this is my last attempt, if this doesn't work, PLEASE HELP crossing my fingers...

Yura, you may stop now. The italics have been closed.

Thanks Karen, sorry about that.... feeling very embarassed.. :-(

(yura)We've had to cancel our tuesday night firth night last week an.... You are lucky to have some friends, who shares this "little fling" with you. Here's an example, what I have to put up with. A colleague of mine loved both P&P and BJD, so I suggested, that she borrowed MLSF (I had just bought it and loved it). When she returned it, I asked what she thought of it. The answer: Try seing, where I stopped the tape. I didn't bother to finish it. All my hopes for a fellow ODB-fan where chrushed. So, think of all of your "friends in spirit", when you have to watch alone. That'll do you!

(Annette) On the MSNwebsite, there was a listing for Apartment Zero on DVD. The link was to Amazon, but I couldn't find anything. I know, that even if it is there, it will probably be american region, but I still hope for that multiplayer eventually. So is it out on DVD???? I've had basically the same experience - have seen references to it being available on DVD, but when I've gone to sites to look for it, haven't seen it offered. If anybody knows anything else, I'd love to hear it. I just re-watched it recently. It's a very strange and creepy movie, but my main reaction is to be blown away by Colin's work in this film. And it's especially fascinating to watch the Jack/Adrian dynamic - lots of chemistry, and so much subtext!

AZ is an excellent film. Have you read our discussion?

I haven't yet read your discussion of AZ. As new to the board I still have lot of ground to get covered, so I started with the ones on the buckets main page. I have stumbled across others, surfing the older topics, but if anyone has a "directory" that tells a little of which topics and responses the discussions start, I would be very grateful. As to the DVD, another firthweb-site also have a listing (without link), that AZ is released on DVD. Has anyone asked there for information? Same site states, that LE is out on both regions, which I'm sorry doesn't seem to be right. So - perhaps it is all just wishful thinking?

The AZ discussion has not been edited or put up on The Bucket. You would have to read it in its raw form on Topic 98; it starts here: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/98.1763 I've always felt that if you have a question about something posted at another site, it is best to ask a person associated with that site. Galls me when people question items posted at Drool or The Bucket and don't bother to email me for clarification if they don't understand. Looks like the blind leading the blind (no offense meant to vision-impaired persons). I go to the source, but that's just my way of doing things.

(Annette) On the MSNwebsite, there was a listing for Apartment Zero on DVD. The link was to Amazon, but I couldn't find anything. I know, that even if it is there, it will probably be american region, but I still hope for that multiplayer eventually. So is it out on DVD???? There is a listing for AZ on DVD at Ebay today...Is it for real? Non so...

Sounds to me like one of those import jobs, like the earlier Valmont DVD, which someone here purchased (MeredithP??). She said that was of poor quality. Eventually the real one was issued, but that would not necessarily be the case on AZ.

(Karen). I go to the source, but that's just my way of doing things That's normally also my way of approaching subjects. I was actually thinking of doing just that, but I thought being very new and unexperienced that someone in "this crowd" had already made the enquiry. So not to bother about the same subject and perhaps provide other newbies with informations, I chose to ask here first.

(MariaT) There is a listing for AZ on DVD at Ebay today...Is it for real? Non so... Two listings! I'm bidding on one...we'll see if I actually get it. One out of Washington and another out of Utah. Both have the same case...hmmm. I had actually seen one the other day and didn't bid, but now I'm curious (with two on ebay). I'm sure it is a copy and not an original, but it appears that someone is 'mass producing'.

(Karen)The AZ discussion has not been edited or put up on The Bucket. Sorry Karen, making explanations as to my "behaviour" I forgot to thank you for the link - so here it is. T H A N K Y O U!

Here it is at Barnes & Noble, but that is also where the "fake" Valmont was too: http://video.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?userid=527ZOVBBS9&EAN=96009047597 I can't remember if Meredith said her Valmont had chinese characters. ;-) BTW, I answer all my inquiries at The Bucket, unless the person is extremely rude and pushy. ;-)

Thanks Karen! from me too, for the link to the AZ discussion. I was wondering whether there were any AZ or early film discussions. I am having my own little CF 80's film festival, and have seen AC, AZ, Valmont & finishing on LE. What a treat it is. My fav has to be Richard, for being such a dear sweet(but naughty) boy, but the character where i find Colin's performance most impressive is Adrian. Like Rika, I find the film strange & creepy, but Colin's performance is really something else, and I find myself really sympathizing with his character. I remember a pic that was used to great effect for Lisa's UMS which featured Colin/Adrian 's eye and half hidden face, and was wondering where this pic came from. Now I finally know. Wish I could have seen this shot on the big screen. Judd and Valmont are great too, esp Valmont where CF is so fresh face gorgeous (I think V looks more beautiful than all the other ladies in the film). Now I must go hunt for more of his works done around this time. Not too impossible for me, I hope (in vain, i know).

(Andie)My fav has to be Richard LE/Richard is one of my favorites. He is so gorgeous and sweet in this. And loads of screen time as well. Not to mention the rest of the cast doing an excellent job. You just put me in the mood to watch this one again. But I really can't spare the time, but for Richard I'd do anything.*sigh*

(Andie) esp Valmont where CF is so fresh face gorgeous (I think V looks more beautiful than all the other ladies in the film). Agreed. I'd actually use that word ("Beautiful") to describe his appearance in a lot of his older films. Mind you, I think he's better looking today. (Karen) I've always felt that if you have a question about something posted at another site, it is best to ask a person associated with that site. What was odd about the AZ DVD situation was that I saw reference to its availability on a commercial web site, not a CF fan site. I don't remember where anymore (probably someplace like Moviefone). Yet when I tried to follow up and find the actual product on Amazon - even following the 'purchase' link offered by the site that said it was available - all that came up was the VHS version. I didn't pursue it - just figured the release date was probably wrong - and I totally forgot about it till Annette raised the question.

(Tress)Two listings! I'm bidding on one...we'll see if I actually get it I hope, you will let us know the quality, if you get it. I had planned for only Christmaspreparations this evening. Just zapped the tv-programmes a little before I got started. Here's what drove me to drool: Short clip from BJD showing only HG and RZ Video shown from Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves with Bryan Adams (and MEM) Video shown with LA's: There she goes Lettermann talking about Ryan Adams and coffee (and later about "stirring" and "lusty ladies") That was all the references I needed to go straight here and catch up. I know, really silly posting.

(Annette) I hope, you will let us know the quality, if you get it. Okay, Annette, I just got it...I'll let you know what it looks like since it appears that Barnes and Noble is selling copies as well. (Karen) I can't remember if Meredith said her Valmont had chinese characters. ;-) LOL...I'm not holding my breath. But a girl can dream (at least for 3-7 days until it arrives). Thanks for the AZ discussion link. Looking forward to reading it. BTW, just finished my first viewing of Nostromo and ODB shows some fairly obvious leftist tendencies...;-D

(Tress)BTW, just finished my first viewing of Nostromo and ODB shows some fairly obvious leftist tendencies...;- You just had to say that didn't you? I'm here trying to be good, Santa coming and all that... But, I just have to jump in and say, as far as Nostromo, yes, the left seems to dominate. And thanks for the AZ news. I'll be anxious to hear about the quality, too.

(lindak) You just had to say that didn't you? I'm here trying to be good, Santa coming and all that... LOL...yeah!! I know how to summon the Googie Goddess! BTW, we'll probably both get lumps of coal in our stockings for all the naughty thoughts brought on by ODB in 'that scene' in Nostromo! Made watching the movie worth it! 6 hours of plot for 30 seconds of... ;-)

(Tress)BTW, we'll probably both get lumps of coal in our stockings for all the naughty thoughts brought on by ODB in 'that scene' in Nostromo! I guess you can count me too, since I kinda draw your attention in that direction (that is Nostromo, not the umentionable....;-)) Another btw, I bumbed into Santa from the main page, and he left me with a little greeting. I left it on the help-topic (response 979 and 980). Enjoy! (Perhaps I only dreamt, that I bumbed into him, but then again, it is the season for dreams coming true....)

Ladies, what to an "IBM" Companion for the holiday? If you are handsome enough to tempt me, I'm all yours. Happy Holidays!

Woops, I meant "what to buy an "IBM" Companion for the holiday?"

Another woops, I meant "want to buy an "IBM" Companion for the holiday?" I really should post more often :-(

(Annie) I really should post more often :-( Please do! Especially if you are going to bring such a welcome 'guest'! LOL....IBM, indeed!

(Andie)My fav has to be Richard, for being such a dear sweet(but naughty) boy, but the character where i find Colin's performance most impressive is Adrian. I agree with you Andie, Richard is my favorite too, but one of his greatest performances IMO is Adrian, hands down. (Andie) esp Valmont where CF is so fresh face gorgeous (I think V looks more beautiful than all the other ladies in the film). LOL. I was thinking this last night when I watched Valmont. He is more beautiful and glamorous than the ladies in the film. Thanks for the lovely pic Annie.

(Andie)My fav has to be Richard, for being such a dear sweet(but naughty) boy, but the character where i find Colin's performance most impressive is Adrian. (Pam)I agree with you Andie, Richard is my favorite too, but one of his greatest performances IMO is Adrian, hands down. Wow...all you new folks on the block sure have all the new DVDs. How much does Lost Empires cost?If only the boss had quit asking for $$$$ I would have bought mine. Now I have to wait..:-((( *busily cutting coupons*

I just recieved a care package from America where I have an assortment of CF films to add to my small collection. I got Valmont, Hostage, Conspiracy, HOTP, and everyone's fav...Londinium! So far I have viewed Valmont and HOTP so I can now comment on these 2. Right from the beginning of Valmont I was hooked. I agree, CF is a vision, AFG, his clothes, his deportment!, his speech. It is all there. But the cast in the film was superb. I forgot to make dinner I was so engrossed in it. I continually tried to compare it to DL but it has been so long since I saw it. And I kept trying to remember JM so I could compare his performance to CF's. One thing I can say is it was dark vs. light...with Valmont giving a light and breezy feel despite the darkness of the storyline. There was one actor that I felt was a strange casting choice, and the performance bugged me throughout the film. I found the actor somewhat unbelievable in the part, not the least by the physical appearance. Do you know who I mean?

(Lisa) Do you know who I mean? It's the end of a looooong day for me, so you might want to spell it out :) How lucky you are to get such a gift! Agreed, he's AFG in Valmont; check him out in Conspiracy--yummy 1930's (?) clothes, but oh, the things his character says! Very disturbing. An excellent performance by CF (he was nommed for an Emmy) and the whole cast as well. Enjoy your film festival!

(Annie)I meant "want to buy an "IBM" Companion for the holiday?" Oh, yeah. I'd pay extra for our IBM. (Tress)BTW, we'll probably both get lumps of coal in our stockings for all the naughty thoughts brought on by ODB in 'that scene' in Nostromo! LOL, my stocking isn't big enough, Santa is bringing me an entire coal mine. I've been v. naughty:-)

(Lisa) There was one actor that I felt was a strange casting choice, and the performance bugged me throughout the film. Okay, my guess is Jeffrey Jones. Ferris Bueller's principal...he was also in that 'other' Forman film as Emperor Joseph II. I thought he was an odd choice for both films. I thought that Henry Thomas was an odd choice as well (not the strongest actor IMO, but oh-so-much better than Keanu in the same role). I love ODB as Valmont. It is fun to compare it to DL (I do believe that both have their pros and cons), John Malkovich was 'over the top' evil and not at all the dish that ODB was...I liked ODB's performance much better! And I agree with moonstar regarding Conspiracy! A stand out performance by ODB and the rest of the cast. Beautifully acted. I can offer nothing but condolences regarding L'dum (but you really MUST read the discussion if you haven't already. It made viewing the movie well worth it). Another good one is Hostages. One of my favorites (and you get CF skin as an extra bonus)! Lucky girl to have so many 'new' movies to watch!! Have fun (but don't forget about us....some of us are quite anxious regarding a certain chapter (BTW thank for the teaser)).

LOL Annie, RE: IBM I can see why you could get a little flustered posting that! (Valmont) Do you know who I mean ? Lisa, Would that be Annette Benning that seems to be miscast? Her voice is way overcoached and artificial sounding(which we could infer by Forman's interview of repeated micromanaged takes), but her appearance is very French. N'est-ce Pas? Isn't he divine in all that powder blue? Oh swoon! It was just on AMC recently, couldn't help sneaking a peak. And that smooch at the end w/Annette after Meg rejects him. Very intense eye contact there.

(lindak) LOL, my stocking isn't big enough, Santa is bringing me an entire coal mine. Oh, now! Don't think like that! Be positive. Santa should bring you a whole silver mine (and maybe he'll wear a wet shirt for you and give you a little tour)!!! ;-D

(Lisa) There was one actor that I felt was a strange casting choice, and the performance bugged me throughout the film. I found the actor somewhat unbelievable in the part, not the least by the physical appearance. Do you know who I mean? (Tress) Okay, my guess is Jeffrey Jones. Ferris Bueller's principal...he was also in that 'other' Forman film as Emperor Joseph II. I thought he was an odd choice for both films. I thought that Henry Thomas was an odd choice as well (not the strongest actor IMO, but oh-so-much better than Keanu in the same role) I'd vote for Jeffrey Jones being the culprit. He was my first thought. HT was rather a strange choice, too, but he didn't bother me. I liked AB, and didn't mind her voice although many have complained about it.

(Valmont) Do you know who I mean ? (Lisa), Would that be Annette Benning that seems to be miscast? Colin would not agree, but I thought Meg T was the miscast. I found her truly annoying, and not handsome enough to tempt him. ;-) Annette B played it very well. Subtle evil, jealous, flirty, as Kathleen said, very French. Geoffrey is one of my fav. He was brilliant in TEP.

I know who else was miscast in Valmont. The servant at Valmont's aunt's house. The tall sort of spooky looking guy (as they eat breakfast the morning after). Have seen him before don't know his name.

(Moon)I thought Meg T was the miscast. I found her truly annoying, and not handsome enough to tempt him. ;-) Absolutely agree. And in that faux french accent kept screeching: "Valmon"..."Valmon". In his bio Milos Forman said he promised MT that he would cast her in his next pic(V.) after she fell on location and had to drop out of Amadeus.

he promised MT that he would cast her in his next pic(V.) after she fell on location and had to drop out of Amadeus. She would have been miscast there too. I assume this was the Frau Mozart role.

(kathleen) The tall sort of spooky looking guy (as they eat breakfast the morning after). Have seen him before don't know his name. I wasn't going to rest until I figured out his name...Vincent Schiavelli. He was also in Amadeus. While looking that up, I stumbled on something else I thought was interesting (and many of you probably already know this...but it completely escaped me until about 5 minutes ago). Ian McNeice, who played Azolan in Valmont (Valmont's valet) also played Kopfler in Conspiracy! He's put on a few pounds. Had no idea that they were the same man...but now I don't see how I could have missed it. (Moon) I thought Meg T was the miscast. I agree with this as well. When Lisa said actor, I automatically thought of the men. But as far as the actresses go, MT was miscast IMO. She was very plain in the role (it was as if no one in the hair or make-up department got to her). I always see her as Chloe in The Big Chill (and I know that I shouldn't, but I can't help myself). I think I read a review that said she was 'bland' and I agree with that statement. (Moon) She would have been miscast there too. I assume this was the Frau Mozart role. Yes. She was to play Constanze. I think she would have be out of place in that role as well. Elizabeth Berridge did an outstanding job as her replacment in Amadeus.

(Kathleen) The tall sort of spooky looking guy (as they eat breakfast the morning after). Have seen him before don't know his name. I didn't know his name (thanks Tress) but I know where he's familiar from: he had a recurring role on Moonlighting (80s, Cybill Sheperd & Bruce Willis); I think he was the love interest of the secretary.

Ah Ha, you guys got it! At first I thought I might be the only one who thought so, but I was talking about Meg Tilly. Yes she wasn't pretty enough and I felt like I was listening to a dunce or a half-wit reciting lines most of the time. In fact her looks bugged me so much I started trying not to watch her when she came on screen. Something about the eyebrows! Or the hair. When I first saw JJ I thought, oh my why is he in that role, but as I watched I thought about it, I felt he fit it. And, he did ok in the fencing scenes too. And I recognized the servant, Vincent Schiavelli, from many films. He didn't bug me at all. I'm in the Annette Benning camp on this film. I thought she was prefect. Nasty, rotten, scheming, she really did a good job with the role IMO. And she looked fabulous. I want her bathtub! I wasn't paying too much attention to her Annette voice, which is a little unique!, because the film was a mix of accents anyways, and I was always thinking "Oh my God" whenever MT opened her mouth. But even MT couldn't ruin the film. I loved it. Such a shame about the whole history, especially for the actors. And yes, a powdered blue CF is very sexy, skinny legs and all.

Never thought about Meg T. not being pretty enough. I've heard her described as a classic Botticelli beauty. Angelic. Beauty is in the eye, I guess. Something got CF's attention in a big way! ;-) MT's voice got to me too (Msr. Le Valmont etc.) but not as much as AB (when she asks Jeffrey Jones what day they can get together...Wednesday? Thursday? Gaaah!) That whirly twirly love scene could have been enhanced too. Too much smiling not enough action. Biologically CF only has so much dimple time stored in each of those cheeks and Forman used way more than his ration. He owes me if CF runs out.

I've (finally) uploaded the old film discussion on Hostages to firth.com and I've added a little treat that wasn't there before. ;-) http://www.firth.com/filmdis/hos/host-part1.html

Karen, Very nice, thanks! I don't know what the treat was as I am embarrassed to admit I hadn't looked at it before. But it was all nice!

May I just say that the 3rd pic down in Pt 1 immediately brought up some naughty thoughts and images for me (imagine my hand(s)on his back). Thank goodness it's not close to bedtime...sleep might be elusive. ;-) Yes, thanks Karen for posting that....oh, and the discussion, too. ;-)

(Kathleen), I've heard her described as a classic Botticelli beauty. Angelic. Whoever said this does not know Botticelli. LOL! Thanks, Karen!

Whoever said this does not know Botticelli, LOL LOL2. Moon, I meant Joey Botticelli from Long Island. Who were you thinking of? Would you buy Modigliani? ;-D

(Kathleen) I meant Joey Botticelli from Long Island. Didn't you really mean Joey Buttafuco from Long Island? ;-)

(Kathleen), I meant Joey Botticelli from Long Island. Who were you thinking of? LOL! Nevah hoid of 'im. Now, I'm totally confused! ;-) Would you buy Modigliani? ;-D Yes. But I would rather have a Botticelli. The classic Botticelli beauty is rather round, beautiful eyes, lovely flowing hair.

Can I say something in defense of MT? My DH certainly likes her - she does have a very delicate beauty. Although, apparently in real life, she's rather fiesty! - ODB obviously liked what he saw!! And I don't think she was the weakest actor - she was playing sweet and innocent, not too badly, IMHO.

(MoonDreams) Colin would not agree, but I thought Meg T was the miscast. I found her truly annoying, and not handsome enough to tempt him. ;-) Annette B played it very well. Subtle evil, jealous, flirty, as Kathleen said, very French. I'm with you Moon. I thought MT was horribly miscast. But I guess that's what fate is all about. Obviously she was meant to be there to meet and get Colin and she did just that. I thought AB was terrifically evil. She gave me chills. I hated her and that was good. (Kathleen) LOL2. Moon, I meant Joey Botticelli from Long Island. Who were you thinking of? LOL Kathleen. IMO could be the only plausable comparison.

(Janet)Can I say something in defense of MT? I must say, that since I saw the film first time this summer, with eyes for nothing but ODB, I didn't find her that bad. I found it intriguing to wathc, knowing that they "ended up together". And again, I'm still too focused on ODB's performance (and perhaps looks, just at tiny bit) to form much oppinion of the other actors. I still haven't desided to be proud or embarrased to share my name with AB!

(Dorine)3rd pic down in Pt 1 immediately brought up some naughty thoughts and images for me (imagine my hand(s)on his back). Naughty girl, you just want to join the "I'm getting coal in my stocking crowd" ...and you know they stripped him nekkid later in that scene;-) IMO, MT isn't too bad, but I didn't like her in V. I thought she was a bit too delicate both physically and verbally to complement CF's characterization of V. I also didn't feel a whole lot of chemistry between them on screen. Off screen, however, it was obviously a different kettle of fish.

(Annette re: AZ) I hope, you will let us know the quality, if you get it. I just got my DVD copy of AZ. It's a keeper. It looks great. Color is much more crisp than my VHS copy. Sound is better. It is fullscreen (I prefer widescreen...but I guess you can't be too picky). There are no subtitles available. No goodies. It does have chapter selection, but only 8 chapters. Very good freeze frame, slo-mo stuff here!! I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but have been jumping around and 'pausing' at all the good anguished looks from ODB! Here is the link that Karen posted earlier this week for the DVD in case anyone is interested: http://video.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?WRK=3637653&userid=51SI3GEHQH

Re Hostages. Does anyone know if this is still available for sale? - I have seen it occasionally on Ebay (I assume second hand) at crazy prices.

Janet, I got my tape of Hostages at Videoflicks.ca. It took quite a while but they were able to supply. Price was v. reasonable.

(Janet) Re Hostages. Does anyone know if this is still available for sale? I see Hostages for sale at videoflicks.ca http://www.videoflicks.ca/titles/1042/1042591.htm?SHOW=1&TYPE=0&ASSN=V00001&ESID=XUUXAXXAAXVVVVEVURUUUU

Oh, it's so good to have time to read Drool again! I've been in grading hell for the past few days and got miserably behind. (Moon) She would have been miscast there too. I assume this was the Frau Mozart role. (Tress) Yes. She was to play Constanze. I think she would have be out of place in that role as well. Elizabeth Berridge did an outstanding job as her replacment in Amadeus. I recently got the Amadeus Director's Cut DVD (highly recommended to any Amadeus fans, BTW). The featurette talks about frantic last-minute search to replace MT after she was injured, and has a shot of her in costume and wig as Constanze. Milos Forman commented that in retrospect he felt that Berridge was better for the part.

(Rika)Oh, it's so good to have time to read Drool again! I've been in grading hell for the past few days and got miserably behind. Rika, good to have you back. Happy to know you are finally finished. Sure missed your captures, they certainly give a girl something to think about while she's waiting for Santa;-)Frankly, I'm a little tired of shopping and wrapping, and I could use a little, um, diversion Tress, thanks for the link, just ordered my DVD of AZ.

Well, now that the Semester From Hell is over, I thought I'd better do something before I lose my title as the DVDiva. And with the holidays upon us, it seemed appropriate to spend a bit of time exploring..... First up, we have the ever-popular turtleneck jumper, with a little holiday twist: a festive reindeer motif. Hard to see the details? Yes - let's try a close-up. Note the dark, wavy hair; the intense, brown eyes; the troubled expression.... oh, wait, we're supposed to be discussing the jumper! Let's try again: Mmmmmmm, nice profile...... oh, I did it again! Okay, once more: Wearing this bold design, the successful barrister is sure to make an unforgettable first impression at any holiday party! Now let's get a rear view of the barrister.... I mean, the jumper: See what I mean about the unforgettable first impression? Ding DONG. Well, that's all we have time for today. Tune in tomorrow for the next chapter of

Rika - it's so good to see, sorry I mean hear from you again. Glad that you have found the christmasspirit after your turn to ......

Holiday Fashions for Barristers Dear Sir or Madame: My what an impressive line you have this season! I would like to order. One ever-popular turtleneck sweater in the green, some dark wavy hair, some intense brown eyes and a lovely profile. Would the matching grey slacks also be available? Please send COD. I'll be waiting on my porch. GAAH! RIKA -Great to have you back. K. Janet - My DH certainly like her (MT) So does mine but it has something to do with twisting herself into a pretzel in Big Chill. K.

(Kathleen) So does mine but it has something to do with twisting herself into a pretzel in Big Chill. I've always suspected that was the reason. ;-) Very cute, Rika.

Great stuff, Rika, thanks! Colin and his jumper were singled out in an article in yesterday's Philly Inquirer on bad Christmas sweaters.

Thanks, Rika! I seem to be having a hard time tearing myself away from picture #2. Note the dark, wavy hair; the intense, brown eyes; the troubled expression.... oh, wait, we're supposed to be discussing the jumper! The look, the cleft... AFG!!

Chestnuts roasting on an open fire Jack Frost nipping at your nose Yule-tide carols being sung by a choir And folks dressed up like Eskimos. Everybody knows a turkey curry and some mistletoe Help to make the season bright The WoD (that's Women of Drool) with their eyes all aglow Will find it hard to sleep tonight. THANK YOU RIKA!

(Kathleen) Would the matching grey slacks also be available? Please send COD. I'll be waiting on my porch. GAAH! Regret to inform you that grey slacks are.... well, back-ordered. But have the following item available in grey, from our "Sleepwear for the Football-Obsessed" catalog. Would this be an acceptable alternative? Please advise.

Welcome to today's installment of: Today's topic: neckwear. What could be more festive than a holiday-themed necktie? And we have a fine specimen to show you. What? You say you can't see the necktie? And you actually CARE about that???? Well, okay..... There. You can see a little bit of the tie. As well as some nice eyelashes. But we really should check out the necktie in more detail..... I suppose. Here, take your pick: This is a special tie, by the way. If someone squeezes the barrister - I mean, the tie - hard enough, he - I mean, it - makes noises! Well, that's all we have time for today. Thanks for joining us for today's episode of: And a very Merry Christmas to all those celebrating it this coming week!

Thank you, Rika! It's too bad the Successful Barrister didn't get any reindeer boxers for Christmas! I guess we'll have to be content with the grey ones from the "Sleepwear for the Football-Obsessed" catalog. Not a hardship at all, IMO.

Oh thank you Rika. I see you are back in full DVDiva mode. You know how much I love Mark. Wot a treat. Forget the jumper and tie, just send Mark Darcy...Federal Express, Overnight delivery. I'll pay extra.

Thank you, Rika! I second all the postings of both reindeer boxers, Mark Darcy express and so forth......... A very merry Christmas to all of you.

Oh Rika, how I've missed you....and your pics! My fav of the lots over the 2 installments has to be tie picture number three. That's when Bridget starts her prattling, I think. That look is wonderfully amazing and melts my butter! Other other tie pic just before, number two, is a very close second. There is something about CF when he looks down in those shots that just, well, makes you wish the two of you were on a desert island for an indefinite period of time! Alone. Several cases of champers, sunblock and nothing else. ;) Thanks very much. Happy Holidays to everyone!

LOL RIKA please advise Dear Holiday Fashions for the Successful Barrister : Yes!! I will take a substitution from the "Sleepwear for the Football-Obsessed Catalog". Cannot quite make out all detail.Will you please send them for my FREE 30-day trial closer inspection. I understand my 100% satisfaction is guaranteed. Still waiting on porch! Also a very big fan of eyelashes, frown lines and that little vein that pops above his left eye from time to time. Ah, the maturing man! Just gets better and better. Thanks Rika Happy Holidays Everyone

Rika, did you notice the make-up on him? You can see the under-eye concealer and I believe he even has mascara on the upper lashes. Thanks! And a very Happy Xmas to all!

Rika!!! Blowing kisses your way... What a great start to a day that seems silly to be at work! Squeeze the barrister indeed!! Thank you!! Um, are there any plans for your catalog to showcase the Successful Barrister/Wealthy Landowner/Football Obsessed in clothing two sizes too small? Just a thought...

Rika, thank you so much for these wonderful Christmas-pictures. I love the one when he is looking down best, I'm simply melting. did you notice the make-up on him? You can see the under-eye concealer and I believe he even has mascara on the upper lashes. My, Moon, you must have very good eyes to see that. I can't see it even when I look for it ;-)

THANK YOU SO MUCH RIKA What great pics and comments. I'd like to find him under my tree and would squeeze every part of him. HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE!!

Rika, I think I like it when you are on holiday break...nothing like being out of school to make the teacher giddy! Keep it up! Your pics are brilliant choices! **especially the yummy tie ones!!** Thanks so much!

An old one resurrected: Twas the night before Xmas, when all through Firthworld Not a person was stirring, under covers they curled. The stockings were hung by the great chimney with care In hopes that Lord Wessex soon would be there; The ladies were nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of Colins danced in their heads; And Karen in her kerchief, and Evie in her cap, Had just settled their brains for a long winter�s nap, When out in the courtyard there arose such a clatter, We sprang from our beds to see what was the matter. Away to the window we flew like a flash, Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash. The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow Gave a luster of midday to objects below, When, what should we see on that night cold and chilly? But a opulent carriage and seven sleek fillies, With a tall dark haired driver so handsome and sexy, We knew in a minute it must be Lord Wexy. More rapid than eagles his coursers they came, And he whistled and shouted, and called them by name: "Now Lizzie! Now Julie! Now Chirsty! now Meg! On, Nancy! On, Katherine, on Viola � shake a leg! To the top of the ramparts! To the top of the wall! Now Dash away! Dash away! Dash away all!" As dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly, When they meet with an obstacle, mount to the sky, So up to the Towers the coursers they flew With the carriage full of goodies � And Lord Wessex too. And then, in a twinkling, we heard on the roof The prancing and pawing of each little hoof. As we drew in our heads, and were turning around, Down the chimney Lord Wessex came with a bound. He was dressed all in velvet from his head to his foot, And his clothes were all tarnished with ashes and soot; A bundle of goodies he had on his back, And he looked like the Kingly Head of the Pack. His eyes � how they sparkled, his dimples so keen! His cheeks were like roses, his legs long and lean, His large mobile mouth was drawn up in a grin And the beard on his chin was darker than sin; The candlelight lit his smiling white teeth, And a white ruff encircled his neck like a wreath. He had a small waist, and a whole lot of pep, And he walked with a swaggering, rollicking step. He was elegant, daring, a right handsome old thing, And we laughed when he saw him, and wanted to sing! A wink of his eye, and a twist of his head, Soon gave us to know we had nothing to dread; He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work And filled all the stockings; then turned with a jerk; And laying his fist against mouth (nothing new!) And giving a nod, up the chimney he flew. He sprang to his carriage, to his team gave a whistle, And away they all flew like the down of a thistle. But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight, "I�ll see you next year, Luvs, but for now, A Good Night!

With a tall dark haired driver so handsome and sexy, We knew in a minute it must be Lord Wexy. LOL.The One and Only. Thanks for re-posting that one Murph and for the greeting on O&E

Happy Holidays, everyone.

Thank you Rika! All necktie pics are perfection...that dimpled chin (I grow weak in its presence) I am assuming that the Barrister fashions are on back order. Is it possible to get a rain check? I believe Kathleen is still waiting on the porch for her order (I hope you are bundled up Kathleen). I will content myself by waiting for the next catalog by the fireplace with some hot buttered rum. Is it possible to pre-order? I have in mind a barrister in a grey turtleneck with a long trench coat. Just wondering! Happy Holly-Days to All!!

Thanks Karen for making this topic! Googie girls Rule!! As does our lovely DVD Diva, Thanks, Rika!!!

Thanks for the poem Murph had never seen it. Very clever. Happy Holidays Everyone.

I hope everybody had a great Christmas! Ours was even slightly white.... but it's good to be back home again. I'm glad you all enjoyed my little Christmas gift in the form of a fashion expo. (Lisa) My fav of the lots over the 2 installments has to be tie picture number three. That's when Bridget starts her prattling, I think. Close, but not quite. That's his look in Bridget's direction when his father explains that Mark is going to be moving to NY for the new job. Other other tie pic just before, number two, is a very close second. There is something about CF when he looks down in those shots that just, well, makes you wish the two of you were on a desert island for an indefinite period of time! Alone. Several cases of champers, sunblock and nothing else. ;) That's pretty much the effect it has on me, hence its inclusion among the photos! (Kathleen) Yes!! I will take a substitution from the "Sleepwear for the Football-Obsessed Catalog". Cannot quite make out all detail.Will you please send them for my FREE 30-day trial closer inspection. I understand my 100% satisfaction is guaranteed. Kathleen, will do my best with your shipment. As to the 100% satisfaction guarantee...... no, I'm not touching that one with a ten-foot pole. ;-) (Moon) Rika, did you notice the make-up on him? You can see the under-eye concealer and I believe he even has mascara on the upper lashes. You might be right about the make-up - I didn't notice. All I can say is, I wish under-eye concealer and mascara made ME look that delectable. (Maria) Um, are there any plans for your catalog to showcase the Successful Barrister/Wealthy Landowner/Football Obsessed in clothing two sizes too small? I think Maria is on to something here, particularly when it comes to the football obsessed. Thanks for the poem, Murph!

Rika, I am DVDelirious over the Barrister holiday line. I'm willing to back order only if the model is included with the attire. Think I�ll pass on the yob in his underpants. Murph, v. clever poem.

(Tress) Is it possible to pre-order? I have in mind a barrister in a grey turtleneck with a long trench coat. Don't worry, it's not my intention to keep doing this forever. In fact, the snowman episode was to be the last. But Tress made a request, and as you know I do take requests. So that means it's time for an episode of: Yes, the successful barrister needs to bundle up, yet still look stylish, in the cold winter months. And what better choice than a gray turtleneck under a dark overcoat? Here, you'll see what I mean: Ah, yes. Warm, stylish, and absolutely edible. I know you're waiting for a close-up so you can carefully inspect the color and the quality of the knit fabric. Too bad, because that's not the kind of close-up I have in mind! This is the perfect ensemble for so many purposes. For example, neck nuzzling: Leaning in for a kiss: Checking out reading material: Catching up on your reading: Going for a brisk walk: Leaning in for another kiss: Wrapping someone else in the coat with you: Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.................................. And on that note, we come to the end of this episode of:

RIKA!!!!! I've just fallen off my chair!!!!!!!!!!!! I can still see the monitor so will be quite content as I can view ODB....I mean the turtleneck and coat that I wish to order! Will take it all! Please send express (will pay extra for immediate delivery). Am particularly taken with picture number 2...the dimples, I mean ribbing on the turtle neck make it a fine specimen of ....well, ribbing. The last picture clearly illustrates proper use for a large overcoat, so glad to see it included in the winter line. Thank you so much for sharing your holiday and winter fashions. I anxiously await your Spring catalog! ;-)

Rika, I just love your latest fashion selection! - Pic 2 especially! Thanks for all the wonderful screen captures you've done over the past few months. - I'll have to learn how to do them! And to everyone, I'd like to wish you all a wonderful Christmas holiday and a peaceful New Year.

WOW! Rika, your fashion series is truely wonderful. Thanks so much! I love all of them, esp the latest series (my fav nuzzling and perfect side profile scene). Sure adds to the season cheers. But...what do you mean to say that its not your intention to keep doing this (wonderful thing) forever?? Do think of your fashion fans! :-) I too am looking forward to your spring collection. Will you be looking for a new model? How abt a spring fashion showcase for A Wealthy Landowner? Thanks also to everyone for another wonderful year here. Have a very Happy New Year!

(Andie) How abt a spring fashion showcase for A Wealthy Landowner? I'll give it some thought.... after all, there are a couple of wealthy landowners from which to choose.....

Bringing you up to date: Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 793 of 814: MariaT (poostophles) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (13:47) 3 lines Blockbuster survey New Years Eve Dream date...CF #2 behind Vin Diesel???... http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/021227/daf005_1.html Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 794 of 814: lindak (lindak) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (14:59) 7 lines (Tress) Is it possible to pre-order? I have in mind a barrister in a grey turtleneck with a long trench coat. I want it all, one in every size and color. And I want two of the "catching up on your reading" model. Rika, you are the best. Thank you. Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 795 of 814: Jeanie (Firthermore) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (15:07) 1 lines Thanks, Rika, for posting another lovely series of captures.. especially "The Grunt Scene". (laughing) I hope everyone had a great Christmas. I've been bunkered down, here. I actually went four days without checking my email until my box overflowed and I stopped receiving messages, so if you've sent something and it's been returned, please send again, oksey? (huggling everyone affectionately) Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 796 of 814: MariaT (poostophles) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (15:51) 3 lines (Jeannie) Thanks, Rika, for posting another lovely series of captures.. especially "The Grunt Scene". (laughing) LOL "The Grunt Scene" I love that!! I wish I had an empty fireplace and could rig a tv that just fit inside of it with the grunt scene playing over and over...Actually this brings to mind what could be a fun "avant garde" art show..There could be many of these type fireplace/window/medicine chest/microwave/empty sink monitors up in a gallery designed as a home. Favored scenes would replay on the monitors, and speakers hung in darkened rooms would whisper favored lines "I like you, just as you are", " on foot?", "Say my name", "Would you please please please just ***king ***k off!". Male models would parade about the room in "Winter fashions for the successful barrister" ,and Arsenal boxers, and etc. etc...Muffins and espresso could be served...Getting carried away... Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 797 of 814: Rika (Rika) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (16:19) 2 lines Problem is, where would you find enough male models with the right attributes? I think it's back to that cloning idea again. Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 798 of 814: Annette (anjo) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (16:23) 5 lines (Rika)Problem is, where would you find enough male models with the right attributes? I think it's back to that cloning idea again. I was just about to post, that if it wasn't "the real one", it had no interest whatsoever - but if you get the cloning part going again, I would love to join you. And Rika, thank you for all the wonderful captures from the world of fashion. For once in my life I might actually try to keep up, at least with men-fashion. Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 799 of 814: MariaT (poostophles) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (16:40) 5 lines (Rika) Problem is, where would you find enough male models with the right attributes? I think it's back to that cloning idea again. You can't...But...They could be made to hold up ODB on a stick masks and well, the whole idea is silly but you would just have to drink a great deal of wine and have fun with it... Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 800 of 814: KathyF (kathness) Sat, Dec 28, 2002 (01:52) 3 lines Rika, what a thoroughly delicious sampler of Winter Fashions for the Successful Barrister! I can't decide which one I like best, as all are very scrumptious. Once again I ask myself why Bridget would feel the need to go find tiny knickers at a moment like that?! Such a silly girl! Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 801 of 814: FanPam (FanPam) Sun, Dec 29, 2002 (09:18) 6 lines Thanks for great pics Rika. As usual an outstanding job. (Kathy) Once again I ask myself why Bridget would feel the need to go find tiny knickers at a moment like that?! Such a silly girl! I agree Kathy, one of the great mysteries of the Universe. If she knew how to read her man, she would have realized they wouldn't have been on long enough for him to even notice what kind they were, IMO. If only I were Bridget he would have had his clothes off so fast, his head would have been spinning. No games, just give the man what he had come for, meanwhile making me the happiest of women. Such a silly girl, indeed. Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 802 of 814: lindak (lindak) Sun, Dec 29, 2002 (18:55) 4 lines (Pam)No games, just give the man what he had come for, meanwhile making me the happiest of women. Such a silly girl, indeed. Well said. Ditto! Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 803 of 814: Annette (anjo) Sun, Dec 29, 2002 (19:07) 4 lines I don't know, if it is the right topic, but since I'm drooling all over, I'll post here: Karen - thank you for bringing my dreamdate for New Years Eve. As to the various statements about underpants - well, for what I have in mind for my date, they are not needed at all. Happy New Year everybody!!!! Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 804 of 814: Lisa (freddie) Sun, Dec 29, 2002 (20:40) 3 lines DIMPLE ALERT!!!! Oh thanks for the great New Years Pic Karen........... Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 805 of 814: lindak (lindak) Sun, Dec 29, 2002 (20:50) 4 lines Yes, sorry boss. Forgot to say thank you for sending us ODB all ready for his New Years Eve dates. Notice I said dates. I'll share;-) I'll be away for a few days so just want to say an early Happy New Year to everyone. Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 806 of 814: Annette (anjo) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (07:27) 2 lines Taking a break from cleaning, I put on SLOW to get a little eye-candy. Something puzzled me, that I hadn't noticed before. When Matthew picks up Sam after school, he says to him: Stop looking like an Oxfam poster and come and have some icecream! Where do you think that came from, ODB or the writer? Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 807 of 814: kathleen (townranny) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (14:36) 10 lines Rika, Rika, Rika!!! Gaaah!!!Way behind in my reading again. Almost missed the entire Winter Fashions for successful Barristers series. Lovely, lovely, lovely. I do miss the Barrister most in winter don't you? When the snow starts falling it's time for Mark D. That's all there is to it. He's been on the Kathleen Theater a lot lately. Thanks, Rika!! MariaT : RE:Microwaves saying,"I like you just as you are", "on foot?" , "Wot?" Let's get those GE appliance engineers working on this. I'd spend a whole lot more time in the kitchen. That's for sure!!!! Annette: RE: SLOW, stop looking like an Oxfam poster and come and get some ice cream. I thought that was a bit of an odd thing to say too. don't know who's idea it was. Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 808 of 814: Lora (Lora) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (02:14) 6 lines I've been catching up on this thread and came across this entry: (Dorine)I believe it was me who commented on the "mirror image". Thanks soooo much! A very brief scene with something about it that really amuses me. And I was sure I was the first to make an entry of this observation somewhere: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/126.1451 Hey one must always have something sensational to read on the train/web ;-) Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 809 of 814: Lora (Lora) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (02:17) 4 lines Have a happy healthy New Year everyone! And thanks for all the lovely snow pictures, Rika! Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 810 of 814: AdaVW (shdwmoon) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (20:14) 9 lines Was looking to see what was going to be on TV-NOW in Jan and saw this item, I just had to share; NATALIE PORTMAN: You probably already have plans for New Year's Eve. Portman might want to check with the folks at Blockbusters to see what her agenda for the festive night should include. According to a recent poll taken at the mega video store's online site, movie fans around the nation think that the lovely actress and Vin Diesel are America's favorite fantasy New Year's Eve dates. Portman edged out Halle Berry for the top female spot, while Diesel easily dominated Colin Firth. Don't expect both stars to really be available to help you ring in 2003. Give Berry or Firth a call instead. Anybody have CF's number? Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 811 of 814: KJArt (KJArt) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (22:30) 4 lines Does anybody find it a co-incidence that VD's new DVD release (and rental)through Blockbuster was scheduled for today before the poll was taken?? Hmmmm. Undue influence, maybe?? ;-) (Droll take of this "video of the week" on UPI at): http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021230-051117-6587r Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 812 of 814: KJArt (KJArt) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (22:54) 4 lines Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 813 of 814: lindak (lindak) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (16:50) 5 lines (Article)Give Berry or Firth a call instead. Wonderful suggestion, indeed! Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 814 of 814: Rika (Rika) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (00:01) 2 lines In honor of Dorine's birthday, please join us on Odds & Ends (168) for a Victorian Tea Party and Fashion Show. The tea will be supplied by Dorine's fellow Latte Divas (we're branching out from coffee), and the fashions and models are provided courtesy of the "Summer Fashions for the Wealthy Victorian Gentleman" catalog. Hope to see you there!

Well, that's what I get for having internet access only at work. I've been off for a couple of weeks, and now that I'm back, I can't see all of the wonderful sounding pics that Rika posted (SOB!!!). V. distressing, to say the least... While I was catching up at another (completely non-related) site, I came across a list of unusual holiday gifts on Miami Herald online; while the holidays have passed, I thought this one would amuse all you lovely ladies out there: apparently, a company has figured out how to put a photo on a chocolate bar. Imagine, CF & chocolate, all in one!! (BTW, my birthday is Jan. 16th, hint, hint) Here's the story from the Miami Herald: Chocolate Photograph, from Holiday Gift Guide by Dave Barry $30 plus shipping and handling from Hearts and Flowers Candy, 485 S. Broadway, Unit #19, Hicksville, N.Y. 11801, phone: 516-931-2155, Internet: www.firstchocolate.com Suggested by Evelyn Crawford of Greenville, N.C. Do you have a favorite photograph of a loved one? Would you like to display it in an attractive frame, and yet still be able, if the need arose, to eat it? If so, you are going to be very excited by this item. Thanks to important scientific advances in the field of chocolate, researchers have figured out a way, using food coloring, to put a photo -- supplied by you -- onto a half-pound chocolate bar in such a way that the whole shebang is actually edible! We tested this concept ourself by sending in a nice color photograph of Vice President Dick Cheney. We chose him because there is absolutely nothing funny about using his name in this context. But you can submit any photo you want. This will make a tasteful (Ha ha!) gift for anybody on your gift list. And of course you'll want to get one for yourself -- maybe a photo of your family, to keep on your desk at the office. When your boss compliments you on how nice your loved ones look, you can reply: ''Thanks! Would you like a bite of them?'' This puts you on the fast track to promotion.

(moonstar)''Thanks! Would you like a bite of them?'' This puts you on the fast track to promotion. LOL and whatever. I'm also at work (on my way home), and would love one of those chocolatebars. I wouldn't want to share ODB with anyone though, not even for a promotion ;-)

(moonstar) I've been off for a couple of weeks, and now that I'm back, I can't see all of the wonderful sounding pics that Rika posted (SOB!!!). V. distressing, to say the least... They may reappear later. My web space hasn't been moved to the new server yet. I'm hoping it'll happen soon (insert energetic tapping-of-foot noise, hoping Terry will hear).

(Rika) My web space hasn't been moved to the new server yet. I'm hoping it'll happen soon (insert energetic tapping-of-foot noise, hoping Terry will hear). Forget energetic tapping-of-foot noise, how about banshee-like wail of DVDeprived drooleurs? Be afraid, be very afraid.

(Moonstar) But you can submit any photo you want... Would a picture of "The Whopper" be acceptable. Would the manufacturer approve?

Today I found an interview with RW about TIOBE that I don't know if we ever had posted here. I think I would have remembered the "Colorado" remark (see below). These are excerpts from the "Interview of the Week" by Karen Butler of the UPI Life & Mind Desk, 5/2/2002: ----------------------- So, how was it working with Colin Firth ("Bridget Jones's Diary") and Dame Judi Dench ("Iris," "Shakespeare in Love,") actors known for taking their jobs very seriously. "Well, Colin is just so self-effacing, that you just immediately are just like, 'He's so great.' But, Judi, I was really, really nervous because she's Judi Dench... She has a few awards on her shelves. But, she was so wonderful, too. She was exactly as I would hope she would be. She was gracious and kind. [Giggles.] The boys were always trying to tease her into talking bad about people and she never would. She was just: [Reese does spot-on impression of Judi Dench.] 'I absolutely refuse to talk about that. This is just silly. You should get to work.' It was fun. We had a really good time," Witherspoon recalled. [.....] ".....But, the costumes and the set design are so lush and beautiful. You always have something to look at when you can't understand what Colin Firth is saying because you don't understand what he's saying half the time. "Am I the only American who can't understand people [with accents] sometimes? Colin is so funny. He was talking about how he had to loop a lot of his lines. He was like [affecting a perfect Colin Firth imitation] 'I guess they didn't understand me in Colorado.' It's like: 'You need to slow down, darling, I can't understand a word you said," she stated. ------------------------- Link for the full article: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=02052002-125522-5354r

I remember it. Actually was just rereading around the time it was posted. Someone made a crack about or a mention of Coloradoans. I'd forgotten he had to loop so much. Maybe all that air whooshing in her head made it hard for her to hear him properly. ;-) Guess I shouldn't make cracks about her...which one of us is getting 5 to 15 million dollar paychecks. :(