Bridget Jones' Diary

I have been away for a long time and just read some discussions. What is Bridget Jones' Diary? Does it have anything to do with Darcy or Colin? Thanks, Chey

It's a novel in the form of a diary, set in London in 1996. The every day life of a London yuppie. Among other things, she get's a bit obsessive about P&P2. It's not available in the US, but Bookserve is getting copies of it for Pemberlians. Let me know if you are interested.

I thought I would start this board, just as a way to discuss the current week's installment and when we finally get the book we can talk about it here.

As "Clueless" is to "Emma", so "Bridget Jones's Diary" is to P&P (or P&P2 in particular).

Bridget Jones is now available at Bookserve! They have it especially for Pemberley people, and you will need to order by phone or email - it's not on their database. Here is the message from our man Doug "We now have copies of the book by Helen Fielding in our possession and ready to ship for $10.18 (plus S + H). Please notify your people that they may place their orders with me via email (doug@bookserve.com) or by phone (615) 287-4205." Apparently there are about seven or eight copies left right now, so hurry! Please say that you are from Pemberley. Pemberley will receive a small percentage of your purchase price to help keep us going. I'm hanging out for my copy....

Well I think the NY Times is monitoring this website because today, in the Arts section is an article entitled, "Men as Oafs, a Genre with 17th Century Roots." A title like that is bound to catch my attention!! Anyway, it mentions Bridget and, according to the publisher Viking, the book will be out in July. I wonder if it will have a glossary in the back. I have a hard enough time reading the weekly installments at the Telegraphs. I don't have a clue as to who many of the people she mentions are. Fo those who have read the book, is it as topical?

I read the book in about three hours. I think I'm going to go back and reread it, since I tend to skim things the first time. Anyway, I think the "Men as Oafs" refers to the relationship she has with her boss. It starts off with really cute flirting via office e-mail about the length of Bridget's skirt and develops into a sexual relatioship with her getting hurt in the end. I too was lost to some TV show references and so on, but all in all it was a great read. Bridget's extremely paranoid, thinking that everything is her fault, and she's worthless. Very neurotical but extremely funny. Especially the part about her mother leaving her father and having a fling with a younger Spanish man (I think it's Spanish, it's been a while since I read it), who turns out to be not as nice as originally thought.

Just a follow up, on the BJ at Bookserve post. Unfortunately, and this arose because of a miscommunication with bookserve, although the price of the book is $10.18, they are charging $10 shipping and handling because they imported them from england. I hope this doesn't cause disasters for anyone - if we'd known about it we would have let you know earlier.

actually julio was portuguese. I loved when the police were after them. and mark darcy comes to the rescue. Daniel was a CREEP!!!! love jude, sharon (reminds me of you Karen!) and Tom!!!

Didn't you love it when Tom went missing and they freaked out about him only to find out he had a nose job? Very entertaining.

Oh yes!! Poor Bridge, and to be jealous that Jude called the police and Bridge is his best friend!!! Actually, I loved Perpetua well after she told Daniel that she was quitting. Oh And now back to the studio;) LOL!!!!!

Uh oh, I remind you of Shazzer!! Since I don't have the book in my hot little hands--that is, yet--I'll have to go back through the Telegraph installments to see what I think of that!! ;-)

she's great karenr she speaks her mind, is tough and lovable at the same time!!!!

So why doesn't Mark D go after her?? She wouldn't care if she noticed a little bald spot starting out. I just love those little bits he's been doing in the weekly installments....

Because he's involved with Natasha? and I think he was a little put off by her at their first meeting. Plus everybody was pushing for them to get together and maybe it annoyed him.

Ok. I got my copy today and devoured it in one sitting. What a HOOT!. I found the Telegraph site, but the earliest diary entry I can find is from November 1997, when BJ is missing the plane.... are there any between the end of the book and this, and if so, where would I find them?? And I agree, CJ would be ideal to play Mark. I very much suspect he won't however. He's too determined to throw the Darcy monkey off his back...

Ok. I got my copy today and devoured it in one sitting. What a HOOT!. I found the Telegraph site, but the earliest diary entry I can find is from November 1997, when BJ is missing the plane.... are there any between the end of the book and this, and if so, where would I find them?? And I agree, CF would be ideal to play Mark. I very much suspect he won't however. He's too determined to throw the Darcy monkey off his back...

Doh! I thought I'd stopped the first post. oh well.

No, Kate, that's the beginning--in November (around the 8th as I recall). I can't remember if the early ones had the links going all the way back, but there were links entitled "What's Happened So Far..." or something like that. You may want to do the Search thing for Bridget Jones and all the installments will be listed. That's how I got to the beginning. Boo hiss, I haven't received my copy yet. BTW, I can't figure out what happened to Rufus and Kim Bassinger was supposed to be on!! Totally different lineup. :-(

Natasha what a B*#@h. But you do get the feeling that MD is interested in BJ. As he said, what he was wearing wouldn't exactly score any points with many people. I find myself agreeing with things that BJ does. Like standing MD up because she is blowdrying her hair. I've done that!!! well don't want to give too much away for the nubiles who haven't read it;)

Kate: Didn't you post the address of a website that dealt with British slang? I've got a few words that I need translated and I have a feeling that one of them couldn't be explained adequately here or at Ramble!!

KarenR: here it is http://www.dur.ac.uk/~dgl3djb/ukus.html

Thanks, Kate. I'll give it a go. Started reading Bridget last night, but am only about 100 pages into it. So, if Natasha our Caroline Bingley character or what?? I really can see the P&P now with the book. The weekly installments don't do it. Can you believe the e-mailing between her and Daniel? Naughty naughty!

i didn't see the connection until towards the end of the book. i don't think there is a big one during the beginning or even the middle. so karen what do you think of Sharon?????

What a great book! I was laughing hysterically the whole time I was reading it. I kept reading my husband passages outloud--he didn't find them quite as funnt as I did, but he thought they were pretty humorous. I was suprised at how much Bridget worried about her weight--I thought that was much more of an American than a European thing. One of my favorite passages: "Wise people will say Daniel should like me just as I am, but I am a child of Cosmopolitan culture, have been traumatized by supermodels and too many quizzes and know the neither my personality nor my body is up to it if left to its own devices. I can't take the pressure. I am going to cancel [the date] and spend the evening eating doughnuts in a cardigan with egg on it." Favorite phrase that hasn't made it to America: her discussion of men's emotional f*ckwittage. What a beautiful phrase! Question for you Brits out there: what they heck does she mean when she talks about being eaten by an Alsatian? I was also very excited when she started mentioning Pride and Prejudice and had the idea of interviewing the stars. I thought the interviews with Colin Firth would be there, but I guess those appeared later in the newspaper column? I'll have to go to the link and check them out.

Alsatian it is a german shepherd;-)

Did anyone read today's installment. LOL! especially about men thinking they've done SO MUCH housework if they pick up a dish and carry it into the kitchen! But poor BJ now has bigger problems on her mind.....

ain't that typical of men?

Yes, quite funny and true to life. Must take my teaspon to the sink and run it under the water... Ah, so much hard work to do. Liked the Jodie Foster comment as well!

Kill all jellyfishers in the world!!!

Oooh yes, what is that Rebecca up to??? Had another thought about Kate's comment, could you ever imagine a Darcy or, any Darcy for that matter, doing such menial things as washing dishes? Nevah!! But that doesn't explain Jeremy! ;-(

could you ever imagine a Darcy or, any Darcy for that matter, doing such menial things as washing dishes? Nevah!! All I can say is, a Darcy or any Darcy would be much more attractive if they did ...."Put your feet up, darling, and let me deal with this".... now that is the way to my heart. ;-)

I much prefer the Fed Ex'd Valentine's Day instructions with a driver to whisk me off to wherever....although the too-small red slip...was a waste!!

KarenR: Oooh yes, what is that Rebecca up to??? She really wants to become friends with Bridget Jones now that her star is shining and she wants someone really beautiful to play her in the upcoming movie!!!! She's so jellyfishing jealous that BJ has gorgeous Mark Darcy and interviewed Colin Firth that she just want to get the IN on everyone that BJ is around. Now back to the studio......;-)

Did you see that article about Ruby Wax? I nearly fell off my chair when it said right at the beginning that she was from Evanston, where I grew up. So far, all I've found is her parents' address/phone number. I can't visualize the street though. Does anyone know how old she is? Must check to see if my HS has an alumni database on the web? ;-)

Ruby wax is in her mid 50's i believe she's quite famous in uk and had a show on fox last summer it was okay but she interviewd people like pamela anderson lee who would flash her fake breasts for ruby. RW also was script supervisor for ABFAB.

Thanks, in the picture she didn't look like mid-50s. Is this just another case of you youngins just thinking that anyone older than you is over the hill?? ;-)

hmmm your right she doesn't look that old, but on her tv show she was fat! and not pretty at all! And I would hope you know that i don't think anyone over 40 is over the hill yet;D Ruby looks like she lost a bit of weight maybe a couple of stones;D maybe she's only mid 40's, but wow she looked old on her tv show, honestly.

OK, OK you're forgiven!! I remember seeing little bits about the TV show, but never watched it. Did you see the mention about making the movie of BJD on one of the other topics? It will certainly be interesting to see who they will cast. A complete unknown for Bridget? Too bad, I could really see her as an Ally McBeal type person, although Bridge is horror on horror the big 3-0!!!

Touche! Karen Touche! hows the snow by the way. I'm unknown, thirty and singleton tho' singleton with child; with the pretty little girl that Bridge wants so bad. I refuse to have my colours done and i hate my mother. Oh no! I AM BRIDGET!! So where's my Mark??????????

The snow was hideous because most of it wasn't snow, but slush. Weighed a ton!! I cleaned off my steps early in the morning and pushed the junk off, but when I left later on there was about 3 inches. Good thing I wore my wellies because it was a wet mess. My car is frozen shut--even though the doors are unlocked--I can't open them!! Hopefully, within a couple of days this mess will go away. Then to see all my dead little plants underneath!! BWAHHH!

#17 Reprised (Kate) I found the Telegraph site, but the earliest diary entry I can find is from November 1997, when BJ is missing the plane.... are there any between the end of the book and this, and if so, where would I find them?? After having read the book and figuring out that there were *indeed* a number of missing months from the Bridget saga, I decided to check into it in my usual pitbull fashion! Using the awesome power of the web, I e-mailed the Telegraph and yesterday received the following answer from etcetera's features editor: "As to what happens between the end of the book and the start of the columns, Im afraid only Bridget Jones knows. Maybe Helen Fielding could bring out 'Bridget Jones's Diary: The Wilderness Year (or so)'. In any case, If I hear anything to help you, I shall let you know." So there you are. Those missing months do no exist, so we're not likely to know what happened between her and Mark that broke them up. :-( OK, so who's going to e-mail Helen?????

i will, just get her email address and i'll email her.

Why is this my job???? I'd suggest her UK publisher. What was it? Picador or something?

because karen you get the job done and the publisher will most definitely NOT give me her email address. you have your ways;-) i mean you emailed the telegraph:) in the words of Fitzwilliam Darcy, 'Go to it!'. hahahahahahaha!!!!

Reading the recent posts, they seem to assume that there is no gap - she has only been going out with Mark for a short time - months, not one and a half years - so it's almost as though she picked up the story where she left off.

I don't have my book here with me, but it ended around the holidays, Christmas, right?? The columns start at the beginning of November, which I believe is November of the following year because in Week 7 (Christmas Day), she and Mark are together at her parents home and she says: "Is always thrilling when there is something going on between you and someone else and no one else knows. Two Christmas days ago exactly it seemed as though Mark and me were going to start going out, then it all went wrong and Mum and Una were furious but now they do not know we are back together...." "Two Christmas days ago" is two years ago, when Mum and Una were plotting to introduce Bridge to Mark and then they met at Una's Turkey curry dinner. Something happened between when the book ended and November, when the diary picks up, and they broke up. That's just how I read it.

Will BJ's Diary be hugely popular in the US, as it is in the UK? Or will the cultural allusions (TV shows, personalities etc) cause a problem? Perhaps, some slight re-editing is needed. Do you have Blind Date and Gladiators on US TV?

We have singled out and gladiators on tv here stateside. similar to your blind date and gladiator show. And she is fairly popular already. I read an article in NYT that states that booksellers have been deluged with orders for this book. Viking Press has picked it up and will release it hardback in August.

I think some of the people she refers to will be a problem, but we'll muddle through. I do hope it isn't changed. Maybe a glossary at the back would suffice, but then again, when you have to explain jokes, they lose something. Even though I didn't *get* all the pop/political culture references, I still enjoyed the book and don't think I missed all that much.

I don't have my book here with me, but it ended around the holidays, Christmas, right?? The columns start at the beginning of November, which I believe is November of the following year because in Week 7 (Christmas Day), she and Mark are together at her parents home and she says: "Is always thrilling when there is something going on between you and someone else and no one else knows. Two Christmas days ago exactly it seemed as though Mark and me were going to start going out, then it all went wrong and Mum and Una were furious but now they do not know we are back together...." "Two Christmas days ago" is two years ago, when Mum and Una were plotting to introduce Bridge to Mark and then they met at Una's Turkey curry dinner. Something happened between when the book ended and November, when the diary picks up, and they broke up. That's right, and yet, when the column entries start, she talks about the relationship as though they've just started going out together.... maybe we'll have to email Helen F and ask her!

I think some of the people she refers to will be a problem, but we'll muddle through. I do hope it isn't changed. Maybe a glossary at the back would suffice, but then again, when you have to explain jokes, they lose something. Even though I didn't *get* all the pop/political culture references, I still enjoyed the book and don't think I missed all that much. I hope they don't change it (other than to add a glossary.... f***wittage might need some explanation?? ;-) ) but otherwise they should just leave it. It's good for people to have to try to understand each other - it's just that americans in general (please note - no disparaging comment intended here - just a comment on my experience as a non-american in the US) are less used to accomodating other cultural and linguistic experiences than people from other places. I mean, if we could watch Bull Durham and Major League, and be able to work out what was going on without any understanding of baseball, or read a book like Primary Colors, with a fairly minimal understanding of the ins and outs (gee, that was freudian...) of American politics, and get it, then I think you all will be able to deal with the odd inexplicable cultural reference. (Not being british, they were inexplicable to me too, though the language was probably more accessible)

Maybe, those of you who have British Cultural Backgrounds could help construct a glossary of terms right here.It would be a great contribution.towards cultural communication. I had no problem with the terms..or with the culture which, incidentally, I admire tremendously,.....it was the proper names ...political? televison personalities? pop stars? Anyway, it's a great read.

Why don't you post the names and we'll see if we can identify them?

Kate Why don't you post the names and we'll see if we can identify them? Thank you for your kind offer. Unfortunately,my copy of the book is on loan, but as soon as it is returned I shall take you up on your offer.

That's right, and yet, when the column entries start, she talks about the relationship as though they've just started going out together.... Didn't it also mention that Mark had recently come back from being in Japan. Maybe there wasn't a *real* breakup or anything, just that work took him out of the country for an extended time???? maybe we'll have to email Helen F and ask her! Better yet, Kate, Helen F is bound to come here when her book is published to do some promotional stuff. Maybe you and Jane E can go to a book-signing and ask her THE QUESTION!! Just be sure to put lots and lots of Post-It Notes of various colors in the book!!

i want to know why was he in Japan. what is he doing???? and wasn't he living there also. so bj only saw him sporadically.

Isn't he described as some big-time human rights lawyer? And wasn't he in the4 US before the book started?

Better yet, Kate, Helen F is bound to come here when her book is published to do some promotional stuff. Maybe you and Jane E can go to a book-signing and ask her THE QUESTION!! Just be sure to put lots and lots of Post-It Notes of various colors in the book!! LOL!. Regrettably, I suspect I will no longer be here when she arrives.... so someone else may have to do the job!

Just read through all the postings here. Thanks everyone for your replies to my question about whether BJ's Diary will be as popular in the US as it is in the UK. I think it's a really great book - and so do all my friends at work!!We've started quoting from it to each other...."very Bridget Jones". :-) Karen, I think the Daily Telegraph installments are intended to be partly a social commentary on the week's events in the UK, and so a lot of the references are topical (the Millenium Dome, Campaign for the Countryside etc). Laura, HF is supposed to have two sequel novels in the pipeline. I know that she wrote the Diary in the Independent for a couple of years before joining the Telegraph, and that is where you might find out about the missing year(s) in Mark & Bridget's relationship. But if there are a couple of sequels due, then HF must take us on from Christmas 1995! We can't just jump to November 1997! Kate, I really do think CF will play Mark Darcy. I don't think he's determined to "get the Darcy monkey off his back". He has said in interviews that he really appreciates the attention which Darcy has given him, and I'm sure he must see that the Mark Darcy role is one that most actors would covet, and should be his by right. Who else would play it? The book is very "hot", and the movie is being made by Working Title who made "Four weddings and a Funeral" - it's a plum role, and surely one that he can't r fuse! :-) Trina, the interview between Bridget and CF is given in full in one of the new websites listed in Ellen's FirthFAQ. I think it's called Colin's Timeline (the word "timeline" is mentioned, anyway. Just scroll along to BJ's Diary. Thanks, Laura, for starting this topic! I love the book (so many favourite bits, like when she tries to set the video recorder!) and the CF connection (hopefully!) is an added bonus. BTW Does everyone on the other topics (#67,69,59 etc) know about this?

she wrote the Diary in the Independent for a couple of years before joining the Telegraph, oh my goodness. I'll have to go looking for that. The book is very "hot", and the movie is being made by Working Title who made "Four weddings and a Funeral" - it's a plum role, and surely one that he can't refuse I hope you're right. I keeping checking on IMDB for it, and it's not there yet, so if you hear anything definite, please let us know! I was chatting to an acquaintance the other night and we were talking about the old britsh/american language divide and she mentions "f***wittage" and I knew immediately she'd read it! She picked it up in London, and loved it.... so the word is getting out here.

i used f***wittage all the time even before I had heard of Bridget. I use that and f***wit to refer to my ex-boyfriend:) I think he's the biggest one!

Thanks, Bethan, for all the additional info. The local events--even if explained to us--would likely not add all that much to our understanding. Thankfully, Bridget doesn't let us out by including the Clinton refs and the celebrity skiing accidents!! ;-) Kate, I looked ALL OVER the electronic Independent a while ago and its achives don't seem to have anything by Helen Fielding. (When are you going home?) I did find an interview somewhere in which Helen F explained f***wittage, but I didn't print it or write it down. I shall go looking for it again and post later. The features editor at the Telegraph didn't have a clue as to the missing time period, so it probably wasn't in the Independent either.

Kate, I looked ALL OVER the electronic Independent a while ago and its achives don't seem to have anything by Helen Fielding. I couldn't even find the archives, so you were doing better than me. (When are you going home?) some time in August I think. The features editor at the Telegraph didn't have a clue as to the missing time period, so it probably wasn't in the Independent either. Yeah, but they're competitors - it wouldn't be in his/her interest to know anything about it... s/he isn't going to send you off the Independent, is s/he?? ;-)

some time in August Then, unless you are traveling far and wide (i.e., outside of Manhattan), you m might be around when Helen comes to promote the book! I think it's going to come out in July. ;-) Re: Competitor's motivations. The features ed seemed quite nice and if HF isn't working for them now then what's the big deal??? he/she didn't even have to respond to me and even offered to get back to me if and when he/she found out anything.

(lizbeth) Trina, the interview between Bridget and CF is given in full in one of the new websites listed in Ellen's FirthFAQ. I think it's called Colin's Timeline (the word "timeline" is mentioned, anyway. Just scroll along to BJ's Diary. Thanks! Trina

Thanks to Lizbeth's directions, I just went back and re-read that hysterical interview that Bridget did with CF. Sorry if this has been asked before, but was there ever any talk about whether CF actually read that when it appeared in print, and if so, what did he think? I thought she painted a flattering portrait of him myself--ever charming in the face of zealous drooling!

Anglo-American Translation Time I don't have my Bridget here with me, but Rebecca is supposed to be wearing "snookerball-bottomed" jeans or something like that. I know what snooker is. So would this be what we called bell-bottomed pants? Strange, I would never described them as ball-shaped if that's what is meant. Anyway, I was sooo upset after this week's installment that I wanted to slap Bridget for being so dumb. How wrong she was about not cancelling out on the weekend. The jellyfisher is her acquaintance and why should she care if she cancelled out at the last minute. It isn't like Mark is going to go without her. Loved the line about Rebecca's bathing suit being cut up to the chandelier!

Snooker is the UK equivalent of pool. I took it to mean that Rebecca has a pert bum (UK)/ass(USA)! Yep, Bridget has been incredibly dumb. She should have been struck down with an imaginary virus. But it makes the next installment very interesting... will he/won't he?

HE BETTER NOT!!!!! hee hee;)the he'd would join the world class of f***wit's;)

I hadn't heard that line about sitting on a radiator since I was in high school, which was quite a while ago. Didn't think girls pulled that kind of schtick anymore?? ;-)

What!! No one has anything to say about last Saturday's installment?? Incredible! After the dismal feeling I had when that jellyfisher sicced her brother after Bridget the week before, I thought things were looking up. I mean who wouldn't with Mark strutting around the bedroom in barrister mode clad only in a towel!! ;-) Oooowwweeee!! So what's with Mark? Are they breaking up? Is he recalling his first marriage tand the other woman who cheated on him? Is he afraid of his own feelings? What is this yutz doing??? Signed, Nurse Shaz

Ah, but as he drove away he (angrily) wiped a tear from his face (didn't he?). Maybe he's just insecure! Bridget should never have mentioned those dire words "splitting up"! Long interview with Helen Fielding in this month's UK Vogue. There are two sequels (already in the pipeline)to BJ's Diary. HF is currently writing the screenplay for the movie (or was when interviewed for the article. Hopefully it is completed by now) It must be VERY tempting to introduce wet scenes, scenes in showers, scenes clad only in towels, scenes not clad in towels, scenes clad in wet towels etc, etc, etc!

Anger or sad that he was, in fact, going to split up with our neurotic girl? Terrible! Sinjun, a world famous eye, ear, nose and throat man!!

I think that BJ has it all wrong. He is just hurt. His pride was hurt because he thinks she doesn't trust him. IMVHO, of course;)

I agree. I think Bridget just aggravated the situation by trying to "explain." And what was he going to say? "But maybe we should.... (trust each other more?). Love the way BJ & co always turn to Thelma and Louise for comfort!

"But maybe we should.... (trust each other more?). Love the way BJ & co always turn to Thelma and Louise for comfort! Exactly!!! Although, I think he would've proposed marriage "But maybe we should get married!!!" okay wishful thinking on my part. Bridget is an obsessive/compulsive paranoid. After a while, it does get tiresome. We know and Mark knows how crazy he is about her, but she doesn't... She feels with his good looks and her mediocre looks (she thinks) that he will up and leave her for a Rebecca type. But Mark probably sees right past Rebecca and her shallowness, he is not stupid.

I never understood why they would use Thelma and Louise, i mean they die at the end!!! how empowering of a movie is that????

So, in your VHO, Mark is ready to settle down? He's tired of playing the field and can see that Rebecca is probably like that Natasha is the book? All flash and no substance. OK, but then where would Helen go with the columns? Will this turn into Ozzie and Harriet? or Mad About You (which wouldn't be bad)?

no, but i think he is trying to stabilise bridget. mad about you, oh please! ozzie and harriet, i'll throw up!!! I think mark is looking to settle down. why do you think he is sticking around in london and not taking the job in japan????? i think bridget would be another lucy actually!

i made absolutely no sense. what i am trying to say is that mark is looking to stabilise bridget. mark does see thru rebecca because he is a smart man. if he was just a man he would be taken in with her. he loves bridget unconditionally. and he trusts bridget. she doesn't trust him. part of her obsessive/compulsive paranoia.

But this is basically about real live human relationships.... women who feel they are too unattractive for the Mark Darcy's of this world, and that legs that go to the ceiling are more important that anything else.... men who don't communicate... women who worry about every little thing... men who don't understand what the problem is. That kind of stuff.

I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS. I FEEL LIKE CRYING!!! THIS IS HORRIBLE!!!! AS IN THE WORDS OF BJ GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I say that we boycott Helen Fielding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is too much, way too much. How dare she do this to us pariahs!!!!! Karen, that's it I can't take the emotional rollercoaster. I feel like he is cheating on ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I say kill the commie B*****D!!! I hope HF sees this!!!! Oh, can you tell i'm quite pissed!!!!

Laura: that's it I can't take the emotional rollercoaster. I feel like he is cheating on ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I say kill the commie B*****D!!! I hope HF sees this!!!! They open-neck white shirt tells it all. So out of character for him. I can't stand it!!! How can we survive another week!!

AAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!! I hate this story. (Kate) But this is basically about human relationships Shall we add *assholes* to your list of human foibles?? Laura re: rollercoasters Remember the lust that was in his eyes when he saw Rebecca in that high-cut bathing suit. Sometimes they just can't get beyond those urges. Smartness has nothing to do with it--most of the time--and that goes both ways. Evelyn Why can't this be a daily column! This waiting until Saturday is killing me. I'm soooo trying to be rationale here, but I tooo can't stand it. Where is the "and they all lived happily ever after"!! :-(

If it was Happily ever after, then it would be Ozzie and Harriet, your words Karen;) I, too, am trying to be rational, am introducing my Irish friend, Helen to BJ and she will soon enough become quite addicted because i will make her!!! Helen P. my friend says hello!!!!!! Sorry, drinking wine due to totally depression for Bridget!!!! am abouyt to leave to go to liquor store for more!!! Karen call me tomorrow!!! we must talk!!!! this is ridiculous!!!!

Voice of reason here! Remember there are two sequels to the book and Mark and Bridget have broken up before. The relationship is rekindled when he asks her to join him in Paris for the weekend (and she accidently sets fire to the flat!). And premature happy endings could mean that we would lose interest in HF's column! BUT.....what a downer. I much prefer it when he's buying her tight red nighties and calling her "darling" and being sweet. Maybe he's got a good excuse...a business meeting with Rebecca? Or maybe Rebecca is comforting him and he really wants to have Bridget back. Why the open necked shirt though? Wait until next week!!

I knew you would come through, Bethan--or should we call you Miss Optimism!! Why the open necked shirt though? The "white, undone shirt" likely resulted from Rebecca attacking him in the back seat of the cab. But will we *really* ever know??? Re: the two sequals Any news on when at least one of them will be published? You know we want to know why they broke up the first time and how Bridge and Thelma and Louise got along. Would be terrible if Mark brought Rebecca to any neighborhood family Easter egg hunt or some such thing!! Ultra tacky.

(Karen) What!! No one has anything to say about last Saturday's installment?? Incredible! After the dismal feeling I had when that jellyfisher sicced her brother after Bridget the week before, I thought things were looking up. I mean who wouldn't with Mark strutting around the bedroom in barrister mode clad only in a towel!! ;-) Oooowwweeee!! Oh dear! I haven�t been keeping up with the diary lately...obviously I�m missing some seriously juicy stuff. Gotta get there...

(Bethan) Voice of reason here! Remember there are two sequels to the book and Mark and Bridget have broken up before. The relationship is rekindled when he asks her to join him in Paris for the weekend (and she accidently sets fire to the flat!). And premature happy endings could mean that we would lose interest in HF's column! Voice of Reason, Puhleeze!!!!! WHY OH WHY IS HE WITH HER!!!!! Okay to get back to some semblance of sanity here, granted they have broken up before, but we do not know the reason why??? and Why would he be so distraught last week and with the jellyfisher this week???? It just doesn't make any sense. Now, my question is: Does Bridget just let it happen??? or does she go all Fatal Attraction and hop out of the car and confront them??? I can tell you that Rebecca would have no more long legs after I got through with her!!!! hee hee;)

(Nan)Oh dear! I haven�t been keeping up with the diary lately...obviously I�m missing some seriously juicy stuff. Gotta get there... Where you been?? Yes, you are missing some great stuff!! Mark has done some ooo-soo-meltingly stuff lately and seems to be in heat quite often!! Indicated by lots of "mmmmmmms" interspersed. (Laura) or does she go all Fatal Attraction and hop out of the car and confront them??? Interesting choice of movie analogies...Like a bunny rabbit? a boiled bunny rabbit? Or perhaps like an attendee at a Tarts and Vicar party who has a bunny tail pinned on her arse? ;-) Definitely time to get Tom, the fag hag involved. Bridget needs serious direction now. A dumb Bridget would show up drunk on his doorstep, no wait, I did that many years ago. Forget I typed that!!

Nan will back. She is fighting with her suicidal computer.

Well Myretta nothing like bringing us back to real life;) I forget that Bridget is NOT a real character. But, like her, this has happened to me. I was in a restaurant and my boyfriend told me he had to go to graduation party. I saw him with another girl. I was soooo devastated;( hell, I was only 19! but boy did I confront him!!! hee hee:)

Point of information, Please. In last week's installment: What is; Jaffa Cake, who is Jarvis Cocker, and are 1471 calls like caller ID. But it doesn't make sense with "1471 - calls: 12 (better)" Will some friend across the Pond pl. explain . Thank you.

What is; Jaffa Cake Revolting sweet thing, a cross between a cake and a biscuit(cookie). Chocolate covered. Translating cooking terms into American is difficult but in English english, I would describe it as made of sponge, filled with jam and topped with chocolate! who is Jarvis Cocker Pop singer. Skinny, bespectacled. But it doesn't make sense with "1471 - calls: 12 (better) She calls 1471 which tells her the number of the last caller. I presume she keeps dialling every time she thinks she has been out of earshot of the 'phone just in case?? Hope that helps.

BTW jam = jelly!

and the jam is orange flavoured, yes? hence the jaffa....

I had a jaffa cake and it is sickly sweet. sorta like our twinkies only covered in chocolate with jam instead of cream. But when depressed, it is the most wonderful thing to eat!!! And poor Bridget is very, very depressed:( I think Mark needs to get off his high horse and run back to her and explain everything!!! And Bridget needs to become the ice woman once again and make him beg to come back!!!!

ooh i meant to say in ireland when in ireland! i had jaffa cake but it was called something else!!!!

Is it just me, or have all the other boards gone dead? When are we moving to spring.net, or have we already done it and all the conversation is going on somewhere else??

kate, i've been using the spring.net since late last week! but my browser seems to be a little screwy lately. very bizarre.

Thanks for the cake details. I just figured it was a basic orange cake from the Jaffa designation as that is a distinct type of orange propagated in Jaffa, Israel. Sorry, Laura, dear, but with all that cream and filling...yuck!! If I'm depressed, just give me chocolate in any semisolid form...ice cream to semisweet morsels to heavenly Nutella!! Evelyn, I believe there is a whole big discussion about the 1471 feature of their telephone system in the book. Not quite Caller ID. Can't give you page and verse as have just lent my book to my local librarian!! Re: Dead Boards And where have you been, Kate? And where are the pictures that you took of your tea party? Haven't seen them posted at Meetings!! Did Nan escape your camera's lens as well? ;-)

What's so screwy Laura?

And where have you been, Kate? And where are the pictures that you took of your tea party? Haven't seen them posted at Meetings!! Did Nan escape your camera's lens as well? ;-) I've been right here. And yes, Nan is not in any photograph. Although mine are still in my camera. So does that mean that nothing has been happening on the Firth boards for the last couple of days???

Ah, Terry:) well sometimes, not all the time, when I log in everything blurs together! I reload and it is fine until I try to drag the mouse to move down the page and it blurs again. very annoying! it also happens on the ramble page at Pemberley. I think its just my browser, but if you could check into it. Would be very very helpful!

Well, *some* of the lack of activity could be Nan's absence as well but you'll have to e-mail me for other possibilities.

I'm sure Laura would be too modest to say anything but she's been writing a modern-day Darcy and Elizabeth story at Pemberley and within the last few chapters, she's included references to the Bridget Jones story. Apparently, Caroline and Bridget are friends, so she has just heard about Bridge and Mark breaking up. Caroline of course knows the jellyfisher, but the best is in today's posting (Chapter 10) where we get a certain person parading around in a towel!! Do check it out.

I forgot to mention its title, "Second Chances."

*blush*

Okay, the deal is Bridget has to dump her friends!!!!! I've only glossed over while trying to use up my whole hour on the computer! Bridget, darling, we thirtysomethings must stick together!! Hee hee I'm finally 30!!! dump the fuckwittage friends and I'll steer you in the right direction!!!!

Oh yeah, and what advice would you have given her after that pathetic phone message he left for her??? Miss *now-that-she's-30-she-thinks-she-knows- everything*??? But I am dying to hear his explanation!!

Ah, I told you that he'd have an "explanation"! But I think Bridget should ignore Shaz and Jude's advice, for a day or so, anyway. I mean, he did ring TWICE and he was sounding "anguished". (I'm a sucker for "anguished!).BTW shades of Mr Darcy in "all right, you've said enough", although not as cutting as "you have said quite enough, madam"! :-)

I think BJ is pathetic. She is, after all over 30 years old and should have enough sense to make up her own mind. I think Mark Darcy could do MUCH better. He must surely see what an airhead she is now. BTW I rather hope Helen Fielding treads carefully. I would hate her to spoil the story before the film, particularly if CF is playing MD.

Listen to your heart, Bridget, not your friends. Everyone has a different agenda. Think long term. A classic case of Men are from Mars...Women are from Venus.

Bridget Jones is from .......... PLUTO

Poor Bridget, she's honest...artless. Hasn't learned how to be devious and calculating. Part of her charm. Sadly, she'll grow-up.

I see the dates have gone nuts again here at Drool. Ah to be the same age in 2036!! Well, after my quickie read this a.m., I reread and now am dying to find out what on earth could Mark have as an explanation. Like Bethan, those "miserables" and "anguished" descriptions now have me thinking along some new lines. But what! I won't buy that he was sooooo hurt by the Sinjun thing. That was laughable. It couldn't possibly have reminded him of the first wife incident. My advice: Slip into bedroom to call Mark without loyal, witty, caring girlfriends around. Say you want to talk and that he should come over. If he agrees, throw Jude and Sharon out and make lots of strong coffee. But then again, what do I know?????

WHAT DID HE DO????? Now, talking to Karen I think that when he says we have lost touch. I think it means communication wise, obviously. But then again, I don't think Mark treats Bridget all that well to begin with. He laughs at her. He doesn't think she says anything brilliant. He uses her like the dumb blonde to his gorgeous person. I think he needs to treat her better. Personally.

I think Helen Fielding has tapped into something really important with BJ's character. If you think about it, most of her problems stem from her very low self-image. She's been told by popular culture (i.e., Cosmo and Vogue) that she's not worth anything because she's not super skinny with big boobs and long legs. A lot of her problems with men (especially Mark) stem from the fact that she doesn't think she's worthy of him, so she always thinks the worse. If she had more confidence in herself, she wouldn't let her friends push her around and she'd give Mark a chance to explain himself. If you remember in the book, he says a few things that show that he really likes Bridget, but she just doesn't see it. Sorry to get on my soap box, but I think a lot of Western women (especially American women) are devastated by hatred of their bodies and their looks, and it really wreaks havoc on their relationships with men.

Yes, Trina, that is a major problem with Bridget. She has a very poor self image and doesn't believe that anyone could love her for herself. I suspect from a physical standpoint there is absolutely nothing deficient about Bridget. She may not be as tall as Rebecca and therefore her legs may not be as long, but I'm sure she is just fine. In the book, when she lost 7 pounds, everyone said she looked terrible. Even though Mark is "amused" by her, he does love her. She is not like the other women who throw themselves at him (shades of Fitzwilliam Darcy), Bridget is not from a long line of Caroline Bingleys. Is he "slumming" it by going out with her, no I don't think so. He really enjoys her unique outlook on things. But onto what should she do. Another assignment for Tom. Obviously, Mark's message was written in some secret code that only men can understand. Since Tom is a man who has really gotten in touch with his feminine side, he will be the only one who can translate the message for Bridget!!

but to be just amused by someone. I think bridget is probably the most realistic looking person. Rebecca is a fantasy nobody has legs that long and is that gorgeous naturally. plastic surgery helps:) he does belittle her observations as not realistic and maybe they're not, but at least she is trying to partake of whatever conversation is being had. Rebecca just flaunts her good looks and people automatically thinks she is witty.

okay question for all you across the pond or those over the pond here who can answer this question: Who is Delia Smith and is he like Jenny Craig????

Delia Smith is a popular cookery writer and presenter of cookery shows. She's not a he. Who's Jenny Craig????

i meant she thank you arami. Jenny Craig is a dietician sort of on the Weight Watchers or Overeaters Anonymous schpiel. Jenny Craig has her own line of diet meals that you pay an arm and a leg for and while doing her dieting you can ONLY eat her food.

Oh, no, Delia is not like that at all. Healthy and nutritious, but I don't think she's heavily into dieting.

Okay I just clicked into Electronic Telegraph and it said Page no longer there or something like that!! what happened????? NO BRIDGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I CAN'T FIND BRIDGET! and for some reason, I haven't been getting this page for the last few days. The electronic gods are against me.

There's another way, ladies. From the etcetera index page, pick the story just before Bridget, then scroll down to the end and the link to "next story" will get you to Bridget. You've just got to be creative!! Kate, when you get there (to this week's installment), do the previous week thing to get last week's *killer* episode. This week's no biggie (i.e., Mark Darcy's not in it); just some vague references to more English baked goods!! ;-) If you are still having problems with these instructions, let me know. On Monday, I do a cut & paste for someone who can't get into the Telegraph site. I'd be more than happy to e-mail it.

Thanks Karen. I had even sent a desperate message to ET.... And not being able to get this page referred to THIS page, the BJ page of drool... it doesn't show up on my new list. There has obviously been some big feature on Diana-grief being fake, and how we all need to be more self-disciplined....

yah, kate i did too:-) pathetic isn't it. Karen, as always the lifesaver;)

Aw shucks, just a little septic tank ingenuity!

I'm happy to hear that you can still access the Diary. Very ingenious! But this week was all social commentary (some professor has published an article criticising Diana). My mother,a regular Daily Telegraph reader, has quite independently (without any prompting from me!) become addicted to BJ's Diary. She said the latest episode was "very boring...it's not the same without Mark Darcy". I agree!!

(Bethan) it's not the same without Mark Darcy". I agree!! No quibbling here either!! I've decided that Helen Fielding has painted herself into a corner. She cannot come up with a plausible excuse (i.e., one that we would buy) for Mark's having broken up with Bridget. Nothing makes any sense. What kind of second thoughts could be possibly be having...Bridget is getting too serious...what???? BTW, I had lent my book to the branch librarian and she returned it this weekend. When I told her the story was continuing online, the first thing she asked me was what was going on with Mark Darcy. Yes, he is an addicting character!!

i thought this installment was quite funny, actually!

Aw shucks, just a little septic tank ingenuity! Every board needs its seppoes. I actually got an email back from the ET. Dear Kathryn, Please accept our deepest apologies for the trauma you and thousands of others have suffered - this was due to a faulty link on our side. However, we have corrected this problem and Bridget is now waiting for you on the Etcetera home page. Happy reading. . . Yours, etcetera I thought that was very thoughtful of them, particularly as there were obviously quite a few emails to respond to!

Kate, I'm impressed! Full marks to the ET for good customer relations. There must be a lot of BJ addicts out there!

Especially in the States!!! I emailed them and got nothing in return:( Oh, well, Kate did you threaten them with legal action;)

Maybe it was because I sounded so desperate!

omigodomigodomigod it's a super installment... sisterhood is powerful - not only do they kidnap Rebecca, but they give BJ a superb ego boost as well and the CHEST.....and the gentle hand on back of neck... while he escapes to Bhutan (typical man!)

But why Bhutan???? And I ADORE that he left Rebecca there to "deal" with the problem. hee hee!!! But he does still have some 'splaining to do!!

Why Bhutan??? Because I suppose it's the most remote and inaccessible place he can think of!

Good one! Back on course again!! But why is he still hanging round with Rebecca? Bhutan - highly remote, rugged and detached from the world.

Shazzer jumped to her feet...grabbing Rebecca by the ear...twisting Rebecca's arms behind her back now...jerking on the armlock like something out of LA Confidential Now, who was advocating dumping the true and loyal friend depicted here? I couldn't have put it better than Jude though: Rebecca is a "rubbish girlfriend." hee hee There are moments in life...when women are best left to sort things out between themselves...and a man's place is somewhere remote in the Bhutanese highlands Sorry, Markee, that won't cut it!! Is he playing Mr. Innocent here? Men belong in the Bhutanese highlands when women are fighting over a 75% markdown on a Prada bag! Why does he *think* that R&B need to sort things out?? She's rubbish; chuck her out!! Now, Mark and Bridget are the ones who need to sort things out. He hasn't convinced me that he doesn't deserve that f***wittage speech...yet!! Next I felt him touch me on the back of my neck Ooooooohhhhhhh, can't you just feel the electricity! Helen must have just seen ATA and was inspired. ;-)

Sorry, Markee, that won't cut it!! Is he playing Mr. Innocent here? Or Mr Rather Enjoying the Situation! Two women fighting over him, and all he does is smile sweetly, say "talk to you soon" (when is "soon"? )and swan off. And did Rebecca see him touch Bridget on the back of the neck? Talk about fanning the flames....!!!

Now, who was advocating dumping the true and loyal friend depicted here? I couldn't have put it better than Jude though: Rebecca is a "rubbish girlfriend." hee hee It wasn't planned and the advice they normally give, I wouldn't give a dog! Yeah, they came thru in the end. But with girlfriends like that who needs enemies;) Sorry, Markee, that won't cut it!! Is he playing Mr. Innocent here? Men belong in the Bhutanese highlands when women are fighting over a 75% markdown on a Prada bag! HEE HEE!!! But I don't see Prada EVER marking down 75%;p

Question: Thought I'd just throw this one out and see what everyone had to say. Well, did Rebecca shag Mark (as true and loyal friends wanted to know)? Please remember that Mark doesn't seem to have a great deal of self-control in this area. I've seen lots of "mmmmmms" throughout and Mark and Bridget did on their first date in the book, when he whisks her off on Christmas Day.

As Karen knows my answer, here it is for the rest of you. I say no. Because, the way Rebecca says quoting from memory here, "We have a peculiar relationship." Meaning, I'm trying, haven't quite succeeded yet. I think Mark is totally nuts about Bridget, but hell, she can be trying at times. This time away from each other is a good thing. Although, its driving us nuts!!! He doesn't save Rebecca from the *women*, and he is enjoying this little scene. What guy wouldn't actually? He does tell Bridget he'll talk to her soon. How soon. who knows, but he's mad about her. He figured out Rebecca and realised that was NOT what he wants. Sorry for ranting;p

Well, did Rebecca shag Mark (as true and loyal friends wanted to know)? Well, they have been swimming together, and he was looking at her lustfully, and why was his shirt undone in the taxi? And his taste in women (pre-Bridget) has been rather suspect.....a wife who slept with someone else two weeks after the wedding, and the terribly elegant but not-so-nice Natasha!! Doesn't look good! BUT, BUT, BUT, I think he's remaining true to BJ, although perhaps tempted to do otherwise! :-)

(Bethan) why was his shirt undone in the taxi? We better find out what was going on in this scene!!! BTW, I do tend to agree with you that nothing has happened between Mark and Rebecca, even though she is giving it ALL she's got!! I was just interested in others' opinions.

"Garrrrr! You black-livered devils from hell, I'm gonna eat yer kidneys." I've had it with that woman (i.e., Helen Fielding). This roller-coaster ride is driving me nuts! Has everyone seen the May Vogue (U.S.) with the Bridget excerpt? Only a couple of paragraphs introing the BJ phenomenon. I did a quick scan of the article and as had been pointed out to me, the only changes were from stones to lbs. and the use of lottery tickets for 'instants.' Like, duh, we couldn't figure that one out, although multiplying by 14 is rather a pencil-and-paper-type thing!! ;-) Now, I think I've figured out this week's installment. Helen has been v. sly here. Using the name Rebecca must have some significance. First thought was Ken Follet's Key to Rebecca. Ah-ha!!! The columns have been written in code!! So I've consulted the original and (much better) Du Mauier Rebecca and have come to the conclusion that Mark=Maxim and Rebecca=you know.... So Mark/Maxim is taking Rebecca up to Scotland, where there are lots of lochs and he will put her in a boat, drive lots of holes thr ugh the planking and sink the Jellyfish!! Well...at least it stopped me from ranting about what a f***wit Mark still is!!

Hee Hee, Karen, very funny indeed!!! Now, why didn't I think of that!!! But you are right, HF and MD are playing head games here. And it's getting old AND to true to life!!!! Gaaaaaahhhh!!! Bridget needs to find NEW BULL and throw away OLD BULL. Maybe, and this would be wonderful, albeit, childish, "I'll get you back, you sod!" Bridget it's time to call Daniel and show up in Scotland looking all luvvy, duvvy. And totally pissing MD off!!!! Bridget has to stop feeling sorry for herself and DO something. Like dump him!!! He's not worth it, actually. He's got too many problems.

...but I like OLD BULL...lots! Major melting factors at work here. ;-)

...but I like OLD BULL...lots! Major melting factors at work here. ;-) OLD BULL has way too many problems and is not healthy to OLD COW and NEW COW is a jellyfisher!!! hee hee. Karen nobody has any clue what we are talking about!! hee hee.

From the Desk of Dr. Marie Goodall Cofounder and Director of the Institute for the Study of Pathological Narcissism Subject M is a physically superior male of the species, dominant in class structure and much sought after by highly overbred females. Tested monogamous relationship with female member of cruel species that did not last since such permanent-type pair bonding only successful in 3% of animal kingdom. Current relationship cycle falls into parameters for annual monogamy, in which a pair stays together for only one breeding season and then finds new partners. Additional Study Needed: 1. Is Subject M ddriven by insecurity and low self-esteem and acting out of the fog of his own confusion? (Myth of Male Shyness) Initial meetings between Old Cow and Subject Bull may support; empirical evidence that Subject admitted his insecurity and was convinced that Old Current (was then potential New Cow) was not interested in him. Would indicate latent narcissism, fear of rejection compelling him to seek attention from New Cow ad mauseum et infinitum. 2. Does Subject M's behavior show evidence of the Coolidge Effect? "A male, after engaging in a romantic and sexual relationship with a female for a period of time...grows increasingly bored with his previously New Cow...usually referred to as the 'itch'....At present writing there is no cure...." 3. Is Subject M's Current Cow relationship a manifestation of gynogenetic reproduction, wherein a male services females of another species in order to become more attractive to females of own species? Initial Conclusions: Subject M exhibiting classic signs of nonempathetic sociopathic behavior Prognosis: Ass-holicism Next stage: Imminent appearance of Old Cow bovine-icide. Moo

Nah, subject M is just an arsehole! hee hee.

Could anyone explain or describe what is meant by "terraced" houses. To me, a terrace is a balcony, but I know this is not how it is being used. Is it just a multilevel house? In case anyone is wondering what Laura and I are talking about, it comes from the book Animal Husbandry by Laura Zigman. It came out at the beginning of the year and is really funny and a natural for all of us Bridget fans. What you have in this book, is a young woman who gets taken in by this guy at work, he abruptly dumps her, she loses her apt in NYC because she had agreed to live with the guy in a new apt, and moves in with another guy from work who is a well-known womanizer. She begins to n tice certain behaviors and starts doing research into psychology, zoology, you name it to better understand the male animal. She comes up with the Old Cow-New Cow theory. She starts documenting the various phases in relationships and cites analogous behaviors from the animal world, eventually becoming in her own words a "crazy monkey scientist." Highly recommended reading. Should only take a couple of days. BTW, no other insights on Bridget? or Mark? Or is everyone just toooooo disgusted for words?

(Karen)Could anyone explain or describe what is meant by "terraced" houses. A terrace of houses is a row of houses, each joined to the next. In a very densely populated country like England, it is a very common form of housing. London is full of terraced houses built in the last century. Bridget assumes that Mark Darcy will live in a terraced house in Holland Park (a v expensive area of London). That would still be a very desirable home but in fact he lives in the Boltons or somewhere, a small area of Holland Park where the houses are HUGE and magnificent and cost lots and l ts of millions of pounds (even more dollars)! I hope that was the reference to terraced houses that was worrying you.

And he has a detached house to boot!! Karen, similar to row houses here!!

Thanks, Allison, I can understand row houses. We have them here too, but why they are called terraced houses shall remain a mystery. ;-)

Initial Reaction: Can anyone be THAT stupid? Does Helen Fielding really expect us to believe that Mark Darcy is as insecure as Bridget? He has asked her if she *cared* for him before (remember his job offer in Japan). As far as I can see, nothing occurred before the country home weekend that would lead him to believe Bridget didn't *care* for him. Which leaves us with the Weekend from Hell. What really set him off on this path of self/Bridget doubt? It can't be Sinjun--that would be an insult to our collective intelligence. What was it? Perhaps, that Bridget just left him in Rebecca's clutches. Maybe he thought that a sign of caring should be to be more possessive of him in the face of the enemy. He expected a woman in love to claw the eyes out of another female who tried to encroach on her territory. That might explain why he felt his place was in the Bhutanese Highlands--although from there, he would not have a good ringside seat at his desired catfight. Hmmmm, was Mark Darcy forcefed a diet of Dynasty in his childhood. Does he picture himself as Blake Carrington, with Bridget as the wonderful C(K)rystal and Rebecca as Alexis? Is there a swimming pool or a fountain nearby? But, this afternoon, whilst cleaning tree debris off my *rooftop terrace,* the thoughts of Daniel Cleaver kept haunting me. Yes, Mark Darcy is as insecure as Bridget but he has a polished facade--necessary for his profession--that rarely gives him away. He was incredibly hurt by what happened with his marriage and like good old Fitzwilliam William there will always be the nagging question of whether a woman loves him or his wealth/social position. He needs that constant reinforcement because he was hum liated and cuckholded just after the wedding. How would that affect you. Then he goes out with a stream of women who are as real as a three dollar bill and have the emotional depth of a kiddie wading pool. He's insecure and he's been insecure since the first time we've laid eyes on him. He admitted it in the book to Bridget. He didn't think she liked him because he looked dorky at the Turkey Curry Buffet at the beginning. Now, Laura keeps berating me, calling me a Darcy Apologist. Now who needs to apologize for someone who's *perfect.* It's the Lizzy character who's a huge dummy IMO. Kate: I've got a question for you. Mark is a human rights barrister. What would that be equivalent to in the U.S. Is he a defense attorney? Civil or criminal? Is it more in the vein of a Constitutional Lawyer who concentrates on Bill of Rights matters?

Kate: I've got a question for you. Mark is a human rights barrister. What would that be equivalent to in the U.S. Is he a defense attorney? Civil or criminal? Is it more in the vein of a Constitutional Lawyer who concentrates on Bill of Rights matters? Yes, well, I don't know that Helen Fielding really understands the English legal profession, but anyway. In England (among other places) the legal profession is divided into solicitors and barristers. Barristers basically do work in court - they are the ones who wear wigs and gowns and stand up questioning witnesses in episodes of Rumpole...They also do court-related paperwork. Solicitors do everything else - write wills, draft contracts, draft pleadings in cases, etc etc. Barristers are not able to deal directly with clients. If you have to go to court in england, you consult a solicitor, who then retains a barrister on your behalf. Solicitors work in partnerships - often very large, whereas barristers work solo - they share chambers, but their practices are quite separate, and they are entirely dependent on their own skills. Barristers tend to develop specialist skills, so they might specialise in criminal defence, or patent work, or negligence or whatever. But, strictly speaking, they are obliged to take whatever case is offered to them, providing they have time. This is called the "cab rank" principle, and it is meant to ensure that everyone, however unsavoury, gets legal representation (assuming he or she can pay!) So, what's a human rights barrister? Well, given that England doesn't have a bill of rights, this is a fairly rare breed. The example whom I think MD is modelled on is Geoffrey Robertson, who is a barrister who often takes on cases involving human rights issues. "Human Rights" is what you in the US would understand to be first amendment issues (freedom of expression, freedom of religion, association), as well as fourteenth amendment issues (equality, privacy). In some cases it would involve criminal l w issues, but mostly to do with punishment (eg anti death penalty - although there is no death penalty in the UK, the Privy Council, which is a British court, hears death penalty cases from Jamaica, and Geoffrey Robertson and others have been involved in these) and the treatment of prisoners. It might also involve wider human rights issues such as access to education and health, the protection of children, the disabled, homeless rights etc. So the rough US equivalent would be an attorney who does mostly court based work in Bill of Rights matters, but other human rights issues too. What I don't understand is when Helen Fielding spoke of MD being offered a job in Japan. First of all, it's virtually impossible for foreign lawyers to practice law in Japan - apart from the language issues, they are very resistant to giving foreigners licences to practice. And secondly, barristers don't really have "a job" - they work for themselves. As such, they are very dependent on maintaining good and continuous relationships with solicitors - and heading off overseas for long periods would not b a good way of doing this, unless one had a very well established reputation, which I think MD is a bit young to have established.

Karen, just a hurried posting to say I agree with your "insecure MD" analysis. A bad marriage must have left him prone to self-doubtand with a need for reassurance. And in the book, doesn't Bridget's mum say that Mark works all the time and is very lonely (ie not a womaniser) But what exactly is he DOING with Rebecca? Holding hands, discussing whether Bridget loves him? Is he rather enjoying the situation, instead of resolving it? BTW, what do you think HF will do with the screenplay for the movie? Do you suppose she will base it directly on the book, with the P&P parallels, or will she move the story-line forward into different territory? I would think they must be starting filming soon if it's to be this year. Most London based location movies have to be shot in the summer because of the climate and lighting. Unless you want grey days and pouring rain!

Hallooooooo!. Is this a girls only thang, or is there room for a blokey who's just got hooked on BJD? Ho hum, top notch book anyway - kept me up til 5am. Which paper is the diary printed in??

Charlie, you will find that much of our discussion relates to our mutual obsession with the OTHER Darcy, but feel free to join in. Helen Fielding has a weekly BJ's Diary column in the Telegraph, in the etcetera page every Saturday. If you check their archives on the web, you can read previous weeks' installments too, Here's the web address for etcetera http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000126890151976&rtmo=99999999&atmo=99999999&pg=/etc/etchome.html Scroll to the end, and you find a link to BJ

(Karen)Now, Laura keeps berating me, calling me a Darcy Apologist. Now who needs to apologize for someone who's *perfect.* It's the Lizzy character who's a huge dummy IMO. I'm sorry guys, but this man is an idiot!!! His line to Bridget is too ambiguous. What does he want her jumping up and down telling him she loves him? Okay, I will allow that she thinks things more than she actually comes out and says them. But, what I see here is a definite breakdown in communication. Had they just took the time to ask the relevant questions, this could have been avoided. (Kate)So the rough US equivalent would be an attorney who does mostly court based work in Bill of Rights matters, but other human rights issues too. This is something right up my alley. I studied Con Law when Pre-Law at Suffolk University which, btw, has a wonderful Law School. I remember watching a Dalziel and Pascoe show and one of the characters pleaded the 5th amendment,and I distincly remember yelling at my television that HE couldn't plea the 5th!

(Charlie) Is this a girls only thang, By no means, Charlie. Please do join in...and glad welcome :-) I'm behind on my BJ reading...gotta check out etcetera. Get back to you later.

Thanks Kate for the info. That Japan thing really threw me as well. What would he do in Japan...but then again he didn't get real specific...maybe he would be doing what you're doing!! ;-) Nan, get cracking!!

Who else thinks this Gary person is just the person to help Bridget overcome Mark? Well, maybe not overcome him, but shake Mark up a bit. I've been telling Karen that this Gary person has come around for a reason and why else would he show up unexpectantly? I think he likes Bridget.

Re This Supposed Ambiguity I really didn't think any other than Mark meant that he didn't know whether Bridget cared for him NOT that he didn't know whether Bridget cared whether he messed around with Rebecca. But shouldn't he have known after the restaurant incident and WHY didn't he call her as he said. Of course, Bridget should not have waited a week to finally call him. She could have nipped Scotland in the bud. Gary Helen is going to have to give a description of him because the picture I have in my mind is not conducive to being a *love* interest or *jealousy* interest!

But shouldn't he have known after the restaurant incident and WHY didn't he call her as he said. Of course, Bridget should not have waited a week to finally call him. She could have nipped Scotland in the bud. And that be where the trouble lies. She isn't overtly saying to him that she wants him. So he feels it may be better to be with someone who at least tells him what he wants to hear. Bridget internalises everything. She needs to open up more. I am over analysing this to death!!!! UGH!!! Get thee(me) a life!!!! I imagine Gary to be around mid-30. Short dark hair, tall about 6' body that looks like he goes to the gym everyday, but alas, the guy has no brains all brawn! Well, a girl can drool can't she? hee hee

Laura-- I remember watching a Dalziel and Pascoe show and one of the characters pleaded the 5th amendment,and I distincly remember yelling at my television that HE couldn't plea the 5th! } I noticed the same thing!! ----- Karen--Helen is going to have to give a description of him because the picture I have in my mind is not conducive to being a *love* interest or *jealousy* interest! } I'm seeing a refrigerator repair man with a butt-crack!

Toooooo painful! MD needs a good pummeling after this latest stunt! Jerk! (and Magda isn't far behind, b---h!)

I figured it out!!! Mark was a test subject for Viagara!!! And its finally catching up to him. Personally, I think these two people are sluts!!:) Sorry, Karen, I know you're a Darcy apologist, but this is completely out of hand!!!! Bridget, dump the guy and find someone nice. That is my advice.

(Ann) I'm seeing a refrigerator repair man with a butt-crack! Same here. :-)

Re: Saturday's Installment: This is a relationship?? The guy is looking for a cheap lay..fergawdsakes!! Doesn't even have the decency to Buy her flowers...has to steal 'em en route. Give that girl a "Rules" book.

Okay, I'm all caught up with my reading. Of course, I would catch up at a time when it's particularly juicy. Next Saturday seems like eons away :-(

I just read it this week for the first time. It was so nice to be able to read 67 pages straight, without waiting for the next installment. The waiting is going to drive me nuts!

This week's took me a little longer than most to figure out. OK, here goes...ARE YOU LISTENING, HELEN? Mark did tell Rebecca that he's back with Bridget, but she got all teary and lied that she had already made plans to have a dinner party. Being the *sweetie* that he is, he agreed to play along and then she wouldn't have to call off the party and be humiliated in front of her friends. BTW, the Washington Post article on Helen Fielding imminent arrival (officially) on our shores mentions that Kate Winslet is being considered to play Bridget, both having weight problems. Argh, but better than Gwennyth!!

I DO NOT THINK MARK AND BRIDGET ARE BACK TOGETHER!!! He came (pun intended) for one thing and one thing only!!!

Kate Winslet is being considered to play Bridget What a cop out. Bridget is a thirtysomething, Kate Winslett is a hardly twentysomething. What would she know of rejection, heartache and parents desperate to marry her off.

I agree with you, Allison. Bridget is absolutely 30 something. That's half the point. To have an ingenue play the role would be silly. Bridget's clock is ticking, and she's been scarred by years of dating failures. Having a sweet young thing play her would be ludicrous! Karen--Stop being a Darcy apologist!!!

Darcy POV I prefer to view it as *the other, more rational POV*!!! ;-) Are we supposed to really take Bridget's alcohol-pickled peabrain as capable of discerning anything. All we have to do is go back to the source. Elizabeth Bennet, a major peabrain. She didn't deserve Darcy. If she hadn't stumbled into him at Pemberley, she wouldn't have gotten together with him. On the other hand, he was perfect. She was just too proud (and stupid) to see it. American Edition I also noticed that the publishers have changed the use of her calling 1471 to voice mail. Winslet Agreed. No way.

I prefer to view it as *the other, more rational POV*!!! ;-) Are we supposed to really take Bridget's alcohol-pickled peabrain as capable of discerning anything. All we have to do is go back to the source. Elizabeth Bennet, a major peabrain. She didn't deserve Darcy. If she hadn't stumbled into him at Pemberley, she wouldn't have gotten together with him. On the other hand, he was perfect. She was just too proud (and stupid) to see it. I think Karen needs therapy to stop being a Darcy Apologist!!! hee hee. Karen, give it up. The guy is scum!!!! No lower than scum!!!

Karen: Elizabeth Bennet, a major peabrain. She didn't deserve Darcy. If she hadn't stumbled into him at Pemberley, she wouldn't have gotten together with him. On the other hand, he was perfect. She was just too proud (and stupid) to see it Hey , Karen...Marry a guy who doesn't respect your family (I didn't say like) And doesn't respect you and you're in for it ...Big Time. Lizzie put him in his place and he loved her more for it.

Nick Hornby, author of "Fever Pitch", was on line earlier today in the Barnes and Noble chat room. I asked him what British authors currently writing were worth the difficulty to procure from America. He only gave one title: "Bridget Jones' Diary". I had to laugh, because he named probably the only title that I was already familiar with.

On Mark Darcy...I think he's great in the book, and in most of the weekly installments, but I'm not sure what HF is doing to him at the moment. His shirt is always open, and he runs to Bridget's flat, and picks flowers from the garden????!! What's happened to the seriously sexy, dark-suited, rich and successful barrister? Kate Winslett...NO! NO! But, she's mega box office and that's what oftencounts in casting, even if the essence of the book is destroyed. I hope they do what HF wants and cast a relative unknown, who's right for the part, (and CF, of course!)

I knew after I wrote the comment about Elizabeth Bennet that you (Evelyn) might take umbrage. Of course, I'm only referring to the fictional character and not the brilliantly talent actress who played her. ;-) But her family was the pits! Yes, he got put down a bit and corrected the *minor* flaw he had, but she made *major* errors in judgment. She should have listened to big sister who could really peg them. I do have to agree with Bethan. HF's characterization of MD has thus far only been favorable. She has had him rush over on numerous occasions when he sensed Bridget was feeling badly, not only when he wanted a little roll in the hay. She adores him, just like she adores Darcy and Colin. The part that bugs me is that we don't hear what MD has had to say to Bridget. That mysterious explanation. What were those *moonie* things that were going on in their last phone call. Remember, we are only seeing things through Bridget's eyes. I thought we needed another possible POV. Casting Choices I kind of like that Helen Baxendale (???) the only who is playing Cordelia Gray in the Mystery series, "An Unsuitable Job for a Woman" and is the woman that Ross is to marry in "Friends." She is very average looking, but has the potential to be pretty. Also, she is not anorexic. The only thing is I wonder how she would do playing a major ditz. Saying that an "unknown" is being sought is often a ploy used to get major stars to take less $$$$$ for a part, BTW. Gwynneth Paltrow I think is suffering from the opposite of Colin. She is overexposed.

I've often thought that Mr Darcy (P&P model) must have been absolutely besotted with Lizzie, to take on Wickham and Lydia as in-laws (feckless, always in need of financial support), two unmarried sisters-in-law (in need of doweries), a dreadful mother-in-law, and, if Mr Bennet died, a family without a home. Although I guess that Pemberley was large enough to accommodate Mrs B. And he already had Georgiana to provide for. and he'd parted with �10,000 to save Lydia's honour. He got Lizzie, but he's paying h avily! BTW, confirmation that BJ's Diary is shooting this summer...see my message on #59. No mention of casting as yet. How about Jennifer Ehle as BJ? She must be 28 or 29 by now, so an early thirties role would be OK for her. Better than Kate Winslett!

(Bethan) I've often thought that Mr Darcy (P&P model) must have been absolutely besotted with Lizzie...... He got Lizzie, but he's paying heavily He got his $$$worth....or I should say UKP!!! (Karen) but she made *major* errors in judgment. She should have listened to big sister who could really peg them. True. Esp. on Wickam. .

(Bethan) How about Jennifer Ehle as BJ? She must be 28 or 29 by now, so an early thirties role would be OK JE is 28; but she starts filming "Sunshine" with Ralph Fiennes and her mum on July 15th and the shoot goes through December "98!! (IMDb) RF is a perfectionist!!! The woman must be worn-out...has shot two films this spring!!

Well, there you have it. No excuses for MD any more. He was cheating on Rebecca with Bridget, not the other way around, or so he would have her believe. Can someone explain the Mary Bell reference?

Disappointing, especially with the movie about to roll. Maybe MD isn't such a great part after all! Is HF killing off the goose that laid the golden egg?

Any reference HF makes she takes, I'm finding right out of the London Times newspaper. I believe Mary Bell was in Tuesday's paper. I think that Mark Darcy is totally screwed up right now and he's taking Bridget and Rebecca with him. He wants his cake and eat it too. Men love the idea of two women wanting them, and it is feeding his ego. Which has now become the size of Ireland! Fuckwittage isn't his problem its who he wants that is his problem.

Mary Bell is a convicted child killer. she was 19 or 20 when she did it in 1978. she sold her story and a couple of weeks ago there was a big uproar that she was getting money for her crime. Mary Bell has 14 year old daughter who had no clue that she was a convicted killer and recently found out. It destroyed her.

(MD) "I'm involved in this mess with Rebecca. I can't make another mess so soon". (Kate) He was cheating on Rebecca with Bridget, not the other way around, or so he would have her believe. What a rat. He deceived ALL OF US!! Am I glad he isn't on my list of Freebies!!

I will need sometime before I can respond intelligently, rationally, etc. (hee hee). On the way home, I nearly took out about a dozen rollerbladers who began to look like Helen Fielding as I got closer and closer to them with my car.... But NOW, she's going to start making a plan? Is her mouth sewn shut? What about LOVE???? Doesn't she SEE the openings?? Come on, guys, Rebecca is just plain smarter than Bridget. Mark is your basic insecure type. We've been through this before. He *thinks* he is doing the honorable thing staying with Rebecca because SHE is putting something into their relationship, not like Bridget who is tooo insecure to do anything herself. The blind leading the blind. I am betting that there's a big showdown a Jude's wedding. Can't you just see Bridget pushing Rebecca's head into a bowl of punch or something??

Another P&P Observation: Remember at the end which of Lizzy's relations visited them at Pemberley. I seem to recall only the Gardiners and Mr. Bennet. So, while he may have accepted her family, they didn't become frequent Derbyshire drop-ins. ;-) HELEN FIELDING, YOU RUINED MY WEEKEND!!

I think HF has (temporarily, I hope) lost the plot. But BJ does seem very wimpish...why doesn't she fight back instead of day dreaming about marrying Mark? Why didn't she throw the glass of wine in his face and show some character for once? He's a rich successful Cambridge-educated barrister....perhaps the equally rich Cambridge-educated Rebecca is more suitable for him... she's good at organising dinner parties and holidays, she moves in the same social crowd as he does, she's always there to give him su port and she must make it very obvious that she wants him!!! Who can blame him for feeling attracted and obligated.......and BJ just let it happen. What does BJ do for Mark (apart from the obvious)? Has that cheered you up, Karen? :-)

Good try, Bethan, but only Mark Darcy huffing and puffing at my door, shirt undone, dying to come in would brighten my day. On surface, it would appear that Rebecca is more suitable for him, but she is only interested in him because he is successful barrister and is in with all the right people. At some point, Mark is going to realize that Rebecca doesn't really love him and he certainly doesn't love her. But it better be soon!!

How's this for a scenario: CF has turned down the MD role and HF is mad as hell. "Oh yeah. I'll fix you. He's not such a nice guy, after all."

"Oh yeah. I'll fix you. He's not such a nice guy, after all." LOL!! Evelyn, I think you've got it!!

"Oh yeah. I'll fix you. He's not such a nice guy, after all." LOL!! Evelyn, I think you've got it!! ] That is the only possible reason for doing this. I don't think Rebecca is better or worse for Mark. He's just an idiot!! Karen, are you saying that you don't like MD anymore???? Hmmmmm......

I hope it's OK for a newbie to join in. I've been addicted to BJD since February and I'm very glad to find others. I have to admit that I'm a chronic Darcy Apologist, but after this week I'm not so sure I want Bridget to take him back. I've heard that HF is going to be in New York on June 8th. Are there any New Yorkers willing to go to the B&N at 4 Astor Place and find out why HF decided to ruin Mark Darcy? ;)

Valerie: The more the merrier. Addiction, yes it certainly is and I was so proud of myself that I had given up smoking last fall. I didn't realize that I had replaced it with something else. Do go to B&N and do a Jude and Shaz on her? We need to know why she has turned MD into an invertebrate. (Laura) Karen, are you saying that you don't like MD anymore???? Hmmmmm No way, Josefina! I'm not as fickle as you. ;-) There's an explanation out there. I know it. I feel it in my bones. Translation Time Now that I can see straight, it's that time of the week: 1) That whole Loaded magazine, Which Car, What Car thing???? 2) What are 'furnishing fabrics'? 30 Where's Ubud? In case, you're wondering where I am, Laura, I'm downstairs at *my Gary's*!!

"Ruining" Mark Darcy just when the movie is just about to roll is rather like throwing the baby out with the bathwater! We all need a happy ending......at least in the movies! But I reckon that true love can't be smooth, not when you've got a weekly column to write. I predict that Bridget will fight back (she still loves him) and he will redeem himself (he still loves her, sort of ), but not for several weeks.:-) Dunno where Ubud is. Furnishing fabrics=curtain/drapes material. Can't remember the references to Loaded etc, but Loaded is a laddish magazine. Is BJD on sale yet in the US?

Casting for Bridget: How about Minnie Driver with 30 Lbs (don't know that in "stones") Or Holly Aird (Sarah's flat-mate, Jo in FP) For Rebecca: Saffron Barrows (Nan, in CoF) Translation Time : ( a few weeks ago) "munching on a fairy cake" Worzel Gummidge "slag off Princess Diana" ( Valerie) Are there any New Yorkers willing to go to the B&N at 4 Astor Place and find out why HF decided to ruin Mark Darcy? There's one here in exile who would love to....... Go Valerie!!!

In case, you're wondering where I am, Laura, I'm downstairs at *my Gary's*!! ] That's okay, I'm down the Cape at my Aunts house. At least you have a Gary. Who doesn't do much anyway;p I think that Minnie Driver would be a good Bridget. But I'd be better. I'd have to put some weight on, but one stone shouldn't kill me;p

Minnie Driver would be good, but would she put the weight back on??? And, of course, Mark will redeem himself. He doesn't love Rebecca; he loves Bridget. It's just this godawful wait until he gets to be dreamy again!! Isn't "slag off" putting down? I'm pretty sure I looked it up, but can't remember!! :-(

(Laura) I think that Minnie Driver would be a good Bridget. But I'd be better. I'd have to put some weight on, but one stone shouldn't kill me. Aw, shuddup!! Besides, it can't be anyone beautiful like Kate Winslet, or Jennifer Ehle(who were previusly mentioned) orYOU!

Minnie Driver is too young for the part. Her b-day is 01/31/71 which makes her 27. Bridget it decidedly 30-something. I don't think the part should go to anyone under 32, and 34-36 would be preferable.

Thanks for making me feel welcome! I would love to attend the BJD book reading, unfortunately, I don't live in NYC. There is a web site that lists upcoming author tour dates, but I'm not counting on a book reading near me. :( I shouldn't have said that MD is completely ruined for me, but he is definitely flawed. I've been making excuses for him week after week. I even accepted his "I didn't know you cared" excuse, but after this week he knows he is hurting Bridget but he won't stop doing it. It is going to take several 'romantic mini-breaks' before I feel he's made it up to her. ;) Here is who I would like to see in the movie: Imogen Stubbs (Lucy Steele, Sense & Sensibility) as Bridget; Greg Wise (Willoughby, S&S) as Daniel Cleaver; Patsy Kensit (Angels & Insects) as Rebecca; and Jane Horrocks (Ab Fab) as Sharon. I really hope this will be a British production. I was a little disappointed when I found out John Cusack is doing Nick Hornby's "High Fidelity".

(Valerie) I hope it's OK for a newbie to join in. But, of course! Glad you found us ;-) (Bethan) We all need a happy ending......at least in the movies! But I reckon that true love can't be smooth, not when you've got a weekly column to write. This is a very good point, Bethan. I agree with Karen�there *is* an explanation of some kind, but I don�t believe it will be one which completely exonerates him. I think it very likely that the situation is exactly what it appears to be; a stupid mistake brought on by miscommunication between M & B. The most appealing part of the book (for me, anyway) was how real it seemed. How many of us have thought or said things similar to some of the entries in B�s diary? Life is messy and complete harmony is borin . In keeping with the spirit of the book, HF is creating some real life turmoil. If M & B were together and blissfully happy, who would bother to read the entries? I predict that Bridget will fight back (she still loves him) Well, it would be about time. Frankly, this whining, wounded, waiting-for-the-phone-call crap is getting on my nerves. Geez, woman! If he�s that important to you then open your mouth, find out what�s really going on (don�t just assume). Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Until she has a full conversation with Mark about it (not just one line of dialogue and a paragraph of mental suppositions) we�ll never know why he�s with Rebecca. and he will redeem himself (he still loves her, sort of ), I don�t know if he�ll be able to redeem himself. Bridget got no explanation for the break up. Then again, I wasn�t entirely sure he wanted to break up, she said the words, not him. Then her insecurities got going and he went along with it because he�s a fool. That didn�t make much sense, let me try that again ;-) Have you ever said something to a close friend and they completely misunderstood your intentions? You are so hurt that the friend doesn�t know you better--that they assume the worst of you. So y u just shut off, rather than correct the mistaken idea. Then you think to yourself, �Fine. If that�s what you think� and walk away. This is what that whole break up scene seemed to me. I can easily see a proud man walking away, rather than admit he�s hurt. So now things are all screwed up because he�s a jerk and she�s a wuss. However (and this is a BIG however), there is nothing that can justify involving himself with one of Bridget�s �friends�. It was cruel, disrespectful and showed a tremendous lack of judgement (especially if he still has feelings for Bridget). So, IMO there is no way of redeeming himself there, but perhaps she could forgive him (more clutching for realism). Someone hurts you, you forgive him (for whatever reasons) and, hopefully, move on. Of course, I�m assuming that both parties are adults ;-p (Laura) I think that Minnie Driver would be a good Bridget. But I'd be better. I'd have to put some weight on, but one stone shouldn't kill me;p Laura, on behalf of all the women in the world who could not be considered skinny, I would just like to say: Tthhpphhtthhpphhtthh!!! ;-p

Some translations that were requested: munching on a fairy-cake = eating a small cakey delicacy (v bourgeois) Worzel Gummidge = children's fictional scarecrow character (i.e. a mess) slag off = criticise Mary Bell & those nurses = Mary Bell, a convicted child-killer now receiving payment for contributing to psycho-book; two Brit nurses in Saudi jailed for life for killing Aussie flatmate, but now released in curious political deal Loaded/What Car etc = there are several magazines called "What HiFi", "What Camera", "Which Car" etc advising purchasers. Since the main feature of lads' magazine Loaded is scantily-clad semi-celebrities, Bridget thinks it could be called "What Cleavage". Hope nobody minds a contribution from another male

(Mark) Hope nobody minds a contribution from another male Of course we don't mind! It's not your fault MD is a fool ;-) Thanks for the translations, especially the "What Cleavage" LOL! So, Mark--what do you think of all this? It's not often we get the opportunity to hear a man's POV.

(Valerie) There is a web site that lists upcoming author tour dates Could you post it here? I'm dying to know if HF will be coming to my city. (Nan) However (and this is a BIG however), there is nothing that can justify involving himself with one of Bridget�s �friends�. OK, even if we start with the premise that Rebecca isn't really a "friend," it does happen in real life. I agree, it is despicable of him and shows he has little if any judgment. Then, the question becomes "should" Bridget take him back if and when he comes to his senses, finds out what boyfriend-pinching jellyfisher she is and that she does this only for sport? It's going to be interesting to see how HF brings B&M back together. Will we buy it? How did Rebecca do it? That boy was 100% primetime in love with her. (Mark) Hope nobody minds a contribution from another male Not at all!! Does the "G" stand for "good" Mark as opposed to the "bad" Mark under discussion? ;-)

A defence of MD (I think!) He's rich and successful but deeply scarred by his wife's unfaithfulness and his failed marriage. When he sees Bridget kissing Sinjun (and that is what he sees), he is deeply hurt and his pride is wounded. Bridget makes matters worse by mentioning "breaking up". He retreats, hurt, but does eventually phone her. BJ, encouraged by her idiotic friends, harangues him a la Linda Florentino (?) and refuses to listen to his (so far) innocent explanation. His pride deeply wounded ("I will not pester you again"), e seeks solace (no longer innocent) in Rebecca, who promptly ensnares him in her social network ( along with Magda and Jude). He is now in a mess but is still in love (deep down) with Bridget. BUT (the defence falters) he is basically insecure (his wife cheated on him, great dent to male ego) and he starts to enjoy the fact that two women want him (wife and mistress scenario), and ,like all males, he also wants to avoid confrontation (with Rebecca). But. MD, be warned, I agree with Karen, Rebecca does this for sport. Once she's got her trophy, he'll be dumped, and more insecure than ever. MD has little if any judgement. Perhaps not with women... a cheating wife, the elegant bossy Natasha, and the man-eating Rebecca. We need a male POV on this. How about it, Mark?

Yeah, Mark. We need your POV on the BJ &MD situation. And while you're at it.... (Mark) munching on a fairy-cake = eating a small cakey delicacy (v bourgeois) I'm a little dense...what is the "cakey delicacy" and Why is it Bourgeois? (This is turning into a FAQ on British pastries!!) Thank you for coming to our rescue on the translations.

HF's tour. I am HOPING to be at Astor Place B&N on June 8 to get the dirt but I am on a plane that day which is scheduled to arrive at Kennedy at 5:45. Baring late aircraft, and traffic jams, I should make it, at least in time to get my copy signed and ask some key questions. (it's just around the corner from my place) So, what should I ask? 1. Who is going to play MD in the movie? 2. What the hell is MD up to? 3. Where did the column appear before the Telegraph, and how can we get to it? Any others? (KarenR: this has a certain deja vu about it: remember AS Byatt?? ;-)) There is a post on Pemberley about a book reading time and date in DC (see ramble). I checked the book reading site, and no other times/locations are listed yet. However, will keep you posted.

(Kate) Re: HF Booksigning on 6/8 what should I ask? Who is to play Bridget.? When will the film start shooting? Be released? I envy you . Wish we could all accompany you. Will be eager to get your report......that night.......no rest for the weary!! Someone pl explain: "AS Byatt"

Someone pl explain: "AS Byatt" AS Byatt, author of "Possession". We discussed Possession (a great book, BTW) in the Library at Pemberley. We had a big debate about whether one of the characters was, or was not, a lesbian. So when she came to do a reading of her latest book in NYC, I went along to ask the question.... So you can see I'm experienced in the dirt digging role!

Male POV - Bethan is spot on: MD would have to be superMAN to see easily through blonde, long-legged, organiser-of-social-life, especially when feeling dumped by confused and confusing BJ. Are you girls taking the P&P analogy too far in your expectations of this Darcy? *Fairy-cake* - used for a variety of small, often home-made, sponge-cakes - I think they have overtones of middle-class people imagining they mimic upper-class people's taste for dainties - other Brits may disagree. Who should play BJ and MD? Isn't Colin Firth a cert? I am so impressed by US knowledge of suitable British actresses, but I would like to suggest Louise Lombard (known to UK for The House of Eliott, but poss unknown enough to the rest of the world to suit HF)

Louise Lombard Louise Lombard worried about being over 9 stone??? I don't think so!!!

(Mark G)Are you girls taking the P&P analogy too far in your expectations of this Darcy? YES!!! I don't think she is following the P&P thing anymore. It was just for the book!!!

(Karen) "Bookwire.com" is the web site that lists upcoming author tours. When you get to the site click on "Authors on the Highway". I wish I could say Bookwire had a complete listing, but I think it leaves out some of the smaller venues (and a few of the not-so-small venues). Questions for HF: I don't know if this has already been discussed, but I'm curious about whether that interview with Colin Firth actually took place? Also, does HF feel that Bridget has to remain a singleton? (Maybe this is why she split up BJ & MD?) Of course, you can't forget Bridget's standby questions: What is your favorite color? & What is your favorite pudding? ;-) Louise Lombard as Bridget? Great idea!

Media Alert: New York Times Book reviewed BJD and related article yesterday, but it is still on today. Good picture of HF. URL: nytimes.com/books/ Thanks Mark.for all the translations.

Bethan's Defense Ah hah, so I can't be labeled the *only* Darcy apologist here anymore!! But I must add something funny that I saw recently in the trailer to the new Harrison Ford movie, Six Days Seven Nights (?) which also goes to something Mark said about our, perhaps, too lofty expectations for Darcy. In the trailer, Harrison Ford asks Anne Heche 'what does a woman have to do to turn a guy on.' I don't remember if she answers or not, but his answer is 'Just show up. We're very basic, not complicated.' Louise Lombard Oh, I remember her from House of Eliot. Has she been in anything lately? Must check the IMDb. (Valerie) I wish I could say Bookwire had a complete listing, but I think it leaves out some of the smaller venues (and a few of the not-so-small venues). Thanks for the info, but have no fear, I'm not in one of the smaller venues. A.S. Byatt How could I forget, Kate!! But I know deep down that, if I had posed the question to Byatt, we might have had a different response! ;-) And we would have known the mystery man's identity!!

Are you girls taking the P&P analogy too far in your expectations of this Darcy? Yes and No. Plotwise, it is basically over. But in terms of characters, it would be inconceivable to me that their P&Pness wouldn't carry over into the columns. An author does not change a character. If Mark Darcy is supposed to be like Fitzwilliam Darcy (as played by Colin Firth) then it would continue.

I've just posted on a very recent radio interview with HF, in which she mentioned Mark Darcy and CF. See #59. Mark, I think that Louise Lombard is the best suggestion so far for BJ (although I agree she is rather slim...no obvious weight problem!). I'm surprised we haven't seen more of her since the House of Elliot.

Bookwire gives NYC as the only destination for HF. There must be other cities. Kate, could you ask her,pl. what other cities she will be appearing at? If she gets CF to play MD, she can get an unknown actress to play B.(Like FP) But two unknowns.....won't be too profitable.

Bookwire doesn't have all the appearances. I checked under Nick Hornby and noticed it was very incomplete. So let's not fret too much. Did you see, Helen will be on 20/20 and the Today show. Crank up the old VCRs!!

Some needs to call the publisher to get a run down on the promotional tour. They will give it out!! :-)

But I know deep down that, if I had posed the question to Byatt, we might have had a different response! LOL!! It's all in the way you pose the question! HF is appearing in DC - there's posts on Ramble at RoP about dates and locations. We shouldn't assume that she'll have ANY say over casting - most writers sign over everything when they sell their book to a production company, and control over casting is something she wouldn't have any say in at all. BJ is being published (hard back = $16 plus) by Viking. I've emailed them for info, but don't hold your breath.

The BJ Diary book will be on bookshelves next Tuesday at it is $22. Cover art is ok.

I found another book reading location. June 16th at The Booksmith, 1644 Haight St., San Francisco. I e-mailed Viking, but so far I've only received a sort of standard reply. The audiobook is being published by Random House so I wrote to them as well. Random House has been very responsive in the past so I'm hoping we'll hear something soon.

Okay, BJD is at the Bookstores!!! I was in Borders today just a little while ago and I saw it for 30% off it was $20.65.

(Mark G)Are you girls taking the P&P analogy too far in your expectations of this Darcy? Only as it relates to Colin. We are all so set on CF as MD that we already think of them as one and the same. The problem with this is that we cut MD more slack than we normally would, I think.

Here is the response I've received from Random House. I'm just going to "paste" the entire response. I apologize for the length. Hi. Thanks for writing about BRIDGET JONES'S DIARY. We have published this on audio - read by actress Tracie Bennett - and it's available at bookstores nation-wide. For more information regarding the audio, please visit: http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.cgi?0375404783 MEDIA 06/08/98 NBC/The Today Show 06/08/98 ABC-TV/20/20 04/27/98 Newsweek 06/01/98 Marie Claire 06/01/98 Jane 06/01/98 Harpers Bazaar 06/01/98 Detour 06/01/98 Cosmopolitan 06/01/98 Glamour 06/22/98 Women's Own 07/01/98 Vogue - 1st Serial 07/01/98 MS. Magazine 07/01/98 Mirabella TOUR 06/08/98 Barnes & Noble Astor Place New York, NY - Reading & Signing 06/09/98 Waterstones Boston - Reading & Signing 06/11/98 Olsson's Books and Records Washington DC - Reading & Signing 06/12/98 Book Stall Winnetka, IL - Reading & Signing 06/15/98 Tattered Cover Denver, CO - Reading & Signing 06/16/98 Book Passage Corte Madera,CA - Reading & Signing 06/18/98 Borders Los Angeles - Reading & Signing I hope this helps - and please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks Valerie for all the media info on BJD. They miss the Southwest again. It's like we don't read in this part of the country. All we do is listen to Garth Brooks!! Latest BJD:2.15pm: Was Gary. "Morning dear," he said to me with a leery smile. "Thanks for last night. Brought you a cappuccino. Can I come in?" Oh my God, what did I do? You're right, Laura, Gary is the new love-interest.Competition for MD??

Still no progress on the MD-Rebecca-Bridget triangle!!!!

Like I'm ever wrong:) hee hee. Ann called me last night and read it to me and I was grinning!!! Now, if she'd only describe him!!! Personally, I think Bridget would not just sleep with anyone, he'd have to be somewhat cute.

I would like to hear Mark's reaction to her sleeping with Gary. I hope that whatever plan BJ comes up with she develops a spine!!

I thought Bridget had a plan.....all she's doing is making a reconciliation with Mark impossible! Don't forget they have already split up once and he went off to work in Japan. Then he asked her to spend the weekend with him in Paris...and she was pleased because this meant he had forgiven her. For what? (this is the lost year in the MD/BJ relationship). Is that why he was so upset about Sinjun? Had it all happened before? Is it happening again? Someone ask HF about the missing year, please!!

(Evelyn)Thanks Valerie for all the media info on BJD. It was my pleasure. I wish HF was making an appearance in my area too. I noticed that the information that I received from Random House is not consistent with the dates posted on Bookwire. I think the book signing dates are OK, but I'm not sure about the television interviews. I'm sorry I didn't check the info before passing it on. :(

Thanks, Valerie, for all your effort. We shall figure out the TV appearances. Anyway, great idea for a question, Bethan. The infamous "missing year" and why they broke up. OK, HF's in my neck of the woods 6/12 so if the question hasn't been asked by then, I'll do it. Right now, I'm working on my Nick Hornby questions for tomorrow! ;-) My reaction to this week: wake me up next Saturday morning. Boooring! What would you expect from me: No Mark!! :-(

Karen, but Jude cancels the wedding. Shazzer is shagging Simon, again. Tom's chasing twins that are having an affair with each other (What's up with that?) And Bridget, the tramp she is, shags Gary the builder. Not boring in the least!!! And Vile Richard show up with fake Irish sounding 22 yo babe and Shazzer decks him!!! Would call this one of the better ones!!!!

Karen, you could ask NH if he has any plans to work with CF again! I think he's working on a film script at the moment. The movie rights to "About a boy" were sold to Robert de Niro's company.

I'm now one degree of separation from CF!!! "For Ann, Best Wishes, Nick Hornby" That's what he signed in my copy of "About a Boy" tonight. As for the films: High Fidelity is being done by the people who did "Grosse Point Blank", and will have John Cusak in it. About a Boy is being adapted by the guy who did "What's Eating Gilbert Grape" and is being done by deNiro's company. Hornby is listed as one of the Exec Producers, but he isn't sure what that means. He figures that if any conflict arises between himself and the others, he'll be overruled. BTW, he's a cutie! (And we made eye contact several times. Hee hee hee.)

Why can't Nick Hornby be loved for himself. WHO CARES ABOUT THE COLIN FACTOR??? Don't you think he wants to move on with his career? I don't think CF is that important of a person to him. NH is very talented on his own!!!! Sorry, I'm done ranting now!!! I secretly trying for the Shazzer role in Bridget;)

(Bethan) you could ask NH if he has any plans to work with CF again! I heard somewhere that Colin would've liked to do Will (Boy) but that since it's going to be Americanized, they probably wouldn't offer it to him. Which of course is total and absolute tripe!! All we've seen over here is Britisha nd Australian actors wonderfully playing Americans. Emma as the first lady, Branagh over and over again, Guy Pearce and Russell Crowe in L.A. Confidential. Not to mention, CF in that farm flick!! Another thing Hornby mentioned elsewhere is that one of the original scripts he's working on now for his production co. with Evans and Posey is about a 21 year old and that Colin *might* be a little old to be in that one. Besides, I think I would be too embarassed to ask NH about CF!! I will try to pose insightful, thought-provoking questions. hee hee!! (Laura) Would call this one of the better ones!!!! Well, I guess that's why there are sooo many books on the shelves at the bookstore. Although I do want to know how many people participated in that tent. Was this a group effort? When Bridget woke up, Shaz was there fully clothed as was Simon. So were Gary and Bridge going at it with the others in attendance? Hmmmm Not only is she a tramp, she is a tramp without any sense of propriety. Ha!!

Gaaagh!!! Helen Fielding is scheduled to be online with Barnes & Noble on Wednesday, June 10 at 9:00 EST.

ooops, that would be EDT.

Hornby in Chicago The side door opened slowly as the restless crowd's low murmurrings and twentysomething laughter were finally quieted. He saw the dark-haired, blue-eyed beauty in the first row and their eyes met. She smiled and he smiled back. Up onto the raised platform he climbed, only to be introduced by a baggy-shorts-clad store clerk with large horn-rimmed glasses. Looking embarassed by the unvarnished praise, he spoke softly about his new book and then began to read the first of three excerpts. A reading made ery difficult by his attempts to sneak glances at the mysterious woman in the first row with the eyes that said everything but when. He tried to clear his mind, his throat but all in vain as his thoughts would not be tamed.... Ooops, maybe this belongs on Topic 34.

HEE HEE HEE HEE. Karen, You saw me there. I was trying to be discreet!!! But alas, my beauty could not be detained from him:) hee hee hee. Very funny indeed!!! Keep going, I wonder if Hornby and I ever connected;) hee hee.

In your dreams you were here! You want more!! Come on he's a respected writer. That would be so disrespectful!!

Anyway, isn't your hair blonde now, v. blonde???

No, not v. blonde, sorta ash blonde:) But you are NOT a respected writer;-p hee hee. hee hee. Good Job, Karen!!!

Nick was here on Tuesday night. I got there well ahead of time and most of the seats were taken, except one in the front row. I set my stuff down and went to buy High Fidelity and then settled in for the wait. He came out of a little door next to where I was sitting and I was probably the first person he saw. Our eyes met and I smiled in recognition and he smiled back. (That part really happened.) He went up on the raised area, which is the "kiddie korner" of the store (I'm smiling inwardly a how appropos this is) and was introduced by a store guy and then he read three selections from AAB. Audience reaction was very good. He was wearing this "comfy-type" outfit. Something one would wear on a plane to be comfy. No jeans. No leather jacket. Even though the weather had taken a dive and has been cool for several days now. He is short to medium height, very nondescript (i.e., you wouldn't notice him on the streets) and unassuming looking. Of course, bald with stick out ears. When he finished his read and after the thunderous applause, he took questions from the audience. Took a while for someone to break the ice, but then there were a lot. A sampling of those I remembered. (Sorry, I should've taken notes.) Are changes made in his books for the American audience? Yes, some but not significant. He's very sensitive to pop cultural differences and wants to get them right. Does he listen to music when he writes? Not the stuff he listens to at home. At his writing flat, he might listen to contemporary classical, whatever that is. Will he always be writing novels? Does he want to get into film? Already has. He did the adaptation for FP, which will be shown here in ltd release later this year or next year, and is now writing an original screenplay. How long did he teach and was there a prototype for Marcus (AAB)? He didn't teach for very long and yes there was a Marcus. He then went on to describe this loner of a kid who wasn't nerdy like Marcus, but stood out for other reasons, which he went into in detail. How do his various audiences get along (i.e., the football types vs. the literary types)? Nick said there is a third audience: the music types. He said at first that the football types would interrupt and take over the Q&A sessions at his promotional tours with football questions, but now they all seem to get along just fine. Then it was signing time. Since I was in the front row, I *could* have been up there rather quickly, but instead I went to the back of the line. It was a long line. People had jillions of copies of his books. I now am familiar with all editions from both sides of the Atlantic. But I am pretty sure I was the only one with a FP Screenplay!! OK, I'm finally at the front of the line and the view of Nick is unobstructed. He looks at me approach and he smiles broadly. I can read on his face: "So there she is, the one from the front row!!" (Well, maybe not, but that's how I like to interpret it!! Everyone has to have their fantasies.) I plopped down my three books; don't know why I didn't bring regular FP to complete the set. As he looks at it, I said, "Probably don't see too many of these around?" To which he replies: "No (with a twinkl ). Are you a Colin Firth fan?" I quickly say yes and turn the subject back to him and how much I enjoy his work. How I loved the movie and how much it made me want to read the book as well as High Fidelity in order to better understand the characters for my film discussion group. How I thought the two had to be taken together. He looked pleased, especially when I said he did a "Brilliant job." Now, it's all downhill as I turn into a babbling moron. I asked him if he wouldn't mind answering some truly trivial and boorish questions. No problem. He was very amused, listened politely to my questions, and answered them when I would give him half a chance to speak. At this point, he must have thought me a raving idiot with a pea brain, unable to ask any halfway intelligent questions. He would have been right. So ends the nightmare. I need counseling before Helen Fielding shows up. I'm likely to throttle the poor woman because of what she is doing to a fictional character!! :-) OOhhhh tomorrow.......what horrors shall be in store?

Actually, Karen hop on your Gary's computer tonight around 8pm your time and you'll find out!!!

I loved your account, Karen! Great stuff! By the time you meet Helen Fielding you'll be a seasoned babbler! But you chickened out on Colin-questions! (I would have, too :-) ) BTW how come NH is popular in the US.....he seems to have quite a following. I didn't think that FP had taken off in the US, although I can imagine that High Fidelity would be successful. I'm really looking forward to hearing about your meeting with HF. Maybe Mark will have redeemed himself by then (he really does love her, you know!) My prediction for tommorow's episode...........BJ finds herself embroiled with Gary against her better judgement. They go out somewhere together and are seen by Mark who looks at her in horror and disappointment! She realises she still loves him, but will he still love her now?!!!!

NO COLIN QUESTIONS TO NICK HORNBY!!!!

Thanks Karen for the Nick Hornby report. Never heard of the guy till FP. I do think he should stick to novels and skip the screenplays. IMHO the weak link in FP was the screenplay.

Evelyn, The novel FP was autobiographical, NH did a good job turning it into a fictional movie!! honestly.

(Laura) Evelyn, The novel FP was autobiographical, NH did a good job turning it into a fictional movie!! honestly. Okay, fearless leader.....if you say so.

*Bridget Jones is away AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!! What happened with Gary!!! Karen, you're Hornby reading went much like mine: I got there about a half hour before, but most of the seats were taken--except for the front row, where I sat. When he came in, he walked right past me, our eyes met, as they did several times while some bloke from the store introduced him (he has a cute smile, which he seemed to flash my way once or twice). Even the questions he was asked were similar: Do you listen to music when you work (contemporary classical means Philip Glass, who he mentioned at the St Paul reading)? Did you get the prototype for Marcus from your teaching? What's up with the movies of your books? Probably half or more of the questions were about film adaptations, which must be discouraging for a writer--as if you haven't succeeded until you have movies made of your work, then the movies take precidence over your writings.

Okay, Nick Hornby is ADORABLE. He was on time. My friend Lynn came and I will kill her later for the big mouth that she has!! Anyway, I asked the first question! (of course) and it was Rob and will are Self-centered, manipulative and Childish. Is Nick Hornby? He got a big laugh out of that one and adored me for it!!! I gave him a New England Revolution T shirt and he was sooooo happy. He is great!!!! He told me that Jonathan Firth lives downstairs from his working studio. See When I gave him the T shirt, Big mouth Lynn said I wanted it signed by COLIN FIRTH!!! I said Absolutely not. Then she offered that I was a big fan of Jonathan Firth and he said that he lived downstairs!!! I handed him a yellow piece of paper and he was very excited by it. I can only h pe girls!!! Second question was. You have been quoted as saying that you would like write screenplays for small British films, yet your novels have been bought by American studios. Does the Americanization of your films bother you as it seems to go against your grain? Because of my first question, his next book will be about a woman who is self-centered, manipulative, and childish. He was looking dead at me when he said that. All in all, I made an impression on him. I told him I was a single mum and he was quite shocked. I don't look like a single mum? Or whatever a single mum looks like!

Thanks Laura ,m'dear for your prompt report. You made my weekend! (Laura)He got a big laugh out of that one and adored me for it!!! And so do we!!! And three cheers for" Big Mouth Lynn". Did he sign your books?

Laura. Brilliant. It is so intersting that JF lives in the flat below. So that probably means that the hype about CF and NH being such good friends while making FP was really true. Otherwise it would be too much of a coincidence for Jon F to have found a flat there of all places. BTW he was living in Colin's flat while he was flat hunting. QED. (Evelyn)IMHO the weak link in FP was the screenplay. I am afraid I agree with you. That and the TV style cinematography. I watched it again the other day. The more I watch it, however, the more I adore Colin's portrayal of Paul.

(Bethan) But you chickened out on Colin-questions! Told you I would. :-) But have absolutely no fear, it is far easier asking a woman about Colin than another man. Helen would *understand.* ;-) BTW how come NH is popular in the US.....he seems to have quite a following. I didn't think that FP had taken off in the US, although I can imagine that High Fidelity would be successful. You're right, FP was not all that popular in the U.S. If and when they ever show the movie, maybe people will be interested enough to read the book, which I adored. High Fidelity has a more universal appeal because music transcends national boundaries for the most part. That being the case, I just gave my autographed HF to my brother-in-law to read. He is a committed audiophile. Maybe Mark will have redeemed himself by then Alas it was too much to hope for. You better believe I'll have the firstquestion out to the gate for Helen!!! (Ann) Probably half or more of the questions were about film adaptations, which must be discouraging for a writer--as if you haven't succeeded until you have movies made of your work, then the movies take precidence over your writings. That's where yours was different. At my signing, there weren't many questions about the film adaptations. He actually volunteered this info, and from the way he sounded he appears more interested himself in film/movies. He is part of the Wildgaze production company with David Evans, the director, and Amanda Posey. I do not get the impression that his main goal in life is to get the Booker!!

He said that HIGH FIDELITY will take place in Chicago or Boston. I was in the ladies room when that question was asked. Big mouth Lynn told me. I am soooo mad at her. When I handed him the t shirt he really was excited and asked if the REVOLUTION were any qood. I told him because of damn Alexi Lalas, which brought a big grin to his face. (He HATES Alexi Lalas!!) They weren't doing to well. ALAS, I'm going tonight to a book signing that is INVITATIONAL only. Karen ask how I managed THAT one:) Hee He !! Will tell you how all went again!!! BTW, did I tell you the Nick Hornby is ADORABLE!!!!!

What's up with the tagging:(((( Anyway, Helen Fielding will be in Boston on 9 June, AND I will DEFINITELY ask why MD is a jerk, creep, FUCKWIT!!! And will post ASAP!!!

...and you've been keeping that information to yourself, i.e., about the invitational appearance....see if you get the book back!! BTW, the fuckwit is Bridget. She's the commitmentphobic. Mark was always the one who tried to find out from her how she felt.

!!! Bridget Jones is away !!! If this is because a certain HF is doing a certain promotional tour in the USA, then I suggest the whole thing be called off. Ha! Meanwhile, at least we have The Tracking of Nick Hornby around the Nation to divert us. Does the poor man know he's being targeted?

My invitational went Wonderfully splendid. It was at this Bookstore in Brookline. Nick Hornby looked quite dashing in Black pants and maroon button-down silk shirt! Because a lot of trade people were there the section he read from had more colorful language. Okay, get there at 7.00pm, my date was my 20 y.o. brother who I have turned into a Nick Hornby fan. He did the reading. Noticed me and smiled. When Tim, my brother, went up to have his book signed, Nick said "Hello, Laura." and I smiled sheepishly. Didn't want him to think I was stalking him:) Anyway, I told him that Tim was my kid brother. Tim wanted to ask him questions not related to the book because he thought he's sick of answering. The question my brother asked? "What cereal do you eat?" I aughed. Nick looked right at me and said "Laura what is it in your family with these questions?" He answered. In England, a raisin weetabix? in the States he's been eating a lot of granola. After the book signings, he mixed and mingled and came over to talk to me. We chatted for about 8-10 minutes. Which is a long time, actually. He asked me what I would do with the information about JF living downstairs and I told him that my ticket was already bought. "Your serious?" he said incredulously. I said yeah. Then explained how I was going to Ireland in three weeks:) He told me he loved Ireland and I offered the same. I told him now I have incentive for going to London and checking out Hi hbury;) said it very cheekily. I apologized for the self-centered, manipulative, childish question. Told him the reason why I asked was because that seems to be the type of men, I'm attracted too. My brother said that sounded like I was asking him out on a date! I mentioned my daughter and being a single parent. He asked how old she was and I told him 7. "How old are you anyway?" I stared at him. Then told him 30. He said he wouldn't have believed it. I do look young and not old enough to have a 7 y.o. who will be 8 in October. His son is 5. And that is the long and short of it. Did I do well?

Very well, indeed. Don't know if I could have chatted for 10 minutes and not even mentioned "FP...and oh, incidentally...about Colin Firth....". I admire your restraint. Saw HF on the Today Show this AM. She is v. attractive. Katie Couric interviewed her and unfortuately had not read the book....yet; "I plan to read it this summer"she said. So the interview was v. general and she did not get into the Bridget and MD relationship. Had she read the book she would have. On the question about the film, HF commented that they are looking for an actress.But nothing definite. "The other day at the gym I saw this young woman on a stationary bicycle just reading a magazine. I said that's her!!

BTW how come NH is popular in the US.....he seems to have quite a following. I didn't think that FP had taken off in the US, although I can imagine that High Fidelity would be successful. } HIGH FIDELITY which is a cult classic here in the States garnered the most questions. Also, someone asked him about his popularity here in the States and he thought it quite odd in a country of 200mm people where 100mm people are writers! He said he was chatting with Helen Fielding recently and they were perplexed by it all. One thing else about Nick Hornby he is very unassuming and gentle. I adored him!!! Ok??? hee hee

Very well, indeed. Don't know if I could have chatted for 10 minutes and not even mentioned "FP...and oh, incidentally...about Colin Firth....". I admire your restraint. Well, I was known as the Jonathan Firth fan. So telling NH that CF is my wallpaper on my computer at work, wouldn't have gone over too well!!!! hee hee. I wanted NH to know that I liked him for him and not CF. Although, many other CF fans there made it known that they were there for the CF connection only. Which I think is in poor taste!

http://reports.guardian.co.uk/papers/19980606-39.html Mark Darcy's Diary

Ok, I did the Helen Fielding thing tonight. She read a longish excerpt from May, in which MD does not appear once. She has the most gorgeous RP accent which is BJ to a tee. I asked her about casting for the movie. She said she wanted an unknown for BJ and told the stationery bike story.... but didn't mention MD!!! When I got my book signed "v.g. wishes" ;-) I said I REALLY wanted to know about CF... she said "I hope so, I really hope so..."... and it all sounds very far off. She said the book was a total rip off of P&P, because it's had centuries of market research. When she first started writing the column it was anonymous... she used it to support her "serious" writing. The column was the basis of the book, but she rewrote it quite a lot so it had a beginning middle and end. There is a sequel in the works, but don't hold your breath. And some other things too, but I can't remember right now.....

Thanks Karen for your report. I waited- up for it!! A pity she could not be more specific on CF playing MD. But at least it was not a definitive "no". HF has had a long day!!She was interviewed this am in New York. Tonight in Chicago!!! I read on the other board that she will be interviewed on CBS This Morning on Wednesday the 10th. Ann previously said that she would also be on 20/20. Does anyone know when?Must be this Friday. Wow, what a week.

Correction: I just realized Kate is in New York City . So HF is still in NYC, It's still a whirlwind-week.

I love the Mark Darcy Diary in the Guardian....well spotted Laura! On the movie, it would have been reassuring to get some more positive information. HF told that story about casting an unknown and seeing someone in a gym a couple of months ago, but there have been subsequent reports of looking at high profile actresses like KW, MD, GP. They won't use an unknown, surely. Probably HF isn't in a position to release any info, until Working Title are up and running. This summer has been mentioned a couple of times in the press as the starting date. There are a couple of othe "single girl" type movies also being filmed, so Working Title can't afford to delay too long. Even BJ can become old news. As to MD, I do hope that HF isn't dangling CF's name as a carrot, like the story of the unknown. (I'm being cynical here!). But she is reported to have told friends that he has agreed. But I have nticed that with CF projects there tends to be no news until filming has virtually started.

Helen Fielding has been quoted as saying NO Gwynneth Paltrow!!! Karen read me the Entertainment Weekly article last night. HF is in Boston today!!!! Kate, how is it that your memory falters so quickly??? And why should we not hold our breath about the sequel??? Did you ask as to why she is making Mark Darcy into such a FUCKWIT!!!! These are hard hitting questions, that I guess I'LL have to ask! Hell, if I can ask Nick Hornby if he is self centered, manipulative and childish, this should be a piece of cake!! hee hee. You want to see Bridget!!! I'll give her Bridget!

Laura, ask her if they are starting shooting the movie this summer as reported,and if not, when?. And when there will be definite news of the casting. I'm fed up with all this will he/won't he stuff! This surely can't be confidential!

Bethan: Entertainment Weekly this week (6/12 issue) has a two page article about both Bridget and AAB. In it, Helen states, "absolutely, positively NOT GP for Bridget," with a shudder!! Hoorah!! Then, there is a little blurb where she asks "how old is Calista Flockhart?" who plays Ally McBeal. Nick Hornby stated that he though Jerry Seinfeld would be a good Will Freeman for AAB, of course he has no real say on that as it is being made by De Niro's film company. Helen Fielding is also supposed to be on Charlie Rose on 6/10. What happened to 20/20?? Did she get bumped by one of those other *hard-hitting* stories? Yuck!!

It should definitely be a British woman who plays Bridget. No Americans!! Pretty bad coming from an American!

Laura, the Barnes and Noble was packed. I asked two of about the ten questions they allowed (one about casting the movie, to which she replied ONLY about BJ, and not about MD, one about basing the book on P&P). I was fourth in line to get my book signed, and there were about 200 people after me, so I squeezed in my question about CF being cast .... but it was impossible to ask more without being a total f***wit and holding up the line. One person (our Marisa in fact!!!) asked about why there was no column in etcera this week - HF seemed very surprised to discover we could get it at all. And since most of the audience were completely new to BJ, it hardly seemed fair to say "why has MD turned into such a bastard??" Lame excuses I know. But I had also literally just got off a plane, and I was a little out of it.

Okay, Helen Fielding was here today. I mean she checked out this Board!!! she mentioned today how she was surfing the net typed in BJD and it brought her here. I had printed out the URL for her earlier and when I handed it to her, I told her I created the topic!! She was amazed and said it was great. She said we've come up with better scenarios then she has!!! Okay, I told her to describe Gary and she will (He is gorgeous!!) Bridget did NOT sleep with Gary!!! I took pictures and will post a more detailed version tomorrow. Want to go home. brought up CF and JF and told her that if CF turns the part down to go with JF and she thought the same thing!!!! well, enjoy she will probably post something in the future here!!!

WELL DONE, LAURA AND KATE.!!! You do us proud.!!Can't wait for more postings .Thanks a bunch!!

(Laura) I mean she checked out this Board!!! Oh, the poor woman! :-O Can you imagine the shock? ;-p I told her to describe Gary and she will (He is gorgeous!!) What? No refrigerator repairman crack? ;-p . brought up CF and JF and told her that if CF turns the part down to go with JF and she thought the same thing!!!! Oh, dear! Laura, this sudden preference for JF is really starting to worry me... To be perfectly honest, we all searched the UK bookstores for BJD months ago simply because of the Colin connection. The fact that the book was such a hoot was just icing on the cake. I howled through the whole thing. I'd like to think that Colin has a sense of humor about the Darcy thing and would be willing to do the film. IMO (and no offense to JF), if it ain't Colin, it ain't Darcy (either one).

Okay, I tried to post something yesterday BUT because I used the word Fuckwit it censored me:( I was at kinkos last night. Helen Fielding read from the May chapter. She says bloody bastard awesomely!!! she is absolutely GORGEOUS!!! Made me feel like sh-t! Anyway, she said these booksigning were always nervewracking because you never know if ppl will show up! She read for about 20 minutes:( Took questions, I asked two. She had not seen the Mark Darcy's Diary and I was kicking myself for not printing it and bringing it to her! Oh yeah, big mouth Lynn came with me:) She was on her best behavior!!! Helen F. is obsessed with CF. She went to Arsenal game with NH, CF, JF. She said the similarity in the two brothers is amazing, she kept calling them both Mr Darcy! I told her MD was a fuckwit and she had some 'splaining to do. I think she hasn't put her heart and soul into it recently??? She was supposed to turn in the sequel three weeks ago, she said the publisher should expect it in six months:) very Bridgetesque;p I was talking to Lynn when I asked her to describe Gary because I wanted to know what this guy that Bridget slept with looked like. "SHE DID NOT!" Helen F. says, smiling. "She didn't? What happened in that tent?" She smiled sneakily. Damn! Well No Bridget this Sat. But next week when on Cape, (Nan, are you going?) Ann will bring her computer so we can log into BJD. It comes out aroun 9pm edt. I think that is all for know.

(Laura) Helen F. is obsessed with CF. She went to Arsenal game with NH, CF, JF. She said the similarity in the two brothers is amazing, she kept calling them both Mr Darcy! What a lucky girl!!!! Laura you were great! Thanks for the info. If her book tour turns out to be a big success, maybe, she will convince Colin to do the movie. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Laura) Helen F. is obsessed with CF. She went to Arsenal game with NH, CF, JF. She said the similarity in the two brothers is amazing, she kept calling them both Mr Darcy! (Moon) What a lucky girl!!!! Mmmm!! I second that!

Well I could be on my way to Highbury!!! Now that I know that Jonathan lives downstairs from NH's writing flat and he does live within spitting distance of the stadium. BTW, Brazil is leading Scotland. Scored in the fourth bloody minute!!!!!

OK, I'm making up my list of questions for Friday. Somehow I can't imagine that there will be over 200 people at the store she will be at. I mean it is not in the downtown area or a Notting Hillish area, but in a suburb packed with beyond Smug Marrieds. That area is definitely NOT her audience. I'm wondering what clueless person booked her into that store. However, I shall be there with my questions and my scenarios for her future colums!! ;-)

HF was interviewed on CBS This Morning by Jayne Robileaux (sp )who unfortunately had not read the book. They had a bunch of British props on the desk. Things that Bridget refers to : Milk Trays, British cigarettes, lottery tickets (alas no Fairy Cakes) . She denied being like B. but admitted to be a "forty-something" (doesn't look it). Repeated some of the same comments. Did she mention MD or CF...NO.!! She is scheduled for Charlie Rose tonight. Good for you Laura, for bringing up CF.(Nan, Laura's fascination with JF is only a passing fancy. And there is this about it...he is single. And CF is taken!! What's a girl to do!!)

Only an hour until Fielding is in the Barnes and Noble chat room (take the "Book Talk" link in the banner at the top of the page). I've been asked to keep a transcript of that page, like I did with NH, and I'll try.

(Laura) But next week when on Cape, (Nan, are you going?) Sure am :-) (Evelyn) Laura's fascination with JF is only a passing fancy. And there is this about it...he is single. And CF is taken!! What's a girl to do!! There is no such thing as "taken" when I'm having a fantasy. Unless, of course, he's "taken" by me ;-p

Okay. Tonight on the Helen Fielding Chat Room Baarnes & Noble Book Talk , I asked The Question I knew you all wanted to know: Here it is: Evelyn from Oklahoma : Wish you were coming to the SW. We never get to meet an author...it's like we sit around listening to Garth Brooks all the time! Loved your book . But many of us are eager to know about the film....Mark Darcy ...any luck that Colin Firth will take it.? After all, he IS Darcy .HF: Which I was coming too, do they have cowboys there? Saw Colin Firth at a party and he agreed to keep the next three years free for the film. Stop. I think. Stop.

Congratulations ladies! Ann, Karen, Kate, Laura did you get on too? You all asked probing questions and managed to get Colin into the conversation. Mission accomplished! One question, who is this Mr. Dawcey? Guess the typist never heard a Brit speak before. Well done.

Oops, I knew it was you too Evelyn. Good question. What did she mean though?

Congratulations ladies! Ann, Karen, Kate, Laura did you get on too? You all asked probing questions and managed to get Colin into the conversation. Mission accomplished! One question, who is this Mr. Dawcey? Guess the typist never heard a Brit speak before. Well done.

Oh shit.

I have the transcript up and running! The Transcript From Helen Fielding's B&N Chat

This is the answer I didn't understand: I interviewed Colin Firth in Rome. I was pretending to be Bridget and he was pretending to be Mr. Darcy. We endeed up in front of the statue of Moses, who we both agreed he was clealry gay, murmuring Mr. Darcy, Mr. Darcy. It was weird but strangely delicious.

Heide, I think Re: Colin Firth taking the MD role...she didn't want to appear too definite. Of course, I think his answer was facetitous too. .Still, it was encouraging and positive...no? Happy?, Bethan?

Sorry for the misspelling: facetious

Thank you all for all the wonderful snippets from Helen Fielding and Nick Hornby. I have really enjoyed hearing what they had to say. It is so good to hear things like- "I met CF at a party" or "I went to arsenal with CF". It gives a small (very small)insight into his real life. Great.

Rof P Ramble Board has a posting by CK "HF in DC" posted on 6/11 in which she comments on the reading and booksigning in Washington DC last evening. Worth reading. I was particularly interested in the comment that HF is still early in the process of writing the BJD screenplay!!! I thought it was ready to go into production this summer!! So, that gives us hope..".....where we dared not hope before...."

I interviewed Colin Firth in Rome. I was pretending to be Bridget and he was pretending to be Mr. Darcy. We endeed up in front of the statue of Moses, who we both agreed he was clealry gay, murmuring Mr. Darcy, Mr. Darcy. It was weird but strangely delicious. Evelyn, I think CF must have taken Helen on a tour of Rome's famous sights. Didn't she mention the Colisseum and Moses in the BJ/CF interview? (Glad to hear that was real!) Moses must be Michelangelo's statue of Moses in the Church of St Peter in Vinculis, Rome. There's a photo of the statue in our home encyclopaedia, and, I do agree, from his posture and expression Moses does look exceedingly gay!!.......although I must say I think it was highly irreverent of CF and HF to think along these lines! Tut! : ) Thanks for all the news of HF/BJ and CF/MD. I think I'd be reasonably confident now that he will do it, but I was rather disappointed to read that the BJ script was still in the early stages. There's no way they can be shooting this summer...more like next. :-( :-( Didn't NH write about FP that he had to do 6 drafts of the screenplay? It must take quite some time) The sequel sounds interesting .....MD the Avenging Angel (again).

I think we were pushing it along further than they were. Helen Fielding comes across as a bit lazy when it comes to deadlines. So.... Next summer sounds more reasonable. The question I asked her was "Everyone knows that BJD is in preproduction.... I am interuppted.."yeah, pre-preproduction!" lots of laughs and some people saying I didn't know that!!! So, if not next year the year after that!! she did ask CF to keep his calendar for three years!!!

By which time he will no longer be a thirtysomething - perhaps MD doesn't have to be?

IMO I think the real positive outcome of these two book tours (NH &HF) is that they now realize (and hopefully tell CF) that there is an audience throughtout the US awaiting his next project. And you can be sure HF will tell him that wherever she went people asked for CF to play MD!! BTW is Winter going to check out the booksigning in LA? Or JANA?

By which time he will no longer be a thirtysomething - perhaps MD doesn't have to be? Well, CF doesn't look his age, so a just forty will be okay! But not three years ple-e-ase! The newspaper reports certainly created the impression that the movie was about to roll......,sigh! So, what is he doing NEXT then, if it's not MD. Any predictions? :-)

Does this work? Moses in Rome http://familiar.sph.umich.edu/cjackson/michelan/p-michel22.htm

I see in www.bookwire.com that Helen Fielding will be on line on Tuesday June 16 at 8pm: Yahoo National On-Line at the Time Auditorium. Would someone please tell me where the H--- Time Auditorium is? I can't find my way. If I can get there Bethan, I'll ask what the expected timeline is for this film. If she was smart she would get crackin' on that screenplay and strike while the book is Hot.

Moses' pose is quite compromising alright. But then Michelangelo was gay. Doesn't mean poor Moses (who isn't around to defend himself) is gay.!!

As they say, inside every grey cloud is a silver lining. Last night, Helen Fielding was in town and the turn out was positively pathetic. First off, she appeared at a bookstore in the suburbs and, second, there was a possibility that the Bulls would wipe out the Jazz last night and everyone was fixed to their TV screens. I got there early (fighting Friday night city traffic) and couldn't quite figure out where they would hold the reading. A clerk pointed to a small settee and 4 chairs. I gasped and said "There!!?? You must be joking!" The person said, "Well, it's up to the author and how she wants it set up. We can bring in a few more chairs." I replied that she had huge turnouts in the other cities she had been in. The clerk said, "Well, there is the Bulls game, you know." Yes, dear, I know but that is not until ater. When Helen arrived, there were about 6 people. As she read, several more showed up and there may have been about 20 at the most. I'm pretty sure I was the only one there who knew about the column and was asked by several of the people there for the url. Helen read several selections, the pregnancy, getting dressed and no pantyhose and dieting, as well as a few of the New Year's resolutions at the beginning. Helen volunteered most information as few had even read her book yet. She mentioned our site's discussion and I chimed in with the fact that I am part of it and most often known as the "Darcy Apologist." In response to a question about British newspaper columns, she said that others had done takeoffs of Bridget and there was one recently by Mark Da cy that she hadn't read. I then gave her the copy and said I thought she would probably like the end part. She was quite surprised I had it for her. Anyway, the intimacy of the group allowed me to talk to her quite a bit. But reverting to my true nature (a babbling idiot), I did forget to ask the most important questions (i.e., what did Mark mean when he said 'it's not what you think, what was he trying to say on the phone when he left Bridget the message, and what even got him thinking that it was OK to go out with that piece of rubbish!!). We did discuss the Mark-Bridget relationship and she did assure me that things would be resolved, but that ev n when two people love each other things don't always go smoothly. Life intrudes. She said that Rebecca is bossy and just took over Mark's life. He being such a busy barrister type allowed it to happen. I was arguing that Mark knew what Rebecca was (Bridget told him), but Helen said why should he believe it. Of course I maintained that Bridget was an idiot and that she should never have gone to Rebecca's parent's county home. Helen talked about the Colin interview and reiterated that it did indeed happen. She said that Colin really got into it. She explained to the group about the impact of P&P in Britain and how everyone had the obsession with the wet shirt and how Bridget kept working it into the interview. I told her I liked the questions about having a younger, foreign girlfriend and others. She talked about casting the movie and mentioned she saw someone like Omar Sharif playing Julio. (Sorry, I know this is all disjointed.) She wrote the greatest stuff in my book and on one of the columns. In the book, she wrote "I'll be watching you on the net. vg best wishes from ...." Then I gave her a copy of the column with Mark strutting barrister mode clad only in a towel and I told her that was an image that is permanent etched in my brain. She said, "Do you want more sexy scenes?" I smiled and said but of course. SO when she signed that column, she wrote something to the effect (I don't have it in front of me--sorry): "Mmmmmmmm More sexy Mark scenes for you....." It was great!! I do agree that the screenplay and the sequel are a ways off. SHe mentioned how the new book would pick up where the other left off and she did talk about the Bangkok drug smuggling and Mark rescue. Someone asked her if after all the popularity of Bridget would she be able to write a serious novel or has she been stereotyped now. Her answer: She has no complaints. This is just fine. Hmmmmmm OK, got to go. Jana or Jennifer: It's up to you or someone in Denver (if you're out there)

*sigh*... that was great Karen, you were lucky that so few people turned up! But I am glad for her sake that so many people came to her NYC reading which was the first one, even though it made it impossible to talk to her at all - it must have given her a real boost. And then small discussions like yours would make her know that she has some devoted fans!! One thing I forgot to mention in my report was that a fair proportion (maybe one quarter) of the people at the reading had the british paperback edition - and had obviously read it. So maybe she had more import/traveller penetration in this market.

(Kate) But I am glad for her sake that so many people came to her NYC reading which was the first one She definitely understood the significance of what was going on relative to the Bulls and even mentioned that the same is quite common for football in England. At that, I did bring up how I had seen Nick last week and so thoroughly enjoyed his book FP. yadda yadda yadda However, I do believe location also played in to it. Those bookstore people were pretty smug. Before she got there, they were saying how they get all the *biggies* and get *exclusives.* V. typical attitude for that area. They did serve wine and snacks. A minor plus. fair proportion (maybe one quarter) of the people at the reading had the british paperback edition There was only one other person with the British paperback edition at the signing and she said she picked it up at the airport. There were two Brits at the signing, neither of whom had read the book yet. The younger woman identified herself as British and Helen commented that she sounded more American to her, but I said, to an American she didn't. Then I added that one would never know she herself was from Yorkshire because of her accent. The other woman was surprised, saying she herself was from Shef ield. Helen said that she just lost her Yorkshire accent...it just happened.

Karen....What a TREAT you have given us. A real gift. I read your posting twice! HF was probably not disappointed to have a small group for a change. She has been" on the go". And to find someone as knowledgeable as you; she must have been pleased. Thank you, thank you, for taking the time, You , Kate &, Laura , to share your experiences with us less fortunate . And Ann for giving us the on-line transcript. I downloaded the latter and am sending it to a friend in UK!!At her request. How's that for a turn-about!!

Great report, Karen! I'll wait quite happily for the movie (with CF, of course)......although not YEARS and YEARS! (Evelyn, try for an approx. date...1999, 2000, 2007???) I also like the image of MD strutting in barrister mode clad only in towel. All credit to you if we get more! And thanks for the news about the Rome interview. How is BJD selling....I really hope it takes off for Helen. There was an article in the Telegraph last week about her increasing worldwide popularity......I think 700 people (women? or does Bridget have male supporters) turned up for a book signing session in Norway. BTW I thought Mark Darcy's Diary was very, very funny! Bridget could have a rival! :-)

(Bethan I also like the image of MD strutting in barrister mode clad only in towel. All credit to you if we get more! My personal favorite was CHRISTMAS DAY,( 3 January 1998.) I'm going to ask her if she'll include that episode in the screen play.

Okay, I found the TIME Chat Room Auditorium : Helen Fielding Tuesday, June 16 pm ET /5PT Yahoo & Time Magazine On-Line URL http://www.pathfinder.com/time/community/index.html (sorry,I'm not v. good at creating links...Renate...where are you?) also: here are the rest of the dates: 6/15 Denver Tattered Cover Bookstore 6/16 Book Passage, Corte Madera, Ca. (where is that?) 6/18 Borders, LA I shall alert Jennifer in LA. Anyone want to alert Jana?

Regrettably, BJ seems to have dropped off the NY Times bestseller list. ;-(

It's wierd, one Barnes Ignoble near me has About a Boy, but not BJD, and another (larger one) has BJD, but not AAB.

Ann, my local Books-A-Million insisted that BJD wouldn't be released until August! I got my copy at WaldenBooks (which is a much smaller store). Thanks to everyone who posted accounts of HF's booksignings and readings. I really enjoyed them!

Margaret! Where have you been, hiney? ;-p Did you lose ICQ again?

Ladies in yesterday's New York Times, in the Style Section, there was a horrible review of BJD. She called it passe and said basically that women in the UK are to be pited if they indeed are like B. The NYT is on-line so you may wish to check it out. What says you Laura? If Colin reads it he may not be interested in MD any longer. YIKES!

Margaret! Where have you been, hiney? ;-p Did you lose ICQ again? } Sweatie, I've been right here! ;-b I still have ICQ but it never shows your status. ;-( Are you still active?

(Moon) If Colin reads it he may not be interested in MD any longer. If Colin took all the media criticism of his various projects too seriously, he'd have to change his profession.

Arami, I think that is the MOST cogent thing I've ever heard from you;) Personally, not every review is going to be a great review. Take it with a grain of salt. Was it a man who reviewed the book? If that is the case, then he is a fuckwit and has no clue about women at all! Bridget is me, you, Arami, and Karen R. Nan is perfect so it can't be her;) hee hee. Colin will PLAY MD because he wants to be famous and this will make him famous!

We've just acquired Ally McBeal. Women reviewers gave her the thumbs down (very emphatically). Men like her. Draw your own conclusions! Arami, I think that is the MOST cogent thing I've ever heard from you;) Sabbaticals sharpen the mind! :-)

Laura, it was a woman who also quoted lots of her female friends: they all hated it! I hope you're right about CF wanting to MD. I just want to see him more often.

(Margaret) Sweatie, I've been right here! ;-b I still have ICQ but it never shows your status. ;-( Are you still active? When I got the new computer I had to re-register at ICQ...I sent you an authorization request but it never went through. I'll try it again, baby ;-) (Laura) Nan is perfect so it can't be her;) Well, I'm glad you're finally catching on ;-p Actually, there are many things about Bridget which remind me of myself. Unfortunately, they seem to be her more negative qualities (or what *I* perceive to be negative qualities). This could be why I sometimes want to crack Bridget upside the head...because I've made similar mistakes.

Ah, Nan the truth comes out!!! I think Bridget is everywoman and everywoman is Bridget!!! Just this morning it took me at least thirty minutes looking for decent hose to put on with a run.

I have contacted Jennifer (Winter) and Jana. They will try to attend the HF Booksigning in LA at Borders. Both concur that CF must play the role of MD. (Actually, I'm getting a little paranoid about this.) Tonight is the Yahoo/Time On-Line with HF at 8PM , ET. I shall try to get on, if I can navigate my way through that Chat Room; it looks involved.

(Laura)Colin will PLAY MD because he wants to be famous and this will make him famous! Oh, dear... I'm trying to think of something to say about it and can't. Maybe it's best left without a comment...;-)

...Not so sharp then, Bethan, huh? Well, that's emotional fuckwittage for you, baby ;-P

The transcript of the Yahoo/Time Chat Room will be on-line soon, they say. It was an interesting chat. Sadly, I could never get my browser to accept the Java software and was not ablel to ask the question. But other people asked our questions. CF's name was mentioned several times in connection with MD. The most interesting fact is that HF said she expected the film would be out in 18 months. And she hasn't decided whether B and MD will marry!!!

(Laura)Ah, Nan the truth comes out!!! I think Bridget is everywoman and everywoman is Bridget!!! Yes, I think we all have our bursts of Bridget, though most of mine happened in my early 20s. (Evelyn) The most interesting fact is that HF said she expected the film would be out in 18 months. Oh my! That sounds like a long time. I'm afraid my interest will be gone by then...well, unless Colin decides to take the part ;-) (Laura)Colin will PLAY MD because he wants to be famous and this will make him famous! (Arami) Oh, dear... I'm trying to think of something to say about it and can't. Maybe it's best left without a comment...;-) Well said, m'dear ;-)

The Yahoo chat was kind of weird. I was in this small chat room with five others all of whom had weird handles, and some of whom had no idea about HF and were only there to ask questions like "are you sexy?" BLERK. Makes me realize how civilized our little corner of the web is. But the HF part was very interesting, and they picked a couple of the six or seven questions I posted, including the "will they ever get together?" one. She said that she never really knows what is going to happen until the Friday morning when she starts writing the column (leaving it till the last minute - woman after my own heart), but that she likes MD very much as a character and would be sad to lose him. She also said at one point that not all the columns will end up in the book - some that get written very late are "absolute drivel" or words to that effect!

Bull crap that was well said!!!! Its the truth!!!!

(Kate) She said that she never really knows what is going to happen until the Friday morning when she starts writing the column (leaving it till the last minute - woman after my own heart All procrastinators unite!! But that also supports something I think that Bethan or Allison have been mentioning for quite some time: the fact that Helen doesn't really have a plot well-established in her mind for the columns. I would expect that, when she has to turn the columns into the sequel, she will once again have to come up with a "beginning, middle, and end." ;-) but that she likes MD very much as a character and would be sad to lose him. So do we and IF she loses him, how many others will defect!!

I was cheered to read that HF expects the movie to be out in 18 months. I think that's quite a reasonable timescale and could indicate that they may start shooting soon. A lot of British movies take over 18 months from the first day of the shoot to actually hitting the screen. If (:-( ) MLSF had opened in July, the timescale would have been just over 15 months. But obviously movies can be rushed through as well......SIL seems to be opening quickly. Anyway I think 18 months is positive news...I was worried that HF might take another 2 years to finish the script, by which time it would be a case of Bridget Who?!!! If you're interested in checking out info on BJD (or absolutely anything/one else!), one metasearch engine I use at work is www.askjeeves.com/ It pulls up quite a few articles about BJD in the US (although you also have to sift through the irrelevant stuff). The movie seems to have Hollywood backing.

(Laura) Bull crap that was well said!!!! Its the truth!!!! I still don't agree. We've had this discussion about Colin and fame (or lack thereof) so many times that I've run out of things to say--apparently, Arami has as well ;-) Sorry dear, all the exclamation points in the world will not convince me that Colin would accept a role simply because he craves fame.

but that she likes MD very much as a character and would be sad to lose him. Actually, last night at one point , she casually said ;"I coud live without him". I will let you know when Time posts the transcript. They seem to be behind.

Has no one mentioned the People magazine article on Helen Fielding this past week? Wot?! Kate Winslett and Minnie Driver being considered as Bridgets? What bitter irony to have a mint fresh, shiny new ingenue playing 30-something, battered-a-bit Bridget. Let's hope the people with influence will see the light.

It's Hollywood star power. If Hollywood have a vested interest in BJD - The Movie, then they will go for names rather than verisimilitude. If Working Title want to be true to the book they should cast someone who is relatively unknown, but if they want the movie to be promoted and successful in the US (and without this exposure, a movie cannot be deemed a success )they'll have to go for names. I'd lay even money it is KW or MD. Does CF have Hollywood star power?!!!

(Heide) Kate Winslett and Minnie Driver being considered as Bridgets? Kate Winslet has the heft, but Minnie Driver has the face of averageness. However, I can't see Minnie putting on the pounds to play the role after having taken up the anorexic/bulimic lifestyle and hanging around with a convict druggie. Of course they are both way too young. (Bethan) Does CF have Hollywood star power?!!! This is a rhetorical question, isn't it? ;-)

What about Kristin Scott Thomas as Bridget. She is a) British, but is b) known well enough in the US, c) has the right age, and d) she's a very good actress. That she is very thin doesn't matter, IMO, since this dieting-mania has nothing to do with the actual weight, but is a state of mind, and would be emphasised in its absurdity by a very slim actress. If it had to be an American actress there can only be one: Jeaneane Garofalo (Help! How do you spell her first name!?). Come to think of it, she's exactl the person who could bring BJ's character across....

What about Meg Ryan? She is also the right age.

unbelieveable... so exactly 24 hours ago, Jana and I actually saw Helen Fielding! She made an appearance at the Borders Bookstore at the Santa Monica Promenade (same setting as Colin's interview a while back), and just our luck: we sat right in front of HF's podium!!!!! She read the pregnancy test excerpt from her book, which drew lots of laughs.OH oh! oh!!!! AND she enlightened us (me at least) on the correct pronunciation of "fuckwittage": [fuck-wit-ahh-zsh] very shi-shi and French for a cuss word, if you ask me ;-) anyway, she's really very beautfiful in person, taller than i had imagined, so she sort of looks statuesque in an un-Bridget sort of way.But she's so down to earth, and answered all the questions, and didn't mind the 2 colin questions i asked her. -she didn't get specific about whether or not he'll be marck darcy, but she's run the idea past him, he hasn't committed to any other films for the next 3 years, and ... well, she's hoping for him to sign off to do it. -i asked her about the interview she did in rome with him. she had a good time with him, and they kept staring at a statue somewhere in rome, and she kept thinking "mr. darcy, mr. darcy.." anyway, i also hit her up for a part in the movie.. since i'm considered an 'ethnic type' in Hollywood, i figured the only part i was good for was Elena Rossini (was that her name?).. the woman accused of murdering her employer, and who was defended by mark darcy in trial. (Bridjet gets an exclusive interview with her). HF drew a complete blank when i told her i wanted to be Elena Rossini-- really dumb question on my part, but hey-- i had to ask. she'll be living in LA now, for the time being, as she writes the screenplay. I'm so excited! Jana and I had a lovely talk after the booksigning (i'll try to scan our picture!).. and it's so amazing how much we have in common and can talk about, though this was the first time we've actually spoken to one another. Anyway, i'm neglecting someone in the other room right now... so i have to sign off. but i just wanted to share our little encounter with HF. winter (jennifer)

There has to be actresses out there not only the right age but also the right look. Kristen Scott Thomas? I wonder if she can get past her "classy dame" typecasting; Janeann Garofalo, oddly enough, looks like the Bridget in my mind - that's a possibility; Meg Ryan? IMO, too blonde and bubbly. Surely there are other Brits out there who can do this? How about Emily Watson?

he hasn't committed to any other films for the next 3 years E-e-ech! I want him to do MD...but not THAT much! Commit, Colin, commit!

Commit, Colin, commit! Ditto here. This must be some misunderstanding, surely. Perhaps at the time they talked he had no other plans and tentatively agreed to keep BJD in mind.

on casting bridget: I always thought that actress from "Friends" should play Bridget. I don;t remember her name, but she playerd Ross' finacee, and sh's been on a PBS series for a while now. can someone gimme her name?

Thank you Winter and Jana for attending the LA Booksigning. You did us proud!! And we appreciate your efforts. , he hasn't committed to any other films for the next 3 years, and ... well, she's hoping for him to sign off to do it I am in shock.Why, Why is he doing this?? Casting Bridget: Tara Ftizgerald ( Brassed Off, Tenant of Wilfell Hall). Kate Beckinsale, Samantha Bond (Rebecca), It can't anybody too beautiful...they wouldn't be out there looking for a husband. The guys would be lining up for them!! As for CF's Star Wattage ...if it's a well-known Bridget, MD's role would not need a megastar. (Sliding Doors with GP and John Hannah...an obscure Scottish actor...has been on the top 10 films in the US) I hope they don't cast Jennifer Jason Leigh...I read she is eager to do a role with a British accent!!! If HF is to live in LA for the duration of the screenplay writing...will she continue the weekly BJD installments in the Telegraph.??

Sorry I'm tardy with my report on the Helen Fielding book signing, but thanks for sending me. Jennifer and I had a great time! I have to admit I hadn't read any of BJD before I went, but enjoyed the reading and meeting her in person. As others have said, HF is quite attractive, witty and charming. I'm not sure I have a lot of news to report. Most of the comments and anecdotes that HF shared I have already (or since) read in other interviews with her. For example, we got the "looking at the Moses statue in Rome and moaning Mr. Darcy" story, for example. There was a pretty large, appreciative crowd there who laughed in all the right places during the reading. Winter (jennifer) was brave and asked if CF would consider playing Mark Darcy. HF related the story I've read before about her asking him to do it at a party and him saying he'd save the next three years. Hearing her say it in person however, I got the distinct impression it was just teasing banter between them, not a real type of commitment. She had quite the twinkle in her eye and she phrased it so carefully, I would bet that there is no real understanding yet that CF will in fact play M.D. This is ertainly only IMHO and I will happily eat my hat later if it turns out to be true. Someone asked if she would be returning to London since this was her last signing, and she said no, she was staying on in LA to work on the screenplay. The crowd oooohed in unison to this for some reason, and we all laughed, HF included. I think we were just so happy that she was sticking around our little world for awhile. (She didn't say for how long though, Evelyn. Sorry, I should have asked.) It sounds like there is still quite a bit of work to be done on the screenplay. Maybe HF will snag tha CF commitment yet! Someone asked what she thought about the different places in America that she'd visited. She really liked New York and thought it looked like a movie set. She didn't see much of Washington DC or Boston other than the hotel rooms. She liked Chicago and thought it looked like a perfectly designed, imaginary city one would create in the SimCity game. She didn't think the Denver reading went particularly well. There was a lot of shifting about uncomfortably when she used the first swear word (I think it as F**kwittage) and she said she felt a bit like she was heading towards Niagara Falls in a barrel because she knew she had to read the "B**stards, B**stards" part shortly. Jennifer asked if HF had really done the CF interview in person, and she said yes. HF said CF was a delightful person and that he really got into the spirit of the interview. (or maybe she said he was charming. I can't remember exactly, but she clearly likes our DB. :-) We had just a brief, private moment to speak with her when she was signing our books. The book store folks were moving the line along quickly. Jennifer told HF we were from the internet group and she brightened up and said something like "You folks have been at almost every signing. There was a woman in Chigaco, I remember." (so you see K, you made quite the impression) I said, "Oh yes, that would be Karen. And the ladies at the net made sure we were attending tonight so that we would definitely have LA representation." HF just laughed. Then Jennifer had a moment with her, we got our picture taken and were whisked out of the way. So, as I said, not a lot new to report, except that she's currently doing the Hollywood thing. My journalistic skills are a bit lacking, I fear. Anyway, thanks ladies, for suggesting a lovely evening. Far and away the best part was meeting Jennifer, real live and in person :-).

(Bethan and Arami) Commit, Colin, commit! Ditto here. This must be some misunderstanding, surely. Perhaps at the time they talked he had no other plans and tentatively agreed to keep BJD in mind. My impression of CF's comment that he'd wait three years to play MD was that it was something flip he threw out at a party to hush up HF, not that he really had no plans in the works for the next three years. I could be wrong, but I thought HF made it sound that he was just teasing about waiting the three years for this part. Only MHO, but there you are.

Jana, you have excellent journalistic skills. And we thank you for going.to the LA Booksigning I, too, am glad that we had representatives all over (except Denver...which didn't go well. Maybe, that's why!! ) Thanks to all The Spring Reporters, the rest of us got to find out some good stuff.Thanks for sharing guys!! BTW USA TODAY list of the Top 50 Best Sellers in the US ranks BJD as 42. (Last week it was 58). I noted at Borders that it is a Book of the Month Club Selection. Way to Go, HF!!

Have you seen HF's diary of her trip around the States? It's hilarious, especially the account of her media training (no wonder the poor thing answered all questions the same way!) and the sound-bite-esqueness of the whole interview process... I LOLed at this... "Go to Central Park, first removing all jewellery and stuffing money and credit cards cunningly into bra. Assume will be murdered on arrival but find ambrosia-like Utopia - children playing ball games, gay lovers canoodling, smiling grandpas etc." since I did exactly the same thing when I first came to NYC.

Thanks Jennifer and Jana for the great reports. I remember in one of her interviews, she said that she bought a book in true Bridgetesque fashion on how to write a screenplay. Guess that it didn't do the trick!! Needs private tutoring from the pros. Either that or wants to go to Disneyland. Loved her *Report* from the States. I seriously doubt that the sign she posed with in Chicago said "Haircolouring by Bridget" unless signmaker is time-served graduate of Chicago Public School system and therefore cannot spell. Too bad she went to eat at the 95th. Is only good for the view and for having a drink on a clear day. Have found inverse relationship between altitude of restaurants and quality of food. Starting, though, to notice absence of anything old Hmmm, Chicago call boy escort must failed to have told her that city burned down in the 1870s. Another CPS graduate. BTW, call boy did not look like Richard Gere. v.disappointing. You're quite right, Kate, about that media training. She certainly learned her bullet points well. OK, big question: What is a twin set? The only association I get from twin sets are those sweater sets that were worn in the '50s and '60s and might be worn today by those shopping at Talbots or readers of Town & Country. Retro fashion????

(Winter) I always thought that actress from "Friends" should play Bridget. I don;t remember her name, but she playerd Ross' finacee Her name is Helen Baxendale. I'm glad you agree. She is playing Cordelia Gray in the Mystery series, "An Unsuitable Job for a Woman." She is average looking (i.e., not perfect), but has the potential to be pretty. The only thing is I wonder how she would do playing a major ditz. Renate: While Janene Garafalo (sp.?) might look right and definitely played a woman who is insecure in "The Truth About Cats and Dogs," I've heard her being interviewed and she is way too intelligent. I couldn't imagine her playing a ditz.

I've heard her being interviewed and she is way too intelligent. I couldn't imagine her playing a ditz. LOL! So much for your knowledge of acting skills...

Congrats Karen on getting recognition for the Chicago ladies! Yes, it does sound as if HF was repeating (as per her orders) the same sound bites. I think it's interesting that she's staying on in LA to work on the screenplay.....maybe it's reached the "knocking into shape" stage! I'm repeating what I've just said on #59, but I think that Emma Thompson's younger sister Sophie (she was in Emma) would make a good Bridget..she usually does comedy.

Yes, it does sound as if HF was repeating (as per her orders) the same sound bites. The media-managers didn't count on us who followed all her television interviews and on-line chats....AND the reports from The Spring Reporters. I would have liked to have heard what HF herselfwould have answered. Instead of scripting her.

(Maria) LOL! So much for your knowledge of acting skills... She is primarily a comedienne and I wouldn't think she would want to play a ditz. That's just my take on her. It has nothing to do with obviously my inferior knowledge of acting.

To end the casting question once and for all. Hello all I am back from the Cape and cannot believe that Renate was left in charge. Hee hee. Anyway. For Bridget: Imogen Stubbs aka Lucy Steele Claire Rushbrook aka I have no clue. Janeane Garofalo is too intelligent to play Bridget and too American!!! And can we please be civil here. I understand everyone has their own opinion as to who should play what and whom, but when everyone starts getting testy it makes for a nasty page ESPECIALLY when we now know that Ms Fielding can jump on this page whenever she wants. Thank and now back to the studio.

(Karen)She is primarily a comedienne and I wouldn't think she would want to play a ditz. That's just my take on her. It has nothing to do with obviously my inferior knowledge of acting. I am sorry if you feel offended, but it seemed that you were questioning an actor's ability and/or willingness to stretch. That's typecasting. (Laura)And can we please be civil here. Are you taking over from Renate?

Ms Fielding can jump on this page whenever she wants. I have to confess that this is not something that fills me with joy and delight (much as I love your books, Helen). If someone is going to hand over the url to a subject of our discussion, could you at least give us some notice, if not actually discuss it with us?

Kate: If someone is going to hand over the url to a subject of our discussion, could you at least give us some notice, if not actually discuss it with us? I was under the impression that this is a public board. Anyone can access it through The Spring. No one invited me!

Kate: If someone is going to hand over the url to a subject of our discussion.... I thought that she found it on her own, and that she mentioned having found the website before anyone had told her about it. I know I've done a couple of web searches on my name, and it's not surprising that other people do as well. Now, if only HF will join us in the chat room some time!

I was under the impression that this is a public board of course it is. But that does not mean we actually have to tell the objects of our discussion about it - if they find it on their own, well and good. I thought that she found it on her own Oops! in that case I was mistaken. I thought Karen or Laura gave her the url.

TIME MAGAZINE has posted the transcript of the June 16th interview in the TIME/Yahoo Chat Room with Helen Fielding. http://pathfinder.com/time/community/transcripts/chattr061698.html

HF found this site by doing a search, but I did not get the impression that she comes here very often and only to get a feeling of our reaction to her columns, i.e, why there isn't a lot of discussion when she focuses on news items v. the Bridget-Mark relationship. She has not intention of posting. I gave the Electronic Telegraph url to several people, but not this place. So I suggest that we just continue as before...saying what we want to and forget the fact that HF *might* read it. However, I might tone down my threats of bodily harm a bit...or maybe not!! :-) Speaking of Time magazine, the cover this week is entitled "Is Feminism Dead" and depicts Susan B. Anthony to Ally McBeal. I had a feeling that BJD might be mentioned and she is...about three paragraphs trashing the so-called British version of AMc. Ah yes, where has feminist literature gone? To compare BJD to the 60s and 70s seminal works of Germaine Greer, Kate Millet, Betty Friedan, et al. is positively absurd. Time: lighten up!!@ BTW, Kate, I was surprised that Bridget in America didn't note the absence of pavement folk art (chalk outlines of people) in NYC which, if one believes all one sees in movies/TV, should be all over the place. Perhaps, Bridget/HF thought Central Park was a violent place because Kennedy hunks might be assaulted by their fiancees! ;-)

Thanks for the transcript of the HF interview! Actually, talking about searching on names, if you search on "Colin Firth" on some search engines you come straight into the Spring (Drool), and the same must apply to a search on HF!

Evelyn, read the chat transcript and thought the session had some great stuff in it. More than the usual answers we heard everywhere else. Her comment about whether Bridget and Mark are EVER going to get it together was definitely optimistic. "But I really like Mark Darcy as a character and I'm not sure I could live without him." Was that your question, Kate? Does no one know what a "twin set" is? Am on the edge of my chair and have bitten my nails down to the quick! ;-)

Her comment about whether Bridget and Mark are EVER going to get it together was definitely optimistic. "But I really like Mark Darcy as a character and I'm not sure I could live without him." Was that your question, Kate? yes. ;-) Does no one know what a "twin set" is? Am on the edge of my chair and have bitten my nails down to the quick! ;-) A twin set, as I understand it could mean either a sweater and cardigan set or a dress and jacket set. I don't think it refers to a suit, but I'm not claiming to be an authority on english fashion terms, and I could have this complelety wrong.

Karen: To compare BJD to the 60s and 70s seminal works of Germaine Greer, Kate Millet, Betty Friedan, et al. is positively absurd. Time: lighten up!! Why don't you write a letter to the TIME editors and tell them that. Someone should come out in defense of Bridget and HF. (I feel as if they're part of my family!!....or at least good friends!!) BTW twin-sets are the short sleeve and cardigan matching sweater sets. They're hot now...a little retro.

Re: Twin Sets ...but didn't she mention a gingham one in the Denver section? I've never seen a gingham sweater set, but then again I've never seen a purple cow either. ;-)

I have nothing enlightening to say, but just wanted to join in the enthusiasm over THE BOOK. I have just read it (twice) and am passing it around to my single friends (I am a smug married). My husband asked what I was laughing so much about. I have a question to those of you who are "in the know". Why is there this backlash against Mark Darcy in these postings? Has Ms. Fielding continued the story and turned the dashing man from the book into something else? Does she continue writing for the newspape (or wherever this story started) and if so, which one, and can I access it from my computer? I'd love to read a continuing saga. Thanks.

(Susan) Does she continue writing for the newspaper (or wherever this story started) and if so, which one, and can I access it from my computer? I'd love to read a continuing saga. Welcome , Susan. Yes HF writes a weekly column in the Saturday issue of the Electronic Telegraph (only it stays on all week) www.telegraph.co.uk Click on "Etcetera" Scroll down to the bottom. And as a bonus, The Telegraph gives you all the back installments too. You'll be as hooked as the rest of us. And hey, we all like Mark Darcy....on account of we expect Colin Firth to play the role in the forthcoming film. So ,start reading and then, by all means tell us what you think every week..

I have to say that this was one of the funniest columns HF has written recently. First of all the recitation of the famous people: "gay". And the description of Jerome's poetry reading had me ROTFLOLing.... And it ties up so neatly at the end: Jerome: straight.

I couldn't help but think of HF's book tour when she started talking about book groups. I was just waiting for her to mention someone named Karen or Laura.

I thought last week's column was a hoot too, Esp. the ladies of the Lifeboat Book Club sitting on their faux regency chairs listening to Pretentious Jerome!! What a picture! BTW I wrote to Time Magazine and explained that HF did not write BJD to be a feminist treatise to be compared with Germaine Greer or Gloria Steinem as the writer intimated in last week's cover story. Anyone else want to email: Letters@time.com Give name, address and daytime phone..

CNN is doing a piece on Helen Fielding and Bridget Jones. It will be on their Entertainment Weekly/CNN show Thursday night at 10 PM Eastern.

THERE'S only one explanation," declared Jude. "Mark Darcy's gay." Quite right!! Only one explanation that a scorned woman could accept. One that would make her feel better as though the breakup had nothing to do with with her!! So, that would...what...make Rebecca a transvestite, right? ;-O She's v.tall and has a pert bum. Could only be a guy. Is biologically against laws of nature!! no. of days since saw Gary the Builder, who...pretended something had happened between us, then disappeared again: 13 So much for the grand passion, Laura. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing. How better than to get Bridget than to put Mark down and pretend to be the sensitive Alan Alda-ish male and bring her capuccino in the a.m.!! Can spot a skunk at 1000 yds.) (Ann) I couldn't help but think of HF's book tour when she started talking about book groups. I was just waiting for her to mention someone named Karen or Laura. Yes, I was starting to get uncomfortable, myself!! :-) Hmmm Does HF think we should, perhaps, get a life? FYI, there is a great interview with HF at amazon.com. It has some of the pat answers we've all seen plus a few of the things that were in her "Bridget in America" column, but other new comments. The url is really long, but you can access from the home page. There's a ref to HF and Bridget and there are three link options. I'm sure you can figure out which one to go to. :-)

Hmmm Does HF think we should, perhaps, get a life? Nevah!

Susan, welcome to our nightmare!!! hee hee. Regarding the why I hate Mark Darcy. Well read the columns and you'll see;) Hee hee. I really have noting to add, sad isn't it! I've been gone for a week or so and can't think of one bloody thing to say:)

Welcome Back, dear leader....we have missed your pithy remarks!! Thank you, Ann for the info on HF to be featured on CNN tomorrow night What would we do without Ann who keeps us posted on the BJD promos. . And Karen, that interview with HF on Amazon.com is great. Mobetta' than some of the Chat Rooms where they often ask inane question. (Like mine!)

On the CNN/Entertainment Weakly show, the bozo bloke said that Bridget should be played by Christina Ricci! Excuse me! Yes, let's have a 30-something, with biological-clock ticking, woman who is reaching her sell-by date played by a 19 year old. EXCUSE ME!!!! I really fear that Hollywood is going to do this sort of thing to BJ.

(Ann) I really fear that Hollywood is going to do this sort of thing to BJ. I do too. I just hope they keep the cast British.. But if they do I lay bets GP gets the role...she was mentioned in the CNN /Entertainment Weekly Show. Along with Toni Colette, and Heather Locklear (sp?)Also Minnie Driver with 20 lbs.( I said that months ago). No mention of MD in the interview.CF still has a shot...esp. if they cast it with a well-known Bridget. Two unkowns in a $$$ film...uh,uh.

Wednesday Addams!!! Are those people out of their minds? Definitely agree with you, Ann, Christina Ricci is TOO young. That list of possibles they came up must have really taxed their little pea-brains. Not one new name that we haven't already heard bandied about. All pretty mainstream choices. No one who would really qualify as an unknown. BTW, Looked like the outfit HF was wearing in Chicago. Dark pantsuit with a white bodysuit underneath. The one here had little subtle pin stripes. Couldn't tell if this one did as well.

I just hope they keep the cast British.. But if they do I lay bets GP gets the role.. ?? last time I checked, GP wasn't British....

?? last time I checked, GP wasn't British... I knew someone was going to get me on that the minute I hit submit!! But you know what I mean...I don't want them to Americanize Bridget (keep London locale etc.). And GP's British accent is "flawless" (London Times) Aside from the fact that she is too skinny and too beautiful...I wouldn't have a problem with GP. She was great in Sliding Doors.

He's BACK!!! Yea! Markie is back in the story! Laura and I thought the line about needing more communication sounded an awful lot like things we have said in here. HF is using our ideas!!!

When Mark Darcy appeared at door, lungs got in throat. Always forget how tall, strong yet kind, and irresistible he is. Pffft!! Not me, honey, you don't deserve him. ;-) At this he sprang to his feet and started pacing. He was still in his work suit, with top buttons all undone showing his hairy chest: all hot and rumpled and manly. Mmmm....Ask and ye shall receive. Thank you. :-) I'll sort everything out. I never realised you felt so...so much. Oh darling. Sort what out? He's clueless. He thinks that Bridget's all upset about the match. But if that gets the two of them back together, who am I to complain?

Happy Fourth of July and welcome back MD! Mmmm....Ask and ye shall receive. Thank you. :-) Reader power, y-e-ess! Great episode. HF is spot-on. The David Beckham sending off transfixed the nation. At work, the next day, my male colleagues acted as though someone had died. Talk about morose! And I love the bit about the Queen. A journalist asked her if she was going to watch the match and she replied "what time is it?" And I'm v. happy to see the reurrn of MD! He walked in purposefully like he always does, inspecting everything But, yes, what/who is he going to sort out? David Beckham? Is Rebecca dumped? Can't see her giving up MD without a fight!

Bridget calls him on Tuesday night at 9PM. He is going to "call back". Then he prances in on Thursday at midnight. Sheeeesh!!

Okay, Bridget is a doormat and needs a friggin' spine!!! What COMMUNICATION???? She didn't talk; she internalised. Mark D. has no clue, yes it was a wonderful episode, but what is he going to fix. Try Hoddle for Treason no, no, better yet, Beckham for treason for getting the damn red card and getting tossed out of the game. Or the Argies by winning in pathetic PKs? Can't say that too loud as brother in law is an Argies;) Thank God, Hollan beat the crap out of the Argies!!!! Oh yeah, Go Croatia!!!! And Holland!! (I always root for the underdog!) Now back to Bridget. Hole is becoming a great conversation piece, should keep it. Mark leaves Bridget all hot and bothered and goes back to Rebecca, because as Tina Turner said "he is a typical male":) Something about this leaves a definite bad taste in my mouth. Oh yeah, I'm back;) hee hee.

Yes, the air was hardly cleared. And what is Rebecca going to do....she's not going to say "Go back to Bridget darling, with my blessing. You two are meant for each other". Hasn't Mark seen "Fatal Attraction"? I hope he doesn't have a pet rabbit! Or maybe R. is just a trophy hunter....but I would have thought MD would be a trophy for keeps.

I was surprised to have just found a copy of Fever Pitch at a Barnes Ignoble here in Minneapolis. I'm happy. :-)

hi... i've been lurking over the past few weeks...sort of pissed and sort of happy that bridge and mark shared that intimate, hot and bothered moment. i asked my sports-fanatic boyfriend whether or not a man would actually be attracted to a woman even more, were she to show as much emotion over a game as a man did. to my surprise, he told me that a mutual friend of ours stayed with his girlfriend as long as he did (he lost interest WAAAAY before the eventual break up) because she was just as interested an knowledgeable in football he was. AGH! BTW, have worsened my eyesight due to the fact that last weekend, i bought both about a boy and high fidelity. read both in the course of three days. i have lost ability to see anything past sundown, but oh.... these two novels are so well worth it! (anyone know how i can get a hold of nick hornby? i want to wite him a letter)

(Winter) BTW, have worsened my eyesight due to the fact that last weekend, i bought both about a boy and high fidelity. read both in the course of three days. i have lost ability to see anything past sundown, but oh.... these two novels are so well worth it! I just finished About a Boy last weekend and High Fidelity not long before that. I agree with you Winter, both were hilarious and a fabulous read! I'm just beginning my HF autographed copy of BJD - am trying to catch up with all of you. So far it's vg :-)

i asked my sports-fanatic boyfriend whether or not a man would actually be attracted to a woman even more, were she to show as much emotion over a game as a man did. I watched a game on TV in a pub and a young boy actually insisted on buying me a couple of drinks when he saw me jumping up and down and yelling... I don't know about "attraction" as such (or perhaps it happens as a bonus), but there is strong cross-gender bonding emerging over shared interests. The problem is, people still do not "expect" women to like sport (=butch), or men to get excited about, say, cookery (=sissies), but there's less and less of that. Our modern times actually encourage equalization in these areas, stereotypes are disappearing.

Hmmmmm..... This installment has left me feeling a bit empty inside. I know I should be glad that Mark dumped Rebecca, but for some reason I'm not terribly thrilled. I think perhaps I've thought him a total spineless dweeb for so long, that I no longer want Bridge to be stuck with him? Maybe I don't believe him when he says he is through with the Jellyfisher--and she certainly won't give up that easy. Maybe I'm still wondering about Gary (who apparently does not have a refridgerator-repairman's butt-crack). And why does Bridget sabotage herself at every opportunity? "Are you a man," I said, turning to face him belligerently, "or a mousse?" I know the answer to that--she keeps listening to the Shazzer even when she's been giving bad advice from the outset.

Are you a man...or a mousse? LMAO!! If of the chocolate variety, then who cares!! All that matters is that Mark is back!! He's pried the Jellyfisher's tentacles off him. Hoorah!! Agree though that Rebecca will not let this stand. She doesn't strike me as the type who could live with being the *dumpee* Can't decide against whom she will strike out. sabotage herself Naw! Just Bridget finally speaking up for herself like we've been wanting her to do for months. OK, so's she's a little soused. She could've said "hair gel." ;-) wondering about Gary Sorry, but I don't think he's going to be the Prince Charming that Laura has fantasized. for the first time ever with Mark nothing seemed to be well...happening Just stress. Purely temporary condition. Emotionally drained. No need for Mark to make an appointment at the doctor's yet. Not my Markeeeeee!!

HF responds to feminist critique in US by incorporating it into story line!! Yay HF! I think this is v. funny and moderately post modern. HF, having dealt with all the flak in the press about BJ being a product of too many self help books and beauty magazines, incorportates this into her story line: BJ is attacked by friends and self for being insufficiently spineful. I love it! And I'm glad she turned around and told him off. Just to take him back without a murmur would be ridiculous. And as its obviously going to be shortlived (they can't stay together for long or HF will run out of story) maybe MD's "little problem" is going to be the source of the next split?

The mousse that roared! Good on you, Bridget! Nothing seemed to be well....happening And no wonder. Obviously the stress of maintaining a dual relationship and a high powered job, not to mention all these midnight dashes to Bridget's flat, dinner parties and mini-breaks, have taken their toll of MD. What he needs is an early night with a good book and a mug of Horlicks. The next stage.....well, I still foresee a Fatal Attraction scenario with the dumped Rebecca striking back. And when is Bridget going to get a foot in Mark's door (ie huge detached house in posh Holland Park)!

(Ann) This installment has left me feeling a bit empty inside. This one hit me after the fact!! LOL!! A little *unsatisfied* perhaps. (Kate) HF responds to feminist critique in US by incorporating it into story line!! Hmmmm Didn't she get any flak in the UK? Where've you been, girl? Post-modern, indeed. Don't want to get tooo deep here. ;-) (Bethan) I still foresee a Fatal Attraction scenario with the dumped Rebecca striking back. V. possibly. We all know how good your eyes are. ;-) Another Tarts and Vicars party with Bridge wearing a bunny tail, perhaps!!

WALL STREET JOURNAL BEST SELLING BOOKS FICTION 4. ``Bridget Jones's Diary'' by Helen Fielding (Viking) PUBLISHERS WEEKLY BEST SELLING BOOKS HARDCOVER FICTION 3. ``Bridget Jones's Diary'' by Helen Fielding (Viking) USA TODAY BEST SELLING BOOKS 20. ``Bridget Jones's Diary'' by Helen Fielding (Viking) (F-H) Key: F-Fiction; NF-Nonfiction; H-Hardcover; P-Paperback USA Today's list is based on a computer analysis of retail book sales nationwide last week. Included are more than 1 million volumes from approximately 3,000 large-inventory, diverse-content bookstores.

HF in the charts........is this good/v.good/exceptional for a first novel by an unknown in the US? How did Nick Hornby do with "About a boy"? It probably also means that there will be more interest in getting the film version up and running......hopefully!

About A Boy never hit the bestsellers' list. My Sunday paper showed BJD dropped from fourth to seventh this week nationally, although I don't know its source.

This week's New York Times Best Sellers List: BJD is #4 up from #8 last week after only 4 weeks on the list.

Awful few weeks - lost my way here. What use is BJD without the BJD discussion group? Twin set - as understood in UK, believe twin set is jacket and skirt in same material (often tweedy?), associated with middle-aged women pre-WW2 (though am man, and therefore not fashion expert). Can confirm woman showing genuine interest in sport increases attraction levels dramatically - difficult to rationalise, but true. Also can confirm GP's accent in Sliding Doors was so flawless as to spark several arguments about whether she wasn't English or resident. Surprised by HF staying in LA, I actually thought I saw her in a restaurant here in London on Friday.

(MarkG) Awful few weeks - lost my way here. What use is BJD without the BJD discussion group? v. true. Felt same when site down for four days. twin set is jacket and skirt in same material (often tweedy?) Work for British Vogue? Can confirm woman showing genuine interest in sport increases attraction levels dramatically - difficult to rationalise, but true. Why difficult? Evidence of shallowness. ;-) Also can confirm GP's accent in Sliding Doors was so flawless as to spark several arguments about whether she wasn't English or resident. Scary, isn't it. Apparently, she thinks self is also. Should talk to parents more often.

Work for British Vogue? Mark, you cannot be English and definitely do not work for Vogue if you think a twin set is a skirt and jacket made of tweed!! Also can confirm GP's accent in Sliding Doors was so flawless as to spark several arguments about whether she wasn't English or resident. In a recent interview she said she hated bubble and squeak, therefore there is no doubt. She cannot even be even an honourary English woman!!

Okay, I've been fairly silent of late and would like to change that:) First of all, so Mark FINALLY leaves Rebecca!!! But, and I mean but, how long does he stay with Bridge and does he, in essence go back to Bridge. I mean with mum on the answerphone talking about Viagara and he can't quite get it up; should prove quite interesting:) I betcha anything she is reading this

I betcha anything she is reading this oh puhleeze.... don't you think she has better things to do? as in, a life? ;-) and if she is reading this, don't you think she would find our analysis of her column down to the tiniest detail, a mite pathetic ;-) (as in, get a life?)

She found the site on her own and said that she would check it again, so what's so far fetched, Kate? Do you think famous people don't surf the net? Only people like us?

I wasn't clear that she found it on her own - I thought one of us gave it to her, but I'm happy to concede the point. However, if she is in Hollywood working on a screenplay (though that may not be the case!) she probably doesn't have time, given that she's also writing her column and keeping up with events at home sufficiently to make it current. Also, to be honest, I think repeatedly saying "she's reading this" not only makes us more self conscious about what we post, but also perhaps gives us an inflated idea of our own importance in her universe. I'm sure famous people surf the net. I just think BUSY people don't - or not as often as the rest of us do. I know I am nostalgically surfing madly at the moment, knowing that when I start a real job again in a month or so, time to surf is simply not going to exist.

Keep in mind that she doesn't start writing the weekly column until Friday (and it shows up here in the states around 8:30pm Friday night), I think you might overrate the ammount of time that she spends on it. Concidering how disjointed and incoherent it is at times from week to week, I wish she would spend more time on it.

Apologies for ignorant definition of twin-set. I do not work for Vogue. I have little fondness for bubble and squeak, so maybe I'm not even English. I feel if the column is ever disjointed and incoherent, this is quite deliberate from HF, and totally in keeping with Bridget. I thought this week's was one of the best ever, with Bridget even in her moment of triumph jeopardising the relationship with feminist sensibilities, and then the great MD falling down on the job!

Kate, Helen Fielding has told everyone that she is the biggest procrastinator on the other side of the pond! Surfing is better when at work! hee hee. Anyway, she came across this quite on her own because in Boston she said that there was a board where women from the States discuss BJD. My hand immediately went up and I told her that I created the topic. AND I also invited her to join in the conversation at times. She was quite ecstatic that "Americans" were discussing this little British book!!! I ex lained that we said what we felt and that there were "no holds barred"; especially, when I told her the numerous times I called Mark Darcy a F-ckwit! She was pleased that-- well, I was honest in my opinions!

Let's just forget that HF might occasionally visit here. Saw a number of doctors being interviewed last week at the BMA convention in Cardiff. Amazingly high numbers being bandied about for men needing Viagra. If what I hear about the waiting list situation is true, would be criminal if NHS provided Viagra, a medically sanctionaed recreational drug in the US. ;-) Of course, it has been the substance of most talk show comedians' standup routines since coming out. Do you think there's an official Viagra joke book out here on the Web?

Has anyone seen the readers' reviews of BJD at amazon.com Bestsellers - all 113 of them? Mostly 5 star raves. There seem to be a lot of Bridget Jones out there!

I was disappointed in this week's TIME letters to the Editor that no one took up for Bridget (alas, I wrote, but it was not published ). However, one letter should make HF feel good: ...".It seems a sad state of affairs when every young woman who writes about culture is judged on whether she is a "good feminist." Women should be judged for the individual voices we are not for whether we conform to an outdated vision of what a good feminist is. It is a sign that feminism has not died, but has succeeded....young women don't have to be as single-minded or rigid as Gloria Steinem or Germaine Greer....." Keep going, Helen. Don't capitulate to your critics.

This morning on CBS This Morning the book reviewer from USA TODAY gave BJD a glowing review for a summer read..."a must for your beach bag..." She called Bridget one of the most* endearing* modern day heroines . (Imagine...our B.!) " She loves everybody, is kind to family and friends. Looking for love....painfully insecure...but we all end up cheering up for her!" I think Our Girl has made it!!

I cannot believe that no one posted regarding today's/last night's BJD. Ok, personally, I didn't think Rebecca would deign to show up the next day! after being chucked by Mark. I thought she was more in control, but I guess not:) hee hee. And to accuse Bridge of pinching Mark, hee hee, what a joke. Someone give this lady therapy!!!! Mark telling Rebecca that he wants to LIVE with Bridget, hmmmm... The house smelled... mmmmm... like sex no doubt!! I think Pam Jones is much better than Viagara...... And I don't think we've seen the last of Rebecca or Gary for that matter. I envision it now... Bridget is in the shower there is a knock on the door Mark (in towel, no less) opens door to see two cappuccinos being thrust at him. It's Gary!!! hee hee.

(Bethan)Yes, the air was hardly cleared. And what is Rebecca going to do....she's not going to say "Go back to Bridget darling, with my blessing. You two are meant for each other". Hasn't Mark seen "Fatal Attraction"? I hope he doesn't have a pet rabbit! Or maybe R. is just a trophy hunter....but I would have thought MD would be a trophy for keeps. How prophetic!! Do you think that Rebecca in sleek, black convertible will park outside of Bridge's flat every night that Mark decides to stay the night??? And why the hell didn't Bridge SLAP her!! Did anyone learn anything from Dynasty and Alexis and Krystle??

Wasn't Mark there for a whole week - or have I misread something? I actually think that Mark got off rather lightly! Perhaps Rebecca will plan some dastardly revenge!

Laura I cannot believe that no one posted regarding today's/last night's BJD. Saturday's Electronic Telegraph didn't come on last night as usual. I bet they were waiting for HF !! This is one of my all time favorites...next to the Christmas Dinner. I wonder if it's part of the screenplay. ...can contribute suitable insights ... ..to football. I think HF must have read Winter and Mark G's posting re: men get turned on to women who are interested in sports. Anyway...Bridget 5....Rebecca 0 7/17/98 Publisher's Weekly Hard Cover Best Sellers List: BJD is # 3 (6 weeks on the list)

Wasn't Mark there for a whole week - or have I misread something? I was confused about that myself. When they left the flat, it was after being together for 14 hours. Other entry was current or one week later, i.e., Mark wanting to watch the next match with his friend. I loved this installment. I always knew that, if Mark dumped Rebecca, Bridget's self-esteem would rise. How else to account for her having the guts to actually say something in the presence of the Rebecca. Although I too wish she had slapped her!! ;-D Ah Mark! Loved how he took charge and told her off. What can I say about our wonderful boy! Knew the *problem* was only temporary. Although it was pretty funny when he said he couldn't be pinched and was own man. Yeah, sure, if you want to believe it. So Bridget feels safe and secure with Mark, and Mark doesn't feel like he always has to be proving his love to Bridget because she is so insecure and neurotic. What will they do? Enter Gary, with or without the cappucino. No!! The adventures of them living together at Mark's house!! Yes, that where she's going with this. (Bethan) Perhaps Rebecca will plan some dastardly revenge! Agree. Need either Fatal Attraction scene or catfight from Dynasty to make complete. Rebecca leaving Bridget's flat in tears wasn't enough. She deserves far worse.

Oh yes, meant to ask what news story in Britain triggered this column with its focus on racist language carryovers?

No news story that I'm aware of! I agree that it's time Mark invited Bridget over to his place. Bridget's tiny flat seems to be a cosy love nest (they don't seem to go out much except for disastrous weekends at Rebecca's). A move to Holland Park would be a real test of their relationship....but would BJ still be a singleton? Perhaps they could take a long holiday together (to the US?)

Re: Brigid's move to Mark's house.... Bethan....but would BJ still be a singleton? Right. What does a singleton become once she hooks up with a guy in a relationship? Let's see what term HF coins.

What does a singleton become once she hooks up with a guy in a relationship? Let's see what term HF coins. But I gather that in "the missing Independent year" they did actually hook up...and break up....and hook up...and break up.....so I don't think we should hold our breath!

You're right, Kate. Shortly after the book, HF said in an interview that BJ would probably never live "happily ever after" as she wasn't at her best in a relationship. But it's great to just enjoy the moment! Clearly an onside penalty thrust-out.

Does anyone have access to the columns for those *Wilderness* years. They would be in The Independent. Can't wait for her to write the sequel that would incorporate those columns. HF said in an interview that BJ would probably never live "happily ever after" as she wasn't at her best in a relationship. Don't people grow? I think Bridget showed much more self-confidence and maturity when she told Mark to have a good time watching the match with the boys. She's a person who's been conditioned to feel inadequate by Cosmo, television, movies, self-help books, etc. Mark's chucking of Rebecca was a major ego boost. Perhaps, it will stay with a while before she slides back into her neurotic self. ;-) Laura: Have you checked The Times?

I did check the Times. Why????

Can't wait for her to write the sequel that would incorporate those columns. Didn't HF tell someone when she was on tour that BJ falls for a handsome villain when on holiday in Banghok, gets arrested for drug smuggling and is rescued by MD. Sound as though they have a turbulent history! (Or did I dream this?) I would like to see Bridget meeting "Malcolm and Elaine" (or should it be "Elaine and Malcolm"?), MD's parents. Could be some comic potential there! Competition for Pam Jones?! (BTW why is Bridget's dad called Colin?)

Yes, that's right. I forgot about the drug-smuggling story.

Well, Bridge has already met Malcolm and Elaine:) at their Ruby Wedding anniversary. She gave Elaine the Bodyshop Terra Cotta essential oils burner, (which I have too, should check to see if it does indeed take in milk:))

(Bethan) (BTW why is Bridget's dad called Colin?) Oh no.......here we go again with John the Baptist!!

(Evelyn)Oh no.......here we go again with John the Baptist!! Too funny!! Because she couldn't call him Fitzwilliam Jones:)

She could, but Colin sounds better.

Okay a couple of things to note: Headline of Stinky fish smelling Boston; Boston Herald: FEVER PITCH alas, it is about Pedro Martinez, Bosox pitcher extraordinaire and over-zealous fans. Tho' always thought the field was called the green and not the pitch:) And thinking about what terminology HF could come up with in regards to MD and BJ living together why: Smug Singleton, of course. v.g. I thought:)

(Laura) in regards to MD and BJ living together why: Smug Singleton, of course. Yeah...I like that. Let's see what Helen thinks of it!!

Helen Fielding appeared on The Weekend Edition of All Thing's Considered on National Public Radio. You can hear the interview (but you must have a Real Audio Player) at: http://www.npr.org/plweb-cgi/fastweb?getdoc+npr+npr+31904+1+wAAA+Helen%26Fielding It's nearly 8 minutes long. She does not mention Colin Firth. It's more about how darned rich she's getting from BJD, now published in 22 countries. :-)

Forgot to say---scroll down to the bottom of the page and hit the hypertext link with her name.

Thanks for the link Meggin. At least we know she's still in LA and hopefully working on that screenplay!

At least we know she's still in LA and hopefully working on that screenplay! And also, according to the Times Diary, hanging out with Helena Bonham-Carter. The Times suggests that Helena may be first choice to play Bridget.

Allison, I saw the Times Diary item and I must sayt that my gut feeling now is that it will be Helena B-C. The Times (for those of yoy who didn't see it) said that HF was hanging out at a Health Farm in LA with HBC and Keneth Branagh and they seemed very friendly. One thing that struck me though, gloomily,........the Times called the film "the Hollywood version" of BJD. Hollywood is all about bankability. BJD is no longer a little book that was popular in the UK. It's big business. HB-C is bankable. KB seems very Hollywood now.....in a recent interview he said he didn't want to do any more theatre and he's playing the baddie in a huge special effects movie with Will Smith. So how about a power couple for BJ and MD?. Or Rupert Everett for MD?. Sometimes I get the odd twinge of doubt about the casting......the money men must have the last say. Just hope some of CF's current batch of movies start being released in the US, soon! I wonder if CF is in LA......his son must be on summer holiday from school now. Or are the school terms different in the US?

(Allison) The Times suggests that Helena may be first choice to play Bridget. Ick!

Or Rupert Everett for MD?. since RE came out, Hollywood has not cast him in a straight role (all power to the British film industry for managing to recognise that actors do act!). I think it very unlikely he'd be cast as MD in a Hollywood-produced BJ. Sad that Hollywood seems to have got its claws into this - I was hoping for something small budget and british, like Brassed Off or the Full Month. Oh well... And actually, I don't think HBC would be that bad. At least she's the right age!

Helena B-C is too skinny:) And too beautiful. I think Bridget should be rather plain looking. Now, I don't see how every person that HF says hello to is destined to be the next Bridget. HF has said she wants and "unknown" for the role. She may still get that. They need massive casting call, say women btw the ages of 32-38, and must be British!!!

Let's not let our imaginations run amok here re: HB-C as BJ. I would not find it unusual for HF to be hanging out with HB-C and KB as this is v. common for an ex-pat crowd. HB-C is so totally associated with costumes dramas, Merchant-Ivory productions here, but she's appeared on the late night talk shows and portrayed a v.different image. Some of her less refined roles (like Margaret's Museum) hardly anyone would have seen. Or Rupert Everett for MD LOL!!

I'm about to do some anti-Mark Darcy ranting, so forgive me. And please indulge me. What right does Mark have to worm his way back into Bridget's life!!! And why Bridget didn't put up more of a fight is beyond me? He dumps (chucks) her goes with Rebecca who tangles him in tissue of engagements all the while, Bridget should be inducted into sainthood for being a martyr!!!(I'm joking, of course:)) She never once cheated on MD!! She stayed faithful, while he was lollygagging in Scotland, Majorca or whereever Rebecca would take him, forcefully, of course(what the hell is up with that!). He is NOT his own man!! (Why did it take months and months for him to finally realize that all this was done without any reference to him!) How many times is MD going to indecisive and changeable? He wants to "live" with Bridget. But can he really "live" with her? This reconciliation is just too "pat"; too easy. Bridget fell into bed with him, I don't call that being a "strong" woman. Telling him to really, truly decide what he wants. (Yes, I "know" he wants Bridget, but he has to decide if it is longterm that he wants.) Okay, enough of my ranting. I wanted to say something that was cohesive and made sense.

Mobetta' HBC than GP for Bridget. And I agree with whoever said that authors have no say in casting. It's up to Directors and producers. the money men must have the last say. Unlike many European countries the US film industry is not government- subsidized. These producers must answer to the company shareholders....people like you 'me!! If the company continuously loses money on films, the CEO soon finds himself tanked.

Evelyn, you have nothing to say re: my rant???? I'm shocked:)

(Laura )Evelyn, you have nothing to say re: my rant???? I'm shocked:) Moi?? I'm leaving it to Renate. :-) In truth," Markee Baby" has lost ground with me. If he cheats on you now, Bridge, when love is in full bloom.... .....wait til the seven-year- itch hits.

If he cheats on you now, Bridge, when love is in full bloom.... .....wait til the seven-year- itch hits. ] Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!

HBC for BJ - on reflection I think that not only is this very likely, but also HBC isn't such a bad choice. She's the right age, she can do comedy (not just the period stuff) and as she is small, she could probably, with the right (or wrong) choice of clothes, be made to look dumpy. I could actually imagine HBC and CF playing opposite each other, and having the right sort of chemistry. But I have difficulty seeing this with Kate Winslett or GP or whoever.

as she is small, she could probably, with the right (or wrong) choice of clothes, be made to look dumpy. } Who said Bridget it dumpy!!! Part of the point of her obsession with her weight is the fact that she is not over weight! Fielding was touching on the problem most women have between their perceptions of their bodies, and the reality. Bridget thinks she is fat, but when she got down to her goal weight, everyone told her she looked sick. She is, after all, about 125-130 lbs. In order to be overweight, she would have to be around 5' tall, and since Fielding never says that she is short, I think we can assume that Bridget i a size 6 or 8 (US)--hardly dumpy!

Bridget...5' tall...130 lbs......? She's got a roll here n' there. Stay on the diet, Bridge.

Quite true, Ann. Nowhere and no place is it stated that Bridget is dumpy, frumpy or homely. She just can't be *drop dead gorgeous* or as thin as a supermodel. Her problem is self-image and what TV, movies and magazines (Cosmo) parade around as the *ideal*. HBC is not a bad choice from the standpoint of age and her beauty is v.unusual. (BTW, Bethan, she was extremely dumpy in Margaret's Museum).

"I may have briefly mentioned to Giles that there'd been a ground swell in the frilly blouse department" Love it! Great episode....HF is back on form. And I must admit I prefer the rather badtempered dominant Mark to the soppier Mark who picks flowers from public gardens!

I'm 5'2" tall, 125 lbs, and I wear a size 8. No one who wears a size 8 should be concidered dumpy! I've got news for you--I haven't got a 'roll in there'! According to the latest US government weight data, people should have a body-mass index of between 19 and 24 (less than that is too skinny!). My BMI is 23, so I'm right where I should be. (Weight in pounds) BMI = -------------------- X 709.95 (Height in inches)^2

Oh, oh, she pulled out the weight chart!!! Helen, what the hell are you doing to us!!!! hee hee.

Ann is showing us all up. She is obviously happy with herself. Good for you! :-) I'm 5'2"...weigh 117 Lbs.....take a size 4 on top....8 on bottom.. Have big thunder thighs.Cellulite all over the place. Hate Myself!!:-( I like this Chapter too. Have we ever met Giles before? And I don't like badtempered Mark.IMO, I think he has to get in touch with his feminine side!

What does "there has been a ground swell in the frilly blouse department" mean? Is he making reference to Rebecca maybe being a bit larger than Bridget? I would think that is a horrible remark? I still think MD needs a good swift kick in the A--!!!

You're kidding me with that chart, right Ann? You guys have been reading too much Bridget...she's making you obsessive, too.

We are obsessive!!! (I will readily admit to it, and only this:))

What does "there has been a ground swell in the frilly blouse department" mean? Bit of a mixed metaphor I think. "There's been a ground swell" is nautical, meaning a bit of turbulence. "Frilly blouse department" ia a very Hooray Henry (upper middle class public schoolboy type)reference to women. ie his love life has been rather unsettled. I'd like to see more of Giles. Sounds like the sort of friend Mark would have. I think the contrasting friends/lifestyles/attitudes of Bridget and Markee could be v. amusing! Looks like Rebecca is out of it, though. And I don't like badtempered Mark Oh, but I do! Shades of Fitzwilliam Darcy. Not so much bad tempered, more terse and slightly arrogant!

Thanks Bethan for the translation of the "frilly blouse dept." And now I also know the meaning of the reference to Mark as a bit of" Hooray". Was Henry a fictional character...or just alliteration ...like we refer to a Mr. Fixit as "Harry-the- Homeowner". Didn't you love the reference to Martha Stewart when she went to get the dishes for the carry-out !!

You're kidding me with that chart, right Ann? You guys have been reading too much Bridget...she's making you obsessive, too. } That is the correct chart, Nan. This happens to be one of my pet peeves--women who are incapable of seeing themselves as they really are, but as they are + 10-20 pounds. I believe in being a healthy weight, not a bean pole! Unfortunately that's not what most women aim at.

That is the correct chart, Nan. You misunderstand my meaning. I have no doubt of the chart's accuracy. My point was that comments made by a fictional character actually inspired you to go find that and post it. Don't you see the humor in that? ;-) women who are incapable of seeing themselves as they really are, but as they are + 10-20 pounds. I agree with you that, as a general rule, women are too concerned about being rail thin (brought on by having to stare at photos of Kate Moss, no doubt). Personally, I couldn't give a rat's ass. I am what I am--hasn't kept me from having the same experiences (both good and bad) as women who are 100 lbs. Then again, most of it is because of my attitude. This is, perhaps, why I find Bridget's insecurities so irritating. At first they were funny, because we all have them to some degree...but, really! Get ove it, already. Get some therapy :-)

Thought this column was a riot, and everyone said that a reconciled Bridget and Mark would be boring!! ;-) Should be like I Love Lucy if and when they ever move in together. Love Mark when he's *in control.* I don't think of his no-nonsense approach as bad tempered. (miming throat slitting, indeed!!) But isn't it all just a facade. Look at what he does at the end, he hands the phone over to Bridge. The best has to be the interchange when Bridget can't believe he didn't discuss his relationship problems with his friends. "How do you know what to do?" "I work it out for myself." Thanks, Bethan, for the explanation of the phrases; they had me in a quandary (sp?) as well. One thing nags at me is the "Bill" thing and its parallel with Bridget and Mark. A guy dating one friend and then calling another ostensibly for innocent reasons. Then Mark's advice to Shaz: Don't have anything to do with him. I'm getting the idea that Mark was the one who called Rebecca in the first place not the other way around. In last week's, Rebecca is referred to as "the arch-queen of Rules-style behavior." From what I know, she would certainly be manipulative, but she would NEVER CALL Mark. The Rules state a woman doesn't call a man; they don't even return their phone ca ls. They give all appearance of being the pursued. *Just another reason for you to despise Mark, Laura!!

Should be like I Love Lucy if and when they ever move in together. This could be a show (Bridget and Mark?) that could run and run. I thought more "Philadelphia Story"...Katherine Hepburn and Cary Grant) :-) (My kind of movie by the way, but they don't make them anymore!)

I thought more "Philadelphia Story"...Katherine Hepburn and Cary Grant) :-) Bridget a Tracy Lord type?? I think she's too strong a character, self-assured and all that even though she can't see True Love living right next door. Reason I used Lucy is (1) first thing popped into head and (2) all those shows where she messes up in the kitchen. Can see Lucy with foot in pot of mashed potatoes. ;-)

"....ground swell in the frilly blouse department".... I'm curious Bethan....(and pl. answer my question: Who is Hooray Harry?"..a few posts back) ....if a guy says the above quote re: a relationship "going south"...... what does a gal say......"ground swell in the tight breeches department"?

My point was that comments made by a fictional character actually inspired you to go find that and post it. } Actually, I opened Excel, used the spread sheet to make the calculations, copied the chart over into Paint Shop Pro, saved it as a .gif, uploaded it onto my account, and then posted it here! My point was not so much about what Bridget might or might not think about her own weight, but about how too many women are deeply screwed up about their body image. I wanted to prostelitize for being a healthy weight, istead of a bean pole. I'm just trying to counteract the messages many women absorb about their weight out there.

"Hooray Henry" is just an expression, used to describe upper middle class public schoolboy types who still perhaps use the slang they learned at school and haven't completely grown up. There's no such actual person , except that I suppose Henry is a typical name of that social class. Geoffrey Clifton was described in some reviews as a Hooray Henry type, which infact he wasn't, although he pretended he was! Male equivalent of "frilly blouse department"? Well, I guess "tight breeches" would be fine! :-)

(Ann) Actually, I opened Excel, used the spread sheet to make the calculations, copied the chart over into Paint Shop Pro, saved it as a .gif, uploaded it onto my account, and then posted it here! And she admits it! ;-D Mercy, woman, this is even worse than I'd imagined. You've fallen into the abyss ;-p (Ann) My point was not so much about what Bridget might or might not think about her own weight, but about how too many women are deeply screwed up about their body image. You're right...she could not be considered overweight by any stretch of the imagination. My original point was that body image is all about attitude. If you think you look bad, then you do. If you think you look good, then you do. It doesn't matter what the reality is because most people will unconsciously pick up on the fact that you are comfortable with yourself and forgive you your "faults". And if they don't then they probably aren't the kind of people you would want around, anyway.

(Evelyn)(and pl. answer my question: Who is Hooray Harry?". To expand on Bethan's description - The term Hooray Henry was coined by a journalist(?) called Peter York in Harpers and Queen originally, I think. A Hooray Henry is the male equivalent of a Sloane Ranger, a young upper/upper middle class woman whose London life revolves around Sloane Square(near the King's Road - remember that?). They would be preppies I think in US speak. There way of life was explained in a v funny book called the Sloane Ranger handbook.

Allison...... Sloane Ranger, a young upper/upper middle class woman I remember HF describing JE with the "Sloaney blond hair". I knew about Sloane Rangers...now we know Hooray Henry the male counterpart...thanks.!

There way of life I am not really illiterate!!

Hi y'all I've been lurking here a few weeks catching up on all the responses. I read 200 of them yesterday and while my head was spinning,I know much more about Bridget than before. Thanks to my internet friend, Evelyn,for recommending BJ to me and also directing me to these boards (also CF boards). I just want to say if CF is not cast in this part, I don't know if I can watch the movie as he is fixed in my mind as MD. He's so adorable in his diamond pattern sweater and ducky socks. CF is Darcy, MR. or Mark. HB-C is a pretty good choice for BJ, but is v. tiny and doesn't seem that she has 5 lbs to lose. Can we even come up with 5 actresses in their early 30's that have any weight to lose? I think they must all starve themselves. Yesterday, I was thinking maybe Jane Leeves from Fraiser would work. She's the right age, attractive but not beautiful, British, a recognizable name but not a superstar, and already plays a slightly Bridget-like character as Daphne.

Hi Sue, 200 posts in one day!! yowser!! Jane Leeves, hmmm... now there's a thought:)

I want you all to be real nice to Sue. She and I have been sluggin' it out with triple digit heat for over 20 days now. And we don't need any additional stress. Besides, I told her how charming you all are!!

Welcome, Sue :-) (Sue) I just want to say if CF is not cast in this part, I don't know if I can watch the movie... I like you already, honey! :-) (Evelyn) I want you all to be real nice to Sue. And just what are you implying, missy? ;-p

Jane Leeves, hmmm... now there's a thought:) } And a pretty darn good one too.

Hi ya Sue! Any friend of Evelyn's is most definitely welcome here. Just don't let her current views on MD affect you. ;-D I've been lurking here a few weeks catching up on all the responses. I read 200 of them yesterday Don't sound so bad when the alternative might be going outside!! ick Welcome aboard, Sue. Always like to hear new points of view.

Hey Karen, say hi to your Gary for me while your in his flat!

say hi to your Gary for me while your in his flat! hee hee hee!! Didn't she tell you he went back to his wife? Of course, I will have to deal with Trampetta when she shows up!

(Evelyn) I want you all to be real nice to Sue. (Nan) And just what are you implying, missy? ;-p Just a friendly remark.Not trying to be devious:-)

We are all very friendly, Sue. Just follow along and have a minor problem w/ Mark Darcy and you'll be my best friend;-)

Did anyone else notice that Bridget didn't smoke last week?? Think Hilary has gone after HF like she did all the Hollywood stars?

Did anyone else notice that Bridget didn't smoke last week?? Yes, or at least on the diary entry date. Has Bridge gone cold turkey? Think Hilary has gone after HF like she did all the Hollywood stars? I don't quite catch your drift. Need more. Isn't the Horse Whisperer opening in Britain? Will Bridget comment on the May-December thing again (like for As Good as it Gets)? With Redford, however, I had no problem. She could also comment on ATA, with *her* Mr. Darcy semistarring as an Iowa farmboy. Could be funny.

(Karen) Didn't she tell you he went back to his wife? Of course, I will have to deal with Trampetta when she shows up! I have no idea what this means, but it sounds really juicy! ;-) (Evelyn) I want you all to be real nice to Sue. (Nan) And just what are you implying, missy? ;-p (Evelyn) Just a friendly remark.Not trying to be devious:-) Of course not, honey! Just tuggin' your Murphy ;-p

Think Hilary has gone after HF like she did all the Hollywood stars? I don't quite catch your drift. Need more. Remember last summer Hilary Clinton took Julia Roberts on for smoking in "My Friends Wedding and enjoying it !! Oh, furgeddit!

Bridget will be back on the ciggies this week as sure as a sailor returns to the sea. The blissful period must end soon. Incidentally, Jane Leeves would make a great Bridget for all Sue's reasons, unless her Manchester accent is her own and unchangeable, in which case it will sound as wrong to a British audience as an American accent.

Thanks guys for the words of welcome and for not ridiculing my JR suggestion. It's just so hard to come up with the right casting. I hope they make casting announcements soon so that we can be put out of our misery. I don't think it will be an unknown which I think would really be best in this case. Hollywood is always more concerned about the $$$ than the artistic make-up of a movie. Just don't cast John Travolta as MD! I've only read BJD a few weeks ago,but am already addicted. I'm glad I missed the parts in which MD was being a jerk. I hope he's on the road to recovery. He'll prob. backslide sooner or later (he's a man afterall :) ) or else it will boring and then what would talk about.

Oh, he'll definitely backslide. He hasn't been properly humbled, yet!!! And a man who cheats once will cheat again. John Travolta!! Well that would be odd casting:)

Oh Lucy... Yes, Ricky. 'splain to me those police cars. Well...promise me you won't get mad. Just 'splain, Lucy. Well, ok, um, ya see it was like this... 'splain. It was Ethel, not me Ricky. It was Ethel. She did it!!

Hee hee, hee hee. Very funny!! However, this Bridget episode was not. The funniest thing was the phone ringing at 10.30pm; I'm asleep on the couch and answer the phone "Which One!!!" hee hee. Ann or Karen usually phone me w/ Bridget!!

So, how do you think poor Bridge is going to make out.? Will she get busted ? Do you think the leering Lizard Executive is an American:? "Nice goin' , babe" BTW. This really did happen. Story was in last week's London Times. A British Airways pilot detained the passengers on the tarmac for 3 hours...waiting for the smoking culprit to fess-up.Passengers were livid. Pilot got in trouble! Don't think they ever found the stealth smoker.

Oh, I suspect that's the last we hear about it. She's bound to get herself into more trouble on her miniholiday in Strasbourg. Perhaps, she will get arrested protesting the inhumane treatment of geese there (force fed) in order to satisfy the world's craving for foie gras. That is the place, isn't it?

Oh so it was topical then. Although that was one news item that didn't make any impression on me. BTW I'm beginning to see the Lucy/Ricky parallels! Why are they always either in Bridget's flat or on mini-holidays. Is Mark's place out of bounds? He's a non-smoker isn't he....maybehe's afraid that Bridge will set the place alight!

BTW I'm beginning to see the Lucy/Ricky parallels! Having grown up with Lucy and Ethel's exploits, everything is beginning to take on a Lucyesque feel. Perhaps, they could go stomp on some grapes next. Is Mark's place out of bounds?..maybe he's afraid that Bridge will set the place alight! LOL!! Didn't she start a small fire in Paris when they got back together? Mark's house is described as a "wedding cake" house. What is that? Do you think there's an image of one somewhere on the web?

Karen, I have a picture of a "Wedding Cake" style house for you when I come to Chicago. (Can't type all the red wine I'm drinking tonight:)) It has decorations on the side that resemble the frosting on the side of a wedding cake. Sort of loopy loop and roses or what kind of flower one likes. you will see on. In Massachusetts we have a TON of them!!!

After this experience maybe Bridget will give up cigerettes for good.

Oops! Can you tell that I am a non-smoker and also in serious need of a spell-checker since I cannot even spell cigarette properly.

She's a bum! She just took a couple of weeks off!!! I suppose she intentionally left us with Bridge and Mark being chased down by the cops--a cliffhanger of sorts.

Bad week to take off...Monica before the grand jury, DNA dress, etc. Could have been a riot. ;-D

(Ann) She just took a couple of weeks off!!! Who said " a couple"? I thought just one. (Karen) Bad week to take off...Monica before the grand jury , DNA dress, etc Unfortunately, this stuff will be around for more than a week. HF will have many opportunities to take some shots at it.

She took two weeks off, I think during her book tour. She told one audience that she didn't even begin to write the column until Friday, then spends one day on it, so why does she need so much time off!!!

To paint her toenails.

All right, if I were Bridget and Mark showed such trust and faith in me, I would have gotten out of the car and fumed for a while and let him know fully and loudly that I expected some respect and trust from him! He's known her for, what, 2 years now? Is she that untrustworthy? or is he that insensitive? or has she never stood up for herself in her life? It is getting harder and harder for me to be sympathetic to our Bridge!

I have come to the conclusion that MARK DARCY is a FUCKWIT!!!! And Bridget needs to move on without him. Bridget had been the epitome of the classic emotionally scarred girlfriend!! Mark takes advantage of her and its disgusting!!! Let's see how quickly Markee runs back to the Becks:) Fuckwit!!!!

I think Bridge is a fuckwit!

( Laura)...(.Ann)....I think Bridge is a fuckwit! And so do I!!!! Why, does this woman just sit around and wait for Mark's telephone call!! I 'd tell him to go and stuff his legal profession....and his detached house in Holland Park up his.... Bridget is a world- class- doormat.!!!

Bridget is a world- class- doormat.!!! } YES!!

What I'm hearing, then, is this: MD is somewhat insensitive/thinks Bridget probably smoked in the toilet/doesn't phone often enough. Therefore demands should be made, and/or he should be dumped and Bridget should move on. To what? Do we assume that Mr Even-more-right is just around the corner waiting to be discovered? Or is sisterhood enough and to hell with men? Hmmm .... I can't help thinking Bridget would be plunged into a bigger whirlpool of self-doubt if she took this advice.

MD might v. well be a fuckwit, but to give him the benefit of the doubt, he could be reacting to Bridget's general lack of self-confidence and self-esteem. She should stop comparing herself to media images and girls like Rebecca and tell herself that MD is lucky to have a girl like her. BJ should realize that she is pretty enough, thin enough, and so what if she smokes a few fags a day-if MD doesn't like it he can go bugger off. BJ is turning into a bit of a wimp and she should cut it out.

But, Sue, that is the Bridget character!! She is a real wimp, a doormat, whatever. She has no self-confidence or self-esteem. Given my *role* as the Darcy apologist, he does have some basis for believing Bridget capable of smoking in the lav. She has done lots of stupid, idiotic things. She is Lucy Ricardo, who was always getting into trouble. However, I don't like what is going on here. Bridget and Mark can still be together with funny columns. Helen Fielding does not have to split them up to make it interesting. The phone call one two weeks ago is a prime example of where she could take this. This airplane one and the followup were just plain stupid.

I completely agree with you on this Karen...the last two installments were not up to standard. I think HF feels obliged to work in topical references, to give the column some sort of social commentary slant. But she's at her best with MD and BJ together, but slightly at odds with each other. My mother (who absolutely loved the book) has lost patience with the column. She thinks that Bridget should move in with Mark ("why is she still so involved with her mother? Time she grew up")and HF should write about their new relationship as live-in lovers (how would they get on with each other's friends, work colleagues, share the bathroom, wash up etc (or does Mark have domestic help?) I think my mother's right! Lots of comic potential to be explored!

The two of us are on the same wavelength. There would be a lot of comic potential with the two of them living together as we saw with the telephone call column. MD was reacting to the endless calls and consultations that went on with Jude, Shaz and Bridge. Bethan, your mom is right! Tell her to submit a column to the Telegraph! ;-D

"Well, they do have newspapers in the Mediterranean," I whispered. "So what do you think about the Villa Lucia," he whispered back. "Mrs Darcy?" } Oh Helen, we do love you after all:) This was brilliant!!!! I mean keep them like this and we'll love ya forever;) Karen, are you smiling into your coffee and floating through the air???

A lack of fuckwittage in this episode!

HF is back on top form! "Oh hello Mrs Darcy, it's Yolande here from Something Special holidays" Loved it...laugh-aloud-funny, as they say! I even hooted at the Nigel bit. Stick to Bridge and Mark, Helen, backed up with Shazzie and co, Bridget's mum and Tom! :-)

Stick to Bridge and Mark, Helen, backed up with Shazzie and co, Bridget's mum and Tom! :-) } And Gary.

Uh oh, what about Gary??? Is he going to mysteriously reappear to fix the gaping whole in the wall? Will Mark ever ask Bridge to marry? Will Clinton strike again? Ah, we must wait for next week. Hee hee:)

I loved the Mrs. Darcy thing in this week's column. It's like being caught in a private fantasy. MD demostated why women love him so much (even the times when there is some fuckwittage going on). Quiz on current events was priceless. Would we all pass? :-)

, but sometimes I think I have got involved with a member of a brigade of lunatics." LOL....... "You just catching on, Markee? And dear ole Bridget is taking a tip from Rebecca ........don't let a relationship get stale, Bridge.......bring on the Villas....with a small double -bed!!

Haven't known quite what to say. Initially thought it was v.funny, then starting thinking that Helen was doing a v.cruel stereotyping thing with Bridget and that Mark was being v. cruel in ridiculing the way her mind works. If it were me and someone were quizzing me like that I'd strike back with the sort of stuff only guys *care* to remember, like who scored what and when with how much on the clock back in 1967. Arrrgh!! Another thing. What kind of office does she have Mark working in. Isn't he supposed to be some bigtime barrister. His office sounds more like a Dilbertville or cubicle farm. Isn't Nigel a colleague? What high-priced lawyer is concerned with people thinking he's at his desk. I doubt a Mark would even be cognizant of two women talking about anything in the outer office area. Or just maybe I'm in a bad mood???? Or maybe the use of *Mrs. Darcy* hit me right in the forehead because earlier that day I had used something similar in something I was writing, but my inspiration was an old Doris Day-Rock Hudson movie!

Having the experience of working at a big time law firm, I can attest that keeping a jacket on a chair is common practice. You always want others to think you are always working, even if you are not. If you're not around, tongues will wag. While it is unlikely that MD would get too interested in the office gossip, trust me, even the big partners want to hear the gossip when it's good. Life is not that different at a law firm than at other companies. I would be interested to hear the thoughts of any o her attorneys or law firm employees on whether MD's law office is typical. Also, when Bridget used "Mrs. Darcy" I thought - I may have wanted to do that on occasion, but never would have the guts for fear of being caught. My worst fear happened to Bridget! But, I've got to hand it to her - a real fast come back.

Thanks, Kathryn. Your experiences reminded me that HF said she gets a lot of real life ideas from friends, who pass on funny stories that have occurred to them. So likely, someone told her about a guy who had two jackets made for each suit in order to keep one on the back of his chair.

Really think we have found outselves in LA and are not going to drink or smoke but be relaxed modern women of substance. Finally, Lucy and Ethel go to Hollywood. Some of the all-time best Lucys. Whose cement hand and footprints will they try to steal from Mann's? Will they go cruising looking for stars? Loved the description of "thin orange young people lounging all over a giant Bacchanalian mattress talking on mobile phones." LOL!! And the bit about smoking! Banish thee to a leper colony. What in God's name are you doing?" But Markee, bwaaa, I was finding inner peace! ;-) About time Helen brought Bridge over here.

OOH, but a Baccanalian orgy with Mark sounds soooooo delicious or is that Colin Firth:) Lucy and Ethel go to Hollywood, good one, Karen:)

Forgive me for barging on in here but I have been a faithful reader for some time now, thanks to Karen, so I feel perfectly justified in whining "What is Helen doing to Mark Darcy?" He's so predictable, he's become a cartoon. Who couldn't guess Mark would show up all cold and stuffy? "What in God's name are you doing?" he said coldly. "I thought this was a respectable bar, and I come here to find you unprotestingly participating in a sordid Bacchanalian orgy." Where's the understated, sexy barrister who only needed to arch an eyebrow or make a snotty, but witty remark? This entry was hilarious until the end. I hope this isn't the means to the end for BJ and Mark.

You know I was just thinking this over. In June when HF was here, I had asked her if she would be bringing BJ to the States, she said no. But BJ is here, strange......

Ricky Ricardo stayed with Lucy. However, we do know what happened to Desi and Lucy:)

(Heide) Forgive me for barging on in here How many times have you been invited? ;-) Glad you finally showed up. "What is Helen doing to Mark Darcy?" He's so predictable, he's become a cartoon. Absolutely agree. Didn't I say something about Dilbert last week when I was ranting and raving and generally out of my mind???? About the only thing she appears to be changing is the animal noise Mark makes!! This week he barked. Most time he growls (although I do *like* the growl). He has probably roared as well. Where's the understated, sexy barrister who only needed to arch an eyebrow or make a snotty, but witty remark? Ooof! Front door bell. Fingers crossed. Is Mark!! Hurrah!

(Heide) "What is Helen doing to Mark Darcy?" He's so predictable, he's become a cartoon. She's making him the British stereotype male ( according to American perception). But who is the little oriental man? I thought Mark was working on some hispanic case. The description of the bar is too funny....think Helen was a participant in a similiar event?

If I were Bridge I would have gone over the edge long ago about Mark's continuing condesension. He doesn't come close to seeing her as an equal, but lords himself over her. I hate the fact that she lets him do it.

(Evelyn) The description of the bar is too funny....think Helen was a participant in a similiar event? I was thinking the same thing too. I wonder if HF has had to endure the Hollywood social whirl while she's been in LA? That should give her enough material for a lot of columns! And I agree with the comments many of you have made. HF hasn't made our Mark too appealing in the boyfriend department, has she? Unless you go for the judgmental, parental type I guess.

I think you're all being rather hard on Mark! He's always been slightly stuffy, part of his charm, (Mark "Perfectpants" Darcy, as Bridget called him!),a non-smoking, non-drinking workaholic! Takes his work v. seriously. Doen't like being embarassed in public or with colleagues (in private may be okay!) A cold comment is quite consistent with all this.......or do you think he should fling off his jacket and join the snogging session on the mattress? :-)

(Evelyn) But who is the little oriental man? We'll probably have to wait for next week's column to find. (Bethan) Mark "Perfectpants" Darcy...a cold comment is quite consistent with all this True, true, true. But totally unnecessary in loose L.A. Get down on that mattress, Mark!! ;-)

Americans do perceive Britons to be stiff; however, I honestly believe that men aren't like that anymore. Let say Mark is to be around 35, so why he is so stiff is beyond me. Here's hoping that Bridget can loosen him up. I wonder what a wild Mark Darcy would be like....hmmmmm....

(Laura( Americans do perceive Britons to be stiff; however, I honestly believe that men aren't like that anymore. (Jana) HF hasn't made our Mark too appealing in the boyfriend department, has she. (Bethan) I think you're all being rather hard on Mark! He's always been slightly stuffy, part of his charm I wonder if that is how British women prefer their boyfriends to act.....hmmmmm? How's that for a Sunday Bombshell!! :-)

yeah, I guess you're right, Evelyn. I do like my men to be stiff too:)

(Laura) I do like my men to be stiff too:) Bad girl!! I'm going to call your mother and tell on you...or I'll just have R do it. ;-D

(Laura) yeah, I guess you're right, Evelyn. I do like my men to be stiff too:) Did Ken Starr make you say that???

Did Ken Starr make you say that??? Well it depends in what context you take the meaning stiff;-) And because I neglected to before: WELCOME HEIDE TO BRIDGET JONES'S DIARY PAGE!!!!

Okay, today's was all right. But Bridget weighing 110lbs is ridiculous:) hee hee. At least she knew he was wrong:) Counselling Recommended. It took an American police officer to tell her that???? hee hee.

It was cute. Bridge and Shaz aka Thelma and Louise. Hmmm Probably looking for Brad Pitt! Watch out for dem truck stops. What on earth do they want to go driving in the desert now? Isn't it like 125 degrees now?? This is going to be tough: Trouble magnet or Love pariah??? Only those two could see a compliment (110 lbs) scrawled on a speeding ticket.

Wasn't "counselling recommended" just the cop's way of setting up a date? Maybe I read this wrong...

I think the cop thought she was crazy! -- He must have been part-phychic. I liked the fact that Helen softened Mark's reaction from the end of last week's, and made him more understanding. And she also seemed to have made Bridge a little stronger this week--which I am happy about. She was really sinking into a piece or worthless jello there for a while.

Yeah, a little bit stronger, Ann. She could have followed Shazzer's advice, bought a gun and driven off from the cop. But she's still eager to take everybody's advice under consideration. Okay, that's Bridget. I liked this weeks. At least we didn't have to watch Mark be a prig. I want him stuffy and I want him a little condescending but I don't want him to be a pompous ass. Actually, what I really want of him is for him to growl more. More sexy Darcy.

Actually, what I really want of him is for him to growl more. More sexy Darcy. ] Hmmm, Heide, I can just imagine what you would like MD to growl to you too:) Margaret, a date??? Hmmm.. I think if that is what he wanted she should go for it!!! Let MD know that other men find BJ attractive also. With those bluish-grey(gray?) eyes;)

(Laura) Hmmm, Heide, I can just imagine what you would like MD to growl to you too:) I'd put money on: "Here?" "Yes, here." Two of my all-time fav lines. ;-D (Heide) She could have followed Shazzer's advice, bought a gun and driven off from the cop." How would she explain driving Mark's car off the cliff to Mark? He being a lawyer, you know. :)

WHY IS BRIDGET IN LA? I mean the people there are soooo plastic (Not you, Jen:))I don't see the plot in this at all.

(Karen) I'd put money on: "Here?" "Yes, here." Two of my all-time fav lines. ;-D Took the words right out of my mouth. And of course, "You have to marry me." Actually, I kind of like Margaret's take on the counseling. Would that be plot enough to satisfy you, Laura? (Laura) WHY IS BRIDGET IN LA? I mean the people there are soooo plastic Ouch, I almost winced but I know you'd never be guilty of such a gross generalization, my dear. ;-)

(Laura) Why is Bridget in LA? Reason #1: Why not? Bridget wants to go on miniholidays with Mark. Mark cancels out on Corfu villa. OK, LA is not Corfu but he is risking his professional career inviting her to accompany him and to bring one of her partners in crime. Reason #2: Helen Fielding's been in LA. It's a goldmine, a veritable treasure trove of people, places, things to amuse her readership. Reason #3: (I know this is before your time, Laura, but...) HF's in LA and is no different than Charlie McCarthy and Edgar Bergen, Shari Lewis (RIP) and Lambchop, Paul Whosits and Jerry Mahoney. Get the idea!! :) I mean the people there are soooo plastic Are you implying Bridget has the depth of character of a Mother Teresa? ;-D Didn't the two of them just admit they had come into their own element??

Sorry, just depressed for some strange reason today. Bridget is British and I like her in London, not LA. It will make her too American;(

My take on the "Counseling" recommendation is the near-universal perception that everyone in California has a therapist. HF's audience would likely share that perception. (Of course, I'm not saying that its true or not true!!) ;-D Where I live they just want you to pay the lousy fine. Counseling is not an option for a speeding ticket, although I beat two in court!

This is one funny installment. Again I wonder if this happened to HF or to a friend. Discriptions are too accurate...esp. the policeman. Love the confused look on his face when she went into the stones bit re: her weight.....imagine how he would have reacted if she said she needed a fag "right now".....!!

(Karen) Reason #2: Helen Fielding's been in LA. It's a goldmine, a veritable treasure trove of people, places, things to amuse her readership. This was my take on it as well. I thought the LA junket was sort of an inside joke to her readers who know she's been here doing the Hollywood shuffle. I am enjoying the LA storyline quite a bit, but maybe I'm biased being born and raised in LA. And BTW, I don't have any plastic parts that I'm aware of :-)

(Evelyn) .imagine how he would have reacted if she said she needed a fag "right now".....!! Oh yes!!! LOL!! And HF is very aware of how Americans would react. She mentioned it at her booksigning. Yes, time to bring on the fags and why not see what kind of reaction she'd get to "pissed." Such an uncouth word to us. ;-D (Jana) And BTW, I don't have any plastic parts that I'm aware of :) So glad to hear that. And you say you were born and raised there??? Ah, so plastic is embedded for non-natives, then???? :) Just kidding. Another perception.

why not see what kind of reaction she'd get to "pissed." Such an uncouth word to us. ;-D New one on me too. Karen, you are a walking dictionary. Pray tell...what means "pissed " in merry ole' England. (Jana) And BTW, I don't have any plastic parts that I'm aware of :) Droolers are excepted, Jana. You 'n Winter :-)

One use of pissed (aside from the various ways we use is) is to be drunk. Too bad Bridget didn't plead the "Kase for Kilometric Konfusion" to his officership. He might have bought it. Would've been going near real speed limit then. Stones, pounds, kilometres, miles, whatever. ;-D

Too bad Bridget didn't plead the "Kase for Kilometric Konfusion" to his officership. He might have bought it. } Yes after all 100 KPH is 60 MPH, so Bridget could easily have claimed to have mixed the two up.

(Jana)This was my take on it as well. I thought the LA junket was sort of an inside joke to her readers who know she's been here doing the Hollywood shuffle. I am enjoying the LA storyline quite a bit, but maybe I'm biased being born and raised in LA. See, this is where I'm going to have to disagree. As much as I like this town (not a native) I don't want to see Bridget stuck here for the next few weeks. I really miss seeing Bridge in action in familiar surroundings--- f***ing things up with people and settings she's accustomed to. Here, it's like "Lucy goes to Hollywood" (which were the episodes I didn't think were as funny as when she was her bumbling-self back home).

Though "pissed" and "having a fag" are understandably vulgar-sounding in the US, this works the other way round sometimes: Possibly Bridget would be as shocked as I was a few years ago in NY to hear several people described as "anal" - or maybe I'm just too stuffy/pompous. Also Bridget would never have thought of the clever MPH/KPH thing, as we still use those old miles in Britain.

(MarkG) Possibly Bridget would be as shocked as I was a few years ago in NY to hear several people described as "anal" Have you never heard of anal-retentive, a psychological condition? I merely thought it would be funny for HF to play up the (s)language differences for a couple of columns. BTW, "pissed" is crude here as well, especially when referring to bathroom functions. :) MPH/KPH thing, as we still use those old miles in Britain. On your speedometers? On the road signs? Hmmm, I haven't driven in your country for over quite some time, but things change. Well, at least I didn't refer to your driving on the "wrong side of the road" (as HF did for ours). I've always tactfully referred to this aberration as the "other side of the road." :)

I still think Helen Fielding will Americanize Bridget. I wish she would develop some sort of plot line. Even in sitcoms, we have some semblance of a plot. And they at least answer questions we might have. Like what about the damn gaping hole that is a wonderful conversation piece, but has since disappeared. Much like the originator of the gaping hole. What happened to Simon that Shaz was shagging? or Tom? Where has he been? and I hate this LA mini break. How much time does Bridget get off from work? not very realistic, imvho, of course! She's all over the place and it's driving me absolutely bananas!! I'm a little disconcerted with what's been going on with everything. Sorry if I'm sounding a little blase. It's how I feel:(

Where has Tom been? I agree with you, Laura. I wish sometimes that the "story line" flowed rather than jumped. For instance, I would have liked to have heard some more about Mark's bossy friend Giles whose wife had left him. Or what else happened to Bridget and Mark on their minibreak in Strassbourg (?), apart from being "chased" by a police car. And, yes, there's the hole. And did Rebecca just fade away. Sometimes I would prefer that HF wasn't writing in weekly column format. I'm looking forward to The Diary 2!! Mark, I'm all in favour of the occasional show of stuffiness! I'm in the minority here, but I find MD rather endearing when he's being pompous! :-) (Strange looking word, "pompous"....what's its origin?)

Thought this was a riot!! I don't care what some of you think, the fish out of water (i.e., Bridget in LA) is a tried and true comedic genre. Traffic School as an encounter group!! Too funny (although I did see it coming)! "My name is Bridget and I am a traffic violator because I am a trouble magnet!" Say it, Bridge and you'll be cured. If not, put a couple of crystals under your pillow, wear a few magnets and start chanting. ;-D Loved the "whatevers" she came up with for Mom. "Madly over-confident nightmare" "Lump-free grasvy obsessive adultress" "Girl-child torturer" Musn't forget the *growl* Yes!!

Yes, he is growling again. "Com'ere". Ummmmmm. This was terrific starting with Mom's advice to Monica that she should be "riding high on her triumph" and it just got better and better. Kudos to those of you who guessed the counseling/encounter session. Priceless. Bridget really is a trouble magnet though, isn't she. How else to explain Alexander?

Musn't forget the *growl* Yes!! "Com'ere". Ummmmmm. Let's hear it for that growl...... Can just hear CF saying that as Mark!! And that would be a good opening audio for the new website......

"Com'ere". Ummmmmm. (Evelyn) Can just hear CF saying that as Mark!! And that would be a good opening audio for the new website...... What an idea!! Now, I know you want him saying something from Rupert Brooke, Bethan, but this does sounds soooooo delicious and, since the site sprung from the loins of Drool, it shouldn't be toooooo hoity-toity. :) Were Evelyn, Heide and I the only ones to have read the column this week? Yeah, I know there was competition on the lurid and licentious front, but really that was soooo boring and repititious. ;-D

Nope, I read it as well! Is Mark becoming a "new man"......cooking meals for Bridget, calling her "sweetheart" and giving (sorry, not giving) good-night kisses.

I can't see Mark changing into a "new man" for any length of time, but it was a nice change to see him laugh at Bridget's antics. She truly is a trouble magnet just the same way some people are naturally clumsy. Evelyn- I hope this will do. I'm waiting for BJ to get back to her home turf. Hopefully,then I will have more to contribute

a nice change to see him laugh at Bridget's antics. She truly is a trouble magnet just the same way some people are naturally clumsy. I think Life with Bridget would be a lot of fun....unpredictable,yes..but never boring. Doesn't that make a better relationship?

(Sue) but it was a nice change to see him laugh at Bridget's antics. He's been amused at her antics since the beginning. Even in the book. At that cocktail party he attends with the other ice queen (whatshername? Natasha??). I suppose it could just be a matter of how much work pressure he's under. As Bethan has mentioned before, Mark is serious and a workaholic. But I do love when he's not so serious and *growls* ;-)

Hi all, remember me? Well, personally, I didn't really care for this epi at all. Of course Bridget would start showing how truthful she could be to a SEX ADDICT; Come to think of it. Maybe she should send Alexander over my way:) Have we ever heard Mark or Bridget say I love you; I wish they would open up more to each other. It's that damn communication thing.

( Ahuntie Laura) Mark or Bridget say I love you; I wish they would open up more to each other. It's that damn communication thing Or that "commitment-phobic" thing.....

Remember the book, Laura! Page 306 "..and he (Mark) told me all this stuff how he loved me: the sort of stuff, to be honest, Daniel was always coming out with." Mark does try! But Bridget doesn't always seem to be listening properly. :-)

( Bethan) Laura! Page 306 "..and he (Mark) told me all this stuff how he loved me: Actions speak louder than words, folks.

Bullcrap!!! Sorry, guys. But the book was YEARS ago!!! This is now and they haven't said I love you EVER!!! I'm sorry just disillusioned lately. End of summer depression and lack of a certain domestic felicity that both M&B seem to be sharing lately:( as wellas C&L.

Actions speak louder than words, folks. And sex is just sex.

And sex is just sex. } Tell that to Clinton.

Hello my name is Laura and I am a ________aholic. I am not a trouble magnet nor am I a cheating wife. But I do covet my girlfriend's husbands, mother's sons and girlfriend's boyfriends. I understand where Mark is coming from it is human nature. (Get this, I am actually defending the dog!) Like I said earlier, sex is just sex. Making love is something entirely different.

Thought this was hysterical...except for the very ending...kinda flat. But anyway, back to the good stuff: "You stretch the rubber back and grip it nice and hard. That's the way! Then squeeze and stroke, squeeze and stroke, and off it comes in your hand! Super! Ouch, mind the overspray!" "...But they're just like little animals. Our job is to train them up so they can perform some sort of useful role in society" ROTFLMAO!!!! Oh, Pam dear, you are a riot. Thought Mark's answers to Bridget's ill-advised questions were great. Shows he's not such a humorless character (e.g., the comment about no one else would imagine sleeping with Nigel or Giles).

Must have forgotten something....:(

Out I say!! Now!!

I give up

Nice one! But what sort of relationship do Bridge and Markee have? He stayed in her flat (when it had the hole in the wall), they're always taking mini-breaks together, but now it seems it's Home alone at the end of a telephone...again. They're like yo-yo's. When is Bridge going to get an overnight(or longer) invite to Mark's mansion in Holland Park?

Everyone should be happy now that they're back home. This was another good one. Okay, is there really a book called "What Men Want?". Remind me not to read it thought I'll probably agree with everything they say. Love the idea of Mark imagining sex with Shazzer: "Do you want to have sex with Sharon, and Jude?" "Well," he said, "obviously I'd be delighted to oblige. Do you think he was getting excited about a possible foursome? And I don't mean golf. And dear Pam, squeeze and stroke, squeeze and stroke. This woman keeps getting all the best lines. I agree with Bethan about the separate abodes. How long do they have to date? (Laura) But I do covet my girlfriend's husbands, mother's sons and girlfriend's boyfriends But they at least have to be cute or something. And I draw the line at my mother's sons. ;-)

And I draw the line at my mother's sons. ;-) I should have said other mother's sons:) I don't think I'd like shagging my brother either:)

"Do you want to have sex with Sharon, and Jude?" "Well," he said, "obviously I'd be delighted to oblige. I realise women have their needs. Did you mean both at the same time?" This part slayed me. I like to see Mark getting the funny lines on occasion.

I think Mark and Pam had the funniest lines in this episode. Then squeeze and stroke, squeeze and stroke, and off it comes in your hand! An all time classic..... Helen Fielding is getting salty.... Do not ask your boyfriend if all this is true or he will just lie through his teeth." Husbands too. Save your breath. Oh God! Maybe Mark was lying and the truth is actually worse than he said. Or maybe he is telling the truth. But that, then, must surely call the whole premise of the book into doubt? Do not know what to think or do now. Agree with everyone who said the ending was flat. My theory is that Helen F. didn't know what to do either and the deadline was looming.....

On vacation AGAIN??????

In my next life, I want to be a syndicated newspaper columnist.

In my next life, I want to be a syndicated newspaper columnist. } LOL Cuz! The good life, indeed.

Very possibly she's under pressure to finalise the screenplay. I have a hunch that the movie could be very imminent. And don't forget the book sequel.

In my next life, I want to be a syndicated newspaper columnist Here, here I have a hunch that the movie could be very imminent. And don't forget the book sequel I bet she knocks these columns off in a half-day....she says she does them on Friday.

Ran across another Time magazine dig at Bridget. Was in the "Technology" section.Tom Clancy's new book is more than just another tale of antiterrorism. Rainbow Six is a new brand. Clancy's idea for the book grew out of a PC game out of the same name (due out Aug. 27) from Red Storm Entertainment--a company Clancy founded two years ago. Game players will face the same sort of predicaments that befall John Clark, the novel's hero. Next we'd like to see the game that inspired Bridg t Jones's Diary. Do you think it is corporate policy for all contributors to hate BJD? ;-)

Yessss! "So much easier if you lived here!" Hurrah..Bridge!! :-))) Just in time...Markee...my hotel next week is in Kensington..only down-the- road- a- piece from Holland Park and I was goin' to go over and give you a piece of my mind!!

You go girl!!!! Hee hee. BUT wait, doesn't the sitcom end when they move in or get married? I see that there is not silver lining in the near future for these folks. ALSO, What the hell kind of job does Mark do? Why would a human right lawyer really give two beans about the stability of the yen? Why would a human rights lawyer care if the NYSE Market crashed? Helen, is Mark SUPERMAN and can and will do everything? Will he protect President Clinton next because his human rights are being exploited. Give the guy ONE job and ONE job and one job only. (Coming from somebody who works in the markets:) Market are not crashing; it is a long overdue correction!

Hi, my name is Adi and I'm from Israel. Some of you may remember me from the early days of the RoP. I want to thank you for introducing Bridget to me. I first "bumped" into her here. Because you were all very excited about the diary, I got curious, searched and read all the installments in the Telegraph, which led me of course to order the book. It's such fun to read a great story and know it's not going to end in the end of the book. Every Saturday when I wake up I know there is something nice waiting for me in my computer, and it really makes my weekend. The only thing I'm sorry about is that the diary isn't published in Israel, so no one knows about it. There was an interview with Helen Fielding in one of the newspapers - but that's it. I tried to make my friends read the book, but they don't seem to be interested. Well, I'll just keep trying. BTW, when I ordered the book from "Bookpages" I noticed that they have another title by HF: "Bridget Jones: I Will Survive". It�s supposed to be published in October 98. Do you think it�s the new book HF is currently writing?

Hmmm.. Very interesting news Adi, thanks a bunch!!! Will check it out ASAP!!!

Bridget Jones: I Will Survive by Fielding, Helen Price: �6.99 Bookpoints: 35 Availability: This book will be sourced from the publisher, so may take a little longer to arrive. Format: Paperback No. of Pages: 320 Publisher: Picador Date Published: Oct 1998 Category: Fiction, General

Bridget should set her sights higher than moving in with Mark. I say go for an engagement. That way there will be endless possibilites for funny columns. Bridget could get herself in some hilarious situations since planning a wedding is rather stressful. HF could solicit funny engagement stories from her friends and incorporate them into the column. If B & D lived together now it would prob. kill the romance entirely. I think they are already on shaky ground. They seem more married than most married coupl s. Where is the romance in their relationship? Evelyn, You might want to drop by and visit Mark anyway because after all he does look a lot like CF. Tell him to buy his poor girlfriend flowers once in awhile.

Oh it looks as though it will only be published in the UK for now. Evelyn look sharp in bookstores you may have to purchase a bunch of copies!!!!

After a few minutes of calm meditation phone itself responded to meditative vibes and rang bearing forth Mark. Hmmm. Knew I was doing something wrong. ;-) Yessss! "So much easier if you lived here!" Watch, Mark's overtired and doesn't know what he's saying. (Laura) BUT wait, doesn't the sitcom end when they move in or get married? Mad About You.... HF doesn't have to fall into the boring syndrome. There could be lots of interesting (funny) stuff happening and WHO said anything about getting married??? What the hell kind of job does Mark do? Why would a human right lawyer really give two beans about the stability of the yen? Well, we've already determined how unlikely it would be that he could practice law in Japan and the US...maybe he's just concerned about his personal investments as many of us watch our paper profits swirling down the drain. :) (Adi) Every Saturday when I wake up I know there is something nice waiting for me in my computer, and it really makes my weekend. Welcome Adi. Unfortunately, the way the columns were going this spring-summer (with the Rebecca thing) they also ruined a number of my weekends. ;-) I tried to make my friends read the book, but they don't seem to be interested. Well, I'll just keep trying. I've experienced the same thing with my sisters, college-age niece and several friends. I think you have to start with a P&P base to truly get into it and be hooked by the characters and their exploits. Do you think it�s the new book HF is currently writing? Thanks for the information about the other book. Haven't heard anything about it and it hasn't been mentioned anywhere. Surprised that the Telegraph hasn't added anything to the little blurb at the bottom of the column. Strange that it's being released in Paperback. I wouldn't expect that for her sequel. Bethan, time to get on the phone again!! Anything in the Times Book section?

I check the Times Book section faithfully on Sat, Sun, and Thursday's nothing!!! Hey I'm glad it's in PB it's cheaper!!!! $11.53USD:)

(Karen)HF doesn't have to fall into the boring syndrome. There could be lots of interesting (funny) stuff happening and WHO said anything about getting married??? I also mentioned moving in with each other!

Am assured, mature and accomplished woman. I am able to control my emotions, my impulses and my thoughts. Am assured, mature and accomplished woman. I am able to control my emotions, my impulses and my thoughts. Am assured, mature and accomplished woman. I am able to control my emotions, my impulses and my thoughts. Am assured, mature and accomplished woman. I am able to control my emotions, my impulses and my thoughts.

uhoh!! Karen, have I reduced you to chanting this mantra:) hee hee.

(Laura) Evelyn look sharp in bookstores you may have to purchase a bunch of copies!!!! I'll be there for most of October. Going to Waterstone's on Kensington High Street next Monday to pick up my two copies of A Month in the Country. (They had two on the shelves)Will inquire about Bridget. Welcome Adi...you sure made a splash with the latest Bridge news.Thanks. (Sue)Evelyn, You might want to drop by and visit Mark anyway...... Tell him to buy his poor girlfriend flowers once in awhile. Yeah, instead of stealing them from the "common -ground " park on the way to see her.

Very interesting! Is this the sequel? I read that HF is appearing as a guest at the Cheltenham Literary Festival mid-October (I think). It's the UK's premier literary festival and would be a good launch pad for a new book. Why paperback though? Although to be honest it's the paperbacks that sell and if they want to sell another million it might be a good sales ploy to jump straight in with the p/b version. Oh well, sounds promising (who said that?) Perhaps (true to form!)I should ring Picador! I agree with Laura about Mark's job! So very versatile! Although perhaps, as Karen suggests, he's worried about his investments. (Aren't we all :-) )Perhaps he'll lose all his money, sell his big white house and move in with Bridget and the hole in the wall!

Yeah, but, he still has work to do and doodling with his investments should NOT be permitted on work time:) They guy is just a superman! :) NOT!!!

(Bethan) Although to be honest it's the paperbacks that sell and if they want to sell another million it might be a good sales ploy to jump straight in with the p/b version. Didn't do that in the U.S. though. BJD was put out in HB and made the bestsellers' list nonetheless. These days there's not that big a difference in price between HB and quality (trade) PBs, especially at the discount chains where bestsellers are always 30% percent or better. Perhaps he'll lose all his money, sell his big white house and move in with Bridget and the hole in the wall! Then I guess we'll see if the Lizzy Bennet comment at the Meryton Assembly is true or not regarding rich men. ;-) (Laura) Yeah, but, he still has work to do and doodling with his investments should NOT be permitted on work time:) You wanna tell us what other golden rules you follow whilst at work? ;-) Evelyn, You might want to drop by and visit Mark anyway...... Oh yes, this reminds me. I still don't know what a wedding cake house looks like. Take a picture and send it to me, puh-leez.

Laura) Yeah, but, he still has work to do and doodling with his investments should NOT be permitted on work time:) You wanna tell us what other golden rules you follow whilst at work? ;-) TOUCHE!!!

I rang Pan Books (Picador is one of their imprints). "Bridget Jones: I will survive" will be published in April 1999. Sorry! I thought that October was unlikely in that there's not been any "buzz" or build-up. Oh well, we've still got the weekly installments to look forward to!

Thanks Bethan, I was getting all excited. Could you also find out if Nick Hornby has another book out. I was at a lunch meeting with a magazine advertising sales person, and we started talking Britlit and I mentioned NH and she said he had a new book out called "Steel..." something or other. Golancz is his British publisher. Any and all info is very welcome!

For desperate addicts like us, the UK shops do now have: "The Bridget Jones' Diary 1999 Diary". Each week begins with a Bridget thought, lifted from the book or the columns, and the days of the year have little handwritten notes from Bridget, example: Friday March 23 Spring Breaks 99 Exhibition, Horticultural Halls, Westminster Hurrah, whole exhibition on mini-breaks! Yesss! Saturday March 24 FA Cup, 4th Round Date? Forget it! You get the picture. BTW, Evelyn, most hotels in South Kensington would be closer to Waterstone's in Old Brompton Road, which has plenty of copies of "About A Boy". I have not seen a new Nick Hornby book yet.

Whoops! I now see that Evelyn is in fact purchasing "A Month in the Country". I must have got confused with the other Hornby stuff.

A good one. Yea!!! Great ending. LOL.

(MarkG) "The Bridget Jones' Diary 1999 Diary". Each week begins with a Bridget thought, lifted from the book or the columns, and the days of the year have little handwritten notes from Bridget Mark, meant to ask, did you see on what day the "alien shag-beasts" will descent on earth?

There does seem to be a new BJ book out...priced �10.99 and published by the BBC (it's new in the Times Bestsellers list). I phoned the local Waterstones and they weren't sure what it was...possibly a tie-in with a Bridget Jones evening on BBC2 this month. But it's not the new Helen Fielding.."BJ:I will survive". This is listed against October, but the sales assistant (v. helpful) I spoke to said that publication had been put back until next year. She said that there had been "difficulties" and that "the lot had had to be altered". Wot plot?!!

Oops!! For "lot" read "plot"!

Oh my God! I had forgotten Bridget actually had a job. And of course she wants to direct! Singers want to act, models want to act, but actors want to direct. As do "feature" reporters, I suppose. I'd love to have that 1999 diary.

(Heide) Oh my God! I had forgotten Bridget actually had a job. So didn't Helen Fielding:) He splashed out on a dress; that is so, like, five minutes ago! hee hee. Too Funny!!! and So true!!! I think we should be paying attention to what is going on in Kosovo, the Prez thing is just a glorified Witch hunt!!! (Spoken from someone in Boston!)

Well, it was sort of fun to see Bridget back at work, but what's up with her Dad and that speech impediment? It seems sort of odd to throw his probibombom out there and just leave us hanging....

I was wondering about that speech thing too! Is that the new hip talk (that has to date me) that spreading like wildbittybombomtabombomfire throughout London? Hope not. Also, was there a similar event on British TV or do you think this is a parody of our ancient astronaut (John Glenn) going up in space imminently? Bridge is just trying so hard to be taken seriously. Keep trying. ;-)

I didn't understand the speech thing...couldn't see the point at all! So, is Bridget moving in with Mark? Do we get to know?

Now that I think of it, Dad's speech problem sounds v.much like some of the slang my nieces use and I just ignore. There's bom or bomb and bitty-bom or some such thing. Can't remember what they mean though. Will have to ask.

If that speech thing is a sign of hipness, I just hope he doesn't start wearing those wide pants that slide down the teenagers bums these days.

it was a good one, but I always feel after reading the weekly installment that it was too short! I always want more. What I really want to know is what's going on with Tom? Are we going to hear anything about wicked Rebecca? What happened to the hole in the wall? and more important - where is Mark?

Again??? No comments??? Thought this week's travelogue was a riot. Can you picture HF up on a stage doing Bohemian Rhapsody? (Would need a chorus behind her though.) I'd pay to see it. Didn't it seem like she was fighting back against the "insult to feminism" attacks? Hey, what's irony? ;-D Perhaps, I should go off to Japan where will feel like giant, but do not like eating squishy centipedes and toilets that play music. To quote Freddie Mercury:Nothing really matters, Anyone can see Nothing really matters to me. BTW, it's Akihito. And no wonder this woman has an obsession with Beelzebub and his subdevils!!

Well I'm speechless.

I adored the travel logue, I must say. Maybe it's because I'm leaving for Japan on business on Monday and it helped put me in a better mood about it! Really, her comments are right on. I was in Tokyo in April (my first trip ever to Japan) and the three big things that stuck with me were the food, the endless business card ritual (I ran out long before everyone else, ah - the shame) and the toilets. The one at the hotel had a control panel with all kinds of... ahem, washing devices with temperature and pressure controls. The one at the office had a seat warmer and I read in a magazine that the real high end toilets also have controls for music (to mask sound) and for scent. Goodness, such high tech conveniences. Her comments about jet lag hit home too. Our trips are usually fairly short - a week or so, and they go by in a blur because of sleep deprivation. All this while you're trying to be on your toes at a meeting. Poor Helen - I pity her trying to field questions in that state.

Happy birthday in Japan, Jana. Does this mean you'll actually miss your birthday because it will really be Tuesday on Monday? ;-) Guess I better run over to the Telegraph and read about these centipedes and toilets.

Thanks for the good wishes, Heide. Yes, I'm hoping that missing the day over the international date line means I don't have to add another year to my age!

Happy Birthday Jana!! Quite the theory. Bridget would buy it!

(Mark) BTW, Evelyn, most hotels in South Kensington would be closer to Waterstone's in Old Brompton Actually, I was close to the Waterstone's on Kensington High Street (nr. Holland Park) Yes, I did get A Month in the Country, but did not see the BJ date Diary. Waterstone's is great about mailing though. And yes, Bethan, I inquired about " BJ I Will Survive "and was told it has bee rescheduled for March. It was fun to read Bridget in hard copy. Sent one to our Leader. I was surprised to see that it receives such high visibility in the Saturday Daily Telegraph. Some of my friends who normally buy The Times purchase the Telegraph on Saturday for Bridget!! We're not the only nuts!!

Evelyn, welcome home!!!!! I missed you soososososososososo much!!!!! Do I owe you any money btw;P hee hee.

Laura, you asked me ages ago if there was a new Nick Hornby novel coming out. I did check, but couldn't find anything. Isn't he currently writing a screenplay?

Gee, what a surprise. No column again this week.

I just checked myself!!! nothing!! UGH!!! how does she expect loyal followings if she doesn't write!!!!

(Laura) how does she expect loyal followings if she doesn't write!!!! You aren't putting yourself in *that* category, are you? ;-p Was thinking, however, the exact same thing. Bridget who???

Sitting here impatiently tapping my foot...

And the acronym for that would be...A most common urban phrase. ;-D

This was not a Bridget Jones' Diary column, this was a Helen Fielding feminist ranting column. Although the British Government may think it would be better the citizens of Great Britain were to marry, they cannot make people marry. Although I did like MD going down on one knee to propose because he'd get a tax break. That WOULD be the only inducement to marry BJ!

I agree, Laura, this was not Bridget. Helen Fielding on her soap box. Giving us the advantage of being a Singleton. ( But what about the cold feet on a winter night?, Helen.)

Definitely not the Bridget that we know and love. More advantages to being smug-married: -being brought hot-tea when we've got the sniffles -having shoulders rubbed on a stressful day -being loved even on a bad hair day -constant companionship -Mr. Fixit around the house when we're an idiot about that stuff -Computer wiz when we're an idiot about that -regular shagging :-)) Lots more when the marriage is good and isn't a good marraige to what most would aspire. I think BJ would give her eye teeth for it. It's not like her life is all the great as a singleton. I will grant a good live-in relationship can also do the trick.

You got a winner, Sue...."regular shagging" is what most girls get. I do think the installment this week was a bit strident. Bridget is usually teflon-like...things roll off her. She is jovial and accepts the lumps in life. (While eating another Jaffa cake!) Is there a psychologist among us? I think this tells us a lot about Helen Fielding....sour on marriage and relationships? The pre-marriage compulsory reading of Men are from Mars...is a hoot. (Though not a bad idea for high school.) The only true Bridget-line , IMO, was the last...."tell government to shuddup and get on with it"

(Evelyn) Is there a psychologist among us? I think this tells us a lot about Helen Fielding....sour on marriage and relationships? Not a psychologist, but maybe she's just saying there are GOOD things about being a singleton and that "marriage" is not the be all and end all. I didn't see where she ruled out relationships at all. Regarding the Top 10 list of Why Husbands Are Useful, those are certainly not givens with ALL men. The Mr. Fixit type occurs less and less these days. In my family (growing up) I was the one who put together everything (shelving units, etc.). My dad was handy but would never do anything. My brother-in-law hires someone to program his universal remote and I wonder if he knows how to change a lightbulb. I'll never forget the day the home security company sales rep came out to my house and was talking d wn to me. My boyfriend showed up and the guy got all excited because he was going to talk to a man. My boyfriend told the guy I knew more about telecommunications and electronics than he did!! (BTW, I wrote a letter to the company about their sales staff's patronizing attitude and got several free months of monitoring.) Regarding keeping one's feet warm, a good down comforter works even better. OK back to Bridget. I liked this week's column. It was well thought out and had some great lines. My favorite has to be: ...you have to go on at least 12 government-arranged dates before you can declare yourself a Singleton; and only then if have reasonable grounds for rejecting all 12. If unreasonable, then have to declare self a fuckwit. Too funny!!

.(Karen) Regarding keeping one's feet warm, a good down comforter works even better Or in a pinch....socks. Karen; I didn't see where she ruled out relationships at all. I really mean't to say that I wondered if a relationship that has gone sour precipitated this sudden antipathy to marriage...under the guise of the Green Paper. On the contrary, one of the positives of being a Singleton she says is: always the possibility of thrilling new liaisons without being slyly adulterous

The only true Bridget-line , IMO, was the last...."tell government to shuddup and get on with it" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nah, that was all Helen Fielding! bridget was not around this column!

Laura, didn't you say the Green Paper thing had to do with Prince Charles and Camilla Parker-Bowles?

No, some British Bishop gave the green light for Prince Charles and CPB:) Green Paper is a tax I believe on single people. White paper is a tax on Married??? I remember seeing the definition on CSPAN, but can't remember.

A green paper is a government consultation document. A green paper may become a white paper which is a provisional piece if legislation. Ask Ben. He used to be a Mandarin.

Allison is right. A green paper is purely consultative; a white paper is consultative too (comments are invited from interested parties), but it includes specific policy proposals. Anyone may respond to either. The next step is a Bill, which goes before parliament; it has to pass through various committees, and it gets three "readings" (debates, votes, and chances for amendments) in the Commons; the final approval by the Lords is nearly always a rubber stamp....Often, when the House of Lords objects, it i with good reason (c.f. recent case about charging non-Scots for Scottish Universities). If the Lords object, they can send it back to the Commons with suggested ammendments. Not all legislation gets presented as green or white papers before going to parliament. Anyone still awake?

This was from booksigning.

Hmmm... She has my hairstyle and color!!! I should sue;)

Thanks Ben. Interesting to see how Parliament bills originate. So who writes the original Green Paper.? Some MP? Or does it come out of committee. Anyone may respond to either. The next step is a Bill, which goes before parliament; Who is anyone ....MPs? Good picture of HF, Karen. I assume it was in Chicago.Thanks for sharing.

Okay, HF is back in top form!!! it is about time!!! this one is brilliant and brilliant is what I needed because I have flu and pneumonia:(!! THANK YOU HELEN FIELDING

So how many calories? How many cigs? How many stone? How many alcohol units? Inquiring minds want to know! I wonder why she changed the format and dropped those. Other than that, I liked this one.

I didn't even notice that was missing! Must be the horrible headache:(

I haven't been able to get into Telegraph all day. :-(

Hope you're over the flu, Laura! Karen, have you established contact yet? This week was good, but what's happened to the passion and the romance?!!! MD is "post-work exhausted, giving perfunctory kisses, having sleep problems (camomile tea?)... sleeping like a baby"?!! And's what's this about Bridget not being "allowed" to turn up at his house when she's had a bad day. She has to wait for an INVITATION? Or does he set the dogs on her, or ask his housekeeper to eject her from the property?

She has to wait for an INVITATION? Or does he set the dogs on her, or ask his housekeeper to eject her from the property? } She's always been a bit of a wimp when it comes to standing up for herself and taking initiative.

....and what's this about Bridget not being "allowed" to turn up at his house when she's had a bad day. She has to wait for an INVITATION? Yeah, that's what I was thinking...what's goin on here? Is this an Equal Opportunity Relationship, or what? "You eat 'n drink 'n sleep 'n...(you know what else).. in my house why can't I eat in yours..?" Unless, of course HF has a surprise in store for us along those lines.... The sentence seemed too cryptic....sneaked in.... And talking about sneaking in....have you noticed that The Telegraph now promotes amazon.co.uk as their book distrb? Amazon is moving out...c'mon Waterstone's get rollin!!

I really loved the new kick-ass Bridget, but I know she will only be around until the next self-help book. Evelyn, I never felt that the BJ/MD relationship was an Equal Opportunity Relationship, but maybe if BJ keeps some of her new attitude it can turn into one.

Well, I like the idea of Mark trying to help Bridge gain a back-bone! And I like that the calorie counter etc is back, but it was a bit of a slow episode.

Yes it was slow and I hope it doesn't go too far on the Jude storyline. I mean anytime I hear about a lump, my hand automatically goes up and starts palpating. Suspect HF is just using this as a device for Bridget to get "nicer" again.

It didn't take Bridget long to confess to Mark about her recent evil ways. I knew she wouldn't last too long. I rather liked evil Bridget.

I was kinda hoping maybe she did ring Daniel. I think Markee needs to realise how important BJ is to him. RE: Lump, sad way of making BJ feel bad!!! It was low. Gary, What is up with him? HF, make BJ sorta nice, sorta bad and tell us why she can't pop over Mark's whenever she wants??? Hmmmm.. suspicious minds want to know!

HF, make BJ sorta nice, sorta bad and tell us why she can't pop over Mark's whenever she wants??? Hmmmm.. suspicious minds want to know! He's secretly co-habiting with Rebecca and needs time to pop her in a cupboard! But, seriously, seriously, when will they really get it together (minibreaks and overnight stays in Bridget's flat don't count!) I was listening to an entertainment-type programme on the radio...all about books being made into movies. BJD was mentioned as "soon" to start shooting. But no cast/director details were given. And how soon is "soon"? I predict CF and Helena BC for the leads. How about Alison Steadman (Ma Bennet) for Bridge's Mum? Any other casting suggestions? Daniel? Jude? Perpetua? Anglo-American cast permitted!

Story from the radio: Apparently Cherie Blair sped over to HF at a Downing St reception to say how much she had loved BJD, having read it in three nights while her husband was away "..which was handy, because Tony's normally very demanding in the bedroom."

Re; Cherie Blair on reading BJD ".......Tony's normally very demanding in the bedroom." LOL Good for Tony 'n Cherie.At least he's demanding with his wife! I liked this week's installment. Poor Bridge couldn't keep the the New Evil Behavior wave crest going for long...had to confess to Mark. I liked what Mark told her: "...stop worrying about getting everything right..." Bridge is the perfect daughter,friend, girl friend ('n ex-girlfriend), employee, tries in vain to be the perfect hostess and cook. So, like she says: " Bad is the new good in parts. Maybe now she wont' be the ole doormat.

I liked this week's too. See how old Markee just puts in all in perspective! Poor Bridge is still in a muddle.

Hmmmm.... This is what I wrote when I started this blasted topic. Funny how things come back to haunt you. Mon, Feb 2, 1998 (13:29) | LauraMM (LauraMM) Well someone had to create this topic. As we all absolutely adore it. I would like to start by saying that I think a man who has a little insecurities is extremely sexy. And Mark Darcy, who comes a cross as a strong-headed male, just proved to the female race that he does indeed have some insecurities. Now will it scare Bridget away;)

As Richard would say: "Boring, boring...bloody boring". HF on her soapbox. Took on the NHS, doctors examining women in a demeaning way,scans (mammograms?) of breasts make one feel like a meat package at the supermarket....("2lbs of tripe sqashed between to tin plates"). C'mon Helen...you can do better than that.

Maybe HF had a mammogram, her first one. She around the age to start having them. I thought it rather lame too! What the hell is up with her father???

I think there could be an underlying personal agenda, but I agree that it was lame and rather dispiriting.

I think there could be an underlying personal agenda As I told Laura, it perfectly related the entire humiliating and painful experience of having a mammogram and the pathetic way women are treated when *something* out of the ordinary is seen. If you've ever gotten a call from some office person telling you you have to come back because the radiologist wants to look at something again, then you can't relate. You go out of your mind like Jude, only to find out that it was nothing. I've always maintained that if this test were performed on men, you can be sure that a better, less painful and easier to read test would be developed. Didn't they just develop a *blood* test for prostrate cancer? I hope Helen mounts a campaign and screams from her soapbox!!

(Karen)If you've ever gotten a call from some office person telling you you have to come back because the radiologist wants to look at something again, then you can't relate. You go out of your mind like Jude, only to find out that it was nothing. You wouldn't go out of your mind....I've had a masectomy and I'm still sane (no remarks!)The whole thing is overblown. Lots of worse things in life.

Am I hallucinating or is there really a 1999 Bridget Jones calendar/diary out there somewhere in the shops? I read this somewhere but don't know if my leg was being pulled. Have checked amazon, borders, and barnesandnoble but no dice so far.

I think one of the UK fans told us that. Try Waterstones or amazon.co.uk, or Dillon's

Heide, they probably wouldn't sell the same version here because of the holiday differences.

I called Waterstones re: The Bridget Jones' Diary . It is a diary and not a calendar...the latter does not exist. Waterstones has it: Hardback, ( the size of a paperback) 9.99 UKP postage to US 4.88 UKP Total 14.87 UKP Order online through their website email.

I was surprised Helen Fielding didn't take the week off. Isn't she about due for some time off--after all she's written a few weeks in a row now! 1) Laura should be happy that Tom is back 2) I'd kill Mark after that last comment 3) Bridget would probably, instead, notice that he actually referred to their relationship going somewhere, and take it as a positive sign. Might be a good time for her to get Mark to expand their relationship--like maybe actually ask her over to his house for once!

Does anyone know why this topic is not showing me on the index when there are new messages here? It is not set ast frozen or forgotten, but it never tells me when there have been new posts. When I actually come in, it does show me the new ones since my last visit though, so it is keeping track somewhere.

Everything is acting up again, Ann. Must be the February 2036 syndrome. Topic 97 isn't showing up for me as having anything new, but I can see people have posted. The only way I know of to fix it (for yourself) is to manually open all the topics you frequent, by typing in the URL. That seems to reset everything after a date-induced bout of amnesia. ;-)

Today's episode....I agree with Ann. I think HF is in danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater! We're just limping along....I'd much rather see a stronger narrative framework (and some movement in the BJ/MD "relationship") or a complete break. The sequel to BJD is coming out in April and then there's the movie....it's better perhaps to build in some "space". BTW I can sympathise with MD for losing patience with BJ's theories!

I liked this week...we have our old Bridget back...indecisive , insecure...hey Mark loves her that way. What the hell. BTW I looked up pashmina : made of pashm Don't know what that is?..... pashm.. a kind of fine wool for making shawls obtained from Tibet Your fact for the day:-) My new topics aren't showing up either. But I just delete the number up in the URL and type in the topic number I want. No need to type the whole URL. (Brought to you by evelyn, the Computer Pro..who still can't figure out the chat room procedure!!)

Mark Darcy is a definite PASHMASTER. And Bridge really needs to TELL HIM OFF REGARDING HIS LAST STATEMENT. She's too, smooshy! And sad to say I have a Pash Married and an ex-Pashspurt!

If Jesus had known how much heartache his birthday was going to cause Singletons, surely he would have shut up about same, especially being Singleton self. I thought this bit was pretty darn funny. It reminded me of what I enjoyed when I first read BJD(the book).

Bravo Mark! Bridget's insecurities and self-help books would have driven me out long ago. Then again, if he is a Pashmaster, guess that's why he's still with her. Jana, maybe you've got it. Screw the relationship - what I love are Bridget's observations. Remember Rhoda Morgenstern? She got boring too after she got married.

Mark really knows how to push her buttons!

10pm: Oh my God. Mark just called. Told him about pashmina conversation at which he went quiet. "What? What?" I said. "It's just strangely prophetic." he said. "With Christmas coming round again, I've been thinking. . . look this is not going anywhere, Bridget. I think it might be betterif we were just friends." Cannot believe it. Am cast out again on sea of singleton Torture Season at mercy of pashminas and Gaah! phone again. "Just kidding." (Was Mark.) "Can I come round?" Okay, I'm gonna go on my damn soapbox here and scream bloody murder. Why the hell, must HE always come round her place. What is WRONG with his place. What is he hiding? Who is he hiding? And who the hell does he think he is!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am getting more and more disgusted with this controlling freak of a boyfriend! He may be sympathetic sometimes, but generally he's out for himself and only wants to get his rocks off!

Re: Markee: He may be sympathetic sometimes, but generally he's out for himself and only wants to get his rocks off! So...what else is new?...he's just like most other men, no different. That's the nature of the beast.

(Laura) He may be sympathetic sometimes, but generally he's out for himself and only wants to get his rocks off! You may be right. Why does she put up with it? 'Cause Bridget's Bridget. I see this all the time and have been guilty of it myself. You're an independent woman, then you get a boyfriend and all of a sudden you sit and wait for him to make all the moves, so afraid if you do the wrong thing, you'll lose him. What's wrong with THAT picture?

I see this all the time and have been guilty of it myself. You're an independent woman, then you get a boyfriend and all of a sudden you sit and wait for him to make all the moves, so afraid if you do the wrong thing, you'll lose him. What's wrong with THAT picture? The thing is WE need to let THEM know who's in charge. It sure as hell isn't them!!! We shouldn't allow them to walk over us, we are much more stronger than they are. Heck, they couldn't deal with childbirth!

You're an independent woman, then you get a boyfriend and all of a sudden you sit and wait for him to make all the moves, so afraid if you do the wrong thing, you'll losehim. What's wrong with THAT picture? We shouldn't allow them to walk over us, we are much more stronger than they are.... At the risk of losing my dear friends...I'll tell you what's wrong with that picture.....you don't have to show "all your cards at once". You can coast a little ...that's not being a hypocrite ...just astute. The important thing is to have a plan. Maybe two. A&B. ( And not every relationship is alike.) After you assess the situation , hell, you might decide it's not worth the effort. But if you do...then go for it.

Wise woman!

There seem to be some problems with the Electronic Telegraph...but just I've read this week's BJD in the paper....and it's VERY funny. Back to "I love Lucy" territory - "Mark and Bridget go Christmas shopping." Mark is v. organised - shopping list for four- his Mum, Dad, his secretary, and Giles (he's obviously an only child with a not very extensive emotional life!) He also manages to find pressies for Nigel, Jude and Shaz, whilst Bridget is yet to leave the starting blocks! Good fun! Hope the Electronic Telegraph soon connects.

ARGHHHHHHHHH v. bad of Telegraph to NOT connect. Did they forget to pay the bill???? I think M.Darcy is emtionally scarred!

What is going on? Won't the Telegraph shell out for its technical support people to come in on the weekend and fix a problem? Are they that cheap that they won't pay time and a half? And Bethan you made it sound so good. Better be there tomorrow!!

Quote...(always willing to oblige!) "Oh God" said Mark suddenly standing still. "Shopping isn't supposed to be a mystical quest for inspiration in the teeming aisles of John Lewis. It's a systematic purchasing poeration" "WEll, what are you getting then?" "Father - Archangel by Robert Harris and A Man in Full by Tom Wolfe. Mother - Liberty's silk nightie and dressing gown; ever so slightly Oedipal I accept, but as requested. Debbie the secretary - Tiffany's earrings." "Ooooh" I said excitedly, wondering what would be for me. "Giles - bottle of scotch, and that's it" "That's it" I gasped. How could four presents, plus hopefully mine, be "it", when I've got to buy for Jude, Shaz, Tom, Magda, Simon, five godchildren, one nephew, one brother, one sister-in-law, Mum, Dad, Una, Geoffrey and Granny. More like this if you want it, and still can't connect!

Didn't Bridget used to think that Mark was a Mummy's boy?! Mark then goes on a shopping roll, buying American Monopoly for Nigel (his other friend) and meditation balls for Jude and Shaz, while Bridget doesn't even get off the starting blocks. Bridge then copies Mark and buys the same for her Mum and Dad, buys joke-y cosmetics which she then returns for a refund and leaves Mum and Dad's presents in the shop (from where they are nicked)! Return (inevitably)to Bridge's flat (one day she will cross Mark's threshhold) where they spend evening pruning BJ's over-sized mas tree with a scissors. Hope you get the full-length version soon! Christmas episode....Mark asks Bridget to spend the night at HIS place?

I just remembered that the National Post (national newspaper in Canada) runs Bridget's column every week in their Arts & Leisure section. ( I stumbled on it by chance when they sent a free copy to the house a few weeks ago). Anyway, they're also on-line and I thought this week's column would've been posted, but unfortunately it isn't, 3 older one's are. But there is an article on HF. It basically states all the things everyone here knows but I thought I'd give you the link anyway if you wanted to r ad it. The Helen Fielding Fan Club I hope the link works. If not go to www.nationalpost.com and do a search for BJD.

AH, its there, its there. But... I HATED IT. I think the next step for BJ is to be deemed certifiable and locked up in Bedlam.

Didn't do much for me either. Is Bridget really such an idiot that she can't get a normal-sized tree? I did like the bra-shopping and wish she would have gone on more with that. Something to relate to.

(Laura)Is Bridget really such an idiot that she can't get a normal-sized tree Hey...I've done that.In a big open-air nursery it's hard to judge size. I liked this week's installment.Verrrry Bridge.

I can't quite figure Mark out tho. He seems to only want sex from Bridge, he's not extremely romantic nor does he seem to care one toss about her.

Is this the end of Bridge? Is Helen Fielding giving up London for the smog and plastic of LA? Will Bridget come back from LA in six months 1)married and 2)pregnant? And still Mark Darcy is NOT romantic! "Will you?" he said, suddenly passionate. "I need you Bridget. I know you're always getting squiffy and into a mess, but I love you just as you are. And, when I think of being without you, life would be just so, so lonely and . . . dull." There is NO passion, no wanting, not flailing of arms to kiss each other. No grabbing at each other in the hot steamy passion for each other. Mark Darcy is DULL!

There is NO passion, no wanting, not flailing of arms to kiss each other. No grabbing at each other in the hot steamy passion for each other. Ah, but you've overlooked the crucial line...."And I looked at his eyes."!! The eyes convey true passion! Who needs flailing arms? :-) I'm puzzled...is this the end of Bridget? The Telegraph (paper) calls this week's episode a "Christmas cliffhanger", so maybe the story continues in the New Year. Various options: The absolute end of BJ's Diary OR Temporary break Story continues....BJ and MD living together (Yes!!)in LA (Would this mean that HF is relocating to LA?) Story continues...BJ has second thoughts. What's in it for her? Chucks job, leaves friends...all for "six months"? MD refuses longer term commitment, goes to LA alone. Story continues...BJ decides doesn't want to chuck job/leave friends etc. MD makes noble career sacrifice and stays in London with BJ! What do you think?

( Bethan)What do you think? I think HF is taking a holiday and no more installments till the New Year. Then it's off to LA and more experiences on the thru ways! Laura....Mark is NOT dull. That's just his style. He is not a demonstrative type.(He probably saves it for the bedroom :-))He told her in many words he can't live without her. They don't have to be grabbing at each other's crotches to prove it.!Sheeesh!!

Passion equates feeling. Looking into someone's eyes for passion is boring. MARK IS DULL HE OWNS IT HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!!! He says that Bridget makes his life more interesting not...Dull!

Interesting how the Telegraph put a question mark next to "Last Bridget Jones." My guess is that it is up in the air if HF is going to continue with the column, and if she does resume it may not be for another six months. HF has so much to do you know: work on the screenplay (they must have figured out that her book won't translate well to the screen) and on the sequel. She couldn't possibly fit in the demands of a once-weekly column. ;-) Once again, Mark tells Bridget that he loves her and...once again, have we heard Bridget say the same to him. He loves her, Laura. Who else would put up with her nutso behavior. Also, I think Mark is anything but dull. He's a serious guy (but has definitely loosened up with Bridget), with a serious career, and he's a workaholic. One thing I'm sorry about...if the column goes on hiatus...is we won't get another Geoffrey and Una turkey curry buffet gathering where everyone should be harping on Bridget and Mark about "why aren't you two getting married" type stuff!! I thought this week's was a riot, in a "creative" way. I also feel very close to you all, as fellow posters, at this time of year. Am now thinking about Nigel.... ;-)

(Laura)Passion equates feeling. Looking into someone's eyes for passion is boring. MARK IS DULL Wrong, Wrong ,Wrong. Lots of people have a problem demonstrating passion and feelings ...wearing your heart on your sleeve syndrome....doesn't mean passion does not exist in that person. Individual thing...maybe even cultural. And Mark is not dull...don't forget he was "burned" once.This time is being cautious. I hope HF doesn't dump us next year.And maybe they should get Nora Ephrom to write that screenplay. I hear "You've Got Mail" is v. cute.

My guess is that it is up in the air if HF is going to continue with the column, and if she does resume it may not be for another six months. HF has so much to do you know:work on the screenplay (they must have figured out that her book won't translate well to the screen) and on the sequel. She couldn't possibly fit in the demands of a once-weekly column. ;-) Tongue in cheek I think, Karen?! The sequel must be done and dusted as it's due out in April. And when I phoned Working Title way way back, the initial response (before they went all coy and reverted back to "in development") was that they were definitely making the movie and would start shooting "early next year". So won't HF be twiddling her thumbs by now....or maybe she's got a major re-write on her hands! I think there are many scenes in the book which will very easily translate to the screen....but I think they must press ahead and SHOOT!! There are other Singleton-type movies already in the can. BTW, is Polygram (and Working Title) now part of Universal? Hope this won't affect the casting....MD becomes a Harvard educated attourney!!

Out damned italics! Apparently there is an item in this week's Entertainment Weekly which includes HF in its list of top entertainers and states that "BJD will be made into a film by early 2000, courtesy of Working Title." I take this to mean that the film will be completed BY early 2000, not that filming starts then. Didn't HF say on her publicity trawl that the movie would be out in about 18 months? How do you all read "BY 2000"...(good news..they must start shooting soon, or BAD...another year's wait).

Now that Jana's back, Karen... is it possible to post the picture I sent you of us with Helen Fielding? Jana hasn't seen it yet. Thanks!

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Okay, YOU WILL NOT CONVINCE ME!!!!!!!! I think MDarcy is dullsville, boring, dull and dull again. Doesn't matter who well someone performs in the bedroom, I like romance (okay I'm a hopeless romantic) and BJ and MD just aren't romantic in the "You've got Mail" or "When Harry met Sally" sorta way.

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Since I haven't received my official okie-dokie from Jana, here's part of the picture. ;-)

(Bethan) The sequel must be done and dusted as it's due out in April. Perhaps we should double-check after the first of the year. "BJD will be made into a film by early 2000, courtesy of Working Title." I take this to mean that the film will be completed BY early 2000, not that filming starts then. Didn't HF say on her publicity trawl that the movie would be out in about 18 months? A movie like that probably wouldn't take all that long to shoot. (Wasn't FP a really short shoot?) Since they haven't started casting, I'd say all these dates are wishful thinking. No one can know or give out any decent information. Is there a director?

Great pic, Winter. Thanks. We were proud to have you as our LA rep.Along with Jana. Karen...you get better 'n better at this. She cuts people out at the stroke of the mouse....!Once we get Jana's OK can we have a repeat?

...but of course!!

Hmmm, who is that masked woman ;-)???? I think it's my fault that I'm cropped out. I told Karen I trusted her to use her best judgment and if the picture of me was too awful, please cut me out. I suspect she's just being polite by saying she doesn't have my OK, not wanting to admit that my likeness might frighten small children! Thank you Karen for sparing me the public humiliation :-) Besides, I kind of like being a woman of mystery. Now all you know is that I have brown hair and a perm and you can just imagine the rest. On second thoug t, Winter is cute enough for two. Karen why don't you just paste a second copy of her in my general area :-) ??

But Jana, I gave you the url so you could preview the pic. Well, I'm sure everyone wants to see your permed hair: (Who shall I unveil next?)

Now, all of you should know... that cropped out of the picture, to Jana's right, is Colin Firth. He's actally got his arms wrapped around Jana. But as you know, I have such bad luck with cameras, that he couldn't fit into the shot! :-D

(Winter) Now, all of you should know... that cropped out of the picture, to Jana's right, is Colin Firth. He's actally got his arms wrapped around Jana. Too funny, Winter. I was going to play with trying to get him into the picture, but that's a little advanced for me. Nan could do it though.

Hey...a great looking threesome. Like your hair, Jana ...and Winter's radiant smile...no wonder Livia warmed up to her :-)And she does look 16!!I bet they card you when you order a drink.

(Winter) Now, all of you should know... that cropped out of the picture, to Jana's right, is Colin Firth. He's actally got his arms wrapped around Jana. LOL! Oh honey, from your lips to God's ears! (Karen) But Jana, I gave you the url so you could preview the pic. Oh goodness gracious, was the URL in the email you sent me? I complete overlooked it. Durf! I got your email the day I got home from Manila. After flying all night I must have been in a jet lagged induced coma. Hope I didn't say anything worthy of a Bridget Jones Christmas card. "Really Karen, I feel so close to you as one of the hosts of Drool...." :-) Well, now that I've been outed, who's next?!?!

(Jana) Hope I didn't say anything worthy of a Bridget Jones Christmas card. "Really Karen, I feel so close to you as one of the hosts of Drool...." :-) LOL!! That line has quickly become one of my faves, and I know when you are arguing in Manila with all those banker types that your creativity and sensitivity as a human being bubbles up and shows through...If Mark weren't going out with me, I'm sure he would go out with you! Pfoah!!

All you ladies are lovely and you're real brave to put your picture on a public board. I must ask though...it looks like all three of you are putting your hands on the book as if you're ready to take an oath of office. Or is it the Mr. Darcy Pledge of Allegiance?

Okay from the GODS at Telegraph. Cry now or forever hold your peace;) This is the last entry in Bridget Jones's Diary. She has flown off to a better life in LA, with her boyfriend, Mark Darcy. We wish her well and hope she sends us a postcard from time to time. A full archive of her work will appear here shortly. So I guess that's it. We'll never know if MDarcy knocks up Bridget. OOohhh, how disgusting!

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! It's not true!!!!! It's impossible!!!!! (to quote a line from Empire Strikes Back). But frankly, I was getting upset over the last few entries

Mmmmmmmmm! (To quote someone we all know!)Well done Laura, for going to the source....BUT, I'm surprised if it's really the end. I've been slightly critical of one or two of HF's recent efforts, but only because I thought there were so many characters and situations that she could have made use of. Maybe HF's just had enough of Bridget, with the screenplay and the book! Or (possibility?) she wrote originally for the Independent, then there was a break, then exactly a year ago, she moved to the Telegraph, probably on a more lucrative contract. Perhaps she's had an even better offer (as Bridget is now truely global) to re-locate BJ and MD to the States. Watch the US columns! Or maybe, that's really it, finish. Well, there's always the book and the movie! Merry Christmas!

This is the last entry in Bridget Jones's Diary. Boo Hiss. Well, it was fun while it lasted. But Laura....this presents a new opportunity for Fan Fic....(In the words of our fav actor) Hmmmmmmm.

Well to be just a little vain, there is always "Olivia" Merry Christmas all! Laura (who hasn't quite learned how to spell!)

I'm sorry too that this looks like the end for Bridget. Why can't good things ever last? I got a delightful little gift from Santa (well, I got it for myself, actually). Bridget Jones Diary 1999 came in from a site in Canada that one of our visitors, Cathy, sent to me. (Thanks Cathy.) Entry for September 10 reads: Mr. Darcy's Birthday mmmm! (or the actor Colin Firth as he is known) Should be NATIONAL WET SHIRT DAY e-mail address for Fanfare Books is fanfare@cyg.net Site address is http://www.cyg.net/~fanfare/ ISBN for the book is 033037558X $25.49 Canadian dollars for book including postage and handling (steep) but $19.61 American dollars for the whole deal.

I think we can safely blame Laura for Helen's giving up the column. All that criticism, week after week. For shame!! ;-)

Doesn't anyone agree with my theory that HF (possibly) may be transferring her talents to another newspaper syndicate? Or perhaps she may want to build up some anticipation for the new book!

I think Helen Fielding has sold out, personally. And Karen, if she can't take constructive criticism, then she is definitely in the wrong business;) Now to go back to selling out. She is enjoying the plastic life of LA: Warm weather, palm trees, fake women and men. More of an opportunity she thinks then in London? It's sad, because I think the ending of Bridget was terrible. I need closure (like a wake or something), she can't just run away to LA w/ Mark Darcy. Their relationship wasn't that solid that after two weeks, he'd be sending her back to London! HF if you read this YOU SHORT CHANGED YOUR FANS!!!!!!!

I think we can safely blame Laura for Helen's giving up the column Yeah!!I liked Bridge....warts 'n all :-))And it will leave a void in my life!! Please, Helen...defect to another newspaper....LA Times??

(Laura) the plastic life of LA: Warm weather, palm trees, fake women and men. Hmmm, it's been in the 20's, we're freezing our butts off and when I pinch myself I certainly seem real :-). Sorry, just couldn't let that dig of my home town go by withtout comment. Jana - an original Valley girl I'll keep an eye peeled on the Times for you all, in case anything develops!

(Jana)Hmmm, it's been in the 20's, we're freezing our butts off and when I pinch myself I certainly seem real :-). Sorry, just couldn't let that dig of my home town go by withtout comment. An abnormality, Jana, an abnormality.

Hmm....I'm very disappointed with HF leaving us with very little, if any, closure on Bridge's life. I agree Laura, I feel very short-changed. BTW--- I will also keep my eye open for any news of HF here in town because GUESS WHAT?!?! Throughout the Christmas break, I've been doing temporary office work at the L.A. Times. It's the accounting department, but hey-- I could wander around on my lunch break and when I have to deliver mail! I could very well run into her in the bathroom too! ;-) (BTW, the Times is L.A.'s only newspaper--besides the Spanish "La Opinion.". As much as I've grown to dislike this city, I can sure benefit from it being the ubub of our droolworthy stalking.

I think you'll get closure in the sequel "BJ -I will survive" (or whatever). HF has said that it's all about what happens when BJ gets her man. I think that the weekly columns have almost a separate existence...more of a semi-topical social commentary (which could continue anywhere), whereas the book may well start and finish at completely different points. I was in our local Waterstones today and I asked about the sequel...it's still listed as due out in April, but I don't know how reliable this is.

Thank you , Laura, for the BJD Archive. Great fun re-reading. But surely, this isn't the end of Bridget..... Don't we have the new book, to be published in April, to look forward to? Aaaaannnnd. Then there's the movie after that.... Lots more Bridget in our future, folks.....

Just to say that Nick Hornby has apparently switched publishers (Gollanz to Penguin) in a new �2 million deal. It may well be that HF is re-negotiating, particulary after her US success. There's a lot more mileage left in Bridge and Mark, and I'm hopeful we'll see more, but not in the Telegraph!

I phoned Macmillan (Picador is one of their imprints)."BJ - I will survive" is scheduled for publication in April, ISBN 0330 367 34X, price �12.99.

Bethan, is there a way for you to find out if it will be published simultaneously in the States??? or shortly thereafter. Ah, so Nicky boy has new publisher, interesting. I wonder if they will require him to start churning the books??? I'm waiting for him to come to Chicago, I think I just might hang around the film site;) John Cusack is temptation enough for me!

I meant churning OUT the books! ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Laura....Saw you on National Television yesterday morning. Here I was eating my granola and lo and behold this "gorgeous" blond comes on during the Today Show on NBC and is telling me about the snow in Chicago and how it interfered with their plans...... Hey...this looks like Laura...sounds like Laura... IT IS LAURA.... Lookin good kid....so how come you didn't mention CF's interview:-) ******* Laura, why don't you call MacMillan in Boston...if it is to be published in April in the US they would know.Esp. since Bethan graciously got us the ISBN number.

Hi Laura....Saw you on National Television yesterday morning. Probably didn't notice me (wearing a parka the color of CF's eyes) shoveling, while Laura got interviewed!!

My 15 minutes of fame!!!! Wow, so now I'm gorgeous, I've been called cute, but gorgeous???? Thanks, Evelyn! Will do call MacMillan!

Helen Fielding is writing again in the Telegraph, but in the Travel Section...her experiences on a ski-ing holiday. So she's not taken time off to finish BJD2 or to burn the midnight oil over the screenplay. Sound as though everything is done and dusted, and she has taken a break from Bridget. Oh well...

(Bethan).....and she has taken a break from Bridget. Actually, this is a good marketing strategy ....people will be ravenous to read about Bridge and pounce on the book when it's published. If she continued her weekly column, the readership would have enough of a Bridget-fix and not be as eager to purchase the book.

From "The Times" diary Feb 6th: "Andrew Davies, the costume dramatist[P&P2], has teamed up with Helen Fielding... to pen the screenplay for Hollywood's version of BJD. To appreciate the fictional life of the chain-smoking, caffeine-addicted, young and always single heroine, Fielding took the screen writer around some of her old haunts.... Was the sixtysomething able to stand the pace? "Of course ," Davies says. "Bridget's big mistake is that she never considers the possibilities of going out with an older man." Now , what do we all make of that??

Interesting, very interesting!

Is that the end of Mark Darcy, hope not?

Hah! V. interesting indeed. One thing I've noticed is that by the time something appears in The Times Diary, it's already fait accompli, done and dusted. Which means, I think, that the screenplay is completed. The co-involvement of Andrew Davies is, I think, terrific news. Authors aren't necessarily the beat equipped to adapt their own material as screenplays. You often need a fresh approach. And writing screenplays is very different from writing a more internalised novel. Terrific news! Andrew Davies is a very skilled and highly entertaining screenwriter (who is not averse to the occasional sexy scene! Didn't he want Colin to dive naked into the lake. But CF refused. :-)() And who better to write a screenplay about Mr Darcy, or a contemporary updated version of P&P? Excellent PR possibilities here. As to AD's comment, I merely took this to be a reaction to the question about standing the pace. He's just saying it's a pity Bridget didn't go for an older man....I don't think it means we see BJ walking away into the sunset with an octogenarian!

Is that the end of Mark Darcy, hope not? I didn't understand your remark, Ann, until I read Bethan's comment. I think the line about an older man was just an AD joke. I hope!

Davies says. "Bridget's big mistake is that she never considers the possibilities of going out with an older man." Now , what do we all make of that?? Merely that Andrew Davies, a known and self-confessed libertine in his private life, made a quip about imagining himself in the role.

I will add the MD question when I speak to his agent next week. Has AD ever done anything contemporary?

Good news! We can keep this topic active with speculation on the upcoming filming. Merely that Andrew Davies, a known and self-confessed libertine in his private life, made a quip about imagining himself in the role. Or perhaps in Helen's life. ;-)

Grrrreat News.... Andrew Davies is a great screenwriter....(which was my objection to FP.. weak screenplay, IMO) Now....Sue Birwistle ...where are you when we need you. Anybody have her email??

Andrew Davies IS a great screenwriter, particularly when working for B.B.C. Some of his other British I.T.V. work has been much weaker (Emma). He needs to be part of a "Dreamteam", so let's add Susie Conklin and of course our DB and we are on to a "Surefire winner".

Let's not forget the director.....can we hope for Simon Langton?... and- what- the- hell...let's throw in Carl Davis for the music. But, wait a minute...we forgot the crucial one...who will play our Bridge??

But, wait a minute...we forgot the crucial one...who will play our Bridge?? I've been thinking about this... How about.. Claire Rushbrook (Brenda Blethyn's daughter from Secrets and Lies; played Spice Girls' manager in 'Spice World')? More suggestions to come. p.s.: NOT Helena Bonham-Carter. Much as a I like her, she's too wispy to play someone like Bridget.

I've always thought Claire Rushbrook would be perfect. when I saw her in SpiceWorld!!!! I brought it up way back when!

From today's Evening Standard, a snide and horrid piece about GP by the awful Julie Birchall entitled "Why I Hate Gwyneth". One thing she throws in at the end. "Her (ie GP) heart's desire, it is whispered, is to play the lead in the fil of the pitiful BJD. The wettest film star in the world playing the wettest heroine in the history of literature..." Arghhh...Surely not. She is way way to young and is just not the right type. But it might account for why she is the only person involved in SIL who mentions Colin. She has him on her mind.

From today's Evening Standard, a snide and horrid piece about GP by the awful Julie Burchill entitled "Why I Hate Gwyneth". One thing she throws in at the end. "Her (ie GP) heart's desire, it is whispered, is to play the lead in the fil of the pitiful BJD. The wettest film star in the world playing the wettest heroine in the history of literature..." Arghhh...Surely not. She is way way to young and is just not the right type. But it might account for why she is the only person involved in SIL who mentions Colin. She has him on her mind.

Ooops. Read the second of those. Not that she deserves, it but I spelt J Burchill's name correctly there. Did not mean to post the first version.

(Allison) GP to play BJD. She is way way to young and is just not the right type. But it might accountfor why she is the only person involved in SIL who mentions Colin. She has him on her mind. Someone on this board suggested her last year. Let's look at it this way: Automatic hit with Gwynnie.And if she talks Colin to play MD, not bad for him to star with GP. Did you see "Sliding Doors"? GP put in a powerful performance as a trendy British chick.Americans and the British love her.Looks like win-win to me.

New Time magazine has a full page article about the hair extensions she wore to the Golden Globes.

Her hair extensions looked great! They say she spends hours at the salon. She may be too skinny for BJ, but she could handle the role.

I'm very pro GP for the role. Six months ago I might have thought differently, but I genuinely like her, and she's hugely popular. If it's a Hollywood backed production they'll go for a name, and I honestly can't think of anyone except Helena BC or Minnie Driver. Bridget only perceives herself as "plump"...I always imagine her as rather attractive! GP is rather young, but then all 30 something actresses look 20 something, so why not go for a 20 something? And yes, I'd like to see GP and CF star together...at least she wouldn't slap him in the face this time! Allison, I agree that Julie Burchill is awful...she always goes for the jugular.....but I thnk she does have her finger on the pulse, and if she writes that GP is interested in BJD, then there will be some substance in this. Keep reading the Evening Standard (forget the Mail!)....seems a good source! How about keeping the P&P connection, and having Alison Steadman and Benjamin Whitrow as Bridget's Mum and Dad. And Anna Chancellor as Natasha. And David Bamber as Tom, or Richard Finch? Lots of scope for in-jokes, with AD as co-writer. This may be the nearest we get to a sequel to P&P!! And GP has Jane Austen connections via "Emma". :-)

I like David Bamber as Tom, that would be coup casting! I'm still iffy on GP as BJ. I would prefer a more plain person. True, we never really know what BJ looks like, but with her weight, she seems quite average for the average 5'5/6 person. BJ should be mid-30s, MD late 30s. I still go with Claire Rushbrook, she is quite pretty and very versatile! And it would be a big boon to her career. Adrian Lukis as Daniel;)

Oh yes!! Adrian Lukis as Daniel. But somehow I doubt that the bigwigs would go for such an in joke in their casting decisions. Alack and alas. It would be their loss. :( Gwynnie's good, but I think too young and enough with this Brit thing and her.

Gwynnie's good, but I think too young and enough with this Brit thing and her. ] Amen to that!!!!

I am beginning to worry whether CF will in fact do MD. I was feeling confident but two things worry me. Firstly, will he have the time? I am really not sure how long films take to make but I assume he will only start preparing for DQ after 3DOR i e mid March. I realise I have very little idea about how films are made but they must have a lead in time, rehearsals etc. or do they do that as they go along? It is hard to imagine that they would start filming before the beginning of May. I assume BJD wil be filmed in the Summer. I would guess June or July. Presumably not later if they are looking to an early 2000 release. Wouldn't that make it rather hectic for anybody but especially for Mr"I hate working back to back" Firth. Secondly I am worried about that comment about being too old to play moonstruck young lovers any more. Perhaps he doesn't put MD in that category.

(Allison), Wouldn't that make it rather hectic for anybody but especially for Mr"I hate working back to back" Firth. I think Colin seriously wants to change this and is working hard at it now. The new Colin is emerging hold on to your hats!

(Laura)I still go with Claire Rushbrook, she is quite pretty and very versatile! Only thing is....who would go to see this movie?.... A bunch of no-names. ******* ( Allison) Wouldn't that make it rather hectic for anybody but especially for Mr"I hate working back to back" Firth. (Moon)The new Colin is emerging hold on to your hats! That's known as "Paying the mortgage on the new house"syndrome.

MD isn't a moonstruck lover...he's a successful divorced barrister, late thirties, with a bit of a commitment problem! Mortgage, kid, non-working wife (probably). Hey, he'll be working back to back all the time now! And if a few more bambinos appear on the scene... 3DOR will be over by mid-March (with stage plays most of the work is before the opening). Block out April-May for DomQ, which could be filmed in 6 weeks, and that still leaves June thru' Sept for BJD. And he has just had six months off! I still haven't given up on Mary Queen of Scots...way to win an Oscar, major romantic role in big costume drama, horrible death at end! But that really would be back to back to back. But he's a man with responsibilities now! The Oscars...Why Brenda Blethyn again? She got awful reviews in the UK, and her voice really grates on my poor ol' nerves. And it's always the same performance. And what happened to Bulworth? Got rave reviews over here, ditto The Trueman Show.

Haven�t been able to post much this week, as life and work seem to be interfering with my time at Drool. Very good news about P&P and BJD sharing the same screenwriter�. Anyway, here is an exceedingly short (and bad) poem which sums up my feelings about the MD casting issue: Dear Mr. Firth, please put us to rest, Don the bumblebee socks and ugly vest-- "Mark Darcy! Mark Darcy!" they call out to you; We Firthettes need an inside joke or two. Oh won�t you please be our Valentine And sign the movie contract on the dotted line? Note: after I wrote this, I did check my facts, and in BJD MD is wearing an ugly sweater (jumper) in lieu of an ugly vest (waistcoat). Didn�t want to rework the rhyme, so I left it alone. My apologies to the BJD purists. Happy Valentine�s Day to all.

Nice one Lizza! I'll add... "Cuckolds, madmen,haughty earls, Soccer fans and fickle churls, You've shown your range, Now hear our pleas, Just one romantic hero please!" Pleas...please, oh well, it's late. What I would like to see is GP winning an Oscar, and then announcing that her next project is BJD with CF. I think this all falls within the realms of possibility!

Sorry, Lisa . As I said, it's late!

Lisa....Bethan....we hardly know ye...What talent... Poets in our midst!!

Brilliant Ladies! All of our sentiments so succinctly and eloquently put. Far better than what is scrawled in any Hallmark VD card. :)

Such a creative bunch...it only takes a little inspiration. Also in honor of the day, I see in my 1999 Bridget Jones Diary that besides being St. Valentine's Day, today is also National Impotence Day. (That's what it says!) And then a note from Bridget saying, "You see life imperfect for many"

Has Kate Winslet ever been suggested to play Bridget Jones opposite CF, I think she would be perfect, she has a high Hollywood profile after Titanic, she has a slight weight problem, is about the right age, she is british, and now with her short haircut looks like my idea of BJ. I don't remember her name being mentioned before but I may be wrong.

Kate Winslet is TOOOO YOUNG. BJ is in her mid thirties.

Kate Winslet looks older than she is....she could do it. A British star who is well known to Americans.

I tend to lurk here more than post but I just had to give my two cents, if you don't mind. Has anyone ever thought about Jennifer Ehle as Bridget? Granted she doesn't have the Hollywood profile but it's a British film, isn't it? And personally, I don't want to see an American in the role, especially GP. When actors are shoved down my throat in so many movies and magazine covers and interviews in such a short period of time, they tend to grate on my nerves, and she is bugging me like crazy lately. If she p ays yet another British person, I will scream. Enough already. Try a southern drawl or something. I'd just get such a kick if JE were paired with CF again. What better place than a modern take on P&P to reunite them? That's my ideal casting choices but I have a feeling it'll snow in hell before my wish would happen.

If GP could play BJ then I don't see why KW couldn't, she must be about the same age and is very popular here in the UK.

I've thought of JE as Bridget, and if this was a purely British film, I'd think this could be a possibility. But it's the "Hollywood" version (Why? It can't be an expensive movie to shoot, London locations,character driven, many interior shots, no special effects, British actors are cheap...couldn't Film Four or BBC Films have done it for �2 or �3 million? ) Anyway, if it's Big business, it will be a Big name. I still think GP is the odds on favourite. Although I agree KW could look early thirties...she h s a more womanly type of beauty! But if it's the "Hollywood version" it will really boost CF, otherwise he seems to be overlooked. And he has to play this role (Hollywood, d'ya'hear me! Not Hugh Grant, not Ben Affleck, okay!)

Hugh Grant would be such a total turn off. BA is too young for the role. Who would look better in that tart outfit Bridget wears? I think Kate W. But at this point it looks like whatever Gwynnie wants she gets. I'm just hoping that they offer MD to CF. JE could be offered the part of one of Bridget's friends. This could be a great P&P reunion film but I doubt it would happen.

I was reading about the casting for the new Miramax film of Jane Austen's "Mansfield Park" shot in England....the lead role of Fanny is played by an Australian actress, and the rest of the principal cast is American, with, I think, one British actor who was in "Trainspotting". So I don't know what that portents for BJD!! It's big business, bankability and profits that matter. I wouldn't be unhappy with Gwynnie, provided that she stays loyal to CF! Isn't she quoted somewhere as saying that Harvey wanted an American to play Shakespeare, but she persuaded him that it had to be a British actor!!

Again, I will say it Kate Winslet is TOOOO DAMN Young as is Gwyneth Paltrow. JE is on the cusp. They need an unknown British actress who is in her early to mid thirties. Perhaps Helen Fielding could play Bridget. She is Bridget!

(Lisa) CF & JE in BJD....That's my ideal casting choices but I have a feeling it'll snow in hell before my wish would happen. I think you could easily bet the "family farm" that they'll never be cast together. *** I vote for Gwyneth.Bag the unknown British actress :-) Movies with unknowns play on each coast and in UK (who also don't go to see them!!)Producers hate them because they can't get funding without a bankable star. They are made alright and then they sit on a shelf because no distributor will touch them.

So you know what's practical to make a bankable film. But what do you really want? Forgetting money for a moment, who do you really want to see as Bridget? A fantasy, I know but I'll be damned if I want a 20-something playing a woman in her thirties. There are too many good actresses (American and British) in their 30s who could do this role. I like Jane Leeves or Emily Watson myself.

Thank you, Heide. GP is too young!!!! I will not rest until I get everyone to figure that out!

Ok then, not KW, what about Natasha Richardson, (a Month in the Country(, the chemistry between CF and NR was good in AMITC, and I think she would be the right age and is quite well known in the US?

(Heide), I like Jane Leeves or Emily Watson I can't place JL but I disagree on EW. She is a v. good actress but I don't see as Bridget, and the same goes for Natasha R. Laura, GP may be too young but as Evelyn pointed out it is a Hollywood movie. We should just hope they get it right and at least have the intelligence to offer MD to CF which is NOT a given. I'm afraid the producers are gong to want to reach a younger audience with BJD and if GP wants to be BJ she will probably have first pick. I would prefer a P&P reunion but that would be too much of an inside joke I'm afraid.

Age aside, I can't see GP as Bridget. She seems too...I can't describe it...together? Sophisticated? Same for Natasha. I think KW could pull off that manic, disorganized 'why do these crazy things keep happening to me?' quality of BJ but YES, LAURA, she's too young. I've never seen Emily Watson do comedy, but she's not right either. Now Jane Leeves, I could see her, but is it too close to her 'Frasier' persona? Has she done any films lately? Considering the big-bucks Hollywood angle, it's still a ga ble when US TV stars move to films (e.g., 'Friends'). How the closely the screenplay will match the book is another interesting question.

Nothing like a little controversy to get some life on this board:-) (heide) Forgetting money for a moment, who do you really want to see as Bridget? A fantasy, I know ... Hmmmm, let's see...if Andrew Davies doesn't change it all around.... Natasha would be OK ( Parent Trap, cute and she wowed 'em in Cabaret). I guess firstly I would like Colin to be cast as Mark...and whom they cast him with is immaterial...I just hate to see these good Brit movies just go on a shelf.Have they announced the director yet?That is crucial. The more I look at P&P the more I think Simon Langton was the unsung hero.Agree with Moon a P&P reunion would be the fantasy "Dreamteam".

Laura, GP may be too young but as Evelyn pointed out it is a Hollywood movie ] I think we will see differently. Helen Fielding has maintained that she wanted creative control when it came to casting BJ. We will not see GP and KW as BJ. How do I know this, because it's HF's baby and she would not let them ruin it. I will remain adamant and when I am proved right, I will then gloat! I really could care less who plays MD, he's a dog anyway!

How about Ruth Gemmel??

Or Holly Aird, who played RG's flatmate, she has the right kind of dizziness and sense of humour.

I think Holly Aird would be a great possibility. As far as "essentials" - what an actress needs to play Bridget, apart from looking the part (hence no 20-somethings, my rule only), the women we've mentioned above are all actors - I'm sure any one of them can do comedy roles even if we equate them only with dramatic roles now.

I think Holly Aird would be great...(reminded me of Rosie O'Donell with Meg Ryan in "Sleepless in Seattle".) Can't stand Ruth Gemell's voice!!Grating.

OK, so how about a discussion on the secondary roles? Who do you want or would you think would be fun in the following roles? (Please keep in mind, that not that much thought went into this, I haven't read the book in a while so the description of the characters escapes me.) Daniel Cleaver...... Rupert Everett Pam Jones........... Joan Collins Colin Jones......... Sharon.............. Julia Sawalha Jude................ Una Alconbury....... Phillida Law Geoffrey Alconbury.. Michael Caine Natasha............. Elizabeth Hurley Perpetua............ Magda............... Jeremy.............. Vile Richard........ Rebecca............. Richard Finch....... Tom................. Julio............... Ricky Martin This was a lot harder than I thought that's why so many are left blank. Any one else want to give it a try?

Well, I guess I am the only one in the dark.... Who is Holly Aird?

Wait! and don't forget to cast: Elena Rossini (the domestic servant MD defends in court)........ ME! (I shamelessly asked HF at her booksigning last year if I could possibly have a minor role)

I like Imogen Stubbs as Bridget also, aka Lucy Steele or Sarah in Jack & Sarah (she died in childbirth:() Ricky Martin!!! LISA!!!!!!! too funny, but Julio wasn't he an older man?????

Who is Holly Aird? She was Ruth Gemell's flatmate in FP.

(Evelyn) She was Ruth Gemell's flatmate in FP. Thanks, Evelyn. Ah, now I know why I had not heard heard of her. And now I have to wait until May to see her(and CF, of course!) in FP....::sigh:: I used to consider myself a patient person, but waiting for the release of some of CF's movies has tested me beyond reason......::bigger sigh::

Sorry for the two *heards* above....

When was the release date for FP changed to May, I thought the latest date was March, I don't know first February, then March and now May, goodness knows when we will see MLSF at this rate.

I reckon FP is being released close to the release date of MLSF, so that perhaps he'll promote the two in tandem in the US. May be too busy now, with 3DOR, and perhaps DOMQ. Holly Aird would be fine, but if they want the film to be an international success, I still think they'll go for a "name". All-British cast films often struggle, even in (particularly in?) Britain.

Ouch! Hollywood's reality is so harsh, I'm just going to forget it and live in my fantasy world - who I'd like to see play the roles, not who Hollywood should cast to get the most bang from their buck. I like Lisa's game. Joan Collins as Pam? Interesting...kind of a viper image. Daniel Cleaver...Colin Firth. Ha ha!! Perpetua...Tracey Ullman in one of her guises.

What's wrong with Ricky? I have no idea how old Julio is but I'd love to see RM in the role. Come on! Shouldn't Julio be this hunky latin guy with buffy broad shoulders that just makes Pam and every lady in the theatre melt? I'd be ready to plunk down 8.50 Cdn multiple times just to hear him say: "You sleep with MY woman" in a dangerous, possessive way. I'd rather Julio be younger than Pam anyway. I don't want to see a Ricardo Montalban scaming her but a young latin stud with a great butt do it.

I think Jennifer Saunders would be a good BJ; watching ABFAB today it hit me that HF must have had Eddie in her mind when she conceived BJ/. Ricky Martin is WAY too young for Joan Collins!

Oh no Laura, I would rather see Dawn French as BJ!

Ricky Martin is WAY too young for Joan Collins! Didn't JC marry a young guy a few years back and he took her money? She'd be perfect for the role of Pam, she wouldn't need to do any research for it! OK, you don't like Ricky, how about Placido Domingo? Is he old enough for you? Or would you prefer Antonio Banderas? (I'm running out of Latin men here!)

No, Lisa, they are good choices, but he must be older. Not Ricardo Montalban older, but in his 40s. I always thought Julio was more greasy, if handsome looking;) Dawn French! Oh dear Lord, that's funny! Okay, I'll stick with Claire Rushbrook, she's pretty and funny! and not your typical perfect looking model, but NORMAL looking. I could always play BJ, but I'm too thin:( ;) Karen, come back to us soon!!!!!

For Julio: that actor from 'Nostromo' (can't for the life of my remember his name), you know, the one who played the soldier/bad guy. Had dark, wavy hair all slicked back. Sorry I can't be more specific, it's been awhile since I watched Nostromo (not one of my Firthfaves). Joan Collins as Pam? What a hoot.

I'm back (sorry, folks) Anyway, HF mentioned that she had in mind Omar Sharif for Julio...not a younger guy! ;-) More later

Omar Sharif? Is he Portuguese? Isn't Julio supposed to be from Portugal? How old is OS anyway? I guess he's about JC's age or maybe more... yeah... he's OK... I'll settle for him if I have no choice, although I'd prefer someone a bit younger.

Believe it or not I actually watched Nostromo on Sunday! Must have been desperate. Eilenn, that actor who was the nasty Sotillo (sp.) would be good as Julio though a bit older too than I'd imagine. Still, he was slimy. And a bad actor to boot!

Omar Sharif? Is he Portuguese He's Egyptian.

Saw Ricky Martin on ET last night. I hadn't been making the connection before. Him? For Julio? Isn't he still in diapers??? And forgive me, but I thought Omar was dead :-( . Guess not, if HF was thinking about him. Seems we're having the same age thing (too old, too young) with this character as well as BJ! I hope the real casting people aren't...

Saw Ricky Martin on ET last night. I hadn't been making the connection before. Him? For Julio? Isn't he still in diapers??? OK, you've all convinced me he's too young, but I still think he'd be fine if they can't find anyone else. He can act, I saw him on General Hospital a few years ago (thank God he chopped that mop off his head!)and if they wanted, Julio could always break out into song and serenade Pam! I saw him on ET too Eileen. I had no idea he was singing at the Grammys on Wednesday. I wasn't planning on tuning in before but I am definitely now. The only thing that bothered me was that he was singing his song La Copa De La Vida in English. What a disappointment! If he was going to sing in English he should've picked Maria, Un, Dos, Tres . There's an English version of that song and it's so much fun to bowl to! I tried looking up other Latin men actors but I didn't have much luck. They are few and far between. I could only come up with three more: Jimmy Smits, Edward James Olmos and Andy Garcia.

I think Helen was referring to a certain "look" when she said she visualized Omar Sharif in the role. You know, dashingly handsome and mature. A Ricardo Montalban would right as well. (Is he alive?) (Heide) that actor who was the nasty Sotillo (sp.) would be good as Julio though a bit older too than I'd imagine. He's really short!! Was also the bad guy traitor in "Clear and Presdent Danger." But he isn't too old...

OK, I'm grasping at straws here, but Cheech Marin came to mind after I saw commercial for Nash Bridges. If like Karen says, HF wants a dashingly handsome older man for Julio, he's definitely out of the picture, but the thought of him with Joan Collins gave me a good laugh. And Ricardo Montalban is alive!!!!!!!!!

I like that Hyacinth Bouquet lady for Bridget's mom. Joan is way too glamorous.

Karen, it's Hyacinth Bucket! What about the grandma on ABFAB as Pam, she's plays ditzy well, I mean who uses condoms to wash dishes? hee hee;)

Yeah, as soon as I sent it, I remembered that it's Bucket, but she pretentiously pronounces it like the other. Oh well, I don't watch the show, but she looks about right. Don't watch AbFab either.

Finally, I shall be able to see what the fuss is about Cadbury Milk Trays!!

Chocolate, Karen, Chocolate. Plus Cadbury is made there, so it's much different from our Cadburys! Oh do bring some back;)

OK, managed to find several of the more important Bridget junk foods! Can say categeorically that Jaffe Cakes (brand name) are the exact same thing as a cookie thing made by the LU brand and sold in the US. They call them Pimm's or some such thing and are available with orange or raspberry jelly. Brought a deluxe tin of Milk Tray at the airport on the way out (what else does one do with leftover cash!!). Haven't opened them up yet (or the tin of Flake either), but seems to me they aren't going to be much different from any assorted chocolates one can buy from Fannie Mae, Fannie Farmer, Sees, Whitman,e etc. These were a "deluxe" tin, so the shapes and decorations were a bit more la-di-dah! So Helen is addicted to these things...

I don't like Flake;( It's too flaky. Rebecca flipped out when I brought some back from Ireland. She hated it too!

I like Jaffa Cakes. Karen and I munched on them during the Jennifer Ehle movie on Sunday.Yummmmm. **** I vote for Antonio...(Gi's fiancee) to play Julio. He is Portugese and v. handsome.

No way, Evelyn! Antonio says there really is a Julio in Albufeira, who lives off foreign women. Antonio has business and lives in part in Albufeira, and can I but dream that they'll shoot BJD there if Colin is in it? :-)

(GI)No way, Evelyn! AAA. Did not mean to imply that Antonio is a gigolo:-) Mean't it as a compliment....as handsome as Antonio Banderas;-D

No offence taken. But I would not have him play Julio :-)

From today's Variety (also a mention of Captain Corelli's Mandolin and High Fidelity toward the end): Working Title duo to stay U may slate 'Bridget,' 'Captain' By ADAM DAWTREY, March 26, 1999 LONDON � Tim Bevan and Eric Fellner, co-chairmen of Working Title Films, have finally signed a five-year deal to continue at the helm of the London-based production company under Universal Pictures. The long-awaited arrangement, due to be announced today, is understood to guarantee them the same creative autonomy they enjoyed under Polygram Filmed Entertainment, as well as richer personal terms. It will enable Bevan and Fellner to greenlight the same kind of risky medium-budget fare, such as the $25 million �Elizabeth� and the $18 million �Bean,� that they previously persuaded PFE to bankroll. The first projects likely to be financed by Universal are �Bridget Jones� Diary,� an adaptation of Helen Fielding�s bestseller about being a single female over 30, and �Captain Corelli�s Mandolin,� to be directed by Roger Michell, from Louis de Bernieres� romantic novel set in Greece during World War II. Bevan and Fellner will also be asking U to greenlight �Thunderbirds,� a blockbuster live-action version of the cult TV series. Concern over Hollywood Bevan, who was not available for comment Thursday, previously has said that if Working Title had been owned by a Hollywood studio for the past five years, the company would only have managed to make �French Kiss� and �Notting Hill,� both mainstream projects costing more than $40 million. Instead the company has produced a stream of low-budget hits, including �Four Weddings and a Funeral,� �Fargo� and �Dead Man Walking.� One of Bevan and Fellner�s highest priorities during their months of negotiation with Universal was to secure the right to continue making quirky British and American films at lower budget levels. The duo�s old contracts with PFE were due to expire in June, but last year�s takeover of PFE by Universal raised questions about whether Bevan and Fellner would renew their deal or seek better terms elsewhere. They had been heavily courted by other studios but in the end were unwilling to leave behind their company and its slate of upcoming projects, all now owned by U. PFE Intl. to distrib Working Title�s films will be distributed internationally by PFE Intl., soon to be rebranded with a Universal label. Domestically, the company�s big-budget films will go through U, but given the uncertainty over the future ownership of both October and Gramercy Films, the fate of Working Title�s smaller films remains undecided. Meanwhile, Working Title is already in the midst of preparing Stephen Frears� adaptation of the Nick Hornby novel �High Fidelity,� starring John Cusack, for Disney. Disney and Universal have also agreed on a split-rights deal for the next Coen brothers movie, �Oh Brother, Where Art Thou,� starring George Clooney, which Working Title will produce.

K- I've started reading Correlli's Mandolin, it's very interesting.

Working Title is already in the midst of preparing Stephen Frears� adaptation of the Nick Hornby novel �High Fidelity,� starring John Cusack Didn't Frears do Dangerous Liaisons?

Didn't Frears do Dangerous Liaisons? Yes, so....

Good news...Working Title must start shooting BJD soon. I still see CF as a cert for MD, but Bridget herself, who knows?

Captain Corelli's Mandolin is a wonderful novel, but in some ways I'd rather it stayed as a book...I can picture the characters in my imagination, and I don't think any film version would them justice.

On Bethan's recommendation I read "Captain Corelli's Mandolin"; it is a brilliant novel and sorry, B. I must disagree..IMO it would make a touching film...talk about a romantic novel...And yes, I can see CF as Captain Corelli....hair dyed black, ,of course:-) ***** Thanks Karen for the Variety article.

Don't give too much on the book, I've just started it! I like it. Loved the The Duce chapter, lmao!

I picked up Captain Corelli's Mandolin about a month ago when I was in Firthland West (that's the book, Winter). Read about 4 chapters and it sits... Think I'd better make a concerted effort. ;-)

(that's the book, Winter). That's right! Now I feel I should follow suit...you think I'd have any difficulty tracing a copy?

And yes, I can see CF as Captain Corelli....hair dyed black, ,of course:-) I remember reading that Ewan McGregor was going to play him. I must confess, I could not get into CCM. My DH and lots of friends loved it but I could not join their enthusiasm so I don't have much feel for whether CF has been robbed:-)

Oh, Ewan McGregor :-( Must admit that despite my comments, a CF film version would have been very acceptable. Ewan McGregor just isn't Captain Corelli, just as Mel Gibson isn't Sydney Carton. But they're big Box Office. I shall stick to the book. Looks like the only hope of another romantic role for CF is in BJD!

I don't have much feel for whether CF has been robbed:-) The Antonio/Pelagia story is v-e-ry romantic, but a lot depends on the adaptation. On screen, it could be just another mawkish WW2 love story. And I always feel that depicting characters when they have aged is not convincing. I actually think the part should have gone to a bona fide Italian..I mean , there are actors in Italy! Or to an actor of Italian extraction (or an actor marriied to an Italian:-) )

I thought the love story between Kip and Hana in The English Patient was more important than the Katharine/Count Almasy relationship, and they dwindled Kip/Hana down to nothing!

I wholeheartedly agree. It's actually the primary love story in the novel, from what I remember.

Saw Michael Ondaatje yesterday btw...very nice man, interesting sense of humor and pretty near all the questions were about TEP!

Details, Karen! Where did you see him?

Re: CCMD , Antonio...I remember reading that Ewan McGregor was going to play him. Whaaaat? Burp, burp!!The guy should stick to Trainspotting and heroin...period. ****** Re: CCMD, It goes slowly at first ...maybe first 150 or so pages. After that pure bliss. Not just your usual romantic novel...v. much like Frederico Garcia Lorca's "100 Years of Solitude"(Almost said it in Spanish to impress Ben:-)It is inventive , compelling and funny. Stick with it..you will be rewarded.I promise. I think it won the Booker Prize in 1995. *** Yes K. pl. tell us more of Mr. Ondaatje's lecture I can see Juliette Binoche as Pelagia. And Albert Finney as Dr. Iannis

100Years of Solitude is not by Lorca...sorry.

Ewan McGregor as Antonio Corelli...thanks Evelyn for your burp reaction!!! You know, I've been feeling quite depressed about this. Almost spoils the book for me. EMcG is emphatically not, NOT "my" Antonio...he's completely WRONG for this role!

EMcG is emphatically not, NOT "my" Antonio...he's completely WRONG for this role! Think he'll play it with a Scottish-Italian accent?

100Years of Solitude is not by Lorca...sorry. Gabriel Garcia Marquez... and a wonderful book BTW. Brilliant writer.

(Winter)100Years of Solitude is not by Lorca...sorry. Gabriel Garcia Marquez... and a wonderful book BTW. Brilliant writer. Winter to the rescue.!!! Thanks. Was afraid the Mob Squad was going to come after me :-))))

WOT? Ewan McGregor as Antonio Corelli!!! Impossible! Is this absolutely confirmed? (Winter)100Years of Solitude is by Gabriel Garcia Marquez... and a wonderful book BTW. Brilliant writer. I am also a big fan.

I'd rather see Roberto Bergnini as Corelli. But it's "bums on seats" that matter, not keeping faith with the book. Sniff!!

From today's London Times re: Working Title/Universal merger: ....Other projects include High Fidelity, from Nick Hornby's novel, which will soon start shooting in Chicago, with John Cusack starring; Bridget Jones's Diary, which Helen Fielding has scripted with Andrew Davies; and Captain Corelli's Mandolin, adapted by Shawn Slovo. Looks like BJD and CCMD are a "go".

Or as they say in the business, "Green-lighted."

Well, if we know the director and "star" of Captain Corelli (am still depressed about the inappropriate choice of EMcGr..... will he keep his clothes on this time?), isn't it time that details of director/cast for BJD were announced.

I am sorry to get you all upset about EMcG. I might be wrong. I am fairly sure, though, that I read it in an article but it was some time ago, so maybe plans have changed.

Don't worry about it. It doesn't take much to get this group upset. ;-) Since I haven't gotten very far into Corelli's Mandolin, I haven't formed any opinions on who I would like to play the role; however, Ewan (not Elizabeth McGovern) wouldn't be the first to spring to mind.

LOL! Now Elizabeth McG - that would be an even more popular choice round here :-))

This is very strange in view of Evelyn's posting above from Sunday's Times, but quite by accident I picked up the Tatler magazine and there is an article in it which says that Working Titles has withdrawn plans to make the film Bridget Jones' Diary, who is right. Bethan have you had contact with Working Titles and if so can you clarify. Personally I shan't be sorry I couldn't see CF as Mark Darcy but it would still be nice to know for sure.

Ann, since the recent news about Handmade was on all the wire services and the Tatler (April issue I assume) went to print eons ago, I'd go with the entertainment news organizations' latest releases. I mean, why would they even mention BJD in talking about their latest deal with Universal if it they had abandoned plans to pursue it?

Oops, sorry, meant Working Title, not Handmade.

I actually rang Working Title about two weeks ago (before the news of the Universal deal) and asked about BJD and when it would be sceduled for release. They said that they hadn't started shooting yet (which means that they are doing it!) and mentioned the end of the year. Which I took to mean release date (although that's a very fast turnaround) as no shoot for a British film with exterior locations would surely start in December...has to be Spring/Summer. Ann, I like Mark Darcy, and with an Andrew Davies screenplay and world-wide distribution, this has to be a good role!

The article was really definite that they had cancelled plans to make the film but I agree that it could have been printed a while ago as it was the April issue, but would you ring them again Bethan in a few weeks time just to make sure. Although I am not sure about BJD I can't see anyone else playing MD and it would be nice to know that we have two projects to look forward to.

And when you ring them Bethan, please ask who are the actors. How could they have a release date in mind and no confirmed actors?

I keep on pressing respond instead of redisplay. Third time lucky! Was trying to say that I think his in his attributed comment re the Internet, he was objecting more to a perhaps unmwelcome encounter in a party with a boorish individual who seemed to know too much about him. Maybe he didn't like to be reminded about his schooldays! :-) He has never actually said that he objects to the websites (respectfully) dedicated to his work! BTW marvellous filming weather in Scotland at the moment...the hottest Easter for 100 years (allegedly!)

I give up ...should have been posted at #118. Not my day.

Spring Pledge Drive Terry will gratefully accept any small donation you can make to help keep the Spring out of the hole. No obligations, of course, but if you're able to help out, a check can be made out to The Spring and mailed to: The Spring Rt.2 Box 56r Cedar Creek, TX 78612 I will post this at the other topics, so bear with the repetition.

A very little tidbit about "High Fidelity" at the ain't it cool news site. Hardly meriting the large font size. http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=3381

High Fidelity starts shooting here in Chicago on the 19th.

Karen! Be on the lookout! Keep those eyes peeled for John Cusack! ;-)

I had read that there were posters up at a small record shop that said they needed extras for the movie. Went into three used "vinyl" shops (all within a few feet of each other) the other day, but no joy. Winter, dear, I always I have my eyes peeled for Cusack. So far have only run into William Devane at the grocery store. (hee hee) Am hoping to see Harrison Ford sitting on my front steps next month!

What's Harrison Ford filming?

It's called Random Hearts. Most of it apparently was filmed in DC, but now they're doing stuff here. Bonnie Hunt is in it and she plays a waitress. The restaurant where she works is the place next door to me. Manager of the restaurant told me about the story, had read the script. Said that Minnie Driver was in it as well, but the IMDb says Kirsten Scott Thomas. Who knows??

Please don't tell me Minnie Driver will be Harrison Ford's love interest. Kirsten Scott Thomas and Robert Redford was bad enough.

Michael Douglas and Gwyneth Paltrow was the worst...IMHO.

I'd be interested in a game of "The worst pairings ever"...Perhaps at 113 if Marcia agrees :-) I just saw "6 days 7 nights" and was appalled at Anne Heche/Harrison Ford. Don't these men ever grow too old to be cast as romantic interests?

---The problem is NOT that these men are no longer "sexy" as they age. To women of a certain age, they may be sexier than ever. Casting them as romantic leads is perfectly appropriate. The problem is that the mindfix in the entertainment business is that the only FEMALE that they can cast in a romantic lead must be under 35 (preferably under 30), nubile and knock-your-socks-off gorgeous. Any other actress may be an interesting character part, but certainly not sexy, and certainly not to be cast as a romantic lead. It's the past-it male's ideal sexual fantasy...and since it's mostly the past-it males who run things, we get these absurd pairings!!

The problem is that the mindfix in the entertainment business is that the only FEMALE that they can cast in a romantic lead must be under 35 (preferably under 30), nubile and knock-your-socks-off gorgeous Precisely and I'll bet we all agree with you. What horrifies me even more is when the role calls for an older actress (as in As Good as it Gets) and they still cast a younger actress. Which is what I'm afraid will happen with the casting of Bridget.

(Gi)I'd be interested in a game of "The worst pairings ever"...Perhaps at 113 if Marcia agrees :-) Oh yes, please do! And I will think up one to start them off. New listing on 113. Thank you Dear Gi! I was at a loss to know what would reinvigorate the old site.

(KJArt)---The problem is NOT that these men are no longer "sexy" as they age. The problem is that ...the only FEMALE that they can cast in a romantic lead must be under 35 (preferably under 30) I expressed myself incorrectly. I don't mean older men aren't sexy...What bothers me is the pairings in themselves, and also that older men get cast in parts that seem to me demand a younger actor, while the women are always young (sometimes too young). In the case of 6 days 7 nights, at least she wasn't the usual useless screaming girl, but did a lot of work!

(KJArt) and since it's mostly the past-it males who run things, we get these absurd pairings!! Yeah. And think about Harrison Ford and....oh my, who was that girl in...what was that film again?? Oh yes, Julia Ormond in Sabrina. Ormond is great but the pairing of the two really was near pedophilia, disgusted me. The lovely young girl and the old man again. And as a model for everybody on how things should be or at least could be (="men can not possibly love women of their own age"), it�s seriously deranged, downright age racism. I remember somebody wished that Colin would be cast as the professor in the Pygmalion but that�s actually one of the coarsest girl & daddy roles. I wish he�s not going into that sort of stuff but probably he is because romantic scripts just tend to be like that....don�t tell me MLSF is one of these too? What�s Irene Jacob�s age?!

(Elena) And think about Harrison Ford and...Julia Ormond in Sabrina. Ormond is great but the pairing of the two really was near pedophilia, disgusted me. Anyone familiar with the original stage play? I ask this because the first movie version of Sabrina starred Humphrey Bogart (old and seriously out-of-date for the 1950s, boolah boolah type) and Audrey Hepburn at age 25. Bogie was 55 at the time. Actually I didn't think the Ford-Ormand thing was as bad as many others. Harrison still looks good to me. don�t tell me MLSF is one of these too? What�s Irene Jacob�s age?! Only from the standpoint of her being afianced to Malcolm McDowell, who is 55 now. I'd guess Irene Jacob to be about 30. Older men and younger women is an age-old theme and has prevailed because of what KJ said, "men control the industry" and it's their fantasy. Thank goodness, "Reckless" is on TV tonight (older woman and younger man with nice ass!) and I am taping it for posterity (no pun intended). ;-D

(Elena) I wish he�s not going into that sort of stuff but probably he is because romantic scripts just tend to be like that....don�t tell me MLSF is one of these too? What�s Irene Jacob�s age?! Now wait a minute...Colin's not that old! ;-) He can still be paired with a 25-year old and it not be outlandish. I agree with you, Elena, about Harrison Ford and Julia Ormond though as Karen points out, it was even worse with Bogie and Hepburn. Marcia's got a new list on this topic going at 113.

Irene Jacob is 30-ish (looks younger). Mary Elizabeth Mastranonio must be slightly older than Colin, and of course Michelle Pfeiffer and Jessica Lange were older than him. So he's more the younger man! "Sabrina" was on UK TV tonight...I really couldn't be bothered to watch it! I rarely like re-makes.

(bethan)I rarely like re-makes. That's what nearly kept me from watching yet another remake of Pride and Prejudice. But, I did. And, here I am =D Things like that haunt me when I tend to dismiss remakes. Of course, if I know the actors they are talking about in the remake and do not care for them...it is much easier. Still...!

(KarenR)Thank goodness, "Reckless" is on TV tonight (older woman and younger man with nice ass!) Wasn't it goood?! Robson Green is quite droolworthy (not as much as ODB but droolworthy all the same). Bring on the sequel!

(Elena)I remember somebody wished that Colin would be cast as the professor in the Pygmalion but that�s actually one of the coarsest girl & daddy roles. I wish he�s not going into that sort of stuff (Heide)Now wait a minute...Colin's not that old! ;-) He can still be paired with a 25-year old Pygmalion is girl-and-daddy in the sense that the man is superior, and he "makes" the girl, she's his work. Is that what you mean, Elena? In that sense, it can be very male chauvinism, while of course Higgins does not need to be much older than Liza. It can also be taken in other perspectives , like class differences, ecc, and Higgins is so obvious in his egotism that I think it is much less hurtful of women than other, more subtle, stories. Anyway, in the original Bernard Shaw's play, Liza does leave Higgins in the end. (Karen)Harrison still looks good to me. He looks alright with his clothes on :-)

(Gi) In that sense, it can be very male chauvinism Pygmalion of course is a very chauvinistic play and what I�m thinking of is the version I saw recently in which Leslie Howard played Higgins and is considerably older than the actress, don�t know her name. That old movie is dreadful, the girl is put into a role of a complete clown because of her social class and sex....and he can love her only after he has made her the kind of creature that he wants her to be. Yuch! With plastic surgery the result would�ve been ever better!! Anyway, what I�d hate (and what would ruin my admiration) would be to see Colin in a movie that I�d find chauvinistic, and of course the sort of age racism that we have been discussing here is one form of it. I really wish that he has enough sense to keep away from such films.....btw, I haven�t seen Playmaker and I have the idea that it�s pretty chauvinistic actually!

Sometimes a "little" perspective helps... :) On Pygmalion, from my Halliwell's: "Despite 1964's My Fair Lady, this straight version of Shaw's play, directed by Anthony Asquith and Leslie Howard, remains the most satisfying and perfectly cast: Howard as Higgins, Wendy Hiller as Eliza, Scott Sunderland as Pickering and Wilfred Lawson as Dolittle. Produced by Gabriel Pascal, photographed by Harry Stradling, with music by Arthur Honegger, it remains one of cinema's most civilized comedies." Shaw's plays revolutionized the Victorian stage. This one, written in 1913, satirizes English class attitudes. He based on the Greek myth of Pygmalion, the king of Cyprus, who was also a sculptor, who fashioned a statue of a beautiful woman and, by praying to Aphrodite, was able to bring her (Galatea) to life and then married her. Through the ages, men have fantasized about creating the perfect woman. In the Victorian age, when class was everything, Higgins' transformation of Eliza into a lady who would be accepted by society was a major coup for him professionally. This version did not have the happy ending that was done for My Fair Lady. What does that say to you? Playmaker's male-female relationship is not chauvinism because of gender. It is a master-slave or teacher-pupil type thing. It is power and authority, not necessarily having anything to do with gender.

Forgot the most important thing! We don't watch Playmaker for the story (unless you want to laugh). Colin is at his most adorable as Michael, the very clean Michael ;-D

I will jump in and say that Robson Green looks better with his clothes off, whereas, CF definitely looks better with his clothes on. Just stoking the fire, girls;) hee hee. Yes, bring on the sequel!

(Karen) It is power and authority, not necessarily having anything to do with gender. Haven�t seen Playmaker so I can�t really say if it�s chauvinistic or not, I only know about that teacher-pupil thing and that the pupil (I�ve understood) is naked or almost in the movie poster!? Anyway, I feel that power and authority have always a lot to do with gender. Naturally one or two cases never prove anything but if there is a tradition of certain type of thing like that superiority is usually a male quality in movies, or that it is usually the man who looks at the woman and she has to please that look, you can see a trend and call it an ism, or even a social pattern that�s reinforced in art....! What I mean is that it�s never JUST a teacher-pupil relationship or an upper class- lower class thing, it�s always a male-female thing as well, and the reason why the woman usually isn�t the authority with power is called chauvinism. (Laura)CF definitely looks better with his clothes on Why? Tell me more:-)

(Laura)CF definitely looks better with his clothes on Actually, it was Robson's puppy dog eyes that got me (he was looking pretty wounded all through Episode 3). There was only one naked butt shot that I recall. I think Colin's taller and thinner (conjuring up images from "The Advocate") but I didn't see too much of a difference. And Colin (as of mid-March, anyway) has more hair (on his head)!!

(Elena) the pupil (I�ve understood) is naked or almost in the movie? Oh yes, Elena but the teacher is too ;-). Which goes back to Karen's comments as to why we tolerate watching this film. Sorry Elena, you actually had a serious discussion going but I just can't get that mental picture of Ross Talbert out of my mind (Michael's pretty cute too);-).

Robson Green vs. Colin Firth I think we need a cheek-to-cheek comparison. ;-) In another PBS/A&E (who remembers) show, where RG was a bodyguard to the Prince of Wales and it was a Cyrano-type story, he's au naturel there too! In Playmaker, there is a reversal of roles. The woman gains the upperhand, the power a little later on. We all remember this turn of events and what poor Michael has to do!

don�t tell me MLSF is one of these too? What�s Irene Jacob�s age?! If Irene Jacob is 30....I'm 50!!That doll has mileage. And Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio is 40. They paired him with some ole broads. **** (BTW...a reminder....let's use role names and not actual names when referring to anatomy:-) Ahem....I'll put Courteois' and Ross Talbert's butt up against anybody's (pun not intended).

Karen, there is no comparison in the body parts between Colin & Robson Green, Colin wins hands down as he does in the acting department, Robson always wears the same expression whatever he is in, sorry to get on my soap-bos about Robson Green buts thats all we hear over here, he is very popular over here but not with me . He was in something called Rhinocerous on Sunday which was on at the same time as the BAFTA's and got 10million views approx compared to 4.5 millions approx. for The Bafta's but I person lly can't understand it, I feel as if I would like to wipe the smile off his silly face and as I say in every role he plays himself, that's not acting. Oh dear I have gone on a bit, I apologise to RG fans.

soap-box not soap-bos

(Karen)We all remember this turn of events and what poor Michael has to do! Now some people actually like this. Only kidding, Mr. President! Hee hee. Robson Green has a better body than Colin Firth. It's more toned, in shape, curvier. Yes, he doesn't have the height, but ah, well you can't win'em all! Karen, the PBS movie was Prince of Hearts w/ Tara Fitzgerald playing an American (really bad one at that!). What do I mean about CF looking good with clothes on? Hmmmm... I prefer CF w/ clothes on rather than off. Even he states the same thing!!! Remember when he say something like who'd want to see me in those Arsenal boxers!!! Ha, but Robson Green, he could wear nothing and make me simply happy! CF just doesn't have the "gorgeous" body as does Robson Green, doesn't make CF less of a person. {Just means he doesn't work out;)} Now has anyone read Tiffany Trott's Dating Diary. I found it on the ET, it was a column just before BJD and I tried sending it to Karen, did it work???? It was interesting, not as clever nor witty as BJD, but it seems as tho a regular gal did it. It's now out in book form.

(Evelyn) If Irene Jacob is 30....I'm 50!!That doll has mileage. And Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio is 40. According to the IMDb, Jacob was born in '63 and is 35, but that's OK, her character is supposed to be engaged to Malcolm McDowell, who is in his 50s. Now Mastrantonio was born in 1958, so she's slightly older than Colin by two years. Not all that significant. They paired him with some ole broads. They don't look so old, and I'm a very old broad by comparison! :) (BTW...a reminder....let's use role names and not actual names when referring to anatomy:-) Actually, within this context, it's OK to use real names. :) Now, this is really where we need some side-by-side Snappies! (AnnW) there is no comparison in the body parts between Colin & Robson Green, Colin wins hands down as he does in the acting department As Laura says, they are very different body types. RG is short, compact and curvy. Definitely looks very buff. Colin on the other hand is tall and lanky. Agreed that Colin wins hands down in the acting and overall looks department. RG is not a great actor, though he has incredibly blue eyes and good-looking bum, but that's about it! :) (Laura) the PBS movie was Prince of Hearts Thanks, I'm always forgetting the name of this one and I liked it, a combination Cyrano story and political satire. Even he states the same thing!!! Remember when he say something like who'd want to see me in those Arsenal boxers!! His usual self-deprecating comment. Besides, most guys would say the same thing. :) Tiffany Trott's Dating Diary...I tried sending it to Karen, did it work???? It was interesting, not as clever nor witty as BJD, but it seems as tho a regular gal did it. It's now out in book form. I could read what you copied and sent me via email, but couldn't get to it via the link, nor could I find it by searching at the Telegraph site. What section was it in and when (date)? You are right, though, definitely not as clever as BJD. A second-rate ripoff. This week's Time magazine reviews three new books about the life of 30-something single women. The title of the article is "Beyond Bridget Jones: Three new novels dig deeper into single life." Apparently, these are not clones nor ripoffs, but you do remember that Time magazine hated BJD. The last paragraph: "Defenders of Bridget Jones brook no complaints about its portrayal of the single condition because the book, after all, is a comedy. But there was something unsettling--something that drained the satire--in Bridget's pursuit of a boyfriend. It was was though she wanted one not because falling in love is a signature experience of humanity but because she saw a man as a necessary accoutrement of urban life, like a Prada bag. Her bane Stateside compatriots aren't nearly as abs rd--or maybe they just have better shrinks."

Karen, I've read all of the Tiffany Trott's Dating Diary. I can't believe the link doesn't work??? I have it bookmarked. this is the link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=000772005502828&rtmo=awHeRbaL&atmo=99999999&pg=/et/97/11/8/tltif08.html It will bring you up to I believe the last diary entry, but above it has all of them that you click on to get one, two, etc..., they were interesting, could've been very good. It had a huge following one and was brought back by popular demand when it was "cancelled". At the end of the run, it said if someone else wants to take over the column to send a note to the editor. It does leave one just hanging. I found on Amazon.com/uk that they have it in book form with a couple of reviews, although, most of the reviews do say to stick with BJD. and speaking of BJD, has the new book come out yet, it IS April;) !!!!

Now, that link worked. Interesting how BJD started right after this one. Will read the other parts later. Thanks.

(Ann) and as I say in every role he plays himself, that's not acting Sounds like he has the "George Clooney Syndrome." 'Reckless' is the only thing I've seen RG in. (Laura) Robson Green has a better body than Colin Firth. He has a different body type. Long and lanky can still be appreciated. Variety is the spice of life!

Long and lanky can still be appreciated. Variety is the spice of life! ] for someone who IS long and lanky, I hope I can be appreciated:p; However, it could be that I just prefer men of the Robson Green type??? His blue eyes just mesmerize me. Piercing blue eyes!! oooh!!!

(Laura)Robson Green has a better body than Colin Firth. It's more toned, in shape, curvier. Yes, he doesn't have the height, but ah, well you can't win'em all! Hey , Laura....."size matters" :-) ***** (evelyn) They paired him with some ole broads. (Karen)They don't look so old, and I'm a very old broad by comparison! Don't take it personal....Don't you know? "Present company is always excluded."..If you don't believe me...take a look at Sabine's picture of the Donmar Dolls!! Anyway Karen...everyone knows you're a Natalie Wood look-a-like":-) I got pissed at MEMastrantonio because she gave an interview in last month's Movieline...all about a new movie she is shooting and never even mentioned MLSF. Gwynnie was more magnanimous.

Personally I prefer brown expressive mesmeric eyes that speak that say so much !

(Laura)His blue eyes just mesmerize me. Piercing blue eyes!! oooh!!! Could you be a fan of Mel Gibson's eyes as well? ;-)

Natalie Wood look-a-like":-) That would be *after* she washed up on the beach, right? ;-p I got pissed at MEMastrantonio... From looking her up on the IMDb, I found out she was born in Lombard, IL - western suburb of Chicago. I think I had to go there once???

(Evelyn).... got pissed at MEMastrantonio... (Karen)From looking her up on the IMDb, I found out she was born in Lombard, IL - western suburb of Chicago. She is also the wife of Pat O'Connor, Director of C of F. And, also AMITC.

I don't think height and "size" have much correlation, Evelyn!!!! OR else I would hope so. And I think Karen does look like Natalie Wood, when she was alive, not when she washed up on the beach. (that was bad!!)

Waterstone's has the new BJ book listed as: "BJ and the Seven Men" hardback 12.UKP to be published in April 99. I called Waterstone's in Islington and the person in charge will find out exactly when it will be in. Will call tomorrow. Stay tuned....

BJ and the Seven Men? Oh dear!!!

Amazon.co.uk has it listed as "BJ I Will survive" paperback 6.99UKP to be published 23 April 1999 by Picador' ISBN 0330367358 I'll go with amazon...they are seldom wrong.

Hee hee, Evelyn, I did the same thing!! Bridget Jones: I Will Survive Helen Fielding Our Price: �6.99 Category(ies): Literature & Fiction Paperback (23 April, 1999) Picador; ISBN: 0330367358 Learn more about 1-ClickSM ordering Availability: We expect to be able to find this title for you within 4-6 weeks. However, please note that titles occasionally go out of print or publishers run out of stock. Amazon.co.uk Sales Rank: 4,634 hahahahah!

I suggest we coordinate orders to save on the exorbitant shipping!

Bridget Jones: I Will Survive Helen Fielding Our Price: �6.99 This price seems very low. That's what I paid for my BJD paperback in the UK last summer.

(Laura) Robson Green has a better body than Colin Firth. (AnnW)...no comparison...Colin wins, hands down... Girls, girls! Now remember, there's no accounting for taste. Laura faults Colin for not having looked like he "works out". Well, I vote with AnnW on this one. You may have the bulgy weight-lifters, Laura, but unless they're lumberjacks or construction workers, they look absolutely grotesque to me...(they look like they're perpetually eager for a punch-up, which does not appeal). I prefer Colin's clean natural (and lithe) look...it's more than sufficient for the occasional sword-fight, horseback ri e, or swim; aesthetically it's a great part of the drool factor (but not necessarily the admiration factor...it's the acting for that...) To my artist's eye he has several characteristics that seem positively made in heaven. And even though--overall--I still think he looks like he was assembled by a committee, I only find that endearing. Nevertheless each part is perfectly proportioned within itself. Yum! But that's MY taste!

(KJArt) And even though--overall--I still think he looks like he was assembled by a committee LOL! What ever is your meaning? Much as I admire ODB's talent and *other* attributes, I will admit there was a time when he looked too thin. Those Levi's he wore in ATA positively swam on him. Did anyone else notice this? At the time I wondered if he was bouncing so much from country to country (London-Rome-LA) that he forgot to eat!

Laura faults Colin for not having looked like Geez, nothing like having words put in my mouth!!! I don't fault him for not working out. I was saying that he doesn't work out. Obviously Robson Green has some sort of physical workout (not horizontal either). RG DOES have a better body. End of subject!

But he is too short!!

"Better" is subjective. :-) To each, his/her own. How I wish! ;-)

So what if he's short??? Karen's short but I don't dislike her for it? (Karen, just using you as an example only;))

That didn't sound good actually. I mean that because Karen is shorter than me, I would never not like her because of that. I like Karen very much indeed! She's a great person. and I bet Robson Green is a great person too! as is CF also!

I like my hero's to be taller and gorgeous and with the most wonderful speaking voice in the whole world.

a nd Karen is not a man!!

and Karen is not a man!! LOL! Yeah Ann, you said it! Besides, it�s the *something* in Colin that is simply unique. Hard to beat that one, Laura? :-)

Unique??? He's a man. He goes to the bathroom just like you and me. He brushes his teeth and washes his face. He probably yells and screams like the best of us. Idolizing someone to certain degree is well, weird.

Ann and KJ , some great comments. It's like comparing the chocolate they use on Reese's peanut butter cups with Lindt excellence chocolate. One is rough and kind of unfinished, the other is quality, smooth and satisfying. Know which one I would rather nibble on!!! Those of us who remember RG in his "Soldier Soldier" days and as a sometime MOR crooner, could never find him fascinating in the least. As he is a millionaire, maybe it is his "wad " rather than his buns of steel that are the attraction. He certainly doesn't get paid due to his acting talents. Those of us seeing our DB on stage know we have been in the oresence of a phenominal talent. Off for my chocolate ration!!!

OK OK it's "presence"!!!

and phenomenal!!

(Laura) Karen is shorter than me just like you and me than I & like you and I!! tsk tsk ;-) He goes to the bathroom just like you and me Not really, unless you're hiding something from me. ;-) I consider myself fairly versatile. Sometimes I like cheapo chocolate candies, although I really prefer the good stuff. I can turn down the cheapo stuff when I want to, but rarely the good stuff. Colin is definitely the good stuff, to be savored and appreciated despite the calories! Nothing wrong with looking at buns of steel, but I don't confuse them with acting ability. ;-)

(Ann) I like my hero's to be taller and gorgeous and with the most wonderful speaking voice in the whole world. I couldnt agree more :) (it also helps if they can sing to you... but if they've only got the first three, i wont complain)

(Laura) Idolizing someone to certain degree is well, weird. OK I admit I�m weird enough to think that one can be unique in spite of being a man, using the bathroom, brushing one�s teeth etc.!!!....To be honest, I haven�t given much thought to these things in Colin�s case, you�ve opened my eyes to reality Laura :-))

Entering into the fray, I have to say that Robson Green plays the same part in everything he does (macho Geordie hero gets girl) and is fortunate that both the BBC and ITV seem to fall over backwards to offer him a never ending series of vehicles for his rather limited acting talent. But it's made him very, very rich. He's 5'6", apparently! I like tall and lean, although I have to agree with you, Eileen, that in ATA Colin really looked too thin and in need of some tender loving care and dollops of pasta!

Speaking of buns and their desirability, everyone who thinks his are less worthy of Drool than others should go back and look at the Turkish Bath scene from TA or I'll send Karen one to post...delightful!

What other little Snappies do you have squirreled away, Marcia? (one eyebrow is now raised....)

Hey I'm 5'6 and considered tall;)

(Laura) He goes to the bathroom just like you and me (Karen) Not really, unless you're hiding something from me. ;-) Ditto! Laura, do you have something to tell us? 8-o I've got images of "The Crying Game" in my head! ...I'm kidding! KIDDING! Idolizing someone to certain degree is well, weird. Then I must be wierd.

5'6" is tall for a girl, short for a man!!

These days, 5'6" is more average for a girl. idolizing to a certain degree is well, weird Nope, you did say *certain* None of us goes overboard or subscribes to stalkerish activities. What we do here is fun. Not weird at all. Now if we were idolizing a serial killer, that would be weird. Colin is deserving of adoration for his talent (and his looks aren't anything to sneeze about).

Here, here and isn't that why these boards are called Drool because we love to drool over this man, nothing wrong with that. Aishling, as you were the first to post the report about JE, does that mean that you are a fellow UK drooler, I do hope so as we are in the minority here, so please keep posting and oh yes welcome, sorry.

Karen, I have just enough of them salted away to prove my point about TDB. He is so exquisite, is he not. I am also 5'6" and out here that is sky-scraping.

Welcome, Aishling. (KJArt) And even though--overall--I still think he looks like he was assembled by a committee (Eileen) LOL! What ever is your meaning? I mean the various parts don't seem to quite match to others, as if 2 "man-kits" were used but the pieces got mixed up (Incidentally, I'd like to see the other one, too!):) We all focus on the broad shoulders, the long, thick neck, the tapering LONG waist...the torso is beautifully assembled. But hadn't you also noticed that the arms are a bit too slender for that torso, the hands (beautiful though they are) a bit to big for the arms--and for the face, which is about a half-size too small for the neck, tc. Everything is beautiful, but slightly out of proportion to everything else (I won't even begin on those thighs, which shall remain nameless!!!) as if someone else took charge after the one who had started the project had to leave to answer the phone, or something! I can remember several people groaning when the term "burly" was applied to our young hero in that article done just after Lost Empires was aired (1986)...but I can understand the illusion. And his appearance in ATA is an excellent example: coming at you he looks broad and bulky, with those wide shoulders and broad chest. But it's not deep--when he turns sideways, he practically disappears!!!;) So I just lovingly think that there was a slipup somewhere--more likely it was done on purpose...we m stn't have perfection, now, must we?! That might go to his level head!!! (which, though a bit out of proportion to the rest, is still the best part of him, what?) All the more reason to admire AND drool! But, as I said before, MY taste and MY perception, which as Karen reminds us is purely subjective!

Nick Hornby will be at the following locations for booksigning: Wed, Apr 21 7:30 PM New York, NY Barnes & Noble 4 Astor Place (212-420-1322) Sat, Apr 24 7:30 PM Dayton, OH Books & Co. 350 E. Stroop Road (937-298-6540) Sun, Apr 25 7:00 PM St. Louis, MO Left Bank Books 399 N. Euclid (314-367-6731) Tue, Apr 27 7:00 PM San Francisco, CA Booksmith 1644 Haight Street (415-863-8688) Bookwire doesn't show that AAB has come out in paperback yet. Only the hard cover is shown.

(KJ)the torso is beautifully assembled.....but slightly out of proportion Sometimes an artist can sound about as merciless as a surgeon dissecting people! But I think you�ve probably found something essential about him as an actor, I mean the chameleon quality. He looks very different from different angles and depending on which of his features are emphasized by the makeup & clothing department. But I wish you could see him in real life! You�d forget everything about proportions. Like I�ve told you his beautiful body looked absolutely perrrrfect on stage, nothing was out of proportion......yes Laura, I�m being weird again but I just can�t help it:-))

Laura, how could you possibly be attracted to ODB's brother? There are no muscles there. I have never been attracted to the muscular types. Their brains suffer from it I'm afraid.

(Moon)I have never been attracted to the muscular types. Neither have I, and isn�t it a real turn-off to find a heap of body building gear lying about in a man�s apartment?!? I also can�t stand men who are aware of their good looks. I liked it that Colin obviously did nothing to his looks when he came down to the Donmar lobby from backstage, except possibly wiping some makeup off and changing for the nice worn clothes of his own. He seems to mind his looks amazingly little for an actor, dunno how that�s possible in such a highly looks-conscious job.

Excuse me ...may I digress for a minute to say that Waterstone's in Islington does not have any concrete news on the new BJ book...not even the title...only that the "new BJ book will be out in April '99." Big Deal!!We knew that in October. We better stick with Amazon. Thank you.... Now ,please continue with the discussion at hand.....

I phoned our local Waterstone's re BJD..the sequel (whatever the title is!). I was told that it should have come out at the end of last year and a first draft had been submitted, but there was some problem with the structure. I was told that there was no actual date for publication but it should be "soon" and news of this would certainly be in the papers. I'm wondering if they'll time it to coincide with the start of filming of the movie...good promotional tie-in. Re. the BJD movie. I noticed in today's Times an item about Working Title and a new film about the Manchester United and Matt Busby which hasn't been greenlighted yet, but they expect to start shooting later this year. What struck me was despite the fact that the screenplay wasn't complete, the greenlight not given, they still gave details of the cast (Liam Neeson, Robert Carlyle). Can't understand why they can't announce who is playing BJ and MD...they must know!!!! His body...one thing I'm in total agreement with Elena about, is that I can't stand any man who is too conscious of his looks. I'm sure a lot of actors spend a lot of time working out and preening in front of a mirror. And you can be fit without being muscular...a lot of athletes are lean (aerobic as opposed to anaerobic). I think if those thin arms suddenly acquired muscles, I'd be disappointed in him! Anyway, strength with vulnerabilty is a rather attractive combination!

Re: His Body... ...If a commitee put him together....they did one-helluva-job!!

--I never denied it!! Such an appealing combination, what? Perfection can be so boring, but he's perfect in the ways we want him to be. To repeat: yum!!

Isn't it great to be "Weird". It's even better to know we found each other to be weird together!!! Actually I was convinced that I was weird till I found thees boards. Long Live "Weirdos" ( of the drool kind).

Here, here!!

Ditto, Ann and Lizza! I watched 'Reckless-The Sequel' last night and noticed Robson's lack of height (and he is quite follicularly challenged, just like *sob* ODB :-( ). But I uphold my original comment that RG's body is not better than CF's--just different. Thanks for your 'committee' explanation, KJArt. I think of CF as just plain thin (too thin in ATA, part of which I watched on Encore Saturday night. Those jeans he wore in the making coffee scene were way big, but the back ones weren't so bad. And he looked ssoooo handsome in this film--its only redeeming quality!).

Whoops, that should read "black" ones, not "back" ones...not that I wasn't looking at his back!

(Eileen) ..not that I wasn't looking at his back! Needed more *front and back* in the garbage-y love scene IMO! ;-)

In earlier discussions on this board there was word play as to who would make a good BJ. I'm kinda late with my suggestion, however, we don't officially know who's going to get the role. I was wondering what do yout think of Julia Ormond. She's really classy and extremely beautiful and after reading the book I'm not sure she'd fit--it might be a total stretch. But, she's british and thritysomething and she's talented. Funny thing is she used to live in Hackney. I wonder if she knew CF.

Jana, I like JO, you're right, she could do it. All they need to do is to dye her hair. That Hackney artistic click is breaking up.

(Ann) Here! here! Isn't that "hear! hear!"?? (I know, picky, picky :-))

Well it won't be Kate Winslett...she's spending the summer filming "The Marquis de Sade" with Geoffrey Rush "described by insiders as a pornographic SIL" (do we really need this?!!) And I doubt if it will be GP...she must be overwhelmed with offers. But if it's a Universal production, it has to be someone currently bankable. Really dunno.

Of course, "Hear, Here"!! oh no "Hear,Hear" (got a lot on my mind including another trip to the Donmar with Eveleyn and Lizza.)

Julia Ormond is a TERRIBLE actress!!! UGH!!!! Nope, I hope for Claire Rushbrook, and I will not be swayed!!! Hee hee. On another note, I was a bit disappointed in Reckless the Sequel. I adored the first one, thought it funny, witty, sexy etc...this one left me feeling flat. I mean there were some funny moments. Michael Kitchen is just hysterical and a bit sexy, I must admit. And the woman who played the sister? Could she have enough hair???? Personally in my own opinion, I think when one reaches a certain age, shorter hair is called for. I didn't say short, just shorter. Okay enough of my ranting. Again, Claire Rushbrook! no ifs, ands or buts! ;-p

(Laura) Claire Rushbrook! no ifs, ands or buts! ;-p OK...but who is she?. And what's more if she's another unknown who will go to see her? Can't be a "no-name". Besides, I liked Julia Ormond in Semilla's Sense of Snow. But I think they are teaming her up with Richard Harris again in another film this summer.

And what's more if she's another unknown who will go to see her? ] we ALL will!!! Because we ALL love BJD!!! and if CF plays MD, then who cares if an unknown plays BJ. I seem to recall JE was a relative unknown when she took the role of EB.... Jesus, the abbreviations! LOL!

(Elena)Sometimes an artist can sound about as merciless as a surgeon dissecting people! Speaks an artist *and* surgeon: he looked very English to me :-). Tall, broad shouldered and thin...that's my experience of young English men. (Elena) isn�t it a real turn-off to find a heap of body building gear lying about in a man�s apartment?!? I shudder to imagine it! (Lizza) Isn't it great to be "Weird". It's even better to know we found each other to be weird together!!! I love it too!

Julia Ormond...too Audrey Hepburn-ish. I couldn't see her as BJ for the same reason I couldn't see GP. They each look too sophisticated (and are TOO YOUNG as Laura will surely point out). I thought Kate Winslet had the right kooky quality (also too young) and a bankable name (she's getting good reviews in 'Hideous Kinky' but the movie itself isn't). Who is Claire Rushbrook??

(Jana)Julia Ormond. She's really classy and extremely beautiful (Laura)Julia Ormond is a TERRIBLE actress!!! LOL! But the truth is of course that Julia Ormond is GREAT. End of discussion:-):-) But for the role as BJ, JO is too classy and too beautiful. I don�t know if I�ve read that book in another way than you guys but I didn�t get the idea that BJ is very classy let alone very beautiful. I mean, above all, she�s a great *character* but are there any great young character actresses in this world??.....Hmmm, good question.

Here is her IMDB profile: Plunkett & MaCleane (1999) .... Lady Estelle Spice World (1997) .... Deborah Under the Skin (1997) .... Rose Secrets & Lies (1996) .... Roxanne ... aka Secrets et mensonges (1996) (France) She is roughly early thirties; she put on weight and grew her hair long for Secrets & Lies, but in SpiceWorld, she had shoulder length hair and was very attractive! (she played Richard E Grant's assistant). I think she'd make a good BJ!

Uh, sorry that is Claire Rushbrooke's imdb!!

I feel for anyone whose credits include "Spice World" (that goes for Alan Cumming, too). Sorry, I can't place her. Does she have enough draw to carry this movie?? Unless they cast Rupert Everett as MD (gag, gag)!!

But Richard E. Grant was in "Spice World" too, and he's great! Bob Hoskins as well. (Yes, I admit it, I did see Spiceworld)

Just catching up on my favourite "weirdos", I am SURE I saw Claire Rushbrook in Cardiff earlier this year too. Only I didn't know her name, despite seeing S and L 3 times!!

(Laura)I seem to recall JE was a relative unknown when she took the role of EB.... But P&P was a Televison production. And I think at the time she was fairly well known in UK. (Brit fans...am I making this up?)People didn't pay 17 UKP to go see her.....(Folks, that is what a movie costs in London...roughly $17.). Even now, I don't think JE is a bankable star.It takes a lot of have star-wattage... **** And as far as those films that you quoted from IMDb on Claire Rushmore... ROTFLMAO. I would hate to be the producer trying to fund BJD.

JE was definitely an unknown in 1995! she made a few tv movies, nothing of much credit. she was probably more known for her stage work, and I recall people freaking out because JE is an American and she had a twang. She needed to be coached for the Regency period language. I read that somewhere, can't remember.

(Laura)..and I recall people freaking out because JE is an American and she had a twang. She needed to be coached for the Regency period language.I read that somewhere, can't remember. Now Laura....don't want be nasty...Jennifer Ehle went to the School of Speech and Drama in London before she did The Camomile Lawn for Sir Peter Hall...I hardly think she had a twang...but I never heard her. I never said,however, that JE is a bankable star that people (except me) will go to see...but either is Claire Rushmore:-)

Ann -does that mean you are a fellow UK drooler Yes it does. Like others have said before me, I never feel I have anything to add which hasn't been said. Also, I only have access to a computer at work and it isn't always that easy, hence the delay in replying to you. But, I am here and will dive in if and when the opportunity arises.

I'm not being nasty, Evelyn, I read it somewhere. They were freaking out because she's from North Carolina! Honestly!

(Winter) But Richard E. Grant was in "Spice World" too, and he's great! Bob Hoskins as well. I still feel for anyone whose credits include 'Spice World.' It has nothing to do with their talent. (Evelyn)I would hate to be the producer trying to fund BJD. Or the casting folks. Perhaps that's why the cast hasn't been announced.

I seem to recall Helen Fielding stating MOST VEHEMENTLY that an UNKNOWN MUST play Bridget Jones. I think if you have star power in the other vehicles (i.e leading man, supporting cast), IT WILL WORK and people will go see it. People will see it if there are unknowns because WE LIKE BJD. THE FULL MONTY had a bunch of relative unknowns, but they have since been propelled to stardom. (Robert Carlisle and Mark Addy and Emily Woof, specifically.) geez, I seem to recall a lot of things lately, if I can find proof of it, I will. But I'm not going to look very hard;-p

(Laura) THE FULL MONTY had a bunch of relative unknowns, but they have since been propelled to stardom. (Robert Carlisle and Mark Addy and Emily Woof, specifically.) Who's Emily Woof? :) As I've maintained since the beginning, HF probably has little control over the project. She sold it, she tried writing a screenplay, and they've brought in hired guns to help or to take it over completely. Given her lack of clout relative to other hugely successful pulp fiction authors, she couldn't possibly have negotiated creative control over this flick. That just MEO! And stop shouting! ;-o

(Laura)They were freaking out because she's from North Carolina! Honestly! Well, if you say honestly... what can I say?:-) ***** They said the same thing about GP playing EMMA. Now she's the nation's darling! Janeites are a difficult bunch to please.I" read "somewhere that they didn't like the bathtub scene either." Oh dear, can't remember where I read it":-)

I wasn't shouting, just proving a point!!! all caps can't always mean shouting. (that's stupid lingo ANYWAY!!!) :p Honestly!

(Laura) People will see it if there are unknowns because WE LIKE BJD I would venture a guess that "the money" (producers) don't see it this way. *We* loved BJD more because of the CF-Darcy link (at least I did) but there aren't enough of *us* to bring the degree of profit desired. They'll aim the picture towards everyone--those who read the book and those who didn't. Translating a successful book into a motion picture is always risky--especially one written in diary format, where the reader sees the character's direct thoughts. The only ways to get the same result in a movie is through voiceovers or when they address the audience directly (a la Ferris Bueller). Sometimes it just doesn't work! PS. CAPS = SHOUTING. Like it or not.

Actually, the P&P, CF connection really didn't do it for me. as I really didn't like MD! So I can't use that excuse! I'm difficult:)

Oh and I like Nick Hornby for himself and not because of the CF connection too!

Laura, "I read somewhere" that if you want to give emphasis to a word or phrase you put it between asterisks ;-)

Geez, everyone's a comedienne! *WILL DO!* ;)

Karen, Emily Woof, was in "This Year's Love" with JE., she played the Lesbian and is in the forthcoming adaption by Alan Bleasdale of Oliver Twist and has the role of Nancy which I had hoped would go to Jennifer.

Aishling, did you by any chance go to see Colin in 3DOR at the Donmar in March and if you didn't will you be going at the end of the year if it comes back again, albeit at another theatre and what did you think of him in SIL (so many questions so little time)

Ann, so many questions I didn't get to the Donmar but since delurking, I would love to go when and if 3DOR's comes back at the end of the year. Also, I am having to wait for the video to be released for SIL.

Finally, something about High Fidelity. Wonder what part she will play. This is from Variety (4/22/99): Sara Gilbert has been added to the cast of Disney�s �High Fidelity� for director Stephen Frears. She joins thesp John Cusack in the pic. Gilbert will next be seen in Samuel Goldwyn�s Morgan J. Freeman-helmed �Desert Blue� alongside Christina Ricci, Kate Hudson and Casey Affleck. Gilbert, best known for her role as an angst-ridden adolescent on the ABC sitcom �Roseanne,� recently wrapped the CBS pilot �The Next Big Thing,� for creator Brad Hall in which the thesp starred and produced.

Sara Gilbert of "Roseanne" fame??? She could NOT play Laura, she's too young! Maybe the singer??? Hmmmm.

She DOES have that Susan Dey look about her...;-)

She DOES have that Susan Dey look about her...;-) ] No, she doesn't;) I'm at a loss!

It's the eyes...they both have that 'half-asleep' or heavily drugged look in them.

(Evelyn) Janeites are a difficult bunch to please. I read somewhere that they didn't like the bathtub scene either. What?!?! Obviously they have NO appreciation for the finer things in life. ;)

SB, I am sure they *must* have had some other P&P production in mind. Surely No One in their right minds would object to that lovely bit of artilfice we enjoyed so much! It was essential to the story line to the effect that he admired her livliness (while we admired his ... !)

I had a problem with the tub scene, the footman arrived too quickly with the bathrobe!

Sorry I'm a bit late, but SARA GILBERT?!?!? I cannot imagine what part she could possibly play in High Fidelity (not Laura, please not Laura). I adored this book and will be quite depressed if the Hollywood types ruin it. I will have to pin my hopes on John Cusack who rarely puts a foot wrong.

She could be Marie, the singer. There are all those "former" loves of his life, who might be shown in flashback when he was younger because she is definitely too young to play Laura.

(Jana)I will have to pin my hopes on John Cusack who rarely puts a foot wrong Amen to that. (Karen) There are all those "former" loves of his life, who might be shown in flashback If this were true...How does one get audition for such a part?!?! ;-D

How does one get audition for such a part?! Ooops! I meant, "How does one get to audition..."

Apropos to the above discussion, I read in the Sunday paper (May 2) that Catherine Zeta-Jones leaves for Chicago in about a month to star in 'High Fidelity' with John Cusack. The snippet did not specify which role she would play, but it seems reasonable to assume it's Laura. Which begs the question: would any man *ever* leave her? For Sara Gilbert, no less?? Sara can't be playing the singer--must be one of the flashback girlfriends. Or the screenplay is very different from the book...

Amendment: I know he doesn't leave Laura, she leaves him...in his misery he finds himself attracted to Marie...in any event, I can't see Sara as Marie.

John Cusack and Catherine Zeta-Jones seem oddly paired. She looks like she could eat him alive. He always seemed so short, small and boyish to me. I'm sure NH would love a night out with CZ-J.

He's about 6'2" Just saw him on Letterman about a week ago, before Pushing Tin opened. He just doesn't stand straight! Eileen, in what Sunday paper was this mentioned?

There was an interview with Catherine ZJ in the LA Times on Friday that said she was doing a cameo in High Fidelity as John Cusack's former girlfriend. The article specifically mentioned that now she can pick and choose her roles a bit more and can even do interesting cameos without losing momentum (or something like that), so I took that to mean she was his old college girlfriend, not Laura. You know the woman who dumped him in college and he pined for her ever after, and then when he finally met up wi h her again she was kind of odd? I pictured that ex-girlfriend as kind of a nutty, barracuda type and I think CZJ will do a good job with that. But I still don't know who is going to be Laura (and am praying that Sara Gilbert gets no bigger part than Marie!)

Oh yes, she'll be Charlie--his great love from university. She lives a ritzy, arty life and has Rob over for the cocktail party. She's supposed to be gorgeous. Aside from the minor detail that she was supposed to be blonde, but what the hey, they've changed everything else. I can see Sara Gilbert as Marie though.

Oh yes, she'll be Charlie Mystery solved. I can see Sara Gilbert as Marie though I can't, unless she's gone through a metamorphosis since 'Roseanne' ended (which is possible).

Didnt Sara Gilbert go to Harvard or Yale (or something impressive) after Roseanne? I might be totally wrong- never been a Roseanne fan, and didnt keep up with any of the actors on the show.

Yes-- she went to Yale, though I'm not sure whether or not she graduated.

Question: Do these schools have lower admission standards for child actors? ;-)

Shall we rename this the Nick Hornby page;) Any news on the New BJD book? I have coworker going to London in June, already have her staked out on buying the book if it's been published.

Thanks, Jana. Your deduction makes sense. I can't get over how trampy CZJ looks these days. She was quite beautiful in Out of the Blue but I've yet to see a recent photo of her that makes her look anything but hard.

CZJ must be doing something right. 'Entrapment' was #1 in US box office last weekend and it has received some bad reviews (Newsweek trashed it). I think it has something to do with that butt shot when she slides under the lasers ;-P (Karen) Question: Do these schools have lower admission standards for child actors? ;-) Do they have any admission standards for child actors? Well, Jodie Foster went to Yale (that strikes me as appropriate), Brooke went to Princeton, etc. Anything for publicity. (Laura) Shall we rename this the Nick Hornby page We go where the action is. Hey, maybe CZJ will be cast as BJ?! (Gag, sputter...)

CZJ must be doing something right. 'Entrapment' was #1 in US box office last weekend and it has received some bad reviews It's not CZJ. Sadly, I think the bombardment of ads over the last few months did the trick. People will flock to see a root-canal, if it's advertised enough.

(winter) It's not CZJ. Sadly, I think the bombardment of ads over the last few months did the trick. People will flock to see a root-canal, if it's advertised enough. Oh too true!!! Personally, I thought CZJ was TERRIBLE in OOTB. I haven't seen Zorro, so I can't really say if she wasn't very good. But she is getting away from her Welsh roots! Now, is Sean Connery -- Welsh or Scottish? I saw About a Boy in paperback! $12. Any news on the new BJD book? Anything??????? Evelyn, are you okay? Were you near the tornadoes?

Laura, Sean Connery is Scotish :) (now there's a man i'd like to see in a kilt!)

CZJ was very beautiful and sweet in Mask of Zorro. I'd seen her before only in a terrible mini-series about Catherine the Great, and found her "trampy" too. As for "Entrapment", most people will probably go see it for Sean Connery. My, has *he* aged beautifully!

(Gi) As for "Entrapment", most people will probably go see it for Sean Connery The women will, yes, but the men? My DH wants to see it...and he's not necessarily a SC fan. (Winter) Sadly, I think the bombardment of ads over the last few months did the trick. People will flock to see a root-canal, if it's advertised enough. You're right, Winter. As long as there are special effects. Witness 'The Matrix.' Laura, there was discussion a while ago about the new BJD book. Check out 118 (I think that's where it was--anyone else remember?

(Laura) Personally, I thought CZJ was TERRIBLE in OOTB. As I recall, you hardly watched any of OOTB...30 minutes?? I haven't seen Zorro, so I can't really say if she wasn't very good. And you're not going to comment anyway? ;-) But she is getting away from her Welsh roots!\ So?? That's her call. She decided she wanted to be a big movie star and now it's going that way. I just read the scripts are flying in. We really have to be less parochial about this. For all you know, she may speak Welsh at home all the time. To whom, who know? ;-)

Why would the new BJD book be discussed on 118? Why did I set up this page?

(Laura)Evelyn, are you okay? Were you near the tornadoes? Tornado two miles away...I was in the basement. I am fine, thank you. And thanks to all who sent me emails. (Laura) Personally, I thought CZJ was TERRIBLE in OOTB. I liked her in OOTB. Good chemistry between those two....and those tongues!!

Evelyn, I am so happy that you are okay!!! YEAH. Karen, I did watch OOTB with you. It was the one where the wife tried to off herself that I didn't finish.

Anyone know if CZJ is 100% Welsh? I suppose, nowadays, you can't say anyone is 100% anything. But I'm just wondering about the origins of "Zeta." Sounds Greek to me (and I don't mean that in the figurative sense).

Precisely, winter, Zeta is Greek. That is actually her middle name. She hyphenated it with her last name to make herself sound more exotic than Catherine Jones. I believe she said that was her Greek grandmother's name, Zeta. I did watch OOTB with you. It was the one where the wife tried to off herself that I didn't finish. OK, how did OOTB end? ;-) Didn't I make you a copy of DBS?

It ended with CF getting a mouth infection;) From Cathy Tyson! hardy har har! CZJ leaves the CF I forget why.

It ended with CF getting a mouth infection;) From Cathy Tyson! hardy har har! CZJ leaves the CF I forget why. Remember I got a case of the giggles when CZJ notices the white stuff on his tongue? hee hee

...and you singled CZJ out for being bad? You've already mentioned why CZJ leaves CF. ;-) Oops, her name isn't hyphenated.

CF and CZJ together??? How did I miss that movie? Took my boys to see Zorro and they liked her.:-D

(Laura) Why would the new BJD book be discussed on 118? Why did I set up this page? Why are we discussing 'High Fidelity' and 'OOTB' here? You just gotta go with the flow...

You just gotta go with the flow... There is no flow!

Sure there is. Great minds are entitled to digress, don't you think?

Sure there is. Great minds are entitled to digress, don't you think? um, no comment? ;p

Then as hostess of this topic, I have no doubt you'll set it right again. Did you find the discussion you were looking for at 118? BTW, did you enjoy your date, 'Dr. Laura?' ;-P

BTW, did you enjoy your date, 'Dr. Laura?' ;-P Oh yeah!! But let me tell you reading about oneself is odd. NO, I have heard nothing about BJD, I've checked Amazon.com/UK and it's listed with no name. Odd. Then as hostess of this topic, I have no doubt you'll set it right again. I've been trying, but everyone else wants to talk about Nick Hornby, which is cool with me, I adore him. but I just want some info on the new BJD book. Anyone, if you have any and all information, could you please pass it along. I'm getting to the point where I might call Picador and find out what's going on!!!

From the Independent (courtesy of AnneR): MYRIAD ADMIRERS of Bridget Jones, the chronically single, self-improving, wine- drenched lovelorn icon of thirtyish urban femmes, will raise a collective glass of Jacob's Creek to the news that Working Title has just greenlighted the film of Helen Fielding's bestselling book. What cool fun to have the amorous japes of Bridget and her two girlfriends, Shazzer and Jude, finally captured on celluloid. But hold up, which thespians will portray Fielding's tangy troika? It's been a hot topic between la belle He ene and her real-life models for Shazzer and Jude, whom Pandora names as (respectively) Sharon Maguire (the writer and documentary maker) and Tracy Macleod (the DJ and broadcaster). The plot quickens when you learn that Working Title has just signed Sharon Maguire to direct the movie. Will the real-life Sharon get some glossy talent to play her fictive counterpart? Will the role of Shazza steadily eclipse that of Bridget Jones as the script goes through its rewrites? Watch this space.

Very interesting, Karen. I still think that this movie will be the sleeper hit. Regardless of who's in it. I'm just excited about it. Now if only we could get info on the new book;)

Thank you Karen and Ann for that bit of news. Maybe Sharon Maguire will play the role of Shazzer in the movie. (Don't laugh...stanger things have happened) The question is ...Who is the real Life Bridget?...or is she a composite of all of HF's dippy friends :-)

Another Variety tidbit: U nails Plus pact Transatlantic team backs Working Title pix By ADAM DAWTREY, 5/13/99 CANNES � Universal Pictures has finally closed a 50-50 joint venture with France�s Canal Plus to co-finance the production, development and operational costs of Working Title Films, U�s London-based production company. For the first three years of the deal, Canal Plus will get continental European TV rights to all of Working Title�s movies. It will also receive theatrical and video rights in France to every second film produced by the company, with Universal Pictures Intl. retaining the other half of the slate. Starting with the fourth year of the deal, that equal split of theatrical and video rights will be extended across the whole of the Continent. UPI will continue to release all of WT�s films in English-speaking territories, and in any other non-European countries where it opens its own distribution operations in the future. UPI also plans to launch in Latin America next year. Sales in other territories will be divided up between UPI and Canal Plus. Radical deal This radical co-financing deal was initiated by Working Title co-chairmen Tim Bevan and Eric Fellner, who recently signed a new five-year deal with U giving them wide-ranging powers to greenlight their own movies with budgets of up to $25 million. The two were keen to cement their autonomy by bringing in another financier and to restore their European links after the sale of WT�s former Dutch parent Polygram to U. For U, the deal offers a massive injection of cash � Canal Plus� contribution to WT�s annual production slate alone will be $50 million-$100 million � while taking films off its balance sheet. The pact is being financed under a bank deal with Societe Generale. Film flow follows For Canal Plus, the agreement guarantees a flow of movies from Europe�s most successful film production company, initially for its Euro TV outlets and later to fuel its expanding theatrical ambitions. WT looks set to shoot at least half a dozen films in the next year. The first film to fall under the deal is the Coen brothers� �O Brother, Where Art Thou?,� which just started shooting in Mississippi and will be released in France by UPI. WT�s next project looks likely to be �Bridget Jones� Diary,� which will go to Canal Plus in France. Also upcoming is �Captain Corelli�s Mandolin.� Everyone is happy Ron Meyer, prexy and chief operating officer of Universal Studios, said, �This strategic partnership ... fulfills Universal Pictures� commitment to increasing its global production and distribution activity while continuing our strategy of bringing in key partners for strategic co-financing.� Pierre Lescure, chairman and chief exec of Canal Plus, said the deal is �significant for the European film industry.� Vincent Grimond, chief exec of Canal Plus Image, the distribution arm through which the deal is channeled, commented, �We have always considered Tim and Eric as great producers. We share the same vision and the same culture. Working Title has proven that European films can achieve global critical and commercial success.� Bevan and Fellner said, �This partnership between the U.S. and Europe mirrors our continued strategy to produce European movies with truly international appeal.�

The fact that Sharon Maguire is the model for 'Shazzer' answers the question as to why she's directing this film despite a background in documentaries. Laura, no doubt by now you've seen news about BJD-the sequel over at 118. Hey Working Title! Announce the BJD cast, already!

Uh, I haven't, but I'll repost it over here.

Transfered from 188 Bethan: BJD: The Sequel (whatever the title is!) is going straight to paperback (no hardback) at �6.99. I was in our local Waterstones the other day and asked about it. They were expecting delivery in April, but the date has been put back. Perhaps to coincide with the beginning of the film shoot...good PR! Sorry, this should be at #80...am too lazy. Uh, Yeah? Thank you for the information. I wonder if they are charging HF for any delays;)

I meant 118, duh!

I'm sure you've all seen the news on BJD from 118. Thanks, Ann, for getting up so early on a Sunday morning. There was one paragraph in that article that must made me laugh: Friends say Fielding once harboured hopes of marriage but Curtis fell instead for Emma Freud. Fielding, 40, remains unmarried and currently has no steady companion. I don't know who else would write like that but a "smug married". ;-) I think Cate would be a fine choice. We're used to seeing her in heavy, serious films. She's got to be ready for a comedy break-out. Sounds promising for Colin too. Oh, I hope this new writer doesn't leave out the P&P references. One of my favorites: The testosterone-crazed fans do not wish themselves on the pitch, claims Hornby, instead seeing their team as their chosen representatives, rather like parliament. That is precisely my feeling about Darcy and Elizabeth. They are my chosen representatives in the field of shagging."

Thank you, Ann, for posting the good parts. I'll copy the entire article from the Sunday Times in the next message for all who want to read it. In the Sunday Times today:-" Bridget Jones gets her man" (can't type it all but here are the interesting parts. Oscar nominee Cate Blanchette has been tipped for the lead role, as has Helena Bonham Carter, though she has less in common with Jones than the 29 year old Australian star of Elizabeth. Blanchette would be v. good. She's not beautiful like HBC and can be quite plain. I haven't seen Pushing Tin yet, but it is a broad, over-the-top comedy role for her as a Long Island housewife. I believe I read good things about her in it. COLIN FIRTH who played Darcy in the BBC production of P&P is expected to play the LOVE interest, Mark Darcy." Expected!! He'd be a fool to turn down the opportunity to play opposite one of the hottest actresses going. Just think of the publicity machine surrounding this film a la Notting Hill. Wow!! "Insiders at Cannes said that a film of BJD wold succeed only if there were significant changes to the character...insiders say that Curtis (4 weddings and a Funeral, Notting Hill) is likely to insist that Bridget gets her man" Huh?? In the book I read, Bridget wound up with Mark in the end. Has the script changed that much?

Bridget Jones gets her man by Richard Brooks Arts Editor BRIDGET JONES has found her Mr Right. The creator of the neurotic "singleton" has turned to the man who once thwarted her hopes of marriage to salvage a movie version of her book. Helen Fielding, who created a bestseller by portraying modern urban women as shallow, vulnerable and desperate for marriage, has turned to one of the most successful men in the British film industry for help with her screenplay. The involvement of Richard Curtis would have mortified the fictional Jones, who goes to desperate lengths to conceal her dependence on men. But senior sources at Universal, the Hollywood studio, said Curtis would play a vital role in improving Fielding's draft screenplay, which she began more than a year ago. This weekend one industry insider at the Cannes film festival said a film of Bridget Jones's Diary would succeed only if there were significant changes to her character. "Bridget needed help. Helen was good at scripting characters on the page but not able to transfer them to the screen," said the source. Jones is defined largely by her hang-ups. She hates married couples, who ask her about her barren love life and imitate the ticking of her body clock. Insiders say that Curtis, a master of romantic comedy, is likely to insist Jones gets her man. He wrote the screenplay for the movie Notting Hill, in which Julia Roberts's film star falls for Hugh Grant's struggling bookseller. His past box office hits include Four Weddings and a Funeral. Curtis's romantic entanglement with Fielding proved less successful than his films. The couple met each other at Oxford University and embarked on a relationship after he saw her performing in a play. Friends say Fielding once harboured hopes of marriage but Curtis fell instead for Emma Freud. Fielding, 40, remains unmarried and currently has no steady companion. Oscar nominee Cate Blanchette, has been tipped for the lead role, as has Helena Bonham Carter, though she has less in common with Jones than the 29-year-old Australian star of Elizabeth. Colin Firth, who played Darcy in the BBC production of Pride and Prejudice, is expected to play the love interest, Mark Darcy. This weekend there were signs that female solidarity is not entirely dead. The film is to be directed by Sharon McGuire, a close friend of Fielding and the model for Jones's best friend, Shazza. ************** (Heide) I don't know who else would write like that but a "smug married". ;-) It does, doesn't it? However, shocked to see the article was written by a man!! Article has pictures of HBC and Helen Fielding at top. Helen has changed her do. :)

Thanks Karen for posting all of that for us to see. I agree that he wouldbe a fool to turn it down. C.B, I still have my reservations and this has been increased by what I have read about her recently on stage. Still as we know, ODB can bring the best out in most (sorry E.MC!!) actresses.

(Lizza) Still as we know, ODB can bring the best out in most (sorry E.MC!!) actresses. LOL, Lizza. Be grateful E McG won't be Bridget. ;-) And I'm happy to report since I'm one of the ones who have insisted the actress be at least 30, that Cate is actually 30, not 29 as the article says. Pushing Tin...I had forgotten that one, Karen. I have heard good reviews for her as well though not for much else in that film.

She turned 30 this week, I think. At least this confirms that they are trying to get well known actors, so there is backing which can only fare well for Colin. But I still need a confirmation. Heide, we must work on this. I wonder if Curtis has Hugh Grant in mind for any of the male roles? Perhaps, he would only consider the lead role. I've had it with his overacting! Poor Helen, she couldn't cut the sceenplay. But why would Curtis need to touch up Davies's script?

(Moon)But why would Curtis need to touch up Davies's script? Probably for the same reason that they hired Tom Stoppard to "touch up" SIL.....IMO , it wasn't v. good.....Why else bring on another screen writer. Davies did CoF and P&P...but I didn't like his TV EMMA.

I wonder if Curtis has Hugh Grant in mind for any of the male roles? I think he would make a good Daniel Cleaver! BTW HG is just one day older than Colin.

WOW, I go away for a weekend and return to oodles of information. Double WOW!! Cate Blanchett would be a good BJ and of course, CF will DEFINITELY do MD. (being very optimistic!) Thank you to all for the information. Now, any news on the new book?

Argh!! Just drove past a movie set a few blocks away. They were just setting up. Went around the block a couple of times and then asked the police what movie it was. Shoot!! It wasn't High Fidelity, but the Bonnie Hunt movie with David Duchovney and Minnie Driver. Hey Laura, they shot at the Northside Cafe for High Fidelity and no one told me!! Also at one of the harbors. Don't remember Rob being much of an outdoors person. ;-)

From Empire: Bridget Jones is V. Competitive Bafta award-winning actress Cate Blanchett (Elizabeth, Oscar and Lucinda) is among the top three choices mooted to play the neurotic thirty-something heroine Bridget Jones. Helena Bonham Carter and Geri Halliwell are also in the running, but Blancett is thought be have the edge at present. Meanwhile Notting Hill�s Richard Curtis is giving Bridget creator Helen Fielding a hand with the script for Bridget Jones, which she is adapting from her hugely successful novel, Bridget Jones� Diary. Production on the film is due to start a the end of the summer. ********** Geri Halliwell?? That's one of those Spice Things, right? Or ex-Spicers? Yuck! Or does that appeal to you, Laura. I seem to recall you liked someone in Spiceworld. ;-)

At least (at last) it starts to roll! (Laura McCarthy)of course, CF will DEFINITELY do MD. I so want him to do it too! (Karen)Blanchette would be v. good. She's not beautiful like HBC and can be quite plain. HBC beautiful? How tastes differ... I wouldn't mind CB as Bridget, but isn't she perhaps too thin? I hated the article, BTW. Good news should come in better packaging :-)

Geri Halliwell? Goodness, has everybody gone mad?

Geri Halliwell? AAAArrrrgggg! I cannot believe it. For heaven sake how can they mention her in the same breath as Cate Blanchett (or CF)?

Geri Halliwell??? Gasp! I think I need CPR.

Among those short-listed for the role of Bridget Jones are two Academy Award nominees and one ex-Spice Girl. These people are into serious drugs...

Can you imagine if Geri Halliwell actually gets the role?...selected over the other two? Good reason for CF to say: "No thanks".

I think then they could pair up Keanu Reeves with Geri...

I think I could stand to miss that version :U

Aaaargh!!! GERI HALLIWELL! If an ex-Spice Girl gets the role I shall burn my copy of BJD. And pray that Colin says NO! Actually, I can't believe this...Cate Blanchett and Helena BC are highly experienced and gifted actresses. Geri Halliwell, well, I'd better not say, as I wouldn't be kind. This would be dumbing down on a colossal scale.....no, I can't believe this! Returning to reality, end of summer sounds okay for both Cate and Colin though.

Thanks ladies, I needed a good laugh!

Sorry, Evelyn, but I really LIKED the A&E version of "Emma"...found little to distinguish it from the movie version, except shorter (who knows...maybe I'm a closet Mark Strong fan!! ;-))

From the 5/18 Independent: Sunday Times, which has managed to lift one of Pandora's scoops-du-jour just nine days after you first read it here. But commiserations too, because the Murdoch rag, in following up the Bridget Jones movie story, omitted to mention that the current front runner for the film's lead is Emily Watson. ************ Now that's better...Emily Watson. Excellent actress. Loved her in Breaking the Waves.

Geri Halliwell I think is more of a joke; sort of like a write-in campaign. Cate Blanchett would be brilliant as would Emily Watson. I tend to lean more towards Cate Blanchett. I find that she can really become the role; and I've seen more of her movies. I've only seen two Emily Watson movies so I can't really say. You know, now that I think of it. Geri is probably built more like BJ. She is spunky. But not quite old enough to do the role.

(Karen), Emily Watson. Excellent actress. Loved her in Breaking the Waves. I agree! She really becomes the role and her face can be comical, she would be a great Bridget. CB is too skinny for the role. Now with Helena B.C. as one of her friends. Hugh Grant as Daniel C., CF as MD and Ewan as the plumber and C. Zeta-Jones as Rebecca, it would bring in a big audience.

CZJ as Rebecca is brilliant! She's gorgeous, can probably play catty. HBC would have to be Shazzer. I don't think she could do Jude. Jude is a bit wimpy.

I think the press has caught up with our posts. Excepting that Geri H. trash, of course! She's too busy being a UN ambassador to star in a movie (read that with all the sarcasm you can muster). Didn't we go through HBC (much too thin--move over Calista) and EW? Next the press will add Kate Winslet (too young) as a front-runner and viola! Was there any discussion about CB? IMO she'd be the best. If ODB *ever* costarred with GH, I'd be wondering who put the gun to his head. (Moon) Ewan as the plumber LOL!

(Eileen) Didn't we go through HBC (much too thin--move over Calista) and EW? Probably, sometime after Minnie Driver, Toni Collette, Jane Leeves, et al. Although, I'd put HBC in the too beautiful as opposed to too thin. She is an OK age and can be made to look plain (as in Margaret's Museum). Wasn't that "Theory of Flight" movie, with HBC as a woman with ALS, a comedy? (BTW, I'm not trying to be funny or cruel or anything)

Emily Watson Now, you're talking.... Her performance in Hilary and Jackie was as good as CB in Elizabeth.

If you think she was good in H & J rent Breaking the Waves, she was fantastic! I don't consider HBC a beauty or too skinny. She would be a good Shazzer. Let's give CB Jude. (So she won't be out of work);-) Someone, quick, fax our casting ideas to Universal!

CB finishes in "Plenty" on July 10, so could certainly be available for filming mid-August (I'm allowing her a short break!). I'd make her first choice, with Emily Watson a close second. What's pleasing, I think, is that all three actresses mentioned (note that I am excluding our non-roving UN ambassador! ) are high calibre Academy Award nominees, which means that BJD must be rated as a high profile project. BTW I'd like to see Alison Steadman as Bridget's mum!

I second Alison S. for her mum!

Hear hear! But I'd like the insufferable Don Johnson as Julio ;-)

But I'd like the insufferable Don Johnson as Julio ;-) hee hee

Moon, you arwe getting so good at flowers...perhaps I should find the transportation - planes, limos, bicycles, sledges...? and tables and dining rooms...so much to do - but that is your thing. I am amidst the green and growing. Off you go - expect to see wheels tomorrow!!!

Ooops - this is where my posting went. I could not find it on 72. Sorry for the intrusion, Laura Dear!

I was wondering if we were going to be overtaken by leis and flower arrangements on everyboard! LOL!!! Don't worry, Marcia, you're allowed one faux pas per board;p

How frightning - it could have been that string of Yaks on that rope bridge...=P

Hi. I hope you remember me. It's probably been a year since I've posted to this board. I really miss reading the weekly BJD & hope she comes back some day. Anyway the reason I have resurfaced is to pass the news that HF is touring again. Her schedule is listed here: http://www.penguinputnam.com/bridgetjones/tour.htm Valerie

Thanks Valerie....we've missed you... Oh Karen....HF will be at your Borders on the 9th....We will await your report anxiously....you know what questions to ask....like when is Bridget II gonna be released!!To say nothing of the BJD film.... Anybody else near the other cities?

Valerie, it has been awhile! Good to see you back here and with great info! Just an aside, I saw the paperback of BJD and it cracked me up. It says on the top of the book National Bestseller! (v.g.) LOL!

It seems odd that she would do another tour just before the new book comes out. That should be one of the questions. She does plan to tour once the new book is released I would imagine. And, don't forget the obvious questions like who has been cast for the film and exactly when will the shoot begin. Go to it! Karen, you also get her in Chicago.

Great!! Better choice of bookstores this time. I'll be there and I'll ask the question again... maybe this time she'll have a different answer. Hmmm, have nothing left for her to sign. Thanks Valerie for posting the info. I miss her silly column too. :(

Karen, just a thought, but a spare program from 3DoR for her to sign, and when she asks what it is, tell her a play with CF - which will be your opening to Mark Darcy et al.

A spare program?? What's that? ;-) Maybe I'll print off her Bridget interviews Colin column from the Independent. At least this time she won't have to compete with Bulls Championship games. Anyone want a paperback BJD? I could get it and have it signed for you. Just another thought.

I could send you may UK paperback for her to sign...but do I want it signed? I just want to know what the h... is going on with the next book, the movie, the cast, etc. Is it Davies or Curtis, etc.

My guess is that she's bringing her new book along....why would she be on a press junket for an old book that is now in paperback already. Doesn't make sense.

No, it's for the paperback. Nick Hornby did a similar mini-tour for About A Boy coming out in PB. Do we really think she's made any progress on the sequel? Looking at the odds in Vegas, I don't think so. ;-)

(Karen)Maybe I'll print off her Bridget interviews Colin column from the Independent. I think that's very clever. Go for it!

I just read BJD night before last (finally!) I laughed SO hard :) I'm now Dying -along with the rest of you- for info on the movie! Karen, I also think that printing out the BJ interview is an excellent idea :) Cant wait to read your report from meeting her-

This was in Liz Smith's column today about Cate Blanchett. I also read that "Plenty" has been extended for a few weeks. She still could be doing BJD, as CG is still a ways off. Anything for Colin in CG, anyone? "Blanchett has scooped the title role in 'Charlotte Gray,' based on Sebastian Faulks' best-seller about love and betrayal in wartime. John Madden, who put 'Shakespeare in Love' on the map, may direct. And Cate is also on the verge of signing for 'The Man Who Cried,' about the loves of Russian dancers. Her costar would be Robert De Niro. Hmmmm, De Niro in tights, executing a fabulous jete ?!

More FYI About High Fidelity Release Date: Spring 2000 Stephen Frears directs this romantic comedy about a slacker (John Cusack) who owns a record store who sets his sights on winning back his ex-girlfriend (Iben Hjejle). Joan Cusack, Beverly D'Angelo, Sara Gilbert, Lili Taylor, Harold Ramis, Jack Black and Todd Louiso star. Catherine Zeta-Jones has a cameo. Based on Nick Hornby's novel. (Touchstone) So Iben Hjejle plays Laura, per the IMDb. She's a Danish actress. Anyone know her? And Sara Gilbert does play Marie.

Charlotte Grey will be a very good serious role.....I wonder if this mean that CB isn't going to do BJD. If she's busy signing up for other roles, she would have signed for BJD as well. Perhaps we'll get an announcement of the casting now! Karen, if you do meet Helen, please ask her when the sequel is due out, and whether P&P's Andrew Davies and/or Richard Curtis have been involved in the screenplay. And, of course, when will we hear about the casting! Perhaps she'll give us a clue (Will Mark Darcy have a bald spot?) :-)

I will definitely be going to the booksigning. So I will attempt to get those questions asked, Bethan. The info on Charlotte Grey didn't indicate when they would be getting started on it though.

That's the first I've heard about Lili Taylor being in High Fidelity. She usually seems to take quirky parts in less mainstream fare. If she's not playing Laura, Marie or Charlie though, which part do you think she plays? I can't think of any other big female roles.

From the list of his "desert-island, all-time, top five most memorable split-ups in chronological order:" 1. Alison Ashworth 2. Penny Hardwick 3. Jackie Allen 4. Charlie Nicholson 5. Sarah Kendrew Lili Taylor could play any of those. If CZJ plays Charlie, which I'm beginning to wonder about, because her part is being called a "cameo" and there's that whole cocktail party thing, I'd guess Lili Taylor might be Sarah.

From today's Sunday Times: Hornby kicks football habit by Jon Ungoed-Thomas HE FOUND fame and fortune writing about Arsenal, but now Nick Hornby has grown weary of the subject of football. Hornby's memoir, Fever Pitch, which charted his club's fortunes and his own emotional vicissitudes, established football writing as a lucrative literary genre. While other writers, such as Martin Amis and Salman Rushdie, are now eager to pen their own football tomes, Hornby has let it be known that he considers it all slightly pass�. After the phenomenal success of Fever Pitch in 1992, Hornby went on to write two bestselling novels, High Fidelity and About a Boy. While Hornby's imitators have rushed to publish their own confessional football books, Hornby has decided to leave the sport on the sidelines. "He is weary of it," said Caroline Dawnay, Hornby's agent, last week. "I don't think he is bored by football, but he would prefer to be thought of as a serious novelist." Hornby's decision to steer clear of the subject has been welcomed by both football fans and other writers. Greg Williams, whose novel Football Crazy is due to be published this year, said: "After Fever Pitch, I would hear fans going to Arsenal matches actually talking about the book, which was a great achievement. The problem was everyone wanted to write a similar book and people have got fed up with the sheer amount of repetition. My own book is not about football, but celebrity." Fever Pitch has sold more than 700,000 copies and has been made into a film starring Colin Firth. Its vivid depiction of Hornby's endearing but obsessive fixation on Arsenal helped give the sport a new cultural cachet and also highlighted its importance in Britain. "Fever Pitch hallowed and directed everybody's sense of football as a religion," said Dawnay. "It also legitimised women's response to football and as a result of that there are many more women watching the sport." The success of the book also meant more literary figures were eager to write about football. Despite Hornby's weariness, the trend has not waned and within the last week Rushdie has written about his love of football in The New Yorker while Amis has described a trip to see the match between Manchester United and Bayern Munich. "I once took the Peruvian novelist Mario Vargas Llosa to White Hart Lane," writes Rushdie. "As I left the ground, beaming foolishly, a fellow Spurs fan recognised me and waved cheerily in my direction. 'Gawd bless you, Salman,' he yelled." Such outpourings in praise of football have prompted many fans to argue that the world literary figures should perhaps leave the sport alone. "There's no objection to them writing about the sport, but they are not saying anything that is remotely new," said William Ainslie, 30, an Arsenal fan. For Hornby, the decision to stay away from football writing is unlikely to affect his career or his bank balance. The film rights to About a Boy have been sold for �1.8m.

"Fever Pitch hallowed and directed everybody's sense of football as a religion," said Dawnay. "It also legitimised women's response to football and as a result of that there are many more women watching the sport." And you kids say FP is not a film about football....?? You're kidding....!!

Uh oh!! ************** Nicolas Cage May Strum On 'Mandolin' By Chris Petrikin HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Actor Nicolas Cage is in negotiations with Working Title Films and Universal Pictures to star in "Captain Corelli's Mandolin," to be directed by "Notting Hill" helmer Roger Michell. While a deal has not been finalized, sources said that Cage wants to do the World War II-era love story, which will likely go before the cameras next March in Italy. The film, based on Louis De Bernieres' British novel, is a "Doctor Zhivago" Di-like love story/drama set on the idyllic Greek island of Cephalonia during World War II. Cage would play Captain Antonio Corelli, a sophisticated Italian officer (and musician) who commands the isle's garrison after the Italians invaded Greece. He soon begins a heated affair with the daughter of the local doctor; and despite their feelings for one another, they are forced to navigate their political and personal allegiances against the backdrop of war. Cage recently began production on the thriller "Gone In 60 Seconds," for which he reportedly received his first $20 million payday. "Gone" is expected to wrap in late summer, giving the Oscar-winning actor a window to shoot another film before "Captain Corelli." "Corelli" will mark the followup for Michell to his current hit, "Notting Hill," the romantic comedy starring Julia Roberts and Hugh Grant that also was produced by Working Title. Michell, an acclaimed stage director who seems to have come into his own with "Notting," has been developing "Corelli" for several years. The film is likely to be the first project greenlit under the newly hatched production pact that Working Title struck with Universal earlier this year. That unique deal allows the British-based banner to greenlight its own films with budgets up to $25 million. While the original "Corelli" budget was tagged at that level, it's unclear whether that budget will be significantly increased with the addition of Cage's high eight-figure fee, or whether the actor's deal will go light on the upfront fee but heavy on contingent compensation. ******* Better Nic plays Corelli than Mark Darcy, huh? ;-)

(Evelyn) And you kids say FP is not a film about football I gather you're being facetious, Evelyn. I related more strongly to the football fan aspect of the film than to the love story (I'm an avid US football fan). But without the love story, the film would have been a documentary. It will be interesting to see how it's promoted in the US. 'Gawd bless you, Salman,' After all the hoo-ha concerning Salman a few years ago, I'm glad to see he's progressed to writing about football :-P Nicolas Cage May Strum On 'Mandolin' "Uh oh" is an understatement! "Oh no" is my statement! I'm 3/4 of the way through this book now (BTW, if anyone is looking for it, the title is 'Corelli's Mandolin'; no 'Captain'). Corelli is not described physically so H'wood can have their way. Heck, at least it's not Roberto Begnini! I generally like Nic Cage but his work has been so...dark. Better Nic plays Corelli than Mark Darcy, huh? ;-) Your point is taken!

(Evelyn) And you kids say FP is not a film about football (Eileen) I gather you're being facetious, Evelyn. I related more strongly to the football fan aspect of the film than to the love story This has been an ongoing argument. I've always maintained it is not a *sports* film, but about a character who is sports obsessed and his relationship with a woman. Unfortunately, the love story was not all that well-developed. Lots of good arguments about why someone like Sarah would love a Paul Ashworth and go back to him.

Eileen, it's called Captain Corelli's Mandolin in the UK, Canada, and most of Europe, they shortened it here in the States. Actually, I think Nic Cage will be good in this role. He doesn't come in until halfway through the book. I'd be curious who'd play Mandras and Pelagia. Nic can smolder with those intense eyes of his. I think the casting might be good, and Nicolas Cage is technically a Coppola, so his nationality is right!

Helen Fielding will be on CNN (Riz Khan's Q&A)on Tuesday (tomorrow), answering questions which can be emailed or phoned. Riz mentioned that BJD is about to be turned into a movie. Nic Cage...marginally better than Ewan McGregor, but still IMO completely wrong. I actually think this is one character I prefer to just "see" in my imagination. Nic Cage is too old for a start...I think of Corelli as late twenties. I thought BJD was the first project to be "greenlit" for Working Title, if they're shooting in September (I hope) But again this begs the question, if the main casting for Corelli can be announced now, why not BJD. Why is it taking so long?

Perhaps, and this is a big perhaps, Colin Firth is doing Mark Darcy, but will get no credit for it. Especially, where it could technically be a cameo role. Similar to Mel Gibson in Fairytale: A True Story. Who knew MG was in that movie until the end????? Oh well, anything to say as to why they haven't announced casting;) I thought it good reasoning;-p

Especially, where it could technically be a cameo role. Technically, it would never been considered a cameo role. A cameo is where an actor makes an appearance in one scene. There is a surprise cameo in Notting Hill and as you said Mel's in Fairytale and there are lots of others. However, Mark Darcy (in the book) appears numerous times. The issue of credited v. uncredited is unrelated to being a cameo and done for different reasons.

Laura, you don't really believe Mark Darcy is a cameo role, do you?

Well, I'm not a big Mark Darcy fan, now am I????? Yes, I think it is a cameo role. A few shots here and there. He'll probably only do a couple of days shoot. (because the role is so minimal)

So basically it is an all girl film with guys in cameo roles? (That will cause Bridget to put on a few stones!) ;-)

Oh, come on, this is definitely going to be a chick flick! Men take backdoor to this story. I think I'd like Stephen Fry as Tom;)

Um, I meant, in this story;)

If it is be a "chick flick" to use your term, then you've disproved your own comments. A chick flick (i.e., sappy romance and/or tearjerker) MUST have a hunky guy role for chicks to drool over. If you think Mark Darcy is a cameo, then you must think the same of Mr. Darcy. Wrong!

(Karen)If you think Mark Darcy is a cameo, then you must think the same of Mr. Darcy. Wrong! I see confusion here. First of all, Mark Darcy is NOT 1813 Mr. Darcy. Mark Darcy is 1995-98 Mark Darcy. Mr. Darcy doesn't cheat on Elizabeth. Mark Darcy cheats on Bridget. Mr. Darcy is more prominent in P&P. Mark Darcy is touched upon in the book. I don't see MD as a direct takeoff of Mr. Darcy, she alludes to certain qualities, but MD is definitely his own person. We definitely saw more of MD in the weekly columns (where there was no similarity to Mr. Darcy).

You have built up MD's character nicely Laura, it looks like a lead role to me. :-)

Re: Mark Darcy: The character is more than 'touched upon' in the book. It's central to HF's updated P&P theme. Since *none* of us has seen the screenplay (correct me if I'm wrong), who knows?Will the screenplay be based on the book alone, or the book plus the weekly columns? Cameos? John Travolta and George Clooney in 'Thin Red Line' (or I should say George Clooney playing Doug Ross playing an officer in 'TRL', since all his roles are Doug Ross. You know, Doug Ross as Batman, Doug Ross as the army officer with Nicole Kidman, Doug Ross running around with Jennifer Lopez, etc.). (Bethan) I think of Corelli as late twenties Don't forget he ages at the end of the story, but yes, most of the action takes place while he's in his 20's. The central character in the book is Pelagia so that should be the key part (but we haven't seen this screenplay either). I just finished the book yesterday; if the screenplay follows the story the movie should be a good one.

(Eileen)Since *none* of us has seen the screenplay (correct me if I'm wrong) Let's see, if Richard Curtis is now involved with the Andrew Davies-amended script, do we really *need* to see the screenplay? I suppose it will go like this: Boy, with floppy hair, meets...oops, sorry... start again Girl (model-like in appearance) meets guy with floppy hair at wedding, funeral, bookstore, parents' friends' New Years Day buffet, etc., or some such trendy locale. Boy makes lasting impression on girl due to ugly sweater and they fall in deep like although neither knows what to make of it. We will because of a camera shot of boy giving girl a LOOK! Each goes own way, but meets up with other at other trendy spots. We will see boy taking a leisurely bath and going for a dip in a pond. Boy will stammer a lot and flutter eyelids, and be endearingly self-deprecating. Years will pass and they keep meeting and we will be suitably aggravated. BTW, there will be loads of colorful characters for the supporting cast. Tom will be played by Simon Callow. Mark will have a colorfully vulgar Welsh co-worker named Spike. Boy and girl will finally get together at end and while credits roll we will see pictures and/or snippets of their life together. The End

Wrong, Moon, I haven't built up his character, I just mentioned one glaring aspect of it in the weekly series. His character most likely in the screenplay will be small. He's not quite the love interest until much later. Pelagia and her father are the main characters. And I liked Mandras before he went off to war. The book had a very weak ending. I do HOPE they change that.

Karen, I think YOU should write the screenplay, cast the movie, direct, produce and edit it. That was hysterical;) Much better than what HF could ever do.

LOL, Karen. No doubt boy will also have a tendency to oversleep and a propensity for statements such as 'f**kety-f**k'. Boy will have chance encounter with girl, who has just finished excercising and is quite sweaty. Boy will have peculiar look on face, as if he's...ummm...

Forgot to describe boy's first encounter with girl at Una's Turkey Curry Buffet. Boy will spill curried turkey all over girl, whilst muttering "bollocks." Boy will then show everyone his manliness by snuffing out lit candle with fingers.

LOL, Karen, you're really on a roll here. Laugh aloud funny, as they say!! And Eileen, your Doug Ross comments, ditto! My take on MD is that in the screenplay of BJD it will be a central role.

Bethan, I agree completely. Sorry Laura. LOL, Karen!

Have heard that Curtis has changed Mark's girlfriend's name from Natasha to Duckface and will be reprised by KST. Oh, definitely, agree with you Bethan. Mark must be featured in the movie as that allusive guy, seemingly looking down on Bridget, fighting his attraction for her.

From Empire: Cage Sharpens his Bow 08/06/1999 He may have started his career in teen angst flicks like Rumblefish and Fast Times at Ridgemont High, but it didn�t take long for the hell-raising Nicolas Cage to don the action hero cloak and keep it securely fastened while he racked up a repertoire including The Rock, Con Air and Face/Off. All the more strange that he�s reportedly considering the title role in an adaptation of Captain Corelli�s Mandolin, from the best-selling novel by Brit author Louis de Bernieres. Set on the Greek island of Cephallonia during the Second World War, the book follows the story of a sensitive Italian officer who falls in love with the local doctor�s daughter. Despite Cage�s dalliances with matinee idol status in Moonstruck or Leaving Las Vegas (the twisted matinee idol) it�s pretty hard to imagine him speaking soft word of love under the olive trees. Still, with Notting Hill�s Roger Michell slated to directed � a man who made Hugh Grant appear attractive (apparently) � Cage might just be the new thinking woman�s heartthrob.

Cage to play Captain Corelli? Having established his action man credentials in films like Snake Eyes, Con Air and Face/Off, Nicholas Cage is said to be considering a romantic leading role. One of Cage's most memorable performances was as Cher's volatile Italian love interest in the Oscar-winning Moonstruck: now romance beckons once more. Cage could take the lead role in Working Title's production of Captain Corelli's Mandolin, playing the suave Italian officer and musician whose troops take command of a Greek island in the second world war. British director Roger Mitchell is said to be first choice to direct the adaptation of Louis De Bernieres' best-selling novel. Mitchell's last project was Notting Hill, whose closing shot sees Hugh Grant's character reading a copy of the very novel. Coincidence? We think not. Cage is currently filming Gone in 60 Seconds with Angelina Jolie and Vinnie Jones. With his fees $20 million for 60 Seconds and the budget of Corelli originally limited to $25 million, some financial juggling will be needed. ********** Reading the book on the park bench, huh? Well, didn't think you could see the title, but then again your version doesn't look like ours.

A Variety gossip column is about all the roles that are being tossed at Blanchett. Says she is being "courted" for Charlotte Gray and numerous others. Nothing solid. However, Bridget is not mentioned. (Didn't realize CB's in Costner's "For Love of the Game" and I've seen the trailer in the theater already!)

NC will Not be this thinking woman's heart-throb. He makes my flesh crawl!

I must agree with you for the most part, Marcia. While I have enjoyed NC in certain of the roles he has played, he engages in too much scenery chewing (i.e. way too broad, overacting) for my taste. He's kind of the anti-Colin ;-)

This article is about the guys at Working Title. Compares them to the Weinstein bros. Mentions BJD and Captain Corelli's Mandolin and their marketing coup with Notting Hill. http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/html/hottx/film/top_direct.html Will write up what HF said tomorrow. *yawn* Nothing to stay up for. ;-)

Evelyn telephoned she is having a lovely time enjoyed TRT, Stephen Dillane and Jennifer were wonderful. She also enquired at Waterstones about" Bridget Jones Diary I will Survive" and was told it should be ready in the Autumn and definitely before Christmas. Also "Son of Adam" is being re-released in December 2000!!

(Karen), Will write up what HF said tomorrow. *yawn* Nothing to stay up for. ;-) Karen, how could that be? Did you asked her all our questions? :-)

how could that be? Did you asked her all our questions? :-) Of course, I asked as many as I could. However, there were a lot of people there. Not the intimate little gathering of last year. ;-) OK, Helen did her reading from the book. She is definitely improving and put much more into it. Great response from the people. Probably a hundred or so based on number of chairs, rows, people sitting on floor on sides and standing in rear. Took questions. First one asked was "who she would like to play Bridget in the movie?" She initially answered about how she would've liked do it herself and described her forays into acting at university, then ended with same line from last year about a "new face" and all the Hollywood actresses were too thin and too beautiful. That's what I mean about the event and the news being a *yawn*. Her answers are carved in stone from when she was initially coached by the publicists. She added little new from what I could tell, except when a question was off-the-cuff and/or funny. There were the terribly insipid questions like "I noticed there was some similarity to P&P. Was that intentional?" (Do these people live in caves?) Or "how much of Bridget Jones is yourself?" (Argh, even the store person used that in her intro.) When asked "if" she was writing a sequel (listen, stupid, it was also mentioned in the intro) and when it would be released, HF clowned around and said it was now officially one year from the date when it was due at the publisher. She said it was about 3/4 done then revised downward, ending by saying that she's done "some." Didn't sound very encouraging. Went into this whole thing about how she hates writing, has no disciple whatsoever, lives in Notting Hill and finds too much there to distract her (coffee bars and shops) and that she will go off into the country to do her writing. About the screenplay, she said she did 2 drafts. She said that initially tossing BJD together as book was quick and easy as she had no expectations that people would buy/read it. Now she feels much more pressured with the sequel, to make it good, etc. BTW, when talking about the P&P thing, she mentioned that the sequel will use another Austen novel. It's going to be loosely structured on or borrowing from Persuasion. (Am having a hard time myself trying to make that work with her Telegraph columns.) She did explain to the crowd that she continued to write Bridget after the book's action ended and that the sequel would be about what happens when you've landed Mr. Right (or Mr. Darcy) and how he doesn't do things like clear the table, take out the tra h, etc. (remember the one column about rinsing off a spoon). Never mentioned anything about their breakup. Question that got the funniest response: One woman asked if she imagined Bridget in her later years as one of the AbFab ladies. Helen responded absolutely and started acting like Patsy, a little sloshed. It was cute. OK, enough with the audience interaction. Went up to get a book signed for a friend and it was your basic quick sign and move on type situation. When I got up there, I said "this is certainly much better than last year." She looked up and said "Oh, I remember you." (doubt it, but that was nice). Told her that I wasn't supposed to leave without getting a "real" response to some questions. The person from the publisher was standing right next to her as we spoke and Helen continued to sign for others. hen I asked about the sequel, it was very apparent they have absolutely no clue when it will be published. The publisher's rep said they talk about this on nearly a daily basis. I told them that my British friends have been waiting far longer for the sequel. About the movie, my take is that she's out of the loop. She did mention to the crowd that she *hoped* her friend Sharon would be the director. I said I had read the article about her friend being the director and Helen said she hadn't and that sh had been away for a while. About Cate Blanchett being BJ, she said that they are no where near getting started with filming. Nothing about the casting of Mark Darcy, but did forget to ask if she "beefed up" his role. (I felt rather pressured as she was continuing to sign and the line was moving along but I wasn't.) Anyway as a final thing, I told her about my search for Milk Tray in Britain as she raved about the stuff last time and gave her a small box of Fannie Mae's Trinidads (do die for). She wa amused at hearing about the Milk Tray adventure (remember Heide and Evelyn??) and appeared very touched that I did this. That's all folks. Sorry there wasn't anything earth shattering. :(

OK- what are the Telegraph Columns? And where can I find them? BTW- Karen, thanks for the lovely write up! Since I've just read BJD recently, I didnt know a bunch of this stuff. :)

Essbee, Helen started the column at the Independent and then moved over to the Daily Telegraph. The book is based on columns she wrote at the Independent; however, there is a gap between where the book left off (Mark whisking Bridge away at Xmas) and where she picked up at the Telegraph. You can read the columns at the Telegraph's site by doing a search. They started November 8, 1997 and ended December 19, 1998. You can pull them up sequentially from the search function. The main page of "Features" still has I believe a link to "Bridget Jones's Diary" that will take you to the last installment. At the end of each column is a link to the previous week, so you can go backwards to the beginning. Here's the link to the Telegraph (you might still need to register, but it's nothing) http://www.telegraph.co.uk This topic was started by Laura to discuss the weekly columns. We all commented on them, speculated and generally ranted and raved about Bridget's stupidity. Last year, Helen actually acknowledged that she had read this stuff on occasion (probably once or twice) to get some feedback. Hope this helps.

One last thing, the Independent doesn't archive. And, someone asked if HF and her publishers ever considered doing a blank journal. She described the one that was sold in the UK last Christmas, what they added to the various dates, etc., and said that maybe they would do one in the US this time.

What about Davies and Curtis? Who is really incharge? I hope they are not looking for an American to play B. And did you ask about Colin? Thanks Karen, now we should ask Laura to continue and then Winter and Jana2 in LA. We will get our answers yet, I hope!

Is she coming to Boston? I haven't seen that in the line up from Valerie. If she is, where, when and I'll definitely be there! Karen, I think she'd remember you. You have that remembering kind of face. (Natalie Wood, come to think of it.)

Uh, I meant Vivian!

Thanks Karen! :) will check it out sometime this weekend

Re: Curtis and Davies I couldn't figure out a way to word this one without it appearing to be insulting. It really shows that she couldn't write the screenplay and that others have been brought in to help. I probably should have brought the Times article with me, but when I came home and looked at it for the specific wording about her friend Sharon being the director, I remembered how smug the article was about Helen and her turning to her former boyfriend and how Bridget wouldn't translate well to the screen without major c anges. Now I can see why Helen wouldn't acknowledge having seen it. According the schedule, she's already been in LA and I didn't see Boston on the list. Today is Milwaukee, then she goes to Kansas, Minneapolis, and back to NY. Here's the link to the publisher's website. There's an interesting section of "Discussion Topics" (hey, maybe we should do this??) and a mention of the Persuasion theme for the sequel. http://www.penguinputnam.com/bridgetjones/index.htm

(Karen)Last year, Helen actually acknowledged that she had read this stuff on occasion (probably once or twice) to get some feedback. Oh really? That�s news to me and very interesting. Where did she make this acknowledgement? Well if she did it once she has definitely done it again (and again?) Hi, Helen! :-p

She acknowledged it to me, then I told her that I had started up the board. I also brought up about Colin Firth playing Mark Darcy in the movie and if she couldn't get him, then his brother (she liked the idea;)). Now don't go all crazy on me, it happened exactly a year ago!

We talked about it as well. She told the little group last year that there was a place on the web where people discussed her column. I immediately chimed in that I was one of the people and that she would be seeing Laura in a few days. She said that she was (at that time) not very good on the computer and that she had found this place by doing a search for Bridget. She said she had no intention of participating. I remember she asked me about specific columns and why we hadn't reacted much to them. P obably had to do with the fact that Mark wasn't in them!! Go back to last June and read my account and read Laura's account and the LA postings (Winter and/or Jana) of going to the booksigning. I got a few raised eyebrows at the copy of the book (UK paperback) I brought for signature. Will send it back to you shortly, Cathy. ;-)

(Karen)According the schedule, she's already been in LA Wot? When? Why don't I ever hear about these things beforehand? read my account and read Laura's account and the LA postings (Winter and/or Jana) of going to the booksigning. That reminds me, Karen. It was about this time Jana and I first met! And coincidentally, we're meeting up again this Friday to see "An Ideal Husband." a mention of the Persuasion theme for the sequel. EEK! I'm actually not thrilled to hear this. Persuasion is much to sacred to resurface as a BJ sequel. What could possibly happen?...Jude recklessly jumps off a ledge in Lyme, only to dislocate her hip and fall in love with some sailor who keeps her company as she recuperates... (Ann)Evelyn telephoned she is having a lovely time enjoyed TRT Oh, good! I'm glad... Can't wait to hear her account when she gets back next week. Oh, and by the way, our Ben is in England right now, though I don't know if he's going to make a stop at the Donmar to see HDG.

HDG??!!

His Dear Girl.

our Ben is in England right now, though I don't know if he's going to make a stop at the Donmar to see HDG. Not going to make a stop at the Donmar? Oh I see, if he brings a sleeping bag and tent and sets up camp, it would not be called a "stop." ;-) Too bad we probably won't hear HOW MANY times he will have gone to see it and his "objective" of HG' (his goddess') performance.

missing word after "objective" was: review

Reporting from Hollywood (on Lake Michigan, that is): Can't walk and/or drive anywhere around here without bumping into a movie van. Shooting is going on right now with Minnie Driver. They have set up the Old Town Art Fair (one day ahead of time) so that her character can exhibit her works. On Monday, they will be filming next door to me for two weeks minimum. Now the big news!! Have stumbled on High Fidelity!!! Yeah!! Went over to the post office and parked illegally and noticed the signs. Walked down the residential street and saw the trailers lined up. As I'm reading the signs on their doors, saw "Barry" and "Dick" written. Yes!! A guy whose sole job it is to sit in a lawnchair and watch the empty trailers was basically doing nothing so I asked if it was High Fidelity. He said yes. Asked where they were shooting and he said the movie theater around the corner). The Biograph? (that was the famous one where John Dillenger went with the Lady in Red and got shot in the alley) No, the other one. The Three Penny Cinema, a little hole in the wall place that was carved up. In talking to the guy I mentioned that I hadn't heard of them being anywhere, and he said they had just finished soundstage work. Asked if Nick Hornby had been there. He looked blank (as befits anybody whose job it is to sit in a lawnchair all day). Another guy passed by and answered, "yes." I went to talk to him. He said Nick had been there a couple of weeks ago for a few days. I asked whether he worked on the script and the guy said he didn't think so as he doesn't have any writing credits. He just stopped by. Then I asked about casting. shut your eyes, Laura He said that Lisa Bonet is playing Marie and that Sara Gilbert is Anna. Since not one of his girlfriends (or childhood crushes) is named Anna, perhaps he meant Sarah. He admitted he wasn't too good with the names of all those *bit* parts. He told me who was playing Dick and Barry, but I've never heard of them. Jack Blake and somebody else. This guy must have wondered why I didn't ask about Cusack! ;-o They hadn't started for the day, so I will walk over later on and see if I can see anything of either shoot.

Good sleuthing, Karen. He said that Lisa Bonet is playing Marie Lisa Bonet from The Cosby Show?? Have they scoured the 'TV Hall of Fame' or what?

yep, that's the one. I must have had a strange look on my face because he specifically said "The Cosby Show," even though I did know who she was. Now I need to find out what Alan Grier (from that Wayans show) looks like. The cashier at my grocery store said he was in there (this must be the lunch break) and he's in the cast of Return to Me.

David Alan Grier was from "In Living Color" (Fox comedy variety show, early 90's-- where Jim Carrey got his big break). He;s a great actor-- hilarious guy. Lisa Bonet? "Denise" from the Cosby Show? If I had known casting was more diverse, I would've been more agressive in trying to get a part in this film! ;-)

These are two different movies, Winter. Lisa Bonet is Marie in High Fidelity and that's a definite. Went back to the set and saw her in her trailer, which said "Lisa/Marie" on the door. No door was labeled "Rob" which would have been Cusack's, but he could have been in any of the ones that said "producer" as well. And "Lawn Chair Boy" was wrong. They were not shooting in the movie theatre but a bar a couple of doors down called "Lounge Ax" Talked to a PA and some of the extras hanging around. David Alan Grier (I looked him on and found a picture of him) is in "Return to Me," the Minnie Driver/David Duchovney movie. I ran into him on the street. Boy was he noticeable. It's hot and humid and here's this shortish, stocky guy wearing a dark business suit. Everyone's in shorts. I actually said something to him. Saw Minnie as well on the art fair set. Hair was long and wild but gathered at the back. She was wearing real baggy capris. They were rehearsing and I just walked over and took a look. They weren't keeping anybody away.

Agh! Sorry!!! This is what happens when one skims...

Thanks for all the info on HF, Karen. I agree with you that she's probably out of the loop for the movie now. Pobably has very little involvement in any decision making, and certainly won't be able to say anything. But they can't delay filming forever! I'm hoping that there's more Andrew Davies/P&P than Richard Curtis. Davies is a more original scriptwriter ( and does have a dark side). If Curtis takes over I honestly think we'll have Notting Hill 2, with Bridget (as a male Hugh Grant) and her assortment of chums. But that may be exactly what Universal wants! The "Persuasion" theme...BJ gets MD, finds he's not perfect to live with, has major row, he feels hurt and rejected, goes to Japan for a year, comes back ,is interested in steady relationahip with Natasha-type, BJ falls for attractive unreliable type who lets her down, BJ and MD realise they still love each other, end.

Wow! You are all getting so good at it. Too bad we have to wait for HF to write it! ;-) I recently read that Minnie D. got engaged to James Brolin's son. She seems desperate for an attachment, with her past luck and many tries. Karen, is she very skinny? You must, if you get a chance, ask her about Colin. I believe Circle of Friends was her first film, maybe he gave her a few tips. I wonder if NH will be returning to Chicago. Just being your fab. self will get you the answers. :-D

Re: Persuasion The part I'm getting hung up on is *who* persuades Bridget to break it off? Perhaps HF will ignore that minor but pivotal part of the story. ;-) Did MD get engaged to Josh Brolin? I hadn't heard that. Then she'll be Barbra's daughter-in-law. Minnie hit the jackpot. BTW, she's probably thin as a rail, although the outfit she was wearing in that scene was all loose and baggy. Should be able to tell more next week. Am interested to see if she acts like a princess though. On Bridget, I do agree that Curtis' involvement will likely turn the movie into another NH (which isn't bad, guys) or 4Ws. I caught the end of a special on AMC last night about the making of NH and there were interviews with a couple of men, but by that time they weren't showing captions as to who they were. I wonder which one was Richard Curtis and which one was Roger Mitchell.

Minnie Driver was also in "Chatsky" with Colin, so she'll know him very well. someone on the set of COF said that MD didn't mix off set, whereas Colin used to go to the pub with the crew.

I know you're probably out right now prowling the movie sets, Karen. Your reports are fun to read. John Cusack bought the rights to HF, am I right? He's not spending too much money on salaries. No big names though I like that idea. Is it too soon to ask when the film is expected to be released?

There won't be any filming around here today as this weekend is the Old Town art fair (50th anniversary), its hanging-onto-its-coatails cousin Wells Street Art Fair, and the St. Michael's shindig. They aren't THAT STUPID. This is the best weekend of the year around here. Everybody having parties in their yards and on their decks. Love the atmosphere and the crowds of people aren't too bad. Am used to garbage being thrown into frontyard and bottles/cups being left on front steps. ;-) Unfortunately, r in is in the forecast again.

Article in Sunday Times in the Culture section: "Creating the new face of Britain" A small group friends appears to be responsible for how the world views the UK. Bryan Appleyard worries about Bridget Jones and Notting Hill http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/Sunday-Times/frontpage.html?999 Doesn't provide any info on Bridget but is interesting.

Interesting article but just another diatribe on big bad Hollywood - in this case, Curtis pandering to Hollywood to get his films made. Most Americans know there's more to Britain than Hugh Grant's characters. Simplistic analysis, I know but then so's Appleyard's viewpoint.

You should read the article in the Telegraph about "Rogue Trader" Heide! It's the article about Anna Friel. This movie has been sitting on the shelf for about two years and now the spin is that they had timing issues having to do with Leeson's plight (i.e., cancer and now his release from the Singapore jail). Yeah right!! It didn't sell here and they give some lame excuses about American film execs. "One setback for Rogue Trader is that it will not be shown in American cinemas, but will be seen instead on HBO, the pay-cable channel. I understand at least one Hollywood studio balked at Dearden's script because Leeson's dodgy dealings could not be traced back to some traumatic incident in his childhood. The mere fact that there was no incident, and that his is a true story, was irrelevant to them. This tells you much about the narrow, predictable mindset of Hollywood executives. In the long run it doesn't matter. HBO paid handsomely for Rogue Trader, and it has been sold into almost every conceivable world territory. 'This film will be in profit even before it opens,' says Dearden. As well as being another step in the inexorable rise of Anna Friel." IMO the story does seem more of a "made for TV" type.

LISA BONET????????????????????? OH MY F*&#$%G GOD!!!!!!!! UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is this movie a get together of TV sitcom actors??????? Now, I think they can absolutely anything with BJ. Perhaps Mindy Cohn from Facts of Life can play BJ;)

In yesterday's Daily Mail magazine Aishling showed me an article last night that suggested that Liz Hurley might play Bridget Jones!! pleeeese no

NOooooooooo! Get those collagen lips out of my face!

Ann, and you thought JE had become too thin to play Bridget???

Give me JE anyday, too thin or not!!

Ginger Spice....Liz Hurley. Gets worse and worse. Sometimes I have a horrid feeling that BJD The Movie will become just another Hollywood film, driven by "star" names and bankability. The ideal couple (who would have maintained the P&P connection) would have been JE and CF. I really would have preferred BJD to remain a small cheap British movie! If it's Liz Hurley for BJ, how about Hugh Grant for MD. Ghastly thought.

If Colin refuses to be Mark Darcy, then I'd accept Jeremy Northam. He strikes me as being able to portray MD correctly (and that's the MD that in my mind's eye, mind you). Hugh Grant? Never, ever and ever. There's absolutely not one iota of Mark Darcy in HG's repetoire.

You know this whole 'who's gonna be BJ?' is reminiscent of the casting call for Scarlett O'Hara. I can she a whole list of people 'considered', but in all seriousness, not even in contention. Most likely CF will play MD (okay, I'm being optimistic.), and hopefully, they will get an unknown. Similar to Vivian Leigh was in America;) (meaning, she may be a well-known British actress in UK, but not in America.)

Right on! Jeremy Northam as Mark Darcy! I don't mind JN being second-fiddle for this role.

(Laura) Now, I think they can absolutely anything with BJ. Perhaps Mindy Cohn from Facts of Life can play BJ;) LOL! Too cruel! (Bethan)If it's Liz Hurley for BJ, how about Hugh Grant for MD. Ghastly thought. Indeed! But I'd lay odds that their names have been mentioned.

Oh dear, I've been away from the board for a few days and such aggravating news. Liz Hurley as a possible BJ?!?! Lisa Bonet as Marie?!?!? Oh, the horrors Hollywood can perform on a good book. I really need Marie to look like Susan Dey :-). BTW, happy anniversary dear Winter. It was lovely to see you as always. Aren't I lucky to have a Spa girl in my very own neighborhood? And ladies, An Ideal Husband was really enjoyable. Rupert E. handled Wilde's witty dialogue well and I enjoyed Cate B. and JN a lot too. Winter and Jana2 give it a thumbs up!

I'm sorry but there is only one actor who can have the name DARCY!!!

sorry" who can play a character with the name Mr. Darcy," to be honest and I exclude Laura from this, I am sure that is why most of us where interested in the book in the first place, certainly for me.

BTW Winter will you be going to see MLSF when it opens in LA on the 16th, you will one of the first, I look forward to your report. BTW Evelyn saw AIH in London yesterday and said the performances were good but the film dragged on.

Ann, I think I have been very vocal about CF playing MD. I would LOVE to see that. Personally, I can't picture JN playing MD. I still see JN as Knightley and well, Emma is my least favorite Austen book. I can't picture anyone playing MD other than CF. One thing is that I don't care for the character of MD. I felt that in the columns he used Bridget. He would only come over late at night for one thing only, and she generally gave in to him. I like BJ, but I found her to be too much like us, however exagerated she was. I found again in the columns that MD wavered to much. There was no communication between BJ and MD; THAT was the most frustrating part. I am curious to see how they portray MD in the movie though. That should be interesting.

(Laura), Most likely CF will play MD (okay, I'm being optimistic.), and hopefully, they will get an unknown. Similar to Vivian Leigh was in America;) (meaning, she may be a well-known British actress in UK, but not in America.) Laura, I think you might have something there, at least, I hope you do.:-) As far MD, there are lots of men out there that work all day, get home late, and decide to call their mate, go over, ...., and return to their home because it is where they have their closet, shaving gear, etc. Bridget knows it, and has a tendency to give in all the time. It would help her if she drank less. ;-) I think that CF wants this part now and he can use MLSF as a barganing chip to get it. Like you Ann, I read the book because of the P&P connection.

Unfortunately, I don't feel that optimistic about CF playing MD. Unless there were an A-list actress playing Bridget, what would tempt him to play this role, one that would bring back 1000fold all the wet shirt and tight breeches comments. Yes, we think it would be marvelous casting and could be viewed as his having a great sense of humor reprising this part in modern day, but I remain unconvinced that he would. With Richard Curtis involved you can be sure that changes would be made in the storyline to make both Bridget and Mark more appealing so that when we have the *happy* ending, we will be very satisfied. For me, Darcy existed before Colin and for quite a long time Olivier was Darcy. And I read the book somewhere in between seeing the Olivier version and this production. (I've never seen the Rintoul one.) I like to keep my literary characters separate from real life people. Re: Northam as Darcy, Laura, you haven't seen The Winslow Boy obviously. But as I said he would be my second choice. Like that means anything in the grand scheme of things. ;-)

Well I guess I am off to go see The Winslow Boy;) (Actually, I have wanted to see it, but finding time lately is difficult!) I tend to agree with Karen, Darcy existed before CF. Still when I read the book, I don't see CF as Darcy, I see a young man with wavy hair. I may be prejudiced by a woodcut picture in the first P&P book I had ever read. They had pics of Elizabeth, Jane, Darcy, Wickham, Mrs. Bennet and Lady Catherine. And regarding Mark Darcy coming over to Bridget's late at night, they weren't quite a couple again (yet), and he was definitely using her. He would be with Rebecca the very next day. She (HF) instituted too much of real-life. Meaning, exes getting together for a quickie, but going back to the current girlfriend. THAT bothered me. (It hit a nerve.)

HF was just on CNN in a 30 minute interview with Riz Khan, talking about BJD. Nothing new, but must be very good promotion as CNN is watched everywhere in the world. A couple of mentions of the movie "soon to be made." Question about casting BJ...usual answer "would like a complete unknown etc". Asked about the book (sequel)HF said it starts where BJD finished.."it's about what happens when you get the guy in your appartment, and he hasn't done the washing up, not tonight, not ever". Said that sequel was year overdue.

Also have to agree with Ann...it was the P&P connection that got me interested in BJD, and I can't see anyone other than CF playing Mr Darcy. Didn't HF say in a radio interview that CF "was" Mark Darcy. He's probably not into washing up!

HF said it starts where BJD finished.."it's about what happens when you get the guy in your appartment, and he hasn't done the washing up, not tonight, not ever". Said that sequel was year overdue. Word for word exactly what she said at the booksigning last week. ;-)

Mr. Darcy will always be Colin for me. I saw P&P with Larry long before 1995. Didn't do a thing for me and I love Larry but I didn't like Darcy played as a fop. Loved the book since age 13. Colin's portrayal met all my expectations and so many more. Doesn't mean I can't separate actors from their roles! As for Mark Darcy, I'd love to see Colin play him but I'm not convinced it's a good career move and never have been. Considering how ignorant the critics are of his entire career, I'm afraid they'll see it as a desperate move for an actor not able to cash in on his brief fame. A supporting role in an Oscar winner means little. After all, he had that same experience 2 years ago. Had to offer my 2 cents since it is the minority opinion. Do agree with Karen that an A-list actress would be a big temptation though.

High Fidelity Update From Variety: Todd Louiso, memorable as the new-age nanny from "Jerry Maguire," is John Cusack�s best pal and employee in "High Fidelity," the comedy based on the Nick Hornby novel which Stephen Frears directs from a script by Cusack and writing partners Steve Pink and D.V. deVincentis. Louiso, a semiregular on "Chicago Hope,"... ********* Another nobody!

Nooooooooooooo, Karen, he's hysterical!!!! I guarantee you'll like him. He seems to play a lot of gay/homosexual roles, but he's got great comedic timing! I think you'll like him. But I don't see him playing Barry. Maybe Dick.

All I said was that he was a nobody (to me). Has no bearing on whether I'd like him or not. I'll have to look him up to see if his face rings a bell, because his name means nada to me.

Is this him on the right? It's from "8 Heads in a Duffel Bag" but there's no caption.

Yep, that's him!

Quite the receding hairline, no? ;-D

Quite, but I don't behoove bald men their baldness. I think he'll add some great comic moments to the movie. His humor is dry, but biting.

From today's Variety: IBEN MOST WANTED GAL: Remember the name Iben Hjejle, who savvy Hollywoodites are betting will quickly transform from a walking typographical error to a hot actress. Every agency chased the star of �Mifune,� and she was signed by William Morris�s Motion Picture co-head John Burnham and Gaby Morgerman just as she signed for the female lead of the Working Title romantic comedy �High Fidelity,� which John Cusack, Steve Pink and D.V. Devincentis adapted from the Nick Hornby novel. The film�s directed by Stephe Frears, who cast Hjejle after a chance meeting while he was in Germany accepting the Golden Bear Award for �Hi-Lo Country� and she was being honored as an up and coming star. The WMA contingent flew to Germany to sign the actress, who ought to begin establishing a presence when Sony Pictures Classics releases �Mifune� later this year. ********** She's the one playing Laura. They make her sound like she's a German actress. She's Danish. Need to find a picture of her just in case I run into her on the street. ;-)

Another item in Variety, this time Army Archerd's column, mentioning High Fidelity. It's about time the PR people started placing tidbits about the movie!! This one is about Natasha Gregson Wagner. It says she is Robert Wagner's daughter, but isn't she really Natalie Wood's daughter with her second husband who was named Gregson? "Young Wagner also wound a role in Stephen Frears� "High Fidelity" with John Cusack, Joan Cusack, Iben Hjejle and � Catherine Zeta-Jones (unbilled) �"

Who is Joan Cusack playing? And does he put his sister in EVERYTHING?????

Karen, perhaps Natasha Gregson Wagner needs an auntie in the movie, you would fit right in;) and you are correct, she is not 'technically' Robert Wagner's daughter.

From an unofficial John Cusack website: ...More news about High Fidelity - Barry will be played by Jack Black, Joan Cusack will play Laura's best friend Liz, and Lili Taylor, Beverly D'Angelo, Harold Ramis, and Todd Louiso will also be involved I like Beverly D'Angelo and Harold Ramis. It's like old times again-- bringing back stars from the old 1980's rite de passage comedies!

Harold Ramis and Beverly D'Angelo could be playing Laura's parents???

No, better yet, they are Rob's parents. Would be perfect for that bit when he goes home and the parents are doing the wine sampling thing at the neighbors and reluctantly invite Rob to accompany them to a movie.

Strange...they both seem too young to play anyone's parents. Realisitically, yes, they can play Rob or Laura's parents, but I'd pictured a couple much older than BdA and HR.

BdA played Ed Norton's mom in American History X (Which was fantastic btw!). I can't see Harold Ramis playing Laura's dad. Plus we know what happens to him.

That's why I changed my mind and made them Rob's parents, the closet *swingers*!! Better than Carroll O'Connor, who is playing Minnie Driver's father next door. He looks old enough to play her grandfather. I'm not kidding. He looks real old.

Archie Bunker playing Minnie Driver's dad, hmmmmmmmmmmmm........

(Ann W.) Daily Mail magazine Aishling showed me an article last night that suggested that Liz Hurley might play Bridget Jones!! pleeeese no Good thing Aishling didn't show it to me...or I would have thrown-up all over the Luna Nuova. Next thing we'll hear is that Mike Meyers is going to play MD!!,

Check out a new interview with Helen Fielding at http://www.powells.com/authors/fielding.html Some new comments on BJD sequel and screenplay

Thanks, Bethan, for the new article on HF. The interview was conducted during her last US tour. Definitely some new material, but you wonder how much of it is true. Almost sounds like she and the interviewer are putting each other on. For example: DW: Whenever critics say anything bad about it, they say it's too on the surface. But that overlooks a lot of what's going on underneath. Sentence structures and so forth. It's definitely a grown-up, intelligent voice. Sentence structures? A grown-up, intelligent voice? Pfwah, oof, gaaah, durrr. They seemed obsessed with the ability to write complete sentences. Did like how HF is making fun of her standard sound bites, every single one of which I've heard several times.

One thing I felt after reading this, is that the sequel and screenplay are being taken seriously, by HF and by Working Title. It would be very easy to rush out a BJD2, which would sell on the strength of the original. Similarly it would be very easy to "transplant" a screenplay directly from the dialogue in the book without worrying whether the humour carries. Most of the humour isn't so much in the dialogue, but in the accompanying comments. If they get both book and screenplay right, I don't mind waiting. And I still think the involvement of Andrew Davies is a good thing....he has over 20 years of experience of crafting entertaining scripts.

I've thought it would be difficult to do BJD on the screen only because so much of the humor is what she's thinking. It could be done in cartoon form, with a little thought bubble above her head. Still, I don't think she's involved with the screenplay anymore. Her attempts failed. Now they've brought in the "pros from Dover." ;-D Hey, F. Scott Fitzgerald failed as a screenwriter. Not that I'm putting Helen in that league.

Thanks for the link, Bethan. The article was interesting and as Karen said, it was nice to hear something new from HF, instead of the tired old blurbs. (Karen) Sentence structures? A grown-up, intelligent voice? Pfwah, oof, gaaah, durrr. I had to laugh at this, Karen. I also thought this was a little over the top! But I did find her comment interesting that the incomplete sentences and words BJ is so famous for started out by HF trying to get her column down to the right number of words.

From an article in the Daily Telegraph (7/15) about Stephen Frears: (and yeah, I know this is BJD's topic) Perhaps it's this more recent critical disfavour that makes him say now, "I've been given tremendous opportunities in America; I see it in a rather romantic sense, as full of endless possibilities. In England, which is much more confined, insular, you're forced into corners the whole time. I found, or find England claustrophobic." How reassuring to know, then, that his next film is an adaptation of High Fidelity, a study of north London laddishness by the quintessentially British Nick Hornby, the author of Fever Pitch and About A Boy and a life-long Arsenal supporter. "Yes," confirms Frears. "It's set in Chicago." I wonder for a moment whether he's kidding, but, no: it seems Disney bought the rights to the book, which then passed to the actor John Cusack, a Chicagoan. He adapted it, basing it in his hometown and then turned to Frears, who had directed him in The Grifters. "I read the script with scepticism and was convinced. First of all, Chicago is actually rather like Camden Town: it's a blue-collar, industrial city. Also, they're absolutely bananas about music there. And they're just as primitive in Chicago as they are in Camden Town. So I'm astonished. But I've clearly accepted it. This may be because I've been fooled into it, or it may be perceptive." And he adds (somehow this seems a very Frearsian equivocation), "You'll tell me in a year's time whether I was right or not." ********** Camden Town? Isn't that the setting for "This Year's Love"? Is he kidding? Must have been fooled.

First of all, Chicago is actually rather like Camden Town: it's a blue-collar, industrial city What is this man talking about? Has he ever BEEN to Camden Town...blue collar, industrial... There just must be another Camden Town somewhere that I don't know about.

Stephen Frears: "Chicago is actually rather like Camden Town: it's a blue-collar, industrial city. Also, they're absolutely bananas about music there. And they're just as primitive in Chicago as they are in Camden Town" LOL I don't think ole Stephen has ever been in Camden Town or Chicago. And" bananas about music??"..every city is...Chicago is better known for its theatre. Yes...Karen Camden Town was the setting for This Year's Love...known for their flee market and tatoo parlors!!! What an insult to Chicago!!!

It has to account for why I haven't seen them filming, except for that one club scene that was done at a bar that would be frequented by DePaul University students. My guess is that someone took Stephen on a drive to So. Chicago, right across from the Gary (Indiana) steel mills. ;-D No, music is big here too. All the blues clubs.

OK - this is silly, but it made me laugh for some reason. Could be the late hour and the fact that I'm still at the office. But bear with me Laura, this is actually slightly BJD related :-). I was just reading the latest world wide travel advisory which describes dangerous areas and precautions business travelers should take. Due to idle curiosity I checked out Israel, even though I'm not planning a trip there anytime soon. Here's a quote: "Occasional attacks by singleton Palestinians also mandate that Old Jerusalem be entered only with security escorts and never late at night." Somehow this brings to mind an image of terrorists that are overly concerned with weight gain and finding new boyfriends :-).

Occasional attacks by singleton Palestinians also mandate that Old Jerusalem be entered only with security escorts and never late at night." Somehow this brings to mind an image of terrorists that are overly concerned with weight gain and finding new boyfriends :-). Actually, that's very funny! I picture the same thing!

Very funny, Jana. ;-D

*hee hee* Cute Jana :)

ok- here's another leap: over at DWG a writer is posting a story called Anne de Burgh's Diary, and it's a take off on BJD. Quite amusing actually, you might want to check it out. :)

By now everyone has read this from the NY Daily News: Firth is getting tired of playing hopelessly romantic figures. "I really don't want to go out and make the moony faces anymore," he says. Assuming he actually said this (one never knows), what might our chances be of seeing him play Mark Darcy?

Mark Darcy is a lot of things, but moony he ain't. A top-notch human-rights barrister?! Bite your tongue, girl!!

Excuse me?

Oh, I do...I do!!! ;-D

I was not asking you to excuse me, KJArt. And I'm not biting anything. I believe it to be a reasonable question. There's more to a romantic character than simply moony looks. Fitzwilliam Darcy's considered romantic, why not Mark?

CF isn't goin to take BJD... not because of the romantic hero implication.... but because there's bound to be a shag or two......(after the Christmas Curry Lunch...in the hallway!!!)

He could make a stipulation in his contract if he feels so adamant about it. Was HF that explicit about the shags in her book/columns? Seems to me they were implied...thus in the movie too.....(but not if Andrew Davies has anything to say about it!! ;-D ) Question is, how much would they be willing to cede to get the genuine article?? (Again assuming they would have to cede anything.) Parenthetical: we probably shouldn't be throwing "shag" around so lightly ... in the U.S. it IS casual, but I "read somewhere" that in the UK it's considered even worse than the "f" word!! We don't want to be offending our UK contingent, now do we?

Sorry, Eileen, I missed your post. I don't think ODB objects to ANY romantacism in his characters, just to the adolescent, "moony", hopelessly smitten ones. After all, despite how Karen defines him, I find Paul's role VERY romantic, but hardly "moony" and ODB was perfectly willing to do a "bed scene" without its becoming a "shag" scene. And until I see MLSF (and, knock wood, SLOW) I am going to reserve judgment on how much of that unwillingness he MEANT. And Mark has a certain dignity that doesn't p t hium into that category.

(KJ) After all, despite how Karen defines him Hey, you picking a fight with me now? ;-D Food fight!!! At his advanced age, any adolescent mooniness would be ridiculous. What I would expect to see is *smoldering lust.* That would be more appropriate. That being the case, Mark Darcy would be the same as Mr. Darcy in attitude. I love thinking about the scene at his parents' anniversary party, where Colin...whoops Mark cuts in on raging hormoned teen cousin (?) dancing with Bridget outside in the yard. Visions of a potentially suavely romantic Darcy here. ;-D

we probably shouldn't be throwing "shag" around so lightly ... in the U.S. it IS casual, but I "read somewhere" that in the UK it's considered even worse than the "f" word!! We don't want to be offending our UK contingent, now do we? Shag away! For my part the F word is much worse, tho' these days people (including ODB, I regret to say) use the F-word in every sentence (that's me showing my age...). BTW, I thought shag was a UK slang word or am I wrong?

From the Guardian today, a Corelli update: � Nicolas Cage has decided to pass on the film adaptation of Louis de Bernieres' World War II romance Captain Corelli's Mandolin. It's reported that the film's producers - including Notting Hill director Roger Michell - and Cage himself were not able to work out a schedule that would allow for the actor's involvement due to other commitments. ****** Do I have a huge sigh of relief? ;-)

All mooniness and romanticism aside, as much as we pine about Colin playing Mark, HF's Mark Darcy is nothing more than an updated Fitzwilliam Darcy, which he's already done to perfection. *Virtually ducking those hurling rocks now* Karen, that is good news about CCM. Now if we can hear the same about Ewan McGregor...(uh oh, this opens the door for Roberto Begnini!).

(Eileen)Re: CCM ..oh, this opens the door for Roberto Begnini!). Or if they go the Italian route...godferbid, the guy who played Nostromo. Re; Shagging..We don't want to be offending our UK contingent, now do we? (Allison) Shag away! Wheww!! Had me worried for a minute...the way we throw that word around...I never equated it with the F word...though it means the same. Yes, it is a British slang word, Allison, but it has become popular usage in the US.

oh GAWD, if they cast Roberto Begnini I'll hurl!!! I HATED LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL!!! yuck!!!!

And I (and every one else who saw it) hated his schtick at the Academy Awards (and apparently all the other awards show he attended). What a phony! Double Yuck!!!

(Laura)I HATED LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL!! Ditto. (Lynda) What a phony! Ditto.

I don't think I need to post. ;-) (good thing Moon isn't around)

Am I the only one to disagree? I liked Life is Beautiful very much; thought it had the right balance of comicity and gentleness. Of course some things were unsubtle or downright impossible, but all in all I was entertained and moved. Benigni's performance at the Oscars... well, he gave an interview on BBC world and acted the same way - "the intense italian" stereotype. But it wasn't worse than Gweenie's hysteria, was it?

(Eileen) All mooniness and romanticism aside, as much as we pine about Colin playing Mark, HF's Mark Darcy is nothing more than an updated Fitzwilliam Darcy, which he's already done to perfection. Agreed! Now Daniel.....love to see him do the absent skirt schtik. * Cowering with you while the rocks are hurled * "the intense italian" stereotype. But it wasn't worse than Gweenie's hysteria, was it? Depends on which you think was more scripted.

(Karen) Hey, you picking a fight with me now? ;-D Food fight!!! Yeh...creamed carrots at 20 paces!! ;-D (Heide)...where Colin...whoops Mark cuts in on raging hormoned teen cousin (?) dancing with Bridget outside in the yard. Visions of a potentially suavely romantic Darcy here. ;-D Yeh...after which she won't dance, he starts pacing the patio with his hands in his hair and comes out with the suave, romantic opening: "read any good books lately? (hee hee)

The thing about Life is Beautiful is that it was SO ridiculous!!! He threw scenes in there as an afterthought, because he wanted the crowd to go "awwwwwwwwww". His wife was good, the music I liked. Best use of Offenbach ever. But story wise and acting wise, PUHLEEZE, Nick Nolte deserved that Oscar!!! I've finished my rant. Heide, I think CF would make a GREAT Daniel!!! *and uh, you've always said you'd like him to play that role anyway;)*

Oh dear, have to disagree with you a bit about Affliction (Nick Nolte's role). I haven't seen Life is Beautiful so cannot compare the two performances, but it has been a long time since I have despised a movie as much as Affliction. I usually like Nick N's work very much but thought he was just scenery chewing and a one-note baddie in this one. James Coburn who played his father was even more like Snidely Whiplash (and really got the Oscar for lifetime achievement, not for this role IMHO). I'm a sucke for subtle nuances which explains my devotion to a certain Mr. Firth. But Laura, I seem to be in the minority as the Academy loved Nick N. and Affliction, so maybe it's just me :-).

Eek, that cut off word was supposed to be sucker.

hmmm, I would've given it to Ian McKellen myself and to Ed Harris for supporting. Haven't like Nolte since Rich Man Poor Man. ;-p

Hmmm... I just saw Gods & Monsters and well, it was an okay, movie, not great. I didn't think Ian McKellen did anything amazing in that role. Nick Nolte is definitely an underrated actor. NN did look VERY GOOD in RMPM (uh, I saw it in repeats;))

IMO after reading Colin's comments in Parade yesterday ("it's boring to play the same kiind of role again and again"), it's a given that he won't play Mark Darcy. I don't think he'll play Daniel either, Heide (too much like Wessex--the baddie). *Virtually digging a foxhole now* oh GAWD, if they cast Roberto Begnini... Ladies, please! I was being facetious!! In your wildest dreams, could you see Begnini as Correlli? "Bon giorno, Principessa Pelagia..."

Don't worry, we know facetious....very, very well, Principessa! ;-o About the Mark Darcy thing, this weekend on Siskel & Ebert, Rog and Joe Morgenstern (WSJ critic) were reviewing Inspector Gadget. One of them made the comment that it was much too early in Rupe's career to do self-parodying parts. And what would Mark Darcy be? A self-parodying part.

At this point...I will gladly take him in a role that he isn't a baddie,a loon, a creep, gay, a cuckold, a two-timer (ATA),a slob (F). Please, Please, Please,...give us "boring normal".

(Evelyn) Please,...give us "boring normal". That is what we all want ....but that is because we want HIM not all these characters he insists on playing;-)) The trouble with CF is that he decided to become an actor when he could have been my...bank manager, dentist, personal fitness instructor, masseur...

Okay, I saw Inspector Gadget.... IT sucked. I mean this was the worst movie I have ever seen. Now my daughter knew my feelings on this movie because, well, I fell asleep! I was excited to see Rupe play a baddie, but it was pathetic and the worst part. I think there will be a sequel! BTW, DO see Blair Witch Project, it's WONDERFUL. Now to make this jive with BJD, how about Rupert Everett as Daniel?? He can play straight.

I'm drinking a cup of coffee now, having just come back from seeing the Blair Witch. *yawn yawn* Could barely stay awake, especially with all those blackout scenes. Would've been so nice to take a nap, but the guy next to me had this distinctive odor about him. ick!!

Rupert Everett as Daniel? Oh, I think that's fabulous casting Laura! I stayed away from Inspector Gadget this weekend, (*pats back*) but did see Drop Dead Gorgous. Laughed myself silly :)

Well, as long as this is developing into Spring's VV..... I saw EYES WIDE SHUT last week. It's really an OK movie...not a masterpiece but not bad. Very visual (not just nudie), script pretty poor. Nicole Kidman is terrific ...Tom Cruise...same ole, same ole...the guy is always Top Gun... double standard...frontal female nudity...no male!!Don't know how they could rate this film R...this is NC 17 if I ever saw one ( and I never have....most of them are soft-porn). Oddly enough, it was not erotic IMO.

(Allison) The trouble with CF is that he decided to become an actor when he could have been my...bank manager, dentist, personal fitness instructor, masseur... Brava Allison, I love it!

(Karen) And what would Mark Darcy be? A self-parodying part. Which is precisely why I think CF would be tempted...it is, rather, a Darcy-parodying part. I am hoping he can't resist the opportunity for the dig!!! (Laura)...with BJD, how about Rupert Everett as Daniel?? He can play straight. Laura, brilliant casting!!!!! What better face-off than CF Vs RE?? Oh, I'd love to see these two get together again on the same screen...they've both come so far!! ;-D

Karen, Blair Witch was brilliant!!! Inventive, original, scary as all hell!!!! I definitely see this one going up for Original screenplay at the Oscars. (It was all improvised). THE ENDING.... WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

(Eileen)... HF's Mark Darcy is nothing more than an updated Fitzwilliam Darcy, which he's already done to perfection. (KJ)... comes out with the suave, romantic opening: "read any good books lately? (hee hee) Yup. A perfect repeat of Fitzwilliam Darcy... 8-D

Oh yeah, Karen, one other thing, Jimmy figured it out, but with BWP, think of Hansel and Gretl, it makes more sense.

(Evelyn) Tom Cruise...same ole, same ole...the guy is always Top Gun I agree. Or 'A Few Good Men': "I want the truth!" (to which Nicholson responds "You can't handle the truth"). Tom has a line in every movie which he says exactly this way. It's in the EWS commercial!

Yes, I generally agree with you about Mr. Cruise, but I thought he provided some lovely, subtle character changes in Jerry McGuire - some of the best work of his career IMHO. Then again, maybe I was just distracted by his pretty face :-). Evelyn's right, this is becoming the Spring's Virt Views board. Oh well, we have to pass the time productively until there is some BJD news, don't we?!?!?

Fom August's Cosmopolitan Report on "Hip to be Brit" and GP and CB winning awards for impersonating us Brits. Comments on GP's roles and CB in E and AIH AND the leading role in the forthcoming film of BJD. Enjoy your weekend Evelyn!!

Hi, thanks for that Aishling, was the report about CB & BJD definite or just speculation again.

Interview with Helen Fielding...nothing really new except she's still hoding out for Colin as Mark Darcy!! http://www.laweekly.com/ink/99/36/books-taylor.shtml

Working Title say that BJD will start shooting in a couple of months (October).

Thanks, Bethan. Did you ask when they will know who will be in it? Doesn't seem likely that CF will do Mark. Schedulewise, it is a smallish part relative to Bridget, her pals and Daniel, but that would be getting near his Donmar run dates.

Karen, OT why are you keeping us in suspense, I am dying to know what you thought of MLSF last night!!

No, I didn't ask about casting, Karen. They wouldn't tell me, anyway! I still think that CF will do Mark. It's a Universal film which will have automatic world-wide distribution, and he must see the advantages of that (witness MLSF having to prove itself in the market, and, of course, SLOW!) BJD must be shot in London, and the Mark D scenes could always be scheduled first. Judi Dench filmed SIL whulst doing a London theatre run...the two can be combined. The reason I think he'll do it is that the screenpl y is by Andrew Davies and I can't think who else could play (or would be acceptable as)"Mr Darcy"!

Nobody else! I hope!

Hey!! I want Colin to play Mark too. Here's hoping that all the writers (HF and AD) have some input and clout.

It would appear Cate B is in discussion for every movie coming up. More conflicts in dates too and same production company. From The Hollywood Reporter: Johnny Depp is committed to star with Christina Ricci in Sally Potter's World War II story "The Man Who Cried" for Universal-based Working Title Films. Cate Blanchett and John Turturro are also deep in discussions to join the $20 million film, which is slated to begin shooting next month. Potter, who helmed the acclaimed "Orlando," will write and direct the film, which follows a young woman who flees Germany for Paris in hopes of eventually making it to the United States. Potter and Christopher Sheppard's Adventure Pictures will produce. Tim Bevan and Eric Fellner's Working Title will finance with Canal Plus, which will have world rights outside of English-speaking territories and Benelux.

There was an item on Radio 5 yesterday (about movie news) on Cate B. She's been offered the lead in "Charlotte Gray" the movie version of the bestseller by Sebastian Faulks, about a woman who goes undercover to France in World War 2 to search for her airman lover who has gone missing in action. It's to be directed by John Madden (a couple of good male roles (supporting, of course!) there as well!). The reporter then said something like "Cate is also reported to have been offered the lead in the soon-to-b -filmed BJD..Colin Firth is expected to co-star". Cate B. seems to be in pole position at the moment...her only problem seems to be deciding which roles to turn down!

The reporter then said something like "Cate is also reported to have been offered the lead in the soon-to-b -filmed BJD..Colin Firth is expected to co-star". Don't want to give you all the impression that I am in a grumpy mood today but what is all the fuss about CB? I found Elizabeth unwatchable (though that was not particularly her fault) and in Plenty she was fairly dire. "Acting by Numbers". Much too shrill and self conscious. Maybe ODB could learn a thing or two. Perhaps that is what it takes to get on in Hollywood.

OK, Grumpy here's my take on CB... ;-D Like you, I didn't think the movie Elizabeth was all that good, but I did think CB was excellent. I walked out feeling that that was a best actress of the year performance I had just seen. The reason everyone wants her for their films is that she has demonstrated tremendous range as an actress, unlike her co-nominee Gwynnie. Look at the variability of her roles. She does plain and homely (Paradise Rd, Oscar and Lucinda), Long Island housewife (Pushing Tin), intelligent and steadfast wife (Ideal Husban ). She's demonstrated she can do costume drama, historical uplifting tearjerker to intelligent comedy. Gwynnie, on the other hand, has not. She's hasn't shown her stretch in terms of characters. Shakespeare was a stretch, but she was still playing the beautiful upper class girl. Don't stone me, but CB has a chameleon-like ability too. She doesn't look the same or act the same in her varied roles. Just my two cents. ;-D

The CB phenomenon interests me. Obviously I didn't see her in "Plenty" but I think (from reading the rather lukewarm reviews) that Allison's assessment is spot on. Yet there was a terrific build-up for "Plenty", the run was extended, it was a sell-out and the adverts all managed to stress the few positive references made in the reviews. So CB is established as a great stage actress. Ditto, "Elizabeth"...didn't particularly like it, but the role of Elizabeth was a plum...it would have been difficult for an reasonably good (and CB is this) actress to shine. Where CB is fortunate is that she's now being inundated with choice leading roles in Hollywood backed movies, which will be seen worldwide, so her reputation will go from strength to strength. There's a lot of luck...neither CF or JE (both better actors) have had this sort of breakthrough in movies nor the sort of defining roles which enable them to do justice to theit talent. My three cents worth! PS. If CF has to find a niche, it's playing Mr Darcy! I just want to see him playing one more authoritative, rich, heroic handsome alpha-male!

correction...it would have been difficult for any reasonably good actrss NOT to shine

Here's the URL of an interview done with HF on CNN International. (August 6, 1999) It's three parts. http://cnn.com/books/news/9908/06/helen.fielding/

(bethan)it would have been difficult for any reasonably good actrss NOT to shine Indeed... Forceful characters bring actors out. I've said it before, if Colin had played Wessex less "naturally", like a more caricatural (?) villain, people would have noticed him more. Not that I would have preferred him to do so, mind you!

Thanks Jana for the link. Was definitely done during her last book tour of the US in June. She's wearing the same suit that I saw her in. And she mentioned that the sequel was due one year ago Monday. Didn't say anything new about the casting. Told same old story about wanting to cast an unknown, but this time she embellished it by saying that she wanted to go up to the girl at the gym who is doing nothing and offer her the role.

(Allison)...but what is all the fuss about CB? I found Elizabeth unwatchable (though that was not particularly her fault) I agree with you and Bethan...'n Gi. Really didn't want to say so before....yeah...I do wish Jennifer would get offered those roles.But she's not bankable enough. "Elizabeth" was a plum role.Kate Winslett, Emily Watson both tried out for it. And any one would have been as good!! I saw AIH and was not blown away by CB's portrayl as the wife...she played it so bland ...the love scenes with Jeremy Northam (fergawdsakes!)were positively neutral.No chemistry there. "Paint-by-number"-acting. I'm glad that filmed bombed...but sadly MLSF came right on its heels. IMO it had a negative effect on MLSF.

Am not disagreeing that another good actress *could* do Elizabeth, the point is that CB did it and got the acclaim, the nominations, the awards and therefore the script offers. ;-D As I recall, she got the part of Elizabeth because of Oscar and Lucinda. Re: AIH, I don't think I said she was brilliant in it (no one particularly was). My point is that she's shown her versatility, something Jennifer has been trying to do. And I don't put Winslet in the same category of talented actresses with CB or Emily atson.

From The Guardian, August 19, 1999: Work in progress Film producer David Parfitt It's still terribly early days, but among the projects I've got bubbling away, I'm working on a movie adaptation of Bridget Jones' Diary. Now when I say early days, I mean it - we're basically in pre-pre-production - but taking these first steps (knocking the script into shape, finding our Bridget, generally ensuring everything is on schedule) is something I relish. We're lucky in that our director Sharon Maguire - aside from being enormously talented - has an unusually close relationship with the subject matter. She was Shazza in Helen Fielding's original book (I believe the phrase "fuckwittage" was her invention), and she's got a fresh take on what could potentially have seemed slightly dated and clich�d. For me, one of the attractions of the project is that it's obviously a break from the period pieces which take up so much room on my CV (I've co-produced, amongst others, The Madness of King George, Much Ado About Nothing and Henry V). In particular, it was important for me to find something which was radically different to my last movie, Shakespeare In Love; I'm not, of course, going to feign modesty here - I'm enormously proud of Shakespeare - but it was important to prove I could work with material which was set in the 20th century! Having said that, it's great that I could be involved in a film which has hopefully helped make it easier for British films to get out there and find their audience. What we could do with - and not necessarily from government - is a way of letting development money flow a little easier; ideally, you want to be able to say "OK, the script's ready - let's get it made". Because getting it made (whatever it may be) is what a producer's life is all about. � David Parfitt is the co-producer of Shakespeare In Love

Thanks, Karen, this sounds promising - at least they *are* working on it!

While visiting Oxford, I had the manager/buyer for Blackwells (which is an important bookstore), ring up Picador to inquire about the release date of the next BJD book. Their contact at Picador assured us that there is no set date for its release. If the script is still in pre-pre production, I am sure they will want to hold off its release at least until the pre-production stages so that the time difference does not amount to two years. I am happy to see that they want to cast the perfect Bridget, I think we might trust Shazzer on this one.

They must really want this guy!! Cage plays 'Mandolin' again (Variety) After scheduling conflicts caused him to walk away from the project once (Daily Variety, July 22), Nicolas Cage is back in negotiations to star in the Working Title/Universal feature "Captain Corelli�s Mandolin." "Notting Hill" helmer Roger Michell is directing the adaptation of Louis De Berniere� novel, a sweeping love story set on the idyllic Greek isle of Cephalonia during World War II. Cage previously entered negotiations to star in the pic nearly three months ago (Daily Variety, June 7), but later dropped out due to scheduling conflicts. It�s not clear what has been resolved since that time. However, in July, the actor added another starring role to his upcoming roster when he signed to topline Beacon Communications� "Family Man" for Universal. "Family Man" is slated to go before the cameras in December, leaving Cage available to shoot "Mandolin" in April in Italy, although these dates are likely to change.

There was a good article about BJD in the paper Sunday. It seems that there have been several pirate copies written. None of which measures up. The writer really loves the book and recommended that we forget the others.

It's done. Per Variety: Cage just pacted for "Captain Correlli's Mandolin" with "Notting Hill" helmer Roger Michel.

...Cage just pacted for "Captain Correlli's Mandolin" I am not pleased. But maybe they'll get MEM for the female lead. She's even of Italian heritage...but then so is he.

Pelagia was Greek, not Italian. No matter, MEM could do it. Cage's performance in Moonstruck comes to mind here. Can't see Correlli with a wooden hand, though :-P PS. OT (but then, so is this whole discussion) Ever notice the kitchen in Moonstruck? It bears *strong* resemblance to another notable Italian kitchen: white tile walls, pics of saints hanging...I was looking for the old radio on the shelf (alas, no DB pouring espresso, only Olympia, Vincent and Cher).

Don Johnson as Julio, Gi?? There's one we haven't heard before! I was thinking about the person who proposed Ricky Martin for Julio a few months ago--bet Working Title couldn't afford him now, even though he is *way* too young.