~wolf
Sun, Jul 5, 1998 (23:33)
seed
~stacey
Mon, Jul 6, 1998 (14:54)
#1
I am certainly feeling the loss of the previous topic...
there were some truly beautiful thoughts and images floating around in there.
~Wolf
Mon, Jul 6, 1998 (19:50)
#2
yes, i know, sorry for no warning.
~stacey
Tue, Jul 7, 1998 (15:59)
#3
no 'sorry's Wolf -- I am merely musing selfish thoughts.
~KitchenManager
Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (02:53)
#4
as were those of us who posted in there...
~stacey
Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (15:21)
#5
stealing someone else's words...
(from a small poetry book I discovered in a even smaller used bookstore some years ago)
SHE TELLS THE TRUTH
by Ruth Danon
Invention is not enough.
These are facts
and you need to know them.
In 50 million years
Los Angeles will crowd
into the Aleutian Islands
and chill slowly into the Arctic night.
The Red Sea will dwarf the Mediterranean;
the timing will be better.
There will be no new oceans
and no new continents
but Oaxaca, where you and I
have never been together,
will sink gently into the water.
By then we will have known
each other through
millions of lifetimes. Maybe we'd be wiser
and we'd know what to do.
The equator is where it is
because that position is half way
between the poles.
The prime meridian
was an arbitrary choice.
Columbus thought the world
looked like a pear
and he was right. He had
no reason for this speculation.
Some facts are worth explaining.
Right now I can think only
of the wind in Chicago
and how I would rather
do anything with my life
than hurt yours.
There's more to making a map
than taking a few aerial photographs.
Invention isn't enough
and on this sea green planet
there's more going on than you know,
more than you can imagine.
How good a map is depends
on the ability of the mapper
to interpret what she sees on the surface.
I'm having a harder time with your face
than I had with the moon.
When continents bump up against
each other they leave scars and ridges
on the earth's crust. There's
a slow bleeding of lava
onto the ocean floor.
It took centuries to create
the delicate instruments of measurement
used by cartographers. Still,
triangulation from a known point
remains the basis of geodesy.
~pmnh
Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (15:52)
#6
"maybe we'd be wiser
and we'd know what to do"...
(i liked this poem very much, stacey)
~KitchenManager
Wed, Jul 8, 1998 (17:41)
#7
thanks, Stacey...
~wolf
Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (19:20)
#8
Sorry
And so you assumed I said
A thing. You flatter yourself.
I was lured by mere words.
In my heart, I knew them to
Be that and that alone. So
Speak naught of it, tis over
And I have learned and you have too.
Words can be misconstrued
Even by the sincerest ear.
~KitchenManager
Wed, Aug 12, 1998 (03:23)
#9
(and the most loving heart...)
~pmnh
Thu, Sep 24, 1998 (14:45)
#10
(hey)
contemplating one or other
lying noble roman
searching the bottom of
the row
(of the history shelf)
absently even
less aware
than usually i am
turned abruptly to
my right
without thinking or glancing
not giving a damn
(for oncoming traffic
you know) i nearly plowed
her to the ground (poor thing,
nearly murdered randomly
on a saturday afternoon
at waldenbooks
by a book-drunk stranger
who
should've had his browsing
licence qualified long ago)-
a pretty one, she was-
kind eyes, brown and wide
and an amused ironic mouth-
and a smile that graced
even reckless men
that menaced
chain-store aisles-
mumbled apologies, so little
aware was i-
'no problem', said she, looking
up at me, still smiling
as she squeezed on by-
and i-
and i-
i looked at her-
began the descent
into my favored hell-
nothing beneath me
to break my fall-
just fell
and fell
and fell
into the place
where's kept her face
and i reduced
and she was not
and nothing
nothing nothing
nothing was i.
contemplating romans
at waldenbooks
nothing was all.
~KitchenManager
Thu, Sep 24, 1998 (19:06)
#11
nice (been there and done that myself),
as is seeing you around, Nick...
you ought to go check out
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/screwed/all
I can see your Celtic barbs working wonders in there...
~wolf
Thu, Sep 24, 1998 (21:13)
#12
good piece and welcome back
~pmnh
Mon, Sep 28, 1998 (13:40)
#13
thanks, y'all
(ummm, should've been "nothing was all"...
stead of "nothing was i"... hmmm, yeah...)
(freudian slip i suppose)...
checking the site out, wer... thanks
~pmnh
Mon, Sep 28, 1998 (14:11)
#14
(no title)
If delusion it is
It's of the purest degree.
And though it less
It belongs to me,
And purely.
And if it so-
If less is
Me- if more
Believing illusioning
Fantasy-
Was so, from the start.
But even so-
EVEN SO-
Cannot cannot
Dissuade diminish
Deter dismiss
This dimming damned
Deficiency
(that beats
in me).
Delusion, so pure
Is true.
And enough
(in you). All
(in me).
~wolf
Mon, Sep 28, 1998 (14:14)
#15
so how long is it gonna be before i have to kill this topic? (re: words floating around out there)
this piece has a lot of d's in it....almost a tongue twister, but done in your style-nicely
~wolf
Wed, Sep 30, 1998 (23:16)
#16
sheesh, no offense....
~pmnh
Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (13:55)
#17
geez louise
(none taken)
you make a relevent point re:'words floating around' and all... i
am appropriately chastened... nearly coherent (sometimes happens,
brief interludes, coincidence with expression rare but occasional)...
(sorry)
~wolf
Fri, Oct 2, 1998 (18:39)
#18
good to see you around. you doing ok?
~pmnh
Wed, Oct 7, 1998 (18:21)
#19
yup...
(and you?)
~wolf
Wed, Oct 7, 1998 (23:19)
#20
just busy as a beaver (almost literally-no trees down on my account)
~KitchenManager
Fri, Oct 9, 1998 (00:43)
#21
maybe, but it's still a helluva dam, Wolf!
~wolf
Fri, Oct 9, 1998 (11:55)
#22
haha!!!
~pmnh
Sun, Nov 15, 1998 (05:02)
#23
wrote this tonight... has no title...
never forgiven this earth
that gave and took you
away. cold careening amoral
rock that hid you
under dirt.
never forgiven the boy
who loved Love more
than love could take. who
for the sake of Love
and Pure- spent your
love away.
it's all finished, that time
ago. unforgiven, all we
turn and spin and breathe
and be as if you hadn't
been.
what more to say, that
isn't said? nothing left
but for that i've bled
and left undone.
sleep, and well,
my dreaming one-
and the face of night
which is become
the ghost of all your days
but touched
will merge to one- one light
and such as star or sun
as heaven's never seen-
till you are free
(of all, of me)
and dreaming
better dreams.
~wolf
Sun, Nov 15, 1998 (12:11)
#24
very sad
~stacey
Mon, Nov 16, 1998 (16:28)
#25
beautiful
~TIM
Mon, Nov 16, 1998 (23:02)
#26
Title it. Publish it. Write more!!
~stacey
Tue, Nov 17, 1998 (10:27)
#27
nick, are we going to hear from you ever again after you move?
~pmnh
Wed, Nov 18, 1998 (22:31)
#28
yep, i imagine... sure i'll be online
purty quick...
(and i'm gonna miss austin really really bad... just
leaving texas is traumatic, too... every time i've
done it in the past, and i've done it a couple of times,
i was really homesick... and it's funny, really, cause
there's so many things about this state that embarrass
me... but damn i love it)
(not so bad moving off to colorado, i should think... being
that colorado's rightfully a part of texas anyway)
oh, and thank y'all for what you said bout the poem... it's
nice, i appreciate it
~pmnh
Thu, Nov 19, 1998 (04:08)
#29
(damn)
from belly cross
to nervous thigh
lingering
at the gentle swell
of your hip-
the subtle ripening
angle there
the delicate sway
dancing girl swimming
in sheets
writhing, to rhythm
writ on wanting skin
from wanting finger
tips
~TIM
Thu, Nov 19, 1998 (05:26)
#30
I like it. you ought to publish.
~wolf
Thu, Nov 19, 1998 (08:46)
#31
erotic, nick....
~pmnh
Thu, Dec 3, 1998 (07:36)
#32
wrote this yesterday... sort of a bridge/continuation thing for some
ideas banging around a few months now...
has no title, really...
1 (rememberance)
gape-mouthed
flailing at a scorning moon
light entered in. stars
ground to vapor dreams
then swallowed full
light the way to dark
leeching lessening
coming thick and dull
and blunt as failing fingertip's
reaching fumbling grip-
the waste of mind
the want of heart
thick as droning moments
ticking dissonant parts
rigoured- not bidden
or aware
(no matter.
it is on the air)
the thing impends. and so
more it is than ken
can coalesce
to even one idea
of might or would. But
closing eyes, waking, could
(would and did)
forget. And Dream can
mingle every all- can
bleed into some better whole-
and falter, at it's end. It
too, must serve that
best unto- so impervious
is unconcious to- that
damned impend.
Certain, i
within the curse
of darkening mind
and Reason's worth
then reason's final
utter waste-
humans blind
epochs dead-
centuries strung
from undreaming heads
(the dull the purposed men)
flung from out
the hands of we
asleep, in rhapsodic reveries
of never-certain dreams
(memory, transfixed and steeped
within
some lingering lulling imagining
sin
of Never Was
and Never Be).
Certain to empty
empty to waste
waste to absence
of every trace
of thinking's dreams
or dreaming's thought-
'til we are become
what others be- bought
from out a legacy
of never-yielding need.
2 (intent)
Upon this city
in sleep
(not)light descends
and casts a pall
of forgetfulness over
each roof. Morning
bends what's left, within
that silence- each bitter
reproof
of belief conformed
with dying days. And
promises, remembered
in the dreaming
haze
are mirrored
in the imaged
words of men-
reforming, receding-
becoming, again
connected-seeming
days.
�
Perversity, this. Time
forms whole; and
sensation diminishes, every
one. Replenish each, in
it's time.
Uttering each- let
metered rhyme
transform the seeming way.
Absolve them all,
from their curse
and by one thread
of slender verse
dissolve
corrupted day.
3 (consolation)
cold here now. fading light
through the square little window
above my bed mirrors in aspect
cold- rhythms dead- imaged
chaos in my head. i could- in a chosen
instant could- decompose.
each wasted breath,
thought, want, sensory
perception beating there-
wash away. that
i don't- this instant, next-
means some little thing
less. being man of Man-
fool of Fools- given, thus am
to subversion's rule-
i subvert too.
no less than any-
undoubtedly so-
this is the single rule
of that i know: follow
that light, however it goes-
follow it, whether it to
some store of love mislaid
in a dreaming heart or within the blackest
waste of that some way come dark-
follow, whether you live at midnight
or noon, whether your god speaks sun
or moon- follow that light, dissolving through
every spiralling eternity misspent
upon your disappearing
soul-
(it is there to go
then to know-
finally Finally FINALLY
know-
each little thing that's left
to know)
4 (postscript)
("remember him
poor dreaming thing-
didn't know, from one
to next
wherefore to think or go
or be- he was swallowed
up, finally, in his
goddamn poetry
pass the potatoes won't
you please?")
~stacey
Thu, Dec 10, 1998 (19:04)
#33
i lose myself in the words sometimes nick
your words can make me feel so lonely, so loved, so hopeless...
they are not meant for me
yet the come across so forcefully
i sometimes dream about the images
thank you for sharing again
~KitchenManager
Fri, Dec 11, 1998 (00:16)
#34
Nice to be able to read your stuff again, Nick.
Thank you.
~PT
Fri, Dec 11, 1998 (12:34)
#35
That was good. I was sorry to see it end.
~pmnh
Sun, Dec 13, 1998 (13:12)
#36
thanks y'all
your words are encouraging, and appreciated
(the words are meant for anyone that braves
them... only hope the images/dreams aren't
too difficult to endure)
~KitchenManager
Mon, Dec 14, 1998 (01:06)
#37
nothing, I think, is too difficult to endure with the right words...
~stacey
Mon, Dec 14, 1998 (17:16)
#38
nick, they've created new characters in my mind... i think about them and they've actually triggered a few brief verses of my own creation.
(have you moved?)
~pmnh
Tue, Dec 15, 1998 (06:29)
#39
that's really cool stacey... thanks for
telling me that...
(you mind telling me what kind of characters
you mean? and i know that you've been sort
of reticent bout posting your own verses...
but if you ever did, know that i... everyone...
would feel honored to read them)
far as moving, just half-way... currently in houston,
trying to wrap up some outstanding business...
still have my apartment in rollingwood till the end
of the month, hotel room in vancouver, where we'll
probably stay till summer... this past months, been
dividing my time between there and austin, but should
be there more or less fulltime before christmas...
~KitchenManager
Tue, Dec 15, 1998 (23:10)
#40
(I'd like to second Nick's aside, Stace)
~stacey
Wed, Dec 16, 1998 (18:45)
#41
(pretending I'm ignoring you both, although am incredibly honored by your interest... still thinking about violating that false sense of security I hold so dear and near)
~KitchenManager
Wed, Dec 16, 1998 (19:24)
#42
(and after all we've done...would it help to beg?)
~PT
Thu, Dec 17, 1998 (13:56)
#43
I would also like to see some of your poetry, Stacey.
~wolf
Sun, Jan 31, 1999 (12:43)
#44
ok, this piece probably doesn't belong here, but it is about loss and it's new....
I have no poems to write
Gone are they from my muse.
Lacking inspiration, only excuses
Flow from my pen and I waste
Precious energy to appease
The empty paper that I long
To fill up with sounds.
Yet I keep marking the lines
With empty, lonely sentences.
Is it to prove that I write?
To enjoy fulfilment from my labor?
What a lie to Vanity!
And have we not all lost
A moment or two to Time?
So is this it? My talent
Truly gone away forever?
Or a mere lull in my
Movement through Life?
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 31, 1999 (21:20)
#45
just a lull
(i'm sure of it)
~wolf
Sun, Jan 31, 1999 (21:21)
#46
thanks sweetie!
~KitchenManager
Mon, Feb 1, 1999 (00:23)
#47
once again,
I'd have to agree with Nick...
~wolf
Mon, Feb 1, 1999 (11:15)
#48
*hugs*
~wolf
Mon, Aug 16, 1999 (22:36)
#49
alright, stacey, we're still waiting for your poetry! (and yes, the muse of mine is still AWOL)
~pmnh
Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (21:36)
#50
how're yall?
been gone awhile... been pretty much offline, mostly...
living in seattle...
(miss texas a lot)...
anyway... it's august...
the twenty-fifth marks twenty years...
so... this is for teri...
there was a park here once.
oleander bushes and ponderosa pines.
a seesaw, missing a bolt-
shimmying action, good
for a jolt, if you weren't ready,
coming down.
swings were...over there. the type
with plastic seats, weathered
black- affixed to squeaking chains
that screamed to heaven
and back- over and over again
when the northside kids let out
of school at 3pm. and she liked
the swings but just to sit sometimes
and think. or gently rock
as we would talk
when i first began
to know her, then (and she
was fifteen).
we played horse sometimes
(between horsing around)
on the half-moon court
with the rusted hoop
and the chain-link net.
will never forget
the trinkling, swishing sound
of 'e' rolling in
that first time we played
(when i let her win.
and no better proof of love
nor more profound
has ever been
than that).
it seemed an eternity that day
enduring, to that kiss.
she was standing with her back against
a crooked tallow tree
and her head was raised, just slightly
anticipating me.
such breathless terror
persuading lips
those lips one foot opposed
could, in this life,
or any, desire
the touch of a thing composed
so poorly, as this trembling
mouth.
but when i worked the nerve
at length
to form my lips with hers-
i found therein my moment
and bound my love to hers
and to every fragile thing that is-
then's not. and tied myself
to stars.
no park here now.
the city deemed this place in need
of further cement. and too many trees
detracts from the spirit of urban
renewal, i guess. but nothing's static.
everything goes- changes, to some
lesser/greater/different thing. whether
it's the languid thoughts of a poet
replacing a living girl
or a parking meter for a swing
everything alters
and we endure
from change to brutal change.
convicted, as we are, in what is-
but still connected
and buffered
by stars.
yeah... that's the end of that... gonna re-post one i posted
awile back, if y'all don't mind...
never forgiven this earth
that gave and took you
away. cold careening amoral
rock that hid you
under dirt.
never forgiven the boy
who loved Love more
than love could take. who
for the sake of Love
and Pure- spent your
love away.
all was finished, that time
ago. unforgiven, all we
turn and spin and breathe
and be as if you hadn't
been.
what more to say, that
isn't said? nothing left
but for that i've bled
and left undone
sleep, and well,
my dreaming one-
and the face of night
which is become
the ghost of all your days
but touched
will merge to one- one light,
and such as star or sun
that heaven's never seen-
till you are free
(of all, of me)
dreaming
better dreams.
anyway... twenty years...
hard to believe...
~wolf
Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (21:39)
#51
thanks for trusting us with it again, nick. glad to see you back, please come by more often *hugs*
~MarciaH
Sun, Aug 22, 1999 (22:28)
#52
Painful and profound, Nick. My belated sympathies for something too soon taken from you. Thank you for sharing.
~KitchenManager
Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (17:11)
#53
thanks, Nick, just drank a toast for her again...
and I second Wolf in telling you to bring your
butt around here more often...
~stacey
Tue, Aug 24, 1999 (17:12)
#54
and I third it...
(drinkin' already?!?! I'm envious...)
./
~paula
Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (03:12)
#55
thanks yall... we're not drinking tonight, though...
(at least not yet)...
paula read at the world poetry cafe, in vancouver, earlier...
(she read 'sir'... knocked 'em dead... she's been reading
a great deal, both in vancouver and in seattle)... now she's
playing pool (not exactly knocking 'em dead)(but she's enthusiastic)...
anyway... yeah, that's that, i guess...
~stacey
Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (10:36)
#56
congrats to paula!
btw, I noticed living in the northwest hasn't taken the Texan outta ya, just the apostrophe outta ya'll...
what about you nick?? reading? writing? working? playing?
~mrchips
Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (22:47)
#57
I guess I gotta drawl "y'all" to fit in here. I noticed most--but not all--of the poetry here is original--and quite good I might add. I think this is quite good (or I wouldn't post it) but it isn't original. Oh, well. It IS a poem of loss.
When You are Old
When you are old and gray and full of sleep,
And nodding by the fire, take down this book,
And slowly read, and dream of the soft look
Your eyes had once, and of their shadows deep;
How many loved your moments of glad grace,
And loved your beauty with love false or true,
But one man loved the pilgrim soul in you,
And loved the sorrows of your changing face;
And bending down beside the glowing bars,
Murmur, a little sadly, how Love fled
And paced upon the mountains overhead
And hid his face amid a crowd of stars.
--W. B. Yeats
(when you're not as talented as Nick, Paula, or Wolf, cite a master...)
~MarciaH
Thu, Aug 26, 1999 (22:52)
#58
Lovely, John. You cannot be talented in ALL the arts...you are mortal, after all. However, before I swallow that modesty whole I might remind you that elsewhere on this conference there are original poems by you - very good ones, too. No false modesty here, I beg you!
~moonbeam
Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (00:37)
#59
Thank you all. I am no master either, so bring this to the table:
It might be lonelier
Without the Loneliness -
I'm so accustomed to my Fate -
Perhaps the Other - Peace -
Would interrupt the Dark -
And crowd the little Room -
Too scant - by Cubits - to contain
The Sacrament - of Him -
I am not used to Hope -
It might intrude upon -
Its sweet parade - blaspheme the place -
Ordained to Suffering -
It might be easier
To fail - with Land in Sight -
Than gain - My Blue Peninsula -
To perish - of Delight -
Emily Dickinson, 1862
~mrchips
Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (02:31)
#60
Amazing that Dickinson only published somewhere between 8 and 11 poems in her own lifetime and those were edited (not to her satisfaction). Thank God, someone mined the "gold" she left in her steamer trunk!
~stacey
Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (18:02)
#61
(and you can't sing it to the tune of The Yellow Rose of Texas... YEA!!)
~MarciaH
Fri, Aug 27, 1999 (19:34)
#62
...or the New York City version..The Yellow Rows of Taxis. (sorry...)
~stacey
Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (16:08)
#63
funny!
i like it!
~mrchips
Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (18:58)
#64
Space Available
In the chill before dawn
when the alarm clock clatters for my attention
and the rooster insists he spoke first
I snap out of my rapid-eye reverie.
Sometimes I reach out to stroke the vacant place
where your hair made the down inside the now lonely pillow
jealous of its softness.
--John Burnett, copyright 1993
~stacey
Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (19:15)
#65
MMMmmm...
I like...
~mrchips
Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (19:44)
#66
Thanks, Stacey.
~MarciaH
Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (20:03)
#67
I am getting painful intimacy here again...perhaps I should read these when I am old and jaded. Lovely, John...I am so sorry!
~mrchips
Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (20:12)
#68
Thank you...my poetry professor (Alan McNarie) made me write one that doesn't rhyme--he always preferred free verse and I always seem to write stuff with rhyme and rhythm...it was therapy (the subject matter, not the free verse) when I wrote it...now I actually like it.
~moonbeam
Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (20:16)
#69
Poignant and evocative, John.
~MarciaH
Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (20:24)
#70
Your professor, Alan McNarie, has written some really fantastic stuff. You need to put some of it in Poetry in the appropriate places...please!
~mrchips
Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (20:29)
#71
He is a terrific poet...he's also very territorial about his stuff. I would have to contact him first. He's been a little scarce--and way underemployed lately. The university screwed up when they didn't give him tenure.
~MarciaH
Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (20:34)
#72
You're kidding!!! Why was he denied tenure when we have sodden jerks here with no value sitting on their okoles and not inspiring either student or colleague... makes me furious!
~mrchips
Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (21:18)
#73
I believe there was some jealousy among two professors on his tenure committee. One said that he wasn't helpful enough with ESL students (he had a complaint from a loud disgruntled Korean student) and the other said that he hadn't authored enough "scholarly articles in refereed professional journals." Amazing...and sad. At the time, his first novel had just won the prestigious Pushcart Small Press award and he has published dozens of poems in nationally recognized literary reviews. Scholarly articles,
my okole. He was a writing instructor, not a scientist. I'll tell you who those professors were if you remind me when we talk in person. I'm not about to say anything in print that may get back to them. I still occasionally take courses from the University.
~wolf
Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (21:19)
#74
good piece, john!
~wolf
Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (21:19)
#75
hey! you two were supposed to wait til i got through! *grin*
~mrchips
Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (21:23)
#76
Thanks, ladies (Stacey, Marcia, Nan, Wolf). I appreciate it.
~MarciaH
Wed, Sep 1, 1999 (21:27)
#77
Talk to you this weekend...I will endeavor to remember (making note to put in cash box for t-shirt sales...)and we shall talk story...
~pmnh
Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (20:57)
#78
(stacey)
some of all, i s'pose...
(reading/writing/working/playing)
(etc)...
very coolish up here...
very un-texaslike in just about every way,
but i'm adjusting...
(in my fashion)...
(what about you?)
both the yeats and the dickinson were lovely,
by the way... and john- while i, too, find
myself drawn to the discipline of (mostly
discarded, these days) form- i thought your
verse well-made, and moving...
(paula wrote this)
(but everything above nick wrote)
(if that makes any sense at all):
(yes... very much liked the piece, john- reminds me
of a cummings poem, actually... lemme see if
i can find it, hold on-)
"Sometimes I reach out to stroke the vacant place
where your hair made the down inside the now lonely pillow
jealous of its softness...."
[27]
"... - before leaving my room
i turn, and(stooping
through the morning)kiss
this pillow,dear
where our heads lived and were"
thats what your poem made me think of... thank you for posting it.
she's done now... back on her own damn terminal (we're at an internet
cafe, in vancouver)... going to a laborday poetry picnic thing in a few
minutes, on the beach... gonna be some kind of live hookup with some
san antonio poets, which sounds very cool... though why anyone would
start a picnic (labor day, otherwise) at seven o'clock at night is
a little confusing (but they're very peculiar here, in many ways)...
~MarciaH
Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (21:17)
#79
It sounds like Hawaii, Nick. Perhaps they are too hot and laid back to do much musing before dark?!
~mrchips
Mon, Sep 6, 1999 (23:30)
#80
anytime my poetry can remind someone of cummings, I am beyond flattered. Thanks Nick and Paula.
~stacey
Fri, Sep 17, 1999 (17:52)
#81
nick:
(stacey)
some of all, i s'pose...
(reading/writing/working/playing)
(etc)...
very coolish up here...
very un-texaslike in just about every way,
but i'm adjusting...
(in my fashion)...
(what about you?)
coolish mood wise?
or temperature wise?
a little of both?
or a little of none?
I think I'm dreamy comfortable in a realistic sorta way...
fantasizing about running away with B to marry...
wine country and sunshine and more fresh air than I could ever possibly fill my lungs with...
*deep breath*
surrounding myself with that love as we exchange vows... making it more than words... more than pretty pictures for posterity... making it breaths breathed in unison
yes... dreamy.
writing in my head... cursing laziness while I actively refuse to scribble thoughts onto paper...
lotsa thoughts though.
good ones and silly ones and grown up feeling ones...
I'm pretty comfortable nick.
this place is very un-texaslike in many ways
... i think I have adjusted.
I have a real cozy, shady but warm home inside my house and in my circle of happiness...
(and in this topic... I guess i have only recently lost my fear and lonliness and weariness...
never fear... I'm sure I'll stumble upon it again one day.)
~mrchips
Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (20:25)
#82
by Robert Bly
A man told me once that all the bad people
Were needed. Maybe not all, but your fingernails
You need; they are really claws, and we know
Claws. The sharks--what about them?
They make other fish swim faster. The hard-faced men
In black coats who chase you for hours
In dreams--that's the only way to get you
To the shore. Sometimes those hard women
Who abandon you get you to say, "You."
A lazy part of us is like a tumbleweed.
It doesn't move on its own. It takes sometimes
A lot of Depression to get tumbleweeds moving.
Then they blow across three or four States.
This man told me that things work together.
Bad handwriting sometimes leads to new ideas;
And a careless God--who refuses to let you
Eat from the Tree of Knowledge--can lead
To books, and eventually to us. We write
Poems with lies in them, but they help a little.
~MarciaH
Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (20:46)
#83
Thanks for that, John. This is a place I fear to come when I feel vulnerable - as I do today. Yes, those poems with little lies in them help a little...!
~mrchips
Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (20:50)
#84
One of the all-time great movie lines is from Jeff Goldblum in "The Big Chill":
"I don't know if I can make it through a day without a nice, big, juicy rationalization or two." (or something like that)
~MarciaH
Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (20:52)
#85
Stace, that is lovely. I hope you let Brandon see it...you heart and soul have found their home.
~mrchips
Sun, Oct 3, 1999 (21:11)
#86
That is nice, Stacey...you have a poetic touch even when you are (just) answering a post. But it seems basically everyone who enters here has that.
~pmnh
Wed, Oct 6, 1999 (23:29)
#87
damn, stacey... that was so beautiful... really happy for
you (and brandon)...
glad, too, that you're feeling so at home...
but-
'untexas-like'?
(colorado being, after all- rightfully- texas
northern-most county)
~moonbeam
Thu, Oct 7, 1999 (19:40)
#88
Oh, life is glorious cycle of song,
A medley of extemporanea;
And love is a thing that can never go wrong;
And I am Marie of Roumania.
--Dorothy Parker
~MarciaH
Fri, Oct 8, 1999 (19:14)
#89
Thanks for that, Nan...the first laugh this place has gotten from me
in a very long time!
~mrchips
Sat, Oct 9, 1999 (03:29)
#90
Great, Nan! Dorothy Parker is one of my favorites...a first-rate wit, which she had to be to keep up with the rest of the wags of the Algonquin Round Table.
One Perfect Rose
A single flow'r he sent me, since we met.
All tenderly his messenger he chose;
Deep-hearted, pure, with scented dew still wet-
One perfect rose.
I knew the language of the floweret;
"My fragile leaves," it said, "his heart enclose."
Love long has taken for his amulet
One perfect rose.
Why is it no one ever sent me yet
One perfect limousine, do you suppose?
Ah no, it's always just my luck to get
One perfect rose.
- Dorothy Parker, 1926
~moonbeam
Sat, Oct 9, 1999 (13:36)
#91
Oh GOOD!! More Parker fans. ;) And I'm glad that made you laugh, Marcia.
I'm also fond of her one-liners -- for example, "Brevity is the soul of lingerie."
She proves that poems about loss can keep their protective edge, doesn't she?
I've been searching for one poem in particular that I can remember only snatches of -- about a relationship gone south, formerly cherished, with a line about must we pretend it never was "just because it perished?" Anybody here know that one or have it in a volume? I've searched for it online to no avail.
~MarciaH
Sat, Oct 9, 1999 (14:45)
#92
Not yet, but I am also an avid DP fan and I shall search for it, as well, both on the net and in my books here. We shall find much good stuff Parker, even if we don't succeed in finding that particular one! Ascerbic wit - my favorite kind - with just the right amount of pain to let you know she has "been there", too...*hugs* for posting Parker!
~moonbeam
Sun, Oct 10, 1999 (04:17)
#93
More of it came into my head tonight... you know how that back burner works:
"..... ..... ......
... no longer cherished,
Should we say it was not love,
Just because it perished?"
Yes, Marcia, that's why I like her too -- when her heart was broken she bled in public because she was a writer, but always with a wry, sardonic smile for her audience.
~Irishprincess
Sun, Oct 10, 1999 (12:50)
#94
I love poems of loss, and I don't know why I haven't posted on here before, but here goes:
ON THE DEATH OF HIS WIFE
by Muireadach O'Dalaigh
(early 13th century)
I parted from my wife last night,
A woman's body sunk in clay:
The tender bosom that I loved
Wrapped in a sheet they took away.
The heavy blossom that had lit
The ancient boughs is tossed and blown;
Her was the burden of delight
That long had weighed the old tree down.
And I am left alone tonight
And desolate is the world I see
For lovely was that woman's weight
That even last night had lain on me.
Weeping I took upon the place
Where she used to rest her head--
For yesterday her body's length
Reposed upon you too, my bed.
Yesterday that smiling face
Upon one side of you was laid
That could match the hazel bloom
In its dark delicate sweet shade.
Maelva of the shadowy brows
Was the mead-cask at my side;
Fairest of all flowers that grow
Was the beauty that has died.
My body's self deserts me now,
The half of me that was her own,
Since all I knew of brightness died
Half of me lingers, half is gone.
The face that was like hawthorn bloom
Was my right foot and my right side;
And my right hand and my right eye
Were no more mine than hers who died.
Poor is the share of me that's left
Since half of me died with my wife;
I shudder at the words I speak;
Dear God, that girl was half my life.
And our first look was her first love;
No man had fondled ere I came
The little breasts so small and firm
And the long body like a flame.
For twenty years we shared a home,
Our converse milder with each year;
Eleven children in its time
Did that tall stately body bear.
It was the King of hosts and roads
Who snatched her from me in her prime:
Little she wished to leave alone
The man she loved before her time.
Now King of churches and bells,
Though never raised a pledge a lie
That woman's hand--can it be true?--
No more beneath my head will lie.
~MarciaH
Sun, Oct 10, 1999 (13:06)
#95
Wow, Amy - powerful stuff. The poor man. I know that feeling of only being a half of a person while someone either encaring or unable to bring it back to where it belonged remained unattainable. It is an acute ache that never quite leaves, like a haunting... Thanks for posting that.
~Irishprincess
Sun, Oct 10, 1999 (14:56)
#96
(Marcia)I know that feeling of only being a half of a person while someone either encaring or unable to bring it back to where it belonged remained unattainable. It is an acute ache that never quite leaves, like a haunting
You are so, so right. It's twice as bad when the person isn't dead, because you're always tortured with the idea that someday you might get back together, someday you might make it work.
~Irishprincess
Sun, Oct 10, 1999 (15:09)
#97
I don't know if this classifies as a "poem of loss" per se, but I once had a very emotional experience while reading this aloud:
NOT WAVING BUT DROWNING
by Stevie Smith
Nobody heard him, the dead man,
But still he lay moaning:
I was much farther out than you thought
And not waving but drowning.
Poor chap, he always loved larking
And now he's dead
It must have been too cold for him his heart gave way,
They said.
Oh, no no no, it was too cold always
(Still the dead one lay moaning)
I was much too far out all my life
And not waving but drowning.
~Irishprincess
Sun, Oct 10, 1999 (15:21)
#98
I'm going through my anthology of English literature, and I'm just finding so many poems that I loved so dearly when I took that class!
A YEAR'S SPINNING
by Elizabeth Barrett Browning
1.
He listened at the porch that day,
To hear the wheel go on, and on;
And then it stopped, ran back away,
While through the door he brought the sun:
But now my spinning is all done.
2.
He sat beside me, with an oath
That love ne'er ended, once begun;
I smiled--believing for us both,
What was the truth for only one:
And now my spinning is all done.
3.
My mother cursed me that I heard
A young man's wooing as I spun:
Thanks, cruel mother, for that word--
For I have, since, a harder known!
And now my spinning is all done.
4.
I thought--O God!--my first born's cry
Both voices to mine ear would drown:
I listened in mine agony--
It was the silence made me groan!
And now my spinning is all done.
5.
Bury me 'twixt my mother's grave,
(Who cursed me on her death-bed lone)
And my dead baby's (God it save!)
Who, not to bless me, would not moan.
And now my spinning is all done.
6.
A stone upon my heart and head,
But no name written on the stone!
Sweet neighbours, whisper low instead,
"This sinner was a loving one--
And now her spinning is all done."
7.
And let the door ajar remain,
In case he should pass by anon;
And leave the wheel out very plain,--
That HE, when passing in the sun,
May see the spinning is all done.
~MarciaH
Sun, Oct 10, 1999 (15:24)
#99
Ah yes, hope springs eternal...for me, as well. Just the right word (or any word, for that matter) from him and the entire complexion of the world changes. Flowers bloom where there were none before; sun shines where there were gloomy clouds hovering. Everything changes! With just a little word or two from the right person... Sometimes I wonder how close to drowning I really am...
~MarciaH
Sun, Oct 10, 1999 (15:27)
#100
Sounds like EBB had a mother like mine! Fortunately, and thanks be to God, I have never experienced the ultimate horror of burying my own child.