1. david duchovny (like, duh!) 2. christopher lampert (woohoo--esp. in greystoke) 3. ralph fiennes (think that's the spelling)-loved him best in W.H. -- wait, who all can we include? can they be anyone?

4. andy garcia

We been drooled!

ha ha! Had the tables turned in your own conference!

hey, terry, it was about babes, ok...the only topic in drool that concerns me is david's and i get no feedback there...*giggle*

Kinda like in ghostbusters where they get "slimmed"; can drooling be that much different. Or maybe "slimming" is advanced level drooling?

slimmed? get skinny? or do you mean slimed? get slime all over you? *giggle* drooling is not my style, not very attractive either-would indicate you have a slobber control problem and who'd wanna hang with someone like that?

(drats, shot down already for something I can't control... everyone is just too darn picky...)

I meant slimed, though getting slimmed would be a good thing.

Well, following the influx of drool-like stuff from our, ahem, lady guests, maybe I can post some TESTOSTERONE!!!!! 1. Claire Danes 2. Alicia Silverstone 3. Jenny McCarthy 4. Claudia Schiffer 5. Claire Danes ;)

alright alright, at the risk of being slimed... who the heck is Claire Danes? Is this someone I should know?

Mike must really dig her, two positions on his chart and all.

stacey, she's the one from My So Called Life, Little Women (Beth, I believe), and, of late, Romeo and Juliet. Mike, you really go for them young babes, huh?

well, she's not the cute in My So Called Life, she played Angela...

oops, should have said cute one in...

who was the cute one in my so called life wer?

doh....stacey....doh i'm tempted to ban you from the conf. for that faux pas ;)) claire is

i went to see Romeo and Juliet again on Saturday night. Nip to topic 25 in the movies conference.

no, i know who claire is. i just thought they were all cute. was wondering about you guys!

My top 3 babes, at the moment, are the women who played the lead roles in the NBC production of "Merlin". Coming on the heels of Eeyores birthday, I was stirred by these ancient legends and the fine portrayals by these outstanding actresses (quotes from NBCs website): Isabella Rossellini as Nimue - Isabella Rossellini began her career before the camera as a broadcast journalist for RAI-Italian Television. At the relatively advanced age of 28, she became a model, working with photographers such as Richard Avedon, Helmut Newton, Peter Lindburgh and Steven Meisel. For fourteen years, she was the exclusive model for Lancome cosmetics. Rossellinis American film debut was opposite Mikhail Baryshnikov and Gregory Hines in Taylor Hackfords White Nights (1985). In 1986, she starred opposite Dennis Hopper as Dorothy Vallens, the tortured lounge singer, in David Lynchs haunting and controversial Blue Velvet. Other films include the romantic comedy Cousins (opposite Ted Danson) and Wild at Heart (also from David Lynch). In 1992, she was featured in Death Becomes Her, opposite Meryl Streep, Goldie Hawn and Bruce Willis, and Fearless, opposite Jeff Bridges and Rosie Perez. She starred as Big Nose Kate in Lawrence Kasdans Wyatt Earp (opposite Kevin Costner and Dennis Quaid), and in Immortal Beloved with Gary Oldman. Most recently, Rossellini starred as a two-timing girlfriend in Big Night, co-directed by Stanley Tucci and Campbell Scott, which won Best Screenplay at the 1996 Sundance Film Festival; and in Abel Ferraras The Funeral. Miranda Richardson as Mab - One of the most versatile actresses working today, Miranda Richardson has received accolades for her work in film, television and on stage. A native of Lancashire, England, she originally aspired to be a veterinary surgeon. However, animals lost a fine doctor when she decided to go to drama school and was accepted by the Bristol Old Vic Theater School. Graduation was followed by several years of repertory theater. While playing in The Life of Einstein at the Dukes Playhouse in Lancaster, director Mike Newell cast her as Ruth Ellis, the last woman to be hanged in England in Dance with a Stranger. Although not a box office success, the film garnered her several British film awards and brought Richardson to the attention of Steven Spielberg, who cast her in his WWII epic Empire of the Sun. A myriad of film roles followed, including Enchanted April (1992), for which she received her first Golden Globe Award (Best Actress in a Comedy), Neil Jordans controversial The Crying Game (1992), Damage (1992, Oscar nomination - Best Actress), Tom and Viv (1994, Golden Globe nomination - Best Film Actress), Robert Altmans Kansas City (1996) and The Evening Star (1996) opposite Shirley MacLaine. She will also play the voice of Anna in Warner Bros. animated version of The King & I. and Helena Bonham Carter as Morgan Le Fey - From her debut as the teenage Queen of England in 1985s Lady Jane, Helena Bonham Carter has bewitched audiences with her remarkable talent and a beauty that seems to be drawn from an Edwardian painting. Time magazines Richard Corliss has called her " ... our modern antique goddess." A native of London, Bonham Carter is the great-granddaughter of H.H. Asquith, who served as Englands Prime Minister from 1908 to 1916. Her father was a Harvard-educated banker, and her mother a psychotherapist. Bonham Carter was accepted at Cambridge University, but after landing the lead in Lady Jane at eighteen, decided to pursue acting as a career. Her next film (and the first of four she has made based on E.M. Forster novels), A Room with a View, first brought her to the attention of American audiences. She has also starred in The Vision (1987), Francesco (1989), Kenneth Branaghs Hamlet (1990), Howards End (1992), Mary Shelleys Frankenstein (1994), Mighty Aphrodite (1995) and Twelfth Night (1996). Bonham Carter is currently garnering rave reviews for two new films, Keep the Aspidistra Flying (written by George Orwell) and The Wings of the Dove (based on a Henry James novel). For American television, Bonham Carter starred as Marina Oswald, wife of Kennedy assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, in the NBC movie Fatal Deception (1993).

the one who played Reyanne(sp?), she was also on Coach, and in Escape from L.A... although, at times, Ricky was pretty damn adorable...

CAST Sam Neill: Merlin Isabella Rossellini: Nimue Miranda Richardson: Mab/Lady of the Lake Martin Short: Frik Rutger Hauer: Vortigern Helena Bonham Carter: Morgan Le Fey Sir John Gielgud: King Constant James Earl Jones: Mountain King Paul Curran: Arthur Jeremy Sheffield: Lancelot Lena Heady: Guinevere Rachel Colover: Lady Igraine Billie Whitelaw: Ambrosia Dilys Lane: Gudrun Emma Lewis: Elissa Talula Sheppard: Lady Friend Janine Eser: Lady Elaine Alice Hamilton: Young Morgan Le Fey Camilla Oultram: Young Girl at Fair Agnieszka Koson: Young Nimue Susan Rayner: Village Woman Charlotte Church: Singer Is it in the above list? Add Lena Heady to my list and I'm scratching my head on Reyanne(sp?). Could it be Rhiannon like in the Fleetwood Mac song? Ricky? Can you elaborate some more, wer?

yes, probably... in celtic mythology, she (rhiannon) was the daughter of heyfeydd, and wife to both pwyll and mannannan (each of whom's mythology is intertwined with that of arthur)...

My apologies... my response #21 should have been prefaced with in re response #'s 14, 15, 16, and 19 (I'll be quiet now)

No, don't be quiet! I made a tape of Merlin. Where would I look for Rhiannon and the other name you mentioned? What were they doing?

wow....some vampy types there, terry....need a bit of domination, do we? ;)

Did you see this show Mike? Did they carry it in England?

not to my knowledge.

i heard it sucked :) (but i like isabella and helena) wer: i know who you're talking about. apparantly everybody else got wrapped up in the King Arthur thing. i liked her too! ricky was cute too!

Can you give me more clues as to who these other two cast members were? What did they do in the show?

reyanne and ricky were castmembers from My So-Called Life. Man did things get confused!! don't ask me what their real names are. The gal who played reyanne also played the mother of the little boy that Coach adopted on the sitcom Coach. You there? Got it?

Got it, except how can I place them in the show the other night, what roles did they play in Merlin?

none. wer and i were discussing the cute gals on my so-called life and in the middle of it, merlin showed up!! *smile*

Man, did I get confused! OK. OK. I get it.

LOL! This topic was beginning to look like Keystone Cops, or "Who's on first?" there for a while! I didn't see "Merlin," but I loved "Big Night" (which featured Isabella). God, she looks just like her mother, doesn't she?

yeah... (she favors her a great deal)... their beauty shares some of the same qualities, but bergman's was more intense, i think... (beauty like her's is rarified stuff)

did i put lizzy montgomery into my list?

not sure, but you did mention her somewhere, cause you were upset that's she's deceased...

Wow, you'd put dead people on your list?

doesn't mean they weren't babes! oh, and another beauty, juliette binoche, she is, she's just amazing!

If dead people are ok, what about your top 5 historical babes? that could be interesting....

open a topic!

hey, it just occurred to me no one has mentioned our beloved Janet Reno...

Who is she? Sorry, I no nothing about American political figures.

Oh, DAMN!!! This is pathetic. I KNow nothing about American political figures, Wer.

LOL! Great photo, wer! She's the US Attorney General. I love it that you knew she was in politics, Riette...never suspected she might be a popular entertainer, huh? I should find a picture of Maryland Senator Barbara Mikulski and post it--she makes Janet Reno look like Claudia Schiffer.

well she's a chick. maybe we could invite her here for a guest appearance?

Who? Barbara Mikulski, Janet Reno or Claudia? Oh, last night Ruby Wax interviewed Pamela Anderson. Jesus!

LOL!! I can only imagine...

Don't do that to yourself. It was the kind of stuff that could give a person nightmares! I threw tons of cherries at the screen, and then was pi$$ed off afterwards for having to clean it up again, but I could not help it!

doesn't all the janet reno bashing you hear strike you as being just the least bit sexist? i mean, anyone ever take a good look at george schultz or john mitchell or any number of truly hideously grotesque male cabinet members over the years? how come she's singled out?

'Cos she's cleverer than all of them!

You are right, Nick, of course it is because she's a woman and doesn't meet the accepted standard for female beauty. But it doesn't matter if a man is ugly, fat or bald. (BTW, nice to see you--I've missed you!!)

We could post all those fat baldies into drool - sure the ladies over there will love 'em! I'm sure people only become ugly, fat or bald if they act ugly, fat and bald.

I turn pretty ugly, fat and bald at least once a month!

i think the thing with janet reno isn't just her (evident, i admit) lack of beauty... i can think of any number of female public figures similarly, ummmm, challenged... what really sets people off about her is a couple of things, but mainly that she "acts like a man"... she projects an unapologetic toughness that still isn't entirely socially acceptable for women... just about every redneck i know (and i seem to know inordinate numbers of them) is convinced she's a lesbian, which may or may not be true, and is of course entirely irrelevent, except that it demonstrates the depth of the problem... (yahoo-ism being alive and well in austin, tx., and most everywhere else, i suspect)... it's a little troubling, though, and puzzling too, when i hear such comments emanating from women... regardless of one's political orientation, janet reno has been at least an adequate attorney general, i think, and that she's maintained her dignity throughout speaks well for her... (VERY well, considering the venomous and personal nature of the ridicule she's endured)... (good to see you, too, autumn)

SNL has been merciless with her over the years.

You make a very good point, Nick, that it's the combination of her un-feminine appearance and conduct that draws criticism (which brings out the lowest comon denominator in most men: "she must be a lesbian.") Women can either look tough or act tough, but not both.

At least she can't be accused of being politically correct then - a sure plus!

and she does take responsibility for her actions, a rare thing these days. i could care less that she's un-feminine or what her sexual orientation is, to tell you the truth!

I agree whole heartedly. And as far as I'm concerned there is only human sexuality. Homo, Lesbian, are words of no signifigance really. Humans are sexual beings, and should enjoy being sexual beings - that is all that matters.

WOW, girl! I didn't know you felt that way! You're just full of surprises, aren't ye? Cool ones, I might add...

unfortunately, too many people use that excuse to do whatever they please. there are sexual urges that should be controlled and not acted upon. but that's for another topic, i guess-maybe philosophy?

I think any sexuality is good as long as nobody gets hurt physically or emotionally.

well, i was referring to pedophiles and such.....

I'm not sure if one can refer to that as sexuality. I mean it's just a perversion, right? I think there's a big difference between sexuality and perversion.

(as anyone familiar with roman polanski can attest)

yeah, i guesso, it's more about power and stuff. (and a serious mental problem, no doubt).

There are sick people in the world!

Top five babes: 5. Madeline Stowe 4. Lucy Alexis Liu 3. Vanessa Williams 2. Tia Carrere 1. Mariah Carey

Wow Madelaine Stowe made it to the top 5, what is your particular attraction for her?

well, being of the female persuasion, i think it's great that john selected madeline stowe. i have always thought her to be beautiful! but mariah carey? i think she's vain and stuck on herself. but, that's me!

Madeline Stowe is a classical beauty--and she can act. I've often wondered what she was doing married to Brian Benben, but that just proves she isn't shallow since she is both better looking and probably richer than he is. He did play a stud-muffin loser (an oxymoron?) in "Dream On," but he is funny. So she must have a great sense of humor, as well. Now that I've answered that question, I no longer wonder what she is doing with Brian Benben. If one doubts her smoldering sexuality watch "Stakeout," "U lawful Entry," and "The Last of the Mohicans." If you are still unconvinced; get some glasses. Wolf's point on Mariah Carey is well-taken. She does play the diva to the hilt. I also don't care that much for her music. She has a fabulous voice and could be what Aretha Franklin was, music wise, but chooses instead to be a pop tart. But still, there's no denying that the gene pool made her something to look at.

But number one?

Are you talking about Mariah Carey or Madeline Stowe, because you hadn't mentioned Mariah (my number one) before. YOu just questioned my choice of Madeline (number five). By the way, the order of these and even who is in them is subjective and changeable upon mood and whim. I wish I knew how to import a photo or two into here. I've tried, but have been unsuccessful.

John, I will email the command string and what you must put in it...for posting photos.

Thank you...all hail MarciaMarciaMarcia!

Please John, try what I just sent you. It is magical to watch your first HTML picture emerge and bloom on a page forever. Go to it, then I will do it if you fail...

You try John, on Drool 61 for practice. The next one YOU are going to do yourself.

Let's see if this thing works.

Thank you, Marcia. And YESSSSS! I know she's not a rocket scientist, but it's not like I'll ever have a chance. To quote Billy Joel: "It's just a fantasy, it's not the real thing." Hurt me, Baby! Make me write bad checks!

I misunderstood your directions. I thought I was going to send from the site you had posted the picture, not from here. It's too late and it was my first day back at school today (my real job during the week, as Marcia pointed out earlier). Considering how awful Hawaii's public school's are, I almost wish you hadn't.

Marcia, I misunderstood your directions. I thought I was going to send from the site you had posted the picture, not from here. It's too late and it was my first day back at school today (my real job during the week, as you pointed out earlier). Considering how awful Hawaii's public schools are, I almost wish you hadn't. Although in the last year, I wrote recommendation letters for three of my former students to Harvard and all were admitted. So was I--to the loony bin!

Marcia, I misunderstood your directions. I thought I was going to send from the site you had posted the picture, not from here. It's too late and it was my first day back at school today (my real job during the week, as you pointed out earlier). Considering how awful Hawaii's public schools are, I almost wish you hadn't. Although in the last year, I wrote recommendation letters for three of my former students to Harvard and all were admitted. So was I--to the loony bin! Oh, that's COMMITTED!

You would be my number one Babe, but Ray is an ex-Marine and I don't want to die!

Okay, I think I got the hang of this. Let's see if I can post some of my other Top Five Babes. If I chant the magic mantra, will #3, Vanessa Williams, appear?

I'm having trouble getting into Madeline Stowe's site (I don't have Prodigy and they are @##$%%^$$##s! In the meantime, I present #4: Lucy Alexis Liu (best pic I could find, but doesn't do her face justice.

Yes, I'm mad about Madeline! By the way, it is still her birthday, Hawaii time as I post this. Age: 41 D.O.B.: 8/18/58, Eagle Rock, Ca. Happy birthday, Maddy! I've listed you as #5, but today, you're #1!

Ah, the sweet smell of success. Here is #2, Tia Carrere! That means all my Top Five fantasies are posted photographically here.

Here's another fabulous babe who deserves more than honorable mention. I only had five spots on my top five list, but I LOVE her. Here she is, as Guinevere in the movie "First Knight," Julia Ormond:

you forgot juliette binoche...

Wolf, With all due respect, no I didn't. Although I have tremendous respect for her acting talent (even though I must admit "The English Patient" bored me to tears--not an easy admission if you wish to be seen as cerebral--I did love her in "Damage"), she'd make my top 100 on babeosity, which isn't bad, but isn't anywhere near the top five. Tia makes my list because I coached her in Bobby Sox softball 20 some years ago, when I was still on Oahu. She was Althea then (I can't remember her real last name off th top of my head), but even then, at age 11 or so, there was something about her. The list is subjective, different on a daily basis, and the difference of everyone's list is what makes it cool. You can't see Mariah Carey on it, Terry can't see Madeline Stowe...I love healthy disagreement.

Alright John! You posted your first picture, and a fine job you did. TEP bored me, too, despite CF being in it, and I have a copy to watch forever...but not very likely that I will do so. I do not think women are the best judge of what makes men go for certain women over others just as men can't figure what the lure of CF is for so many of us. It is just one of those things.

I can understand the allure of Colin Firth. It's Kevin Costner that I don't get. He's been in some fine movies, but generally that wasn't because of him. His one great claim to fame on his own merit is "Dances With Wolves," and I have to admit--great flick, KC or no KC. But it's the only project he's initiated that really worked.

Wolf, Here's something for you, just to prove I didn't forget Juliette Binoche. And I have to admit "Ooh la la...". This does indeed belong on a "babes" page:

Hey Marcia ****** John, I will email the command string and what you must put in it...for posting photos. ******* can I have that too?!?!

just teasing mrchips!! i think top 5 is too short a list. and just the opposite of you, john, i CAN see the allure of kevin over firth *grin* didn't care for the english patient either. the film that captured my attention of her and ralph fiennes *drool* was A&E's wuthering heights. my lists are forever changing but the fundamentals of what makes a babe (drool) for me doesn't. my selections have a lot to do with character. you worked with tia? that's so darned cool. i liked her in, yeah, you're gonna flip, but wayne's world!! didn't know she could sing. i must say that you have good taste, john! not the "bubble-headed bleach blondes" or however that line goes *grin*

Want me to email it to you, Stace? Can do, but you will have to come out of telnet to do it. Will get it to you right away. Oh, and John, thanks for the sentiment about your Numero Uno Babe being me...Ray would not harm you...I'd kill him first! He knows what a big fan of yours I am.

In the immortal words of the father of my illegitimate birth, Elvis Presley: "Thank ya...thank ya verramuch..." (Lisa Marie got all the money...I got the waistline!)