wow. Long long ago... when I had a box of moving pictures in my house (actually my parents house) I must've seen Planet of the Apes at least 10 times. BTW add that to the top ten list and amend the comment I made about Clash of the Titans and Excalibur in your heads please!

I've never seen it. Is it really that good?

Animal rights activist Kingsley Amis (I may have the name incorrect) and writer for Saturday Evening Post.

Cleveland Amory is who I meant to say. Cleveland Amory, noted cat lover, animal fancy-ist, ad curmudgeon died yesterday, according to NPR. He will be buried on his Black Beauty Ranch (home to unwanted animals) next to his cat Snowball. He was 81.

From: pgp@pgmedia.net (Paul Garrin) To: nettime-l@Desk.nl Subject: Remembering Jon Postel Sender: owner-nettime-l@basis.Desk.nl Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 2305fb2e83050f1cadf4d84d630f38f5 Status: RO X-Status: From: pgp@pgmedia.net (name.space) Subject: Remembering Jon Postel I just received this mail indicating that Dr. Jon Postel, controversial head of the IANA (Internet Assigned Numbers Agency) died on October 17. I have not yet received details on the circumstances of his death but will post them as soon as they come in. Although I disagreed with Dr. Postels actions of late, I have always had a high degree of respect and admiration for his important contributions to the internet. His death is an untimely tragedy. --Paul Garrin >Forwarded-From: Dave Farber I, and others I fear, have spent a sleepless night after hearing of the death of Jon Postel last night. This morning there was a note in my mail box from Vint Cerf that said many of the things I feel at this time. I asked him for permission to send on which he granted. I also remember Jon. I was his primary thesis advisor along with Jerry Estrin and I remember with fond memories the months spent closely working with Jon while his eager mind developed the ideas in back of what was a pioneering thesis that founded the area of protocol verification. Since I was at UC Irvine and Jon at UCLA we used to meet in the morning prior to my ride to UCI at a Pancake House in Santa Monica for breakfast and the hard work of developing a thesis. I gained a great respect for Jon then and 10 pounds of weight. I will miss him greatly. Jon was my second Ph.D. student. The first, Philip Merlin, also died way before his time. Dave ________________________________________________________________________ October 17, 1998 I REMEMBER IANA Vint Cerf A long time ago, in a network, far far away, a great adventure took place Out of the chaos of new ideas for communication, the experiments, the tentative designs, and crucible of testing, there emerged a cornucopia of networks. Beginning with the ARPANET, an endless stream of networks evolved, and ultimately were interlinked to become the Internet. Someone had to keep track of all the protocols, the identifiers, networks and addresses and ultimately the names of all the things in the networked universe. And someone had to keep track of all the information that erupted with volcanic force from the intensity of the debates and discussions and endless invention that has continued unabated for 30 years. That someone was Jonathan B. Postel, our Internet Assigned Numbers Authority, friend, engineer, confidant, leader, icon, and now, first of the giants to depart from our midst. Jon, our beloved IANA, is gone. Even as I write these words I cannot quite grasp this stark fact. We had almost lost him once before in 1991. Surely we knew he was at risk as are we all. But he had been our rock, the foundation on which our every web search and email was built, always there to mediate the random dispute, to remind us when our documentation did not do justice to its subject, to make difficult decisions with apparent ease, and to consult when careful consideration was needed. We will survive our loss and we will remember. He has left a monumental legacy for all Internauts to contemplate. Steadfast service for decades, moving when others seemed paralyzed, always finding the right course in a complex minefield of technical and sometimes political obstacles. Jon and I went to the same high school, Van Nuys High, in the San Fernando Valley north of Los Angeles. But we were in different classes and I really did not know him then. Our real meeting came at UCLA when we became a part of a group of graduate students working for Prof. Leonard Kleinrock on the ARPANET project. Steve Crocker was another of the Van Nuys crowd who was part of the team and led the development of the first host-host protocols for the ARPANET. When Steve invented the idea of the Request for Comments series, Jon became the instant editor. When we needed to keep track of all the hosts and protocol identifiers, Jon volunteered to be the Numbers Czar and later the IANA once the Internet was in place. Jon was a founding member of the Internet Architecture Board and served continuously from its founding to the present. He was the FIRST individual member of the Internet Society I know, because he and Steve Wolff raced to see who could fill out the application forms and make payment first and Jon won. He served as a trustee of the Internet Society. He was the custodian of the .US domain, a founder of the Los Nettos Internet service, and, by the way, managed the networking research division of USC Information Sciences Institute. Jon loved the outdoors. I know he used to enjoy backpacking in the high Sierras around Yosemite. Bearded and sandaled, Jon was our resident hippie-patriarch at UCLA. He was a private person but fully capable of engaging photon torpedoes and going to battle stations in a good engineering argument. And he could be stubborn beyond all expectation. He could have outwaited the Sphinx in a staring contest, I think. Jon inspired loyalty and steadfast devotion among his friends and his colleagues. For me, he personified the words =93selfless service.=94 For nearly 30 years, Jon has served us all, taken little in return, indeed sometimes receiving abuse when he should have received our deepest appreciation. It was particularly gratifying at the last Internet Society meeting in Geneva to see Jon receive the Silver Medal of the International Telecommunications Union. It is an award generally reserved for Heads of State but I can think of no one more deserving of global recognition for his contributions. While it seems almost impossible to avoid feeling an enormous sense of loss, as if a yawning gap in our networked universe had opened up and swallowed our friend, I must tell you that I am comforted as I contemplate what Jon has wrought. He leaves a legacy of edited documents that tell our collective Internet story, including not only the technical but also the poetic and whimsical as well. He completed the incorporation of a successor to his service as IANA and leaves a lasting legacy of service to the community in that role. His memory is rich and vibrant and will not fade from our collective consciousness. =93What would Jon have done?=94 we will think, as we wrestle in the days ahead with the problems Jon kept so well tamed for so many years. There will almost surely be many memorials to Jon=92s monumental service to the Internet Community. As current chairman of the Internet Society, I pledge to establish an award in Jon=92s name to recognize long-standing service to the community, the Jonathan B. Postel Service Award, which is awarded to Jon posthumously as its first recipient. If Jon were here, I am sure he would urge us not to mourn his passing but to celebrate his life and his contributions. He would remind us that there is still much work to be done and that we now have the responsibility and the opportunity to do our part. I doubt that anyone could possibly duplicate his record, but it stands as a measure of one man s astonishing contribution to a community he knew and loved. --- # distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission # is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@desk.nl and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: nettime-owner@desk.nl

Autopsy report says FloJo's death caused by epileptic seizure CBS SportsLine wire reports Oct. 22, 1998 SANTA ANA, Calif. -- World record sprinter Florence Griffith Joyner suffered an epileptic seizure that caused her to die of asphyxiation, coroner's authorities said Thursday. Griffith Florence Griffith Joyner's autopsy report indicates she died during an epileptic seizure as she slept. (AP) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joyner, 38, died at her Mission Viejo home on Sept. 21, and investigators had been trying since then to determine the cause. There had been speculation about heart problems, and some had suggested the world's fastest woman used performance-enhancing drugs. None of it was true, Orange County officials said. "Flojo" to fans and competitors, Griffith Joyner had a congenital brain abnormality known as cavernous angioma, said Dr. Barbara Zaias, one of the investigators. The condition allows blood to accumulate outside normal blood vessels in the brain or spinal tissue, and may be found in 25 percent of the population, she said. Once considered rare, it has been detected more often in recent years with the advent of CAT scans and other diagnostic tools. THE SEIZURE APPARENTLY struck during sleep, causing Griffith Joyner's limbs to tense. It possibly wrenched her head to the right as she lay on her stomach, said Dr. Richard Fukumoto, chief of forensics for the Orange County sheriff and coroner. "In layman's terms, she suffocated," Fukumoto told reporters. Explaining the term "positional asphyxia," he said her airway was probably already constricted by the involuntary turning of her head. Pillows and blankets on that side further hampered her oxygen supply. "This episode I would say would have taken minutes, only," Fukumoto said. "Definitely less than an hour." Her husband, 1984 Olympic triple jump champion Al Joyner, called paramedics after discovering she was not breathing that morning. Toxicology tests showed she had taken about one tablet each of the over-the-counter painkiller Tylenol and antihistamine Benadryl, but "there was nothing unusual in terms of drugs," said Lt. Frank Fitzpatrick, head of forensic sciences for the sheriff's office. NOR WERE THERE ANY OBVIOUS heart problems, Fukumoto said. Griffith Joyner never failed a drug test. Family, friends and sports officials were happy to hear those rumors die. "We now hope that this great Olympic champion, wife and mother can rest in peace, and that her millions of admirers around the world will celebrate her legacy to sport and children every day," U.S. Olympic Committee president Bill Hybl said. "It is time for the whispers and dark allegations to cease." World-class athletes expressed similar sentiments. "I had felt bad about all the statements that had been made about her," said Roger Kingdom, two-time Olympic champion in the 110-meter hurdles. "I'm glad she's been cleared and exonerated. Now, she can rest in peace, and the rest of the world can see that she was a great athlete." Dwight Stones, former world record-holder in the high jump, said she was "the most tested athlete" of the 1988 Olympics. ``I think this (the autopsy) is fabulous and phenomenal vindication for her and her family. Now, they should just leave her alone," he said. ADDED LONG-JUMPER Martha Watson, a four-time Olympian, "She did too much for our sport to be accused of things that no one ever was able to confirm." Sandra Farmer-Patrick, a former record holder in the 400-meter hurdles, has long ties to the sprinter. Griffith Joyner was the godmother of Farmer-Patrick's daughter. "I just hope they'll let her rest in peace like they should have done before," she said Thursday. "It's time to stop the allegations -- they're ridiculous. They were disturbing to her family and friends and quite disrespectful." The seizure was not Griffith Joyner's first. She was hospitalized in 1996 a day after suffering a seizure on a flight to St. Louis. Her husband and daughter were traveling with her, but the family declined to discuss her condition at the time. Many people never show symptoms of cavernous angioma and may live their whole lives without knowing they have it. In others, it can cause headaches and seizures, Zaias said. The condition can sometimes be detected by CAT scans and can be treated, she said. But sometimes scans fail to detect it. DURING THE PRESS CONFERENCE, sheriff's spokesman Lt. Hector Rivera cut off questions about Griffith Joyner's medical history and whether the condition had been diagnosed. The abnormality has never been associated in medical research with steroids or any other drugs, Fukumoto said. It may develop right along with the brain of a fetus, Zaias said. Stylish, smooth and muscular, Griffith Joyner won three Olympic gold medals in the 1988 Seoul Games and set world records that still stand in the 100- and 200-meter dashes. In the mid-1980s, Griffith Joyner moved from Watts, her home neighborhood in southern Los Angeles, to upscale Mission Viejo on the Orange County coast. Her flowing black hair, skin-tight outfits and glittering 6-inch fingernails brought a dash of flash to track and field. A line of athletic shoes and clothes that she had been working on was scheduled to go on sale next month.

shit in a way it's almost sadder, knowing this so arbitrary, you know?

sigh okay convoluted reasoning (but look who's reasoning)

Poor flo Jo. And her poor husband and kids.

I wonder if Sonja has seen this in her cat scans?

Jean Marais died in France. The beast in Cocteau's Beauty and the Beast, among other screen credits. Cocteau's lover.

is there a photo somewhere of him?

I don't have one. Try a web search?

Stokely Carmichael died in Africa. He started Black Power. He became Kwame Ture.

More details: Stokely Carmichael, age 57, in Conakry, Guinea, cancer.

rip Mo Udall, Lawton Chiles, Lord Lew Grade...

Lew Grade founded ATV, the first commercial TV station in the UK, and was responsible for series like ``The Saint,'' and the Muppets, The Persuaders, George and Mildred, Thunderbirds and (if I'm not mistaken) The Prisoner. He produced movies like the Pink Panther series, On Golden Pond, The Exorcist, Sophie's Choice, and the ill-fated Raise The Titanic. Of "Raise The Titanic" he said "It would have been cheaper to lower the Atlantic."

the saint? the val kilmer saint movie? loved pp, the muppets, sophie's choice (although it really made me cry). hopefully he was really really old.

Mr. Roper from Three's Company. He died as a result of cancer.

Novelist William Gaddis died yesterday, aged 75, of prostate cancer. Gaddis wrote the post WWII classics the Recognitions, JR, Carpenter's Gothic, and a Frolic of His Own. Apparantly, he was able to finish a fifth novel, "Agape Agape" before he died.

love...love

love has died? (stacey, is that what agape means? this is how i read it-- a gape but is it read ah gahpeh?)

Agape is a greek word meaning: the deepest, most committed, form of love. Your second pronunciation is close. The accent is on the second syllable.

yes, you got it wolf. Thanks for the additional explanation Patrick

You're welcome, anytime, Stacey.

although sometimes, and someplaces, you're much more welcome than others!

*giggle*

Fred Astaire.

Iron Eyes Cody is memorialized at http://www.kab.org/index.html

Whew that was a lot of obits.

King Hussein of Jordan. Here's a good obituary done by the Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/hussein/hussein.htm New York Times editorial on the passing of King Hussein: http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/editorial/06sat1.html Queen Noor, (aka Lisa Halaby of San Mateo, CA) is his surviving wife.

Gene Siskel. Thumb down.

so sad.

we forget to mention that John Ehrlichman died on Valentine's Day...

who was he?

One of the Nixon staff. Here's Eberts tribute to Siskel: www.suntimes.com/output/eb-feature/rog21i.html

Wilmer "Vinegar Bend" Mizell, age 68. Major League pitcher (Cardinals, Pirates, Mets) 1952-62; U.S. Congressman, 1968-74. One of my favorite sports heroes from my days in St. Louis.

wow. Siskel.

Glenn Seaborg has died, at age 86. http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/glenn-seaborg-obit.html

Rob Haubner, an Intel manager and a member of the original i960 team, and his wife, Susan Miller, hacked to death by machete-wielding rebels in Rwanda, while on a trek to observe endangered mountain gorillas... six other western tourists reportedly lost their lives in this incident as well... Terrible!

Dusty Springfield, 59, breast cancer You Don't Have to Say You Love Me, Son of a Preacher Man I Only Wanna Be With You Rest peacefully, Dusty. What a sexy voice. And it was Uganda not Rwanda. Today's London Times ran a story on the Uganda killings claiming that the rebels specifically pulled out the British and American members of the party in protest against (I think) British and American support of the Tutsis. Six British people died, IIRC, at least one of whom was only about 23, a recent graduate taking a break before concentrating on his career. The French in the group were spared, as was one (British?) woman who faked an asthma attack.

Stanley Kubrick 2001 Clockwork Orange Details at http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/Movies/9903/07/kubrick.obit/

Where have you gone Joe Dimaggio? Joe Dimaggio, 84.

to that great big baseball field in the sky....

Joltin' Joe has left and gone away...hey hey hey...

a sad day... http://www.cnn.com/books/news/9905/10/AM-Obit-Silverstein.ap/

yesterday, dana something-or-other of different strokes fame, was found dead. she was 34 or 36.

as i recall, she fought a pretty continuous battle with drugs...

yup, and it ended that way too. the day before, she told howard stern she was off drugs. sad, huh? (dana plato, 34).... i believe she had a child or two as well.

btw: above photo was from infoseek's entertainment site....

Saul Steinberg, the wonderful and versatile artist best known for his countless appearances in the pages and on the cover of The New Yorker (the most famous being the oft-reproduced and imitated view of the world from a New York perspective), died at 84 on May 12.

Gene Sarazen, 97, pneumonia. On May 13.

Wrestling tour goes on after Owen Hart's death Emergency medical personnel give Hart CPR inside the wrestling ring � Thousands witness accident; television audience does not May 24, 1999 Web posted at: 7:33 p.m. EDT (2333 GMT) --------------------------------------- 'Wrestlers were openly weeping' What witnesses saw WWF: 'We have no answers' 'We thought they were just playing with us' --------------------------------------- KANSAS CITY, Missouri (CNN) -- A World Wrestling Federation tour was set to continue on Monday while an investigation looked for the cause of a fatal plunge by Owen Hart, a Canadian wrestler who went by the name "Blue Blazer." Hart fell 50 feet, hit his head and died Sunday when a wire holding him in the air either broke or became disconnected while he was being lowered into the ring during a WWF match at Kemper Arena in Kansas City, Missouri. There were more than 16,000 people in attendance but viewers watching the event on pay-per-view television did not see the fall, which occurred about 75 minutes into the show. Recorded highlights of Hart's career were being shown at the time. 'Wrestlers were openly weeping' As Hart's fellow performers were boarding a plane in Kansas City on Monday for a cross-state flight to St. Louis, WWF President Vince McMahon Jr. said the death had provoked grief among the team. "Wrestlers were openly weeping last night," McMahon said, his eyes filling with tears. The WWF canceled the encore and replay Pay-Per-View program that was scheduled for Tuesday and Thursday. The following live events were also canceled: Peoria, Illinois; Winnipeg, Manitoba; Hamilton, Ontario; Montreal; and Ottawa, Ontario. What witnesses saw Hart, 33, the younger brother of Bret (The Hitman) Hart, a star with rival World Championship Wrestling, fell as he was being lowered from the arena's ceiling as his match introduction was about to begin. Wrestler Owen Hart, right, applies a choke hold to his brother Bret Hart in this undated photo � It was a stunt he had performed before. Some witnesses said the cable snapped, while others said it appeared Hart was somehow disconnected from it. They said his head snapped backward when he hit a turnbuckle, one of the padded pieces of metal that hold the ropes together in each corner of the ring. Hart was given CPR inside the ring as the ring announcer haltingly told the audience that the incident was not scripted, as professional wrestling matches openly are. The wrestler was pronounced dead at a hospital. "He was supposed to be lowered down into the ring," said Michelle Hindorff, a paramedic and dispatcher for Kansas City's ambulance service. "It didn't get hooked on to him. He thought it was hooked on," she said. WWF: 'We have no answers' The World Wrestling Federation said it is investigating what went wrong. "We at the WWF are saddened by the tragic accident that occurred here tonight," McMahon said Sunday. "We have no answers as to how this happened yet. We will shortly." Hart curls a dumbbell while working out in a gym in this 1996 photo � 'We thought they were just playing with us' Hart was known for his acrobatic stunts and some members of the audience thought his fall was part of an act. "We thought it was a doll at first," said 15-year-old Robert McCome. "We thought they were just playing with us. We were really shocked when we found out that it was no joke." "He was moving pretty fast (as he fell)," said Jesse McDonald, who was sitting near the ring. "His chin and neck hit the top rope." The arena fell into silence. "I didn't see it, but from what I can gather, somebody slipped up," Hart's 83-year-old father, former wrestler Stu Hart, said from the family home in Calgary, Alberta. "You don't get up 60 or 70 feet in the air without being properly anchored down," he said. "I haven't talked to Vince McMahon yet, but somebody was careless or missed something or else Owen would still be here." The WWF is one of the biggest draws on cable and pay-per-view TV. The WWF admits that its events are more entertainment then sport. Hart's fall happened in the second part of an event called "Over the Edge." The first portion, called "Sunday Night Heat," was televised live on the USA cable network. The TV audience was being shown a montage of Hart's clips when he fell and the camera panned through the crowd while paramedics worked on him. The show stopped for 15 minutes before Hart was taken away, and the matches resumed. All seven of Stu Hart's sons entered professional wrestling, with Owen joining in 1989. He had recently told a magazine that he was planning to leave wrestling when his contract was up. Survivors include his wife, Martha, and two young children. His older brother Bret "The Hitman" Hart, the current heavyweight champ with the rival World Championship Wrestling, canceled a scheduled appearance on "The Tonight Show" Monday to fly home to be with his family in Canada. The WCW issued a statement on Owen Hart's death: "We are shocked and saddened by this terrible tragedy. Our thoughts and prayers are with Bret Hart and the entire Hart family." The Associated Press contributed to this report. ---------------------------------------

Oh, I have seen you have noticed Rob's untimely demise ( http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/news/9.10 ). Did You know Milli Vanilli was a German band? Rob lived in Munich, but the band was managed and produced by Frank Farian (the very man who did Boney M., who were, yes it's true, also a German band). Farian's famous studio is about 35 kilometers north of Frankfurt, right in my county.

i knew milli vanilli was german *grin*

Actually, we German men all have these braided hairdos, I thwear!

and you all lip sync too, huh? *grin*

Well, some sync, some pay and some bust lip. Whaddaya expect, we here derive from headhunting tribes!

Clifton Fadiman http://www2.nando.net:80/noframes/story/0,2107,62064-98653-702226-0,00.html Hope that works.

Astronaut Conrad Dies In Motorcycle Accident By Dan Whitcomb LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Former Apollo astronaut Charles ''Pete'' Conrad Jr., who in 1969 became the third person to walk on the moon, died after crashing his motorcycle on a California highway, authorities said Friday. He was 69. Conrad was riding his 1996 Harley Davidson Thursday with his wife Nancy and a group of friends on a central California highway Thursday afternoon when he apparently lost control of his motorcycle on a curve and was thrown onto the pavement, said Ventura County deputy coroner James Baroni. He died about five hours later while being treated at a hospital for internal bleeding. An exact cause of death has yet to be determined pending an autopsy. Baroni said Conrad's wife and friends, who were traveling with the space legend to Monterrey from his home in Huntington Beach, saw the accident and summoned an ambulance, but did not immediately realize the extent of his injuries. ``Initially ... I don't think the family thought it was all that serious,'' Baroni said. ``He apparently flew off, landed on his chest, had some scrapes and bruises and a little difficulty breathing, but he was able to walk around and talk.'' Baroni said an ambulance crew brought him to a hospital emergency room where his blood pressure began to drop and his abdomen started to swell -- signs that he was losing blood. He was rushed into surgery, but his heart soon stopped beating. Conrad, a veteran of four space flights, was best known for his role as commander of the second lunar landing on Nov. 19, 1969, on the Apollo 12 mission. U.S. astronaut Neil Armstrong became the first person on the moon on July 20, 1969, followed by crewmate Edwin ``Buzz'' Aldrin on the Apollo 11 mission. In a 1996 interview with the Los Angeles Times, Conrad recalled that: ``the Earth resembled a beautiful blue marble suspended against a black velvet blanket.'' Conrad also described himself to the paper as a thrill-seeker, saying he enjoyed ``fast bikes, fast cars and anything that moves.'' Howard Benedict, director of the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation who knew Conrad and as a reporter covered the Apollo missions, said of the astronaut's death: ``We have lost not only a friend but a strong voice for the future in space. It was a shock to have him die so tragically.'' Benedict remembered Conrad's sense of humor, recalling his reaction when lightning struck Apollo 12: ``He said 'hey guys, I think we just got hit by lightning.' He said 'this place was lit up like a pinball machine in here'.'' Benedict said when Conrad -- who at 5-foot-6 (1.67 meters) was the shortest member of the crew -- took his first step onto the moon, a drop of three feet (1 meter), ``His first words were 'whoopee. That may have been one small step for Neil but it was a heck of a long one for me.'' NASA Administrator Daniel Goldin called Conrad a space ''pioneer'' who was deeply committed to his country.'' Conrad was born on June 2, 1930, and was interested in flight from childhood, building model airplanes and working in an airfield machine shop to pay for flying lessons at age 15. He piloted the Gemini 5 mission in 1965, commanded Gemini 11 in 1966 and Apollo 12 three years later. In his final space mission, Conrad headed the first crew in the Skylab space station, which sustained damage during its launch. He and his crew repaired Skylab during three harrowing spacewalks, saving the program from potential failure. Conrad retired from the U.S. Navy and NASA in 1974. After leaving the space agency Conrad devoted his time to developing reusable spacecraft, first with aerospace giant McDonnell Douglas and later as chief executive officer of a Newport Beach, California, company called Universal Space Lines. Jim Albaugh, president of Boeing, which now owns McDonnell Douglas, said of Conrad: ``He served his country so well and so enthusiastically as an astronaut, as a naval officer and as a private citizen. ``His accomplishments and legacy will endure.''

Two obits today, the inspiration for Crocodile Dundee and the world's oldest goldfish. From the Washington Post obituaries section 8/5/99: Rodney Ansell Crocodile Dundee Model Rodney Ansell, an Australian bushman who inspired the 1986 hit movie "Crocodile Dundee" has been killed in a shootout with police in the outback. Police said he shot and killed a policeman by a roadblock south of Darwin, capital of the Northern Territory, on Aug. 3 before being shot dead by the officer's partner. Local media said Mr. Ansell, once named Territorian of the Year, was the role model for Paul Hogan's knife-slinging outback hero Crocodile Dundee. Ken Shadie, who wrote "Crocodile Dundee" with Hogan and John Cornell, had seen a television interview with Ansell by British journalist Michael Parkinson. That interview fired Hogan's imagination about a bushman superstar that led to the making of the first Dundee film. Police could not explain Mr. Ansell's action, but said he might have been involved in a shooting incident on Monday night after which the roadblock was set up on the lonely Stuart Highway. Assistant Commissioner John Daulby told reporters Mr. Ansell could easily have evaded the roadblock but instead shot at a policeman from behind some bushes. And then there's: Tish, the world's oldest goldfish, 43. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_414000/414114.stm

Victor Mature. 86. Of cancer. William Shatner's wife, found dead in the family swimming pool by Shatner last night.

Food Network to Broadcast Salute to 'Two Fat Ladies' Jennifer Paterson Tribute Honoring the Memory of One of Television's Biggest Personalities Airs Sunday, August 15, from 9 - 11 p.m. ET. New York, August 10, 1999--Food Network today announced plans to broadcast a special tribute in honor of Two Fat Ladies' Jennifer Paterson. Paterson, 71, died early today at a hospital in London where she was being treated for lung cancer. The announcement was made today by Eric Ober, Food Network president and general manager. -- read the rest at http://www.foodtv.com/fn/contact/paterson/press.htm

wait, a 43 year old GOLDFISH??? Was it a koi?

Waaaaahhhhhh! I loved the fat ladies!

Me, too.

Who were they?

These two older British women have a cooking show on PBS. I love their rapport, they're always dishing out these saucy little comments (couldn't resist the pun!)

How did I miss something from the BBC?! I am now getting the Food Channel scrambled so I heard them mentioned in some future programming lineup = a tribute or whatever to these ladies. Must see if I can look sideways enough to see anything. Thanks, Autumn, dear.

Posted: Friday August 20, 1999 12:45 AM As a motivational speaker, Kim Perrot told young women there was nothing they could not achieve. Elsa Hasch/Allsport HOUSTON (AP) -- Kim Perrot, the popular Houston Comets point guard who was the heart and soul of the two-time WNBA champions, died Thursday of lung cancer. She was 32. Perrot died peacefully with friends and family by her side at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, the team said. Perrot, diagnosed with lung cancer on Feb. 19, had been seeking alternative treatment in Tijuana, Mexico after undergoing surgery Feb. 24 to remove tumors in her brain, where the lung cancer had spread. "The world is not as good as it was before 3 o'clock today," said Carroll Dawson, the executive vice president for basketball for the Comets. The Comets were in Los Angeles on Thursday preparing for Friday night's game against the Los Angeles Sparks. Dawson said the team planned to play the game. "They thought she would want them to play, and I can guarantee you that she did. She would be kicking their tails if they didn't play," Dawson said. Coach Van Chancellor said even though he knew Perrot's condition was grave, news of her death still caught him off guard. "I was just totally unprepared when they called me. I thought I would be ready for it but in no way was I ready," Chancellor told Houston television station KRIV. "The entire WNBA family is devastated by this tragic loss," WNBA president Val Ackerman said in a statement. "We will remember Kim as a woman of great heart and indomitable courage who refused to be daunted by any challenge." Her condition worsened during her second trip to Mexico. She returned to Houston last Saturday. "It's totally changed my life," Perrot told Houston television station KTRK shortly after disclosing her illness. "I've never been really sick or injured and now I'm faced with life or death. It's just tough. All I can do is put it in the hands of the Lord." The Lafayette, La., native arrived in Houston three years ago, fresh off the professional women's circuit in Europe. She was signed as a developmental player for the fledgling Women's National Basketball Association franchise here. Despite her 5-foot-5 frame, Perrot quickly became a starter and crowd favorite noted for ferocious play that helped the Comets clinch championships in 1997 and 1998, the league's inaugural seasons. Last year, Perrot averaged 8.5 points and 4.7 assists and made 84 steals in 30 regular-season games and was second in voting for WNBA defensive player of the year. During the offseason, Perrot began suffering headaches. After conducting several tests, doctors delivered the startling diagnosis of lung cancer for Perrot, a nonsmoker. The cancer already had spread to her brain when it was detected. "I have the will to win. I won't accept anything less than winning." she told the television interviewer. "With this type of illness I'm facing now, I take the same approach. I won't be defeated. I just feel confident this is just a challenge, just a trial for me. ... I work really well under pressure." After brain surgery, Perrot entered radiation treatment to attack tumors in her head. She went to Mexico for alternative medical procedures rather than submit to chemotherapy prescribed by her Houston doctors. "Her fight off the court against cancer was heroic and brave," Houston Mayor Lee Brown said. "Although she lost her battle, she leaves the legacy of a winner." Perrot played four seasons at Southwestern Louisiana. She scored 58 points against Southeastern Louisiana in 1990, the second-highest total in NCAA history. Perrot set 26 other school records, including the career scoring mark of 2,157 points. She played six years in Europe for pro teams in Sweden, Germany, Israel and France, returning to the United States in 1997. In one of her last public appearances, on June 22, Perrot accepted her second championship ring during a Comets home game. "Who would have thought Kim Perrot would be a two-time WNBA champion?" she said. "When no one else believed in me, my teammates and the fans stuck with me." Despite her illness, Perrot made about 100 public appearances as a motivational speaker, often at schools. In one of her last regular columns for the Houston Chronicle's teen supplement "Yo!," she told young women there was nothing they could not achieve. "It's such an exciting time to be a female athlete in the U.S.A," she wrote. "I encourage you young women to follow your dreams. It will take a lot of hard work and determination, but there are no limits to what you can do." Survivors include her mother, Consuella Perrot; two brothers, Craig Perrot and Kevin Perrot; and a sister, Loretta Perrot, all of LaFayette, La.

Aug 23, 1999, John Jeffrey Chambers. My best friend since 1981. His roommate e'd me with the news. He went peacefully after complications from a seizure. I know he is in a better place, but I don't think he knew how much I love(d) him. He was 32.

My condolences.

Oh Wolf, I am so sorry!!! *hugs*

Koi are actually a Japanese carp species, and though they often are gold colored, they are not goldfish. With proper care (cleaned, aerated ponds) koi can live over 300 years and are often passed down many generations in Japanese families. They are quite popular in Hawaii.

thanks, guys, for your thoughts *hugs*

Allen Funt, the human nature expert and creative genius behind/original host of Candid Camera. Dead at 84. Died peacefully at his home in California. Suffered a stroke in 1993 from which he never fully recovered. Candid Camera started on radio as Candid Microphone. Moved to television in 1948. Some form of the program has been on the air ever since. The program reached its zenith in the 1960s with a 7-year run on CBS. Other than news, was the first "reality based" program, pav ng the way for "Cops," "America's Most Wanted" and other programs of the genre. When you least expected, you're elected, it's your lucky day Smile, you're on Candid Camera. With our hocus pocus, you're in focus, you're the star today Smile, you're on Candid Camera. It's fun to look at yourself, it's the tonic, tried and true, It's fun to laugh at yourself, as other people do. How's your sense of humor? There's a rumor You'll go far today. Smile, you're on Candid Camera.

Smile!

Jim "Catfish" Hunter, righthanded pitcher, clubhouse prankster extroadinaire, and legendary barroom brawler. Cy Young Award winner. Ace hurler of the dynastic Oakland A's in the early 1970s of ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease). Age 53. Between the A's and Yankees, was on five World Series champions. When Hunter was drafted out of high school by the A's, iconoclastic team owner Charles O. Finley asked, "What's your nickname?" Hunter said, "I don't have one." "What do you like to do," Finley probed. "Hunt and fish," the genial Southerner replied. "This is your story," Finley said. "Remember it. When you were six years old you ran away from home with your fishing pole. Your parents looked all day for you and when they finally found you, around three o'clock that afternoon, you had caught two catfish and was reeling in a third. You have been 'Catfish' ever since." And what a magnificent "Cat" he was. Jim Hunter. Baseball legend and Hall of Famer.

And his team mates say he was very generous. He always bought eveyone food and drinks.

true suthahnuh!

Actress Ruth Roman Dead at 75 LAGUNA BEACH, Calif. (AP) -- Ruth Roman, who starred opposite Gary Cooper and Errol Flynn and survived the Andrea Doria wreck at sea, has died. She was 75. Roman died Thursday in her sleep at her Laguna Beach home, said her son, Richard Hall. In 1956, she and her son -- then 3 -- were returning from Italy aboard the luxury passenger liner Andrea Doria when it was struck by another ship. More than fifty people died and 760 survived after the ship went down. The Boston-born actress got her start in community plays at age 9. She attended drama school and later moved to Hollywood. Roman appeared in some minor films before her big break in Stanley Kramer's 1949 "Champion," which featured Kirk Douglas as an unscrupulous boxer. Following the film, Warner Bros. offered Roman a contract and she starred in nine films in less than two years opposite Cooper, Flynn and James Stewart. Roman also appeared in "Beyond the Forest" with Bette Davis, "Three Secrets" with Patricia Neal and "Mara Maru" with Flynn. Her other films included "The Far Country" with Stewart, "Bitter Victory" with Richard Burton and "Dallas" with Cooper. In all, Roman appeared in more than 30 movies, most of them in the 1950s, and a number of television shows in the 1960s and 1970s, including "Naked City," "Knots Landing" and "Murder She Wrote." Roman once told The [New York Times] of her shipwreck experience that she never feared she would or her son would die. She said she was dancing on board the Andrea Doria when, "We heard a big explosion, like a firecracker." When it became clear the ship was sinking, passengers began piling into lifeboats. With her son, she climbed down a rope ladder to one of the boats, but it pulled away before they could hop on. Soon they were put on another lifeboat.

Jazz Trumpeter Harry 'Sweets' Edison Dead At 83 (7/28/99, 1 p.m. PDT) - Jazz trumpeter Harry "Sweets" Edison, whose distinguishable soft sound led to a professional career working with a long list of famous singers and big-band leaders, died Tuesday (July 27) in Columbus, Ohio after a lengthy battle with prostate cancer. He was 83. Born in Columbus in 1915, Edison began playing professionally at the age of 12, and was soon performing with the Jeter-Pillars Orchestra in Cleveland and St. Louis. As a teen, he played with the Lucky Millinder band in New York. By the time he was 18, he had joined the Count Basie Orchestra, where Basie saxophonist Lester Young later gave him the nickname "Sweets" to describe his playing style. After the Basie band split up in 1950, Edison found himself in high demand as a session player for a variety of top-name vocalists. Throughout the decade, he logged time performing with Billie Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald, Josephine Baker, Frank Sinatra, and Nat 'King' Cole. Edison also launched a solo career during this period, an endeavor that eventually yielded nearly three dozen releases, from Sweets at The Haig in the early 1950s to Live At The Iridium in 1997. In addition to playing with his own group, he appeared on the rosters of a number of big bands through the years, including those of Buddy Rich, Quincy Jones, Henry Mancini and Nelson Riddle. Though he had relocated to Los Angeles for much of his career, Edison's deteriorating health prompted him to return to his hometown of Columbus late in 1998. He had continued to perform, however, bringing his trademark sound to audiences with a trip to Europe last spring, and was scheduled to play at the Long Beach Jazz Festival in California this coming weekend. Edison is survived by his daughter, Helena.

Reuters news 'Honeymooners' creator dies LOS ANGELES, SEPTEMBER 15 � Veteran comedy writer Harry Crane, who created the Jackie Gleason TV classic ``The Honeymooners'' and wrote gags for some of the funniest men in show business, has died at age 85, a spokesman said Wednesday. Crane succumbed to cancer Monday night at his Beverly Hills home, according to publicist Warren Cowan, who also was Crane's son-in-law. During a career that spanned half a century, Crane wrote jokes and sketches for such comic greats as Milton Berle, Jimmy Durante, Abbott and Costello, Laurel and Hardy, the Marx Bros., Dean Martin, Jerry Lewis, Joey Bishop, Danny Thomas, Henny Youngman and Red Skelton. But he is perhaps best remembered for giving birth to ``The Honeymooners,'' which started out as a 1951 comedy sketch Crane wrote featuring Gleason as New York bus driver Ralph Kramden, who is forever hatching get-rich-quick schemes with his sewer worker pal Ed Norton (Art Carney). The bit first appeared that year as part of the early DuMont television network's ``Cavalcade of Stars,'' then became a fixture on the CBS variety series ``The Jackie Gleason Show'' before being expanded into its own half-hour sitcom in 1955. As a principal writer for the Gleason variety show, Crane also helped create a number of Gleason's other signature characters. ``The Honeymooners,'' which co-starred Carney, Audrey Meadows and Joyce Randolph, aired just 39 episodes before leaving the air in 1956, but the classic series has enjoyed a considerable rerun after-life in syndication. The Brooklyn-born Crane began his showbiz career at age 19 as a standup comic in the ``Borscht Belt'' and was later recruited by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer as a writer. He made his screenwriting debut with the 1943 Laurel and Hardy comedy ``Air Raid Wardens,'' and his credits also include ''The Harvey Girls'' (1946), starring Judy Garland, and ``Song of the Thin Man'' (1947) with William Powell and Myrna Loy. Moving into television in the 1950s, Crane developed long-term relationships with a new generation of entertainers, -- among them Gleason, Berle, Martin, Perry Como and Dinah Shore -- for whom he wrote series and specials. His TV credits include a number of major awards shows during the '50s, '60s and '70s. He also is credited with giving a career boost to such promising young comedy writers as Mel Brooks, Neil Simon and Garry Marshall, and he continued to contribute nuggets of humor to the biggest names in Hollywood until falling seriously ill several months ago. Crane is survived by his wife, Lillian, two daughters, three grandchildren and four great-grandchildren.

"One day, Alice! POW! Right to the moon!"

Lemme guess - that comet-discovering chap? But he died a while ago... (Wolf: Sorry.)

And so did Jackie Gleason, the guy famous for delivering that line.

Oscar winner George C. Scott died Wednesday (Sep. 22, 1999) at his home in the Los Angeles suburb of Westlake Village. He was 71. Cause of death was not immediately disclosed. Scott won the best-actor Oscar in 1970 for his performance in the title role of Patton (1970). Critic John Gillett said at the time: "Here is an actor so totally immersed in his part that he almost makes you believe he is the man himself." However, Scott refused to attend the Oscar ceremonies or even to accept the statuette, claiming that the Oscar race was a pointless contest that failed to contribute to the betterment of the industry or the acting profession. Scott was born October 18, 1927, in Wise, Virginia. He made three critically acclaimed cable movies in the last three years Inherit the Wind (1999), a remake of the classic about the historic Scopes Monkey Trial, Rocky Marciano (1999), in which he played the father of the late, great "Brockton (Mass.) Blockbuster", the undefeated heavyweight champion (1948-52), and a remake of Reginald Rose's award winning 12 Angry Men (1996), a jury-room drama in which he played Juror #3, the embitt red antagonist.

From CNN Plane slams into side of Hawaiian volcano, killing 10 September 26, 1999 Web posted at: 8:43 p.m. EDT (0043 GMT) From staff and wire reports KAILUA KONA, Hawaii (CNN) -- Ten people on board a twin-engine sightseeing airplane died when it crashed on the side of Hawaii's Mauna Loa volcano. Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Diana Joubert said search crews located the wreckage at 6:30 a.m. Sunday at an elevation of about 10,500 feet. The volcano reaches 13,679 feet. Rescue crews later reached the remote site on the "big island" of Hawaii, where they found no survivors. The PA-31/350 Piper Chieftain, with a pilot and nine passengers, was operated by Big Island Airlines, which offers regularly scheduled sightseeing tours. "The plane was totally demolished, just like a plane would be if it went into rocks at a high rate of speed," said Doug Lentz, spokesman for Hawaii Volcanoes National Park, where Mauna Loa is located. "It's pretty rough terrain on the side of the volcano, with plenty of lava fields," said Roy Mann, the airline's operations director. Identities of the victims were not immediately released. The recovered bodies were being flown by helicopter to the city of Hilo on the east side of the island. The plane had taken off about 4:30 p.m. Saturday for a tour of Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea, two dormant volcanoes. About three hours later, Big Island officials notified Kona International Airport that the plane was an hour overdue. Searchers began looking for the plane but suspended their search when darkness fell. They resumed the search Sunday morning and found the plane about an hour later, Joubert said. Since a large part of the island is inaccessible by car, air tours are a popular way to see it, including the active Kilauea volcano. Helicopters and planes fly near the bubbling summit and then over nearby valleys to view rainbows and waterfalls. From John Burnett (who was on the air during the morning and had to scramble for his coverage: The plane crash in Hawaii Sat. eve. Sep. 25 was here on the Big Island. Was a two-engine tourist plane, a Piper Navajo Chieftain, with 10 aboard, including the pilot. It took off from Kona airport on the west side of the island at 4:22 p.m. Was reported missing shortly after 6 p.m. A Coast Guard helicopter discovered the still smoldering wreckage on the northeastern slopes of Mauna Loa (on the Hilo side) shortly after 6 a.m. Sunday. The plane, which was 16 years old and considered relatively young and airworthy, had slammed into the side of the mountain. Weather conditions were unknown. The last transmission from the pilot, who had worked for Big Island Air, the tour plane company, for over five years, was a request to enter restricted airspace, nothing unusual for a tour plane. It is the first mishap ever for Big Island Air. As of this posting, no names of victims have been released, but all ten aboard are confirmed dead. The wreckage was charred and most, if not all, will have to be ID'd through dental records.

Boy, that's so tragic.

euw, i heard about this on the news. very sad indeed.

The last I heard they were still hunting for the remains of the 10th victim. It is very rugged terrain up on that a'a flow...That is another job I am glad someone else is willing to do...ID'ing the charred remains of crash victims!

sad that they have to look for teeth just to figure out who they were. i pray those people didn't suffer.

If you saw the picture of the plane, the entire front 2/3rds is disintegrated into a few pieces of metal. Those people never knew what they hit or what hit them... Mercifully!

no, didn't see the actual footage.

I'd rather not.

Isn't it amazing how death slaps one in the face every time you open a newspaper or switch on the TV?

yup. number 1 reason NOT to have a tv

I refuse to watch the news. I don't mind blood and gore in movies - but for real I just can't handle it.

I agree...I once asked my son when he was in mid-teen years if violence on TV made him desensitized to real carnage on the news. He immediately looked at me like I was some sort of mental deficient and told me TV is just acting. Real stuff on news they cannot wash off and go home for the night to their families. Where did today's kids get desensitized? and, How?!