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~Tineke Fri, Jun 30, 2000 (10:07) #1801
BTW, do belgians have the same mixed feelings about the dutch as we have towards the spaniards? ;-) LOL!! YES!! We have a love-hate relationship with the Dutch. We've got lots of Dutch friends, we get along very well, but when it comes to sport, we don't want the Dutch to win. There was a survey in Belgium, they asked who should win Euro 2000. About 75% replied it didn't matter as long is it's not Holland. Acutally, I think most people wanted Portugal to win. Of the 4 teams that made it to the semis, Portugal is the only team that has both feet on the ground, that didn't announce for the entire world that they would win. The Dutch tend to be rather arrogant at times and we don't like that. And then there's Kluivert.....let's not start about him. He's lucky he's such a good football player or he'd be in prison. Most Dutch realise that so he's not that popular, but I think all the goals he made makes up for it. Isn't it funny how all these neighbouring countries feel about each other?
~LauraMM Fri, Jun 30, 2000 (17:03) #1802
Tine, I'm surprised that you'd actually be yakking it up about Kluivert, when I did during the World Cup, Lise knocked me down to size! Now what about the blonde (UGH, I forgot his name!! plays for Arsenal during reg season???) Had a crush on him. Found out he doesn't fly, strange bird;)
~LauraMM Fri, Jun 30, 2000 (17:05) #1803
oh and Kluivert SHOULD be in prison (rape, vehicular homicide... It's never ending, but he is a BRiLLIANT player)
~Tineke Sat, Jul 1, 2000 (02:52) #1804
You mean Dennis Bergkamp? He's probably not going to be there for the World Cup in Japan, unless he takes the boat.
~LauraMM Sat, Jul 1, 2000 (06:57) #1805
YES!! Dennis Bergkamp!!! (wow, can you say adorable!!!) He's a great striker (when he's not gunshy;)) (they do serve strong drinks on airplanes;) (has he ever thought of therapy for his unbelievable fear of flying? or read Erica Jong's book??? ;)) Tine, I miss you:(
~patas Sat, Jul 1, 2000 (17:28) #1806
I had no idea about Kluivert. I can never look at him in the same way again, of course.
~LauraMM Sat, Jul 1, 2000 (22:20) #1807
Yep, Kluivert was charged with Rape and killed a friend while driving drunk. Nice guy, eh?
~Tineke Mon, Jul 3, 2000 (12:58) #1808
I feel sorry for Italy. I couldn't believe it, those Frenchies scored in the very last seconds!! The Italians were all up, ready to start partying, thinking they'd won and then.... I believe Dennis Bergkamp will stop playing now anyway.
~CherylB Mon, Jul 3, 2000 (15:50) #1809
To all the Americans on this list have a great Independence Day. To everyone else -- have a really good Tuesday. To the Europeans -- enjoy the Euro Cup.
~LauraMM Mon, Jul 3, 2000 (16:30) #1810
Oh NO! Is he retiring? (geez, he's the same age as me!!!) Oh well, there's always Michael Owen;) Or David Beckham (Okay, shoot me now;)) But Owen, (he's a hottie;))
~alyeska Mon, Jul 3, 2000 (19:43) #1811
LOL, A streaker at Wimbleton? What was it David Niven said when they had one at the Academey Awards something about a fool displaying his inadequacies.
~Renata Tue, Jul 4, 2000 (00:14) #1812
To the Europeans -- enjoy the Euro Cup. I tried to but it wasn't too easy. All the teams I hoped to win didn't. And now Italy - is there a more cruel way to win the second place in any championship? (And I know a certain team which would only be too happy to have gained a second. ;-) )
~patas Tue, Jul 4, 2000 (03:12) #1813
(Renate)(And I know a certain team which would only be too happy to have gained a second. ;-) ) Oh well... Portugal has at least the consolation of having lost only to the champion team ;-) Happy 4th of July to the US ladies :-)
~patas Tue, Jul 4, 2000 (14:07) #1814
Marcia, Guardian of the lists, what birthdays should we celebrate in July?
~alyeska Tue, Jul 4, 2000 (19:06) #1815
~patas Thu, Jul 6, 2000 (08:35) #1816
CarrieG, what happened to your web site? I seem to have lost it in cyber-world. The old url sends me to the new one, but the new one is black and void.
~KarenR Thu, Jul 6, 2000 (08:46) #1817
Had no idea Sunshine was doing as well at the boxoffice as this! For the week ending Sunday, July 2, Sunshine was in 18th place. Thus far (122 days in release), it has grossed nearly $2 million and is currently playing on 76 screens with a per screen average of $4,117. For the kind of places Sunshine is playing, it's probably packing them in.
~lafn Thu, Jul 6, 2000 (09:04) #1818
(Karen)Had no idea Sunshine was doing as well at the boxoffice as this! For the week ending Sunday,July 2, Sunshine was in 18th place :-))))*Happy* *Happy* What a season for "The Divine Miz E".
~lafn Thu, Jul 6, 2000 (20:01) #1819
US TV Alert - CNN will be reshowing "Millennium: A Thousand Years of History" on Sunday July 9th at 10pm EDT. Jennifer Ehle narrated part Episode 1, the 11th Century.
~KarenR Sun, Jul 9, 2000 (10:23) #1820
HAPPY BIRTHDAY WINTER!!! or would you rather have this?
~LauraMM Sun, Jul 9, 2000 (11:36) #1821
Happy Birthday, Winter!!!
~lafn Sun, Jul 9, 2000 (11:39) #1822
Im not as good as Karen ...but my best wishes are the same.... Look who joins me.... HAPPY BIRTHDAY, WINTER Love, Mr. Knightly
~CherylB Sun, Jul 9, 2000 (12:58) #1823
Happy Birthday Winter.
~lafn Sun, Jul 9, 2000 (13:43) #1824
Pardon the interruption... US Television Alert: LONGITUDE, the 4 hour production, with Michael Gambon & Jeremy Irons will be shown on A&E tonight 8 PM to 12 midnight Eastern Time.
~alyeska Sun, Jul 9, 2000 (20:16) #1825
Happy birthday Winter.
~KarenR Sun, Jul 9, 2000 (21:11) #1826
Midway through Longitude: In the wet, frilly white shirt contest: Michael Gambon - 0 Colin Firth - 10 (really a 15, but I'll confine myself to a 10pt scale)
~MarciaH Sun, Jul 9, 2000 (21:14) #1827
HAUOLI NA HANAU, JENN! dendrobium orchids and roses
~Jana2 Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (01:49) #1828
Dearest winter, It's still 11:45 p.m. in L.A. so technically it's not too late to wish you a happy day. I hope you had lots of fun today!
~patas Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (02:36) #1829
Late as usual but... here's looking at you, kid!;-) Happy belated birthday, Winter!
~Moon Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (06:01) #1830
WINTER, Happy belated birthday!
~lafn Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (11:08) #1831
(Karen)Midway through "Longitude"...Michael Gambon - 0 Colin Firth - 10 (really a 15, but I'll confine myself to a 10pt scale) I lasted through the four hours of "Longitude"....not a compelling plot. Forgot what a brilliant actor Jeremy Irons really is.Why don't we see him any more?This is the director that did Brideshead??? Michael Gambon....you said it succinctly Karen....."0". Ian Hart was better IMO. Short glimpses of Caroline Bingley& Lady Catherine de Bourgh. With all those white wigs, missed Stephen Fry.
~fitzwd Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (11:17) #1832
(Evelyn) Forgot what a brilliant actor Jeremy Irons really is.Why don't we see him any more? Hmmm, did he disappear before or after doing Lolita? :-)
~KarenR Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (12:20) #1833
(Evelyn) Michael Gambon....you said it succinctly Karen....."0". This was in the "wet shirt" competition only. MG was fine, as was Jeremy Irons, although I question whether his parallel story was even necessary. Hardly recognized that Sam West (in powdered wiggie) played the Reverend Maskelyne. You did see the other Blackadder alum? Tim McInnerny (also of NH fame) as another loonie inventor, like Stephen Fry.
~LauraMM Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (12:23) #1834
I have Chronicles of Narnia on tape. (old BBC version) Sam West plays Prince Caspian. Haven't watched tape yet, but hear that there are a bunch of famous British actors/actresses in it. Will keep log;) Didn't see Longitude (as it really didn't grab me, and don't have cable;))
~patas Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (12:39) #1835
Moon, how nice to see you haven't lost touch! :-)
~EileenG Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (14:32) #1836
Happy belated birthday, Winter! Kudos to all who made it throught Longitude. I made it 10 minutes (began watching well into the program, after Sex and the City was over. Now you know how my taste in TV programming runs).
~Tracy Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (14:47) #1837
My dear Winter, belated birthday best wishes. Am saving up the Crunchie bars for your next visit:-D
~catheyp Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (16:12) #1838
Happy Birthday Winter. Sorry I'm late. I was off line over the weekend. I hope you had a wonderful day.
~KJArt Mon, Jul 10, 2000 (17:34) #1839
Winter: Sorry I missed it, but I'm not allowed online on summer Sundays (Library's closed) :-( . I desperately tried anyway -- "happy birthday, winter!!! -- but I guess you didn't hear me from there. So now that I'm back online, I'll reiterate: HAPPY BIRTHDAY, WINTER!! [ur ... belatedly ... sorry] Hope it was happy. KJ
~SusanMC Tue, Jul 11, 2000 (12:24) #1840
Overall, I liked Longitude, although I also questioned the need for the parallel story. I also questioned why A&E chose to show this in one massive 4-hr. block -- made it hard for even devoted viewers to get through it. After awhile I began amusing myself noticing how many of the actors were former co-stars of JE's -- Sam West, Bill Nighy, Ian Hart, Stephen Fry, Anna Chancellor, Barbara Leigh-Hunt... Happy belated birthday, Winter. And good to hear from you Moon -- hope you're enjoying your trip.
~Arami Tue, Jul 11, 2000 (18:18) #1841
Gi, how's the coast near Lisbon in November? Anything to recommend it? (This is a serious question!) Thanks in anticipation.
~KarenR Tue, Jul 11, 2000 (23:04) #1842
Just FYI, thought this stuff was fun: This is indeed how D.J.Barton defines the Boffin:" In the UK, any member of the scientific community is referred to as a 'boffin' by the tabloid press. According to them, every boffin wears a white coat, glasses, carries a clipboard and talks incomprehensible rubbish. They may be right." While, Sir Robert Watson-Watt's definition of a Boffin is: " A researcher of high scientific competence who has learned that a device of great technical elegance, capable of a remarkable performance in the hands of a picked crew, is not necessarily a good weapon of war. He is the instrument for building into the design provisions which depends on close analysis of the vehicle is to operate, and above all things, the competence of those who are to operate, maintain and repair it." (Quoted by R. Hanbury Brown in his very interesting book "Boffin", Adam Hilger ed.) But although these definitions seem to have been used during the Second World War, one can find a mention of the name Boffin, in Charles Dickens book, "Our mutual friend". Did Dickens invent the word "Boffin"? Nothing is less sure as the Boffins were, following Cliff Baughen, a well known family of confectioners and bakers in Oxford in the end of the last century. Finally, please note that this page should not be mistaken for the Boffin Limited's Homepage! (couldn't get that page http://www.boffin.com to respond right now)
~lafn Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (08:26) #1843
Would "boffin" in reference to a scientist be equivalent to actors being called "luvies" by the tabloids? BTW would appreciate translation of that Brit-speak from anyone.Is it considered a pejorative term by an actor? Or is it just slang?(Would one use it in polite conversation?)
~patas Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (10:08) #1844
(Arami)Gi, how's the coast near Lisbon in November? Anything to recommend it? (This is a serious question!) Thanks in anticipation. This is the Atlantic... Therefore you will probably find it cold, with big waves, and if the weather is good, very beautiful. Good to look at, impossible to swim in (but if you're a surfer, it's another story...) :-)
~judy Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (12:50) #1845
Evelyn I'll try to explain the term 'luvie'[luvvie or luvvy]and its use by the British press.I think the term was derived from actors effusive greeting of each other.I've always associated it with the older generation of actors,a lot are probably now dead,but I don't think they found it derogatory.Today it seems to be used as almost an insult or to poke fun at the acting profession.I must stress this is only my opinion CF,in an old interview,had this to say about actors and acting.This may explain it better. 'The trouble is we become a little precious.We're spoiled because we're permitted to operate outside normal conventions.We hug and kiss-just to say hello..We cherish the notion that one day we'll write or direct and prove we're not simply a luv.I am no exception'.
~Arami Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (13:37) #1846
This is the Atlantic... cold, with big waves, ...very beautiful. Good to look at, impossible to swim in... Thanks, Gi: that sorts out the ocean... Anything to recommend the dry land?:-) What could one do in Estoril for a week around November? Would it be easy to get to Lisbon by car and is parking reasonable there? (I'm asking on behalf of MDH who is scouring the map of Europe in search of ideas for a brief but interesting break...)
~KarenR Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (15:04) #1847
Things being as slow as they are... ;-)
~LauraMM Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (15:14) #1848
LOL, THAT IS THE FUNNIEST thing I have seen in a long time, but whose bday? Evelyn??? Donna? I'm at a loss!!!
~fitzwd Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (17:36) #1849
(Laura) I'm at a loss!!! Me too!
~alyeska Wed, Jul 12, 2000 (22:40) #1850
Have not been here for a few days but Happy birthday Moon.
~KarenR Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (10:00) #1851
Happy Birthday, Heavy Evie!!! ; I've got my cake, where's yours?
~KarenR Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (10:23) #1852
~EileenG Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (10:37) #1853
Poor Annie...he squished her eyes out...oops, forgot, she has no eyes. ROTFLOL, Karen! Now, let's see about this birthday gal. *sigh* When is that Firth fella going to fly over my head and get his butt on Broadway? I've been holdin' up this #*&^% torch for ages, just to light the way. C'mon, Colin, my friend Evelyn is waiting! The crowds are already lining up. Can't you see your name here? My friend Evelyn can. C'mon over, Colin. That's a good lad. As another one of my close friends used to sing, if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere... So get your a** over here, pal, and make my friend Evelyn happy. I'm not gettin' any younger. Oof, my shoulder's killin' me! And didja ever try standin' here wit sandals on in the middle of winter? Da*n, this crown's makin' my head itch...
~KarenR Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (10:51) #1854
(Eileen) As another one of my close friends used to sing, if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere... Didn't realize that you and Frank and/or Liza were like this *holding up two fingers* But should've guessed you NJ-ites would be. LOL!!
~EileenG Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (10:55) #1855
Er, it's not me, sweetie, it's Lady Liberty :-P
~LauraMM Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (10:56) #1856
Happy Happy Happy Birthday, Evelyn!!! What a wonderful day to celebrate too!!!
~EileenG Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (11:06) #1857
Hmm, what does that card say? *squint* Dear Evelyn, I've been told you have a particular fondness for Chardonnay. Please accept this gift in honor of your birthday. It comes with particular appreciation for all you've done as a faithful fan--especially your efforts to rile up the British people to show more support for my films. Fondly, Clin Fith X PS. Thank you for your kind advice about my wardrobe and your tips on crossing Upper Street.
~Moon Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (11:40) #1858
Birthday greetings from London, Evelyn! So glad I stopped by on your day. Had a lovely meeting with Mark at the Tate Modern today. Will be off to Italy tomorrow so you won't be hearing from me for a while. Have a wonderful summer, see you in late August.
~lafn Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (11:48) #1859
Hey ..you guys....gettin' my grannie glasses on....(over the contacts that is...).Thank you for remembering...Karen..you outdid yourself with Annie... Eileen...you are right...what a gift that would be to see ODB's lovely a** on B'way. Kathy Gifford 'n me! I'll sit in the first row with my new CF tee shirt and sip Chardonnay!!! ....especially your efforts to rile up the British people to show more support for my films. Films...nevah!! Only the "telly"....;-)) Heavie Evie off to the Chardonnay!!
~KarenR Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (12:20) #1860
~EileenG Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (12:32) #1861
"Pardon? Marguerite, stop coughing and speak up. I can't hear you over that incessant violin music. Thank you, mon cherie, that's better. Yes, darling, I am aware not many people like Camille, but Evelyn does and it's her birthday. Happy birthday, dearest Evelyn! With love from Armaaaaah
~judy Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (12:33) #1862
Happy Birthday Evelyn
~LauraMM Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (13:27) #1863
LOL, oh these are too funny!
~winter Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (14:47) #1864
my goodness! I'm gone for a few days and look what lovely birthday wishes I find waiting for me here! Thank you so much, to all of you!!!!!!! I will save my 'presents' on disk! and happy Birthday Evelyn!!!! May you have a great day and a great year! We couldn't have a better time here without you!
~Tracy Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (15:04) #1865
Happy Birthday Evelyn. Have a good one!
~lafn Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (15:28) #1866
Thank you dear friends for you refinedfelicitations....Moon,Laura,Judy, Tracy and Dame Winter. ~~~~~~~~ As for the rest of you (and you know who you are)... better watch out...you have birthdays too...and I'm taking notes.... *winkie*, *winkie*
~MarciaH Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (15:38) #1867
HAUOLI NA HANAU, EVELYN DEAR This is the only picture of your favorite multiple-strings-of-Pikake lei that I could find. It is the most lovely scent from little ivory flowers - Jessamine. Hope you have a lovely day!
~lafn Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (15:44) #1868
Mahalo,Marcia dear. Pikake is my fave....I'm getting the sweet scent thousands of miles away.. ......every girl should get "leid" on her birthday.
~fitzwd Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (16:04) #1869
BUCK'S FIZZ ALL AROUND - Let's celebrate these birthday gals!
~lafn Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (16:10) #1870
Just want you to know that I share birthdays with.... Bob Crane 1928 Waterbury, CT Cheech Marin 1946 Los Angeles, CA Fatboy Slim 1963 Bromley, England Harrison Ford 1942 Chicago, IL Patrick Stewart 1940 Mirfield, England Robert Forster 1941 Rochester, NY and.... Professor Sir Ghillean Prance, director of the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew, Pretty classy, uh? Don't know about Fatboy Slim....sounds like a rapstar.
~KarenR Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (16:13) #1871
Any truth to the rumor, Colin, that you've fired your agent and are signing with the Heavie Evie Agency and she has lined up some Oscar-calibre scripts?
~KarenR Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (16:16) #1872
~catheyp Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (16:18) #1873
Happy Birthday Evelyn. I hope you are having (have had) a wonderful day. Cheers!!
~lafn Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (16:19) #1874
(Karen)Any truth to the rumor, Colin, that you've fired your agent and are signing with the Heavie Evie Agency and she has lined up some Oscar-calibre scripts? No, No. That's later.... Tony Scripts. Think Broadway ~~~~~~~~ Thank you Donna, and your friend Henry. Buck's Fizz is right up there with Chardonnay. BTW can't wait to hear from Ann W. who has spoken to both Stephen and Jennifer on Broadway!!
~patas Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (16:21) #1875
Happy Birthday Evelyn! May you have good reasons to fly all over the world ;-) ...good reasons to drink to ;-) ...good reasons to take a dive in the Pond ;-) "Evelyn, this is cold, come along and warm it up!
~lafn Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (17:48) #1876
Thanks Gi... I welcome the chance to share a good bottle of wine (even Tesco's isn't bad)with friends, I fly anywhere at the drop of a hat....even for a CF/JE film!!As for that fella' goin for a swim....anytime:-)
~heide Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (17:58) #1877
Ooh, here's Fatboy himself here to share his destiny (or at least a ciggy) with birthday-mate Evelyn Happy Birthday! Coming from all over the solar system to wish you a happy one -
~lafn Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (20:32) #1878
Heide...thanks for the pin-up of Fatboy....my soul-mate...Hey...notice the white laces on the black trainers!! Think I'll pick Patrick Stewart instead:-)
~KJArt Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (21:48) #1879
Evelyn -- I've been digging around for an appropriate birthday greeting, but I haven't dug up anything yet. Why don't you stick with my assistant digger while I pursue other channels?....KJ
~KJArt Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (22:53) #1880
Certain insects are inquiring... Why, it's Evelyn's Birthday! So the birds do it too... Not to mention amphibians... And even nondescript dots do it... We're all celebrating, so bring on the party! Oh, and by the way... Happy Birthday, Evelyn! (if a bit late) ;-) KJ
~KarenR Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (23:03) #1881
A riot, KJ!! "use fewer candles" LOL! Reminds me of this one:
~Brown32 Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (07:01) #1882
Hey, I'm late! So sorry I missed the party....but I do have card for the birthday girl. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, EVELYN
~SusanMC Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (09:48) #1883
Oh dear, sorry I missed your party, Evelyn -- Happy Belated Birthday, hope you had a great one:-)
~lafn Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (10:49) #1884
Thank you everyone...Karen, KJ, Susan, Murph...did I forget anyone??? Confucius says: To enjoy birthdays....Best Count Backwards ;-)
~lafn Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (10:57) #1885
Request: Murph, apropos of the darling B'day card...I never really disliked Lord Wessex....and for sure the Wessex in your story in the New World. We have several newbies who would appreciate reading it...is it still somewhere on your website? If not could you give it a command performance, puhleeze?
~amw Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (10:59) #1886
I am so sorry to have missed your Birthday party Evelyn, I logged on quickly yesterday but missed this topic, ran out of time. Please accept my apologies and accept my sincere belated Happy Birthday wishes, speak to you on Sunday. Hope you had a lovely day. BTW Jennifer was charming but I had to chase after Stephen! (Have a cute story too)
~Brown32 Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (16:25) #1887
Gee, Evelyn, thanks for the plug. If you are counting backwards, think of me, who will be 68 in a month!!!!! I guarantee you will all love this Lord Wessex! Thanks to the Three Deer at Firth.com, the story is still hanging around. It is in several parts, but begins here: http://www.firth.com/html/newworld.html
~judy Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (16:34) #1888
Murph as a newbie I have to confess to having been around since last xmas in the depths of lurkdom,here on drool but also on your wonderful website.I loved your follow on story -justice has been served to LordWessex at last!
~CherylB Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (11:31) #1889
Evelyn, I missed it -- but you didn't. Hope you had a great birthday. Have a wonderful year.
~amw Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (13:32) #1890
~patas Sun, Jul 16, 2000 (07:33) #1891
Arami, there's lots of things to see and do between Estoril and Lisbon. There are also trains to take you from one to the other. Driving in Portugal is on the right side of the road, and parking in Lisbon is pretty chaotic, although there are parking garages and parking meters. Darlene was here last November and she liked it well enough that she came back in February :-) Of course, she and her S.O. told us what their interests were so we sent them in the right directions, we'd be pleased to do the same for you, and of course have some time together if you like. Why don't you e-mail me?
~KarenR Sun, Jul 16, 2000 (12:05) #1892
From the July 13 Scotsman: EVELYN WAUGH REVISITED by Aidan Smith Remember Brideshead Revisited? The big house, the teddy bears, the divine decadence of it all? Channel 4 rather hopes you do, especially for the elegant satire of Evelyn Waugh, which is why we're all gathered in the summer drizzle outside a hotel in East Lothian, at the foot of the Lammermuir Hills, watching Leslie Phillips stomp around the grounds in a green tweed suit. The 17th-century Johnstounburn House, near Humbie, boasts a lush croquet lawn and some fine yew hedges, but compared to Castle Howard, which stood in for Marchmain in Brideshead, it's just a shed at the bottom of the garden. Television doesn't make them like Brideshead any more - they take too long and cost too much. Sword Of Honour, by today's standards, is still a biggie, with its pounds 6 million-plus budget and a cast of hundreds, but it capture a different Waugh: he had given up hanging out with all those gay young blades and gone to war. And Waugh really is the key. In fact, looking at Phillips today, he could be playing Waugh in his later years, when the great man of letters adopted the role of a cantankerous Tory squire and affected an ear trumpet. The nation's favourite old smoothie, Phillips, is cast in the role of Gervase Crouchback, father of the hero and Waugh's alter ego, Guy Crouchback. It's a small part, and the veteran actor insists he only gets these show-stealing cameos because everyone else of his generation has gone "up there", as he signals skywards with his shooting stick. Phillips is just passing though, but for the Scots writer William Boyd, who has penned the screenplay for this saga of battle and bungle, Sword Of Honour is a labour of love. "I'm a mild Waugh obsessive," he admits. And Boyd, who previously scripted his literary idol's Scoop, has taken time out from writing his latest novel at his retreat in France to see his adaptation come to life. "I taught him at university and I've read every word he's written. Sword Of Honour is the best British novel to come out of the Second World War and it's also Waugh's most autobiographical." A trilogy, the books have been boiled down to two, two-hour chunks of primetime; the producers are TalkBack, and Boyd was brought in by his friend Mel Smith, one of its founders. "It's been my dream job - one of those great, serendipitous challenges." Crouchback is played by Daniel Craig, whose piercing blue eyes left their mark on Our Friends In The North. At first Craig turned down the role, telling Scots director Bill Anderson to go and find someone posh. "Daniel had never played posh before but that's why I wanted him, to cast against type and try to find Crouchback's soul," explains Anderson. Twenty-one years ago, the Brideshead dramatisation was massively popular, despite its lazy pace and woozy scenes of homosexuality, neither of which are usually uppermost among the expectations of couch potatoes when they tune in to ITV. But why do Waugh now? Anderson says Sword Of Honour is much more gritty. "There's no swanning around in gondolas in Venice, swooning over young men with teddy bears," he asserts, in the manner of the oil-rig roustabout he used to be. Producer Gillian McNeill, who completes the Scottish triumvirate which is bringing the epic to the small screen, adds: "It's a love story, and as far as I know they haven't gone out of fashion." In the books, Crouchback's war shadows that of his creator, through the shambolic evacuation of Crete and on to a liaison with Tito's partisans in Yugoslavia. Waugh himself trained as a Marine on Arran, and the island - which he re-named Mugg - features in the dramatisation. But the television version cranks up Crouchback's doomed romance with society beauty Virginia Troy. According to Boyd, Troy is a typical Waugh woman. Following the collapse of his first marriage to Evelyn Gardiner after just four months, Waugh's mood darkened. He wrote the tragicomedy about adultery, A Handful Of Dust, and converted to Catholicism. Boyd believes he "re-invented" Gardiner in all his subsequent fiction. "At the time he wrote Sword Of Honour, Waugh had re-married to Laura Herbert who was having child after child, but in all his later novels there's a certain kind of woman - beautiful, brittle, sophisticated, and yet sort of cruel - and I've always thought there were modelled on Evelyn. They're siren seductresses who lure and torment the heroes." After his own disastrous marriage, the hero of Sword of Honour is a disappointed man. Crouchback needs a sense of purpose, and finds it in the crusade against tyranny. "Waugh often created alter egos which weren't much like him - tall, good-looking, aristocratic - and Crouchback is all of these things," says Boyd. But while they had similar wars, they differed as soldiers. Crouchback is modest and diligent while Waugh was an appalling officer. Boyd explains: "Sir Fitzroy Maclean (the war hero and diplomat, reputed to be the inspiration for James Bond) knew Waugh at the end of the war in Yugoslavia and told me he never knew an officer more loathed and detested by his men. If they had gone into battle there was a serious risk they would have shot him." The big cast includes an American actress, Megan Dodds, as Troy - but not for the obvious reason of hoping she will help sell the production over there. "Virginia is a wild woman with no shame - I decided a New World actress could do that better than an English Rose-type," reveals Anderson. Dodds is enjoying working in the homeland of her great-grandfather for the first time. "I'd never seen my name on anything before, but the other day a Dodds Transport truck passed us - that was cool," she says. Julian Rhind-Tutt, meanwhile, has a name straight out of the pages of Waugh. Hilarious as the layabout aristo in the sitcom, Hippies, he plays a Ministry of Defence information officer. "I'm an early incarnation of the spin doctor," says Rhind-Tutt, who wishes he had been around when Brideshead was being cast. That landmark production was nine years in the making, but revisiting the so-called golden era of television drama is impossible - its like will never be seen again. Sword Of Honour is being shot in a mere 14 weeks and, with the books travelling the length of the war and beyond, across nine different countries, corners are having to be cut. Majorca is doubling as Crete, as well as a few other places, while today East Lothian is standing in for the south coast of England. "We've done the entire Second World War with just two Germans," reveals McNeill. But the production is far from a string-and-sealing wax affair. "For the re-enactment of the retreat from Crete, we had 350 extras in a single shot," adds Anderson. "It was like a weird fuzzy logic dream because none of them spoke English, but it worked." So who will watch yet another drama about a war which has now slipped into the previous century? "It's all about how to be a man, and that couldn't be more contemporary," says Anderson. And he also points up resonances with the recent internecine conflict in what used to be Yugoslavia. "The partisans were Communists, but Britain helped them because they were good at suppressing the Nazis. It was a horrible marriage of convenience ... and Crete was a military debacle that isn't much talked about. The echoes in the recent conflict, with the United Nations going in to stop the fighting and then being held to ransom, are uncanny." Boyd himself once wrote: "In war is to be found the randomness, chaos and real character of the world." In Sword Of Honour, Waugh tried to pin down the randomness, chaos and real character of war, and succeeded brilliantly. Time will tell if, all those long years later, television finally does his greatest work justice. 'Sword Of Honour' will be screened on Channel 4 early next year.
~Brown32 Sun, Jul 16, 2000 (19:57) #1893
Fun quiz in the Guardian on Brit actors being the bad guys in US films. Picture of Mr. Rickman. http://www.filmunlimited.co.uk/quiz/questions/0,5952,343447,00.html And this fun page - mood matchers. We could adapt this to Colin. I think I might for my web page. Anyone up for some good "mood" ideas? http://www.filmunlimited.co.uk/moodmatcher/
~Brown32 Sun, Jul 16, 2000 (20:00) #1894
Crouchback is played by Daniel Craig, whose piercing blue eyes left their mark on Our Friends In The North. At first Craig turned down the role, telling Scots director Bill Anderson to go and find someone posh. "Daniel had never played posh before but that's why I wanted him, to cast against type and try to find Crouchback's soul," explains Anderson. ********** Yikes, Karen, another one of my fav actors. Great news.
~alyeska Sun, Jul 16, 2000 (23:37) #1895
Sorry I miss your birthday Evelyn. Haven't been around for a few days. I hope you had a rip roaring good one.
~lafn Mon, Jul 17, 2000 (10:53) #1896
Thank you Lucie ,Cheryl and Ann for the birthday greetings....... am still recovering....all that Chardonnay, you know;-))
~SadieR Mon, Jul 17, 2000 (12:41) #1897
Have discovered Evelyn's whereabouts! Happy belated birthday! And to Winter as well! Camping was, well, campy.
~patas Mon, Jul 17, 2000 (14:44) #1898
(SadieR)Camping was, well, campy. I trust you didn't come across any Blair witches though ;-)
~Tracy Mon, Jul 17, 2000 (16:02) #1899
(SadieR)Camping was, well, campy. Was it the full sleeping bag under the stars, impossible-to-erect tent and insects in your food bit? You haven't lived until you've found half an earwig in your beans!
~CherylB Mon, Jul 17, 2000 (16:12) #1900
Maybe it was spending all night in a canoe on the lake while the bears were ripping your tent to shreds and eating all of your food? I hope not.
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