secure chat — Deeper

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:44) #101

Will this say response to 99?

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:45) #102

I typed r 101 at the ok prompt and this is what happens. Interesting new trick.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:49) #103

Amy can you resend it? kaf are you still here?

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:52) #104

I don't understand r. Dave mentioned it can be done at the prompt, but I don't get how it works. Did he ever say if he would be able to incorporate it -- however it works --- into the new web version? I will resend the plan, Terry.

~Kaffeine Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:53) #105

I'm still here...

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:54) #106

Sent

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:54) #107

I'm at the shell in unix. I just put you and myretta into the right group like I told you in my email today. Did you find the ra files (realaudio)?

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:56) #108

Yes, but I have to play around with them more -- all I could hear was static when I tried to play them locally. I wonder if they need to be unencoded or something? I have to get way more up on sound. Got Cool Edit and it records pretty well.

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:56) #109

] you and myretta into the right group __ Kaff, too. Terry. If you please.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:57) #110

Did you send it to: mailto://terry@spring.com ?

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:58) #111

I'll add kaf now.

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:58) #112

Terry did you see my note on Myretta's other request -- that she needs the cfadm PW too?

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:59) #113

Go ahead and give it to her. That's ok.

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (22:59) #114

] I'll add kaf now. ___ Thanks!

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:02) #115

Oh. the PW you gave me for Yapp will give her that privilege. I took at look at the stuff that can be done in a browser -- all pretty global things. All the conference specific stuff must be done in UnIX apparently. But, Terry. Can we settle on the childrenstory stuff since it is getting so late?

~Kaffeine Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:02) #116

Amy, have you made any changes to it? If not, I could try to send it.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:04) #117

I'm still waiting for that email. Can you post it in the topic for that in this conference or resend the email?

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:07) #118

The best process would be to do somehting small at first to show the direction you're doing. I talked to Jonathon today. I'd like to see what you're proposing but it's not in my email yet.

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:08) #119

Kaff, maybe you should try. I can log off and try my other account too. Sorry. My mailer says it has gone twice.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:09) #120

Willem Dafoe is on Jay Leno right now talking about the English Patient.

~Kaffeine Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:09) #121

Terry - I just tried sending it.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:14) #122

They're showing clips now of the English Patient.

~Kaffeine Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:15) #123

Terry - Have you received my e-mail?

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:15) #124

It's here now an dI'm reading it.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:17) #125

It looks good. I hope you can do it in an evolutionary way, I'd like to do a billing at the end of this week and get this phase over.

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:18) #126

I just sent it again too.

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:20) #127

I don't know why not. Kaff is off work. And I have only part of one small writing assignment to do this week. Terry, must we use the illustrations in the dir here? Is teh RA server on this machine?

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:21) #128

I'll go look and find out, just a minute.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:24) #129

barton:/usr/local/realaudio ls -rlt total 2 drwxr-xr-x 6 terry realaudio 512 Apr 1 1996 pnserver -rw-r--r-- 1 root realaudio 134 Nov 3 10:03 permset.txt barton:/usr/local/realaudio But we can easily ftp a copy over to www. And we'll have a 2.6 gb on the new machine that Matt is working on. We run the ra files off of any of those machines. Access would be good because it will have a lot of disk space.

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:24) #130

Look at what?

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:25) #131

It's in pnserver. barton:/usr/local/realaudio/pnserver ls -rlt total 7 drwxr-xr-x 4 terry realaudio 512 Mar 19 1996 rafiles drwxr-xr-x 5 terry realaudio 512 Apr 11 1996 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 terry realaudio 512 Apr 12 1996 doc -rw-r--r-- 1 terry realaudio 1247 Apr 26 1996 readme.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 terry realaudio 931 Nov 10 03:58 server.cfg drwxr-xr-x 2 terry realaudio 512 Nov 10 03:59 logs barton:/usr/local/realaudio/pnserver

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:26) #132

What other questions do we have, Kaff.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:28) #133

There are detailed directions at http://www.realaudio.com about how these ra fileservers work.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:29) #134

The actual data files are at childrenstory.com Have y'all looked at this?

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:30) #135

] Have y'all looked at this? ____ Yes I have peeked around.

~Kaffeine Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:31) #136

Just need to do the RA research...Other than that, I'd say we are ready to get started. I've been reading through fairy tales - and I'd forgotten just how offensive some of them can be! Selecting the stories is going to be interesting.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:31) #137

Eventually, I'd like to see this site teach kids how to read. There's a buy on the WELL who has offered some web based software for this and he's got years of research into to this with Realaudio and childrens stories on the web. At some point, I'd like to see him come in to the process. Did y'all catch the news about Forrests megadeal? About the Stroud site being acquired?

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:31) #138

But! Peeking around time is over. We start in earnest tomorrow. We better let you get to sleep, Terry. You have to be at work tomorrow?

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:32) #139

a "guy" not a "buy" in my above post.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:33) #140

I have two days off, I'll be available. Gosh, you're going to have to fly down to Austin at some point!

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:33) #141

The project has many redeeming aspects. I would like pointers to RA and reading and kids.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:33) #142

And my caf is kicking in.

~Kaffeine Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:34) #143

"Peeking around time is over. We start in earnest tomorrow." Agreed. The stories are the priority, and the RA research can be done on my own time.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:36) #144

At least y'all have the right permissions and allnow and can be masters of your own destiny, and austen's and the Springs. This project is also paying for the austen domain registration, which I will be sending off next week.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:37) #145

Amy have you "privatized" this place by allowing only the necessary folks, in other words, did you edit the ulist?

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:38) #146

Kaf, I loved your Banderas site!

~Kaffeine Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:40) #147

Thanks, Terry! I just got a note from a journalist today who's going to mention in on TNT's Roughcut! Big time, here I come! [G]

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:40) #148

What about doing a site for Texaltel?

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:42) #149

No, I have not done the ulist yet, but I will tomorrow. That way the committees can start talking in here. I think it will work better than email. Many of the members are still off on holiday, so we can't resolve on some things but we can begin talking again. I think I may have talked Joan into moderating the divergences of opinion about the austen.com front page.

~Kaffeine Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:43) #150

Do you have a domain name for Texatel yet? Anything been created for it?

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:43) #151

I am up for that too, Terry, but can we see how the childrenstory thing goes and look at the other one next week? I read the proposal. It looks like that might be a nice little regular income stream for the Spring.

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:45) #152

I am sorry, guys. I am fading. Talk tomorrow?

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:45) #153

They don't want a domain name yet. I need to get just a simple one page prototype up for them. We can just make it up. They don't have any real politicians yet. It would be much easier to knock out quickly for about the same return as childrens story.

~Kaffeine Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:46) #154

"divergences of opinion" Naw, that couldn't happen! [G] Really, though, this is a tough way to chat. A restricted chat room would be nice. I have a script for a nice one, but it only uses frames, leaving those with older browsers in the dust. (Its kind of like the one you found, Terry)

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:46) #155

Sure shall we set up a time?

~Kaffeine Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:47) #156

When does Texatel expect the prototype?

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:48) #157

Very, very soon. They want something now.

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:49) #158

Let me check with Myretta. She is the main one for Yapp and the so called Unix team. Joan still needs some convincing, so we should do the austen.com talk later. Please forgive me. I must away.

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:50) #159

Okay. Soon. Night.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:50) #160

Look at the timetable laid out at http://www.spring.com/~texaltel for an idea. But they want this now. Getting this job has messed me up for carrying through on these jobs. But I'd like to see us evolve as a cohesive unit who can tackle these, and other, jobs to support ourselves and this place.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:51) #161

Schedule for our next chat meeting?

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:52) #162

How about we meet at noon tomorrow CST. It's 11:43 here now. So in 12 hours?

~Amy Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:52) #163

Terry, I will put full steam on childrenstory over the next two days and try to turn my attention to the other site this weekend if possible. Okay. Now it is really god night. Talk tomorrow for sure, Kaff. Probably to you, too Terry. Sweet dreams.

~Kaffeine Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:53) #164

Terry - I think that we could figure out something on the Texatel page. Let me discuss it with Amy. Obviously, tomorrow night won't work to meet - How about we meet here on Wed the 1st at about 12/1pm? We can discuss the progress on the story site and our ideas for the Texatel one.

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:57) #165

OK. If nothing else, let's touch base briefly every day here at noon and 10 pm ok? Can that be our daily schedule? We don't have to do a marathon every time. Just meet quickly and make sure we're on the right track. And sometimes we can get into depth if we have time. Is that ok?

~terry Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:57) #166

Good night, y'all. Thanks!

~Kaffeine Mon, Dec 30, 1996 (23:59) #167

Terry - I'll be here at 12/1pm tomorrow, but I'll be out on the town for the evening one. See you tomorrow!

~terry Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (00:03) #168

See you all at noon. Perhaps Myretta could join us?

~terry Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (00:04) #169

yeah, I'll probably be out on the town tomorrow night, come to think of it.

~terry Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (11:09) #170

I will not be here at noon as scheduled. Matt wants me to pick up the new server in Austin. So I'm leaving in five minutes. I'll be putting access.spring.com online later today, hopefully, and we'll have another webserver machine with a lot of space on it (2.6 gb). I suggest you proceed on both childrenstory *and* the political website. We need something, even if it's a small step, on both fronts so I can keep these clients happy. And we need a plan of action with some deadlines in place. I'll check back in here when I get back from Austin and read your comments. Go ahead and meet without me.

~Kaffeine Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (12:02) #171

That works out well, as a friend just stopped by. I'll just give you a brief rundown on what I'm doing. I've chosen a Grimm's Fairy Tale - Snow White and Rose Red (I wanted to do THE LITTLE PRINCE, but haven't found it yet - maybe next time). I'm going to do it in a multi-page format, which will allow for more illustrations, which IMHO are the heart of children's literature. Terry, you may want to check out ArtToday http://www.arttoday.com They have about 550,000 royalty-free images, including a large childrens book area. If I don't see you guys today, I'll check in here tomorrow at 12/1pm. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

~terry Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (17:25) #172

Happy New Year, see you tomorrow at noon CST. access.spring.com is up and running! I'll get you all set with accounts. How is it coming along Amy?

~terry Wed, Jan 1, 1997 (16:08) #173

I'm around right now. If you ever want me to come up here just give me a "one ringer" on my phone 512.303.4000. I'll know that's a signal to get online.

~Amy Wed, Jan 1, 1997 (21:55) #174

"one ringer" ___ Great idea. Mine's 812-331-0096. If 331-1896 is busy I am probably online. Back later. I will be up for a while.

~Kaffeine Wed, Jan 1, 1997 (22:03) #175

Okay! 810-356-0517 and if 356-0317 is busy I'm online.

~terry Wed, Jan 1, 1997 (22:46) #176

I'm here.

~terry Wed, Jan 1, 1997 (22:48) #177

Amy, you just paged me. What's up?

~Amy Thu, Jan 2, 1997 (01:33) #178

Sorry, Terry. I got called away.

~Kaffeine Thu, Jan 2, 1997 (12:04) #179

Terry - Thanks for the response to my e-mail. Amy - I asked Terry for the location of childrenstory.com. They are in /var/webdocs or /var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com

~terry Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (00:03) #180

Has anyone given any thought to the politics page. This is increasing in importance.

~Amy Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (05:48) #181

I can work on it this weekend, Terry.

~Kaffeine Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (11:39) #182

Terry - I've been giving Texaltel some thought as well, and my first need is images. I assume that the Texas legislature has some sort of official seal or logo, which we would want on the page. Any thoughts?

~terry Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (22:36) #183

Why not do a search for the Texas Legislature. I'll do one now. Texas Legislature Online Next Scheduled Session. Senate: January 14, 1997 - Noon �� House: January 14, 1997 - Noon. The Texas Senate.. http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/ - size 5K - 3 Dec 96 Please, excuse the mess as we bring this site up. Stay tuned for new and exciting features, like a discussion forum about the State Platform and links to.. http://www.jcrp.org/stategov.htm - size 3K - 19 Jun 96 Who's running for the Legislature. Voter Info. Political Parties. Whole Texan Ballot. Central Texas candidates in Texas vying for the Texas Senate and the. http://www.austin360.com/news/election/candleg.htm - size 5K - 8 Dec 96 Women Members of the Texas Legislature. 75th Legislature - 1997-1999. House of Representatives. Norma Chavez, El Paso Debra Danburg, Houston Diana Davila,. http://www.lrl.state.tx.us/lrl/women.htm - size 16K - 25 Nov 96 Texas Legislature Online - The Legislative Process in Texas - Introduction THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS IN TEXAS. BASIC LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. Return of a Bill to the Originating Chamber--Action on Amendments. After a bill has passed... http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/capitol/legproc/retbill.htm - size 2K - 21 Nov 96 You an pull some stuff from here. This is not going to be a public site, it will only be a prototype for Texaltel to look at. Sherry wants something ready by Monday to look at. Read the contract. Let's work together this weekend.. I'll be here solid all weekend.

~Amy Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (22:57) #184

Terry, Kaff found a seal. I will get the sample page together. Will be out from 2 to 8 pm tomorrow but at the computer the rest of the weekend. We will have something to show for Monday.

~terry Fri, Jan 3, 1997 (23:22) #185

Great, I'll be here pretty solid this weekend. Let's bounce off each other a lot and give this conference a workout. I hope the Texas Legislative site is useful.

~Kaffeine Sat, Jan 4, 1997 (12:13) #186

Terry - This has nothing to do with anything, but do you have a usenet feed on spring.com? I ask because my ISP's feed seems to miss about 50% of the posts, and its starting to drive me crazy. I thought that maybe I could try yours, if you have one.

~terry Sat, Jan 4, 1997 (13:14) #187

We can get one pretty easily. Prismnet and bastrop.net both have them.

~Kaffeine Sat, Jan 4, 1997 (16:32) #188

No, don't worry about it - you've got enough going on right now. If you already had it - great, if not - no big deal!

~terry Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (05:21) #189

The old-is-new bug just bit me for the first time in weeks. It's probably because I exited this conference prematurely the last time I visited here.