Hugh Jackman - Moon. If it ain't going to be ODB playing ODB - I'd go along and cast my vote for GC - will have boxoffice pull more than Hugh Jackman....but wonder whether the combined presence of HG and GC sink ODB's? Hello all - like KathyC, have dropped back in too. I see we've had some "renovations" and "additions" done to the CoolDrool place. Glad to see the humour and the wit are still first class from all. Off now to to do some heavy drooling and revision at the other threads.

(Minkee) wonder whether the combined presence of HG and GC sink ODB's? I don't think necessarily, Minkee. GC did a 3 scene cameo in Welcome to Collinwood and I don't think he overshadowed anyone there. And it wouldn't have been hard in that movie despite the presence of William H. Macy. Welcome Leigh and Kathy C! And nice to see you check in Minkee!

I just had a wine-induced inspiration - why not Richard Gere? You think Pierce Brosnan is old.... Hi Leigh & Kathy C

I'm sticking to my guns and I think that having Colin Firth dressed up as Mr. Darcy (17th century) with the sideburns, etc... it can be pulled off.

(Laura) I think that having Colin Firth dressed up as Mr. Darcy (17th century) with the sideburns, etc... Why would he need to be dressed like that?

(LauraMM) - I think the whole irony of the book is ruined if she doesn't interview Colin Firth. The whole thing about Bridget meeting a Mr. Darcy and his having the same qualities as Jane Austen's Mr. Darcy; then Colin Firth portrays him with absolute perfection and her absolute misidentification of the two men CF/FwD is the humor of it all. Laura, I'm with you...Why can't they just play with camera angles, showing mainly the back of his head and mainly showing BJ's face, we would still have the voice...There is no suitable substitie IMHO...

Why can't they? Because *he* won't do it. He's made that very obvious in his interviews and also by the elimination of any reference to him or to the character in the first movie.

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FYI, Al Fore is just a trouble-making troll that plagues various conferences. I've asked Terry to delink this topic from movies so that he won't be posting here as well. It is best not to answer him, as he has no interest in this topic or knowledge.

How about Jonathan Firth playing Colin Firth who gave the adored portrayal of Mr. Darcy? I much prefer either Richard Gere or Hugh Jackman; I almost forgot Pierce Brosnan who was also mentioned, to that lumox, George Clooney. Still, I'm probably in a minority in not liking GC, many people do which can translate in to box office, as noted.

(Tress) I think GC is a perfect 'second best'...I thought that he was already 'a sure thing' (or very close to it) in regards to doing it...(or am I just confused because he was mentioned by CF? No, you are correct. It very likely is a 'a sure thing.' The information that was in the news probably came from GC's publicist. However, expect others, like Colin or AD, to hedge, as it is *not* their role to issue such info. That belongs to the studio.

I still think that HE should rethink the whole idea. It's funny. Why can't he just be humble and do it? It's an extremely funny scene in the book. The reason why I say he should be dressed as Mr. Fitz Darcy is because that is how Bridget treated him as Mr. Darcy and NOT Colin Firth. Get it???

Well, of course we get it. But HE wants to shake off Darcy and has been adamant about not doing the scene. I don't think it's a matter of pride so much as he'd like to be remembered for other roles besides Mr. Darcy.

It has less to do with that then it's not appropriate for an actor at this stage in his career. When he's in his 70s or 80s, then it's OK to do a parody of oneself.

LOL Karen I had just typed a post to say the same thing and lost it. I even had parody in the text. I think it's a smart move on his part. He knows when enough is enough.

I can only think of one exception and that would be if he hosted Saturday Night Live. ;-)

I'm laughing at the very thought, Karen! And if P&P had been the phenomenon here that it was in England, that might have been a possibility back then. I can see him now coming out to do the intro, sopping wet, with oversized mutton-chop sideburns. (Though I find myself building the episode in my mind with the 1970's cast, which I guess shows my age. I'm presently imagining John Belushi as Mr. Darcy's "Samurai Valet".) I agree about the interview. Much as I'd love to get the chance to see it, and much as I hate to cede any screen time to yet another well-known actor (especially when they've got to fit HG into this movie too, grumble, grumble), it makes sense for them to line up someone else. HEY! Maybe HG could do the interview, and then they could leave Daniel out of the movie but still advertise that HG was in it. :-)

Rika, I thought about HG doing it and then losing the Daniel character too. I mean would any of you even THINK about going back to Daniel after Mark?? Oh, wait, we're talking about the brilliant one who made him wait while she went for some genuinely tiny knickers (v. v. silly girl!!) Karen, why did no one tell William Shatner about the age limits on self-parody?? Can you switch channels quickly enough when one of his Priceline commercials come on?

(Kathy C) I personally am looking forward to The Boy From OZ... I was "askeert" there for a minute until I realized you weren't talking about the bigmouthed bratty Oscar-winning Kiwi-born leg-over merchant. (Put down the guitar, back away from the barbecue...) I adore Mr. Jackman, myself, but if it can't be CF then I must admit I don't much care, as long as he's not overtly objectionable. Welcome (or back as the case may be) to Kathy C and Leigh! This one looks somewhat Mark Darcy-like, so ought to be topical enough.

Ah Elizabeth, one of my favorite pictures...positively dimplicious!

Elizabeth, You posted one of my all-time favourite CF pics! Ummm, let's see to stay on topic, was he at the BJD premire in this??? (Insert contrite winkie)

(Elizabeth S) This one looks somewhat Mark Darcy-like, so ought to be topical enough. It should look Mark Darcy-ish -- this was the RV premiere to which he was late because he was filming BJD too, that night.

Oh, that was the night they were filming the Kafka's Motorbike party, right? (Barb S) dimplicious! I love what Drool has done for my vocabulary. (Kattas) I mean would any of you even THINK about going back to Daniel after Mark?? That's one thing I like about TEOR. She thinks about it, but only in a moment of weakness, and she reaches the right conclusion pretty quickly.

Thanks for the picture Elizabeth. It's a good one. Can understand why Colin doesn't want to do interview. It would be making a parody of himself and he doesn't want that. And as everyone has said alot of people would not get it, so it's better off being done with someone else that more people would know.

(Rika)HEY! Maybe HG could do the interview, and then they could leave Daniel out of the movie but still advertise that HG was in it. :-) Positively brilliant, Rika. Somehow though, I don't think HG would agree. However, he did say in an interview (during his AAB publicity) that maybe they shouldn't do the sequel-he said it would be like putting on a wet bathing suit. Perhaps a cameo would appeal to him. Bridget could trip him, and they could have him falling into the fountain.

LauraM),I still think that HE should rethink the whole idea. It's funny. Why can't he just be humble and do it? Let's not forget that Colin almost did not sign to play MD. It was torture back then to think that he would not sign because it was such an in-joke. (Karen), It has less to do with that then it's not appropriate for an actor at this stage in his career. When he's in his 70s or 80s, then it's OK to do a parody of oneself. I don't see it that way. I always thought that he could go as Paul, the FP slob. It would be a contrast to proper MD. It can be done. He doesn't want to, and IMO, he's wrong.

(Laura) I think that having Colin Firth dressed up as Mr. Darcy (17th century) with the sideburns, etc... (Dorine)Why would he need to be dressed like that? Yeah...around Trevi Fountain?Giving Bridge a tour of Rome in that get- up...please. (Moon). I always thought that he could go as Paul, the FP slob... On the other hand, if he did Paul the slob, and Allen Portland, the ED jerk,he could do elegant Darcy.

(Evelyn), Yeah...around Trevi Fountain?Giving Bridge a tour of Rome in that get- up...please. LOL! We would demand that he enter the Trevi Fountain and give us the white shirt all over again! ;-)

EOR reference - there is a program on Channel 4 in the UK tonight all about IF by Kipling, I had no idea of its popularity in this country... 8:30 'The Art Show' The enduring appeal of Rudyard Kipling's famous 1910 work If, which was written at the tail-end of the British Empire and was recently voted the nation's favourite poem. The programme follows contemporary writers Bunmi Ogunsiji, Sophie Wooley, Owen Sheers and Selima Hill as they attempt to create their own 21st-century versions of the celebrated work. Wonder if they will mention that great work we read it in...

(Emma)Wonder if they will mention that great work we read it in... Maybe they will, another scene from the book that I hope they leave in.

lindak: Maybe they will... Alas no - it was a serious poetry show about modern reworkings inspired by Kipling. Interesting though. I really like the inclusion of that poem as well - though I get a little confused as to how MD thought it was a note and not the poem he gave Bridget. It's good inspiration for her, all except for the 'you'll be a man, my son!' part - but it was a certain time when it was written I suppose.

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(LindaK, expanding on my suggestion for HG in TEOR) Perhaps a cameo would appeal to him. Bridget could trip him, and they could have him falling into the fountain. Do you think if we took up a big enough collection this could really happen? I'd pay a fair amount of money to see this!

Don't know how reliable this is, but I found this: http://www.videoeta.com/news/1284 If you click on the Bridget Jones 2 link, you will see George Clooney and ODB listed, but not Hugh Grant.

Movies.com has EOR listed with Colin, Renee, Hugh and George Clooney ("rumoured") being in the cast: http://movies.go.com/movies/B/bridgetjonestheedgeofreason_2003/index.html The Internet Movie Database only has the title up, nothing about the cast yet, but I've found IMDB to be slow about updating its listings.

(Rika)I'd pay a fair amount of money to see this! I'd pay extra.

OK, I'm now sold on the Clooney idea. They ran video clips on the huge outdoor screens during the rain delay at the race I attended today, and you should have heard the pack of women behind me oooh and ahhh when he appeared on screen in the "Man of Constant Sorrow" video. If it'll get more paying customers out to see the movie, he'll do just fine. Now if only CF would get a percentage too...

Okay, I'm back after the weekend. My wish to see Bridge interview Mr D (P&P2) is going to remain in my dreams then!?

(Tress) Don't know how reliable this is Given that it says Miramax, I'd say not very. Remember, many of these websites (e.g., the IMDB) use information provided by people like you and me, so they are not terribly authoritative and frequently uncurrent.

I'm almost finished re-reading TEoR. I am surprised at all the ER, and Clooney references in there that I missed the first time. I guess that's one of the reasons his name came up in the first place. Duh! *slapping self*

LOL, Linda! I wonder who HF has a crush on now? ;-)

I was just over at Murph's page and saw the close-up of the ending kiss in BJD...didn 't realize her little hand was on his chin....sweet.

Thank you Evelyn (and Mary)! I noticed the hand going to the chin a while back...one of my favorite little things about that scene. I just love the coat sharing....Gawd! The moment when he opens up his coat to invite her in (good thing I'm sitting down)...it's still early here, so this is a great way to start my day.

(Tress)one of my favorite little things about that scene Must we talk about the ending scene of BJD? You all know what it does to me. Please, am v. important and have work to do.:-)) Thank you Evelyn, for mixing up my priorities yet again. Seems to happen to me at least once a day around here.

This is one of my favorite scenes too. I watch it over and over and then can't talk for a while. Does amazing things to me too, Linda.

As we were going out of the theatre after seeing BJD, I overheard one woman sayto her husband,'Now why can't you be like that?' Must say that scene still has the power to make me feel tingly all over.

(Kattas) As we were going out of the theatre after seeing BJD, I overheard one woman sayto her husband,'Now why can't you be like that?' Poor guy - what an impossible standard to live up to!

As I mentioned the other day, I'm re-reading TEoR. Just discovered that there is a second towel scene. I almost like this one better than the first (if that's possible)This one I hope they must leave in. It's when he is in the bath at Bridget's and Daniel comes by, drunk. Marc jumps out of the bath and punches out Daniel. There is even a reference that the towel almost slips off. Can you imagine...HG getting his lights put out by a dripping wet, towel clad, CF. I can't believe, how much I just glossed over the first time I read this.

Sadly, I have to point out that decking him as he comes around drunk is very much like the BDJ scene. Do you think they'd keep it?

Actually, I'd much rather they kept the first towel scene in Mark's kitchen than the fight with Daniel. You're right, a second fight would not go over well, IMHO.

It wasn't a fight,like in BJD. Mark just punches him, and then apologizes, Daniel leaves. I'm more interested in the towel, the bath, and the scene that follows,not the punch.

Linda, are you thinking of the naked scene as a towel scene, where (towards the end) they are both screaming at each other in surprise? 'Cause HF clearly uses the word NAKED in that scene. (Have page ear-marked and "Naked" underlined.) Hope you didn't miss that because it is a key scene for me - I know CF won't do it the way it's written, but it sure is nice thinking about it. Must go watch "The Advocate" and get in proper frame of mind.) LizBeth

(Kattas) Actually, I'd much rather they kept the first towel scene in Mark's kitchen than the fight with Daniel. You're right, a second fight would not go over well, IMHO. (lindak) I'm more interested in the towel, the bath, and the scene that follows,not the punch. (LizBeth) Linda, are you thinking of the naked scene as a towel scene, where (towards the end) they are both screaming at each other in surprise? 'Cause HF clearly uses the word NAKED in that scene. The kitchen scene was definitely nekk'd. The towel scene at the end can lose the punch, but I want the rest to stay!!! The part with the police coming to Bridget's rescue because she was 'frantically pressing the panic button' is hilarious!

(Kattas) Actually, I'd much rather they kept the first towel scene in Mark's kitchen than the fight with Daniel. The first towel scene is at Rebecca's weekend party, you know, when he's striding around in barrister mode, trying to deal with having walked in on Bridget kissing the Whippersnapper.

The towel scene that Linda is thinking of is later on. The kitchen scene is at Mark's house while she's staying there while they try to figure out who sent her the bullet. Once Gary the Builder has been apprehended, they go back to Bridget's, Mark takes a bath, and Daniel shows up. Mark bounds down the stairs in a towel and punches Daniel in the nose. No fight, actually - just one punch and Daniel's down. There's a third towel scene too, now that I think of it. Later that night when the police answer the "panic button" Mark goes to the door wrapped in a towel.

(Rika)There's a third towel scene too You're right Rika, but I re-read the bath scene, doesn't say anything about a towel, he just goes down the stairs and hits Daniel. I assumed he had a towel because he was in the bath. The scene that comes later, he wraps a towel around himself, because of the panic button, he and Bridget were having a shag..

(Karen) The first towel scene is at Rebecca's weekend party, you know, when he's striding around in barrister mode, trying to deal with having walked in on Bridget kissing the Whippersnapper. I completely forgot about that part of the book (I really need to re-read it). (Rika)There's a third towel scene too (lindak) You're right Rika, but I re-read the bath scene, doesn't say anything about a towel, he just goes down the stairs and hits Daniel. It keeps getting better...they can't possibly cut out THREE towel scenes! They have to give us at least one! I know, I know....he won't do it...but we can dream. ;-) (lindak) The scene that comes later, he wraps a towel around himself, because of the panic button, he and Bridget were having a shag.. And as the police leave, the towel begins to slip...HF must have been in full blown CF obsession mode when she wrote this stuff (lucky us)! ;-)

I'm praying for at least one towel scene but he seems to be reluctant. And even if he does consent, lets hope it doesn't end up on the cutting room floor as so much of the good stuff does. Any towel scenes in WSAGW? Just hoping.

Linda, you're right about the Mark-bounds-down-the-stairs scene. It actually doesn't say what he's wearing - I've just always imagined MD in a towel there. I wonder why? :-) (Pam) Any towel scenes in WSAGW? Just hoping. I assume you mean WAGW. Seems verrrrrry unlikely.

(Rika)I've just always imagined MD in a towel there. I wonder why? :-) I think it's called the power of positive thinking. I, too assumed he was wearing a towel, because of the bath. Hey, maybe he went down nekkid but, I think Bridget would have told us that.

Leaving the towel behind for a moment... don't we all wish he WOULD leave the towel behind... Wait, where was I? My mind seems to have wandered. Anyway, I read today that GC's new movie Solaris is expected to get an R rating because of a certain male actor's naked posterior. If Bridget is made to be as nuts over GC as she was (quite rightly) over ODB imagine the interview when she ends up questioning him about THAT scene. It could have possibilities.

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but do you think they will refilm the lake scene with GC so it can be in TEOR? Just rereading TEOR and seems crucial to have the video in the movie...

Somebody is going to HAVE to do a wet shirt scene - the *whole* interview is about the shirt - and the wetness of it. Lets hope...

(MariaT)Sorry if this has already been discussed, but do you think they will refilm the lake scene with GC so it can be in TEOR? Just rereading TEOR and seems crucial to have the video in the movie... Well, they'd have to make some reference to something GC's been in (or they could make something up). Doesn't have to be P&P. Remember they didn't refer to the BBC production of P&P or Colin Firth as an object of Bridget's obsession in the first film.

I doubt they would try to fit GC into the Darcy/P&P premise. All they need to do is convey fixation with any GC scene in any video (even potentially manufactured for the purpose.) And then for the interview, all she needs to do is be star-struck and hit a topic single-mindedly. If GC would let them use it, they have the perfect set-up, former girl friend Celine Balitran just commented on his skill as a lover, I forget what she said exactly, but I believe the word shattering was used: BJ: Do you have any comment on the remarks by former girlfriend (whatever) that you were a "shattering" lover? GC: (embarrassed laugh) Um, no, I guess, well, I'm certainly gratified by the praise, but let's just say I'm not a "kiss-and-tell" kind of guy. BJ: You're gratified? (whispered aside--Sounds more like she was.) OK then, let's see, your next project...umm...shattering hmmm? (Pause) You know, I was just wondering, if you WERE shattering, what is it you DID, do you suppose, that made you shattering? GC: (beginning to look uncomfortable)... OK, I'll stop now, I'm beginning to have too much fun with this, but you see what I mean. As much as it adds to the humor and irony for all of us, if GC in the role has any echo of CF or P&P, I will be amazed.

Now I understand.

(BarbS)BJ: Do you have any comment on the remarks by former girlfriend (whatever) that you were a "shattering" lover? GC: (embarrassed laugh) Um, no, I guess, well, I'm certainly gratified by the praise, but let's just say I'm not a "kiss-and-tell" kind of guy. BJ: You're gratified? (whispered aside--Sounds more like she was.) OK then, let's see, your next project...umm...shattering hmmm? (Pause) You know, I was just wondering, if you WERE shattering, what is it you DID, do you suppose, that made you shattering? GC: (beginning to look uncomfortable)... LOL! Way to go Barb! I like your tack...Leave GC to be GC without trying to echo any hint of CF...Hey, they watch videos of ER in the book too so not so far off...

As the 2 subjects of this article has 6 degrees or closer to BJD, I am putting this article here...okay Boss? Published today on the ninemsn website Down here, from "New Weekly" ... Liz lures gorgeous George She's one of the world's sexiest women, he's Hollywood's most eligible bachelor - meet the hottest A-list couple. Actress Liz Hurley is dating George Clooney following a determined campaign to win his heart. The 37-year-old first set her sights on sexy George, 41, shortly after the birth of her son, Damian, in April and now sources say they are the new Hollywood 'It' couple. "We are falling for each other. He's everything I am looking for in a man," Liz has told friends. Dared by a pal, she got George's attention by sending a fax to his office which read, "It's right what they say, you are the sexiest man alive - love Liz xxx." And the move paid off, with sources revealing the pair have enjoyed several romantic dinners since. Just two weeks ago they met at a swanky French restaurant in LA. "They were very close and were whispering all night," reveals an onlooker. "It's early days but there is a definite buzz between them," reports a source close to Liz. "They are enjoying getting to know one another and having a romantic time of it." This follows a tough period in the new mum's life, which left her unsure if she would ever find Mr Right. She has been photographed with a couple of men recently, but insists the guys in question are just good friends. "Liz is really quite man-hungry right now," continues the source. "Ever since she had her baby, she's found it more difficult to meet up with a man who she's attracted to and likes as a potential mate." According to the pal, it was about three weeks ago that the British beauty set about trying to change her luck with the opposite sex. "Liz came across George Clooney's personal phone numbers, including his direct cell, home number, and home and office faxes," explains the friend. "You must remember, Hollywood is a very small town. Everybody who's anybody knows exactly what everyone else is up to." So, egged on by her gal pal, Liz - who's constantly jetting back and forth between London and LA, where George lives - scrawled her flirtatious fax and sent it off. But it nearly all went horribly wrong. Seeing the fax, George's personal assistant - no doubt familiar with love letters being sent to the Hollywood heart-throb - picked it up and read it. She thought the document was sent by another famous Liz - 70-year-old Elizabeth Taylor. Still, despite the age gap, George decided to call the elder Liz. "He had to chuckle when Taylor told him, 'I couldn't possibly have dinner with you - you're too sexy and way too young,'" reveals Clooney's close friend Tommy Hinckley. Fortunately George soon realised the fax was from Liz Hurley and picked up the phone for a second time to arrange a meeting. While they've been spotted enjoying each other's company on a number of occasions since, the pair are yet to be photographed together, so we mocked up a photo to see how they look as a couple. Liz's friend adds that the Serving Sara star always thought Clooney was totally gorgeous, but was also very aware of his wild reputation. "She's not bothered by that. She knows he's a playboy, so it's not a man of stability she's looking for in him," the source explains. "She knows - bottom line - that a night out with George would be fun." While they're both similarly wealthy and attractive, the odds are out on whether this relationship will last. A confirmed bachelor, the Ocean's Eleven star has been linked to a string of women, including Renee Zellweger and French model Celine Balitran, but has reportedly vowed never to tie the knot again (he was married to actress Talia Balsam for three years) or have children. Meanwhile, Liz is well known for her shaky relationships, which have included British actor Hugh Grant and American billionaire Steve Bing, who is also the father of her child.

(Minkee) Actress Liz Hurley is dating George Clooney following a determined campaign to win his heart. A confirmed bachelor, the Ocean's Eleven star has been linked to a string of women, including Renee Zellweger... ...Liz is well known for her shaky relationships, which have included British actor Hugh Grant... Thanks for the article Minkee! LOL...should everyone sign for TEoR, the set could be real cozy! All those exs. It has the potential to be like the set of the Jerry Springer show!! And Barb! You should be a screenwriter. Your GC interview is v. v. funny!

"...She knows he's a playboy, so it's not a man of stability she's looking for in him," Well I'm sure the baby would find *that* reassuring for his future. Thanks, Minkee. Hey, don't be a stranger! :-)

Another topic option for the GC interview could be the bathtub scene from Out of Sight. Talk of naked GC to distract BJ? A possibility... (Tress) should everyone sign for TEoR, the set could be real cozy! LOL! My thoughts, exactly!

And GC did do one at least one wet-shirt scene on ER - the time Ross rescued the kid in the water.

(Moonstar)Another topic option for the GC interview could be the bathtub scene from Out of Sight. Or the locked-in-the-car-trunk with J.Lo scene! Hot stuff . . . Enjoyed your script, Barb! "...She knows he's a playboy, so it's not a man of stability she's looking for in him," (Dorine)Well I'm sure the baby would find *that* reassuring for his future. Pfft! My thoughts exactly. The 37-year-old first set her sights on sexy George, 41, shortly after the birth of her son, Damian, in April Yup, that would the first thing on the typical woman's mind too after giving birth. "Let's see if I can hook up with yet another man who won't marry me."

"Liz came across George Clooney's personal phone numbers, including his direct cell, home number, and home and office faxes," explains the friend. Oh, please! Came across? LOL! Still, despite the age gap, George decided to call the elder Liz. "He had to chuckle when Taylor told him, 'I couldn't possibly have dinner with you - you're too sexy and way too young,'" That's a cute story. But I am surprised at LT. Go for it girl! LOL! Thanks, Minkee!

"Liz came across George Clooney's personal phone numbers, including his direct cell, home number, and home and office faxes," explains the friend. (Moon) Oh, please! Came across? LOL! LOL...this is happening to me all the time! I go home after work or going out and I find fax and cell numbers of famous people stuffed into my pockets and in my purse! I just hate that! Wish they would stop hiding them on my person! Funny they don't return my calls... ;-D

I've been worried about the interview scene, especially after re-reading TEoR. I thought,(horrors), maybe they would just throw out the whole scene. First, because when Bridget is sent on the interview she's specifically told to interview CF about his new movie, FP. She then lapses into the whole Darcy/wet shirt thing, with CF becoming very uncomfortable. I kept thinking this is hilarious for a number of reasons, but mostly because it mirrors real life so well with CF trying to shake the Darcy factor. Look at all the articles, even recently, about him that have Darcy in the title. I felt if CF didn't do the interview then the humor of it all would be lost until......I read Barb's version with GC. Now, I know it can work. They do watch ER videos all the time in the book, the P&P viewings could easily be transfered to ER. Thanks, Barb, you've given me a new perspective.

(Linda) I read Barb's version with GC. Now, I know it can work...Thanks, Barb, you've given me a new perspective. Thank you but actually I'm v. sorry to hear that. Actually, I WAS having too much fun with it and did some of my own fixating. Once I'm done channeling BJ and I get leave to subvert our fan fiction topic, I might post the results. And I'm ashamed to say, I could not leave out "echoes" of ODB....maybe, if the interview can't be the way it was written, it will bridge the gap.

Barb, if you're worried about putting it on fanfic, just post it here! I'm sure you'd get no complaints!

(BarbS) I might post the results Barb, please don't say *might*! You must! I'm glad you're channeling BJ. The tidbit you gave us this morning was very good and I want more...(please)... ;-)

Thanks Barb for a very very funny scenario. Let's hope the EoR writers are as clever. Thanks for a really interesting item Minkee. LH seems to have a one tract mind where men are concerned.

You're welcome! Glad I could contribute something in return for hundreds of hours of entertainment from you guys. (Dorine) Thanks, Minkee. Hey, don't be a stranger! :-) Come over to O&E - I'll tell you about being a stranger

An excerpt from an article about RZ's body double, sent to me by Aishling. I'll post the whole thing (which is v. interesting) later at The Bucket: Of course, one of the greatest perks of the job was working with Hugh Grant and Colin Firth. 'They're both lovely men,' Melinda admits. 'When I first met Colin, I thought, "Oh no, you can't be married with children. It's just not fair!" He really is everyone's ideal man. He is level-headed and easy to talk to, and was encouraging when I told him how much I wanted to act myself. But he was more reserved than Hugh,' who, according to Melinda, seemed similar to his alter ego Daniel Cleaver. 'Or, at least, that was my perception of him....

v. interesting - thanks, Karen! Looking forward to reading the whole thing. He really is everyone's ideal man. Cloning is looking more and more necessary all the time.

(Melinda)He really is everyone's ideal man. Hey Rika, maybe he is perfect after all;-) Thank you, Karen for the exerpt, I look forward to reading it on The Bucket.

Thanks Aishling...glad you're still out there sleuthing...

He is level-headed and easy to talk to... As I suspected. Of course the ladies from TDoR could vouch for that I would expect. It is nice to hear poeple who have had contact with him in a 'working' environment say things like that. Better, stop, getting off topic.

(Melinda) He really is everyone's ideal man. (lindak) Hey Rika, maybe he is perfect after all;-) Truly, a man without fault... ;-)

I've put up the complete article here: http://www.firth.com/bjd/bjdsupp6.html Some staggering revelations if I do say so myself!

Thanks, Karen! Some staggering revelations if I do say so myself! I'm as surprised as you are. Actors are overpaid, IMO.

Thanks Karen! Interesting. I just always assumed it was Renee's writing in the diary (silly me)! And the legs on the scale must have been Melinda as well...she did a good job. She can walk just like Renee! They better tell M soon whether she is to be a size 8 or a size 12 for TEoR....it's easy to pack the pounds on, but harder to take them off....

In the end, Melinda became Ren�e?s body double throughout the film. Spoiler:-(( Melinda) He really is everyone's ideal man. (lindak) Hey Rika, maybe he is perfect after all;-) (KJ)Truly, a man without fault... ;-) "Not always"....

(Ev) "Not always".... That's a quote from Livia, isn't it, as I recall? ;-)

Thanks, Karen! As others have commented, I had no idea body doubles did that much stuff for the stars. I wonder if this is true of lower-budget films too? I suppose it probably is, if the whole point is to get things done faster and thus save money.

Excellent article, thanks so much Karen. I found Melinda's story to be very interesting. It sounds like she spent more time with HG than CF. Now the 'legs running in the snow' scene. That's the full-length backside shot with the sweater flapping behind her? Also want to have another peek at the dogs sniffing scene. Surely if she can't tell where she stops and RZ begins, then I won't either. Also, picked up on gobsmacked, a bit of British lingo to file away for future reference.

Ev) "Not always".... That's a quote from Livia, isn't it, as I recall? ;-) Correct-o. The response to a Firthette who was looking down on ODB from the balcony of the Donmar lobby. She:"Isn't he won-der-ful"? Wife: "Not always" [Isn't that typical?]

(Evelyn) Correct-o. The response to a Firthette who was looking down on ODB from the balcony of the Donmar lobby. She:"Isn't he won-der-ful"? Wife: "Not always" Off topic, but....*In my best Lady Bracknell voice* ... "I am glad to hear it." ODB wouldn't be any fun if he were too perfect. It's much more amusing to mix-it-up a bit every once it a while. Good to hear he keeps LD on her toes (and I hope she does the same for him)! ;-)

Thank you, Karen for the article. V. interesting. (Tress)ODB wouldn't be any fun if he were too perfect Correct. I'd love to know how, when, where, and what "not always" means.

When I saw the credits for BJD last night (I had to check out the doubling-part) I noticed, that ODB had a bodydouble as well. Does anybody know, where he was "used"?

He was used for the same type of thing, where Colin didn't have lines and was shot from the rear. Didn't I post a message here at one time about if we had questions for the double? I know someone who knows him.

Oh my, I have to think. Where, where would he be in the film? Some bits of the fight scene? Surely not when he was running up the stairs?? ;)