I want to know why I can never get into the "inner" conference. "Internal Server Error" always comes up on my screen. I don't know much about computers, so what's up, Terry?

inner is a private conference run by wer. so you can only get into it if you are on the list of authorized users.

and yapp only has a couple of different error messages... that one is the most common

What wer said.

ditto

How ya doin', George?

It's time to put out that plea again. I have shelled out about $800 plus this month and I'm still lacking funds to pay for the domain name austen.com and some others, send your contributions to: The Spring Rt 2 Box 56r Cedar Creek, TX 78612 Make checks payable to The Spring. Any help you can send this way will be *very* appreciated and the first $70 received will go to rescue our austen.com domain name.

I want to talk about our failure to make the Golden Pebble awards for austin's best websites. first, here are the winners, which we were not among (hangs head in shame) http://www.Astrofish.net -- The people have spoken and made this redneck fisherman-astrological site numero uno and the winner of the "People's Choice Pebble." Of course, my psychic abilities should have been able to predict this outcome when I saw a bolded statement on the site directing Astrofish surfers to e-mail me and let me know Astrofish.com is the best. Astrofish, I look into my crystal ball and see a Golden Pebble coming your way. http://www.Internetv.com -- The "Funky Golden Pebble" goes to Rob Campanell and his new Internet production "Chemical Generation." In this "Real World"-type drama, DJ Deepfrog chronicles his quest to bring his hip-a-delic sound (Deepfrog Acid) to the world. It's waggle-your-hips funky, with a "You've Got Mail!" love twist. Here's your Pebble, DJ Deepfrog; why don't you take it for a spin? http://www.FixExpress.com and www.Sulekha.com -- The "Best Site Duet Pebble" goes to Sangeeta Kshettry and Satya Prabhakar. FixExpress.com is a yummy, one-stop info, trivia and humor site that boasts visitors from more than 100 countries. Sulekha.com is an excellent zine and literary community boasting some excellent writing by inhabitants of the Indian subcontinent. http://www.MikeJasper.com -- The "Angry Pebble" goes to Mike Jasper and his low-tech essay site. His spite, vengeance and cynicism made me laugh a lot over the past year. Besides, he's the only one who took me out for a burger after he appeared in my column. Congrats, Mike; next time, let's go to the Four Seasons. http://www.EthePeople.com -- When Austinite Alex Sheshunoff started a site at which you can contact local political officials via the Internet, it was bound to make this list. On his site, you can e-mail politicos and gripe about everything from impeachment to potholes. Alex, enjoy your "Power to the People Pebble." http://www.Unmall.com -- The "Buy This Pebble" goes to Unmall.com. It's about time someone linked Austin's great merchants and displayed them for the world to peruse and enjoy. It's one long, 24-hour-a-day, seven-day-a-week Armadillo Christmas Bazaar. Honorable mentions: http://www.Dumbest.com -- Margaret Moser and Bill Crawford have put up a site devoted to their book "Rock Stars Do the Dumbest Things." If you're too cheap to buy the book, this site will give you some good insight into rock stars and the dumb things they do. http://members.tripod.com/~poopunk/ -- An excellent e-zine by Ben Aqua. If you've forgotten what teen angst is all about, this site will remind you. http://www.chrissy.com/store.html -- Kitsch shopping to the tune of Muzak versions of "Here Comes the Sun" and "Downtown," this site boasts the best place in town for Ladyhead vases (don't worry, I didn't know what they were, either). Send questions, comments, ideas, products, graft and fan mail to Gregory Kallenberg at gkallenberg@statesman.com or write him at P.O. Box 670, Austin 78767. Look at these websites and tell me why we didn't stack up and what we need to do to make next years Golden Pebbles. We're just not insanely great enough yet. And if you feel we were left off and should have made the list, email Gregory Kallenberg and tell him he screwed up, big time, by not listing the Spring. Just in case you missed his email address: gkallenberg@statesman.com

its good to have these very specific goals for the Spring in mind. i am still mentioning the spring to anyone who will listen!

What do we need to do?

If'n I knew, I'd be doing it...

Have you looked at the golden pebble sites? What are we doing that we're not doing? How can we get more folks here? How can we improve our site? Better navigation? More features? Is the webcam a total bust? Does anyone watch it? We stopped playing videotapes all the time and we're half live and half taped now. And we have live feeds coming from both houses. What's it going to take?

What Gregory needs is an impassioned rebuke in his email box from ratthing. That would carry some weight!

me? ok, i will!

I just invited him to be a regulart participant here, as well...

oooh a regulart!!!

think I spelled it correctly in the e-mail, though... (how many points do I lose for spelling, teach?)

twas only a pre-test...

regulart. None. Because it's a cool mispelling.

Whup up on him a little, Stace.

love your philosophy on that one Paul!

especially if it describes a participant of Ree's conference...

huh?

regulart=chronic participant of the art conference...

From Gregory Kallenberg: "I thought soemone had bought the name. I'm glad you guys are still around. Look for a mention in next week's column. Gregory"

ahhh... was he confused by the .net as we all temporarily were?

seems so... I e-mailed Mike Jasper and Ben Aqua and invited them to join, as well...

Maybe they'll become regularts as well!

ah ha! the old com to net trick again!

Hey! I feel all warm and fuzzy!

Gregory Kallenberg's bit on the Spring in this week's XL ent, as promised... "www.Spring.net -- It seems a lot of fans of this tres cool Austin site missed my call for the 2nd annual Golden Pebbles Awards (best local sites). They are up in arms they weren't included. Well, guys, here's Spring.net for all to click upon and bookmark. I hope you're happy." all those who e-mailed him about not being included, please e-mail him again and tell him thanks!

Email thanks to mailto://gkallenberg@statesman.com

wait a sec, they give out awards for these places? HELLO!! what can i do?

recommend this place to anywhere you find that gives web awards...what kind of specifics are you looking for, Wolf?

*lol* is that the only way to get the word out? i'll go and submit this place to whomever...any specific type of awards we're limited to? or would anything do? and then we can have a trophy case somewhere!!

go, Wolf, go! submit, Wolf, submit! win, Wolf, win!

Alright, it could be at http://www.spring.net/awards cool!

I want to talk about nothing in particular...

and it seems that everyone else felt the same way...

I'd like to talk to Roan today in the farm conference about his incredible conspiracy theory regarding the Farm. I usually find it hard to believe paranoid conspiracy theories, but Roan provides some pretty convincing statements about some actual experiences he had. I'd be interested in what other folks think of his very "out there" thesis on how the Farm was underminded by "black ops".

Hey Any good raves going on in Austin as of late? Mike aka _cosmo_

Haven't heard of any, but I'll check on it.

unfortunately(?), cosmo, I don't hang around that crowd anymore...

I'm getting old...*sniff*

what do ya'll think about the Thought of the day thingy I got up in here? the guy who does those lives in Austin...

What is the thingy in question? I see no thingy.

the thingy over in the right hand corner that looks like a box with "Thought for the day" in it?!?!?

or, any other thingy you see and want to comment on, Autumn...

hey... just out of curiosity...what is the reason for the intermittent feb7,2036 date thing? (it is definitely marked in my calendar)... (and i hadn't noticed the thought of the day thingy, but am determined to search it out presently)

have done so and... and... they are even better than fortune cookies (which are usually the sources of my thoughts of the day) (such as they are) i like em

Where is this f*(#@^! thingy????

on http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/browse/porch/all/new right beside the description of the conference...

Aha! It is on the porch main page! I thought it was supposed to be in the upper right hand corner of this topic. Today's reminds me of those motivational posters in my husband's office.

sorry we confused you...

"We should abolish January and February. If we then divided the 59 extra days between July and August, we will cut out energy needs by about one- third through eliminating the coldest days of the year. Cold is largely a psychological matter. If people look at the calendar and see that it is July, they will be quite happy to turn the heat down." --John Galbraith, Ohio state representative

*grin*

Isn't he a famous economist?

I wanna know what's up with the new quarters!!!

Don't you like the Delaware ones? The tooth fairy thinks they're great! She can't wait for the other 49 to be issued.

No, I was serious...hadn't heard anything about them until I found one in my pocket...still don't know what's going on...

They're reminting the quarter in all 50 states (in order of when they joined the union).

thanks!!!!!!!

why, I want to talk about the today conference, of course! http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/today/all

yippee...been talking to everyone on here the last couple of days, although the boss has been somewhat absent...

you chatterbox, you!

*sticking out tongue at you*

I want to talk about what a dweeb I am.. cuz I was having problems with my browser mail, so I changed the mail server to www.spring.net so I could send out some mail from there And how all my www.spring.net mail (that I usually access through Telnet (pine) jumped over onto my browser mail. And how I deleted it all because I didn't want it in both places and then how when I logged in and went to pin I had NO MAIL in my account (cuz it all was in my browser mail (that I deleted))... Then I want to hang my head in shame and ask "how in the hell do I put it all back???" (It's still in my browsers trash folder...)

does that folder work like the recycle bin and let you re-install instead of finishing deleting?

if not, you ought to be able to put it back through explorer...

what happened, stacey, is that when your browser email client went to talk to www.spring.net, it talked with both the POP server and SMTP server. it was the POP server who grabbed your mail off the server and fed it to your browser, then deleted it off the server. the only way to get it back to the www.spring.net server is to email it back  to www.spring.net. you should be able to do that from the deleted items folder. in your browser email package, there should be an option somewhere called "leave mail on server" or something like that. if you check this option, then the email your browser reads off the server will not be deleted, and will be there for you if you ever telnet in and use pine. also, unless you are connected directly to the Spring, you cannot use your browser's email client to send email. the SMTP server on www.spring.net does not accept mail from domains other than spring.net.

Thanks!

your post explains problems I've been having as well, Ray...

But none of mine. Ray, what's my problem, anyway?

hmmm. let's see. appears to have something to do with monkeys and large breasts, but i'm not certain.... let me check the log files, alexander, and get back to you... ;)

this post of yours, Ray, also explains problems I've been having...

this post of yours, Ray, also explains problems I've been having i can now meet people i have no anxiety about it --- it happens with irresistible mystery and charm rheumatoid arthritis left my body i'm 28 again, feel fit as a fiddle, feel oompah and voila and viola as a violin when i fart, the blap is music to everyone's ears (as well as being a tremendous relief for me) my entire mind is at perfect ease and likes to fiddle faddle with my heart and make it crack up and be in stitches until it howls and spins on its butt i'll walk around the yard and even the people of Scotland can feel my footsteps with uncanny sensitivity and bursting love children's voices light my way in the dark and i can run my fingers over where those concealed corners are in the entrance hall of her emotions (i'm talkin' of this new friend who lives so much human content, the trace of a desire is right now licking the outside of that blue cadillac she likes to drive off the 12th floor of Hotel Vertigo and land sweet and soft with exuberant acceleration in the driveway of wide-open romance) i have so much clarity now, i can link instincts with the center of the collective unconscious and purr deeply original forces that bunch up in simple pure soul release my ego has hung it up, exited, it's gone --- it made a filthy corpse, the soil is littered with its severed flesh, its sexual insecurities, its sweaty bank statements

jim, you da man. i hope you are feeling as great as you write.

he actually feels better if you touch him in the correct sub-continents during the supraproday sale phase of the moon in tempo with his tertiary time and phone line...

uh oh... Jim, are those wildflowers blooming in your living room or what?!?! Glad you're feeling so groovy. What did it? Coffee, sex, Jah's given up the pea gravel? Or did the residents of 37th street turn on those lights a little earlier than expected? That'd get me going too! Trying skating down the street next time you go... it's okay. The cras can't travel quickly so there's very little danger of being hit (oops, that was "cars" not cras) Anyway... back to the original point. Glad yer feeling so good... could you share some with WER next time you've reached a surplus?

it only feels good in being a writing (it was just fun to write, to do that) it's so obviously surreal i can feel totally depressed otherwise while writing something like that depressed isn't the write word, but the word would be something kinda negative but that particular time i actually was otherwise happening to be feeling basically ok but it didn't have anything to do with *what* i was writing that's just something about me and it's probably what any of you might've been figuring was the case with me? that what's said in the writing and what I'm actually feeling otherwise in my life are 2 different things, or can be? explanations do help sometimes.....was this not helpful, though? am i sounding like i'm misinterpreting or taking things too seriously or being dense or do i seem, say, uh, pretty distrustful as far as being sincere or having much interpersonal integrity, stuff like that? i wonder about myself....i worry about myself a mess.....ok ok

sometimes I wonder Jim. Not in a bad way...please don't misinterpret that! But sometimes the things you write just make me think..."Um...did I miss something?". But again, don't think that in a bad way - a failure on my part not yours!

I had so much to say... that it only came out as a smile.

with me and writing, i go for the impulse the impulse could be meaning to do anything with me it usually heads for humor and free associating and certain strong real touches of human truth mixed into that i don't know what it's about except right as it's coming out of me it's not very directed there's a different kind of control going on not so much conscious, but some.....there's some conscious direction but it's a real blend of conscious and submodalities of consciousness i do notice there is some belittling going on in my writing not in Response 76 (this topic), though i can see that my humor can miscommunicate it's working with stranger than usual variables (image-wise) --- that's a handful but there is a certain amount of lack of integrity going on at odd moments i'm putting some energy into growing, growth, development, as a person, i guess by taking a closer look at how that insincerity aspect actually feels to me as i look it over and look it over and look it over and see it and see it i experiment with words, it's highly experimental it's very weird being in the center of it sorta has a mind of its own but i can listen in better, by touching closer in on the spirit of it the orientation it seems to be coming from it's actually possible to hear clearly and it's possible to just not to hear i'm seeing if i can hear better it's real work i sometimes worry about losing the impulse when i listen in to the sincerity of it, but i'm wondering that it may be not such a worry, that the impulse doesn't necessarily fall down from being listened in to its sincerity, its voice, its orientation, spirit, etc. it's funny (or absurd?) to consider that there can be an amazing amount of mischievousness going on at the heart of sincerity, integrity it has to do with the pulse of change which is giving life its life, or living the life in life. anyone know? this make a little sense?

submodalities is a *great* word, stacey! :) i like your idea that impulse doesn't necessarily fall down from being subjected to some kind of critique - of being "listened to" as you put it. i'm not sure if i completely agree with the idea, at least on a personal level (for me, that is), but it's an teresting idea. i have always found that the best impulse is, to use the Spring analogy, just typed out and then sent, with no re-reading. however, as we haev all seen, too much impulse can be a negative thing as well as positive.

and I was bitten by the bug... at first my response was different... much different I did not submit it but did send it on

hmm?? non comprende :)

I was answering your non-question regarding impulsive posting, Mike.

Hmh, I like looking at Jim's postings. They look so dynamic.

Yeah, he's amazing.

my WORD, Jeeves...astounding! ;)

Does this mean your computer lives again, Annette?

(what, no insomniacs up tonight?!?!)

(me, but it's already 9:49 am over here. Good morning, Wer, how are you today?)

awake again, how are you?

Busy. Hacking all these cd titles in a spread sheet, 'coz we hand the lot over to our authors today (and it's mighty useful to know who got what from which label...). Already behind on schedule, it's 14:45 and we meet at 17:00 in FFM. See ya!

And has that been a good meeting! Great cappucino, too! There were us three publishers (two double as editors, one as direct distribution/subscription branch), the ad sales branch, four authors (a new one, too - looking forward to see how that works out, but he has some great ideas and interesting connections; hope his writing is up to it, too...) and a layouter/writer. Lots of feedback on #12, I gave an overview on planned stuff for #13, fixed dates, extended personal deadlines (for contributions, not contributors, mind you) and deal out serious CDs! Guess more'n 50 out for reviews... Some great stuff, too, Also some lame... As usual. I felt really great when I got back. They care! They contribute! We're all happy bunnies! Now I just got to find a legal way to get hold of some more carrots...

Wow, all that over a cappucino?

Had a glass of water, too, to be honest.

How's this for karma; a month or so ago, robbers broke into my house and stole my bass guitar, stereo, 2 VCRs, a flute, and most of my CDs and other assorted personals, including my address book and "scratchbook" for all of my internet goings-ons. That brought me down to my computer and tv for entertainment, ok? Last night, lightning finished off the tv and satellite reciever...now; I am down to my computer for entertainment, which I managed to have unplugged before the storm. Does anyone think I might sh uld be recieving some kind of...er...message from all of this? (ROTF!) -Humored but holding my breath...:)

Stop dancing with cross-dressing Texans?