You don't make enough money, you always leave the top off the toothpaste, and you never consider my feelings!! If you weren't so damned good-lookin', I'd leave you this very second! :-)

but you already did...

How do you web types like the new look in this here conference? Shall we keep it, go back to the way we were, or should I keep looking?

No, no, keep it! This is my favourite so far. Great work, Wer!

*beams*

Wow! How flattering!

had to go and ruin it, didn't you? *wink*

Huh? RUIN IT?? In what way? What did I say?!?! I should have said nothing? Should have asked for permission before speaking? Lord, I should start using body language - it's GOT to be more successful than spoken conversation. So, scrap, 'Wow! How flattering!', this is how it should have read: �Lifting Right Eyebrow� Is that better?

Oh, damn, and I forgot: ����mile� That automatically means that no-one will take offence, right? Just give me time - I'll get the hang of on-line politeness at SOME point! And ����mile� �Wink� as well as �giggle�. There, I'm safe!

*laugh* (my favorite one is still $hit!)

geez, Riette, you're the one that said flattery was bad... I was just unsuccesfully pointing out that you were flattering me, and thus ruining your compliment... *sigh*

And your spatula is quite long, yet a little flexible and easy to get hold of - and, boy, can it whip one's cream or what?! Would you call that a compliment or flattery? (No, I know, muffin, I was just being wicked!) �if I could wink i would�

depends on if you meant it or were trying to get something... (although, I guess, those aren't always mutually exclusive, huh, hon?)

No. I mean, while I would not mind trying out your spatula, it sure won't change my opinion not to. It's that action of yours I admire.

*blush* just remember: it's all in the wrist...

But you'd better find an alternative thing to fall back on as well, because the wrists, so I hear, get inflamed and full of arthritis when a guy hits forty . . . ooh, you mean MY wrist? Now I'm blushing!

nice to see a different backdrop. i'm not too sure about the clickthru ad banner, tho.

yeah, me either...just haven't dumped it yet...

cool :-)

thanky, sir!

not sure about this bg any more. i think i prefer the WELL/Engaged style of just having plain white backgrounds. makes things that much easier to read.

that's why I been taking comments...besides it's hard to match colors so the text and links are even semi-readable...

yeah. i'm becoming a big fan of the plain white bg. do cool titles, navbars, left-borders etc., but leave the main space white. that's my motto from now on. of course, my homepage is black...

solid colors are quite effective (if'n you want to do it on here, in your rc file for your conf, type in define wallpaper 'nada.gif' and set the colors you want to use in define xxlinkcol like you would in a body tag

aha nice one is that documented anywhere?

it is now...albeit in a weird place...

some more stuff for the host-helper pack!

i haven't managed to get the background thing to work. better give me the whole syntax e.g. for making the bg white

define xxlinkcol 'bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"' define wallpaper 'nada.gif'

aha cheers

gotta run and go celebrate not being part of the British empire... :-)

aha cheers

You techies are over the top! Great graphics, wer!

I mean, just listen to how they're talking! I really wish computers were a bit more straight forward. I also want to make cool background designs for Art, but, $hit, how is one supposed to know how to do that?!

practice?

Wow, looking great, and making me more jealous by the minute, muffin! �eyebrow� How is one suppose to practice something one has no idea how to do in the first place?!?!?!?!

not sure...just telling you how I do it...I get real nosy, then go, hey I wonder what happens if I do this? If it works, great, if not, put it back the way it was and try something else... and keep practicing till you start getting it right more often than not...

I'll try. I really, really like your backgrounds, Wer. This particular one is brilliant, because it's still very easy to read the responses.

I like this background, wer...friendly and playful and doesn't interfere with the text. How do you feel about new buttons?

been contemplating it for genx...all around, I like the buttons because with the other stuff I do, it provides a sense of continuity with the rest o' the Spring... just my personal tastes, of course...

it provides a sense of continuity with the rest o' the Spring... just my personal tastes, of course... I know what you mean. I've been thinking about the same thing. While I like the new buttons at Drool (I'll like them even more when I get a chance to make their backgrounds transparent) I feel like there is something alien about them. I like the idea of each Conference having it's own character, one that is reflective of the topics discussed and/or the personalities of the participants. The choice of water at Drool was a very conscious one--all wet things being a running joke over there. I notice that most of the main Conference pages don't mention something like "You're at Spring" (including Drool). I think a logo would be a great solution. If everyone could agree on the design and each Conference had it at the top right of the page (or some other convenient place), then it would both keep consistency throughout Spring while allowing each Conference to have its own personality. Sorry, I probably should have posted this at Porch, but the opportunity presented itself ;-) I'm going over to check out the logos topic...

Sounds like a good idea to me, Nan. I'd vote for it. Isn't Mike designing a spring logo at the moment? We can use that, right?

so have I, there's also the one in news that's also on the front page, Terry just hasn't made a final decision as far as anyone can tell... have you looked at all the responses in the logo topic in porch?

Why not put them all on a webpage, eg. http://www.spring.net/logos ?

sure, go ahead...dat way we can all see them at once and together like...

I was really tempted to tell you what you wanted (needed?) to hear here, but you already know...huh?! The background is splendid, as others have noted. The host is kind to all ladies and gentlemen who stumble into his path, and he deserves some Order of Merit for the work he has done. I hope the new host is equal to the task - pretty difficult (word changed on purpose) act to follow.