~terry
Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (02:49)
seed
Have you noticed there are fewer young folks coming into ham radio.
Is it because the Internet is filling in the fole that HF used to for
long distance communications?
~dgbaldwin
Thu, Dec 26, 1996 (11:52)
#2
I think that the new generation of young people are anti-science. They have been taught through TV and Movies that someone who understands science or math is a geek. To get a ham license for HF voice requires learning allot of engineering for many of these young people. Also learning code puts one in the geek domain for sure. Finally, the kinds of conversations young people of today carry on is not allowed on the ham bands.
~terry
Thu, Dec 26, 1996 (21:46)
#3
Good points. Perhaps ham radio needs to integrate more Internet related
technology to attract young folks. I wonder what the actual stats are like?
~McBruce
Wed, Jan 1, 1997 (02:47)
#4
As someone who grew up around hams (but never got his ticket) I think it has
much more to do with the general shrinking of the world and the lack of "flash"
and immediacy. As a kid I remember listening in to conversations with Antarctica
and phone patches during the Vietnam war. At that time (late 60's/early 70's)
it was a thrill to hear those far away voices. Those voices don't seem so far
away in today's world. Having a mobile setup was really something. Today you
have cell phones. I think it's a loss of the sense of awe. Even back then I
was considered a geek for studying code. In an active club my dad belonged to
I was the only kid who ever attended the field days. What's probably happened
is the kids who would be coming up in the ranks today are now hacking away at
a keyboard instead, exploring and getting that same sense of pushing the technology envelope from their computer. Of course, the dawning of MTV didn't
help either!
~sprin5
Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (07:49)
#5
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/library/hot_releases/October_13_2000_4.html
THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary
October 13, 2000
MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES
SUBJECT: Advanced Mobile Communications/Third Generation Wireless
Systems
The United States and the rest of the world are on the verge of a new
generation of personal mobile communications, as wireless phones become
portable high-speed Internet connections. The United States
Government must move quickly and purposefully so that consumers,
industry, and Government agencies all reap the benefits of this third
generation of wireless products and services.
In less than 20 years, the U.S. wireless industry has blossomed from
virtually nothing to one with 100 million subscribers, and it continues
to grow at a rate of 25 to 30 percent annually. Globally, there are
over 470 million wireless subscribers, a number expected to grow to
approximately 1.3 billion within the next 5 years. It is an industry
in which U.S. companies have developed the leading technologies for
current and future systems. It is an industry whose products help
people throughout the world communicate better and in more places,
saving time, money, and lives.
Many saw the first generation of wireless -- cell phones -- as an
extravagant way to make telephone calls. Yet as with all
communications systems, the value of wireless communications increased
as the number of users and types of use increased. Today's second
generation wireless technology increased services and information
offered to users and increased competition among providers. Digital
"personal communications services" provide added messaging and data
features, including such services as voice mail, call waiting, text
messaging, and, increasingly, access to the World Wide Web. These
first and second generation services increased productivity and reduced
costs for thousands of businesses as well as Government agencies.
The next generation of wireless technology holds even greater promise.
Neither the first nor the second generation of wireless technologies
were designed for multi-media services, such as the Internet. Third
generation wireless technologies will bring broadband to hand-held
devices. Higher speeds and increased capability will lead to new
audio, video, and other applications, which may create what many are
calling "mobile-commerce" (m-commerce) that people will use in ways
that are unimaginable today. Moreover, an international effort is
underway to make it possible for the next generation of wireless phones
to work anywhere in the world.
The Federal Government has always played a crucial role in the
development of wireless services. To foster the development of
cellular telephone service, the Federal Government made available radio
frequency spectrum that had previously been used by other commercial
and Government services. For the second generation -- digital PCS --
the Federal Government allocated spectrum in bands occupied by private
sector users, and ensured competition by awarding numerous licenses,
while maintaining technology neutrality.
The United States has also placed a high value on promoting Internet
access. Government support for the development of third generation
wireless systems will help combine the wireless revolution with the
Internet revolution. As part of these efforts, radio spectrum must be
made available for this new use. The United States has already been
active by, among other things, participating at the World
Radiocommunication Conference 2000 (WRC-2000) earlier this year.
WRC-2000 adopted the basic principles of the U.S. position, which was
negotiated by Govern-ment and industry stakeholders: (1) governments
may choose spectrum from any one or all of the bands identified for
third generation mobile wireless; (2) governments have the flexibility
to identify spectrum if and when they choose; and (3) no specific
technology will be identified for third generation services. This
result will allow deployment of the best technologies and permit the
United States to move forward with rapid deployment of third generation
services in a way that advances all U.S. interests.
The spectrum identified by international agreement at WRC-2000,
however, is already being used in the United States by commercial
tele-communications, television, national defense, law enforcement, air
traffic control, and other services. Similar difficulties in making
spectrum available for third generation mobile wireless systems are
evident in other parts of the world. Because different regions have
already selected different bands, there almost certainly will be a few
preferred bands rather than a single band for third generation
services.
In the United States, Federal Government agencies and the private
sector must work together to determine what spectrum could be made
available for third generation wireless systems.
Accordingly, I am hereby directing you, and strongly encouraging
independent agencies, to be guided by the following principles in any
future actions they take related to development of third generation
wireless systems:
-- Third generation wireless systems need radio frequency spectrum on
which to operate. Executive departments and agencies and the Federal
Communications Commission (FCC) must cooperate with industry to
identify spectrum that can be used by third generation wireless
systems, whether by reallocation, sharing, or evolution of existing
systems, by July 2001;
-- Incumbent users of spectrum identified for reallocation or sharing
must be treated equitably, taking national security and public safety
into account;
-- The Federal Government must remain technology-neutral, not
favoring one technology or system over another, in its spectrum
allocation and licensing decisions;
-- The Federal Government must support policies that encourage
competition in services and that provide flexibility in spectrum
allocations to encourage competition; and
-- The Federal Government must support industry efforts as far as
practicable and based on market demand and national considera-tions,
including national security and international treaty obligations, to
harmonize spectrum allocations regionally and internationally.
I also direct the relevant agencies as follows:
1. I direct the Secretary of Commerce to work cooperatively with the
FCC, as the agencies within the Federal Government with shared
responsibility and jurisdiction for management of the radio frequency
spectrum, to develop, by October 20, 2000, a plan to select spectrum
for third generation wireless systems, and to issue, by November 15,
2000, an interim report on the current spectrum uses and potential for
reallocation or sharing of the bands identified at WRC-2000 that could
be used for third generation wireless systems, in order that the FCC
can identify, in coordination with the National Telecommunications and
Information Administration, spectrum by July 2001, and auction licenses
to competing applicants by September 30, 2002.
2. I also direct the Secretary of Commerce to work cooperatively with
the FCC to lead a government-industry effort, through a series of
regular public meetings or workshops, to work cooperatively with
government and industry representatives, and others in the private
sector, to develop recommendations and plans for identifying spectrum
for third generation wireless systems consistent with the WRC-2000
agreements, which may be implemented by the Federal Government.
3. I direct the Secretaries of Defense, the Treasury, Transportation,
and the heads of any other executive department or agency that is
currently authorized to use spectrum identified at WRC-2000 for third
generation wireless services, to participate and cooperate in the
activities of the government-industry group.
4. I direct the Secretary of State to participate and cooperate in
the activities of the government-industry group, and to coordinate and
present the evolving views of the United States Government to foreign
governments and international bodies.
Furthermore, I strongly encourage the FCC to participate in the
government-industry outreach efforts and to initiate a rule-making
proceeding to identify spectrum for third generation wireless services
that will be coordinated with the Assistant Secretary of Commerce for
Communications and Information during the formulation and
decisionmaking process with the goal of completing that process by July
2001, so that such spectrum can be auctioned to competing applicants
for licenses by September 30, 2002.
WILLIAM J. CLINTON
"
Get ready for another big spectrum land rush like the one in '96.
~MarciaH
Wed, Nov 1, 2000 (19:43)
#6
My biased opinion is that Ham Radio will always be necessary because of the fact that it is wireless and mobile. So far the internet is only limited in that capacity. Disaster relief work has shown me all too vividly what importance Ham radio has at times like those. Health and welfare is just one function.
~sprin5
Thu, Nov 2, 2000 (07:47)
#7
I agree, the tough part will be holding on to our precious and expensive frequencies against the onslaught of wireless devices like cell phones and mobile pdas.