(Claudia) Okay, who knows the answer to this one: Which movie is this dialogue from (it's from a sound file)? CF: Why did you come? What do you think you'll find here? Girl: That you love me. CF: Do you want me to lie to you? Girl: ....... Yes. Valmont! Go get it and join the discussion. Make haste! ;-D

Since my last post is 188 messages ago I have to appologize for neglecting my drooling duties. After being away for a holiday of two weeks I try to conquer the floods and fountains of drool on the Spring. Thanks to Nan and Renate for scaning all those gorgeous pictures. FEVER PITCH Yesterday was my lucky day because FP was shown in my part of Germany. It's a funny movie and Colin has so many lovely scenes in it, e.g, his reaction to Sarah's invitation and sleeping on the bench in the park. I even like Colin's beard in this movie and hope that I'll get the video soon. A question to the experts: during the decisive last Arsenal game Sarah's girlfriend switches the channels and you see a guy whom I suspect to be the one who won the BAFTA instead of Colin. Am I right or wrong? FIRST IDOLS (LorieS) Shameful but true...at a time in life when I should have been idolizing Bobby Sherman or some such person, I had a bad crush on Jack Lord (of Hawaii 5-0 fame)...(snip) Lorie, I'm so happy that I'm not alone with this problem. Today I really don't know what attracted me! But things are getting worse. JL is the reason for a creepy experience with CF because my first thought after seeing the picture in USA Today, May 19, 1996 was: there he looks like... I don't dare to finish the sentence. (I guess the hair-style is the crucial point.) All we can say is that our taste has improved since then! VALMONT To describe Colin's performance in this movie I have to borrow Nan's cute and Marilyn's edible . I prefer Forman's lighter version of Dangerous Liasons. Valmont is lavish of colors, landscape, costumes but what is the story all about? About Meg Tilly (Nan) One minute she's saying "No, no" and the next she's hopping onto his saddle (oh baby!). Yes, exactly my thoughts! Colin's hair and wig Does anyone know what they did with his hair? During the opera scene in Mme de M.'s box his hair looks smooth but in the following scene outside the box his hair looks curly and this gives him a very boyish look. In the pond scene he enters the boot with curly hair and has a very strange hair style during his talk with Mme. de T. To me it looks as if longer hair was connected with his own hair but it was not done well enough. You can see that after his jump into the pond! Renate and Arami discussed this p int some time ago. Pride and Prejudice Which member of the P&P team was so fond of Valmont that he included the pond, the bath-tub, the candle and the ring? My guess is Andrew Davies. Favourite scene CF: Why did you come? What do you think you'll find here? Girl: That you love me. CF: Do you want me to lie to you? Girl: ....... Yes. I just had to repeat this dialogue, because this is my favourite scene, starting with Valmont lying on the bed and ending with Valmont lying in the bed.

FEVER PITCH - THE VIDEO (Nan) I'm jealous... and counting the days until I can get my greedy hands on it.;-) Anybody know anything about when (notice I didn't say "if") we will get to see it here?? I did some on-line searching at a video site and didn't see it listed even in the "future" release category, which went through about Thanksgiving. TEP (Nan) LOL but I do have to disagree with you there. He's not Colin, but he does me just fine (it's the eyes!) ;-) What??? You like small, beady eyes??? Not for me. Give me big eyes that you could drown in, big pondlike eyes!!! How's that? ;-)) NOT IN YOUR THEATERS YET (Karen) Now I think we have a potential rival bath scene for KC's in Bull Durham (which I too have watched over and over and over again)--the best--until maybe this???? (Nan) Oooh, I dunno...that's a tough decision. You know how much I love that 60 minute man thing...We're back to that choice again: Kevin or Colin, Kevin or Colin. Then again, we could just go with Marilyn's suggestion--get a bigger tub! ;-p Splish, splash...and out go those candles!! "He shifted on his side to make the physiological fact less evident. Rose washed around the bruise on his hip" (Karen)Wrong direction, dear!! Do you need glasses??? (Nan) Oh I hope not ;-p Her, not him. (Nan) Though I was kinda hoping for some more "cheap Harlequin" moments ;-p Your wish has been answered. My poor fingers have been busy (no scanner for me) and I couldn't be that heartless to leave you hanging there, on the edge of the bathtub wondering when and if Lazarus would rise from the dead again!! But it's going to be on the installment method. ROSE, PART II He pounded her door to b heard over the downpour. When Rose finally opened, he hobbled through and leaned against the jamb, resting his weight on one leg....Her hair was wild, spilling from a comb. Skin olive from coal dust...There was no sign of her friend Flo. "I told you not t'come back," she said. "I didn't want to, but ..." ***** Blair started when the sound of the rain on slate roofs accelerated to a drumming that drowned out his words, and without thinking he moved away from the open door. Without conscious intent, he found his hand on her waist. By itself, it drew her close. Rose could have hit him or driven her comb into his hand. Instead, she raised her mouth to his and gave him the taste of coal. ***** Through his hand he felt her heart, beating as hard as his. He couldn't hear the clock over the rain, but he saw the pendulum stirring by the grate. If he could have stepped back in time a mere minute and undone his touch, he would have. He couldn't. Besides, at a moment when her usual coquetry could have been expected and would have set him free, Rose seemed as astonished as he was. Or she was a better actor. Upstairs, her room had an unlit lamp, the shadow of a chest of drawers, a bed with cotton sheets as worn as cambric. In his arms she was more slender than he had expected, and paler. He caught a flash of her back in a long mirror. A year of deprivation made the slightest touch feverish, as in a reverie. Need was a form of insanity, he thought. He entered her with desperation, as a drowning man rises to the surface. She couldn't have been more than nineteen or twenty, but she waited for him with patience. He felt like a satyr upon her younger body, until, when he was firmly set, her face colored and he felt her legs around his back. What would the first drink of water in a year be like? What is water to the soul? What is astonishing about a primal act is the wholeness of the two bodies, as he was astonished to find himself in a bed and made complete by a mere pit girl. He was aware of her sooty hands and face, and of his hands and face growing as dark, but mostly of her eyes, which watched him with a glow of triumph. Sweat shone on her brow and welled around her eyes, making the lids darker, the whites brighter, avenues to gaze that drew him in. Should an ignorant girl be shallow? There was a depth to Rose he was unprepared for, but now had fallen into. More than fallen: plunged. Pain washed away. Or he had gone to a level where pain could not follow, a level that was all Rose, where he felt himself gladly disappear, then reappear, his whole body hard as a stone she clung to, then shudder and dissolve from stone to flesh. ******Afterwards.... Talk died for a second because they didn't know each other, he thought. They had nothing in common, had gone through no period of wooing, only found themselves impelled toward each other, like planets falling into a mutual gravitational pull. ****** "I haven't had all that many women, but all were different." "How?" "Touch, smell, taste, motion, heat." "God, you're a scientist. And what do I taste like?" He ran his hand over her flank and across her belly, then licked his palm. "Rose. A slightly burnt rose." She shifted to one elbow....She ran her hand up his leg and held him there. "I see you're alive again." Rose was no ordinary girl, Blair thought. He had brought a year's hunger to her bed and yet her passion matched his, as if a single night would have to feed the rest of her life, too. She had the abandon that willingly, consciously accepted damnation if she could find someone to be damned with. ***** Was it love? He thought not. Their bodies beat together with a ferocity more like anger, like crazed, sweating cymbals. He felt his eyes starting, the muscles of his shoulders straining as her nails traveled the groove of his back. White smeared the black, the sheets spread infinitely from side to side. Above the bed was ordinary space. Within her a deeper place. Not Wigan. A different land altogether. END OF PART II FIRST IDOL (Nan) Very likely. Know anywhere I can see a picture? Not a clue. I was surfing around yesterday and was kind of pleased to discover that he was in a movie last year (after about a 25 year absence); I'll have to rent it. Anyway, the best place to look for him is in the movie "Ryan's Daughter." He was the British soldier that Sarah Miles is in love with, of course, I liked him before that. Just picture James Dean in East of Eden...and you've got Christopher Jones. And, yes, Dean Martin, Jr. was married to Dorothy Hamill. I seem to remember he died in a plane crash. :-( (Nan) I thought Brad Pitt was beautiful until he became BRAD PITT. (Alicia) Funny that you mention Brad Pitt. I thought he was the best looking thing, esp. in "A River Runs Through It." Ya know why??? Because he was doing Robert Redford. With or without the looks, all you have to do is close you eyes (kind of hard to do) and listen. The lines, the intonation, everything, exactly the way Redford had said things in past movies. Understandable, I guess, since as director, he would have told Brad how to say things and what emotion to convey. I loved that movie!! But deep inside I kept thinking it was just a young Redford in the lead. FROZEN PEAS Let's just say "to be continued" when we move on to Femme Fatale. A QUESTION OF POSITION (Renate) (in synch) ouhh - ouhh - ouhh - ouhh - ough - ough - oooouuoohh aaaaaaahhhhhhh (Nan)LMAO!! ;-D Where's my tape!!! I'm calling Amazon today. How long can it take them. VALMONT (Nan) "that Firth guy is mighty cute". Yes, cute. I wouldn't really describe him that way now, but in Valmont he is devilishly cute. What's wrong with cute? Especially, devilishly cute!!! Not rugged enough?? I like the boyishly, good looking. I particularly like the first time we see him (at the opera) when he asks AB "How old did you say she was?" mumbling a little with the one-eyed squint. Delightful! Can this guy make adorable faces or what?? To me, a major drool factor. For Renate and Arami--I still think his hair (after he comes out of the water) looks like a big jellyfish LOL! ;-D Couldn't agree with you more, dear. As my mother always said, "pull back your hair so people can see your face." Wise lady. However, I was comforted by the appearance of yet another wet shirt. Who wasn't?? Love the wet look, although my only complaint about the costumes, except for the frilliness--which couldn't be helped given the period--is that the waistcoat is toooooo long in front!!! ;-o All he had to say was "You're a brilliant archer" and bang, her demeanor changed instantly. Interesting pick up line, don't you think? ;-.p Hmmm I stopped thinking long ago. I loved that scene. Takes your breath away. Just swoosh down, pick me up, set me down in front of you in that saddle and we gallop off to a clearing in the woods---whoops, forgot the cheek to cheek archery instruction--and dance. A dream...and that woman was a nightmare...how dare she ruin the moment by reading that letter. Oh well, he strode away quite nicely, almost as good as when he leaves AB's toilette and the glass in the door shatters!! when he sees Cecile in the carriage--I love that little tolerant smile he gives after AB says "Look who I brought with me". I would characterize it as amused. But then, AB asks "would like to join us?" and his look is even better--sort of a "no way, Jose, I'm not playing your game look!!! He is just too desirable when he is brooding (after AB refuses to honor the bet) I can't take it! Poor Colin needs some lovin' ;-.D I know they are both supposed to be manipulative and they both get their comeuppance (just look at how dejected AB looks at the funeral and the wedding), but I just felt so sorry for him. Like he didn't deserve it and she was wicked, wicked!! Obviously they had a history and he dumped her and she was getting back at him...but she was an idiot, not being able to see that he had changed for the good and that he loved her (she obviously loved him). What a dummy!! AB's knees in the tub scene: I finally noticed it Renate! It is a little distracting. It starts with the garment covering her left knee, then her right, then both, etc. What about the knees? Am I going to have to review that scene again? What should I be looking for? (Sylvia) To me it looks as if longer hair was connected with his own hair but it was not done well enough. (snip) Arami discussed this point some time ago. I thought so too. Like he went to "Hair Extensions, Inc." But how come no one has mentioned yet that all of a sudden, this guy has big thatch of dark hair on his chest!!! It hasn't been around in most of the other movies. Don't tell me that they are doing a wax job on him!! I can understand the need to wax (almost wrote whack) Alec Baldwin and a few others, but CF in his other movies?? Some favorite lines: -Good night, my little monk. -It had to do with your husband's nose -Did I say to stop writing? So go on. -Are you deaf? so keep writing -Do you have a better way to say it...so? -M. de Valmont is quite a writer, isn't he? BTW: What is the dumbest question in the movie? Answer at 10. QUESTION TO SYLVIA Hi!! Since you mentioned you are in Germany, I was just wondering about Til Schweiger (forgive the spelling)? Is it true that he is considered Germany's answer to Tom Cruise? The reason I ask is that I just saw his new movie called "Knocking on Heaven's Door" and he was there to answer questions since he was also the producer. Personally, I didn't see any resemblance except in that they are both kind of stocky. Is it the kind of roles he is in? Why do they say that?

I'm over here with the experienced droolers and feel *way* over my head in this room, but you did put a link from 59 .... then you put up a pix from Valmont (give him credit - with all that in front of him he looks in her eyes! "That's a Gentleman for you!" Now I will have to scratch around this backwater and see if I can find a copy of V to beg, borrow or steal (only till I can make a copy) and admire his ruffles and flourishes. I have been forwarned that he meets a less than happy outcome, but we ust suffer for art's sake and plunge in with mega-boxes of tissues ever at the ready for whatever moisture emanates from wherever. Please don't stone the really neophytic - you've been my sustenance for many months and I couldn't handle it =) My first idol was Lord Olivier (yes, I'm in 11 also) with minor lapses, he still was until....Marcia in Hawaii

When I should have watched Valmont I've been busy creating my Firth page (takes a minute to load): Who? IN FAVOUR OF DUBBING And yes, I found some time to watch Valmont - and it was a kind of subtle torture for me, again. Because, whatever I try (relax......... your are very calm...) I still cannot stand AB's drawl, and MT is not too pleasurable for my ears either. BUT! I never thought I would ever be happy about a German dubbed version. And since the translation was rather good, and Valmonts voice only a bit too dark, but ok, I have found a way how I can watch this film without getting aggressive. :-))

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:-)) Thank you, Nan, for converting the picture so beautifully! How do you like it?

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What is this all about? I accidently stumbled upon this site, do not ask me how, but what am I supposed to do? What is this whole thing about Colin Firth? What do you want me to say?

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(Arami) Hey, this thing's gone mad. It's repeating my Purple Colin message over and over. Spread the gospel - spread the gospel - spread ......... To all: PS to my new page: ( Who? ) The names are supposed to MOVE! It was created in MSIE, but now I have heard that with Netscape they don't move, and about 90% of the effect is gone. Would like to know what you experienced with your browsers. Thanks.

SYLVIA!! Where have you beeeen? We quite despaired of you. ;-p Since my last post is 188 messages ago I have to appologize for neglecting my drooling duties. After being away for a holiday of two weeks I try to conquer the floods and fountains Oh my! You have a lot to catch up on dear ;-) VALMONT (Sylvia) Does anyone know what they did with his hair? See...Sylvia thinks it looks like a big ol' jellyfish too ;-) To me it looks as if longer hair was connected with his own hair but it was not done well enough. You can see that after his jump into the pond! Renate and Arami discussed this point some time ago. Yes I think there is some strange combination of his hair and a lame wig that looks fine when it's dry, but kinda scary when it's wet...kind of like "Day of the Triffids" ;-p Favourite scene CF: Why did you come? What do you think you'll find here? Girl: That you love me. CF: Do you want me to lie to you? Girl: ....... Yes. (Sylvia)I just had to repeat this dialogue, because this is my favourite scene, starting with Valmont lying on the bed and ending with Valmont lying in the bed. LOL! Though I still think MT was miscast, I agree that her "yes" is really perfection. Then again it could just be that I wanted to be her in that scene...;-p FEVER PITCH - THE VIDEO (Karen) Anybody know anything about when (notice I didn't say "if") we will get to see it here?? There was a rumor about Spring 98 :-( TEP (Nan)He's not Colin, but he does me just fine (it's the eyes!) ;-) (Karen) What??? You like small, beady eyes??? Not for me. Give me big eyes that you could drown in, big pondlike eyes!!! How's that? ;-)) Oh but the color Karen, the color! BTW, I never thought his eyes were beady. Nope, I'm afraid you won't be able to discourage my hormones on this one. He's not my first choice, but he's in the top 10. ;-) NOT IN YOUR THEATERS YET (Karen) "He shifted on his side to make the physiological fact less evident. Rose washed around the bruise on his hip" (Karen)Wrong direction, dear!! Do you need glasses??? (Nan) Oh I hope not ;-p (Karen)Her, not him. That's what I meant--if she needs glasses to notice then we're in trouble here ;-p (Nan) Though I was kinda hoping for some more "cheap Harlequin" moments ;-p (Karen) Your wish has been answered. (snip) A year of deprivation made the slightest touch feverish, as in a reverie. Need was a form of insanity, he thought. He entered her with desperation, as a drowning man rises to the surface. Well now...rising to the surface is good ;-D And you thought the last excerpt was steamier than that? ;-p What would the first drink of water in a year be like? What is water to the soul? What is astonishing about a primal act is the wholeness of the two bodies, as he was astonished to find himself in a bed and made complete by a mere pit girl. This is not the time to get analytical ;-p He was aware of her sooty hands and face, and of his hands and face growing as dark, but mostly of her eyes, which watched him with a glow of triumph. Good for her! There was a depth to Rose he was unprepared for, but now had fallen into. More than fallen: plunged. Hmmm...I'm wondering which way I should take that ;-p Pain washed away. Or he had gone to a level where pain could not follow, a level that was all Rose, where he felt himself gladly disappear, then reappear, his whole body hard as a stone she clung to, then shudder and dissolve from stone to flesh. Oh, this is one of those out of body Femme Fatale moments! "I haven't had all that many women, but all were different." "How?" "Touch, smell, taste, motion, heat." "God, you're a scientist. And what do I taste like?" I'm getting antsy now--why are people compelled to ask those questions after sex... He ran his hand over her flank and across her belly, then licked his palm. "Rose. A slightly burnt rose." And he answers her no less! :-( Rose was no ordinary girl, Blair thought. He had brought a year's hunger to her bed and yet her passion matched his, as if a single night would have to feed the rest of her life, too. Well geez, whaddya expect after a year? ;-p Their bodies beat together with a ferocity more like anger, Okay, now this I can relate to... like crazed, sweating cymbals. Where oh where is my hockey player when I need him? ;-D Okay now, I really have to get this book now, just for that last line alone. Karen, did you like the rest of it? Or do you just want to give me the page numbers of all the good parts ;-p A QUESTION OF POSITION (Renate) (in synch) ouhh - ouhh - ouhh - ouhh - ough - ough - oooouuoohh aaaaaaahhhhhhh (Nan)LMAO!! ;-D (Karen) Where's my tape!!! I'm calling Amazon today. How long can it take them. They have a lot of nerve! Keeping you from the groans...;-p VALMONT (Nan) "that Firth guy is mighty cute". Yes, cute. I wouldn't really describe him that way now, but in Valmont he is devilishly cute. (Karen) What's wrong with cute? Especially, devilishly cute!!! Not rugged enough?? I like the boyishly, good looking. I think I'm over the boyishly cute thing (Shaun, etc.) and have moved on to "masculine" and sometimes even "brutish" (you listening Marilyn?) ;-p Can this guy make adorable faces or what?? To me, a major drool factor. I wonder how much of that is spontaneous and how much is the result of previous study? ;-) Love the wet look, although my only complaint about the costumes, except for the frilliness--which couldn't be helped given the period--is that the waistcoat is toooooo long in front!!! ;-o Absolutely true...how are we ever to settle the east/west question while he's wearing clothing like that? (Karen) Obviously they had a history and he dumped her and she was getting back at him...but she was an idiot, not being able to see that he had changed for the good and that he loved her (she obviously loved him). What a dummy!! I don't know if I'd call it love or even lust. Maybe obsession? The two seem determined to both possess and destroy eachother. I did think that AB was far meaner than CF (but I'm pretty biased). (Karen) What about the knees? Am I going to have to review that scene again? What should I be looking for? Oh nothing really juicy. Renate mentioned had some months ago that she found that scene very distracting because the clingy robe thingie that AB wears "moves" all by itself. One moment it's covering her right knee, then the left, then both...bad editing. Anyway, I hadn't really noticed it until this viewing. Like he went to "Hair Extensions, Inc." LOL!! ;-D But how come no one has mentioned yet that all of a sudden, this guy has big thatch of dark hair on his chest!!! Where? When? How? (I sound like Vinnie Barbarino) ;-) It hasn't been around in most of the other movies. Don't tell me that they are doing a wax job on him!! Eeeewww! I don't think so. I didn't notice anything other than the usual 10 Colin chest hairs. Do tell... Some favorite lines: -It had to do with your husband's nose Oooh, I forgot about that one. MAKING AN APPEARANCE (Marcia) I'm over here with the experienced droolers and feel *way* over my head in this room So there you are--glad you could join us. As long as you like Colin, you're not in over your head ;-) give him credit - with all that in front of him he looks in her eyes! "That's a Gentleman for you!" Oh I like the idea of his being a gentleman. I hadn't thought about it that way. I just assumed that he'd seen it so often that it didn't phase him ;-p Now I will have to scratch around this backwater and see if I can find a copy of V to beg, borrow or steal There's gotta be somewhere in Hawaii where you can scrounge up a copy. You really must see it, regardless of the unhappy end. He is just too charming for his own good. but we must suffer for art's sake and plunge in with mega-boxes of tissues ever at the ready for whatever moisture emanates from wherever. That was a good line Marcia--impressive drooling you've got going there pal ;-D SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'VE BEEN! (Renate) When I should have watched Valmont I've been busy creating my Firth page (snip) The names are supposed to MOVE! It was created in MSIE, but now I have heard that with Netscape they don't move, and about 90% of the effect is gone. Would like to know what you experienced with your browsers. Thanks. So that's what happened! When I viewed it at the office (Explorer) all the names were moving. BTW, I really liked how the white "Fitzwilliam Darcy" moved slower than everything else. Then I got home, looked again (in Netscape) and everything was stationery and flush left. :-( All this browser nonsense--they have a lot of nerve, screwing up your page like that! I could never warm up to Netscape and now I know why. I much prefer Explorer...it's only fault is that the html blink doesn't work. Anyway, I'm glad I got to see it the "right" way at the office. Looks good--I had no idea you were a closet geek. I'm impressed that you knew how to do this and that you found the time. Brava Signora! (Renate) Thank you, Nan, for converting the picture so beautifully! How do you like it? 'Twas a labor of love dearest (Colin. My scanner. Photoshop. It's been a great week!) He looks really good...if I had known you were working on a page I'd have gotten more creative. So, which photo of Colin would you like me to tackle next? :-) THE GHOST OF COUNT ALMASY REARS HIS UGLY HEAD Hey, this thing's gone mad. It's repeating my Purple Colin message over and over. I swear I have posted it only once. Same thing happened to me the other day. He just won't leave us alone. "I swear your honor, it was the software" ;-)

With freeze-frame at the ready, the largest non-projector TV made, and my bonus-sized Magnifying Glass, I am about to tackle the steps at Netherfield plus the pre-plunge stretch (from a distance) at the pond to check for evidence of shirttails or something more substantial. Your comments made me take notes, and since I still do not have Valmont to put on my Firth-sized TV, I shall peer even deeper into P&P2 than ever before. Will check out all of the "thingies" and left-for-right items if I can EVER tea my eyes away from his face! A report will by made as soon as I can stop looking....

Oooh, very nice, Renate. I really like "Who?"

Question to Sylvia (KarenR) Hi!! Since you mentioned you are in Germany, I was just wondering about Til Schweiger (forgive the spelling)? Is it true that he is considered Germany's answer to Tom Cruise? ... (snip) I'm afraid I'm of little help here. All I can remember having seen with Til Schweiger are some ads for his movies. This is no basis to decide the Tom Cruise question but a hint that he has not made an impression on me. But perhaps this is not TS's fault since my thoughts were occupied with someone else. We should pass this question to Renate. BTW, where are you Karen? Renate's homepage Go to it, Renate! I hope you can conquer the problem with Netscape. (Very selfish wish, because Netscape is the only browser I have.) In favour of dubbing (Renate) And yes, I found some time to watch Valmont ... (snip)... I never thought I would ever be happy about a German dubbed version...(snip) I'm very happy to hear that. I consoles me a little bit since I haven't seen the original version and I long to hear HIS VOICE speaking my favourite dialogue.

Delurked to post a long, long message and the server was down, so couldn't submit! Very frustrating! Repeat (shortened) version follows! (Nan)I guess it's good that Colin doesn't have an interest in being famous.. I really agree here. I like the fact that Colin continues to be unassuming and normal. He still hasn't moved from his Hackney flat and seems to avoid show biz-type publicity. The first comment I ever read about him was by Sue Birtwistle, the producer of P&P, (who must know him well), who said that he was "quiet, sweet and academic". I remember thinking "He looks like THAT and he's still NICE?!!" I don't think quiet means inarticulate - he expresses himself too well - but maybe he's not an obvious candidat for talkshows and show biz parties! A QUESTION OF POSITION The missing 15 minutes of The Advocate - perhapse they cut the court scenes - all that boring Latin! But I always assumed that it was the fourth position in the scene with the servant girl, which I must admit to never having seen on screen before! But then I'm a fan of old movies!! And don't ask me what's the fourth position - all that's needed is a little imagination!:-) FEVER PITCH - THE VIDEO Marvellously cheerful opening, very well acted, good script, funny, very good on screen chemistry beyween Colin/Paul and Ruth/Sarah. Colin looks like an unshaven scruffy Darcy in jeans and baggy sweaters (from his own wardrobe?) He kisses very tentatively though - Sarah shows much more enthusiasm! But he's good at hugging and caressing! More next.. NOW WILL THIS POST?!!!

Just lovely, Renate, can't wait to see what you do on your home page next!! FEVER PITCH - THE VIDEO (Nan) There was a rumor about Spring 98 :-( Don't frown. ATA will probably beat it to the video stores and then we can fast forward past all that crumby story stuff to the good parts.

SUCCESS!! TEP (Marilyn) Colin's performance is even more brilliant second time around It needs to be viewed on video. A very subtle performance. As ever he does a lot with very little material. Who? Very impressive Renate! I thought you'd been quiet this week! Hairy chest The hair on his chest seems to wax and wane, or wax and wax. Sometimes more luxuriantly! Serious stuff (Marcia) Your comments made me take notes Welcome to another serious student :-) Sometimes you have to tear your eyes away from his face - in the interests of scientific evaluation, of course! BAFTA winner Sylvia, well spotted. It is Robbie Coltrane in FP. An in-joke perhaps? Repeat performance Hello there Arami. Yes we do know that Purple Colin loads in seconds. Loads in seconds. Loads in..Hello there Arami.. FP the video More...he has a distinctive South London accent throughout (is there a N.London accent) which I like. He plays an English teacher (teaches American literature actually - Steinbeck et al) who also coaches soccer. Romantic comedy with soccer obsession at its core, but even if you're indifferent to soccer, you'll still enjoy it - WHEN you see it! Not an Oscar winner, but good value for money. Made for under 3 million dollars. Depends on charm rather than huge special effects.

VALMONT (Nan) I think there is some strange combination of his hair and a lame wig Oh, God, not another small budget production... the waistcoat is toooooo long in front! ...how are we ever to settle the east/west question while he's wearing clothing like that? Uh-huh, it's the raise the subject time again... all of a sudden, this guy has big thatch of dark hair on his chest!!! It's been there all the time - smaller and lighter in his twenties and now thickening as he approaches middle age. On occasions it's been dyed to match his darkened hair, e.g. as Darcy.(Lord, things they make me reveal... all in the name of art...) ROSE There was a depth to Rose he was unprepared for, but now had fallen into. More than fallen: plunged. (Nan)Hmmm...I'm wondering which way I should take that ;-p LOL! It must be a universal thing - to me it definitely has comical undertones... a valuable lesson how NOT to compose your passionate love scene musings... (Marcia) I am about to tackle the steps at Netherfield plus the pre-plunge stretch (from a distance) at the pond to check for evidence of shirttails or something more substantial. Don't forget the London street scenes (Darcy in search for Wickham) - most intriguing. Not only shirttails, but his winter coat, a small carriage and a pair of horses, I'd say... Renate will tell you their names, too. FEVER PITCH - THE VIDEO The pic on the cover is somewhat weird: he was obviously told to make "loutish" faces and gestures - raised eyebrows, eyes almost popping out, wide open mouth as if yelling, clenched "yesss!" fist gesture... he is practically unrecognizable... another one for the chameleon collection.

Renate. I have MSIE, and it looks so cool. Really hot. I envy the work. Makes me want to stay up all night and make something bright.

Something's at Netherfield. Perhaps athletic underequipment? Thanks for the suggestion I check the London scenes...and not for the netherworld but rather for the Netherregions? Back to the video......!sigh! Suffer....Suffer...

BTW, may I claim a lap robe from one of his many carriages? Pleeeeeeeeeease?

i donno what to say can someone help me I am still new to this stuff:))))

SYLVIA!! Where have you beeeen? We quite despaired of you. ;-p Since my last post is 188 messages ago I have to appologize for neglecting my drooling duties. After being away for a holiday of two weeks I try to conquer the floods and fountains Oh my! You have a lot to catch up on dear ;-) VALMONT (Sylvia) Does anyone know what they did with his hair? See...Sylvia thinks it looks like a big ol' jellyfish too ;-) To me it looks as if longer hair was connected with his own hair but it was not done well enough. You can see that after his jump into the pond! Renate and Arami discussed this point some time ago. Yes I think there is some strange combination of his hair and a lame wig that looks fine when it's dry, but kinda scary when it's wet...kind of like "Day of the Triffids" ;-p Favourite scene CF: Why did you come? What do you think you'll find here? Girl: That you love me. CF: Do you want me to lie to you? Girl: ....... Yes. (Sylvia)I just had to repeat this dialogue, because this is my favourite scene, starting with Valmont lying on the bed and ending with Valmont lying in the bed. LOL! Though I still think MT was miscast, I agree that her "yes" is really perfection. Then again it could just be that I wanted to be her in that scene...;-p FEVER PITCH - THE VIDEO (Karen) Anybody know anything about when (notice I didn't say "if") we will get to see it here?? There was a rumor about Spring 98 :-( TEP (Nan)He's not Colin, but he does me just fine (it's the eyes!) ;-) (Karen) What??? You like small, beady eyes??? Not for me. Give me big eyes that you could drown in, big pondlike eyes!!! How's that? ;-)) Oh but the color Karen, the color! BTW, I never thought his eyes were beady. Nope, I'm afraid you won't be able to discourage my hormones on this one. He's not my first choice, but he's in the top 10. ;-) NOT IN YOUR THEATERS YET (Karen) "He shifted on his side to make the physiological fact less evident. Rose washed around the bruise on his hip" (Karen)Wrong direction, dear!! Do you need glasses??? (Nan) Oh I hope not ;-p (Karen)Her, not him. That's what I meant--if she needs glasses to notice then we're in trouble here ;-p (Nan) Though I was kinda hoping for some more "cheap Harlequin" moments ;-p (Karen) Your wish has been answered. (snip) A year of deprivation made the slightest touch feverish, as in a reverie. Need was a form of insanity, he thought. He entered her with desperation, as a drowning man rises to the surface. Well now...rising to the surface is good ;-D And you thought the last excerpt was steamier than that? ;-p What would the first drink of water in a year be like? What is water to the soul? What is astonishing about a primal act is the wholeness of the two bodies, as he was astonished to find himself in a bed and made complete by a mere pit girl. This is not the time to get analytical ;-p He was aware of her sooty hands and face, and of his hands and face growing as dark, but mostly of her eyes, which watched him with a glow of triumph. Good for her! There was a depth to Rose he was unprepared for, but now had fallen into. More than fallen: plunged. Hmmm...I'm wondering which way I should take that ;-p Pain washed away. Or he had gone to a level where pain could not follow, a level that was all Rose, where he felt himself gladly disappear, then reappear, his whole body hard as a stone she clung to, then shudder and dissolve from stone to flesh. Oh, this is one of those out of body Femme Fatale moments! "I haven't had all that many women, but all were different." "How?" "Touch, smell, taste, motion, heat." "God, you're a scientist. And what do I taste like?" I'm getting antsy now--why are people compelled to ask those questions after sex... He ran his hand over her flank and across her belly, then licked his palm. "Rose. A slightly burnt rose." And he answers her no less! :-( Rose was no ordinary girl, Blair thought. He had brought a year's hunger to her bed and yet her passion matched his, as if a single night would have to feed the rest of her life, too. Well geez, whaddya expect after a year? ;-p Their bodies beat together with a ferocity more like anger, Okay, now this I can relate to... like crazed, sweating cymbals. Where oh where is my hockey player when I need him? ;-D Okay now, I really have to get this book now, just for that last line alone. Karen, did you like the rest of it? Or do you just want to give me the page numbers of all the good parts ;-p A QUESTION OF POSITION (Renate) (in synch) ouhh - ouhh - ouhh - ouhh - ough - ough - oooouuoohh aaaaaaahhhhhhh (Nan)LMAO!! ;-D (Karen) Where's my tape!!! I'm calling Amazon today. How long can it take them. They have a lot of nerve! Keeping you from the groans...;-p VALMONT (Nan) "that Firth guy is mighty cute". Yes, cute. I wouldn't really describe him that way now, but in Valmont he is devilishly cute. (Karen) What's wrong with cute? Especially, devilishly cute!!! Not rugged enough?? I like the boyishly, good looking. I think I'm over the boyishly cute thing (Shaun, etc.) and have moved on to "masculine" and sometimes even "brutish" (you listening Marilyn?) ;-p Can this guy make adorable faces or what?? To me, a major drool factor. I wonder how much of that is spontaneous and how much is the result of previous study? ;-) Love the wet look, although my only complaint about the costumes, except for the frilliness--which couldn't be helped given the period--is that the waistcoat is toooooo long in front!!! ;-o Absolutely true...how are we ever to settle the east/west question while he's wearing clothing like that? (Karen) Obviously they had a history and he dumped her and she was getting back at him...but she was an idiot, not being able to see that he had changed for the good and that he loved her (she obviously loved him). What a dummy!! I don't know if I'd call it love or even lust. Maybe obsession? The two seem determined to both possess and destroy eachother. I did think that AB was far meaner than CF (but I'm pretty biased). (Karen) What about the knees? Am I going to have to review that scene again? What should I be looking for? Oh nothing really juicy. Renate mentioned had some months ago that she found that scene very distracting because the clingy robe thingie that AB wears "moves" all by itself. One moment it's covering her right knee, then the left, then both...bad editing. Anyway, I hadn't really noticed it until this viewing. Like he went to "Hair Extensions, Inc." LOL!! ;-D But how come no one has mentioned yet that all of a sudden, this guy has big thatch of dark hair on his chest!!! Where? When? How? (I sound like Vinnie Barbarino) ;-) It hasn't been around in most of the other movies. Don't tell me that they are doing a wax job on him!! Eeeewww! I don't think so. I didn't notice anything other than the usual 10 Colin chest hairs. Do tell... Some favorite lines: -It had to do with your husband's nose Oooh, I forgot about that one. MAKING AN APPEARANCE (Marcia) I'm over here with the experienced droolers and feel *way* over my head in this room So there you are--glad you could join us. As long as you like Colin, you're not in over your head ;-) give him credit - with all that in front of him he looks in her eyes! "That's a Gentleman for you!" Oh I like the idea of his being a gentleman. I hadn't thought about it that way. I just assumed that he'd seen it so often that it didn't phase him ;-p Now I will have to scratch around this backwater and see if I can find a copy of V to beg, borrow or steal There's gotta be somewhere in Hawaii where you can scrounge up a copy. You really must see it, regardless of the unhappy end. He is just too charming for his own good. but we must suffer for art's sake and plunge in with mega-boxes of tissues ever at the ready for whatever moisture emanates from wherever. That was a good line Marcia--impressive drooling you've got going there pal ;-D SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'VE BEEN! (Renate) When I should have watched Valmont I've been busy creating my Firth page (snip) The names are supposed to MOVE! It was created in MSIE, but now I have heard that with Netscape they don't move, and about 90% of the effect is gone. Would like to know what you experienced with your browsers. Thanks. So that's what happened! When I viewed it at the office (Explorer) all the names were moving. BTW, I really liked how the white "Fitzwilliam Darcy" moved slower than everything else. Then I got home, looked again (in Netscape) and everything was stationery and flush left. :-( All this browser nonsense--they have a lot of nerve, screwing up your page like that! I could never warm up to Netscape and now I know why. I much prefer Explorer...it's only fault is that the html blink doesn't work. Anyway, I'm glad I got to see it the "right" way at the office. Looks good--I had no idea you were a closet geek. I'm impressed that you knew how to do this and that you found the time. Brava Signora! (Renate) Thank you, Nan, for converting the picture so beautifully! How do you like it? 'Twas a labor of love dearest (Colin. My scanner. Photoshop. It's been a great week!) He looks really good...if I had known you were working on a page I'd have gotten more creative. So, which photo of Colin would you like me to tackle next? :-) THE GHOST OF COUNT ALMASY REARS HIS UGLY HEAD Hey, this thing's gone mad. It's repeating my Purple Colin message over and over. I swear I have posted it only once. Same thing happened to me the other day. He just won't leave us alone. "I swear your honor, it was the software" ;-)

Okay, the Almasy Ghost is really starting to tick me off. I absolutely did not post Response #427. I sat down, turned everything on and there is was...again! Grrrrr ;-(

FEVER PITCH - different versions I'm in a hurry but I have to let you know: Just bought my FP tape today - and this is an edition with a "special 2 sided sleeve" featuring the "boy's side" (with Colin on the cover - and if you think the picture of the poster or the Australian flyer was strange, look at this), and the "girl's side" (with Ruth Gemmell, strange, too.). There were four copies in the shop, and each one somehow different. It took three of us to figure it out. There are: - a widescreen version with a cover "The boy's side" - a normal version with the same cover - a widescreen version with a cover "The girl's side" - a normal version with the same cover So take care that you buy the right version!

MAGNIFYING GLASS (Marcia) I am about to tackle the steps at Netherfield plus the pre-plunge stretch (from a distance) at the pond to check for evidence of shirttails or something more substantial. See, I knew you weren't far behind...;-p THE ACADEMIC (Bethan) The first comment I ever read about him was by Sue Birtwistle, the producer of P&P, (who must know him well), who said that he was "quiet, sweet and academic". I read all the same interviews as everyone else, but I don't think they really give you an accurate reflection of his eloquence or charm. The only televised Colin interview I've ever seen is the tiny little piece from Making of P&P. He certainly seems to be all those things that Sue Birtwistle mentioned. It's not anyone who can use phrases like "utterly and unreasonably dismissive" in everyday conversation without sounding haughty or obnoxious. Then again, it could just be the magnificent voice ;-p FEVER PITCH - THE VIDEO (Nan) There was a rumor about Spring 98 :-( (Karen)Don't frown. ATA will probably beat it to the video stores and then we can fast forward past all that crumby story stuff to the good parts. Not that there are many of those either, but I'll take what I can get ;-) KEEPSAKES (Marcia) BTW, may I claim a lap robe from one of his many carriages? Pleeeeeeeeeease? Marcia, please see the Keepsake board (topic #53) for this answer.

MYSTERY MAN Oh drats, I checked through my boxes of junk rescued from the basement of my parents house to see what I could find of my adolescent crushes. All the Beatles stuff was there, as well as the James Dean, but no Christopher Jones. I thought that I might be able to somehow get it scanned in so that you could see what he looked like, but.... I've checked all over the Internet to no avail. Your best bet is to rent Ryan's Daughter or Three in the Attic (he looked really good in that one, but the story is pr tty lame about two women who keep him locked in an attic, actually that doesn't sound too bad)--if they are available on video.

FEVER PITCH - THE VIDEO COVER (Arami and Renate) Didn't even recognise him on the cover! He doesn't look like himself, he doesn't even look like Paul Ashworth! I must say that I think that the whole marketing concept behind the cover is weird! Rather silly, really. Why not just use one of the many attractive shots of Paul and Sarah from the actual movie. But he certainly can manage to look different. Even in Nostromo, TEP amd FP. the changes are quite striking. And what colour is his hair, naturally? Fair, mid-brown, dark brown, dark,vermillion? I've gi en up!!!

I DONNO WHAT TO SAY (Zaher) Can someone help me? Zaher, all you have to do is talk about Colin, himself, his movies, anything really. Or you can pick up on what the rest of us are saying. We usually use bold subject headings to make things clearer and italics if we are quoting from earlier messages. But it's not necessary! Just go ahead and say what you think!

Nan, where are your cats? + + +

After three trips to London, which were wonderful in *almost* every way, I just discovered Darcy found it even more enjoyable than I. Wish he'd written a guide book if it was that good for him =) I sure hope that didn't starch those shirttails. If that were the case it explains his irritability and perhaps those contours. ....I hope they didn't discover starch till way later!

QUESTION TO SYLVIA / TIL SCHWEIGER (Karen) Hi!! Since you mentioned you are in Germany, I was just wondering about Til Schweiger (forgive the spelling)? Is it true that he is considered Germany's answer to Tom Cruise? Who said that? ! ????? I am all astonishment! What can they mean? The reason I ask is that I just saw his new movie called "Knocking on Heaven's Door" and he was there to answer questions since he was also the producer. How did you like it/him? Personally, I didn't see any resemblance Nor do I. I would rather compare him to Brad Pitt. except in that they are both kind of stocky. TS stocky? I always thought he is rather tall, but I may be wrong. Is it the kind of roles he is in? He became a star in Germany with comedies. I wondered all the time when he would be recognised outside of Germany. I think he has the potential to become an international star, like Antonio Banderas, f.e. INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE Remake? Speaking of AB, BP and TC. There is just "Interview with a Vampire" on the tv - I like all actors but one. It is one of those films which would improve TREMENDOUSLY (cannot be shouted out loud enough!) with guess who as Lestat........... Renate's homepage (Sylvia) I hope you can conquer the problem with Netscape. (Very selfish wish, because Netscape is the only browser I have.) As far as I know, Netscape just cannot do it. I suppose you cannot see the 3 cats move? What about downloading MSIE? FEVER PITCH Spent the evening so far with my new FP tape - there are many scenes for walk/run drooling in this - besides others! COLIN CHAMELEON? Bethan, I did not forget your promise to reveal CF's middle name...... what about it?

SHE IS A GEEK AFTER ALL! Nan, where are your cats? Oh honey, you're picking up steam now...:-D I first viewed it in Netscape (where my chat font is enabled)--I was wondering what was so funny. The + sign in chat font is "lol" -- something told me that's not what you meant ;-p So I went in through Explorer and voila' , the plus signs were moving...groovy! :-) But now that I've read your comment to Sylvia ( I suppose you cannot see the 3 cats move? ) I'm a little confused...are they supposed to be graphics of cats or plus signs? Please 'splain ho ey. Either way, I'm just tickled it moves...;-)

Nan, where are your cats? Yes, where are they? I have to apologize. The "+" signs are cats only when you have the respective software residing on your pc (Corel Draw 5). I thought everyone would see thess, because I could see them. Amy explained why it cannot work. Don't know if the following will work. But if so, everyone here can make a marquee by copying the source code and putting in their own text. Let me know if you want to know more. + + +

No, that was not at all what I wanted. LOL! Had another text in mind. More Colin related. OK, I have to work on it a bit off public.

(zaher) i donno what to say can someone help me I am still new to this stuff:)))) Welcome zaher :-) Feel free to comment on any of the conversations that you see on this board (or any of the others for that matter). Since you found your way here I assume you're a Colin Firth fan. So let's start at the beginning...how did you find us and how did you discover Colin? INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE Remake? (Renate) Speaking of AB, BP and TC. There is just "Interview with a Vampire" on the tv - I like all actors but one. It is one of those films which would improve TREMENDOUSLY (cannot be shouted out loud enough!) with guess who as Lestat........... You come up with the best roles for him Renate...I'm convinced that you've missed your calling. ;-p Colin would make an excellents Lestat--all sexiness he is, though not blonde...

INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE Remake? (Nan) You come up with the best roles for him Renate...I'm convinced that you've missed your calling. ;-p Colin would make an excellents Lestat--all sexiness he is, though not blonde... I guess that would be the smallest problem for our dear boy....:-)) Have we ever seen him really BLOND? Might be interesting. Probably we would see a blond man smouldering, after all. Come to think of it: Why would Lestat have to be blond?

TIL SCHWEIGER: GERMANY'S ANSWER TO TC?? (Renate) Who said that? ! ????? I am all astonishment! What can they mean? It was in the Film Fest booklet that described all the movies being shown. Evidently, the person who wrote it didn't know what he or she is talking about. However, it intrigued me enough to want to go see it!! How did you like it/him? Let's see, the movie was pretty good. A road movie about two terminally ill cancer patients. "Pulp Fiction" meets "Thelma and Louise." Have you seen it? TS stocky? I always thought he is rather tall, but I may be wrong. I don't mean that he is short, but solidly built a la TC. Not the lean and mean type. I wondered all the time when he would be recognised outside of Germany. I think he has the potential to become an international star, like Antonio Banderas, f.e. His movie was shown at a film festival, so whether he achieves large scale reknown, who knows?? He did mention that he just finished doing an American movie, so maybe the unveiling will occur shortly. Banderas was in lots of Spanish movies (Aldomovars--spelling???), but most Americans wouldn't have had a clue as to who he was until Hollywood cast him in something. Sorry, but most Americans view subtitled movies as too much work and won't even make the effort!! So sad for us. Interesting though...at t e end of "Knocking," when Rutger Hauer shows up, they speak English.

THE PATIENT ENGLISHMAN I like this! As long as he doesn't have to wait 18 years! Eight-ee-en years!! But he still hasn't had the opportunity to realise his FULL potential on screen. HIS MIDDLE NAME Oh well, I was going to do some bartering here, his middle name for his shoe size (Arami?) but I've got a very weak hand! There's an entry for Colin in Debrett's People of Today, which lists 30,000 plus prominent people in the UK today - a mixture of lawyers, academics, politicians, writers, people from the arts. 95% have middle names, 95% have "recreational interests". Colin has neither. Draw your own conclusion! He has no middle name, he has no hobbies, he doesn't like his middle name, he didn't submit ull details... There you are, not worth his shoe size! OLIVIER Marcia, in "Lost Empires" (details on The Friends of Firth site) a youmg Colin takes the lead and one of the character roles is played by Laurence Olivier. So they would have acted together. Someone suggested that Colin would be ideal to play the part of Olivier, if ever they make a biopic about him. What do you think? TROUSERS Are the grey corduroys he wears in FP the same ones he wore in Master of the Moor? (He wore both brown and grey cords). They look similar but shabbier! DARCY/COLIN Interesting to read in the other thread (59) how Darcy fans convert to Colin, usually via AMITC. The eyes don't change, nor does the way he moves. It's fascinating to see in FP - even when he moves all of five yards from the sofa to the kitchen, he still looks as though he's heading for Rosings!

CF Alert!!! - Tumbledown on Canadian Vision TV Thanks to a friend I got the following information: Tumbledown - the most sought after rarity of all Colin Firth films, and one of if his best - will be on the Canadian 'Vision TV', on Thursday, Nov 6, at 8:30 pm ET and 1:30 am ET. Vision TV has also a web page, URL to follow. Set all VCR's available!

HIS MIDDLE NAME (Bethan) Oh well, I was going to do some bartering here, his middle name for his shoe size (Arami?) but I've got a very weak hand! That's a fair trade: no middle name for no shoe size..... :-)) He has no middle name, he has no hobbies, he doesn't like his middle name, he didn't submit ull details... There you are, not worth his shoe size! Ehhh - I'm confused. PS: "dull" or "full"? TROUSERS (Bethan) Are the grey corduroys he wears in FP the same ones he wore in Master of the Moor? (He wore both brown and grey cords). They look similar but shabbier! You are not the first one to suspect him to wear his old favourite clothes on screen whenever he can :-)) BTW, there is one scene in FP I love in particular: he is with Sarah in the kitchen, and he draws his baggy and apparently too wide trousers up, and pulls his shirt down - such a nice and untheatrical gesture. Did anyone recognise it too?

OLD CRUSHES, cont. (Nan)I think I'm over the boyishly cute thing (Shaun, etc.) and have moved on to "masculine" and sometimes even "brutish" (you listening Marilyn?) ;-p Yes, dearest, I'm listening and in total agreement - nothing boyish about that beast!! ;-) COLIN AND RALPH... (Karen) What??? You like small, beady eyes??? Not for me. Give me big eyes that you could drown in, big pondlike eyes!!! How's that? ;-)) (Nan)Oh but the color Karen, the color! BTW, I never thought his eyes were beady. Nope, I'm afraid you won't be able to discourage my hormones on this one. He's not my first choice, but he's in the top 10. ;-) I've gotta preface my Ralph comments by admitting I wanted to see TEP again to drool over both men, that I slobbered over the recent "Los Angeles Magazine" Ralph cover and article (thanks for the tip, Alicia!), and that I swooned over his Heathcliff last night in Wuthering Heights. As much as I'd prefer to swim in Colin's chocolate pools (they're gooood, aren't they Karen?) - I'd take a dip in Ralph's beautiful baby blues any day!! ;-) VALMONT Colin is such a yummy and mischievous Valmont (Malkovich repulses me) - I adore those naughty smiles and twinkling eyes. As much as I don't like MT, I do love some of their scenes together - how he sweeps her up on the horse and then later in his bedroom. I liked seeing him dance (could he be more anti-Darcy??). I want him most when he's composing letters and brooding (the rejection) - yeah, Nan, Colin needed some lovin'!! NOSTROMO What is it about Colin and wet shirts?? Where are you, Megan?? I've only seen the first two hours, and that took me three hours with all the rewinding over and over to see him all wet and hungry in the silver mine!! ;-) WUTHERING HEIGHTS & BABY BROTHERS I hadn't seen Jonathan Firth in anything until last night - in spite of his minimal role as Heathcliff's sickly son, you can see some Colin in him - he's very adorable.

Oh yes! Bethan, you're a genius for suggesting CF playing LO in a Biopic. They're bound to make one with all of the too juicy stuff with Vivien Leigh. but I will about drool myself to a shrivel! No divided loyalties here. Just hunker down with the buckets and towels and...........!SIGH!

Have there been any known drownings on the CF rooms? It has been a close call at times. Has anyone gone blind?! Just curious..

WUTHERING HEIGHTS & BABY BROTHERS (Marilyn)I hadn't seen Jonathan Firth in anything until last night - in spite of his minimal role as Heathcliff's sickly son, you can see some Colin in him - he's very adorable. Ah, so he played the sickly son. I thought he played Hareton's son. Oops. I'll have to fast forward to the part when he shows up.

SEXIEST MAN ALIVE I'm a little swamped at present ladies, so my drooling will have to wait. However, I have to take time to give you the following link so that you can vote for People Online's Sexiest Man Alive. Currently Brad Pitt is leading with 42 votes--this will not do...make haste ladies: http://www.pathfinder.com/people/sp/sma97/smapoll/index.html Go to it! ;-)

FIRST IDOLS (LorieS) Shameful but true..I had a bad crush on Jack Lord (of Hawaii 5-0 ame)... (SylviaH)Lorie, I'm so happy that I'm not alone with this problem. Today I really don't know what attracted me! But things are getting worse. JL is the reason for a creepy experience with CF because my first thought after seeing the picture in USA Today, May 19, 1996 was: there he looks like... I don't dare to finish the sentence. (I guess the hair-style is the crucial point.) All we can say is that our taste has improved since then! Thanks for posting, Sylvia! I was afraid I was the only person who ever thought that man was attractive! Everyone else here is politely ignoring me (which is much better than posting hoots of laughter at my past taste). Lorie

(LorieS) I remained out of the topic of Jack Lord because he was so special to you and not very special for those of us who live where he worked. I don't like to disillusion people about their first crushes. However, just so you know we care that you liked him (while I was adoring Olivier), over here (Hawaii) he was referred to as Jack Lord God Almighty (sorry !) due to him imperious air. HE was the star and don't you forget it. Perhaps one can be too close to some people!

First Idols (LorieS) Everyone else here is politely ignoring me (which is much better than posting hoots of laughter at my past taste). Yes, I appreciate that very much. Polite ignorance is a virtue indeed! (Marcia) I don't like to disillusion people about their first crushes. Don't worry, in this case the disillusion has already taken place. DARCY/COLIN (Bethan) Interesting to read in the other thread (59) how Darcy fans convert to Colin, usually via AMITC. The eyes don't change, nor does the way he moves. I'm on the edge of buying the video of AMITC. On the edge because I'm still suffering from a moustache shock after viewing COF. But all I need is a little more encouragement, a little push rep. It's fascinating to see in FP - even when he moves all of five yards from the sofa to the kitchen, he still looks as though he's heading for Rosings! Sometimes in FP Colin looks like Darcy in Jeans, with a light beard (no problems with that) and a gorgeous leather jacket. My favourite picture is the Guardian picture on the FoF site! The scene in which he wants to leave his flat during the last Arsenal game but can't do it and paces behind the sofa reminds me very much of Darcy, especially the look when he realizes that Sarah rang the doorbell. BTW, did they put soap on the step at the front door or is it made of slippery marble? Colin's tries very hard to keep his balance after rushing done to see Sarah and it doesn't look naturally to me. New pictures Yesterday I found pictures of the TEP premiere in Los Angeles at the FoF's site. Colin looks different on each of them, varying between something like "what am I doing here?" and an ernest, focused look (perhaps writing something). Hair color Even if his hair isn't dyed, his hair color on pictures depends on the light and I think on the length of his hair. The only chance to find out is a visit to Hackney! Now I'm going to vote for the sexiest man alive!

HIS MIDDLE NAME (Renate) He has no middle name, he has no hobbies, he doesn't like his middle name, he didn't submit What are we to make of that?? Wants his privacy, perhaps?? TROUSERS Since trouser color has surfaced again, I thought I would tell you the results of my scientific analysis of P&P (remember the theory about light colored pants????) If they are as dark as the ones Darcy frequently wears, then there is absolutely no way you can see anything, make heads or tails of any sausage stuffing contests, etc. But there is another factor out there. The existence of flapless pants. Several of the pairs of pants (full length type, not the breeches sort) appear to have no flaps. Th refore, they are flatter and smoother against the ab section. Any and all lumps are quite evident, even if the slacks are of a darker dove grey color. Oh my I've spent way too much time inventorying the pants wardrobe of both CF and CBC. BTW, there is a definite stuffed look for him that was not left on the cutting room floor. One is when he gets up from the dining table at Netherfield when Lizzy enters the room after checking on Jane. Another one is the "what" scene (not in the edited A&E version) and Bingley is standing next to Georgiana at the piano. He looks stuffed on both sides!!! I think he pulled out all the stops to win the contest with CF in that one!! OLD CRUSHES, cont. (Nan) I think I'm over the boyishly cute thing (Shaun, etc.) and have moved on to "masculine" and sometimes even "brutish" (you listening Marilyn?) ;-p (Marilyn) Yes, dearest, I'm listening and in total agreement - nothing boyish about that beast!! ;-) Well, my growth has certainly been stunted. I've always be attracted to the same type when it came to crush material. Real world, that's different!! COLIN AND RALPH... (Marilyn) As much as I'd prefer to swim in Colin's chocolate pools (they're gooood, aren't they Karen?) - I'd take a dip in Ralph's beautiful baby blues any day!! ;-) So far RF has not been in one role that has caused me to change my mind. As far as Wuthering Heights??? No way, Josefina!! That's Sir Larry's domain and shall always be (of course, I haven't seen the Timothy Dalton version, so I reserve judgment. VALMONT (Marilyn) Colin is such a yummy and mischievous Valmont (Malkovich repulses me) - I adore those naughty smiles and twinkling eyes. Isn't that true about Malkovitch. One can't be sympathetic to his Valmont. CF's adorableness made his Valmont likeable and you felt sorry for him in the end, much more so than AB (she got hers alright). He's got so many smiles as well, from that naughty one to pure playfulness when he is fencing with Cecile outside. I think his reactions are just priceless!! how he sweeps her up on the horse Should we vote? Is this everyone's favorite romantic scene of the movie?? Oh to be sitting in his lap as the horse goes up and down and up and down. Whoa, I've got to cool down here!!! ;-p I liked seeing him dance Perhaps, we could submit his name for "Dirty Dancing, Part 2" ??? CASUALTIES IN THE WAR ON DROOL (Marcia)Have there been any known drownings on the CF rooms? Has anyone gone blind?! You might want to review your insurance policy's coverage. BTW, CF does a LO in a P&P2 scene that was snipped out of the A&E run. So start eating those beans and whatever so you can get the other one (too bad you didn't tape it off of the Classroom showing which I did because it had the other 18 or so minutes. The scene you need to look for is after the Meryton Assembly when the group is back at Netherfield and Darcy makes his comment about Mrs. B being a wit. There's a little more that A&E decided to snip out. They talk about how wicked his comment is and th n Mrs. Hurst boldly says (in jest) "I am not afraid of you" to Darcy. His reply is "I would not have you so" and he does this in a really foppy voice that sounds just like Olivier. SEXIEST MAN ALIVE I have voted, my dear. As they say in my hometown, vote early and often. I shall follow that dictum. FIRST IDOLS (LorieS) Everyone else here is politely ignoring me (which is much better than posting hoots of laughter at my past taste). You're so right. It was the hair. That greased back look, arghhh!!! To each his own. DARCY/COLIN (Sylvia) On the edge because I'm still suffering from a moustache shock after viewing COF. I've found that he looks better with a full beard than he does with a moustache. He has a full beard (all caveman-like) in Hostages and I think he looks pretty scrumptious in that one. But a moustache alone, like in COF and AMITC, just doesn't do it for me. Clean shaven or full caveman--that's the ticket!! Nothing in between. New pictures (Sylvia) Yesterday I found pictures of the TEP premiere in Los Angeles at the FoF's site. Colin looks different on each of them, varying between something like "what am I doing here?" and an ernest, focused look (perhaps writing something). Hmmm, going to have to take a look!!! Thanks for the info. HAIR COLOR (Sylvia) Even if his hair isn't dyed (snip) The only chance to find out is a visit to Hackney! I think you have to get a little bit closer than just being in the same part of London!!!! ;-p MISC. This morning I found a flyer stuck in my door. Evidently, ER is going to be shooting some exterior shots tomorrow morning around the corner from where I live. I wonder who they will have hanging out in my neighborhood. Got my fingers crossed for George Clooney. I'll let you know who I see when I get back from my vacation sometime the week of Sept. 16. Bye for now.

INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE Remake? (Renate) I guess that would be the smallest problem for our dear boy....:-)) Have we ever seen him really BLOND? Might be interesting. As you know, I am very fond of the "Darcy" colored hair. I don't think I could ever get used to him if he was really blond. Come to think of it: Why would Lestat have to be blond? I have a vague recollection of Anne Rice being all bent out of shape because Tom Cruise was chosen for the Lestat role. This was not only because she was thinking of someone entirely different, but because she insisted that Lestat must be blond. HIS MIDDLE NAME (Bethan) He has no middle name, he has no hobbies, he doesn't like his middle name, he didn't submit full details... There you are, not worth his shoe size! Bummer! I was waiting for that info too ;-p OLIVIER (Bethan) Someone suggested that Colin would be ideal to play the part of Olivier, if ever they make a biopic about him. What do you think? Oh how perfect! Who can we harass to both make the film and cast Colin? DARCY/COLIN (Bethan) The eyes don't change, nor does the way he moves. It's fascinating to see in FP - even when he moves all of five yards from the sofa to the kitchen, he still looks as though he's heading for Rosings! LOL! I love that sort of long-stride strut, mixed with the Darcy arrogance. Very, very sexy ;-) VALMONT (Marilyn) I want him most when he's composing letters and brooding (the rejection) I think I mentioned to you before that I would be more than happy to let HIM write the letter...;-p CPR (Marcia) Have there been any known drownings on the CF rooms? It has been a close call at times. Has anyone gone blind?! Just curious.. We have, on occasion, be known to gasp for air...but usually we get to eachother before the victim collapses altogether... SEXIEST MAN ALIVE Did everyone vote? Here's the link again if anyone missed it: http://www.pathfinder.com/people/sp/sma97/smapoll/index.html AMITC (Sylvia) I'm on the edge of buying the video of AMITC. On the edge because I'm still suffering from a moustache shock after viewing COF. But all I need is a little more encouragement, a little push rep. So, what can we say to encourage you? ;-) Personally, it's one of my favorite--for sheer acting. I can't say I like the moustache very much either, but he's not to be drooled over in that film anyway...just sympathized with ;-) TROUSERS (Karen) Another one is the "what" scene (not in the edited A&E version) and Bingley is standing next to Georgiana at the piano. He looks stuffed on both sides!!! I think he pulled out all the stops to win the contest with CF in that one!! I can't say I ever noticed that one! Gotta go look--what a hoot! ;-D VALMONT (Marilyn) Colin is such a yummy and mischievous Valmont (Malkovich repulses me) - I adore those naughty smiles and twinkling eyes. Isn't that true about Malkovitch. One can't be sympathetic to his Valmont. CF's adorableness made his Valmont likeable and you felt sorry for him in the end, much more so than AB (she got hers alright). He's got so many smiles as well, from that naughty one to pure playfulness when he is fencing with Cecile outside. I think his reactions are just priceless!! I'm jumping on the anti-Malkovich Valmont bandwagon by saying that he just gives me the shivers (an not good ones either). CF's Valmont is so much more endearing and therefore, charming--a quality which Valmont absolutely must possess. (Karen) Should we vote? Is this everyone's favorite romantic scene of the movie?? Oh to be sitting in his lap as the horse goes up and down and up and down. Whoa, I've got to cool down here!!! ;-p LOL! :-D Let's see...I like the "yes" scene (but that's really more about MT's delivery--her only shining moment). I also like the one where he visits AB and asks her if she thinks a man can change. TO BEARD OR NOT TO BEARD (Karen) I've found that he looks better with a full beard than he does with a moustache. Agreed! I particularly like the Nostromo beard.

COLIN TO PLAY MR DARCY AGAIN Now, that's got your attention! The current runaway bestseller in the UK bookcharts (for the last 3 months) is "Bridget Jones' Diary" by Helen Fielding. Very, very funny. About a 30 something single girl in London who has a hate/love relationship with a rich successful barrister (lawyer) who at first seems very aloof, but turns out to be warm, caring etc. The lawyer is called Mark Darcy and is rather similar to another Mr D! To confuse things further, Bridget also has a crush on Mr Darcy in the P&P TV movie. Report in The Daily Telegraph says that Colin is to play the modern Darcy in a movie to be made by Working Title (they made Moonlight and Valentino, Bean, many others). I loved the book, and rather liked Mark Darcy (actually thought of Colin when I read it!). Good choice for him.. shows he has a nice sense of humour! Colin Firth as Mr Darcy, 1990s version!

COLIN TO PLAY MR DARCY AGAIN (Bethan) Report in The Daily Telegraph says that Colin is to play the modern Darcy. I loved the book, and rather liked Mark Darcy (actually thought of Colin when I read it!). Good choice for him.. shows he has a nice sense of humour! Colin Firth as Mr Darcy, 1990s version! How reliable is this "Daily Telegraph"??? Much as I/we would all like him to reprise his role as Darcy, I find it a little unbelievable, given all the comments he made about the "stir" he caused playing Darcy the first time. Well, here's hoping it's true. A modern Darcy...a Regency Darcy....who cares!!! A Darcy for all ages!! And with CF??? A no brainer. VALMONT (Marilyn) I want him most when he's composing letters and brooding (the rejection) Writing is definitely his strong suit!!!

(Marcia-MarSea) I remained out of the topic of Jack Lord because he was so special to you and not very special for those of us who live where he worked. I don't like to disillusion people about their first crushes. However, just so you know we care that you liked him (while I was adoring Olivier), over here (Hawaii) he was referred to as Jack Lord God Almighty (sorry !) due to him imperious air. LMAO, Marcia! That's a hoot. When I've watched the shows recently, in re-runs, that's part of what I find so off-putting about him. Of course, it's just a gawdawful show, but his attitude is pretty stuck-on-himself. (Marcia) Perhaps one can be too close to some people! Oh, definitely. While I like to believe the best about people I admire, sometimes just reading an article and hearing how dopey someone sounds can make me an ex-drooler. But as for JL, don't worry, Marcia. Today you can say anything bad about him, and I'll laugh and believe it. But when I was 10 or so-- Well, maybe as a kid I had an authority fixation or something. (KarenR) Writing is definitely his strong suit!!! His "suit" could be improved only if he were as unclothed as his paper!

COLIN TO PLAY MR DARCY AGAIN (Bethan) ....... "Bridget Jones' Diary" by Helen Fielding. Very, very funny. (Bethan) Report in The Daily Telegraph says that Colin is to play the modern Darcy. I loved the book, and rather liked Mark Darcy (actually thought of Colin when I read it!). Good choice for him.. shows he has a nice sense of humour! Colin Firth as Mr Darcy, 1990s version! (Karen) How reliable is this "Daily Telegraph"??? Much as I/we would all like him to reprise his role as Darcy, I find it a little unbelievable, given all the comments he made about the "stir" he caused playing Darcy the first time. Well, here's hoping it's true. I agree with you that it is very unlikely to see him do *that* Mr Darcy again - but a Darcy spoof, why not. Kind of exorcism. :-)) Though I am only halfway through the book, I think Mark Darcy's is rather a cameo role in terms of quantity of appearance. . The book is very funny indeed, and I find it a kind of counterpart to Nick Hornby's Fever Pitch. I hope the DT report is correct. VALMONT (Marilyn) I want him most when he's composing letters and brooding (the rejection) (Karen) Writing is definitely his strong suit!!! I like him even better at dictation ;-))

COLIN TO PLAY DARCY How reliable is the Daily Telegraph? (Karen) Very reliable, I would say. It's in the Peterborough column.I quote: "Now, I learn, the book's author Helen Fielding has been telling friends that Firth is to play Darcy (the modern one) in the forthcoming film of her work...fans of both Darcys are confident their hopes will be rewarded. I think that Mark Darcy is rather a cameo role in terms of appearance (Renate) Renate, if you've only read the first half so far, he figures much more strongly in the second half. (I say "only read" - that was incredibly quick off the mark!! Were you already reading it? Telepathic?) I also think that when the book is scripted as a film, it will obviously have to be condensed, and will focus on a few main characters, so that a lot of the incidental comic episodes (in which Mark Darcy doesn't figure) may be pruned/cut. Although arguably, there are long stretches in P&P in which Darcy is absent! BTW (and it IS a very funny book) did you find quite a few parallels with P&P - harebrained mother, refusal to dance, even a Miss Bingley figure!!? The book is a counterpart to Nick Hornby's FP More to Nick Hornby's "High Fidelity". Also very funny. Anyway, I think that Mark Darcy is a very good role for CF, although decidedly tongue in cheek! I look forward to seeing him as a smart, rich (but nice!} lawyer. I like him scruffy, but am also quite partial to him in a dinner jacket!

Fever Pitch (Renate) BTW, there is one scene in FP I love in particular: he is with Sarah in the kitchen, and he draws his baggy and apparently too wide trousers up, and pulls his shirt down - such a nice and untheatrical gesture. So has this movie ever been shown in the US? The Renate gesture sounds very endearing. NOSTROMO What is it about Colin and wet shirts?? ... took me three hours with all the rewinding over and over to see him all wet and hungry in the silver mine!! ;-) Talk about wet and hungry, how about with the coal mine and Rose? Perfect casting in those scenes.... ROSE (Karen) "He shifted on his side to make the physiological fact less evident. Rose washed around the bruise on his hip" (Karen)Wrong direction, dear!! Do you need glasses??? (Nan) Oh I hope not ;-p (Karen)Her, not him. (Nan)That's what I meant--if she needs glasses to notice then we're in trouble here ;-p Needing glasses? NEVER!! Unless seeing through slightly soapy water is like seeing through frosted glass; maybe there's something in the water...or the wine...do you think French grapes improve one's eyesight? AMITC (KarenR) But a moustache alone, like in COF and AMITC, just doesn't do it for me. Oh, but he was just SO CUTE in AMITC. BTW, cuteness is fine before age 35 (CF must have been about 27 when AMITC was made.) After that I find it's a turn-off, which is why George Clooney has no appeal at allfor me. CF is maturing in a very scrumptious way. (I've already used edible, yummy and delectable in the past. Had to find a new word.)

Essay Contest (Renate) That thingie you mention must be The Infamous Watch and Fob, Arami's Keepsake. And, yes, it has a story of it's own, AND an essay..... Just want to seize the opportunity to remind that there's still the Keepsake Essay Contest pending.... I am still thinking on "What the Mirror saw" :-)) Just where are these essays? I checked the Keepsake topic; did I miss something in there? I Only Have Eyes For Him (Arami)Nowadays I seem to be the only Colin fan who doesn't care much about other actors. (Bethan)I am very telescopic in my obsession - only HIM! And I won't change my loyalties. You can include me in this boat(tub?), too. All Time Favorite Line (Nan)Yooo-hooo, Colin--come push me against the frozen peas...;-) OK, so it isn't from a movie, but all this drool stuff could be made into a movie, perhaps a documentary: how to dissect every move an actor makes, how he can show emotion and intent by slight changes in expression, the effects of the movements of a certain actor on a segment of his audience .... Valmont I actually DID like this movie, except for Annette Bening (overkill on the vicious simpering) and Meg Tilly (didn't seem to fit in there) and the main storyline (the idea of seducing the little girl before her wedding). Other than THAT, the movie was fun and CF was just wonderful! Yes, I am now sold on those smiles, though I'm tempted to say that "he smiles too much", but I know that was the script. MY favorite line: (at breakfast) "And Ma-ma' will have a HUGE scandal on her hands!" I keep rewi ding to hear how he says "huge", it's just so cute! I shouldn't take these films so seriously; gosh, I know they're just stories, but I keep thinking about that poor little girl; I'm sure Valmont was very tender with her, but what about her wedding night with that pig, who's obsessed not with her but with the idea of purity, and she's pregnant already, no less? I have to make my own ending to this; she goes to live with Valmont's old aunt and has a baby boy who inherits the aunt's estate when she dies. BTW, my movie book says that the aunt really did die shortly after the film was made. And, that cute harp teacher is really Elliot from ET!! He really did turn out well. Wonder what he's doing now?

how he says "huge", it's just so cute! He has a special way with his u's, he sort of wraps his lips around them...

BRIDGET JONES' DIARY / COLIN TO PLAY DARCY (Bethan) Renate, if you've only read the first half so far, he figures much more strongly in the second half. I just came to the scene where he appears again at the Not-tart-and-vicars party. I think there is a bit of Frederick Wentworth in that gesture how he helps her out of an embarrassing/uncomfortable situation. It reminded me a lot of that scene when FW takes away that little boy from her back when she is nursing the other boy. (Bethan) (I say "only read" - that was incredibly quick off the mark!! Were you already reading it? Telepathic?) I bought it some two weeks ago, read a recommendation somewhere in RoP or Firthland... I also think that when the book is scripted as a film, it will obviously have to be condensed, and will focus on a few main characters, so that a lot of the incidental comic episodes (in which Mark Darcy doesn't figure) may be pruned/cut. BJD it is very funny written, but the story and scenes are not at all funny in themselves. So I think it would have to be pretty thouroughly re-created to make a funny film. BTW (and it IS a very funny book) did you find quite a few parallels with P&P - harebrained mother, refusal to dance, even a Miss Bingley figure!!? It is particularly refreshing how Fielding does NOT try to follow the P&P storyline, and if there are resemblances they are VERY casual and unobtrusive. I make a guess: it was not written with the purpose of a P&P resemblance in mind, but the opportunity probably turned out later .......... I keep on wondering about the names, if there are some hidden hints in it. Daniel is Wickham, no doubt, but there is also a character named 'Wicksy'. Ok, final review when finished. The book is a counterpart to Nick Hornby's FP More to Nick Hornby's "High Fidelity". Also very funny. You are so right! I read some chapters only of both books, and mixed it up. Response 461 of 462: Claudia Braden (Claudia) * Fri, Nov 7, 1997 (14:58) * 28 lines Fever Pitch So has this movie ever been shown in the US? No. But it was for 3 days on the Vancouver Filmfestival. As far as I know an NTSC video version is planned for Canada - but no idea as to when. BEYOND DESCRIPTION? CF is maturing in a very scrumptious way. (I've already used edible, yummy and delectable in the past. Had to find a new word.) My favorite expressions when referring to his looks are "irresistible" and "devastatingly" charming. Anyone other words? Essay Contest (Renate) That thingie you mention must be The Infamous Watch and Fob, Arami's Keepsake. And, yes, it has a story of it's own, AND an essay..... Just want to seize the opportunity to remind that there's still the Keepsake Essay Contest pending.... I am still thinking on "What the Mirror saw" :-)) Just where are these essays? I checked the Keepsake topic; did I miss something in there? You cannot find them. Mine is not yet written (I'm still waiting for an hour when time and inspiration meet), but Arami's Infamous Essay was posted for a few hours only before it was deleted because it hurt the particularly high moral standards of that place...... we don't have such superior standards here :-))

BTW, I don't know if it's absolutely clear:THAT PLACE is the Republic of Pemberley site, whence we have been evacuated, since drooling doesn't become them.

COLIN TO PLAY MR DARCY AGAIN (lizbeth)The current runaway bestseller in the UK bookcharts (for the last 3 months) is "Bridget Jones' Diary" by Helen Fielding. Is this book available in the U.S.? I really do hope CF plays the modern Darcy. It would be a feast for my eyes and heart. Oh, oh, oh... I'm dying with impatience. I wonder how long it will take to make the film.

Don't die just yet - the whole thing is still in the sphere of wishful thinking...

COLIN TO PLAY MR DARCY AGAIN (Bethan)Report in The Daily Telegraph says that Colin is to play the modern Darcy in a movie to be made How wonderful is that?! ;-) I would love to get excited about this, but I fear I shall be setting myself up for a great disappointment. When I hear that he's signed the contract, that's when I'll rejoice. By the things I've read he seemed quite perplexed by the popularity of his Darcy and wanted no part of the P&P success (at least that's how it seemed to me). If that's true, I would be very glad to hear that he had moved past his initial wariness of it and is able to find humor in it no less. Excellent! I Only Have Eyes For Him (Arami)Nowadays I seem to be the only Colin fan who doesn't care much about other actors. (Bethan)I am very telescopic in my obsession - only HIM! And I won't change my loyalties. (Claudia) You can include me in this boat(tub?), too. Well I can't damn any of you for your loyalty, that's for sure! I'm afraid that my affection for Colin does nothing to dampen my hormonal urges when seeing other attractive men. Since they are all unattainable anyway, I might as well wish big ;-p All Time Favorite Line (Nan)Yooo-hooo, Colin--come push me against the frozen peas...;-) (Claudia) OK, so it isn't from a movie, but all this drool stuff could be made into a movie, perhaps a documentary LOL! So glad you like the line Claudia. And I think a documentary is an excellent idea. I believe Arami must do this...she can let loose all those pent up movie making juices of hers ;-) (Claudia) how to dissect every move an actor makes, how he can show emotion and intent by slight changes in expression, the effects of the movements of a certain actor on a segment of his audience .... Well we've certainly analyzed it enough. She'll not lack for material and witty comments. Whaddya say Arami? Valmont (Claudia) I shouldn't take these films so seriously; gosh, I know they're just stories, but I keep thinking about that poor little girl; Yes, you mustn't think about it that way--takes all the joy out of it. While it would be considered quite horrific right now, you must remember that the girls was about to get married. Therefore, she was considered old enough for sex. All in all, I'd say that there are worse ways of losin' it--it could have been at the hands of her husband ;-p I have to make my own ending to this; she goes to live with Valmont's old aunt and has a baby boy who inherits the aunt's estate when she dies. Works for me honey! ;-) DICTION (Arami) He has a special way with his u's, he sort of wraps his lips around them... Ooooh "wraps his lips around them"...*BIG SIGH* BEYOND DESCRIPTION? (Claudia) CF is maturing in a very scrumptious way. (I've already used edible, yummy and delectable in the past. Had to find a new word.) (Renate) My favorite expressions when referring to his looks are "irresistible" and "devastatingly" charming. Anyone other words? I like "alarmingly handsome", "deliciously wicked" (ref. to Valmont) and the ever popular "chocolate puddles"... Essay Contest (Claudia) Just where are these essays? I checked the Keepsake topic; did I miss something in there? (Renate) You cannot find them. Mine is not yet written (I'm still waiting for an hour when time and inspiration meet), I rely heavily on those of you who have the ability, because it's out of my realm. Let's see 'em ladies... but Arami's Infamous Essay was posted for a few hours only before it was deleted because it hurt the particularly high moral standards of that place...... we don't have such superior standards here :-)) At least we try very hard not to ;-) (Arami) BTW, I don't know if it's absolutely clear:THAT PLACE is the Republic of Pemberley site, whence we have been evacuated, since drooling doesn't become them. Actually, drooling becomes them quite well (and many there are most adept at it). They just don't do it in public very often, that's all. Personally, I thought the "Watch and Fob Essay" quite inspired and hysterically funny. However, it was out of the PG-13 realm...that was part of its charm. I've said it before and I'll say it again...I'd love to see it on the Keepsake board ;-)

I would like to see anything Arami has written before we became conversant. Is it possible to rerun it without being banned from the Internet forever? My curiosity is piqued....just as it peeked in the "undo the breeches...." or was that unto??? Anyway, please consider putting it on the Keepsake board.

You're talking a lot about me these days. I like that. Regarding film making, Nan, let me see the script firth. Or the script and Firth. Or let me get my hands on the script and Firth and I can promise you the film of films. Lights, camera, action! Ooooh, baby! No, the script wouldn't even be necessary - we'll improvise... two talented people that we are... ;-) As for the essay... yes, that can be arranged, too, I think, but I'll have you writhe at my feet and beg for a litte longer. In the meantime, Marcia, have you seen the Derbyshire Writers Guild at the RoP site? Mostly tame stuff, but there are some quite enjoyable pieces to do with P&P missing scenes there... including two or three very short sketches by yours truly.

Not so much about you, but with you. I'd like to apply for fly-on-the-wall status in the above endeavor. However, not one for group participation, might I take a turn (rehearsal, perhaps?) alone with Him? I'm a lady at all times.....Oh Yeah!!!!! Shall I bring my scissors? OooooooH.......AaaaaaaaaHaH! It has been some time since I have been to RoP's DWG. Now that I know you have something there I shall go straight away. I enjoy your writing and appreciate the suggestion.

Sorry, Marcia, no flies on our Colin...;-) But I'll let you have a go with the scissors if you promise to be EXTREMELY careful when you snip those buttons off (he'll be wearing Levi's with button flies for that scene...) I forgot to mention Renate's pieces in DWG whilst blowing my little trumpet. They are much more imaginative than mine. And longer. (I'm the master of the mini-essay, really...)

Oh! My dear! Button-flies? OOOOOOOoooooooh!........I was momentarily overcome with the very idea. You may be assured all he will feel is pleasure. I am very deft and adroit and clever. And I know all of the good things to do.....Whew, it's getting very warm in here....! He will be none the worse for my snipping, and when I tell him it was my pleasure snipping, he will reply that it was HIS pleasure!!!......I need to get something cool to press against my brow... (I'll not be a FLY when I am rehearsin !)

Golly, and all that with only a pair of scissors?

I told you I was clever! And, I have developed a vivid imagination through years of studious reading of the best sort. You should imagine what my adept fingers can do without scissors in them!!!!

Hello everyone!! I've been lurking here since the end of September. I couldn't find my way on and then I was away for awhile. But I have been having a droolingly great time enjoying your downright deliciously horny talk. Its time I dive in and add my drool to the pond. Call in the Red Cross, there may be some flooding! COLIN FIRTH, COLIN, COLIN, COLIN. Good God what a rush just saying his name. You are the only creatures I know who share this obsession. I am completely out of control, my family a d friends think I've lost my mind. Your talk of Colin's pants and their contents, his kissing, sex, the positions he uses most and just all the talk about his gorgeous face and his incredible edible body, let's me know I'm not alone. We may be hopelessly, pathetically out of our heads residing in Colin Heaven but at least we're not alone! You may wondered when I first fell in love with Colin. It was while watching P&P2 but it wasn't at first sight. When I first saw him it was like, "Hmm interesting". Then at Lucas Lodge when he commented on Elizabeth's "fine eyes" I thought, "Oh, he's cute." With each close-up of his gorgeous face I was falling deeper and deeper. Until the wet shirt scene, My God, I never felt like that or had such a physical reaction (I hope you know what I mean) to anyone other than my husband. It was really quite rightening. I thought "Oh My God, what's going on here!?" Then I was just hopelessly lost because what happened next--THE LOOK--. I swear to you my husband that night said, "Wow, what got into you, don't get me wrong it was great, but what happened?" The whole time I was thinking, "COLIN, COLIN, OH DEAR GOD, COLIN!!! OK, let me compose myself. Now, OK, PHEW!! I'm ready to continue. I've watched P&P2 almost 200 times and each time I find myself glaring at Colin's body, how he moves it and uses it. It just drives me wild! Its amazing how just standing there he can be thrilling. He uses everything he's got (and boy he's got everything) his eyes, his mouth, his hands (I have never taken notice of a man's hands before) his legs (you can imagine what I dream about them). You know what I think would be the ultimate fantasy? Virtual Reality! Can you just imagine if you could "be with" Colin and have him hold you and EVERYTHING!!! I have just enough sanity left to know that's the only way that would appen. But that would do, right? Sorry this was so long, but once those flood gates open--Watch out!

FLOODGATES Keep those flood gates open, Kath!!! And you don't need virtual reality. Your imagination has taken you there already!! COLIN TO PLAY DARCY AGAIN?? Don't die yet - the whole thing is still in the sphere of wishful thinking(Arami) More than that, I hope. So little news about Colin and his projects filters through to the press that when I do see something in print, I'm inclined to believe it. :-)

OOPS..FORGOT TO SAY Close scrutiny of FP has led me discover something we haven't drooled about yet (if that is possible!). He has very clear, smooth, almost transparent skin, so that more delicate skin hues and a very attractive 5 o'clock shadow always show through. (I'm confining my observations to his face).In marked contrast to the leathery perma-tans of most Hollywood stars. Something to be said for staying out of the LA sunshine!

I don't know what it is with 51 but it is weird today. Anyway, to the lady (no name on my computer)who just discovered how potent the feelings are that our Lovely Darcy/Colin awkens...my husband had the same reaction and offered to buy me several copies!! The feeling he (CF)(and my husband) arouses is almost visceral and I get the squinges every time I run the video - which is at least once daily. Besides that I have made several soundtrack audio tapes, one of which I am listening to right now. There ar in fact many flood-prone places and it is not due to El Ni�o! I previously had a silent computer without wallpaper. I now have Darcy-collage wallpaper, and all of the noises a computer event causes is from him. He says "You have to marry me" on quarter hours, his name on the hour, "Hangon,Hangon" whenever hit a function I'm not supposed to, etc. When I get mail he says "Hello there!" YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!! A true fellow drooler of the incurable sort.

Wow, ladies... I am positively revitalized! Wonderful! I thought Marcia was bold, but, oh, my, KATH! Welcome, fellow sufferer! Pour out your troubles... I fell in love with Darcy almost exactly in the same way, except that the wet shirt scene didn't register so strongly with me. Maybe I'm not so sensuous???;-) The Look, yes! And by the time of the second proposal I was his! Bethan - it's all very true about Colin's skin, except it's prone to minor blemishes. (Marcia, another imperfection!) We are lucky to have such understanding partners/husbands, too...

Oh, and Kath, have you found the Friends of Firth Official Page yet? Full of delicious photos, articles, info, numerous links... A must for a Firthfreak!

I have been lurking in RoP for several weeks and just found you all. I too love Colin, and I believe the Netherfield Ball sent me over the edge. It reminded me of Phantom of the Opera, (Michael Crawford only). It was so predatory. I was introduced to P&P2 in July of this year and have not been the same. I have watched P&P2 probably 300 times and have the tape set and laser discs. I have edited down my own tape of 2hrs15min. of just D&E, no mother, no Mr. Collins, no Wickham. I also have several other mo ies of his. Valmont, Nostromo, Apt. Zero, Advocate, of which I am trying to obtain the Euro version. I can not seem to get enough of him. I love his eyes, the intensity of that gaze- I could die and go to heaven. I was very disappointed with ATA, he was window dressing only. But he did look great in all those colored shirts, red, teal, purple, wow!! too bad they did not use his considerable talents. I have read all the Fanfic on RoP and at the Firth site, but they don't go far enough. They tend to leave me salivating for what next. Just thought I'd share!

KATH'S FLOODGATES (Kath) Its time I dive in and add my drool to the pond. Call in the Red Cross, there may be some flooding! COLIN FIRTH, COLIN, COLIN, COLIN. Good God what a rush just saying his name. You are the only creatures I know who share this obsession. I am completely out of control, my family and friends think I've lost my mind. LOL! You haven't lost your mind...we are all in the same boat. So glad you decided to come out of hiding. I just love that Colin enthusiasm...you are very welcome here. ;-) We may be hopelessly, pathetically out of our heads residing in Colin Heaven but at least we're not alone! Oh no, we're not alone at all. There are many Colin lovers out there...we're just the naughty ones ;-p Until the wet shirt scene, My God, I never felt like that or had such a physical reaction (I hope you know what I mean) Indeed we do. That scene is a beautiful, beautiful thing--the manly stride, shirt sticking to him, the collar open just enough to see is beauty marks, thick boots accenting his rock-like thighs. I swear to you my husband that night said, "Wow, what got into you, don't get me wrong it was great, but what happened?" The whole time I was thinking, "COLIN, COLIN, OH DEAR GOD, COLIN!!! LMAO! At least you didn't say it out loud (you didn't slip, did you?) ;-D Virtual Reality! Can you just imagine if you could "be with" Colin and have him hold you and EVERYTHING!!! I have just enough sanity left to know that's the only way that would happen. But that would do, right? You, woman, are a hoot! If this is the first message, I can't wait to see what kinky tales come out in the future. LOL! Good for you honey...you found the rest of us. ;-) MARCIA'S GETTING FRISKY The feeling he (CF)(and my husband) arouses is almost visceral and I get the squinges every time I run the video - which is at least once daily. LOL! "Squinges"--I love it ;-D I previously had a silent computer without wallpaper. I now have Darcy-collage wallpaper, and all of the noises a computer event causes is from him. He says "You have to marry me" on quarter hours, his name on the hour, "Hangon,Hangon" whenever hit a function I'm not supposed to, etc. When I get mail he says "Hello there!" Too funny! My incoming mail says the same thing. Of course, everyone in my office thinks I've finally fallen into the abyss...but they'll get over it. ;-) WELCOME STEFANIE (Stefanie) I have been lurking in RoP for several weeks and just found you all. I too love Colin, and I believe the Netherfield Ball sent me over the edge. It was the nail in the coffin for me...;-) It reminded me of Phantom of the Opera, (Michael Crawford only). You know, I missed seeing that one ;-( My mother swears he's the only phantom worth watching. . I have edited down my own tape of 2hrs15min. of just D&E, no mother, no Mr. Collins, no Wickham. Oh boy, you are in deep. Excellent! We love the obsessed here ;-D I can not seem to get enough of him. I love his eyes, the intensity of that gaze- I could die and go to heaven. Oh the big, dark, velvety pools...*sigh* I was very disappointed with ATA, he was window dressing only. But he did look great in all those colored shirts, red, teal, purple, wow!! too bad they did not use his considerable talents. Wasn't that a sin? Couldn't you just slap them? There was so much potential in that role too. ;-( I have read all the Fanfic on RoP and at the Firth site, but they don't go far enough. They tend to leave me salivating for what next. Just thought I'd share! Please, continue sharing...I'm loving this ;-D In terms of fan fic, there are some stories here at the Spring fan fic, but the juicy ones were removed at the request of the authors. Sorry ;-( Every so often a racy one pops up though, so stick around. Glad you found us. :-)

Oh wait a minute...I forgot some of the old stories at the Fan Fic board here...there are some quite interesting spicy things still on that board. There's one story in there in particular (by Carolyn) that I like very well and the comments are a riot! ;-) Go look: Spring Fan Fic

Arami, yes I have been a most attentive visitor to the Friends of Firth Page. I've copied photos from there and had them laminated and carry them with me always. I have some in my purse, my coat pocket and use them as bookmarkers. All throughout the day I take them out when I need a Colin fix and each and every time I get that pit of my stomach (Oh, yeah Colin baby you do it to me every time) sensation! I was thinking about my comment about Colin's hands. I guess I noticed his hands because I was ima ining what he could do with them! There is a scene in "Valmont" when he dictates the letter to the young girl on the bed. He plays with her legs and her derriere(politest word I could think of) caresses and kisses them so slowly and sensually, he lays his face on her and then he parts her legs!!!...I lose it everytime! That is my favorite love scene with my most delectable Colin! Of course, I haven't seen all of his films. But, the thought that there's even more delights waiting out there for me give me a most warm and tingling feeling! I hope I'm not being too out of line with my licentious thoughts and comments but I seem to lose all sense of decorum when it comes to my passion for my most beloved Colin!! Nan, I'd like to thank you personally for e-mailing me about this outrageous place, I'm sorry it took me so long to get here. No, I haven't called, yelled or screamed out Colin's name yet! Although I think I've moaned it nice and low and softly. Oh yeah, that I've done!!

my favorite love scene with my most delectable Colin Have you seen the lovemaking scene from Femme Fatale? We're talking almost hardcore here, and yet it's so well and tastefully done... Mmmmmmmmmmm.....

Just about the time I begin to feel warped and jaded with my constant Firthilizing, some lurkers come out of the beyond and give voice to what has happened the first time one of us (ME~!) got Darcy into focus. I was a victim of the Netherfield Ball but didn't know it till much later when I was pried off of the TV screen. (It took lots of soap and water.) I still get unglued and the pit-of-my-stomach thingy and palpitations when I go through the whole Pemberly episode. I often find that I've forgotten to breathe and my heart is pounding. Oh dear....I hope it never ends and that fresh droolers will continue to keep our lust ever brugeoning (or whatever).

Hey, guys, I'm a self-confessed cyberdumbo, so who's gonna tell me how you make your computer say things in Darcy's voice :-)?

I will tell you how I did it. I went to Marilyn's web page and downloaded all of the Darcy and CF .wav files into C:\windows. Then when you go into Control Panel in the Main program icon you will find Sounds. In there you highlight the function on the left (as in start Windows, exit Windows, default, question, asterisk,). Each time you have one highlighted on the left, go to the right side and chose the wav file you want then go to the next you can test them to be sure then hit the ok button and exi . You're in business with Good Sounds! If you use Eudora you can do the same under tools/attention/sound. Mine says "hello, there!" as in the Lambton Inn. If you choose "Come back to bed" be aware of who may overhear it! Hope that helps. http://www.ualberta.ca/~marilyn/wavpc.html http://www.ualberta.ca/~marilyn/wavnew.html

I've seen "Femme Fatale" and I enjoyed it immensely. BUT, my "Valmont" scene is still my favorite. I think watching Colin's foreplay is much more erotically stimulating(Oh Colin Baby OOOOH YES!!!) than watching the act itself. You can be much more versatile before than during. It makes me weak just thinking about it. I wonder if he was directed in that scene or if he improvised. I like to think he just did what he would normally do. Oh, the thought of it! I make myself crazy!! I wish I could put all those fabulous Colin things on my computer, but alas it's not just my computer. I share it with the 4 men in my life(5 if you count Colin) my husband and 3 sons. They would never go for it, they go nuts every time I put P&P2 on!

Hi Kathleen! I like (oh boy. DO I !) Colin as Darcy and clothed and smouldering. To me it is just plain embarassing for me to see him naked to the world where everyone can see him doing It. I much prefer the gauzy, ocean-crashing, sweeping music. The I can close my eyes and I am there! Foreplay is great, but no Doing It for me (to watch!). You are in the company of many crazed- by-the-very-sight-of-him Firthophiles. What we need is your Virtual-Firth - one at a time, I might add. I'm not into grou s for that, either. I share the computer just with Darcy/Firth and send Jpgs to my son to show him what he got me into when he bullied me into getting onto the Web. Now he just says he's glad if it makes me happy. My husband is thrilled with the smouldering repressed feelings in the movie because I take out my frustrations on him and it is GoooooooooooD! But, I never pretend it is Firth rather than a dear understanding husband. (That's sort of like cheating, isn't it?) I put P&P2 on an audio tape s I can run the video in my head when it isn't "convenient" to do my drooling in the Living room. But, when I can....and I get to bed very late some times.....I look v e r y hard at the man to engrave his fantastic self on my brain. Should make for a curious shaped wrinkle on the surface with all of the button snipping and contour investigation I've been doing.....whew....warm in here again! Sorry about the sounds - they really are lovely!

I've seen "Femme Fatale" and I enjoyed it immensely. BUT, my "Valmont" scene is still my favorite. No pun intended? That is a really different kind of scene. (I guess having little girls of my own made me dislike the plot; having kids sometimes changes how we feel about things. Beyond that, CF did a marvelous job.) (Marcia)But I never pretend it is Firth rather than a dear understanding husband. (That's sort of like cheating, isn't it?) Nahhhhhhhhh!!! Sounds The first time I downloaded those sounds, they disappeared after a short time and I discovered they had been saved in a cache file. So I downloaded them again and then copied them to a regular file. Works fine now. Saving Pictures Okay, so how do you save those great CF pictures on your hard drive. I have Win95. Bulge contest Re: the CBC vs. CF dual, the effect seems to be different on CBC, maybe because he doesn't have those long lean luscious legs that CF has; somehow whatever happened in the scenes mentioned (the "WOT?" scene and with Lizzie right after the "Her hair, Louisa!!" scene) makes CBC look kind of pudgy. Where is that wardrobe person? Must be spending too much time on CF at the expense of the rest of the boys!! Oh, but I must say, you're right (Marcia?), the officers beat everyone hands down. Those pants look ike form-fitting knits. Was that even invented in those days?

Oh, Claudia, You mean I can and it isn't? (Cheating, that is) All Riiiiiiiight. I refuse to admit that I am guilty anyway as that might incriminate me. =) Glad you have all the neat sounds now. Did you like CBC's wedding double-knits? No, they didn't have knitting that fine back then, but how the heck did they get those grey pants on CBC unless they used a paint roller?! Good grief, and what we see is after they modified him a bit so as not to be too obvious. Yeah! Sure. The problem with the officers' wadding is that it isn't defined. No good contours to follow. It's like it's stuffed with cottage cheese! Bulge isn't good till you can tell what's causing it! Now, how I save all those pix of CF: use the right hand mouse button. Put the pointer on the picture, push the right side button on your mouse and you get a menu including "save this image." Highlite that and your files will show up. I switch to a:\ and save them on floppies (which are up to CF 12 right now). Hope this helps.

Whoo! Is this place H O T or what? I'm away for just a couple of days and I come back and nearly drown in all this drool. Man! I've been missing out here. This place is alive and kicking more than ever! Hello to Kath and Stefanie, hope to see you often here. I Only Have Eyes For Him (Arami)Nowadays I seem to be the only Colin fan who doesn't care much about other actors. (Bethan)I am very telescopic in my obsession - only HIM! And I won't change my loyalties. (Claudia) You can include me in this boat(tub?), too. I wish I can stick with one obsession. I have too many. It'd make my life a lot easier if I only stuck with Colin. But my hormones won't allow it so I have my own personal little library of fixations. Spend many sleep-deprived nights lurking in cyberspace pursuing all the actors I adore. I can prove it with the bags under my eyes.I make my rounds and now it's time for Colin. Then I'll move on and then come back to him again. It's a big rotation. My new addition is Toby Stephens and who knows who will be n xt. Probably another Brit. Don't go for too many Americans these days. Alicia, keep on droolin'!

Claudia, I guess having only sons I didn't give much thought to the young girl other than I wished it was me there instead of her. But I'm glad you agree about our (Oh, you take my breath away) Colin! Marcia, Cheating? I don't think so, its just another enhancement, another form of arousal except its mental instead of physical. I don't remember the exact number but I read somewhere that a large percentage of successful, satisfying, just plain HOT lovemaking is in your head. Although I haven't exactly discussed it with my husband, I really, really don't think he minds abit. In fact, I know he doesn't! I don't think he wants to "look a gift horse in the mouth". As for which way I like my Colin best ANY WHICH WAY!!! Clothed, unclothed, smiling, serious, arrogant, pleasant, sitting, lying down, dry, WET,WET,WET(especially good one)standing still, walking, on horseback(OH my, yes). I could go on and on. And I haven't even mentioned what his voice does to me!! When I am able to express myself in a more genteel manner I will attempt that one! Yeah right, there's nothing genteel about my thoughts and feelings about Colin! I even shock myself sometimes!! I'm blushing right now. I'm about to have complete meltdown! Hmmm, I wonder what my husband is doing right now? I'll talk to you gals, later...

Good to hear! I read somewhere it was more like 90% in the mind - and I had a really serious attack last evening of which my husband was the happy beneficiary. It's all that repression!!!....Whew.... He is still offering to buy me a full set so I can get even more repression cut by A&E's wretched ads. I'm presently working on my next serious repression....it works wonders for everybody involved! I highly recommend it. I am sure, btw, that it isn't a "good thing" to check it out with your husband. ust gaze glazedly into his eyes for a few long moments....! Someone has mention his long legs....ah yes! They will do just fine. I can imagine how they'd wrap around and clasp....anything he wanted to ride! And how do I like him? Is there ANY way to not like him? Nevah! Not for me. Not in this lifetime. He is absolutely enchanting wet and wetter yet. The director allowed us all to participate - each in our own way....yes, wet anytime. But, I don't think I'll try that here. Did once and nearly froze! Gads, I wish I could say what I'm feeling, but this is the public I am writing to, and they should not know everything! You droolers know exactly what I am feeling =) Ahhhhhhhh! The voice. How could anyone who looks like *that* Sound that great? His voice.... I have the same problem here. The old visceral urges just at the sound of it - even being arogant. He sounds soooooooooo gooooooood! Very primal - nothing genteel about it! Melt down time!

Marcia, you posted your question on one of the other boards, but since I am here.... as far as I am concerned, yes, the real life holds me in it's cold, painful, merciless grip. But I lurk, I need it! And I rely on you all, to keep the Spring steaming hot, that I may find it the right temperature when I get back! Which reminds me of Richard Courtois, as he went into the public bath house ..... just imagine you could have been one of the ladies to join him in the pool - oh, where was I ....... oh, yes, I k ow..... keep up the high drool level! It's a delight listening to you! And Claudia, as for downloading of pics, have you ever tried the other mouse button? It took me month's to find it out :-)).

Great Story Alert I know alot of us have been keeping up with Fanfic at RoP. For those who haven't, Lisa C., who has been writing "The Trip", a current day version of P&P, is planning an e-mail version (a/k/a doesn't meet the high moral standards of RoP) of a wedding night for Darcy and Lizzy. She won't be continuing until December, when her exams are over, but her stories are great! E-mail her to get on her list of recipients. Also, why were some of the juicy stories in this web site deleted? I know that one author wanted it to disappear because a simple Alta Vista search on her name led to her story(!), but why not just post the stories without their real names? People could just have aliases. Circle of Friends Saw some "Darcy" moments in this video: - Nan:"This is my first time. Do you mind?" CF: "Not at all." The way he said this really reminded me of how he said the same line when Darcy was at the Inn at Lambton. - When his mother(?) was going over the list of girls, commenting on their looks and money, CF gives her an appalled look and walks away. Reminds me of the look Darcy had when appalled by the Bennet family's behavior at the Neth. Ball, or when Mrs. B contradicts D when she comes to visit Jane sick at Neth. Favorite line from movie: Eve: "OK, I'll hold it, but don't expect me to jiggle it around, understand?" I didn't realize that Andrew Davies did the screenplay on this. Another problem Sometimes, when someone posts a picture, all I see is a small box with a ? and 2 triangles in it. Why would that be? I use Netscape 3.0, if that matters. I know it happens when I check out the archives here; I'd have to double-ck to see if it happens in the active pages. An Interesting Web Site Saw on article in today's Wall St. Journal (p. B1) about "a movie-industry web site that has developed a fanatical following among Hollywood insiders and movie fans." It's www.aint-it-cool-news.com. Checked for things re: CF, but nothing yet. They're still working on the search function. Actually, it doesn't seem that CF's stuff is really "Hollywood", but, for what it's worth. Plus, the web master lives in Austin, TX. Isn't that home of Spring? This guy sounds great; he gets hundreds of e-mails a d y, from grips, prod. asstants, etc.

Aloha Renate! It is a real joy to hear from you, since yours were some of the Firthst comments I read when I found the Spring which hit me where I live. I promise to do my utmost to keep the spring steaming and to Firthilize it regularly with musing from my Firthilizer ( somewhere between my head and my heels wherein lies the OooooH's and Squinges I get for The Man.

To my dear British droolers, my nephew is attending the University at Hull for a year. He arrived there Sept. 16th. I asked (actually, I commanded) him to find me anything about Colin, magazines, books, posters, pictures, videos. He's been there two months now and tells me he hasn't found anything yet! Is that possible? I realize he's only 19 years old and has other things on his mind but could it be that difficult to find something of my precious Colin? So, I would greatly appreciate it if one of y u could tell me where I should send him to look. He'll be coming home for the Christmas holidays and I told the poor boy, for his own health and safety, he better bring me something! I'm particularly interested in videos that are not available in the U.S. but really anything will do. OK, here's a thought to keep a smile on your face all day. Colin baby on horseback, his legs(clothed in tight-fitting light colored breeches) flexed,so as to see every line and contour, pressing against that most fortunate horse. He sits high and nobly in his saddle, a saddle that cradles the very essence of my dreams. Maybe he'll shift alittle to the right and then alittle to the left, there, that's it, Oh, yeah that's it! Now hold on tight Colin, my love, as we, I mean, as you go up&down and up&down and up&down... OOOH, that's soooo nice!!!