production is an overwhelmingly, emotionally wrench work of virtuoso talent from start to finish . . . not one thing to reproach in it. Fully worthy of Shakespeare's greatest plays, it's one of the 2 or 3 most stunning memorable works I've ever seen on tv in this country or Europe. The grisly, nefarious exchanges at the Wanseee conference are all the more effective for being delivered by some of the best actors in the English-speaking world including that great Irish actor, Kenneth Branagh who plays Heydrich complete with blonde-dyed hair and, believe me, looking like Heydrich to judge by the photos we have of this nice German guy. No one gets too emotional, everyone goes about his business as though he and the others were talking about a boost in munitions output to help the boys at the front, there are breaks for lunch and drinks, then a nice dinner, where of course the petty envies and professional jealousies come out (though everyone fears the SS, even the Gestapo head, if any challenges the SS timetable and methods . . . not for moral reasons, you understand, all were fervent believers in the Germanic mission to destroy European Jewry and make Europe ready for pure German blood as rule and Germanic culture, but they were worried about protecting their bureaucratic turfs)........

DVD is not universal. even the Gestapo head, if any challenges the SS timetable and methods . . . Seems he got his characters mixed up.

(Conspiracy review) even the Gestapo head, if any challenges the SS timetable and methods . . . (Karen) Seems he got his characters mixed up. Seems he also missed CF's performance: No one gets too emotional Thanks for this, Bethan, but didn't we say it was unmissable back in May? ;-) (Evelyn, re: Londinium on Cinemax) On the other hand, we *are* grateful, given the alternative.Think:SLOW Yes, yes. Too true. I thought about that yesterday after I posted. (Evelyn) but they neglected to say that the Donmar seats 250 people We won't quibble with the details. ;-) Yet it blows me away that the Donmar staff can't or won't credit CF for putting all those bums in the seats.

Bethan, here's info on the various DVD regions. As you can see, it's even more convoluted than the picture for videos: Region 0: Universal for cartoons, older films and educational titles. Region 1: Canada, United States and its territories. Region 2: Japan, Europe, South Africa, Middle East. Region 3: South-East Asia, East Asia. Region 4: Australia, New Zealand, Pacific Islands, Central America, Mexico, South America, Caribbean. Region : Former Soviet Union, Indian Subcontinent, Africa (also North Korea, Mongolia). Region 6: China. Multi-region DVD players are available on the Internet, but they are very expensive. As a counter move, the film distributors are close to implementing technology which would make DVDs unplayable on a multi-region unit. It's all about fighting piracy.

(Eileen), Yet it blows me away that the Donmar staff can't or won't credit CF for putting all those bums in the seats. Well, you can't have EMcG husband read that and he might be a big sponser for the Donmar some day. ;-) Cheers everyone, I'm back! Had a lovely time in Italy, blah, blah... was most upset that Colin had visited (the wrong lake), Lago Maggiore, instead of my beautiful Lake Como. He does look great in those pictures from Locarno. Imagine my surprise when I read about it Italy! Lucky for me, ODG Karen's phone line was free! Don't have much time now to catch up on everything, but I will. Smoochxxx

Welcome home, Moon! *smooch right back at 'cha* Many thanks for the Locarno tip! Tsk. Too bad CF missed you again.

Benvenuto!! So glad you're home and probably just in time for our long anticipated news of the heart-wrenching film commitment that superceded il Hamleto. ;-)

Moon, welcome back, Smoochacha! :-)