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Topic 31 · 56 responses · archived october 2000
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~stacey seed
Star Trek
~stacey #1
dammit! I did it again! hey Mr. Host fix this damn thing willya? And I promise to stop adding topics while telnetting!!! (really!) I wanted a Star Trek topic... *sigh*
~KitchenManager #2
I'll delete it next time I log in as wer...
~MarciaH #3
then I suppose I should not post here - want to give it to me to run? Terry wants us to have lots of topics active but tonight I am mostly Brain Dead. William, I'll leave the decision up to you!
~KitchenManager #4
Brain Dead...hmmm...me, too!
~riette #5
duh duh .... DUH �failing miserably at showing signs of brain activity�
~terry #6
We need to ship out some bottles of brain enhancer.
~MarciaH #7
Send loads to Hilo, please!
~KitchenManager #8
none here, I would never sleep again...
~MarciaH #9
(Terry's special elixir comes with an antidote as soon as you don't need it any longer. He just offered it to the Brain Dead in Hilo as a kindness...
~MarciaH #10
I was allowed to be the little kid today and tag along behind our resident genius, William, as he did some serious interior decorating on this conference. It has been an incredible 12 hours and I appreciate how much work went into some of the details which make it so special. Thank you for letting me come along on this incredible journey to enlightenment.
~autumn #11
Your hard work really shows! (*kissing up big time*)
~MarciaH #12
Ssssshhhh.....don't want him to notice....Don't tell! btw, Welcome back!
~KitchenManager #13
If that comment is for me, thanks, but what did you do to need to kiss up to me?
~terry #14
I'm going to have to jump on the web and see all these changes, I'm telnetting in as usual.
~terry #15
Wow, I'm on the web, and cool stuff!
~KitchenManager #16
Thanks, any other suggestions?
~aschuth #17
You rule ok?
~autumn #18
Wer, you're like the Dow scrubbing bubbles--You work hard so we don't have to!
~MarciaH #19
Love the look of carpeting in here. Every time I load the TV Conference I feel like there is plush stuff on the floor inviting me to stay. Lovely stuff!
~wolf #20
if she says so herself *grin* wer: gots an idea for the buttons. maybe we can make them like the old tv dials or just a tv screen with the choices in them (you know, for creat topic, etc.)!! watcha think? huh, huh, huh?
~wolf #21
*blush* should be "create topic" not "creat topic" *blush again* thanks for entertaining my ideas!
~KitchenManager #22
no prob...and, I could do that or, better yet, so could you...
~wolf #23
got me there! i just want to say that this place looks so great!! netfusion will allow me to create whole websites but i'll check to see if i can make buttons and save them as such.
~KitchenManager #24
you gotta be able to somehow... you made the ones in paraspring afterall...
~aschuth #25
Nice telly... Now the buttons? Puleeeze?
~wolf #26
the paraspring was made with a trial version of netstudio, which i no longer have. but i'll see what i can do, k?
~MarciaH #27
Cantcha just go to Paraspring and hokus pokus up some just the right color and size?
~KitchenManager #28
besides, Wolf, you have PaintShopPro, and that's what I made the banner in here with... and the little tv is Microsoft clipart, btw...
~wolf #29
no, don't have paint shop pro. had the trial on that too but it's gone now *smile*
~MarciaH #30
She should have MS paint. Would that be of any help? It is on the computer from the bigness of Bill Gates' heart when you get W95.
~MarciaH #31
Are we getting paid for that banner at the top of the page? I rather think not since it is a dead link. Want it removed or should well enough be left alone?!
~terry #32
Put a visto link there! I wonder when they'll pay us the hundreds they owe us?
~MarciaH #33
The person who put the Visto links up so well ( who is vacationing on the lovely Greek Island of Hiatus) admitted it was not as easy as it appeared, but I shall give it a try since I have access to the template for it in Geo. I'll wait till everyone is asleep so I can restore it back to the banner which is already there if necessary...!
~MarciaH #34
Yeah - I check through a lot - they should pay you!!!
~MarciaH #35
I just tried to do it, but I am not authorized to change anything in there so I could not do it. I know how, but it will not accept my changing anything. Suggestions?
~terry #36
We can change your permissions so you can.
~MarciaH #37
As you wish...I am only too happy to be of help.
~terry #38
Maybe our Halloween ghost cfadm will help with this?
~MarciaH #39
That would be even better.
~MarciaH #40
Perhaps we should make the request in another more private conference where the cfadm is more likely to see it?
~MarciaH #41
With the new colorfully ethnic buttons and the amazing horizontal bars and the red visto banner, this is the most colorful conference on the entire Spring. I have emergency sunglasses beside the monitor just in case... It is lovely in here...*smile
~terry #42
Wow, makes me wish I were on the web now.
~MarciaH #43
When I telnet, I keep a window open on main (so I can see me logged in on telnet and smile.) If there is some post including a graphic or photo I want to see, I can just go to the window, look, then comment in telnet. The best of both worlds, is it not? I can also quickly check if there have been new posts by using the /confifty/ url without having to scroll through all of the conferences again. I like that! So, pop up a windown and peek in. Put on your shades first, though...it is very edgy in here now!
~terry #44
I like that last 50 comments feature, thanks to William for that.
~MarciaH #45
I use it regularly. In fact, I check into Spring that way and login there. I believe he told me about it when I was hunting posts to which he was referring. It is a brilliant concept and most useful. Mahalo Mucho
~terry #46
Next on the wish list is a page that automatically puts up all the new posts as they are posted and allows you to respond to them.
~MarciaH #47
That is what confifty does in Windows. Just click on the newest (at the top of the order)in the topic on interest to you...Or do you wish for one on which you do not have to hit the reload button? Actually, when you go post a comment then return to confifty, it is auto-magically updated.
~terry #48
I'd like to see the whole post with all the text and a text box after each post where you could comment and submit. Wouldn't that be awesome?
~MarciaH #49
Awesome, indeed. Especially considering the volume put out by Drool alone...! Would that entice you into windows to read and post?! *gasp*
~MarciaH #50
Can anyone tell me if Harsh Realm is on televison anywhere, please!
~MarciaH #51
http://www.comics2film.com/HarshRealm.shtml X-Files creator Chris Carter recently spoke to Eon Magazine about his upcoming Harsh Realm TV Series. The show is based on a comic book created by James Hudnall and Andrew Paquette. Of the comic, Carter said, "There were elements in it that I really liked a lot and I thought it was a great vehicle for telling a series of stories. No one had ever tackled virtual reality in a satisfactory way on network television. I think parallel worlds are great ways to tell stories. This is really what I was shooting for, a way to tell stories about the human condition, using war as a backdrop." Carter also commented to Eon about cinematic influences on the show, " What I wanted to do was to do a TV show that had elements of some of my favorite movies: Paths of Glory, Platoon, Blade Runner, a lot of really good early war movies. And this was my way of doing that, using a contemporary element, which was the virtual reality element. This I think has a tremendous romantic story and has a great mythology potential as well. There's a conspiracy at work here. There is another world, a parallel world that people can go back and forth between. I think it's a great chance to tell allegorical stories, which is I think one of the storytelling conventions that provides the best of series television." One movie that didn't influence the show is the recent virtual reality hit, The Matrix. "I didn't know about The Matrix until our show was shot," Carter told Eon. "I saw it and there were elements that I think you're going to find in any kind of parallel world idea. So I think there were some similarities. I was impressed by a lot of what they did in that movie. I was super impressed by the special effects in that movie. I think that Harsh Realm, even though it is a virtual reality idea, is much different than The Matrix. And I think that what we've done, too, is we've set the stage for many episodes of this show, where a show like The Matrix I think might have to change its concept a little bit in order to do the same thing." Fans can read more of Carter's thoughts on Harsh Realm at the Eon Magazine website. Fans can also view a teaser trailer for the show at the Fox.com website.
~MarciaH #52
I think it may be a while before Fox airs it: http://www.hollywoodcomics.com/paq0.jpg Reported by Comics 2 Film 3/1/2000 Andrew Paquette and James Hudnall scored a victory against Twentieth Century Fox, Chris Carter and Harris Publications yesterday in U.S. District Court in New York. Paquette and Hudnall are the creators of the Harsh Realm comic book and the plaintiffs in a well-publicized lawsuit over appropriate credit and fair dealing with regards to Carter's TV version of their concept. District Judge John S. Martin, Jr. rendered a preliminary injunction against Fox and Carter, which orders them to display an improved credit on the show. Harsh Realm is slated to begin airing this month on the FX Network. "I'm pretty happy," Paquette told Comics 2 Film. "Of course, we've been expecting this for a long time." When the show originally aired on the Fox network, it sported a prominent, opening-credit card which read "Created By Chris Carter". Hudnall and Paquette's names did not appear in the initially aired episodes at all. Subsequent episodes ran with a tiny "inspired by" credit which flashed by during the closing scroll. Tuesday's ruling by Judge Martin states that this is unacceptable. "The problem with this solution is that the 'Created by' credit appears at the very beginning of the show almost an hour earlier," Martin wrote. "It is not reasonable to believe that viewers dashing to get to the refrigerator between television shows will give the same attention to the credits at the end of the show as they do to those at the beginning. Thus, the defendants' actions, while an improvement, do not solve the problem of consumer confusion." The ruling orders that, if the show is to air, Fox must insert an "inspired by" credit in the opening credits. The new card would be inserted immediately after the "written by" credit. The ruling allows a created by credit for Carter to appear earlier in the opening sequence. While it's not exactly what Hudnall and Paquette hoped for, the injunction is a first-round victory in what is likely to be a long legal process. While Carter and Fox maintained that the credits were appropriate in regards to the regulations set forth by the Writers' Guild of America, Judge Martin ruled that the network's agreement with the guild is no defense for violating federal laws. Quoting the same authority that the defendants' cited, the ruling reads, "the 'reproduction of a work with a false representation as to its creator' could support a finding of false designation [of] origin where the defendant failed to credit the original creator." The suit also spotlights inconsistencies in the WGA's handling of the issue. WGA rules forbid awarding a "created by" credit when source material exists. The Harsh Realm TV show is obviously an example of something developed from source material. The court ruling solidifies the claim that the comic is the source material for the show. If the WGA continues to allow Carter to hold the "created by" credit, it would seem to be in violation of the WGA's own regulations. Paquette tells C2F that, while the victory is very encouraging the "inspired by" credit is still short of what he and Hudnall want. "In the industry, an 'inspired by' credit is not really worth all that much. An 'inspired by' is typically given to people who have no business in 'the business' and who have no future prospects in 'the business' either." Paquette suggested the 'inspired by' credit would typically be awarded to a concept exchanged during something like a casual, coffee-shop conversation. Conversely a 'based on' implies much more substantial source material. "There's a huge difference between having six published issues of a comic book series, that we're paid for as source material, and a coffee-shop conversation." As stated earlier, the injunction is just the first ruling in the ongoing suit. There are still issues concerning the creators receiving fair compensation for their creation. In a previous interview, Paquette told C2F that he and Hudnall were only collecting $625 apiece for each episode of the show. Paquette told us that he expects the suit to continue for "a hell-of-a long time, primarily because I've got no intention of giving up." "I don't like dishonesty in any form," Paquette assures us, "and I am perfectly willing to sacrifice money for that principal."
~MarciaH #53
Well, I found this, but would love to hear from anyone seeing the episodes which were aired. http://www.zealot.com/news/archives/200003/20000302.html Harsh Realm Is Still Cancelled The creators of Harsh Realm have won their case! Writer James Hudnall and artist Andrew Paquette have won their lawsuit against Fox and Chris Carter over creator credits on Harsh Realm. Carter created it, it ran 3 episodes, then it was unceremoniously yanked from the air by Fox. The credits will now read " INSPIRED BY THE COMIC SERIES 'HARSH REALM' CREATED BY JAMES D. HUDNALL AND ANDREW PAQUETTE, PUBLISHED BY HARRIS COMICS" after the "Written By" screen in the opening credits. Six episodes that no one has seen yet, in addition to the original three (for you math majors out there, that's nine total) will be shown on FX, Fox's cable channel. Fox will have to redo the credits on those shows. The score now reads Little Guy 1, Big Networks something like 2 zillion.
~sprin5 #54
I kind of liked this sci fi show, and I wished they had kept it going. It kind of had a road warrior quality to it.
~MarciaH #55
~MarciaH #56
I know the brother of one of the injured parties. What ever happened to protecting intellectual property?! I wish them luck - $600-something is not adequate compensation per episode. I would also like to see it succeed. Interesting websites for Harsh Realm out there. http://www.harshrealm.com
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