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Bridget Jones's Diary - nowhere near the edge of reason (Part 4)

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~emmabean Thu, Aug 8, 2002 (06:04) #1001
Just had to share that I was walking to my recruitment agency in London today when I suddenly realized I was crossing the road at the Royal Exchange shops where the last scene of BJD was filmed! I can share this almost nowhere else, who else appreciates this. This, after yesterday I purposely took a walk to Kensington Park Rd. to see 192 and Cafe Rouge. On top of that, the agency is also just around the corner from Gracechurch Street - yes, I can admit to being in Cheapside very happily. I really should start my own tour company for Drool folks now that I am here...too cool.
~MarkG Thu, Aug 8, 2002 (06:12) #1002
Hey, Emma, don't forget to go South over London Bridge one time and take the first right to see Bridget's flat, the fight scene, and the market she walks through as a bunny.
~lindak Thu, Aug 8, 2002 (12:18) #1003
What a lucky girl you are Emma. Enjoy, and please keep us up to date.
~emmabean Fri, Aug 9, 2002 (11:49) #1004
MarkG, thanks for the tip (again!) -- do you know the street names so I don't get lost?! I've only been here since Monday, I still can't believe how much stuff I have seen either on purpose or accidentally. Keeping me occupied until real life (job, flat, etc.) starts.
~lafn Mon, Aug 12, 2002 (15:05) #1005
(Mark) Hey, Emma, don't forget to go South over London Bridge one time and take the first right to see Bridget's flat, the fight scene, and the market she walks through as a bunny. (Emma) MarkG, thanks for the tip (again!) -- do you know the street names so I don't get lost?! Mark might be away, but these are the directions he gave me when I was there in March. Don't miss it ..it's fun.The pub is open on weekdays only. We were told that Bridget and her pals were filmed inside. Bridget's flat and the fight scene: Cathedral Street (beside Southwark Cathedral) - her flat is the private door of a pub, opposite the 'Greek restaurant', which is now an art gallery. The market is right under the bridge.
~KarenR Mon, Aug 19, 2002 (08:51) #1006
From Ananova: Bridget Jones actress willing to feature in sequel Shirley Henderson says she would be willing to appear in the planned sequel to Bridget Jones's Diary. Henderson played Bridget's friend Jude in the film, although the part in the film was greatly reduced from the book. Work on the script to the sequel is currently underway. "I've not heard anything about the Bridget Jones sequel," Henderson told Ananova. "But I'd be willing to do it if they asked me. It depends if they're doing it as the book. "I think I preferred The Edge Of Reason, it depends on what they want to show."
~LauraMM Mon, Aug 19, 2002 (13:37) #1007
Wait, I thought she played Shazzer??????
~lindak Mon, Aug 19, 2002 (20:41) #1008
I prefer TEoR too-provided they stick to the book. Hopefully, the "it's all gone very quiet" is suddenly getting a little noisey!
~lafn Mon, Aug 19, 2002 (20:51) #1009
(Linda) I prefer TEoR too-provided they stick to the book. Funny, you should say that...actually that's my new mantra.... "I won't like it , if they don't stick to the book";-)
~gomezdo Mon, Aug 19, 2002 (22:47) #1010
Actually, I have to admit that I wouldn't be very unhappy if they diverted from the book before going to Thailand. Reaching that part of the book was like hitting a literary brick wall for me. Seemed like she stuck it in from another book just to make it a bit longer. It fit the bill as far as the requisite "Mark saves Bridget and her honor/Darcy saves Elizabeth's honor" part, but I found it out of place. Maybe it's where it was set and the dilemma. Maybe if it had been somewhere else and with a different problem I would've liked it better. It got back on track for me at the end. BTW Karen, I'm surprised not to see TEoR book in the Boutique.
~KarenR Mon, Aug 19, 2002 (23:36) #1011
Gah! Will rectify that glaring omission. Must've been the Chardonnay. ;-)
~Rika Tue, Aug 20, 2002 (00:02) #1012
I'm with you about Thailand, Dorine. I could do without that. But we will needless to say demand fidelity to the book when it comes to scenes involving MD in a towel (or less than a towel). Thing is, if HG's going to be in the sequel then they can't stick to the book (unless his involvement is very limited, really just a cameo).
~gomezdo Tue, Aug 20, 2002 (00:27) #1013
(Rika) But we will needless to say demand fidelity to the book when it comes to scenes involving MD in a towel (or less than a towel). It does indeed go without saying, although we keep saying it again and again. Hey HF, et al.....are you listening?
~gomezdo Tue, Aug 20, 2002 (00:28) #1014
Gah! Think I forgot to close.
~KarenR Tue, Aug 20, 2002 (13:41) #1015
(Dorine) I'm surprised not to see TEoR book in the Boutique. You scared me there. But I've checked and it is listed in the Fielding Collection...first! However, I am going to add the DIY amazon.co.uk instructions today, plus a link to The DWG's amazon shop, where there are tons more book titles, especially of all those Austen sequels. http://TheDWG.com/amazon.htm Feel free to use the links on that page too, as it all benefits Spring.
~gomezdo Tue, Aug 20, 2002 (15:14) #1016
Sorry Karen! Overlooked that area I guess. When I saw BJD in the top section without TEoR, just figured it wasn't there.
~KarenR Tue, Aug 20, 2002 (15:37) #1017
We are counting out chickens before they are hatched, huh? Putting TEOR in the Firth Collection before it actually is??? ;-)
~lindak Tue, Aug 20, 2002 (22:49) #1018
(Karen)We are counting out chickens before they are hatched, huh? Putting TEOR in the Firth Collection before it actually is??? ;-) Never underestimate the power of positive thinking, and uh, the cry of those of us desperate for the towel, and let us not forget the kitchen scene!!!!
~SBRobinson Wed, Aug 21, 2002 (11:28) #1019
Quick question: which book has the scene where Bridget, Shaz and Jude make a list comparing the pros and cons of Mark Darcy vs. Mr. Darcy - anyone remember??? (i've lent out my books, and cant look it up for myself...)
~Rika Wed, Aug 21, 2002 (14:23) #1020
Isn't that in the first book, probably some time after Mark asks Bridget out to dinner?
~lindak Wed, Aug 21, 2002 (22:13) #1021
(Rika)Isn't that in the first book, probably some time after Mark asks Bridget out to dinner? You are probably correct, but I thought it was TEoR. Gives me a strong excuse to go back and re-read these two. Sorry SB, that doesn't answer your question.
~KarenR Wed, Aug 21, 2002 (23:01) #1022
Unless there's another scene, I paraphrased this bit in GSD. However, the original can be found in Book 1, October 15: "Jude just called and we spent twenty minutes growling, 'Fawaw, that Mr Darcy.' I love the way he talks, sort of as if he can't be bothered. Ding-dong! Then we had a long discussion about the comparative merits of Mr Darcy and Mark Darcy, both agreeing that Mr Darcy was more attractive because he was ruder but that being imaginary was a disadvantage that could not be overlooked." I think the last part is a posted 'Note' on the early BJD webpages.
~lafn Thu, Aug 22, 2002 (19:52) #1023
From SHOW BIZ bUZZ: "RENEE'S NEW RANCH: Renee Zellweger is moving away from the humble days she spent as a waitress in Texas. The actress has ponied up $6.8 million for a 6,400 square foot Bel-air spread. The gated manse was listed at $8.9 million in March 2001 and was on and off the market over the months. Zellweger's new seven-bedroom home, designed by architect Paul williams , has a library, maid's quarters, workout room, pool and gardens, according to the "Los Angeles Times". That's quite an upgrade from the former $1.8 million Hollywood Hills pad" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bet she doesn't have a problem getting a mortgage;-)
~SBRobinson Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (11:19) #1024
Then we had a long discussion about the comparative merits of Mr Darcy and Mark Darcy, both agreeing that Mr Darcy was more attractive because he was ruder but that being imaginary was a disadvantage that could not be overlooked. Thanks Karen! that's just the line i was looking for! :-D
~FanPam Tue, Sep 3, 2002 (09:03) #1025
I agree with you Dorine and Rika. Wasn't fond of the Thailand episode. Mark must have his towel or less scenes. Daniel got his bed scenes, now it's Mark's turn. I think the plot will be rewritten to accommodate HG. I can't imagine them giving him a cameo as the three leads were such a successful team. Perhaps Daniel will be the nemesis Mark has to save her from, in lieu of Thailand. Or could his character actually change? I don't know, just a thought. Hopefully we can trust the actors as they all said they wouldn't do it unless the script was good and better than the first. So here's hoping. I hear RZ is getting accolades for Chicago roll, and that film is v.g. Something to look forward to, perhaps.
~airstream Wed, Sep 4, 2002 (18:21) #1026
if RZ is concerned about the weight issue, they might include the Thailand bit-- so she wouldn't have to gain so much (not that she looked bad).
~MarkG Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (04:45) #1027
From today's Letters to the Daily Telegraph: SIR - Bloody cheek! Re: MP David Willetts's claim that "Bridget Jones is a Tory at heart because essentially she wants to settle down" - was most startled to discover that the criteria for being a Tory is essentially a romantic, dating matter - had always believed in the past it was something to do with politics, economics, methods of running country etc. Mr Willetts has got the whole thing completely back to front - since one of the things which most threatened to prevent Bridget settling down with or even going out with Mark Darcy was the horrifying discovery that he voted Tory. Bridget Jones: the Edge of Reason (January 31 entry): "Realise when start a relationship with a new person there will be differences between you ... but had never, ever in a million years suspected I might have been sleeping with a man who voted Tory. Suddenly felt I didn't know Mark Darcy at all, and for all I knew, all the weeks we had been going out he had been secretly collecting limited edition pottery miniature pottery animals wearing bonnets, from the back pages of Sunday supplements, or slipping off to rugby matches on a bus and mooning at other motorists out of the back window." "So I vote Tory, what's wrong with that? What's the problem?" said Mark Darcy. "If I voted Tory I'd be a social outcast," I said. "It would be like turning up at Caf� Rouge on a horse with a pack of beagles in tow, or having dinner parties on shiny tables with side plates." "The point is you are supposed to vote for the principle of the thing, not the itsy bitsy detail about this per cent and that per cent. And it is perfectly obvious that Labour stands for the principle of sharing, kindness, gays, single mothers and Nelson Mandela, as opposed to braying bassy men having affairs with everyone shag-shag-shag left, right and centre and going to the Ritz in Paris then telling all the presenters off on the Today programme." Bridget is not just on a desperate quest to settle down. Like all self-respecting modern women she is struggling to balance her post-feminist independence and economic power with the human, not just female, need to love and be loved. She is torn between rosy images of Brad Pitt loading the dishwasher naked and oiled and feeding her ice-cream with a little spoon and the reality of living with a real man who still wants his supper cooked even though she's working just as hard as he is, and thinks washing up means twiddling a fork under the tap and then being heaped with gratitude and awe-struck praise. Besides - if everyone who had a partner or husband voted Tory they's have won the last election, wouldn't they? Probably. Helen Fielding
~lafn Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (08:00) #1028
LOL. Thanks Mark.I thought that one made one of the columns. (HF)"She is torn between rosy images of Brad Pitt loading the dishwasher naked and oiled and feeding her ice-cream with a little spoon ..." ROTF. I'm surprised she didn't say CF;-)
~KarenR Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (08:02) #1029
LOL! Good to see Helen is still in there, actively defending her creation's character and with the same humor, although I know she could've come up with a better example for this: rosy images of Brad Pitt loading the dishwasher naked and oiled and feeding her ice-cream with a little spoon ;-) Thanks Mark
~KarenR Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (08:21) #1030
Now there should be a letter in response to HF's, quoting chapter and verse of both previous books, about whom Bridget would fantasize.
~FanPam Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (09:10) #1031
Thanks Mark and Helen. Good to know Bridget is still in peoples' thoughts. Might help getting her back on the screen. Would be nice.
~KarenR Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (11:10) #1032
Am thinking letter to the editor should question whether HF's letter was a fake and cite both books as proof as Bridget never mentions Brad Pitt fantasies even once. ;-)
~maryw Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (11:33) #1033
"I'm thinking towels. I'm thinking dancing nekkid. I'm thinking nessie." Gasp - what fantasies! Who can we be thinking of, Helen?
~Rika Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (11:35) #1034
HF must have been influenced by living in Hollywood. Doesn't she realize that "Phwaw.... that Brad Pitt" just doesn't work? Thanks for the article, Mark!
~MarianneC Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (12:40) #1035
http://www.femail.co.uk/pages/standard/article.html?in_article_id=139113&in_page_id=119 Cannot believe it! George Clooney wants to date me! Bridget Jones is set to be the envy of sad singletons everywhere - by scoring a date with Hollywood hunk George Clooney in her next film. Clooney is being lined up for a part opposite Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason, the planned sequel to Bridget Jones's Diary. It will be a case of art imitating life because Clooney and Zellweger once enjoyed a few dates of their own. The plans were revealed today by writer Andrew Davies, who is working on the script for the sequel. In Helen Fielding's book, Bridget is sent to interview actor Colin Firth - a man she has lusted after ever since his appearance in Pride and Prejudice. But Firth played Bridget's boyfriend Mark Darcy in the first film and is set to reprise his role in the sequel - leaving scriptwriters with a problem. The solution was to find another heart-throb actor to play the object of Bridget's desire and Clooney is the ideal choice. Davies said: "We're hoping to substitute George Clooney for Colin Firth because we want Colin to play Darcy again. "I've written four drafts and the latest version is with Renee Zellweger. We are just waiting for her reaction. "Reactions have been very good all the way along and we want to start filming it this year." Typically for Bridget, her meeting with Firth in the book goes disastrously wrong and hopes of a romance are cruelly dashed. Zellweger, 33, is said to have briefly dated Clooney last year after splitting from fellow Hollywood star Jim Carrey. The actress put on a stone-and-a-half playing the Chardonnay-swigging Bridget in the first film, which was a hit on both sides of the Atlantic. She soon slimmed back down to a tiny size six, prompting concern about her health. Luckily for Zellweger, Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason will not require her to pile on so much weight a second time. Davies explained: "This time the script doesn't require her to bulk up all that much. The plot involves her doing time in a Thai jail which means she actually has to lose weight." Davies, whose credits include adaptations of Pride and Prejudice, plus the forthcoming dramas Dr Zhivago and Daniel Deronda, is co-writing the screenplay with Richard Curtis.
~KarenR Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (12:47) #1036
Let's keep the BJD discussion here. I was just going through the BJD page and saw an article from Empire in Feb 2001, in which George Clooney was also discussed. Cute comment from Richard Curtis: He is excited about the finished product and said "We are all very pleased with the final cut, it's everything we hoped it would turn out to be." But there's bad news for fans of George Clooney, who have heard the rumours that he was to appear in a dream sequence. Curtis explained "I'm sorry for everyone hoping to catch a glimpse of George Clooney in a dreamy haze but that was never going to happen. He is a hunk, but we have our very own hunks in the film. Both Colin and Hugh are ample match." So how did the rumour get started? "I don't know where that story came from but we never intended to put Ren�e through that disappointment. George was never approached�that whole dream thing was just a dream, dreamt up by some outsider." However, there might be hope for the future, as Curtis added "But then maybe it will happen in Bridget Jones 2! No, we have no intention of doing a follow up�at least not yet!"
~SBRobinson Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (13:09) #1037
AD "I've written four drafts and the latest version is with Renee Zellweger. We are just waiting for her reaction...Reactions have been very good all the way along and we want to start filming it this year." V. Good news! Was worried it was just being put off, but if they're actively working on it, then am hopeful for something to happen in the near future!! *happy dance*
~mari Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (13:15) #1038
Yay! Colin hinted numerous times about Clooney subbing for him as BJ's interviewee. Oh man, Colin Firth and George Clooney up on the big screen, for the price of one admission! Bring me the smelling salts!
~Rika Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (13:19) #1039
What is it with all these substitute objects of lust for Bridget today? Brad Pitt, George Clooney - who next? "Reactions have been very good all the way along and we want to start filming it this year." . This year, as in 2002? That's not consistent with what we've been hearing.
~Moon Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (15:09) #1040
Davies said: "We're hoping to substitute George Clooney for Colin Firth because we want Colin to play Darcy again. I've written four drafts and the latest version is with Renee Zellweger. We are just waiting for her reaction. (Mari),Colin hinted numerous times about Clooney subbing for him as BJ's interviewee. That's art imitating life. ;-) "This time the script doesn't require her to bulk up all that much. The plot involves her doing time in a Thai jail which means she actually has to lose weight." So will Colin be using that private jet I gave him for his birthday to go on location? :-D Thanks for posting, Mark. BTW, I never did ask if you bragged to your co-workers about your appearance in the BJD movie?
~MarkG Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (15:34) #1041
I mentioned it eventually, Moon, but I don't know if it's really braggable - though my DW likes to tell people! Some friends say "was that all?" when they see it, but others say they were looking in the background and didn't realise I'd be such a camera-hog!
~amw Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (16:03) #1042
Thanks Marianne for the article on EOR & GC, however,this does seem contrary to what Hola Lola wrote today on the CF topic that EOR had been put back, which presumably means filming will be delayed still further. Would love to hear Lola's comments re this article.
~Moon Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (16:04) #1043
others say they were looking in the background and didn't realise I'd be such a camera-hog! You were absolutely perfect! I hope you get to reprieve your role. We count on it. :-D
~dalec Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (19:11) #1044
Andrew Davies did not mention Hugh, could that mean he's out? (MarkG) Some friends say "was that all?" when they see it, but others say they were looking in the background and didn't realise I'd be such a camera-hog! were you in BJD as an extra? how cool, which scenes were you in?
~FanPam Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (19:44) #1045
Am thinking letter to the editor should question whether HF's letter was a fake and cite both books as proof as Bridget never mentions Brad Pitt fantasies even once. ;-) EXCELLENT OBSERVATION BOSS Mark, how exciting. Please tell us where you are so we can see you too. Thanks. Marianne thank you for article. It's good news. Cloony would be perfect, but I will kind of miss the CF interview as it is one of the funniest things I have ever read and can so clearly see RZ and CF doing it so extremely well. Also loving Fitz Darcy as I do, I can understand her passion with her interview. Was really looking forward to that. Can't see where interaction with GC would be as clever or as funny as the interview about Darcy. But only my opinion. But after further thought BJD the movie does not really indicate that she has a passion about P&P or Darcy, as in the books, so it might work. It was just so funny. I really enjoyed it and I can just visualize CF's facial reactions to her interview. Very funny stuff. Whatever, I know it will be a great movie and am now lighting candles. Come on Renee give it the green light, please!!! In one of your Oscar night interviews you said you loved Bridget, I do too.
~KarenR Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (20:31) #1046
We made sure everyone at the Ziegfield Theater at the NY premiere knew about Mark. You should've seen the three of us gasping and pointing to the screen as Mark strode past. Betcha Harvey took notice. ;-)
~lafn Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (20:45) #1047
(Karen)You should've seen the three of us gasping and pointing to the screen as Mark strode past. In unison: "THERE'S MARK!!"
~lindak Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (22:02) #1048
(Mari)Yay! Colin hinted numerous times about Clooney subbing for him as BJ's interviewee I read that too, he has said it several times. I am sorry though, that the interview will be different. It was truly hilarious in the book. What did I say last night about those candles. It works, it really works-eh, I hope.
~LizJP Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (22:52) #1049
Here's another article about Helen Fielding's response to the Tory hijacking of her Bridget Jones character. It was on the Boston.com (Boston Globe) web site: Author protests as Conservatives enlist 'Bridget Jones' for pro-marriage campaign By Associated Press, 9/19/2002 13:42 LONDON (AP) Author Helen Fielding has accused the opposition Conservative Party of hijacking her popular Bridget Jones character in its bid to promote marriage and the family. Fielding's best-selling book, ''Bridget Jones's Diary,'' is about the romantic disasters of a 30-something single woman. In a letter published Thursday in The Daily Telegraph, Fielding took exception to a senior Conservative's remark that Bridget Jones was a Tory at heart because she hopes to marry and settle down. David Willetts, the party's spokesman on work and pensions, invoked the fictional character in a speech Wednesday in which he extolled the value of marriage and family life. While many young people are now marrying later, he said, increasing numbers of people follow Bridget's hit-and-miss romantic career before finding the right partner. ''If anything, we have higher hopes of marriage than ever before. We are taking longer to find the right partner, but still searching for that person with whom we want to spend the rest of our lives just ask Bridget Jones,'' said Willetts. Fielding protested that Willetts ''has got the whole thing completely back to front'' because one of the biggest threats to Bridget Jones' relationship with Mark Darcy ''was the horrifying discovery that he voted Tory.'' At the end of the novel, Bridget gets her man. Bridget, she said, ''is not just on a desperate quest to settle down. Like all self-respecting modern women she is struggling to balance her post-feminist independence and economic power with the human, not just female, need to love and be loved.'' Willetts' speech to a Conservative think-tank follows a fierce debate within the party over the extent to which the Tories should embrace alternative lifestyles in an attempt to make themselves more appealing. Willetts said the party should promote marriage as the ideal environment for children, while accepting that many young people prefer to cohabit in long-term relationships. ''Bridget Jones's Diary'' was turned into a hit movie in 2001 starring Renee Zellweger and Hugh Grant. Forgot someone there, didn't they? Liz
~Rika Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (22:57) #1050
This reminds me of all the foolishness with Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown.
~KarenR Thu, Sep 19, 2002 (23:27) #1051
*hint hint* Mark is the one in a Burberry suit. Can't miss him. (Rika) This reminds me of all the foolishness with Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown. It sure does. While many may be disappointed that Colin won't be playing himself and doing the interview, I can understand his wanting to keep all that out. Clooney is a good substitute in my opinion. He has such a good sense of humor and quick wit that Bridget's interview is bound to be hysterical. OK, no repeated mentions of a wet shirt and being sprayed by water, but at least it will mean Colin will reprise his role. A small price IMO. But he better not throw out the towel!!!
~MarkG Fri, Sep 20, 2002 (03:16) #1052
For anyone who hasn't read the old topics: When Renee gets in the car, and Huge "growls" at her - then that's li'l old me walking down the street. (I think the extras director got excited about the fact I had a suit on: he told me to assume that I was walking home from work - and didn't know how accurate that was)
~lafn Fri, Sep 20, 2002 (09:37) #1053
Aw...don't be so modest. He couldn't pass up a handsome man in a Burberry suit.You brought us day by day reports of BJD.You are a real trouper, Mark.:-)))
~SBRobinson Fri, Sep 20, 2002 (11:30) #1054
(Evelyn) You brought us day by day reports of BJD.You are a real trouper, Mark.:-))) Indeed -you aways had fun facts to share Mark. I always got excited when i saw you had posted! :-)
~KarenR Fri, Sep 20, 2002 (13:43) #1055
Would it be OK to post pics of The Burberry Man here? ;-)
~lindak Fri, Sep 20, 2002 (18:39) #1056
(Karen)But he better not throw out the towel!!! Well, I can live with the towel being thrown out:-)But I fear that will not be the case. Nor do I think the kitchen scene will be filmed as written.*sigh*. However, I will defer(?)to ODB's choices, just make the film, already.
~Tress Fri, Sep 20, 2002 (18:50) #1057
(lindak) Nor do I think the kitchen scene will be filmed as written.*sigh*. Linda, I agree that we will be lucky to see that scene filmed as written in the movie...wasn't Mark Darcy nekkid? I don't have the books in front of me, but I think that is what I remember (if that's not the case, then I just pictured him that way...). We can always hope.
~lindak Fri, Sep 20, 2002 (19:47) #1058
(Tress)wasn't Mark Darcy nekkid? Yup. Nekkid.
~Rika Fri, Sep 20, 2002 (20:44) #1059
Nekkid just isn't gonna happen - I'd put a lot of money on those days being in the past.... but I'm going to hold out hope for a towel scene. That actually would be a good trade for the interview scene.
~Tress Fri, Sep 20, 2002 (20:59) #1060
I have no objection to a towel scene....I would take towel over interview anyday (unless the interview was done nekkid).
~Rika Fri, Sep 20, 2002 (22:05) #1061
(Tress)unless the interview was done nekkid Now this sounds like the best of all possible solutions!
~FanPam Sat, Sep 21, 2002 (00:12) #1062
Thanks for article Liz. Thanks for info Mark. Will watch you this weekend. Candles are lit and glowing brightly.
~Lora Sat, Sep 21, 2002 (12:23) #1063
(Rika)That actually would be a good trade for the interview scene. Yes, I'd call it a "Fair Trade" since he supports that! Maybe he can even hold a cup of coffee when he's wearing the towel with "Fair Trade" printed on the mug. Hmmm, maybe that would get him to do the towel scene in the first place! Hey, anyone from TEoR production reading this?
~lindak Sat, Sep 21, 2002 (13:31) #1064
(Lora)Maybe he can even hold a cup of coffee when he's wearing the towel with "Fair Trade" Maybe he'll even do the kitchen scene, nekkid-if they use Fair Trade coffee on the counter for product placement. C'mon, how about it, Colin? Lets play fair.
~Tress Sat, Sep 21, 2002 (15:14) #1065
(lindak) Maybe he'll even do the kitchen scene, nekkid-if they use Fair Trade coffee on the counter for product placement. They could do some very clever 'product placement' and he could hold the cup in front of him during the kitchen scene....we would all remember that and never buy anything except Fair Trade coffee! It would be etched into our subconcious forever....
~Rika Sat, Sep 21, 2002 (21:49) #1066
(Tress) They could do some very clever 'product placement' and he could hold the cup in front of him during the kitchen scene Rather like that photo Lisa found a while back of the guy "wearing" the teacup. Works for me.
~BarbS Sun, Sep 22, 2002 (01:21) #1067
Ah, the blush of first love (lust?). A BJD night. Blue soup. Just the way you are. Reindeer jumpers. Yes they f***ing do. It's all MarkG's fault, had to find him but of course had to watch the whole thing. Gonna go light a candle for TEoR.
~Lizzajaneway Sun, Sep 22, 2002 (05:36) #1068
Good to relive those Ziegfeld moments! I believe we even mentioned Mark to the waiting British press outside in a casual "Give me a free pass, damn you, I know someone in this film" kind of a way;-) And then Barb you will just have to watch it with friends in order just to point Mark out, it can be a never ending scenario.....:-)
~treseg Mon, Sep 23, 2002 (09:54) #1069
i'm thinking i need the dvd as a b-day present to myself, anyway i'll take clooney if that is how the film is going to get made, but the best part of the interview for me is that cf is so stand offish about being a sex symbol in real life and could just hear and see his reactions in my mind when i read it, i think george knows and accepts (and probably like) being a sex symbol, it just won't be the same but i always have the book to read over and over (at least after i get it back from my friend)
~Ebeth Mon, Sep 23, 2002 (20:08) #1070
Why not have CF grow his hair out a la FP and shoot that part first? I do hate it that the wet shirt schtick will have to go by the wayside. Clooney seems to have enough of a sense of humor to pull it off, though.
~freddie Mon, Sep 23, 2002 (20:43) #1071
I think it would add to the humour and whole bit of him already playing Darcy if he played himself too...it could work....
~BarbS Mon, Sep 23, 2002 (21:00) #1072
I have heard it said that CF could play the interview in costume, as if the interview were occurring on a set....in particular, think dressed as Wessex. Of course they would not be able to do Wessex but, what a joke, he could do virtually any costume, Regency thing. I would hope they would include boots of course though. (That would be, uh, purely personal preference...) But now I think of it, what a nightmare the whole thing would be...P&P being a major "prop" for TEoR, a whole back-story that is too delicious for those who know it but miles above the head of the average movie patron, a nightmare of releases and copyright acknowledgments that would have little or no benefit to the average movie goer. Rats...gotta believe it will never happen. (Note to self...buy more candles.)
~lindak Mon, Sep 23, 2002 (21:12) #1073
I'm not happy with the interview being done by someone else. That was a hilarious part of the book. I agree with Lisa and Elizabeth. I think they could have found a way with a beard etc. to film that scene. Then Bridget could realize why she's crazy about Marc-because he looks like Darcy. I wish they would have consulted me about the script. Oh, well if it gets made and gets Colin in a towel-what the heck.
~Moon Mon, Sep 23, 2002 (21:34) #1074
(Lisa), I think it would add to the humour and whole bit of him already playing Darcy if he played himself too...it could work.... That's my take too. Besides, he can dress as his sloppy self for the interview, a definite change from the dapper MD. If they get GC as another love interest, that would free HG from the project. He knows that Daniel is nothing in TEOR. And CF and GC together in a film is... sing it Mary Poppins... "supercallyfragalistic...
~gomezdo Mon, Sep 23, 2002 (21:52) #1075
I don't think that setting up Colin as two different people is so much the issue. I think the general public can understand using the same person as two different people. I think it would be harder for those who wouldn't be and aren't familiar with the in-joke with the P&P connection. It's hilarious to us because we all know about that and the references to Livia. I would think it would completely fall flat to those out-of-the-know. People would wonder why interviewing Colin would be significant enough to be a part of the movie. At least with GC, he and his work is more generally known I think and there wouldn't have to be a big setup. If they had mentioned Bridget's P&P/CF obsession in the first movie it wouldn't be such a big deal to continue with it in TEoR. Of course, this all is IMHO.
~Tress Mon, Sep 23, 2002 (21:59) #1076
(Lisa), I think it would add to the humour and whole bit of him already playing Darcy if he played himself too...it could work.... If ODB played MD and himself, I think it could open up a few 'fantasy/dream' scenes as well...imagine Mr. Darcy (in wet shirt and riding boots of course) emptying BJ's dishwasher (wasn't there some quote regarding Brad Pitt emptying Bridget's dishwasher?) or Bridget done up in regency clothing talking to Mr. Darcy at Pemberly... George Clooney is a good second for the interview sequence (he is truly hilarious when interviewed), but I think that the whole P&P obsession in the books is too funny...there really isn't a GC movie that caused that kind of a fuss, is there?
~mari Mon, Sep 23, 2002 (22:31) #1077
Colin has said many times he wouldn't play himself, and that they'd get someone like George Clooney to be BJ's object of fandom. Plus, it's an in-joke and they can't build movies on in-jokes. CG is known in every nook and cranny of the globe, and they go for the global audience (and I can't blame them). Even the first movie made no reference to BJ liking P&P--that connection was pretty much removed altogether. Plus, how realistic would it be for BJ to be pining away for someone who caught her fancy 8 years ago? Err, strike that last question; we're all still here.;-)
~Moon Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (08:47) #1078
Plus, how realistic would it be for BJ to be pining away for someone who caught her fancy 8 years ago? Err, strike that last question; we're all still here.;-) LOL! But we're really here because of the friends we've made thanks to him. ;-) (Dorine), I would think it would completely fall flat to those out-of-the-know. People would wonder why interviewing Colin would be significant enough to be a part of the movie. Good point. not that I care for those not ion the know. ;-)
~mari Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (09:32) #1079
But we're really here because of the friends we've made thanks to him.;-) An excellent point, Moon. I find the society here quite pleasing.:-)
~Tress Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (10:08) #1080
(Dorine), I would think it would completely fall flat to those out-of-the-know. You're absolutely right...I will go hide now. I am just a huge fan of the interview scene...but I did say eariler that I would trade that for the towel scene anyday...and I would. I'm just being greedy....I want both!!
~dalec Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (10:37) #1081
(Dorine), I would think it would completely fall flat to those out-of-the-know. (Tress)You're absolutely right...I will go hide now. I am just a huge fan of the interview scene...but I did say eariler that I would trade that for the towel scene anyday...and I would. I'm just being greedy....I want both!! yeah, i agree too. maybe they'll do the GC and ER angle, GC didn't really get popular until ER which could possibly be a substitute for Colin's Mr. Darcy phenomenon. my friend borrowed my BJD books just a few months ago. she had no clue as to the whole Mr. Darcy/wet shirt/P&P2 thing but she nonetheless enjoyed the books immensely because of Bridget and Mark. she had not seen BJD the movie yet but she knew who was in the movie so all the while as she was reading the books she kept picturing Hugh as Mark Darcy!
~FanPam Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (10:57) #1082
(Mari)An excellent point, Moon. I find the society here quite pleasing.:-) Me too, ever so much. (Tress) I am just a huge fan of the interview scene...but I did say eariler that I would trade that for the towel scene anyday...and I would. I'm just being greedy....I want both!! Me, too. As I really think it is one of the funniest things in the book and one of the funniest things I have ever read. But Dorine is right, those who are not in the know wouldn't understand her passion and as I said earlier being that it wasn't alluded to in the first movie it would seem to be coming out of left field. So to appease the masses would be better to go with Clooney or some other high-profile celeb. Just will miss such a very very funny scene. I can really picture Colin and Rene's facial expressions while doing this. Absolutely hysterical.
~moonstar Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (11:29) #1083
(dalec) all the while as she was reading the books she kept picturing Hugh as Mark Darcy! Ack!! I really need that emoticon for dry heaves (Karen, are you listening?). You did set your friend straight, right???? Sit her down for a P&P2 session; doubt she'll make that mistake twice.
~Lizzajaneway Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (11:55) #1084
You mean .... she umm thought... er er that... yeah yeah right... oh...of course that Hugh was... yah ok well um.....;-) Bring on that emoticon for dry heaves and fast!
~Rika Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (12:08) #1085
GAG.... glad I read this before lunch and not after. (shudder)
~lindak Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (18:46) #1086
(Dorine)I would think it would completely fall flat to those out-of-the-know. People would wonder why interviewing Colin would be significant enough to be a part of the movie I hate it when you're right:-) (Mari)An excellent point, Moon. I find the society here quite pleasing.:-) Quite pleasing indeed. Thank you, ladies. I enjoy every moment here.
~Ebeth Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (19:10) #1087
Hmmm. Interview? Or towel? Interview? Or towel? (as if we have a choice...I suspect we will get neither.) OK, then, I'll vote for the towel, and insist that they shoot the interview just for fun and make it a DVD extra. How's that for magical thinking? :) Truly this is the most civilized and amusing society to be found anywhere.
~dalec Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (19:37) #1088
(moonstar) You did set your friend straight, right???? Sit her down for a P&P2 session; doubt she'll make that mistake twice. i did, she's still not a CF fan though. don't know if there's still hope for her. she did watch SIL again when i told her Colin was in it and said he looked so much better as Mark Darcy. she still finds it hard to believe that Wessex was played by Colin.
~gomezdo Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (19:44) #1089
(Elizabeth) OK, then, I'll vote for the towel, and insist that they shoot the interview just for fun and make it a DVD extra. How's that for magical thinking? :) I love this idea! But.........yeah, right. :-) (Pam) As I really think it is one of the funniest things in the book and one of the funniest things I have ever read. Me, too! Maybe second only to Lisa's story of her discovery of her employer's scripts for mutes, er, mute characters. ;-) (Mari) I find the society here quite pleasing.:-) Yes, indeed! Thanks everyone! A little tidbit I'd like to see included too would be the part where Bridget gets a message from Colin on the answering machine to arrange a time for the interview. Just
~gomezdo Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (19:48) #1090
Oops, hit the button before I was ready.As I was saying.... A little tidbit I'd like to see included,too, would be the part where Bridget gets a message from Colin on the answering machine to arrange a time for the interview. Just as they rewind, Tom calls and says, "Hello, you pretty little things, it's Mr. Darcy here just calling to see if anyone could help me out of this wet shirt." Would be funny to watch them all freak out. That guy that played Tom was a riot to me. :-)
~kathness Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (21:20) #1091
(dalec) she had not seen BJD the movie yet but she knew who was in the movie so all the while as she was reading the books she kept picturing Hugh as Mark Darcy! Oh, the sacrilege!!! But at least she wasn't picturing him as Mister Darcy!
~Rika Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (22:12) #1092
(Dorine) Just as they rewind, Tom calls and says, "Hello, you pretty little things, it's Mr. Darcy here just calling to see if anyone could help me out of this wet shirt." Would be funny to watch them all freak out. That guy that played Tom was a riot to me. :-) Oh, yes, would HATE to lose that. Well, I suppose they could Clooney-ize that moment somehow and include it.
~FanPam Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (09:16) #1093
(Elizabeth) OK, then, I'll vote for the towel, and insist that they shoot the interview just for fun and make it a DVD extra. How's that for magical thinking? :) In total agreement. Was thinking of this myself. (Dorine) That guy that played Tom was a riot to me. :-) I agree. I loved all her urban family very very much. Great characters and great friends. Hope they're on screen more in EOR. (Kathy) Oh, the sacrilege!!! But at least she wasn't picturing him as Mister Darcy! GOD FORBID!! One could be burned at the stake for that error.
~Tress Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (09:31) #1094
(Dorine) That guy that played Tom was a riot to me. :-) (FanPam) I agree. I loved all her urban family very very much. Great characters and great friends. Hope they're on screen more in EOR. One of my absolute favorite scenes in TEoR is when Tom's phone goes missing and Bridget has to hunt for it in the trash....I was a LOL moment for me...I hope as well that her urban family gets more screen time this time around....
~Rika Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (14:09) #1095
They filmed the dustbin scene for the first movie, right? And then (sigh) it got cut.
~Tress Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (16:39) #1096
(Rika) They filmed the dustbin scene for the first movie, right? And then (sigh) it got cut. Did they??? Now I'm really bummed. I liked that scene so much in the book. And I am sure they won't re-do it for TEoR...Although, from the sounds of things the movie will be quite a bit different. Wish they had included it in the deleted scenes.
~Rika Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (23:21) #1097
Tress, check out this page on The Bucket: http://www.spring.net/karenr/mdbro/bjdcut.html It's got some scenes and dialogue from the screenplay that did not appear in the film. The dialogue for the dustbin scene is there. When they cut the dustbin scene, they also had to change a line in the book launch party scene. Originally when Mark introduced Bridget and Natasha, his introduction of Bridget made reference to the phone in the dustbin, not the paddling pool.
~FanPam Thu, Sep 26, 2002 (09:49) #1098
Thanks for link Rika. Hadn't seen this before.
~Tress Thu, Sep 26, 2002 (09:56) #1099
(Rika) It's got some scenes and dialogue from the screenplay that did not appear in the film. The dialogue for the dustbin scene is there. Thanks Rika! As you can tell I still haven't found all the little goodies on The Bucket. I'm sorry the scene at the hotel (the mini-break scene) didn't make it as well. That was funny!
~KarenR Thu, Sep 26, 2002 (10:24) #1100
In case it is not clear, the deleted scenes included on that page were Mark Darcy's only and one involving the friends. Some people seem to think that only Colin's scenes were cut from the final version of the film. Not so. I just didn't choose to put the others up.
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