Lesson 1: www.scoopy.net (as you know)

three that I like: http://www.netlabs.net/hp/jimr/art/flash.html http://www.erotic-writing.co.uk/ http://pfmly.com/pfmly/screech/

two more: http://www.yoni.com/ http://www.sensualsource.com/

the first thing that makes a good adult web site is protecting it from naughty under-age eyes. drop in to www.adultcheck.com

Most likely more than two guys talking to eachother. You start with a black background...http://www.lingam.com/

go on...

I did not think anyone would come her to see what I had written. I shall have to give it some thought - much as you are doing in the corner unobtrusively in 72. I shall think about this, do a little educational research and get back to you.

okay!

William, we have not heard from you in 72 and we are posting pictures like mad. Go wash your hands and tell the ladies whether you want hot links, thumbs or the full picture (low KB, I know!). I see you have been in the garden a lot. Are you growing crudite's for Gi's shower?

I've seen...I can set up a page to put everything on, but I don't want to step on anyone's toes, either...which other conferences do you wander around in?

Let me go and suggest that - or we can move to the Heide aborted-first-try Drool 111 on which there are 3 postings, the lengthiest of which was the cut'n'paste version of a chat which was requested that I put there. You are surely welcome to delete the three postings and rename it. However, we are on 72 which is Odds and Ends...and that is just about what it covers! I have but recently gone away from Drool in Spring to see what else was happening. A plethora of thoughts on just about anything are out there. Of course, I tried sex first (don't we all?!) and was amazed at the clever teasing of riette. Having read all of them - they mysteriously stop about the end of 1998. Do not know why. Almost in mid-thought. Then, upon seeing a mention that riette had gone to arts, so did I. Too intense for me now. I am far too involved in Drool at the moment. I shall read hem all in arts later. I only know of your gardening by who has posted recently, and Wolf is seriously into things that are "out there", is he not! I need to read the history and psrticipate - and philosophy...but...time. You do not have a life elsewhere either, do you;) I am getting neglectedly grouchy comments from my SO, thus my hesitancy to take on another board. I am the kind who cannot just lurk. If I am to be there I must participate. To do otherwise I think is dishonest - at least, for me. More later. Lunch and gentleman call!

enjoy...and Wolf is a she, btw...see ya later!

BTW, your comment on not wanting to step on any toes was a well-considered. Even some of the most seasoned ladies in Drool are able to throw a fit of high dudgeon on occasion. Springfolks is my least favorite thing to do, however. Gi and I were left to "manage" the site while Renate is on Holiday. Lovely, except we have been downgraded to "moderator" and stripped of just about any meaningful utility. The mysterious Sergio must be contacted for anything to get done. We can accept or reject a posting hey do not recognize, and subscribe new people, but so can everyone. I do not quite understand how they are running it, but according to Nan, the price was right. Free, I believe. It was to make us free from lurkers for broadcast postings, but there are more malicious lurkers in there than in Drool. But, that is another story and not for these pages.

sure it is...just change the names to protect the "innocent"...

You are amazingly clever. Let's see, we could, for example, mention how nosy a certain Hawaiian resident is - one sees her postings everywhere! Who does she think she is?! Of course, no one would know of whom we were speaking...=)

exactly what I was talking about! and, so that we remain topical, check out: http://www.gwnn.org/

Re your URL: Beautiful opening page which makes you wait until it is fully loaded before you know just where you go next. Sorry, but the second page is miserable (humble opinion, of course). I did not go farther...my least favorite thing is to be humilated and hurt. I got enough of that as a little kid with two older sisters and a strict father. However, still on topic...my favorite sites would include a variety of enticing activities - all lavishly and tastefully presented in glowing and non-fuzzy graphics No music please. Pop-ups are bad enough. No, they are the worst. Some spawn windows faster than you can hit the little X in the upper corner to cancel them. Hate that.

the url was mostly for the opening page...wasn't really judgin' the context...and I agree completely with the pop-ups (well, those on the monitor, at least...)

Indeed! Banners with animated gifs are killers, too. It takes forever before you see anything useful - meanwhile the gifs are too small, so you have to put on 2 pair of glasses to watch them...! (Not that I know anything about these things...)

of course not, you're just saying

http://www.carolcox.com/pictures/female.html http://www.cateyes.com/

Pepto-Dismal pink is not my favorite color, and those augmented ladies do notdo much for me....however, in the interest of diversity and fairness, I offer you http://perso.club-internet.fr/tlefebur/sexymen.htm There is not much out there for straight women. Most is for old men with pedophile or gay proclivities. Bummer...!

the background was nice, I liked that rainbow thing it had going on... way too many things on one page for any kind of load speed, though

I enjoyed the rainbow thing, too, though I still think graphics are set-off best on a dark background. It didn't have too many things on one page...they were not ads, they did not dance around or try to take your money. I though they looked very nice - especially after those pneumatically endowed "ladies' on the ones you recommended.

there was, however, a pop-up...and where in nature are there that many body-hairless, perfectly defined gentlemen without a little help from this or that to enhance their allure?

what's the 'this or that' you'd be referring to WER?

body-building, shaving, waxing, cosmetic dentistry, etcetera...

I'll give you all those EXCEPT body building... anything you work that hard for is yours!

and anything you work hard enough for the money for isn't?

not in my opinion actually...

okay, so there are only two classes of body modifications then, right? 1. artificial/surgical 2. physical manipulation (ie. exercise, binding, stretching, etcetera)

does piercing fit into category 1?

initially, yes, however enlarging the "hole" purposefully would fall into the second (kinda of a touchy categorization, this one)

Please somebody check Drool 72 and delete the obscenity

Oh, and BTW, you can have those effete mirror-posers. I like the natural man with curly stuff all over him and the way God made him. Yup! But, that was the only straight all-guys page I could find in an hour's search with all of the "right" engines. Someone needs to get creative for the other half of the happy couple.

I've got it, Marcia. I've deleted the posts but I don't know how much good that'll do. I'll find Terry and Wer...

Thanks dear!!!

Question! I do not know where else to enquire. Why are postings on the internal boards inaccessable by the general populace of Spring published where all can see them? It is as though there are mean-spirited people ^up^ there bragging about having access to everything and we can just watch as chosen individuals are allowed entre. Surely this is not the intention, but you are beginning to look like an elitist organization when you do that. Surely there is another way to let those who post in the inner anctum that a new message is there. And, what really makes me wonder, why is "Life with Riette" not available for the members? Is she living some sort of sordid life behind the guise of Spring with you guys? Surely not, but that is how you are coming across!

may I contemplate some before answering thee? (I hope so, 'cause I'm going to anyway...)

Question! I do not know where else to enquire. Why are postings on the internal boards inaccessable by the general populace of Spring published where all can see them? It is as though there are mean-spirited people ^up^ there bragging about having access to everything and we can just watch as chosen individuals are allowed entre. Surely this is not the intention, but you are beginning to look like an elitist organization when you do that. Surely there is another way to let those who post in the inner anctum that a new message is there. And, what really makes me wonder, why is "Life with Riette" not available for the members? Is she living some sort of sordid life behind the guise of Spring with you guys? Surely not, but that is how you are coming across!

Of course, William, contemplate away. I was baiting you in a way. I think I know the answer, but there must be some out there who wonder what is going on and why they cannot participate. I also do not know how I got a duplicate post with your comment between them...but there are some things I would just rather not know. Thank you for your time and cpmtemplation!

Is this background bothering anyone else's eyes?

It sort of reminds me of little kid's pajamas. Without the writing on it.

I've been wondering how long it would take for people to get tired of this background... wonder what I can find this time...

Something more uniform...not too dark unless you change the type color - then some people have problems reading it. A muted ivory with texture or embossing of the same color...blue, gray, anything like that. How about a stony texture? Sandstone is good. Nice honey-colored sandstone.

I went into the music conference for the first time and found this wallpaper there. I was afraid I had inadvertantly brought it with me. You must have gotten a real bargain with it if you did more than one confrence in it!

now I'm confused...music has a different wallpaper...which one do you see in here? This one should be the same as the one on main...

The one I see here, and it is here today again, is white background with purple notes and eyes all over it. The yellow one with the sort-of-lemons on it was fine. This is too much.

Make that yellow with ghostly leaves on it on the Main Page. On the Sex Topic All page I find this eyes and notes wallpaper, also. Don't get me wrong. This would make great pajamas. Wallpaper? No! (MHO)

when did the eyes and notes wallpaper start showing up for you in here? or, has it always been in here for you?

It showed up on Tuesday. I think that is the day I went into the music conference to see what was happening. You do not see it? On Drool I see Nan's blue moire silk. Is this wallpaper contageous?

nope...in here I get the default leaves...

Oh dear...that is very odd, indeed. I still see the wallpaper looking back at me. Now what do I do to see it through your eyes? I wonder if *anyone* else sees eyes and notes?! Anyhoooo, it does not make good wallpaper for an adult site.

this is true...try clearing your cache, that might fix it... (although it is going to make the loading slow on your other stuff for awhile...)

Oh, William, it is hopeless. My disk cache and memory cache are emptied each time I close out. If I am busy on the net, I dump it as I go. The eyes are still here. Now I am feeling paranoid about them staring at me like I am some sort of cyber-oddity beyond all hope of redemption. Like one of those surrealistic movies from between-wars Germany which were all allegory and nightmares. Aaaaaaah!

Somebody called me?

*laugh* and you haven't even seen the eyeball in screwed have you, Marcia?

Novice that I am in anything but Drool, I do not even know where to look for said eyeball. Is it something I should avoid? Lest it follow me everywhere like those icons which come with guilty-conscience-causing stares?

I get pansies on the garden pages, silk moire on the Drool pages, default leaves on the main pages, but eyeballs on the music and here pages! (I wonder if I mess with it if I can put CF all over it instead???)Not to worry...I would not!

what do you get in art, food, and restaurants? (the background in screwed is clouds in a beautiful blue sky... the said eyeball is at the bottom of the page!)

Screwed, I get the beautiful blue sky w/clouds and the eyeball at the bottom of the page (*that* is where all of those topics went!!!) In Art, I do not have such colorful nightmares, but if I did they would resemble the checkboard art in the upper right with green&red and black&white squares and a guy and his dog (head only for both). Background is vivid colors striped as orange and teal and fuchsic and yellow and green. Restaurants has a mauve background with slightly darker mauve outline drawings of food on plates or whatever they are! Food has wood planking (looks like limed oak). But this place still has eyes and notes! I noted that you and Terry live a very busy cyber-life May I thank you for that!

You're welcome...hmmm, don't know what else to tell you for now... I'll try and find a suitable background for in here and we'll see what happens then!

It has been a very long time since we talked in here. Things have changed (have they ever!)and I now get the planking from food in here because I deleted music from my hot list which got rid of the eyes and notes. Now, I think of eating something when I look in here. Perhaps I should stay on topic and get some nice adult sites for your inventory. Nothing else much going on today...!

and once again, the connection between food and sex is made...

I wondered if you would notice that...may I peel you a grape?

as long as grape isn't a colorful euphemism, in which case, no thanks, they don't need to be peeled...

No euphemism...was just going to serve them to you in a most interesting way.

as to your comment....OUCH! Sorry you declined...it would have been interesting at the very least...*smile*

....Oooh! But, you did not decline...declotege stuffed with grapes for your delectation...*smile*

Would anyone like to take up the conversation again about what constitutes a great adult site? I am ready to have a conversation with anyone willing to talk.

Sure, no problemo.

Help us fix adultstory.com.

what does it need?

(I know - go and see what it Does need! Sorry...)

Ok, I went there and was very interested in the message boards, so I began to read. I get all ready to take notes for future use and suddenly the following links do not work. I cannot summon up the instructional video which might be helpful if I ever need to know what they show. Now I shall never know. That's for beginners...

I went the long way around and found the video in question. Are these boards (and we called them 'boards' with threads to distingush them from postings like on The Spring) currently active? I have some really good information to add, but it is not for here...

Anyone out there lurking who might like to join me in this little discussion. I think adultstory.com is doing just fine without me. I would much rather discuss those things one-on-one with my lover rather than the population of a discussion board and whomever happens by. Any other suggestions? And you may talk to me now!

...it is lonely in here...and I need a hug...and no one here to do it...*sniff*

I'll go take a bath and get all clean and soapy and soft. By the time I get back I hope someone else has added a comment...else, I will take my toys and go home...*smile*

G'night, Sweetie. *Hugs*

It sure needs work, but what?

I guess I am not sure what you intend to have in adultstory.com. I thought it would be stories of adult content. Some of what is already there should be considered for adult-check...or is it sufficiently hidden that you think it will not be lurked by the underaged?

24 hours have elapsed and I have seriously considered deleting my posts from last night. There is nothing quite so deadly for a topic than someone left to talk to him/herself. I try to keep that from happening everyhere on Spring that I know about. The only way to know how workable or good suggested ideas are is to bounce them off of people. I have gotten no feedback whatever. I gather I am expected to pull my rabbits out of my own hat. Genbtlemen, please help me with your comments...please?!

None of the inhouse links work, and the email comes back as undeliverable. No one will talk here. Kill it and me, too.

Make it easier to find your stories - you have to go to the tiny "comments' place to find them. Someone real, please talk to me...the page needs to be rearranged, though you prominently feature an offsite favorite of mine - which I do recommend highly.

http://www.totse.com/ Is a great looking site like we discussed before. Have not checked the links....

OK, so the first step is to make the stories more accessible? Bigger fonts? What else?

If you are serious about resdesigning adultstory, let's start with what the surfer sees first. That plum wallpaper is too intense for the little information on it, lacks texture which would break up the intensity a bit, and the electric green writing is great, but not on plum wallpaper. I'll go check and see what else I think might be of help.

The plum will suffice just fine if you make it about two shades darker....or even more. And, Please work on the Title of the page. Those every-which-way letters do not denote anything but a kiddie's page to me. Wrong message, I think.

Actually, the entire front page is pretty bad. That banner across the top better be paying you hugs amounts because it is just plain ugly! Perhaps a "gold" frame around it might make it more esthetic if it must be up there. I like the red flash behind the www.adultstory.com but the font must go! Yeesh! Another thought...all of those little names and words at the bottom are dark and irritating unless you highlight them. Then they are just plain annoying. What was the point of it? You also need to put a graphic of some sort or a table down the right side for the links...perhaps. But, unless that is your personal magnum opus in the wee italics, lose them!

Oh, and the horizontal bars in poetry conference would look fantastic there. I noted that you used none of them - at all. Any particular reason?

That site hasn't ever paid one penny.

Get rid of it then and find a more enticing graphic to put up there. Btw, all of my comments are merely suggestions. No one died and left me in charge...! I would like some feedback and how-abouts from the other side. Thanks for your comments so far. I think better if I have challenges or what-ifs from another poster.

Actually, that plum color is the color of the Alexandrite I am wearing...

Oh...that is under incandescent light. In sunlight it is a lovely tourmaline green and on a cloudy day it is a steely gray...but that is off topic...!

Out to a ballgame tonight, gentlemen... I love you, but you will have to entertain yourselves as best you can. Will you miss me *grin* U

I'm back...Shall I table dance for you or would you like to continue the discussion at hand?! I went into adultstory.com and there was nothing changed. That must mean I have to get that program Terry wants me to use and see what is possible - unless I'm gonna get help? Please?! You would not leave a nice person like me out here to founder unaided, would you?!

A great adult site must first be defined: words and erotica or pictures and porn? Both have something to reccommend them. My favorite adult site is the one that happens when I take a beautiful woman in my arms and forget about the rest of the world. What's yours?

Might I get to partake of your vision some time? It sounds incredible...!

If so, let's not tell the others. They might get jealous.