genetically engineered products

~terry Wed, Sep 25, 1996 (10:52) seed

There is "Campaign to Ban Genetically Engineered Products" I got this in an email today from Judy Kew: I hope to send an update soon on information on the National Organic Standards Board Meeting last week in Indianapolis. A push to inform food manufacturers that -GEO's (genetically engineered organisms) could be in the foods they are using in their processing, -there is a source of pure soybean seeds (unlike Monsanto's message to them that there is not) -and that Europe and Japan are indeed concerned about GEO's in the food they buy from the U.S.(again unlike Monsanto's message) is being firmed up today.

~terry Wed, Sep 25, 1996 (10:53) #1

Here's the rest of Judy Kew's email: In the meantime, please note that some of our best champions for this cause are the candidates for the Natural Law Party. One of their major platforms is a stand against GEO's . They are calling for mandatory labeling and a moratorium until they are proven safe. This Wednesday we can join in a Conference Call with Dr. John Hagelin, the presidential candidate. Dr. Hagelin is a 42-year-old award-winning physicist who received his Ph.D. in particle physics from Harvard. He is the founder the Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy, a think tank of scientists, scholars and social policy makers to "offer practical solutions to the problems we face as a nation." He is a whole, compassionate person who, along with his party, has already done much for us, such as, help derail a U.N. level effort to get genetically engineered foods labeled as "organic." The Natural Law Party National Conference Call will be at 8 p.m. Eastern, Central & Pacific Time. Call 412-858-4600 to join in. (This is a change from the previously scheduled date of Sept. 26 due to the rescheduling of the presidential debates to that evening.) OR If you live in Austin you can listen to the call and join in the the plans for Dr. Hagelin and Dr. John Fagan"s visit to Texas, including Austin, Oct. 13-17 come this Wednesday, Sept. 25, (tomorrow ) at Sandie BonSell's at 8 p.m. -- 2000 Key West cove in Lost Creek in Austin. All are welcome. (Dr. Fagan is a molecular biologist who used to be a genetic engineer and returned $600,000 award money (given him by the NIH to do g. e. research) because he prefers to use his knowledge for life-supporting purposes.) This Wed: Conference call with Dr. John Hagelin, Dr. Mike Thompkins and Kingsley Brooks. We will be planning the National Tour and brainstorming venues for when they come through Texas. October 13-17 Dr. John Fagan and Dr. Thompkins tour Texas. Austin dates TBA. Other news from the Natural Law Party: October 17 Thurs. at 7PM Dr. Ed Fasanella, NLP Candidate,has been invited to the SouthWest Texas University political debates for District 14, Hays County. We are carpooling to the event to show our support and ask questions. Call Carol for carpool info. October 28 & 29 Dr. Hagelin to tour Texas. Austin dates TBA. Larry King has committed to have third party candidates on his show for 3 nights following the scheduled pres. debates. He offered to do this because we have been denied participation by the FCC- their reasoning is such that anyone who doesn't really have a chance to win shouldn't take up our time. Since when are they predictors of election outcomes? Who gave them the power to deny the voters information to make their own choices and hear other ideas and solutions to our nation's problems? If this makes you want to let your voice be heard you can do the following: e-mail debates 96@USA. pipeline. com. and tell them you support Dr. John Hagelin and Dr. Mike Thompkins to be included in all debates since we are on the ballot in 47 states and the D.C. and are the fastest growing political party in the nation. You can also sign a petition which will be delivered to the commission - go to www.hagelin.org then on to Politics now and they have the petition posted for anyone who wants to add their name. Call the FCC at 202-872-1020 directly and voice your support for third party candidates to be included in the nation's dialog and especially for NLP. Green Building Conference Nov. 7-10, 1996 http://www.greenbuilder.com/conference/ ------------------------------------------------------------ Texas InfiNet - an online community for progressive information BBS 512.462.0633 Telnet shakti.txinfinet.com:3000 WWW http://www.greenbuider.com

~stacey Tue, Sep 23, 1997 (13:32) #2

Did you know: There are no regulations on bottled water at the present time. Bottled water can be packaged in plastic containers (the 2nd largest landfill problem) straight from a municipal water source that may be contaminated with pesticides, herbicides, lead, chlorine (turns into gas in a hot shower), feces and several hundred other chemicals deemed "within acceptable limits" by the powers that be. I don't care what anybody says -- levels of these ANY levels of these are not acceptable to me.

~boyce2 Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (15:36) #3

Then you prolly shouldn't drink *anything*, Stacey... 100% pure water is only theoretically possible, never actually existed, even before life arose on the planet. The reality is that ppm and ppb concentrations of all kinds of nasties are present in water from all sources. But if there's not enough to damage you, what's the difference? The powers that be (usually the EPA or health department) have tons of info on the concentrations of most of the bad actors that have a measurable impact on human health, and they base their limits on that data (usually making the limit 100 or so times less than the measurable effect range). Got to tell you though, water with chlorine is going to be much better for you than water without. I like my bacteria dead, thank you very much. :)

~stacey Wed, Oct 29, 1997 (10:07) #4

Yes, the EPA has come up with "acceptable levels" of poisons in the drinking water but, what few people realize, is those levels are determined on a toxin by toxin basis w/o taking into consideration the AMA and independent research who have determined that the toxicity increases dramatically when the toxins are found in conjunction with others. Kinda like bleach and ammonia, eh?!?

~KitchenManager Fri, Oct 31, 1997 (01:36) #5

Everybody vote for Synergy! Keep this in mind when self medicating, kiddies... WER

~terry Sat, Mar 14, 1998 (08:24) #6

Genetic engineering of food is not almost here. Dolly the clone sheep presages herds of identical animals. Genetically engineered corn with pesticide resistance and insect resistance as well as potentially a different nutritional make up is on the way. Would you eat foods from these crops? Would you raise these crops?

~KitchenManager Sat, Mar 14, 1998 (13:59) #7

Deja vu...

~terry Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (11:02) #8

Whenever I address this topic, I think of my friend Judy Kew, who is a tireless campaigner for safe foods. I hope she jumps in here at some point. I irradiate foods every day. I have a microwave oven. Admission. I wish I knew what was actually bad for me, in the way of treated, irradiated, and genetically engineered foods. Where do you draw the line between hype and fact?

~KitchenManager Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (09:26) #9

Personal experimentation based on all available data...

~stacey Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (11:24) #10

and sometimes you just have to guess...

~boyce2 Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (16:43) #11

IMHO, a little loss of nutrient value (on par with cooking) from irradiation (ionizing gammas, not microwaves) is worth it to save the literally hundreds of lives and hundred of thousands of illnesses caused annually by biologically contaminated food. The doubling of the shelf-life of produce is icing on the cake.

~terry Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (16:59) #12

Man, talk about timing. I post on irradiation in foods and we get a rocket scientist checking in. So, Steve, would *you* eat irradiated foods (I think I know the answer) and what about genetically engineered foods?

~stacey Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (17:59) #13

i think i'd enjoy a five pound mushroom, how 'bout you?!?!

~KitchenManager Tue, Mar 17, 1998 (00:21) #14

How much Marsala sauce would that require, Stacey?

~stacey Tue, Mar 17, 1998 (09:07) #15

if it's your Marsala, I want lots and lots!!

~KitchenManager Wed, Mar 18, 1998 (00:16) #16

Anything else of mine that you want lots and lots of?

~stacey Wed, Mar 18, 1998 (17:16) #17

*grin* whatcha offering?!?

~KitchenManager Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (00:08) #18

whatever it takes...

~stacey Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (09:36) #19

(in keeping with the topic) got anything genetically engineered?!?!

~KitchenManager Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (11:04) #20

LOL! I'll work on it!

~stacey Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (17:20) #21

well, before you work too hard... maybe we should do some early studies ( before and after type thing!)

~stacey Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (17:55) #22

oops! just discovered this topic was linked to the environment conference... poor unsuspecting tree huggers!!!

~KitchenManager Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (00:48) #23

Okay, when do you want to schedule the exam? (the end of June is my birthday...)

~stacey Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (09:41) #24

mine is sooner!

~KitchenManager Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (09:45) #25

yeah, well, so?

~stacey Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (10:15) #26

(just thought we could move the date up. i mean, why wait 'til June?) (unless you're shy)

~KitchenManager Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (23:10) #27

Okay, so when's your birthday? (thought you already knew...)

~stacey Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (09:52) #28

April 16

~stacey Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (17:42) #29

wanna pre-party?

~KitchenManager Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (22:16) #30

sure, when and where?

~stacey Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:16) #31

well, if we can't fly to Bali... I suppose we will have to meet on some virtual plane

~KitchenManager Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:33) #32

Formal or informal attire?

~stacey Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:34) #33

GOOD MORNING! (what category does birthday 'suit' fit into?

~KitchenManager Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:40) #34

GOOD MORNING!!! (depends on the party...)

~stacey Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:41) #35

good point. besides, you don't want to start with nothing, when it's more fun to work your way there.

~KitchenManager Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:43) #36

This is true...speaking of, where's Bambi?

~stacey Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:45) #37

sleeping off last night, will I do for now? (only problem with Telnet is there is no handy little "latest posts" at the bottom, so I have to quickly run through the 10 or 15 most likely places!)

~KitchenManager Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:48) #38

I much prefer you, yes... (you're still faster on here than I is...)

~stacey Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:53) #39

got UNIX on my side!

~KitchenManager Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:53) #40

left, right, in or out?

~KitchenManager Wed, Apr 1, 1998 (01:27) #41

Oh, sure, go on Spring break just to avoid the question...

~stacey Mon, Apr 6, 1998 (15:23) #42

heh heh heh! left brained, right handed and an innie for a belly button. was that the question?

~KitchenManager Mon, Apr 6, 1998 (16:40) #43

no, silly, what side you got your Unix on... (but I do appreciate the information!)

~mikeg Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (10:58) #44

There's a jolly good reason why nature is the way it is: because it works. When not-very-clever little Johnny-Biologist goes around tinkering, he's going to screw it all up. Mark my words :)

~KitchenManager Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (15:13) #45

GENITICALLY ENGINEERED FOODS! There is growing consumer concern over the growth of Genetically Engineered Foods and potential health risks we face. You can obtain detailed information on this subject at the following web site: http://www.safe-food.org/

~sprin5 Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (07:53) #46

UK to approve use of "terminator" technology: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/UK/Environment/2000-10/gm141000.shtml Also from The Independent. Secrecy in UK GM field tests: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/UK/Environment/2000-10/gm151000.shtml

~terry Mon, May 5, 2003 (11:44) #47

Greenery on alert By Lakshmi Sandhana | Special to The Christian Science Monitor Combating bioterrorism is no longer the domain of high-tech gadgets alone. A new breed of genetically engineered plants will soon be capable of functioning as "sentinels," detecting harmful chemical and biological agents in the atmosphere. Designed to turn fluorescent green or a sickly brown within minutes or hours of exposure, the plants could be used along airport runways or around military or industrial sites. "Plants make good sentinels because they can't run away," says Jack Schultz, a chemical ecologist and professor of entomology at Pennsylvania State University. "Because they are rooted in their environment, they must respond dynamically to environmental changes." Some of the plants being developed will be able to signal the presence of chemical agents and animal pathogens such as anthrax. Others are being designed to fluoresce upon detecting TNT residues in the soil, aiding in land mine detection. If enough plants are gathered in one place, and if their glow is bright enough, researchers say satellites may be able to detect minefields from space. http://search.csmonitor.com/2003/0501/p12s01-stct.html