how many people logged into the Spring today?

Here's 'dem numbers: bash# tail -100 usagelog Wed Mar 25: 3962 Thu Mar 26: 3951 Sat Mar 28: 0 Mon Mar 30: 1257 Mon Mar 30: 525 Thu Feb 7: 1639 Tue Mar 31: 1399 Wed Apr 1: 5641 Thu Apr 2: 3398 Fri Apr 3: 4051 Sat Apr 4: 2651 Sun Apr 5: 2636 Mon Apr 6: 2555 Tue Apr 7: 2874 Wed Apr 8: 2814 Thu Apr 9: 3480 Fri Apr 10: 3505 Sat Apr 11: 2488 Thu Feb 7: 1034 Sat Apr 11: 31 Mon Apr 13: 2807 Tue Apr 14: 3316 Wed Apr 15: 1246 Thu Feb 7: 407 Wed Apr 15: 1367 Thu Apr 16: 3462 Fri Apr 17: 3714 Sat Apr 18: 2498 Sun Apr 19: 2339 Mon Apr 20: 2707 Tue Apr 21: 2525 Wed Apr 22: 2823 Thu Apr 23: 3642 Fri Apr 24: 2281 Sat Apr 25: 2213 Sun Apr 26: 1793 Mon Apr 27: 3897 Tue Apr 28: 2567 Wed Apr 29: 2617 Thu Apr 30: 2833 Fri May 1: 2650 Sat May 2: 2168 Sun May 3: 2463 Mon May 4: 3996 Tue May 5: 3079 Wed May 6: 2873 Thu May 7: 2796 Fri May 8: 2455 Sat May 9: 2114 Sun May 10: 2610 Mon May 11: 2235 Tue May 12: 2593 Wed May 13: 2602 Thu May 14: 2208 Fri May 15: 1874 Sat May 16: 1980 Sun May 17: 1689 Mon May 18: 2903 Tue May 19: 2277 Wed May 20: 2885 Thu May 21: 1635 Fri May 22: 1421 Sat May 23: 771 Sun May 24: 709 Mon May 25: 724 Tue May 26: 1795 Wed May 27: 1268 Thu Feb 7: 724 Thu May 28: 1391 Fri May 29: 1152 Sat May 30: 1051 Sun May 31: 824 Mon Jun 1: 1331 Tue Jun 2: 1894 Wed Jun 3: 2255 Thu Jun 4: 1499 Fri Jun 5: 2404 Sat Jun 6: 1828 Sun Jun 7: 974 Mon Jun 8: 1577 Tue Jun 9: 1519 Wed Jun 10: 1308 Thu Jun 11: 1598 Fri Jun 12: 1499 Sat Jun 13: 1362 Sun Jun 14: 952 Mon Jun 15: 1247 Tue Jun 16: 1327 Wed Jun 17: 1950 Thu Jun 18: 2362 Fri Jun 19: 1571 Sat Jun 20: 932 Sun Jun 21: 1392 Mon Jun 22: 1720 Tue Jun 23: 1684 Wed Jun 24: 2466 Thu Jun 25: 1646 Fri Jun 26: 3473 Sat Jun 27: 1862 Tue Jun 30: 608 (so far today, it's early) Note Jun 28-29 are missing, that's cause we wuz down!

Holy $hit!!!

So, 7,192 logins today. That's a lot. I wish more folks who logged in would say things. Lurkerville!

(or at least give you a dollar!)

a dime even!

free will WER... you had every opportunity...

uh oh... you're pushing my buttons on this one... wanna take it outside (of this topic)?

why, yessum, I do. hotel, motel, bar, city park, chat room, or Cow and Chicken?

oooh. always fond of parks myself.

well, then, I'll dream of us in one tonight see ya

g'night!

Now, if that's not enough said for you, Terry, then you're a insatiable host!

There has been a big influx of traffic on modjane. I think that's pumping up our logins.

they've got, what, over a hundred topics now, right?

CRAZY!!!! I had a look at it - can't make ANY sense of it! Do you go there?

Why are you pi$$ed off at them? Did I miss some of the exciting old boom-pow-woom action? D@mn!

either topic 15 ("experts or not")... or topic 18 ("what's hot on the spring")... (this conference)... don't remember which... (but pretty sure it's one of those)...

yeah, it was pretty ugly there for a while...hmmmm...i don't remember where it was.....we do need to figure out how to bring more action to other topics, but at least people are visiting (even if just to do the modjane thang or to firth)!

So why don't we make a joint effort? Let's hijack them, people!!!

We don't call ourselves the SLA (spring liberation army) for nothing! And I choose Wer as my captain. THE CLAW IS MY MASTER!

hehe...

And I'll shout the commands, 'cos my voice is the ugliest. ATTEN ------ TION! NOW, DO THAT SALUTE THING TO OUR CAPTAIN CLAW! Don't just stand there, tell us what ta do!

Okay, ready...

So, how do I go about this?!?!?!?! Me and technology have never been great pals.

you could register an ml.org for that link; something like http://springart.home.ml.org which would save having to type in all the yapp-bin/ stuff see http://www.ml.org for more details

where do I register? Do I mail someone? Do I mail Terry for that?

Here's an idea. How about if every active person here tried to entice, recruit, invite, or cajole just one other person they knew to become an active participant here? How's that for a challenge?

it's a very hard challenge, i've found. i've tried to bring loads of people here; lots of them have registered, but then never come back.

I know!!! My friends think I'm crazy, and that it's dangerous (pleeeeeze!!!) to do this! But I'll see if I can get my sister to join . . . you'll regret it!

i invited a friend here to share in the taking apart of my brain, this evening.

Good. Just make sure the scalpel is sharp, otherwise it'll hurt.

Wed Jul 15: 2340 Thu Jul 16: 2474 so far today, the day isn't over yet. If you want to see this for yourself try this: !tail -5 /usr/bbs/usagelog (if you're a shell type person)

A shell type person??? What's that? Does that kind of person leave a slimy little trail behind wherever he/she goes?

C'est vous, Riette! You have a shell account now! You can pick up pointers from Staceyrama, wer-man, mikey, and the other shell type persons on here. Here's a list of shell types on www.spring.net: Saccess clay iphone michaelt semi abd clever isp mikeg shared abram codered jameswatson mimi sharing access comma janc minds sharon achea connie janh minter shey ackerman contuse java minton shrdlu adultstory cool jbuckner mirmir sicard advocate cooper jdagenais mirna silencefilm agarrett cortex jdaniel mixu sjones al cowboys jdoherty mmmrc snap alice crapak jeanene moira sofldf allie crosby jef mot sos allison cspur jeff motorblade sosldf ally ctla jenny mouse soup alweeda cuseeme jh movies spew amurray cw00d jher mpape spidaman amy davros jhines mplex spif amy2 dbii jim mqube sports angus ddw jmiaso mrabbit spring ann deejoe jmoore mrbob springpage anna deniz jody mrobens springyapp anne des johnt msworks ssabrina anneh dfox jonathon murati stacey aqua diana jpenner music staci arc direcpc julief mworley stagecoach archana dkitchell juste nan stc arisco doherty jwinsor nancy steve asharma donald jyerby nancyw stevev ati dpo ka5kth narcy strong atn drwool kaffeine nbba stroud attitude dspark karen nbc submit aubrey dutchman karenk net swire audioaxs dxiechkn kaylene netmeeting tca austen eatsolar kcook netrab tcarlin austena echo kd5aad neuroses tcla austencom epapers kelly new tcta austenunix epub kendall news tech austin er kerry ngaire ted auto family kim nick tedchong aworks ferror kk5mi nike teklay babes fig kma noreen terry band fingeware koblenz norma testuser bayou frankbo kreblon nt tex bearbear fringeware kristen ntc texaltel bernie ftc kristin ntrc thalerd beverly fw ktbc nutella theband bhg garret kvue obiwan tina billboy garrett kxan oldman tj billw gekko kym ondrox townhall blueray geoff kymc orient tvpc bntran gg lafn owlseye tvu bob ginnygal lavalley paciotti twqi boomer golla lburton patches twri bottomer gray ldarj paul ule boyce great lee pcmattic undertheflag brain greg legaffe pelles valerie bratwood gusball letitia peter valrm brenner ham life preston vard brill harley linda procoat vplaces bsdi harrie list public vsix bubbi heather liz ratboy w3mrc bwitt helpers louis riette walhus caferace hmc ltpro rikam web cam home lucy river webcam carbon hooloo manual rjpepper webedge carol horns mark robg webpager carolina horse martin ronl webpages.txt carolyno hosts matt rosato webrev cash house maureenh rosey well catfood hubbard max rrosell werner cathey hugo mbht rross william ces humdog mckinney rtadmin wizards cfadm ian melon rus wmmeyers charles ianoz merrill sandrabullock womack charlesw ichat mfox sarahbe work child info mhc scottc zen chris interact mich scotth zimeis cidneye invoice michael scottk These are all our shell users. Uh, some of them are imaginary like sandrabullock (designed to get mail for http://www.sandrabullock.net website and some of these are mainly for folks websites. By the way, I have some exciting news.

1. Why do I want to pick up shell types? 2. What exactly do I DO with shell types once I've picked them up. 3. What is the exciting news?

1. Shell is what's happenin' babeee! 2. You cruise the spring like greaded lightnin' 3. The exciting news, Jeff Kramer jeff@spring.net is building us a kick butt machine! With 8 gigs of storage.

I know what gigs are. They are the ones that are bigger than megabytes. So I'm sure that does make Jeff a super-duper-kick-butt-brains-balls-machine-builder.

Too cool! :-)

greaded sb greased, oops By the way, feel free to comment on our "live" party feed today. IN the party like it's 1999 topic.

ha-ha! And the synonym for summer.net would be uncool.net.

Have you ever noticed that there's no synonym for the word synonym?

But there's an antonym.

hmm...

Which again has has a synonym.

woops.

From murph@interport.net Tue Jul 14 00:09:38 1998 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:09:38 -0400 (EDT) To: nettime-l@Desk.nl From: murph the surf Subject: A Burglar in the Treasure House Sender: owner-nettime-l@basis.Desk.nl Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 93c489d88549b877ec35f839ca65d38d INTELLIGENT AGENT 2.3 http://intelligentagent.com A Burglar in the Treasure House by Robbin Murphy A Review of Visual Thesaurus by Plumb Design http://www.plumbdesign.com/thesaurus Thesaurus means "treasure house" in Latin and so it seems apt that the origins of this handy writer's tool lie some two hundred years in the past, in the prison cell of an Englishman named Peter Mark Roget (1779-1869) to be more precise. His predicament gives rise to the intriguing image of an unlucky burglar/writer patiently plotting his heist for when he breaks out of his jail (writer's) block unknowing that he is, like all of us, a prisoner of language and can never escape. However, the truth is that for political reasons, Roget-a quiet and honest student-was unfairly thrown into prison for a year. To pass the time and to keep his wits he turned his philosophically inclined mind to constructing a list of one thousand terms to use as a "repertory" of words embodying ideas. After his release he went on to become a successful physician and scholar and continued to add words and phrases to his list throughout his long life. In 1852, after he'd retired, Roget published this list as the first Roget's Thesaurus and it was an immediate bestseller-not with philosophers as he'd intended, but with writers who immediately used it to enhance their writing skills. To this day there are not only the descendants of the original work but myriad printed texts using the generic term "thesaurus" published by others as well as electronic versions included in major word publishing applications. At first, many writers probably feel a certain sense of guilt when they reach for the thesaurus on their desk, or click on the item under the HELP menu on their computer, as if admitting to a failure for not having the entirety of their respective language at their immediate disposal. But the tool's usefulness soon puts that concern to rest as the depth and richness of their writing increases-or appears to. What these books can't do, and what Roget intended, is give us a picture of the way words are intricately linked in a web of meaning very much in the way our minds are set to work by association. As it happens, Roget was also the person to postulate the theory of "persistence of vision" and discover that images remain on the retina a split second after the source is removed from the visual field. This finding became the basis for, at first, children's toys like flip-books and magic lantern projections, and later, of course, motion pictures. It is only appropriate that Plumb Design should use the concept of a thesaurus to demonstrate the flexibility of their Thinkmap software. Linked to the WordNet database created by the Cognitive Science Laboratory at Princeton University this java-based program creates "Maplets" that enable users to visualize verbal associations of meaning by creating 3-D animated clusters of words connected by fine lines. Instead of a list of alternatives users see subtle variations with the most appropriate choices appearing as the visually brightest. As you move through the network, words realign and intensify or fade away but they don't immediately disappear. There is that "persistence of vision" worked into it. While a word may no longer be the best choice based on the point of view it is still there, in the distance as a reminder of the complexity of language. The WordNet database from which the "Visual Thesaurus" draws its material is a dictionary based on psycho-linguistic theories (used for artificial intelligence research) containing over 50,000 words and 40,000 phrases arranged into over 70,000 sense meanings and is available from Princeton University for free. Plumb Design has a copy of it on their server for Web access and a stand-alone version that will be compatible with Microsoft Word is in the works. "Visual Thesaurus" is probably not the best productivity-enhancing tool for people who want their information quickly-the temptation to spend time in its game-like environment creating poetical word associations is too great-but the program is wonderful in that it attracts and delights, and resonant because it is a natural learning environment. The "Thinkmap" software that is the engine for "Visual Thesaurus" is a powerful, flexible and responsive tool for displaying any type of complex information by turning the data into animated displays that encourage interaction. "Thinkmap" is also behind the Smithsonian Institution's Revealing Things online exhibit where visitors navigate the exhibit at their own pace and in their own direction depending on their interests but guided by rules defined by the curator. It allows for exploration and interesting juxtaposition of objects without leaving the visitor lost. Raw data can be beautiful in its own way, though it isn't very useful without some kind of organization and interface design. That is why we create data filters. Sometimes online data is left in semi-raw form as lists to scroll down our screens or else it's tarted up with some basic HTML and, if we're lucky, hyperlinks. Rarely is it presented in a manner that we enjoy interacting with and even more elusive is a presentation that allows us to gain deeper meaning as this one does. Mark Tinkler, Plumb Design's Chief Technology Officer and Creative Director who studied architecture and computer science at Carnegie Mellon University, is behind both the thesaurus and "Thinkmap" (the latter developed when he was the chief technologist at Razorfish). At 24 he may be a sign of the future -- that much-anticipated breed of artist/programmer who instinctively combines aesthetic concerns with object-oriented code, qualities that make him a perfect collaborator as we break into the treasure house of language. OTHER URLs Thinkmap http://www.thinkmap.com/ WordNet http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/~wn/ Smithsonian Institution Revealing Things http://www.si.edu/revealingthings/ Razorfish http://www.razorfish.com INTELLIGENT AGENT http://intelligentagent.com _____________________________________________________ ROBBIN MURPHY murph@artnetweb.com 426 Broome Street, NYC 10013 212-925-1885 i o l a http://artnetweb.com/iola/ --- # distributed via nettime-l : no commercial use without permission # is a closed moderated mailinglist for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@desk.nl and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # URL: http://www.desk.nl/~nettime/ contact: nettime-owner@desk.nl Smithsonian Institution Revealing Things http://www.si.edu/revealingthings/ A Review of Visual Thesaurus by Plumb Design http://www.plumbdesign.com/thesaurus I just checked it out. It's pretty groovy. Just turn on the "Auto-Navigate" function and it's a complete standalone art piece. Is this cool! Sorry this was so long folks, but I just thought to be tres cool!

Tres, tres cool, groovy, hip, outta sight...

we do miss you tons, wer!

hey kitchenmanager if you leave now then i will never get the chance to know you.....

sorta... but you can always read all the back posts around here...

Think you're being hunted, muffin!

hey kitchen manager are you saying that you won't stick around so that i can meet you atleast,,,,,heard you were interesting......

time will tell, no? (if I keep you in suspense, you'll stick around longer, too...) from whom are you getting your rumors?

hey kitchen manager wanna thank you for the meal the other day it was very good,and i am italian so i should know, i do plan on eating there again,,and i have told alot of my friends about the good food you guys serve there. I am even thinking about trying to get a job as a waitress there...what do you think>?

call me or check in here tomorrow night and I'll let you know what's open at work, however I don't hire the waitstaff... thanks for spreading the word, that means alot...

Go, Terry, Go!

Wonder why it's so quiet today?

Yes, me too. It's only been you, me and Wolf so far, hasn't it? Wer's been silent as the grave. Anyway, I want to ask you something, Terry. The weather is still bad, so the video is having a bit of a rather irritating stand-still. Could I therefore throw in a helicopter ride I had two year ago over Table Mountain in Cape Town? I think I've also got some stuff about Z�rich that I did for Mum and Douw three years ago that I could use - it looks just the same now as it did back then, and I'd get the ta e finished alot quicker. The only problem is that I speak Afrikaans on it, but does that really matter? Alot of people don't have the audio thing anyway - I don't. I can see what else I've got as well - there might be some sweet things of my kids from when they were smaller. Don't have anything recent, but that I can do indoors. I don't know how else to fill the tape up!

Of course, of course, toss it in! And then fire it off to my humble abode and I will pop it in the vcr and play it on our main page. This weekend the Whole Life Expo will be happening and I've commissioned a talented videographer named Kirsten to interview folks and do video. It will start playing early next week.

Cool! Can't wait to see it! And, thanks! Now I'll be able to finish the video alot quicker.

Our stats for the last ten days or so. 9.6 days to be exact. Analysed requests from Sat-25-Sep-1999 20:04 to Tue-05-Oct-1999 10:25 (9.6 days). (Figures in parentheses refer to the last 7 days). Successful requests: 123,780 (83,718) Average successful requests per day: 12,896 (11,959) Successful requests for pages: 18,240 (12,311) Average successful requests for pages per day: 1,900 (1,758) Redirected requests: 453 (270) Distinct files requested: 6,650 (5,428) Distinct hosts served: 6,219 (4,621) Corrupt logfile lines: 23 Data transferred: 1,020 Mbytes (763,964 kbytes) Average data transferred per day: 108,865 kbytes (109,137 kbytes)

woo woo! one year plus later... rejuvenation!

Yapp keeps stats too, on the number of logins per day, which I'll look at soon and post here.

I love it!

It is also why I continue to pay for AOL when I do not use it...it is great for travelling...and my simple-minded other can figure it out...but I much prefer my Hawaii on Line ISP. They would not have given away my IM's for ANY reason.

...of yes, and beside the phone line splitter, I carry a long extension cord for my laptop, and a long (at least 20 feet) patchcord for the phone..I do not like sitting on the floor of strange public places...*grin*

...and pack a three-way plug just in case there are not enough outlets...!

*laugh* you are quite the techno traveler... now we just need to get you hooked up with a phone like Paul's...

Tell me about his phone...I travel with short wave radio and scanner (the police/fire/rescue kind not the image-into-computer kind)...I am a very curious person and NEED to know way more than is good for me *grin* It is a heredity thing - I got it from my son via my father...

I have an AT&T Pocketnet phone which gives you unlimited email and web browsing for $30 a month, unlike some services like the new Palm VII which charges you a rate per kilobyte of data used. You can use the pocknet phone to look up phone nnumbers, surf various information and stock websites, and send and receive emails of any length. And the best part is that it's a flat rate $30 per month. It's not as sexy as the Palm, but it's relatively cheap and gets the job done. It also will synchronize your Outlook appointments, calendar, address book and task list automatically if you use pumatech's software that they give you on their Pocketnet or pumatech website.

Woo Woo! And I sent emails from it!

It's great for reading email on the fly, it's a stretch to compose and send an email using a touchtone pad, at best you get out a few words or a simple acknowldgement that you got the email. You can think of it more as a pager. I found a website tonight which gives you a free 800 number, so I signed up for one, you can now leave me voicemails at 877-228-0901 tollfree. It's from http://www.ureach.com. Pat McGuire, who just sold his http://www.wirelessvideo.com domain name for $120,000, just called me and told me he got one. He was pretty pumped about this service. It hasn't dawned on him yet that he just got a free house (the equivalent).

Good Heavens! $120,000!!! It IRS will bring him to reality soon enough! The land and house in which I am sitting is appraised for tax purposes (1/3 acre) at $150,000...so I can imagine reality has not quite hit him yet. I imagine I am just not busy enough to quite justify having one of those sweet little pbhone/pager/web browsers of my very own. Something to think about, though! Thanks for the interesting URLs, too.

(Does that mean I could call that number and say Aloha and you would hear me - or hear something else say what I said? .....hmmmm)

Nope, it's just voice mail and I need to activate it first. Hold on. It also reads your email to you. My email there is springnet@ureach.com It also accepts faxes and reads them to you over your voicemail.

(Does that mean I could call that number and say Aloha and you would hear me - or hear something else say what I said? .....hmmmm)

I would hear your voicemessage, yes, but you can't call me direct on it. You can send a fax to it and it will read me the fax. All this is free, according to the website.

(honest...I did not post the above a second time...and it happened to me in Drool a few minutes ago...are we overtaxing the Spring's servers?!) I shall not disturb your peaceful existance with noise from Hilo...was just curious!

...make that....whales breathing... oops!

Yea, 'cos else it'd hafta haf been "Welsh breathing", and who wants to listen to that? (Marcia, good to be back. Extremely busy times here - not hell as in "production hell", but "post-production stuff", i.e. promo, marketing, distribution, mending sore spots and souls [and soles, too!], mixed with "pre-production muck", i.e. readying stuff for next issue, working on office hardware & infrastructure, trying to raise money for some colour pages for an artist portfolio [Juan Burgos from Montevideo, Uruguay, whom the editors had the pleasure to meet two days ago and have had over for dinner an entertainment yesterday], trying to rig sponsorships and partnerships, and pointing our arrows, the extremely brilliant people working for superstar, to new stories and topics for this year's last ish. Normally, there's a slow month following hitting the news stands, then one month of work and a month of hell-in-an-office. The slow month is dropped due to 03/99 having been delayed, and us keeping 4/99 on schedule.)

It is so good to hear that you are being occupied with entertaining and worthy projects and work rather than hell-in-the-office kind of necessary tedium all of the time. Meeting interesting people is always invigorating to the mind and soul; enjoy! (I have listened to Welsh breathing - nothing out of the ordinary. Nothing like the leviathans just off-shore here!)

(Oh. Is that something like heavy breathing, laced with a bitter or a lager?)

Sorry, Alexander, no hefeweizen on the breath of our leviathans, just plankton!

:=}

(Just for the record, I'm an Export drinker, not a Pilsener, Kristall- or Hefeweizen-man. I appreciate dark beers, too, and also K�lsch and Alt. But most of all, I love Apfelwein, the local type of apple cider - not related to beer at all.)

(And my Apfelwein consumption goes down in the cold months, and in Summer depends much on the brand. Some stuff is considered indrinkable by me; I prefer the Apfelwein made in some bars by the proprietors, or some people around the village.)

I know the freezing method is applied by nomads in Mongolia, possibly also Siberia to make their booze more proof without distilling it... Never had Apple Jack. Apfelwein is a special thing of this area, and there are quite some nice places that make their own (as well as freshly pressed apple juice).

It must have an incredibly wonderful fragrance!

Well, it's sour.

Ah...it has already gone through the stages of fermentation. That attracts all sorts of little buzzing creatures. That part of the process is not as esthetic to the nose as crushing the apples when fresh, and the aroma of the finished product...

Yes, you get the fresh juice, it's called Most. And if slightly fermented, it's called Rauscher ("rusher"), because that's what it gets the consumer... It's like the Federweisser, the half-fermented wine. Very enjoyable in light doses!

You'd have Zwiebelkuchen with either of the three drinks (an onion-tarte). I love Autumn for this!

HUNGRY !!! Gimme some of it - sounds wonderful! Do you have a Zwiebelkuchen-recipe? Maybe I'll try this! Don't you get stomach-ache from fermented applejuice AND onions? (Like mmh - winds?)

Isabel, it's all a matter of dosis.

Ah, yes: S�sser (rather: S��er)! No, that's not alcoholic - that like Most... I always thought... Or do the Swiss call S��er what we call Rauscher? Marcia - Think of how much your fresh pineapples ALL YEAR ROUND tortures me! If that doesn't cheer you up...!

Goodness, Alexander, do you lust after pineapples? Might have to ship you a few to keep you from imploding or whatever happens to the pineapple-deprived...! But, it should probably be after there is no threat of freezing. They get pretty boozy after that (which is ok, too, depending on your proclivities)

Boozy pineapples! WOW! Our S�sser actually comes from Italy, I believe, and can be alcoholic or non-alcoholic - depending on the stage of fermentation. It is the one case where I find the alcoholic version tastier.

Oh, but then your stuff would be Federwei�er from grapes, no? If you get some bottles of either Federwei�er or Rauscher (the cap has to be punctured lest they explode...), they have to be kept in the fridge. Still, every day they taste different, as the fermentation process goes on, changing sugar into alcohol. Marcia, fresh pineapples are quite a feast to me! Easy for you, but we are pineapple-y challenged here...

Cannot have a fine gentleman be pineapple-y challenged while your friend resides in the land where they grow in every yard. Let me check around and see what the shippers suggest as to the freeze potential and whether or not they suggest we wait until spring (6 long months from now?!) Perchance you may be surprised on of these days....please email me your snailmail address so I have a place to send them!

Whatever you do from now on, DON'T open yer mail with bare hands, Alexander!!

For agricultural products entering a country, they will open it at each border, eat some to see if it passes inspection, then send it on with huge labels proclaiming the box to contain PINEAPPLES as though you could not tell by the aroma surrounding the box...!

Or the little fruit flies!

Don't even think Fruit Flies. Some places on the Mainland of the US would like to ban all ag imports from the Islands due to them...! There will be rigorous inspection before they ever leave here - no insects whatsoever will be allowed out of Hawaii to you!

I'm not sure what's going on here, keep me posted. Only the conference hosts can scribble posts. I need more details.

All I can tell you was that I noted by accessing her post using recent/333 that I could read it. I commented on it and submitted my response. When mine came up hers was gone. Telnet stated that it had been "censored and scribbled". Since she is about ready to sleep I will ask her more this evening when she awakens tomorrow (very confusing when you commune with someone on the other side of the Date Line...) Her ISP is peculiar. When you hit the reply button to respond to her eamil, her address shows p as which is not usable. Consequently all message board items are permanently bouncing. Oh well. Will tell you more when I know more.

OK hmmm, wonder if it's a date problem?

Don't know...others from Australia do not have this posting problem. She seems to have to do about 4 posts before one takes. Most frustrating...and not just on Books and Drool and Geo - it happens every time she tries.

Well, we offer telnet accounts to anyone who has problems on the web. They're more reliable for posting.

Good idea...I shall ask her about that and then suggest she contact you or Ray Lopez (who set me up here in telnet)for help setting up an account. Thanks!

I did inform Anne of her options. She was grateful and gracious about it and said she would consider it and get back to me. Thanks, Terry.

But charge her for that service, Marcia: "That'll be, wait, ten quality posts, naw, I'm generous, say, seven! Seven quality posts a day during the next fourteen days EACH outside of Drool..." ;=}

When Terry sets up access to telnet accounts on Spring for us he does not charge for that...how could I possibly do the same. Besides, this lady has been a very special friend to me and helping her would be like helping you...I could not even think of charging either one of you *smile* Now, if you can think of a way to get nusiance posters to apy we just might be rid of them for ever!

Yeh yeh, easy, Fury! Hoh! I was jus' kiddin', ok? But still, it'd BE nice to have her about and around...

Oh Heavens, I did not mean to be rid of AnneH....she is a dear friend who sends me thing to post from Cricket to weather in weatern Australia to earthquakes anywhere in the world, and so on. We also discuss things Welsh (now, how many people can I do that with on Spring?!)...AnneH is anything but an nusiance, and that is why I am going through the exercises to get her posting properly. She is an admitted user of IE (Her husband's computer and he lIKES it!)...but that cannot be the entire answer to her roblem with posting. Still thinking...!

I use IE, but then I use telnet to post and read usually. Browsers seem so interminably show, even with my ISDN and T-1 connections.

Your download can only be as fast as the site you are downloading from is sending it to you. My son keeps telling me this, and gave me the formula for figuring the max speed at which one could download even with the best equipment on both ends. It was amazingly slow!

Our stats! Statistics Report Range: 04/19/2000 03:14:48 - 06/07/2000 03:10:45 Hits Entire Site (Successful) 557,743 Average Per Day 11,382 Home Page 6,969 Page Views Page Views (Impressions) 133,535 Average Per Day 2,751 Document Views 127,491 Visitor Sessions Visitor Sessions 79,594 Average Per Day 1,624 Average Visitor Session Length 00:14:46 International Visitor Sessions 0% Visitor Sessions of Unknown Origin 100% Visitor Sessions from United States 0% Visitors Unique Visitors 28,200 Visitors Who Visited Once 23,217 Visitors Who Visited More Than Once 4,983

Low home page views. About 4 or 5 million hits a year it looks like. Anyone know the definition of a "hit"?

Is it not how often a page is accessed from outside? Not my going from on topic in Geo to another or even from conference to another. It is when I access it again from outside the Spring. At least, it is how I interpret it.

General Statistics Date & Time This Report was Generated Tuesday April 17, 2001 - 22:05:53 Timeframe 04/06/01 03:11:12 - 04/17/01 03:10:54 Number of Hits for Home Page 1,827 Number of Successful Hits for Entire Site 1,355,332 Number of Page Views (Impressions) 228,264 Number of Document Views 211,774 Number of User Sessions 89,354 User Sessions from United States 0% International User Sessions 0% User Sessions of Unknown Origin 100% Average Number of Hits Per Day 123,212 Average Number of Page Views Per Day 20,761 Average Number of User Sessions Per Day 8,123 Average User Session Length 00:07:33 Number of Unique Users 30,959 Number of Users Who Visited Once 24,294 Number of Users Who Visited More Than Once 6,665

11 days 1.3 million hits. Thank you Karen Rosenberg! And Bridget Jones. And Colin Firth!

Right now we might be the number one fan site on the net.

That is pretty damn cool...

It's tres cool and edgy.

Some recent stats: Sat 04/28/2001 50,536 4,050 495,158 K 3,195 Sun 04/29/2001 122,035 8,587 1,083,401 K 7,088 Mon 04/30/2001 164,084 12,726 1,641,696 K 8,340 Tue 05/01/2001 80,311 6,796 739,872 K 3,752 Total 421,626 35,851 3,968,771 K 22,591

The columns are hits, page views, kbytes and visits. About 100,000 hits a day plus, which is a 3 million - 4 million hits per month pace. Bridget Jones is red hot!

bbs logins Sun Apr 29: 3901 Mon Apr 30: 5729 Tue May 1: 6937 Wed May 2: 6857 Thu May 3: 8035 Fri May 4: 5526 Sat May 5: 4018 Sun May 6: 4285 Mon May 7: 5318 Tue May 8: 4575

Most of my regulars for Geo have not found their way back here. I shall have to rattle cages once again!

Wow, yeah, definitely rattle those cages!

I seem to be attracting the readers again. Perhaps they too would enjoy a trip to see Kilauea erupt even if it is just in my memory.

Thu Mar 30: 12717 Fri Mar 31: 9288 Sat Apr 1: 8296 Sun Apr 2: 9398 Mon Apr 3: 10265 Tue Apr 4: 8602 Wed Apr 5: 7756 Thu Apr 6: 8151 Fri Apr 7: 7405 Sat Apr 8: 4728 Sun Apr 9: 5702 Mon Apr 10: 7227 Tue Apr 11: 7920 Wed Apr 12: 8008 Thu Apr 13: 6649 Fri Apr 14: 6031 Sat Apr 15: 4869 Sun Apr 16: 4650 Mon Apr 17: 6047 Tue Apr 18: 7309 This is the number of log ins by day on all the conferences. I don't know if I can get log in stats by conferences.