Odds & Ends - Part 6

Wow, didn't notice I closed out the last chapter.... Did anyone see this? People Picks Ben Affleck As Sexiest "I didn't need People magazine to tell me he's the sexiest man alive," Lopez said in the issue, which comes out Friday. "The difference between me and People magazine is that he'll still be the sexiest man alive in my eyes when he's 100 years old." Yeah because she'll have dumped him looooong before then and she'll only have memories of when he was younger to refer to. I really do hope they are happy and will last, but.....

People Picks Ben Affleck As Sexiest What? The guy is undeniably cute, but the sexiest?! No way! Of course, you know who has my vote! (Dorine) Yeah because she'll have dumped him looooong before then Now, now. Just because J-Lo has the marital attention span of a gerbil...

People Picks Ben Affleck As Sexiest And have you seen his ghetto tattoe? Those two have great PR people. (Dorine), They go hand in hand to me. Interesting. A cute couple vs a good couple. Cary Grant had great chemistry with many of his leading ladies, same for Ralph Fiennes. Even Andy McDowell and Gerard Depardieu had it in "Green Card." *** Changing the subject. From the weirdo dept: BERLIN (Nov. 20) - Michael Jackson said he made a ''terrible mistake'' by holding his infant son over the railing of a fourth-floor balcony at a Berlin hotel to show fans below but shocking many people who watched the scene captured on video. Television around the world repeatedly broadcast footage of the reclusive pop star's brief appearance Tuesday at the Hotel Adlon across from Berlin's landmark Brandenburg Gate. The boy had a white cloth over his head as Jackson held him with one arm around his waist over the edge of the hotel's iron balcony railing. Fans cheered as Jackson appeared with the child, but the pop star quickly retreated into his hotel room. The child, wearing a baby blue jumper, was the singer's third and youngest, Prince Michael II, said Antje Sigesmund, a spokeswoman for the Bambi entertainment award ceremony, which Jackson is attending in Berlin. On Tuesday night, Jackson issued a statement saying he had gotten carried away when fans below the window asked to see the baby. ''I made a terrible mistake,'' he said. ''I got caught up in the excitement of the moment. I would never intentionally endanger the lives of my children.'' European media scolded Jackson for the incident, with Berlin's BZ daily calling his behavior ''foolish.'' Sweden's Expressen headlined its story ''Jackson plays with the baby's life.'' In Britain, Jackson was chastised in The Sun tabloid under the headline ''You lunatic'' and in the Daily Mirror as ''Mad bad dad.'' ''The Berlin police should arrest this negligent father for reckless endangerment of his own child,'' said an editorial by Mirror show business editor Kevin O'Sullivan. Berlin prosecutors said they were not investigating the incident, although an inquiry could be opened if a complaint was filed. Promoters of Thursday's Bambi ceremony, during which Jackson will receive a lifetime achievement award, played down the flap. ''Some people obviously found it strange, but that's why Michael Jackson has given an explanation for the incident,'' said Patricia Riekel, editor of celebrity magazine Bunte and a board member at publisher Burda, which organizes the Bambis. ''I thought it was a very spontaneous action and he loves children. I don't think it was dangerous,'' Riekel said at a news conference on the awards. On Wednesday, teenage fans still crowded the pavement in front of the luxury hotel, hoping to glimpse Jackson and breaking into intermittent screams of excitement even though Jackson was nowhere in sight. ''It was rather bizarre, what he did,'' said 17-year-old Joerg Diestel of Berlin. ''But Michael's a bizarre person.'' Maria Hunyadi, 15, from Budapest, Hungary, said, ''I thought it was dangerous, but he probably did it spontaneously.'' Uta Nierlein, a 16-year-old fan from Berlin, said, ''If I had a child I wouldn't hang him out of the window like that.'' The Chicago-based advocacy group Prevent Child Abuse America criticized Jackson's behavior, though it said the boy did not appear to be harmed. ''It is a painful reminder that even the most well-intentioned among us sometimes act in ways that put children in danger of being abused or neglected,'' said A. Sidney Johnson, president and CEO of the group. Little is known about Prince Michael II. People Magazine reported in August that he was six months old. The magazine, citing an anonymous friend, said the boy was not adopted and did not identify the mother. The singer also has two children with ex-wife Debbie Rowe: a 5-year-old boy - also named Prince Michael - and a 4-year-old girl, Paris. The couple divorced in 1999.

(Dorine) Did anyone see this? How can you miss it? When my browser opens to Netscape, there it is, large as life. Sexiest? To whom? (Moon) and Gerard Depardieu had it in "Green Card." gagging, puh-leeez!! :-(

(Moon) and Gerard Depardieu had it in "Green Card." (Karen),gagging, puh-leeez!! :-( Exactly! Not what you'd expect but it was there.

(Moon) and Gerard Depardieu had it in "Green Card." (Karen),gagging, puh-leeez!! :-( (Moon) Exactly! Not what you'd expect but it was there. Amazingly true. I agree. (Karen) How can you miss it? When my browser opens to Netscape, there it is, large as life. Sexiest? To whom? Am thanking God for a different browser. Don't get me wrong, he's a darned good looking guy. Don't think he won the personality lottery, though. ;-) And I am getting overloaded on these 2. I was at a Q&A event with the speaker being someone who is very familiar with BA. This person related how lovey dovey they were and said to Ben that things seemed good and he'd better not cheat on her. I said somewhat under my breath that he's probably not the one to worry about. A few people around me seemed amused. Again I wish them the best of luck. They will need it.

(KathyF)Just because J-Lo has the marital attention span of a gerbil... Very good one Kathy. I can't figure out if these people are bizarre before they become famous, or if they lose all common sense and reasoning after the fact. Interesting, really for as many *famous* people as there are, it seems to be the same ones who pop up over and over again in the headlines with behaviour that stuns and amazes. The greater percentage you don't hear about. Like our AFG boy! Now, does that mean the ones that avoid tabloid publicity are *normal* or just smart enough to stay out of the headlines? And, What about that Michael Jackson? How can you even speculate on a recluse whose nose is falling off after repeated attempts to try and become Diana Ross's twin sister, names his ranch Neverland, has three children with all the appearance of very light skin in contrast to his own genes, has chosen to name his two sons Prince Michael and Prince Michael II(choke choke, sorry I'm gagging here), and now hangs the young prince over a balcony four stories high! IMO, the guy is round the twist, off his rocker, cuckoo, screwy in the extreme, and ready for a stay in the loony bin. But, there is a business oppotunity here for an ingenius enterprenuer. He has three children whose heads are covered when out in public. Surely someone can design *something* more appropriate than those silly white towels he has to use. Some kind of hood with breathing holes? Come on all you creative seamstresses!

(Lisa) Now, does that mean the ones that avoid tabloid publicity are *normal* or just smart enough to stay out of the headlines? Sometimes both ;-)

(Lisa) has chosen to name his two sons Prince Michael and Prince Michael II(choke choke, sorry I'm gagging here), Aren't something like 5 of George Foreman's kids named George? Did anyone see those closeups of MJ while testifying in court the other day? His nose, Louisa! Looked like someone had put putty on parts of it to fill in the gaps. Ew!

Is it just me having trouble getting in at spring.net or is everyone else having the same problem?

Ok, was going to post this in FF but thought it was too funny and might be seen by more people here.......

I'll tell you what, along the lines of on-screen chemistry, I really did not like the film Notting Hill. Why, you ask? Because I was not convinced that JR and HG really had the hots for each other. They didn't fit, IMO. No chemistry. However, talking about another Gnat role, I loved Fours Weddings and a Funeral. Of course *every* actor in the film was excellent in their parts, but I believed the attraction between HG and AMcD. Andie was at her least-wooden best in this film. (I can't remember Green Card, to long ago.) Although I often wonder the motivation of her taking him to try on that Bo Peep wedding dress.

Love the sign Freddie. Thanks. I like SB. I thought HG and SB appeared pretty chummy at Oscars. Didn't notice any animosity. But who knows what's happend since. Liked Sleeping and Congeniality too. IMO I don't see JR having any chemistry with her leading men either. Is she still married? IMO Jackson has lost it. Hanging his child over a railing, suing a record company because his effort wasn't a success. Sour grapes IMO. Maybe he senses the end is near. Even "Bizar" people have to take responsibility for what they do or don't do. Wasn't impressed with the concert taped right before 9/11 either. People chose Affleck as the Sexiest Man of the Year or was he one of several. He isn't in the same league as Colin IMO, never even has a chance of being there. And I believe last year's choice was PB. Is there even the remotest comparison here. Was the pool limited this year? He's ok, but the Sexiest anything, I don't think so. Did anyone see Leno last night? He did a cute joke about JLO and BA engagement. He showed a card with the front as an Invitation to their Wedding and the back a Thank you card for the wedding gift to her wedding with Chris. Funny stuff. Just saw an ad for a McCartney concert next Wednesday night at I believe 10:00 on ABC. Should be good.

(Lisa) I'll tell you what, along the lines of on-screen chemistry, I really did not like the film Notting Hill. Why, you ask? Because I was not convinced that JR and HG really had the hots for each other. They didn't fit, IMO. No chemistry. Lisa, I thought I was the only one who felt this way about Notting Hill. Glad to know I'm not! I agree with you about 4WaaF, too - liked it, and believed the HG/AMcD chemistry. On the 2 Weeks Notice trailer - I thought it was pretty anemic. It may not be possible to truly judge chemistry from something that short; however, I noticed nothing in the trailer that struck me as romantic or funny. Given that I assume it's a romantic comedy, that would seem to indicate a problem.

(Lisa) How can you even speculate on a recluse whose nose is falling off after repeated attempts to try and become Diana Ross's twin sister (Dorine) His nose, Louisa! Looked like someone had put putty on parts of it to fill in the gaps. Ew! ROTFLOL! Excellent comments, and so true! I remember when MJ was black and had a nose. He was absolutely adorable. I understand he has a skin condition, but there was no reason for disfiguring himself through plastic surgery. The Jacksons who have opted to keep their own features look much better than MJ and LaToya, IMO.

Quite frankly, I'm astounded that BA has been chosen as sexiest alive. I realize that Daredevil is going to be released soon, but the new Bond film is about to be released as well, and PB would have been a much more logical choice (although CF is my personal favorite). He's cute, but sexy?? No way. Love the J-Lo gerbil comment! I actually used to like her when she was *just* an actress. Now, she just gets on my nerves. MJ--what can I say? At best, very poor judgement on his part. *Shiver* How are these three children going to turn out with that *person* raising them?

(Jeanie) People chose Affleck as the Sexiest Man of the Year. And I believe last year's choice was PB. Was the pool limited this year? (Moonstar) I'm astounded that BA has been chosen as sexiest alive. I realize that Daredevil is going to be released soon, but the new Bond film is about to be released as well, and PB would have been a much more logical choice. Yeah, limited to who had a project coming out in the very near future. They don't repeat the Sexiest Guy I believe. Maybe once if at all. Now I'm curious if once you've been on the inside, like Colin has, does that preclude you from getting a cover later.

People Picks Ben Affleck As Sexiest I don't see it...I really don't think much of him as an actor either..IMO he was the weakest link in SIL. (FanPam) I like SB. I like her too, very down to earth. Good in the "chick flick" genre.

(FanPam) IMO Jackson has lost it. I used to feel bad because I thought someone close to him needed to get him some help....now I'm just scared for his children (and I'm still waiting for the blood work to prove they are even his kids...sorry, I've just thought that for a long time)! To be raised in that environment cannot be healthy. People Picks Ben Affleck As Sexiest Man of the Year Not by a long shot!!! Sexy? The guy in Dogma? Mall Rats? Cute, maybe, but not sexy.

(Dorine), I'm curious if once you've been on the inside, like Colin has, does that preclude you from getting a cover later. I don't think it ever stopped Brad Pitt. I still think it is all a matter of who has the best PR agent, as long as he works all the time and BA is everywhere.

People Picks Ben Affleck As Sexiest Man of the Year And Hugh Grant is Sexiest Import. Huh? I like HG a lot but don't ever think of him as desirable. And talking about Notting Hill, I'm sure this is very old news but I read recently that that story was based on the true-life adventures of Madonna. Apparently she hooked up with a commoner for a short time and Hugh told Richard Curtis, who then made NH. As for Jackson's who haven't had surgery, I think Tito might be the only one left. Seriously. Has anyone seen the new Clooney movie yet? I can't believe the fuss made about his butt. Especially after seeing the Jeremy Northam movie which I believe was for British TV, where he was running around for all to enjoy! I don't know how GC keeps from yelling at these silly entertainment reporters who cannot talk about anything else.

(Brenda) As for Jackson's who haven't had surgery, I think Tito might be the only one left. Seriously. Really? I'm by no means an expert on things Jackson, but I saw a picture of all of them not too long ago, and it appeared that Tito, Marlon and Jermaine (sp?) still had their original noses. Although it had been a long time since I'd seen them, so I might have forgotten what the originals looked like. Especially after seeing the Jeremy Northam movie which I believe was for British TV, where he was running around for all to enjoy! Oooh, that sounds tasty! What was the name of it?

(Rika)Lisa, I thought I was the only one who felt this way about Notting Hill. Glad to know I'm not! I agree with you about 4WaaF, too - liked it, and believed the HG/AMcD chemistry. No, count me in there too. NH left me cold. 4WaaF I've watched several times and really enjoyed it.

(Brenda)Has anyone seen the new Clooney movie yet? I can't believe the fuss made about his butt. Solaris? It's all about publicity and money. Has nothing to do with prudishness; it never does. The film is now on the tip of everyone's tongue--pretty clever, I'd say, for a cerebral story. And the lower-teen friendly rating widens the potential audience/box office appreciably. Ebert & Roeper gave it 2 thumbs up and there are raves in Rolling Stone and in Dave Poland's column. That's all I've seen as far as reviews go. I think it opens end of month. BTW . . .I love George Clooney!!! Had to get that out of my system, lol.:-) Re: Affleck as People's sexiest. For what it's worth, I saw him about a month ago when they were filming scenes from Jersey Girl at the Hardrock Cafe next door to my office. He is tall! Like, at least 6'3". Buzz among the crew and crowd was how nice he was, signing autographs, kissing babies, very accommodating and easy to work with. He doesn't get my sexy vote, but is a cute younger brother type. And if I were big sis, I'd tell him not to marry "that woman.";-)

(KathyF)Oooh, that sounds tasty! What was the name of it? Fatal Inversion. It's a Ruth Rendell movie. Now why didn't Colin do this one? http://us.imdb.com/Title?0102126 ...it appeared that Tito, Marlon and Jermaine (sp?) still had their original noses I forgot about Marlon, but I'm pretty sure Jermaine was one of the first to get the nose job. Harder to tell with him. (Mari)Solaris? It's all about publicity and money. Has nothing to do with prudishness; it never does. I saw one interview where GC said the controversy was manufactured by people trying to sell the movie. What bothers me is the immaturity in the questions asked from shows like Access Hollywood. It makes me cringe when everyone at the premiere is asked what George's butt is like. What's the correct answer for that anyhow? :-) I give a lot of credit to GC for the way he handles the press.

(Mari), I love George Clooney!!! Had to get that out of my system, lol.:-) I stand with you sistah! And Jeremy Northam too. :-D Now if only he would buy a house on Lake Como. ;-)

(Brenda)Has anyone seen the new Clooney movie yet? I can't believe the fuss made about his butt. (Mari) Solaris? It's all about publicity and money. Has nothing to do with prudishness; it never does. The film is now on the tip of everyone's tongue--pretty clever, I'd say, for a cerebral story Yes, the butt story is a brilliant PR move. Exactly what I thought when I heard of the rating board being prudish. Up til now, there was little to no attention on it that I know of, and on AICN a couple of people posted reviews that while the movie was confusing (and the authors liked it for the most part), apparently *many* people got up and left in the middle. *Plus*...they will be getting his name out there now in prep for the PR for his directing debut in Confessions of a Dangerous Mind next month. (Mari)I love George Clooney!!! Had to get that out of my system, lol.:-) Me, too! (Brenda) What bothers me is the immaturity in the questions asked from shows like Access Hollywood. It makes me cringe when everyone at the premiere is asked what George's butt is like. I give a lot of credit to GC for the way he handles the press. Was thinking that last night watching E! News Live. Did anyone see that *dizzy* blonde talk to him? And then went up to pose by the poster to look like he was kissing her? Yuch! Too much. BTW Brenda, I had already typed my stuff about the controversy as PR and after saw your comments of same. Didn't mean to be redundant. :-)

geez

I'll go out and come in again....(anyone Monty Python Spanish Inquisition fans?

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!

As I recall, they made repeated appearances at one of Eileen's bday parties a couple...oh 3 years ago.

Me too: on George Clooney, Ben Affleck , only because he and Gwynnie worked so hard to put SIL over the top. Without them it would have been DOA. Jeremy Northam...any ole time Rafe, because he takes risks on everything he does. Failure (The Avengers) doesn't daunt him. He puts it behind him,...keeps plugging. And he loves the theatre ... doesn't just talk about it.

I don't know if this was posted somewhere else: Katie Couric will have Helen Fielding Tuesday on her book club thing with a guy. Just saw an ad for it, don't know anything else about it...

Thanks Odile for heads up on Helen Fielding. Will definitely watch. Hope you are ok. Was in error last night. McCartney concert Wednesday Nov. 27. 9:00 pm est. ABC for those interested.

Jeremy Northam was interviewed on PBS "Fresh Air" today, BTW, heard it in the car. I don't think this was a rerun, since they asked him about the Dean Martin role that's airing here on Sunday night. He called the Hamlet understudy incident one of the most terrifying moments of his life! Worth looking for if it's out online anywhere. (Wonder why this didn't post on the first try! Odd.)

I'm wondering if Vegas will be odds on how long this 'marriage' will last btw J.Lo and Affleck???? She seems to go through men like I go through money (and that is NOT a good thing!). Anyhoo, just hope they don't get married here in Boston, MA (or anywhere in MA). Hate seeing all those satellite antennaes in the air!

(Elizabeth) (Wonder why this didn't post on the first try! Odd.) Maybe because it knew it wanted to be posted on Topic 43? Bwahahahahahha!! ;-)

Anyone planning on seeing Bond, James Bond? I hadn't but then saw a vague preview of a Rowan Atkinson short called, maybe, Johnny English. It may be showing before DAD so, if it does, please let us know. I'm just going to movies now for the preview stuff :-) Trailers and shorts! Jeremy may be on Caroline Rhea today. He hasn't showed up yet but my TV guide keeps promising.

Please check Topic 43 for Jeremy Northam news: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/43/new

preview of a Rowan Atkinson short called, maybe, Johnny English. Saw it with HP. It looked funny. My kids like Mr. Bean. Might be taking them to Bond today. I haven't decided. ;-)

(Dorine) I give a lot of credit to GC for the way he handles the press. Was thinking that last night watching E! News Live. Did anyone see that *dizzy* blonde talk to him? And then went up to pose by the poster to look like he was kissing her? Sounds like he's getting some good prep work if GC's rumored role as Bridget's interview subject in the EOR comes true. :-D

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again. Sorry, oh "Goddess of All Things Colinary", I just couldn't resist. I'll go now.. (slinking off to the peanut gallery with a pouty face)

Bring out the comfy chair!

No more!

(Laura) She seems to go through men like I go through money (and that is NOT a good thing!). LOL I agree 100% Great pics Karen with oh so funny memories. Thanks.

I have just watched the first episode of Daniel Deronda, featuring Hugh Bonneville. My DH was reading the newspaper, but glanced up when he heard what he believed to be a familiar voice, and said, 'Not HIM again'. He thought I was watching one of my many CF tapes/DVDs! I have heard it mentioned before that they have similar voices. (In fact, HB mentioned in an interview some time ago, that someone mistook him for ODB in the street)!! Now, there MAY be a similarity in the voice, but that's as far as it goes, IMHO!

Yeah, I sure don't see any physical resemblance! I haven't seen him in that many things so I can't recall what his voice sounds like.

Re: J-lo: Chut chut, ladies! Although letters to the editor (of People Mag etc.) do not have the power to influence journalistic endeavors they once did. Enclosing a better photo (eg. the quilt photo of JN) is useless. It seems that the "fanzines", ex. Starburst, display a photo along with a fan's well-written, well-argued letter. Their choice of photo, that is, which is often very funny. :) In other news, yes, an evening out on the town with JN would be worth polishing the long-forgotten dancing skills. I admire a guy who cooks, fish. Secrecy, surprise, and ruthless efficiency! Those are our three weapons. ;)

Keep those clooney comments coming, I'm all ears Ladies, and we get so little coverage (unlike his butt:-)

...... on this side of the pond I mean!

With those liquid-black, puppy-dog eyes . . . you'd think GC'd have a UK fanclub to compete with Mr. Firth's! (ducking the cuflinks thrown by CF fans). I hear you, a Rickmanfan on the Western side of the pond.

(Brenda)I saw one interview where GC said the controversy was manufactured by people trying to sell the movie. . . I give a lot of credit to GC for the way he handles the press. Did he really? Good for him--there's no b.s. about George! But he's *always* nice about it.:-) What bothers me is the immaturity in the questions asked from shows like Access Hollywood. They are painful to watch, aren't they? I tuned in this past week to see if they'd have the full WAGW trailer on (they didn't). But J.Lo is on every single day, no exaggeration. What a publicity machine that girl has. I actually think she has talent, but this overexposure is turning me way off. (Moon)I stand with you sistah! And Jeremy Northam too. :-D Now if only he would buy a house on Lake Como. ;-) LOL, I *told* you I'd wind up being the only one Como-less.;-) Excellent taste, Moon. CF, GC, and JN are my ultimate love triangle. Sigh . . . (Lizza)we get so little coverage (unlike his butt:-) Hee hee. Am hoping Soderbergh restores the sex scene snips (ouch!;-) when the DVD comes out!:-)

Don't forget ladies JN is on Channel 2 tonight at 9:00 as Dean Martin. Getting good reviews from what I hear. Enjoy.

At the risk that this should be posted at a book forum, due to it's relation to Droolable topics and the likelihood of finding interested parties, I'm putting it here... People Magazine book review of their "Page-turner of the week": Jane Austen in Boca by Paula Marantz Cohen reviewed by Bella Stander "It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife," wrote Jane Austen in the classic opening of Pride and Prejudice. Austen never schmoozed by the pool with a pack of bronzed yentas, but her Pride plot proves as durable as ever, even after being transplanted to Cohen's "surreal nirvana" of a Florida retirement community. In this witty romp, widowed Jewish women and their extended kin fill in for the country families in Pride. Instead of silly Mrs. Bennet pushing daughter Jane at wealthy Mr. Bingley, suburban New Jersey supermom Carol Newman sets up her mother-in-law in Boca Raton with a retired leather importer. Breaking with Austen's storyline, Cohen has fun with the "group therapy session" in the communal changing room at Loehmann's, death by Viagra and a too-tan septuagenarian spearing a "cocktail shrimp the size of a tennis ball" at a Valentine's Day dance. (St. Martin's, $24.95) BOTTOM LINE: What's not to like? ************************** This is one I'll watch for.

(re: Jane Austen in Boca I will definitely have to read this as I grew up near that area and know Boca people *quite* well. Thanks so much, Barb!

(Janet) I have just watched the first episode of Daniel Deronda, featuring Hugh Bonneville. My DH was reading the newspaper, but glanced up when he heard what he believed to be a familiar voice, and said, 'Not HIM again'. He thought I was watching one of my many CF tapes/DVDs! I have heard it mentioned before that they have similar voices. (In fact, HB mentioned in an interview some time ago, that someone mistook him for ODB in the street)!! Saw this in an article about Daniel Deronda on the Guardian web site: The advice for any actor auditioning for an Andrew Davies-scripted production must be to look for the bastard, for that's where the best part is to be found. Deronda is rumoured to be illegitimate, but he is clearly no bastard. Grandcourt is, though, and Hugh Bonneville, so often allocated the role of the bumbling fool, now takes his revenge as a cold dish. His performance is a highly entertaining homage to Colin Firth's Mr Darcy at his most handsomely imperious. Although amusing, this kind of inter-canon reference does little to counter the criticism, however unfair, that Andrew Davies's costume dramas all seem alike. URL for the full article: http://www.observer.co.uk/review/story/0,6903,846054,00.html

does little to counter the criticism, however unfair, that Andrew Davies's costume dramas all seem alike. That is such a two edged comment. What criticism? Why imply criticism and then say that to do so is unfair? HB's perfprmance was terrific IMHO and did not remind me in the least of CF's Darcy. Grandcourt is nothing like Darcy. Do these commentators ever watch these plays? And if they do, do they understand what they are watching grrrrrr. Just an early morning rant; am enjoying DD which I have never read so am all anticipation for the next instalment.

I guess Demme needs to be hit on the head harder. Sheesh! Won't this guy ever learn not to remake "classic" films. Demme Vies for 'Candidate' Remake By Michael Fleming Filmmaker Jonathan Demme, coming off box office disappointment "The Truth About Charlie," is negotiating to direct Denzel Washington (news) in the remake of "The Manchurian Candidate." Production will begin next fall. Both Demme and Washington sparked to a strong script by Daniel Pyne ("The Sum of All Fears"), who was able to make believable the film's premise about soldiers who return from war unable to remember their heroic exploits because they've been brainwashed to commit murder. In the 1962 original, which was directed by John Frankenheimer, the soldiers returned from the Korean War rewired by communists to assassinate the president of the United States. Its star, Frank Sinatra, was so devastated by the subsequent assassination of President Kennedy that he bought control of the film's rights and kept "Manchurian Candidate" out of circulation for many years. Later, he gave his daughter Nancy permission to pursue a remake. She will produce the film at Paramount with Scott Rudin. [Ed note: Shame on her]

(Mari)CF, GC, and JN are my ultimate love triangle. Ditto: Will add, RF and Stephen Dillane.

From Ananova: Mendes bows out with best director award Director Sam Mendes's swansong season at London's Donmar Warehouse has earned him one of the most prestigious awards in British theatre. He was named Best Director at the Evening Standard Theatre Awards for his farewell productions of Twelfth Night and Uncle Vanya. Gwyneth Paltrow had been nominated for Best Actress for her West End debut in Proof at the Donmar, which earned rave reviews. But the Hollywood actress lost out to relative unknown Clare Higgins for her role in Vincent In Brixton. The stage version of The Full Monty beat Andrew Lloyd Webber's Bollywood extravaganza Bombay Dreams to the title of Best Musical, while the Best Play award went to Caryl Churchill's A Number. Jake Gyllenhaal was named Outstanding Newcomer for his role in This Is Our Youth, in which he played alongside Star Wars actor Hayden Christensen. The full list of winners is: Best Actor - Simon Russell Beale for Vanya in Uncle Vanya and Malvolio in Twelfth Night Best Actress - Clare Higgins for Ursula Loyer in Vincent In Brixton The Carlton Television Award for Best Musical - The Full Monty The Sydney Edwards Award for Best Director - Sam Mendes for Uncle Vanya and Twelfth Night Best Stage Designer - Ian MacNeil for A Number and Plasticine The Charles Wintour Award for Most Promising Playwright - Vassily Sigarev for Plasticine Outstanding Newcomer - Jake Gyllenhaal for This Is Our Youth Special Award - The Globe Season of Cupid and Psyche 2002. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lucky NYers, aren't the two Donmar plays (and full casts) coming to BAM (Brooklyn) in a few months?

while the Best Play award went to Caryl Churchill's A Number. Pfft. No one even heard of that one... Big shut-out for Stoppard's Coast of Utopia triology .Bummer The critics must not have brought cushions for their tushes. Best Actor - Simon Russell Beale for Vanya in Uncle Vanya and Malvolio in Twelfth Night The guy must be running out room for his awards. Ho, hum. thanks Karen.

You crack me up, Evelyn! LOL! Gwyneth Paltrow had been nominated for Best Actress for her West End debut in Proof at the Donmar, which earned rave reviews. But the Hollywood actress lost out to relative unknown Clare Higgins for her role in Vincent In Brixton. I smell sour grapes. I bet the British hate the fact that she keeps getting parts that they feel should go to British actresses. Everyone knows that Proof is a tour-de-force. Shame on them.

(Moon Dreams)But the Hollywood actress lost out to relative unknown Clare Higgins for her role in Vincent In Brixton Could it not be simply, that in the judges opinion, hers was the better performance?

(Evelyn)Ditto: Will add, RF and Stephen Dillane Ralph is waiting in the wings for me, and could be elevated to love triangle status should any of the current occupants (continue to) stumble.;-) The Maid in Manhattan commericals look cute, and he is darn adorable in them! A light change of pace for him (as opposed to people who make a steady diet of such.;-) I like his American roles, e.g., Quiz Show, Red Dragon. Stephen D. is an outstanding actor--but sadly doesn't do anything for me in the department of l'amour. And I am just shallow enough that that matters.;-)

(Janet), Could it not be simply, that in the judges opinion, hers was the better performance? You think that if it makes you happy. ;-)

(Mari), Ralph is waiting in the wings for me, and could be elevated to love triangle status should any of the current occupants (continue to) stumble.;-) I agree. I don't usually go for blonds. Stephen D. is an outstanding actor--but sadly doesn't do anything for me in the department of l'amour. And I am just shallow enough that that matters.;-) LOL! We seem to agree here too.

(Janet) Could it not be simply, that in the judges opinion, hers was the better performance? LOL. Nevah!! Janet, you just have to get used to us...no malice intended. But we just get fed up with the Brit press for not giving American stars their due. In this case, it's because they object to a screen actress taking a stage role...and an American screen actress..[in Lizzie mode] "Heaven forbid". The West End is a pretty closed shop. Proof was a Pulitzer prize winner in the US.And Gwynnie got rave reviews at the Donmar.. Enough of my mini-rant. It only happens once a year, honestly. Usually around theatre awards time. (Mari) Stephen D. is an outstanding actor--but sadly doesn't do anything for me in the department of l'amour LOL.Not as Karenin , for sure. Check out "Firelight".

Check out "Firelight". LOL! You're saying that because we get to see him naked. ;-) (Evelyn), Janet, you just have to get used to us...no malice intended. Rule #1 Don't trust judges.

Check out "Firelight". LOL! You're saying that because we get to see him naked. ;-) ROTF. Helps:-)))Even though it's a bit blurry. Go topic to #43 for the news on the Martin & Lewis special last night...with Mr Knightly! Topped the Sunday night ratings !!Way t'go Jeremy.

(Janet) Could it not be simply, that in the judges opinion, hers was the better performance? Always a possibility and, since we saw neither performance, I couldn't characterize the victory and its merits. BTW, as I recall, the Evening Standard's Drama Awards are rather strangely done. A group of people get together and try to reach consensus or beat up the weakest members. Something like that. ;-)

Outstanding Newcomer - Jake Gyllenhaal for This Is Our Youth Very pleased to see this; once I saw Donnie Darko, I put him on my "one-to-watch" list (even tho he was Bubble Boy :( lol). (Evelyn), Janet, you just have to get used to us...no malice intended. We are a rather cynical bunch :)

(Mari)CF, GC, and JN are my ultimate love triangle. I'm right there with the first two and the third tends to fluctuate. (Mari), Ralph is waiting in the wings for me, and could be elevated to love triangle status should any of the current occupants (continue to) stumble.;-) (Moon)I agree. I don't usually go for blonds. (Mari)Stephen D. is an outstanding actor--but sadly doesn't do anything for me in the department of l'amour. And I am just shallow enough that that matters. ;-) (Moon)LOL! We seem to agree here too. And I agree on both counts as well! Since GC keeps popping up here lately (pun wasn't intended...unless someone found it funny ;-)....... I wanted to mention I saw Solaris yesterday. Two things.... 1. If you really want to see it, it should be seen on a big screen at least once IMO, and 2. You have to stick with it through the first half. If you didn't like 2001: Space Odyssey, you won't like this. Pacing is very similar. The themes don't really start to emerge til at least the halfway mark. I actually want to see it again (on DVD) to review the first half and see what I may have not picked up on the first time around. I applaud GC for doing something very different for him. No real intended humor, but a few places for small chuckles. Also, Jeremy Davies was v. good as well. GC and NM make a nice looking couple. And to address the question on the minds of a few of you....*wow*, that is some bod he has. One shot from the back was from far away and quiet shaded...but you could tell. And the other was when he and NM were laying on their stomachs on the bed with no covers, full side shot. Colin might do well to use his trainer than...what was that guy's name? Although in all fairness, I believe they have very different body types. Colin seems taller and lankier. Maybe GC puts on muscle easier as he seems shorter and stockier(?) by comparison.

Check out "Firelight". Oh, I love that one! But he still doesn't float my boat . . . *wow*, that is some bod he has. One shot from the back was from far away and quiet shaded...but you could tell. And the other was when he and NM were laying on their stomachs on the bed with no covers, full side shot. Dorine, you're killin' me here!! Thanks for the preview; my, um, appetite has been duly whetted.;-)

Thanks Dorine for headsup on Solaris and GC. Saw him interviewed by Katy this morning. Have to say he is a fine specimen. Even at that hour as he commented it was early for him. Katy remarked that people thought this should be an "Art House" film. He replied, "I wouldn't be so hasty in putting it on the Art House trash heap yet." Just thought that was an interesting comment. Is this an indication that actors consider Art House as trash. Please help me out here Karen and Evelyn. Thanks.

Is this an indication that actors consider Art House as trash. Please help me out here Karen and Evelyn. Will I do?;-) I saw the interview too, Pam, and from the context, it was clear to me that he was commenting on her statement that "the industry" didn't expect Solaris to do well at the box office. His reply was about not throwing in the towel on the box office prospects, not intended as a knock on art house films. He said that he wasn't willing to concede box office defeat just because a film was challenging.

Plus, I think with the name of Steven Soderburgh behind it should garner some attention! Besides, it has such a beautiful cast! :)

(Mari) Will I do?;-) Of course. Thank you. I just took offense at "Art House" being considered trash as I personally don't feel that way. Thank you for intepretation. Didn't he look good? The more I see him I can envision the Bridget interview. I agree, he shouldn't concede box office defeat under any circumstances. A movie that actually requires thought process while viewing is an innovation now-a-days. Too few of them in my opinion.

George Clooney is on Letterman tonight.

(Pam) Please help me out here Karen and Evelyn. (Mari) Will I do ;-) If you leave off names, and not address your comments specifically to people, it keeps the board open. That is why we put people's names in parens. It means you are responding to a comment they made, not addressing them. It is a subtle difference but effective.

Flying home in a few hours, just wanted to wish all those that celebrate a happy and safe Thanksgiving. I will miss this place the next few days! My best to you all!

A Very Odds and Ends Post: (Evelyn re A Number) "Pfft. No one even heard of that one..." Now Ev, just a darn minute here. We too few Craig admirers must have our say -- Great play (I've listened to it on audio) - Less than an hour long - rave reviews all over the Brit press -- AND it stars Michael Gambon and Daniel Craig. They are hoping to bring it to Broadway. ***************************************** Nice words for Clooney in today's NY Times review of Solaris: "Whether gazing darkly over the ocean from a captain's perch in "The Perfect Storm" or contemplating the viscous, shape-shifting reality of a mysterious planet from a space station in his new movie "Solaris," George Clooney projects the brooding solipsism of a man's-man encased in a shell of loneliness. In the Hollywood pantheon of recycled heroes, he suggests a Clark Gable for the new millennium, without the raised eyebrow and rakish leer." ************************************** Mari - Love Triangles? I love love triangles. I agree about Ralph. Would add Clive Owen and Nicky Katt to mine. Just picturing the three of them offering me champagne and strawberries by a glowing fire gives me palpatations.

Speaking of GC, he was terrific on Letterman last night. I kept wondering if Letterman would tease him about the butt shots - but he delegated that task to Stephanie.

(Evelyn re A Number) "Pfft. No one even heard of that one..." (Murph)Now Ev, just a darn minute here. We too few Craig admirers must have our say -- Great play .. A -Ha...knew a certain Daniel Craig webmaster would chime in eventually;-))I know you will love the play when it comes to B'way:-)) (Murph)Mari - Love Triangles? I love love triangles. I agree about Ralph.. I didn't say ole Lizard Legs was in the hunk category...just a great actor whom I admire.

Happy Thanksgiving Ladies!

Happy Thanksgiving to all those who celebrate it

(Rika)Speaking of GC, he was terrific on Letterman last night. I kept wondering if Letterman would tease him about the butt shots - but he delegated that task to Stephanie. GC is a great interviewee. Good sense of humour and smart. When he was talking about his villa in Italy, I immediately thought about Bridget flying over to interview him. Hurrah! She can still go to Italy! And GC can get a bit of a vacation :-) Happy Thanksgiving to all!!

(BrendaL) When he was talking about his villa in Italy, I immediately thought about Bridget flying over to interview him. Hurrah! She can still go to Italy! I thought exactly the same thing when he said that.

As those of you who have the Drool birthday list may know, we have a birthday on Sunday, December 1. But Odile, the birthday girl, is going to be without Internet access for a few days, so we'd like to delay her party till Tuesday, December 5 so she can participate! Be there or be square - I have it on good authority that several of our favorite guys (the Darcy boys and some of their friends) are going to make an appearance!

So Lord Dashwood is able to attend then?

Last weekend I shared parts of the googie discussion with my DH. We have, over the last 16 years, made sort of a hobby of collecting these euphemisms. It all began with a parent teacher conference about our youngest son's response to the teacher's question "Where did he kick you?. Our son responded with the correct term and was throroughly chastized by his pre-school teacher. The teacher was quite offended when we found it amusing rather than very serious and suggested several other words he could have used. My son was, at that time, only three years old. Thus, the collecting began. Googie is the only really new addition in quite a while. Yesterday, he (the DH) handed me this month's Scienctific American and said quite innocently, "You may want to read the article titled Members Only." Some of you may enjoy reading it also. A link is below. http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?colID=15&articleID=0005182A-A784-1DC9-AF71809EC588EEDF

(MariH)you may enjoy reading it also I did. It's too funny. Sometimes I wonder at what these scientists come up whith. (Is that a correct sentence?)

To Karen, Lora and everyone who celebrates this holiday HAPPY HANUKKAH

Karen, for your Hanukka gift ...I am giving you.... my... and just so you can Shake, Shake *your* Booty too.... Lora, For your Hanukkah gift I'm grabbing the white tie and tails for you before anyone else does...

Was rather apprehensive, as Scientific American is not exactly our normal reading here. ;-) But that was cute. which translates to "we somehow got 104 guys to agree to drop their pants next to a tape rule." This doesn't seem like it would be so difficult to do. Stand on any street corner or L stop. ;-) Thanks, Evelyn, for the gift. I'll be taking v g care of those.

Geez, Karen that certainly IS a v.v nice Hanukkah gift!!! Happy Hanukkah!! and a belated turkey day (had quiet one with becks and nice bottle of Shiraz/Grenache) (were'nt you the one who turned me on the the Shiraz'????) ;) Love to you all!!!

Hide your eyes, Karen.... From NY TIMES: Greek Wedding Courts a Prince Named Oscar: "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," the $5 million independent film phenomenon, is being widely discussed as a significant player in the forthcoming Academy Awards race...... The Hollywood Reporter this week named "Greek Wedding" one of the most likely nominees for a Golden Globe for best comedy or musical, alongside Reese Witherspoon's "Sweet Home Alabama"; Eminem's "8 Mile"; the forthcoming "Chicago," with Ren�e Zellweger and Catherine Zeta-Jones, based on the Broadway musical; and "Analyze That," with Robert De Niro. Full article: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/28/movies/28GREE.html?8mu

Happy Hanukkah to those celebrating!!! MaryH, thank you for the very interesting article! LOL...it is so good to know that they can grow them in a petri dish! ;-D BTW, shame on that pre-school teacher for chastising your little boy (he was right and she was wrong)!

In the recent Atlantic Monthly: The lifelong problems of John F. Kennedy constitute one of the best-kept secrets of recent U.S. history -- no surprise, because if the extent of those problems had been revealed while he was alive, his presidential ambitions would likely have been dashed. Kennedy, like so many of his predecessors, was more intent on winning the presidency than on revealing himself to the public. In the Spring's politics conference there is a topic on this. What is your view? Was JFK noble or unethical to hide his medical problems from the public?

We don't have much celebrating around Thanksgiving here but I wish you, who did, had a nice day. I just spend the last hours wrapping 24 parcels for my sons Christmas-calender. By dec. 1th they have to hang on the wall, ready to be opened, one for each day until Christmas Evening. Do you do that, where you live? I'm just curious and hope it's allright to use this topic. In my imagination - were I to get something each day until Christmas - I think I would have to put my wishes on another topic (it would involve some drooling about ODB).

Here in the States, some people do put together daily calendars for their children as you describe them, but others don't. Sometimes they're referred to as Advent calendars. I like your suggestion about the daily wishes!

Run, don't walk to see Todd Haynes "Far From Heaven." Absolutely beautiful, sad and mesmerizing acting by Dennis Quaid, Julianne Moore and Dennis Haysbert. Cinematography gorgeous .... And Elmer Bernstein's score! Wow.

"Solaris" was not very good. And after what we've read about RZ's body double, we must wonder if the long shot of him naked is him. ;-)

I liked it , but I found that in the group of people in the theater that I saw it with, opinions were firmly on one side of the fence or the other. And a few people walked out. I had read about that happening at a previous screening and was not surprised to see that. As far as the long shot, I think there was a point as they turn when you can tell it's him by seeing his face at an angle. And I think it was done in one shot, so unless they digitally imposed something (butt or face) on him, then it may be him. No question in the other shot. Won't be able to check again til video is out. I thought overall it was beautifully shot, too. I also like that he took the risk to make it. But I will say if people don't like 2001:Space Odyssey, they won't like this.

Mixed feelings on Far from Heaven. I thought Julianne Moore was wonderful, as was Dennis Quaid, but Dennis Haysbert seemed all wrong to me. Frankly, I found Pleasantville a more unique film. This was seemed so self-conscious that it was re-making a 50s film, and I was fixed on certain details. At the end, I felt like screaming to the person next to me, where is her handbag???? How can she go shopping without her handbag? It didn't work 100% for me, yet the messages came across even more vividly than the color palettes used. Hmmmm, still nagging at me as to whether there were yellow phones in 1957. I suppose they did their research, but...

Too bad that Colin is probably off in Luxembourg, otherwise, he might have joined his fellow Sainsbury shopper and Amnesty Intl brethren here: http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_720026.html?menu=

OOOOOOOkay!! So much for "Solaris" and "Far From Heaven"... Roll on "Chicago"!

Roll on "Lord of the Rings"! I saw a preview of Chicago, I thought it was rather confusing. I bet they re-do it. But I will go see it. Dorine), I thought overall it was beautifully shot, too. I also like that he took the risk to make it. But I will say if people don't like 2001:Space Odyssey, they won't like this. I loved 2001. But Solaris didn't do it for me. As it happened TMC had on the original Solaris (the Russian film), last Friday night. I have to finish the tape but I did notice how some of the ship's interiors, the hallway was copied in the new one. Will report once I'm done watching it.

(Moon)I saw a preview of Chicago, I thought it was rather confusing. So was the play.But I'm going to see the stars:-D

(Moon)As it happened TMC had on the original Solaris (the Russian film), last Friday night. I saw that...but decided to watch "Nine Months" with HG and Julianne Moore. Old , but cute. *Three hours* of a Russian film with subtitles???? That's a sentence:-((

The original Solaris is going to be playing at the main arthouse next month. Think I might drag myself up there to see it, but first must see the GC version.

(Karen) Hmmmm, still nagging at me as to whether there were yellow phones in 1957. I suppose they did their research, but... Yellow phones in 1957? It doesn't really seem right, but I do remember beige, white and olive green phones around 1960, so perhaps it's possible. (Evelyn) *Three hours* of a Russian film with subtitles???? That's a sentence:-(( Subtitles require so much effort -- trying to read them and watch the action at the same time. I always end up with a headache, and the nagging suspicion I've missed half the movie. Although if I'm watching a foreign film, I'd rather put up with subtitles than have it dubbed.

If you had asked me about the telephones, I would have said white, beige, pink, blue and maybe turquoise but never yellow. I couldn't stop wondering so I went looking. Go to the first link and there's a tribute to AT&T with pics of phones in yellow, pink, mint green, olive green - circa 1954-1960, including a very bright yellow wall phone in 1956. The "Princess" phone ("It's little, it's lovely, it lights�") apparently arrived in 1958 and came in white, beige, pink, blue and turquoise. The second link has a pic of a yellow phone in someone's collection (about mid-page) and although it's not dated, it looks fairly old and is mixed in with some very old models. (Very educational, 'Odds & Ends' LOL) http://www.telephonetribute.com/tribute/the_att_telephone_story.html http://www.telephonetribute.com/tribute/photos.html

The reason I wondered is that I had a yellow phone (not a Princess) in my bedroom as a kid, but that was sometime in the sixties. We didn't get our own line until it was absolutely necessary, maybe early 60s. ;-) For some reason, I didn't think those colors (pink, turquoise, etc.) came in that early, that there would only have been black and white. In the movie, it was a yellow wall phone too.

My parents didn't believe in children having a private line. They also thought plain black was perfectly serviceable. But, when I ordered my first phone for my first apartment, it was bright red. :-)

One goof the IMdb noticed was an IBM Selectric typewriter (1971 vintage) outside Dennis's office. I thought the film spoke so well about all that had to be hidden and disguised in life during the 50's. It was telling that Clarkson's character accepted Dennis' homosexuality, but could not accept a white woman and a black man having a friendship. Going through fire made Moore's charcter much stronger. I had the feeling she would do OK after the film ended, whereas Dennis would be jilted by that youngster and live in limbo. Haysbert was a bit too noble - but maybe that was Haynes tribute to the old mixed relationship films like "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner."

(Murph) It was telling that Clarkson's character accepted Dennis' homosexuality, but could not accept a white woman and a black man having a friendship. That was the film's main point and it illustrated it very well, but overall I just wasn't all that impressed with it. IMO, it seemed rather self-conscious of it's stylistic homage. Going through fire made Moore's charcter much stronger. I thought she was a strong character all along. She was never afraid to associate with whomever she wanted and didn't care what people thought. It was only when her husband threw a fit over the rumor that she bent. Besides, at the beginning, one of the luncheon ladies (pass me a daiquiri!) mentions Cathy's liberalism in college. Red! Interestingly, when I saw the credits at the beginning and Elmer Bernstein's name, I was taken aback, assuming that he was dead and that maybe they had reused one of his older scores. And at the end, it said orchestrations were by an Eimilie (sp) Bernstein, who I assumed assisted with reworking daddy or grandfather's works. Then today I see that Elmer is being giving a Life Achievement Award. So I guess he's still alive! ;-)

So...what say you...is there Oscar material here? I've already decided to wait for the video unless it gets a nom. A pity...good dramas are so few and far between. Really, they're being dumped on the Art House circuit.Which most of the country doesn't get to see. Roll on "The Hours"....

I need to take a day or 5 off to catch up with you all on the new films! Am feeling horribly behind as I usually start my fall filmgoing in earnest by now.;-) Anyway, the fact that Murph and Karen are debating Far From Heaven's handling of serious issues and the performances of serious actors in serious roles puts it on my must-see list. Contrast with the fluff being produced in other quarters.:-( Plus, I really like Moore, Quaid and Haysbert. Have been reading raves about 2 upcoming films: Confessions of a Dangerous Mind (George Clooney's directorial debut) and Adaptation (Nic Cage, and written by Charlie Kauffman of Being John Malcovich fame).

(Mari) the fact that Murph and Karen are debating Far From Heaven's handling of serious issues and the performances of serious actors in serious roles I think we're only debating how "great" this film is. Seems we're both in agreement over the acting and that Haysbert doesn't quite fit in. My only reservation is that critics are calling this a "masterpiece" and I don't see it at all. Nothing all that original, except that neither subject matter would've been dealt with in films of that period, and I preferred Pleasantville, which was truly original in approach (stylistically and message). Julianne Moore will definitely get nommed this year, either for this or The Hours. Might be tough having two strong film performances, as has been the case with other actors before. Dennis Quaid's got a fighting chance, unless the "cram it into the last two days of the year" stuff has more than the category allows. Cate Blanchett's performance in Heaven is Oscar worthy too.

Whatever. My point was that these are films worth discussing. Anyone want to take a *very* early shot at who/what will be nommed in the major categories? I know that some of the best films and performances are just rolling into the theaters now, but just for fun. When are Golden Globe noms announced?

Good points, Karen. We do agree that the acting was top drawer. I have already ordered Elmer Bernstein's score. It was so lush and so 50's films. I loved it. All of this may be because I was a college gal in the 50's. Our attempt at being different was loving J.D. Salinger and Marlon Brando in the "Wild One!" I have Roger Ebert's review where he explains about Haynes' homage to Douglas Silk films. Here is the paragraph: ***************** "Far from Heaven" uses superb craftsmanship to make this film look and feel like a film from the 1950s. Todd Haynes says he had three specific inspirations: Douglas Sirk's "All That Heaven Allows" (1955), which starred Jane Wyman and Rock Hudson in the story of a middle-aged widow and her handsome young gardener; Sirk's "Imitation of Life" (1959), with Lana Turner as a rich woman whose maid's daughter (Susan Kohner) passed for white, and Max Ophuls' "The Reckless Moment" (1949), about blackmail. In Sirk's films you often have the feeling that part of the plot is in code; that one kind of forbidden love stands for another." ************************ Hope some others see it. It is thought-provoking - at least I thought so. Mari - Will have to get something together on nominations. I guess that "Gangs" and Daniel Day L. in a high hat and mutton chops will be one. The Hours another, (I liked the book) and good words are being written about Adaptation. (I came late to Jonz' "Being John Malkovich," but loved its quirky, crazy hunor).

(Murph)The Hours another, (I liked the book) I loved the book; will be tricky to film. Getting fantastic buzz.

(Mari) Adaptation (Nic Cage, and written by Charlie Kauffman of Being John Malcovich fame). Saw NC interviewed by Katie on Today this morning. Seems like a really interesting roll for him as he plays twins. Also with a great deal of class he denied to answer her question about his recent separation and she backed off just as graciously. Am looking forward to Chicago. I don't think it will disappoint.

Just got home and I have 2 words for you...... Chicago.........PHENOMENAL!!!! :-) (Murph)The Hours another, (I liked the book) (Evelyn) I loved the book; will be tricky to film. Getting fantastic buzz. It is excellent!

(Rika) As those of you who have the Drool birthday list may know, we have a birthday on Sunday, December 1. But Odile, the birthday girl, is going to be without Internet access for a few days, so we'd like to delay her party till Tuesday, December 5 so she can participate! Mine was today, so I'll celebrate with Odile.. feel sorry for me.. I'm officially starting down the other side of the hill.. =(

I'm confused...December 5th is Thursday, at least here in Australia! Since the day has come and gone, why don't we plan to pop in tomorrow and give them both proper birthday greetings! (I can plead ignorance, I don't have a list!)

You're right - my mistake. THURSDAY, December 5. And Jeanie, if only you'd told us sooner!!!!! But here's something for you, in honor of our Evening of Pizza and Richard Herncastle: Happy Birthday, Jeanie! I can't resist him in white tie.....

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JEANIE! Naughty girl -- you should have told us! And it's not the other side of the hill anymore. The top of the hill has officially been moved up. You have years to go before that downhill slide!

Happy Birthday to You!!! Happy Birthday Jeanie - hope you had a great day!!! And I have heard that the hill has been officially closed (until they get more snow). So you have no worries!! Stay in the lodge and have a few cocktails!!!

Even though I'm a newbie, I would like also to congratulate: Happy Birthday to you Jeanie As to the up-hill/down-hill - as long as ODB adds one year at the time as the rest of us, there is no need to worry. Where I come from, we allways say, that you are as old, as you feel - so don't worry, be happy and enjoy every day.

Happy Birthday, Jeanie!!!

Jeanie, hope you have had a great day.

Happy Birthday Jeannie!!! Jeanie, I understand the valley is even more beautiful than the hike up the hill, and you are in lots of good company!! Best Wishes!! Maria

Jeanie, you may have your Darcy SIMS, but we nearly had our Firth Hamlet... And since you brought up "topography" ;-) HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

Hope you had a wonderful birthday, Jeanie!

Jeanie...Sending along Mr. Sexy to keep you company. Happy Birthday!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JEANNIE

Well, Mr. DarcySim is coming in to say "thank you" for wishing me "happy birthday!"..

(Murph) One goof the IMdb noticed was an IBM Selectric typewriter (1971 vintage) outside Dennis's office. What about the bed? Yes, two twin beds pushed together (and their frames bolted together underneath) is realistic for the period, but not for a "film" made during this period. Twin beds, separated by a nightstand or two, is how it was usually shown. I'm pretty sure I've Sirk's "Imitation of Life" and the Jane Wyman-Rock Hudson as gardener is ringing a major bell, but I can't recall it at all. But now Haysbert makes more sense. He's very much in the Rock Hudson mold. Now, I'm curious as to how Rock played the gardener. He was never very good at playing lower, working class types. Here's an interview with Haynes that was reposted: http://www.indiewire.com/film/interviews/int_Haynes_Todd_021101.html iW: After I saw the movie, there were some people in the audience who had never seen a Sirk film and some who had. How do you see these two different audiences experiencing your movie? Haynes: I am eager to know that as anyone. In Venice, there was a very well-attended press screening and we heard afterwards it was filled with a lot of appreciative laughter. I realized in the laughter, there is some interaction with the codes that we're obviously playing with -- and ultimately embracing. And then we had the official screening and they were dead silent through the entire movie. It was weird. And then they all stood up afterwards and applauded and then Julianne won the best actress award, so it's beginning to dawn on me that for certain viewers it's possible to watch the film with absolutely no framework whatsoever and get right into the content immediately. ~~~~~~~~ The only laughter at our theater was at some of the 'dated' dialogue, especially the little boy's. The politeness and respectfulness toward the parents got laughs.

Happy Birthday, Jeanie! Don't pout about being near the "over the hill" part of your life, especially when HWM is waiting for you on the other side of the hill in this bonny glen ;-). Have a great day in the "highlands" !!!

When this film (Russian Ark) played at our FF, I couldn't get tickets, as it had sold out. It's going to be playing at one of the art houses next month and is considered a technical marvel, very unique achievement in filmmaking. http://www.indiewire.com/film/interviews/int_Buttner_Tilman_021126.html

(Jeanie) Well, Mr. DarcySim is coming in to say "thank you" for wishing me "happy birthday!".. But, Jeanie, he's dressed! I thought he liked to wear a robe.... or less.....

Jeannie and Odile, Since this is a combined Happy Birthday greeting I splurged and hired some entertainment. First, Mr. Checkerhead, the Living Checkerboard will perform tricks of dexterity! Then I found a comedian who swore he would be funny. I tested him out first on a very tough audience. He seemed to go over well with the chimp. Then I found a group who wanted to perform their favourite play for you. And sing Happy Birthday afterwards. They have considerately provided a means of translation. So, to the ladies who share birthdays with Lyle Lovett and Larry Flynt, Adam Ant and Dolph Lundgren, (sorry I couldn�t bring myself to post photos of these guys!) I say Happy Birthday��. Lisa

Winners of the National Board of Review 2002: TOP TEN FILMS OF 2002 TOP FIVE FOREIGN FILMS OF 2002 1. The Hours � Best Film 2. Chicago 3. Gangs of New York 4. The Quiet American 5. Adaptation 6. Rabbit-Proof Fence 7. The Pianist 8. Far From Heaven 9. Thirteen Conversations About One Thing 10. Frida 1. Talk to Her � Best Foreign Film 2. Y Tu Mama Tambien 3. 8 Women 4. City of God 5. El Crimen del padre Amaro Best Actor: Campbell Scott, Roger Dodger Best Actress: Julianne Moore, Far From Heaven Best Supporting Actor: Chris Cooper, Adaptation Best Supporting Actress: Kathy Bates, About Schmidt Best Acting by an Ensemble: Nicholas Nickleby Breakthrough Performance Actor: Derek Luke, Antwone Fisher Breakthrough Performance Actress: Maggie Gyllenhaal, Secretary Best Director: Phillip Noyce, The Quiet American and Rabbit- Proof Fence Best Directorial Debut: Rob Marshall, Chicago Screenwriter of the Year: Charlie Kaufman, Adaptation, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, Human Nature Best Documentary: Bowling for Columbine Best Animated Feature: Miyazaki�s Spirited Away Best Film Made for Cable TV: The Laramie Project Special Award for Visionary Cinematic Achievement: George Lucas Career Achievement: Christopher Plummer Special Filmmaking Achievement: George Clooney, Director, Producer, and Star of Confessions of a Dangerous Mind Career Achievement � Film Music Composition: Elmer Bernstein Career Achievement � Cinematography: Conrad Hall Humanitarian Award: Sheila Nevins William K. Everson Award for Film History: Annette Insdorf for her book �Indelible Shadows: Films and the Holocaust � Special Recognition of Films that Reflect the Freedom of Expression: Ararat, Bloody Sunday, The Grey Zone, Rabbit-Proof Fence Special Mention for Excellence in Filmmaking The National Board of Review, in keeping with its long tradition of recognizing excellence in filmmaking is proud to salute the following films, crafted by visionary artists which demonstrate the creativity and determination which have always been vital to the film industry: Frailty The Good Girl The Guys Heaven Igby Goes Down Max Personal Velocity Real Women Have Curves Roger Dodger Sunshine State Tadpole Tully

National Board of Review picks 'The Hours' as top movie; Campbell Scott, Julianne Moore win By CHRISTY LEMIRE, AP Entertainment Writer NEW YORK - "The Hours," starring Meryl Streep, Julianne Moore and Nicole Kidman, is the year's best movie, according to the National Board of Review (news - web sites) of Motion Pictures. Based on Michael Cunningham's Pulitzer Prize-winning novel, the film follows three women in three eras who are all tied to Virginia Woolf's "Mrs. Dalloway." Moore also won the board's best-actress award for "Far From Heaven," in which she plays a 1950s New England housewife who learns her husband is gay, then begins a relationship with her black gardener. Campbell Scott was named the best actor for "Roger Dodger," in which he stars as a shallow womanizer who teaches his nephew about dating during an eventful night in Manhattan. The group's supporting actor prize went to Chris Cooper for "Adaptation." Cooper co-stars as an eccentric orchid breeder in search of a rare, perfect flower. Kathy Bates won best supporting actress for "About Schmidt," in which she plays a bohemian divorcee. Philip Noyce was the group's director of the year for two films: "The Quiet American" and "Rabbit-Proof Fence." The documentary honor went to "Bowling for Columbine," Michael Moore's examination of America's gun culture. Pedro Almodovar's "Talk to Her" was the board's choice for best foreign film of the year. The Spanish film follows two men who are in love with women in comas in the same hospital. Completing the list of the top 10 movies for 2002: "Chicago," "Gangs of New York," "The Quiet American," "Adaptation," "Rabbit-Proof Fence," "The Pianist," "Far From Heaven," "Thirteen Conversations About One Thing" and "Frida." The National Board of Review awards represent the first step in anticipating Academy Award winners, but they're usually not in step with what Oscar voters prefer. Last year, board members chose Baz Luhrmann's revisionist musical "Moulin Rouge" as the best movie; the Academy Award for best picture went to Ron Howard's "A Beautiful Mind," a far more traditional pick for its inspirational themes. And in 2000, "Quills," starring Geoffrey Rush as the Marquis de Sade, was the board's top choice; the best-picture winner was "Gladiator," starring Russell Crowe. The National Board of Review, made up of teachers, writers, actors and movie production workers, will award the winners at a ceremony Jan. 14 in New York.

Thank you Murph...of the top 10 films only 5 have played locally. None of the foreign.

(Mary Murphy) Career Achievement: Christopher Plummer I would just like to say, that I think it's very nice indeed, for him to get such an award(if thats what it is?). His performance in Sound of Music is one of my fondest memories from my childhood. Hearing Edelweiss still moves me. Not to say, that he hasn't done anything worth seeing later. I just haven't paid much attention. My mind has been otherwise engaged.

I found what I think is a very neat application. If you go to http://www.wimba.com/tools/vmail/showroom.php you can record a voice email and send it to anyone you like. Send one to me! (terry@spring.net) I'd love to hear from you using this tool so I could hear you. I've been reading your posts for so long and I often wonder what the voices behind all the words are like! Tell me how your holidays are going and what you'd like to see more of on the Spring, I'll listen!

Karen -- FYI All That Heaven Allows (1955) movie review by Dennis Schwartz, Ozus' World Movie Reviews Rating: FRESH (A) After seeing Sirk's disturbing film, it makes one wonder why any sensitive person would have wanted to live in an American small town in the 1950s. ALL THAT HEAVEN ALLOWS (director: Douglas Sirk; screenwriter: Peg Fenwick/based on the story by Edna L. & Harry Lee; cinematographer: Russell Metty; editor: Frank Gross; music: Frank Skinner; cast: Jane Wyman (Cary Scott), Rock Hudson (Ron Kirby), Gloria Talbott (Kay), William Reynolds (Ned), Conrad Nagel (Harvey), Agnes Moorehead (Sara Warren), Virginia Grey (Alida Anderson), Jacqueline de Wit (Mona Plash), Alex Gerry (George Warren), Hayden Rorke (Dr. Dan Hennessy), Donald Curtis (Howard Hofer), Charles Drake (Mick Anderson), Leigh Snowden (Jo-Ann); Runtime: 89; MPAA Rating: NR; producer: Ross Hunter; Universal; 1955) "After seeing Sirk's disturbing film, it makes one wonder why any sensitive person would have wanted to live in an American small town in the 1950s." Reviewed by Dennis Schwartz "Heaven" is Douglas Sirk's brilliantly perceptive sudsy romantic melodrama that turns into an attack on the American Dream, the ugly provinciality of small town life, and the ill effects of consumerism and materialism on the American soul. After seeing Sirk's disturbing film, it makes one wonder why any sensitive person would have wanted to live in an American small town in the 1950s. The filmmaker of Leftist politics and born in 1900 of Danish parents, went to Germany in his teens to study art and drama and remained there until he fled Nazism in 1937 with his Jewish wife for the American way of life and to be a Hollywood director in its studio system; and, since his established film career was little known in Hollywood, he had to start over from scratch. In "Heaven" he slowly builds his case against America's oppressive cultural life by his soap opera story about a wealthy middle-aged widow in the fictional New England town of Stoningham, Cary Scott (Jane Wyman). She is the loving mother of two college attending children--Ned (William Reynolds) and Kay (Gloria Talbott). Cary is glad to be stuck with her conventional life among the town elites, friends who are living the good country club life of cocktail parties and material comfort. She seems contented because she doesn't know any better. She also has her good reputation to fall back on, her status in the community has been passed on to her by her pillar of the community late businessman hubby, her motherly concerns for her children to keep her occupied, the big house that's been in the family for generations to live comfortably in, and all the money she needs so as to never want for anything. She would like to be swept off her feet romantically, or at least marry someone appealing of the same upper-class trata, but the only eligible bachelor among her set is Harvey (Conrad Nagel). He's someone she does not love (he's just not lovable), but he's safe to be seen with and to be her steady escort at social functions. Harvey's an older, boring man whose idea of romance centers around the need for companionship and affection, but even though he's a dolt he's someone her children feel comfortable with and can accept as a replacement for their dad (you would think, she would say to herself so much for caring about what her dopey kids think!). Her best friend is the snobbish Sara Warren (Agnes Moorehead), someone who looks out for Cary and with whom she feels comfortable telling her personal things. The one in her circle that's even too revolting for her, is the big-mouthed gossip Mona Plash (Jacqueline de Wit). The handsome Adonis, Ron Kirby (Rock Hudson), is her gardener. He's taken over the maintenance job when his dad died three years ago, but she only notices him on this spring day when he's pruning her trees and she eyeballs his bulging muscles and thinks she would rather be with him then with any other dude in town. He's also nice and is no dummy. So begins an affair with someone bred from lower-class parents and fifteen years her junior. He's a nature boy who is building a cabin in the woods and going into the tree farming business with his pal, an advertising executive dropout from the rat race, Mick Anderson (Charles Drake). After a disasterous time at a country club party where married man Howard Hofer (Donald Curtis) makes a boorish pass at her, she's ready to hang out with Ron's 'back to nature friends' who are warmer and more easy going than her old 'uptight' friends. Mick's wife Alida (Virginia Grey) is much sweeter and more genuine than Sara, and Cary begins to think maybe she could live with the pr mitive Ron and learn to also love nature. After all, she swallowed whole that line of bull Ron fed her about the 'golden rain tree' near her house that can only bloom where there's love. Cary at present doesn't love anything, but she swoons unashamedly whenever she's with the hunky Ron. He's secure with himself and strongly rooted as is a tree to the ground, and is living true to his inner nature. He startles her when he asks for her hand in marriage, as he doesn't give a rap about what others think and whatever evil thoughts they have. But she does, and wants to stall for time because she doesn't know what's inside her except she knows she got the hots for him. The women Cary knows are all nasty and have big traps, but Cary still wants their approval. She is fearful of losing their friendship and being kicked out of the fold for marrying someone beneath her in status, as losing those elites would be tantamount to her dying. Her children are even worse. Kay says marrying him would ruin her life. Ned threatens to not see her again. So she breaks up with Ron even though she loves him, rather than upset her family and be ostracized by her own class. She then goes through the motions of living again as if nothing has happened by rejoining her social set, but it's not working because she's getting headaches. Her physician (Hayden Rorke) basically tells her the headaches are from no sex and tells her to ignore what her friends are saying and go live with Ron in the woods, that there's no medicine he can give her that can cure her from what she's suffering from. The final straw for her comes at Christmas, when the children's present is a TV to keep her company. At the sam time, Ned tells her he got a grant to study in Paris for next year and Kay announces she's getting married to her longtime boyfriend. Since they are leaving anyway, she realizes she blew it and has traded a man she loves for a TV. Thereby, she manages to get up enough nerve to go back to Ron in the woods. But, he gets into an accident and has to be nurtured by her back to health. So that even though they're back together, things are not exactly blissful. Cary has been so confused about love all her life, that the seemingly happy ending with them back together is tempered by her still thinking about all that she's giving up. The film ends with a perplexed look on her face, as one wonders what will become of this affair--Will it die when her lust subsides? Sirk leaves us with the human dilemma -- people can't be alone, but they can't be together either. Sirk's films are descriptive films, more than anything else. There's always something missing about his films that the viewer must fill in for themselves. He also knows how to deal with his actors to get top performances from them--Wyman doesn't just react, she thinks to herself and outwardly presents an honest portrayal of a befuddled woman. Even though we can't be certain of how it will all end, we read Wyman's thoughts and she seems to be saying I fit better into my conventional house than Rock's rustic cabin. Viewers have to fill in the blanks to his films in their own way, and this leaves some dissatisfied. Rainer Werner Fassbinder, someone who greatly admired and emulated Sirk in a more daring way, successfully remade "All That Heaven Allows" as "Ali: Fear Eats the Soul." Recently Todd Haynes' "Far From Heaven" takes another look at 1950s small town repression in a remake of the Sirk film, a film I'm eag rly looking forward to seeing. REVIEWED ON 11/28/2002 GRADE: A

8 Women as one of the top 5 foreign films????? Hmmm. (Annette) His performance in Sound of Music is one of my fondest memories from my childhood. Hearing Edelweiss still moves me. Me too, though I believe that someone else did his singing in the movie.

Oh GAH, missing birthdays again, and without suitable photos too. Happy birthday, y'all. Will try to be better prepared next time...unless you would like an ice storm?

Jeannie and Odile? My sense of them on first impression is that they are quite mature for their age, well mannered, self contained, and soft spoken. . . until they post on 166.;-) Happy Birthday to Jeannie and Odile!

Unfortunately, this is just a quick Happy, Happy Birthday to Jeanie and Odile!! Hope you had lots of fun!

Testing!!!

"TWO Drool birthdays at once? But.... how can I manage to be with both of the birthday girls at the same time?" Happy Birthday, Jeanie and Odile!

"Having a birthday, Odile? Well, go to it!"

These are for you, Rika.. lol... perhaps you'll see why I'm sooo intrigued! (bwhahahahaha!) He thinks he's going incognito.. I told him, though, that you'd recognize him for sure! Note the toes!!! Striking a Goofy Pose! Daydreaming...

Ok, one didn't come out right.. (sniffing).. last one, I promise, and if they take up too much room, just delete em, oksey?

HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY, ODILE! I hope it was a wonderful one!

Rika, thanks for those wonderfull pictures. Especially the one from BJD is very droolworthy. As it was my birthday too, I enjoied them as an unexpected present.

Happy Birthday, Odile!!!

Odile, hope you had a great birthday. Nita, hope you also had a great day. Rika, thanks for the pictures - I enjoy them too, and I've long to go before I have a birthday.

So many birthday girls! Hope you all had a great day!

Here's a toast to the birthday girl. Happy Birthday Odile! This sweater kept me warm in England, but you will have to do the honors in Alaska.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ,ODILE A posie for you birthday in Alaska

This is O&E because, well, you'll see. From the SF Examiner: The importance of doing Wilde BY LESLIE KATZ Two extraordinarily skilled actors pretend to be Ernest in a delightful new production of "The Importance of Being Earnest." The fact that they're women only adds to the fun. For the first time in its four-year history, Woman's Will, the Bay Area's excellent all-female Shakespeare troupe, goes beyond the Bard with this holiday-time presentation of Oscar Wilde's classic farce. The show has the appealing elements theatergoers have come to expect from Woman's Will: an extremely competent cast, compact direction by Virginia Reed that proves how less is often more, and an innovative twist. Here, the novelty is the setting. Woman's Will artistic director Erin Merritt (who also plays Algernon), has lined up a series of 19th-century historic venues at which to perform, making this a parlor comedy set in a real parlor. The show has been running at Oakland's 1860s-era Pardee Home; it moves to The City Thursday for a performance at the Trocadero Clubhouse in Stern Grove. At the cozy Pardee Home, which seats about 30, it's difficult not to be pulled in by the setting alone. The audience is more or less "onstage," particularly when the actors make their way to the corners of the antique-filled room. (At one point between scenes, the performers, front and center, take a whimsical equivalent of a seventh-inning stretch, inviting the audience to rise, too.) The close quarters illuminate the laughs, of which there are many. Even after 100 years, Wilde's jokes sparkle, especially when delivered with such panache. (This show's measurably funnier than the recent film starring Rupert Everett and Colin Firth.) Even though the synopsis sounds tricky, the show is anything but. Merritt stars as Algernon, a dry-witted London fellow about town who does his best to mitigate his involvement with his even snootier family: his aunt, Lady Bracknell (Phoebe Moyer) and her daughter Gwendolen (Laura Hope). Algernon has made up a sick friend, Bunbury, whom he "visits" when he wants to avoid an unpleasant social obligation. Likewise, Algernon's friend Worthing (Carla Pantoja) has an imaginary brother, "Ernest," whom he uses for similar purposes. Yet to people he doesn't want to avoid, Worthing himself goes by the name Ernest, which works wonders in wooing Gwendolen, who hilariously says the name gives her vibrations. In Act 2, the action moves from Algnernon's London residence to Worthing's country home, where his beautiful, ditzy young ward, Cecily (Chlo� Bronzan), lives with her tutor Miss Prism (Lauren Carley), and they receive visits from wise village vicar Dr. Chasuble (Dianne M. Terp). High jinks kick in when Algernon, masquerading as brother Ernest, shows up in the flesh, and sets his heart on Cecily. Yet the silly intricacies simply provide the framework for Wilde's pithy observations abut people and society, with comments such as "The very essence of romance is uncertainty -- divorces are made in heaven," or "He's never read a single book, so you can imagine how much he knows," or Miss Prism's dissatisfaction over "the modern mania for turning bad people into good people at a moment's notice." Delivered by these uniformly spot-on actors, the personal quips are even funnier, as when Algernon, as Ernest, calls Cecily "the visible personification of absolute perfection" and she promptly records it in her diary, which she has "ready for publication." Or when Lady Blackwell accuses Cecily, "Your hair seems almost as if nature left it -- that can be altered." Yet Cecily's tresses and wardrobe are indeed lovely. Lustrous period costumes by Greeta Ahart give this Woman's Will production particular glamor, especially compared to shoestring-staged free summer park shows for which the company is famous. The troupe pulls out all the stops here. In addition to the refreshing entertainment, appropriately themed refreshments -- tea and cucumber sandwiches -- are served at intermission. Like everything this company does, they're downright cool. http://www.examiner.com/ex_files/default.jsp?story=X1204EARNESTw [Ed Notes: Oh, to be able to see Colin perform this in a theater that only holds 30! All those lines quoted above weren't in the movie.]

Ack! I've missed so many birthdays! And I'm graphics impaired, to boot! I hope everyone had a great time, and stay warm! I'm iced in :( P.S. Hey, Jeanie, what happened to the nakey skins? :P

Not here, move to 166 if necessary. Please.

Happy Birthday Odile!!! Sorry no graphics! Hope you are keeping safe (....no more earthquakes) AND I hope the weather hasn't gotten too nasty for you (just throw in a movie with ODB in it and that should warm you right up)!

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Happy Birthday Odile

Thank you so much for the birthday wishes Elizabeth S, Dorine, Kathy F, Leona, LeahP, Barb S, moonstar and Tress (no more big earthquakes for now AND a heat wave of sorts; times are good!) Thanks Evelyn & Karen for the lovely graphics (I keep thinking that the cake is blowing those flowers out :) ) (Mari)My sense of them on first impression is that they are quite mature for their age, well mannered, self contained, and soft spoken. . . ...thanks Mari, Lord Dashwood is so well ... dashing (had to remember the well mannered, self contained part, sigh... ) :) Moon, thanks for Mark, I'll just take the toast to go... along with the toaster of course. Keeping warm is what Odiles do best :) Rika, what can I say? Wonderful pictures, thank you so much! The little neck movement with the go to it is definitely melting me every time... He's just finally starting to be so happy, so giddy... sigh... And I'm glad to share my birthdays with two others great firthette: Happy Birthday Jeanie & NitaE! By the way, my DH earned huge Joe Prince points on this one (you know as in lovable, sweet, ...): he took two days off to stay with the kids, cashed in his frequent flyers in order to send just me to Atlanta for a Bruce Springsteen concert. I had the time of my life (I hadn't seen the guy on stage for 9 years), felt like a princess at the hotel. Definitely a great mini-break!

Happy Birthday, Jeanie, Odile, and Nita. Thank you Rika, and Mari for those lovely pictures. I love celebrating birthdays around here. So many treats.

ANOTHER Drool birthday? And here I am, stuck in this rowboat with Natasha." Happy birthday, Nita!

I'ts Nita's Birthday Too!!! Oh My!!! Happy Day o'Birth Nita!

Happy Birthday, Jeanie, Odile, and Nita!!! (insert AFG pic of ODB here...)

Big rush at the bakery today! HAPPY BIRTHDAY NITA

I have arranged to get you into the set to meet Vermeer. Happy Birthday, Nita!

HAPPY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JEANIE, ODILE AND NITA. MANY HAPPY RETURNS. Thanks for most interesting articles Mary and Karen. Thanks for great pics Mari and Rika.

Happy Birthday , Nita

Happy Birthday to Odile and Nita! Here's some "love - love" for the two birthday girls! (I consider the pic "love-love" because it was shown zero times in the movie ;-)) (Jeanie, hope you had fun with Edward P. yesterday! Happy birthday again!)

Happy birthday to Nita and Odile If I knew how to post something sweet or funny or whatever, rest asure I would do so. But I cannot. You just have to take my word, that I am at this moment singing happy birthday out loud. I know it probably won't cause the vibrations, as if ODB sang to you.

Nita, Happy Birthday...here is an image created by Vermeer. I'm sure she's strumming "Happy Birthday to you..." in your honor!

(Lora) Happy Birthday to Odile and Nita! Here's some "love - love" for the two birthday girls! (I consider the pic "love-love" because it was shown zero times in the movie ;-)) And we certainly would have "loved" it if they had at least included it on the DVD.

All these birthday celebrations are exhausting. I think I'll have a lie down. Nita, won't you join me . . .? Happy Birthday, Nita!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, NITA! You got one of my favorite pics -- wistful CF in the rowboat!

I know.... the wistful look just melts me.

Thanks everybody for your birthday wishes. I'm quite overwhelmed by so much attention and so many wonderful pictures of ODB! Lisa, I suppose we will see that yellow coat in that picture again in GWAPE as it is described in the book as one of Vermeer's wife. And I have seen another picture by him with the model wearing it.

(Rika)And we certainly would have "loved" it if they had at least included it on the DVD. How very true, Rika! He even looks great in a short tie ;-) and love the way he carries those T-balls (to the right ;-)?). Also should have said that the "love" in that picture is "true" (yet virtual ;-)) love coming Odile and Nita's way on their birthdays and in no way amounts to "zero." Hope that "sets" that wish right!

Two things...My first question is how unique is this site? Meaning, are there any other celebrities (of any kind) that elicit this kind of response for several years running to include constant newcomers, ongoing fanfic, and obvious dedication...I would love to know.... Secondly, I may (if DH does'nt balk) have the opportunity to fly to London New Years Eve for a few nights. Can anyone make any recommendations as to theatre at that time, neighborhoods to stay in, restaurants, etc? Karen, I hope it is ok to ask this here, after all, I will in all honesty be going to check out things related to ODB. Feel free to email me personally. Thanks!

This site is very unique and is the oldest on the web for Colin. But I have no idea about other celebrity sites. Most of the messageboarding groups started after this site. As to your NY questions, Maria, they are OK to post, but if people have suggestions, they should email you.

The birthday hits just keep on coming. Don't put away the cake pans and candles just yet, because we have another birthday in the house next week. Mari's is December 11 (that's Wednesday, and I think I got it right this time). Don't miss it!

(Rika) Christopher Plummer After all this talk about doubles, I was a little worried, that you were right about someone else singing. So I did some research (nothing as sophisticated as captures an so forth) and found out, that he is the only one being credited on the soundtrack. I know that does not eliminate the possibility of it being someone else, but I'll hang on to my childhood fantasies.

I'll check the extras on my Sound of Music DVD and see if it says anything about it.

Thanks Rika; like Annette, I thought he did his own singing. If not , he's awfully good at lip-syncing.

I just checked the Sound of Music documentary, and I regret to report that my memory was correct. Bill Lee was the singing voice of Captain von Trapp. Plummer could sing - in fact, he had sung on stage in the past. And he insisted that the recording sessions take place at the end of the shoot instead of the beginning in order to give him time to keep working on his voice. He did record the songs, but they decided that although he was good, "good" wasn't good enough, partly because it was going to take an outstanding singer to sound good with Julie Andrews in the "Something Good" duet. A side note - Peggy Wood didn't sing "Climb Every Mountain" either. Evidently she felt she was too far past her prime to handle a song that challenging. Any other cherished beliefs I can destroy while I'm at it?

(Rika)and I regret to report that my memory was correct. Bill Lee was the singing voice of Captain von Trapp. I will never again question your evidently astonishing knowledge on various subjects. I still believe Sound of Music is one of the greatest non ODB-classics, with or without CP's actual singingvoice. And to comfort me I have ODB singing Lady come down. I know, that is his own voice. If it isn't, pray do not tell me! (btw - I loved the welcome-capture for ADA - and then again, who cares, if he (ODB) does his own singing. He is the full axminster (as notet on the BJD-topic)).

Any other cherished beliefs I can destroy while I'm at it? LOL. Thanks Rika. Me and my big mouth;-)

From Screendaily: Almodovar's Talk To Her triumphs at European Film Awards Patrick Frater in Rome 08 December 2002 The 15th European Film Awards were a huge triumph for Spanish maestro Pedro Almodovar and something of a let down for Europe�s cherished diversity. For his touching coma drama Talk To Her (Hable Con Ella), which was crowned as European film of the year, Almodovar also personally scooped awards for best screenwriter, the reinstated prize for best director and its equivalent in the People�s Choice section � a category voted for directly by the cinema-going public. Javier Camara, the newcomer who played the male nurse Benigno in the picture, was also the recipient of the People�s Choice award as best actor. In the official section, selected by members of the European Film Academy (EFA), Sergio Castellito was named best actor for Marco Bellochio�s The Hour Of Religion (L�Ora Di Religione), having also been nominated for Bella Martha. The ensemble cast of 8 Women (8 Femmes) was named best actress, an award which drew gentle reproach from the audience assembled in Rome, even before it was discovered that not one of the cast, nor director Francois Ozon, was in attendance. The award was instead collected by fellow Frenchman Johnny Hallyday, the rocker-turned-actor whose breakout performance in L�Homme Du Train had surprisingly not even been short-listed. EFA�s nod to new talent came in the form of the European Discovery/Fassbinder Award which went to young Hungarian director Gyorgy Palfi, with his diploma film Hukkle, an unusual agrarian-set murder mystery almost entirely without dialogue. The peripatetic awards this year travelled to Rome and were housed in the splendid Teatro dell�Opera followed by a lavish party at the imposing Palazzo delle Esposizione across the road. The ceremony went off without major hitches, but also without much in the way of atmosphere. While it gained in professional touches � co-host Asia Argento wore three different dresses during the ceremony and Castellito, unusually for a European actor, even thanked his agent � it was undermined by the excruciating performance of British comedian Mel Smith, who returned to share hosting honours with Argento. It was difficult to tell which was worse, Smith or a juvenile script which included pathetic jokes about a late taxi, Smith's prejudices about Italy and farting noises. Chemistry with Argento was non-existent. The biggest cheer of the night, and the only one to merit a standing ovation, was the Lifetime Achievement Award for local Italian screenwriting legend Tonino Guerra, writer of some 90 screenplays. Almodovar�s awards may have sat easily with the audience and EFA members, and the director was as generous and excitable as ever in his acceptance speeches, but the rostet of awards meant that many of Europe�s stand out films went away empty handed despite multiple nominations. These included Aki Kaurismaki�s The Man Without A Past Mies (Vailla Menneisyyta), Peter Mullan�s The Magdalene Sisters and Paul Greengrass� Bloody Sunday. Cannes Palme d�Or-winner The Pianist, which is beginning to carve out a successful career at the box office, only took the best cinematography award, for Pawel Edelman. The Awards for once will have little chance of illuminating the path towards future Oscar glory. Spain selected Monday�s In The Sun over Talk To Her as its official candidate for the foreign-language Oscar. And the Screen International Award for a non-European film went to Elia Suleiman�s Divine Intervention, which was last week rejected as an Oscar contender as the US Academy does not recognise the statehood of Palestine. European Film Awards 2002 European Film Talk To Her (Hable Con Ella) dir: Pedro Almodovar European Director Pedro Almodovar for Hable Con Ella European Actor Sergio Castellito for The Hour Of Religion (L�Ora Di Religione) European Actress The cast of 8 Women (8 Femmes) Lifetime Achievement Award Tonino Guerra European Discovery/Fassbinder Award Hukkle dir: Gyorgy Palfi European Short Film/Prix UIP 10 Minutes dir: Ahmed Imamovic Screen International Award for a Non-European Film Divine Intervention Dir: Elia Suleiman European Cinematographer Pawel Edelman for The Pianist European Achievement In World Cinema Victoria Abril European Critics Prize/Prix FIPRESCI Sweet Sixteen Dir: Ken Loach European Screenwriter Pedro Almodovar for Hable Con Ella People�s Choice � Best Actor Javier Camara in Hable Con Ella People�s Choice � Best Actress Kate Winslett in Iris People�s Choice � Best Director Pedro Almodovar for Hable Con Ella

People?s Choice ? Best Actress Kate Winslett in Iris Glad to see this. I frankly thought Judi Dench was the standout, but hey, she has a enough awards already. They by-passed Enigma. Huh!

Enigma might have been last year for them.

M"Man of La Mancha" gets v. luke-warm review from NY Times.... "The set asks for performances of operatic scope, and no one provides them here. The fine-featured Ms. Mastrantonio, an excellent actress, is miscast as the earthy Aldonza. Singing in a reedy, vibrato-heavy voice, she suggests a Judy Collins-like folk singer, newly sprung from Sarah Lawrence and hitting the coffeehouse circuit." Last line is best of all: The horse, a fanciful prop awaiting the magic to make it move, just stands there. For the most part, so does the show" Whole review: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/06/arts/theater/06MANC.html "

Rented and watched "Last of the Mohicans" the other day. Had not realized that Turn of the Screw's Jodhi May played the younger daughter of the commander of the Brit regiment. (She was 17 then) I thought a recent episode of the Sopranos was the most violent thing I had seen in a while, but this whole film had one scene of horror after another. I suppose it was being true to the times, but one more hacking and burning, and I was ready to "trow up." Still the silent strength of Hawkeye, and those flowing locks, kept me watching. Also the malignant intensity of Wes Studi's Magua.

(Evelyn) The set asks for performances of operatic scope, and no one provides them here. They didn't even like Brian Stokes Mitchell? I saw this production during its pre-Broadway tune-up in Washington, and I thought he was fantastic. The fine-featured Ms. Mastrantonio, an excellent actress, is miscast as the earthy Aldonza. Singing in a reedy, vibrato-heavy voice, she suggests a Judy Collins-like folk singer, newly sprung from Sarah Lawrence and hitting the coffeehouse circuit." She did have a lot of vibrato - and at times I thought it got a touch out of control when she was singing in harsher tones - but I have to disagree with the Judy Collins comparison (unless she's changed her approach quite a bit in the month since I saw her in the role). I thought she handled the vocal textures required of Aldonza quite well.

For those following developments, from Empire: Exclusive: Miss World meets Jane Austen 09/12/2002 Now that's what we call a leading lady. Brit director Gurinder Chadha has managed a major casting coup by nabbing perhaps the starriest star of Bollywood - and former Miss World - Aishwarya Rai for her Bollywood take on Jane Austen's classic novel "Pride and Prejudice." Exclusively talking to Empire Online at the European Film Awards in Rome this weekend where her last movie Bend It Like Beckham was up for the Best European Film gong, Chadha let slip that her Eastern reinvention of Mr Darcy and friends will be called Bride and Prejudice and with obvious relish described her next project � which should be ready for Cannes next year - as "an extremely cheeky, irreverent film." It'll also be a truly international one. She commented, "It'll be set in India, England and America and the biggest star of Indian cinema, Aishwarya Rai � the former Miss World � is cast." Architect student turned world-beating model Rai has starred in such huge Bollywood successes as �Aur Pyaar Ho Gaya - for which she won an award for best female debut - and this year's grand saga Devdas which was the first Bollywood film to be invited into the Official Selection at Cannes. And who might play Mr Darcy? "I'm now looking for someone in America," Chadha said before giggling, "It'll be someone very good-looking and handsome I assure you!"

Last night's episode of The Sopranos was better than most movies I've seen this year. Edie Falco is the wonder. And having Dean Martin tape playing on the boat "by the shore" was a hoot. Today Show had three of the guys on...Furio was one of them. Says he doesn't know whether or not his character will re-appear. The writers are at it as we speak. Taping starts end of Feb and March for the 5th and last season next year. (Evelyn) The set asks for performances of operatic scope, and no one provides them here. (Rika)They didn't even like Brian Stokes Mitchell? They didn't even like the horse!! Called it..."stiflingly overscaled production". I saw Brian Stokes Mitchell in Kiss Me Kate and he was terrific. It's difficult to take on these shows when someone like Richard Kiley was legendary in the role years ago. Actually the reviewer said to leave at 9:15 after BSM sings "Impossible Dream"!

That was *quite* an ender, wasn't it? The way they advertised it you would've thought another major whacking was to have taken place. In a sense, it was as shocking though not if you were aware that this season was "dedicated" to the Tony-Carmella relationship. Each season has had a focus. Edie Falco was outstanding and is probably now a shoe-in for the Emmy. ~~~~~~~~ BTW, I put a very interesting article about Daniel Day-Lewish on his topic (60). Because he is considered of the same "acting class" as Colin, it really provokes comparisons between the two. If so, 165 would be the place to discuss.

(Screendaily on the European Film Awards) The ceremony went off without major hitches, but also without much in the way of atmosphere. I watched this on the Sundance channel late Saturday. It was possibly the worst awards show I've ever seen. I have no idea who Mel Smith is, but he was a complete embarrassment. It's bad enough to be unfunny, but this guy was boorish and insulting to boot. His co-host Asia Argento has a permanent snarl on her face and is about the least charismatic beautiful woman I've seen in recent memory. The absolute low point was when Almodovar came up for one of his prizes and the first thing out of his mouth was "awards are very commonplace for me." Ioan Gruffudd (announced by Asia as "Johann") was one of the few spots of charm, IMO, speaking in his native Welsh accent and rolling those Rs like mad!:-)

Hope this is ok to post here. I had the opportunity to catch Andrea Bocelli in concert last night at the First Union Center in Philadelphia. He was outstanding and worth every penny of the ticket price. Last evening was the last date of this tour, but I encourage anyone who has the opportunity to catch one of his concerts to go. What a performance.

Thank you, boss, for the Daniel Day Lewis article...I don't know where my comments belong...they don't relate to Colin and I don't want to insult fans of DDL on his topic.... But really, I can't see the fascination with this man... (DDL)"I certainly have no plans to work in a film at any point soon. I've managed to avoid it for the past five years." I haven't missed him either. 'Normally, Daniel never says more than two words. And the second one is usually "off".' Why put up with this man...His acting talents aren't that superior to warrant this type of behavaior. Hey, Danny...take a tip from that gentleman, Tom Hanks. Personally, I think he generates his own mystique by being so aloof, and arrogant. Yes, his films have been classics. But so have other actors. I will see "Gangs..." only because of all the hoopla. But certainly not to see him.

(Evelyn)Last night's episode of The Sopranos was better than most movies I've seen this year. My thoughts exactly! Edie Falco is an amazing actress. she conveyed geneuine shock, rage, and betra Edie Falco is the wonder. And having Dean Martin tape playing on the boat "by the shore" was a hoot. Today Show had three of the guys on...Furio was one of them. Says he doesn't know whether or not his character will re-appear.

Whoops, hit send by mistake. Back to Edie, and portaying shock, rage, and betrayal. So well done. Many actors/actresses chew scenery like made in such scenes, and go completley overboard. Not her. There wasn't a second where you didn't feel it was real. I'm so sorry I didn't see her and Stanley Tucci recently on stage in Frankie and Johnny. . . I think others have taken over their roles now. Loved the Dino on the boat bit, too. And the tremendous irony of the family getting on Christopher for the dope--but carrying out hits is ok in their world, because after all, he's sober now. All in all, a good season.

Mari re Frankie and Johnny: I think others have taken over their roles now. Ralphie (Joe Pantoliano -- with his head) now has Tucci's role. Falco is just a wonderfully natural actress. The scenes between the two of them kept me riveted. And we should give a nod to Park Ridge New Jersey's own James Gandolfini. His expressions when she talked, and his physical reactions were right up there too. The guy playing Johnny Sack is one scary, dangerous dude. Next year is the last, as I have read. I hope Furio comes back, that they finally do something more than stare at each other, and that Carm ends up in a little villa in Italy with him. Dean Martin on the boat - hysterical! And how about the beautiful "I Have Dreamed" from The King And I" over the ending credits? Hurry up next September!!!

Uh Hum...clearing throat Spoiler Alert for The Sopranos Season Ending We have not had those episodes aired yet here in Australia......I skipped over and think I didn't blow it! (Gosh I hope we haven't, if we did I missed them.)

(Murph) "I Have Dreamed" from The King And I" over the ending credits? Is that what it is? I recognized it as the same music Michael Douglas and Annette Bening danced to in the American President. Strange, it doesn't bring back memories of King and I. *whistling a happy tune* :) (Mari) Mel Smith is, but he was a complete embarrassment Didn't the various articles mention how bad he was too? Ioan Gruffudd (announced by Asia as "Johann") If the "J" was pronounced as a "Y" then it would be correct. I've seen the transliterated written as Johann Griffith.

Re: Spoilers Hey, I opened up Netscape's home page and saw the finale info in big bold letters. There's a nice article about it up on Yahoo news too, with all the details. ;-) Are you even seeing the same season as us?

We have two seasons of TV programming per year for the imports. Not one and then a series of reuns like in America. :( For example, they might show new Jag for half a year and then new Stargate for the second half. Then go back to the newer episodes of Jag. Almost everything, and I say almost as there are exceptions, are shown later on. The first Survivor is a good example. You couldn't read the internet unless you spoiled the ending. Although now I think the latest series is pretty much in line with America.

Karen: It was an orchestral version. The King and I soundtrack lyrics - I Have Dreamed [LUN THA] I have dreamed that your arms are lovely, I have dreamed what a joy you'll be. I have dreamed every word you whisper. When you're close, Close to me. How you look in the glow of evening I have dreamed and enjoyed the view. In these dreams I've loved you so That by now I think I know What it's like to be loved by you, I will love being loved by you. [TUPTIM] Alone and awake I've looked at the stars, The same that smile on you; And time and again I've thought all the things T hat you were thinking too. I have dreamed that your arms are lovely, I have dreamed what a joy you'll be. I have dreamed every word you whisper. When you're close, Close to me. How you look in the glow of evening I have dreamed and enjoyed the view. In these dreams I've loved you so That by now I think I know. [BOTH] What it's like to be loved by you. I will love being loved by you.

WARNING: SOPRANOS SPOILERS IN HERE: (Karen)Didn't the various articles mention how bad he was too? I only saw the article you posted, which is what prompted me to comment. If the "J" was pronounced as a "Y" then it would be correct. But it's not the way he or the Welsh pronounce it; as hostess, Asia should have used the pronunciation he uses. YO-in, not Yo-hahn. For example, I can transliterate "Asia" as we'd pronounce the continent and it would be incorrect because she (and the Italians) say it "Oz-ee-ya." No biggie, for this show's standards; the English subtitles in one of Almodovar's clips were misspelled.:-( (Murph)Ralphie (Joe Pantoliano -- with his head Is that right, Joey "Pants?" I'll *never* forget the "head" episode!: Christopher, recoiling over the rug: "ACK! Did you know he wore that thing?" Tony: "Of course I knew. You're so hopped up on dope, he coulda been wearin' your mother's muff on his head and you wouldn't have known the difference." Classic. Agree that James G. is superb; he is so good and gets to shine week after week that I take him for granted.;-) Was beating my head trying to identify the ending theme--King & I, of course--thanks! Perfect touch. Am still chuckling over Dino's "serenade": "I love Vegas in the springtime. . . I love Vegas in the fall . . ." I hope Furio comes back Me too. I almost fell over the first time I saw him interviewed and realized he was American. That Italian accent is so right on; says his mother is Neapolitan and he patterned it after her accent. Re: Daniel Day Lewis. I saw him and Scorsese interviewed on Charlie Rose last week. He comes across as far more normal than the printed articles would have you beleive. He is sort of quiet, and not nearly as articulate as I would have thought. I do like him very much as an actor. As for doing one film every 4 or 5 years, either he or his wife or both of them must have *big* family bucks. Also, after reading what he goes through for each role, I guess he can't pull that off twice a year. To his credit, he never takes "I can phone this in" sort of roles, which would, in his words, "waste my talent." Then again, it appears he can afford not to. Also, *his* wife actually *does* work--a writer by trade, she has now written and directed a film, Personal Velocity, which is greating great reviews. I think it was a grand prize winner at Sundance last year.

More Soprano Spoilers I have dreamed that your arms are lovely, I have dreamed what a joy you'll be. I have dreamed every word you whisper. When you're close, I almost wept when Carmela said to Tony: "What does she[mistress] have that I don't have" The painful cry of the betrayed woman... Catharina to V. "Why didn't you ever paint me". One of those writers on that show has walked in those mocassins. At the end I was wrung-out.A triumph for television.

Happy belated birthday to Nita, and a regular happy birthday to Mari, from the graphics impaired Drool member :( (Rika) Any other cherished beliefs I can destroy while I'm at it? I've got one, and I thought of it while reading the Christopher Plummer lip-synching discussion: Audrey Hepburn's singing was dubbed in My Fair Lady. (*ducking*) It's true! (Mari) either he or his wife or both of them must have *big* family bucks Probably so. According to imdb, DDL's maternal grandfather, Sir Michael Balcon, was head of Ealing Studios (!) at one time. His wife is, I believe, the daughter of playwright Arthur Miller (Death of a Salesman, The Crucible). Might explain why he can take a 4-5 year hiatus in between acting jobs.

MIGHT *BE* SOPRANOS SPOILERS IN HERE! ;-) YO-in, not Yo-hahn. Oh yes, that's it. Must be my Midwestern mental inflections. ;-) I actually missed the Ralphie Decapo-ization episode, but Ev caught me up on it when I got back so that I would know what was going on. Despite its goriness, I could easily see why it would be necessary. We needed to be reminded that these guys are not nice human beings, your next-door neighbor types (for all youse in Joisey). They are animals. Sounds like it did the trick. But don't you love how they straddle the line between civilized and their normal behavior? Like that "intervention" for Christopher. What was that line of Tony's..."you should be glad we didn't intervention...." I heard Furio being interviewed last year, but I'd bet most people really think he's from Italy. Makes me kind of laugh when everyone always starts backing off from Americans doing foreign accents, claiming they'd be caricatured. LOL! Re: DDL When I read the article, it made perfect sense to me why he is so much in demand. He puts so much into his roles and he did make a name for himself with the early ones: Unbearable Lightness of Being, My Beautiful Launderette, etc., that when he did My Left Foot, he had arrived. Last of the Mohicans was a major feat (no pun) of physical preparation, with the result being total believability. I saw Personal Velocity back in October. It was OK. Three separate stories, two dramas sandwiching a very funny piece with Parker Posey in the middle. I saw so many films during those two weeks that some are more vague than others. But this one had a voiceover narration, which I find a weak element for film, but not surprising given Rebecca Miller's background.

Bronwen: Love your story, "Untitled". Will there other postings to this story? I certainly hope so. elaine

Happy Birthday Jeanie & Odile

(Moonstar) Audrey Hepburn's singing was dubbed in My Fair Lady. Yup, true. Marni Nixon (who also sang for Deborah Kerr in "The King and I") did the singing. (Here's some trivia that connects the factoid above to the Christopher Plummer stuff: Marni Nixon played one of the nuns in "The Sound of Music.") Audrey Hepburn recorded at least some of the songs from "My Fair Lady," but they didn't use her recordings. I've heard that she was very upset that they wouldn't let her do her own singing. She was supposedly feeling defensive because she got the film role instead of Julie Andrews (who originated the role on stage), and so she tried to keep it a secret that she had a "vocal double" for the film. I once heard Hepburn's recording of "Wouldn't It Be Loverly" and I didn't think it was half bad. But I doubt that she had the pipes to handle some of the other songs.

Magazine (New Yorker) Paints Miramax's Weinstein as 'Raging Bull' Mon Dec 9, 9:25 PM ET LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - In the town that invented the temper tantrum, Miramax studio chief Harvey Weinstein stands out -- not only as a brilliant filmmaker -- but as a bully whose rages and boorish behavior have repelled Hollywood, the New Yorker magazine reported on Monday. But the magazine says Weinstein, whom it describes as "a man with little self-control," has vowed to reform. Weinstein told New Yorker writer Ken Auletta that his temper "is the thing I hate most about myself," but denied raising his voice or threatening anyone. "It's like Ariel Sharon (news - web sites) -- you can't be a lion of the desert and then not govern properly," he said. "At a certain point it's time for the fire-bombing to be over. You've got to know when the revolution has succeeded. Why do I have to keep fighting?" Auletta said that "At times, (Weinstein) appears about to burst with fury, his fists closed, his teeth clenched, his large head shaking as he loses the struggle to contain himself." The scrappy Weinstein conceded that he has lately developed a reputation for picking nasty fights with competitors, but blamed his outbursts on his passion for making good films. Stung by accusations that he conducted a smear campaign against Vivendi Universal Entertainment's "A Beautiful Mind" during Oscar voting season, Weinstein confronted Universal's chief Barry Diller and executive Stacey Snider in two well-publicized incidents. At a party following the Golden Globe Awards (news - web sites) in January, an enraged Weinstein reportedly jabbed a finger in Snider's face and told her: "You're going down for this." The encounter led to the second confrontation with Diller, who had called Weinstein "a thug" in a New York Post article. Witnesses to the incident said the two studio heads went toe-to-toe and appeared headed for a fistfight. Weinstein, 50, believes the tumult that surrounds him arises from Hollywood's jealousy over his success, and that creative tension is essential to making good movies. Director Anthony Minghella (news), whose film "The English Patient" was a critical smash for Miramax, described Weinstein as "a bull." "When he's charging alongside you can be an exhilarating presence in your life," Minghella said. "If he's charging toward you, then it's a big force to negotiate." Although respected as an instinctive editor, Weinstein's sometimes heavy-handed tactics with directors have earned him the nickname "Harvey Scissorhands." "I'm not cutting for fun," he said. "I'm cutting for the s... to work. All my life I served one master: the film. I love movies."

"Harvey Scissorhands." Oh very good, thanks Mary for the article. And, thanks droolers for the spoiler warmings!!!!! Er, warnings! :)

LOS ANGELES �� The season finale of "The Sopranos" was the second most-watched episode of HBO's mob drama, with 12.5 million viewers tuning in as Carmela and Tony Soprano split. The episode, which aired Sunday, drew a larger audience than any broadcast network show airing at the same time, according to Nielsen Media Research figures. "This is a huge number by anyone's standards," David Baldwin, HBO's executive vice president for program planning, said Tuesday. As last year, the finale proved a runner-up in ratings to the season premiere: "The Sopranos" drew its biggest-ever audience, 13.4 million, when it returned Sept. 15 for the fourth season. Overall, the series was up 22 percent in viewership compared to last season. In the finale, mob boss Tony (James Gandolfini) crossed the marital infidelity line once too often. Carmela (Edie Falco) threw him and his golf clubs out of their New Jersey home after hearing of a new indiscretion. On the business front, Tony backed out of both a deal to buy a waterfront home and a plot to kill New York boss Carmine � the latter decision leaving fellow co-conspirator Johnny Sack very unhappy. The episode, which included high-volume blasts of Dean Martin's crooning used as a weapon, ended to the bittersweet strains of "I Have Dreamed," the Richard Rodgers' tune. Series creator David Chase has said he intends to do just one more season of "The Sopranos," but noted that HBO holds the series' rights. HBO's Baldwin had no comment on its future. � 2002 The Associated Press

(Variety)"Director Anthony Minghella (news), whose film "The English Patient" was a critical smash for Miramax, described Weinstein as "a bull." Minghella didn't say that in "The Making of TEP" . If it hadn't been for Harvey's backing $$$ the TEP never would have been made after Paramount pulled the plug on the financing.

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Heehee, I like your icon, Lisa. Very well done. Weren't we looking for something to show that action a while back? I've forgotten though what we wanted it for. MB ;-)?

Mari, hope you have a great day!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MARI! May it be a wonderful, Firth-filled one!

Just to make the meaning perfectly clear ... Best wishes for a wonderful day!

Happy Birthday, Mari As someone might have noticed, I have a weakness for roses, so here is some for you.

Have a great birthday Mari!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARI I had a great time shopping for you and couldn�t decide on just one! So I picked you out three! Oops, wonder how that got in there?!!!

Happy Birthday, Mari! A toast to the birthday girl, who always makes me laugh, even if it�s at my expense. With all my love, Colin I know my size has never bothered anyone here before. ;-)

Happy Birthday Mari!!! I was looking for yet another stunning picture of ODB for you, but instead I ran across the link below which might give you a little giggle. Scroll down a bit, there are sketches of Colin Valmont and morphing Colin, etc. I don't see the resemblence, but I appreciate that ODB was in mind...

Oops fogot to provide link... http://vcl.ctrl-c.liu.se/vcl/Artists/Kitsune25/index01-by-date.html

Hey Mari....would you ask Karen and Suzee to let me come to your party? (They won't let me in the door) HAPPY BIRTHDAY.... Love from 'Roland'

[Pssst spoiler, Lisa, don't read] For your birthday, Mari, we were going to do another intervention: but instead we just decided to raise our glasses and have this toast: And Artie is sending along a few treats.

From the guys across the river:

The gang at PS 35, St. Louis playground are proud to call Colin Firth one of their alums...they wanna wish you.... HAPPY BOITDAY Leanvenworth Cell #33479

What's your favorite music for a horizontal mambo?

Happy Birthday Mari! Hope you have a wonderful day.

In Honour of your birthday, the staff at THE DOME wish to present you with your favorite exhibit Found on the beach of....

ROTFLOL Ev!! Somehow I missed that one. Spent way too long trying to get anything to work at the exhibits I did go into. ;-D

It's lunchtime out east. Time for Mari for spit up her lunch. ;-) [insert Lisa's new graphic here] Linda Richman: Welcome to "Coffee Talk". I'm your host, Linda Richman. Because it's her 90th birthday today, everyone here should give my great-aunt Estelle Fishkin a big hand. Come on. Get off your tocheses, and give her a hand. How many of you think you're going to live to 90? You should be so lucky. Happy Birthday Tante Esther. G'zid. g'zint. Oh that was so moving. I need to take a minute here to compose myself. Talk amongst yourselves. I will give you a topic: The Holy Roman Empire was neither holy nor Roman nor an empire. Discuss." [pause] OK, I'm better now. Yeah, Esther has her little mishigas, but she's got a heart of gold. Oy, I'm getting a bissileh verklempt again. [waving stagehands off] No, I'm alright now and thank God that Lancome mascara is waterproof. Have we got a such a big star with us today. No, it's not another to die-for visit by our beloved Barbra Joan, but something almost as good. What a treat! He was here last year and, long story short, he's was named one of People's 50 Most Beautiful and a GQ Man of the Year. This man is like butter. He looks like butter. His acting is like butter. And when he talks, it's like that real expensive imported butter you don't buy at the store because who needs it. [shrugs shoulders] And pay close attention, girls, when he walks in. It'll be a Land O Lakes moment. Is it getting hot in here? [fans self] And then we have a surprise guest. [zips lip] No hints from me, no matter how many deals you try to make. But there's a lady in audience--is that you, Pearl?--with the shpilkes, so I'll bring him in. Coffee Talk is so proud, like you wouldn't believe, to have this very talented, gawgeous British actor here today. Let's welcome Colin Firth, star of Bridget Jones's Diary and the one and only Mr Darcy from six hours of heaven, Pride and Prejudice: [Colin sits down, gives Linda a peck on the cheek.] Colin: Thank you, Linda, I am honoured to be back on your program. Linda: We enjoyed having you here so much last time. Did you enjoy it? Colin: How can one not enjoy such a marvelous hostess? [Linda starts blushing and fanning self again] Linda: So, bubala, what have you been doing since the last time you were here? Any new movies? Colin: Well, yes, this summer you could've seen me in The Importance of Being Earnest, with Rupert Everett and Judi Dench. Linda: Oy that fegellah. I don't like to go to movies with them. But I do like that Judi Dench of yours. Real chutzpah that one. Am I right or am I right? [winks knowingly at audience] But you liked working with that fegellah? Colin: I'm not familiar with term? Linda: Oy, pardon my language, I know it's not [uses fingers to denote quotation marks] P.C. but it means he's a little light in the loafers as they used to say in my day. Colin: Er, you know, we worked together many years ago and didn't get along. He keeps telling everyone that, in those days, I was a ghastly guitar-playing communist ready to give my first $500 to charity instead of getting rich. He found that objectionable. Of course, it's probably not far from the truth. Linda: Are you still like that or have you finally grown up? Colin: [with a shy nod] I've given in to my superficialities. Linda: How so? Colin: Well, at 15, I wanted to be pop star. Nowadays, I don't even go out on a Saturday night. I prefer Tuesdays when nobody's around. I like my easy life and I get a few more upgrades than before. Linda: [points to head] Smart boy. So can we expect to see you as the dashing romantic lead in another film soon? Colin: I would die of boredom if I spent my life playing romantic leads. I can hardly bring myself to do more than one every few years really. It's not very interesting work usually. Linda: No? But we love you in it. You're like butter. Colin: Thank you, but I try to vary the parts. Linda: Is that right. Well, the other night me and Mortie were in bed. He had the remote and landed on one those porn channels--what goes on would make your head spin--and I saw you in some London movie... Colin: Right. Brilliant comedy. When I read the script I said to myself that I had to jump at something like this. Linda: Lemme tell ya, boychik, you should stop talking to yourself. It was drek, pure and simple, drek and that pipsqueak's mother should wash out his mouth with soap. [Colin looks a little dejected] But I'm sure your next one will be better, something they should give you an Oscar for. Colin: Um, er, my next one is called Hope Springs, which is based on a novel by the man who wrote The Graduate... Linda: Oy! Did I love that movie. Dustin Hoffman and Anne Bancroft were to die for. And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson... Sorry, Colin, go on. Colin: It's about an Englishman who shows up in a tiny town in New England called Hope in a desperate state. It's a torn-between-two-women love story. Linda: [raises eyebrows] And you said you wouldn't be doing anymore dashing, leading man roles. Not nice to give me a near heart attack, bubes. So, who are your gawgeous co-stars? Colin: The kooky girlfriend is Heather Graham and the ex is Minnie Driver... Linda: Ugh! Ptoey ptoey! Barbra's almost, near step-daughter-in-law! That kurveh. Ptoey ptoey. [shudders] Colin: [shocked and trying to recover] She's a wonderful actress and I've worked with her before. Twice actually. And, I'm probably responsible for her earliest film break when I told the director of Circle of Friends about her. We had worked in a play together. Linda: [glaring at him] The tsores she put that family through. I'm sorry but I'm going to need a moment to pull myself back together. Talk amongst yourselves. I'll give you a topic: Rhode Island, it's not a road, nor an island. Discuss." [pause] I'm better now. You have to be a professional on TV. Let's move on. I've been noticing, Colin honey, that you look so thin since last year. Doesn't your wife feed you? Colin: I eat plenty of pasta but I also try to keep in shape. Linda: Have we got a surprise for you. We had the mazel to get your personal trainer to stop by. Come on in Richard! [Richard bounces in] Richard: [kisses everybody] Hi everyone and are we ready to SWEAT? Linda: Calm down, Richard, I don't want you should drai my kop. [smiles benignly] So tell us what you did to get Colin in this shape. Richard: Well first we started with my Deal a Meal plan. He wasn't all that keen that we didn't have a card for his daily beers down at the corner pub, but he soon got with the program after someone noticed the resemblance between his thighs and his baby's. Linda: So you had some kind of pulkes, huh? [chuckling] Nevermind. How much weight did you lose, Colin? My friend Liz dropped 65 pounds on that Deal a Meal thing. It was a ganza megillah, I'm telling ya. Colin: I believe I lost approximately 2 stone and as I'm sure you know a stone is 14 pounds. Linda: Just by dieting? Richard: Oh no, Colin was a big fan of my latest exercise DVD called Disco Sweat. If I do another one, I'm going to have get Colin to be on it. You should see that boy shake his booty. We were really naughty and took a few pictures of him doing the Disco Sweat routine. He didn't know, but I'm sure he wouldn't care. Right, Colin? [Colin looks away from the monitor] Linda: Isn't that adorable? You shouldn't be embarrassed, Colin, I see great things in the future for you. Really. Okay, let's go to the phones now because we don't have much time. The number is 555-4444. Welcome to "Coffee Talk". Give us a call, we'll talk. No big whoop. Caller: I have a question for Colin. Did you really refuse to do a screen test for the Sylvia Plath movie? Colin: Um, er, you see [then laughs]. And to think I used to complain that the amount of respect I got was ridiculous. [laughs again] Caller: Hey, Linda, it's my birthday too today. Can Colin say 'Happy Birthday' to me, Mari? Linda: Sure thing. Go ahead, Colin, and while you're at it, would you say hello to my daughter Robin. She's your biggest fan but down in Boca visiting with the makhetunim. You know how it is, Florida in the winter. Colin: [looks straight into camera] Happy Birthday Mari and Hi to Robin. Linda: I'll tumble for you. Okay, that's all the time. Good night.

(*Positively SHRIEKING with laughter*) Oh Karen!!! How dare you post that during lunch?! I almost spit my ravioli all over the keyboard! So, so, so funny!!!!! Many thanks to Lisa for the graphic!!!

Party? Did someone say PARTY? And such a lovely guest list! Many thanks to Moonstar, KJ, Kathy, Leah, Odile, and Ada for the wonderful wishes! Much appreciated, ladies. Interesting Colin morphing, Maria, thanks! Annette, I can almost smell those roses from here--they're my favorite, too! Karen, you know how I love that "hills are alive" pic! As for the intervention . . . I swear I didn't sit on anybody's dog, though the neighborhood cats had better watch out . . .;-) So many distinguished guests . . . nice of the Prince to let bygones be bygones. I swear I didn't sit on him either, just mowed him down unintentionally. Hey, he shoulda watched where he was going . . .;-) I see Moon has supplied the bubbly, and yes, that Colin is just my size!:-) Evelyn, ROTFPIMP! Thanks for sneaking Roland in. I like being In The Company of (good looking) Men!:-) And no wonder poor CF had a hard time fitting in at PS 35--those short pants he wore should have had horizontal stripes.:-) "Nobody knows . . . the trouble I've seen . . ." ;-) Sing it, Colin!;-) As for the Dome message . . . omigod, I can't stop laughing. Brings back fond memories of a very happy day in a lovely city with lovely friends!:-)

Tante Esther....ptoey*dodging the spit!* Too funny Karen... (Karen)Spent way too long trying to get anything to work at the exhibits I did go into. ;-D My favorite exhibit was at De Beers...*hint, hint* for my birthday.... Hey, I'm thirsty. What is this ...a tea-totaler party?

Even in Australia, along the Rabbit Proof Fence, and up to Coffs Harbour and to Nana Glen, the word spread... H A P P Y D A Y!

Happy Birthday Mari! I came to your party all dressed up...where ARE all those other tarts and vicars???!! Hope you have a great day!! LOL Karen! Linda: Is that right. Well, the other night me and Mortie were in bed. He had the remote and landed on one those porn channels--what goes on would make your head spin--and I saw you in some London movie... Colin: Right. Brilliant comedy. When I read the script I said to myself that I had to jump at something like this. Linda, should have stuck with the porn...better acting and beefier plot! ;-)

Oh my, look at the calendar, it's Mari's birthday today! I was planning a party for her here at my home away from home, but no one could make it - not even Gwendolyn and Cecily are in their places behind me! But I hear Mari's having a great party on the World Wide Web. I don't know much about the computer, but can you get me there in this limo? Oh well, I can see that I've been laboring under a misapprehension. Very, very foolish mistake. Forgive me, Mari. So I'll just send happy thoughts and wishes your way! Have a very, very wonderful birthday!

(Evelyn) What is this ...a tea-totaler party? *hic* We've all been out, drinking our lunches. Moon hasn't left the cocktail lounge yet. Wonder who will drive her home. ;-) OK, now for something completely different. A little culture. A post-modernist look at Dylan Thomas' classic The Hunchback in the Park Take heart, Mari. He is practicing his classics.

oops, Mari, here's the limo. Colin was lost in it in cyberspace for a little while...;-) Again, have a very happy birthday!

Happy birthday, Mari I wish you a wonderful day and lots of presents!

Karen!! LOL!!! Love the Linda Richman interview! He is "Like buttah" Great party!!

Karen, Absolutely maaaaavalos, wonnerful, steee-u-pen-dous...well I could go on! If you all want to wing it over to my place the fires are out, the smoke is gone and the sun is shining. I'll do some fresh oysters from the bay and get some of Mari's favourite wine. What's your preference Birthday Girl???

I brought some beverages. You choose the one you want, Mari, and Colin can have the other.

OMG, Karen! I can hardly type, I'm laughing so hard!

He's running a little late, Mari, but he wanted to look his best for your party. He'll be along soon.

I know how you've been defending my acting talents and I want you to know how much I do appreciate it. (that's the right word, isn't it? Anyway, if you'd like to start up a fanclub for me or a new website, I would really like for someone with your good taste to do it. Many people can't see through to my real talents like you have and I don't know why that is. I've bared my soul in so many of my films, yet they haven't made the connection that you and I have. *hugs* Heather

Colin: [with a shy nod] I've given in to my superficialities. ROTF! Too funny Karen! (Karen), Moon hasn't left the cocktail lounge yet. Wonder who will drive her home. ;-) Hic! Great party! I have the Rolls remember. ;-)

KAREN!! Just when I thought it was safe to bite into my gefelte fish, along comes Cawffee Tawk. . . ROTFLMAO! You have outdone yourself this time; almost worth getting a year older for! And when he talks, it's like that real expensive imported butter you don't buy at the store because who needs it. [shrugs shoulders] Are you still like that or have you finally grown up? Oy that fegellah Lemme tell ya, boychik, you should stop talking to yourself. It was drek, pure and simple, drek and that pipsqueak's mother should wash out his mouth with soap. The tsores she put that family through. Oh, hell, I could highlight the whole thing. Brilliant, shana, thank you! Now dialing foyve-foyve-foyve-faw-faw-faw-faw . . .;-)

(Moon)I have the Rolls remember. ;-) I can give you a lift in Colin's cyberRolls ;-) Karen, Linda and Colin's interview cracks me up, but where did you find that picture of Heather? Hope she springs for better clothes in her next movie ;-) What a birthday, Mari!

MANY MAGICAL MOMENTS MARI Special birthday greetings to you! I see an excellent party is in full swing and you deserve no less honey;-) As well as the illustrious Mr. Firth as guest of honour another of your very favourite guests is begging to be let in bearing gifts, mmmmmmm nice uniform Major, .... red hair, freckles, no wait he's in his "Victorian Bastard " outfit tonite, just the way you like him ! Well Colin's taken a bit of a beating in recent days I understand with all these celebrations;-) Happy Belated Birthday , Jeanie, Odile and Nita

Sorry we had to leave the party temporarily, but Colin and I needed to rest up before the festivites got into full swing. . .

You've all been busy! Lisa, of the 4 choices you gave me earlier, I'll take Mark Darcy, hands down. --Matthew is cute, but he had the poor judgment to appear in a bad movie. So here's outtahere.;-) --Donovan Quick is well-meaning, but he had the poor judgment to leave a well paying job. Ix-nay. --Paul Ashworth and I have more in common than I sometimes care to admit, but momma always said never go with a man whose thighs are thinner than yours. So, Mark it is!:-)

Karen That interview was very, very good indeed. ROTFLOL. (Rika - what is OMI?) I didn't have any trouble spitting out my lunch, since its almost midnight. But I have to come �p with some explanation to my family (whom I woke up with my uncontrolable laughs). And I have to find out something new and fast. You know, I still have to vary the answers.

Murph, you thank that larrakin Russell for stopping by! But the booze is all for me.;-) Some Australian Chardonnay, Lisa, if you please. Thanks for the good wishes, Tress, Lora and Nita. Lora, I do love a man with a Rolls . . .no Hyundais for this girl.;-) (Karen)A post-modernist look at Dylan Thomas' classic The Hunchback in the Park LOL! You choose the one you want, Mari, and Colin can have the other. . . Take heart, Mari. He is practicing his classics. Yes, uneasy lies the head that changes the nappies.;-) Rika, you tell that man to stay put in that tub--I'll be right in!:-) ("Heather")that's the right word, isn't it? Pfft! Linda Richman and I are taking Heather out back to question her about Colin's approach to his craft, his professionalism, his art of acting. . .and whether or not he schtupped her.;-) (Lizza)nice uniform Major, .... red hair, freckles, no wait he's in his "Victorian Bastard " outfit tonite, just the way you like him ! Hee hee, yes this is a dual purpose party--half is a birthday celebration, the other half is a meeting of the Soames Anti-Defamation League! (I go for Victorian bastards, what can I say?!)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MARI. Have a licken-good time... From me, my cross-dresser husband and kleptomaniac son Play Doh sculpture will arrive in the mail

Victorian Bastard did you say???? Hope I'm not late...

And the Guys form Easy Company wanna wish you a Happy Birthday too....

Hey Mari, I'm looking out for you, bella birthday girl, from my villa on Lake Como. Our late supper is waiting. I hope my neighbor Moon hasn't given you too many of her famous Martinis. I have a chilled Bollinger that Signor Broccoli sent me to try and sweet talk me into the James Bond role. That can wait. But, I did sign up for TEOR upon your suggestion, and yes they want me to wear a wet shirt. Shall we practice tonight?

He's on his way, Mari - just had to stop off at Rosings for a quick visit first

Mari, I'm sorry to be so late. I've been in court all day. After all I'm a top barrister, England's top person, really. I thought after the party we could sneak away and have some time alone. Maybe we could try out all the new things I've learned from my kissing lessons. Happy Birthday, Mari

"I can't believe my horse threw me into that blasted lake! Now I have to go change clothes, and I am already late for Mari's party!" (By the way, I've always been one who said that the wet shirt scene did nothing for me.... but I have to admit that in slow motion it does have its charms.)

Happy Birthday Mari! Looks like all the best people showed up! You have a good time and if you need a break and want to send in a stunt double, just let me know!

"All right, now back to my horse quickly, and to Mari's party straightaway!"

Wohoo, Rika. Thank you for that. He better get to that horse quickly... Oh, I just love birthdays around here. So much to look at.

OMG What are you trying to do to me by posting a picture like that without a warning? File that one away for serious right left dicussion which I am hankering to get going with that motivation before me! Mari, you lucky girl. Looks what's coming at ya!

Ohhhhh Rika! My favorite pants....and those boots...and that stride....! Mari! I'm jealous!! Looks like ODB is more than ready for your celebration and is bringing you some party favors! ;-)

To paraphrase Mae West... "Is that a sausage in your pocket...or are you happy to see me."

(Tress) more than ready for your celebration More than ready for something. OMG...I CANNOT believe that picture. If I did not already lust for his luscious little self, that one would do it..."Back to my horse quickly"? Honey, yer horse ain't got nuthin' on you. (BTW, whose birthday is next?) Nice boots shot too! Thanks from the bottom of my sole!

I had an entirely different Darcy-walking-fast capture selected, but when I saw that one I knew that to post it would be akin to tossing a raw steak into a room full of hungry wolves. Couldn't resist. ;-) Well, anyway, he's back on his horse and on his way again, though he's wondering when his horse changed colors:

And here he is at last..... (drum roll.........) I was contacted by Miss Mary Bennet, who informed me that some behavior of the most unseemly kind was taking place here. I hastened at once to assist in restoring the appropriate moral tone for young ladies of good character. I encountered Mr. Darcy on his way here, but I urged him to return home, as from Miss Mary's reports he would be in great jeopardy were he to venture to this place. Happy Birthday anyway, Mari!

Oh my GAWD, Karen, I'm still choking here. Buttah indeed. Should be archived! I replaced my tea, sat back down and found Soames...up and down again, only to find Darcy in several rather interesting states of dress. Mari, happy birthday! I do hope you have a good one. I will refrain from sending you any flu viruses. :( My birthday is Friday...yes, the 13th

Sorry Rika and Mari, but I have further comments about the previous capture. WHAT THE HELL WAS ELIZABETH THINKING??? SHE HAD HIM IN THE WOODS RIGHT AFTER THAT FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! DITCHING THE GARDINERS WOULD HAVE BEEN A SIMPLE MATTER, MRS. G HAD TROUBLE WALKING!!! OH, SHE WAS OUT OF HER LIVING MIND. If that had been me I would have grabbed the man by those wide green lapels, dragged him across his expansive gravel drive and had him in the shubbery faster than his horse is now taking him to Mari's party. Whew, guess I'll go do some Christmas shopping now!

Lisa, I think you have the right idea for Elizabeth. Please remember this when writing the next chapter of ALRTH. :-) (Elizabeth S) My birthday is Friday...yes, the 13th Okay, gang, we've got another birthday in two days! Don't miss it! (And, by the way, there's still at least one more in December, but more on that later. Busy month!)

(Rika) (By the way, I've always been one who said that the wet shirt scene did nothing for me.... but I have to admit that in slow motion it does have its charms.) Oh, my! I, too, was one of the unbelievers. I must have been blind!! (Lisa) What are you trying to do to me by posting a picture like that without a warning? File that one away for serious right left dicussion which I am hankering to get going with that motivation before me! (Tress) Mari! I'm jealous!! Looks like ODB is more than ready for your celebration and is bringing you some party favors! ;-) (Evelyn) "Is that a sausage in your pocket...or are you happy to see me." (Rika) I had an entirely different Darcy-walking-fast capture selected, but when I saw that one I knew that to post it would be akin to tossing a raw steak into a room full of hungry wolves. Couldn't resist. ;-) Well, that's certainly enough to get the blood boiling! I think there's no right/left discussion needed. We should all be in agreement now!!

Oh goodie! I see Georgie has appeared. I'd say the scenery around the lake has increased tremendously. ;-) That's some picture, Rika. But Ev, I thought we decided he was packing luncheon meats in those. The craft services table was badly placed. Great party but will probably be hung over in the morn.

Happy Birthday, Mari! It looks like someone is happy to see you (see repsonse #290) Holy Cr@p! LizBeth

(Karen) But Ev, I thought we decided he was packing luncheon meats in those. Well, Evelyn did make reference to a sausage! Now, if only I could give my final exam tomorrow on Firthology I'd be all set. Some v. interesting essay questions come quickly to mind.....

(Lisa), WHAT THE HELL WAS ELIZABETH THINKING??? SHE HAD HIM IN THE WOODS RIGHT AFTER THAT FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! DITCHING THE GARDINERS WOULD HAVE BEEN A SIMPLE MATTER, Heehee. Have you read Pride & Promiscuity? (Evelyn), "Is that a sausage in your pocket...or are you happy to see me." LOL! Poor baby on that white horse must feel that tight squeeze. ;-)

From my coctail lounge throne, I bring you: Bond's shaking up martini world ``Shaken, not stirred.'' Ah, the very words -- as recognizable and assertive as, well, a dry martini. Except James Bond's favorite libation, a shaken vodka martini, isn't really a martini after all. As any martini purist will tell you, Bond (despite his elegant tuxedo and debonair double-agent demeanor) makes two egregious cocktail errors: using vodka instead of gin and shaking the drink instead of stirring. Double bad for 007. Or is it? ''I will shake it if they want me to. I'm not going to tell someone how to drink their martini,'' says New York's Dale DeGroff, a career bartender whom many consider the world's authority on cocktails. ``But for myself, I want a gin martini stirred. The classicist still orders them that way.'' It's not that the Bond martini is bad -- after all, today's cocktail culture prefers a vodka martini over the classic gin version. It's just that the Bondtini is a little show-offy, verging on the vulgar. ''It's tacky,'' says Jose Arbona, a bartender at the venerable Oak Bar at the Plaza hotel in New York. 'He does it for the sole purpose of disputing the tradition. For him, it's his way of saying, `I'm going to do it my way.' '' OSTENTATIOUS His way, indeed. From the outset, the Bond martini has been a curiously ostentatious thing. Ian Fleming gives the recipe for Bond's favorite tipple in Casino Royale : ''Just a moment,'' Bond tells the barkeep. ``Three measures of Gordon's, one of vodka, a half measure of Kina Lillet. Shake it very well until it's ice-cold, then add a large, thin slice of lemon peel. Got it?'' Bond names this drink the Vesper, in honor of the beautiful double-agent Vesper Lynd. Still, it's not a classic 'tini. Neither are the other vodka stingers Bond sips on film: a Smirnoff martini in Dr. No, a vodka and Cinzano martini in Thunderball, a Russian vodka martini made with Noilly Prat in You Only Live Twice and plain vodka cocktails in GoldenEye. For a character of such refined taste (so knowledgeable about the world of spirits and wine, he is able to expose two waiters as assassins when they fail to identify Chateau Mouton-Rothschild '55 as a claret in the film Diamonds Are Forever ), how does one explain this cocktail oddity of Bond? ''It's just a quirk of his,'' says food writer John Mariani, who wrote a piece about Bond food and drink for this month's Wine Spectator. ``It's silly, but rather cool.'' And perhaps cool, as in icy cold, is exactly what Bond was going for. ''Shaken gets the drink colder,'' says David Geiseng, head bartender at Lucky's Lounge. ``Today, martinis are shaken unless they ask for them stirred. Diehard martini drinkers are very picky, though. They order them how they want them.'' VODKA FROUFROU Indeed, cocktails, even martinis, are all over the place. Vodka martinis now sport all sort of froufrou: sour apple flavor, chocolate, caramel, raspberry and even mint flavors -- heresy to the drinkers of the classic gin martini (stirred, not shaken). ''The martini has come to mean something else these days,'' says DeGroff, the master mixologist whose new book, The Craft of the Cocktail, has just been released. ``The classic martini is fading slightly. It's always been an evolving drink. It's still evolving.'' But to gin martini drinkers, there is something wholly wrong about Bond's martini. A shaken martini, while colder than a stirred martini, aerates or ''bruises'' the gin. Little shards of ice, created by the vigorous shaking, also get through the strainer and into the martini glass, which eventually waters down the drink. Third, a shaken martini dissolves the vermouth, robbing the drinker of the familiar vermouth slick. Carlos Villalobos, bartender at the Bar at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Boston, makes a martini as famous for its taste and mouth-feel as it is for the precise, almost clinical approach to creating them. Villalobos' martini is ``stirred 12 times, not 11 or 13.'' DeGroff agrees that the classic gin martini must be stirred not shaken. ''You want the martini heavy, silky and cold,'' he says. ``That's what you get when you stir properly.'' BUBBLES Shaking, DeGroff says, produces bubbles that aerate the alcohol. While this helps spread flavors across the tongue quickly, it isn't proper for a martini. His rule about shaking and stirring is simple: ``If you have spirits only, stir. If you have fruit juices and other sweet ingredients along with spirits, shake.'' With Die Another Day open, the Bond martini is certainly on the mind. But Bond is poised to throw another curveball within his cocktail culture. His drink of choice in the new movie? It appears to be a mojito. One can only hope that he doesn't try to make it with vodka instead of rum. BY GREG MORAGO The Hartford Courant

(Lisa) WHAT THE HELL WAS ELIZABETH THINKING??? ...I would have grabbed the man...dragged him across his expansive gravel drive and had him in the shubbery... (Rika) Lisa, I think you have the right idea.... Please remember this when writing the next chapter of ALRTH. :-) You tell her Rika! Enough of this Long Road stuff, how about Any Old Shrub Will Do?

Indie Movie World Salutes 'Amazing,' 'Heaven' (Reuters) - The ensemble comedy "Lovely & Amazing" and the 1950s period drama "Far From Heaven" headed the list of contenders for the independent movie world's version of the Oscars web sites), organizers said on Wednesday. The lineup for the 18th annual Independent Spirit Awards was dominated by small films with tiny budgets and relatively unknown actors. Perhaps the biggest name on the list was "Friends" co-star Jennifer Aniston (news) who was nominated for her lead role in the comedy "The Good Girl." The Spirit Awards honor films based on such criteria as original, provocative subject matter, budget and the degree of independent financing. The lack of edginess knocked out current box office smash "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," the biggest independent movie of all time. The $5 million romantic comedy, which has sold more than $213 million worth of tickets in North America, picked up just one nomination. Star and screenwriter Nia Vardalos will compete for best debut performance. "It's a different kind of aesthetic than the more challenging, artier other kinds of independent films," said Dawn Hudson, executive director of west coast branch of the Independent Feature Project, the event's organizer. Indeed, nominated films covered such territory as guns in America ("Bowling for Columbine"), lesbian romance ("Kissing Jessica Stein") and serial killers ("Dahmer"). PARTY ON THE BEACH The awards will be handed out on March 22, the day before the Academy Awards, during a leisurely luncheon underneath a marquee on Santa Monica Beach. There is usually some crossover between Spirit and Oscar nominees (which will be announced on Feb. 11), but none of this year's Spirit winners, including "Memento" and "In the Bedroom," nabbed Oscars the next day. Leading this year's pack with six nominations was "Lovely & Amazing," a comic take on female insecurity that marks the second feature for director Nicole Holofcener. She was nominated for both director and screenplay. Three of its stars were also nominated: Catherine Keener (female lead), Emily Mortimer (supporting female) and youngster Raven Goodwin (debut performance). Additionally, the film will compete for best feature, opposite "Far From Heaven," "The Good Girl," the kinky office sex drama "Secretary" and the Midwestern family drama "Tully." "Far From Heaven," a 1950s drama starring Julianne Moore (news) as a housewife who catches her husband (Dennis Quaid) in bed with another man, received five nominations overall. Moore was cited for female lead, Quaid for supporting male, Todd Haynes for director and Edward Lachman for cinematography. "The Good Girl," the Hollywood morality tale "ivans xtc." and "Tully" each picked up four nominations. Other directing nominees were Gus Van Sant ("Gerry"), Bernard Rose ("ivans xtc.") and Joe Carnahan ("Narc") Keener, Moore and Aniston will compete for the female lead prize against Maggie Gyllenhaal ("Secretary") and Parker Posey ("Personal Velocity"). In the male race, nominees were Derek Luke ("Antwone Fisher"), Graham Greene ("Skins"), Danny Huston ("ivans xtc."), Jeremy Renner ("Dahmer") and "Campbell Scott (news) ("Roger Dodger"). Scott, who was previously nominated for "Big Night" and "Mrs. Parker and the Vicious Circle," said he hoped "Roger Dodger's" three nods would boost the movie's profile. The $1 million black comedy marks the debut film for director Dylan Kidd, who will compete for screenplay and best first feature. Scott plays the title character, a sleazy ad executive who mentors his teen-aged nephew. He spent three weeks shooting the film and received scale wages. "I like that guerrilla film thing," Scott said in an interview. "It keeps me awake."

(indieWIRE: 12.12.02) -- The IFP Independent Spirit Awards announced the nominees for its 2003 awards to be held once again in Santa Monica and hosted for the third consecutive year by director John Waters. Lions Gate Films took the lions share of nominations with director Nicole Holofcener's "Lovely & Amazing" receiving the most nominations of any film, including Best Feature, Best Director, and Best Screenplay, Best Female Lead for Catherine Keener, Best Supporting Female for Emily Mortimer and Best Debut Performance for Raven Goodwin. The West Coast-based distributor received 10 nominations in all with Steven Shainberg's Sundance 2002 favorite "Secretary" also nabbing a Best Feature nomination as well as Best First Screenplay for Erin Cressida Wilson and Best Female Lead for Maggie Gyllenhaal. Also faring well was Todd Haynes' Douglas Sirk-inspired '50s story "Far From Heaven," which received five nominations including Best Feature and Best Director. Julianne Moore took a Best Female Lead nomination for her role in the Focus Features film, while Dennis Quaid received a Best Supporting Male nod. Fox Searchlight's "The Good Girl" has four of the specialty distributor's seven nominations with Jennifer Aniston named as a Best Female Lead contender as well as John C. Reilly for Best Supporting Male. Miguel Arteta's film also received a Best Feature nomination, while fellow Fox feature "Kissing Jessica Stein"'s Heather Juergensen and Jennifer Westfeldt were named in the Best First Screenplay category. IFC Films' box office titan "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" took a Best Debut Performance nom for Nia Vardalos, who also wrote the Joel Zwick-directed film. IFC's Alfonso Cuaron-directed Mexican hit "Y Tu Mama Tambien" was named a Best Foreign Film contender. New York City-based Magnolia Pictures' "Interview with the Assassin" was nominated in three categories for the Woodstock Film Festival-winning picture. The film will compete for Best Feature, Best First screenplay for writer/director Neil Burger, and Best Cinematography for Richard Rutkowski. Other triple nominees include "Narc," "Personal Velocity," and "Roger Dodger."

(BarbS) Enough of this Long Road stuff, how about Any Old Shrub Will Do? LOL!!Buh-bye Aunt and Uncle, slap the dang carriage horse on the a** and tear up the topiary!

Full list: BEST FEATURE Far From Heaven The Good Girl Lovely & Amazing Secretary Tully BEST DIRECTOR Joe Carnahan, Narc Todd Haynes, Far From Heaven Nicole Holofcener, Lovely & Amazing Bernard Rose, ivans xtc. Gus Van Sant, Gerry BEST SCREENPLAY The Good Girl, Mike White Lovely & Amazing, Nicole Holofcener Roger Dodger, Dylan Kidd Thirteen Conversations About One Thing, Jill Sprecher and Karen Sprecher Tully, Hilary Birmingham and Matt Drake BEST FIRST FEATURE (Award given to the Director) The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys, Director: Peter Care Interview with the Assassin, Director: Neil Burger Manito, Director: Eric Eason Paid In Full, Director: Charles Stone III Roger Dodger, Director: Dylan Kidd BEST FIRST SCREENPLAY Hysterical Blindness, Laura Cahill Igby Goes Down, Burr Steers Interview with the Assassin, Neil Burger Kissing Jessica Stein, Heather Juergensen and Jennifer Westfeldt Secretary, Erin Cressida Wilson JOHN CASSAVETES AWARD (Given to the best feature made for under $500,000) Charlotte Sometimes Dahmer ivans xtc. Personal Velocity The Slaughter Rule BEST DEBUT PERFORMANCE (Actors in their first significant role in a feature film) Bob Burrus, Tully America Ferrera, Real Women Have Curves Raven Goodwin, Lovely & Amazing Artel Kayaru, Dahmer Nia Vardalos, My Big Fat Greek Wedding BEST SUPPORTING FEMALE Viola Davis, Antwone Fisher Jacqueline Kim, Charlotte Sometimes Juliette Lewis, Hysterical Blindness Emily Mortimer, Lovely & Amazing Julianne Nicholson, Tully BEST SUPPORTING MALE Alan Arkin, Thirteen Conversations About One Thing Ray Liotta, Narc Dennis Quaid, Far From Heaven John C. Reilly, The Good Girl Peter Weller, ivans xtc. BEST FEMALE LEAD Jennifer Aniston, The Good Girl Maggie Gyllenhaal, Secretary Catherine Keener, Lovely & Amazing Julianne Moore, Far From Heaven Parker Posey, Personal Velocity BEST MALE LEAD Graham Greene, Skins Danny Huston, ivans xtc. Derek Luke, Antwone Fisher Jeremy Renner, Dahmer Campbell Scott, Roger Dodger BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY Far From Heaven, Edward Lachman Gerry, Harris Savides Interview with the Assassin, Richard Rutkowski Narc, Alex Nepomniaschy Personal Velocity, Ellen Kuras BEST FOREIGN FILM Bloody Sunday - Ireland Director: Paul Greengrass The Fast Runner (Atanarjuat) - Canada Director: Zacharias Kunuk The Piano Teacher (La Pianiste) - France Director: Michael Haneke Time Out (L'Emploi du temps) - France Director: Laurent Cantet Y Tu Mama Tambien - Mexico Director: Alfonso Cuar�n BEST DOCUMENTARY Bowling for Columbine, Director: Michael Moore The Cockettes, Directors: Bill Weber and David Weissman Devil's Playground, Director: Lucy Walker How to Draw a Bunny, Director: John Walter Stevie, Director: Steve James

I just saw John Waters in Miami at Basel Art. "Far From Heaven" headed the list of contenders for the independent movie world's version of the Oscars web sites), This film has everything they love. Homosexuality and mixed race love. The two turn-offs for my DH as far as films to go see. ;-)

(BarbS) Enough of this Long Road stuff, how about Any Old Shrub Will Do? (MariaT) LOL!! Buh-bye Aunt and Uncle, slap the dang carriage horse on the a** and tear up the topiary! ROTF....thanks for my first big laugh of the day! Glad I didn't have coffee in my mouth as it would have ended up on my monitor! The visuals were just too much...;-D

(MariaT) tear up the topiary You know, I like that. That might even have staying power. To AFG and HWM and ODB, we can add TUTT... ...when he looks like that, I just want to drag him away and TUTT! ...what I would give for a chance to TUTT! ...do you suppose Lisa will ever get around to having them TUTT? ...don't mind us, we're going out to TUTT. Don't mind me either, I'm stopping now and fully intend to TMAFTS (tear myself away from this screen) It's lunchtime and I got a hankerin' for a Googie.

Evelyn, thanks for bringing Damian and the boys; I do like men who are Easy Company!:-) And Moon, molto grazie, sorella mia, for bringing Georgie! My birthday would not have been complete without him. Hey, he's been talking up Como on all the chat shows; he likes to ride his mororcycle in the Alps. Brace yourself for a wave of female tourists!:-) "All right, now back to my horse quickly, and to Mari's party straightaway!" RIKA! Or should I say, Eureka!!! That pic brings new meaning to the phrase, "Colin is a leftist." ;-) Mymymymymy . . .Great captures, honey, thanks! Poor Lizzie B. didn't have the benefit of RikaVision when she turned this guy down, did she?;-) Linda, thanks for bringing Mark Darcy. We had a tete-a-tete (or should I say a TUTT TUTT?), and it turns out he really does like a woman who smokes like a chimney and drinks like a fish! Yes, I am back in style!:-) Thanks LizBeth, Barb and Elizabeth for the good wishes! And thanks to everyone who made this such fun. You are a great, good humored group of women and it's a pleasure to hang out with you all for a part of each day.:-)

HAPPY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARI What a wonderful party you had, and so many wonderful guests!!!! What a lucky, lucky girl you are. KAREN TRUE GENIOUS Absolutely hysterical. Ladies, the talent cannot be equaled anywhere. You are all fantastic and amazing. (Barb) OMG...I CANNOT believe that picture. If I did not already lust for his luscious little self, that one would do it..."Back to my horse quickly"? Honey, yer horse ain't got nuthin' on you. OMG picking myself up off of floor. How did I miss that in 100 or more viewings? I feel sorry for the horse, he has definitely been surpassed here. Great pic Rika. Thanks for the Spirit Awards news ladies. (Barb) You know, I like that. That might even have staying power. To AFG and HWM and ODB, we can add TUTT... ROTFLOL All hail the King of TUTT.

Moving on... Last night, Dennis Quaid was on Leno and they showed a clip of Far From Heaven. You know, it looked better on TV than it did on the big screen. Must be because I'm more used to seeing films set in that era on TV than in a theater. It actually looked very right and not pretentious. A newborn video/DVD classic.

Thanks for the Independent Awards list, Karen. Anyone see Lovely and Amazing? We did because my Joe has a BIG crush on Catherine Keener. I pretty much liked it, though all the daughters were a bit annoying. Mari - What a wonderful birthday celebration for you!! You deserved everyone of the wishes. Memories from long ago and far away...

I have moved Ada's message to: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/movies/51/new

Thanks Karen for the list. What happened to Julianne Moore for Best Lead...or CB? Me thinks these folks have a short memory..they don't remember this summer's Road to Perdition and About a Boy. Tom Hanks, Paul Newman Jude Law...forgotten. [I know these two are not IF , but I haven't seen them on any short list.]

Here's an interesting one: MALIBU, Calif. (Reuters) - Actor Nick Nolte (news) pleaded no contest Thursday to driving under the influence of the "date rape" drug GHB and was placed on three years' probation with orders to remain in drug rehabilitation for 90 days. Under the plea agreement accepted by Malibu Superior Court Judge Lawrence Mira, prosecutors dropped a second misdemeanor drug count stemming from Nolte's Sept. 11 arrest, when he was pulled over by police in Malibu, dazed and drooling, behind the wheel of his car. If the 61-year-old actor completes the program successfully he must then enter a state-run drug education program within six months. Nolte also was fined $500 and warned that if he violated the terms of his probation he faced up to six months in county jail. The full story is here: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20021212/people_nm/nolte_1 There is a photo of him in court and what struck me immediately was how much the ravages of excesses have altered his physical appearance. He reminded me of Richard Harris. Very sad. But possibly expected. We used to have 'famous' celeb's and authors come to my university campus and have what was dubbed 'lunch talks' and Nolte came to one. Of course the hall was packed, mostly with young women. He took questions and answers. He sounded like a jerk to be honest and he brought a beer with him that he drank at the podium. Total turn off IMO.

(Ev) What happened to Julianne Moore for Best Lead...or CB? Julianne Moore was nommed. Evidently, they didn't think as highly of CB's but I also didn't notice any actors being nommed from a "foreign film," which is what "Heaven" is. Doubt if it matters though. Me thinks these folks have a short memory..they don't remember this summer's Road to Perdition and About a Boy. Tom Hanks, Paul Newman Jude Law...forgotten. [I know these two are not IF , but I haven't seen them on any short list.] I think you've answered your own question. These actors/films were not indies. Actor Nick Nolte (news) pleaded no contest Thursday to driving under the influence of the "date rape" drug GHB Very sad, but also a little funny. Can't imagine anyone slipping him the drug in order to have their way with him. ;-)

Date rape drugs are somthing guys give to girls, not themselves, Nick!

WOW! Some Party! You all aren't getting your deposit back on the rental of the hall, are you. Happy Belated Birthday! Nita, Odile and Mari! Loved the Cawfee Talk! Ptooey, Ptooey! Poor Minerva Driver. Don't want to make Babs mad. She could get your movie deep sixed for a L....O...N....G.....time in Hollywood. That was a roll of pound coins in Darcy's pocket for the carriage parking meter. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. I'm patiently waiting in the TUTT queue. Read Andrew Davies is remaking Brideshead Revisited.

Kathleen, where did you hear about "Brideshead"? That is one of my FAVORITE Masterpiece Theatres! Loved Jeremy Irons in that! (Anthony Andrews was a little light in the loafers for me. Then, as the Scarlet P, I really began to question him!) Tell More, please! LizBeth

I *know* we have a topic for this, but it could also be odds and ends. I was Christmas shopping last night and went into the ABC Shop, checked out Ioan Gruffudd's stuff, I admit it, and I almost bought The Forsythe Saga DVD since I foolishly missed it when it was aired here. Am still wondering if I should. It was $49.95 Aussie which is about $28 USD. Now that is one time when I can say we got it here first!

Happy Birthday Elizabeth I asked this fine young man to pop by and bring you a present If you need some ideas, what to make from it, just ask this lady or perhaps Rikas captures from Mari�s birthdayparty can be of some assistance. btw, I think Evelyn has taken up this hobby as well.

Dearest Elizabeth! I'm sorry to start your birthday by messing up. The images worked, when I tested them. I don't want to take up space by messing up again, so here's a listing of the pictures 1. DQ 2. Playdough 3. Mae West Once again: Deeply apologize!

One last try Elizabeth (it worked on the help-board):

Looks like I missed a couple of birthdays (and parties).... Happy Birthday (a little late), Mari & Nita! And an on-time wish for Elizabeth! Have a great Birthday! Ta!

I'm here early for the party this time. Happy Birthday Elizabeth! Lizbeth - Re: Brideshead revisited. Sunday Times on the 1st. Ecosse Films (Mrs. Brown, Charlotte Gray, Monarch of Glen)hired Davies. He will emphasize religious contrast between Ryder and Marchmain family. "Is God more important than love?". Minimize Oxford Days. Thought Teddy Bear a bit silly. He'll lose the narrator. Already much howling about his approach by previous writer (John Mortimer - Rumpole of Bailey), big mistake etc. No dates or actors set. Finally, since Mary Murphy brought up Stanley Tucci again, and Edie Falco was discussed above. Must say I saw them in Frankie and Johnny on Broadway (the one where they are both el nude-o and going at it on stage as the curtain goes up and stay nude for 15 or 20 minutes while proceeding with the play). They were both absolutely tremendous in it. Much better than Pacino and Pfeiffer. Also Tucci could give Fiennes a run in another department (big winkie).

Elizabeth, No obstacle was too big��.. Too high�� Too low�� Too wide�. Or too scary�.. �.for me to conquer to come and celebrate your birthday. First I took a�.. then I hopped a�� I thumbed a ride with�.. and I bought a�.. and rode it until I got a flat. Then I resorted to�.. and I finally made it! Now, I just need a little nap and I�ll be all set to party! In the meantime, until I wake up��

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ELIZABETH

LOL, Lisa! How did you ever find that pic? Amazing. I have some shopping to do for our BTW, message #332 has been moved to the Ralph Fiennes board, as should all discussion of Maid in Manhattan. http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/40/new

Birthday Greetings Elizabeth. Have Fun

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ELIZABETH! No fancy graphics, but heartfelt wishes for a wonderful day!

Seeing as how you're such a late night gal, Elizabeth...

Lisa, wonderful graphics and birthday post. Shows how we'd go to the ends of the earth for Firth ;-)! Happy Birthday, Elizabeth! Hope you like the wet look on your birthday! Have a great day!

Sorry about the missing pic, Elizabeth. Ding, dong, I think maybe this time, I've got it right!

Have a GREAT birthday Elizabeth! And thanks to everybody who is still catching up with mine :)

Happy Birthday Elizabeth! Lucky Friday the 13th!! I cannot post pics, so: Insert perfect imaginary picture of ODB here.... ;-)

Grrr. . . trying AGAIN

Dearest, loveliest Elizabeth . . .forgive the technical screwups!

I won't embarrass myself any further. :-( Have a happy one anyway. Leona, Kathleen, and Pam, thanks for your good wishes! And Murph, thanks for the lovely pic--what happy memories it brings back--even the Darcy bear is in there! I think that was taken at the first official meeting of the NJ Firth fans.

Okay, I think I got my computer back up & running (it melted from response #290, LOL) in order to say: Happy Birthday Elizabeth!!! From a graphics challenged Drooleur :)

Elizabeth, hope you have a very happy birthday. And since I dare not try any graphics, just insert another imaginary pic of ODB here.....maybe that lovely shower scene where he's stepping out ....and he's holding a very large birthday cake just for you ....with a very big grin on his face ....and the towel is nowhere to be found! now what he would be doing with a cake in the shower I don't know but you get the idea. and I'm getting carried away so I'll stop now. Anyway, have a great day!

Elizabeth: I wasn't sure what could possibly interest you in racing, you being such a cultured lady and all, that I decided to investigate. Luckily, I happened on this fine-looking guy, who said he'd personally take you into the pit and give you a complete lube job and clean out your exhaust. ;-) Shhhhhh! No one tell my wife!

We've had flowers and a bouquet of wire whisks in that auspicious spot, so why not a cake. ;-) Sorry, no interviews could be scheduled at such short notice. :-( But am expecting another bad boy to join us soon. ;-)

Coming off my perch and diving into the great underground world... ;-) I am imagining it is your neck, my dearest loveliest Elizabeth

Elizabeth, for your birthday here's a lovely pair of eyes to drown in:

You've got all the bad boys, Elizabeth!!!! My computer is kaput and I am borrowing one and can't stay long, but I wanted to stop by and wish you a very happy birthday, Elizabeth. Hope you have a very firthfilling day. :-D

LOL at the Santa picture Karen! BTW, who is ODB calling a ho??? ;-D

(Rika)Elizabeth, for your birthday here's a lovely pair of eyes to drown in: I hope it's okay for a lurking birthdayguest to take a dive as well. I just could not resist. (Be still, my beating heart). And Karen, I see you have put my all time favourite Santa on the main page. I never used to believe in him, but you have just converted me!

Happy Birthday, Elizabeth. Enjoy your day!! Thanks for all the lovely pictures, ladies. Thanks for our Santa on the main page, Karen. Puts me right in the spirit.

Happy Birthday Elizabeth, I hope one (or all!) of the "bad" boys were v.v. good! And I have GOT to stop blowing by the main page, I was going to back up in O&E to find the Santa picture I missed but I've figured it out in time....

HAPPY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY ELIZABETH AND MANY MANY MORE. sorry, graphically illiterate. You lucky, lucky girl so many men to fit into 24 hours. (Mari) And Murph, thanks for the lovely pic--what happy memories it brings back--even the Darcy bear is in there! I think that was taken at the first official meeting of the NJ Firth fans. Are all you lovely ladies in NJ. So am I where are you located? Is anyone near Norwood? e-mail if you'd like. I'd love to meet up with someone if you're near. I'm going to sit on Santa's lap on the front page and tell him what I want. I've been good so I should get it. Dream on. Great pic Karen. Great job ladies. Love the Elvis'. LOL.

Oh my my, an embarrassment of riches. Elvii (with military escort)! Dario (sooooo hot)! Darcys, both Fitz and Mark! The sopping-wet Vicomte! Nessie! Paul! And where do you find those logos and cakes? One of these things is not like the others; that Pufftard needs to lose 20 pounds, shut up and act. ;) Aaagh! My eyes! It's been a good day all the way around. The wife of one of my coworkers had their first child today, as I laughingly predicted eight months ago when he told us his big news. Psychic friends network! Now if only they'd pay me 3.95 per minute... Thanks so much for the good wishes today from each and every one of you, and the constant stream of "fellow"-ship and entertainment all the time. I don't feel older at all!

Hope it was happy and your expected guests showed up!! Best wishes!

Oh boy! Have I had a lot to catch up on since I've been "away". Excuse my commenting on a few "old" things.... (Rika, re Sound of Music) Any other cherished beliefs I can destroy while I'm at it? No, please!....you've done quite enough damage for me already. ;) (Mari) The absolute low point was when Almodovar came up for one of his prizes and the first thing out of his mouth was "awards are very commonplace for me." Oooh, that is bad. Nonetheless I loved the movie. The music was wonderful. The 38 page notes package I received when I saw it helped a bit, too. (Mari) I didn't see her and Stanley Tucci recently on stage in Frankie and Johnny. . . I think others have taken over their roles now. I just saw it last weekend...they were excellent! Beware anyone who plans to see it though....there is complete nudity in the first 10-15 minutes. The lights are low for most of the time, but doesn't hide anything. Rosie Perez (yuch) and Joey Pants takes over Dec 29, I think. (Mari, re DDL) He is sort of quiet, and not nearly as articulate as I would have thought. I do like him very much as an actor. I unfortunately missed the CR Show, but he and Scorsese did a Q&A after my GoNY screening. Difficult to tell how articulate he was when Scorsese kept interupting him when the moderator or audience member would ask him a question. MS even acknowledged it once, but kept doing it at times, or would get ancy if he was trying not to. Did that happen with the CR Show? His was the best performance by far in GoNY. Actually appreciated it more hearing him speak after the movie and realize how different he had become.

Happy birthday Elisabeth! As I'm only just beginning to learn HTML I hope this works ;-)

Mari and Elisabeth....I'm beside myself for missing your birthdays and the parties! Had I realized, I would've had an extra glass of Chardonnay at a party on Thurs to toast you (though what I had was plenty I'm sure ;)). At least Linda Richman kept you entertained, ROTFL! And as a belated bday present Mari, maybe I can elicit some interesting info from one of your bday guests on Monday ( assuming those silly subway and bus workers don't strike...otherwise may have to walk part of the way to get there).

We've had flowers and a bouquet of wire whisks in that auspicious spot, so why not a cake. ;-) Why not, indeed. However, I opt for a clear shot in that spot.:-))

(Dorine)And as a belated bday present Mari, maybe I can elicit some interesting info from one of your bday guests on Monday I hope so! Girlfriend, even if you have to take a pack mule, it will be worth it.:-) Hope there's no strike anyway. Will be waiting for a full report. Be sure to ask about TEOR, if you get a chance. Here's a rundown of the Los Angeles Film Critics' Association's 28th annual awards: Film: About Schmidt (Runner-up: Far From Heaven) Actor: (Tie) Daniel Day-Lewis, Gangs of New York; Jack Nicholson, About Schmidt Actress: Julianne Moore, Far from Heaven and The Hours (Runner-up: Isabelle Huppert, The Piano Teacher) Supporting Actor: Chris Cooper, Adaptation (Runner-up: Christopher Walken, Catch Me If You Can) Supporting actress: Edie Falco, Sunshine State (Runner-up: Kathy Bates, About Schmidt) Director: Pedro Almodovar, Talk to Her (Runner-up: Todd Haynes, Far from Heaven) Screenplay: About Schmidt (Runner-up: Adaptation) Foreign Film: Y Tu Mama Tambien (Runner-up: Talk to Her) Animated Film: Spirited Away (Special citation: Lilo & Stitch) Score: Elmer Bernstein, Far from Heaven (Runner-up: Philip Glass, The Hours) Production design: Gangs of New York Cinematography: Far from Heaven Documentary: The Cockettes (Runner-up: Bowling for Columbine) New Generation Award: Lynne Ramsey

I don't know about that About Schmidt movie. Ever since seeing the trailer, I have been less than enthusiastic about seeing it, and if I had to pinpoint an exact point...is when he mentions the "old woman" next to him. Blech! :-(

Thanks Mari for the information.

(Mari) Girlfriend, even if you have to take a pack mule, it will be worth it.:-) Have no fear, I have contingency plans ready to go. ;-) Film: About Schmidt Jack Nicholson, About Schmidt Glad you printed this as I wanted to comment on this and emphatically disagree. It was a good movie, but by no means was the best of anything. They definitely should have picked at least Nicholas Cage over Jack. NC was great as the twins in Adaptation. Very interesting movie as well. And Philip Seymour Hoffman could run rings around Jack in Love, Liza (which may not be released yet). That was some performance IMO, too. Granted Jack was not his usual hard nosed character, and was good, but no special accolades need be given. Screenplay: About Schmidt (Runner-up: Adaptation) Adaptation was by far the better of the two IMO.

v. sad~~~~~ ExxonMobil Ends Sponsorship of Masterpiece Theater Fri Dec 13, 6:17 PM ET BOSTON (Reuters) - ExxonMobil Corp. will soon close the book on more than 30 years of sponsorship of Masterpiece Theater, the public television show that serialized classics such as "David Copperfield" and "I, Claudius." "We feel that the time has come for us to look at new and alternative philanthropic opportunities," including environmental work, public health, and other educational efforts, said Sandra Duhe, a spokeswoman for ExxonMobil, which generated revenue of $212.9 billion in 2001. "This is just a matter of refocusing our efforts," said Duhe, who added the program's content had nothing to do with the decision. The program's sole sponsor since its inception in 1971, ExxonMobil has contributed more than $250 million to the program and other shows during that time. The oil giant plans to fund the show through 2004, said Jeanne Hopkins, the program's spokeswoman. Masterpiece Theater said it was seeking new funding but had not yet found a sponsor, according to Hopkins. The show's title is ExxonMobil-Masterpiece Theater, which appears on the spine and title page of a book featured in the show's opening credits. "It's certainly very disappointing," Hopkins said. "They've been a major, unparalleled funder and we are hoping we can find others who would be interested."

Dorine, I must have missed something.....Where are you going?

ExxonMobil Corp. will soon close the book on more than 30 years of sponsorship of Masterpiece Theater "We feel that the time has come for us to look at new and alternative philanthropic opportunities," including environmental work, public health, and other educational efforts, said Sandra Duhe, a spokeswoman for ExxonMobil, which generated revenue of $212.9 billion in 2001. The program's sole sponsor since its inception in 1971, ExxonMobil has contributed more than $250 million to the program and other shows during that time. The oil giant plans to fund the show through 2004, said Jeanne Hopkins, the program's spokeswoman. Masterpiece Theater said it was seeking new funding but had not yet found a sponsor, according to Hopkins. Should we begin a writing campaign? Hopefully Masterpiece Theater will find another sponsor, but perhaps ExxonMobil should be reminded of the importance of corporate sponsorship to PBS, and how much viewers appreciate the quality of programming offered by MT. Although I understand there are many worthwhile charities for ExxonMobil to sponsor, I am stunned and saddened by this announcement.

Closing tags, I hope and sorry for the double post.

Big names up for London Film Critics awards Hugh Grant, Kenneth Branagh, Samantha Morton and Sam Mendes are among the nominees for the London Film Critics Circle Awards. Halle Berry, Jude Law, Michael Caine, Jack Nicholson and Peter Jackson are also among the nominees. All Or Nothing, About A Boy and Sweet Sixteen will compete for the British Film Of The Year award while The Road to Perdition, Lantana, About Schmidt, Donnie Darko and Bowling for Columbine are nominated for Film Of The Year. Ruth Sheen, Emily Watson and Shirley Henderson are the contenders for British Actress in Supporting Role while Jude Law, Kenneth Branagh and Paul Bettany will fight it out for the male version. Samantha Morton, Lesley Manville and Miranda Richardson are nominated for Best British Actress while Halle Berry, Kerry Armstrong and Stockard Channing are up for Best Actress. In the Best British Actor category the nominees are Chiwetel Ejiofor, Hugh Grant and Ralph Fiennes. The Best Actor nominees are Michael Caine, Jack Nicholson and Al Pacino. The Best British Director category sees Sam Mendes take on Christopher Nolan and Mike Leigh. Best Director is between Pedro Almodovar, Phillip Noyce and Peter Jackson. The winners will be announced at a ceremony in London on February 12.

American Film Institute reveals top ten films of the year The American Film Institute has named its top ten films of the year. The list is usually a good indication of what films may feature in the Oscar nominations. [Ed note: This is only the second year they've made up this useless list.] The AFI has decided to only release the list alphabetically and has declined from saying what it thinks is the number one film. The list is: About a Boy; About Schmidt; Adaptation; Antwone Fisher; Chicago; Frida; Gangs of New York; The Hours; The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers; The Quiet American.

Bafta awards to have 'virtual red carpet' Bafta bosses are considering using a "virtual red carpet" for the 2003 Orange British Academy Film Awards. This year's event was a wash-out after heavy rain caused a strange white substance to froth up on the carpet and ruin many of the female guests shoes. Bafta has called in special effects experts to see if they can create a "virtual red carpet," using some kind of lasers for the ceremony in February. "I am incredibly anxious to do something different this year," Bafta boss Amanda Berry tells www.variety.com. "That carpet cost us an absolute fortune." The 2003 Orange British Academy Film Awards take place on February 23.

Masterpiece Theater said it was seeking new funding but had not yet found a sponsor,.. The end of an era....:-(( Agree with Kathy. Let's explore email addy for Exon. Viewership has gone down. I still think Monday nights was better. Going up against S&TC or The Sopranos is fruitless. BTW I thought Andrew Davies and Sue Birtwistle really nailed a good one with Wives and Daughters. Last night's episode was a winner. Lots of our old friends there....Lady Catherine (replicating her P&P role!), Bridget's Tom Hollander. Justine Waddell was terrific, and I'd like to know what kind of wine Francesca Annis drinks...the woman is ageless. Must be due to living with Rafe:-)) Glad to see award panels haven't forgotten About A Boy.

This is shaping up to be one of those non-consensus years. THE PIANIST SWEEPS BOSTON FILM CRITICS AWARDS BEST FILM: "The Pianist" BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM: "Y Tu Mama Tambien" BEST DIRECTOR: Roman Polanski, "The Pianist" BEST DOCUMENTARY: "The Kid Stays in the Picture" BEST ACTOR: Adrien Brody, "The Pianist" BEST ACTRESS: Maggie Gyllenhaal, "Secretary" BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR: Alan Arkin, "Thirteen Conversations About One Thing" BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Toni Collette, "About a Boy" and "The Hours" BEST SCREENPLAY: Charlie and Donald Kaufman, "Adaptation" BEST NEW FILMMAKER: Peter Care, "The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys" BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY: Edward Lachman, "Far from Heaven"

I think critics' lists typically are all over the place. Thought I'd read that NY Film Critics list was supposedly released yesterday too, but I haven't found it yet. BTW, I am looking forward to see The Pianist too. I can see how Maggie G will get a lot of indie recognition but IMO it won't translate to anything bigger, especially with all those other actresses from The Hours taking up the slots. It wasn't half as significant as Hillary Swank's a couple of years ago, and the film was pretty uncomfortable to watch at times. About as unmainstream as it gets. ;-)

NEW YORK FILM CRITICS CIRCLE AWARDS ___________________________ Best Picture: Far From Heaven Best Actor: Daniel Day-Lewis, Gangs of New York Best Actress: Diane Lane, Unfaithful Best Supporting Actor: Dennis Quaid, Far From Heaven Best Supporting Actress: Patricia Clarkson, Far From Heaven Best Director: Todd Haynes, Far From Heaven Best Screenplay Adaptation: Charlie Kaufman and Donald Kaufman Best Cinematographer: Edward Lachman, Far From Heaven Best Foreign Film: Y tu mam� tambi�n, Alfonso Cuar�n Best Non-Fiction Film: Standing in the Shadows of Motown, Paul Justman Best Animated Film: Spirited Away, Directed by Hayao Miyazaki,Buena Vista Pictures Distribution and Nibariki Best First Film: Roger Dodger, Artisan Entertainment Special Award: The restoration of Metropolis, by Kino International

(I hope this is not a repeat - I don't think I see it.) National Board of Review (12/11/02) Top 10 1. The Hours 2. Chicago 3. Gangs of New York 4. The Quiet American 5. Adaptation 6. Rabbit-Proof Fence 7. The Pianist 8. Far From Heaven 9. 13 Conversations About One Thing 10. Frida Top 5 Foreign 1. Talk to Her 2. Y Tu Mama Tambien 3. 8 Women 4. City of God 5. El Crimen del padre Amaro Picture: The Hours Actor: Campbell Scott - Roger Dodger Actress: Julianne Moore - Far From Heaven Supp. Actor: Chris Cooper - Adaptation Supp. Actress: Kathy Bates - About Schmidt Director: Philip Noyce - The Quiet American, Rabbit-Proof Fence Ensemble: Nichoals Nickelby Screenplay: Charlie Kaufman - Adaptation, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, Human Nature Breakthrough Actor: Derek Luke - Antwone Fisher Breakthrough Actress: Maggie Gyllenhaal - Secretary Directorial Debut: Rob Marshall - Chicago Documentary: Bowling for Columbine Foreign Film: Talk to Her Everson Award Film History: Annette Insdorf - Indelible Shadows: Films and the Holocaust Animated: Spirited Away Career Achievement: Christopher Plummer Special Achievement: George Clooney - Confessions of a Dangerous Mind Special Award for Visionary Cinematic Achievement: George Lucas Career Achievement (Composer): Elmer Bernstein Career Achievement (Cinematography): Conrad Hall Humanitarian Award: Sheila Nevins Special Recognition (films celebrating freedom of expression): Ararat, Bloody Sunday, The Grey Zone, Rabbit-Proof Fence -------- Belated "Happy Birthday" to Mari and Elisabeth and other recent honorees.

Thank you ladies for the "lists." Screenplay: Charlie Kaufman - Adaptation, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, Human Nature I love CK! I've seen all the foreign films on the NBoR but none of the Top 10's. LOL! Best Picture: Far From Heaven It is almost stereotypical how NY picks their PC films. And highly predictable. :-( I hope Masterpiece Theater finds a sponsor soon. Very sad news indeed.

28th Annual Los Angeles Film Critics Association Awards Best Picture About Schmidt (New Line) Directed by Alexander Payne Runner-Up: Far From Heaven (Focus Features) Directed by Todd Haynes Best Actor Daniel Day-Lewis, Gangs Of New York (Miramax) and Jack Nicholson, About Schmidt (New Line) Best Actress Julianne Moore, Far From Heaven (Focus Features) and The Hours (Paramount) Runner-Up: Isabelle Huppert, La Pianiste (The Piano Teacher) (Kino) Best Supporting Actor Chris Cooper, Adaptation. (Columbia) Runner-Up: Christopher Walken, Catch Me If You Can (DreamWorks) Best Supporting Actress Edie Falco, Sunshine State (Sony Classics) Runner-Up: Kathy Bates, About Schmidt (New Line) Best Director Pedro Almod�var, Talk To Her (Sony Classics) Runner-Up: Todd Haynes, Far From Heaven (Focus Features) Best Screenplay Alexander Payne & Jim Taylor, About Schmidt (New Line) Runner-Up: Charlie Kaufman, Adaptation. (Columbia) Best Foreign-Language Film Y Tu Mam� Tambi�n (IFC Films) Directed by Alfonso Cuar�n Runner-Up: Talk To Her (Sony Classics) Directed by Pedro Almod�var Best Documentary The Cockettes (Strand) Directed by Bill Weber and David Weissman Runner-Up: Bowling For Columbine (UA) Directed by Michael Moore Best Cinematography Ed Lachman, Far From Heaven (Focus Features) Best Production Design Dante Ferretti, Gangs Of New York (Miramax) Best Music Score Elmer Bernstein, Far From Heaven (Focus Features) Runner-Up: Philip Glass, The Hours (Paramount) Best Animation (Feature) Sprited Away (Disney) Directed by Hayao Miyazaki Special Citation: Lilo & Stitch (Disney) Directed by Chris Sanders and Dean DeBlois New Generation Award Lynne Ramsey, Morvern Callar

I well I finally found The Sopranos on TV here. It is into the latest season although I'm not sure where we are at with it. The episode I saw last night had Christopher being 'made' and struggling with making the 6 grand a week he needs to pay the other guy. They hold up a charity concert at a university. ;)

(LA Critics) Best Supporting Actress Edie Falco, Sunshine State (Sony Classics) I wonder how much of this award is an acknowledgement of her exquisite performance in The Sopranos.(I know, I know...different media...) I saw Sunshine State...an OK movie (v. PC, Moon;-), but I don't think her performance warranted an award. Now Carmela.....

(Evelyn) but I don't think her performance warranted an award. Au contraire! I had to think long and hard as to why she was in the Supporting Category, as I thought she and Angela Bassett starred in it. But as it was an ensemble piece, they had to put everyone into that Supporting category. I thought she was marvelous.

I think it's funny that most of these awards are listing Charlie and Donald Kaufman as co-writers of Adaptation. If you know anything about the movie . . .you'd know why that's so funny.;-) I too like CK, Moon. Don't worry, you'll catch more of those top tens--unless you're a film critic or Dorine, you couldn't have seen them yet as most haven't opened.;-) And where is Dorine with her Georgie report? Tapping foot, looking at watch . . .;-) Time Magazine has a round-up of all the holiday films. They love Gangs of NY, Catch Me If You Can, LOTR, The Pianist, and Nicholas Nickleby. They hated The Hours, and you don't even want to know what they wrote about Maid In Manhattan.;-)

(Mari), And where is Dorine with her Georgie report? Have I been away? Is that Georgie as in OUR Georgie? ;-D

Yes, OUR GEORGIE! She's going to a preview screening of Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, followed by Q& A with Mr. Wonderful . . .sigh . . .

Dorine you are a lucky girl! (Mari), you couldn't have seen them yet as most haven't opened.;-) And the ones that have, I have decided to rent instead. ;-)

From the Sunday Observer: Gangs of Los Angeles Bruising, bad-tempered movie producer Harvey Weinstein is at loggerheads with director Martin Scorsese over their epic $100m movie, out this week in the US. And if it proves a flop, the industry sharks are circling, reports Lawrence Donegan Any new film by the celebrated director Martin Scorsese is worthy of attention but as his Gangs of New York, a sweeping tale of conflict between immigrants in nineteenth-century Manhattan starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Daniel Day-Lewis and Cameron Diaz, is released in the United States this week, it is a subplot, the story of the film rather than the film itself, that is attracting most attention. A scriptwriter would call this subplot the back story and it goes like this; for the past three years production of the film has been dogged by endless tales of problems with the budget, script and editing, and at the heart of the trouble is a studio executive called Harvey Weinstein, a man who has had the temerity to interfere with the artistic vision of a cinematic genius. In the past few days Weinstein, a corpulent, cigar-smoking New Yorker, has been portrayed to the American public as a cartoon version of a power-crazed movie mogul. It is an image that is not far from the truth. As is Hollywood's way when faced with bad publicity, Weinstein and Scorsese released a statement saying they had a terrific working relationship, which no one believed, not even, it seems, the men themselves. 'I've been a bad boy on movies. But I was good with Marty,' said Weinstein. Oh really? Scorsese, who had been trying to get Gangs of New York made for more than two decades, said later: 'I found Harvey really imposing on me... the pressure was hard. Very hard.' The wait for next weekend's reviews notwithstanding, the apparent agony that has been the making of Gangs of New York is over for Scorsese. For Weinstein and Miramax, the production company he runs with his brother Bob, it is just beginning. The film, which cost more than $100 million to make, is the biggest gamble of their careers, not to mention a startling shift in approach for a company that made its name by taking chances on small, arthouse movies for a fraction of what Scorsese's epic has cost. Weinstein insists Miramax's financial future is not at stake at the box office, but there are many who believe its credibility as a major force in the American film industry is. Nay-sayers point to its less than stellar 2002. A series of box-office bombs has dented profits, prompting stories of arguments between Weinstein and Michael Eisner, the head of Miramax's parent company, Disney. Then there was the collapse of Talk magazine, financed by Weinstein and run by Tina Brown, with estimated losses of about $25m. Just as damagingly, stories of Weinstein's erratic behaviour and temper tantrums have become a staple of the diary columns, a trend that reached its peak last week with the publication by the New Yorker magazine of a 16-page profile of the producer. It was, by common consent, the hatchet job to end all hatchet jobs. Its writer, Ken Auletta described 50-year-old Weinstein as someone who 'at times appears about to burst into fury, his fists closed, his teeth clenched, his large head shaking as he loses the struggle to contain himself' before going on to list the bullying, finger-jabbing, thrown ashtrays and toe-to-toe confrontations with the heads of rival studios. Even Weinstein, who had co-operated with Auletta in the writing of the piece, conceded that his temper was 'the thing I hate most about myself'. 'It's like Ariel Sharon - you can't be a lion of the desert and then not govern properly.' Like everything else about Weinstein, this frankly uncharacteristic mea culpa has divided the film community. His many friends plead forgiveness on his behalf, arguing that his mercurial temperament is part of what makes him a genius. His enemies say they have heard his apologies before; that with success has come hubris and, more ominously, that Weinstein has lost his touch. It says much about Weinstein's standing in the film community these days that there are many in Hollywood who fervently hope that Scorsese's film is a stone-cold flop. The name Miramax is an amalgamation of the names of the Weinstein brothers' parents, Miriam and Max. Founded in 1979 with proceeds from the sale of Weinstein's concert promotion company and fuelled by the brothers' desire to introduce their taste for edgier, more intelligent films to a wider audience, the company was not an immediate success. Indeed its first legitimate hit didn't come for nine years, when Weinstein bought the rights to Stephen Soderbergh's Sex, Lies and Videotape for $1m. The film took $25m at the box office. Further successes quickly followed, especially after Disney bought the company from the Weinsteins for a reported $80m - a deal which gave the brothers continued independence from studio interference and the wherewithal to bet on their hunches. Pay attention during the credits of the most successful independent films of the late Eighties and Nineties and you will often spot Miramax's squat white-on-black logo. Cinema Paradiso, My Left Foot, The Crying Game, The English Patient, Pulp Fiction, Shakespeare in Love - all of them are Weinstein productions. It was a streak which earned the company some 40 Oscars and financial success. Everyone loves a winner, goes the old Hollywood saying, but even during the halcyon days, there were people in the film industry who made an exception for Weinstein. There was grumbling on several fronts about his allegedly bullying behaviour; his hardball approach to making deals and, especially, about his aggressive campaigning to secure Oscar recognition for his pictures. Most famously, he fell out with Steven Spielberg in the run-up to the 1999 Oscars when it was claimed that Miramax had leaked stories that were damaging to Spielberg's Saving Private Ryan in an effort to win Academy members' votes for Shakespeare in Love. Similarly, Weinstein was accused of orchestrating a whispering campaign during last year's Oscar season against DreamWorks's A Beautiful Mind (which won Best Picture) in an effort to bolster the hopes of his own film, In The Bedroom. Perhaps all this unpleasantness would have been forgotten had Weinstein come back in 2002 with a string of successes, but so far he hasn't, which makes the coming holiday period all the more crucial. As well as Gangs of New York, Miramax is releasing Chicago, a film version of the stage musical starring Ren�e Zellweger, The Hours, directed by Stephen Daldry, and George Clooney's debut behind the camera, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind. Of the four, The Hours, which has been named film of the year by the National Board of Review, and Chicago are attracting decent pre-release buzz. However, opinion on Gangs is mixed, with some observers suggesting it is too long and dark to find a wide audience in the US. For his part, Weinstein is publicly bullish, as always. 'Yes. I am very frightened,' he said recently when asked about the company's prospects. 'I'm frightened I'm going to have a better year than last.' There was a time when this kind of flippancy would have raised a smile around the lunch tables of Los Angeles and New York. No longer. As one senior Hollywood executive, anticipating Weinstein's downfall, told the New Yorker last week: 'This is a town that smells blood. When they smell blood they circle like sharks. In Harvey's case there is a sense that his streak has waned, that the magic may be gone.'

Here are the Broadcast Critics nominees: Nominees for 2002 (Gala dinner on January 17, 2003 at the Beverly Hills Hotel): The BFCA traditionally nominates ten films for Best Picture. There are three nominees in each of the other categories, all of which are listed below in alphabetical order. Best Picture About Schmidt Adaptation Catch Me If You Can Chicago Far From Heaven Gangs of New York The Hours The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers The Pianist Road to Perdition Best Actor Daniel Day Lewis - Gangs of New York Jack Nicholson - About Schmidt Robin Williams - One Hour Photo Best Actress Salma Hayek - Frida Nicole Kidman - The Hours Diane Lane - Unfaithful Julianne Moore - Far From Heaven Best Supporting Actor Chris Cooper - Adaptation Alfred Molina - Frida Paul Newman - Road to Perdition Best Supporting Actress Kathy Bates - About Schmidt Meryl Streep - Adaptation Catherine Zeta-Jones - Chicago Best Acting Ensemble Chicago The Hours My Big Fat Greek Wedding Best Director Roman Polanski - The Pianist Martin Scorsese - Gangs of New York Steven Spielberg - Catch Me If You Can, Minority Report Best Writer Charlie Kaufman - Adaptation, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind Alexander Payne, Jim Taylor - About Schmidt Nia Vardalos - My Big Fat Greek Wedding Best Digital Acting Performance Dobby - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets Gollum - The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Yoda - Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones Best Young Actor/Actress Kieran Culkin - Igby Goes Down Tyler Hoechlin - Road to Perdition Nicholas Hoult - About a Boy Best Animated Feature Ice Age Lilo and Stitch Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron Spirited Away Best Family Film (live action) Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets The Rookie Tuck Everlasting Best Picture Made for Television Door To Door Live From Baghdad Martin and Lewis Best Documentary Bowling for Columbine The Kid Stays in the Picture Standing in the Shadows of Motown Best Foreign Language Film Monsoon Wedding Talk to Her Y Tu Mama Tambien Best Song "Father and Daughter", Paul Simon - The Wild Thornberrys Movie "Hero", Chad Kroeger - Spider-Man "Lose Yourself", Eminem - 8 Mile Best Composer Phillip Glass - The Hours Howard Shore - The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers John Williams - Catch Me If You Can, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, Minority Report

Forgot to highlight the Martin & Lewis nom above.;-) Interesting article on Harvey, Karen. Liz smith wrote an impassioned defense of him in the NY Post yesterday. (Observer) And if it proves a flop, the industry sharks are circling And the sharks are aided and abetted by articles like this one, written by someone who hasn't even seen the film yet. They manufacture stories where none exist. I keep reading about how The Quiet American is causing all sorts of controversy over here. Really? Nobody in the general public has even seen it yet, so how could it be controversial? The story about holding back its release date? It's true, but Miramax itself is spreading that story to anybody who will listen. It's called publicity. However, opinion on Gangs is mixed, From whom? A few self-promoting Internet critics? No newspaper has published its reviews yet. And the magazine reviews (e.g., Time) are great. with some observers suggesting it is too long and dark to find a wide audience in the US. And these observers would be . . . the competing studio heads, perhaps? People flocked to the butt-busting Harry Potter flicks and LOTR.

the story of the film rather than the film itself, that is attracting most attention. I am not impressed with the previews of GoNY. All the actors seem like caricature, and there is something wrong with the wardrobe too. Scorsese has a big ego and so does Harvey. The tension between these two must have been something. I was looking forward to Gangs, but frankly, there are a lot of films that I will see before it. (Mari), It's called publicity. (Harvey), 'I'm frightened I'm going to have a better year than last.' Crystal clear message. Best Digital Acting Performance Heehee. goes to Jack

by articles like this one, written by someone who hasn't even seen the film yet "It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." One of my all-time favorite lines. The trailer did it a great disservice, as well as most of the publicity with LeoD. I'm glad to read that DD-L is really the star of it and everyone else pales in comparison. I didn't feel like seeing Titanic Redux, which is what the trailer looked like to me. ;-) Thanks for the Broadcast Critics' noms. Looks like there was a tie in the Best Actress, as there are 4 names. Gaah! I can't believe Robin Williams got in there. He and the movie were (I thought) pretty well vilified. That 'Acting Ensemble' category looks like a joke to me. Imagine putting the acting of say, The Hours anywhere near that Wedding crapola. Surely that is the category for LOTR. Pah! And Digital Acting?!!! Bwahahahaha! Surely, there should be a posthumous award for Jiminy Cricket too. ;-) But take heart, ladies, I spy a category for one of Colin's films for next year: Best Family Film. ;-)))))))))))

(Moon) and there is something wrong with the wardrobe too. Care to hunt down the Italian costume designers?

I rarely decide whether or not I'll see a film based on the preview trailer. Increasingly, trailers are not a representative slice of the film; they're all about marketing to the widest audience possible. Did anyone catch DDL interviewed by Katie on Today this morning?

Here is a bit from Todd McCarthy at Variety: GANGS OF NEW YORK "The enormously ambitious picture that has emerged after some 30 years of on-and-off effort and more than two years of production falls somewhat short of great film status, but is still a richly impressive and densely realized work that bracingly opens the eye and mind to untaught aspects of American history...as it almost always has with Scorsese films, the mass public will likely resist the violence and tough, unsentimental stance of the picture, resulting in hard-won midrange B.O....A scary, galvanizing presence here with his massive moustache and chops, plastered-down hair and one good eye, Day-Lewis succeeds in making Bill the Butcher into a surprisingly rounded figure one can understand without ever forgetting his malevolence...More robust than before and sporting light whiskers, DiCaprio is a dynamic physical and emotional force throughout, while Diaz vibrantly plays the redheaded wildcat." Sounds like a tough one to watch. But also a must see. I got this from Guy Flatley's web site. Guy used to write for the NY Times among other places, and he has a great film site. Worth a visit. He is having fun now with actors and remakes. http://www.moviecrazed.com/guymovies.html

The New Yorker review is really a nasty one on Gangs, especially for the newly beefy Leonardo. "The Hours" and "Catch Me If You Can" fare better: http://www.newyorker.com/printable/?critics/021223crci_cinema

(article) However, opinion on Gangs is mixed, (Mari) From whom? A few self-promoting Internet critics? No newspaper has published its reviews yet. And the magazine reviews (e.g., Time) are great. (article) with some observers suggesting it is too long and dark to find a wide audience in the US. (Mari) And these observers would be . . . the competing studio heads, perhaps? People flocked to the butt-busting Harry Potter flicks and LOTR. While not many people have written about it, more than just critics have seen it. There have been many industry screenings (more in LA than NY and other cities, I think) and I have yet to hear anyone say it was "grrrrrreat!". General consensus about an excellent performance from DDL. In my screening, there was a discernible (almost) indifference to the movie as a whole. Some people weren't too into the violence as would be understandable. But I wasn't overwhelmed, as it seemed others weren't, but did like it for the most part. And for a movie to come from Scorsese and cost $125 million, I expect to be blown away. But despite the lack of excitement over the story and most main performances, I do think the cinematography was fantastic.

"In Harvey's case there is a sense that his streak has waned, that the magic may be gone.'" They're green with jealousy. Harvey isn't the paragon of virtue, but he's been awfully good to the British Film industry. (Dorine)But despite the lack of excitement over the story and most main performances, I do think the cinematography was fantastic. Sadly the latter won't put bums on seats. I'll go....but don't expect me to like DDL. The guy stays out of the industry for five years, has to be begged to take the role and then cleans -up at awards time. Grrrrrrr.

Here's Richard Corliss's GONY review from Time: Maybe nobody told Martin Scorsese the American film epic was a dead form. Or maybe Scorsese was too stubborn to give up a project he had nurtured since 1970, when the epic was still the genre du jour and, on Belfast's mean streets, Protestants and Catholics were spilling one another's blood in a replay of the New York City Irish-Anglo gang wars of the 1860s, which Scorsese was itching to dramatize. Then Star Wars changed the landscape of the epic from our own martial planet to a galaxy far, far away. Today when audiences go into the past, they want fantasy. They're not looking to pay for history lessons. Thus Gangs � with so many detours in its making, and abraded by Scorsese's well-publicized struggle with Harvey Weinstein of Miramax Films � may be the epic's last gasp. If so, it is a gasp that sings, howls, like a grand tenor at an Irish wake. Set in the gaudy, pestilential Five Points section of lower Manhattan, Gangs begins with an 1846 street fight: Bill the Butcher (Daniel Day-Lewis) and his Nativists against Priest Vallon (Liam Neeson) and his horde of Hibernians. It ends in 1863 with another rumble � Bill now battling Priest's vengeful son Amsterdam (Leonardo DiCaprio)--as the city explodes in riots that escalate from a protest against Civil War conscription to a four-day massacre. In between are violent scenes played out with a ferocity as erotic as it is deranged; murder and mutilation, when performed by men who have been close, are acts more intimate than sex. There's a triangular conflict � an evil man, the rival he has treated like a son and the woman (Cameron Diaz) they both have loved and used � with three stars at the top of their form. DiCaprio's winsomeness has matured into a wily assurance that doesn't rely on bravado. Diaz, stifling the giggles, displays a grave, bruised beauty. Day-Lewis struts with the insane intensity and twisted grin of early Robert De Niro; the Butcher loves the monster he has become. For most of its galloping 2-hr. 45-min. span, Gangs confidently enlarges this triangle to include the sweeping vision of a New York suddenly swarming with immigrants. Displaying an urgency and elegance unmatched by any other living auteur, Scorsese finds drama in visual contrast: a door in a dark, noisy room that is kicked open to reveal a silent, snow-laden street. One amazing panorama shows men coming off a ship from Ireland, being immediately conscripted and outfitted in Northern blue, then put on a troop ship � all in a single shot that ends with a view of the troop ship's cargo: 20 coffins on the dock. As the newcomers gain political power through their numbers, the question isn't whether an Irishman can be elected to city office but whether he can survive his victory. Ruthless toughs mingle with 1860s gentry in a colossal mix of Scorsese's Mean Streets and The Age of Innocence. Gangs is the director's proclamation that all his movies about belligerent young men are modern-dress versions of a crucial melodrama that shaped urban America. Gangs is the prototype for every one of Scorsese's films; it just happens to come after them. At the film's climax, the Draft Riots engulf the city as Bill and Amsterdam line up for their final face-off � a Celtic clan skirmish that has little to do with the larger atrocities. The point may be that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of corpses when anarchy breaks loose. This daring, perhaps confusing declaration of irrelevance suggests that the epic is a form a director like Scorsese must subvert even as he invokes it. But it doesn't erase the sordid splendor of Scorsese's congested, conflicted, entrancing achievement. --By Richard Corliss

Here's the BBC's review. "Gangs of New York" arrives soaked in the sweat and tears of one of cinema's greatest living artists. Martin Scorsese has nurtured this brutal, astonishing creation through a 25-year development process and a troubled shoot. The result is the culmination of a lifetime's worth of obsessions - with violence, God, loyalty and the US. It both astounds and enthrals, providing a riveting exploration of America's dark heart. New York, 1846 - a brutal gang battle turns the snowy ground muddy with blood. Fifteen years later Amsterdam Vallon (Leonardo DiCaprio) returns to the Five Points district of Manhattan to avenge his father's death at the hands of Bill "The Butcher" Cutting (Daniel Day-Lewis). Leader of the anti-immigrant 'Native Americans' gang, Bill rules the neighbourhood with fear. Still, he happily employs this street-savvy unknown, who begins to find the father he lost in the man he must kill. "Hamlet" is an obvious influence on the screenwriters and the plot isn't the only factor reminiscent of the stage. There's an expansive, histrionic aspect to Day-Lewis' phenomenal performance as the arch villain, and a theatrical quality to the dialogue, which frequently appropriates biblical language. There's nothing stage-bound about the action, though - the violent, gripping spectacle that plays out against a perfectly realised recreation of 19th century New York. DiCaprio quietly impresses, as does Cameron Diaz as his pickpocket squeeze, but their story is secondary to Scorsese's thematic concerns, as a simple tale of revenge escalates into a portrait of class, race and religious war - an incendiary assault on the foundations of the so-called land of the free. The finished picture may not be as assured or well-paced as Scorsese's best works - "GoodFellas", "Taxi Driver" - but it has the energy and passion of "Mean Streets" writ large. A work of staggering ambition, grandeur and terrible beauty. In a word: majestic. "Gangs of New York" opens in UK cinemas on Friday 10th January 2003.

Sorry, these reviews don't look that lengthy when you see them at the source, but here they take up a lot of room. Will post URLs instead, or key excerpts, as Murph has done.

(Mari) Interesting article on Harvey, Karen. Liz smith wrote an impassioned defense of him in the NY Post yesterday. Hmmm....at times, when a question to a guest or a guest mentions Harvey or a veiled reference to his editing "prowess" is made, it is usually in a sarcastic manner, and the snickering of audience members is quite audible. Although IMO, many times he appears to be right, despite his tactics. I haven't read any of the above reviews (thanks for posting them Mari)..... (Moon) and there is something wrong with the wardrobe too. Not sure what you mean exactly. One other thing I neglected to mention above, the production design was really incredible IMO. *Definitely* Oscar worthy. And if I'm not mistaken, the costumes were historically accurate as worn by the various Gangs. The reviews above may dispute that, but if they did such amazing research to find and use old recordings of Wordsworth or someone from that time reading Wordsworth (forget which) to help DDL develop his speech pattern accurately, would think they have fairly accurate costumes as well. Oh, and I almost forgot.....it really bugged me that they spend so much money on this (enough to feed a medium-sized country), and they can't get scar makeup to stick completely. Check out the first love scene with LDC and CD. There's a close up of Amsterdam's chest (note I didn't say LDC's chest ;))... as she runs her fingers along it, you can see the ends of a couple of scars seem to be loosely attached.

Re: the movie, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind....I enjoyed it immensely as it seemed everyone in the theater did. We don't usually clap after the movies...only this and Chicago as of late. Very interesting story. Yet another great screenplay by Charlie (and not Donald) Kaufman. Sam Rockwell did a fantastic job as Chuck Barris. Had him nailed. (SR was also at the Q&A) Great directing debut by George Clooney. Interesting vision and use of a variety of styles. Said he stole styles and shots from every director there ever was (his words) ;-). Actually he did run down quite a list of directors he "borrowed" from. A variety of styles are used throughout the film that may seem a bit disconcerting to some, but it worked for me. Quite a few full rear shots of SR (and probably his double) that may not have been entirely necessary. In afterthought, clarification of that would've been an interesting question ;-). One very funny scene like that with Drew Barrymore, though. Wasn't too enthused to know Julia Roberts was in this as wasn't thrilled with her in Ocean's 11, but really liked her in this. Great use of music, too. May actually go see this one again.

I noted that recently a review of Maid in Manhattan was moved from here to the Ralph Fiennes topic. To be consistent, shouldn't the GoNY discussion should be taking place on the Daniel Day-Lewis topic?

Ever try to teach old dogs new tricks?

Rika! LOL! (Moon) and there is something wrong with the wardrobe too. (Dorine), Not sure what you mean exactly. And if I'm not mistaken, the costumes were historically accurate as worn by the various Gangs. Those stripes and colours, belts, etc. They looked to me like they were drawn for cartoon. But you've seen it and if you say they look authentic, then I'll go with it.

The Miami Herald Scorsese takes 'Gangs' strife in stride BY RENE RODRIGUEZ NEW YORK - In March 2001, Miramax Films president Harvey Weinstein flew to Rome's legendary Cinecitta Studios, where Martin Scorsese was nearing the end of nearly five months of filming on Gangs of New York, to confer with the director about the production. At the end of their meeting, Scorsese recalls, ``Harvey got up to leave and said, `You know I love the picture, I love you, but don't forget I want this picture out for Christmas.' 'I said, `Absolutely!' Then Harvey said, 'I mean Christmas 2001.' And I said, 'Oh.' '' As it turned out, Scorsese didn't have to rush to finish his long-awaited epic, which opens Friday. After Sept. 11, everyone involved agreed last year was not the proper time to release a film about New York City circa 1863, when gangs of Irish immigrants and xenophobic Nativists clubbed, chained, stabbed and axed each other in all-out rumbles; when gambling, corruption and public executions in the city's Lower East Side were rampant; and when an uprising by the Irish, infuriated by unfair Civil War draft policies that favored the rich, led to one of the most ferocious riots in the country's history, with widespread looting, burning and lynchings that left 119 people dead. The delay was a boon for Scorsese, who used the extra year to whittle down his movie from an original running time of three-plus hours to a more manageable two hours and 40 minutes. During that time, though, the film was dogged by persistent rumors of behind-the-scenes struggles between the filmmaker, who had been trying to make Gangs since 1978 and was understandably passionate about the material, and Weinstein, who was concerned that the running time and Scorsese's penchant for graphic violence might limit the $110 million movie's potential box-office gross. `THE FINAL CUT' The constant speculation that played out in the media was, as Scorsese puts it, ''creatively draining.'' But if the filmmaker did succumb to any pressure to tone down the bloodshed, or cut the film shorter than he had anticipated, he's certainly not talking openly about it. ''There will be no director's cut of the movie on DVD,'' he says. 'The press has been asking me, `Is this the film you wanted? Did they force you to cut?' But no, this is it. Whatever you see on the screen is, after a long process, the final cut. There are no other scenes I actually shot that I think are worth adding back into the picture. They would only weaken the pacing of the film.'' The plot of Gangs centers on Amsterdam (Leonardo DiCaprio), an Irish-American out to avenge his father's death at the hands of Bill the Butcher (Daniel Day-Lewis), the killer who holds sway over the no-man's-land known as the Five Points (an area of lower Manhattan occupied today by New York's Federal Court House and City Hall). The movie does contain a romantic element, in the form of Cameron Diaz as a pickpocket who falls for Amsterdam. Still, the R-rated film's overriding tone is brutal. Titanic, this is not. But while Gangs certainly contains its share of bloodletting, the movie is not nearly as violent as you might expect, considering the subject matter and Scorsese's tendency to feature gruesome imagery. There again, though, the director claims it was by design. ''By now, I don't think I have to prove to anyone that I can do violence,'' he says, chuckling. ``I can do violence. But what's the point of doing an almost three-hour movie with tons of violence? I tried to do it less graphically than what I normally do. I tried to do it through editing, sound effects and the implications of violence. You never see knives entering; you never see it graphically. That was a major decision. ``It might have been different if I had made the film in the 1970s when I was younger. But I think the sense of violence in the film -- that violence is prevalent in this world -- permeates every scene. It is the main way these characters express themselves, because they have to make themselves heard, and no one will listen to them.'' Having a big-budget film scrutinized by the press and labeled as ''troubled'' before it's even released is a rite of passage most major filmmakers undergo sooner or later. It happened to Steven Spielberg with Jaws, Francis Ford Coppola with Apocalypse Now, Brian De Palma with Bonfire of the Vanities and James Cameron with Titanic. ''This movie has had more scrutiny than any of my other pictures,'' Scorsese, 60, says with a sigh. ``Usually, that kind of controversy happens early or midway through a filmmaker's career. At least it came a little later to me, and I think I've learned enough in 25 years of doing films to prepare me for it. I don't know if I would have been able to complete this thing if it had been my third or fourth film. I don't know if I would have been ready.'' OSCAR TALK Whatever its fate at the box office, early critical reaction to the movie has been strong, with Scorsese some pundits' early favorite to win his first Academy Award for Best Director. The filmmaker laughs when he hears he's this year's sentimental Oscar favorite. ``The sentimental thing is very sweet. I really like that. What can I say? It could be the other way, too, that they hate you and don't want to talk to you. ``But this business with the Oscar . . . I guess if I didn't receive an Oscar as Best Director in the 1970s, or for GoodFellas in 1990, it just wasn't in the cards. It was quite a bit of a disappointment on GoodFellas. However, I understand that the nature of a picture like that is pretty nasty, and the Academy has to endorse a picture, in a sense. They have to be very careful. At least the trade-off is that I've gotten to make some very interesting films in my career. So I'm not complaining.''

shouldn't the GoNY discussion should be taking place on the Daniel Day-Lewis topic? I understand the logic but I have appreciated what has been posted. I don't follow DDL, don't check his board and think the topic goes beyond just him. This movie has significant hype around it and the MS - HW angle seems of general interest. Though I suppose I should broaden my view, "unforget" some of the topic areas I have hidden in the interest of time and see if there is a HW topic area (insert facetious winkie!) *sigh* And I'm sure in the broader world of Spring there is a perfectly wonderful movie discussion going on...this just seems such a convenient place for general conversation about multiple topics likely to be of mutual interest. But if that is not the intent for this area, I'll work on those new tricks. ;-)

I had to insert this in. I was just reading the CNN review on LoTR: Two Towers when this apropos popped up. Love the last line tho'! Between the lightsaber-wielding Yoda in the latest "Star Wars," the quivering Dobby in the latest "Harry Potter," and now the pop-eyed Gollum, the powers-that-be may have to announce a new category for the Academy Awards: maybe something like Best Non-Human/Computer Generated Performance of the Year. And no, neither Madonna nor Keanu Reeves could be considered... although it would be tempting.

I don't follow DDL, don't check his board and think the topic goes beyond just him. I totally agree with the above, and I personally don't mind that the discussion is here; however, couldn't the same things be said with respect to Maid in Manhattan? I'm pretty sure it has at least one or two stars besides RF. ;-)

(Rika) I noted that recently a review of Maid in Manhattan was moved from here to the Ralph Fiennes topic. To be consistent, shouldn't the GoNY discussion should be taking place on the Daniel Day-Lewis topic? The reason for the MIM move was because the discussion was going to focus on RF anyway; therefore, that's where the discussion should be. GONY is a slightly different can of worms in that it is a major film release, having had lots of publicity for years. When I posted the article about DDL at his topic, it was because it was *about* him. I don't expect GoNY to consume this topic, and don't see why it is necessary to post every review of it. To that extent, I do agree with BarbS, but she undermined her argument with the "inconvenience" line of logic. ;-) Hated it when my staff would answer: 'but that's the way we've always done it.' *rolling eyes* (CNN) And no, neither Madonna nor Keanu Reeves could be considered... although it would be tempting. LOL! Was Keanu even in a movie this year? I sure didn't miss him.

(Karen) I do agree with BarbS, but she undermined her argument with the "inconvenience" line of logic. ;-) LOL Darn, I *hate* when I DO that -- can never leave well enough alone ;-) --going off now to practice Mr. Collins shushing move ;-)

LOL! Was Keanu even in a movie this year? I sure didn't miss him. ] LOL!!! I just thought that was perfect. That Madonna movie sunk before it opened. And I know how much you liked the original!

I'm interested in the Martin Scorsese angle on the film. Definitely, not DDL or his side-kick;this movie transcends the stars IMO. Katie Couric called it an epic & homage to NY. Personally, I'm grateful for all the reviews and articles. We seem to post lot of other miscellaneous tripe here.

From a newsletter I get from Tom O'Neil of Gold Derby.com. It's long, but I think interesting - background on the critics and their choices: ***********************************************8 12/18/02: Who Roughed Up "Gangs" at the N.Y. & L.A. Film Critics' Awards & Why Were the New Yorkers So Far from Julianne Moore? -- By Tom O'Neil: host, GoldDerby.com Except for that half of a Best Actor bone that Californians tossed to Daniel Day-Lewis, why wasn't there more support for "Gangs of New York" -- plus other presumed Oscar frontrunners "Catch Me If You Can," "Antwone Fisher," "The Hours," "Chicago" and "Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" -- when the New York and L.A. film critics recently decided their award champs? And while "Far From Heaven" pulled off the biggest sweep in the history of the New York Film Critics Circle, how come voters were so far from the star whose performance was at the heart and cinema soul of it: Julianne Moore? The N.Y. and L.A. film critics' awards always seem to be mysterious, even illogical, to outsiders, but they're really quite revealing, especially this year. Despite reports that the most recent batch of critics' kudos failed to offer any clarity to the Oscar race, the opposite is true. For the first time in many years, the same two films were the finalists for Best Picture at both awards -- "Far from Heaven" and "About Schmidt." "Heaven" ended up prevailing on the east coast, "Schmidt" on the west. No other pix came close. Their victories ordained them officially as the "In the Bedroom" contenders of this year: i.e., those little arty movies that are most likely to take on the biggies in the Globes' and Oscar's top races. The fact that "Gangs of New York" and other heavy hitters weren't cited was expected. Last year none of the three Oscar frontrunners for Best Picture -- "A Beautiful Mind," "Moulin Rouge!" or "Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring" -- had been major players at the critics' voting powwows months earlier. Oscar frontrunners seldom are. The critics see themselves as key players in the Academy Awards derby, true, but not in terms of predicting who'll win. They push Oscar ponies that might not make it otherwise. It's doubtful that Oscar voters would've taken note of Denzel Washington's perf in "Training Day" last year if the Los Angelenos hadn't hailed it first, just as they'd discovered Hilary Swank in "Boys Don't Cry" two years earlier. Two years ago the New Yorkers championed the Oscar success of Marcia Gay Harden ("Pollock") and Benicio del Toro ("Traffic"). This year the Californians may advance Chris Cooper ("Adaptation") and Edie Falco ("Sunshine State"); the New Yorkers are backing two "Far From Heav n" stars - Patricia Clarkson and Dennis Quaid. When Golden Globe nominations come out tomorrow morning, expect to see "Gangs" come out swinging tough, ready for a fight that it will probably win easily. Why? More than any other awards group -- even the Oscars -- the Globes adore epics. And this year, save for the latest "Lord of the Rings" installment (part 1 was a loser last year -- Globe and Oscar voters simply HATE sci-fi), "Gangs" is the only epic in the arena. Also, it has three other things going for it: 1.) critics love it even if they didn't vote for it at their own kudos; 2.) it'll probably be a huge box-office hit; 3.) it has a director at the helm (Martin Scorsese) who's long overdue for a big Hollywood bow. The Oscarless film icon has lost the academy's Best Director prize race THREE TIMES ("GoodFellas," "Raging Bull," "Last Temptation of Christ") and wasn't even nommed for some of his greatest pics like "Taxi Driver" or "After Hours," both of which won the Palme D'Or at the Cannes Film Festival. "The Globes will anoint where the critics overlooked," says GoldDerby.com pundit Thelma Adams of Us Weekly, a member and former chair of the New York Film Critics Circle. For example, she expects "Chicago" to "come out very strong as an Oscar contender, boosted by that comedy-musical category" at the Globes, which honors dramas and comedies/musicals separately. The L.A. and N.Y. critics' awards did establish Julianne Moore as the clear Best Actress frontrunner -- at least for now. (Remember what happened to Sissy Spacek last year?) But, hey, wait a minute -- what about Diane Lane, you ask? Didn't the "Unfaithful" star beat Moore at the New York Film Critics Circle vote where Moore's movie -- "Far From Heaven" -- tied "Broadcast News'" record for most wins ever (5)? Yes. And Lane's victory probably assures her a spot in the Oscar lineup, but it doesn't detract from Moore's clout. Moore came in a close second place in the voting in New York after having won the same prize two days earlier during the Los Angelenos' vote. "Far From Heaven's" success in 5 other NYFCC categories is largely due to Moore's radiant turn as a Donna Reed clone (Donna Reed, remember, won an Oscar!). Lane is luminous, too, and gives a great performance, but she won Best Actress -- let's be honest -- because the New York critics got so swept up in the Diane Lane hug-a-thon going on around town r several days before they voted. Many of the critics attended the tribute to Lane staged by the Film Society of Lincoln Center and they were also at the party Lane's friends threw for her at the Four Seasons restaurant. What else could explain the bizarre split vote of "Far From Heaven's" at the NYFCC? It even startled NYFCC co-chair Marshall Fine, who told GoldDerby.com: "I had expected 'Far from Heaven' to do well, but, frankly, I was surprised that Julianne Moore lost." So was NYFCC member Thelma Adams, who adds, "Moore lost by a hair and even I can't explain that, but I can say that dinner or not, Lane deserves the recognition for her performance." No explanation is needed for why Jack Nicholson did so well, tying Daniel Day-Lewis for Best Actor in L.A. and coming in a close second to him in the New York voting. Award-givers are just plain nuts about the guy. Jack is SO BELOVED by kudos-givers that he reigns as the biggest male champ of virtually every top showbiz award: the Oscars (3), Golden Globes (5), New York Film Critics Circle (6), L.A. Film Critics Association (was 2 -- now 3), National Society of Film Critics (5), Screen Actors Guild (1 - no star has yet won two for film work) and even the National Board of Review (5). Jack was among the rivals for the Best Actor award bestowed by the Broadcast Film Critics Association, which set tongues wagging yesterday when it unveiled its nominees, snubbing "Antwone Fisher" while insisting in its press release, "The Critics' Choice Awards are the most accurate predictor of the Academy Award nominations. In the major categories in the past two years, 78 percent of Critics' Choice Awards nominees also became Oscar nominees, as compared to 62 percent for Golden Globe nominees." The comparison isn't fully fair. BFCA lists only three, sometimes just two, nominees in most categories, which makes it easier to match the Oscars. The Globes list 10 Best Actors (5 in separate categories for dramas and comedies/musicals), so there isn't room for all of its nominees to squeeze into 5 Oscar slots. The BFCA boast failed to note that it didn't nominate Oscar's Best Actor (Denzel Washington) or Actress (Halle Berry) last year. Maybe its omission of "Antwone" this year was merely part of a greater anti Denzel thing.

Thanks for reposting this here, Mary. I like this guy's take because it agrees with my own perception of what goes on, that the critics are pushing the ponies into the AA paddock is an apt analogy as well as everything he has to say about the GGs. It will be Scorcese's year, just as Steven Spielberg got his due.

(Dorine)old recordings of Wordsworth or someone from that time reading Wordsworth (forget which) to help DDL develop his speech pattern accurately That's interesting. From what I've seen and heard in clips (admittedly limited), DDL's accent seems like a very over-exaggerated Noo Yawk-type thing. But hey, if they based it on recordings . . . I'll bow to your Big Apple expertise, D, what did you think of it? Re: the movie, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind....I enjoyed it immensely as it seemed everyone in the theater did. I'm so happy for George; the guy works so hard. And he's such a sweetheart. And gorgeous. I'lllstop now.;-) Really looking forward to this one. Thanks, Dorine. The critics see themselves as key players in the Academy Awards derby, true, but not in terms of predicting who'll win. They push Oscar ponies that might not make it otherwise. That's an excellent point. Good article, Murph, thanks!

Interesting article Murph, thanks. (Martin Scorsese) who's long overdue for a big Hollywood bow Here, here! And he comes across as such a very sweet man the few times I've seen him speak. Seems truly flabergasted at times at what has been well received or not by critics. I truly hope GoNY does well for him. If nothing else, to make up for Harvey riding him so hard. I honestly think (and got the impression from body language) he's been sweatin' bullets over this one. My pick (and hope) is Chicago for Best Pic and Scorsese, Best Director. Though I'd like to see Rob Marshall (dir for Chicago) pick up the statue with his first effort. And there definitely is a history of giving the nod to those who have been slighted previously on better efforts vs the current effort.... which while very good should not necessarily be the winner. No explanation is needed for why Jack Nicholson did so well.....Award-givers are just plain nuts about the guy. Jack is SO BELOVED by kudos-givers And that is a failing indeed. I'm not saying I think Jack or the movie was bad. I liked it, but I don't think my audience was overwhelmed about the whole movie either. Glowing review in Time, but he has a midwestern connection to relate to. I enjoyed him in this rather different role for him, but still think others deserve nods more. I'm curious about opinions on this movie. DDL's accent seems like a very over-exaggerated Noo Yawk-type thing Early NY accent.

Also, can't believe Nic Cage not getting more attention for Adaptation. :( But Chris Cooper was great.

Thank you everyone for the interesting articles and awards listings. Interesting to see how different they are in different parts of the country. Am looking forward to items on Chicago as I am most anxious to see this one.

Thanks, Murph! (Dorine), Also, can't believe Nic Cage not getting more attention for Adaptation. :( That is one film I am looking forward to seeing. On the I love CK dept: Adaptation: Filmmakers grow trippy version of 'The Orchid Thief' By RENE RODRIGUEZ NEW YORK - When Charlie Kaufman first sat down to adapt The Orchid Thief for the screen, he intended to write a movie about flowers -- orchids, specifically -- and the people who obsess over them. And that's exactly what he did. Adaptation, which opens Friday, does indeed recount the reporter-subject relationship between Orchid Thief author Susan Orlean, a staff writer for The New Yorker, and John Laroche, the eccentric South Florida horticulturist who briefly made news in the mid-'90s after being arrested for poaching rare orchids from the Fakahatchee Strand State Preserve. But that's only half the movie. ''I really liked Susan's book,'' says Kaufman, 44, whose first screenplay, Being John Malkovich, earned him an Oscar nomination and branded him as Hollywood's go-to guy for brainy, weird ideas. ``It wasn't the type of book I normally get sent to adapt, but I liked the sadness of it, and I liked learning about the stuff she was writing about. At first I thought, `Well, OK, I don't have to do anything weird with this.' ''I was incorrect about that,'' he adds, laughing. ``But at least I had good intentions to begin with.'' Those intentions were set aside after Kaufman discovered, early in the writing process, that The Orchid Thief was perfectly unfilmable. Orlean's book was filled with long, informative chapters about the history of adventurous orchid collectors risking their lives -- and often dying -- in their quest for the elusive flower. It had beautiful, contemplative passages in which Orlean marveled over Laroche's obsessive fixation on the plants, then lamented a lack of similar passion in her own life (``I wanted to want something as much as people wanted these plants, but it isn't part of my constitution. I think people my age are embarrassed by too much enthusiasm and believe that too much passion about anything is naive.'') What The Orchid Thief didn't have was a linear plot to support a feature-length film. The more Kaufman struggled to remain true to the book, the more frustrated he became. With the deadline for his script approaching, desperation set in. And then came the eureka moment. ''Charlie had already written hundreds of pages and couldn't figure out how to make it into something that was all of a piece,'' says Spike Jonze, 33, who directed Adaptation and Being John Malkovich. ``Months into his anxiety, he told me he was spending most of his time thinking about his inability to make it work. He'd wake up in the morning feeling so unhappy that he had to go sit in front of the typewriter and try to figure it out some more. ``And then he told me he was going to write about that, and I started to get really excited. That's when I said I wanted to direct it, because I knew he was going to deliver something incredible. I just didn't know what it would be.'' THE BIG SURPRISE Neither did anyone else. Producer Ed Saxon, who had commissioned Kaufman to adapt The Orchid Thief before Being John Malkovich was even released, says he didn't get a single phone call from the writer during the writing process. Finally, eight months after their first meeting, a package from Kaufman arrived at Saxon's office. ''We knew Charlie would do something original,'' Saxon says. ``We just didn't know that we were going to get The Orchid Thief: The Remix.'' The first sign strangeness was afoot was right there on the cover page: The Orchid Thief had suddenly become Adaptation. And the script was credited to Charlie Kaufman -- and Donald Kaufman. 'My first reaction was, `Why did he change the title? And who is Donald Kaufman?' '' Saxon recalls. 'I picked it up immediately and read it -- twice. The first time through was a white-knuckled, what's-going-to-happen-next kind of thing. The second time I read it, it was like, `Oh my God, this is really good. But can I get it made?' '' Good question. Kaufman's solution to adapting The Orchid Thief -- now pay attention -- was to insert himself into the movie as a main character (played by Nicolas Cage), who is struggling to adapt The Orchid Thief. At the same time, the movie shows Orlean (played by Meryl Streep) as she befriends Laroche (Chris Cooper) and goes about writing the New Yorker article that would serve as the basis for The Orchid Thief. The result is that you get to watch Kaufman's torturous process of writing Adaptation while you're watching the finished movie itself. Got that? But wait, there's more. Kaufman also gives himself a fictional twin brother, Donald (also played by Cage), who serves as Charlie's foil, landing a production deal for a trite screenplay about a serial killer while Charlie wallows in his creative misery. And then there's the movie's highly controversial -- and utterly brilliant -- third act, which takes leave of all semblance of reality and sends the story spinning into territory that is part Jerry Bruckheimer, part Twilight Zone. Aside from bringing Adaptation to an ingenious close, that final half-hour is also a comment on the process of screenwriting, specifically when it comes to movies based on actual events. ''I felt an enormous amount of guilt, or at least responsibility to Susan,'' Kaufman says about the liberties he took with The Orchid Thief. ``One of the reasons I became so stuck is that early on, I knew I was going to have to use Susan and John as movie characters. They are real people, and I was going to put lines in their mouths and thoughts in their heads. Well, I don't like the idea of turning real people into characters. By doing things in this movie that tell the audience this is conspicuously not what happened in Susan Orlean's life, I leave no doubt that I've turned her into a fictional character.'' TAKING LIBERTIES Exaggerated or not, it was that third act in particular that required the filmmakers to secure rigorous legal clearances from the real-life people portrayed in the film. What surprised Kaufman was that ``no one said no to us. When Spike went to Florida to do some location scouting and met with John Laroche, he had just gotten this contract from Columbia Pictures that was 80 pages long. He loved the fact that it was so long. And he was very excited by the fact that he would get 2 � percent if they did an action figure of him.'' Orlean says she was ''curious and thrilled'' by Kaufman's mad screenplay, even though it veered so wildly from her book -- and depicted her, among other things, engaging in some very funny business with a telephone dial tone. ''Everybody who sells a book to be made into a movie knows you don't exactly know what's going to come of it,'' Orlean says. ``But I think Charlie's script is truer to the spirit of the book than a strictly literal adaptation would have been. The movie is obviously its own creature. But the way the book is represented -- the parts of the book that are read, the feel of what the book was about -- that's all very accurate and true to what the book was.'' Orlean didn't even balk at the extreme -- and extremely illegal -- things her character in the movie does. 'There are probably some people who will see the movie and not `get' the turn in the last third,'' she says. ``That was the one thing that I was nervous about initially. Then I realized it was too much of an adventure not to participate. People who know me know what's real, and the people who don't know me probably will never know me. So I can live with that.'' Making Orlean's decision easier was finding out that she would played by Streep (``If someone is going to get inside your head and reconstruct it a little, what better person than her?''). It was the participation of actors like Streep and Cage that encouraged Columbia Pictures to make Adaptation, despite all its inherent weirdness, as long as the filmmakers could adhere to a strict $19 million budget. ''I don't think we could have had a $100 million budget on this movie, because the studio can't afford to leave you alone then,'' Kaufman says. ``Which is fine with me: I prefer it this way. You don't feel like you're going to bankrupt the studio or get people fired if it's a failure.'' NO BIG HITS Despite all his acclaim, Kaufman has yet to write a bona fide box-office hit. Being John Malkovich, in which John Malkovich, playing himself, discovered John Cusack and Cameron Diaz were running around inside his head, grossed a modest $23 million. This past spring's Human Nature, in which a hirsute Patricia Arquette swung from a tree vine, singing, ''Now I'm free, no more cares, I've accepted my millions of hairs,'' was an outright flop, earning a measly $700,000. And although it stars the mainstream likes of George Clooney, Julia Roberts and Drew Barrymore, the upcoming Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, Kaufman's adaptation of Gong Show host Chuck Barris' autobiography, is being handled gingerly by distributor Miramax Films, with a gradual city-by-city release (it arrives in South Florida in late January). Another hurdle for getting Adaptation made was its very subject. Movies about writer's block are nothing new, but they are rarely the kind of movies you'd ever want to watch more than once, if at all (for proof, see Barton Fink). Part of what distinguishes Adaptation from the usual navel-gazing angst inherent in the genre is the ferocious glee with which Kaufman depicts himself in the throes of self-doubt, staring at the blank page before him (''Do I have an original thought in my head -- my bald head?'' and, later, ``I'm losing my hair, I'm fat and repulsive . . . I have no understanding of anything outside my own panic and self-loathing.'') At the same time, Adaptation takes its characters very seriously. The movie is never glib or detached: The pain and anxieties its protagonists suffer are genuine, which helps balance the film's surreal flourishes, like a flashback that comes in the first five minutes of the movie, which takes us back to the earth's very creation, four billion and 40 years ago. It's that combination of the earnest and the fantastical that keeps Adaptation from ever becoming too enamored of its own cleverness. ''If Charlie had kept things on the surface, the movie would have been a self-indulgent experiment,'' Jonze says. ``But Charlie is never interested in the surface. He's interested in writing something real, something that puts himself out there in a really raw way. I think the movie is really from the heart.'' ''I thought it was the best script I'd ever read, and I've read a lot of really good scripts,'' Streep says. ``But this one was very densely written, wildly imaginative, but at the same time very emotionally true. It was trying to work on several different levels at the same time, which I thought was interesting. It was -- to use a dirty word -- intellectual, as well as entertaining and screamingly funny.'' TRUSTING CHARLIE For his part, Cage confesses he didn't completely understand the Adaptation script the first time he read it. ''I wasn't entirely sure what it was that I was going to be making,'' he says. ``I really didn't. But I had seen Being John Malkovich, and I thought that movie was beautiful, almost poetic. I knew I would be in safe hands working with Spike and Charlie. I just knew I was going to be walking around in a world these two talented people had created.'' Talented, yes -- and, at least in Kaufman's case, also supremely self-assured. The ways in which the writer dares to depict himself in Adaptation -- masturbating to Orlean's photo on the book jacket, or dreaming about a studio executive declaring his script ''genius'' before making love to him -- implies that the Charlie Kaufman seen in the movie is just a wink. After all, it takes a very confident person to bare his neuroses so openly and make himself the butt of so many discomfiting jokes. Kaufman laughs, not a little nervously, when he hears this. ''I don't know if I'm a well put-together person,'' he says. ``I think it was somewhat adventurous of me to portray myself this way. I like to be that way in my work, and this is obviously a movie where my work and my personal life are going to meet. I don't know what that means yet, how it's going to affect my life that I'm a character in this movie. ``But I wouldn't say that means I'm well put-together.''

(Dorine), Also, can't believe Nic Cage not getting more attention for Adaptation. :( And I can't believe everyone has forgotten Sam Mendes' "Road to Perdition" which was a masterpiece.Can any one of these supporting actors be better than Jude Law? Or Paul Newman? I wish Jack Nichols would hang it up...he is so 'same ole, same ole". *yawn*

I wish Jack Nichols would hang it up...he is so 'same ole, same ole". *yawn* I couldn't agree more! But they love him in Hollywood. He has the same Marlon Brandon mystique and I think he's 'same ole, same ole" too. My acting teachers all loved him and I could never agree with them.

(Evelyn) I wish Jack Nichols would hang it up...he is so 'same ole, same ole". *yawn* (Moon Dreams) I couldn't agree more! But they love him in Hollywood. He has the same Marlon Brandon mystique and I think he's 'same ole, same ole" too. I third that opinion...Cut and paste performances...

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I do like all these reviews and awards posting, but in truth little of what is on the lists has been available to be seen here. Some will eventually get here but much never will. I don't really know half of what I reading about! ;)

I like Jack Nicholson a lot. I like just about everythig he's ever done. Not sure how someone could watch The Pledge or Hoffa, and think he was the same in every movie. Thanks for the CK article, Moon, and for the Adaptation feedsback, Dorine. This one sounds right up my alley. Gah, so many good movies, so little time!! I like Nic Cage too, and have been waiting since Leaving Las Vegas (one of the best male performances I've seen in the last decade) for him to do something worthy of his ability. I liked Perdition, Ev. I thoght it was a well-directed, acted, and photographed film. If Paul Newman isn't nommed, I'll spit. He was wonderful! I think they'll remember him. "Sell crazy someplace else. We're all stocked up here." --Melvin Udall, As Good As It Gets :-)

I does seem as though "Road" is being forgotten. That's a shame. I wonder why? Short attention spans on the part of the critics?

Don't count "Road" out. It will get a great deal of recognition in the technical categories (cinematography, art direction, costumes, etc.) and we probably haven't seen anything yet in the campaigns/ads for noms. The one for Diane Lane was mounted early, as she would've been forgotten as well. But I didn't think she was all that great, in the summer, when people were talking about her being up for an Oscar. The supporting actor category has a huge wealth of possibilities. I would've put James Coburn in there too, but he's died and he did get one a couple of years back. Sorry, but I wasn't all that enamored of Newman's turn. Jude's was more impressive IMO.

I'm putting this here because I don't wanna get in trouble with the boss. :) (Mari) LOL! Rupie already beat him to it in Part 1. And look where it got him. Wellll, Rupie is doing the voice of a bad guy on Nickelodeon's "The Wild Thornberry's movie. Gotta be big star money there! :D

Road To Perdition is all over this article, so take heart! I liked Law in RTP, but his role was very small. Newman had to show a much greater range in his role, IMO. To tell you the truth, I liked Tyler Hoechlin, the kid, best of all. The boy was amazing, IMO. But he'll get left out, unfortunately. Oscars Offer Mix of Prospects By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie Writer LOS ANGELES - This year's crop of Academy Awards (news - web sites) contenders may not be the healthiest, but it sure is an interesting one. With a generally so-so lineup, 2002 has produced a handful of traditional-looking candidates and a host of darker, edgier prospects that might slip into the race for lack of more conventional Oscar fare. Hollywood's awards season, which culminates with the Oscars (news - web sites) March 23, offers a mix of the old guard who've won before (Jack Nicholson (news), Meryl Streep (news)); established performers who've never won (Salma Hayek (news) in "Frida," Chris Cooper (news) in "Adaptation"); past winners back in the hunt after long absences (Paul Newman (news), Nicolas Cage (news)); and at least one fresh face (Derek Luke in the title role of "Antwone Fisher"). Along with sober, smells-like-Oscar candidates such as the crime epics "Gangs of New York" and "Road to Perdition" or the impassioned literary adaptation "The Hours," the field includes the zestful musical "Chicago," the fantasy sequel "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers," the old-school melodrama "Far From Heaven" and the absurdist's delight "Adaptation." Oscar nominations come out Feb. 11. Here's a rundown of possible contenders in major categories: Best Picture: "The Hours," Stephen Daldry's artful adaptation of the Pulitzer Prize-winning novel interweaving stories about Virginia Woolf, a despondent 1950s housewife and a troubled modern woman, is a likely competitor, along with two Irish-American mob tales, Martin Scorsese (news)'s "Gangs of New York" and Sam Mendes (news)' "Road to Perdition." Peter Jackson (news)'s "The Two Towers" is more action, less depth than last year's "Lord of the Rings" installment, but it might bring another nomination for the franchise. Sam Raimi (news)'s "Spider-Man," the year's top-grossing hit, probably will be viewed too much as a summer popcorn flick to merit best-picture consideration. Though a bit lightweight, Rob Marshall's "Chicago" entertains well enough that it could follow last year's "Moulin Rouge" as a musical nominee. Steven Spielberg (news)'s cat-and-mouse adventure "Catch Me If You Can" also may lack the heft, but it's an engaging romp and has better Oscar prospects than his other 2002 flick, "Minority Report," which bears the stigma of a sci-fi genre generally not favored by awards voters. The year's surprise blockbuster "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" is a feel-good romance adored by general audiences but may prove too much of a featherweight for awards voters. Other possibilities: "Antwone Fisher," Denzel Washington (news)'s directing debut, based on the real-life story of an angry orphan who finds solace in the care of a Navy psychiatrist; "Frida," Julie Taymor (news)'s vibrant film biography of Mexican artist Frida Kahlo; Todd Haynes (news)' "Far From Heaven," a sumptuously photographed work that updates the style of '50s melodrama maestro Douglas Sirk; "About Schmidt," a darkly comic drama of late-life self-examination from director Alexander Payne; "Adaptation," the latest bizarre concoction from writer Charlie Kaufman and director Spike Jonze (news), the team behind "Being John Malkovich (news)"; "The Quiet American," Phillip Noyce's thoughtful rendering of Graham Greene (news)'s novel of American imperialism in 1950s Vietnam; Spike Lee (news)'s "The 25th Hour," tracing the last day of freedom for a rueful prison-bound drug dealer; and Roman Polanski (news)'s comeback film, "The Pianist," a somber Holocaust story that took top honors at last spring's Cannes ilm Festival (news - web sites). Best Actor: Past winner Daniel Day-Lewis (news) is the man to beat, presenting one of cinema's most black-hearted yet magnetizing villains in "Gangs of New York." Like Oscar winner F. Murray Abraham, whose bad guy Salieri upstaged Tom Hulce (news)'s Mozart in "Amadeus," Day-Lewis' turn overwhelms a solid performance by "Gangs" hero Leonardo DiCaprio (news). Along with "Gangs," DiCaprio has a shot at a nomination for "Catch Me If You Can." Three-time Oscar winner Jack Nicholson is a likely nominee for "About Schmidt." Two-time winners Tom Hanks (news) for "Road to Perdition" and Michael Caine (news) for "The Quiet American" also are leading candidates. Dual roles in "Adaptation" could land a nomination for Nicolas Cage, who gives his best performance since his Oscar-winning turn in 1995's "Leaving Las Vegas." Other possibilities include newcomer Derek Luke, "Antwone Fisher"; Edward Norton (news), "The 25th Hour"; Richard Gere (news), "Chicago"; Dennis Quaid (news), "The Rookie"; Adrien Brody (news), "The Pianist"; Sam Rockwell (news), "Confessions of a Dangerous Mind"; Robin Williams (news), "One Hour Photo"; Al Pacino (news), "Insomnia"; Kevin Kline (news), "The Emperor's Club"; Pierce Brosnan (news), "Evelyn"; and John Cusack (news), "Max." Best Actress: Nicole Kidman (news), who plays Virginia Woolf, and two-time Oscar winner Meryl Streep, who plays a contemporary variation of the Woolf character Mrs. Dalloway, both have strong prospects for "The Hours." Their co-star, Julianne Moore (news), is being pushed by "Hours" distributor Paramount in the supporting category to avoid clashing with her powerful performance in "Far From Heaven," which should earn her a best-actress nomination. Salma Hayek emerges as a contender in the title role of "Frida." With a spirited performance in "Chicago," Renee Zellweger (news) might follow Kidman, star of "Moulin Rouge," as the second straight actress in a musical to earn a nomination (Zellweger also was nominated last year, for "Bridget Jones's Diary"). A relatively light field could open the door for a dark horse, including Diane Lane (news), "Unfaithful"; Jennifer Aniston (news), "The Good Girl"; Maggie Gyllenhaal (news), "Secretary"; and Samantha Morton (news), "Morvern Callar." Best Supporting Actor: If the award were given for multiple roles, John C. Reilly (news) might be a lock, with impressive parts in "Gangs of New York," "The Hours" and "Chicago." Individually, the roles may be too small to gain attention from academy voters. Paul Newman is a safe bet for his gracious presence in "Road to Perdition." He could wind up competing against "Perdition" co-star Tom Hanks, who delivers an engaging supporting role in "Catch Me If You Can." Strong candidates include scene-stealers Chris Cooper in "Adaptation" and Ed Harris (news) in "The Hours." Other possibilities: Alfred Molina (news), "Frida"; Denzel Washington, "Antwone Fisher"; Ian McKellen (news) and Viggo Mortensen (news), "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers"; Dustin Hoffman (news), "Moonlight Mile"; Dennis Quaid and Dennis Haysbert, "Far From Heaven"; Barry Pepper (news), "The 25th Hour"; and Christopher Plummer (news), "Nicholas Nickleby." Best Supporting Actress: "The Hours" co-stars Meryl Streep and Julianne Moore could be competing against each other, Streep for "Adaptation," Moore for "The Hours" itself (Streep is a best-actress contender for "The Hours," while Moore is a best-actress prospect for "Far From Heaven"). Cameron Diaz (news) is a contender for "Gangs of New York." Past Oscar winner Kathy Bates (news) in "About Schmidt" and Catherine Zeta-Jones (news) in "Chicago" deliver performances that should draw them awards attention (unfortunately for Hope Davis (news) in "About Schmidt" and Queen Latifah in "Chicago," Bates and Zeta-Jones may overshadow their co-stars' potentially awards-worthy roles). Other possibilities: Patricia Clarkson, "Far From Heaven"; Miranda Richardson (news), "Spider"; Michelle Pfeiffer (news), "White Oleander"; Susan Sarandon (news), "Moonlight Mile"; Samantha Morton, "Minority Report"; and Emily Watson (news), "Punch-Drunk Love." Best Director: Remarkably, Martin Scorsese has not won an Oscar. This could be his year for "Gangs of New York," which is by no means his best film but does make for an impressive blend of the true grit of his early work and the epic scope that academy voters love. Sam Mendes � who won the best-director prize for his first film, "American Beauty" � is in the running for his second, "Road to Perdition." Peter Jackson may be in line for a nomination again for "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers," part two of his trilogy. Other prospects: Stephen Daldry, "The Hours"; Alexander Payne, "About Schmidt"; Todd Haynes, "Far From Heaven"; Denzel Washington, "Antwone Fisher"; Steven Spielberg, "Catch Me If You Can" or "Minority Report"; Sam Raimi, "Spider-Man"; Spike Lee, "The 25th Hour"; Julie Taymor, "Frida"; Spike Jonze, "Adaptation"; Roman Polanski, "The Pianist"; Phillip Noyce, "The Quiet American"; and Rob Marshall, "Chicago."

Long article, but some good quotes here. 'Gangs' a Long Labor of Love for Scorsese By Martha Graybow NEW YORK (Reuters) - It's been a long, long wait for Martin Scorsese (news)'s sweeping epic, "Gangs of New York." The ambitious, big-budget film about rival street thugs in 19th century Manhattan finally hits U.S. theaters on Friday, more than 30 years after Scorsese first envisioned it. And the end result, he says, is different than if he had made the film when he was a young director in the 1970s. "I changed over the years, and this is the story that ultimately came down," said the 60-year-old director of films such as "Taxi Driver" and "GoodFellas," speaking at a recent media gathering. The nearly three-hour film, starring Leonardo DiCaprio (news), Daniel Day-Lewis (news) and Cameron Diaz (news), was a labor of love for Scorsese, who has long been fascinated with the history of his native New York. But it took years to bring the story to the big screen largely because of its massive scale. Rife with production delays and ballooning costs, the Miramax Films production had a hefty price tag of at least $100 million. Scorsese traces the film's genesis to New Year's Day 1970, when he house-sat for friends and plucked a 1928 nonfiction book, "Gangs of New York" by Herbert Asbury, off the shelves. He then devoured the tales of street warfare in 19th century New York. "Gangs of New York," loosely based on Asbury's book, chronicles a little-known era when lower Manhattan was overrun by ruthless bandits. It takes place against the backdrop of the Civil War and the draft riots in the Five Points slum, where so-called "Nativists" born in the United States saw the waves of new Irish immigrants as invaders out to steal their jobs and livelihoods. The film deals "with a world that's lawless almost, anarchic, chaotic," Scorsese said. "And out of that comes order but unfortunately it comes through violence." The film is plenty violent. But Scorsese insists it is not as graphic as some of his other work, saying he tried to convey the brutality of the era through sound effects and editing. "I certainly look at my movies that I made and I don't have to prove anything whether I can do violence in movies," he said. The film was shot almost entirely in Rome, where the filmmakers re-created acres of tenements and cobblestone streets on a back lot at Cinecitta Studios, where many classic Italian movies were made. The filmmakers hired fair-haired Italian extras who would resemble the Irish immigrants. Cast members say the realistic set helped immerse them in the that period. "We cocooned ourselves in this little environment," DiCaprio said. "People ask me, 'Did you learn any Italian while you were in Italy? You were there in Rome for 10 months.' I say 'No, because we were in New York.' ... We woke up every day and went on set and went back in time." "Gangs of New York" is DiCaprio's biggest movie since the 1997 blockbuster "Titanic." The 28-year-old Hollywood heartthrob, who plays a young Irish American out to avenge the death of his father, also appears in another highly anticipated film this month, Steven Spielberg (news)'s "Catch Me if You Can." The film also marks the return of Day-Lewis, whose last movie was 1997's "The Boxer" and who starred in Scorsese's "The Age of Innocence" in 1993. Day-Lewis plays "Bill the Butcher," a native-born gang leader who detests the Irish immigrants. To prepare for the role he apprenticed with a butcher to learn more about his character. But playing an anti-Irish "nativist" was a big stretch for the real Day-Lewis, who lives in Ireland with his family. "I'm sure they'll burn my house down when it comes out in Ireland," he said with a laugh. "But there's something strangely liberating about crossing the border line and looking backward and seeing things from exactly the opposite point of view." The cast also includes Diaz, who plays a savvy pickpocket named Jenny; Liam Neeson (news), who makes a brief appearance as the father of DiCaprio's character, and Jim Broadbent (news) as the flagrantly corrupt politician William "Boss" Tweed. "Gangs of New York" is one of Scorsese's most personal movies. When he was a boy in Manhattan's Little Italy neighborhood, his father often told stories he had heard growing up about the city's violent past. Scorsese mulled over his vision for "Gangs" throughout the 1970s and 1980s, while he made other films such as "Raging Bull" and "The Last Temptation of Christ." It wasn't until the late 1990s that he was able to get funding for the project. Miramax had hoped to release the film in late 2001, but the studio later decided not to put out the movie so soon after Sept. 11. Scorsese also says he needed more time to edit it. The long wait was worth it, said DiCaprio, who saw "Gangs of New York" for the first time a few weeks ago. "Marty was tinkering with this film during the editing process for a long time, and I think that he put a lot of painstaking effort into making sure this film was perfect," he told reporters.

(Mari)I like Jack Nicholson a lot. I like just about everythig he's ever done. Not sure how someone could watch The Pledge or Hoffa, and think he was the same in every movie. I agree, and don't forget Chinatown. That was my favorite. Thanks Mari, and all for the great articles and reviews.

Chinatown, Hoffa, The Shining was a looong time ago. The Pledge .. OK. But lately he's doing these cookie-cutter Senior Citizen comedies. Marty looks older than 60.Must be due to all those fights with Harve. I liked Law in RTP, but his role was very small. Bigger than JD's in SIL.That one clocked in at two minutes.

As of late, Jack Nicholson simply coasts on his atonishingly good work from the seventies. Starting with "The Shining" he has trafficked in little else than his patented Jack Nicholson impersonation. It is a very pale reflection of his remarkable performances in "Five Easy Pieces", "Chinatown", "The Last Detail", et al.

Criticizing JN for being JN has become a cliche, IMO. The Pledge, The Crossing Guard, Blood and Wine are all very good dramatic performances--and relatively recent ones, like within the last 5 years or so. And if As Good As It Gets is what you feel is his Jack persona . . . bring it on, I laughed like hell. How can you diagnose someone with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and then blame him for barging in here as if he had control over it? --More Melvin U. :-)

(Evelyn) I wish Jack Nichols would hang it up...he is so 'same ole, same ole". *yawn* Actually in About Schmidt, I did find this character different than his usual. Not confident, sure of himself, or even obnoxious. Quite the opposite. "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" is a feel-good romance adored by general audiences but may prove too much of a featherweight for awards voters. One can only hope. Cameron Diaz (news) is a contender for "Gangs of New York." Fail to see this myself. She was a yawn for me. Steven Spielberg (news)'s cat-and-mouse adventure "Catch Me If You Can" also may lack the heft, but it's an engaging romp Just saw this tonight....an accurate description. Definitely a winner for Spielberg. Great buzz coming out of the theater and in comments by others who've seen it previously. I loved it! It was fun to root for the "bad" guy. ;-) Best Actor Along with "Gangs," DiCaprio has a shot at a nomination for "Catch Me If You Can." Best Supporting Actor Tom Hanks, who delivers an engaging supporting role in "Catch Me If You Can." Not sure about award worthy, but..... was impressed much more by Leo in "Catch..." than in GoNY which I did think he was very good in. Showed quite a range of emotions throughout the movie and at times within one scene. TH was a hoot! If anyone can pick up that accent he does (maybe MA/Boston), let me know. ;) And I thought Christopher Walken was very good, too. Not eccentric at all. Just played it straight as his dad. Thought it was interesting that physically, Leo seemed much smaller in Catch than GoNY where he seemed beefed up. Not sure of the shooting schedules. Can't decide if it was the way the shots were set up, his body language and posture, or if he was truly in different shape for each. Though at the end of Catch he seemed a bit larger. Loved the opening credits. I liked the very different score from John Williams than I'm used to. The theme for the TH character and his cohorts is cute. Michelle Pfeiffer (news), "White Oleander"; I forgot when I saw this I said I thought she should be nommed. Apparently critics forgot her too. Strong candidates include scene-stealers Chris Cooper in "Adaptation" and Ed Harris (news) in "The Hours." Tough call. I definitely think EH should be. Miramax had hoped to release the film in late 2001, but the studio later decided not to put out the movie so soon after Sept. 11. Scorsese also says he needed more time to edit it. And kudos to Scorsese for not sanitizing one particular shot. You'll see what I mean. Yes, yes...I'm getting to it! Be patient. ;-)

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Evelyn, I think that you do have a point about the pervasive saminess of Jack Nicholson's recent performances..."But lately he's doing these cookie-cutter Senior Citizen comedies." Very true, indeed. Jack Nicholson's recent work = cliche. It's very much the paint-by-numbers school of acting. He has no need to take chances; so he doesn't. Things become cliche because they have a persistent basis in fact. As for Jack, he hasn't done much lately (or much of anything) which isn't the same old, same old.

I agree with Cheryl and Evelyn on JN's recent performances. As Good as it Gets typified what a Hollywood Oscar campaign can do. The movie and the performances were nothing special. (Mari), Criticizing JN for being JN has become a cliche If the shoe fits. He has become his own clich�. There are so many good movies opening next week, can't wait! For now, it's LOTR tonight.

Reposting in non-bottom-line-on-eyechart size: Response 446 of 447: kathleen (townranny) * Thu, Dec 19, 2002 (09:22) * 3 lines i saw a very good indy film last weekend called 'real women have curves' about a mexican-american girl who graduates high school and faces working in a sweat shop but wants to go to college.

Thanks Karen. It was a very little film.

But it was excellent, as I told everyone when I saw it way back in October. This is the movie that should be getting all the praise instead of that other one.

'Chicago's' 8 noms tops Golden Globes; 7 to 'Hours' Dec. 19, 2002 By AP "Chicago" received a leading eight Golden Globe nominations Thursday, including best musical or comedy and best actress for stars Renee Zellweger and Catherine Zeta-Jones. "The Hours," a three-tiered story about women whose lives are linked to a novel by Virginia Woolf, had seven nominations including best film drama, best actress for Nicole Kidman and supporting actor for Ed Harris. The comedy of in-jokes, "Adaptation," about its own writers' attempts to fashion its screenplay, had six mentions including best musical or comedy, screenplay by Charlie Kaufman and best comedy actor for Nicolas Cage. Nominees in 13 movies and 11 television categories for the 60th annual Golden Globes were announced by the Hollywood Foreign Press Association. The awards are regarded by some as indicators of front-runners for the Academy Award nominations in February. The Globes will be awarded on Jan. 19 during a live telecast on NBC. Besides "The Hours," the best film drama contenders were the bittersweet Jack Nicholson road-trip saga "About Schmidt," director Martin Scorsese's "Gangs of New York," the fantasy sequel "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" and Roman Polanski's Nazi escape story "The Pianist." Along with "Adaptation" and "Chicago," the Charles Dickens classic "Nicholas Nickleby," the Hugh Grant redemption comedy "About a Boy" and the crowd-pleasing blockbuster "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" will compete for best musical or comedy. Meryl Streep received two nominations, competing with "The Hours" co-star Kidman for best dramatic actress and in the supporting actress category for "Adaptation." Other dramatic actress nominees were Salma Hayek for "Frida," Diane Lane for "Unfaithful" and Julianne Moore for "Far From Heaven." Nicholson's turn as a bedraggled widower in "About Schmidt" earned him a dramatic actor mention along with Leonardo DiCaprio's runaway con artist in "Catch Me If You Can," Daniel Day-Lewis' brutal crime lord in "Gangs of New York," Michael Caine's weary, seen-it-all journalist in "The Quiet American" and Adrien Brody as the piano player evading Nazis in "The Pianist." Cage's role as screenwriter Kaufman and his fictional twin brother in "Adaptation" placed him against Grant in "About a Boy," Kieran Culkin in "Igby Goes Down," Richard Gere in "Chicago" and Adam Sandler in "Punch-Drunk Love" in the comedic or musical actor category. Besides Zellweger and Zeta-Jones in "Chicago," Nia Vardalos' role as a Greek woman who marries outside her ethnicity in "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" received a musical or comedy actress mention, along with Goldie Hawn in the "The Banger Sisters" and Maggie Gyllenhaal in "Secretary." Directing nominees included Scorsese for "Gangs of New York," Peter Jackson for "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers," Stephen Daldry for "The Hours," Spike Jonze for "Adaptation," Rob Marshall for "Chicago" and Alexander Payne for "About Schmidt." In a blur between reality and fiction, Kaufman was credited along with his fictional twin brother "Donald" in the screenplay category for "Adaptation." Also nominated: Bill Condon for adapting the stage musical "Chicago," David Hare for his version of the novel "The Hours," Todd Haynes for "Far From Heaven" and Payne and Jim Taylor for "About Schmidt." Kathy Bates in "About Schmidt," Cameron Diaz in "Gangs of New York," Queen Latifah in "Chicago," Susan Sarandon in "Igby Goes Down" joined Streep in the supporting actress category. Supporting actor nominees were Chris Cooper for "Adaptation," Harris for "The Hours," Paul Newman for "Road to Perdition," Dennis Quaid for "Far From Heaven" and John C. Reilly for "Chicago." Perennial award nominees "The Sopranos" and "The West Wing" competed again for best TV drama along with "Six Feet Under," "The Shield" and "24." TV comedy nominees included "The Simpsons," "Will & Grace," "Sex and the City," "Curb Your Enthusiasm" and "Friends." HBO led television networks with 26 total nominations for its shows "The Sopranos," "Six Feet Under," "Curb Your Enthusiasm" and the movies "Path to War," "Live From Baghdad" and "The Gathering Storm." NBC had 13, followed by Fox with seven and CBS and FX with three each. ABC and TNT had two apiece. Golden Globe nominees are chosen by the association's roughly 90 members who cover Hollywood for overseas publications. A partial list of nominations follows. MOTION PICTURES Picture, Drama: "About Schmidt," "Gangs of New York," "The Hours," "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers," "The Pianist." Actress, Drama: Salma Hayek, "Frida"; Nicole Kidman, "The Hours"; Diane Lane, "Unfaithful" ; Julianne Moore, "Far From Heaven"; Meryle Streep, "The Hours." Actor, Drama: Adrien Brody, "The Pianist"; Michael Caine, "The Quiet American"; Daniel Day-Lewis, "Gangs of New York"; Leonardo Di Caprio, "Catch Me if You Can"; Jack Nicholson, "About Schmidt." Foreign Language: "Balzac and the Little Chinese Seamstress," France; "City Of God," Brazil; "The Crime of Father Amaro, (El Crimen del Padre Amaro)," Mexico; "Hero," China; "Nowhere in Africa," Germany; "Talk to Her," Spain. Supporting Actress: Kathy Bates, "About Schmidt"; Cameron Diaz, "Gangs of New York"; Queen Latifah, "Chicago"; Susan Sarandon, "Igby Goes Down"; Meryl Streep, "Adaptation." Supporting Actor: Chris Cooper, "Adaptation"; Ed Harris, "The Hours"; Paul Newman, "Road to Perdition"; Dennis Quaid, "Far From Heaven"; John C. Reilly, "Chicago." Director: Stephen Daldry, "The Hours"; Peter Jackson, "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers"; Spike Jonze, "Adaptation"; Rob Marshall, "Chicago"; Alexander Payne, "About Schmidt"; Martin Scorsese, "Gangs of New York." TELEVISION Drama Series: "24," Fox; "The Shield," FX; "Six Feet Under," HBO; The Sopranos," HBO; "The West Wing," NBC. Actress, Drama: Edie Falco, "The Sopranos"; Jennifer Garner, "Alias"; Rachel Griffiths, "Six Feet Under"; Marg Helgenberger, "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation"; Allison Janney, "The West Wing." Actor, Drama: Michael Chiklis "The Shield;" James Gandolfini, "The Sopranos"; Peter Krause, "Six Feet Under"; Martin Sheen, "The West Wing"; Kiefer Sutherland, "24." Musical or Comedy Series: "Curb Your Enthusiasm," HBO; "Friends," NBC; "Sex and the City," HBO; "The Simpsons," Fox; "Will & Grace," NBC. Actress, Musical or Comedy Series: Jennifer Aniston, "Friends"; Bonnie Hunt, "Life With Bonnie"; Jane Kaczmarek, "Malcolm in the Middle"; Debra Messing, "Will & Grace"; Sarah Jessica Parker, "Sex and the City." Actor, Musical or Comedy Series: Larry David, "Curb Your Enthusiasm"; Matt Leblanc, "Friends"; Bernie Mac, "The Bernie Mac Show"; Eric McCormack, "Will & Grace"; Tony Shalhoub, "Monk."

To Lisa, who commented that she couldn't relate to any of these movies: None of the Best Dramas and only 2 of the Best Comedy (About a Boy and the Wedding movie) nominations have really opened yet.

Where is Road to Perdition....where is Sam Mendes!!! Happy for Paul Newman. I did hear on TV that Greek Wedding and Nia were nommed...;-D So was "About a Boy" and HG. Thanks for the partial list, Karen.Thanks Dorine for your comments. Closest I'll get so seeing some of these. "Far From Heaven" left here so fast there are skid marks on Route 66.

There are only five slots. Can't accommodate everyone. Besides, this is only the Hollywood Foreign Hack awards. The real nominations for best director will come from the Directors' Guild. (though still doesn't mean Road to Perdition and Mendes will get anything; I didn't think Road was all that great.)

But it was excellent, as I told everyone when I saw it way back in October. This is the movie that should be getting all the praise instead of that other one. I was not impressed. Thanks for the GG list, Karen. The Best Picture category will probably match the Oscars too. They'll just have to add Chicago in there. Best Director will also be a match up. I guess they couldn't fit a third film from Mexico, Y tu Mama Tambien was left out. Biggest faux-pas The Greek Wedding picture, please!

Forgot to add that if all the stars do show, it will be the biggest star-studded GG in years.

Here are more of the nominations: Screenplay, Motion Picture -- Bill Condon, "Chicago"; David Hare, "The Hours"; Todd Haynes, "Far from Heaven"; Charlie Kaufman and Donald Kaufman, "Adaptation"; Alexander Payne and Jim Taylor, "About Schmidt." Original Score, Motion Picture -- Elmer Bernstein, "Far from Heaven"; Terence Blanchard, "25th Hour"; Peter Gabriel, "Rabbit Proof Fence"; Philip Glass, "The Hours"; Elliot Goldenthal, "Frida." Original Song-Motion Picture -- "Die Another Day" ("Die Another Day"), music by Madonna and Mirwais Ahmadzai, lyrics by Madonna; "Father and Daughter" ("The Wild Thornberrys Movie"), music & lyrics by Paul Simon; "The Hands that Built America" ("Gangs of New York"), music & lyrics by U2; "Here I Am" ("Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron"), music by Hans Zimmer, lyrics by Bryan Adams/Gretchen Peters; "Lose Yourself" ("8 Mile"), music & lyrics by Eminem. Miniseries or TV Movie -- "The Gathering Storm" (HBO); "Live from Baghdad" (HBO); "Path to War" (HBO); "Shackleton" (A&E); "Steven Spielberg Presents: Taken" (SCI FI). Actress in a Miniseries or TV Movie -- Helena Bonham Carter, "Live From Baghdad"; Shirley MacLaine, "Hell on Heels: The Battle of Mary Kay"; Helen Mirren, "Door to Door"; Vanessa Redgrave, "The Gathering Storm"; Uma Thurman, "Hysterical Blindness." [Ed note: Are they nuts?!!! Mirren, best actress. She was supporting; she died! Kyra Sedgwick had the female lead.] Actor in a Miniseries or TV movie -- Albert Finney, "The Gathering Storm"; Michael Gambon, "Path to War"; Michael Keaton, "Live from Baghdad"; William H. Macy, "Door to Door"; Linus Roache, "RFK." Supporting Actor in a TV Series, Miniseries or TV Movie -- Alec Baldwin, "Path to War"; Jim Broadbent, "The Gathering Storm"; Bryan Cranston, "Malcolm in the Middle"; Sean Hayes, "Will & Grace"; Dennis Haysbert, "24"; Michael Imperioli, "The Sopranos"; John Spencer, "The West Wing"; Donald Sutherland, "Path to War"; Bradley Whitford, "The West Wing." Supporting Actress in a TV Series, Miniseries or TV Movie -- Kim Cattrall, "Sex and the City"; Megan Mullally, "Will & Grace"; Cynthia Nixon, "Sex and the City"; Parker Posey, "Hell on Heels: The Battle of Mary Kay"; Gena Rowlands, "Hysterical Blindness."

(Karen) But it was excellent, as I told everyone when I saw it way back in October. This is the movie that should be getting all the praise instead of that other one. It got horrible local reviews and only stayed for a week. I missed it. I did want to see it. Will have to wait for video. I'm beside myself as there is so much to see and I have family in town. Am going to work in Far From Heaven and GoNY this week sometime.... I have a somewhat personal question and I hope it is okay...Dorine, how is it that you get to see all the movies prior to their release? I know in the past you have mentioned that you attend Q&As with various directors/actors....just wondering. If I am out of line please let me know.

Hey, whaddya know, old Mr. Paint By Numbers made it in there! Somebody besides me and Linda must like him.;-) Remember, friends, there are no "facts" in these discussions--only subjective opinions. Yeah, now all you have to do is hold the chicken, bring me the toast, give me a check for the chicken salad sandwich, and you haven't broken any rules. --Cliche, Five Easy Pieces ;-);-)

(Tress) It got horrible local reviews and only stayed for a week. While I *do* know where you live, I don't know whose reviews you are reading. It has practically won every "audience" award at film fests and has a 93% fresh rating from the cream of the crop reviewers at Rotten Tomatoes, with an overall fresh rating of 82%. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/RealWomenHaveCurves-1113456/ If it only stayed a week, then it was because it didn't get the word of mouth buzz it should've. Did you rely on the reviews for the Greek Wedding? It only scored in the mid-70%.

Ooof, bad sentence structure. It has won practically every "audience" award at the film fests it has played. [It won at Sundance and many others.]

Here are the major film categories, all in one spot. BEST MOTION PICTURE DRAMA ABOUT SCHMIDT Michael Besman/Harry Gittes Prod.; New Line Cinema GANGS OF NEW YORK Alberto Grimaldi Prods.; Miramax Films THE HOURS Paramount Pictures/Miramax Films; Paramount Pictures THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS Wingnut Films; New Line Cinema THE PIANIST R.P. Prods./Heritage Films/Studio Babelsberg Runteam Ltd./Canal+ and Studio Canal; Focus Features BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTRESS IN A MOTION PICTURE DRAMA Salma Hayek Frida Nicole Kidman The Hours Diane Lane Unfaithful Julianne Moore Far From Heaven Meryl Streep The Hours BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A MOTION PICTURE - DRAMA Adrien Brody The Pianist Michael Caine The Quiet American Daniel Day-Lewis Gangs of New York Leonardo Dicaprio Catch Me if You Can Jack Nicholson About Schmidt BEST MOTION PICTURE - MUSICAL OR COMEDY ABOUT A BOY Tribeca/Working Title; Universal Pictures/Studio Canal ADAPTATION Columbia Pictures/Intermedia Films; Sony Pictures Releasing CHICAGO Producer Circle Co.,/Zadan-Meron Prods.; Miramax Films MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING Gold Circle Films/HBO/Playtone; IFC NICHOLAS NICKLEBY Hart Sharp Entertainment Prods./Cloud Nine Films; United Artists/MGM BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTRESS IN A MOTION PICTURE - MUSICAL OR COMEDY MAGGIE GYLLENHAAL Secretary GOLDIE HAWN The Banger Sisters NIA VARDALOS My Big Fat Greek Wedding RENEE ZELLWEGER Chicago CATHERINE ZETA-JONES Chicago BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A MOTION PICTURE -MUSICAL OR COMEDY NICOLAS CAGE Adaptation KIERAN CULKIN Igby Goes Down RICHARD GERE Chicago HUGH GRANT About a Boy ADAM SANDLER Punch-Drunk Love BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE IN A MOTION PICTURE KATHY BATES About Schmidt CAMERON DIAZ Gangs of New York QUEEN LATIFAH Chicago SUSAN SARANDON Igby Goes Down MERYL STREEP Adaptation BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE IN A MOTION PICTURE CHRIS COOPER Adaptation ED HARRIS The Hours PAUL NEWMAN Road to Perdition DENNIS QUAID Far From Heaven JOHN C. REILLY Chicago BEST DIRECTOR - MOTION PICTURE STEPHEN DALDRY The Hours PETER JACKSON The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers SPIKE JONZE Adaptation ROB MARSHALL Chicago ALEXANDER PAYNE About Schmidt MARTIN SCORSESE Gangs of New York BEST SCREENPLAY - MOTION PICTURE BILL CONDON Chicago DAVID HARE The Hours TODD HAYNES Far From Heaven CHARLIE KAUFMAN AND DONALD KAUFMAN Adaptation ALEXANDER PAYNE AND JIM TAYLOR About Schmidt

I have not seen any of the TV movies except: "Steven Spielberg Presents: Taken" (SCI FI). ;-D (Mari), Remember, friends, there are no "facts" in these discussions--only subjective opinions. Break it to me gently, Mari. ;-) I hope we don't always have to put IMO. And so say all of us, and so say all of us, for he's such a jolly clich�. ;-) I'm going to take a guess on the winners without having seen the films: BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTRESS IN A MOTION PICTURE DRAMA Nicole Kidman The Hours BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A MOTION PICTURE - DRAMA - tie Adrien Brody The Pianist Daniel Day-Lewis Gangs of New York BEST MOTION PICTURE - MUSICAL OR COMEDY CHICAGO Producer Circle Co.,/Zadan-Meron Prods.; Miramax Films BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTRESS IN A MOTION PICTURE - MUSICAL OR COMEDY CATHERINE ZETA-JONES Chicago BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A MOTION PICTURE -MUSICAL OR COMEDY NICOLAS CAGE Adaptation BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE IN A MOTION PICTURE MERYL STREEP Adaptation BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE IN A MOTION PICTURE PAUL NEWMAN Road to Perdition BEST DIRECTOR - MOTION PICTURE MARTIN SCORSESE Gangs of New York BEST SCREENPLAY - MOTION PICTURE CHARLIE KAUFMAN Adaptation BEST MOTION PICTURE DRAMA THE PIANIST

(Karen) While I *do* know where you live, I don't know whose reviews you are reading. It has practically won every "audience" award at film fests and has a 93% fresh rating from the cream of the crop reviewers at Rotten Tomatoes, with an overall fresh rating of 82%. I know! It got great reviews everywhere, but a bad one in my 'home town' (LOL...see the Rotten Tomatoes link you gave me...Kim Morgan, The Oregonian. That's one of the reviews from here). I still want to see it! BTW Mari, love that quote from Five Easy Pieces. One of my all time favorite JN scenes.

Rick Lyman today in the NY Times has an interesting article on the awards and how the small studios so far (this was before the GGs) are grabbing the attention. It's long and you need to register, so I have it available here: http://www.murphsplace.com/lyman.html

"The Hands that Built America" ("Gangs of New York"),music & lyrics by U2 Oooo, I hope not. I didn't like this or think much of the music in the movie fit. I understood his reasoning of what he used, but it was jarring to me. Yeah, now all you have to do is hold the chicken, bring me the toast, give me a check for the chicken salad sandwich, and you haven't broken any rules. --Cliche, Five Easy Pieces LOL! One of my favorites :D (Moon) BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTRESS IN A MOTION PICTURE - MUSICAL OR COMEDY CATHERINE ZETA-JONES Chicago After you see it, you may change your opinion to Renee IMO (insert wicked winkie), as CZJ all but disappeared for a good portion of it. Renee was in it constantly (and excellent). Am mostly in agreement with you. Must go rent Road to Perdition and see Far From Heaven, though.

"The Hands that Built America" ("Gangs of New York"),music & lyrics by U2 (Dorine), Oooo, I hope not. Well, at least there's no John Williams. ;-) (Dorine), After you see it, you may change your opinion to Renee. Renee was in it constantly (and excellent). Am mostly in agreement with you. I'll take your word on RZ. I'm glad you agree since you've seen the movies.

(Moon)I hope we don't always have to put IMO. IMO, maybe we should. LOL! Nah, don't let me spoil your opinionated fun.;-) You know I enjoy the give and take with you girls. Now, I'll go ahead and make your day: I like Al Pacino. I do. And I thought he was great in Insomnia, another performance passed over because the voters have the memories of fleas. IMO.;-) Interesting article, Murph. He makes a good point--increasingly the big studios are under intense profit pressure from their conglomerate parents, and have become almost completely risk-averse. Ergo, "safe" sequels galore and films guaranteed to have big opening weekends from teenage boys. Good thing the right coast is picking up the slack. (Dorine)Renee was in it constantly (and excellent). Is there anything this girl can't do? A tremendous talent, IMO. If I were her, they'd have to throw an awful lot of money at me to persuade me to do BJD2. See disparaging comment on sequels, above.;-) Outta my way, son, you're usin' up my oxygen." --Randle P. McMurphy, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

(Moon) I'm glad you agree since you've seen the movies. But am waiting for the "What the hell were you thinking saying he/she/it was good/bad?" comments once everyone else has seen these flicks. ;-)

If I were her, they'd have to throw an awful lot of money at me to persuade me to do BJD2. See disparaging comment on sequels, above.;-) BJD2 will be a come-down for her at this point in her career. Bound to have better offers. I'm sure it's pure loyalty to Working Title that's she's succumbing. Wonder if Colin looks at these lists and wishes....:-(((

(Dorine)Renee was in it constantly (and excellent). (Mari) Is there anything this girl can't do? A tremendous talent, IMO. If I were her, they'd have to throw an awful lot of money at me to persuade me to do BJD2 Can't remember now whether it's out that she's inked the deal, but if not, would imagine she could ask for a BIG bump up now just for the nom. Not Oscar yet, but wouldn't be surprised if she's there, too.

Someone posted a comment about the costumes from GONY (strange looking appreviation!) and I just looked at a few of the pics with DDL. Was it Dorine who said they are authentic for the period and setting? Even so, they look very strange. I saw one with a group of men in top hats and blue ribbons. But it wasn't just that, there was more to it that seemed 'staged' and I can't say exactly why. Maybe that's the look MS was going for.

(Evelyn) BJD2 will be a come-down for her at this point in her career. I'm not sure I understand why. BJD was a huge hit. I see lots of well-known actors take on big blockbuster flicks and then small art house ones. Do you mean in terms of salary or do you think the role is not 'big enough' for her now? TEoR won't be a 'smaller' film. The role is a major role, even if it doesn't pay what some others would. Or do you think the sequel aspect may follow along, as many other sequels have, and not live up to the original? Hopefully, with the same writing team and others involved, it will be one of those films that proves to be as good, or better than the original.

Of course Jack Nicholson got a Golden Globe nomination. I think that it's in the bylaws of the Hollywood Foreign Press that Jack Nicholson is entitled to an obligatory nomination. *Grin* In all fairness, and reality, he did tie in the best actor category with Daniel Day-Lewis with the Los Angeles Film Critics. He also finished a close second to Day-Lewis in the same category with the New York Critics. I still think that Nicholson is in a rut insofar as his more recent work is concerned. As for those who admire his current body of work; you are in agreement with some people whose opinions are eminently qualified. The famous "chicken salad" scene from "Five Easy Pieces" is a cliche for representing a fact of modern life. Who really hasn't had to deal with a similar situation to that on atleast one, if not several, occasions? I think that the "chicken salad" scene may even have transcended cliche and become iconic, working it's way into not just American popular culture, but the popular culture of the English-speaking world. Much like the phrase "a Charlie Brown Christmas tree". So where am I going with a reference to that sad little tree, which isn't really such a bad little tree? It just needed some love. Why to seasonal greetings, of course! Have a Merry Christmas to all of those who celebrate Christmas. If not, have a wonderful time on the holidays which you observe. One more thing, to everyone, Happy New Year!

Evelyn) BJD2 will be a come-down for her at this point in her career. (Lisa)I'm not sure I understand why. Not many actors like to make sequels when they're on the way up. (I hear Sy Stallone is going to make Rocky VI....puhleeze) She has some interesting roles in the can....She's Ruby in Cold Mountain, Down with Love , a Doris Day redux with Ewan Mc Gregor. Why go to England and go backwards...

(Lisa) Someone posted a comment about the costumes from GONY (strange looking appreviation!) and I just looked at a few of the pics with DDL. Was it Dorine who said they are authentic for the period and setting? Even so, they look very strange. Well I didn't say they were pretty ;-)

(Dorine), But am waiting for the "What the hell were you thinking saying he/she/it was good/bad?" comments once everyone else has seen these flicks. ;-) (Mari), don't let me spoil your opinionated fun.;-) LOL! That's why we get along. :-D (Lisa),Someone posted a comment about the costumes from GONY (strange looking appreviation!) and I just looked at a few of the pics with DDL. Was it Dorine who said they are authentic for the period and setting? Even so, they look very strange. I made that comment from the previews that I saw of GONY. They looked out-of whack to me. Dorine, why do you think they looked authentic? In fact the what I saw looked liked a cartoon. I am sad to report that I was disappointed in The Two Towers. :-( I preferred the first LOTR.

(Moon) I am sad to report that I was disappointed in The Two Towers. :-( I preferred the first LOTR. LOL! That's why we get along. :-D And can agree to disagree! I was bored stiff by the first one. Not a huge fan of the books, but really enjoyed TTT for the most part. At least I was engaged more than 20 mins in this one. Still about 20-30 mins too long, though. (Lisa)Someone posted a comment about the costumes from GONY (strange looking appreviation!) and I just looked at a few of the pics with DDL.....they look very strange. (Moon) I made that comment from the previews that I saw of GONY. They looked out-of whack to me. Dorine, why do you think they looked authentic? In fact the what I saw looked liked a cartoon. Couldn't the outfits worn by today's gangs also be considered "like a cartoon" compared to the way most people dress (excepting some eccentric NY'ers)? With their different colored bandanas/hats and coats, etc? As I remember, Scorsese discussed the costume and set design (as well as the accent on Bill) as authentic as possible in the Q&A he just did with DDL last week. Also found some info in an article in the U-San Bernadino Sun..... But on "Gangs," Ferretti and Lo Schiavo (it's pronounced low-skee-ah-vo) naturally turned to the history books for set inspiration. "A lot of it was made with books over there in New York, from the period," says Ferretti, who found New York's historical society helpful. "Also, a lot came from pictures by (photographer) Jacob Riis." "Gangs" set decorator Lo Schiavo brought out the film's themes from the large-scale illustrations her husband churned out. In many cases, she says, reality meant dirt making sets as dirty as possible to reflect how lower-class people lived in those days. This made the contrast between some of the gangsters' vivid costumes and their environs even more apparent. While they have a bit of a wait before this cycle's Oscar nominations emerge, Ferretti and Lo Schiavo say they've already earned a bit of professional praise that makes up for not winning an Academy Award yet. Writer Luc Sante, author of "Low Life," a 1992 book that dug back into the 19th-century New York gangs, saw their movie, Ferretti says. Sante also worked as a consultant on the "Gangs" and he liked their work. "He saw it and he said, 'Oh my gosh, this is exactly what he described,'" Ferretti remembers. "I think people will see it and then decide if they like it." Scorsese did mention going to the Historical Society and some of the books they used. They may not be authentic down to the last thread. I believe the number of gangs had to be condensed for the movie as well, so possible elements of several gangs were incorporated into a few. I've read so many articles about the movie, I don't remember where I saw what.

Oh yeah, and one more thing...Antwone Fisher. Have plenty O' Kleenex on hand with this one. Mostly near the end. And to Denzel Washington on his directorial debut...well done! Well done, indeed! The guy that played the title character was great. And of course DW was very good as well. Not a lot of range for his character, though. I thought it was an engrossing movie. Didn't explore the issue with DW's character and his wife enough and quickly explained it away at the end. Went into it blind for the most part. Knew Antwone Fisher was in the Navy and had to go see a psychiatrist played by DW. That was pretty much it. Didn't know he was a real person and wrote it, too. And a co-producing credit! Poor kid. It's not all sadness and tears (unless you're ultrasensitive). It's an interesting story.

Am surprised no one has mentioned the huge omission in the Best Drama category - one of the most critically acclaimed films of the year.

Besides Road to Perdition?

We interrupt these seemingly endless awards reports to bring you a bulletin from Contern Luxembourg. We join our hero nimbly perched atop a boulder along a fake canal wardrobed in regulation red fright wig, puffy pants, tights, curly shoes and pointed hat. CF:(mobile pressed against ear) Si mi amore! A combined total of 100 nominations for DiCaprio, Jack and Day-Lewis. Their movies haven't even been released yet. I could jump in the canal. What do they have they I don't have? LD: hmmphy, hmmph, hmmphy,hmmph, hmmphy, hmmph? CF: What was that, you're breaking up....Hollywood Friends, Hollywood Friends, Hollywood Friends....Oh. LD:hmmphy, hmmph, hmmphh ,mmph piggy wiggies CF: I know to think I could have had an Oscar for My Left Foot but I refused the toe painting audition. The rest is history. LD: hmmphy, mmphy, hmmphy, mmph tippy-tap, tippy-tap. CF: I don't think a cobbler shop in Umbria would be a good marketing tool mi amore. Besides you know I could never keep the family in shoes. LD: mmph, hmmphy,mmph, mmmphy shake! shake !shake! CF: Yes, I'm still very disappointed about the Chicago role. That Zeta-Jones is a real competitor. LD:hmmphy,mmphy, hmmphy, wee! wee! wee! CF: What do I do for fun around here? After a long days shoot, I go back to my room, get undressed and pop in a video cassette of the Ealing studios logo. It makes me tingly all over. LD: hmmpphy, mmphy mmph, mmph, slosh, slosh, slosh! CF: I don't know if I can summon the courage to walk down the virtual red carpet for the BAFTAS this year. The ABOUT A BOY role should have been mine. HUGE is a shoe-in. LD: hmmphy, mmph, hmmph, mmphy tippy... CF:No, for the last time we cannot open a cobler shop in Umbria. Well look, I think they're calling me for my big scene where I get to touch Griet's cheek. LD: hhmmphy, hmmph, hmmphy, hmmph, no,no,no CF: Yes, I'm wearing a condom under my puffy pants. Gotta go. Te amo. Ciao.

Pffffftttttttttt.......!!!!!!!!!! kathleen, have you been drinking?????? Laughing all the way to bed, it being late here in the end of oz.

land of..yes yes, I KNOW Karen..........

Very funny, Kathleen! (Dorine), Couldn't the outfits worn by today's gangs also be considered "like a cartoon" compared to the way most people dress Point well taken. I would certainly take those old ones to the way they dress today. Those gigantic Frankenstein sneakers with no socks and those ridiculous basketball players outfits? How could a girl ever be turned on by that? And to top it off, the shaved heads? I balme Michael Jordan and the rest of his clowns for starting it. This generation of kids lack personality. I say rebel and go back to 19th Century dress. ;-D Hell, I much prefer the hippy outfits. (Lucky for me my boys are preppie) phew!

NY TIMES review for GoNY http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/20/movies/20GANG.html?8mu "This is historical filmmaking without the balm of right-thinking ideology, either liberal or conservative. Mr. Scorsese's bravery and integrity in advancing this vision can hardly be underestimated. This movie was a long time in the making, but its life has barely begun..."

I go back to my room, get undressed and pop in a video cassette of the Ealing studios logo. It makes me tingly all over. Well look, I think they're calling me for my big scene where I get to touch Griet's cheek. Yes, I'm wearing a condom under my puffy pants. Major morning chortles here. Brava, Kathleeen!!

Thanks for posting that Evelyn. Read most of it last night online and thought it was a very accurate and appreciated.

(Dorine) Besides Road to Perdition? Yeah

From Empire: Critics' Choice 20/12/2002 Not to be outdone by the Golden Globe nominations yesterday, the London Film Critics Circle have now gone and weighed in with their pick of the year's cinematic offerings ready for their 23rd annual awards at the capital's Dorchester Hotel this February. Celebrating the best in both British and international film, the nominations mirror the Golden Globes' choice of Alexander Payne's About Schmidt as one of the stand out films of the year which joins Bowling for Columbine, the Aussie drama Lantana, Mendes' Road to Perdition and our personal favourite Donnie Darko. But there's no place for The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers. Peter Jackson will just have to be happy with a nomination in the Best Director category. Less dominated by a mere handful of films than the Globe list, the Critics Circle's selection is a more inclusive bag all together with nods going towards a wide array of fantastic films. A fair summation of the classiest acts of the year, we reckon. British Film of the Year About a Boy All or Nothing Sweet Sixteen Film of the Year About Schmidt Bowling for Columbine Donnie Darko Lantana The Road to Perdition Foreign Language Film of the Year The Son�s Room Talk to Her Y tu mama tambien British Director of the Year Mike Leigh - All or Nothing Sam Mendes - Road to Perdition Christopher Nolan - Insomnia Director of the Year Pedro Almodovar - Talk to Her Peter Jackson - Lord of the Rings:The Two Towers Phillip Noyce - The Quiet American British Actor of the Year Chiwetel Ejiofor - Dirty Pretty Things Ralph Fiennes - Spider Hugh Grant - About a Boy Actor of the Year Michael Caine - The Quiet American Jack Nicholson - About Schmidt Al Pacino � Insomnia British Actress of the Year Lesley Manville - All or Nothing Samantha Morton - Morven Callar Miranda Richardson � Spider Actress of the Year Kerry Armstrong - Lantana Halle Berry - Monster�s Ball Stockard Channing - The Business of Strangers British Actor of the Year in a Supporting Role Paul Bettany A Beautiful Mind Kenneth Branagh Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets Jude Law Road to Perdition British Actress of the Year in a Supporting Role Shirley Henderson 24 Hour Party People Ruth Sheen All or Nothing Emily Watson Red Dragon British Newcomer of the Year Martin Compson - Sweet Sixteen Asif Kapadia - The Warrior Keira Knightley - Bend It Like Beckham British Screenwriter of the Year Steven Knight - Dirty Pretty Things Paul Laverty - Sweet Sixteen Mike Leigh - All or Nothing Screenwriter of the Year Andrew Bovell - Lantana David Self - Road to Perdition Nia Vardalos - My Big Fat Greek Wedding

An article about Alex Kingston, mentions Andrew Davies and has this inexplicable quote "Efforts at similar costume dramas, such as Pride and Prejudice with Colin Firth, have proved worthy, but not as popular." Wot?! Article - http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/12/20/nboad20.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/12/20/ixhome.html

British Actor of the Year Chiwetel Ejiofor - Dirty Pretty Things Surprising choice. I saw this and liked him, but... British Actor of the Year in a Supporting Role Kenneth Branagh Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets LOL. I really liked him in this. How is their "year" determined? Some of these are last year's? A Beautiful Mind? Monster's Ball?

The London Critics go by when a film "actually" opens in the UK, unlike what Bafta has now done to bring the films into line with what is eligible for an Oscar.

(Karen) Am surprised no one has mentioned the huge omission in the Best Drama category - one of the most critically acclaimed films of the year. I'm going to say "Minority Report"....

one of the most critically acclaimed films of the year. Far From Heaven. I think they're calling me for my big scene where I get to touch Griet's cheek. LOL, Kathleen! I hope this isn't eclipsed by his other big scene where he gets to Look At Griet Longingly And Convey Repressed Emotion. And you people criticize Jack for donig the same ole, same ole?;-) ;-) Thanks for the Times review, Evelyn. What a beautifully and thoughtfully written piece. Kudos to the London critics for recognizing Insomnia, Al Pacino and Chris Nolan. Oh, and Jack, too.:-)

Far From Heaven Give the young lady a kewpie doll. And just think, a year from now, Kathleen can write another little story about how overjoyed Colin/LD are for all the nominations he'll be receiving for WAGW: Best Actor Supporting an American Teenage TV Actress, Best Actor Supporting Children on Two Continents, Best Actor Reprising British Stereotypical Roles, etc. Ooooh, cannot wait. ;-)

(Mari) Far From Heaven (Karen) Give the young lady a kewpie doll. LOL...I'm just going to stay out of this until I see a few more of the movies...I saw "Far From Heaven" in the list, just assumed it was nom'd for Best Picture (it was Julianne Moore).

*Laughing through my tears, Karen!* I still say 2003 might be the year he finally nabs that MTV award--"Category: Best, Like, Old Guy" Tress, actually Minority Report would have been my other guess. Entertainment Weekly puts together an annual list of the best reviewed films (based on about 10 critics from around the country), and MR was in 5th place, I think.

MTV award--"Category: Best, Like, Old Guy" Didn't they retire this category because Jack kept winning, year after year? ;-)

I was about to say "Heaven", but at least I would've been partly right ;)

(Mari), his other big scene where he gets to Look At Griet Longingly And Convey Repressed Emotion. And you people criticize Jack for donig the same ole, same ole?;-) ;-) You got us there! LOL! Miami Herald gave GONY 2 1/2 stars, and this guy loves MS. Gave Adaptation the max 4 stars. Read at http://www.miami.com go to arts. Gotta run to the elementary school for a party.

Thank you all for the award lists and interesting article. What a good day. My personal faves are RZ Chicago and DDL. They say he is astounding. Kathleen, marvelous LOL.

(Mari), his other big scene where he gets to Look At Griet Longingly And Convey Repressed Emotion. And you people criticize Jack for donig the same ole, same ole?;-) ;-) (Moon)You got us there! LOL! Ah, maybe so, but I would MUCH rather watch ODB doing same ole, same ole, the view is so much more agreeable. ;-)

Got to see CoNY this aft. Have to agree with the critics on everything. Yes, DDL is magnificent, but I'll post those comments on his topic. This movie will stand the test of time.I was particularly interested because it's my neighborhood...the 18th precinct. Nice to know what it looked like in 1863 . Yikes! However, for my taste it was v. v. gory and a tad long. I still prefer RTP. I felt "Gangs" was dragged in parts and RTP's story is tighter. I was lost at times in "Gangs". Aesthically I prefer Sam Mendes' theatre. But this is worth seeing. ~~~~~~~~~~~ LOL. Karen. Perhaps MTV will also give him "Father of the Year".He seems to be on that kick.

I've heard Govida chocolates mentioned in Fanfic a number of times, and until recently, hadn't had the opportunity to try them. Then my DH and I spent the weekend in Brussels, and he bought me a box - absolutely delicious!! The other day, he returned from a business meeting in London. One of the Belgian delegates brought with him an enormous box of Godiva chocolates which they all tucked into. Did he save any for me? Did he hell!! Arghh!!!

Beginning reports on the nominated films... I've seen About Schmidt. And my response is: What *is* the big deal? Yes, it's an enjoyable movie and Jack is v.g. but still what is the big deal here. It's about a man who, after retiring, wonders what his life has all been about and has he mattered. Yeah, so? The men (mature one especially) really laughed themselves silly on this one. Lots to identify with. But I kept wondering would a movie about a 66-year-old woman in a similar situation even get made let alone be considered for such acclaim. I expect that one to be shown on the Lifetime channel. :-( And the trailer is completely misleading on this one. From that, you'd expect it all to be about when he meets the fruitcake family his daughter is marrying into. That's only about the last half hour of the film. It is all About Schmidt. He is the entire film. Everybody else is a minor character here. Jack is the film and no doubt accounts for his nomination, and he is not doing the cliched Jack of old, as he's a man in nearly a catatonic state or at least looks like it. Good film, well made but not IMO an Oscar-class Best Picture of year.

As far as themes go, did we not just see this (and more) in American Beauty?

(Karen)The men (mature one especially) really laughed themselves silly on this one. Ahem...rated #1 in "Modern Maturity";-)He's their poster boy....no kidding.

(Karen), I've seen About Schmidt. And my response is: What *is* the big deal? I saw that coming. This is a film that can be a rental, IMO. (note to Mari);-) (Evelyn), Have to agree with the critics on everything. Have all the critics been saying the same thing?

This hardly seems to fit here, with all the film talk (hey, Karen, maybe we should have a separate topic for birthday celebrations???), but I wanted to mention that there's a Drool birthday coming up this coming week (Dorine, on December 24), but we've decided to delay the party knowing that a lot of people won't be around. We'll celebrate on January 2.

(Evelyn), Have to agree with the critics on everything. (Moon)Have all the critics been saying the same thing? All the ones I read.

Toronto Film Critics Association Awards Best Film Adaptation. (Columbia) Directed by Spike Jonze Runners-Up: Punch-Drunk Love (Columbia) Directed by Paul Thomas Anderson Y Tu Mam� Tambi�n (IFC FIlms) Directed by Alfonson Cuar�n Best Male Performance Nicolas Cage, Adaptation. (Columbia) Runners-Up: Daniel Day-Lewis, Gangs Of New York (Miramax) Jack Nicholson, About Schmidt (New Line) Best Female Performance Julianne Moore, Far From Heaven (Focus) Runners-Up: Maggie Gyllenhaal, Secretary (Lions Gate) Isabelle Huppert, The Piano Teacher (Kino) Best Male Supporting Performance Chris Cooper, Adaptation. (Columbia) Runners-Up: Paul Newman, Road To Perdition (DreamWorks) Dennis Quaid, Far From Heaven (Focus) Best Female Supporting Performance Emily Watson, Punch-Drunk Love (Columbia) Runners-Up: Kathy Bates, About Schmidt (New Line) Toni Collette, About A Boy (Universal) Best Director Paul Thomas Anderson, Punch-Drunk Love (Columbia) Runners-Up: Alfonso Cuar�n, Y Tu Mam� Tambi�n (IFC Films) Todd Haynes, Far From Heaven (Focus Films) Best Screenplay Charlie and Donald Kaufman, Adaptation. (Columbia) Runners-Up: David Hare, The Hours (Paramount) Paul Thomas Anderson, Punch-Drunk Love (Columbia) Best Documentary Bowling For Columbine (MGM) Directed by Michael Moore Runners-Up: Gambling, Gods & L.S.D. (Odeon) Directed by Peter Mettler Standing In The Shadows Of Motown (Artisan) Directed by Paul Justman Best First Feature Atanarjuat (The Fast Runner) (Lot 47) Directed by Zacharias Kunuk Runners-Up: Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind (Miramax) Directed by George Clooney Igby Goes Down (MGM) Directed by Burr Steers Best Canadian Film Atanarjuat (The Fast Runner) (Lot 47) Directed by Zacharias Kunuk Runners-Up: Un Crabe Dans La T�te (Film Tonic) Directed by Andr� Turpin F.U.B.A.R. (Odeon) Directed by Michael Dowse Special Citation for Best Film Not To Receive A Proper Theatrical Release in Canada Donnie Darko Directed by Richard Kelly

(Moon)I saw that coming. This is a film that can be a rental, IMO. (note to Mari);-) I will have to see it myself before deciding whether it's a rental.;-) ;-) Off to see GONY . . .

(Moon)I saw that coming. This is a film that can be a rental, IMO. (note to Mari);-) (Mari)I will have to see it myself before deciding whether it's a rental.;-) ;-) Speaking of rentals...."Maid in Manhattan" Believe the critics. Baaad. Though not as bad as "The Avengers". More on Rafe on #40 Basically , another teen-flick. To prove:They showed the trailer of WAGW. Colin has cute smile after Amanda's Bee Gees comment.

(Evelyn) Colin has cute smile after Amanda's Bee Gees comment. He sure does. Does anybody know if the WAGW trailer is also being shown with TWN?

Yes, the WAGW trailer was shown with TWN; both are WB films. Overall, I liked GoNY except three things: (1) Last shot. Could see it coming from a mile away and was silently praying he wouldn't do it. Wish they hadn't succumbed to the maudlin. (2) The musical score, except U2's song at end. (3) can't remember. Know there were three things. Gaah! But will come back to me. I had no trouble with the gore, the accents, or the costumes, although I was having a hard time trying to figure out what kind of underground cavernl they could be living in behind the church's facade. Caverns? Isn't NY built on very hard limestone, which made digging the subways and setting the foundations for the skyscrapers very difficult. Where are these caverns? :-( DDL was great and I managed to accept even Cameron Diaz. Loved seeing all sorts of other actors here and there, but in reading the credits, I missed David Bamber and Tim Pigott-Smith. And I believe we saw why barber shops eventually had to close on election days. LOL!

(Karen) Yes, the WAGW trailer was shown with TWN; both are WB films. Thanks for the report. I know they're both from WB, but it didn't necessarily follow that they'd promote WAGW before TWN, as opposed to other upcoming WB movies. Seems like they're starting very early with WAGW - most of the other WB movies that were promoted with HP were due out within about 4-6 weeks.

I liked GONY very much. Thought it was a bit long, but I honestly don't have a suggestion about how they could have cut it. I thought the performances were all very good. Bill the Butcher has all the best lines, and DDL delivers a very memorable performance. WHOOPS-A DAISY!;-) I also thought Leo was very good--he has the far less flashy but, in a way, more difficult role. Not a scenery chewing role. Thought Cameron Diaz was fine. Re: the Butcher's accent--none of the others--even the so-called "natives" spoke like that. I think it was a DDL invention that actually does work well--his lines are funnier with it. Bill has that eloquent vocabulary and it sounds funny juxtaposed with the accent he used. (1) Last shot. Could see it coming from a mile away and was silently praying he wouldn't do it. Wish they hadn't succumbed to the maudlin. To me, it didn't come off as maudlin. Yes we see the towers in the background, but I think the larger point was what's in the foreground. The gravestones are knocked over and unkept; in the final analysis, these guys were forgotten and unimportant. (2) The musical score, except U2's song at end. For me the U-2 song--while a good one--didn't work at all. It's called "The Hands That Built America." Huh? I figured maybe Scorsese was being ironic. By the time my people came here in the early 1900s, they were lucky there was an America left, after these hoodlums. These guys built nothing. A great city--and the most pluralistic society in the world--was built despite them. Toward the end, we can see that Bill's time has passed. Anyway, a very worthwhile and thought-provoking film. Thumbs up from me.

OK, maybe not maudlin, but trite. And yes, I noticed the gravestones were all gone. I would've preferred they not update the cityscape. And, as I said on the DDL topic, most of the "natives" were not native born, like Bill. Despite his prejudices, he did take in that scum that slid off the gangplanks. These guys built nothing. A great city--and the most pluralistic society in the world--was built despite them. Eoww! I would vociferously disagree. Boss Tweed was part of that and was a very lasting influence in the way all the major cities were ultimately run and built. I very much enjoyed seeing the American political machine in its early days.

I was talking about the gangs. They contributed nothing, except mayhem. Contrast with the other millions of law-abiding immigrants.

So has anyone seen Adaptation? I'm going today. :-)

Try "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn." ;-) I do disagree about the gangs, as they've always been an important fiber of our urban development and the immigrant experience. They've continued (can you say Godfather or Once Upon a Time in America?) and still exist. I noticed things like the gang colors and apparel, no different from today. Which reminds me, where do you get a gang jacket for the Plug Uglies? ;-) Contrast with the other millions of law-abiding immigrants. I don't disagree, but I don't think that is what the movie and the last shot were all about. Of course I can be wrong. Let's have Dorine ask Marty next time she sees him. ;-)

they've always been an important fiber of our urban development and the immigrant experience. For the small minority. But that's the group he chose to focus on and make a movie about, and that's fine. Just as Coppola made films about the Mafia. I don't disagree, but I don't think that is what the movie and the last shot were all about. I don't think that's what the film is about either, was just throwing my view in there.:-)

Seasonal Topic: ...To All!

I wonder if he threw in that ending after 9/11. It did sort of go into a Nova documentary mode. I missed Mr. Colins too...but with all that dirt and grime doubt I would have recognized him. Cameron Diaz has come a long way . In this month's Vanity Fair she credits Scorsese for her perfomance. Says he draws the best out of the actors.

(Evelyn) I missed Mr. Colins too...but with all that dirt and grime doubt I would have recognized him. In the credits, he's listed as gentleman on the omnibus, which I'm guessing was the streetcar Cameron Diaz used for Madison Ave. He might have been the guy sitting next to her who tried to pick her up, cause she was such a lady.

Murph, thanks for the Holiday cheer although Colin looks like he's behind bars. LOL! Or maybe those red fingernails keep him there. ;-) I saw Adaptation. I was very disappointed! It was very self-indulgent and not that funny. It is such a mystery to me why the critics ignored his last film Human Nature, which is absolutely brilliant and they're raving about this one. If I lose faith in CK, who else is left for me to like in Hollywood? I can see a best supporting actor nomination there. Merry Christmas to the lovely Firthettes!

Unbelievable parties this year!!! Great job Thanks everyone!!!

Happy Holidays to you all !!

To all of you who had a birthday this past year, Happy Birthday. :-P New Year's resolution: learn how to upload pictures via my Yahoo-ey address. Mery Christmas to my fellow Firthlings.

A very Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it! Too bad about Adaptation, Moon. Sounds like a rental.;-) My son saw LOTR--TTT and said it was a big bore. Thank goodness he was old enough this year to go with his friends so I didn't have to sit through it as I did last year . . . zzzzzzz. Bring on Chicago and Catch Me If You Can!:-)

(Mari) Too bad about Adaptation, Moon. Sounds like a rental.;-) LOL! Actually, I give it a big thumbs up. It was "originally derivative." ;-) But I don't think most of my audience understood what was going on in the third act. I was laughing; they appeared to be taking it seriously. Excellent performances and v. funny. Brian Cox was so much better than Tom Cruise (Magnolia) as the guru/huckster seminar king. I'm looking forward to The Hours. Opens here on Friday. Yesssssssssss!!

(Karen), But I don't think most of my audience understood what was going on in the third act. That was the only salvable part. Saw too many films in this one. Not as original as he normally is. Talk about Deux ex machina!!! I'm looking forward to The Hours. Opens here on Friday. Me too! (Mari) Too bad about Adaptation, Moon. Sounds like a rental.;-) Indeed it is. If anyone is looking for a great film to rent for the Holidays, I suggest "Human Nature," it is a hoot!

(Moon) If anyone is looking for a great film to rent for the Holidays, I suggest "Human Nature," it is a hoot! Where do you find these films? Me thinks you make them up;-)

Ok, so maybe Adaptation is one of those that I have to see for myself before deciding upon rental vs. theater.;-) The Hours doesn't open here for at least another week.:-( Will be heading to NYC for a long weekend--have tickets for Baz's La Boheme!:-)

In my surfing around for Crowe news each day, I came across a bit about Heath Ledger and how he likes older women. Naomi Watts is his current squeeze, but a past one was.... Lisa Zane! I hadn't seen her name for dog's years, though my huuby who keeps up with cable films, says she is still making movies. Mari! La Boheme! Let us know how it was. My list of films still to see is: GONY (later this week) Rabbit Proof Fence Talk To Her The Hours I had wanted to see Adaptation for Chris Cooper and Meryl Streep, but now I'm not so sure.

Rabbit Proof Fence is fantastic. (have seen it twice) You will be amazed at eerily similar KB's part is to Heydrich's. The girl who plays Molly is wonderful. Now, *that* is a child actor who should get some recognition, but I guess she isn't as Hollywood "cute" as a Dakota Fanning or Haley Joel Osment. :-(

Thank you all for the imaginative, so very funny, and graphically astonishing postings. It is always such a pleasure to enjoy the wonderful talent that gathers here. Happy Holidays.

Just a quick Merry Xmas to all who celebrate! For all those who will be traveling, especially in the big storm, be careful and take your time. :-)

It's snowing! Heavily! Take it away Bing . . . I'm dreaming of a White Christmas . . . Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Happy Holidays Everyone

I understand Time Magazine said The Hours was the worst film of the year. You should read today's review in the NY Times! Totally the opposite. Warning -- Spoilers.... December 27, 2002 Who's Afraid Like Virginia Woolf? By STEPHEN HOLDEN In "The Hours" Nicole Kidman tunnels like a ferret into the soul of a woman besieged by excruciating bouts of mental illness. As you watch her wrestle with the demon of depression, it is as if its torment has never been shown on the screen before. Directing her desperate, furious stare into the void, her eyes not really focusing, Ms. Kidman, in a performance of astounding bravery, evokes the savage inner war waged by a brilliant mind against a system of faulty wiring that transmits a searing, crazy static into her brain. But since that woman is the English writer Virginia Woolf (a prosthetic nose helps Ms. Kidman achieve an uncanny physical resemblance), her struggle is a losing battle. On March 28, 1941, Woolf, hounded by inner voices while in the throes of her fourth breakdown, put a stone in her pocket and drowned herself in the Ouse River near the English country house she shared with her husband, Leonard. And in the opening scene of "The Hours," the eloquent, somber screen adaptation of Michael Cunningham's meditation on that suicide (it won the 1998 Pulitzer Prize for fiction), Woolf scrawls an anguished farewell letter to her husband, then hurries into the muddy water like Joan of Arc embracing the fire, accompanied by the churning, ethereal strains of Philip Glass's score. The deeply moving film, directed by Stephen Daldry ("Billy Elliot") from a screenplay by David Hare that cuts to the bone, is an amazingly faithful screen adaptation of a novel that would seem an unlikely candidate for a movie. A delicate, layered reflection that skips around through time, "The Hours," which opens today in New York, is Mr. Cunningham's homage to Woolf's first great novel, "Mrs. Dalloway," published in 1925. Woolf's novel details a day in the life of Clarissa Dalloway, a conventional upper-class Englishwoman giving a party, who experiences nagging intimations of the more adventurous life she might have led. On the same day, Septimus Warren Smith, a character in the novel whom she never meets but with whom she shares some of the same observations, commits suicide. Five years ago "Mrs. Dalloway" was adapted into a shallow, unsatisfying film starring Vanessa Redgrave. In accomplishing the virtually impossible feat of bringing to the screen that novel's introspective essence, the director and the screenwriter of "The Hours" have righted a wrong, albeit by proxy, through Mr. Cunningham's intuitive channeling. A central idea animating "Mrs. Dalloway" and embodied in its stream-of-consciousness language is that people who never meet, like Clarissa Dalloway and Septimus Warren Smith, are connected by experiencing the same external events. "The Hours" extends that idea through the decades to celebrate the timelessness of great literature by placing the author, her fictional alter ego and two of her latter-day readers in the same sphere of consciousness. Interweaving flashbacks from Woolf's life as she was writing "Mrs. Dalloway" with scenes from the lives of Laura Brown (Julianne Moore), a Southern California housewife and mother in 1951, and Clarissa Vaughan (Meryl Streep), a New York book editor living in contemporary Greenwich Village, their stories blend into a lofty, mystical theme and variations on Woolf's novel. Laura, who is depressed and agitated, is reading "Mrs. Dalloway" on the same day she is baking a birthday cake for her husband, Dan (John C. Reilly), a blunt, hale World War II veteran who dotes on her and barely notices her anguish. Observing and absorbing Laura's distress is her timid, fiercely clinging young son, Richie (Jack Rovello). While baking the cake, Laura receives a surprise visit from a brightly perky neighbor, Kitty (Toni Collette), who is about to go into the hospital to be tested for cancer and admits she's frightened. Meanwhile, in New York, Clarissa Vaughan (named after Woolf's character) is planning a celebration for her closest friend, Richard Brown (Ed Harris), a poet in the advanced stages of AIDS who has just won a prestigious award. As the movie folds these stories together, it emerges that Richard is Laura's grown-up son. And in a huge risk that pays off, the movie gives the dying poet a sudden flashback to the scared little boy he was (and fundamentally still is). Another bold surreal touch imagines Laura lying on a bed that's suddenly engulfed by the river that took Woolf. Clarissa and Richard were lovers when they were younger, but both eventually chose partners of the same sex. Richard had a long affair with Louis Waters (Jeff Daniels), now a college professor in San Francisco, who shows up for the celebration of the award. Clarissa has lived for years with a woman, Sally Lester (Allison Janney), and has a college-age daughter, Julia (Claire Danes), from an unknown sperm donor. Woolf herself was attracted to both men and women, and although her literary alter ego, Mrs. Dalloway, is married to a member of Parliament, on the day of the party her mind darts back to a kiss exchanged with another woman years earlier. In the movie, Woolf's sister Vanessa Bell (Miranda Richardson) visits from London with her family. And Woolf, in a moment of panic, plants a desperate, passionate kiss on Vanessa's mouth. In California, Laura Brown spontaneously reaches out to Kitty with a lingering kiss that is more than polite. Some of the movie's most wrenching moments show Leonard Woolf (Stephen Dillane) frantically reaching out to his troubled wife and being rebuffed. It's not that the Woolfs don't love each other, but the agony Virginia is enduring can't be touched by love or reason. These moments bring home the film's deepest and most intimidating insight about the essential aloneness of the individual and its feminist corollary: that appearances to the contrary, women in their deepest selves do not and should not define themselves in terms of men. Clarissa is the most grounded character, probably because she has been the truest to her instincts and has the most love to give back. When Richard, whose good days have dwindled to none, accuses Clarissa (whom he calls Mrs. Dalloway) of forcing him to stay alive, it's obviously true. Mr. Harris, more than matching his tumultuous performance in "Pollock," creates a wrenching, incendiary portrait of a man ravaged with illness, who thrashes with rage and bitterness, his emotions burning out of control like a torched oil slick on a contaminated lake. Ms. Streep's frayed, moody Clarissa is no hovering, haloed angel of mercy but an intensely self-aware, vulnerable urbanite worn down by her efforts to do the right thing. Through Ms. Streep's performance, the movie captures, like no film I can remember, the immediate, continuing interaction of experience and memory in the instinctive human drive to infuse the moment with meaning and value. Ms. Moore's Laura, although a reader, lacks Clarissa's or Richard's literary armament and is the more vulnerable for it. A wistful, frightened creature embarrassed by her own china-doll fragility, she longs to escape a life that feels all wrong but has little notion of where to go or what to do. Ms. Moore brings to the role the same luminous demureness that colors her portrayal of an innocent, well-meaning Connecticut housewife whose world shatters in "Far From Heaven." All these brooding, complicated people are prototypical Woolfian figures blessed and afflicted with the same feverish imaginations, perplexing ambiguities and brightly etched memories of their younger, more hopeful selves. Yet for all its sexual complexity, "The Hours" is not really about sex. The film, like the novel, is a sustained meditation on connection, human possibility, the elusive dream of happiness and the sometimes seductive call of death. Although suicide eventually tempts three of the film's characters, "The Hours" is not an unduly morbid film. Clear eyed and austerely balanced would be a more accurate description, along with magnificently written and acted. Mr. Glass's surging minimalist score, with its air of cosmic abstraction, serves as ideal connective tissue for a film that breaks down temporal barriers. Appropriately it is Woolf who has the definitive final word on the questions lurking in the backs of the minds of the film's characters with their flickering life forces. Leonard Woolf, querying his wife about her decision to kill off a character in "Mrs. Dalloway," asks her why. She answers carefully, "Someone has to die that the rest of us should value life more." "The Hours" is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned) for strong language and disturbing images of disease. THE HOURS Directed by Stephen Daldry; written by David Hare, based on the novel by Michael Cunningham; director of photography, Seamus McGarvey; edited by Peter Boyle; music by Philip Glass; production designer, Maria Djurkovic; produced by Scott Rudin and Robert Fox; released by Paramount Pictures. Running time: 110 minutes. This film is rated PG-13. WITH: Nicole Kidman (Virginia Woolf), Julianne Moore (Laura Brown), Meryl Streep (Clarissa Vaughan), Stephen Dillane (Leonard Woolf), Miranda Richardson (Vanessa Bell), John C. Reilly (Dan Brown), Jack Rovello (Richie), Toni Collette, (Kitty), Ed Harris (Richard Brown), Allison Janney (Sally Lester), Claire Danes (Julia Vaughan) and Jeff Daniels (Louis Waters).

Thanks, Murph for the good wishes. Will check the actual one out later. Evelyn, 'ugs back at ya! I hope your friends aren't representative of what I'm to expect in men now, nice as friendly as they appear. ;-) And Harv! What a ple...er, an unexpected surprise! How did you get in here? Is your name on the list with the girl at the door with the clipboard? Nice of you to *finally* acknowledge my presence when we're in the same room. Thought I'd have to start resorting to tripping you get you to speak to me rather than just looking at me like I don't belong. Since it's my birthday (1 1/2 weeks ago), I have a second question for you.....What's up with your marketing plan? Is it possible that when you release that movie with Colin that's worthy of his talent, you could put it in more than 2 theaters per state for more than 2 weeks at a time? Gas is going to get a whole lot more expensive soon. BTW, nice job on Chicago! Lizza....had to give up those pretty, yet unpractical corsets and frilly things. Can't do it alone.....though when the fashion show is over, maybe the model can help. But wait! *slapping head* I shouldn't be asking him to help put clothes on.... Hey Armand...nice breeches there. ;-P Just hold that pose. And big thanks to the hostesses....my Latte Diva sisters for organizing this swanky tea party and fashion show!

Thanks, Murph for the good wishes. Will check the actual one out later. Evelyn, 'ugs back at ya! I hope your friends aren't representative of what I'm to expect in men now, nice as friendly as they appear. ;-) And Harv! What a ple...er, an unexpected surprise! How did you get in here? Is your name on the list with the girl at the door with the clipboard? Nice of you to *finally* acknowledge my presence when we're in the same room. Thought I'd have to start resorting to tripping you get you to speak to me rather than just looking at me like I don't belong. Since it's my birthday (1 1/2 weeks ago), I have a second question for you.....What's up with your marketing plan? Is it possible that when you release that movie with Colin that's worthy of his talent, you could put it in more than 2 theaters per state for more than 2 weeks at a time? Gas is going to get a whole lot more expensive soon. BTW, nice job on Chicago! Lizza....had to give up those pretty, yet unpractical corsets and frilly things. Can't do it alone.....though when the fashion show is over, maybe the model can help. But wait! *slapping head* I shouldn't be asking him to help put clothes on.... Hey Armand...nice breeches there. ;-P Just hold that pose. And big thanks to the hostesses....my Latte Diva sisters for organizing this swanky tea party and fashion show!

Happy Birthday Dorine and thanks for all your info over the year! Knowing that the Queen just made her annual awards, I think we need our own here and you should be the first recipient for services rendered and in honor of your birthday. Perhaps some graphically inclined drooleur would want to design a Drool Meritorious Service award (with palm leaf clusters.) I think that would be a fitting commemorative! And thanks to the Latte Divas for the floor show...I mean fashion show! Is tucking appropriate?

Dorine, happy birthday! What a firthwhile fashion show in your honor! Hope you understood the analogy I was making the other day on 166 between us and ladies from TIOBE :-) Shall we be calling each other (Firth) sisters now? Anyway sometimes my parodies don't come off as well as I intend. So from one firth sister to another: Happy birthday and many more happy returns!

Happy birthday, Dorine! I left you another message but I think it's in another time zone because of the problem with the url. Anyway I hope you understood the analogy I was trying to make on 166 the other day between us and the ladies of TIOBE. But sometimes my parodies don't work that well... So I hope will shall be calling each other (Firth) sisters now. From one firthy sis to another: Happy birthday and many happy returns! Also thanks for the firthwhile fashion show in your honor (to the latte girls, Rika, and you). All the best to you!

MANY MANY HAPPY RETURNS OF THE DAY, DORINE AND MANY MANY MORE. What a great party ladies!!! and the guests !!!! You lucky girl you. This is much more fun than New Year's Eve!!!! Rika, outstanding party, as usual. Never realized how much fun tea could be.

HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY DORINE !!!! What wonderful guests at your marvelous tea party/fashion show. Must say the model looks vaguely familiar. Although I seem to recall him posing without clothing on occassions. As usual Rika, great job. Absolutely wonderful. I posted before but don't know where it went. Great job everyone.

Happy Birthday Dorine and a very lbelatedHappy Birthday to Elizabeth

If you're reading this you are on the *new* server. Thre is confusion now because some of you are getting to the old server and some are making it to the new server like Lucie, FanPam and Barb. Congratulations to you for making it over to the "other side". There are going to be some missing posts that didn't make it over from the old server but I can (or Karen R can) move these over to here in a "catchup" post. The good news is that you are among the first to make it to the new server, which I can't even do yet from my location.

I am bringing these posts over from the old server so we are up to date. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 545 of 642: Mary Murphy (Brown32) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (18:58) 4 lines That review I posted above has some major spoilers in it. So do not read if you want to see The Hours without knowing ahead what happens. So sorry! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 546 of 642: Evelyn (lafn) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (21:41) 8 lines Looks like not even Georgie-Porgie can pack 'em when a film isn't a "crowd-pleaser" "STEVEN SODERBERGH'S "Solaris," an abstract, moody science-fiction tale based on a novel by Stanislaw Lem, opened last month to largely positive reviews. Audience response, it seemed, has bordered on outright rejection. The film earned a rare distinction from CinemaScore, a research company that for the last 20 years has been surveying opening-night audiences at movie theaters around the country. Divided into age groups, the grades for "Solaris" were as follows: UNDER 21: F 21 TO 34: F 35 AND UP: F http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/22/movies/22KEHR.html?8mu Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 547 of 642: Mari (mari) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (01:10) 7 lines I thought for sure I'd come back to oodles of reviews of all the films you've seen over the past weekend. I'm hoping to see Chicago tomorrow. Anyone seen it yet? How about The Hours? It was only playing in 2 or 3 theaters in NY. Saw La Boheme on B'Way. Terrific! Beautiful staging (what else from Baz L.?) and a wonderful young cast who can act as well as sing. If anyone wants to know more about the show, just ask. This one is a real celeb magnet. Garry Shandling was sitting two seats away; friendly and chatty, but he brings his own water and snacks! LOL! Heather Graham was across the aisle; she's much prettier and delicate looking in person. Marisa Tomei was a few rows back--gorgeous and tiny. Saw Matt Damon catching a smoke at intermission. Cute, and taller than I expected. Went to the Frick and saw their Vermeers; they have 3. Saw Catch Me If You Can last week; sweet, light-hearted romp. A good holiday-type film. Nice performances, especially from Leo DiC and Christopher Walken. Very evocative of the early '60s. Fun. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 548 of 642: Mary Murphy (Brown32) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (10:04) 74 lines Welcome back Mari! Liked "Catch Me If You Can," especially Christopher Walken (Joe says he is the only REAL character in the film), and the opening credits. Here's a sweet quote from the Salon review: "Except for his show-stopping number in "Pennies From Heaven," Walken's talents as a hoofer have been criminally underused in movies. Watching him glide his wife around their living room provides "Catch Me If You Can" with one true, fleeting moment of bliss. You just want the movie to stop so you can watch Walken go on dancing. Perhaps it's that strange, innate reserve of Walken that allows him to play this man without lapsing into sentimentality, and why you allow your heart to break a little for him. This is Walken's most touching performance." I had posted the review in the Times for The Hours, but it contained major spoilers and I suggested not reading it if you haven't read the book. Rick Lyman in today's NY Times: A Big Fat Box Office Increase By RICK LYMAN LOS ANGELES, Dec. 29 � An awesome achievement! Enormously enriching! The biggest box-office year of all time! Sometime in the next few days, when the final figures dribble in from the farthest-flung theaters in the back end of nowhere, the crowing will begin in Hollywood about yet another record-shattering year at the movies. More than $9 billion worth of tickets were sold in North America in 2002, up about 10 percent over last year's record. Even with higher prices, actual attendance was up at least 5 percent, reaching levels not seen since Eisenhower was in the White House. But let's not pop those Champagne corks just yet. There are plenty of reasons for concern and doubt amid the hype and hyperventilating. This was the year of both "Spider-Man" and "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," when the major studios embraced franchise series for dear life � the sequels, prequels, remakes, spinoffs and comic-book blockbusters that offer the path of least risk � and then declared themselves puzzled that audiences adopted an inexpensive, sentimental, starless comedy that at least offered something light, comforting and family friendly. It was also, by general consent in Hollywood, an unusually strong year for movies, spurred by well-regarded spring and summer fare like "About a Boy," "Insomnia," "Minority Report" and "Road to Perdition" and then bolstered by the best holiday movie season in years: critically acclaimed efforts like "Chicago," "The Hours," "About Schmidt," "Adaptation," "Far From Heaven," "Talk to Her," "Nicholas Nickleby," "Gangs of New York" and "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers." But it was also a year in which many of those films either struggled to find an audience or performed more weakly than expected, some of them threatening to get lost altogether in a late-year gush of Oscar contenders. One of the most ambitious and expensive of the holiday epics, for instance, Martin Scorsese's "Gangs of New York," looks unlikely to come anywhere near its estimated $110 million production costs in United States ticket sales. Yes, "Spider-Man" led the 2002 box office, its $404 million gross nearly a third larger than the $310 million earned by second-place "Star Wars: Episode 2 � Attack of the Clones." And yes, whether the year's final tally turns out to be $9.2 billion or only $9.1 billion, it is a significant increase that comes at a time when almost all other forms of popular entertainment are suffering shrinking revenues and dwindling audiences. But it does not mean, as some may interpret it, that movies are more central to American life than ever. "It's a totally different world, and people have a lot of options other than movies," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of Exhibitor Relations, a Los Angeles-based company that monitors box-office results. "In a sense it's intriguing that as relatively old-fashioned a medium as movies are still one of the top entertainment choices for Americans." In 1929, when the annual box office was $720 million, the average person in the United States (including everyone, infants and all) went to the movies 40 times a year. There were 4.9 billion tickets sold that year. This year an estimated 1.5 billion tickets were sold, the highest since 1.8 billion in 1959. But because of population growth, the average person saw only about 5 movies this year, compared with 10 in 1959. Even this is a little misleading, because the 2002 audience is actually made up of a small core of people � mostly under the age of 25 � who go to the movies regularly, and a smaller group that goes only once or twice in a year. "The situation is that 20 percent of the audience represents 80 percent of the box office," said Robert Bucksbaum, president of ReelSource, a company that monitors the box office. "So you have a lot of movies that are geared towards that same audience." Even the "Spider-Man" millions seem a tad less impressive when measured against blockbusters from years past, once the grosses are adjusted for inflation. The $159 million that "The Sound of Music" made in 1965 becomes, in today's dollars, an eye-popping $905 million. The $260 million that "Jaws" earned after its 1975 release is suddenly $866 million. And the $323 million that "Star Wars" made in its initial round of releases in 1977, followed by an additional $138 million for a 1997 rerelease, becomes $1.1 billion in today's dollars. Take that, web-slinger. "The movie business is all about hype and buzz," said David Davis, an entertainment analyst for Houlihan, Lokey, Howard & Zukin, an investment banking firm. "And inflation really works to their advantage." In the mid-1980's, when newspapers and magazines first began publishing weekend box-office figures, the studios resisted the trend. But soon, when they saw a way to use the lists to help market films, the process was gradually co-opted and controlled by the studios, which can simply ride the inflation rocket and release their movies in more and more theaters to create record after record. Producers of "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," for instance, have been promoting it as the No. 1 romantic comedy of all time, which is true, to a degree. It has made about $218 million since its release in April, beating the previous record of $178 million set by "Pretty Woman" in 1990. But adjust those 1990 dollars for inflation, and "Pretty Woman" made $244 million in today's economy. And in terms of the actual attendance, about 37 million tickets were sold for "Greek Wedding" compared with 42 million for "Pretty Woman." Studio by studio, there is no question: this was the year for Sony Pictures Entertainment and its Columbia TriStar Pictures banner. The studio is expected to have sold $1.55 billion worth of tickets in North American theaters by year's end, a record not only for Sony but also for any studio. Its $1.3 billion in international sales creates a $2.85 billion worldwide gross that beats 20th Century Fox's $2.7 billion record in 1998, the year it had "Titanic" in theaters. "We're ahead by an obscene amount," Jeff Blake, vice chairman of Sony Pictures Entertainment, said happily. "We had the good fortune to have some good franchise pictures that really delivered." Still, even Sony had its flops. "I Spy," a comic thriller loosely based on the 60's television drama, was a substantial dud in October. And "Stuart Little 2" earned less than half of what the first film made two years ago. A certain amount of franchise fatigue was in evidence elsewhere, too. Warner Brothers offered several clunkers (the sequel "Analyze That" was the most recent) but also kick-started a new franchise with last summer's "Scooby-Doo." It's biggest year-end film, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets," looks to top out at about $250 million, compared with $318 million the first "Harry Potter" film generated last year. New Line Cinema, a ministudio that is also owned by AOL Time Warner, had no such problems with its year-end sequel, "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers." It looks likely to earn considerably more than the $313 million the first installment, "The Fellowship of the Ring," made last year. Universal Pictures, which had strong showings the last two years, claimed a profitable 2002 but had no mega-hit. And two of its franchises � "Red Dragon," a prequel to its Hannibal Lecter series, and "The Scorpion King," a spinoff from the recent "Mummy" films � both earned far less than previous movies in those series. Is franchise fatigue to be the trend of the future? Universal, which is owned by Vivendi, a French conglomerate, had (like AOL Time Warner) its share of executive squabbling. Its former chairman, Jean-Marie Messier, was ousted, and rumors grew that the company, a former water utility, intended to sell off its entertainment assets, including the movie studio. "I know this studio is very focused on what we have to deliver," said Nikki Rocco, Universal's president of distribution. "We are a stable management, despite what is going on internally at the top of the corporation." MGM, meanwhile, had a perfectly dreadful first half of the year, with a string of high-priced flops, only to be saved at year's end by its own stalwart hero, James Bond, in "Die Another Day." The case of Viacom's Paramount Pictures was particularly perplexing. With the most stable management in Hollywood and a corporate strategy that has reliably produced a steady steam of profitable fare, the studio had one miss after another in 2002, culminating with "Star Trek: Nemesis," a box-office fizzle that has all but buried one of the studio's most durable franchises. Disney, which looks to end the year in second place, had a huge hit with M. Night Shyamalan's "Signs," and some relatively smaller hits like "Santa Clause 2" and "Lilo & Stitch." But the failure of "Treasure Planet," from the studio's legendary animation team, was a distressing sour note at Thanksgiving. And then there was Miramax, the upstart ministudio that is part of the Disney empire; it had not a single breakout hit all year long. But Miramax, as is its practice, has flooded the last weeks of the year with more than a half-dozen Oscar-bait films, including the struggling "Gangs of New York" and "Chicago," a critically acclaimed adaptation of the Broadway musical that has emerged as the early Oscar front-runner. "Without question, the two movies that exemplified the year were `Spider-Man' and `Greek Wedding,' " Mr. Dergarabedian said. "They couldn't be more different in terms of budgeting, marketing, everything. But they were both mega-blockbusters. It just says that moviegoers are open to anything. As long as it's a good movie of course." Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 549 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (10:50) 1 lines The Hours is very good and I especially liked Nicole Kidman and her story line. Naturally, I want to read both books now because the threads I picked up that weave together the three storylines just wasn't enough for me. Gaah! From my limited knowledge of the book Mrs Dalloway, I was very impressed. Although Ed Harris had the showiest of the male roles, I thought Stephen's part was much larger than John C. Reilly's and he had several good scenes. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 550 of 642: Evelyn (lafn) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (12:46) 19 lines Thanks Mari for the scoop on the stars in the audience of "La Boheme"....did you get to see the show;-))I really want to see it...but feel so disloyal to Franco Zefferelli who did the staging for the Met.Nice to see opera available to the masses...if you can call paying $100/ticket available to the public. "Catch Me if You Can" is v. entertaining..Leonardo is better in this role than in GoNY.Tom Hanks always the pro...putting on the extra weight for the FBI! Liked "Two Weeks Notice" too. Hey, I'm a sucker for these rom-coms. Remember I even like K&L last Christmas! Terrific article Murph. "It just says that moviegoers are open to anything. As long as it's a good movie of course." How true.The public isn't fooled. "Is franchise fatigue to be the trend of the future? " Not a good sign. TEoR better be a good script. "...best holiday movie season in years: For the big cities, perhaps. But "Chicago" and "Hours" are being platformed and won't hit mid-America til Jan.Bummer. Frankly I think last year's were better...ABM, The Tennenbaums, In the Bedroom and...yes..K&L;-) Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 551 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (13:06) 2 lines (Evelyn) The Tennenbaums Actually, I thought the dysfunctional family in Igby Goes Down was far funnier and better than in the Royal Tannenbaums. I'd bet that movie got nowhere near you. But I recommend it highly. ;-) Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 552 of 642: kathleen (townranny) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (14:52) 6 lines Hi Everyone, Thanks for all the feedback on films. Managed to see two myself. Catch Me if You Can - Very light and entertaining indeed. I liked the look of the movie and all the performances Leo, Hanks and Walken (also the women). The opening credits were great. Spielburg had a lot of fun with this one. GONY - Daniel Day Lewis entertained me for about 1/2 hour of this movie. Cameron Diaz was surprisingly good. The rest was very tiresome to me. It was so theatrical and plodding. I kept thinking of Mad Max. I am ignoring the blood and violence here which is unceasing.I think Scorcese is much better adept at analysis of the Italian-American psyche. The Irish-American portrayals were substantially lacking I thought. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 553 of 642: FanPam (FanPam) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (15:35) 7 lines Thanks for the La Boheme report Mari and to see all those wonderful stars. How exciting. Didn't realize Marissa T was so petite. She just comes across taller on screen I guess. What a great night you had, and glad to know the raves for the show are justified. Thanks for the interesting article Murph. Indeed the movie-goer is no fool and hopefully will continue to see what they like instead of being channeled by the studios. Catch Me If You Can seems to have such wide appeal. Glad to hear it but am anxiouosly awaiting anyone's review of Chicago. HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 554 of 642: MarianneC (MarianneC) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (15:48) 3 lines Mari: I'm hoping to see Chicago tomorrow. Anyone seen it yet? Saw it for the 2nd time yesterday, definitely much better without a big head blocking one's view (the BAFTA screening was a full house). The singing & dancing were incredibly good. I espcially enjoyed John C. Reilly's rendition of Mr. Cellophane. This probably be posted on the BJD board ... there was a Q&A at the screening, the moderator asked RZ about the EOR, and she said she hasn't seen anything ... and she is way too thin, but since she just came back from Romania I'll give her the benefit of the doubt ... she just giggled a lot, unlike CZJ who was witty and gave complete answers. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 555 of 642: Moon Dreams (Moon) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (15:57) 19 lines Mari, was a blast! Heather Graham was across the aisle; she's much prettier and delicate looking in person. And you didn't get a chance to ask about HS? Next time meet up with Dorine. ;-) Marisa Tomei was a few rows back--gorgeous and tiny. Gorgeous? Saw Matt Damon catching a smoke at intermission. Cute, and taller than I expected. LOL! From Camilla to Matt. (Karen), I thought the dysfunctional family in Igby Goes Down was far funnier and better than in the Royal Tannenbaums. IGD played for two weeks here and only at the beach. That is #1 on my rental list, whenever it comes. Chicago has limited release here. Three theaters, one is very close to me, I plan to go tonight. I thought after the success of Moulin Rouge that it would be in more theaters. Who's making that call? Saw Evelyn with Pierce B. and Talk to Her the Aldomovar movie. I liked them both. Thanks for the article, Murph! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 556 of 642: kathleen (townranny) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (16:02) 5 lines OOOH!!! OOOH!! I forgot! Did anyone watch Bertwistle/Davies, Masterpiece Theater Wives and Daughters. Thought it was very well done. Lovely story. Did anyone see any of it? Marianne C - definitely much better without a big head blocking one's view. LOL Big headed people are uniting as we speak. The Cranially Challenged so to speak. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 557 of 642: Dorine (gomezdo) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (16:21) 20 lines (Pam) am anxiouosly awaiting anyone's review of Chicago I believe I used the word "phenomenal" in my *extremely* brief "review" a month ago. Really, I haven't heard a bad word about it except one about RZ and her weight in one scene. I'm planning to see it again soon. Whether or not anyone will agree with me when more see it, I can't emphasize enough how much I loved this movie. I thought it was brilliant. Moulin Rouge was more ambitious, but didn't get me like this did. Maybe I'm still remembering what incredible vibes were bouncing around when we saw it. That theater was buzzing. Saw the director Rob Marshall there as we walked out. Wasn't paying as much attention that people were walking up to congratulate him, nor did I realize who he was, until later. I would've said something in passing had I known. "Chicago," a critically acclaimed adaptation of the Broadway musical that has emerged as the early Oscar front-runner. I would love to see it take home a major Oscar (or several). By far, my favorite movie of the year. Catch Me If You Can, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, Talk to Her, and Standing in the Shadow of Motown are way up there, too. Oh yes, And TIOBE for eye candy Glad to hear La Boheme is as good as I thought it would be and as the critics say. Bought my tix in Nov for Jan 17th. Will be keeping my eyes peeled in the audience too. (Mari) Marisa Tomei was a few rows back--gorgeous and tiny And she has a great head of hair. Had it down when I saw her in the Salome reading with Al Pacino and Aidan Quinn a couple of weeks ago. It's like a mane. (Karen) The Hours is very good and I especially liked Nicole Kidman and her story line. I found her by far the most compelling of the three actresses in this, though MS was a close second for me. Got a tad heavy lidded with JM's part after a while, but loved the movie and the music. Would love to see NK get the Oscar for this. Though JM was excellent in Far From Heaven, too. While it's up there, don't think it's best film of the year though. Amazing cinematography. Was completely fascinated with how everything matched. The clothes with the leaves on the trees, with each other, and the furniture and carpets, etc. Kept leaning over to my friend to comment on it. Don't think I've ever seen the Sirk movies to compare. "...best holiday movie season in years: I was just looking at the movie schedule such as it is for now on comingsoon.com last night...not too much that I can see that thrilled me so far on the docket. Off hand I couldn't think of things I'm aware of that are coming out next year that I'm waiting for except Love, Actually and WAGW (for one reason only). GWAPE if that makes it. If it shows promise, will be on sched for end of next year I imagine. I also noticed there was no list for Hope Springs except Spring 2003. Will this be another "Possession" that will actually be released 2 years down the road? Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 558 of 642: Dorine (gomezdo) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (16:30) 5 lines (MarianneC) The singing & dancing were incredibly good. I have wondered if I, and maybe others, thought so because we didn't expect much from actors/actresses who we don't know of in a musical sense....or we didn't know what to expect at all and were pleasantly surprised. Watching the Making of Chicago on Bravo this weekend, made me realize how incredibly hard they all worked to learn the songs and dance routines. My hat's off to RZ for learning all that and not having had prior training (to my knowledge). Forgot to add Adaptation to my list above of favorites. Didn't like every minute of it, but loved its off-centeredness. Thought NC and Chris Cooper were great. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 559 of 642: Mary Murphy (Brown32) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (17:10) 7 lines Guy Flately at his web site Movie Crazed has a bunch of next year's films, with comments (June is most interesting to me): http://www.moviecrazed.com/ultimate.html And if you live near the NY area, Caryl Churchill's A Number is coming to Broadway in the early Spring for a limited run - with Daniel Craig (be still my heart) and Michael Gambon. Speaking of Gambon, I'm happily watching Wives and Daughters for the second go round. I love it. I keep looking at Francesca Annis and seeing her with Rafe F. There's an older woman still luscious enough to bed! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 560 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (17:49) 3 lines Thanks for the link, Murph. From that list, I want to see The Dancer Upstairs; could've kicked myself for not seeing it at the FF back in October and the trailer has made it look really good. And Spider of course and several others... I watched Wives & Daughters this go around. v.g. although there really were no handsome enough men to tempt me. ;-) Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 561 of 642: Evelyn (lafn) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (18:31) 10 lines (Kathleen)Did anyone watch Bertwistle/Davies, Masterpiece Theater Wives and Daughters. Thought it was very well done. Lovely story. Did anyone see any of it? I've been watching all the episodes of Wives and Daughters . Mobetta' than Forsyte Saga.At least I don't dislike the leading lady;-) Justine Waddell is excellent.Plays Molly like Lizzie at times. Last night walking in the forest...reminded me of woods at Rosings when she happens on Mr. Darcy. Not only Birtwistle and Davies....but Susie Conklin in the editing dept. I wonder why Chicago didn't come out on wide release. Grrrr. Cuts down on the BO...everyone goes to the movies during the holidays. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 562 of 642: Dorine (gomezdo) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (18:45) 8 lines The Dancer Upstairs I liked it, thought it was good, loved Javier Bardem. But could've been shorter by 15-20 minutes for me. Mostly from the first third. Would like to see a few....Confidence, Spider, Anger Management (a typical role for Jack perhaps, but I find the premise amusing and probably a good fit for him). Nothing on that or other lists I'm really waiting for like this year with Gangs, Chicago, Spiderman, TIOBE, etc, etc. (Mary Murphy) June is most interesting to me Because of a movie about a sailor, perhaps? ;-) Thanks for the link. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 563 of 642: Mary Murphy (Brown32) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (19:22) 5 lines Dorine says:Because of a movie about a sailor, perhaps? ;-) There's a movie about a sailor opening in June??? First I've heard of it. ;-) Karen: Spider looks like something I should want to see, but am afraid of trying. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 564 of 642: LisaJH (LisaJH) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (23:39) 4 lines Mari, I am green with envy that you saw Baz�s La Boheme. A few weeks ago 60 Minutes did a piece on Baz, and they showed a clip. ::Sigh::. Would love to hear more about the production. The Hours and Chicago have yet to be released in southern Ohio (Cultural mecca that it is-- but boy, we sure know how to implode a stadium.). I bought a copy of The Hours a few weeks ago to read before seeing the film, and am now wondering if I should read more Woolf before reading The Hours. At this rate, I won�t see the film until it is out on DVD.;-) Gaaaaah! Culture as torture. :-P Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 565 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (23:57) 1 lines I would think reading Mrs Dalloway would be the only other one necessary... Any other opinions? Get Donna over here, Ev, she's read them both and I *know* she's seen the movie. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 566 of 642: Moon Dreams (Moon) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (11:55) 4 lines "It's a glorious day for my party" -- Mrs. Dalloway Wishing you a very Happy New Year! May we have Peace on Earth. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 567 of 642: Laura (LauraMM) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (11:59) 5 lines (Moon)May we have Peace on Earth. Seems like a longshot, Moon:( Happy New Year! (and to those who've already celebrated and are inebriated;)) Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 568 of 642: Mary Murphy (Brown32) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (12:01) 5 lines Lisa: I would read The Hours first, and then Mrs. Dalloway if you have time -- or you could cheat and watch the Vanessa Redgrave film! That stadium needed to be imploded...I grew up in Cincinnati, but I am old enough to remember Crosley Field! I went to Mount Notre Dame Academy from the 1st to 9th grade, when we moved to the East. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 569 of 642: Mary Murphy (Brown32) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (16:32) 3 lines Peace in 2003 for all -- especially for the grand gals (and guys) here at Drool. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 570 of 642: Dorine (gomezdo) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (17:21) 6 lines Happy New Year Everyone! I hope next year is as fun as this year has been with my new friends here. Thanks! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 571 of 642: Dorine (gomezdo) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (17:22) 1 lines And yes I know it says 2001, but this is the only one I found that I liked to any degree. Just pretend. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 572 of 642: Barb S (BarbS) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (18:42) 1 lines I'm pretending Dorine and I love it thanks! Happy New Year to you all and thanks for a great rookie year. It's been a blast! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 573 of 642: Mari (mari) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (18:51) 5 lines Happy New Year! This is how we celebrate Philly-style at the Mummer's Parade--a 100+ years New Year's Day tradition in the City of Brotherly (and Sisterly) Love! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 574 of 642: Mari (mari) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (18:53) 1 lines A special Happy New Year to our hostess, Karen, for another great year!:-) And to all you ladies who make it so much fun here! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 575 of 642: Evelyn (lafn) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (10:45) 7 lines (Mari)A special Happy New Year to our hostess, Karen, for another great year!:-) Hear...Hear... A BIGBOSS Thanks for making Drool such a fun place. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 576 of 642: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (11:15) 5 lines Happy New Years Day. I'm switching over to a new server today, thankis to the contributions you all have made! There may be a period when the server will be difficult to reach because the Internet's name servers have to cache the new ip addresses associated with the new server. Please be patient, we will be back as soon as possible. Email me at walhus@hotmail.com if you cannot get to my regular email address because of the dns changes that may cause temporary outage. Or call me at 512-699-4000 and I'll be glad to let you know of the status of our changeover. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 577 of 642: yura (yura) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (11:21) 1 lines Happy New Year everyone! I wish you all a fantastic 2003. The Tuesday Firthnight ladies and I rang in the new year with Lord Wessex on screen. It was quite lovely :) Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 578 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (11:35) 13 lines No need to thank me. It's all of you who make this place what it is, especially those of you who have financially supported it. May we have another fun-filled year and lots of happiness to everyone here. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Re: Terry's message What this means is that the www.spring.net url is being routed to a different numerically coded computer and the routers, all along the pipeline, will little by little be updated with the new address. This will mean there may be a shortish period (even a day or so) when you won't be able to reach Spring via the "name" url. Terry: could you please post the IP address, the numbers before the changeover starts? Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 579 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (11:38) 1 lines Oh yes, and there's also the Lost Spring board or emailing me at the "office" for problems/questions. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 580 of 642: Evelyn (lafn) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (12:37) 6 lines You mean 66.70.14.232 won't work anymore? That's all I use... Lost Spring is still there.But Spring in Exile is dead. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 581 of 642: Mari (mari) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (13:30) 1 lines I saw Chicago yesterday and completely agree with Dorine--ths one is a dazzler! I loved it, and can't wait to see it again. I know I was sitting there with a big sappy grin on my face the entire time. The staging and direction are so well done, the '20s jazz music is sublime, the lyrics are so witty and cynical. And the performances! Renee Z. is outstanding--what a surprisingly good singing voice. CZJ is also good. These ladies are so much fun to watch, and have charisma to burn. Gere is fun as well as the oily Billy Flynn. Loved John C. Reilly's Cellophane Man, which I think someone already mentioned. The first film I've seen this year that says "Oscar" to me. Run to see this one! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 582 of 642: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (13:55) 15 lines The new ip address is 64.106.200.50 Send me an email about setting up your account. What is the url for the Lost Spring board? So our new ip address url (bookmark this!!!) is http://64.106.200.50 and http://64.106.200.50/drool for drool updates, etc. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 583 of 642: Mari (mari) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (14:03) 13 lines (Evelyn)Thanks Mari for the scoop on the stars in the audience of "La Boheme"....did you get to see the show;-)) ROTF! Hey, you *knew* I was shallow when you married me.;-) ;-) (Moon)And you didn't get a chance to ask about HS? Nah, when they're on their own time, I leave 'em alone. But if they're there on official business . . . look out! I'd carry Dorine's potted palm for her!;-) (Pam)Didn't realize Marissa T was so petite. She was actually seated the entire time, but these girls are so skinny, I automatically (and probably incorrectly) assume they're short, too.;-) Lisa, you asked about the production. They've changed the setting to 1950s Paris. There are 3 pairs of performers playing the 2 lead roles, and they rotate. The roles are so demanding on the voice, so this way no one has to sing the leads more than 2 or 3 times per week. We saw David Miller and Ekaterina as Rodolfo and Mimi. Excellent, they sang so beautifully and you realy did believe in their love. The second act is a real showstopper; takes place on the Left Bank, a street scene, and there is so much going on that you don't know where to look first! Opera purists (I'm not one of them) may sneer at what Luhrmann has done (there are English subtitles, for example), but I thought it was beautiful and exciting. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 584 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (14:03) 1 lines The Lost Spring board's url is only given out via email (nomdedrool) Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 585 of 642: Mari (mari) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (14:04) 1 lines Is there something we're supposed to do with those numbers? I've had no trouble geting in the usual way. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 586 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (14:10) 7 lines I would say bookmark the first set for future use (just in case). It hasn't started happening yet, but when you try to access spring.net by name, sometime over the course of the next day or so, it will come up empty: can't find DNS type message. That's when the numbers will come in handy. Just put them in the string for, say, the main Drool page: http://64.106.200.50/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/drool/all/new and it should take you here. Remember, I said "should" ;-) BTW, we may need to postpone the film discussion a little bit too, as this could go on for a while and we don't want to put anyone not able to access Spring automatically behind. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 587 of 642: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (15:22) 4 lines So far we're still running the old dns. The name servers get updated once a day usually. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 588 of 642: Evelyn (lafn) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (16:47) 1 lines Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 589 of 642: Evelyn (lafn) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (16:51) 2 lines (Mari)Opera purists (I'm not one of them) may sneer at what Luhrmann has done (there are English subtitles, for example), but I thought it was beautiful and exciting. LOL. I'm impressed that Luhrmann presented it in the original. As far as subtitles go, the Met and Covent Garden have them too.Sounds fantastic. I hope they go on tour with that one and give the opera companies a run for their money. Years ago the Met used to tour, but the local opera companies complained that it was cutting into their funding. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 590 of 642: lindak (lindak) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (17:23) 6 lines Thank you, Mari for always keeping us up to date. Your trip to NY sounds like a success. How exciting. And yes, thank you from me, too, Karen. Spring is a great place to hang out, and I have enjoyed these last nine months. Happy New Year, everyone. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 591 of 642: LisaJH (LisaJH) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (18:46) 22 lines (Mari)Nah, when they're on their own time, I leave 'em alone. Ah, a shallow, but classy celeb watcher...my favorite kind. ;-) Thanks for the info on the production. I think it�s great Baz Luhrmann is shaking things up in the opera world. When I lived in NY in the mid 80s I went to the Met several times, and this was before surcaps/subtitles were used. If you hadn�t studied the libretto of the particular opera beforehand, it was like seeing a foreign film without subtitles. Almost all the humor was lost on the audience, which was a shame�and God knows, I don�t want to miss out on a good laugh. But I digress�. Love the Mummers. I swear one of the networks used to show a Thanksgiving Day Parade from Philly that featured the Mummers. What happened to that? Or have too many of my brain cells died and I made it up? ;-) (Murph) I am old enough to remember Crosley Field! I went to Mount Notre Dame Academy from the 1st to 9th grade, when we moved to the East My family moved to �The �Nati� (as native Bill Hemmer calls it) from the Chicago area when I was 10, and Crosley Field was demolished one or two years later, I think. (I�m not a big sports fan.) And thanks for the suggestion regarding The Hours. I�ve read some Woolf, but not Mrs. Dalloway. Guess I�m going to be busy�.. (Karen) The Lost Spring board's url is only given out via email (nomdedrool) Is this like The X-Files? ;-) Karen, I, too, wish to thank you for all the time you devote to hosting Drool with such humor and style. I might even get verklempt�.;-) Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 592 of 642: Mari (mari) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (20:29) 11 lines (Karen)it will come up empty: can't find DNS type message. That's when the numbers will come in handy Ok. So using the numbers will be temporary? The language used in the LaBoheme subtitles is very plain-spoken, down-to-earth, humorous in many spots, and appropriate to '50s vernacular. I didn't realize the use of subtitles was so commonplace. Maybe the biggest difference then is that Baz has employed 23-year-olds to play 23-year-olds.;-) (Lisa)swear one of the networks used to show a Thanksgiving Day Parade from Philly that featured the Mummers It's always been a New Year's parade, and yes, one of the networks used to carry portions of it. I say portions because the entire thing runs about 10 hours. In any event, we had heavy rain here today, so it's been postponed until Saturday.:-( Murph, a belated congrats to your Giants for turning their season around! Of course, I wouldn't be this gracious had the Jets not beaten Green Bay to give Philly home field advantage through the playoffs.;-) We're lucky we have the bye week, so McNabb has extra time to get healthy; looks like he'll be ready. Exciting times ahead for both our teams! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 593 of 642: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (21:28) 3 lines The ip address is only temporary. http://64.106.200.50 is what to use if you can't get to http://www.spring.net Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 594 of 642: Rika (Rika) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (00:03) 10 lines In honor of Dorine's birthday, please join us for a Victorian Tea Party and Fashion Show. The tea will be supplied by Dorine's fellow Latte Divas (we're branching out from coffee), and the fashions and models are provided courtesy of the "Summer Fashions for the Wealthy Victorian Gentleman" catalog. In fact, our first model has just arrived. Here we see a traveling costume for the Victorian Man About Town - a light wool overcoat, with a smart hat and scarf. We'll give the gentleman a chance to get settled and changed into the next ensemble, and then the fashion show will continue. In the meantime, grab a hot cuppa...... .....and get something to eat - how about some cake? .....or help yourself to some bread and butter, or even a muffin. I'm sure we have muffins around somewhere. Happy birthday, Dorine, from Linda and Rika! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 595 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (00:09) 5 lines Dorine!!!! Come out, come out, wherever you are! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 596 of 642: Annette (anjo) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (05:14) 6 lines Happy Birthday, Dorine And what a wonderful invitation. A party is a party is a party, but a victorian teaparty!!!! Please allow me to supply the flowers � renaissanceroses from Denmark. I couldn�t find anyone to arrange them for you, so I hope you will enjoy them � just as they are! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 597 of 642: Annette (anjo) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (05:17) 1 lines I'm so sorry, that the roses were not delivered as promised - but I'm afraid, I can only make this work on the help-topic. So - please Dorine - check out the roses postet from 990-1001 under that topic, they are all for you to enjoy (you must try to imagine the scent;)) Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 598 of 642: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (06:45) 9 lines http://pub97.ezboard.com/bspring9482� is a place to get updates if you get lost. And I believe Karen has another such url. http://64.106.200.50 is the new site. Some folks are getting there already, it's just starting to get picked up. But I don't go there yet when I type in http://www.spring.net so it hasn't changed everywhere. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 599 of 642: Mary Murphy (Brown32) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (09:31) 0 lines Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 600 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (10:31) 1 lines The article was moved to Topic 60, but Murph did wish Dorine a Happy Birthday too. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 601 of 642: Rika (Rika) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (10:47) 8 lines Dorine's birthday tea party and fashion show continue now, as our next model (you'll notice all our models look alike) shows us some country fashions: Here's a lovely brown tweed suit, so appropriate for a pleasant day in the country. It's cut to show off the model's broad shoulders tapering to narrow hips. Also note the wire-rim spectacles. Every element of this ensemble says, "I'm a wealthy, responsible man of property, but I could be tempted to be naughty by the right offer......" Here's another brown tweed suit - without the jacket, to give our model a casual look. We need to talk to him, though, about the contents of his pockets - the drape of the trousers is being disturbed by his decidedly non-Victorian cell phone. Here's a white linen suit designed to keep a gentleman cool, calm, and collected, even when fighting to win back the woman of his dreams. The cream vest and white shirt continue the "cool heads will prevail" motif, while the plaid tie contributes a devil-may-care splash of color. Next we have another tweed suit, in a lighter brown this time, with a dark tan vest, white shirt, and a jaunty polka-dotted tie. And a divine little mischievous smile....Let's take another look (or two or ten) at this outfit. We're going to take a short break now. Enjoy a tea cake, socialize with the other guests, and the fashion show will continue soon. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 602 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (11:12) 3 lines Come on, Dorine. We know you're there. Come out to play. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 603 of 642: Rika (Rika) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (12:28) 7 lines We move on to formal and special-occasion wear for the Man of Property. Just because you're charged with responsibility for your dead (and fictional) brother's ashes is no reason not to score points on the fashion scale. This mourning ensemble, complete with elegant black gloves, is dramatic, yet tasteful. Attempting to impress your future in-laws is a daunting prospect, but our model looks like every mother-in-law's dream in this exquisite morning suit. A navy coat and trousers coordinate beautifully with a dove gray vest and a blue-gray tie. A lily of the valley completes this stunning ensemble. The mother-in-law may decide she wants this tasty treat for herself! You can't go wrong with the classic tuxedo, and you also can't go wrong putting this particular model in formal wear. Mmmmmmmmm. If only he'd show us some dimples......  Did you say you wanted dimples? Our model is looking irresistable in this night-on-the-town ensemble.A black tail coat, a white tuxedo shirt, and a cream satin vest and tie make an elegant fashion statement. Absolutely freakin' gorgeous..... oh, and the clothes aren't bad either. I hope you don't mind - I'm not quite ready to move on yet. Some more views of this ensemble.... and the dimples.... Lucky Dorine - as the birthday girl, she gets to personally inspect the model.... I mean, the outfits.I don't know about you, but I need to take a break and get something cool to drink.... perhaps some refreshing lemonade. But stick around - there will be more fashions and models to drool over coming up soon.  Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 604 of 642: Evelyn (lafn) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (12:42) 7 lines Happy Birthday, Dorine...Drool's Ambassador par excellence! Thank you for all your reports on premieres and films. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 605 of 642: Evelyn (lafn) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (12:50) 7 lines (Mari) Murph, a belated congrats to your Giants for turning their season around! Hey.... ....don't I even get a mention??? Who do you think won the Rose Bowl?? Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 606 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (12:58) 17 lines You, the cute one there, what's your question? Dorine: Because it's my birthday, I had to ask why don't you cast Colin Firth, one of the best actors you have working for you in something decent? Something worthy of his talents? Harvey: Hey, haven't I seen you at a few parties? Dorine: Um, uh, er... Harvey: Never mind. You, blondie, have an open invite to all my bashes. But since it's your birthday today, come sit on my lap and we'll talk about Whatshisname... HAPPY BIRTHDAY DORINE!! xoxoxoxoxox Harv Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 607 of 642: Evelyn (lafn) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (13:13) 11 lines ROTF, Karen... A slight interruptions in the festivities: "In "Much Ado About Something," a documentary essay by producer Michael Rubbo, FRONTLINE explores anew the centuries-old controversy over whether the literary masterpieces attributed to Shakespeare were actually written by someone else. The 90-minute documentary airs Thursday, January 2, at 9 P.M. on PBS (check local listings)." Press release: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/press/2108.html Pl. Resume the party..... Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 608 of 642: Lizza (Lizzajaneway) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (13:59) 8 lines BIRTHDAY WISHES DORINE I think I know why you are late........ you are taking soooo long to put on those Victorian undergarments, all those fiddly hooks and eyes. Don't bother to dress up in your crinoline, ODB will like you just as you are;-)) Anyway tea in a corset is much more fun;-)) Enjoy! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 609 of 642: Lizza (Lizzajaneway) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (14:02) 4 lines Ooooops, forget to say... love those fashions Rika, delicious, thank you. Just the thing to make a cup of Lapsang go down a treat. ROTFL Karen, should have guessed that with your own personal experiences of Harve, you'd come up with a winner for the birthday girl! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 610 of 642: MariaT (poostophles) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (14:11) 6 lines The tea is getting cold, but I'm just warming up...Happy Birthday Dorine!! Someone is anxiously awaiting your arrival!! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 611 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (14:19) 5 lines Come on, Dorine. Which one of these are you behind? There's a party going on! Don't be shy. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 612 of 642: LisaJH (LisaJH) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (15:11) 7 lines Yoo-hoo, Dorine! I even sent our boy George looking for you: Oops, sorry, that was Boy George�. Here we go: Happy Birthday! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 613 of 642: Rika (Rika) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (15:26) 9 lines We thought it might be interesting to take a behind-the-scenes peek at the models' dressing rooms and see what's going on. Oops. Looks like we arrived at an inconvenient time. Let's check the other dressing rooms. Looks like our country-attire model is all tuckered out and is having a quick lie-down. Tragically, he's chosen to nap fully clothed (except those adorable bare feet peeking out). Love the dressing gown, though. The book title? "Tongues Ahoy: A Guide to More Passionate Screen Kissing and the Avoidance of Chicken-Pecking."Next door, our formal-wear model is practicing some poses for use later on. Someone should tell him that smoking is bad for you. (thanks, Karen!) And down the hall we find.... oh, my...... it's not every day one sees a proper Victorian gentleman in a black sleeveless tee and BLP*. He must moonlight as a rock guitar god.... Let's pause and enjoy this image, shall we? A pity that the photo is somewhat Blurry....* - Black Leather Pants, of course!  But now it's back to the fashion show. This black velvet jacket over a brown vest, white striped shirt, and red silk tie is the perfect choice for proposing to your beloved - or for snarfing down cucumber sandwiches, unless there are no cucumbers to be had, in which case I recommend muffins. The white carnation, the stray curl on the forehead, and that gleam in the model's eye are the sort of extra touches that just about guarantee a "yes."  Sober gray pinstripes - an inspired choice for a quick trip to the library to do some research. The stray curls are beginning to run amok. But wait - who is this new arrival? He seems to know our model, and they seem to be enjoying each other's company, so I'm sure this will cause no disruption (cue ominous organ music). Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 614 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (15:39) 6 lines Can you believe some people like that guy? Good thing Birthday Girl here has better taste. Remember, I'll be seeing YOU later. xoxoxox, Sam Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 615 of 642: kathleen (townranny) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (15:59) 12 lines Happy Birthday To Dorine the Duchess of Drool!!!!! Great Moments in Drool History 1) I put my hand on Colins back and didn't move it until he stepped back. no clue where Livia was at this point. 2)Yes, it....Wait! How do you know when my birthday is? You need to go I see.... We will never forget!!!!! Rika, LOL Tongues Ahoy!!!! a guide to more passionate scren kissing!! We are not worthy!!! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 616 of 642: Mari (mari) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (16:11) 4 lines Need somebody to sing Happy Birthday to Dorine? I'm your guy. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 617 of 642: kathleen (townranny) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (16:31) 5 lines Productivity of any kind is compromised at my house after Rika posts. Am serious! Have had to retype this three times and please see typos in my previous message. I think it was those dressing room shots. Big fan of Armand's too!! Cheer up honey! Thanks Maria Happy, Happy Birthday Dorine !!! Will quit while ahead. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 618 of 642: Karen (KarenR) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (16:42) 2 lines A pity that the photo is somewhat Blurry.... Complaining are we? Sheesh! Waddaya expect for the bargain prices we charge here? ;-) Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 619 of 642: Mari (mari) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (16:52) 6 lines (Evelyn)don't I even get a mention??? Who do you think won the Rose Bowl?? Sorry, sorry, I was still in a funk from Penn State choking.;-) Congrats to the Sooners! (Any my son says their marching band was *much* better than Washington's!) Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 620 of 642: KathyF (kathness) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (17:04) 2 lines Happy Birthday, Dorine! With the wonderful fashion show, many guests putting in appearances, and lots of plants to hide behind, what more could a birthday girl ask? Thanks for letting us crash your party! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 621 of 642: Dorine (gomezdo) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (17:21) 11 lines *throws open door* I've finally made it!!! Didn't you all hear me knockin' to come in? No.......I see your minds, and especially your *eyes* were more agreeably engaged with the fashion show. Can't say I blame you though, with this model on the catwalk. While waiting for someone to let me in, I took a nap behind one of my potted palms. ;-) When I got up, I went to find the roses Annette sent. Delivery people can be so unreliable. Hope you didn't tip them first. Thank you, they're lovely! I am very touchy feely when shopping to make sure the texture is not too rough. Is this an interactive fashion show? Can I touch? Yeah, sure......I'm talking about the clothes Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 622 of 642: Moon Dreams (Moon) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (17:38) 4 lines Hey Dorine, you don't think I'd miss your birthday party. Have a great one! And when you're done removing all those clothes from my pal Coln, you can just come right over here and slip mine right off, less is more baby. ;-) It's noce to share December birthdays. Happy Birthday, Dorine! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 623 of 642: Dorine (gomezdo) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (19:53) 16 lines Thanks, Murph for the good wishes. Will check the actual one out later. Evelyn, 'ugs back at ya! I hope your friends aren't representative of what I'm to expect in men now, nice as friendly as they appear. ;-) And Harv! What a ple...er, an unexpected surprise! How did you get in here? Is your name on the list with the girl at the door with the clipboard? Nice of you to *finally* acknowledge my presence when we're in the same room. Thought I'd have to start resorting to tripping you get you to speak to me rather than just looking at me like I don't belong. Since it's my birthday (1 1/2 weeks ago), I have a second question for you.....What's up with your marketing plan? Is it possible that when you release that movie with Colin that's worthy of his talent, you could put it in more than 2 theaters per state for more than 2 weeks at a time? Gas is going to get a whole lot more expensive soon. BTW, nice job on Chicago! Lizza....had to give up those pretty, yet unpractical corsets and frilly things. Can't do it alone.....though when the fashion show is over, maybe the model can help. But wait! *slapping head* I shouldn't be asking him to help put clothes on.... Hey Armand...nice breeches there. ;-P Just hold that pose, I'll be there soon. And big thanks to the hostesses....my Latte Diva sisters for organizing this swanky tea party and fashion show! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 624 of 642: lindak (lindak) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (20:15) 10 lines (Dorine)And big thanks to the hostesses....my Latte Diva sisters for organizing this swanky tea party and fashion show! Sorry I'm late, I just couldn't find my way into the party, thank goodness our LD sister, Rika, was able to get the party rolling. Isn't Jack just so AFG, that you could just scream? Thank you too, Kathleen, for walking us down memory lane and reminding us of the events of Monday, May 13, 2002. And lets not forget that our Dorine even spilled wine on ODB's shoes. Or did ODB spill wine on your shoes, Dorine? BTW, Someone special is waiting to give you birthday wishes, but he needs to wait until we have worked our our new server bugs. So in the mean time, I just want to wish you... Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 625 of 642: Dorine (gomezdo) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (20:23) 15 lines Mari, I�m right there with you on Penn State. L Those potted palms look a bit big for you to carry for me at the next party or Q&A of interest. Maybe wheels would be in order? Or too obvious, do you think? ;-) LisaJH, you know all the right people to bring along. Both Georges are welcome. Well George C *only* if he can *definitively* confirm that he is not in BJD. Thanks and nice to see ya! �Tongues Ahoy�..� ROTF! And where would the model have gotten this kissing lessons book? Is there CD-ROM with that? Maybe he�s a visual learner. Does it come with the option of a live demonstration partner? Since it�s my birthday, I think the responsibility should rest with me. To thank him for his participation in the fashion show. ;-) No one who looks that sexy smoking should ever be told to stop. ;-D Sam, you were right! And I thought that was just a line. Forgot to tell you, you�ve got a hot bod! George knows how to shoot you from the right angle. Mmmm Mmmm. Hey, Linda�.what was that date again? LOL! His wine, my shoes. I�m starving and thirsty��.not too many muffins left. Anyone want to wrestle for them? And has anyone seen the server with the Chardonnay and champagne? Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 626 of 642: lindak (lindak) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (20:41) 12 lines Well I don't know what happened to my post. I'm probably the only one who can't see it since it is listed on the main page. It was a v. nice birthday greeting, Dorine, and I was thanking Kathleen for reminding us of the events of Monday, May 13, 2002. I'll ask the same question, Who spilled the wine on whose shoes, Dorine? I have a special guest here who wants to wish you a happy birthday, and no, it isn't GC. But, that will have to wait until the server bugs are worked out. Thank you LD sister, Rika, for getting the party rolling, this is the first I've been able to join in all day, *sniff*. And special thanks to Jack for always looking so AFG. I think he looks especially AFG for Dorine's tea party, don't you? Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 627 of 642: Rika (Rika) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (21:12) 5 lines (moi) A pity that the photo is somewhat Blurry.... (Karen) Complaining are we? Sheesh! Waddaya expect for the bargain prices we charge here? ;-) No, boss, I would NEVER complain about manna from heaven! This was a little joke for the enjoyment of my fellow tea party hostess, related to a story we're reading (which is why Blurry is capitalized). Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 628 of 642: Leona M (WinniePeg) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (21:27) 2 lines Happy Birthday, Dorine!!! Many more! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 629 of 642: Mari (mari) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (21:27) 8 lines (Dorine)Maybe wheels would be in order? Or too obvious, do you think? ;-) Obvious, shmobvious, my back is achin', kid, so I'll take all the help I can get.;-) Hope you had a great birthday, Dorine, and best wishes for a super year ahead--just think, the potential to crash not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR premiere parties looms on the 2003 horizon!:-) Have wheels, will travel.:-) Great fashion show, Rika, thanks! Maria T., is that really CF, sans Valmont wig? Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 630 of 642: Rika (Rika) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (21:32) 2 lines Just wanted to let y'all know that there's a bit more tea party/fashion show still to come, but due to the technical challenges some people have been experiencing today, I'm going to postpone its conclusion till Sunday. So in the meantime, keep eating and drinking and chatting, and no fighting over the muffins - or the models! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 631 of 642: Dorine (gomezdo) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (22:02) 23 lines I think I've decided my favorites are the city fashions and the darker brown tweed suit sans jacket, but with pocket "accessories". Or is that accessory? Hmmmm. Nothing like a tall, handsome man, with dimples, in a dark suit. And Jack in the city is looking too AFG to pass up. Moon, thanks for stopping by with Jeremy. Love the 8 O'clock goatee shadow. Don't run away Jeremy, I'll make my way to you eventually. Keep that shirt open. Thanks Kathleen, it is nice to take that stroll down memory lane periodically. :D But when was it again, Linda? It keeps slipping my mind ;-). And Mr. Walken, an encore perhaps? Are there more verses to the Happy Birthday song? (KathyF) lots of plants to hide behind Yes thank you Karen for providing cover for an army. Colin will think his fan base has expanded to foliage. Gee, that won't be obvious in the city, do ya think? ;-) (Linda) I'll ask the same question, Who spilled the wine on whose shoes, Dorine? And I'll give the same answer: His wine, my shoes. ;) I saw your very nice birthday greeting. Thank you so much! MariaT and Leona, I very much appreciate your birthday greetings. (Rika)This was a little joke for the enjoyment of my fellow tea party hostess, related to a story we're reading (which is why Blurry is capitalized) Ha! Funny, I didn't catch that right off and should have. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 632 of 642: LisaJH (LisaJH) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (22:02) 1 lines Hey Rika, thanks for all that Earnest eye candy, er, I mean attire!;-) Never understood why anyone would want/need a DVD player on a computer...until recently. (Could kick self for not going for the Dell upgrade...) Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 633 of 642: Lisa (freddie) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (22:13) 9 lines Dorine, In case I don't get back later with a more lavish birthday greeting, I just want to say: HAPPRY BIRTHDAY I haven't been around and this whole party was such a shock! Hope your day was great! Lisa Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 634 of 642: Lisa (freddie) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (22:14) 1 lines Well, you get the idea! Although the Happy Birthday was supposed to be blue. :) Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 635 of 642: Tress (Tress) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (22:25) 15 lines Happy Birthday Dorine!!! I'm a bit late for the tea party and I have moved on to the cocktail hour! Am drinking a glass of Russian red in your honor! (Linda) I'll ask the same question, Who spilled the wine on whose shoes, Dorine? (Dorine) And I'll give the same answer: His wine, my shoes. ;) I hope you have taken Ms. Lewinski's route and kept the shoes? Have you built a shrine to them yet? (KathyF) lots of plants to hide behind (Dorine) Yes thank you Karen for providing cover for an army. Ohhhh....next premiere! I'll bring the camouflage and grease paint! We'll make sure Dorine has the prime potted palm (the PPP). Right out front! Hope you had a happy one Dorine! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 636 of 642: Dorine (gomezdo) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (23:25) 32 lines (Lisa) , I just want to say: I haven't been around Happry? I think you've been at a party of your own somewhere ;-). Glad you made it. It's been tough to find the door at times. (Tress) I hope you have taken Ms. Lewinski's route and kept the shoes? Have you built a shrine to them yet? Kept them? Shrine? I'm too practical. Had to keep wearing them as they were my only pair of pumps to work in for quite a while. :-) I'll bring the camouflage and grease paint! LOL, but again, perhaps a tad obvious? Guess we could say it's this season's style of makeup application.....appropriate to wear in the city jungle. ;-) Barb and Lora, just found your greetings by accident. Got caught in that alternate Drool universe some of the posts are ending up at. Trying to navigate this site now is reminiscent of Blackadder flip-flopping through time in B&F. When you leave, you never know where you'll be when you come back through the door. Just in case no one else sees this... (Barb) Happy Birthday Dorine and thanks for all your info over the year! Knowing that the Queen just made her annual awards, I think we need our own here and you should be the first recipient for services rendered and in honor of your birthday. Perhaps some graphically inclined drooleur would want to design a Drool Meritorious Service award (with palm leaf clusters.) I think that would be a fitting commemorative! And thanks to the Latte Divas for the floor show...I mean fashion show! Is tucking appropriate? Thank you, it's been my pleasure to share whatever experiences I've had, whether you liked them or not, LOL. ;-) No special awards are needed. I have enjoyed being here immensely. Drool has been a definite bright spot in my life during some trying times. My thanks to everyone, esp The Boss for keepin' it together. (Lora - 2 msgs combined) Dorine, happy birthday! What a firthwhile fashion show in your honor! Hope you understood the analogy I was making the other day on 166 between us and ladies from TIOBE :-) Shall we be calling each other (Firth) sisters now? Anyway sometimes my parodies don't come off as well as I intend. So from one firth sister to another: Happy birthday and many more happy returns! Also thanks for the firthwhile fashion show in your honor (to the latte girls, Rika, and you). All the best to you! It has been a fantastic show, hasn't it? Give those Latte Divas a hand everybody! *clapping* Yes, I picked up on at least some part of the analogy. Thank you for the birthday wishes my firth sister! I still envy you though, you got the hug! All I got was a handshake (much better than Georgie's), to cop-a-feel on his back (unfortunately not bare), and wine on my already soaked shoes. ;-) Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 637 of 642: Dorine (gomezdo) Fri, Jan 3, 2003 (00:05) 19 lines (Mari) just think, the potential to crash not 1, not 2, not 3, but FOUR premiere parties looms on the 2003 horizon!:-) Remember, the important factor with these is having the heads-up a bit ahead of time of when they'll be occurring. Will bet closer to 2 or 3, absolute tops. (Pam) HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY DORINE !!!! What wonderful guests at your marvelous tea party/fashion show. Must say the model looks vaguely familiar. Although I seem to recall him posing without clothing on occassions. As usual Rika, great job. Absolutely wonderful. I posted before but don't know where it went. Great job everyone. A double thanks to you Pam! I saw both your posts. Posing without clothing at this time of year (in the north) may not be in his best interest....not if he wants to impress anyone. ;-D Thank you *so* much everyone for coming by. A feast for the eyes to be sure! Rika and Linda, thanks SO much for the fashion show/tea party! Look forward to the conclusion of the fashion show at a later date. You know, we have fashion *week* here (nudge, nudge, wink, wink). Thanks so much Karen for, you know, whatever. ;-) Didn't think Harvey would recognize me in the blonde wig. Maybe I should try glasses next time, too? ;-) Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 638 of 642: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Fri, Jan 3, 2003 (00:13) 5 lines About half our population is on the new server now and about half are still on the old server as the changes ripple though the net in an unpredictable pattern. I am still seeing the old server from my location so I can't test yet. And I haven't seen any posts on the lifeboat or on the new server yet (other than a few test posts that I did. Happy Birthday Dorine. And Happy New year to you old server people. Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 639 of 642: Lisa (freddie) Fri, Jan 3, 2003 (00:37) 3 lines http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/168.636 This is what I'm seeing! Topic 168 of 172: 'Odds & Ends - Part 6' Resp 640 of 642: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Fri, Jan 3, 2003 (06:48) 4 lines I woke up this morning expecting to see the new server open in my browser, but I'm still on the old one. I would love to test this thing but for some reason the net's nameservers aren't changing over here and pointing to the new server. I know other people are reaching it because I can open the log on it and watch the traffic stream by, both the old and new server are now getting brisk traffic. I'm going to be looking in to this today. I could use as many first hand reports of what folks are experiencing in their worlds, are you getting in ok? Able to post? walhus@hotmail.com is my alternate email address. Whew! That was a lot. At least now we're not missing anything. Again, if you're reading this you have made it to our *new* server. Many folks are still arriving at the old server, like KarenR. This should clear up by the end of today.

Glad to hear I'm not wandering around lost. I was able to change seamlessly just by entering www.spring.net. All the rest of you, just get your tails over here! Also glad to hear the completion of the fashion show has been delayed. The pics weren't showing up and I was following all the links to the pic but it's not the same.

Glad you're not lost, Barb S. We're just waiting for the rest of the guests to arrive. Karen will have a bit of updating to do once she gains admission again. I've done my best to update the conferences with the "lost" conversations.

Their are now people wnadering around on the old server who think they are on the new server. Soon, they will find their way and realize what is going on.

Guess I'm here! Hey who gave the directions to this party? Don't be afraid to stop and ask for directions like our DH's (sexist comment alert)! If you gone to the end of the earth - that's too far - we may need some designated drivers for this group!!!

OK, I appear to be over here on the new server. What a mess those transferred postings are. Let's not do anymore of that. Tres ugleeeeeeee! Sorry this had to happen on your birthday, Dorine, but as I recall we once had an outage on mine that lasted about 5 days. As Forrest Gump's T-shirt used to say... ;-)

Sorry for the trasferred posts. Just wanted to keep things up to date ;-) There are still folks wandering around on the old server because their isp's don't refresh their server caches often enough.

Lisa (freddie) is over there and can't get here yet. And can't find DWG. I looked at http://www.austen.com and http://www.firth.com and they seem to be happy, but let me know of any "glitches" as there are bound to be a few.

Yes, I know Terry, but I seem to recall you used to be able to overlay onto the new site so that they were merged in properly. I don't think there's anything else over there that requires copying but I'll take a look, using the old IP address.

They are hard to merge since folks are posting at both sites at the same time. I could move the whole topic over but then the new postings here would be wiped out and I would have the same dilemma.

You'll be glad to know that you have daily statistics now on this site, firth.com and Ann will be able to see stats on austen.com. I'll give Ann a call and see how she's doing.

Thanks Terry and Karen for getting us here. And thanks Terry for transferring all the posts on topics. Yesterday I was a bit confused as I was going between both servers for some reason, but today I seem to be ok at the new home. Thanks everybody and hoping to see all of you here soon.

Ok, I think I'm here now. Weird.

Ok, back now, clicking the heels must have worked. But I was just thinking on the way home from work it must be about time for more ALRTH. Should we send a search party out for Lisa?

LOL, Barb, I'm sitting here doing a last little edit on it, but I have emailed Karen to be sure it's ok to post with all the mess that's going on.

Hey Barb, Don't you mean AOSWD (Any Old Shrub Will Do?). Thanks, Lisa! Will look forward to it. And I will post in the right place (Fan -Fic). When the troops regroup.

I don't think I'm going to post until I hear from Karen. My topic doesn't show all the current posts in FF. It stops at #148, before my post of Ch 22 of UMS.

The one day I DON'T come online, we have a wonderful birthday tea party along with apparently a stimulatingly (is this a word, maybe?)lovely fashion show and I am assuming because Terry transferred the old posts to the new server that I can't see the show Harvey, I can see..but who (in all honesty now) wants to see Harvey? This is so so typical of my luck....sheesh. Dorine, Happy Birthday! I hope you had a wonderful day, so sorry I'm late.

(Ada) This is so so typical of my luck....sheesh. LOL Ada though in truth, I believe this twilight zone thing disrupted it for most of us -- I mostly just saw little boxes with x's. Perhaps we could importune the lovely and talented people responsible (insert fawning winkie)to run it again? (Any Old Shrub Will Do?) LOL Kathleen, that's the one. And that actually works for the other one she's got going too -- Any Old Shower Will Do. Nice to see you made it Lisa. :-D

(Dorine)Got caught in that alternate Drool universe some of the posts are ending up at. Trying to navigate this site now is reminiscent of Blackadder flip-flopping through time in B&F. LOL! What a great way to put it. Thanks for rescuing Barb and me from that "alternate Drool universe" - it was very weird. But I seem to be in the right place now. Though I don't know what I'm doing right or differently this time as opposed to last night during Dorine's b-day party. Thanks Terry and Karen for putting it right. Would love to see the fashion show again too since many of Rika's (I'm sure lovely) pics were X's in my "alternate drool universe." :-)

Hi, everybody - so glad to be at our new playground! Just wanted to let you know that your tea party hostesses intend to repost the entire tea party/fashion show starting Sunday afternoon/evening. We know a lot of people missed it and want to rectify that situation. We'll wait till Sunday just in case there are any stragglers who are still wandering around lost in cyberspace.

Just dropping in to say hello and wish all dear Drooleurs a safe and prosperous 2003! Am settling in to my new home in another continent. Certainly no prospect of CF sightings here, not even CF movie viewings. I hope you all get to see ODB this year to make up for my deprivation. Don't know when I'll be back...but you are all always remembered fondly. Enjoy!

Minkee! Good to see you back! Happy New Year to you too! And anything we can do to help with the deprivation, let us know...care package, whatever! Good luck!

Karen: Without the use of slippers or any other accessories, it seems I finally made it here. Thank you very much indeed!!!! Rika: Looking forward to the re-run and continuing of the fashionshow. I hope, you won't need roses for this one, since I don't seem to have much luck in the delivery-department.

For some reason, I feel like I'm all alone here. HELLO????

Hi everybody - glad to see everyone is making it here.

Minkee, so glad to hear from you. You are missed. So, there is a new Minkeeland! Wishing you the best of luck in your new endeavors and wishing you a happy, healthy New Year - may lots mirth and Firth come your way. Let us know what we can do to help!

Minkee.... I have wondered where you've been and what you're up to! Where in the world are you? Surely, if you have little CF where you've moved, you really need to check in here regularly! Good Luck in your new home! Lisa

I'm setting up a topic in the unix conference linked to the web conference. It's help for drool authoris and administrators and other site administrators and austhors. I's called authors and administrators help and you'll find out how to enjoy life with the new system if you're in one of these categories. I got a very insightful email from wx5u@tcares.org - Mickey - whoi has spent time as a user poking around. Today I'm going to masquerade as Karenr and various other authors and administrators and try to understand what life is like for them.

Hi all, I wanted to let you know that the reprise of the tea party/fashion show may be delayed. My web space for pictures hasn't been set up yet on the new server and, until it is, I have no place to put all those photos of our model in his various ensembles. And hi, Minkee! Great to hear from you!

'Pianist' Tops National Critics Awards Sat Jan 4, 9:51 PM ET Add Entertainment - AP to My Yahoo! NEW YORK (AP) - "The Pianist," the biography of a Polish-Jewish pianist and Holocaust survivor, took top prizes for best picture, director, actor and screenplay at the National Society of Film Critics (news - web sites) awards Saturday. Alfonso Cuaron (news)'s coming-of-age romp "Y Tu Mama Tambien" came in second in the best picture voting, while Pedro Almodovar's "Talk to Her," a film about a nurse caring for a comatose ballet dancer, came in third. The group of 55 newspaper and magazine film critics held its 37th awards ceremony at Sardi's Restaurant in Manhattan. The critics honored Roman Polanski (news) for directing "The Pianist," actor Adrien Brody (news) for his portrayal of Wladyslaw Szpilman, and Ronald Harwood for the screenplay. Diane Lane (news) was named best actress for playing an adulterous housewife in "Unfaithful." She finished far ahead in the weighted voting, which awarded decreasing numbers of points to critics' first, second and third choices, of Maggie Gyllenhaal (news) in "Secretary" and Isabelle Huppert in "The Piano Teacher." Christopher Walken (news) was named best supporting actor for his portrayal of a con man's father in "Catch Me If You Can," closely edging Chris Cooper (news)'s orchid lover in "Adaptation." Patricia Clarkson was named best supporting actress for playing a friend of 1950s housewife Julianne Moore (news) in "Far From Heaven." Fiona Shaw (news) received the same amount of weighted votes � 24 � for her performance in the comedy "Triumph of Love," but came in second because she didn't appear on more than half of the ballots. "Far From Heaven" also received an award for Ed Lachman's cinematography. "Standing in the Shadows of Motown" was named best documentary, while "Y Tu Mama Tambien" was named best foreign film. The society awarded a special "film heritage" award to the Kino International film distributor for releasing restored versions of Fritz Lang's "Metropolis" and boxed sets of D.W. Griffith silent films. It gave a special citation to UCLA's film and television archives for work in film restoration.

Thanks for the article, Murph. I'm glad it's the pianist. restored versions of Fritz Lang's "Metropolis" and boxed sets of D.W. Griffith silent films. It gave a special citation to UCLA's film and television archives for work in film restoration. One of my favourite films, Metropolis. Cheers for UCLA! Lately I have had the chance to see: GoNY, I was bored. It is an awful film, don't waste your time. Calling it an epic is an insult to many real epics. DDL will win Best Actor. Chicago, as flashy as it was, does not compare to All that Jazz or Cabaret, two very superior films with superior choreography, IMO. RZ was miscast, she can not sing and she can not dance. She is so stiff when she dances and she does try poor thing. You can really see the difference at the end when she dances with CZJ, who can really dance. RZ has no rhythm. Everytime I saw Richard Gere, I kept thinking of how much better Jeremy Northan would have been in that role. JN can sing. And he did overact. My favourite part of the film was the puppet show, vvg. I see a Best Supporting Oscar for CR. Catch Me if You Can, highly enjoyable, great music, spot on with the costumes of the different era's. It was long but the time flew by. A better film than the other two. Adaptation, took a Woody Allen turn on me. I prefer CK's original scripts to his adaptations. Although overall, it is not a throw away. Far from Heaven I've yet to see, but that might be a rental too. I am not interested in the subject matter of AS. So will wait and rent. The Pianist is the one I am anxious to see. Adrien Brody is a cutie and very nice according to a friend of mine who met him last week in Miami. Saw the previews of CoDangerous Mind and they are advertizing Julia Roberts as if she were co-starring. I thought she only had a cameo? The Hours is next on my list.

This weekend's Ebert & Doper show was their Top 10 lists. Has to be one of the worst years for me in matching up with anything on Roger's list. Reminds me of many, many years ago, when Roger's lists used to consist solely of obscure foreign films. ;-) Ebert: 1. Minority Report 2. City of God 3. Adaptation 4. Far From Heaven 5. 13 Conversations About One Thing 6. Y Tu Mama Tambien 7. Invincible 8. Spirited Away 9. All of Nothing 10. The Quiet American Doper: 1. Gangs of NY 2. 25th Hour 3. Minority Report 4. Y Tu Mama Tambien 5. Adaptation 6. Signs 7. Rabbit-Proof Fence 8. About Schmidt 9. One Hour Photo 10. About A Boy

(Moon)You can really see the difference at the end when she dances with CZJ LOL, I thought the opposite! I felt RZ made CZJ look clunky when they were side by side. But as I said before, I enjoyed them both, especially RZ. CZJ disappears for a big chunk of the pic. As for Gere's role, Kevin Spacey turned it down; he'd have been great. Has a very good voice, and can dance well enough. I too enjoyed the ventriloquist part immensely. I see a Best Supporting Oscar for CR. Who dat? Did anyone here see Minority Report? I've heard nothig but good things and it got great reviews; surprised it hasn't been mentioned more in the awards season, aside from Ebert & Roeper.

Hi Minkee, Sure miss you, hope you are doing well and getting settled. Stop by when you get a chance. It was great to hear from you. Take care.

Hi Minkee, Hope you are getting settled. It must be very exciting. Keep in touch. Thanks for the reports Murph and Karen.

Dateline NBC has a segment on tonight with the Chicago cast--RZ, RG and CZJ. Also, BJD premieres on Encore tonight at 8 & 11. And somewhere in there I'm going to try to catch Wives & Daughters. Missed it last week. Good to hear from you, Minkee! Wishng you well!:-)

(Mari) Did anyone here see Minority Report? I've heard nothig but good things and it got great reviews; surprised it hasn't been mentioned more in the awards season, aside from Ebert & Roeper. I loved it...one of those films the DH would actually go see with me! Not a huge TC fan (like some of the things he has been doing lately though...Vanilla Sky, Eyes Wide Shut and Magnolia). Despite the presence of MB in the film (he has about 3 minutes of screen time and is STILL the worst actor ever), I would recommend seeing it (it's on DVD now). I feel that all December films have pushed MR out of everyone's mind, but still a very well done film (if you like sci-fi). Nice to see Samantha Morton. And "Hello" to Minkee! Glad to hear you are getting settled!

Thanks for the Dateline alert Mari. Just got home from seeing......Chicago! (Moon) (Moon)You can really see the difference at the end when she dances with CZJ (Mari) I felt RZ made CZJ look clunky when they were side by side I could see some difference certainly. Showed up the weight/body type difference. I thought CZJ looked to be the more relaxed, while RZ looked a little over enthusiastic if anything, rather than stiff. Not being a trained dancer, can't say to what degree. But overall I thought they looked v. good together. That scene usually really gets people in my theaters (as it's designed to I'm sure). Will be going again in a week, so will see how my viewpoint changes if any. (Moon) Chicago...does not compare to All that Jazz or Cabaret, two very superior films with superior choreography, IMO. But if I'm not mistaken, Fosse is dead. ;-) I see a Best Supporting Oscar for CR Did you mean JR? Another puppet scene fan here. Love Cell Block Tango, too. Very forceful song in the chorus. (Moon) Adaptation, took a Woody Allen turn on me\ Can you clarify this for me, please. :-) Saw the previews of CoDangerous Mind and they are advertizing Julia Roberts as if she were co-starring. I thought she only had a cameo? She's in about 3 small scenes. Not a blink and you miss it role like the people in Catch Me and Chicago. They need to use her for advertising to bring in butts. She's one of the reasons it was greenlighted, among others.

(Moon)You can really see the difference at the end when she dances with CZJ And look closely, you can actually see red lipstick smeared on RZ's front teeth at the beginning of that last number. See how our movie discussions have made me a much better observer of film ;-)!

For those who saw and liked Road to Perdition, just read that Conrad Hall, the film's cinematographer passed away... Considered an expert in the use of light, Hall filmed nearly three dozen movies in a career that stretched 50 years. He won Academy Awards for 1969's "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" and 1999's "American Beauty." "With 'Road to Perdition' you could virtually take every frame of his work and blow it up and hang it over your fireplace. It was like Rembrandt at work," Zanuck said. "Connie was not known for speed, but neither was Rembrandt. He was known for incredible genius." Wonder if people were planning to give him an Oscar nom. :(

(Mari) Did anyone here see Minority Report? I liked it. (Mari) I felt RZ made CZJ look clunky when they were side by side (Dorine), I could see some difference certainly. Showed up the weight/body type difference. I thought CZJ looked to be the more relaxed, while RZ looked a little over enthusiastic if anything, rather than stiff. She was very willing, but definitely stiff. (Moon) Chicago...does not compare to All that Jazz or Cabaret, two very superior films with superior choreography, IMO. (Dorine), But if I'm not mistaken, Fosse is dead. ;-) True, but the director keeps saying that He thinks Fosse would have approved, I don't. He certainly would not have hired RZ. (Moon), I see a Best Supporting Oscar for CR (Dorine), Did you mean JR? Yes. (Moon) Adaptation, took a Woody Allen turn on me\ (Dorine), Can you clarify this for me, please. :-) That whinning, loser attitude that Charlie takes. It gets old fast, especially since we know that things have gone so very well for him in real life. Also I'm not a follower of Darwin's Theories. He could have done a little more research there too. Please rent Human Nature and see how very brilliant he can be. (Lora), And look closely, you can actually see red lipstick smeared on RZ's front teeth at the beginning of that last number. I saw that too. Way too many close ups in the dance scenes. ;-)

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Look For: PBS in February: Trial By Fire. A Colin One Degree: Juliet Stevenson stars as the persevering prosecutor Helen West in the two-hour Trial by Fire, based on Frances Fyfield's taut psychological thriller, premiering on PBS's MYSTERY! Thursday, February 24, 2000 at 9pm (check local listings). Acclaimed for her roles in Truly, Madly, Deeply, The Politician's Wife, and Cider With Rosie, Stevenson takes up the mantle of the middle-aged female crimefighter in the brisk, sexy style created by Helen Mirren in Prime Suspect. Jim Carter (A Very British Coup; Shakespeare in Love) plays her live-in lover, Geoffrey Bailey, who happens to be chief superintendent of police in the leafy London suburb where they've moved to escape the seamy metropolis. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/mystery/programs/trialfire/full.html

This sounds like a riot! ******* DEC 19 Aishwarya in Bride And Prejudice CALCUTTA (INDIA) -- Bollywood's Aishwarya Rai is set for her debut in international cinema after signing up for Bend It Like Beckham director Gurinder Chadha's next venture, which is based on Jane Austen's classic, Pride And Prejudice. The former Miss World confirmed at a press conference on Tuesday: 'I have signed up with Gurinder Chadha for the film... I got four other offers from Hollywood, but sadly, I couldn't fit them into my schedule.' Chadha has said his film will be a 'cheeky, irreverent' musical titled Bride And Prejudice, and Gladiator star Joaquin Phoenix has been said to be in the cast. The Bennett family of Hertfordshire will become an Indian family in the English-language movie. Aishwarya is in town to work on her debut Bengali film, Chokher Bali. The Rabindranath Tagore classic is being shot by Rituparno Ghosh and will co-star Arjun Rampal. She said acting in films in English or any other language held no special significance. Dressed in the trademark sari of a private airline of which she is a director, she visited Mother Teresa's Missionaries Of Charity and paid respects at her tomb. She also visited Sishu Bhavan, a home for orphans.

'Road to Perdition' you could virtually take every frame of his work and blow it up and hang it over your fireplace." A big Edward Hopper fan obviously. Esp. the scene where they drive up to the diner. Will never forget that film. I am not a sci-fi fan, but I thought Minority Report was v. well crafted. TC has never been better.Worth checking out. Best Movie of the Year? I...don't ....think...so.

Re: Conrad Hall He could still get a posthumous Oscar (a nom I believe is a certainty). Wonder if his medical condition was known, as he received a lifetime achievement from the cinematographers group not very long ago, possibly the same year as American Beauty, when he won from the Oscar and from guild award. An artist with a camera. Definitely. (Moon) She [RZ] is so stiff when she dances and she does try poor thing. OK, haven't seen it yet, but is not the choreography supposed to be Fosse's, which is characterized by ramrod stiffness, except when they do that slithery back wave? And all those "jazz hands" of course. ;-) Naturally, RZ couldn't possibly look as polished as a trained dancer (i.e., anybody behind her), but I'll be on the lookout for this and the lipstick on the teeth. ;-) (Moon) Adaptation, took a Woody Allen turn on me\ (Dorine), Can you clarify this for me, please. :-) (Moon) That whinning, loser attitude that Charlie takes. I don't think we saw the same movie. :-(

is not the choreography supposed to be Fosse's, which is characterized by ramrod stiffness, except when they do that slithery back wave? LOL! I never saw the musical so I would like to hear from someone that can compare. I have heard from a friend that she thought there was less in the film. (Moon) That whinning, loser attitude that Charlie takes. (Karen), I don't think we saw the same movie. :-( I stand by my comment.

(Moon) Adaptation, took a Woody Allen turn on me..... That whinning, loser attitude that Charlie takes. It gets old fast, especially since we know that things have gone so very well for him in real life I'm not sure I understand your reference to his real life. First, this movie isn't an autobiography, but it does have some autobiographical elements. Maybe that's how he feels inside, despite his success. I can't see how his real life can be the basis for a criticism of this movie. He doesn't have a twin brother either, yet he is credited with co-writing the screenplay. And I bet Susan Orlean didn't become a flower drug junkie and chase the brothers through the swamp. Or maybe......;-) And I'm sorry you didn't enjoy Chicago much. :( (Karen)Re: Conrad Hall.....he received a lifetime achievement from the cinematographers group not very long ago Per Reuters: "He was to be honored later this month with a lifetime achievement award from the National Board of Review and a career achievement award from the Palm Springs Intl. Film Festival." (Lora), And look closely, you can actually see red lipstick smeared on RZ's front teeth at the beginning of that last number. Did miss that. Will have to check that out.

Karen)Re: Conrad Hall.....he received a lifetime achievement from the cinematographers group not very long ago Per Reuters: "He was to be honored later this month with a lifetime achievement award from the National Board of Review and a career achievement award from the Palm Springs Intl. Film Festival." No, there was something else at the same time he won the Oscar for Am Beauty (1999-2000), but I can't find it. Hall received a lifetime achievement award from the American Society of Cinematography in 1994. Oh well...

(Dorine), I'm not sure I understand your reference to his real life. First, this movie isn't an autobiography, but it does have some autobiographical elements. Maybe that's how he feels inside, despite his success. The elements I refer to are, CK the real person, writing about his adaptation for a movie. I thought he wrote himself much like Woody does when he goes on with his self-deprecating whinning. I can't see how his real life can be the basis for a criticism of this movie. He criticizes himself, and I can't criticize him for the same thing? ;-) Maybe that's how he feels inside, despite his success. Ugh, yuk. No... he's shown himself to be too brilliant to think himself such a loser.

(Moon) he's shown himself to be too brilliant to think himself such a loser. I never saw him as thinking himself a loser, but afraid of not being able to measure up to the high standards he expects of himself and has proven with his prior work. He wanted this "adaptation" to be as unique as his own original work. I didn't see the whining at all.

(Moon) he's shown himself to be too brilliant to think himself such a loser. And brilliant people commit suicide, too. Can't imagine they'd want to if they thought so highly of themselves. Your perspective on the movie is certainly interesting. :-)

(Dorine), And brilliant people commit suicide, too. Can't imagine they'd want to if they thought so highly of themselves. In fact, he creates Donald, the alter-ego who does die. ;-) (Karen), He wanted this "adaptation" to be as unique as his own original work. I didn't see the whining at all. And it did not turn out as original, IMNSVHO. If you don't call that whinning...

Chicago finally opened here and I saw it over the weekend. Loved it. Thought all three leads were v. good, and was impressed with RZ. I thought she did a fine job. I�m encouraged that musicals are still being made and reinvented. If I remember correctly, the film Cabaret was considered ground breaking as it was the first realistic musical: the song and dance numbers were performed on the stage of the Kit Kat Club by Sally Bowles, the Emcee, etc., rather than the characters of the movie spontaneously bursting into song. I thought it was equally clever that the numbers in Chicago were mostly in Roxie�s imagination�IMO, a creative device that suited the film well. I have not seen the stage version of Chicago, but a friend of mine told me they cut the best song (apparently it was filmed and will most likely be on the DVD). I plan to see CMIYC tomorrow. A major coup for me�two movies in a week! (The Hours has still not opened yet.) PS: George Clooney alert: he�ll be on 60 Minutes II, Wednesday at 9:00 pm EST (new later time.).

I have a PAL video of The English Patient which was on ETV last night in South Africa. If anyone wants it, please email me. Thanks. Yes, yes, I know that you all most probably have it, but this is how far we sometimes are behind the times...

I have a good Conspiracy and 'doggie', but watchable, MOTM and Tumbledown. Any Drool Darling can have it for the postage.

Saw The Hours again last night at a special screening that had Michael Cunningham for Q&A. Fascinating and v. funny! From what he said, anyone who wants to read the source material should really start with Mrs Dalloway, then his book. The Hours started out as simply a modern retelling of Mrs Dalloway (the Meryl Streep storyline). He wasn't terribly satisfied with just that and added the storyline about the day Mrs Dalloway was created, and then finally the Julianne Moore story, who BTW is based on his mother.

Oliver Platt is supposed to be on the Caroline Rhea show today. Maybe he'll say something about HS. If someone can stomach to look at it.

Maybe he'll say something about HS. Don't hold your breath. ;-) He's there to hype his new show, Queens Something or Other, the one with Annabella Sciorra, where they are judges in Queens.

Thanks for the 60 Minutes Clooney alert, Lisa; I'll be watching! Apparently they did the interview at his home; I hope they show his pig.:-) The Hours doesn't open here for another couple of weeks. Karen, where is Michael Cunningham from? He's there to hype his new show, Queens Something or Other Sheesh, Oliver Platt has his own show, Minnie Driver is getting her own show, Heather Graham had good seats to La Boheme . . .;-) All successful HS grads.;-)

He's from LA area, so the cookie-cutter suburban housing tract shown would probably reflect the kind of area where he grew up.

Could be good news for us DL fans: Spielberg Eyes Briton for Starring Role International fame and fortune could be on the cards for Brit-actor Damian Lewis following the news that movie mogul Steven Spielberg is keen to sign him up for the second series of highly successful American TV program Taken. The star, who teamed up with Spielberg in his TV hit Band Of Brothers, spent an entire day with the director. A source says, "Steven pulled out all the stops to impress Damian. He believes Damian is the man to make the second series of Taken even bigger. It's normally impossible to get to spend a whole day with Steven as he's always busy. But when he heard Damian was in town just before Christmas, he invited him to spend the day at his mansion." Lewis was in Hollywood finishing off new movie Dreamcatcher, in which he stars alongside Morgan Freeman, when he got the call.

While I'm sure this is not news to most of us, I think it's interesting he's quoted as saying it. Don't recall reading it before. Heart-Throb Clooney Bares Bottom to Promote Film 1 hour, 32 minutes ago BERLIN (Reuters) - Hollywood heart-throb George Clooney (news) bared his bottom in the movie "Solaris" to stir-up excitement and promote the film, he was quoted telling a German magazine on Wednesday. "If my ass helps the film, I don't have a problem with that," Clooney, 41, told the German edition of Playboy magazine in its February issue. Clooney said the film's promoters found it hard to sell "Solaris" because it was a hybrid of sci-fi and romance. "It's a serious film without any spectacular special effects and, in times like these, these sorts of films can be difficult to promote," he said. Clooney plays a psychologist, Chris Kelvin, sent to a space station orbiting the energy-rich galactic sphere, Solaris, to investigate a string of mysterious deaths. He learns people who travel to Solaris can contact people important to their lives. Hey I'm all for whatever works in this case. ;-)

FYI Renee Zellweger is scheduled for David Letterman Thursday, and The View on Friday.

Saw an utterly fascinating documentary tonight in class.....Lost in La Mancha. It's about Terry Gilliam's (from Monty Python) train wreck of an attempt to film his project The Man Who Killed Don Quixote. An ironic title if there ever was one. Terry Gilliam is indeed Don Quixote himself. The movie was to star Johnny Depp, his girlfriend Vanessa Paradis (sp?), Miranda Richarson, and Jean Rochefort as Don Quixote. It looked to be an *very* interesting film. He spent 10 years trying to make it. Took 5 days of production to be destroyed. There is a review on the imdb.com website for this dated May 22, 2002 that is a fairly good description, though not well written....I will presume due to language difficulties. I completely agree with the last 3 lines. It's interesting that Orson Welles also tried to get a Don Quixote film done and failed. The writer/directors were the guests tonight and said there is a curse Cervantes placed at the end of the 2nd volume. At the time it was for plagiarizers. It seems to go beyond that now. I know the one with Peter O'Toole was made though. The animation that looks like TG's in a segment reviewing TG's film career was in fact the filmmaker's. Definitely fooled me. They also said at $16 mil, it was the most expensive insurance payoff for a film in European history. The budget was $32 mil. He couldn't get funding here. Bad reputation after Baron Munchausen. It opens Jan 31, but I know not where. It's finishing up the film festival circuit now.

Thanks Dorine...I know I'll never get to see it. (Dorine) He couldn't get funding here. Bad reputation after Baron Munchausen. Also no one would go see it except the film cognoscenti. George Clooney was cute on 60 Minutes.He tried to make it light and amusing. The one with Barbara Walters and the Oceans 11 was better. Could they have picked a worse interviewer than Dan Rather?

Thanks, Dorine, for the info. I've seen the trailer for the doc and it looks hilarious. Of course, I followed the attempted making of the actual film because I feared that it would come out and ensure that Donovan Quick would never make it off the shelf or get lost in the shuffle of praise over Gilliam's endeavor. You know, another DL-Valmont situation, especially as Gilliam's a more acclaimed filmmaker than some nobody from BBC Scotland. ;-)

(Karen) I feared that it would come out and ensure that Donovan Quick would never make it off the shelf or get lost in the shuffle of praise over Gilliam's endeavor. Well DQ was finished long before TG started production at least. And DQ was TV, wasn't it? Did it actually air in 1999 or did it sit on the shelf for a while. Would TG's actually have overshadowed it so much? Similar themes also, but very different execution. TMWKDQ had the more traditional characters, costumes, and settings. DQ was more of a metaphor, if I use that term correctly. Forgot to mention Chuck Barris and his wife Patty sat in front of me. They are a very cute couple. Seem extremely happy. Not sure if they regularly will be taking the class or just came for the film last night. I won't know as it's not my regular night to go. (Evelyn) I know I'll never get to see it. Sure you will, eventually. When the DVD/video comes out. I asked him about additional footage and they said it would be on there. First cut was 3 hours. It's now close to 2 I think (didn't look at my watch). Said they had 80 hours of film and it took 2 straight weeks of all day viewing to go through it all. You might also catch it on IFC on TV...he said that's the last stop for it. IFC Films is the distributor, if I understood him correctly. GC was cute. Liked when he tried to coax Max the pig out of his house, LOL. Realized this morning we both have pets named Max, but who couldn't be further apart on the weight scale. Could they have picked a worse interviewer than Dan Rather? Please someone put him out of our misery. :)

(Dorine) Well DQ was finished long before TG started production at least. And DQ was TV, wasn't it? Did it actually air in 1999 or did it sit on the shelf for a while. Here's the chronology: DQ was first announced in Jan 1999. It was filmed sometime after May '99 (summer), as the press release was dated the end of April. Gilliam's project hit THR on April 22, 1999, with the Johnny Depp casting, saying they hoped to start in late summer or early fall. DQ played at the Cork Film Festival in Oct 1999. It was *intended* as a theatrical release, or that's what the makers really wanted, and it does play well on the big screen. Got a good review. However, about the same time, another article said it would be broadcast shortly on BBC, which never happened. Minimal efforts were under way to try to sell this as a theatrical vehicle. But for some reason or other (many speculations), DQ bowed on the Australian (ABC) network in January 2000. I saw DQ at the Chicago FF in Oct 2000 and Donna Franceschild said they really wanted it as a theatrical release but BBC hadn't lifted a finger. So the timing was closer than you might think. Would TG's actually have overshadowed it so much? Absolutely, even though they were done very differently, Gilliam's project had a high profile amongst the film geeks, who love his stuff, whereas DQ would be viewed as just another little film from England, that Americans wouldn't understand because of the accents (sorry, Janet, but that was a stumbling block on this one).

I finally saw Roxie Hart's Diary (aka Chicago). I thought it was great! Really enjoyed it, much more than expected. I was especially impressed with John C. Rielly. I know that everyone has already been talking about this for weeks, but I just wanted to put my dollar in (a day late). ;-)

Yahoo News: Hugh Grant Among New Entrants in Who's Who LONDON (Reuters) - Heartthrob actor Hugh Grant (news), athlete Steve Cram and yachtswoman Ellen MacArthur are among around 1,000 new entries in the latest edition of Who's Who, Britain's bible of the rich and famous. Actress Emily Watson (news) and ballerina Agnes Oaks also made it into the 2003 version of the big red book, to be published on Friday for the 155th consecutive year. Grant, dashing star of "Four Weddings and a Funeral" and "Bridget Jones's Diary," lists football and singing among his hobbies and reveals his two middle names -- John and Mungo. Among the more unusual pastimes listed by entrants are "shelling peas," the favored hobby of writer Richard Boston, and working as "village duck warden," the part-time job of civil servant Georgina Radford. Who's Who has been published annually since 1849, and lists over 32,000 autobiographies of people of note in British society. Entrants remain in the book until they die, when their profiles are transferred to Who Was Who.

(Karen), I feared that it would come out and ensure that Donovan Quick would never make it off the shelf or get lost in the shuffle of praise over Gilliam's endeavor. You know, another DL-Valmont situation, especially as Gilliam's a more acclaimed filmmaker than some nobody from BBC Scotland. ;-) I remember fearing the same thing. In fact, maybe Colin had something to do with a TV release fearing the competition that it would have with TG's version. Conjecture on my part, but possible.

I heard a rumor that we had an unheralded birthday yesterday..... and there's someone here in his birthday suit to help celebrate! Well, okay, not THAT birthday suit, but lovely to look at all the same.... Happy belated birthday, Tress!

Oh! MY! That last post was very dangerous! The past two days I have been plied with too much chocolate and too many lattes...seeing ODB in 'a' birthday suit about gave me a heart attack! My co-workers just had to peel me off the ceiling!! Thank you for the birthday greeting (someone's been tattling on me)!! ;-)

HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TRESS. AND MANY MANY MORE. I see you're date is ready to pick you up, you lucky lucky girl. Great picture Rika.

Tress! You know I won't let you off that easily!! Now get back here and party with me!! Happy Birthday!!!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, TRESS!!! And what very nice Colins have made an appearance! Somebody may have to peel me off the ceiling, too. Are belated birthdays the only kind we do anymore?

(Karen) DQ was first announced in Jan 1999. It was filmed sometime after May '99 Gilliam's project hit THR on April 22, 1999, with the Johnny Depp casting, saying they hoped to start in late summer or early fall. So the timing was closer than you might think. Actually not. TG didn't start filming until late Sept 2000 and the plug was pulled end of Oct by the financiers. DQ was way out of the gate by then. Too bad they didn't capitalize on that and relegated it to TV no less. Here's a link to the web site for Lost in La Mancha. Very good synopsis and interviews with the filmakers. The taller, bald one, Keith (sometimes with a hat) is the one I spoke to after. They both addressed my questions in the Q&A. Keith seemed nice to talk to in person, but displayed a *definite* tude about it all when engaged with people he came with. Not without reason in one instance I overheard. Ok, don't know why I messed up the link, but here: http://www.smart.co.uk/lostinlamancha/lm_index.htm

(Dorine) Actually not. TG didn't start filming until late Sept 2000 and the plug was pulled end of Oct by the financiers. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I am aware of the *actual* start date and what befell the project, but when it was first announced with the Depp et al. cast, it did give all appearances of somewhat rival productions, i.e., a modern retelling of the DQ story vs. a period one.

Belated Happy Birthday, Tress Hopefully (crossing fingers) heres a rose for you:

Happy Day, Tess! Chicklit's good literary web site for women has a new article on "Shakespeare in Love," comparing it to what is known of S's real life. Interesting. http://www.chicklit.com/paperjam/paperjam40.html

Happy belated birthday, Tress! You and the great David Bowie! You were very naughty, you should have told us sooner.

Rika, you shouldn't tease us; that's not nice! Birthday suit, indeed, LOL! Tress, happy belated birthday!!!

Happy Birthday, Tress! Here are some lovely Tress-es in honor of your special day!

Happy Birthday, Tress. I'm so glad Lord Dashwood and Valmont dropped by...Have fun!!!

Thanks again to Rika for bringing Lord Dashwood! Love a man who knows how to dress (or undress when needed...) ;-D (FanPam) I see you're date is ready to pick you up, you lucky lucky girl. I am more than willing to share! Thank you for the warm wishes! You are truly a good friend! (MariaT) Now get back here and party with me!! Oooohhh! I'm more than ready to party with ODB! Thanks so much for the yummy picture (you must know I like those hand shots)! ;-) (KathyF) Somebody may have to peel me off the ceiling, too. LOL...I'll move over..there is plenty of room up here! Annette, thank you so much for the rose! It will be a lovely addition to the flowers that my co-workers gave me this morning! Thanks for the birthday wishes lindak and Mary!! (Moon) Happy belated birthday, Tress! You and the great David Bowie! And Mr. Presley. Due to all the Elvis tributes on my birthday, everytime I hear a tune by The King, I'm like Pavlov's dog (what was that dog's name anyway?), I think I'm getting presents! And David Bowie is great! You were very naughty, you should have told us sooner. ahh...schucks...I'm just shy! ;-) (moonstar) Rika, you shouldn't tease us; that's not nice! Birthday suit, indeed, LOL! I know! See earlier comment about a heart attack! I was all worked up thinking about a nekk'd picture of ODB! I thought maybe the DVDiva had been holding out on us! Still, the look in that picture is enough to make me have to take a seat (so am secretly glad that it wasn't a real 'birthday suit picture' as I would be comatose right now)! ;-) Lora!!! Thank you! I think I may need help getting ODB out of those wet clothes! Don't want him to catch cold and be late for the party!! I'll also have to comb those locks out...such sacrifices! LOL!

Happy Birthday Tress!!! Hope it has been a good one!

Oops...sorry I'm late... But then it's never too late to celebrate ... Happy Birthday Tress

Along with Tress...I too just saw CHICAGO. ( We're slow in mid-America). CZJ and Renee were super, but Richard Gere was the real stand-out. He gave the film momentum and pizzaz.The court-room scene alone would win him the GG nom.I saw the stage play six years ago with Bebe Newirth. She played the role of Roxie brassier; Renee is more vulnerable. The stage play gave a larger scope of the action. Some of the scenes played simultaneously.The "He Got What He Deserved" (always my fave) was the same. The puppet scene will be a classic in musicals. I loved it. Pure entertainment...park your brain at the door...no obscure plot or message to dissect. Just sit back and tap your feet.

Saw trailer for.....*drum roll*.... LE DIVORCE (forgot it's on my famous night table!) Gaaaagh... it looks boring. But who knows with Colin's feet coming out of the garbage can, perhaps it would have been a winner.;-) Also...hey Mari...don't dispair...your fave...Jack Nicholson along with Adam Sandler is due for another doosey this spring..."Anger Management". As they say....the hits keep comin'....;-))))))

Damn,I can't see a thing! Wait a tick . . . I see presents . . .and they're rolling in a cake now . . .it says "Happy Birthday, Tress!"

(Evelyn)CZJ and Renee were super, but Richard Gere was the real stand-out. I liked him, too. Did you see him on the Today Show this morning? Matt Lauer has been interviewing cast members all week. Gere is a riot. I had no idea he was so funny, had the place in hysterics. BTW, they had Queen Latifah on earlier im the week (I giggle every time I think of her Mama in the blonde Roxie 'do!) and Matt said Kathy Bates, Bette Midler and Rosie O'D had all been considered for the role. Half of Hollywood auditioned for this fim. Yes, auditioned. ;-) Charlie Rose has John C. Reilly on tonight. Also, Jason Patric from Narc, which looks great (Dorine, I know you mentioned this one as a goodie).

HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY, TRESS!

Happy Birthday, Tress!! It's nice to see Lord Dashwood dropped by. Did he take you for a *ride* in the Rolls? ;-D

Tress, the dancer I ordered for your birthday party FINALLY arrived.....

Hey Dashwood! Is that a crease in your leather pants or are you just wishing Tress a *really* Happy Birthday! ;-D

Evelyn, thank you for the bubbly. It will help to wash down the 37 cupcakes that a girl from work made me...for some reason she thought it would be a good idea to make one for every year I've been around! I may need all the champagne I can get! Thanks for the birthday greetings Barb and Karen! And Dorine....LOL....I did tell Lord D to bring the STRETCH limo as I needed the room to house all my cupcakes! ;-D Mari! Thank you for bringing Guy to the party....he needs to put down those glasses and come help me eat my treats (he IS looking a bit thin!). And Rika! What can I say???? Nothin' is mo betta than a boy in black leather! Danke schon! ODB can be my private dancer any old time! ;-) Thank you everyone for making my day so much fun!!!

(Mari) Kathy Bates, Bette Midler and Rosie O'D had all been considered for the role Bette Midler I could see. Maybe. Definitely more than the rest. Charlie Rose has John C. Reilly on tonight. Also, Jason Patric from Narc, which looks great Thanks a lot, Mari. Glad I looked here when I did. Unfortunately missed JCR for the end of the umpteenth viewing of BJD on Encore, but caught 95% of Jason Patric. I have to say, he is much more attractive.....on TV! God, I wish he'd talked this much or articulately at the Q&A as he did with CR. What a great interview I thought. Couldn't get him to say more than a few words even with questions directed to him when we saw him. Ray Liotta was quite verbose though. Had I known how articulate and interesting he is, think I would've either ditched talking to his grandmother, or stayed around until I saw if he walked up to say goodbye. (Actually, she was adorable). Think the gfriend was there though. :( And Narc is a very gritty film, but well done. Several twists, the last in the last few minutes. Anybody see RZ? Too funny! Think she loaded up at that Starbucks she mentioned beforehand. Chuck Barris a riot, too. Both of Dave's interviews/guests were the best I'd seen in a loooong time. But I don't watch often anymore.

Dear Tress, I realised it was your birthday after the fact, as I was busy lamenting the loss of another. If only there had been antibiotics and Nyquil. If only there had been a better script�. Hope you had a wonderful day!

Thank you LisaJH! Glad to see Armand stop by.....he does look a little glum. Think he wants a cupcake??? ;-) Maybe he wouldn't be so sad if his cravats weren't so huge (still there is that question of a better script as well....LOL).

(Dorine) Anybody see RZ? Too funny! Think she loaded up at that Starbucks she mentioned beforehand. I should say so. I remember her on Letterman promoting BJD and she was a lot more relaxed. Chuck Barris a riot, too. Yes! I loved how he played cat-and-mouse with Dave about how much truth there is in the book.

(Evelyn), park your brain at the door...no obscure plot or message to dissect. The one that gets the nooze, is the only one that claims to be innocent and prays and recites the Rosary, and can't afford the big bucks for the lawyer. ;-) (Doreen), Anybody see RZ? Too funny! Think she loaded up at that Starbucks she mentioned beforehand. interviews/guests were the best I'd seen in a loooong time. I thought RZ was awful. She tried to tell that GG story but Dave cut her off. And her entrance! She looked so "Barbie Doll." Her face looks different too as if she might have had some surgery.

What a birthday party ladies for such a great girl!!!! Does anyone know if she's made it home yet? I think not. RZ was great on Letterman. Good interview, altghough agree she seemed a bit hyper. Watching her on The View now. She seems calmer. Good sense of humor and like her hair.

Did anyone see RZ on the Today Show this morning? At the very end, Matt asked her if the rumors that she and George were back together were true; she seemed to be confirming it, but they ran out of time and the damn music started up, drowning her out! Argh! Could anyone catch what was said? Too bad Katie didn't do the interview; she'd have gotten the scoop on TEOR for sure!:-) (Dorine re: Jason Patric)I have to say, he is much more attractive.....on TV! God, I wish he'd talked this much or articulately at the Q&A as he did with CR. I had the same reaction, Dorine--what an interesting and articulate guy! Yet when Diane Sawyer interviewed him on GMA the other day, he was monosyllabic. Guess he felt comfortable with Charlie. (Tress)Maybe he wouldn't be so sad if his cravats weren't so huge LOL, they could make draperies out of that thing!

(Moon) Her face looks different too as if she might have had some surgery. So it wasn't just me. Have her lips always been that full?

Must agree with Moon about Renee's face; it does look different from her Bridget- days.Collagen shots after loss of weight??? She is cadaverous. I just saw her on The View. Barbara W. asked her about the George Clooney rumors. She tried to change the subject...but B. persisted. Renee says they are "just friends" like to play basketball together and discuss politics.Spoke highly of his kindness to his friends. Evelyn), park your brain at the door...no obscure plot or message to dissect. (Moon)The one that gets the nooze, is the only one that claims to be innocent and prays and recites the Rosary, and can't afford the big bucks for the lawyer. ;-) LOL. Moon..."sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...";-) On a different subject: "NATURAL NYLON ENTERTAINMENT, the film and theatre production company founded by JUDE LAW, SADIE FROST and EWAN McGREGOR has folded. The company was set up in 2000. Natural Nylon also teamed up with the Ambassador's Theatre Group in 2001. Their joint aim was to produce "an exciting range of drama, comedy and mid-scale musicals on the British stage". Most notable to date was Natural Nylon's staging of "Dr Faustus" at Young Vic in 2002, starring Jude Law. Ewan McGregor resigned from the company in October 2002 because his mounting film commitments. Now both Jude Law and Sadie Frost have withdrawn because of other commitments." I was fortunate to see Dr. Faustus; thanks to Donna who got the tickets. He shudda sold the company to YKW who doesn't have 'mounting film commitments'

Evelyn), I was fortunate to see Dr. Faustus; thanks to Donna who got the tickets. You were very lucky! He shudda sold the company to YKW who doesn't have 'mounting film commitments' YKW, doesn't have the foresight. ;-) LOL. Moon..."sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...";-) Oh, cherie, once you puff on the mini-Montecristos, you realize that a cigar is not just a cigar. ;-D On RZ, I must add that I always found her annoying. She looks awkward and I can't stand her voice. And, in fact, I would love to see someone else play Bridget in TEOR. Kate Winslet was my choice.

(Rika)Have her lips always been that full? Yes, absolutely. As for her face and body, I notice no great differnce. She is a bit tan, I suppose, but that is to be expected, Miss Bingleys, when one travels in the summmer.;-) Seriously, rent her pre-BJD movies. Try "One True Thing," with RZ, Meryl Streep and William Hurt. Excellent film and performances, and as a bonus you'll see just how boney her knees always were.;-) (Moon)And, in fact, I would love to see someone else play Bridget in TEOR. Kate Winslet was my choice. You have to be kidding. Was just watching BJD again last night on Encore and she is so perfect--every inflection, every facial expression, so many little things she brings to the role. The viewer falls in love with this girl. Besides, Kate Winslet is a bitch in real life, and full of crap in her interviews. Good actress, I will grant you.

Mari: "Seriously, rent her pre-BJD movies. Try "One True Thing," with RZ, Meryl Streep and William Hurt." And Nicky Katt....though I have no memory of him in that film. I was probably crying too hard.

I wanted to add that I have found a terrific Meryl Streep web site if anyone wants to check it out. http://www.merylstreeponline.net/

(Moon) I thought RZ was awful. She tried to tell that GG story but Dave cut her off. That's funny, my impression was that she cut herself off while Dave was trying to drag the story out of her. Not sure why she didn't want to tell it, it's funny. Maybe she thought it would take too long or was old news. It could've been told succinctly, yet be amusing I think. Maybe she changed her mind after the pre-interview. On RZ, I must add that I always found her annoying. She looks awkward and I can't stand her voice. Now I understand part of the etiology of your scathing review of Chicago. ;-) Has anyone seen Kate Winslet on the cover or Harper's Bazaar or one of those mags?....she looks absolutely amazing to me. Stunning. Matter of fact, didn't believe it was her at first.

(Moon), On RZ, I must add that I always found her annoying. She looks awkward and I can't stand her voice. (Dorine), Now I understand part of the etiology of your scathing review of Chicago. ;-) In my defense, Chicago is a film I was predisposed to like. There are some enjoyable moments, but I would change Richard Gere for Jeremy Northan. And I would change RZ for someone who can sing and has inborn rhythm. RZ has physicality and that's why the puppet show worked so well. I will also add that I liked her Bridget, her British accent toned down that high pitch voice. I don't think her new look suits Bridge at all. Has anyone seen Kate Winslet on the cover or Harper's Bazaar or one of those mags?....she looks absolutely amazing to me. Stunning. And she has a beautiful body. Going to see the Pianist tonight. Tomorrow taking the boys to Nicholas N.

(Dorine)Has anyone seen Kate Winslet on the cover or Harper's Bazaar or one of those mags?....she looks absolutely amazing to me. Stunning. Matter of fact, didn't believe it was her at first. She didn't believe it was her either--or so she says. Read about Airbrush-gate here: http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_738155.html?menu= Let us know about P and NN, Moon.

English Patient's Minghella to Head Film Institute LONDON (Reuters) - Oscar-winning film director and writer Anthony Minghella (news) was named on Friday to head the British Film Institute, created 70 years ago to make film more accessible to the public. "I am delighted and honored to be joining the BFI as Chair," Minghella, 49, said in a statement. "Most of all I want to promote a BFI whose work is better understood by the public." Minghella, a former drama teacher who moved to writing for Muppeteer Jim Henson (news) and then into filmmaking, is best known for his 1996 Oscar-winning The English Patient for which he wrote the screenplay and directed. He started feature filmmaking five years earlier with the popular romance Truly, Madly, Deeply starring Alan Rickman (news) and Juliet Stevenson. He also directed The Talented Mr. Ripley with Gwyneth Paltrow (news), Matt Damon (news) and Jude Law (news), and has completed principal photography on his latest epic Cold Mountain with Law, Nicole Kidman (news) and Renee Zellweger (news). Minghella, born in January 1954 in the Isle of Wight, will head the 15-seat board of governors of the BFI, a charity which was set up in 1933 to spread the word about British cinema. Among its assets it has the world's most extensive film and television archive including 275,000 feature films dating back to 1894, 210,000 television programs and seven million film stills. It runs the renowned National Film Theater and hosts the annual Regus London Film Festival which attracts audiences and directors from around the world.

(Mari) She didn't believe it was her either--or so she says. Read about Airbrush-gate here: ... Followed the additional link at the bottom of the page Mari referenced...this quote closes the article.... In the GQ interview she says: "What is sexy? All I know from the men I've spoken to is that women think in order to be adored they have to be thin. Very thin. I just don't understand that way of thinking." Kate Kate Kate, you said that then let them airbrush you? And GQ, WTG to prove her point.

From the Masterpiece Theatre newsletter: Masterpiece Theatre's 32nd winter season promises rich viewing in the traditional Masterpiece vein; we're offering the pastoral, the supernatural, the romantic and the adventurous. Join us for another superb season. Here's what's ahead: Sunday, January 12, 2003 MY UNCLE SILAS II Albert Finney returns as rustic rapscallion Uncle Silas in five new sketches from the charming country tales of H. E. Bates. The jovial thatcher poaches, revels, wenches, and waxes eloquent to the continued amusement of great-nephew Edward (Joe Prospero) and the consternation of his housekeeper Mrs. Betts (Sue Johnston). Sunday January 19, 2003 THE HOUND OF THE BASKERVILLES "Bleak, brooding and violent... terrific fare... part murder mystery, part Gothic ghost story and superbly well done... marvellous." {The Daily Mirror} The hellhound of the moors imperils the world's greatest detective in Arthur Conan Doyle's classic tale of sleuthing versus the supernatural. Richard Roxburgh (Moulin Rouge, The Road from Coorain) stars as the indomitable Sherlock Holmes with Ian Hart (Harry Potter) as the tenacious Dr. Watson, along with an exceptional cast and the hellhound itself, a truly terrifying beast brought to life as never before with state-of-the-art, computer-generated special effects. Sunday, January 26, 2003 ME & MRS JONES Robson Green (Reckless, Touching Evil) stars as Liam Marple, alias tabloid columnist "Mrs. Jones." Assigned to get the dirt on the comely Prime Minister (Caroline Goodall, Princess Diaries, The Sculptress), Liam poses as a political fundraiser to strike up a friendship. As amity turns into torrid romance, his editor and ex-wife (Keeley Hawes, Othello) wonders why his copy is losing its bite. Liam wonders what will happen when the PM learns the truth. Sundays, February 2 through 23, 2003 FOYLE'S WAR Coastal Britain during World War II... Amid the disorder and danger, Police Inspector Christopher Foyle (Michael Kitchen, The Railway Children, Oliver Twist, Reckless) faces four cases. As bombs sporadically fall, he and his driver Samantha Steward (Honeysuckle Weeks) deal with murder, espionage, and treason. Ever shorthanded, Foyle gets invalid soldier Paul Milner (Anthony Howell, Wives and Daughters) as a brilliant if emotionally unhinged assistant. Sunday and Monday, March 30 & 31, 2003 DANIEL DERONDA George Eliot's last, most ambitious novel charts a love story set in Victorian high society and takes a surprising turn into the hidden world of English Jews. Hugh Dancy (Madame Bovary) stars as Daniel Deronda, and Romala Garai is his soul mate Gwendolen Harleth. Though entranced with Daniel, Gwendolen is forced into an oppressive marriage to Henleigh Grandcourt (Hugh Bonneville, The Cazalets), while Daniel finds a new life through his friendship with singer Mirah (Johdi May, Turn of the Screw). The screenplay is by Masterpiece Theatre's drama favorite Andrew Davies (Middlemarch, Moll Flanders, Wives and Daughters, Othello, The Way We Live Now).

Thanks Karen...lots of goodies coming up " Andrew Davies (Middlemarch, Moll Flanders, Wives and Daughters, Othello, The Way We Live Now)." MT likes to toot their own horn...they ain't gonna credit AD with his most famous screenplay that was presented on A&E.LOL.

Saw The Pianist yesterday. It will be a tough one for many people to take; doesn't sugar coat anything. I was only mildly critical of the way Polanski chose to depict the two uprisings, especially the first (Warsaw Ghetto Uprising) but do understand the POV. Adrien Brody is excellent and right now it's a tough call for me between him and DDL. Oh yes! No one got up when the credits started rolling. People sat and waited until it was completely through. Don't think I've seen that for a long time.

NYer review http://www.newyorker.com/critics/cinema/?030113crci_cinema NY TIMES : "The ambition to produce a comprehensive vision ? a single spectacle adequate to the Holocaust ? ultimately defeated Steven Spielberg's admirable and serious "Schindler's List." Mr. Polanski, in staging a narrow, partial slice of history, has made a film that is both drier and more resonant than Mr. Spielberg's http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/27/movies/27PIAN.html?8mu One reviewer I read said Polanski was too easy on the Poles . Many of whom sided with the Nazis. How did you like "Georgianna"?;-) This is one I won't miss.

Regarding RZ, I agree with you Moon that she does have an annoying voice, but I can�t say that it detracted from my enjoying her in APAR, OTT, BJD (agree that it was lower in this one) or Chicago, as I do think she is a good actress. I, too, saw her on Letterman and the View (yes, I do other things than watch TV�I swear!), and I noticed that rather than look people in the eye when she spoke, RZ looked down a lot. I found that very annoying. Regarding the GC interview by DR, agree it could have been better. And what�s with Dan Rather�s hair? I hate it when these guys try to look modern, as all it does is make them look that much older�.. ( I can�t stand to look at Matt Lauer anymore, either, since he decided to shave his head and keep it a length � of an inch.) Anyway, loved the fact that they did talk about the pig! Speaking of which, here�s a shot of George and Max when he first got the little piggie:

LOL, Lisa, such a sweet picture. Colin and George will have pig stories to exchange on the set of TEOR. ;-) Thanks, Karen for the Masterpiece T. info. (Karen), Adrien Brody is excellent and right now it's a tough call for me between him and DDL. Oh yes! No one got up when the credits started rolling. People sat and waited until it was completely through. Don't think I've seen that for a long time. Everyone stayed here too. I loved it! This is my choice for Best Picture. Adrian Brody was excellent. It will be a tough call betwen him and DDL but I would go for Brody. DDL appears too much as a cartoon caricature. Was there anyone more out of place than Scorsese in that scene at the table? Ridiculous! LOL! GoNY is so awful. I liked Georgianna too. ;-) This is Polanski at his best.

(NYer) Mr. Polanski, in staging a narrow, partial slice of history, has made a film that is both drier and more resonant than Mr. Spielberg's Very true. It wasn't a tearjerker the way Schindler's List was for many people. You got a more true sense of the horror in day-to-day life. One reviewer I read said Polanski was too easy on the Poles. Many of whom sided with the Nazis. Many? How about the majority? Yes, he was too easy on them, choosing only two characters as the embodiment of that view. Instead, you had Szpilman being in contact with others who were active in the Underground and therefore anti-Nazi. That they helped Szpilman had more to do with "who" he was as an artist than his religion.' Georgiana was fine, but I was getting her mixed up with another blonde. Drove me nuts that they looked so similar. Happened with other characters as well. A real mish-mash of supporting, unknown players. Oh yes, and the guy from TIOBE was in it too. The out-of-breath little guy who came to summon Rev Chasuble that Miss Prism was waiting for him in the vestry. Hey! And they used accents too (could hear the underlying British accent in many cases) but not at all caricatured.

Thanks for posting the MT info Karen. I sure hope MT can find another sponsor soon, so they can continue offering decent programming. Evelyn)MT likes to toot their own horn...they ain't gonna credit AD with his most famous screenplay that was presented on A&E.LOL. Evelyn, that was my first thought, too. ;-D Thanks, Ladies, for the info on The Pianist. This is the movie I have been waiting to see, along with The Hours.

(Karen), That they helped Szpilman had more to do with "who" he was as an artist than his religion.' That holds true also for the Nazi at the end. That Art would unite all! Georgiana was fine, but I was getting her mixed up with another blonde. Drove me nuts that they looked so similar. Happened with other characters as well This was interesting and obviously done on purpose. Maybe stereotyping the Poles as the Jews had also been stereotyped. Hey! And they used accents too (could hear the underlying British accent in many cases) but not at all caricatured. Which proves it can be done.

(Moon) That holds true also for the Nazi at the end. That Art would unite all! Perhaps you should've written *SPOILER*???? ;-) Yes, he appreciated the artist and was the only "good German soldier," but he could represent more than that. He was a realist. He knew the war was coming to an end and they were going to lose any day now. Why bother?

(Karen)Oh yes, and the guy from TIOBE was in it too. The out-of-breath little guy who came to summon Rev Chasuble that Miss Prism was waiting for him in the vestry. LOL. Wasn't he the little gardener who blesses himself during the urn scene? (Karen)Hey! And they used accents too (could hear the underlying British accent in many cases) but not at all caricatured. (Moon) Which proves it can be done. I like movies that are authentic...even if the accents aren't flawless. Which was my objection to "Conspiracy"...they didn't even try. Consequently, Bruce Cox creamed them. Speaking of accents...did you catch Dominic West as the sleazy boyfriend in "Chicago?" Miniscule part...but mobetta that TTOTS;-)

(Evelyn) I like movies that are authentic...even if the accents aren't flawless. Which was my objection to "Conspiracy"...they didn't even try. I didn't mind the "Conspiracy" accents. I dated a German for 2 1/2 years. He had studied English at university and when I first met him I thought he was from the UK. His accent had no trace of German in it...all his friends had similar accents. When I went to London with him, people there thought he was English as well (until they heard his name). Many Germans do have German accents when they speak, but some do not (so many begin studying English at such a young age that the accent is negligible)....Granted in "Conspiracy" they would have been speaking German to each other, but if they HAD been speaking English, some of them may very well have sounded as they did in the film. I did note that ODB did a great job on pronouncing the German names (much better than I could have done ;-) ).

Adaptation...SPOILERS... Just got back from seeing Adaptation -There I was, enjoying the interweaving plot about writer's bloc, and the Meryl Streep/Chris Cooper relationship, when the two plots came together and whole film went haywire, giving us a lot more violence than I cared, or needed, to see. The movie, written by Charlie Kaufman (Being John Malkovich), is about a brother who can't write his script adapting the real book "The Orchard Thief," and finally gets the help of his twin. All I can figure is that in "real life," Charlie couldn't figure it out either, sniffed some glue or something, and just decided what the heck, let's go crazy. Movies like this make me angry! Anyone else see it? Care to comment? The major critics called it brilliant. Well, at least 3/4 of it was. Guess I am too nuance-deprived for Mr. Jonze.

(Tress) Granted in "Conspiracy" they would have been speaking German to each other, but if they HAD been speaking English, some of them may very well have sounded as they did in the film. You have to take into consideration the times. These guys didn't study at English universities. (Murph) The major critics called it brilliant. Well, at least 3/4 of it was. Guess I am too nuance-deprived for Mr. Jonze. I think you might have missed what he was trying to show with that ending. I was laughing myself silly, once I realized what was going on. Of course, no one else around me was. They took it seriously, not undertstanding that Kaufman put a formulaic Hollywood ending on the movie. It was a big joke. Of course, Moon told me she preferred the "last act" to the first two. Now, that I find strange. ;-)

Oh yeah!! SPOILERS above. ;-) and below The ending represented what Hollywood would've done to the book. Get it?

Like he told them he specifically didn't want to do if I'm not mistaken. I actually liked this better than BJM. But enjoyed them both. Didn't realize script guru in the movie actually is one.

Thanks for the "Adaptation" comments.Definitely a 'renter' Think I'd rather see "Maid in Manhattan"..... again;-)

DUH! - Hitting myself aside the head -- Now I get it. Thanks, Karen. No one in our theater laughed. They didn't get it either. Joe says he agrees with you, and that the relationship of Cooper and Streep was also a bow to conventional Hollywood. Working relationship turns tender...

Heard today that Sophia Loren has been offered the role of Lady Penelope in the live action remake of 'Thunderbirds'. Hardly typically English aristocrat! - Got me thinking. Edward Fox would make a wonderful Parker. I can just imagine him saying, "Yes, milady"!

Can you tell me if there has been a discussion of Apartment Zero in the past. I've just seen it for the first time and would like to get a better understanding of it.

Karen postet a link some time ago: topic 166, posting 708. Very interesting reading material indeed.

(Dorine) Didn't realize script guru in the movie actually is one. You mean the name of Brian Cox's character? Lots of SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!! (Murph) Hitting myself aside the head No need for that and glad to be of service. Actually, when I saw it, I was slow to pick up the transition. I knew something had happened when Meryl Streep's character went completely out of character when she said they would have to kill him. But I believe the transition actually occurred right after the script guru's seminar. As he was berating bad scripts (use of voiceover narrative), I realized most of them were in this movie. But then he screamed, don't you dare use a cheap deus ex machina to resolve your script problems. That's exactly what Brian Cox's character turned out to be, a deus ex machina. After that, you got nothing but cheap Hollywood cliches: illicit love affair, drugs, a chase scene, murders, the alligator and then at the end, you had the "hope of a happy ending" for Charlie's character with that girl.

BBC Conducted a poll Top Five Actresses: 1. Dawn Steele (Monarch of the Glen) 2. Haydn Gwynne (Merseybeat) 3. Jennifer Ehle (Pride & Prejudice) 4. Michelle Holmes (Merseybeat) 5. Tamzin Outhwaite (Red Cap) Even after seven years.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/fun.shtml Next week Top Actors: Vote Now so Anthony Sher doesn't win;-) (Wasn't that the one who beat Colin once ..or was it Anthony Andrews?)

SPOILERS again... Just another opinion on the ending of Adaptation from David Demby of the New Yorker's review in December (an aside - I love Meryl Streep in anything. That wonderful face and the talent behind it never disappoints): "...But the distraught Charlie, to our amazement, is impressed by McKee's platitudes, and abruptly turns the orchid story into a violent melodrama after all. What then envelops Orlean and Laroche and Charlie (who writes himself into the story) is awful nonsense. Drugs, guns, car crashes, alligators - the movie becomes a complete shambles, and far more desperate than anything conventional filmmakers would fall into. It's hard to know how to read this mess of an ending. Is it a way of throwing in the towel after a long struggle and "adapting" to Hollywood? Or is it meant to be taken as a savage parody of selling out? The first possibility is sad, the second condescending to the audience. The trouble with experimental comedies is that it's often impossilbe to figure out how to end them. But a least this one is intercate fun before it blows itself up."

Karen: I posted the above before reading your opinion. You say exactly what Denby says. Thanks!

Me Again... Evelyn, I followed up on your note about best actresses at the BBC fun section, and found this Andrew Davies Quiz: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/quiz.pl?QUIZDATA=dramquiz_davies.dat&WEBSITE=drama

(Murph) You say exactly what Denby says. LOL! But not exactly with his conclusion about the ending. It's hard to know how to read this mess of an ending. Is it a way of throwing in the towel after a long struggle and "adapting" to Hollywood? Or is it meant to be taken as a savage parody of selling out? The first possibility is sad, the second condescending to the audience. I took it as the latter, but didn't think it was condescending at all. Sheesh! How can it be condescending when most people don't get it. You would think if he was talking down to his audience, it would be simple. It isn't, hence the confusion. BTW, I heard last night that, if Adaptation is nominated for a screenwriting award, Donald will be credited. The Academy doesn't care whether he's real or not. Once before, someone gave the credit to his dog, who eventually won the Oscar for Greystokes. ;-)

(Dorine) Didn't realize script guru in the movie actually is one. (Karen) You mean the name of Brian Cox's character? Yes, Robert McKee. For some reason when looking for books on the subject, I discounted his and apparently put his name out of my consciousness completely.

I don't know why you folks who have seen ADAPTATION are prefacing your comments with "Spoilers". Frankly, I think you're doing the audience a favor. Sounds like a gimmick to me. IMO any film with a story-line that needs a cheat-sheet to be understood is being disingenuous to the audience.I don't care how good the acting is.

*SPOILERS* ;-) (Karen), Moon told me she preferred the "last act" to the first two. Now, that I find strange. ;-) It was a riot to see how he had written in all the cheap deus ex machina after the script guru's seminar. The comedy finally turned in. The first parts dragged on. and then at the end, you had the "hope of a happy ending" for Charlie's character with that girl. And that Charlie was out-of-character with the way Charlie had been portrayed throughout the film. Or is it meant to be taken as a savage parody of selling out? The first possibility is sad, the second condescending to the audience. (Karen), I took it as the latter, but didn't think it was condescending at all. Sheesh! How can it be condescending when most people don't get it. You would think if he was talking down to his audience, it would be simple. First of all, CK does not write for most people. Second, he blew this one big time. Will repeat self: Rent "Human Nature."

(Evelyn) Sounds like a gimmick to me. IMO any film with a story-line that needs a cheat-sheet to be understood is being disingenuous to the audience *scratching head* I don't recall you're saying that for Memento, which had the granddaddy of all gimmicks. ;-)

I know...I didn't get that one either.Even tried to play it backwards on the DVD!! LOL.Doesn't work. But I did like "Croupier";-)

(Evelyn) I know...I didn't get that one either.Even tried to play it backwards on the DVD!! Did you watch it on the Limited Edition DVD? There is an egg for that one that will put the film in chronological order for you. Try this site if you own the DVD and it will tell you how to get there: http://www.eeggs.com/items/34998.html

(Janet) Heard today that Sophia Loren has been offered the role of Lady Penelope in the live action remake of 'Thunderbirds'. Hardly typically English aristocrat! Wrong Sophia, I'm afraid. ;-) Someone named Sophia Myles. Here's the news item, but I'm afraid I've never heard of the 'Thunderbirds': LONDON -- After more than five years of planning, script rewrites, casting conundrums and decisions over directors, a live-action film version of the 1960s cult U.K. television show "Thunderbirds" is a go. Under the guidance of Working Title Films, the fantasy adventure is scheduled to begin shooting in March on location in the Seychelles, with studio work at Pinewood Studios in the United Kingdom. Directed by Jonathan Frakes ("Star Trek: Insurrection") from a script by William Osborne ("The Scorpion King"), the film, with an estimated budget of more than $50 million, marks Working Title's largest production. Universal Pictures has worldwide rights to "Thunderbirds," which is being produced by Working Title co-chairmen Tim Bevan and Eric Fellner along with Mark Huffam. Casting is being finalized, and Working Title expects to announce full casting in the next week. The company said it has already cast British actress Sophia Myles ("The Abduction Club") in one of the film's key roles, Lady Penelope. British p oduction house Framestore has been signed to carry out the extensive special effects works that will be required on the picture, producer Bevan said Friday from Working Title's Los Angeles outpost. ~~~~ Hmmm, anything here for Colin? Action film? Seychelles? Wouldn't appear so. ;-)

2002 7th Golden Satellite Awards (nominations December 17, 2002; to be awarded January 12, 2003) Best Motion Picture - Drama Antwone Fisher * Far from Heaven The Hours The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers The Quiet American Road to Perdition Best Actress - Drama Selma Hayek - Frida Nicole Kidman - The Hours * Diane Lane - Unfaithful Julianne Moore - Far from Heaven Meryl Streep - The Hours Sigourney Weaver - The Guys Best Actor - Drama * Michael Caine - The Ugly American * Daniel Day-Lewis - Gangs of New York Jack Nicholson - About Schmidt Edward Norton - 25th Hour Robin Williams - One Hour Photo Best Supporting Actress - Drama Kathy Bates - About Schmidt * Edie Falco - Sunshine State Julianne Moore - The Hours Miranda Richardson - Spider Do Thi Hai Yen - The Quiet American Renee Zellweger - White Oleander Best Supporting Actor - Drama Jeremy Davies - Solaris * Dennis Haysbert - Far from Heaven Alfred Molina - Frida Viggo Mortensen - Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Paul Newman - Road to Perdition Dennis Quaid - Far from Heaven Best Motion Picture - Comedy or Musical About a Boy Adaptation Chicago Igby Goes Down * My Big Fat Greek Wedding Punch Drunk Love Best Actress - Comedy or Musical Jennifer Aniston - The Good Girl Maggie Gyllenhaal - Secretary Catherine Keener - Lovely & Amazing Nia Vardalos - My Big Fat Greek Wedding * Jennifer Westfeldt - Kissing Jessica Stein Renee Zellweger - Chicago Best Actor - Comedy or Musical Nicolas Cage - Adaptation * Kieran Culkin - Igby Goes Down Hugh Grant - About a Boy Sam Rockwell - Confessions of a Dangerous Mind Adam Sandler - Punch Drunk Love Aaron Stanford - Tadpole Best Supporting Actress - Comedy or Musical Toni Collette - About a Boy * Tovah Feldshuh - Kissing Jessica Stein Lainie Kazan - My Big Fat Greek Wedding Emily Mortimer - Lovely & Amazing Bebe Neuwirth - Tadpole Meryl Streep - Adaptation Best Supporting Actor - Comedy or Musical * Michael Constantine - My Big Fat Greek Wedding Chris Cooper - Adaptation Jake Gyllenhaal - The Good Girl Philip Seymour Hoffman - Punch Drunk Love Nicky Katt - Full Frontal John C. Reilly - The Good Girl Best Foreign Film All or Nothing - UK Bloody Sunday - Ireland/UK Everyone Loves Alice - Sweden Monsoon Wedding - India Rain - New Zealand Sex and Lucia - France/Spain * Talk to Her - Spain Best Motion Picture - Animated or Mixed Media Ice Age Lilo & Stitch Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron * Spirited Away The Wild Thornberry's Movie Best Documentary Biggie and Tupac Bowling for Columbine The Cockettes Dogtown and Z-Boys * The Kid Stays in the Picture Best Director Pedro Almodovar - Talk to Her Stephen Daldry - The Hours * Todd Haynes - Far from Heaven Peter Jackson - The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Phillip Noyce - The Quiet American Denzel Washington - Antwone Fisher Best Original Screenplay All or Nothing - Mike Leigh Far from Heaven - Todd Haynes The Good Girl - Mike White Igby Goes Down - Burr Steers Lovely & Amazing - Nicole Holofcener * Talk to Her - Pedro Almodovar Best Adapted Screenplay * Adaptation - Charlie Kaufman, Donald Kaufman Chicago - Bill Condon Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - Frances Walsh, Philippa Boyens, Stephen Sindair, Peter Jackson My Big Fat Greek Wedding - Nia Vardalos The Pianist - Ronald Harwood Best Original Score About a Boy - Badly Drawn Boy (Damon Gough) * Frida - Elliot Goldenthal Roger Dodger - Craig Wedren 25th Hour - Dane A. Davis 24 Hour Party People - Liz Gallacher Best Original Song "Die Another Day" - Die Another Day "8 Mile" - 8 Mile "Girl on the Roof" - Van Wilder "Love Is a Crime" - Chicago * "Something to Talk About" - About a Boy "Work It Out" - Austin Powers: Goldmember Best Cinematography Far from Heaven - Edward Lachman Gangs of New York - Michael Ballhaus Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - Andrew Lesnie Minority Report - Janusz Kaminski * Road to Perdition - Conrad Hall Best Visual Effects Gangs of New York - Bruce Steinheimer, Michael Owens, Edward Hirsh, Jon Alexander * Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - Jim Rygiel Minority Report - Scott Farrar Road to Perdition - Michael J. McAlister Spider-Man - John Dykstra Best Film Editing Adaptation - Eric Zumbrunnen * Gangs of New York - Thelma Schoonmaker Insomnia - Dody Dorn Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - D. Michael Horton One Hour Photo - Jeffrey Ford Best Sound Gangs of New York - Philip Stockton Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - Ethan Van der Ryn Minority Report - Richard Hymns, Gary Rydstrom Signs - Richard King * Solaris - Larry Blake Best Art Direction Catch Me If You Can - Sarah Knowles CQ - Luc Chalon, Oshin Yeghiazariantz Frida - Felipe Fernandez, Hannia Robledo * Gangs of New York - Alessandro Alberti Road to Perdition - Richard L. Johnson, Dennis Gassner Best Costume Design Austin Powers: Goldmember - Deena Appel * Frida - Julie Weiss Gangs of New York - Sandy Powell Road to Perdition - Albert Wolsky Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones - Trisha Biggar Outstanding New Talent Derek Luke - Antwone Fisher Outstanding Motion Picture Ensemble The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Mary Pickford Award Robert Evans Nikola Tesla Award George Lucas

(Karen)Wrong Sophia, I'm afraid. ;-) Someone named Sophia Myles. Here's the news item, but I'm afraid I've never heard of the 'Thunderbirds': Wrong name used in news report I heard, obviously! BTW, Thunderbirds was a puppet TV series, albeit with fairly big production values, shown in the UK in the Sixties, which had cult status among children (and some adults).

Thanks Murph...lots o surprises there. "Big Fat Greek Wedding" also won The People's Award last night. Anbody see it? Tom Hanks off on the sidelines proudly taking snapshots of wife Rita as she accepted the award as the producer.

(Evelyn)Tom Hanks off on the sidelines proudly taking snapshots of wife Rita as she accepted the award as the producer I thought that was sweet; he let Rita have her moment in the sun. He did the same thing on the red carpet interview, walked out of camera range and let her do the interview. Of course, maybe he was just trying to get away from Joan.;-) Opreah Winfrey has a show on The Hours today, with Streep, Kidman, and Moore as guests. Should be good. As I won't be home in time to see it, maybe someone could fill me in. Thanks.

2002 7th Golden Satellite Awards What the heck are these?! A few odd winning choices I must say...nothwithstanding some odd noms as well. Tom Hanks was adorable last night and thought she looked great as always. Only saw him with Joan, though. Couldn't get through the show.

What the heck are these?! Aren't these from the *real* Hollywood Foreign Press? As I recall, the ones who give the GGs represent only a small number of foreign journalists. This group split away (but didn't get Dick Clark's backing!) or some such thing.

Karen says: Aren't these from the *real* Hollywood Foreign Press? As I recall, the ones who give the GGs represent only a small number of foreign journalists. This group split away (but didn't get Dick Clark's backing!) or some such thing I didn't know that! If you like Jim Broadbent as much as I do, here is a good interview with him in today's Guardian. http://film.guardian.co.uk/interview/interviewpages/0,6737,873784,00.html

(Mari) Opreah Winfrey has a show on The Hours today, with Streep, Kidman, and Moore as guests. Should be good. As I won't be home in time to see it, maybe someone could fill me in. Thanks. Lucky me, living in Oprahville. I'll tune into the rebroadcast later tonight.

Oprah show was excellent.A tea party at The Bel Air Hotel In Hollywood. V. conversational and friendly. All three are not only excellent actresses, but poised, intelligent women. Those attributes don't always exist in some of these these dolls that appear on the late show. I loved Meryl Streep's sense of humor...so deprecating. For those who get the Oxygen Channel, I hear there was also an "After The Oprah Show" a 30 minute segment that was casual. And some v. nice comments were made about Stephen Dillane "being the unsung hero ".

(Evelyn) Thanks Murph...lots o surprises there. "Big Fat Greek Wedding" also won The People's Award last night. Anbody see it? Tom Hanks off on the sidelines proudly taking snapshots of wife Rita as she accepted the award as the producer. I got to see this live last night because a friend managed to score a couple of tickets. It was a pretty dreadful show, but a good night for celeb watching. Of course most of our star gazing was of the tops of their heads since we peons were relegated to the balcony, but we were lucky to be in the first row of the balcony. Tom Hanks definitely wins the "good sport" award. I think they must tell the nominees in advance if they won, because for the most part only the winners bothered to show up. We pretty much knew before the show started who won in the major categories just by who we could see sitting in the front few rows. Tom Hanks was nominated for favorite male movie performer but Mel Gibson won, so the only reason Tom was there was to support Rita and Greek wedding. At least the camera man had the good graces not to show his face when they announced Mel Gibson's name ;-).

(Evelyn) And some v. nice comments were made about Stephen Dillane "being the unsung hero ". Huh? Did I miss this. They hardly discussed the film at all, but I know far more about what junk foods they all like then before. Hey Janny!! Good to see you checking in (hmmm, I owe you an email). So you attended an awards show. How fun. Were Joan and Melissa there? ;-) Yes, I do believe the winners know this one in advance. Maybe they get a phone call by the Gallup org, which has never called me to get my vote. Really idiotic award most years, as the 'favorite' may not have even been in a film.

(Jana) I think they must tell the nominees in advance if they won, because for the most part only the winners bothered to show up. We pretty much knew before the show started who won in the major categories just by who we could see sitting in the front few rows. I agree with you. I thought they knew in advance from previous shows too. Agree show was horrible. Thanks for award info Murph. Glad to see MC tied with DDL. Good choices.

Here we go, the beginning of the guild nominations, which will ultimately translate into Oscar noms. For Art Direction: Period or Fantasy Films: "Chicago," John Myhre; "Gangs of New York," Dante Ferretti; "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers," Grant Major; "Minority Report," Alex McDowell; "Road to Perdition," Dennis Gassner Contemporary Films: "The Bourne Identity," Dan Weil; "Catch Me If You Can," Jeannine Oppewall; "The Hours," Maria Djurkovic; "One Hour Photo," Tom Foden; "Panic Room," Arthur Max

The NY Times today: Love in the Afternoon By JOYCE WADLER The subtext of the New York Film Critics Circle Awards, it appears to us, is that the awards are more discerning, more intellectually rigorous than those out-of-town awards. So we had to admire the fearless way that ANNA POCH�, the girlfriend of DENNIS QUAID, sang out her credits to the press gantlet at the awards dinner on Sunday night at Noche. "Snowboarder, wakeboarder," said Ms. Poch�, blond, young and gorgeous in a deep-cut Prada gown. "And I assist Dennis." During cocktails, she and Mr. Quaid, who was named best supporting actor for "Far From Heaven," stood back to back, leaning into one another. Their hands were intertwined. Mr. Quaid wore Prada, too. They had flown in from Montreal, where Mr. Quaid is making a film. (Ms. Poch� brought her cat.) Sunday, they went to Prada, where they were outfitted down to their shoes. Ms. Poch� says she will keep her outfit. Mr. Quaid said he would probably give back his suit. It was an impressive crowd: Presenters included MARTIN SCORSESE, RICHARD GERE, WILLEM DAFOE, the New Yorker writer SUSAN ORLEAN and SALMA HAYEK. Award winners included DANIEL DAY-LEWIS, best actor for "Gangs of New York," and DIANE LANE, best actress for "Unfaithful." JULIANNE MOORE presented the award for best director and picture to TODD HAYNES, for "Far From Heaven." Among the crowd, HILARY SWANK and GEORGE LUCAS. Mr. Lucas was seated at a table with HARVEY WEINSTEIN and Mr. Scorsese and Mr. Day-Lewis, but as the others arrived late (Mr. Scorsese and Mr. Day-Lewis were flying in from Rome), Mr. Lucas for a time sat alone. Also attending was CHARLIE KAUFMAN, who won best screenplay for "Adaptation," the story of an anxious, insecure screenwriter by the name of Charlie Kaufman. Mr. Kaufman, having told the truth of how writers really spend their afternoons (obsessing, loathing themselves, masturbating) is the reporter's hero, but Mr. Kaufman � slight, curly haired, 44, but looks younger � is so shy as to recall Woody Allen. Arriving with his parents and sister, he dodged the reporters and stood with his back against an iron railing, clutching it so intensely one waited for it to bend. No interviews that night, the publicist said. Approached later in the evening one on one, which one sensed would put him at a tremendous disadvantage, Mr. Kaufman talked. He had indeed struggled after being hired to adapt Ms. Orlean's book, "The Orchid Thief," he said, and would have given back the money had he not already spent it. Yes, "Being John Malkovich," which he wrote, was a big hit, but at the time he was working on "Adaptation," it had not yet been released. Was Mr. Kaufman as anxious as he was in the movie? "More." Those self-involved afternoon activities that are the bane of the self-employed? A friend has a name for it, Mr. Kaufman said: "Procrasturbation."

"Procrasturbation." LOL! Thanks, Mary. Mr. Kaufman, having told the truth of how writers really spend their afternoons (obsessing, loathing themselves, masturbating) is the reporter's hero, but Mr. Kaufman � slight, curly haired, 44, but looks younger � is so shy as to recall Woody Allen. See, Moon. It doesn't matter how successful one has been.

Karen: "...the beginning of the guild nominations." Karen: Which are these? I get confused.

(Evelyn) they ain't gonna credit AD with his most famous screenplay that was presented on A&E.LOL. Didn't PBS get approached first to put up some bucks for P&P, but they decided to pass? (Evelyn) Next week Top Actors: Vote Now so Anthony Sher doesn't win;-) Okay, help for the technically challenged: I tried to vote, but it says I have no default mail client, and to run Outlook Express and designate that as the default. I only have 'net access at work, and I don't have Express! Any ideas? (Moon) Will repeat self: Rent "Human Nature." I plugged the title into Netflix & came up with a film that has Patricia Arquette & Tim Robbins; is this the right one? No writer is mentioned in the blurb. As for the Art Direction nominations, I can't believe Harry P. & the CoS wasn't nominated in the fantasy category; better-looking film than the first, and SS got an Oscar nom, if I'm not mistaken.

Which are these? I get confused. All the trades that go into films: directors guild, screen actors guild, writers guild, cinematographers, editors, etc. They all do their own awards, which are all presented prior to the Oscars. In many cases, only people of a certain profession can vote in an Oscar category: art directors for the art direction Oscar; therefore, it pays to see what is not only nominated for the guild award but what wins. Very often is the same. I believe all Academy members vote in the big categories of Best Picture and Actors, but only directors vote for directors, etc.

Evelyn) And some v. nice comments were made about Stephen Dillane "being the unsung hero ". (Karen)Huh? Did I miss this. They hardly discussed the film at all,... That took place at the "After the Oprah Show" a 30 minute segment on the Oxygen Channel. I think that's an E. coast channel. At least it's not an offering on my Dish Network. Nice to hear from you Jana,ole buddie. Drop in more often. You think the 2003 show was bad?....you shudda seen it last year.

(Moon) Will repeat self: Rent "Human Nature." (moonstar), I plugged the title into Netflix & came up with a film that has Patricia Arquette & Tim Robbins; is this the right one? No writer is mentioned in the blurb. That's the one. It is brilliant!

In today's Miami Herald: Coming soon to a theater near you -- or maybe not Trailer teases not always kept in films BY DOUGLAS HANKS III In the trailer for Unfaithful, a private eye warns Richard Gere against looking too hard into his wife's dalliances. A grim Gere barks back: ``I want the truth!'' But when the movie opened five months later last May, Gere never got testy with the gumshoe. And the detective didn't offer to come up empty in the case. Director Adrian Lyne cut those bits of dialogue from the movie's final version. The excised conversation is part of a little-noticed phenomenon in Hollywood, where studios tease with footage that never actually comes to a theater near you. Trailers -- those brief previews movie theaters run before a show -- have moved into a starring role. Opening weekends now rule the film industry, where a crush of new competition and skyrocketing budgets have studios seeking huge box-office debuts before losing the public's attention to the next blockbuster. The hunt for instant audiences has pushed studios into launching promotional campaigns earlier and earlier -- and often months before a film's final edit. One result, some industry experts say, are trailers that don't match the final product. ''With big films, the anticipation is so high, you've got to get in there. Other studios are jockeying for position,'' said Skip Chaisson of Skip Film, who edited trailers for Mission: Impossible and Pearl Harbor. The longer lead times for trailers leave producers like Chaisson shaping rough edits or even raw footage into an estimate of the film they're hyping. Some guesses are better than others. In The Royal Tenenbaums trailer, Gwyneth Paltrow wins a Pulitzer Prize as a ninth-grader. She only garners a playwriting grant in the movie. To turn over a missing file, Ben Affleck tempts Samuel L. Jackson with $10,000 in the preview for Changing Lanes. The offer switched from cash to a new car by the time the movie opened. When the leader of the Scooby-Doo gang rattled off hip-hop jive in the trailer, audiences knew the cartoon dog had joined the MTV era. But moviegoers who missed the teaser didn't hear Fred tell a bewildered Shaggy: ``You had best get your smack on, smack off. You know what I mean?'' OBSCURE TOPIC Experts in the movie industry say there have always been some differences between trailers and the movies they promote. But the experts are divided on whether Hollywood's new marketing timetable is generating more of the extra scenes. Trailer discrepancies are such an obscure topic that no one seems to track them -- even on the Internet, the ultimate catalog of cinematic minutiae. But there is no doubt that trailers are more important than ever in Hollywood. A boom in movie production has meant more competition for theater screens, just as blockbuster budgets are crossing the $140 million threshold. The result: Studios need to make massive profits rapidly before being eclipsed by the next big release. ''Nowadays the opening weekend is life and death,'' said Jeanine Basinger, who heads the film studies department at Wesleyan University in Connecticut. ``A lot rides now on the advertising campaign. If [a movie] doesn't do well, it's moved out.'' HYPE MACHINE Recent years saw Hollywood scrap its staggered distribution strategy for blitzkrieg debuts. Big movies used to open on 400 screens and then expand on word-of-mouth buzz; now they launch in 4,000 theaters. Studios start the hype machine early: Audiences that once got sneak peeks of movies a month ahead of time are seeing snippets of footage six months or even a year in advance. ''In today's media-saturated society, there's a very good argument for priming the pump way ahead of time'' with trailers, said film critic Leonard Maltin, who hosts the Hot Ticket television show. Trailers are now so crucial to marketing a film that movie theaters complain studios show them too often and too early. Theater owners balked in the fall of 2001 when Warner Brothers insisted on a lengthy trailer package with Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, which included a preview for the following summer's Scooby-Doo. ''There's a lot of pressure to play more trailers than we have space for,'' said John Fithian, president of the National Association of Theatre Owners. Despite the grumbling, trailers are more popular and visible than ever. Studios include trailers in DVD releases, websites are devoted to the genre, and newspaper critics review the latest previews from Hollywood. The industry will gather March 13 in Los Angeles for the fourth annual Golden Trailer Awards. Studios usually farm out trailers to freelance producers, who have between 30 seconds and 4 � minutes to telegraph a movie's premise. That might seem like the most discriminating edit possible, but footage that cuts to the chase in a trailer can lack the subtlety a director seeks for a two-hour feature. ''It's not that we want to change what the actors are saying,'' said Barbara Glazer, a partner at The Ant Farm, which produced trailers for Maid in Manhattan and Catch Me If You Can. ``But sometimes we have to say it in a more succinct way.'' Roland Mesa, whose Cimarron Group made trailers for Die Another Day and Gangs of New York, said early deadlines and last-minute edits resulted in extra trailer footage long before Hollywood started moving up its promotional campaigns. ''There's inevitably going to be things cut out of a movie to make it shorter, or that didn't play well to an audience,'' said Mesa, a former marketing executive at 20th Century Fox. ``It's always been like this.'' Of course, sometimes the best thing a trailer can do is part ways from its movie. Basinger, the film professor, noted that an entertaining sneak-peek often masks a dog of a film. ''In many cases,'' she said, ``I can say I would have been happy just to see the trailer and not the movie.''

Do you think we will still get black leather, air-guitar playing CF in WAGW? ;-)

LOL Oh yes, I most certainly hope so.

(Moon) Do you think we will still get black leather, air-guitar playing CF in WAGW? ;-) My youngest and I went to HP again yesterday and the trailer for WAGW was still running and CF is still dancing...so I'm keeping my hopes up! ;-)

(Karen) Hey Janny!! Good to see you checking in (hmmm, I owe you an email). So you attended an awards show. How fun. Were Joan and Melissa there? ;-) Yes, I do believe the winners know this one in advance. Maybe they get a phone call by the Gallup org, which has never called me to get my vote. Really idiotic award most years, as the 'favorite' may not have even been in a film. Evelyn) Nice to hear from you Jana,ole buddie. Drop in more often. You think the 2003 show was bad?....you shudda seen it last year. Hi KK and Evie, nice to see you too! I'll try and stop by more often. For the People's Choice, we had to queue up in the back and go into a side door so we didn't get to see the red carpet at all. Darn, I was really hoping to catch a glimpse of Joan ;-). This was the first time I'd ever seen this particular award show and if last year's was even worse I shudder to think what it must have been like. Sheesh, we got Tony Danza doing rap and playing the trumpet :-0.

Hi, Jana! Any chance of you making it to the GG? (Ada), My youngest and I went to HP again yesterday and the trailer for WAGW was still running and CF is still dancing...so I'm keeping my hopes up! ;-) I was referring to this part of the article: The hunt for instant audiences has pushed studios into launching promotional campaigns earlier and earlier -- and often months before a film's final edit. One result, some industry experts say, are trailers that don't match the final product.

(Moon) I was referring to this part of the article Moon, I got what you were saying....I just misread the article and thought it said that they changed the trailers too often and too fast. My comment meant to say that it's been 2 months and they still had that trailer still going, at least. Goes to show that speed reading couse I took was not a good thing! ;-)

Jana, it seems like this award show get worse every year. I stopped watching after about 10 minutes.

For those who are interested in the West End Drama awards: Olivier Awards Nominations were announced today: *BEST ACTRESS....... Anita Dobson for FROZEN at the Cottesloe Clare Higgins for VINCENT IN BRIXTON at the Cottesloe and Wyndham's Gwyneth Paltrow for PROOF at the Donmar Warehouse [I don't wanna hear that she's just a pretty face] Emily Watson for UNCLE VANYA at the Donmar Warehouse *BEST ACTOR........ Michael Gambon for A NUMBER at the Jerwood Theatre Downstairs at the Royal Court Simon Russell Beale for UNCLE VANYA at the Donmar Warehouse Mark Rylance for TWELFTH NIGHT at Shakespeare's Globe David Tennant for LOBBY HERO at the Donmar Warehouse and New Ambassadors *BEST PERFORMANCE IN A SUPPORTING ROLE ........ Essie Davis for A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE at the Lyttelton Jessica Stevenson for THE NIGHT HERON at the Jerwood Theatre Downstairs at the Royal Court [For you Mark Strong fans!] Mark Strong for TWELFTH NIGHT at the Donmar Warehouse Sian Thomas for UP FOR GRABS at Wyndham's *BEST DIRECTOR ..... Matthew Bourne for PLAY WITHOUT WORDS at the Lyttelton Richard Eyre for VINCENT IN BRIXTON at the Cottesloe Edward Hall for ROSE RAGE at the Haymarket Sam Mendes for TWELFTH NIGHT and UNCLE VANYA in repertory at the Donmar Warehouse Big coup for the Donmar this year. Sam's swan song.

(Evelyn)Gwyneth Paltrow for PROOF at the Donmar Warehouse [I don't wanna hear that she's just a pretty face] You won't hear it from me ;-). I have never seen her on stage, but I like her very much in the movies, I have seen (SIL and Sliding doors just to mention a few).

In the "yes, there is a god" category, from THR: ;-) It's splitsville for HBO's 'Married' after two years Jan. 16, 2003 Divorce is on "The Mind of the Married Man." HBO has decided not to renew Mike Binder's comedy series for a third season. "It was a very hard decision for us, but it was one that we had to make," HBO executive vp original programming Carolyn Strauss said. "We've picked up a bunch of new shows, and it basically came down to a matter of allocation of resources." HBO has recently given the green light to three one-hour series: "Deadwood," "Marriage" and "Carnivale." "Deadwood" and "Carnivale" are period pieces, which generally are very expensive to produce. "Mind," a look at the challenges of modern-day marriage from a male perspective, never reached the commercial and critical acclaim [Ed note: Duh, wonder why?] of HBO's "Sex and the City" or the cult following and critical praise of the cable channel's "Curb Your Enthusiasm." In its second season this fall, "Mind" ran as a companion to "Curb," which has been picked up for a fourth season (HR 11/14).

On the other hand, now it's back to making feature films... :-(

Some nice, behind-the-scenes info: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hollywoodreporter/columnists/grove/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1796311 I can't believe that this is still in such a limited state of release: *pathetic* Last weekend, Paramount began expanding its release of "Hours," adding 34 more playdates. That put the film in 45 theaters where it grossed a very encouraging $907,621, averaging $20,169 per theater. Paramount is widening its run to about 400 theaters this Friday and plans to follow that with additional waves of expansion.

Fascinating article Karen..timely,since it's coming here tomorrow. "Given Daldry's background in theater, it's not surprising that he likes to rehearse with his actors, all of whom have spent a lot of time working on the stage." Interesting that all of lead stars and supporting are from the stage. But pox on Daldry for not mentioning SD. Anybody see Renee on Charlie Rose the other night?

At the Chicago roundtable? Good show. Did anyone catch Adrien Brody on Charlie Rose last night? What a sincere and thoughtful young man. Very serious about the work, but without one iota of actorly/luvvie b.s. about him. I was very impressed.

Oh shoot, didn't see it, although it might be on the Indiana station's replay now. I liked Brody in that Spike Lee film a couple of years ago (Summer of Sam, which was v.g.) and he was in Bread & Roses, which most of you probably wouldn't have seen. He's very versatile.

Totally Odds and Ends....I am posting this here because I saw a reference to "Cheapside" there and immediately heard Miss Bingley's voice! I have been seeing a lot about Samuel Pepys these days, what with the well reviewed new biography by Claire Tomalin, and today's note in the the NY Times about a London gentleman who has put the diary on line as a weblog: "Phil Gyford, a Web developer in London, set up the site because he had always wanted to read the diary but found it "daunting and uninviting" in its long form. "I haven't read much further ahead than what's on the site," he said by e-mail. "I'm enjoying reading it along with everyone else." Mr. Gyford also had the inspired idea of allowing site visitors to annotate the entries. The annotations can be personal comments or explanations proffered for obscure terms and historical references. The result is like reading a book along with a group of clued-in friends." http://www.pepysdiary.com/

In the NY Post Sunday. "Ted and Sylvia" filming in NZ. Looking forward to this one!

HBO has decided not to renew Mike Binder's comedy series The Munchkins are beltin' it out: Ding dong, the kvetch is dead! Which old kvetch, the kvetchy kvetch . . .;-) Murph, just put a dagger through my heart.:-(

Karen: Did you know the fourth Federica Potter book was out???? Since December??? Called "The Whistling Woman"???? I just heard about it!

sorry, Frederica!

Wot?!!!!!!!!!!! How did this get past us? But the horrible thing is it's been so long since I read any of the books, I'd have to reread them to know what was going on, and the prospect of rereading Babel Tower is a bit numbing. ;-) *smacking lips though to find out what is in store for Alexander* Think I'll stop by B&N tomorrow, when I go to see Chicago.

Oh, the best is my horoscope for today!!! :) How freakin' bizarre (on top of the news of the HP V finally being released!) (please don't make me do Babel Tower again!!!! ;)) Remember how fried I was after reading that????? my horoscope! Laura's Daily Forecast Daily Astrology Forecast - January 16, 2003 Aries Horoscope: A favorite female author might have recently released a new book. This has you inspired. You're likely to be feeling especially alert mentally, and perhaps particularly creative, Laura. If you've been thinking about trying your hand at an artistic project, this is the time to do it. Communication with those closest to you should go very well, as you're feeling especially warm and open. Romance is enhanced by stimulating conversation about matters of interest to both of you.

(Mari)HBO has decided not to renew Mike Binder's comedy series Mari, didn't I tell you that frog's tongue was too large? Sheesh, I think we over did it with the double, double toil and trouble thing.

Not to worry, Linda, we'll blame it on Pam. Or should I say, we'll give Pam the credit.;-)

Confessions of a Dangerous(ly) Hormonal Mind Don't throw tomatoes (well, you can throw them, but only if you throw the garlic, basil, and bread too..mmm..panzanella..but I digress..)but last night I happened to see Joe Millionaire. Yes, yes, I know, it is base, vulgar, and ludicrously inane...but well, he (JM) was tall, dark, curly haired and with dimples and had a nice deep voice, mind you I cringed though when he tried to string a sentence together...Anyway to get the taste out of my mind after I popped FP in the VCR and remembered what REAL hormonal euphoria is!! (Mari)HBO has decided not to renew Mike Binder's comedy series Well his "girlfriend" MH is on Connie Chung tonight...(I am a wealth of useless information today!)

Finally saw About a Boy last night on DVD, and was surprised at how much I enjoyed it, even thought I kept thinking about CF in that role the entire time. I thought it was interesting that this film was full of voice overs, as was High Fidelity & Fever Pitch. Apparently, writers can't resist NH's musings (including NH in FP). I assume someone besides myself saw the Arsenal pennant hanging in Ali's bedroom window ;) I got some strange looks from my dh & friends when I started chuckling at the sight of it :) (LindaK) Mari, didn't I tell you that frog's tongue was too large? Sheesh, I think we over did it with the double, double toil and trouble thing. I think the results are very satisfying, myself :)

Awards News -- the Broadcast Film Critics Association Awards are to be held this evening. It will be broadcast on E! TV Tomorrow (Saturday) night. I See "Martin & Lewis" is nominated. Maybe Jeremy will be there. http://www.bfca.org/criticschoiceawards.asp

(moonstar) I assume someone besides myself saw the Arsenal pennant hanging in Ali's bedroom window ;) I saw AAB in the theater, but watched it again Wednesday night. I did notice the Arsenal pennant! Made a remark about it and the DH was asking what I was babbling about....Noticed they lived in Islington as well. And, is the grocery store that Will goes to the one where ODB has been spotted??? I couldn't read the signage and have no idea how large Islington actually is?!

(Murph)the Broadcast Film Critics Association Awards are to be held this evening. It will be broadcast on E! TV Tomorrow (Saturday) night. Sheech....They must be taking tips from BAFTA...you'd think they could televise it live. who wants to see an old show? Thanks Murph.I'll look for JN. With GG on Sunday night, maybe Stephen Dillane will be there. 'Strong-Arm Harvey' is in there somewhere. Goodie...awards-time is here:-)))

(moonstar) I thought it was interesting that this film was full of voice overs, as was High Fidelity HF used an entirely different technique. John Cusack's character spoke directly to the audience. (Tress) Noticed they lived in Islington as well. Nick Hornby's been living in North London (Islington) for far longer than Colin. (Evelyn) With GG on Sunday night, maybe Stephen Dillane will be there. Oooooh! Stop me!! The tears are rolling down my cheeks. He's not nominated; he won't be there. If The Hours gets nominated for the SAG's equivalent of Best Film, which is Best Ensemble, then I'd wonder if he would show. But still doubt it. ;-)

New Schedule Turns AFI Fest Into a Quick Hit Fri Jan 17, 3:44 AM ET By Timothy M. Gray and Jill Feiwell HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - The American Film Institute (news - web sites) on Thursday welcomed a stellar turnout for an "AFI Awards 2002" luncheon that was energetic, fast and fun. The group last month named 10 "significant" TV shows and 10 films from last year that deserved recognition; the lunch at the Four Seasons Hotel was to salute the creatives behind those works. The absence of TV cameras and the lack of competition -- as well as acceptance speeches -- gave a relaxed and upbeat mood to the two-hour event. Food was pretty much an afterthought as 200 honorees and 30 guests (mostly AFI trustees) began with an hour of elbow-rubbing and table-hopping, where lunchgoers could see New Line boss Bob Shaye and Miramax's Harvey Weinstein looking gregarious, Hugh Grant (news) and Spike Jonze (news) looking shy, Edie Falco (news) chatting with Renee Zellweger (news), and Nicole Kidman (news) in huddles with Sydney Pollack (news). Other guests included Jon Avnet, Stephen Daldry, Phillip Noyce, Martin Scorsese (news), Julie Taymor (news), Denzel Washington (news) and Chris & Paul Weitz, Robert Greenblatt & David Janollari; and actors Michael Caine (news), Brendan Fraser (news), Salma Hayek (news), Nicole Kidman, William H. Macy (news) and Nia Vardalos. The decision for an informal, non-televised event was a brilliant stroke after last year's AFI awards saw a low star turnout, which many attributed to the fact that the event was held Jan. 5, when many industryites were still on vacation. The works were saluted in a 45-minute program. TV honorees included "The Believer," "Boomtown," "Door to Door," "Everybody Loves Raymond (news - Y! TV)," "The Gathering Storm," "Gilmore Girls (news - Y! TV)," "The Simpsons (news - Y! TV)," "Six Feet Under," "The Sopranos (news - Y! TV)" and "The West Wing (news - web sites)." The 10 films saluted were "About a Boy," "About Schmidt," "Adaptation," "Antwone Fisher," "Chicago," "Frida," "Gangs of New York," "The Hours," "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" and "The Quiet American." At the wrap of the event, honorees were given framed certificates for their contributions, and everyone was handed an Award Season Survival Kit, which included Rolaids and Hollywood Stress Mints.

FYI - There's another picture of GP and DC for Ted and Sylvia in this week's Newsweek magazine. My scanner isn't set up yet, or else I'd send it over. The pic is of them dancing, and the caption says: A Meeting Of Beautiful Minds - Hollywood has wanted to make a Sylvia Plath movie for years. Poetry, passion, suicide - what's not to like? Gwyneth Paltrow is now in New Zealand filming the story of Plath and British poet Ted Hughes (Daniel Craig). Theirs was a stormy marriage, but this movie is said to be "a love story, essentially." Is Miramax behind this one?

Interesting little article about British Film Industry with a mention of Love Actually.. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,874939,00.html

"Hugh Grant Discusses His Recent 'Two Weeks' and Next 'Bridget Jones'" It's really just a line or so but also mentions Richard Curtis, LA and AAB... http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/story/0,1259,---14883,00.html

(Tress) saw AAB in the theater, but watched it again Wednesday night. I did notice the Arsenal pennant! Made a remark about it and the DH was asking what I was babbling about....Noticed they lived in Islington as well. OMG, last one..sorry..Islington making it's own press, "Borough remains popular with filmmakers" http://www.islingtonexpress.co.uk/archived/2003/0103/news/asp/p9col1.asp

The BBC-backed Ted and Sylvia, starring Gwyneth Paltrow as doomed poet Sylvia Plath, was filmed in Islington Nothing like having a film he wanted to do (or not) done in his front yard.

(Evelyn) With GG on Sunday night, maybe Stephen Dillane will be there. (Karen)Oooooh! Stop me!! The tears are rolling down my cheeks. He's not nominated; he won't be there *wiping tears from cheek*There, there now.....settle down....;-) I know he's not nominated but at times supporting actors appear to support the film...sitting at the producer's table. Saw The Pianist today.....DDL is toast.

I gladly take credit for the excessive hex in pot to eliminate MB from TV. Now am making potion to tackle production company. Did anyone catch the very entertaining and fun-filled Disco Ball on ABC last night. Whoppi Goldberg's "It's Raining Men" was outrageous. Good fun.

(Evelyn), Saw The Pianist today.....DDL is toast. I agree! Saw the Hours. Meryl Streep was my favourite. She's had a great comeback year. Nicole Kidman and J Moore were vg too, but there was something about Meryl's performance...

If anyone's going to London in the next few weeks, I just saw Judi Dench and Maggie Smith this afternoon in The Breath of Life and it was GREAT. The reviews are not sparkling, but I didn't really care, it was just too cool to see the Dames! And I did like the story. You can pretty much only get returns though, even though they extended the run. Had lunch on Upper St. with Tanja (the lurker) from Germany again! Topping off a great week, I am off to Barbados for a week tomorrow...

(EmmaB) ....just saw Judi Dench and Maggie Smith; ...Had lunch on Upper St. with Tanja; ...off to Barbados; ...a great week Now there's an understatement!

Broadcast Film Critics Awards: Winners for 2002 Best Picture: Chicago Best Actor: Daniel Day Lewis - Gangs of New York Jack Nicholson - About Schmidt TIE Best Actress: Julianne Moore - Far From Heaven Best Supporting Actor: Chris Cooper - Adaptation Best Supporting Actress: Catherine Zeta-Jones - Chicago Best Acting Ensemble: Chicago Best Director: Steven Spielberg - Catch Me If You Can, Minority Report Best Writer: Charlie Kaufman - Adaptation, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind Best Digital Acting Performance: Gollum - The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Best Young Actor/Actress: Kieran Culkin - Igby Goes Down Best Animated Feature: Spirited Away Best Family Film (live action): Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets Best Picture Made for Television: Door To Door Best Documentary: Bowling for Columbine Best Foreign Language Film: Y Tu Mama Tambien Best Song: "Lose Yourself", Eminem - 8 Mile Best Composer: John Williams - Catch Me If You Can, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, Minority Report http://www.bfca.org/criticschoiceawards.asp

Imagine ignoring Adreien Brody's performance....unbelievable. I saw that show re-run last night.CZJ obviously thrilled with her award. JN, ho-hum about it. Made a spectacle of himself bringing Robin Williams up to the mike who didn't win.DDL brought dignity to the evening...looked like he wished he wasn't up on that stage with the other two clowns.

Seems like a reasonable list, well, except for the JN part or anything to do with that film. Sorry, but I'll never be able to get my head around About Schmidt getting such accolades. It was a same old, same old film. What, are they trying to get a message across by rewarding Jack for finally playing someone his own age? ;-) Like the fact that CZ-J is in the "supporting" category here, instead of Best Actress in a Musical or Comedy as she is for the GGs tonight. That's where she belongs. RZ is the female lead in that movie, I can say without qualifications, as I've finally seen it! Felt it was absolutely necessary before the GGs, in order to make informed guesses. ;-) Anyway, it was entertaining and I'm still trying to decide if it will be rewarded at the Oscars. Naturally, it will win in its Musical/Comedy category tonight, but I wouldn't want it to win for Best Picture at the Oscars because it just *wasn't* that great. I have problems with any musical, which features dancing, and doesn't show the dancers' feet. Fred Astaire is turning over in his grave. :-( Otherwise, it was very good and I thought Richard Gere did a good job, and RZ really pulled her (cough) weight. ;-)

Me thinks Chicago is gonna win the Oscar. Catch the big smile on ole' Harve??He's banking on "Chicago" to make up the $$ he's losing on "Gangs of NY."

I just got back from seeing The Hours, and thought it was excellent. The three ladies are extraordinary and what a pleasure it is to see a serious movie about women. I particularly was drawn to Julianne Moore's story line and her work in this--subtle and heartbreaking. (Evelyn)Me thinks Chicago is gonna win the Oscar. Me too. It's quality *and* it's feel-good *and* it's making money at the box office. Oscar can't resist.:-) Any predictions for the GGs tonight? I predict DDL will win out over Brody. The GGs will not honor a Holocaust drama, IMO. The Oscars will be another story.

EmmaB, wow! Did you have one fantastic week! Think about us shivering in the cold & the snow, while you are in Barbados, and don't get too sunburned! :) (Karen) Sorry, but I'll never be able to get my head around About Schmidt getting such accolades. It was a same old, same old film. I completely agree. My hubby and I saw (suffered through) About Schmidt yesterday, and was completely disappointed. A very predictable story, not very sympathetic characters (Kathy Bates cracked me up, though), and Jack was, well, Jack. Why the critics are slobbering all over this movie is beyond me. Maybe we need to get to work on a hex to prevent JN from winning an Oscar, LOL, although it's probably too late! It seemed to work on MB :)

LOL!! Did anyone see Joan Rivers pull up HG's dress in the front? And HG's only plug was for The Guru on Jan 31. Guess it's a tad early for a sound bite/PR for HS.

You know I meant Heather Graham, right? ;-)

(Dorine)You know I meant Heather Graham, right? ;-) Hopefully the other HG wouldn't wear a dress.

Hey, he seems to try to grab the spotlight when others are around. This would certainly be a new tactic. ;-) After that getup from Lara Flynn Boyle last night, I wouldn't be surprised at too much. Maybe she wasn't getting enough attention from Jack.

Yeah, I saw Joan with Heather. It didn't look like she was spilling out of it. I mostly watch Joan with the sound muted, but did hear the painfully inane comments she made to Chris Weitz, co-director of About a Boy who was with Heather. Why does she even bother to try to say anything about a film she knows nothing about? With the exception of the two awards for About Schmidt, it went pretty much as I expected on the movie side, and I was thrilled that The Hours and Nicole Kidman won. Thought her speech was great, but that she missed an opportunity to praise her only co-star, Stephen, to single him out. Thought when Meryl Streep won at the beginning was a great moment, and was so glad that RZ won over CZ-J, who was in the wrong catgory IMO.

(Karen) I was thrilled that The Hours and Nicole Kidman won. I haven't even seen the movie (only read the book) and was so excited to see this! Loved Nicole's speech....hopefully Hollywood will listen and realize that complex female characters are a GOOD thing and continue to write decent parts for women! What was Lara Flynn Boyle thinking? She looked like a child's jewelry box ballerina. I told the DH they should have had LFB and Salma Hayek present together...so you could see a 'healthy specimen' standing beside...well, one that isn't! Glad to see that Sigourney Weaver finally learned to dress (she looked very nice last night). Very glad to see RZ win! And Richard Gere! It has been a long time for Meryl Streep and I am so happy for her this year...two films getting so much recognition. Thought her speech was very funny!

After that getup from Lara Flynn Boyle LOL! I was arguing on the phone with Moon that it "couldn't" be LFB, no way!! Did she wear that on a bet? Another hideous one: Sharon Stone, who was there with her mother. I don't know about you, but my mother wouldn't have let me leave the house looking like that. ;-) And could someone give Michael Douglas a better number from Clairol? He is no strawberry blonde. :-(

Did anyone catch info on RZ's dress? I'm betting it was vintage. Looked v. late '50s, although she didn't wear a fuller, flouncy slip.

Karen, she was wearing vintage Valentino..not sure how old, the report didn't say.

OK, this answers the question about RZ's dress... Real Tutu, Fake Nose Top Globe Fashion Mysteries LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Mystery swirled around the red carpet at the 2003 Golden Globe awards Sunday, where the night's gilded display by Hollywood's hottest talents raised more fashion questions than answers. Why did Lara Flynn Boyle appear in a tutu? Why did Richard Gere say it would take hours to explain why he was wearing a Tibetan bracelet? Why did Meryl Streep "smell like a camel?" And, oh yes, why would one of Hollywood's most beautiful and respected actresses, Nicole Kidman, have a clown nose stuffed in her shoe? The Golden Globes, celebrated as a dress rehearsal for February's Academy Awards and one of the most rollicking Hollywood parties of the year, have a history of producing odd fashion statements and striking admissions. Sunday night was no different. Boyle, who appeared onstage to present an award, caused the biggest stir of the night with her outfit: an outrageous pink tutu accented by ribbons wrapped around her calves. Samuel L. Jackson, known for pushing the high-fashion envelope himself, smilingly declined to be drawn into the tutu controversy. Jack Nicholson called it "startling." Renee Zellweger, who hadn't seen it, gushed over it nevertheless. "Did she wear a tutu? Good for her! Good for her!" Zellweger said. Of her own outfit, a vintage Valentino swept out of a closet in Rome and on to the red carpet, she said: "It's simple, it's elegant. It's not fussy. It's not trying and I like it." Streep, who was honored as best supporting actress for her role in "Adaptation," was complimented for her glittery neckless Giorgio Armani jacket, but cautioned that she had flown straight from Rome where she was shooting "Angels in America." "Don't get near me. I smell like a camel," Streep joked with reporters. Then there was the enigmatic bracelet worn by Richard Gere, who took best-actor honors for his role in "Chicago" as a hard-hearted defense lawyer. "It's a Tibetan thing," he told reporters backstage. "It would take hours to explain what it means." Kidman, who won best dramatic actress honors, for her turn in "The Hours" as Virginia Woolf credited a prosthetic nose for part of the film's magic. More puzzling, she removed a clown's nose that was tucked into her strapped heels. "Someone gave me a red nose to wear," she said, declining to don it in front of cameras. The decision to wear a fake nose as Woolf was worrying at first, but not because she cared about her own looks, she said. "At first in the make-up, I thought this could be totally ridiculous or it could help people get lost in the character and the film," she said." As for the night's best denial -- that award went to Zellweger who flatly denied a romantic involvement with George Clooney. "We have been friends for a very long time and we are not 'friends,"' she said, making giant invisible quote marks in the air. "He is a good friend and I am keeping him. He is a cute friend. He is a smart friend."

Why did Lara Flynn Boyle appear in a tutu? Easy. So that she'd be the one people would talk about the next day, the one that news services 'round the world would post pictures of. Which is what Joan Rivers told her to her face, and she was right. Mostly decent picks last night, though the show was uncharacteristically dull. Surprised no one has mentioned Bono's acceptance speech: "This is fucking great!" Obviously, the network didn't have the show on a 5 second delay.;-) Or Colin Farrell on the red carpet, talking about the prospect of meeting his fave TV stars--"Oh yeah, I watch all this shit back home!" Gee, do you think the Irish swear more than we do?;-)

Obviously, the network didn't have the show on a 5 second delay.;-) LOL! Didn't Farrell say he only knew he couldn't say the F word? ;-) But he is so utterly unimpressive when he starts talking. Sheesh! That boy is only after fame and fortune (mostly the latter) and wants the easiest way there. Boy! Does he project the image of a bum, rather be hoisting a few, I'd say.

What about Sharon Stone, who looked liked she had taken a page out of Cher�s stylebook, with that Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves number? She almost seemed Evita-like (or would that be Norma Desmond-like?) when she blew two-handed kisses to the fans on the risers outside the theatre before the show. And what was that weird little dance Sharon did as Richard Gere came toward her on the stage to accept his award? She is one weird chick living in her own private Idaho.

I can'think of a single pretty gown. Jennifer Connelly should have worn the gown she wore last year. This one was a loser. Goldie Hawn in her little bo-peep number. Did she pinch it from Kate's closet? Cate Blanchette in that dress that looked like an Atlas.I don't care how expensive it was. Fashion Police tonight on E! channel at 9 Central. Were those real diamonds on Renee's ankle strap shoes?Karen thought so....decadent. And talking about diamonds...CZJ's pendant.How many karats? Any guesses? Comes the revolution!! (I know, they are all borrowed)

PS: I watched the GG and the pre-GG shows with my 80 year old mother. She made the observation that it is time Dick Clark retire, as at the close of the NBC pre-GG show, when DC was walking alone on the red carpet toward the theater entrance, that he shuffled like an old man getting up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom. :-)

She made the observation that it is time Dick Clark retire...that he shuffled like an old man getting up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom. :-) LOL! I so agree. Or maybe he need to get his face tightened. It looks so fakey now.

(Evelyn) I can'think of a single pretty gown. I thought there were several very pretty gowns (but no great ones)...Diane Lane, Jennifer Garner and Marissa Tormei (in her vintage 70's gown) all looked very good, IMO. (Evelyn) Jennifer Connelly should have worn the gown she wore last year. This one was a loser. Totally agree! And what about that eye make-up? Less is more...or so I hear. Awful gowns? Besides LFB...Sharon Stone (someone said Gothic hooker and I tend agree. She was acting oddly as well...), Debra Messing (what was around her neck?) and Goldie Hawn (the Oktoberfest gown)...

Not so sure about pretty gown aspect, but as far as the total presentation... ...Goldie needs to take notes from Kate, I thought Kate looked fabulous. ...Annette Benning looked great also, I especially liked her hair. ...Sharon Stone own private Idaho...LOL that's for sure. Other thoughts, overall, it seemed like a huge Harvey W lovefest, the big lug! Gotta love him! And by the end of the evening, I'd had about enough of Celine in her ghost driven car singing to herself. And Richard Gere is a babe even with glasses that must have some huge prescription...those looked like some dense lenses. And was there an ending for the thing planned or was Halle just supposed to stand there and sort of say "That's all folks"? And I like Jeff Goldblum, but I'm thinking he'd been into the Moet pretty heavy...Calista trying to get him to say "Albert Finney" and then the sounds he kept making. I hoped Harrison would come back out and kick him off and take over. All right, that's enough randomness for now.

(Evelyn) I can'think of a single pretty gown. Really? I liked many more than I thought I would. Most simple and elegant, others a bit more colorful and involved. Jennifer Garner, too cute with her hubby, Marissa Tomei, anyone notice how she and Jennifer Anniston were practically twins? Same hair, virtually same dress. Like MT's more. RZ, thought she looked fantastic, too cute with speech. Halle Berry, I don't think she ever looks bad. The woman that plays Larry David's wife on Curb Your Enthusiam, Cheryl something I think. Loved the dress, hair makeup, everything. More colorful, but not loud. A few others. (Barb) Annette Benning looked great also, I especially liked her hair. She looked fabulous. Looked 10 years younger at least. (Karen) Yeah, I saw Joan with Heather. It didn't look like she was spilling out of it. I didn't think so either, no more or even less than others. But not a big fan of HGm and thought it was funny nonetheless. I mostly watch Joan with the sound muted, but did hear the painfully inane comments she made to Chris Weitz, co-director of About a Boy who was with Heather. Why does she even bother to try to say anything about a film she knows nothing about? That was awful. Joan seemed esp bad last night. Maybe it's the same, but the stars handled it quite well I thought. Thought it was funny when she tried to get MT (I think) to comment on LFB. Didn't Farrell say he only knew he couldn't say the F word? ;-) But he is so utterly unimpressive when he starts talking.Boy! Does he project the image of a bum, rather be hoisting a few, I'd say. LOL, think he said something to that effect in a magazine interview once. (Barb) And Richard Gere is a babe even with glasses that must have some huge prescription...those looked like some dense lenses. They don't look that bad up close. it seemed like a huge Harvey W lovefest, the big lug! Gotta love him! I hope waders were in those gift bags. Wonder how much he much he's pitchin' their way for all that love.

New interview with Minghella in The Observer: http://film.guardian.co.uk/interview/interviewpages/0,6737,878759,00.html GG Bits: Sigorney Wever looked great to me - classic and elegant. And she is 53 this year. Didn't know Tony Shalub is married to Brooke Adams. I flashed back to Days of Heaven when I saw her. She is 53 as well. Paul Bettany and Jennifer Connelly make a cute new married couple.

(Barb) And Richard Gere is a babe even with glasses that must have some huge prescription...those looked like some dense lenses. (Dorine) They don't look that bad up close. LOL Way to rub it in. Bet he doesn't smell like a camel either!

Had a stressful day! But here I am! it seemed like a huge Harvey W lovefest, the big lug! Gotta love him! I agree! Unless he spiked everybody's drink with a Harvey designer drug. ;-) What will he do come Oscar? Who will he root for? ;-) I want to go to the Miramax post Oscar party! I loved RZ's dress. But IMO, you can never go wrong with Valentino. Heather Graham's dres was also a very lovely Valentino. I liked Kate's dress too. And Debra Messing looked great in hers, nothing I would wear but I liked it on her. Edie Falco and Kim Cattrall also looked great, and I liked Cameron Diaz's mini too. I never like what Jennifer Aniston wears She was having a bad hair and everything night, apart from the GG. ;-) I absolutely love Jude Law. The most elegant in that 60's tux. Colin Farrel is a slob, I agree. Sharon Stone must have been stoned last night. She was jumping up and down all night. Put her next to Goldie and voil�! What here they thinking? Lara FB could have stuffed a few tissues in her tutu. The big fashion statement of the evening was the hair. So many different hairstyles, and some identical too. It started with Melissa Rivers's hair. (Evelyn), CZJ's pendant.How many karats? Any guesses? 20 to 30 depending on the depth. Beautiful, but I would have worn it with a thin black silk rope. I was disappointed that 'same ole Jack' got the GG over Adrian Brody from the Piano. That was a popularity contest. The Hours is a very European film, so it was not such a surprise winner, the Oscar will be another story.

I saw About Schmidt today and I liked both the film and Jack very much. Go figure!;-) Thought it was well written, sharply observed, funny, bittersweet, and honorable towards a demographic that gets short shrift on the big screen--the middle class, midwestern working stiff. If any films are made about those folks, it's usually with smug condescension, but this one wasn't like that at all. Anyway, I enjoyed it. (Karen)But he is so utterly unimpressive when he starts talking. Sheesh So true. He's coarse and stupid-sounding. A disgrace to the man whose initials he matches.;-) I thought there were a number of very pretty dresses. Renne looked superb, I like her new hairdo. Was very glad she won--well deserved! Julianne Moore looked beautiful, as did Nicole Kidman (but the earrings overwhelmed her). Was very surprised that NK did not mention any of the film's other stars, as this is such an ensemble piece. Rita Wilson looked great, as did Nia Vardalos, and the woman from Curb Your Enthusiasm (I can't recall her name either, Dorine, but she looked sensational, I agree!). Was disappointed in Debra Messing's outfit; she is usually pulled together so beautifully. Agree that Richard Gere is still a babe--and has he gotten a personality transplant or something? He always struck me as sort of strange and austere, but then again he never spoke much to the press. Glad to see him open up, he's absolutely charmimg, and he's clearly having a ball. Maybe marriage and babies agree with him. Was happy to see Uma Thurman win for Hysterical Blindness, whuch I thought was very good. Most other nominees in that cateogry (actress, TV movie) had no business being there, their roles were nothing.

Can't forget about Nicole Kidman and Julianne Moore, they looked great, earrings and all. I too was disappointed in Kate Blanchett. I find the subject matter of About Schmidt a bore. I will rent that one.

(moon)I want to go to the Miramax post Oscar party! Me too! And to their pre-Oscar party also, where they all put on skits poking fun of each other's films. You remember, the skits CF wouldn't participate in.:-( The Hours is a very European film, Actually, it's American. But maybe you meant European in feel?

But maybe you meant European in feel? Sheesh, Mari! I thought we had ESP. ;-) You remember, the skits CF wouldn't participate in.:-( I thought he did participate! Party pooper.

Heads up! GC on Charlie Rose tonight according to the ticker on Access Hollywood. (Moon) I absolutely love Jude Law. The most elegant in that 60's tux. Very very handsome. Mmmm Mmmm. (Mari) I saw About Schmidt today and I liked both the film and Jack very much. Go figure!;-) I liked the movie, just expected to love it. Got to give partial kudos though to a film that has a character who says specifically she is an Occupational Therapist. No explanation of what that means and what OT's do, but there may come a time. Usually poorly portrayed in films if at all (e.g. in Regarding Henry). PT's get all the glory usually. Agree that Richard Gere is still a babe--and has he gotten a personality transplant or something? ROTF! Did you see him in the one on one room with Mary Hart on ET? They went into the little picture booth like you used to see at the mall, and he started burrowing his head in her breasts and seemingly trying to bite them, LOL. He was so giddy. It's adorable.

Am so glad RZ and Chicago did so well. Very happy for her. Happy to see Meryl Streep win as well. And did think Gere deserved win as well. Also feel he has had personality transplant. Actually, almost enjoyable to watch on recent interviews. Couldn't stand him before. Surprised the JN won over DDL. Did not feel performances comparable in the very least. Even JN repeated several times he thought he made a comedy. How tall is Nicole Kidman? She seems to tower over everyone. Laura Flynn is the talk of the nation and I'm sure world for her outfit. Next to winners getting most publicity. Smart move. Didn't know ponytails were back in high-fashion. But apparently so. However feel Joan needs to hang up the mic. Absolutely horrible and gets worse each outing. Didn't know people were married and when corrected was flippant. Didn't know movies actors were in. It's time to go Joan. Read where Reese Witherspoon is #1 actrees according to Entertainment Weekly. RZ is #2. Yet neither showed up in Peoples Choice. Does anyone know who actually votes for People's Choice? I never heard of some of the movies nominated either. Also reported RW signed for $22 mil for Red, White and Blonde, Legally Blonde 2. Is she really worth that? Wonder what she got for TIOBE. Anyone know?

(Pam) Also reported RW signed for $22 mil for Red, White and Blonde, Legally Blonde 2. Is she really worth that? Heard she got 5 mil for Sweet Home Alabama and 15 mil for Legally Blonde 2. Didn't hear the 22 mil. She gets it because her movies have big openings and judging by Sweet Home AL, some staying power as well. No idea what she got for TIOBE. Not a huge amount, think the budget was only around 15 mil. Can't remember off hand for sure.

Did you see him in the one on one room with Mary Hart on ET? They went into the little picture booth like you used to see at the mall, and he started burrowing his head in her breasts and seemingly trying to bite them Hysterical! And he just came out on the Tonight Show with a shocking pink tutu. Mari, when did you become a 55 y.o. man? ;-) Sorry, but AS doesn't fit my definition of a Best Picture candidate, no matter what the demographic. Or is the fact that guys like to keep the sit up, live like slobs and stock up on frozen foods something new to you? A million laughs, huh? New insights on middle America? ;-)

ROFLOL at Lara Flynn Boyle's outfir. She looked to me like a cross between a ballerina and a dog musher with the tutu and the laces up to her kmees.

Don't you think the Harveyfest had its origins in all the bad press Harvey's gotten lately? A little effort to say that not everybody feel the same way about Mr Scissorhands Old Time Mogul?

(Karen)Mari, when did you become a 55 y.o. man? ;-) There's a lot you don't know about me.;-) Does one need to be depressed and suicidal to appreciate The Hours?;-) If all you took away from the film was that some men can be helpless slobs, no wonder you didn't like it. I found it to be a wonderful character study of a man who has done what was expected of him all his life--worked hard, paid taxes, had a family--only to find out that he has conributed nothing of substance, left no mark. His "work life" has been reduced to dozens of archive boxes that no one will ever refer to. He has no real relationship with his daughter. His marriage had been on auto pilot for probably decades. A lonely retirement stretches before him. And the road ahead is looking a lot shorter than the one behind. Tragic, and unfortunately very common, but perhaps not hopeless. Loved the "Dear Ndugu" bits.

If all you took away from the film was that some men can be helpless slobs, no wonder you didn't like it. What I'm saying is there's nothing new here (ho hum entertainment) and the film doesn't warrant the high praise it has being given. If you had a woman in that role, my bet is it would have a hard time getting a distributor and most of the Hwood papers would call it Lifetime Channel entertainment. American Beauty showed the same type of thing (whole life has been a waste) as well, but much more and with far more style and artistry.

And the "men being slobs, etc." thing, that's what the audience laughed hardest at.

(Karen) Don't you think the Harveyfest had its origins in all the bad press Harvey's gotten lately? A little effort to say that not everybody feel the same way about Mr Scissorhands Old Time Mogul? Is this a serious or rhetorical question? There were no winkies. ;-) (Mari) Loved the "Dear Ndugu" bits. LOL, those were the parts I did actually love. Too few of them, though. Tend to agree with Karen on AS as far as award and accolade worthiness.

(Karen)If you had a woman in that role, my bet is it would have a hard time getting a distributor and most of the Hwood papers would call it Lifetime Channel entertainment. You're probably right, and that's a shame. But I can't penalize the film that did get made, on that basis. American Beauty showed the same type of thing (whole life has been a waste) as well, but much more and with far more style and artistry. Yes, and with a lot less realism. I liked AB very much, but they are very different films, IMO. Warren Schmidt is 67; Lester Burnham is only about 37, still lots of time to turn things around. AB used exaggeration and invented a series of unlikelihoods to make its points: Most men don't get fired. Most don't have neurotic, shrill wives who are cheating on them. Most don't have affairs with their teenage daughter's friend. Most don't take up pot midlife. Most don't have a gun-toting sociopath living next door (who, for good measure, is one part homosexual and one part homophobe). Most don't get murdered by said neighbor. AS is a lot less arty and stylized, but it's more real. And therefore more frightening, IMO. Nothing against AB, I liked it, but it's contrived.

(Karen) What I'm saying is there's nothing new here (ho hum entertainment) and the film doesn't warrant the high praise it has being given. If you had a woman in that role, my bet is it would have a hard time getting a distributor and most of the Hwood papers would call it Lifetime Channel entertainment. Wait a minute here... I haven't seen AS, have no interest in seeing it. But Nicole Kidman hit the nail on the head when she asked the writers to keep writing great roles for women, because we are very interesting people. I think if you took the same premise of AS and turned it into a woman, it would be more complex. Men just aren't complex, they're as easy as an Harlequin Romance novel! ;)

(Karen) Hysterical! And he just came out on the Tonight Show with a shocking pink tutu. How funny was that. I was hysterically laughing out loud. He was jubilant. I can't think what has caused this transformation.

(Dorine) Is this a serious or rhetorical question? There were no winkies. ;-) From today's IndieWire: In his acceptance speech, Gere made sure to thank Miramax honcho Harvey Weinstein, saying that he had a "heart of gold" contrary to a recent New Yorker magazine profile.

The reason I asked is that I was very aware already of the New Yorker article (read some of it and articles about it), and why everyone was thanking their "God", Harvey Weinstein and thought you might know of it, too. Granted others may not. RG practically scowled while he sort of scolded the New Yorker in his speech. Did you hear him call HW, Harvey Weintraub in one of those interviews after? With the guy from E!, I think? I think RG went on and on so much during that interview, the host practically kicked him out as soon as he stopped talking, LOL.

...(Laura)....writers to keep writing great roles for women, because we are very interesting people. I'm not.

Gere thanked his wife for teaching him how to smile. I think he took himself very seriously at one time. I think the Dalai Lama smiled more than he did. Might just be a maturity thing.

Thanks, Dorine for the heads up on GC on Charlie Rose. Here is an article from our local paper about CG and COADM: Sunday, January 19, 2003 From: The Cincinnati Enquirer By Margaret A. McGurk In 'Confessions,' Clooney 'stole' the best scenes George Clooney borrowed from the best for his first job as director. From the Coen brothers, who directed Mr. Clooney in O Brother Where Art Thou?, he adopted the tactic of using "camera as a character." He said he took cues on "non-linear storytelling" from Steven Soderbergh, his director in Out of Sight, Ocean's Eleven and Solaris, and his partner in a production company called Section Eight. But more important influences - "the guys I was ripping off, to be quite honest" - were Mike Nichols and Alan Pakula. Mr. Clooney's movie, Confessions of A Dangerous Mind, opens Friday in Cincinnati. "I screened movies for the cast and crew quite a lot," Mr. Clooney said recently by phone. "I screened Carnal Knowledge, Catch 22, The Graduate," all directed by Mr. Nichols. "Then I screened some Pakula films, The Parallax View and Klute, some films that dealt with danger and suspense, because Alan was really good with that. I was stealing shots from those. I was stealing sounds from All That Jazz. ... Every time we'd do a shot, it would be some old film. I'd look over at (cinematographer) Tom (Sigel) and say, `You know, Carnal Knowledge.' " The movie is based on the bizarre autobiography of game-show creator Chuck Barris, in which he claimed to be a CIA assassin while simultaneously running The Dating Game and The Gong Show. Mr. Barris, portrayed in the movie by Sam Rockwell, never has recanted that story. Mr. Clooney has backed away from his declaration after finishing Confessions that he would not direct again. "It will come down to if I find another story I have a unique view of. I had sort of a great way of understanding this," he said, attributing it to his father, longtime television personality Nick Clooney. "I grew up on sets, on TV shows. The Nick Clooney Show, the set would fly up in the air at like 1:30 after he'd finished the show. He'd put it on ropes and the risers would all go up in the air, and there'd be a bowling alley underneath it. And they'd shoot Bowling for Dollars right there. "I knew what those sets looked like from the back and I knew how they felt, what they looked like when cameras weren't on. I certainly understand the trappings of celebrity. ... So I thought I had a unique take on this. And if I have another film like that, I'd do it. But only if there's a reason to." Influenced partly by his father's new book, The Movies That Changed Us, he said, "I'm in the middle of watching Hail The Conquering Hero right now. I've been thinking about a Preston Sturges kind of comedy." If it does come to pass, he is likely to use favored collaborators. "I believe in rep companies," he said. "I've worked with Don Cheadle three or four times, Mark Wahlberg three times. I'm a firm believer in working with people you like and trust." Asked for new additions to his dream team, he said, "You gotta get Renee in there, Renee Zellweger, 'cause she's just as good an actress as they come." Meanwhile, he and Mr. Soderbergh intend to produce movies that appeal to their own tastes. "We're just looking for good screenplays," Mr. Clooney said. "... You want to get people who've written something on spec, because they've written it out of passion, not because they've written it for a job. . . . "It's just a gut feeling. It's the first 10 pages in. It's that simple. You know by the way they write dialogue, because it's something unique, a voice you haven't heard before, or a voice you've heard before you'd like to hear again." While Confessions is tallying encouraging reviews and box office figures in early release, the year has held disappointments. Welcome To Collinwood, the Cleveland-based film that Mr. Clooney produced (and appeared in briefly), came and went with little notice. And while critics raved about Solaris, audiences rejected the psychological science-fiction movie. "My feeling is seven, eight years from now, there will be people who rediscover that film, and that's OK," Mr. Clooney said. "People didn't get Out of Sight at all, in fact it lost money, and now people talk about it as a really good film. O Brother they didn't get and Three Kings they didn't get. And I find those films hold up. My feeling is, it's sort of better to just do them and let them sit there and pick up the pieces all at the end."

And here is an interesting companion piece to the above article about the guy who did the storyboards for COADM: Sunday, January 19, 2003 From: The Cincinnati Enquirer By Margaret A. McGurk Dayton native has fun working with Clooney Dayton native J. Todd Anderson made his on-screen debut as a murder victim in the Coen brothers' movie Fargo while working as the film's storyboard artist, a craft he has practiced for 15 years. He landed his second movie role - as a nameless Dating Game contestant in Confessions of a Dangerous Mind - in pretty much the same way. George Clooney met him on the Coens' O Brother Where Art Thou?, and invited him to draw for Confessions, Mr. Clooney's directing debut. "I was working with him every day on storyboarding," Mr. Clooney said of Mr. Anderson, "and the more I worked with him, the more I sort of kept thinking, `This guy is perfect for this part.' ... Isn't he great in it? He's going to get a lot of acting jobs from it." Mr. Anderson puts it this way: "I guess George felt I could be a fat bachelor." (The role now appears in the credits as "stud bachelor.") Mr. Anderson said acting in Confessions was "terrifying." "I have never done anything with that kind of breadth before," he said. "I had to memorize a lot of dialogue, and I had to be on my mark. I knew all that stuff because I had been on the other side of the camera" as co-writer and director of the independent feature The Naked Man, "but I was always wondering whether I was going to give George what he wanted. When you work for George, you really want to do a good job. "He's not like other directors. He's ... always pushing that envelope to get the absolute best. He forces you to work beyond your potential. ... You really had to dial in and give it the best you had. "He was always on time, I never saw him stressed out, never once. I just remember how when we were doing The Naked Man I was a piece of meat with eyes. I never saw that glaze in George's eyes. "Every day it was a lot of fun. ... This set never got heavy, never once. I've never seen anybody with such immaculate people skills. You can tell that he's just been around the block quite a few times in this business."

Nice words in the UK for TV's "The Lost Prince." Looks like we will see it over here: http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,878840,00.html

(Evelyn)I'm not. Says who??? You've raised two boys, you travel, how can you not be interesting???? YOU MET COLIN FIRTH??????? ;) (You know I love you!)

Davies pens steamy Chatterley drama John Plunkett Wednesday January 22, 2003 The Guardian The controversial screenwriter of Tipping the Velvet is to set pulses racing once again with a raunchy drama based around the obscenity trial of Lady Chatterley's Lover. Andrew Davies is returning to the erotic classic, which he adapted for BBC1 10 years ago. His new drama, The Trial of Lady Chatterley, is centred on the story of two jurors who become lovers after they fell under the spell of the novel during the infamous 1960 trial. "It is based around the trial of Lady Chatterley's Lover," said Davies. "Two of the jurors taking part in the trial have a brief encounter after they fall under the influence of DH Lawrence's prose." The drama, which he is writing for ITV, is expected to be very much in the tradition of Davies' other TV credits, which include Moll Flanders, Pride and Prejudice and Vanity Fair. Davies' recent ITV credits include a modern Othello and a new adaptation of Dr Zhivago. Lady Chatterley's Lover, which had been banned since it first appeared in 1928, was published by Penguin Books in May 1960. The publisher was found not guilty following a five-day trial, and within a year Penguin had sold a massive 2 million copies. "Physical love plays an important part in the book," reported the Guardian at the time of the trial. "The theme of physical love calls for detailed description of sexual acts. These are what make the book controversial. But their purpose is an honest one. It is to show the redeeming power of that love and the importance of tenderness." Davies is no stranger to controversy. Asked why readers of lads' mags should watch his adaptation of Sarah Waters' lesbian drama, Tipping the Velvet, he replied, "Two women fucking - each other." The controversy surrounding the show helped the much-hyped costume drama to nearly 5 million viewers last October, more than twice BBC2's normal audience. Davies described the drama, about an oyster girl from Whitstable swept away by a cross-dressing music hall star, as "absolutely filthy". Davies is also adapting another Anthony Trollope novel for the BBC following the success of his previous adaptation, The Way We Live Now. He described I Knew He Was Right, a four-part adaptation for BBC1, as "a story of pathological jealousy - with a comic sub-plot". The Way We Live Now, starring David Suchet, was one of BBC1's flagship dramas last winter and won the best drama prize at last year's Bafta television awards. Davies said I Knew He Was Right would be ready by the end of this year. The BBC's adaptation of Lady Chatterley's Lover, which starred Joely Richardson and Sean Bean, aired on BBC1 in 1993.

The Directors Guild nominations: High Five for Helmers HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Three relative newcomers and two veterans were center stage in nominations for the 55th annual Directors Guild of America awards. Receiving nods for directorial achievement were Stephen Daldry ("The Hours"), Peter Jackson ("Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers"), Rob Marshall ("Chicago"), Roman Polanski (news) ("The Pianist") and Martin Scorsese ("Gangs of New York"). The pictures ranged from fantasy to musical to heavy drama, but all were December releases. And period tales prevailed as only one-third of one film -- "The Hours" -- is set in present day. The nominees are also an international mix with Daldry from the U.K., Jackson from New Zealand, Polanski from Poland and Marshall and Scorsese from the United States. Though none of the five has previously won a DGA award, Scorsese is a five-time nominee and was recently selected by the DGA for this year's lifetime achievement award; Polanski is a third-timer and Jackson's nod is his second. Scorsese's previous nominations came for "Taxi Driver" (1976), "Raging Bull" (1980), "Goodfellas" (1990) and "Age of Innocence" (1993). Polanski's nods came for "Rosemary's Baby" (1968) and "Chinatown" (1974) Jackson was nominated last year for "The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring." Daldry and Marshall are getting their first DGA film nods. "The Hours" is Daldry's second feature following "Billy Elliot" while "Chicago" is the first film for Marshall, who received a DGA TV nomination for the 2000 TV movie "Annie." Contenders failing to make cut included Todd Haynes ("Far From Heaven"), Spike Jonze ("Adaptation"), Sam Mendes ("Road to Perdition"), Philip Noyce ("The Quiet American"), Alexander Payne ("About Schmidt"), Steven Spielberg ("Catch Me If You Can," "Minority Report"), Denzel Washington ("Antwone Fisher"), as well as two foreign-language helmers, Pedro Almodovar ("Talk to Her"), and Alfonso Cuaron ("Y tu Mama Tambien"). Spielberg holds the all-time DGA record for nominations (nine) and wins (three, for "The Color Purple," "Schindler's List" and "Saving Private Ryan"). The nominations, selected among 382 eligible pictures by the DGA's 12,000 members, were unveiled Tuesday by DGA president Martha Coolidge at guild headquarters in Hollywood. She stressed the DGA voting has been "the most accurate" indicator of which director will an Academy Award, with winners matching in all but five of the 54 years in which the DGA has given its award. "We all want to win an Oscar but directors will tell you that this award is nearest and dearest to their heart," Coolidge added. The winner will be announced March 1 at the 55th annual DGA Awards Dinner at the Century Plaza Hotel in Los Angeles. The DGA will announce TV and documentary nominations in coming weeks. Oscar nominations will be unveiled on Feb. 11, with the ceremony taking place on March 23. Marshall, who was driving when he was notified of the nomination by his publicist, said he was stunned: "I'm overwhelmed to be included when it's such a strong season." Marshall said the DGA support was probably due to appreciation by members for the complexities of directing a musical. "Even though musicals look like nothing but fun, it's as if you're making one and a half movies," he added. Jackson, who is in New Zealand editing "Lord of the Rings: Return of the King," said he was pleased to receive back-to-back nominations, citing the challenges of integrating multiple story lines on "Towers." "'The Two Towers' is the most difficult of the three and I believe people recognize that this film is not just more of the same," he added. "I'm very appreciative that people didn't say, 'We gave him one last year so we don't need to do it again."' Polanski issued a statement: "Nothing can be more gratifying than recognition by one's peers. My nomination by the DGA for 'The Pianist' gives me the greatest pleasure. However, it would not have been possible without the collaboration of my magnificent crew." Daldry said, "I'm very grateful to the members of the Directors Guild, for whom I have a great respect. This film means so much to me, and working with the three greatest actresses of our day was pleasure enough, but the nomination by the directors is more than icing on the cake -- it's a compliment I shall treasure. DGA nominations are selected by feature directors, TV helmers, associate directors, assistant directors, stage managers and unit production managers while this year's Oscar noms will be made by the 370 members of the Academy's directors' branch. The last split between the DGA and the Academy came two years ago as Ang Lee won the DGA race for "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" while the Oscar went to Steven Soderbergh (news) for "Traffic." The other divergences: DGA and Oscar winners were, respectively, Anthony Harvey for "The Lion in Winter" and Carol Reed, "Oliver!" in 1968; Francis Ford Coppola, "The Godfather," and Bob Fosse, "Cabaret," 1972; Spielberg, "The Color Purple," and Sydney Pollack, "Out of Africa," 1985; and Ron Howard, "Apollo 13," and Mel Gibson, "Braveheart," 1995. Last year, three DGA nominees also got Oscar nominations: Howard ("A Beautiful Mind"), Jackson and Ridley Scott("Black Hawk Down"). Baz Luhrmann ("Moulin Rouge") and Christopher Nolan ("Memento") took DGA nods while Robert Altman ("Gosford Park") and David Lynch ("Mulholland Drive") got Oscar nominations.

" Contenders failing to make cut included.... *And* what about Sam Mendes... (laura)(You know I love you!) Gosh.... Cold up there...are you wearing your Arsenal scarf;-))

*And* what about Sam Mendes... He was listed as "failing to make the cut.

They can only nominate five. Who would you drop?

Nick Hornby wrote a new book called either 31 Songs or Songbook (depending on the source or publisher?) where in a High Fidelity fashion he made a list of his favorite songs and wrote essays about each. Does any Firthette have a copy, and if so would you mind emailing me the essay about Bruce Springsteen's Thunder Road -- NH's most oft-played tune? I'd be most thankful! An article about the release: http://store.yahoo.com/mcsweeneysbooks/songbook.html An article that talks specifically about Thunder Road with references to NH's essay: http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/features/story.jsp?story=369940 I hope O&E is ok for this. I'm still wading through past drool topics to see what else is there. You girls have been so busy! :) So if there is a NH topic, Karen feel free to move this there.

It IS FRIGID up here. Funny that you mention the Arsenal scarf, because I saw someone wearing Liverpool! and mentioned the only thing that team had for them was Michael Owen, nearly fell over speechless!

Thanks, Odile. Must check it out. (Karen), They can only nominate five. Who would you drop? Easy, Martin Scorsese. He's done so much better. I hated that circus he's created. The bad news is that he didn't win for Taxi Driver or Raging Bull. They might just give it to him. How Polanski did not win it for Rosemary's Baby is a mystery. That film is a classic. Can we say the same of the film that won for the director? Thanks for all the interesting articles. George Clooney's method of directing cracked me up, "I'd look over at (cinematographer) Tom (Sigel) and say, `You know, Carnal Knowledge.'" LOL!

I'd put Peter Jackson in the animation category if they had one. ;-) IMO those films shouldn't even be competing in some categories, because they are nothing more than computer generated effects.

Jeannette Walls Newsletter... Dear Readers: Things were looking mighty grim on the red carpet at this year's Golden Globes. Arrivals were over at 5 p.m. PT, and by 3:30 p.m., the biggest stars I had on camera were Bernie Mac (from the next "Charlie's Angels) and Sean Astin (Samwise "Sam" Gamgee, a supporting Hobbit in "LOTR.") The accountants from Ernst and Young kept walking back and forth in their sensible shoes, conspicuously swinging their logo-emblazoned briefcases, but no one wanted to interview them. Catherine Dent of "The Shield" also walked the carpet until it was threadbare. I was getting desperate for a good sound bite when I spotted a potential voting scandal: Access Hollywood had asked viewers to pick the dress that hostess Nancy O'Dell would wear for the evening. There she was, right in front of me, a vision in robin's egg blue, when I KNEW FOR A FACT that the viewers had voted for the lilac gown! With mike in hand, I bravely confronted Ms. O'Dell. She explained with a perky smile that she was changing into the lilac dress after the arrivals. "Oh," I said. "OK." Joan Rivers demanded to see the back of my hair. "Well," she sniffed. "It's better than when you worked with me." (I used to appear on Joan's now-defunct gossip show. Her critique was a quasi-insult, I think.) "Entertainment Tonight" -- which usually gets a prime spot -- was crammed into a teeny corner plot, and the producers were grumbling. KTLA's Sam Rubin was giving out free M&Ms to try to seduce the celebs into talking. Shirley MacLaine was getting sulky, and whined to her publicist, "Can we go now?" Jamie Lee Curtis, who years ago became bored with telling reporters who designed her dress and did her hair, was handing out pre-printed cards with the info. Ashley, my producer, started walking up and down the red carpet, cleverly posing as a publicist, to see who was coming. She came back breathless and wide-eyed. "Major news!" she said. "Lara Flynn Boyle is wearing a tutu!" "What do you mean?" I said, my reportorial skepticism kicking in. "I mean a pink tutu! I swear. With lace-up, high-heel ballet slippers! The crowd is going wild. This is momentous! Really, really huge!!!" (Check it out at http://www.msnbc.com/news/861573.asp#tutu) I breathed a sigh of relief even as my palms got sweaty in anticipation. There is nothing worse than covering an awards show if you can't come out and say truly snarky things about someone. It was then that the Golden Globes really picked up. The celeb crush came all at once: Nicole making I-really-want-to-talk-to-you-but-my-publicist-won't-let-me gestures to camera crews. Catherine and Michael wouldn't talk to most reporters, but she insisted they stop for the British press. Daniel Day Lewis, almost unrecognizable and still quite bald. Cameron and Salma and Edie and Beyonce and Renee and Halle appeared practically all at once and all looking fabulous. Goldie and Sharon looking not so fab. Halle's hubby stroked her arm as she turned away. Nicholas Cage pointedly refused to speak with Us Weekly. Apparently, he's not thrilled with what they wrote about his mini-marriage to Lisa Marie. When Lara Flynn Boyle pranced down the red carpet, your humble Scooper reached new lows -- and, Dear Readers, I've stooped pretty darned low -- trying to get a sound bite. "Lara, PLEASE, over here! Show us your dress! Wave to our camera! PLEASE!" Faye Dunaway watched my performance with a mixture of amusement and horror. "Lara! I'll get fired if you don't speak with me. Please! My livelihood depends on you." "Give it up," Faye said to me. "It isn't going to happen." * * * After the arrivals, we took our seats backstage. The Golden Globes are the best awards show out there because -- for whatever reason -- even the most press-hating stars come back to talk to us. A couple of years ago, Tom Cruise fielded questions, and the year before that, we couldn't get Barbra Streisand to shut up and sit down. Meryl Streep came back and told us why she didn't want to meet Susan Orlean, the New Yorker writer she plays in "Adaptation." "I chose not to be confused by the truth," she said. She got off the stage, announcing to her publicist, "I really have to pee!" Richard Gere also came back and talked. And talked. He talked about musicals. He talked about the meaning of life. But he was mercifully short when someone asked him the meaning of some string-bracelet he was wearing. "That would take about three days to explain," he said. He also demurred when an L.A.-based online reporter asked, "Richard, why is gray hair so damned sexy on you?" Uma Thurman -- to her credit -- also dodged an inappropriate question or two. "Are you wearing a thong?" a reporter asked. "You're just going to have to guess," Uma said after regaining her composure. "What's the sexiest Christmas present you've ever received?" asked another. "Sexy Christmas present? Uh, er, gee?" Uma said as her publicist escorted her off stage. Sam Rubin kept asking celebs if they liked their M&Ms. Bono didn't take many questions because he was having too much fun pontificating without prompting. He discussed the racism of the Irish. "We learned from the best," he said. He told a not-short story about telling off a mugger who had a gun. He had been emboldened, he explained, because he'd just seen a Martin Scorsese flick. Still, the press crowd was rapt. CNN's Daryn Kagan especially. She had this hard-hitting question for Bono: "It was seven months ago we were sitting in a bar in Ghana and you were singing the lyrics of this song to me. How do you feel about that now?" Bono hemmed and hawed a bit. When he left the stage, Daryn was waiting with open arms, which she threw around Bono. She was all over him like a cheap suit. Or perhaps I should say, like Sharon Stone on Richard Gere. Jack Nicholson seemed to be enjoying himself immensely, and fielded even the most obnoxious questions with his trademark grin. His publicist, the ever watchful Pat Kingsley, seemed to be enjoying herself less. She gave him the "wrap this up" signal as soon as a reporter mentioned Lara Flynn Boyle. But Jack ignored Pat, and gushed about Lara. He also had kind words for Nicole Kidman, as Pat -- who also reps Tom Cruise -- watched stonily. As Jack left the stage, he was rushed by KCBS-TV's David Sheehan, who threw his arm around Jack's shoulder, and offered him a breath mint. "That's disgraceful," Ashley hissed as Pat Kingsley struggled to wrestle Jack free from David Sheehan's iron grip. "Since when is it our job to make celebs smell good?" Now there's a woman after my own heart. For I am, as always, Your Faithful Scooper, Jeannette Walls

(Karen) They can only nominate five. Who would you drop? (Moon) Easy, Martin Scorsese He's already getting the lifetime acheivement award. He really shouldn't get it for Gangs, but I don't think it was as bad as Moon thinks. I think it was a beautifully shot movie though didn't like how most of the first fight scene was shot, the production design incredible. But still quite flawed. Bet DDL's Oscar clip will be the one with him in the chair with the flag draped around him. He also demurred when an L.A.-based online reporter asked, "Richard, why is gray hair so damned sexy on you?" Uma Thurman -- to her credit -- also dodged an inappropriate question or two. "Are you wearing a thong?" a reporter asked. Daryn was waiting with open arms, which she threw around Bono. She was all over him like a cheap suit. Or perhaps I should say, like Sharon Stone on Richard Gere. LOL!!! Next stop for our intrepid reporters....60 Minutes!

Oh, I don't think any working director would be happy with a "consolation" prize award and would rather get it for an individual work.

I completely agree and at a Q&A he expressed almost profound disappointment and bewilderment (along with the rest of us) as to why he hadn't won one already. Not sure how secret those results are among any or all of the guild members, but seems they wouldn't give him the "consolation" prize if he was truly going to win one. I suppose it could be a fluke though if he won.

Thanks for the great and humorous report Jeannette. Hope you got to go to the parties and have some fun.

Related News: From a USA Today review of Sam Mendes' two productions at the Brooklyn Academy of Music: "Similarly, Mark Strong uses his gentle but firm presence to great advantage as both the duke who desires Olivia but is strangely drawn to Cesario and the passionate young doctor who is the object of Sonya's unrequited love." Whole story: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=680&e=5&cid=680&u=/usatoday/20030122/en_usatoday/4798624

Sean Astin (Samwise "Sam" Gamgee, a supporting Hobbit in "LOTR.") Hate to burst your bubble, but Sam is not the supporting Hobbit, but the hero of the books. Frodo is the supporting Hobbit. Just had to clarify. ;)

Saw "The Hours" yesterday. It and The Piano are the big toss-ups for me for Oscar winners. A Big Must -See. I read the book (Pulitizer Prize, 1998)and considered it unfilmable. I mean, how do you film a story linking an author (Va. Woolf)in 1923 with two of her latter day readers (1950's and 1991)in the smae sphere of consciousness.Stephen Daldry does it in spades.It was his luck to get such fantastic actresses...I've seen Julianne Moore and Meryl S. in similar roles. But Nicole Kidman ...what a stretch for her, and she nails it. David Hare's / Michael Cunningham (author of the book) wrote a dialogue that's brilliant. .Hare also wrote "The Blue Room" .NK appeared in it at the Donmar and won the BAFTA.(Did she also win the Tony?) Although featuring women, I liked the fact that they didn't depict men in a demeaning or disrespectful manner. All of them admire, love and respect the women . Leonard (SD) is loving and caring. SD never hogs the screen, a true supporter, he lets Nicole shine. Mermerizing performances and direction.

had a bit of a permisssions problem a bit ago and I got a call from Karen. I think it's ok now but I'm still testing. I've been doing a lot of heavy lifting on teh site and it's no doubt due to all the big changes I've been doing.

I tried to post and it wouldn't let me:(

Okay, weighing in a bit late on the GG's I know, but the stomach flu kept me in bed & away from the PC: Was very happy for RZ & she looked fabulous! My friends and I were trying to identify her dress, and I can't believe I got it right; I've been reading too much InStyle, apparently :) Anyone catch the nuzzle from RG on the red carpet on the network's arrival show? His wife didn't look too pleased... Speaking of the arrival show, what was up with the god-awful questions they were asking? For example, to HG (paraphrased): your character in About a Boy was running from marriage; do you feel you have a lot in common with that? Tacky, tacky. Joan Rivers had a lot of company in the dumb question department, apparently... LFB...well...she will definitely go down in GG history as having one of the most *memorable* dresses...ye gods... What was up with all the dark eye makeup and pale lipstick? And the ponytails? Ick... SS had to be on something, the way she was acting (and dressing) and Goldie Hawn...yikes! Time to fire your stylist, hon. Colin Farrell amused me somewhat b/c he seemed so excited to be there ($hit!!); no canned answers from him, that's for sure. But, as for my preference between the two CF's? LOL, oh I'm a true-blue Firthette; no contest...

How about this: Ndugu is a real boy, affiliated with a real organization: Real kid touches 'Schmidt' audience By Scott Bowles, USA TODAY Abdallah Mtulu can't read or write, doesn't speak English and has never seen a movie. Yet the 6-year-old Tanzanian has managed to touch audiences and Hollywood's elite with his film debut in About Schmidt. Since Abdallah, known as Ndugu in the Jack Nicholson film, had his picture and crayon drawing featured in the movie, donations to the real-life organization that helps care for him and 1 million other children have soared. "It's incredible," says Samuel Worthington of Childreach, one of the largest non-profit humanitarian groups. "We were just hoping the movie would let people know the work we do. We didn't expect so many to join in." The group, which recruits U.S. sponsors for children in developing countries for $24 a month, typically receives three sponsorships a day on its Web site (www.childreach.org). When the movie went nationwide Jan. 3, that rose to 80 a day. Nicholson, producer Harry Gittes and director Alexander Payne gave $5,600. The movie crew wrote to Abdallah on their lunch breaks. In the film, Nicholson plays a retired insurance actuary who sponsors Ndugu and writes rambling letters to his "foster son." Gittes says filmmakers were looking for realism, "so we wanted a real child with a real, reputable organization." The search led them to Childreach and to Abdallah, who lives in Longongogole, a 236-family village in Tanzania with a per-capita family income of $1 a day, according to Childreach. Unlike in the film, money to Childreach is used for food, shelter, to build schools and hospitals, and doesn't go directly to the child. But the rest is true to life, says Childreach's Amy Luz. "That's our phone number on the screen, and we encourage the kids to draw pictures for their sponsor, since so many can't read or write." Gittes says that two Golden Globe awards and Oscar buzz for Schmidt have been rewarding but "not like the real-life effect it's having. I've been producing movies for more than 30 years, and you always aspire to make one that has real impact. This may be the one."

Just saw that Londinium is playing on HBO Signature (or HBO3)several times next month. I wonder if some exec at HBO felt bad that "the one who shall be nameless" had his show cancelled and is trying to make amends somehow? ;-)

(Ada) Just saw that Londinium is playing on HBO Signature (or HBO3)several times next month. Lord save us. At least it's not the main HBO. I kept hoping it would hide out at Cinemax which no one gets.

(AdaVW) I wonder if some exec at HBO felt bad that "the one who shall be nameless" had his show cancelled and is trying to make amends somehow? ;-) Can anyone feel THAT bad about cancellation? Would much rather think being shown to capitalize ;-) fine talents of great actor doing best with nothing to work with.

Saw " Confessions of a Dangerous Mind" last night. I was very impressed with Sam R. I never knew him or noticed him before. Julia once more confirmed that she can not act and she is not a femme fatale. Georgie boy copied too many stiles for me to be a fan of this film but it was a good effort. * Spoiler* Question: How did GC die? He bled to death, but the blood was leaking from the shoe. Dorine?

(Moon) I was very impressed with Sam R. I never knew him or noticed him before. Wasn't Sam R. the male lead in Lawn Dogs? I have to smile thinking about that film because it was you and winter that recommended it to me the day we had tea at the Four Seasons. That was a fun day, although perhaps not quite as stimulating an event as when we hooked up for the BJD sneak preview ;-).

Hi, Jana! Yes, our LA escapades were fun. I would have enjoyed the BJD sneak preview more had my DH not been with us. ;-))) Wasn't Sam R. the male lead in Lawn Dogs? Good memory! He was vg in that too. Another film I recommend to rent. Saw the restored "Metropolis" last night. This film was done in 1927 and it really started it all. The lighting, the sets, the prophetic story. An inspiration!

(Moon) Saw the restored "Metropolis" last night. Fantastic! I love this film....if you liked that, you should check out Fritz Lang's first talkie "M" with Peter Lorre. It is amazing. Lang uses sound for the first time and does so brilliantly. He uses it to build tension and move the story along. Highly recommend it if you have not already seen it.

you should check out Fritz Lang's first talkie "M" with Peter Lorre. I've seen it. I am a big fan of German expressionist film. I had seen "Metropolis" ages ago but that was an edited version. The restores "Metropolis" has all the lost reels and original sound track too.

Sunday night MT update: Masterpiece Theater has Me and Mrs. Jones, tonight. With Caroline Goodall and Robson Green. She's the Prime Minister and he is a tabloid reporter trying to dig up some dirt.

Katy Murphy (Donovan Quick) is in Me and Mrs. Jones (Masterpiece Theater), too.

From the BBC: The main nominations for this year's Bafta film awards, to be held at the Odeon Leicester Square cinema in London on 23 February. Best film Chicago Gangs of New York The Hours The Lord of The Rings: The Two Towers The Pianist Best British film (Alexander Korda award for the outstanding British film of the year) Bend it Like Beckham Dirty Pretty Things The Hours The Magdalene Sisters The Warrior Best director (David Lean award for achievement in direction) Rob Marshall - Chicago Martin Scosese - Gangs of New York Stephen Daldry - The Hours Peter Jackson - The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Roman Polanski - The Pianist Best actor in a leading role Adrien Brody - The Pianist Nicolas Cage - Adaptation Sir Michael Caine - The Quiet American Daniel Day-Lewis- Gangs of New York Jack Nicholson - About Schmidt Best actress in a leading role Halle Berry - Monster's Ball Salma Hayek - Frida Nicole Kidman - The Hours Meryl Streep - The Hours Renee Zellweger - Chicago Best actor in a supporting role Chris Cooper - Adaptation Ed Harris - The Hours Alfred Molina -Frida Paul Newman - Road To Perdition Christopher Walken - Catch Me If You Can Best actress in a supporting role Toni Collette - About A Boy Queen Latifah - Chicago Julianne Moore - The Hours Meryl Streep - Adaptation Catherine Zeta Jones - Chicago Make-up and hair Chicago Frida Gangs of New York The Hours The Lord of The Rings: The Two Towers Special visual effects Gangs of New York Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets The Lord of The Rings: The Two Towers Minority Report Spiderman Best sound Chicago Gangs of New York Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets The Lord of The Rings: The Two Towers The Pianist Editing City of God Gangs of New York The Hours Chicago The Lord of The Rings: The Two Towers Costume design Catch Me If You Can Chicago Frida Gangs of New York The Lord of The Rings: The Two Towers Production design Chicago Gangs of New York Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets The Lord of The Rings: The Two Towers Road to Perdition Cinematography Chicago Gangs of New York The Lord of The Rings: The Two Towers The Pianist Road To Perdition Best music (Antony Asquith award for achievement in film music) Catch Me If You Can Chicago Gangs of New York The Hours The Pianist Best film not in the English language Y Tu Mama Tambien (And Your Mother Too) City Of God (Ciudad de Deus) Devdas Hable con ella (Talk To Her) The Warrior Original screenplay Y Tu Mama Tambien (And Your Mother Too) Dirty Pretty Things Gangs of New York The Magdelene Sisters Hable con ella (Talk To Her) Adapted screenplay About a Boy Adaptation Catch Me If You Can The Hours The Pianist Carl Foreman award for special achievement in first feature film Simon Bent - Christie Malry's Own Double Entry (writer) Lucy Darwin - Lost In La Mancha (producer) Asif Kapadia - The Warrior (writer and director) Duncan Roy - AKA (writer and director) Best short film Bouncer Candy Bar Kid Good Night The Most Beautiful Man In The World My Wrongs 8245-8249 And 117 Rank Short animation The Chub Chubs The Dog Who Was A Cat Inside Fish Never Sleep Sap Wedding Expresso

Nothing for "Far From Heaven." I'm surprised about music and cinematography. I thought it would at least get one in these categories.

Thanks Murph for the Bafta noms. Personally routing for Renee and Chicago. Any idead of when it will be shown here?

Hard to believe that HG wasn't included here. What could be the reason?

Colin who?????????? ;) Jude Law Is Film Fans' Pick for Next 007 LONDON (Reuters) - English actor Jude Law topped a poll of film fans Monday to find the next incarnation of suave secret agent James Bond. The 30-year-old star took more than a quarter of votes in the Total Film magazine survey, finishing just ahead of Scottish "Star Wars" actor Ewan McGregor . Total Film editor Matt Mueller felt Law had that "posh" edge over the competition. "I think Jude Law has that upper class, debonair sophistication about him that people associate with James Bond," he said. "More so than Ewan McGregor and Christian Bale who came close." But he said McGregor's close second place was interesting because, like Sean Connery, he is Scottish. Current 007 actor Pierce Brosnan has committed himself to a fifth outing as Bond, but has said he may be too old for a sixth. "It takes stamina to play this role. I would like to get off the stage with grace," he told a news conference last year. The list of actors, and even pop stars, who have been linked with the role of Bond is a long one. They range from Oscar winner Russell Crowe and English actor Clive Owen to cheeky British singer Robbie Williams. Comedian Richard Blackwood is even reported to have offered his services as the first black Bond. "American Psycho" star Christian Bale came in third in Monday's poll, followed by Owen. Hugh Grant , famous for playing a foppish Englishman in "Four Weddings and a Funeral," took just two percent of votes.

Nothing for "Far From Heaven." My guess is that it didn't have a qualifying release in the UK during the right time frame. The Hours, I believe, just opened there, but all films were to have been screened in the UK by 12/31 in order to qualify. Somehow I think that one fell through the cracks. Pls note inclusion of Halle Berry for Monster's Ball from our last year's slate. They tried to insure there wouldn't be these discrepancies due to differences in release dates by having so-called qualifying runs for films that would be opening after the end of the year, but there was still last year's leftovers to deal with. Hard to believe that HG wasn't included here. OK, am drawing a blank here. :-( IMO these look like pretty pedestrian picks for the most part. No shockers or inspired ones. How can they justify putting both Meryl Streep and Nicole Kidman in the lead actrrss category for The Hours and Julianne Moore in the Supporting one??

From THR's article: Eligible films must have been screened for at least seven consecutive days for a public, paying audience by the date of the ceremony itself and/or released during 2002. Previously movies must have been released during Jan. 1-Dec. 31 of the previous year. This year "The Hours," "Adaptation" and "Catch Me If You Can" have not yet been seen by paying public audiences in the U.K. but are scheduled for release over the coming weeks.

In the 'Oh, no, don't do it" category... 'Birdie' flying to big screen again with Columbia By Zorianna Kit With a sudden resurgence of the musical genre thanks to the critical and commercial success of Miramax Films' "Chicago" and last year's "Moulin Rouge" from 20th Century Fox, Columbia Pictures is now angling for a piece of the musical pie. The studio, along with Doug Wick and Lucy Fisher's Red Wagon, is hoping to mount a big-screen version of "Bye Bye Birdie." The studio already owns the feature film rights to the musical, having previously brought it to the big screen with the 1963 version starring Dick Van Dyke, Janet Leigh, Maureen Stapleton and Bobby Rydell, among others. [Ed note: Ann-Margaret is considered "among others"?] No writer is yet on board to pen the new version, but Columbia executive vp Amy Baer is overseeing. "Birdie" takes place during the 1960s and centers on Conrad Birdie, an Elvis Presley-type rock 'n' roll star who is drafted into the Army, much to the horror of his broke agent, Albert Peterson. In an attempt to get some publicity to get rich and marry his sweetheart, Rose, Albert makes arrangements for Conrad to appear on "The Ed Sullivan Show," where he will give his last kiss as a civilian to a girl. The lucky recipient, Kim, is selected from Conrad's fan club, and the group sets out to Sweet Apple, Ohio, to meet her, much to the dismay of Kim's new boyfriend, Hugo. Relationships begin to unravel as Rose gets impatient with Albert, and the jealous Hugo knocks Conrad out cold during the televised kiss. Van Dyke originated the stage role of Albert when the musical opened April 14, 1960, at the Martin Beck Theater in New York before reprising the role for the feature film three years later. Chita Rivera starred as Rose in the production, which ran for 607 performances. ~~~~~~~~~ Maybe they'll cast Britney Spears in the 'among others' role this time. ;-)

Thanks, Karen. And I agree about the remake of Bye Bye. We saw the original on Broadway and have the vinyl cast album. Age has its compensations!

I know, am truly a purist. Leave great things alone!! I was even bugged by the cover version of "How Can I Be Sure" in last night's Me & Mrs Jones program. Would've much preferred hearing the Rascals singing it. ;-)

LONDINIUM HBO E Feb 14, 3:50 AM (Eastern)[a Valentine treat;-)] HBO SIGNATURE E Feb 1, 3,9,20, 26 HBO W Feb 24 [...and to ease their conscience] CONSPIRACY on HBO SIGNATURE E Feb 8,10,16,19,28

CONSPIRACY on HBO SIGNATURE E Feb 8,10,16,19,28 ] Bill just ordered that for me on netflix (still haven't seen it!) should arrive today amof. They did a remake of BBB on ABC w/ Jason Alexander, it was HORRIBLE... I can't see them re-making it. (I'm not even a big fan of the original!)

(Karen) I know, am truly a purist. Leave great things alone!! I was even bugged by the cover version of "How Can I Be Sure" in last night's Me & Mrs Jones program. Would've much preferred hearing the Rascals singing it. ;-) Me, too! About that time my 18-year-old son said something about what a terrible song it was. I told him it used to be good. I was glad to see Toni Collette nommed for supportint actress in AAB. I thought she was wonderful in it. Good to see her get some recognition.

KathyF: I was glad to see Toni Collette nommed for supportint actress in AAB. I thought she was wonderful in it. Good to see her get some recognition. She is also good in a brief scene in The Hours. Those Aussies!!! This mini-review from my blogging page: I saw "The Hours" yesterday. There was one brief scene that captured, to me, the essence of the film. Meryl Streep's character is talking to her daughter, and she remembers an early morning years ago, when she was sitting outside at a beach home, and her lover came out behind her and touched her on the shoulder. She said it was a moment of pure happiness for her -- the beginning of many such moments in her life, she thought -- but it turned out the happiness was just that one brief moment in time - pure and joyous and gone. The film is a slow, meditative one, very literary in dialogue, and the acting is of the highest caliber by all the cast, not just the three stars. But the overwhelming feeling I took away was that Streep was lucky to have had that one brief moment of joy. The lives and characters of the three principals were ones of deep unhappiness and disconnection from the rest of the world. They seemed to be trapped in some kind of well of loneliness. The movie left me wanting a happier redemption for the three than what we were given. I suppose in Kidman's Virginia Woolf, it was death. In Moore's Laura Brown character, desertion of family, and in Streep's Clarissa Vaughan, the losing of the person she thought made up her whole world. Sad, and finally not a film I would want to see again - Except maybe to watch the wonderful face of little Jack Rovello as Moore's young son.

Gee whiz.. I'm so far behind, again. I completely missed the GGs, but thanks to you all I almost feel as if I was there. =) My daughter leaves tomorrow, and after her graduation from boot camp, I won't see her again until Christmas, if then, so I'm even more scatterbrained and dimwitted. I guess letting go of your first must be very difficult for every mother, but I'm taking this pretty hard.. she and I have been the only girls in this house of men, now, for nineteen years. I'm going to be feeling very alone, so I'm depending upon all of you sweet girls to continue to keep me cheered up. =) (big appreciative hugs all around.. even to you more standoffish repressed types.. LOL! ;)) I've started on "The Pianist", thanks to my online "kids" (innocently batting eyelashes.. ting) The movie is only showing in one theater in Nashville as was TIOBE, so I was glad that the "kids" had mercy upon their mama, because with everything going on right now and the weather, there's no way I'd be able to go see it. It was fabulous seeing Emilia again. She has certainly grown up to be a very lovely woman! I'm only about 20 minutes into it, but I'm hoping to finish it up today. Maybe I'll manage to be more in touch.. we can hope, I guess!

Thought you'd find this interesting Director Martin Scorsese and actress Anjelica Huston have been chosen as Man and Woman of the Year by Harvard's Hasty Pudding Theatricals. Story

Saw 'Jane Bennett' last night on the BBCA's episode of "Waking the Dead". No longer an ingenue, she is still a stunner and put in a great performance as the murderer's (Sam West)victim. "Jo "(FP) played the psychologist.Trevor Eve as the detective never disappoints. An excellent series if you get BBC America.

9th ANNUAL SCREEN ACTORS GUILD AWARDS� NOMINATIONS THEATRICAL MOTION PICTURES For Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Leading Role Adrien Brody / THE PIANIST � Wladyslaw Szpilman (Focus Features) Nicolas Cage / ADAPTATION � Charlie Kaufman/Donald Kaufman (Columbia Pictures) Daniel Day-Lewis / GANGS OF NEW YORK � Bill "The Butcher" Cutting (Miramax Films) Richard Gere / CHICAGO � Billy Flynn (Miramax Films) Jack Nicholson / ABOUT SCHMIDT � Warren Schmidt (New Line Cinema) For Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Leading Role Salma Hayek / FRIDA � Frida Kahlo (Miramax Films) Nicole Kidman / THE HOURS � Virginia Woolf (Paramount Pictures/Miramax Films) Diane Lane / UNFAITHFUL � Connie Sumner 20th Century Fox Julianne Moore / FAR FROM HEAVEN � Cathy Whitaker (Focus Features) Ren�e Zellweger / CHICAGO � Roxie Hart (Miramax Films) For Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Supporting Role Chris Cooper / ADAPTATION � Guy LaRoche (Columbia Pictures) Ed Harris / THE HOURS � Richard Brown (Paramount Pictures) Alfred Molina / FRIDA � Diego Rivera (Miramax Films) Dennis Quaid / FAR FROM HEAVEN � Frank Whitaker (Miramax Films) Christopher Walken / CATCH ME IF YOU CAN � Frank Abagnale (Dreamworks SKG) For Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Supporting Role Kathy Bates / ABOUT SCHMIDT � Roberta Hertzel (New Line Cinema) Julianne Moore / THE HOURS � Laura Brown (Paramount Pictures) Michelle Pfeiffer / WHITE OLEANDER � Ingrid Magnussen ( Warner Bros.) Queen Latifah / CHICAGO � Matron Mama Morton (Miramax Fillms) Catherine Zeta-Jones / CHICAGO � Velma Kelly (Miramax Fillms) For Outstanding Performance by the Cast of a Theatrical Motion Picture ADAPTATION (Columbia Pictures) Nicolas Cage - Charlie Kaufman /Donald Kaufman Chris Cooper - John LaRoche Brian Cox - Robert McKee Cara Seymour - Amelia Meryl Streep - Susan Orlean Tilda Swinton - Valerie CHICAGO (Miramax Films) Christine Baranski - Mary Sunshine Taye Diggs - Bandleader Colm Feore - Harrison Richard Gere - Billy Flynn Mya Harrison - Mona Lucy Liu - Kitty Baxter Queen Latifah - Matron Mama Morton John C. Reilly - Amos Hart Dominic West - Fred Casely Ren�e Zellweger - Roxie Hart Catherine Zeta-Jones - Velma Kelly THE HOURS (Paramount Pictures / Miramax Films) Toni Collette - Kitty Claire Danes - Julia Vaughan Jeff Daniels - Louis Waters Stephen Dillane - Leonard Woolf Ed Harris - Richard Brown Allison Janney - Sally Lester Nicole Kidman - Virginia Woolf Julianne Moore - Laura Brown John C. Reilly - Dan Brown Miranda Richardson - Vanessa Bell Meryl Streep - Clarissa Vaughan THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS (New Line Cinema) Sean Astin - Sam Cate Blanchett - Galadriel Orlando Bloom - Legolas Billy Boyd - Pippin Brad Dourif - Wormtongue Bernard Hill - Theoden Christopher Lee - Saruman Ian McKellen - Gandalf Dominic Monaghan - Merry Viggo Mortensen - Aragorn Miranda Otto - Eowyn John Rhys-Davies - Gimli Andy Serkis - Gollum Liv Tyler - Arwen Hugo Weaving - Elrond David Wenham - Faramir Elijah Wood - Frodo Baggins MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING (Playtone / IFC / Gold Circle Films / HBO) Gia Carides - Nikki Michael Constantine - Gus Portokalos John Corbett - Ian Miller Joey Fatone - Angelo Lainie Kazan - Maria Portokalos Andrea Martin - Aunt Voula Nia Vardalos - Toula Portokalos PRIMETIME TELEVISION For Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Television Movie or Miniseries Albert Finney / THE GATHERING STORM � Winston Churchill (HBO) Brad Garrett / GLEASON � Jackie Gleason (CBS) Sean Hayes / MARTIN & LEWIS � Jerry Lewis (CBS) William H. Macy / DOOR TO DOOR � Bill Porter (TNT) John Turturro / MONDAY NIGHT MAYHEM � Howard Cosell (TNT) For Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Television Movie or Miniseries Kathy Bates / MY SISTER�S KEEPER - Christine (CBS) Stockard Channing / THE MATTHEW SHEPARD STORY � Judy Shepard (NBC) Helen Mirren / DOOR TO DOOR - Irene Porter (TNT) Vanessa Redgrave / THE GATHERING STORM � Clemmie Churchill (HBO) Uma Thurman / HYSTERICAL BLINDNESS - Debby (HBO) For Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Drama Series Michael Chiklis / THE SHIELD � Det. Vic Mackey (FX) James Gandolfini / THE SOPRANOS � Tony Soprano (HBO) Martin Sheen / THE WEST WING � President Josiah Bartlet (NBC) Kiefer Sutherland / 24 � Jack Bauer (FOX) Treat Williams / EVERWOOD � Dr. Andrew Brown (The WB) For Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Drama Series Lorraine Bracco / THE SOPRANOS - Dr. Jennifer Melfi (HBO) Amy Brenneman / JUDGING AMY � Judge Amy Gray (CBS) Edie Falco / THE SOPRANOS - Carmela Soprano (HBO) Allison Janney / THE WEST WING - C.J. Cregg (NBC) Lily Tomlin / THE WEST WING � Deborah Fiderer (NBC) For Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Comedy Series Sean Hayes / WILL & GRACE - Jack McFarland (NBC) Matt Le Blanc / FRIENDS � Joey Tribbiani (NBC) Bernie Mac / THE BERNIE MAC SHOW - Bernie Mac (FOX) Ray Romano / EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND � Ray Barone (CBS) Tony Shalhoub / MONK � Adrian Monk (USA) For Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Comedy Series Jennifer Aniston / FRIENDS - Rachel Green (NBC) Kim Cattrall / SEX AND THE CITY - Samantha Jones (HBO) Patricia Heaton / EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND - Debra Barone (CBS) Jane Kaczmarek / MALCOLM IN THE MIDDLE - Lois (FOX) Megan Mullally / WILL & GRACE - Karen Walker (NBC) For Outstanding Performance by an Ensemble in a Drama Series 24 (FOX) Reiko Aylesworth - Michelle Dessler Xander Berkeley - George Mason Carlos Bernard - Tony Almeida Sarah Clarke - Nina Myers Elisha Cuthbert - Kim Bauer Dennis Haysbert - David Palmer Leslie Hope - Teri Bauer Penny Johnson Jerald - Sherry Palmer Kiefer Sutherland - Jack Bauer Sarah Wynter - Kate Warner CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION (CBS) Gary Dourdan - Warrick Brown George Eads - Nick Stokes Jorja Fox - Sara Sidle Paul Guilfoyle - Jim Brass Robert David Hall - Dr. Robbins Marg Helgenberger - Catherine Willows William Petersen - Gil Grissom Eric Szmanda - Greg Sanders SIX FEET UNDER (HBO) Lauren Ambrose - Claire Fisher Frances Conroy - Ruth Fisher Rachel Griffiths - Brenda Chenowith Michael C. Hall - David Fisher Peter Krause - Nate Fisher Freddy Rodriguez - Federico Diaz Mathew St. Patrick - Keith Charles THE SOPRANOS (HBO) Lorraine Bracco - Dr. Jennifer Melfi Federico Castelluccio - Furio Giunta Dominic Chianese - Corrado �Junior� Soprano Vincent Curatola - Johnny �Sack� Sacrimoni Drea De Matteo - Adriana La Cerva Edie Falco - Carmela Soprano James Gandolfini - Tony Soprano Robert Iler - Anthony Soprano, Jr. Michael Imperioli - Christopher Moltisanti Joe Pantoliano - Ralph Cifaretto Steven R. Schirripa - Bobby �Bacala� Baccilieri Jamie-Lynn Sigler - Meadow Soprano Tony Sirico - Paulie �Walnuts� Gualtieri Aida Turturro - Janice Soprano Steven Van Zandt - Silvio Dante John Ventimiglia - Artie Bucco THE WEST WING (NBC) Stockard Channing - Dr. Abigail Bartlet Dul� Hill - CharlieYoung Allison Janney - C.J. Cregg Rob Lowe - Sam Seaborn Joshua Malina - Will Bailey Janel Moloney - Donna Moss Mary-Louise Parker - Amy Gardner Richard Schiff - Toby Ziegler Martin Sheen - President Josiah Bartlet John Spencer - Leo McGarry Lily Tomlin - Debbie Federer Bradley Whitford - Josh Lyman For Outstanding Performance by an Ensemble in a Comedy Series EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND (CBS) Peter Boyle - Frank Barone Brad Garrett - Robert Barone Patricia Heaton - Debra Barone Doris Roberts - Marie Barone Ray Romano - Raymond Barone Madylin Sweetin - Ally Barone FRASIER (NBC) Peri Gilpin - Roz Doyle Kelsey Grammer - Dr. Frasier Crane Jane Leeves - Daphne Moon John Mahoney - Martin Crane David Hyde Pierce - Dr. Niles Crane FRIENDS (NBC) Jennifer Aniston - Rachel Green Courteney Cox Arquette - Monica Geller Bing Lisa Kudrow - Phoebe Buffay Matt Le Blanc - Joey Tribbiani Matthew Perry - Chandler Bing David Schwimmer - Ross Geller SEX AND THE CITY (HBO) Kim Cattrall - Samantha Jones Kristin Davis - Charlotte York Cynthia Nixon - Miranda Hobbes Sarah Jessica Parker - Carrie Bradshaw WILL & GRACE (NBC) Sean Hayes - Jack McFarland Eric McCormack - Will Truman Debra Messing - Grace Adler Megan Mullally - Karen Walker Screen Actors Guild 39th Annual Life Achievement Award Clint Eastwood

Evelyn: How I wish my cable company carried BBC America. I am so deprived - can't see that and no Yankees again for another season. It is too much to bear! War Stories on NBC tonight got a pretty good review in the NY Times. Nice to see this: "...Fifteen years of female empowerment have had their effect: the British actress Louise Lombard ("The House of Eliott") plays Gayle Phelan, a beautiful news magazine reporter who is both a driven, dedicated reporter and blithely promiscuous. Gayle is a new breed of woman on network television, and entirely likable: a whore with a heart of stone."

Thanks, Mari! I can't believe they ignored Meryl Steep!!!

Wow!! Those SAGs noms are shockers. Meryl Streep's been totally overlooked, though they've given Julianne Moore two nods, doing that bizarre supporting thing for The Hours. And there were lots of rumors (and probably campaigning) for Michelle Pfeiffer. Had to pick myself off the floor for including the MBFGW in the category of Outstanding Cast, their equivalent of Best Picture, in lieu of GONY. Everytime I think of people like Andrea Martin, I don't think acting, but overacting. Bleech!!! Actors consititute the largest branch of the Academy.

And they've ignored Jeremy for Martin & Lewis. Interesting how all five male roles were biographical.

Doesn't SAG do directors? Well, at least "Catch Me if You Can" isn't on the list of "Best Anything". Entertaining film, but Best??? I feel Sam Mendes has been sandbagged by Dreamworks who is now pushing its owner(surprise , surprise!) Stephen Speilberg's two movies. Has anyone seen Nicholas Nickelby?I haven't seen it listed on any list. One would think BAFTA would give it an 'Honourable Mention'. I tell 'ya costume dramas & classics have been relegated to television.

SAG (Screen Actors Guild) is acting only. Nicholas Nickleby was a GG nominee.

(Evelyn) Well, at least "Catch Me if You Can" isn't on the list of "Best Anything". Entertaining film, but Best??? Not totally shut out.... Christopher Walken / CATCH ME IF YOU CAN � Frank Abagnale (Dreamworks SKG) For Outstanding Performance by the Cast of a Theatrical Motion Picture THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS (New Line Cinema) Big waste of a nomination spot. I thought at the time I saw White Oleander, MP would be up for awards too.

(Dorine) For Outstanding Performance by the Cast of a Theatrical Motion Picture THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS (New Line Cinema) Big waste of a nomination spot. That's just your opinion, I thought LoTR:TT was very good. Granted haven't seen ANY of the movies that were nom'd, but hopefully will see Chicago on Friday night.

(Karen)I know, am truly a purist. Leave great things alone!! Can't agree with you more. When will they ever learn perfection can only be botched up, not equalled or better. And who's going to be Birdie, EnanM? Britany would have to take alot of lessons from AnnMargaret. Please spare us the agony. Thanks for the SAG noms Mari. Interesting that the Shield got Emmy, GG but no ensemble nom from SAG. Saw Me and Mrs Jones Sunday. Did anyone else think male lead was a miscasting? I just couldn't buy their relationship. Thought Goodall was vg though. Saw Suzanna Harker in a Mystery series recently on PBS. Filmed I think 3-4 years ago. Very attractive and good portrayal. Saw Carmen du Sautoy in a Midsomer Murders last week on A&E portraying what else, the "older woman" seducing the "younger man". Good job and great fun to watch.

(KathyF) I was glad to see Toni Collette nommed for supportint actress in AAB. I thought she was wonderful in it. Good to see her get some recognition. Some obtuse sentiments from a subjective film viewer... Watched AAB last night and enjoyed it. Agree Toni Collette was wonderful, but (here it comes, and I can't seem to break through to objectivity..) really liked FP so much more...

(Murph)How I wish my cable company carried BBC America. I am so deprived Murph, honestly, you're not missing much. Their programming--comprised largely of those shows where they re-plant the garden or redecorate your home--leaves much to be desired. The best BBC shows get shown to us on PBS or A&E. (Karen)Meryl Streep's been totally overlooked, though they've given Julianne Moore two nods, doing that bizarre supporting thing for The Hours. That's how the studios are promoting JM--Best Actress for Far From Heaven, but Supporting for The Hours. This way (so the reasoning goes) she can get a BA nod, while not hurting Nic or Meryl's chances for one. Bizarre that they've overlooked Meryl altogether--for Hours and Adaptation. And where the heck is Paul Newman for Road To Perdition??? Greek Wedding gets an ensemble nod ahead of that???? I should keep in mind that the SAG membership--many tens of thousands strong--includes the guy who waits tables asnd doesn't make a living from acting. I guess they like the rags to riches story behind Greek Wedding. (Dorine)Big waste of a nomination spot. I agree. Can't they give them a Really Really Special Award that would cover next year's movie too, and be done with it?;-) (Pam)Saw Me and Mrs Jones Sunday. Did anyone else think male lead was a miscasting?I just couldn't buy their relationship Neither could I. Robson Green--reptilian, IMO. I thought the show stunk. Talk about stretching credulity. TV Guide said it made Hugh Grant movies look like Checkhov.;-)

(Laura) That's just your opinion, I thought LoTR:TT was very good. Granted haven't seen ANY of the movies that were nom'd, but hopefully will see Chicago on Friday night. I didn't say I didn't like LOTR:TT. Matter of fact, despite thinking it was 20-30 mins too long, I enjoyed it a *great* deal more than the first one. I only went because it was a screening and my friend was really hyped to see it. But I think there were movies that would be a better choice....Road to Perdition for instance. Next year the LOTR movie will get tons of awards to cover it for all three. (Mari) Bizarre that they've overlooked Meryl altogether--for Hours and Adaptation. I was shocked by that as well. While I loved her in Adaptation, I remember saying after seeing The Hours I thought it was her best role in a long time and she should get a nom. What do I know? I thought MP should get one too. Course that was before all the year-end stuff came out. I should keep in mind that the SAG membership--many tens of thousands strong--includes the guy who waits tables asnd doesn't make a living from acting. The nominations are done with a random group of 2100 and now the entire guild of 98,000 will vote for the award. Least that's what I read in Variety today. Can't remember if the 2100 were all or any Academy members. LOL, Mari. I suggested Road to Perdition above before reading your post. (Pam) Saw Me and Mrs Jones Sunday Can you say MT Lite?

I hope I'm not alone in thinking this, but I've been watching JM act since she played "Frannie" on "As The World Turns". I found her whole performance in FFH forced and fake, seemingly. I've seen her do much better. Of course, I wasn't that crazy about the whole movie. I know it was supposed to be sort of a surreal episode of "Donna Reed".. LOL.. but, still... I didn't like it. I wasn't impressed with DQ, either. He was much better in "The Rookie" imho. My husband is a huge Tolkien fan from WAY back, and he practically salivated while waiting for TT to come out, and he's done nothing but complain since. LOL! He's really down on Jackson and the whole project at this point, and I can't help but think his "drifting from the book" will hurt their chances greatly. However, most of you have much more insight into these things.. so, I dunno.

(MariaT) Some obtuse sentiments from a subjective film viewer... Watched AAB last night and enjoyed it. Agree Toni Collette was wonderful, but (here it comes, and I can't seem to break through to objectivity..) really liked FP so much more... So do I! FP is one of my favorite movies, to the extent that it apparently has a permanent spot on my DVD changer. I enjoyed AAB, but IMO there's no comparison. Of course, part of that could be due to FP's male lead. ;-) (Pam) Saw Me and Mrs Jones Sunday. Did anyone else think male lead was a miscasting?I just couldn't buy their relationship (Mari) Neither could I. Robson Green--reptilian, IMO. I thought the show stunk. Talk about stretching credulity. TV Guide said it made Hugh Grant movies look like Checkhov.;-) Couldn't they have gotten someone with at least an iota of sex appeal? Would the PM take such a risk for that?! LOL the TV Guide quote!

Saw Suzanna Harker in a Mystery series recently on PBS. Filmed I think 3-4 years ago. Very attractive and good portrayal. Saw Carmen du Sautoy in a Midsomer Murders last week on A&E portraying what else, the "older woman" seducing the "younger man". Good job and great fun to watch. That was Caroline Harker on Mystery the other night. Her sister.

Heh, Caroline Harker is married to Anthony Calf who played Col. Fitzwilliam in (duh!) P&P. Thought that was interesting.

(KathyF) LOL the TV Guide quote! It was a hoot, but ended with this: "There's a sweet plot twist at the end, but by then you'll be wishing you had rented "Notting Hill" instead. Read that to Ev over the phone, we both laughed but still watched it. What else was there? A&E's attempt at counterprogramming with a Murder She Wrote marathon? ;-)

(Murph)How I wish my cable company carried BBC America. I am so deprived (Mari)Murph, honestly, you're not missing much. Their programming--comprised largely of those shows where they re-plant the garden or redecorate your home--leaves much to be desired. LOL. Those DIY shows are v. popular with the young set.Isn't "Changing Rooms" where a neighbor decorates your house in a weekend hot on TV now? Pam) Saw Me and Mrs Jones Sunday (Dorine)Can you say MT Lite? Contrived, I think. MT trying to become more homogenized and not just stuffy Brit costume dramas. (Pam)Saw Me and Mrs Jones Sunday. Did anyone else think male lead was a miscasting?I just couldn't buy their relationship (Mari)Neither could I. Robson Green--reptilian, IMO. I thought the show stunk. Strictly soap, but a good option to the Super Bowl for me. BTW how many MT or PBS shows for that matter have you seen on the TV awards list? No one but us and the gang at Pemberley watches those anymore. Too much Sunday night competition.Can you blame EXon for dumping it?

LOL. Those DIY shows are v. popular with the young set.Isn't "Changing Rooms" where a neighbor decorates your house in a weekend hot on TV now? And with the older set. A friend told me that she knew that she and her husband were on the way down when they found themselves videoing *Changing Rooms" when they were out for the evening ;-)

Contrived, I think. MT trying to become more homogenized and not just stuffy Brit costume dramas. ] Well the head of PBS did say she wanted more American programming and not a lot of period/literary stuff.

Finally got to see Bend It Like Beckham last night. Adorably funny and well-received by the audience. I hope it gets around and isn't viewed too parochially.

From Empire: Peter Passes 29/01/2003 Now, you could accuse him of quite audacious cheek, but we here at Empire Online admire Peter O'Toole all the more after he declared that he wasn't sure he wanted an honorary Oscar this year after all. Announced only a couple of days ago as the revered recipient of the Honorary Oscar at next month's Oscar ceremony, O'Toole has sent an open hand-written letter to the Academy big cheeses stating that he was � and this is a perfect O'Toole touch � "enchanted" at their gesture but added politely that since he is "still in the game and might win the lovely bugger outright, would the Academy please defer the honour until I am 80?" Academy President Frank Pierson rather pointedly told Variety, "We will have the Oscar for him and if he cares to pick it up, that would be great," adding that the Academy is "bemused and sorry" but "it would be great if he decides to change his mind and join us." Pierson even went as far as sending a letter to the eccentric actor saying, "The board unanimously and enthusiastically voted you the honorary award because you've earned and deserved it. As to being 'in the game,' nobody ever thought you were out of it. The award is for achievement and contribution to the art of the motion picture, not for retirement." He also pointed out that Paul Newman and Henry Fonda, for example, went away with competitive Oscars after receiving the honorary awards so O'Toole shouldn�t feel he has been completely put out to pasture. This is, indeed, uncharted territory for the Academy used to teary acceptance speeches combined with an iron grip from the stars it honours. In the past, winning thespian types such as Marlon Brando and George C. Scott have refused the Oscar, but no honorary winner has ever declined the prize. O'Toole's specially inscribed statuette will, however, be waiting for him at the 23 March ceremony and will be safely ensconced in the Academy vault if he doesn't show. As Pierson's letter told O'Toole, the little bronze man "will be at the Academy for you to pick up when you're 80 or whenever you're ready."

O'Toole has sent an open hand-written letter to the Academy big cheeses stating that he was � and this is a perfect O'Toole touch � "enchanted" at their gesture but added politely that since he is "still in the game and might win the lovely bugger outright, would the Academy please defer the honour until I am 80?" ROTF!! I have always been "enchanted" with that man. Where the hell has he been?

(Pam)Saw Me and Mrs Jones Sunday. Did anyone else think male lead was a miscasting?I just couldn't buy their relationship Okay. I seem to be in the minority here but I fairly enjoyed it. I still remember *fondly* RG as the lover of his surgeon boss's wife in a miniseries. I think he does good in the repressed, horny guy attracted to somebody he can't have. He's Darcyish to me in that way, except he gets the girl right away (the modern twist I guess) and boy can he kiss onscreen! The way he lowers his eyes to soften them is something Ralph Fiennes only wishes he could do. Before this turns into RG drool, there were weak points to Me & Mrs Jones but I laughed out loud a couple of times when RG and the real fundraiser were onscreen together...

(Odile) boy can he kiss onscreen! Whoa ..I noticed that.And I thought Caroline Goodall (whom I did not like in SLOW) rose to the occasion as the PM. The way he lowers his eyes to soften them is something Ralph Fiennes only wishes he could do. Kristin Scott Thomas would disagree. In a Vogue (Uk) interview she ranked Rafe as # 1 in the smooch category. Also ,Mari...re: BBC America....you no like-a Graham Norton;-)))

(Evelyn)Isn't "Changing Rooms" where a neighbor decorates your house in a weekend hot on TV now? I don't have a problem with these shows in short doses, but BBCA has made them a cornerstone of their programming. Plus, we already have similar shows here (which are just as dreary). It's the repetitive nature of the programming that bothers me. On the night in question, there were 3 episodes of Ground Force, one of Changing Rooms. Tonight's line-up of hits includes three back to back episodes of Keeping Up Appearances. I've seen these shows many times over already on PBS. KUP has been around since the Nixon administration.;-) I don't fault the BBC, but rather I blame whomever is in charge on this side of the pond for purchasing the programming. They obviously have no budget if all they can provide are DIY and reality-based shows (very cheap to produce) and re-runs of 30-year old sitcoms. As I said before, most of the good British shows are already on PBS, A&E, and, increasingly, Bravo. Any my faves are the co-productions with HBO, such as Conspiracy and The Gathering Storm.

(Odile) boy can he kiss onscreen! (Evelyn) Whoa ..I noticed that. Whoa....I noticed that, too. Was thinking as I watched it that I think every actor in England could be giving Colin some pointers....or rather, encouragement for "proper" kissing technique. ;-)

(Moon) Saw " Confessions of a Dangerous Mind" last night. * Spoiler* Question: How did GC die? He bled to death, but the blood was leaking from the shoe. Dorine? I (and a few others) don't feel that GC's death was literally right there at the pool. Nor in such a manner as he would have blood leaking from the shoe. Yes the implication later was that JR killed him. It was just an ambiguous, stylishly set-up scene. Would love to know what movie/director that shot eminated from if not himself. Apparently it didn't occur to anyone there to ask about that scene specifically, unless it was someone not called on. Was that helpful at all? Any other opinions? I loved this movie, despite the over stylishness, especially the use of music. And SR was fantastic!

(Dorine), Apparently it didn't occur to anyone there to ask about that scene specifically, unless it was someone not called on. LOL! Of course, I would have! It was just an ambiguous, stylishly set-up scene. Doesn't cut it. That must be studied a bit further. Isn't "Changing Rooms" where a neighbor decorates your house in a weekend hot on TV now? I love this show. It has inspired me to do some outrageous things in my house. I don't care for ground force, they are too pedestrian. I would agree that BBC/America is not what I thought it would be. I was hoping for a 24 hour period drama channel. ;-)

This and That: Evelyn: Mari)Neither could I. Robson Green--reptilian, IMO. I thought the show stunk. Strictly soap, but a good option to the Super Bowl for me Ev, Green is, if not reptilian, very tiny! Remember when people thought Peter Firth was Colin's brother? I gave up on the Super Bowl at the half, and I enjoyed the PBS show as a diversion. What I am looking forward to is the upcoming Edward Fox and Michael Kitchen detective series. Kitchen is one of my favs. He was the third person in Reckless, speaking of Robson. Francesca Annis could tell us which was the best kisser, Green or Ralph! As a lunch-time pleasure these past few days, I have just rewatched the entire Jewel in the Crown series (Which I bought years ago). How I love it still! I am completely taken over by Hari Kumar, Daphne Manners, Barbie Batchelor, Sarah Layton and (sigh) Guy Perron. Ronald Merrick remains one of the creepiest bad guys around. Wish they would show this one again on PBS or A&E.

This is laugh-out-loud funny. Something for you LOTR fans (*snort*): By Dave Barry -- Miami Herald - Published January 26, 2003 I finally saw the new Lord of the Rings movie, "Lord of the Rings II: A LOT More Stuff Happens." It's a tad on the long side (three days) but I am not complaining. My eyeballs were literally riveted to the screen, by literal rivets, from the moment I sat down until the moment I lost all sensation in my lower body. Yes, this is a classic movie, the kind that makes you laugh; makes you cry; makes you wonder, over and over, if this would be a good time to go to the bathroom. Above all, it's a movie that makes you think about the issues raised by the plot, the main issue being: What the heck IS the plot? I say this because it's a very complicated story, with numerous subplots and 11,000 major characters, most of whom have hard-to-remember names like "Flagodirt" or "Grempkin." So today, as service to all of you who were confused by this great movie, I present: Simplified screenplay for "Lord of the Rings II." Scene 1 Frodo: Darn! I still have this darned ring that I got in the first movie! Samwise: The ring with the terrible power that causes everyone who comes near it to over-act? Frodo: Yes! And to destroy it, we must walk, slowly, all the way across New Zealand! Samwise: Who will guide us? Frodo: How about a reptilian computer-generated creature with a bad comb-over? Samwise: Dick Cheney's in this movie? Gollum: Very funny, Hobbitt-breath. Scene 2 Aragorn: Well, my two trusty companions -- Legolas, the Strangely Tall Elf; and Gimli, the Comic Relief Dwarf -- in our subplot, we are pursuing Merry and Pippin, who have been captured by Orcs, and now we find ourselves in the Kingdom of Rohan, ruled by King Theoden, whose daughter, Eowyn, will become my second love interest once the king is released from the spell cast by his trusted counselor, Grima Wormtongue, who is in league with the evil wizard Saruman! Legolas: I have no idea what you're talking about. Aragorn: Me either. I'm just reading the script. Gimli: Well, I'm really short! (Laughter) Aragorn: But enough explanatory dialogue. It's time for one of the estimated 17 big sword-clanging battles with hideous computer-generated monsters who always outnumber us by the thousands, although we defeat them every time, because we are courageous heroes! Legolas: Also, they have the combat skills of alfalfa. Monsters: Arrrrrr. Swords: CLANG! CLANG! CLANG! CLANG! Scene 3 Merry: Pippin, we escaped the Orcs, and now we are being carried around by talking trees! Pippin: Apparently, the audience will swallow anything! Tree: It gets worse! Later on, we engage in branch-to-hand combat! Scene 4 Monsters: Arrrrrr Swords: CLANG! CLANG! CLANG! CLANG! Scene 5 Frodo: How come, if I'm the protagonist, Lord Aragorn has TWO love interests, and I'm stuck in a subplot with Dick Cheney? Gollum: Maybe it's because your big hairy feet make you look like you're wearing dead weasels. Scene 6 Aragorn: Well, Legolas and Gimli, with the help of Gandalf the White, formerly Gandalf the Grey, also known as Gandalf the Beige, we have defeated the Uruk-hai in a giant computer-generated battle. Now we must make haste to the Really Big Rock of Karambador, before the forces of Ba'Zoot, led by the evil King Weltpimple, conquer the Mullions of Gneep and obtain the Remote Control Unit of Doom! Legolas: Now you're just making stuff up. Aragorn: Well, it's not as stupid as the kung-fu trees. Gimli: I'm still short! (Laughter) Scene 7 Frodo: UH-oh! The movie is over, and I still have this darned ring! Do you realize what that means? Samwise: That "Weasel Feet" would be a good name for a rock band? Frodo: Yes, as would "Kung Fu Trees" and "Combat Alfalfa." But my point is that the forces of Evil have been let loose upon the land, which means soon there will be ... Samwise: No! Not that! Frodo: Yes. Another sequel. Monsters: Arrrrrr. About the Writer --------------------------- Dave Barry is a columnist for the Miami Herald. Write to him c/o the Miami Herald, One Herald Plaza, Miami, FL 33132.

it's a movie that makes you think about the issues raised by the plot, the main issue being: What the heck IS the plot? LOL! It was one interminable string of battle scenes to me. Not much else. Kung Fu Trees and Overacting Actors ;-) RG: I thought his biggest claims to fame were his intense blue eyes and propensity to drop trou. ;-)

(Mary Murphy) As a lunch-time pleasure these past few days, I have just rewatched the entire Jewel in the Crown series (Which I bought years ago). How I love it still! I am completely taken over by Hari Kumar, Daphne Manners, Barbie Batchelor, Sarah Layton and (sigh) Guy Perron. Ronald Merrick remains one of the creepiest bad guys around. Wish they would show this one again on PBS or A&E. IMO one of the best miniseries ever! Excellent from start to finish, and I agree, Merrick is marvelously frightening! Thought I had it somewhere, but upon searching for it recently I discovered I apparently own the books, but not the tapes. It deserves to be broadcast again.

(Laura) That was Caroline Harker on Mystery the other night. Her sister. I agree saw that one Monday night too. Barbara Leigh Hunt (?) was in that one too, as was Mr. Herst. The one with Suzanna takes place in Africa where she's a bush piolot. Two different shows. The cable station TLC shows daily the American counterpart Trading Spaces where friends do a makeover in each others homes with $1,000 budget and a designer. Also there's While You Were Out where mate or housemate gets rid of partner and makesover a room. Surprise. Both taken from British counterpart.Actually they're not bad. Have learned alot of decorating techniques but draw the line at grass on walls and in rooms.

Mystery solved. What a bunch of screw-ups at Sony. Streep's SAG Snafu Wednesday January 29 3:30 PM ET We're guessing the hours are numbered for the Sony employee who screwed up Meryl Streep's shot at Screen Actors Guild ( news - web sites) Awards glory this year. Eyebrows around Hollywood arched yesterday when the acclaimed actress was not nominated for SAG Awards for her supporting role in Adaptation or her lead role in The Hours. A double nominee at the Golden Globes, where she won Best Supporting Actress for Adaptation and picked up a Best Actress nod for The Hours, Streep had been considered a shoo-in to repeat at the SAGs. But--in a shocker--she didn't. Seems an employee foul-up at Sony, the studio behind Adaptation, is at the root of the problem. An unnamed staffer submitted Streep in the wrong category for her role as author Susan Orlean in Spike Jonze ( news)'s critically acclaimed film. She was placed in the Best Actress category when the ballots mailed last month, rather than Supporting Actress, and was thus up against herself for The Hours, which was produced by Paramount and Miramax. Reps for the studios and Streep's own publicist say the snafu most likely cost her a nomination for either film. "It's possible that's what happened," Streep's rep, Lois Smith, tells the Los Angeles Times. For its part, Sony tried to rectify the problem by offering to reprint and mail the ballots at their expense, but SAG officials quickly nixed that plan, saying it would set a bad precedent. "It was an unfortunate mistake," Sony spokesman Steve Elzer tells the Times. "But it should not take anything away from her remarkable performance in the film." This isn't the first time a studio screwed up an actor's shot at a SAG Award. Last year, Golden Globe and Oscar winner Jennifer Connelly ( news) lost out on a nomination for her supporting role in A Beautiful Mind when Universal staffers accidentally entered her in the Lead Actress race, where she received a nomination but ultimately lost to Halle Berry ( news) in Monster's Ball. Benicio Del Toro ( news) was luckier--he was submitted and won in SAG's Lead Actor race in 2001 for his turn in Traffic besting eventual Best Actor Oscar winner Russell Crowe ( news). Del Toro bagged a Globe and Oscar as a supporting actor. In spite of the nomination loss, it's not like Streep will end the 2003 awards season empty-handed. Aside from her Golden Globe, Tinseltown pundits say she is still considered a frontrunner for Oscar nominations in both categories. Some studio-types, however, say her Oscar chances may be hurt by the SAG screw up, but that remains to be seen. Academy Award nominations will be announced February 11. While she's not up for any individual honors at the 2003 SAG Awards, Streep could still collect a trophy, since she's part of The Hours' cast up for Best Ensemble. Without Streep for competition, the SAG Supporing Actress field lines up like this: Kathy Bates ( news) for About Schmidt, Julianne Moore ( news) for The Hours, Michelle Pfeiffer ( news) for White Oleander and Queen Latifah and Catherine Zeta-Jones ( news) for Chicago. Best Actress are: Salma Hayek ( news) for Frida, Diane Lane ( news) for Unfaithful, Julianne Moore in Far from Heaven, Ren�e Zellweger for Chicago and Streep's The Hours cohort Nicole Kidman ( news)--who incidentally is probably the one who had the most to gain from the mistake because she won't have to compete with her costar. The Screen Actor's Guild Awards, honoring both TV and film and voted on by the 98,000 members of the actor's union, will air from the Shrine Auditorium March 9 on TNT at 8 p.m. E!'s exclusive red-carpet coverage begins at 4 p.m.

Wow, knew there had to be something bizarre going on behind the scenes. The shut-out was illogical. In spite of the nomination loss, it's not like Streep will end the 2003 awards season empty-handed. Aside from her Golden Globe, Tinseltown pundits say she is still considered a frontrunner for Oscar nominations in both categories. Some studio-types, however, say her Oscar chances may be hurt by the SAG screw up, but that remains to be seen. Hurt???? Could these "insiders" be more idiotic? She's a shoe-in for the Oscar, given the publicity this screwup will have generated.

(Me) It was just an ambiguous, stylishly set-up scene. (Moon) Doesn't cut it. That must be studied a bit further. Will be speaking with my movie class teacher on Friday and will ask him. He's known GC for years. Will see if he has any insight...or can get some from somewhere/someone ;-) Speaking of the class....Chuck Barris was the guest last night. What an adorable man. Extrememly articulate and self-effacing. Went through some really tough patches in his life (never read his books). Most recently dealing with the death of his daughter from an OD and fighting lung cancer. On the upside, married his wife (4th I think ;)) sometime in the last couple of years after a blind date. Says she's his soul mate. Awwwww. Started chatting up a woman (guest of a classmember) who claimed to be a Chuck Barris groupie.....go figure! She came only to see him, but then was too terrified to say anything to him when I pointed out he was sitting in the back of the theater, talking occasionally to someone, and seemingly quite approachable. I practically took her by the hand to go talk to him. I didn't go speak to him, but watched her go walk right by him at first, then finally circle around and speak to him. When she got back to her seat behind me, she had tears rolling down her face and she was so glad she got to talk to him. At the end of the interview, our teacher presented him with a plaque of appreciation (my teacher is a big fan too apparently). A woman across the aisle from me started taking pictures then, and the teacher made her stop. Ironically the woman was one of the people who came with CB and was sitting next to his wife. Don't think the teacher picked up on that and CB didn't say anything.

"It was an unfortunate mistake," Sony spokesman Steve Elzer tells the Times. "But it should not take anything away from her remarkable performance in the film." Big of him to say so. I'm sure she's comforted by this.

(Dorine)....Chuck Barris was the guest last night. What an adorable man. My former boss was on The Gong Show. It says a lot about the man! He played the harmonica through various orifices...just so you know the caliber of people I work with...The reason he went to TGS was because he was a huge fan of CB. I found this all really amusing when he told me, but it appears that there are many 'groupies' out there!

Miami Herald"LOTR:Kung Fu Trees and ..."creature with Dick Cheney comb over"....11,000 characters...film lasting three days...!! *tears rolling down face*ROTF, Mari. (Pam)(Pam)Have learned alot of decorating techniques but draw the line at grass on walls and in rooms. I dunno, Pam...might make for a pretty good party;-) (Dorine)I practically took her by the hand to go talk to him. You made her day! We have a mentor in our midst. ..."It was an unfortunate mistake," Sony spokesman Steve Elzer tells the Times. "But it should not take anything away from her remarkable performance in the film." Sending Meryl my "give 'em the finger" smilie.

(Tress) My former boss was on The Gong Show. It says a lot about the man! He played the harmonica through various orifices...just so you know the caliber of people I work with... How funny is that? I'm surprised you could look at him with a straight face. Did he display his tallent in the office? I always liked him too. Saw him on recent talk shows. Very self effacing. Sorry to learn about his daughter, remember her too. And I will never forget "Palisades Park." One of my favorites then and now.

From Hello Online Newsletter: ED. note...I was disappointed in the last paragraph...Had a few thoughts of my own for Edward VIII. Just one, actually. 29 JANUARY 2003 American women seem to have a way of stealing English hearts. Gwyneth Paltrow, with her flawless home counties accent, has long been a darling of British cinema. And now she is to take on the roll of Wallis Simpson, the American divorcee who almost brought down the monarchy through her relationship with King Edward VIII. Edward was forced to abdicate in 1936 after his romance with Wallis sparked a huge controversy. He had only held the throne for 11 months when pressures from both the royal family and politicians resulted in him relinquishing it to George VI. Scriptwriter Heidi Wallis has revealed she is waiting for US and British intelligence documents to be made public before she puts the final touches to the screenplay. The secret reports on the couple have been locked away for 70 years, but are due to be made public on Thursday. "There are many gaps in our understanding of Wallis Simpson and Edward VIII because of the secrecy surrounding them," she said. "This is the last piece of the jigsaw." It has not yet been confirmed who will play Edward in the BBC production, which is to be entitled The American Woman. Frontrunners for the role are Band Of Brothers star Damian Lewis and Gosford Park's Tom Hollander.

(Linda) Had a few thoughts of my own for Edward VIII. Just one, actually. No. *thinking one more time* No. *Ok, once again. *No. ;-) Anyone see the other CF last night on Leno? Having just recovered from seeing HG on the night before (not a brain in her head), it was bleep city, and Jay was having such a good time. Even when Jeff Goldblum came out, it didn't stop; he couldn't believe it. I knew, when I saw the trailer, this film was going to do it for him. And tonight you'll all be treated to him at the premiere with Britney. Said his mum told him to stop using the F-word.

Anyone see the other CF last night on Leno? Such class. Breaks my heart to see people like this make millions of dollars. ;-) JG's face was a riot when CF would pop out another choice word. And HGm? not a brain in her head..... She'll be able to answer affirmatively during HS PR to the question.... Are there any similarities between you and your character?

I guess guys like girls like HG. Isn't her new boyfriend the guy who directed About a Boy? Looking forward to more insight on that scene, Dorine.

Isn't her new boyfriend the guy who directed About a Boy? One of them. ;-) What's awful is that both of the brothers seemed pretty intelligent, when I heard them. Had to laugh when she described her role in The Guru, which is a porn star. Talk about being stereotyped.

Well they haven't picked Edward yet, is there a hope that our CF could do it. IMO would certainly be better than what's opted for so far. Saw HG early this morning. IMO Acting should be easy for her as she seems to be portraying herself in majority of her roles. Personally don't get what all the excitement about the other CF is all about. Doesn't do anything for me.

(Pam) IMO would certainly be better than what's opted for so far. Watch out! That sounds like excommunication language to me.

(FanPam)Personally don't get what all the excitement about the other CF is all about. Doesn't do anything for me. Would someone please tell me who "the other CF" is? And - I would also like to se our CF play Edward. One can always hope....

And BBC has publicly announced Gwynnie isn't associated with the project: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=597&ncid=805&e=12&u=/nm/20030130/tv_nm/television_edward_dc

The sealed file on the Dukes of Windsor have been made public in England. Turns out Wallis was two timing him. How stupid is that?

The other CF is Colin Farrell.

(Moon) The sealed file on the Dukes of Windsor have been made public in England. Turns out Wallis was two timing him. How stupid is that? I did not know this! How sad is that?? Make the man give up the throne for you and then cheat on him? She sounds like she may have been high maintenance (probably ordered her salad dressing on the side). ;-) Who was the 'other man'? Does anyone know?

Talk about putting the *right* talent on a project! ;-) "Maid in Manhattan" screenwriter Kevin Wade has been tapped by Miramax Films to pen the mini-major's upcoming comedy "I Don't Know How She Does It." The big-screen adaptation of Allison Pearson's best-selling debut novel follows the day-to-day life of Kate Reddy, a successful investment banker who struggles to balance her high-powered career with an equally demanding role as a mom. Pearson based the novel on her own weekly columns for London's Daily Telegraph. Miramax said she also will be involved in the adaptation process.

Turns out Wallis was two timing him. Correction: she was 3-timing her husband. She was still married, but was having affairs with both Edward and some car salesman from the north of England. No evidence that she cheated on Edward after they married. But who cares, really . . . glad Gwynnie is not associated with the project; couldn't picture her as Wallis who was, let's face it, homely as sin. I guess guys like girls like HG. Isn't her new boyfriend the guy who directed About a Boy? LOL, shades of Natasha: "Amazing what some men find attractive." Correct about the boyfriend, Chris Weitz. He was with her at LaBoheme. Very cute, but looks about 20.

Here's the article. King Edward VIII files add to the royal legacy of love and scandal BY ALAN COWELL New York Times News Service LONDON - The prince nurtured a burning, hidden love that might block his way to the throne. His chosen one herself kept clandestine trysts. The secret police spied on all of them. And the government massaged the news media to sway public opinion. The events might have been taken from just about any of the recent annals of Britain's House of Windsor as Prince Charles, the heir to the throne, Camilla Parker-Bowles, his longtime love, and Diana Princess of Wales played out the acts of a tragedy that ended with Diana's death in a car crash in Paris in 1997. In fact, the events relate to another royal saga: the abdication of King Edward VIII in December 1936 to permit his marriage to his twice-divorced American mistress Wallis Warfield Simpson. That at least is the fairy-tale version. But what was not widely known to most Britons until now was that the unfolding romance between Edward and Simpson was closely monitored by detectives from the police Special Branch, who reported that she was two-timing the prince with Guy Marcus Trundle, ``a motor engineer and salesman.'' The police reports are part of a trove of 120 files that the British authorities in 1967 ordered sealed for 100 years. In 1999, secrecy rules changed, and the Public Records Office was ordered to open files not related to national security. FILLING THE GAPS They ''contain a wealth of detail that will fill many gaps in knowledge,'' said Susan Williams, a historian from the University of London. They may also deepen a view among some Britons that marital misbehavior is embedded in the monarchal genes. The story unfolded like this: Simpson met Edward well before his coronation in January 1936 and was granted a preliminary divorce from her second husband, Ernest Aldrich Simpson, in October of that year. In November 1936, the king expressed his desire to marry her but was told by government leaders that the public would not accept the marriage, prompting a constitutional crisis. The king offered a so-called morganatic marriage according to which Simpson would not have become queen. Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin rejected the proposal. In December 1936, after the news broke, the king abdicated and left the country for Austria. LATER MARRIED In June 1937, after Simpson's divorce was finalized, the ex-king -- now titled the duke of Windsor -- married her in France. Later that year, they traveled to Germany as guests of the Third Reich. According to the documents released on Wednesday, Simpson navigated a tricky course between her husband, Edward and her other lovers. ''Mrs. Simpson has also alleged that her husband is having her watched'' and ''in consequence she is very careful for the double purpose of keeping both POW and her husband in ignorance of her surreptitious love affairs,'' a police report said, using the initials to describe the Prince of Wales, as King Edward VIII was known before his coronation. ''Trundle is described as a very charming adventurer, very good looking, well bred and an excellent dancer,'' a Special Branch report said in July 1935, long before the crisis burst open. ``He meets Mrs. Simpson quite openly at informal social gatherings as a personal friend, but secret meetings are made by appointment when intimate relations take place.'' The documents also assert that Ernest Simpson agreed to a prearranged act of hotel room adultery in July 1936 to facilitate his divorce. The documents show that the royal family closed ranks against Simpson to prevent her from securing a royal title beyond duchess of Windsor and that the government was desperate to control the news media's coverage of the crisis. Baldwin apparently feared that his main opponent, Winston Churchill, would use public sympathy for the king to win political support, and felt ``the less opportunity for public discussion and debate, the better.''

(Mari) Correct about the boyfriend, Chris Weitz. He was with her at LaBoheme. Very cute, but looks about 20. She dated Heath Ledger for a while as well...seems she likes 'em young! Thanks for the article Moon! Very interesting...

Sort of makes you feel sorry for Edward after all this. Bullied by the government, cuckholded by Simpson, his relatives wanting nothing to do with either of them, suspected of being a Nazi sympathizer. No wonder he never looked happy in any of his pictures.

Correct about the boyfriend, Chris Weitz. He was with her at LaBoheme. Very cute, but looks about 20. ] Well the Weitz Brothers DID direct that horribly disgusting American Pie I&II, now there is an American Wedding coming out, where band camp girl marries pie humping guy.... (and people did copy this in real life???? how stupid???) Can you tell I really didn't like the American Pie movie? (i've only seen one, and it was MORE than enough for me); I don't care about Stifler's mom:)

According to the documents released on Wednesday, Simpson navigated a tricky course between her husband, Edward and her other lovers. I don't see why there's confusion. She "navigated a course between her husband (that's person # 1), Edward (person # 2) and her other lovers" (persons # who knows how many).;-) keeping both POW *and* her husband in ignorance of her surreptitious love affairs,'' a police report said, using the initials to describe the Prince of Wales, as King Edward VIII was known before his coronation. Seems clear to me.

More On Colin Farrell (IMO - There is difference between larrikins and thugs. Farrell DOES not appeal!) USA TODAY: Holy hormones! Pop princess Britney Spears (news) and Gaelic gigolo Colin Farrell (news) are Hollywood's hottest new item. And just when we were getting used to the idea of Britney and Limp Bizkit frontman Fred Durst and Farrell and seductive older woman Demi Moore (news). But that was so yesterday. Farrell, 26, and Spears, 21, made a grand red-carpet entrance at Tuesday's Hollywood premiere of The Recruit, which stars Farrell and Al Pacino (news) and opens Friday. They held hands for flashing cameras and TV crews. After the screening, Spears, wearing what could best be described as a camisole, hooked up again with Farrell at Chateau Marmont, where they snuggled and kissed into the wee hours. It wasn't their first date. On Saturday, the lip-locked lovers were seen at L.A.'s Troubadour nightclub, the New York Post reports. They met last week when Spears visited the set of Farrell's movie S.W.A.T. But why, Britney, why? Colin has made it no secret he's a Tinseltown tomcat. In the March issue of Playboy, Farrell says: ''I've always been a firm believer that casual sex is a (expletive) good thing. Sometimes . . . all I'm looking for is the simple act of sexual intimacy. It's like ordering a (expletive) pizza.'' The foul-mouthed Irish actor also brags about his love for porn, beer, Ecstacy and prostitutes: ''I have never been with a prostitute that I haven't been completely polite to and just treated like a (expletive) human being.'' Farrell, who was married for four months in 2001 to British actress Amelia Warner (news) and still has her nickname, ''Millie,'' tattooed on his ring finger, says he has no interest in a serious relationship. ''Girl trouble, for me, is when you fall in love,'' he told Playboy. Farrell has been linked to a laundry list of women, including model Josie Maran (news), Playboy Playmate Nicole Narain and actress Maeve Quinlan (Tom Sizemore (news)'s ex-wife). ''If I really slept with every woman they've said I've slept with, I'd be a happy man,'' Farrell recently told USA TODAY. So, are Farrell and Spears officially dating? ''They're friends,'' says Spears' publicist, Lisa Kasteler. What about Durst? Or rumors that Britney was back with Justin Timberlake (news)? ''That I can't tell you,'' Kasteler said. ''She's young, she's single, she's beautiful. What guy in his right mind wouldn't want to date her?'' At Tuesday's premiere, Farrell echoed the party line. ''She's just a mate,'' he told Entertainment Tonight. ''Seriously, we just met a week ago, (we're) having a laugh.''

(Karen)Had to laugh when she described her role in The Guru, which is a porn star. HG also described her role as a bimbo on the am circuit this morning.*still scratching head over that one.*

No wonder he never looked happy in any of his pictures. But he dressed so well.

(Annette)Would someone please tell me who "the other CF" is? Colin Farrell (sp) (Karen)Watch out! That sounds like excommunication language to me. IMO Colin would be better in the part than the actors cited in previous post. That's what I meant. Is it really so surprising that Simpson had multiple affairs? Twice divorced, obviously "looking" for something IMO. And could Edward really fill the bill for her?

(Pam)Is it really so surprising that Simpson had multiple affairs? Twice divorced, obviously "looking" for something IMO. That's my opinion too. After all, she cheated on her previous husband with Edward. So at the very least he ought to have realized that her attitude towards fidelity and marital vows was.... shall we say, flexible. But I guess everybody always thinks that this time it'll be different.

Anyone remember John Garfield? The NY Times had a nice article on him yesterday. The reason - Turner Classic Movies will have an hour documentary on him on Monday, Feb 3. The story inspired me to make a page for him. He was the first of "New Yawk", natural actors. I am watching "Force of Evil," taped by Joe, and considered Garfield's best performance, today. http://www.murphsplace.com/garfield/main.html

So at the very least he ought to have realized that her attitude towards fidelity and marital vows was.... shall we say, flexible. I don't want to defend Mrs. Simpson....but how do we know what the content of that contract was..In some cases, this type of behavior is accepted by the other party. Called "Open Marriages", I believe. Like the Matthew Fields;-)

I just read that smoking will be banned in the pubs in Ireland! I wonder what will happen? I can't imagine them putting up with that.

Sorry but anything to do with this oddity attracts my attention! I just read that Michael Jackson owes Sotheby's $1.5 million for two painting that he successfully bid on in October and he is refusing to pay because he has changed his mind and feels they no longer fit into his collection! You go Michael!

I saw Nicholas Nickelby yesterday and recommend it. I have not read the book, but the reviews say some of the subplots were not included. The movie runs two hours...if more subplots were included, it would have to be a mini-series.The cast inspired; all our old friends...Sophie Thompson, Alan Cummings, Jim Broadbent,..the usual suspects;-). Nathan Lane and Spall are standouts. Sadly, IMO the weak link was Nicholas himself, Charles Hunnam. A Dicken,s main lead needs a more experienced actor.This fellow, though good-looking "recited" the lines.Jamie Bell (Billy Elliott)is the an excellent "Tiny Tim". Director Doulgas Mc Grath (Emma)gives the film a whimsical twist without compromising the spirit of Dickens. Go see it...it's fun.With Nathan Lane you're in for a treat.

(Evelyn) Go see it...it's fun.With Nathan Lane you're in for a treat. I agree. Have never been disappointed in any Lane performance I've seen.

USA folk: Don't forget PBS Masterpiece theater Sunday night (2/2/03) - Michael Kitchen and Edward Fox - what a treat! http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/

The Guardian today. Possible CF vehicle? Witty, irreverant and all that stuff: "Hit studio snaps up Millington rights" http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Guardian/0,4029,886025,00.html

Thanks, Mary, for the update on MT. I see that Rosamund Pike (Agent Frost, Die Another Day) plays Sarah Beaumont. RP is one of my choices for Rebecca in TEoR. At least she was after seeing her in Bond. I'll be watching to see if she still looks Rebecca-like.

Evelyn, I read NN and I can understand why some subplots were missing, the book is HUGE!!! Finally saw Conspiracy last night. Bill, knowing how much I admire CF, said that he was the 'conscience' of the cast. How eerie that this roundtable meeting takes place, asking people's opinion, when the decision was already made???? (I know I'm years later in asking a question someone already asked.) And to the Israelis and Americans here on this board, my heart goes out to you on this black day in space history. Everyone aboard the Columbia were the real heroes.

Bill, knowing how much I admire CF, said that he was the 'conscience' of the cast. Sorry, to break the bubble, but his character was in no way the 'conscience' of the group.

(Laura) How eerie that this roundtable meeting takes place, asking people's opinion, when the decision was already made???? (I know I'm years later in asking a question someone already asked.) Conspiracy is such a well done (and acted) film! Like you said, eerie. I have found a good site that talks about the conference and gives a translation of the Wannsee Protocol if you are interested. The numbers are a bit staggering....hard to imagine. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1010697&lastnode_id=1010705

Long, but a fun read - The Sunday London Times 2/2/03 Interview with Hugh Grant: Learning to lie back and enjoy it? In his romantic-comedy roles with Julia, Ren�e and now Sandra, Hugh Grant ranks with his namesake Cary. But, as Jeff Dawson finds, he�s not satisfied with that Sorry ... For Elton John, seemingly, the hardest word. For those in love, apparently, an unutterable term. No such inhibition in the world of Hugh Grant. Onscreen, Grant begs more pardons than a death-row lawyer. Off it, too, the apologies spill with compulsive abandon. Some years ago, in an uncharacteristic display of road rage, when Grant jumped on the bonnet of his antagonist�s motor and ripped off the windscreen wipers, he swiftly implored forgiveness � then offered his victim a lift home. �Like all Englishmen, the moment it�s done, you immediately start apologising,� he says. Contrite and English: if �Hugh Grant� were an adjective, that�s what you�d find next to it in the dictionary. Still, mercy is being sought. Grant, you see, rarely squats with the British press. Not since (cough) you-know-what, when he was hung out to dry by our mischievous tabloids. You can�t really blame him. The breaking of bread today has thus involved the signing of a paranoid release document threatening high-court action lest any quotes be sneaked to the gutter press (as if!). With lesser publications, Grant has even taken to securing copy approval. Not even Barbra Streisand demands that. �Me and Barbra are very similar nowadays,� he offers, rather sheepishly. He searches for something better but fails. �Well, I don�t know. F*** it. If you can get it, get it.� Here it comes again. �Sorry about that.� Hugh Grant is an immensely likeable sort. He welcomes you into his Manhattan hotel suite, thrusts out a palm and pumps manfully. �Now, what can we offer you?� he ventures, employing the royal pronoun while poking and rattling the drinks cabinet (soft stuff, sadly, for we are on the dollar of an American film studio). He commands an exiting lackey to return with grub � �Something healthy, please ... a fruit plate� � then grumbles that living in hotels, as he has done lately, does not serve well the needs of the nutritionally conscious. Recently, Grant took to the services of a personal trainer. Trim, unseasonally tanned (and dazzlingly white of teeth) � it certainly shows. �About two years ago I realised I was fat and middle-aged,� he says. The hair, having outgrown its About a Boy spikes, is back to its floppiest and finest. �Byronically sensual�, as someone once put it. We may be at the �ber-chic Drake Hotel, high above the crawling limos of Park Avenue, but Grant�s garb, reassuringly, still screams Pitcher & Piano: City-boy civvies of Arran jumper over dress shirt and pressed jeans. His fitness routine, he adds, includes doing his pelvic-floor exercises, a legacy of reading �too much Cosmo�. But then Our Boy Hugh also has an instinctive tendency to reach for the retort, the class quipster diverting you from undelivered homework. Who else could go on Desert Island Discs and proclaim his favourite songs as Viva El Fulham (his team�s 1975 Cup Final record), the Chorus of the Hebrew Slaves from Verdi�s Nabucco (�dedicated to my agents�) and The Tale of the Flopsy Bunnies? ��We don�t care, we don�t care, we don�t care a jot,�� he trills. ��If there�s nothing in the larder, Peter Rabbit�s got the lot...� It�s a wonderful philosophy. Very soothing. I still hum that to myself.� Grant is in New York to tub-thump on behalf of his new film, Two Weeks Notice, a feelgood romantic comedy in which he stars opposite Sandra Bullock (with whom he has been inevitably, and erroneously, linked). In it, a self-absorbed property tycoon (him) and do-good civil lawyer (her) go down the trusty route of can�t-live-with-�em/can�t-live-without-�em. Grant peddles the American model of himself (see also Mickey Blue Eyes), a slightly fluffier version of that familiar from his British outings. The movie marks the directorial debut of Marc Lawrence, who wrote both an early version of that Grant-meets-Mafia caper and also Bullock�s Miss Congeniality. Two for the price of one, as it were, and giving Grant another big female star to bounce off. He compares his various experiences. �I couldn�t honestly say I fear Sandra Bullock, but I still fear Julia,� he announces. �She has a scary quality.� Though as with Roberts and Zellweger, Bullock is given the chance to be intimate. In one scene, she gets her hair trapped in Grant�s fly. He grins. �Sandy was at her happiest that day, her cheek pressed up against my bits and pieces.� Already a sizeable hit in the USA (the film, not Grant�s bits), Two Weeks Notice will probably do a roaring business here. For the record, it contains neither horses nor hounds. (If there were one incident to alter irrevocably Grant�s relationship with the press, it was that scene from Notting Hill in which he ripped down the curtain on celebrity journalism.) Much has been made, including by Grant, of how, in his past few films, he has become somewhat �darker� � �just a terrible cad with a posh voice and a bad character,� to use Richard Curtis�s marvellously scripted send-up in Bridget. It�s Browbeaten Bachelor tweaked to Bachelor Bastard, more akin to the �real Hugh�, according to his retinue. But was About a Boy�s new direction really much more than a trendy haircut? Hugh Grant is Hugh Grant. (Try this: give the full names of three characters he has played in his entire career.) The point is that actually to be Hugh Grant onscreen and carry it off so effortlessly is a remarkable thing. Grant is severely underestimated as a comic actor. As others have said, he sits comfortably in the presence of namesake Cary. You don�t get to be Britain�s most successful film thesp by accident. �I think I�d be a very good cowboy. I always thought I bring a certain menace to the screen, sort of a danger, a mystery,� Grant joshes. Then he turns serious. He�s tried straight stuff, action romps and all sorts, but life is too short. Stick with what you�re good at. �It�s quite enough of a challenge to do light comedy,� he asserts. �I don�t feel that doing deep, dark drama is more of a challenge than that. In fact, I imagine it might be less.� �Comedic acting is not easy. You see a lot of people doing it very badly,� endorses Eric Fellner, co-chief of Working Title films and producer of Grant�s biggest hits. �He is truly brilliant at it. He really thinks about every single aspect of every prop, every set, every line, every interaction, and he works it and works it and works it until he feels it�s absolutely perfect.� He�s a renowned ad-libber, most notably for that bit in Bridget Jones when he uncovers Zellweger�s big knickers and declares: �Hello, mummy!� �There�s no time he spends in his trailer. There�s no time he�s not on set,� adds Bullock. �Even when he�s not shooting. He�s a workaholic.� As queen of the genre, she should probably know. �She would argue that I am the queen of romantic comedy,� replies Grant. Ba-doom, crash. Grant explains that being able to be funny, on cue, in front of lots of people, with millions of dollars at stake, is the source of considerable anguish. �I�m so tense and pernickety and perfectionist that I haven�t really enjoyed making a film for ages,� he concedes. He goes all Tony Hancock and maudlin, yearning for the days �where if you won a silver seashell at San Sebastian, that was all you could ever hope for�, before it became this �permanent state of terror�. Poor old Hugh. Though I suspect he�s milking it now. �Do you know, for the long night shoot, I might have a beer round about five in the morning,� he confides, recounting how John Hurt once told him he always acted better after alcohol. �So I�ve been trying it, and find, in fact, I think I�m better, but I�m actually way worse.� In the nearly nine years since he became a household name, Grant�s life has been pored over endlessly, as, by association, has that of Liz Hurley, whose fame, despite no discernible product, has also outlived their 13-year union (Grant refers to Hurley here simply as �my ex-girlfriend�). Grant�s potted history goes: west London middle-class upbringing, private school, Oxford, fringe theatre, then a decade of art-house films, from the �ponce pack� days of Maurice to the Euro-pudding of Polanski (Bitter Moon). In the beginning, he financed his acting habit by driving a van around the capital. Delivering what? �Mainly quiches.� He did enjoy a sideline in scripting radio commercials. But his evolving screen work, most of it playing repressed types (without recourse to David Cassidy lyrics), never marked him out as anything more than a journeyman. A script by Curtis about thirtysomething love on the summer nuptials circuit, good as it was, did not seem to present new possibilities. �I was on the verge of quitting,� he says. �I remember walking up the stairs in Soho to that audition � I was 32 � and thinking, �This is positively the last audition I ever go to. It�s undignified, and I�ve never really been that passionate about this job.�� And then, quite unexpectedly ... poof! Four Weddings and a Funeral was never meant to be a global hit. The low-budget affair was designed as an offbeat vehicle for Andie MacDowell (the official �star�), Grant her toff totty. For Working Title, Curtis and Grant, it was kismet. Curtis, who has written all of Grant�s big British hits bar About a Boy, had finally found his screen alter ego. �Hugh is an unbelievably lucky thing. An unbelievably lucky thing for me to find somebody who was so capable of doing this,� says Curtis. �The credit does entirely have to go to Richard. You know it�s all about writing. It always is, every time,� returns Grant. Curtis, he adds, �is the only person in the world who pulls off that trick of being simultaneously nice and quite cynical at the same time�. Using the writer as his acting template in both Four Weddings and Notting Hill led to gross misconceptions, however. �I�m always annoyed when people describe me as bumbling, because I don�t find that I am, and nobody who particularly knows me particularly finds that I am,� he groans. �It was a source of great amusement to Richard nd Eric Fellner when the world thought I was this nice guy.� Not always. While late blooming clearly had its advantages (�Well, I haven�t gone completely off the rails and been found in a smashed-up hotel room full of cocaine ... yet,� says Grant), he was ill equipped to shoulder the burden of fame. In 1995, while contractually obliged films were still being flung out (Sirens, The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain), new-model Hugh was whisked off to Hollywood to make Nine Months, his first big studio comedy. And in the wee small hours of June 27, two weeks before its release, Hugh John Mungo Grant was arrested for lewd conduct (copping a $1,180 fine, two years� probation and helping to launch the short-lived career of someone called Divine Brown). The details can be spared. Let�s just say that dear old Hugh, by certain accounts, was naive enough to keep his foot on the brake pedal, the on/off of the rear lights alerting the police. Grant, who by now has relaxed enough to rock back in his chair and put his blue Hush Puppies up on the coffee table, fidgets, gets up and goes to the drinks cabinet. He fiddles around with the ice again. I offer that he needn�t talk about it if he doesn�t want to. �Oh God.� Indeed, he can happily sling me out of the room, but it would be negligent not to bring it up � not in a salacious way, but merely to establish how, in retrospect, The Incident fitted into the big scheme of things. He sits back down. Was it, in some ways, for want of a better expression, a career leg-up? No such thing as bad publicity and all that? He chews it over. �I think, ultimately, the pros and cons about evened out, actually. I remember saying to my agent the night of the event ... I was very drunk (affects weak voice): �Is this bad for my career?� He was a very Hollywood guy, for whom everything is fantastic, and even he, who had just been woken up from his deep, sleeping-pill-induced sleep, had to say: �Oh, it�s not great.� But on the other hand, there were odd things coming out of it that were quite positive, in a way. So I have to say, in all honesty, I think it was kind of neutral.� Grant�s marvellously self-effacing performance on the US talk shows soon after was the kind of positive publicity you simply couldn�t buy (for if there is one thing Grant does without peer, it�s self-effacement). �I would just like to emphasise one thing, though. I�m always irritated when people say, �Hugh Grant went on this apology tour,�� he counters. �I didn�t do that. I was booked on all those shows to promote the film. All I did was fulfil the obligation.� He slips into showbiz mode. �What people care about is that old adage in Hollywood of �How well did your last film do?� And because Nine Months did very good business � though I was not good in it � that�s really what people care about.� The experience was enough for Grant to take a lengthy sabbatical, diverting attention into Simian Films, which he still runs with Hurley (all questions along the Hurley line come to nought, other than that they have a very good working relationship. �Hand in hand ... Oh yeah, it�s very friendly�). Their first produced effort, the thriller Extreme Measures (1996), fared badly. The next one, Mickey Blue Eyes, showed a greater sense of purpose. A third one, with comedy director Jerry Zucker, is in the works (Grant has never been formally acknowledged as producer. Hurley takes credit alone). Not until 1999�s Notting Hill, though, did Grant end his exile, nestling into the familiar bosom of Working Title/Richard Curtis. It marked the beginning of a regular output. Now the gang are at it again, with the episodic romantic comedy Love Actually imminent. In Curtis�s first outing as a director, Grant plays a fictitious prime minister who, in a nicely parochial version of the Clinton legend, cops off with tea-lady Martine McCutcheon. �Not quite like that. There�s love involved,� stresses Grant. Neither is the PM, he insists, modelled on anyone � subsequent John Major revelations notwithstanding. �No, emphatically not. He�s completely fictional,� he says. �He�s again quite Richardy. And, in fact, I had to say to Richard, wonderful though the script is, and it really is, I just don�t know that anyone will buy me as this nice any more. I don�t know if I buy myself. I do think you require some steel when you�re running a country, so I have tried to inject whatever steel I can into it.� After that, though, nothing. Grant talks about writing and directing (as he does periodically), kicking himself for not having made further progress along that avenue (though notably, he has been spending time in New York with the screenwriting guru William Goldman, picking his brains). �I mean there are huge questions for me about what to do next. I�ve deliberately kept the slate clean for the next year. And if ever there were a good time for me to make a little segue, perhaps not do so much acting or any acting, this could be it.� Grant talks fondly of other diversions � his new �James Bond� pad, as the tabloids are calling it (�More Doctor Evil�, he says); scraping his Aston Martin on the garage door; bumping into Fulham FC manager Jean Tigana in his local paper shop. Then there�s golf, his new religion. All the trappings of an �8m-per-picture salary. And therein lies the danger. �I�m potentially the idle rich,� he says. �The only thing that ever got me doing anything in the past was the need to pay the rent.� There�s just no drive any more, he confesses. Not since it became �a �proper job� � because of the Barbra Streisand factor�. �In the old days, when I was doing my show in London, The Jockeys of Norfolk, or even writing radio commercials, I did feel like more of a man at the end of the day,� he mourns. �Writing book reviews for the Daily Mail. Just anything to be creative. Even writing a letter now will do the trick for me. I feel more like I deserve my beer come six o�clock than I do if I�ve just been poncing about on a film set.� Contrite, English � and unmanly? Surely not. Some years ago, Grant�s parents were at a dinner party. His mother explained to the host that she had two sons � one an investment banker, the other a film star who�d appeared in several big movies. The man�s eyes lit up. �Really?� he enthused. �Which bank?�

�I mean there are huge questions for me about what to do next. I�ve deliberately kept the slate clean for the next year Next year, would that be 2003 or 2004, and if 2003 - what about TEOR? Thank you, Murph.

Sorry, to break the bubble, but his character was in no way the 'conscience' of the group. ] I beg to disagree, he did not want to 'kill' off the 'Jews', he definately didn't want mixed blood and fought hard to limit (sterilize) the mixing. He definitely did NOT agree w/ the Branagh character. He fought hard to define German/Jew and the percentage of what race controls.

Oh, Laura, you've missed the point. :-( Stuckart was as vehemently anti-Jew as anybody at that table. He was only standing up for his "Nuremberg Laws" (pride of authorship, his work), wanting for there to be a legal basis for the extermination. As you'll recall, he warned against creating martyrs, which he foresaw their approach might do in the world's eyes. Stuckart had risen very high in the Nazi ranks (not just the government bureaucracy); you don't do that by being soft on such issues. He had the most realistic viewpoint there; many of the others (SS types) were merely thugs. Kritzinger (David Threlfall) was the only one wavering on some moral grounds. BTW, sterilization = extermination in the longer run.

And BTW, this kind of discussion belongs on Topic 166, Firthology.

Holy moly, did you notice the guy who played Adrian (?), the student who fathered Kelly Macdonald's babies? When he stopped in front of her at the stocks, he cocked his head and looked exactly like Colin in 'on foot.' Then later he had the big blousy white shirt; it wasn't wet, but you get the idea. That boy has potential!

(Karen) Holy moly, did you notice the guy who played Adrian (?), the student who fathered Kelly Macdonald's babies? When he stopped in front of her at the stocks, he cocked his head and looked exactly like Colin in 'on foot.' Then later he had the big blousy white shirt; it wasn't wet, but you get the idea. That boy has potential! I noticed, and I agree! Very nice, IMO. Who was he?

Sorry, I don't know where anything belongs anymore :( (must've been the montepulciano I was drinking while watching it, definitely should've drank the wine during XXX, I probably would've thought THAT was a good movie! :))

From today's New York Times: February 3, 2003 The Guy in That Canadian Film Sounds Like a Noo Yawka, Eh? By JOANNE LATIMER MONTREAL � So many New York movies are being made in Canada that David Schaap, an unmistakable New York transplant, accent and all, has been kept busy as a dialect coach helping Canadian actors pass for New Yorkers. It's important for actors who want to work here or in Toronto to be able to do at least the standard, white-collar American accent, said Mr. Schaap, 44, himself an actor and the director of TheaterWorks Montreal. Its brochure says that all its staff members were trained in New York. Mr. Schaap worked for five weeks as a dialect coach on a television film called "Rudy's Wars," directed by Robert Dornhelm for Carlton America and USA Network. It's about the career and personal life of Rudolph W. Giuliani, starring James Woods and Penelope Ann Miller, who are the only Americans in the cast. Canadians play the other roles. American unions complain bitterly about jobs lost when filming is done in Canada, but for producers who want to stretch their budgets, the cheaper labor costs and the American dollar's strength against the Canadian dollar are difficult to ignore. During the production Mr. Schaap worked from a trailer, tweaking New York accents for the 45 Montreal actors with speaking parts. "This movie is going to be under a microscope, so we don't need a penalty flag for bad accents," said Mr. Schaap, who grew up on Long Island and studied acting with Uta Hagen. "I`m honored as a New Yorker to be working on this project. Films come to Canada because they can't afford to shoot anywhere else. They're not runaways. Why? Because they never intended to shoot in the States to begin with. They don't have the budget." Canadian actors rely on the business. "Rudy's Wars" is only one film in a string of American projects that turn Canadian waiter-actors into working actors. There isn't enough indigenous production to sustain a career in Canada, said Mark Camacho, who plays Tony Carbonetti, the mayor's appointments officer, in "Rudy's Wars," so picking up the New York accent is on every actor's mind. "When casting agents in town get the character breakdowns for a movie, it's stipulated in big bold type across each page that actors must sound American," he said. Some of the American productions filmed in Montreal in the last year or so were "Confessions of a Dangerous Mind," directed by George Clooney; "Timeline," by Richard Donner; "Beyond Borders," starring Angelina Jolie; "Levity," with Billy Bob Thornton and Morgan Freeman; and "The Human Stain," with Nicole Kidman and Anthony Hopkins. Steven Spielberg's "Catch Me if You Can" was also filmed here. While it is not common practice for a visiting production company to hire dialect coaches for the entire shoot, coaches train actors privately for auditions and hold workshops. American speech therapists like Sam Chwat and acting teachers like Warren Robertson come to Montreal and Toronto to give workshops, and the Alliance of Canadian Cinema, Television and Radio Artists, the Canadian equivalent of the Screen Actors Guild, invites guest coaches. Occasionally, an American production will bring its own dialect coach along. When "Bonanno: A Godfather's Story" was filmed here in 1999, the producer brought over a coach from Sicily, but no one on the set sounded like a New York gangster, Mr. Schaap recalled. "I got them talking out of the side of their mouths a little more and changed their body language," he said. The biggest challenge is hiding the Canadian accent. Nancy Helms, one of the dialect coaches at TheaterWorks, spent her first 30 years in South Carolina, so she has an ear for the subtle differences between American and Canadian speech patterns. Like Mr. Schaap, she does a lot of private coaching, often faxing drills to clients who have moved to Los Angeles. "Tawking is one thing, but speakin' is another," Ms. Helms said. She uses the International Phonetic Alphabet and recommends the David Stern voice manuals. "But the ear is fallible, and manuals have limitations," she said. "Canadians have upward inflections at the end of sentences and stress different syllables. You can really hear the difference in words like mobile, resource, adult and contributed. Canadians stress the first syllable, making the word sound longer." Christopher B. MacCabe, an actor who coaches more than 300 dialect students, works between Toronto and Montreal, training people for auditions. He advises his students to chew gum in the front of their mouths to help perfect their New York accent. Frequent phrases that he tackles are "fegettabowit," "how yuh doin'?" and "tamarra" for tomorrow. Many New Yorkers speak out of the front of their mouths, so the gum-chewing trick helps, Mr. MacCabe said, adding: "They also tend to emphasize verbs, while we emphasize pronouns. The tongue is more concave for Americans. It's not the queen's English that we're used to. The tip of the `t' that you hear in Canada is from our British influence." Demand also exists in Montreal and Toronto for other American accents, especially Chicago and New Jersey. "It's crucial to have the flexibility," said Danny Balonco-Hall, a French-Canadian who played a police officer in "Rudy's Wars." French-Canadians have a bigger problem with adapting to an American accent, even if they're bilingual. Many attend workshops. Questions of authenticity were considered important in "Rudy's Wars." "I`m not conflicted about it because Montreal always stands in as another city, and I'm proud that we can make a contribution to this project," Mr. Balonco-Hall said as he took calls from hopeful actors needing private lessons before auditions.

(The actor's name in Brush with Fate is Kieran Bews) Pretty special stars By Luke Leitch, Arts Reporter 3 February 2003 Some of Britain's finest film actors past and present gathered at the Savoy to celebrate the 30th Evening Standard British Film Awards - and witnessed a star of the future crowned best actor. Chiwetel Ejiofor won the award for his performance as an illegal immigrant in Stephen Frears's Dirty Pretty Things. In a ceremony hosted by Jack Dee last night, German supermodel Heidi Klum presented Ejiofor's award in front of British stars including Roger Moore, Hugh Grant - with Mariella Frostrup as his date [Ed note: again] - Rosamund Pike, John Hurt, Samantha Bond, Twiggy, Mike Leigh, Gillian Anderson and Maureen Lipman. Receiving his award Ejiofor, 25, said: "I had a wonderful, incredible time doing this film, but it seems incredible to receive an award for doing it." It was only the first triumph last night for Frears's brilliant expos� of 21st-century London, which also won the best film award. Introducing the ceremony for her first time as Editor of the Evening Standard, Veronica Wadley paid tribute to the vibrancy of the British film industry - which continues to produce world-beating cinema in the face of increasingly vicious economic strictures. She said: "Our awards are dedicated solely to British talent at home and abroad. This makes them unique. British film companies like Film Four are retrenching. Granada has ceased making films - we hope only temporarily. The Film Council is being forced to take a harder look at value for public money. There may be less of it soon. But we keep a special affection for the talents that these awards have honoured and discovered over 30 years." Presenting Stephen Frears with the best film award, maverick director Terry Gilliam said: "These are not good times and I do not know how much money is going to make new films - but I wonder how much is being spent on all these employees of the Film Council." Despite the industry's bureaucratic and financial problems, last night was a time, above all, to celebrate the films made in Britain during 2002. Catherine Zeta-Jones - once a lowly chorus girl in a West End production of 42nd Street - was best actress for her high-kicking, high-decibel performance as Velma Kelly in Chicago. Speaking via videolink from her California home she apologised for being gushingly theatrical but added: "I can't tell you, receiving this award in my homeland means so, so much to me. I wish I was with you tonight." Dougray Scott - tipped as the next James Bond - was in the audience to see the Bond films win the Evening Standard's Special Award for 40 years of cinematic excellence. Bond producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael G Wilson were presented with the award by former 007 Roger Moore. Harry Potter star Daniel Radcliffe presented the technical achievement award to Eve Stewart for her work on the gritty, bittersweet film All Or Nothing. Daniel said of special effects work: "When you've been stuck on a broomstick for as many days as I have, you really appreciate it." Receiving her prize Ms Stewart gave Daniel a huge smacker and declared: "I can't believe I've just kissed Harry Potter." The best screenplay award, presented by actress Gina McKee, went to Neil Hunter and Tom Hunsinger for The Lawless Heart. Rosamund Pike awarded young director Asif Kapadia the most promising newcomer award for The Warrior. Hugh Grant - a former Evening Standard film award winner - came a cropper when presenting the Peter Sellers award for comedy. The hapless actor lived up to his onscreen persona by forgetting the names of Keith Fulton and Louis Pepe, who won with Lucy Darwin for their painfully funny docudrama Lost In La Mancha. "I just can't remember their names," said Grant, "I really am terribly sorry."

Music by Glass Binds Film 'The Hours' Together (Reuters) - As movies go, "The Hours" is different: Three stories unfolding simultaneously in three different time periods featuring three different actresses and a unique score that forces its way into the drama as if it were a key player. Director Stephen Daldry's adaptation of Michael Cunningham's Pulitzer prize-winning novel, which is based on Virginia Woolf's breakthrough novel "Mrs. Dalloway," has something setting it apart from other films as the season's most intense period of award-giving begins: a pulsating score by minimalist concert hall composer Philip Glass. Performed by a piano and 50 violins, the score becomes as much of a character in the movie as stars Nicole Kidman, Julianne Moore and Meryl Streep. And the story is that Glass got the job in classic, or as some would say, typical, Hollywood fashion. Director Daldry filmed the movie with temporary music and he and the producers kept wanting a score that sounded more and more like Philip Glass. So they had people come in with Glass-like music until, finally, some one had the bright idea to call for the real Philip Glass. This slightly miffed Glass because it meant that by the time he came into the editing room, the stars had left and it wasn't until the film's promotional tour that he got to meet them. "At the press junket, I followed Nicole Kidman to the podium and ... it's not so bad to have everyone so wide awake when you walk into a room," he said in a recent interview. TYING THE BOW Glass has written scores for more than a dozen previous films ranging from the avant-garde "Koyaanisqatsi" and the slasher flick "Candyman" to the Tibetan-flavored "Kundum," for which he won an Oscar nomination. He said he sees the job of writing music for movies as "tying the bow round the box, not baking the cake." For "The Hours," with its floating from one story and time period to another, Glass's bow became something that held the whole cake together. He saw his job as uniting the three seemingly disparate stories. "I used the same music to go between the three time periods and the effect was to bind the film. The music was a bridge .... I am so glad that people are getting it." Or as director Daldry told Reuters recently: "This film seemed to reject music which was in any way merely emotional wallpaper. It needed a very different sort of music, a music that actually allowed a stream of consciousness to emerge, which was as if it was another character. "The picture and the music worked in counterpoint to each other. It didn't just link the time periods it worked as a subconscious element. And of course Philip's music is so much about time and the relationships of the different time periods to one another." Daldry said it was an easy collaboration. "The fantastic thing about Philip is that he is such a good collaborator, so we would score and then record, then score and record again, keep working at it. Not only was he brilliantly patient but he was brilliantly engaged in the whole process. Said Glass, "I wanted the music to lift you away and I didn't want it to be gloomy and downcast at the end .... Even with all the suicide and death in the movie, I wanted people to feel that life was rich." A RICH HERITAGE The film is based on Cunningham's novel which blends the life of British writer Virginia Woolf and the writing of her breakthrough "stream of consciousness" novel "Mrs Dalloway" in the 1920s with those of a reader on the brink of suicide in the 1950s and with a modern day Mrs. Dalloway, performing decades later the same tasks as the heroine of the novel. If it sounds complicated, it is: Three stories essentially telling the life and death struggles of three women -- all within the confines of a single day. The film begins with Woolf's real suicide and then proceeds to weave the tale of her battle against depression and mental illness into two other deeply connected stories. Glass's pulls the movie together with his characteristic hypnotic repetitive phrasings and does it so well that the experts think he is a shoe-in for an Oscar nomination, although he will have stiff competition for the statuette itself. Novelist Cunningham thinks Woolf would have approved. In liner notes for the CD of the film score, Cunningham said, "I love Glass's music almost as much as I love Virginia Woolf ... When I saw the movie with the music added I thought automatically of how I could use the soundtrack ... to help me with my next book." ~~~~~~~ Cunningham also said he thought the music stood in for his prose, reiterating the bit about it being a character as well, and that people either loved it (being so pronounced) or hated it.

For those hoping for a CF role in The Thunderbirds: Kingsley joins 'Thunderbirds' THR: Feb. 03, 2003 LONDON -- Ben Kingsley has signed to star in the live-action film version of the 1960s cult U.K. television puppet series "Thunderbirds" for Working Title Films and Universal Pictures. Kingsley will star as the Hood, the movie's evil international master criminal, Working Title Films said Friday. The movie follows the Tracy family and their top-secret International Rescue organization. They travel around the world carrying out covert missions with the Thunderbirds, a set of five vehicles ranging from a rocket to a space station. Working Title also revealed the first details of the movie's plot, which will see Kingsley's character invade Tracy Island, the secret base and home of International Rescue and the Thunderbirds, in the hope of using them for his own evil needs. The Tracy family will be headed by Bill Paxton, who will play Jeff Tracy, the father of the family of five sons, Virgil, John, Gordon, Scott and Alan.

Lots of interesting (at least to me) miscellaneous news today ... ;-) Adaptation noms confuse Oscar THR: Feb. 03, 2003 By Josh Spector Wasn't "Gangs of New York" a book, written by Herbert Asbury in 1928, long before it became a movie? Didn't "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" first appear onstage before it was transformed into a film? And didn't Antwone Fisher first tell his story in the 2001 memoir "Finding Fish" before the big-screen version of his life, "Antwone Fisher," ever went before the cameras? So what are all three movies doing courting an Academy Award nomination as best original screenplay when, at first glance, they would seem to qualify as adaptations? This year, the question of what is and what isn't an adaptation isn't just one of the themes of a movie currently onscreen -- the conveniently titled "Adaptation" -- it's also a question that officials at both the WGA and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences have been forced to ponder as they ready their nominations. (The WGA noms will be announced Wednesday, with Oscar noms to follow Feb. 11.) While the WGA declined comment on how it decides to categorize screenplays for awards purposes -- a spokesman would only say that the WGA's credit department makes such decisions -- Academy Awards coordinator Patrick Stockstill admitted that this year's Oscar hopefuls have forced him to do his homework. Typically, when Stockstill sets out to verify a claim to originality, he combs through press kits, checks published interviews and considers a film's credits as well as the category to which the WGA has assigned it. He then makes a recommendation to the 25-member Writers Branch Executive Committee, which makes the final call. "Gangs," for example, required that Stockstill do "a lot of research" because the finished film itself carries a credit that it was "suggested by" Asbury's book. "Ultimately, we decided to list it as original because we felt that the writers had done enough original research on the film to warrant it as an original," Stockstill said. "The fact that the 'suggested by' credit ran during the end credits as opposed to the main title sequence in the beginning was also a factor in the decision." "Gangs" writer Jay Cocks -- the first of the three credited writers on the project -- was surprised to hear the Academy had considered the possibility that the film could be anything but original. "The 'Gangs of New York' book is a compilation of the history of that era and has no narrative at all, no plot, and nothing to hang a story on," Cocks said. "It was just the first of more than 50 books we used for research." The 'suggested by' credit, Cocks explained, was designed to honor the book whose title the film shares. He added that the only aspects of the book used in the film were names of some of the gangs, descriptions of the draft riots and Daniel Day-Lewis' Bill the Butcher character. "The phrase 'suggested by' is quite accurate because we took that book's title, and I would want to acknowledge that in some way," he said. "But to have that acknowledgment suggest that the script is any less original is not fair. It is intended as an acknowledgment of inspiration." In the case of "Greek Wedding," press kits issued when the film was first released in April described the movie as "based on the one-woman show written by and starring Second City alumna Nia Vardalos." And the voluminous press accounts that accompanied the movie's success played variations on the theme of how producer Rita Wilson visited the one-woman show and came away convinced that it could be transformed into a film. As Vardalos tells it, though, she and the film's producers sought the Academy's advice before deciding in which category to submit her screenplay. For, she said, she had actually written the screenplay before creating the stage monologue that brought her to Wilson's attention. "I had written the screenplay first but couldn't even get an agent off of it, so I decided to put it on as a play," she said. "Plus, the stage play was actually only about a third of what was in the script. The Academy said that since I registered the screenplay first that it should be listed as an original. We really wanted there to be no controversy, which is why we checked with the Academy first." Much like "Greek Wedding," "Antwone Fisher" was ruled to be an original screenplay because Fisher's screenwriting efforts predated the "Finding Fish" memoir he fashioned from his autobiographical tale. "Because this is a life story and there was a book published, some people have been confused about which category it belongs in," said "Fisher" producer Todd Black. "But we absolutely are happy to be competing in the original category because, without a doubt in my mind, it is a less competitive category this year." In fact, the big guns in this year's Oscar race all appear to be bearing down on the best adapted screenplay category. Such already-laureled movies as "Chicago" and "The Hours" as well as critics' favorites including "The Pianist," "About Schmidt" and "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" are all competing for a spot in that category, which is shaping up as a tough contest. Even "Adaptation" -- which verges on being an original screenplay because it departs so dramatically from the Susan Orlean book on which it is based -- will be trying to claim the adaptation crown. By contrast, most observers agree, the best original screenplay category is relatively open and ripe for the picking. So this year there is a definitive advantage in claiming that a screenplay is a true original. While the Academy didn't challenge the categories in which the preceding films were entered, it did rule that two other films, submitted as originals, were actually adaptations. The animated Adam Sandler comedy "Eight Crazy Nights" was deemed an adaptation because it includes characters based on a previous Sandler comedy album, while the 20th Century Fox comedy "Kung Pow!: Enter The Fist" was moved over into the adaptation category because parts of the film are based on an older martial arts film. "The Academy ruled that 'Kung Pow!' wouldn't have existed without that original film," Stockstill said. Both "Nights" and "Pow!" -- even their creators would have to admit -- should be considered the most extreme of long shots. Whether landing in the original screenplay category will pay dividends for any of the other contenders won't be known until Oscar night, March 23. But Vardalos, for one, claims to be happy just to be considered. "I'm actually surprised it's even been given this much consideration," she said. "Whatever has happened with this film has been shocking -- and getting a nomination in either category would be another great surprise."

I can't believe they are making a live-action film of "The Thunderbirds"; I used to watch that when I was little, it was ridiculous then, and when I saw it again in Ireland, I couldn't imagine why I liked it so much as a kid! BTW, the Threfell (sp?); I thought he was related to the Fox's (Edward, etal); strong resemble...

Regarding "About Schmidt".. I have not seen the movie but my parents went a few days ago even though they are not big JN fans. My father really enjoyed the movie, thought JN played it just right, etc. The only thing is, he has not been able to sleep since seeing it. I guess it brought to light many issues which can be extremely poignant and frightening for people of a certain age group (well, anyone really)... Now I really won't see it...

I was more or less ambivalent about Colin Farrell, but after reading the article posted on #928, my opinion of him is "ugh". At best I would refer to him as "that other CF", but we ought to find some other way to refer to him other than "CF" (something more or less polite, LOL). I can't stand the thought of anyone getting those two mixed up.

Big article (3 pages) in the new Time magazine about Women in Film. Should be online soon. Points out all the inequities we've talked about and more (takes 3 women to equal 1 big male star in a film). Grrr! But no hints at solutions, other than what some of the actresses with clout are trying to do. An excerpt:It's a long way down from the '30s and '40s, when Hollywood had as many top female stars as male--when sexual and intellectual equality was the onscreen norm. Dozens of down-to-earth movie goddesses stood up to their men and used wit as well as wiles on the way to the kiss at the final fade-out. Oddly, though, as women, improved their status in American society, they found their roles diminished in films. Since the 70s, Hollywood has undergone seismic shifts, and most of those militate against women's films. Scripts haven't become more sophisticated, but special effects have, and they are best suited to burly action films and fantasies. Hollywood has long relied on literary properties for source material, but today inspiration is more likely to come from the comic-book racks (guy stuff) than from the shelves of best-selling romantic novels (gal stuff). And since 1975, when Jaws proved the wisdom of opening a movie in thousands of theaters on the same day, the pressure has increased for a film to grab big first-weekend numbers. The queue is full of teenage boys and young couples, but, says Rudin, "older women, the main audience for women's movies, don't run out on a Friday night to see a film." A women's film is thus at a severe demographic disadvantage.

Thanks for all the very interesting articles ladies. Good reading.

Thanks, Karen and Mari, for these good Off Topic articles.

Since the 70s, Hollywood has undergone seismic shifts, and most of those militate against women's films. Let me say firstly, that I agree with the article. However , the industry has also exploded9$$$) since the 70's. And I wonder if wanting to appeal more to the international market has more to do with the content of films than previously when the domestic market was the focus. ..."but special effects have, and they are best suited to burly action films and fantasies." This translates more to the international scene than a lot of "wit and wiles" (wordy). The young go to the movies more often, there is no doubt ...moreover, they see the same film over and over again and then buy the vid. = $$$

Sylvia Plath's Daughter Pens Condemnation of Film Mon Feb 3, 2:47 PM ET Add Entertainment - Reuters to My Yahoo! By Richard Ayton LONDON (Reuters) - The daughter of Boston-born poet Sylvia Plath has resorted to verse to vent her anger at plans for a major film dramatization of her mother's life and suicide. Frieda Hughes, daughter from Plath's celebrated marriage to fellow poet Ted Hughes, expresses her contempt for the plan in a poem entitled "My Mother." "My buried mother / Is dug up for repeat performances," she writes in the poem, set to appear in the March edition of women's lifestyle magazine "Tatler." "Now they want to make a film / For anyone lacking the ability / To imagine the body, head in oven." Plath, one of the most celebrated poets of her generation, gassed herself to death in the winter of 1963, leaving Hughes with two children. The planned BBC film "Ted and Sylvia" has a budget of $11 million and Gwyneth Paltrow (news), who won an Oscar in 1999 for her role in "Shakespeare in Love," is set to play Plath. But the poet's daughter seems appalled at the apparent popularization of a very private event in her life. "The peanut eaters, entertained / At my mother's death, will go home... Maybe they'll buy the video," she writes. "...All they have to do / Is press 'pause' / If they want to boil a kettle, / While my mother holds her breath on screen / To finish dying after tea." Plath had attempted suicide in the early 1950s but went on to win a prestigious Fulbright scholarship to study at Cambridge University, where she met Hughes. They married in 1956, uniting two literary minds that were among the most renowned of the post-war period. The BBC production was made possible after Hughes's decision to publish 140 previously unseen letters and other documents relating to his marriage shortly before his death in 1998. Though his infidelity is sometimes blamed for Plath's suicide, in the letters Hughes tells a friend his wife killed herself after taking anti-depressants. BBC bosses have promised they will deal sensitively with Plath's suicide, which they say will not be the film's focus. But Frieda Hughes is adamant she will not help producers use her mother's poetry. "They think I should love it /... they think / I should give them my mother's words / To fill the mouth of their monster, / Their Sylvia Suicide Doll, / Who will walk and talk / And die at will, / And die and die, / And forever be dying."

LONDON (Reuters) - Hollywood star Kevin Spacey (news) is to take over as artistic director of one of Britain's most famous theaters, The Times said on Tuesday. It said that the dual Oscar winner would take the helm at The Old Vic, the 180-year-old London theater that needs a huge injection of funds to ensure its survival. Spacey, who won Hollywood's ultimate accolade for his haunting performances in "The Usual Suspects" and "American Beauty," is reported to have given a six-figure sum in support of the venerable theater. As artistic director, he would follow in the famed footsteps of Jonathan Miller and Sir Peter Hall (news) to try to revive the Old Vic's sagging fortunes.

(Mari) Sylvia Plath's Daughter Pens Condemnation of Film Keep those hexes coming, ladies (Mary Murphy) Hollywood star Kevin Spacey (news) is to take over as artistic director of one of Britain's most famous theaters So let me get this straight: KS gave a six-figure contribution to the Old Vic, and they made him the artistic director for it??!! Does he even live in London? I can't imagine a theatre having a long distance AD; maybe he'll "just" do fundraising.

(Mari) Sylvia Plath's Daughter Pens Condemnation of Film SP's daughter certainly expresses her pain very clearly. How sad for her.

Closing tag. It is, trust me.

From the "it isn't just money department..." ;-) Warner Bros puts classics division on the fast track Los Angeles 04 February 2003 Warner Bros has confirmed that it has put its plans for a specialized film unit back on the fast track and is now actively searching for an executive to run it. Warner has been the only major studio without a classics division for some time and has been toying with the idea for about two years now. But in The Los Angeles Times yesterday, Warner Bros president and chief operating officer Alan Horn said that the perception of the studio was as a producer of franchise and event pictures not of so-called prestige movies. "Let's just say with my tickets to the Golden Globes this year, they sent me binoculars," he joked, adding that it was when he read and passed on Todd Haynes' Far From Heaven because the studio was not positioned to release a film like it that he started to feel uneasy. Far From Heaven was produced by Killer Films and executive produced by Warner-based producer John Wells who has a partnership with Killer. Horn has been restructuring Warner Bros Pictures in the wake of the departure of long-time chief Lorenzo di Bonaventura in Sept 2002. di Bonaventura had championed the formation of a classics division at the studio and was in advanced negotiations with Sundance Film Festival director Geoffrey Gilmore to run it in late 2000. Russell Schwartz, the former head of Gramercy Pictures and now marketing chief at New Line Cinema, was in the frame to co-head the unit before he segued to New Line. But that configuration was never finalized, although di Bonaventura did sign a co-production agreement with the UK's FilmFour which yielded the disappointing Charlotte Gray starring Cate Blanchett. In the wake of Di Bonaventura's departure, Jeff Robinov assumed the role of president, domestic production, and, now that he is ensconsed alongside Steve Papazian who is president of physical production, Horn is turning his attention fast to specialized films. Currently being determined is the structure of the unit and how it will work alongside the existing studio infrastructure: whether it will share marketing and distribution with Warner Bros Pictures or operate autonomously and how many films to produce a year. In addition to the obvious benefits of producing arthouse films like attracting talent, discovering new film-makers and winning awards, Warner, like every other studio, is highly conscious of the ageing baby boomer audience, some 40% of which is now over the age of 40. In addition, Warner has been dramatically expanding its international production activities which have already yielded local hits such as It Can't Be All Our Fault (Ma Che Colpa Abbiamo Noi) in Italy and Le Boulet in France. The studio recently committed to its first Chinese-language picture Turn Left, Turn Right, to be written and directed by one of Hong Kong's most successful filmmaking teams - Johnnie To and Wai Ka-fai - and is backing Jean-Pierre Jeunet's follow-up to Amelie - A Very Long Engagement in France. If these activities, which are overseen by Warner Bros executive vice president, international, Richard Fox deliver films which could warrant a US release, a classics division would be the perfect place. The Warner initiative comes during a season which has seen Disney's Miramax enjoy a breakout hit with Chicago, MGM's United Artists score $20m success with Bowling For Columbine, and Universal's new Focus Features division flourish with Far From Heaven and The Pianist. Paramount Pictures' Paramount Classics arm bought multiple territory rights to The United States Of Leland at the Sundance Film Festival in January, while Sony Pictures' Sony Pictures Classics - the oldest studio team of all - is pitching for Pedro Almodovar's Talk To Her to score Oscar nominations next Tuesday. Warner meanwhile has focused on its powerhouse blockbuster lineup in 2003 which includes The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolutions and Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines (domestic only).

Now THIS gets me mad (Among a million other things about this administration)! ***************************************** Bush plan cuts pubcast funding Tue Feb 4, 2:10 AM ET Add Entertainment - Hollywood Reporter to My Yahoo! By Craig Linder WASHINGTON (The Hollywood Reporter) --- The $380 million budget that President Bush (news - web sites) has proposed for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting will not be enough to keep public broadcasters on the air, the head of the federal agency fears. In the budget message he proposed to Congress on Monday, Bush called for $380 million in federal spending for the CPB in the 2004 fiscal year, down from the $390 million he proposed for fiscal 2003. "The president's budget would, if enacted, seriously compromise our ability to deliver the services we are required by law to provide to the American people," CPB president Robert Coonrod wrote in a statement with the heads of the nation's three other public broadcasting agencies. The combination of a May deadline for public television to convert to digital broadcasting and replace its satellite distribution system and competitive issues that are forcing public radio stations to explore going digital is placing unprecedented pressures on the CPB's budget, the executives said. "Public broadcasters are able to set priorities and live within strict budget parameters, but without additional funding, we cannot build an entirely new, federally mandated, technological infrastructure while also delivering the public services required of us," Coonrod and the others wrote. The proposed $2.2 trillion budget proposal Bush sent to Congress on Monday could also mean that broadcasters that don't speed their transition to digital could face millions of dollars in new federal taxes. Broadcasters still using the analog spectrum after the nation's proposed 2006 switch to digital television would have to pay the FCC (news - web sites) as much as $500 million each year to continue using that spectrum, under legislation Bush proposed as part of his 2004 budget plan. Bush proposed a similar analog spectrum-use tax in his previous budget proposals, though the broadcasting industry's allies on Capitol Hill doomed the measure. National Association of Broadcasters president Edward Fritts said in a statement that his trade group will again try to derail the use tax. "Congress has wisely rejected spectrum taxes on broadcasters for the past several years because lawmakers recognize the timetable for the transition to digital television will be determined by consumer acceptance and not by arbitrary government dictates," he said. "Broadcasters should not be saddled with an unfair spectrum tax, which would ultimately slow the transition to digital and harm consumers." The FCC received a budget proposal of $280 million, largely flat compared with last year's levels.

Keep those hexes coming, ladies Still doing cauldron duty.;-) Actually, it is sad. I can understand her feelings. BTW, Spacey has been a Director of the Old Vic for quite some time now, and has been instrumental in keeping it afloat. They're lucky to have him.

More on Kevin and the Old Vic. So he might out himself tomorrow? Interesting. (Ev - Sorry to bring in my political viewpoint. I got carried away. Won't happen again. Can you close your tags? I don't know how to get back to the regular font) **************************************** This is LONDON 04/02/03 - News and city section Spacey to join Old Vic By Luke Leitch, Arts Reporter, Evening Standard Actor Kevin Spacey was poised to announce today that he is to direct three plays at the Old Vic in the next three years, it is believed. But reports that Spacey is to become "artistic director" were greeted with bemusement by West End insiders because it already has an artistic director. Matthew Warchus, responsible for Life x 3 and Art, was appointed only 12 months ago. Double Oscar-winner Spacey, already an Old Vic board member, has supported the venerable but troubled theatre for years. In 2001, he hosted a star-studded fundraising gala at the Waterloo venue in aid of New York's firefighters. A source said that while it is possible that Spacey might become artistic director, it would be problematic. "The Old Vic is not a state-funded theatre like the National and the RSC. It is a commercial theatre, there to make money, and you can't programme a commercial theatre in that way," said the source. Speaking in January last year the theatre's owner, former actress Sally Greene, praised Mr Warchus's "huge, huge enthusiasm" and adding that he had "the final say on all artistic matters". Last night however Greene refused to comment on the reports linking Spacey with the Old Vic, adding: "I really don't know at the moment. There is an announcement due on Wednesday-I can't confirm anything." The Times also today reported that Spacey might also use the conference to end speculation in the media about his sexuality. Spacey, 43, arrived in the UK at Luton airport this week and has been staying at a London hotel. He has always been discreet about his private life. In 1998 he said: "It's not that I want to create some bullshit mystique by maintaining a silence about my personal life, it is just that the less you know about me, the easier it is to convince you that I am that character on screen." In a 1999 interview with Playboy magazine he said of women: "For them, it's a challenge. They want to be the one to turn me around," adding: "I let them."

Fixing itsy bitsy font.

(moonstar)Keep those hexes coming, ladies You ain't see nothin yet! (Mari)Still doing cauldron duty.;-) Who is on for the weekend? I can work Saturday if you'll take Sunday?

(Linda) (moonstar)Keep those hexes coming, ladies You ain't see nothin yet! (Mari)Still doing cauldron duty.;-) Who is on for the weekend? I can work Saturday if you'll take Sunday? Sisters, broom is fired up and I'm ready to go.

Thank goodness the Jersey girls are on top of things. . . and that somebody else is working the weekend.;-) Brace yourself for the snow, sisters . . . brooms may have to do double duty come tomorrow.

Ooops, I "slipped" with Mari (she posted at the same time I did), We're even looking at little white stuff down around the Austin area if this weather pattern holds.

The Spring is listed today and tomorrow only at http://www.geourl.org/ and our geourl page is at http://www.spring.net/geourl.html

WGA Nominations Original Screenplay Antwone Fisher ....Written by Antwone Fisher; Fox Searchlight Bowling for Columbine ....Written by Michael Moore; United Artists/Alliance ....Atlantis/Salter Street Films/Dog Eat Dog Films Far From Heaven ....Written by Todd Haynes; Focus Features Gangs of New York ....Screenplay by Jay Cocks and Steven Zaillian ....and Kenneth Lonergan, Story by Jay Cocks; ....Miramax Films My Big Fat Greek Wedding ....Written by Nia Vardalos; Gold Circle ....Films/HBO/MPH Entertainment/Playtone Adapted Screenplay About a Boy Screenplay by ....Peter Hedges and Chris Weitz & Paul Weitz, ....based on the novel by Nick Hornby; Universal ....Pictures/Studio Canal/Working Title Films/Tribeca ....Productions About Schmidt .... Screenplay by Alexander Payne & Jim Taylor, ....based on the novel by Louis Begley; New Line ....Cinema Adaptation .... Screenplay by Charlie Kaufman and Donald ....Kaufman, based on the book The Orchid Thief by ....Susan Orlean; Columbia Pictures Chicago .... Screenplay by Bill Condon, based on the musical ....play, book by Bob Fosse and Fred Ebb and the ....play by Maurine Dallas Watkins; Miramax Films The Hours .... Screenplay by David Hare, based on the novel by ....Michael Cunningham; Paramount ....Pictures/Miramax Films

Thanks for info Mari and Terry. You're right snow is due in tonight. But the sisters will make it with ease.

Karen and Ev: Going to see AS Byatt tomorrow; she's promoting the whistling woman. I'll buy it tomorrow and have her sign. I guess this is more for Karen, are you going to re-read the books before you read "The Whistling Woman" or have you already started and finished it? (don't tell me anything about it, I read a review in Book magazine and it got 4 stars out of 5, so not too shabby, eh?)

Better get your tickets, Karen;-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Mamet's "SEXUAL PERVERSITY IN CHICAGO" starring MINNIE DRIVER, opens at the Comedy Theatre 14 May 03, following previews from the 3 May 03, and booking to 2 Aug 03. Booking is now open!! Hollywood British star MINNIE DRIVER will be making her West End debut. Her film credits include "Good Will Hunting" and " An Ideal Husband". ~~~~~~~ West End debut, my foot!

Gaah! I checked the Random House site and only the Boston appearance is shown. She was in SF last month. I've only just started rereading the books.

In Book Magazine it looks like she only did San Fran 1/24 San Diego 1/29 LA 1/30 NYC 2/3,4,5 Philly 2/6 Boston 2/7,8 I would expect she'd do more, but winter and weather...

No, she never seems to come into the middle of the country. She only thinks we have coasts.

(Karen)No, she never seems to come into the middle of the country. She only thinks we have coasts. LOL, a woman who is so erudite, only thinking the US has no middle section???? certainly you jest! ;) I'll ask her tomorrow why she doesn't visit the middle US:)

Where is Earnest???? Judi is a nominee though. ;-) AARP Honors Films That Appeal to Elderly NEW YORK - "About Schmidt," about a retiree on a search for self-discovery, and "Far From Heaven," an homage to the female-driven melodramas of the 1950s, are among the nominees for "Best Movie for Grown-ups" from AARP The Magazine. This is the second year the publication is giving its "Chaise d'Or" awards, a takeoff on the Cannes Film Festival's Palme d'Or, to films that appeal to older moviegoers. The winners will be announced March 11. "For years, our 23 million readers have complained to us that Hollywood doesn't make enough films for them," editor-in-chief Hugh Delehanty said Thursday. "We instituted these awards both to steer them toward the excellent films we've found out there, and to encourage filmmakers to make even more such movies in the future." The other nominees for best film are "The Hours," about three women with ties to Virginia Woolf's novel "Mrs. Dalloway," and "The Quiet American," about a journalist in 1952 Saigon. Other categories include "Best Intergenerational Film," "Best Grown-up Love Story" and "Best Movie for Grown-ups Who Refuse to Grow Up." ~~~~~~~~~ If you'd like to vote, go here: http://www.aarpmagazine.org/entertainment/Articles/a2003-02-04-mag-movies-awards

Oh, and btw, I have to PAY to see her $2

As far as I know, she's never come here, though I think I recall Denver being on her last book tour, the rest East Coast.

The Mail Weekend Magazine - From Gill, a friend in Liverpool: **************************************** I know some of you have previously mentioned watching the likes of The 1900 House or The 1940's House. The next show to be made later this year will be set in the Regency era. They are now taking applications and the article below taken from the Daily Mail's Weekend mag goes into further detail. Austen Powers Could you be behind the next Jane Austen hero or heroine? The team behind The Edwardian Country House are looking for volunteers to live and love by the morals of the novelist's era. Mary Greene peeks behind the doors to see what we can expect from Channel 4's Regency mansion. It is late summer in 1811 and, to your mother's fervent excitement (let's call her Mrs Bennet), you have been invited to a house party a Mr Darcy's country residence, Pemberley. Fortunately, England's roads have been much improved in recent years, and so country life is not nearly as dull as it used to be. Now fashionable people can gad about and visit their friends for weeks at a time. Maybe the gentlemen will enjoy talking about politics, for the poor old King has gone mad and his ludicrous, fat son, the spendthrift Prince of Wales, has been Regent for only a few months. Doubtless some guests will have been to the Prince's recent midsummer fete at Carlton House in London's Pall Mall. Two thousand guests drank iced champagne and dined off silver dishes, while the dining table was dressed with an artificial stream stocked with fish, which may help explain why the party cost �120,000. So there will be plenty to talk about after dinner at Pemberley. But the real business of the country house party will be matchmaking. Alliances will be made, old gentry titles will be traded for new money. But it is also where a girl with looks or wit - but no fortune - will hook a husband of better standing if she makes him fall in love with her. In the era that invented romantic love, that promoted sensibility over sense, a Regency country house party, dealt with adroitly by a young woman and her chaper�one, could set her up in style for the rest of her life. It was a game of flirtation and charm played for the highest stakes. And now, in our own era - where courtship is a forgotten ritual and sex is easier to come by than romance - a new Channel 4 TV series is to give a houseful of young people the chance to live for a summer by the morals and manners of Jane Austen's day. The makers of the hugely successful Edwardian Country House, 1900 House and 1940s House series are sending out Invitations to a Regency House Party, to be broadcast later this year. For ten weeks this summer, in a residence the producers describe as 'a cross between Pemberley and Northanger Abbey', their guests will live a life loosely based on Austen's characters, authentic in every period detail. This is more than Big Brother in muslin frocks. If they enter into the spirit o it, says producer-director Caroline Ross-Pirie, there is a fine chance that romance will blossom. Ross-Pirie is looking for a party of ten unattached people, aged under 35; at this age a Regency miss would have been on the shelf, she readily allows, but she wants them old enough to play the marriage game seriously. 'We are looking for the social mix that you might have found in a Jane Austen house party,' she says. 'We thought the best way to re-create this mix was to look for modem day versions of the characters in her novels. However, we would certainly not rule out anyone because they didn't fit the part exactly. We are looking for people who share a similar personality, background, or profession to Austen's characters, but not necessarily all three in one person. We are not demanding carbon copies'. The host could be a gentleman of fortune like Mr Darcy. There will be a Mr Bingley, wealthy, but less so, and a George Wickham type, of amiable manners but not to be relied on. There should also be a clergyman; maybe ( not as boring as Mr Collins, who would hardly have been a welcome house guest, but more of an Edmund Bertram - from Mansfield Park - idealistic enough to take his calling seriously and not be in it for the money. As for the ladies, Ross-Pirie is looking for an heiress of inferior birth, who is so rich that this shortcoming can be glossed over. There could be a Miss Bennet who has only her charms with which to win a husband, and a more brittle society fashionista such as Caroline Bingley. There should be a mousey, modest Fanny Price and an older hostess, sophisticated enough to entertain the Prince of Wales. Ross-Pirie says she has already been approached by several titled ladies willing to appear on the show. There will also be older chaperones to conspire in the business of matchmaking; applications are welcome from real-life mothers and daughters. And there will be occasional dinner guests, maybe a figure such as a risqu� poet of the Lord Byron type, or a dashing army man; a famous pugilist or one who could rival the celebrity Lady Emma Hamilton, whose party piece was standing on the dining table, striking artistic poses dressed in classical drapes, dampened, the better to cling to her curvaceous body. However, potential house guests should not be deterred if their natural charms do not lend themselves to transparent d�collet� gowns or Mr Darcy-style breeches. The Regency period did not frown on artificial aids. 'Men and women wore stays,' says A social historian Dam Rooke, who is historical consultant to the a series. 'Ladies wore false wax bosoms to get the right look and you could even buy false buttocks. Our people in the house can a look lovely... if they're willing to put themselves through it'. It will help if the ladies are accomplished, can dabble in watercolours, play the harp or guitar, or embroider. As yet, the house has not been finally settled on; it is likely to be in the heart of rural England, with an estate grand enough to allow for a gentleman's country pursuits. The location will remain secret 'It will be very unspoiled. We don't want houseguests going out and having the 21st century, or a motorway, flying in their faces,' says Ross-Pirie. 'They will be able to go a on long walks, riding and sketching.' Her problem is finding a house where the bathrooms and all mod cons can be sealed off; where the owners will be prepared for the electricity to be cut off and replaced by candlelight 'I'm convinced that a lot of canoodling went on in dark corners,' she says. 'Though the chaperones will have more fun. A young man could play around with an older married woman, but not with a young girl.' Naturally, such a house would have been run by an army of servants (in�cluding a chef who can emulate the Prince Reg�ent's legendary cook Antonin Careme, whose menus ran to 36 entrees). But, although 22 staff will be in costume and have to abide by Regency proto�col upstairs, behind the baize doors they will have recourse to laundries and modem kitchen equip�ment. They are there to do their jobs, not to live the Regency life. 'This is the real Jane Austen - and servants aren't part of the story,' says Ross-Pirie. Producers plan to start the series with a ball at Brighton's Royal Pavilion. This is where introductions will be made, where a lady's ankle may catch a suitor's eye on the dance floor - but it is later, at the house party proper, that they will really get to know one another. And how will they spend their days? Regency gentlemen would be unlikely to rise for breakfast, having each put away three bottles of port the night before. But, having had hot choco�late in bed, our heiress might emerge for a girly breakfast ball by mid-morning. This is when a dancing instructor would teach her the latest dance steps. No sign of the men, either, at 'nuncheon' , the first real meal of the day. So, although Sense And Sensibility, Jane Austen's first novel, won't be published for another four months, a lady might well strike a pose on her Grecian sofa with Mrs Radcliffe's 'The Mysteries Of Udolpho. Or polish her manners perusing Regency Etiquette: The Mirror Of Graces, by a Lady of Distinction, a rare, contemporary guide to polite behaviour. 'There were hundreds of similar books later in the 19th century, as the middle classes became more afflu�ent and you could jump from shopkeeper to baronet within a generation,' says Rooke. 'But, for now, society is still quite strati�fied - and there aren't many books to help avoid the gaffes.' He is writing his own, to teach his young ladies in the Channel' 4 house how to take tea and step out of a coach. Meanwhile, the gentlemen could be boxing, playing billiards or joining the ladies in amateur dramatics. Dinner is served early at 6pm but lasts for hours, accompanied by large quantities of alcohol. Alas, once the ladies have withdrawn, the gentlemen simply pass a chamber pot around the table. What? Surely not Mr Darcy, our romantic hero? 'Believe me, Mr Darcy would have done that,' says Rooke. 'In many ways it was a less self-con�scious society than ours. It was a lot earthier than Jane Austen, if your understanding of Jane Austen has been from televi�sion. We'll deal with the things she doesn't tell you.' At least the house guests will have no worries about the 21st century, for their mortgages will be paid for them and their bosses provided with temps while they are away. 'We make provision for them to put their normal life on ice,' says Ross-Pirie. From her experience of past series she expects they will adapt quickly. 'It's amazing to watch, but we are so influenced by our environment. People will smell different; not unpleasantly so - but our Regency ladies' hair was rather lustrous because they brushed it instead of washing it and stripping the oils.' Ross-Pirie's biggest worry - at least until an heiress elopes by post chaise with a soldier - is safety, due to the proximity of all that gossamer muslin to flickering candles. But that was always a hazard... and guests were not always careful. Lord Alvanley was a pop�ular house guest, but was so reckless that servants were made to sit up outside his bedroom in case he set it on fire. He extin�guished his candles by throwing them on the floor, or simply by pushing them, still alight, under the bolster. Once, know�ing a fellow guest was uncomfortable in the country because it was quiet, he hired a coachman to drive back and forth outside his window all night, recreating the noises of town by crying, 'Half-past two and a stormy night.' Lord Alvanley, of course, was a man of fortune until he gambled it all away. Maybe Mr Darcy's wealthier guests will nurture eccentricities of their own. What nobody seems to doubt is that romance will be in the air. Away from the distractions of today, girls will rediscover their allure, and men will be smitten. 'Dalliance will happen,' says Rooke, with absolute confi�dence. 'Some will need instruction, some will find they take to it naturally. I'll be intrigued to see what happens. It's very much an experiment. But they do have free will� and that's what will make it so interesting.' And that is why one guest should be a writer. Five young men of varying fortunes and five unmarried girls will need someone to keep a satirical eye on them. http://www.regencyhouseparty.co.uk/index02.htm

Re Minnie D. She was the guest on Will and Grace this week. Playing a scudsy Britsh gal who was fooling around with Karen's philandering husband. She made a play for Jack. Had the worst costumes on I've ever seen!

What a great reality show Regency House seems to be. Hope it is shown over here. Saw Minnie D. Costumes were awful but IMO were supposed to be for her character. How funny Karen and Minnie fighting over "her gay" as Karen referred to Jack.

And now, in our own era - where courtship is a forgotten ritual and sex is easier to come by than romance - a new Channel 4 TV series is to give a houseful of young people the chance to live for a summer by the morals and manners of Jane Austen's day. Not if they use most of the period fanfic as a basis! ;-) 'Ladies wore false wax bosoms to get the right look and you could even buy false buttocks. LOL! The infamous 'stunt butt' makes another appearance. Now, this is a program I'd watch, especially if they have a tempting Mr Darcy character. They do seem to be fixated on him, don't they? *counting number of mentions* ;-)

Austen Powers/Murph There aren't many books to help avoid the gaffes. How about watching P&P a 1000 times? Does that qualify you? Finally a reality show we can all sink our teeth into! Saw The Quiet American last night. Michael Caine was so great. He really does get better and better. Brendan Fraser was somewhat dorky as the American, which I think was supposed to be a part of the character but he has that tendency. I did like him in Gods and Monsters. Very touching. But TQA is another Miramax movie that Harvey W didn't want to release in US. MC talked him into it. Every seat in theater was taken, applause at end. MC role would have been too old for CF but can see how he could fit into GG book so well.

Didn't go see AS Byatt as we were slammed w/ 22 inches of snow (SO reminiscent of New Years 1999 in Chicago:)) But, I'll survive. Stayed over friends house and drank ourselves silly while watching Buffy and then (get this!) Reservoir Dogs... WHAT a combination! :)

(Laura) Stayed over friends house and drank ourselves silly What a great way to spend a snowstorm. WOT No P&P?!!

Vermeer by Howard Nemerov Taking what is, and seeing it as it is, Pretending no heroic stances or gestures, Keeping it simple; being in love with light And the marvelous things that light is able to do, How beautiful! a modesty which is Seductive extremely, the care of daily things. At one for once with sunlight falling through A leaded window, the holy mathematics Playing out the cat's cradle of relation Endlessly; even the inexorable Domesticates itself and becomes charm. If I could say to you, and make it stick, A girl in a red hat, a woman in blue Reading a letter, a lady weighing gold... If I could say this to you so you saw, And knew, and agreed that this was how it was In a lost city across the sea of years, I think we should for one moment be happy In the great reckoning of these little rooms Where the weight of life has been lifted and made light, Or standing invisible on the shore opposed, Watching the water in the foreground dream Reflectively, taking the view of Delft As it was, under a wide and darkening sky

Keeping it simple; being in love with light I think this matches very well what Griet senses in the studio. Thank you Murph!

Karen, are you having a conversation with yourself on the other topic with invisible font? ;-)

Seeing that it is one before the AA noms are announced, we have the Razzie nominations: RAZZIE Voters �SWEPT AWAY� by Madonna, Murphy, Britney, Benigni � And �STAR WARS� Big budget box office bombs, big name embarrassments and one of 2002�s biggest box office hits are featured among nominations for The 23rd Annual Golden Raspberry (RAZZIE) Awards, dis-honoring the year�s Worst Achievements in Film. �Winners� (if that�s the right term here!) will be announced in ultra-low-budget ceremonies scheduled for 11am/PST Saturday, March 22 at the Four-Points Sheraton Hotel in Santa Monica, the now traditional 24 hours BEFORE That Other Award Show, a.k.a. �The Giving Out of the Little Gold Naked Men�� Competing as 2002�s Worst Picture are Eddie Murphy�s THE ADVENTURES OF PLUTO NASH (which cost over $85 million and grossed under $5 million), the first joint effort from Mr. and Mrs. Madonna SWEPT AWAY, Madonna- Wannabe Britney Spears� less-than-auspicious screen debut CROSSROADS, former Oscar� winner Roberto Benigni�s wooden-headed (and horribly-dubbed) remake of PINOCCHIO, and George Lucas� disappointing 5th entry from a galaxy far, far too long, STAR WARS EPISODE II: ATTACK OF THE CLONES. Joining Murphy and Benigni in Worst Actor are Adriano Giannini for SWEPT AWAY, Steven Seagal in HALF PAST DEAD and 1999 Worst Actor �Winner� Adam Sandler with two titles, ADAM SANDLER�S 8 CRAZY NIGHTS and his wretched remake of MR. DEEDS. Alongside Britney and Madonna vying for Worst Actress will be former Oscar� darlings Angelina Jolie (LIFE OR SOMETHING LIKE IT) and Winona Ryder (MR. DEEDS) as well as RAZZIE Repeat Offender Jennifer Lopez (ENOUGH and MAID IN MANHATTAN). Lopez was also a Worst Actress nominee with 2 ti les last year, but lost out to Mariah Carey in GLITTER. Madonna, with 4 previous Worst Actress �wins� and 4 nominations this year alone, plus a Worst Actress of the Century award, is now the undisputed Female RAZZIE Champion. Other familiar names listed among contenders for Tinsel Town�s Tackiest Trophy include former Female RAZZIE Champion Bo Derek (MASTER OF DISGUISE) 2001�s biggest RAZZIE �winner� Tom Green (STEALING HARVARD) and Oscar� winners Robin Williams (DEATH TO SMOOCHY) and Christopher Walken (THE COUNTRY BEARS). A complete list of nominations is included with this press release. The 2003 RAZZIE ceremony will commence with a glitzy Opening Number (�All That RAZZ!� a parody of guess-what-tune from likely Oscar� contender CHICAGO) and then rip-and-tear its way through some 11 categories in under an hour. Among this year�s categories are such long-term RAZZIE traditions as Worst Screen Couple and Worst Remake or Sequel and a brand new one, Most Flatulent Teen-Targeted Movie, designed to dis-honor the often moronic movies Hollywood is forever aiming at the acne-and-braces set. Nominees were determined by mailing ballots to 537 Golden Raspberry Award Foundation members throughout 38 U.S. states and a dozen foreign countries. The award itself is a handcrafted golf-ball-sized raspberry atop a mangled reel of Super 8 film, spray-painted gold. It has an estimated street value of $4.89. 23rd Annual RAZZIE Award� Nominations KEY: (*) Indicates Former Oscar� Winner or Nominee (#) Indicates Former RAZZIE� Winner or Nominee Worst Picture THE ADVENTURES of PLUTO NASH (Warner Bros.) CROSSROADS (Paramount) Roberto Benigni�s PINOCCHIO (Miramax) STAR WARS: EPISODE II: ATTACK OF THE CLONES (Fox/Lucasfilm) SWEPT AWAY (Screen Gems) Worst Actor Roberto Benigni (Dubbed GODZILLA-Style by Breckin Meyer) PINOCCHIO*# Adriano Giannini/SWEPT AWAY Eddie Murphy/ADVENTURES of PLUTO NASH, I SPY and SHOWTIME# Steven Segal/HALF PAST DEAD# Adam Sandler/ADAM SANDLER�S 8 CRAZY NIGHTS and MR. DEEDS# Worst Actress Angelina Jolie/LIFE, OR SOMETHING LIKE IT*# Jennifer Lopez/ENOUGH and MAID IN MANHATTAN# Madonna/SWEPT AWAY# Winona Ryder/MR. DEEDS* Britney Spears/CROSSROADS WORST Supporting Actor Hayden Christensen/STAR WARS/EPISODE II: YADA-YADA-YODA Tom Green/STEALING HARVARD# Freddie Prinze, Jr./SCOOBY DOO Christopher Walken/THE COUNTRY BEARS* Robin Williams/DEATH TO SMOOCHY* WORST Supporting Actress Lara Flynn Boyle/MEN IN BLACK II Bo Derek/MASTER OF DISGUISE# Madonna/DIE ANOTHER DAY# Natalie Portman/STAR WARS: EPISODE�WHO CARES?# Rebecca Ramijn-Stamos/ROLLERBALL MOST FLATULENT TEEN-TARGETED MOVIE (New Category!) ADAM SANDLER�S 8 CRAZY NIGHTS (Sony/Columbia) CROSSROADS (Paramount) JACKASS: THE MOVIE (Paramount) SCOOBY DOO (Warner Bros.) XXX (Sony/Revolution) Worst Screen Couple Adriano Giannini & Madonna#/SWEPT AWAY Roberto Benigni* & Nicoletta Braschi/Benigni�s PINOCCHIO Hayden Christensen & Natalie Portman# STAR WARS/EPISODE II: SEND IN THE CLONES Eddie Murphy# & EITHER Robert deNiro# (SHOWTIME) Owen Wilson (I SPY) or Himself Cloned (THE ADVENTURES OF PLUTO NASH) Britney Spears & Whatever-His-Name-Was/CROSSROADS Worst Director Roberto Benigni/PINOCCHIO* Tamra Davis/CROSSROADS George Lucas/STAR WARS/EPISODE II: ATTACK OF THE GROANS * Guy Ritchie/SWEPT AWAY Ron Underwood/THE ADVENTURES of PLUTO NASH Worst Remake or Sequel I SPY (Sony/Columbia) MR. DEEDS (Columbia/New Line) Roberto Benigni�s PINOCCHIO (Miramax) STAR WARS/EPISODE II: WHAT-EVER (20th Century-Fox) SWEPT AWAY (Screen Gems) Worst Screenplay THE ADVENTURES of PLUTO NASH, Written by Neil Cuthbert CROSSROADS, Screenplay by Shonda Rhimes Roberto Benigni�s PINOCCHIO, Screenplay by Vincenzo Cerami and Roberto Benigni* STAR WARS: EPISODE II: THE BOREDOM CONTINUES, Screenplay by George Lucas* and Jonathon Hales SWEPT AWAY. Screenplay by Guy Ritchie WORST �ORIGINAL� SONG �Die Another Day� from DIE ANOTHER DAY, written by Madonna and Mirwais Ahmadzai �I�m Not a Girl, Not Yet a Woman� from CROSSROADS, Written by Max Martin, �Rami� & Dido Armstrong �Overprotected� from CROSSROADS, Written by Max Martin and �Rami� NOMINATIONS PER FILM: CROSSROADS � 8 Nominations STAR WARS EPISODE II and SWEPT AWAY � 7 Nominations Each Roberto Benigni�s PINOCCHIO � 6 Nominations THE ADVENTURES OF PLUTO NASH � 5 Nominations MR. DEEDS and I SPY � 3 Nominations Each DIE ANOTHER DAY and SHOWTIME � 2 Nominations Each

The Moment of Truth for Academy, Actors (Variety) - For the film biz, Tuesday is the second biggest day of the year. At 5:38 a.m. PST, the kudos season shifts into Phase Two as Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences president Frank Pierson and Marisa Tomei (news) will announce nominees for the 75th Oscars. Hanging on their every word while sitting in the audience will be 500 individuals, including studio workers, Oscar campaigners and reps from 200 media outlets. All three network morning shows, CNN, E! and the BBC will air live coverage of announcements of 10 categories (picture, director, script, foreign-language film, etc.). Immediately after the announcements, Academy staffers hand out press kits with the complete lists, and campaigning begins again as studios and contenders map out plans for the next five weeks. HISTORICAL REFERENCE The idea of turning the nominations into a live TV event goes back to 1955. After getting huge ratings for the first two televised Oscar shows, NBC figured the nominations announcement could garner big numbers as well, so it was done as a primetime show. A few eager (and sometimes tipsy) nominees gathered at nightclubs around town to hear Louella Parsons and others read their names. But after two years, this short-lived ritual was dropped. Nearly 30 years later in 1987, the Academy revived the live announcement gambit by convincing all three networks to broadcast it on their East Coast-based morning shows. Everyone will gather at the Academy's lobby, to be admitted to the Samuel Goldwyn Theater upstairs about 40 minutes before the announcements. The hour is painful for those attending, but Academy publicity coordinator Leslie Unger points out that the Academy serves a buffet breakfast in its lobby to ease the pain. There is also an open bar -- and a surprising number of people take advantage of it. (Well, you know what the press is like.) According to Unger, more than 100 requests for credentials were turned down this year. "Interest in attending and covering in person has continued to grow each year, but unfortunately our theater hasn't," she said. Unger adds that security procedures since Sept. 11 have been heightened as well, with background checks and photos for everyone approved for a credential. In November, the Academy sent out applications for press credentials to cover the announcements and started gathering publicity materials on potential contenders from the studios. LIKE A FORTRESS At about 9 p.m. Monday night, two dozen staffers, including Academy executives Bruce Davis, Ric Robertson and John Pavlik, will go into lockdown on the building's upper floors. Accounting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers will bring its typed-up results and Academy staffers will make 1,200 copies, to be included in press kits that will also contain comments about the nominees. "Everyone who is in the building at 9 p.m. cannot leave," said Unger. "All of our telephones are shut off, fax line modems are disabled, and people are requested not to bring cell phones into the facility. We take it very seriously." A few crews are allowed in the theater on Monday, but most crews wait until 12:30 a.m. Tuesday. They can work until 3:30 a.m., when the theater is locked down and Pierson and Tomei will rehearse, coordinating their readings with the slides that will pop up behind them. After the announcements, the real chaos starts, as everyone tries to hook up the media with the nominees. "Everyone needs to know where their (nominees) are, to get them maximum exposure," said Michele Robertson, a marketing and PR campaign consultant for Focus Features, among others. "Getting reaction out there is just the first part of the process of being nominated and it's important, especially in a competitive year like this." Want Richard Gere, Renee Zellweger or Rob Marshall? They're in Paris. Nicolas Cage and Michael Caine? London. Meryl Streep and Martin Scorsese? Ready to make statements in New York. Julianne Moore, Adrien Brody, Kathy Bates? Los Angeles. As one "ET" producer puts it, "Anybody willing to show their gratitude to the Academy will certainly find a place to do it on our show."

In the Who Cares Dept. Matthew Perry(Friends) and Hank Azaria (voices on The Simpsons) will join Minnie Driver in the David Mamet play "Sexual Perversity in Chicago"on the West End in May .

(article)RAZZIE Voters �SWEPT AWAY� by Madonna, Murphy, Britney, Benigni � And �STAR WARS� When I first saw the names Murphy,Britney together, I must have read it too fast and thought the article included Britney Murphy too. Am so glad it didn't - I really like her and think she's a very versatile actress. Still haven't seen 'Just Married.' Anyone have a review? It's still playing here so it can't be too bad. I know, I know, it's another teen flick. I can't believe she's the same actress from 'Clueless' who played Cher's friend, Tai. That's what I mean by versatility.

Thank you for the two very interesting articles Karen. Can't agree more with the Razzie's. How funny. Love it. And will ofcourse be tuned in tomorrow a m for live Oscar noms. This is great fun.

Can't agree more with the Razzie's But, but...I liked J. Lo in MIM:-)) She's also laughing all the way to the bank

Oscar Noms just read off Best Supporting Actress Kathy Bates, About Schmidt Julianne Moore, The Hours Queen Latifah, Chicago Meryl Streep, Adaptation Catherine Zeta-Jones, Chicago Best Supporting Actor Chris Cooper, Adaptation Ed Harris, The Hours Paul Newman, Road to Perdition John C Reilly, Chicago Christopher Walken, Catch Me if You Can Best Actress Salma Hayak, Frida Nicole Kidman, The Hours Diane Lane, Unfaithful Julianne Moore, Far From Heaven Renee Zellweger, Chicago Best Actor Adrian Brody, The Pianist Nicolas Cage, Adapation Michael Caine, The Quiet American Daniel Day-Lewis, Gangs of New York Jack Nicolson, About Schmidt Best Director Rob Marshall, Chicago Martin Scorcese, Gangs of New York Steven Daldry, The Hours Roman Polanski, The Pianist Pedro Almodovar, Talk to Her Best Original Screenplay Far From Heaven Gangs of New York My Big Fat Greek Wedding Talk to Her Y Tu Mama Tambien Best Adapted Screenplay About a Boy Adaptation Chicago The Hours The Pianist Best Picture Chicago Gangs of New York The Hours Lord of the Rings-The Twin Towers The Pianist

Lord of the Rings-The Twin Towers Oh dear! Highly predictable and very competitive. Thanks, Karen!

But it was shut out of acting (naturally) and Peter Jackson was passed over. Good, v.g. ;-) Meryl Streep is the omission in Best Actress. Guess that studio snafu is responsible. As I recall, when it was announced, that was the day Oscar ballots were due in, so the publicity news wouldn't have impacted it, as they were already sent it.

I think I heard that Harvey has 38 nominations for his four films. When you see the full listing, there is such complete domination by the same films. Best Cinematography (*hee hee hee* another LOTR shutout, as it should be!) Chicago - Dion Beebe Far from Heaven - Edward Lachman Gangs of New York - Michael Ballhaus The Pianist - Pawel Edelman Road to Perdition - Conrad L. Hall Best Art Direction-Set Decoration Chicago Frida Gangs of New York The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Road to Perdition Best Costume Design Chicago Frida Gangs of New York The Hours The Pianist Best Editing Chicago Gangs of New York The Hours Lord of the Rings The Pianist Best Sound Chicago Gangs of New York The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Road to Perdition Spider-Man Best Music, Original Score Catch Me If You Can - John Williams Far from Heaven - Elmer Bernstein Frida - Elliot Goldenthal The Hours - Philip Glass Road to Perdition - Thomas Newman Best Music, Song Chicago - Fred Ebb, John Kander (For the song "I Move On".) 8 Mile - Eminem, Jeff Bass, Luis Resto (For the song "Lose Yourself".) Frida - Julie Taymor, Elliot Goldenthal (For the song "Burn It Blue".) Gangs of New York - Bono, The Edge, Adam Clayton (I), Larry Mullen Jr. (For the song "The Hands That Built America".) The Wild Thornberrys Movie - Paul Simon (I) (For the song "Father and Daughter".) Best Makeup Frida The Time Machine Best Effects, Sound Effects Editing The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Minority Report Road to Perdition Best Effects, Visual Effects The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers Spider-Man Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones Best Documentary: Feature Bowling for Columbine Daughter From Danang Prisoner of Paradise Spellbound Le Peuple migrateur Best Foreign Language Film Ying xiong (China) Mies vailla menneisyytt� (Finland) Nirgendwo in Afrika (Germany) El Crimen del padre Amaro (Mexico) Zus & zo (Netherlands)

Renee Zellweger, Chicago Ka-ching! Best Foreign Language Film Zus & zo (Netherlands) I just saw this 2 weeks ago. It was cute, but Oscar? Best Supporting Actor *extrememly* competitive. Nicolas Cage, Adapation V. glad to see this. Thought he was great. Chicago - Fred Ebb, John Kander (For the song "I Move On".) By far the best IMO of the 5. At least my favorite. Meryl Streep is the omission in Best Actress. I think she has a much better shot in Supporting Actress category. Esp in that field. Thanks, Karen.

I'm surprised Frida received so many nominations. It has done poorly at the BO.And no one gave it a WOW review.Most just complimented Salma on her efforts to get it made. First hispanic actress , though to receive Best Actress nom. With 38 nominations Harvey must be dancing up and down Soho. Wha'happened to Richard Gere? He got lost in the Chicago hoop-la. I thought he held that film together.

I wasn't all that thrilled about Frida either; most are commenting about Alfred Molina being overlooked. Wha'happened to Richard Gere? There are always too many potential nominees for this category. Something's got to give. But I'm sure he's taking it in his Zen... ;-)

First hispanic actress , though to receive Best Actress nom. Rita (?) in West Side Story? Meryl Streep is the omission in Best Actress. (Dorine), I think she has a much better shot in Supporting Actress category. Esp in that field. If that's the case it's too bad for CZJ, who should win. Meryl should have been in the Best Actress category. I hope Nicole Kidman gets it over RZ. But it looks vvg for Renee. Needles to say, The Pianist is my choice for Best Picture, Actor, Director. But how likely is that?

(Moon)Needles to say, The Pianist is my choice for Best Picture, Actor, Director. But how likely is that? Ditto. And Zero.

LOL! Hey, when the director can't even set one toe into the country...not likely. ;-) (Dorine), I think she has a much better shot in Supporting Actress category. Esp in that field. I'm not big on that rationale. I prefer to put them where they belong. The ridiculous placement of all The Hours actresses is...er...ridiculous IMO. Their parts were completely balanced in terms of screen time. But they've certainly made it possible for Nicole to take it this year.

*yippee* *yippee* I can't remember who I told about these films but I just read this. You must see these, they're amazingly good. From IndieWire: "Trilogie" Nabbed for U.S. Release by Magnolia Magnolia Pictures' Eamonn Bowles is the latest dealmaker to broker a pact in Europe. The American distributor and exhibitor closed a deal on Monday for Lucas Belvaux's French/Belgian "La Trilogie," a trio of new feature films from the actor turned director. The films hit Bowles' radar in Toronto, achieved greater attention in Rotterdam this year and Bowles sealed the pact here in Berlin. In a conversation with indieWIRE, at Monday night's crowded European Film Market party in the Berlinale Palast, Bowles discussed the acquisition. The films in Belvaux's "Trilogie," each with a different story but all set in Grenoble, France, uses primarily the same cast while highlighting different characters in each film. In the first feature, "Un Couple Epatant" ("An Amazing Couple"), a marriage is "put under pressure by the strange behaviour of the hypochondriacal husband." The comedy is followed by "Cavale" ("On the Run"), a film noir about "an extreme-left-wing terrorist who escapes from prison and proves that dinosaurs can still cause a lot of damage." It stars the director, Belvaux. Finally in "Apres La Vie" (), the film offers a "cross-section of modern life in Grenoble," including "a loving cop (who) has for years been scoring morphine for his addicted wife." In a unique plan, Bowles indicated that Magnolia will open the trilogy in the United States in July. Each installment will open two weeks after the previous one. Bowles added that he will look to the success that the three films had in their French release when he is mapping out a strategy for bringing the films to theaters this Summer. ~~~~~~~~~~ I think the article got the order of the films wrong. They should be seen as follows: "Cavale" ("On the Run"), break the drama with the comedy "Un Couple Epatant" ("An Amazing Couple") and then the dramatic "Apres La Vie" ("Afterlife").

Will put it on my list, Karen. I loved the "Blue", "White" and "Red" trilogy. I've seen two very good films lately which I recommend: Costa-Gavras latest "Amen" and "�tre et Avoir" an amazing French documentary. Both released in late 2002.

Will put it on my list, Karen. I loved the "Blue", "White" and "Red" trilogy. ] Oh they are the BEST... I try to talk EVERYONE into watching them. I'd be interested in seeing Decalogue.

A "heads up" for fans of The Three Colors trilogy: goodies-packed DVDs of all three films with commentary tracks, featurettes, a bonus short film, etc. are to be released on March 4th, according to Netflix. Think I'll have to give them a whirl; I couldn't find the films you mentioned, Karen :(

Thanks for all the information and noms Karen. JM receiving double nomination is interesting. To those in the know does that mean the Academy members want her to receive at least one? Personal choice RZ and Chicago, I think she's got a good chance. Was glad to see Sir Michael's nom too.

Just wanted to share... I had dinner with a lady involved in the making of The Fast Runner (Atanarjuat) tonight. It was interesting to hear about her life in the Inuit village where she spent ten years and that in the end despite the big success in the art house circuit the producers never got all of their money back. The distributors are the ones who profited from it. :( She came to Alaska to present a documentary about village life impacted by wannabe-helpful government bringing prefab houses to the Inuits to replace their traditional abode. (anyway like I said, I just wanted to share since I'm always so jealous ;) of all the reports from coastal drooleuses and their brushes with the cinema crowd (right Dorine? :) ) BTW this was very informal: 4 French-speaking folks in a Thai restaurant for 3 hours; we showed each other kids' pictures and such...)

Shakespeare's Globe Spinning to America By Robert Hofler (Variety) - It only took a few hundred years. Shakespeare's Globe Theater leaves London to make its American debut this fall in a two-month tour of the United States. Under the auspices of 2Luck Concepts, the theater company will bring its much-acclaimed all-male version of "Twelfth Night" to at least six U.S. cities, kicking off in late October at UCLA's Freud Theater. Under the direction of Mark Rylance, who also plays Olivia, the gender-bending staging of the Bard's romantic comedy opened last year at London's Middle Temple Hall, the venue of the play's first recorded staging in 1602. In keeping with the Globe's authentic presentation of Shakespeare, 2Luck Concepts is looking for American venues that can replicate the footprint of Middle Temple Hall with its extended thrust stage. At present, the Freud is the only traditional theater booked to present the production. "But the auditorium is not being used," said John Luckacovic, director of 2Luck with his wife, Eleanor Oldham. "The audience fits on risers on the stage of the Freud." Duplicating the design of Middle Temple Hall limits seating to between 300 and 500. Chicago's Shakespeare Theater will present the production at Navy Pier. [Ed note: But that's where the company resides, at a fabulous Globe Theater replica.] A ballroom will be used on the campus of the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor. And the Guthrie Theater in Minneapolis is currently looking at everything from high school gymnasiums to a cave on the bank of the Mississippi River. Other cities on the tour include Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. Despite a rave review from Ben Brantley in the New York Times, the Globe's production of "Twelfth Night" is not currently booked for Gotham. Open weeks in the tour are early October and mid-December, not the ideal time for optimum box office. "In many ways, we're not in the commercial world but rather the performing arts-center world, with venues that are more attuned to risky undertakings," Luckacovic said. "We are producing the tour, but finding the venues that will pay for it." The tour of the 33-member company is capitalized at around $140,000 a week. Shakespeare's Globe Theater, a replica of the original Globe, was the vision of American actor-producer Sam Wanamaker, who died in 1993. The company and its new venue opened four years later, and has toured Germany and Japan.

Studios want their prints all over additional screens Feb. 12, 2003 By Nicole Sperling With the Academy delivering few surprises in the Oscar nominations, most distributors are sticking to their existing release patterns for nominated films. Those few surprises are seeing studios scramble to get prints added across the country, joining an already congested marketplace. Miramax's big winner, "Chicago," with 13 nominations, had structured its entire release strategy around Tuesday's Oscar nominations, opening small on 500 screens and pushing back its expansion until last weekend. The strategy seems to have paid off, with the film grossing $64 million. The New York-based operation intends to expand "Chicago" onto 300-400 more screens, hoping to surpass the 2,000-screen mark this weekend. But Miramax has quite a bit of juggling on its hands. After dropping about 500 screens in the past week for its "Gangs of New York," the company is now gunning to get the Martin Scorsese-helmed picture -- which garnered 10 nominations, including best picture -- onto a substantial number of additional screens during the next few weeks. The film, which has been in theaters since Christmas and has generated more than $70 million in revenue, may be a more challenging sell considering that its latest weekend per-theater average had dropped below the $1,500 mark. In addition, the company is expanding "The Quiet American," which received a best actor nom for Michael Caine, onto an additional 80-100 screens this weekend, targeting primarily the New York and Los Angeles markets. The film has take in $1.3 million in boxoffice receipts in its very limited 44-screen run. Miramax is also looking to expand "Frida," based on Salma Hayek's nom for best actress, but considering the film has played through most of its markets -- generating an impressive $23 million -- the company has not yet nailed down exact locations. "The Hours," which received nine nominations, including best picture, will get a sizable jump at the boxoffice this weekend, with Paramount expecting to send it onto 450 additional screens for a total screen count of about 1,000. The film, which also received noms for Nicole Kidman, Julianne Moore and Ed Harris, could add a couple million dollars more to its current gross of $22 million. Focus Features' "The Pianist," which earned seven nominations for the Roman Polanski-directed Holocaust story, may receive one of the most sizable gains from the added Oscar publicity. Running on only 300 screens for the past six weeks, the film has generated $9 million for a per-theater average of $3,000. According to Focus distribution president Jack Foley, the film will expand to 500 screens across the country. Targeting the over-35 male and female audience, "Pianist" has faced significant competition from "Adaptation," "About Schmidt," "The Hours" and, to a lesser degree, "Gangs of New York." Foley is hoping that by keeping the film small he'll be able to capitalize on the nominations -- including best picture, best director and best actor -- to the greatest degree. "We've kept the film fresh, recognizing that the film was holding to a certain demographic," he said. "We've been very careful about nurturing it so the picture would be around for this very moment, rather then playing out quickly." The other best picture nominee, "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers," is unlikely to receive much of a boost considering that the film has already earned a phenomenal $320 million since its December release. It will get the requisite hike because of the added buzz, but it might be tough to find additional audiences beyond hard-core fans.

(Odile)(anyway like I said, I just wanted to share since I'm always so jealous ;) of all the reports from coastal drooleuses and their brushes with the cinema crowd (right Dorine? :) ) BTW this was very informal: 4 French-speaking folks in a Thai restaurant for 3 hours; we showed each other kids' pictures and such...) Seems like it was a wonderful evening. And how nice to be interested in each other's children. Not many brushes with the cinema crowd would get that personalized attention. Good for you. Thanks for report Karen.

Sounds like you had a good time, Odile. Congrats.

FYI... The Orange British Academy Film Awards will be shown on BBC America at 1.00pm Pacific Time on Sunday 23 February 2003.

Thanks, linda! Here is a very insightful interview with George Clooney. He is obsessive! Recommended reading: http://www.observer.co.uk/life/story/0,6903,636209,00.html

A word about Lucas Belvaux's "La Trilogie" and how it is not like KK's Decalogue, IMO, which makes it even more remarkable. Each of the movies is set around the *same* group of characters. The stories all intersect. You see the same scene in different movies but from another POV and it will go off into that character's life. He filmed the movies all at the same time and took the footage to make three separate films, representing three different genres. The director himself plays a major character in the first film because the original actor dropped out at the last minute. He doesn't really appear though in the other two films.

One more thing. I don't recommend it for Evelyn, as there is a druggie in it. ;-)

LOL, Karen! Will wait for it to make it to the Tropics. ;-)

(Karen) One more thing. I don't recommend it for Evelyn, as there is a druggie in it. ;-) But does he puke in the toilet;-)

"She" does a lot of horrible, disgusting things.

(Karen) "She" does a lot of horrible, disgusting things. Thanks for saving me ten bucks;-)

Thanks for the GC interview, Moon! V.v. funny and insightful.

Ditto, Moon, the interview was a very good read.

Ditto, ditto Moon (or whichever way you can repeat the last to postings;-))

(Evelyn) Thanks for saving me ten bucks;-) First of all he didn't 'puke', he used a suppository;) And that movie does sound fantastic (no, not Trainspotting, already saw that!!!!); Karen is this something that is out now, older, on video/dvd, etc...???

The article said they won't open until this summer. I saw somewhere else that it will screen at the Tribeca FF, so any NYers might want to catch it there and not have to wait two weeks between films.

I know this isn't place to post this, but seeing that it has to do with Hollywood and actors and Iraq and that stupid Bing guy;) Sean Penn is suing Stephen Bing over breach of contract. Bing is the guy who impregnated Liz Hurley, nonetheless, Penn is accusing the sometime producer of reneging on contract because of his position on Iraq and why we shouldn't be there, going, whatever. Well now Spike Lee has gotten into the act (no pun intended) by telling people at the Berlinale that our government should be more like their government (pretty funny when you think of it) meaning more unified and that Germany, France and Belgium should be applauded for standing up against the big bad americans, blah blah blah. Now, when Hollywood and Politics coincide (Reagan, anyone?) things become a disaster, because who exactly is running the country? Well Congress (thank you to some stupid Boston lawyer) has just filed an injunction to stop Bush from declaring war because the constitution states that only congress can eclare war. Martin Sheen (who is NOT a president, just plays one very well on tv), Martin Scorsese (who will never get a golden nekkid guy now), and some other yahoos have come together disagreeing with our president, but doesn't want to sound anti-american. So this all begs the question??? Should I rent Possession???? :)

Hell, yes! I'm going for Igby Goes Down. LOL, Laura.

I don't even want to know what Igby Goes Down on;) I thought I was pretty funny:) (the whole Stephen Bing thing just drives me crazy because he's a pretty big loser, and why would Sean Penn want ANYTHING to do with him???) Well tonight it's MBFGW; tomorrow is some movie from netflix, and possibly, I'll rent Possession (yeah, when hell freezes over, or we really do bomb Iraq and stop talking about it!).

(Laura) ...possibly, I'll rent Possession (yeah, when hell freezes over, or we really do bomb Iraq and stop talking about it!). OK, hell isn't about to freeze over (that I know of) but we're promised an ice storm here for tomorrow and I rented it. I did not get to see it in the theater. I'm looking forward to the director's commentary! ;-)

LOL. I'm going for Possession, Greek Wedding and Sweethome Alabama. We're due heavy snow all weekend. Happy Valentines Day everyone.

Not too many surprises on the Oscar noms. I find it bizarre, though, that the only Best Actress nom for the Hours is NK's, who has the least amount of screen time. (Someone has counted it up--MS had over 40, JM had about 35 and NK about 30). I also found her story the least compelling, but "pretty girl has the guts to look like Jimmy Durante" wins out, I guess. MS got screwed. JM should be in the Best Category for Hours, but is being shortchanged for being too good this year, in two films. (Laura)So this all begs the question??? Should I rent Possession???? :) LOL, Laura! I have no problem with these people speaking their minds--if it's motivated by scruples and not the desire to curry some very easy favor with the Berlinale crowd. Time will tell--if they come home and say the same things to the hometown crowd, then it's scruples. Courage is staking out an unpopular position in the face of strong opposition, not pandering to the crowd.

Ooh Karen, thanks for the Valentines from Mark Darcy. He just made my day.

Courage is staking out an unpopular position in the face of strong opposition, not pandering to the crowd. ] Mari, I TOTALLY think they were pandering to the crowd. Scorsese and Hoffman, both said (and at black tie events, no less!); that we should be proud of Germany, France and Belgium for not falling into line with Bush and Blair. Of course they're pandering to the audience! And just so you know, I'm not pro-bomb Iraq. To me it seems like this cowboy of a president has some vendetta against him. (possibly because the psychic reminded him that every president who has been elected with the last number being 0 has ALWAYS been assassinated, but of course, that's just bullwash;) I prefer to keep Hollywood out of politics (c'mon how many people REALLY voted for Gopher, from the Love Boat???). I guess what I'm trying to say.... Why do these people feel the need to congratulate Germany, France and Belgium??? but yet, say they don't want it to come across as an anti-American sentiment (while in Germany????)? Rosario Dawson summed it up pretty well. It's scary out here now. It's either you're with the President or your not, and for some people who are gung ho about going after Hussein (the Saddam one); I hope they don't create havoc with the people who demonstrate against going to war. I'm tired of rhetoric; they found something, but then it's within the UN guidelines. C'mon, the reason why people treat the US as the supercop is because when they have no food, medical or war equiptment, they come to us. I would say they're is a higher anti-Bush sentiment right now. And now Blair is being called on the carpet for pandering to him! (it's a vicious cycle, honestly)

Word of the Day for Friday February 14, 2003 osculation \os-kyuh-LAY-shuhn\, noun: The act of kissing; also: a kiss. He had engaged in nervous osculation with all three of Lord Flamborough's daughters. --Thomas Sutcliffe, "The art of seduction, the skill of the tackle," [1]Independent, June 13, 1994 Osculation comes from osculatio, "a kissing," from osculari, "to kiss," from osculum, "a little mouth, a kiss," diminutive of os, "mouth." Happy Valentines Day!!

Dang!! Well, insert MD osculating BJ here...

MD, the obscure art of osculating. Buon San Valentino!

(Laura) I don't even want to know what Igby Goes Down on;) LOL! No, no, don't be afraid; it's a good movie about a teenager (Kieren Culkin, who did a great job, btw) with an extremely dysfunctional family (Susan Sarandon, Bill Pulman, Jeff Goldblum, Ryan Phillipe); Claire Danes (sp?) also has a supporting role. I was a bit apprehensive because of the title, but it was good. Grrr, MBFGW just went on "Long Wait" status on Netflix, which means if I wait for them I *might* see it in the next 6 months. Oh, well; 8 Women shipped yesterday, so I am pretty happy.

Oh, well; 8 Women shipped yesterday, so I am pretty happy. Why? Is worst movie I saw last year. Practically had to superglue my butt to the seat to stay there. I really wanted to walk out and I've only done it once before ever.

My friend bought MBFGW, which I didn't watch because my PMSing daughter was tired (can you believe that middle school has MONO going around???); so we watched (and don't you dare laugh!) freakin' Joe Millionaire and High School Reunion. Why, oh why are these 'reality' shows so popular??? Evan Marriott is a complete idiot (he couldn't spell cereal on Howard Stern or temperature); and my fave is they bill him as a $19,000/yr construction worker, yet he modeled underwear. And I believe they pay you pretty damn well to do that? (and will someone tame those curls! geez, louise!) Something MUST be going on with me, because I'm just in a foul mood lately. My boss is trying to increase sales (I work in investments); so I told him for every $100,000 fixed annuity sold we give away free duct tape and plastic window coverings... he didn't freakin' get it???? stupid git!

Apropos of Valentine's day;-D Cartoon in today's Houston Chronicle: Bouquet of Red Roses.. ....."To France and Germany"... ....."Love, Saddam"

As I said before on 165, Drool is not the place to discuss politics and world affairs and Hollywood stars' comments about same. Please take it the News conference, where there are many topics from which to choose. I will *delete* any further postings. http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/news/all/new

Oh, Karen, don't ruin my ranting... ;) Why can't I drool over stupid hollywood stars and their thoughts???? ;) If Colin Firth had anything to say on the subject???? ;)

From today's NY Times: February 15, 2003 The Virginia Woolf of 'The Hours' Angers the Real One's Fans By PATRICIA COHEN THE imitation of Virginia Woolf's writing was presumptuous. The obsession with her suicide irritating. The absence of her politics vexing. And the Nose? Don't get them started on the Nose. "Ugh," huffed Jane Marcus, an English professor at the City University of New York Graduate Center and the author of three volumes of essays on Woolf. "Imagine the great brilliance of Virginia Woolf to be turned into this absolutely maimed fool with a really ugly nose." One source of this travesty in Professor Marcus's view is Michael Cunningham, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author of "The Hours," a reimagining of Woolf's "Mrs. Dalloway." And the Nose is the elongated prosthetic attachment that adorns Nicole Kidman's face in the acclaimed movie version in which she portrays the Queen of Bloomsbury. This week the movie and Ms. Kidman were nominated for Oscars, ginning up even more publicity for a book and film that have helped turn Woolf into this season's It girl. Buyers are snapping up "Mrs. Dalloway," as book groups and college professors do a tag-team reading of it and "The Hours" (Farrar, Straus & Giroux, 1998). "Mrs. Dalloway" is the No. 1 paperback on Amazon's sales list, the first time the 78-year-old book has ever been a best seller. Woolf aficionados are certainly grateful for all the attention and sales. Still, at conferences, over dinner and through Virginia Woolf e-mail lists, many Woolfians are fuming, arguing that their idol has been turned into a pathetic, suicide-obsessed creature, her politics ignored, her personality distorted and even her kisses inaccurately portrayed. The Woolf that Professor Marcus knows and loves is funny, witty and clever, a committed feminist and pacifist, a productive writer and editor. In her view, Mr. Cunningham doesn't come close. "It's a tiny, insignificant spinoff from a great book," she said. "Neither Cunningham nor the filmmakers capture the multilevel quality" of "Mrs. Dalloway." "Nobody likes it," she declared, referring to her colleagues' reception of "The Hours" in both its forms. In reality, that assessment is too harsh. Some like the book and hate the movie, others hate the book and like the movie. And a few love both. "It's one of the great books of the 20th century," said Louise DeSalvo, whose own book, "Virginia Woolf: The Impact of Childhood Sexual Abuse on Her Life and Work" (Beacon Press, 1989), kicked up a storm among Woolf scholars, and is cited by Mr. Cunningham as a source in "The Hours." "And the movie was fabulous." But the passions engendered by the portrayal of their beloved Virginia in one, or the other, or both, are white hot. Artists have certainly always borrowed from the classics. Jane Rhys's "Wide Sargasso Sea" was a sequel to Charlotte Bront�'s "Jane Eyre"; Amy Heckerling's movie "Clueless" was based on Jane Austen's "Emma." And before everybody started borrowing from Shakespeare, he borrowed from Italian novellas. Cutting and pasting are staples of postmodern literature. Carping � and worse � are predictable. The Margaret Mitchell estate went so far as to sue the author of a sequel to "Gone With the Wind," "The Wind Done Gone," to try to prevent its publication. (The suit failed.) And it is no surprise that scholars are sensitive about outsiders trespassing on their turf. "I have to defend my territory," concedes Vara Neverow, the president of the International Virginia Woolf Society, with a just-doing-my-job matter-of-factness. But to many of the Woolf faithful, there is a bigger problem. They argue that the book and movie play into long-held, insidious views of Woolf that they have spent their professional lives repudiating. For years the standard take on Woolf was as the invalid lady of Bloomsbury, a frail, snobbish madwoman. It was not until the 1970's and 80's that feminist scholars finally rescued her from being a pinched neurotic. Professor Neverow, who is also chairwoman of the English department at Southern Connecticut State University in New Haven, makes a point of saying she does not want to attack Michael Cunningham. "Both the film and book are worthy creative efforts and deserve to stand on their own," she said, adding that she liked the movie even better the second time around. "But at the point where they begin to seep into representing Woolf as helpless and an emotional vampire, my hackles go up." "We fought hard to get her into a cultural perspective where she is respected, a remarkably productive novelist, publisher, critic, activist," Professor Neverow added. "But that is now being undermined by the Cunningham book and movie and I'm very uneasy about that." Brenda R. Silver, an English professor at Dartmouth and the author of "Virginia Woolf Icon" (University of Chicago, 1999), also finds this latest presentation of Woolf troubling. "There's a whole history of presenting Woolf as this neurotic, suicidal, bad-to-the-servants kind of woman, and for years Woolf scholars have been working against that," she said. "This image of her really should have disappeared years ago." Professor Silver couldn't finish the "The Hours" when she first picked it up because she was so annoyed by the "faux Virginia Woolf" writing and voice, she said. "My response was `if you want to read Virginia Woolf, then read Virginia Woolf.' " Virginia Nicholson, Woolf's great-niece, echoed those views in an article in The Times of London in January, although she conceded that as a member of the family, "from my angle, whatever they do is going to be wrong." Some criticisms were specific to the film. Moviegoers who see Ms. Kidman wading into the River Ouse at the film's beginning and end may have the impression that Woolf kills herself right after finishing "Mrs. Dalloway," her first great novel, and not 16 years later, in 1941, at age 59, after years of astonishing creativity. ("Oh my God," said Leslie Hankins, the vice president of the International Virginia Woolf Society, who is writing a book on Woolf and the cinema. "Did they have to drown her twice?") Particularly irksome to some is Ms. Kidman's pointed prosthetic nose. In a film review in The New York Times, Stephen Holden said the makeup gave Ms. Kidman an "uncanny physical resemblance" to Woolf, but that sentiment is vehemently disputed. "What really put me off was The Nose," Martha Musgrove, a lecturer and doctoral candidate at the University of Ottawa, wrote on a Virginia Woolf e-mail exchange. "Nicole Kidman wore a permanent frown and looked cross-eyed throughout the film, clearly distressed at this Thing in the middle of her face. Were Woolf's contemporaries preoccupied with her nose? It never really occurred to me that her proboscis was the defining feature, so to speak, of Woolf's appearance." In her lifetime Woolf was considered to have come from a family of great beauties. Her photograph appeared in Vogue London and the British photographer Cecil Beaton included her portrait in his 1930 "Book of Beauty," writing of her "chaste and somber beauty" and her "timid, startled eyes set deep, a sharp birdlike nose and firm pursed lips." "It was a mistake to make her so dowdy," Professor Silver said of Woolf's film portrayal. She argues that the dowdiness feeds into the "belief that intellectual women aren't stylish or fashionable or beautiful." For his part, Mr. Cunningham is perplexed by all the hullabaloo. "I wonder what movie those people are seeing and what book they're reading," he said. "The book I wrote and the movie that was made from the book do as much honor as was possible to her vitality, charm and brilliance." "To see it otherwise," he continued, "is a sort of cranky and willful misviewing." But that is to be expected. The question is not so much whether you like or dislike this or that characterization of Virginia Woolf, Professor Silver said, but "who claims to speak for the true Virginia Woolf � who owns her?" As Hermione Lee wrote in her celebrated 1997 biography, "Virginia Woolf's story is reformulated by each generation. She takes on the shape of difficult modernist preoccupied with questions of form, or comedian of manners, or neurotic highbrow aesthete, or inventive fantasist, or pernicious snob, or Marxist feminist, or historian of women's lives, or victim of abuse, or lesbian heroine, or cultural analyst, depending on who is reading her, and when, and in what context."

(Cunningham) "I wonder what movie those people are seeing and what book they're reading," he said. "To see it otherwise," he continued, "is a sort of cranky and willful misviewing." Can't speak to the books, but I have to agree. I've seen the movie twice and didn't see anything in the movie's portrayal to support what they're criticizing. I thought she came off as a brilliant woman, not a "maimed fool" or "invalid lady of Bloomsbury, a frail, snobbish madwoman," or "pinched neurotic." Sheesh! Some criticisms were specific to the film. Moviegoers who see Ms. Kidman wading into the River Ouse at the film's beginning and end may have the impression that Woolf kills herself right after finishing "Mrs. Dalloway," her first great novel, and not 16 years later There will always be stupid moviegoers. ;-)

Evelyn, you're man did well.... From BBC Online Friday, 14 February, 2003, 15:46 GMT Mendes triumphs at Oliviers Director Sam Mendes has become the first ever triple winner at the Olivier Theatre Awards, saying his love for partner Kate Winslet inspired him. [Awww!] Mendes collected the best director and best revival awards at the prestigious ceremony for his swansong plays Twelfth Night and Chekhov's Uncle Vanya and received a third trophy to mark his 10 years at the Donmar theatre. But Hollywood actress Gwyneth Paltrow was left disappointed after being pipped to the best actress award by Clare Higgins for Vincent in Brixton. [That evil eye is working all over the place on her. ;-)] Paltrow was nominated for her role in Mendes' production Proof for which she received critical praise. Click here to see the award winners in full Oscar-winning Mendes, 37, the partner of actress Kate Winslet, was given his awards in a surprise presentation in New York, where he is directing on Broadway [I didn't know Broadway snaked its way down and across the East River into Brooklyn]. He was sitting in the audience of a performance of Uncle Vanya with his actress partner Kate Winslet when he was told of his win [Bet they won't be at my matinees tomorrow and next month. :( ]. He said: "I want to say thank you to my partner, Kate, because these are two plays about love and it helps when you direct them, to have some personal experience," he said after gaining his composure. Predecessor The best actress in a musical was won by Joanna Riding who stars as Eliza Doolittle in My Fair Lady, building on the success of her predecessor last year. The show's Alex Jennings won the best male in a musical title. Lord Lloyd-Webber's lavish Bollywood show Bombay Dreams was beaten in the new best musical category by the Madness-inspired show Our House. Actor Simon Russell Beale was named best actor for Uncle Vanya but could not be at the ceremony because he was starring in Mendes' Broadway version of the play. But he thanked Mendes' for the "privilege" of working alongside him for 12 years. Vincent in Brixton, which has also transferred to New York, won the best new play, while Sir Trevor Nunn's Anything Goes was named outstanding musical production. Sir Trevor said: "I'm really delighted - since this marks my penultimate production at the National Theatre, it gives me an opportunity to say I've had a wonderful time for the past few years running the National. "It's an extraordinary collection of individuals who have somehow merged to become a coherent team - I'm very proud of them. This award will take morale to even higher levels." The awards are judged by stage experts and members of the theatre-going public. The 27th Oliviers - hosted by Clive Anderson at London's Lyceum Theatre, - will be televised by BBC Two on Saturday. Full list of winners: Outstanding musical production - Anything Goes (Olivier Theatre) Best costume design - Twelfth Night (Shakespeare's Globe) Best actor in a musical or entertainment - Alex Jennings (My Fair Lady, Theatre Royal Drury Lane) Best theatre choreographer - Matthew Bourne and company (Play Without Words, Lyttelton) Outstanding achievement in opera - Antonio Pappano (for opening season as music director of Royal Opera House) Best new opera production - Wozzeck (Royal Opera House) Best actress in a musical or entertainment - Joanna Riding (My Fair Lady, Theatre Royal Drury Lane) Best performance in a supporting role in a musical or entertainment - Paul Baker (Taboo, The Venue) Best entertainment - Play Without Words (Lyttelton Theatre) Best new comedy - The Lieutenant Of Inishmore (The Pit/ The Garrick) Outstanding achievement in dance - Robyn Orlin (Daddy, I've Seen This Piece Six Times And I Still Don't Know Why They're Hurting Each Other, The Pit) Best new dance production - Danses Concertantes' Polyphonia (Sadler's Wells) Outstanding achievement of the year - Gregory Doran and cast of Jacobean Season (Gielgud Theatre) Best director - Sam Mendes (Twelfth Night and Uncle Vanya, Donmar Warehouse) BBC award for best new play - Vincent In Brixton (Cottesloe and Wyndham's Theatre) Best lighting design - Bacchai (Olivier Theatre) Best performance in a supporting role - Essie Davis (A Streetcar Named Desire, Lyttelton Theatre) Best set design - A Streetcar Named Desire (Lyttelton Theatre) Best revival - Twelfth Night/Uncle Vanya (Donmar Warehouse) Most promising playwright - Charlotte Eilenberg (The Lucky Ones, Hampstead Theatre) Most promising performer - Noel Clarke (Where Do We Live, Jerwood Theatre Upstairs at the Royal Court) Best actress - Clare Higgins (Vincent In Brixton, Cottesloe/Wyndham's Theatre) Best actor - Simon Russell Beale (Uncle Vanya, Donmar Warehouse) Best new musical - Our House (Cambridge Theatre) Special award - Sam Mendes (for his 10 years as artistic director of the Donmar Warehouse)

(Dorine) [I didn't know Broadway snaked its way down and across the East River into Brooklyn]. Wonder if they got it mixed up with his future project, which is a musical for Broadway, that is under way? Can't remember which one it is though. Movie recommendation: "City of God" from Brazil. An amazing piece of filmmaking. Huge thumbs up. (and yes, it is subtitled)

"through Virginia Woolf e-mail lists, many Woolfians are fuming, arguing that their idol has been turned into a pathetic, suicide-obsessed creature, her politics ignored, her personality distorted and even her kisses inaccurately portrayed." The whiners are always with us.... I read the book and thought the film was v. faithful.Loved both Shades of the Janeites in UK who complained ad nauseam about the sexual undercurrents between Lizzie and Darcy in P&P2. Get over it! a And in the "Give 'em the Finger Department" "But Hollywood actress Gwyneth Paltrow was left disappointed after being pipped to the best actress award by Clare Higgins for Vincent in Brixton. Bull. She was thrilled to be nominated. Oliviers are the most political awards around. Besides...she has the Oscar. Thanks Dorine. I am happy for Sam Mendes; who should have gotten an Oscar nod for "Road to Perdition"!!!! (Am I getting to sound like Laura?...but no caps, boss;-)

(Evelyn) Shades of the Janeites in UK who complained ad nauseam about the sexual undercurrents between Lizzie and Darcy in P&P2. Wow, people actually *complain* about that? ;-) I am happy for Sam Mendes; who should have gotten an Oscar nod for "Road to Perdition"!!!! Finally saw it last week. It is beautifully done. (Karen) Movie recommendation: "City of God" from Brazil. An amazing piece of filmmaking. Huge thumbs up. (and yes, it is subtitled) You're right, it was amazing. Fascinating they used the residents as the actors and needed to ask permission from the local drug lord (who is in prison), so he could provide protection while filming. Didn't think I'd like it from the description. Funny how it was co-directed, but rarely hear about the woman director in articles, or at least little about her. She stopped by relatively briefly as a guest in our movie class on her way to the National Board of Review Awards dinner.

Best costume design - Twelfth Night (Shakespeare's Globe) I saw that one! Thanks, Dorine. Kate W was on Letterman last night, did anyone see it?

(MoonD) Yes, I saw her on Letterman. Thought she was good, and really laughed about the airbrushing. She's got a good sense of humor and a good sense of self as well as Sam Mendes and baby. Very entertaining. Thanks for all the news everyone.

Saw WAGW trailer today with 10 days to Lose a Guy . (Another loser:-(( But wish Kate Hudson had kept the role of Griet.She has a big following .

(Moon) Kate W was on Letterman last night, did anyone see it? Yes. She was great and Letterman was quite smitten (as he tends to be with all the young female guests). As Pam said, she joked quite a bit about the airbrushed GQ photos. She pointed out that in one of them you can see her reflection in the mirror, and it hasn't been digitally altered. She joked about her rear end in one of the pictures - "I've never seen one that high!" She also discussed American vs. British accents, at one point slipping back and forth between the two and saying, "Now I'm just showing off!"

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Cool it George: From CNN: Entertainment " TEMPER, GEORGE: At a press conference at the Berlin Film Festival for his film "Solaris" (which tanked in the U.S.), George Clooney , 41, didn't take a comment by one Turkish journalist lightly -- responding with what Reuters termed a stream of invective. In front of everybody, the journalist called the space movie "boring." "I find you fascinating," Clooney snapped back at the guy. "You crack me up, man. You just wanted to get up and be a rat, you know that? You just wanted to get up and say something rotten. What a jerk! I mean honestly, you know, what a (expletive) thing to say!" Clooney finished the fellow off by calling him "a jerk."

Whoa. I can see why the "boring" remark got George hot under the collar, but still....

V. Funny, Evelyn:) You know how I like to push the envelope (esp. where I personally know the boss:)) ;) Karen, you know that I mean no harm:)

This under the category of: If Colin Firth is mentioned in my local paper, I feel obliged to report.:-) Leanne Potts writes musings on popular culture. Today�s was "British actor�s art stunt is less than persuasive". Maligned Artist vs. The World, Part 34,261. An unemployed British actor (Ed note: This is where we can stop worrying that the entire article is about CF since, he's never been unemployed. ;-))sealed himself in a wooden crate the size of a portable toilet last week and mailed himself to London's Tate Museum to make a statment about how society mistreats artists............ Shelton's project was funded by a 10,000-pound grant (that's about $16,000 U.S.) from a foundation established by Charles Webb, a mistreated artist himself.........The movie (Graduate) grossed $98 million. Webb got nothing. For decades, Webb and his wife, Fred (like Cher or Madonna, she is just Fred) lived in poverty, working at a Kmart outside London and home-schooling their children. Then last year, film rights to their latest novel "New Cardiff" (Charles wrote it, Fred illustrated) were sold to a film company for an undisclosed amount. The film, "Hope Springs", stars Minnie Driver and Colin Firthand will be theaters in April. Webb and Fred used the proceeds to establish the Creative Minority Foundation. Each year the organization will give a grant to the artist who comes up with the best project showing how society treats creative people like dirt....... Fred, Charles and Dan aren't doing much to eradicate the stereotype of artist as weirdo. I'm not sure mailing yourself to a museum articulates to the world that artists are professionals deserving of society's respect. And Fred refused to answer my questions about the foundation unless I agreed to write an article reuniting her husband with his estranged brother in Las Cruces.[Ed. note: in southern New Mexico] Once again, not very professional.......... Shelton was the first winner of the Creative Minority award....... To apply for next year's Creative Minority grant, go to www.creativeminority.org.

(Ed note: This is where we can stop worrying that the entire article is about CF since, he's never been unemployed. ;-) LOL! Thanks Caribou. Hmmm, even though I don't consider myself an artist, maybe I should apply? ;-)

Thanks Caribou for article. Wonder if CF would crate himself up and ship over to me? What a piece of art to have. And I know just what room he would adorn.

(article)Each year the organization will give a grant to the artist who comes up with the best project showing how society treats creative people like dirt. (Karen)maybe I should apply? ;-) I saw the winkie but I think you should. Wonder if they would be able to rise above the hoi poloi and honor the creative but little-respected web mastering you do. In my opinion, you put together creative web pages which require an artist's eye and expert execution. Wonder if they can think outside the box of more conventional art media and totally off-the-wall stunts. Maybe you could apply during the next dirth of Firth.:-)

In the "oh man, this bites" department, two things! ;-) (1) The guy who has been picked to replace John Corbett in the Greek Wedding TV show is my favorite Colin lookalike. I always watch the programs he's on, mainly 'cause he looks like Colin. What am I going to do? :-( (2) Younger sister got called by a market research company to participate in a focus group about the Academy Awards show. They rated various clips from the program and then talked about what could be done to improve the show and the preshow.

(Karen)'cause he looks like Colin. What am I going to do? :-( Ouch - that is a tough one to call. If you really dislike GW this much, spend you time with "the real thing". That's why they invented videos and dvds ;-) btw - what's the name of "the guy" (just in case he should ever appear around here)

Did anyone see Kate Winslet, Kevin Spacey and Laura Linney on Charlie Rose last night? I was half asleep but I forced myself to stay awake and send powerful brain vibes and mind control messages to LL to mention something (anything!) about Love Actually. I guess I need to take some stronger brain vibe vitamins and sign up for another Bazooka Joe mind control course....

Here you go, Ev, recognition for Road to Perdition for the category in which it really shined. This *should* also mean he will get the Oscar, except for the inclusion of Chicago in the AA slate which makes it not so clearcut now IMO: Conrad Hall wins ASC honours for Road To Perdition Conrad Hall, who died on Jan 4 this year, took top honours at the American Society Of Cinematographers (ASC) annual Outsanding Achievement Awards in Los Angeles over the weekend for his work on Road To Perdition. The award was accepted by his son Conrad W Hall. Hall beat out Michael Ballhaus for Gangs Of New York, Pawel Edelman for The Pianist, Ed Lachman for Far From Heaven and Rodrigo Prieto for Frida. Hall is now the frontrunner for the Oscar in which he is nominated alongside Ballhaus, Edelman, Lachman and Dion Beebe for Chicago. Hall has won the ASC award on three previous occasions � for Tequila Sunrise in 1989, for Searching For Bobby Fischer in 1994 and for American Beauty in 1999.

Here's the page for Greek Wedding; his name is Steven Eckholdt, but I don't think that pic is too good. http://www.cbs.com/primetime/my_big_fat_greek_life/ This one is better: http://www.wchstv.com/abc/itslikeyouknow/steveneckholdt2.jpg

From THR: BAFAs to air live on BBC America NEW YORK -- For the first time, Americans will be able to watch the British equivalent of the Oscars live and commercial-free. Cable network BBC America has secured exclusive rights to the Orange British Academy Film Awards, commonly known as the BAFAs, and will air the event at 4 p.m. EST on Feb. 23 and repeat it in primetime over the course of the following week. E! Entertainment Television had covered the BAFAs in the past on tape. "Chicago" and "Gangs of New York" lead the field with 12 nominations each, followed by "The Hours" with 11, "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" with nine and "The Pianist" with seven. Peter Van den bussche, director of sales and international development at Touchdown Television, the event's international distributor, brokered the deal. The show will reach a potential of more than 1 billion viewers throughout Europe, Russia, the Middle East and China. Actor-comedian Stephen Fry will host the awards, which take place at the Odeon, Leicester Square in London. BBC Ameri a reaches 34 million homes, largely through digital cable and satellite.

*I'll* watch GW.LOL Actually have the video! I think Steven Eckholdt is better looking than "Adrian." Glad"Road to Perdition" is getting some recognition. I'm also hoping Paul Newman gets Supporting..As long as they're in an "old guy" mode this year;-)

In the moot point department: I loved MBFGW (the movie-now own the DVD), but how much of a TV series can you make of it?! Geez, how many episodes will it last? Perhaps I am just out of sit-com mode. Been watching too much Law & Order, am warped ;-)

The show is being called MBFGLife, so I'm sure it will be your usual family sit com, with a Greek-American twist. Can't you see the hilarity ensue from when they have their first family BBQ and the Greek relatives bring over a whole lamb to roast? *my sides are splitting just thinking about this* ;-)

Did anyone see Kate Winslet, Kevin Spacey and Laura Linney on Charlie Rose last night? I did, Maria; am anxious to see David Gale. Also enjoyed the interview with Ralph Fiennes and David Cronenberg; Ralph is getting to be practically a regular on Charlie's show! I saw Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, and enjoyed it. An impressive directorial debut from Georgie, IMO. Sam Rockwell is terrific in it; too bad he hasn't gotten more attention, he is brilliant in this.

(Karen) The guy who has been picked to replace John Corbett in the Greek Wedding TV show is my favorite Colin lookalike. I always watch the programs he's on, mainly 'cause he looks like Colin. What am I going to do? :-( You really think he looks like Colin? I've seen him in stuff for years, but never made that connection. Course I didn't pay attention to CF until relatively recently, either. Peter Sarsgaard is the one the one who really looks like Colin to me, most of the time. Especially in the (not so hot) movie The Center of the World. He has very similar facial expressions, but the similarity really ends when he opens his mouth. www.ugo.com/channels/filmTv/features/k19widowmaker/images/k19_4_th.gif (Couldn't get it to link) Seen him in pics with Maggie Gyllenhaal quite a bit. BAFTAs to air live on BBC America Maybe I should get my money back for the party and stay home to watch it for free. ;-) Speaking of Maggie Gyllenhaal, saw her and her brother Jake (he's a hot little number, but a *tad* young for me) and Kirsten Dunst during intermission of the Donmar's Twelfth Night at BAM Sunday afternoon. I don't follow them, but think KD and JG may be an item. Saw them a month ago at a basketball game but they didn't sit together (they did for the play). After halftime, she came out of the VIP tunnel with him then went back to her seat carrying a rather large flower (maybe fake) and looking quite smitten. She kept looking over her to the side, back toward his section and smiling. He spent a great deal of time talking to Chelsea Clinton and her boyfriend Ian who were sitting the row behind him. Thank God for binoculars! ;-) If anyone is or will be in the NYC area in the next month, consider seeing the Donmar productions of Twelfth Night and Uncle Vanya in Brooklyn. Uncle Vanya is next month for me. Loved the set design, esp the lighting design for 12th Night. Very minimalist, but effective. Never knew it could be so musical too. The Fool sang quite a bit and there was trio playing classical music in between. Had forgotten Mark Strong (Orsino) was in Fever Pitch til I read the bio in the Playbill. He wasn't in it much, but thought he was quite attractive. Had the stubble going and a really nice voice. Funny I liked him since I tend to like men with *considerably* more hair. ;-) Simon Russell Beale was a riot as well. Sam Mendes actual *Broadway* project is the Gypsy revival starting in April, I think. Must get my tix.

(Dorine) Peter Sarsgaard is the one the one who really looks like Colin to me, most of the time. Especially in the (not so hot) movie The Center of the World. I had to look, something about his look in this pic that does remind me... http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&id=1800020285&cf=pg&photoid=189030&intl=us

(Mari) An impressive directorial debut from Georgie, IMO. Sam Rockwell is terrific in it; too bad he hasn't gotten more attention, he is brilliant in this. Agreed!! That is a very good example Maria! Trying to find pictures with him where he resembles Colin is hit or miss. But it really struck me in that movie.

Sam Mendes actual *Broadway* project is the Gypsy revival starting in April, I think. Must get my tix. "I'm there, baby".... ..with Bernadette Peters too. (Mari) Also enjoyed the interview with Ralph Fiennes and David Cronenberg; Did they show clips of Spider?That's the role Karen and I had picked out for Colin. And I bet Colin did too.

Did they show clips of Spider? That's the role Karen and I had picked out for Colin. Yup, they did, but don't make me start crying again.

(Evelyn), That's the role Karen and I had picked out for Colin. And I bet Colin did too. LOL! And he was traumatised when he didn't get it. ;-))))

And he was traumatised when he didn't get it. ;-)))) Hardly. That script was never available to him. Even Cronenberg said last night that when the script came to him Rafe's name was attached and that was the *only* reason he read it. He didn't know the writer and probably wouldn't have given it a chance. Rafe's agent sent it to him.

(Karen)Even Cronenberg said last night that when the script came to him Rafe's name was attached and that was the *only* reason he read it. He didn't know the writer and probably wouldn't have given it a chance. Rafe's agent sent it to him. Now you got *me*crying.

Even Cronenberg said last night that when the script came to him Rafe's name was attached and that was the *only* reason he read it. He didn't know the writer and probably wouldn't have given it a chance. Rafe's agent sent it to him. Figured that would be one of the things he'd mention last night. Did he say that when they did a small reading several years ago Miranda Richardson happened to be one of the people doing it, but she wasn't necessarily pegged then for the role?

Shouldn't all this be on RF's topic? ;)

Shouldn't all this be on RF's topic? ;) As Tom would say, "it's a hard one to call." ;-) But not really, because we're carping about Colin not getting the role, which he wasn't even up for. Can't remember anything being said about Miranda Richardson.

(Moon), And he was traumatised when he didn't get it. ;-)))) (Karen), we're carping about Colin not getting the role, which he wasn't even up for. I'm losing my touch if I have to explain that I was playing on him getting the great lead role in Trauma. Not punny enough. :-(

ROTF, Moon! I just got it *hanging head in shame*

No mention of Colin :( ...just those silly Hollywood people. ;-) Hollywood Nominees Make BAFTA Trek 2 hours, 7 minutes ago By Adam Dawtrey LONDON (Variety) - A slew of Hollywood stars are flying into London for Sunday's British Academy of Film and Television Awards at the Odeon Leicester Square, despite the heightened state of alert in the U.K. following terrorist threats. Actor nominees Adrien Brody (news), Nicolas Cage (news), Daniel Day-Lewis (news) and Michael Caine (news) will brave the tanks that have been defending Heathrow Airport, but fellow nominee Jack Nicholson (news) said he won't make the trip. Salma Hayek (news), Nicole Kidman (news), Meryl Streep (news) and Julianne Moore (news) will be on hand for the opening of the actress envelope. The fifth nominee, Halle Berry (news), has yet to confirm whether she can come. In the director race, Martin Scorsese (news), Rob Marshall and Stephen Daldry are set to attend. Peter Jackson (news) is busy finishing his "Two Towers" DVD, and Roman Polanski (news) never shows up for gongs, even in countries he is allowed to enter. Supporting actress contenders Catherine Zeta-Jones (news) and Toni Collette (news) are confirmed to show, alongside Streep and Moore, but the fifth runner, Queen Latifah, has a prior engagement at the Grammys (news - web sites). THINNEST FIELD Thinnest field looks to be the supporting actor race, with only Alfred Molina (news) and Ed Harris (news) set to attend. Among those presenting awards will be Michael Douglas (news), Jennifer Connelly (news), Mena Suvari (news), Tim Robbins (news), Angelina Jolie (news), Gael Garcia Bernal, Miranda Richardson (news), Paul Bettany (news), Natascha McElhone (news), Kristen Scott Thomas, Ian McKellen (news), Jim Broadbent (news) and Richard Attenborough. However, all the U.S. celebrities could change their mind if terrorist threats escalate. Ozzy Osbourne's singer-daughter Kelly canceled a performance at the U.K.'s New Musical Express music awards Thursday due to safety fears. The BAFTA ceremony, sponsored by mobile phone company Orange, will be broadcast on pubcaster flagship channel BBC1. [and BBC America]

Oh, wait, there are some others....but I don't know if I can watch if Jack won't be there. ;-)

Every once in a while when it's apropos, references pop-up here to Meg Wood's Boyfriend of the Week site. This week is interesting and relevant to some past discussion here...check out her treatment of her first ever "unboyfriend of the week" -- Colin Farrell. http://www.megwood.com

And those of you who don't care about his major character flaws can do a quick search on the web to find out more about him and his unique brand of arrogant bastardness. ROTF...thanks Barb! The commentary on the 'Other CF' is hilarious!

Thanks, Barb. It was a great commentary indeed. What a pity that people like that still manage to become the object of mass adoration. If there were any justice, he'd be digging ditches, not making millions in Hollywood.

Thanks for all the links and news ladies. Will watch MBFGLife as I really enjoyed movie. Hope it does well.

Thought some of you might find this interesting (got it from Variety) After five years of planning, Kevin Spacey is darin' to play Darin. The actor will star in, direct and produce "Beyond the Sea," a movie about the life of singer Bobby Darin, set to begin shooting in June. Producer Mark Damon's MDP Worldwide has come aboard to fully finance and produce with Spacey's production shingle, Trigger Street. MGM is in negotiations to acquire North American distribution rights to the film, though no deal has yet been inked. "Sea" had once been planned as a Warner Bros. release, but Spacey bought the rights from Warner two years ago. Among the executive producers on the film is Arthur Friedman, who has worked on the project for 12 years. Spacey told Daily Variety on Wednesday that the budget will be "considerable." The film covers the 1940s through the 1970s, but as described by Spacey, "it's not a linear story. And not a docudrama." Details of the film's soundtrack must still be worked out, as must rights issues surrounding Darin's original recordings. But Spacey will sing songs including "Dream Lover," "Mack the Knife," "Splish Splash" and the title tune. "Kevin's passion for 'Beyond the Sea' is overwhelming and has consumed us as well," Damon said. It's been five years since Spacey first expressed an interest in bringing Darin's life to the big screen. "They say I'm too old," he lamented at that time -- Spacey was then 38. Darin died at age 37 when his heart gave out following heart surgery. Asked if he's too old now, Spacey laughed, "Bobby always looked a little older -- but if I waited any more I might be too old." Spacey proved his ability to imitate Darin on the "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" album, singing "That Old Black Magic" as a tribute to the performer. Spacey repeated when he sang during his hosting stint on "Saturday Night Live." Three years ago, Spacey said he planned to take six months off to devote to singing ahead of the Darin biopic, but added he would do the film "only when it can be done the right way" (Daily Variety, March 14, 2000). On Oct. 24, 2000, Spacey brought down the house when he sang two songs a la Darin before an all-industry party created to involve young Hollywood in the Motion Picture and Television Country House & Hospital. Since then, the actor has continued to work with Darin's conductor, Roger Kellaway. Spacey has continually emphasized that he wanted the Darin family to know he would treat the project "with respect." He sent letters to that effect to Darin's wife, Sandra Dee, and their son, Dodd. They will be portrayed in the film, which will have "many other good roles as well," Spacey said. Darin was told that he would not live past his late teens due to a severe heart condition. He set out to prove he could become a showbiz legend by age 25 and in fact became a big star in the music industry as well as finding success in nightclubs and in films. Over the years, the "Sea" project attracted writer Lewis Colick and writer-director James Toback, among others. Spacey said the film won't conflict with his new job as artistic director of the Old Vic in London, a job that doesn't start until fall 2004. "Sea" marks the second film jointly produced by Trigger and MDP after "The United States of Leland," which Spacey also starred in and directed. It was acquired by Paramount Classics at this year's Sundance Film Festival.

Thanks, Laura. I've been waiting for word on this one. Kevin really does resemble Bobby D. He sang a bit on Letterman last night; has a great voice. I know I'm probably the last person on earth to have seen it, but I finally rented Big Fat Greek Wedding. I thought it was funny. Not a "great" movie, but enjoyable. Anybody whose parents or grandparents came from "the other side" as it was called in our house--LOL!--will find things to identify with.

(Mari)Thanks, Laura. I've been waiting for word on this one. Kevin really does resemble Bobby D. He sang a bit on Letterman last night; has a great voice. Well it SHOULD be an interesting story. I never really gave it much thought about Spacey looking like Darin, but now that I think of it. I can tell you one thing, IT will be a major tearjerker! It's got everything a movie should have, drama, love, beauty, music and a startling twist:)

I've been hearing about this one for a long time. Spacey will be perfect. Wonder if they'll recreate scenes from those classic Sandra Dee-BD movies, like that one with Maurice Chevalier where her shoes come off when she kisses BD. Hmmm, and Robert Goulet was in that one too. ;-) Always turn the radio up when "Beyond the Sea" comes on.

(Karen) Wonder if they'll recreate scenes from those classic Sandra Dee-BD movies, like that one with Maurice Chevalier where her shoes come off when she kisses BD. LOL, that's the first thing I thought of!

At first I thought that was Darren as in Darren Stevens, Samantha's husband! LOL! We know Nicole Kidman is playing Sam... So now we will have Bobby Darin and in Miami those two kids who won that singing contest are filming an Annette Funicello and Frankie Avalon inspired film. We need Gidget next. I saw Renee last night on 60 Minutes, was so not impressed. A few revelations, working as a waitress at a topless joint was one. Of course, she always smiles on the set. All she has to do is think about her past. ;-)

No one has mentioned Sunday's The Music Man. *big sigh* Could Matthew Broderick have been more miscast? Next I suppose they'll want him to do John Raitt/Gordon Macrae's role in Carousel. Ugh! And Molly Shannon too. Waste of a part IMO. Nobody, but nobody can say Balzac like Hermoine Gingold. Too bad they couldn't have picked more talented and suitable musical actors instead of "names."

(Karen) No one has mentioned Sunday's The Music Man. *big sigh* I read a review of The Music Man ahead of time that focused on the miscasting of Matthew Broderick. Based on that review, I decided not to watch.... but about 15 minutes after it started I thought, what the heck, and turned on the TV. Marian had just arrived home from the library - it was the piano lesson scene. Right away I was squirming because Kristen Chenoweth's Marian was just.... wrong. I'm probably too accustomed to Shirley Jones's version. The killer for me was at the end of the song in that scene, when Marian remarks, "Well, if that isn't the best I ever heard!" In the film, Shirley Jones says the line as a reaction to her mother's multi-syllabic comment on Marian's unrealistic dreams about Mr. Right, but Amaryllis misunderstands and thinks it's a compliment about her piano playing. And I'm sure that's what Meredith Wilson intended - it's funny. In this version, Chenoweth said it sweetly to Amaryllis as a genuine compliment. And I thought, "I'm outta here; these people don't understand the material." So I never even saw Matthew Broderick. I spent the rest of the evening watching the film version, which I adore (if you couldn't guess that), and one big reason is that: Nobody, but nobody can say Balzac like Hermoine Gingold. Amen, sister! I can rarely restrain myself from saying it along with her when I watch. ("One Grecian urn" is pretty high up on my list of favorite sayings too.) Too bad they couldn't have picked more talented and suitable musical actors instead of "names." I think Broderick is a talented musical actor, but just wasn't right for this part - but some of the other choices did seem to be "stunt casting." I was afraid of exactly this sort of thing when I saw the casting for "Chicago", but they did a remarkable job of finding "names" who were also up to the demands of the roles.

Victor Garber is a VERY well respected broadway actor. Kristen Chenowith is also a VERY talented broadway comedic actress. I've seen so many versions of the Music Man (alas, not this one), that I find the Shirley Jones one insipid. I think the problem was the use of broadway actors and trying to transfer it on to the little screen. Obviously, on broadway, you're must be larger than life.

(Rika) And I thought, "I'm outta here; these people don't understand the material." So I never even saw Matthew Broderick. You would've been 'outta there' earlier if you had seen Broderick doing "Trouble in River City." As soon as he finished, a character said, "isn't he spellbinding" and I nearly lost it. I've seen high school Harold Hills with more charisma and talent. (Rika) I think Broderick is a talented musical actor His background isn't in musicals. Even he has admitted it was a stretch putting him in The Producers, but that part doesn't require anywhere near the same level of abilities as it would for a lead character like Hill. (Laura) Victor Garber is a VERY well respected broadway actor Yes, I know, but I even felt he was weak most of the time. (Laura) Kristen Chenowith is also a VERY talented broadway comedic actress. Yes, I know that as well and didn't mention her or Garber above, although I thought she looked a little too trashy for the sweet and prim Marian the librarian. Hey, the little kid who played Winthrop was great. Obviously, on broadway, you're must be larger than life. The old movie was perfect version was 1000x better. They should've just aired that.

Laura) Kristen Chenowith is also a VERY talented broadway comedic actress. Yes, I know that as well and didn't mention her or Garber above, although I thought she looked a little too trashy for the sweet and prim Marian the librarian. ] she was a perfect Sally Brown in the Charlie Brown musical on Broadway. ;)

I didn't like the movies to "The Music Man" or "Oklahoma". I have a problem with movie versions of the old musicals. "Gypsy", "Cabaret" and even "Chicago" worked much better. "The Other Side of the Bed" is a Spanish musical and it's opening the Miami FF tonight. Got great reviews.

(Karen) although I thought she looked a little too trashy for the sweet and prim Marian the librarian. Maybe that was the problem. She also seemed.... well, the word "chirpy" comes to mind.

(Karen) Spacey will be perfect. Wonder if they'll recreate scenes from those classic Sandra Dee-BD movies, like that one with Maurice Chevalier where her shoes come off when she kisses BD. Hmmm, and Robert Goulet was in that one too. ;-) I agree and when I saw him on Today and he mentioned the movie I noticed that he does indeed resemble BD. Come September with Gina Loalabrigida and Rock Hudson is another favorite SD/BD movie. Wonder who will play SD. Movie should be good, am looking forward to it. Thanks Laura. (MoonD) I saw Renee last night on 60 Minutes, was so not impressed. A few revelations, working as a waitress at a topless joint was one. Of course, she always smiles on the set. All she has to do is think about her past. ;-) Read an article in TV Guide about her not too long ago. Topless bar was mentioned but in article stated she kept her top on. (Mari) I know I'm probably the last person on earth to have seen it, but I finally rented Big Fat Greek Wedding. I thought it was funny. Not a "great" movie, but enjoyable. No, you're not. I just saw it during the blizzard. I agree. Not blockbuster calliber but I enjoyed it very much and found it very funny and entertaining. (Karen) No one has mentioned Sunday's The Music Man. *big sigh* Could Matthew Broderick have been more miscast? Next I suppose they'll want him to do John Raitt/Gordon Macrae's role in Carousel. Ugh! And Molly Shannon too. Waste of a part IMO. Nobody, but nobody can say Balzac like Hermoine Gingold. Too bad they couldn't have picked more talented and suitable musical actors instead of "names." Did see Music Man. Had wondered about casting of Broderick even before viewing but thought maybe would be a repeat of calliber of performance in The Producers. Sorry to say definitely wrong. Kept seeing Robert Preston, Shirley Jones and Hermoine Gingold on screen. Just made me ask Why.

The Music Man... Sorry, but that is Robert Preston's role and Matthew Broderick is just so NOT Harold Hill. Didn't bother to watch it the other evening. Broderick is very talented as a stage actor, but musical comedy is not his forte IMO. It happened to work in The Producers but I don't think that'll happen too often, and I really believe it was because he and Nathan Lane had a chemistry. I don't care that much for the movie version of Music Man - I've never quite understood the appeal of Shirley Jones, but I guess it's the available version. I wish all Broadway productions would be filmed and preserved for posterity. Well, maybe not ALL - Dance of the Vampires is hopefully really dead, not undead. Guess I'll just have to put on the Original Broadway Cast Album and listen to Preston and Barbara Cook. That's the performance I WISH I'd seen. Just a little too young.

(Kathy) I wish all Broadway productions would be filmed and preserved for posterity. They are: Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts Library. In house only, not for circulation. Didn't see TV's "Music Man"(saw the original on stage), but I thought Matthew Broderick was brilliant in "The Producers". I saw it twice, once with Nathan Lane's understudy who now has the role and he was equally good. I read where MB didn't plan to replicate Robert Preston's Harold Hill, but portrayed him as a more naive con man. Too bad it didn't work.

BAFTAS Tonight "Watch this star studded awards ceremony exclusively on BBC America - LIVE and COMMERCIAL FREE on Sunday, February 23rd at 4 pm/et, 1 pm/pt, with a repeat showing on Thursday, February 27th at 8 and 11 pm/et, 5 and 8 pm/pt. " Wanna take a bet "Lord of the Rings" wins Best Picture ;-)))

(Evelyn) a more naive con man Seems like somewhat of a contradiction in terms, doesn't it?

(Evelyn) a more naive con man (Rika)Seems like somewhat of a contradiction in terms, doesn't it? Exactly. Ostensibly.

Nope, Ev - The Pianist best picture -- Polanski best director -- DDL best actor -- Nicole best actress -- Christopher Walken best supporting -- Catherine Zeta Jones best supporting

Thanks for results Murph. Seems like they went for the dramatic this year. Did Polanski accept in person?

(Pam)Did Polanski accept in person? No, Adrien Brody accepted for him.

Is Roman locked out of England too?;-) I said to Evelyn, it was like the MLSF premiere--Harvey Weinstein and Matthew Modine.;-) Best moment--Charlie Kaufman's funny acceptance speech as read by Meryl Streep and her faux pas in saying "and I wish to spank . . ." I also liked Adrien Brody's and Daniel Day Lewis's speeches. I hate that Julianne Moore is getting little recognition for The Hours. Next time, JM, use a fake schnozz instead of a fake belly.;-) Saul Zaentz . . . has a short memory . . .

Hey Moon, Norah Jones racked 'em up! Well done! BAFTA party was fun. Nothing remarkable to report. Didn't get much time to talk to many as arrived approx 20 mins before the show started. And people actually sit and watch for the most part. Go figure. Many seemed very surprised by The Pianist wins. Was difficult to see who was there unless I had Loved Meryl Streep! Love Stephen Fry's comment that it was a good thing Spike Jonze's name wasn't William, LOL.

Got distracted gabbing..... Was difficult to see who was there unless I walked around all the tables while people were sitting eating and watching. Wasn't going to interrupt my dinner just for that. ;-)

(Mari) it was like the MLSF premiere--Harvey Weinstein and Matthew Modine.;-) *snort* Did you notice that Harvey has about three new chins? ;-) Best moment--Charlie Kaufman's funny acceptance speech as read by Meryl Streep Absolutely, and you could tell Charlie wrote it and not Donald. ;-) David Hare did not too pleased. Do you think it worthwhile to slo-mo through the montage of "great films of 2002" shown at the beginning to see if TIOBE was snuck in there?

I watched the show and was surprised it was one made especially for us; thought we'd be getting the UK programs. Thought it was OK, but am surprised about this reaction and had no idea that the interviewees were unaware of what they would face. From the Guardian: Ali G fails to win respect in the US One victim is reportedly considering legal action. Others claim exploitation. The public figures and minor officials tricked by comic Ali G into spoof interviews for his new US television series are not among his latest fans. Their collective failure to appreciate his flippant humour is unlikely to damage his reputation among his mythical Staines "massive" posse. But the refusal by most US TV critics to accord him any respect may prove more wounding. Determined to challenge conventional wisdom, Ali G - the creation of Sacha Baron Cohen - launched his first programme on the cable channel HBO by explaining he had crossed the Atlantic to help the US with some of the problems following "7/11". "Cohen in character is clueless as Caucasian hip-hop interviewer Ali, but nothing excuses joking about September 11 2001," observed Tom Shales in the Washington Post. "The word tasteless doesn't even begin to cover it." The first in the six-part series of Da Ali G Show, entitled Law and Order, was broadcast last Friday. In one interview Cohen, as Ali G, puts questions to former CIA director James Woolsey. "Let's talk about some conspiracy things. Let's go back to the grassy knoll," he says. "Who actually shot JR?" Mr Woolsey politely corrects the reference to JFK's assassination. Los Angeles-based television writer Lynn Elber is not amused: "If we give Cohen the benefit of the doubt and assume he's trying to drive home a point about American violence and the pop culture of Dallas and JR Ewing, we've just reached the Ali G mountaintop of wit. "Otherwise, he's busy making jokes about sex, about whether the seat in the UN marked Jordan is for Michael Jordan rather then the country, and then more jokes about sex." In another spoof interview during the show, the former US attorney general Richard Thornburgh is asked: "So when's it all right to murder someone?" Mr Thornburgh, shocked, replies: "Never". Ali G persists: "But what if de call your ma a ho?" This Friday's programme features the former UN general secretary Boutros Boutros-Ghali, who is asked: "Is Disneyland a member of the UN?" Future victims include Newt Gingrich, the former speaker of the House of Representatives, and Ralph Nader the consumer rights champion. Mr Nader is understood to be so irritated he is considering suing.

Norah Jones really did rack 'em up. The Texas singer's sultry jazz sound got her 5 Grammys including album and record of the year. A disc she thought would appeal only to jazz purists has sold more than 6 million copies worldwide and become the talk of the music business. Jones, who emerged last year after signing with the tiny Blue Note label, also won for best female pop vocal, best new artist and best pop album. The major awards had been widely expected to be a duel between Springsteen and Jones, the daughter of New York concert producer Sue Jones and Indian musician Ravi Shankar. Actor Dustin Hoffman called him Bruce Springstreet. The Dixie Chicks dominated the country awards for a low-key album they thought they might not even release. Natalie Maines dad, Lloyd Maines, an Austin favorite, coproduced the Chicks album and got to be onstage at the Awards. He had turned down a gig on Saturday Night Live with the Chicks last week because he would have had to cancel a gig for a 200 person audience in Austin. The night also featured a tribute to the late Bee Gees singer Maurice Gibb, who died last month, by brothers Barry and Robin. �N Sync sang a medley of the band�s hits.

(Terry) �N Sync sang a medley of the band�s hits. I cringed my way through it. Was nice to see Barry and Robin on stage afterwards, though.... and loved seeing Maurice's son up there with them.

(Karen)Did you notice that Harvey has about three new chins? ;-) Harve is going to need his own zip code pretty soon.;-) Re: Ali G--yes, these are US-specific programs, as you can tell from the guest list. My understanding is that his MO is the same in the UK, though, i.e., the "interviewees" have no idea that it's a set-up. I thought the show was very funny in spots. Liked his question to Dick Thornburgh about "hung juries." ;-) And I'd just like to add that the Philly Police Dept. acquitted itself *very* graciously.:-)

I put a few pictures (one of Norah Jones and her sister Anouska Shankar) and some comments on the Grammy's in a new topic in the music conference on on this little web page: http://www.spring.net/music/grammy.html

Empire has reviewed the Bafta broadcast, award by award and is highly critical of the broadcast: Long before a single award was presented at this year�s BAFTAs, the ceremony could already claim to have been a huge success, simply by attracting an enormous number of A-list stars, the like of which has never been seen for a film do in London. The cunning re-working of the ceremony, rescheduling it to go out before the Oscars has been a huge success for the British Academy, bathing the whole British film industry in reflected glory. Now all that's required is for the BBC to give the show the scheduling it deserves and put it out live. There�s a certain insanity first in delaying the broadcast of the BAFTAs to create edited highlights and then in cutting into Britain�s most prestigious film awards ceremony with the evening news, giving viewers the opportunity to check the internet for the winners of the biggest awards before that part of the show had been broadcast. [...] And so to our verdict. Well, masochistic as it might seem, watching the edited highlights on the BBC can never be the same as watching the full shebang and hearing the awards announced live. We want the full version next year and are launching our campaign for it right now. If you agree, email the BBC and say so by clicking here. http://www.empireonline.co.uk/news/news.asp?4560

There were more Hollywood stars at the BAFTA this year this all the previous years put together. I wanted to see British faces there....not Matthew Mondine ;-) Agree with Empire that the BAFTAS was made for the US audience. Sweet emotion on Michael Douglas' face when his wife won the BAFTA. Was *thrilled* to see "The Pianist" win. Holocaust films are generally not popular in Uk & Europe.Wish Adrien Brody would have won....or at least have him say something positive about the film..."everyone should see this film at this time in our history". But was nice to see DDL smile.What's with the shaved head...is this de riguer for shoe cobblers in Florence;-) (Mari)Saul Zaentz . . . has a short memory . . . Another of: "When in Rome..."

Heads up for Oscars: (Editing) Miramax Films ganged up on the competition at the picture-cutters ball, taking home two Eddies. "Gangs of New York," edited by Thelma Schoonmaker, and "Chicago," edited by Martin Walsh, won best edited dramatic feature and best edited comedy or musical, respectively, on Sunday night at the 53rd annual ACE Eddie Awards at the Beverly Hilton. (Art Direction) New Line's "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" won the period/fantasy feature category and DreamWorks' "Catch Me If You Can" took contemporary feature honors during the seventh annual Art Directors Guild Awards.

(Mari), Best moment--Charlie Kaufman's funny acceptance speech as read by Meryl Streep Absolutely! (Dorine), Hey Moon, Norah Jones racked 'em up! Well done! Loved it! Got it over M&M. ;-)))) NJ's cd was one of the ones I gave Colin on his birthday last year. Many seemed very surprised by The Pianist wins. A happy moment! Wanted Brody to get it too. You don't give out Best Picture and Best Director and ignore the wonderful performance of the actor that carries the film. He is in every single scene! As much as I like DDL, his performance in GONY was too OTT. The whole film was OTT as is Scorsese's ego. I'm hoping The Pianist gets all the Oscars. Surprised at Christopher Walken's win. Very happy for CZJ who deserves it, IMO. I also think that RZ thought she had it. It's looking more like Kidman for the Oscars too, and I am glad. The dresses: Rachel Weiz(sp), Nicole Kidman, Kristin Scott Thomas very lovely, and KZJ was an 8month knockout. Did not like RZ's dress with those stripes. BTW, I read that RZ sold her Beverly Hills home and bought a house in the Hamptons. She plans to live in NY. That puts her far away from Georgie boy. ;-)

(Karen)Do you think it worthwhile to slo-mo through the montage of "great films of 2002" shown at the beginning to see if TIOBE was snuck in there? No, been there, done that:-) (Loved Meryl Streep! Love Stephen Fry's comment that it was a good thing Spike Jonze's name wasn't William, LOL. LOL, brilliant moments by far. I thought SF was v.v. good. IMO, I love the fact that they get right down to giving out the awards, and it moves rather quickly. I'm thrilled that they don't have endless production numbers throughout the broadcast.

I missed seeing RC as a presenter;-) I'm thrilled that they don't have endless production numbers throughout the broadcast. Add commercials. But I did miss seeing the actual clips of the films instead of the montages & BBC voice-over.Who cares about the plot. "City of God"clip:-((....Thank you boss for saving me ten bucks.. I wish Stephen Fry would do the Oscars.

How did Daniel Craig look when he accepted for Conrad Hall's award for cinematography? Is he bearded, clean shaven? Describe, please. There isn't a picture to be found, alas. I don't get BBC America, but someone is taping for me. It is repeated several times. Can't wait for Stephen Fry. Thanks.

He was clean-shaven, Murph, with very short hair. I believe he read a statement of thanks from Mr. Hall's widow. If you ever need something taped from BBCA, Mary, please just let me know.

He was clean-shaven, Murph, LOL.On my screen I thought he was sporting a designer stubble. Has a good voice.

Here is Empire's review of the BAFTAS: THE SHOW REVIEWED Long before a single award was presented at this year�s BAFTAs, the ceremony could already claim to have been a huge success, simply by attracting an enormous number of A-list stars, the like of which has never been seen for a film do in London. The cunning re-working of the ceremony, rescheduling it to go out before the Oscars has been a huge success for the British Academy, bathing the whole British film industry in reflected glory. Now all that's required is for the BBC to give the show the scheduling it deserves and put it out live. There�s a certain insanity first in delaying the broadcast of the BAFTAs to create edited highlights and then in cutting into Britain�s most prestigious film awards ceremony with the evening news, giving viewers the opportunity to check the internet for the winners of the biggest awards before that part of the show had been broadcast. That aside, the show began well as the master of ceremonies for the evening � Stephen Fry � welcomed the A-list audience and the viewers at home, with trademark battiness, to the BAFTAs in London�s West End. �If London is Britain�s heart then the West End is the surgeon�s aorta.� Explaining the academy�s decision to give him a third outing as compere as �a tribute to both my availability and my plain old fashioned cheapness,� Fry launched into an opening speech of unusual eloquence and surrealism � after all, how many times do you hear the word �cartilaginous� at the Oscars? � urging stars to keep their speeches short lest the huge BAFTA masks at the back fall down and crush them into a bloody pulp. Best British Director and Film, Asif Kapadia's The Warrior The first award of the evening was the Alexander Korda Award for Best British Film which went to The Warrior. Director Asif thanked, �everyone here for being so famous and for letting us in.� Best Supporting Actor went to Christopher Walken � oddly there was no thank-you video shown, the trophy being taken away by its presenter, Angelina Jolie. Almodovar makes plea for peace Next up was Best Special Effects which went to The Two Towers followed by the Anthony Asquith Award for Achievements in Film Music which was won by a visibly-moved Philip Glass for his score for The Hours. Then we had the award for Best Film Not in the English Language; �a shoo-in,� quipped Fry, �you�d think for Scooby-Doo.� In the event, it was won by Pedro Almodovar for Talk To Her, who took the opportunity to make an eloquent plea for peace. �Cinema and war are two very different things�,� said Almodovar before going on to tell the audience that; �we have to stop this army of darkness.� The Two Towers; Costume & Visual Effects winner Michael Caine presented the Michael Balcon award for Outstanding British Contribution to Cinema to two Assistant Directors, Michael Stephenson and David Tomblin. Then to present the award for Best Cinematography, we had Gael Garcia Bernal, who prefaced his reading of the nominees by saying that millions had voted against war in Iraq, �but we still haven�t had a response,� but votes were made for the 10 films �and we have the results right here�. In the event, the award went to the late Conrad Hall for Road To Perdition. Best Supporting Actress was presented by Martin Scorsese to Catherine Zeta-Jones. �I�m very hormonal!,� she shrieked, before slipping from her usual Mid-Atlantic twang to deepest Swansea, thanking everyone she�d ever met or worked with. Best Original Screenplay was won by Pedro Almodovar for Talk To Her and The Orange Film of the Year was announced as The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers. Spanking Spike Jonze The Hours picked up Best Adapted Screenplay Meryl Streep picked up the award for Best Adapted Screenplay on behalf of writer Charlie Kaufman � reading out a speech he�d faxed over and which had been given to her in a sealed envelope. As you�d expect from Kaufman it was supremely quirky, giving Streep directions on how she should read the speech. Thrown by it, in a great Freudian moment Streep read out that she wished to �spank� rather than �thank� Spike Jonze � a mistake that was clearly relished by the audience. Best British Director went to Asif Kapadia for The Warrior. This was followed by Best Director which went to Roman Polanksi for Best Director and was collected by the film�s star Adrian Brody whose rambling thank-you speech told the audience that; �the important thing to acknowledge is that Roman has overcome a tremendous amount of loss in his life�telling this story allowed him the opportunity to tell something that was extremely personal without jeopardising his own memories.� Introduced with great unctuousness by Stephen Fry as a �classic�, Sir Ian McKellen presented the award for Best Actress to Nicole Kidman. Kissing Meryl Streep before she mounted the stairs to the stage, Kidman told the audience that �this was really a big deal for me,� thanking the British film industry for being so good to her in recent years and crediting her success to her co-stars Streep and Julianne Moore. �I divide it into three,� she said, clutching her award, �so we share it together.� Best Director and Film award went to Roman Polansli's The Pianist A luminous looking Jennifer Connolly then presented the BAFTA for Best Actor to Daniel Day Lewis. �I�d like to salute my fellow nominees�both men and women,' said Day Lewis. 'I feel a great sense of privilege at having been included among you.� The penultimate award for Best Film was presented by Tim Robbins to (wait for it)�The Pianist. Certainly not what the bookies, or perhaps the audience, were expecting � but good enough for us. And the show wrapped with the award for the Fellowship of the British Academy which was presented by Kristin Scott-Thomas and Michael Douglas to Saul Zaentz, producer of such cinematic greats as One Flew Over The Cuckoo�s Nest, The English Patient and Amadeus, who castigated the American governement for its pro-war stance and received a standing ovation for his troubles. In his brief closing speech, Fry joined in Meryl Streep, �in wanting to spank you all,� before scurrying off with all the other stars to numerous celebrity bashes being held all over London. And so to our verdict. Well, masochistic as it might seem, watching the edited highlights on the BBC can never be the same as watching the full shebang and hearing the awards announced live. We want the full version next year and are launching our campaign for it right now. If you agree, email the BBC and say so by clicking here.

Thaks, guys, for the Craig glimpse. Empire doesn't even mention him.

(Evelyn), "City of God"clip:-((....Thank you boss for saving me ten bucks.. LOL! Too much angst. I want to see the one that won Beast British film. What did Almodovar talk about? I missed his long speech. I wish Stephen Fry would do the Oscars. Me too. Although, I did find him a bit stiff in comparison to last year.

Murph, Wire Image now has a pic of DC from the after-show party last evening. Just go to wireimage.com and search on his name. Am surpised the show didn't go out live and in whole in the UK. Last year's show was better, IMO. We had Colin and Livia. And Livia's mother. And Livia's aunt. The sudsy carpet. And Russell Crowe to liven things up!:-)

Moon, I couldn't understand Almodovar. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.;-) Funniest moment of the night, IMO, was when I checked ananova's early report and they quoted Saul Z. as saying "In the words of Nelson Mandela, 'We shall overcome.'" Pfft!

"Adrian Brody whose rambling thank-you speech told the audience..." Give the guy a break, it was his first time in a foreign country accepting an award for his director.I thought it was v. sincere and heartfelt.

I saw some Grammy fashions on TV. Didn't anyone think that Nelly was dressed by the same tailor as Jack Worthing? ;-)

(Evelyn) I wish Stephen Fry would do the Oscars. I said the exact same thing last night. (Karen)*snort* Did you notice that Harvey has about three new chins? ;-) LOL, my friend leaned over and said he seems to gain weight every time she sees him. Do you think it worthwhile to slo-mo through the montage of "great films of 2002" shown at the beginning to see if TIOBE was snuck in there? Was hopeful though for a glimpse of him when the EP clips started. (Terry) �N Sync sang a medley of the band�s hits. (Rika)I cringed my way through it I had to call for a bucket. :-(****) Loved the son. And how sad to see his widow starting to bawl. (Evelyn)I wanted to see British faces there....not Matthew Mondine ;-) Agree with Empire that the BAFTAS was made for the US audience Yeah, what was the deal with him being there. No one had a clue, those who knew who he was. I enjoyed the sedateness of it actually. A nice switch. Couldn't have that every year I think though. "City of God"clip:-((....Thank you boss for saving me ten bucks.. You know I wasn't thrilled with the thought of it and avoided seeing it, but when it showed up in my class and I actually watched (most of)it, I was surprised I liked it so much. Very interesting cinematography. Think I was almost more interested in the story behind making it rather than the story itself. Can see how the appeal would be limited.

(Evelyn)I wanted to see British faces there....not Matthew Mondine ;-) (Dorine)Yeah, what was the deal with him being there. No one had a clue, those who knew who he was. LOL. There is an inside joke about him, Dorine. Whenever we expect Colin to show up at one of these events, invariably either MM or Stanley Tucci show up. It started at the MLSF premiere in NY .Not a stellar event, but Harvey , MEM, Sir David Puttnam and an array of NY socialites were there including the British diplomatic corps. Colin was off someplace in the Isle of Skye filming RV....not even his movie! Everyone knows these actors schedules are arranged when there is a premiere involved...Esp when he had *the* starring role. The NY Post had a write- up on the screening event and gave MM a lot of publicity. One would have thought he was the star. I couldn't believe my ears when I heard MM name last night. I tell ya' he's Colin's surrogate.

LOL!! That's pretty funny.

Day-Lewis Favorite to Scoop Oscar for Best Actor Mon Feb 24,10:42 AM ET And Jack was the frontrunner in the first place becauuuuse.........anyone? anyone? (Sorry Mari ;-)) LONDON (Reuters) - British actor Daniel Day-Lewis (news) was tipped Monday as the favorite to win the Oscar for best actor following his success at Sunday's Bafta awards for his role in "Gangs of New York." Leading British bookmaker Ladbrokes said Day-Lewis, who won best actor at the British film awards, has replaced former frontrunner Jack Nicholson (news) as the clear favorite for the coveted award with odds of 10/11. Nicholson was nominated for his part in "About Schmidt."

Dear Ndugu: These gals are still givin' me a hard time. I think someone's removed their reason and accountability. Well, kid, here's this month's check. Go down to Bob's Big Boy and get yourself a nice chicken salad sandwich. I'm enclosing enough to cover the tip. Yours very truly, Warren Schmidt

(Dorine) what was the deal with him being there. No one had a clue, those who knew who he was. In addition to Evelyn's story re: MM, he was announced as being in the upcoming Merchant-Ivory film "Le Divorce," which I've just seen listed as likely to be in competition at Cannes. As you'll recall, there was that rumor of Colin being in the film. They are totally interchangeable. ;-)

(Karen) MM, he was announced as being in the upcoming Merchant-Ivory film "Le Divorce," which I've just seen listed as likely to be in competition at Cannes. As you'll recall, there was that rumor of Colin being in the film. They are totally interchangeable. ;-) LOL, I must have been talking when he came out as I didn't hear his intro. I saw the trailer, doesn't look remotely interesting to me.

(Dorine) I saw the trailer, doesn't look remotely interesting to me. I enjoyed the book, though I liked the second one (Le Mariage) better. Ooo la la Antoine! ;-)

This film has SOME cast! ******************************** O'Toole, Christie Confirmed for 'Troy' Epic Tue Feb 25, 2:44 AM ET Add Movies - Reuters to My Yahoo! By Michael Fleming NEW YORK (Variety) - As he set Peter O'Toole and Julie Christie for starring roles in "Troy," director Wolfgang Petersen has vowed that a war in the Middle East will not stop his big-screen showdown between Achilles and Hector. Petersen has set a firm April 22 start date in London for the Warner Bros./Village Roadshow Pictures epic, and a May 21, 2004, release date. O'Toole aapparently wasn't kidding recently when he resisted a lifetime Oscar on the grounds that he wasn't finished turning in big performances. O'Toole will play Priam, the king of Troy, who charges his son Hector (Eric Bana) to defend the kingdom against 1,000 advancing Greek ships ready to raze the city because Priam's other son, Paris (Orlando Bloom), has stolen away with Helen. She's the wife of the Spartan king Menelaus (Brendan Gleason), who with his brother Agamemnon (Brian Cox) and Odysseus (Sean Bean), set all their forces for vengeance. They are led by the unparalleled warrior Achilles (Brad Pitt). Christie will play Thetis, the mother of Achilles who tries to help him choose between happiness with a Troy princess, Briseis (Rose Byrne), or the chance to become legend by sacking Troy. It is no coincidence that O'Toole is best known for starring in "Lawrence of Arabia" and Christie in "Doctor Zhivago," the best known epics made by David Lean. "David Lean was one of my heroes, and my ambition has been for 'Troy' to be made in the tradition of the great Lean epics," Petersen said. "To have two of his greatest actors join this balance of stars and fresh faces is unbelievable luck." Petersen has also set Saffron Burrows to play Hector's wife, Andromache. After his casting director, Lucinda Syson, held a worldwide search for Helen of Troy, Petersen said he's close to choosing a newcomer for the role. "She has to be believable as the face that launched 1,000 ships and caused the Greeks to go against Troy," said Petersen. "She has to be that beautiful." The director steadfastly denied published reports that the shoot of "Troy" is imperiled by the prospect of a war in Iraq. It is among several grand-scale period films that expect to shoot in the sands of Morocco. "We start shooting in April, and then we will move on to Malta," said Petersen. "We won't be shooting those final battle scenes until July or August. If things are going on in the world that make Morocco impossible, we have explored Mexico and Spain. Of course, we will take care of the security and safety of everybody involved, but the movie will happen and there won't be a week of delay. Everything is in place, cast included." Petersen has been sweet on "Troy" since screenwriter David Benioff first turned in his adaptation of Homer's "The Illiad." The director's participation seemed iffy when he agreed to first make "Batman vs. Superman." He said he is glad that circumstance prompted him to double back to the epic confrontation pitting Achilles vs. Hector. "When Warners decided to make 'Superman' right away, I think it was fate that worked well for me," said Petersen. "All of a sudden, I was back on 'Troy,' and Brad Pitt was suddenly available to play Achilles because he was no longer doing 'The Fountain.' This is the best kind of epic because you are working on the grandest scale, with 1,000 ships and 75,000 people waging enormous battles. But the core is emotional themes that Homer handled so well on a human scale."

(Karen)They are totally interchangeable. ;-) Talking about "interchangeable", I saw the first Greek Wedding episode last night and you are right, boss, "Thomas" does look v. much like a younger Colin. Esp. the profile. Skip the show...not as good as the film which I loved. The TV version is really the father's show.

"Thomas" does look v. much like a younger Colin. And I see it in his acting mannerisms and presence. I can just picture Colin delivering lines in the same way. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thought this was great. From Ananova: Schoolgirls in charity plea to Zeta Jones Catherine Zeta Jones' claim that �1 million is not a great deal of money is being tested by a group of schoolgirls. They have written to the actress asking for her help in raising money for Nicaraguan children. Their request came after Zeta Jones told a court that a �1 million deal for photos of her wedding to Michael Douglas was "not that much" for the celebrity couple. The actress told the High Court the contract with OK! magazine was "a lot of money maybe to a lot of people in this room, but it is not that much for us". Following her comments, 120 children from Notre Dame RC School in Plymouth have asked her to help with their fundraising efforts. Many of the letters from the 11 and 12-year-old girls include drawings and good luck wishes. The pupils have spent four years raising money for the region, and are trying to buy books and equipment for a school. Teacher, Dominique Olney, said: "We decided to write because she was quoted as saying that �1 million did not mean that much to her. "This is something the girls feel very strongly about. The letters come from the heart and reflect both the admiration for Miss Zeta Jones and the real caring they feel for the Nicaraguan friends they wish to help. "We are just asking for a little bit of help, not the whole �1 million."

I hope she does give them the �1 million. (Karen) MM, he was announced as being in the upcoming Merchant-Ivory film "Le Divorce," which I've just seen listed as likely to be in competition at Cannes. The trailer is awful, as Dorine said. ' This is the best kind of epic because you are working on the grandest scale, with 1,000 ships and 75,000 people waging enormous battles. But the core is emotional themes that Homer handled so well on a human scale." Thanks, Murph! That's my kind of movie, P'OT and JC, a blast from the past.

I watched My Big Fat Greek Life and Why did they changes the names???? Toula and Ian are now, Nia and Thomas???? But the rest of the cast keeps their names? (btw, Gia Carides is married to Anthony LaPlaglia, for those who care)

(Evelyn) Skip the show...not as good as the film which I loved. I was disappointed too. It didn't seem as natural as the movie was. Almost like they were trying too hard. Missed John Corbett. Even Vardalos seemed a bit over the top to me. Maybe next episode will be better.

I was really surprised how much Steven Eckholdt reminded me of CF..I'll watch the TV show just to see him..I bet everyone was really nervous about getting so much into such a short amt. of time and knew it would be compared to the movie..But did seem like some were trying to hard..I'll give it another go..

Janice Turner Up close and personal with the A-list at the Baftas I turned into a stalker, even timing Renee Zellweger in the loo Tuesday February 25, 2003 The Guardian Veal-white and eerily perfect, Nicole Kidman was ahead of us on the Bafta red carpet. It was one of those Leicester Square encounters between Hollywood stars and the anoraked hordes which look almost charming on TV: see how she deigns to walk among us. But from inside the velvet rope, amid an epilepsy of flashbulbs, you understand why all actresses are half crazy. For a start there was no question that Nicole, despite the February chill, could wear a coat. People want a look at the goods. So for a full 15 minutes, she pranced her horseflesh around the rope cordon while common, straining hands endangered the ivory satin of her Ungaro sheath. For all her shimmering otherworldliness, how vulnerable and needy she looked. What a price to pay in order to keep Catherine Zeta-Jones - who breezed imperially through the crowd - off the front page. Further up the carpet, Halle Berry, Mena Suvari and Angelina Jolie were each performing their private dances for the paparazzi. Living in London you are used to spying Kate and Sam lunching in Lemonia or Ewan McGregor in the park. But when Hollywood emerges from behind electric gates and iron publicist control, you cannot help but gawp. I have never been a "fan"; no pop star adorned my teenage walls. I could never see the attraction in adoring someone who didn't even know I existed. But award ceremonies make stalkers of us all. Once inside the Leicester Square cinema, watching the A-list take their seats, we became our most shallow and judgmental selves. What joy to sip a mini-Moet through a straw, munch the free Maltesers and Mini-Cheddars and play Short/Thin - ie make cruel snap assessments of the bodies of the rich and famous. So it's ooh look, Joely Richardson (scarily skinny), Daniel Day Lewis (disappointingly weedy), Salma Hayek (long body, Shetland pony legs), Ed Norton (waifish), Martin Scorsese (midget), Kidman (straight, white and long as a human light sabre), Rachel Weisz (winner of the Frida Kahlo eyebrow prize). It is a harsh mode of thinking which you would never employ on your own friends. But surely this is what famous people are for? And even legendary screenwriter William Goldman was so obsessed with actors' heights that he once sprinted across a restaurant to get a looksy at short-arse Sly Stallone emerging from a swimming pool. There are a few stars who actually look better in the flesh: Tim Robbins (big, smiley and handsome as a ranch hand), Mena Suvari (lustrous, far less flat-faced than in photos) and Natascha McElhone, who won in the pregnant-actress category, easily fended off Catherine Z-J with her barmaid decolletage and shiny face. The awards themselves were a challenge to attention spans and bladder control. Barry Norman, behind me, dozed off during the technical categories. Would it, my husband wondered, be disrespectful to slip to the loo during the obituaries? Then, once we were disgorged to await coaches taking us to Grosvenor House for dinner, a new game commenced: Spotting Famous People Doing Ordinary Things. It is the live version of those Heat magazine picture spreads entitled EastEnders Star Crosses Road. I spied Renee Zellweger in the 10-long queue for the ladies loo, lining up just like anyone else. In her dreamy Monroe murmur she sweetly accepted compliments from my fellow non-entities, all equally astonished to discover stars didn't retire to some special, gilded facility. When her turn came I found myself, without thinking, looking at my watch. I lingered by the wash basins until she emerged two minutes and 35 seconds later. Quite a long time, no? But then with all those straps on her gown, she probably had quite complicated underwear. You couldn't help but walk into fascinating vignettes: Jerry Hall and her daughter Elizabeth Jagger - ageing and nubile beauties standing together before the makeup mirror. Catherine Z-J eating: would the editor of Heat go over and take her picture? But the strangest thing about such a starry occasion is that it voids all neurosis about your own appearance. Roaming deliberately around the tables were lovely 20-year-old starlets in look-at-me frocks, unseasonally depilated, tanned and bare. And I felt not envy but compassion. Being a nobody at the Baftas is liberating: wear what you like, no one's looking anyway.

Loved the article...Thank you, Murphy...

Maybe they'll want Matthrew Broderick for Sky Masterson but doing a naive big time gambler? Sit down they're rockin' the boat. :-( Miramax Rolls Dice for 'Guys and Dolls' Remake By Michael Fleming (Variety) - After resuscitating the big-screen musical with "Chicago," Harvey Weinstein is ready for an encore. Miramax Films is negotiating a "Guys and Dolls" rights package for a remake that will be produced by Storyline Entertainment partners Craig Zadan and Neil Meron, the duo that served as executive producers of "Chicago." The tap dance to secure multiple rights components for the stage musical-turned-movie is nearly complete. Zadan and Meron held pieces of the necessary rights, and Miramax secured the final component, the original short story on which the musical was based, "The Idyll of Miss Sarah Brown (news)," from newspaperman Damon Runyan's estate. The producers had the blessing of composer Frank Loesser's widow, Jo Sullivan Loesser, and Samuel Goldwyn Jr., who held rights because his father made the original film. In all likelihood, the Goldwyn name will be on the new picture as Goldwyn will be involved in a producing capacity. Zadan and Miramax confirmed that they were hoping to strike a deal that would turn "Guys and Dolls" into their next musical collaboration, even as they look at other projects. Zadan said they aim to keep intact much of the rather large support team that made "Chicago." "The great thing about a musical like 'Chicago' is the amount of people you get to work on it, it's like three movies rolled into one. You're hiring a dance troupe, choreographer, a music department, and the elements to make a dramatic film as well." Agencies have begun to buzz about casting possibilities. "A lot of actors are coming forward who we never knew were capable of singing and dancing," Zadan said. "After 'Chicago' and 'Moulin Rouge,' they're going to their agents, saying, 'Hey, put me in a musical.' ... The musical is no longer defined as a niche area." All of this is a result of the accolades and commerce earned by "Chicago," which received 13 Oscar nominations and is about to cross the $100 million mark in the United States. The soundtrack just went platinum. Miramax and the producers feel that "Guys and Dolls" has similar potential, even though it's a comedy. It shares a gritty period setting, colorful characters and the benefit of some popular stage tunes. "Guys and Dolls" centers around Nathan Detroit, the organizer of the oldest established floating crap game in New York. He challenges fellow gambler Sky Masterson to a bet that he can't make the next girl he sees fall in love with him. The music and lyrics were penned by Loesser, and the 1955 film starred Frank Sinatra as Detroit, Marlon Brando (news) as Masterson and Jean Simmons as love interest Sarah Brown. Classic tunes include "Luck Be a Lady" and "Sit Down, You're Rockin' the Boat." Zadan and Meron previously made the TV musicals "Gypsy"; "Rodgers & Hammerstein's Cinderella"; "The Music Man"; and "Annie," which marked the directorial debut of Oscar-nominated "Chicago" director Rob Marshall.

Confirmed: JE is a mum...a baby boy.... George M. Ryan. Mum and baby are doing well.

Great article. Thanks Murph.

Remake Guys and Dolls? Say it isn't so... A "poisson" could develop a cold!

Remake Guys and Dolls? Say it isn't so... A "poisson" could develop a cold! What's next, a new West Side Story?

Oops, sorry....

LOL! That's alright. 'Poissons' often take a while to get used to the place. Me, I've gotta 'post-nasal drip.' ;-) What's next, a new West Side Story? Actually, I've been really worried about this one. :-(

He challenges fellow gambler Sky Masterson to a bet that he can't make the next girl he sees fall in love with him. How to lose Guy in 10 Days. Same thing there.

Well Sky can't take her to Havana, at this time. Where they gonna go? Redo a stage production yes but we already have that little gem of a film. I don't want to hear Adelaide's lament from anyone other than Vivian on the screen yet....well maybe from Nathan Lane.

What's next, a new West Side Story? Actually, I've been really worried about this one. :-( J. Lo was approached for this one and she declined. Said the same as you....didn't think she could improve on the original.

Wait a minute, Jen had baby boy??? When, where, who, how??? ;)

Thanks for the update on JE, Evelyn. I visited the JE website a few months ago and was surprised to find out she had married.

(Laura) When, where, who, how??? ;) I think you know the 'how' part. ;-) As I was telling Ev, that's a bad name choice around here as that's the name of our last crooked governor, who was booted out finally in November.

JE is a v. private person. Actually, have no intention of posting this on her website; which only features her professional career.It was posted on the JE List. The only reason we posted the marriage was because it was published in a UK newspaper. Watch your email Laura, I'll explain the "how";-)))

Congratulations to JE and family. This is good news. Thanks for report on Guys and Dolls Karen. But doubt it can improve on original cast.

If you liked Chicago, (and I didn't,) you can see a behind the scenes film by Miramax here: http://www.ifilm.com/ifilm/product/film_multimedia/0,4470,2451564,00.html Got this info from the really good oscarwatch site: http://www.oscarwatch.com DGA Awards tomorrow.

Time and channel on the DGA Awards?

Making of "The Pianist" tomorrow on Bravo 2 PM

Thanks for the link, Murph! I suppose that featurette will be on the 'Chicago' DVD. I enjoyed it.

Terry: DGAs not on TV, as far as I know.

These are exerpts from an article on Harvey Weinstein in the latest issue of Entertainment Weekly. (March 7) If you're Good to Harvey, Harvey's Good to You by Josy Young Just last fall, everyone was talking about how HW had finally gone too far and spent too much. Predictions abounded that the brash and burly Miramax cochairman and his slate of films would go belly-up after a decade-long winning streak. But by the time this year's Oscar nominations were announced, it was pretty clear that once again, reports of Weinstein's professional demise were greatly exaggerated... He Just Can't Do It Alone... EW: Renee Zellweger originally passed on Chicago. Meryl Poster (Miramax's copresident of production) came into your office crying and begged you to call Renee at home so she would reconsider. What did you say to Renee? HW: I said, "Renee, we've done great work together. Renee knew that when she was competing for Bridget Jones's Diary against Kate Winslet and Helena Bonham Carter, we supported casting her because we had made A Price Above Rubies with her. She knew that Miramax's backing at a crucial time landed her the movie that made her a movie star. We also knew that she wanted to be in Cold Mountain, (which Miramax will release at the end of this year), and Anthony Minghella will admit she wasn't a first choice of his. We said we could be influential in that decision. Under those circumstances she agreed to come back and meet Rob Marshall. People never understand what we do. (ED.note...I loved this part) EW: You very seldom pay the big actors their full freight. How do you constantly convince them to take pay cuts? HW: It's all based on material. It's not like we're cheap. We're not. On the upcoming Duplex, we paid Ben Stiller and Drew Barrymore their asking price plus a huge piece of the gross. It's a romantic omedy. There's no pretension that it's going to win art awards, or that we're making it for anything other than to make money. When Gwyneth Paltrow does View From the Top(another comedy, opening March 21), she gets paid $10 million. We paid Meg Ryan $15 million to do Kate & Leopold. See, there's another misconception about us. Whenever we do a studio movie, we always pay retail. EW: Why didn't you make Tom Cruise's deal on Cold Mountain? HW: We offered (Cruise)an alternative that was maybe a little bit more risky for him. It certainly had a guarantee attached to it, which was $20 million. But the back end, on Tom's deals is...first of all, he deserves it. But it just might have overpowered all of the other things that we needed to make that movie. It's an ensemble piece. Your other talent could have gotten limited. Two seconds later I offered Tom his deal for The Great Raid(Cruise passed on the war drama; the role went to Benjamin Bratt.) It's where you need to do it and where you don't need to do it. EW: Do you have a financing partner on Cold Mountainyet? HW: No. We called all of the other studios and said, "MGM pulled out at the script stage--would you like to be our partner? Everybody said no. I'm not sure that we want a partner anymore. EW: So if you go it alone, at $83 million plus marketing costs, Cold Mountain will be by far your biggest investment ever. HW: Yeah. We come from a place where we try to champion the things that nobody else would do and try to find a way of making them work... The article goes on to talk about TEP, his relationship with Disney, and other projects that were profitable and others that were not.

Sorry, the article was written by Josh Young.

(Linda) The article goes on to talk about TEP,... Thanks linda....Did you do all that typing???Or is it online. What does he say about TEP? Last I heard none of those guys had been paid.

(HW) Whenever we do a studio movie, we always pay retail. LOL! What, Harvey, don't you know somebody who can get it for you wholesale? ;-) No, that makes perfect sense and there is a rationale behind it. Actors can take paycuts on the art house films and those with award potential because that ups their asking price for all others. And, if the awards/critical acclaim come through, you can bet Harvey & Co. are going to put their money with their mouths are to back the campaign. That's what they're good at. Who wouldn't like to be in Harvey's shoes right now. The guy barely has to spend a dime as he has nearly all the important nominations in his pocket. Just a matter of deciding who *he* wants to win this year. Why spend money campaigning against himself. ;-) TEOR is definitely a film where they're going to have to pay retail. Thanks for typing up these excerpts, Linda.

(Evelyn)What does he say about TEP? Last I heard none of those guys had been paid. I was going to type the bit about TEP because I know it is your favorite, but I was in a bit of a hurry. I'll do it now. The article isn't online, at least not yet. ...And yes, Karen, I'm going to learn how to use the scanner. We just got a new one. More from the same article on HW from Entertainment Weekly, March 7. By Josh Young. EW: Let's talk about the sticky situation surrounding your first Oscar-winning Best Picture, TEP. Producer Saul Zaentz believes that not only is he owed money, but there are records he hasn't been allowed to see. What's the situation? HW: TEP was a risky movie. I sold it internationally for way too low. But I just wanted to cover myself. On the Oscar situation, yeah, I admit it, we probably spent way too much money but we wanted a Best Picture win. We spent $42 million in prints and advertising, but studios spend that on Just Married. Unless you spend $50 million on Kangaroo Jack, Jerry Bruckheimer, that film's producer, doesn't get out of bed. I don't blame Jerry. He's one of the best producers in the world. So I'm saying to Saul Zaentz, Sue us! Please sue us! We've released 492 films. We are monitored as a public company by Disney. We are audited by Disney. This is no Enron situation, and we're inviting Saul to sue us so that he keeps quiet. I'll give you another thing. Saul Zaentz will probably make--I would guess because I negotiated his deal--$50 million to $100 million on Lord of the Rings (to which Zaentz once owned film rights). One tenth of his back end takes care of any money that anybody is o ed on TEP.

(Harve)" Saul Zaentz will probably make--I would guess because I negotiated his deal--$50 million to $100 million on Lord of the Rings (to which Zaentz once owned film rights). One tenth of his back end takes care of any money that anybody is owed on TEP." "Yeah, but the actors didn't sign the contract with Saul Zaentz." Harvey covers himself and the actors don't get paid.Swell. Figures Saul would make the mint. Actually, I don't care if Saul falls off the end of the earth, anyway.

On the upcoming Duplex, we paid Ben Stiller and Drew Barrymore their asking price plus a huge piece of the gross. That's what is holding up TEOR, IMO. I bet the actors want a huge piece of the gross too. Once there is a precedent... Thanks, linda, for typing this out.

(Harvey) We are monitored as a public company by Disney. We are audited by Disney. Stop! My sides are splitting. Saul Zaentz will probably make--I would guess because I negotiated his deal--$50 million to $100 million on Lord of the Rings (to which Zaentz once owned film rights). One tenth of his back end takes care of any money that anybody is owed on TEP. Isn't that an admission of sorts, even though however much Zaentz is making on another deal is irrelevant because it should be coming out of Harvey's pocket?

Thanks for the great article Linda. I love to learn about the inner workings of things. Find it so interesting. I may be wrong but based on publicity if this is how Harvey choses what he wants to win could it be Chicago? Great publicity for that film.

Variety: Posted: Sun., Mar. 2, 2003, 1:08am PT Marshall wins DGA award 'Chicago' tapped into frontrunner position By DAVE MCNARY LOS ANGELES -- Hollywood directors tapped "Chicago" helmer Rob Marshall for outstanding directorial achievement, kicking up the prospects of the critically praised tuner. "I am overwhelmed," an elated Marshall told an audience of about 1,000 at Saturday's 55th Annual Directors Guild of America awards ceremonies at the Century Plaza Hotel. Marshall, who made his reputation on Broadway before taking on "Chicago" as his first feature, said the themes of crime and celebrity from the darkly comic musical continue to be timely and powerful for audiences. He first credited the choreographer Bob Fosse along with John Kander and Fred Ebb, who wrote the original 1975 musical. "Chicago," following in the footsteps of the success of "Moulin Rouge," has revived Hollywood interest in the musical genre. It is nearing $100 million in domestic grosses and received 13 Oscar nominations. Marshall also cited prominent musical directors Vincent Minelli, Stanley Donen, Robert Wise and Herbert Ross along with thesp-dancer Gene Kelly before offering kudos to the cast and Miramax exec Harvey Weinstein. Earlier in the evening, "Chicago" star Rene Zellweger presented Marshall with a nomination award and told him, "Bob Fosse would be proud." Marshall topped an impressive field, including Stephen Daldry for "The Hours," Peter Jackson of "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers," Roman Polanski for "The Pianist" and Martin Scorsese for "Gangs of New York." Polanski had already been awarded best director nods from BAFTA and the National Society of Film Critics, while Scorsese won the Golden Globe and was also receiving a DGA Lifetime Achievement Award. Marshall's victory makes him a front-runner for the Academy Award for Best Director since the DGA winner has matched the Oscar winner in 49 of the last 54 years. The last time voting diverged came in 2000 when the DGA opted for Ang Lee for "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences selected Stephen Gaghan for "Traffic." Polanski, who has remained outside the United States due to a sexual assault conviction, sent a videotaped greeting to the gathering that was shot by his daughter while both were in the Swiss Alps. The message concluded with Polanski skiing down a mountain slope. In accepting his lifetime achievement award from Steven Spielberg at the close of the evening, Scorsese stressed the collaborative nature of work in film and the need for filmmakers to preserve history. He also underscored the importance of foreign films, noting, "It's the very nature of movies to bring us together." In another recognition of Fosse earlier in the evening, Matthew Diamond picked up the TV musical variety award for "From Broadway: Fosse" presentation on PBS's "Great Performances: Dance in America." HBO dominated in major TV awards, with Bryan Gordon winning in comedy series for the "Special Section" episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm," John Patterson taking the drama series award for the "Whitecaps" episode of "The Sopranos" and Mick Jackson taking the TV movie award for "Live From Baghdad." Scott McKinsey won daytime serials for ABC's "One Life to Live" and Guy Ferland took the children's program award for Showtime's "Bang Bang You're Dead." Baker Smith took the commercial trophy and Tasha Oldham won for "The Smith Family" in the documentary category. Michael Moore's hit "Bowling for Columbine" was not among the nominated documentaries. Several presenters expressed concerns over the prospect of a looming war with Iraq. Jackson noted that "Live From Baghdad" was shot in Morocco, where the cast and crew were well treated by the Muslim population, and added, "I hope that our common humanity will get us through this." Carl Reiner, who served as MC for the 17th consecutive DGA, concluded the evening by asserting that the U.S. should not be going to war. "I hope that our elected officials will allow us to have another DGA dinner next year," he said.

The message concluded with Polanski skiing down a mountain slope. I love this! Michael Moore's hit "Bowling for Columbine" was not among the nominated documentaries. Why is that? I have a feeling that the Oscars will turn into one huge "anti-war declaration" program with all these actors making comments. Let's hope the UN is able to accomplish somethihg by then. Thanks, Murph!

Marshall's victory makes him a front-runner for the Academy Award It sure does. I really thought they'd split it this year--best pic to Chicago and best director to Marty--but it doesn't look that way anymore. John Patterson taking the drama series award for the "Whitecaps" episode of "The Sopranos" Isn't that the second to the last episode, where they had the boat blaring out Dean Martin doing "I like Vegas"? ;-)

I don't know about you...but I have "award fatigue" already. ~~~~~~ Movie awards have become predictable and tired, argues Matt Wolf Sunday March 2, 2003 The Observer Are you tiring of the awards season and that ever-familiar rollcall of names - Nicole, Jack, Daniel, Catherine - who are dominating this year's run-up to the seventy-fifth Academy Awards? Just imagine how the nominees themselves must feel, amid an increasingly prize-heavy schedule in which the frocks change but the people involved rarely do. Last Sunday's Baftas have clearly shown that their debatable raison d'�tre nowadays is to anticipate the Oscars, an event that, in turn, takes its cue from the Golden Globes, not to mention the panoply of end-of-year awards from various critics' organisations. And through it all emerges the same parade of people: a trio of Hours women here, a pair of Chicago hoofers there. And hardly an idiosyncratic, bravely off-the-wall, boldly counterintuitive nominee in sight. It is not my intention to slight the people involved. I remain as admiring of Nicole Kidman's schnozzle as the next person and of Ren�e Zellweger's ability to command the camera in song-and- dance terms the way the late, great Gwen Verdon, Chicago's first-ever Roxie Hart, once held a Broadway stage. But even these ladies must find themselves wishing that there were one less prize-giving pow-wow to have to schlep to. Or that at least one of the many British and American awards-giving bodies might have the imagination to cast a wider net. A taste of that eclecticism was seen in early December when the National Board of Review gave its best actor prize to Campbell Scott for the low-budget and quirky film Roger Dodger, while Edie Falco, from The Sopranos, began popping up here and there in the supporting actress category for her work in John Sayles's Sunshine State. Such diversity of names gives all the more reason to cheer Hollywood's Independent Spirit Awards, which will be handed out 22 March, the night before the Oscars. There, at least, one finds mentions of the talent behind Personal Velocity, Narc, and Lovely and Amazing, none of which registered on the Oscar-Bafta radar, as well as a best actor nod for Campbell Scott. In more mainstream ceremonies, the consensus has very nearly become crippling: how else to explain those categories (best picture and best actor, quite amazingly, among them) in which the Bafta nominees were exactly the same as the quintet of Oscar hopefuls? How was it that Bafta voters were so keen on, say, Christopher Walken in Catch Me if You Can and Meryl Streep in Adaptation when the entire casts of such top-rank British films as The Magdalene Sisters and Dirty Pretty Things went entirely unremarked? The answer lies in extensive lobbying on behalf of the major American studios for their Oscar front-runners for which a Bafta could provide a useful perch. (Thank heavens that at least the winners tilted toward the realm of the surprise, starting with the Brazilian epic City of God beating Gangs of New York to take best editing.) Oh well. Perhaps Bafta is merely mirroring the world at large. If Tony Blair is going to be Dubya's poodle, why shouldn't the Baftas be Oscar's lapdog? To be fair, the Baftas are in a bind: present them after the Oscars, as was the case for many years, and most nominees don't want to know; their season sashaying down red carpets has come to an end. And yet, bring forward the Bafta date and they become part of the Oscar furniture and you risk making a mockery of whatever allegiance the Baftas have ever had to British films, amid which the two prizes won by Asif Kapadia for The Warrior constituted the most welcome news of the night. The real irony may well come if and when Peter Mullan and Geraldine McEwan find themselves among next year's Oscar nominees following the autumn 2003 release in the States of The Magdalene Sisters. The 2004 Baftas, wanting to pay rightful homage, will have failed to grasp the nettle: their time to honour the film closer to home was now and the chance was missed. And so it is that the rollcall of recipients rarely changes - note the fact that Jack Nicholson and Meryl Streep between them can boast nearly 30 Oscar nominations. Sometimes, a new name gets added to the list, and a very sweet addition he or she is, too: no one was more surprised than Judi Dench herself at being nominated four out of the past five years (three times runner-up, one win, for Shakespeare in Love). That fact, in turn, suggests just how greatly disliked the recent Oliver Parker film of The Importance of Being Earnest must have been that Dench wasn't Oscar-nominated again for her Lady Bracknell. Or for a Bafta either, in sharp contrast to that era when all Dench had to do to figure in the Bafta race was make a film - she had four successive supporting actress nominations between 1986 and 1989 for barely remembered movies like 84 Charing Cross Road. Things have perked up of late at the Evening Standard Theatre Awards ever since that period - again during the 1980s - when few women outside the Judi-Maggie-Vanessa axis ever won the best actress prize. And in music, although Coldplay figured at both this year's Grammys and Brits, at least the evenings weren't carbon copies of each other: one featured a Simon and Garfunkel reunion, the other Justin Timberlake fondling Kylie Minogue. As we hurtle toward the Oscar home stretch, spare a thought for such non-nominees as Secretary's Maggie Gyllenhaal, Spider's Miranda Richardson, or, from the ubiquitous The Hours, Stephen Dillane, whose performance as Leonard Woolf is the rock, as Kidman has pointed out, on which her galvanic and gloomy Virginia Woolf is founded. And anyone anticipating a different cast of characters come the next Bafta-Oscar onslaught should think again. Already being touted as the film to beat is Anthony Minghella's Cold Mountain and its line-up headed by, you guessed it, Nicole Kidman and Ren�e Zellweger. In which case, here we go again. � Matt Wolf is London theatre critic for Variety and author of Sam Mendes at the Donmar: Stepping Into Freedom , Nick Hern Books ~~~~~~~~` TIOBE "greatly disliked"....Ouch! (He doesn't read Drool.) I didn't bold on purpose ,nor would I give it the dignity of putting it on 165.

Sorry...here's the source: http://www.observer.co.uk/review/story/0,6903,905454,00.html

But even these ladies must find themselves wishing that there were one less prize-giving pow-wow to have to schlep to. Or that at least one of the many British and American awards-giving bodies might have the imagination to cast a wider net. What is he smoking? That's what they live for, recognition. the two prizes won by Asif Kapadia for The Warrior constituted the most welcome news of the night. I agree! I want to see this. Thanks, Evelyn!

the two prizes won by Asif Kapadia for The Warrior constituted the most welcome news of the night. Actually, that award was intended as slap to the Academy since the film was rejected as the UK's submission for Best Foreign Language film since it whatever language it is in (Hindi??) is not the submitting country's native language. BTW, the article is ridiculous. Bafta wanted its awards to be deemed "relevant" and chose to play on the AA's playing field. Unfortunately, I still don't believe the Bafta voters mirror Academy voters' minds. Not even possible.

Thanks Linda for the article on HW. Guess he's having the last laugh now--New Yorker hatchet job be damned....

Oh I don't think it's so ridiculous....well at least , I don't agree with all that he says. i.e. : I thought Angela Bassett was better than Edie Falco in Sunshine State. I have no problem with awards going to Hollywood stars and films if they are deserving...but why the preponderance of Hollywood stars as presenters... trot out the Brit talent they have . Besides it seems more genuine & hospitable to receive an award from a national than a foreigner.

Marshall's victory makes him a front-runner for the Academy Award (Karen) It sure does. I really thought they'd split it this year--best pic to Chicago and best director to Marty--but it doesn't look that way anymore That was my guess, too, but I'm sooooo glad to see Rob Marshall get this. Guess they figured Marty's Lifetime award is enough for one year. You can tell in today's NY Times what basket Harvey is putting his $$ eggs in for the Oscar....2 full page, color ad, in the middle fold of the Arts section for Chicago and 1 full page b/w for Gangs and The Hours (with Paramount). Finally managed to see The Pianist last week.....brilliant! Talk about angst overload. And, if anyone is going to be in the NYC area in the next week or 2, check out the Donmar's 12th Night or *especially* Uncle Vanya at BAM. It's ending soon, but very well worth the effort to get there. Was *very*(!) struck by Mark Strong in Uncle Vanya. Didn't notice so much in 12th Night. Barely in it. Forgotten the connection to FP til I read the Playbill when I saw 12th Night first, but boy is he a stage presence in Vanya. Have to admit, was saying CF who for those 3 hours (and did time blow by). He looks totally different but was captivating with his comanding presence, intense gaze, and booming voice. After looking on some pics on the net, decided he's much more appealing with a beard, too. And I'm not usually big on men with such short (or lack of) hair. *Wonderful* cast all around.

Here comes another rumor.... From Dark Horizons: "Pal Joey: Catherine Zeta Jones, Richard Gere and Renee Zellweger are tipped to re-unite in another musical. This one's a remake of Sinatra classic "Pal Joey".

geez, you guys get to see some great movies and my boyfriend drags me to Daredevil to drool over Jennifer Garner... *sigh*

From a good film site: Guy at the Movies (Guy Flately, who used to be a NY Times film critic): (Lola, take note) http://www.moviecrazed.com/guymovies.html TIME FOR A REALITY CHECK AT UNIVERSAL? If you have tears to shed for major movie executives, prepare to shed them now for the big boys at Universal Pictures. It�s obvious they expected "The Life of David Gale" to show more signs of life than it did. The heavy-sweating melodrama about Texecutions got mowed down by the critics and is currently experiencing death rattles at the box office. How could this happen to a Kevin Spacey vehicle all the focus groups said would go through the roof? According to a report in weekly Variety headlined "Assassination of �David Gale�," one studio insider, stupefied by the critical panning, whined, "I think the press have cut the box office in half." He went on to speculate that critics may have felt that Alan Parker, the British director who got America�s civil rights movement all wrong in "Mississippi Burning," is hardly the person to be preaching to us about the Texan passion for capital punishment. "Given the personal tone of some reviews," said the anonymous insider, "do they just have something against Parker?" On the other hand, Universal has reason to expect a far kinder critical response to another of its new movies. In the same issue of Variety, Lisa Nesselson gives a glowing review to "The Final Curtain," which "features a bang-up perf by Peter O�Toole as a monstrous gameshow host. Fast-paced look at the vicious rivalry between two successful U.K. TV presenters is craftily structured and merciless in its black humor." So can we expect "The Final Curtain" to surpass the pitiful $7,000,000 opening-weekend gross of "The Life of David Gale"? No way. Universal is sending the British import directly to Blockbuster. Look for it on the shelves in May. By the way, does Universal have something against Peter O�Toole?

"..the British director who got America?s civil rights movement all wrong in "Mississippi Burning," is hardly the person to be preaching to us about the Texan passion for capital punishment. " You want me to pay ten bucks to hear a "sermon" about capital punishment? Hate movies that "preach" to me. However in this case there is a lot more wrong with this film and not just the topic. Always think of Samuel Goldwyn of MGM who once said: "If I wanted to send a message, I'd go to Western Union".

Thanks for all the great information ladies. So glad Rob Marshall won best director, hoped he would. I would say Harvey's eggs are in the basket for Chicago. Constant publicity.

(Evelyn)However in this case there is a lot more wrong with this film and not just the topic. Amen. I saw this last weekend. I'm a sucker for anything labeled a "thriller". It left me cold. I never once twisted in my seat...even at the obvious part where we should all be getting nervous and apprehensive. Nothing in this film made me care about anything. As far as making a statement on the death penalty?? I don't think they succeeded.

Here's the Variety review of The Final Curtain (Peter O is still going strong! And it has a couple of one degrees of CF in it) (U.K.) A UIP (in U.K.)/Universal (in U.S.) release of a DNA Films presentation, in association with UIP, of a Young Crossbow production. (International sales: Youngfilms, U.K.) Produced by Duncan Kenworthy, Andrew Macdonald, Christopher Young. Directed by Patrick Harkins. Screenplay, John Hodge. J.J. Curtis - Peter O'Toole Jonathan Stitch - Adrian Lester Dave Turner - Aidan Gillen Karen - Julia Sawalha -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By LISA NESSELSON -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A sardonic Greek tragedy about celebrity and ambition, which would have had the ancient Greeks applauding between laughs, "The Final Curtain" features a bang-up perf by Peter O'Toole as a monstrous gameshow host. Fast-paced look at the vicious rivalry between two successful U.K. TV presenters is craftily structured and merciless in its black humor. Satisfying romp, properly marketed, should attract attention, although Universal has decided to bypass theatrical release Stateside and send the picture straight to video in May. Saga of showbiz skullduggery is told in flashback by Jonathan Stitch (Adrian Lester), a serious novelist who, against his better judgment, agrees to write the biography of J.J. Curtis (O'Toole). Cleverly assembled archival footage establishes both backstory and irreverent tone. We learn J.J., had no luck as an entertainer until a fortuitous accident in 1973 jumpstarted his career. J.J. later invented "The Big Prize," a TV quizshow awash in wholesome family values that made its host a household name. Negotiations are under way for what is to be the crowning achievement of J.J.'s life -- the sale of his long-running show's concept to "the Americans." But J.J.'s chief on-air rival, Dave Turner (Aidan Gillen) -- "a combination of Sid Vicious and Pee-wee Herman," per Stitch's narration, also hopes to make a deal with U.S. broadcasters. Turner's show, "Current Account," rewards contestants for shooting 5,000 volts of electricity through a loved one who's strapped into an electric chair before an enthusiastic audience. Although he's jaunty and warm on the tube, J.J. is abusive and opportunistic off-screen. Dave is even more objectionable in real life, as we learn from his erstwhile personal assistant, Karen (Julia Sawalha). It's not just that the two rivals will stop at nothing; it's the ingenuity with which they wage their private war that keeps upping the ante. Script by John Hodge -- his first beyond movies with helmer Danny Boyle -- gleefully sends up every variety of craven self-interest. Along the way, it mocks the tactics required to stay on top in a fickle field where public opinion can spin on a dime -- or a fabricated scandal. Lester is well cast as the honorable practitioner of high art sucked into the sphere of lowest common denominators. Gillen looks and moves like a spoiled brat who mistakenly equates celebrity with mass affection. But it's O'Toole who shines as the wily and resilient operator whose rottenness is comprised of almost too many layers for Stitch to investigate. Debuting helmer Patrick Harkins tells the intricate tale with clear lively strokes, breezily sustaining a mood of ambient malice. It's getting increasingly difficult to satirize TV -- and this premise may well seem tame a few years hence -- but for now, it delivers both as entertainment and as social commentary. With: Ralph Brown, Henry Goodman, Patrick Malahide, Ian McNeice, Charles Simon. Camera (color), Oliver Curtis; editors, Justine Wright, Scott Thomas; music, Mozart, Strauss, J.S. Bach, Verdi, Chopin; production designer, Kave Quinn; art director, Tracey Gallacher; set decorator, Rebecca Gilles; costume designer, Susannah Buxton; sound (Dolby), Tim Fraser, Peter Gleaves; assistant director, Sean Guest; casting, Nina Gold. Reviewed at Gothenburg Film Festival, Sweden, Jan. 30, 2003. MPAA rating: R. Running time: 84 MIN.

Satisfying romp, properly marketed, should attract attention, although Universal has decided to bypass theatrical release Stateside and send the picture straight to video in May It's a conspiracy. No one wants him to get the "real" Oscar now. He might prove his point when he was declining the "fake" one that he still has some good performances left in him and wasn't ready to go to pasture. ;-)

Not much here potentially for an actor considered to be in Miramax's "stable" of talent: Miramax puts Euro titles on prod'n fast track By Stuart Kemp LONDON -- Miramax Films is gearing up its development and production ambitions across Europe, fueled by the return to London from New York of executive vp production and development Colin Vaines. Working in tandem with New York-based executive vp production and development Julie Goldstein, Vaines is fast-tracking several European-set titles on Miramax's burgeoning development slate, he said Monday. According to Vaines, Miramax is ramping up its commitment to "making family movies" on its next production slate. Headlining such projects is an adaptation of Jonathan Stroud's as-yet-unpublished kids adventure "The Amulet of Samarkand." The first in Stroud's "Bartimaeus Trilogy," the book is billed by Vaines as a "classic kids' adrenaline story" and details the story of a young magician who conjures up a disgruntled genie. Stroud is writing an initial draft script for Miramax from his story, which is set against the backdrop of London in a parallel universe ruled by magicians. Former children's book editor Stroud struck a $3 million deal with Miramax Books for U.S. publishing and film rights based on a partial manuscript and outline for his proposed trilogy last year. His adaptation joins another Miramax-published novel, "Artemis Fowl," on the development/production fast track at Miramax. Vaines is working closely on the big-screen adaptation of "Fowl," which Larry Guterman will direct. The screenplay is being penned by Chris Viscardi and Will McRobb ("The Cricket in Times Square"), based on Irish author Eoin Colfer's book of the same name. The mini-major is developing the film Stateside under the supervision of Goldstein, and the project will be produced by Tribeca Films partners Jane Rosenthal and Robert De Niro. "Fowl" follows the adventures of a crafty 12-year-old boy immersed in a world of fairies, leprechauns and gnomes. Miramax is also stepping up development on Philip Pullman's novel "The Firework-Maker's Daughter," having optioned the script development rights. Pullman's book details a young girl's quest through exotic lands to become a maker of fireworks like her father. "It is in active development, but we are currently deciding on who will adapt it at the moment," said Vaines. Other titles on the fast track through the company's European operations include "Newton's Law," from a script by Richard Kurti and Bev Doyle. The story centers on British scientist Isaac Newton, who, according to the history books, worked as a warden at the Royal Mint. The script tells the story of Newton breaking a counterfeit ring during his stint there. Vaines and Goldstein are also fast-tracking an adaptation of Allison Pearson's book "I Don't Know How She Does It." Miramax has brought in screenwriter Kevin Wade ("Maid in Manhattan") to draft a screenplay from Pearson's best-selling novel about a professional woman who juggles a career, marriage and children against the hectic world of big business. The mini-major is also developing "Four Knights," from a script by Paul Webb. Vaines described the project as " 'A Man for All Seasons' meets 'Trainspotting.' " "Although it is a historical-set drama, it has a really contemporary voice," Vaines said. "Four Knights" chronicles four knights' attempt to kill Archbishop of Canterbury Thomas Beckett in 12th-century England.

Another Kudo for Miss Darcy..... The Soul Keeper (Prendimi L'Anima)-- Lee Marshall in Rome 05 March 2003 Dir: Roberto Faenza. Italy-France-UK. 2003. 97mins. Italian director Roberto Faenza's first English-language film spins a historical romance out of a footnote in the history of psychoanalysis. By turns involving and frustrating, it demonstrates the danger of a many-handed script which was only translated into English at a fairly late stage. But while the dialogue smacks a little too much of a language-teaching video; strong performances from the two leads, Emilia Fox (The Pianist) as Sabina Spielerein and Iain Glen as her psychoanalyst, Carl Jung, make up for the occasional weak line. Italian audiences - apparently unfazed by the dialogue in the dubbed version - have responded well to The Soul Keeper, which on its opening weekend in early January posted the best screen average after The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers. Five weeks later it is still playing on 112 screens and has taken $3.2m. Fox will be the strongest selling-point for the film in its bid for distribution in English-language territories (more so after the burgeoning awards success of The Pianist), where it is unlikely to repeat its strong Italian showing. In 1977 Italian historian Aldo Carotentuto came upon a bundle of letters and diaries that revealed the true nature of the relationship between Carl Jung - the influential but wayward disciple of Sigmund Freud -and his first patient, a young Russian-Jewish girl called Sabina Spielerein. The film is built on the speculation that, once cured, Spielerein may have become Jung's mistress; indeed, the central image on Italian distributor Medusa�s poster artwork is a scene of the two engaged in a steamy tussle on a Persian rug. Having qualified as a psychoanalyst herself, Spielerein returns to native Russia a few years after the Revolution, where she set up a progressive nursery school whose pupils included one of Stalin's sons. The correspondence between Spielerein and Jung and between Jung and his master, Freud, underpins a story that takes the audience from the asylum where Jung first attempted to impose his modern methods (cue traditional 'enemy' doctors with medieval straps and chains) to urban Vienna circa 1905 (cue coffee houses and Klimt exhibitions), to a Moscow still in love with Lenin's vision of a brave new world (cue sepia newsreel-style footage). Over didactic and over obvious (both of the dreams recounted in the film involve that old Freudian chestnut, the charging stallion), the script is lifted by Emilia Fox's performance as Sabina. Some audiences may find her scenes of madness somewhat over-melodramatic, but Fox is capable of reining herself in too, and gives Audrey Tautou a run for a money as an actress who can signal emotion with the eyes alone. Less convincing, however, is the film's contemporary frame, involving a Scottish professor and a mysterious Frenchwoman who are researching the life of Jung's first patient. Prod co: Jean Vigo Italia Co-prods: Les Films du Centaure, Cowboy Films It dist: Medusa Int'l sales: Adriana Chiesa Enterprises Prod: Elda Ferri Scr: Faenza, in collaboration with Gianni Arduini, Alessandro Defilippi, Giampiero Rigosi, Hugh Fleetwood, Ferri Cinematography: Maurizio Calvesi Prod des: Giantito Burchiellaro, Vladimir Trapznikov Ed: Massimo Fiocchi Music: Andrea Guerra Main cast: Iain Glen, Emilia Fox, Craig Ferguson, Caroline Ducey, Jane Alexander, Daria Galluccio

Thanks for posting the review, Murph. I'll look for this one if/when it gets here. Speaking of Audrey Tautou, I just saw "He Loves Me, He Loves Me Not." Definitely worthwhile to see but you shouldn't read too much about it as most reviews give away too much of the story. I can't even tell you why you should see it because then you'd know too much. ;-)

Thanks for the interesting articles ladies.

Karen, off topic (which is weird as this is odds and ends;)), but did you read Byatt's The Biographer's Tale?

I just found this and it looks interesting (I'll also post the pictures at the bottom). Doogie Howser goes raunchy Neil Patrick Harris remakes his image from M.D. to Emcee Neil Patrick Harris has established a career for himself in musical theater since leaving his role as "Doogie Howser, M.D." NEW YORK (AP) -- Theatergoers may not be quick to recognize the new master of ceremonies in Broadway's "Cabaret." Chances are that many have seen him in something before, but never quite like this. Neil Patrick Harris -- TV's "Doogie Howser, M.D." -- began headlining the Roundabout Theatre Company's raunchy revival of the musical in January, joining a cast that has been heavy on mainstream name recognition in the long-running show that opened in 1998. As the painted, lascivious Emcee who lures audiences into director Sam Mendes' dark vision, the only thing familiar about the former teenage star is his name. Harris shed some weight for the role, along with the squeaky-clean image that accompanied his early stardom. Taking a break in his dressing room on a recent afternoon, Harris' signature wholesomeness was apparent. Only traces of the goth stage persona were visible -- a long flap of jet black hair pushed away from his eyes and "weeks-old" layers of chipped nail polish, also black. "Cabaret" is the latest in a recent flurry of theater work for Harris, who jumped at the opportunity to play the strung-out host of the Kit Kat Klub. "Living in Berlin in the late '20s, at the end of the Weimar Cabaret period, there was great fun and frivolity," he says. "And suddenly it started to turn very dark and caustic and drugs were abundant. Cocaine addiction was running rampant. There was lots of heroin and opium. So you have this very twisted sense of reality." 'It's not so bad' The sight of Harris as The Emcee in "Cabaret" tends to shock audiences. The distortion of reality is somehow tweaked by the procession of familiar faces that has starred in the production, which celebrated its 2,000th performance this month. The cast has featured, at various times, such actors as Molly Ringwald, Brooke Shields, Tom Bosley and Hal Linden. Michael C. Hall and John Stamos had stints as The Emcee, a role originated by Alan Cumming, who also won a Tony. A lot about this role is new, including some physical challenges, like the accent. "The trick is being as authentic as you can, but still be American enough so that people can understand you," says Harris, who worked with a few different dialect coaches. Also, by his standards, there is a lot of dancing, at times in drag and high heels. "I find you're on the balls of your feet, so it's not so bad." Peter Wolf, the production's stage manager, was impressed with how quickly Harris picked up the dance numbers and other challenges of the role. "He came very prepared and ready to work," says Wolf. "We were ahead of schedule all the time. He just kept pushing us to move on." Harris also pushed himself to slim down. Actors playing The Emcee learn quickly that being in shape is a necessity, according to Wolf. "They realize that their stamina has to be built up. They are moving constantly from the top of the show to the end. They're on stage probably 85 percent of the time." Of the several Emcees Wolf has seen pass through the production, he noted that Harris' approach was to accent The Emcee's broad change in tone, waiting until later scenes to fully reveal the character's deeply cynical and tragic sides. This nightly metamorphosis is something Harris relishes about the part. "The whole idea of The Emcee's role is that he sort of defines transformation. He starts off very happy and charming as the 'Willkommen' man," Harris says, referring to the show's famous opening number. "And then he's an aristocrat flaunting his money, or a lovesick man falling in love for the first time. Sometimes he's a woman in the kick line. It's not until the final transformation at the end that you realize who he truly is." Up next: Peter Parker's voice For Harris, who turns 30 in June, range is part of the fun of acting. His recent assignments have spanned "the token white guy" in the movie "Undercover Brother" to the cerebral love interest of Anne Heche's Catherine in the Pulitzer Prize-winning play "Proof." We were ahead of schedule all the time. He just kept pushing us to move on. -- Stage manager Peter Wolf on Neil Patrick Harris In his latest television project, scheduled to premiere in April, his identity may be even more thickly masked than it is by The Emcee's caked-on makeup. He plays the voice of Peter Parker in MTV's animated series "Spiderman." "It's all computer-generated 3D animation. Very cool stuff," says Harris, who has done much voice work. Like many actors, he splits his time between New York and Los Angeles. But theater, he says, is more than just a way of filling time in the off-season. And musical theater is something he especially intends to keep pursuing -- a goal made easier by Stephen Sondheim, who seems to appreciate Harris' work. Two years ago, after appearing in the Los Angeles production of "Rent," Harris was hired for a local concert production of "Sweeney Todd," the Sondheim musical. Sondheim saw Harris' performance and recommended that he do it for the Lincoln Center production. The relationship, and a string of jobs, grew from there. "He asked me to do the 'Evening Primrose' recording, Which was great," Harris says, referring to the album of songs from the 1966 musical written for television. "That was really exciting." The connection led to a workshop for a revival of Sondheim's 1990 musical, "Assassins." However, the show's opening was postponed shortly after September 11. The timing wasn't right for a musical about people who tried to kill U.S. presidents. "Assassins" is tentatively scheduled to open in February 2004, with Harris playing Lee Harvey Oswald. But that could change and so could Harris' plans. With the TV pilot season soon in full swing, he can't say if his near future will be in front of a camera or a live audience. He acknowledges his commitments in New York may get in the way of film or television opportunities. But for now, Harris is happy playing The Emcee eight times a week. "I would have never been able to forgive myself if I didn't take this role. "And that's the great thing about pilot season -- it will always be there next year." as the emcee

well to see the pic http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/TV/03/04/wkd.neil.patrick.harris.ap/index.html

The film is built on the speculation that, once cured, Spielerein may have become Jung's mistress; It known that Jung tended to have affairs with his deciples too and that included Marie Louise Von Franz. Any aspect of Jung's life would make an interesting film, IMO. Thanks, Murph.

Attn: Conspiracy Theorists! From the LA Times: Judge 'The Pianist,' not Roman Polanski The battle over the director's nomination speaks volumes about why the Oscars have devolved into a seamy mystery. By PATRICK GOLDSTEIN March 4 2003 Ah, the sweet smell of Oscar season in full bloom! Samantha Geimer, the woman who was sexually violated by "The Pianist" director Roman Polanski when she was a 13-year-old Valley Girl way, way back in 1977, recently popped up on ABC's "Good Morning America" and CNN's "Larry King Live," forgiving the director for his sins. She also penned an op-ed piece in this newspaper, gracefully saying, "No one needs to worry about me.... Mr. Polanski and his film should be honored according to the quality of the work. I think that the academy members should vote for the movies they feel deserve it. Not for people they feel are popular." That was the last we saw of anything resembling goodwill. The reaction in hard-boiled Hollywood speaks volumes about why the Oscars have devolved from a classy night at the opera into a seamy murder mystery. The question on everyone's lips: Who was behind Geimer's TV appearances? Was the leading suspect "Pianist" distributor Focus Films, betting that Geimer's forgiveness would cast Polanski in a more sympathetic light? Or was it Miramax's Harvey Weinstein, the dark prince of past Oscar campaigns, who somehow engineered the "Good Morning America" interview (after all, conspiracy theorists say, aren't ABC and Miramax both owned by Disney?) figuring the rehashing of Polanski's sordid escapade would nudge voters toward Miramax candidates "Chicago" and "Gangs of New York"? Focus Films Co-President James Schamus says his company "unequivocally had no knowledge of her appearances" while Miramax spokeswoman Amanda Lundberg says her company had nothing to do "in any way" with any Geimer appearances. There seems to be no evidence driving the rumors except the cynical view that this is a contest no different from any hardball political campaign. Now in her late 30s, Geimer comes off as a wholesome-looking suburban soccer mom. Asked why she hasn't seen "The Pianist," she explained: "I don't go for dramas. I'm more of an action-adventure or comedy [moviegoer]." She kept her poise, even when King walked her through her encounter with Polanski like a homicide detective, leeringly asking, "It was just straight sex -- nothing else? Did he ask you to do other things?" The most poignant moment came when Geimer tried to explain why her mother had allowed a 13-year-old girl to go alone for a photo session with the rakish film director. "We trusted him," she said. "We had no reason not to. He was a celebrity." That's not to say that Geimer isn't media savvy. When King speculated that Polanski probably wouldn't even recognize her today, Geimer glanced around the TV studio and wryly replied, "He probably would now." With "The Pianist" having emerged as a formidable best picture contender, especially after winning both film and director statuettes at the recent British and French awards ceremonies, Polanski's tangled life story has taken center stage again. But what has also taken center stage is an age-old debate over whether an artist's accomplishments should be judged against his misdeeds, a debate that has divided Hollywood many times over its history. Always a fugitive "The Pianist," which features Adrien Brody as noted Polish pianist Wladyslaw Szpilman, chronicles the lethal Nazi occupation of the Warsaw Jewish ghetto, something Polanski experienced first-hand as a child. In many ways, he has always been a fugitive. During the war he escaped through a gap in the wall of the Krakow ghetto not long before his pregnant mother was sent to the gas chambers. In 1969, after Polanski's pregnant wife, Sharon Tate, was murdered by the Charles Manson family, nasty insinuations by the media sent him fleeing back to Europe. Even bastions of propriety like Time and Newsweek took relish in printing the grisly details of his wife's bloody demise, gossiping about her "shaky" marriage and describing the murders' similarity to nightmarish scenes in Polanski movies "Repulsion" and "Rosemary's Baby." After being viewed more with suspicion than sympathy in that dark hour, when Polanski got word that the judge in the Geimer case planned to throw the book at him, he opted for fugitive status again. For anyone who's seen 1974's "Chinatown," Polanski and Robert Towne's masterful portrait of corruption in pre-war Los Angeles, revolving around an oily paterfamilias who rapes his daughter and lusts after his granddaughter, the back-room events surrounding the 1977 sex scandal have an eerie resonance. For that matter, if Polanski's case had gone to trial, the resulting media circus might've had many of the outlandish shenanigans that dominate "Chicago." According to Geimer's lawyer, Lawrence Silver, all parties agreed to a plea bargain allowing Polanski, who spent 42 days in jail undergoing psychological evaluation, to plead guilty to one count of having sex with a minor. "What the judge did was outrageous," Silver recently explained. "He approved the plea but [then] he called us into his chambers and said he was going to sentence Polanski, rather than for time served, to 50 years." When I had lunch with the late producer Howard W. Koch several years ago, he told of being in the shower room at the Hillcrest Country Club when he overheard the judge boast that he was going to put Polanski away for the rest of his life. Koch phoned Polanski to warn him and, before anyone knew it, the director had fled to Paris, abandoning his Mercedes at LAX. The Superior Court judge, Laurence J. Rittenband, staunchly denied any bias against the director but ultimately removed himself from the case. As for Polanski, once a fugitive, always a fugitive. Ever since he fled, he has lived in exile and semi-infamy, his career in decline until being resurrected by "The Pianist" and its moving portrait of a man saved by his art. 'Profligate dwarf' Can Polanski be resurrected by his art? I realized I'd been watching Geimer's interviews -- and rereading her piece in The Times -- because I was wrestling with a nagging moral dilemma that I suspect has troubled many academy voters as well: How do we weigh someone's accomplishments against his personal misdeeds? A tormented man who said in his autobiography, "I am widely regarded, I know, as an evil, profligate dwarf," Polanski has been repeatedly cursed by people's inability to distinguish between his art and his life. With "The Pianist" up for a best picture, can we judge the movie, not the man? It's a question the academy has repeatedly confronted. When it comes to a disquieting penchant for underage women, no one can top Charlie Chaplin. His first two wives were 16 when they married him; he was 44 when he married the 19-year-old Paulette Godard, 54 when he married the 18-year-old Oona O'Neill. Before his final marriage, he was accused of violating the Mann Act after fathering a child with the young actress Joan Barry. After being labeled a Communist and threatened with deportation, he left the country in 1952, not to return until 1972, when the academy gave him an honorary Oscar. Elia Kazan was given an honorary Oscar in 1999, despite having informed on his friends during a 1952 congressional hearing at the height of the same McCarthy-era Red Scare that sent Chaplin packing. Want a more timely moral quandary? The No. 1 pop album in the country this week is R. Kelly's "Chocolate Factory." Should you buy a copy for your kid, even though the R&B crooner is awaiting trial on child pornography charges in two states after allegedly appearing in a home video that shows him in a sexual liaison with a young girl? For Polanski's admirers, it's the movie that matters. Warren Beatty, a longtime Polanski friend, calls "The Pianist" "an absolute masterwork. Neither a personal mistake nor the personal misfortunes of its creator are relevant to that." In recent years, the Oscars have too often become a personality parade, influenced by a tidal wave of glossy advertisements and personal campaign appearances. But if you really take the Academy Awards seriously, you'd have to argue they matter too much to be treated as a popularity contest. Weinstein and Scott Rudin often behave like schoolyard bullies, but they make great movies, and if you believe "Chicago" or "The Hours" is the year's best film, give those pictures your vote. Likewise for best supporting actress candidate Catherine Zeta-Jones. So what if she sold her wedding photos to a cheesy British fanzine and is now suing another rag for printing them first? Being tacky has nothing to do with being talented. Artists are often unhappy, dissolute, disreputable people -- read a biography of Picasso, Ernest Hemingway or Jackson Pollock and see if you'd have wanted them living next door. The truth is that we always forgive them their transgressions because, in the end, the inspiration we find in their art outweighs our disapproval of their brutish behavior. No one loathed Kazan more than blacklisted screenwriter Abraham Polonsky, but as he once told me, "I try not to confuse my moral hatreds with my aesthetic dislikes." As time passes, the personal transgressions fade into the background; the artist's brilliance is what we cherish and remember. Perhaps it's too soon for Polanski to receive absolution. But after seeing "The Pianist," I think it's time to put aside our qualms about his behavior and cast our vote for the best movie, even if it wasn't made by the best man. http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/goldstein/cl-et-gold4mar04.story

(Laura) Karen, off topic (which is weird as this is odds and ends;)), but did you read Byatt's The Biographer's Tale? Not only is this off topic, but it is also what email is for. :)

"...an age-old debate over whether an artist's accomplishments should be judged against his misdeeds, a debate that has divided Hollywood many times over its history.... ...As time passes, the personal transgressions fade into the background; the artist's brilliance is what we cherish and remember. " Oh yeah...well it certainly cooked Russell Crowe last year for A Beautiful Mind. Scandalous.

Karen: Thanks for the LA Times article. Gives us many things to ponder.

I'm glad Patrick Goldstein is is rooting for The Pianist. He is a very well known and respected critic in LA. My DH saw The Soul Keeper (Prendimi L'Anima), in Milan today. He says it's terrible. But my DH is among other things, a Jung scholar, so he was probably looking out for more than the average viewer would.

(Polanski's lawyer) "What the judge did was outrageous," Silver recently explained. Um, no, actually thinking that he'd get away with time served--42 days--for rape is what's outrageous! On what planet would that be a fair sentence for rape? In an ideal world, people should be judged on their accomplishments, of course. But AA voters are human beings, and as such do tend to vote for people they like--or at least those they don't find loathsome. And I think Goldstein is reaching when he brings up CZJ in the same context--ok, maybe she's tacky and money-grubbing, maybe she's not. But she hasn't hurt anyone. *That* is the difference. On the other hand, some celebs seem to be Teflon-coated, such as the nominee who is allegedly carrying on with a married actor, you know, the one whose poor wife is ill.:-(

(Mari), the nominee who is allegedly carrying on with a married actor, you know, the one whose poor wife is ill.:-( I am so out of it! Who is that? But AA voters are human beings, and as such do tend to vote for people they like-- Here's..............................Jack! ;-)

Ah, Moon, you know me, I don't like to gossip.;-) Let's just say it got awfully warm on that cold mountain.;-) Why the heck couldn't CF have nabbed a role in this? Will be a huge blockbuster, lots of publicity: Clive Owen Confirmed as King Arthur Thursday, March 6, 2003 8:17 CST Disney has crowned Clive Owen as King Arthur and is in talks with fellow British actor Stephen Dillane to take on the role of Merlin in the studio's Jerry Bruckheimer-produced take on the medieval legend. The Hollywood Reporter says the project, being eyed for a spring start with Training Day helmer Antoine Fuqua set to direct, is described as a demystified take on the tale of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table and promises a more realistic portrayal of Arthur than has ever been presented onscreen. The film will focus on the history and politics of the period during which Arthur ruled -- when the Roman empire collapsed and skirmishes over power broke out in outlying countries -- as opposed to the mystical elements of the tale on which past Arthur films have focused.

(Polanski's lawyer) "What the judge did was outrageous," Silver recently explained. (Mari) Um, no, actually thinking that he'd get away with time served--42 days--for rape is what's outrageous! On what planet would that be a fair sentence for rape? Don't disagree one jot with the sentiment, but I believe the lawyer's outrage had to do with the fact that the judge had approved the plea and was now going to toss it out. He should never have agreed to such a pathetic agreement to begin with is what is outrageous. (Actually, I didn't think the judge had a say, though they can set aside a verdict.) But Polanski has to bear the ramifications of his actions. If his artistic work is tainted, then that's how it will be. I merely thought the article interesting because of the accusations that Miramax was again conducting a smear campaign by ensuring that Polanski's past was in the public's consciousness. (Mari) such as the nominee who is allegedly carrying on with a married actor, you know, the one whose poor wife is ill.:-( There were two, single nominees up on that cold mountain. Is she taller than the one whose poor wife is ill? ;-)

Well, like I said yesterday, the AA folks cut RC out last year because they disapproved of his behavior..... simply roughing up some BBC honcho for editing his acceptance speech at the BAFTA. C'mon.

(Evelyn) Well, like I said yesterday, the AA folks cut RC out last year because they disapproved of his behavior That situation was not so "cut and dry." The Oscar was *his* to lose and lose it he did, when the forces of Right (give it to Denzel) mobilized. From BBC News, especially for Janet2: US writer Bryson tops 'England' poll A travelogue by US author Bill Bryson has been chosen as the book which best represents England in a poll organised for World Book Day. Notes from a Small Island, a book based on Bryson's experiences in Britain, was chosen ahead of classics such as George Orwell's 1984 and George Monbiot's Captive State. In the poll, Welsh readers chose Work, Sex And Rugby by Lewis Davies, Scottish readers picked Me And Ma Girl by Des Dillon while Northern Ireland chose Desire Lines by Annie McCartney. In a separate poll organised by BBC Radio 4, English listeners made Orwell's 1984 their choice. Bryson, who lived in the UK for 20 years, said he was delighted by the honour. "I'm both grateful, and surprised, to receive this honour. "We are just about to move back to the UK so it's especially pleasing that my affection for the country has been recognised at this time." Originally from Des Moines in Iowa, he settled in England after visiting on a backpacking trip. He lived for many years in north Yorkshire with his wife and children and his book topped the best-seller lists. [...] World Book Day, organised by the Publishers Association and the Booksellers Association of the UK and Ireland, is an annual festival of reading. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts/2824715.stm

Stephen Dillane to take on the role of Merlin Fantastic! I will see any movie that has to do with the legend of King Arthur. There were two, single nominees up on that cold mountain. Is she taller than the one whose poor wife is ill? ;-) Yes. Thanks, Dorine!

(Karen)There were two, single nominees up on that cold mountain. Is she taller than the one whose poor wife is ill? ;-) This lady is very tall indeed, very glam, and to be fair, very talented--she's to die for, really.;-);-) It's predicted that her paramour's shaky marriage will last only as long as it takes for her to pick up her Oscar. (Meow;-) The Oscar was *his* to lose and lose it he did, when the forces of Right (give it to Denzel) mobilized. Yep. IMO, the industry closes ranks and protects its own. Rough up a Beeb producer? They weren't going to let that stand. And I actually thought Denzel was great in Training Day. Still, I'd have given it to RC--awesome in ABM. He'll have more chances . . . but the needs to steer clear of the booze and rein in the temper. Re: Polanski--it's not like there's no one else deserving for the award. I'd give it to Daldry or Marshall.

Re: Polanski -- that was a singular issue. Did you know that girl looked older than 13 and indeed was passing herself of as older? There's no excusing what he did if he actually had knowledge of her being a minor, but the girl went to that party, there were drugs there, film types, etc. She went looking for a movie role. It's an old clich�. She has forgiven him, he has suffered great loss. Get over it! The Pianist is the best movie of the year. That said, I think all pedophiles should be shot, no jail time on tax payers money.

(Moon)Re: Polanski--it's not like there's no one else deserving for the award. I'd give it to Daldry or Marshall. Exactly. Mari, you do know the dirt! I had no idea that mountain wasn't so cold after all.;-) Very sad story about the wife....

Oops, that was Mari, not Moon. Sorry....

(Moon) That said, I think all pedophiles should be shot, no jail time on tax payers money. LOL! Now, don't mince words. What do you really think? ;-)

Oscar Fun: http://www.maximonline.com/entertainment/articles/article_5131.html Whoopee!!! Clive IS King Arthur! Thanks, Mari

Mari: Where was this news?

Re: Polanski--it's not like there's no one else deserving for the award. I'd give it to Daldry or Marshall. Oh I agree.I wouldn't give it to Polanski.....or Scorcese,for that matter. Best movie and director don't always go hand in hand...remember SIL & Steven Speilberg won one year.*gasp* But "Pianist" is Best Movie and Adrian Brody Best Actor.

(Karen)The Oscar was *his* to lose and lose it he did, when the forces of Right (give it to Denzel) mobilized For me it had a certain ironic twist since I strongly felt that DW should have gotten it the year before for Hurricane but it went to RC for Gladiator (with the big bucks.) I then thought RC Should have gotten for ABM.

(Beedee) I strongly felt that DW should have gotten it the year before for Hurricane but it went to RC for Gladiator (with the big bucks.) I then thought RC Should have gotten for ABM. So did I. I thought Denzel's performance as the Hurricane should've won that year too.

(Mari)Why the heck couldn't CF have nabbed a role in this? Will be a huge blockbuster, lots of publicity: WOT?...and give up Trauma?;-)

A Little humor to brighten dark days: HERE AND NOW At the Oscar lectern, just point to your ribbon Here's a handy guide for the glitterati to tell us just what they are thinking. By Paul Brownfield Times Staff Writer March 6 2003 To: Presenters and winners at the 75th Annual Academy Awards From: Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences Ribbon Committee Subject: Ribbons for the 75th Annual Academy Awards Dear presenters, nominees and winners: As you know, the 75th Annual Academy Awards are taking place under the terrible cloud of a potential war in Iraq. We at the academy understand that many of you will be tempted to voice deeply held opinions -- opinions, I trust, that your assistants are busily researching at this time. However, we have a dilemma, and that dilemma is time. There is simply not enough space in our Oscar broadcast for everyone onstage to voice an opinion (do you know how long it takes to say "Paul Wolfowitz"? Try it some time). While the American public feels the Oscar telecast drags on and on, we here at the academy fully appreciate the vital (my emphasis) and courageous (Tom Cruise's emphasis) role actors and actresses play when they formulate an opinion on world affairs -- particularly when they haven't even been in a movie about world affairs. After much consideration, therefore, the academy has decided to issue various ribbons as a means of wordlessly representing the diversity of political opinion in the Hollywood community toward President Bush and U.S. military action in Iraq. These ribbons will be color coded for your convenience; we ask only that you decide which ribbon to wear no later than one week prior to broadcast and that once you decide which ribbon to wear you do not flip-flop, thus creating havoc for our volunteer staff. The ribbon color schemes will be released to the media so that Oscar viewers can follow along at home, matching ideology to their favorite star! Finally, those opting to wear a button are asked not to wear a ribbon, as the academy feels this will be aesthetically confusing. Ribbon guidelines are as follows: Red, white and blue ribbon with a green trim: You are in favor of a preemptive invasion of Iraq. Red, white and blue ribbon with a mauve trim: You are not in favor of a preemptive invasion of Iraq. Red, white and blue ribbon with a black trim: You feel a preemptive invasion of Iraq has little to do with security issues and everything to do with foreign oil interests. Red, white and blue ribbon: You have no opinion on the entire matter. Red, white and blue ribbon in the shape of a baguette: You can't understand what is up with the French. Blue and white ribbon with an orange trim (kind of a blood orange): You feel the ongoing crisis in Israel has to be priority No. 1 for the Bush administration. While you do not hold the Israeli people responsible for the actions of their government, you are dismayed at the ongoing crisis with the Palestinians. Blue and white ribbon with an orange trim (a more soothing, "desert spice" shade of orange): You feel the same as the people wearing the ribbons with the blood orange trim, but you wish to say that you not only consider Israel an important ally strategically but a friend. In fact, some of your best friends are Jewish; at parties you can be seen nodding your head as they complain about how the media distorts Israel's role in the Middle East conflict. Green ribbon (green-apple green): You drive a hybrid car; you consider yourself an environmentalist first and foremost. Green ribbon (more like a teal): OK, so you have an SUV, but you also own a hybrid car and you have instructed your nanny to use the hybrid when she takes the kids to, say, Jerry's Deli on Saturday. Ribbon with a question mark (available in white with black question mark, or black with white question mark): You don't understand how this whole U.N. resolution process works. Ribbon with an exclamation point: You can't believe the people wearing the ribbons with the question mark don't know how this whole U.N. resolution process works. Black ribbon: You feel the end of the world is at hand. Black ribbon with white trim: You feel the end of the world is at hand, but you want agents and producers to know that you're still listening to movie offers, although you are not willing to do television, unless it's a starring role in one of those criminal procedure series that people and critics seem to like.

LOL Murph. Never mind the ribbons, just gag'em. I'm only interested in what they're wearing anyway;-)

(Evelyn) Never mind the ribbons, just gag'em. I'm only interested in what they're wearing anyway;-) ROTF...I'm not a big fan of the long speech either. But, I don't think they should be gagged. They just need to get up to the podium and tell us who they are wearing (better them than Joan Rivers, IMO) and forgo the 'thanks' (we already know they want to thank their producer, director and mother)! ;-)

Murph, thanks for the LOL Paul Brownfield article. I especially loved the last one!

A Little humor to brighten dark days A little humor? Understatement! That's a lot of humor. I can't even pick out a favorite from that list. They're a riot, especially the detail on the precise shade of a color. More like teal but not desert spice, eh? And the baguette! This is too funny. many of you will be tempted to voice deeply held opinions -- opinions, I trust, that your assistants are busily researching at this time. Green ribbon (more like a teal): OK, so you have an SUV, but you also own a hybrid car and you have instructed your nanny to use the hybrid when she takes the kids to, say, Jerry's Deli on Saturday. Black ribbon with white trim: You feel the end of the world is at hand, but you want agents and producers to know that you're still listening to movie offers, although you are not willing to do television, unless it's a starring role in one of those criminal procedure series that people and critics seem to like. *clap clap clap* Thanks Murph for posting.

Oh, Jeez, how timely. For book club I just read Bryson's "A Walk in the Woods"; I liked it. It seems neck and neck w/ RZ and NK for best actress NK 33% think she'll win 30% think RZ will win.

deeply held opinions -- opinions, I trust, that your assistants are busily researching at this time. You feel the end of the world is at hand, but you want agents and producers to know that you're still listening to movie offers, Oh, Murph, too funny! I am LOL. Loved this, thanks for posting. BTW, the Clive/King Arthur news was on Coming Soon, and they cited the Hollywood Reporter. Re: Oscars--It would be nice if they gave them to people in the years in which they deserved them. For example, I thought Russell deserved it for The Insider; but, they passed over him and gave it to him the next year for Gladiator instead, when, IMO, he was less deserving than Denzel in Hurricane. Then last year, RC should have won for ABM, but, ooops, here comes Denzel who they slighted the previous year in favor or Crowe. My, I can't even keep it all straight!

Thank you Murph!! This article is great!!! Agree with Karen can't pick just one. Loved them all. And oh so true.

'The Hours,' Gun Documentary Win Screenplay Honors LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Social satirist Michael Moore (news)'s anti-gun documentary "Bowling for Columbine" and David Hare's dead-serious adaptation of the Pulitzer Prize-winning novel "The Hours" took top honors on Saturday at the Writers Guild of America Awards. Moore's win for best original screenplay marked the first time a documentary feature has been so honored by the Writers Guild, and Hare's award for best adapted screenplay gives "The Hours" a major leg up on the competition for that prize in the Oscars (news - web sites) this month. The Academy Awards (news - web sites), the movie industry's highest honors, will be presented March 23. Many members of the WGA, which represents U.S. film and TV writers, also cast ballots for the best-screenplay Oscars as members of the writers' branch of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (news - web sites). Last year, both of the WGA's top winners, Julian Fellowes (news)' "Gosford Park" for original screenplay and "A Beautiful Mind" by Akiva Goldman for adapted screenplay, went on to win the Oscars in those categories. "Bowling for Columbine," which also was the first documentary feature ever nominated by the Writers Guild, earned an Oscar nomination as best documentary. "The Hours," which stars Nicole Kidman (news) as British novelist Virginia Woolf in a story of three women's lives intertwined around Woolf's novel "Mrs. Dalloway," also is in the Oscar running for best picture. Kidman was nominated for lead performance and Julianne Moore (news) picked up a nomination as best supporting actress. Hare, a British-born playwright known for works exploring the difficulty of moral and emotional expression, won acclaim at the Berlin Film Festival in 1985 as the writer and director of "Weatherby," a bleak story of a schoolteacher (Vanessa Redgrave (news)) who witnesses a grad student's suicide. His screenplay for "The Hours" beat out "Chicago," "Adaptation," "About Schmidt" and "About a Boy." Moore, famed for populist attacks on corporate greed, sprang to public attention with his first film "Roger & Me." He recently made the bestsellers list with his book "Stupid White Men ... and Other Sorry Excuses for the State of the Nation." His film edged out "My Big Fat Greek Wedding," "Far From Heaven," "Gangs of New York," and "Antwone Fisher."

The NY Times: March 9, 2003 Survivor, Philosopher, Gentleman, Star By DAVID THOMSON (Murph note: author of The Biographical Dictionary of Film - a good resource book) IT is fitting that the fastidious Peter O'Toole (bookmaker's son turned gentleman) should have led us to reconsider the etiquette of that shame-faced award, the honorary Oscar. How lovely, he said, that at the age of 70 and with seven unrequited nominations on his record, he should now be on the receiving end of the academy's mortified politeness. But then, as if out of respect for old comrades like Richard Harris and Richard Burton (the only other seven-time loser, and gone before the academy could tidy up), Mr. O'Toole added that no, how nice, but no. He'd rather struggle on and take his chances that a new role and a new picture might flat-out win. Who knows what arm-twisting went on? Still, we are now being led to believe that Mr. O'Toole will attend his party. For the sake of what is so often a numbing evening, one prays this is so and that Mr. O'Toole has 10 minutes or so of clips and tribute, of his own superb talk and teasing, with some final suggestion that this statuette might be put in escrow. "Not just yet!" I can hear him saying, the way he said it one night on a London stage in the early 80's, in Shaw's "Man and Superman," when he had to walk back and forth on the lip of the stage and swayed occasionally from the embrace of that steady companion, drink, and anxious supporters in the front row of the orchestra seats reached up to stop a possible fall. "Not just yet, ladies and gentlemen!" You do not have to have met Mr. O'Toole to know that he is not just a rare survivor and philosopher but a star from a grand and golden age. If you have doubts, just look again at the magnificent comic timing of Alan Swann, his swashbuckling cocktail of Errol Flynn, Tyrone Power, John Barrymore and Johnnie Walker in "My Favorite Year" (1982) � one of the seven no's. (After all, it was only a comedy.) Like Mr. O'Toole himself, Alan Swann has the gaunt-visaged, wide-eyed look of a man who can believe in every fresh form that disaster can take. Mr. O'Toole has been told by the London press that he was a disgrace to the Old Vic and Shakespeare with his travesty of a Macbeth in 1980. He has been warned so many times of his own demise. And he has responded by perfecting the look and manner of a very polite, but very insolent, ghost. He is theater through and through, as witness his apprentice years at the Bristol Old Vic when he did one of the great Hamlets, along with Chekhov, Beckett and John Osborne's Jimmy Porter, plus the dame in the theater's annual pantomime. And then, after he had yielded a goodly part of his interior to surgery, he came back on the London stage in 1989 in the play "Jeffrey Bernard Is Unwell," a one-man show and a bow to being self-destructive, alcoholic but undefeated. He has not often accepted tributes and awards. But maybe it was being 70 that persuaded him to go into the Colorado Rockies last August for a tribute at the Telluride Film Festival � an event of such wonder it surely started the academy's thought processes. He came a little shyly, or hesitantly, to 9,000 feet. He had been warned of the altitude. And he sipped the one drink a doctor had allowed before entering the throng of that very sociable festival. That was Thursday night. By Sunday, he was the toast of the town, having engaged in a thrilling battle of literary quotations with Roger Ebert in the onstage tribute and having gone all over town to showings of "Rough Shoot," a 1978 television film from the Geoffrey Household novel in which Mr. O'Toole plays an English sportsman who gets a shot at Hitler, and the film of "Jeffrey Bernard." Then on Monday he hired a local guide and a gun and actually went shooting. He was, as he has always been, a gent who gives great value. He is not just a marvel as a speaker but a very good writer; his memoir, "Loitering With Intent," is not to be missed, no matter that it says relatively little about his own career and so much about his bookmaker father and Mr. O'Toole's preoccupation with Hitler, formed as a child listening to radio speeches, but since developed into scholarship. It is acknowledged that this insouciant and not always organized man has had such troubles in his life that his career has often looked untidy. So be it, if that's your point of view; Mr. O'Toole does not offer the comfort of blaming anyone else. On the other hand, you might as well pick out these straws amid the untidiness: the central force that challenges sun, light and desert and holds "Lawrence of Arabia" (1962) together; the king, Henry II, in "Becket" (1964, with his pal Burton) and the same king in "The Lion in Winter" (1968), with Katharine Hepburn as his queen. (She was 25 years his senior, but he was used to that: at Stratford he had done "The Taming of the Shrew" with Peggy Ashcroft as his Kate.) Then there are "Goodbye, Mr. Chips" (1969), "The Ruling Class" (1972) and that uncanny, seductive tribute to every Hollywood madman, Eli Cross, the director in Richard Rush's "Stunt Man" (1980). There's the seven for you, with "My Favorite Year." Which leaves such extras as a fabulous "Svengali" for television (with Jodie Foster as his Trilby); Lord Jim, in a film of that title that flopped; Robin MacGregor in a version of "Kidnapped"; the mountie who is saved by Anthony Quinn in "The Savage Innocents"; several angels in "The Bible"; Don Quixote in "Man of La Mancha"; Tiberius in "Caligula"; Robinson Crusoe in "Man Friday." And so many others, not forgetting the priceless interviews � for surely any modern actor knows that they have become a genre, if not quite a medium. Yes, that omits a lot of titles, plenty of which are best forgiven or forgotten. So long as you recognize that an actor famous for being unwell has also worked astonishingly hard � he had more than 50 parts at the Bristol Old Vic in four years. But even so, looking on the rich best side of Peter O'Toole, even with a careful accounting of the seven times he did not quite persuade enough academy members to vote for him, you may still have to have this outrage explained twice before you swallow it: that as well as the seven, he was not even nominated for his suave but furled bicycling teacher in Bertolucci's "Last Emperor." So, be patient and understanding if this heartfelt actor and gracious man says "Not quite yet" to Oscar after all.

Thanks, Murph, for the article on POT. Sadly, POT has looked about 75 for the past 20 years. When I see how handsome he was in LOA, it's hard to believe it is the same person. I don't mean this in a mean-spirited way--I just find it very sad that alcohol has frequently gotten in the way of his talent and potential. Onto another topic... What does everyone make of the musicians' strike on B'way? Sept. 11 nearly did Broadway in, and now this? ;-( Of course, I don't know enough about the back history to know whether the producers are just plain greedy or the musicians are unrealistic in these tough economic times....

Was thinking the same thing Lisa JH while reading that article in the paper that had an awesome picture of P'OT as LOA with it. What incredible eye. And he is cooler than hell. Thanks Murph....you beat me to it. (Murph) What does everyone make of the musicians' strike on B'way? Sept. 11 nearly did Broadway in, and now this? ;-( Of course, I don't know enough about the back history to know whether the producers are just plain greedy or the musicians are unrealistic in these tough economic times.... Don't know enough about it to have an opinion. From what I could tell, some people in the industry were probably surprised that the actors equity voted to support them. At least this is the impression I got overhearing some conversations in the audience at a dress rehearsal Friday before the decision was made. Bet this may hasten the demise of some shows that may be just hanging on, so anyone who has tickets for musicals in the next few months may want to check periodically to make sure they are still around. :(

Article in NYTimes on such; "Theatres dark, Rest of NY shudders" http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/09/arts/theater/09BROA.html Seems musicians are the victims of technology. Synthesizers and such reduces the number of musicians in the orchestra pit. And then there's the issue of canned music. I must admit, I hate paying $100. for a musical and having to hear music on tape. CONTACT had taped music and I thought they had a nerve charging as much as if they had an orchestra.

(Evelyn) And then there's the issue of canned music. I must admit, I hate paying $100. for a musical and having to hear music on tape. CONTACT had taped music and I thought they had a nerve charging as much as if they had an orchestra. And you know they won't reduce ticket prices with canned music all around. Just think of that potential profit margin. :(

Wow! I'm floored RZ beat out NK for the SAG award. Seems she has a real shot at the Oscar now. It was NK's to lose. And lose it she may.

Last week's BBC Radio 4 "Book of the Week" program featured Nick Hornby reading chapters from his newest, "Songbook." He read two chapters each day (Monday through Friday). I found it quite interesting to hear NH read. If anybody's interested, here's the web address: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/book_of_the_week.shtml I apologize for not posting this sooner. The Monday reading will disappear tomorrow, which means (unless my math is faulty) at 7 a.m. EST. The Tuesday reading will remain until that time Tuesday, and so forth. The readings may be archived somewhere after they are removed, but I'm new to this site and haven't figured out exactly how it works.

(Dorine), I'm floored RZ beat out NK for the SAG award. By her reaction, she probably thinks the Oscar is in the bag. But the SAG people screwed things up royally by not nominating Meryl S as Best Actress for The Hours. I loved her RZ dress and Meryl's new hairdo. It looks like CZJ and DDL all the way.

(Dorine), I'm floored RZ beat out NK for the SAG award. Move over Virginia Woolf...here comes Roxie!! Whoa! Big coup for Renee to get this award from her fellow actors. And she didn't even need a nose;-) (Moon)I loved her RZ dress Oh I did too. V. elegant.Reminiscent of Balenciaga. Was Julianne Moore trying to outdo J. Lo? That dress...ug. But I liked Uma Thurman's. (Moon) It looks like CZJ and DDL all the way. NY Times yesterday called DDL "the most gifted actor of his generation." http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/09/movies/09LYAL.html The reverence for him in that audience was palpable. They were transfixed by his every word.

RZ's win IMO was really out of left field. But it really fit in with the film montage they showed of other actors not known for their singing in musical roles. (Loved how it ended with totally untalented in any genre Keanu!) And she sure likes those vintage dresses.

This probably shows how great the cultural divide. Nos. 1, 3 and 9 wouldn't even make any American list. ;-) From Ananova: Italian Job one-liner is 'cinema's greatest' An immortal comment from Michael Caine in The Italian Job has been named the greatest one-liner in cinema. Movie fans say the Caine's classic pay-off: "You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off" is the top screen line. Runner-up in the Orange poll was Rhett Butler's (Clark Gable) put-down from Gone With The Wind: "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn." Cult hit Withnail And I came in third place for the line "we want the finest wines available to humanity, we want them here and we want them now", delivered by Richard E Grant. Kenneth Williams's speech "infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me" as Julius Caesar in Carry On Cleo is at number nine. The survey was carried out to mark a series of talks at the British Library called the Orange Word Screenwriters season featuring movie writers such as Chris Columbus, Hanif Kureishi, Mike Leigh and Withnail creator Bruce Robinson. Listeners to radio station BBC London also took part in the poll, which also identified the duffest lines on screen. Andie MacDowell's cringeworthy "Is it raining? I hadn't noticed" from Four Weddings and a Funeral was voted the worst line. Top 10 Film lines: 1. "You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off" - The Italian Job 2. "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn" - Gone with the Wind 3. "We want the finest wines available to humanity, we want them here and we want them now" - Withnail and I 4. "You talkin' to me?" - Taxi Driver 5. "I love the smell of napalm in the morning" - Apocalypse Now 6. "I'll have what she's having ..." - When Harry met Sally 7. "All my life I wanted to be a gangster" - Goodfellas 8. "I do wish we could chat longer. But I'm having an old friend for dinner" - Silence of the Lambs 9. "Infamy, Infamy, they've all got it in for me" - Carry on Cleo 10. "He's not the Messiah - he's a very naughty boy" - Life of Brian

Empire has a little poll up: Which one of the following actors most deserves to have been on Vanity Fair's Hollywood cover shoot? Mel Gibson Colin Farrell George Clooney Vin Diesel Orlando Bloom Leonardo DiCaprio (Note absence of...) Anyway, GC immediately came to mind when I unfolded the cover panels.

(Karen-article)Top 10 Film lines This is one topic, where it is hard to keep up. And this list just prooves my ignorance once more. I only knew four of the lines (4, 6, 8 and 10). The dinner remark still makes me laugh. And the Empire-list. Yes, I notet the absence, and agree that having said that, GC must be the second best for the job.

(Annette) I only knew four of the lines You didn't know #2? Interesting article about trying to turn around the declining A&E network (The median viewership age for A&E is in the mid-50s, Raven said.) http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=529&ncid=529&e=14&u=/ap/20030309/ap_en_tv/ap_on_tv_a_e_network

(Note absence of...) Anyway, GC immediately came to mind when I unfolded the cover panels. I noted the absence of Ben Affleck. Who cares about Edward Norton? Good issue, BTW. I loved the article by Bob Weinstein. " "When the audience wants more from TV, they should be turning to A&E." Since I got my Dish satellite, I never look at A&E anymore unless it's a "special". Boooorrrring

Whoa! Big coup for Renee to get this award from her fellow actors. And she didn't even need a nose;-) LOL! What a (pleasant, IMO) surprise. NY Times yesterday called DDL "the most gifted actor of his generation." I loved DDL's acceptance speech. Very heartfelt, down to earth, no "actorly" BS. He talked about how people wanted to wrap him in doublet and hose early in his career, but he always wanted to be in movies. Very gracious in acknowledging the friendship and support he's received from the acting community here.

I liked DDL's acceptance speech too and the list of films that had made an impression on him at a young age. There's a common element among them. Did you catch DDL's reaction to the clip of Sean Hayes doing the superficial acting instructor on Will & Grace? He got a real kick out of it.

He talked about how people wanted to wrap him in doublet and hose early in his career Maybe that's why he walked off of Hamlet? ;-)

(Karen)the film montage they showed of other actors not known for their singing in musical roles. (Loved how it ended with totally untalented in any genre Keanu!) And a few splices before Keanu, wasn't that Sir Lawrence O. singing in LE?!! Was disappointed Renee spoke so much about Hugh only during her interview on Inside the Actor's Studio during BJD discussion. Does one need to be part of the Actor's Studio in order to be even mentioned? CF always seems so close, yet so far away from even a glimpse or a sound bite. Am happy RZ won the SAG, she was so excited going up there and the heart of her speech was good, but did it look to anyone like she forgot or thought she might mispronounce Pierce's whole name (there was a pause) and chose to refer to him as "Mr. Bond" instead (after receiving his kiss)? He looked sort of disappointed/insulted by that pigeon holing, especially at the SAGs around all those actors. But just IMO, I've been wrong before ;-).

(Lora) wasn't that Sir Lawrence O. singing in LE?!! No, I'm pretty sure that was his famous role as Archie Rice in The Entertainer.

I liked DDL's acceptance speech too and Christopher Walken's speech cracked me up. It looks like he's a shoo in too. Karen, are you sure RZ dress was vintage? This one, with those vv long sleeves, looks current. I liked Uma Thurman's dress too, Evelyn. She looked vg. Lots of actresses going for that big cleavage thing, Melissa Gilbet?! And, we got to see a bit of JN, from the Jerry and Dino clip!

(Karen)No, I'm pretty sure that was his famous role as Archie Rice in The Entertainer. Oh well, but it did remind me right away of LE :-). Was thinking that CF was just backstage in that clip ;-). Thanks for clearing that up in my mind's eye. (Moon) Lots of actresses going for that big cleavage thing, Melissa Gilbet?! I thought the same thing. As the president of SAG I especially thought she ought to act her age. Julianne's had too much material in that belly button neckline. Only Debra Messing can carry that neckline (or maybe it works because it's not so carried ;-)). DM did look beautiful - almost bridal.

Karen, thanks for the Top 10 Film Lines! Number 3 (Withnail and I) is probably my favorite comedy from the 80s (also recommend "How to Get Ahead In Advertising" if you are fan of dark comedies or Richard E. Grant). Missed the SAG Awards (completely), so thanks everyone for the reviews.

Re: Top 10 Film Lines, I can't believe they didn't pick something from Patton.

Or Die Hard :)

Looks like it's over: Broadway Musicians' Strike Ends with Agreement http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=769&ncid=805&e=8&u=/nm/20030311/music_nm/leisure_broadway_dc

From THR: London theaters pump life into worn down West End By Frank Scheck LONDON -- A recent visit to London's West End amply demonstrated that it still boasts a theatrical vitality and variety that its counterpart in New York can only envy. A serious theatergoer could choose among Brecht and Weill's "The Threepenny Opera"; Gilbert & Sullivan's "HMS Pinafore," performed by the venerable D'Oyly Carte Opera Company at the theater where it originally premiered; Shakespeare's "The Tempest" and "Macbeth"; plays by August Strindberg, Salman Rushdie, Noel Coward, Mike Leigh and David Hare; and performers on the order of Judi Dench, Ralph Fiennes, Maggie Smith, Derek Jacobi, Tom Courtenay, Ian McKellen and Janet McTeer. Thanks to the continued presence of such invaluable, government-funded institutions as the National Theatre and the Royal Shakespeare Company, one could also take in a Jacobean drama ("The Duchess of Malfi") and five obscure plays written during Shakespeare's time, including his own rediscovered work "Edward II." (Shakespearean productions, by way of contrast, rarely show up on the Great White Way unless they're British imports or feature a TV star like Kelsey Grammer.) It's also still possible to see such long-running favorites as "The Phantom of the Opera," "Les Miserables," "My Fair Lady," "Blood Brothers" and the longest-running play of all time, Agatha Christie's "The Mousetrap." Pop music aficionados can choose among shows devoted to the songs of ABBA ("Mamma Mia!"), Culture Club ("Taboo"), Madness ("Our House") or Queen ("We Will Rock You"), while family audiences can take in "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang," "The Lion King" and "Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat." It's enough to make a theater lover's head spin. To see these productions, however, theatergoers must surmount some problems. The first is the physical state of the aging theaters, which Member of Parliament Chris Bryant recently described in a news conference as "not right for the modern world." Producer Cameron Mackintosh, who owns seven West End theaters, is spending �30 million ($48 million) on renovations, with �7 million ($11.2 million) spearheaded for the Prince of Wales alone. One of the city's most venerated theaters, the Old Vic, recently got a creative shot in the arm with the announcement that Kevin Spacey will be its new artistic director. But it also was acknowledged that more than a half-million dollars was needed to repair the decrepit roof of the 185-year-old building. Transportation problems in the area also need to be addressed. Recently, a controversial "congestion charge" was levied on cars entering central London in an effort to keep traffic down. Further, there is a general consensus that the mass transportation system serving the area needs to be dramatically improved. Really Useful Theatres is distributing questionnaires to its patrons, polling them on whether the company should take the dramatic step of running its own bus service to "take audience members quickly and cheaply out of the West End at the end of the evening." Frith Banbury, who has been producing shows on the West End for more than half a century, said, "The West End itself is now very tacky, and a lot of people are not keen to go there." Among the other problems, he said, are the lack of viable product, the ever-increasing costs of putting on a production and the audiences themselves. Critic Michael Billington of the Guardian apparently agrees; he began a recent review of a show staged at a prison by saying, "You certainly meet a better class of audience in prison than you do at the average West End first night." Regardless, Banbury is undeterred from producing yet another show later this year, though he admits, "I must be entirely, absolutely mad." While such prominent figures as Andrew Lloyd Webber have declared that ticket prices need to be increased in the commercial sector (they still run significantly less than on Broadway), Mayor Ken Livingstone disagrees. He has established Get Into London Theater, a program offering discounted tickets during the winter months, traditionally a slow theatergoing time, to West End shows as well as dance and opera productions. Ticket prices range from �10-�20 ($16-$32). Seniors and youngsters get in for as little as �5 ($8) to many shows. Nicholas Hytner, the new director of the National, has instituted a new program of reduced pricing, with two-thirds of the seats in the Olivier, its largest theater, priced at a mere �10 ($16), with the rest going for �25 ($40). There's no denying the massive importance the West End theater industry has for the British economy. The Wyndham Report, commissioned in 1998 by the Society of London Theatre, determined that West End theater, on which about 41,000 jobs depend, made a total economic impact of �1.075 billion ($1.72 billion) the previous year, with �250 million going toward tickets and another �433 million on restaurants, hotels, transport and merchandise. The latest news is even better; about 12 million people attend West End productions every year, and there was a 3.2% rise in attendance last year -- a remarkable statistic considering the current depressed states of the economy and tourism. Nightlife in the area also appears to be thriving as restaurants ranging from the venerable Rules (London's oldest) to the ultratrendy, Asian-themed Hakkasan appear to be packed night after night. [Ed note: But you can't just go for a drink as everything closes so early.] Adding further luster to the West End scene: Hollywood stars. The ads for the production "This Is Our Youth" proclaim that "Hollywood is back in town!" and it's no lie. That production's revolving cast has included Matt Damon and Jake Gyllenhaal; the current stars are Chris Klein and Freddie Prinze Jr. Other luminaries who have made the trans-Atlantic journey in recent seasons include Gwyneth Paltrow, Madonna, Glenn Close, Brendan Fraser, Woody Harrelson and Gillian Anderson. The trend shows no signs of abating. Currently on view is Michael Richards ("Seinfeld"), starring in a revival of "Arsenic and Old Lace," and later this year, during his hiatus from "Friends," Matthew Perry will appear, along with Minnie Driver and Hank Azaria, in a production of David Mamet's "Sexual Perversity in Chicago."

"about 12 million people attend West End productions every year, and there was a 3.2% rise in attendance last year -- a remarkable statistic considering the current depressed states of the economy and tourism." Bet they don't get 'em in '03;-) Julianne Moore's dress was out of proportion. Would have looked better long like DM's.

(Karen) Looks like it's over: Broadway Musicians' Strike Ends with Agreement Thanks for the update. I'm glad it got resolved quickly.

(Dorine) Wow! I'm floored RZ beat out NK for the SAG award. Seems she has a real shot at the Oscar now. It was NK's to lose. And lose it she may. I was so glad RZ won was really rooting for her. Would love to see her get the Oscar. Could kind of be like the "Triple Crown": Golden Globe, Actor, Oscar. Thought the show was really good. Liked DDL speech especially where he told Harvey he would thank him later but this evening was to thank his fellow actors. Agree he is held in high regard. He did get a kick out of Will and Grace clip. DM is amazing. She always looks good and always makes the top of the lists. Good taste.

Hey, much to my surprise when I got VF today (at a dollar a pound) I found that there is at least $3 worth of fun stuff in it. That means I only paid $2 for that picture of the lovely, muffled Colin. I love a bargain!

Random thoughts from recent viewings... From Emma - IMO It all boils down to when JN says "Indeed we are not" ... From Valmont - How did MT's line "You shouinta dunn that" not get axed or repaired? Also from Valmont - When Valmont dances with the four ladies, there is a musical piece that begins with a bassoon melody, meanwhile the bassoonist in the orchestra is holding his prop, the bassoon, like a 10 pound inactive bubble machine, clearly not aware this was his 2 seconds to shine...

Oh my! They've created a monster. ;-) Entertainment - Hollywood Reporter Gere waltzes into Miramax 'Dance' By Zorianna Kit LOS ANGELES (The Hollywood Reporter) --- After tap dancing his way through Miramax Films' "Chicago," Richard Gere (news) will take on ballroom dancing for his next project. The actor is set to star in Miramax's "Shall We Dance?" -- a remake of the 1996 Japanese feature that Peter Chelsom will direct. Production is scheduled to begin in June. Audrey Wells scripted the remake, which is a romantic comedy about a man who takes ballroom dancing lessons to impress a beautiful young dance teacher. A high-profile actress is expected to be cast soon in the role of the teacher. Adam Fields is producing the project. Gere, repped by ICM, is coming off a successful year that included a Golden Globe win and a SAG nomination for his performance in "Chicago" and rave reviews for his performance opposite Diane Lane (news) in "Unfaithful." (Gere also won a SAG Award as part of "Chicago's" ensemble cast.) Miramax, which acquired "Dance" in 1996, released the original film in 1997 and began developing an English-language version shortly thereafter.

What is this about? Ladies, please check what topic you are on before posting. It looks as though our sophmore class may not be graduating. ;-)

(article)..released the original film in 1997 I actually saw that one, and liked it very much. Thank you for the article, Dorine.

(Dorine) Oh my! They've created a monster. ;-) Why? It's just ballroom dance. They haven't exactly cast him as Bernardo in West Side Story yet. ;-)

(Karen) What is this about? Ladies, please check what topic you are on before posting. It looks as though our sophmore class may not be graduating. ;-) Sorry Karen...

OMG..sorry to repost, but (laughing) that last picture was supposed to show a dunce cap smiley...how fitting I got the kiss of embarassment box....

(Dorine) Oh my! They've created a monster. ;-) (Karen) Why? It's just ballroom dance. They haven't exactly cast him as Bernardo in West Side Story yet. ;-) Give them time, just give them time. ;-)

a remake of the 1996 Japanese feature that Peter Chelsom will direct. FYI, Peter Chelsom is such a loser of a director. He is regularly ridiculed at most of the movie sites and is the man behind the biggest box office flop of all time (Town & Country) and he made the loser Serendipity. Doesn't bode well at all. :-( (I'll watch my vid of the original, thank you very much.)

(Karen) the biggest box office flop of all time (Town & Country) Really, Town and Country? Not Heaven's Gate, Pluto Nash, or....what was the name of that Schwartzeneger one..something with a kid and a rocket, or something like that? Or Ishtar?! ;-)

Not sure where to post this, an article about Andrew Davies which mentions BJD EOR and Darcy but which is more about, well, Andrew Davies... http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/03/13/1047431124407.html

Oscar nomination is actor's ticket to DeKalb MICHAEL KILIAN Chicago Tribune March 13, 2003 NEW YORK -- An Oscar nomination usually means a big bounce for a movie career. Veteran British actor Tom Wilkinson had every right to expect a lot of doors to be opening for him after his nomination for best actor last year for his role in the psychological thriller "In the Bedroom." Instead, he soon found himself enjoying the scenic wonders of DeKalb, shooting a made-for-cable movie about a Midwestern tractor factory foreman who decides to undergo a sex-change operation. "I was initially resistant to doing it, because it was a television thing," he said, in an interview here. "I felt my position was, `What's the point if you get an Oscar nomination and the next thing you do is a television show?' But my agents prevailed on me, saying it was too good to miss -- and there was nothing else doing." The breaking point The film, "Normal," telecast at 9 p.m. Sunday on HBO, pairs Wilkinson and Jessica Lange as a long-married and archetypal Midwestern couple whose strong bonds are strained to the breaking point by the husband's sudden announcement that he is a woman in a man's body. "This is not a film about gender change," insisted writer/director Jane Anderson. "It's about a marriage, and what happens to it when confronted by the biggest challenge any marriage could face." "It is a character study -- in depth," said Lange. "I don't think stories like that are all that common anymore." Lange is a Midwesterner who has moved back to her native Minnesota. But Wilkinson is a classically trained British actor. Wasn't the transformation to stolid Midwesterner as difficult as his screen transformation from man to woman? "Not as much as you would think," he said, "because I'm from farming stock myself. I think that held-in stoicism that's characteristic of the Midwest, certainly in the rural farming communities, is something I could relate to very well. My father was a farmer and his father and his father and his father and his father, into the mists of time." Anderson, who earlier wrote the script for HBO's "If These Walls Could Talk 2," starring Vanessa Redgrave as a "widowed" partner in a lesbian marriage, said she wanted Wilkinson for the "Normal" lead "because he represents the universal ordinary man more than any other actor I know of." He said he made no special preparation for the role because his character had made no special preparation for his sex change. "I wanted it to be a bit like the character, who sort of doesn't quite know what he's into," Wilkinson said. "It isn't as if he's been a habitue of the cross-gender clubs in Amsterdam." Indeed, they shot the film in and around DeKalb, whose impression on Wilkinson is perhaps best summed up by the fact that he couldn't remember which month he was there. That country "seemed to sort of replicate itself every 40 or 50 miles," he said. "You'd travel along and there would be the same shops: Wal-Marts and these long lines of huge stores that seemed to be absolutely identical to those you'd seen three-fourths of an hour earlier." His motel was "very nice," he said, "but they don't give you food. No bar. No restaurant. No room service. You had to go out. There was only one restaurant in town that anyone ventured to eat in. It was one of those steak places." The road to DeKalb -- and far beyond -- began in the 1960s for the 54-year-old Wilkinson. Benefiting from the breakup of the rigid British class system that began then, the one-time farm boy was able to enter and graduate from the University of Kent and London's prestigious Royal Academy of Dramatic Arts. He became a major star of the London stage and a leading performer on British television, but he did few films because England had more or less lost its movie industry. Six years or so ago, he began to note the large number of colleagues heading across the Atlantic to Hollywood. "I said, `That seems to be where the big boys are, and I want to sit down at that table for a bit.'" The films "The Full Monty" and "Shakespeare in Love" got him a place at the table and led to his remarkable dramatic turn in "In the Bedroom." Opening doors And there has proven to be more in the offing from his Oscar nomination than his sojourn in DeKalb. He has just finished shooting a comedy in New York with Jim Carrey, Kate Winslet and Kirsten Dunst called "The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" (I hope Hollywood doesn't reduce that to "Sunshine"), the title deriving from a line in Alexander Pope's "Rape of the Lock." "It's written by the clever young writer Charlie Kaufman, who wrote `Being John Malkovich,'" Wilkinson said, "and it's along similar themes: people inhabiting other people's heads, and I mean that quite literally." Late last year he joined Colin Firth and Scarlett Johansson in making "The Girl With a Pearl Earring," a film about the painter Johannes Vermeer and his most famous portrait subject, which will be released later this year. Next fall, he'll do an English movie, "but that leaves a gaping hole in the middle of the year, and I'd like to fill it with something nice," he said. "But it may mean playing golf all summer." Certainly they have some nice courses around DeKalb.

Say It Isn't So! Between this and the need for a possible Soprano withdrawal pill, I'm in a funk. *************************** Universal Studios Faces French-Fried Fate By Meredith Amdur and Jonathan Bing NEW YORK (Variety) - Now that French fries have been renamed "freedom fries" in the cafeteria of the U.S. Congress, what will they call them at the Universal Grill? Morale is falling at Universal Studios as the French chief of Vivendi Universal, Jean-Rene Fourtou, continues to dither over the sale of his U.S. entertainment assets. Wall Street has been vocally unhappy with Vivendi's fuzzy strategic guidance, with Vivendi shares currently trading at three-month lows. On the lot, executives and staffers are putting on a brave public face. Universal Pictures brass descended on the ShoWest exhibitors convention in Las Vegas last week to unveil their 2003 slate, which shifts into high gear on Memorial Day with the Jim Carrey (news) comedy "Bruce Almighty," followed by tentpoles like "The Hulk" and sequel "2 Fast 2 Furious." Universal Pictures also is forging ahead with an ambitious 2004 slate, ramping up production on pricey films like "Van Helsing" and "Riddick," the sequel to "Pitch Black" with Vin Diesel (news). In an effort to trim spending and minimize risk, Universal Pictures recently sold international distribution rights to upcoming titles "Seabiscuit" and Peter Berg (news)'s untitled action-adventure film (formerly "Helldorado") starring the Rock and Seann William Scott (news) -- moves that could result in short-term savings of more than $75 million. But with two long months to go before summertime, the studio is stuck in the Hollywood equivalent of financial and strategic purgatory, as Vivendi Universal Entertainment president Ron Meyer struggles to stave off the perception in Hollywood that Universal is slashing budgets and laying off staff. Vivendi Universal Entertainment shareholder and CEO Barry Diller continues to make the final calls on budget decisions. It's been reported that, under Diller, Universal's film production and marketing budget has been cut by 25 percent for this year. Studio sources declined to comment on the budget. At the same time, Vivendi is trying desperately to refinance another $4 billion to keep itself afloat. In one related deal, the Vivendi Universal Entertainment unit is within a week of closing on a $1 billion-plus refinancing of its own corporate loans. The new financing -- which is being led by JPMorgan along with Bank of America -- primarily features commercial debt tied to projected revenue from film library. About $950 million of the financing comes from the projected catalog income and another $670 million from conventional bank loans, for a total VUE financing of $1. 62 billion. Meanwhile, the stress of cost-cutting, risk-reduction measures, slow growth and utter confusion about the future is taking its toll on the troops. The company officially denies there have been any mass layoffs or budget slashing, but sources close to the company insist some TV and film staffers are growing insecure about their jobs and updating their resumes. Much is made of the amount of money Time Warner staffers lost on their AOL stock options, but it's worth noting that most Vivendi Universal execs are sitting on options that are at least $35 per share under water. The unceasing rumors about when, how and to whom Fourtou will sell the U.S. entertainment assets certainly doesn't help morale, nor does the fact that the studio itself is increasingly looking like the ugly duckling to would-be suitors. With operating income growth slowing to a crawl, despite healthier, DVD-fueled operating margins in 2002, some financial pundits value the studio at slightly less than either the music division or USA Networks. And so far, only Marvin Davis' leveraged buyout group seems to want to buy the studio business, while other interested parties say the cable networks are of more interest. Fourtou's French reserve is, by all accounts, as exasperating to his American staff as it is to would-be buyers of his assets and potential investors in his company's stock. Davis' crew is in Paris working on the financing for its estimated $20 billion offer, but still seems to get only half an ear from Fourtou. Company insiders say they resent the style of communications (or lack thereof) that Fourtou has elected to adopt in his silent-auction process. It's as unclear now as it was three months ago what VUE chief exec Diller's designs on the business are. Some say Diller these days simply wants to get his money out of Universal and has given up on the idea that he can save the business. Others insist he's deep in negotiations with bankers to walk away with cash and some choice VUE assets, with or without John Malone's Liberty Media as partner. At the same time, the financial picture at the French concern grows murkier by the day. Fourtou has made good on his promise to trim its debt, having agreed to sell around $7 billion in assets so far. But many of those sales haven't yet put enough Euros in Vivendi Universal coffers to meet a host of big bills on its $15 billion total debt load. Vivendi has some E5.24 billion ($6.88 billion) in debt maturities and other contingent liabilities due this year, with another $10 billion or so due in March 2004. The company is believed to be working to raise and refinance some $4 billion worth of credit lines, high-yield bonds and bridge loans in order to avoid a cash crisis later this spring. Merrill Lynch believes Vivendi Universal should have enough cash to last through to September 2003 if can manage the re-financing, but that long-term solvency still depends on the one large asset that it has left to sell: VUE.

Poor Tom Wilkinson... There was only one restaurant in town that anyone ventured to eat in. It was one of those steak places." *snort* But it sounds like he really wasn't in DeKalb but somewhere outside there. Not that I've ever been to DeKalb, but there's a huge state university there (NIU), so there's a lot more than a Wal-Mart and a steak place I suspect. I'm sure he had it better than Colin in Rochelle.

"There was only one restaurant in town that anyone ventured to eat in. It was one of those steak places." But was it a good steak;-) Hey Tom, I've been to some places in England where they only had a pub...with not a v. good steak. (Karen) Poor Tom Wilkinson... I'm sure he had it better than Colin in Rochelle. And both had a job. Funny article about Andrew Davies....AKA "Dirty Ole Man"

Fluff of romance, comedy entices preteens By Claudia Puig USA TODAY Romantic comedies are rolling back the clocks. The stars are younger, as are the audiences seeing them. Meg Ryan was 28 when she made When Harry Met Sally, and Julia Roberts was 29 when she made My Best Friend's Wedding. But this year even younger stars are getting romantic: Kate Hudson, 22, stars in the $86.9-million-and-counting hit How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days. Amanda Bynes, 16, stars in What a Girl Wants, which opens April 4. Bynes, a star on Nickelodeon's The Amanda Show and the WB's What I Like About You, plays a girl who discovers the father she never knew is a British aristocrat. Along the way, she falls in love with a motorbike-riding British teen. Seventeen-year-old Malcolm in the Middle star Frankie Muniz and 15-year-old Hilary Duff (Disney's Lizzie McGuire) star in Agent Cody Banks, opening Friday. Muniz is a CIA agent assigned to get a date with Duff, whose scientist father mistakenly turns over secrets to enemy agents. Plus, Duff has just signed on for the lead role in another romantic comedy, Cinderella Story, for a reported $2 million. Tweens (9- to 12-year-olds) were largely behind the success of the holiday hits Maid in Manhattan ($93.4 million) and Two Weeks Notice ($92.6 million), and current box office smash How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, industry watchers say. (Related item: Eight actors in the mood for love.) "There's no question about it. There are just a lot of movies out there that the tween audience is driving," says Peter Adee, president of worldwide marketing for MGM, the studio behind Cody Banks and Legally Blonde. "Teens are the main audience, followed by tweens." Adee says that sometimes, teen audiences see a movie first, then pass the word along to younger siblings. This tends to be the case particularly with PG-13-rated movies, such as 2001's Legally Blonde and this year's Just Married and How to Lose a Guy. "It was girls under 21 that drove Legally Blonde," says How to Lose A Guy producer Christine Peters of the Reese Witherspoon movie that made $96.5 million. Its sequel, Legally Blonde 2: Red, White & Blonde, is due this summer. Says Adee: "With a movie like that rated PG-13, initially 13- to 17-year-olds go to see and love it, they tell their siblings and eventually, you start to have the audience get younger and younger." Industry watchers are struck by how successful romantic comedies have become by targeting younger audiences. "The target audience right now is under 21," Peters says. Within that target, preteen girls are the bull's-eye. Even though some follow the recommendations of older siblings, others are a key part of the all-important opening weekend. And they're big repeat viewers. "If we go through the movies that have opened (to big business) this year, Just Married and Kangaroo Jack had quite a few tweens," Adee says. "The tween audience is an extremely important part of who's going to the movies." How to Lose a Guy, like Legally Blonde, is rated PG-13 with the express intent of attracting young moviegoers. Just Married, which starred teen heartthrob Ashton Kutcher and Brittany Murphy, was also a modest success, grossing $55 million. "Because of the success of Just Married, you may see more even-younger-skewing romantic comedies," says Paul Dergarabedian, president of Exhibitor Relations box office tracking firm. This summer Duff will begin filming Cinderella Story, which is described by filmmakers as Clueless meets Cinderella. Duff has several other film projects slated, including the Lizzie McGuire movie, opening May 2, and Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen, not yet in production. Studios have milked the talent on Nickelodeon and the Disney Channel for films aimed at tweens, and the setting is usually a comedy with some tame romance thrown in. Producers explain that romantic comedies are filling a unique niche for those who've moved beyond kids fare. "Kids are curious, and they get a little insulted by kids' movies," says Peters. "They want to see a romantic comedy and learn from it." Twelve-year-old Becca Blasdel of Burbank, Calif., likes the blend of realism and make-believe in movies such as How to Lose a Guy and Just Married. And also the hotties who star in them. "What I like about them is that they deal with real life but in a sort of fantasy way," she says. For young girls particularly, romantic comedies fill that niche between the cartoons of their youth and the tougher fare of their later teens. "I hate scary movies and violent movies," Blasdel says. "A lot of girls my age can't handle gore. Romantic comedies are fun to see with your friends and laugh at the jokes. There could be a cute guy or someone in it that intrigues you." And like most adults these days, she is craving an escape. "It's fun to sit in the movie and forget about the real world," Blasdel says. Some might say the sexual innuendo and language in some of these films is inappropriate for the preteen set. But filmmakers point to other influences that are far more racy. "I think kids are more exposed to everything today, and they're a much more sophisticated audience," says Peters. "They have this over-the-top exposure to MTV today that is so incredibly exploitative and sensual. (They wonder) 'Am I supposed to be Christina Aguilera? Am I supposed to go out and get body piercings to be attractive?' But you can't protect them from everything, so you might as well go with it, rather than try to fight it." While child development experts might debate that point, Hollywood is all over it. Recent history has bolstered such thinking. "I think they've really hit on a way to re-invigorate the genre," says Dergarabedian. "Traditionally, if you go back to the screwball comedies of the '40s, romantic comedies appeal to a slightly older audience," he says. "But now they've opened up the genre to create characters that both men and women can relate to and somehow entice a younger audience by putting in younger stars."

"I think they've really hit on a way to re-invigorate the genre," says Dergarabedian Putting in Hunk Daddies works for me! ;-)

(Universal article)Company insiders say they resent the style of communications (or lack thereof) that Fourtou has elected to adopt in his silent-auction process. Somehow that made me chuckle. But what makes me cringe: (Tween article)Tweens (9- to 12-year-olds) were largely behind the success of .....PG-13-rated movies. If it's PG-13 isn't it supposed to be inappropriate for children younger than 13? Reminds me of the tobacco thing. They're not supposed to see those movies but they're so sophisticated, it's cool for them to do so and thus we'll aggressively advertise for them. Ok off my soapbox now... Back to teaching Freedom 102 at the university... :)

Interesting articles, ladies, thanks! "This is not a film about gender change," insisted writer/director Jane Anderson. "It's about a marriage, and what happens to it when confronted by the biggest challenge any marriage could face." ROTF! Yeah, right.

"The target audience right now is under 21," Peters says. ......Within that target, preteen girls are the bull's-eye. Get ready for more daddy roles for YKW. (Fred Mac Murray lives!)

As the mom of a 'tween', I totally see the marketing towards their age. I think at that age, they want that sort of happily ever after, because they're learning, it really doesn't happen that way. Life is hard and you have to live in it. It's just pure escapism for their young burgeoning (and i mean that literaly!) minds:)

Screen Daily: Industry prepares for 2004 pre-Oscar calendar crush Jeremy Kay in Los Angeles 14 March 2003 04:05 With much of the film industry focused on the Oscars later this month, it's hard to believe that anybody could be thinking about next year's Academy Awards ceremony. Yet that's what many senior figures in charge of film festivals and awards ceremonies worldwide are doing right now - thanks to the decision last year by the Academy to bring forward its 2004 ceremony by one month to February 29. The move has created a host of anxious diary date shifts as rival awards ceremonies struggle to position themselves just ahead of the Oscar behemoth and festivals manoeuvre to make sure they find themselves best placed to profit from the merry-go-round of stars promoting their films. The move has already resulted in several other North American awards bodies bringing forward their 2004 galas. Among the more significant declarations so far are: the Directors Guild of America, which moves from March 1 in 2003 to Feb 7 in 2004; the Producers Guild of America (March 2 to Jan 25); and the Screen Actors Guild (March 9 to Feb 22). At the time of writing, the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, which votes on the Golden Globes, the New York Film Critics Circle, the Los Angeles Film Critics Association and the Writers Guild Of America, were yet to announce a date. Internationally, the UK's BAFTA awards moved fast last year to bring themselves ahead of the Oscars once more. It will take place on Feb 8 next year. "If we had stayed where we were, we'd have been a week before the Oscars. That would have been untenable for everybody," said BAFTA boss Amanda Berry. The Berlin International Film Festival last week also announced its dates for 2004. Taking place between Feb 5-15, it will be the earliest scheduling of the festival since it moved to February in 1978. Berlin's early dates also prompted a knock-on shift for the Rotterdam Film Festival which, anxious not to overlap with the German event, brought its planned dates forward by a week. Perhaps more significantly, however, will be the effect on distributors' release strategies. For years now the studios have structured their Oscar campaigns within a rough three-month timeframe, starting with the National Board of Review awards in early December and climaxing with the announcement of the Best Picture Oscar in late March. While a revised schedule will not unduly affect the Oscar prospects of blockbuster releases like The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King, which can count on the full weight of New Line's marketing support, there is concern that the smaller distributors' platform releases may suffer. Studio executives are skilled at knowing when to roll out their platform releases - serious pictures like Chicago, The Hours and The Pianist that open in a limited number of theatres and generate sufficient buzz before expanding into more sites. Generally smaller in scope and lower profile than the average tentpole picture, platform releases need to come out early enough to be seen by awards voters and build public awareness and box office momentum. Too early, however, and the picture may be forgotten. Too late and nobody will know about it. Miramax COO Rick Sands, whose company is distributing this year's Oscar favourite Chicago as well as Gangs Of New York, Frida and The Quiet American domestically, told Screen International: "We will have less time to platform our titles. So the marketplace is going to be faster. One of two things will happen: you will either open smaller and then expand or you will open around Christmas and expand more quickly after that." Miramax's early 2004 Oscar prospects Cold Mountain and Human Stain, which both star Nicole Kidman, have been set for Dec 25 and fourth quarter 2003 respectively. The smaller distributors that tend to buy at the Venice and Toronto festivals typically require a longer lead-in to cue up their picture for a nomination and then go for the extra box office. Monster's Ball, which famously earned Halle Berry her Oscar last year, earned around half of its $31m domestic box office for Lions Gate in the lucrative six-week window between Oscar nomination and Oscar ceremony. In a compressed timeframe, smaller distributors may struggle to do the kind of figures enjoyed by Monster's Ball. Russell Schwartz, president of domestic marketing at New Line Cinema, said at ShoWest that he did not think there would be much impact at all. He argued that platform releases were not so time-specific and could go with the flow as the whole awards campaign process is shunted forward by a month. His assertion that November and December will now become the core campaigning season, 2004's two month event crush Sundance Festival: Jan 15-25 Rotterdam Festival: Jan 21-Feb 1 PGA Awards: Jan 25 Berlin Festival: Feb 5-15 DGA Awards: Feb 7 BAFTA Awards: Feb 8 SAG Awards: Feb 22 AFM: Feb 25-March 3. Academy Awards: Feb 29 * Golden Globes yet to confirm 2004 dates

There is a "first degree" cast member - See "James Connolly" in cast list at end -- and James D'Arcy plays Pullings in the upcoming Master and Commander. I also like the looks of Liam Cunningham: March 14, 2003 Romance and Rebellion in Ireland By LAURA MILLER The most remarkable thing about "Rebel Heart," a handsomely mounted romantic drama set in Ireland from the Easter Rebellion to Michael Collins's acceptance of the Anglo-Irish treaty of 1921, is that it was produced by the BBC. A balanced but generally sympathetic depiction of the Irish struggle for independence from Britain, the film will be broadcast in two parts, beginning Sunday night, on BBC America. "Rebel Heart" follows the coming of age of a fictional character, Ernie Coyne (James D'Arcy), the scion of a family of wealthy Dublin Roman Catholics with a passionate commitment to the republican cause. He is among the few volunteers who show up to help seize the city's main post office from the British on Easter Monday, 1916. A pair of older working-class riflemen, O'Toole (Vincent Regan), a Marxist, and the roguish Kelly (Frank Laverty), find untried Ernie's dewy idealism about the battle for freedom fairly amusing. "You already have what you need to be free," O'Toole says. "Money." Nevertheless, Ernie acquits himself bravely, and in doing so befriends O'Toole and Kelly and meets a saucy, rifle-wielding Belfast girl, Ita Feeney (Paloma Baeza), barricaded in a park with a rebel group. He watches raptly as Ita picks off a British sniper in a third-floor window, glimpsing an inch of her bare thigh as she proposes a near-suicidal hand grenade attack, and he's a goner. Alas, so is the uprising. Badly outnumbered, the Irish rebels surrender and are imprisoned. Ernie's father secures his release, but Ernie prefers to serve out his term. Although the British execute the uprising's leaders, Ernie and the rest of the captured rebels are released a few months later. Beanpole-thin, with a pale, delicately handsome face, Mr. D'Arcy ably negotiates the tricky role of Ernie, who nearly trembles with bashful sensitivity one moment and exhibits a doughty resolve the next. When the time comes to kill, Ernie doesn't hesitate. Still, it's a surprise when the Sinn Fein leader Michael Collins (Brendan Coyle), one of the many real-life figures who appear in "Rebel Heart," taps this still-green lad as an important asset in the newly formed Irish Republican Army. The I.R.A. sends Ernie to Belfast, where he is reunited with Ita, only to lose her again when they are among the few survivors of a police raid on her family's house. The film doesn't flinch from depicting the brutality of British rule in the North, but its approach to the conflict is ambivalent. A rousing scene of rebel courage in the face of daunting odds is likely to be followed by a fleeting shot of the pitifully boyish face of a British soldier lying dead in the street. Collins sends Ernie to the west to fire up a rural I.R.A. contingent. There, again, the excitement of seeing Ernie rise to the occasion and rally the motley volunteers into a respectable guerrilla force is undercut when he is forced to shoot the amiable local constable. In accord with the film's low-key irony, the man has just asked about life insurance to provide for his "missus" because he's ingenuous enough to have fallen for Ernie's highly unconvincing disguise as a traveling salesman. "Rebel Heart" is full of such glancing touches of bleakness, a welcome, earthy counterpoint to the grand, old-fashioned love story unfolding between Ernie and Ita. You can spot the conflict destined to tear Ernie up a mile away: his loyalty to the pragmatic Collins, who will consent to the incremental advances of the 1921 treaty rather than continue the bloody war of independence, versus his commitment to Ita and her Northern compatriots, who will be left out in the cold by the deal. There's just enough history here to keep "Rebel Heart" from seeming to use Ireland's troubles as a mere backdrop for romance and adventure. The film's end, in particular, strikes an unsentimental note. It mirrors a grimly stirring early scene in which two doomed, outgunned, battle-weary men holed up in a Dublin house prepare to face down an attack from a group of soldiers. The familiar but always terrible paradoxes of civil war, in which friends, lovers and relatives find themselves on opposing sides in a bloody conflict, have seldom felt more absurd or more inevitable. REBEL HEART BBC America, Sunday night at 9, Eastern time; 6 and 9, Pacific time; 8, Central time. Directed by John Strickland; Malcolm Craddock and Robert Cooper, producers; Ronan Bennett, writer. WITH: James D'Arcy (Ernie Coyne), Paloma Baeza (Ita Feeney), Dawn Bradfield (Ursula Feeney), Brendan Coyle (Michael Collins), Frank Laverty (Albert Kelly), Vincent Regan (Tom O'Toole), Lorcan Cranitch (Inspector Nelson), Liam Cunningham (Michael Malone), Darragh O'Malley (James Grace) and Bill Paterson (James Connolly).

Oops! I meant "one degree" in the above post. First degree comes from watching too many John Garfield movies!

Miramax Pulls Controversial 'Gangs' Ads LOS ANGELES (AP) - Citing objections from Oscar voters, Miramax Films has pulled ads featuring an opinion column that called on them to award Martin Scorsese for directing "Gangs of New York." The column written by Oscar-winning director Robert Wise, former president of the Academy Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, was later reprinted in advertisements that appeared in Hollywood trades, the Los Angeles Times and The New York Times. Miramax said late Thursday it has pulled the advertisement, which was published six times. Academy President Frank Pierson said the column breached an academy rule that voters, including Wise, should not reveal to anyone how they will cast their ballots. "It's an outright violation of academy rules," Pierson told the Los Angeles Times. "It's a corruption of the process." Vigorous campaigning during awards season is nothing new for major studios, but some academy members were outraged and said an ethical line has been crossed. "We were completely unaware that this was something academy members found offensive, and since there is nothing that addresses this in the academy marketing guidelines, we certainly did not know this practice was a violation of academy rules," Miramax's chief operating officer Rick Sands said in a statement. Barry Levinson, the Academy Award-winning director of "Rain Man," said he was among those dismayed by the studio's efforts to drum up support. "There is just something extremely vulgar about the idea of a blatant campaign advertisement like this," said Levinson. "You look at an ad like that and say, 'My God.' Why don't we just give money to people and tell them how to vote?" Pierson said an unspecified number of the 5,800 Oscar voters have asked that completed ballots be returned so they can strike Scorese's name. Despite the backlash from some academy members, mailed ballots will not be sent back, Pierson said. Ballots are due March 18, five days before the awards ceremony is scheduled to take place. Wise's column first appeared March 6 in the Daily News of Los Angeles. Wise said in the column that Scorsese deserves the Oscar for best director for his work on "Gangs of New York." He said the column was originally written by an assistant, but that he later revised that draft. Wise, 88, said his intent behind the article was to help the film at the box office. Miramax subsequently took out the ads, which declared, "Two time Academy Award Winner Robert Wise declares Scorsese deserves the Oscar for 'Gangs of New York.'" Scorsese's publicist, Lois Smith said the director was also displeased with the ads. "Marty was very touched by what Bob Wise said. But he never knew it was going to become an advertisement. He was not happy." "Gangs" has been nominated for 10 Oscars, including best picture, and is among the 40 nominations that Miramax has received this year.

Harvey's heavy hand may have cost Scorsese the Oscar. No one will ever know for sure if he doesn't win.

After all I've read about this, still can't say I'm anxious to see this. It's a tough one to call..... McGregor Comedy to Open Tribeca Fest Sat Mar 15, 5:38 AM ET - AP to My Yahoo! By The Associated Press NEW YORK - "Down With Love," starring Renee Zellweger (news) and Ewan McGregor (news), will be the opening night film at this year's Tribeca Film Festival. The 1960s-style romantic comedy stars Zellweger as a woman who has sworn off love and McGregor as a playboy who thinks he doesn't need love. It's scheduled to open in theaters May 16, but it will premiere May 6 at the Tribeca Performing Arts Center, festival planners said Friday. The Tribeca Film Festival, now in its second year, runs May 3-11. This year's festival is longer than the last, with more than 200 premiere screenings as well as panel discussions and filmmaker events. Robert De Niro (news) and his Tribeca Films partner, Jane Rosenthal, founded the festival last year to boost the lower Manhattan economy after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Last year's opening night film was "About a Boy," starring Hugh Grant (news) and Toni Collette (news), which is up for an Oscar for adapted screenplay. Tribeca Film Festival Web site: http://www.tribecafilmfestival.org

(Dorine) After all I've read about this, still can't say I'm anxious to see this. It's a tough one to call..... Don't like Ewan MacG., but I'm a sucker for all these rom-coms. Like Laura's daughter, I like the "...happily ever after" endings. C'mon...that's where we all started out...with P&P;-)

Re: Down with Love I too have some qualms about it. From what RZ said, it is a '60s rom-com (a la Doris Day-Rock Hudson) but will show what couldn't be shown then. Sort of like what was done in Far from Heaven. I wasn't terribly comfortable with FFH, as it didn't feel quite right. I have the same suspicions that it won't work in DWL. It will look like a parody.

(Evelyn) Don't like Ewan MacG., but I'm a sucker for all these rom-coms. Like Laura's daughter, I like the "...happily ever after" endings. C'mon...that's where we all started out...with P&P;-) I love the happily ever after endings too. Love the feel good movies. Thanks for articles Murph and Cheryl. Pierce Brosnan is on Actor's Studio tomorrow night.

Anybody see "Normal" last night with Tom Wilkinson and Jessica Lange. Preposterous premise, IMO. But great acting from Jessica Lange. Lots of photography reminded me of the ATA. But hey, if Colin ever takes on a role like that in serious drag...I'm outta here.

Nope, was getting my first dose of SLOW! I'm absolutely besotted with MF......so I missed NORMAL* *had to put that in to keep in Odds & Ends

Sorry about the caps. I thought that was how it was billed till I reread Karen's post. It's CF fever.

I liked "Normal" very muich. Acting was superb. Lange has never been better, and Wilkinson once again nailed the part of the middle-class, middle-aged middle-American man with a heavy heart. Good stuff. HBO rarely gets it wrong.

I found it inconceivalbe that any man who was taking so many hormones would "feel complete" without the company of fellow gay men.Changing lifestyles is part of transexual decisions; not just the surgery in itself for the sake of getting a vagina, IMO.Anyway, the characters weren't believable to me. Actually, they should have named it :"Hormone City". The whole family was going through hormone changes...mom and the kids thrown in along with "Ruth"/AKA Dad. The lesson I got was that we love ourselves above all others.

(Evelyn) But hey, if Colin ever takes on a role like that in serious drag...I'm outta here. Too bad. If LE is any indication, he's got the legs for it. ;-)

(Evelyn) But hey, if Colin ever takes on a role like that in serious drag...I'm outta here. Might be right behind ya. And who knows what kind of ideas for the future that To Wong Foo director will get for Colin while filming TEOR. ;-)

Kenneth Branagh Bags Two BAFTA TV Nominations Tue Mar 18, 3:10 AM ET Add Entertainment - Reuters/Variety TV to My Yahoo! By Debra Johnson LONDON (Variety) - Kenneth Branagh (news) has picked up two actor nominations, recognizing his performances in "Shackleton" and "Conspiracy," for the 2003 BAFTA TV awards, honoring British small-screen entertainment, announced Sunday. He will be up against James Nesbitt for "Bloody Sunday" and Albert Finney (news) for "The Gathering Storm." Performers vying for actress awards are Julie Walters (news) for "Murder," Vanessa Redgrave (news) ("Gathering Storm"), Jessica Stevenson (news) ("Tomorrow La Scala!") and Sheila Hancock ("Bedtime"). BBC1 dominates the drama series nominations, with "Clocking Off," "Cutting It," "Spooks" and "Teachers" competing. Chef Jamie Oliver ("Jamie's Kitchen") is up against fashion gurus Trinny and Susannah ("What Not to Wear") for feature show along with "Faking It" and "Lads Army." Hat Trick Prods. and BBC2 lead the entertainment performance category with "The Kumars at No. 42" (Sanjeev Bhaskar (news) and Meera Syal (news)) and "Have I Got News For You" (Paul Merton and Angus Deayton). The BAFTA TV awards, to be hosted by "Weakest Link" host Anne Robinson, will take place in London on April 13.

to be hosted by "Weakest Link" host Anne Robinson, will take place in London on April 13. Wonder if we'll get it live. How come none of these shows are featured on BBC America. Did Foyle's War play in UK yet? It was terrific (PBS here).

Soooooo quiet in here...which sends me banging around my cubicle like flubber for something, anything fun or interesting...Here is a silly little website that shows dolls that suggest or were obviously based on celebrities. No ODB but the Fiennes are there as is JN and GC and many others...