(Lisa) Surely not when he was running up the stairs?? ;) Oh, no, certainly not then! We can't have been worshipping the wrong Stairmaster! :-D

(Lisa) Surely not when he was running up the stairs?? ;) (Rika) Oh, no, certainly not then! We can't have been worshipping the wrong Stairmaster! :-D I certainly hope not! I feel the need to go do some extensive research, involving BJD and MLSF (and maybe P&P2 thrown in for good measure)! Oh, the trials of being a Stairmaster student! ;-)

I'm with Rika, it just could not be the stairs-scene. I am afraid, that perhaps he was used "walking in the snow". That would be a big turn-down to me, because I just love his walk, and find that scene v.g. (in fact - it courses (now I'm having trouble spelling again) vibrations). As to the fight scene, I just heard HG today on E saying, that they locked away all the stuntmen and did the entire fight-scene themselves. But, perhaps Karens contact could clear that up?

(Annette) (in fact - it courses (now I'm having trouble spelling again) vibrations). Your spelling is close enough. Causes vibrations, indeed! I can certainly relate.

Kathy Thank you, its nice to know, that you don't have any doubts, as to how my mind hops about. Now, I'm off to Bedfordshire (here it is 0.30 a.m. - thank you Rika).

(Kathy F) involving BJD and MLSF (and maybe P&P2 thrown in for good measure)! Oh, the trials of being a Stairmaster student! ;-) Oh Stairmaster Wonder..pl. don't tell me if you find there was a Mr. Darcy double.

(Annette)I am afraid, that perhaps he was used "walking in the snow". Well I know what Karen said about using the double when he was shot from the rear with no lines...but, I can't imagine that the walking in the snow scene was the double. That walk was too perfect, too CF. IMO, of course. But, yeah, that might have been a good question to ask...Can we still ask? I'm with you Annette, I might not want to know the answer.;-)

ILinda) but, I can't imagine that the walking in the snow scene was the double. That walk was too perfect, too CF. IMO, of course. Agreed. It's just so distinctive - verrrry long stride, arms swinging in just the right way, the sauntering feel to it. If it wasn't him, it was an excellent mimic. Okay, now, in the first scene, that WAS his rear view that Bridget responded to with a "Ding Dong", right? Right? Please? Oh, I don't even like thinking about this.

(Rika) Oh, no, certainly not then! We can't have been worshipping the wrong Stairmaster! :-D (KathyF) I certainly hope not! I feel the need to go do some extensive research, involving BJD and MLSF.... I've been all out of sorts today wondering about where the CF double was used (I know the fight scene. Going through the window, and I understand that need for that)! Okay. I can handle the stairs prior to the discovery of Cleaver and his wife. The hand opening the door was probably the double as well (although, that was a naked HG according to Sharon Maguire). It was probably a hand double stirring the congealed green gundge....but the whisk! Had to be ODB as the camera pans up (I will believe this even if I hear otherwise)...and the snow walk! I don't want to know!!! Had to be ODB. Actually watched BJD today (weather here turned to cr*p and it was the only movie to get me out of my funk). The snow walk had to be ODB...those strides, that swinging coat!! I may never recover if I hear it wasn't him!! :-(

Oh that walk of ODB just has to be him. No double! That walk is too unique to have someone else copy. Those long strides, the arm swinging, I get all verklemped just thinking about it!

Our man on the scene ("Burberry Man") was there the day they shot the fight scene and saw two men, with padding, and wearing the same clothes as CF & HG. Those were "stunt doubles" not body doubles or stand-in, which are used for other purposes. I've never asked specifically which shots, but certainly the hand on the door wouldn't have been Colin's. The snow stride would likely be him, as you saw him from head to toe and you can't mistake that walk. (Rika) in the first scene, that WAS his rear view that Bridget responded to with a "Ding Dong", right? Right? Please? If I had to bet on it, NOT. But I haven't asked.

(Karen)and saw two men, with padding, and wearing the same clothes as CF & HG. Those were "stunt doubles" not body doubles or stand-in, They would have gone through the restaurant window. But the rear view of MD walking away with his jacket over his shoulder had to be ODB.

(Rika) in the first scene, that WAS his rear view that Bridget responded to with a "Ding Dong", right? Right? Please? (Karen) If I had to bet on it, NOT. Was just thinking how silly that would be to have a double for just that little shot, but then I realized how long it can take to film a shot like that and how Colin could be in another part of that set/house filming his dialogue with Bridget or his mother or whatever at the same time. Or somewhere else completely.

But the rear view of MD walking away with his jacket over his shoulder had to be ODB. For sure...he talks and walks, no cut away. And agree with the snow scene. Problem is there aren't that many scenes where he could be doubled. A hand here and there but not too many. And I always wondered, since we are all wondering!, did they fly him to NY to do the shot outside the airport or was it done in the UK? They have American taxis in that shot, don't they?

(Rika) in the first scene, that WAS his rear view that Bridget responded to with a "Ding Dong", right? Right? Please? (Karen) If I had to bet on it, NOT. But I haven't asked. Oh, please...don't tell me I've been 'Ding Donging' the wrong man!!! Aughhhh! ;-( To think I have been staring at that behind thinking it belonged to ODB! To have it be an impostor?!?

It was filmed at Stansted airport. Definitely not an American airport. Times shown are military type and the signage was laughable. ;-)

(Lisa) And I always wondered, since we are all wondering!, did they fly him to NY to do the shot outside the airport or was it done in the UK? They have American taxis in that shot, don't they? I believe that Sharon Maguire said (on the DVD commentary) that it was all done in the UK because they didn't have the budget to fly there for that tiny sequence.

I'd better start this with a big spoiler allert in case you would like to stay ignorant on some subjects. I had some unexpectet time on my hand and had to choose between cleaning the house or do some extensive research. I chose the latter. This is a faithful narrative of my dealings with BJD: The Ding-dong scene: I have to agree with Karen. I think his neck seems to be different from the shot were he is talking to his mother. IMO the backside of the reindeer sweater is a double (sigh!) Tarts and Vicars party: Perhaps the walk away with Natascha (anyway, who cares). The stairs in the hallway: Yueeepeeee (that means hurrah or something) it was taken in one shot, so it definitely is ODB running up those stairs (flashing leg!). The kitchen: The hand, that stirs the blue soup and the concealed green gunge, I can�t tell. I don�t know his thumb that well. Perhaps, when we have seen GWAPE , we can decide. (Sidemark: I certainly hope, they will shoot the scene, with Vermeer caressing Griets face). The fight: I have to believe, that it actually is ODB punching HG. And I didn�t find anything to prove me wrong. Beside HG didn�t have a double and I don�t think they would shoot the scene with one of each (actor and double). The part where they go through the window was done by the stunts. I believe that was the stuffed ones, Karen mentioned. The doorway scene in the flat: I know, no need to check for doubles, but just for my own benefit I had to rewind it several times. How anyone could walk away from that man is beyond me! Sorry � back to research The walk we see from Bridgets window could be a double. The next scene (my favourite walk), you see Colin look to the right. IMO it most certainly is him. The last walk � again I can�t tell if its a double. And now � back to the cleaning (perhaps if I put on Lady come down, that can get me going).

Thanks for the research, Annette! The myth has been broken and we will from now on check for the double. :-(

OK I had a look and while I haven't viewed BDJ more than maybe 25 times tonight I decided that the hand on the door when he caught Cleaver and his wife was a bad double for ODB. Too fat. It was ruddy but that could be attributed to the lighting. My sons had fun freeze-framing it to catch the padded suits flying through the window too.

Annette)The fight: I have to believe, that it actually is ODB punching HG Better be, he sure blabbed about it enough on all the talk shows. .

Let me clarify. The stunt doubles only went through the window. Colin and Hugh did their sissy fight scene themselves, as far as I know. When you check the credits, Colin did have the full "star" treatment on this film. He had a double, a stunt double, a stand-in and a driver, all listed in the credits. OK, no personal hairdresser or makeup artist, but you rarely see that for the men. ;-)

(Rika) in the first scene, that WAS his rear view that Bridget responded to with a "Ding Dong", right? Right? Please? (Karen) If I had to bet on it, NOT. But I haven't asked. You do realize you've just broken my heart. (Annette) The doorway scene in the flat: I know, no need to check for doubles, but just for my own benefit I had to rewind it several times. I know the feeling! I have some wonderful DVD captures of that scene (some of them posted here not long ago). (Karen) OK, no personal hairdresser or makeup artist, but you rarely see that for the men. ;-) Except Rupie in TIOBE. :-)

(Rika)You do realize you've just broken my heart. Double or not, it is ODB when he turns around, not that that's all that matters, but I will choose to believe it is Colin from the rear as well, though I must say, on closer inspection, I think the shoulders are slightly broader, but that could be the sweater, too. On further inspection, the butt does seem to be as tight as ODB's... It's a very hard one to call. (Rika)Except Rupie in TIOBE. :-) LOL.

Okay, y'all KNEW I was going to go off and capture the evidence, right? I think it's him in the "Ding DONG" shot. Here it is: This is followed by a close-up of the back of Mark Darcy's head that sure looks like CF's hair (the waves, and the little point in the back center that often impinges on his collar), but that isn't relevant to the case I'm building since it's a different shot. Then Pam Jones takes Bridget over to see if Mark fancies a gherkin. She calls Mark's name. Here's the sequence of shots: These two are almost certainly the same person as shown in the first photo above - note the drape of the sweater and trousers. And the two above were a continuous shot. So that means that all three of these are almost certainly the same person. So, from that slight bit of profile, is that him? At this point it's clearly him. See the little curl that's sitting on top of his ear? I think I see it in the shot above as well. That seems a detail that would be tough to reproduce with a double. And in that case, if you believe the logic I've set out above, he's the person in the "Ding Dong" shot. At least that's my story and I'm sticking by it. Oh, okay, so I didn't need this one. But I love the little unruly curl that's sticking out. :-)

(Rika)...And in that case, if you believe the logic I've set out above, he's the person in the "Ding Dong" shot. At least that's my story and I'm sticking by it. Thank you Rika!!! I'm sticking by your story too! No one can persuade me otherwise....Ding Dong! And many thanks for the last photo. I DO think it was a needed shot. The third shot...the line of the jaw and the ear (as well as that curl you mentioned) seem to belong to ODB. Also, note the flat spot on the back of his hair (prior to the unruly curl), toward the back...it can be seen in the last two shots. I didn't need a lot of convincing. I will continue to suck my breath in when I see this scene. ;-)

(Rika) But I love the little unruly curl that's sticking out. :-) LOL....perhaps the same unruly curl held back by a clip in the Making of TIOBE?

Rika "Holmes" I shall know call you. Indeed, if you check the trouser creases in the posterior as you watch your frames progress you will see they are constant. Same person, IMAO. (In my amatuer opinion.)

(Karen) OK, no personal hairdresser or makeup artist, but you rarely see that for the men. ;-) I just remember reading a while back about a hair or/and makeup artist, who had listet Colin Firth in American Girl in his/her resume. It was before they changes the name of the movie. (Perhaps that indicates, that he is finally getting the attention, he deserves. I don't know, how to express, what I mean. It is something in the line of getting on top of the billing or whatever it's called. (Rika)...And in that case, if you believe the logic I've set out above, he's the person in the "Ding Dong" shot. At least that's my story and I'm sticking by it. Rika, you wonderful girl, I will never again doubt, that the ding-dong shot is made with ODB and ODB alone. Later, I will go back to check up the doorway-captures. I'll wait until I have my boots and bucket ready (thank you Karen).

(Rika)...And in that case, if you believe the logic I've set out above, he's the person in the "Ding Dong" shot. At least that's my story and I'm sticking by it. (Tress) Thank you Rika!!! I'm sticking by your story too! No one can persuade me otherwise....Ding Dong! And many thanks for the last photo. I DO think it was a needed shot. It certainly appears to be one continuous shot. Why go to all the expense and bother of a body double when CF had to be in the shot, anyway? IMO, Ding Dong is definitely ODB and not some lame imposter. The only reason we see him from the back is so that when he turns around we see...the reindeer jumper. Hey, what was wrong with BJ anyway? I swear I wouldn't have noticed the reindeer with CF's face there to gaze upon!

(Rika)...And in that case, if you believe the logic I've set out above, he's the person in the "Ding Dong" shot. At least that's my story and I'm sticking by it. Well, I'm sticking to your story, too...and in the words of Jack Worthing "deny it if you dare". (Tress)And many thanks for the last photo. I DO think it was a needed shot. Absolutely, ditto. It really makes the investigation complete. But, then again, Holmes was always thorough. BTW, Rika, thank you for those rear shots, I certainly enjoyed your investigations. I bet your heart isn't broken now. Now, shall we investigate the walking in the snow scene? Ahem, I mean as long as we're investigating;-)

I too watched BJD last night, and am glad to see that at least some of my dreams remain intact. As I read the postings yesterday I had images of nightmares of staring at someone else's butt!

(Linda) Now, shall we investigate the walking in the snow scene? Unfortunately, still shots don't really help as much in this case, because it's seeing him in motion that makes me think it's The Man Himself. But here's a bit of evidence - note the long stride, the swinging left arm, and the flying coattails below:

(KathyF)It certainly appears to be one continuous shot. Why go to all the expense and bother of a body double when CF had to be in the shot, anyway? I'm with you - I don't know much (well, anything really) about the movie making process, but surely this would have all been one take - Stand there then turn around ?? Wouldn't make sense to have a double there.

From the gossip column in today's Daily Express: Bridget Jones fans will be disappointed. George Clooney ... has denied rumours that he is starring opposite another ex-flame, Renee Zellweger, in the sequel to Bridget Jones's Diary. At the post-premiere party of his film, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind ...George claimed to be baffled by reports he is to play the part of a lusted-over actor whom Bridget is sent to interview. "I am good friends with Renee and she hasn't mentioned it to me," says George. "Am I starring in it? Not to my knowledge."

says George. "Am I starring in it? Not to my knowledge." Ahhh....but starring in it and making a cameo or doing one little scene are two different things. A little doublespeak on his part, perhaps? How's *that* for rationalization?

George claimed to be baffled by reports he is to play the part of a lusted-over actor whom Bridget is sent to interview. "I am good friends with Renee and she hasn't mentioned it to me," Aaannnd...I would expect his agent or studio people to be talking to him, not her. ;-)

Maybe with all this talk of body doubles etc, all he (GC) will have to do is a voice over... My suggestion for interviewing the P&P2 Mr Darcy still stands.

(KathyF) It certainly appears to be one continuous shot. Why go to all the expense and bother of a body double when CF had to be in the shot, anyway? (AnneR) I don't know much (well, anything really) about the movie making process, but surely this would have all been one take - Stand there then turn around ?? Wouldn't make sense to have a double there. You'd both be surprised at how long it takes to do anything. Hours and hours to set up a single shot, shoot it, review it, redo it, again and again. And a single "take"?? Naw. Thanks for the news, Barbara, re George. Again, it could just be that it's not his place to talk about it. Lots of evasion and doublespeak IMO.

We've had "Colin-speak" and now we've got "George-speak"!!!!! I agree with Karen, (not that I have any expertise.) RE: The Snow Walk Surely that's part of what they *paid* for when they hired CF to play MD. The stride, the gait, the billow! I would vote for it being him.

Great comments ladies. Thanks for the very interesting information Ashling, Karen and Barbara. What wonderful pics as usual Rika and is proof enough for me. Heard on the radio this morning that RZ is now one of the highest paid actors in Hollywood earning $10 mill per picture. Good for her!! Wonder if she got that for EoR and if so would similar salaries apply to the male leads? I wonder.

Back to the body double bit for a moment...Happened across the CV for ODB's stunt double (as well as a CV for his hairdresser in what looks like at least 3 movies) that includes a small photo..He is the same height, and has a cleft...Well..look for yourselves..I have to believe that Rika's research at least proves it was him in crucial scenes... http://www.stuntnet.co.uk/action/Joss_Gower.htm

Oops, to clarify, Him meaning ODB...

(MariaT) He is the same height, and has a cleft...Well..look for yourselves..I have to believe that Rika's research at least proves it was him in crucial scenes... I also choose to believe the evidence provided by Rika. And furthermore, if I understand some of what differs between stunt doubles and body doubles, then this guy is only used going through the window. The hand on the staircase and the other parts, that we allow ourselves to believe could be someone other than ODB must be the bodydouble. Does anybody now, what he looks likes? (That is face forward, off course).

Quite right, Annette. The stunt double went through the window. The body double's parts were filmed for various shots in the movie. A stand-in does just that, he/she stands in for the actor while a shot is set up (lighting and camera put into place to everyone's satisfaction); truly boring work, but person is not not filmed even though will resemble actor to a significant degree (height, weight and color so that the lighting is done appropriately).

clearing throat and tapping wine glass with a silver dessert spoon Uh Hum... Single women in the UK, that stunt double was a pretty good looking fellow. At the very bottom of his website he lists his mobile number. (Why do I assume he would be single?)

Uh Hum... Single women in the UK, that stunt double was a pretty good looking fellow. At the very bottom of his website he lists his mobile number. (Why do I assume he would be single?) Ahem! A single woman in the US noticed that right off the bat and was thinking along those lines, too!

(Lisa and Dorine) Uh Hum... Single women in the UK, that stunt double was a pretty good looking fellow. At the very bottom of his website he lists his mobile number. (Why do I assume he would be single?) I am repeatedly telling myself: I am a happily married woman, I am a happily married woman........

Hmmm. So that's the guy who went through the window. (MariaT) He...has a cleft. But sadly, he's not showing the one I want to see... ;)

(Lisa and Dorine) Uh Hum... Single women in the UK, that stunt double was a pretty good looking fellow. At the very bottom of his website he lists his mobile number. (Why do I assume he would be single?) (Annette) I am repeatedly telling myself: I am a happily married woman, I am a happily married woman........ Poor fellow, I'm afraid if I called him it would very likely end up like the BJ/CF interview in Rome...I would have one agenda...all CF related. He would probably change his number after I was through with him...

If the cast is signed up for EOR, who is playing Rebecca? Still hoping for Liz Hurley. Think she would be perfect w/ CF, RZ and HG. Two women fighting over CF. Very good indeed. Don't know how HG will be worked in but he certainly can't hurt the movie.

No, but he can suck up screen time.

(Rika)No, but he can suck up screen time. Please, lets not go there.

(Rika)No, but he can suck up screen time The major concern I have with HG, is that his inclusion in the movie, makes for major changes in the storyline. - His role is pretty minor in the book. Let's hope ALL the scenes we're anticipating with ODB remain intact! (I'm lighting a candle for the two towel scenes).

(Janet)(I'm lighting a candle for the two towel scenes). I'm lighting candles for the two towel scenes AND, the kitchen scene. And for all the scenes that HF wrote making Mark Darcy a bit of a tiger in the bedroom. In TEoR, there are many references to Mark and Bridget shagging. I hope they keep them in.

The kitchen scene - ah, if only.... but I have to believe he's going to be wearing boxer shorts at the very least, and more likely PJ's.

What questions would like to ask of Colin's double from BJD? My friend will pass them on.

Can you ask if which scenes he was involved in (or is that too general)?....Or...Did he do the snow walk? Have we been "ding dong-ing" him or Colin?...and if it is him in the reindeer jumper, what is his cell phone number? ;-) And you may know this answer, has he doubled for ODB before? Which films? And is he scheduled to do TEoR??

What was his [double]role in the fight scene?

Another couple of questions....sorry Karen. I've been thinking about this (and never had the opportunity to ask a 'body double' anything before....) (1) Did he have to gain/lose weight to be a BD for ODB? (2) How did he prepare for it? Did he have to cut or grow his hair? Study tapes, go to the set and watch? ODB has an unusual gait, and I was just curious to know if he had to work on it or if it came natural to the BD. Thanks...sorry if these questions seem a bit stupid, but I am v. interested in what he did....

Whoo-Hoo! What an opportunity!!!What I really want to know I could only ask Renee :), but herewith other burning questions. Wouldn't want to be piggy. Don't expect answers to all. Please edit. 1) Were there any scenes w/Colin cut? I've heard the dustbin scene was filmed, any others? 2) Any bloopers to report? 3) Is Colin introverted or extroverted? 4) Does Colin improvise a lot or go by the script? Have heard he improvises. 5) How many takes on the last smooching scene?

Yeah any little tidbits and trivia that hormonal women would like to read will be fine! Actually, kind of as a recap of above, maybe he could say which scenes he knows he was in. Gee, what an opportunity, as I would expect, I'm tongue tied!

(Linda)And for all the scenes that HF wrote making Mark Darcy a bit of a tiger in the bedroom. In TEoR, there are many references to Mark and Bridget shagging. I hope they keep them in. I am pessimistic about this, as I fear the interference of a long red nail here . . .:-( Re: double questions--will this guy dish any good dirt on any of the 3 principles?;-)

(Mari)I am pessimistic about this, as I fear the interference of a long red nail here Well I am too, but heck we're not asking for the full axminster. We just want to see some action.(the operative word being, some) And as Rika said, maybe he can wear boxers or something. I'd vote for those grey ones from FP. Anyone got a pair of nail clippers?

I'll put together the questions and see how far we get. But you can see the double in another scene and you'll be kicking yourself for missing how closely he resembles (sort of) Colin. In the US, it is in the Deleted Scenes, the UK ending, the first bit with Daniel with a blonde at a bar. Look at the other guy standing at the bar, with the long sideburns. ;-) Not sure, how this features on the intl editions of the DVD, as that was the ending you saw in the cinemas.

And then again, with a cluster of people at the bar (face showing) during Daniel's last pickup of Claudia.

(Karen)And then again, with a cluster of people at the bar (face showing) during Daniel's last pickup of Claudia. I had promised myself, that I would take a break from posting, since I almost every time make myself look like a complet idiot. BUT I just have to say, after checking the bodydouble at the bar, that he (the double off course) leaves me absolut cold. No vibrations, nothing whatsoever. I can understand, that he can be used from his backside and from a distance, and the occasionally hand-job but I won't start kicking myself. Not for that particular reason anyway. btw I saw the guy, who used to post here (Mark, was it?) He looked very nice (in fact, I liked him even better, than ODB's double).

Today's local paper here has a cute article about a store in Huber Heights, a suburb of Dayton, that sells British items. I checked their web site and found many of the items from BJD, both the movie and the books. I've always wondered what Cadbury Milk Tray was. The web site has pictures. Article: http://enquirer.com/editions/2002/12/11/tem_food11lede.html Store site: http://www.wisechoiceuk.com/store.asp

Mary, thanks so much for that info! What a fun site! My DH -- a long time Dr. Who fan -- will have Jelly Babies stocking stuffers and I found a couple of other things as well for some hard-to-buy-for anglophiles. Thanks!

Thanks Mary! What a great site!! Found some things I hadn't seen in a very long time!

Interesting article posted at CFFW site about RZ, her weight and EOR.. http://www.icircle.com/html/DIET/Celeb_diet_and_fitness/ARTICLE/11920.html

The movie is going to START with the Thai jail thing? Huh? (Karen) But you can see the double in another scene and you'll be kicking yourself for missing how closely he resembles (sort of) Colin. Visual aid for the DVD-less: As someone else said, he does nothing for me.

(Rika)The movie is going to START with the Thai jail thing? Huh? Maybe it will be a flashback of some sort? I was hoping they would cut most of the Thai stuff altogether--and give us more towel time.

(Rika)The movie is going to START with the Thai jail thing? Huh? (lindak) Maybe it will be a flashback of some sort? Drat, double drat! I was hoping they would open the film just like the book...ODB in bed...being stared at by Bridget. "Hurrah, the wilderness years are over!" and all that!

You know I gotta read TEoR....... And, the sideburns Louisa....check them out. Did he grow them for the part and if so why????

(Lisa)You know I gotta read TEoR....... I just re-read it. The second time around was wonderful.

(Lisa) And, the sideburns Louisa....check them out. Did he grow them for the part and if so why???? LOL! You think the body double should rethink the length of his sideburns? Ooooohhhh and you MUST read TEoR! There are some great moments in that book (that will most likely never make it to the screenplay)!

(lindaK)I was hoping they would open the film just like the book...ODB in bed...being stared at by Bridget. "Hurrah, the wilderness years are over!" and all that! Maybe they'll end with it?

Thanks Mary and Maria for the interesting articles. Cadbury's is the best. Love their Easter Eggs. Brought back alot of memories from the 3 years I spent in England. Thanks. Can't blame RZ for not wanting to gain the weight, so am not surprised they are starting after prison release. Movie will be good no matter where they start. Can't wait.

(moon)Maybe they'll end with it? They more or less started and ended with it in the book. I'm not in the mood to give anything up!!!

(moon)Maybe they'll end with it? I hope they keep that in, such a cute scene. Actually, I want them to keep every scene in. I wouldn't mind a loooong movie for a change. Yeah, I know they like to keep the rom-coms short. Sheesh.

Lisa has just started a Bridget story on Fan Fic Topic 172 message 54. Not to be missed.

This whole weight issue is ridiculous. First off, she was NOT fat when she played Bridget the first time around. Being a thin, tall person, if I weighed 130lbs, I'd be happy!!!! Personally, Renee looks better voluptuous, and there is nothing wrong with that. I struggle to gain weight and keep it on. Hollywood (and others) emphasize way too much on weight and not on inner beauty of health. RZ doesn't look very healthy (imo). She needs to start eating bangers and mash w/ LOTS of gravy!!! (am getting hungry!)

(Laura) Hollywood (and others) emphasize way too much on weight and not on inner beauty of health. RZ doesn't look very healthy I agree 100%. I thought she was adorable in BJD. She is so pretty and I think looks a bit too gaunt right now. But then we don't know what the producers expect of the actors and she's obviously in great demand now so IMO doesn't have the time to be going up and down the scale. But I agree she doesn't look healthy, neither to alot of the other actors either. IMO

Possibly not the place for it, but glowing praise for the British items store Mary mentioned above...her posting just ran on Wednesday, I placed my order, received goods (reg shipping!) today after call yesterday from delightful owner who called to confirm order. Will be able to watch BJD with Milk Tray to go with chardonnay (as well as yummy whisky fudge!) Article: http://enquirer.com/editions/2002/12/11/tem_food11lede.html Store site: http://www.wisechoiceuk.com/store.asp

(Barb) but glowing praise for the British items store Mary mentioned above. But they don't have Arsenal mugs and key chains;-(((

(Evelyn) But they don't have Arsenal mugs and key chains;-((( Like this? Here's the link - unfortunately you'll probably see it split across two lines and so you may have to copy and paste it to a browser window for it to work. http://www.arsenal.com/sportsappcontroller.jsp?command=forwardOnly&nextPage=/shopping/superstore.jsp

Actually it wasn't split on my screen after all; it worked fine....

Thanks Rika...I've been giving Birthday prezzies from there for a loooong time;-) Actually went to the Arsenal gift shop. Nice neighborhood;-)

Thanks for the link, Rika. I may treat myself to some Christmas gifts.

From the "From the horse's mouth" department: At a Q&A with GC last night, he stated he has not been approached about TEoR, doesn't know why his name has been mentioned by Andrew Davies, among others. When it was mentioned that the part would be a small, but funny part, he said the size of the part (in any movie) doesn't matter if he likes it and wants to do it. Well now what?

Sock puppet with sideburns??

LOL Sock puppet with sideburns? Too bad Shari Lewis is gone. Maybe Lambchop had a brother. Sounds better to me than George Clooney. A little Cro-Magnan for my taste. I will duck now.

Maybe we're going to lose the interview all together??!! Yikes! Just when I had come to terms with GC doing it instead of ODB!

(Tress) Maybe we're going to lose the interview all together??!! Could be....it doesn't work unless it's a high-profile celebrity. A "no-name" bombs.

just found this on IMDb Renee Dreads Aussie Spread American Renee Zellweger is dreading a trip Down Under for the Australasian premiere of new film Chicago - because the last time she went there she ballooned in size. The Bridget Jones's Diary star admits she's a huge fan of the Australian lifestyle, and she let it go to her stomach. She says, "I was 17 and I went there for a long break and when my brother came to pick me up at the airport he didn't recognize me. His first words to me were, 'I guess the food was good!'" Meanwhile, the Texan actress has hit back at comments made recently by Sir Elton John that she's too thin. Renee insists a recent bout of food poisoning in Romania, where she has been filming Cold Mountain, made her look painfully thin, but now she's healthy again. She rants, "I can't control what people think and he's gonna say that and it's going to be read by however many millions of people and I can't meet all those people and explain the circumstances about my life. I've been running up and down mountains in Transylvania for six months, herding cattle and building fences and I ended up with really bad food poisoning because I was dumb enough to eat the chicken salad after it had been sitting out on the table for eight hours."

Now who can we sub for GC. Thanks for headsup Dorine, you lucky girl to see him in the flesh. How gorgeous is he? Could we recommend Pierce Brosnan? Now I think he would do, don't you? Thanks for article Laura. Very interesting. Seems RZ is very comfortable with the way she is, and that's all that matters IMO.

(Pam) How gorgeous is he? Very! ;-) Seems RZ is very comfortable with the way she is, and that's all that matters IMO. Not sure Karen Carpenter, among others would agree.

I think she looks too thin and I'm thinner and taller than she is. She looked perfect as Bridge. She looked great in Jerry Maguire and in that tear-jerker movie (where her mom has cancer, can't remember name of it).