Odds & Ends - Part 7

I'm first!:-) King Arthur is shaping up as a Yum-Fest! Wish Colin would get himself into one of these big spectacle mass-appeal type projects for a change. Variety reports the following: Ioan Gruffudd has been set to play Lancelot in "King Arthur." Gruffudd, best known for playing the title role in the TV series "Horatio Hornblower," will star alongside Clive Owen, who plays King Arthur, and Keira Knightley ("Bend it Like Beckham"), who plays Guinevere. Stephan Dillane also stars. Antoine Fuqua is directing and Jerry Bruckheimer is producing. Scripted by David Franzoni and John Lee Hancock, "Arthur" eliminates the fantasy from the well-known tale and instead concentrates on the history and politics in the reign of the king after the Roman empire collapsed and power skirmishes broke out in 450 A.D.

June is a busy birthday month indeed! Here are the ones for the first half of June: Lizza - June 7 (that's tomorrow, BTW) KJArt - June 8 Moon - June 14

(Mari)Wish Colin would get himself into one of these big spectacle mass-appeal type projects for a change. ....Jerry Bruckheimer is producing. Who also produced "Kangaroo Jack"...(pass the barf -bag);-)

Here is more of the cast. It may turn out to be a lot of bombast. Jerry Bruckheimer is no Saul Zaentz, I agree! I didn't see Training Day, so I don't know a lot about Fuqua, but what a great cast this is. They have started building some massive sets outside Dublin. The film is set to open Christmas Day 2004. I am, to say the least, excited... And if Jerry B does a full color newspaper foldout like he did for Pirates of the Caribbean, that would an extra treat. I scanned Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom if anyone want to see them. Arthur - Clive Owen Stephen Dillane - Merlin Keira Knightley - Guinevere Ioan Gruffudd - Lancelot Stellan Skarsgard - Cedric Ray Winstone - Bors Hugh Dancy - Galahad Charlie Creed-Miles - Ganis Til Schweiger - Cyrnic Mads Mikkelsen - Tristram Joel Edgerton - Gawain Ken Stott - Marius Honorius Ray Stevenson - Dagonet Sean Gilder -Jols Pat Kinevane -Horton Valeria Cavalli -Fulcinia

(Arthur cast):Mads Mikkelsen - Tristram Me think, he is getting along in the big world ;-) Mads is one of the hottest Danish actors. He was in the Danish movie "Wilbur commits suicide" with Shirley Henderson. This might not me very interesting to anyone but me, but it's nice to see some of our "home-actors" in some of the interesting foreighn movies. Thank you for the informations, Murph :-)

(Mari) Wish Colin would get himself into one of these Me too but with reservations. Too big a cast and he could get lost in the lot. Antoine Fuqua is directing Looked up his bio on hollywood.com. His latest movie is Tears of the Sun w/Bruce Willis and Monica Belluci. I haven't seen any of his movies (not my scene) but probably saw some of his ads and music videos without realizing it. "Arthur" eliminates the fantasy from the well-known tale and instead concentrates on the history and politics Yes! Just hope it will be well done. Stellan Skarsgard Just saw his "Insomnia" the other day. Hope to see it again so I can concentrate less on the subtitles. Love this actor. First noticed him in Hunt for Red October. (Annette) This might not me very interesting to anyone but me You have company. I love "home grown talent" wherever home is. A good actor is a good actor. The nationality doesn't matter.

(Mari) I'm first!:-) You wouldn't have been if Karen had the new topic up at 1am last night. ;-) Tried to post without realizing it was the end of the last topic. (Murph) I didn't see Training Day (Sophie) I haven't seen any of his movies I liked Training Day very much, especially Denzel's performance. Liked The Replacement Killers, too, but not as much. Neither are everyone's cup of tea I'm sure.

Sorry, Sonia. I need to look more carefully when commenting on posts from you and Sophie to give correct credit.

Lizza!!!!!!!! And let the good times roll!!!

(Psst! Lizza, I posted this now so that you would find it bright and early.) Lizza, as you are The Lady of the Whisks, I searched for the perfect cooking accessory to add to your collection. Somehow, these don�t quite have the right amount of gravitas, if you know what I mean. Undaunted, I shall continue my quest for the proper tool. This model to your right, I fear, is far too flat, and will never get the job done. Accordingly, my pilgrimage for the perfect culinary aid continues�. This is more along the lines of what I had in mind: a nice large balloon whisk. Now that I�ve seen it, however, I must include a complementary gift I couldn�t resist: Ah, much better. The perfect addition to any kitchen (or dining room, or�)�just as he is! Why, I even think Mark�s proposing a toast� Happy Birthday, Lizza!

Happy Birthday, Lizza Lisa's mentioning of whisk gave me quite a different image. I'm a big fan of Sound of Music, so here's a little "kitten with whiskers" to great you: Your birthdayrose is chosen by the name alone (Lady Mary Fitzwilliam)

A very Happy Birthday, Lizza Have a great day !

Watch out, Lizza is using her whisk again! I hope you find this present just as enjoyable. ;-) So here's a toast to you, Lizza. Happy Birthday, Lizza!

Uncentering

Response 15 of 16: aishling (aishling) * Sat, Jun 7, 2003 (07:53) Happy Birthday Lizza Have a great day

Happy Birthday ,Lizza, ole buddie...

A deja vu B'day celebration.... To the Gal who caters the best brunch in NY for Colin viewing..... Mimosas:

Birthday greetings to you from Devon Avenue Your dear friend Hema has been working her fingers to the bone for you, preparing one of her specialities: "I have prepared a very special dish of the spiciest bones and gristle to be found this side of the Vindhya Range." "What, your friend don't like? How you think I keep my prices so cheap? You smarten up and eat vegetarian like most of my customers." "Now, don't you go bothering your waitress. She very busy ignoring you. You just sit there and wait. You get drink when she decide you get drink. And don't you come back here to my kitchen. I too busy for you. You come back here, I give you evil eye."

Happy birthday Lizza! After Evelyn and Karen's feasts, I suggest a little sunbathing for today, it might set you up for ever! :) Seriously, kick your feet back and enjoy your special day!

For your birthday, I'm having a case of these Texas beauties sent to you, along with my detailed, step-by-step instructions for how to nuke oatmeal. ;-) Then I saw this and thought of us. We could show them how it is done. Remember, there's always plenty of room in the trunk! *guffaw*

I'm searching for that special birthday gift for Lizza. No expense spared.

Psssst, Colin Next booth over. The feather boa. That's more Lizza!

Just to demonstrate that agile wrists have many uses

Oh, alright, it's beyond the paycheck I'm getting for this film, but if Lizza wants a boa, Lizza gets a boa! Feathers for my Lady In Red . . .

Whisk Man, coming through with birthday wishes for Lizza: And now, to demonstrate my impressive skills:

(Karen)Remember, there's always plenty of room in the trunk! *guffaw* Oh, Yeah....I draw the line. Next time, *I* drive....

Lizza....for your birthday some and I wanted to get something for your "whisker" too.....but I'm afraid you'll have to entertain him on your own (although it is your birthday, you still have to do some of the work....think you can keep him busy??) ;-) Have a Happy Birthday!!!!!

Happy Birthday, Lizza. Sorry I couldn't join you for the preem at but... ....told me you looked fantastic...;-)

Lizza dear, it�s me, Peter. I�m afraid my wrists are rather limp for whisk-wielding� Here�s looking at you, kid!

Ladies, I am overwhelmed ! Thank you for such a wonderful array of delectable goodies..... ooh and the food's nice too:-))! I would have been with you earlier but some rogue mice put out my schedule. (You don't want to know) Now being whisked;-) out to dinner but back to thank the ladies of drool very soon. Meanwhile eat, drink and be merry and enjoy the droolfest

Lizza, darling, why settle for whisks when you can have whiskers? You really know how to bring out the tiger in me, birthday girl!

Happy Birthday, dear Lizza Don't ever forget me... These other blokes that followed might be able to ride a motorcycle , whisk an omelet or paint a stupid picture of a girl with an earring....but I am your first and true love!

Hi Lizza, I wanted to send something special but my lack of skill only left me feeling like this.....

OK! Thanks to Karen I can now send you a Happy Birthday toast! Wouldn't want a "Dry" celebration.... (img src="http://pages.prodigy.net/bestsmileys1/emoticons3/hapbirt.gif") I shall conquer this! I shall!

eventually...

Peeked through the window and saw a party going on. Couldn't stop and join you, so now wearing a frown. The wishes are a plenty. The lady special must be. So my wish to you Lizza, Happy Birthday indeed!

Lizza, next time you sail to these shores . . . . . . for some premiereglamour and fun . . .please give us at least nine months notice so that certain people . . . . . . can be outfitted properly in advance.

Ladies, thank you for such a wonderful party! I have been out enjoying a gorgeous "creme brulee", wouldn't dare choose anything else, served with English summer fruits. Lisa you truly are Lady of the order of the whisk You cracked me up, thank you, LOL ;-)) Annette your kitten's whiskers and beautiful rose are perfect. Nita, thanks for your delicious birthday cake, yummy. Moon, you know my favourite "post whisking" look. Had to pick myself up off the floor! Aishling, "Cheers" and thank you. Evelyn Ole buddie how lovley that you recreated that brunch to die for. Food always tastes better in the presence of ODB and Mr. Howard Johnson :-)) karen Spiciest bone and gristle ROTFLOL!! Where's my birthday doggy bag Hema? :-)) pROBABLY COULDN'T FIND ANYWHERE TO PARK lol ;-)) Odile , thanks to you.

Karen , I'd like to witness ODB handling a case of Texas beauties ! Mari, LOL! It's Colin with that "Donmar/Oxfam fusion look " we know and love. Glad he hasn't changed! Karen, Omigod, Twirling tassles to die for. "Agile wrists" nevah ever had it so good:-)) Mari, is that feather boa FAIRTRADE? Can only wear if from Costa Rica and reassuringly expensive and promoted by a man with unflattering expression;-)) Rika, "such impressive" close ups leave me giddy and unable to eat even a morsel of that omlette, thank you! Evelyn Next time *I* drive Only if you're going to New Mexico:-)) Otherwise next stop Islington.

Tress Think you can keep him busy? Honey, rest assured, I can whisk up a storm ;-))But only after your fab cake and champagne. Karen, Post 31 is the perfect gift ( ditch the matching parka!) Lisa JH, A birthday is never complete without a "Peter moment" so "Have a pinch" yourself kid :-)) And why settle for whisks when you can have "whiskers", exactly, rough stubble is a birthday given! Grrr to you too. Evelyn, How kind of you to ask Fitzwilliam to join our party. Remind him NOT to remove his greatcoat... or else. Beedee You conquered this in style, so no more head butting! Thanks for your wishes. Sonia , Loved your verse You have a way, To perfectly enhance my day:-))

(Mari) please give us at least nine months notice so that certain people . . .. . . can be outfitted properly in advance. ROTFLOL! Am Global Prioritying your doggie bag of doggie food. Ask and ye shall receive. ;-)

And Mari, a visit to your shores, always enhances pleasure! Like to keep you guessing tho' as to when I'm next in town. I mean how much notice do agile wrists need fergodsake?;-))

Karen Ask and you shall receive I daren't Boss:-))

Goodnight ...."Sweet Dreams, Lizza"....

Happy Birthday Lizza! I ran across this nude birthday fairy in the enchanted wood (she recently spent an afternoon sitting on a very handsome gentleman's lap) and she gleaned from this "session" with him his very particular wish to send xxx and ooo's to you to you on your special day to celebrate! (with homage to Cinema Paradiso) If this post is crazy Karen, please forgive and delete, my home computer is a nightmare...

(Lizza) Post 31 is the perfect gift A real jaw-dropper, isn't it? ;-) *he he he* Matthew Field can go pound.

Just a quick birthday wish, Lizza. I suppose better late than never to the party, though I come without bearing gifts. :-( Would've sent you a personal email tomorrow as per instructions, but alas, your email link is incomplete. Hope you had a wonderful birthday!

Have a great day Lizza!

(Lizza) Post 31 is the perfect gift (Karen)A real jaw-dropper, isn't it? ;-) *he he he* Matthew Field can go pound. LOL Karen! Well he can "pound on me" as Janice J used to sing or is that.......? Never mind:-)!

(Well, KJ, it's past midnight where I live, soooo:) KJ, I would like to turn the tables and capture your lovely likeness for a change. I�m struggling a bit, as I can�t decide which medium to employ: charcoal, pastels or watercolors? You�re the expert. What would you recommend? You�re such a beautiful woman, KJ dear, that if it weren�t for my ability to concentrate, I�d certainly be quite distracted by the fact that you haven�t got a stitch on �. What�s that you say? It's your birthday? And you're impressed that I can speak whilst holding a paintbrush or pencil in my mouth? How about if we share a few tricks of the trade once I'm finished fleshing you out? KJ, it�s time to stop sketching and start celebrating your birthday! God, you�re ab-solutely gorgeous! Since you�re already in your birthday suit, KJ, do you mind if I �get into� mine as well? Brilliant. Would you like to see my etchings, too? ;-) Happy Birthday, Karen! (Sorry, KJ, guess I�m in a frisky mood tonight;-)�.Lisa)

Wouw, Lisa. Your greeting-skills are hard to follow, but I'll risk it anyway ;-) Happy Birthday, KJ! I�m bringing you a birthday toast from a person, who also prefers a half-full glass ;-) He brought this rose, named after another artist, who shares your first name, it seems: Have a great day!

Sorry the image-posting didn't work. If I can't make it work this time, try following the link instead http://www.spring.net/~rika/BJD/bjd002.jpg Capture courtesy of Rika.

A very Happy Birthday to Karen, whom we all love, just as she is ! (See picture above)

Have a Great Day KJ

KJ, since it looks like you will be spending a lot of time painting with Colin, I wanted to make sure you had extra paint. These are the newest colours, BTW. And to make it easier to follow Colin on set your own personal: So relax and have a wonderful Birthday. And... we insist on seeing the paintings, if you manage to get them done. ;-D Happy Birthday, KJ!

A very Happy Birthday, KJ Enjoy your "sit" for Colin Ware, the artist. Hope you'll share the results:-)

OH, I'll try that again,

HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY KJ AND MANY MORE.

KJ, Henry Dashwood here. Thought I�d ring you up and wish you the Happiest of Birthdays. Who�s that I hear laughing in the background? Is it that pathetic Ware chap again? ;-)

Here's looking at you Kid! Happy Birthday KJ!

KJ!! and many more

For KJ, our Donmar artist extradinaire HAVE A WONDERFUL BIRTHDAY CELEBRATE IN STYLE!

KJ and Lindak , thank you for such great pictorial birthday wishes and Maria, you conjured up a wonderful set of birthday images too. Dorine, thanks for your wishes.

KJ, since Moon has given you new paint, and Lisa has sent you Colin Ware, I thought you and Colin would like to try some of these, and use your bodies as the canvas.... Finger Paints for Lovers - A sensual and colorful collection for the creative lovers. Turn your lover into a work of art

awwwright, i know what you birthday girls are wondering : where did the party boy go ? oh my, i think he's waiting for you girls at the bar, and wants to share a drinkie with you as a birthday treat : animatronicolin 1.4, party boy mode (a rather lighter than usual file)

Sorry to interrupt your party KJ, but I couldn't pass this up. From People online: Heather Going Off Broadway STEPHEN M. SILVERMAN and CANDIE JONES CAST: "Austin Powers" star and former main squeeze of Edward Burns, actress Heather Graham, 33, will make her New York stage debut this September in the Off-Broadway play "Recent Tragic Events," by Craig Wright, about a blind date on Sept. 12, 2001, reports The New York Times. "It might sound stupid," she says about taking on the role (and the New York critics), "but I think this is so well written, I don't think I can mess it up." I don't think I can mess it up." Betcha you can.

....about a blind date on Sept. 12," I pity the co-star.Yikes...they didn't mention him?????? Cute beer greeting, Sophie. But the dreadful K-Mart shirt. Ewwwwww

(evelyn) But the dreadful K-Mart shirt. Ewwwwww i take it that you don't like it, then ! well, to tell you the truth, i really-really like it, in a 50ies revisited kind of way, and i believe it's actually knit (can't believe i'm discussing clothes...) at the railway station today : was browsing through the international section of my favorite newsstand, saw a blurb about hg in the brit version of elle or something (something to do with 'how i got to understand men' or whatever). didn't even take a look at it (elle and its clones are not my scene), wonder if there was anything interesting now, though...

KJ, here is one of my favorite Vincent van Gogh paintings. Sorry, I can�t give you the real deal, as I believe it�s at MOMA. Hope it�s been a great day so far, KJ! (P.S. Click on the link for a RealPlayer clip of the song, Vincent.)

Hey Sophie, the animation was great, though I don't like that shirt, either. (Knit, huh? Hmmmmm.....;-)) Linda, I can't believe HG would even attempt such material. Good grief!

(Lisa)here is one of my favorite Vincent van Gogh paintings. Sorry, I can?t give you the real deal, as I believe it?s at MOMA. Ah yes..."Starry Night". (Lisa are you my long lost....;-) My fave of all time. It does live at MOMA (currently in Queens while MOMA gets a face lift & addition etc). A "must " when in NY. It never travels, but in the interim will be on view in Houston MFA Sept.21-Jan 4. Only US showing. From there goes to Neue Nationalgalerie in Berlin, its only other stop. If anyone wants further info on tickets etc. email me. I already have mine for end of Oct!

Woo woo!! Party Boy! Can you have the beer come through our monitor, Soph? BTW, that shirt has a name, though I don't know who coined it (Mari or Murph would know). It's known as the "fugly" shirt. I think you can figure out what it means, even if you don't read Elle. ;-) (HG) I don't think I can mess it up." (Linda) Betcha you can. [Warning: ECC ahead] Is the guy she's currently sleeping with producing or directing this show?

My talents and skills are limited, A techno guru I'm not. So a rhyme as a gift here is printed, A little more than just a thought. And so this day you are feted, With gifts we can all enjoy. Happy birthday to you KJ, Glad to have met you through ODB.

I don't know who coined it . . . It's known as the "fugly" shirt Hee hee. Three guesses, first syllable is "me." ;-) Love it, Sophie, too funny. Happy Birthday, KJ!

KJ!!!! I would have brought Vermeer with me, but he says he is busy grinding paints at the moment (what I'm trying to say, very inarticulately, is that I am unable to post pics....but would if I could!) Have a great day!!!! (Evelyn) Cute beer greeting, Sophie. But the dreadful K-Mart shirt. Ewwwwww (Sophie) well, to tell you the truth, i really-really like it, in a 50ies revisited kind of way, and i believe it's actually knit (can't believe i'm discussing clothes...) Sophie...I'm with you on this one...I rather like the retro, rock-a-billy, fugly shirt....combined with the wild hair and scruff...that'll do me just fine!! Thanks for the party boy!!!

Heather Graham, 33, will make her New York stage debut this September in the Off-Broadway play "Recent Tragic Events," by Craig Wright, about a blind date on Sept. 12, 2001, reports The New York Times. ..... "but I think this is so well written, I don't think I can mess it up." Is this set in NY? If so, that's already messed up to me, no matter who's in it. A fairy tale no doubt.

(evelyn) But the dreadful K-Mart shirt. Ewwwwww (Sophie) i take it that you don't like it, then ! well, to tell you the truth, i really-really like it, in a 50ies revisited kind of way, and i believe it's actually knit Gawd, knit makes it worse. ;-) (Tress) I would have brought Vermeer with me... I tried to get you a Vermeer, KJ, but it seems the National Gallery of Art has closed it's Dutch Galleries for an installation and didn't have the good sense to leave the 4 Vermeers out. It even surprises the information lady who said I was the 4th person today to ask for the Vermeers. She was unaware of the film GWAPE and had the book for 2 years, but just finished it. Happy Birthday, KJ! I think this is one of the best Tony awards I've ever seen. These people are so bold tonight. Love it! Michelle Pawk summed it up nicely. I love how everyone keeps talking through the orchestra, too.

Lizza, as usual I'm late with the birthday greeting and your present has been waiting somewhat impatiently for me to send him off to you! Happy belated birthday! (keeping fingers crossed this works!)

From Mistress of the Keeps to the birthday girl...just what you wanted! HAPPY BIRTHDAY KJ!

Oh my, the Faygellahs were something else tonight, though I didn't watch them totally. What was with Sarah Jessica Parker's outfit? Looked like one of Cher's hand-me-downs. Hideous! And somebody should slap Joe Mantello, ignoring Christopher Reeves like that. Was MEM there for window dressing during the number? Sorry, but Bernadette Peters was the worst Mama Rose I've ever heard. Damn, why didn't I go see 'Moving Out' when it was here during previews last summer? Buzz was bad, but still Twyla Tharp....nothing better than her choreography.

(HG)"but I think this is so well written, I don't think I can mess it up." ROTFL. That must be one hell of a script! (Dorine)I think this is one of the best Tony awards I've ever seen. These people are so bold tonight. Love it! Michelle Pawk summed it up nicely. I love how everyone keeps talking through the orchestra, too. Me too, on all points! Guess I'm not the only person who loves "Hawvey". He brought down the house. Loved when he said that he was glad that it wasn't a beauty contest. And that Hugh Jackman! Love that hair, flaxen, waxen, shiney Hair!

(Chicago...?)Oh my, the Faygellahs were something else tonight, LOL! Oy vey......are you sure you're not a new yawka?

(Karen) What was with Sarah Jessica Parker's outfit? Looked like one of Cher's hand-me-downs. Hideous! Holy cow! Almost fell out of my chair. You know who wears the pants in that family. No self respecting man (I hope) would let his wife out in that ugly getup....and then stand right next to her to boot......in front of millions of people no less. Sorry, but Bernadette Peters was the worst Mama Rose I've ever heard She didn't sound as bad the night I saw her as she did tonight and that was the best number she had I thought....the showstopper right at the end of the first act. You know she has been missing a bunch of performances with a "respiratory infection" or whatever. ;-) And somebody should slap Joe Mantello, ignoring Christopher Reeves like that. Apparently I tuned out somewhere in this after he announced the winner. Missed that part. but still Twyla Tharp....nothing better than her choreography. Agreed, and for a split second seriously thought of calling for tix after seeing that bit tonight, then decided against anyway. Too many other things I want to see. (Beedee) And that Hugh Jackman! Oooh baby! While I like long hair in general and it on him, have to say I wish they'd cut a few inches off and put something in it to give it a little body. It's bordering on looking unwashed, but that's how straight it is. In fact, I may actually like him with "short" hair. (Karen) Oh my, the Faygellahs were something else tonight, though I didn't watch them totally. They're even more excitable tonight I'm sure. It is their weekend for celebrations.

I realize I should have warned y'all yesterday that I can only get online rather late and this on the West Coast, so sorry I am so late enjoying all the wonderful gifts and wishes. Nita, much gratitude for the cake and the wishes, and also for the lovely Birthday Greetings from Evelyn, FanPam, BeeDee (and Mark D.). Karen Thank you for the good wishes, also to Lizza (awww ... couldn't I share your belated pursed lips present from Ada too ? Just once for old times sake...) Lisa, having seen an example of Colin Ware's attempt at the portrait of Mandy, I'm not so sure I am looking forward to the finished product.. especially since I'm wearing my Birthday suit for it. But on the other hand, it is nice to know that I'll have him around for a nice long time, as "fleshing me out" is quite a heavy-duty project. **Hee hee** Having Henry call while I was still posing was wonderful, though, and I didn't let on about the suit. No point in creating dissention.. Annette, thank you for the beautiful rose; I love white -- so pristine... How did you know I was running short on paints, Moon? (we say "pigments" in the trade...) -- and *so* relieved that I don't have to fall back on grinding my own. Thank you so much!!. Ummm ... Lindak, are those body paints regular or flavored?? (which would add to the fun ;-D ) Sophie, What a wonderful and lively visit from the beloved fugly sweater. And watch what you say about the famous fugly sweater, Evelyn, that thing was actually being modelled for Vogue.. !! (wasn't it by Matsuma or something??) Lisa again. Starry starry night is one of my favorites, thank you for your exquisite taste (in both art and music) Sonia, I was so pleased with your verse. It is so rare having such things attempted, let alone with meter and rhyme (loved the last line that had to be "translated" to accomplish the rhyme. ) Very thoughtful and clever! Tress , thanks for inviting Vermeer to come, but to a dedicated artist like him, making pigments cannot be put off, so I understand. Your brilliant display made up for any disappointment. and Dorine, I don't want you to get into trouble trying to borrow the real thing, even if only for a day. I understand those National Gallery people don't have a very good sense of humor over such things. But as I said, it's the thought that counts.. Ada, for a minute there I was brokenhearted that Mark had preserved his pucker for Lizza, but the corresponding Henry in leather prancing will make up for that. How did you know that that was my most Earnest (Sorry, Ernest...) Birthday wish?! Thank you all for a wonderful celebration! I hope I can do as well for others. Now everybody clean up the champagne and cake leftovers before turning out the light...

Belated happy birthdays to Lizza and K.J. I nearly fell off my chair laughing at SJP's outfit. I thought she had more class than that but I was wrong.

Oops! left out Mari in thanking the throng. Mea Culpa... I'm so ashamed... Anyway, thank you for your lovely thoughts on my natal day.

I din't see the Tonys last night, but I did tune in at the right moment, when they announced the name of my other DB, David: The director of "9"

is that a maternity dress on Livvy??? because I want it! (LOVED it, and I can't find anything remotely nice:() I want to dress with the stars. I watched a bit of the Tonys; thought Hairspray would take it; and they just about did. Harvey F. is a fave of mine. and how the heck does he dance in that dress and heels! (starting to feel very pregnant, Laura)

(Dorine)I wish they'd cut a few inches off and put something in it to give it a little body Those are hair extensions, for Van Helsing. He talks about it in People mag. I was surprised at Hugh, frankly. He seemed to do very little in the way of hosting and his sole reason for being there seemed to be to plug his upcoming play. Tacky, IMO. As for Sarah's dress, hey, there were men full-mouth kissing each other and declaring their undying love while complaining that they couldn't legally marry in the US. Her dress was way tame in comparison.;-) (Karen)And somebody should slap Joe Mantello, ignoring Christopher Reeves like that. A disgrace. He should have greeted him, grasped his hand or somehow indicated that he was glad Chris was there. LOL when Chris said he wasn't that good with opening envelopes; what a classy guy. (Karen)Was MEM there for window dressing during the number? LOL, was that ridiculous or what? As my dad used to say "useless as tits on a bull." ;-) But I did enjoy the show very much. Loved Billy Joel's opening number on the grand piano in the middle of Times Sqaure. Every time he sings New York State of Mind, I cry. Enjoyed Antonio Banderas, too!

(Moon)I din't see the Tonys last night, but I did tune in at the right moment, when they announced the name of my other DB, David Poor David...second time his play has won (other was TRT) and he hasn't. Thought of you Moon. He will be directing Tom Stoppard's "Jumpers" for the National in London starring...(drum roll) Simon Russell Beale (take it way , Lizza)and Essie Davis ..doesn't she play Vermeer's DW? Wow to be in London this summer.KB, RF and now Tom Stoppard. I liked Hugh Jackman at the Tony's. Hey, better than potty-mouth Rosie O'Donnell. Agree that Joe Mantello should be slapped.What an ego. So how about Richard Greenberg winning his first Tony!!Didn't know "Take Me Out" had been short-listed for the Pulitzer.I should have seen it instead of Helen Hunt in Life X 3. Hate to admit it, but the critics were right. Yeay...think Richard Greenberg will now be inspired to bring 3 DOR to B'way? Hairspray and Harvey deserved to win. I saw it 10 days ago and it's a hoot. All the gowns were ugly....sorry fugly.Looked like they came from the sale rack at Loehmann's.

she play Vermeer's DW? ] That's sarcastic, right??? ;)

I liked the bit on the Tony's with McColl and whatsisname... from KB's play.

Crowds flock to cinema, but not to British films Picturegoing hits a 30-year high but UK productions are losing out on the box office bonanza, with not a single one in the top 20 Maev Kennedy, arts and heritage correspondent Friday June 6, 2003 The Guardian British films are in danger of missing the tidal wave of popularity which has swept both cinema attendance and box office receipts to record levels. The most comprehensive survey of cinemagoing in Britain, released yesterday by the Film Council, reveals that although younger people are flocking to the cinema in ever increasing numbers they are overwhelmingly watching films made by the big US studios. No solely British film reached the list of top 20 films released last year, nor the top 20 list for the past 10 years. Among the chart busters are legions of British stars, British writers, British crews and British locations - but virtually all the biggest box office hits were made by American studios, with British interests limited at best to co-production. John Woodward, the Film Council's chief executive, said Britain was already seen internationally as one of the best places in the world to make a film. "The challenge now is to ensure that more quality UK-made films are seen on both large and small screens in the UK and abroad." He described the overall picture - 176m visits to the cinema, the highest for 30 years, more than one in four people in the UK going at least once a week and spending a total of �755m, a 13% increase on the previous year - as encouraging. "Film is an intensely competitive global industry, as well as a cultural activity, which when we get it right promotes the UK all over the world while making a significant contribution to the British economy," he said. Even among the top titles billed as "UK films", which together took �187m on home ground, co-productions dominate. Only Ali G Indahouse, which made it to sixth place, and Anita & Me, and Long Time Dead, at 17th and 18th place, were exclusively British, but they did not get within popcorn chucking distance of the list of the overall top 20. There has been bitter criticism in the past of the quality of lottery-backed films, but several did remarkably well. Two very different and comparatively cheap films were among the year's surprise hits. Bend it Like Beckham, which cost a paltry �2.7m and has so far taken �12.5m in UK box office alone, made it to No 5 on the top UK list, and 18 on the overall list. The film was an UK-German co-production. An even more complicated co-production, the UK-US-German-Italian Gosford Park, which appears in fourth place on the UK list and 17th on the overall list, also had lottery cash towards its �15m cost, which is seen as cheap, since big budget American films routinely cost $100m (�60m). The American domination is even starker on the overall top 20 list, which contains 13 US productions and a further five US co-productions. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, a US-New Zealand co-production, was the top grossing film, taking �56.7m at 501 cinemas. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - UK-US co-produced, but made entirely in Britain - took slightly less, �54.65m, but scooped the record for the biggest ever opening weekend receipts, �18.9m. More than a third of all the films released were in foreign languages, dominated by Hindi films, but together the top 20 foreign language titles only took �11.4m. The report is stuffed with intriguing facts. Men preferred action, science fiction and horror films, while women voted for relationship dramas, romantic comedies and films with a family appeal. Gosford Park was the only film to bridge the gender gap, being admired equally by men and women. Comedies were the most popular genre, taking 26% of the box office. Fantasy, dominated by The Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter, was the second most popular, followed by action movies. The report shows that the average cinemagoer is likely to be young and well off. Cinemagoing is unevenly distributed across age, class and region. Almost 70% of the audience is aged under 35, and Londoners buy a quarter of all cinema tickets. The AB social group accounts for 21% of the population but 28% of ticket sales - and half the audience for Gosford Park, Iris, and The Importance of Being Earnest. But three British films, according to data from the Quarterly Film Monitor commissioned by the Cinema Advertising Association - My Little Eye, Long Time Dead, and Charlotte Gray - got half their audiences from the C1 group, and Dog Soldiers got a particularly successful DE audience share. Figures on the representation of people from ethnic minorities in the film industry are regarded as imprecise, but suggest that the proportion is below the 6.1% level in the national workforce. While 10.9% work in cinema management the largest single group, 22%, is made up of cleaners. None is recorded as working in the rapidly expanding special effects sector. ~~~~~~~~~ Evidently, the entire report can be downloaded here: http://www.filmcouncil.org.uk/usr/downloads/statisticYearbook2002.pdf

.."reveals that although younger people are flocking to the cinema in ever increasing numbers they are overwhelmingly watching films made by the big US studios." Did they need a report to tell them that? Not looking good for Trauma

Me, I want to know what the AB group is. Women over 65? ;-) ~~~~~~~~~~ More excerpts from ScreenDaily: The Film Council was upbeat about the fact that more than one in four people visited the cinema at least once a month in 2002, saying that "we are a nation of cinema-goers". However, it pointed to several disproportionate factors: for the top 20 films at the box-office, 69% of audiences were under 35. Of adults aged over 55, 41% never go to the cinema at all. One unifying factor was comedy, including romantic comedy, which took the biggest box-office share of any single genre with 26.5% from 84 releases, representing 22.8% of all releases. Fantasy was the next most popular with 14.2% from only six films, although the report notes that Harry Potter and Lord Of The Rings substantially inflated the category. Action films were next with 12.5% from 30 releases, while 11 sci-fi films accounted for 11.9% and 12 animated films took 9.4%. The least appealing category to the public was drama. With 128 releases, drama was the most represented category of all, but accounted for just 8.7% of the box-office. Horror performed surprisingly badly, with 13 films accounting for just 7% of the box-office. Romance had only a 0.6% box-office share from 16 titles, although romantic comedies were counted as comedies.

(Beedee) And that Hugh Jackman! (Mari) Those are hair extensions, for Van Helsing. I love long hair on men. I'm thinking Oded Fehr, I'm thinking DDL. But there was something off with Hugh's. Thanks for the explanation Mari. (Karen) What was with Sarah Jessica Parker's outfit? (Dorine)Holy cow! (...)You know who wears the pants in that family. Crikey! I think her dress melted under the stage lights. If she wears the pants in that family, she didn't have them on last night! ;-) I guess it accomplished what she wanted. It was noticed and is/will be talked about. (Karen)And somebody should slap Joe Mantello, ignoring Christopher Reeves like that. So glad I missed that. (Mari) LOL when Chris said he wasn't that good with opening envelopes; what a classy guy. Sorry I missed that. Love the man's wit. (Karen)Sorry, but Bernadette Peters was the worst Mama Rose I've ever heard Not everyone was in fine form last night, like the guy from Movin' Out. :-( (Dorine) I think this is one of the best Tony awards I've ever seen. I agree even with Hugh's self promotion, besides he did an ok job. As he sang in his intro, he's no Billy Crystal. The producers remembered it's about entertainment.

"One unifying factor was comedy, including romantic comedy, which took the biggest box-office share of any single genre with 26.5% from 84 releases, representing 22.8% of all releases." so what did I tell you. Critic reviews mean nothin'! They flock to How to Lose a Guy, MIM,2 Weeks Notice. All US rom-coms. Only WT has the rom-com formula down. "The least appealing category to the public was drama...." "Horror performed surprisingly badly.." If they premiere Trauma or GWAPE over there, he's dead.

(Karen) What was with Sarah Jessica Parker's outfit? Looked like one of Cher's hand-me-downs. Hideous! Hideous certainly is the word for that outfit. Matthew Broderick looked uncomfortable, I wonder if it was the "geek" dialogue or his wife's dress? I know she likes to be outre, but that was awful. And none too flattering when viewed from behind. Must disagree about it being a Cher hand-me-down--Bob Mackie would never let a woman go out on stage looking so bad. (Karen)And somebody should slap Joe Mantello, ignoring Christopher Reeves like that. (Mari) A disgrace. He should have greeted him, grasped his hand or somehow indicated that he was glad Chris was there. LOL when Chris said he wasn't that good with opening envelopes; what a classy guy. A VERY awkward moment. The camera "saved" Mantello by going to a close-up quickly. It must have been worse to watch in person. I'd like to think it was because Mantello didn't know what to do. People often are uncomfortable around someone who's wheelchair bound. Not to say that it's an excuse, but the director should have talked to all the nominees in that category and let them know Chris would be presenting and give them some pointers on how to greet him. It might have been awkward to pick up Chris's hand, shake it, and replace it on the handrest. But there must have been SOMETHING gracious Mantello could have done--just walk up to him and say thank you would have been better. Chris is a vlass act and deserves better. It was harder to watch that moment than some of the scenes in Joe Egg. Still, I'm happy for Mantello and Greenberg, and also Denis O'Hare, who is my favorite "Law & Order Irregular." I told you ladies that "Take Me Out" was worth seeing! (Evelyn) Yeay...think Richard Greenberg will now be inspired to bring 3 DOR to B'way? I hope so! I know it's sacrilege to not want to see ODB reprise his role, but I'd like to see 3 DOR with a different cast so that I'd pay attention to all three characters. I've seen four Greenberg plays and I liked 3 DOR best. Sorry to disagree with the lovers of long locks, but I hated Jackman's hair. Wanted to messsenger over a bottle of shampoo. (Sonia)I agree even with Hugh's self promotion, besides he [Jackman] did an ok job. As he sang in his intro, he's no Billy Crystal. The producers remembered it's about entertainment. I thought Jackman was an odd choice to host the Tony ceremony when he hasn't been on Broadway (I did know about the upcoming role, but he hasn't done it YET). And I thought there was a bit too much promotion. My first thought was, does CBS have some money in the play? Yes, it's about entertainment, but I have a problem with the "we did these awards earlier" segment. Alan Cumming was fine presenting this (why didn't they ask him to host?), and I know that most people watching on TV don't care about the lighting and scenery. Fine. But I do think a lifetime achievement award belongs in the televised portion of the program. Cy Feuer is 90-something and he produced and/or directed a lot of plays in his career. If they're going to honor him, it should be in the broadcast part of the show. Heck, they made us sit through Langella's patronizing explanation of the boring stuff that usually sends him to the refrigerator...

Just read on CNN that Sam Mendes and Kate Winslet were married last month.

(Mari), As for Sarah's dress, hey, there were men full-mouth kissing each other and declaring their undying love while complaining that they couldn't legally marry in the US. Her dress was way tame in comparison.;-) Very well said! (Evelyn),Poor David...second time his play has won (other was TRT) and he hasn't. Thought of you Moon. Thanks, Ev! He is the one responsible for the revival, it was his vision, he changed it, he convinced Banderas to do it, etc. etc. Poor David! He will be directing Tom Stoppard's "Jumpers" for the National in London starring...(drum roll) Simon Russell Beale (take it way , Lizza)and Essie Davis ..doesn't she play Vermeer's DW? I need to get the dates. Would love to be there for the dress rehearsal. ;-D

This refers to FF, please excuse the OT. I hope the archives will be kept. Maybe with a link from the main page? Those stories are lots of fun. Would hate to lose them. I actually came over to drool originally because of FF. So I say sweet dreams and faretheewell. Rika, please send me the updates. Thank you!

(Kate) Bob Mackie would never let a woman go out on stage looking so bad. So you don't remember the black see-through thing with the headdress that she wore to the Oscars many years ago. That was my first thought when seeing SJP's outfit. That they shortened Cher's.

(Evelyn)If they premiere Trauma or GWAPE over there, he's dead. LOL, you have such a way with words:-) ...lets hope they learned a lesson or two from HS...

(Mari) As for Sarah's dress, hey, there were men full-mouth kissing each other and declaring their undying love while complaining that they couldn't legally marry in the US. Her dress was way tame in comparison.;-) "Tame",yes, but the boys were more interesting and knew how to dress. ;-) Loved Billy Joel's opening number on the grand piano Thought he sounded better than he had in a long time. Like to say rehab must have done him good, but that may not be entirely accurate. the C1 group, and DE audience share. And what are these? (Mari) Those are hair extensions, for Van Helsing. (Sonia) I love long hair on men. I'm thinking Oded Fehr, I'm thinking DDL Thanks, Mari. Don't keep up with People unless I'm kept waiting in one of my office calls. Couldn't they find him some extensions that look washed or moussed? ;-) Excellent choices Sonia! (Kate) And none too flattering when viewed from behind Even worse than the front. And I thought there was a bit too much promotion I didn't mind HJ's plugs at first, but it did get old and almost tacky. (Laura) I liked the bit on the Tony's with McColl and whatsisname... from KB's play. If you see their play don't sit in the front row....you'll end up with a stiff neck from looking almost straight up at the high stage and take an umbrella if you don't want a spit shower. ;-)

An interesting article about Anna Chancellor. CF's been mentioned in it: When she told Colin Firth (her co-star in Pride and Prejudice and in the forthcoming comedy film What a Girl Wants) that she and Redha [Note: her lover, an ex-cab driver] were an item, he made a blokeish comment about having to watch out for a whole new set of rivals, including the pizza delivery man. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2003/06/10/banna10.xml&sSheet=/arts/2003/06/10/ixartleft.html

Not sure why this was put on O&E... Anyway, thanks, Josie. I think this is good evidence of Colin's wicked sense of humor.

Ooops, again, my ignorance. I suppose O&E is for non-CF-related news. The article has only a very brief mention of Colin, so I'm not sure if it should be put on #176 either.

Thanks, Josie...I very much enjoyed that. I've always enjoyed AC's wicked witch performances.

Thanks Josie. I think that AC is a fun character on film and in her life. I enjoyed reading the article on her someone (sorry)linked here a while back for Tipping the Velvet. I'm often ignorant re: where to post! I'll sit here in front of my screen having silly discussions with myself arguing the pros and cons. I guess even a passing mention of ODB will go to Firthology. We live to learn;-)

(Linda) Thanks, Josie...I very much enjoyed that. I've always enjoyed AC's wicked witch performances. (BeeDee) Thanks Josie. I think that AC is a fun character on film and in her life. You both took the words right out of my mouth. AC is PDC, imo. Thanks for the link, Josie.

(Beedee) I'm often ignorant re: where to post!...I guess even a passing mention of ODB will go to Firthology. No, it would've gone on Colin Firth News. The litmus test: Is this new? Is this about a current project? The article is part of an early publicity campaign for the UK release of WAGW, just as UK reviews of WAGW (*shuddering*) will go up on that topic when it is released there. The way Josie posted it, highlighting the part relating to Colin, with a link to the full article is precisely how it should be done. (gold star for presentation though on wrong topic). I expect someone else, who doesn't read this topic, to post it again on CF.

It's playing right now at the Steppenwolf and has been extended. I completely forgot about this one: Greenberg's 'Violet Hour' Set for Fall NEW YORK - Playwright Richard Greenberg, whose baseball drama "Take Me Out" won the 2003 Tony Award for best play, has a new work set for Broadway in the fall. "The Violet Hour" will star Robert Sean Leonard, Jasmine Guy, Mario Cantone, Laura Benanti and Scott Foley, best known for his role on the television series "Felicity." The play, set in 1919, concerns a young publisher and a machine that could change his future. "The Violet Hour" will open the Manhattan Theatre Club's Broadway season at the Biltmore Theatre, which the company is in the process of renovating. The play begins preview performances at the Biltmore on Oct. 16 with an opening set for Nov. 6.

(Beedee-me) I'm often ignorant re: where to post!...I guess even a passing mention of ODB will go to Firthology. (Karen)No, it would've gone on Colin Firth News. The litmus test: Is this new? Is this about a current project? It's off to Drool *Summer School* for me;-)) Ya'll know I would have come for the extra credit anyway!

(Beedee) It's off to Drool *Summer School* for me;-)) Ya'll know I would have come for the extra credit anyway! LOL!! Hello my classmate!;-) And Karen, thank you very much for your explanation and continuous patience with me.;-)

I wonder how I can continue with what I don't have? ;-)

oh no, no, no...you do have, you do. You've always been a good teacher, "Ms Hughes!" ;-)

(Karen)I wonder how I can continue with what I don't have? ;-) You've put up with me for over a year, now. I call that patience.

(Kate) Bob Mackie would never let a woman go out on stage looking so bad. (Karen) So you don't remember the black see-through thing with the headdress that she wore to the Oscars many years ago. That was my first thought when seeing SJP's outfit. That they shortened Cher's. I do remember it. Great for the stage, tacky for an awards show. However, Cher's version had sequins and feathers, which make up for a multitude of other sins. :-)) (Karen)"The Violet Hour" [by Greenberg] will open the Manhattan Theatre Club's Broadway season at the Biltmore Theatre thanks for posting this, I'll watch for ticket opportunities. MTC has produced a lot of good stuff lately.

"Playwright Richard Greenberg, whose baseball drama "Take Me Out" won the 2003 Tony Award for best play" And you know what else???? We forgot to congratulate the gang at the Donmar one of the producers!! How quickly we forget about The Temple ;-))

I thought he did thank the Donmar???

Hurry, hurry! Anyone that wants to see Baz Luhrman's La Boheme on B'way better go by June 29th. It's closing.

(Dorine)Hurry, hurry! Anyone that wants to see Baz Luhrman's La Boheme on B'way better go by June 29th. It's closing. I wonder if other "non-winners" will close now. Everyone wants to see the Tony winner. Gypsy won't close, though. People will buy tickets on the strength of the star. (They should have showcased a different number for the Tonys though) I saw Gypsy last night. When Bernadette made her entrance, the audience went wild, like they were trying to say "we still love you even if you didn't win the Tony." I don't think I've ever seen Gypsy live, and I liked it. Before I saw it, I had wondered if part of the critics' negative comments on Mama were the result of Bernadette being too small for the part. Other Mamas have been tall women who had played a lot of strong parts--Merman, Rosalind Russell (in the movie), Tyne Daly, Angela Lansbury (forget Jessica Fletcher). If you're small and act pushy, you can come off shrewish rather than strong/forceful. But she didn't seem shrewish, so I don't know why some critics said she was wrong for the role. My main complaint was that she didn't relate to the other characters enough. Played to the audience all the time, even in scenes where the story didn't include an audience. This, I think, would be a complaint about the direction, not about Bernadette. It may have been done to emphasize Mama's need for an audience, but it made her distant from the other characters, and when she hugged one of her daughters, that action seemed out of character. But, although she seemed to still be fighting a cold, she sounded great. They kept some of the original Robbins choreography, including "All I Need Is the Girl." This is one of my favorite moments in the story, and I was disappointed because Louise wasn't as wistful as she should be. I didn't think the actress who played Louise really stepped up to the plate emotionally until she was pushed onto the stage at the burlesque house. Then, her evolution from a scared novice to a confident star was impressive. One rather haunting thing about the production is that Tammy Blanchard (Louise) sounded just like Natalie Wood, and I kept thinking of the movie. That was a bit distracting. Has anyone else seen it? I'd be curious to hear other impressions. BTW, If you're planning to go, one bit of advice--spend the money to be near the front, especially in the Mezzanine. The Shubert has low ceilings where one tier overhangs another. We had third row Mezz, and it was fine. One you're back a few rows more, it feels a bit close. And about halfway back in the orchestra (maybe a bit more), you get the low ceiling because of the Mezz over you.

Cash boost for British films The UK Film Council is launching a �1 million campaign to help the British movie industry. The aim is to give low budget films a boost by ensuring more copies are available to cinemas. Individual copies can cost up to �1,000 each, which is often a prohibitive expense for many companies. This can mean some movies only make it to art houses months after the release date. The majority of UK films are released with just 70 copies, whereas blockbusters like the Harry Potter films will number up to 1,000. Companies can now apply for up to �300,000 from the fund, which will essentially act as a cushion to minimise losses if they invest heavily in marketing and extra prints and the film proves to be a flop. Cash from the UK Film Distribution Programme will depend upon how well a film performs, with support from the fund reducing as UK box office takings rise. Peter Buckingham, the UK Film Council's head of distribution, said: "This programme will help to showcase the work of new and existing UK filmmakers, and give UK audiences greater choice and more chance to see entertaining, distinctively British films."

"Cash boost for British films" TV could use some too. Anybody watching "Keen Eddie" on Fox, Tuesday night? Cute series.American detective on loan to Scotland yard.Interestingly, several of us were at the Borough Market (near Bridget's flat & pub ) where we saw the pilot being filmed. Also Mystery Monday on BBC America is excellent.

(Karen's post)Companies can now apply for up to �300,000 from the fund, which will essentially act as a cushion to minimise losses if they invest heavily in marketing and extra prints and the film proves to be a flop. Maybe having a few more prints out there could build word-of-mouth for some films--at least those films that will get GOOD word-of-mouth. Yes, Ev, I'm watching Keen Eddie. (Still haven't watched my tape of Tues.) I did recognize the Borough Market area. How much of the filming did you get to see? Did you know in advance that something would be shooting there, or was it just luck? I checked that link you posted last week about filming in London, but I couldn't find anything on who/where/when. Do you have another source of info? I also recognized Leadenhall Market (where he was almost hit by a bus in the first episode). I thought there wasn't any vehicular traffic in Leadenhall, so it seemed weird to see a bus there. But I'm sure it was Leadenhall because I could see the "carbuncle" Lloyds builing in one shot.

I LOVE Keen Eddie; was thrilled that Julian Rhind-Tutt is his partner!

(Kate) How much of the filming did you get to see? A few minutes.Filming is sloooow -going. It was only a pilot (spoke to nurse on the set who also had been on the BJD set and gave us the skinny on that ;-), and we never thought we'd see it over here. Did you know in advance that something would be shooting there, or was it just luck? Luck. We went there on a Sunday morn per Mark's instructions for the Bridget Tour. "The Greek restaurant" was across the street (now a posh art gallery), and the street of the "fight" is around the corner from the pub where Bridge met her friends. I checked that link you posted last week about filming in London, but I couldn't find anything on who/where/when. Do you have another source of info? Hmmmm. They used to post that stuff. Haven't gone there in a while.

Karen, thanks for the informative article. (Karen) The majority of UK films are released with just 70 copies, whereas blockbusters like the Harry Potter films will number up to 1,000. (Kate) Maybe having a few more prints out there could build word-of-mouth for some films And a few more prints would also mean more venues. You tend to think twice about seeing a movie when it takes you as long (or longer) to get to the cinema than to sit and watch the film. (Evelyn) Also Mystery Monday on BBC America is excellent. I've become a fan of a lot of shows on BBC America. Glad it's part of my cable package.

Just heard that one of my all-time faves, Gregory Peck, has died at age 87. A splendid actor and a true gentleman. So many memorable parts--To Kill A Mockingbird, Gentlemen's Agreement, Twelve O'Clock High, Roman Hioliday . . and so many more. RIP, dear Peck.

Oh my, he was indeed a splendid actor, gentleman and quite the looker...if I do say so myself.

(Karen)Oh my, he was indeed a splendid actor, gentleman and quite the looker...if I do say so myself. Exactly!

(Mari) many memorable parts--To Kill A Mockingbird...RIP, dear Peck. Karen)Oh my, he was indeed a splendid actor, gentleman and quite the looker... He seemed like integrity and dignity personified. What a wonderful actor. Caught the tail end of the AFI Heroes/Villains special where Addicus Finch was chosen as no. 1 hero. Can't imagine anyone better for the part. RIP, indeed.

(Sonia) Caught the tail end of the AFI Heroes/Villains special where Addicus Finch was chosen as no. 1 hero. Can't imagine anyone better for the part. RIP, indeed. Sad news....To Kill a Mockingbird is one of my all time favorite films. He was a wonderful actor...great voice.

So sorry to hear about GP. Saw a documentary on him not too long ago. He was still active and lecturing at colleges and universities on the film industry. What an actor and what a looker. He will be missed. Thank you for all the interesting articles ladies.

Sorry to hear about Gregory Peck. Great actor. This was listet at TVGuide today (sorry - don't have the link to paste): CLASS ACT: Miramax will unspool a new version of Chicago in theaters next month to hype the musical's August DVD release, Variety reports. The re-release will feature a song-and-dance number cut from the original. We're betting it's "Class," the axed duet between Queen Latifah and Catherine Zeta-Jones.

I was sad to hear about Gregory Peck. But an obit I read said he died peacefully at home, so at least it wasn't a horrible suffering end. He was a gentleman, class act all the way. I saw the end of the AFI thing, too. Finch is a wonderful character, but I wonder if that would have been the number 1 hero without Peck's performance? Annette)The [Chicago] re-release will feature a song-and-dance number cut from the original. Oh, good! I had hoped to get another chance at seeing this on the big screen. I wouldn't think the added number would be "Class," because it doesn't sound like a dance number. What about "We Move On" which was played over the credits and got an oscar nom? (I think it was played over the credits) I play the Chicago CD in my car and now that we get the occasional sunny day when I can put the top down, I skip over "Class" because I realize that people can hear what I'm playing. (I also have an unfortunate tendency to sing along with music in the car)

(Kate) I wouldn't think the added number would be "Class," because it doesn't sound like a dance number. May not be a dance number, but it had been filmed, then cut before release with the intention of putting it on the DVD.

(Kate) I wonder if other "non-winners" will close now. Frog and Toad (don't remember the whole/correct title) and The Play What I Wrote for starters, that I can think of offhand. Gypsy won't close, though. (They should have showcased a different number for the Tonys though) I thought to show her off it was one of her strongest, if not her strongest song during Gypsy. (I didn't think she sang all that great consistently on the Tonys.) The showstopper for her judging by the audience reaction, when I saw it anyway. Maybe people were sooooo enthusiastic knowing it was being filmed by CBS or PBS, I think. I didn't think the actress who played Louise really stepped up to the plate emotionally until she was pushed onto the stage at the burlesque house. Then, her evolution from a scared novice to a confident star was impressive. I thought the exact same thing and mentioned this to someone, though not quite so articulately. :-) If you're planning to go, one bit of advice--spend the money to be near the front, especially in the Mezzanine. I had 2nd row center Orch. Might actually have preferred a bit further back to have better perspective on the action onstage as a whole. I enjoyed the relative simplicity/flexibility of the sets, though. I enjoyed it, but didn't think it deserved any Tony's for BP or anything/one else. Also, have thought other things I've seen in the last year were more worth the *high* ticket price. Hairspray and Long Day's Journey to start. I was thinking mixed reviews would be appropriate and they were for the most part with more praise for BP than I would think she should have. The woman next to me called someone on her cell as we walked out and said she thought BP was "spectacularly miscast". Don't agree with that harsh statement. Was skeptical at first that I was going to enjoy it as I was thoroughly annoyed by that girl who played Baby June. Everything about her was grating. Was disturbed by the strobe effect used in the scene to transition the kids in age. I was disturbed on 2 levels....1, it was uncomfortable personally for me to watch (bothered my eyes), and 2, as a former healthcare worker, I was dismayed at the thought that there were no (as far as I could tell) disclaimers regarding the use of a strobe light, which can induce seizures in epileptics. Maybe they used a different type of light or intensity if that would make a difference.

Birthday update: As I mentioned in a post about a week ago, Moon's birthday is tomorrow (6/14). Here are the rest of the June birthdays: BeeDee - June 17 Pam - June 19 Leah - June 30

(Dorine)I had 2nd row center Orch. Might actually have preferred a bit further back to have better perspective on the action onstage as a whole. I go for Mezz because I hate looking up from so close. I'll bet the strobes really bothered you from there! I closed my eyes and just peeked from time to time. Too bad it was so bright, because the use of that scene to do the transition was clever. (Was supposedly part of the original choreography. bet Jerome Robbins didn't do it with the strobes) I had the same thought about the danger of strobes, but I just assumed I had missed the warning signs on my way in. Odd not to post a warning becuase theaters usually do post signs about strobes and such (also warning about nudity at take me out). Kate) I wouldn't think the added number would be "Class," because it doesn't sound like a dance number. (Dorine) May not be a dance number, but it had been filmed, then cut before release with the intention of putting it on the DVD. I knew that "class" had been cut. Assumed the same was true of "we move on." Nothing filmed for "we move on" then?

Happy Birthday Moon. Gregory Peck was a great person as well as a great actor. One of my favorites was The Scarlet and The Black. A true story about a priest in the vatican who smuggled people out of Italy to save them from Christopher Plummer who was the German General who held Rome in his hands during WW 2.

Good Morning Moon! I'm going to have a busy Saturday so I'm coming at you early with And with the kind permission of Murph here's a *come on* from the stubble king!: Does it get any better than that? Have a great day!

Oops! It was supposed to be.....

Time to Parteeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

Hello, Moon. Jeffrey Archer here. Let�s not stand on formality--just call me Milord and I�m certain we�ll get on infamously�er, I mean famously. Har. Har. Bugger, I thought this was a fancy dress party and came straight from the Chamber. Where are all the other Lords? Wait until I get my hands on Rushdie and Julian Barnes. Have you seen either of them? Moon, what a fabulous party. I see that Jeffrey was already chatting you up. Watch yourself with him. I�ve been trying to work up the nerve to ask you a question: Do you know where the toilets are? You don�t. Ah, well, in that case�have you read any good books lately? Dear Moon, please call me Julian. I�ve been looking forward to our little t�te-�-t�te. As I was saying to F.R. Leavis the other day, the demise of the post-modern novel can be traced to�Sorry? Yes, that�s right, the F.R. Leavis�. Dead? For how long? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck! Happy Birthday, Moon, from three of your most ardent admirers who are the intellectual equals of everyone else here.

Heard you were asking for me, darlin�, even though I haven�t got an effin� clue who you are. But I heard it was your effin� Birthday and that the bar was open. *belch* What in the eff does a bloke got to do around here to get a effin� pint? *cough, cough�.wheeze* Butt out, you dipsomaniac Colin wannabe! Moon�s mine, and she was looking for feral Colin not Colin Farrell. Happy Birthday, my own dear Moon.

Since I am notoriously late getting online at night, I thought I'd preempt myself... Even though it is somewhat past the season, here is a floral tribute to a Drooler who will always be "Younger than Springtime"...

Happy Birthday, Moon! I was prepared to drop everything and come to your party . . .

. . . and show you what a stand-up guy I am . . . But then I heard you like me best in clothes, period, so I won't. http://www.erasofelegance.com/pppic20.jpg Idiot, that's period clothes!

Am prepping for your next visit, mi amore Luna!

Happy Birthday, Moon!

Glad to see the party has started early! It looks like it's going to be a great one! Another round of champagne everyone. Make it mimosas at this time. :-D I'm off to dance with my sweet Geoffrey. I see Archie and Rushdie have crashed the party with a ghost writer. ;-) And thank you feral Colin for getting rid of that Farrell slob. :-) Now about your stubble carissimo Colin, as great as you look, you know I prefer stubble-free kisses so after Trauma off it goes. ;-) "But then I heard you like me best in clothes, period, so I won't drop them". But Darcy dear, it's more fun when you have so much more to take off. It's a great tension builder too. ;-))) So happy that my Italian neighbor George dropped in. Just wait till I catch him at home. Vrrrrooommmm, his bike makes more noise than his boat. ;-) Thank you, Lucie, Beedee, LisaJH, Karen and Mari! KJ, I am tiptoeing through those tulips, thank you! Josie, those happy faces are very cheerful as we are today, thank you! Off to mix more mimosas. :-)

I'm sorry, did you say it was Moon's birthday party? Do you think I have time to change? I can't have her see me like this.. Wot? What's the matter with it?...Oh alright, only for my Moon..Maybe that little Italian tailor around the corner could help... Better? No, no, you're right, Moon deserves only the very best... But I must have her promise to help me out of this suit as soon as the party is over! Happy Happy Birthday Moon Dreams!!

Moon, I bring you greetings from a woman I know you admire greatly

Oh my dear Vermeer, I want you period! LOL! And Marie cherie, think of your lovely necklaces first and never give away my birthday cake. ;-D Thank you, Maria! How can I bare it all? ;-) Beck just popped in to perform for us. Enjoy!

Moon!!! I heard that there was a party going on here....and knew that you had started yesterday with Cosmos....well.....I couldn't find all the ingredients for that, but I did whip up some martinis..... Wot? Too early for martinis??! It's time for breakfast?? Damn! I knew I should have picked up those twenty donuts...will this do??? Party On Droolers!!"

Wishing to Moon that all her dreams come true on her birthday! HAVE A VERY VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Moon, in honor of your birthday, I thought I�d bring back a tradition that Marcia used to post for Drool�s birthday gals (I don�t have any good leis to speak of, however;-)): Your birthday horoscope (from the Washington Post): IF JUNE 14 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you are very much a mental person but can be very emotional too. The full moon at dawn on your birthday promises an unusual and successful year. As for investments and speculation, stay with bricks and mortar. Your success depends on how serious your focus is. You're in a number seven year; seek answers through reading religious or theosophical literature. *********************************************** 14 June Birthdays: 1736 Charles-Augustin de Coulomb physicist (formulated Coulomb's Law) 1811 Harriet Beecher Stowe author (Uncle Tom's Cabin) 1820 John Bartlett US, editor (compiled Familiar Quotations) 1855 Robert Marion La Follette Wisconsin, pres candidate (Progressive) 1856 Andrey Markov Russia, mathematician (Markov Chain) 1864 Alois Alzheimer Germany, psychiatrist/pathologist (Alzheimer Disease) 1868 Karl Landsteiner immunologist/pathologist (Nobel 1930) 1874 Edward Bowes radio host (Major Bowes Amateur Hour) 19-- Andy Christell rocker (Electric Boys-Funk-o-metal Carpet Ride) 19-- Chris DeGarmo rock guitarist (Queensr�che-The Warning) 19-- Jorge Rivero Mexico, actor (Priest of Love, Last Hard Men) 19-- Kim Lankford Montebello Calif, actress (Gingers-Knots Landing) 19-- Rosa Langschwadt actress (Cecily Davidson-All My Children) 19-- Trish Stewart Hot Springs Ark, actress (Melanmie-Salvage 1) 19-- Yasmine Bleeth actress (Ryan's Hope) 1906 Carl Esmond Wien (Vienna) Austria, actor (Smash-Up) 1906 Gil Lamb Minneapolis, actor (Hit Parade of 1947, Riding High) 1908 John Scott Trotter Charlotte NC, orch leader (George Gobel Show) 1909 Burl Ives Hunt Ill, folk singer/actor (Cat on a Hot Tin Roof) 1910 Rudolf Kempe Niederpoyritz Germany, conductor (Tonhalle Orch 1965-72) 1917 Lash La Rue Gretna La, cowboy actor (Lash of the West, Wyatt Earp) 1918 Dorothy McGuire Omaha Neb, actress (Old Yeller, Summer Magic) 1919 Sam Wanamaker Chic Ill, actor (Holocaust, Competition, Raw Deal) 1921 Gene Barry NYC, actor (Bat Masterson, Name of the Game, Burke's Law) 1925 Pierre Salinger newsman (ABC)/press secretary (John Kennedy) 1928 Ernesto (Che) Guevara Latin American revolutionary 1929 Cy Coleman [Seymour Kaufman], songwriter (Witchcraft, Sweet Charity) 1931 Marla Gibbs Chicago Ill, actress (Florence-Jeffersons, Mary-227) 1933 Jerzy Kosinski novelist (Painted Bird, Being There) 1940 Ben Davidson LA Calif, actor (Rhino-Ball Four, Code R) 1940 Jack Bannon LA Calif, actor (Art-Lou Grant, Trauma Center) 1943 Muff Mervyn Winwood singer (Spencer Davis Group-Gimme Some Lovin) 1946 Donald Trump master builder (Trump Towers/Plaza/Castle) 1946 Ralph McAllister Ingersol II NYC, newspaper publisher 1949 Bob Frankston programmer (VisiCalc) 1949 Rochelle Firestone Kansas City MO, actress (Hellhole) 1952 Eddie Mekka Worcester Mass, actor (Carmine-Laverne & Shirley) 1954 Will Patton Charleston SC, actor (No Way Out, Ballzaire the Cajun) 1958 Carina Persson Stockholm Sweden, playmate (August, 1983) 1958 Eric Heiden Wisc, .5/1/1.5/5/10K speed skater (Olympic-5 golds-1980) 1961 Boy George O'Dowd androgynous rock musician & druggie (Culture Club) 1969 Steffi Graf West Germany, tennis player (Grand Slam 1988) 1970 Simone Fleurice Eden Arcadia Ca, playmate (Feb, 1989) 2160 Montgomery Edward Scott Aberdeen, Scotland (Star Trek) On this day... 1623 1st breach-of-promise lawsuit: Rev Gerville Pooley, Va files against Cicely Jordan. He loses 1642 1st compulsory education law in America passed by Massachusetts 1775 US Army founded 1777 Continental Congress adopts Stars & Stripes replacing Grand Union flag 1834 Hardhat diving suit patented by Leonard Norcross, Dixfield, Maine 1834 Sandpaper patented by Isaac Fischer Jr, Springfield, Vermont 1841 1st Canadian parliament opens in Kingston, Ontario 1846 California (Bear Flag) Republic proclaimed in Sonoma 1847 Bunson invents a gas burner. Lab teachers celebrate worldwide 1850 Fire destroys part of SF 1863 Battle of 2nd Winchester, Virginia 1864 Battle of Pine Mt, Gen Leonidas Polk killed in action 1870 All-pro Cincinnati Red Stockings suffer 1st loss in 130 games 1876 1st player to hit for the cycle (George Hall, Phila Athletics) 1876 California Street Cable Car Railroad Co gets its franchise 1881 Player piano patented by John McTammany, Jr, Cambridge, Mass 1900 Hawaiian Republic becomes the US Territory of Hawaii 1906 J H Metcalf discovers asteroid #600 Musa 1917 Gen Pershing & his HQ staff arrived in Paris during WW I 1919 1st nonstop air crossing of Atlantic (Alcock & Brown) leaves Nfld 1923 Pres Harding is 1st US president to use radio, dedicating the Francis Scott Key memorial in Baltimore 1924 WOKO-AM radio begins transmitting from Albany NY 1928 Republican Natl Convention, met in KC, nominated Herbert Hoover 1931 French "St Philbert" overturned off St Nazaire France, drowns 450 1934 Max Baer KO's Primo Carnera in 11 for HW box champ in Long Island City 1934 WOQ-AM in KC Missouri goes off the air 1935 Chaco War between Bolivia & Paraguay ends 1936 C Jackson discovers asteroid #1490 Limpopo 1938 Chlorophyll patented by Benjamin Grushkin 1938 Dorothy Lathrop wins the 1st Caldecott Medal (kid books author) 1940 German forces occupied Paris during WW II 1941 Ground broken for Boeing Plant II (ex-AFLC Plant 13) Wichita KS 1942 1st bazooka rocket gun produced Bridgeport Ct 1942 Walt Disney's "Bambi" is released 1944 1st B-29 raid against mainland Japan 1945 Rod Argent, rocker (The Zombies-Never Even Thought) 1946 Canadian Library Association established 1949 State of Vietnam formed 1951 1st commercial computer, UNIVAC 1, enters service at Census Bureau 1952 Keel laid for 1st nuclear powered sub the Nautilus 1953 Elvis Presley graduates from LC Humes High School in Memphis, Tenn 1953 Yanks sweep Indians 6-2, 3-0 before 74,708 win streak at 18 straight 1954 Pres Eisenhower signs order adding words "under God" to the Pledge 1961 106�F, hottest temperature in San Francisco 1963 Valery Bykovsky in Vostok 5 orbits earth 81 times in 5 days 1965 Beatles release the album "Beatles VI" 1965 Cincinatti Red Jim Maloney no-hits NY Mets but loses in 11, 1-0 1965 John Lennon's 2nd book "A Spaniard in the Works" is published 1967 Launch of Mariner V for Venus fly-by 1967 USSR launches Kosmos 166 for observation of Sun from Earth orbit 1969 John & Yoko appear on David Frost's British TV Show 1970 Cincinatti Red Stockings loses 1st game after winning 130 straight 1975 Janis Ian releases "At 17" 1975 USSR launches Venera 10 for Venus landing 1976 "Gong Show" premieres on TV (syndication) 1976 12th Mayor's Trophy Game Yanks beat Mets 8-4 1978 Down 9-7 in 10th with 2 outs, Yanks Paul Blair hits a 3 run HR 1979 Rock group "Little Feat" disbands 1980 E Bowell discovers asteroid #2937 Gibbs, #2938 Hopi & #3160 Angerhofer 1982 Argentina surrenders to Britain on Falkland Is, ends 74-day conflict 1983 5 killed in a fire at a Ramada Inn in Fort Worth, Tx 1985 Lebanese Shiite Moslem gunmen hijack TWA 847 after Athens' takeoff 1987 4th full-duration test firing of redesigned SRB motor 1987 LA Lakers win NBA title with a 106-93, victory over the Celtics 1989 Ground breaking begins in Minn on the world's largest mall 1989 Nolan Ryan becomes 2nd pitcher to defeat all 26 teams 1989 Pistons sweep LA for NBA title, Kareem Abdul Jabber's final NBA game 1989 Rocker Carol King gets a star in Hollywood's walk of fame 1990 Detroit Pistons beat Portland, 4 games to 1 for NBA championship 1991 Leroy Burrell of USA sets the 100m record (9.90) in NYC 1991 Space Shuttle STS 40 (Columbia 12) lands

Thanks, for those "Bombay Saphire dry" martinis, Tress.I've got plenty of olives too. We've moved on to the lunch time. ;-) Ada, thank you! Dear Henry and I have had such lovely times in that Rolls, my keepsake. :-) 1965 Beatles release the album "Beatles VI" It just had to be! :-) Thanks fo the list and horoscope, LisaJH! am expecting a big full moon celebration today. How can I forget that cutie Che who shares my birthday?

Celebrate the day, Moon -- Murph

Okay, I have my period costume on... now must rush over to Moon's party... ...and jump right into the fun! Happy Birthday, Moon!

Happy, Happy Birthday to you, Moon! Hopefully by your next birthday I'll have this graphics posting figured out;-). Enjoy the mimosas. I'm toasting you with one now.

Moon, I know you prefer that Clifford chap. Crikey, (he gives new meaning to The Dead Wait) don't let him entice you with that Mile High Club stuff. We know what happened the last time he tried flying. So,... Hop on, and hold me tight. I've found some great classes for us to attend. Here is our schedule ...And after you've helped me with my homework...we can use up all of these coupons... I'm waiting for you, Moon Dreams...Happy Birthday.

Suffice to say we party today With Cosmos and I know not wot. I must have my say, fun�s here to stay For Moon Dreams we have got. To you dear lady, gifts none too shabby, Pictures of YKW. Vermeer, Darcy, and even HD! Happy Birthday to you, Moon.

I like it, thank you, Sonia! Oh, thank you, linda, those are actually from my kissing lessons gift to Colin! What memories you bring back. I'm off to see if Henry has learned. ;-) I think Mathew could use a little skinny diping, I'll take care of it, thanks Rika! Thanks, Murph, you know he never misses my celebrations. He's just a little confused because he's not used to all this drinking anymore. Look who's here ladies. For our listening pleasure, here's more music. I present Damien Rice. Go to the site and listen. Enjoy! http://www.damienrice.com/website/sound_library.htm

BUON COMPLEANNO..... A tiara for our PRINCIPESSA.....

From your admirer...Silvio

Happy Birthday , dearest Moon... You are my ... MUSE Love Always DAVID

From your admirer...Silvio

BUON COMPLEANNO..... A tiara for our PRINCIPESSA.....

Since Moon shares a birthday with Boy George (thank you LisaJH), I knew he'd want to come here personally to celebrate with Moon. Moon, we're going shopping in the morning to return everything we didn't like and buy something smashling, darling.

And here it is...

Happy Birthday, Moon I can see, you have been partying with a beautiful crowd of both men (or should I say man) and women ;-) Enjoy your party! I couldn't find any roses with your name, but found this one, which is nick-named Moonflower, where I come from:

ah, moon, i can see you're more the 'swinging martini & suit' kind of girl... no trauma for you, well, i've got news : dear peter has been expecting you all day. he was a bit gloomy that you didn't call, but i'm sure if you pay him a visit, he'll cheer up eventually... animatronicolin 1.5, as suave as they get a very happy birthday to you ! *warning : 112 ko file*

Boy G and moi?! Now here are two people that I guarantee will not have the same taste in fashion, make-up maybe, but not fashion. I scarry thought, Karen, LOL! Evelyn, cosa posso dire? I love the tiara, and the fit is just right, grazie mille dal cuore. :-) Of course, you've made my night by including me as David's muse. This is a job I happily fulfill. And Silvio caro. I hope all is going as planned for tomorrow's Articolo 18 vote. Forza Milan!!!

Merci beaucoup, Sophie! I am happy to liven up dear old boy Peter. We'll be dancing soon too. Annette, lovely and delicate flower, thank you! I just put one on my tiara, this might just start a trend. :-) Karen, how many Cosmos have you had? Mmmm, delish.

ROTF, Karen! I will assume he's referring to George Clooney. ;-)

(Moon) Boy G and moi?! Now here are two people that I guarantee will not have the same taste in fashion, make-up maybe, but not fashion. LOL! But I can just see you, Boy G and Rupi doing lunch sometime. ;-)

Well lunch anytime. I am not afraid of them. ;-)

Even though I promised not to invite Rupe to any more of your parties, he's been very sad and complains that you never write and you never call. But Madge has a special message for you this year: Hon, you can take my place at anytime.

This event would not be complete without our boy Geoffrey's special, once-a-year-appearance to entertain Moon:

I do love that Geoffrey. Thank you, Karen. Now as to taking Madge's place, Rupe, absolutely not! Although, if you do come dress as a swashbuckler, I will go weak in the knees. ;-) Another round of Cosmos, ladies? :-D

Oh no......I�ve overslept! I�m late for Moon�s party.

Moon, I�ve brought my roommate, Jack, with me. He�s a Gemini, too, although I don�t think you two have much in common�.. Birthday Greetings from Apartment Zero. (Love the music, BTW.)

Should I look tropical, yet sophisticated?= Or.....is it a beach party where this would be useful. Maybe my Speedos instead? Hmmm.....

Or this tropical yet sophisticated look....

What kind of people will be there and what kind of activities are planned? If it�s a more formal affair..... I have a tux that Ivor Novello lent me in case I�m called on to entertain Moon with some singing and piano playing. And Mr. Knightly was so kind to lend me a nice period outfit just in case there were some lawn games, though I think I'll wilt in the humidity in this getup.

Remember, Moon, that LisaJH is just across the river from my hometown, and I�ve promised you both a little tour the next time I�m in the Greater Cincinnati area for a visit with my parents. Happy Birthday, dear Moon!

And I hope you don't mind I brought my friend Emma to help you celebrate. I'm trying to help her meet someone to keep her nose out of everyone else's business, including mine. ;-)

But with such intellectual equals as Mr. Rushdie and Lord Archer in attendance, maybe suave and enigmatic is the best way to go.

But, Moon, ultimately the day, and night, is to celebrate your birthday. So I�m putting on my dancing shoes, doing my best Saturday Night Fever imitation, and taking you out on the town! With your DH�s permission, of course. Mmmmm, with the whole night ahead of us, just imagine the possibilities. I�ll bet I can make you forget Colin, the Georges (Boy and the other one), and all the others....

Thank you, Dorine for bringing Jeremy. He got here just in time, in fact, we've been dancing all night. He even played my favourite, "Embrace Me" and you can imagine what happened afterwards. ;-D We are now off to the beach. BTW, Emma went home with Beck. ;-) LisaJH, it will be fun getting that tour of his parents home, once there, I'm sure the two of us we can take him to the Rock'n Roll Museum for some R&R too. :-) And thanks for bringing the guys from AZ. I see where he's getting his Trauma inspiration. ;-) And a good time was had by all! Thank you, ladies!

Kate) I wouldn't think the added number would be "Class," because it doesn't sound like a dance number. (Dorine) May not be a dance number, but it had been filmed, then cut before release with the intention of putting it on the DVD. (Kate) I knew that "class" had been cut. Assumed the same was true of "we move on." Nothing filmed for "we move on" then? Nothing filmed from what I heard. Rob Marshall only spoke of "Class" when referring to cut scenes/songs. I believe "We Move On" was tacked on at the end only to have something to qualify for the Oscar for Best Song. Unfortunately, when Kander and Ebb came to one of my film classes, I was unable to make it that night due to a work dinner event I couldn't get out of, or go late to, as the boss was in town (Nice guy, bad timing). I think just having the song tacked on at the end was the most I heard about it. That's not saying there's not more info out there I didn't hear or read about it.

Please take this kind of thing to email.

You deleted my birthday wish!

The ever-late Caribou here to wish you a Happy Belated Birthday, Moon! I thought of you today when I found this old article: A Moon by Any Other Name American colonists named each full moon: January: Winter moon February: Trapper's moon March: Fish moon April: Planter's moon May: Milk moon June: Rose moon (Thought you would like that one too, Annette.) July: Summer moon August: Dog Days moon September: Harvest moon October: Hunter's moon (Definitely not a caribou's favorite.) November: Beaver moon December: Christmas moon Drool: Moon Dreams (How very insightful of those colonists!) Hope you have a great year and can use some of this info the next time you lunch! ;-)

See? I told you all that things would work out fine.;-) From today's New York Post: GWYNETH HUNGRY FOR NEW HIT GWYNETH Paltrow has good reason to be depressed after playing suicidal poet Sylvia Plath - the movie is said to be less than a masterpiece. Spies with the production of "Sylvia" - formerly titled "The Beekeeper" and "Ted & Sylvia" - say it's a turkey. Paltrow dropped out of "Happy Endings" last month right before shooting was to start with Lisa Kudrow and Ray Liotta. "She just needs some time off," her spokesman said then. But our source says, "Gwyneth is really depressed about her career. She hasn't had a hit in a very long time. This is on top of the depression over her father's death." Paltrow's rep, Stephen Huvane, said: "We are doing an Oscar push for the movie which will be released the first week of October. "Gwyneth saw the [first draft of] the movie and thinks it's the best thing she has ever done. We have already booked three covers of three major magazines - we are shooting one right now - to help promote the movie." A rep for Focus Films, the indie production house that is putting out "Sylvia," said: "We are releasing 'Sylvia' this fall and are very excited about it." Despite Paltrow "needing some time off," the flaxen-haired beauty is heading back to work in September to film a project titled "Proof." Her sci-fi thriller with Jude Law, "The World of Tomorrow," is due for release next year. She plays a reporter investigating the disappearance of scientists at the 1939 World's Fair. Meanwhile, at least Paltrow's love life is going well with Coldplay frontman Chris Martin. The British press went frantic when Paltrow's mom, Blythe Danner, recently threw a party at her Los Angeles home - a fete the reporters guessed was an engagement party. Huvane assured us, "Gwyneth is not engaged. Her mother hosted a party for charity last week in her Los Angeles home, so that's why all the celebrities [including Paltrow's godfather Steven Spielberg] were there." But Paltrow looked happy at China Club Thursday night as Coldplay performed. One witness said, "She watched proudly and jived along with every note." After the performance, the 1,000 fans in attendance were invited to do a Q&A with the band, although no questions about Martin and Paltrow were allowed.

Happy Birthday, Beedee! IF JUNE 17 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ...your self-reliance and ability to handle responsibility have others leaning on you for support. Whatever you decide, you usually get it done. Personal sacrifice comes easily. Your passion is intense and all the way. This is a year for new beginnings, self-improvement and advancement. Letters H, Q and Z follow you. September brings a move or domestic adjustment; December love and money. ************** Today's Birthdays: 1239 Edward I king of England (1272-1307) 1703 John Wesley cofounded Methodist movement/author 1742 William Hooper signed Decl of Ind 1811 Jon Sigurdsson Iceland, leader/collects Icelandic legends 1818 Charles Gounod Paris, France, opera composer (Faust) 1832 Sir William Crookes chemist/physicist; discovered thallium 1858 Eben Sumner Draper former MA Gov 1867 John Robert Gregg Ireland, inventor (shorthand) 1870 George Cormack created "Wheaties" cereal 1871 James Weldon Johnson lawyer, 1st black admitted to Florida Bar 1882 Igor Stravinsky Oranienbaum, Russia, composer (The Rite of Spring) 19-- Irwin "Sonny" Fox Bkln NY, TV host (Wonderama, $64,000 Challenge) 19-- Jason Patric actor (Lost Boys, Solar Babies) 19-- Michael Monroe rock vocalist (Hanoi Rocks, Ain't it Fun) 19-- Paul Stevens actor (Young & Restless) 1904 Ralph Bellamy Chicago, actor (Air Mail, Dive Bomber, Trading Places) 1910 Red Foley Blue Lick Ky, country singer (Mr Smith Goes to Washington) 1912 Don Gillis Cameron Missouri, composer (Symphony #5�) 1914 John Hersey author (Hiroshima, A Bell for Adano) 1915 Stringbean [David Akeman], Ky, banjoist/comedian (Hee Haw) 1919 Kingman Brewster college president (Yale) 1920 Beryl Reid actress (Joseph Andrews, Psycho Mania, Yellowbeard) 1920 Fran�ois Jacob France, biologist/bacteriologist (Nobel 1965) 1922 Jerry Fielding Pitts Pa, orch leader (Lively Ones) 1923 Elroy (Crazylegs) Hirsch AAFC, NFL halfback, end (LA Rams) 1925 Keith Larsen Salt Lake City Utah, actor (The Hunter, Brave Eagle) 1928 James Brown rocker (Hot Pants) 1929 Tigran Petrosyan USSR, world chess champion (1963-69) 1931 Virginia McKenna London, actress (Born Free, Gathering Storm) 1940 Bobby Bell NFL linebacker (KC Chiefs) 1942 Norman Kuhlice England, rocker (Swinging Blue Jeans-You're No Good) 1945 Eddy Merckx Belguim, cyclist (5 time winner of Tour de France) 1946 Barry Manilow NYC, singer (Mandy) 1948 David Concepcion Venezuela, all star shortstop (Cincinatti Reds) 1948 Phylicia Allen Ayers Rashad Houston Tx, actress (Cosby) 1951 Joe Piscopo Passaic NJ, comedian (SNL, Miller Lite commercials) 1954 Mark Linn-Baker St Louis, actor (Larry Appleton-Perfect Strangers) 1958 Dan McVicar Independence Mo, actor (Clarke-Bold & Beautiful) 1964 Michael Gross West Germany, swimmer (Olympic-2 world records-1984) 1965 Kami Cotler Long Beach Calif, actress (Elizabeth-The Waltons) 1969 Kevin Thornton vocalist (Color Me Badd-I Want to Sex You Up) 1975 Frederick Koehler Queens NY, actor (Chip-Kate & Allie) 1977 Jason Miller Silver Springs Md, actor (New Mickey Mouse Club) On this day... 653 St Martin I ends his reign as Catholic Pope 676 Deusdedit III ends his reign as Catholic Pope 1397 Union of Kalmar established between Denmark, Sweden & Norway 1579 Sir Francis Drake lands on the coast of Calif 1745 American colonials capture Louisburg, Cape Breton I from French 1775 Battle of Bunker Hill (actually it was Breed's Hill) 1789 3rd Estate in France declared itself a national assembly 1837 Charles Goodyear obtains his 1st rubber patent 1850 Paddle-wheeler "G P Griffith" burns off Mentor Ohio (206 die) 1856 Republican Party opens its 1st national convention in Philadelphia 1863 Battle of Aldie, Confederates fail to drive back the Union in Virginia 1863 Travelers Insurance Co of Hartford chartered (1st accident insurer) 1876 1st to hit 2 HRs; & score 5 runs in 9 inn NL game (George Hall, A's) 1880 John Ward, Providence, pitches perfect game vs Buffalo 1882 Tornado kills 130 in Iowa 1885 Statue of Liberty arrived in NYC aboard French ship `Isere' 1894 1st US poliomyelitis epidemic breaks out, Rutland, Vermont 1895 US Ship Canal (W 225th St) in the Bronx completed; cutting Marble Hill off from Manhattan 1897 William Frank Powell, NJ educator, named minister to Haiti 1909 A Kopff discovers asteroid #682 Hagar 1919 "Barney Google" cartoon strip, by Billy De Beck, premiers 1928 Amelia Earhart leaves Nfld to become 1st woman to fly the Atlantic (as a passenger in a plane piloted by Wilmer Stultz) 1930 Chuck Klein sets Phillies hitting streak at 26 straight games 1937 Marx Brothers' "A Day At The Races" opens in NY 1940 France asks Germany for terms of surrender in WW II 1942 1st WW II American expeditionary force lands in Africa (Gold Coast) 1944 Republic of Iceland proclaimed at Thingvallir, Iceland 1945 Day of Unity in West Germany (National Day) 1946 SW Bell innaugurates mobile telephone commercial service, St Louis 1947 1st round-the-world civil air service leaves NYC 1948 Joe Cronin pinch hit HRs in both ends of a doubleheader 1950 1st kidney transplant (Chicago) 1953 Riots in East Germany for reunification 1953 Sup Court Justice Wm O Douglas stays executions of spies Julius & Ethel Rosenberg scheduled for the next day their 14th anniversary 1954 Televised Senate Army McCarthy hearings ends 1957 Tuskegee boycott begins (Blacks boycotted city stores) 1960 Ted Williams hit his 500th home run 1962 Brazil Beats Czechosolakia in soccer's 7th World Cup at Santiago 1963 Supreme Court rules against Bible reading/prayer in public schools 1965 28.14 cm (11.08") of rainfall, Holly, Colorado (state 24-hour record) 1965 Kinks arrive in NYC beginning their 1st US tour 1967 Barbra Striesand: A Happening in Central Park performed 1967 China becomes world's 4th thermonuclear (H-bomb) power 1971 C U Cesco discovers asteroid #2399 Terradas 1972 5 arrested for burglarizing Democratic Party HQ at Watergate 1972 Looking Glass releases "Brandy" 1974 Felix Aguilar Observatory discovers asteroids #2997 & #3083 1975 Voters in Northern Mariana Is approve commonwealth status with US 1976 ABA (Nets, Pacers, Nuggets & Spurs) merges into the NBA 1978 Ron Guidry sets Yankee record with 18 strike-outs 1980 C Shoemaker discovers asteroid #2586 Matson 1982 Pres Reagan 1st UN Gen Assembly address ("evil empire" speech) 1982 President Galtieri resigns after leading Argentina to defeat 1985 18th Space Shuttle Mission (51-G)-Discovery 5 launched 1986 Chief Justice Warren Earl Burger resigns Antonin Scalia nominated 1988 Bruce Springsteen seperates from Juliette Phillips 1988 Microsoft releases MS DOS 4.0 1988 The Givens' Family reports Mike Tyson beats his wife Robin Givens 1988 Women sentenced to 90 years in 1st product tampering murder case 1989 US beats Guatemala 2-1, in 3rd round of 1990 world soccer cup 1991 Country entertainer Minnie Pearl suffers a stroke at 78 1994 1994 World Cup soccer match begins

BeeDee!

Good Morning, Beedee! As you can see, I�m just getting ready to pop by and serve you a lovely birthday-breakfast. I�ll just need a quick ciggy, before I go � btw, do you have a packet of Embassy, in case I need one after, hm . uhm � visiting you? I just called, to say I look gorgeous in a long coat (ed note: couldn�t help myself, hope you enjoy ;-)) Have a pinch, sorry a sip! Well, Beedee, I hope you�ll have a great day. HAPPY BIRTHDAY! (Caribou)June: Rose moon (Thought you would like that one too, Annette.) Oh yes, I do!

Beedee, I'm so sorry :-( I don't know, why this allways happens to me - or maybe I do. Nevertheless, I won't take any more space messing things up, so please just follow the links, in case you would like to see the pictures to follow my greeting. http://www.firth.com/images/tiobe/cfinstyle_35.jpg http://www.firth.com/images/tiobe/trler011.jpg http://www.firth.com/images/tiobe/bts_cfphone.jpg http://www.chintzchina.com/xcoachingb.jpg http://www.koegebib.dk/grafik/Bogvoksen/rose.gif

Beedee, Happy birthday. Hope the day is great. I'm challenged in the pics department, and can't afford to mess up the board, so please enjoy the pics others are sending you.

Look, Beedee, I've just come back from the beach, with some shiny pebbles for you to decorate your water garden. ...maybe not too shiny. Anyway, hope you like it. Happy Birthday!

Happy Birthday BeeDee!!! And this rather puffy haired young gentleman wishes to express his best wishes as well!

The gang�s all here to laugh and cheer, Beedee, come out and play! It wouln�t be fair without Colin there To toast you quite this way. I don�t plan ahead, words flow from my head And make it easy to say, The nicest part comes from the heart, Dear Beedee, Happy Birthday!

If you look outside your window, this guy's been waiting for you for hours! Happy Birthday Beedee!!

Blast! I forgot the cake... Ahhh, here it is Happy Birthday Beedee

(Lisa)IF JUNE 17 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ...your self-reliance and ability to handle responsibility have others leaning on you for support. Sure.......you can lean on me for peer support on our obsession any time;-) (L) Whatever you decide, you usually get it done. This might have been more accurate before I became a licensed Drooler! Personal sacrifice comes easily. Anything for ODB and my fellow firthettes, at least.... Your passion is intense and all the way. Have they been monitoring my net activities? That Ashcroft work fast! December love and money. Great! I'll be able to afford multiple viewings of GWAPE! 1928 James Brown rocker (Hot Pants) Nuff said;-) Thanks for the fun Lisa Thanks for the greeting KJ, I can read German! Annette, I followed the links, you just did that to make me feel better, no? Thanks for the great wishes from a land for away Leah! My, my - wot a sweet face Maria! I feel quite pervey, actually! Great poem Sonia! My poet daughter will be so impressed! Gah Karen! Of course you got it right! Who I've been waiting for with flowers no less! And you, you sweet Josie! How did you know that was what I was doing last night! Picking rocks on Seneca lake for my Garden! Thanks to all, I'm veklempt and gotta have a *lie down*.

Even though walking is a fairly utilitarian reason for the work you've had done, think about the side benefits! *snort* Nevah thought I'd get to use this one again!

Beedee, here're some beautiful plants for you!

Oh, and goldfish too!

C'mon then, let's crash BeeDee's birthday party!

I'm waiting for BeeDee to join me....

Here you are!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BEEDEE

I'm waiting for BeeDee to join me....

Happy Birthday, Beedee! "You know I'm going to need a foot massage at every break in my next film, the Bollywood inspired, Kama Sutra Cornuto. So here's your chance to show off your feet too". :-D Top 21 Reasons To Be A Belly Dancer to be a dancer in my next film! 21. So you can subscribe to magazines with names like "Wiggle Hips". 20. It doesn't seem so much like "exercise" when you're wearing chiffon. 19. So you can entertain yourself at stoplights by practicing chest isolations. 18. The camel saddle you've had since the 60's now fits with your decor! 17. So you can leave a trail of beads, coins, and sequins wherever you go instead of bread crumbs. 16. You can name your cat Mizmar and lots of people you know will get the joke. 15. So you can fend off indecent advances from club owners at 2:00 in the morning. 14. So your spouse can whine to his friends about being a belly dancing widower. 13. So you can actually do something useful with what you learned in those sewing classes you took as a teen-ager. 12. So you can annoy your non-dancing friends and co-workers by begging them to come watch all your shows. 11. So strangers will tuck money into your clothing or shower it over your head. 10. So strangers will invite you to their parties. 9. So you can have a perfectly good reason to tote around a sword. 8. So you can enjoy the improvement in your sex life. 7. So you can finally learn how to work your CD/tape player. 6. So friends will start buying you little camel statues. 5. So you can have yet another excuse for rummaging through thrift shops in search of bargains. 4. So you can find yourself singing along to lyrics in a foreign language with no idea of what they mean. 3. So you can get a giggle out of watching people's expressions when you tell them what you do for fun. 2. So you can shock your old high school classmates by showing up in costume at the next high school reunion and doing a full show. And the Number 1 reason to be a belly dancer: 1. Costumes! Costumes! Costumes! Costumes! Costumes! Costumes!

Thanks for the cake linda but those guys had me spewing it out all over my screen and keyboard! Now I've got to clean it up before the DH comes in! Karen! You are responsible for the first snot and spew! You gotta let me explain and not on emails!! Girls!! I recently had some intense foot surgery! CF is really my only current fetish, I swear it...ROTFLMAO! Thanks for the plants Josie, are they covering Karen's post? Mari and Evelyn! On topic with those great smiles! I'm saving them and hope to have my own specimins for study. And Moon! You are responsible for the second snot and spew. There are too many of those *reasons* to respond to since too many are appropriate. I loved the young Henry in his hippie gear remember? But how could you know that I have more costumes in my possession than street clothes?! I have hats, gloves, purses.........perhaps I do have another fetish. Thanks everyone for a rolicking party. I'd be kicking my legs up with you but I'd fall off my crutch;-)

CF is really my only current fetish, I swear it... If that's the case, then I understand why you brought in this pic to give the surgeon a better idea of what you wanted. *snort*

Hey Beedee! It's Your Birthday! It's Your Birthday!! okay, that is a bit of a song we sang as kids...forgive... Oh...and sorry to hear about your surgery! Hope you're 'on your feet' again soon! okay, this little guy looks a bit beat up, but I'm assuming it is because he keeps falling off his crutches...when we're not watching....;-)

Dearest, loveliest Beedee, Birthday greetings from Rosings Park.. So sorry to hear about your foot. Can't wait until you're back on your dancing feet again. Pray, wot is a belly dancer? (P.S. That Regency tart LisaJH couldn't find the "On foot" picture....) Karen and Moon, LMAO!

(Regency tart LisaJH) (P.S. That Regency tart LisaJH couldn't find the "On foot" picture....) What's all this about feet? Happy Birthday, Beedee!

Thanks so much again! In my last post I wrote snot and spew, but I was so stupid I didn't mean what I meant....... Which was *snort* and spew but my keyboard was a mess and my fingers must have slipped off the *r*s. (Karen)If that's the case, then I understand why you brought in this pic to give the surgeon a better idea of what you wanted. *snort* Oh yes! Those are the ones! I would have taken those home instead of the lollypop;-) Then karen's post would have been very appropriate;-O Did I say that? Remember "moses supposes his toeses are roses...." They must have been thinking of us! (Tress)okay, this little guy looks a bit beat up, but I'm assuming it is because he keeps falling off his crutches...when we're not watching....;-) LOL Tress! This little guy looks familiar;-) Thanks for the cake since I choked on the last one LMAO! (Lisa) Pray, wot is a belly dancer? LOL, I would love to hear that voice say dearest, loveliest Barbara! In my dreams! And can't you just imagine FD saying "wot is a belly dancer?"! You guys are nuts!! I have heard oh so very many foot jokes this past month but this beats em all by a long shot, but so few IFL know the "target" as well as you do. My sides are beginning to hurt!

(FD)What's all this about feet? Oh, Mr Darcy, is that a shoe horn in your pocket or are you just following direction? Thanks Rika!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BEEDEE. I'm graphics illiterate so can only convey my best wishes in this rather subdued way. Enjoy your special day.

and while we're at it... Birthday Greeting from Livia

Hi Beedee, I was sent to make up for the lousy presentation, Annette caused this morning. I may not be the most popular of rolls, but I do look very handsome, don't you think? Anyway, Annette asked me to make up to you in some way, and since I never got a real crack at Shakespeare (BA doesn't really count), I'll recite this for you: He jests at scars, that never felt a wound. But, soft! What light through yonder window breaks? It is the east, and Juliet is the sun! Arise, fair sun, and kill the envious moon, Who is already sick and pale with grief, That thou her maid art far more fair than she. Be not her maid, since she is envious; Her vestal livery is but sick and green, And none but fools do wear it; cast if off. It is my lady. O, it is my love! O that she knew she were! She speaks, yet she says nothing: what of that? Her eyes discourses; I will answer it. I am too bold, �tis not to me she speaks: Two of the fairest stars in all the heaven, Having some business, do entreat her eyes To twinkle in their spheres till they return. What if her eyes were there, they in her head? The brightness of her cheek would shame those stars As daylight doth a lamp. Her eyes in heaven Would through the airy region stream so bright That birds would sing and think it were not night. O that I were a glove upon that hand, That I might touch that check. A few comments from me (Annette, that is): You have got some very talented guests, Beedee. Capital, capital ;-) Hope you will soon be on your feet again. I can see by your postings, that you are on your toes, nothing wrong there ;-) About the belly-dancing. There actually is a HS-link here: One of the "moves" you have to practice in order to learn to belly-dance is "the butterfly" (I'll show you one day, when we are alone). crossing fingers and hoping it will turn out right this time

Happy Birthday!!! I wish I could post some delicious, special picture, but as I have none of my own (and don't want to steal), I thought I'd just have you imagine ODB serenading you with "Happy Birthday" on his guitar. Yes, I know it's a pretty pathetic way of sending my congratulations. I'm sorry.

"A packet of Embassy's please" "You're out? Wot do you mean you're out?" Wishing you a very happy birthday, BeeDee!! (with grateful thanks to Rika)

Beedee

Your favorite Darcy was going to join me in wishing you a Happy Birthday, but he says I will never post graphics and pics well unless I practice more. However, he sends his best wishes for your health and happiness, and so do I! Happy Birthday, BeeDee!!!

(Allen P)I was sent to make up for the lousy presentation, Annette caused this morning. I may not be the most popular of rolls, but I do look very handsome, don't you think? I think you look very handsome! But I can't get past the company you keep! I will, however, keep your "likeness" since I might never get another opportunity;-) (WS)But, soft! What light through yonder window breaks? It is the east, and Juliet is the sun! How did you know that this is a favorite of mine? "You are very good, Annette. Did I remember to thank you for that lovely *old* rose? A beauty! (Annette)One of the "moves" you have to practice in order to learn to belly-dance is "the butterfly" (I'll show you one day, when we are alone). I have heard and read of this butterfly business and am more than ready to experience it first hand or foot or .......... And I will let you know when I'm alone!!! I'm working on it now! (Shoshanna)I thought I'd just have you imagine ODB serenading you with "Happy Birthday" on his guitar. Oooo, I'd love to "come down" in an instant if he showed up with his guitar! Thanks for the lovely imagage! I'm very adept at CF fantasies! Thanks for this one. (MD)"A packet of Embassy's please" "You're out? Wot do you mean you're out?" Someone named Beedee bought them all up. The real and the imaginary ones! And she ended up half way into the dog house as a result! But kind hearted Ada brought out a blanket and some kibble so it wasn't so bad. Wot a beautiful face you have on you! (Hen)but he says I will never post graphics and pics well unless I practice more. But when you do you will be a true proficient! Keep your eyes on the prize! Sept 10! That's when we both got hooked here and when we thought these wonderful women were beyond our abilities! It's the obsession that counts here. Thanks for your wishes. (Pam)HAPPY BIRTHDAY BEEDEE. I'm graphics illiterate so can only convey my best wishes in this rather subdued way. Enjoy your special day. Hey fellow Gemini! Your best wishes are appreciated and you and your fellow droolers made this a very special day! Birthday Greeting from Livia So Karen, you think I got a chance now? I mean when the scars go away? Am heavy on the vitamin E cream..... I don't know if I'll ever wear opened toes shoes again. But, though I have thrown away the crutch and the cane I still have a bit of a gimp. It's still very much like a Robert lawrence gait. An award winning walk! Karen, You have busted my gut today! Not a very lady like comment I know but there it is!

(Josie)Oh, and goldfish too! By the way Josie, the fish have aclimatised wonderfully and are swimming along with the rest of my guys! When will you be by to help feed them? I'm closing in on the witching hour and I want to thank one and all for a lovely day and amzing photos,lovely wishes and gut busting belly laughs. Getting older never felt this good! See newbees, there's no reason for a cure;-)

It'll be Dame Kristen Scott Thomas...along with honorees Helen Mirren and Geraldine James OBE on the Queen's Birthday Honours list last Saturday. And Simon Russell Beale CBE .(No surprise there, he's a favorite of the West End)

This is my best effort (today, hopefully it will get much better!) to honor the birthdays of Moon, BeeDee and Pam! A neophytes best effort, but I must add that you people, and more particularly, you birthday people, are an inspiration!! Pam, sorry for the belated notice, but I have to assume you were almost born by now! (which pretty much means you reside in a different hemisphere, fingers crossed.) Happy birthday wishes to each of you! Pray, continue with the fete! I myself indulge in celebrations at least a week before and a week after the actual date, and I make most of my friends participate! And p.s., have you each been introduced to the birthday shudder? I have it on good authority that annually at the time of your birth (assuming you have that info, assuming you are actually awake), that if you focus, you WILL experience a palpable "shudder," reminding you of your birth (joy!). This was told to me by a very carefully reared, mystically-raised, Philipina (chinese, spanish woman, that knows about these things! Test it! MD: Look you quite clearly said you'd send her a birthday note from BOTH of us and now it looks to her as though I'M the one that forgot! She'll forgive you anything!! CF: Bollocks. Crikey. CF: I'm telling you it was NOT my fault! I would never never ever forget her nativity!! MD: Uh-huh. Nevah. You must believe him. CF: Shhhhh. I'm not going to expose my flaws and if you know what's good for you, you won't say a word either. MD: I'm really really scared. CF: Wait a minute. Maybe I should expose -- will you allow me, or do I ask too much, to introduce my lesser-clad self to your acquaintance -- as a belated present?! CF: (editor note: paraphrased from Chapter 58, last part) Ladies, you are all most unaffectedly modest. Your diffidence has prevented your depending on your own judgment in so anxious a case as this, but your reliance on me makes everything easy. I am obliged to confess one thing which may offend you, and not unjustly, offend others. I cannot allow myself to conceal that your sisters' birthdays have been known to me for some time -- and I have purposefully kept it to myself since last winter. You are angry, but your anger, I am persuaded, will last no longer than you remain in doubt as to my serious sentiments. You must heartily forgive me now. I hope I do not suffer from a misapprehension. Forgive me.?! Happy Happy (belated) Birthday!!

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OMG! I do, I do forgive you!! But only if you come through with that *butterfly* thing! Hey CeeJ! You must have spent all night in study hall! I must have been outside trying to bum one of those Amnesties, or are they embassys.....? Great job!

Now close that color tag;-)

I've been informed of another June birthday! Shoshana, one of our newest members of the Class of 2003, has her birthday on June 23.

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We have heard the most surprising news! Shazza heard from Tom who heard from his boyfriend that it's Pam's Birthday!!"Happy Birthday Pam! From your Virtual Family!!!

“Wot? You didn’t notice me until you saw the other Darcy? For that you deserve a birthday spanking, Pam!”

It's 1:15 in the morning and I'm up late because I wanted to be the first to wish Pam a happy birthday but I see that Bridget got there first! Well I brought you some flowers........ And....... Chocolates.... I must have a lie down now so have a great start on your birthday, I'm sure I'll join you later Madame de Pam!

Hi Pam! As far as I remember, you have a weak spot for Lost Empires. So � I thought you should have this as a birthday-song: Down at the old Bull and Bush. Come, come, come and make eyes at me, Down at the old Bull and Bush. (da-da-da-da-da) Come, come, drink some port wine with me, Down at the old Bull and Bush. Hear the little German band. (ta-ra-ra-ra-oompa-pa) Just let me hold your hand dear? Do, do come and have a drink or two, Down at the old Bull and Bush!! (bush, bush) Just close your eyes, imagine you and ODB in period clothes, having a ball ;-) and to match your date, here�s a flower for you: Happy Birthday!

Pam Someone's Thinking of You!

I'm on my way, Pam...I just need to get rid of this little French tart.

Pam, have a great birthday. (how can you not with the party going on!)

A few of your particular favorites have come to wish you a Very Happy Birthday Pam!!! This young and easily seducable young fellow insisted on being first.. Football is just a front Pam, he really just wants to get you alone! This girl had her chance, and then found her thoughts ridiculously consumed by lingerie, Mark Darcy has requested post party time alone with you, don't make the same mistake! Have a great day Pam!!

A few good men, just for you, Pam, To help you celebrate. Flowers and joy, and ODB A perfect birthday date. Accept this verse, it could be worse As I wish you today, A somewhat funny and even drooly, Lovely and happy birthday.

YESSSSSSS!!!!I get cake!!!!Happy Birthday, Pam!!

This is a pretty lame excuse for a party hat. Thank heavens somebody brought the confetti! Pam

Pam!! Have a great day!!

Pam, it *Looks* like you are having a wonderful birthday celebration. I would like to add my *esteem and admiration* for you from Pemberly. Oh! And I have brought a cake for you.....

OH WHAT A LOVELY PARTY THIS IS!!!! I can't thank you all enough, Karen, CeeJ - What fun. I never thought CF and MD would be arguing over my birthday, how thrilling. Tress my favorite girls to party with, I know I'll never be the same after a night with them and Colin can have as much cake as he wants and so much more. Kathy I'll take a spanking from him anytime especially in his wet shirt, but as for his choice of hat, it's what's under it that counts. Anxiously awaiting CF's arrival BeeDee and really appreciate his staying up so late to wish my a HBD, I hope he's really well-rested. He's going to need all his strength ;-) What could be more romantic than a pub with Richard and my beautiful flower Annette. You've brought back fond memories of my time spent in England, and its pubs singing Bull and Bush. Made even better now with Richard. Can't believe he's choosing me over the French Tart, Linda, but am ecstatic and anxiously awaiting him. Maybe I better take a nap ;-) Leah, what a great party were having, I'm so glad you're here. ichard, Paul, Mark OMG Maria it doesn't get any better than that and I know Paul wants me, how could he not? Would never make Bridget's mistake with pants, Mark knows I don't wear any ;-) Sonia, with CF and all my wonderful friends there couldn't be a better party. Thank you so much for the lovely poem. THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE. WHAT A WONDERFUL PARTY AND WONDERFUL DAY.

A birthday card for Pam? Of course I'll sign it. Pam, have a wonderful birthday! By the way, didn't I last see you stirring a cauldron? Love, Will

Celebrate the day, Pam.... HAPPY BIRTHDAY

Happy Birthday Pam, from your fellow technically challenged Drooler. The party's hoppin', so I hope you are having a great day. In the words of our dear Peter, Here's looking at you kid!

Happy Birthday, Pam! or should I say Buon Compleanno! You touch me with your admiration, thank you! Thanks to Maria for the lovely picture find.

“Forget Ms. Hughes, can’t you see it’s you I love, Pam?”Happy Birthday from Your Darling Paul

Happy Birthday,Pam! IF JUNE 19 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you manage to gather your forces and prevail no matter how many setbacks. You're independent, creative and romantic with interests in music and sports. This year brings a new interest in spirituality and great benefits from lessons learned. There's long-distance travel this year connected with honors and rewards. December brings change. A, J and S are companions. *************************************** Today�s Birthdays: 1556 James VI of Scotland (1567-1625)/James I of England (1603-25) 1623 Blaise Pascal mathematician/physicist/religious writer 1764 Jos� Gervasio Artigas general/father of Uruguay 1764 Sir John Barrow England, founded Royal Geographical Society 1783 Thomas Sully US portrait painter (Queen Victoria) 1856 Elbert Hubbard US, editor/publisher/author (Message to Garcia) 1865 Dame May Whitty Liverpool England, actress (Mrs Minerva) 1877 Charles Coburn Macon Ga, actor (Acad-1943, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes) 1878 James M Kilroe priest of St Mary Star of the Sea, in the Bronx 1889 Enrico Celio pres of Switzerland 1896 Mrs Simpson [Bessie Wallis Warfield), Duchess of Windsor, divorcee 1897 Moe Howard comedian (3 Stooges) 1900 Laura Hobson NYC, TV writer/panelist (I've Got a Secret) 1902 Guy Lombardo London Ontario Canada, orch leader (Auld Lang Syne) 1903 Henry Louis Gehrig 1st baseman (NY Yankees) "Iron Horse" 1905 George Voskovec Czech, actor (Fred-Nero Wolfe, Peter-Skag) 1908 Mildred Natwick Balt Md, actress (She Wore a Yellow Ribbon) 1908 Quentin N Burdick (Sen-D-NC) 1909 Osamu Dazai Japan, novelist (Tsugaru, No Longer Human) 1912 Jerry Jerome Bkln NY, saxophonist (Words & Music) 1912 Martin Gabel Phila, TV host (With this Ring) 1914 Alan Cranston (Sen-D-CA) Pres candidate 1914 Harry Lauter White Plains NY, actor (Waterfront) 1914 Lester Flatt Earl Scrugg's partner (Beverly Hillbillies theme) 1918 Evelle Jansen Younger prosecutor of Charles Manson, Sirhan Sirhan 1919 Louis Jourdan Marselles France, actor (Gigi, Can-Can, Madame Bovary) 1919 Pauline Kael movie critic (NY Times) 1921 Howell Heflin (Sen-D-AL) 1922 Aage Neals Bohr Denmark, physicist/study atomic nucleus (Nobel 1975) 1924 Leo Nomellini NFL defensive tackle (SF 49ers) 1928 Nancy Marchand Buffalo NY, actress (Beacon Hill, Margaret-Lou Grant) 1932 Marisa Pavan actress (John Paul Jones, Solomon & Sheba, Rose Tattoo) 1932 Pier Angeli Italy (Sodom & Gomorrah, Vintage, Battle of the Bulge) 1933 Viktor I Patsayev USSR, cosmonaut (Soyuz 11) 1936 Gena Rowlands Cambria Wisc, actress (Gloria, Tempest, Brinks Job) 1938 Charles Gwathmey architect (5 Architects) 1941 Marlene Warfield Queens NY, actress (Victoria-Maude) 1942 Elaine "Spanky" McFarlane rocker (Spanky & Our Gang-Lazy Day) 1943 Malcolm McDowell actor (Clockwork Orange, Caligula) 1945 Tim Hovey LA Calif, actor (Queen Bee, Toy Tiger, Man Afraid) 1947 Phylicia Ayers-Allen Rashad Houston, actress (Clair-Bill Cosby) 1947 Salman Rushdie novelist (Midnight's Children, Satanic Verses) 1949 Kathleen Turner Springfield Mo, actress (Peggy Sue Got Married) 1950 Connie Forslund San Diego Calif, actress (Shining Season) 1951 Ann Wilson San Diego, singer (Heart-What About Love) 1959 Mark DeBarge rocker (DeBarge-Who's Johnny) 1962 Paula Julie Abdul Van Nuys Calif, singer/choreographer (Straight Up) 1973 Josie Davis actress (Charles in Charge) 1978 Garfield the Cat animated character "Big fat hairy deal" 1984 Emil Coleman orchestra leader (Arthur Murray Party) On this day... 240 -BC- Eratosthenes estimates circumference of Earth 1586 English colonists sailed from Roanoke Island NC 1754 Albany Congress held by 7 British colonies & Iroquois indians 1778 Washington's troops finally leave Valley Forge 1835 New Orleans gives US govt Jackson Square to be used as a mint 1846 1st baseball game (Cartwright Rules)-NY Nines 23, Knickerbockers 1 1861 Anaheim Post Office established 1862 Slavery outlawed in US territories 1864 CSS "Alabama" sunk by USS "Kearsarge" off Cherbourg, France 1865 All slaves in Texas freed 1867 1st Belmont Stakes, Ruthless wins 1868 Maj Gen E R S Canby removes mayor of Columbia SC 1875 Formal opening of US Marine Hospital at Presidio 1889 Start of Sherlock Holmes adventure "The Man with the Twisted Lip" 1910 Father's Day celebrated for 1st time (Spokane, Wash) 1917 After WW I King George V ordered members of British royal family to dispense with German titles & surnames, they take the name Windsor 1930 C Jackson & H E Wood discovers asteroid #1595 Tanga 1931 1st photoelectric cell installed commercially West Haven Ct 1932 1st concert given in SF's Stern Grove 1932 Hailstones kill 200 in Hunan Province, China PR 1934 Federal Communications Commission (FCC) created 1938 "Olympian Flyer" express train crashes in Montana, killing 47 1938 Italy beats Hungary 4-1 in soccer's 3rd World Cup at Paris 1940 "Brenda Starr," 1st cartoon strip by a woman, appears in Chicago 1943 NFL's Phila Eagles & Pitts Steelers merge, (disolves on Dec 5) 1946 1st TV sports spectacular-Joe Louis vs Billy Conn 1947 1st plane (F-80) to exceed 600 mph (1004 kph)-Albert Boyd, Muroc Ca 1950 A G Wilson discovers asteroid #1980 Tezcatlipoca 1952 "I've Got A Secret" debuted on CBS with Garry Moore as host 1952 Bkln Dodger Carl Erskine no-hits Chicago Cubs, 5-0 1953 Albert W Dent, elected president of Natl Health Council 1955 Mickey Mantle hits career HR # 100 1955 Phils beat Cubs 1-0 in 15, ties longest shut out in Phillies history 1959 Senate rejects Ike's appointment of Lewis Strauss for Sec of Comm 1961 Kuwait regains complete independence from Britain 1961 US Supreme Court struck down a provision in Md's constitution requiring state office holders to believe in God 1963 2 Russian space missions return to Earth 1963 Charter members of Canadian Football Hall of Fame chosen 1963 Valentina Tereshkova 1st woman in space returns to Earth 1965 KYW-AM in Cleveland Ohio returns call letters to Philadelphia 1967 Muhammad Ali is convicted for reusing induction in US Army 1967 Paul McCartney admits on TV that he took LSD 1968 50,000 participate in Solidarity Day March of Poor People's Campaign 1969 State troopers ordered to Cairo Ill, to quell racial disturbances 1970 A Nikolayev & V Sevastyanov return after 18 days in Soyuz 9 1970 Jim Bouton's controversial "Ball Four" is published 1971 Mayor declares state of emergency in Columbus Ga, racial disturbance 1973 Pete Rose & Willie Davis both get career hit # 2,000 1974 KC Royal Steve Busby 2nd no-hitter beats Milwaukee Brewers, 2-0 1976 US Viking 1 goes into Martian orbit after 10-month flight from Earth 1977 Pope Paul VI makes 19th-cen bishop John Neumann 1st US male saint 1977 Red Sox set 3 game record of 16 HRs, all against Yanks 1981 Boeing commercial Chinook 2-rotor helicopter is certified 1981 European Space Agency's Ariane carries 2 satellites into orbit 1981 Heaviest known orange (2.5 kg) exhibited, Nelspruit, S Africa 1981 India's APPLE satellite, 1st to be stabilized on 3 axes, launched 1984 1st live TV appearance by Chief Justice Warren Burger (Nightline) 1985 Reggie Jackson hits his 513th HR to move into 10th place 1986 Argentina beats West Germany 3-2 in soccer's 13th World Cup 1987 Geffen records sign their 1st artist (Donna Summer) 1987 Wee Willie Keeler's 44 game hitting streak ends Ben & Jerry Ice Cream & Grateful Dead's Jerry Garcia announce new Ice Cream flavor, Cherry Garcia 1988 Danny Spitz, heavy metal artist (Anthrax), weds Valerie 1988 In Santa Barbara, CA, a team of 32 divers finish cycling underwater on a standard tricycle, to complete 116.66 mi in 75 hrs 20 mins 1991 2 of Mia Farrow's daughters arrested for shoplifting lingerie

Pam, you�ve never looked lovelier�birthdays seem to agree with you!

Happy Birthday Pam! Forget about the French tart and enjoy this fruit tart, fresh from my baking business! That is if these two haven't eaten them all already...

Mr. Darcy and Birthday Cake, it doesn't get much better than that Beedee. But William Shakespeare signing my Birthday Card? How priviliged am I? I need a nice glass of Evelyn's champaign after that. Hic now that's better and I can look at his gorgeous smile Moon. Kathy, you've completed my wish list, Paul is leaving Sara for me, I knew if I was patient it would happen ;-) And LisaJ, I am an astrology buff, so am really into all these things, June 19th certainly was a busy day through the ages. I only wish birthdays agreed with me as well as they do you Mark. Mark thinks I'm lovely, he has such a way with words. Shoshana, LOL. Thank you for the French tart. You'd think Colin and Rupie would share with me for my Birthday. Looks like the way things get shared in my house. THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE FOR YOUR KIND THOUGHTS. I AM REALLY ENJOYING THIS PARTY. IT IS WONDERFUL.

That feels great, Pam, but since it’s your birthday today, shouldn’t I be giving you the massage?

Oy! Oy! Excuse me! Mics not working!! I just want to wish Pam a Happy Birthday!!

Wot? There's a birthday party for Pam? Give me a second to dump this broad and I'll be there!!! Happy Birthday, Pam! I hope you're having a great day!

Closing the font tag As the sargeant used to say on Hills Street Blues, "Let's be careful out there." ;-D

THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR SUCH A WONDERFUL PARTY!!! Hen, this party is indeed hoppin. Your good wishes are so much appreciated. Mari that was indeed me at the cauldron Will wrote about, just didn't want to admit my real age. Kathy I would give anything to get a massage from him, but am perfectly happy giving it to him ;-) Tress my girlfriend Bridget can say anything she wants, she usually does. Just love her. Ada am really touched that he's dropping that broad to come to my party. Thank you so much everyone for such a wonderful day.

I"m a little late but Happy Birthday to Pam and BeeDee.

Sheesh, first a French tart, and now two English ones! But Richard will be along soon, I promise! Happy birthday, Pam!

My Dearest Pam, I hear that you have been quite naughty at your party! Maybe we should retire to your room and write a letter to clear your reputation!And have a great evening!!

Pam, you wanted a towel scene for your birthday, did you not? Oh, not this towel? And definitely not this bathing suit?! Oh well, Happy Birthday anyway!

Dear FanPam ... ...if a bit belatedly...

(Mary Murphy)Paramount Pictures and Lakeshore are aiming an early 2004 start for "Piece of My Heart," with Renee Zellweger to star.... (You need a subscription to read more) (Janet)If this goes ahead, she'll not be shedding the pounds after BJD, as previously reported. I don't remember JJ being very slim. Renee' as Pearl? Maybe it's me but this is as hard to swallow as those 20 imaginary doughnuts! To my mind this casting sinks "like a ball 'n chain";-) But then RZ has surprised me before, is a Texan...... but the voice?

So come on, come on... Yeah, the voice would seem to be somewhat of a stumbling block (but who remembers what her speaking voice was), but this is the kind of role she's jump at, a nonglam one that pushed her acting envelope. As a Texan, she wouldn't need a dialect coach. ;-D

Variety, 6/20/03 After years of film companies competing to get a Janis Joplin bio to the bigscreen, Paramount Pictures and Lakeshore are aiming an early 2004 start for "Piece of My Heart," with Renee Zellweger to star. The actress will also produce the film with Lakeshore's Tom Rosenberg and Gary Lucchesi. "Renee has been obsessed with Janis for years and is totally committed to this," said Rosenberg. "We are looking to quickly bring aboard a writer-director so that this can be the picture she makes after the sequel to 'Bridget Jones's Diary.' " Lakeshore has been developing its project for seven years, flirting with Brittany Murphy and Melissa Etheridge to play Joplin, who died at the age of 27 in 1970. Numerous drafts have been written, but Rosenberg and Lucchesi indicated that getting Zellweger makes it a whole new ballgame and that the shooting script will be determined by the actress and the writer-director they hire. Paramount Pictures chair Sherry Lansing was equally bullish: "Janis Joplin's life is a story that needs to be told, and there is no one better to portray her than Renee Zellweger." Lucchesi said, "Aside from Renee's talent, it's a plus that she's from Texas like Janis was because she can appreciate the courage it took to leave there and go to San Francisco and make a career rather than stay behind and conform to the life her parents were hoping for." The CAA-repped Zellweger will next be seen in "Cold Mountain" for Miramax. The film opens Dec. 25. Date in print: Fri., Jun. 20, 2003, Los Angeles (ed. Note- Janet may be right on about the weight thing��a two fer) Ok, Karen....RZ is one determined actress and anyway freedom's just another word for nothin left to loose;-)

(Murph)Paramount Pictures and Lakeshore are aiming an early 2004 start for "Piece of My Heart," with Renee Zellweger to star.... I completely disapprove of this casting!!! :-( freedom's just another word for nothin left to loose;-) The losers will be the JJ fans. RZ is getting very greedy.

*snort* Hey, and it's not like they're talking playing Mama Cass now, is it? ;-D I can picture her as JJ. [BTW, I think we should coordinate our "14-day free trials" at Variety to maximize our coverage. ;-D] ~~~~~~~~~~~ [Looks like he may be playing straight...] Everett finds 'Way' to Fellowes pic By Zorianna Kit Rupert Everett will star opposite Tom Wilkinson and Emily Watson in the British feature "A Way Through the Woods," which marks the directorial debut of Oscar-winning screenwriter Julian Fellowes. Paul Smith's Celador Prods. is producing the project, with a September production start planned. "Way" is based on Nigel Balchin's novel of the same name, which Fellowes adapted. Wilkinson and Watson play a married couple whose lives are complicated when a third party, played by Everett, enters the picture. Celador's Christian Colson is producing. Everett, repped by ICM, is shooting "A Different Loyalty" opposite Sharon Stone.

Sh...t! Emily Watson would be a much better JJ!

Renee will be perfect as JJ! What a role for her. Nothing greedy about going after great roles--and making them happen by taking on the producer's mantle. She is a savvy lady. And Janis was thin. Feelin' good was good enough for me . . .

(Moon) The losers will be the JJ fans. RZ is getting very greedy. Who would you like to see cast? Just curious....I remember thinking there was no way Val Kilmer could play Jim Morrison and being pleasantly surprised.... Melissa Etheridge could sound like JJ, but I don't know if she can act....and she's about fifteen years too old for the part. Britney Murphy is the right age, but she has that very distinct voice...would need a dialogue coach (I'm just going off of the ones mentioned in the article).

(Mari) And Janis was thin. She was that but was also a bit more zaftig, shall we say.

(Moon) RZ is getting very greedy. To quote Denzel Washington in Philadelphia, "explain this to me like I'm a six year old." :-) The story of a woman who goes against the grain in her small Texas town by being against segregation, discovers her true talent in a non-conventional career path, conquers the world of music yet whose life is cut short by an addiction she can't kick. How does taking on that role, a challenging role of someone v. famous that she admires, a role for which she is sure to be criticized by many even before she even walks on the set (she's been there, done that) make RZ very greedy? Seems more like an actor's dream. Would I love for CF to have a demanding and challenging role that would showcase his talent in a movie with possible wide theatrical release? You bet I would! And he doesn't even have to sing ;-)

(From the JJ official web site) She is currently the subject of two hotly contested biographical movie projects. Is this still accurate? (Dueling Janises?)

I'M ALL WORN OUT;-) Lucie and KJ thank you so much for your good wishes. Rika so glad you made it missed you. Richard was great;-) and Valmont and I wrote so many letters, there goes clearing my reputation, Tress, and Kathy when he showed up all he wore was the towel, said he lost the suit. What a lovely night. THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE FOR A MOST MEMORIABLE BIRTHDAY. Thanks for the very interesting articles Murph and Karen. I also think Renee will be good in the roll. A challenge, perhaps, but a good showcase for her great skills. Perhaps she feels she's ready for a challenging roll. Good for her.

(Tress), Who would you like to see cast? Just curious.... Emily Watson would be a much better JJ! (Moon) RZ is getting very greedy. (Sonia),To quote Denzel Washington in Philadelphia, "explain this to me like I'm a six year old." :-) She's going after roles that would be better served by another actress just because she can "own" it with money and putting herself down as producer. It is a role for an Oscar nomination if done right and she is blinded by that Oscar. Val Kilmer nailed Jim Morrison. He was outstanding! What if Jim Carry or Tom Cruise that were big at the time, had insisted on the role? Britney Murphy comes off as such a bimbo. I don't like her at all.

(Moon) What if Jim Carry or Tom Cruise that were big at the time, had insisted on the role? Yes, VK nailed it and made it his own. Yet, I'm one of those (in the minority probably) who thinks JC can act (you've read it here first ;-) says she ducking tomatoes and... hey that wasn't a tomato!) just as I was one (in the minority) who thought Tom Hanks could act (back before anyone thought he'd ever get Oscars and the like). So, I would've kept an open mind had JC or even TC insisted on the role. She's going after roles that would be better served by another actress just because she can "own" it with money and putting herself down as producer. It is a role for an Oscar nomination if done right and she is blinded by that Oscar. I don't have the insight into RZ's character you seem to have. She comes across as an actress in control of her career and going after challenging projects, imho. Pretty sad if an actor's sole motivation is Oscar. :-( So many good roles (and actors) were never contenders.

(From the JJ official web site) She is currently the subject of two hotly contested biographical movie projects. (Barb) Is this still accurate? (Dueling Janises?) Maybe Moon will get Emily Watson! ;-) I like the idea of RZ as JJ....just because every time I think an actor won't work, they usually surprise me (I would never have thought of Will Smith as Ali or Val Kilmer as Jim M or Jim Carrey (who I am not a fan of) as Andy Kaufman or Nicole Kidman as Virginia Wolff or....). If the script is good and she nails it...she'll get her Oscar...and not that I don't think Emily Watson couldn't do it. I think she's a great actress. Would probably make an amazing JJ and looks a bit like her.

(Karen)[BTW, I think we should coordinate our "14-day free trials" at Variety to maximize our coverage. ;-D] You are uncanny! How did you know? I used up my time but signed up at home today;-) (Sonia)"explain this to me like I'm a six year old." :-) LOL Sonia, now don't get me started on Denzel! Another drool muffin for me. How does taking on that role, a challenging role of someone v. famous that she admires, a role for which she is sure to be criticized by many even before she even walks on the set (she's been there, done that) make RZ very greedy? Seems more like an actor's dream. Ok, ok I'm getting over the initial shock. I first thought she was just after getting herself another Mercedes Benz;-) But seriously folks, could it be worse than The Rose, that overwrought rip off? Could use something good to wipe that out of my mind.

(Beedee) You are uncanny! How did you know? I used up my time but signed up at home today;-) I didn't know that but someone else here signed up too. RZ as Janis Joplin discussion here We don't need the same comments on two different topics and it is not about BJD anymore, having gotten past the production dates aspect.

Told friend (who is as obsessed with JJ as I am with CF) about the RZ casting, and he also thinks it's inspired, as JJ was pretty-ish, too. He did say they'll have to add pockmark makeup, but I'd think that's quite easy to accomplish. Mari, he also brought up the Texas connection and that RZ's raspy speaking voice would translate easily to JJ-speak. (Am still waiting for her posthumous Christmas album to be released; her version of Silent Night is not to be missed! ;-))

(Tress), Who would you like to see cast? Just curious.... (Moon)Emily Watson would be a much better JJ! Me, I never liked JJ.

Oh, incidentally ... Minkee! ... and many, many more... !

Ladies, since Minkee doesn't come here. Please email her your birthday greetings. Thanks

(Evelyn)Me, I never liked JJ. Even before she was dead?;-)

LOL! Break another little bit of my heart, now darling

Who knows? They *might* be out there lurking ... ... for their 6th Big One ...

A very Happy Anniversary to Colin and Livia. And a Happy 21st Birthday to Prince William. -Finally, we do have a handsome prince in the Royal Family!!

Finally, we do have a handsome prince in the Royal Family!! Do you remember or have you ever seen pictures of Prince Andrew at the same age? ;-)

Happy Anniversary Colin and Livia

Evelyn)Me, I never liked JJ. (Bee Dee)Even before she was dead?;-) Dead or alive;-) I'm telling ya', these stars have a short shelf-life with me too;-) Happy Birthday Prince Andrew. Who knows maybe he lurks here too.

Oh shit..why doesn't someone close those center tags.

My fireworks have disappeared. Blast! Sorry Colin and Livia. Enjoy the day!

Happy Anniversery Colin and Livia!And many, many more!!!Happy Birthday to Prince William!!I'm getting old....I remember the day he was born....and it wasn't too long ago...now he's 21!! GAH!

I'm late here, (no big surprise, there). I'm sorry for having missed sending birthday felicitations to Pam. Happy (Belated) Birthday, Pam. I'm glad to see that you had a wonderful celebration. Happy Belated Birthday to all of you June birthday people: Moon, Minkee, et al. Hope everyone of you had great birthdays.

Shoshana ... ...Just don't overdo it! ;-D ...

Shoshana, hope you have a great day!

Hi Shoshana!! I thought I�d introduce you to Paul. As far as I remember from your list, you haven�t had the pleasure of meeting him yet. This is how he looks like, having just received an offer which you cannot pass. He has his very own style in underwear Doesn�t he look great? But � he isn�t the best at picking out flowers, so you�ll get one from me instead. Happy Birthday!! If I do not remember correctly about Fever Pitch, I hope you will enjoy a visit from Paul anyway ;-)

Nice news for Lola: Movie City News: "The Hulk has landed a mighty blow, arriving with an estimated opening weekend gross of $63.5 million. For the record books it is the biggest June box office debut and the first time that a studio - in this instance Universal - has had three consecutive $50 million plus bows for new releases. In less than two months, Universal has gone from less than a 1% market share to close to 10% and is in excellent position to command the top position for the summer movie-going period."

Wot?? Another Birthday?!! Libby, make sure you get a large enough cake...those Droolers are a ravenous lot! And don't forget the wine....the last time they threw a party here we ran out after the first hour... Shoshana!!!

Shoshana, ready to party? Here's a big birthday cake for you.

Happy Birthday, Shoshana! IF JUNE 23 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... the twinkle in your heart helps others to smile even when life is difficult. You're romantic and intelligent. You're a good communicator who's often motivated by strong emotions. You can be the life of a party but withdraw if challenged. This year should see you escaping into music, art and metaphysics. It will be a year of awakening subtle forces within and without, of laying solid foundations and for getting married (if single). Don't speculate. **************** Today�s Birthdays: 1763 Jos�phine Martinique, empress of France 1846 George Sax inventor (the saxophone) 1848 Antoine Joseph Sax inventor (the saxophone) 1875 Carl Milles Uppsala Sweden, fountain sculptor (Wedding of Rivers) 1876 Irvin S Cobb Ky, writer/humorist (Old Judge Priest) 1887 John Finley Williamson Canton Ohio, conductor (Westminster Choir) 1894 Alfred Kinsey entomologist/sexologist (Kinsey Report) 1894 Duke of Windsor [King Edward VIII of England] (briefly in 1936) 19-- Chuck Billy rocker (Testament-Souls of Black) 19-- Jim Metzler Newburgh NY, actor (Best Times, North & South) 19-- Joseph Roman South Phila, actor (Sgt Brill-Quincy ME) 19-- Lela Ivey actress (Edge of Night) 19-- Lizzy Borden rocker (Red Rum, Norturios) 1902 Dr Howard T Engstrom Boston, a designer of Univac computer 1904 Dr Carleton Coon prof of anthropology (What in the World) 1910 Jean Anouilh France, dramatist (Thieves' Carnival) 1911 David Ogilvy advertising whiz (Ogilvy & Mathers) 1912 Alan Turing mathematician pioneer in computer theory (Turing Machine) 1913 William P Rogers US secretary of state (1969-73) 1916 Irene Worth Nebraska, actress (Deathtrap, Nicolas & Alexandra) 1922 Francis Thorne Bay Shore NY, composer (Burlesque Overture) 1927 Bob Fosse Chicago Ill, choreographer/director (Cabaret, Damn Yankees) 1929 Dave King Twickenham England, comedian (Kraft Music Hall) 1929 Henri Pousseur Malm�dy Belgium, composer (Homo Habitis) 1929 June Carter Cash Maces Spring Va, country singer (Johnny Cash Show) 1930 Donn F Eisele Columbus Ohio, Col USAF/astronaut (Apollo 7) 1933 Bert Convy game show host (Win, Lose or Draw) 1935 Gy�rgy K rp ti Hungary, water polo (Olympic-gold-1952, 56, 64) 1940 Adam Faith England, singer (Poor Me, What Do You Want?) 1940 Diana Trask Australia, singer (Sing Along With Mitch) 1940 Wilma Rudolph US, 100m/200m sprinter (Olympic-gold-1960) 1943 James Levine musical conductor (Tosca) 1946 Russ Thacker Wash DC, producer (Golden Seal) 1946 Ted Shackelford Okla City Okla, actor (Dallas, Knots Landing) 1950 Sally Geeson Sussex England, actress (Bless This House) 1953 Filbert Bayi Tanzania, 3,000m runner (Olympic-silver-1980) 1962 Paul LaGreca Bronx NY, actor 1964 Joey Allen Ft Wayne Indiana, rock guitarist (Warrant-Cherry Pie) 1964 Trent Bushey Haverhill Mass, actor (David Rampal-All My Children) 1967 Laurie Wood Orange Calif, playmate (March, 1989) On this day... 1683 William Penn signs friendship treaty with Lenni Lenape indians in Pennsylvania; only treaty "not sworn to, nor broken" 1757 Robert Clive defeats Indians at Plassey, wins control of Bengal 1760 Battle of Landshut, Silesia 1775 1st regatta held on Thames, England 1784 1st US balloon flight (13 year old Edward Warren) 1810 John Jacob Astor organizes Pacific Fur Co (Astoria, Oregon) 1848 Bloody insurrection of workers in Paris 1860 Congress establishes the Government Printing Office 1860 US Secret Service created 1865 At Fort Towson, Gen Stand Watie surrenders last sizeable army 1868 Christopher Latham Sholes patents "Type-writer" 1903 M Wolf discovers asteroid #512 Taurinensis 1915 Yanks get record 16 walks & 3 wild pitches beat A's Bruno Hass, 15-0 1917 Molla Bjurstedt wins the US Lawn Tennis Assn title Ernie Shore replaces Red Sox pitcher Babe Ruth with a runner on, he throws him out & retires all 26 he faces for a perfect game 1918 Boston Red Sox Dutch Leonard's 2nd no-hitter beats Tigers, 5-0 1924 V Albitzkij discovers asteroid #1022 Olympiada 1925 Landslides create 3-mile long "Slide Lake" (Gros Ventre Wyoming) 1927 Lou Gehrig hits 3 HRs in 11-4 victory over Red Sox 1930 Chicago Cubs beat Philadelphia Phillies 21-8 1931 Wiley Post & Harold Catty took off for flight around world 1938 Civil Aeronautics Authority (US) established 1938 Marineland opens in Florida-1st aquarium 1939 France turns over Sanjak of Alexandretta (the Hatay) to Turkey 1944 4 tornadoes strike Appalachia, killing 153 1944 Thomas Mann becomes a US citizen 1947 Truman's veto of Taft-Hartley Act overridden by congress 1949 1st 12 women graduate from Harvard Medical School 1950 Yanks & Tigers hit record 11 HRs, Tigers win 10-9 1951 British diplomats Guy Burgess & Donald Maclean flee to USSR 1951 Most expensive US hailstorm ($1.5M crop damage & $14M property-Kansas) 1954 122� F (50� C), Overton, Nevada (state record) 1955 Walt Disney's "Lady & the Tramp" released 1956 Gamal Abdel Nasser elected president of Egypt 1957 S B Nicholson discovers asteroid #1647 Menelaus 1961 Phillies overcome 9-0, losing 11-2 they score 4 in 8th & 6 in 9th 1961 USAF Maj Robert M White takes X-15 to 32,830 m 1963 Julius Boros wins golf's US Open 1963 NY Mets Jimmy Piersall, hits his 100th HR, he circles bases backwards 1967 Jim Ryun sets mile record of 3 min, 51.1 sec (Bakersfield, CA) 1967 John Entwistle of the rock group Who weds Alison Wise 1967 LBJ & Alexei Kosygin hold 1st of 2 summit meetings in Glassboro, NJ 1967 US Senate censures Thomas J Dodd (D-Ct) for misusing campaign funds 1969 Joe Frazier beats Jerry Quarry for the heavyweight boxing title 1969 Warren E Burger sworn in as Supreme Court Chief Justice 1970 Charles Rangel defeats Adam Clayton Powell in Democratic primary 1970 Rocker Chubby Checker arrest for marijuana pocession 1971 Phillies Rick Wise no-hits Cincinatti Reds, 4-0 1972 Hurricane Agnes is costliest natural disaster in American history 1972 Nixon & Haldeman agree to use CIA to cover up Watergate 1972 Pres Nixon signs act barring sex discrimination in college sports 1973 Phillies Ken Brett 4th consecutive game HR in which he pitched 1974 Sandra Haynie wins the LPGA byh 2 strokes over JoAnne Carner 1975 Rocker Alice Cooper falls of stage in Vancouver, breaks 6 ribs 1976 CCN Tower in Toronto, tallest free-standing structure (555 m) opens 1977 13th Mayor's Trophy Game, Mets beat Yanks 6-4 1979 The Charlie Daniels Band releases "Devil Went Down to Georgia" 1979 The rock group, the Knack releases "My Sharona" 1981 33-inning game ends, Pawtucket 3, Rochester 2 1981 Amanda Maccaro becomes 1st American to win Russian Ballet Competition 1981 NYC mayor Koch turns down a $7,500 offer to perform comedy 1982 -117� F; All time low at the South Pole 1982 Himmy, of Australia, weighs in at domestic cat record 20.7 kg (45 lb) 1985 Air India jet crashes near Ireland, 329 killed 1985 Bomb destroys Air India Boeing 747 in air near Ireland, 329 die 1985 Laffit Pncay Jr becomes the 2nd jockey to win $100 million 1986 Tip O'Neill refuses to let Reagan address House 1987 W Landgraf discovers asteroid #3683 Baumann 1988 Charlotte Hornets & Miami Heat begin their NBA expansion draft 1988 Yank manager Billy Martin's 5th term ends, Lou Pinella named manager 1989 The movie "Batman" premiers 1990 A rally to save Alien Nation from cancellation held at Stat of Liberty 1990 TV Guide selects Arsenio Hall as TV personality of the year 1991 Tony Randall & Jack Klugman star in Bdwy performance of Odd Couple

Is it true Shoshana As you see Pride and Prejudice You�re always in nirvana Since Firth does Darcy justice The day gets better and better You�ll soon be more diverted With all the fun to come later A happy day to you who�s feted

Look, I have a plan... We'll party here with the droolers for a bit and then head to your place... Have a great birthday Shoshana!!!

Excellent firepole. Thought I'd pop in (or would that be drop in?) and wish you a happy birthday, Shoshana!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SHOSHANA Glad you joined us here....

Oh Shoshona! I have been "lurking" at Drool and feel that you are the only one who can help me! I think I'm going out of my mind and my friend Randle here says you did much for him! Yep Shoshana baby, you've got the keys to the asylum........;-) You go by the "book" . Me and Adrianand Beedee (who's just visitin) gotta split now but, and I know it sounds crazy, we got something to say before Nurse Ratched shows up with those meds or worse.......

Happy Birthday to Shoshana, my fellow Georgia Girl and Drooler!! Hope your first birthday at Drool is ab-solutely fantastic!

Happy birthday again Shoshana! My picture has a tencency to disappear. Robbing from Geocities has it price;-) Just go to properties and paste in the address and he shows up. It must be the meds;-) God but I love birthday parties! Those pictures are such a treat for us all! I "have a plan" for him too.......

Oh goodie!! Another Drooleur Birthday!! Stop on by, Shoshana, and we'll have a drink, party, and have some cake. Happy Birthday Shoshana!

Am I in time for the party? And perhaps a nice hot cuppa? (I'll break off the handle later) Happy birthday, Shoshana!

Just picking up some sunglasses for later. These droolers party hard. Happy Birthday, Shoshana!

Thanks Everybody!!! This is wonderful and very special (and loads of fun)! You all (or should I say y'all) have been so frindly and accepting and really great friends on and off the conference. KJ - Could some one overdo Firth? Nevah!! Leah - it has been a great day so far, thank you! Annette - Nice, um,... shorts. I am eagerly awaiting Paul; I think he should be in the mail any day now. Tress - Wot? Not enough cake? There's no need to look so crestfallen. It will be alright! Josie - Great cake... and you got the number of candles just right! ;-) LisaJH - I never knew I shared a birthday with such illustrious characters. And even though I don't generally do horoscopes, that one is so me! 1894 Alfred Kinsey entomologist/sexologist (Kinsey Report) 1894 Duke of Windsor [King Edward VIII of England] (briefly in 1936) Sonia - Lovely poem! Many thanks! Maria - Thanks! Mark and I will be heading off soon... Evelyn - I really like the animation! Beedee - LOL!!! I needed a copy of the DSM-IV! You think if I gave Adrian some benzos he'd lighten up for the party? Hen - Yay for GRITS! This is fantastic! Karen - I knew you would have great pictures, but WOW! I love that first pic!!! Thanks. Rika - Lovely! And let Matthew know that he doesn't have to worry about being late; I'll wait. LindaK - Great glasses! Tres chic! Anyway, so I thought I'd make an extra cake just in case we ran out of Josie's. This is actually an anniversary cake to celebrate Colin's and Livia's on Saturday. Hopefully, there will be enough to go around! Great Party!

Oops. Closing tags. Guess I had too much cake.

*Sigh* Stupid bold.

Your cake is delish! Here's a little champagne selerction to go with it. Happy Birthday, Shoshana! I too loved that picture Karen brought in. It is worth repeating, I hope you don't mind. :-)

Shoshana! Fancy graphics I can't do. Try my best, It's just no use! But for the occasion I must rise to the call Happy Birthday to you Hope you have a ball! Cyndy

Mmmmmm, lovely, Shoshana. Ah, the cake looks good, too. ;-) Happy birthday, Shoshana! (This is another of my favorite endorphin-inducing photos.)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SHOSHANA!!!! And many many more. What a great party! Sorry I can't do any fancy pics or graphics, but I don't mind sharing Paul with you. Thank you Cheryl for the belated wishes. Very much appreciated.

I’m late? But I galloped the entire way, just to be here for Shoshana’s Birthday Party! And I brought cake!

Omigod . . . I almost missed Shoshana's birthday . . . But I've been so confused because I've seen her name linked to . . . . . .this man! Unless that's another Shoshana;-) Have a happy day, dear girl!

Let's see how many tags I can close... ;-D (you weren't the culprit, Shoshana) *wagging finger at more experienced persons*

Happy Birthday, Shoshana! I am so sorry I'm late but I hope you've had a wonderful day! Hoping I closed tags or else I'm gonna get finger wagging too;-)!

Have you checked Firthology Karen? I hope it worked.

Here are the upcoming birthdays for the rest of June and for July: Leah 6/30 LisaJH 7/8 Evelyn 7/13 EmmaB 7/18

@#$%*!!!!! From one of our papers yesterday: SEEN ON SCENE: Oscar-winning director Sam Mendes--without new bride Kate Winslet--slipped into town to catch one of the final performances of pal Richard Greenberg's "The Violet Hour" at Steppenwolf. The next time the play will be seen will be at the Manhattan Theatre Club in the Big Apple in October, with Scott Foley, Robert Sean Leonard and Jasmine Guy starring in that production. OK, I was at one of the final performaces of The Violet Hour this weekend and no Sam. Hmmm, perhaps if KW had been there I'd have noticed. ;-D Anyway, for those going to or in NYC, you must see The Violet Hour. It was very clever and very funny as you would expect from a Greenberg play. The second lead of Gidger is the scene-stealer. I shouldn't say too much about the play (though it too has to something to do with "time") as the fun is in the surprises.

Ah... I just wanted to thank Ada (such a lovely toast), Mari (indeed, that is another Shoshana as JS means nothing to me in the way CF does), Kathy (I have some towels if you need to remove that wet shirt), Pam (kind thoughts are even better than pictures), Lisa (yes, endorphins indeed), Cyndy (thanks for the poem), and Moon (oh, that picture is worth repeating)! I apologize for the lateness of my response; Mark Darcy kept me up all night! This was certainly a birthday of many fond memories!

So far, nothing by YKW: Toronto opens with 'Invasions' By Etan Vlessing TORONTO -- Denys Arcand's "The Barbarian Invasions" has been set to open the 28th Toronto International Film Festival on Sept. 4, it was announced Tuesday at a news conference here. This year's festival will also include the world premieres of Robert Altman's "The Company" and John Sayles' "Casa de Los Babys" and the North American premiere of Lars von Trier's "Dogville," a parable of small-town prejudice starring Nicole Kidman that Lions Gate Films has picked up for North American distribution. Arcand's latest movie, a sequel to his 1986 feature "The Decline of the American Empire," focuses on a man (Remy Girard) dying of cancer as he comes to terms with his life. It picked up two awards at this year's Festival de Cannes, and Miramax Films will release it domestically Nov. 21. It will open a festival that organizers hope will not be overshadowed by the SARS outbreak still affecting Toronto. Altman's latest film, about an up-and-coming ballet dancer played by Neve Campbell, will be brought to Toronto by Sony Pictures Classics. IFC Films is handling Sayles' feature, which is about a group of women adopting children in South America. Festival director Piers Handling was tight-lipped about other titles bound for Toronto, except to joke that he did not screen Vincent Gallo's controversial "The Brown Bunny" in Cannes and that "no invitation had yet gone out." At the same time, Handling and fellow Toronto programmers are taking to the road this week to see if they can snag from rival Venice International Film Festival several movies by top-drawer directors that were not yet ready for Cannes last month. These include Joel Coen's comedy "Intolerable Cruelty," starring George Clooney and Catherine Zeta-Jones; Quentin Tarantino's "Kill Bill"; Emir Kusturica's "Life Is a Miracle"; Wong Kar-wai's "2046"; Jane Campion's "In the Cut"; and Bernardo Bertolucci's "The Dreamers." Handling said organizers have drawn up a contingency plan in case a new outbreak of SARS threatens attendance at this year's event. He insisted he has been assured by Hollywood studio heads that, just as they now feel it's safe to shoot movies in Toronto again, they will bring their upcoming fall releases and star contingents to the festival in September. "It looks like the serious part of the (SARS) disease is well behind us," Handling said. "And I would imagine that, two months from now, you will have a film festival that features the same kinds of films, the same size of films and the same caliber of stars supporting those films." Other titles announced Tuesday include 12 movies slated for the Contemporary World Cinema sidebar, among them pictures that bowed at Cannes. These include Siddiq Barmak's "Osama," an Afghan-Japanese co-production about a 12-year-old Afghan girl forced to marry an elderly mullah to avoid execution that earned two awards in Cannes, and French filmmaker Julie Bertucelli's debut movie, "Depuis Qu'otar est Parti," another dual award winner at Cannes. Also set for unspooling in Toronto are Erik Matti's "Prosti," a drama about Filipino prostitutes; Norwegian director Bent Hamer and IFC's "Kitchen Stories"; Scottish director David Mackenzie's "Young Adam," a thriller starring Ewan McGregor; and French filmmaker Solveig Anspach's "Stormy Weather." Other titles in the sidebar include North American premieres for Roger Michell and SPC's "The Mother," Naomi Kawase's "Sharasojyu," Penny Woolcock's "The Principle of Lust," John Crowley III and IFC's "Intermission," Dagur Kari and Palm Pictures' "Noi Albinoi" and Siegfried's "Sansa," a film about a vagabond artist that originally premiered at Cannes. Another five titles were confirmed for the national cinema spotlight program this year on new Brazilian filmmakers. The sidebar will include the North American premiere of SPC and Hector Babenco's "Carandiru," which competed in Cannes and was a hit at the Brazilian boxoffice; Eliane Caffe's "The Storytellers"; Jose Padilha's documentary "Bus 174"; Jose Henrique Fonseca's "The Man of the Year"; and Renato Falcao's "Margarette's Feast." There are no new sidebars this year. Handling said the festival will "consolidate" this year behind the Visions and Wavelengths programs that had been started in recent years. About 250 movies are expected to unspool during the festival's Sept. 4-13 run. Announcements on the rest of the film lineup, including studio pictures, will be made in the coming weeks.

the North American premiere of Lars von Trier's "Dogville," a parable of small-town prejudice starring Nicole Kidman that Lions Gate Films has picked up for North American distribution. I am a fan of the Dogmar Manifesto and am looking forward to seeing this. It is getting special treatment for Lions Gate. But it is a miss for GWAPE. Then again, do those festival people really care about a period film? Toronto has been more about the nitty-gritty. Thanks, Karen. I like the foreign line-up.

(Moon)do those festival people really care about a period film? Do *audiences* care about period films? Esp if they don't have special effects or action...let alone not talking. Period films have been relegated to television. Where they are at their best as mini-series.

(Moon) I am a fan of the Dogmar Manifesto and am looking forward to seeing this. We were just talking about this at work the other day...so odd that it popped up again. I have never seen any of the films, but read the manifesto (and read one director's 'confession' to breaking some of the Vows of Chastity....something about intentially chasing a chicken onto the set to further the plot....). Here is a link in case anyone wants to check it out: http://www.dogme95.dk/menu/menuset.htm (Evelyn) Do *audiences* care about period films? Esp if they don't have special effects or action...let alone not talking. Ohhhh! I do! I do!!! Dangerous Liaisons (and Valmont), Elizabeth, Amadeus, Quills, Sense and Sensibility, Emma, The House of Mirth, Little Women, Age of Innocence, Howard's End....all those movies that make the DH groan and roll his eyes! Love them!

(Tress) and read one director's 'confession' to breaking some of the Vows of Chastity I've seen a number of the "Dogmes" and not-100%-Dogme films. As I recall, even good old Lars has broken a few of the rules. They're not at all as crude as one might think, but one (can't remember which) had a cute credits sequence, with a hand pushing hand-written cards with the names onto the screen. ;-D

(Evelyn) Do *audiences* care about period films? (Tress) Ohhhh! I do! I do!!! Me too, Tress. Audiences care about period films as long as they're well done and entertaining. From Variety 6/23/03: Miramax's dedication to musical remakes is understandable: In addition to winning six Oscars, "Chicago" passed the $282 million worldwide gross of "Shakespeare in Love" to become the studio's biggest grosser at more than $300 million.

Aw, c'mon. Do we need 150 postings affirming you like period pieces. Would you be here otherwise? Present company is always excluded. The fact is in the current climate they bomb at the box office.SIL was a fluke. Besides Gwynnie and Ben Affleck worked their tails off to promote it. Without them (and Harvey's muscle)it was have tanked. Did ya' see Keen Eddie last night? He took Fiona's hand, like Mr Darcy...with camera zooming in. *sigh* Things are starting to heat up....

(Evelyn) Would you be here otherwise? A given for the older members of Drool. Quite a few of our new slobbering Droolers came onboard as a result of BJD. I'm more of the "costume-less" type if you get my drift. ;-D

(Karen), I'm more of the "costume-less" type if you get my drift. ;-D LOL! Shouldn't this statement come with a picture? ;-)

(Karen), I'm more of the "costume-less" type if you get my drift. ;-D (Moon Dreams)LOL! Shouldn't this statement come with a picture? ;-) You took the words right out of my mouth!! LOL (I like this song!) And I think I'm with Karen on the "type-casting". Have to say I know a lot of people (not droolers) who also like period-stuff, but I think Evelyn is right: it's more a "tv-thing".

A little bird told me that my name had a "cameo" appearance on these pages as one of the Gemini birthday celebrants. I just want to thank those who sent - ie KJ - (or were about to send) bday wishes last June 20. You are all very kind. Happy birthday to all the other Geminis too. Sadly, as Karen said, I do not get much chance to give vent to my Firthacoholism these days. I rely totally on those kind souls who remember to drop me a line once in a while for those earth-shaking Colin news. You know who you are - thank you. I see that it is still rockin' and rollin' here. Karen - the colinfirth website looks fantastic. As always, witty contributions continue on these pages. Good on you guys and more power! Would you believe it - the last movie I have seen of ODB was "Earnest"!!! Depravity most serious! By the way - had to change email address. If not on spring list - here it is - minkee2spring@hotmail.com. Take care all!

Because this was a topic of discussion recently, I thought some might be interested in this article reprinted in today's Vancouver Sun. I just hope taxpayers' money wasn't behind this study. Milk or tea in first? Scientists battle over brewing Study Scientist argues milk goes in first, but others contend water temperature key by Matt Born Daily Telegraph LONDON � The secret of how to make the perfect cup of tea has finally been discovered by British scientists � put the milk in first. The finding that a cup of tea tastes better if the tea is poured on to the milk appeared to have settled a debate that has long preoccupied a nation of tea drinkers. However, only hours after the royal Society of Chemistry unveiled its findings amid the sort of secrecy usually reserved for the national budget, a row was brewing within the scientific community. The spat began after Andrew Stapley, a chemical engineer at Loughborough University, revealed what he claimed was the recipe for the perfect cup of tea. Stapley spent two months studying comparing tea from India and China, cups versus mugs, as part of research to mark centenary Wednesday of the birth of George Orwell, the author and celebrated tea drinker. He said the keys to producing the perfect cup were using soft water, warming the pot before filling and allowing the tea to brew for three minutes. It was also essential to use loose-leaf Assam tea rather than tea bags that �slow down the infusion�. As to the vexed issue of whether the milk or tea should be poured in first, Stapley said science proved it must be the former. The reason is that when milk is exposed to high temperatures, such as being poured into a cup of piping hot tea, its proteins tend to degrade, producing a slightly stale taste. His conclusions would not have found favour with Orwell, who was adamant that the milk should be added after the tea so that the drinker �can exactly regulate� the final colour. But, as Orwell also pointed out, the art of making tea has �long been a subject of violent debate�. Sure enough, within hours of Stapley announcing his findings to the world, a storm was brewing. Julia King, head of the Institute of Physics, said the secret was to keep the water temperature at 98 C. Putting the milk in first was a cultural quirk, she said. �It is a habit we have retained from the times when only the rich could afford porcelain which, because it isn�t as porous as china, could withstand the hot tea being poured directly. �Those of us with cheap china had to put the milk in first to cool the tea slightly to prevent our cups cracking.�

Glad science has finally made the call. I can rest easy now. ;-D And now for something completely different: (How much did WAGW make??) 'Beckham' Scores with American Moviegoers Fri Jun 27 By Ian Mohr NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - Indiewood hasn't rolled out any "Big Fat Greek Weddings" this year to challenge the likes of such studio standard-bearers as Nemo, Neo or the Hulk, but a soccer chick from left field has been quietly upstaging several other big-budget hopefuls. Fox Searchlight and director Gurinder Chadha's "Bend It Like Beckham" -- the story of Jess, whose parents want her to be a nice, conventional 18-year-old Indian girl but who loves playing soccer like her hero David Beckham -- has rolled to more than $23 million since its March opening on six screens. Now in its 16th week, "Beckham" has moved to 301 theaters and is still playing five of its original six screens in major markets. Following a template set last year by "Greek Wedding," "Y Tu Mama Tambien" and "Monsoon Wedding," "Beckham" is an indie hit that has connected with a core ethnic audience and then moved mainstream. Although reviews have been largely positive -- the Web site RottenTomatoes gauges that 88% of critics have lauded the film -- Searchlight says that "Beckham's" success is more likely because of the 400 "word-of-mouth" screenings the company held nationally for groups like girls' soccer teams and their parents. The movie is playing particularly well in the Washington and Baltimore areas and in such places as Philadelphia, Chicago, Seattle, Los Angeles and San Francisco. "The film has exceeded our basic expectations," says Searchlight distribution president Steve Gilula, who adds that "Beckham" has exceeded such fellow feel-good foreign fare as "Billy Elliot" and "Waking Ned Devine." "(The film's success) has been very unusual for a picture not released in the fall or the Academy Awards season to boost it. And also for a film from an unknown filmmaker -- this isn't Robert Altman coming back with 'Gosford Park."' Gilula adds that "Beckham" has been boosted lately by American awareness of U.K. soccer star Beckham and the emergence of "Beckham" co-star Keira Knightley as the lead in the Walt Disney Co.'s upcoming "Pirates of the Caribbean." In fact, "Beckham" has become 2003 parlance in the indie world for "hit." Another film from another unknown female filmmaker about another young girl trying to break from her culture's traditional female roles -- Newmarket Films' New Zealand-set "Whale Rider" -- is looking to ride a similar wave. Observes Gilula from his catbird seat: "I don't know if it's coincidental (that these types of films are becoming hits). 'Whale Rider' is ethnic, and it deals with family relationships. 'Beckham' has been playing best with middle-aged men who are fathers of young women. You very rarely see those relationships, except as caricatures. When you have these kinds of stories, you can reach broader audiences." According to RottenTomatoes, "Whale," directed by New Zealander Niki Caro, has a 94% favorable rating with critics, and the film about a young girl who must defy her grandfather to take a leadership position in her Maori community has taken in more than $1 million in three weeks. After screening at fests in Toronto and Sundance, the film has won a handful of regional film festivals, from Seattle to Maui. "'Whale Rider' is looking to be our big breakthrough film," says Newmarket Films chief Bob Berney, who was at IFC Films during the "Greek Wedding" ride. Berney is projecting that "Whale" will hit "at least $10 million-$12 million" or could possibly ride into "'Beckham' territory." "What we're trying to do is find more challenging art films," he says, "and then find crossover films like 'Whale Rider."'

A veritable Who's Who type cast: Party of four add names to 'Beauty' show By Ian Mohr NEW YORK -- Artisan Entertainment has added Rupert Everett, Tom Wilkinson, Ben Chaplin and Richard Griffiths to the cast of its U.K.-set period piece "Compleat Female Stage Beauty." Also joining the project -- which stars Billy Crudup and Claire Danes -- are Hugh Bonneville, Edward Fox, Tom Hollander, Clare Higgins, Fenella Woolgar, Alice Eve and Zoe Tapper. Set in 17th century London, "Beauty" is the real-life story of cross-dressing actor Edward Kynaston and is being helmed by Richard Eyre from a script by Jeffrey Hatcher, based on his stage play. Currently in production, "Beauty" is being co-produced and financed through N1 European Filmproduktions in association with Qwerty Films. Robert De Niro, Jane Rosenthal and Hardy Justice are also producing for Tribeca Prods., with Michael Dreyer serving as co-producer. Executive producers are Michael Kuhn, James D. Stern and Eyre. "Beauty" will be released domestically by Artisan, which optioned and developed the project with Tribeca.

"Whale Rider" -- is looking to ride a similar wave. "'Whale Rider' is looking to be our big breakthrough film," Berney is projecting that "Whale" will hit "at least $10 million-$12 million" or could possibly ride into "'Beckham' territory." Go see this movie! It deserves to do very well. Set in 17th century London, "Beauty" is the real-life story of cross-dressing actor Edward Kynaston Hmmm. Seems a natural part for Eddie Izzard. But then not much of a challenge. Are you familiar with him? British comedian, transvestite, who has done a few films and just finished a B'dway run (last year West End) in the revival of A Day in the Death of Joe Egg. Had a comedy special on HBO called Dressed to Kill. I'm sure he's not to everyone's taste.

Hmmm. Seems a natural part for Eddie Izzard. But then not much of a challenge. Are you familiar with him? British comedian, transvestite, who has done a few films and just finished a B'dway run (last year West End) in the revival of A Day in the Death of Joe Egg. Had a comedy special on HBO called Dressed to Kill. I'm sure he's not to everyone's taste. Perhaps not, but I find him very funny and intelligent! Have seen him on the telly a number of times and he always gets a laugh out of me. Most recently saw him on Dinner for Five (IFC)

How odd does this sound?...... Report: Sam Mendes to Direct 'Shrek-The Musical' 15 minutes ago -- Yahoo News Andrew Gans Playbill On-Line Another Hollywood film is headed for the stage. The New York Post reports that "Shrek" - the DreamWorks film about a green ogre with a heart of gold - is headed to the Great White Way. Sam Mendes (news), who directed this season's hit revival of Gypsy starring Bernadette Peters (news), will helm the musical, which has yet to find a book writer or songwriting team. As previously reported on Playbill On-Line, DreamWorks also hopes to bring a musical version of "Catch Me If You Can" - the recent Steven Spielberg (news) film starring Leonardo DiCaprio (news) - to Broadway. That musical will feature songs by the 2003 Tony-winning composing duo, Scott Wittman and Marc Shaiman. Sam Mendes founded London's intimate theatre space, the Donmar Warehouse. During his decade at the Donmar, the theatre presented productions of Cabaret, Into the Woods, Orpheus Descending, The Real Thing, Proof, Company and The Blue Room. Several of those productions found their way to Broadway, including the Tony-winning revival of Cabaret, which is still going strong at Studio 54. Mendes has also achieved success on screen, including an Academy Award for "American Beauty." His most recent film outing was "Road to Perdition" starring Tom Hanks.

I plan to see "Whale Rider" tonight. Happy to see hat Tribecca films is inteested in producing period films. Thanks for the articles, ladies. BTW, I am with Orwell, the milk goes in after the tea. It's he only way to perfectly regulate the colour. Then again, I mixed my own tea formula. :-D Serious tea drinker here.

"bring a musical version of "Catch Me If You Can" - the recent Steven Spielberg (news) film starring Leonardo DiCaprio (news) - to Broadway. That musical will feature songs by the 2003 Tony-winning composing duo, Scott Wittman and Marc Shaiman." This will be a winning-music/story -combo. Wittman/Shaiman did Tony-winner"Hairspray" and the movie "Down with Love". Thanks Dorine.

From Screendaily: Calendar Girls set for US Christmas date Nick Hunt in Amsterdam Last month it took the international press at Cannes by storm. This week it was the turn of attendees at Cinema Expo in Amsterdam to fall under the spell of the Calendar Girls. Constant guffaws, frequent applause and stifled bouts of tearful sniffing punctuated the morning screening of the gentle comedy-drama, about a middle-aged group of northern English women who strip for a charity calendar. Introducing the feature, Daniel Battsek, senior vice-president of distribution and managing director of Buena Vista International UK, which developed and backed the Harbour Pictures production, told the audience that many had begun to rename the film as "the female Full Monty", adding: "I believe it has the potential to connect with audiences worldwide." Mark Zoradi, president of Buena Vista International, added a North American seal of approval by saying that Calendar Girls will now roll out in the US on Xmas Day. "If they put it on that day or in that zone then it means they have great faith in it." After the screening Battsek told Screen International: "You never want to pre-judge these things, but you can see from this screening here that it's a British film but that it has got universal themes that people everywhere can relate to." A straw poll of industry delegates from distribution, exhibition and institutional firms in Belgium, Poland and Italy after the screening revealed that Calendar Girls' appeal would indeed stretch beyond English-language territories - even if they were unfamiliar with the Women's Institute, the ultra-conservative female organisation central to the story. Produced by Nick Barton and Suzanne Mackie at Harbour, and directed by Nigel Cole (Saving Grace), the film is the third to emerge from BVI's UK office under its comedy label after High Heels, Low Lives and Hope Springs. [Ed note: excellent pedigree, don't you think?] Battsek reserved particular praise for Kristin Jones, the label's head of development for bringing the project to the table. "She is central to the whole process."

(Dorine) Hmmm. Seems a natural part for Eddie Izzard. But then not much of a challenge. Are you familiar with him? British comedian, transvestite, who has done a few films and just finished a B'dway run.... Love Eddie.....cracks me up. He did a bit (can't remember which show) about the difference between British film and American film. V. v. funny. Moon.....I do it your (and Orwell's) way.....milk after tea. I'm a color regulator and it always depends on the size of the cup (size does matter). My DH (the engineer) was reading the article posted by Sandy over my shoulder and finds the whole issue wildly amusing. Couldn't believe that scientists were working on such a project (I just think he's a bit jealous that people could get paid to do work like that)!

directed by Nigel Cole (Saving Grace), I have high-ish hope though, as I loved this little movie. Thanks. (Tress) I do it your (and Orwell's) way.....milk after tea. I'm a color regulator and it always depends on the size of the cup My way, too. Never thought to do it any other way.

I highly recommend "Whale Rider," I will get my boys to see it too. Calendar Girls, "the female Full Monty". I didn't care for TFM. Only the gnomes saved it.

From Dark Horizons, shades of SIL: Compleat Female Stage Beauty: In an official press release today, Artisan revealed that principal photography begins today on this British comedy from Director Richard Eyre ("Iris", "The Crucible") and which features the likes of Billy Crudup, Claire Danes, Rupert Everett, Tom Wilkinson, Ben Chaplin, Tom Hollander, Richard Griffiths and Edward Fox. Set in the 1660's at a time when in live theatre women's roles were played by men, Edward �Ned� Kynaston (Crudup) is England�s most celebrated leading lady, using his beauty and skill to make the great female roles his own. But when Charles II is tired of seeing the same old performers, the ruler allows real women to tread the boards and men may no longer play women�s parts. Ned becomes a virtual nobody, virtually overnight and seems headed for suicide till his ex-dresser turned actress Maria (Danes) takes it upon herself to make a man of him again. Shooting takes place at the Royal Naval College at Greenwich, whilst two theatres will be built at Shepperton Studi s where filming continues through till August 22nd. Thanks to 'JM'.

Just saw this on AOL... OLD SAYBROOK, Conn. (June 29) - Katharine Hepburn, an icon of feminist strength and spirit who brought a chiseled beauty and patrician bearing to such films as ''The Philadelphia Story'' and ''The African Queen,'' died Sunday, her executor and town authorities said. She was 96. Town authorities and the executor of Hepburn's estate, Cynthia McFadden, said Hepburn died Sunday at 2:50 p.m. at her home in Old Saybrook. She had been in declining health in recent years. During her 60-year career, she won a record four Academy Awards and was nominated 12 times, which stood as a record until Meryl Streep surpassed her nomination total in 2003. Her Oscars were for ''Morning Glory,'' 1933; ''Guess Who's Coming to Dinner,'' 1967; ''A Lion in Winter,'' 1968; and ''On Golden Pond,'' 1981. Despite her success, Hepburn always felt she could have done more. ''I could have accomplished three times what I've accomplished,'' she once said. ''I haven't realized my full potential. It's disgusting.'' But, she said, ''Life's what's important. Walking, houses, family. Birth and pain and joy - and then death. Acting's just waiting for the custard pie. That's all.''

Ada)Just saw this on AOL... OLD SAYBROOK, Conn. (June 29) - Katharine Hepburn, an icon of feminist strength and spirit who brought a chiseled beauty and patrician bearing to such films as ''The Philadelphia Story'' and ''The African Queen,'' died Sunday, her executor and town authorities said. She was 96. Oh yes...... I loved Katharine and her films. I recently saw The Lion in Winter and was still facinated by her and *bought* her portrayal of an aging beauty, strong and more than a match..... I can't remember a film of hers that I didn't enjoy and find her characters as a strong woman worth respecting.

Good night Kate.........

I'll be looking for you, Leah, early next year.

Happy Birthday, Leah! Perhaps you can provide a little moral support when I arrive...or at least a kissing lesson or two. ;-)

Happy Birthday, Leah, once more! IF JUNE 30 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you have a cheerful personality with deep philosophical interests. You're adventurous with an interest in languages and a love of sports, perhaps horse riding. You're serious where love and romance are concerned. Disappointments don't deter you. With responsibility and hard work, you can advance greatly this year and achieve much. November is promising for romance; October for work and money. *********************** Birthdates which occurred on June 30: 1470 Charles VIII king of France (1483-98), invaded Italy 1685 John Gay author (Baggars' Opera) 1768 Elizabeth Kortright Monroe 1st lady 1811 Vissarion Belinsky Sveaborg, Finland, Russian critic, journalist 1819 William A Wheeler (R) 19th VP (1877-81) 1837 Stephen D Ramseur youngest West Pointer to be Maj Gen 1896 Wilfred Pelletier Montreal Canada, conductor (Voice of Firestone) 1898 George Chandler Waukegan Ill, actor (Lassie) 19-- Chris Risola Ct, rocker (Steelheart-She's Gone) 19-- Harvey Vernon Flint Mich, actor (Jasper-Carter Country) 19-- Phil Anselmo rocker (Pantera-Cowboys From Hell) 19-- Terry Funk Hammond Ind, pro wrestler/actor (Paradise Alley) 19-- Yngwie Maimsteen rocker (Eclipse, Oddysey) 1909 Juan Bosch poet/pres of the Dominican Republic (1962-63) 1911 Czeslaw Milosz Polish/American writer (Nobel 1980) 1912 Dan Reeves NFL team owner (Cleveland/LA Rams) 1913 Harry Wismer Port Huron Mich, AFL owner (NY Titans) 1916 David Wayne actor (Adam's Rib, Andromeda Strain, 3 Faces of Eve) 1917 Buddy Rich Bkln NY, drummer/orch leader (Buddy Rich Band-Away We Go) 1917 Lena Horne Bkln NY, singer (Stormy Weather) 1918 Stuart Foster Binghamton NY, singer (Galen Drake Show) 1918 Susan Hayward Flatbush Bkln, actress (I Want to Live, Tulsa) 1920 Zeno Colo Italy, downhill skier (Olympic-gold-1952) 1925 Micheline Lannoy Belgium, figure skating pairs (Olympic-gold-1948) 1930 June Valli Bronx NY, singer (Your Hit Parade) 1934 Harry Blackstone Jr magician (Blackstone Book of Magic & Illusion) 1936 Nancy Dussault Pensacola Fla, actress (Muriel-Too Close for Comfort) 1936 Tony Musante Bridgeport Ct, actor (David Toma-Toma, Nowhere to Hide) 1938 Billy Mills US, 10K runner (Olympic-gold-1964) 1943 Florence Ballard singer (Supremes) 1944 Glenn Shorrock vocalist (Little River Band-Help Is On Its, Way) 1944 Ron Swoboda baseball outfielder (NY Yankees, NY Mets) 1950 Donna Jean Willmott Akron Ohio, FALN member (FBI most wanted) 1951 Stanley Clarke bass (New Barbarians-Find Out Hideaway) 1951 Stephen S Oswald Seattle Washington, astronaut (STS 42) 1958 Esa-Pekka Salonen Helsinki Finland, conductor (Giro) 1962 Julianne Regan rocker (All About Eve-All About Scarlet) 1966 "Iron" Mike Tyson heavyweight boxing champ (1986-90) 1967 Tina Bockrath Dayton Oh, playmate (May, 1990) 1970 Brian Bloom actor (As the World Turns) On this day... 296 St Marcellinus begins his reign as Catholic Pope 1294 Jews are expelled from Berne Switzerland 1607 Annales Ecclesiastici (Scientific History of Catholicism) published 1741 Pope Benedict XIV encyclical forbidding traffic in alms 1794 Battle of Fort Recovery, Ohio 1834 Congress creates Indian Territory (now Oklahoma) 1859 Charles Blondin is 1st to cross Niagara Falls on a tightrope 1862 Day 6 of the 7 Days-Battle of White Oak Swamp 1870 Ada Kepley becomes 1st female law college graduate 1871 Guatemala revolts for agarian reforms 1881 Henry Highland Garnet, named minister to Liberia 1893 Excelsior diamond (blue-white 995 carats) discovered 1894 Korea declares independence from China, asks for Japanese aid 1900 4 German liners burn at Hobokon Docks NJ, 326 die 1902 S I Bailey discovers asteroid #504 Cora 1906 John Hope becomes 1st black president of Morehouse College 1906 Pure Food & Drug Act & Meat Inspection Act adopted 1908 Boston's Cy Young's 2nd no-hitter, beats NY Highlanders, 8-0 1908 Giant fireball impacts in Central Siberia (Tunguska Event) 1911 US Assay Office in St Louis, Missouri closes 1913 2nd Balkan War begins 1913 NY Giants score 10 in 10th to beat Phillies 11-1 1914 Mahatma Gandhi's 1st arrest, campaigning for Indian rights in S Africa 1916 Chick Evans Jr wins golf's US Open 1923 New Zealand claims Ross Dependency in Antarctica 1927 Augusto Cesar Sandino issues his Manifesto Politico 1927 US Assay Office in Deadwood, South Dakota closes 1928 Radio Service Bulletin lists radio stations call signs that are to be changed to conform with international standards 1929 Bobby Jones wins golf's US Open 1930 1st round-the-world radio broadcast Schenectady NY 1933 Card's Dizzy Dean strikesout 17 Cubs to win 8-2 1933 US Assay Offices in Helena Mon, Boise Id & Salt Lake City Utah closes 1934 "Night of the Long Knives," Hitler stages bloody purge of Nazi party 1934 French Equitorial Africa constituted a single administrative unit 1934 NFL's Portsmouth Spartans become Detroit Lions 1935 C Jackson discovers asteroid #1784 Benguella 1936 "Gone With the Wind" by Margaret Mitchell, published 1936 40 hour work week law approved (federal) 1938 Final game at Phila's Baker Bowl, Giants beat Phils 14-1 1939 Heinkel He. 176 rocket plane flies for 1st time, at Peenem�nde 1940 "Brenda Starr" cartoon strip, by Dale Messick, 1st appears 1940 US Fish & Wildlife Service established 1942 US Mint in New Orleans ceases operation 1948 Cleve Indian Bob Lemon no-hits Detroit Tigers, 2-0 1948 Transistor as a substitute for Radio tubes announced (Bell Labs) 1950 Pres Truman orders US troops into Korea 1951 NAACP begins attack on school segregation & discrimination 1952 "The Guiding Light" soap opera moves from radio to TV 1954 Yank pitcher Tom Morgan ties record by hitting 3 batters in 1 inning This was also Bobby Brown's last game; he retired to become a doctor 1956 United DC-7 & TWA collide over Grand Canyon killing 128 1959 During a game in Wrigley Field, 2 balls were in play at same time 1960 Za�re (then Belgian Congo) gains independence from Belgium 1961 Explorer (12) fails to reach Earth orbit 1962 LA Dodger Sandy Koufax no-hits NY Mets, 5-0 1962 Murie Lindstrom wins US Women's Golf Open 1962 Rwanda & Burundi become independent 1963 Cardinal Montini elected Pope Paul VI, 262nd head of RC Church 1964 Centaur 3 launch vehicle fails to make Earth orbit 1965 NFL grants Atlanta Falcons a franchise 1966 Beatles land in Tokyo for a concert tour 1967 Maj Robert H Lawrence Jr named 1st black astronaut 1967 Phillies Cookie Rojas pitches, plays 9th positions since joining Phils 1969 Derek Clayton of Australia sets Marathon record at 2:08:34 1969 Spain cedes Ifni to Morocco 1970 1st baseball game at Cincinnati's Riverfront Stadium 1970 Brazil beats Italy 4-1 in soccer's 9th World Cup at Mexico City 1970 T Smirnova discovers asteroid #2139 Makharadze 1971 Ohio becomes the 38th state to approve of lower the voting age to 18, thus ratifying the 26th admendment 1972 1st leap second day; also 1981, 1982, 1983, 1985 1972 Cincinnati Reds are 11 games back in NL, & go on to win the pennant 1973 Observers aboard Concorde jet observe 72-min solar eclipse 1974 Petty thief Peter Leonard sets fire to cover burglary that torches "Gulliver's" nightclub. 24 die (Port Chester NY) 1975 Bundy victim Shelley Robertson disappears in Colorado 1975 Cher, just 4 days after divorcing Sonny Bono marries Gregg Allman 1976 John Walker of New Zealand sets record for 2000 m, 4:51.4 1977 Jimmy Carter cans B-1A bomber later "B-1's the B-52" 1977 Marvel Comics publish the "Kiss book" tributing the rock group Kiss 1977 US Railway Post Office final train run (NY to Wash DC) 1977 Yankee DH Cliff Johnson hit 3 consecutive HRs in Toronto 1978 Larry Doby becomes manager of the Chicago White Sox 1978 Willie McCovey becomes the 12th to hit 500 HRs 1979 Johnny Rotten & Joan Collins appear together on BBC's Juke Box Jury 1981 China's Communist Party condemns the late Mao Tse-tung's policy 1982 Federal Equal Rights Amendment fails 3 states short of ratification 1982 Orbiter Challenger (OV-099) rolled out at Palmdale NJ NHL franchise officially named the Devils by fan balloting, runner-up names are Blades, Meadowlanders & Americans 1984 Longest pro football game, LA Express beats Mich Panthers 27-21 in USFL playoffs, games lats 93 minutes 33 seconds 1985 39 remaining hostages from Flight 847 are freed in Beirut 1985 LA Dodger Pedro Gonzalez sets NL record of 15 HRs in June 1986 Georgia sodomy law upheld by Supreme Court (5-4) 1987 Patrik Sjoberg of Sweden set a new world record in the high jump 1988 Brooklyn dedicates a bus depot honoring Jackie Gleason 1989 Attorney General Thornburgh orders Joseph Doherty deported to the UK 1989 Congressman Lukins found guilty of having sex with a 16 year old girl 1989 NASA closes down tracking stations in Santiago, Chile & Guam 1989 NY State Legislature passes Staten Island seccession bill

WOT? Leah's birthday. Excellent. I'll bring the balloons.

Twice, I'll bring the balloons. HD isn't good when he' in a rush.

i have been so busy these past 10 days, i didn't even have time to say happy birthday to all of you, pam, beedee, shoshana... shame shame shame ! hopefully, here comes leah's bday, and the opportunity to make amends. now, maybe you'd forgive me if i told you henry's been waiting for you on the dance floor. of course, we are not talking waltz chacha or paso doble here, just plain wiggling : now, would that be the butterfly, or our good old west african danse du ventilateur ? animatronicolin 1.6, henry on the dancefloor mode *108 ko file, warning* ain't he lekker ? happy belated and not-so-belated birthday to all of you

Happy Birthday, dear Leah I baked a 'bahnahnah' cake ...just for you...

LOL Sophie! Love the lovely dancing Henry. Talk about a maniac on the floor! Happy Birthday Leah. Your guests so far are ab-so-lute-ly gorgeous!

LOL Sophie...ole Swivel -Hips is the best one yet:-))) Hey boss...you should put him on the WAGW title page. Definite ass..et;-)

Sophie! I love it. LOL,that animation might land him in the Dirty Dancing sequel! ;-) Er ist sehr lekker. ;-)

Leah!!

Leah, a birthday toast for you:

(Linda) Twice, I'll bring the balloons. *snort* Can't have too many balloons I've always heard. ;-D Best one yet, Soph. A real "shake, shake, shake" moment that lasts forever.

Now is a time for a little rhyme, And there�s inspiration again. ODB is here, that makes it clear It�s time for a birthday refrain. So Leah I�ll say though you�re far away In cyberspace you�re near. Happy Birthday to you, with bahnahnah cake too We�ll celebrate you here.

Leah Have a great one!

Oh Leah, We hope you are still awake! Beedee started trying to ship me out to your land far away this morning with me looking clean shaven and in a tux. Now I fear that I am not as presentable as I would wish...but BD says that you'll take me just as I am. So here I am wishing you a very happy birthday. Seeing you makes me feel better already!

Wow Sophie! That surely was worth the wait! Hunk Daddy can rock for me anyday!

Sophie, that was the best. Oh that bum looks so great. (Evelyn)Hey boss...you should put him on the WAGW title page. Definite ass..et;-) What a brilliant idea! I'll second that ass..et;-)

M: I reckon I can screw this up, too, Colin. C: I reckon even you couldn't screw it up, Mark. M: Can too. C: Can not. M: Can too. C: Can not. Look, just read what you wrote at the hotel last night. M: Alright, here goes. Enjoy the anniversary of the day you were born, Leah. C: Chrissakes, all you had to do was write Happy Birthday, Leah! Mark, as they say in Vermont, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

ROTF, Mari! Happy Birthday, Leah! Hope to see more of you!

Sohie, thanks for the shake-your-bootie-animatronicolin. August 05 doesn't seem too far away. :-) Ada, thanks for the info on Katherine Hepburn. She was a favorite of mine. RIP, Kate.

Must proofread postings. Should read Sophie, of course, not Sohie. M: I reckon I can screw this up, too, Colin. Where there's a will, there's a way. ;-) LOL Mari. Nice pic too. Don't recall seeing that one before.

Sophie, c'est magnifique! Karen, what a treat on the WAGW page. You should consider it.

To Leah-- (Evelyn)LOL Sophie...ole Swivel -Hips is the best one yet:-))) Sophie, that animation is... beyond words! ;-) Thanks!

Way to go, Sophie -- the best yet ... And by all means, Leah, have a

Leah ! Great animatronic CF, Sophie!

Love the leather clad animatronic....was looking for the words to 'Shake Your Bootie' (by KC and his band), but found the lyrics to a Geri Halliwell song that cracked me up....so here you go (chorus three of 'Shake Your Bootie Cutie'): Shake your bootie cutie And show me you can dance Come on, sexy belly baby I wanna watch you swing your pants, yeah Shake your bootie cutie You are the dancing king I'm Mr. Big, baby can you dig Everytime you do it You really make my thing sing Thank you Sophie!!!!

Leah,I just wanted to wish you a happy birthday while wearing your favorite pair of jeans;-)!! Oh, I agree, Great animatronic CF, Sophie!

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have had a great birthday. Karen, I'll be waiting for him LisaJH, Kissing lessons are no problem for me LindaK, I think HD is good, rushing or not Sophi, OH YES ! Evelyn, My favorite singer Hen, Yes, only the best get invites Tress, Love the pic Rika, Love the pic Sonia, Love the poem MariaT, will do Beedee, You're right, I'll take him anyway I can Mari, LOL MoonDreams, You will, you will. Shoshana, Thanks KJArt, Thank you KathyF, Thank you AdaVH, With the jeans, without the jeans, he can wish me any way he wants. Everybody, thank you for a great day. I received tickets to the South African 'premiere' of WAGW from the DH, although I think it's only the 'preview'. But whatever... I'm sure I'll enjoy it!!

Leah, I realize I'm coming in a day late, but HAPPY B-DAY!!!! Enjoy your preview of WAGW--what a nice present from the DH! Prepare to drool!! :)

(Meredith) Prepare to drool!! :) Thanks, I was prepared to wait until 25 July - official opening in SA, but 6 July is just around the corner, so the excitement is building. (Unfortunately, there will be an almost 3 week delay before I can see HD again)

(Leah)I received tickets to the South African 'premiere' of WAGW from the DH, although I think it's only the 'preview'. But whatever... I'm sure I'll enjoy it!! What a guy...a keeper! Goes into the Drool DH Hall of Fame;-) Right up there with "Top Gun" Lora's DH!

This really is a bit of fluff, but it gave me a chuckle. In the July issue of Vanity Fair, with Amanda Bynes on the cover(and all the other "pop teens"), the reporter talks about WAGW and describes it as exercise in effervescence that raised the disturbing question "What's Colin Firth doing in this film?" All I could think to that is, he's being our Hunk Daddy, thank you;-)!

"What's Colin Firth doing in this film?" ...One hell-of-a damn good job! Again, the comment was made, IMHO, by someone who hasn't seen the film. Just like the(IMO, again) viewless review by Ebert and Roper, whom I give Two Huge Thumbs down. There, I've had my say. Leah, enjoy the preview. You'll be drooling all summer. Lucky girl.

"What's Colin Firth doing in this film?" Looking AFG! And expanding into a whole new demographic? He needs those tweens to bring down the average age of his fan base. ;-) (Linda)viewless review Good expression! (feeling better now?)

(LindaK)You'll be drooling all summer. Lucky girl. Ahem.. Actually, I'll be drooling all winter - we're freezing our butts off here. (KateF)"What's Colin Firth doing in this film?" Looking AFG! Good. Thats all thats required at this stage.

(Evelyn)What a guy...a keeper! Goes into the Drool DH Hall of Fame;-) Lets not get carried away. He won't be attending with me.(I'm not sitting through that!) I had to ask a friend (who hasn't a clue who CF is - hasn't even seen BJD). I spent a good few minutes explaning who he was, and was pleasantly surprised when the DH could name at least 10 films CF has starred in.

(KateF)"What's Colin Firth doing in this film?" I read that quote in the Vanity Fair article. And in a sad sort of way, I found it a back-handed compliment. Inference: "He can do better than this". Here is a writer who views him as a serious, classically trained actor and wonders what he's doing in a teen flick. I must admit, I had the same reaction. Albeit, it's a cute movie and he does look AFG. (Pl. don't bombard me with 100 postings telling me how he has to support a family and all the blah, blah that goes with it.)

(Evelyn) Here is a writer who views him as a serious, classically trained actor... Did you forget the Shakespearean part? *snicker* No, that's exactly how I would interpret the Vanity Fair comment. No one is criticizing him or his performance. Just, he can do better than that.

Evelyn, I came across The Dead People Server today by chance and thought of you, as now you'll never have to watch another movie with dead people in it ever again, as you can first check here on their "status." ;-) Consider it an early birthday present. ;-)

Hey Lisa! "The Dead People Server" is a great resource! Can I use it too? I especially like the "Quash those Death Rumors" feature. Wonder how Evelyn feels about the *merely presumed dead*? Or the most likely dead, or the Grateful Dead?

(Beedee) Hey Lisa! "The Dead People Server" is a great resource! Can I use it too? But of course. That's why I posted it. ;-)

(lisa) Consider it an early birthday present. ;-) Awwww....How thoughtful of you to think of me in such a nice way , Lisa. *snort* You're all heart!! Can see that my party is gonna be v.'out of this world' ;-) That's the third early prezzie I've received today. TDW, Excessively Diverted and yours.... I will say yours was the most unusual;-) Those who have "Rung Down the Curtain and Joined the Choir Invisible"... LOL. I've Bookmarked it:-)))

Lisa, I'm not even going to think about where you were headed when you stumbled on that site. But I bookmarked it, too. And isn't it good to know the search index is updated weekly?!?

(Kate) And isn't it good to know the search index is updated weekly?!? LOL. Yes, how thrilling;-) (I saved it as well) Thanks, Lisa

Hugh Grant Puts Money Where Mouth Is Wed, Jul 02, 2003, 02:07 PM PT LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - Hugh Grant and an anonymous businessman have paid approximately $800,000 between them to dine with Sir Elton John, his partner, David Furnish and 10 friends. The "About a Boy" actor was at an auction during Sir Elton's annual White Tie and Tiara ball, which was held at the singer's mansion last Saturday (June 29), in England, according to the BBC. When Grant and the unnamed businessman got into a bidding war, Grant said that he would up his offer if his rival agreed to match his funds and share the dinner. He gladly acquiesced. Guests including Liz Hurley, Elle Macpherson, Kylie Minogue, Naomi Campbell, David and Victoria Beckham, Judi Dench and Sting danced the night away at the Imperial Russia-themed event. Tickets went for $2,400 and helped raise over $2.4 million for the Elton John AIDS Foundation, which celebrates its tenth anniversary this year. Grant will reprise his role as cad Daniel Clever in "Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason" and recently completed "Love Actually" to be released later this year.

And just in case you can't get enough of them or you don't trust em either, you can vouchsafe your research this way: http://www.dead-or-alive.org/dead.nsf http://www.whosaliveandwhosdead.com/ Don't ask..........

A Guardian article printed in the Sydney Morning Herald: Southfork's sons saddling up again? Please let it be a dream By Peter Bradshaw July 3 2003 Who cares who shot J.R? Twentieth Century Fox is hoping everyone still does, because it is remaking the classic cheesy '80s soap Dallas into a movie. Yessiree, the hideously rich and appallingly dysfunctional Ewing family are to live again on the big screen, and according to news reports, good ol' boy John Travolta was hoping to lasso the role of that mean critter J.R. Ewing, but Bruce Willis has roped it first. Colin Farrell is lined up to play Bobby Ewing, while Jessica Lange is practising her hard-drinking act for the role of Sue Ellen. But do we really need yet another TV-into-movie adaptation? Don't these producers have any imagination at all? The reason Hollywood likes movie versions of TV shows is that they are easy: everyone can see them in their mind's eye. The thirty and fortysomethings will turn out for nostalgia's sake, and sexy new plots will bring in the kids. So, Dallas for the 21st century. First, the music: everyone can whistle it, so you remix it and generally crank it up for the opening credits. Classic yet modern. Then there's the plot. Maybe the Ewings have an interest in rebuilding Iraq. But, poignantly, maybe one of the Ewing boys was killed in the war. Or maybe in the attacks of September 11. It almost writes itself. But not quite. The matter of J.R.'s assassin is tricky. A different culprit has to be found. A twist must be contrived. Then there is the notorious way Bobby was brought back from the dead and the whole story up to that point explained away as Pam's dream. There are far too many movies at the moment which end with the it-was-all-a-dream-or-fantasy cop-out. (There are even disturbing rumours that this is how the Wachowski brothers intend to close the Matrix trilogy, thus betraying us all.) The ironic thing is that the original TV show Dallas was inspired by a movie. Douglas Sirk's Written on the Wind (1956), starring Rock Hudson, Lauren Bacall, Robert Stack and Dorothy Malone, was all about a screwed-up Texan oil family and is thought to be the template for the Ewings. Larry Hagman is reportedly going to get the statutory tongue-in-cheek cameo in the new film, so how about one for Lauren Bacall as well, for old times' sake?

Okay...first I looked at the date to make sure I wasn't dreaming. And that it wasn't April 1st.....realized I wasn't having a nightmare, but that this seems to be really happening..... sexy new plots will bring in the kids Huh? With Bruce Willis and Jessica Lange? That'll surely bring the kids in! Oh? You mean Colin Farrell? Is he really around to stay? Gah! I was hoping he would just go away! Thanks Karen....I think.....;-)

Who cares who shot J.R? Twentieth Century Fox is hoping everyone still does, because it is remaking the classic cheesy '80s soap Dallas into a movie. I was a joking with a friend about all the movies that plan to be Broadway musicals and I said next they'll be redoing Dallas too! LOL! I never watched the series, but of course knew all the characters because my mother-in-law watched it in Italy, where it was a huge success. And didn't lots of women named their daughters Crystal?

Dead Alert!! Don't look Evelyn! Another stirring piece from IMDB WENN: Joplin Talks to Zellweger From Beyond the Grave Musical legend Janis Joplin has spoken to actress Renee Zellweger from beyond the grave - to give advice on how to play her correctly. The tragic star, who died in 1970 after a drug overdose, reportedly has such a strong connection with the svelte Bridget Jones star - who has signed to play her in an upcoming biopic - that Renee communicates with her as she sleeps to ensure Janis' story is told properly. A source close to Renee tells British tabloid The Daily Express, "She says Janis speaks to her in her dreams and tells her the way she wants her story told. "Just talking to Renee about Janis is enough to freak a person out. It's like Joplin is standing there right beside her. Renee told me that when she sings a Joplin song, its really Joplin's voice she's using, coming right out of her mouth. I've heard her sing two of Joplin's songs and it's quite a chilling experience." Boy, she really does Try(Just a Little Bit Harder), even from the *other side*!;-)

IMDB)A source close to Renee tells British tabloid The Daily Express, "She says Janis speaks to her in her dreams and tells her the way she wants her story told. Kinda like Elenore R talked to Hillary in the White House?;-)

There's a new film festival starting Aug. 13th. The Copenhagen Int'l FF. I just checked the schedule but there's no GWAPE. Spun is there so maybe Mena will be there.

Who cares who shot J.R? that about sums it up for me. Our first trip to England was the summer of "who shot JR?" and it seemed that everyone we met assumed that, since we're from the US, we'd be a year ahead on the series and would know. People were astonished that we didn't watch such a great show. (Hey, they loved Starsky and Hutch.) Bruce Willis as JR? I can just picture David Addison with a Texas twang. And isn't Jessica Lange just a bit old for Sue Ellen? Renee communicates with her as she sleeps to ensure Janis' story is told properly Huh? I'm trying to picture her on "Actors Studio" telling a yarn like this one. Evelyn? I need a ruling. Are movies ABOUT dead people OK?

(KateDF)Evelyn? I need a ruling. Are movies ABOUT dead people OK? LOL. Hmmmmm You mean Vermeer;-) IF it's Janis Joplin (RIP) , I didn't even like her in life. Furthermore, me thinks Renee is going off the deep end.

Evelyn)Furthermore, me thinks Renee is going off the deep end. That's what they said about Elinore and Hillary.......

(Evelyn)Furthermore, me thinks Renee is going off the deep end. Me thinks she's od'ing on all those donuts;-)

Thanks for all the very interesting articles, ladies. I wonder who is singing through me ;-) Have a happy and safe Fourth everyone!!!

Just read an interview with Cillian Murphy and Naomi Harris for 28 Days Later. It mentions their upcoming movies and says that NH can next be seen in the psychological thriller "Troma" also starring Colin Firth and Mena Suvari. Harris plays a dancer wife to Firth's character in yet another scary movie.. It doesn't mention GWAPE at all. Here's the link if anyone wants to read it: Zap2it.com

Book-Lover Finds Another 1st Edition Austen Novel Mon Jul 7, 7:58 AM ET LONDON (Reuters) - A book expert working in Scotland has found a rare first edition of Jane Austen's best-known book "Pride And Prejudice," his second such find in a year. John Sibbald made the find while sifting through thousands of books inherited by a London-based client. He also found copies of Austen's "Northanger Abbey," second edition copies of "Sense and Sensibility" and early William Wordsworth poems. Last year, Sibbald found a "Pride And Prejudice" first edition at a car boot sale which later sold for more than $66,000. "They say lightening doesn't strike twice but it is safe to say I have been burned to a cinder," Sibbald, a 58-year-old book specialist working for the auction house Lyon and Turnbull, told Reuters. "It was an absolute nightmare," he added of the three-day trawl of the books, several hundred of which still have to be checked. "Pride and Prejudice" is due to be auctioned on July 8 and is expected to fetch up to $20,000. The auction house is also selling an uncorrected proof copy of J.K. Rowling (news - web sites)'s first Harry Potter (news - web sites) book -- "Harry Potter and The Philosopher's Stone" -- which is expected to sell for up to $5,000.

There's something new on Spring.net and I need your help on it. We have at the top of http://www.spring.net something called Ads by google in a box. It's a google text ad program that will benefit the Spring and help pay for hosting, like the Amazon Boutique that Karen so admirably set up does. So, please click on these ads whenever you have a spare moment. And I'll be talking soon to both Karen and Ann about a Third Quarter pledge drive to help with paying our hosting fees.

Feeling just terrible that I missed all the June birthdays ;-( Happy b-lated b-day to Lizza, KJ, Moon (got to do lunch :-)!), Beedee, Pam, Minkee, Shoshana, and Leah! Hope I covered all (the) LeJune Filles! (pardon my French). There must be something about being born under the same sign and adoring YKW. Glad I made it back in time to celebrate the droolettes who celebrate in July!

Y'all are truly wonderful! So far since I posted that request to click on the ad links, Spring.net has done very well. Keep doing it! Please. Thank you.

Let me be the first ... LisaJH! ... Don't worry -- you'll never get too old for this place ... !

Lisa, Have a great day. This place can really make you feel special on your birthday! Enjoy.

I've really got to go....I can't be late for Lisa's party!!Besides....I think our time is up. LisaJH!!!Here is hoping you spend many more happy hours with ODB!

Happy Birthday Lisa! Mark and Bridget want to wish you a wonderful birthday, too... Just have a few things to finish first! ;-)

(wham bam motel, tress... thank you ma'am ! *heeheehee*) hey, wait a minute, that's not the reason why i logged in : just wanted to tell lisa that henry's been thinking about her on this very special day. check it out for yourself, he's all giddy with exitement : now what this little devil is thinking of, you'll have to figure out yourself, lisa. animatronicolin 1.7 - full dimples ahead mode you have yourself an exxxxccccellent birthday now

Lisa!! You light up the room darling!

I�m sure he�ll show up later, I know he�ll come this way. It�s sure to be much better With Colin on your birthday. Should Paul ring for some pizza? Will Mark stir up blue soup? Oh Happy Birthday Lisa, From one among this group.

So, you say it's Lisa's Birthday Time to nip over to 192 for a little celebration

Happy Birthday Lisa!!!

Lisa, Lisa.... Are you there Lisa? Hello Lisa?

Attention everyone! Today is Lisa's birthday and we are going to celebrate like there's no tomorrow. Lisa darling, I have missed you. You've been neglecting me lately. So sit back and enjoy the ride. And brace yourself for the new ending of TEOR. Hey, you knew I had to have the bigger role. What can I say? I feel betrayed once more. But at least I kept all those toys from that last encounter, swing and all. Remember this one? ;-D I just hope you include me in your next story, Lisa. Lisa can you hear me? Lisa can you hear me? Lisa? Sorry Colin but it's time to sing... Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday dear Lisa.... Happy Birthday to you!!!

Lisa, darling, could you take over? My hand is about to fall off and I need a ciggie.

You guys are the greatest! ;-D KJ, just how old do you think I am? ;-) (I�m just a teensy bit older than ODB.) Thanks for remembering me. Leah, thank you for your wishes. I agree that Drool birthdays are special. LOL, Tress, did he go to the no-tell hotel to warm himself up for me? ;-) Tell him that he�d better take me to a first class hotel, and none of this by the hour business. ;-) Mmmm, thanks, Shoshana. As you know, I have a soft spot for Bridge and Mark. Merci, Sophie, for the Collin full dimples animation. Love it! Maria, mmmm. AFG! Love that half-light shot. Reminds me of the �Meet the Beatles� album cover. Karen, funny you should mention going out, as that is just what I am going to do--I�m being whisked off to lunch to the restaurant of my choice. (Sadly, it is too hot to drink champagne or wine.). So, I will be gone for a few hours, but, I�ll be back� Thanks, Terry, for your wishes. Bedee, LOL! Yes, indeed I am.

(Lisa) I�m just a teensy bit older than ODB. Reminds me of the �Meet the Beatles� album cover. Does not compute. But we'll keep your secret. ;-D

Ohhh sorry Lisa! I got the 'boxes o' death'. It worked in practice. Karen if you need to delete, I understand! Terribly sorry everyone (but my goofs appear to be working as links if you want to look that way)! But Happy Birthday Lisa! ;-)

Got here as fast as I could... .........didn't have time to errrr.... .....anyway.... HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LISA

Time to jump for joy . . . . . . 'cause it's Lisa's birthday! Have a great day and a wonderful year, Lisa!

Lisa, I thought about wearing a towel to your party, but I thought it might not be the proper attire for a top-notch London barrister, so I changed into a little something my mum gave me... However, this doesn't seem right, either. Wrong season, wrong occasion, embarrassing reindeer jumper... So I think I'll stop worrying about my attire and get on with my reason for being here, which is to say Lisa!

Will try one more time...*holding breath* 141 lbs (have just eaten entire cake baked for Lisa's birthday, v. v. bad. Will bake another so that I can share with virtual family), alcohol units 4 (v. bad as is only 8:00 in the morning), cigarettes 0 (v. v. good, but again, only 8:00 in the morning), calories 3,892 (poor....have eaten entire chocolate cake and half of a Dairy Milk), number of illicit thoughts about Mr. Darcy 167 (v. v. good, as is always good to think of Mr. Darcy), phone calls from Mark Darcy 0 (odd, as I am sure he has my number), birthday wishes for Lisa: ohhhhhh thousands!!! (again) Lisa!!!!

Tress) got the 'boxes o' death'. It worked in practice. ROTFLWE!(rolling on the floor laughing with empathy!) *boxes o' death*....how appropriate....

Happy Birthday, Lisa! Since we share a birthdate, I thought I'd drop by and sing for you. Happy Birthday, Lisa!

from Beck. Moon's favourite LA homeboy.

Lisa, are you there? Hello, Lisa? I know you've gone to lunch, but I just wanted to wish you a very happy birthday and this picture is a lot like the one from the satellite interview when I said your name like that (remember how I was doing that thing with my lips like this?) So I'm sending you a reminder of that special time for your birthday. Happy Birthday, Lisa, Lisa, Lisa! Thanks Karen and KathyC for these great pictures. Especially that last one with great dimples and smile! Happy birthday, Lisa. Have a great day!

Lisa, Lisa.... Can you hear me? Are you there Lisa? If you can hear me Say my Name! I want to wish you a Happy Birthday. Hello Lisa?

I just know there's something going on today. Something important. What was it?   WHAT? It's Lisa's birthday? And I'm missing it whilst rowing on the lake with some stick insect?   Well, that's what I heard, at any rate, Arsy Darcy.   What did you say, Cleaver? Do I have to take you outside and beat the crap out of you again?   I'm on my way, Lisa. I wouldn't miss your party for the world, Lisa. Lisa, Lisa, can you hear me, Lisa?   I'm here, Lisa! May I come up and join the party?   Happy Birthday, Lisa!

A book deal? You want me to discuss a book deal on her birthday? She'll never consent. That scoundrel, Mark Darcy, has beaten us to it. Happy Birthday, Lisa Thanks, ladies, for all the AFG pictures in honor of Lisa's birthday...very enjoyable, indeed.

Since this is the All Important "Lisa, Lisa, can you hear me day" from our studio overlooking the fakey Westminster backdrop, I bring you: and it's time for some liquid celebration: as we're all getting a little parched.

Whew! That was Troomatic! I almost missed the Lisa's party! Happy Happy Birthday! You've put a smile back on my (beautiful) face Lisa!

Hey Lisa....this just came in... HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LISA..... From all the Stiffs at Dead People.com

I just read all the BD greetings and am in hysterics! We are having really bad thunderstorms, so I can't stay online, but will return as soon as I can. You've made this day such a fun one--thanks!

Lisa, Lisa.... Can you hear me Lisa? I found this book you left behind.... Hello Lisa? What does it mean? What are you studying? Will you have time to meet so we can celebrate your birthday? I've set a lovely table.. ?

Happy Birthday to Lisa, who stepped in when HF left us hanging with Bridget and Mark's story. Hope you have a v. v. special day!! We've never had any trouble hearing him, have we?

I want to join the party but I can't get out of this bloody boat! That and this sweater itches, can I take it off? Lisa, I hope you're having a wonderful birthday (with or without the thunderstorms!)!

Lisa, Professor Leavis is on the line and wants to wish you a very Happy Birthday!

Oh, Moon! Wot happened to TEoR script? Not Daniel! Gaaaaaaah! I thought Bridget was supposed to marry John Revolta. ;-) Mark, darling, if you have custody of the toys, I'll be right over! (I knew that story would come back to haunt me. ;-)) Just call me rebound girl! ;-) Colin, hon, with that smoulder, I'll have plenty of inspiration to write a phonebook-sized epic novel. And Bridge, I knew I could count on you to get the karaoke going. Thanks, Moon! Karen, dahlink, please tell Helen I'd be happy to pinch hit for her while she nips out for a fag. (And no, I'm not referring to Tom.;-)) (Karen) Does not compute. But we'll keep your secret. ;-D I meant With the Beatles. (I swear: no alcohol was involved!) Here's the pic of the cover with their faces half-lit: (Tress) I got the 'boxes o' death'. Oh my, I hope it's not contagious. ;-) Evelyn, love ODB's "foliage." I wonder if he plans to do a four seasons set? I'd buy it. ;-) Thanks, Mari for the bounce-a-gram and your kind wishes. Moon, I had no idea I shared Beck's birthday! Here I thought it was just me and Kevin Bacon. ;-) Lora, LOL, at the pic of Colin making a face! But that dimpled one....oh, my! Thanks, ever so much. Matthew, I'll say your name over and over again, you two-timing piece of eye candy. ;-) LOL! Thanks, Beedee. Guess I'm going to have to make tomato sauce, huh? ;-) Mark, darling, of course you may come up and join the party. I sent that Cleaver guy packing. Loved the lovely Darcy captures--thanks, Rika! Linda, you tell "Liz R" and Wessex that they're welcome to chat me up about a book deal any time they want. Would that be Tudor Press? ;-) Okay, I'm going to take a break, have a little dinner, and I'll be back. This has to be one of the most enjoyable birthdays I've had in a long time. Thank you all for the lovely ODBfest.

Lisa, when the party is over...I'm taking you to Pemberley for a mini-break. I have a book deal I want to discuss...after some cake, of course Hope you are enjoying your day, Happy Birthday, Lisa.

Wait a minute, I've got that album and it's called Meet The Beatles. (Actually, the US version was "Meet"; the UK version, which came out the previous year, was With Just a bit of trivia from your resident Beatlemaniac. Not that I'm old enough to remember.;-) Looks like the mop-top boys have stopped by to send their greetings: Happy Birthday, Lisa . . . we love you, yeah, yeah, yeah!

Since this is the All Important "Lisa, Lisa, can you hear me day" Crikey, Karen, I have my own day, now! And to think, in about 25 years he'll say "Lisa, can you hear me?" and I'll say "What?" and it will be the old folks version of the Abbott & Costello routine. ;-) Thanks for the wine, too, which I just poured down my throat. Mmmmmm, lovely. ;-) Maria, love the very un-traumatic smile. Mmmm. So glad Ben was able to drop by. He didn't bring any creepy crawlies with him, I hope. Evelyn, dear, how nice that all the stiffs remembered me. ;-) I guess I had that coming, LOL! How many more days until your birthday, hmmmmm? ;-) Hunk Daddy, er, I mean, Henry, how did you know that I've been using a very similar book of late? Well, we all have our guilty pleasures: I steal away and play with HTML code manuals and graphics software, and you dress in your biker leathers and play air guitar in front of a mirror. Ain't middle age fun? ;-) Let us put our little hobbies aside and enjoy that lovely spread. How very nice of Beedee to arrange our meeting. Thanks, Hen, for your birthday wishes. Yes, we can always here him, especially when he says our name over and over again. ;-) Ada, fair mistress of the keeps! You tell Mark that of course he can take off the sweater, as it is my one and only keepsake. Thanks for the lovely pic and wishes and let's get him off that boat with the stick insect! Er, Bridge, the F.R. Leavis? Isn't he one of the stiffs from Deadpeople.com? Or do they have phone service now? ;-) Ask Tress, or better still, Evelyn--I bet she knows. Mr Darcy, I long to go to Pemberley for a mini-break. And a book deal AND cake? Can we take a dip in the pond, too? It is awfully hot outside. Note to self: thank my agent, LindaK, for arranging this! (Mari) Wait a minute, I've got that album and it's called Meet The Beatles Okay, maybe I've got the name of the album mixed up, but didn't the US vinyl LP have the photo with the half-lit faces on it? Or have I entered the Twilight Zone? Just a bit of trivia from your resident Beatlemaniac. *sigh* I was/am a Beatlemaniac too, but I must be slipping. Not that I'm old enough to remember.;-) Of course not. ;-) So glad the lads dropped by! Thanks, Mari! Well, this has been some day! Thank you, one and all!

Ohmigod! I left out thanking Kathy and Tress for posts 461 and 462. Kathy, you tell Mark that any ole thing he wears is fine by me, though I prefer the towel to the reindeer jumper. Less is more; or so it would seem. ;-) Thanks! LOL, Tress! I love the diary entry! No 'boxes o' death" this time, I see. V.v. good!

(Lisa) but didn't the US vinyl LP have the photo with the half-lit faces on it? Vinyl??? Vinyl?? It was just an album or an LP. and I watched them on Ed Sullivan and have a tape (audio) we made (with aunt and uncle talking in the background) while it was airing. I think it was the third appearance (Miami???)

Lisa, Lisa.... Let me get rid of this kid on this swing and we can get down to business on your swing! now that the kiddies are in bed!

TV's 'Soundstage' Returns After 18 Years By ADAM JADHAV, Associated Press Writer CHICAGO - Soundstage, the PBS series that put viewers in the front row of concerts by artists ranging from Bob Dylan to the Temptations, is back on television after being muscled out 18 years ago by the music video. Those behind the series hope its raw approach � no glitz, just music � appeals to those put off by the record industry's focus on glamour. "The bet on our part: The fans are intelligent enough to appreciate the art of performance," said director Joe Thomas. The new series debuted Thursday with a performance by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Future performers in the 13-part weekly series include country star Trace Adkins, rockers Sonic Youth and pop singer Tori Amos. The hourlong shows are taped in front of a live audience at the WTTW-TV Studios in Chicago. The Public Broadcasting Service affiliate, which also produced the original series, keeps editing to a minimum. Performers are encouraged to talk with the audience, and if artists make mistakes, the cameras capture it all. That formula is similar to what propelled the original series, which ran from 1974 to 1985. It was groundbreaking when the normal way musicians reached television viewers was to lip-synch a hit or two on programs such as The Ed Sullivan Show and The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour. By contrast, Soundstage gave fans hourlong concerts from big names � Aretha Franklin, Benny Goodman and more � in an intimate studio environment. "It was a little more off-the-cuff kind of talking and playing," said 50-year-old Steven Kay, who owns the Vintage Vinyl record store in Evanston and was a fan of the original Soundstage. "It was the kind of show where you got to know an artist deeper and more personally than if they just appeared on the Smothers Brothers Show and played a few songs." It still is, only this time Soundstage is shot with high-definition cameras and digital surround sound. The producers hope the new technology helps better capture the look and feel of a live show. "There were cameras all over the place," said Lee Loughnane, member of the band Chicago, whose Soundstage performance will air July 26. "No flash pots, no dancing girls, no background singers. We just did our thing." With the first season in the can, WTTW and partner HD Ready, a suburban video company, are planning for a second. Singer-songwriter Sheryl Crow will be taping next week, Thomas said. Randy King, WTTW executive television producer, said the station is working to schedule groups such as Coldplay, A Tribe Called Quest and Radiohead. Not everyone believes such a performance series can last. Audiences used to slick music videos might think concerts fall flat on TV, VH1 executive Bill Flanagan said. "The single thing that makes a concert most compelling is that you're in the room with the artist," Flanagan said. "When you put that on TV you've almost lost that." But singer Michael McDonald, who performed on the old series as frontman for the Doobie Brothers and appears as a solo act on a new show, sees a place for Soundstage. "So much of what we see today kind of harkens to stage productions of 'Guys and Dolls,'" McDonald said. "(Videos) have got all the dancers and all the stuff going on that kinda creates an ambiance that sort of distracts from the music. "With Soundstage, you get that kind of view into what is the core of the musical performing act."

Thanks Karen, TV's 'Soundstage' Returns After 18 Years The new series debuted Thursday with a performance by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers I saw and enjoyed some of this last weekend. It was followed by a great Austin City Limits concert with Bonnie Raitt. But singer Michael McDonald, who performed on the old series as frontman for the Doobie Brothers and appears as a solo act on a new show, sees a place for Soundstage. Me too, me too! Been missing my favorite Doobie.

(Karen) Vinyl??? Vinyl?? It was just an album or an LP. As the cat in the Tidy Cat commercial used to say, "Whatever!" ;-) I just threw in the vinyl part as a description, as cds are also now referred to as albums. Another confusing issue regarding the Beatles albums is that when they were re-released as cds, we ended up with the British version of the song lists. I much prefer the older, US version of Rubber Soul (my favorite) that was on the LP. I'm a picky Beatlemaniac. ;-) Oh, Beedee, a kinky Hunk Daddy! Sonia, someone was kind enough to point out to me that I overlookd thanking you for your poem yesterday. Please accept my apologies and know that I really enjoyed it and appreciated the effort. If I left anyone else out, please accept my apologies.

You're welcome Lisa. Thanks to the kind soul and to everyone else for that matter. It was your birthday but I too enjoyed your gifts. (Lisa) Oh, Beedee, a kinky Hunk Daddy! First leather then swings, the man is full of surprises.

What a great party Lisa. So many guests plus the Beatles. They even knew this was the birthday of a very special person indeed. Happy Birthday Lisa. Great job ladies. Really genius.

(Lisa)Evelyn, dear, how nice that all the stiffs remembered me. ;-) I guess I had that coming, LOL! How many more days until your birthday, hmmmmm? ;-) Uh,oh...I better get the armor suit ready;-)

Alas! Alack! This is totally OT, but my DVD died, and it ate P&P disk 1! Please, will you send get well wishes to the player? Maybe the combined will of many Droolers will help.

Oooooo, channeling zuba zubas your way! A truely terrible situation...

Well, thank you for your positive thoughts... the DVD player is very dead but P&P has been extracted with only mild (and hopefully not deep) scratches from being rammed into the machinery. Of course, now have no DVD player on which to check out said disc and thus I am going through Darcy withdrawl cravings. :-( Will just have to go watch something on VHS, I suppose. Anyway, thanks for the nice messages and I'll stop taking up valuable space now.

London theatre news: Othello will play at Stratford in an RSC production Feb-April. "The leading South African actor Sello Maake ka Ncube will play the title role of Othello. He is currently appearing as Mufasa in the long running and highly successful musical The Lion King in the West End. This production of Othello celebrates the play's 400th anniversary by casting the first black African actor ever to play the title role in a major production in this country." He'd be a terrific "George" in TDW if they hurry and shoot in January.

Interesting article in BBC News about Gurinder Chadha's Bollywood version of P&P, "Bride and Prejudice," about to start filming: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/3057959.stm I'm puzzled by this: "His unsavoury friend Mr Bingley is still an Englishman - in this case a barrister - and according to Gillies, who plays him, his character will be 'more despicable'."

I enjoy those recent Bollywood movies, but the P&P one might be hard to take. I rented "I'm With Lucy" and most highly recommend it! A very intelligent script, maybe that's why it did not get released in the theatres. It is one of the best rom com I've seen since "Harry Met Sally". Has anyone else seen it? Run to your video store and rent this one. You will be surprised on the cast too, known actors you will recognize.

"I'm With Lucy" is on my Netflix list. I'll move it up and let you how I liked it. I don't rent many rom coms, but I'll try anything Harold Ramis is in. It may have been mentioned before, but "Lost in La Mancha" is definitely worth a look see.

(Moon)rented "I'm With Lucy" and most highly recommend it! A very intelligent script,..... Thanks Moon, I'm always looking for those undervalued treasures. So much c**p out there these days. OT but my heart leaped a little yesterday at the library, yes the library, while I was looking through the DVD section for weekend fare I saw they had LE! Almost took it instictively then slapped self as have it at home;-)

(Beedee) I saw they had LE! Almost took it instictively then slapped self as have it at home;-) LOL!

From Show Biz Data: Ouch reviews! (What a bad summer so far for the so-called big films:) On ABC's Good Morning America critic Joel Siegel led off his review of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen by remarking on the extraordinary acting talent of one of its stars, Sean Connery. "I'd pay to watch him read the morning paper and drink a cup of coffee," Siegel commented, then added: "I'd rather do [that] than watch The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen," which Siegel described as "every action movie this summer lumped together in one big ... lump." His colleagues in the print media mostly agree. Roger Ebert in the Chicago Sun-Times calls the lump a mixture of "incomprehensible action, idiotic dialogue, inexplicable motivations, causes without effects, effects without causes, and general lunacy. What a mess." Geoff Pevere in the Toronto Star advises: "Transpose just about any of the reasonable complaints one might have about 90 per cent of the big budget studio releases currently, recently or imminently in release (i.e., that they're underwritten, overblown, forgettable, illogical, irrelevant, int llectually-challenged and yet eager to reproduce) and you've pretty much captured the essence of this joyless, lurching behemoth." Megan Lehmann in the New York Post counters the highfalutin title with a highfalutin description: "unfathomable balderdash." Carrie Rickey in the Philadelphia Inquirer describes it as "the unwatchable in pursuit of the inexplicable." Stephen Hunter in the Washington Post even has rancorous words about Connery. "He confines most of his acting to his left eyebrow and his right fist; they're his only body parts that seem engaged. In all other respects, his performance must be modeled on Darrell Hammond's brilliant impersonations of him on Saturday Night Live as arrogant and stupid but also stubborn and boring," Hunter writes. And Manohla Dargis in the Los Angeles Times expresses her exasperation with the recent glut of blockbuster action films by kicking off her review this way: "It's axiomatic among film critics that the movies have gone to the dogs, or more precisely to teenage b ys. Given the current crop of cheerlessly noisy entertainments, such bitterness is understandable, but then again it's summer. Summer is the critics' season of discontent, the time when movies seem coarser, louder and held hostage by stories simple enough to wrap around a slab of Bazooka bubble gum." In fact, the film has a few admirers. Eleanor Ringel Gillespie in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution describes it as "a lightning-paced period adventure, dotted with some off-hand literary references to coax a smile out of book-loving moviegoers." **************************** Manohla Dargis (see in the review above), BTW, has written a very good new book on the film LA Confidential - Lots of insights on the Hollywood of the 50s, Ellroy, Curtis Hansen, and key scenes form the film. I recommend it. Karen, thanks for the Soundstage news. R Crowe and his band will be on on August 14 - with Kris Kristofferson.

Sorry I have to jump the gun a bit but . . . EVELYN!, knowing how fond you are of the dearly departed, I thought your birthday tomorrow could bring new meaning to the term The Dead Wait. "Well, doggies! For your birthday, Evelyn, we're clearin' off the fancy eatin' table and fixin' some birthday vittles! I see dead people. Don't worry, kid, it's just Evelyn's birthday party guests.

Grrr . . .

More guests from Philly have arrived . . . K: Evelyn, dahling, for your birthday, live carefree as a madcap heiress . . . hope you don't mind that I brought these two galoots along . . . They do meet the dead requirement.

A day early too...because I can't stop by tomorrow: Evelyn: You may not like to look at us anymore, but we sure enjoy watching you. The "starry" eyes of heaven are upon you... Happy Birthday!

We're going to have to start checking pulses at the door. These two claim their dead, but they can't seem to show any proof . . . Evelyn, the last stop on my around-the-world flight will be your party." They better let me in, I brought a present! Hope you like shoes, Evelyn. You're not allergic to cement, are ya kid?"

Murph & Mari...thanks for stopping by... Pulses Inc.! LOL. Murph, I knew all these guys in their prime. Except maybe Amelia. Kate just about made the 'dead end cut'. "Sorry ole girl...couldn't you hang in a few more days" I like Jimmy's thought, Mari...don't think I'll take him up on it though. ROTF girls...it's nice to be remembered by one and all..."dead or alive";-)

In the spirit of things, I'm going to jump the gun with this.... Evelyn, in honor of your birthday you are hereby inducted into the Carpe Stiffem, Ev!

Damn! Now, my kickoff image won't packed much punch. Grrrr!

Yeah, don't you hate it when that happens?

HALLO Efyeelin....... HAPPY BIRSSSDAY from zee Undead..... I knowz how much you preferz zee Undead....hee hee You vil un-da-ztant zat I hatt to zent zissss now bekawz zee night time iz zee right time for uzzz to parrrtie! Att our aech zee harsh lightz iz not zo gut! You ztill luk gut to me baby baby..I vant to .......Oh, scuz me, off topik!

LOL! Oh, zhat iz gut ;-))))))

Here's someone running to get to your party, Evelyn... Before After

Everyone over here is hoping you have a And here's a prezzie ...

(Karen)Here's someone running to get to your party, Evelyn... (KJ)Everyone over here is hoping you have a LOL! And so was that! Hey! we're early to Ev's party! Say Good Nght Gracie...Good Night George........

Well, for me (Armand) it will not be a good night. I'll just stay here, by the window waiting for the morning to come, so I can go to my one (and only?) fan Evelyn. She deserves my full attention on her birthday. Evelyn, thank you for allways defending me. It has not gone bye unnoticed. Have a wonderful birthday. I'm afraid I won't have you all to myself (am expecting a big show of "blue suits" ;-)) And off course you shall have a flower for the occasion:

Dead actors all be gone She won�t watch you today. Your life mustn�t be done It won�t freak her this way. For her, drama and drool. Wait, Trauma�s on its way. �Til then there�s Evelyn�s fuel, A Lindemann Chardonnay. Consume with moderation The label it will say. Such sweet anticipation. Much joy and happy birthday!

Happy Birthday to you! Happy Birthday to you! Happy Birthday to Evelyn!!! Happy Birthday to you!

cool skeleton animation karen, but this is evelyn's birthday f'r chris'sake : i thought we'd get to see a little more flesh (and blue suits) than that ! plus, you know, dead people don't smell too good but look, coming to the rescue to liven up the mood, there's dashing dashwood, aka hunk daddy. he is answering the press right now, but he is definitely on his way to evelyn's party : animatronicolin 2.0, a blue suit for evelyn (... and something else as well ?) happy birthday evelyn ! *** warning! this file is huge (300ko) and i had to open a new site for it (hence version 2.0)***

Happy Birthday Evelyn Have a wonderful day And to my Number One fan, my best wishes for a very Happy Birthday

I see dead people No kidding? So do I A toast to Evelyn...Forget about the dead and undead. Here's wishing you a truly out of this world experience. Happy Birthday

Enough with all these dead people! I agree with you, Annette, it's time for some blue suits� Its Evelyn's birthday, and she's young at heart, So it's time to give her a celebration of a different start! Oh, The Places You'll Go Just to see me on the screen, You'd get on a plane and Fly to Dallas like a teen. Or travel by train or in a car, For that - Happy birthday, I love you just as you are! Yet, I hear you like me in a suit of blue, But, do you like me in this suit, too? (The Cad in the Hat) Or how about with an earring through? (There's a Cod on my Bod or There's a Wocket in My Pocket) You do not like me when I'm "SLOW," But with tennis shoes and tomatoes I don't look so bad, you know. (Fox in Socks) You may not like me in 'Hope Springs,' But maybe you'll like me in scary things? Sometimes you may think I'm just a hobby, But remember you're the first one I gazed at in the Donmar lobby! (pay no attention to KST, Evelyn is sitting next to her and that's who he's looking at!) Have a very happy birthday, Evelyn. Hope you have a fun, wonderful day!

No birthday would be complete without a little entertainment, so I've invited some great hoofers to put on a show: What? You don't recognize them? How soon they forget.

LOL at all the thespian skeletons coming out of the closet! Here's your horror-scope, Evelyn: ;-) IF JULY 13 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You're resourceful, sometimes surprising even yourself; you can be a fish out of water, different in every way. The full moon today means you are about to harvest the results of your good deeds. Lady Luck is smiling on your endeavors. If you haven't found a mate so far, this should be the year. There's success having to do with art, drama or music. December brings work, money and travel. ********************************* Birthdates which occurred on July 13: 1396 Philip the Good Duke of Burgundy 1527 John Dee London, alchemist/astrologer/mathematician 1793 John Clare Northamptonshire peasant poet (Shepard's Calendar) 1821 Nathan Bedford Forrest Tennessee, brilliant cavalry leader, Lt Gen 1863 Emma Mary Wooley educator (Mary Anna Wells) 1894 Isaak Babel Russian short-story writer/dramatist (Red Calvary) 19-- Danitra Vance comedienne (SNL) 19-- Lois Kibbee actress (Edge of Night) 1901 Mickey "Toy Bulldog" Walker welterweight boxing champ (1922-26) 1906 Harry Sosnik Chicago, orch leader (Jack Carter Show, Your Hit Parade) 1913 Carolina Gisolf Holland, high jumper (Olympic-silver-1928) 1913 Dave Garroway Schnectady NY, TV host (Today Show) 1923 Susie Bond Louisville Ky, actress (Flo, Temperature Rising) 1926 Meyer Kupferman NYC, composer (In Fimi Tres) 1928 Bob Crane Waterbury Ct, actor (Hogan's Heroes) 1931 Bill Moor Toledo Oh, actor (Hanky Panky) 1934 Alexei S Yeliseyev cosmonaut (Soyuz 5, 8, 10) 1934 Wole Soyinka Nigeria, dramatist (Road, Kongi's Harvest) 1935 Jack Kemp (Rep-R-NY)/right-wing/US Secretary of Housing (1989- ) 1940 Patrick Stewart actor (Capt Picard-Star Trek Next Generation) 1940 Paul Prudhomme cajun chef 1941 Robert Forster Rochester NY, actor (Lady in Red, Alligator) 1942 Harrison Ford actor (Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Frantic) 1942 Roger McGuinn rocker (Byrds-Turn Turn Turn, Mr Tambourine Man) 1944 Erno Rubik Budapest, inventor (Rubik's cube) 1946 Richard "Cheech" Marin comedian (Cheech & Chong-Up in Smoke) 1948 Alf Hansen Norway, double sculls (Olympic-gold-1976) 1948 Daphne Maxwell Reid actress (Frank's Place) 1948 Don Sweet Vancouver, CFL, NFL place kicker (Montr�al, Green Bay) 1950 George D "Pinky" Nelson Iowa, PhD/astro (STS 41C, STS 61-C, STS-26) 1951 Didi Conn Bkln NY, actress (Denise-Benson, Helen-The Practice) 1954 David Thompson NBA guard (Phoenix Suns, Seattle Supersonics) 1954 Louise Mandrell Corpus Christi Tx, country singer (Mandrell Sisters) 1956 Mark "Animal" Mendoza rocker (Twisted Sister-We're Not Gonna Take It) 1963 Bobby Rock Houston Tx, rock drummer (Nelson-Love & Affection) 1963 Spud Webb NBA guard (Atlanta Hawks) 1966 Myong Hui Choe North Korea, gymnist (Olympic-1980) 1970 Steven J Brown Hackensack NJ, guitarist (Trixter-Give It To Me Good) And just for you, Evelyn dear, as I normally exclude them: Deaths which occurred on July 13: 1762 James Bradley 3rd Astronomer Royal, dies 1793 Jean Paul Marat French revolutionary, murdered by Charlotte Corday 1890 John C Fremont declared Republic of California, dies at 76 1955 Ruth Ellis hung 1961 Arnold Schoenberg Austrian-US composer (Second Quartet), dies at 86 1973 Lon Chaney Jr actor (Hawkeye, Pistols 'n' Petticoats), dies at 67 1982 John Alexander actor, dies at 85 On this day... 432 -BC- Origin of Metonic Cycle 574 John III ends his reign as Catholic Pope 1568 Dean of St Paul's Cathedral perfects a way to bottle beer 1787 Congress establishes Northwest Territory (excludes slavery) 1787 Ord of 1787-a territory can become 3 to 5 states at 60,000 pop 1793 French rev writer Jean Paul Marat murdered by Charlotte Corday 1832 Source of Mississippi River discovered (Henry R Schoolcraft) 1836 US patent #1 (after 9,957 unnumbered patents), for locomotive wheels 1854 US forces shell & burn San Juan del Norte, Nicaragua 1863 Anti-draft mobs lynch blacks in NYC; about 1,000 die 1865 Horace Greeley advises his readers to "Go west young man" 1865 PT Barnum's museum burns down 1868 Oscar J Dunn, former slave, installed as lt governor of Louisiana 1878 Treaty of Berlin amended terms of Treaty of San Stefano 1882 200 die as train derails near Tcherny, Russia 1896 Ed Delahanty, becomes 2nd major leaguer to hit 4 HRs in a game 1898 Guglielmo Marconi patents the radio 1898 SF Ferry Building at foot of Market St opens 1900 Phillies beat Pittsburgh 23-8 1908 4th modern Olympic games opens in London 1917 Vision of Virgin Mary appeared to children of F tima, Portugal 1919 Race riots in Longview & Gregg counties Texas 1930 Sarnoff reports in NY Times "TV would be a theater in every home" 1934 Babe Ruth hits HR #700 against Detroit 1936 112� F (44� C), Mio, Michigan (state record) 1936 114� F (46� C), Wisconsin Dells, Wisc. (state record) 1943 1st All Star night game (AL beats NL 5-4 at Shribe Pk, Phila) 1948 AL beats NL 5-2 in 15th All Star Game (Sportsman Park, St Louis) 1953 J A Bruwer discovers asteroids #1658 Innes & #3284 1954 AL beats NL 11-9 in 21st All Star Game (Cleveland Stadium) 1954 Dean Stone gets credit for AL win, although he didn't retire a batter, he threw out Shoendienst trying to steal home, AL-11 NL-9 1960 AL beats NL 6-0 in 29th All Star Game (NY Yankees host) 1960 Democratic Natl convention nominates Sen John F Kennedy for president 1960 KDBQ-AM in San Francisco CA changes call letters to KYA 1961 NL beats AL 5-4 (10 innings) in 30th All Star Game (SF Candlestick) 1963 Early Wynn, wins his 300th & last game at 43 1965 NL beats AL 6-5 in 36th All Star Game (Metropolitan Stadium, Minneapolis) 1967 Race riots break out in Newark, 27 die 1969 Russia launches unmanned Luna 15 to Moon 1971 AL beats NL 6-4 in 42nd All Star Game (Tiger Stadium, Detroit) 1972 C Torres discovers asteroid #3050 Carrera 1972 LA Rams (Irsay) & Baltimore Colts (Rosenbloom) swap owners 1972 T Smirnova discovers asteroid #2112 Ulyanov 1973 Bobby Murcer's 3 homers accounted for all RBIs, beating KC 5-0 1975 8.5" (21.6 cm) of rainfall, Dover, Delaware (state record) 1976 Courtmartial begins in USSR for Valeri Sablin (Hunt for Red Oct) 1976 NL beats AL 7-1 in 47th All Star Game (Veteran's Stadium Phila) 1977 NYC experiences 25 hr black-out 1978 Alexander Ginzburg sentenced by Soviet court to 8 years 1978 BBC bans Sex Pistols "No One is Innocent" 1978 Lee Iacocca fired as Ford Motor Pres by chairman Henry Ford II 1978 Walter Poenisch completes swim of 207 km from Cuba to Florida 1979 George Harrison releases "faster" 1982 NL scores 4-1 victory over AL for 11th straight All-Star triumph 1984 Sergei Bubka of USSR pole vaults a record 5.89 m 1985 Live Aid, a rock concert in London, Phila, Moscow & Sydney 1985 Yankees retire Roger Maris (#9) & Elston Howard (#32) uniforms 1987 Federal judge throws out Bette Midler's $10 million suit against Ford Motor Co, who used a sound alike voice for their TV commercials 1991 Bob Milacki & 3 other Balt Oriole pitchers no-hit the A's 2-0

I know how much you just want to rub my head

Sorry, I'm late....hate Sunday b'days. Too many interruptions and an interminable preacher!! Thank to all the Sooners who remembered me yesterday.. Mari, nice of you to get Jimmy Hoffa's cement shoes for me...I was hoping for a pair of Manolo's like Carrie's..but what the hey;-) Lisa Nice of you to enroll me in the Dead Actor's Society...I only hope it's honorary and not an imminent active membership. Bee Dee What a good looking Frankenstein look-a-like! Can't immitate the accent:! You ztill luk gut to me baby baby.. But I take compliments from anybody nowdays;-) Boss ...Nice of you to invite Gary's "old 'n new"...actually what I was hoping was that you'd give me "Amnesty" on my birthday... so I could post at will without getting the dreaded "Deleted" *Double winkie* KJ ..with the fancy fonts...Thanks to you and Gregory (he shoulda hung on a little longer too!)for the chocs. . Annette Armand ["left"] and bringing me a camelia, I look at it this way: at least I don't have to share him with anybody. Sonia Lovely poem...you got the right Chardonnay too :-)Yum Dead actors all be gone She won?t watch you today. Nope...Darcy, all the way:-) Josie Nice to stand out on my birthday...even with rabbit ears;-) Thanks for the greeting. Sophie Thanks for bringing Lord Dashwood all dressed up.(And I get a whole webiste too ,girls!) Linda Give me a man in a tux...(forget the Icy Queen beside him!) Lora This is the day!! "The Cad in the Hat",too funny. Poor Matthew in the tennies. More on him later. You got 'em all ...in verse, already. Aishling MIA images!!Couldn't you bring these guys back from the dead...Nice greeting. Lisa, Yes nice to see Harrison Ford up there...gaaagh he's getting old;-))) Karen I knew Ari would come...I know how hard it was for you to ask him, Karen. But this is his swan-song...last day tomorrow. Nice of him to share his last day with me. He's my hero...:-))) What a day! I will quit, for now...You all know how I hate long posts!!

I'm so confused right now....I remember that it's Evelyn's birthday and that she wanted me in a blue suit....this is three pieces and it's blue....do you think this is what she had in mind??! Ohhh....look! I think I see my dead wife....gotta dash. Will be back in a bit with cake! Evelyn!!!

Happy Birthday, Evelyn!

Frankly, my dear, I did give a damn and baked Evelyn a birthday cake

GREETINGS FROM ACROSS THE POND SPECIAL BIRTHDAY WISHES FOR THE MIMOSA QUEEN OF DROOL WISHING YOU A WONDERFUL DAY EVELYN Enjoy! PS Rafe wanted to make it too and I've heard Jeremy will be along later. Guess these guys know a true fan when they see one!

Happy Birthday Evelyn!

Got you something that you've always wanted for your birthday: Colin on Broadway... I know you like musicals, so he's headed for a revival of Chorus Line!! One, singular sensation...

Miss Evelyn, enough of these dead people. I am the only one who understands what you mean. I hope you like my present Here's a toast to you Evelyn, may you have a very Happy Birthday!

Evelyn, I'm the one who will be going to Broadway soon. Don't wait around for that other one, it won't happen. Cheers! Have a wonderful Birthday!

Evelyn, don't let them give you any grief on the dead -- not dead thing. Everybody knows, you wait long enough, they'll be back. In the meantime, have a Happy Birthday! Party like it's 1349! --Oh wait, that wasn't the best time....nevermind! And nevermind Goldie either, she thought she saw someone she used to know, but he's not back yet!

Evelyn, I couldn't miss you party! I do hope to see you in London by the 30th. I'm afraid I'm off to do a Neil LaBute film with Sandra Bullock soon and won't be on Broadway for a while. Wish me luck working with both Neil and Sandra. I wish you a very merry and happy Birthday!

Hey Tress...."Ben, honey, I said navy blue suit...not dirty blue" But the thought is there:-))) KarenHow lovely of Rhett (with the bad breath!)& Scarlett to bake me a cake. Southern hospitality reigns! And "Colin on Broadway". LOL. How well you remember. [For all newbies: In 2000 , when Jennifer and Stephen Dillane won a Tony for TRT, "Colin on B'way" was my mantra for the rest of the summer!! Now aren't you glad you weren't here?] Cause now that he sings and dances....1-800-Stephen Sondheim Shoshanna Mark Darcy with the brown eyes [Marcia:"like two pools of melted chocolate"]...can come to my blue soup birthday part any time. Moon, You and my Mr Darcy know 'class'. I finally go my 'Manolos':-) and some bubbly. (California, I hope;-) Jeremy and Rafe...Hey, I say bring on the live ones. Grazie Principessa! BarbaraLOL. I bet Shirley goes in for all that "back from the dead stuff". Goldie is saying: "Don't send them to evelyn...she'll only say, 'Good Riddance'";-)

(Evelyn), and some bubbly. (California, I hope;-) Nevah!!! Dom Perignon, only the very best for you my friend. Hope you are having a great one Evelyn!

Lizza[whom I just spoke to....] Thank you for your greetings from 'Ole Blighty'. Mimosas rock! Laura...a voice from the past. Nice to hear from you.

Evelyn,Happy Birthday! I am sorry I'm late with this but I've been searching for the perfect keep to celebrate your bithday. I wanted to go with this one first... but it that just didn't seem special enough...so then I went looking for something more... but then I saw that everyone was celebrating "death day" and that's when I knew what keep I had to use for your birthday! I hope you're having a great day, Evelyn! (lordy, I hope this works!)

Hey ole buddy, only an hour of your birthday left here, wonder how many glasses of your favourite wine (even from Oregon ;-)) we can get thro'? As Peter would say Here's looking at you kid! Cheers Evelyn! Glad Rafe could join the birthday fun. Hopefully Jerry won't be long (hint hint!)

Did she say blue soup or blue suit??? Regardless.....We like you Evelyn....just as you are! Have a very Happy Birthday!And now some cake....from the boys in blue....

Oh, so you say it's Evelyn's birthday? So sorry to be late. I was a bit tied up with Bianca. But, I don't think she'd want me to wish her a happy birthday considering my condition. Evelyn, is it okay if I wish you a happy birthday since I'm only playing uh...uh...you know...that kind of person?

See, I can wear a blue suit as well as the rest of them. Hope you're having a great day!

It took a lot of effort to get PBS to release this footage. Apparently, Colin's appearance on Charlie Rose got preempted by something or other, but since I know how much you've wanted to see it, I moved heaven and earth to make sure you got to see it for your birthday. Charlie: We're spending the evening with Colin Firth, the remarkable British actor who moves seamlessly from theater to television to films in many acclaimed productions of the classics and Academy Award-winning Best Films of the Year. He's received several nominations for England's most prestigious acting award as well as an Emmy. You know him from Shakespeare in Love, The English Patient,  and Pride and Prejudice, in which he has established himself as the quintessential Mr Darcy, first in the BBC's Pride and Prejudice and then in the mainstream arena of Bridget Jones's Diary. The man, often proclaimed for his chameleon-like abilities and neutral face, now appears in the major motion picture Hope Springs with Heather Graham and Minnie Driver. Charlie: Being Charles Webb's first novel in 30 years after The Graduate, Hope Springs is on everybody's mind. Mike Nichols told me he was anxious to get the rights, but somehow it slipped through his fingers. How did it happen for you? Colin: It just came recommended. I was having dinner with a friend who gave me a nod in that direction, saying this has got your name on it... Charlie: In what way? Colin: The main character is named Colin. Charlie: (nods knowingly) Yes, of course, and then what? Colin: And a couple of days later I got the same message from another friend about the book so I went to find it and, by another coincidence, the guy who had the rights happened to be the producer I was employed by at the time. Charlie: And that was for? Colin: The Importance of Being Earnest. So, I was in a very good position to lobby for the job more than anyone else. Although Barnaby, the producer, kept me dangling with the idea that there was a very long list of names for the part of which I was 125th. Charlie: And how long did it take for Mark Herman to confirm you as his choice? Colin: I remember it being pretty quick like day or two. Charlie: Did you do anything special to get the part? Colin: Yes, I knew I had to be in top physical shape to play the part of Colin Ware... Charlie: Why was that? Colin: Because the character would have to dance around clad only in a towel. Charlie: Was that in the novel or in the script? Colin: Mark didn't have a script until late in the process, but I felt it would be nice addition. Charlie: The dancing or the towel? Colin: The dancing. Charlie: Because... Colin: Frequently, I have been stereotyped for playing brooding or repressed, uptight Englishmen. Charlie: Yes, that would appear to be your forte for at least half of your film career. Is there any downside to it? Colin: The dearth of parts requiring a brooding or repressed and uptight Englishman. Americans make no distinction between English actors; they can't tell the difference between Michael Caine and Prince Charles. We're all Prince Charles to them. Charlie: What makes Colin Ware different from your run-of-the mill repressed Englishman? Colin: In this case, there's an autobiographical element to it, with the jetlagged Englishman cast adrift in America. I felt close to that character, having spent a confused year in America when I was young. Charlie: Here's a clip from that pivotal part of the film... Charlie: From what did you draw to prepare specifically for that scene? Colin: With a lifetime of lessons, I would never aspire to that level of choreography, so I studied with the Royal Ballet for several weeks to establish my technique and then had personal coaching at the Folies Bergere. Charlie: Any trepidation about that aspect of it, or does that make it more challenging and fun? Colin: One always runs the risk of making a fool of one's self, but I feel that we were able to pull it off tastefully and with the proper level of physical humour. It was a fun exercise, transforming myself. Charlie: How do you describe the relationship between Colin Ware and Mandy? Colin: There's a simplicity in their attraction. She gives him very simple, yet highly effective, therapy for the psychological damage inflicted by a person he had known all his life. Charlie: Do you feel the film treats relationships truthfully? Colin: There's truth in everything we do. We did not attempt to merely put a plaster over a gaping wound or an exposed nerve ending. If you look closely, you will see the nuances, which I've found is the best way to convey emotional paradoxes. Charlie: Everyone seems to think you're going to be one of the huge actors of this time or even a matinee idol. Is there a risk in all of that for you? Colin: (laughs) I don't know where people get these things, though we check the gossip pages daily. I may have been flavour of the month, but never a number one star. Since I've never been out of work, I put it down to good fortune. Charlie: Then it has been our good fortune to sit down with you today. Thank you, Colin. Colin: No, it has been my pleasure and a privilege.

Colin: In this case, there's an autobiographical element to it, with the jetlagged Englishman cast adrift in America. I felt close to that character, having spent a confused year in America when I was young. ROTFLOL, Karen! Poor dear.

Ada My keepsakes!! How clever...The tie from BJD and [in keeping with the theme of my party!!] the funereal hat with the cremains vessel. What a way to celebrate! Tress The Boys in Blue...*sigh* Off to dreamland...You really know how to end a perfect day. ROTF Karen Capital. But you forgot to add..."The critically acclaimed "Shakespearean actor". [My dream to see him on CR]. We have a slight hope for Vermeer. Thank you all for a smashy party. You all made it a perfect day ...along with several Chardonnays, Lizza ,I had some Chinese carry-out for supper . Good friends, good food, & ODB..what more can a girl want.

Arrgh....So sorry, Evelyn, I just noticed that my first pic didn't come thru. Hopefully this time will do it:-)!

Evelyn, one of the first things I learned about you as a newbie on Drool was that we shared a certain level of admiration for a rather earnest, naive young gentleman. I'm sorry to be so late to the party, but I was off in the wilderness of Canada finding him so he could join us. Unfortunately, when I first arrived he was somewhat... occupied but later I was able to find him at the grocery store, and he was happy to accompany me here. Happy birthday, Evelyn, from Joe and Rika!

Sammy, I just don�t understand why Evelyn doesn�t like me (or my story). What does that Armand fellow have that I don�t? I mean, I look AFG�..what more could she want? The *whole* blue suit?! The shirt isn�t enough?! Maybe just a blue towel, perhaps? It is pretty warm here in Southern France this time of year. Ah well.... Well, my ("newbie" ;-)) greetings are better late than never I suppose�so hope you had a HAPPY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! If I say I like Armand and *cough cough* Camille now, do I get to graduate immediately to "vet" status? ;- D My present to you is a gift certificate from Broadway.com... good for any Broadway theater in the event there might be a hope in hell he�ll be doing a play here. I made sure there was **no** expiration date. ;-)

Happy Birthday, Evelyn! We would have been here Sooner ;-) but they made us use a slow mode of transportation, and we had to stop off for a cake.

Sorry! Stupid cake must have fallen off the back of the surrey! You've probably had enough cake already, anyway.

(Evelyn) But you forgot to add..."The critically acclaimed "Shakespearean actor". Didn't forget it, but intro was getting too long. Sorry, not my best effort. Charlie's interview may resurface at some future date...maybe for YKW's own birthday.

Evelyn, rather late than dead, but I see that you've had a great day. Enjoy.

We did not attempt to merely put a plaster over a gaping wound or an exposed nerve ending. ...LOL, I never heard HG's breasts described in that manner;-)

Happy Belated Birthday Evelyn! Neil raced back from Amsterdam to send his best wishes And Armand certainly seemed excited to be a part when I told him... Hope your day was great!

(Karen)Sorry, not my best effort. Charlie's interview may resurface at some future date...maybe for YKW's own birthday. ROTF! I thought it was a p*s*er! I could hear it, see it:-)

PBS' 'Masterpiece Theatre' Seeks Sponsor Sat Jul 12,10:43 PM ET By LYNN ELBER, AP Television Writer LOS ANGELES - PBS is struggling to find funding for its venerable "Masterpiece Theatre" but will keep the curtain up as it woos corporate sponsors, PBS executives said Saturday. ExxonMobil Corp. had provided sole funding for the program since its 1971 debut until deciding to drop its support. The series is funded by ExxonMobil through 2004. Jacoba Atlas, PBS senior vice president, told the Television Critics Association that PBS is "actively seeking funding for 'Masterpiece Theatre,'" but has no specific deadline. "We're confident we're going to find that funding," PBS senior vice president John F. Wilson told the critics' association � optimism he and other PBS executives expressed in January to the same group. "Masterpiece Theatre" executive producer Rebecca Eaton told The Associated Press that PBS is making some money available to allow for the acquisition of future programming. She declined to specify the amount. "It's the economy, stupid," she said. "It's a really hard time to find it." The series needs $7 million a year to "keep it on the air as you know it," she said. That is the amount needed to buy programs and does not include marketing costs. ExxonMobil had provided about $7 million to $8 million annually, Eaton said. Eaton said she is not worried yet. "I have a bank account" from PBS to keep programming in the pipeline, she said. The task of gaining a new corporate sponsor is being conducted by PBS and WGBH Boston, which presents the series. Most public TV stations get only 17 percent to 19 percent of their total guaranteed income from government, and all means of fund-raising are under stress, said PBS president and chief executive officer Pat Mitchell. "It's tough times," she said. While the PBS operation has been forced to make significant cutbacks in its staff and operating budget, it has tried to leave programming untouched, she said. "We're not there and I'm determined we're not going to get there," Mitchell said. But public broadcasting must find "a more sustainable revenue model" than the 30-year-old one in use, she said. Half of the revenue for most public broadcasting stations comes from money pledged by viewers, she said. Other funds are provided by Congress and corporate sponsors.

Hadn't noticed this one last week, from the NY Post: BEN WANTS 'OUT' July 9, 2003 -- HOLLYWOOD is calling on "Take Me Out," Richard Greenberg's Tony Award-winning Broadway play about a gay baseball player who comes out of the closet. Ben Affleck is first among several Hollywood heavyweights who are said to be pursuing the movie rights. Affleck, a big fan of the play, would like to star in and produce the movie, which Greenberg would write. "I'm too close to the play to let anybody else adapt it," Greenberg said yesterday. "I want to screw it up myself, at least at the beginning." Affleck would not, of course, play any of the gay characters. Hollywood heartthrobs don't take such risks with their careers. He'd play Kippy, the gay baseball player's best (but straight!) friend, who acts as the narrator. The role might have to be beefed up for Affleck, though Greenberg said he considers Kippy one of the play's major characters (the others are the gay superstar, his nerdy gay accountant and the team's homophobic pitcher). "There are four characters at the center of the play," he said. "I always considered Kippy the lead - he represents the audience's point of view - but an argument can be made for the other three as well." On Broadway, meanwhile, "Take Me Out" is showing real box-office strength. Ever since it won the Tony in June, weekly grosses have not dipped below $300,000. Before the Tonys, the show seldom grossed more than $250,000 a week, despite strong reviews, media attention and almost total lack of competition from other non-musical plays. Advance ticket sales are nothing to get excited about (to be fair, they're pretty weak all around the street), but walk-up business is strong, which is an encouraging sign since it means that not every tourist wants to see a big dopey musical. Or maybe it's just those sensational shower scenes. Plans are in the works for a national tour of "Take Me Out" next year, and you can bet that once the rights become available, every regional theater in the country will want to mount its own production. Add to that the impending movie sale, and "Take Me Out" is fast becoming a booming little concern (no thanks to the Pulitzer Prize judges who passed over this fine play in favor of some obscure piece called "Anna in the Tropics," which I hardly think Ben Affleck is ever going to make into a movie). Greenberg is pleased with the fattening of his royalty checks. "I'm finally digging my way out of poverty," he says.

". Or maybe it's just those sensational shower scenes. " Whoa...I'll pay to see Ben Affleck in the buff;-))) So what about 3 DOR? Greenberg could add a 'sensational scene' here and there.*slurp*

Ada They came, they came...I had missed them..Lizzie and Darcy, now and forever. Rika Joe Prince...you , me and Murph can share him. (Don't like the chick too much , though) Thanks Dorine, unfortunately neither a blue suit or a towel could save Matthew "Say My Name"Field. But it was nice of him to come. I think you're safe giving me The Broadway.com gift certificate for a YKW play... Maybe when I'm listed on the deadpeople.com website. Kathy, "Sooners " doesn't exactly describe when Colin films get here...But once they come they stay on'n'on. We're the "graveyard" for his films. LOL at the MIA cake;-)but it counts Maria you brought all the "endearing oldies" to the party. Thank you....I mean, how can you pass up that gorgeous Armand. For Matthew?.. the serial womanizer;-) Leah Thank you for your good wishes. Yeah...we had 20 live ones here for the party and scads of skeletons... It was an unusualparty:-))

Evelyn, you had a deathday party:)

Fabulous Colin Ware Interview Boss. ROTFL! And I tell you, that's not easy in this heat:-))

(Colin) Colin: (laughs) I don't know where people get these things, though we check the gossip pages daily. Forget the gossip pages, just come on over and... lurk. :-) Since I've never been out of work, I put it down to good fortune. 20 years in the business and you still don't know you have talent?! ;-) Thanks for interview and articles, Karen. Hope PBS finds the corporate funding. There aren't enough "viewers like you" to make up the difference. :-(

Emmy nominations to be announced on Thursday: 'The Sopranos' Returns to Crowded Emmy Race By Steve Gorman "The Sopranos" are back as favorites to grab a piece of the action in this year's Emmy Awards, muscling in on a crowded field of TV politicians, cops, undertakers and spies vying for nominations for television's highest honors. The critically acclaimed HBO mob drama, which sat out the 2002 Emmys due to a production hiatus but returned to the running with fresh episodes last season, is widely seen as a major contender for best drama and other categories when nominees are announced on Thursday. "The Sopranos" has been nominated three times before as best drama, but the big prize has thus far eluded the show. Other front-runners for a bid in the drama contest are NBC's three-time winner "The West Wing," Fox's breakout espionage thriller "24," perennial NBC nominee "Law & Order" and the HBO funereal family soap opera "Six Feet Under," which was last year's most nominated show. But any of those series could be bumped out of the competition by the CBS hit "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation," television's highest-rated drama, or HBO's gritty freshman series about Baltimore's inner-city drug scene, "The Wire." Two other critically favored newcomers are likewise considered longshots in the drama competition -- the CBS missing-persons tale "Without a Trace" and NBC's crime series "Boomtown. In the race for best comedy, the slate of nominees will probably bear a striking resemblance to 2002's contenders, including last year's winner, the NBC smash hit "Friends," and HBO's "Sex and the City," the 2001 comedy winner poised for its fifth consecutive nomination in that category. 'LAW & ORDER' SET TO BREAK RECORD "Law & Order" stands to earn a best-drama bid for a record 12th straight year, surpassing "M*A*S*H" and "Cheers" for the most consecutive nominations for outstanding series by either a drama or comedy. Those three shows are currently tied at 11 consecutive nods each. Awards pundit Tom O'Neil, host of the showbiz awards Web site GoldDerby.com and author of the book "The Emmys," said "Law & Order" has a special advantage by virtue of its longevity. "I'll bet more than a quarter of the people voting on the Emmys probably have worked on 'Law & Order' in one way or another, and they have a very strong emotional attachment to the show," he said. "Remember, this is the industry voting on itself." ABC's spy adventure "Alias" and the FX cable channel's cop show "The Shield," which earned its star, Michael Chiklis, an Emmy last year, also are expected to pick up nominations, primarily in the acting, directing, writing and crafts categories, according to GoldDerby predictions. The Fox drama "24," starring Kiefer Sutherland, is tipped by some critics to emerge as this year's Emmy nominations darling, much the way "Six Feet Under" was in 2002. In the performance categories, O'Neil said he considered two-time winner Edie Falco a shoo-in for a best actress nod again for her role as a mobster's wife on "The Sopranos" (it would be her fourth consecutive nomination). He also said two dark horse candidates were likely to make a splash in this year's acting nominations -- Treat Williams for his role as a widower on the WB's "Everwood," and Tony Shalhoub, for his portrayal of an obsessive-compulsive detective on the USA Network comedy "Monk." The 55th annual Primetime Emmy Awards will be presented Sept. 21 during a Fox telecast from the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles.

AAA if this is old news. PBS gives new life to movie milestone By Hal Boedeker | Sentinel Television Critic Posted July 15, 2003 LOS ANGELES -- A new Doctor Zhivago sounds as unnecessary as a Casablanca remake or an updated Gone With the Wind. For many movie fans, the David Lean film endures for its spectacular scenery, memorable music and attractive stars Omar Sharif and Julie Christie. Hans Matheson follows Sharif as the poet-doctor Yury Zhivago. Keira Knightley, the rising star of Pirates of the Caribbean and Bend It Like Beckham, assumes the Christie role as Yury's greatest love, Lara. Television critics meeting to preview the fall lineup were skeptical as well. Yet Andrew Davies, who adapted Zhivago and many literary classics into television favorites, defended the project as fresh and valuable. "Masterpieces need to be reinterpreted for new generations," Davies said. "We weren't making a remake of the film. We were making an adaptation of the book." The new Zhivago comes from Granada Television, which produced Prime Suspect and The Forsyte Saga for PBS. Masterpiece Theatre executive producer Rebecca Eaton announced that a new Prime Suspect, with Dame Helen Mirren, will premiere in April. But Doctor Zhivago is the series' showcase production for the fall and will play during the highly competitive November sweeps. The miniseries, filmed entirely in the Czech Republic on a tight budget and featuring a new musical score, is bound to surprise fans of the Lean version, which emphasized visual spectacle. "I think ours is visually very strong," Davies said. "There were times when we would have liked 14,000 horsemen instead of 14." Davies has a long association with Masterpiece Theatre. He contributed the admired scripts of House of Cards, Middlemarch, Moll Flanders and Othello. He also successfully adapted Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice into an A&E miniseries. He isn't afraid to speak his mind, even if he antagonizes fans of the 1965 Zhivago. "I think of Omar Sharif as just a pair of lovely, soulful eyes, watching stuff going on," he said. "He's a very passive hero." He called Julie Christie "a lovely, lovely actress," but she seemed like "a nice English girl." Davies is now working on a movie version of Evelyn Waugh's Brideshead Revisited, the beloved miniseries that starred Jeremy Irons. "It's kind of got into me, this thing of annoying people about their old favorites," Davies said. "It's quite an exciting feeling about doing a new version that a lot of those people won't like because they adore what they think of as the original." Here's the link for the entire article (it worked in practice, crossing fingers it works now) Dr. Zhivago

Congrats Sonia , I've never been able to figure out the shortened link! Does anybody know when Forstye Saga will be televised. Currently playing in UK....or is it over? I will look forward to the new Brideshead; never did like Jeremy Irons (and he's alive!)in it. Dr. Zhivago, I dunno. That ole cast is pretty riveting. I'm looking for "Keen Eddie" (on tonight) to make the Emmy short list in '04.

(Evelyn) Congrats Sonia , I've never been able to figure out the shortened link! Thanks, I owe it all the Tutorial. AD will have a field day with Brideshead. Look forward to seeing it as well. Dr. Z should be interesting.

Ananova..... Pacino talks about new TV role Al Pacino has been discussing his TV debut playing a man who refuses to accept that he's dying of Aids. He will appear with Meryl Streep and Emma Thompson in Angels In America, based on Tony Kushner's play about the lives of two couples in the 1980s. Pacino says that until now the only parts he's been terested in were in film or on the stage. "I've never done television. I guess it was natural thing for me to go from movies to the theatre," he said. "You look at the scripts that come to you, the scripts that either you get or a friend of yours or someone tells you about. That's how it is." He last considered a TV role in 1981 when he was offered the part of Hitler in the television movie The Bunker. Anthony Hopkins eventually took the role. US network HBO is to make the �40 million, six-and-a-half-hour series, which is due to be screened this autumn.

Keira Knightley, the rising star of Pirates of the Caribbean and Bend It Like Beckham, assumes the Christie role as Yury's greatest love, Lara. Huh? Anybody besides me think she's not all that? Sure she's very pretty, (though not particularly in BILB), but I don't think she's all that compelling to be getting all the high profile jobs she has been lately. Might be just me. (Evelyn) I will look forward to the new Brideshead; never did like Jeremy Irons (and he's alive!)in it. I, on the other hand, wish they'd leave it as it was. Must admit always had a thing for JI. And I tell you that man works out! Big plus for me (in my shallow mode)! ;-)

(Dorine) Anybody besides me think she's not all that? Ebert! I just read his POTC review which said he didn't understand what the fuss was all about....I also heard she is only eighteen? Very young for the part of Lara. Will admit that I saw POTC this weekend and LOVED it. Hadn't had that much fun since 'Finding Nemo'! Guess I'm regressing...Johnny Depp had the most interesting (I don't know how else to put it) and funny performance! Geoffrey Rush was fantastic as well...and Orlando was just fun to look at! Jonathan Pryce played another 'Alistair Payne' type part. (Dorine) Must admit always had a thing for JI. Need to introduce you to my college ex! Looked just like JI (everyone commented on it).

(Tress) Need to introduce you to my college ex! Looked just like JI (everyone commented on it). Thanks for thinking of me, but I'll hold out for the real one, who I just saw in a play. ;-) Though the real one smokes and is said to be a womanizer. Will admit that I saw POTC this weekend and LOVED it. All the reviews I read said it's fun and pick out JD's and GR's, and occasionally OB's performances as quite good. Have to say, if I decide to gear my obsessive affections to the younger set, Orlando Bloom is the TOP person, really.....to me. ;-) I think he's *quite* attractive in an Errol Flynn-Douglas Fairbanks, Jr kinda way. And I love his accent.... and the voice, too, *almost* as much as COlin's, though can't hold a candle to ODB's though.

Ev: No Keen Eddie Tonight - The All Star Game pre-empts. I'm trying the one on Bravo at 10 where four gay guys redo a straight guy. Should be fun. Thanks for remembering how I like that sweetheart of a guy - Joe Prince. I'll look for my old poem on him

I found it amongst the 100's of Firth Floppies: Avast, me hearties! Bring the guns out now, A battle's brewing Over Femme Fatale. It wasn't his best, and It didn't always make sense But I'm one of those people Who loved Joe Prince. Loyal and faithful, Sweet as a bun, He loved several women Though they were all really one. We should be so lucky To find someone like Joe. He's kind to moths, And he dances-- sigh -- slow.

Thanks Murph... Loyal and faithful, Sweet as a bun, He loved several women Though they were all really one. How can you not love this guy

(Evelyn) How can you not love this guy Psst....Evelyn...I love Joe! I have a soft, squishy spot for him (and his toes). Thank you Murph!

Tress)Psst....Evelyn...I love Joe! I have a soft, squishy spot for him (and his toes). Thank you Murph! One hell of a shag scene there too! Who cared if it made sense? Or is that the squishy part you were talking about?;-)

Just a reminder that we have one more July birthday - EmmaB, our intrepid premiere reporter, on July 18.

Alexander Walker, one of the UK�s best-known, longest-lasting and most highly-paid and influential film critics, died suddenly yesterday at the London Clinic. He was 73 and had been undergoing tests for cancer. Walker, born in Portadown, Northern Ireland and educated at Queens University, Belfast, was critic of the London Evening Standard for some 43 years. He moved to the Standard from the Birmingham Post in 1960 after a personal letter of recommendation to the editor from Kenneth More, who had been delighted by one of his reviews. As a controversial critic, who could whack a film-maker for a bad movie harder than most, he did not always delight. He was, in fact, cursed as much as praised. His campaigns against some of the policies of BAFTA, the BFI and the Film Council became almost legendary. Whatever you thought of his opinions, he was a first-class writer and his reviews remained as fresh and challenging when he became a veteran at the game as when he first started. Apart from reviewing, he took a great and very knowledgeable interest in the industry both in the UK and in Hollywood and wrote 20 books about it and its stars. His biographies were invariably well researched and his Hollywood, England was one of the best about the post-war industry. He was also one of the few critics whom Stanley Kubrick allowed near him and wrote an appreciation of his films still read today by aspiring directors. Walker, always immaculately turned out and usually extremely polite and friendly, nevertheless had a temper on him that sometimes almost brought the heavens down. He was not a man to cross. But he could also be a very good and helpful friend, even if you smoked, which to him was a cardinal sin. When you rang him and got his answering machine, his message ended: "And remember, smoking is the slow way to suicide". He lived alone in a flat at Maida Vale and his main relaxation from films was skiing. Otherwise, he lived almost entirely through his work. He once said that the fact that he was an insomniac enabled him to research and write his books. One of the attributes least known about him was his sense of humour. He was an excellent dinner companion, regaling those at many a table with a great many indiscreet and wonderfully told stories.

Ya snooze, ya lose!! ;-) Would've liked Kevin Spacey for this,I think, of the ones they offered it to, who passed. Travolta Says Turning Down 'Chicago' Big Mistake 1 hour, 42 minutes ago BERLIN (Reuters) - John Travolta (news), who became an icon for the disco craze with is dancing in "Saturday Night Fever," says he made a big mistake in turning down a starring role in this year's Academy Award winning film "Chicago." "You're rubbing salt in my wounds," Travolta told Germany's Bunte magazine in an excerpt released ahead of publication on Thursday. "I'm still angry with myself that I turned down the role of the lawyer in Chicago that Richard Gere (news) then got." Travolta said Gere did a great job with the dance numbers in Chicago, which dominated the Academy Awards (news - web sites) and won best picture. "But oh, how I would have loved to have showed them all what I can do one more time," said Travolta, 49.

(Dorine)Ya snooze, ya lose!! ;-) Would've liked Kevin Spacey for this,I think, of the ones they offered it to, who passed. You got that right! I didn't know about KS turning it down but you are so right. Am looking forward to what he does with the Bobby Darin Story.

From Ireland Show Biz: It's curtain up for glitzy new Irish Oscars Thursday July 17th 2003 ROLL out the red carpet and shake out your best party dress - the Oscars are coming to town. Details of Ireland's answer to Hollywood's smartest showbiz event were revealed yesterday as it was confirmed that the first Irish Film and Television Awards will take place on November 1. The gala event will include all the trappings and razzmatazz of the annual Academy ceremony, from specially crafted golden figurines to a bevy of glamourous celebrities. The chosen venue, the Burlington Hotel, is to get a face-lift and make-over so it exudes the movie-star magic and opulence of the Kodak Building in Los Angeles. A cavalcade of limousines has been booked to deliver the nominees, in their trademark satin bustiers, diamonds and stilettos, to the banquet for 800 guests. A veil of secrecy has shielded the awards for months while organisers, The Irish Film and Television Network, put the finishing touches in place. The Awards will be officially launched at a reception in ICE bar of the Four Seasons Hotel on July 30. Colin Farrell joins Oscar-nominated film maker Jim Sheridan and acclaimed writer/director Conor McPherson on the Awards advisory committee. Kevin Spacey, Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman and Bob Hoskins are just a few of the international actors who have been invited to Dublin for the ceremony - and some of them are expected to be up on stage to reveal who the winners are. Irish actors who may also be in attendance include Liam Neeson, Gabriel Byrne, Aidan Quinn, Brenda Fricker and James Nesbitt. Grainne Cunningham

(Evelyn)nice of you to get Jimmy Hoffa's cement shoes for me...I was hoping for a pair of Manolo's like Carrie's..but what the hey;-) Sorry, Ev, I screwed up big time. I asked for Jimmy Choos . . . and they sent me Jimmy's shoes. Last time I order from Walmart online.;-) And how ironic is it that they're now digging around for Jimmy H's remains? Nothing on this guy for 25+ years, but he shows up at your party, and . . . bada-BING! They're onto him again.;-) They should just let him rest in pieces, er, peace.;-) Colin: I was having dinner with a friend who gave me a nod in that direction, saying this has got your name on it... Charlie: In what way? Colin: The main character is named Colin. Oh too funny, Karen. Hoping that better times (and roles) are ahead, and I'm very optimistic about the chances for a real Charlie Rose interview for GWAPE. Am sure Charlie's granny is a fan.;-) (Tress)Will admit that I saw POTC this weekend and LOVED it. Hadn't had that much fun since 'Finding Nemo'! LOL! I also enjoyed "Pirates" though I thought it went on for about a half hour too long. Johnny Depp makes the movie--what an "out there", funny performance. He said he had Keith Richards in mind when trying to work out how he was going to play the character, and I can really see that. One critic said he was channeling Dudley Moore as Arthur, and I can see that too. I was also thinking "slightly tipsy drag queen." Whatever, he's perfect. I thought Keira was ok, she has a spunk about her. Orlando Bloom should be renamed OrBlando. Zzzzzzzzzzz . . . Geoffrey Rush chewed the scenery as usual, which for this movie, worked fine.

ok, technically, here it is already friday the 18th... the clock just about shows 2:30 AM, and i am still up. the reason of course, is to celebrate emma's birthday : but look emma, someone at your door ! could it be...*the* mark darcy himself ? with a nice bottle of wine ? a nice suit ? a wicked smile ? well, i'm not telling you, you'll have to check out for yourself who is freezing his butt on your doormat. animatronicolin 2.1, au naturel ??? extra super mega giga warning this little game of mine is getting totally out of control : this file weighs 737 ko, which means a good four minute loading time for those with a 56 K modem... i definitely have to find a clever way to compress my little boys enjoy, you birthday girl, and bring us more insane reports !

ooops! mispelling the url won't get me nowhere... there he is, for your pleasure and enjoyment : animatronicolin 2.1, au naturel ???

Oh Sophie! That was sooo worth the wait!

LOL, Sophie! Thank God for cable modems, too. :-)

Emma, looks like the party has started. (Sophie, what a treat!) I hope you have a great birthday. I had another look at your PEN pictures this morning, and thought, What more could a girl want for her birthday, that 'lean-in / hug' thing would have set me up for life!

(Mari) Am sure Charlie's granny is a fan.;-) *snort* A Twirlogram!! Brilliantly executed and worth whatever wait. Thanks, Soph!

*Beautifully* done, sophie! ... And now to add to the good wishes... Dear EmmaB ... ..Hope you have a high old time ...!

Oh my god... I don't always check in here at O&E but Sophie, that is the most brilliant start to my day!! I will no longer wince at the thought of the scarf twirl-- he's not making an ass of himself, he's doing it for me! :) Thanks for well wishes all. Will check in again later. Alas no Pride and Prejudice at Lyme Park for me tonight. Mum is in town from Canada and we are off to Brussels tomorrow. And next weekend I get to see the real GWAPE in person - in the gallery, that is. Can't complain about that.

Thinking of you, Emma! Happy Birthday!"

Happy Birthday, Emma! First, I'd like to share a pic that I've been playing around with: ODB with Fireflies . I know it pulsates a little too much, but I�m still a neophyte. :-) Now, onto your horoscope: IF JULY 18 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY ... you possess an inquiring mind with a flair for languages and curiosity about foreign lands that make you a good traveler. You like to escape into movies, music and virtual reality. Health and nutrition are important issues. A successful year lies ahead with long-distance travel and renewed curiosity in foreign lands and religions. Love and money in August; travel in December. There's a hidden, shy, dreamy side to your nature. *************** Birthdates which occurred on July 18: 1635 Robert Hooke Isle of Wight, physicist (Micrographia) 1720 Gilbert White "father of British naturalists" 1796 Feargus O'Connor County Cork, leader of the English Chartists 1811 William Makepeace Thackeray England, Victorian novelist (Vanity Fair) 1848 William Gilbert Grace Victorian England's greatest cricketer 1853 Hendrik Antoon Lorentz Holland, physicist (Nobel 1902) 1865 Laurence Housman England, author/playwright (Victoria Regina) 1890 Charles Wilson Pres of General Motors (1940-53)/Sec of Def (1953-57) 1891 Gene Lockhart NYC, actor (Going My Way) 1894 Bernard Wagenaar Arnhem Holland, composer (3 Songs for the Chinese) 19-- Art Holiday Hartford Conn, actor (Eddie-The White Shadow) 19-- Danny Vaughn Staten Island NY, rocker (Tyketto-Wings) 19-- Susan Marie Snyder soap actress 1903 Chill Wills Seagoville Texas, actor (Fronteir Circus, Rounders) 1906 Clifford Odets US, dramatist (1961 Award of Merit-Golden Boy) 1906 S.I. Hayakawa (Sen-R-CA) educator (Language in Action) 1909 Andrei Gromyko USSR, diplomat/USSR President (1985-89) [7/5 OS] 1909 Harriet Nelson Des Moines, actress (Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet) 1910 Red Skelton comedian (Clem Kadiddlehopper, Freddie the Freeloader) 1911 Hume Cronyn London Ontario, actor (World According to Garp, Cocoon) 1913 Marvin Miller St Louis Mo, actor (Space Patrol, Millionaire) 1914 Mack Robinson US, 200m dash (Olympic-silver-1932) 1916 Harriet Hilliard Nelson singer/actress (Ozzie & Harriet) 1918 Jane Frazee Duluth Minn, actress/singer (Alice-Beulah) 1918 Nelson Mandela Qunu South Africa, political prisoner (ANC) 1918 Pamela Brown England, actress (Alice in Wonderland, Dracula) 1921 John H Glenn Jr Cambridge Ohio, Col USMC astronaut (Mer 6, Sen-D-Oh) 1924 Howard Roberts Burlington NJ, choral director (Leslie Uggams Show) 1924 Inge S�rensen Denmark, 200m breaststroke (Olympic-bronze-1936) 1925 Shirley Strickland de la Hunty Austria, 100m dash (Oly-bronze-1948) 1926 Jane Hylton London England, actress (Adv of Sir Lancelot) 1929 "Screamin Jay" Hawkins Cleveland, rocker (I Put a Spell on You) 1929 Dick Button commentator/figure skater (Olympic-gold-1948, 1952) 1933 R Murray Schafer Sarnia Ontario, Canada, composer (Patria) 1933 Yevgeny Yevtushenko Russia, poet (Bratsk Station) 1935 Tenley Albright US, doctor/figure skater (Olympic-gold-1956) 1938 Britt Leach Gadsen Ala, actor (Mickey-Spencer's Pilots) 1939 Brian Auger London, fusion keyboardist (Befour, Genesis) 1939 Dion DiMucci Bronx, rocker (Dion & the Belmonts-Teenager in Love) 1939 Hunter S Thompson writer (Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas) 1940 James Brolin LA Calif, actor (Dr Kiley-Marcus Welby, Peter-Hotel) 1940 Joseph Torre outfield/manager (Braves, Mets, 1971 NL MVP) 1941 Lonnie Mack Aurora Indiana, rocker (Baby What's Wrong) 1941 Marcia Jones Smoke Okla, 500m kayak (Olympic-bronze-1964) 1941 Martha Reeves Detroit Mich, singer (& the Vandellas-Dancing in St) 1943 Bobby Sherman Santa Monica Calif, singer (Shindig, Here Comes Brides) 1943 Calvin Peete black PGA golfer 1944 Jonelle Allen NYC, actress (Bessie-Palmerstown USA, Berringers) 1947 Ayn Rumen Bkln NY, actress (Janet-McLean Stevenson Show) 1947 Kurt Mann Roslyn NY, actor 1954 Ricky Skaggs singer (Toy Hearts, 2 Different Worlds) 1955 Teresa Ann Savoy London England, actress (Caligula) 1958 Nigel Twist rocker (The Alarm-In the Summertime) 1959 Audrey Landers Phila, actress (Afton-Dallas, Chorus Line) 1961 Elizabeth McGovern Evanston Ill, actress (Once Upon a Time in Amer) 1970 Patrick Dancy TV rocker (Guys Next Door-I Was Made For You) On this day... 64 Great Fire of Rome begins (Nero didn't fiddle) 390 -BC- Battle of Allia-Gauls inflict heavy casualties on Romans 1536 Pope's authority declared void in England 1716 Jews are expelled from Brussels Belgium 1753 Lemuel Haynes, escapes from slaveholder in Framingham Mass 1814 British capture Prairie du Chien (Wisc) 1853 1st train to cross the US-Canada boundary, Portland, Me.-Montr�al, PQ 1853 Completion of Grand Trunk Line, Americas 1st intl railroad 1872 Britain introduces secret ballot voting 1904 P Gotz discovers asteroid #538 Friederike 1913 After 68 straight innings Christy Mathewson gives up a walk 1914 US army air service 1st comes into being, in the Signal Corps 1915 Boston Braves start move from last place to become world series champs 1918 US & French forces launch Aisne-Marne offensive in WW I 1927 Ty Cobb's 4,000th career hit 1931 1st air-conditioned ship (Mariposa) launched 1932 US & Canada signed a treaty to develop St Lawrence Seaway 1936 Spanish Civil War begans, Gen Francisco Franco led uprising 1938 Douglas "Wrong Way" Corrigan arrives in Ireland-left NY for Calif 1940 1st successful helicopter flight, Stratford, Ct 1942 1st legal NJ horse race in 50 years; Garden State Park track opens 1942 Messerschmitt Me 262 Schwalbe, 1st jet fighter, takes 1st flight 1947 Tigers shut out Yanks 2-0, end 19 game win streak 1947 US receives UN trusteeship over Pacific Islands 1948 Pat Seerey of Chicago White Sox hits 4 HRs in a game 1951 Jersey Joe Walcott at 37 becomes oldest to win heavyweight champion 1951 Jersey Joe Walcott KOs Ezzard Charles in 5 for heavyweight belt 1951 Uruguay accepts its constitution 1954 Cards losing 8-1 to Phillies begin stalling in 5th, they forefeit game 1955 1st electric power generated from atomic energy sold commercially 1959 1st black to win a major golf tournament (William Wright) 1960 Baseball's NL votes to add Houston & NY franchises 1964 Race riot in Harlem (NYC); riots spread to Bedford-Stuyvesant (Bkln) 1965 Zond 3 launched to fly by Moon, enters solar orbit 1966 Carl Sagan turns 1 billion seconds old 1966 Gemini 10 launched 1967 Silver hits record $1.87 an ounce in NY 1968 C Torres discovers asteroid #2654 Ristenpart 1968 Intel incorporates #1974 Caupolican, #1992 Galvarino & #2028 Janequeo C Torres & S Cofre discovers asteroid #1973 Colocolo, 1969 Joe Namath agrees to sell interest in Bachelors 3, to stay in NFL 1969 Mary Jo Kopechne & Sen Kennedy plunge off Chappaquiddick bridge 1970 Arthur Brown arrested for stripping on stage in Palemo Sicily 1970 Ron Hunt gets hit by a pitch for a record 119th time 1970 Willie Mays hits # 3,000 1972 200,000 attend Mt Pocono rock festival in Penns 1974 World's tallest structure, 646-m Polish radio mast, completed 1975 Jury can't decide on trial of Dave Fopbes of Boston Bruins (1st athlete indicted for excessive violence during play) 1976 Thiokol conducts 2-min firing of space shuttle's SRB at Brigham, Ut 1978 Billy Martin suspends Reggie Jackson for not bunting 1978 Egyptian & Israeli officials begin 2 days of talks 1979 Gold hits record $303.85 an ounce in London 1980 Billy Joel's Glass Houses album tops charts 1980 Rohini 1, 1st Indian satellite, launches into orbit 1984 James Huberty kills 21 McDonalds patrons in San Ysidro Calif 1984 Walter F Mondale wins Democratic presidential nomination in SF 1986 Videotapes released showing Titanic's sunken remains 1987 Molly Yard elected new pres of Natl Org for Women 1987 Yanks Don Mattingly ties major league record of HRs in 8 cons games

Just a minute driver, I am off to get Emma. This is the second premiere she attends and I want her with me. Happy Birthday Emma!

Damm yahoo. To see pictures, click with mouse on right, copy properties, place url on address bar and go. The picture will appear. Enjoy your day, Emma!

Sorry, folks, but I need to wish Emma a Happy Birthday!!

Happy Birthday to Emma, our girl on the scene. May you have many future encounters so we can continue to receive your wonderful up close and personal reports. Hope you have a splendid day!

The intrepid reporter is live on the scene, Tracking his movements she knows just where he�s been, At PEN, in the tube, as well Wycombe Park Following his footsteps, by day or in the dark. Torrential rains may fall and Hope Springs may stink, Premieres, readings, screenings, she won�t be there to think. Respectable at work she�s a drooler at heart, Newspapers, internet are research tools to start. She was in his presence and lived to tell the tale With pictures to prove it, she tried and did not fail. From Canada she came, to London she went far A happy birthday, Emma, fab reporter that you are!

I'm sitting here thinking of the lovely encounters I've had with Emmaand wishing I could see her in person to wish her a

Hi Emma! Make a wish..... And blow out the candle.... Did you get your wish?

(Emma)And next weekend I get to see the real GWAPE in person - in the gallery, that is. Can't complain about that. What a treat for you! Enjoy your visit there, and have a very happy birthday today!

And to Rika!.....

Emma, I've come to wish you a very happy birthday, and to invite you to the premiere of WAGW in August. You must come...you know what they say, third time is the charm...or something like that. Thank you ladies for making Emma's birthday a very enjoyable occasion for all of us...as usual.

A Very Happy Birthday Wish to Our Favorite Field Reporter!!!Best Wishes to You Emma!!!

(Mari)...Johnny Depp makes the movie--what an "out there", funny performance. He said he had Keith Richards in mind when trying to work out how he was going to play the character... In his review of "Pirates of the Caribbean", John Leonard described Johnny Depp's performance of Captain Jack Sparrow as "one third Errol Flynn, one fifth Keith Richards, and 2 pints Truman Capote".

Happy Birthday Emma! Hope it's a good one!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, EMMA Have a wonderful time in Belgium...hope you're going to Brugge...

Hope your day is great Emma!!

Dear Emma, In such cases as this, it is, I believe, the established mode to express a sense of creativity in making a birthday greeting. But � I cannot. I do not seem to be able to find a single creative bone in my entire body. So � the only �idea� I had, was that both our countries have a Queen. Pretty pathetic, don�t you think? Anyway, this lead me to give you a Daisy, which is our Queens nickname among friends and family (not that I�m one of them :-) ) And to present it � properly � is the man we all know as Mr Firth in his royal outfit: (Lisa - horoscope) you possess an inquiring mind with a flair for languages and curiosity about foreign lands that make you a good traveler. You like to escape into movies, music and .... There's a hidden, shy, dreamy side to your nature. From your excellent reports this seems quite accurate, don't you think? :-)

Too many to thank, this is very generous! Lisa, the fireflies were quite pretty in an already pretty picture (IMHO). Sophie must be mentioned again (my friends loved it when I sent them that link), Leah, KJ, Rika, Moon, Karen, Hen, Sonia (the poem is so creative! I am touched!), KathyF, Beedee, Lora, Linda, Tress, Barb, Evelyn (no, not Brugges! and I have now heard that is where we should be going a few times!), Maria, Annette - thank you all for your well wishes, and frequent mentions of my intrepid London adventures. Glad I can be of service. Not that it's really hard work! It's been almost a year since I moved here and I have to say all around it was a very good decision, not just because of one fabulous lean in in April either! Although it ranks highly =) Next up, WAGW, right Janet?

hey LisaJH: i see you are still favoring the snowglobe technique, this time with fireflies (butterflies, gutterflies, flutterbies...). 1.1 Mo as well, you beat me on that one ! imagine: the two od us could launch armies of virtual colins� on the internet. oh, the power !

Ack! I am so sorry Emma, I didn't mean to miss your birthday. I've become a brainless twit after herding 13 cub scouts around camp this week. I hope you had a happy day and that this makes up for my brainlessness:-)!

(Sophie) hey LisaJH: i see you are still favoring the snowglobe technique, this time with fireflies (butterflies, gutterflies, flutterbies...). 1.1 Mo as well, you beat me on that one ! LOL, Sophie, I recently bought the software as I am a bit of a snowglobe nut.;-) Just wait until I play with the smoke and fire features...which will be perfect for smouldering Vermeer pics. :-) imagine: the two of us could launch armies of virtual colins� on the internet. oh, the power ! Ah, but you are the true master (mistress?) of this domain! ;-) I am not worthy. But give me time...give me time. ;-) Love the idea of armies of virtual Colins. Bwwwaaaahaha ;-)

I can't believe I fell asleep and nearly forgot to give you your present. Happy Birthday Emma!

Oh Ada! Thanks for sending Emma *my* favorite:-)

Karen: Not sure if there is still a Clive Owen thread around here, but I have up to date news on King Arthur (with a forum spot for extras to report in and talk), in case anyone is interested. http://www.murphsplace.com/owen/arthur/arthur.html (You can move if this is in the wrong spot)

A&E Launching British Spy Drama By FRAZIER MOORE, AP Television Writer MI5, or just plain Five, was founded a century ago to protect England's national security from internal threats. This London-based agency, whose staff today totals 1,900, is now the subject of a smart new spy drama, "MI-5," which, complete with supplemental hyphen, has been imported for American viewers by A&E. Undercover work. Slick, high-tech devices. Gritty plot twists. Attractive agents. They're all part of the "MI-5" recipe. Plus the difficulties of protecting day-to-day life in Britain while maintaining one's own personal life. (How is senior case officer Tom Quinn supposed to have a relationship with the women he loves when he can't tell her who he really is?) "MI-5" premieres Tuesday at 9 p.m. EDT with an episode that centers on the search for an anti-abortion terrorist. A second episode in the series' regular 10 p.m. slot finds Tom and a female colleague posing as a married couple to nail a businessman suspected of planning a race war. Matthew Macfadyen stars as Quinn, with Keeley Hawes, David Oyelowo and Peter Firth ("Equus") among the co-stars of this gripping series, originally seen on BBC television.

For lovers of period romances... Myles assumes 'Tristan' throne British actress Sophia Myles will star with James Franco in the 20th Century Fox/Franchise Pictures period romance "Tristan & Isolde," which Kevin Reynolds is directing for studio-based Scott Free.... Set in medieval Britain and Ireland, "Tristan" is an adaptation of the romantic myth about doomed young lovers. It follows Tristan (Franco), an English knight who attempts to unite England by winning the hand of the Irish king's daughter, Isolde (Myles). The knight falls in love with the future queen, but she is already married to another. Their affair threatens the future of Britain. Dean Georgaris wrote the script for the project, which is being produced by Ridley Scott, Tony Scott, Elie Samaha, Giannina Facio and Moshe Diamant. Myles...Past film credits include "From Hell" and "Mansfield Park."

"Tristan & Isolde," is one of my favourites. They better not mess this up. Thanks, Karen.

"British Spy drama....gripping series, originally seen on BBC television." BBC...MI5 Spy Drama...Now *that* will be factual;-D "Tristan and Islode"...I would mind the music to go with it. " Myles...Past film credits include 'From Hell' and 'Mansfield Park.' " *snort* Both losers.

" Myles...Past film credits include 'From Hell' and 'Mansfield Park.' " (Evelyn) *snort* Both losers. I agree. Mansfield Park IMO was a big disappointment compared to the other JA screen versions. Just horrible.

"British Spy drama....gripping series, originally seen on BBC television." (Evelyn) BBC...MI5 Spy Drama...Now *that* will be factual;-D WHy bother, I'll just watch and read the news. It'll take up less time. ;-)

Ev: Keen Eddie has been moved to Thursday at 8. I liked MI-5 very much. Fast moving and characters you want to get to know better.

I liked MI-5, too. I think it will be easier to follow after we get to know the characters better. Did they not run any credits? One of the women looked familiar and I wanted to know who she is. And what's the verdict on that guy in the street? Is he part of the bad guys, part of MI-5, or just a dustman making his rounds? Someone told me that "Eddie" was cancelled. I hope that was just a misunderstanding due to the change in time.

(Kate) One of the women looked familiar Keeley Hawes (Zoe Reynolds) was in Tipping the Velvet. I missed the premiere of MI-5 hope to catch it on the replay Saturday night. Mary, Kate, thanks for the positive review.

Thank you Murph for the Keen Eddie heads up....I was devastated!! I like the format of MI5...split screens, action on three screens at times. But Peter Firth leaves me cold. The supporting cast is excellent. I like KE better.

Flim Stew: MI-5 By Richard Horgan In keeping with the times, the young undercover agent at the center of MI-5 is nothing like his more famous and exaggerated counterpart at MI-6, James Bond. Played with earnest angst by British actor Matthew Macfadyen, Tom Quinn drives an ordinary car, has only one girlfriend and rather than gleefully revealing his name and identity to anyone who might be willing to mix him a martini, prefers to pass himself off as a nebbish computer systems technician. He also struggles mightily with the way his covert professional life interferes with the flow of the relationship he so desperately covets with Ellie (Esther Hall), a restaurant owner, and her young daughter Maisie (Heather Cave). Since debuting in 2001 under the original title Spooks, the show has been delighting British audiences and it�s easy to see why. Chief among the reasons for MI-5�s success are its realistic villains, a kinetic bag of visual tricks and a solid supporting cast. In the first two episodes, Quinn and his fellow operatives at Section B battle a Florida housewife�s fervent pro-life campaign and a sadistic waste management tycoon�s brazen manipulation of the politics of illegal immigration. Purely by accident, when the episode about immigration first aired in England, the lead story on the BBC newscast immediately following the program was about the very same subject, leading some viewers to thinking it was part of the show. As played by Lisa Eichorn and Kevin McNally, pro-life terrorist Mary Kane and right wing extremist Robert Osborne are villains cut from an entirely different cloth than the impresarios bent on world domination in the Bond films. Torn from today�s news headlines, their terror is more focused and insidious, most notably in next week�s episode when McNally looks on as one of his henchmen uses a fast food fryer as a ghastly torture device. That particular scene, based on an actual IRA technique, had an added impact when it was first shown in England because one of the actresses involved in the grease pit horror was a popular soap opera star (Lisa Faulkner from the series Holby City), whom the local audience in no way expected to see caught up in such gory tactics. For its A&E run, each episode of MI-5 has been trimmed from an original BBC running time of 58 minutes to a more commercial-friendly 44 minutes. It�s something of a reverse compliment to say that the show manages to sustain the loss of 14 minutes of content and still keep viewers glued to the strand of each narrative. But MI-5 owes its visceral power to a lot more than that. Thanks to its extensive use of split screens, slow motion segment intros, jittery camera moves and original music by Jennie Muskett, the show is lean and mean entertainment that feels more akin to HBO shows like The Wire and The Sopranos than any previous A&E British period import. Macfadyen, who bears a striking resemblance to Star Trek: The Next Generation star Brent Spinner, fashions an extremely complex and compelling portrait of the government agent as a tormented young man. While he is definitely the heart and soul of the show, he benefits from a supporting cast that provides an equal mix of youth and experience. Veteran British actors Peter Firth (Pearl Harbor, Amistad) and Jenny Agutter (Logan�s Run, An American Werewolf In London) score points respectively as the well-worn head of operations and no-nonsense section head, providing a center of gravity for newer British faces on this side of the Atlantic such as Keeley Hawes, David Oyelowo and Natasha Little. Ultimately, it�s a thrill to make room this summer for a new TV show that is grounded in a reality that has nothing to do with bachelors, women forced to choose between love and money or a certain slumming American Idol judge. Not to mention one that suggests that not all operatives of national security need to look like Jennifer Garner or Gil Bellows. [MI-5�s premiere episode, �Thou Shall Not Kill�, debuts July 22nd, 2003 on A&E, with new episodes scheduled to air each week on Tuesdays at 10 pm with a repeat performance on Saturdays at 11 pm. Please check your local listings or go to AETV.com]

(Evelyn)Thank you Murph for the Keen Eddie heads up....I was devastated!! I love Keen Eddie. I hope it does better on Thursdays. I read that it was not doing as well as they hoped. Now if KE was going to be the lead in for a decent show at 10, it might have done better. Instead it lead into that poxy, stupid, Paradise Hotel that should have been devastated by a tsunami weeks ago. I taped MI-5 hope to watch it tonight. Anyone watching The Royal on PBS? (Tuesday 10:00) I watched my tape of it this morning...not bad. Thanks, Murph.

(Evelyn)I like KE better. So do I. I'm glad they moved Eddie, it saves me messing with the VCR. And if I couldn't tape one and watch the other, I'd go with Eddie, definitely. It cracks me up every time Pippin calls Eddie "Dude!" Thanks for posting the review, Murph. A friend of mine identified the woman in MI 5 who looked familiar to me--Jenny Agutter (not sure if that's spelled right) plays Tess, who so far has only had to roll her eyes and look ticked off at her boss. (Linda)that poxy, stupid, Paradise Hotel Sooo, I guess that's a thumbs-down, then?

Now I ask you...does this make any sense or did I spend half my life last summer watching someone else cavort around Dashwood Manor in period dress? How can they get it so wrong?? We know Reese didn't say that. sheesh. This is an exerpt from an article regarding the London premiere of Legally Blonde 2 from femail UK. First trip to the UK Witherspoon, who has a three-year-old daughter and is expecting her second child in December, said it was great to be in London for the premiere. "It's great to be here. I have never been to the UK before. I'm just glad it didn't rain." She said she was currently filming a new movie, Vanity Fair, just outside London and would be returning to America once filming had finished. Asked about a third Legally Blonde film, she added: "I'll have to see if people like the second. I don't really know." For the full article: http://www.femail.co.uk/pages/standard/article.html?in_article_id=189762&in_page_id=119&ito=1458&itc=0

(Linda)did I spend half my life last summer watching someone else cavort around Dashwood Manor in period dress? No, it was definitely Reese. Maybe they used that "Gump" technology to drop her into her scenes?????? At least they didn't quote her as saying "It has always been a girlish dream of mine to visit London."

From Ireland breaking news: British unknown to star in Alfie remake 24/07/2003 - 10:05:44 A British actress already known to American television viewers is about to make her name in the UK, too. Blonde Sienna Miller has been chosen by Paramount to star opposite Jude Law in its as-yet-untitled remake of Michael Caine's 1996 comedy Alfie, the studio has announced. The 21-year-old Miller has dual citizenship in the United States and Britain, and is starring in the American weekly television drama series Keen Eddie. In Alfie she will play Nikki, pursued by Law�s character as the girl of his dreams. Filming is expected to start in London in September. ************************************ This from Reuters Entertainment - on the show that took KE's place on Tuesday: LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - "Paradise Hotel" showed some ratings spunk for Fox television on Tuesday, helping the network tie NBC for a nightly win in the key demographic of viewers 18 to 49, according to preliminary estimates from Nielsen Media Research.

closing bold, I hope

FILM MUSIC AT THE PROMS As part of the 2003 Proms, a concert of Great British Film Music will be presented on Saturday 16th August 2003 at the Royal Albert Hall in London. The BBC Concert Orchestra and BBC Singers will be conducted by Rumon Gamba. The programme is as follows: Rawsthorne The Cruel Sea (1953) (5 mins) Bax Oliver Twist (1948) - Selections from published 'Suite No. 1' (10 mins) Richard Addinsell Warsaw Concerto (8 mins) Sir Malcolm Arnold The Belles of St Trinians (1954) (8 mins) Sir William Walton Richard III (1955) - Prelude (arr. Mathieson) (7 mins) interval Sir Richard Rodney Bennett Murder on the Orient Express (1974) (arr. Lindup) (11 mins) John Barry Lion in Winter - suite (with chorus); Dances with Wolves; James Bond selection (18 mins) Sir Arthur Bliss Things to Come (1936): Prologue - March - Attack - Pestilence - Excavation - The Building of the New World - Machines - Attack on the Moon Gun - Epilogue (20 mins) The concert starts at 7.00pm and ticket prices range from �6-�25. The concert will also be broadcast live both on BBC2 and on the internet and will be available for 'on-demand' listening from 17th-23rd August on the web. For more information visit http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms

Since this is the first time since July 8th that I've had time to come her I send very belated birthday wishes to Lisa, Evelyn and Emma. Between doing some in home care and having 11 guests since June 23 I've been a little busy.

For Janice fans in the metro NYC area, there will be a remembrance concert in Central Park in early August. The link is to an NPR piece from Saturday. Janice would have been 60 years old this year. Too bad she isn't here to *take it*.... Nina Simone's daughter will be there to do a version of Janice's version of Summertime which was Janice's version of Nina Simone's Summertime. http://discover.npr.org/rundowns/rundown.jhtml?prgId=7&prgDate=current

Was sad to read Bob Hope died last night, at age 100. A talented gentleman with a great heart. Thanks Bob for the laughs, the entertainment and your generosity.

For Mari: The LA Times "Shooting for Philadelphia" (BTW, Calendar Live at the LA Times will soon go to a paying site. We are getting more and more of these now) Forget L.A. and N.Y. Movie and TV productions are increasingly finding a home in the city of brotherly love. -- By Lewis Beale July 27 2003 To find the set of Kevin Bacon's latest movie, "The Woodsman," drive past the mothballed World War II naval vessels, turn left on Kitty Hawk Avenue and stop at Building 11. Once inside the abandoned structure, pass through the room with the holding cells, go through the door marked "Department of Defense Police," and there you'll find Bacon, David Alan Grier and the rapper Eve rehearsing a scene for this drama about an ex-con pedophile trying to turn his life around. This is not exactly your typical Hollywood filming experience. "The Woodsman" is shooting scenes on the grounds of the now mostly deserted Philadelphia Navy Yard, and Building 11, which once housed Defense Department, FBI and naval police offices, is serving as a set. It isn't an optimal location � outside, jets landing at Philadelphia International Airport pass just a few hundred feet overhead � but hey, you make do when you're filming in a city without a conventional sound stage. Besides, the absence of a Los Angeles- or New York-like moviemaking infrastructure hasn't stopped Philly from enjoying a production boom the likes of which it has never seen before. In the past year alone, Philly's streets have played host to the CBS series "Hack," Kevin Smith's "Jersey Girl," "The Italian Job" and several indie productions. Lee Daniels, who is producing "The Woodsman" and also produced "Monster's Ball," plans to film "Shadow Boxer," starring Anjelica Huston and Wes Bentley, here this summer. The upcoming CBS series "Cold Case" will do some shooting in town. And M. Night Shyamalan, a resident who has filmed "The Sixth Sense," "Unbreakable" and "Signs" in the area, is in pre-production on "The Woods," a thriller starring Adrien Brody and Sigourney Weaver that will be made locally. The city will also be getting some of "National Treasure," a new Nicolas Cage vehicle. "Philadelphia has a vibe � it doesn't feel like Boston or New York," says Bacon, a Philly native. "There are a tremendous amount of looks you can get. You have a downtown that feels like an urban center, and you're not gonna find as many diverse working-class neighborhoods" elsewhere. And the country, he notes, is only 40 minutes away. This is all good news for a city whose cinematic image is still defined by the gritty, working-class feel of "Rocky" � which wasn't even shot here in its entirety. In fact, Jonathan Demme's 1992 "Philadelphia" was a studio-film rarity for being completely shot in this city of 1.5 million. Since then, Philly has played host to 50 feature films, 35 made entirely in the region, 20 of them studio productions, including Terry Gilliam's "Twelve Monkeys" and Demme's "Beloved." A mid-Atlantic Toronto? That may sound like chump change compared with such big production centers as New York or L.A., but in the world of second-tier locations, Philly is doing just fine. And if Sharon Pinkenson, executive director of the Greater Philadelphia Film Office, has her way, the city will overshadow Toronto as a cheap place to shoot with wildly varying locations, experienced crews and top-of-the-line production facilities. "All film commissions are responsible for marketing their location, and all of them on some level get involved in the details of coordinating production," says Pinkenson, a former costume designer. "But we're also like having a free producer. Like if you need an apartment for Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgwick, or crew housing, we have a person in the office dedicated just to housing. But we're also involved in the big picture � my goal is to turn Philadelphia and Pennsylvania into the next Toronto by creating government incentives that will lure production." As with many regional film commissions, Pinkenson's will go the extra yard to attract production. Like the time a producer demanded tee time at an exclusive golf club. Pinkenson arranged it. Or when the 1998 Denzel Washington film "Fallen" was looking for a specific location that could not be found in the Philadelphia area but did exist near Atlantic City, N.J. To avoid losing the entire shoot to Chicago, Pinkenson told the producers about it, and most of "Fallen" was made in Philly. But it's not just the aggressiveness of the film office that keeps luring production to Philly. Filmmakers unanimously agree that the unions are cooperative, and the city has an unexploited freshness. "Philly just looks different; it hasn't been overshot," says "Hack" producer Nan Bernstein. "There's a history there that's still apparent." "We have neighborhoods where you can turn the camera 360 degrees and get everything from pre-Revolutionary housing to Victorian right up to modern skyscrapers," Pinkenson says. Still, Philly has to deal with its nearness to New York � less than 100 miles away � which is both a blessing and a curse. A curse because Gotham is the 500-pound gorilla Philly will never overshadow. But, says Shyamalan, who processes his films in the Big Apple and uses some crew from there, "working out of Philly is in a way like working in a suburb of New York. You also get lower production costs in Philadelphia. And the people here aren't jaded; they're not shouting out the windows at you to 'turn off those lights!' " "The hospitality in the city is greater, because there's not as much production," adds Nick Stagliano, who recently shot the indie film "The 24th Day," with James Marsden, in the city. "The actors loved it. You get a little more of the homey, one-on-one treatment." More sound stages needed But there's also a downside that the city is trying hard to overcome. First and foremost is the lack of sound-stage space. In addition to the abandoned Navy Yard buildings, the city has converted the Civic Center, a cavernous, 1930s structure that used to hold everything from track meets to political conventions, into a production facility. Shyamalan shot parts of "The Sixth Sense" and "Unbreakable" here, and although adequate, it is no one's idea of a top-of-the-line production facility. "The city has a lot of small studios where they can shoot industrials or commercials," Stagliano says, "but if they get overbooked, you'd be hard-pressed to shoot a major feature there." Cameras have to be rented out of New York, and film processing is also done there. Local crews are experienced, but there isn't enough depth to sustain several productions at once. "If I'm shooting and there's another big film in town, the city will be tapped out" in terms of crew, Shyamalan says. Pinkenson says the city is committed to building a full-service studio complex, with a location to be chosen by year's end. She also notes that with NFL Films' new 200,000-square-foot production facility in nearby Mount Laurel, N.J., film companies can now process their dailies locally. Still, there's the fear that Philly, like Pittsburgh and Baltimore before it, is just the Filmland flavor of the month. "The industry has cycles," says "Hack's" Bernstein. "For a city like Philadelphia, it takes a balance of the unions staying levelheaded, and the city and producers keeping the talks flowing. The minute one of those things gets out of balance, people will say 'let's move.' " But the locals are nothing if not optimistic. Shyamalan, who says he shoots here because "it makes me comfortable to create a lifestyle where you're home for dinner," believes that once a sound-stage facility is built, production and crews will flock to the city. He feels Philly's relaxed lifestyle and cheaper costs � including housing prices that are among the lowest in the Northeast � will create an enticing atmosphere for film industry professionals to settle down in. The city's proximity to the Big Apple will only be a plus, he adds. "If we had a permanent structure for movies, people would move here," he says. "There's so much film production 90 miles up the road, and people are looking to make films cheaper on the East Coast. It's not like we want to go to Toronto. We could get the benefit of being so close to New York. I bet we could be this giant source of film production."

Miami Herald Posted on Mon, Jul. 28, 2003 French Actress Comatose After Beating Associated Press VILNIUS, Lithuania - French actress Marie Trintignant remained hospitalized in a coma Monday after allegedly being beaten at her hotel over the weekend. Police identified her boyfriend, French rock singer Bertrand Cantat, as a suspect. Trintignant, 41, was brought to the hospital around 8 a.m. local time Sunday from the Vilnius Domina Plaza Hotel where she was staying with her mother and Cantat, Dr. Robertas Kvascevicius, a physician treating her at Vilnius University Hospital, said Monday. Trintignant, a daughter of film star Jean-Louis Trintignant who starred in scores of French and several Hollywood films, had been in a coma for two hours before arriving at the hospital, the doctor said. She underwent surgery Sunday to ease pressure on her brain caused by cerebral hemorrhaging but remained in a coma Monday. "At this point, I cannot promise anything," he said when asked about her prognosis. Kvascevicius told France-Inter radio that Trintignant was being kept alive by artificial respiration. "In such cases, the chances for survival are minimal," he said. "The rate of mortality is 90 to 95 percent. There is little chance she will pull through it." .... Trintignant, born in Paris in 1962, made her first film appearances as a teenager in films produced by her mother, Nadine Trintignant. Though mostly typecast as neurotic, mentally unstable women, she has tried in recent years to do more comic acting. Alain Corneau's "Serie noire" launched her career, and at the age of 17 she performed in "La Terrasse" alongside her father. ... http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/6401939.htm

What a sad day....Bob Hope and now ODB's co-star in WOF: French actress Marie Trintignant remained hospitalized in a coma Monday after allegedly being beaten at her hotel over the weekend. Police identified her boyfriend, French rock singer Bertrand Cantat, as a suspect. Made my stomach turn when I read that....hope they put whoever did this to her away for the remainder of his (I'm assuming here...they did say BC was still only a suspect) life...even if she does survive.

On a happier note.... What's with Berger and Carrie. I had a boyfriend like Berger once; he dissected every word I said and turned it into an indictment. Hey, who wants to live with a guy that you have to edit everything before you say it. "Dump him, Carrie. Be yourself". I like that Harry and Charlotte are getting together. Bald guys are tender-hearted. They take a lotta crap in life and appreciate a lil'lovin. I predict at the end of the series, Carrie will stay single.Any bets?

Police identified her boyfriend, French rock singer Bertrand Cantat, as a suspect. And I just read other parts of story from AP: She was staying at the Vilnius Domina Plaza Hotel with her mother and Cantat, said hospital doctor Robertas Kvascevicius. Police spokeswoman Ruta Andriuskaite said Cantat is a suspect. She added the lead singer with French band Noir Desir, had been admitted to the same hospital on Sunday after drinking "dangerously high" amounts of alcohol. Cantat was not arrested, though police plan to question him at the hotel today, Andriuskaite said. She said it could take days or weeks before authorities decide whether to formally charge him. Police usually bar suspects from leaving the country during investigations. ~~~~~~ Disgusting, maybe by then, they'll have a charge: aggravated assault or merely murder. :-( (Evelyn) What's with Berger and Carrie..."Dump him, Carrie. Be yourself". Didn't you read the Post-It? Carrie was dumped already. He's gone. He couldn't handle being with a successful woman when his own career had taken a downturn. An ego thing. Major brusing of his self-image. It's too bad; I think Berger was a cutie. But that paper covers rock was a good one.

(Karen) I think Berger was a cutie I did, too. I thought he was the only one who really fit in with her friends. He really got into the friends stories of dating or whatever they were talking about, and had something intelligent and useful to offer. He was pretty witty, too. But, aside from the emotional/ego issues, and being witty, he was also borderline dull, too. Not as bad as Aidan, but he could be pretty flat. I liked that his demeanor could be dry, but it was a bit too dry for me, and I think Carrie, too. She was having to drag him a bit through life (ok, it was *her* life...always stuff she wanted to do). That paper covers rock was pretty funny. Thought that was so tacky of him though. Actually felt really bad for her. BTW, who wears a bra to bed under a nightdress? You can't tell me that's a new fad. ;-)

Thanks for all the good and not so good news everyone. Will miss Bob Hope dreadfully. One of my life-long favorites. Also think they have yet to top him as Oscar host. Remember watching him on that as a child and laughing so much. Also all the war tours. Just loved him. Thanks for the memories and years of laughter Bob. They will remain forever.

(Karen)...all those who took umbrage over the savaging of HS, just wait for this Friday, when they let loose on Gigli (Bee Dee)Yeah sure, but that's probably not gonna stop them at the BO is it? . LOL.Won't stop me. I like J. Lo and Ben:-D Anybody see their hour-long interview a few weeks ago ? Cute. She's an interviewer's dream.

(Evelyn) LOL.Won't stop me. I like J. Lo and Ben:-D Oh Evelyn... please, say it ain't so!!!!! (Las Vegas is already taking odds that the divorce will precede the marriage!)

[Shoshana] Are you hitting the "submit" button after you read a topic? This is the second nonmessage you've posted?

(Laura)(Las Vegas is already taking odds that the divorce will precede the marriage!) Love it! How do I get in on the betting?

Great analysis of the latest Project Greenlight, a riveting train wreck: http://www.moviecitynews.com/columnists/dretzka/030729.htm

(Laura)Oh Evelyn... please, say it ain't so!!!!! I don't care about private lives. Hey, few of them are up for canonization;-)

(Evelyn)I don't care about private lives. Hey, few of them are up for canonization;-) So you're saying you like their acting?:-)

(Karen) Great analysis of the latest Project Greenlight, a riveting train wreck: Holy cow, isn't it?!!!! :-P That Efraim (sp?) will never work as a director again I wouldn't think. Who the hell would want to deal with him? Though "they" tend to forget that stuff if the movie does well. Thanks for the link. I'll have to check it out in a bit. (Karen) just wait for this Friday, when they let loose on Gigli What horrible buzz for months and months on this. Apparently Jersey Girl isn't spoken of that highly either except for the kid. Shame, I *love* Kevin Smith's stuff. I saw HBO's (or whoever's) behind the scenes show with Gigli, and have to say it wasn't getting me too excited to see it. Maybe one of those I have to see all at once to make a better impression, like Down with Love, which I didn't really want to see just off the ads, but loved as a whole.

Evelyn)I don't care about private lives. Hey, few of them are up for canonization;-) (Bee Dee)So you're saying you like their acting?:-) Actually, ....yes.They're both good entertainers...or at least eye candy. Like some of YKW 's projects;-))))

I like this! The NY Times: July 30, 2003 Baryshnikov Will Play Heartthrob in 'Sex and the City' By BILL CARTER For better or worse, the tumultuous love life of Carrie Bradshaw, the signature single woman of HBO's hit comedy "Sex and the City," is coming to an end this season. Sarah Jessica Parker, the star who plays Carrie, says the plan has always been to go out with a romance bigger than Big. "We had to make Big look like a high school sweetheart," Ms. Parker said, referring to Mr. Big, the character played by Chris Noth who has been a looming romantic presence in Carrie's life throughout the series, which began in 1998. Whether the choice will ultimately prove to be Carrie's Mr. Right, no one is saying. But his star power is undeniable. After what Ms. Parker called "a long courtship," she was able to persuade Mikhail Baryshnikov, perhaps the most famous dancer in the world, to join the show as the man to lift Carrie off her feet. "I seem to have a tendency to do things that people think I shouldn't do," Mr. Baryshnikov said in a telephone interview after a rehearsal with Ms. Parker. He added, in a reference to the show's celebrated sexual adventurousness, "I think it's about time to do something my children can't watch." The concluding story line calls for Carrie to meet and fall for a man of overpowering presence, an artist of international reputation. "We thought he might be European," Ms. Parker said. Mr. Baryshnikov, who lives in New York, was born in Latvia to Russian parents. "He has such presence that Carrie gets bigger, too," Ms. Parker said. "The scale changes her." She was speaking by telephone from location shooting for "Sex and the City" in Manhattan. The show's cast is winding up the 11th and 12th episodes in what is to be a 20-episode final season. Ms. Parker, who is also an executive producer on the series, said she had riffled through the names of various movie stars, trying to cast the part. None really seemed to measure up to the outsize expectations for a character who would, as Ms. Parker put it, "reveal to Carrie that there's a whole other life out there." Then one morning in April, in the shower ("As a new mother it's the only place it ever really gets quiet in my head," she said), an idea flashed: Mikhail Baryshnikov. European. An international artist of enormous reputation. But would he even consider an offer to play a love interest on a television comedy? Weeks later, after several phone calls and a few preliminary meetings, Ms. Parker had her answer. Misha, as she already calls him, was in. Mr. Baryshnikov, who is more than a decade removed from a brief career acting in films, has signed on to play Alexander Petrovsky, an artist "of extreme importance," as Ms. Parker described him, for the final eight episodes of a show that has become a phenomenon, the most popular comedy in the history of cable television. Not with Mr. Baryshnikov, however. When Ms. Parker called, he confessed, he had never seen the show, though of course as a New Yorker he had heard of it. So Ms. Parker sent over a batch of episodes on DVD. He met with Ms. Parker and the show's chief creative talents, Michael Patrick King and John Melfi, also executive producers. Mr. Baryshnikov also spoke several times with Ms. Parker by phone, offering suggestions on what sort of character his artist might be. "I just tossed a few ideas around, because that's how they usually work, I understand," he said. He acknowledged, "I haven't worked in front of the camera in many years." But he was intrigued by the idea. "It sounded like fun," he said. The plan for the final year's production of "Sex and the City" has been to divide the season, working first on 12 episodes, to be seen on HBO this summer and early fall, while saving the final 8 for a run that will begin in January. The cast will finish filming the first batch in early August and then take a six-week break before coming back in October to shoot the last episodes. Mr. Baryshnikov's character will be introduced fleetingly in the episodes being finished in the next week or so. "I'm a little bit of a teaser," he said. "That's a television term. They have codes for all these subcultures." Ms. Parker said she could not go too far in describing where the romance with Mr. Barysnikov's character was headed. "I have to keep the secrets," she said. "But this is a really important story line. This is not a short tenure." A romantic connection involving a ballet dancer seems to mirror the life of Candace Bushnell, the real-life model for Carrie Bradshaw. Ms. Bushnell married a ballet dancer, Charles Askegard, last year. Ms. Parker said no such association with that event was intended. "Besides, Carrie has moved pretty far away from Candace by now," she said. And as Mr. Baryshnikov pointed out: "I'm not playing a dancer. I'm a Russian artist who's big in Europe and also here. We have a culture clash, an experience clash and an age clash." He was the only one who mentioned age. Mr. Baryshnikov is 55; Ms. Parker, 38. But she said the discrepancy was of no consequence to her. "He is so lovely and so much fun," Ms. Parker said. "He brings passion and star quality and character and myth and legend and skill and talent. I'm over the moon about this."

So do I.

A romantic connection involving a ballet dancer seems to mirror the life of Candace Bushnell, the real-life model for Carrie Bradshaw. Ms. Bushnell married a ballet dancer, Charles Askegard, last year. Ms. Parker said no such association with that event was intended. Um, yeah....sure. Even before I got to this part, I got the connection. I love Barishnikov, though. Especially when he was doing his White Oak Dance Project stuff with Mark Morris. Thanks, Murph. Seems they will be going through quite a Roladex of Hollywood/NY star hunks.

Good choice. S&TC needs a lift. MI5 is the best thing on right now, IMO. BTW where is Keen Eddie this week?

(Evelyn) BTW where is Keen Eddie this week? MIA? TV Guide had an excerpt of the above, but then this: Baryshnikov points out that he's "not playing a dancer. I'm a Russian artist who's big in Europe and also here. We have a culture clash, an experience clash and an age clash." All of which is followed by some hot, sweaty sex. http://www.tvguide.com/newsgossip/inthenews/

(Murph's article)You also get lower production costs in Philadelphia. And the people here aren't jaded; they're not shouting out the windows at you to 'turn off those lights!' " Right, in Philly, we'd say "Yo, turn off those effin' lights!" ;-) Loved this article, Mary. *Everybody* here knows someone who has a cousin whose son's friend's brother-in-law was an extra in "Signs." The son of one of my work colleagues had a walk-on part in Hack last season. And if you saw The Italian Job, the race down Market Street in the Mini-Coopers was filmed right outside my office. And speaking of Bennifer . . .I think I mentioned that they filmed one of the Jersey Girl scenes right down the block from where I work. Ben was here, and was *very* nice to all the fans. Like Evelyn, I also like Ben and Jen. I'm hard-pressed to think of something either of them was bad in.

Sorry, I don't like the Baryshnikov angle. He's too old for her. Give me the young, virile, guys. If the situation were reversed, they wouldn't be pairing a mid-thirties actor with an actress 20 years his senior. Anybody watch Boy Meets Boy last night? Am loving the summer shows; Queer Eye For The Straight Guy is another goodie--very funny. Also hooked on Keen Eddie, when I can find it.:-( "So how do you like me now?"

(Mari) Bennifer LOL. (Mari) I'm hard-pressed to think of something either of them was bad in. Maybe not bad but not quite up to par: Dogma, Forces of Nature, Bounce, SIL, the Wedding Planner. They're talented but a bit overrated, imo. (Mari) Anybody watch Boy Meets Boy last night? Am loving the summer shows; Queer Eye For The Straight Guy is another goodie--very funny. Also hooked on Keen Eddie, when I can find it.:-( Missed BMB, love QEFTSG, getting hooked on KE, saw it on Fox last Thursday. "So how do you like me now?" Who are you, Toby Keith? ;-)

(Mari)Anybody watch Boy Meets Boy last night? Am loving the summer shows; Queer Eye For The Straight Guy is another goodie-- LOL! Saw the 10:00pm Queer Eye after the DH was asleep on the couch;-) what a riot. Saw last part of the 8:00 program and loved the comments the *guys* had about the girlfriend.

(Beedee) Saw last part of the 8:00 program and loved the comments the *guys* had about the girlfriend. Sounds like you watched the third episode (blonde, trampy girlfriend) because that was the only good thing about that one IMO. However, last night's (the proposal one) was such a hoot. Catch it on one of Bravo's many replays. Am not watching BMB; am drawing the line there. Not interested. (and Mari knows that's saying a lot for me) ;-))))))

(Beedee) Saw last part of the 8:00 program and loved the comments the *guys* had about the girlfriend. (Karen) Sounds like you watched the third episode (blonde, trampy girlfriend) because that was the only good thing about that one IMO. Loved the Fab5 comments. Like them, I was wondering why he put up with her. I thought maybe he'd change his mind and wouldn't ask her to move in. Love, ain't it grand ;-)

According to the Keen Eddie Forum Fox has cancelled the show for now. The slugs. http://forums.prospero.com/foxkeddie/messages/?msg=540.1

Keep reading...from the next message: Fox hasn't canceled Keen Eddie -- yet. They're just pre-empting it for a few weeks. The next new episode will be on Aug. 28th. Unless you live in Canada and get CHCH from Hamilton in which case the next new episode will be on at 12 am July 31st.

(Karen)Sounds like you watched the third episode (blonde, trampy girlfriend) because that was the only good thing about that one IMO. However, last night's (the proposal one) was such a hoot. Catch it on one of Bravo's many replays. Yes, that was it! I just saw the last 15 min. or so by chance and had to LOL. It was enough to get me to watch the *proposal* one later and I fell in love with the straight guy. He was so sweet! Loved when he started to mist up at the lovely job the guys had done outside in the *Casbah*.

(Karen)Fox hasn't canceled Keen Eddie -- yet. Bite your tongue (fingers?) on that "yet," Karen! I'd love to see this one stay. Multi-week pre-emting is rarely a good sign, though.

(Mari) Anybody watch Boy Meets Boy last night? Am loving the summer shows; Queer Eye For The Straight Guy is another goodie-- I am hooked on QEFTSG! But seeing them late as I don't have Bravo and am using the brother's TeVo to catch up. Heard that it was going to be showing on NBC after 'Will and Grace'. Carson (the fashion savant) just makes me laugh, he's so freakin' funny! Am also behind on 'Sex and the City' (watch the DVDs so everyone is a season ahead of me...time I entered the modern world and got that digital cable, I guess).

I *love* QEFTSG!! My hairdresser the other day told me Kyan (grooming) worked in their salon for a bit. (Karen) the third episode (blonde, trampy girlfriend) because that was the only good thing about that one IMO. (Sonia) Loved the Fab5 comments. Like them, I was wondering why he put up with her. I thought maybe he'd change his mind and wouldn't ask her to move in. He was such a sweet guy. He needed her to lead him by the nose, though. He seems basically kinda clueless about life. I actually was wondering for 2 seconds why she stayed with him, but she liked that control I'm sure. Very funny comments from the guys on her. Thought the first episode was the best. (Tress) Heard that it was going to be showing on NBC after 'Will and Grace' Shame you didn't get to see the hour version of that one. They cut out a lot and it lost a little something like that. Forces of Nature, Bounce, the Wedding Planner They were so-so to dull in these to me. Daredevil, too. Loved him in Dogma and Chasing Amy. And her in Out of Sight and MIM. I like them both anyway, but don't think they warrant such attention. There are *other* more worthy people who deserve more attention....for talent anyway. (Mari) Sorry, I don't like the Baryshnikov angle. He's too old for her You don't like Big, either, I take it. Watching this week, my friend and I wanted to see them together again, though he's really not good for her. Plays with her mind and heart too much.

Ben Affleck is only good in Kevin Smith movies. Jennifer Lopez is only good in Selena. End of story... most people (i.e., guys just watch her for her @$$ anyway!) they don't care what she has in her brain.

(Bee Dee)So you're saying you like their acting?:-) (Evelyn)Actually, ....yes.They're both good entertainers...or at least eye candy. Personally, I'd rather watch some dead people. ;-)

Thanks, Murph, for the interesting article! But Carrie's boyfriends now remind me of drive thru at MacDonalds: Big, Burger, and sexy see-through buns. ;-) I like Aidan the best.

(Sonia)Who are you, Toby Keith? ;-) Who dat? Is he one of them thar country singer fellers? Anyway, I was going for Keen Eddie's signature line, but I think I screwed it up. "How do you like me so far?" Is that it? They're talented but a bit overrated, imo. I *am* annoyed at their overexposure in the media. (Dorine)Loved him in Dogma and Chasing Amy. And her in Out of Sight and MIM. Same here. He was also good in Changing Lanes and in Boiler Room. I liked her in Angel Eyes, too. They are not "great" actors by any stretch, but they are entertaining and charismatic. And they have chutzpah--they know their film is gonna get raked over the coals but they're still out there, front and center. No hiding behind, say, a family event.;-);-) I admire their cojones. (Tress)I am hooked on QEFTSG!. . . Carson (the fashion savant) just makes me laugh, he's so freakin' funny! Isn't he a riot? The guy is a one-man quote machine. "There's so much to do here, I need a Ritalin Smoothie to help me focus." LOL! And how about when he used tongs to go through the one guy's closet? But none of it is done out of meanness, and they do a really great job. The makeover on the first guy (Butch the artist) was amazing. I also like the Food & Wine guy, Tom I think, because he has great tips, like keeping only 3 numbers in mind when cooking fish: 10 oz, 6 minutes, 400 degrees. Great stuff! (Dorine)You don't like Big, either, I take it. Actually, I do like Big, but agree with you that he's not for her. Too much water under the bridge there. And a man who cheated on his wife may very likely cheat on you too. And the age gap is much less than with Misha.

Anybody watch Boy Meets Boy last night? Am loving the summer shows; Queer Eye For The Straight Guy is another goodie--very funny. ****************** I LOVE this show! (QEFTSG) I think mostly because everyone is really kind to each other. It is a sweet show. Somehow they have managed to find three really nice, kind of innocent, straight guys to work on. And the five do a good job. They also seem genuinely taken with their subjects - unlike the "What Not To Wear," two, which uses tough love to get their point across. (With that really skanky blonde from Florida a few months ago they needed to!) (BTW -- The guy has cut his hair!) Boy Meets Boy I will reserve judgement for a bit - too much like those other "a bunch of gals and guys in a hot tub" type of show - except here they are all guys. The hunk has to think up some tougher questions!

(Lora)I like Aidan the best. Ditto. I can hear the 'chorus of dissension' now....but I don't care; a little flab is ok with me;-) (mari)And a man who cheated on his wife may very likely cheat on you too. LOL. That's my prediction about Mr & Mrs. Matthew Field's future in the Garden of Eden;-) Jen and Ben rock!

(Evelyn)but I don't care; a little flab is ok with me;-) I agree. Much more normal, sweet, caring, and helpful in the kitchen (and with fixing things, i.e. uses tools well ;-)). (me)and sexy see-through buns. ;-) The buns refer to many-years-of-ballet Misha. Guess I didn't set my joke up very well ;-/

(Lora)I like Aidan the best. (Evelyn) Ditto. I can hear the 'chorus of dissension' now....but I don't care; a little flab is ok with me;-) I didn't mind a little flab, though he looked tres fab when he slimmed down and got some definition. He was such an incredibly sweet guy and very good to her, but dull. I can completely see and am empathetic as to why they didn't work out. Certain aspects of Aidan in that relationship hit a bit close. (Mari) And how about when he used tongs to go through the one guy's closet ROTF! Love Thom, too. He's so low key about his sarcasm in dissing the decor.

Seems I was a bit more emphatic than I planned. :-)

I thought Keen Eddie was moving to Thursdays at 8. Now August 28...bollocks! Definitely not a good sign. (Murph)Somehow they have managed to find three really nice, kind of innocent, straight guys to work on. And the five do a good job. Yes, they have. The guys have really been sweet, but I'm not impressed with any of their girlfriends. None of them have seemed really sincere to me.

(Lora)The buns refer to many-years-of-ballet Misha. Guess I didn't set my joke up very well ;-/ Oh, I got it! LOL! Love those ballet buns! And thighs and ........ I think he's hot! (mari)And a man who cheated on his wife may very likely cheat on you too. (Evelyn)Jen and Ben rock! Yeah, but for how long? A woman who dumps husbands is likely to dump....

(Lora)The buns refer to many-years-of-ballet Misha. Guess I didn't set my joke up very well ;-/ Strange, in all my years of watching him, buns don't come to mind first. ;-)))) (Mari)And how about when he used tongs to go through the one guy's closet? Good thing he puts on latex gloves when he goes through the dirty undies. Seems to be one of his favorite activities. Now can you say Ralph Lauren properly? Everybody repeat after me. ;-D The only Fab5 guy they should ditch is Jai. What does he do? Absolutely nothing but prance around. In last night's show, his only contribution was how to say 'I love you' in Armenian. Preferred the substitute Culture Guru who bought all the CDs and books.

(Karen) Now can you say Ralph Lauren properly? Everybody repeat after me. ;-D Couture du jour ;-)

(Karen) The only Fab5 guy they should ditch is Jai. What does he do? Absolutely nothing but prance around. Have to admit I have a soft spot for him. Saw him in an awesome off-Bdwy play a few months ago and he was really fantastic. Then ran into him one night heading for the same subway. He did the help Butch/Brian learn to work the room at the gallery opening. I did like the books/CD's idea from the other guy, too, though. I wonder how much discussion they have with the transformees before they film. Just enough to get a flavor of the person or more specific, like music, decor tastes, etc? Can't be cheap for this changeover, between getting new furniture, paint, etc and putting them up somewhere.

(Dorine) He did the help Butch/Brian learn to work the room at the gallery opening. Yeah, that was impressive helping him mingle with his own friends. *snort*

Seems there is significant concern that star power isn't going to negate the bad publicity: http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/cl-et-horn30jul30,0,4578052.story?coll=cl-movies-features *Also a mention of the postponement of Kevin Smith's Jersey Girl and the rationale.

"Despite the bad early buzz, Affleck and Lopez both went to bat for the film, playing off their celebrity sizzle. "They were out there," Revolution partner Tom Sherak says of the two actors. "They cared. They were involved. They were both busy making other movies, and they still did everything and anything we asked them to do." Thanks Karen. You gotta hand it to them, they're out there pitching.Why publicists love them. They care, even if the film is a dog. Not walking away and going off to...Vancouver;-) (Where it was filmed.) Look how much publicity Ben & Gwynnie did for SIL. You think that movie with an all Brit cast about Shakespeare, fergodsake, would have made it without them? You think people went to see Geoffrey Rush?

You think people went to see Geoffrey Rush? I did go to see Geoffrey Rush and that other chap in the fancy breeches. Certainly not Ben Affleck ;-)

LOL. Allison that's a given around here..we all went to see the guy with the goatee;-) But I'm talking about the great unwashed out there who don't know these guys. Hey , I bet some people in the UK even went to see Imelda Staunton and the two minutes of Judi Dench.

(Mari) Anybody watch Boy Meets Boy last night? Am loving the summer shows; Queer Eye For The Straight Guy is another goodie--very funny. Also hooked on Keen Eddie, when I can find it.:-( "So how do you like me now?" Yes, I saw Boy Meets Boy. Haven't come to a conclusion yet as it seems mean that there are straights in the pack. Did anyone see Katy's interview with the lead on Monday or Tuesday this week? He's very intelligent, works in a law office. Said he wouldn't have done the show if he hadn't the support of his boss and coworkers, his family was not as pleased that he chose to do the show. When he found out there were straight guys in it he told producers he was not happy and thought of quitting but they convinced him that the point they wanted to make to the public was positive promoting the fact that people should be respected no matter what their prefrences and to show that people are the same no matter what, so he agreed to continue. Kathy asked him if he thought this show would open doors for him and he said what kind? He couldn't wait to get back to his job, and that was about it. I adore QEFTSG and haven't missed an episode. The Fab 5 are great. Its a good show and they are talented as well as seem to be very nice people, which attracts me. Loved this weeks proposal, but agree, didn't care for the blonde on the live-in episode. IMO he would have been better off if she refused him, but love is blind. She was too nasty and controlling to me. I think he was too passive for her. Love the guys and the comments they make when they watch their "make-over" are terrific. Heard NBC did a 30 minute episode of it and plan to do another, but think it should definitely be an hour. If they take it over, I hope they don't ruin it. It's a hit as it is.

(Pam)Heard NBC did a 30 minute episode of it and plan to do another, but think it should definitely be an hour. If they take it over, I hope they don't ruin it. It's a hit as it is. My synopsis of a 5 minute piece I heard on NPR last Thursday: NBC is the parent company of Bravo (thus explaining its ability to "borrow" such a new show). The NPR critic lauded QEFTSG in its hour form, but thought the half hour version lacked all of the qualities that make the show so endearing, though the airing on a major network certainly help gain more viewers. He also commented, in his position of authority (;-P), that he considered it the best reality show of several seasons running. BTW, does anyone know the background of the name Kyan?

(Shoshana)He also commented, in his position of authority (;-P), that he considered it the best reality show of several seasons running. Well it's the only one I can stand to watch. BTW, does anyone know the background of the name Kyan? Sounds like a play on the spice? *Stage(y)* name?;-) http://www.bravotv.com/Queer_Eye_for_the_Straight_Guy/

(Shoshana) he considered it the best reality show of several seasons running. (Beedee) Well it's the only one I can stand to watch. While oddly enough I don't watch it regularly, I also really like The Amazing Race. I'd love to do that show....travel the globe, figure out puzzles, not eat nasty stuff or starve (hopefully). I'm a damn good map reader. My friend said she'd do it with me. We'd make a really good team.

Sad news... Actress dies after alleged beating Friday, August 1, 2003 Posted: 6:11 AM EDT (1011 GMT) Trintignant was in Lithuania filming -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Story Tools -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PARIS, France (AP) -- French actress Marie Trintignant has died of cerebral edema at the age of 41, according to a physician at the hospital where she died. Trintignant, who had been kept alive for several days on an artificial respirator, died at the Hartmann Clinic in suburban Neuilly at 10:20 a.m., according to neurosurgeon Stephane Delajoux. The actress, who hailed from one of French cinema's best-known film families and enjoyed a successful movie and stage career of her own, was flown to Paris on Thursday from Lithuania, where she had been filming a television movie with her mother, director Nadine Trintignant. Trintignant's boyfriend, French rock singer Bertrand Cantat, is in police custody in Lithuania and is the prime suspect in her death. A Lithuanian judge on Thursday ordered his detention through Aug. 14.

Sorry to hear that. On a lighter note: I watched Queer Eye last night on the re-run. LOL. why didn't you tell me it was a make-over show. (My fault: you know I don't read long posts!) *smacking head*I was waiting for a plot and episodic story line.LOL Cute show esp. the blond guy. Terrific one-liners through-out. But wondered if the gay community would heave an out-cry for the term "Queer". Wouldn't they consider it pejorative?

(Evelyn)Wouldn't they consider it pejorative? Nope, they now *own* it! The chant: We're Queer and we're here! The radio program *Queer Nation*, etc.

***************************************************** LONDON THEATRE LIVE UPDATE REPORT ***************************************************** Friday 1 Aug 2003 The Prince's Trust's "SHAKESPEARE GALA EVENING" will be at the Globe theatre on 1 Sep 03, in the presence of HRH, The Prince of Wales. The Prince's Trust was founded in 1976 by HRH, The Prince of Wales to help young people fulfil their potential. This special gala evening at the Globe is a celebration of the commitment shared by The Prince's Trust and Shakespeare's Globe to enable more disadvantaged young people to access the arts. Some of the world's finest actors and musicians will perform selected scenes from Shakespeare's plays on the Globe stage. Including JOSEPH FIENNES, GWYNETH PALTROW, DIANA RIGG, JULIAN GLOVER, JANE LAPOTAIRE, PAUL SCHOFIELD, DESMOND BARRIT, SANJEEV BHASKAR, HELEN LEDERER, MICHAEL PENNINGTON. The English Chamber Orchestra will provide the music. A champagne reception will precede and a magnificent banquet will follow, in the UnderGlobe beneath the Theatre. Tickets are priced in UK Pounds as follows: 300 - Full champagne reception, performance and dinner in UnderGlobe 150 - Full champagne reception and performance 50 - Seated ticket for performance only 20 - Standing ticket for performance only Tel: Globe Box Office 020 7401 9199

I know, I know "Gigli" got lousy reviews. LOL Even my n'spaper gave it one star. ("A mess...") And they like everything . Here's the NY Times review which is funny. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/01/movies/01GIGL.html Makes it sound on a par with "Playmaker";-)

I wanted to pop in with information on the August birthdays: Maria - 8/15 Murph - 8/28 E-mail me your birthday if you'd like to be added to the list. I have 27 names now. I'll wait a week to add any additional names that come in, and after that the list will be available on request (via e-mail).

Evelyn, the Boston Globe didn't even give it ANY stars. What's worse than bad? Boston Herald is speculating that Bennifer are splitsville...

(Shoshana) NBC is the parent company of Bravo... Well thank you. That explains alot, and also explains why the 4th of July with the Boston Pops was such a train wreck. My family has watched that show for years on Bravo where they air the entire thing. NBC only gave it an hour cutting out some of our favorite parts which occur in the first hour, and were sorely missed. I hope they let it go back to Bravo next year. (Laura) Boston Herald is speculating that Bennifer are splitsville... So do the Las Vegas betters. Apparently they have a wedding date bet going with 50% odds that "the divorce will come before the wedding."

..Apparently they have a wedding date bet going with 50% odds that "the divorce will come before the wedding." Isn't it Mr Bennett who says...."What do we live for....";-).

(Evelyn)I know, I know "Gigli" got lousy reviews. LOL Even my n'spaper gave it one star. ("A mess...") And they like everything . (Laura)...the Boston Globe didn't even give it ANY stars. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, my local paper, gave the movie a grade of F, which I find rather impressive. You generally only see a few Fs a year. The summary comment was "So bad it verges on the legendary." The review was next to a list of the worst 12 films of the last 25 years ("Hollywood's House of Poo").

Sad news... Actress dies after alleged beating Sad indeed. Made me sick to read about her beating. That such things happen at all is revolting. My heart goes out to her family and friends.

(Sonia)That such things happen at all is revolting.... Sad indeed.

Did anyone see "Unconditional Love" on Starz last night? Stars Kathy Bates and RE. No Oscar contender but enjoyable.

Report on "Gigli" Pure eyecandy for BA and JL fans. And I found the chemistry pretty good despite what the critics said. As the sayings go: "It had its moments" "Not the worst film I've ever seen.....this year;-D Get the drift? LOL. I stayed for the credits..."surely MB must have had a finger in this...;-)"

(Pam) No Oscar contender but enjoyable. Another unreleasable film--straight to cable. (Evelyn) Pure eyecandy for BA and JL fans. And I found the chemistry pretty good despite what the critics said. Chemistry between the lesbian character JL plays and Affleck's? Why should there be any?

And I found the chemistry pretty good despite what the critics said. Chemistry between the lesbian character JL plays and Affleck's? Why should there be any? A girl can change her mind ..can't she? Gigli's mom:"Life isn't all black and white". [see what I mean about the dialogue...gag, gag.] A pretty steamy sex scene (wan't R-rated for nothin')... I won't give you the spoiler ending. You'll just have to see for yourself;-D

(Karen) Chemistry between the lesbian character JL plays and Affleck's? Why should there be any? Was it Roeper or Ebert that said that? ;-) Sounds like Roeper. Or was it on that other show "Hot Ticket" with those annoying critics that said that. Though the Hot Ticket people liked WAGW. (Pam)... "Unconditional Love" No Oscar contender but enjoyable. (Karen) Another unreleasable film--straight to cable. Best thing I can say about it is I thought Rupe looked really v. good. Pre-surgery. Always thought he was v. attractive. Why did he go and screw himself up like that? And quite a cast (of characters and actors). What did they see in that script? Had it's moments though. (Evelyn) I stayed for the credits..."surely MB must have had a finger in this...;-)" LOL!

Re: Gigli....from the weekend box office report By ANTHONY BREZNICAN, AP Entertainment Writer " The Ben Affleck (news)-Jennifer Lopez (news) movie "Gigli" debuted dismally following weeks of toxic buzz and near-unanimous critical revulsion. The comedy about a gangster who falls in love with a lesbian rival during a kidnapping earned $3.8 million. "This is not a shock," said Tom Sherak, a partner in Revolution Studios, which produced "Gigli" for Sony Pictures Entertainment. He said constant gossip and tabloid and TV coverage of Affleck and Lopez's real-life romance may have created a backlash against the picture. "I've seen a lot worse movies," Sherak said. "Hey, is it the best movie ever made? Ehh, I don't think so. ... Other movies have gotten ravaged by critics and have opened up at least OK. It was more than that," he said. Although Affleck and Lopez already have completed another movie together � writer-director Kevin Smith (news)'s "Jersey Girl" � the foul reception of "Gigli" may end the couple's working relationship. "They'll continue to be big stars, and chances are they will not work together again � and they shouldn't, by the way," Sherak said. "You move on. Look, the picture cost $54 million. So everyone is going to get hurt a bit." Oh my, that's pretty harsh when your own studio says that about you *publicly*.

Did anyone see 60 Minutes this evening? The piece about how the master painters may have used concave mirrors to create their life-like paintings blew me away. (This segment was first aired in December, so if this was posted before, please accept my aplogies.) Was It Done With Mirrors? August 3, 2003 Did Leonardo Da Vinci use mirrors to paint the Mona Lisa? (Photo: CBS) �I'm suggesting that artists saw these projections. They're very simple to make, and when you make them, they're very beautiful and exciting.� artist David Hockney When you consider works of genius - the plays of William Shakespeare, the symphonies of Mozart, the paintings of Leonardo de Vinci - there's always a sense of "How could an ordinary mortal create something of such incredible beauty and complexity?" We can't shed any light on how Shakespeare wrote his plays or Mozart composed his music. But, as 60 Minutes first reported last December, there is a new theory that may explain how Leonardo and the other Old Masters created their masterpieces. Did they have help? Yes. Was it magic? No. But it wouldn't be entirely wrong to say they did it with mirrors. Correspondent Lesley Stahl reports. You can't stand in front of the paintings of the "Old Masters" and not wonder, "How did Frans Hals make that lace seem so real? How did van Eyck make his armor so gleamingly metallic? How did Caravaggio make his faces so expressive and lifelike?" The theory is they had help with lenses or concave mirrors. If someone stands outside bathed in light, an image can be projected inside onto a wall, upside down. That projected image can then be copied. David Hockney, one of our best-known artists, believes that the Old Masters used the early technology of optics and kept it secret. �I'm suggesting that artists saw these projections," he says. "They're very simple to make, and when you make them, they're very beautiful and exciting.� When set up carefully in a studio, the projection is bright and clear. To demonstrate how Caravaggio might have painted his picture of Bacchus, Hockney, in a film he made for the BBC, arranged a model and projected his image into a dark room - what artists call a camera obscura. The image was cast directly onto his canvas, and he traced it. It was so much easier than painting from life. Once the artists saw these flattened-out two-dimensional projections, says Hockney, they couldn't resist. �It's hard to believe that in the 15th century they would say, 'What an amusing novelty, how interesting ... but let's not use that,�� he says. Hockney comes at this with a practiced eye. Over the last four decades, he's established himself as one of the leading contemporary artists with his drawings, his set designs, his photo collages and of course, his paintings. But the man who made icons out of Hollywood swimming pools never imagined that he'd be jumping into his own pool of controversy with his new take on the Old Masters. Once Hockney figured out how the pictures were made, he set out to discover where and when the use of optics began. In his studio in Los Angeles, he built his great wall of hundreds of paintings spanning hundreds of years. �We did come to about 1420, and realized something happens,� he says. What happens is a sudden appearance of realism. Before 1420, faces were idealized; immediately after, they were true to life. Before, garments were flat and formless. After, they were vivid and photographic. Hockney says it started in Bruges, Belgium, one of Europe's great 15th century commercial centers, where that optical look, a photographic look, first appeared in the works of Flemish masters like Jan van Eyck. �[He was] a painter who knew about optical projections and had looked at them,� says Hockney. �One thing the mirror projections do is project surfaces quite amazingly, especially shiny surfaces. And there's lots of shiny surfaces.� What's so revolutionary about what he is saying? The history of art - the history of the Renaissance - is the history of optics. Needless to say, Hockney and his book about this, called "Secret Knowledge," have rocked the art world, where most art historians say it's bunk. �All these art historians, not one of them ever took the trouble to look through a camera obscura to see what it was like,� says Hockney. They don't like the idea that, as Hockney suggests, the Old Masters traced their creations. There is an implication of cheating in that. But Hockney says they weren�t cheaters, but great innovators: "Not only did they have skills you think you know, they had marvelous skills about optical things as well." Hockney points to van Eyck's "Arnolfini Wedding." He used to wonder how did the painter paint the chandelier in the picture: �That chandelier is in perfect perspective. So how was it drawn?� He now believes it was created with a concave mirror, and a pencil. Walter Liedtke, curator of European paintings at New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art, disagrees with Hockney's contention that the Renaissance started in Bruges and Florence because of optics. �Isn't there something about those cultures, the fact that they're predominantly urban, mercantile, sophisticated, with a strong middle class,� says Liedtke. Hockney, however, has debated the cultural explanation with Liedtke and other art historians. Critics point out that there's little mention of optics or tracing in the historical record, nothing in documents or diaries. �Yes, but the historical record has no mention of how they painted the pictures either,� says Hockney in response. �The only people who wrote in diaries were highly educated.� Even today, he says, the artists wouldn�t tell: �They're very secretive. Remember, they're competing in business as well.� It was also the time of the Inquisition, when mirrors and lenses were associated with witchcraft. �When Caravaggio is painting in Rome, around the corner in the square, they're burning Claudio Bruni for looking through lenses,� says Hockney. Hockney is amazed that art historians don't see what he thinks is obvious - the optical evidence right there in the works of such formidable artists as Holbein, Velazquez, and even Leonardo de Vinci. �Leonardo describes the camera obscura, meaning he tried it out and looked at the pictures,� he says. Hockney isn't saying Leonardo traced the "Mona Lisa," but that it has the qualities you see in an optical projection, like the soft shadows. �Whether he used the lens for this, I don't know. Nobody knows. It wouldn't matter. He wouldn't need it, but he'd already seen the wonderful softness,� he says. Then there are all those left-handed people who suddenly showed up in paintings - Hockney's smoking gun. If you just use a lens alone, left becomes right, and vice-versa. Dr. Charles Falco, a physicist at the University of Arizona, and an expert in optics, heard about Hockney's theory and was fascinated. As a scientist, he thought, "If this is true, I can prove it." The first painting that caught his eye was the 1543 "Wedding Portrait" by Lorenzo Lotto. �He made a mistake. That's what told me a lens was used. This central pattern of this geometrical tablecloth goes out of focus,� says Falco. �Your eye doesn't naturally see something out of focus. The only way you could see this feature is if you'd seen something with a lens.� He also found more evidence in the portrait of Cardinal Albergati by van Eyck: �This is one of the rare examples where a preliminary drawing exists along with the painting. I looked at this and said, 'My God, this is good enough to be a photocopy.�� �So let's see how actually perfect it is," he adds. "I'll blow up the drawing to the same scale as the painting, and when I overlay them, every feature, every wrinkle, every hair is accurate.� Except for the ear: �It's completely off. What if he bumped his easel when he's doing this? Watch the ear. It's perfect.� But Liedtke says there are other explanations. For example, he told us van Eyck could have used a geometric grid to enlarge his drawings. �I think it's simply been taken too far,� says Liedtke. �We now have a kind of optical explanation for realism in Western art. And the, I have to say, the celebrity factor here is really important. If I wrote this book and submitted it to a publisher, it would be sent back to me. But it's a little bit like Jane Fonda's workout or Steven Seagal's Buddhism. You know? It's David Hockney's optics, and so it goes down well.� He believes that it's remotely possibly that this could have happened, and it probably happened in some cases, but "simply not to the extent that it rewrites the history of art.� Hockney's optics is a rewriting of the history of art. But he insists it in no way diminishes the artists. �Actually, my respect for them is more," he says. "If you were given a tracing of a Vermeer, 'Here, now you paint the Vermeer.' Absurd to think that 'Ah, well, that's done and now I can do it.' You can't.�

Thanks Lisa. Missed it but you are *very good* to share.

It was a fascinating segment. Evelyn called to make sure I watched it, as she saw it on the first run. I found Hockney's theory and its proof highly believable. The chandelier was a particularly excellent example. Also, how Dr. Falco noticed that everyone became left-handed in these paintings can't be explained otherwise or ignored. Wonder how they will show Vermeer working with the camera obscura in GWAPE. Will he trace the projected image? Oh, I doubt it. ;-D

Does anyone know the rules of release dates for DVDs? Some (TIOBE) took 9 months while others (where ever the actor is not CF) are out almost as soon as the film is off the circuit. Doesn't seem fair.

Does anyone know the rules of release dates for DVDs? There really aren't any "rules" though it seems like it would have to be at least 3 months after theatrical release. Other things might factor in as well.

Re: 60 Minutes and David Hockney Camera Obscura "scandal" As he himself says �Actually, my respect for them is more," he says. "If you were given a tracing of a Vermeer, 'Here, now you paint the Vermeer.' Absurd to think that 'Ah, well, that's done and now I can do it.' You can't.� I didn't see this program, I only read about Hockney(New Yorker?), and seeing may be more convincing than reading, but I don't understand all the fuss other than they might have discovered something heretofore unknown. If these masters did use this technique, it is tres fascinating but not much more. Thinking of the progressive techniques available to today's artists and none can begin to compete with what was done four centuries ago. (Karen)Wonder how they will show Vermeer working with the camera obscura in GWAPE. Will he trace the projected image? Oh, I doubt it. ;-D Can you imagine the outrage if they did:D

So if you leave one tag unclosed, they all are? Meaculpa

Leno to Get Makeover from 'Queer Eye' Guys Is a "Queer Eye" plus Jay Leno's big chin the right look or good ratings? The NBC television network thinks so. With new reality series "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" having become a breakout summer hit for the Bravo cable TV channel, Bravo parent NBC said on Monday it will bring the show's "Fab Five" make-over artists onto "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" for a pair of special appearances next week. The "Queer Eye" quintet will make their "Tonight Show" debut as guests on Aug. 14, then return the following night to give Leno and his program a special make-over. "Queer Eye," which has become a major ratings winner for Bravo, features five gay men with expertise in good grooming, food, fashion, culture and interior design coming to the aid of a hapless heterosexual slob. The hour-long show has drawn the cable channel's highest audience numbers ever. An initial half-hour repeat of the show on NBC proved to be a solid ratings performer, and "Queer Eye" hype has continued to build in U.S. popular culture since that special broadcast. NBC plans to air a second 30-minute prime-time installment on Aug. 14, the same evening as the Fab Five's debut on Leno. While audiences have taken warmly to "Queer Eye," some of the nation's top TV critics have been mixed in their reviews. "In this long summer of instantly disposable reality TV, cable's Bravo channel manages to break through the pathetic pack by slyly subverting one of the genre's conventions," TV Guide critic Matt Roush wrote in this week's issue. "Yes, the 'Fab Five' can be bitchy, but as they bond with their subject, there's a lot of heart in the way they root for him." Washington Post critic Tom Shales took a different tack, though, in his initial review of the show. "Forced to choose between scorn and condescension, gay people could hardly be blamed for preferring the latter -- and thus might not object to the stereotypes on parade in the series," he said last month.

LOL! Saw that last night or this morning and was going to post, but got sidetracked. I hope they don't oveexpose them (which of course they will) like the Osbornes. Much as I loved that show, got sick of seeing them everywhere and their show. They're on the cover of Entertainment Weekly, too. Gotta say, I hate the stereotypical pink background on it.

Rather watch them then Kobe Koverage. :-(

Hugh Jackman opens the box office on Broadway for The Boy From Oz: http://www.broadway.com/template_3.asp?CT=26&CI=30083&AP=7&NA=F

Related: (Meg Tilly's husband and Colin's oldest son's step dad) Sony Studio Chief Calley to Retire, Associates Say Move would end the Hollywood legend's executive career. Trio are expected to run unit. By Claudia Eller Times Staff Writer August 6, 2003 John Calley, a Hollywood legend, plans to retire as chairman of Sony Corp.'s film studio this fall, according to associates. The move would close the books on a storied executive career during which Calley, 73, ran three studios, championed pictures that ranged from "Clockwork Orange" to "Spider-Man" and shocked the movie industry by taking a 13-year hiatus before returning to help salvage faltering United Artists in 1993. People close to Calley said he had told his immediate boss, Sony Corp. of America Chairman Howard Stringer, that he wants to relinquish his duties and focus on producing movies for the company's Sony Pictures Entertainment unit. Calley has headed the Culver City-based studio, which owns Columbia Pictures, for almost seven years. Instead of naming a successor, Stringer intends to put day-to-day control of Sony Pictures in the hands of its three vice chairpersons: Amy Pascal, who is head of Columbia; Jeff Blake, who oversees worldwide marketing and distribution; and Yair Landau, who runs Sony's digital and television operations. Sony executives wouldn't confirm Calley's planned resignation and said neither Stringer nor Calley, who is on vacation, was available for comment Tuesday. But sources indicate that negotiations are underway to settle Calley's contract. The retirement plan ends long-running speculation over Calley's future and appears to formalize a management structure that has been largely in place since last fall. At that point, Pascal, Blake and Landau assumed their current positions in a realignment that followed the departure of Chief Operating Officer Mel Harris. As Calley began spending less time in the office, the three became de facto co-chiefs of the studio, trafficking directly with New York-based Stringer, to whom they will now report. Calley's retirement will further empower Stringer, who is in charge of all Sony operations in America and who is known to be a favorite son of the brass at Sony Corp.'s Tokyo headquarters. This year, Stringer was promoted to corporate vice chairman. In anticipation of Calley's retirement, Stringer several months ago set up a seven-person operating committee, headed by himself, to monitor spending at the film unit. Along with Calley, Pascal, Blake and Landau, the group includes Sony Corp. of America Chief Financial Officer Rob Wiesenthal and Joe Roth, head of Revolution Studios. Sony is an investor in Revolution and distributes its films. Calley is expected to remain on the committee after he leaves his current post. Such group management has become more common in Hollywood, where the rising cost of films has led to shared responsibility and the gradual elimination of old-style studio chieftains. News Corp.'s 20th Century Fox, for instance, is run by co-chiefs, and several studios have seen a proliferation of vice chairmen. Roth, who previously headed the Fox studio and Walt Disney Co.'s Disney Studios, had long been thought of as a successor to Calley; but he will not be stepping into the chairmanship role, sources said. Sources said Stringer's efforts to persuade Calley to ride out his two-year contract had failed. Calley agreed to his current deal in February. Since taking charge of Sony in late 1996, Calley has known the full range of hits and embarrassments that are typical of the volatile film business. In 2002, the company posted its best year at the box office, with $2.8 billion in worldwide ticket sales, thanks to the spectacular success of "Spider-Man," "Men in Black II," "XXX" and "Mr. Deeds," among others. Lately, however, Sony has been burned by "Gigli" and "Hollywood Homicide," a pair of costly flops from Revolution, and the soft performance of its hugely expensive "Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle." The studio's "Bad Boys II," another costly bet, has taken in about $113 million at the box office but saw business drop dramatically after its strong opening. With a sharp wit and charm that seduced some of the industry's finest filmmakers, Calley was a key player in the careers of directors Stanley Kubrick and Mike Nichols, among many others. Calley was born in New Jersey, graduated from Columbia University and served in the Army. He worked in the television and advertising industries before joining Filmways Inc., a production company that made "Catch-22," directed by Nichols, who would become Calley's best friend and lifelong associate. Joining Warner Bros. in 1969, Calley eventually became the studio's president, a position in which he won his reputation as an urbane and self-assured executive who relied heavily on his own taste in picking films. During 11 years with the Burbank studio, he worked repeatedly with Kubrick, while often scoring with such offbeat bets as "The Exorcist," "Chariots of Fire" and "Woodstock." In 1980, just after signing a seven-year deal for $21 million, Calley suddenly told his bosses he wanted out. He was 50 years old and, as he later told The Times, "I felt in some wacky way that I had lost myself and was being described to myself by my phone list and the invitations which I never responded to." The resignation began a years-long personal hiatus during which he initially lived alone on Fishers Island, N.Y. Turning his back on Hollywood, he was asked by an actress at a party for one of his successors, "Are you John Calley?" He answered, "I was. The guy you want is over there." Eventually, Calley began producing films, including "Remains of the Day" and "Postcards From the Edge," in partnership with Nichols. Later, Hollywood power broker Michael Ovitz persuaded Calley to return to the executive fray as chief of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc.'s United Artists unit, which he revived with hits such as "The Birdcage," "Get Shorty" and "GoldenEye." It wasn't immediately clear whether Calley would stake his new status as a producer for Sony on some of the studio's existing projects. According to associates, one of the executive's pet projects at the moment is "Closer," based on Patrick Marber's acclaimed play; that film is set to shoot in London with Nichols directing. Calley also is said to have a strong interest in "The Da Vinci Code," based on Dan Brown's bestselling thriller novel. Ron Howard has discussed directing the film, and his partner Brian Grazer may produce it.

(re: article)Thanks Murph, sounds like an interesting guy and I wondered how Will got that extra part in Spiderman.

I thought I read that he and Meg divorced or were divorcing a while back. No matter. I have a question regarding Colin's involvement, or lack thereof, in Le Divorce. How far exactly was he involved? Was he definitely attached at some point then dropped out? Or was he just mentioned in relation to it? And he was supposed to do the role Matthew Modine got (part of the joke of MM getting Colin's parts)? I'll post more later when I get home and hopefully get an answer here.

(Dorine) I thought I read that he and Meg divorced or were divorcing a while back. Yup. I have a question regarding Colin's involvement, or lack thereof, in Le Divorce. How far exactly was he involved? Was he definitely attached at some point then dropped out? Or was he just mentioned in relation to it? And he was supposed to do the role Matthew Modine got (part of the joke of MM getting Colin's parts)? Can't find any hard copy in my "Rumor" file, but he was simply mentioned in relation to it. No mention of which part. We speculated it would be the dead husband (fit the book's description perfectly) though I am happy to see they cast Frenchmen into Frenchmen roles. Who knows, he might have been up for Stephen Fry's role for all we know. .;-) Why they would want him for MM's role (a cuckolded American husband) escapes me.

Here's a bit more about "Sylvia" from that same article: Christine Jeffs, another director-for-hire, was lured off her organic farm in rural New Zealand and given a mere eight weeks to prepare for Focus Features' "Sylvia," a Sylvia Plath biopic that centers on her tragic marriage to poet laureate Ted Hughes. True to one of literature's stormiest relationships, the production ran into some controversy when Frieda Hughes, Plath's surviving daughter and literary executor, refused to take part and angrily denounced the project in verse. ("Now they want to make a film/For anyone lacking the ability/To imagine the body, head in oven/Orphaning children.") After original director Paul Pavlikovsky (2001's "Last Resort") dropped out over disagreements on the script, Jeffs was the ideal last-minute replacement, a strong visual stylist whose lyrical coming-of-age drama "Rain" (2002) impressed "Sylvia" star Gwyneth Paltrow, whose long-standing passion kept the project afloat. "It was like jumping onto a moving train," says Jeffs of not being involved with the development process. "When you come onto something so late, there's a lot that's out of your control. The schedule is set in place, and the budget has already been allocated. There's a lot I would have done differently, but I'm still very happy with what we've accomplished." Tight as it seems, Jeffs' eight weeks of prep was a veritable eternity compared to the eight days allotted to writer-director Peter Hedges for his microbudgeted debut feature "Pieces of April"...

(Dorine)How far exactly was he involved? I recall someone getting in touch with either Merchant-Ivory or the studio and the answer was that there was nothing to the rumor of Colin's involvment. Just as well, the male roles seem like they'll be nothing much in this one.

(Dorine)How far exactly was he involved? Wanna read it ? It's on my night table ;along with Maid of Butterball,Armadillo, Flashman, Hamlet...blah, blah blah.And remember Sherlock Holmes, back in the days of the FAQ Colin Firth website? Mari , it was a rumor , but it appeared in print in a credible broadsheet as I remember. Not just another stupid internet rumor. Just as well, as you say,...he wouldn't have looked so cute with his dead feet hanging out of a garbage can;-)

(LisaJH, from 60 Minutes transcript) �Actually, my respect for them is more," he says. "If you were given a tracing of a Vermeer, 'Here, now you paint the Vermeer.' Absurd to think that 'Ah, well, that's done and now I can do it.' You can't.� The theory that Jan (or Johannes) Vermeer had an interest in optics and employed a camera obscura has been around since shortly after the artist's "rediscovery" by the art world in the nineteenth century. It was suggested by James Pennell, an American etcher and lithographer, in 1891 in an article written for the "Journal of the Camera Club". Pennell was struck by the particularly photographic perspective employed in the Vermeer painting entitled "Soldier and Laughing Girl". The foreground figure of the soldier is disproportionately large in relation to that of the girl. It has been theorized that although this seems a quite commonplace, and correct, viewpoint for a "close up" perspective; it may well have seemed very extreme, or even brutal, to seventeenth century eyes. It has been suggested that some of Vermeer's contemporaries would have made the two figures of more equal a size in this type of composition. The second reason for the camera obscura hypothesis lies with the fact that some of the maps that are shown hanging on the back wall of the room in the painting are real maps that Vermeer owned, which still are extant. In 1975, the art historian James Welu demonstrated just how precisely Vermeer had copied the originals. Also, the camera obscura was used in the 18th and 19th centuries for copying existing pictures and prints. Here's a link to the painting: http://www.abcgallery.com/V/vermeer/vermeer7.html The possibility of Vermeer having used a camera obscura is based on general observations about his paintings. It also should be noted that Vermeer had no students or apprentices, and that he left no records. So we may well know less about his methods of working than we do his life, and very little is known about that. The work by Professor Philip Steadman, of the Open University in England, has also explored this issue. Steadman avers that clues Vermeer has left us in his work offer the suggestion that his paintings can be thought of as photographs as much as paintings. This in no way belittles Vermeer's contribution to the world of art. It is rather a suggestion that, by an almost scientific examination of the world using a lens, Vermeer may well be though of in the same context as scientific geniuses of the 17th century, such as Anton van Leeuwenhoek, who through the microscope lens revealed the miniature world contained in a drop of water, and Galileo, whose telescope explored the heavens. A third piece of evidence for Vermeer's supposedly using the camera obscura hinges on his treatment of highlights on reflective surfaces. It is these "circles of confusion", which are created when bright highlights are viewed through a lens which either not quite focused, or not a very hight quality lens. This is particularly notable in Vermeer's "Girl with a Red Hat". There is a distinctive soft focus effect on the girl's earring and the brass lion's head. The highlights are expressed as small circles of white or yellow pigment. This indoor scene would have been naturally lit by light filtering through windows, in which case the highlights would have been rectangular. The fact that they are circular supports the theory for use of the camera obscura. Here's a link to the painting: http://www.abcgallery.com/V/vermeer/vermeer31.html Lawrence Gowing in a 1952 monograph about Vermeer, discusses the way in which Vermeer just seems to transcribe the pattern of light and shade, with little of the underlying drawing to build up representation of his subjects. Gowing stated it in this way: "The description is always exactly adequate, always completely and effortlessly in terms of light. Vermeer seems almost not to care, or even to know, what it is that he is painting. What do men call this wedge of light? A nose? A finger? What do we know of its shape? To Vermeer none of this matters, the conceptual world of names and knowledge is forgotten, nothing concerns him but what is visible, the tone, the wedge of light." An observation of one of Vermeer's paintings which had been X-rayed was that there were no lines of a preliminary drawing, but instead, an image of the same picture, only rendered in black and white. Still, there is no actual evidence that Jan Vermeer did use the camera obscura, or any optical device, in the creation of his paintings. However, seventeenth Holland was a center in the manufacturing of high quality optical instruments. So, the theory that Vermeer employed the use of the camera obscura has been around for over one hundred years. It is established that eighteenth century artists such as Canaletto did use the camera obscura, which is a predecessor of the modern photographic camera, only without light-sensitive film or a plate. The noted portraitist Joshua Reynolds also owned a camera obscura. It was widely employed by both professional and amateur landscape painters, until the 1830's and the invention of chemical photography. The suggestion that Jan Vermeer employed the camera obscura still remains controversial. If you are interested in reading any of Professor Philip Steadman's argument for Vermeer's use of an optical device, here's is a link: http://webexhibits.org/hockneyoptics/post/steadman.html

Great stuff Cheryl! Thanks.

Whoa, Cheryl.....I *like*. Now how about the Angolan War? I'll need help for TDW.

(Evelyn)Now how about the Angolan War? I'll need help for TDW. Ask and you shall receive;-) http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/search?query=angolan+war&page=5 ...and I think we've seen this before concerning TDW. http://www.thezreview.co.uk/comingsoon/d/deadwaitthe.htm Thanks, Cheryl great article...and thanks for the link

Sorry, that first link is wrong. Try this. http://www.onwar.com/aced/nation/all/angola/findex.htm

Ladies, please pardon the language, but tonight our Spring Server is doing a "dump". In other words, we're backing everything up on our main hard drive to our second hard drive. We have four 120 gb hard drives to support all this drooling! Room for lots of drool. Master Koti is doing the good deed and supervising this operation, he's our official "Dumpmaster" or "Master of Dumps". This means that should something happen to our primary drive we could swap in the secondary and not miss a beat. May not seem so exciting to some, but I will sleep better tonight knowing that our system is safely backed up. So if things seem a bit slow you know why, our old server is having a huge workout! Apologies to those experiencing slow response times. It's all for a good reason.

Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ar0s1a 117713876 24536726 83760040 23% / /dev/ar1s1e 118738616 17092848 92146680 16% /disk2 /dev/ad0s1e 118738616 84081146 25158382 77% /disk3 /dev/ad1s1e 118738616 14437626 94801902 13% /disk4 Our disk stats. I know, boring aren't they?

Dump complete. bash-2.05a$ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ar0s1a 117713876 24455550 83841216 23% / /dev/ar1s1e 118738616 24552732 84686796 22% /disk2 /dev/ad0s1e 118738616 84081146 25158382 77% /disk3 /dev/ad1s1e 118738616 14437626 94801902 13% /disk4 procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc Notice that /disk2 now has a full backup of our root server.

They could be including Trauma in an article like this next year. Who knows? Offbeat UK Film Industry Taking on Hollywood Thu Aug 7, 3:29 AM ET By Pete Harrison LONDON (Reuters) - Edgy and offbeat British films are making a big impact with international audiences, often trouncing the hi-tech, big-budget Hollywood competition, the UK Film Council said on Thursday. Zombie flick "28 Days Later" and gritty arthouse production "Magdalene Sisters" are helping British films double their share of takings in the U.S. compared to last summer. "The important thing about them is they're an alternative to the 'Hulk' and the 'Charlie's Angles' type films," British Film Council CEO John Woodward told Reuters. The Film Council said Britain's share of this weekend's top 15 at the U.S. box office was 13 percent, about double the average for last summer. "The films that make a hit tend to be left of field," said Woodward. "They're different, but they're not alien. "28 Days Later," a digitally-shot film about post-apocalyptic Britain that cost about five million pounds ($8 million) to make, has clocked up ticket sales of $40 million in the U.S. and about $65 million worldwide. By contrast, big-budget U.S. films are not guaranteed success even at home. The $54 million-budgeted kidnap drama "Gigli," starring Jennifer Lopez (news) and Ben Affleck (news), one of the biggest American flops of the summer, pulled in just $3.8 million over its debut weekend. Arnold Schwarznegger action movie "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines," which cost over $100 million to make, has had slightly more success, pulling in $143 million during its five weeks at the box office. British film "Bend it like Beckham," which tells the tale of a girl soccer heroine, is another of Britain's success stories. It has so far taken $28 million during its 21 weeks stateside and has grossed $70 million worldwide. "The important thing about 'Bend it like Beckham' and '28 Days Later' is that they're both low budget and are part funded by the National Lottery," said Woodward. The slightly higher-budget film "Johnny English" is now at number 11 in the U.S. film charts, having reached number four in its debut week. The spy comedy about an inept spy played by Mr Bean star Rowan Atkinson (news) has grossed $23 million during its three weeks in the United States, taking its worldwide total to $135 million.

for those concerned -;)- with sex in the city, carrie/mikhail....there are some promising shots here: (sorry about the length of this link!) http://217.158.83.123/scripts/kws30pre.exe?site=LFI&picktype=GfxOnly&type=GfxOnly&maxhits=12&FLFA_FIELD=&SEARCH_FILTERA=&search=LFNY+003841&hmessage=SEX%20AND%20THE%20CITY%20FILM%20SET%20NY&submit=lsearch

Aw, aren't they cute? With those heels they're eye to eye. ;-D

It's a Hollywood rule: Americans always get to play the heroes - and Brits are invariably the villains. John Patterson Thursday August 7, 2003 The Guardian Every time Tony Blair shows up in Washington to exult in his role as top sprig in the Figleaf of the Willing and to enjoy confabs and photo-ops with Gee Dubya, I have to wonder once again what we, the Brits, actually get out of this long-treasured, murkily defined "special relationship" between former imperial oppressor and former colonial upstart. As Tony lurks at Furious George's right hand, calamitously clad in his usual vacationing geography teacher's nerd ensemble, one has to presume he's there simply to make George look good, or just to share the heat. What Blair gains, if anything, is impossible to quantify. Meanwhile, in Hollywood and London, the movie version of the special relationship has long played itself out in like manner. Our cut-price actors come over and do their dirty work, as villains and baddies and psychopaths, even American ones, while the cream of their prohibitively expensive acting talent Concordes it over the pond to steal the lion's share of our heroic roles. Either way, we lose. Pirates of the Caribbean manages to embody this phenomenon from both sides at once. The ghostly pirates of the Black Pearl, commanded by Geoffrey Rush (an Aussie, but never mind, Americans think he's a Brit), all talk with the absurd Jolly Jack Tar accents that one associates with press gangs, poop decks and Plymouth Hoe. The snooty island governor and his worthless son are played by Jonathan Pryce and Jack Davenport, their Englishness a shorthand for all manner of class-based unseemliness and degeneracy. The hero, Jack Swallow, is also a Brit, but he's played by the American Johnny Depp, hidden behind an accent apparently purloined from a comatose Keef Richards. Depp was also the English policeman hero in From Hell, in which he found himself neck-deep in creepy posh Brits and at daggers drawn with Jack the Ripper, who, you'll not be surprised to learn, was not played by an American. Likewise Tomb Raider 2, in which Angelina Jolie stars as English rose Lara Croft, with an accent that sounds like Princess Margaret throwing up, while Ciaran Hinds, the luckless Brit, gets to play a psychopathic bioterrorist. In both movies the true Brits take it in the neck while the fake Brits take it to the bank. So what do they really think of us? What qualifies us to play their baddies? Firstly, there's that all-important umbilical connection between Britain and America, the cord they cut when it suddenly looked as though the 13 colonies might end up as part of a British empire in which slavery was illegal (abolition didn't happen until 1833, but it was certainly a galvanising factor in 1776). In the American folk memory, we are the original oppressors, the imperial bullies who had the nerve to ask a bunch of rich white men to pay their taxes. All those guns that present-day rednecks keep under the bed? They're for when General Cornwallis and his boys come calling at four in the morning. Paul Revere's famous cry, "The British are coming!", retained its folkloric potency long after we had kissed and made up, suggesting that Americans are still predisposed by national myth to regard us as an enemy. This was proved by The Patriot three years ago, in which Jason Isaacs played an English colonel as a variation on Adolf Eichmann, merrily burning women and children to death in a church (though no such atrocity - or any remotely like it - ever took place in the revolutionary war). The outlines of that original conflict - starchy, uptight roast-beef John Bulls in easy-to-aim-at red coats, versus plucky little camouflaged guerilla-fighter farmers - can easily be displaced into other scenarios, like the Roman empire, the second world war, and even the contemporary political scene. This early relationship has since become barnacled with more contemporary American cliches about the British. We are effete and overly educated. We're snobs. We like to be tied up and whipped. We all went to boarding school, even our footie hooligans. We think we still run the world or, to borrow Macmillan's phrase, that "we must be Greece to their Rome", ameliorating the caveman excesses of an upstart superpower. And we think we're better than the Americans in some mysterious, indefinable way. How dare we! Whether or not any of these accusations has an iota of truth to it doesn't really matter in Hollywood. They certainly provide an excellent basis for a race of baddies: imperial arrogance, natural viciousness, sexual perviness and gay-boy accents. From there it's a simple matter of "Call Peter Ustinov/Larry Olivier/ Malcolm McDowell! We need a Nero/Crassus/Caligula!" Jesus is usually an American in biblical epics. Judas, meanwhile, is just as likely to be a Brit. In The Greatest Story Ever Told, Jesus was a Swede (Max von Sydow), but the formula held good for David McCallum's blond betrayer. And if they're not playing Judas, then the Brits will be all over the Roman imperial power structure, raining vicious blows down on the heads of Jesus and his 12 Americans. Heston's Judah Ben-Hur faced off against Ulsterman Stephen Boyd as the gimlet-eyed Marsalla. Kirk Douglas's live-free-or-die-tryin' Spartacus gave Lawrence Olivier what for as the fascistic Crassus, and there was just no reasoning with David Bowie's Pilate in The Last Temptation of Christ. Even in Gladiator the formula was intact, despite the presence of an Australian hero and an American villain. Joaquin Phoenix may be as American as apple pie, but in order to pull off his villainous role he had to be fitted with a lisping English accent to underline his irremediable moral degeneracy. On the sidelines were all the usual Roman-Limey weirdos, the foremost being David Hemmings with a Lucille Ball wig and eyebrows like water diviners. Must be a pervert. From all this it's a short step to Hitler the Englishman. Was there not a single American actor prepared to play young Adolf in the recent NBC mini-series based on Ian Kershaw's biography? Of course not, so they called on Robert Carlyle, a grown-up who fancied a challenge. And for Max, a film about Hitler the art student? Noah Taylor got the job. Heydrich in HBO's Conspiracy, about the Wannsee conference? Kenneth Branagh. You were expecting Alec Baldwin? And even when it comes to such quintessentially American bad guys as Richard Nixon, they call on us again. Anthony Hopkins will never be topped in the role, but was there really no American actor interested in such a challenging job? Likewise Michael Gambon as LBJ in John Frankenheimer's excellent The Path to War, or even Emma Thompson as an ersatz Hillary Clinton in Primary Colors. Kennedy is always played by an American, just like Jesus, but Lee Harvey Oswald? Call Gary Oldman. It leaves one wondering who's left who looms large in the American demonology, and must therefore be played by an Englishman. Ho Chi Minh? Mao? Saddam? Osama? Imelda Marcos? Call Ben Kingsley! The countervailing tendency is the number of Americans who show up here to star in quintessentially English roles. First there was Kevin Costner as Robin Hood, prince of surfers, and in the years since we've had Jolie as Croft, Zellweger as Bridget Jones, Gwyneth Paltrow as half the index of FR Leavis's The Great Tradition, Reese Witherspoon in The Importance of Being Earnest and Vanity Fair, and countless others. With one hand they accept from us; with the other they take from us: in movies, as in geopolitics, the only special relationship America has is with America.

Great article, Murph, thanks for posting it. Kevin Costner as Robin Hood, prince of surfers LOL, dude! Geoffrey Rush (an Aussie, but never mind, Americans think he's a Brit) Hey, some of us know our geography! ;-)

Thanks Murphy for the very entertaining and enlightening article. Made me think of all of the Disney movies (101 Dalmations or Lion King, for example) where the good guys sound neutal or American while the bad guys have exaggerated British accents

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where the good guys sound neutal or American while the bad guys have exaggerated British accents All of which is because young Americans are brought up to believe we only hug dogs and horses, that we have a rigid class system etc... *grrrr*! And I meet a lot of young Americans and discuss with them their views on the UK so I have some insight into this. It is one of my beefs with the idea of a film like WAGW. Wasn't going to bore you with my views - I could go on for hours - but that article hit a raw nerve. Going back in my kennel now (with my best firend fido:-) )

Perpetuated by Eileen Atkins, who is given credit for that line in the film. BTW, I read Patterson's article this a.m., but there have been loads of others on this same subject over the years. Felt like emailing Patterson to tell him that Ciaran Hinds is Irish (not a "luckless Brit"), or perhaps they're all the same to him too. ;-D

Of course there are many examples that are counter to the points that the Guardian writer set forth, which he has conveniently ignored. Off the top of my head . . . --He complains about Jesus played by Americans (when???) It's generally acknowldedged that the best Jesus was the English Robert Powell, in the US TV film Jesus of Nazareth, which is an Easter time classic here. --Ken Branagh in Conspiracy. But . . . Tucci played Eichmann. --Johnny Depp in Pirates. Sorry, but his performance makes the film and the British critics are rightly acknowledging that. Seems to me they got the best actor for the job--how awful!;-) And what about Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightly? They're good guys in this film, and it's making them household names from which they will get other good roles. --How about Bloom and Ian McKellan in LOTR?? US-financed to the tune of $300 million. --What about practically everybody in Harry Potter? If the situation were reversed, would an English studio finance a story about a noble American boy and his noble American friends and teachers? I think not. --Brits playing good guy Americans: Kate Winslet in Titanic. Tom Wilkinson in In The Bedroom and more recently on HBO in Normal. Dominic West in HBO's The Wire. Joely Richardson in Nip/Tuck. We have a term for these roles: Oscar and Emmy nominees.;-) --Keen Eddie, Fox show full of English good guys and girls played by English actors. --They've never tried to cast an American as James Bond.;-) US-produced and financed and isn't JB the ultimate hero (to some anyway)? I could go on, but the point it, this writer needs to stop trotting out the same old hurts, and take a look at the other side of the coin.

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"It's a Hollywood rule: Americans always get to play the heroes - and Brits are invariably the villains." Whine, whine, whine... I'm thinking... ..the forthcoming Cold Mountain with Jude Law playing Inman, from North Carolina fergodsake. Michael Gambon playing Lyndon Baines Johnson in Paths of Glory on TV(throw in James Frain in the same production) Anthony Hopkins playing Richard Nixon And that's just for starters. What rot.

(Evelyn)I'm thinking... the forthcoming Cold Mountain with Jude Law playing Inman, from North Carolina fergodsake Ah yes, how could I forget that son of the American south, Jude Law.;-) Or his lover, that Dixie daughter from Down Under, Nicole Kidman?;-) Then again, we also had Vivien Leigh as Scarlett--or should Viv have turned down that role of a lifetime because, damn, Scarlett could be construed as a baddie?;-) How about the ultimate good guy, Obi Wan Kenobi of Star Wars, played as English by Alec Guinees and Ewan McGregor? What about Emma Thompson in HBO's Wit, where the role was changed to English, from the originally written American? How About Cary Grant, who spoke in the same accent regardless of what nationality he was supposed to be playing? What about Colin Firth in 3DOR??!;-) The best: Damian Lewis as Joe Average American soldier Dick Winters in Band Of Brothers. And if we extend it to other non-Americans playing American superheroes, how about Hugh Jackman in X-Men? Eric Bana in The Hulk? How about writers like this guy from The Guardian removing the chip off their shoulders and stop being so petty?

John, try TCM or AMC, lots of Brits as heroes in the movies they show. And John, it doesn't matter what nationality the actor is as long as his/her performance is a good one. (Dorine) They could be including Trauma in an article like this next year. Who knows? Please tell me you're psychic and have seen the future ;-)

What great articles and info ladies. Thank you so much. All very enlightning.

Clive Owen at the Pirates of the Caribbean premiere in Dublin on Tuesday.(this IS odds and ends, right?) Thud!

But Clive has his own topic here, or at least he did.

Karen: I don't see it listed at the Drool Conference page. How else do you find it?

Thud is right! He let his hair grow out a bit. :-D

Clive Owen, I see it at topic 141...

Thanks, Dorine - #141 here I come.

Oops -- I meant Odile.

The Best and the Brightest: A Rush to Judgement Leonard Klady Movie City News August 6, 2003 This has probably popped up on at least one previous occasion. Most of my mornings are spent at the Fairfax Farmer's Market (not the one making recent tragic headlines in Santa Monica) with a group of curmudgeons (mostly writers) that work in the film industry. I've been part of the relatively consistent assemblage for close to 20 years and we've popped up on television (Naked Hollywood) and print profiles (Los Angeles Weekly). The morning gab and kvetchfest has spawned countless articles and columns over the years (including this one). The other day, one group member weighed in with his assessment of Seabiscuit. Like so many others, he found the film's first 40 minutes - in which the backstories of the owner, trainer and jockey of the famous mount are detailed - to be cumbersome and overstated. He also felt the pains taken to situate the tale as the quintessence of the great Depression to be inelegant and pointed to a TV documentary on the steed that managed to do all those things in less than five minutes. However, he also said that it was a serious, thoughtful adult film with an emotional pull that overcame most of its flaws. Another table participant piped in and asked: "So is it going to win the Oscar?" The response was negative but the film was clearly, seven months into 2003, the current frontrunner. What grabbed my attention in the brief exchange was the inclusion of Oscar. It is the yardstick from which each film's pedigree is measured. No one involved in a discourse of this nature anywhere on earth is going to ask: Will it win the Golden Globe? Will the National Society make it the picture of the year? And that pretty much distills the fact that Oscar is the big kahuna of film awards. That's been further underlined by the upheaval of the upcoming Praiseathon season now that the Academy Awards will take place one month earlier than its decades-long standard late March berth. I've long maintained that talk of Oscar prior to Labor Day ought to be legislated a felony offence. Several years back a colleague pressed me for Oscar predictions at about this point in the calendar and my patience began to rapidly erode. "People want to know," he insisted. I doubted that, especially because those films he was touting were months away from release and yet to receive any sort of marketing push. Finally, I advised him that if he had to write about the upcoming race and battles that he ought to take a less serious tone and made a $5 wager that what he wrote that day would be unrecognizable from his awards coverage in December or January when he'd actually seen all those films that were presently mere speculation. But before I'm carried off to serve my term for violating the code, I'd like to plea bargain down to a misdemeanor. There will be no mention (apart from this reference) of Cold Mountain, Master and Commander or Mystic River in regard to their Oscarability or the hue and cry should they fail to meet the cut. My present thoughts are about the institution, its position within the American and global film industries and how it measures up to the standards established within and outside its ranks. Somewhere in the recesses of my memory bank is an interview with Oscar winner Lee Marvin conducted by Dick Clark on, of all places, American Bandstand. My recollection is that it occurred circa 1970 and Clark asked Marvin whether the award was "legitimate." The canny Marvin leapt in with a sort of endorsement of Price-Waterhouse. He was confident that the person or film that received the majority of Academy member votes indeed took home the statuette. He took a pause for emphasis and continued with: "If you're asking, Dick, whether sentiment is a factor in voting, I'd have to say that sometimes it is." Sentiment, in the mushiest sense of the word, hasn't really been an oppressive element in Oscar history. About a decade back, a senior studio exec told me that people would be tuning in the broadcast that year because they wanted to see a movie star finally get his due. At that moment in time it was Al Pacino and he did collect his trophy for Scent of a Woman. We all know that when Pacino makes his final exit that his obit will lead off with the words "Oscar winner" and perhaps some mention of the film for which he received the recognition (there will be no mention of other film awards or they will be buried near the end of the piece). However, the film performance that will be singled out will include The Godfathers, Dog Day Afternoon and possibly Scarface. Who wins the Oscar may not always be just or appropriate but somewhere over the course of time, the Academy does its level best to cite those individuals who have left a footprint in the sands of cinema. There is no such thing as an inarguable winner and, barring a tie, there will be five disappointed people when the envelope is opened and a winner announced. Take the case of Peter O'Toole, a seven-time also ran that Academy members nonetheless respect and admire. Over time some of his nominated performances may have worn better than those of even winners on the ballot, but what chance did he have against such adversaries such as Gregory Peck, John Wayne and Brando. So, just last year, the organization's board of governors sought to redress the situation and gave O'Toole a special Oscar as it has done for such Oscarless icons as Cary Grant and Alfred Hitchcock and, ironically, Henry Fonda and Paul Newman who won competitive statuettes one year after receiving special consideration. What must be kept in perspective is that the Academy Award reflects achievement in mainstream American movies. It has doled out honors for work done outside studio walls but often it's been to individuals who were part of the system (William Hurt) or to those being courted by it (Sophia Loren, Daniel Day-Lewis). The honors simply reflect a bias that's understandable considering the composition of its membership, just as the prizes, often arcane, presented by critics groups are the consensus of a different sensibility. Still, any objective analysis of the "best" movie in any of the past 75 years probably would not elect for a 100% slate of English-language pictures. It also seems slightly imbalanced that just two of roughly 288 awards presented in acting categories since the inception of the Oscars have gone to roles in a foreign language movie. The same Americentric result has been true in every other category from writing to production design but not the case (especially since 1960) in non-fiction, short subject and, by definition, foreign-language nominees and winners. The idea behind film industry awards conferred by members of the film industry was never an altruistic pursuit. Certainly part of the impetus came from a string of Hollywood scandals and a seeming need to remind the public that there were films being made that aspired to the finest artistic standards. It was a show with rewards to the popular and gifted and a little bit of positive publicity for movies and movie stars. Today, the Oscars are the number one promotional vehicle for American movies. Statuettes translate into film revenue, boost careers and salaries and generate millions for the organization's other educational and philanthropic activities. For its bottom-liners, documentaries, short subjects and foreign movies are window dressing that they'd prefer be jettisoned. And though one doesn't embrace that attitude, it has a certain merit. The embattled categories do not represent the activities of American mainstream moviemakers and studios. The majors long ago abandoned those departments that produced newsreels, Tom and Jerry, and two-reel dramas such as Crime Does Not Pay that pop up as fillers on Turner Classics. The night at the movies that used to offer an eclectic menu now consists of paid ads, movie trailers and the feature presentation. Coincidently, the rule book for the 76th Academy Awards arrived last week and the guidelines in most categories are relatively straight forward (the five acting achievements receiving the highest number of votes shall become the nominations for final voting). However, that is not the case in foreign-language and documentary sections. For example in foreign-language a submitting country has to have a special jury or board composed of people from that country's film industry and the film it selects must have a majority creative input from artists of that nation. Still, the Academy can (but rarely has) reject official submissions. The film has to have played during a specified period and the version sent must be the release version in that country. Films that do not make the final ballot may be eligible for Oscar consideration in subsequent years based on when they receive an American release but category finalists can only by eligible in other categories in the year of submission and only if they have receive a commercial release in the United States. In the words of Avril Lavigne, "why'd ya have to make things so complicated?" To celebrate its diamond anniversary the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has hosted a series of special programs including a weekly screening of Oscar winners dubbed Facets of the Diamond that runs Mondays and is open to the public. It has been a raging success and in addition to reminding us that a bygone evening at a movie theater was more than the feature attraction (bring back dish night), has prompted the recurring question: What were Academy voters thinking when they gave the Oscar to (fill in name of movie)? Time can be awfully cruel and I submit Cavalcade, The Greatest Show on Earth and The Sting for your consideration. I can appreciate that the zeitgeist of the moment played to the advantage of Gentleman's Agreement but am baffled at what prompted voters in 1957 to select Around the World in 80 Days rather than Giant or Friendly Persuasion. Similarly, it's tough to top Daniel Day-Lewis' Oscar performance in My Left Foot but had the town not been totally aware of the personal and financial sacrifice involved in Cliff Robertson's mounting Charly, might O'Toole have earned an Oscar for A Lion in Winter? At this point it should be noted that a major beneficiary of Oscar largess has been the trades and other media outlets. There isn't time enough to note the number of film related magazines and organizations that survive or thrive from money spent to promote movies and individuals along the yellow brick road to Hollywood and Highland's Kodak Theater. In these tough economic times, it would be foolish not to welcome some form of Academy-related sponsorship. That said, with or without a sugar daddy, I'm going to bite the bullet shortly after Labor Day and take up a friend's (and two-time Oscar winner) challenge and examine as much of Oscar's 75 year history of winners and others as is humanly possible to stomach. Who won, who should have won, who didn't even get nominated. It's a rear view mirror perspective and I reiterate that virtually nothing is inarguable. But were ballots to be cast today for the best movie achievements of 1948 would Hamlet prevail or would it be vanquished by The Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Now if Disney will just lend me Jiminy Cricket, I'll put him on my shoulder to remind me to keep the exercise entertaining and get on with the show. http://www.moviecitynews.com/columnists/klady/gb_030806.html

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I just read Gregory Hines passed away. I didn't know he was ill. A damn shame, IMO. He was too young. :-(

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Calendar Girls packs in Locarno crowd Martin Blaney in Locarno 10 August 2003 Boosted by its prime Saturday evening night slot, the world premiere of Nigel Cole's Calendar Girls has proven to be the biggest draw so far at the Locarno International Film Festival. A staggering 9,500 festival-goers packed into Locarno�s Piazza Grande town square to watch the film, where seating is officially only available for 7,500. Director Nigel Cole was on hand with actor/co-screenwriter Tim Firth and the "real" Calendar girls Angela Baker, Tricia Stewart and Christine Clansy to present the film to what turned out to be a highly appreciative audience. German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, who was on holiday at the time, was one of a string of senior politicians to attend the screening. Others included Swiss President Pascal Couchepin, Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey and David Streiff, director of the Federal Office for Culture, as well as Germany's State Minister for Culture Christine Weiss.

My mom was upset when she heard about Gregory Hines. They're the same age!

NBC unit sells 'Queer' in U.K., Scandinavia NEW YORK -- NBC Enterprises has licensed the Bravo series "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" to networks in the United Kingdom and Scandinavia. The separate deals, announced Friday, cover the first-season order of 20 episodes as well as format rights to produce European versions of "Queer," which has emerged as a hit for Bravo since premiering last month. NBC ran an abridged episode of the series in primetime and plans to repurpose a full hour Thursday. "This is a very unique show," said Leslie Jones, director of international sales at NBC Enterprises. "Even before it aired on the NBC network, it's commanding a level of respect and finance internationally that is up there with strong (broadcast) shows." U.K. programmer Flextech will air "Queer" on its Living TV network, followed by a second run on another of its channels, FTN. Scandinavian programmer ViaSat will air "Queer" on TV3 in Sweden, Norway and Denmark. Flextech will put its own version of "Queer" on the air prior to the U.S. version, while ViaSat will proceed in the opposite order. Starting with a homegrown version of the series might better acclimate Scandinavian viewers to the "Queer" concept, which would be a more natural draw for Brits accustomed to gay-themed programming. "The U.K. audience is more familiar with that type of programming than any other market in the world," Jones said. NBC is continuing to shop "Queer" around the globe, with Australia likely to be the next country to snap up both U.S. and local versions; other smaller territories have bought only the American version of "Queer." More conservative regions such as select markets in Asia are likely to steer clear of the concept. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.

(Dorine) I just read Gregory Hines passed away. I didn't know he was ill. A damn shame, IMO. He was too young. :-( Another name to add to the list of talented people gone this year. Had no idea he was ill. Shocker.

I was surprised to learn about Hines. So much of the TV/print obits focus on his dancing (which was wonderful), but give less attention to his acting, which was also excellent. On a happier note, I saw "Big River" recently in NYC. If you don't know about it, this is a revival of a muscial based on Twain's Huck Finn. The music and lyrics are by Roger Miller (King of the Road, Can't Roller Skate in a Buffalo Herd, etc). Miller wrote cute ditties, and admitted he wasn't Jerome Kern (supposedly referred to himself as "Jerome Corn"), so the songs aren't exceptional. What makes this performance worth seeing is the staging and unusual cast. If you like theater for it's "theatricality," then you'll like this. The production started on the West Coast, with Deaf West and Guthrie. The cast is a mixture of deaf/nonspeaking actors and hearing/speaking actors. Some parts (Twain, Jim) are played by speaking actors who sign as they speak. Other parts are played by deaf/nonspeaking actors who sign while a speaking actor voices the part. It's hard to describe without making it sound crazy, but it's wonderful. Huck is a deaf/nonspeaking actor. The actor who plays Twain speaks Huck's lines. (Think about it--Huck is the author's "voice" in the book, now the "author" is the "character's" voice) Most of the speakers stand or sit out of the action, but Huck's father is played by a deaf/nonspeaking/signing actor and a speaking actor who shadows him. If you've been wondering about seeing this, but afraid that the signing might be intrusive, don't worry. Fortunately, the plot is simple enough (and familiar enough) that if you do get caught up in watching the signing, you don't get lost. Signing can be very expressive. I used to know a little, but remember none of it. I found it fascinating to watch, as it is very "interpretive," with signs representing concepts more than specific words. I've seen signed performances before, but the signer was always just standing to the side, like a human subtitle. Here, it's incorporated seamlessly, to a hearing person, it's like gestures that emphasize dialogue. It may help that, with amplification (ubiquitous nowadays), all the voices come out of the speakers anyhow. Frankly, the musical itself is not fabulous. As I said, Miller wrote "ditties," cute songs. Sondheim he wasn't. Adding the deaf actors and signing gives this play more substance than it would have had if they'd just done a "regular" production. I think there are discount tickets through playbill.com and other such sources. (I went as part of a subscription, so I don't know exactly what my ticket was "worth")

Here's a great site that Carrie shared with CF-Yahoo after I posted that ridiculously long URL for the LA trailer. Just thought I'd share :) http://tinyurl.com/

Thanks Karen for the news about "Calendar Girls." I saw an interview about it and think this is going to be a good one. Glad to see its beeing well received. Sorry to hear about Gregory Hines. His death is a shocker. A great talent that will be sorely missed.

Film really has a debt to pay David Liddiment Monday August 11, 2003 The Guardian Summertime, and television ratings have been shrivelling in the heat. Time to reach for that reliable old standby, the Hollywood blockbuster, to revive wilting schedules. Enter Rambo, Bond and Bruce Willis on ITV1, and Schwarzenegger on Channels 4 and 5. Movies may not be the mainstay of mainstream TV they once were but they are still an essential ingredient of all our terrestrial channels. And that's not just for the handful of big premieres each year. In addition, there is a significant back catalogue of mainly action titles that are pretty much guaranteed to attract a good audience whenever they are shown. But they will all be US-made because when it comes to shoring up schedules, it is the Hollywood cavalry you call in, not the local, part-time fire brigade. There are very few British movies on terrestrial TV, something the film lobby here would dearly love to change. Even the ones that look British usually aren't. Harry Potter, James Bond or Virginia Woolf - they are all financed by Hollywood and the profits go back to the US. Meanwhile the "real" British film industry lurches from flop to financial crisis, failing to attract proper investment or decent distribution deals, unable to build the critical mass it needs for a steady stream of homegrown international successes. By comparison, UK TV looks positively blooming: well funded and with ready access to the best talent on and off screen. So does film's more successful younger sibling have a cultural duty to come to the rescue with more investment and TV exposure? The communications act now includes "feature film" in the long shopping list of public service must-haves that terrestrial broadcasters together must serve up to viewers, though it is as yet unclear whether this implies financial as well as schedule support. I hope it doesn't, because there are good reasons why television shouldn't be used to prop up a faltering domestic film industry. For a start, the success that British film has enjoyed in the past decade owes a lot to the contribution of the BBC and Channel 4. Some of the biggest commercial and critical successes - Four Weddings, Mrs Brown, Billy Elliot - were made in partnership with broadcasters. But film is the riskiest of media businesses and failures cost dear. Last year Charlotte Gray finally did for Channel 4's 20-year adventure in motion pictures. In the mid-90s, ITV made its own disastrous foray into film. Everyone remembers the Oscar-winning My Left Foot, but what about Captain Jack, Night Train, The Misadventures of Margaret, Up on the Roof and Essex Boys? They cost Granada and ITV millions to make but they are still languishing on the shelf, destined for the outer darknesses of the schedule or worse. They aren't commercial enough to go into peak-time and not distinctive enough to get decent distribution and critical attention. An expensive lesson that won't be repeated. There is no reason for the small screen to be ashamed of its own achievements. Who is to say that feature-length TV dramas such as My Beautiful Son, Bloody Sunday or Love Again aren't "British films" in their own right, just because they are made for television? Was Ray Winstone's extraordinary performance in Sexy Beast for the cinema really qualitatively different from his extraordinary performances in Tough Love or Lenny Blue on the box? Russell T Davies's The Second Coming could have been a film for the cinema but it was made for ITV1 and as a result many more people saw it. There is cultural elitism at work in any attempt to make television pay for aspiring auteurs: the assumption that, in the grand hierarchy of artistic endeavour, film is more important. Cineastes argue that TV feeds off film, relying on its output to fill schedules and its talent to make its drama, but this is wrong on both counts. The best acting talent moves effortlessly between the two. Successful film-makers like Michael Apted, Chris Menges and Stephen Frears got their start in television. Martin Walsh, Oscar-nominated for editing Chicago, was a film editor in documentaries at Granada TV in Manchester when I first met him. And, as we have seen, films are no longer the year-round mainstay they once were since the advent of pay-film channels and the rise of homemade drama in terrestrial viewers' affections. It is the strength of the UK television production sector that feeds the film industry and helps keep its talent in business, not the other way round. Where there is the promise of mutual advantage - strong TV performance and success in cinemas - it is right that UK broadcasters continue to invest in British film. But it is not their job to prop up a sector of the production industry that wouldn't otherwise wash its face. Sadly, it seems we need Hollywood more than we need Pinewood.

I happened to catch Ben Affleck being interviewed by Jay Leno last night and I was surprisingly impressed. He's very funny and apparently doesn't take himself too seriously. He read some of the worst reviews of Gigli.

I saw bits and pieces of the interview. Smart man, when faced with disaster turn it around by laughing at yourself. Fans will remember his comments longer than this disastrous film.

Um, what happened to the book page?

I will resurrect the Book topic when we have a formal discussion of the source material for future CF projects.

Oh, I forgot to write down the name of the character CF was supposed to play, and went looking for it, and it was gone! could you repost Evelyn's answer?

In Le Divorce! (sorry)

Nice to see Spring is here, considering the server is in NJ.

Maria I hope you have a great birthday today. I have tried to open the door to let other guests in, but the door is stuck, and I can't budge it.

Good backup power! We didn't miss a beat. But we had a backup Texas server ready to go online in case the E Coast server failed due to the power outage. If you want the cure for the worm, catch my comments at http://spring.net/blogger

I don't know where your server is located in NJ, but most of the state was not affected, just those areas closest to NYC.

You mean like Hoboken?

Yes, Hoboken is just across the river from NYC and was affected.

Which is why I wondered how Spring was up. ;-D

Divine intervention?;-)

(To the music of Leonard Bernstein�s Maria from West Side Story) These words are here to say Happy Birthday in my own way, Maria Others will provide, Good wishes in good time, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria Maria, Maria, Maria, I met a girl named Maria It was online at Spring For Firth we share this thing And it�s for real Maria, A fellow drooler, Maria No I didn�t forget Your birthday is your fete Go on, enjoy! Maria, Is it Robert, HD or Matthew The favorite you�d like to come home to? Maria, Maria, To whom are you true Oh Maria, Is it Darcy 1 and 2 Will Joe Prince even do For you to see? Maria, Pictures will come soon, Maria, To celebrate this date, Gifts, wishes from your mates Just for you, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria

I'm towing it to wherever you are. Happy Birthday Maria!

I read that another boy for the Firths! Mateo! congratulations! Wish I were having a boy:)

Happy Birthday, Maria! Lora you and I will have to celebrate when you come down to Miami. Enjoy the rest of your vacation.

Maria Sorry I can't post a picture of your favorite but being on vacation, too...my resources are more limited than normal. Have a great day!

Happy Birthday Maria. Vacation and Birthday, what a great time you must be having.

Maria, happy birthday to you! Enjoy your vacation and birthday. The South Florida contingent must meet for lunch when you get back so we can celebrate it!

Perhaps the South Florida contingent should invite someone else along specifically for your birthday? Or perhaps you want a solo party? Are you a sunrise person or a sunset person? He'll need to know: will it be mimosas or something else? (I vote for something else!) Have a happy birthday!

Wot? Still on vacation?!? Well...someone is here to wish you a very special... A toast! To you on your special day!! He looks a bit warm, what was he thinking wearing a reindeer jumper in August? It sure is hot in here...think maybe he needs to cool off a bit! There! Better!! And just as handsome as before, though perhaps a little less formally attired! Happy Birthday Maria!

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Maria, Hope your birthday is just as special as you are! Henry will be waiting for you when you return from your vacation, looking better than ever.

Oh! Fun in the Sun! I'd better hurry or I'll miss Maria's birthday But I'd better freshen up first That's better, now where is Maria? Wait! I know what the girl wants! Happy Birthday Maria, you sparkle like a fine champagne! And for you.......

Ah, Maria! Happy birthday! I hear you've been on vacation. I was at Margate, but had to spend all the time on the stage. Perhaps you'd care to join me there for a real holiday, and we can have a portrait session. I'm very handy with a paintbrush.

Maria, I rushed to get home in time for your birthdayparty. I hope you are still celebrating ;-) I brought a few friends: This one to say your name and whisper sweet nothings: And this guy to say "Happy Birthday, Maria" Thank you Rika, for the images, found at your Valentine-special ! And finally, roses named after you:

I just read that Dennie Gordon is directing the Olsen twins movie. Get this she went after Jack Osbourne, yes, Ozzy's son for a co-starring role. I wonder if she said the same things she said to Colin. This is too funny, or too sad.

Just a reminder... Tonight, A&E 8-11 The Mayor of Casterbridge with Ciaran Hinds. After watching the DVD of P&P, and not seeing it on A&E for awhile, the film looked a bit washed out...old, almost but still lovely.

(Linda) After watching the DVD of P&P, and not seeing it on A&E for awhile, the film looked a bit washed out...old, almost but still lovely. Still a winner....hazy or not. I never miss it when our gang is on A&E..seems disloyal not to;-)

(Linda) After watching the DVD of P&P, and not seeing it on A&E for awhile, the film looked a bit washed out...old, almost but still lovely. (Evelyn)Still a winner....hazy or not. I never miss it when our gang is on A&E..seems disloyal not to;-) My brother teased me several times for watching it on the TV with the A&E logo and the "You are watching Pride and Prejudice) and all of the mood breaking advertising on the same TV with the DVD in still it, yet I felt compelled. ;-) Some addiction there.... But, yeah, it was so, grainy compared to the DVD and I kept on noticing little bits missing.

(Ev)I never miss it when our gang is on A&E..seems disloyal not to;-) That's quite a *jones* we've got going there! LOL, I watched some of it too. I kind of liked the *sepia tonishness* of it. I'm not a neilson family but am on a dish and think that someone might be paying attention to what I'm watching so feel like it's a public service I'm doing here.;-) Nah, I love it no matter what! (Linda)Tonight, A&E 8-11 The Mayor of Casterbridge with Ciaran Hinds... I even got the DH to watch it and we both thought it was a wonderful production. He thought CH was great and I started to talk about the great job he did in Hostages. He's interested and I'll pull it out of the closet this week.;-) A prime time freebee! One of these days he's gonna see the common denominator........

Oh pooh! Hope it's fixed.

(Moon) I just read that Dennie Gordon is directing the Olsen twins movie. Get this she went after Jack Osbourne, yes, Ozzy's son for a co-starring role. I wonder if she said the same things she said to Colin. This is too funny, or too sad. I vote for too sad. Great weekend with the gang from Merryton. I even watched on the late night replay. Just love all of them. But what was most fun was knowing I was watching it along with all my friends. Was not able to watch Ciaran last night but taped it and will do so today. Can't wait to see it. Got excellent reviews from what I've read so far.

There's a discussion already under way on the Mayor of Casterbridge on Topic 5 (Ciaran Hinds): http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/5/new

Related -- Scarlett Johansson: Word Is Terrific for Coppola's 'Translation' Mon Aug 18,11:37 PM ET Add Movies - Reuters to My Yahoo! By Martin A. Grove LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - For most of the summer the honest answer to that much asked question was, "No." Then "Seabiscuit" arrived and became an instant recommendation. Now there's another terrific movie on the horizon to get excited about in Focus Features' Tokyo-set drama "Lost in Translation." Written and directed by Sofia Coppola (news) ("The Virgin Suicides") and starring Bill Murray (news) and Scarlett Johansson (news), "Translation" opens Sept. 12 in New York, Los Angeles, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, San Francisco, Seattle and Washington, D.C. It expands Sept. 19 to the Top 30 markets and widens Sept. 26 to the Top 100 markets. Murray plays Bob Harris, an American movie star in Tokyo on his own to shoot some television commercials for Suntory Whiskey, for which he's being paid handsomely. Having a lot of time on his hands between filming, Bob starts hanging out in the bar at his high-rise luxury hotel. While having a drink there one night he meets Johansson's character, Charlotte, who's married to a workaholic photographer, played by Giovanni Ribisi (news). Since Ribisi's character is always out taking photos of rock stars, Charlotte also winds up having lots of free time to fill. What happens, however, isn't the kind of movie relationship you might anticipate, but a much more interesting and surprising friendship between these two very different people, both of whom are actually a bit at sea in this very strange environment. They're really two fish out of water. It's an intriguing world that Coppola constructs in "Translation" and one that looks so different and foreign and unique compared to what we're accustomed to seeing in the U.S. "I love that about Tokyo," she observed. "There are so many places you go to and there's still something you can recognize that's familiar. There's elements of Western culture, but it's odd. It's a different version, something very foreign and weird." Shooting took place at the Park Hyatt Tokyo over a very quick 27 days, Coppola said, "and the hotel had time restraints so as not to disturb their guests. So we were like sneaking down the hallways at five in the morning (to get some extra shots in). That was fun." As for working with Murray, "He was great to work with. He worked so hard. He showed up in Tokyo. We didn't have a lot of money and there weren't any trailers or anything. He just made everyone feel (part of the team) and kind of brought everyone together and was really a good sport about it." "There was some very strict lady from the hotel, who was very serious, and her job was to chaperone us and be very strict with us. She wouldn't let us shoot in one area and he like threw her over his shoulder and spun her around. I think she was pretty startled because in Japan there's so much more formality between people working together." Reuters/Hollywood Reporter

Beatles 'Sullivan' set coming Oct. 28 By Margo Whitmire, Billboard Bulletin A new two-DVD collection, "The Ed Sullivan Show Featuring the Beatles," has been set for an Oct. 28 release. The four-hour Sofa Home Entertainment collection captures 20 live performances by the band spread over four episodes of the TV variety series "The Ed Sullivan Show." It marks the first time the performances have been available in their entirety since the episodes originally aired in 1964-65. Andrew Solt, owner of the "Ed Sullivan Show" archives and executive producer of the project, describes the first Sullivan appearance on Feb. 9, 1964, as "the seminal moment of the rock revolution. Beatlemania was born right there on that stage." The broadcast drew an estimated 73 million viewers and remains one of the highest-rated programs in U.S. TV history. Solt negotiated with Apple Corp., which oversees the Beatles' assets, for more than five years to get clearance to release the footage. Besides live performances of such No. 1 Beatles hits as "I Want To Hold Your Hand," "She Loves You," "I Feel Fine," "Help!" and "Yesterday," the DVD features appearances by Cab Calloway, Mitzi Gaynor, Soupy Sales and Frank Gorshin. The set will sell for $29.95. As previously reported, the Museum of Television & Radio in New York and Los Angeles will spotlight television's role in the Beatles rise to fame with the exhibit "Revolution: The Beatles on Television," running Feb. 6 through April 30, 2004.

(Karen's article)Andrew Solt, owner of the "Ed Sullivan Show" archives and executive producer of the project, describes the first Sullivan appearance on Feb. 9, 1964, as "the seminal moment of the rock revolution. Beatlemania was born right there on that stage." The broadcast drew an estimated 73 million viewers and remains one of the highest-rated programs in U.S. TV history. Yeah, yeah, yeah..... Good grief! I saw this in real time.:-) Almost fell out of my high chair.;-)think anyone bought that?

(and I was a mere fetus in my mother's womb, while she watched Eddie) Anybody watch Searching for Debra Winger on Showtime last night? I only saw the first hour, but plan to watch the rest next week when it is repeated. Excellent documentary about women in Hollywood. Loved when this one actress likened the situation to Revenge of the Nerds, studios controlled by guys who could never get a date in high school but are now living out all their adolescent fantasies. Roger Ebert had it all in a nutshell too.

Great news about the Beatles DVD. Will look forward to that one. I saw it in real time too. Wouldn't say that was their "birth" as they were pretty well known in Europe before that. But its great footage for us Beatlemaniacs.

Karen: I enjoyed every minute of Searching for Debra Winger. I liked best Jane Fonda's description of the almost out of body feeling when you get a shot exactly right, and how hard that makes giving up acting. Also Winger in almost everything she said - Whoppi, who is just funny. I can sympathize about her ass!! I'm not a fan of Sharon Stone, but I liked her thing about growing to the point where you can see someone else give a great performance and say "Go girl!" and really mean it. How come the two actresses (Their names escape me for the minute. One wrote the children's book when she was a youngster -- wait a minute --- Ali Sheedy!) at the Russian Tea Room weren't identified? Lots of other insightful comments.

I found it difficult to read the font used for the titling.

Go me! I met Jason Isaacs in person, and he really is the sweetest man. I didn't have him sign anything, I just wanted to ask Harry Potter related questions ;) Here are a couple of pictures: http://public.fotki.com/Charuwan/la_premiere_of_pass/mji1_2sm.html http://public.fotki.com/Charuwan/la_premiere_of_pass/mji2_sm.html So, I am ready for whenever CF and/or JN ever get to L.A. for premieres.

Nice pics, Marianne. How did you like the film? I saw a test screening of it way over a year ago.

I thought "Passionada" was very good. Light, fluffy, a solid old fashioned romance. I have to get the soundtrack, the Fado music was mesmorizing. There is a kissing scene that I found embarassingly funny in that he seems to be sucking her face. One of the ladies I attended with got teased by her boyfriend about how JI doesn't know how to kiss. She replied that he's not used to kissing women in movies, just killing people.

Nice pics, Marianne. Agree. I thought I recognize someone in the second one. ;-)

Moon Dreams: I thought I recognize someone in the second one. ;-) Nope, not me.

Was thinking of Winter.

Mayor of Casterbridge is being repeated on A&E on Friday, 22 August at 9 eastern time. next Thursday at 8 PM Eastern time. *Yeay*

Oops pic didn't make it...That's Keen Eddie..next Thursday at 8PM eastern

(Evelyn) That's Keen Eddie..next Thursday at 8PM eastern First Keen Eddie disappeared then Red Cap... was going mad from withdrawal. Thanks for KE update, Evelyun

Sorry for the typo and thanks for the pic.

Thanks, Evelyn. Have waited for the return of Keen Eddie. Nice picture, too, twice;-)

(Linda) Nice picture, too, twice;-) ROTF...the first one didn't show last night..... Scary.

The final episode of Project Greenlight should be required viewing for all Firthfans because you get the lowdown on Miramax's so-called marketing and distribution for small, niche type films, i.e., ones that are dropped into a couple of theaters in a couple of cities without any publicity and that depend on critics reviews to generate any type of audience. Then you were given Miramax's criteria for further expansion, which was a $20,000 per screen average, laughable to all concerned. Chris Moore, the producer, all but stated that no film can succeed with that type of treatment, and that's pretty much how Miramax distributed MLSF and TIOBE.

(Karen)Then you were given Miramax's criteria for further expansion, which was a $20,000 per screen average, I liked Effram's(director) remark: "We won't make that unless everyone in the audience leaves a hundred dollar bill on the seat". ....Chris Moore, the producer, all but stated that no film can succeed with that type of treatment, and that's pretty much how Miramax distributed MLSF and TIOBE. Yeah, but Chris along with Ben Affleck went to Harvey to bat for the film.[ 10 cities, instead of 2. The latter is next to "straight to video"[dumping]. Neither MLSF or TIOBE's producers got off their duff to do that. "Battle of Shaker Heights" is a coming of age movie. Doesn't even look as good as MLSF. I wouldn't go see it with a free pass. It was an excellent episode [finale].

(Evelyn) Neither MLSF or TIOBE's producers got off their duff to do that. We don't know what any of their producers did or attempted to do. Regardless, MLSF and TIOBE's producers don't have BA's clout with Miramax, and they could count on Ben doing freebie promotion on the talk show circuit.

I'm putting this here as Colin didn't actually take this. But I can completely understand why he ditched this. I'd turn and run the other way with rockets on my feet. Granted this happens on other movies, some of which make it to post-production and some that never get out of the gate to film. Maybe he had GWAPE and LA on the table and felt they were better bets. Thanks to Janet of Firthlist for passing this on. I'm posting the abridged version. Oddly enough, no mention of ODB or Daniel Craig. http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,4120,1027004,00.html Who's afraid of Sylvia Plath? The brief was tough: write a romantic Hollywood drama about mental instability and one of the most controversial literary marriages ever. But when John Brownlow's first draft got the green light, his problems were only beginning. Here he tells a true story of crashing egos, crazy deadlines and booze-fuelled, red-eyed nights working out how poets talk Friday August 22, 2003 The Guardian Gwyneth Paltrow as Sylvia Plath It's December 2002. A car picks me up from my hotel and ferries me to Shepperton studios, a place with all the charm of an abandoned mental hospital. Alison Owen, the producer of the film Sylvia, leads me down endless institutional corridors and through a huge sliding door onto the sound stage, where two huge painted cycloramas of north London parenthesise a formless wooden construction in the middle of the hangar-like space. We head up a rickety flight of stairs, pass through a wooden door, and suddenly my jaw drops open. It is as if a giant hand has reached into my brain and pulled out a place I had been imagining for the past 24 months - that I had assumed only existed in my head - and recreated it atom by atom. As we walk through the miraculously detailed set, I suddenly realise I already know what's through the door on my right: it's the kitchen were Sylvia will kill herself. A little shudder goes through me. Later that afternoon, I watch Gwyneth Paltrow, playing Sylvia Plath, sit in an armchair listening to a late Beethoven quartet contemplating the end of her relationship with Ted Hughes and, by extension, her own upcoming demise. The tears roll down her face, real tears, and I suddenly remember a line I've written for Sylvia, talking about the woman she blamed for taking Ted away from her. "I conjured her up." That's exactly how I feel. I have conjured this up. My first real break came from script competitions. I entered the Nicholl Fellowship and made it through to the last round. Without waiting to find out if I'd won (I didn't) I called an attorney in LA. On the basis of my contest result, he agreed to read my spec. He called back a week later to say it was good enough to get me an agent. All your first jobs are rewrites, and very good for you they are too. I got a job rewriting an adaptation of Northanger Abbey for Miramax, my fourth or fifth professional assignment. One day the producer, Alison Owen (who had worked on Elizabeth), mentioned to me that she was interested in making a film about Sylvia Plath. It was a project she had been thinking about for years, but the literary establishment was largely against it and many writers were reluctant to get involved. Moreover, it was a story, as Harvey Weinstein succinctly observed, that ends with a woman's head in an oven. You couldn't write your way out of that one. Then there was the problem of the poetry. The literary estates of Sylvia Plath and Ted Hughes were thought to be unlikely to co-operate with a movie, and that meant there was a risk they would not sanction the use of any of the poetry in the script. Finally, the Plathites and the Hughesites were involved in a feud of the order of Godzilla vs Mothra. Hughes was regarded by some as a murderer. Others took the view that Plath was a hysterical self-dramatist, possibly psychopathic, and vastly overrated as a poet. Whatever line it took, the film would almost certainly become the meat in a sexual/ political/ poetical sandwich. For all these reasons, it appealed to me enormously. I told Alison and the head of BBC Films, David Thompson, that I would love to do it, but that I wanted to be sure there was a story there. What I meant was that I wanted to be sure that there was a film here that was not dependent on the audience being interested in Sylvia Plath. What was this story going to be about when it was not about poetry? I re-read all the biographies and felt depressed and confused. They all told a different story, and they all seemed to take a polemical stance, pro-Plath or pro-Hughes. Hughes's own Birthday Letters told a fairly clear story, but it was cerebral, undoubtedly self-serving, and possibly unreliable. In any case, we would not be able to get the rights to it. Plath's poetry and journals told another story, but it wasn't reliable either, and again the rights problem was a brick wall. I find it helpful to have another film in mind when I start writing, even though the finished project may not resemble it in any way. In this case, my model was Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, where a couple who love one another rip themselves to pieces as others become unwitting victims in their co-dependent psychodrama. I imagined the parts in my movie being played by Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor. I even called it, in my own head, Who's Afraid of Sylvia Plath? I knew it had to be a romantic film. And because the ending was going to be gruelling and tragic, I knew the front had to be light. You had to have a reason to believe that these people were capable of happiness. And there had to be humour. I also felt that Sylvia's self-absorption needed to be tempered by a sort of gallows humour, ever present in Plath's own journals, which prevents the audience from losing sympathy with her during her bleak last days. My biggest anxiety was dialogue. I simply could not work out how I was supposed to ventriloquise conversations between two of the 20th century's greatest literary talents. Then one day I read that Hughes said he had only ever heard Plath utter a metaphor once in casual conversation. I suddenly realised that when Sylvia Plath and Ted Hughes were doing the washing up, they didn't speak in verse. From that point on, wherever possible, I cut dialogue and if I couldn't cut it I made it as banal as I could, while ensuring the situations were dramatic. It's an old trick, used to perfection by both Harold Pinter and David Mamet in their screenplays. As the dialogue is peeled back, the subtext carries the story, and the film begins to live. In Sylvia, we took pains to have Sylvia's actions make sense. We were very careful to leave the question of Ted Hughes's fidelity or infidelity open until he begins the final affair with Assia Wevill. You are never quite sure if Sylvia is paranoid to suspect him, or justified in thinking he's playing the field. Then, just as you decide that perhaps she is paranoid, he begins an affair. You are, in other words, in the same position as Sylvia, trying to figure out what's going on. We also tried very hard to let the audience in on Sylvia's particular psychodrama: her obsession with death and her father. There was nothing "mad" about this: for someone who has attempted suicide, death is a logical preoccupation. For someone who has lost their father, the desire to be reunited with him makes perfect sense. The hardest part of the script to write was the ending. We knew we had to dramatise her decision to commit suicide, and to leave her children behind. But there was a massive danger that at that point that we would lose the audience. That you would simply not understand her reasons, or think she was selfish or stupid or "mad". On the other hand, it would be irresponsible to endorse her decision to commit suicide or to shrink from portraying the devastating effect it would have on her family. The only solution was to show that Sylvia's decision to take her own life was at least understandable, even if we did not ask the audience to endorse it. The first draft took me four weeks, including a week to revise the first writer's draft. I delivered it and was astonished to learn that the producers were happy enough with it to go out to a director immediately. That was when I first encountered what I now realise is a general problem: The Curse of the Good First Draft. No producer or director or financier, or indeed writer, can ever resist the desire to make a screenplay better. And all screenplays can be improved. Unfortunately, when a script is actually working fairly well at the get-go, it is much more likely that changes will take the script backwards, and that vast amounts of pain will have to be suffered and energy expended before it gets better again. In other words, you had better start taking your vitamins. Director Pawel Pawlikowski (Last Resort) called me from his bath to tell me that he loved the script. Pawel, whom I already knew and liked and would unhesitatingly describe as a genius, was soon attached as director, and instantly brought a new sensibility to bear on the script. Pawel's favourite phrase is "Hollywood bullshit" and he swiftly identified many areas of the script he felt were cliched or rhetorical. In a series of sometimes heated but very stimulating script meetings, during which I am alleged to have thrown a script across the room, we came up with a blueprint for a new draft that involved excising large amounts of narrative. Pawel wanted to concentrate on the high dramatic points and let the audience fill in the gaps for themselves. I felt it was a high-risk move, but his vision was clear, and we all agreed it was worth trying. When the script was delivered, the reaction was negative. It had improved in some areas, but it had become depressing and fragmented, and both Alison and I felt that it was no longer the movie we had set out to make. A third draft corrected some of these problems, but I still felt, without quite being able to articulate it, that in some indefinable way the script had lost ground. Nevertheless the script went out to cast, and our spirits were enormously raised when Gwyneth Paltrow agreed to play Sylvia. Up to this point, it was still possible to think of ours as a small literary film. However, with Gwyneth on board, we were clearly in the realm of Hollywood. This was what I had always wanted for the film, but to Pawel it was troubling. He was no longer sure he was the right person to make the movie. Over beer in the pub one night, he muttered darkly about "Hollywood bullshit". I was not surprised to get a call from Alison a couple of weeks later telling me Pawel had left the production in an amicable divorce. We now had a film with an A-list star, a green-lit script, a start date that was less than three months away... and no director. A frenetic six-week hunt followed. After pursuing several blind alleys, Christine Jeffs boarded the film like the Seventh Cavalry coming over the hill. I watched her first film, Rain, which I loved, and flew to England to meet her. We hammered out the basis of a new draft, which I returned to my home in Toronto to execute, while Christine got on with casting and pre-production. All seemed to be going well until I delivered the script, at which point we had what every production has at some time or another: namely, a complete train wreck. Although the changes to the script were what we had all agreed, Christine and at least one of the film's financiers now felt that the script wasn't working. I re-read it myself, and knew in my heart they were right. It was competently executed, but the life had gone out of it. Unfortunately, I had no idea how to fix it. What followed was a nightmare that I am still not ready to describe in detail, although it will make a fine chapter in a book one day when we are all dead or past caring. Three days of sleep deprivation, plotting, politicking and group psychosis that would have awed Machiavelli miraculously produced something like a consensus. We had to go back to the first draft. There were many changes and cuts to be made, and many scenes to be meshed in that had improved in subsequent drafts, but the first draft had the tingle factor, a unity of intention and a continuity of execution, that we were missing. I would normally have scheduled four weeks for this work, but the situation was now so dire that if I did not deliver in three days a script that could be approved by producer, director, financiers and star, we would not hit the necessary milestones to make our start date, which was in turn fixed by cast availability. In other words, the production would probably fall apart. I went to my hotel room and took the phone off the hook. I typed continuously for three days and three nights. I took one hour to sleep each night and half an hour to go for a walk. I drank copiously and charged it to the financiers. I figured they owed me at least that. When I delivered, everyone pronounced themselves happy and the film moved on into production. I flew home and collapsed. Sylvia was one of those defining moments that only happen a few times in your life. That moment of walking into a set that appeared to have been plucked wholesale from my cerebellum will stay with me for ever. I'm now, at the time of writing, looking forward to my first premiere. I may even buy a second suit, rather than wearing the one I wore at my wedding. The last time I went to LA for meetings, I found myself being ushered through those studio gates that five years previously I had stared at from the outside. I still get a little thrill from driving on to the Paramount or Warner's or Universal lot. I think once you lose that thrill, it's probably time to quit the movies and become a pig farmer. Which I still might, one day. Sylvia also taught me a very important lesson, which is this: I want to direct. While I like screenwriting, and will continue to write for other people, there are some scripts that you feel so deeply that handing them over to other people is too painful. Sylvia was like that. People warned me at the beginning that I would feel this way, and I shrugged. Well, they were right. An extended version of this article will appear in the October edition of Script magazine. Sylvia is due to be released in the UK in autumn 2004

Director Pawel Pawlikowski . . . loved the script. . . and instantly brought a new sensibility to bear on the script. . .we came up with a blueprint for a new draft that involved excising large amounts of narrative. Pawel wanted to concentrate on the high dramatic points and let the audience fill in the gaps for themselves. When the script was delivered, the reaction was negative. It had improved in some areas, but it had become depressing and fragmented, and both Alison and I felt that it was no longer the movie we had set out to make. Thanks, Dorine. When Pawel left, it seems so did Colin. Yet according to this article, it was Pawel's spin on the script that proved problematic (after saying he "loved" the original--talk about Hollywood Bullshit indeed!;-). Sounds like they went back to their original vision. We'll see if it works.

When I read this excerpt last week, I thought I might want to pick up Script magazine for the complete story.

"I got a job rewriting an adaptation of Northanger Abbey for Miramax, my fourth or fifth professional assignment. One day the producer, Alison Owen (who had worked on Elizabeth),..." Right here , she lost me...I hated Northanger Abbey and it was a big $$$ loser for Miramax. Can't understand how these people keep getting jobs; with the same company, mind you. In industry if any one person lost that much money for a company they'd be out on their ass.

Take it back..it was Mansfield Park I hated. But Northanger Abbey has never been been released. Big problems. Didn't Andrew Davies do the original script. Agree with Bethan, this is one dpressing film. Nice if Colin could have snagged Proof with Gwynnie, though.

(Evelyn) But Northanger Abbey has never been been released....Didn't Andrew Davies do the original script. It was never even made and, yes, AD did the original script. I have it but haven't read it.

Thanks Dorine! Very interesting.... Unfortunately, I had no idea how to fix it. Words you probably do not want to hear from your screenwriter. I took one hour to sleep each night and half an hour to go for a walk. I drank copiously and charged it to the financiers. Now I'm really curious to see this film! Maybe he should have called up Mark Herman for some pointers on how to get this done! ;-)

Thought this might be of interest. Dyke to open up BBC archive Greg Dyke, director general of the BBC, has announced plans to give the public full access to all the corporation's programme archives. Mr Dyke said on Sunday that everyone would in future be able to download BBC radio and TV programmes from the internet. The service, the BBC Creative Archive, would be free and available to everyone, as long as they were not intending to use the material for commercial purposes, Mr Dyke added. "The BBC probably has the best television library in the world," said Mr Dyke, who was speaking at the Edinburgh TV Festival. "Up until now this huge resource has remained locked up, inaccessible to the public because there hasn't been an effective mechanism for distribution. "But the digital revolution and broadband are changing all that. "For the first time there is an easy and affordable way of making this treasure trove of BBC content available to all." He predicted that everyone would benefit from the online archive, from people accessing the internet at home, children and adults using public libraries, to students at school and university. Future focus Mr Dyke appeared at the TV festival to give the Richard Dunn interview, one of the main events of the three-day industry event. He said the new online service was part of the corporation's future, or "second phase", strategy for the development of digital technology. Mr Dyke said he believed this second phase would see a shift of emphasis by broadcasters. Their focus would move away from commercial considerations to providing "public value", he said. "I believe that we are about to move into a second phase of the digital revolution, a phase which will be more about public than private value; about free, not pay services; about inclusivity, not exclusion. "In particular, it will be about how public money can be combined with new digital technologies to transform everyone's lives."

"Mr Dyke said on Sunday that everyone would in future be able to download BBC radio and TV programmes from the internet." Colin's audio dramatizations? Whoa! I'll believe it when I see it.They're pretty tight-fisted

Dorine and Murph, thanks for the info. "Mr Dyke said on Sunday that everyone would in future be able to download BBC radio and TV programmes from the internet." (Evelyn) I'll believe it when I see it.They're pretty tight-fisted Reading the article, I wondered at what cost to the consumer. Still, it'd be nice to access the best television library in the world

Moon? Where are ya? I posted the Sylvia article with you in mind. ;-) Very cool about the BBC programs. (Sonia) I wondered at what cost to the consumer. I might consider paying a very nominal fee to get stuff if there were very good quality files. I think it would be fair of them to expect some small compensation, and would probably sell more that way than conventional sales of DVD/VHS of the same items. Thanks, Murph. An extended version of this article will appear in the October edition of Script magazine. Sylvia is due to be released in the UK in autumn 2004 Just picked up the July/Aug edition with Seabiscuit on the front on Sat night (before my late showing of Pirates of the Carribbean...which I didn't walk out on, but did doze off on in spots. ;-). Just can't *wait* to delve into the James Ivory/Le Divorce article. ;-D Re: Pirates...will chalk it up to the large glass of wine beforehand and exhaustion from moving for dozing off. It *definitely* was too long, though. I enjoyed the movie overall, especially JD and JR.

Anybody see the ending of MI-5 last night? Whoa!! That's some show. Second series starts next week one hour earlier. Big spoiler...if you haven't seen it.

Ev: I am hoping what we saw we didn't really see. But I'm afaid we did.... This show is not afraid to pull its punches. How about the scene with Tessa and Harry? Those two are good experienced actors. The "Keen guy" is back tomorrow night? Right?

Adding -- If you DON'T like to know anything ahead of time about MI-5 - don't go here!!! It is the site for the Brit original version - Spooks. http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/spooks/index.shtml

(Murph)How about the scene with Tessa and Harry? Those two are good experienced actors. Peter Firth and Jenny Agutter. Apparently both appeared in Equus. No wonder. The acting quality in this show is superb. The only weak link is the A&E editing. It had to be edited from the original BBC for commercials. Bummer. Sometimes , the viewer has to fill in the blanks. Thanks for the link, Murph. Next Tuesday it will be shown at 9 PM Eastern. Keen Eddie tomorrow night at 7 Central for me.

(Murph) How about the scene with Tessa and Harry? (Evelyn) The acting quality in this show is superb. I love this show, but it appears I've missed something. :-( Do they do multiple repeats through the week like with Queer Eye?

They will repeat the show on Saturday night/vv late Saturday night: 11pm (your time) and then at 3am. On Tuesdays, the show is broadcast twice; I taped the 1am (my time) airing.

Sorry guys, bad news regarding Keen Eddie. From Boston.com: Fox was scheduled to burn off the final four episodes of "Keen Eddie" on Thursdays, beginning tonight at 8. But, well, there are a few reality-show repeats in urgent need of airtime, and so the network has reneged on its promise for a "Keen" miniseason. "Eddie's" dead, unless some cable channel picks up the already-filmed hours. (By Matthew Gilbert)

Laura, would you please email me.

more from TVGuideonline: Matt Roush Question: I was wondering if Keen Eddie will be coming back on at all or anytime soon. I really enjoyed the show and thought it was doing well. Was there a reason it was pulled? Or will it return in the fall? � Aimee-Noel C. Matt: I'm sorry to say that it looks as if Fox has reneged on its plan to run several new episodes starting the last week of August. I just got an update indicating that, despite having scheduled some new shows, that Fox instead will be running some more despicable reality junk. I don't know if Fox will ever air the unseen episodes, but I wouldn't count on it. They seem to have given up on Eddie altogether. It wasn't doing well on Tuesdays, but it was probably a mistake to program a show this offbeat in the summer, when it had the appearance of being burned off as so many networks have done with shows in the past. On cable, it might have looked like a hit. On Fox, it was toast. And that's a real shame.

I can't remember if I closed the tag!

..."and so the network has reneged on its promise for a "Keen" miniseason." Grrrr...Pox on Fox

Sorry Evelyn! I hated breaking the news... Bill and I were awaiting tonight as well:(

(Laura) Sorry guys, bad news regarding Keen Eddie. (Evelyn) Grrrr...Pox on Fox :-( I read or heard about a cable channel that picks up shows canceled by the networks, some that never even aired past the pilot. Maybe KE will reappear there. Will keep eyes and ears open to find out more.

LONDON (Reuters) - Oscar-winner Gwyneth Paltrow (news) and British actor Joseph Fiennes (news) will recreate the famous Romeo and Juliet balcony scene for Prince Charles at a charity show, organizers said on Thursday. The co-stars of the 1998 film "Shakespeare in Love" will play the star-crossed lovers for the heir to the throne at an open-air London theater next Monday. Paltrow won an Oscar for her role as wealthy beauty Viola de Lesseps who steals the heart of Shakespeare, played by Fiennes, and helps him overcome writer's block. Among other actors performing selected Shakespeare scenes will be Paul Scofield, Diana Rigg (news) and Jane Lapotaire. Guests will pay between 20 pounds ($31.36) and 300 pounds to attend the event at Shakespeare's Globe, a replica Elizabethan theater on the south bank of the River Thames. Money raised will go to the Prince's Trust, a charity set up by Prince Charles to help disadvantaged young people.

One British writer's take on the state of rom/coms http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2003/05/10/bfrom10.xml&sSheet=/arts/2003/05/10/ixtop.html

Intersting article, Maria. Thanks.

No, the problem lies more with male actors. Few seem to want to risk playing romantic leads, No, the problem lies with the critics who trash a film and the actors before it even gets off the ground... We British can boast likely candidates. Colin Firth can play the deadpan straight man brilliantly. AKA the repressed Englishman;-) Thanks, Maria...great article Thanks, Maria great article

A friend sent me this: SHAKESPEARE STILL IN LOVE By Laura Benjamin, DAILY MAIL 2 September 2003 With eager eyes, he closes in upon his prey, as she turns away with a coy smile. In the film he got the girl. But yesterday William Shakespeare still appeared to have his work cut out in wooing Lady Viola. The delightful reprise of their 1998 pairing was given by Joseph Fiennes and Gwyneth Paltrow at the Globe Theatre in London yesterday as the stars of Shakespeare in Love were reunited for an audience in love with Shakespeare. Fiennes and Miss Paltrow, whose on- screen chemistry helped win seven Oscars for the film, were among a string of big names brought together for a charity gala in aid of the Prince's Trust. Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles were guests of honour at the event. Slipping through a side door into the recreated arena, they sat in a specially constructed royal box to watch the allstar cast deliver their favourite lines from the Bard's repertoire. Camilla, dressed in a stylish cream suit, sat one seat away from Charles, with a woman believed to be an official of the Prince's Trust between them. But the high-profile appearance was seen as another step along the road to public acceptance for Camilla. 'She was greeted very warmly by the crowd and both of them appeared to enjoy every minute,' said an observer. While Miss Paltrow, who attended with her rock star boyfriend, Coldplay star Chris Martin, played it for laughs with Fiennes during rehearsals, they took their performance rather more seriously, each delivering a speech from Romeo and Juliet, which featured heavily in the film. Other contributors were Dame Diana Rigg, Paul Scofield, Timothy West and Michael Pennington. Scofield and West presented an excerpt from The Tempest while Dame Diana performed a speech from As You Like It. A source close to the production said: 'Getting a lineup like this on stage together is a real coup. But even with such a cast Gwyneth and Joseph still managed to steal the show.'

They showed Gwynnie and Joe meeting Prince Charles on ET or or one of the shows. The balcony scene being rehearsed in two locations is one of my favorites from the movie, especially with the parts reversed. Somehow the lines are better that way, ok, maybe just one or two. ;-D

The Guardian: http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,4120,1034244,00.html Nothing to lose but your audience Why is British cinema so consistently obsessed with the subject of social class? Sean Clarke investigates Tuesday September 2, 2003 Georges Polti, following Goethe, maintained there were only 36 dramatic situations, and that all storylines were reworkings of them. It's clear that few people in the British film industry have got very far into Polti's book, because time and time again we find that British films admit of only two plotlines. They are: 1. It's really terrifically brutish being working class 2. It's really terrifically spiffing to be middle class Take the two current British releases. Calendar Girls is the heartwarming tale of how supportive and daring some nice middle class ladies can be (hurrah!), while Blackball relates how a nasty common chap gets too big for his boots (boo!) and gets taught his place (hurrah!). The two films are even written by the same man, Tim Firth. One obvious reason why producers stay faithful to this formula is its success; as a wander through the history of recent British cinema will show. Four Weddings and a Funeral (it's really spiffing down south), Trainspotting (it's really quite grim in Scotland - see also Sweet Sixteen, Young Adam ...), Harry Potter (it's really quite boffo at public school), Notting Hill (it's great being middle class in west London), Pure (but it's not so nice being poor in east London). Admittedly the last one didn't sell so well, but you get a feel for why it got backed at all. Again and again, British audiences lap up these two opposing conceptions of our national life. It's as if we can only conceive of ourselves as posh people - who are generally happy, if a little endearingly confused - or vile, wretched commoners. The worst synthesis of this is perhaps Billy Elliot, about a poor boy's struggle to become middle class, which will make him happy. But even a marvellous film like Bridget Jones's Diary is complicit; posh people can be bounders, but they're terribly attractive, and oh if only Bridget could get to grips with how terribly difficult it is to be properly posh and snare herself a barrister (not an oily foreigner like her mum did), then she too could be happy. There are many honourable exceptions; Secrets and Lies, Dirty Pretty Things, Bend It Like Beckham, Human Traffic; all very different films, but none of them infected with this patronising view that we're all either brutish pond life stabbing each other in the back, or bumbling toffs trying to get on and get married off. But somehow these movies - successful as they may be - rarely get elected as "event movies". The worst thing about all this is knowing that it's not going to get any better. The big, big British film of the winter is going to be Love, Actually, a script by Richard Curtis (Four Weddings, Notting Hill ...), starring Hugh Grant (Four Weddings, Notting Hill) as a posh man (Four Weddings, Notting Hill) in a romantic predicament (Four Weddings, Notting Hill). Specifically, Hugh is the prime minister, and he fancies his tea lady. Quite apart from whether or not this makes any sense in modern Britain (surely Downing Street catering services have been outsourced as part of a best value initiative?), is this the best we can do in the 21st century? Prince marries scullery lass? You may say I have a chip on shoulder, that I'm a joyless curmudgeon. You may point to the merrily ringing tills as first Calendar Girls and then Love, Actually are taken to the bosoms of the great British public. And if you're a film producer, you're almost certainly best advised to ignore this rant. But it's a lonely business being right in a world where everyone else is wrong.

You may say I have a chip on shoulder, that I'm a joyless curmudgeon. But it's a lonely business being right in a world where everyone else is wrong. *clap clap* I couldn't agree more!

Thanks to a freind -- BBC Press Release (Hope this makes it to the USA): Pepys, an intimate portrait of the great diarist, naval strategist and adulterer, starts filming for BBC TWO Steve Coogan plays Samuel Pepys, naval strategist and serial adulterer, in the first major television portrayal of Pepys's life. Film director Oliver Parker and writer Guy Jenkin bring to the screen a darkly comic vision of the genius behind the famous diaries. "I have a real affection for Pepys," says Steve Coogan. "He was flawed, offensive, funny and principled all at the same time. "Guy Jenkin's brilliant script really crystallises the character of the time. It feels contemporary and reads unlike a typical costume drama." "We needed a stellar talent to make the role his own, and Steve Coogan is the perfect Pepys," says Jane Tranter, Controller of Drama Commissioning. "He will bring intelligence and charisma to the role and Guy Jenkin's script is clever, and by turns funny and moving. "It brings out the modernity of Pepys the man and the dilemmas through which he has to navigate if he is to survive and prosper." Lou Doillon (a household name in France and sister of Charlotte Gainsbourg) plays Pepys's French wife Elizabeth; Tim Pigott-Smith, his arch-enemy Lord Shaftesbury; Danny Webb plays Pepys's employer Edward Montagu; and Nathaniel Parker is Charles II. Zo� Tapper, Sally Rogers and Miranda Raison are Pepys's mistresses and Ciaran McMenamin is his manservant, Will. "Samuel Pepys was a man driven by lust, riven by guilt," says producer Ben McPherson. "Pepys is a portrait of the private man, his relationship with his wife and his many infidelities. "We have what every production hopes for: a cast that combines established world-class actors with some very exciting new talent, a beautifully-judged script from Guy, and a director of great vision, wit and humanity in Oliver." "Guy's script leapt from the page," says director Oliver Parker. "It bristles with energy and sparkles with variety. It is, all at once visceral and irreverent, tender and excruciatingly funny. "Steve's work is always mesmerising. He's uncompromising in his pursuit of the darker side of his characters while at the same time forcing us to empathise with them. "The prospect of his Pepys is exhilarating: Pepys is one of history's great observers, and Steve is one of today's." The film is a unique collaboration between the BBC's Drama, Arts and Entertainment departments. Filming begins at the end of August at Dorney Court, Windsor. Pepys is written by Guy Jenkin (Jeffrey Archer: the Truth, Drop the Dead Donkey), produced by Ben McPherson (Omnibus, Meades Eats, Britain's Best Buildings) and directed by Oliver Parker (The Important of Being Earnest, An Ideal Husband, Othello). It is made in Association with Steve Coogan, Henry Normal and their production company Baby Cow. The executive producers for the BBC are Mike Dormer (Drama), David Okuefuna (Arts) and Mark Freeland (Entertainment) and for Baby Cow, Steve Coogan and Henry Normal. Pepys is part of BBC TWO's commitment to the arts and complements two other dramas celebrating the lives of some of Britain's foremost writers: Nick Dear's drama about Byron, starring Jonny Lee Miller in the title role, is to be shown in September and Larkin: Love Again, a film by Richard Cottan about the life of poet Philip Larkin starring Hugh Bonneville was shown in July

Okay, this odds & ends thing has been lacking in spark! Anyone think Scarlett Johanssen looks EXACTLY like the Vermeer Girl when she's (Johanssen) is all made up???? Gonna try to see GWAPE in NH...

Recommended movie: Under the Tuscan Sun. v.g. Diane Lane is so credible an actress, unlike so many others. BTW, I did peruse the entire article from the screenwriter for the Sylvia Plath movie in Script magazine. Nothing about casting the male lead at all.

Thanks for posting about the SP movie article. Got it a few days ago and forgot what we were on the lookout for from the discussion about it. Will look out for Under the Tuscan Sun. I recommend Thirteen (glad I'm not a parent) and Matchstick Men. MM is WAGW with a neurotic con artist dad and more worldly daughter. Loved NC and Alison Lohman together. NC was excellent throughout. SR v. good also, but not as much to work with. Next week...Veronica Guerin (intro by Cate Blanchett and Jerry Bruckheimer) and Lost in Translation (possibly short Q&A or intro by Sofia Coppola).

I recommend Thirteen (glad I'm not a parent) ] great! (I am a parent of a 13 year old!), it's been recommended that teens see it. What did you think? I skeptical. NBC's Today Show did Fall preview of new movies and Under the Tuscan Sun was highly recommended as was Sofia Coppola's Lost in Translation. The reviewer said that Coppola's movie would make her a bona fide tried but true good director.

I generally speak better English than that. I'm skeptical! :)

The LA Bafta thing honoring Huge is Nov 8 at the Century Plaza Hotel. I'd say there would be a screening around then, with Huge and RC and whoever else...

Am I the only one who did a big "HUH?" when this BAFTA "Lifetime Excellence Achievement Whatever Thingy" with Huge was announced? Okay, Michael Caine has done some real stinkers in his career, but they are balanced by a number of films such as Cider House Rules and The Quiet American. Granted, HG has a few credible rom-coms under his belt, but even with About a Boy on his creds, that only makes it one in a row.

...but he's probably the biggest British star there is. Why wouldn't they honor him? This is an industry association, not a critics group. ;-D

And they televise it. A big audience draw no doubt - I'd watch, Huge is usually a hoot. I always heard the BAFTAs as the British Academy Awards, so this news sent me wunderin' if they are more the English Peoples' Choice Awards. I see it's a case of "the industry" wanting to pay back one of their more reliable cash cows.

(Karen)...but he's probably the biggest British star there is.... ���������������

Just in case I didn't close it....

(Louise) so this news sent me wunderin' if they are more the English Peoples' Choice Awards There is an award like that given at the Baftas, where the people vote, but this event honoring Huge isn't the actual Bafta award ceremony, which will be just prior to the Oscars next year. The Baftas have changed radically IMO over the past several years as they've attempted to become more "relevant." It used to be that the Baftas were held after the Oscars and pretty much only recognized British films and people, fairly unknown to an American audience. Now with their intent clear, they've had to shift gears and pander to the US industry by not only nominating Hollywood actors but also rewarding them for crossing the pond. But Huge's gala event has nothing to do with this.

From the NYT Crib Sheet of movies to see: "Under the Tuscan Sun," a sort of "Enchanted April" without the costumes, by the food writer Frances Mayes, who buys a tumbledown villa and brag-complains about it. (Sept. 26.) LOL! That's exactly how I described it to someone. An Enchanted April with an American. ;-D

Here is the trailer for Sylvia -- That awful wig on one of my favs, Daniel Craig! http://www.moviefone.com/multimedia/sneakpeek.adp

FYI, Colin's brother is on this week's Inspector Lynley Mystery.

along with Stringer Bell. ;-D (I had no idea he was British!)

(Me) Colin's brother is on this week's Inspector Lynley Mystery Anyone think he's starting to resemble and sound a bit like Robin Gibb? ;-)

(Dorine)Anyone think he's starting to resemble and sound a bit like Robin Gibb? ;-) LOL, but his hands-especially the thumbs look exactly like Colin's. IMHO, of course.

(Linda) ..his hands-especially the thumbs look exactly like Colin's. IMHO, of course. LOL and how warped is it that you even noticed and that we understand?

I like the way Jon has grown into his looks. He has a much more interesting face now, and, to me, is more handsome than when younger. I thought he did a good job - as did first degree-er Julian Wadham. (Tim Piggott Smith next week) The actress who played Lynley's Helen, Lesley Vickerage, gave a good performance in Second Sight (The Kingdom of the Blind) as a treacherous detective. Linda - In addition to the thumbs - the walk! Striding, feet out. Just finished Elizabeth George's newest - "A Place of Hiding." No Lynley, but plenty of Simon St. James and his wife (and old Lynley love) Deborah - and the Island of Guernsey. [For another great mystery set in the Guernsey Islands, read "Lying With The Enemy" by Tim Binding]

(Murph) as did first degree-er Julian Wadham I was going to comment last night, I didn't think he has aged very well. Much better looking in TEP.

ATTN: The Queer Eye guys are going to be on Oprah tomorrow.

Sorry, bad info. The show is being taped today, not aired.

Happy birthday Hugh Grant!

Too bad Oprah overlaps with Access Hollywood.

Let me chime in with Moon and say "happy Birthday Huge!" After all, without him, we there would be no fight scene in BJD. ;-) And how could one not like someone with the middle name Mungo?

I am glad for her, I just wish this "other" movie didn't have to be released at the same time and garnering more attention...(moping away) http://www.msnbc.com/news/962293.asp?cp1=1

From THR: Miranda Richardson, Minnie Driver, Ciaran Hinds, Simon Callow, James Fleet, Victor McGuire and Jennifer Ellison round out the cast for "The Phantom of the Opera," the film's producers said Tuesday. The movie, directed by Joel Schumacher and based on Andrew Lloyd Webber's worldwide musical hit of the same name, begins shooting Sept. 15 at Pinewood Studios in the U.K. for 16 weeks. The movie stars Gerard Butler, Emmy Rossum and Patrick Wilson. Warner Bros. will distribute the title in North America while Entertainment Films has U.K. rights.

Thanks for Phantom info Karen. This seems to be a good casting. Will look forward to its release as I love the book and play.

Monty Python Musical Planned for Broadway NEW YORK - Get ready for a Monty Python musical, directed by Mike Nichols, on Broadway. A stage version of the movie "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" will open in New York in the spring of 2005. Its tentative title is "Spamalot" but don't hold the troupe to that moniker. "I like the title `Spamalot,'" Python member Eric Idle said Thursday in a statement. "But I was thinking it might be smart to ask audiences on my upcoming U.S. tour if they liked it as much as I do. After all, they are the ones who will be paying Broadway prices to see the show." Idle wrote the book for "Spamalot," which is based on material from the film created by Idle, Graham Chapman, John Cleese, Terry Gilliam, Terry Jones and Michael Palin. The stage version will also have music and lyrics by Idle and John Du Prez. Casting has not been set but the choreography will be by Jerry Mitchell, who created the dances for "Hairspray" and the upcoming "Never Gonna Dance." The Python troupe, a group of British performers, starred in the television series "Monty Python's Flying Circus," which ran on the BBC from 1969 through 1974 and also had a long run on American public television.

A stage version of the movie "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" will open in New York in the spring of 2005 I'm SOOOOO there! LOL! Especially if they have the Knights who say "Ni"! A couple of film recommendations from me....which, of course, means virtually nothing, LOL. Veronica Guerin (opens in Oct?)....excellent! Very engrossing. Cate Blanchett was v.v. good. Also liked Ciaran Hinds as the charming criminal she uses as a source. A spat of nasty violence at the very beginning. A couple of other brief spots of violence in the middle. One you kinda see coming, the other wholly unexpected (that one made the audience gasp). A bit tearjerking in the end. First time that I can recall no one jumping out of their seats as soon as the screening was over. Credits about halfway through before anyone left. Cate Blanchett and Jerry Bruckheimer introduced. Not sure the point to these. They speak for maybe 1-2 minutes, then they're gone. She has such an....odd beauty. She has a much wider face than I've perceived onscreen. She's got facial skin like porcelain, though. Next up...Lost in Translation (opens today, I think). First let me say, "Wow" about Bill Murray. What a fantastically understated performance. But still funny. They were both (he and SJ) understated really, and both excellent. There's a sequence in the middle I would've liked somewhat shorter. I found it necessary, but not quite so drawn out. Sophia Coppola has a very interesting "eye". I think I responded to it so much as a couple of themes struck a chord with me personally, and I could relate rather easily to a few things. And the last 5-8 minutes was the payoff for me...ambiguous, bittersweet, a tad heartbreaking, yet kind of happy in a way, too. How you react to the film and the end will depend on your view of certain themes. I think I may need to see it again sometime. I've read a lot about this movie recently and how they say this movie realizes her potential from The Virgin Suicides. Might check that out now, though I had no interest before. Sofia Coppola there for all of 60 secs or so to introduce. She is extremely waiflike, or at least v. thin and exceedingly soft spoken. We weren't in a big room, and her voice was barely carrying to the second row. She still had a hard time projecting after someone asked her to speak up. Anyone read the NY Times Mag article about her a couple of weeks ago? The actors say she can be very quietly forceful about what she wants you to do. Interesting to read in light of her demeanor at the screening.

Thanks, Dorine, I intend to see both movies, despite the fact that Bill Murray is in the latter. Ever since I saw his face up close and personal I really haven't been able to look at him. Sofia is also profiled in Time Magazine this week. Let me add The Other Side of the Bed to a list of fun movies to see. It's like a French sex farce, but is Spanish and is a musical and the musical numbers really work and are worth seeing. Quite a bit of the choreography reminds me of Jerome Robbins, with its underlying roots in ballet. Initially, I was ticked by the movie's portrayal of women (so obviously written by men) that I nearly got up and left, but it finally won me over. Though many things will be familiar and predictable, it had its fun moments and there were lots of laughs from men.

(Karen) Ever since I saw his face up close and personal I really haven't been able to look at him. I kept focusing on how much weight he's apparently lost. First noticed it on pics from one of those festivals...Venice? The one where SJ wore the lovely pink sneakers. He must have lost it a while ago as the movie was filmed a year ago and I haven't seen him recently. And thanks for your recommendation, too.

The NY Times Op Ed Page - I laughed out loud at this one: September 13, 2003 - Moli�re, Corneille, Rumsfeld - By DANIEL MENDELSOHN Last week's revelation by a French scholar that all of the masterpieces attributed to the great comic playwright Moli�re, including classics like "Tartuffe" and "Le Misanthrope," were actually written by his rival, Pierre Corneille, has provoked shock and dismay throughout the world of letters. Now, a tortured conscience and a desire to further clear the literary air compel me to reveal that nearly all of my own published writings � including, but by no means limited to, my 1999 memoir about gay culture and my recent monograph on the role of gender in Euripidean drama � were, in fact, written by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. At first glance, the gap that separates Mr. Rumsfeld and myself seems even vaster than the one that sets the comedian Moli�re apart from the tragedian Corneille. The secretary, for instance, attended Princeton for a mere four years as an undergraduate, whereas I spent eight years there as a graduate student; and whereas he was a famous wrestler during college, impressing fans with his determination on the mats, my own wrestling matches with Old Nassau's varsity athletes took place under other circumstances. Moreover, I shave my head, whereas Mr. Rumsfeld favors a more natural, softer look. Yet despite differences in temperament and outlook that to some might make the idea of the longtime literary collaboration between Mr. Rumsfeld and myself seem improbable, our respective audiences � in his case, the millions who read his words as reported in newspapers around the globe; in mine, the regular readers of Die Zeitschrift f�r Papyrologie und Epigraphik � are likely to be persuaded by the techniques of literary sleuthing recently used in Paris. Dominique Labb�, the statistician responsible for this latest tussle over the authorship of canonical works, came to his conclusion after finding that certain works by Moli�re and Corneille share 75 percent of their vocabulary. Even a cursory comparison of the public utterances of Donald Rumsfeld with those of "Daniel Mendelsohn" suggests that the percentage is, if anything, higher in our case. Of particular note is a suspicious shared tendency to use "with," "the" and "my upcoming trip to Israel." The implications are plain: the same distinctive intellect is responsible for the rhetoric of both "Rumsfeld" and "Mendelsohn." Indeed, both the defense secretary and the classicist-cum-freelance-writer have been heard repeatedly using certain other key words and phrases � "American military presence in Iraq," "war of liberation," "Bush" � lately, although, with dramatically different tones of authorial voice, depending on whether the secretary is speaking in his public persona or as "Mendelsohn." Why would the secretary want to perpetrate such a hoax, one so easily exposed? The same question has been asked of Corneille � and the same answer applies. The popular Moli�re was, we now know, merely a front for the highbrow Corneille, who was hungry for the money generated by the vulgar genre of comedy. Without betraying certain confidences, I can say that Mr. Rumsfeld has long eyed my tax returns � particularly the fiscal year in which my article about the role of maternal anxiety in the Achilleid of P. Papinius Statius was published. Furthermore, it is known that Moli�re reveled in "cuckolded husbands and lascivious priests," while Corneille admired "historical heroes and high-strung sentiment." Here, one need only to consult F. Z., a psychotherapist on the Upper West Side, and to attend Mr. Rumsfeld's news conferences, to make the obvious connections. Mr. Labb�'s claims about the authorship of Moli�re's work has been seen by some as tantamount to debunking national myth: as one American expert pointed out, "Moli�re is the so-called greatest author of the French tradition, so there are significant stakes if you undermine that." Modesty prevents me from remarking on the obvious similarities between my 17th-century predecessor and myself. Suffice it to say that, however irreparable the damage to my literary reputation, the benefits to my collaborator � and to my country � will render the sacrifice I am making today worthwhile. No longer will Donald Rumsfeld have to hide, for reasons of privacy and pecuniary need, in my shadow. ...Daniel Mendelsohn, a lecturer in classics at Princeton, is author of the memoir "The Elusive Embrace: Desire and the Riddle of Identity.''

I saw Emmy Rossum mentioned above in Phantom of the Opera. She was so lovely in Songcatcher in a brief role - has an angel's singing voice - and we will see more of her in Mystic River as Sean Penn's daughter.

She's also in Passionada.

(Murph) The NY Times Op Ed Page - I laughed out loud at this one Loved it, Murph. Thanks for the laughs.

And in the all-important Monday afternoon QBing of last night's SATC, Misha's still got it. :-)

Oooh baby, does he ever. :-D Thought he looked better than he has in years, actually.

Sorry, Misha is old and he's short, two things I cannot abide in a love interest.;-) Loved the Bozo the bush bit, was ROTF. And got rather choked up when Miranda and Steve got back together.

I don't mind short (how - short - is - he? ;-)), so am I, more or less. :-) If he's at least a bit taller than Michael J. Fox, that's great! Don't mind old either. Love Harrison Ford, Sean Connery. If Colin ages half as well as he has so far, I'll love him, too. ;-D choked up when Miranda and Steve got back together. I could never get attached to Steve as a love interest for her...or anyone else either. Really liked that other guy (Blair Underwood who's character name escapes me). Charlotte's miscarriage broke me up. :-(

Oh, and Misha's hair looked great! Always a plus in a love interest. ;-)

(Mari) Sorry, Misha is old and he's short, two things I cannot abide in a love interest.;-) Hey, I'm shorter than he is, so what do I care. Besides, in his prime, he could've lifted both of us. The man had a bod! Did you see him jump in this one? Not old. Not old at all. (I'd rather watch this short cutie than tall, flabby Aidan any day) Besides, his acting in this episode was better than [cough] some I've seen lately. ;-) Just so natural. Incredible. Bozo the Bush was hysterically funny and Carrie's reaction in the bathroom had me LOL. (Dorine) Charlotte's miscarriage broke me up. :-( But her transformation into Elizabeth Taylor was brilliant and heartwarming.

I LOVE Smith! He wouldn't care about a few grey hairs on Samantha anywhere. His comments and the hand-holding bit last week was tops for me. I think making him more than a hunky boy-toy was a great plot idea. Wonder if they will ever utter the dread "I love you" words. Thought this week was grand on all counts. Misha old and short is fine with me. It will be interesting to see if they get some depth in Carrie's relationship with him. Steve and Miranda? I expected it, but I wonder how long that will last? He is such a sweet kind of duffus - and she is so smart. Charlotte getting inspiration from Elizabeth Taylor? Priceless.

Thought this was worth repeating - From an interview at Ninemsn.au with Germaine Greer. She is always interesting, to say the least: ************************************ JANA WENDT: ..it's a big idea, I have to ask you about another idea, your forthcoming book on boys. I have to ask � what's the attraction? GERMAINE GREER: You better read the book, girl. You've read this one. JANA WENDT: I'd love to, I'd love to. I haven't seen the book but what is the attraction? GERMAINE GREER: You'll see when you see the book. JANA WENDT: OK... GERMAINE GREER: There's 200 illustrations. It's there for all to see. JANA WENDT: But are we talking post-pubescent boys and admiring their form, is that what we're talking about? GERMAINE GREER: We're talking about the fact that there is a time in a man's life when he is not yet a man and not still a child, where he maybe more likely than any other time at his life, he may be very, very beautiful. If you look at Russell Crowe today, can you remember what he looked like when he was 18? He was gorgeous. JANA WENDT: So you prefer the 18-year-old Russell Crowe? GERMAINE GREER: I think so. And I think any woman of taste would prefer the 18-year-old Russell Crowe. JANA WENDT: But what is the attraction in this for Dr Greer? GERMAINE GREER: Nothing. I mean, nothing more than anything else. Nothing more than the attraction in my rainforest, which is costing me a good deal more blood, sweat and tears than writing the boy book ever did. I mean, you have to be blind not to see that Western art is not predicated on the female nude, it's predicated on the male nude, the nude beardless male. Beardy nude males aren't nearly as cute. JANA WENDT: Is that so? GERMAINE GREER: Definitely. JANA WENDT: When I asked you before what Australians make of you, is this what appears to be wild swinging from a lofty topic like an Aboriginal Republic to boys that sometimes puzzles people? GERMAINE GREER: Well, the boy book is just quite as lofty a topic, really. It's not actually about perving on boys. This is the Australian spin on it. Again, you know, don't present people with an idea in Australia because they'll just stand on it. So if they want to talk about Germaine Greer's collection of boy pictures they can go right ahead. They happen to be in the greatest art galleries in the world. I don't own any of them. JANA WENDT: So this is a study in aesthetics more than eye candy? GERMAINE GREER: What's the difference between aesthetics and eye candy? JANA WENDT: You tell me, is there no difference? GERMAINE GREER: Well, if you talk eye candy, you see, you're not talking about something you're going to debauch or abuse. You're talking about looking at something beautiful and saying how beautiful. I think it's a shame that we don't � well, D.H. Lawrence said it before me, why do men wear those awful clothes? Why can't they dress as once they did with, you know, one leg red and one leg green and a little nipped in jacket with a little skirt and big broad shoulders and a little hat cocked on the side of their head. Whatever happened to the beautiful page boys that thronged the streets? Where did they go? They're all slouching around in trousers eight sizes too big with baseball caps on backwards because they're so anxious not to be thought of as beautiful but ever mother knows that her son is beautiful. JANA WENDT: So bring back the page boys and... GERMAINE GREER: No, no, I'm not telling people what to do. They can do whatever they like. I'm just pointing out to them something that is already there. I mean, women have � women are going and watching the Chippendales and sticking $10 bills in their G-strings. All right girls, you've got eyes, Now can we show you something really beautiful? Forget the Chippendales � vulgar, pumped up and completely commercial � look at something truly, truly beautiful. Look at the unconscious beauty of a 16-year-old boy. It doesn't mean you're going to rip his pants off or penetrate his bodily orifices. You paint still life without being hungry. JANA WENDT: Germaine Greer, thank you very much. ********************* Wonder if she has Colin at 18 in the book? He was beautiful. http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/political_transcripts/article_1374.asp

(Dorine)Really liked that other guy (Blair Underwood who's character name escapes me). The doctor for the basket ball team...yeah, me too. What a smile.I fear we won't see him again. He's gone along with David Duchovny. Old Misha should hang it up.He can dance,[now does choreography] but he can't act. And he's got bigger eye bags than Jim Lehrer. (Karen)But her transformation into Elizabeth Taylor was brilliant and heartwarming. Charlotte was *the* star of this episode. Carrie is starting to get on my nerves.

Lion In Winter -- One of my favorite films - and a one degree of Colin - John Castle as Geoffrey: ****************************** Beginning sooner -- Sept. 22, to be exact -- the New York branch of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences starts its this-I-also-gotta-see series of Monday night retrospective screenings of Oscar-winning and -nominated films, such as "Carmen Jones," "The Hustler," "On the Waterfront" and "Roman Holiday," many of which are rarely available for viewing in these parts in their original big-screen supersize dimensions. Up first: 1968's "The Lion in Winter," which earned Katharine Hepburn (news) her third (of an eventual four) Academy Awards (news - web sites) as best actress, along with prizes for James Goldman's screenplay and John Barry's music score. It also garnered nominations for best picture, best actor (Peter O'Toole (news)), best costume design (Margaret Furse) and best director (Anthony Harvey), and it'll be Harvey who'll introduce the film at the Academy's state-of-the-art New York screening room at Lighthouse International (Park Avenue & 59th). On the phone from the Hamptons, Harvey said he was looking forward to seeing "Lion" again, "something I haven't done in the 35 years since we made it." He also says it was O'Toole who instigated the whole project. "It was strictly due to Peter that I became involved. I'd been a film editor ("Lolita," "Dr. Strangelove"), but at that point, I'd only directed one film, 'Dutchman.' Peter saw it, liked it and took a print of it to L.A. and showed it to Kate. She looked at it and said, 'I don't know what this has to do with 'The Lion in Winter,' but if you trust him...' At that point, Peter and I hadn't even met." (Hepburn later had Harvey direct her in three more projects, the theatrical feature "The Ultimate Solution of Grace Quigley" and two television projects, "The Glass Menagerie" and "This Can't Be Love.") Added Harvey: "Working with Kate and Peter was like being part of a big, close-knit family. Kate was extremely vulnerable because Spencer Tracy (news) had just died, but she made everyone feel very secure and she was wonderful with the young actors. She and Peter liked to needle each other. She called him 'Pig' and he called her 'Nag,' but it was obvious they were very fond of each other. It was a most rewarding experience for all of us." Reuters/Hollywood Reporter

Another one degree of Colin: ~~~~~~~~~` From Playbill: Caldwell, Harris, Parsons and Saint to Be Part of Kennedy Center's Williams Celebration By Andrew Gans 16 Sep 2003 Four leading actresses will help kick off the Kennedy Center's Tennessee Williams' celebration ? Tennessee Williams Explored ? in April. The Washington Post reports that Zoe Caldwell, Rosemary Harris, Estelle Parsons and Eva Marie Saint will take part in a symposium at the Kennedy Center on April 12. Moderated by CBS's Charles Osgood, the evening will allow the actresses to recall their work in Williams' productions as well as their encounters with the playwright himself. .....Rosemary Harris starred as Blanche Du Bois in Lincoln Center's 1973 revival of A Streetcar Named Desire. Harris has been nominated for nine Tonys; she won for her first nomination, 1966's The Lion in Winter. Tickets for Tennessee Williams Explored will go on sale Feb. 7. For more information, visit www.kennedy-center.org."

(Murphy)Wonder if she has Colin at 18 in the book? He was beautiful. Still drooling over that thought... ;-)

LA: The prime minister has a sister, Karen�played by Emma Thompson�and she is married to Alan Rickman's character Harry to provide love match two. Harry is relentlessly pursued by an office temptress played by German beauty Heike Makatsch, which makes love match three. ******************************** Makatsch is Daniel Craig's long time girl friend. This is her breakthough in English cinema. She is supposedly a star in Germany. Craig is also now filming with another LA person - Bill Nighy - in Ian McEwan's "Enduring Love," co-starring Samantha Morton.

Another mention of Sylvia, from the former director: Last Resort's success earned him a much bigger gig, when he was hired as director of the Sylvia Plath biopic. But, as scriptwriter John Brownlow related in the Guardian last month, Pawlikowski left the production after a number of script rewrites and the arrival of Gwyneth Paltrow as its star. Always a diplomat, Pawlikowski's only remark is that he doesn't think he ever used the phrase "Hollywood bullshit" that Brownlow ascribed to him. Nevertheless, My Summer of Love appears, then, to be a return to the basics that served Pawlikowski so well for Last Resort. http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,4120,1044957,00.html

(Moon)Went to see Lost in Translation.. And? I would be v. interested in your opinion given that there has been *bundeling* between it and SJ's portrayal in GWAPE.

Yes, I wanted to know what you thought, too.

I got more than a chuckle out of this 'Letter to the Editor' from this morning's NY Times Arts section. I posted the original article on Sept. 7th about SJ's remarks concerning older men;-) I'm posting this here, but the original post from the article this woman is referring to was on topic 176 because it was news from TFF. Scarlett Johansson: What Goes Around To the Editor: How fortunate we are to have Scarlett Johannson around to dispense such pearls of wisdom ("Scarlett Johansson, Indie Ingenue and Expert Lolita" by Virginia Heffernan, Sept. 7) Not only does Ms. Johansson, at 18, have the experience and sagacity to declare that women die inside when they get to menopause, but she also fully understands older men's psyches and is only to happy to help a few of them over that middle-age bridge. I can only hope some of her hubris will be toned down in 20 years or so. But not to worry: I am sure there will be someone just like her to help her significant other over that bridge, while she is out getting Botox treatments to erase the flaws she so desperately wants to avoid. (ed. note) I don't know whether or not to say Ouch or Meow;-)

Not only does Ms. Johansson, at 18, have the experience and sagacity to declare that women die inside when they get to menopause... LOL!!! Does that child have alot to learn!! Though it was early and due to surgery, I for one really started to live......and vacation with greater ease!! (Linda)(ed. note) I don't know whether or not to say Ouch or Meow;-) I'll just say *right on sister*.;-)

Excellent! I imagine Scarlett thought she knew all about life, older men, etc., 'cause Sofia had to explain the plot and characters to her. ;-)

***Spoilers*** (Moon)Went to see Lost in Translation.. (Beedee), And? I would be v. interested in your opinion given that there has been *bundeling* between it and SJ's portrayal in GWAPE. I liked it. Bill Murray was so good and so funny. He made the film for me not Scarlett. I don't think her performance is Oscar worthy in this, his yes. I've been thinking about why all the critics are praising this film. It is because they are no longer used to getting films such as "La Dolce Vita" which they watch together in the hotel. Nice of Sofia to make a reference there. But that's when you see what a great film is all about. I got the feeling that Sofia Coppola was also after a bit of "Hiroshima Mon Amour" and if I were teaching a film criticism class, I would certainly bring this up. Another reason this film has surprised the critics, especially at the Venice FF, where they loved it, was because they are not used to seeing a film in which two people with a mutual attraction, do not consumate the relationship. That must have shocked all the critics. All in all, I would much rather see films like this one than the crap that is usually produced. Dorine, I would be interested in knowing what he whispered in her ear at the end. Did Sofia say anything when she presented it? What do you think? Also, Scarlett was, it seemed jealous when he slept with the singer. Do you think she would have slept with him? Tonight, I'm going to see Woody Allen's movie. "American Splendor" I found quite original and that's very rare now.

Thanks for the review and especially the insights Moon. These were just the points I was interested in.:-))

SPOILERS...... Moon says: Dorine, I would be interested in knowing what he whispered in her ear at the end. Did Sofia say anything when she presented it? What do you think? Also, Scarlett was, it seemed jealous when he slept with the singer. Do you think she would have slept with him? ************************ Just got back from seeing the film. Bill Murray does give the performance of his life, and I've never liked him that much. The movie is full of close-ups, and they show clearly the weathered map of his face. His expressions, and mostly the eyes, give us glimpses into the inner man. He is so sad, and it takes you awhile to realize why he might be that way - too much success? Too many women? Love lost? Connections missed? He is the original "It's a Quarter To Three" guy in the bar. This is my first time seeing young Scarlett, and she too has a most expressive face. The chemistry between the two was very strong, IMO. Thoughts on the film --- Tokoyo was a menacing kind of presence all through. So much noise, so many people, such garish buildings. I think Coppola threw in Charlotte's trip to Kyoto just for relief. I couldn't see any other pressing reason. I wonder what the Japanese will think of the movie? It certainly didn't make me want to visit Tokoyo any time soon. We thought his sleeping with the lounge singer was contrived. Not something he would have done at that stage in the friendship. What did he whisper? Something that gave her heart and hope. She had that little beginning smile as she walked out of the final frame. She at least had a chance with John to make it work, whereas you got the feeling Bob's chances were lost a long time ago. His final scene in the cab, where he is actually short of breath from leaving Charlotte, was so well done. It couldn't have continued, and he knew that more than she did. Ribisi was wasted in his short role -- Anna Faris, who my hubby says was in Scary Movie, was so perfect as a Hollywood starlet. She had even the hand motions done pat. Her press conference was great fun. Liked it a lot - not the best I have seen this year, but it is up there - thanks mostly to Murray.

Thanks you too for your review Murph! I'll be looking forward to this.

(Murph), Liked it a lot - not the best I have seen this year, but it is up there - thanks mostly to Murray. I agree. ***Spoilers*** I would be interested in knowing what both you Murph, and Dorine think. What did he whisper in her ear at the end. Also, Scarlett was, it seemed jealous when he slept with the singer. Do you think she would have slept with him? Dorine, did Sofia say anything when she presented it?

**Spoilers*** (in more ways than one, I'm afraid) I saw Lost in Translation last night. Here goes, and all IMHO, of course. The first half of the film, I thought, was better than the second half. I very much enjoyed and truly laughed at the "lost translation" scenes when Bill Murray was filming the commercial, and his attempts to sleep, etc. I was not overly impressed with SJ. I left the theater in a so-so mood, because I really got bored with the second part. It was not the best film I've seen, certainly not the worst by any means. I thought Bill Murray was excellent, but I really looked hard to find a reason that his role should have oscar written all over it. I didn't find one. Not because he wasn't up to par, he was subtle, but just a bit too much, the role understated, but again, just too much. I do recommend that you see it. It was an enjoyable way to spend a Saturday evening...nothing more. I'll say one more thing. The clip from Regis and Kelly, last week, was the one with Charlotte showing Bill her hurt toe. Most especially in this scene, and a few others I found the dialogue very inane. And here is where I'll duck out, before I get hammered...I couldn't figure out what was nagging me when I saw the clip. It hit me in the theater. If I close my eyes and just listen at several points I got a Mike, heaven forbid, Binderesque type of feeling. I don't know if it was the dialogue or the way they delivered the lines. But, his voice kept creeping into my thoughts (creepy, huh?)--there you have it.(Sorry) (Murph)His final scene in the cab, where he is actually short of breath from leaving Charlotte, was so well done. I thought it was his best scene in the film. (Murph)Not something he would have done at that stage in the friendship. I agree, and IMO, again I think Charlotte would have slept with him.

(Linda)I thought Bill Murray was excellent, but I really looked hard to find a reason that his role should have oscar written all over it. I didn't find one. Thanks for the review Linda. That's what many of us thought about About Schmit and look at the fuss that was made. Moon and Murph, did you think it/they were Oscar worthy?

(Murph) Anna Faris . . . was so perfect as a Hollywood starlet. She had even the hand motions done pat. Her press conference was great fun. Supposedly, that is a riff on Cameron Diaz, right down to the "my dad fought in the Bay of Pigs" story. She must have done something to piss off Sofia! I liked the film, didn't love it. I think the critics are desperate to find award-worthy work after a summer of mostly crap. I enjoyed Murray and Johansson--they're very subtle actors. I liked the contrast in the atmospheres between Tokyo street life vs. the cocoon of the Park Hyatt Hotel. And, like Moon, I liked the fact that they didn't consummate the relationship; people in real life manage to not act on extra-marital attractions, but it seems likein the movies, it never goes that way. I especially enjoyed the scene where Murray is telling SJ about having kids--how your life is *never* the same, but they eventually grow into people you actually want to spend time with. So true. We thought his sleeping with the lounge singer was contrived. Bill Murray had an interesting take on this in Premiere mag. He said had Bob and Charlotte slept together, it would have ruined the rest of their lives, as they wouldn't be able to go back to the way things were prior to meeting. He saw the one-nighter with the lounge singer as a subconscious attempt by Bob to put some distance in between him and Charlotte--to spoil things, in a way, so that they could go back home again. What did he whisper? Something that gave her heart and hope. Maybe "We'll always have Tokyo." ;-)

Maybe "We'll always have Tokyo." ;-) ...As the Lounge Singer sings "As Time Goes By" in the background? ************************ The NY Times today (Now this scene was funny, though IMO the overall feeling was, as the author says below, elegiac): September 21, 2003 What Else Was Lost In Translation By MOTOKO RICH IT doesn't take much to figure out that "Lost in Translation," the title of Sofia Coppola's elegiac new film about two lonely American souls in Tokyo, means more than one thing. There is the cultural dislocation felt by Bob Harris (Bill Murray), a washed-up movie actor, and Charlotte (Scarlett Johansson), a young wife trying to find herself. They are also lost in their marriages, lost in their lives. Then, of course, there is the simple matter of language. Bob, who is in town to make a whiskey commercial, doesn't speak Japanese. His director (Yutaka Tadokoro), a histrionic Japanese hipster, doesn't speak English. In one scene, Bob goes on the set and tries to understand the director through a demure interpreter (Akiko Takeshita), who is either unable or (more likely) unwilling to translate everything the director is rattling on about. Needless to say, Bob is lost. And without subtitles, so is the audience. Here, translated into English, is what the fulmination is really about. DIRECTOR (in Japanese to the interpreter): The translation is very important, O.K.? The translation. INTERPRETER: Yes, of course. I understand. DIRECTOR: Mr. Bob-san. You are sitting quietly in your study. And then there is a bottle of Suntory whiskey on top of the table. You understand, right? With wholehearted feeling, slowly, look at the camera, tenderly, and as if you are meeting old friends, say the words. As if you are Bogie in "Casablanca," saying, "Cheers to you guys," Suntory time! INTERPRETER: He wants you to turn, look in camera. O.K.? BOB: That's all he said? INTERPRETER: Yes, turn to camera. BOB: Does he want me to, to turn from the right or turn from the left? INTERPRETER (in very formal Japanese to the director): He has prepared and is ready. And he wants to know, when the camera rolls, would you prefer that he turn to the left, or would you prefer that he turn to the right? And that is the kind of thing he would like to know, if you don't mind. DIRECTOR (very brusquely, and in much more colloquial Japanese): Either way is fine. That kind of thing doesn't matter. We don't have time, Bob-san, O.K.? You need to hurry. Raise the tension. Look at the camera. Slowly, with passion. It's passion that we want. Do you understand? INTERPRETER (In English, to Bob): Right side. And, uh, with intensity. BOB: Is that everything? It seemed like he said quite a bit more than that. DIRECTOR: What you are talking about is not just whiskey, you know. Do you understand? It's like you are meeting old friends. Softly, tenderly. Gently. Let your feelings boil up. Tension is important! Don't forget. INTERPRETER (in English, to Bob): Like an old friend, and into the camera. BOB: O.K. DIRECTOR: You understand? You love whiskey. It's Suntory time! O.K.? BOB: O.K. DIRECTOR: O.K.? O.K., let's roll. Start. BOB: For relaxing times, make it Suntory time. DIRECTOR: Cut, cut, cut, cut, cut! (Then in a very male form of Japanese, like a father speaking to a wayward child) Don't try to fool me. Don't pretend you don't understand. Do you even understand what we are trying to do? Suntory is very exclusive. The sound of the words is important. It's an expensive drink. This is No. 1. Now do it again, and you have to feel that this is exclusive. O.K.? This is not an everyday whiskey you know. INTERPRETER: Could you do it slower and �� DIRECTOR: With more ecstatic emotion. INTERPRETER: More intensity. DIRECTOR (in English): Suntory time! Roll. BOB: For relaxing times, make it Suntory time. DIRECTOR: Cut, cut, cut, cut, cut! God, I'm begging you. In an interview, Ms. Coppola said she wrote the dialogue for the scene in English, and then it was translated into Japanese for Mr. Tadokoro. The scene, she said, came out of her own experience promoting her first feature film, "The Virgin Suicides," in Japan. Whenever she would say something, she said, the interpreter would seemingly speak for much longer. "I would think that she was adding to what I was saying and getting carried away, so I wanted to have that in the scene." In the scene, Ms. Coppola said, Mr. Murray never did learn what the director was saying. "I like the fact that the American actors don't really know what's going on, just like the characters," she said. Frankly, it's not clear that even if Bob-san had understood what the director said, it would have helped. Ms. Coppola said she purposely gave the director "lame directions," adding, "He wasn't supposed to be the best director."

I forgot how much I love film discussions! Promise me we will do Mystic River!

(Murph)The NY Times today (Now this scene was funny, though IMO the overall feeling was, as the author says below, elegiac) I read this from the NY times this morning and LMAO. My DH wanted to know why it wasn't subtitled in. I figured we, the audience were all supposed to be lost in the translation, as well;-)

Yeah, I'm first! ;-) Induct Debra Messing into the Couture Hall of Fame. Worst chandelier earrings: Jane Kazmarek (sp??) If you put those on a stove, you could make pancakes on them. Worst grooming faux pas: Alicia Silverstone, who shouldn't have worn such a plunging neckline if she hadn't gone to a tanning salon or applied body makeup. Best Attitude/Quip: Bill Cosby's evident disgust with that Wanda person and comment that at least they spoke English on his show. Looked like Edie Falco was there with Stanley Tucci.

BOB: Is that everything? It seemed like he said quite a bit more than that. LOL, thanks Murph. A very funny scene. The reverse actually happened to me this week, when I sent an 8-page brochure that I had done out for Spanish translation. I got back 13 pages. To paraphrase Bill Murray: it seemed like I said quite a bit less than that.;-) When I questioned whether the differential could be so large, the translator replied, "English is a very economical language." Ok.:-) Did Bill's karoake remind anybody of his lounge singer skits from SNL? (Karen)Induct Debra Messing into the Couture Hall of Fame. She looked great as always, the dressed matched her hair. Was glad she won; I think everybody else in that cast had gotten an Emmy except for her. that Wanda person Did you catch what Larry David mumbled? "If I knew you were going to talk to me, I wouldn't have come." Her act did not go down well. Looked like Edie Falco was there with Stanley Tucci. Yep, they've been a couple ever since Frankie & Johnny. She also was very deserving; in the episode where she throws Tony out, she was searing.

Fairest Arnold and Rummy impersonations that don't come close to his Clinton impersonation: Daryl Hammond Best low profile surfacing: Jon Stewart Best cleavage: about a 12 way tie Most disgusting and not even close to Madonna Britney kiss: the big guy and Garry Shandling (who also wins the puffy red face award). Best kiss: Doris Roberts and Matt Leblanc (too bad Cheryl Hinds got passed by) Best monologue: Jon Stewart, news tune in technique and the hilarious Geraldo paste up. Fashion Award: Alicia Silverstone. No contest. At least those are my picks for the first two hours. I haven't watched the third hour yet.

Debra Messing gets the most radical plastic surgery award. Unrecogniable.

(Mari) Did you catch what Larry David mumbled? Yeah, I did catch that. Pretty bad. She also was very deserving; in the episode where she throws Tony out, she was searing. It was her season. The win was a foregone conclusion IMO. Nothing could've topped her season. But did you notice that the award for best dramatic writing went to the Whitecaps episode (second to last), the one with Dean Martin playing from the boat to annoy the neighbor and get out of the sales contract. I was thoroughly amazed (and laughing) at all the jokes about the Fox Network, especially the news clips.

I thought Daryl Hammond's Rumsfeld bit was fantastic. His content, the message, was biting and I think shocked the audience several times for how blatantly condemning it was. Thumbs up from me.

How can the Amazing Race outrealityshow Survivor? And how did the Bob Hope tribute get thrown in with the reality show nominees? My House in Umbia. Lost to Door to Door. Well, I didn't see Door to Door but I loved My House in Umbria. Retract Debra Messing comment, the second shot looked like her. The Set from Hell - the 55th Emmy Awards Show Best Acceptance speech - Debra Messing And just who is this?

(Mari)She also was very deserving; in the episode where she throws Tony out, she was searing. I remember we said that was the episode that would get her the Tony. I was sorry The Sopranos didn't win again. Sex and TC major shut-out. Jessica Parker's dress looked like the inside of a coffin.Not as hideous as the blue tulle brides-maidey one though. I liked the memorial to Bob Hope and thought had he been there he would have thanked or greeted the guys overseas. LOL. What an egotistical bunch. Rumsfeld monologue nailed them IMO.

Wow, Peg Phillips died.

Tress, Happy Birthday ! I hope you have a great day. You received a most excellent present by seeing GWAPE and LA, what more could you wish for ?

(Mari), Supposedly, that is a riff on Cameron Diaz, Exactly! Thanks, Mruph! I really laughed at the black-toe scene at the sushi restaurant. Bill Murray should get a nom, IMO. Comedians are always overlooked. Comedy is much harder to do well. I missed the first hour of the Emmys. Debra's dress and Sarah JP dress were lovely. There was another dress by Christina Applegate(I think it's her), the flowing lilac one that was my fav. Never liked that Raymond show. Tress, will be back for your bday celebration. Happy Birthday!!!

Hang on, Made the same mistake, myself. Tress's birthday is Jan.8th. On the birthday list there is a Trese for Sept. 22. I, too, assumed it was a misspelling for Tress. Hey, Toronto Tress can have two birthdays if she wants. She can have one every day this year in my book So, Tress as they say in Alice in Wonderland...Happy UnBirthday;-)

OK, I don't have any Jan/Febs on my list. (Hmmm, she shares the same date with my sister and Elvis) Happy unBirthday too! Ummm, nevermind. ;-)

And David Bowie. :-) ***Spoiler*** What I think he says to her at the end: "We'll never return to Tokyo and keep this memory forever." (They had hinted at this before in the film) What my DH thinks: "My cell number in LA is ... call me." LOL! Typical male. DH also thinks that she would have slept with him.

(Linda) So, Tress as they say in Alice in Wonderland...Happy UnBirthday;-) Gee! Thanks! Was really confused for a second (had a "Trauma" moment, I think!)...Elvis, David and I will wait til January to have the cake! ;-)

Holy Shit...you mean it's not Tress's birthday?? and I was just getting the dimples ready... Oh well, ...what the hell... My thanks to Mel at FOF

Thanks for the word on Translation ladies. Seems like it will do well. Especially for those fans of Murray. So glad DM won. She looked gorgeous as usual. Also thought Christina Applegate was absolutely beautiful. Didn't recognize her at first, but thought the dress and hair style perfect. Kind of reminded me of a "Carol Lombard Look". Wasn't physically here then, but have seen pics LOL. Glad the Soprano duo took it. Far better than competitors IMHO. However thought Soprano's or 24 should have taken the honors. Was delighted that Bill Macy did so well. Saw Door to Door and it really was deserving as was Macy's portrayal, bang on IMO. Also glad to see Jon Stewart get recognition. Also deserving IMO. All in all thought it was a good show and agree with most of the major recipients. However thought format of different comediens was not so good. Thought Wanda should have been gagged after her first plug for her show on Friday night. Some people can get away with insulting others, Rickels, Goldberg, Degeneres, etc. unfortunately for the show, she's not of their ilk.

Oooh! If this Unbirthday thing includes pictures!! Yippeee!!! That's freakin' fantastic (that was for Linda!!). I have another one in a couple of weeks! ;-D Thanks Evelyn!!

Tress, I can supply you with a real birthday coming up very soon. I'll let you have mine and I can stay 30 for another year. I have to learn how to do these graphics. I'm so impressed. Michelle

Happy Happy Birthday Tress! My new favorite protion of the Emmy's is Martin Short jumping up on the piano being played by Paul Schaefer and singing "Here's to the losers!" It was great. Then he gave the award for best actor in a comedy series to Tony Shalouf who played "monk". Just watched it on tivo again. At least the last portion. Tivo didn't catch the last 10 minutes or so. What happened in the very, very last minutes of the show? The tribute to John Ritter by Henry winklker was timely. But, come on. Who's that in the picture? Is it Firth? How could you miss this?

We didn't miss Firth, Terry, because it's not him. He's probably in pre-production for BJD2, or preparing for his son's Christening in Rome. I think we can all safely say that the man in the picture is not handsome enough to tempt us. ;-D

Who was that mystery man? And woman?

(Terry)Is it Firth? How could you miss this? A bit of a resemblance, but no. I tried very hard to make it so, but I just couldn't;-) Sorry.

Stars go out on the British film industry http://www.news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=531832003

Thanks for the article, Maria. It echoes a recent discussion on 176.

Good article, with some holes big enough to drive a truck through. But another group missing from the committee's agenda are the fans. IMO, they're most responsible for the dire condition of the British film industry because they don't support home-grown films. It's called putting your money where your mouth is. Ralph Fiennes, whose star debut in The English Patient made him Miramax's darling, is currently playing a US senatorial candidate in Maid in Manhattan. Is that all this guy thinks Rafe has done???? Pick the exception, rather than the rule? It needs more than artistic magnanimity to advise stars to appear in pissy little British films. *snort* Good thing Colin's agent doesn't succumb to this. ;-)

Does anyone know who Colin's agent is? I read somewhere that the only one he consults on roles is his wife, implying that his agent is not be very important in his career. Colin could certainly use better advice on some of the roles he has chosen, and perhaps better promotion for juicier roles, too. I think he could be a great (and sexy) villain, which seems to be the province of British actors in many American movies.

"Ralph Fiennes, whose star debut in The English Patient made him Miramax?s darling, is currently playing a US senatorial candidate in Maid in Manhattan." Poor Rafe...he gets no respect for the Chekovs and Ibsens that he does for little or nothing ��� at Stratford and the National. Just finished Brand at the Haymarket. I tell ya' the British press are a bunch of whiners.

I bet Colin does play in Podunk, Mass. I'm sure WAGW, SIL, TEP and BJD played there, my opinion of course. Don't care for the writer's attitude about him.

Catherine Zeta-Jones it was her appearance in TV�s The Darling Buds of May that made her a household name. That's not the soap she did with Colin, is it? Thanks, Maria!

No, it isn't. She was in Out of the Blue with Colin - not a soap.

Birthday update: First of all, here are the birthdays for the rest of September and the first half of October: Karen - September 28 EsBee - October 5 Second, I have a new birthday list available. E-mail me if you'd like a copy. It removes Trese (who I think lost her Internet access a while ago) and adds Tress (who wasn't on the last list that was published).

*raising a hand from the back of the class* Mine is October 2. Michelle

Weighing in on Lost in Translation....I liked it v. much and am not a fan of Bill Murray's.

So what did you think about Griet in Tokyo...

And what do you think he whispers to her at the end.

The same thing Valmont whispered in his aunt's ear. ;-)

You're no fun, Karen. I'll get you back on your birthday. ;-)

Rock Singer Robert Palmer Dies at Age 54. I will miss him. :-( I've met him a few times, he was a great guy and had a flair for dressing.

(Moon)Rock Singer Robert Palmer Dies at Age 54. I will miss him. :-( I've met him a few times, he was a great guy and had a flair for dressing. And those heavy lidded eyes that some of us are attracted to. Thanks for sharing Moon.

Brit National Theatre in first-look deal with N.Y. producers By AP LONDON -- Britain's National Theatre, one of the most important playhouses in the English-speaking theater, has brokered a deal with two New York producers to transfer their London hits to New York. Nicholas Hytner, the National's artistic director, said this week that he and executive director Nick Starr "were happy to be more aggressive than maybe this theater has been in the past." To that end, he and Starr have brokered a nonexclusive, first-look deal for National shows transferring to New York with American producers Bob Boyett and Bill Haber, the latter by way of his Ostar Productions. The deal gives the National $450,000 a year for three years while giving Boyett and Haber first refusal for the United States on some of the most exciting theater emerging from England. Since Hytner succeeded Trevor Nunn as the National's leader in April, the three-theater complex has had a nearly unbroken string of critical and popular hits. Those include "Jerry Springer -- The Opera," the most talked-about new musical of the season, and Michael Frayn's newly opened "Democracy," which quickly became the season's most talked-about new play. Hytner's regime hasn't yet hosted a dud, mounting obscure David Mamet ("Edmond," in an epic production starring Kenneth Branagh in his National debut) and well-known Chekhov ("Three Sisters," in a production from director Katie Mitchell). The state-funded National mounts between 16 and 20 productions a year. Not all of them, of course, will transfer to New York, but producer Boyett said he and Ostar were pleased to have struck the deal. "The National didn't have to do much wooing," Boyett said. "I knew Nick (Hytner) and had the highest regard for him; I also have respect for the National based on its many years of incredible product." Boyett was one of the producers of last year's musical flop, "Sweet Smell of Success," which Hytner directed. Over the years, the National has been a regular presence on and off-Broadway with such plays and productions as "Carousel," "Arcadia," "Humble Boy," "Racing Demon" and "An Inspector Calls," among others. With this deal in place to smooth the way, the National's current revival of Tom Stoppard's "Jumpers," starring Simon Russell Beale, could well be on Broadway before Tony time next June. So could "Democracy," especially since author Frayn's last play, "Copenhagen," won the Tony Award for best play in 2000.

Advert in the paper today: Jonathan Firth's name v.prominent above the title: LUTHER with Joseph Fiennes who plays the lead. Note to "The Guardian:" I always thought Luther was German;-)

I've seen the commercials for it and saw Jon's name too. This is getting a really low-profile release here. Need to check into it. Bizarre

(Evelyn)always thought Luther was German;-) 'Luther' film paints heroic picture of German church reformer September 22, 2003 - Volume: 03-88 http://www.abpnews.com/abpnews/story.cfm?newsId=3831 Luther Release Date: September 26, 2003 (limited) Studio: R.S. Entertainment Director: Eric Till Screenwriter: Bart Gavigan, Camille Thomasson Starring: Joseph Fiennes, Alfred Molina, Jonathan Firth, Claire Cox, Peter Ustinov, Bruno Ganz, Uwe Ochsenknecht, Mathieu Carri�re, Marco Hofschneider, Torben Liebrecht, Herb Andress, James Babson, Jeff Caster, Cesare Cremonini, Jens Winter http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/l/luther.php Trailer available on the above link, too.

I knew it! Linda, your first link is from the Associated Baptist Press. From the way it is being released, I thought it might be one of those films funded by a religious group. I've read about several and there was another that got a DIY kind of release awhile ago. Can't remember which biblical or historical figure it was about though... ;-)

I've seen the commercials for it and saw Jon's name too. This is getting a really low-profile release here. I've seen the previews and I didn't see him. I too was surprieded to read his name in the Ad. Off to see the Tuscanu movie tonight. Happy New Year to Karen and Lora!

Saw the ad in the local paper today as well. No review (why am I not suprised?) but it will be playing at a number of theaters in Atlanta. The NYT had a decent review though (but a much smaller ad). Martin Luther's Passion, Still Resonating Today By STEPHEN HOLDEN Published: September 26, 2003 Although "Luther," Eric Till's teeming screen biography of Martin Luther doesn't strain to make parallels between the 16th century and the present, the comparisons between then and now are obvious. The handsome, fact-filled historical epic, in which a fiery-eyed Joseph Fiennes portrays the father of the Reformation, depicts the events that gave birth to Protestantism as a life-and-death political struggle between a corrupt, repressive, intransigently conservative establishment (the Roman Catholic Church) and a liberal populist movement that spins out of control and wreaks havoc. With religious fundamentalists of every stripe ferociously resisting globalization and modernity, variations of the same primal struggle are still being acted out all over the world. And you are likely to come away from "Luther" with the useful but gloomy realization that the movie's essential conflict is a never-ending ideological rift programmed into the species. The movie makes no bones about which side it's on. For all the slaughter and devastation it precipitated, it insists, the Reformation was a wonderful thing and a major step on the road toward human enlightenment. Throughout the movie, Mr. Fiennes's lean, handsome Luther, whose appearance resembles kitsch illustrations of a dewy-eyed Jesus, emits a palpable glow of sanctity. As "Luther" tries to cram a textbook's worth of 16th-century German history into two hours, its reach far exceeds its grasp. As the film veers uncertainly between meticulous historical recapitulation and shameless hokum, it brings enough characters to populate a mini-series. When the historical details become too clogged, the movie shamelessly overcompensates by wallowing in cheap sentimentality. The most irritating recurrent motif is the regular appearance of a poor peasant woman and her crippled child who follow Luther around and gaze at him in mute worship. At a certain point the child is shown walking with crutches. The implication seems to be that Luther's charisma is so powerful it can work Christ-like miracles. The effort to invest Luther with deific healing powers feels like a desperate, cynical ploy for sympathy. Luther's religious faith is kindled by another miracle. In the opening scene he survives a lightning storm and is so grateful to God that he quits law school to join an Augustinian order of monks. At the monastery, his mentor, the Rev. Johann von Staupitz (Bruno Ganz), recognizes Luther's superior intelligence and purity of spirit and invites him to join a group of monks traveling to Rome. Luther is shocked by what he finds. Rome is a Bosch-style sewer of human misery and depravity where the poor clamor to purchase Vatican-approved certificates, called indulgences, that are supposed to save them and loved ones from eternal damnation. At the University in Wittenberg, under the wing of Prince Frederick the Wise (Peter Ustinov), Luther becomes a professor of theology and an anti-establishment firebrand. As his preaching against the sale of indulgences threatens to undermine the plan of the new pope, Leo X, to finance the rebuilding of St. Peter's Basilica through the sale of indulgences, he faces formidable adversaries in Brother Johann Tetzel (Alfred Molina), the pope's chief salesman of indulgences, and Girolamo Aleandro (Jonathan Firth), a cold Vatican emissary. Refusing to recant his writings, Luther posts the 95 Theses on a church door. It is the opening salvo in a battle that eventually tears Germany � and Christianity � apart. Mr. Fiennes's performance captures Luther's psychic and spiritual turbulence in scenes where the character writhes and howls in seizures of self-doubt. But for all the emotion on display, the character never quite achieves a full human dimension. His marriage to a runaway nun, Katerina von Borg (Claire Cox), is cursorily handled in the stock manner of a historical soap opera. For all its faults, "Luther," which opens today nationwide, conveys a great deal of historical information, and now and then it has flashes of real passion. Mr. Ustinov is especially memorable as a canny, titled diplomat navigating a treacherous path between bitterly opposing forces. And the film, photographed by Robert Frazier ("Seven Years in Tibet") on 100 sets in 20 locations throughout Germany, Italy and the Czech Republic, is ravishingly beautiful. "Luther" is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned). It has scenes of mob violence and human slaughter. LUTHER Directed by Eric Till; written by Camille Thomasson and Bart Gavigan; director of photography, Robert Fraisse; edited by Clive Barrett; music by Richard Harvey; production designer, Rolf Zehetbauer; produced by Brigitte Rochow; released by RS Entertainment. Running time: 113 minutes. This film is rated PG-13. WITH: Joseph Fiennes (Martin Luther), Peter Ustinov (Prince Frederick the Wise), Alfred Molina (Johann Tetzel), Bruno Ganz (the Rev. Johann von Staupitz), Jonathan Firth (Girolamo Aleandro), Claire Cox (Katerina von Borg), Benjamin Sadler (Georg Spalatin), Jochen Horst (Professor Karlstadt) and Torben Liebrecht (Emperor Charles V).

and Girolamo Aleandro (Jonathan Firth), a cold Vatican emissary. I wonder if Jon stayed at Colin's flat in Rome to do Vatican research. ;-)

(Karen)This is getting a really low-profile release here. Big release in the Bible Belt here. "And the film, photographed by Robert Frazier ("Seven Years in Tibet") on 100 sets in 20 locations throughout Germany, Italy and the Czech Republic, is ravishingly beautiful. " Big year for beautiful films;-)

It's apples and honey time again.... Happy Holidays to Karen, Lora and all our friends who celebrate this holiday Anybody making apple kudgel? My favorite.

L'shana Tova Tikva Tanu!

Happy Rosh Hashana! So what else were you expecting from your Beesela?;-)

I didn't get a chance to finish moving everything over for the GWAPE discussion, so I've frozen the topic until that's done. Shoot, sun is setting.... L'shana Tova to you all too. ;-)

Happy Rosh Hashana! May the New Year bring you many blessings. Michelle

Bunch of reviews here for Luther. Some are pretty funny: http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/luther/ Not too many mentions of Jon.

(Murph) Not too many mentions of Jon. But he came out better than Joe: (Austin Chronicle) "Joseph Fiennes smolders as young Luther, but it?s a performance that makes you wish instead that his older brother Ralph -? an actor who is one of the greatest at being able to portray inner torture and anguish -? were playing the part." We usually see him on television. I think this is Jon's first major big screen movie. Thanks Murph

(Evelyn) We usually see him on television. Speaking of which, saw him on Inspector Lynley a couple of weeks ago and again tonight on Poirot. Hope lil' bro will have big screen success in Luther.

A bit of a different view of "Lost in Translation" from the oh-so-sophisticated Atlanta Journal Constitution. ;-) AM I RIGHT?: Find a translator to locate the plot in talky Tokyo Jordy 'Ray' Purlky Jr. - Staff Friday, September 26, 2003 Man, I was stoked about "Lost in Translation," because all the critics have gone totally ape-[excrement] over it. Plus it stars my man Bill Murray, and Bill Murray can do no wrong, am I right? Even better, when the flick starts, it has THE BEST opening credits I have seen all year --- the awesome sight of Scarlett Johansson's peachy-creamy backside in see-through panties. What's not to like, right? But then the movie begins. And all I can say is, what the [heck] happened? See, Murray plays this Hollywood action star named Bob Harris who's in Tokyo to pocket $2 million for doing some whiskey ads. (Real movie stars make a fast buck this way all the time --- just check out www.japander.com/japander/list.htm.) Bob's having his midlife-movie-star crisis, because he spends all his downtime at the hotel bar knocking back cocktails. He looks like a sad old bassett hound that's got a bad jones for hooch. Every now and then he drifts past Charlotte (Johansson), who's at the hotel with her [jerk] of a husband John, who's played by the actor that looks like Scott Evil, only it's the other one. [Editor's note: Giovanni Ribisi.] John's a photographer who leaves Charlotte alone all day while he's out shooting a rock band. And you KNOW he's a [jerk] if he spends all his time with a rock band instead of with her peachy-creamy goodness, you know? OK, so Bob and Charlotte keep passing each other in the hallways and elevators for what seems like a couple of hours, until they FINALLY start talking to each other. That's when I figured we were getting around to a PLOT, which is a good thing for a movie to have. Up till then, there's some funny stuff where Bill Murray shoots his whiskey ad and does Rat Pack imitations. He turns on his hotel TV, and they're playing an old movie of his, co-starring a monkey. And he's got this HILARIOUS scene with a Japanese high-class hooker who tells him to "Lip my stocking." (The movie could've used a whole lot more of her, tell you the truth, but she just disappears.) Anyway, Bob and Charlotte start talking, only I don't remember what they talk about because it's a lot of Not Much. She says she studied philosophy, she doesn't know what she wants to do with her life, blahdeeblah. When they're not talking at the bar, Charlotte wanders around Tokyo exploring temples and listening to monks chant. And Bob deals with phone calls from his wife, who sighs a lot and does the whole passive-aggressive "Your children miss you" [trash]. So with [a jerk] husband like hers and [an emasculating female dog] of a wife like his, what's to stop Bob and Charlotte from getting together? The movie, that's what. Bob and Charlotte go out on the town. They go to loud bars and run through the streets like the Beatles in "A Hard Day's Night." And they sing karaoke. When Bill grabbed the mike, I got psyched --- I was expecting him to sing the "Star Wars" theme like he did on "SNL," but no go. And there's something wrong with a movie that hands Bill Murray a microphone and doesn't make you laugh your [posterior] off. Oh, they go to a strip club, too, where some Asian honeys do some topless gymnastics. But just when things start to get good, Bob and Charlotte LEAVE. Why? So they can spend more time making moony eyes at each other and not doing anything about it. Man, can somebody tell me what this movie is about? Maybe there was something wrong with the print I saw. I went to a sneak-preview screening, and sometimes when that happens, it's what they call a "work print." That means the final FX or musical score isn't finished. With "Lost in Translation," I guess it was the subtitles and the sound mix. And the plot. See, I'm not big on subtitles. But I like to know what people are SAYING. This movie has all these scenes of Japanese people yakking Japanese at Murray, and there aren't any subtitles, so you're just as confused as HE is. That's not the worst thing, though. If you make it all the way to the end, there's a scene where Bob says goodbye to Charlotte. But there's something wrong with the sound recording, because when he whispers in her ear, YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND A WORD HE'S SAYING! I don't want to sound all totally negative. You have to give writer-director Sofia Coppola some credit for getting into directing, because anybody who saw "Godfather III" knows she can't act worth a [darn]. If she sticks with her husband Spike Jonze, who did "Adaptation," maybe she'll learn how to make movies that have a STORY. Personally, I'd've rather watched the flick starring Bill Murray and the monkey. Jordy "Ray" Purlky Jr., a native Atlantan, enjoys hot babes, cold beers and movies of any temperature (wink, wink). E-mail your questions or comments to jpurlky@ajc.com. Please include your name and phone number. 'LOST IN TRANSLATION' * Naked breasts: Yes, at a strip club, where I wish the movie had spent more time. * Dirty words: A few. * The rest: Written and directed by Sofia Coppola. Rated R for some sexual content. At metro theaters. 1 hour, 42 minutes.

Happy Holidays to Karen, Lora and all.

Happy New Year to Karen and all.... Shoshana - That review is a hoot!

Happy Holiday and best wishes for the New Year.

"Man, can somebody tell me what this movie is about?" ROTF. "I feel yo' pain"....That's what I said about "Vanilla Sky".

Fascinating article at Comic Book Resources via AICN: ORSON WELLES AND THE BAT-MAN Welles worked on pre-production for seven months on a proposed Batman movie. http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=thecolumn

Happy New Year!!!

officially, it's the 28th here (1:16:21 am)... am i the first one ? ok, then, follow the instructions posted here. **some say that size doesn't matter, but beware : this file weighs a mean 426 ko !**

mmmmh, tricky, tricky.... i said, here, i meant here, dammit !

I'm gonna be early this year and wish Karen a very happy birthday!!!! (and happy Rosh Hashana!)

Some news about the Oscars is in the movie conference topic on the Oscars. It's topic 29. New host. Or, new old host.

Ssshhhhh . . . For Karen's birthday, I'm going to ask her if she'll accept thisrose

Ooof, help me out of this car, I'm stiff . . . . . . wish I were as young as Karen again!

Grrrrr! What time is it? What the f*#k time is it? It must be time for Karen's Birthday somewhere on the planet! I just can't wait... Perhaps I'd better have a lie down and wait a bit.......

Karen, Colin wants to know if he can bring a few friends to your birthday party . . . . . . By the way, the man pictured above has been given sanctuary at an undisclosed Drool location . . .

Seems it is time to serenade the boss!!! They say it's your Birthday...duh, duh, duh, duh, dun! It's my Unbirthday too!! And now....how about a stuffed olive? Beetroot cube? Mini gherkin? No?Well then....a prost from our favorite barrister!!! To all the days here and afterMay they be filled with fond memories, happiness, and laughter. Happy Birthday Karen!!!

Have a wonderful day Karen

Hi, It's Us Wot? You were expecting Tom, Shazzar, and Jude? At least this crew came dressed To The Nines Happy Birthday, Karen

Happy Birthday, Karen! I�ve interrupted my workout to tell you how much I love the site you�ve created for me. And, in appreciation of that wonderful birthday bash you recently threw for me, I�ve brought a range of my own as a present. I can see all the wonderful birthday cakes you will pride yourself in making for me. :-D See what springs to mind? ;-) But that�s not all, I also wanted you to have these, Come, Karen, you�re next. And by the way, Scarlett told me exactly what Bill Murray whispered in her ear, �I�m glad this film is finally done, you overbearing, bossy bitch.� Have a wonderful birthday, Karen, you rock!

Hey you...Birthday Girl.. We know we give you Drool -headaches of "erotic proportions." So here are a few gifts/tips to resolve those moments... For the folks who don't close the tags For the Annual Career Angst (AKA "Get your a** over to Hollywood instead of hiding out in Umbria" / "He's got a family to support") For when Drool is down and other Terry-induced headaches..

But we love you...Miss Cranky-Pants...just as you are.... For all that you do For all that you are

Happy Birthday Karen!

"Karen? Yes, I know her. She's fun but Boss-y" "Now, make sure you spell it right. That's j-o-b-b-i-n-g."

They're celebrating on Clark Street--It's Karen's Bithday AND her Cubs win the National League Central Division--WooHoo!

Glad I took some time out from doing my laundry and checked things out here... ;-) Woo woo Soph!!! At the rate Colin is running, he should be at my door...anytime now but, from what I can see, he hasn't "dropped everything" important yet. ;-) Mari: I'm not sure I'd accept a rose from Bob given a few of the dodgy ones he picked out last week. See if Dominic isn't busy; he lives relatively nearby. ;-) And poor Tony! Everyone deserves asylum, don't they??? Nice to know that not only does Colin know me, he "knows" me so well. ;-) Tress: So Bridget was karaoking to the Beatles' song all that time and some fool decided to switch it in post? Happy Unbirthday again to you-u! Aishling: Thank you for the lovely fall bouquet. Tis lovely! :) Yo, Linda!! I recognize the lady second from the left, but which one are you? Silly thing, you must be the one with the perfect cleavage. Didn't know they sold stuff like that. Only in Joisy. ;-) Moon, honey, I love the earrings and would gladly let Colin play with my earlobes anytime, using any part of his body he chose: fingers or whatever. ;-) Hmmm, that butterfly birthday cake not only brought one film springing to mind, but another piece of fluff that had a little butterfly zipping across the Brooklyn Bridge and straight into Chinatown. LOL Evelyn!! What *am* I supposed to be cutting up there? Oh, to have a lever like that. *sigh* Thank you Laura and Terry for your wishes. Thank you, Beedee, I too was having a little lie-down, after having had a minor miracle occur yesterday (the Cubbies!!!). A major miracle of Biblical proportions will occur if they manage to actually *play* in the World Series and, if they manage to win, that would be a miracle of even greater, erotic proportions.

Karen, Happy Birthday!!! I hope the next year brings you sunshine, beautiful images and all that you wish for. Have a great day! Michelle

2nd try... Michelle

Bzzzzzzz, zzzzearching for giftzzz for Karen, Oh thizzzzzzz lookzzz like a lovely treat! Ah yezzzzzzzz, letzzzzzzzz dine alfrezzzzco! Have A HabBee Birthday, Karen!

Karen, what a busy day and weekend you've had! First you celebrated the New Year, then your Cubs win the National League Central Division (but watch out for those FL Marlins ;-)), and then it's time to celebrate your birthday! Hurry up and finish that laundry, because Colin and all of your drool friends have been waiting downstairs to wish you the very best of birthdays! We appreciate all you do for us! So hurry on down, we're still waiting for you - And we really do love you, actually! Happy, happy birthday, Karen!

And thanks for the use of the LA pic for the occasion of your birthday festivities, Karen. Colin looks very appreciative for all your hard work, doesn't he?!! Also thanks everyone for all your Happy New Year wishes!

Michelle: Thank you for the lovely wishes, though right now the sun isn't cooperating. Beedee: You are sending plane tickets so I can dine alfrezzzco...somewhere, huh? Maybe Umb[r]eeeeeeera ;-) Lora: OK, I'm all ready with all my local friends--a rather young and vivacious group of Colin Firth fans too--and we're ready to parteeeee!!

In honor of Karen's birthday, I thought we'd resume our vicarious travels with the Firth family as they make their way actross the American West. Dr. Shirley Firth graciously re-opens the family album for us. I thought you might want to see the vehicle in which we rode, having accepted the exhortation to "see the USA in your Chevrolet."

(mari) "Karen? Yes, I know her. She's fun but Boss-y" wahaahaa ! so... karen is sj ? i'm confused... or is it just a brilliant disguise ? (karen) from what I can see, he hasn't "dropped everything" important yet. ;-) wahaahaa again ! well, i seem to have misplaced the HS captures you're mentionning... but that's not the reason i was posting again. it seems that an old, and i mean old friend of yours showed up, and no, the old friend is not a member of the 'young and vivacious group of cf fans' mentionned above (btw, looks like you live in 'suffragette city', karen). problem is, this old friend of yours is a little shy, he wants to tell you something, but has trouble expressing himself. definitely not the most articulate gentleman, but hey, no one asked him to give a conference anyway... animatronicolin 2.3, severely agitated version ***warning again : gettin' high, high, high at 520 ko ! ! !***

Our first stop was the Grand Canyon. We then visited a nearby Native American reservation. I think they were quite happy to see us. At this point, I had to punish Colin for showing extreme insensitivity to our hosts by wearing this hat. I told him to accompany his father back to our lodgings to contemplate the sins of the European explorers and the American settlers. Upon my return to our room, however, David was sprawled on the bed snoring, while Colin was taking a keen interest in the television set, tuning into see a scantily clad woman portraying a genie. Good thing we're on the road again tomorrow!

We'll carry on, since I'm having such good luck posting images today.:-( We then headed north, to Las Vegas. One cannot shelter one's chidren forever. It was a wonderful learning experience for us all. The children learned about the worst sort of American vulgarity and excess lurking beneath the shiny facade. And David and I learned that one cannot retrieve one's lost quarters by repeatedly kicking one's slot machine. In fairness, I must say that the constable at the Golden Nugget was very nice, agreeing to waive all charges in return for our promise to quit the premises immediately.

Someone must know you're the boss, since your birthday is a major holiday! ;-) You can use any leftover cake for Tashlich this evening, or even better, why not cast crummy movies into the water instead of bread crumbs? You can start here: Cast away those bad movie sins and start afresh, right? And there's even the Thames in which to cast them. *Splosh!*

Happy Birthday, Karen, oh Mistress of Drool! IF SEPT. 28 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY: You possess drive and stamina; you're a self-reliant and creative person who is best self-employed or working independently. More often than not, you're ready to take a chance; you're excellent at self-promotion. This year sees you discovering new enjoyments involving water, perhaps a cruise. January and February next year bring rewards that may have to do with children. ********* Birthdates which occurred on your birthday: 551 -BC- Confucius (as celebrated in Taiwan) 106 -BC- Pompey (Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus) Rome, warrior 1573 Caravaggio Italy, painter 1785 David Walker Wilmington NC, a black born free 1824 Francis Turner Palgrave Eng, poet (Golden Treasury)/prof (Oxford) 1839 Frances Willard founded Women's Christian Temperance Union 1841 Georges Clemenceau France, statesman/PM (defended Dreyfuss) 1849 Dudley Allen Sargent US, physician/educator (Harvard U gymnasium) 1852 Henri Moissan France, chemist; isolated fluorine (Nobel 1906) 1856 Edward Thompson US archeologist who explored Mayan ruins 1856 Kate Douglas Wiggins author (Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm) 1870 Florent Schmitt Bl�mont France, composer (Fr�d�gonde) 1880 Ralph Edward Flanders Barnet VT, (Sen-VT) 1882 Jack Fournier 2nd baseman (1917-18 NY Yankees) 1885 Wilbur 'Lefty' Good pitcher (NY Yankees, 1905) 1887 Avery Brundage AAU & International Olympic Committee president 1895 Lawton Whitey Witt outfielder (NY Yankees, 1922-25) 19-- Eloy Phil Casados Long Beach Calif, actor (Young Daniel Boone) 19-- George Lynch rocker (Lynch Mob-Wicked Sensations) 19-- Michael Clayton Staten Island NY, rock drummer (Tyketto-Wings) 19-- Robert Wolders Rotterdam Holland, actor (Erik Hunter-Laredo) 19-- Sam Whipple Venice Calif, actor (Terry-Open All Night) 19-- Susan Walters Georgia, actress (Loving) 1901 William S Paley founder & chairman (CBS) 1902 Ed Sullivan TV variety show host/gossip columnist (Ed Sullivan Show) 1905 Max Schmeling Germany, world heavyweight boxing champ (1930-32) 1905 William Northam Austria, yachtsman (Olympic-gold-1964) 1907 Glen (Turk) Edwards NFL tackle (Boston/Washington Redskins) 1907 Heikki Savolainen Finland, pommel horse gymnast (Olympic-gold-1948) 1909 Al Capp New Haven Ct, cartoonist (Li'l Abner) 1910 Fran Lee NYC, actress (Ms Wong-Major Dell Conway) 1911 Henry Ellsworth Vines Jr tennis (US Open 1931,32)/golf player 1913 Alice Marble tennis player (US Open 1936, 1938-40) 1913 Vivian Fine Chicago Ill, composer (Women in the Garden) 1914 Harold Taylor Canada, educator (Art & the Future) 1916 Peter Finch actor (Network, Windom's Way, Raid on Entebbe) 1917 Michael Somes England, ballet dancer (Royal Ballet in London) 1919 Thomas Harmon football player/sportscaster (Heisman winner) 1922 Joe Silver Chicago Ill, actor (Mr I Magination, Fay) 1923 Fred Robbins Balt Md, DJ (Coke Time with Eddie Fisher, Robbins Nest) 1923 William Windom NYC, actor (Farmer's Daughter, Murder She Wrote) 1924 Marcello Mastroianni actor (8�, La Dolce Vita) 1925 Arnold Stang Mass, comedian/actor (Broadside, Milton Berle, Top Cat) 1925 Seymour Cray inventor (Cray I computer) 1926 Jerry Clower Amite County Miss, country comedian (Nashville on Road) 1933 Madeleine M Kunin Switzerland (Gov-D-Vt), 1st Jewish gov of Vermont 1934 Brigitte Bardot Paris France, sex kitten (And God Created Women) 1936 Robert Hogan NYC, actor (Peyton Place, Operation Petticoat) 1938 Ben E King NC, singer (Stand by Me) 1940 Alexander S Ivanchenkov cosmonaut (Soyuz 29, T-6) 1941 Charley Taylor NFL wide receiver/running back (Wash Redskin) 1942 Grant Jackson pitcher (1972 NY Yankees) 1943 Gertrud "Traudl" Hecher Austria, downhill skier (Olympic-bronze-1960) 1943 Joel Higgins Bloomington Ill, actor (Salvage 1, Silver Spoons) 1946 Fiona Lewis Westcliff England, actress (Stunts, Lisztomania) 1946 Herbert Jefferson Jr Jersey City NJ, actor (Battlestar Galactica) 1946 Larry Breeding Winchester Ill, actor (Who's Watching the Kids?) 1948 Helen Shapiro London England, rocker (Straighten Up) 1948 Marielle Goitschel France, slalom (Olympic-gold-1968) 1948 Phil Hartman comedian (SNL) 1951 Christian Marlowe LA Calif, actor (Bram-Highcliffe Manor) 1951 Dave Rajsich pitcher (NY Yankees) 1952 Sylvia Kristel Holland, actress (Emmanuelle, Priv School for Girls) 1954 Steve Largent wide receiver (Seattle Seahawks) 1958 Lory Del Santo Verona Italy, (Miss Italy-1980) 1961 Anne White Charleston WV, tennis (Wore spandex in '85 Wimbledon) 1962 Luis Enrique spanish singer (Luces del Alma) 1967 Moon Unit Zappa rocker (Valley Girl), Frank's daughter 1968 Carr� Otis SF Calif, actress (Wild Orchid) ******************************** On this day... 1066 William the Conqueror lands in England 1542 Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo discovers California, at San Diego Bay 1781 Siege of Yorktown begins, last battle of the Revolutionary War 1787 Congress sends Constitution to state legislatures for their approval 1829 Walker's Appeal, racial antislavery pamphlet, published in Boston 1850 Flogging in US Navy & on merchant vessels abolished 1858 Donati's comet becomes the 1st to be photographed 1867 Toronto becomes the capital of Ontario 1868 Battle of Alcolea, causes Queen Isabella 2 of Spain to flee to France 1868 Opelousas Massacre at St Landry Parish Louisiana (200 blacks killed) 1879 Sydney Australia innaugurates steam motor tram route 1906 US troops reoccupy Cuba, stay until 1909 1912 "Kiche Maru" sinks off Japan, killing 1,000 1914 German forces move into Antwerp Belgium (WW I) 1919 Fastest major league game (51 mins), Giants beat Phillies 6-1 1920 8 White Sox indicted, threw 1919 World Series (Black Sox scandal) 1922 Mussolini marches on Rome 1923 Yanks slaughter Red Sox 24-4 1924 2 US Army planes end around-world flight, Seattle to Seattle, 57 stops 1928 Juan de la Cierva makes 1st helicopter flight over English Channel 1928 Yanks clinch pennant #6 1930 Lou Gehrig's errorless streak ends at 885 consecutive games 1936 Brooklyn & Boston play a penalty free NFL game 1937 FDR dedicates Bonneville Dam on Columbia River (Oregon) 1939 Soviet-German treaty agree on 4th partition of Poland (WW II) & gives Lithuania to the USSR 1940 Michigan's Tom Harmon runs 72, 86 & 94 yard touchdowns 1941 Phillies lose club record 111th game 1941 Ted Williams assures his .400 avg on last day with 6 hits 1942 NY Americans NHL team folded 1944 1st TV Musical comedy (The Boys from Boise) 1944 Battle of Arnhem, Germans defeat British airborne in Netherlands 1948 WBAP-TV, (NBC affiliate) Fort Worth Texas, begins broadcasting 1951 Allie Reynolds' 2nd no-hitter of 1951; Yanks clinch pennant #18 1951 Norm Van Brocklin of the Rams passes for NFL-record 554 yards 1958 Guinea votes for independence from France 1959 Explorer VI reveals an intense radiation belt around the Earth 1960 Ted Williams hits his final homer #521 1961 "Purlie Victorious," a farce by Ossie Davis, opens on Broadway 1961 Syria withdraws from United Arab Republic 1961 USN Comdr Forrest S Petersen takes X-15 to 30,720 m 1963 Giuseppe Cantarella roller-skates a record 41.5 kph for 440 yds 1963 Italy's Giuseppe Camtarella skates a record 25.78 MPH 1964 Australia beats US in 1st clay court Davis Cup 1965 Jack McKay in X-15 reaches 90 km 1965 Lava flows kill at least 350 (Taal Phillipines) 1967 Walter Washington elected 1st mayor of Washington, DC 1968 Alberto Giolani of Italy roller skates record 23.133 miles in 1 hr 1968 Atlanta Chiefs beat San Diego Toros 3-0 for NASL championship 1968 Beatles' "Hey Jude," single goes #1 & stays #1 for 9 weeks 1968 Chuck Hixson (Southern Methodist) completes 37 of record 69 passes 1969 Joe Kapp (Minn Vikings) passes for 7 touchdowns vs Balt Colts (52-14) 1970 Intrepid (US) beats Gretel II (Aust) in 22nd America's Cup 1972 Japan & Communist China agree to re-establish diplomatic relations 1974 1st lady Betty Ford undergoes a radical mastectomy 1974 Calif Angel Nolan Ryan 3rd no-hitter beats Minn Twin, 4-0 1974 John Lennon appears as guest dj on WNEW-FM (NYC) 1975 Oakland A's Vida Blue, Glenn Abbott, Paul Linblad & Rollie Fingers, no-hit Calif Angels 5-0 1976 Muhammad Ali retains heavyweight boxing championship in a close 15-round decision over Ken Norton at Yankee Stadium 1978 Israeli Knesset endorses Camp David accord 1979 Larry Holmes (retain championship) KOs Earnie Shavers in 11 rounds 1980 Jaromir Wagner is 1st to fly the Atlantic standing on the wing 1981 Joseph Paul Franklin, avowed racist, sentenced to life imprisonment for killing 2 black joggers in Salt Lake City 1982 1st reports appear of death from cyanide-laced Tylenol capsules 1982 NASA launches Intelsat V 1983 STS-9 vehicle moves to launch pad 1985 NASA launches Intelsat VA 1986 Record 23,000 start in a marathon (Mexico City) 1988 Bronx Museum for the Arts opens 1988 LA Dodger Orel Hershiser sets record for consecutive scoreless inns 1990 Marvin Gaye gets a star on Hollywood's walk of fame 1991 NY Yankees set record of 75 games without a complete pitched game

Ooof, since the weather here is rather Halloween-like, I've decided to pretend we're still in summer by enjoying a few cocktails: before I move on to the serious stuff. Oh my, Soph, if you can't get the "pants" to drop, then a little *pant pan* and a good *growl* will do very nicely. ;-) while Colin was taking a keen interest in the television set, tuning into see a scantily clad woman portraying a genie. Is that the one? The children learned about the worst sort of American vulgarity and excess lurking beneath the shiny facade. And David and I learned that one cannot retrieve one's lost quarters by repeatedly kicking one's slot machine. In fairness, I must say that the constable at the Golden Nugget was very nice, agreeing to waive all charges in return for our promise to quit the premises immediately. ROTFLOL!! I found this pic hidden under another one of some scenary, which I assume was taken at Lake Mead. Shirley said that Colin proved to be fairly good at waterskiing: but he fell down right after David snapped it. Shoshana: From your mouth to God's ears. Definitely, cast those crummy movies into the Thames or the toilet, a closer body of water. ;-) Western Memories of the Firth Family Continue Hmmm, thought the station wagon had wood sides. (Shirley) to contemplate the sins of the European explorers and the American settlers. *snort* Better they should've been missionaries, right? ;-)

Thanks, Mari, for sharing more of Shirley's holiday memories with us!

And thank, Lisa, I always like the fact that I shared a birthday with Brigitte Bardot. Don't have a clue why though? ;-)

Oh, Karen, I almost forgot this for here.

(Shoshana)You can use any leftover cake for Tashlich this evening, or even better, why not cast crummy movies into the water instead of bread crumbs? Very cute, for the movie is sinful. (Happy, healthy New Year to you, Shoshana!) When I see that L'dum picture of the four of them it suddenly remins me of a takeoff on "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy." Only this time it's they who need the help ;-). And, Karen, back to celebrating your birthday...Colin would have come here to wish you Happy Birthday personally, but he's been going over some scripts that you will be very thrilled about. This script is so well written that the action on the pages seem to leap out at you right away, as well as having a light and breezy character about them. Looks like Oscar material ;-).

Karen, what a great party :-) I think I've found just the right present for you. You mentioned a while back, that your height could be a problem, if you were to put your arm around Colin. So - I asked Uncle Nick to make a special pair of stiltboots for you, that you can wear on your next date with ODB. At this moment, I'm trying to locate him for you. You can't wear the stiltboots without a proper dress to "cover" for you, so I found this (I know the image is too big, but honestly, I couldn't find anyone small enough (jpg-size-wise, that is :-)) And - off course you shall have a rose, named after another Karen (Blixen): Happy Birthday, Karen :-)

I just located your date for this evening. But - I had some tecnical difficulties bringing him to the party, so - please follow the link, and he's right there waiting for you ;-) http://www.firth.com/articles/020824dailymail.html

(Lora) This script is so well written that the action on the pages seem to leap out at you right away, as well as having a light and breezy character about them. Looks like Oscar material ;-). That looked like Colin's next short story flying off with the breeze. Those Oscar-worthy scripts are penciled in on his datebook. ;-) Annette: Stilts might work since I wouldn't be able to walk more than two inches with very high-heeled shoes anymore (arches have gone with the wind, I think). Thank you for the lovely rose. I visited Karen Blixen's home ("I had farm in Africa...at the foot of the Ngong Hills...").

We switched vehicles for a more appropriate conveyance . . . . . . upon reaching our next destination, San Francisco. We visited a lovely neighbourhood called Haight-Ashbury. David and I purchased new garments. While in "the Haight," as the locals called it, we stopped at a charming collective, where one can barter goods. I promptly offered up two jars of marmite, in exchange for what I was told were healthful brownies, laced with all sorts of nutritional elements. As I don't allow the children sweets, David and I ate them all. When I awoke in hospital the next morning, dear Colin (he's becoming quite the grown man) was sorting out our bill, though they were reluctant to accept our NHS card at first. "Mum," he said, "you and Dad had a bad trip." "No, darling," I replied, "it's been a wonderful trip! We shall begin a a scrapbook . . ."

Being mistress of the keeps (a job I take very seriously;-)!)when it's someone's birthday, I try to find a snap of that person's keep to wish them a happy day. And Karen, honey, you have quite a few keeps, though not as many as some others who shall remain nameless;-)! So, after spending the whole day looking for pics, becoming quite cross-eyed, and hoping I don't get into trouble for borrowing some without permission..here are a few of your keeps for your birthday..enjoy! We start out with one of my faves..a well sniffed pair of leather pants! (please forgive the size)

Karen, someone wishes -- late though it might almost be -- to express his ardent admiration for you and all you do on the occasion of your birthday! Happy Birthday!

Next, your leather jacket from FP. Hmmm..leather pants, leather jacket, anyone else notice a trend? Not gonna ask how well sniffed the jacket is though;-)! and while we're going with outerwear, I might as well put in that long dark coat from BJD that makes CF look so scumptious:-)!

I promptly offered up two jars of marmite, in exchange for what I was told were healthful brownies, Too funny, Mari. Moon...the gift certificate for the ear piercing by V.was the winner.

heh..it's late, I'm still cross-eyed and I can't spell worth a dang...I meant scrumptious! Okay...what do we have now? Ahhh yes, that lovely beach fantasy with the bathing trunks from HS. I couldn't decide which pic to use, so I went with all of them!

I knew if you wore that dress we'd have a hard time getting into Karen's party Wait here, I'll see if I can sneak in the back door. (Karen, sorry we're late...Livia shopped all day for just the right thing to wear) Hope you've had an ab-so-lutely wonderful day

(Karen), I always like the fact that I shared a birthday with Brigitte Bardot. Just Bardot? Why there's Caravaggio, Mastroianni, and even Confucious!!! Mari, ROTF! Loved that "Love mobile" I can hear The Grateful Dead playing on the radio. Of course, Colin knew they had tripped, Bang a Gong! ;-) (Evelyn), Moon...the gift certificate for the ear piercing by V.was the winner. LOL! Pleasure and pain, that's what it's all about. ;-) Great party, Karen. Great cocktails!

A Tale of Two Teens Amanda: Gee, I wonder if I can keep all of the kewl clothes from WAGW? Scarlett: Hmmm, I wonder if Peter Webber used all of the director's notes that I sent to him? Amanda: It was neat having Colin play my Dad. Scarlett: Oooh, Colin, whose my Daddy? Amanda: I hope I didn't sound too perky as Daphne. Scarlett: I hope I didn't sound like an asshole as Griet. Amanda: I hope it's not too late to wish Karen a Happy Birthday! Scarlett: Finally, something else we have in common (besides acting with YKW)! Happy Birthday, Karen!

Stop the press...Paul Ashworth just sent this ... And just so you don't forget to go "back to your roots..." You can wow 'em on Halloween...

Make that "who's my Daddy?" Too many cocktails. ;-)

Almost done...wellll until next year anyway. Those dorky striped pajamas (you called them that, not me;-)!) was a tough one to find as was your robe but here they are for your birthday! (again, sorry about the sizes) Just could not find the pic with his toes peeking out:-(. Oooh and before I forget, your limp wrist;-)! (with grateful thanks to firthissimo)

Last ones I promise (hey I can hear that cheering back there;-)!) thank goodness you really didn't have that red ball because I couldn't find that at all! and lastly, because this was one you requested many eons ago for the Lusty Ladies Wish List... Happy Birthday Karen! (whew, I'm done..can I have that drink now?)

(Australian Telegraph referring to SJ)Now it seems even "Mr Darcy" has been caught in her web. We all know that our birthday girl beat Miss Scarlett to this by a long shot. She's had him on her "web" before Scarlett was even in Middle School ;-). *************************************** (Moon)And by the way, Scarlett told me exactly what Bill Murray whispered in her ear, �I�m glad this film is finally done, you overbearing, bossy bitch.� ROTFLOL! Too funny, Moon!

Karen...In vain I have struggled. You must allow me to tell you how ardently I'd love to wish you a Happy Birthday! Special thanks to Rika for the capture I just stole...er...borrowed! ;-)

The lights went out in Unbria! I took a lie down and when I got up it was dark! Does nothing work in the Country? Now I can't see a *#*%ing thing! But I want to say Happy Bid...bi..birthday (must have a bee in my throat) to Karen yet again. Sweet dreams, Karen.......

What do you mean I'm late for Karen's party? I was just taking a quick shower.... Happy birthday, Karen!

I had to crawl my way back to this party... (Mari/Shirley) We visited a lovely neighbourhood called Haight-Ashbury. David and I purchased new garments. ROTF! Loved the pic. It's obvious, they haven't changed one bit. They're trippin'. Peace, man. 'V' Ada: *clap clap clap* You really deserve a big stiff one now (I do mean a drink, and shame on anyone who thought I meant something else) as you did a bang up job finding all my keepsakes. As you can see, there's no method in my madness (not leather and not outerwear). But there is a certain je ne sais quoi about that second bathing trunks pic that draws me in... ;-) (Linda) I knew if you wore that dress we'd have a hard time getting into Karen's party You're damn straight!! Nobody upstages the birthday girl. ;-) (Lisa) Scarlett: Oooh, Colin, who's my Daddy? (corrected version) Pearls of wisdom from preteens. ;-) Oh my, we're going to have to get used to this... :-( Evelyn: Is that a hint? Should I redecorate the spare bedroom? You asked for it, you got it. But I really want to thank you for the Spam costume. I still have my Spam earrings around here and they'll go perfectly. I doubt it will be too too much. (Lora) We all know that our birthday girl beat Miss Scarlett to this by a long shot. She's had him on her "web" before Scarlett was even in Middle School ;-). Is this an old lady joke? Hey, I resemble that comment. ;-) Tress and BarbS: Thank you so much for conveying Fitzwilliam's ardent and heartfelt wishes. They're always so appreciated, as he's the guy who brung me to the dance. (Beedee) Does nothing work in the Country? I think Moon can attest to that. But I'm sure Colin will pass his concerns onto to his good buddy Silvio. Rika: Ah, no party is complete is complete without a nekky man in a low slung towel. Thanks! And a big thank you to all. What a great party and what great guests.

One last thing, I've had to rely on my... to give me my number one wish for this birthday. I want this gay...I mean guy...and especially his magic paintbrush...to finish my place in one day!!

How could I have missed Karen's Birthday?! Thats it! I'm tattooing it on my a** so I never forget again! Hope you had a great day Karen!

Thanks, Maria.

(Karen)You really deserve a big stiff one now (I do mean a drink, and shame on anyone who thought I meant something else) bu..bu..but,Kaaaren, can't I have both? ;-P

Karen -- Click for your special birthday page: http://www.murphsplace.com/karen.html XXXXXxxxxxx

Amanda: I hope I didn't sound too perky as Daphne. Scarlett: I hope I didn't sound like an asshole as Griet. Oh, Lisa, too funny! They certainly are a contrast! Great stuff all the way around, ladies. I love Drool birthdays! P.S. Lora, just stick a dagger through this Phillies fan's heart with yer Marlins' talk.;-)

I didn't forget, jut sorry I�m late To wish you good things too. And Karen this fancy that you have for Darcy To all of us rings true. When pictures and links, graphics of drinks, And news of YKW Turn us into fools, you bring up the rules And sometimes you drool too. ;-) So here it is Boss, we�d be at a loss If it weren�t for you, Thanks for your thing that you do at Spring And Happy Birthday too!

(Karen)Is this an old lady joke? Hey, I resemble that comment. ;-) Oh no, I see your winkie, but I didn't mean it that way at all. It's just that she (SJ) thinks she's so great bossing around Colin like that when she doesn't even know as much about him as the real boss! So she has no respect. She's still green behind the ears in terms of her sophisticated knowledge about him and needs to pay her dues! That's why I have Moon's comment there too! SJ is a little too bossy for her britches!!! (Mari)P.S. Lora, just stick a dagger through this Phillies fan's heart with yer Marlins' talk.;-) Whoops *covering mouth with hand* I forgot about that aspect of the win. Sorry about the Phillies, but it was very close and they can come back next year or so...it's only taken the Marlins 6 years after the powers that be dismantled their winning team :-\.

(Lora)Sorry about the Phillies, but it was very close and they can come back next year or so Mari, I guess we can sit around in the park waiting for next year's fixture list;-(

Only the best for the best. Happy Happy Birthday, Karen. Girls you are indeed the best.

Anybody see Under the Tuscan Sun? Bew-u-ti-ful movie. Real class. A great advert for Italy and Italian realtors. People are gonna be clamoring for one of those villas;-) Brought back nice memories of the Amalfi Drive and Positano That Diane Lane is gorgeous. Whoever is doing her surgery has to be commended. Don't miss it. Full house for the matinee. They showed trailers of Christmas movies : Veronica Guerin and LA. I know he's in only a portion of that film, but by the trailer this is HG's movie.

(Evelyn) I know he's in only a portion of that film, but by the trailer this is HG's movie. LOL...watching it...I thought it was Bill Nighy's movie! I think the trailers will be heavy with HG in the US...his face sells over here. Actually, this is a definite ensemble piece. There are so many good bits all over the place. The focus does seem to be on HG, and he may put butts in seats, but I think there are stronger stories in LA than his...

Last night I saw LOST IN TRANSLATION -a few thoughts...Bill Murray's performance was right on the mark. This ,IMHO, is not surprising since I feel his performance in THE RAZOR'S EDGE was berated in large part to the audiences' inability to accept him in a dramatic role. It is clearly brought forth that his characters' wife of 25 years no longer travels with him when he works and that she would rather stay at home with their apparently young childre. He states that she no longer needs him to be there(home) and his children miss him,yet they don't need him present, either. How Sad!!!!That's his tragedy along with not being a current Man of the Moment in his industry. When he whispers to SJ's Charlotte at the movies end, he leaves her smiling-his objective-he can still act a part. She can move forward with her life. She still has options open to her and she is not so jaded as to be despondent. He then returns to the taxi to his own reality-Lost as to the necessity to even exist. Trailer at the beginning of the show was LA-definitely being touted as HG predominating the script. Also showed a longer trailer of LUTHER.

Thank you Murph, Sonia and Pam. Just came back from an intimate luncheon with 2200 of my closest friends. Okay, they weren't celebrating my birthday but I can pretend. ;-)

(Linda)Mari, I guess we can sit around in the park waiting for next year's fixture list;-( 23 years! 23 #%@*(^cking years! I've wanted the Phillies to win a World Series longer than I've wanted anything else.;-) Oh well, new ballpark to look forward to next year. Lora, was just teasing; your guys deserve it. They played better down the stretch and won when they had to. Don't think I'm bitter just because I have the family in South Philly waiting to pay Jeff Conine a call . . . nah, not bitter . . .;-)

Evelyn) I know he's in only a portion of that film, but by the trailer this is HG's movie. (Tress)LOL...watching it...I thought it was Bill Nighy's movie! I think the trailers will be heavy with HG in the US...his face sells over here. (Bonnie)railer at the beginning of the show was LA-definitely being touted as HG predominating the script. Different trailers around it seems. Just had a note from Lizza in UK. She saw the trailer over the weekend and over there Colin opens the trailer... says his face fills up the screen. Hardly any Rowan...the trailer seems to be plugging Colin and Hugh in that order. "Happy thoughts indeed":-)))

Evelyn-"Happy thoughts indeed":-))) Be still ny heart!

Everyone must rent Russian Ark. Truly beautiful! **Spoilers*** Invisible to everyone around him, a contemporary filmmaker magically finds himself in the Hermitage in St. Petersburg- back in the early 1700�s! He meets a cynical French diplomat from the 19th Century and the men become accomplices in an extraordinary time-traveling journey through Russia�s turbulent past- ending in the present day. Exploring the splendid corridors and salons of the Palace, the Marquis and the filmmaker witness astonishing scenes from the Tsarist Empire: Peter the Great thrashes his general with a whip; during rehearsals of her own play, Catherine the Great rushes around looking for a place to relieve herself; the family of the last Tsar dine together, oblivious to the impending revolution; and hundreds of dancers waltz at the last Great Royal Ball of 1913 with Valery Gergiev conducting. As their time-voyage unfolds in a single, uncut steadicam shot, the two men engage in a passionate and ironic dispute. The Marquis clearly has a Western love-hate relationship with Russia, whereas the modern filmmaker questions his country�s uneasy connection to its past and to Europe today. The two tease each other, and share their amazement at the scenes they encounter. The Hermitage is the Russian Ark, affectionately guarding art and history until the world sees better days. Martin Scorsese: Yet, in the film's grand finale, such doubts are swept aside as the camera waltzes its way through a packed ballroom full of dancers, weaving around them before finally following their departure down the building's majestic central staircase. It is a beautiful and haunting sequence that turns the stupefying into the spectacular. Martin Scorsese once asked why America couldn't make movies like Sokurov's. The answer to that question seems blindingly obvious.

(Mari) 23 years! 23 #%@*(^cking years! You mean, with recent memory. Don't play that 23 #%@*(^cking years thing with me. We've got you coming and going. Try a "this millenium" argument if you want some sympathy. ;-) (Moon) Everyone must rent Russian Ark. Truly beautiful! Ah, you should've seen it in a theater. Now to decide if I'm going to see Sokurov's latest. The film is more a technical marvel than anything. Did you catch the guy (an orchestra member) in that finale with the modern-day ponytail? ;-) It is a gorgeous ending.

(Mari)Don't think I'm bitter just because I have the family in South Philly waiting to pay Jeff Conine a call . . . nah, not bitter . . .;-) Heehee, I understand what you mean. We were very sad to see him go since he was one of the original Marlins at the time and such a great player (and a cutie). Now he's the only one on the present team that was on the WS winning team. Was just watching the Weather Channel because of the rain we've been having here and they had a roving reporter at Soldiers Field in Chicago interviewing a lot of the excited tailgating fans before tonight's game. Looked like a lot of fun. Was looking for you, Karen ;-) Thanks everyone for the reviews and recommendations. Am very much looking forward to seeing LIT and UTTS! Will rent Russian Ark too.

(Evelyn)She saw the trailer over the weekend and over there Colin opens the trailer... says his face fills up the screen Now that's a trailer. Excellent news, indeed. Thanks Lizza.

(Karen)Don't play that 23 #%@*(^cking years thing with me. We've got you coming and going. Uh huh. You had all those years of NBA championships with the Bulls. I, on the other hand, have bupkis.:-( Nobody knows . . . da trouble ah've seen . . . nobody knows . . .

Then why does "long-suffering" always precede Cub fans? ;-)

Anybody watch Coupling, the American one, last week? I didn't think it was funny at all. Then I just noticed that the British version is playing on my PBS station and watched it and thought the same, not funny at all, especially in comparison to Friends, which can make me LOL.

Beware of the Affair! Posted on Tue, Sep. 30, 2003 ITALIAN ROMANCE: CELLPHONES BETRAYING SECRET LOVES In Italy, spouses and lovers are catching cheaters when racy messages and strange numbers pop up on mobile phones. BY TOM RACHMAN (Associated Press) ROME - Italy's love affair with text messaging is having an unexpected consequence: Cellphones have become a leading giveaway of secret affairs. Snooping spouses are finding amorous messages, as well as inexplicable phone numbers, stored in the memory of mobile phones. Divorce lawyers are ecstatic, magazines are warning readers to watch out, and one private investigator has even issued ''Five Golden Rules'' on how to cheat with a cellphone and not get caught. Antonella, a 19-year-old art student who declined to give her last name, recounted an ugly experience involving a boyfriend and a mobile. ''We were looking at the cellphone together because he was expecting a message from a relative,'' she said. ``Instead, it was from a girl saying she'd had a lovely time with him last night and sending him lots of kisses.'' Their breakup came soon after. Private eye Miriam Tomponzi says a study by her firm found cellphones involved in nearly nine of every 10 discovered affairs in Italy. As an antidote, her agency has offered up its five rules to avoid discovery. One trick is to immediately delete call records from phone memory, as well as text messages -- ''even the most beautiful,'' the agency advises wistfully. Another tip, for when a paramour's call comes when a spouse is present, is to fake a normal work conversation. ''Practice this by yourself in a closed room in front of a mirror and in a loud voice,'' the agency exhorts. Tomponzi, speaking in an office stuffed with old-school sleuthing tools like the magnifying glass, explained why text messaging appeals to the unfaithful. ''Say I'm talking to you, I can write a text message to my lover without you realizing,'' she said. 'I send it calmly, it's done. But a phone call I couldn't do, right? `Amore, I love you, I want you' -- written I can do it, verbally I can't. This is the convenience of the short messages.'' Divorce lawyer Cesare Rimini said text messages have taken the place once held by love letters. ''Secret affairs are discovered by what? Through communication,'' he said. ``Communication at one time was letters -- I've joked that it was once even Morse Code. Today, the methods of communication are these.'' That mobiles should intersect with love in Italy is not surprising. Rarely does a crowd of Italians gather without at least one punching out a text message on a cellphone. The telltale beep of an incoming message will send them fumbling excitedly for their phones. It is like passing notes in school, only on a national level. Even the Vatican now sends urgent notes to journalists using phone messaging. Cellphone use is high in much of Europe, and Italy has one of the highest levels of all. In a nation of 58 million people, there are 53 million mobile subscriptions -- a market penetration of 92.4 percent, says the industry review Mobile Communications. The United States has only about 50 percent penetration, editor Shani Raja said. Many people have more than one mobile account. Some use one for work and another for family and friends. Other reasons are less innocent. Mobile operator Vodafone Omnitel has an Alter Ego service that gives subscribers two separate numbers on the same microchip. Vodafone spokeswoman Silvia de Blasio was asked about the cheating possibilities. ''Services that you have on your mobile phone help your mobility and allow you to have a more easy life -- more easy, but not necessarily to betray your wife or husband,'' she said.

(Karen), Anybody watch Coupling, the American one, last week? I didn't think it was funny at all. Then I just noticed that the British version is playing on my PBS station and watched it and thought the same, not funny at all, I've seen the British one. Sometimes it's very funny. I've not followed Friends at all, but it looks goofy with all that overacting. (Moon) Everyone must rent Russian Ark. Truly beautiful! (Karen), Ah, you should've seen it in a theater. Don't rub it in. That was my first thought. Unfortunately, it never made it to my area. (Unlike HS!!!) Now to decide if I'm going to see Sokurov's latest. You read what Scorsese said. ;-) Are there any films at the CFF that were shown at Toronto?

(Moon) Are there any films at the CFF that were shown at Toronto? Yes, of course, our opening night film is The Human Stain, the Barbarian Invasions is playing as well as The Station Master, My Life Without You...Those come to mind off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many more.

(Karen)Anybody watch Coupling, the American one, last week? I didn't think it was funny at all. Then I just noticed that the British version is playing on my PBS station and watched it and thought the same, not funny at all, Ahh, you just don't get irony.;-) ;-) ;-) Same here, watched both (virtually the same script), and thought it hideous in either accent. Give me Friends, give me Will & Grace . . . speaking of which, Minnie Driver is returning in a semi-regular role as the late Stan's paramour; John Cleese is joining the cast as her father, who will have an affair with Karen (Megan Mullally). Dylan McDermott will appear in at least one episode as a love interest for Will. No sign of Colin yet . . . maybe is not part of his "strategy." ;-) Was LOL at last week's W&G show. Will: "If something had happened between us, you'd have already left and my wallet would have been gone." Now *that's* funny.

Mira Sorvino is on W&G this week, as the only girl Will has ever had sex with. (Hmmm, didn't she win an Oscar too??) ;-) Glad to see that you're of the same mind re: Coupling. *yawn*

I loved the British coupling series and I was looking forward to the American version. But the Americans have botched this one badly. They have *systematically*, uncannily made every aspect of this worse. Never, has such a show been mangled from one continent to another. Never has such a success been turned in such a dismal failure. Will they learn from the pilot and fix what's broke? I hope so because it's seriously broke in it's present form.

(Moon)I've not followed Friends at all, but it looks goofy with all that overacting. You've seen one episode, you've seen 'em all, IMO.

I didn't watch it at the beginning, but I started a few years ago and think it gets better and better. The writing is very strong IMO. ...whereas Coupling was a total letdown and the original isn't funny or original either.

Here you go, Moon, re: whispering: IMDb: So, that whole scene where Bob gets back out of the cab... Johannson: It was written that he finds her; they embrace. That was it. She says something to the effect of, "I'll miss you." Coppola: I think I told Bill to kiss her without her knowing it. You get such a different reaction when it's unscripted. It's more honest. IMDb: What does he whisper to her at the end? Coppola: There was something specific, there was dialogue, but I liked it better that it was just between the two of them. IMDb: And you're not going to say what it is, are you? She shakes her head in a sweet, almost school-girlish way.

Related -- Film Force: Billy Zane joins Sayles' next pic. http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/452/452016p1.html

(Karen), Coupling was a total letdown and the original isn't funny or original either. And you've watched a total of one episode? I'm not saying that it's as funny as Keeping Up Appearances, which I really enjoy, but the British Coupling has had very funny moments. Thanks, Mari!

(Moon)the British Coupling has had very funny moments. I agree, I don't catch it regularly but I have found there to be some v. funny moments. I was totally disappointed with the American version.

I love the British Coupling, though I don't watch on a regular basis. Was turned off the new one watching the commercials and clips. Looks like Dullsville.

Just saw this on E!... Oscars Screeners Scratched by Bridget Byrne Sep 30, 2003, 5:10 PM PT Apparently Academy Award voters are going to have see movies the old-fashioned way--in movie theaters. The major studios have agreed to go along with the Motion Picture Association of America's proposal to stop the sending out DVD and video screeners to those who vote for the Oscars and other Hollywood awards. In recent years, the proliferation of screeners has allowed voters to watch films in the comfort of their own living rooms. But the MPAA sees the wide availability of award-contending films, many of which are just beginning their theatrical runs, as too tempting for pirates who could put make digitally perfect copies available online and on street corners. And the MPAA and studio bosses don't want to repeat the Napster-fueled downturn of the music biz. The screen ban was announced Tuesday, just in time for MPAA President and CEO Jack Valenti to announce it before a Senate committee in Washington, D.C. He cited the move as "a determined commitment to combat digital piracy and to save movie jobs in the future." Valenti added that "400,000 to 600,000 films are being illegally abducted every day...and the MPAA intends to deploy every weapon at its command" to stop this theft. But many indie distributors and specialty divisions within the major studios see the screener ban as a deadly blow to their films' chances of winning major awards. Their movies usually play in limited release and don't have theatrical outreach of the big-budget flicks and they had used screeners to help level the playing field. "It's a sad day in Mudville," one unnamed indie exec tells Daily Variety. Says another, "This has been a big conspiracy to make sure the specialty companies don't participate in the Academy Awards. There will be no Pedro Almodovar winning Best Screenplay, because he won't have a chance." The major studios agreed late Monday to make the home-video mailings taboo, despite the upset it will undoubtedly bring to what is already a shorter season than previous campaigns, with the Oscars being handed out on February 29. Those MPAA signators agreeing to the ban are MGM, Paramount, Sony, 20th Century Fox, Universal, Walt Disney Company and Warner Bros. DreamWorks and the independent New Line, agreed despite not being MPAA signators. No word yet on whether indie houses like Lions Gate, Artisan or IFC will comply. The last major to sign off on the agreement was Howard Stringer, vice chairman of Sony, according to Variety. Miramax chieftain Harvey Weinstein, whose vigorous Oscar campaigning avidly embraced the home screener tactic and whose so-called independent movies like Shakespeare in Love did very well at Oscar time--reportedly only agreed reluctantly. The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, the organization behind the Oscars, said Tuesday it had nothing to do with the ban. But the Academy did say in a statement, "We have always urged our members to see the films on big screens the way they were intended to be seen and to base their judgments on the achievements contained in the films on those viewings and not to vote based upon an image seen on the television screen." Because of the ease of duplicating screeners, the increased use of broadband and new compression technology (Valenti says a new program developed by Caltech researchers allows a movie file to be downloaded in five seconds), the studios have plenty to lose should their big-bucks event pictures get leaked online and are looking to protect their investments Among the would-be blockbusters coming down the pike in time for Oscar consideration: Warners' The Last Samurai, starring Tom Cruise' Fox's Master and Commander, starring Russell Crowe; Miramax's Cold Mountain, starring Nicole Kidman; New Line's third and final Hobbit tale, The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King; and Sony's Big Fish, directed by Tim Burton. (Disney and Universal's key contenders, Finding Nemo and Seabiscuit, respectively, were released earlier in the year and will have commercial DVDs on the market before voting season wraps up.) According to reports, the big fights came between studio bosses, who are scared of piracy, and marketing executives, who look to award ceremonies as a way to boost box office. The screener ban will not only impact Oscar voters, but also those who vote for the Golden Globes and Directors and Screen Actors guild awards, as well as various critics groups. With the voting process kept anonymous, there is no official data on how much home viewing contributes to a film's chances of getting an Oscar nod, and it is not known how many voters, accustomed to what one studio executive termed, "a lazy way for marketing people to make sure their film is seen [and] a lazy way for voters to see the film," will now make the effort to leave home to attend screenings before marking their ballots. The only thing we do is that screening rooms will be fully booked and duplication and shipping companies will lose money. And Pedro Almodovar might just want to content himself with last year's wins.

"Miramax chieftain Harvey Weinstein, whose vigorous Oscar campaigning avidly embraced the home screener tactic and whose so-called independent movies like Shakespeare in Love did very well at Oscar time--reportedly only agreed reluctantly." Piker. "There will be no Pedro Almodovar winning Best Screenplay, because he won't have a chance." That's a positive outcome, for sure. I've had enough of Pedro. Now, Roberrrrrto...is another story;-)

Remember when we were talking about the series called "Mind of the Married Man"? (when they had the conversations about Colin Firth?). Well, one of the players in that series has landed in the dismal American version of Coupling: Sonya Balger. She's a stunning Argentine beauty with exceptional acting and comedic talent. But the directors of the American Coupling have managed to suppress and diminish her exceptional talents in this new version of coupling. I find this alarming. I thought that if they had systematically set out to deliberately make this series worse in every aspect they would have ended up with what they have now. The characters are good. The sets are good. The lines are actually ok and in some cases lifted almost word for word out of the original. But the overall mix falls flat on it's face. It's like they tried to hard to be true to the British original instead of developing something unique in it's own right. It's painful to watch if you've seen the British original.

(Terry)Remember when we were talking about the series called "Mind of the Married Man"? (when they had the conversations about Colin Firth?). Yes, and it still gives me the creeps worrying if it was a lead-in to a possible guest appearance;-( (Terry)It's like they tried to hard to be true to the British original instead of developing something unique in it's own right. And they failed miserably.

(Karen) Anybody watch Coupling, the American one, last week? I didn't think it was funny at all. Then I just noticed that the British version is playing on my PBS station and watched it and thought the same, not funny at all, especially in comparison to Friends, which can make me LOL. I agree Karen. Especially about the American version. I had seen the British version but only a couple of times. Not ROTFLO show to me, either version but the British was better, the little that I saw of it. However did realize that the pilot was exactly the same as an episode I had seen and not done nearly as well. You would think they would realize that an exact translation doesn't always work, and in this case it doesn't, at least not with these actors. Something really has to be done Terry, I agree. It's terrible. I do like Friends, have from the beginning. Coupling has a long way to go to equal it IMO.

Michelle, A quick note to say Happy Birthday, before I have to don my other Darcy persona, as I'm currently on location, working very hard on my third "Darcy" role.

The UK's number one talk show, Parkinson talks to Hollywood a-lister George Clooney - Saturday, October 11th at 6 pm/et, 3 pm/pt. http://bbcamerica.com/bbcamerica.jsp Michelle

Happy Birhtday Michelle! Have a rocking 'n rolling day!

God's rightful punishment? ;-) NEW YORK (Sept. 30) - A man who was to appear in court Tuesday on charges of having sex with his girlfriend inside St. Patrick's Cathedral as part of a radio show stunt has died at his home in Virginia, his lawyer said. Brian Florence, 38, died last Thursday of a heart attack in Alexandria, said the couple's lawyer, Maranda Fritz. She said the funeral was Monday, and his co-defendant and girlfriend, Loretta Lynn Harper, 36, is "still in a state of shock."

That was my thought too, Moon. I was listening to that show that day. They were both gits. And not jammy gits, either. :-(

Question: DH is going to take me to see Under the Tuscan Sun for my birthday today. Good show? Good date movie? Btw, my early birthday present from Amazon - P&P DVD, GWAPE book and UTS book came in! Also got to tape SLW on Lifetime the other night. Plot you could drive a truck through, but I liked seeing the African customs and really enjoyed ODB. Sigh. Would like to see the uncut version now. Thank you for the birthday wishes. I'll make a post toward those later. :) Michelle

I can't tell you anything about UTS, haven't had the opportunity to see it yet. But - I can wish you a Happy Birthday. Sounds like you have allready gotten some very nice presents :-)

HAPPY Day to Michelle.... Thanks to Bea: Sony cracks 'Da Vinci Code' -- Goldsman to adapt novel, Howard to helm By NICOLE LAPORTE Ron Howard, Brian Grazer and Akiva Goldsman -- the Oscar-winning triumvirate from "A Beautiful Mind" -- are reteaming to make "The Da Vinci Code" for Sony Pictures Entertainment. Pic will likely mark Sony Pictures chairman-CEO John Calley's first producing stint in his post-chieftan life when he gives up his studio duties this fall. Goldsman will adapt the bestselling novel by Dan Brown. Grazer, Howard's Imagine Entertainment partner, will produce alongside Calley. Pic will be Howard's next after the Russell Crowe starrer "Cinderella Man," also produced by Grazer and written by Goldsman. Rights to "Code" and other books in Brown's series were bought by Columbia Pictures in June in a deal estimated to be north of $6 million. Tome, which concerns clues embedded in paintings by Leonardo da Vinci that unlock secrets that cut to the core of Christianity, had been much sought after by producers since it became a publishing phenom last spring. It has been on the national bestseller list for 26 weeks, much of that time at No. 1. Howard recently completed directing "The Missing" for Sony, Revolution and Imagine; pic will be released Nov. 19. He also has a producer credit on Imagine/Touchstone's upcoming "The Alamo," which bows Christmas day. Goldsman wrote the screenplay for 20th Century Fox's "I, Robot," due for release next summer. Grazer is producing several pics currently in production, including "The Incredible Shrinking Man" and "Fun With Dick and Jane," both for Sony and Imagine.

And Under the Tuscan Sun is a lovely film.

Saw this short blurb at the Guardian: Harvey Weinstein, co-chairman of Miramax, paid written tribute to the late Evening Standard film critic Alexander Walker at a memorial ceremony yesterday. Weinstein's note, which was read out at the ceremony, revealed his delight at the "poetry" with which Walker praised Miramax's Pulp Fiction, but added: "As many of us know who were on the receiving end of his harsher reviews, he could be cruel, too, but even then his wit frequently shone through. Of my brother Bob's film Dracula 2000 he noted, with reference to some rather obvious product placement: 'It comes, not from the grave, but apparently the Virgin Megastore.'"

UTS is an entertaining chick flick. :-) Wonder if Harvey's already got Plan B in place now that he reluctantly agreed to the screener ban. I'm certain he'll find a way around it. Him play fair? Naaaaah! ;-)

Yeah, godferbid, he should actually put his films into theaters, huh? ;-)

Actually, Harve didn't sign on as originally reported. He was part of a meeting with the other "specialty" arms of the major studios to figure out how to fight it. Doesn't affect Lions Gate (GWAPE) at all, as they are not affiliated with a major studio, i.e., signatories to the agreement. Not that it will matter anyway, as I get the feeling that GWAPE's chances may be limited to the minor "craft" type categories.

Happy Birthday, Michelle! Wishing you a fun and Firth-filled year!:-)

(Karen) Yeah, godferbid, he should actually put his films into theaters, huh? ;-) LOL, well, in all fairness, he actually did have quite a few extra private screenings of Chicago, The Quiet American, etc., and a few theater chains have special arrangements with the guilds for viewings. (Mari) Actually, Harve didn't sign on as originally reported. He was part of a meeting with the other "specialty" arms of the major studios to figure out how to fight it. I just read an article about that, but must've missed his name. Why they don't just use the technology 2 of the big studios have looked into to watermark screeners? Probably $$. And Harve sent out VHS screeners for TIOBE last year, though. Think that had a hope-in-hell chance at anything? ;-)

(Dorine)Why they don't just use the technology 2 of the big studios have looked into to watermark screeners? Exactly. Valenti originally tried to say it was prohibitively expensive, then the firm that has the technology came forward and said, uh, no it's not. Now his story is that watermarking only helps after the fact, i.e., tracking down whomever leaked it. I guess he's never heard of a detterant effect.;-) Think that had a hope-in-hell chance at anything? ;-) LOL, they must send out screeners of anything in their inventory, just as they do with the "for your consideration" ads. It's "odd" that the studios have come out with this plan this year, when most of them just happen to have a bona fide contender. You can almost predict the Best Picture contenders right now, sight unseen: Cold Mountain, Master & Commander, The Last Samurai, LOTR3, and The Alamo or The Missing. Possibly Seabiscuit if one of the above fumbles. All huge films that don't requite screeners in order to get exposure to voters. Case closed.

Happy Birthday, Michelle! Enjoy your new CF presents. And one day soon we hope you will get CF's presence as well! :-) Haven't seen UTTS yet, but I've heard it's very good. Sounds like a very nice birthday so far!

MICHELLE!!! Have a great day!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHELLE You'll love Under the Tuscan Sun. Warning: You & DH will want to jump on Air Italia and go off to Italy. Better still, like Colin, you'll wannabe Italians:-))) Great news on the Da Vinci Code. I'm reading it now. A real page- turner.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHELLE FROM A BUSY BEE!

Michelle!!!!Someone dropped some presents off for you while you were seeing Under the Tuscan Sun....Don't worry, he'll be back later for cake!

Might be interesting to some...Alan Parker's notes... http://www.amnistia-internacional.pt/conteudos/filme/Life%20of%20David%20Gale%20-%20Production%20Notes.doc

HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHELLE. Have a great evening and enjoy the movie as well as your special gifts. What a lovely day. I've heard the movie is great but not as great as P&P of course. Enjoy.

Evelyn-*Great news on the Da Vinci Code. I'm reading it now. A real page- turner. * Just received The Da Vinci Code and it awaits my attention upon completeing a reread of GWAPE. A friend in Colorado said after reading it she would give me a web site to visit that requires you answer questions about the book to provide clues to a quest????? She will not elaborate until I've read it....heard anything about that?

(Karen) Yeah, godferbid, he should actually put his films into theaters, huh? ;-) That's not the problem as Dorine has also pointed out. Will the Academy members want to go out to special screenings and see all the films? What if they have other things to do on those days? I doubt the well known actors, who also vote, would go. They all have those big screening rooms in their mansions. I too enjoyed UTS.

(Moon) They all have those big screening rooms in their mansions And you can bet bottom dollar that people like that will be getting screeners anyway. And sometimes the screening times for different films conflict.

Where was my head? Can't let Michelle's Birthday pass by without mention! Happy Birthday!

Sorry I'm late, Michelle, but I had to exercise the tree frogs. Oh look! Now I'm blushing... but remember to have a happy birthday!

(Dorine) Why they don't just use the technology 2 of the big studios have looked into to watermark screeners? Probably $$. Strangely enough, I have a TIOBE screener that is watermarked, with the number of the person who received it running across the top of the screen. (Karen) Yeah, godferbid, he should actually put his films into theaters, huh? ;-) (Moon) That's not the problem as Dorine has also pointed out. Sorry, my turnip truck is coming 'round the corner. Puhleez, I think I understand the problem. Maybe you didn't understand my quip??? ;-)

Happy Birthday, Michelle (and belated welcome, too!)! Hope it's been a good one--nice and drooly, of course. :-) IF OCTOBER 2 IS YOUR BIRTHDAY . . . you're diplomatic and an excellent homemaker and would make a first-rate teacher. Your interests are history, religion and archaeology, and you love to travel. Life recently has not been a bed of roses, but if you're ready for responsibility, success is in the making. You need to subsidize your health with vitamins and fitness; avoid refined carbs. 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Guidry wins #25 aided by Dent's homer & Pinella's fielding 1980 Larry Holmes retains WBC heavweight title defeating Muhammad Ali 1980 Michael Myers (D-Pa), is 1st rep expelled in over 100 years (ABSCAM) 1983 Carl Yastrezemski's last at bat 1984 3 cosmonauts return after a record 237 days in orbit 1984 Richard Miller, becomes 1st (former) FBI agent, charged with espionage 1986 Sikhs attempt to assassinate Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi 1988 Police breakup domestic disturbance between Mike Tyson & Robin Givens 1990 US Senate votes 90-9 to confirm David Souter to the Supreme Court 1990 Radio Berlin International's final transmission (links to Deutsche Welles of West Germany); final song is "The End" by the Doors

Michelle, I am so sorry I missed your birthday! My excuse is that the boys' school had open house yesterday and I had passed out from shock after their teachers kept telling me I had 2 very good, well-behaved kids;-)! Anyway, since you haven't claimed a keep yet, I'm hoping this will do. Happy Birthday!! (thanks to Rika for letting me "borrow" her pic)

Superlative review of Clint Eastwood's Mystic River in today's NY Times. What a cast--Sean Penn, Kevin Bacon, Laurence Fishburne, Tim Robbins, Laura Linney, Marcia Gay Harden. Some excerpts, in case you can't access the URL: Dark Parable of Violence Avenged By A. O. SCOTT "Mystic River" is the rare American movie that aspires to � and achieves � the full weight and darkness of tragedy. . . Mr. Eastwood and his screenwriter, Brian Helgeland, have also been faithful to the sense of place that makes Mr. Lehane's book a superior piece of crime fiction. Much of the dialogue has been plucked directly from the pages of the book, and it retains the salty, fatalistic tang of the ungentrified streets of Irish-Catholic Boston. . . . What gives the movie its extraordinary intensity of feeling is the way Mr. Eastwood grounds the conventions of pulp opera in an unvarnished, thickly inhabited reality. There are scenes that swell with almost unbearable feeling, and the director's ambitions are enormous, but the movie almost entirely avoids melodrama or grandiosity. Mr. Eastwood has found actors who can bear the weight and illuminate the abyss their characters inhabit. Mr. Penn, his eyes darting as if in anticipation of another blow, his shoulders tensed to return it, is almost beyond praise. Jimmy Markum is not only one of the best performances of the year, but also one of the definitive pieces of screen acting in the last half-century, the culmination of a realist tradition that began in the old Actor's Studio and begat Brando, Dean, Pacino and De Niro. But Mr. Penn, as gifted and disciplined as any of his precursors, makes them all look like, well, actors. He has purged his work of any trace of theatricality or showmanship while retaining all the directness and force that their applications of the Method brought into American movies. The clearest proof of his achievement may be that, as overpowering as his performance is, it never overshadows the rest of the cast. This tragedy, after all, is not individual but communal, even though each character must bear it alone. Mr. Bacon, even-keeled and self-effacing, is superb, as is Mr. Fishburne, whose humor and skepticism keep the movie from being swallowed up in gloom. . . Mr. Robbins, in some ways, faces the greatest challenge, since he must play a man whose damaged personality is an unstable alloy of vulnerability and violence, na�vet� and cunning. You want to feel sorry for him, but he also scares you. Which is the effect he has on Celeste, who provides the film's most haunting image of terror and heartbreak, just as Annabeth, emerging from the shadows near the end, articulates with frightening clarity the ruthlessness that passes, in this fallen world, for justice. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/03/movies/03MYST.html?th

You'll recall that this was one I had picked out for YKW. :-(

Wow! I want to thank all of you for such wonderful birthday greetings! The graphics and pictures are wonderful. I even shared them with my husband late last night. I wasn't around much online yesterday. My 2 3/4 yr old daughter had a playdate in the morning and then I had to leave immediately for my afternoon date with my dh. We did go see UTTS and it was a nice date movie. Loved the scenery and the remodeling on her villa reminded us of the remodeling we've done/doing on our home. Then we had a wonderful dinner at a cozy restaurant. Finished the evening at my parents' house with apple pie made at a local orchard/restaurant (where we had dinner). It was a lovely day. Then to come home to ODB. Brilliant way to end the day. DH has agreed to go see LA and GWAPE with me in the theatres. Yeah! We did see a trailer for LA and as expected it was mostly HG. Did see the kiss scene and CF running toward the lake. I've never seen him on the big scene before. Even those few seconds made me feel warm and fuzzy. Thank you again. I feel most welcome here. :) Michelle

You're very welcome. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THR weighs on the screener issue, using American Splendor [Ed note: a must see] as its prime example of the adverse impact. New screeners policy shakes up Oscar race By Gregg Kilday If the MPAA ban on screeners holds, will this year's Oscar race be inevitably altered? Until the late '80s, video screeners weren't even part of the Oscar game. One of the first successful screener efforts was for the French film "Camille Claudel," for which Isabel Adjani won a best actress nomination in 1990. "I remember running into an another actress who told me she had just seen the film on tape and she was blown away by the performance," recalls Melody Korenbrot, who oversaw that campaign. But even without resorting to such strategies, indie films still occasionally triumphed. Pundits hailed 1986 as the year of the indies when William Hurt and Geraldine Page won the top acting awards for "Kiss of the Spider Woman" and "The Trip to Bountiful," respectively. "I worked on both campaigns," Bruce Feldman remembers. "We didn't have screeners, and so in the case of 'Bountiful,' which opened Dec. 22, we had to do an incredibly aggressive screening campaign -- screening it anytime, anywhere, morning, noon and night. So it's not impossible to do." But it is difficult given the number of films involved and this year's shortened Oscar schedule. By MPAA head Jack Valenti's own count, the studios sent out 68 screeners last year. Given that most of them were issued in December, and with most voters marking ballots by mid-January, diligent Academy members were asked to consider more than one film a day. While Valenti charges that screeners have made Academy voters "lazy," working members of the Academy as well as older retirees are likely to be hard-pressed to see all the titles competing for their attention without the convenience of screeners. Clearly, the number of screeners circulating throughout the industry has gotten out of hand in recent years. And there's no denying that some of them have made their way onto eBay and into the hands of pirates. But in their blunderbuss approach to the problem, the major studios are probably shooting their own specialized film divisions in the foot. In the rush to adopt the new policy, no one seems to have taken a hard-eyed cost-benefit look at the problem. Certainly, a company like New Line Cinema has reason to hold back screeners for a highly anticipated film like its "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King." It's already fated to make millions -- Oscar noms will just be added feathers in its crown -- and it's also sure to be high on the pirates' most-wanted list. On the other hand, "American Splendor," from New Line's Fine Line division, stands to gain a lot more than it could potentially lose from a screener-assisted Oscar campaign. Having grossed $5 million since it was released in August, it might enjoy a wider theatrical release and would definitely get a boost in home video revenue if it wins Oscar attention. It's also safe to say that no street hawker in Times Square or Hong Kong is working overtime trying to palm off the hot new flick starring Paul Giamatti. But the MPAA's one-size-fits-all rule doesn't allow its member companies to make individual decisions on a title-by-title basis. Throughout this week's controversy, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has maintained a studied neutrality. It encourages its members to see movies in theaters and hasn't taken a stand on the screener issue. But if the ban sticks and, when nominations are announced Jan. 27, if the number of films nominated appears to have been drawn from a smaller pool than either the Golden Globe nominations to be announced in December or last year's Oscar lineup, it will take some of the sheen off of Oscar's gold. And if that happens -- to steal one of the slogans of the moment -- the pirates will have won.

Aha! The real reason behind the reluctance to "audition?" GWYNETH ARRANGES PRIVATE SCREENING OF FILM FOR JEALOUS CHRIS Devoted GWYNETH PALTROW has insisted on a private screening of her new movie SYLVIA for boyfriend CHRIS MARTIN - as he's worried about the explicit sex scenes in the film. The SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE beauty is aiming to pour oil on troubled waters by letting her COLDPLAY beau see the scenes for himself before the film opens in America later this month (OCT03). Paltrow plays tragic poet SYLVIA PLATH in the biopic, and the film depicts her getting steamy with husband TED HUGHES, played by British actor DANIEL CRAIG. And, according to British tabloid THE DAILY STAR, Paltrow wants to appease IN MY PLACE singer Martin, who's concerned about the sexual content. A source says, "Gwyneth is aware the scenes could be shocking. She's told Chris all about them but she wants him to see the film for himself before anyone else. "She and Chris are very sensitive about these things. She doesn't want to turn up at the premiere and upset Chris over some silly love scene." 01/10/2003 01:52

LOL! I think you've got it, Mari. No way, Mr-Only-Nuzzles-Necks-on-Screen would do explicit love scenes. Am far more distraught now at what might have been. ;-)

GWAPE's makers (Pathe) are fighting back: Oct. 04, 2003 Academy screener ban furor grows in the U.K. By Stuart Kemp LONDON -- Several high-profile British-based industry executives are up in arms over the decision by the major studios to ban the use of video and DVD screeners ahead of next year's Academy awards. The group, which includes reps from several top-flight independent distributors, high-profile producers and the chiefs from BBC Films and FilmFour, issued a statement Friday expressing their shock at the MPAA decision. The group is spearheaded by Pathe U.K. managing director Francois Ivernel, who heads up the British-based production, distribution and sales company owned and operated by French-giant Pathe Entertainment. "The independent film industry in the UK is deeply concerned. It is a unilateral decision that is delivered late in the day for those structuring campaigns to promote awareness of independent films," reads the statement. "It is the quality films that are distributed on limited theatrical release that will be most disadvantaged. This decision is a blow to the diversity and creativity of independent cinema around the world. It is even more unjust to the talents involved, be they producers, directors, actors, or heads of department, all of whom gain recognition from such awards." The statement sent out by Ivernel -- one of anger and frustration over the decision -- is backed by a large proportion of the British independent film community. Distribution names on the sheet include current Momentum Pictures managing director David Kosse, UGC Films U.K. co-chief Emma Davie and Optimum Releasing managing director Will Clarke. The film divisions of broadcasters the BBC and FilmFour are repped by BBC Films chief David Thompson and FilmFour head Tessa Rossa. Also signing off on the stance are indie producers Deepak Nayar ("Bend it like Beckham"), Graham Broadbent ("Millions"), Andy Paterson ("The Girl with the Pearl Earring") and Marc Samuelson ("Good Omens"). Director Roger Michell ("Changing Lanes") has also added his name to the furor. It follows the decision by the major studios to ban screener tapes, a ban that earlier this week was expected to extend to tapes for next year's Orange British Academy Film Awards, organized by the British Academy Of Film and Television Arts. United International Pictures chairman and CEO Stewart Till said Wednesday (Oct. 1) it was "an inevitable corollary" that screener tapes would not be sent out by the studios for BAFTA screenings. At the time of the official decision, Ivernel said he didn't think it fair to change the rules right before the campaigns were all due to begin. The British reaction joins a groundswell of opinion from the global independent community that the decision is unfair. The U.K.-based distribution industry, spanning both the overseas outposts of the studio releasing arms and the independents, are planning to get together next week to decide on whether or not the independents will continue to send out tapes to Academy and BAFTA voters.

The British reaction joins a groundswell of opinion from the global independent community that the decision is unfair. So the "no Global" is all of a sudden "Global"? Back in the 70's when "studio films" were more like the "independent films" today, this problem did not exist. I say to these very priviledged, largely overpaid industry people to get their deri�res to the theaters and stop making a fuss. GWAPE will be seen, just get the screenings set. (Karen),LOL! I think you've got it, Mari. No way, Mr-Only-Nuzzles-Necks-on-Screen would do explicit love scenes. Am far more distraught now at what might have been. ;-) ROTF!!!

I've seen Daniel C. kiss (The Ice House) and he ain't bad!!! I was going to post that Times review for Mystic River, Mari. What praise for Penn! If a mite overboard.... Jimmy Markum is not only one of the best performances of the year, but also one of the definitive pieces of screen acting in the last half-century, the culmination of a realist tradition that began in the old Actor's Studio and begat Brando, Dean, Pacino and De Niro.

So who for The Da Vinci Code Casting? Langdon: The past year had taken a heavy toll on him, but he didn't appreciate seeing proof in the mirror. His usually sharp blue eyes looked hazy and drawn tonight. A dark stubble was shrouding his strong jaw and dimpled chin. Around his temples, the gray highlights were advancing, making their way deeper into his thicket of coarse black hair (not sure about this for Colin).... ....."Although Professor Langdon might not be considered hunk handsome like some of our younger awardees, this forty-something academic has more than his share of scholarly allure. His captivating presence is punctuated by an unusually low, baritone speaking voice, which his female students describe as 'chocolate for the ears'" (This, however, works)

Okay, I'll take the bait! RE: So who for The Da Vinci Code Casting? Colin can die his hair black again. The last time he did the results were superific and it you absolutely insist on blue eyes he can wear colored contacs Chocolate is a very goof thing!

Obviously meant to type *good*--- Sorry Karen I had to rectify that!

(Karen)Am far more distraught now at what might have been. ;-) Me too;-( (Mari)Aha! The real reason behind the reluctance to "audition?" I missed your ed. note at the top, LOL, that was the first thing I thought of while I read;-) 'chocolate for the ears'" I think that could go very well with a 'mouth that holds cinnamon'