~terry
Sun, Dec 8, 1996 (14:24)
seed
Of course. This is the Spring. And this is the place to talk
about great springs and hot springs. How did you hear about these
springs? How do you find them? How do you rate them?
~hotsprings
Sun, Feb 16, 1997 (23:20)
#1
Hi--I write books on hot springs (Hot Springs and Hot Pools of the Southwest, and Hot Springs..Northwest. I am always interested in people's response to the pools they visit adn their evaluation of the springs. Of course, I just love to find out about anything new that I don't currently know about. I'd love to hear from you or at my email address hsprings@ix.netcom.com
~terry
Sun, Feb 16, 1997 (23:34)
#2
Welcome to our new topic. What can we do to get the word out about our 'springs
of the world' website project? What is the address of your website?
~stacey
Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (10:12)
#3
wish I were near a hot spring now. The snow is beautiful, it's the cold I stuggle with.
~terry
Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (10:48)
#4
What an image, steaming hot springs water rising from the snow covered terrain.
~stacey
Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (12:17)
#5
It's reality in some of these parts.
~spaman
Tue, Dec 9, 1997 (00:58)
#6
hey, i also wrote a book on hot springs, "spas & hot springs of mexico." am always eager to share my knowledge with others and to learn about new ones. i cover everything from the chi-chi spas to hot holes in the ground. there are supposed to be 700 hot springs in mexico and even i haven't visited them all. let me know what you have found. www.mexicomike.com.
~terry
Tue, Dec 9, 1997 (22:37)
#7
Can you give us your top ten list?
~spaman
Fri, Dec 12, 1997 (00:47)
#8
my own top ten depends on whether one is looking for world-class spas or mineral waters. in spas 1. punta serena, tenacatita 2. cocoyoc, cuatla 3. hosteria las quintas, cuernavaca. 4 mision del sol, cuernavaca. 5. paradise village, pto vallarta. 6. ixtapan de la sal (only for the waters, the spa is so-so)7. rancho la puerta, tecate. 8. rio caliente the rest are roughtly equal.
mineral waters: 1. la caldera, abasolo, 2. caracha, michocacan, 3. buenaventura, san juan cosala, 4. taboada, san migiel de allende 5, gogorron, san luis potosi, 6. taninul, cd. valles, 7, then it gets difficult to categorize.
~terry
Sat, Dec 13, 1997 (19:20)
#9
Tell us about punta serena!
~terry
Sun, Dec 28, 1997 (21:03)
#10
Hot Springs
Jim Powell mailto://chimpowl@well.com
just returned from a 10-day roadtrip to see dylan's shows at the el rey in
LA last week. we managed to hit 3 hotsprings in the course of our travels,
failing to find or access several others. we tried to stop at esalen on our
way down the coast but that week it was closed, and failed to find several
obscure springs in the Santa Ynez mts, despite assiduous poking around.
this past sunday, though, on the way to Joshua Tree we stopped at a nameless
spring in the mts above Palm Springs. after crossing 75 feet of boulder
field you intersect the remains of a driveway & follow it about a third of
a mile to the foundations of ruined rural estate. down a side alley from
here is the pool, about 7 X 12 feet, lined with cemented stone, 4 feet at
its deepest, i thought low 90s, by friends said high 90s, surrounded by huge
old palms with a view of the lights of Palm Springs in the distance below.
nameless & known only to locals, it's clean & well kept up. a half dozen
new homemade candles were waiting for us on the deck around the pool's rim.
next morning in Joshua Tree we woke to snow on the cacti.
coming back up the coast we stopped at las cruces, south of san luis. it's
only a half mile hike off the road (300 feet of elevation gain) so we
expected the worst, but it was quite clean, and unoccuppied on a tuesday
afternoon in december. set at the crotch of converging precipitous
drainages, surrounded by huge sycamores & live oaks, willow- and palm-
shaded, it is a charming spot. there are two pools, clean enough,
shallowish, tepid rather than hot. but the surroundings are magic,
defintely. i imagine we were lucky to have it to ourselves. it's a state
park, costs $2 to park.
last night (this morning, actually, at 1:00 AM) we were among the dozen
assembled at esalen's driveway. stone pools at cliff edge overhanging the
infinite pacific, delectable water too hot to soak unmixed, the moonless
starry firmament outspread across the infinite night, boy orion & his dog
chasing the kite of the pleades west toward san francisco -- multo
fantastico! earlier, an hour after sunset, we pulled out at an overlook &
got out to gaze at venus, mars & jupiter, continuing their dance in the
west, dazzled & amazed by the wide pool of venus' reflected light in a
pearly puddle on the waves.
~terry
Mon, Dec 29, 1997 (01:36)
#11
More from Jim Powell:
Left Berkeley at 3:15 friday afternoon heading up I 80 across the valley &
over the sierra, then 100 miles northeast on Nevada highways and finally 18
miles out gravel road into the desert, pulled in to Trego hotspring six
dizzy hours later. The spring has a steady flow of too hot water issuing
into a 200 foot long ditch 8 foot wide. 20 feet from the source it's cool
enough to soak. The water smells fairly sulfurous with a bizarre undertone
or hint of creosote or something like. Nicen deep, funky muddy bottom
(sorry I forgot my sandals or surfslippers; my companion showed more
prudence).
Besides a couple offroad vehical enthusiasts camped a quarter mile away we
had the spring to ourselves, a gorgeous balmy desert night with the moon one
night short of full. Climb in & soak for a while, climb out & stand in the
cool desert night air, drying. Repeat as desired.
The Western Pacific RR passes about 40 feet beyond the spring and provided a
midnight diversion -- headlights visible for 20 minutes coming across the
Black Rock Desert before the diesels were audible, then heard for 10 minutes
more before the freight hurtled by. Another train provided a second wakeup
call a half hour after the dawn's. The shaking earth makes an effective
alarm clock.
After a morning soak we drove into the thriving metropolis of Gerlach ("pop.
400" but I doubt it), fueled up & bought the local map of these remote &
otherwise largely uncharted parts, and took off north on nevada-mostly-
gravel-highway-34 up south willow creek canyon, rolling sage hills swelling
spare & desolate above a charming stream & litoral -- 2 yearling fawns
bathing at a shady bend -- creekbend cottonwood shade at a turnout
campsite.
Continued up 34 as far as the "Petrified Forest" ('petrified log' would be
more like it), and actually a couple miles past it in search of some
petroglyphs (which we failed to find, but did see 3 wild horses along the
way, as remote as freedom in america in the late 20th century -- just shut
up & take your pee-test), then backtracked a few miles to take the road (as
it is jocularly termed) to High Rock Lake, meaning to loop back south along
the west side of the Black Rock Range in pursuit of the elusive Double Hot
Springs on the edge of the Black Rock Desert. In a rented 'mid-size' Dodge
passenger car it took us about 90 minutes to drive the first 12.5 of the 15
miles to the lake before being balked by a bog at the foot of Little High
Rock Canyon (where we were duly enrolled among the visitors of the Little
High Rock Hilton, Prop. Prarie Dog. A 4-wheel drive might have been
somewhat speedier but wouldn't have saved the day in the end: the water is
several feet deep.
On the way in we stopped nearly at random for an hour's hike, clambering up
some volcanic rock formations to a local summit. Along the way we found an
area perched above a string of volcanic outcrops, with a commanding view of
a broad valley, where there are scattered many half-fashioned obsidian
arrowheads, the flawed discards of an ancient workshop, as well as a few of
the raw arrowheadsize gobbets of obsidian (are they called 'geodes'?) from
which the arrowheads were made. Truly a haunted spot.
Balked in our attempt to reach High Rock Lake and Double Hot Springs, we
retraced our path to Gerlach, then set out for our evening's destination,
the hotsprings at Pyramid Lake, circling around the north end of the lake on
a 60 mile series of gravel roads, and entering the reservation from the
north west. Along the way we encountered several antelope, the last a buck
who stopped 20 feet away to check us out when we stopped to do the same --
graceful even while skittishly turning, stunningly beautiful appaloosa-like
hide of shining white mottled with tawny gold, curly little antlers oddly
suggesting shepherds crooks or stamens, speeding away.
It was Saturday evening & there were maybe 30 people camped around the main
hot springs (near the geyser) at Needle Rocks, Pyramid Lake. We could find
no trace of the 2 other Hot Springs shown on the topo as further south and
west. We tripped around for a while but decided we wanted more solitude &
drove north along the lake shore 8 or 10 miles, made dinner & slept
Awakened at dawn by huge fierce Paiute warrior mosquitoes, we hit the road
early, driving south through Nevada, then into California behind Bridgeport,
stopping at Travertine Hot Springs for a welcome if chlorinated soak in full
view of the magnificent and sublime spectacle of the snowclad eastern
escarpment of the Sierra, then over Sonora Pass, stopping to admire the
hulking snowclad backsides of Three Chimneys, East Flange Rock & Granite
Dome, those mighty mountain presences that have dominated our western
horizon from the other side two summers now,and finally across the valley
and back to Berkeley in time for dinner just as Picante was closing 10:00 pm
Sunday. Ole!
~aschuth
Thu, Mar 11, 1999 (10:07)
#12
Ah, thanks for posting this, Terry!
It was so relaxing to read this.
Anyway, where I'm from in Germany, we also have lots of springs and spas, just north of Frankfurt. It's just not as wild and free as one might wish, it's very medical or commercial. We have lots of rehabilitation things, cardiological as well as orthopedic/rheumatic, where people from all over the world come to get better. In some places, there are pools with hot or warm water, salty and mineral rich. You can swim there (against a fee), and there are also treatments.
We have very nice mineral waters, some nearly red from the high amount of iron (that's why people from my county are known all over the world as being somewhat ironic...), some with lots of sulfuric compounds, some are extremely salty, some are just like - water!
Anyway, most Americans (and British, too) have a hard time drinking some german mineral waters (not to be confused with table waters); even most bottled brands don't fare well with them, as they don't like water with a taste and/or carbonation. At least I haven't met any that liked real mineral water.