~terry
Tue, Dec 14, 1999 (21:39)
seed
I am prompted to start this topic because Lenzi asked.
Is there a future for the Bronte and the Austen conferences here on the
Spring?
~terry
Tue, Dec 14, 1999 (21:40)
#1
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Resp 37 of 37: Lenzi (Lenzi) Mon, Dec 13, 1999 (19:19) 3 lines
Hello...I've been looking for something like this and have only come
across a discussion page which was populated by a massive group of
high schoolers looking for help because they hadn't read Jane Eyre
for school. Now, after my initial glee in finding this conference, I
am wondering how active this site is. It appears there have been no
entries for quite a while. I hope it is merely a temporary lull...
I am very enthusiastic about the Brontes and have read all I could
get my hands on. Until recently
I had concentrated on the works of C.& E. and their bios but I have
ordered Anne's novels and I'm excited about discovering something of
the more forgotten sister. Has anyone read "A Chainless Soul" by
Katherine Frank? I'm in the middle of it. She proposes that Emily
was anorexic. Although there is a considerable amount of conjecture
throughout the book, I felt that she might have something there. I
think if it is a truth, it was not the kind of self mutilation
arising from low self esteem which plag
es some of our young women in this day, but probably sprang from her
passionate need for control, esp. when she was placed in situations
in which she was away from home, away from her usual liberty. Does
anyone have thoughts on this? I'm so glad I found you all!
~MarciaH
Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (00:02)
#2
Until just recently Bront� was going strong through the aid of a diligent Charlotte, as I recall. There will always be lovers of the three ladies who lived such short and sheltered lives on the Yorkshire moors. I will try to enter the conversation if no one else steps forward - there is just so much of me to spread around, and at 116 pounds, that does not spread very far! Hang in there Lenzi...I shall return!
~MarciaH
Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (00:04)
#3
Might this topic be better served in Books or linked to Books Conference?
~terry
Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (01:40)
#4
Sure I'll link this to books.
~terry
Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (01:50)
#5
Well, I got it done on the second try.
~MarciaH
Wed, Dec 15, 1999 (14:18)
#6
Splendid! Now it should attract the Austen and Bront� admirers amongst us! Thanks, Terry!
~terry
Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (14:38)
#7
If we can figure out why they left and how to reattract them.
~MarciaH
Thu, Dec 16, 1999 (15:59)
#8
I'll go rattle some cages in Drool and find out.
~terry
Fri, Dec 17, 1999 (09:42)
#9
Rattle gently.
~wolf
Tue, Dec 21, 1999 (19:13)
#10
*whispering* who is austen again? i mean, the name is familiar but why has left my mind (for some reason, all i can think of is julia austin, a local dj *grin*)
~MarciaH
Tue, Dec 21, 1999 (19:21)
#11
Jane Austen wrote Pride and Prejudice, Sense and Sensibility, Emma, and a whole bunch other good books on the lives and times she lived in. She was Aunt Jane to a large contingent of family but never married. Probably could not find a Darcy, either *grin*
~MarciaH
Tue, Dec 21, 1999 (19:24)
#12
Terry, I shall - I was Droolian and Firthian before I became aware of life as it really is on The Spring. I shall be most gentle and genteel about my activities there, as always...*smiling diplomatically*
~terry
Wed, Dec 22, 1999 (10:37)
#13
With the activity in our http://www.atlantea.com website, I am really
hoping to pump things up here as a stomping ground for poets, writers and
aficianados of fine classic works. I am using the success of authoress M
J Rose as a starting point for the impending marketing I'll be doing for
atlantea.com, she made it on the Amazon charts and got her book accepted
by the big publishers purely byh guerilla marketing on the net,
http://www.mjrose.com is the url I believe. She even sells a marketing
kit. We might take some pointers from her in getting these areas popular.
~wolf
Wed, Dec 22, 1999 (10:42)
#14
never heard of her or atlantea, think i'll check it out....
~wolf
Wed, Dec 22, 1999 (10:44)
#15
the atlantis graphics are great. the wording and everything makes you want to stay and check it out.
~terry
Wed, Dec 22, 1999 (11:00)
#16
Roger Didio is the guy doing it, and it has some potential for a
collaborative Spring - Atlantea project. Roger and I have been on the
phone a lot the last few days. He's in NY.
~wolf
Wed, Dec 22, 1999 (22:45)
#17
i didn't go through all the links there but is it an interactive book? (that's the feel i get anyway). i think it's a great!
~terry
Thu, Dec 23, 1999 (19:41)
#18
It is interactive, and I need to keep talking with Roger. The tentative
plan is at http://www.spring.net/atlantea but I need to scale it down and
rework it.
~sprin5
Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (17:41)
#19
Austen.com is blowing away spring.net in the charts, moving to a solida first place with huge stats.
~sprin5
Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (18:02)
#20
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~MarciaH
Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (18:12)
#21
I have spoken elsewhere. It is nice that they are so busy....but....!
~sprin5
Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (18:15)
#22
No buts. It's great news that austen is doing so well. I hope it continues to grow. Maybe we can support it via pledge drive, if not maybe by banner ads and click throughs. Though I want to be careful about this and consider everyones feelings about keeping it pure like it is now.
~MarciaH
Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (19:31)
#23
You're gonna have to convinve me why I need to support austen.com...
~MarciaH
Sat, Apr 22, 2000 (19:39)
#24
Wish I knew why all of this noise about Austen.com is making me feel like a, unwanted child with a conference which deserves better...*sigh* Guess it is my problem, not yours or Ann's. I do as well as I can...with what I have...
~sprin5
Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (03:34)
#25
You're doing great, and I'll help you move forward with your conference as much as I can, Perhaps you should consider a dedicated domain name and get in Front Page 2000 authoring. It's not a big deal to get started.
~MarciaH
Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (13:26)
#26
I seem to attract people from other conferences (as Drool and Austin, for example) and if I were separate, new readers would not be aware of Geo, would they? Not sure what the advantage of having it as a separate entity.
I will be delighted to see your posts there. It is doing ok, but it could certainly stand a man's voice in there from time to time.
~sprin5
Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (15:46)
#27
What's hot in geo right now?
~MarciaH
Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (17:23)
#28
topic 24 - Beyond Earth (space, stars, planets), topic 27 Geo Archaeology, topic 28 Geo mythology (creation myths from all cultures and religions), topic 4 Gaia,
topic 14 Weather (linked to News), just about all of them, actually. Just created two new ones. Geothermal (geysers, etc) and and Geo Mysteries (for the far out from Loch Ness monster to middle earth and crop circles - the far-out of the Geo conference) At any time, the two gem topics get hot (8 for inorganic and 18 for oceanic - pearls / coral, amber, and ivory)
~MarciaH
Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (17:25)
#29
I am always open to suggestions for new topics. Geo's co-creator was gonna create at least one...but...*sigh*
Terry's Bioregions has gotten heavy traffic from time to time.
~sprin5
Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (19:29)
#30
geothermal is hot by definition. Gems are an interesting topic.
Post some things in the new pointers topic. I've got geo on the main page. As conversations heat up I'll try and post them to the main page. If I miss somehting point it out to me.
Ann is pumping up the pledge drive on austen.com. The spring is really a family of websites. and right now, it looks like austen.com and not spring.net is the leader.
~MarciaH
Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (19:34)
#31
OK...Thanks for that! I will keep you posted, although that cleverly-devised confifty page will give you a good idea of what are the hot discussions (but you would have to web in to see it...)
Brava, Ann! She'll do it! She has surmounted much larger obstacles than this.
~MarciaH
Sun, Apr 23, 2000 (19:38)
#32
I can post big long files too, but that is not what I think this is all about.
I cannot compete with her on this playing field.
~sprin5
Mon, Jun 19, 2000 (13:07)
#33
Paul,
Thanks so much for your input. The recruiting and curriculum team (Gregory,
Adrienne, Ben, Tom and I) will certainly discuss this more, but B&N is very
keen on literature courses.
Gregory's out of town this week, but maybe we can all sit down next week to
discuss your ideas further. Of course, Gregory will determine all of this
since he's the big boss man...
Thanks,
Jan
This is a sample of the emails I am getting in support of setting up a Jane Austen University in conjunction with Barnes and Noble. Anyone who is a part of austen.com please get in touch with me, I implore you for your help on this project which could become a milestone for us if it flies. I am going to need all the help I can get on this from our wonderful community of Jane Austen devotees.
~sprin5
Mon, Jun 19, 2000 (13:09)
#34
See the austen or the nh conference for me details, there's a cross linked topic there for Jane Austen University.
~MarciaH
Mon, Jun 19, 2000 (16:43)
#35
Please check this out. It has such great potential and a very special creative way to use the post-graduate degrees in things Austen we all seem to have earned.
~sprin5
Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (09:10)
#36
Please get in touch with me if you have any ideas for courses we could run online and tie in with the Spring conferences. This may be the mmost important project the Spring has ever undertaken and is vital for our future growth. Please pass the word around about this. We're looking for courses based on topics in all our conferences and courses around the works of Jane Austen and her novels and adaptations. This will become a growing venture within the Spring with funding going to the community as a whole and the participants in the project.
Scale of importance: Extremely high priority, urgent!
~MarciaH
Tue, Jun 20, 2000 (20:06)
#37
Some of the best minds on Spring are in Drool and they do not leave very often and will not see this posting of yours. Please put it on Porch 43 or somewhere in there...if not the linked topic...
~sprin5
Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (08:33)
#38
Will put it there now.
~sprin5
Wed, Jun 21, 2000 (08:37)
#39
I hoping for a re-unification and re-dedication of purpose around building the Spring and Austen Universities. I am hoping folks in this community get involved, I'd like to see how many courses we can do and what the titles would be. I've asked Ann if she would mind doing a mock up sample page.
~linise
Thu, May 31, 2001 (01:47)
#40
I found myself wondering upon coming here if this is a place for Charlotte or Emily Bronte? Although I admire both sisters, I find Wuthering Heights to be beautiful beyond compare because of its rough edges and raw emotion. Jane Eyre, on the other hand, is much more refined and soft. I would enjoy a bit of conversation about the sisters....for certainly their styles are very different.
~mikeg
Thu, May 31, 2001 (17:21)
#41
Welcome Lindi,
I believe there may be a whole site dedicated to the Brontes, which is a spin off from our old Bronte conference here on The Spring.
Terry, the main man around here, would definitely know where to point you.
Mr. Walhus to the front desk please!!!
~terry
Fri, Jun 1, 2001 (07:09)
#42
Why, uh, of course. Let me carry your bags, Lindi, there is indeed a bronte conference, it could use some promotion and reviving. But it's there with a rich history of comments.
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1 40 introductions
2 29 WELCOME, BRONTE FANS!
3 23 FAITHFULNESS OF BIOS?
4 103 JE FILM ADAPTATIONS
5 6 HOW TO CREATE A NEW TOPIC
6 11 The Role of Governess in AG & JE
7 4 PUBLICITY!
8 47 What IS it about those Bronte heroes...?
9 6 What wonderful timing ...
11 43 Pictures, anyone?
12 10 How Did Charlotte Die?
13 20 Favorite Lines
14 14 The Victorian Age
15 39 Branwell Bronte
16 16 Some Cool Books About the Brontes
17 8 The Spring as a community
18 11 The Musical
19 11 Jane Eyre Sequels?
20 0 Rules Of This Board
21 8 TIMOTHY (The Man, The Myth, The Legend) ;o)
22 34 Amy's Trip to Haworth
23 17 Juvenalia: Angria & Gondal
24 11 More Bronte Pictures!
25 54 What's Your Favorite Bronte Novel?
26 9 What happens at the end of Villette? don't read if you havn't read the book
27 5 Character NAMES
28 2 Favorite Characters
29 23 Did Emily "will" her own death?
30 18 Mr. Rochester and Blanche Ingram
31 62 Wuthering Heights video release date
32 68 Princess Diana dies in car crash at age 36
33 5 The role of Nelly Dean
34 6 Websites
35 5 COME OUT, COME OUT, WHEREVER YOU ARE!!!
36 3 The Brontes and the supernatural
37 8 Spring proposal to PBS
38 120 My top ten books of all time (in order)
39 5 Bronte Biography
41 2 Testing to see if I can create an Item
42 7 Jane (Eyre) vs. Jane (Austen) -- why not both?
43 5 The Brontes and the Visual Arts
44 3 The Brontes and the Visual Arts
45 1 Bronte Documentary
46 5 Hello from a newbie + The comments on A&E Jane Eyre that brought me here
47 2 Anne's age on gravestone a mistake? - it just doesn't add up!
53 14 Kate Bush's "WH" & Other Derivatives
54 12 Shirley (Spoilers)
55 5 Jane Eyre: Group Discussion Topics
56 5 Bronte manuscript discovered?
57 0 Meaning of "Enough of Thought, Philosopher"
58 6 Reading Jane Eyre (again) -- anyone want to read along?
59 1 Interesting theory on Heathcliff
60 1 Setting In Wuthering Heights
62 0 do the characters in WH represent the whole mankind?
63 6 I'm baaaccckk...
64 3 Poems
65 0 NEED HELP: regarding Cleopatra, Vashti in Villette
66 0 Emily Bronte ,strange feminist
67 1 WUTHERING HEIGHT
68 4 Jane Eyre,book and movies
69 0 please have a look at my Jane Eyre page!
70 0 questions about Shirley
71 0 Branwell Bronte
~linise
Sun, Jun 3, 2001 (23:04)
#43
Thanks so much! I am indeed new around here and just learning how to sort this all out!
~mikeg
Tue, Jun 5, 2001 (16:12)
#44
Well don't be afraid to ask questions - we're here to help!
~terry
Sun, Dec 9, 2001 (17:01)
#45
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Item 72 entered Sun, Dec 9, 2001 (12:53) by Elena Sheehan (Rochelle1)
Still out there?
A couple of years down the track and I've finally found the Bronte
Conference again. Of course, in the interim I've moved overseas and
am now living in the UK - Amy, are you still out there? Ever check
in? I've adopted Scarborough as a second home, and was up there on
the 150th anniversary of Anne Bronte's death.
In the bronte conference.
~EllenAsh
Sun, Mar 23, 2003 (13:20)
#46
Lucky you! I have yet to go -- on my own! I was wondering when this discussion would get back around to the question posed at the beginning.
Austen believes in an afterlife: she just doesn't deal with it in her novels. Life and Death an Misery, yes.
Anne Bronte did -- read The Tenant of Wildfell Hall, esp. the chapter in which Gilbert and Helen discuss their "reunion in heaven." :)
Emily wrote about the possession of the beloved by the lover, rather than eternity.
Branwell was a deathbed conversion.
Charlotte . . . haven't picked up one of her books in while. Been too busy.
Thanks for getting the ball rolling!
Ellen
Charlotte is rather clear about
~terry
Sun, Mar 30, 2003 (10:57)
#47
about?
~cfadm
Sun, Jul 2, 2006 (09:20)
#48
Bronte is picking up a bit. But it's only one or two posters.
~cfadm
Tue, Jul 17, 2007 (13:00)
#49
Ann Haker and austen.com made the Tuesday, July 17, 2007 Edition of the NY Times.
A
World Without End For Fans of Jane Austen is the article by Pamela
O'Connell.
The article states
"The two largest libraries of Austen fan fiction can be found at
Austen.com (austen .com) and The Republic of Pemberley
(www.pemberley.com), noncommercial sites devoted to all things Jane."
And Ann is quoted at length:
"Several explanations have been offered as to why Austen, who died in
Winchester, England, in 1817 at age 41, has inspired such an explosion of
fan writing. Ann Haker, the founder of Austen.com and a structural
engineer in Minneapolis, points foremost to the dearth of Austen prose.
''Fanfic writers make no claims to be able to reach the literary heights
of Miss Austen,'' she said. ''But we feel the need to expand on the world,
the characters and the stories, that she created. There just is not enough
of Jane Austen's own words to read, so we write our own.''
Congratulations Ann!
~WERoland
Wed, Jul 18, 2007 (19:49)
#50
Yay!
~cfadm
Wed, Jul 25, 2007 (03:16)
#51
it actually turned out to be a story from 2000 that showed up in my google news alerts as a news item. I kind of got caught in a time warp but I enjoyed seeing it anyway since I missed it at the turn of the millenium.
~WERoland
Wed, Aug 1, 2007 (19:41)
#52
:-)
~cfadm
Thu, Aug 30, 2007 (16:48)
#53
That's what I said.