http://www.indystar.com/print/opinion/sat/articles/ecolpatterson17.html JAMES PATTERSON Missing evidence from Oklahoma City November 17, 2001 The FBI doesn't want to talk about it, but the evidence keeps mounting. Critical evidence that several Middle Eastern men may have been connected to the Oklahoma City bombing appears to have been kept from the public by the FBI. By law, such information should have been turned over to lawyers representing executed bomber Timothy McVeigh, and it must be given to the legal team for co-conspirator Terry Nichols, whose state case opened in an Oklahoma court two weeks ago. Officially, the FBI has dismissed the possibility of a John Doe No. 2, an olive-skinned man whose sketch they released immediately after the bombing, or other suspects. But current and former FBI agents in Oklahoma City say they received documents pointing to another person or even a cell of Middle Eastern operatives. . . . read the rest in the above url from the Indianapolis Star

mirmir) Sat Dec 1 '01 (21:08) 91 lines (terry) this may have been the french book about which i saw news reports: " "Mr. O'Neill complained that the F.B.I. was not free to act in international terror investigations because the State Department kept interfering...." Oil Diplomacy Muddled U.S. Pursuit of bin Laden, New Book Contends By ETHAN BRONNER New York Times November 12, 2001 A former F.B.I. antiterror official who was killed at the World Trade Center on Sept. 11 complained bitterly last summer that the United States was unwilling to confront Saudi Arabia over Osama bin Laden and that oil ruled American foreign policy, according to a new book published in France. The former official, John P. O'Neill, was the director of antiterrorism for the F.B.I.'s New York office when he resigned in August to become chief of security for the twin towers. "All the answers, everything needed to dismantle Osama bin Laden's organization can be found in Saudi Arabia," Mr. O'Neill is quoted as saying in the new book, "Ben Laden: La V�rit� Interdite" ("Bin Laden: The Forbidden Truth"), which argues that Saudi support for Mr. bin Laden has been extensive. One of the book's co-authors, Jean- Charles Brisard, a security expert who has spent several years examining Mr. bin Laden's financial empire, says in the book that he met with Mr. O'Neill in June and July. Mr. O'Neill is quoted as lamenting "the inability of American officials to get anything at all from King Fahd," the ailing Saudi ruler. He explains the failure in one word: oil. In telephone interviews and e-mail exchanges, Mr. Brisard elaborated on the book, released this week by the French publishing house Den�el. He said he first met Mr. O'Neill in June in Paris, where the two had dinner with a group of French antiterror officials. Mr. Brisard had written a report for the French intelligence services on the finances of Mr. bin Laden's Al Qaeda organization and he gave Mr. O'Neill a copy. In late July, he said, they met alone in New York for drinks and dinner, and Mr. O'Neill complained that the F.B.I. was not free to act in international terror investigations because the State Department kept interfering. Mr. O'Neill, who had worked on investigations of the first World Trade Center bombing, in 1993, and on the attacks on two American embassies in Africa in 1998, also suggested that he would soon move to the private sector, Mr. Brisard said. Mr. Brisard said his conversations with Mr. O'Neill were not interviews. He is publicizing Mr. O'Neill's opinions as "a tribute" to a man he admired. Mr. O'Neill's frustrations with the State Department were not secret. He had been leading the F.B.I.'s investigation into the bombing of the destroyer Cole in Yemen in October 2000, but he had been barred in July from returning to Yemen by the United States ambassador there. The ambassador, Barbara Bodine, complained that Mr. O'Neill and his associates showed no sensitivity to Yemeni culture or concerns and were harming relations between the two countries. After Mr. O'Neill's death in September, Yemeni officials called the F.B.I. and offered to cooperate with their investigations, Barry W. Mawn, the assistant director of the F.B.I., announced at Mr. O'Neill's funeral Mass. The book by Mr. Brisard, written with Guillaume Dasqui�, a journalist, also makes public for the first time the first international warrant for the arrest of Mr. bin Laden. It is a 1998 Interpol document from Libya. The so-called red notice, file number 1998/20032, accuses Mr. bin Laden and three Libyans of killing two Germans in Libya in 1994. The book identifies the victims as Silvan Becker and his wife and says they were German antiterror agents. It says Libya's leader, Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, sought their killers because they were members of a group linked to Mr. bin Laden that also wanted to kill Colonel Qaddafi. That group, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, was listed by President Bush after the Sept. 11 attacks as one whose assets should be frozen worldwide. According to the new French book, Mr. bin Laden was in Libya when the two Germans were killed in 1994. The book also asserts that Colonel Qaddafi's fears had some foundation. It says the British secret service, MI5, tried to assassinate Colonel Qaddafi in 1996 using members of that same Libyan Islamic Fighting Group. The book says it was because of that collaboration that the Interpol document with its Libyan origin has not been made public. Mr. Brisard said he had received the document from a former senior Interpol official who told him that British and American officials had kept it from public view. http://alexconstantine.50megs.com/ about 3/4/ down the page, but the reports i saw before, were not on this site. however, the reports i saw mentioned that the french SIS or some european intelligence had been warned not to interfere by either cia or fbi, whom they tried to warn this summer that al qaeda/bin laden was planning a terrorist attack on the states.

gotham Psychic Ops "Remote viewers" say the Feds have sought their help since 9/11. Might this explain all those "credible, nonspecific threats"? BY GEOFF GRAY Earlier this month, Prudence Calabrese, a West Coast psychic, flew into New York on business. She had two meetings: One was a catered sushi lunch at an uptown hedge fund that had hired her, for about $20,000, to predict this year's profit outlook. ("Their investors will be very happy.") The second, she says, was with agents from the FBI. During the Cold War, the Pentagon spent millions training "remote viewers" to spy on Russian military targets. (The Soviets, of course, had their own psychics.) The program, called Stargate, was very controversial, very X-Files, and until funding was cut in 1995, completely classified. Now some of the psychics connected to that program and others, like Calabrese, say that federal officials are calling upon them again. Lyn Buchanan, a former CIA remote-viewing trainer, says that since September 11 he has received requests for intelligence from three separate federal agencies. And Las Vegas-based psychic Angela Thompson Smith says she has been asked by the Feds (she won't reveal which ones) to help identify perpetrators of the World Trade Center attacks and the anthrax letters, and to pinpoint future terrorist targets more @ http://www.nymag.com/page.cfm?page_id=5615

i thought they did away with remote viewing....very interesting bit of information.

http://www.fuckedworld.com/2002_06_01_pastfuck.shtml#85165803 Speculation based on the police sketch of unaccounted-for OK City co-conspirator "John Doe #2" who looks an awful lot like Jose Padilla, alleged dirty bomber, who incidentally has the same surname as Lana Padilla, ex-wife of Terry Nichols, who just happened to have claimed that Nichols was funded by Al Qaeda terrorists operating out of the Philippines.

http://www.letsroll911.org/articles/controlleddemolition.html From the above. Evidence of Controlled Demolition by: Geronimo Jones 9-11, THE EXPLOSIVE TRUTH REVEALED It was a picture perfect day in September. I was watering some plants on my terrace and enjoying the unseasonably warm weather when I heard the sound of a plane flying low. Within seconds I watched in horror as the unthinkable unfolded, right in my backyard! The shock was overwhelming. My first thoughts was that it was a terrorist attack. This was confirmed by the news reports of Al Qaeda. But one thing the reporters left out was something I witnessed first hand. A very important omission at that! Seconds before the South Tower crumbled to its doom, I heard/felt a series of explosions. Same with the North Tower. There was no denying it, I could FEEL the vibrations of them like a small earthquake. Yet when I turned on the news none of the other eyewitnesses commented on this. Indeed, in the days that followed, like many Americans, I remained glued to the news networks to keep myself informed of any developments and confirm what I had witnessed. But despite the numerous eyewitness accounts, there was still no mention of the explosions. I decided to examine the evidence for myself�

terry, this topic needs to be linked to the one in paraspring....

ok

Done. Dood it.

thanks, we have a similar topic here but it's mostly area 51 stuff.....this'll be good to cover all the other CT's too.

Where is this one currently? News? I found it in paraspring and am currently curiously finding odd stuff on pravda. How times have changed.

beware one of the above links from Tery's post brings you into a really graphic porn website. Are you sure you want that linked here? Just saying...

post 5 link is now http://www.egoplex.com/ but the exact article is lost in their archives (or just hiding from me)

nooo, no porn sites allowed here! thanks marcia...

*Hugs* thought you'd like to know. I'm sure Terry's link was valid when he posted it. How things change !!!

It was valid when I posted it, I'll fix it.

Can't find it, where is it?

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