First of all, thank you, Mari, I suppose you read what I wrote in amy's board. Now, let's start looking at it from Mrs. Reynolds point of view: first, Lizzy came as one of the usual visitors in Pemberly, and there was no reason to pay her much attetion, except, of course, the fact that she knows the master. But then, something strange happends! that contry girl is invited to dinner at Pemberly!!! and I dare say that she heard at least some of what happend that evewning in servants' gossiping, so I think she WILL be astonished (It's impossible not to be), but not as much as I first s pposed.

Yes, but then this topic will become sooo big that no one will post anymore. I like to think of The wedding night wonder how much Darcy would be struggling then. Okay bad choice, but it could be interesting. Laura

It's an interesting question, ----. I wanted to say something on the BB but we were told it couldn't handle that much. I mean, it's posssible Mrs. Reynolds would be angry and think Lizzy was being crafty by saying she knew the master only "A little." Maybe Mrs. Reynolds wouldn't trust anything Lizzy says after that. Maybe she'll think Lizzy was a spy for Mr. Darcy to find out what the servants said about him.

Perhaps not nonsensical, but related to Mrs Reynolds, is that her hiding behind Mr Bennet in the final scene when he says "So it would seem"? I've tried looking at it in slow motion but my tape quality isn't very good so it's all jumpy. If it's not Mrs Reynolds it's an extra who looks remarkably like her!

Would a housekeeper have been invited to the Master's wedding held at such a distance? OK, here's a real shocker from the depraved wilds of Hollywood -- I know there's been much speculation on Darcy's er. . .state prior to his marriage. But how about Lizzy's? I think we can all vouch for her purity, but. . .do you think she's ever been kissed before? Had any prior suitors ever (besides the odious Mr. C.)? Just askin'.

do you think she's ever been kissed before? No Had any prior suitors ever (besides the odious Mr. C.) No. Admirers certainly, but none that got to the stage of being suitors. I offer no evidence; just my own opinions

I agree with you, Anna. I suppose if Lizzy had ever had any other suitors in her past, Lydia and her mother would have mentioned it every unbearable second.

Re prior suitors for the Bennet daughters -- the only one we "hear" about is the one who fell in love w/ Jane when she was visiting at the Gardiners' house (when she was only fifteen). This information is given by Mrs B when she visits her sick daughter at Netherfield. I agree that any previous (serious) suitors of Lizzie would probably have been mentioned by Lydia at least!

Yes, I can't imagine Lydia or Mrs. B. holding their tongues in company on such a delightful subject! But has Lizzie never come into contact with anyone she considers "eligible" prior to D.? I take it she would not have gone into town often, due to finances...

Mrs. Reynolds and what she thinks: I always wondered if she was suspected young ladies of using the custom of 'opening up great houses to casual visitors' to throw themselves in Mr. Darcy's path? She might have thought Lizzy very sly.

Early suitors: Jane and Lizzy must have had early admirers. Every boy in their acquaintance must have had a crush on one or the other of them at some time! Perhaps a beau not in a position to marry does not count with Lydia and Mrs. Bennet? Did children play together? Would young men and women in the same neighborhood or with the same family connections know each other from having been together as children? And would they be allowed to continue to be friends or would a magic moment come when all friendships stopped and were re-organized according to adult standards? Charles Hayter and Henrietta Musgrove must have been childhood friends and then teenage sweethearts. I am thinking-out-loud here. Does anyone have an idea of how the transition from childhood to adulthood affected male-female relationships?

It is most likely the same as today except eighteenth century style. Most girls would think the boys are gross in childhood. Maybe some would be friends with the oppisite sex. I know I have had friends that were boys since first grade but then in fourth, fifth, and sixth grades they thought "You can't play with a girl!". But in seventh grade there was an outcast who was short and nice. He has been one of my best friends eversince.

I wonder if some of Charlotte's brothers were early admirers of Lizzy & Jane?

Charlotte's brothers were very young, no? I always had the impression that Charlotte was the oldest in the family, but maybe she was just the oldest girl.

She mentions that her brothers are afraid of her dying an old maid, but that's about it. You're probably right -- if they were of age, we would have seen them at all of the local gatherings, along with Charlotte.

In order to inject more nonsense into this topic, I propose the following questions, which I feel should initiate a new thread to rival the legendary ''daggy'' thread. We will start with a quote from CF himself; ''I thought to myself: 'This is where he wants to go across the room and punch someone. This is where he wants to kiss her. This is where he wants sex with her right now.' I'd imagine a man doing it all, and then not doing any of it. That's all I did.'' I MUST know, I SHALL know; which scene(s) was he thinking of where he 'wants sex with her right now'? I expect substantiating evidence, at the least. When we have exhausted this phrase (or it has exhausted us), we will move on to 'where he wants to kiss her' and 'where he wants to go across...' There you are... go to it!

the ballroom scene at Netherfield could provide the first and the last of the list...

After getting out of the bathtub, he walks to the window and sees her. Now what do you think he wanted at that moment??!!!!

Oh Mari, how good of you to think of us! This does, perhaps, more properly belong in the drooling topic, but I have no compunction about spreading drooling material all around the place and so shall dive on in! "This is where he wants sex with her right now." It is, of course, the famous LOOK scene at Pemberley. He is gazing at her with undisguised admiration, longing, and lust. You know that moment during THE LOOK when he has a slight smile playing about his lips? That is the moment when he wants sex with her right now. Well, there is my opinion on the matter, anyone else?

Mari, this cracks me up! But the daggy thread is impossible to rival---an immortal thread, and one I LOL just thinking about. Still, I admit that after reading that quote from CF, I can't help wondering which of the choices he is thinking at each point. The Look, for example... we know he doesn't want to go punch her... Jane

Hi Cheryl! You have of course, true to your wonderful reputation around here, have a more forceful opinion than I on this point! Bravo! Jane

Thanks Mari for opening this up for us! I've often wondered which scenes he was thinking of : I'm with Cheryl - obviously "the look" indicates he wants sex right now.;-) I also think he wants to take her into his arms and kiss her tears away while she's so upset about Jane's letter at the Inn. As for punching someone - I think the most obvious place is when he says "what" to Duckface.

oh dear, oh dear...please, please no one tell my mother about my "reputation" here! ;-)

Cheryl, I want you to know that I did indeed consider putting this query under drooling, but this topic seems to me to lend itself to the speculation that we do so well about the motives and feelings that are implied by the characters. Here, of course, we are taking it one step further, to the motives implied by the actor in his quest to become the character. I want to add my own speculation to the above... When Bingley and Darcy come to Longborne after Bingley and Jane's engagement, when he is asking ''Should we not go for a walk'', Darcy is giving Lizzy an look that absolutely penetrates! This is my favorite look of the entire production.

for punching, how about when Darcy is walking out of the Parsonage immediately after Lizzy has rejected his first proposal (I can't quite decide whether he wants to punch her, or himself...)

I've always felt that it was Mr. Collins whom Darcy wanted to punch at the Netherfield dinner. Mr. Collins goes over to Mr. Darcy to inform him of his aunt's health without having been properly introduced! Shocking! Darcy slowly rises, towering over the shrinking, sniveling Collins and says, so very quietly and menacingly, "And whom might you be?" Watch your back Mr. Collins!

I thought Mr Collins was too slimy for Darcy to want to punch him; Darcy wasn't wearing gloves at the time. Besides, Collins doesn't deserve that much attention.

I always thought so too! The way he slowly rises up, and looks literally down his nose at the still cowering Collins! Hilarious-o!

It is, of course, the famous LOOK scene at Pemberley. He is gazing at her with undisguised admiration, longing, and lust. I would beg to disagree with you here, Cheryl dear, I see this as the moment when Darcy's admiration and longing first moves beyond mere hormonal attraction and begins to acquire a richness and depth of emotion that had not been possible to develop during the time in which Lizzie herself was so actively unreceptive to his overtures. Now, besides being an object of longing and lust, she has also been very kind and attentive to his shy little sister and has become his ally in protecting her f om acute embarrassment, and he can actually begin to visualize her as a member of his own dear family circle. I think this is a moment win which he would wish to kiss her most tenderly and have a long and intimate discussion with her in which he would tell her in great detail what she has come to mean to him. [sigh]

] I think this is a moment win which he would wish to kiss her most tenderly and have a long and intimate discussion with her in which he would tell her in great detail what she has come to mean to him. [sigh] Yes, Joan. I am quite of this opinion. This looks a lot more like love than lust.

to me the 'look' just before the second proposal walk showed determination rather than lust

]This is where he wants to kiss her. More than once, I think! maybe pinkyring twisting is a cue? a) Rosings near piano, with half-smile playing on his lips; b) walking graceful-thighed up Pemberley steps, glancing shyly sideways and asking her to meet G.; c) any other soft-eyed CF moment. ]This is where he wants sex right now. a) when he's standing in the dance line, staring piercingly across at E.- (the first time I saw that look and the way the camera then focused on their hands meeting was electrifying to watch! b) when he's staring silently at her at Hunsford, before walking to her and the colonel, he looks like he's scamming her thoroughly (and even crossing his legs to keep himself under control!); just maybe c) the billiards room, subliminally; and d) the way he gulps/gapes at her at the pond scene looks like spontaneous kissy sex potential. (whoa! too much!)

Girls, he wants sex when he is fencing and says "I shall conquer this!". Oooo, baby, the way you thrust your foil..... I won't get anymore obscence

I think when he leans back in his chair, letter writing scene, he's extremely frustrated ("blue") with sexual tension (which probably had been with him since his unsuccessful proposal hours earlier). In fact, just look at his proposal entrance body language, eyes and sounds, then awkward speech- all the result of a rational man hopelessly desiring to have her "put an end to his suffering and agony" right then even but having to instead ask for marriage civilly. A Wickham would have just grabbed er, since nobody else was home except a servant or two.

Maybe after a surprise assessment in the billiard room (sublimanily), surely when he is fixing her intently (his eyes definitely moving from top and then lowering below) after her "not knowing any" reply.

Ann, I think what he wanted upon getting out of the bath was a nice Turkish towel (not!). I agree with daggy Cheryl -- THE LOOK has got to be the main point where he wants sex with her right then. Ditto when he's scowling at her from the corner at the Netherfield Ball. As far as punching -- how about when dear Caroline is criticizing his Lizzy at Pemberley, even down to her teeth? KAPOW!

All this talk about the legendary daggy thread is very frustrating to those of us who never saw the old Board. The more I hear about it the more I pant. Is it archived somewhere?

legendary daggy thread... Is it archived somewhere? ___ I don't know if anyone has ever pulled out the daggy entries specifically. A nice job for somebody, though. Ann (Milwaukee Ann). Anna -- man, this gets confusing, keeps the archives. aprice@mail.newcastle.edu.au

Amy...I believe that the "ledgendary daggy thread" is well worth digging up and given a permanate home here at Spring! Besides, it is rude to speak of a "private joke" in front of those not "in the know!"

And maybe put it in a very special room where we can indulge fully :)

I think that I have the "daggy" thread. I followed each thread and came up with about 5; many had duplicate posts, of course. Unfortunately, I cannot locate those right now. I have located each separate response, though. I will try to e-mail what I have to Amy, ASAP, but probably not today. Linda

You know, we have spoken of the "legendary daggy thread" so much that I am afraid that new comers will be disappointed when they finally see it! Things are always much more amusing in our memory than they are in real life...although this may be an exception! :-)

Cheryl -- As one of the original participants of the "Daggy" Thread, I agree with you. I believe that this was the first time that we let our hair down and finally said some things about our Mr. Darcy which everyone only had the nerve to think about quietly to themselves beforehand. I am proud to say that everyone hence have pulled out all the stops and have proceeded to a much Daggier level. The first thread may now seem a bit tame -- but oh, how fun it was!

And now for ''This is where he wants to kiss her.'' What about the scene where he brings Georgiana to the Lambton Inn to introduce her to Lizzy. The look he gives her when she first enters the room, as well as the soft, fond look, with the head tilted ever so slightly and wistfully to the side, when he says ''Miss Bennett, my sister has a request to make of you.'' Plainly what he means to say is 'Miss Bennet, my dearest, lovliest Elizabeth, would you like to step behind a tree in the middle of this field of buttercups and allow me to explore your lips, e , I mean your apparent change of feelings since our last meeting?'

Mari: "This is where he wants to kiss her." Oh Mari, I don't know that we can narrow this down to one scene...I think there were many times that Darcy wanted to kiss her. But I'll try to confine myself to one moment (besides The Look, which is too easy!) How about when he is helping her into her carriage after the accidental meeting at Pemberley? He almost won't let go of her hand, it's as if he wanted to pull her back out of the carriage and hold her and kiss her and never let her leave "his beautiful grounds" again! *sigh*

Speaking of the Lambton Inn, why wasn't Bingley allowed to wait with the rest of the party?

The musical parody suggests he was in a closet. See ... well shoot I can't connect to it this morning. But It is also linked from my Links page: http://www.bluemarble.net/~amyloo/wwwboard/links.html If you want to get back to it.

why wasn't Bingley allowed to wait with the rest of the party? it doesn't happen quite that way in the book (Lizzy is at the inn when the Pemberly party arrives, and Bingley follows close behind the Darcys), so I suspect it was just because it was thought that it would 'play' better if he wasn't there at the beginning.

why wasn't Bingley allowed to wait with the rest of the party? I suspect it was just because it was thought that it would 'play' better if he wasn't there at the beginning. I suppose that technically he had not been included in the "invitation" - Darcy had asked permission to bring his sister to call, but not any of the Bingleys. It's clear though that there was no serious thought of his being turned away - just playing by the proper rules of ettiquette.

Another Want To Punch -- when D. spots Wickham talking to Lizzy that first time in Meryton. To the moon!!

Joan too, you're probably right as to why Bingley wasn't waiting for Lizzy in the sitting room at the Inn - but I've always thought that he was in the "Pub" part of the Inn for a quick pint!;-)

amy2, you stole what I meant to say!

Re: 93:41--"I think that I have the 'daggy thread'....I will try to e-mail what I have to Amy but not today" [1/4] As yet another "not in the know" I was wondering whether there was any progress on this front. Just thought I'd get a word in before what seems like a giant reorganizing project set for Friday. BTW, Fri. at 1:00 is bad for me, but could help some other time.

Thanks Maud. I did get communication about the Daggy thread -- at least 20 posts have been saved by Linda. I think there may be more, but her files will give me a better clue as to where to look in the archives. I just haven't gotten back to her about it. On the list though, sorry.

Inko wrote: -"why Bingley wasn't waiting for Lizzy in the sitting room at the Inn - but I've always thought that he was in the "Pub" part of the Inn for a quick pint!;-) " LOL - how well it fit's with his character Inko ! Now for one 'wanting to kiss her' moment: After their animated debate on tendencys to evil at Netherfield, Lizzy comments on his propensity to hate everybody (Darcy to himself: Not you my sweet lady...)Replies with a smile "and yours is wilfully to misunderstand them". And then you can see he would love to *do* something, much to his own surprise maybe)and Austen says that after a few moments' recollection Darcy welcomed the pianomusic(chap 11,end)as he began to feel the danger... As for sex wanted I consider the first moment to be at Neth.Ball when he has been haughtily taking a turn about the dancers and stops to watch Lizzy's pleasing body and dark curls dancing. He looks as if he can barely control his face and certainly not his thoughts... So he asks her to dance with him.

Joan too, you're probably right as to why Bingley wasn't waiting for Lizzy in the sitting room at the Inn - but I've always thought that he was in the "Pub" part of the Inn for a quick pint!;-) love it!!!! Saw our dear Mr. Bingley playing Charles without money or position on a re-run of the Highlanders yesterday. Humble, self-effacing, currying favor. Very sad sight indeed! No wonder he needed the pint.

"...at Neth.Ball when he has been haughtily taking a turn about the dancers and stops to watch Lizzy's pleasing body and dark curls dancing. He looks as if he can barely control his face and certainly not his thoughts... " I have GOT to rewatch that ball. I always feel so miserable anticipating what is in store for Lizzy at the end that I miss the lovely beginning!

Ann2 -- right on, sister! Darcy's dark scowling at the Neth Ball as he scopes out Lizzy from behind the sevants is a _sizzler._ Please also note, ladies, the penetrating look he gives her after Mrs. Bennet & c. have arrived at Netherfield to check on Jane. Smokin'!

Keep on drooling, Girls! I have always thought the first "I want her NOW" moment was, like Ann2 points out, when they are bantering in the Netherfield drawingroom on the tendencys of evil. Consider that before that point, 1) he has not been able to keep his eyes off of her, 2)he has asked her to dance twice (the second time in the book, in a round about way - the Scottish Reel), and she has blown him off three times (both dances and the billiard room in the film), 3)he still cannot take his eyes off of her, 4) the stands naked and watches her from the bathroom in the film, and then right before the bantering, 5) he closes his book (which Caroline could not induce him to do) and admires her figure (ie, hot bod) walk around the room. (In the film he has the slightest little smile). Now here is a guy ready to explode! It even goes that he was ready to punch someone at that moment (after the debate in the film he is pretty up-tight) because it is still the last thing he wants to feel for her. As Ann2 points out above, he was glad for the diversion of music ( so he could cool off), and in the book, he avoided her after that, even sitting in a room a half-hour alone with her with out saying a word to her. He was glad to see her go. Then at the ball, it just started up all over again. -----

I believe he only spoke "ten words to her the whole day" of her departure from Netherfield so she wouldn't think she could "influence his felicity" in any way. I think it just made her glad to get the hell out of there!

She sure was glad! It was her idea to get the h*** outta there. She was "positively resolved". But "To Mr. Darcy it was welcome intelligence - Elizabeth had been at Netherfield long enough. She attracted him more than he liked-...Steady to his purpose, he scarcely spoke ten words to her though the whole of Saturday, and though they were at one time by themselved for hald- an-hour, he adhered most conscientiously to his book, and would not even look at her." Sounds to me like he is trying a little too hard.

]he is trying a little too hard. tee hee! This rich, powerful, aristocratic man is trembling before a country girl without family, connection or fortune!

It is what makes him so adorable! Can you imagine his heart pounding and his palms sweating?

And all that resolve for nothing!

//tee hee! This rich, powerful, aristocratic man is trembling before a country girl without family, connection or fortune! // LOL at your picture and way of summarizing, Anna! //can you imagine his heart pounding and his palms sweating?// Yes Sharon I shall love to do that! Almost lost the grip on his book I'm sure. And certainly had no idea what he was reading...Such flutterings...!

Ann R: How about this. Remember in the book first became an 'object of some interest' in his eyes and wanted to get to know her? He stalked her all over the party! "..as a step towards conversing with her himself, attended to her conversations with others." He was afraid to talk to her! If it was embarassing for him when he was first interested in her, just imagine how he felt when he was in love.

How he felt before he even knew he was in love, is another interesting subject, Sharon. That evening in the Neth drawing room when Jane was recovered and was conversing with Bingley, Mr Hurst was asleep and his wife occupied in playing with her jewellery ; Mr Darcy did hide from both Caroline and Lizzy behind his book. Elizabeth, at work(?) in the opposite corner...when at last miss Bingley manages to get Lizzy to walk with her, //Mr Darcy looked up. He was as much awake to the novelty of attention in that quarter as Elizabeth herself could be, and unconsciously closed his book.// The sentence boldmarked puzzles me, though it has been discussed earlier. Will someone please enlighten me! I love the way he can't pretend being involved in reading anymore as soon as 'Lizzy is on stage'.

Mr Darcy looked up. He was as much awake to the novelty of attention in that quarter as Elizabeth herself could be, and unconsciously closed his book Ann2, I could be wrong, but I always thought it meant: Darcy was no less surprised than Lizzy was to see Caroline behaving so strangely -- inviting Lizzy to walk with her? She who is obviously no friend of Lizzy's. It must be some kind of trick.

The fact that something new and unusual was happening other then Jane and Bingley and Mr. and Mrs Hurst. As for Elizabeth the idea that Miss Bingely would have her walk with her was unusual.

Ann R: I am of similar mind as Amy - what INITIALLY got his attention was that Caloline's civility to Elizabith. But Caroline KNEW that Elizabeth could excite HIS attention. Yes, he was not indifferent at all, and unconsciuosly, was probably well on the way to being head over heels in love with her. It is very shortly after that, at the end of that evening, that he begins to be CONSCIOUSLY aware of the 'danger' he was in. (It is okay with ME if we rehash somethings! I have been reading the book off and on for twenty years and I always come away with a new idea from it.)

okay with ME if we rehash somethings!// That's great Sharon. And thanks to Amy, Donna and You for help in interpret. Must admit that I had rather hoped it meant something more complex and romantic. Silly-me. Well then Lizzy at work not needlework? Does it just mean occupied...?

'Must admit that I had rather hoped it meant something more complex and romantic.' That Lizzy it was Lizzy that could induce him from his 'inflexily studious' reading of his book after Caroline had been so unsuccessful at it is complex and romantic enough for me. 'Well then Lizzy at work not needlework? Does it just mean occupied...?' That is as good of a guess as I could come up with.

Going back a little ways on this one. Joan, too in #29: I AW that The Look is a lot more about love than lust. For me, it clearly showed a deepening of his feelings, although it did also convey that he had to have her in his life. (Your explanation is much better.) Becks in #33: Yes, yes, the fencing scene. If that wasn't a man trying to work off raging sexual tension, then I haven't seen one. Amy2 in #51: I also thought the main reason Darcy rode away when he encountered Wickham and Lizzy talking with the others was that he was going to jump off his horse and pulverize him if he didn't leave posthaste.

OK, here is another snippit from the Sunday Telegraph interview with CF (the other is in the Drooling topic). I thought, considering this topic's history, that it more properly belonged here. It is sort of an elaboration of something discussed a few weeks ago.'On Pride and Prejudice, Andrew Davies took it on himself to help me by giving some rather audacious stage directions. During one scene, he suggested that Darcy probably had an erection. During another, when Darcy's looking ver disapproving, he wrote, "Darcy looks as if someone's farted." They're crude examples, but he has a point. Darcy's an animal really.'Okay, go to it guys!

ROTFLOL!!!!! Great find, Anne! "Darcy looks as if someone's farted."...... When Mr. Collins came up and introduced himself during supper at the Netherfield Ball. "Darcy probably had an erection.'......... Well, he was sitting with his cross-legged with a book over it in the parlor at Netherfield, during his banter with Lizzy about vanity. But for sure when he was watching her from the bathroom..SCHWING!

Another ROTFLOL Anne3. I'm with Sharon - the fart when he gets up from the table at Netherfield and looks down his nose at Collins - "What is this smell down there?" And the erection - I vote for the bathroom scene watching Lizzie definitely!;-) I love AD's sense of humour!

Couldn't agree more, although I think he pretty much had a hard time of it when- ever he was with Lizzie or thinking of her!

]Darcy looks as if someone farted. . . This has to be when he sees Wickham in Meryton, chatting to Lizzie! ]...has an erection... Perhaps when they're dancing together at the Netherfield ball? He does have a pained look about him!

Unbelievable, Lots Lots of Laughs

This is really...no not too much ..but very funny. For one further fart suggestion: When he has just entered the assembly room at Meryton and realises the kind of people and goings on that he is expected to be part of. And for that hard object : I must once again draw your attention to his expression, when he has taken a turn to watch the dancers at Netherfield Ball and ends up, eyes following Lizzy. He is in anguish and decides that he shall askher to dance with him at least... at the very least ;-) ! //Schwing !// Sharon LOL.

Ladies! I am shocked! Shocked and grieved...that you have been discussing this without me! ROTFLOL!! Ok, I'll give it a go...the farting scene--this is so obvious I cannot believe none of you have said it! It is when he first emerges from the carriage for the Meryton assembly ball! Caroline sidles/slithers up to him and says, "Shall we be quite safe here Mr. Darcy?" Erection...so many options, so many...I'll go for when he is listening to Lizzy sing at Pemberley...he gets this little secret smile on his face...his hands are folded in his lap...need I say more? ;-)

] Erection...so many options, so many...I'll go for when he is listening to Lizzy sing at Pemberley...he gets this little secret smile on his face...his hands are folded in his lap...need I say more? ;-) __ Really, Cheryl? I hate to be so Pollyannaish, but I almost hope his feelings were more chaste at that moment.

At last! I now know the reason he has to go face away from the general company and gaze out of windows so often!

Must not pretend to be more experienced than I am, but I too think that Pemberley music smile and the later return to that room for sweet remembrance are both caused by more serene feelings. Sorry to disappoint you Cheryl dear. You know though,that most of the time I will follow wherever you lead(Vain, ignorant, idle and absolutely uncontroulled[Austen spelling, not Swedish this time]) BTW,what think you of that occasion when Mr Collins complained screamingly to his wife...'he's hard upon my heels!'?

Ann2: BTW,what think you of that occasion when Mr Collins complained screamingly to his wife...'he's hard upon my heels!'? Ann, Ann, Ann!!! and people say that I am bad! Shocking! ;-) Well, ok...seems I need to find another erection scene...it is no hard task, I assure you...;-) Ok...my choice then is when he is visiting Lizzy at Hunsford with the Col. He is sitting, ignoring Mr. Collins, staring at Lizzy, fairly squirming in his seat, tugging at his collar...the only problem with this is that he soons stands up and he would never dare to do so if he were really...well...you know... ;-)

I have to agree with my Patroness, 'The Look' does seem to include a little schwing included. Notice how he seems to be trying keep from smiling. I don't deny that there are some very tender emotions, there. But there could very well be a little happy, tingley action goin' on.

Sharon dearest...ROTFLOL!!! (you naughty girl you!)

#84 Mari, now we know what was so inviting about those windows, huh? Love that explanation. I still think the most likely place for a schwing was when Lizzy was playing at Lady C's and flirting with Darcy. Did you notice how he kept his front up against the pianoforte? Sometimes the men probably wished their coattails were in the front!

' when Lizzy was playing at Lady C's and flirting with Darcy. ' Any attention he could get from her probably got him going!

Another possibility for the hard choice: when Lizzie enters the dining room at Netherfield and Darcy is hanging on to the chair-back! He'd earlier seen her all muddy from her walk, with eyes brightened by the exercise--now he saw her a little tidied up - poor guy just can't help himself!! No wonder he looked at Mr. Hurst with disgust when he interrupted with his talk of "sport today."

Good one, Inko!

Then of course there is the famous pond scene. I mean, here he is, nicely cooled off and probably "minimized" by the bracing cold water, when lo and behold, Miss Breathless Bennet veers into view and Darcy probably can't help coming to attention, something I think she noticed since her gaze instantly plummeted as his incoherent babble commenced...no wonder the poor man had to rush away and change in private (I can hear Robin Williams now "Down, boy! I have no controls...!") (another startling segment of the "Dr. France" call-in show, this time sponsered by e.p.t.)

If engagements generally lasted 2-3 months, then on his ride to Pemberley, Darcy must have been thinking: "If only I had not made an ass of myself, I might be bringing her here now!" Certainly he was thinking of her on that ride!

...coming to attention...Down, boy... I love it! Surely it must have been quite a shock to him, and yes, he had to be thinking of all the time he had inadvertently wasted.

Come on girls, did anyone look down during the wedding scene? My best friend noticed something very interesting........ He was eager in anticipation of the night before him!!!

France: I mean, here he is, nicely cooled off and probably "minimized" by the bracing cold water Are we speaking of "shrinkage" here? ;-)

Oh, I feel so sorry for guys. Imagine not being able to keep your arousal a secret.

Amy: Oh, I feel so sorry for guys. Imagine not being able to keep your arousal a secret. Like, we are doing such a good job of hiding our arousal! ;-)

Ladies! What about when he's sitting cross-legged at Hunsford looking at Lizzy flirting with Fitzwilliam? And what about all that heat during the first Proposal scene? NO WONDER the poor man had to stalk around the room!!