Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course

I've got a couple of questions about things that have come up that were from a long time ago. 1. Sometimes, Karen, you post older pics. I am thinking a while back when you put up the shot of CF and LD on their wedding day in the carriage. Is there somewhere in The Bucket where these older things are that I cannot find? 2. CF has been in other plays besides TDOR. Of course we all know about Hamlet and it's demise, but is there info on the really old ones from way back before the world was created that can be found somewhere? Does anyone know *everything* he's done on stage? Will think of more so I can appear to be contributing *very worthwhile* posts to this topic! ;) ;) (Double winkie)

1. No, in many cases those older pics are not on The Bucket because I didn't go back and try to establish a comprehensive Filmography approach. It would've been like re-creating the wheel. There are several other websites which would have extensive P&P pics and more are sprouting up everyday with their DVD caps. 2. There's one website that specializes in Colin's dramatic work. It has pics (if available) from the plays, scans of the programs, cast listings and more and it was put together by Luvvy, who posts here periodically. http://home.att.net/~luvvie/cf/ Actually, that was one area I've wanted to address, as I have a great deal of info on this area (reviews, programs, pics, etc.) and was revamping my 3DOR at one point to start the project...but...time, time, time...

(Lisa) Does anyone know *everything* he's done on stage? Don't know if this is everything (I'm sure I'll be missing a few), but I have a list of several. "Hamlet" You knew that already. "Another Country" CF played Guy Bennet (the role played by RE in the movie) "The Doctor's Dilemna" by Shaw. He played Loius Debedat "The Lonely Road" by Schnitzler. CF played Felix Wegrat. Also starred Anthony Hopkins. "Desire Under the Elms" by Eugene O'Neill. CF played Eben. Carmen de Sautoy (sp?) was in this as well (they were in LE together). "The Caretaker" by Pinter. I really liked this one (I have only read the plays....have yet to see ODB live). He played Aston. "Chatsky" by Griboyedov. He played the lead. Minnie Driver was in this as well "The Deep Blue Sea" I believe he only did this for television. It is a play by Terence Rattigan and CF played Freddie Page. "Three Days of Rain" you knew about this one as well.... I don't think this is a complete list...and cannot tell you if they have been discussed before, but would be interested to know if they have????

1.The Friends of Firth Scrapbook has a collection of all the old pics. http://www.grin.net/~meluchie/index1.html Meluchie took over from Robin. Back in 1996 that was the first CF website. It has a v. comprhensive collection of old pics and interviews.

TO KAREN, FOR ORGANIZING THIS FUNDRASING... To Jane Scott in Australia, and Lizza in UK

(from 165, about the Valmont bathtub photo on eBay) (Rika) A couple of us here can probably produce an identical DVD screen capture. (Kathy) So?????? we're waiting I'm going to need a day or so - real life intrudes. Maybe someone else can help in the meantime.

(Rika) I'm going to need a day or so - real life intrudes. Maybe someone else can help in the meantime. I can wait. It will be something to look forward to. :-)

Think that's Valmont? With the silver service in the foreground? So many of those pics are altered..I've gotten cynical;-)

TV Alert "Relative Values" will be shown this Wednesday on Starz cable TV at 11:30AM EST. Check you local listing of time. One of my favorites. The scene with the Girl Scouts is worth the price of admission. Once I watched it and focused on Peter Marshwood alone. Hysterical. This guy makes faces throughout!!A gem of a movie.

Is this not News?

(karen) Is this not News? Getouttahere ..move it yerself;-) Don't I do anything right?;-)

(karen) Is this not News? Well sort of, but Evelyn did actually combine it with Peter's facial expressions from RV.(winkie inserted if needed) Hey, where did everybody go? Come on out, and lets do some Firthology 101. We sure had plenty to talk about last week. Lets get those walking, butt, and bald tours up and running. Wish I knew how to type an echo. HELLOOOOOO)))))))

Hey, where did everybody go? That's what I wanna know....I'm here.Waiting...*tap* *tap*. I have emailed A&E to see if they plan to show all the P&P episodes on the Sunday aft Thanksgiving. They have done it for several years. Yup....all 6 Eps.

(lindak)We sure had plenty to talk about last week. Lets get those walking, butt, and bald tours up and running. Dang! And I was out of town for a few days...You ladies were on fire! I am just catching up from all of that fabulousness, the great pics, the copious droolability of the walking and butt discussions...I am raring to go, but I understand if we need to take the high road, so to speak for a little bit... *sniff*

(MariaT) I am raring to go, but I understand if we need to take the high road, so to speak for a little bit... *sniff* To heck with that. We really hadn't worried the hair discussion to death yet over on 163. We talked about bald vs. not-bald, but given that he's not at present bald, how about best vs. worst hair among his various characters? My nominations: Best - SLOW. I like the slightly lighter color (perhaps his natural color), and I love that his hair is almost disorderly - but not quite. So it has an irresistably tousled, "please run your fingers through me and tidy me up" thing happening. It amuses me that both of his female co-stars logged some fingers-in-hair time, not that I blame them an iota. Worst - I'm ducking the incoming tomatoes, but FP. Paul is adorable in his own way, but the hair was pretty bad.

(Rika) Worst - I'm ducking the incoming tomatoes, but FP. Paul is adorable in his own way, but the hair was pretty bad. No, no tomatoes...but I would have to disagree...I think SIL is the worst... Kind of smarmy/greasy...I was watching Nostromo the other night and thinking about his hair color, and thinking perhaps I didn't like it quite that light, and then watching as he stood in the rain and then took his wife into the mine, and then I practically levitated when he dove into her!!! At that point I was so far gone it would'nt have mattered if he had had Chia pet hair growing out of his head!!!

(Maria) ...and then I practically levitated when he dove into her!!! Guard against inappropriate outbursts at work - must stop reading at work - must stop reading at work - must stop....

(Rika) We talked about bald vs. not-bald, but given that he's not at present bald, how about best vs. worst hair among his various characters? Okay, my nominations: Best: I'm not very original...P&P. Love the darker hair (and darker eyebrows), but the Elvis chops have to be included. But I thought he looked yummy in WoF as well. Worst: His hair in Tumbledown (half shaved) was sad. But I don't think counts as he had just had surgery in the film...so, my vote is FP. I loved Paul Ashworth, but he needed a comb (but the hair suited his character....so??) (Evelyn) I have emailed A&E to see if they plan to show all the P&P episodes on the Sunday aft Thanksgiving. They have done it for several years. Yup....all 6 Eps. Have marked my calendar...will watch it on PBS (even though I own it)...that whole guilt thing, you just can't change the channel on ODB. Gotta 'support the team'! Thanks for posting everyone...bad day. 170 people laid-off at my company.

(Rika) Best - SLOW.....it has an irresistably tousled, "please run your fingers through me and tidy me up" thing happening. Worst - I'm ducking the incoming tomatoes, but FP...the hair was pretty bad Have to go out, so no time to elaborate....but am in *complete* agreement. While I didn't like his hair per se in AMITC, I *really* didn't like that wild mane in FP even though it suited his character.

(Maria T) I understand if we need to take the high road, so to speak for a little bit... Unfortunately, I've lost my High Road map, so I'll just have to take my usual route. ;-) (Rika) Worst - I'm ducking the incoming tomatoes, but FP. Paul is adorable in his own way, but the hair was pretty bad. You cut me to the quick! I love the wild look, even though it might make the "rubbed off" spots a little more noticeable. It's not my favorite, though. I guess that honor would go to P&P (sideburns and all). Haven't seen SLOW, but it sounds promising.

I just love his hair. I wouldn't like to see him lose much more of it. And I don't think I would ever like to see him with a close crop again - I just don't think it suits him. Best hair:my nomination. The best, IMHO, is in DQ, near the beginning, when he is standing outside Lucy's house. The camera pans from behind him round to the front and every time I watch it, I just want to run my fingers thru those lovely curls at his collar! - Next best is definitely SLOW.

Worst - I'm ducking the incoming tomatoes, but FP. Paul is adorable in his own way, but the hair was pretty bad. Style, not so bad...but color, Luisa. That reddish tint. Cheap dye job. (Hey, low budget film. He even wore his own clothes!)

Best hair, eh. Is it really any contest?

Yeah... I keep forgetting ATA. Personally I like: Mr. Darcy...now and forever... (Thank you Mel)

(Mari) Best hair, eh. Is it really any contest? Are we talking chest hair now??? If so, I have to change my answer!!! :-)

I agree, got sidetracked with the view of some other visible hair. (insert drool) Just to make those who have not seen DQ jealous, his hair is yummy throughout. BTW, I have a bouvier. Her name is Freddie! (insert sheepish smile) I am always cutting her soft curly hair. So I could save a big bag of it the next time. Even though it's black, it could be dyed if it is put into service! This isn�t Fred but exactly what she looks like:

(Rika)Best - SLOW Absolutely, What I wouldn't do to run my fingers through that hair. Oh, Gawd! My next favorite hair/look is Mark Darcy. I do like the perfectly groomed look now and then. I can't mention P&P because I put that role in a category all of its own. As much as I love FP, can't say that the hair does anything for me, although Paul Ashworth sends me over the moon. (Maria)Unfortunately, I've lost my High Road map, so I'll just have to take my usual route. Me too, I burned my high road map a long time ago.:-) (Tress)that whole guilt thing, you just can't change the channel on ODB I told you, it feels like you've sinned or something. (Maria)I practically levitated when he dove into her!!! At that point I was so far gone it would'nt have mattered if he had had Chia pet hair growing out of his head!!! Dove into her. I love that part. Chi, chi, chia. LOL

(Tress)Are we talking chest hair now??? If so, I have to change my answer!!!;-) (Lisa)I agree, got sidetracked with the view of some other visible hair. (insert drool) Yup, I take the holistic approach.;-) We had a fan who used to post at one of the sites who was an extra on 1,000 Acres. She said the makeup people used to mascara Colin's chest hair so it would show up better on camera. Wouldn't you love a job like that?! ;-) She had great stories, said he was a real sweetheart. (Evelyn)Mr. Darcy...now and forever... Can't argue with that choice . . he's the gold standard.

Mari...She said the makeup people used to mascara Colin's chest hair so it would show up better on camera. Wouldn't you love a job like that?! I was made for a job like that!

(Mari) She said the makeup people used to mascara Colin's chest hair so it would show up better on camera. Wouldn't you love a job like that?! ;-) Oh my.....that's my dream job. I can't believe I didn't know that there were openings for 'chest hair beauticians' (think they list stuff like that on Monster.com??). I would have remembered to do his pit hair as well (as it appears he has little/none). ;-)

(Mari) She said the makeup people used to mascara Colin's chest hair so it would show up better on camera. Wouldn't you love a job like that?! ;-) Oh. My. Goodness. (Janet, about DQ) every time I watch it, I just want to run my fingers thru those lovely curls at his collar! The curls at the collar! How could I have forgotten that? This is something you see with his hair sometimes and I love it. Allow me to use BJD to illustrate, since I don't have DQ on DVD. NOTICE This is a test of the Topic 166 Scope Question. This is only a test. The photos to follow are from BJD, but are intended to illustrate a general point and not to start a discussion about BJD. Had this been a genuine diversion to BJD, you would have been instructed to visit the appropriate topic. (Including three winkies, just to be safe) ;-) :-) 8-) Okay, now on to the illustrations of the "hair on the collar" thing. First, let's start with a view from the distance. Ding DONG! Notice how the hair comes down to a little point at the neckline in back? What's that you say? You want to zoom in for a close-up? Actually, the little curl is partly obscured by the turtleneck in the picture above, but it's such a nice view of that dark wavy hair that I figured it was worth including. I admit, that one had nothing to do with what I'm talking about, but I thought it would be fun to make Linda faint away at her keyboard. So, anyway, my point was that it's not unusual for that little curl to lap over the shirt collar.... like this: and when it happens I LOVE it. Like Janet said, it's very tempting to the fingers. I find myself looking for it now in any of his movies where he's got shorter hair. And now I think I have emigrated to the Land of the Truly Obsessed. Thank heaven I've got company! This concludes the test of the Topic 166 Scope Question. We now return you to your regularly scheduled drooling, still in progress.

Oh Rika, what yummy examples, thank you so much!

Rika...okay, if we're now talking about 'over the collar hair', I'm putting my vote in for Valmont (cuz if you're goin' over the collar, you might as well just go for it...). I hope I'm not the only one (but am prepared to be if necessary). I LOVED it. Especially when it was wet and down....see, I'm easy to please...bald or down to his butt, I love it. BTW, does anyone know if it was extensions or a wig (I'm thinking it was extensions by the front, but you never know....)?

(Tress) I would have remembered to do his pit hair as well (as it appears he has little/none). ;-) So lightly colored that you cannot tell. Either that or the local drugstore was out of the waterproof variety. ;-)

Good illustrations Rika, but not my favorite hair moments of BJD. Funny enough this topic and using BJD as an example is timely... And now I think I have emigrated to the Land of the Truly Obsessed. Well I'm right next to you in that moving van.... On one of my recent trips, I took my computer and a couple of movies, including BJD to watch in case the plane movie wasn't something I wanted to see. I got as far as the Kafka Motorbike party, when I started focusing on his hair. First noticing how noticeable the thinning was on the shot as he walks into the room during Bridget's intro. *Then* I noticed all those wonderful waves on the side and back of his head as he's talking with SR and Natasha just as he tries to excuse himself to go over to Bridget. I just kept rewinding that and stopping on that frame to ogle the pattern those gorgeous waves made. *sigh* Not sure if I can grab that to illustrate. The DVD isn't in the computer at the moment anyway. In BJD, I thought his hair was a tad bit short for me until her bday party. Wasn't thrilled with it at the T&V party. But at the end, Oh mama!

(Rika) Best - SLOW. I like the slightly lighter color (perhaps his natural color), and I love that his hair is almost disorderly - but not quite. So it has an irresistably tousled, "please run your fingers through me and tidy me up" thing happening. It amuses me that both of his female co-stars logged some fingers-in-hair time, not that I blame them an iota. I loved his hair in SLOW too. One of my favorites. Was perfect style for role of playboy/writer. I think one of the most flattering for him. Just framed his face perfectly. Also love the hair in Lost Empires. Agree P&P is category all of its own. Watched "You've Got Mail" last night, a favorite. Never realized the similarites with P&P before. Also book is alluded to many times and the copies Tom and Meg are reading have picture of JE and CF on cover. Thought that was pretty neat. Obvious that director thought JE and CF the consumate Elizabeth and Darcy. Actually just love his hair in everything. Just love him.

Gee, Rika, I think you passed the test. I'm not sure, because the illustrations made me forget (as in not care about) the reason for the test. Ding dong, indeed!! (Tress) I would have remembered to do his pit hair as well (as it appears he has little/none) (Karen) So lightly colored that you cannot tell. I noticed in one of the scenes in FP that it is very light, but there. I think it's just as he gets up from the bed, before donning the Arsenal boxer shorts. I think I'd make an excellent Body Hair Mascara Madam. I'd be very meticulous, making sure to get every single hair. :-)

(Tress) I would have remembered to do his pit hair as well (as it appears he has little/none) Maybe they tried, but just couldn't because he's just very, very ticklish.... *lol*

(Dorine) *Then* I noticed all those wonderful waves on the side and back of his head as he's talking with SR and Natasha just as he tries to excuse himself to go over to Bridget. I just kept rewinding that and stopping on that frame to ogle the pattern those gorgeous waves made. *sigh* Visual aid (I think I have the right moment):

Oh, Oh My! Can you see that one little curl breaking free from the rest, a little ways down from his ear??? I have dibs on that! Actually, I have dibs on that whole section there from the sideburns to the chin and on back around to the entire neck and what disappears below the collar. And did I mention the ear? I want that too.

Rika - You rule... (Tress) that whole guilt thing, you just can't change the channel on ODB Speaking of this, (and looking for a little sympathy or empathy) I got home last night and flipped through the channels, ever eager to find one of ODB's movies on prior to watching one of his videos. I didn't see anything so I may a few phone calls, played w/the cats, etc. Then I flipped through once more about a half hour later and Fever Pitch had been on for almost an hour!! I was tormented! This is completely irrational!! I have Fever Pitch on video and could have watched it back to front if I wanted!! I can't stop exclamating!! Does this make any sense? (bang bang bang) (head banging on desk) It is as though I am mourning the loss of that hour in which it was broadcast freely to the world while I carelessly went about my life. Ah well, I'm sure some of you understand...

Oh, Rika!!!! Bless You! Bless You! You hit it right on the money! *heavy sigh* (overall still like hair in SLOW best though) (Lisa) Oh, Oh My! Can you see that one little curl breaking free from the rest, a little ways down from his ear??? I have dibs on that! Actually, I have dibs on that whole section there from the sideburns to the chin and on back around to the entire neck and what disappears below the collar. And did I mention the ear? I want that too. Hey! Hey! This is *my little moment*, but I can share....sometimes ;) ;) Actually Lisa, for you, all the time as thanks for all your great stories! And you Rika for posting that lovely picture to start my day!

Lisa) Oh, Oh My! Can you see that one little curl breaking free from the rest, a little ways down from his ear??? I have dibs on that! Actually, I have dibs on that whole section there from the sideburns to the chin and on back around to the entire neck and what disappears below the collar. And did I mention the ear? I want that too. LOL....okay, fine...but I've got dibs on the chest hair in this scene...cuz although you can't see it, it still very important (as I whip out my make-up brush)... (Dorine) Hey! Hey! This is *my little moment*, but I can share....sometimes ;) ;) Actually Lisa, for you, all the time as thanks for all your great stories! She only took one sideburn...I think the other belongs to you. Thanks Rika!!

I shouldn't read here first thing in the morning. How can I function properly while imagining the whole mascara-ing the chest scene? :-) I must put in a good word for the FP hair. I know it's a mess but that works for me! I love the contrast between that and the Darcy hair. Fave hair moment: In SLOW, the wife reached around to the back of his neck and gives his hair a good tug, making his head jolt back a bit. I felt like someone was reading my mind. And an honourable mention goes to: Another Country!! Practically a bouffant. Those were the days (sigh).

(Lisa) I have dibs on that whole section there from the sideburns to the chin and on back around to the entire neck... Okay Dorine, Lisa did take both sideburns... I shouldn't post right now (pre-caffeinated). I'll share his chest hairs...buy you'll have to bring your own mascara (I think dark brown for this role, not ebony). ;-)

(Pam)Also love the hair in Lost Empires. Bwaaaah. I don't have the DVD. Only lousy VHS tape. Lisa) I have dibs on that whole section there from the sideburns to the chin and on back around to the entire neck.. Sorry girls, body parts not allowed. (Not enough to go around;-)Clothing only...but yuo can pick the collars that touch the hair:-))) Looks like SLOW wins for hair.... (Pam) Also book is alluded to many times and the copies Tom and Meg are reading have picture of JE and CF on cover. Thought that was pretty neat. Obvious that director thought JE and CF the consumate Elizabeth and Darcy. Nora Ephron said in interview she's a big P&P fan. Notice the book cover had CF and JE on the cover...not the classic bound variety.

(MariaT)Ah well, I'm sure some of you understand... Yes, some of us understand all too well! By the way, there's a web site where you can find out when and where (on US TV stations) his movies are being broadcast. Eight of them are/were on the schedule for October. Here's the URL: http://www.tv-now.com/stars/firth.html (Dorine) Oh, Rika!!!! Bless You! Bless You! You hit it right on the money! Thank you for directing me there! I'd never noticed it before and you're right - the waves and curls are mesmerizing. (Pam)Also love the hair in Lost Empires. (Evelyn) Bwaaaah. I don't have the DVD. Only lousy VHS tape. I just got the DVD's as an early birthday present from a wonderful friend who understands my obsession. Am just waiting for a block of time (maybe this weekend) when I can watch. I'm really looking forward to it. I'm glad many of you have enjoyed the illustrations!

(Me) I just kept rewinding that and stopping on that frame to ogle the pattern those gorgeous waves made. *sigh* There's another shot like this in P&P when he has just helped Lizzy up into the carriage. She stands there for a moment to say something and there's a nice shot of the back of his head and those great curls and waves. Did anyone else notice in that shot how right before he lets go of her hand when she's in the carriage, he rubs his thumb on her fingers a little? A little real life communication, perhaps? ;)

(Evelyn) Nora Ephron said in interview she's a big P&P fan. Notice the book cover had CF and JE on the cover...not the classic bound variety. Thanks for explination. Thought it was something like that. Knew the jacket was not classic, but very good and interesting to see. Thanks again for picture Rika. So happy you got LE. You'll really enjoy it. It's one of my very favorites. So well done all around.

(Rika)but I thought it would be fun to make Linda faint away at her keyboard You really have my number, don't you? As I said, does one breath in heaven? Thank you Rika, you just succeeded in making my v. crazy day even crazier, but a whole lot more fun. (Lisa)I have dibs on that! Actually, I have dibs on that whole section there from the sideburns to the chin and on back around to the entire neck and what disappears below the collar. And did I mention the ear? I want that too. Wait, wait, I want some of that whole section there, too. Please? Even though I'll never give up my position as a LD (Latte Diva), I want to become a CHB (chest hair beautician)on the side. Rika, Dorine? Can't let Kathy have all the fun. Oh, those curls on the back of the neck. Oh my, my, my.

(Dorine) Did anyone else notice in that shot how right before he lets go of her hand when she's in the carriage, he rubs his thumb on her fingers a little? A little real life communication, perhaps? ;) I didn't notice the thumb rub, but I did notice the grip (almost white knuckled, like he didn't want to let her go)... Love LE, good story, good cast (I found the book in a used bookstore for a buck...it's the tie-in, so it has a picture of ODB on the back). I liked his accent (it's different than BJD, DQ). I'm not good with dialects, but he doesn't sound like his usual self. I like that he narrates throughout...that voice **sigh** And to see him all dressed up for 'the act' is great. Those skinny legs riding a bike! You just gotta love it!

(Linda) Wait, wait, I want some of that whole section there, too. Please? Even though I'll never give up my position as a LD (Latte Diva), I want to become a CHB (chest hair beautician)on the side. Rika, Dorine?Can't let Kathy have all the fun. Who, me? While I've been working diligently (and only now taking a lunch break), you gals have been having a field day dividing up CF's various hairs. So, the heck with pits and chest hairs. I've decided all I want is the treasure trail, should the subject ever come up. *wicked laugh* (Dorine) Did anyone else notice in that shot how right before he lets go of her hand when she's in the carriage, he rubs his thumb on her fingers a little? I've always loved that part! It's similar to the scene at the Lambton Inn, when he strokes her arm (wanting to comfort her). There's something to be said for repressed sexuality -- it makes every touch seem so much more intense.

(KathyF) I've decided all I want is the treasure trail, should the subject ever come up. *wicked laugh* Too funny!!! What does that leave me with?? Oooff, downy butt cheek hair I suppose...Well, beggars can't be choosers I suppose... There's something to be said for repressed sexuality -- it makes every touch seem so much more intense. You said a mouthful!! Argh, we are entering double entendre paradise...

(Tress) Love LE...I liked his accent (it's different than BJD, DQ). I'm not good with dialects, but he doesn't sound like his usual self. That's because Colin was doing (or trying to do) something of a Yorkshire accent, which sounds to me like very light Scots (eastern side).

(KathyF) I've decided all I want is the treasure trail, should the subject ever come up. *wicked laugh* So to speak. Now I'm imagining you on the set of PM the day of the first shower scene with a mascara brush in hand.... (Linda) I want to become a CHB (chest hair beautician)on the side. Rika, Dorine? Can't let Kathy have all the fun. I think maybe Kathy just gave up that position for an even better one (see above)! But to be serious for just a moment, it must have been weird for CF to be on the receiving end of this operation. Standing around with no shirt on (I know I just lost some of you to that image, but try to stay with me) while make-up is applied to his chest hair. Acting is such a bizarre profession. (Dorine) She stands there for a moment to say something and there's a nice shot of the back of his head and those great curls and waves. Dorine, you do have an eye for these things. Check this out, gang:

(Rika) Check this out, gang: I made it as big as I could (bigger than lifesize, but it was pretty pixellated). What is that? Looks like tape or something. it must have been weird for CF to be on the receiving end of this operation. Standing around with no shirt on (I know I just lost some of you to that image, but try to stay with me) while make-up is applied to his chest hair. And just imagine how weird it would be for someone to be performing my new (self-appointed) job. Weird for him, delightful for me!

(Dorine) Did anyone else notice in that shot how right before he lets go of her hand when she's in the carriage, he rubs his thumb on her fingers a little? I love that scene. Gives me, well never mind you know what it gives me. (Kathy)should the subject ever come up. *wicked laugh* Oh, I'm sure it comes up.

A friend just sent me this...Don't know if this is #165 or #166...Whatever....Boss take down the one you want. Cute new story, (to me)in a new bio of Sam Mendes. But it's about 3 DOR (old play). A story about Colin on the opening nightof 3 DOR. He had wanted to get some fresh air, stepped outside a stage door, but it was locked and he couldn't get back in.LOL. He had to reenter the building via the front (wearing his Walker outfit), and had to refuse to sign autographs, as curtain time was in 20 minutes. The book even mentioned that the author, Richard Greenburg, never saw the London production. Odd. The book spent more time on Greenburg's other play "Take Me Out" which he did come to London to see." Book has pic of Colin we've seen before. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Don't think he went out to sneak a ciggie...he didn't even smoke in the play.

(Evelyn) Don't think he went out to sneak a ciggie...he didn't even smoke in the play. Very cute story...has he quit smoking? Does anyone know?? I hope so (as we all want him to be around a long time (as I'm sure his kids do as well)).

while make-up is applied to his chest hair.... Y'all got this all backwards, IMO. I'd so much rather volunteer to gently wash it off. ;)

(Elizabeth)Y'all got this all backwards, IMO. I'd so much rather volunteer to gently wash it off. ;) ROTFLOL. Bingo!

(Elizabeth)Y'all got this all backwards, IMO. I'd so much rather volunteer to gently wash it off. ;) My mascara doesn't come off that easily...need baby oil...hmmmmm...the possibilities now seem limitless...

Hmmm... re: Taking the High Road.. There's a High Road? (confused expression) I was told to come here to be silly, so here I am. (Lisa) Oh, Oh My! Can you see that one little curl breaking free from the rest, a little ways down from his ear??? I have dibs on that! Actually, I have dibs on that whole section there from the sideburns to the chin and on back around to the entire neck and what disappears below the collar. Hmmm... trying to remember if anything is left over for me.. ok, ok... I'll take his bellybutton (lint or no), his toesies, and his fingers. =P Best Hair would be difficult for me to vote on since I haven't seen very many of his movies (no, I haven't just been possessed by the travel agent of guilt trips) However, I really like Jack's/Earnest's hair. And, (picking up a tomato for each fist) you'd better lay off of Paul. He's a doll, and I don't care if he is scruffy. You know as well as I do that every single one of you would hit that, even if it was dressed in overly baggy sweat pants that were repeatedly hoisted to keep them from falling down. =PPPP

(Jeanie) You know as well as I do that every single one of you would hit that, even if it was dressed in overly baggy sweat pants that were repeatedly hoisted to keep them from falling down. =PPPP ROFLOL!! You think she knows us or what? Me? I'm not gonna saying nothin' about Paul's hair, even if it did look like a radiated chia pet on MiracleGro ****ducking tomatoes******

(Barb S) I'm not gonna saying nothin' about Paul's hair, even if it did look like a radiated chia pet on MiracleGro ****ducking tomatoes****** No tomatoes here, but Paul did need a comb (Paul Ashworth is one of my favorite characters that ODB has done, so although I think his hair is a mess, it's an adorable mess)...my hairdresser has a name for that look...She calls it a JFL...You all will have to work it out, I could get in trouble if I explain further. ;-)

(Elizabeth S) Y'all got this all backwards, IMO. I'd so much rather volunteer to gently wash it off. ;) Elizabeth, I bow to your superior vision. (Tress) She calls it a JFL... Does the "L" stand for "Lazy"? The rest I've got.

(Tress) I would have remembered to do his pit hair as well (as it appears he has little/none) I noticed while reviewing the bath scene in P&P that his pit hair seemed to be died black, or perhaps something had been glued on. Difficult to tell which, as he never raised his arm. At any rate, definitely something v. dark in there. Paul did need a comb (Paul Ashworth is one of my favorite characters that ODB has done, so although I think his hair is a mess, it's an adorable mess) From someone who has been known to watch FP in its entirety four days out of five, I'll readily admit I find it sexy. It could stand some brushing (or combing) but all those curls look very grabbable (is that a word?). (Jeanie) There's a High Road? Not here, definitely not here!!

My computer, as many of you know, went bellyup in August and I had to basically have it completely overhauled. However, at the time of my mishap, I was playing "Sims" fairly regularly. Now, I need to put them back on the computer, but, as some of you were discussing in "Odds & Ends" it got me to thinking... I wonder if there's a Darcy Sim one can download.. maybe one that comes along with an Elizabeth and a "Pemberley" for their abode?

I really shouldn't come here first thing in the morning; I'll be distracted all day by those scrumptious Darcy pics Rika posted. Mmmmmm, you just want to dive right in, don't you? (Jeanie) And, (picking up a tomato for each fist) you'd better lay off of Paul. He's a doll, and I don't care if he is scruffy. I'll join you in the Defenders of Paul Brigade, Jeanie. Ohhh, when he's talking to the kid's mom at the parent/teacher conference thing, and he smiles at her, and the dimples come out, and OHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! She must have a will of iron 'cause I don't see how she doesn't fling herself at him from across the table! As for best hair, since P&P is in it's own hallowed category, and since I haven't been able to see his early stuff, I would have to say BJD. Especially since Rika was so good as to post so many yummy captures! (Tress) She calls it a JFL... Okay, all this talk has put me in somewhat naughty frame of mind, and, since no one's risen to the challenge, may I suggest "Just F****d Look"?????

(Jeanie): I wonder if there's a Darcy Sim one can download.. maybe one that comes along with an Elizabeth and a "Pemberley" for their abode? Ha - laughed at this !!! My kids play Sims all the time and I got them to create a character called Mr Darcy, who lived on his own, and a character with my maiden name, who lived on her own. Then, just had to wait for Mr Darcy to come to visit, she (I)would ask him to stay, and voila !!! It worked - but they deleted the characters much to my dismay.

(Moonstar) Okay, all this talk has put me in somewhat naughty frame of mind, and, since no one's risen to the challenge, may I suggest "Just F****d Look"????? Moon, if that isn't it...it should be!!!

(Moonstar) Okay, all this talk has put me in somewhat naughty frame of mind, and, since no one's risen to the challenge, may I suggest "Just F****d Look"????? That would be correct. My hairdresser cut all my hair off recently and now I have a Paul Ashworth special (so although it got my vote for his worst hair...). I asked her what was that??? She said 'it's the JFL special'. My DH likes it...wonder why. So, Moon (and Maria), you got it...I just didn't want to type it (though I laughed when she told me and now everytime I see FP, I think of it....)

Just a friendly reminder: when you quote moonstar don't refer to her as Moon. Moon Dreams is Moon. This can avoid any confusion. Thank you! :-)

Oh, dear. My pseudonym is causing problems again. I've been "moonstar" for so long on the 'net, I can't think what to change it to, and I can't use my real first name, because there's another Meredith here! (Annea) Then, just had to wait for Mr Darcy to come to visit, she (I)would ask him to stay, and voila !!! Oh, my! Now WHY haven't I thought of this? Might not be a good thing, though, since I already spend an ungodly amount of time on the computer as it is. However, for a (cyber)Darcy, I guess I can find the time...

(Moon) Just a friendly reminder: when you quote moonstar don't refer to her as Moon. Moon Dreams is Moon. This can avoid any confusion. Thank you! :-) Sorry Moon (and moonstar)!!! I should be more careful. I'm like moonstar, someone here already uses my real name (Terry) and I thought just changing the spelling would be just as confusing, so I use a nickname given to me as a kid. (Jeanie) I wonder if there's a Darcy Sim one can download.. maybe one that comes along with an Elizabeth and a "Pemberley" for their abode? I have the Sims game and have yet to play it...you've now inspired me. Think I'll load it tonight. I'll try doing a Bridget character (and give her a couple of neighbors (MD and DC) and see how things work out...) ;-)

(Tress)She calls it a JFL...You all will have to work it out, LOL I got it right away, but my sister firthettes were here before me. Look how good we're all getting at those tags. I, too, can watch FP over and over. But, I think Matthew from SLOW, has several JFL moments, in a different sort of way than Paul Ashworth. No talking tomatoes here, Rika will swoon, as I do about BJD pictures.

Re: Darcy and the Sims... Ask and you shall receive... (don't we wish) Sorry, but I don't know how to do links. http://www.lyranssimdesign.com/Darcy.htm http://www.simplyforfun.net/sims/PP.html

Hey, it seems that I do know how to do links... Curious.

I love you, Meg. (doing happy dance in jubilation) Gosh, they even have maids! I have all the extensions up to "Hot Date", but I don't have the most recent one. Perhaps Santa might send it to me. (Annea) Ha - laughed at this !!! My kids play Sims all the time and I got them to create a character called Mr Darcy, who lived on his own, and a character with my maiden name, who lived on her own. Then, just had to wait for Mr Darcy to come to visit, she (I)would ask him to stay, and voila !!! ROTLMAO! I can only assume you have the vibrating "love bed", then? Oh, how wonderful.. must reinstall, must reinstall!

Meg! You are awesome! I'm going to install tonight and get cracking (I have abandoned my Bridget idea...Mr. Darcy's moving into my neighborhood). I don't know how accurate the regency plumbing is, but I'm all for hot running water and indoor toilets! ;-)

Hey, Meg, where can you download the Darcy and Elizabeth skins? I didn't see it located at that website.. maybe I've overlooked it?

Looks like I'm going to have to get The Sims now??? Oh, good, I needed something to do in my spare time.... (Linda) But, I think Matthew from SLOW, has several JFL moments, in a different sort of way than Paul Ashworth. A verrrrrrrrry different way. Mmmmmmmm. No talking tomatoes here, Rika will swoon, as I do about BJD pictures. That's pretty much a given. It's probably just as well SLOW isn't available on DVD or I'd drive myself crazy.

Ok, I found em, sorry.. LOL.. they're here: http://members.lycos.co.uk/ronya/ and it appears the download comes with a complete family.. (dancing happily) really cool antique armoire which I'm definitely gonna have to download for Elizabeth: Antique Ceylon Armoire http://www.oph3lia.com/ she has all sorts of interesting pieces.. you just have to sort through the gothic things, unless that's what you like! (smiling) She also has an antique lovebed, along with stained glass windows and all sorts of little authentic looking pieces. Another one of my favorite places is :http://moonsims.asi.org/dh-sims-site/ His creations are so detailed and original. Ok, I'm getting carried away.. (breathing slowly to calm down)

I downloaded The Family so I could check out Darcy, but then realised that we don't have Sims loaded right now on the computer. Has anyone been able to see him? I assume that anyone obsessed enough in P&P to go to the trouble to create this world would be so because of ODB... Please tell me he looks at least a teeny bit CF-ish? My husband has promised to load the game back on tomorrow so I can play... (So patient with my little hobbys.)The house looks like loads of fun! Now how to get Lizzy into it... I'll have to have my kids give me some instructions I think!

A new question, re: Valmont. Someone already had noted that there's at least one scene missing on the DVD (when he goes to see de Tourvel and finds out she's back with her DH). But as I went through it I started to think that there's more missing than that. Does anybody have both the VHS and DVD versions who could compare? I may get to it eventually, but I don't have the official VHS tape - I just taped it off AMC, and they cut some of the butt-worship and perhaps other things I haven't noticed.

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I finally saw Playmaker last night. I hope to be back to normal soon, my eyes are only just settling back into my head. I'll have to do some searching of past posts for notes on Nessie hunting...I can see not spending a ton of time watching it again but there are definitely some parts to go back to. And I have not done a full review of roles for hair ratings, but I certainly think he rates highly in this one!

(Barb S) I'll have to do some searching of past posts for notes on Nessie hunting...I can see not spending a ton of time watching it again but there are definitely some parts to go back to. I just recently saw PM as well...Nessie makes an appearance for a nano-second. Jeanie pointed me in the right direction on topic 163. Try the slo-mo on your VCR (if only it were on DVD...never thought I would say that about PM, but hey, if they are going to release Begotten on DVD, PM should be out as well) Not his best film, but not his worst, I just finished L'dum yesterday...ohhhh gawd...that was painful. At least there was nekk'dness in PM, L'dum had none of that...did anyone ever bother to discuss it? I did a search and couldn't find anything.

ROFL, Oh, Tress, hold on to your bonnet and get ready for the time of your life: L'dum discussion:http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/126.954

(Tress) L'dum had none of that...did anyone ever bother to discuss it? There is one of the funniest discussions ever on this movie. I just don't know where to start you off. Agree, PM is not great, but he's wonderful and that's all that counts for me. My eyes haven't been in my head since 1995. It's a constant condition as I watch atleast one movie every day.

I've been reading the discussions of PM, both of them in fact (?!) For such a uniformly condemned movie, I think it's interesting it's been discussed twice! OK, maybe 1 1/2 times to be precise! I guess I need to get the hint that this was not cinema at its best and any coherent plot was accidental at best, but I'm thinking I need to watch it again just to try to map it out. It's times like this though that I really appreciate the dedication of those who have gone before and left us a record of their discussions...I hope they know their multiple PM viewings were not in vain! (And when I give up trying to map out the plot, I have very precise coordinates for mapping of a completely different type!)

(FanPam) - My eyes haven't been in my head since 1995. It's a constant condition as I watch at least one movie every day. I am soooo happy to hear this...You ladies are an inspiration..I knew I was hanging around the right crowd...

Funny how once you start coming here, everything picks up a certain slant. Just saw an interesting bit on ABCnews.com� Scientists Study If Gait Can Be Used to ID People � according to scientists, one day it may be possible to recognize anyone by the way they walk, or their gait. Oh really? ..if gaits are as unique as say voice patterns or fingerprints, advanced surveillance systems could identify and track people by the way they walk�. Got anyone in mind we could track by his distinctive gait? Forget �Colin-cam�, we could launch a surveillance satellite! When a person walks, body parts ... create a particular repeating pattern (they certainly do!) as they each move through space. The video camera captures these points of movements and sends them to a computer for analysis. The computer ... establishes mathematical relationships for each point to create the "signature" patterns it needs to recognize for each individual. You don�t say? Does the computer give extra points for flapping coat tails? � experimental setups use signatures captured from volunteers walking on treadmills� researchers report the machines make a correct match 90 percent to 95 percent of the time. They need a machine to track this? I would volunteer as long as the subject was right! But there are still difficulties in such systems....(among others...) such systems would have a very difficult time picking up distinct movement points of a person ... wearing bulky, concealing clothing such as a heavy coat... But the coat is PART of the signature...duh! �(scientists are exploring the use of radar...) ...the radar system isn't hindered by clothing or inclement weather � making it ideal for outdoor security and surveillance systems. Now THAT�S what I�m talking about...I like that �not hindered� by clothes part! .. Greneker and his team say that labs tests have shown their system can recognize a person by their gait 80 percent to 95 percent of the time. But the eventual goal is to improve the accuracy to the high-90 percentile range. Should we volunteer to help out? I bet as analytical as we can be, we can get their average up!

(Article)such systems would have a very difficult time picking up distinct movement points of a person ... wearing bulky, concealing clothing such as a heavy coat... Well then, maybe they need to be nekkid. Looks like we may need to revive our Stairmaster discussions.

Ooh - and I just saw some nice Stairmaster stuff (as well as evidence of short socks, if we ever want to bring that one back) in the early part of LE. Great article, Barb (but even greater commentary). I guess our problem is that there's only one gait we're interested in identifying. (BarbS, about PM) I guess I need to get the hint that this was not cinema at its best and any coherent plot was accidental at best, but I'm thinking I need to watch it again just to try to map it out. PM all but traumatized me the first time I saw it, but it has improved on repeat viewing, and if you're really in a hurry you can just FF to the shower scenes :-). Seriously, though, it's interesting to watch CF's portrayal of Ross once you know the whole plot. It's a multi-layered performance that I couldn't appreciate the first time because I didn't know about Michael (and also because of the noxious talent-obscuring fumes emanating from most of the other actors). I just FF any time he's not on screen, as I watched those parts once, and that was once more than they deserved to be watched.

(Jeanie) ROFL, Oh, Tress, hold on to your bonnet and get ready for the time of your life: L'dum discussion Thanks Jeanie...have been reading up on the L'dum discussion. There were so many things that bothered me about this movie (I'm not done reading the detailed analysis yet, so many of the things that bothered me were mentioned and some I haven't seen posted yet...but I'm sure I will). Couldn't really find a redeeming quality about any of the characters (although CF's 'drinking problem' was a bit amusing...but that was it!). MB is horrid. I can't believe anyone thought the script was funny...must now go drink some pints and let off a bit of steam! :-) (Barb S) Scientists Study If Gait Can Be Used to ID People LOL, Barb, the best thing about this article was your commentary...and we all know that you don't even have to see ODB (though the visual is part of the thrill), all you have to do is hear that shuffle to know it's HIM!

(Rika) PM all but traumatized me the first time I saw it Funny you should say that. DH got up this morning moanin' and groanin' that he slept literally not a wink. Among other things, he says his mind kept turning over that warped movie he watched the end of with me. He's sacked out on the floor with the dog now (8:15 PM) -- hmmm...think I'll go back and count glass blocks.

(Barb S) that warped movie he watched the end of with me. So I take it he missed the shower scenes? It's hard to drool when DH is present.

(Rika) - It's hard to drool when DH is present. Absolutely!! And compulsive rewinding is not looked upon favorably either, thus taking away all the multiple little joys of viewing!

(Tress)ohhhh gawd...that was painful. At least there was nekk'dness in PM, L'dum had none of that... But it did win the Pennis Award;-)

(Evelyn) But it did win the Pennis Award;-) And it did deserve it...yesterday when I posted, I had only read about half-way through the L'dum discussion (and now have read quite a bit more), I can only say that I am REALLY happy that this movie was made. If that piece of tripe had not been put out there for everyone to see, I would not have had the pleasure of reading those posts from the past. I LMAO at some of the things that were written. It started with Mari's quiz (v. funny) and just got sillier and sillier!! Hillarious! I didn't see my 'favorite worst scene' discussed though (maybe even farther down in the posts perhaps)...when Ben asks Carly if she will sleep with him if his wife sleeps with her husband. What kind of an idiot would say such a thing to someone who is lamenting that their marriage is falling apart? Funny??? No. I hated MB right then. What an a$$. And the whole 'set up' to get Fiona and Allen to the B&B...auggghhhhh! One more thing and I will shut up...no one mentioned what was down ODB's pants in the beginning of L'dum...I couldn't help but notice, so if anyone has an idea, let me know. After the first picnic (of the 12-13 they had), when Allen and Fiona are walking with the basket and he is upset because it is the anniversary of Prince Albert's death...what is in his pants?? Too narrow for a wallet...too 'pointy' for....I don't know...I am hoping it is a cell phone (please, no one review your tapes...not necessary, if you ever happen upon the film again (Cinemax at 3:00 a.m. and all your DVDs/VHS have disappeared and there is no other option) then try to figure it out...I'm stumped). ;-)

I may be wrong Tress, but I think it is a cell phone too because he always carries one. Watching PM now. He's about to go down on the rocks. I really can't stand JR, and try as hard as he does, nothing saves her or the other cast members. He of course is outstanding, albeit not difficult to achieve that status in this film.

(FanPam) Watching PM now. He's about to go down on the rocks. I really can't stand JR, and try as hard as he does, nothing saves her or the other cast members. He of course is outstanding, albeit not difficult to achieve that status in this film. I agree he isn't bad in PM...but I've just come off of L'dum, so PM looks really good to me now. PM has its moments (of silly dialogue, the rocks scene in particular is odd...and the whole wheelchair scene is a bit off-putting) JR is awful...don't know why she didn't get a part in MB's movie. But there is the added benefit of all those showers (and no visible cell phones!).

Not Sims, but real: From my old web site - A fan who made doll houses had made a lovely regency one: I have oodles of closeups of rooms.

Re -- His hair... Still trying to get my eyes up from the pants to the hair in Rika's first Mark D pic from the other day! If you like the bearded look, there is this one:

(Mary Murphy) If you like the bearded look, there is this one: Thanks for the pic Mary! He looks great (Nostromo right? I still haven't seen that one). Although I think the bearded look is a good one on him (and I actually liked his goatee in SIL), it should be some kind of crime to cover up those dimples...

closing...i hope (whimper)

one more try..

I was channel surfing today and discovered SLOW on Lifetime Movie Network. Alas, I'd missed 35 minutes. However, it's due to be on again at 5 a.m. (CST) tomorrow, which would be 6 a.m. EST. Runs for 1-3/4 hours (including commercials). Having now seen (most of) it, I must agree the SLOW hair is very yummy!

closing, closing, one two three...

Re Mary's bearded look picture, afraid the first thing that came to mind was "Colin does Commander Riker, Star Trek, Next Generation." That picture does come from Nostromo and I do like him in that one though.

Let me reiterate what I've posted many times. If you are not sure tags are closed, then go out of the topic and come back in, backing up one message. Tress closed the tag in her next message, but you all kept seeing italics because the "bad" unclosed message was still up on the monitor.

(Barb) Re Mary's bearded look picture, afraid the first thing that came to mind was "Colin does Commander Riker, Star Trek, Next Generation." ROTFL! (KathyF) Having now seen (most of) it, I must agree the SLOW hair is very yummy! Welcome to the club! ;-)

(KathyF)I must agree the SLOW hair is very yummy All of Matthew Field is very yummy. Rika are you drooling just thinking about him?

Matthew Field is one of my favorites. Love everything about him. He can bring me tomatoes anytime he likes.

I actually got up at 5 and watched all of SLOW again (how's that for commitment?). Not only is Matthew yummy, but I really loved the whole film! Now I'm wondering what, if anything, LMN left out. Sometimes the continuity seemed a little abrupt.

Now I'm wondering what, if anything, LMN left out. Sometimes the continuity seemed a little abrupt. Foolish antelope, that's just the dumb movie.

(Evelyn) Foolish antelope, that's just the dumb movie. LOL...hey! It's better than some (IMO). He looks REALLY good in SLOW (which makes up for the awful brown suits he had to wear in another movie...). ;-)

(Evelyn) Foolish antelope, that's just the dumb movie. I'd gladly be a foolish antelope, if it meant having CF and "ever-ready Eddie" to play with. :-)

Barb) Re Mary's bearded look picture, afraid the first thing that came to mind was "Colin does Commander Riker, Star Trek, Next Generation." Oh? LOL! "Meet me in my ready room, Number One.... warp 7, ENGAGE!" Really cute dollhouse, Murph.. thanks for posting it. That's something I wouldn't mind having, myself.

(Linda) All of Matthew Field is very yummy. Rika are you drooling just thinking about him? You know you don't need to ask. I know it'll never come out on DVD, but if it ever did..... sigh..... (Kathy) I'd gladly be a foolish antelope, if it meant having CF and "ever-ready Eddie" to play with. :-) Yup. Couldn't agree more. I just wish parts of the movie had made more sense. I wonder what it was like before it got edited?

(Barb) Re Mary's bearded look picture, afraid the first thing that came to mind was "Colin does Commander Riker, Star Trek, Next Generation." (Jeanie) Oh? LOL! "Meet me in my ready room, Number One.... warp 7, ENGAGE!" ROTF.....okay, this is killing me...I always thought that Commander Riker looked a bit like an older Potsy (from Happy Days), so now I'm stuck on that and I don't think ODB looks like Potsy at all...

LOL Tress... I see the Potsy thing but no way. See, the way I see it, Potsy was genetically incapable of having facial hair so any resemblance to #1 must be solely in the non-facial hair versions. The superficial resemblance of ODB to #1 is based purely on the facial hair (ala Nostromo) which by definition lets Potsy out. You may now safely disassociate the two. (You're welcome!) (Jeanie) ENGAGE! LOL I'll never hear that line the same way again.

Last weekend I watched LE for the first time. I had intended to savor the 7 episodes, but I wound up devouring them instead. And of course I had to share a photo or two of dear, adorable Richard. So for starters, look at this young flirt, resplendent in white tie: http://www.spring.net/~rika/richard1.jpg I'm sorry the image is somewhat grainy - since this is an older production, the picture quality isn't up to today's standards. More to follow later....

Oops - posted the link instead of the image:

Oh Rika, thank you. I too just recently watched LE. That picture and all, he looked so very young, makes me feel very "Summer of '42"-ish. (BTW, like the hands.)

(BarbS) The superficial resemblance of ODB to #1 is based purely on the facial hair (ala Nostromo) which by definition lets Potsy out. You may now safely disassociate the two. (You're welcome!) Thank you Barb! That was like a good slap in the face, the whole facial hair fantasy thing wasn't working for me there for a second (I kept picturing a letter jacket and rolled up jeans)...am now safe....whew! Free to ENGAGE. Thanks for the picture Rika. I loved LE (and I think it is now about time to rewatch it).

(BarbS)(BTW, like the hands.) Interesting to see them, not nude (?) The hands are my latest fixation, which I think started pre the hair on the collar discussion, when someone mentioned how he puts his hand to his mouth in several instances. I find myself feverishly chasing nuances around until a new one distracts and then I'm off again!!!

Young and Beautiful:

(MariaT) The hands are my latest fixation, which I think started pre the hair on the collar discussion, when someone mentioned how he puts his hand to his mouth in several instances. I find myself feverishly chasing nuances around until a new one distracts and then I'm off again!!! Maria, check out his hands in MLSF. When he smokes (though I'm sad he smokes, as I want him to live forever, I love watching him do it). The scenes in front of the fireplace are to die for...and as for hand across the mouth scenes, CoF. When Simon is talking to Nan at the cabin about 'the little chap'. He just touches his moustache (twice). The first time right before (maybe after) he pulls her slip strap down and the other just a few seconds later...v.v. good (but Simon is, as Nan says, a 'real sh***y article'). :-)

(Tress) Maria, check out his hands in MLSF. When he smokes (though I'm sad he smokes, as I want him to live forever, I love watching him do it). The scenes in front of the fireplace are to die for...and as for hand across the mouth scenes, CoF. When Simon is talking to Nan at the cabin about 'the little chap'. He just touches his moustache (twice). The first time right before (maybe after) he pulls her slip strap down and the other just a few seconds later...v.v. good (but Simon is, as Nan says, a 'real sh***y article'). :-) Funny you should mention MLSF..I was rewatching this morning and when Gamma eats too much of the sherry trifle and he puts his hand on her to help her up it is edible! Actually MLSF has many many great hand moments, very clean and large. It will be my handography film until another replaces it... I had to leave for work before the smoking scenes but I remember those whet my appetite last time as well, by the time I finished with those scenes I think he was up to a pack and a half!. And COF is being replayed alot lately on cable, I try to suspend my knowledge of how he turns out and just enjoy the moments like those you mentioned.

I hope it is OK to put up all these image files I have around here. Here is one of his hands done a few years ago:

Yikes!! Mary!! You should have warned me first!! I'm mellllltting.............Oh Noooooooooooooooooooooo...My iron composure (hah!) has picked up its skirts and fled...I'm a goner...No seriously, thanks!!!!

(Kathy) I'd gladly be a foolish antelope, if it meant having CF and "ever-ready Eddie" to play with. :-) I'm with you 100%. Am definitely ready for "ever-ready Eddie". Thanks Mary and Rika for the wonderful Pics. LE is one of my very favorites and I too watch it feeling Summer of 42ish. Could eat him up.

(Barb S) That picture and all, he looked so very young, makes me feel very "Summer of '42"-ish. Boy, can I relate. It was certainly easy to understand why Julie got involved with him. (BTW, like the hands.) That was one of the reasons I picked that shot - the white gloves. Here's another. This might qualify as an early rendition of the Blue Soup smile:

(MariaT) Just the thought of a happy trail made me happy...At the risk of becoming monofixated, his hands look quite hairless as well. Large, clean,expressive... I can see them stirring the blue soup and working other miracles as I daydream away.... I've almost mentioned the relatively hairless arms and hands before, but I thought I must be crazy to be noticing this sort of stuff. I noticed the same about his legs in LE. If he were a female impersonator, the shoulders would be a problem, but his legs would look great in pantyhose and high heels.

(HUGE SIGH)Thanks so much, Mary! Now, I want to see a collage of "Middle-Aged & Even More Beautiful"! He was a doll as a young man, but so help me he gets prettier all the time. His eyes are more soulful, his dimples are deeper, and he is, overall, yummier. I don't think that it's just my preference for him, either. Most actors do not physically improve with age.. (Robert Redford, Clint Eastwood, etc...) I guess "He Who Must" is one breathtaking example of an exception. Let's hear it for exceptional genetics!! (laughing) As far as the hand shot.. well, I've already sang my many praises for his delightful digits. Rika, I agree that the shot above looks like an early "Personally, I don't think there's enough blue food..." photo. Thanks for posting it, you DVD Diva!

LOL... hey, I like DVDiva even better! (laughing at thought of HWM in pantyhose & stilletos.

(Rika) I've almost mentioned the relatively hairless arms and hands before, but I thought I must be crazy to be noticing this sort of stuff. LOL....Rika, you were right to move the hair conversation over...I just get so excited sometimes I don't think of those types of things. ODB's general hairlessness was something I noticed quite a while ago (the first time I saw him in ATA, I think...the scene with Jessica Lange in the back of the rusty truck). (Rika) If he were a female impersonator, the shoulders would be a problem, but his legs would look great in pantyhose and high heels. ROTFL....would love to see that!!! In heels he would be WAAAAAY taller than even most men (he's about 6'1 isn't he?)....in a pair of strappy Manolo Blahnik's he could be 6'5 or 6'6. Quite impressive (I'm really trying hard not to envision a paler Ru'Paul). But you're right...great, long, hairless legs....only ONE problem...that walk (he walks like a man (thank goodness)). Don't think ODB would be real graceful in the heels, a bit bow-legged. Still, if he ever needs help painting his toenails....

(Rika)I've almost mentioned the relatively hairless arms and hands before, but I thought I must be crazy to be noticing this sort of stuff. I noticed the same about his legs in LE. If he were a female impersonator, the shoulders would be a problem, but his legs would look great in pantyhose and high heels. (Jeanie)(laughing at thought of HWM in pantyhose & stilletos LOL! Hey! A remake of Rocky Horror with ODB...I wish I could say that I find the thought of the pantyhose and stilettos unappealing, but, hey, I watched AZ over the weekend and had a terminal case of rewinditis for adorable gay Adrian, so evidently there is very little he can do to hinder his breathtaking fabulosity. (With the exception of Londinium perhaps, acording to readings of prior posts)

(MariaT)...so evidently there is very little he can do to hinder his breathtaking fabulosity. (With the exception of Londinium perhaps, acording to readings of prior posts) Even L'dum cannot ruin his breathtaking fabulosity, Maria...

Meant to say there is very little he can do to hinder my admiration for etc. etc...Must must must stop getting so excited that I want to blurt...Sorry

(Tress)Don't think ODB would be real graceful in the heels, Could you imagine that walk of his in heels? LOL. ... Still, if he ever needs help painting his toenails ...Just leave that to the CHB's. On the hands talk, my favorite hand scene is P&P when Mr. Darcy hands Elizabeth into the carriage after she visits Pemberley. Just seeing those two hand touching makes me weak. He does have such lovely hands, arms, legs, hair, dimples...shall I go on? Thank you Mary, and Rika for the pictures.

Rika, thanks for that great picture...you're right, it does look a bit like an early blue soup grin.... (MariaT) Meant to say there is very little he can do to hinder my admiration for etc. etc...Must must must stop getting so excited that I want to blurt...Sorry What's to be sorry about??? I feel the same way...there is very little he can do to hinder my admiration as well....I mean, if I heard he had a cameo in the worst film ever made, I would sit through it just to see him. He has made two or three films that I haven't particularly liked, but it still doesn't lessen my admiration of his fine eyes (that, and I think he is a fairly good actor, so even when he is in a stinker, he is usually the best thing in it). I may question his judgement on some of his projects, but I won't ever like him less on account of it (if that makes any sense at all). :-) (lindak) Could you imagine that walk of his in heels? LOL. I keep imagining him taking the stairs (as he does 2 or 3 at a time), or running down the stairs (like him running in MLSF on the way to the lake). He would definitely need to learn to be more dainty or he would fall on his behind!! ;-)

(Rika) I've almost mentioned the relatively hairless arms and hands before, but I thought I must be crazy to be noticing this sort of stuff. I noticed the same about his legs in LE. If he were a female impersonator, the shoulders would be a problem, but his legs would look great in pantyhose and high heels. (MariaT) I wish I could say that I find the thought of the pantyhose and stilettos unappealing, but, hey, I watched AZ over the weekend and had a terminal case of rewinditis for adorable gay Adrian, so evidently there is very little he can do to hinder his breathtaking fabulosity. I've found the hands/hairlessness/high heels discussion today most entertaining! (Tress) I keep imagining him taking the stairs (as he does 2 or 3 at a time), or running down the stairs (like him running in MLSF on the way to the lake). The idea of him running along in that red and white-striped bathing suit, in heels -- now there's a picture! He'd have to lose the towel, though.

(Jeanie) hey, I like DVDiva even better! I like it! Would look very good on my business card, I think. (KathyF) The idea of him running along in that red and white-striped bathing suit, in heels -- now there's a picture! He'd have to lose the towel, though. I have a better idea - lose the suit, keep the towel. I don't mind if it's just the heels (though they might get stuck between the planks on the dock, so maybe this is a safety issue....) (Tress) and I think he is a fairly good actor I'd go quite a bit further than that - I think he's an exceptionally talented actor. Most of his recent projects just haven't given him a showcase for those talents. (Linda) Just seeing those two hand touching makes me weak. Quick - somebody catch Linda if she falls: When the "hands" discussion started, I grabbed this capture because I knew we'd come around to this point sooner or later!

Sorry to follow up my own post, but I just saw the Halloween picture on the Drool front page. Love it, Karen!!!!

GOOD GAWD!!!!!! I was expecting to see our October pinup gone any day now, but sheesh Karen, can't you email us a warning when something like that goes up? I nearly lost it!

Talk about a bad hair day!

(Rika) When the "hands" discussion started, I grabbed this capture because I knew we'd come around to this point sooner or later! You smart girl! Thanks for the picture! ******sigh********

Shame that pic can't be a looped moving one.....as I mentioned before, I like when he rubs her fingers with his thumb just before letting go. (Rika) I'd go quite a bit further than that - I think he's an exceptionally talented actor. Most of his recent projects just haven't given him a showcase for those talents. I heartily second that!

(Dorine)as I mentioned before, I like when he rubs her fingers with his thumb just before letting go. I'll take it just as it is...thank you Rika. Got one at the Lambton Inn?When he caresses her whole arm???

(Rika)Quick - somebody catch Linda if she falls: Help, I've fallen into my keyboard, and I can't get up. Oh, Rika, Rika, Rika now I know for sure that subliminal messages work. I'm so glad I saw that capture this morning, and not last night. It just made my day. My absolute favorite, favorite, scene in any movie. I can't explain it, just drives me wild everytime. Thank you, Rika (Dorine)Shame that pic can't be a looped moving one Hey, sounds like a job for the DVDiva. (Rika)I have a better idea - lose the suit, keep the towel. I have an even better idea...:-)) Thank you, Karen, for our dreamy Richard Herncastle. Lovely to have him here all decked out for Halloween.

(Rika) I'd go quite a bit further than that - I think he's an exceptionally talented actor. Most of his recent projects just haven't given him a showcase for those talents. (Dorine)I heartily second that! Yes! And this fact should not be obscured by recent and past discussion re walking, hands, butt, left/right tendencies, hair (or lack of)(or how it rests on collars) (or little runaway curls by delectable ears), dimples, cleft, mascara possibilities and happy trails... the fact is without his considerable talent he would not be able to hold the interest of so many of us. Watching him at his work is beyond a guilty pleasure, it is watching someone at the top of their form, attaining an aesthetic that can literally touch you at your core. Not to be a hyperbolist (my DH always calls me such), but it is very much like a chef that knows exactly what to do with his ingredients to astonish people or a winemaker that captures the very essence of the soil, the year that the grapes grew in and the region itself, and crafts it into a wine that transports the recipient...Well, I've babbled enough...

MariaT� Wow. Couldn't have said it better.

Thanks, Rika, for the great screen capture! Karen, a most apropos choice for Halloween -- I laughed with glee! (MariaT) Watching him at his work is beyond a guilty pleasure, it is watching someone at the top of their form, attaining an aesthetic that can literally touch you at your core. You have captured the essence of why we are here, IMO. He's definitely not just another pretty face. If only he could get a part that would awaken the majority of the moviegoing public to this fact!

(Rika) I'd go quite a bit further than that - I think he's an exceptionally talented actor. Most of his recent projects just haven't given him a showcase for those talents. (Dorine) I heartily second that! I was being a bit facetious when I said he was a fairly good actor...I do believe he is exceptionally talented, and, there is no other actor that I have ever taken vacation days for...I take vacation whenever there is a CF movie opening so that I can see the first showing on the first day. It's a bit of a joke at work (because if I take any day off now, they all ask me what movie has opened). I have already tentatively got January 31st off for LC. When Valmont came out (in 89?), I talked the projectionist into letting me and a friend see it with the reviewers (on the Wednesday prior to release)...so, I do think he is more than a fairly good actor. I love seeing him in dramas (am beside myself with joy at the GWAPE potential), but he is also very good at comedy (12 more days until TIOBE is out on DVD/VHS). Not many actors do both really well. BTW, thanks for the pictures (The DVDiva, Rika for the yummy hand shot (look at those veins on the back of his hand...mmmmm) and Karen for Richard in his funny Gunga Din costume).

(Maria) LOL! Hey! A remake of Rocky Horror with ODB... OOOOOO how funny would that be. TRICK OR TREAT. Sure would be easy to see which way the jewels are set in that get up. Remember its an alien. Getting ready to get slapped. Could see him doing it and being very very good. Doesn't need a great singing voice for it, just a great body and that he's got. Thanks for great pics Rika. How about one of him in his suit and hat. Love that look on him. (Tress) there is very little he can do to hinder my admiration as well....I mean, if I heard he had a cameo in the worst film ever made, I would sit through it just to see him. You are not alone here. I know I feel the very same. (MariaT) Watching him at his work is beyond a guilty pleasure, it is watching someone at the top of their form, attaining an aesthetic that can literally touch you at your core. (KathyF) You have captured the essence of why we are here, IMO. He's definitely not just another pretty face. If only he could get a part that would awaken the majority of the moviegoing public to this fact! There are very very few who possess Colin's incredible acting talent. To paraphrase SueB she wanted him for Darcy because he was one of the few actors she knew who could do ANY acting roll in ANY time period, and do it so well. IMO there is none better and he is the consumate actor to me in any roll. I adore him.

It must be the Halloween moon, looks like a Drooly day... (Evelyn) Got one at the Lambton Inn?When he caresses her whole arm??? Are you kidding? That might count as irresponsible posting...if just the hands can work us up into such a frenzy, what might the arm caress do? I shudder to think of it (OK, the shudder might be something else but nevermind....) (Maria) Not to be a hyperbolist (my DH always calls me such) (The first time I read this, I thought "Why does her DH call her a herbologist? I'm slow but I get there.) Maria, your eloquence astounds me. I am very glad you returned us to the high road, it's important once in a while to focus on his excellence at his craft, his other allurements can be so distracting. Besides, I was getting a little concerned at the discussions of ODB in heals. And since he does not have a publicist, I volunteer you! (Tress) ...there is no other actor that I have ever taken vacation days for Now THAT is a true measure of devotion, maybe we can get them to consider it a Mental Health day!

(BarbS)I am very glad you returned us to the high road, it's important once in a while to focus on his excellence at his craft, his other allurements can be so distracting. It's all about balance, the light and the dark, the yin and the yang, the sun and the moon, the hand on the arm, huh? To hell with the high road! That was before lunch, (now scrolling back up to take delight in Rika's fine hand post..)It's all interconnected, the incredible acting which leads one to admire one, which leads one to take note of one's attributes, which leads one to not be able to get enough of one, which leads one back to watching everything one has ever done because of the incredible acting (on his part anyway...)

Yeah, what you said Maria, I agree. ODB is the best.

(Barb S) Now THAT is a true measure of devotion, maybe we can get them to consider it a Mental Health day! LOL...I'd need a Mental Health Day every day if that were the case. Actually it is a Mental Health Day for my co-workers (and a 'CF Mini-Break' for me). See, they know if I don't get to see the new CF movie the day it opens (first show), that I will drive them all mad (like a trapped animal, I may be forced to chew off my own leg to get out). I tell them I belong to the 'Church of Colin' and we have special days of observance (I can't be turned down for religious holidays)...I now have a fellow devotee at work as well (she is asking for Jan 31st off to go with me this time round...it will be the first time that two of us will be taking the day off). ;-)

(Tress) I now have a fellow devotee at work as well You might now be able to register as a bona fide nonprofit too. Think of the advantages! ;-)

(Maria) To hell with the high road! And, I ask once again... "what high road?" (looking around curiously) Ok, ok... I've finished proof-reading part four of Lisa's Halloween story, and I couldn't help but take out one of her words and put in "engaged".. (giggling) I wonder if she'll keep it? Make it so! (doing my best Picard voice)

(Jeanie) And, I ask once again... "what high road?" (looking around curiously) Oh darn...did that map get misplaced again??? Has anyone seen it today (or yesterday for that matter)? ;-) I just got a copy of the script for "Another Country"...has anyone else read it? I must say I'm a bit sad...it's such a good script, and to know that ODB played Bennett and there's no way to see it! The script is different than the film (obviously)....I'll have to finish it and then watch AC again to see what got changed/moved around.

You mean the play, right? Yes, it differed from the film. In fact, Evelyn saw it in London just last year, where it got rave reviews again.

Maria, well said (both when you were on the high road and when you weren't! (Dorine) Shame that pic can't be a looped moving one I'm pretty sure the JPEG format doesn't support animation, or I'd give it a try. There have been so many times when I wanted to post a little "action loop" of a few images. (Evelyn) Got one at the Lambton Inn?When he caresses her whole arm??? I'll see what I can do about that when I get home from work, but in the meantime here's one I love: His hands are so neatly folded on his lap, but look at the wicked glint in his eye. He's just made the "your figures appear to the best advantage while walking" remark, so he's flirting outrageously (at least, by Fitzwilliam Darcy standards, he is). That's why I love the hands - his body language is so prim and proper and sedate, as if to say, "Who, ME, a flirt? NEVAH!"

(Karen) You mean the play, right? Yes, it differed from the film. In fact, Evelyn saw it in London just last year, where it got rave reviews again. Sorry...should have been a bit clearer. Yes, the play. I really like it so far (am only 30 pages into it though). Lucky Evelyn! To have seen it live (even w/o ODB, I'd like to see it done on stage). Thank you again DVDiva! I love that whole scene. How uncomfortable he becomes when Elizabeth says "a man without fault!". He played that scene so well (as did JE and Duckface). The verbal sparring was fantastic (and you could tell at that moment that he really liked her (even if he didn't fully realize it yet)). Ooooohhhhh....good stuff! Thankyouthankyouthankyou....

(Rika) His hands are so neatly folded on his lap, but look at the wicked glint in his eye Every time I watch that scene, I think it's a good thing he had a book in his lap. ;-) (Mary) Right now I couldn�t get up and walk if... LOL!! Very clever!

Ok, ok... I've finished proof-reading part four of Lisa's Halloween story, and I couldn't help but take out one of her words and put in "engaged".. (giggling) I wonder if she'll keep it? BWAGHHH Jeanie...you know what happened? After I sent you part four I started reworking that "car" part, (I always do these kind of things) so I went through all you did until then and had to stop with yours until the last few paragraphs, as very little of it fit with what I changed. But, I did use everything you changed up to that point luv! It all read much much better...thank you again. But you know I don't remember that specific word. I'm a little frazzled right now though. (insert over-tired bug-eyed winkie)

Mary, that was hilarious. Really, too many funny parts. I especially like the eyesbrows running. it fits in nicely with the recent discussion about jobs as chest hair tinters. And I agree, the hands folded in the lap are definitely concealing something that is not appropriate for younger P&P viewers.

Thanks as usual, Rika! *Love* that wicked glint. ;-) Can never decide which is my favorite scene...that one or the dance at the Ball. Everytime I watch one of them, I think I like that one best, then I switch. ;-) ROTF Murph! Is there more somewhere else?

Thank you, Mary. Loved that motivation. Rika, you've done it again. From work no less. You truly are the DVDiva. (Jeanie) And, I ask once again... "what high road?" (looking around curiously) High road? Nah, aint seen no hide nor hare of a high road:-)

Love the way he played that scene Rika. He got more and more stiff as it went on. You could see that Darcy was getting mad but he couldn't let anyone else in the room know that Lizzie was getting under his skin. I loved the way his mouth got tighter and tighter and his chin came up.

(Lucie) He got more and more stiff as it went on. (evil giggle) No, I'm not gonna say it. Since it looks like this is morphing into Darcy Drool, I'll put the Lambton Inn DVD capture that Evelyn requested over on that topic.

Just caught up on all the "hairiness" postings - must say that that is always ssomething that has disappointed me a bit. I do like some body hair - legs, arms, pits, a sprinkling on the chest (draw the line at back and butt although unfortunately me DH has a liitle of both - am trying to find out how to wax without him knowing !!) ODB has quite a noticeable beard shadow, so it is surprising that he has not more body hair. Even my DH has noticed "at least I have hair on my arms". He takes every opportunity say something disparaging - definitely the green eyed monster !! although he will quite happily watch CF movies with me.

Okay am I going to start Chaos by posting under this topic? We will see. I wanted to point out something that is a little disturbing. If you look at the pic that Keren has up of CF from LE and you scroll down enough so that you cover the turban, you can have a startling deja vu. Of course, you'd have to have seen Doby Gillis to understand what I'm saying. And, no I'm not of that era, but Fer Gawd's Sake I saw that pic and his face looks just like the girl with the funny voice and (I think) the glasses. Didn't she have a weird name? Oh, this may be time for a goggle moment..........

Ok went to google instead of goggle and found out that actress isn't on the net too much. Anyway, this was the best I could do and it is a little scary. Compare the faces...no, not Dwayne Hickman's, the other one.

Darcy Flirt? Yeah, right! Oh baby, oh baby! And my all time favorite... Yes, I know, we should have put this over in the darcydrool, but I'm not the one who started it! (sticking tongue out at DVDiva)

Yes, Jeanie, but those were very specifically HAND photos to support the HANDS discussion. Where are the HANDS In yours, huh? Huh???????

(Rika) Yes, Jeanie, but those were very specifically HAND photos to support the HANDS discussion. Where are the HANDS In yours, huh? Huh??????? OOOOhhhhhhh....don't care where the hands are right now. MMMmmmmmm...darcy pictures good......(besides, I have an idea where the hands may be, but I'm not tellin!) ;-)

Seems to me we also had a hair topic going. These are monstrous fine in support of that. Darcy hair has of course been decreed to be in a class by itself but nonetheless worthy of study. And there is also the hint of five o'clock shadow in the last one, I believe they TOTALLY support one of the topics at hand! (Thanks Jeanie!!!!) And perhaps we should begin a discussion of his bottom lip which I have just noticed in these pictures looks extremely kissable!

Neenerneeenerneeeener! (in DVDiva's general direction) (Barb) I believe they TOTALLY support one of the topics at hand! Ack, a PUN! (Tress)OOOOhhhhhhh....don't care where the hands are right now. MMMmmmmmm...darcy pictures good......(besides, I have an idea where the hands may be, but I'm not tellin!) ;-) (laughing) OHhhhhh, it's so nice to be appreciated! and yes, Barb, you're right... he has such a sweet & tender lower lip.. almost pouty like a little boy's... yeah... I think I'm gonna go put ice cubes in my undies, now. See ya later!!

(Lisa) his face looks just like the girl with the funny voice and (I think) the glasses. Didn't she have a weird name? Zelda Gilroy (and yes, it does!)

(Lisa) his face looks just like the girl with the funny voice and (I think) the glasses. Didn't she have a weird name? (KathyF) Zelda Gilroy (and yes, it does!) Never saw Doby Gillis...but there is a resemblence to (a slimmer version of) Mimi on the Drew Carey Show (IMO)...

(Barb S) Seems to me we also had a hair topic going. These are monstrous fine in support of that. Well, oooookay - long as we can find SOME connection!!!! (Jeanie)Neenerneeenerneeeener! (in DVDiva's general direction) You just wait till next weekend, missy! You'll get yours.

Hey, Boss.. my typical hotmail email account is not working right now, so, I'm wanting to make a donation. My payment will go to you if I use the paypal logo on the topic page, right? It'll come from "secret_o_life@hotmail.com", so don't let the different name fool you.

Send it to me at rosie45@hotmail.com

Thanks for pics Rika and Jeanie. Great stuff Murph. So clever. Would like to read more if you tell me where it is.

Ohhhhhhhh, Jeanie, that first picture is a killer. While the "look" will always be the "look", I love the expression on his face. Thank you. (Tress)don't care where the hands are right now I'm with you, Tress. I'm too busy drooling to care. OK, Ok, I'm moving over to Darcydrool.

I've had a question emailed to me and can't answer it. The writer wants to know when Colin learned to ride. I don't recall reading anything about this anywhere, but perhaps others have better memories (no doubt) than I. The first role that required Colin to ride is Valmont (1989) and I have seen behind-the-scenes footage of Colin rehearsing a scene on a horse.

(Karen) The first role that required Colin to ride is Valmont Well, unless you count the merry-go-round ponies in LE. :-) I couldn't decide if this belonged on O&E or here, but I finally decided to put it here because of the DQ connection: DH and I saw "Man of La Mancha" this afternoon. It's in D.C. for a pre-Broadway tune-up (it opens in NY later this month). We thoroughly enjoyed it. Brian Stokes Mitchell was terrific as Quixote - wonderful stage presence, and a rich, full, gorgeous voice (speaking and singing). Ernie Sabella played Sancho and was just right in the role. The reason I mention it, though, is because there's a "one degree of separation" factor: MEM played Aldonza/Dulcinea. I thought she was marvelous. I hadn't realized what a difficult role that is to sing. But at one point I found myself thinking, gee, I'm in the same building with someone who has kissed CF. Gaaaaaah - talk about pathetic! There were two more CF connections: First, of course, the storyline (I will probably have to watch DQ tonight), and second, the bald spot on the top of Ernie Sabella's head, which was constantly on view from our seats on the mezzanine. (Though calling his a "spot" is like calling Lake Superior a pond. We have much to be thankful for!)

Glad you enjoyed play Rika. You're not pathetic. I would have thought the same thing about MEM. I think about that when I think about Dorine, Amy, Evelyn, Karen and those fortunate ladies who have met him. We communicate with people who have physically met him. If you're pathetic than so am I.

Hmmm... ok, there's a topic which is being touched on a bit in "New Colin Stuff" thread. So, I'll pose it to everyone here: "If you were on the street and saw CF, how would you react/respond?" I already know what I'd do... but, I want to see what everyone else says before I reveal my rather strange and twisted fantasy. (laughing)

I'd probably freeze like a deer in the headlights and stare. I don't think I'd approach him or try to speak to him, partly because of the deer-in-the-headlights thing, but mainly because in your example he's just out on the street minding his own business and I wouldn't think it appropriate to bother him.

Jeannie...suppose it depends on if he has wife and kids in tow. If he was with them, I would probably just walk on by (and regret it for the rest of my life), but I would feel to awkward to approach him during family time... If ODB was with friends or by himself....I'd have to go up to him to say hello and just hope that I didn't (1) pass out (2) pee myself (3) throw up or (4) make such a scene that security had to be called. The perfect scenerio would be to see him at a premiere or event (when he could see me coming and be prepared). Then I would, once again, hope that (1)-(4) above did not occur.

Oh Gosh Jeannie, in answer to your question, I've got a confession. I'm a C.S. I grew up in Southern California and spent several years living in LA/Westwood. It's just the nature of living there to run into famous people every once in a while in a department store or supermarket. I never approach anyone. I watch and then get a little sad when they go off their own way and realize I didn't take the initiative to get an autograph or say something. I've been in an elevator with Jimmy Stewart, sat right behind Lillian Gish in an audience, walked by the front garden of Burt Reynolds house while he was in the driveway, stood by while Lizza and Vincent Minella signed autographs all around me, and waited next to Tony Bennet before boarding a plane. Mind you none of these have the appeal of CF, but they are famous. I never said "Boo" or anything else to any of them. Do you want to know the worst thing? Years ago, my girlfriend and I were out on the town one night and in comes Beau Bridges. He looked good back then. He actually came over during the evening and sat down at our table and I couldn't hardly say a word. (What a wasted opportunity. Maybe he would have introduced me to Jeff!) After a few minutes he got up and left...I didn't blame him! Anways, to answer your question, what would I do? I'm smarter these days. I'd go up and ask him if he could wait just a sec and I'd go get Dorine! (insert wise woman winkie)

(Tress) The perfect scenerio would be to see him at a premiere or event (when he could see me coming and be prepared). Then I would, once again, hope that (1)-(4) above did not occur. Yes, at a public event I'd view it differently from if he were just walking down the street. I'd probably still just do "deer in the headlights", but in my head I'd be screaming, "SAY HELLO!" And then, like Lisa said, I'd go get Dorine!

(Tress) I'd have to go up to him to say hello and just hope that I didn't (1) pass out (2) pee myself (3) throw up or (4) make such a scene that security had to be called. I admitted on 165, I'd turn bright red, then (2), then possibly (3). If I actually had the nerve to speak, I'm sure whatever emerged from my mouth would sound totally idiotic. I've actually thought about this a number of times and can't even say for sure which of his films I'd admit to loving. (Lisa) I never approach anyone. I watch and then get a little sad when they go off their own way and realize I didn't take the initiative to get an autograph or say something. I've had close encounters with celebrities in NYC and here in Houston, and I've yet to say anything to any of them. Like you, I wished later I'd acknowledged them in some way, instead of pretending not to recognize them. Not that any of them made me want to gush, but I wish I'd said, "I admire your work." CF is a whole different subject, however. Don't know how I'd really react, but I'm sure I'd do something and I'm fairly sure I'd embarass myself somehow.

(KathyF)CF is a whole different subject, however. Don't know how I'd really react, but I'm sure I'd do something and I'm fairly sure I'd embarass myself somehow. All of the above. Just to let you know, (some of you already know)I didn't go to the TIOBE premiere because I knew I would see him. I got so worked up just thinking about it, that I decided against it. DH was willing to take me, too. Now I could kick myself. I keep thinking, suppose I'd gone and had hooked up with Dorine...Oh, well coulda, woulda, shoulda...

(KathyF) I admitted on 165, I'd turn bright red, then (2), then possibly (3). If I actually had the nerve to speak, I'm sure whatever emerged from my mouth would sound totally idiotic. I've actually thought about this a number of times and can't even say for sure which of his films I'd admit to loving. Kathy, if we ever happen to be in a situation together (at a premiere or event), I'll bring the Depends and you can bring the smelling salts... (linkak) I didn't go to the TIOBE premiere because I knew I would see him. I got so worked up just thinking about it, that I decided against it. DH was willing to take me, too. Now I could kick myself. Linda, you sound like me! I get nervous just thinking about such things (prior to their actual occurrence), but when I actually find myself in the situation, I usually do better...not so much as grace under pressure as a survival instinct, I think! ;-) I think my DH would make me go...he is a bit odd, he doesn't understand the obession, but if he knows I want something, he will make sure it happens (he is a good guy)...He would probably push me in front of ODB to get me to talk to him, if he had to...

(Tress) I think my DH would make me go...(he is a good guy)... LOL Tress, not sure mine would MAKE me go, I just sure wouldn't want him to be anywhere close at the exact moment. I am absolutely sure he would say something totally embarassing. "Do you know, it's all your fault, she makes me whisper in her ear "Dearest,loveliest Barbara..." or "Do realize how tired one gets of wearing boots all the time?" or some such.

(BarbS) LOL Tress, not sure mine would MAKE me go, I just sure wouldn't want him to be anywhere close at the exact moment. I am absolutely sure he would say something totally embarassing. ROTFL...oh my! I had not thought of this! I am certain the DH would say something totally embarassing...best to leave him at home and fend for myself. He can pay for the tickets and hotel rooms! ;-)

Let's see, what would I do. I have given this alot of thought. I initially felt I would lose consciousness or make a fool of myself in some other equally undignified manner. However, I have changed my opinion of myself and have decided I would not waste probably one of the most memoriable moments of my life by lousing it up. I would save that for after it was all over and he was out of sight and ear shot. You know, you make it through the emergency with assuredness and then when its all over you react. (1) On the street as a private person, with or without family, I would engage eye contact, walking slowly of course to take in all of him, nod and possibly mumble a greeting as if we were acquainted and walk on by. (2) At premiere, hoping I am in a que so I get to look at him for some time, attempt to get autograph comment on his brilliancy, without over emoting, dress appropriately for occassion and then find Dorine and Amy and go to the party with them!!! Would let Dorine sit on my shoulders if no flower pot was available. What could be better than that. Then hopefully make it home before involuntary reflexes set in and I become incoherent for the next 3 to 4 days. If only the opportunity would arise........

(Pam) Then hopefully make it home before involuntary reflexes set in and I become incoherent for the next 3 to 4 days. Do you actually think it would only be for 3 or 4 days?! I think you underestimate the level of your devotion. ;-)

If the setting is appropriate, I would just ask for an autograph & ask him what he's working on (then try to look like I don't already know what his current project is!) and hopefully not faint dead away when he looks at me or speaks to me. Just the thought of him saying my name gets me all a-flutter, LOL! Okay, Jeanie, tell us what your fantasy is; I'm dying to know...

Since it is so unlikely to happen, this totally does not matter, but given half a chance, I would throw myself at him, touch his hair (being careful not to dislodge any!) and then try to figure out what he carries in his front pocket. I would then introduce myself as Jeanie from Drool (insert evil grin winkee) and tell him how much I admire his ...ummm... work. Since the above would probably get me arrested though, I guess I would settle more for something along the lines of what Pam wrote. *****sigh****

My reaction to seeing him on the street would be (I hope)restrained and respectful, although given the fact that I start and gasp just when flipping through channels and find him on (o.k., truth be known, I even gasp when I put a dvd or movie of his on)his effect on me would very likely go unnoticed but I would not bother him. If in an appropriate setting (like another Donmar evening!), and with the assistance of wine courage, I would hope to have him sign my playbill but I would ask for my full name to be signed as my last name is the same as in the title of a very popular Italian movie from last year and maybe I would get a few extra words as we discuss this fact and Italy in general and I would just be playing it so cool...Thats right, composed and impassive, admiring perhaps but from a distance...HoHoHo...No, I would be up there with the best of you, trying not to ralph, either hiding or fighting the urge to run away with hairpins flying...

(Moonstar) , I would just ask for an autograph & ask him what he's working on (then try to look like I don't already know what his current project is!) and hopefully not faint dead away when he looks at me or speaks to me. ROTF! That was me! ;-) LOL! Sounds like a good plan, Barb!

(moonstar) Just the thought of him saying my name gets me all a-flutter, LOL! There is a movie in which he says my name several times...I rewind and rewind...even though the person he is speaking of (and to) is a man, I don't care. It'll probably be the only time I hear him say it. Makes me melt!! And yeah, Jeanie, what moonstar said! What's your CF fantasy encounter like??? (BarbS) I would then introduce myself as Jeanie from Drool (insert evil grin winkee) and tell him how much I admire his ...ummm... work. ROTFL...thanks for the good laugh Barb. Good way to start my morning! (Dorine) ROTF! That was me! ;-) You are still my hero! Now, whenever I see a potted anything (and Portland has a lot of potted shrubbery), I wonder if it's climbable and what the view would be like...

, but if he knows I want something, he will make sure it happens (he is a good guy)...He would probably push me in front of ODB to get me to talk to him, if he had to... LOL. There have been cases where the wife freezes and DH has to ask for the autograph. Another time, someone's son ran down Earlham St. in London to get an autograph for his mum.Lots of DHs accompanied the wives to the Donmar. One struck up a conversation with Colin about Vancouver.

(Evelyn) LOL. There have been cases where the wife freezes and DH has to ask for the autograph. This could very well happen to me if I ever get close enough...my DH is not very shy, and since he doesn't have the same reverence for ODB as I do, I have no doubt that he would start to talk to him about any number of things that would embarass me. If my DH even knew that ODB had lived in the Vancouver area, I am sure this would be a topic to cover...the DH spends many winter days skiing in the area (and we go up there together in the summers to camp). I now think (after Barb helped me see the light) that maybe I should leave him at home if the chance ever arises (and take Maria's wine advice...a bottle (or two) of chardonnay would give the courage to do or say pretty much anything, letting me embarass myself instead of being at the mercy of the DH)...

Just a quick bit of info...A show called "From page to screen" on the Bravo network will be on, the Nov. 18th episode will be about TEP. Maybe some good behind the scenes footage...Starts at 8 pm. Here is the blurb - What began as a young writer's image of a plane crash in the desert, ended in a best-selling novel and then a film that put everyone involved - author, director, filmmakers and stars - on the map. Though the 10-year journey to create the book and then the movie was not an easy one, for the visionaries that made The English Patient, patience paid off. In this episode of Page to Screen, author Michael Ondaatje, director/screenwriter Anthony Minghella, as well as stars Juliet Binoche, Ralph Feinnes and Kristin Scott Thomas, join others to reveal the epic story behind The English Patient - from Chapter 1 to Oscar night. After six years of writing and researching The English Patient, a little known Canadian author stunned the literary world by winning the celebrated Booker Prize. The novel attracted the attention of the fledgling British film director, Anthony Minghella who, although inspired by the "avalanche of images," was quickly faced with the challenges of adapting a novel that shifts between two time periods, two locations and three love stories to the big screen. Working closely with the author, the vast movie crew had to battle the desert to bring The English Patient to life, raking the shifting sands and constantly repairing their authentic 1940's cars. Then a battle over casting decisions caused the production to shut down. And these were just the first of many challenges� From casting battles, to script changes, to dramatic edits, Page to Screen: The English Patient brings you along on the dramatic movie-making experience that flirted with disaster but ultimately triumphed beyond everyone's wildest dreams - winning nine Oscars�.

Thanks for info on TEP Maria. Sounds interesting. Hope they interview or atleast show CF in it.

Thanks Maria for the heads-up. TEP is my favorite movie of all time:-))))

My fantasy? I'd ask him to lean down, and I would stick my nose in his left dimple and sniff... and if I couldn't sniff his dimple, I'd go for the neck meat. (yes, twisted feral girl here) Then tell him that I love him to death and that he is one of those people who makes life a great deal more enjoyable for all of us simply because he's alive.. then, I'd thank him, pat his arm and leave... just in time to be arrested and make my debut in the evening paper. How's that?

LOL Jeanie, oh twisted, feral one. Here's hoping you get the chance! (I'd love to read about it in the paper!)

(Jeanie) I'd ask him to lean down, and I would stick my nose in his left dimple and sniff... and if I couldn't sniff his dimple, I'd go for the neck meat. LOL...Ooooohhhh...good call. If you miss the dimple you can go for a mole lick on his neck! And! When the restraining order expires, and you see him again, he will be sure to remember you!!! ;-)

My fantasy is to be sitting next to him on a long transatlantic flight. Has anyone seen "L'Histoire D'O"? ;-)

(Moon) My fantasy is to be sitting next to him on a long transatlantic flight. Has anyone seen "L'Histoire D'O"? ;-) Ooooohhh..another good fantasy. He can't escape on a long flight (transatlantic no less...might be good turbulence if you go at the right time of year). A captive. I like that one. ;-) Now I will claim ignorance..."L'Histoire D'O"? I don't know what that is!

(Tress), Now I will claim ignorance..."L'Histoire D'O"? I don't know what that is! A famous French film.

(Moon) My fantasy is to be sitting next to him on a long transatlantic flight. You have nailed it! In first class (of course) with champagne flowing freely, conversation flowing smoothly, and hours of happy thoughts ahead...

(Moon) A famous French film. 'The Story of O'...if I spoke any French at all, maybe I wouldn't have been so thick. Worked at a video store in college...we kept that one in the back room (were the guys had screwed in red lights for effect)...you're naughty! ;-)

(Moon) My fantasy is to be sitting next to him on a long transatlantic flight. Has anyone seen "L'Histoire D'O"? ;-) Ah. Even without the "O" reference, that is the perfect scenario!

I love all the fantasies, and I'd like to join in anyone of them. Especially the transatlantic flight. I can think of some others, but...let's just leave it at that.

(Moon) My fantasy is to be sitting next to him on a long transatlantic flight. Has anyone seen "L'Histoire D'O"? ;-) No, but I've read Green Shoe Diaries ;-) Now THAT one they could make into a video that would need to be kept in back rooms!

(Moon) Has anyone seen "L'Histoire D'O"? (clearing throat) Ahem, yes. What Moon said... ;) Were he single, I'd deploy the never-fail-rock-star-trick. Otherwise, I'd probably be over in the corner yacking with the missus and watching the show. :)

I watched A'ment 0 (for the first time). Apart from watching the opening scene 10 times, I was stunned by the eggs (scrambled this time). This is the 3rd time I've noticed him with them - if he's not whisking them, cracking them, then he's serving them! Also was very impressed that his pronunciation of *Jack* has improved.

(Leah) This is the 3rd time I've noticed him with them - if he's not whisking them, cracking them, then he's serving them! Oh, that's true, I totally missed the egg theme we've got going on! I need to go back and watch it again some time soon. One thing that amazed me about his performance was how he somehow made himself look smaller than he is as Adrian. He's usually got such strong physical presence - partly because he's tall and broad-shouldered and partly just because he's got that indefinable "something - but he managed to shrink all of that as Adrian. I really noticed it in the final scene of the movie, when the contrast was so striking.

(Rika) Oh, that's true, I totally missed the egg theme we've got going on! Say, Rika...You wouldn't happen to have any fun egg themed pics, would you? It seems like a long time since any pics have been posted...We all count on you!!

Maria, I do have a capture of MD with the whisk, but I posted it not that long ago. (If you missed it, here's a link. I don't have AZ on DVD, so can't get the scrambled eggs. I can help you with TIOBE once I have my DVD, but not yet. But perhaps Jeanie might be able to accommodate us......????? In the meantime, this isn't quite what you asked for, but I thought it might offer certain..... compensations. No eggs, but something rather scrumptious-looking all the same:

Who cares about eggs when one can have Darcy necks? Thanks, Rika!

Good Morning! Thank you Rika!! One of my all time favorite shots of Mr. D. Love the Adam's Apple Action. And the look! The boy's in agony, someone help him!! Smooth that crease out from between his eyes.... Okay, found something kinda funny (but not really!). You have to vote at the top (ODB is NOT annoying)! http://www.amiannoying.com/view.asp?ID=2453

(Rika) In the meantime, this isn't quite what you asked for, but I thought it might offer certain..... compensations. No eggs... Did I say eggs? Don't listen to me! It's perfect! Thank you sooooooo much!! I feel very much compensated!!

Shocking!!!!!!!!!!! Well, we've seen it ;-) but to be posted on internet.... http://groups.msn.com/ColinFirthFantasyWomen/wow.msnw

(Leah) This is the 3rd time I've noticed him with them - if he's not whisking them, cracking them, then he's serving them! Are you counting MOTM, too? He cracks the hard-boiled egg in the bar and eats it while talking to the bartender. Quite messy. And as for Annie's link, well, excuse me, but I'm having trouble breathing... :-)

Thanks, Rika! Such suffering poor baby. That's the Mr. Darcy that started it all.

(Moon) Such suffering poor baby. I know..... it's pretty powerful when you can combine all that angst, just begging for comfort, with a neck that's just begging to be nibbled. (BrendaL) And as for Annie's link, well, excuse me, but I'm having trouble breathing... Yes, Janet posted that link on Odds & Ends during my birthday party on Sunday and I think that several of us were deprived of the powers of speech and breathing for an extended time period!

(BrendaL) And as for Annie's link, well, excuse me, but I'm having trouble breathing... :-) (Rika) I think that several of us were deprived of the powers of speech and breathing for an extended time period! My reaction?: Must....remember....to....breathe.... Whew!! I hope he doesn't know about this :)

(Rika) it's pretty powerful when you can combine all that angst, just begging for comfort, with a neck that's just begging to be nibbled. Ain't it the truth?! And to think Lizzie was going to throw this away for Wickham's misfortune! Makes you wonder just how smart that woman was!

(Rika) it's pretty powerful when you can combine all that angst, just begging for comfort, with a neck that's just begging to be nibbled. (KathyF) Ain't it the truth?! And to think Lizzie was going to throw this away for Wickham's misfortune! Makes you wonder just how smart that woman was! This is going into Darcy drool, but I can't agree more...very bite-able. I love his hands in that scene as well. If you watch, he rubs his thumb (I think after he puts down the pen) *sigh* Love the thumb rub... Another good neck nibble scene (IMO) is in FP. During the Bullock Brothers scene. When Sarah goes up to ODB and says...'that's the most romantic thing you've ever said to me'...he looks so scruffy and irresistible. Love that he hikes up his pants as he talks to her!

(BrendaL)And as for Annie's link, well, excuse me, but I'm having trouble breathing... I saw this for the first time on Sunday, while trying to finish my last post for Rika's party, I was speechless, as Dorine well knows. Breathing still has not returned to normal, especially because I just had another peek. Well, I had to be sure it was the same link, it could have been a different picture, well, couldn't it? On the neck front, who needs eggs? Apples are so very sexy.

(Tress)During the Bullock Brothers scene BTW, that is one my favorite scenes in the whole movie. I love when he says "Do I look like the sort of man who would own a Bread Album? Then, I love it when he says "shut up". Ah, loveable Paul Ashworth

(lindak) I love when he says "Do I look like the sort of man who would own a Bread Album? Then, I love it when he says "shut up". Ah, loveable Paul Ashworth I've got to watch it again. It has been a while...and I do love FP (even with his messy hair)! The scene you mentioned is one of my favs as well...also like the scene were he talks about DH Lawrence. The way he looks at Sarah when he confesses is priceless... Now, I'm going to ask if anyone else has noticed something about ODB (and you probably have, but I'm still a newbie, so I've missed out on many posts). When CF puts his arms around his (female) co-stars, I have noticed a tendency to put his hand under their armpit (like he's catching a quick feel). He does this to RG in FP (when they are looking at the apartment) and I noticed he does it to MEM when they are sitting on the rock in MLSF (either before or after church...can't quite remember). I think I have seen him do it in another film...sorry, can't think! Anyway, I find it amusing because he is so tall that it seems that he would have to 'go out of his way' to put his hand there as opposed to across their shoulders.... Little thing, I know, but I find it funny (and I always think...'lucky girl') ;-)

(Tress) I love his hands in that scene as well. If you watch, he rubs his thumb (I think after he puts down the pen) *sigh* Love the thumb rub... pant slobber drool Thumb rub, holding cigarette (MLSF,RV,COF), holding drink (BJD, multiple times), turning page of book (P&P, BJD, WOF), holding/massaging leg (Vmont), groping breasts (COF) slurp, bite, devour

(Rika) Yes, Janet posted that link on Odds & Ends during my birthday party on Sunday and I think that several of us were deprived of the powers of speech and breathing for an extended time period! Like Rika, I've been suffering from oxygen deprivation since her birthday.. LOL! I think ODB would be personally appalled that the great Scottish legend has made such a public appearance, but birthday girly has assured me that shot can be seen if you stop PM at just the right place, so if he's gonna go nakey in a movie I guess having his... ummmm... finer points displayed on the web shouldn't come as a shock to him. Just in case it does, though, and someone in his organization decides that we don't need to be posting such a revelation, I saved the picture to my harddrive! (giggling inanely) So, the DVDiva is going to treat me to 6 hours of LE tomorrow night, and I'm gonna bring the pizza. (laughing) Here it is CMA week and the stars are all over the place at eateries and clubs and such and we decided we'd rather watch HWM than go out on the town...sheesh, noooo.. we're not fanatically obsessed or anything. ;) I'm really looking forward to seeing LE, because being still a relative newbie, I haven't seen it yet, but I've been assured that although HWM was quite young during the filming, he is still quite tasty. Oh, and here you go!

(Jeanie) I'm really looking forward to seeing LE, because being still a relative newbie, I haven't seen it yet, but I've been assured that although HWM was quite young during the filming, he is still quite tasty. LE is one of my new favs. I've read several times that CF enjoys playing characters that have issues, and in this case, he appears to be playing the only sane person surrounded by people with various problems...so, I don't know if this is a favorite role of his, but I enjoyed it so much! He narrates the whole story and you get to see him react to all these perfectly crazy characters! And he is very tasty, as you said, so it makes it a treat to view!! Listen to his accent, I think it was Karen who said he was doing a Yorkshire accent...love it, he sounds so different to me! Thank you Jeanie for the picture of Jack, I mean Earnest....Jack?! ;-) We get an egg shot and a good hand shot all in one! And wearing glasses (I love it when he wears glasses)...

(Tress)(like he's catching a quick feel). LOL. I hadn't noticed, now I have to go back and investigate. Yes, lucky, lucky girls. *sigh* LE is one of my favorites, too. So much delicious screen time, and those voice overs...A very serious and extensive role, and so well done at a fairly young age (Tress)also like the scene were he talks about DH Lawrence Yes, another favorite of mine when he says, "I have to vary the answers". I love when he is floundering to come up with the answer to his own question about which one of DH Lawrence's books is the longest. OK, Tress, you have put me into total FP mode. Must have a viewing tonight.-I can see Paul, and check out the quick feel bit.

(lindak) Yes, another favorite of mine when he says, "I have to vary the answers". I love when he is floundering to come up with the answer to his own question about which one of DH Lawrence's books is the longest. There is a bit of irony in this scene as well (IMO). A few scenes earlier, when he is at Sarah's flat for the first time and he picks up the decorative item on the mantel...asks "what's this for?" and Sarah answers..."nothing, it just looks nice"...when he is talking about DH Lawrence, he is window shopping and looking at the same types of decorative items...he is so completely absorbed in Arsenal thoughts and having to answer Sarah, that he doesn't even realize what he's looking at in the shop. Paul appears to be the type of guy who likes functional stuff (doesn't think too much about decoration), but in this scene, he stops (while he is trying to come up with the DH Lawrence answer) and stares into a shop window that has absolutely nothing that I can think Paul would be interested in...it makes me laugh... I'm in full FP mode right now too...I'm going to have to watch it again real soon. (lindak) So much delicious screen time, and those voice overs... I'm a big fan of the voice overs. I could listen to him all day. I've been trying to find a copy of the book he narrates (Comeback). Not a book I would normally read, but if he was reading it to me! mmmmmm....Wish he would do an audio book of Ulysses, I've been trying to get past page 5 for the past year!

(Tress) I've been trying to find a copy of the book he narrates (Comeback). Not a book I would normally read, but if he was reading it to me! mmmmmm.... I've seen copies at Ebay; you might want to check there. (Jeanie) So, the DVDiva is going to treat me to 6 hours of LE tomorrow night Lucky you! LE marathon! Who needs the CMAs when you have ODB to entertain you? :)

I don't know if this is a favorite role of his, but I enjoyed it so much! He narrates the whole story and you get to see him react to all these perfectly crazy characters! I like it too...even on my lousy VHS copy. I dunno if Colin did or not. It was a long shoot....he called it a "sentence". Did not get good reviews.

Jeanie - shot can be seen if you stop PM at just the right place In my VHS tape, the shot is cropped slightly higher that in the pic posted. - Nessie is only in view a few frames earlier, obscured behind the glass wall!!

(Jeanie) I'm really looking forward to seeing LE, because being still a relative newbie, I haven't seen it yet, but I've been assured that although HWM was quite young during the filming, he is still quite tasty. He is totally scrumpcious. Unbelievable. This is one of my favorite rolls of his, and the movie IMO one of the best. Hope you enjoy it. I really love him and this movie. Good reviews or not I think it was very entertaining, and extremely well acted. One of the best. Yet the voting on IMDB ranked it the highest 9.7 out of 10 out of all his films, with P&P at 9.5. I love the scenes with him and Julie Blaine. I see alot of chemistry there and I think they really interact well. Thanks for the pics Rika and Jeanie and Janet and Annie words can't express the gratitude. Are there any more anywhere?

(Janet) In my VHS tape, the shot is cropped slightly higher that in the pic posted. Mine, too. And believe me, I've stopped and started it and gone slowly backwards and forwards, and no matter what I do, it's still cropped higher. I feel cheated! (but still thankful for what IS there)

(FanPam) Yet the voting on IMDB ranked it the highest 9.7 out of 10 out of all his films, with P&P at 9.5. And all 4 Amazon reviewers gave it 5 out of 5 stars (I didn't check to see if the were CF fans, that can skew results if your smitten). ;-) (FanPam) I love the scenes with him and Julie Blaine. I see alot of chemistry there and I think they really interact well. They worked together again a few years later. Carmen Du Sautoy and ODB were in "Desire Under the Elms". I agree they had good chemistry. Enjoyed their scenes together in LE...I really liked the actress who played Cissie as well.

(Tress) I love his hands in that scene as well. If you watch, he rubs his thumb (I think after he puts down the pen) *sigh* Love the thumb rub... Had to watch this again. I keep forgetting to watch his hands, and then I have to rewind and remember to watch again, and then I miss it and have to watch it again... Do I have a problem?

(LeahP)Had to watch this again. I keep forgetting to watch his hands, and then I have to rewind and remember to watch again, and then I miss it and have to watch it again... Do I have a problem? No!! Leah there are things I have watched multiple multiple times and still have no idea what the dialogue is or who else is even in the scene because of the rapt attention paid to ODB. I keep promising myself I will watch it differently the next time but...

I loved him in the turban and eye make-up too. And it was Olivier's last role. Something to note.

LE was the movie that "turned" my 14-year-old. Not even Pride & Prejudice had stirred her interest in ODB, but after watching young Richard Herncastle... well, now she takes an entirely different view of her mum's "obsession", and I'm observing that she perks up now whenever ODB is on-screen, rather than the glazed expression she used to have "pre-Richard".

(Sandy) LE was the movie that "turned" my 14-year-old. Richard Herncastle stirred me too, and I was already stirred up!!! (Tress) I agree they had good chemistry. Enjoyed their scenes together in LE...I really liked the actress who played Cissie as well. I agree. Cissie was perfect. It was so well done. I believe CF and CdS appeared in "Desire" in 1987 which would have been shortly after LE. They were so very, very good together. I just can't get over him in that. He is so very very handsome. I sit with a bucket when I put that one on, and I ususally prefer his more mature look. But not in this case. Also loved his look in Dutch Girls which was similar to LE. Mary asked a very good question on 165. It was here opinion that one of his best acting jobs was "Tumbledown" which I agree with and she then asked if he had really been challenged in any roll since. This is a good one ladies. Any comments. IMO I don't know if I would call him challenged. He is so superior in his abilities that he makes rolls look easy IMO. I read where he said Mark Darcy was no challenge for him. But he's quoted many times saying that Darcy was a real challenge for him. FP he said was like playing himself, only without the football interest. IMO he seemed to be having fun with The Acvocate. Hostages and Master of the Moor I thought were really good too. But as far as challenges, I don't know. He just makes it look so easy and that's because he's so exceptional. I'm sure there are some rolls he found difficult but you couldn't tell. Good question.

(FanPam) Also loved his look in Dutch Girls which was similar to LE. Loved his look in Dutch Girls! Was going to suggest to SandyM that her 14 year-old daughter might enjoy that one as well. Very young, very handsome, sweet movie (does have a red light district scene, but fairly tame stuff compared to other 'teen movies'). Liked his look in Another Country too, but might be a bit much for a 14 year-old...I was 19 when I first saw it and much of it went completely over my head (I was a bit naive), I got some of it (like how handsome all the leads were), but I didn't understand that it was based on Guy Burgess' life and I didn't understand the english school system (with prefects and head of house ect). I rewatched it years later and was surprised at all that I had missed. Regarding Mary's question on 165: Post Tumbledown...I think there have been several great roles since then (that I hoped he found challenging). I agree with Pam...he makes it look easy, but he has to be channeling some demons on a few of these parts: I enjoyed (and thought he did an exceptional job on): Hostages, Pride and Prejudice (Darcy was such a 'restricted' character. Think it has be hard to contain emotion as well as show it), Donovan Quick (loved this film and thought he was outstanding) and Conspiracy (the subject matter alone must have been tough to deal with, let alone the way it was filmed...like "12 Angry Men", there was such an intensity about the whole movie).

(Pam) He just makes it look so easy and that's because he's so exceptional. I agree totally. Unfortunately, this might keep him from getting the recognition he so richly deserves. IMO, many awards these days are being given to those guilty of overacting. It often seems that an actor who doesn't go "over the top" hasn't a chance of winning an Oscar, Emmy, etc. (I don't know if this is true for Tonys, because I haven't seen anything on Broadway in years.) I always thought the sign of a great actor was his ability to make the audience see him as whatever part he was playing, and not as an actor playing a part. To me, this is what CF does so well. He totally becomes his character, with every look and movement incorporated in his portrayal. I've often told the unColinized among my friends what an amazing actor CF is, but unless they've seen him in more than one or two films, they just don't understand my enthusiasm.

(FanPam) I ususally prefer his more mature look. But not in this case. Also loved his look in Dutch Girls which was similar to LE. Pam,I totally agree! I just watched Dutch Girls and felt the same way!! I find it incredible that I am attracted to him even in his youth as I never liked "younger men" even when I was that age, I always thought they improved dramatically after 30 but with ODB all of my little isms get tossed out the window... as far as challenges, I don't know. He just makes it look so easy and that's because he's so exceptional. What a difficult question to ask of a bunch of devotees....His skills are so very extraordinary, and there is a dearth of extraordinary (i.e "challenging") material or roles. I have to go back to my food/wine analogies..(humor me)..A friend of ours is an amazing chef...He has worked and apprenticed himself with the best in the business and it shows..Eating his food is an sensual epiphany and yet there are those that eat his food that just want a steak and a baked potato. They live on one plane of existence and are unaware of all the layers beyond that hold so many more treasures beyond the ordinary. He is recognized but not in the way of those that shamelessly self promote and whore themselves to the food media..O.K., O.K., you can see where this all leads, (I hope) ODB IMO has always raised the bar for every production he has been in. There are bits and pieces of the exceptional in all of his performances and I can only hope that there is more than just steak and potatoes on his plate in the future...

There are bits and pieces of the exceptional in all of his performances Sorry to repost on my own post but I realized this line could be easily misconstrued...I should have just said, his acting is exceptional even when the material or fellow actors performances leave something to be desired...

(MariaT) ODB IMO has always raised the bar for every production he has been in. There are bits and pieces of the exceptional in all of his performances and I can only hope that there is more than just steak and potatoes on his plate in the future... What a great way to put this! He has raised the bar...if you think of even his worst movies, he is never the weakest link and is usually the one performer who shines. I hope ODB can get more than steak and potatoes! He is an exceptional performer and it would be a waste of his talent otherwise. I can easily see him getting an Oscar (or the elusive BAFTA) if only he were in the right role. I watch the Oscars year after year and I often see, what I think are mediocre actors, getting the golden guy because they had a great part...ODB is a great performer who just hasn't found that one role yet...I keep hoping (and get excited whenever I see a drama on his list of 'to-do's' since it's all about the drama)!

(Murph)Do you think Colin has grown as an actor over the years? I was thinking today that, IMO, his best role was Tumbledown many years ago. Outside of AZ, SIL and Conspiracy, has he been as challenged since? IMO, he was, on the whole, doing much more challenging work 15 years ago. Who would have thought that the young man who burst on the scene in Another Country or who mesmerized in Tumbledown or AMITC or AZ . . . would be doing Londinium, SLOW, Relative Values, TTOTS, and WAGW?! It's sad, to me. This is a distinguished actor. I do not like the preponderance of comedies. He does fine in them, but his forte is drama. He was truly outstanding in Conspiracy. I also very much liked him in 3DOR--playing two very different characters in a talky, complex play, in an accent not his own. Challenging. We do have GWAPE to look forward to on the drama front, but frankly it may be another repressed, emotionally constipated role, and I'm tiring of them because he's done so many. Again, the sameness. No growth, which is what your question was about.

(Mari) IMO, he was, on the whole, doing much more challenging work 15 years ago. I often wonder if his personal life has something to do with his choices. I mean, 15 years ago, he was a single guy. Now he has two kids to support and I think that maybe he often does things to pay the bills (how else to explain PM or L'dum). Also, he seems very happy in his current family life and I wonder if his work just isn't the priority it used to be (he would rather be with wife and kid(s) than take that job which would require him to be away for too long...or do a screen test...it just isn't as important to him now??). I may be totally off base with this, because when he does get a role, he puts all he's got into it (no slacker), but he just doesn't seem too aggressive about seeking out projects...

Sorry - My question was in the wrong place. Here it is as FanPam indicates above: A question to throw out there (and I hope it belongs here) -- Do you think Colin has grown as an actor over the years? I was thinking today that, IMO, his best role was Tumbledown many years ago. Outside of AZ, SIL and Conspiracy, has he been as challenged since?

I don't know where I'm supposed to talk about my Darcy Sim, but you should see him! I made one today, and he's perfect! I'm gonna try to find some way to post a closeup of his face so that you can look at him! LOL!

Ok... here's his lil face And his lil body.... I'm gonna have to work on making him some new clothes.

Jeanie, something important is missing! Haven't you been paying attention to the left-right discussions?

(KathyF)Jeanie, something important is missing! Haven't you been paying attention to the left-right discussions? Yeah, Jeanie, I know flat front slacks are in, but Darcy looks like he needs some left/right enhancement.

And with those hands on the hips, he looks more like he'd be Peter than Darcy. ;-)

Jeanie, I really like your Darcy Sim. Can he be plugged into The Sims, or is he purely decorative? I think maybe a little shading to give the pants some ... dimension?

(Kathy) I always thought the sign of a great actor was his ability to make the audience see him as whatever part he was playing, and not as an actor playing a part. I agree 100%. IMO the actor has done the job if I laugh, cry, love or hate the person they are portraying. Evoking any emotional reaction means I believe they are who they are portraying and that is to me what an actor's job is. After seeing a movie instead of thinking of the character all I can think of is the actor who played it, then they didn't convince me, therefore not doing the job. IMO. The exception being of course the actor who has done such a good job that they become the character to me, Colin is Darcy, Richard Herncastle, Donovan Quick, etc. (MariaT) Sorry to repost on my own post but I realized this line could be easily misconstrued...I should have just said, his acting is exceptional even when the material or fellow actors performances leave something to be desired. I agree 100% and understand your analogy of people looking at only the surface and not be willing to see all the wonderful things lieing underneath. His acting unfolds on so many levels. I didn't mean in any way to imply it was easy, just so my statement isn't misconstrued. His abilities allow his performances to LOOK EASY. Being the highest of compliments. Great Darcy Sim Jeanie. You should be proud. He does however need to be anatomicly correct. (Tress) I often wonder if his personal life has something to do with his choices. I agree 100%. IMO that's the crux of the matter, but since we are not privy to his logic in picking the films he does I guess we will never know. IMO We can only hope that that "perfect roll" comes to him, and that he takes it. Many articles have been posted showing what is a marketable movie now, being aimed at the 18 to 30 crowd as the most financially successful. So that is what the production companies are going to make. At least that's what I've discerned from the articles. So IMO if an actor wants to work they have to accept the roles in whatever type of film is popular. It may not be something that will showcase their forte but when there are not alot of choices being offered IMO the actor is forced to take what is offered. One thing we do know for sure is that whatever movie he is in he will shine above the other actors and the plot.

Oh, my lil darcy is fully functional! (giggling inanely) I had him studying cooking books today while he sat in the library so that he won't burn Pemberley to the ground the first time he attempts to cook some dinner. The outfit he has on wasn't made by me. I plan for my darcy suits to have more detail. Once I start on some personalized clothing for my little brooder, I'll have to consider the left/right situation. ;) Meg, you just put his files into the "skins" folder in the sims directory, and then you can choose him once you're making your family. I'll send him to you once I get him a little more perfected if you wish for me to. Rika is just as wonderful as she appears to be online, if not more so! =) We had a great time, and I really enjoyed LE. I'm hoping our paths will cross again one of these days.

(Murph)Do you think Colin has grown as an actor over the years? I was thinking today that, IMO, his best role was Tumbledown many years ago. Outside of AZ, SIL and Conspiracy, has he been as challenged since? Do you think part of the reason for this is also that he has decided to concentrate on feature films? I am sure he could get plum roles in television in the UK but he has obviously decided that at this stage of his career he should be trying to make a go of film rather than television. I am sure he could take his pick of TV roles but the movie industry is an American medium largely and he is less well known there so he has less room to pick and choose.

(Allison)I am sure he could get plum roles in television in the UK I agree, everytime I see a new drama on A&E, etc. I think-this would be perfect for CF. Lots more viewing time as well. I often wish he would do more TV as well as the films. But, that of course is IMO.

I often wish he would do more TV But that might be seen as a downward move in the industry.

I often wish he would do more TV But that might be seen as a downward move in the industry. And where would that leave us, who don't live in England or the USA and never get to see his TV-work? Exept P&P and Nostromo I have never had the opportunity to see anything he did for TV.

(Nita)And where would that leave us, I didn't mean to suggest that he should do TV at the expense of his film career. Nor should he do TV exclusively, but an A&E drama every now and then would certainly help to fill in the gaps, and most of those are shown around the world.

Jeanie -- Thanks! Can't wait! RE: I'd like to see him do more of the talk show circut of course. Do you think it's too soon to start nagging Letterman to ask him to be on the show? Or even Leno. I wish we could view British DVD's and tapes on American machines. There are so many things I haven't seen. Does anyone out there have the book on tape he did? I could listen to that voice for hours... Don't much care what he's even saying.

(Tress) I often wonder if his personal life has something to do with his choices. I mean, 15 years ago, he was a single guy. Now he has two kids to support and I think that maybe he often does things to pay the bills (how else to explain PM or L'dum). I completely agree that his family life has changed his priorities, and I certainly cannot fault him for that... good news for his family, bad news for us that love to see him accomplish meatier roles. Oh, and on that subject, I realized last night while watching LE with DVDiva that sweet baby-faced Richard could and did KISS! (laughing) I'd love to see him turn it on in a kissing scene now like he did back then. He was completely adorable... all legs, knees, elbows and raging hormones..LOL!

(jeanie) that sweet baby-faced Richard could and did KISS! (laughing) I'd love to see him turn it on in a kissing scene now like he did back then. He was completely adorable... all legs, knees, elbows and raging hormones..LOL! LOL. You mean he not only did better, work 15 yrs ago...but he even kissed better 15 yrs ago;-)

(Evelyn), You mean he not only did better, work 15 yrs ago...but he even kissed better 15 yrs ago;-) Well... he did seem to kiss better back then. ;-) And the roles were more interesting too. (Tress), I think that maybe he often does things to pay the bills (how else to explain PM or L'dum). I don't think he got paid much for either role. I know MB works on a very low budget and asks friends to do it. The sad truth is that he might have done L because he liked the script! I have seen the Italian films that he's liked and they are big ZZZZZZZ. I would have liked to have seen him as Ted Hughes. I thought he gave up on it without a fight. A co-starring role with Gwynneth would have been a great move. Let's hope TEOR and Fade to Black become a reality.

(Tress), I think that maybe he often does things to pay the bills (how else to explain PM or L'dum). (Moon)I don't think he got paid much for either role. True he probably didn't get paid *that* much for PM in comparison to some others, but didn't he say he took it because he had a family to support, wasn't getting work living with Meg in the sticks, and it paid well for a short shoot? L'dum is a puzzlement. MB must be some friend. Maybe it looked better on paper. With different casting...who knows how it could've turned out, too.

(Meg) I wish we could view British DVD's and tapes on American machines Some auction sites sell DVD hacks (supposedly legal) that allow you, via the remote, to change the software to allow your player to accept other region DVDs.(Doesn't work with my brand, unfortunately). You can email them to check before you buy. Worth a try!!

(Nita)And where would that leave us, who don't live in England or the USA and never get to see his TV-work? You find a Firthfan who lives in UK/Europe and you borrow them. Watch your email.

(FanPam) Many articles have been posted showing what is a marketable movie now, being aimed at the 18 to 30 crowd as the most financially successful. So that is what the production companies are going to make. It is unfortunate. I honestly would rather see ODB in a small, independent film of good quality, than in a blockbuster with a formula plot and a Hollywood ending...just my opinion. Won't get him that Oscar (although there seems to be a growing trend right now and more and more people are seeking out "alternate" movies...he may get the recognition even in a small film). (Jeanie) Meg, you just put his files into the "skins" folder in the sims directory, and then you can choose him once you're making your family. I'll send him to you once I get him a little more perfected if you wish for me to. Oh, me too! Me too! (Pretty please)!!! ;-) (lindak) I often wish he would do more TV. (Allison M) But that might be seen as a downward move in the industry. I don't know. BBC and A&E do some pretty good stuff. I don't know if it is seen as a downward move anymore. In the US we have Keifer Sutherland doing 24, James Gandolfini doing The Sopranos, The West Wing is loaded with stars. Sex and the City (these are all serials I realize, but it has really done something for the stars of those shows). (Jeanie) I completely agree that his family life has changed his priorities, and I certainly cannot fault him for that... I cannot fault him either. If he has to make a choice, I would rather he take care of family and be happy (whimper...even if it means we have to see less of him). (Moon) I would have liked to have seen him as Ted Hughes. I was very disappointed to hear that he did not go for this...it could have been *the role*. Oh well.... (Evelyn) LOL. You mean he not only did better, work 15 yrs ago...but he even kissed better 15 yrs ago;-) LOL....I think maybe the women in his life (first MT then LD) may have something to do with his new kissing technique. He has to keep it chaste, otherwise, there may be h*ll to pay when he gets home!! :-D (Meg) Does anyone out there have the book on tape he did? I could listen to that voice for hours... Don't much care what he's even saying. I was just talking about this one the other day!! Moonstar was saying to check ebay because she has seen copies (I have done this sporadically, and am going to be more aggressive in my search now...I always see the book, but never the audio). BTW Meg, it is "Comeback" by Dick Francis (you may already have known that). I also want to hear the BBC Radio program "The One Before the Last". I have heard it is v. v. good.

Hi everyone, coming out of lurkdom after a much too long absence!! I have been so busy with work and other CRAP, it is almost to impossible to keep up with CF news, let alone chime in.... I wanted to let you know that I HAVE the book, COMEBACK on audiotape. I would be happy to attempt to make some copies..I bought it about a year ago on EBAY... very pricey... but I could listen to his voice read the phone book.. so worth it!! email me at this address... sandi

He also narrated the docu "Bintley's Mozart" and a small fragment of "Moby Dick" on an Italian CD. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

(Evelyn) ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ That bad??? Both of them...??? I'd love to hear him do all of 'Moby Dick'..."Call me Ishmael" Mmmmmmm.....guessing he didn't do that part though since you said it was a small fragment. On an Italian CD...did he do it in Italian??? It may be worth a listen then! "Bintley's Mozart"? Never heard of that one either...is it actually about Mozart? From your reaction, I would guess it is not as gripping as 'Amadeus'. Still, possibly better than the phone book... ;-)

Still, possibly better than the phone book... ;-) LOL. Mobetta than Londinium. I haven't seen Bintlely'Mozart in 5 yrs. Unbearably boring. He speaks in a monotone. It's a docu of a ballet company.I'll check it out again and tell you about it in detail. The CD is called "Dreamtime" by Carlo Franci. Some of the pieces are electronic music . He narrates the one in English "Music for an Albatross" "In the straightforward writing of The Albatross one recognizes a search for absolute internalization. The string orchestra converses with the electronic sounds, and interacts with them blending with them to the point at which the orchestra is swept into a chasm of sonority.....blah, blah.." The last three pieces on the CD are: Dreamtime: The narrator recites the morning prayer of the Buddhist Soka-Gakkai sect of Japan. Mandala: For the Tibetan Buddhist the wheel of the Mandala is the residence of the gods. Rain Dreaming: The voices in this piece are from the Ngapa Aboriginies of North-west Australia and the Mbuti Pygmy children from the Congo region of Africa. A garanteed cure for insomnia... LOL. Emma found them online at a fire sale!!

(Evelyn) LOL. You mean he not only did better, work 15 yrs ago...but he even kissed better 15 yrs ago;-) Welllll, I guess I should rephrase and say that his onscreen kisses of the past tend to appear more passionate to me. I can't speak of how he really kisses now, but, like many of us, such talents can only tend toimprove with age and experience! ;) Tress, I'll be glad to send my lil brooder to you once I can find some better clothes for him, and I need to work a bit on his ears and hands. They're not as clear as they should be in my opinion. Oh, and Dorine, because of your insult upon his manliness, lil darcy says he will not subject himself to be an object of ridicule again and has locked himself in the library and refuses to come out. =P I wish there was some way I could teach him to say "Wot!". Rika and I attempted to count the "Wot"s Richard said last night. Oh wow... just finished watching SLOW for the first time. I have to vote Matthew in for "the best hair" role. He was simply beautiful.

(Evelyn re: Bintley's Mozart) LOL. Mobetta than Londinium. LOL...but isn't everything better the L'dum?? And please, don't watch it again on my account (if it is such a snoozer)! I wonder if it was done during his time with Meg? She was a ballerina...could explain the monotone...it was her interest, not his....'honey, you HAVE to do that ballet gig! It would be so wonderful!!' ;-) A garanteed cure for insomnia... LOL! Maybe that's why they called it Dreamtime? I found it on Yahoo Shopping (none available at this time, in case anyone was wondering), but I think ODB's 'piece' is about 3rd on the CD and if it is as exciting as Evelyn describes it, there may be time to hear him before you slip into that deep, deep sleep (I could actuallly think of worse things than hearing ODB's voice prior to snoozing)... ;-) (Jeanie) Tress, I'll be glad to send my lil brooder to you once I can find some better clothes for him.... Oh, goodie! He's coming all dressed up and ready to go! (Jeanie)...just finished watching SLOW for the first time. I have to vote Matthew in for "the best hair" role. He was simply beautiful. He does look particularly well in SLOW (which is why I don't have such a hard time with that movie)...pure eye-candy! (Dorine) L'dum is a puzzlement. MB must be some friend. Maybe it looked better on paper. I'm thinking CF must be some friend. MB had nothing to lose in this case...ODB has been in a couple of Oscar nominated films. It's a puzzle to me...the same man who chose to do SIL and TEP, chose to select L'dum as a project! I can't imagine it looking better on paper (okay, I can, because he can't hear MB's whiny, annoying voice)! ;-)

Just wanted to say that I just won an auction for a Femme Fatal DVD on eBay. The seller (from Hong Kong) guarantees it is region free. I guess FF is a new release to DVD? I'll let you know what it looks like when I get it.

(Barb S) The seller (from Hong Kong) guarantees it is region free. I guess FF is a new release to DVD? I have a friend who is into old kung-fu movies and gets a lot of DVDs from Hong Kong. They are usually burned from the VHS tape onto a DVD. Most look professionally done and are quite good. Please let us know what it looks like! Imagine, PM could be next and then the frame-by-frame stuff could get really out of hand! ;-)

Jeanie, so glad you liked LE and he was indeed raging hormones and an excellent kisser. So passionate, so willing and so uninhibited. Have to say IMO on-screen kisses were better 15 years ago. Wouldn't even hazard a guess about quality of private kissing, as I believe they are out of my realm of experience and why punish myself any further. (Tress) I don't know. BBC and A&E do some pretty good stuff. I don't know if it is seen as a downward move anymore. In the US we have Keifer Sutherland doing 24, James Gandolfini doing The Sopranos, The West Wing is loaded with stars. Sex and the City (these are all serials I realize, but it has really done something for the stars of those shows). I agree good TV would be a wise career move. A&E BBC HBO. HBO gave us Conspiracy and him an Emmy nod. Potential is there. The majority of the cited stars also have film careers so it can be successfully intertwined. IMO if there was an actor I watched faithfully on TV appearing in a movie I would definitely see the movie and vise versa if the actor usually in films appeared on tv. So I think it would be good exposure. And even series today aren't as time consuming for actors as they used to be. They actually used to do 26 episodes. Now we're lucky if they do eight or 10 in a year affording them plenty of time for other projects IMO. Plus the salaries seem to be quite good.

(Pam) Keifer Sutherland doing 24, James Gandolfini doing The Sopranos, The West Wing is loaded with stars. Sex and the City Um....actually...what of note, that has been a success critically or commercially, has any of the people in these shows done in movies. Yes, it's excellent exposure, but most of their film choices have been dubious, at best, as well. Martin Sheen is the only one I can think of out of this group that has done anything of note. And please don't construe that I'm insinuating the others are not talented in some way, I'm just saying that success in TV, does not translate to success in movies (and vice versa). Look at David Caruso, for example. He's not back on TV because he's done so well with movies. He's been in quite a few, but would not say that medium was good for/to him. TV *is* generally good money...or at least a steady paycheck.

BTW, I'm sure I've left out someone besides Martin Sheen. He was just the strongest one to come to mind at the moment.

(Evelyn, on LE) Did not get good reviews. That must not have been universal because I've read some very good ones. But I can imagine that this wouldn't have appealed to everyone. (Jeanie) Oh wow... just finished watching SLOW for the first time. I have to vote Matthew in for "the best hair" role. He was simply beautiful. Told ya!!! I want to add to what Jeanie said about our Firth-a-thon on Friday evening. I had to be in Nashville this weekend for a convention, and I had Friday evening free and knew Jeanie lived in the area, so we arranged to meet. We had pizza and watched episodes 1-4 of "Lost Empires." Jeanie is just as much fun in person as in her posts, but now I'll be hearing all her posts in my head in the cutest Southern accent. :-) We made some discoveries: (1) You know that infamous stage direction in P&P for the "On foot?" scene? We found a place in LE where that same stage direction might have come into play. It's in Episode 1, when Noni (the flirtatious French acrobat) is coming on to Richard in the theater while he's waiting for his turn at band call. The look on his face..... well..... time for visual aids (the photo on the right is from immediately after she walks away): (2) There's a scene near the end of episode 2 where that Russian woman takes Richard aside and tries to warn him about Julie ("you will be broken in pieces"). We watched it a few times trying to decide if it's Richard or Colin who's struggling to suppress a smile. Either way, it's a real treat watching him trying SO hard to suppress the dimples. I don't blame him for having to fight back the giggles, because that woman is hilarious. (I tried to do a screen capture, but you've gotta see the dimples in motion to appreciate it.) (3) The kissing, which Jeanie has already mentioned. Verrrry nice. No lessons needed back then. (4) A certified count of seven "Wot?"'s in episodes 1-4. (5) Jeanie spotted the most delicious smirk. It's late in Episode 4. Richard and Uncle Nick are walking into the agent's office without giving the officious secretary a chance to announce them, and Richard is enjoying her distress tremendously because she was so rude to him when he tried to ask her about Nancy's whereabouts. It's funniest when you see him wearing the smirk as he walks through the door, so here's an "action sequence" (these are somewhat out of focus because he was moving fast):

(Rika) trying to decide if it's Richard or Colin who's struggling to suppress a smile. Either way, it's a real treat watching him trying SO hard to suppress the dimples Just got my LE this week but having a difficulty finding the time to sit long enough to really concentrate on it. Can't wait to come upon this scene and all the other little tidbits you pointed out. Thanks Rika and Jeanie. Glad you two had so much fun.

(Dorine) I'm just saying that success in TV, does not translate to success in movies (and vice versa). Look at David Caruso, for example. He's not back on TV because he's done so well with movies. He's been in quite a few, but would not say that medium was good for/to him. But DC is a red-headed goober, with the sex appeal of a dishrag, IMO. He must have gotten professional advice from the same person guiding Shelley Long ("Cheers") and Suzanne Sommers (wasn't that the name of the blonde from "Three's Company"?). When an actor suddenly becomes a hot property on TV, (s)he sometimes feels a successful film career is the next logical step. Unfortunately, sometimes that level of success on ONE television show is, instead, the high point of that actor's career. (Pam) I agree good TV would be a wise career move. A&E BBC HBO... I think it would be good exposure. And even series today aren't as time consuming for actors as they used to be. I can't imagine CF doing a TV series at this point, much as I would love it for my own selfish reasons. However, I feel that taking part in a quality TV production for A&E, BBC, HBO, PBS or similar would be a good thing for ODB. If the part is a good one, then the exposure couldn't hurt, IMO. After all, he may bemoan Darcymania, but P&P certainly didn't hurt him, either financially or professionally. He hasn't been typecast as a perennial Regency hero, and P&P definitely led to other roles. I really think he just needs a new agent, or some better professional guidance.

(Dorine),Look at David Caruso, for example. He's not back on TV because he's done so well with movies. He's been in quite a few, but would not say that medium was good for/to him. DC lives in Miami and stars on CBS's top rated show CSI Miami.

(Kathy) Suzanne Sommers (wasn't that the name of the blonde from "Three's Company"?). Ah yes, but turns out she didn't need TV shows anyway..she discovered infomercials! ;) She's more successful now because of her books and Thighmaster. And agreed about DC, he is flat, but he *is* better received on TV. I'd love to see ODB on more quality TV movies on HBO, etc. But it's not often that there is true success on both TV *and* Movies. As you say... sometimes that level of success on ONE television show is, instead, the high point of that actor's career..... P&P definitely led to other roles That hasn't been his *only* success certainly, but so far, it has been, popularity-wise, his pinnacle, the role he has been trying to live down....he may bemoan Darcymania. Plus it depends on his definition of success in the business. If it's to be working on a fairly regular basis, then he is *very* successful. If it's to get critical plaudits, he has been very successful with that, too. If it's to be an A-list actor who gets a gazillion dollars for each role, then not. If it's to work consistently in projects that interest and challenge him professionally, I would also say that's been sporadic. As we've read, he bemoans that point, as well. It would be nice though if ODB could do *very, very* well financially though, so he could pick and choose and wait it out for the really great roles (drama if that's what he wants). The other night, went to a BAFTA screening of The Quiet American with a Q&A with Michael Caine after. Someone made a comment about how much they liked his movie Last Orders, but it was a shame that no one saw it. He commented that now he's financially in a position to take parts that he loves in small movies on a regular basis if he chooses, such as the next one he's doing in Texas with Robert Duvall and Haley Joel Osment. He and RD play the eccentric Texas uncles of HJO. Forgot the name. Looked it up, too. To top it off, Miramax will be pushing MC for Oscar consideration for The Quiet American. And this for a movie that sat on the shelf for a year.

(Dorine),Look at David Caruso, for example. He's not back on TV because he's done so well with movies. He's been in quite a few, but would not say that medium was good for/to him. (Moon) DC lives in Miami and stars on CBS's top rated show CSI Miami. I'm not sure of your point to this comment except that you may have taken it as I was implying that he isn't successful on TV. I was saying he was not successful in the movies and subsequently landed back on TV. Sorry if I didn't say it clearly. :-)

(Tress)they called it Dreamtime? I found it on Yahoo Shopping (none available at this time, in case anyone was wondering),... LOL. We probably bought them out.Drool made a run for it... (Evelyn, on LE) Did not get good reviews. (Rika)That must not have been universal because I've read some very good ones. But I can imagine that this wouldn't have appealed to everyone. Apparently it came on the heels of Brideshead Revisited and people expectations were higher than LE. Like you said: limited appeal. Like Nostromo which was released a yr after P&P. People expectations were not for that type of project. They expected another P&P. LOL No way is Joseph Conrad gonna be like Jane Austen!

(Evelyn) No way is Joseph Conrad gonna be like Jane Austen! You are correct, m'dear! I just bought Nostromo, in the middle of watching it for the first time now, one episode left to go - I have never had such a hard time watching one of his movies! I have to hold back from fast forwarding. It's just not for me. Although I am curious to see the outcome as I am not familiar with the story. But it's just not very good, IMO! Yes he's good at the restrained englishman yet again, but still...

Sorry, Karen, I know this is probably the wrong place to post this. A very clever girl called Berry has created a montage of scenes from P&P and BJD to 'Out of Reach' by Gabrielle. (This was on the same site that had the very interesting snappie from PM). I think you'll like it!!!!!! http://www.green-sector.de/media/pride_bridget.zip

(Emma)/(Evelyn) No way is Joseph Conrad gonna be like Jane Austen! You are correct, m'dear! I just bought Nostromo, in the middle of watching it for the first time now, one episode left to go - I have never had such a hard time watching one of his movies! I have to hold back from fast forwarding. It's just not for me. Although I am curious to see the outcome as I am not familiar with the story. But it's just not very good, IMO! Yes he's good at the restrained englishman yet again, but still... I agree. And I have tried to watch it. Maybe its the storyline, but it's not my cup of tea either, Emma. Do like Colin in it and love his look, but just can't get into the story. Will keep on trying though. So glad you had such a good time Rika and Jeanie. Now LE is certainly my cup of tea, although can agree that it may not appeal to everyone. What great observations as I have watched atleast 20 times. One of my favorites and thanks for the great pics. There is so much to be observed in that movie. When Noni is coming on to him its the same time his voiceover is saying that he finds Nancy, Noni and Julie sexually attractive. Good stuff. Agree the dimples are in overaction in talk with Russian lady. I think Richard is a bit surprised that she is having this conversation with him at all, and possibly smiles are of embarrassment and amazement. As he honestly doesn't feel that everyone notices his tongue touching the ground or his eyes glazing over whenever he's around Julie Blaine. Great Stuff. And the "smirk" so appropriate. He's enjoying Nick's clout and letting her know it. "Don't *f* with me bitch." Love it. Wish I could watch this with you. Just love the whole thing, even the people I hate in it. Love the Italian and their friendship. On the train when he goes into the dining car and sits with him, then they both eye the woman who just left him as she walks down the aisle. How cute is that. One of my favorite scenes could and do watch that over and over. Then Richard says, "How do you do it?" So funny. Love it. Also love the whole first time with Julie sequence. Totally believable and so well done. The look in his eyes when he first sees her. Oh God, then the way they are sleeping together and their arms and hands are entwined. Oh God, Oh God. Wish I was Carmen. Just once. Now that I am totally drooling will go to sink and do dishes. Might not be so obvious then. Then will have to watch it again. Can't help myself. (Dorine) I'm just saying that success in TV, does not translate to success in movies (and vice versa). Look at David Caruso, for example. He's not back on TV because he's done so well with movies. He's been in quite a few, but would not say that medium was good for/to him. About TV. Certainly did not mean to imply he should do crap. He wouldn't to begin with IMO. But the opportunity is there for good exposure and it would give us more of a chance to see him. TV is not all bad actors, I enjoy alot of them. The fact that he has a solid movie career will not put him in the same boat as some of them. KS I think is a very good actor as evidenced by 24. And JG was critiqued on a local radio show, of course keep in mind this is the NY area, as one of the best actors the interviewer knew. So it's all a matter of opinion which is the basis of entertainment choices anyway. IMO It's a very personal thing, IMO what and who appeals to each of us as well as what we each find entertaining. And isn't that wonderful. Thanks for the most enjoyable link, Janet. Good stuff.

(Emma B)I just bought Nostromo, in the middle of watching it for the first time now, one episode left to go - I have never had such a hard time watching one of his movies! Most of it was not Colin's fault. If you think the film is bad, try reading the book! Joseph Conrad is unfilmable; more sublplots than you can count.To compound the issue the director went for an international cast ( for funding, no doubt!).The myriad of accents don't help. Look at the last episode... put it away for a few months . Then give it another shot.There are outstanding moments...the mine scene for instance! And then there's Colin riding around on those little ponies. Read the film discussion we did about 4 yrs ago. The boss did some extensive research.

Have to go back for an instant to TV and David Caruso -- You have to like red heads, but if you do, and got to see him as John Kelly on NYPD Blue, you would know he can be sexy and full of gritty charm. And he was good as Russell Crowe's sidekick in "Proof of Life." These CSI Series' are not a good test for real acting, IMO. Still, I am glad he has a hit. James Gandolfini got great reviews for the Coen Brothers "The Man Who Wasn't There," and he was the best thing in that awful Pitt/Roberts film, "The Mexican," playing, of all things, a gay hit man. I think he will have a successful film career after Tony Soprano's last goodbye next year. ..now back to our regularly scheduled actor.....

(FanPam) I agree. And I have tried to watch it. Maybe its the storyline, but it's not my cup of tea either, Emma. Do like Colin in it and love his look, but just can't get into the story. Will keep on trying though. (Evelyn) Then give it another shot.There are outstanding moments...the mine scene for instance! And then there's Colin riding around on those little ponies. I have just tried to watch Nostromo (twice) for the first time, this past week...I can't get past the 1st tape. I love ODB to death, but I'm just not getting into it. I read an interview w/ CF and he said he read the book out of pure pig-headedness (or something like that). That he found the book tough...I find the movie tough. Will make it through though!! And about the horses! LOL...could they have been any smaller? And did they give them speed?? Watch their little legs just go! It's very funny! ODB needed a stallion (not a pony)! (FanPam) About TV. Certainly did not mean to imply he should do crap. He wouldn't to begin with IMO. But the opportunity is there for good exposure and it would give us more of a chance to see him. TV is not all bad actors, I enjoy alot of them. The fact that he has a solid movie career will not put him in the same boat as some of them. When I first mentioned James Gandolfini and Keifer Sutherland, I realized I was mentioning actors in series. I don't think ODB should do a series! And like Pam, I don't want him to do crap either! I was thinking more in the line of a P&P2 series (Like 'Band of Brothers' type stuff). If you think about it, his best work (IMO) has been television stuff! Conspiracy, Tumbledown, Donovan Quick, P&P2, LE (BTW, thank you Rika for all the captures! The expression on his face in each one is so funny!)...I want more of that if he is gonna do WAGW and L'dum on the big screen (though I haven't seen WAGW, I just don't think it will be in the same league as Tumbledown). Would have loved to have seen him in "The Forsyte Saga"...

Would have loved to have seen him in "The Forsyte Saga"... As Soames? Ouch:-(( Perhaps Boissney, but that's not the lead.

(Evelyn)Look at the last episode... put it away for a few months . Then give it another shot. Exactly, I enjoyed it the second/third time around. The convoluted plot started to make sense. Also, after awhile, I forgot about the plot and concentrated on the only worthwhile reason I was watching this in the first place. Life was better after that.:-) (FanPam)If you think about it, his best work (IMO) has been television stuff! Conspiracy, Tumbledown, Donovan Quick, P&P2, LE I agree, and a few well done, and well placed TV dramas IMO, wouldn't hurt the film career, but might enhance the recognition of his work. Would have loved to have seen him in "The Forsyte Saga"... It may have held my interest more.

(Tress) Would have loved to have seen him in "The Forsyte Saga". I would have loved to see him in the remake of Rebecca that PBS did in 1997. What a beautiful Maxim de Winter he would have made! Would have been a much better choice than Charles Dance, IMO. Except they couldn't have had Emilia Fox as Mrs. dW, as it would have seemed incestuous since she played Georgiana in P&P2.

(Evelyn) As Soames? Ouch:-(( Perhaps Boissney, but that's not the lead. LOL...I was actually thinking Young Jolyon (don't get me wrong, I really like Rupert Graves in that role)! Boissney would have been good as well... (lindak re: Forsyte Saga) It may have held my interest more. If ODB had been in TFS, I wouldn't be able to tear myself away! I may have even tried to find some reason why Irene was so lovable to so many...instead of just saying 'they're all crazy...must be in the genes!" (KathyF) I would have loved to see him in the remake of Rebecca that PBS did in 1997. What a beautiful Maxim de Winter he would have made! Yes! Though, you're right, it would have been a bit 'awkward' with 'Georgiana' playing Mrs. dW! It would give me a bit of an icky feeling!! ;-)

(Tress) LOL...I was actually thinking Young Jolyon (don't get me wrong, I really like Rupert Graves in that role)! Agreed on both counts. And like Linda said, it would have held my interest more. I kept watching but I've been gradually losing interest. Max de Winter..... ohhhhhh...... YES indeed, that would have been a good role for him. I'm sorry to hear the comments about Nostromo. I have it but haven't watched it yet. Guess I'd better plan on it for some time when I have absolutely nothing to distract me (like that's gonna happen). (Pam) On the train when he goes into the dining car and sits with him, then they both eye the woman who just left him as she walks down the aisle. How cute is that. Yes, I love the timing of that! Jeanie and I had a good laugh at that.

There are movies I have watched because someone said they were great and I hated them and wondered what I was missing (The Piano for instance--and please don't try to convert me.) There are movies I have loved and will play over and over (any number come to mind...P&P---and don't tell me that was TV, Much Ado, Casablanca, etc.) Then there are those I can't say I "enjoyed" but which I count at least...worthwhile? Regarding Nostromo, I don't know what it was about it, but I ....hmmm... I can't say I enjoyed it, but I found it compelling (train wreck?) and I watched it all (it was one of the first I watched, post-obsession) and I think I enjoyed it some because I just purchased it and am anxious to watch it again. This is one of those I put down to ODB's conflicted character enjoyment and really try to focus on the character. I guess to say, to those having trouble watching it, I focused on Charles and Emilia and their relationship. Her needs and expectations, her love and support of him, and his progress ve possession by the mine and the role that was there for him, I found it very watchable. If you read into that the fact I feel they could have totally ignored Nostromo and his story, well, you've got it right. This reminds me, I've not done an archive search for existing notes, now that I have it, maybe I should read them before I re-watch it.

Barb, I'll keep that in mind whenever I get around to watching Nostromo. It sounds like a good way to approach it.

(BarbS)Regarding Nostromo, I don't know what it was about it, but I ....hmmm... I can't say I enjoyed it, but I found it compelling (train wreck?) and I watched it all (it was one of the first I watched, post-obsession) and I think I enjoyed it some because I just purchased it and am anxious to watch it again. This is one of those I put down to ODB's conflicted character enjoyment and really try to focus on the character. I guess to say, to those having trouble watching it, I focused on Charles and Emilia and their relationship. Her needs and expectations, her love and support of him, and his progress ve possession by the mine and the role that was there for him, I found it very watchable. If you read into that the fact I feel they could have totally ignored Nostromo and his story, well, you've got it right. I'm with you Barb, their relationship (and the mine scene)is a good point of focus...Although it is impossible for me to know if it is something I would have watched if ODB had NOT been in it, because I am so skewed when it comes to him and enjoy watching him so much that there never seems to be enough time with him on film...

Glad everybody feels at home here...now if we could only get some of those lurkers out there to come out & join in the fun.

(Tress) Would have loved to have seen him in "The Forsyte Saga"... Me too. What a delicious Soames he would make. (IMO would have to be Soames, meatiest roll and most screen time) Irene would have to do some real acting to justiy leaving him though. Not enough screen time as Bossiney and not good enough roll for him IMO. I think RG is perfect as YJ so would keep him in that part. Soames, IMO, should be played by an actor who can do it all and CF is the one for that. He'd be great as a nasty mean man. He doesn't have to be the hero or be nice all the time, IMO. (Linda) It may have held my interest more. I agree 100%. I would even opt to buy it if he were in it. (Kathy) I would have loved to see him in the remake of Rebecca that PBS did in 1997. What a beautiful Maxim de Winter he would have made! What a perfect roll for him. I agree. If he can hook up with Caroline B who we know Darcy didn't like, he can hook up with Georgiana. I guess not many British actresses out there. And if you would feel "icky" seeing him act with Emilia Fox then its just another tribute to the fine acting jobs they did as Darcy and Georgiana. IMO. In watching all the movies I have of his it's very common to see alot of the same faces in different movies. It doesn't distract from the movie for me, but I'll say to myself he/or she was also in....

(FanPam) In watching all the movies I have of his it's very common to see alot of the same faces in different movies. It doesn't distract from the movie for me, but I'll say to myself he/or she was also in.... It's a good sign (IMO) to see the same faces in his films. Makes you think he isn't a difficult person to work with...Judi Dench seems to enjoy him (even though he is a trout), Rupert gets along with him (now), Irene Jacob (survived L'dum after MLSF)...there are a lot of actors he has worked with 2 or 3 times! I am keeping fingers crossed for TEoR! Though I enjoy him more in dramas, I just love Bridget (and can't get enough of her character (and Mark Darcy)). Still, Emilia Fox as his wife in Rebecca would have been a bit weird for me (like you say, it was the good acting done by both that would make it tough for me to accept them has lovers and not brother/sister)... I have decided that I need to read the Nostromo discussion prior to starting it for the 3rd time! Does anyone remember what topic it was on??

Rika, thanks for the yummy screen captures! The DVDiva strikes again! I didn't realize you live close to Jeanie; when HS opens we'll all have to get together for a screening--I live less than 2 hours drive time north of Nashville. Jst a reminder--TIOBE releases to DVD & video tomorrow!!!!!!

Rika (and Jeanie) Thanks for the LE screen captures and thoughts...Must get LE soon!! How great it must be to watch and rewind with a like minded soul!! I have finally talked my gay friend into a little film fest at my house in a couple of weeks (AZ, AC, undecided on RV...) but I can't REALLY let it all out with multiple rewinds and such as I'm sure you two did...Next premiere, play, or opening...I am kissing frequent flyer miles goodbye and hope to meet some of you there!

(Tress)Though I enjoy him more in dramas, I just love Bridget (and can't get enough of her character (and Mark Darcy)). Absolutely, I'm sitting here lurking and posting with BJD on in the background. It's on Starz right now, and again this evening. You know how that guilt thing is. And, I just never can get enough of Mark Darcy. (Evelyn)Glad everybody feels at home here I felt that from the first day I posted. Thanks to all of you, this is home.

(Tress) Loved his look in Dutch Girls! Was going to suggest to SandyM that her 14 year-old daughter might enjoy that one as well. Very young, very handsome, sweet movie (does have a red light district scene, but fairly tame stuff compared to other 'teen movies'). Coincidentally, I received my recently purchased copy of DG in the mail last Fri and watched it that night. As you say, fairly tame. Am only a bit leery of the scene towards the end where we finally get to see what is in the suitcase that the strange, lecherous classmate with the bad complexion and ugly spectacles has been toting around. All manner of "prosthetic devices" and other things that I don't think I want to try and explain. ;-) (Pam) He just makes it look so easy and that's because he's so exceptional. (Kathy F)I agree totally. Unfortunately, this might keep him from getting the recognition he so richly deserves. IMO, many awards these days are being given to those guilty of overacting. It often seems that an actor who doesn't go "over the top" hasn't a chance of winning an Oscar, Emmy, etc. (I don't know if this is true for Tonys, because I haven't seen anything on Broadway in years.) I always thought the sign of a great actor was his ability to make the audience see him as whatever part he was playing, and not as an actor playing a part. To me, this is what CF does so well. He totally becomes his character, with every look and movement incorporated in his portrayal. A bit off the subject, but I wonder if his ability to so completely become a character, including looks and movements discrete to that character, has something to do with his having a less-than-Hollywood-sized ego. Am wondering if this might (somewhat) explain his ability to throw off his own persona and take on the persona of the character. By the same theory, am wondering if another (less-desirable) symptom of an under-developed ego might be his seeming unwillingness to aggressively pursue projects.

(Moonstar) I didn't realize you live close to Jeanie I don't - I just happened to be in town for the weekend for a convention so we arranged to get together. Incidentally, are y'all okay, with the tornadoes and storms?

(Rika) Incidentally, are y'all okay, with the tornadoes and storms? Thank the Lord yes, but I was at the hospital with my dad when they went through. We were sitting in the ER, he was to be admitted and we were waiting on a room. They had to move EVERY patient whose room was on an exterior wall. We waited in the ER for about 4 hours for a room. My dad was

(ARG....can't believe I sent that off so quick...) ...not a happy camper. But we came through it here ok. Some south of here not so lucky though.

(MariaT) ...Must get LE soon!! Highly recommend it! It has just hours and hours of goodies! ODB is just plain ol' yummy in this one! It may have gotten bad reviews by some, but I don't really know why...thought the story was good, the acting great....and did anyone notice the ferret? Not every movie has a ferret (it was supposed to be a polecat, I think, but they used a domesticated weasel...made me laugh!). (SandyM) As you say, fairly tame. Am only a bit leery of the scene towards the end where we finally get to see what is in the suitcase that the strange, lecherous classmate with the bad complexion and ugly spectacles has been toting around. All manner of "prosthetic devices" and other things that I don't think I want to try and explain. ;-) Ooops! Forgot about that bit! Sorry! Glad you viewed it prior to letting her watch it...what a fun conversation that would have triggered... ;-)

Went to see TIOBE last night - it closes on circuit on Thursday, but I NEED to know - in the singing scene inside, WHAT was he wearing under his pants?

No tornadoes here in Hendersonville, but a few miles north in Portland one touched down and destroyed a home or two. I just feel so sorry for the people east of here who experienced an F5. I think there's only been three F5s ever recorded in Tennessee history. As of last night they still had 15 people missing, and seven dead already, and a multitude seriously injured. They need our prayers, I think. (Leah) Went to see TIOBE last night - it closes on circuit on Thursday, but I NEED to know - in the singing scene inside, WHAT was he wearing under his pants? LOL... a chew toy?

Okay, What's a chew toy?

(SandyM)I received my recently purchased copy of DG in the mail Where did you get it? I can't find it anywhere.

(SandyM)I received my recently purchased copy of DG in the mail (NitaE) Where did you get it? I can't find it anywhere. Ebay. :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(Rika) Incidentally, are y'all okay, with the tornadoes and storms? I live in Hart County, in south central KY, and we got a lot of hail, wind & lightning, but fortunately that's it. A co-worker's nephew, who lives in OH, unfortunately was killed in the same storm system. (Rika) I don't - I just happened to be in town for the weekend for a convention so we arranged to get together. Bummer! I thought if you lived close by, then three of the newbies could get together for a HS screening in March. Oh, well... BTW, anyone know if Karen will be back anytime soon? I sent in my donation, and haven't received a confirmation that it arrived.

(LeahP) Okay, What's a chew toy? LOL...Jeanie was making a funny...chew toy...plastic toy that dogs chew on (they usually squeak, my dogs are crazy for them...). The scene right before ODB walks into the house, there is that dog jumping up and down in front of him (like ODB has one stuffed down his pants)! ;-) Look at Darcy Drool and I think Elizabeth S posted a better picture of it. ;-D Okay, okay, has anyone gotten TIOBE yet? I'm stuck at work and will get it later...any good commentaries or extras??? Hope everyone is okay...between the tornadoes down south and the earthquakes in Alaska...geez! Stay safe!

(Tress) Okay, okay, has anyone gotten TIOBE yet? I'm stuck at work and will get it later...any good commentaries or extras??? What a bummer! Just drove around everywhere on my lunch hour and it seems they've delayed the release of IOBE another week in Canada. I was looking for a copy to buy, but it isn't even for rent this week!!!! ARRRRGGGHH! Up until yesterday, stores thought they were getting it in. Another week of torment!

Can we please keep the TIOBE DVD discussion on the main Firth topic, i.e., 165, because it's . . . current!:-)

Myou, I just spent a few hours driving around Edmonton trying to find tiobe and no luck here. This is what happened when BJD came out so I'll take it as a personal insult to Colin :-( It's this sort of thing that makes me use amazon.com!

(Tress) and did anyone notice the ferret? Not every movie has a ferret (it was supposed to be a polecat, I think, but they used a domesticated weasel...made me laugh!). YES! What was the deal with that? "Here, Mr. Firth, please hop into this hole in the ground and lie down.... now, somebody, cue the ferret."

(Rika) "Here, Mr. Firth, please hop into this hole in the ground and lie down.... now, somebody, cue the ferret." Are polecats popular in Europe (was ODB supposed to be in France at the time)? I mean, do they run around like squirrels? I don't know, and the whole thing is too funny to me. Why a ferret/polecat? Rats, maybe, or mice...still, I would have gladly been the ferret wrangler on that set..."Don't panic, Mr. Firth, he won't bite...I'll just place him here, on your belly." ;-)

(Tress) (was ODB supposed to be in France at the time)? Yes, he was supposed to be in France. I couldn't figure out what the animal was for either, unless in the real war it was supposed to be a rat crawling in the trenches, possibility, and no one would film with a rat so they used a stunt rat. Only thing I can think of.

(LeahP)Went to see TIOBE last night - it closes on circuit on Thursday, but I NEED to know - in the singing scene inside, WHAT was he wearing under his pants? A microphone, perhaps? ;-)

(LeahP)Went to see TIOBE last night - it closes on circuit on Thursday, but I NEED to know - in the singing scene inside, WHAT was he wearing under his pants? Seems that I need to explain what I saw - two pairs of pants - if no one else saw this, I can understand, I only picked it up on the 4th viewing, (what with face and hands to look out for!) - but it looked so ... (here I am at a total loss for words...)

I have a general question (hope this is the proper topic) to pose. Does anyone else ever find themselves using phrases from ODB's movies when interacting with others? I find these pop into my mind often. For instance, this year my DH and celebrated our 18th wedding anniversary. When asked by others which anniversary this year was, my mind immediately fixed upon the argument between Sarah and Paul in FP where he shouts "Eighteen years! Eighteen f***ing YEARS!!! Of course, could not actually say this, but it did give me an internal chuckle. Or when someone is being unknowingly rude, I want to say "Have a care, Dawkins", although am sure the person would have no idea what I am talking about. Am I the only one this happens too?

(Sandy m) Does anyone else ever find themselves using phrases from ODB's movies when interacting with others? "Nevah" "Too many ladies.." "What's fifty miles of a good road.." "On foot?"..(in Lizzie mode)"As you see..."

(SandyM) Does anyone else ever find themselves using phrases from ODB's movies when interacting with others? "Nevah" (an all purpose one that is used daily) "Her/his (fill in the blank) Louisa!" (use this almost daily) "Impossible" (the way Lizzie says it when she hears of Charlotte's engagement) "Go and have a lie down" (Is this from LE? I think someone was saying it earlier this week...this one has been big for a couple months with me) "F**k" (okay, I'll blame Paul Ashworth, but have been using this one for years..I have a potty mouth) There are many others, but I cannot think of them all...mostly from FP and P&P2. There are many I don't say aloud, but think of all the time...someone around me will say something and it triggers a CF Flashback...;-) (FanPam) I couldn't figure out what the animal was for either, unless in the real war it was supposed to be a rat crawling in the trenches, possibility, and no one would film with a rat so they used a stunt rat. Only thing I can think of. LOL....Stunt rat!! That's funny! Maybe ODB doesn't like rodents, so they substituted the little domesticated weasel...there were rats in "Hostages" though (and I remember a roach or something similiar falling on ODB at one point as well, so I cannot imagine he is too squeamish). A preference by the director perhaps. Maybe someone's pet on the set! "Bring in Mikey's ferret! We'll use him in the trenches!" ;-)

(Sandy m) Does anyone else ever find themselves using phrases from ODB's movies when interacting with others? Sandy, I may not say it out loud (they already think I am a loon, esp. the DH..) but you can be sure those phrases are always lurking in the backround..some stick in your head and you love, like "Fraser Pettigrew!" some you wish you could get rid of , such as "It's soooo refreshing!". Obviously any phrase of ODB's is welcome to lodge itself in my mind as I have no problem hearing that voice regardless of the character!

I haven't seen LE but (domesticated) ferrets in France are used to hunt for rabbits... You send them on one side of the rabbit hole and put a bag at the other entrance. So think of ODB as a bunny! :)

(Tress) "Go and have a lie down" (Is this from LE? I think someone was saying it earlier this week...this one has been big for a couple months with me) It may also be from another movie, but I know it's part of the Jack/Algy banter during the closing credits of TIOBE.

(Rika) It may also be from another movie, but I know it's part of the Jack/Algy banter during the closing credits of TIOBE. LOL...And that is where I got it! I bought the CD (I am a true CF geek) just for the two serenades. I play it on a loop (just those two songs) while I get ready in the morning! "Why don't you go and have a lie down old man while I finish this bit?" "Go easy dear fellow" "Watch out I'm coming through"...all great lines! I obviously needed my latte prior to posting and you can tell I didn't listen to that particular CD this morning...I was listening to Bridget Jones 2 just to mix things up a bit...(which I recommend if anyone hasn't gotten that one. It has more songs from the film...Van Morrison on this one, plus an accoustic version of one of the songs on the first CD).

(mari)Can we please keep the TIOBE DVD discussion on the main Firth topic, i.e., 165, because it's . . . current!:-) (doing horrible german accent) Paaapahs... do you havez yourrr paapahs? (running away and hiding from Mari) ;-) =PPP I thought TIOBE wouldn't belong in "current thread", frauline,because it's already done its circuit at the theaters.. (confusion reigns again) (Sandy m) Does anyone else ever find themselves using phrases from ODB's movies when interacting with others? Wot?

(SandyM) Does anyone else ever find themselves using phrases from ODB's movies when interacting with others? Just about constantly! I say them out loud whenever they can possibly be fitted into the conversation, and then I'm so pleased with myself for having snuck another one in! I use a lot from FP (the 18 years is a favorite, and everything is "poxy"), and also love to quote from P&P2. "Have a care, Dawkins" and "Drive on, Rossiter" are two favorites of mine, as well as "happy thought, indeed!"

(KathyF...and everything is "poxy" I use "poxy" as well! FP is a great film for increasing your slang vocabulary. Yob, Axminster, got the hump...I found a site a while back that explains a lot of the slang and gives a run down of some of the Arsenal players: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/9482/gloss.html

(running away and hiding from Mari) ;-) =PPP LOL, no need to run from me, Jeanie. If it ain't Firth, I don't chase it.;-) We've had so little news recently and 165 looked lonely. The DVD and its special features really are *new.*

(SandyM) Does anyone else ever find themselves using phrases from ODB's movies when interacting with others? Crikey! So it would seem.

(Sandy) I have a general question (hope this is the proper topic) to pose. Does anyone else ever find themselves using phrases from ODB's movies when interacting with others? Not only do I quote lines, I speak with the same inflections, like half an English accent. It's like learning a language while you sleep. Go to sleep to a video and wake up with an accent. I like the look of perplexity on my kids faces when I really get into it on purpose. Such fun. *f* and bollicks are favorites too.

(FanPam) Such fun. *f* and bollicks are favorites too Oh yeah...When my phone rings for the umpteenth time at work I also favor "would you please please please just ***king ***k off" . But of course with his voice it sounds glorious...

Whew! It isn't only me, then. In present company, I am suddenly feeling *almost* normal. But don't despair. It will pass--no doubt more quickly than it should). :-D

SandyM) Does anyone else ever find themselves using phrases from ODB's movies when interacting with others? A small sampling: "I'm quite put out!" "Wot?!" "Eighteen (f***ing) years!"---for use with or without the f**k "It's not the smoking, it's the suckiness" (I think that's how it goes; haven't been able to watch FP for a while due to cranky DVD) "Chech-ny-AH!" (Tress)someone around me will say something and it triggers a CF Flashback...;-) LOL! That happens to me ALL the time!

(Moonstar) "It's not the smoking, it's the suckiness" "It's not the smoking, Steve. It's the crapness." One of my favorites, also (and I was just saying it about 3 minutes ago). How could I have forgotten "bollocks!"? I usually link it together with "poxy" if I'm really peeved. And of course, one I used all the time at work -- "I shall conquer this!"

(Sandy m) Does anyone else ever find themselves using phrases from ODB's movies when interacting with others? I often call the boss... ... "Foolish antelope".When SLOW was new, we used to say all those funny African sayings that Nimi's mom tells her. Jack to Miss Prism: "Mothah" "Bugger Off"is a fave.

Re phrases: I use "So-and-so is all politeness" and "I am all astonishment" a lot. Also, definitely "Happy thought indeed." Also, "You delight in vexing me." Unfortunately, the all-too-frequent rejoinder is "And yet I am unmoved." (Got a real smarty-aleck for a DH.) I also use "I'm sure I should love sea-bathing" or whatever (ala Lydia.) I find this is most effective when I can give it a good chest heave...oh yeah, and I mostly just use this on the DH :-D I have reached the conclusion my education is sadly limited as I have not yet seen SLOW. "Foolish antelope?" I think I can hardly wait. The really scary thing? I was informed recently that something was "Capital, capital" and that "Life holds few distinctions but we have the silliest boy..." I think I need to obsess more privately in the future.

My most-used: "Where are all the other tarts and vicars?" Wot, you don't think there's much call for that?;-)

(Mari), My most-used: "Where are all the other tarts and vicars?" Wot, you don't think there's much call for that?;-) LOL! Once a paaarty girl always a paaaarty girl. ;-D

(Sandy) Does anyone else ever find themselves using phrases from ODB's movies when interacting with others? So it would seem...but out loud? Only at home (with my cats), LOL. Chech-ny-AH! Bolllocks! (when the cats have knocked something down) I am all astonishment (when I come home and the cats have knocked *many* things down);-) This makes me sound like a certifiable cat lady, LOL! Actually I use a bunch of phrases amongst people, but not usually so they can hear me. Can't bear to explain the origin *every* time. ;)

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My contribution to oft used phrases... Hot pot's reeeeady (or substitute some other word for hot pot as is required eg "dinner's,") and said with the same voice inflection. Favourite of my DH - "Ooh Jones" when I am wearing my stomach and thigh holding in granny pants Lots of others - but can never think of them when you want to !!!

Hot pot's reeeeady (or substitute some other word for hot pot as is required eg "dinner's,") and said with the same voice inflection. Nevah heard this one before - where does it come from? ps I've only seen VERY few.

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(Me) "It's not the smoking, it's the suckiness" (KathyF) "It's not the smoking, Steve. It's the crapness." One of my favorites, also (and I was just saying it about 3 minutes ago). I knew someone would be able to correct me; thanks! Last year, I bought FP from a Canadian retailer off the 'net & lately my DVD player won't play it; so, I'm a little rusty on my FP references. (BarbS)Unfortunately, the all-too-frequent rejoinder is "And yet I am unmoved." LOL! A DH who can quote it right back to you? I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. (annea)Hot pot's reeeeady (or substitute some other word for hot pot as is required eg "dinner's,") and said with the same voice inflection. That one's a mystery to me as well. Please enlighten!

Hot pot's reeeeady (or substitute some other word for hot pot as is required eg "dinner's,") and said with the same voice inflection. LeahP: Nevah heard this one before - where does it come from? ps I've only seen VERY few Leah, this is from MLSF - not said by CF but by his grandmother-in-law

(Sandy) Does anyone else ever find themselves using phrases from ODB's movies when interacting with others? A few little confessions here in the same vein...I also like to do the Elizabeth skip run thing from the great dane scene when I cross my lawn to get the mail aaaannnd when I am on the treadmill at the gym I favor the BJ walk with the groceries (sans the tuna) while thinking of that fun Artful Dodger song in my head. And lastly, whenever going up stairs it is v.v. important to wear a smug little grin and wiggle about a bit as BJ does after giving notive to DC and the bit about Sadam's ass...

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(Moonstar) I knew someone would be able to correct me; thanks! Last year, I bought FP from a Canadian retailer off the 'net & lately my DVD player won't play it; so, I'm a little rusty on my FP references. As Pam and I are currently plodding along in the world's slowest (my fault, entirely) email discussion of FP, I'm pretty familiar with the dialogue. Then, too, this has been my favorite line of the film ever since I first saw it. Don't know why. It cracked me up then and it continues to amuse me each time.

(KathyF) "It's not the smoking, Steve. It's the crapness." One of my favorites, also (and I was just saying it about 3 minutes ago). That's one of my favorites as well...along with the Mark Strong comment near the end..."Jes*s Paul! You need medical help. You've got some kind of disease that turns people into miserable bastards!" That whole scene just kills me...I'm a big fan of the dialogue in FP. Carpeting the ceilings, men as colonizers, sister's don't have seasons (ODB's 'yeah, whatever' response/delivery is too funny after that line)....good stuff.

I use FP dialogue all the time like: I'd pay extra Eighteen years, eighteen, f***ing years (DH and I were married 18 yrs in July that line was in my head all week) That was just a one-off And my favorite streak of bad language: S**t, F**k, Bollocks (when things go really bad, or I bump my toe on a chair-which I do several times a week. BTW, the FP soundtrack has wonderful voice overs from the film. My daughter always says, Mom, it sounds like Colin is in the back seat and is having a conversation in our car. Play it loud enough, and you'd swear he's talking to you. I do that several times a week, too:-) and no one would film with a rat so they used a stunt rat.

(lindak) BTW, the FP soundtrack has wonderful voice overs from the film. My daughter always says, Mom, it sounds like Colin is in the back seat and is having a conversation in our car. Play it loud enough, and you'd swear he's talking to you. I do that several times a week, too:-) Oh my! I think I'll have to run over to Amazon & order a copy just for the voice-overs! LOL about your daughter calling him Colin, like he's an old friend. Are you training her to like 6"1", curly-haired, dark-eyed men? :)

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(Sandy)Does anyone else ever find themselves using phrases from ODB's movies when interacting with others? I must "confess" I do this a lot too. "I long for a ________" (fill in blank for what I long for, i.e. vacation, dinner chef, new CF movie). "My feelings are quite the opposite." BTW, I loved your hairless discussions too. I was LOL and nodding my head while reading those! All I can say is... "This is Bridget Jones searching for more hair on arms, legs, and chest ;-)."

(Maria T) ...aaaannnd when I am on the treadmill at the gym I favor the BJ walk with the groceries (sans the tuna) while thinking of that fun Artful Dodger song in my head... The coolest thing was that when I first moved to London in August, I was grocery shopping and they actually played that Artful Dodger song over the loudspeaker - I almost got emotional about the whole thing, except I knew I would have looked a little weird about it. Never mind repeating movie lines (of which the whole Bridget script is my favorite repertoire), how about the fact that I just bought myself some Milk Tray! What kind of snack food is that?! And who else would buy something just for the literary/movie reference? Sorry, am asking the wrong people =).

(EmmaB) And who else would buy something just for the literary/movie reference? I almost did you one better. I was in a public loo in Cambridge this summer, and there was a Durex machine on the wall. I seriously thought about making a purchase, and it would have been entirely as a souvenir with an FP connection!

(EmmaB) And who else would buy something just for the literary/movie reference? (KathyF)...and there was a Durex machine on the wall. I seriously thought about making a purchase, and it would have been entirely as a souvenir with an FP connection! LOL...Kathy! You didn't buy one?? I know this is not the same as buying something, but I have thought that I would like to have a turkey curry buffet (complete with mini-gherkins and stuffed olives)...I did, however, buy "The Famished Road" by Ben Okri because Mark Darcy mentioned reading it (I can't remember which BJ book...though)...and of course, I haven't read it yet. ;-)

(Tress) LOL...Kathy! You didn't buy one?? Believe me, I was very tempted. But the thought of going through customs with it scared me a little, so I backed off. Lucky for me, because guess who ended up being one of the lucky ones who was randomly pulled aside, frisked, purse completely emptied and searched with the little wand! I would have been so embarrassed!

(Moonstar)LOL about your daughter calling him Colin, like he's an old friend. Are you training her to like 6"1", curly-haired, dark-eyed men? :) Just a very specific 6'1", curly-haired, dark-eyed man:-) (EmmaB) And who else would buy something just for the literary/movie reference? Does a grey turtleneck sweater count? Saw one just a few days after I watched BJD for the first time,(not till last January), and I had to have it. Everytime I wear it I think of Mark Darcy. Come to think of it, I think of Mark Darcy a lot, with or without the sweater.

(EmmaB)And who else would buy something just for the literary/movie reference? It's bad enough that I'm inspired to buy things referenced in movies, but I even got the Mango Chutney (Sharwood's, of course) from Lisa's UMS story. And it's very good mixed with a little barbecue sauce and spread on grilled pork chops, by the way :-)

(moonstar) Oh my! I think I'll have to run over to Amazon & order a copy just for the voice-overs! Just an FYI moonstar...there is one on ebay right now (I'm trying to find a FP screenplay and it came up in my search). It's listed at about 4.50 (significantly cheaper than Amazon), but has 6 days left (no bids). BTW, the voice-overs alone are worth it (well, it also has The Who and Van Morrison...)!

(Tress)I'm trying to find a FP screenplay Hope you find it, I got one in excellent condition from e-bay last spring. And Moonstar, if you can pick up the soundtrack at 4.50 go for it, the one I purchased from Amazon was 32.00! But worth every poxy penny.:-)

Dorine said: "Actually I use a bunch of phrases amongst people, but not usually so they can hear me. Can't bear to explain the origin *every* time. ;)" That's right, you've got to vary the answers, haven't you? ;-) Actually, I find myself having CF "flashbacks" constantly! Sometimes I'll have one of those deja vu moments and it takes me 20 or 30 seconds to figure out why - and it's always because someone's said something which resembles a line from one of his movies... it's almost an illness, I tell you!

(Linda) And Moonstar, if you can pick up the soundtrack at 4.50 go for it, the one I purchased from Amazon was 32.00! But worth every poxy penny.:-) Amen, Moonstar, 4.50 would be an incredible price. But if there are six days to go in the auction, anything can happen.

(Jane) Actually, I find myself having CF "flashbacks" constantly! LOL, I thought it was just me! Should've known better. Thanks for the info on the FP soundtrack. $4.50 is a bargain, but in six days who knows what it'll be like; I'll keep an eye on it.

(Jane) Actually, I find myself having CF "flashbacks" constantly! (Moonstar) LOL, I thought it was just me! Should've known better. I had sort of a flashback (it was a "flash" anyway!) in an odd situation. I was just trained by my diocese to be able to take Communion to shut ins. There was a whole group of us from all over the diocese for training, it was a special thing to be part of. I had not made special notice of one of the other people there until in a group for role-play, he smiled. "OMG, he reminds me of someone...who?!" Then it hit me....the dimples, the nose, the eyes, he looked like ODB! But he had short hair...clipped short the way we were talking about CF maybe doing some day. Well, I will just say I made a masterful effort to wrench my attention back to the task at hand, but not before deciding I could be a little more flexible on ODB's possible future hair styles!

(Leah)Had to watch this again. I keep forgetting to watch his hands, and then I have to rewind and remember to watch again, and then I miss it and have to watch it again... Do I have a problem? Of course, as you well know, I love his hands, so I noticed the thumb rubbing thing. Karalou, a fanfic writer, picked up on that little nuance as well, because she mentions Darcy's nervous habit several times in her "Assumed" stories... "Georgiana looked over at her brother, who seemed quite calm, except for the nervous rubbing together of his thumb and index finger. It was a habit she had come to recognize as meaning that although he appeared calm on the outside, on the inside he was quite anxious." Barb, if Catholic men often look like you know who, then I'm tempted to convert. LOL! Knowing my luck, though, they'd all turn out to be priests.

(Barb S) Then it hit me....the dimples, the nose, the eyes, he looked like ODB! But he had short hair...clipped short the way we were talking about CF maybe doing some day. I'm tellin' ya...he'ld look REALLY good with the short hair! Lucky you to have a 'double' sighting! I have never had one of those even. There are two people at work who keep telling me that one of the research engineers looks like ODB...I laugh at them, cuz I know him fairly well (he's a good friend of the DH)...I keep telling them, "No, it's Colin Firth I like, Aaron looks like Dougray Scott!"...then I got, "Who is DS?" (Jeanie) Of course, as you well know, I love his hands, so I noticed the thumb rubbing thing. I'm big on the digits too! I watch ODB's hands and feet all the time (even to distraction, as I sometimes miss his face if his hands are doing something interesting). The thumb rub is one of my favorite things about the letter writing scene. I also like watching his hands as he talks to Lizzie at Pemberly (after the 'wet shirt' scene) as they walk. Anytime he brings them up to his face *sigh*...and my hand obsession is why I noticed that he tends to hug his female co-stars under their armpits, not around the shoulders...loved watching his hand in TIOBE when he catches the rose and holds it out to Algy (during dance hall scene). His thumb has a cool little bend in it... Good foot scenes?? Watch his feet in PM, while he sits at the piano...spreads his toes (love this). In FF (now I'm listing all his good movies, notice?), when he is talking to Billy Zane (ODB is leaning back against a wall), he keeps 'wiggling' his toes...(and as an aside, I also noticed he didn't wash his hands after he pee'd in this movie...thinking about the hands again).

(Tress) Good foot scenes?? Watch his feet in PM, while he sits at the piano...spreads his toes (love this). In FF (now I'm listing all his good movies, notice?), when he is talking to Billy Zane (ODB is leaning back against a wall), he keeps 'wiggling' his toes Ooohh!! I'm a big big of the digits myself! Also in FF when he comes down the stairs barefoot there is a nice place to stop and examine the "dogs"...

(Barb) OMG, he reminds me of someone...who?!" Then it hit me....the dimples, the nose, the eyes, he looked like ODB! LOL Did you bring this to his attention. Did you get his name and number?

(Tress) Good foot scenes?? Watch his feet in PM, Like feet? You would have hit the jackpot in 3DOR. He kept wrapping his feet around the bar stool legs.I knudged Karen...but she had already hit on that. He has loooong toes...like a gorilla.

(Pam) LOL Did you bring this to his attention. Did you get his name and number? LOLing at the very thought of it...No, I did not mention it, the uh, situation was hardly right for it (OK, maybe I do remember his name) though I was so startled at first, acting normal was the main thing on my mind. Besides, there are original works of art and then there are reasonable facsimiles. And I'm fairly sure we are both married...LOL

For all you digit demons, toe jammers, and piggie lovers:

(Evelyn) You would have hit the jackpot in 3DOR. He kept wrapping his feet around the bar stool legs.I knudged Karen...but she had already hit on that. He has loooong toes...like a gorilla. Lucky, lucky ladies!! I would have had to have been carried out of there (just imagining ODB's feet wrapped around a bar stool makes me light-headed)...love his gorilla feet... (Barb S)...there are original works of art and then there are reasonable facsimiles. Exactly! It may be close but it just isn't 'da man'. And (with me anyway), I need that voice. I seem to respond to that range his voice is in (much like a dog whistle for me). ;-) Thank you Mari!! As I type this, all I can see are his feet. Love the half hidden foot, the bent big toe *sigh*

(Mari)For all you digit demons, toe jammers, and piggie lovers: LOL. Thanks, Mari, and Tress, I can see just the toes as I type this too. OOHH. (Evelyn)He kept wrapping his feet around the bar stool legs. Why do I have this sudden urge to be a bar stool? As for sexy hands...His first scene in SLOW just shows his hands typing on a lap top. I could replay that over and over. I noticed the little dent in his thumb, too. V.V. sensual. Makes me want to run my fingers over it.

(Evelyn) He has loooong toes...like a gorilla. Mmmmmmm...they look like hors D'oeuvres to me... (Tress) Lucky, lucky ladies!! I would have had to have been carried out of there (just imagining ODB's feet wrapped around a bar stool makes me light-headed)...love his gorilla feet... ditto (Mari) For all you digit demons, toe jammers, and piggie lovers: Mari, thanks for the picture! But a clarifying point...It is only ODB's toes which are so particularly appealing, I am always partial to men's hands but the feet, Good God! ew!! He is the exception...

For all the foot lovers (including yours truly), there's a B&W pic of him sitting on the sand in front of a boat, I think, that I just adore. First thing I noticed were the feet, then the big grin, then....everything. It's one of my favorites. ;-) Anybody have that? I think someone put it up a little while ago somewhere, but I don't know who and where. (Tress) Love the half hidden foot, the bent big toe *sigh* I love that, too. Wonder if he does that a lot. I tend to do that when I'm sitting and occasionally standing in barefeet...curl all my toes under, usually alternating both feet. Have done that since I was a child. Very odd. ;-) Thanks for the pic, Mari.

Oh, Mari, Mari! Thank you! Sigh....... (Tress)...(and as an aside, I also noticed he didn't wash his hands after he pee'd in this movie...thinking about the hands again). Well, that was a scary place. I'm sure neither of the guys wanted to spend a millisecond longer in that men's room than was absolutely necessary.

(Dorine)there's a B&W pic of him sitting on the sand in front of a boat, Anybody have that? I think someone put it up a little while ago somewhere, but I don't know who and where. Great, Dorine. You get me all fired up like you were going to post the picture, then, pfft, nothing, nada. Sheesh.

(Dorine)...there's a B&W pic of him sitting on the sand in front of a boat, I think, that I just adore. First thing I noticed were the feet... Anybody have that? I think someone put it up a little while ago somewhere, but I don't know who and where. I remember the picture well! It was my 'welcome' picture and Elizabeth posted it back on Topic 163. I have it at home on my computer, and if I knew how to do anything cool, I would post it for you, but I am hopelessly graphically challenged...sorry. And you are right....great toe picture! (Rika) Well, that was a scary place. I'm sure neither of the guys wanted to spend a millisecond longer in that men's room than was absolutely necessary. He was forgiven the second after it happened! ;-)

Ok, because I love you all so much and because he's showing his lil gorilla piggies, here we go!

Thank you Jeanie, Now I can forgive Dorine. The toes are wonderful, but so is the smile. But, wait. Look at the length of the fingers.hmmmmmmmm.yum. If it's true what they say. Can you imagine!

Thanks Jeanie! (lindak) But, wait. Look at the length of the fingers.hmmmmmmmm.yum. If it's true what they say. Can you imagine! This was talked about last night on MTV (yes, I watch MTV). A show on urban myths. They consulted a urologist, brought in 4 guys (with various shoe sizes) and did a little study. The shoe size has nothing to do with the other (thought this was funny to 'watch'), but the urologist did note that in his 20+ years of experience, he has noted that size of fingers does appear to have a correlation. Just something to think about as we gaze at the picture...(sorry, if this went a bit off-sides) ;-) And keep in mind this is MTV!

(Tress) in his 20+ years of experience, he has noted that size of fingers does appear to have a correlation I told ya!! Didn't I tell ya! Heehee....now I have independent corroboration. I mean, the madam was one thing but a *urologist*! HE would know. But makes ya wonder, what he's doin' looking? Thank you Jeanie, that picture is soooo good for so many different reasons.

Thanks Jeanie for posting that pic. It's nice to see it appear every once in a while. Maybe even more that that. ;-) Psst, Linda! I would've posted it if I'd had time to look for it before I went out. ;-)

Oooh, Jeanie! I just love that picture! Thanks so much!

Great picture Jeanie. Thanks. I think a Urologist has to look, doesn't he Barb. It's a part (LOL) of the job. Unfortunately all I do is imagine but have the gut feeling he is no small disappointment in that area -;)

Great conversations today, both here and over on 165!! But, wait. Look at the length of the fingers.hmmmmmmmm.yum. If it's true what they say. Can you imagine! Actually, since this topic is being addressed (knew you guys would get around to it sooner rather than later!), my workmate, who has a science degree in biochemistry and has studied genetics comprehensively, has stated in no uncertain terms that there is a direct correlation between the two - the gene which controls one also controls the other. So there you go - it's scientific fact. So every time I see those beautiful hands, with their LOOOOOONG (and rather SUBSTANTIAL) fingers, I can't help but imagine.... Is it hot in here?? *LOL* And the image of this man dancing in tight black leather pants in front of a mirror is almost too much to bear! We don't get HP until Nov 28, and there's no guarantee whatsoever that the WAGW trailer will be included, and at $15 for a ticket, that's a gamble, isn't it? Oh well, it's a gamble I'll just have to take...

(Jane)Is it hot in here?? *LOL* It's always hot in here.

(FanPam) Unfortunately all I do is imagine but have the gut feeling he is no small disappointment in that area -;) I do a lot of imagining as well...but there are some movies, were, well, you just can't help but notice! I think you're right. He wouldn't disappoint! ;-) I often wonder if he's boxers or briefs...ohhh...the things that fill my day! ;-D

A Reminder -- On Bravo in the USA tonight - Behind the scenes: "The English Patient" Original Airdate: November 25, 2002. Future Airings: Page to Screen, Bravo Nov 18 11:00pm Page to Screen, Bravo Nov 19 04:00pm Page to Screen, Bravo Nov 24 12:00pm Page to Screen, Bravo Nov 25 08:00pm Page to Screen, Bravo Nov 25 11:00pm

Thank you, Murph. Glad to see this highlighted, although I consider this NEWS! ;-) (Although am curious how something with an original airdate of 11/25/02 can have future airdates in the past?) My TV Guide shows From Page to Screen at 7:00pm (CST) tonight but gives no info on which movie is being discussed.

The Bravo website says TEP tonight at 7 & 10 Central http://bravotv.com/pagetoscreen/english.php Thanks Murph for the heads-up. My favorite film of all time;-))

Thanks for the heads up Murph.

Thanks for the link Evelyn (One of my favorite films too). I see that 12/3 is LA Confidential. Karen - That scheduling sequence is very strange, I agree. Do you want to move this to NEWS? Maybe more will see it over there.

I tuned in late, but can catch the re-run. Any Colin in it?

Nope, except for when he's crashing the plane. Not a mention. He wasn't one of the key characters they discussed. Interesting though, but not essential viewing.

Thanks for headsup on TEP as I taped it. Disappointed he wasn't in it.

I really don't know where to post this... could be "recent Colin", "HP", here, or Odds & Ends.. I made my daughter guess a number between one and four, so here I am. LOL! According to my "Entertainment Weekly", and someone else might've already posted about this, ODB and Ms. Revolta spent some time on the HP set. "After a word with his 13-year-old star, Columbus (the director) moves back behind a video monitor, offering a gentle smile to a gaggle of visitors. (Today's guests: Kelly Preston and Colin Firth, who are shooting the drama WAGW nearby) (shrugging) Has Sirius been cast? If you know, post answer at the HP thread.

Whoops, just realized someone has already reported the thing from Entertainment Weekly. I was going to call attention over here, though, for you ladies who feel that ODB needs a tan. I say, after working many years in a plastic surgeon's (who specialized in skin care) office, that no one needs a tan. Let him use the fake stuff, but tanning bed big no-no! Beside's, like me.. when his hair isn't dyed darker, he could really be considered a red head... tanning bed HEAP BIG No-No for Red HEAD! (pondering why I've suddenly become Tonto) =) Unless, of course, you just want him to turn up with melanoma and die, or be permanently disfigured. (how I'm coming with my guilt trips, Rika.. improving, aren't I.. muhahahahahaha!) (Linda from the current thread) I will say that tight leather pants will definitely allow us to continue our left/right discussions with greater clarity. LOL! Just like a "Latte' Lady" to find, yet, another reason to be happy about this carrying on in front of a mirror! NEW CROTCH SCENES!!!! I can just see us now, once this movie is on DVD (which will probably be sooner than many... yes, I know, I argued the point on the current thread the other day, but I don't really believe this movie is going to be great, I was simply tired of the negativity and decided to take the opposite side just to be contentious.LOL)going forward and back.. "Ok, dear, stop the film NOW!.. Ok, whad'dya think?.. Which side is his googie residing? Is that a shadow???" (nose against the screen)

(Jeanie) Beside's, like me.. when his hair isn't dyed darker, he could really be considered a red head... tanning bed HEAP BIG No-No for Red HEAD! (pondering why I've suddenly become Tonto) =) LOL.....You're right, Tonto! He is mighty fair...Tanning bed in general a big no-no! I did enjoy the pics at the GQ Awards, thought that the bit of sun he had made him look absolutely gorgeous....but, no, I do not want him to get melanoma (or any other oma for that matter). Just had to poke a bit of fun at his pale-ness (a pallor that I replicate as well). ;-) (Jeanie) "Ok, dear, stop the film NOW!.. Ok, whad'dya think?.. Which side is his googie residing? Is that a shadow???" (nose against the screen) ROTFL....the DVD is going to be bought by pre-teen girls (who, if raised properly, will keep this DVD and treasure it forever) and grown women. I have no children at home and absolutely no excuse (except my obsession) to buy this DVD when it comes out....but I will have a copy. And enjoy every slo-mo, freeze frame, zoom minute of it!!! Marketing genius (three cheers to Warner Bros)!!! "Get that Firth guy! The ladies love him...we'll sell billions of DVDs! Get him in leather pants! It'll be better than that time he dove into the water (okay, okay...that's a bit far fetched..)!!"

(Jeanie) Which side is his googie residing? Oh my mercy, had I read that 10 minutes later, you might have been responsible for my demise. Lunch is on the way. One of our favorite restaurants is called Googies. My order is for an original Googie (gourmet burgers to die for.) If I had not been anticipating lunch by the smallest margin and actually checked the boards with lunch in front of me, the consequences might have been disastrous! (Googie? Have never heard it called that before!)

(Jeanie) Which side is his googie residing? Is that a shadow???" (nose against the screen) Googie?! That's a new one on me. Love it! Nose against the screen? Nope, because up that close I'm positively blind, but I'll hover about two feet away with remote in hand... (Tress) I have no children at home and absolutely no excuse (except my obsession) to buy this DVD when it comes out....but I will have a copy. And enjoy every slo-mo, freeze frame, zoom minute of it!!! Marketing genius (three cheers to Warner Bros)!!! I'm with you!! As soon as I saw those pics, I envisioned myself making an indepth DVD slo-mo study! ;-) (Jeanie) no one needs a tan Heavens, no! Although a slight tan looks nice, anything more than that on a fair-skinned person makes me extremely nervous and I want to get on my anti-tan, melanoma soapbox. I spent way too much time in the sun as a youngster (with no sunblock), and regret it now. A pale ODB is just fine with me!

(Jeanie) Which side is his googie residing? (Kathy) Googie?! That's a new one on me. ... Nose against the screen? Nope... but I'll hover about two feet away with remote in hand... LOLing at you all...BTW, my Original Googie burger is wonderful. The burger place has a website, given Kathy's description of herself watching the screen, thought I'd post the URL, we could maybe latch onto the logo for ourselves, it certainly seems appropriate! www.gottagettagoogie.com (gotta love the name!)

I love it, Barb! What a great logo, and so apropos! The rolling eyes, the tongue licking the lips! With a little modification, it would be perfect for our group of HOBWRs (horny broads with remotes).

Sorry, that was horny Old broads. Meant to take out the O, because some of us aren't!

LOL!!! You guys are cracking me up...I'm at work! Shut up! Am very busy and important! ;-D Gotta get me a googie!

(Barb)Original Googie burger is wonderful. ROFL!!! Yes, I bet it was.. which side was the mayo on? Actually, when Sam became old enough to say anything he began calling his.. ummm... extra appendage that none of us, here, have (hopefully).. lol) a googie. So, as the younger boys were born that's all we called it. Sam was appalled with me when he realized one day in kindergarten that it wasn't actually called a "googie" but something else! Tress, Barb, Kathy.. I guess we'll have to form another "subgroup" of firthettes for you.. I think "Googie Girls" would suit, whad'dya think?

(Barb) Original Googie burger is wonderful. (Jeanie) ROFL!!! Yes, I bet it was.. which side was the mayo on? And I want to know if that was a 1/4 lb Googie or a 1/2 lb Googie??? ;-D I've been a "Googie Girl" for a long time...just didn't know it had a name!

(Tress -- who is evidently no longer at work or who is done being important! ;-P) And I want to know if that was a 1/4 lb Googie or a 1/2 lb Googie??? ;-D Full size dear, full size, in all its lip-licking glory!

I just wrongly posted this on 165: Anyone watch the Bravo "Stage to Screen" last night? Good program with lots of the book...good comments by the cast and crew.....except for the gentleman my husband calls the "forgotten man." If it weren't for a very quick pic of the airplane crashing, you would never know Colin Firth was even in the movie. Still it was good to see it all again. Best explanation I have heard for awhile why the script was altered from the book - i.e. taking away the book's ending and relegating Kip to a more minor role. Kip was the major character in the book. Ondaatje explained that the reason Kip left Hannah in the book was because he read about the atomic bomb dropping on Japan and had to go home to his Asian roots. Minghella wanted the "family feeling" among the movie's groups to stay in the forefront, and felt that bringing in the atomic bomb broadened and changed the focus on the characters. Worth seeing if you can. It is repeated several times.

(Jeanie) I think "Googie Girls" would suit, whad'dya think? Well, for the last 20-something years I've referred to myself as a Goober. I guess now I'll be a Googie Goober. Sam became old enough to say anything he began calling his.. ummm... extra appendage that none of us, here, have (hopefully).. lol) a googie. You aren't going to tell Sam that his EA is now Drool material, are you?

(BarbS) (Tress -- who is evidently no longer at work or who is done being important! ;-P) LOL.....Ohhhhh...drat! My secret is out. I am still at work, which means that I am neither busy nor important. I was trying to have at least the outward appearance of being a big-wig... *snort* ;-D (BarbS) Full size dear, full size, in all its lip-licking glory! That's what I like to hear!!! (KathyF) You aren't going to tell Sam that his EA is now Drool material, are you? Oh my! Imagine the therapy bills later!! ;-)

Well, thank God everyone has gone home here at my work, because I've been catching up on today's posts, and there is no way I would be able to contain the laughter! (KathyF) You aren't going to tell Sam that his EA is now Drool material, are you? (Tress)Oh my! Imagine the therapy bills later!! ;-) LOL! I've heard he can do a near-perfect imitation of ODB's voice, to add the EA as Drool-worthy would indeed give the poor boy a complex (what kind of complex remains to be seen, hee hee). (Kathy F)What a great logo, and so apropos! The rolling eyes, the tongue licking the lips! ROTFL!! We have a LOGO now?!!! WOO HOO!!

(Murph) i.e. taking away the book's ending and relegating Kip to a more minor role. Kip was the major character in the book. I saw the show, thanks to you, Murph.was disappointed Colin's name wasn't even mentioned. Jsut for the record I liked the film more than the book. Ondaatje's prose notwithstanding.

(looking around with a red face and noting that poor Evelyn & Mary were actually trying to have a "normal" conversation) I'm sorry ladies. Perhaps we should have an entire different thread that's called "Colin Chaos"?

(Jeanie) Perhaps we should have an entire different thread that's called "Colin Chaos"? I've wondered the same...a community place just to be non-topically silly or just together, not that I like you guys or anything -- oops, almost forgot to insert the winkie! ;-) Spring has the Porch, perhaps we could have something like "The Loft" or something else? Although I'm sure those who've been around here a bit are used to ignoring the baser frivolity.

Yeah, I like that idea, Barb. Wot? You don't like me? Now, who around here wouldn't like me? (whoops, forgot my emoticon, ringing the siren for the Thread Nazis & The Winkie Police) Help, Help, they're after meeee! Where's my papers? Where's my passport?? In all honesty, I do like the idea of having a different thread for me, and others who have a tendency to go loo loo at the slightest provocation, because I become embarrassed when our more serious connoisseurs of all things colinery attempt to actually have an intelligent conversation and meanwhile I'm flitting around like a junebug on a string. So, frauline.. errmmm.. I mean Ms. Karen, do you think it's a good idea?

Yikes, I did it again! (in the above message insert winkie after "frauline". You're a good eggie, Karen. I'm just teasing you and I've been in a weird mood these past few days. I do apologize to you and others that I might have slighted with my foolishness.

Listen, ladies - Give me "Colin Chaos" any day. This from a woman who lives with "Crowe Chaos" all the time!

De-lurking... Now this has always been a fun place to lurk what with the right/left discussions along with the serious fingers, toes, hair debates but today had to be the best... Googie??? Googie burgers (Is that to go or..)??? LMAO.. You ladies are a crazy bunch.. (and I've decided that if I'm ever stranded on a desert island you're all coming along). Pssst Jeanie, the weird mood--blame it on the full moon not the medication.. Leona

(Jeanie)(looking around with a red face and noting that poor Evelyn & Mary were actually trying to have a "normal" conversation) I'm sorry ladies. Perhaps we should have an entire different thread that's called "Colin Chaos"? (Murph)Give me "Colin Chaos" any day. This from a woman who lives with "Crowe Chaos" all the time! ROTF..Is there a "Owens Chaos" too? Sorry... I should have said: "We are sorry to interrupt..." *Only joking*

(Tress)And I want to know if that was a 1/4 lb Googie or a 1/2 lb Googie??? ;-D No, it looked like a Whopper to me. Oh, I've been away all day and missed all the googie stuff. *kicking self* Jeanie, you are priceless.

(Leona) You ladies are a crazy bunch.. (and I've decided that if I'm ever stranded on a desert island you're all coming along). Welcome Leona, glad you chose today to de-lurk! The more the merrier! Googie burgers (Is that to go or..)??? LMAO.. Yup, I could tell you were going to fit right in! (Linda) it looked like a Whopper to me. Does that mean I can have it my way? (I did NOT intend to type that when I started my response, it just came out...bad fingers...bad...)

Would it be safe to say that a 1/2 lb googie would be a colinary treat? (With or without the works?)

(Barb S) Does that mean I can have it my way? (I did NOT intend to type that when I started my response, it just came out...bad fingers...bad...) ROTFLMAO....you deserve to have it your way with a comment like that!! ;-D

BWAHHHH... very good ladies....keep 'em coming, so to speak.

(leona) Googie??? Googie burgers (Is that to go or..)??? LMAO. LOL... Would you like that supersized, ma'am? Just 75 cents more!?! Thanks for delurking, m'dear... it is now against the rules to relurk once you've delurked. Once you're here you can't go back or you won't be allowed to return (crossing fingers behind back). So, you have my sympathy, Leona... you're stuck with us! ;) (Barb) Does that mean I can have it my way? Yes, but it takes longer to receive your order and when they send him out he'll be all wrapped in paper, piping hot, with a yellow "special" sticker right on the.. ok.. that's it, no more late night latte's for me. (Evelyn) Sorry... I should have said: "We are sorry to interrupt..." *Only joking* Sheesh, after today's silliness I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't joking... we've been completely bonkers!... LOL! ok, ok.. I've been completely bonkers but it only takes one to incite a riot with these young, impressionable girls. ;)

(Jeanie) Yes, but it takes longer to receive your order and when they send him out he'll be all wrapped in paper, piping hot, with a yellow "special" sticker right on the.. ok.. that's it, no more late night latte's for me. LOL....I insist you have more lattes! I'll get you a Starbuck's card! Wait, you probably already have one (sorry if I offended you)! I'll get you another Starbuck's card!! ;-D Thank you Jeanie for making me laugh today!!

(Tress) but I will have a copy. And enjoy every slo-mo, freeze frame, zoom minute of it!!! Marketing genius (three cheers to Warner Bros)!!! "Get that Firth guy! The ladies love him...we'll sell billions of DVDs! Get him in leather pants! It'll be better than that time he dove into the water (okay, okay...that's a bit far fetched..)!!" And so will I. Leather pants may be enticing, as I pick my tongue up off the floor, but IMO nothing will ever better the WET SHIRT. His body was a temple, a marvelous piece of art then, still is, although IMO he could add a couple of pounds on. I'd like to be digging at that TEMPLE. (Tress) And I want to know if that was a 1/4 lb Googie or a 1/2 lb Googie??? ;-D I've been a "Googie Girl" for a long time...just didn't know it had a name! I've always been a "Googie Girl" and IMO this is the ULTIMATE FULL POUND GOOGIE. A Whopper of a mouthful. I'd gladly take that "pounding". Sweet dreams ladies.

(FanPam)I'd like to be digging at that TEMPLE. I'd throw myself on the mercy of that TEMPLE.

(FanPam) I'd like to be digging at that TEMPLE. (lindak) I'd throw myself on the mercy of that TEMPLE. LOL...I've rededicated my life to that TEMPLE. ;-)

All the Googie Girls must be tired out today.

(FanPam) All the Googie Girls must be tired out today. I'm here...but barely...loooooong day. But! Still drooling and ODB's googie is always on my mind. ;-)

Gosh, I'm gone for a couple of days and all Googie breaks loose in my absence! (Barb S) Spring has the Porch, perhaps we could have something like "The Loft" or something else? Would that be a Moss Loft? Considering the way we get sometimes, "The Gutter" might be more like it. Not that I am complaining.

(Rika) Considering the way we get sometimes, "The Gutter" might be more like it. Not that I am complaining. I couldn't agree more.. sheesh. I embarassed myself the other day to such a degree that I'm speechless.. you'd better mark this one down for posterity. ;)

Has anyone else noticed that we ladies get a little, er, *riled up*, every full moon? Last month it was his walking style, this month it's "the googie" (can't even type that without snickering). LOL, what on earth is it going to be next month? Perhaps "The Gutter" needs to be constructed before next month's full moon :)

(Rika) Would that be a Moss Loft? You got it, exactly what I was thinking. Though the Gutter idea is probably more appropriate. (Jeanie) I embarassed myself the other day to such a degree that I'm speechless.. you'd better mark this one down for posterity. ;) No no no...Jeanie, you cannot change...we like you just the way you are! Moonstar, interesting theory about the full moon, have to watch and see if there is anything to it.

(Moonstar) Has anyone else noticed that we ladies get a little, er, *riled up*, every full moon? Oh is that what it is? (Wish there were more full moons) The titillation factor mixed with the general hilarity of all of you is what carries me through the days!!

(Jeanie) I embarassed myself the other day to such a degree that I'm speechless.. you'd better mark this one down for posterity. ;) LOL....Oh no! Don't tell us the other day was your 'one-off'! We count on you to lead the way! Quick! Someone get her a latte!!! ;-D (Moonstar) Has anyone else noticed that we ladies get a little, er, *riled up*, every full moon? I can't blame the moon....I'm like this all the time. I just need a nudge... ;-)

(Tress)I can't blame the moon....I'm like this all the time. I just need a nudge... Or a weeks's worth of talking about black leather pants and goggies. And perhaps thinking about the googie in the black leather pants. *slapping bad, bad fingers*

(Tress) I can't blame the moon....I'm like this all the time. I just need a nudge... ;-) I'm the same way. And I definitely get the nudge I need from the Temple.

(moonstar) Perhaps "The Gutter" needs to be constructed before next month's full moon :) I could be wrong, but I thought part of the point of creating this topic was to give us a place where we could engage in full-moon frivolity.... so I think we're already home.

(MariaT) What on earth is on the table on the paper, a Dungeoness crab? Maria I am answering you over here as requested by the boss....I think it is a sea shell. I have one that looks just like it. Thanks Rika, for the picture over on 165. He looks awesome! Love the pants and shirt. Looks long and lean (like I like him)!!! (MariaT) Maybe I'm just hungry...yes for the crab! Although I could always go for a Googie burger... All that and a bag of chips!!!

continued from the "Current News" thread.. (Rika) (vs. 39 when the BJD shoot started). Not that I am detail-oriented or compulsive about math. :-) Heh, of course not you cute lil' dimpled math momma! Actually, I wanna know a way that I can manage to just stay 39 for, let's say, the next six or seven years. Do you have an equation for that one, ol' building & loan pal?? Rachael watched "SLOW" today and wants to know what sort of heart condition does Matthew have. I told her I was sure one of you brilliant ladies could enlighten her. (Rika) Hi, Kathleen! Glad to have you here, and I couldn't agree more about that prayer for no red hair in GWAPE. As far as the Vermeer "bozo" comparisons, Colin's hair is about the same color as mine. I didn't see any bozo colors in the Vermeer "works of art that possibly might have Vermeer in them". It appeared to me that his hair was about the same color as ODB's natural color, so maybe my monitor's color levels are incorrect? LOL! Either that, or I have Bozo Red hair, which, if that is so, it is an issue I need to address.. or dye. =) Oh, and hi, Kathleen! Welcome to the "Peanut Gallery" "The Peanut Gallery"- where typically people of lower class than the orchestra section would sit (generally in the balcony), and were the rowdiest in the theater, and in late 19th century vaudeville, disapproving audiences did more than just heckle the performers, but would throw peanuts at them, as well as the people in the upper class seats down below.

(Jeanie) "The Peanut Gallery"- where typically people of lower class than the orchestra section would sit (generally in the balcony), and were the rowdiest in the theater Well, I guess that's us! Wait, not us! Must not speak for everyone! But me, and anybody like me. I'm usually the rowdiest, wherever I go! ;-)

Rachael watched "SLOW" today and wants to know what sort of heart condition does Matthew have. I told her I was sure one of you brilliant ladies could enlighten her. I don't think the heart condition is ever really described in any detail. He seems to recover pretty rapidly.

(LeahP) Rika, love the picture. Did you by any chance cut off the bottom of the picture, or is this it? I ask this very politely, as I'm looking into the mirror from the very top of my screen to see if I can see anything else. Help!! I moved this from 165 so as not to invoke the wrath of The Thread Cop (hi, boss :-). Leah, I regret to say that, although I cropped the photo horizontally, I didn't take off anything at the top or bottom. So what you see is what we got. Assuming you were googie-hunting, you'll have to look elsewhere. (MariaT) What on earth is on the table on the paper, a Dungeoness crab? (Tress) I think it is a sea shell. I have one that looks just like it. I have to laugh, Maria, because as I was working with the capture I was saying to myself, "What the heck is that thing on the table?" Thanks for enlightening us, Tress. (Jeanie) Do you have an equation for that one, ol' building & loan pal?? Can't help you there, Uncle Billy. But didn't Lady Bracknell say that there were many women in British society who had remained 35 for years? That summer home in London is sounding better and better. As far as the Vermeer "bozo" comparisons, Colin's hair is about the same color as mine. You think so? Maybe I'm not using the right movie as my natural-color reference for him, because I'd call his light brown with some red highlights, and I recall yours as being redder than that (but NOT Bozo-ish by any stretch of the imagination). I didn't see any bozo colors in the Vermeer "works of art that possibly might have Vermeer in them". The book doesn't describe Vermeer as having Bozo hair either. That was just a joke. When Griet meets him she says: "His hat pressed into hair the red of brick washed by rain." That's not too helpful, but later when Griet meets his children she says, "The second youngest...... had the brightest hair of the four, red like the dry brick wall behind her...... while the eldest's was the same dark red as her father's." (KathyF) Well, I guess that's us! Wait, not us! Must not speak for everyone! I think you can speak for most of us. Count me in, anyway. (LindaK) I don't think the heart condition is ever really described in any detail. Agreed. I think the production notes might have said something about his having had a heart attack - check the SLOW information on The Bucket - but it's extremely vague from the movie. I think I even read somewhere (maybe The Bucket again, or maybe Drool archives) that the writer intended his heart problems to be psychosomatic to some degree.

(Rika) But didn't Lady Bracknell say that there were many women in British society who had remained 35 for years? That summer home in London is sounding better and better. Cr*p! This math only works in London??? ;-) (Rika) The book doesn't describe Vermeer as having Bozo hair either. That was just a joke. But OH MY!!! The paintings! If they truly are self-portraits of Vermeer....the hair looks brown (IMO), but the boy was in SERIOUS need of a hot oil treatment...and some deep conditioning. Trying hard to imagine ODB in a wig that looks like that! (KathyF) Well, I guess that's us! Wait, not us! Must not speak for everyone! (Rika) I think you can speak for most of us. Count me in, anyway. I have to stand up to be counted as well...that makes at least three of us...(I suspect there are more). ;-) Must now run. The DH has just gotten 7:00 tickets for James Bond. HP is at 7:05 and 8:15!! "Plan Rika" in place....will sneak the first preview 'while getting popcorn' and plan pee break at 8:10! Woooooohoooooooo....

(Tress) I have to stand up to be counted as well...that makes at least three of us...(I suspect there are more). ;-) Your suspects are correct. Count me in. Then there were four.

(Tress)I have to stand up to be counted as well...that makes at least three of us...(I suspect there are more). (Pam)Then there were four. And now we're five.:-)

(Tress) Must now run. The DH has just gotten 7:00 tickets for James Bond. HP is at 7:05 and 8:15!! "Plan Rika" in place....will sneak the first preview 'while getting popcorn' and plan pee break at 8:10! Woooooohoooooooo.... You go, girlfriend!!! We'll be waiting for the report. By the way, I want to post a comment about something that's going on that I know has concerned some of you. Several of my DVD captures from TIOBE that I posted on 165 (as well as two of Jeanie's) mysteriously materialized, without any sort of credit, on another CF fan site. The thief belatedly listed Drool's URL as the source of the photos, but only after she was embarrassed into it by members of the group enthusing about the photos and asking for others. Of course, my name and Jeanie's never entered into the discussion. I became aware of it when a couple of "concerned citizens" here e-mailed me to let me know about the unscheduled migration of my photos. I was going to let it go, but my ability to resist was finally overcome when I was alerted tonight that they were all atwitter because they thought Karen had stolen photos from their site and posted them on The Bucket (they were mistaken). They were displeased that anyone would do such a thing, especially without giving credit. And in honor of the occasion, I decided to go ahead and post one of the additional photos that was requested by a person on that other site. Because as y'all know, I do take requests! Besides, I already had a capture of it, and it's pretty cute:

I have no idea what you are talking about but count me in too. Lemming number 6! Thanks for the welcome at the Peanut Gallery. It's kinda hard to see the stage from up here, but we can do our own show. I'd get up to take a bow but there's something sticky on my seat. Colin Firth WAS good in his last movie. ( Does this qualify me to post in this thread?) BIG WINKIE.

You are fantastic. Shame on them. (Rika)Because as y'all know, I do take requests! I think I know that better than anyone. Thanks for the above, and thanks for all the great pictures you give us to drool over.

Me either. Knowing what you're talking about, that is. But, I don't like to miss out on anything, so count me in. Number 7. But only if it's good. If you all are going to get in trouble, count me out. Maybe I should think about it some more. I'll get back to you. RIKA!!!!! You know I get fiercely protective of my kids, my husband, my dog and people from Drool who get taken advantage of. Better you than me because I would have been over there in a flash and chewed them out good. I don't know what site you're talking about. I've been underground for a couple of days but I probably would have never seen it anyway. I do think it funny that there would be those who would think Karen was stealing from them! She's the one who regularly gets ripped off and posts to that affect on the boards here. And I want to give a big thank you to you as well. I try to always say thanks but I know I miss some. I can't tell you how much I enjoy the pictures you post. They give me a much needed boost at times. (Insert thank you winkie)

(Kathleen from the "current" thread)I heard that the chargirl living in the house in Islington was supposed to practice sleeping in a hole in the basement and grinding something in the attic while the occupants were away. Any confirmation? You know, sleeping in a hole in the basement doesn't really sound all that unattractive considering what goes on in the attic while the occupants, all but our brick haired artist that is, are away...What is that you say? She was grinding powder for paint? (Dodging peanuts and rotten tomatoes)

Lisa, thanks for the kind words. I'm always glad to hear that people enjoy the captures. I know how much I enjoy great photos that others share with us here! There are ways to prevent people from saving copies of the photos, but I would hate to have to resort to that. I know that some of you like to be able to save a capture that particularly tickles your fancy to a private collection on your hard drive, and I'm happy for my friends here on the Peanut Gallery to be able to do that!

(Kathleen) I'd get up to take a bow but there's something sticky on my seat. Colin Firth WAS good in his last movie. Lemming 6, you deserve to have your hand smacked! However, as Lemming #1 (I suppose) I think I'll steer clear of your digits. I'm going to go jump off a cliff now....

Wait a minute! I lost it! Jeanie must be No. 1 High Priestess of Peanutry. I got lost in my bad math for a minute! I'm a mere 2, at best!

And we all move down another place..... but for such a worthy one as Jeanie, it's an honor.

(Rika) but for such a worthy one as Jeanie, it's an honor. I agree wholeheartedly! I'm envisioning all of us in a theater, grabbing our purses, soft drinks, and popcorn (make that peanuts!) and moving over a seat to make room for our fearless Peanut Princess!

(Rika) You go, girlfriend!!! We'll be waiting for the report. What a girl REALLY wants is to see ODB (twice) in one evening (did I say twice?)...in leather pants (that's right...twice)...on the big screen!! Uh-huh, uh-huh!! "Plan Rika" a complete success. Mission accomplished. ;-) BTW, was I supposed to know that Mrs. Richie played Verity the S&M fencing coach in Die Another Day? This tid-bit escaped me...Did think about ODB being the next Bond. Still think it should be JN (despite my love for ODB). BUT! If it did come to pass that our AFG boy became the next 007, I must say I would enjoy those shirtless, swimming, ski-diving, martini drinking minutes. And those toys! And those cars! ODB deserves the finer things, I think. (Rika) And in honor of the occasion, I decided to go ahead and post one of the additional photos that was requested by a person on that other site. And we all benefit from your kindness...thanks for the capture Rika! Love a man who can strum...and do a bit of delicate finger work! ;-) (KathyF) Wait a minute! I lost it! Jeanie must be No. 1 High Priestess of Peanutry. (Rika) And we all move down another place..... but for such a worthy one as Jeanie, it's an honor. Dusting off chair and making room for the High Priestess of Peanutry and Goddess of all things Googie! ;-)

(Kathy) I'm envisioning all of us in a theater One playing the WAGW trailer continuously, I hope! Speaking of which: (Tress)"Plan Rika" a complete success. Mission accomplished. ;-) You da woman! I'm in a mad, impulsive, capture-posting kind o' mood tonight. Maybe it's the ego boost of being the Unofficial Supplier of TIOBE Captures To The Internet. But I have been falling down on the job, as some of you have mentioned fave scenes and I've been slow about taking the hint and providing illustrations. So I think the following will get me all caught up, and if not I'm sure I can count on y'all to speak up. I apologize that I no longer recall who mentioned which scenes. First, there was a comment about his somewhat unusual thumb position after he catches the flower near the start of TIOBE. Visual aid: Next on the agenda, we have the "mirror image" effect that Rupie and Colin create in the scene in the doorway ("We have to talk. You have to leave." "If I leave, how can we talk?"). Hard to fully illustrate in a still, but this gives part of the idea: Now, IMHO I've saved the best for last, even though you won't even see ODB's face in these. No, no googies either, sorry. When I posted the shot of FOC kissing the side of his face, someone commented that the part they loved about the scene was that she worked her way around to the back of his neck. For this situation, one picture just wasn't enough:

Hey Rika! Nicely done.....all around!! (Big Conspiratorial Winkie) I believe it was me who commented on the "mirror image". Thanks soooo much! A very brief scene with something about it that really amuses me. And an added bonus for me having the neck kissing pics, too, even without his facial expressions. (That is not a complaint nor a request, just a statement) ;-) (Tress)"Plan Rika" a complete success. Mission accomplished. ;-) LOL! Way to go! Raise any suspicions? ;-)

(Tress)"Plan Rika" a complete sucess! Have yet to see the clip once. I am impressed at your dedication. (Rika) Unofficial Supplier of TIOBE Captures to the Internet (USTCI) I am remiss in not thanking you for the lovely captures. Guitar playing is scrumptious. Can hear that sweet little off-key voice now. You're right about the thumb position on the rose. How odd! Maybe to film it better? Mirror image capture. Loved the way he motivates himself to go after Algy in the behind the scenes featurette. I wonder if he often walks around the set in hair clips. His curls must be a challenge to hairdressers. (happy the hairdresser!). Finally that clean shaven, good smelly neck shot. FOC, you are my hero! Didn't miss a follicle!

Lovely, Rika! Thanks! I also love his face right after that scene. The one that looks like he's in a daze. ;-D (Lisa), I do think it funny that there would be those who would think Karen was stealing from them! She's the one who regularly gets ripped off and posts to that affect on the boards here. My thoughts exactly! How dare they?

(Tress) Goddess of all things Googie Welll... I'm not saying I don't want this honor to be bestowed upon me, but, I do have to admit that such a title should be given to one whose eyes wander straight to the crotch area of HWM's self as soon as he appears in a scene. Mine do not, so I do not qualify. (laughing) I get too caught up in the face, and generally the googie gazing doesn't take place until I've seen the movie several times and know I'm not missing anything by lowering my field of vision. Tress, I'll have to try to pull a Rika in a couple of weeks, since (huge sigh) I missed the preview the first time around. I'm glad you had success! (Kathleen) His curls must be a challenge to hairdressers. (happy the hairdresser!). Finally that clean shaven, good smelly neck shot. FOC, you are my hero! Didn't miss a follicle! Kathleen, my husband has ODB's hair, by the way... aren't I lucky? After Rachael watched SLOW yesterday she commented that his hair is just like "Daddy's". It's even growing thinner in the same area. You can't do anything with it other than run your fingers through it. The women at work(who are like his sisters, by the way) do that to him all the time in passing.. Oh, and the neck on our precious boy.. well, you know what I think about the sniffy neck. ;)

(Moon) Lovely, Rika! Thanks! I also love his face right after that scene. The one that looks like he's in a daze. ;-D You mean like this?

Ooohhhh Rika! Outdoing yourself today! Even if that's not what *she* means, it's definitely what I meant. ;-)

Rika, Rika, Rika. I just got on and realized I've missed so much. You are over the top, today. (and probably every day):-) I love that whole sequence in TIOBE. Oh to be able to kiss that neck. And that look of his. Wish I could do that to him. I did get to see WAGW trailer yesterday. Bought a ticked for the 1:00 HP. (Which I didn't stay for,BTW) Thought I'd get two for the price of one, but a whole different set of Trailers for the 1:15 HP. Drat. I made a valiant effort, though, to see it twice. Just makes me more determined to go back, and I will. Totally AFG is all I can say, Totally AFG.

Rika, you got it! Thanks.

Rika! You DVDiva, you!!! I just logged on a couple of minutes ago and I get such a nice surprise! No coffee in my system, but am now fully awake and somewhat functional due to the visual glory before me!! ODB's lovely, curvy thumb to start with (thank you), followed by the mirror image scene (this amuses me as well Dorine...don't know why. I finding it more amusing now that I have seen the 'behind the scenes' action with the hairclip), and what can I say about the rest??? Lucky, lucky, lucky FOC!! I bet ODB smells good too! Don't know how she managed to refrain from just taking a little nip, right at the base of his neck.... the dazed look is too much...I have to lay my head down for a second....I'm back! Thanks Rika!! (Dorine) LOL! Way to go! Raise any suspicions? ;-) The first viewing was easy...decided to get that Diet Coke after all...the DH: "hurry or you'll miss the previews"...well....I didn't miss the preview I wanted to see! ;-) Next WAGW viewing...well, the Diet Coke kicked in and I just had to go! DH was so enraptured by (not Jinx, not Amanda Frost, but...) the Astin Martin that he didn't even notice that it took me a few minutes!! (Kathy) I'm envisioning all of us in a theater (Rika) One playing the WAGW trailer continuously, I hope! Perfect! One endless loop for 2 (or 3) straight hours....we could all get up and dance with ODB. ;-) (Jeanie) Welll... I'm not saying I don't want this honor to be bestowed upon me, but, I do have to admit that such a title should be given to one whose eyes wander straight to the crotch area of HWM's self as soon as he appears in a scene. I understand if you wish to pass on being "Goddess of All Things Googie". But you must understand, that without you...there would be no googie-ness here. Unless, of course, Barb discussed her lunch choice with us and then, well....we tend to run with things in the Peanut Gallery, so it could have happened...so, if you pass on the title, who out there will admit that they are a googie viewer first, before all else....anyone?? Hello??? ;-D

Tress, I must say that I go for the face first and then other things. Just popping in two post two more captures in response to an e-mailed request from a lurker. This is one of my two favorite of his suits from TIOBE, so it was no hardship whatsoever:

Rika I just wanted to join the chorus of thanks for all the wonderful screen captures you have posted over the past few months. - In relation to TIOBE, it makes the waiting for my own copy of the DVD that bit easier. Thanks again.

Has anyone built a shrine to the Italian taylor yet? I'm thinking I may....thank you Rika!! Love the sprig of baby's breath (is that what that is??)!!

It's lily of the valley. A wonderful touch, isn't it? On the Italian tailor, I finally got around to listening to some of OP's director's commentary a couple of nights ago, and he mentioned the tailor.... I don't remember the exact words, but essentially said the tailor had been really good at designing clothes to bring out RE's and CF's natural assets. Amen, in one of those two cases, at least. He said they had about 17 outfits each. Which of course inspired me to start counting. Perhaps I need to design a web site with a photo of each outfit....

(Rika) ...but essentially said the tailor had been really good at designing clothes to bring out RE's and CF's natural assets. Amen, in one of those two cases, at least. Wait! RE has natural assets? Ooohhhh....that was mean. Sorry! I'm sure he is a lovely man, but I can't for the life of me remember what he looks like...ODB is sooooo distracting. ;-)

(Rika) He said they had about 17 outfits each. Which of course inspired me to start counting. Perhaps I need to design a web site with a photo of each outfit.... Ah, but you know CF's tennis outfit will be missing from the DVD. I believe it's only a PR pic on the Bucket's TIOBE page. LOL, I honed in on what OP said about that, too. And thanks yet again, Rika! When I look at those pics, I start vacillating on which movie I think he looks best in....SLOW or TIOBE (with hands outstretched in imitation of a scale)........SLOW or TIOBE. *Extremely* tough choice when looking at those last 2. Can't get over the hair as well as the suit. *And* is not looking too pale, too tired, gaunt, or anything but AFG!!

Rika, you should really post a warning before you post those photos from TIOBE When my screen loaded it stopped on the close-up with the lily of the valley sprig and I fainted dead away. (Tress) Who out there will admit that they are a googie viewer first, before all else? anyone?? hello? If I got it right, you are asking who looks at the "Whole Package" before "The Package"? I think I'm a Whole Package kind of girl but sometimes, (like in the P&P wedding scene) IT (read googie)stares you down. Men, women,children, dogs crowd around the screen and say, "What the heck is going on in there anyway???"

(Kathleen) When my screen loaded it stopped on the close-up with the lily of the valley sprig and I fainted dead away. I am sorry! I have someone here who wants to nurse you back to consciousness - he's sent along a picture to prove his credentials:

No more than 24 hours, I swear, I've been away no more than 24 hours and it feels like a week worth of catching up.... Last things first...I only mentioned the odd coincidence between Jeanie's euphemism and my lunch...while I certainly have an appreciation for all things googie, I do not claim the title of Goddess of all things Googie. Paraphrasing Dirty Harry, I like a woman who knows her own limitations...I can get waylaid by ODB's bottom lip, I'll claim no particular affection...wait a minute...I guess to say, I would not want to single out one particular area...oh hell...there are so many OTHER attractions that...nevermind..shutting up and moving on now. Rika Rika Rika...do you live in my head? Do you positively KNOW when you post your captures they are my favorite? All of them? Thank you! Looks like tomorrow for us and HP...look forward to implementing "Plan Rika". Have to make sure son is between DH and me in the theater seats, DH does not know about the trailer but knows about my little foible. I might not have to go to the next theater, he might elbow me into it! Ok, now time for another, non-Googie, non-leather pants topic. I just got my DVD copy of Femme Fatale. There was some question over whether it was legit or pirated or whatever, it looks *official* but then I wouldn't really know I suppose? What would one look for? Quality was good. Movie was interesting. Twice now I've seen ODB do the Horizontal Mambo vertically ...or at least in a sitting position...and I wonder at it, I've not really kept a scorecard, but I don't think I've noticed that as being all too common in other filmed ...intimate ...situations. I liked Joe Prince though, very sweet, loyal, one of my favorites so far....except I was glad when he lost the Smokey the Bear uniform though.

(LOL) Rika, I said, please post warnings! You did it again! I never thought I would envy Miss Prism. But looking at that capture, I do. Thanks

(BarbS) Twice now I've seen ODB do the Horizontal Mambo vertically ...or at least in a sitting position...and I wonder at it, I've not really kept a scorecard, but I don't think I've noticed that as being all too common in other filmed ...intimate ...situations. Okay Barb, you said non-googie related, and I think this is a sub-catagory of googie (as it involves googie activity)! But! I have noticed this as well...which movie besides FF have you noticed it in?? My 'scorecard' is: FF PM WoF HotP Any others????

Rika, thanks for all those wonderfull pictures. You ,once again, made my day!

Welcome back Charlady! I thought you were moving over here. So good to see you back on the job. My only concern is that he seems to want to have contact with MB. I find this greatly upsetting, as well as the gawd-awful green clogs. Great stuff Lisa. Please keep it up. Rika, what can one say. You are indeed the Queen of the DVD. All Hail. Many thanks.

Barb, did you get the FF DVD on EBay? I've seen them there and have thought about bidding, but I was always concerned about it somehow being a rip-off. When you say the quality was good, I assume though that it suffers in comparison to more recent DVD's? I've been tempted to buy one if I could get it for a reasonable price because then I could do FF DVD captures.

Rika, I think you should definitely set up a page where we can and take them all in at the same time. Wonderful job!

(Tress)who out there will admit that they are a googie viewer first, before all else....anyone?? Hello??? ;-D HELLO *hand raised high in the air and waving* My motto: Googie first, all else can wait. Oh don't get me wrong, the eyes, hair, neck, fingers, dimples, and walk are all accounted for... eventually. Lisa, you've done it again. I might have had to pull off those clogs, and ahem, well lets not go there. (Tress)...which movie besides FF have you noticed it in?? I think you covered them all. But, I certainly would have loved to know what position Simon picked out of the book in COF. Thanks, again, Rika for our lovely Jack.

(Moon) Rika, I think you should definitely set up a page where we can and take them all in at the same time. Wonderful job! I'll certainly give it some thought. I have over 100 captures from the movie (and that's after eliminating some); I've just been posting the best ones so far. Of course every photo needs minimal editing before posting, so to post 100 of them would be quite an undertaking (not to mention the disk space they'd consume). I've also been researching how to get captures from RealAudio and Windows Media Player..... just preparing for the eventual posting of the WAGW trailer. :-)

Regarding FF DVD, yes, I got it on ebay. Quality of the DVD was good, I might need to re-watch it to tune specifically into image quality, but if there were any problems, they were not distracting...IMO, quality was easily comparable to any old film transferred to DVD. The packaging was reasonable... though I would not really know what to look for on pirated product. My only indicator that all might not be as it should be is the package cover points to a website that does not seem to have any "direct" relation to DVD's or distribution, but a google search for the distributor turned up a Hong Kong company. My ebay vendor had a solid history, I paid 9.99 plus shipping and as far as I'm concerned, it was worth it. (Rika) I've also been researching how to get captures from RealAudio and Windows Media Player.....preparing for...the WAGW trailer. :-) You are too good to us!

(linkdak) HELLO *hand raised high in the air and waving* My motto: Googie first, all else can wait. Oh don't get me wrong, the eyes, hair, neck, fingers, dimples, and walk are all accounted for... eventually. Yeeeeahhh! Our Googie Goddess! ;-) I admit, I'm like Kathleen! I usually take in ODB's fine facial features...then my eyes will wander over the rest of him...BUT, there are times, when IT (to quote Katheleen) stares you down. P&P wedding scene, second proposal...even walking down the steps of Netherfeld...probably wasn't until my 3rd or 4th viewing that I saw ODB's face!! (BarbS) Regarding FF DVD, yes, I got it on ebay. Barb, did you in any way warn this gentleman that there would be a run on his product??? Course I'll make way for Rika as we all benefit from her having the next copy that comes up for bid! ;-D This may belong on Darcy Drool, but I picked up a book yesterday that is really interesting. "Recreating Jane Austin" by Wiltshire. It doesn't mention ODB specifically, but there is an entire chapter on P&P (comparing the novel with the BBC adaptation). The book is how JA's novels have been transferred to other mediums. Also mentions BJD in the introduction...the part at the launch party where Natasha and Bridget are discussing literary adaptations. V. good stuff! Will now put it down and resume reading UMS.... ;-)

(Tress)who out there will admit that they are a googie viewer first, before all else....anyone?? Hello??? ;-D (linkdak) HELLO *hand raised high in the air and waving* My motto: Googie first, all else can wait. Oh don't get me wrong, the eyes, hair, neck, fingers, dimples, and walk are all accounted for... eventually. I've been considering this question, and I finally realized that I'm perfectly happy with a closeup of CF's face. However, in a long shot, it's Googie time!

Something funny (and somewhat googie-related) just happened. I was on the Guardian (UK) web site and did a search on "Colin Firth." A bunch of articles came up. Midway down the page was this headline and this first sentence of the article: "There's gold in them there pills The corporate headquarters of Vivus Inc, a company that develops therapies to treat sexual dysfunction, is at Mountain View in Silicon Valley, south of San Francisco." Hmmmm..... I did a search on Colin Firth and it returned an article on sexual dysfunction???? Needless to say I clicked on the link at once. Turns out that Vivus is working on a Viagra competitor, a drug for women, and some things that the author says are essentially aphrodisiacs. The author has some qualms about the whole business. And here's where CF comes in: "These heretical thoughts seem ever more pertinent once you begin looking at female sexual dysfunction. When and how, exactly, does a lack of interest in sex start to become a problem? And how is one supposed to know whether that problem is caused by simple biochemistry, or by one of the following: you forgot to put the washing machine on before you came to bed; your baby was up all night; you're feeling unattractive, having eaten too many Kettle Chips while you watched EastEnders; your partner doesn't look like Colin Firth/David Beckham/George Clooney. I'm damned if I know. " (Linda) My motto: Googie first, all else can wait. And to think I believed you were a shy, modest sort..... No, I just can't say that with a straight face. (implicit winkie)

Hi! Let me start by assuring you, that I will no longer lurk. It was never intended to be a regular feature of life. I found this conference while looking for something relating to Colin Firth. I have been following his �work� since P&P and find it very comforting indeed to find someone, who share this interest (or should I say obsession?). My english is not very good, but I hope you understand me. Fortunately it is possible to find lots of quotes from all of his films, so perhaps that way, I can make myself understandable. As a newbie, I hope to figure out all of your references (thanks to Rika, I�ve got most of them sortet out), but until then, pray forgive me for not knowing. If I were to be interviewed by Lady Bracknell, my answer too would be: I know nothing! If there is anything else, you need to know about me to accept me as a true fan, please don�t hesitate to ask. I will try to answer as truthfully as possible. As I have learned from your drool-conversations, it can be hard to keep this obsession a secret to your family � but I still try. I do have confided in my eldest son, as I need his help to track down all the missing movies. Perhaps some of my favourite scenes will provide you with an image of who I am: Best �look�: P&P2 Best line: SLOW, Say my name! Wet shirt: Nostromo (inside the mine, off course) Restaurant: FP Bed: TA (with Samira) Kiss: BJD Dancing: Valmont Shower: PM Torment: MOTM Most devastated (TEP, the farewell-party) Intoxicated: RV Singing: TEP followed closely by TIOBE (it�s a hard one to call) Silliest costume: SIL (still handsome though, and I love the movie) Best outfit: MLSF (rescuing Fraser, climbing the roof - and btw I think he looks lean and gorgeous) Rika � I still think you are magnificent. You have been the source of many delightful moments Karen � thank you for helping me to post Meredith � looking forward to hear from you Evelyn � still haven�t recieved the book (GWAPE) so I�ll just have to enjoy your postings I�ve taken up enough of your time and space, which is supposed to be about ODB, so I�ll stop now. I'm on a break at work, and some of my co-workers have been asking, what's so interesting on the internet. This time I'll just say books (I have to vary the answers, you know). Annette, danish and 4 years younger than ODB PS As to the Googie-discussion: To me it is his eyes - no (sniff) his lips.......

Chiming in... THANK YOU RIKA!! Love all of the captures, but especially that close-up with the Mona Lisa smile... mmmmmmmm!

(Tress)who out there will admit that they are a googie viewer first, before all else....anyone?? Hello??? Really, I would have to say that it is the Googie that dicates the viewing...For example, in P&P2 when he is about to deliver the letter, well, he turns around and The G goes to great lengths to be seen...I do love the whole package but when it is *ahem* poking it's head out and dancing a jig in front of you, what choice do your eyes have?

I think that esp with P&P2, I know exactly when to look for what - most of the time anyway, but with a new movie ie TIOBE, the first viewing is to see where HE is, and the second viewing is to look at the face - only after that can I concentrate on *other* things.

Welcome Annette!!!! (would do more graphics if I knew how) I am impressed with your breadth and depth of CF knowledge!!! I adore that FP restaurant scene too. You have done so much independent research that we in Firthology 101 may have to award an honorary Dotoressa!

Mmmm, Rika, you posted my favorite scene in TIOBE! Neck AND hair nuzzling for FOC, the lucky, lucky woman. (Tress) Don't know how she managed to refrain from just taking a little nip, right at the base of his neck.... the dazed look is too much... Maybe he's got that dazed look on his face because they're on take 127, LOL! At least, *I* would be finding ways to screw up the scene just to increase neck time...oh, you know you would, too...

Annette!! Loved how well you incorporated CF movie dialogue. "Have to vary the answers" and his eyes - no (sniff) his lips....... *snort* You certainly have the knack and have spent many an hour watching those vids. A very nice favs list too. Welcome aboard.

Welcome, Annette! I like your introduction very much and think you'll fit in with this crowd very well. as I need his help to track down all the missing movies. I also still need some of his films, so if you find some source in Europe I'd be very thankfull if you could pass the information on to me.(Btw my English isn't nearly as good as yours)

WELCOME, ANNETTE! I loved your list and I'm most impressed with your knowledge! You have obviously done exhaustive research, and will be a welcome addition to our band of obsessives.

Thank you all, I'm happy to be here. I don't know how to to italics yet, so I hope, you get the references: Karen - yes I have spend to much time fretting about CF and watching movies, but fortunately I don't need much sleep, and enjoy some time by my self (and ODB)late at night. Nita - I must confess, that I didn't know about Springs deal with Amazon, so I bought most of my movies from Blackstar and BBCshop (and a few here in DK). But my son is searching the net for Conspiracy and LE, since they are not out on R2. If he has any luck, I'll let you now. Kathleen - I don't know how to do graphics either, and I definetly don't deserve any honour. KathyF - the reaseon, I joined, was that I finally found someone, who expressed some of the "fealings" about this actor, that has come over me to. I'll get back later, but for now it's dinnertime, and my family is hungry. BTW - I'll have to have a closer look at P&P2. I note from the latest postings, that something has past whitout me noticing.

Welcome Annette I loved your introduction! You expressed yourself perfectly, I founded myself nodding my head in agreement while reading your post (especially about being so "engrossed" by my "work"). Looking forward to more of your posts!

NIce way to delurk, Annette! Welcome another firthette!

Welcome Annette!!! I'm very impressed with your list! I still have not seen all of Nostromo (still working on it...) Like your vote for most devestated: TEP! I agree. The look on his face at the party could just break a girl's heart! Glad you've decided to join us! Regarding italics, Ann's tutorial may help: http://austen.com/tutorial/index.html

WELCOME, ANNETTE (Annette)If I were to be interviewed by Lady Bracknell, my answer too would be: I know nothing! From your impressive list, I'd say you're off to a great start. And since I have the dubious honor of being the Googie Goddess, (Ah, it's a hard job, but someone has to do it. It is, afterall, WAGW your list inspired me to make a list of the best googies. I'll need your help out there to add to this, feel free. Best Googie that you know is there but just can't see it: PM, first shower scene, (a nano millimeter out of view) Best Visible Googies: P&P the wedding, second proposal, steps at Netherfield Best Googie for left/right discussions: TIOBE serenade scene (before the dog ruins the view) Best Use for a Googie: PM rocks scene (there are other uses as well, but this merits mention) Future Googie WAGW black leather pants scene (this category will be updated following DVD release) (Annette)Rika � I still think you are magnificent. You have been the source of many delightful moments To Rika, we love her, just as she is.

(Rika) your partner doesn't look like Colin Firth/David Beckham/George Clooney. I'm damned if I know. " LOL I know its a deterrent for me. (Moonstar) Maybe he's got that dazed look on his face because they're on take 127, LOL! At least, *I* would be finding ways to screw up the scene just to increase neck time...oh, you know you would, too... I would most definitely for days and days and days..... WELCOME ANNETTE I totally understand how he makes you feel. He makes me feel the same way.

(lindak) And since I have the dubious honor of being the Googie Goddess, (Ah, it's a hard job, but someone has to do it. It is, afterall, WAGW your list inspired me to make a list of the best googies. I'll need your help out there to add to this, feel free. Okay, Googie Goddess, you asked: Best Googie coming straight at you: FP (Paul getting out of bed in those grey boxers) Best Googie Packaging: Valmont (was that a cod piece? Well wrapped gift)! (Annette) Rika � I still think you are magnificent. You have been the source of many delightful moments (linkdak) To Rika, we love her, just as she is. Just as she is! (moonstar) LOL! At least, *I* would be finding ways to screw up the scene just to increase neck time...oh, you know you would, too... (FanPam) I would most definitely for days and days and days..... LOL...I would have been fired from the job! "Take 1,234! PLEASE miss! Can you take your teeth out of Mr. Firth's neck! And try and get the lines right this time!" **Wait??!! I have lines??** ;-)

(Annette) I don't know how to to italics yet Welcome Annette! I don't do italics, either; I screwed up the board for something like 2 days when I first came here trying to do italics, so I haven't been able to work up the courage again (yet). (Tress) "Take 1,234! PLEASE miss! Can you take your teeth out of Mr. Firth's neck! And try and get the lines right this time!" **Wait??!! I have lines??** ;-) Exactly! **I'm getting vibrations, alright, but they aren't from his *name*!** (insert naughty winkie, lol)

Welcome Annette! I would say you are off to a good start, you inspired some very fun lists, it certainly has been a day to take a trip down memory lane!

lindak TIOBE serenade scene (before the dog ruins the view) I've got a black lab, and one of my fantasies would be, that he (my dog) was the one jumping up and down ODB. I would off course have to come to his rescue and the least I could do, was to take him (ODB) home, and entertain him, while his wonderful italian outfit got cleaned. A girl has got to dream. Otherwise I would just have to push away FOC, sorry that would be Tress, and take her place. BTW - I hope, the italics is working.....

(Tress) Best Googie coming straight at you: FP (Paul getting out of bed in those grey boxers) Yes, yes, yes!!! I have been known to watch that scene 10 times in a row, going forward and backward each time! Can you wear a hole in a DVD?

(Rika) Turns out that Vivus is working on a Viagra competitor, a drug for women in case your partner doesn't look like Colin Firth Forget the Viagra drugs and let's get these guys going on Cloning! I'd pay extra. Italics??? Possible Happy Dance

Hi, this is another lurker delurking! I fell in LOVE with CF watching BJD and P&P and I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one! In fact, I don't see how you cannot! Well, I've been fortunate enough to have two friends here that share this passion for CF and we've been having Tuesday night Firthnights. We are trying to watch all CF movies/TV series, what have you, that we can get our hands on: So far we've watched BJD, P&P, FP (loved is wild hair), AMITC, RV, SLOW and WOF together. We have independently seen TEP, AZ and SIL . The day TIOBE DVD was released, we got two bottles of champagne, had Italian to go, plopped ourselves in front of the TV and had a wonderful time swooning over ODB. I'm sure alcohol had something to do with it, but then again, no alcohol is needed for that! Tomorrow night, we are going to start watching LE and I'm really looking forward to it! Well I've babbled long enough, it's tough not to when I'm talking about ODB :) Thank you Karen for putting me in the user file so quickly that I can post! So needless to say, I was so excited to find people who are just as crazy, if not crazier, about CF as I am!

Two lurkers in one day! Woohoo! Welcome Yura! Babbling is totally fine, the more pointless, the better...in fact, it's like a yawn on this board, you start it and someone is sure to pick up the topic!

WELCOME Annette ! and your italics are working :) WELCOME Yura! I'm about to make another Firth convert myself: a friend came over to watch BJD and stayed until 1 am looking through the extras on the DVD and reading parts of the Edge of Reason; she wants to see it again already and wants to turn our evening into a Colin Fest with regular sessions! We decided on Nutella as the food of choice for future meets; for now we had to settle on ice cream :)

WELCOME YURA!! Great italics Annette, it took me weeks to have the courage to do italics, now I can even do bolds. Looks like I may have to watch FP tonight. Seems like I may have missed the googie comin straight at you in the grey boxers. At least, I think I missed it.

And still the googie talk continues. I just want you all to know I'm paying. I can probably date the need for the root canal I just had to the day I mentioned Googies and their (locally) famous hamburgers online. I can assure you, the only thing I've found "mmm mmm good" lately was soup and karma is a dangerous thing.

Before I forget.... Welcome aboard, Annette!! I'm v. impressed with at all the CF films you've seen already. I'd seen virtually nothing except P&P and BJD when I delurked and have had fun playing catch-up ever since. Welcome Yura!! How lucky you are to have friends nearby who you can have Firthnights with. I still must go it alone. *sniff*

Welcome Yura!!! Glad to see you out of lurkdom!! (Yura) Tomorrow night, we are going to start watching LE and I'm really looking forward to it! Lucky you! LE is such a treat! (kathleen) Forget the Viagra drugs and let's get these guys going on Cloning! I'd pay extra. LOL.....And they thought cloning might be a bad thing! Imagine! Each of us with our own replicant! ODB for all!! ;-D (Odile) We decided on Nutella as the food of choice for future meets; for now we had to settle on ice cream :) ODB and Nutella??? It doesn't get any more perfect than that! ;-)

Welcome, Annette and Yura! Annette e-mailed me a couple of weeks ago and we've been talking a bit since then. I could tell she was going to fit in just great. Yura, so nice to have you here - and how lucky you are to have local friends with whom to share your CF obsession! I just saw LE for the first time about a month ago, and thoroughly enjoyed it, so you have something to look forward to. He's SO young and eager and innocent..... And a couple of official welcome photos in honor of our de-lurkers. First, you can never go wrong with dimples: And second, a little opportunity for googie research: (Annette) Rika � I still think you are magnificent. You have been the source of many delightful moments (linkdak) To Rika, we love her, just as she is. (Tress) Just as she is! Awwww.... y'all have me blushing.

Thanks Rika! What a killer smile. And yet again, another great suit.

Thanks Rika. You make my day yet again. Yesterday I sat and stared at my computer like a love-sick puppy.

(Tress)LOL.....And they thought cloning might be a bad thing! Imagine! Each of us with our own replicant! ODB for all!! ;-D Hmmm... such a thought to go nite-nite with! LOL! I can't even control my Darcy Sim... lol.. he only wants to wear his robe around the house, or less, mind you. .LOL (really shouldn't have downloaded those impressive "nakey skins") and then he shuts himself up in the library reads hours on end. The man doesn't have a life.. I'm gonna have to make a Lizzy in the next few weeks. Rika, as you know, the dimpled grin whiles't leaving "The Savoy" is one of my absolute favorites... can we clone that, dimples and all?

After my screw-up last night, I'll wait a while, before I use italics again. Rika - I do so like the dimples, but then again, whats there not to like with this guy. Thank you for helping me out so far. I can't promise, that I won't approach you again for further assistance. Dorine "I'd seen virtually nothing except P&P and BJD when I delurked and have had fun playing catch-up ever since" - I wish I had found this crowd of people before. I'm sure, that would have given me great pleasure with all your wonderful observations. Since I'm almost sure to be behind you all in viewing future movies (because of where I live), I will treat myself through your eyes (and Rikas wonderful captures). As for the trailer for WAGW, they don't show it before HP here. (My son went yesterday and had promised to keep his eyes wide open, but - no luck). I haven't been able to se it on our MTV or VH1 either. So you see - I have to be very patient, and that's not exactly one of my virtues. As for the program on TCM regarding Ealing Studios, thats probobly the same - no eyecandy for me at all.

Thank you everyone for the warm welcome. (Rika) And a couple of official welcome photos in honor of our de-lurkers. First, you can never go wrong with dimples Indeed you cannot! Does anyone have the same problem as me, where I keep on smudging the computer screen with my finger tips as I try to touch his dimples on screen...I need a bottle of windex next to me. As for cloning, my Firthnight buddies and I are biochemists, I'm sure we can put our heads together to clone CF somehow ;). I'm going to have to read up on how those scientists in Scotland cloned Dolly, then extrapolate how that method can be used for humans......instead of looking for a job, maybe I should propose my own research for CF cloning....... Happy thoughts indeed.

Yura--welcome!! I'm rather envious that you have fellow Firthettes to swoon with on a weekly basis. What fun!! (Odile)I'm about to make another Firth convert myself Bring her on over; the more the merrier! (Linda) Seems like I may have missed the googie comin straight at you in the grey boxers. Mmm, the gray boxers are v.v. nice for research :) Rika--thanks for the dimplicious captures! You are the DVDiva! (Jeanie) he only wants to wear his robe around the house, or less, mind you. .LOL (really shouldn't have downloaded those impressive "nakey skins") So your Darcy Sim is an exhibitionist? Just how "impressive" are these nakey skins? LOL!! I REALLY need to get my home PC fixed--there is just too much fun I am missing!

(Moonstar) Yura--welcome!! Oh, my, my Moonstar, LOL....how many times you think she's heard *that* one?;-)

Yura! Very nice to have you with us and to hear that you've a group of friends with whom you can share your obsession and watch his films. It's always better watching Colin with other fans. You need someone to poke in the ribs when a particularly good part is coming. :)

Rika! Yipppeeee!!! I wake up to dimples! And a picture with glasses!! Gracias! (Jeanie) I can't even control my Darcy Sim... lol.. he only wants to wear his robe around the house, or less, mind you. .LOL (really shouldn't have downloaded those impressive "nakey skins") and then he shuts himself up in the library reads hours on end. I just have a couple of questions! (1) I, like moonstar, want to know just how impressive is the nakey skin? and (2) What is Mr. Darcy reading all alone in the library with no clothes on? ;-) (Yura) As for cloning, my Firthnight buddies and I are biochemists, I'm sure we can put our heads together to clone CF somehow ;) LOL....Oh! My! Once you clone him, I sure hope that my version has the same problem as Jeanie's Sim Darcy! Imagine! Life size and walking around the house in a robe or nakey! I'd love it!!! The DH may have some issues with it though.... ;-D Annette! Don't fret too much! I just saw a web site that promises to have the WAGW trailer soon. I'm sure the second it is available someone here will post the link so that you can view it!!

WELCOME ABOARD, YURA! How lucky you are to have two friends to share your CF obsession (and Firthnights) with!

(Tress) I just saw a web site that promises to have the WAGW trailer soon. Are you referring to Robair's note at the AB site? In any event, should the trailer hit the net, that news should be posted at 165. Is anyone understanding the difference between these two topics? :-(

Is anyone understanding the difference between these two topics? :-( I do.:-) Welcome to Annette and Yura! Rika, DVDiva, thanks for the fabbo captures. Great as always.

Welcome Yura I agree with you completely I don't know how you cannot be completely enamored with him! (Yura) my firthnight buddies and I are biochemists Okay now we're talking!! Someone must have gotten a flake of dermis,a hair or some body fluid at that NY premiere. Check your closets! Let's get Yura and the gals working on this right away! Can you figure out how to birth them at 22 yrs old? We'll need volunteers to raise them to maturity. (Rika) Bee-you-tee-ful captures! When he smiles like that, I just have to yell STOP IT! at the screen, I can't take it. Thank-you.

Welcome Yura! (Mari), Rika, DVDiva, thanks for the fabbo captures. Great as always. I agree. Dimples for lunch, delicious!

(Jeanie) The man doesn't have a life.. I'm gonna have to make a Lizzy in the next few weeks. Don't be foolish, make a JEANIE. (Kathleen) Okay now we're talking!! Someone must have gotten a flake of dermis,a hair or some body fluid at that NY premiere. Check your closets! Let's get Yura and the gals working on this right away! Can you figure out how to birth them at 22 yrs old? We'll need volunteers to raise them to maturity. I personally am capable of raising 10 if not more from 22 to maturity with no trouble at all. And I intend to have them mature in all areas. Would welcome the opportunity. Put me on the list. What fun I will have. WELCOME YURA As you can see you have arrived in the nick of time. You and your girls have your work cut out for you. What fun to have friends to share with on a weekly basis. Alas, there's no one close to me either. Seriously would enjoy weekly Firthfests.

Hi, Annette & Yura! Welcome to "The Peanut Gallery"! Poor Barb... I feel your pain. I really do. I need two root canals and have been putting it off, now, for three years. I probably won't have a tooth in my head by the time I'm 45. However, if the gregarious googie gossip is what has brought on this calamity for you, then, perhaps my rotten teeth can now be explained! ;)

(FanPam) I personally am capable of raising 10 if not more from 22 to maturity with no trouble at all. And I intend to have them mature in all areas. Would welcome the opportunity. Put me on the list. What fun I will have. ROTFL! Pam this just cracked me up! Do you know how much 10, 22 year-olds can eat??? I am thinking you'll have to rig your house up with bunk beds as well! And you'll need to come up with nicknames for them...and you'll help them and mature in ALL ways??? You're gonna be a busy lady! It was nice knowing you! Try to keep in touch! ;-D

(Kathleen) Someone must have gotten a flake of dermis,a hair or some body fluid at that NY premiere. Oh man! I knew I shouldn't have washed my hand ;-) ) Bee-you-tee-ful captures! When he smiles like that, I just have to yell STOP IT! at the screen, I can't take it. LOL! (Jeanie) The man doesn't have a life.. I'm gonna have to make a Lizzy in the next few weeks. (Pam)Don't be foolish, make a JEANIE. LOL! Now why didn't you think of that Jeanie? ;-)

(Tress)Don't fret too much! I know, I know, and I'm sorry. I guess I forgot, that I now have friends looking out for me. And Karen, I will certainly keep watching closely on 165, if and when a link should appear. (kathleen) Okay now we're talking!! Someone must have gotten a flake of dermis,a hair or some body fluid Do you think there is any fragrance or whatever left on a short typewritten note whit a handwritten signature? (A while back I wrote a rather emberrasing letter to ODB and I still keep the reply). But then again, it might just be his agents fluids, and that's not the man, I want.

(Annette) Do you think there is any fragrance or whatever left on a short typewritten note whit a handwritten signature? (A while back I wrote a rather emberrasing letter to ODB and I still keep the reply). But then again, it might just be his agents fluids, and that's not the man, I want. Can't drop a tidbit like that and stop short of an explanation. Spill! We can email for details if you prefer, but it's too good slide by I'm sure. ;-)

Dorine About the letter - at my age I didn't think, I would ever do such a thing as to write a fanletter. But I did - that was before I found you to nurse my obsession. I will e-mail you - it's not something, that I want to write about "in public"

Jeanie, I think I want to meet your Sim Darcy! And Pam is absolutely right about who he REALLY needs for his soulmate. Think of the beautiful auburn-haired children Sim Darcy and Sim Jeanie would have. (Annette) I can't promise, that I won't approach you again for further assistance. No problem - you know where to find me. I see you got italics figured out over on Help - congratulations! (Dorine) Oh man! I knew I shouldn't have washed my hand ;-) Oh, rats - you were our best hope for this project. (Yura) Does anyone have the same problem as me, where I keep on smudging the computer screen with my finger tips as I try to touch his dimples on screen. For me it's mostly the compulsion to run my fingers through his hair. (Karen) Is anyone understanding the difference between these two topics? :-( I think so. On this topic we don't have to behave ourselves. :-) No, seriously, I mostly get it. News goes on 165. Chat goes here. My only confusion comes when we're chatting about news.

(Annette)I will e-mail you - it's not something, that I want to write about "in public" Well you better e-mail me, too. I won't be able to sleep until I see the reply. Like Dorine said, you just can't drop a tidbit like that, not around here anyway. We're (at least I)like a pack of wild dogs.:-)I can count Dorine in on that analogy-or should I say a pack of wild cats:-)

(Tress) You're gonna be a busy lady! It was nice knowing you! Try to keep in touch! ;-D 10 Colins to raise to maturity what a workout and what a way to go. I'd go out with a permanent smile on my face. Don't worry about finances they'll all have steady acting careers to support the mansion, and definitely no bunks each his own room and I travel. What a life that would be. (Rika) For me it's mostly the compulsion to run my fingers through his hair. For me it's the compulsion to run my fingers everywhere. (Annette) at my age I didn't think, I would ever do such a thing as to write a fanletter. IMO there is no such thing as an appropriate age to worship ODB. However, breathing might be the one requirement. Otherwise sit back and enjoy the sensations. It's quite a ride and I never plan to get off. Thanks for the beautiful pictures Rika, Mari and Murph. So talented. Can't wait for trailer.

(Pam) 10 Colins to raise to maturity what a workout and what a way to go. I'd go out with a permanent smile on my face. Don't worry about finances they'll all have steady acting careers to support the mansion, and definitely no bunks each his own room and I travel. What a life that would be. For me it's the compulsion to run my fingers everywhere. IMO there is no such thing as an appropriate age to worship ODB. However, breathing might be the one requirement. ROTFL! You're in rare form tonight, gal! (Annette)I will e-mail you - it's not something, that I want to write about "in public" (Lindak)Well you better e-mail me, too. I won't be able to sleep until I see the reply. Sure, and what about me? Do I beg for an email, or let my imagination run wild? Maybe you should plan on a mass-mailing, Annette! ;-)

(kathness) Sure, and what about me? Add me to the email beggars! Could anything you wrote possibly be more embarrassing than the googie discussion? There is no limit to the admiration for all things Firth expressed here. Fess up or email like crazy.

Annette, me too - wanna hear the story (whine whine). (Pam) Can't wait for trailer. Go check 165 for some VERY good news on that front.

Annette, me too! Meeeee tooooo! I want to hear all about your letter!

Hi Yura Glad to have you on board. Thanks for the good news on WAGW trailer, Rika.

(Pam)However, breathing might be the one requirement I had the opposite problem tonight, I had to prevent myself from hyperventilating. I just got back from our usual Tuesday Firthnight. We watched the first three episodes of LE. my...my...What Rika said about ODB being so young and eager was so ture...so so eager and innocent and so lovable. I was drooling all over my friend's cushion. I think I need to get that washed for her. oh, downloading of the WAGW trailer is complete..I must go.

My problem with LE was that I had conflicting impulses. I wanted to mother him, and I also wanted..... well, not to.

(Rika) My problem with LE was that I had conflicting impulses. I wanted to mother him, and I also wanted..... well, not to. I was in the "......well, not to" catagory! He was very adorable in LE. Would have jumped his bones in a heartbeat (I didn't just say that...really)! ;-)

(Yura) Does anyone have the same problem as me, where I keep on smudging the computer screen with my finger tips as I try to touch his dimples on screen. (Rika) For me it's mostly the compulsion to run my fingers through his hair. (Pam) For me it's the compulsion to run my fingers everywhere. Pam....a global thinker. Was thinking narrowly as Rika until your post. ;-) (Pam) It's quite a ride and I never plan to get off. Then what's the material point of the ride? ;-)

CF cloning from signature Oh my goodness - what have I done? Yes - I wrote a fanletter, including my humble opinion of his wonderful work and how I think, he is magnificent at portraing various caracters. I made it clear in the letter, that I was in no way in love with neither him nor any of the Darcys (!!!!!!). In short, it filled about 5 A4 sheeds, handwritten. His (or his agents) reply consisted of 3 lines, apprieciating and thanking for the long letter and expressing hope, that I might get a chance to se TIOBE soon. Signed best wishes, Colin. And this, my ladies, is all the reply, you are to expect on that subject. And I'll tell you this, I'm going quite giddy at my knees, fearing that he will ever read this.

Hi Annette & Yura- welcome! Yura, how I envy you the "Firthnights"--wish I had someone to appreciate ODB with. Agree with you about LE--he was wonderful in it. Jeanie - I like the little dancing Peanut guy--does he have a name yet? Think he should be the Official Mascot for the PG. Rika, let me add my thank yous for the lovely pics you post. TIOBE is definitely tops for 'Dimple Display'! I'm now off to watch trailer for the mmmmph time..

Jeannie - I agree with Leona. Your peanut man is absolutely adorable. Caution spoiler ahead About LE. What was with that last blue suit as he comes out of the hospital? Who was the tailor for that one? Captain Kangaroo? He also had put on about 20lbs in the hospital - not easy to do on hospital food. And gotten a lobotomy haircut! What were they thinking? The changes somewhat compromise his big scene with Nancy. Were they trying to make a point that war changes things? That this innocent beautiful boy had been so altered by the war? But they still loved one another? Okay, I got the point!!!!A heartbreaking limp would have been enough for me.

LE is my second favorite movie and Richard Herncastle, just my style. No way do I want to be his mother. I'd be Julie Blaine. She had the most time with him. However, don't feel he was so totaly innocent. "Just a little bit dirty." and with a twinkle and those dimples. Sorry have to go watch it now.

I still keep the reply). But then again, it might just be his agents fluids, and that's not the man, I want. at my age I didn't think, I would ever do such a thing as to write a fanletter Happy girl, you at least got an answer. That is something I stopped hoping for a long time ago. And I tried more than once. And this, my ladies, is all the reply, you are to expect on that subject. Well, that was not too difficult to do, was it? ;)

(Pam) It's quite a ride and I never plan to get off. (Dorine) Then what's the material point of the ride? ;-) Hehehehe!! And we don't even have a full moon to blame this time!

(Kathleen) About LE. What was with that last blue suit as he comes out of the hospital? Who was the tailor for that one? Captain Kangaroo? Oh, if only the word "Kangaroo" wasn't sending me into convulsions right now because it reminds me of "Kangaroo Jack". I've seen the WAGW trailer in the theater, um...... a few times - let's just say I pulled off an unbelievably successful Plan Rika on Monday. And all too many of those viewings involved also seeing the Kangaroo Jack trailer. I can do unfortunately accurate impressions of all the lead characters, including the kangaroo. But back to your point. The blue suit. My thought was that the hospital probably had to issue clothing to wounded soldiers upon their release, since they might not have any of their own wardrobe around (except the uniform they wore in the door, undoubtedly bloodied and torn). I thought the production did very well by him wardrobe-wise up to that point.

(Pam) It's quite a ride and I never plan to get off. I don't know how we're riding, but I plan to jump on, move over;-) (Pam) For me it's the compulsion to run my fingers everywhere. OH, YES, YES, YES. Beautifully stated, Pam (Rika)I've seen the WAGW trailer in the theater, um...... a few times A few times? Surely you jest.;-) (Maria)Could anything you wrote possibly be more embarrassing than the googie discussion? No, except perhaps, being the Googie Goddess

HP and TCoS opens here today, I wonder if they have the same trailers???????

Oh very nice, Rika, thank you for taking care of the photographic welcome; I've been a little under the weather lately but am much better now. Looking forward to the trailer photos whenever you're ready, Karen.

(Tress)ROTFL! Pam this just cracked me up! Do you know how much 10, 22 year-olds can eat??? 10 heads of silky curly hair to run the fingers through(sigh), 20 soulful brown eyes to follow my every move (SIGH),100 long, tapered fingers to hold and smootch, (Zoinks), 100 little toesies (sorry Evelyn ;)) to tickle (EGADs),10 exceedingly fine necks to sniff, (pant), including chin cleft- 30 dimples to dive into (gasp), & last but not least.. LOL... 10 googies to.. well, I'm sure your fertile imaginations can fill in the blanks. (comatose) But, then again, can you imagine having to clean the shower after the pseudo-boys finish up? I bet I'd NEVER go to the bathroom without having to lower the lid.. lol...and they'd definitely go through the food like starving termites. There would be no "tv time", as well and I might as well forget scolding about the missing remote because that thing will never be seen again! I'd never have milk for my coffee. Can you imagine the wrestling that would be going on between these clolins,(clone&colin) and the arguments that would break out? 22 year old boys can be VERY territorial! LOL! Oh Lord, and the "selective listening" that would be taking place.. .I've always said that words and phrases such as "wipe, clean, flush, take out the garbage, hush your bickering, shut the door you're letting in flies, and do you want me to come in there and beat you senseless" do not register with a young man's cerebellum. So, I suppose my insanity might just prove to be a mixed blessing.. lol! (Dorine) Then what's the material point of the ride? ;-) (spewing coffee out my nose).. INDEED! LOL!

I just watched the trailer and noticed that we get a "WOT".. lol.. Sometimes I can't help but wonder if he peruses this site.. I can just see him now taking the director aside and saying.. "Can I possibly say 'what' here instead of 'pardon'? I know it's a strange request, but I have my reasons.. ", but then, again, "WOT" has been around a lot longer than Drool, I suppose! =)

Speaking of 10 Colin clones: Thanksgiving with 10 colin clones- 2 20lb Turkey-$40 3 cans cranberrysauce-$5 Stuffing-$15 Buttered Corn-$8 Mashed potatoes with gravy $10 3 Apple pies-$20 10 satisfied ODB, flashing their beautiful dimples at you-PRICELESS I guess this won't mean anything unless you've seen the Mastercard commercials..

Prices-very approximate

(Jeanie) 10 heads of silky curly hair to run the fingers through (sigh), 20 soulful brown eyes to follow my every move (SIGH),100 long, tapered fingers to hold and smootch, (Zoinks)....... & last but not least.. LOL... 10 googies to.. well, I'm sure your fertile imaginations can fill in the blanks. (comatose) LOL.....comatose indeed! I have been thinking on this and I think I could make it work! I have room for at least 10 ODB Clones. The DH and I have no kids and our place is a bit small, but we do have two guest rooms....after the initial shock of having 10 other men move into our abode, I think the DH and the Clolins (to use your term) would get on famously. And the drawbacks??? I am already used to never having the remote and finding empy orange juice containers in the frig.... ;-) (Jeanie) Can you imagine the wrestling that would be going on between these clolins,(clone&colin)... ROTFL.....okay, I'll admit it...I would look forward to that part of it (can I add some jello?).... ;-D Yura, your PRICELESS Thanksgiving list made me laugh! Thanks!

(Yura) 10 satisfied ODB, flashing their beautiful dimples at you-PRICELESS That's for sure! LOL!

(Yura) 10 satisfied ODB, flashing their beautiful dimples at you-PRICELESS That's a total of 20 counting the left and right sides. Now that is really priceless;-)

(Tress) Best Googie coming straight at you: FP (Paul getting out of bed in those grey boxers) Ever since I read this I've been meaning to.... investigate (inquiring minds want to know, after all), and finally got the chance tonight. Tress, I can't BELIEVE I missed this:

Ooooooohhhh Rika! You have outdone yourself! The notorious grey googie! Nice package (Am I allowed to say that here?)!!! I have the most vivid dreams at night involving Paul Ashworth and those 'pants'. **sigh** You have made my evening. Thank you!!! (Rika) Tress, I can't BELIEVE I missed this And now it will be burned on your brain forever!! Woooohoooo! I believe he is holding *my (borrowed) lighter* in his right hand...I am a lucky girl!!! ;-)

(Tress) Ooooooohhhh Rika! You have outdone yourself! The notorious grey googie! Nice package (Am I allowed to say that here?)!!! I have the most vivid dreams at night involving Paul Ashworth and those 'pants'. **sigh** The soft grey boxers have always been one of my favorites! Wot a great grey googie gift they are! I wonder if my son notices how often I stand transfixed before the television with this very scene playing slowly backwards and forwards. Thanks, Rika!

Thank you Rika. The Googie Goddess gives you an A+++++ for that capture. (Rika) Tress, I can't BELIEVE I missed this Me, too. I better be careful, I may loose my title.;-)

(Tress) I still have not seen all of Nostromo (still working on it...) I just saw some of Nostromo this morning, doing the laundry, and I might have found the encourichment you need, to watch it. At least in the beginning, in those lovely white-ish ridingpants, there definetly is material for the Googie-discussion. I'm sure, that if it were out on DVD, Rika would know to proove my point in no time. But - it doesn't reveale as much as the soft grey boxers (dozing off to dreamland - again)........

Ah, motivation to finally get around to watching Nostromo!

Okay - I will try hard not to complain - but it is quite frustrating to see a listing of movies, shown on various stations in US - and I cant find them anywhere overhere. So, what I'm trying to say - very inarticulary - is, that if someone in this lovely crowd of wonderful women (mostly, I mean mostly women, not mostly wonderful) can find it in their heart to help me, by taping some - it would be more than nice. I don't know, if I dare ask for Londonium, but in any case I would like to see for myself, just how bad it is. Perhaps you have allready figured it out, but I am quite obsessed, when it comes to watch everything with ODB in it. So would you please, please, please, please just e-mail me, if you can assist me? If I'm out of line, by using this conference for this purpose, please let me know, and I will fall back in disgrace......

(Anette) So, what I'm trying to say - very inarticulary - is, that if someone in this lovely crowd of wonderful women (mostly, I mean mostly women, not mostly wonderful) can find it in their heart to help me, by taping some - it would be more than nice LOL! Not inarticulat at all! I second all the above and dare ask for SLOW.(Anette, can you read my mind ? You express all I wish to say so well. BTW I'm willing to share the copies I have, but probably you have everything I've got.)

Rika! Thanks for the capture, since I missed the sighting too!!!! It is indeed "burned into my brain" now, LOL! Annette, if you have a DVD player, and you are having a lot of trouble finding CF's stuff for your region, I have seen players for sale on the 'net that supposedly play any region DVD. But, if you have VHS only, what format will your player support? I believe Europe and North America have incompatible formats (you are in Europe, right?), so unless you have the right player, American stuff isn't going to play on your machine :( However, I have seen European formatted VHS stuff at Ebay, so you might try there. Hope that helps...

Moonstar raises a key point. I know from past experience that some folks "across the pond" have VCR's that can play both NTSC and PAL tapes, but I don't know if that's universal. The vast majority of us in the States can only read and write NTSC format.

As to the vcr-formats, I did some research when I wantet to buy The Advocate. In Europe, if you have a fairly new VCR player, it plays both formats. Most of the new VCR's has a label on them, that states, that it can play both formats. As to the DVD, I only have a PS2, which I borrow from my son, when I want to watch some of my DVDs. Knowing, that I will se all of ODB's movies "a lot" I try to buy DVD when possible.

On the other hand, one advantage to DVD players on computers is that it's easier to get around the region problem on a computer. (AND, if you choose, it's easier to do captures!!!!)

(Horse Cave Woman)Rika! Thanks for the capture, since I missed the sighting too!!!! It is indeed "burned into my brain" now, LOL! Not me! Muhahahahahahaha!!!! Cough, hack.. I have a terrible cold.. ick.

A new googie sighting! I've not heard this one mentioned before. In DQ, when he and Sandy are taken to the Windmill offices after stopping the train, there's a very close up shot of him from the waist down. Check it out! Sorry, it's on video, and I can't do screen captures. Rika? :)

Wonderful Googie capture Rika! Speaking of DQ, we want to watch it sometime during our firthnights, but we can't find a copy!! Does anyone in the US have a copy we can borrow or make a copy? Willing to pay for video and shipping! Or does anyone know where we can buy one? The firthnight ladies and I are DESPERATE!! E-mail me if you can help! I got the the soundtrack to TIOBE.....The track where oDB and RE sings together was worth the price I paid for the CD. It's been in my CD player all weekend, playing continuously. Now I can't get it out of my head...not necessarily a bad thing though ;)

(Annette) I just saw some of Nostromo this morning, doing the laundry, and I might have found the encourichment you need, to watch it. At least in the beginning, in those lovely white-ish ridingpants, there definetly is material for the Googie-discussion. (Rika) Ah, motivation to finally get around to watching Nostromo! There is another G moment just as he is being forced towards the garrot machine(?), he is twisting his body back and forth , left and right and it tends to lump the equipment together and force the package to the surface...Not that I wasn't riveted by the drama but I could'nt help noticing...

(Annette) At least in the beginning, in those lovely white-ish ridingpants, there definetly is material for the Googie-discussion. (Rika) Ah, motivation to finally get around to watching Nostromo! (MariaT) There is another G moment just as he is being forced towards the garrot machine(?), he is twisting his body back and forth , left and right.... LOL....okay...Nostromo is being dusted off, and I am putting it into the VCR tonight!! I must have my share in the conversation!!!

FYI, the garroting pic has been posted here many times.

(Janet) Sorry, it's on video, and I can't do screen captures. Rika? :) Sorry - I can only do DVD's. I may need to ask for that Snappy for Christmas after all....

(Maria)he is twisting his body back and forth , left and right and it tends to lump the equipment together and force the package to the surface... Oh, Gawd, what an image you just conjured up in my mind. And it doesn't take much. Guess what I'm watching tonight? Rika, more motivation for watching Nostromo.

Just when I'm surrounded by an avalanche of papers to grade, all this temptation to watch Nostromo!!! It couldn't be something quick, like his role in "Blackadder Back & Forth." Noooooooooo. It's gotta be a miniseries. And from what I'm gathering, this isn't something I could watch with one eye trained on the TV and one on the paper I'm grading, right? The plot sounds a bit too convoluted for that. Semester break isn't coming a second too soon.

(Rika) Just when I'm surrounded by an avalanche of papers to grade, all this temptation to watch Nostromo!!! It couldn't be something quick, like his role in "Blackadder Back & Forth." Noooooooooo. It's gotta be a miniseries I don't have papers to grade, only a curious family, asking why it is only the part of the livingroom, where the TV is, thats getting cleaned up and decoratet for Christmas. I had told myself, that it would be enough to hear his voice while I was getting on with the above (today I picked RV after doing the BJD research), but something, or should I say somebody, kept dragging me back to the screen.

I have both a copy of DQ and the necessary video capture widget, and will try to oblige. I probably won't be able to do it until the weekend, though, and I'll get stuck watching (I *always* do!) so it will help if someone posts the approximate minutes into the film. The widgets are cheap, around 60. for a pretty good one, and very easy to hook up and use.

(Elizabeth S) and I'll get stuck watching (I *always* do!) I know. Occupational hazard.

(Elizabeth S)I have both a copy of DQ and the necessary video capture widget, and will try to oblige. It's around 19 minutes and 30 seconds into the movie, Elizabeth. Thanks

Last week HolaLola posted (HolaLola) How can you not adore a man so completely and madly in love with his little baby? BTW, he's just as sweet and loving with his pets too! The Firth man is just one of the really good guys out there in this world. A talented professional who balances his life with love for wife and family and the world he lives in by trying to make it a fairer, better place. You people have chosen a fine person to admire. Smart bunch! :) As I was traveling for the holiday last week this got me thinking...We know that men of this calibre aren't prevalent, there are not alot of heroes to admire, not even for "ready money"...So I was reading my book, a biography of L. DaVinci, "Leonardo, The Artist and The Man" as I waited for my flight and they had this to say about Mr DaVinci - "Celestial influences may shower extraordinary gifts on certain human beings which is an effect of nature, but there is something supernatural in the accumulation in one individual of so much beauty, grace, and might." OK, I admit, that is over the top in reference to ODB but the next part... "He praises food to any friend, rich or poor, his kindness, his sweet nature, his eloquence, his regal magnanimity, his sense of humor, his love of wild creatures, his terrible strength in argument, sustained by intelligence and memory, the subtlety of his mind, his aptitude for science, music and poetry. What was more, he was a man of physical beauty beyond compare." Call me crazy, but as I sat in the boarding lounge reading this, and raised my eyes to survey the men around me, (actually singing the little Madeleine Kahn song from History of the World "No, no no no no no no, no.." all that came to mind was ODB, and that it has been a 500 year wait for the cosmos to work it�s magic like this again� Well it WAS a long trip, and I was excessively tired, and really its just a small obsession...

(Maria) it has been a 500 year wait for the cosmos to work it�s magic like this again� Maria, I have never regretted my inability (or rather, failure to try to learn) to post graphics here soooo much. If I COULD post the appropriate graphic here, it would be a gold medal, of all the tributes to His-Firthfulness I have ever seen, this must be the best. I'm just a sucker for understated obsession I guess! All I have to say is thank G*d for celestial influences!

(Maria) it has been a 500 year wait for the cosmos to work it�s magic like this again� I'm so very happy to be in the time of his magic. Great comments Maria.

I copied these postings from topic 165, but I'm trying very hard to follow Karens instructions as to a) is this current? b)am I just drooling? and c) I would so much like to earn a membership at Drool - so I'll make my comment here. (Yura) My friends and I were talking about his dancing just yesterday. I don't know of a scene where he really *grabs hold* of a woman (you know, hands on waist, not like the dance seen in P&P). Even if the dance is with his own daughter, I'd still love to see that on screen :) (FanPam)I believe in SLOW there is a scene where he is dancing with his wife, also Playmaker has a scene as does Dutch Girls, so he does dance. The comments of his dancing takes me to Valmont. It's a period-drama (I know, I know) and there isn't much hand on waist, but - to be Meg Tilly in that finale embrace of their dance, I would defy a thousand Wessex's (no, sorry red fingernails). This is not to say, that I wouldn't enjoy the grabbing part. I most certainly would! (Maria) it has been a 500 year wait for the cosmos to work it�s magic like this again� I'll just repeat FanPams comment, as I can't figure out to articulate it any better: I'm so very happy to be in the time of his magic. Great comments Maria.

(Annette) but - to be Meg Tilly in that finale embrace of their dance, I would defy a thousand Wessex's (no, sorry red fingernails). Or to be twirled around, like later in Valmont..... Speaking of Wessex, he danced in SIL too.

Has his dancing in TEP already been mentioned? If I remember right, he even danced twice in that one. I'd like to have been his dance partner while his "wife" danced with RF.

Hey, if you're interested... I posted four closeup pictures of my Darcy sim at Odds & Ends... I was able to make some closeups of him today, and he looks gorgeous! Please, if you're one of the girls who asked me for him once I finished making him, post me a note, here, or email me, and I'll send him to you!

(Tress) Best Googie coming straight at you: O.K. I know this is taking it back a few sessions, but last night while watching SLOW, I saw the absolute mother of all Googies coming straight at you! About 30 minutes into the movie, Sammy falls asleep at Matthew's house and Matthew is on the phone, Nimy comes in and he gets up...Frame by frame it takes up the ENTIRE screen ...I jest you not. Oh how I wish we could rent a movie theatre somewhere and have a CF filmfest, we could all drink wine and scream REWIND! at appropriate points (all too often, I'm afraid)and enjoy ODB on the big screen at leisure...I promise, if I win the lottery.......

(MariaT)I promise, if I win the lottery I've already told my dh that if we win the lottery I'm opening an art house movie theatre nearby. What I didn't tell him was that I would also have a CF film festival, LOL! A girl can dream...

(Maria)Frame by frame it takes up the ENTIRE screen ... OH, GAWD, how did I miss this.

(Maria) Frame by frame it takes up the ENTIRE screen ... HEL-lo!!!!! It sure does! Yet another one I can't believe I've never noticed before. That was just the ticket to brighten up a snowy afternoon. I like the film festival idea (just imagine that image up on a HUGE screen), but we need to make sure that the projector can not only rewind but also pause, advance frame by frame, etc.

(Rika)but we need to make sure that the projector can not only rewind but also pause, advance frame by frame, etc. Oh, and don't forget the zoom. It must have a zoom feature.

(MariaT) ...Frame by frame it takes up the ENTIRE screen ...I jest you not. (Rika) HEL-lo!!!!! It sure does! Yet another one I can't believe I've never noticed before. Ohhhhhh....it's just not right! I am stuck here at work and cannot take a quick peek! Are we sure it is ODB and not a 'googie double'??? (lindak re: CF Filmfest) Oh, and don't forget the zoom. It must have a zoom feature. LOL....Pause, frame by frame, zoom feature...AND only one remote, because if we all had one we would be hitting every button, every which way and lock up the entire system!! ;-)

LOL.. "googie double".. a stunt googie?! (laughing)

(Tress)Are we sure it is ODB and not a 'googie double'??? You mean like a stunt googie? Like the stunt butt in V... A stunt googie, now that gives me loads to think about on this snow day.

(Jeanie)...a stunt googie?! (laughing) (lindak) A stunt googie, now that gives me loads to think about on this snow day. I suppose, there would have to be both, huh? A 'googie double' to do those shots where ODB's equipment just needed to be present (but he may be somewhere else shooting those essential close-ups and dialogue shots) and a 'stunt googie' for those "action" or "dangerous" googie sequences.... BTW, I am jealous of all those who have snow right now....just wet here! Oh, and Jeanie, I am one of the girls interested in Mr. SimDarcy. I will e-mail you from home as I am at work right now...

(MariaT)Oh how I wish we could rent a movie theatre somewhere ... Mr Young's on Wardour St.(Soho) in London will be happy to rent you his theatre.. We did once....

I'm having a really hard time trying to explain to DH why I'm sitting here laughing so hard. I'm not sure if he'd exactly understand about googie doubles and stunt googies..... (Tress) Ohhhhhh....it's just not right! I am stuck here at work and cannot take a quick peek! Yup, that was one advantage to having a snow day today. I'm afraid I couldn't provide illustrations 'cause it's not on DVD. (Evelyn) Mr Young's on Wardour St.(Soho) in London will be happy to rent you his theatre.. We did once.... That was to see SLOW, wasn't it?

Okaaaaay..... I'm watching the "Forever Ealing" special. And one the female stars being interviewed is named.... Googie Withers.

(Rika) I'm watching the "Forever Ealing" special. And one the female stars being interviewed is named.... Googie Withers. ROTF....Withers?? Ohhhh noooooo...I don't think Withers and Googie should be in the same sentence! ;-D

ROTFL! I missed that aspect of it - I was just so taken with the "Googie" part!

(Rika)Googie Withers. Now, there is a good reason to have a googie double. Perfect timing, as usual to our discussions. The tears are still coming down. My sides hurt, too. (Tress)I don't think Withers and Googie should be in the same sentence! ;-D LOL. You said it. I don't even think someone with a name like that should be on the same TV special with ODB. Makes the Googie Goddess nervous.;-)

(Rika) I'm watching the "Forever Ealing" special. And one the female stars being interviewed is named.... Googie Withers Well.. now you've done it. I just laughed so hard I had a convulsing coughing fit and well.. .since you don't have kids you probably don't have this problem.. but, um, let's just say that after four childbirths, one's bladder never really completely recovers. (rolling eyes) Have you girls ever pondered why and how these strange coincidences of timing and content take place with us? I mean, when I mentioned the word "googie" a few weeks ago there was no possible way that I would've known that Barb had just eaten a "googie burger" for lunch.. (snickering).. and now, after discussing stunt googies, Rika watches a show with an interview with "Googie Withers".. (starting to laugh again).. ok, time to buy depends.

(Maria)Frame by frame it takes up the ENTIRE screen ... (Lindak) OH, GAWD, how did I miss this. (Rika) HEL-lo!!!!! It sure does! Yet another one I can't believe I've never noticed before. Okay, what we need to do is start a petition for a DVD of this movie. The giant googie does fill the whole screen, but imagine it in the high definition of DVD!

(Rika)Googie Withers. I read this at the gym on the bicycle/internet machine and squealed with laughter, one woman on another machine raised her eyebrows so high they left her forehead and joined her scalp... Which leads me to Jeanie's post below...I have no kids but I am right there with you!! Googie Withers, we could'nt have come up with a more hilarious name if we had been trying!! (Jeanie)Well.. now you've done it. I just laughed so hard I had a convulsing coughing fit and well.. .since you don't have kids you probably don't have this problem.. but, um, let's just say that after four childbirths, one's bladder never really completely recovers. (rolling eyes)

I'm putting this here and not on 165 because it seems perhaps a tad "chatty" even though it's about something current. I watched 'Forever Ealing' at 8:00 last night but our cable reception was bad at the time. So I re-taped it at 11:00. DH came into the room a little after 11:30 - we're in the habit of watching Letterman - and said, "You know Dave's on, or did you want to watch this?" I shrugged and casually replied, "Oh, I'd like to watch this if it's okay." (At the moment I can't watch one thing and tape another due to technical difficulties.) So he settled in and started watching with me. The program listing of Tumbledown appeared a few minutes later, and to my surprise, DH noticed it and remarked, "Look, it says 'starring Colin Firth.'" Excellent powers of observation, but as I knew the little segment on TIOBE was coming up, it was all I could do not to burst out laughing. The new Ealing logo came up, and then that familiar face, and I said.... nothing. DH just stared at me for a moment, sighed, and said, "I should have known." I think he's onto me....

(Rika) The new Ealing logo came up, and then that familiar face, and I said.... nothing. DH just stared at me for a moment, sighed, and said, "I should have known." I think he's onto me.... Oh Rika, I can totally relate to this!...As Londinium is on this morning (and my husband taped the wrong channel for me the other day, an oversight? I think not!) I bought a 6 hour videotape and pressed record before I left for work, taped a message on the TV, "please do not touch, recording" and went in to my sleeping husband and whispered in his ear, "I'm going, I love you, please don't touch the tv/vcr, I'm recording"..He rolled over opened his eyes slightly, frowned, and said "You don't love me, you are having an affair"...Ouch...

Oh man.. my dh has pretty much reached the boiling point, as well.. great, now our husbands are becoming hormonal at the same time, too... (rolling eyes). I told one of our sweet & shy lurkers who wrote to me the other day that I've been feeling like an adolescent again, but thusfar I haven't put any posters up on my bedroom wall.. .not yet.. (laughing). So, Rika, since my husband has been aware of my addiction for quite a bit longer than yours has, just try to be gentle.. LOL..I, basically, keep all of my Colin dvds out of sight and have discouraged Samuel about doing his rather admirable impersonation while Dadoo is present. We simply just don't mention his name around Dad anymore. (hiding face) But, though "he who must" may be out of sight whilest some of my family members are about, he'll never be out of mind.. or, for that matter, heart. ;) No, I'm not in love with the man, but I sure do admire the good & decent person that we all perceive him to be. The fact that he's a handsome and fine actor i .. well... simply the yummy scoop of vanilla ice cream on a hot apple cobbler.

I'm having a really hard time trying to explain to DH why I'm sitting here laughing so hard. I'm not sure if he'd exactly understand about googie doubles and stunt googies.. I'm ever so glad my DH is not at home at the moment, I'm sure he'd come asking me what I was laughing so loud about and I wouldn't like to have to explain that at all. I have not laughed so hard for a long time. This whole "googie discussion " is too funny!

Quick notes...on the run... re Googie Withers-too funny, but then so is the picture of Maria on her bike reading that...at least I could fall off my chair in the comfort of my own home! re DH sensitivities to ODB, OMG, there truly must be some karmic connection between all of us -and that is NOT the reason I'm on the run, but IS the reason I have to choose better when I catch up with Darcyfic. re all the conversations about SLOW, I have

Jeanie, What a timely discussion. My DH indulges my "hobby" and has read "us", including "googie chat", the whole enchilada. I have to tell you that in his eyes you personally have set a new standard with your recent "sim" posts. He thinks they are hysterical. Dadoo should be proud. It's like playing six degrees of separation at our house. How can something I am reading, listening to, watching possibly be related to CF? It's his job to find out. (LOL).

...(got to start watching what I'm typing...) ...got to find that movie.

(Rika) The new Ealing logo came up, and then that familiar face, and I said.... nothing. DH just stared at me for a moment, sighed, and said, "I should have known." I think he's onto me.... LOL....sounds like you outed yourself!! (MariaT) "I'm going, I love you, please don't touch the tv/vcr, I'm recording"..He rolled over opened his eyes slightly, frowned, and said "You don't love me, you are having an affair"...Ouch... My DH knows that I'm at home....and we work together, so it is not like he doesn't know exactly were I am 90% of the time. I have already told him that one DH is waaaaaaay too much work! Why would I want another one around? ODB is nice, because I don't have to pick up his jacket from the couch! I can love the man from a distance and not have to do his laundry (perfect)! (Jeanie) Oh man.. my dh has pretty much reached the boiling point, as well.. great, now our husbands are becoming hormonal at the same time, too... (rolling eyes). LOL.....it is like when a bunch of women all live together, and their cycles all start to coincide. Our DHs must be getting vibes through us!!!

Uhm...hello! I'm de-lurking long enough to introduce myself and say how much fun it is to read all your posts about ODB. I'm a relative newbie to CF..I've known about his work for years (and I've seen quit a bit of it) but I wasn't really "aware" of him until last year when I caught (what else?) P&P2 on A&E. Of course since then, it's been an almost obsession. My friends think I'm completely nuts (even though one friend managed to finagle a theatre poster of TIOBE for me). My DH just rolls his eyes and calls him "that Colon Filth guy" and my 4 yr old loves to watch P&P2 with me when I'm folding clothes. I took both my boys to HP and when the trailer for WAGW came up, he stood on his seat and shouted.."dat's mommy's boyfriend!" VERY VERY embarrassing. Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in and let you all know how nice it is to know that there are other women out there with this obsession. I know now I'm not alone....and not crazy...heh And thank you Karen for all your help and support!

Welcome Ada! LOL about the "mommy's boyfriend" story. My son when he looks at my screensaver just goes:"Mommy, is that your Mr Darcy?" What can you say to that? Of course, I do have to share with all the firthettes here, but it sure enhances the experience! Enjoy and we're glad to have you here!

Welcome AdaVW!! Glad you decided to de-lurk and join the party! (AdaVW)...when the trailer for WAGW came up, he stood on his seat and shouted.."dat's mommy's boyfriend!" VERY VERY embarrassing. LOL...your little boy is funny!! So is your DH..."Colon Filth" !?! ;-D BTW, Maybe we should all start a support group for our DHs?

Welcome AdaVW!!! (Ada) Anyway, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in and let you all know how nice it is to know that there are other women out there with this obsession. I know now I'm not alone....and not crazy...heh Nope, you are definitely not alone!! And the craziness is the best part! (Tress BTW, Maybe we should all start a support group for our DHs? Great Idea! Maybe they would'nt feel so all alone then...

(KathyF) Okay, what we need to do is start a petition for a DVD of this movie. The giant googie does fill the whole screen, but imagine it in the high definition of DVD! I was just talking to the DH regarding this...he claims that we have the power to convert VHS to DVD on our computer (I really need to learn how to use the thing)! He then asked "why?" and I pointed to my stack of CF tapes (at this point he rolled his eyes)....anyway, my company has a two week shut-down over the holidays, and it is my mission to convert at least one tape (I believe I will start with SLOW). The image will be like the VHS (resolution not so good) but it will take up less space AND allow for slo-mo, freeze frame...oh, wait, maybe I'll start with PM?! ;-)

Not crazy? Wot? I'm a certified loony bird, I kid you not. In many older southern families there is almost always "a character", pronounced "caaacktuh", and guess who the character is in ours... LOL! Sometimes during family gatherings I can just feel the eyes on me.. it's like they're waiting for me to start foaming at the mouth and for my head to spin around. I'm honestly considering taking a can of rediwhip with me during the upcoming holidays and just when I feel as if I've become the reluctant point of interest.. just take a big hit off of the whipped cream and start screaming and carrying on.. Such a move, no doubt, would give them more fodder to expound upon behind my back, but, at least for just a little while, they'd be scared sh*tless. (evil grin) Ada, it sounds as if you're going to have a minion of your own on your hands in a few years if not already. (laughing) My Sam keeps all of us in stitches, but especially me.. we have the same twisted sort of sense of humor. Kathleen, my husband used to sort of indulge me as well, but I think it's beginning to wear a bit thin on him... I can certainly understand his problem with my illness (snorting).. He's always really liked Gina Davis, and I caught him one time drooling over an issue of "Vanity Fair" which featured a photo shoot with her. She, in the picture he was so taken with, was wearing nothing but stilleto heels and a pink feather boa. (laughing) It made me sooo mad, so I can truly understand the problem. However, I refuse to give up my obsession... I have too much fun. Tell your husband that I appreciate his sentiments about my lil' Sim man.. (recalling him wearing his nakey skin and rethinking the use of the word "lil").. perhaps something like "Impressive & Extremely Intrigued Sim Man".. snickering.

Ada!! See, it's not so difficult! :)

(Rika)I think he's onto me.... You "think" he's on to you"?;-) My DH has been on to me for awhile now. I guess it may have something to do with pulling out CF's films and watching shamelessly. Can't help it, sometimes I need it bad. I don't say if it's a CF film, I figure he'll know in the first five minutes. He usually says "oh no, not him again" Or, "how many movies did this guy make"? Or, "how come you have all these movies"? But the usual comment now, is "Colin Frith, again? No, I didn't mistype it that's what he calls him when he's teasing me. He didn't even flinch when I almost came unglued at the site of the trailer when we took our daughter to see HP. He even understood when I left the theater during Bond last Sat. to go and catch the trailer across the hall. He's been pretty good with it. I try not to get too crazy when he's around. However, there are certain films I would never view with DH--PM, HOTP, WOF a girl has to be careful;-)

OOPS, I almost forgot... WELCOME ADA Oh, what a great time to join us.

Hi Ada

(AdaVW) I took both my boys to HP and when the trailer for WAGW came up, he stood on his seat and shouted.."dat's mommy's boyfriend!" That is just TOO funny. I almost didn't share my little story about DH and Forever Ealing - I'm really glad I did because it's so much fun hearing all the other DH stories that have come up as a result. (Tress) he claims that we have the power to convert VHS to DVD on our computer You can do WHAT????? Please keep us informed about this.... I'm willing to offer all sorts of shameless bribes in the form of custom-selected captures from the resulting DVD's..... And.... Welcome, AdaVW! How about a little serenade?

From one newly de-lurker to another: Velcome Ada If I had any talent in lines of graphics an such I would give you garden of roses, but I have not. Just a warning - what I'm about to write is so embarrassing to me, but it might give you a picture as to just how unwillingly obsessed a poor woman can get: This afternoon, having just checked the last postings at drool, it was time to play with my 5-year old. We were to make various things from playdough. He (my son) made some lovely pizza's and suddenly made this remark at my "work": Wouw, Mum, don't use all the dough on that one sausage. Need I add, that the sausage very, very quickly was transformed into some lovely rosebuds. The colour about as red as my face. So from now on, at least for a while, I'll have to skip the Googie-conversations.

(Annette) Need I add, that the sausage very, very quickly was transformed into some lovely rosebuds Oh Annette, how very very creative you are, and such a quick thinker too! I'm sure the rosebuds were lovely but I have to say I would have loved to have seen the sausage, I'm quite intrigued! ROFLOL! And so glad you've delurked Ada. I'm convinced there's safety in numbers, please stay unlurked (?) long enough to dive right in. Although if Rika promises more caps like that as a greeting, you can come and go as often as you like! (That *may* be my favorite so far...I'll have to check them all out to compare though!)

Hi Ada, welcome! I'm a new delurker myself. The people here are really friendly aren't they? It's great, but that's to be expected from ladies with fine tastes (i.e. ODB). "mommy's boyfriend" comment was really cute! :) I've been away for a couple of days and I just managed to go through some new posts that I missed. I was so beat and tired but now, I'm all hyper from laughing so hard. re screen filling googie in SLOW ....oh..must watch SLOW again. re Googie Withers I hope I never meet anyone named Googie, I think I'll end up choking myself from uncontrollable laughter. Speaking of colin obssession, my sister the other day remarked " you know, Colin Firth doesn't know you exist"...v.v. cruel I thought. I mean yes, at some level I understand that, that in reality he doesn't know I exist but when it comes to ODB I don't live in realty, infact I'll be happy being in my lala land (or googie land) with Matthew, Richard, Fitzwilliam, Mark, Wessex, Paul etc..... Ok, maybe I do have a problem.....

(Annette) Wouw, Mum, don't use all the dough on that one sausage. LOL My mind is in agreement with yours. WELCOME ADA These women are so friendly, kind, warm and talented. You will really enjoy yourself. And you certainly are not alone as you are well aware. (Yura) when it comes to ODB I don't live in realty, infact I'll be happy being in my lala land (or googie land) with Matthew, Richard, Fitzwilliam, Mark, Wessex, Paul etc..... Ok, maybe I do have a problem..... I'm with you all the way. And isn't it a wonderfully beautiful land in which to live. If you have a problem I'm certifiable. I don't have the DH problem to contend with but I do have the offspring reaction. My youngest, a male, doesn't think I'm quite right in the head. The pics on my wall don't help but what a lovely way to go to sleep at night and no better way to awaken in the morning. My eldest son has watched so many movies with me now he's beginning to rank performances although we see ODB through definitely different eyes appreciating ODB's fine qualities in different ways. Makes for alot of fun. And he laughs outloud with TIOBE. Good company.

WELCOME, ADA! (Ada) my 4 yr old loves to watch P&P2 with me when I'm folding clothes. I took both my boys to HP and when the trailer for WAGW came up, he stood on his seat and shouted.."dat's mommy's boyfriend!" VERY VERY embarrassing. (Odile) My son when he looks at my screensaver just goes:"Mommy, is that your Mr Darcy?" I loved these comments by your very astute sons! My own 18-year-old has never commented about the fact that all the movies I watch seem to feature one actor. Actually, I think he doesn't pay enough attention to notice the difference between P&P2, TIOBE and BJD. I'm quite sure he doesn't recognize CF in FP.

Welcome Ada! Take that observant son of yours to a Firth movie location and order some coffee ;-)! CF loves to talk about toddlers! And thanks, Rika, for the serenade! Very lovely, as usual!

Welcome Ada! It's always nice to have someone new to join the fun. Specially someone with such a clever son as yours :-).

Nita, Could you check your emails?

(Pam)The pics on my wall don't help but what a lovely way to go to sleep at night and no better way to awaken in the morning When it was my daughters birthday, she had just finished redecorating her room. She was not sure what she wanted to put on the walls. I suggested(actually talked her into movie posters) Since she loved BJD and patiently attened several of my thirteen screenings of TIOBE, I happily had the movie posters for these films mounted and very proudly gave them to her as a birthday gift. Now, each morining when I go in to tidy up (ahem, yes I do go in every morning) I see CF's life size picture looking down the hall at me as I approach. I have a very understanding DH, but putting them on our bedroom wall might be crossing the line.;-)

(Linda) I have a very understanding DH, but putting them on our bedroom wall might be crossing the line.;-) Aw, I bet he'd be broadminded about such.... On Ehlenews we have a guy who not only has a picture of Jenn in their( married) bedroom, but kisses it every night.

Thank you all for the lovely welcome..and thank you especially, Rika, for the serenade. I always wanted someone to sing just to me. As far as my DH is concerned..he's relatively unconcerned about ODB, but whenever he gets too impatient with me, I just mention Ally Sheedy and he shuts up. But I think I'd be pushing it if I did put up my poster..sooo it sits in my closet and whenever I feel the need, I sneak a look. Lora, I'd love to take my son to a movie location but I don't think ODB will be allowe...oops, sorry..will be coming to Virginia anytime soon. ;D

So Ada, was it all the googie talk that drove you out of lurkdom? :) Welcome!! It *is* a wild & crazy time... Stunt googie?! Googie Withers?! Good gawd, tears streaming down face, the aching sides! As for my dh, he is still clueless, although I'm not sure how. I don't hide the DVD collection, and he didn't say a word about TIOBE pretty much running constantly the first week after it arrived at our door. Nor has he said anything about the batch of soundtracks that arrived just before Thanksgiving, which all had one thing in common (*Wink, wink*). He would have known, though, if the cinema where we saw HP had played the WAGW preview; a surprise attack of HWM on the big screen in leather pants would have been waaaay too much for me, LOL!

I have a spare PAL copy of DQ (it won't play in North America). - I'll send to the first person to send me an email.

I know, that all of you �oldies but goodies� probably have discussed and drooled over DQ earlier, but I need my share of the conversation as well. Or at least just post something to get it off my mind (hopefully). I love this film (thank you, Janet), and want to put something on my fav-list from it, so I was thinking; has he ever kissed a woman on the hand before (perhaps Valmont, but that was way back)? or driven a bus? Mentioning Valmont, now in DQ I love his hair, just not in his �sane� moments. I prefer, when it isn�t too wellgroomed. I also keep hearing the tune: If I said you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me? I hope for the physical answer (as if ODB really was holding me tight against him). I also kinda wondered, why nobody had mentioned the �parking of the salami� during the current discussion, which I btw had promised myself to take a break from. I guess, I have to admit to myself, that attending this wonderful place is indeed going to be a regular feature of life, and I might as well enjoy the ride. Someone postet a link to a website, with some CF-inspired drawings of foxes and at least one wolf. Does any of you also see the resemblence of the wolf, when ODB grins (smiles widly or whatever the right expression is). It strikes me everytime, even on the photos with his son. Not to say, that I don�t like it � just an observation.

(Annette) has he ever kissed a woman on the hand Definitely Valmont and probably Camille. or driven a bus? A first. I believe he mentioned in some articles about how he had to learn how to drive one.

Have just received my multi-region DVD player and TIOBE!!! He is TFG!!! Will comment further when I am sober. - I have just returned from my Christmas Night Out. Am totally pissed ALA Bridget. Good Night!!!

Might I say Janet that you type much better than some other droolers when you have imbibed! Well done! (Take asprin/tylenol and drink water before sleeping.)

Don't know exactly where to put this but must chose a Colin topic. GREAT PICTURE KAREN Very very clever. How do you do it? Love it.

(BarbS) LOL Tress, not so hard when you think about it though, I'm fairly continuous with those types of thoughts myself...wait a minute....ooops, there I go again! Does kind of give new meaning to the song "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus" though, doesn't it? I thought I would move over here since I was going to be silly.... LOL at "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus". After I read this, I thought of another Santa song...I'm not even going to type it because now that I think about it, it would be v. v. bad (taken in this context)...and I do want (a particular) Santa to visit....I REALLY REALLY do!! (Annette) Oh yes, and I'm sure we both agree, that it isn't the costume (though he does so love a disguise) but the man inside (perhaps even preferebly without costume at all). Have to stop - otherwise wrong topic (again). It's okay Annette! I moved you over to 166! And I agree...ODB could 'lose' the costume...and still be quite remarkable! ;-D (Annette) btw What does it mean, when you put a D after your postings? It's a laughing winkie! ;-D

(attempting to look around the room discreetly) Mighty quiet in here.. surely this doesn't mean everyone is like I am and haven't even begun (oh gawd) their Christmas shopping yet!?! I'm about as much in the mood for Christmas right now as having a root canal with no anesthesia. BaHHH HUMBUG!

(Jeanie) Mighty quiet in here.. surely this doesn't mean everyone is like I am and haven't even begun (oh gawd) their Christmas shopping yet!?! I'm about as much in the mood for Christmas right now as having a root canal with no anesthesia. BaHHH HUMBUG! Some people are all done. I'm not one of them. :-( I ventured into a store on Saturday, stayed about 20 minutes and left in disgust. So far I've not bought a single present. I wonder how those on my gift list would feel about a donation to charity in their name. (Tress) It's okay Annette! I moved you over to 166! And I agree...ODB could 'lose' the costume...and still be quite remarkable! ;-D It's okay Annette! I moved you over to 166! And I agree...ODB could 'lose' the costume...and still be quite remarkable! ;-D Perhaps if a certain Santa would make an appearance at my house, I'd be more in the mood (yeah, but in the mood for what?).

(Jeanie)attempting to look around the room discreetly) Mighty quiet in here.. Sure is, but now that you are back, things may heat up...I hope.

What a delicious looking Santa...... (Jeanie)attempting to look around the room discreetly) Mighty quiet in here. yes it is. I've been out of town again and came back to see not too many new posts. But I guess it is a busy time of year with relatively few news about ODB :( So went out of town twice within two weeks and I realized that I get very agitated...I feel very empty. Then I realized that I need a colin fix!!! We've had to cancel our tuesday night firth night last week and since we are watching The lord of the Rings on Wed..we are skipping tuesday night firth night again this week....Blasphemy! I know. In the mean time I think I'm going to watch a little bit of Mr. F. Darcy to tie me over... I shall conquer this! I shall!!! oh I can't wait to see some location pictures of ODB as Vermeer.....just thinking about it puts a smile on my face :-D Good luck everyone with the Christmas shopping if you haven't finished already...I certainly haven't....and all the preparations for the festivities!

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sorry...testing to see if the tags are closed...gaawwwd I'm a mess..

(Jeanie)attempting to look around the room discreetly) Mighty quiet in here.. Well, this is how I normally feel. Most of the fun seems to happen when I'm sleeping (where I am the time is now 11.15 p.m.) - but a girl can be lucky (as the Santa and Tress). I didn't just want to take up space for this, so now heres a question to all you experts. On the MSNwebsite, there was a listing for Apartment Zero on DVD. The link was to Amazon, but I couldn't find anything. I know, that even if it is there, it will probably be american region, but I still hope for that multiplayer eventually. So is it out on DVD???? And as to the heating up - ohh my problem is quite the opposite. I'm still going through some of the old postings, and there is plenty of heat for me (but I can't get enough, so please - bring it on).

this is my last attempt, if this doesn't work, PLEASE HELP crossing my fingers...

Yura, you may stop now. The italics have been closed.

Thanks Karen, sorry about that.... feeling very embarassed.. :-(

(yura)We've had to cancel our tuesday night firth night last week an.... You are lucky to have some friends, who shares this "little fling" with you. Here's an example, what I have to put up with. A colleague of mine loved both P&P and BJD, so I suggested, that she borrowed MLSF (I had just bought it and loved it). When she returned it, I asked what she thought of it. The answer: Try seing, where I stopped the tape. I didn't bother to finish it. All my hopes for a fellow ODB-fan where chrushed. So, think of all of your "friends in spirit", when you have to watch alone. That'll do you!

(Annette) On the MSNwebsite, there was a listing for Apartment Zero on DVD. The link was to Amazon, but I couldn't find anything. I know, that even if it is there, it will probably be american region, but I still hope for that multiplayer eventually. So is it out on DVD???? I've had basically the same experience - have seen references to it being available on DVD, but when I've gone to sites to look for it, haven't seen it offered. If anybody knows anything else, I'd love to hear it. I just re-watched it recently. It's a very strange and creepy movie, but my main reaction is to be blown away by Colin's work in this film. And it's especially fascinating to watch the Jack/Adrian dynamic - lots of chemistry, and so much subtext!

AZ is an excellent film. Have you read our discussion?

I haven't yet read your discussion of AZ. As new to the board I still have lot of ground to get covered, so I started with the ones on the buckets main page. I have stumbled across others, surfing the older topics, but if anyone has a "directory" that tells a little of which topics and responses the discussions start, I would be very grateful. As to the DVD, another firthweb-site also have a listing (without link), that AZ is released on DVD. Has anyone asked there for information? Same site states, that LE is out on both regions, which I'm sorry doesn't seem to be right. So - perhaps it is all just wishful thinking?

The AZ discussion has not been edited or put up on The Bucket. You would have to read it in its raw form on Topic 98; it starts here: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/98.1763 I've always felt that if you have a question about something posted at another site, it is best to ask a person associated with that site. Galls me when people question items posted at Drool or The Bucket and don't bother to email me for clarification if they don't understand. Looks like the blind leading the blind (no offense meant to vision-impaired persons). I go to the source, but that's just my way of doing things.

(Annette) On the MSNwebsite, there was a listing for Apartment Zero on DVD. The link was to Amazon, but I couldn't find anything. I know, that even if it is there, it will probably be american region, but I still hope for that multiplayer eventually. So is it out on DVD???? There is a listing for AZ on DVD at Ebay today...Is it for real? Non so...

Sounds to me like one of those import jobs, like the earlier Valmont DVD, which someone here purchased (MeredithP??). She said that was of poor quality. Eventually the real one was issued, but that would not necessarily be the case on AZ.

(Karen). I go to the source, but that's just my way of doing things That's normally also my way of approaching subjects. I was actually thinking of doing just that, but I thought being very new and unexperienced that someone in "this crowd" had already made the enquiry. So not to bother about the same subject and perhaps provide other newbies with informations, I chose to ask here first.

(MariaT) There is a listing for AZ on DVD at Ebay today...Is it for real? Non so... Two listings! I'm bidding on one...we'll see if I actually get it. One out of Washington and another out of Utah. Both have the same case...hmmm. I had actually seen one the other day and didn't bid, but now I'm curious (with two on ebay). I'm sure it is a copy and not an original, but it appears that someone is 'mass producing'.

(Karen)The AZ discussion has not been edited or put up on The Bucket. Sorry Karen, making explanations as to my "behaviour" I forgot to thank you for the link - so here it is. T H A N K Y O U!

Here it is at Barnes & Noble, but that is also where the "fake" Valmont was too: http://video.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?userid=527ZOVBBS9&EAN=96009047597 I can't remember if Meredith said her Valmont had chinese characters. ;-) BTW, I answer all my inquiries at The Bucket, unless the person is extremely rude and pushy. ;-)

Thanks Karen! from me too, for the link to the AZ discussion. I was wondering whether there were any AZ or early film discussions. I am having my own little CF 80's film festival, and have seen AC, AZ, Valmont & finishing on LE. What a treat it is. My fav has to be Richard, for being such a dear sweet(but naughty) boy, but the character where i find Colin's performance most impressive is Adrian. Like Rika, I find the film strange & creepy, but Colin's performance is really something else, and I find myself really sympathizing with his character. I remember a pic that was used to great effect for Lisa's UMS which featured Colin/Adrian 's eye and half hidden face, and was wondering where this pic came from. Now I finally know. Wish I could have seen this shot on the big screen. Judd and Valmont are great too, esp Valmont where CF is so fresh face gorgeous (I think V looks more beautiful than all the other ladies in the film). Now I must go hunt for more of his works done around this time. Not too impossible for me, I hope (in vain, i know).

(Andie)My fav has to be Richard LE/Richard is one of my favorites. He is so gorgeous and sweet in this. And loads of screen time as well. Not to mention the rest of the cast doing an excellent job. You just put me in the mood to watch this one again. But I really can't spare the time, but for Richard I'd do anything.*sigh*

(Andie) esp Valmont where CF is so fresh face gorgeous (I think V looks more beautiful than all the other ladies in the film). Agreed. I'd actually use that word ("Beautiful") to describe his appearance in a lot of his older films. Mind you, I think he's better looking today. (Karen) I've always felt that if you have a question about something posted at another site, it is best to ask a person associated with that site. What was odd about the AZ DVD situation was that I saw reference to its availability on a commercial web site, not a CF fan site. I don't remember where anymore (probably someplace like Moviefone). Yet when I tried to follow up and find the actual product on Amazon - even following the 'purchase' link offered by the site that said it was available - all that came up was the VHS version. I didn't pursue it - just figured the release date was probably wrong - and I totally forgot about it till Annette raised the question.

(Tress)Two listings! I'm bidding on one...we'll see if I actually get it I hope, you will let us know the quality, if you get it. I had planned for only Christmaspreparations this evening. Just zapped the tv-programmes a little before I got started. Here's what drove me to drool: Short clip from BJD showing only HG and RZ Video shown from Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves with Bryan Adams (and MEM) Video shown with LA's: There she goes Lettermann talking about Ryan Adams and coffee (and later about "stirring" and "lusty ladies") That was all the references I needed to go straight here and catch up. I know, really silly posting.

(Annette) I hope, you will let us know the quality, if you get it. Okay, Annette, I just got it...I'll let you know what it looks like since it appears that Barnes and Noble is selling copies as well. (Karen) I can't remember if Meredith said her Valmont had chinese characters. ;-) LOL...I'm not holding my breath. But a girl can dream (at least for 3-7 days until it arrives). Thanks for the AZ discussion link. Looking forward to reading it. BTW, just finished my first viewing of Nostromo and ODB shows some fairly obvious leftist tendencies...;-D

(Tress)BTW, just finished my first viewing of Nostromo and ODB shows some fairly obvious leftist tendencies...;- You just had to say that didn't you? I'm here trying to be good, Santa coming and all that... But, I just have to jump in and say, as far as Nostromo, yes, the left seems to dominate. And thanks for the AZ news. I'll be anxious to hear about the quality, too.

(lindak) You just had to say that didn't you? I'm here trying to be good, Santa coming and all that... LOL...yeah!! I know how to summon the Googie Goddess! BTW, we'll probably both get lumps of coal in our stockings for all the naughty thoughts brought on by ODB in 'that scene' in Nostromo! Made watching the movie worth it! 6 hours of plot for 30 seconds of... ;-)

(Tress)BTW, we'll probably both get lumps of coal in our stockings for all the naughty thoughts brought on by ODB in 'that scene' in Nostromo! I guess you can count me too, since I kinda draw your attention in that direction (that is Nostromo, not the umentionable....;-)) Another btw, I bumbed into Santa from the main page, and he left me with a little greeting. I left it on the help-topic (response 979 and 980). Enjoy! (Perhaps I only dreamt, that I bumbed into him, but then again, it is the season for dreams coming true....)

Ladies, what to an "IBM" Companion for the holiday? If you are handsome enough to tempt me, I'm all yours. Happy Holidays!

Woops, I meant "what to buy an "IBM" Companion for the holiday?"

Another woops, I meant "want to buy an "IBM" Companion for the holiday?" I really should post more often :-(

(Annie) I really should post more often :-( Please do! Especially if you are going to bring such a welcome 'guest'! LOL....IBM, indeed!

(Andie)My fav has to be Richard, for being such a dear sweet(but naughty) boy, but the character where i find Colin's performance most impressive is Adrian. I agree with you Andie, Richard is my favorite too, but one of his greatest performances IMO is Adrian, hands down. (Andie) esp Valmont where CF is so fresh face gorgeous (I think V looks more beautiful than all the other ladies in the film). LOL. I was thinking this last night when I watched Valmont. He is more beautiful and glamorous than the ladies in the film. Thanks for the lovely pic Annie.

(Andie)My fav has to be Richard, for being such a dear sweet(but naughty) boy, but the character where i find Colin's performance most impressive is Adrian. (Pam)I agree with you Andie, Richard is my favorite too, but one of his greatest performances IMO is Adrian, hands down. Wow...all you new folks on the block sure have all the new DVDs. How much does Lost Empires cost?If only the boss had quit asking for $$$$ I would have bought mine. Now I have to wait..:-((( *busily cutting coupons*

I just recieved a care package from America where I have an assortment of CF films to add to my small collection. I got Valmont, Hostage, Conspiracy, HOTP, and everyone's fav...Londinium! So far I have viewed Valmont and HOTP so I can now comment on these 2. Right from the beginning of Valmont I was hooked. I agree, CF is a vision, AFG, his clothes, his deportment!, his speech. It is all there. But the cast in the film was superb. I forgot to make dinner I was so engrossed in it. I continually tried to compare it to DL but it has been so long since I saw it. And I kept trying to remember JM so I could compare his performance to CF's. One thing I can say is it was dark vs. light...with Valmont giving a light and breezy feel despite the darkness of the storyline. There was one actor that I felt was a strange casting choice, and the performance bugged me throughout the film. I found the actor somewhat unbelievable in the part, not the least by the physical appearance. Do you know who I mean?

(Lisa) Do you know who I mean? It's the end of a looooong day for me, so you might want to spell it out :) How lucky you are to get such a gift! Agreed, he's AFG in Valmont; check him out in Conspiracy--yummy 1930's (?) clothes, but oh, the things his character says! Very disturbing. An excellent performance by CF (he was nommed for an Emmy) and the whole cast as well. Enjoy your film festival!

(Annie)I meant "want to buy an "IBM" Companion for the holiday?" Oh, yeah. I'd pay extra for our IBM. (Tress)BTW, we'll probably both get lumps of coal in our stockings for all the naughty thoughts brought on by ODB in 'that scene' in Nostromo! LOL, my stocking isn't big enough, Santa is bringing me an entire coal mine. I've been v. naughty:-)

(Lisa) There was one actor that I felt was a strange casting choice, and the performance bugged me throughout the film. Okay, my guess is Jeffrey Jones. Ferris Bueller's principal...he was also in that 'other' Forman film as Emperor Joseph II. I thought he was an odd choice for both films. I thought that Henry Thomas was an odd choice as well (not the strongest actor IMO, but oh-so-much better than Keanu in the same role). I love ODB as Valmont. It is fun to compare it to DL (I do believe that both have their pros and cons), John Malkovich was 'over the top' evil and not at all the dish that ODB was...I liked ODB's performance much better! And I agree with moonstar regarding Conspiracy! A stand out performance by ODB and the rest of the cast. Beautifully acted. I can offer nothing but condolences regarding L'dum (but you really MUST read the discussion if you haven't already. It made viewing the movie well worth it). Another good one is Hostages. One of my favorites (and you get CF skin as an extra bonus)! Lucky girl to have so many 'new' movies to watch!! Have fun (but don't forget about us....some of us are quite anxious regarding a certain chapter (BTW thank for the teaser)).

LOL Annie, RE: IBM I can see why you could get a little flustered posting that! (Valmont) Do you know who I mean ? Lisa, Would that be Annette Benning that seems to be miscast? Her voice is way overcoached and artificial sounding(which we could infer by Forman's interview of repeated micromanaged takes), but her appearance is very French. N'est-ce Pas? Isn't he divine in all that powder blue? Oh swoon! It was just on AMC recently, couldn't help sneaking a peak. And that smooch at the end w/Annette after Meg rejects him. Very intense eye contact there.

(lindak) LOL, my stocking isn't big enough, Santa is bringing me an entire coal mine. Oh, now! Don't think like that! Be positive. Santa should bring you a whole silver mine (and maybe he'll wear a wet shirt for you and give you a little tour)!!! ;-D

(Lisa) There was one actor that I felt was a strange casting choice, and the performance bugged me throughout the film. I found the actor somewhat unbelievable in the part, not the least by the physical appearance. Do you know who I mean? (Tress) Okay, my guess is Jeffrey Jones. Ferris Bueller's principal...he was also in that 'other' Forman film as Emperor Joseph II. I thought he was an odd choice for both films. I thought that Henry Thomas was an odd choice as well (not the strongest actor IMO, but oh-so-much better than Keanu in the same role) I'd vote for Jeffrey Jones being the culprit. He was my first thought. HT was rather a strange choice, too, but he didn't bother me. I liked AB, and didn't mind her voice although many have complained about it.

(Valmont) Do you know who I mean ? (Lisa), Would that be Annette Benning that seems to be miscast? Colin would not agree, but I thought Meg T was the miscast. I found her truly annoying, and not handsome enough to tempt him. ;-) Annette B played it very well. Subtle evil, jealous, flirty, as Kathleen said, very French. Geoffrey is one of my fav. He was brilliant in TEP.

I know who else was miscast in Valmont. The servant at Valmont's aunt's house. The tall sort of spooky looking guy (as they eat breakfast the morning after). Have seen him before don't know his name.

(Moon)I thought Meg T was the miscast. I found her truly annoying, and not handsome enough to tempt him. ;-) Absolutely agree. And in that faux french accent kept screeching: "Valmon"..."Valmon". In his bio Milos Forman said he promised MT that he would cast her in his next pic(V.) after she fell on location and had to drop out of Amadeus.

he promised MT that he would cast her in his next pic(V.) after she fell on location and had to drop out of Amadeus. She would have been miscast there too. I assume this was the Frau Mozart role.

(kathleen) The tall sort of spooky looking guy (as they eat breakfast the morning after). Have seen him before don't know his name. I wasn't going to rest until I figured out his name...Vincent Schiavelli. He was also in Amadeus. While looking that up, I stumbled on something else I thought was interesting (and many of you probably already know this...but it completely escaped me until about 5 minutes ago). Ian McNeice, who played Azolan in Valmont (Valmont's valet) also played Kopfler in Conspiracy! He's put on a few pounds. Had no idea that they were the same man...but now I don't see how I could have missed it. (Moon) I thought Meg T was the miscast. I agree with this as well. When Lisa said actor, I automatically thought of the men. But as far as the actresses go, MT was miscast IMO. She was very plain in the role (it was as if no one in the hair or make-up department got to her). I always see her as Chloe in The Big Chill (and I know that I shouldn't, but I can't help myself). I think I read a review that said she was 'bland' and I agree with that statement. (Moon) She would have been miscast there too. I assume this was the Frau Mozart role. Yes. She was to play Constanze. I think she would have be out of place in that role as well. Elizabeth Berridge did an outstanding job as her replacment in Amadeus.

(Kathleen) The tall sort of spooky looking guy (as they eat breakfast the morning after). Have seen him before don't know his name. I didn't know his name (thanks Tress) but I know where he's familiar from: he had a recurring role on Moonlighting (80s, Cybill Sheperd & Bruce Willis); I think he was the love interest of the secretary.

Ah Ha, you guys got it! At first I thought I might be the only one who thought so, but I was talking about Meg Tilly. Yes she wasn't pretty enough and I felt like I was listening to a dunce or a half-wit reciting lines most of the time. In fact her looks bugged me so much I started trying not to watch her when she came on screen. Something about the eyebrows! Or the hair. When I first saw JJ I thought, oh my why is he in that role, but as I watched I thought about it, I felt he fit it. And, he did ok in the fencing scenes too. And I recognized the servant, Vincent Schiavelli, from many films. He didn't bug me at all. I'm in the Annette Benning camp on this film. I thought she was prefect. Nasty, rotten, scheming, she really did a good job with the role IMO. And she looked fabulous. I want her bathtub! I wasn't paying too much attention to her Annette voice, which is a little unique!, because the film was a mix of accents anyways, and I was always thinking "Oh my God" whenever MT opened her mouth. But even MT couldn't ruin the film. I loved it. Such a shame about the whole history, especially for the actors. And yes, a powdered blue CF is very sexy, skinny legs and all.

Never thought about Meg T. not being pretty enough. I've heard her described as a classic Botticelli beauty. Angelic. Beauty is in the eye, I guess. Something got CF's attention in a big way! ;-) MT's voice got to me too (Msr. Le Valmont etc.) but not as much as AB (when she asks Jeffrey Jones what day they can get together...Wednesday? Thursday? Gaaah!) That whirly twirly love scene could have been enhanced too. Too much smiling not enough action. Biologically CF only has so much dimple time stored in each of those cheeks and Forman used way more than his ration. He owes me if CF runs out.

I've (finally) uploaded the old film discussion on Hostages to firth.com and I've added a little treat that wasn't there before. ;-) http://www.firth.com/filmdis/hos/host-part1.html

Karen, Very nice, thanks! I don't know what the treat was as I am embarrassed to admit I hadn't looked at it before. But it was all nice!

May I just say that the 3rd pic down in Pt 1 immediately brought up some naughty thoughts and images for me (imagine my hand(s)on his back). Thank goodness it's not close to bedtime...sleep might be elusive. ;-) Yes, thanks Karen for posting that....oh, and the discussion, too. ;-)

(Kathleen), I've heard her described as a classic Botticelli beauty. Angelic. Whoever said this does not know Botticelli. LOL! Thanks, Karen!

Whoever said this does not know Botticelli, LOL LOL2. Moon, I meant Joey Botticelli from Long Island. Who were you thinking of? Would you buy Modigliani? ;-D

(Kathleen) I meant Joey Botticelli from Long Island. Didn't you really mean Joey Buttafuco from Long Island? ;-)

(Kathleen), I meant Joey Botticelli from Long Island. Who were you thinking of? LOL! Nevah hoid of 'im. Now, I'm totally confused! ;-) Would you buy Modigliani? ;-D Yes. But I would rather have a Botticelli. The classic Botticelli beauty is rather round, beautiful eyes, lovely flowing hair.

Can I say something in defense of MT? My DH certainly likes her - she does have a very delicate beauty. Although, apparently in real life, she's rather fiesty! - ODB obviously liked what he saw!! And I don't think she was the weakest actor - she was playing sweet and innocent, not too badly, IMHO.

(MoonDreams) Colin would not agree, but I thought Meg T was the miscast. I found her truly annoying, and not handsome enough to tempt him. ;-) Annette B played it very well. Subtle evil, jealous, flirty, as Kathleen said, very French. I'm with you Moon. I thought MT was horribly miscast. But I guess that's what fate is all about. Obviously she was meant to be there to meet and get Colin and she did just that. I thought AB was terrifically evil. She gave me chills. I hated her and that was good. (Kathleen) LOL2. Moon, I meant Joey Botticelli from Long Island. Who were you thinking of? LOL Kathleen. IMO could be the only plausable comparison.

(Janet)Can I say something in defense of MT? I must say, that since I saw the film first time this summer, with eyes for nothing but ODB, I didn't find her that bad. I found it intriguing to wathc, knowing that they "ended up together". And again, I'm still too focused on ODB's performance (and perhaps looks, just at tiny bit) to form much oppinion of the other actors. I still haven't desided to be proud or embarrased to share my name with AB!

(Dorine)3rd pic down in Pt 1 immediately brought up some naughty thoughts and images for me (imagine my hand(s)on his back). Naughty girl, you just want to join the "I'm getting coal in my stocking crowd" ...and you know they stripped him nekkid later in that scene;-) IMO, MT isn't too bad, but I didn't like her in V. I thought she was a bit too delicate both physically and verbally to complement CF's characterization of V. I also didn't feel a whole lot of chemistry between them on screen. Off screen, however, it was obviously a different kettle of fish.

(Annette re: AZ) I hope, you will let us know the quality, if you get it. I just got my DVD copy of AZ. It's a keeper. It looks great. Color is much more crisp than my VHS copy. Sound is better. It is fullscreen (I prefer widescreen...but I guess you can't be too picky). There are no subtitles available. No goodies. It does have chapter selection, but only 8 chapters. Very good freeze frame, slo-mo stuff here!! I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but have been jumping around and 'pausing' at all the good anguished looks from ODB! Here is the link that Karen posted earlier this week for the DVD in case anyone is interested: http://video.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?WRK=3637653&userid=51SI3GEHQH

Re Hostages. Does anyone know if this is still available for sale? - I have seen it occasionally on Ebay (I assume second hand) at crazy prices.

Janet, I got my tape of Hostages at Videoflicks.ca. It took quite a while but they were able to supply. Price was v. reasonable.

(Janet) Re Hostages. Does anyone know if this is still available for sale? I see Hostages for sale at videoflicks.ca http://www.videoflicks.ca/titles/1042/1042591.htm?SHOW=1&TYPE=0&ASSN=V00001&ESID=XUUXAXXAAXVVVVEVURUUUU

Oh, it's so good to have time to read Drool again! I've been in grading hell for the past few days and got miserably behind. (Moon) She would have been miscast there too. I assume this was the Frau Mozart role. (Tress) Yes. She was to play Constanze. I think she would have be out of place in that role as well. Elizabeth Berridge did an outstanding job as her replacment in Amadeus. I recently got the Amadeus Director's Cut DVD (highly recommended to any Amadeus fans, BTW). The featurette talks about frantic last-minute search to replace MT after she was injured, and has a shot of her in costume and wig as Constanze. Milos Forman commented that in retrospect he felt that Berridge was better for the part.

(Rika)Oh, it's so good to have time to read Drool again! I've been in grading hell for the past few days and got miserably behind. Rika, good to have you back. Happy to know you are finally finished. Sure missed your captures, they certainly give a girl something to think about while she's waiting for Santa;-)Frankly, I'm a little tired of shopping and wrapping, and I could use a little, um, diversion Tress, thanks for the link, just ordered my DVD of AZ.

Well, now that the Semester From Hell is over, I thought I'd better do something before I lose my title as the DVDiva. And with the holidays upon us, it seemed appropriate to spend a bit of time exploring..... First up, we have the ever-popular turtleneck jumper, with a little holiday twist: a festive reindeer motif. Hard to see the details? Yes - let's try a close-up. Note the dark, wavy hair; the intense, brown eyes; the troubled expression.... oh, wait, we're supposed to be discussing the jumper! Let's try again: Mmmmmmm, nice profile...... oh, I did it again! Okay, once more: Wearing this bold design, the successful barrister is sure to make an unforgettable first impression at any holiday party! Now let's get a rear view of the barrister.... I mean, the jumper: See what I mean about the unforgettable first impression? Ding DONG. Well, that's all we have time for today. Tune in tomorrow for the next chapter of

Rika - it's so good to see, sorry I mean hear from you again. Glad that you have found the christmasspirit after your turn to ......

Holiday Fashions for Barristers Dear Sir or Madame: My what an impressive line you have this season! I would like to order. One ever-popular turtleneck sweater in the green, some dark wavy hair, some intense brown eyes and a lovely profile. Would the matching grey slacks also be available? Please send COD. I'll be waiting on my porch. GAAH! RIKA -Great to have you back. K. Janet - My DH certainly like her (MT) So does mine but it has something to do with twisting herself into a pretzel in Big Chill. K.

(Kathleen) So does mine but it has something to do with twisting herself into a pretzel in Big Chill. I've always suspected that was the reason. ;-) Very cute, Rika.

Great stuff, Rika, thanks! Colin and his jumper were singled out in an article in yesterday's Philly Inquirer on bad Christmas sweaters.

Thanks, Rika! I seem to be having a hard time tearing myself away from picture #2. Note the dark, wavy hair; the intense, brown eyes; the troubled expression.... oh, wait, we're supposed to be discussing the jumper! The look, the cleft... AFG!!

Chestnuts roasting on an open fire Jack Frost nipping at your nose Yule-tide carols being sung by a choir And folks dressed up like Eskimos. Everybody knows a turkey curry and some mistletoe Help to make the season bright The WoD (that's Women of Drool) with their eyes all aglow Will find it hard to sleep tonight. THANK YOU RIKA!

(Kathleen) Would the matching grey slacks also be available? Please send COD. I'll be waiting on my porch. GAAH! Regret to inform you that grey slacks are.... well, back-ordered. But have the following item available in grey, from our "Sleepwear for the Football-Obsessed" catalog. Would this be an acceptable alternative? Please advise.

Welcome to today's installment of: Today's topic: neckwear. What could be more festive than a holiday-themed necktie? And we have a fine specimen to show you. What? You say you can't see the necktie? And you actually CARE about that???? Well, okay..... There. You can see a little bit of the tie. As well as some nice eyelashes. But we really should check out the necktie in more detail..... I suppose. Here, take your pick: This is a special tie, by the way. If someone squeezes the barrister - I mean, the tie - hard enough, he - I mean, it - makes noises! Well, that's all we have time for today. Thanks for joining us for today's episode of: And a very Merry Christmas to all those celebrating it this coming week!

Thank you, Rika! It's too bad the Successful Barrister didn't get any reindeer boxers for Christmas! I guess we'll have to be content with the grey ones from the "Sleepwear for the Football-Obsessed" catalog. Not a hardship at all, IMO.

Oh thank you Rika. I see you are back in full DVDiva mode. You know how much I love Mark. Wot a treat. Forget the jumper and tie, just send Mark Darcy...Federal Express, Overnight delivery. I'll pay extra.

Thank you, Rika! I second all the postings of both reindeer boxers, Mark Darcy express and so forth......... A very merry Christmas to all of you.

Oh Rika, how I've missed you....and your pics! My fav of the lots over the 2 installments has to be tie picture number three. That's when Bridget starts her prattling, I think. That look is wonderfully amazing and melts my butter! Other other tie pic just before, number two, is a very close second. There is something about CF when he looks down in those shots that just, well, makes you wish the two of you were on a desert island for an indefinite period of time! Alone. Several cases of champers, sunblock and nothing else. ;) Thanks very much. Happy Holidays to everyone!

LOL RIKA please advise Dear Holiday Fashions for the Successful Barrister : Yes!! I will take a substitution from the "Sleepwear for the Football-Obsessed Catalog". Cannot quite make out all detail.Will you please send them for my FREE 30-day trial closer inspection. I understand my 100% satisfaction is guaranteed. Still waiting on porch! Also a very big fan of eyelashes, frown lines and that little vein that pops above his left eye from time to time. Ah, the maturing man! Just gets better and better. Thanks Rika Happy Holidays Everyone

Rika, did you notice the make-up on him? You can see the under-eye concealer and I believe he even has mascara on the upper lashes. Thanks! And a very Happy Xmas to all!

Rika!!! Blowing kisses your way... What a great start to a day that seems silly to be at work! Squeeze the barrister indeed!! Thank you!! Um, are there any plans for your catalog to showcase the Successful Barrister/Wealthy Landowner/Football Obsessed in clothing two sizes too small? Just a thought...

Rika, thank you so much for these wonderful Christmas-pictures. I love the one when he is looking down best, I'm simply melting. did you notice the make-up on him? You can see the under-eye concealer and I believe he even has mascara on the upper lashes. My, Moon, you must have very good eyes to see that. I can't see it even when I look for it ;-)

THANK YOU SO MUCH RIKA What great pics and comments. I'd like to find him under my tree and would squeeze every part of him. HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE!!

Rika, I think I like it when you are on holiday break...nothing like being out of school to make the teacher giddy! Keep it up! Your pics are brilliant choices! **especially the yummy tie ones!!** Thanks so much!

An old one resurrected: Twas the night before Xmas, when all through Firthworld Not a person was stirring, under covers they curled. The stockings were hung by the great chimney with care In hopes that Lord Wessex soon would be there; The ladies were nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of Colins danced in their heads; And Karen in her kerchief, and Evie in her cap, Had just settled their brains for a long winter�s nap, When out in the courtyard there arose such a clatter, We sprang from our beds to see what was the matter. Away to the window we flew like a flash, Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash. The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow Gave a luster of midday to objects below, When, what should we see on that night cold and chilly? But a opulent carriage and seven sleek fillies, With a tall dark haired driver so handsome and sexy, We knew in a minute it must be Lord Wexy. More rapid than eagles his coursers they came, And he whistled and shouted, and called them by name: "Now Lizzie! Now Julie! Now Chirsty! now Meg! On, Nancy! On, Katherine, on Viola � shake a leg! To the top of the ramparts! To the top of the wall! Now Dash away! Dash away! Dash away all!" As dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly, When they meet with an obstacle, mount to the sky, So up to the Towers the coursers they flew With the carriage full of goodies � And Lord Wessex too. And then, in a twinkling, we heard on the roof The prancing and pawing of each little hoof. As we drew in our heads, and were turning around, Down the chimney Lord Wessex came with a bound. He was dressed all in velvet from his head to his foot, And his clothes were all tarnished with ashes and soot; A bundle of goodies he had on his back, And he looked like the Kingly Head of the Pack. His eyes � how they sparkled, his dimples so keen! His cheeks were like roses, his legs long and lean, His large mobile mouth was drawn up in a grin And the beard on his chin was darker than sin; The candlelight lit his smiling white teeth, And a white ruff encircled his neck like a wreath. He had a small waist, and a whole lot of pep, And he walked with a swaggering, rollicking step. He was elegant, daring, a right handsome old thing, And we laughed when he saw him, and wanted to sing! A wink of his eye, and a twist of his head, Soon gave us to know we had nothing to dread; He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work And filled all the stockings; then turned with a jerk; And laying his fist against mouth (nothing new!) And giving a nod, up the chimney he flew. He sprang to his carriage, to his team gave a whistle, And away they all flew like the down of a thistle. But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight, "I�ll see you next year, Luvs, but for now, A Good Night!

With a tall dark haired driver so handsome and sexy, We knew in a minute it must be Lord Wexy. LOL.The One and Only. Thanks for re-posting that one Murph and for the greeting on O&E

Happy Holidays, everyone.

Thank you Rika! All necktie pics are perfection...that dimpled chin (I grow weak in its presence) I am assuming that the Barrister fashions are on back order. Is it possible to get a rain check? I believe Kathleen is still waiting on the porch for her order (I hope you are bundled up Kathleen). I will content myself by waiting for the next catalog by the fireplace with some hot buttered rum. Is it possible to pre-order? I have in mind a barrister in a grey turtleneck with a long trench coat. Just wondering! Happy Holly-Days to All!!

Thanks Karen for making this topic! Googie girls Rule!! As does our lovely DVD Diva, Thanks, Rika!!!

Thanks for the poem Murph had never seen it. Very clever. Happy Holidays Everyone.

I hope everybody had a great Christmas! Ours was even slightly white.... but it's good to be back home again. I'm glad you all enjoyed my little Christmas gift in the form of a fashion expo. (Lisa) My fav of the lots over the 2 installments has to be tie picture number three. That's when Bridget starts her prattling, I think. Close, but not quite. That's his look in Bridget's direction when his father explains that Mark is going to be moving to NY for the new job. Other other tie pic just before, number two, is a very close second. There is something about CF when he looks down in those shots that just, well, makes you wish the two of you were on a desert island for an indefinite period of time! Alone. Several cases of champers, sunblock and nothing else. ;) That's pretty much the effect it has on me, hence its inclusion among the photos! (Kathleen) Yes!! I will take a substitution from the "Sleepwear for the Football-Obsessed Catalog". Cannot quite make out all detail.Will you please send them for my FREE 30-day trial closer inspection. I understand my 100% satisfaction is guaranteed. Kathleen, will do my best with your shipment. As to the 100% satisfaction guarantee...... no, I'm not touching that one with a ten-foot pole. ;-) (Moon) Rika, did you notice the make-up on him? You can see the under-eye concealer and I believe he even has mascara on the upper lashes. You might be right about the make-up - I didn't notice. All I can say is, I wish under-eye concealer and mascara made ME look that delectable. (Maria) Um, are there any plans for your catalog to showcase the Successful Barrister/Wealthy Landowner/Football Obsessed in clothing two sizes too small? I think Maria is on to something here, particularly when it comes to the football obsessed. Thanks for the poem, Murph!

Rika, I am DVDelirious over the Barrister holiday line. I'm willing to back order only if the model is included with the attire. Think I�ll pass on the yob in his underpants. Murph, v. clever poem.

(Tress) Is it possible to pre-order? I have in mind a barrister in a grey turtleneck with a long trench coat. Don't worry, it's not my intention to keep doing this forever. In fact, the snowman episode was to be the last. But Tress made a request, and as you know I do take requests. So that means it's time for an episode of: Yes, the successful barrister needs to bundle up, yet still look stylish, in the cold winter months. And what better choice than a gray turtleneck under a dark overcoat? Here, you'll see what I mean: Ah, yes. Warm, stylish, and absolutely edible. I know you're waiting for a close-up so you can carefully inspect the color and the quality of the knit fabric. Too bad, because that's not the kind of close-up I have in mind! This is the perfect ensemble for so many purposes. For example, neck nuzzling: Leaning in for a kiss: Checking out reading material: Catching up on your reading: Going for a brisk walk: Leaning in for another kiss: Wrapping someone else in the coat with you: Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.................................. And on that note, we come to the end of this episode of:

RIKA!!!!! I've just fallen off my chair!!!!!!!!!!!! I can still see the monitor so will be quite content as I can view ODB....I mean the turtleneck and coat that I wish to order! Will take it all! Please send express (will pay extra for immediate delivery). Am particularly taken with picture number 2...the dimples, I mean ribbing on the turtle neck make it a fine specimen of ....well, ribbing. The last picture clearly illustrates proper use for a large overcoat, so glad to see it included in the winter line. Thank you so much for sharing your holiday and winter fashions. I anxiously await your Spring catalog! ;-)

Rika, I just love your latest fashion selection! - Pic 2 especially! Thanks for all the wonderful screen captures you've done over the past few months. - I'll have to learn how to do them! And to everyone, I'd like to wish you all a wonderful Christmas holiday and a peaceful New Year.

WOW! Rika, your fashion series is truely wonderful. Thanks so much! I love all of them, esp the latest series (my fav nuzzling and perfect side profile scene). Sure adds to the season cheers. But...what do you mean to say that its not your intention to keep doing this (wonderful thing) forever?? Do think of your fashion fans! :-) I too am looking forward to your spring collection. Will you be looking for a new model? How abt a spring fashion showcase for A Wealthy Landowner? Thanks also to everyone for another wonderful year here. Have a very Happy New Year!

(Andie) How abt a spring fashion showcase for A Wealthy Landowner? I'll give it some thought.... after all, there are a couple of wealthy landowners from which to choose.....

Bringing you up to date: Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 793 of 814: MariaT (poostophles) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (13:47) 3 lines Blockbuster survey New Years Eve Dream date...CF #2 behind Vin Diesel???... http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/021227/daf005_1.html Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 794 of 814: lindak (lindak) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (14:59) 7 lines (Tress) Is it possible to pre-order? I have in mind a barrister in a grey turtleneck with a long trench coat. I want it all, one in every size and color. And I want two of the "catching up on your reading" model. Rika, you are the best. Thank you. Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 795 of 814: Jeanie (Firthermore) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (15:07) 1 lines Thanks, Rika, for posting another lovely series of captures.. especially "The Grunt Scene". (laughing) I hope everyone had a great Christmas. I've been bunkered down, here. I actually went four days without checking my email until my box overflowed and I stopped receiving messages, so if you've sent something and it's been returned, please send again, oksey? (huggling everyone affectionately) Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 796 of 814: MariaT (poostophles) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (15:51) 3 lines (Jeannie) Thanks, Rika, for posting another lovely series of captures.. especially "The Grunt Scene". (laughing) LOL "The Grunt Scene" I love that!! I wish I had an empty fireplace and could rig a tv that just fit inside of it with the grunt scene playing over and over...Actually this brings to mind what could be a fun "avant garde" art show..There could be many of these type fireplace/window/medicine chest/microwave/empty sink monitors up in a gallery designed as a home. Favored scenes would replay on the monitors, and speakers hung in darkened rooms would whisper favored lines "I like you, just as you are", " on foot?", "Say my name", "Would you please please please just ***king ***k off!". Male models would parade about the room in "Winter fashions for the successful barrister" ,and Arsenal boxers, and etc. etc...Muffins and espresso could be served...Getting carried away... Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 797 of 814: Rika (Rika) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (16:19) 2 lines Problem is, where would you find enough male models with the right attributes? I think it's back to that cloning idea again. Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 798 of 814: Annette (anjo) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (16:23) 5 lines (Rika)Problem is, where would you find enough male models with the right attributes? I think it's back to that cloning idea again. I was just about to post, that if it wasn't "the real one", it had no interest whatsoever - but if you get the cloning part going again, I would love to join you. And Rika, thank you for all the wonderful captures from the world of fashion. For once in my life I might actually try to keep up, at least with men-fashion. Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 799 of 814: MariaT (poostophles) Fri, Dec 27, 2002 (16:40) 5 lines (Rika) Problem is, where would you find enough male models with the right attributes? I think it's back to that cloning idea again. You can't...But...They could be made to hold up ODB on a stick masks and well, the whole idea is silly but you would just have to drink a great deal of wine and have fun with it... Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 800 of 814: KathyF (kathness) Sat, Dec 28, 2002 (01:52) 3 lines Rika, what a thoroughly delicious sampler of Winter Fashions for the Successful Barrister! I can't decide which one I like best, as all are very scrumptious. Once again I ask myself why Bridget would feel the need to go find tiny knickers at a moment like that?! Such a silly girl! Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 801 of 814: FanPam (FanPam) Sun, Dec 29, 2002 (09:18) 6 lines Thanks for great pics Rika. As usual an outstanding job. (Kathy) Once again I ask myself why Bridget would feel the need to go find tiny knickers at a moment like that?! Such a silly girl! I agree Kathy, one of the great mysteries of the Universe. If she knew how to read her man, she would have realized they wouldn't have been on long enough for him to even notice what kind they were, IMO. If only I were Bridget he would have had his clothes off so fast, his head would have been spinning. No games, just give the man what he had come for, meanwhile making me the happiest of women. Such a silly girl, indeed. Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 802 of 814: lindak (lindak) Sun, Dec 29, 2002 (18:55) 4 lines (Pam)No games, just give the man what he had come for, meanwhile making me the happiest of women. Such a silly girl, indeed. Well said. Ditto! Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 803 of 814: Annette (anjo) Sun, Dec 29, 2002 (19:07) 4 lines I don't know, if it is the right topic, but since I'm drooling all over, I'll post here: Karen - thank you for bringing my dreamdate for New Years Eve. As to the various statements about underpants - well, for what I have in mind for my date, they are not needed at all. Happy New Year everybody!!!! Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 804 of 814: Lisa (freddie) Sun, Dec 29, 2002 (20:40) 3 lines DIMPLE ALERT!!!! Oh thanks for the great New Years Pic Karen........... Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 805 of 814: lindak (lindak) Sun, Dec 29, 2002 (20:50) 4 lines Yes, sorry boss. Forgot to say thank you for sending us ODB all ready for his New Years Eve dates. Notice I said dates. I'll share;-) I'll be away for a few days so just want to say an early Happy New Year to everyone. Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 806 of 814: Annette (anjo) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (07:27) 2 lines Taking a break from cleaning, I put on SLOW to get a little eye-candy. Something puzzled me, that I hadn't noticed before. When Matthew picks up Sam after school, he says to him: Stop looking like an Oxfam poster and come and have some icecream! Where do you think that came from, ODB or the writer? Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 807 of 814: kathleen (townranny) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (14:36) 10 lines Rika, Rika, Rika!!! Gaaah!!!Way behind in my reading again. Almost missed the entire Winter Fashions for successful Barristers series. Lovely, lovely, lovely. I do miss the Barrister most in winter don't you? When the snow starts falling it's time for Mark D. That's all there is to it. He's been on the Kathleen Theater a lot lately. Thanks, Rika!! MariaT : RE:Microwaves saying,"I like you just as you are", "on foot?" , "Wot?" Let's get those GE appliance engineers working on this. I'd spend a whole lot more time in the kitchen. That's for sure!!!! Annette: RE: SLOW, stop looking like an Oxfam poster and come and get some ice cream. I thought that was a bit of an odd thing to say too. don't know who's idea it was. Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 808 of 814: Lora (Lora) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (02:14) 6 lines I've been catching up on this thread and came across this entry: (Dorine)I believe it was me who commented on the "mirror image". Thanks soooo much! A very brief scene with something about it that really amuses me. And I was sure I was the first to make an entry of this observation somewhere: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/126.1451 Hey one must always have something sensational to read on the train/web ;-) Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 809 of 814: Lora (Lora) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (02:17) 4 lines Have a happy healthy New Year everyone! And thanks for all the lovely snow pictures, Rika! Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 810 of 814: AdaVW (shdwmoon) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (20:14) 9 lines Was looking to see what was going to be on TV-NOW in Jan and saw this item, I just had to share; NATALIE PORTMAN: You probably already have plans for New Year's Eve. Portman might want to check with the folks at Blockbusters to see what her agenda for the festive night should include. According to a recent poll taken at the mega video store's online site, movie fans around the nation think that the lovely actress and Vin Diesel are America's favorite fantasy New Year's Eve dates. Portman edged out Halle Berry for the top female spot, while Diesel easily dominated Colin Firth. Don't expect both stars to really be available to help you ring in 2003. Give Berry or Firth a call instead. Anybody have CF's number? Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 811 of 814: KJArt (KJArt) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (22:30) 4 lines Does anybody find it a co-incidence that VD's new DVD release (and rental)through Blockbuster was scheduled for today before the poll was taken?? Hmmmm. Undue influence, maybe?? ;-) (Droll take of this "video of the week" on UPI at): http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021230-051117-6587r Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 812 of 814: KJArt (KJArt) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (22:54) 4 lines Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 813 of 814: lindak (lindak) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (16:50) 5 lines (Article)Give Berry or Firth a call instead. Wonderful suggestion, indeed! Topic 166 of 172: 'Introduction to Firthology (101) - a survey course' Resp 814 of 814: Rika (Rika) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (00:01) 2 lines In honor of Dorine's birthday, please join us on Odds & Ends (168) for a Victorian Tea Party and Fashion Show. The tea will be supplied by Dorine's fellow Latte Divas (we're branching out from coffee), and the fashions and models are provided courtesy of the "Summer Fashions for the Wealthy Victorian Gentleman" catalog. Hope to see you there!

Well, that's what I get for having internet access only at work. I've been off for a couple of weeks, and now that I'm back, I can't see all of the wonderful sounding pics that Rika posted (SOB!!!). V. distressing, to say the least... While I was catching up at another (completely non-related) site, I came across a list of unusual holiday gifts on Miami Herald online; while the holidays have passed, I thought this one would amuse all you lovely ladies out there: apparently, a company has figured out how to put a photo on a chocolate bar. Imagine, CF & chocolate, all in one!! (BTW, my birthday is Jan. 16th, hint, hint) Here's the story from the Miami Herald: Chocolate Photograph, from Holiday Gift Guide by Dave Barry $30 plus shipping and handling from Hearts and Flowers Candy, 485 S. Broadway, Unit #19, Hicksville, N.Y. 11801, phone: 516-931-2155, Internet: www.firstchocolate.com Suggested by Evelyn Crawford of Greenville, N.C. Do you have a favorite photograph of a loved one? Would you like to display it in an attractive frame, and yet still be able, if the need arose, to eat it? If so, you are going to be very excited by this item. Thanks to important scientific advances in the field of chocolate, researchers have figured out a way, using food coloring, to put a photo -- supplied by you -- onto a half-pound chocolate bar in such a way that the whole shebang is actually edible! We tested this concept ourself by sending in a nice color photograph of Vice President Dick Cheney. We chose him because there is absolutely nothing funny about using his name in this context. But you can submit any photo you want. This will make a tasteful (Ha ha!) gift for anybody on your gift list. And of course you'll want to get one for yourself -- maybe a photo of your family, to keep on your desk at the office. When your boss compliments you on how nice your loved ones look, you can reply: ''Thanks! Would you like a bite of them?'' This puts you on the fast track to promotion.

(moonstar)''Thanks! Would you like a bite of them?'' This puts you on the fast track to promotion. LOL and whatever. I'm also at work (on my way home), and would love one of those chocolatebars. I wouldn't want to share ODB with anyone though, not even for a promotion ;-)

(moonstar) I've been off for a couple of weeks, and now that I'm back, I can't see all of the wonderful sounding pics that Rika posted (SOB!!!). V. distressing, to say the least... They may reappear later. My web space hasn't been moved to the new server yet. I'm hoping it'll happen soon (insert energetic tapping-of-foot noise, hoping Terry will hear).

(Rika) My web space hasn't been moved to the new server yet. I'm hoping it'll happen soon (insert energetic tapping-of-foot noise, hoping Terry will hear). Forget energetic tapping-of-foot noise, how about banshee-like wail of DVDeprived drooleurs? Be afraid, be very afraid.

(Moonstar) But you can submit any photo you want... Would a picture of "The Whopper" be acceptable. Would the manufacturer approve?

Today I found an interview with RW about TIOBE that I don't know if we ever had posted here. I think I would have remembered the "Colorado" remark (see below). These are excerpts from the "Interview of the Week" by Karen Butler of the UPI Life & Mind Desk, 5/2/2002: ----------------------- So, how was it working with Colin Firth ("Bridget Jones's Diary") and Dame Judi Dench ("Iris," "Shakespeare in Love,") actors known for taking their jobs very seriously. "Well, Colin is just so self-effacing, that you just immediately are just like, 'He's so great.' But, Judi, I was really, really nervous because she's Judi Dench... She has a few awards on her shelves. But, she was so wonderful, too. She was exactly as I would hope she would be. She was gracious and kind. [Giggles.] The boys were always trying to tease her into talking bad about people and she never would. She was just: [Reese does spot-on impression of Judi Dench.] 'I absolutely refuse to talk about that. This is just silly. You should get to work.' It was fun. We had a really good time," Witherspoon recalled. [.....] ".....But, the costumes and the set design are so lush and beautiful. You always have something to look at when you can't understand what Colin Firth is saying because you don't understand what he's saying half the time. "Am I the only American who can't understand people [with accents] sometimes? Colin is so funny. He was talking about how he had to loop a lot of his lines. He was like [affecting a perfect Colin Firth imitation] 'I guess they didn't understand me in Colorado.' It's like: 'You need to slow down, darling, I can't understand a word you said," she stated. ------------------------- Link for the full article: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=02052002-125522-5354r

I remember it. Actually was just rereading around the time it was posted. Someone made a crack about or a mention of Coloradoans. I'd forgotten he had to loop so much. Maybe all that air whooshing in her head made it hard for her to hear him properly. ;-) Guess I shouldn't make cracks about her...which one of us is getting 5 to 15 million dollar paychecks. :(

I remember mention of the estate being directly under a flight path. That was at least part of the reason he had to 'loop so much.' :)

(Rika/Reese)He was talking about how he had to loop a lot of his lines Would someone please explaine what it means to "loop lines"? I cannot find any translation, that makes any sense at all.

I think it means he had to record his lines after the filming , in the studio.

(Dorine)Maybe all that air whooshing in her head made it hard for her to hear him properly. ;-) Wooshing? I like that. LOL. Did you have any trouble understanding him, Dorine? Apart from the loud music, that is.

To my knowledge, none of us have had difficulty understanding him anywhere. Not that I've read anywhere anyway.

The only time I've had trouble understanding him was in Fever Pitch. Maybe the hair distracted me? :P Nah, it was the dimples...

Or, the Arsenal Undies!

(moonstar) The only time I've had trouble understanding him was in Fever Pitch. Maybe the hair distracted me? :P Nah, it was the dimples... (Lisa) Or, the Arsenal Undies! For me it was the gray undies...everything after that was a blur. ;-)

(Tress) For me it was the gray undies...everything after that was a blur. ;-) You mean there's something after that?!! ;-)

(Tress) For me it was the gray undies...everything after that was a blur. ;-) LOL, true. But for me it started with the shoulder, grunt, and kiss...by the time I got to the grey undies...Thank goodness for subtitles.

My web space is more or less back in one piece again. So if anybody missed the Fashions for the Successful Barrister series over the holidays, you can back up in this topic to see it and the photos should all be there. Meanwhile, I'll be reposting parts 1-4 of Dorine's birthday tea party as soon as I figure out whether it should be here or on O&E.

Was looking around today - Found a site regarding the Physiognomy Of Men . ???There are lots of classes one can take regarding reading peoples faces and bodies..Reminded me of something someone (BarbS?) posted awhile back regarding the studying of people's gaits. They had this to say about areas we would be concerned with... Height A tall man is usually a symbol of good personality of man. A tall man with well proportioned body parts is lucky and leads a comfortable life. A short statured man is sexy in nature, often he is clever and cunning. Tall - Lucky Short - Clever Hair On Head If the hair on the head is jet black and thick, it shows a person who is endowed with mainly qualities. But when the hair is thin and black, such person is likely to be passionate. If the hair is reddish in color, it denotes that he will lead a life of comfort. But if the hair is thick and rough, he may be poor. If he has red colored hair, he may become the head of a section, community, army. Thick & Rough - Poor Red Colored - Leader Cheeks When the cheeks are raised, the person is selfish. If dimples are seen while laughing or talking, the subject will be wealthy and lucky. In case the cheeks are quite broad and fleshy, the person is destined to be a ruler, a wealthy man and will enjoy power. Dimples - Wealthy Raised - Selfish So lots of wealth and luck for ODB!!! And next week, I'll read all of your tea leaves!!!!

(Lisa) Or, the Arsenal Undies! (Tress) For me it was the gray undies...everything after that was a blur. ;-) LOL! I'm partial to those gray undies myself :) (Rika) So if anybody missed the Fashions for the Successful Barrister series over the holidays, you can back up in this topic to see it and the photos should all be there. Oooh, thank you so much! I felt very left out when I returned from Christmas holiday, and I couldn't see the pics, but could read all the drooling comments. Off to see the reputed Darcy eye-candy; yum!!

(Maria) Was looking around today - Found a site regarding the Physiognomy Of Men . ??? Maria!! Dying to know what your google keywords were! ...classes one can take regarding reading peoples faces and bodies Sign me up for the Braille one! If dimples are seen while laughing or talking, the subject will be wealthy and lucky. Explains six million for Love Actually!

A tall man with well proportioned body parts is lucky and leads a comfortable life. I think I'll take the class that concentrates in this area. Thank you, Maria. And Rika, I forgot to thank you on O&E for the gorgeous capture. I wonder how many we'll have of dashing Lord Dashwood by the time WAGW is out on DVD. You're doing just fine with the trailer;-)

If anybody missed the Fashions for the Successful Barrister series during the holidays and would like to see them, I've restored all of the missing photos and other graphics. You can view them by going back to their response numbers (761, 769, and 788). Meanwhile, though, we've got something new to do. Linda and I had the misfortune of trying to hold a birthday fashion show/Victorian tea party in honor of our fellow Latte Diva, Dorine, right when the move to the new server was going on. Karen and I thought that at this point it probably made the most sense to host the party here on Firthology. So let me start with the invitation:  In honor of Dorine's birthday, please join us for a Victorian Tea Party and Fashion Show. The tea will be supplied by Dorine's fellow Latte Divas (we're branching out from coffee), and the fashions and models are provided courtesy of the "Summer Fashions for the Wealthy Victorian Gentleman" catalog. Hope to see you there!

Tress would be delighted to accept the Rika's kind invitation to attend Latte Diva Dorine's Victorian Tea Party and Fashion Show. I am leaving the DH at home so only one will be attending. Thank you.

Would adore a tea and fashion show, but the date is not specified on the invitation, m'dear. Corsets are optional, yes? ;)

(moonstar)Would adore a tea and fashion show.. Me too. If I provide some of the roses, could I please not wear corset?? I'm having trouble breathing around anything ODB-related as it is.

Regarding the tea party, I only hope you'll have Lane get cucumber for sandwiches, I do so love cucumber sandwiches! (If there's a problem with the ready money, perhaps we can help!)

Thank you Maria for the very interesting information. I will be signing on for the hands on lectures. A tea party and cucumber sandwiches are indeed most welcome and will be happily attended.

Welcome to the Victorian Tea Party and Fashion Show in honor of Dorine's birthday, postponed due to technical difficulties. The tea and goodies are supplied by Dorine's fellow Latte Divas (we're branching out from coffee), and the fashions and models are provided courtesy of the "Summer Fashions for the Wealthy Victorian Gentleman" catalog. In fact, our first model has just arrived. Here we see a traveling costume for the Victorian Man About Town - a light wool overcoat, with a smart hat and scarf. We'll give the gentleman a chance to get settled and changed into the next ensemble, and then the fashion show will continue. In the meantime, grab a hot cuppa...... .....and get something to eat - how about some cake? .....or help yourself to some bread and butter, or a muffin. There might even be some cucumber sandwiches available, if they haven't all been eaten already.

Here we go! A nice relaxing tea party where all the models can be seen by everyone. :) Annette, I see your flower shop got a new delivery man. ;-)

Thanks for the invitation to your party. A piece of cake would be most welcome, even if it not fashionable anymore in the best houses:-).

Rika.... Thanks for reposting this, I am anxiously awaiting the next bits... Even though seen it before, it is just too good.

Dorine's birthday tea party and fashion show continue now, as our next model (you'll notice all our models look alike) shows us some country fashions: Here's a lovely brown tweed suit, so appropriate for a pleasant day in the country. It's cut to show off the model's broad shoulders tapering to narrow hips. Also note the wire-rim spectacles. Every element of this ensemble says, "I'm a wealthy, responsible man of property, but I could be tempted to be naughty by the right offer......" Here's another brown tweed suit - without the jacket, to give our model a casual look. We need to talk to him, though, about the contents of his pockets - the drape of the trousers is being disturbed by his decidedly non-Victorian cell phone. Here's a white linen suit designed to keep a gentleman cool, calm, and collected, even when fighting to win back the woman of his dreams. The cream vest and white shirt continue the "cool heads will prevail" motif, while the plaid tie contributes a devil-may-care splash of color. (Hey, Annette, is this the right one?) Next we have another tweed suit, in a lighter brown this time, with a dark tan vest, white shirt, and a jaunty polka-dotted tie. And a divine little mischievous smile....Let's take another look (or two or ten) at this outfit. We're going to take a short break now. Enjoy a tea cake, socialize with the other guests, and the fashion show will continue soon.

Rika, as I sit here with my cucumber sandwich and tea, all I can say is thank you....brilliantly hosted fashion show (special thanks for the pic with the glasses...I love a man in spectacles)! And Annette, if it isn't the right one, it should be! Wow! That suit and those dimples! Many thanks to the model for taking the time to show us these exceptional suits!

(Tress) Many thanks to the model for taking the time to show us these exceptional suits! Three cheers for our model. He's over with me changing for his next set, so will be somewhat delayed. I told him to try not to outshine the clothes so much as we are trying to make sales here, but it can't be helped when the model is far more handsome than the clothes. Put those dimples away, I'm trying to work here. Being his assistant is such a chore. Must go he's asking for something to eat. He is so demanding ;) Great fun Rika. Thank you.

(Tress)And Annette, if it isn't the right one, it should be! Wow! That suit and those dimples! Oh yes, I decided right away, that it most certainly is the right one. He will be my pick for a date at the post-fashionshowparty. (That is, if he is ever going to return from his little rendezvous with FanPam). Thank you so much Rika, for bringing him. Please do whatever necessarry to bring him back to the fashion show ASAP. And - you might wanna inform him, that is is costume to "mingle" with the guests!

(Pam)I told him to try not to outshine the clothes so much Easier said than done. Glad that all of you are enjoying the model, eh, party. Pam, please don't tire him out...he has lots more work to do;-) Eat up, eat up, several courses to go.

(Pam) Being his assistant is such a chore. Wow, how did you get THAT job, Pam! And I'm stuck out here serving tea.

Very nice party....again. Nice decorative accents! ;-)

(Rika's Fashion Show) Here's a white linen suit designed to keep a gentleman cool, calm, and collected Whut the? LOL.. well, there's a suit that will be on the clearance rack sooner than one can say "geez louise on tuesday". How about a thermal goosedown body suit, instead, oh madam of "Colin Collectibles"? Yes, I've been gone for far too long (laughing). I've missed everyone dreadfully, but I'm attempting to spend as much free time with my daughter before she disappears into the wilds of Missouri and boot camp in a couple of weeks as possible. (sigh) Happy belated birthday, gnome of the potted ficus! (mucho huggos) My daughter has also been making me slave away making sims for her "Anita Blake:Vampire Hunter" series universe. Have any of you read those silly books?

Hello? Dorine? It's Matthew Field. I've changed my mind, and decided to come and model after all. I'm on vacation at Villa Eden, and you know how much I hate going on location. But, for your birthday celebration, I've decided to rise above it. I'll do anything for your tea party, Dorine. Can find a quite spot afterward so you can Say My Name? See you soon.

Sorry, Dorine. I'm so excited about attending that I've forgotten how to spell. That should be...Can we find a quiet spot.

Matthew! Thank you so much for popping up like this. I'll say *anything* you want! ;-)

Yummy photos, ladies! So...not that I'd go out and buy it (ahem)...but does anyone happen to know what pattern of china was used for TIOBE? Rika got such a nice shot of that cup. I had looked in various shops but nothing comes close.

(Jeanie) Yes, I've been gone for far too long Yes, you have, and we've missed you terribly!!! I understand there's more to life than making clever comments on Drool, but please try to toss us a crumb of your wit and wisdom from time to time, or we might suffer from withdrawal!

Welcome back, Jeanie. Glad you popped by, and in time for the tea party/fashion show. Missed you.

Knock-knock, Ahem - is this the place they host a fashionshow? I was told to deliver some roses for the occassion and I am very determined to get the order right (they fired the last delivery-boy for not being able to "get the job done"). I was told to ask for Dorine? Well - here they are (hopefully):

Great pics ladies and what lovely roses Annette. Welcome back Jeanie.

Welcome back, Jeanie! The place just hasn't been the same without you. We move on to formal and special-occasion wear for the Man of Property. Just because you're charged with responsibility for your dead (and fictional) brother's ashes is no reason not to score points on the fashion scale. This mourning ensemble, complete with elegant black gloves, is dramatic, yet tasteful. Attempting to impress your future in-laws is a daunting prospect, but our model looks like every mother-in-law's dream in this exquisite morning suit. A navy coat and trousers coordinate beautifully with a dove gray vest and a blue-gray tie. A lily of the valley completes this stunning ensemble. The mother-in-law may decide she wants this tasty treat for herself! You can't go wrong with the classic tuxedo, and you also can't go wrong putting this particular model in formal wear. Mmmmmmmmm. If only he'd show us some dimples......  Did you say you wanted dimples? Our model is looking irresistable in this night-on-the-town ensemble.A black tail coat, a white tuxedo shirt, and a cream satin vest and tie make an elegant fashion statement. Absolutely freakin' gorgeous..... oh, and the clothes aren't bad either. I hope you don't mind - I'm not quite ready to move on yet. Some more views of this ensemble.... and the dimples.... Lucky Dorine - as the birthday girl, she gets to personally inspect the model.... I mean, the outfits.I don't know about you, but I need to take a break and get something cool to drink.... perhaps some refreshing lemonade. But stick around - there will be more fashions and models to drool over coming up soon.

Rika, my DH was just looking over my shoulder, other than laughing at all of us, he does want to compliment you on one of the last dimple pics...he especially admires the little dish practically spilling out over ODB's shoulder. (He actually likes to watch TIOBE with me, now I think I understand!)

Rika, once again wonderful captures. About the Hello Magazine vote for most wonderful(?) man/actor of the year. Has anyone heard the result? I can't seem to find it on their website. (You should think, that counting the number of times, I votet, I should be able to remember the catagorie, but sorry, I do not).

(Barb S)...he especially admires the little dish practically spilling out over ODB's shoulder. Yeah, I thought about trying to digitally eliminate her - or at least cover her up - but I'm glad he enjoyed it!

(Barb) Rika, my DH was just looking over my shoulder, ......laughing at all of us LOL, he's just jealous he doesn't have someone to post captures for him of some little dish of his own. ;-) The last series of models can't be repeated too many times. Thanks so much! ;-D

Love the fashion show. Do you think that somewhere in his past, someone said to him that he looks good in a black shirt? Well he does!, but don't you think it's time that he's told that he looks good in other colour shirts as well.

(Leah), but don't you think it's time that he's told that he looks good in other colour shirts as well. That blue shirt in WAGW suits him better than the black one. Of course, black is the cool colour to wear. ;-)

Rika, With your latest batch of captures, you have surpassed all that has gone before. Simply wonderful!!

What a marvelous success!!! Now I'm making sure our model is resting comfortably. The massage I'm giving him is working wonders. He has so much energy and after such a long day!! Sorry must run, "You want to wot..."-;) Such fun Rika. Sorry its over. Best pics of the group. I think he noticed the dish behind him, too. Hence that satisfying grin.

Ladies, the following site was so much fun (at least for me ;)). May be you have seen it: http://www.afirthionado.com/private/dejavu/dejavu.html

We thought it might be interesting to take a behind-the-scenes peek at the models' dressing rooms and see what's going on.  Oops. Looks like we arrived at an inconvenient time. Let's check the other dressing rooms. Looks like our country-attire model is all tuckered out and is having a quick lie-down. Tragically, he's chosen to nap fully clothed (except those adorable bare feet peeking out). Love the dressing gown, though. The book title? "Tongues Ahoy: A Guide to More Passionate Screen Kissing and the Avoidance of Chicken-Pecking."Next door, our formal-wear model is practicing some poses for use later on. Someone should tell him that smoking is bad for you. And down the hall we find.... oh, my...... it's not every day one sees a proper Victorian gentleman in a black sleeveless tee and BLP*. He must moonlight as a rock guitar god.... Let's pause and enjoy this image, shall we? A pity that the photo is somewhat Blurry....* - Black Leather Pants, of course!  But now it's back to the fashion show. This black velvet jacket over a brown vest, white striped shirt, and red silk tie is the perfect choice for proposing to your beloved - or for snarfing down cucumber sandwiches, unless there are no cucumbers to be had, in which case I recommend muffins. The white carnation, the stray curl on the forehead, and that gleam in the model's eye are the sort of extra touches that just about guarantee a "yes."  Sober gray pinstripes - an inspired choice for a quick trip to the library to do some research. The stray curls are beginning to run amok. But wait - who is this new arrival? He doesn't seem to be dressed in Victorian garb, but he has certain..... charms all the same. Stay tuned for further developments!

Ah, man.. .charms, schmarms... look at the hair, Rika, the HAIR!!!! (laughing) It's pure perfection, but I've already given my 10 cents worth here regarding Matthew's hair. (sigh.. pitter-pat, pitter-pat) Hey, this IS the place where I can give my 10 cents worth of opinion & preference without getting slapped around (more like K.O.ed) by tempermental artist types who feel they've been slighted by my words even though my words weren't in any way addressed to them, right? (scratching head in amused bemusement) LOL! You know, as difficult as I've been here at times with our poor beleaguered fearless leader, especially when she was writing GSD & I was belittling "bayou barbie" at every opportunity, her response to my tasteless barbs were nothing compared to what I experienced a few days ago while wandering about the various fanfiction sites, and I was trying to be tactful, too!!!! (laughing) Perhaps I should work on my tact... (considering).. nah.. LOL! I'll just be sure not to row by boat down the river st x again without wearing a flameproof sailor suit. (grinning) Now, does anyone know where I can purchase such a wardrobe??? ;)

Hmmm.. for some reason my post above rejected the word "Styx", oh well.. I can't say I blame it. =P

(Jeanie) Perhaps I should work on my tact... (considering).. nah.. Oh, please don't!!! I like your tact just as it is!

He doesn't seem to be dressed in Victorian garb, but he has certain..... charms all the same. Stay tuned for further developments! Please, develop away!

(Rika)The stray curls are beginning to run amok. Please, run amok all you like. Again - wonderful show, Rika. But this terribly se.., sorry good-looking model is making me quite week at my knees, so I might just have to go and have a lie-down. Perhaps the model with the instruction-book could move over a wee bit? Then he would also have practicing-material nearby. He wouldn't even have to pay anything - I'd pay extra to "service" him. btw - I think I just found an explanation as to why I have taken up such an interest in "the Gunners" (at the moment no. 1 in the league!!).

Rika, Are you hinting at a Fashion Show modelled by a certain writer living abroad? I do hope so!

Jack and Matthew...what a combination. Then of course Lord Dashwood and his BLP. *SIGH* Thank you Rika. Dorine, I'm sticking with you at all times while this modeling stuff is going on.;-)

Karen, Loved latest pics posted at the Bucket. Especially the one cropped from the HS pic with MD. I notice he has a bit of a 'wattle' at his throat, (I think that what Fish called it in Ally McBeal) - I could never understand his character's fascination with Dyan Cannon's before, but I can now! He just gets better as he matures!

(FanPam) The massage I'm giving him is working wonders. He has so much energy and after such a long day!! Dear Madam: Am interested in an assistant position at your company. Please contact me at your earliest convenience. Have excellent references (okay, some of them are a bit dicey, but you gotta cut a girl a break!) ;-D Rika.....I cannot ever thank you enough! I do want to say that I think our model should consider putting that book ("Tongues Ahoy: A Guide to More Passionate Screen Kissing and the Avoidance of Chicken-Pecking") down and using a live model for his lessons. I will volunteer if no one else is up to it! ;-)

(Rika) He doesn't seem to be dressed in Victorian garb, but he has certain..... charms all the same. Stay tuned for further developments! And does he intend to develop in every direction? *snicker*

Ohhh, I just had a lovely surprise. For anyone who might have a Netflix membership, AZ is now in their catalog. They might have only one copy, though, and if so, it's on its way to ME! So, you'll just have to wait til I'm done with it, LOL! (BTW, for those of you who live in the boonies like me and the local video rental place doesn't have a very good selection, Netflix is great)

(Janet) Are you hinting at a Fashion Show modelled by a certain writer living abroad? The gentleman in question doesn't think he has sufficient outfits to rival Jack Worthing in a fashion show, but he has confided to me that he believes he could offer a different sort of demonstration. This is going to take a couple of days of preparation between us, but watch this space for a special presentation by Matthew Field..... (moonstar) And does he intend to develop in every direction? *snicker* Some might argue that he's pretty well-developed already. :-0

(Rika). This is going to take a couple of days of preparation between us, but watch this space for a special presentation by Matthew Field..... Excuse me?? I thought I was the wardrobe mistress. Sheesh! (Rika)Some might argue that he's pretty well-developed already. :-0 I'll just be they do. **sigh**

I've just received a email stating that FF is being released on DVD and Video. It was referring, or course, to the Brian de Palma film of the same name. Buyers beware!

(Linda) Excuse me?? I thought I was the wardrobe mistress. Sheesh! Noooo.. you're the googie goddess.. would you PLEASE stop trying to be everything to our precious? (laughing) You have to leave some jobs to others, you know? You must share!

I was just over at Amazon, and TIOBE is the featured DVD of the day! Doesn't even mention RE in the short blurb; it's all about CF (huge smile) Has anyone seen the DVD version of AZ yet? I remember when Valmont was released to DVD, it was reported here that there was a scene missing. I'm renting AZ soon, and was wondering if it's intact. I've never seen it, so I won't know if they left anything out.

(moonstar) Has anyone seen the DVD version of AZ yet? I remember when Valmont was released to DVD, it was reported here that there was a scene missing. I'm renting AZ soon, and was wondering if it's intact. ODB appears to be 'intact'....you have a treat ahead of you moonstar! All that angst! It's a lovely thing to witness. ;-) I did laugh at the cat scene....you'll have to let us know what you think!

(Tress)All that angst! It's a lovely thing to witness My AZ DVD just arrived today...I watched this only once before...OH yes there is angst, even more that some of our fan fic.

I received my R2 DVD of AC, ordered on Sunday from a Spanish site(www.dvdgo.com, with English text option), at a very reasonable price of 26 euros, including postage. Only drawback is case and inner sleeve printed in Spanish, but small price to pay, IMO.

So, I saw the AZ dvd at Best Buy months ago on sale for $7 and didn't get it.. how stupid is that? LOL! Needless to say, it's not there anymore. It's snowing again. It's not supposed to snow here.. (bouncing off the walls)

(Jeanie) So, I saw the AZ dvd at Best Buy months ago on sale for $7 and didn't get it.. LOL! What were ya thinkin'? I just paid $9 for The Secret Garden (I have no children) for a minute of ODB...you could have gotten nearly 2 hours of pent up rage for $7! What a deal! ;-) I'll trade you...snow for wet, damp, foggy cr*p....

(Jeanie) So, I saw the AZ dvd at Best Buy months ago on sale for $7 and didn't get it.. Ugh! Why can't I have a Best Buy that actually carries AZ or any other CF movie for that matter...all I get around here is Bow Hunting for Beginners and Speed 2! ;-)

Ordered the AZ DVD from Barnes & Noble.com 2-4 weeks ago when it said 1-2 weeks for delivery. Price was $10.99 and no shipping since I ordered one other item at the same time. Next thing I knew, one item had shipped (NOT AZ of course) and AZ was "temporarily unavailable". Well, it finally arrived today. Absolutely no extras of course and the quality not as crisp as films made for DVD rather than transferred to that format. Now, to watch it through and find the film discussion here on it to compare my reactions to others here.

Is the sound a little weak on your DVDs. I have to turn my TV's volume up louder for this one.

(Karen) Is the sound a little weak on your DVDs. I have to turn my TV's volume up louder for this one. Mine sounds fine...but I have my DVD player routed through a stereo (most of the sound comes through 'other' speakers). I didn't have to turn up the volume though.

(Jeanie) So, I saw the AZ dvd at Best Buy months ago on sale for $7 and didn't get it Were you feeling okay at the time? Or was the dh with you (oh, no, not HIM again!)? LOL! (AdaVW) Ugh! Why can't I have a Best Buy that actually carries AZ or any other CF movie for that matter...all I get around here is Bow Hunting for Beginners and Speed 2! ;-) LOL! I have a BB that's relatively near me (40 miles away) and it's one of the smaller ones. I think they only carry BJD & TIOBE, but it was the Christmas shopping season. The internet is a wonderful thing... (Tress) I'll trade you...snow for wet, damp, foggy cr*p.... I'm very tempted to take you up on that trade, if you'll extend it to Kentucky. It was 7 degrees here when I got up this morning, windchill 15 below, 2 inches of snow on the ground. But, Adrian LeDuc is awaiting me when I get home (yay!). AZ on the DVD player tonight...

(Moonstar)Were you feeling okay at the time? Or was the dh with you (oh, no, not HIM again!)? LOL! LOL.. well, my once sensible dh has completely gone on shutdown mode concerning Our Precious, so now, here at home, we refer to CF as "He Who Must Not Be Named"... LOL!

(Jeanie)LOL.. well, my once sensible dh has completely gone on shutdown mode concerning Our Precious, so now, here at home, we refer to CF as "He Who Must Not Be Named"... LOL! Your comment brought to mind how my DH refers to ODB. I don't know if I could print it here! He is only joking, though, and is very good at printing off photos, showing me how to do downloads, etc. Does any other DH's have unusual ways of referring to him, I wonder?

Janet... Have discovered that my DH is genius. Got new computer of my own that sits next to his on same desk. Installed YUMMY photo of CF looking lovingly at Lizzie playing piano at Rosings as wallpaper. Also installed collection of 30 photos of same delightful man as screen saver, and sat back waiting for the roar..... for three days not a word. Finally I broke down and asked DH if he minded. He just laughed and said it was my computer and my photos, and since we have been married for twenty three years and he intended to stay that way for twenty three more, I could put anything there I liked. Also asked me to never again ask him if an outfit makes me look fat. Do you think that an honest answer might be in the affirmative??????

(Janet) Does any other DH's have unusual ways of referring to him, I wonder? In my house he is "that Colin guy" or "your boyfriend" (as in "your boyfriend's in that movie"). I always correct him and tell the DH he is not "my boyfriend" as I have to share him with numerous others (including LD)....the DH is fascinated by this....a bunch of women all drooling over one man (a bit jealous, I think). He is very helpful though...with the downloads and the printing and other ODB projects. He just doesn't understand it completely (and am hoping he never realizes just what the fanfic is really all about.....) ;-)

Hello, Marilyn! (Janet), Does any other DH's have unusual ways of referring to him, I wonder? My Italian DH call him "il cornuto". But I know that CF is "He Who Must Not Be Named" in my house. ;-)

(Janet) Does any other DH's have unusual ways of referring to him, I wonder? (Moon Dreams) My Italian DH call him "il cornuto". But I know that CF is "He Who Must Not Be Named" in my house. ;-) Help!! Does this mean "little horn"? LOL... (MarilynF) and since we have been married for twenty three years and he intended to stay that way for twenty three more, I could put anything there I liked. Also asked me to never again ask him if an outfit makes me look fat. Do you think that an honest answer might be in the affirmative?????? He sounds like a good egg with a good sense of humor to me Marilyn!! And the trade he asks for is not too much to ask!! My DH keeps changing in this regard. Initially I think he was very wounded, after that, he became certain I had really gone off the deep end, and now, sometimes I think he has rounded the corner into acceptance. Not to say he still won't make fun of him but there is no one name he uses and (Huge victory for me!) I was able to get him to watch DQ by extolling it's social views and he enjoyed it! (But I did'nt hear it from him!)

(Janet)Does any other DH's have unusual ways of referring to him, I wonder? My DH used to refer to him as "that Colin guy", or, "there is your boyfriend, again". Like Maria's DH, he has fallen into the acceptance category. He has watched several of Colin's films with me, and I've gotten used to the "Oh no, not him, again" Or "how many films did this guy make"? Little does he know...since there are a few he'll never see. (Tress)He just doesn't understand it completely (and am hoping he never realizes just what the fanfic is really all about.....) ;-) LOL, the fan fic would be the undoing;-)

Sorry for the double post, but I missed this...priceless! (Maria)Help!! Does this mean "little horn"? LOL... LOL, not quite. My sides are splitting.

(lindak) LOL, the fan fic would be the undoing;-) I now look upon fanfic as "Inspirational Reading"...the DH should be grateful (still, I don't think I'll enlighten him any time soon)! ;-) (Maria) Help!! Does this mean "little horn"? LOL... It's okay, Maria, I don't know what it means either (and Linda didn't help!! ;-D ). I have asked an Italian speaking co-worker. We'll see what his reaction is!

(Maria)Help!! Does this mean "little horn"? LOL... (linda), LOL, not quite. My sides are splitting. The cuckold. ;-)

(Moon Dreams) The cuckold Main Entry: cuck�old Pronunciation: 'k&-k&ld, -(")kOld Function: noun Etymology: Middle English cokewold Date: 13th century : a man whose wife is unfaithful - cuckold transitive verb OUCH!!

(Marilyn) He just laughed and said it was my computer and my photos, and since we have been married for twenty three years and he intended to stay that way for twenty three more, I could put anything there I liked. What a great guy you have there. Seems like a keeper to me. (Maria) Help!! Does this mean "little horn"? LOL... How funny. LOL. But if all reports are indeed true, fortunately NO My kids refer to him as my "boyfriend". Daughter saw WAGW trailer the other day and came a running to tell me "Your boyfriend's coming out with a new movie" laughing at the leather and MJ bits. Was impressed when I knew all about it and just shook head when I pulled trailer up for her to view.

(Moon Dreams) The cuckold (Maria) OUCH Think back to his movies, TEP, SIL & BJD. My DH saw those movies with me, it came natural to him to call him that. ;-)

(Moon) Think back to his movies, TEP, SIL & BJD. My DH saw those movies with me, it came natural to him to call him that. ;-) Your DH is very funny! I was thinking more in line with Maria...thought it might be a bit naughty ('little horn' is hilarious BTW!)

This is all too funny! Because my husband was working in Korea when I first discovered P&P2, it was my boys who were wise to me watching Mr. Darcy over and over. Now, they try to make mention of CF and tease me a little in front of my DH but I still have the upper hand to some degree. I keep my DVD's and videos in a cabinet in the bedroom, mostly because everything gets shuffled around so much at our house, I know one of my films will get taped over if I don't keep them under lock and key!, so tons of CF movies lying around aren't any kind of hint. I have my photo collection buried in a couple of documents in my Working Chapters folder for UMS, so I keep my bases covered. ;) As far as FF goes, my husband has a slanted view of it all. He sees me spending too much time at the computer, from his way of thinking, and I believe he is a little jealous! He has never read anything I have written, although he did try to get through a couple of chapters of ALRTH ages ago. *snort* However, based on what little he has seen in comments in emails passed back and forth, he is sure I am a smut writer. ;) There is nothing I can do to change his mind. Actually, I don't think he'd really care if I were a smut writer, as long as I was a successful one! But, he sees the whole thing as entirely out of character for me and thinks I may have gone 'round the twist! :)

(Moon) My Italian DH call him "il cornuto" (MariaT) Help!! Does this mean "little horn"? LOL... Okay, the Italian speaking co-worker just got back to his desk, and when he read my e-mail, he translated (a bit more 'loosely'..LOL..) and when he did, he made a hand gesture that looked like horns! According to him, it is a v. bad insult...especially when accompanied by the little hand thing! (Lisa) ...he is sure I am a smut writer. ;) LOL....one woman's smut is another's "inspiration"! ;-D BTW, did you explain to the DH that the happiness of countless women depend upon your next chapters of UMS and ALRTH??

(Lisa)He has never read anything I have written, although he did try to get through a couple of chapters of ALRTH ages ago. Why not a few chapters of UMS?;-) (Tress)BTW, did you explain to the DH that the happiness of countless women depend upon your next chapters of UMS and ALRTH?? Good Point!

My DH also falls into the "good-natured acceptance" category, often refers to him as my "boyfriend." I don't typically impose CF movies on him, though - he's seen most of P&P, most of BJD, and that's about it. We're thinking about a trip to England this summer, and he already knows he'll have to go along on the "Jane Austen tour." What he DOESN'T know is that we'll also be visiting Islington and (if the time is right) trying to find location shoots of TEoR.

(Janet) Does any other DH's have unusual ways of referring to him, I wonder. We talk about him like we know him (AS IF). Colin should have wrapped it up in Luxembourg by now. He talked Renee into the BJD sequel.(ME) I thought Renee looked great in Bridget. She looked a little thin in Chicago. (DH) When I had DQ on recently. Is this one of Colin's movie's? (DH) Of course, I have to listen to his tidbits about his stuff too. (Tress) I'm hoping he never realizes just what the fanfic is really all about. DH has also read Fanfic and thinks it is very creative. Impressed that people can think of so many variations on a theme. Knows it can be smuttish. He likes to read all kinds of books though. Maybe one day his head will explode from CF talk. Right now, I am more concerned about me than he is.

My hubby of almost 43 years calls him the "Forgotten Man." I.E. Hardly ever mentioned in the ads etc for his big films, like SIL and TEP. For your enjoyment, The February Calendar:

The picture in the calendar is one from the Daily Telegraph a few years ago. The larger size shows the cut on his nose, received when an audio sysem he was putting up apparently fell and bumped the beautiful nose.

My son, who for some reason was quite slow to catch on, now refers to him as "That Darcy Dude" (although I'm pretty sure he's caught me watching FP, BJD and MLSF at least as often as P&P). He has also grasped that fanfic revolves around Darcy, although thus far I don't believe he knows exactly why Mom likes the fanfic so much ;-), thank heavens!

Hi everyone, I haven't had a chance to visit the board in a while but I hope you are all doing well and surviving the 'colin news' drought....at least it feels that way. I've been catching up on the all the posts and just couldn't stop laughing when I read about how ODB is being referred to by your DHs! Since I am single, I've gone all out in my obsession for "The Darcy Dude" but the unlucky guy I may one day snag will have to understand, infact that's crucial. ....there fore I will be a spinster and will be found eaten by Alsatians (spell?) or turn up like Glenn Close in Fatal attraction. Ok I'm watching too much BJD. Rika, I'm so jealous that you may be going to England on a holiday...do you think you can fit me in in your luggage? I won't take up too much space and I swear, I'll be quiet as a mouse... : )

My DH and I are off tomorrow to the Frankfurt/Heidelberg area for the weekend to celebrate his birthday. I've just checked the map, and found that Luxembourg is fairly close by. (OK, about an hour away). Very tempting to visit instead that very picturesque principality. But I truly think my DH would freak if I suggested it, don't you?

(Yura) Since I am single, I've gone all out in my obsession for "The Darcy Dude" but the unlucky guy I may one day snag will have to understand, infact that's crucial. This goes without saying. (Janet) My DH and I are off tomorrow to the Frankfurt/Heidelberg area for the weekend to celebrate his birthday. Have a wonderful time and weather permitting wouldn't a lovely long drive through the beautiful countryside be appropriate? How could DH protest such a serene activity.

But I truly think my DH would freak if I suggested it, don't you?

Okaaayyy..let me try that again...:-P But I truly think my DH would freak if I suggested it, don't you? Janet, you could always try to bribe your DH with something sweet. Isn't Luxembourg famous for their chocolates? You could say, Oh, honey, let's buy some chocolate covered truffles to remind us of our trip.....and oh, by the way, there's this movie being filmed over here, do let's stop and check it out!

(AdaVW) You could say, Oh, honey, let's buy some chocolate covered truffles to remind us of our trip.....and oh, by the way, there's this movie being filmed over here, do let's stop and check it out! That's my plan if DH and I got to England this summer - the "Oh, by the way, there's this movie....." approach. It's a variant on the "Wow, what an amazing coincidence!" approach I used when, after nagging DH until he agreed to go see HP the weekend it opened, there just happened to be a trailer playing for a CF movie. But isn't GWAPE finished filming by now?

It's okay Rika, you can say 'Oh by the way there's this little movie called EOR filming here right now..' this summer when in London (fingers crossed!!). Believe me, I am planning on spending most of the summer staking out the city, I'll let you know if I have any luck finding the set (and am assuming that some will be the same like Bridget's apartment).

Rika, you might keep an eye on this website...or email them This is a v. resourceful group. I have not doubt you'll make it. But let's plan how to inveigle DH to go there....failing is not an option here;-)) http://www.london-film.co.uk/

Rika: Check your hotmail now if you're on

Mighty quiet in here...hmmmm... (checking under the sofa).

(Jeanie) Mighty quiet in here...hmmmm... (checking under the sofa). I was thinking the same thing...everyone was on fire yesterday with the planned heist of the P&P clothes, but I think our time has run out on Darcy Drool...I keep checking over here to get my fix...I will be leaving for a few days and will be ODB Free. This may not be a good thing. He's like my coffee. Gotta have a 'shot' or I'm just not right. Think many may be watching the telly right now...:-( Sad news...

I slept late today and had no idea what you were talking about, Tress.. oh, how tragic.. Of course, I guess almost all of us had the same response that I did. ."Dear God, not again!" (sad sigh) I'll send you something to cheer you up and take care of your Darcy Drool fix, how's that? (smiling) It's rather risque, so if you want me to send it to you either email me, or leave me a message at Darcy Drool.

(Jeanie) I'll send you something to cheer you up and take care of your Darcy Drool fix, how's that? (smiling) It's rather risque... Oh, now...I don't think I like risque. Goes against my very nature. ;-) *clearing throat* I, uh, sent you an e-mail....

(Tress)Oh, now...I don't think I like risque. Goes against my very nature. ;-) Uhm, maybe we are a few others, who also need cheering up. The evenings are mighty cold.......

Ok, I originally attempted to post this to "Darcy Drool" but it wouldn't let me. "I am truly honoured by all the attention you fine ladies give me, but would you please consider returning my clothing? Pemberley is drafty this time of year, and I'm sure to die of a consumption unless I find warmth!"

(laughing) Please, Linda, Dorine, Rika, or Terry please forward to Annette "the package".. (dying of laughter) I deleted mine because of prying eyes..

(laughing to)Jeanie, you are the best!! I was just on my way to bed (it is almost midnight), so "the package" arrived just in time. Good Night everyone, and sweet dreams!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Jeanie....oops...I mean Mr. Darcy) " ...Pemberley is drafty this time of year, and I'm sure to die of a consumption unless I find warmth!" I'll give ya something to keep ya warm! (Jeanie) (dying of laughter) I deleted mine because of prying eyes.. ROTFL.....the DH was just asking what I was looking at....I was shutting things down left and right...."huh? what do you mean? I wasn't looking at anything!" I didn't delete though! Funny I can read fanfic all night w/o a word, but once I get visuals.....it's all over. LOL...Annette! I hope thoughts of "the package" don't keep you up!

All right now, if you're going to talk about it, you're going to have to share! pretty please?

Me too please! With a cherry on top

Perhaps it would've been better if you all would have emailed each other, rather than leave messages here.

sorry, that was MY fault, boss.. won't happen again, or, at least, I'll attempt to make sure it doesn't happen again.. =(

responding to some of the Conspiracytalk from Ods and ends: I think Karen is right about his approach to the "problem with the jews". One thing, I took notice of, was the way he tried to differ between species and race. In my ears, that places him right in the middle of them all. He too wantet to get rid of the jews. He said to acknowledge them as part of our species but prevent them from being part of our race (quote). He wantet it done with this in mind, and BY THE LAW. I will say, that I think the movie is scaring, but very well actet. I also noticed, that when CF was acting furious, he had a vein beating very clearly in his forehead. How can anyone control their face like that? Amazing!

Wow, I missed a lot while I was gone this weekend! Thanks for the encouragement on my possible London trip and TEOR stake-out. I've bookmarked the site Evelyn told me about - thanks!!!!

This is the babbling-topic, right? I have noticed, that ODB sings in many of his movies. Here are the ones, I know of: Tumbledown (army-like: have you heard, what I've been told, or something like that) Hostages (Jinglebells) SIL (some odd morning-like song, sunday morning) Donovan Quick (We shall not, we shall not be moved) TIOBE (Lady come down) WAGW (Staying alive, perhaps - surely looks like something like that;-)) Have I forgotten any? How would you rank them?

Rika, if you are still here - please check out the news on the release of The Advocate on dvd. I see so many possibilities for the DVDiva (and those of us fortunate to see how you work wonders).

(Annette)I also noticed, that when CF was acting furious, he had a vein beating very clearly in his forehead. I've noticed it in the last scene of WOF as well.

Sometimes I really HATE technology--- I got AZ from Netflix, was *really* psyched about (finally!) getting to watch it, put it in the DVD player last night, and after about 30 seconds of thinking, the player spits it back out with a "disc error" message!!!! I tried two more times, and IT WOULDN'T PLAY!!! It also didn't like RV (rental), and while it used to play FP (own it), it won't anymore! GRRRRRRRRRR!!!! I would say that the dh has hexed the DVD player to not play CF's films, but P&P, BJD, Conspiracy and TIOBE all work just fine. I have a couple of other DVD's it won't play as well. Anyone know what gives???

I got the AZ DVD from Barnes & Noble last week. I've played it through several times and it works fine.

On DVD's: I assume you've cleaned it. Whenever I've had problems like this it's because the disk has something on it (like a big ol' thumbprint). AZ on DVD..... yes, most interesting possibilities. Though I think they'd be of the variety that would have to be distributed via e-mail..... Speaking of which, I've owed everybody a Matthew Field montage for a while now. Sorry - real life has been interfering with the important stuff, and in addition there have been technical problems with my web space and I've been waiting for resolution. But I assure you that I have an AFG collection of captures from SLOW.... and one of these days I'll get some of 'em up on display.

(Rika) I assume you've cleaned it. Whenever I've had problems like this it's because the disk has something on it Yeah, it's clean; I put the cleaning disk in the DVD & cleaned the laser too, all to no avail. **Sigh** It's a fairly early model player, and we've been having more and more trouble with it the older it gets. Hubby's pushing for an X-Box... (Rika) Though I think they'd be of the variety that would have to be distributed via e-mail..... How *intriguing* :) put me on your distribution list, if you decide to do it that way...

(Rika) Though I think they'd be of the variety that would have to be distributed via e-mail..... (moonstar)How *intriguing* :) put me on your distribution list, if you decide to do it that way.. Me too!!!!!!!!!!! (and remember SIL?)

There's a new Darcy Drool topic (173) set up, since 112 is all filled up.

Not long ago we were talking about how our DH's talked about CF. Well, I just got a phone call from DH that I simply had to share. He's on a business trip, and just called to let me know it had been cut short and he was on his way home. I need to explain that I teach on Wednesday nights so I get home pretty late. Anyway, he said, "Just wanted to let you know that when you get home tonight there may be a man in your bed, and unfortunately it won't be Colin Firth." Thank goodness he has a good sense of humor about it! I'm still laughing.....

LOL Rika, congratulations, he sounds wonderful! (so much for keeping ODB a secret!)

Anyway, he said, "Just wanted to let you know that when you get home tonight there may be a man in your bed, and unfortunately it won't be Colin Firth." Too funny, Rika.YDH has good sense of humor; keep him. I hope someday he'll get to meet Colin. There are great stories of the men(DH, boyfriends, fiancees,partners) who accompanied their gals to 3 DOR , hung around the Donmar lobby.Some of the remarks to Colin were priceless.

(Rika) Anyway, he said, "Just wanted to let you know that when you get home tonight there may be a man in your bed, and unfortunately it won't be Colin Firth." LOL! Oh, Rika, that's just too funny. How on earth did you respond to *that*?! (Evelyn) Some of the remarks to Colin were priceless Are there any you could repeat? Am v. curious :)

LOL, Rika! You have him well trained. ;-)

(Evelyn) Some of the remarks to Colin were priceless I remember some reference to this way way back and would Love to hear them again too...hint hint.

Really,they don't translate too well in print. Also, some were told in private and I don't feel comfortable putting them on a public board. Perhaps you can find some of them in the Donmar reports.

What a great husband you have Rika. He seems to be very understanding. Which leads me to believe he might have someone he particularly likes. Do you know who she is?

(moonstar)How on earth did you respond to *that*?! I was so shocked I just laughed and turned about 15 shades of red (which he couldn't see since we were on the phone). (Evelyn) I hope someday he'll get to meet Colin. One thing at a time - first I would like to meet him! But, yeah, I can actually imagine DH going with me on a trip like that. As to his own "interests", he's got a bit of a thing for Catherine Zeta-Jones (we haven't been to "Chicago" yet, but the first time we have a weekend night free, I'll have no trouble getting him to see it). But he's not collecting her movies and discussing her online (at least, not as far as I know ;-).

Rika, your DH sounds like a honey, you'll have to tell him we were all drooling over him...if of course you want him to know he was a topic of conversation. (Rika) he's got a bit of a thing for Catherine Zeta-Jones Don't they all? Mine just learned he has a thing for Brit-whatever-ny Spears. If you wonder why, check her out on the last page of this week's People mag. Guess he has that in common with ODB.

"Just wanted to let you know that when you get home tonight there may be a man in your bed, and unfortunately it won't be Colin Firth." Good thing that was you and not me. I might have blurted out "unfortunately" OK just kidding. I think;-)

(Barb) Rika, your DH sounds like a honey, you'll have to tell him we were all drooling over him...if of course you want him to know he was a topic of conversation. I haven't decided yet if he'd want to know that or not. He is an incredibly tolerant fellow. But he doesn't know too much about Drool - just that I sometimes visit this place where CF fans hang out. How much do the rest of our DH's or SO's know about Drool?

Drool is top secret.

(Moon Dreams) Drool is top secret Agreed..I have to ALWAYS remember to clean out the browser and erase all history before signing out...especially when I have been Drooling whilst drinking wine(v.v often)so I don't have to wake up in a panic with a 50 pound wine head, and race to the computer at midnight to try and log in and clean it out and quickly sign off and put it away and jump on the couch and turn on tv and pretend to be only slightly awake just as DH walks in..(obviously NOT a hypothetical situation..);-)

My DH knows about Drool, but not by name. (Didn't want to open myself up to drool slobber jokes...)Just that I check out this CF place everyday. A few times. He's amazingly tolerant. Even helps me tape shows, and is willing to go to NY with me for openings etc., although that is probably just because he likes NY... He's not at all the jealous type, and I'm sure feels this is quite harmless. I do make sure to tell him that CF is only the second sexiest man I've ever seen... My eldest son (13)is not as tolerant. I keep telling him it's just a pretend boyfriend and that I'm kidding, and that Daddy has three girls that he likes, but I think with all his friend's parents being divorced, it kind of makes him uneasy. I've stopped joking about it in front of him. I think I'd rather not see CF in the company of my husband though. If I do turn to a silly puddle of blabbering mush I'd rather my DH wasn't witness. So undignified. Haven't been this silly since I was 15! So if anyone in the PA area wants company on a trip to NY to drool this spring, feel free to contact me...

(Moon Dreams)Drool is top secret. Indeed it is!!

(Maria) ...clean out the browser and erase all history before signing out....(obviously NOT a hypothetical situation..);-) LOL Maria. I am much luckier. My DH is such a Luddite, he would not begin to know how to access history. However...sigh...as disguise of every sort is his abhorrence and he caught me a few times too many clicking over to other screens as he came in, I'm outed. I guess he thinks a sneaky wife is worse than one who is in all other things (mostly) sensible and he actually finds it amusing. He's got a way with the quotes and he still says he's going to buy some boots. At Christmas he pressed for access to one of you to find out how he might find CF items....if anyone knows how to get a life-size stand-up posterboard cutout, you might email me...he's in the market!

(Meg) I think I'd rather not see CF in the company of my husband though. If I do turn to a silly puddle of blabbering mush I'd rather my DH wasn't witness. That's my fear as well. And I'd never hear the end of it. I used to do the same stuff as Maria - cleaning out history and such - but I have my own laptop now and I do almost all of my drooling from there.

(BarbS) if anyone knows how to get a life-size stand-up posterboard cutout, you might email me...he's in the market! LOL! I would think you'd know by now if anyone here knew how to procure such an item; how could anyone possibly keep such a thing a secret?! And if anyone out there is holding out, well, shame shame on you!!

Sorry to take you away from your discussion of husbands but.... One of our lurkers would like to share the wealth and has generously donated her VHS tape of Apartment Zero (NTSC) and the book "Speaking with the Angel" to any Drool Darling who would like them. One per customer. First come, first serve. email me at my "office" (nomdedrool@yahoo.com)

(Meg) Haven't been this silly since I was 15! Me too, not since the Beatles were on every inch of my bedroom walls and ceiling. Feels good doesn't it.

(Meg) Haven't been this silly since I was 15! Nor, I. I got bold and now have CF wallpaper, and I told you all about the TIOBE and BJD movie posters, that I had framed for my daughter's bithday. She loves them in her room...so do I. Of course I had a few other movie posters done as well so it didn't look too obvious;-)

(Annette ) From BJD topic, Number 9 is still my favorite. (The BJD snow kissing scene as a romantic moment in film). Okay, To get ready for Valentine's day, what are your ten favorite romantic CF moments? Is it possible to narrow it down? I could probably fill 10 spots with P&P so will use others first. Joe Prince in the frozen food section, "You have to marry me".

(Kathleen)what are your ten favorite romantic CF moments? Just off the mark, and please don't think I've totally lost it (more than always, that is), but here they are: FP, D. H. Lawrence, If he would look at me like that, he didn't have to vary the answers at all. and - The Bollock Brothers scene, being a bit - not the right mood. He could play me any music he liked, if I could crawl into those arms......... Off to fetch a bucket, very much needed...............

Favorite P&P Moment: Lambton Inn(both times) Blue Soup smile in BJD.

Here are mine: The Look in P&P. At the dinner table in BJD, after the "just as she is" toast, when Mark gazes at Bridget, wine glass in hand. Near the end of BJD, upstairs in her flat, when Mark leans in for a kiss. If there's any interest, I can probably provide an illustrated version of the list (most of it, anyway), once we have it all assembled.

(Rika) If there's any interest, I can probably provide an illustrated version of the list (most of it, anyway), once we have it all assembled. I, for one, have absolutetly NO interest in seeing illustrations of ODB's most romantic moments.......... ARGGHHH!!! Hurry!! Hurry!! Compile list quickly so Rika can go to it!!

(Maria) Compile list quickly so Rika can go to it!! I second the emotion! Will add a few, did not want to be piggy. Kitchen kiss - Fever Pitch Kiss with Marianne in labyrinthe Vertical mambo kiss with Lisa Zane - Femme Fatale Here Charles? kiss in mine - Nostomo Thou art...my sister my wife- Advocate Need to do some research on Lost Empires. Were so many. Need to do some research in general. Bye. Thanks Rika. Always look forward to your special talents.

Here are mine BJD leaning in to kiss her in the doorway of her flat, grey turtleneck BJD kissing final scene BJD Entire kitchen scene until Daniel arrives P&P Handing Elizabeth into the carriage at Pemberley FP Kissing (with shoulder action) Sarah the first time And just about every other scene mentioned in the other posts. Rika, looking forward to a visual list. YUM

(Kathleen)Thou art...my sister my wife- Advocate I didn't know, how to post this mumbling part, but it most definetly belongs on the list (along with just about every other scene..... as postet by Linda) I don't think anything from TIOBE has been mentioned. Well, one of the first scenes with FOC he says something like she is the most beautiful women he has ever met, since he met her (or whatever), also very romantic....

sorry - should off course be "woman", and I forgot to beg Rika for the visual list: would you please, please, please, please just get it done (please don't take me seriously - ever, just tried to express how much I look forward to seing it!)

Favourite moment from FP: when they're viewing the flat and he puts his arms around her. I melt every time I watch this!

(Kathleen) (Kathleen)what are your ten favorite romantic CF moments? I have just a few off the top of my head, including a few repeats..... "Say my name" scene in SLOW BJD doorway lean-in FF grocery store proposal Ditto Evelyn and Linda's BJD Blue Soup/kitchen scene P&P's verbal fights at Netherfield and Rosings Park (at least they are strangely romantic to me)

Short list... The Look The reminiscing in the music room over The Look Running down steps and across courtyard at Pemberley to catch up... (plus he looks AFG!)...all the way through the best legs in the biz walking with her (OMG, the steps....did I say he looked AFG?) Waiting for Lizzy in the inn with Georgianna. Hand into the carriage as she leaves Pemberley. Is there nothing I can bring for your present relief? (the hands!) BJD Dinner table BJD doorway attempts to latch on BJD final kiss *and the coat* More research needed...back into the trenches I go.

LE sleeping scene with Julie arms entwined. Descending stairs LE they have their arms around each other. Many more in LE as they have such great chemistry. Was very believable to me. When Darcy looks out of window at Lizzy after bath. When Darcy meets Lizzy in garden at Pemberley. Lean in doorway attempted kiss BJD Reminiscence scene at Pemberly in music room. First proposal argument. The look. Blue Soup grin and dimples. Look on Jack's face when Gwendolyn tells him she plans to grow in all areas.

The apology scene to MEM near the end of MLSF Paul and Sarah in bed at the end of their "Seasons" discussion, when he looks over at her and smiles smugly! Paul and Sarah approach one another for a final kiss during the Victory Celebration. The moment when Darcy and Elizabeth's hands first touch in the Dance at Netherfield. Also stairs scene at Pemberley. Valmont dancing with the 4 women, each in turn. Kissing Bianca in the maze in WOF Second the freezer dance and snog in FF. That last non-touching contact in the belfry between Birkin and Mrs. Keach. His gratitude for the apples showed he had already mastered "The Look" even at that age.

(Rika) I can provide an illustrated version. Oops, looks like there is about 10 times 10 here. Any suggestions on how to narrow it down Rika? Could make a case for any of these which I could take to the highest court in the land. We'd just need more women on the Supreme Court. Or would you like to surprise us? Thanks. KJArt The last non-touching contact in the belfrey between Birkin and Mrs. Keach. KJArt, I'm with you. This film is perfection isn't it? Similar to P&P, can feel the intensity, when she wakes him up in the graveyard and she leaves the loft and he falls on his bed! But nothing is happening that can be seen. Bless my active little brain.

One thing that will limit it somewhat is that I can't do captures from every film of his. Here are the ones I CAN get captures from: BJD, TIOBE, FP, LE, P&P, SLOW, MLSF, and DQ, along with three that are rather unlikely to make our list - COF, RV, and Conspiracy. So at the moment that leaves out the stuff mentioned from FF, AMITC, Nostromo, and HOTP/TA. We might be able to find relevant captures from some of them, or perhaps somebody out there who can get captures from VHS tapes can help me. Nobody's mentioned DQ. Even though he's a mess of bruises, I think their snog on the bed the night before he's taken away is very romantic. And his courtly appreciation for the mac & cheese always melts me too. (And, yes, DQ is on the list of possibilities for illustration.) It would be fun to have a vote on what the top ten should be, if we could come up with an easy way to tabulate the results....

BJD BJ: You're not going to America then? MD: So it would seem.

Barb picked my fav: Is there nothing I can bring for your present relief? (the hands!) Gah! the hands! *fanning face* 2nd fav: the leaning in for a nuzzle in the door way, before Bridget dashes off for genuinely tiny nickers

Voting Tabulation for Valentine's Day Favorite Romantic Scenes (For films Rika can capture) BJD - lean in at doorway 6 BJD - blue soup dimples 4 P&P - the look 3 P&P - 1st Propsal argument 3 BJD - final kiss 2 BJD - just as she is 2 FP - shoulder 2 FP - season discussion in bed 2 P&P - hand to carriage 2 P&P - waiting for Lizzy at Lambton 2 P&P - hand raking 2 Lean in is the runaway favorite! Honorable mentions FP - not the right mood 1 FP - DH Lawrence 1 FP - hug looking for flat 1 FP - end kiss 1 BJD - just as you are toast 1 BJD - so it would seem 1 MSLF - so sorry at end 1 LE - sleeping w/Julie 1 LE -going down steps with Julie 1 SLOW - say my name 1 TIOBE - ever since I met you 1 TIOBE - intend to develop 1 P&P - after bath Lizzy look 1 P&P - after pond meeting 1 P&P - running to catch up at Pemberly 1 P&P - 1st touch at Netherfield 1 If someone has a way to capture FF, Valmont, WOF, AMITC, Advocate, Nostromo I have those results too. FF - Freezer kiss 3 FF - vertical mambo kiss 2 WOF - maze kiss 2 Advocate - my sister my wife 2 AMITC - birkin and keach in belfry 2 Valmont dance - 1 Nostromo - Here Charles 1 Any suggestions Rika or anyone? The day quickly approaches.Difficult to concentrate however with new postings elsewhere today.

Good job, Kathleen! You're right about difficulty concentrating today due to other distractions. Whoa, mama..... I'll go to work on the top group. That should keep me busy for a while, at least when I can tear my eyes away from two photos I'm keeping plastered on my desktop.

I know I am very late to add but love the charming bit when MD and BJ are whisking eggs and mimicking Pam and Una...He is finally loosening up...Also first dimple sighting in P&P when he visits her alone around the time of "I call it a very easy distance.."

Wait there were dimples before that! I have mental blockage here, but isn't the phrase "On foot?" in the Netherfield Gardens? Then a smirk with dimples then a stroll behind her with coattails billowing. :) Sounds funny......

(Lisa) Wait there were dimples before that! You are so right Lisa...Maybe it is just that every time he flashes those dimples, it feels like the first time!!!

Ah, the list grows larger.....

(MariaT)Also first dimple sighting in P&P when he visits her alone around the time of "I call it a very easy distance.." Yes! My vote for the 50 miles of good road scene too. Love the way he looks at her, and the way he tilts his head as he takes his leave too. (Rika)Ah, the list grows larger..... Well, there are simply too many melting moments to choose from :-) . Looking forward to another lovely piece from you, dear DVDiva. Thank you so much!

DVDiva...after those pictures from yesterday you have your work cut out for you. At this point I'm in such a state of drool...I'll take anything.

Great job Kathleen. Agree Rika Whoa Mama on those great pics. He just keeps getting better and better.

(andie)Yes! My vote for the 50 miles of good road scene too. Love the way he looks at her, and the way he tilts his head as he takes his leave too. yeah, when he tilts his head and looks down at her chest before he goes out the door.. (laughing)... That's another time when Sam, my minion, takes on his Colin voice and states the word "boobies". (snickering)

(Rika)Ah, the list grows larger..... You can choose whichever moments you like. They all make me melt... Karen, thank you so much for the valentine-picture. Lovely as allways.

Sorry, forgot to post that the rose is my valentine-greeting to all of you wonderful fellow-droolers.

Thank you for the rose, Annette, and thank you, Karen for a very yummy trio of pics on the main Drool page. You've both made my rainy V-Day a little brighter :)

Thank you, Annette and Karen. Anyone celebrating today in Colin mode? Before DH gets home...I'm doing FP. After DH falls asleep...BJD. Think I'll have a glass of white wine and some chocolates, as well. SIGH

Speaking of celebrating in Colin mode..... Here's Part 1 of our illustrated Most Romantic Moments in CF Movies. I'm posting a link instead of the actual pictures because I've got the formatting "just so" and I don't feel like fighting with the conference software here to make it work. I hope you enjoy - there's more to come. http://www.spring.net/~rika/valentine/part1.html

Rika, loved the oops! Great job, great moments. Please put a link to that page for the next. I've bookmarked it.

Lovely, Rika! I have a soft spot for Matthew, too. However, CF is welcome in any incarnation. In fact, I didn't even vote since I couldn't seem to narrow my choices down (I let others choose for me). Can't wait to see part 2!

Rika, my all-time favourite producer. Thank you so much for part 1, especially loved the Matthew-gaze look. I can understand, he pointet that one out

Rika....I'm not caught up with reading past posts, but I must have my say in the matter...and what I have to say is....THANK YOU!! Perfect! A wonderful Valentine's Day treat and since I have no idea what everyone chose as their Most Romantic Moments, it is truly a surprise to me (and I'm enjoying every second of it)!!!

Rika, you are a genius and our once and future DVDiva! And you know, I'm sure you've got no time at all invested in this ;-) How good you are to us! Thanks!

Wow Rika! Didn't want to pressure you. (But was getting ready to). Yummy Matthew. Have not looked at an Ever Ready battery quite the same ever since. Could find 10 moments in SLOW too. Hair tousled, clothing nicely rumpled...but I digress. Love Sure-fire Hints for winning a women's heart. Who is that having the lie-down? Just wonderful Rika! Have long weekend ahead w/blizzard impending. Who cares?! Bring it on.

Rika!! Man oh Man!! We bow to your superior judgement..Of course Matthew Field should have been included!! Thank you so much for this Valentine present, it is the perfect feast for my eyes to accompaniment the wine I am presently enjoying..You are the best!!

Happy Valentine's everyone.........wow.....Rika....I'm Speechless.....hyperventilating...

Part 2 of the Most Romantic moments is posted. http://www.spring.net/~rika/valentine/part2.html As Moon suggested, as I add new pages I'm linking them to the old ones. So you can also enter at the first page and just work your way through. And some good news.... this project finally got me off my butt, and I bought the Snappy I'd been thinking of buying for ages. It arrived this afternoon (how's that for cosmic timing?) This means I can capture from VHS tapes. You'll see some of my first attempts at using it in Part 3 when it's ready.

Am I not adorable...? LOLing my head off! And you got THE HANDS!!! I thought you could not get the HANDS!? And now a Snappy? How shall I bear so much happiness? And him standing as Lizzy rolls away from Pemberley...mercy!

(Matthew)Still resting? Still waiting for company? Oh, here I am dear boy. I'll say your name all day long if you wish. Woah! Rika. You have outdone yourself. AFG, and what a Valentine treat. (Matthew) We asked for the Top Ten, but this group has been known to go "over the top" before, so we weren't surprised when they couldn't stop at just ten! Yeah, that would be us;-) Special thanks for the "handing into the carriage capture". I told you no matter how many times I see that scene it drives me over the edge...the capture does the same.

Thanks Rika, excellent, of course. I didn't vote either, everyone else named all the good ones so all's well anyway! Big sigh at Darcy standing with huge trees and shrubbery around him as Lizzy's carriage pulls awa from Pemberley. :)))))

I'm with Barb on this....I'm doing a little Snoopy dance in my cube at work!!! Rika has a Snappy!!! I shall burst from pure joy! Thanks for the second 'set'! Numbers 15 and 13 are killing me! Good choices ladies! Mark Darcy in the snow trying to get a kiss from crazy Bridget who just won't let him....and THE HAND Louisa, THE HAND!! I feel faint....that little curl that has escaped as he hands Lizzy into the carriage....

Marvelous, Rika! The dimples, the hands, standing there as Lizzy's carriage drives away, reminiscing about "The Look".... I'm in heaven! And to think there is more to come! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

This is great, Rika! As the *only* one who posted a vote for anything in SLOW (I also could find 10 moments here), I'm thrilled to see Matthew as our host! (And it is amazing how great the color turned out on that). Darcy has quite a few Oops! moments, LOL. And in the series of Darcy helping Lizzy into the carriage, you got another one of my favorite "hair looks great on the back of his head" shots like in BJD. Love those waves. :-) I'm still resting.... If it were up to me, you'd need it. And then I woke up ;-) Am I not adorable Master of understatement ;-)

All I can say is a repeat of everyone else. Wonderful job Rika. You are indeed the master, and certainly have given me the best Valentines ever. Thank you.

Rika, as FanPam wrote, all to do is repeat everyone else. I thought that by now I was getting really good at varying my comments, but now - words fail me! And - I will try to give you time and wait patiently for the next part (or maybe not). btw, I was never one to acknowledge Valentines Day in any way, but this has most certainly turned me around;-)

I like the "Oops"captions, Rika.Thanks Hope "On foot" is coming in Part 3. Several years ago a friend made a Power Tape of all the Lizzie/Darcy moments. Nice that I don't have to plow through all six episodes for my P&P fix.

Rika, you are amazing at capturing CF's amazing moments! I didn't vote either, but I knew you all would pick what stays in the mind's eye of all firthettes everywhere. And thanks for making Matthew the host in your "Field" trip through CF's wonderful moments in film. Always gives me a sudden urge for a tomato salad ;-). (Barb)And him standing as Lizzy rolls away from Pemberley...mercy! Rika, your captures are so precise, we can even see that it's "to the left" even from afar in this one! :-)

I'm glad y'all are enjoying the Valentine's Day special. I had intended to start it on the 13th, but just wasn't able to do so. A couple of comments: For those who have mentioned poor Darcy and his "oops" moments, there's at least one more on its way.... plus one for someone else. Unfortunately, "On Foot" was on the honorable-mention list that Kathleen assembled when she tabulated the votes (thank you, Kathleen!) ...... so not in the Top 20. I wish I'd had time to do them all. Two or three things off the honorable mention list made it onto the top 20 so it wouldn't be a "top 17" (and I couldn't bear to cut anything out and make it a "top 10" or "top 15").... but there were so many good suggestions! Incidentally, the order of #7 - #20 was arbitrary, since they all got the same number of votes, except that I saved the VHS-based ones for later on, hoping my Snappy would arrive in time. And, as you'll see in Part 3, it did! Part 3 is up now. The last two parts (4 and 5) are almost done and should be posted this evening. http://www.spring.net/~rika/valentine/part3.html

Mmmmmm, Mmmmmm good! Nothing like a confident man with an unbuttoned shirt. :-D

And, how's our Valentine from Rika today? We are thankful.;-) I can understand some of the problems with SLOW but nonetheless, it is among my top five most-frequently-viewed Firthfilms. Rika, I'd say you are adequately capturing why! As they say, one finger can not bring in the harvest... No, no, one man can not bring in the harvest.. No, that's not it either, Here it is: One fine gal can harvest the snappies and one man can bring in the ohhs and ahhhs!

(Caribou)Here it is: One fine gal can harvest the snappies and one man can bring in the ohhs and ahhhs! LOL, you all seem to have a way with words!!! Rika, once again. Beautiful captures. I especially liked the middle of the AMITC pictures. So close, and yet so far apart (heartbreaking, sniff)

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(Annette) Rika, once again. Beautiful captures. I especially liked the middle of the AMITC pictures. So close, and yet so far apart That one really got me, too. (Me) Mmmmmm, Mmmmmm good! Nothing like a confident man with an unbuttoned shirt. :-D On second thought....nothing like a confident man with *no* shirt (among other things). ;-D

Thank you Rika. So very very good and witty. Nothing is better than this.

(Annette) I especially liked the middle of the AMITC pictures. So close, and yet so far apart (heartbreaking, sniff) I know. I almost posted just that one for AMITC, but some of the close-ups were very good too. I was lucky to get that one - I don't yet have a set-up where I can pause the videotape and snap whatever I want, so I'm using a "continuous snap" mode where it takes pictures every few seconds till I tell it to stop. (Caribou)Here it is: One fine gal can harvest the snappies and one man can bring in the ohhs and ahhhs! Oh, I like that. Love the proverbs in that movie. I have a list of them somewhere.

Parts 4 and 5 of the Top 20 Romantic Moments are now posted: http://www.spring.net/~rika/valentine/part4.html Or if for some reason you want to start the whole thing from the beginning, now that it's finally complete. http://www.spring.net/~rika/valentine/part1.html Thanks to Kathleen for coming up with the original idea and doing the tabulations, to everybody who suggested such yummy scenes, to the people at Computers4Sure for shipping my Snappy quickly, and to everybody who's posted comments to let me know they enjoyed the pictures. Oh... and Evelyn, here's a bonus just for you. I wouldn't do this for just anybody! :-) "On foot?"

Rika, What can I say? I have just come across your Valentine snappies, and as usual, they are wonderful. And I have to say I totally agree with you. Matthew is AFG. The clothes! The hair!!

Rika, very nice job! Surely we can come up with an excuse to do this again...besides, you'll already have most of the pictures! Thanks!

LOL. Thanks, Rika, I'm honoured! D.(mockingly) "On foot"? L. (saucily) "As you see" Gets me every time.*sigh*

Matthew, Matthew, Matthew, Matthew....I'm a believer, Rika! I heard CF is looking for new representation. I nominate you because you can take someone AFG and make him even better. There are so many there that I don't get to see nearly enough (but I hesitate to say which one(s) because I don't want to hurt someone's ie. Matthew Tomahto, Say my name, Eddie Field's, feelings.) But let's just say how wonderful it will be to order up a big old bowl of #19,#15,#12,#8 or#1 just like a Chinese menu. It also has been nice to have a multiple day Valentines Day (similar to Hanukah or 12days of Christmas). I think we at Drool are the first in the nation. Always at the cutting edge. And you Rika started it! Really,really great. Long live the snappie!Thanks!

Rika, Rika, Rika Mark Darcy and Matthew...WOT an AFG combination.(And Mr. Darcy...you're not bad either) Oh that "string soup" capture is to die for. I'm sure glad Matthew gave Mark the leaning in lesson. He certainly put it to good use in the BJD doorway scene. Too bad we can't have sound. Just think about the little grunt that goes with that scene. I'm pure mush just now, pure mush. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

(Matthew Field)I don't quite understand what these Darcy gents have that I haven't..... a good scriptwriter, perhaps? Rika, loved the captures as well as Matthews commentary-track. I think, you should offer your services as scriptwriter! Evelyn, on foot gets me aswell (along with almost everyone of the captures) Thank you!

perhaps this is an old link: The CHIBI Strip Archive note the `firthette` charachter

(Kathleen) I heard CF is looking for new representation. I nominate you because you can take someone AFG and make him even better. Hear!! Hear!! Thank you again Rika for another wonderful job. Most appreciated.

Thanks for the CHIBI link, Odessa! Love those dreams.....

Well Rika I have nothing else to say 'cept.... BRAVO!! Thanks for the best valentine present! :-D And thanks for the "On foot?". One of my favorites, too. ;)

Rika you are a genius!!!! You put on all my favourites and I didn't even vote. Thank you so much. Too bad not every day is Valentine's day.:-(

Thanks, Rika!! Even after looking at them, I can't decide which one is my favorite. They are all too wonderful! And I thought Matthew's commentary was brilliant! Now that you have your snappy, I bet we can come up with all sorts of special interest projects for you. ;-)

Well done, Rika, thank you! BTW, I'm off to Grasse. ;-) An unusual number of you from Florida? There must be some explanation. To quote one of my colleagues, I shall conquer this - I shall! ROTF! There are quite a number of us here. ;-)

Rika, well done! Lovely pictoral--lovely commentary. A very nice Valentine's Day treat--thank you!

(Matthew Field, being petulant) An unusual number of you from Florida? (Moon) ROTF! There are quite a number of us here. ;-) I threw that in for you, Moon.

Loved your Valentine's treat, Rika! So funny and yummy. I especially love the BJD in-the-kitchen where he's really working those dimples. I always imagine the director coaching him on that look. And him practising in his mirror at home. Rika, these snappies are v. useful. I've managed to narrow my search for the china pattern from TIOBE thanks to the photo you posted a while back. Apparently the pattern is a Spode Trapnell Sprays, from the early 1900's. Thanks!!

I especially love the BJD in-the-kitchen where he's really working those dimples. I always imagine the director coaching him on that look. And him practising in his mirror at home. Oh please, no. This is as bad as telling us about all the "stand-ins." I have this fantasy that his smiles are all unrehearsed and extemporaneous.

Rika, I just wanted to add to the chorus of thank you's for your time & trouble in putting together a fantastic capture collection. Thank you *so* much!!!!!

Karen, The Valentine's collage is one of my fav's......thanks for putting it up again!

Rika, it bears repeating...thank you so much. I have, so to speak, tried to lead a few of the other female horses in the stable around me to water, with your Valentines show, but evidently they just don't know quality water when it is offered (they did like your commentary though...) Found this Italian link with 44 photos of ODB, a few of the older ones I hav'nt seen before.. http://film.spettacolo.virgilio.it/cinema/gallery.php?id=66907&persona=11990&ord=10

Maria, thanks for the link. The AMITC pics were the most interesting for me, since I haven't see that film. I swear he looks about 15, LOL! Love the one of him with the suspenders from TEP...

Thanks, Maria. Funny, though, pic #2 isn't Colin and Rupe from AC. It is Rupe with another of the boys.

(Moonstar) The AMITC pics were the most interesting for me, since I haven't see that film. I swear he looks about 15, LOL! A very skinny 15 year old!!!

Rika, thank you for your Valentine's Day treat: mmmm, better than Godiva. :-) Karen, the Valentine's Day 'card' on Drool's front page was delish, too. Thanks!

Thanks for the link Mari. The pics were good. Agree #2 wasn't Colin though.

(Evelyn) I have this fantasy that his smiles are all unrehearsed and extemporaneous. Me too. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

(Evelyn) I have this fantasy that his smiles are all unrehearsed and extemporaneous. (Rika)Me too. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. I'm glad we agree on this one. Couldn't bear(sp?) to se this fantasy squashed, like a stick insect on, well whatever.

Thank you Maria (moonstar)Love the one of him with the suspenders from TEP, I just watched TEP, again, last night. I did notice that I loved him in the suspenders, and today they show up. Lovely movie. I thought I rememberd his face being a lot fuller in this film. But on viewing last night, for pure CF factor, I noticed that he wasn't as filled out as I recalled. He looked great to me. Sigh...CF always looks great to me.

(BrendaL) Apparently the pattern is a Spode Trapnell Sprays, from the early 1900's. Thanks for sharing your find,BrendaL. I would not have had the first clue as to where and how to find out which pattern it was. When I first read 1900's, I thought they must have used a service from a National Trust house but Spode reissued the pattern recently. So, any of us who want, can, for a mere$105 for cup and saucer, join Cecily and Gwendolyn for a cup of tea. And if we want to pour from a matching pot, it will only cost an additional $470. Egads! Definitely added it's share to the cost of TIOBE production.:-)

Rika, thanks so much for the Valentine's Day "candy". Mari, thanks for the link. Quite a number of pictures I hadn't seen before.

I forgot to thank you for the link Maria. I went back to have a look at them all this morning (needed a "fix" to get startet on a long, busy day), and especially picture no. 42 produced, well if not vibrations, then an idea for Rikas next project. As far as I remember, I once picked up on ODB's singing performances, and would love to have an illustrated list. Is this something, you other girls would like aswell or am I being too silly on this one? (Rika - we (I) ask a lot, I know, I know - but you are the DVDiva and as with most titles - obligations follows;-)) I haven't postet anything about the bad manners of some people, and I do not want to continue along that road. Just want to say to Karen "in public", that I would love to continue to be a part of this group, whichever form it might take. And Karen - we love you, just as you are!

(Caribou)Thanks for sharing your find,BrendaL. I would not have had the first clue as to where and how to find out which pattern it was. You're welcome :-) All I did was email Rika's cup photo to various pattern search companies. And if you write Spode they'll tell you the store nearest you. Too bad about the price--I'll pass on this souvenir. Btw, Solomon Burke is on Letterman on Friday night. He was on Colin's latest CD list.

(Annette) Is this something, you other girls would like aswell or am I being too silly on this one? Pictures are *always* a good thing, as far as I'm concerned . See what you've started, Rika? You've spoiled us... (Caribou) for a mere$105 for cup and saucer, join Cecily and Gwendolyn for a cup of tea. And if we want to pour from a matching pot, it will only cost an additional $470 Yikes! The on-set insurance rep must have been a nervous wreck, LOL! Too rich for my blood; it'll have to go on the "things to purchase when I win the lottery" list, along with that fabulous chair from "La Selva" :)

(Evelyn) I have this fantasy that his smiles are all unrehearsed and extemporaneous. (Rika)Me too. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. (Annette)I'm glad we agree on this one. Couldn't bear(sp?) to se this fantasy squashed, like a stick insect on, well whatever. Oh, I couldn't agree more, ladies... I think that's one of his greatest appeals as an actor.. that he doesn't come across as forced, but very natural.. and those boyish unrehearsed smiles are to die for! Rika, you nearly killed me with your valentine.. no one could even possibly come close and you have now set the standard.. (laughing) I got so carried away from reading Matthew's suggestions that I had to go watch SLOW twice and eat a bowl of ice cream.. Yeah, I know, my psychologist loves me! (laughing)

(Evelyn)I have this fantasy that his smiles are all unrehearsed and extemporaneous. And I have this fantasy that I'm the director who's standing in front of a mirror with him, poking him in the cheek to show exactly which dimple I'm looking for. ;-D There are different degrees of dimpleness! Not to take anything away from his natural skills as a thespian, but I would like to know how aware he is of his dimple-power, and if he's ever uses it to his own advantage.

(Brenda) Not to take anything away from his natural skills as a thespian, but I would like to know how aware he is of his dimple-power, and if he's ever uses it to his own advantage. There are moments in his movies when I can't believe he isn't fully aware of what he's doing and the impact is has on women, which makes me think he's more than capable of doing the same off the set. Example: when Mark arrives at Bridget's flat on the blue soup evening and is trying to get himself invited in. He keeps his head more or less level, but raises his eyes up to hers, and it strikes me as very deliberately flirtatious. And entirely devastating.

(Rika) He keeps his head more or less level, but raises his eyes up to hers, and it strikes me as very deliberately flirtatious. And entirely devastating. Yes!! And then again at "Oh it's string soup"... Next stop, utter devastation...

Yeah, "string soup" was one of my favorite pictures in the Valentine's Day thing. I've had that capture sitting around for months waiting for a good occasion to use it.

(MariaT) Yes!! And then again at "Oh it's string soup"... Next stop, utter devastation... (Rika) Yeah, "string soup" was one of my favorite pictures in the Valentine's Day thing. I've had that capture sitting around for months waiting for a good occasion to use it. Gaaahh..*thud* Okay (picking self off floor)! I just had to go back and look at Rika's VD Special again (because I was questioning if that look was truly devastating ;-) )...I clicked on the bookmarked site (for easy and fast referencing I recommend this) and well, as Maria said...utter devastation! I must add that the pictures below that one are pretty dangerous as well (IMO)...the last two in that series ("Beetroot cubes, mini-gherkins, stuffed olives")! There should be cautions posted on any photos that have visible dimples...some of us can't view these without increased heart rate and light-headedness! ;-)

The string soup look is the most devastating use of dimples known to mankind, or firthettekind. It was that scene, that look, that brought the "moment" about. You know, the moment when your brain kicks in and says...Oh yeah...you've reached the point of no return, and obsession sets in. After two thousand rewinds of that first viewing of the string soup dimples, I ceased being the rational, level headed woman I thought I was.

(Tress) ("Beetroot cubes, mini-gherkins, stuffed olives")! There should be cautions posted on any photos that have visible dimples...some of us can't view these without increased heart rate and light-headedness! ;-) It is pretty much a charm festival and dimple decadence from when she opens the door to him to that last look over the wine glass. I think I would have thanked Daniel Cleaver for the champagne and asked him not to let the door hit him on the a** on his way out...

(MariaT) I think I would have thanked Daniel Cleaver for the champagne and asked him not to let the door hit him on the a** on his way out... LOL! "Buh-bye, Daniel!" And then told my urban family that although they were most welcome on most nights, a 'disappearing act' from them would be heartily appreciated on this occassion!

(LindaK) After two thousand rewinds of that first viewing of the string soup dimples, I ceased being the rational, level headed woman I thought I was. Well I can't say I was EVER rational or level headed, but I know what you mean about the "moment" and the 2000 rewinds (it is still not enough!)...;0)

Everytime I read your posting as to where his is most beautiful, charming and so forth I agree. Also about the multiple rewinds - that's why everything should be out on dvd (in my dreams, yeah). As to Murphys question about the romancepart (pardon me for being thickheaded), but isn't that our newly illustratet Valentine Special? I know, that still leaves the lovemaking scenes open for ranking. Is that our next project??? (wouldn't mind a little research;-))

I think the most devastating use of his smile(and dimples) is in DQ, when he is distribtuing leaflets in town. Totally natural and utterly breathtaking!

Who are we really kidding? It's ALL GOOD! (laughing) We've discussed "Our Precious" and his ambidexterous dimps before, and I still say the leaner he is, the deeper they are, and yep, I think if he's told to bring um on, he can... I can hear Ms. Maguire now.. "oh, Colin, (batting eyelashes) this time with MORE dimple" LOL... you KNOW it more than likely was like that, and probably will be again. He can also hide them sometimes.. as in "the look" in P&P .. his smile is almost completely in the eyes, and just the barest hint of left dimpleature. ;) So, what I'm saying now seems to not agree with my earlier statement about his smiles being natural, but I still say that most of his are.. with the exception of the obvious. (laughing) Look, I just finished Jane last night!

Re my "romance" question at 165. I didn't know it had already been covered -- sorry.

(Brendal) Not to take anything away from his natural skills as a thespian, but I would like to know how aware he is of his dimple-power, and if he's ever uses it to his own advantage. IMO of course he does. If you're blessed with the asset why not use it to it's greatest advantage. IMO it would be a fool who didn't or wouldn't. Besides have you ever met a man who doesn't use his good points to their best advantage. I haven't. And that IMO is to our benefit because we get to see those gorgeous dimples and smiles that much more. (MariaT) I think I would have thanked Daniel Cleaver for the champagne and asked him not to let the door hit him on the a** on his way out... (Tress) LOL! "Buh-bye, Daniel!" And then told my urban family that although they were most welcome on most nights, a 'disappearing act' from them would be heartily appreciated on this occassion! LOL Maria and Tress. Agree 100%. Would have done anything to be alone with him. Stupid Stupid Bridget.

(Jeanie) Look, I just finished Jane last night! I definitely see Jane but Murph's question about romance/love scenes made me pull out Nostromo and I also see Emilia Gould!

(Maria) a charm festival and dimple decadence I love this! (Murph) Re my "romance" question at 165. I didn't know it had already been covered -- sorry. Murph, Kathleen got us discussing this around Feb. 1. If you'd like to see the top 20, visit: http://www.spring.net/~rika/valentine/part1.html (Annette) I know, that still leaves the lovemaking scenes open for ranking. Is that our next project??? A couple of them made the romance list, but this still might have possibilities! (Janet) I think the most devastating use of his smile(and dimples) is in DQ, when he is distribtuing leaflets in town. Oh, heavens, yes, that's a good example. Visual aids: (Sorry they're a little blurry; I did my best)

Thanks for great "visual aids" Rika. The smile, nothing better.

(Annette) I know, that still leaves the lovemaking scenes open for ranking. Is that our next project??? (Rika) A couple of them made the romance list, but this still might have possibilities! I was kind of thinking along the same lines and was beginning some preliminary research. For instance, the mine scene in Nostromo is not romantic but it's always generated some heat for me, I guess that's what made me think of it. If we decide to proceed with this, fine, but I'll probably continue my independent study in either case ;-) BTW, unless someone mentioned it and I missed it, I don't believe Valmont's dance with Madame de Tourvel was mentioned for romantic moments. I'm not sure it's Top 20, but maybe it's Honorable Mention.

(lindak) It was that scene, that look, that brought the "moment" about. You know, the moment when your brain kicks in and says...Oh yeah...you've reached the point of no return, and obsession sets in. Yup, that was my "moment" too, LOL! Stomach does a little flip-flop, then a little gasp of astonishment and I thought "ohmigod...tall, dark, handsome, curly hair, and he has dimples TOO?!". Haven't been the same since :)

(lindak) It was that scene, that look, that brought the "moment" about. You know, the moment when your brain kicks in and says...Oh yeah...you've reached the point of no return, and obsession sets in. Got me thinking. When was your epiphany? I'm a late starter, but am making up for lost time! - Mine's was when he appeared outside Bridget's flat, as she was leaving for Paris. Made me go weak at the knees. I think my DH thought I was unwell, 'cos I left the cinema in a daze and had lost the power of speech. Quite unusual for me, I can assure you!

(Moonstar) Stomach does a little flip-flop, then a little gasp of astonishment and I thought "ohmigod...tall, dark, handsome, curly hair, and he has dimples TOO?!". Haven't been the same since :) The feeling was (is) exactly like falling in love. After the "moment" it was a continual awakening of the senses to his talents, his intelligence and humor, the causes (that we know of) that he believes in. It all came together for me when after watching BJD for about the 3rd time on cable, I really noticed him and then *noticed* how handsome he truly is, I got your stomach flops Moonstar and woke up with his name on my lips. That led to the internet and to lurking here for a bit before joining in and obtaining all his work I could and rushing home after work (literally breathless) to watch each one. The thrill definitely ain't gone!!

(Janet) Got me thinking. When was your epiphany? Mine is in two parts (I was 'born again' after several years)....the first time my stomach was a mess and I couldn't stop thinking about ODB was in 1989. My friend Pattie and I saw Valmont. That first screening....when ODB reaches down and kisses Cecile's hand. Mdme de Merteuil says something like: "Cecile, if you allow your hand to be held for too long, men will take that as an encouragement". I think I fell off my chair at that point. He flashes THE most amazing smile! I was a goner. I had the press kit and hung up all the pics that he was in on my dorm wall by my desk (not good for concentration). I re-rented AC to view (had seen it but not paid any special attention to ODB). And saw Valmont another 9 times in the theater...then all was quite for several years..... I noticed ODB in movies (SIL and TEP) but did not become born again until the first time I saw BJD. And again, it was the first scene....'Ding, Dong!' All he had to do was turn around (or he could stay with his back to me while I admired that too)! I had read the book (BJD) and had noticed the CF connection...thought it was very funny...had NOT seen P&P. I saw BJD several more times in the theater and then ordered my P&P copy. I have not been the same since.

(Janet) Got me thinking. When was your epiphany? It was during the first episode of the original A&E broadcast of P&P. The scene was the party at Lucas Lodge, right after Lizzy refuses to dance with him--the "fine eyes" talk with Caroline. I'd seen him before in LE and Valmont, and recognized his name on the opening credits of P&P ("oh, yeah, Colin Firth--I like him!") but it was not until that moment that I went totally round the bend.

(Janet)When was your epiphany? Like Tress, my epiphany was also in two parts, several years apart. The first was the episode in P&P (original telecast) when Elizabeth is leaving Pemberley and Mr. Darcy just looks so AFG when she turns to look back at him. Then I noticed him several times during reruns. He was always in the back of my mind, and I know I saw him on and off in other things. It wasn't until last January, that I picked up BJD in the video rental store...hadn't seen it when it was in the theater, didn't even know Colin was in it. (I know, I must have been on another planet). I even spent the first half of the movie convincing myself that it was Mr. Darcy. But, as I said as soon as he flashed the blue soup/string soup dimples...that was it. Then I found The Bucket, Karen, and the rest is history.

(Janet)When was your epiphany? 2 years ago, I rented a 'weekly' rental of P&P, a double video, not having ever heard of the specific production, wet shirts or CF. Mine was a pursuit of all films Austen. My husband was working overseas at the time and I recall being grateful, because I spent all my free time that entire week watching it. Over and over and over. My two sons were interested at first, but throughout the week, they would come in , shake their collective heads, and recite with the actors whatever lines were being spoken on the TV! :) A few weeks later I rented it again. This was about the time that BJD was coming out here in OZ, but for the life of me, I didn't connect the film with Mr. Darcy, having never read the book, and didn't go and see it in the theatre. Also, simply by some strange coincidence, I had never seen SIL or EP, the two more current, popular films he had been in. The scenes that grabbed me were when Darcy takes Elizabeth's hand in the inn, linda's 'leaving Pemberley scene', and my all-time heart-stopping non-Austen favourite is the 'On foot?' scene. Oh the dimples! And the delights that appear to be running through Darcy's head. There are more I'm sure, but the ones that don't do as much for me are the highly popular Music Room scene with "the Look", and the hand at the Netherfield Ball.

(Janet)When was your epiphany? A&E telecast, January 1996. All the Lizzie& Darcy scenes. Ditto with Linda's faves quoted above.

(Janet)When was your epiphany? I'm another whose interest goes back to the A&E P&P, and I'm also one of the two-stage converts. Like Lisa, my interest in P&P was Austen-related. As to when CF's Darcy really grabbed me, I cannot fix on the exact moment - I believe I was in the middle before I knew that I had begun. (Okay, that's not an exact quote from P&P, but I'm too lazy to look it up :D). I watched my own home-recorded VHS tape over and over and over and over.... but sadly, it never occurred to me to go online and look for like-minded people. I sought out CF in other movies, but the only ones I found were SIL and TEP, and it wasn't quite the same. Then I got busy studying for a Ph.D., and kind of lost track of him. I will always regret that I missed BJD in theaters - we were selling a house and moving and I was finishing my Ph.D, and I wasn't even aware it was out. DH came home from a business trip in the fall/winter and said, "I saw a movie on the flight that I bet you'd like. It's called BJD." Little did he know what he had just done. So I rented it and said, "Ding DONG!" And right around the same time, I got P&P on DVD for my birthday. And there were NEW SCENES that had been cut out of the A&E version (like "Wot?"). The one-two punch of these two things was more than I could stand. It took me a few months to think of looking online for information, but eventually I did, and here I am.

(Janet)When was your epiphany? I�ve always been a hopeless romantic and having read P&P, I felt the tv-series would �suit me just fine�. It did! I totally lost my heart to the whole production and to Mr. Darcy in particular. Then the the dry years followed. I missed out on seeing SIL in the cinema (for which I will never forgive myself), but went to see BJD as soon as it was in my area. This meeting with Mark Darcy knocked me right of my feat. I must have looked precisely like the maid (Alice?) in Relative Values, when she saw Don Lucas. I was floating on a sky when I left the cinema, and I have no intention of ever returning to �ground level� again.

I always wondered how P&P2 passed me by all those years ago. I then worked out, that at the time it was first shown, I had 4 young children, 2 of whom were toddlers, and transmission night (Sunday) was the night we visited my In-laws. I don't think I ever had time to read a newspaper or magazine, either. So I missed out on all the hulabaloo. Just as well that I did, though, 'cos I think I'd have lost the place completely!

I noticed him on the second time I watched P&P (where were my eyes on the first time?) Then I saw SIL trailer and it took me some time to discover why that one actor looked so familiar...and when I realised it was Darcy...I had to see SIL, and everything else he has done!

My epiphany? It was a Friday night, the second week after BJD was released. During the fight scene. I remember thinking how strange to be this excited watching 2 men try to fight. I don't want to analyze that too closely :-) I began a bit of research into CF. That was him in SiL?! That was him in CoF?! I reserved P&P at the library but it was taking weeks so I gave in and bought it. I was pacing myself by watching one hour a day but by day 3 I knew I was getting hooked. When I put in tape 5, the machine spit it out. I tried again and same thing. I looked at the tape and it was empty. I swear there was only a tiny bit of clear plastic tape. So at 8:30PM I was driving 15 miles to get to the store before it closed, praying there was another set of tapes there. There was and I spent the summer watching bits of P&P every day. I was very fortunate that the video stores in my town had quite a variety of his films. That just fed my growing obsession, and I'm still here.

Well, hmmm... (trying to recall)... I once saw "AZ" on cable, I think, or somewhere, I don't remember the details...AGES ago and was very much taken with "that darlin' boy" but didn't think about getting his name and such. Then came P&P, and it took me till about the middle of the second episode to make the connection... and, get this, I STILL didn't get his name. This is how things went for the longest time. I even walked out on "TEP" because he was cheated on.. (laughing), but I still didn't know his real name and he was always called "Mr. Darcy" in my mind. I also realized who he was in SIL, but still.. even though at that point (and you have to consider I was super mom at the time and hardly had a moment to myself)I was thinking.. "you know, you really need to find out who this beautiful man is and stop calling him "Mr. Darcy"..I didn't take time to do the research. LOL! Then, like Linda, I rented BJD for my daughter and I to watch, and I nearly passed out... I screamed as soon as he appeared in h s reindeer jumper, "That's the real Mr. Darcy and he's playing a Mr. Darcy in THIS movie!!!"... I think my daughter thought I had developed tourette's or something. Needless to say, I did take the time to find out his identity that time around. I had no idea he had such a following, and I didn't search the web for his name until last June, and I found you girls, and the rest is, (sighing happily), history. (grinning)

It started innocently enough. A couple of years ago I read BJD at the end of the school year during my traditional readahon. That reminded me how much I had loved P&P when I read it the summer before 8th grade. I reread it. Mr. Darcy was just as inviting 35 years later. So I rented P&P and within minutes found CF to be exactly the way I had pictured Darcy. I went over the edge about the time Elizabeth and Darcy walked up the steps at Pemberley. BJD reinforced the addiction. This board keeps it alive. I keep telling myself "It's a harmless thing . . ."

(MariaT) It all came together for me when after watching BJD for about the 3rd time on cable, I really noticed him and then *noticed* how handsome he truly is, I got your stomach flops Moonstar and woke up with his name on my lips. That led to the internet and to lurking here for a bit before joining in and obtaining all his work I could... The thrill definitely ain't gone!! Well said Maria, that's exactly how it happend with me too. I honestly feel the thrill will never be gone for me and that's a great feeling.

(Janet)When was your epiphany? (Annette)I?ve always been a hopeless romantic and having read P&P, I felt the tv-series would ?suit me just fine?. It did! I totally lost my heart to the whole production and to Mr. Darcy in particular. So it was with me. That was in the summer 1996 when it was first shown on Swiss TV. Luckily for me it was not dubbed as most films are, because his voice had a big part in my falling for him. From then on I looked out for everything about ODB. I'm very glad to have found this place where my obsession is shared by so many :-)

(NitaE) Luckily for me it was not dubbed as most films are, because his voice had a big part in my falling for him. Me, too! I am a huge fan of his voice as well...there are other handsome actors out there, but they just don't do it for me. When you get that voice (the dimples and fine eyes don't hurt).....perfect! IMO, no one else will ever play Mr. Darcy like ODB! He just sounds the part to me. Oh! And he's a v. v. good actor as well!! I sometimes forget to add that bit. ;-)

I have two very jealous relatives. I was talking to my sister-in-law and her best friend (who also happens to be my future niece!) tonight at a family birthday celebration - I know, I have a complicated family! They were devastated to hear that I had tickets for the world premiere of HS, because they, too, are devoted fans. The men of the family are totally perplexed, but trying to be cool about it. I think if we had our way, we girls would all disappear for the weekend and leave the men to it! BTW, My DH and I have decided to make a night of it, and booked into a hotel. If anyone else is interested, some hotels are offering special rates if you quote Bradford Film Festival at the time of booking. We got a great rate at the Hilton, which is only a few minutes walk away. Looking forward to meeting fellow Droolers there.

Oh Janet, I'm so envious!! Have fun and say hello to all the Droolers there!! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that ODB will be there and you will all get to meet him!!

(Tress)Oh Janet, I'm so envious!! Have fun and say hello to all the Droolers there!! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that ODB will be there and you will all get to meet him!! Me too!!!!

(Tress), I'm keeping my fingers crossed that ODB will be there and you will all get to meet him!! Have a plan in case he is also staying at the Hilton. ;-D Looking forward to your report, Janet. We want a complete synopsis of the movie. If you've read the book, we'd like to know how the two compare. And... you must take a camera!

Janet, I am all anticipation! I'm with Moon, you must take a camera so that your DH can take a photo of you with ODB's arm around you.

(LisaJH)Janet, I am all anticipation! I'm with Moon, you must take a camera so that your DH can take a photo of you with ODB's arm around you. Ditto, Good luck Janet. My heart is fluttering just thinking about it.

Good Luck, Janet, Emma and all you fortunate ladies going to Bradford. Really hope he is there. Can't wait to hear what you thought about HS. Have alot of fun.

Rika, I just got around to looking at your Valentine's Day treat--capital, capital! Not to mention yummy!:-) Thanks. Janet, I hope your video camera works under low light conditions.;-)

According to the lady at the Box Office, the actual premiere for HS is before the public screening . It will be invitation only. So far they know that the director is coming, but they don't know about the cast. I don't know when "before" is..... a couple of hours before the public screening, I guess. Th Museum at Bradford has a huge foyer, with entrance to the Pictureville to the left, IMAX straight ahead, and an open plan bookshop to the right, so it's very easy to hang around and monitor who is coming and going. If you have time to fill in, you can look roumd the museum (it's free), watch an IMAX movie, or have a meal/snack in the restaurant. No need to hang round in the cold!

(bethan)According to the lady at the Box Office, the actual premiere for HS is before the public screening . It will be invitation only. So far they know that the director is coming, but they don't know about the cast. Oh well, I guess I'm really not too surprised! - But I suppose at least I get to see it a good five weeks ahead of it going on general release. C'est la vie!

(Bethan)So far they know that the director is coming..... Don't dispair , Janet...maybe Matthew Mondine will show up;-)

But I suppose at least I get to see it a good five weeks ahead of it going on general release I don't really think the Box Office staff know anything about it - other than there are two screenings . Don't give up hope!

Let's keep the dicussion of the News about the Bradford FF over at 165. Will move your comments, Moon.

A comment from Yahoo Movies Message Board for "Girl with a Pearl Earring" "Yeh , can't wait till it comes out. My sister who helped Jenny Shircore do the make up on it said it will be a beautiful film. Very exciting stuff" Thanks for the info on HS Karen!

(Moon) And... you must take a camera! And please, please, make sure there's film in that camera!! Janet and Emma, am v.v. envious. Have a great time and don't be shy about pushing the papparazzis out of the way.

And if you need any coaching on Standing On Potted Plants, you might want to check with Dorine before you go!

(Moon) And... you must take a camera! Take two! Winter had one that malfunctioned at the SIL premiere in LA.

Karen, Thanks for the pic on the 'Front Page' Simply perfection!

(Barb S, in 165) if I leave and come back, can you do one of those for me? I've just dropped by the party because I understand that some of you ladies have been looking for me...... and might want to share a cup of tea.

Oh Matthew, we do want to share, but get rid of the tea.

(From 165--Barb S) if I leave and come back, can you do one of those for me? (Rika) Have left a little something in Firthology. Was holding my breath when I clicked next, did not know what to expect. Very nice choice, thank you kindly! Such lovely hands... must get mind back on work...really

Thank you all for the news and pictures. I am all with you regarding the towels and such ;-) Rika, I have a request: Could you make a capture of the rose from AMITC? I just got the screenplay from the library, which differs in some ways from the film. I thought of posting some of the differences in case any of the other newbies would be interested along with a nice little picture of the rose. But - the Sarah Van Fleet is a pink rose. Therefor - the rose from AMITC cannot be a Sarah Van Fleet, and now I'm determined to find out, which rose it could be (perhaps because I also have this idea of planting one this summer in my garden). Sorry about the babbling - I think it is due to a need to escape from "real life"

RIKA! Ohhhh...thanks (and Barb too! For making the 'request')! Those fingers Louisa! And I love the furrowed brow...*sigh*

Rika, Wonderful screen captures, as always! How do you manage it? And I think I'll have to reassess my previous opinion. He looks his absolute best here. - Not the greatest movie he has made, I know, but for eye candy, this is simply the best.

(Janet2)He looks his absolute best here. - Not the greatest movie he has made, I know, but for eye candy, this is simply the best. Agreed... must have something to do with the light in Grasse... Would love to see him in a movie filmed in that magical Italian light

Rika - thanks so much for all of the wonderful screen-caps. Have only just dropped in for the first time in over a week, and you folks have really been busy! Took hours to catch up on all the posts. Lisa > Big sigh at Darcy standing with huge trees and shrubbery around him as Lizzy's carriage pulls awa from Pemberley. :))))) When I read this, I thought, "There were TREES and SHRUBS in that pic???" I actually had to go back and look at it again! *LOL* And I volunteer for the local Forest Campaign Group. Sheesh! That man is SO distracting.

(Jane) When I read this, I thought, "There were TREES and SHRUBS in that pic???" LOL Jane, he *is* rather the focal point, isn't he? But of course there were trees and shrubs, they're the ones D & E will be using to such advantage in all the firth-coming fan fiction!

Thanks for the great pics Rika. Nothing better to cast the eyes on before going to bed. Will bring such great dreams.

just got caught up on this topic and saw your great valentine's treat for us Rika - was wonderful beyond words! thank you, thank you, thank you!!! :-)

(Jane) When I read this, I thought, "There were TREES and SHRUBS in that pic???" LOL. I had exactly the same thought when Lisa posted her comment. (Annette) Could you make a capture of the rose from AMITC? Give me a day or two and I'll do my best. If the movie were on DVD I could turn it out in a hurry, but VHS captures take longer. By the way, I wanted again to thank everybody who has made a comment about the Valentine's Day web site. I spent quite a bit of time on it, so it's good to know that it was appreciated. And as I said before, we owe Kathleen a big "thank you" for coming up with the idea for the Top 10 Romantic Moments poll to begin with.

(Rika) By the way, I wanted again to thank everybody who has made a comment about the Valentine's Day web site. I spent quite a bit of time on it, so it's good to know that it was appreciated. And as I said before, we owe Kathleen a big "thank you" for coming up with the idea for the Top 10 Romantic Moments poll to begin with. Again just want to thank you for all the memoriable moments you give us Rika. Everything is so much appreciated. The Valentines Day site was outstanding but so is everything else your do. And to Kathleen your idea was brilliant. You make a great team.

I was searching for some "behind the scene" pictures from Relative Values and came across this page. There aren't any new pictures of ODB (none from RV at all), but some of the other actors from TIOBE and BJD, that I haven't seen before (even Hugh Grant, Rika ;-)) http://www.gregwilliamsphotography.com/features/ btw, would anybody want to read "the missing scenes" from AMITC?

(Annette) btw, would anybody want to read "the missing scenes" from AMITC? Sounds interesting!

(Annette)btw, would anybody want to read "the missing scenee" from AMITC? Count me in. I just recently saw this film for the first time and would love to learn more about it. Thanks, Annette.

Me too. It one of my favorites. Cause it's one of the ones I have at this point, but got WoF in the mail today and can't wait!

(Beedee)...but got WoF in the mail today and can't wait! Oh Beedee! I like WoF. Some of the characters are a bit over the top, but ODB is yummy (I remember a couple of amazing smiles)! And! It has one of the best (IMO, of course) CF shag scenes! Enjoy! And let us know what you think of it!

(Annette) would anybody want to read "the missing scenes" from AMITC? Count me in!

(Annette) would anybody want to read "the missing scenes" from AMITC? Count me in too please. Thank you.

I'm betting that more went on in that belfry than just some apple tasting. ;-)

(Annette) would anybody want to read "the missing scenes" from AMITC? I'd love to,add me to the list, please.

Yes Annette, I'd love to be included as well. Thank you so much. I don't know what it is about lofts and belfrys...in CF movies. They always seem to have a lot more going on than meets the eye, or just lousy editing;-)

I'm not sure, I can promise anything revealing from the belfry;-) but - I will post the missing scenes as soon as I have got it typed down. Just give me time, girls, give me time ;-)

Reposting here re Karen -- from my old attic files: I spend far too much time with this cutie pie gent -- I'm going to give up Colin for Lent. I'm counting in pixels, I've developed a squint -- I really must give up Colin for Lent. Outside grows the lilac, I breathe in the scent -- No time if I don't give up Colin for Lent. If I want to make cookies -- chocolate or mint -- I'll have to give up my Colin for Lent. I'm up after midnight reading messages sent -- (Big Yawn) I need to give up Colin for Lent. I once had a life, attended events -- No more, until I give up Colin for Lent. A wedding's a comin' and a Blessed Event -- Can't plan them unless I give up Colin for Lent. I forget to pay bills, I'm behind in my rent -- I surely must give up Colin for Lent. I'll miss all the news, but in any event -- It's better to give up Colin for Lent. I meant what I said, & I said what I meant -- I'm definitely giving up Colin for Lent. What's that you said? A new picture to print!!! Well, next year I promise to give up Colin for Lent.

(Murphy)What's that you said? A new picture to print!!! Well, next year I promise to give up Colin for Lent. LOL, the story of my life. And no, I didn't give up Colin for Lent.

(Linda) LOL, the story of my life. And no, I didn't give up Colin for Lent. Me either Linda. I'd give up chocolate first!!! Nice poem Murph. Thanks.

Also liked the poem, and I'll join Linda and FanPam. Not giving up ever! Here is what I promised from AMITC. I apologize in advance for any missing tags and whatever have you. I might have left out something, but then I'll try to get back to it later.

After the first night in the belfry, Birkin is shaving outside. EXT. VILLAGE STREET. DAY BIRKIN walks up the street, passes DOUTHWAITE working in his blacksmith�s forge. He nods to BIRKIN, who nods back. A MAN on crutches walks pass him. BIRKIN enters small Post Office, which is also the local store. In the corner a young man, blind, (obviously from the war) is sitting. Several people talking in there fall silent, at the stranger�s arrival. BIRKIN picks up the Daily Mail, takes money from his pocket, looks anxiously at how little he has, decides to buy cigarettes. BIRKIN: (To the woman behind the counter) A pa-pa-pa-packet of ci-ci-ci (BIRKIN can�t finish the word. He stops, defeatet, amid glances. Pays for the newspaper.) Th-th-th-thank you. (BIRKIN leaves.) INT. CHURCH. MORNING ������.. INT. BARTON TERRY CHAPEL, Birkin in the pulpit: This last part has been left out: Now I�ll tell you about my tools. What I basically use is a lancet � that�s for lifting off the limewash. Then I have alcoholic solution of hydrochloric acid � EXT. OUTSIDE CHAPEL. AFTERNOON We come in on the elderly from the congregation, the old man in front. Pause on his face. Cut to BIRKIN�s face, apprehensive, and cut back to the old man�s face. The old man nods acknowledgement, turns away, the others following him. BIRKIN stares after them, then turns to KATHY and EDGAR as LUCY SYKES, in shot, locks the chapel door. KATHY: (To EDGAR) They liked it, didn�t they? EDGAR: But our Dad�s louder. (LUCY SYKES approaches. Little pause.) LUCY: You could come and have your tea. BIRKIN: Well, I � I came with these two. LUCY: They can come too. After he leaves the Ellerbecks � before the screaming at God in the graveyard. EXT. VILLAGE. LATER Cut to BIRKIN walking through the village. As he does so, he passes the blind young man sitting on the doorstep. BIRKIN, glancing at him, continues walking, his face set. The nightmarescene with Moon crying, which follows Birkins screaming at God in the graveyard in the movie, is placed after the pressing of the rose in the book in the belfry in the screenplay. After Mrs Keach has been on the scaffold and thanks Birkin ;For letting me see: EXT. VILLAGE PUB. DAY Later. Opposite the pub is the chapel. BIRKIN and MOON are sitting on the bench outside the Shepherd�s Arms. As they talk, PEOPLE are entering the chapel. Among them the ELLERBECKS, who don�t see BIRKIN and MOON. Then the scene which in the movie takes place in the pub, where Moon talks about the war, follows . The �acting� in the movie is different than suggested in the screenplay; The screenplay says for Moon to be cheerful and grin at the end of the conversation, where in the movie, he weaps. After this, another missing scene: BIRKIN: (Standing up) I�ll get us another � (BIRKIN begins to go into the pub,. Puts his hand into his pocket, takes out a few coins, looks down at them, stops.) I�m sorry, I can�t. MOON: Keach still hasn�t coughed up, eh? Then you�ll just have to go and get it from him, won�t you? Like a good soldier. Tell him you need it to drink a toast to that lost beauty, his wife. Tonight�s on me. (Gets up, then turns back.) Did she get you to show her the painting? I saw her going into the church. BIRKIN: Yes. MOON: I told her you wouldn�t, but I was sure you would. (BIRKIN stands, looks towards the chapel, from which comes the discordant hymn, voices even louder. He suddenly smiles.) BIRKIN: That�s more like it. followed by the scene, where he goes to the vicarage to collect his money. Another difference in acting from the screenplay takes place in the wood, after the shot. In the screenplay Birkin is attempting to smile, then says the words of believing in paradise (He smiles, MRS KEACH smiles back. They part.) e.n. Not excatly what I remember from that scene (more rage than smile). Missing scene after this: INT. CHURCH. DAY BIRKIN on the scaffold. He is cleaning the last stages of the whold omage of the falling man. We see him working on a detail, not clear what it is. He steps back and takes in the whole image. His face expresses controlled excitement. Cut to image. A cresent-shaped star on his brow, bright hair streaming like a torch (a second Simon Magus), plunging headlong sown the wall. Two demons with delicately furred legs clutching him, one snapping his right wrist while his mate splits him with shears. BIRKIN: (Mutters) I wonder what you did then. (The sound of footsteps below. BIRKIN is unaware.) MOSSOP: (Out of shot) Mr Birkin. BIRKIN: (Still engrossed) Mmmmmm? MOSSOP: (Out of shot) Don�t forget tha�t standing umpire again this Sunday, Mr Birkin. BIRKIN: What? (BIRKIN turns and sees MOSSOP) Oh, no, I�m afraid I can�t, Mossop, I�ve got an important engagement. Sligthly maliciously) You�ll have to do it, I�m afraid. MOSSOP: I can�t neither, Mr Birkin. I�m busy too. BIRKIN: Then it�ll have to be the Colonel. (BIRKIN turns back to the painting and we see again the falling man.) EXT. CROSSROADS. MORNING Shot of crossroads, hot. Absolute stillness. BIRKIN standing at it, his coat slung over his shoulder. MOON stands nearby. Their faces expectant, turning to look down one road, and then the next, and cut back to the crossroads. Then, almost inaudible at first, a clip-clop of horses� hoofs, growing louder and louder, cut badk to their faces. Then, locating where sound is coming from, they look down the road, and there suddenly appear two flat-wheeled carts. BIRKIN and MOON are delighted. The horses glint with farthingales. The horses stop beside them. They climb into the first cart, which is less full. EDGAR: Mr Birkin, Mr Birkin! (BIRKIN pauses, turns.) You�re with us. (KATHY nods in agreement. BIRKIN moves to the second cart, sits between KATHY and EDGAR, across from the ELLERBECKS and others. In Moon�s cart, DOUTHWAITE, his fingers in plaster, the blind man from the Post Office and several maimed men and LUCY SYKES. MOON sits next to LUCY SYKES. On the bench, the adults, the children sitting with their legs over the side of cart. BIRKIN squeexes in between the adults on the bench, then takes in MOSSOP sitting beside him, and evidently MRS MOSSOP beside MOSSOP. MOSSOP greets him with a nod.) BIRKIN: What are you doing with the chapel lot? You�re church, aren�t you? MOSSOP: Nay. Ay�ve me fee at i�beath camps. The lot of �em ha� git ti come at t�finish to let me put �em ti bed. EDGAR (Out of shot) There she is, Mr Birkin. (Cut to EDGAR�s face, serious, beside it KATHY�s grinning not entirely pleaseantly. EDGAR pointing to the front cart, and as BIRKIN turns, sees at back of front cart, LUCY SYKES among the maimed men and next to MOON, who gestures triumphantly back at BIRKIN. LUCY SYKES from BIRKIN�s point of view, and then we see her cart, Birkin�s cart, trundling through the countryside, idyllic.) EXT. FIELD BESIDE RIVER. DAY Fire burning, kettle on it, and scattered around, the company, the ELLERBECKS, the MOSSOPS, and then LUCY SYKES, all from BIRKIN�s point of view as DOUTHWAITE by fire leads them in the doxology as: men without jackets larking around, younger men and women in pairs talking, sidling aff, EDGAR off with other BOYS collecting sticks, the women sitting around talking, among them, to one side LUCY SYKES watching MOON as he demonstrates in mime how he intends with his rod to locate Piers�s grave. The men begin to leapfrog in background. BIRKIN turns his head suddenly; we see beside him KATHY. KATHY is looking towards LYCY SYKES. KATHY: What are you going to do now, Mr Birkin? (BIRKIN sees LUCY SYKES glancing towards him. The men playing leapfrog in the background begin to divert MOON�s attention.) BIRKIN: Why, talk to you of course, Miss Ellerbeck. (Pause) KATHY: What about? BIRKIN: I don�t know. But you usually have something to say about things. KATHY: You�ll be leaving soon, won�t you? BIRKIN: Well, as soon as I�ve finished. KATHY: Why? BIRKIN: Well, I�ll have to go somewhere else where I can make a living. (BIRKIN sees MOON say something to LUCY SYKES and with a self-depreciating laugh run over to the leapfroggers and joins in. KATHY, taking in that LUCY SYKES is now alone, more urgently pursues her conversation with BIRKIN. LUCY watches MOON leapfrogging, clearly aware of BIRKIN.) KATHY: My mam says she doesn�t see how you can make a living at your job. She says there can�t be all that many pictures hidden on walls. BIRKIN: (Grins.) Well, it�s true I don�t make much of one. KATHY: Well then, why don�t you change your job and stay on at Oxgodby? BIRKIN: Why? KATHY: What? BIRKIN: Why should I stay on in Oxgodby? KATHY: My mam and dad have taken a liking to you, for one thing. BIRKIN: What about you, do you think I should stay on? KATHY: Lots of my friends would miss you. They like to think of you at your work. From the way I tell them about it. And I�ve told them about your roughing it up in the belfry, they like that too. BIRKIN: But you still haven�t answered for yourself. Why do you want me to stay? KATHY: Anyway you�re too late. (BIRKIN follows KATHY�s gaze. Cut and see from his point of view and KATHY�s a young man bending over LUCY SYKES, saying something. LUCY SYKES rises, goes off with the young man. BIRKIN turns to KATHY, who is grinning. KATHY runs off towards EDGAR. From BIRKIN�s point of view we see KATHY running towards EDGAR. She turns, looks towards LUCY SYKES and the young man, who are walking off. MOON is in a state of great wxhilaration, catches BIRKIN�s eye and laughs wildly. BIRKIN smiles back. We take in KATHY and EDGAR watching, amazed.) EXT. COUNTRY ROADS. LATE AFTERNOON Shot of the carriage returning in the dusk. LUCY SYKES and the young man in first carriage. Also MOON, expression reflective, almost sad. KATHY, EDGAR, MR and MRS ELLERBECK in the second carriage with BIRKIN sitting opposite them. ELLERBECK asleep. KATHY, her face set, seen from BIRKIN�s point of view, clearly avoiding his gaze. BIRKIN continues to look at KATHY, who stares gravely back at him. BIRKIN smiles. KATHY, suddenly unable to help herself, grins, as the carriages com to a halt. Voices from the first carriage. KATHY, in an attempt to retrieve her dignity, looks away from BIRKIN. She looks serius as MOSSOP approaches the carriage. MOSSOP: It�s Emily Clough. She died this afternoon. (Cut to BIRKIN�s face, he looks towards KATHY. Cut to KATHY�s face. BIRKIN looks towards KATHY as carriages start up. Cut to shot of carriages continuing down the road, around the bend, in the twilight. Fade on carriages disappearing.) Next scene: The Colonel sees the mural....................... Inside the organ-shop, in the screenplay the Keach�es are there as well. Outside at the marked, the screenplay says, that Birkin and Mrs Keach smile to each other. When they did for Piers� grave, the screenplay says Mossop is eating his lunch beside them, not saying anything, and there are schoolchildren, including Kathy, around them. They gradyalle disperse. Then the part, where they find �the bones�. Only major difference is that MOON is taking photographs during the digging. Last missing scene: After Kathy has been calling for Birkin, when he was sitting in the belfry. INT. BELFRY. EVENING Later. BIRKIN gets up, leaves belfry. EXT. VICARAGE. NIGHT BIRKIN approaches, looks at the lit windows, hears the violin, turns and goes. Then the departure-scene. Only difference, Birkin and Moon shakes hands in the screenplay.

Oh Shoot! Now I'm gonna have to see this video again today. Thanks Annette and LOL Mary, I can't give him up for lent either!

Thank you Annette! I'll have to view the video again too!! Jeez! I hate that when that happens!! ;-D And give up ODB for Lent?? Nevah! That would mean missing the WAGW premiere! I can't miss out on all that leather. I would never admit to having that kind of self control (and I'm glad to see I have some company!!) ;-)

Oh Shoot! Now I'm gonna have to see this video again today. Thanks Annette and LOL Mary, I can't give him up for lent either!

Cruising IMDB for Australia release dates - still none for WAGW, but Hope Springs is coming out July 24th.

Thanks so much, Annette, for sharing what you found on AMITC. I'm looking forward to watching it again this weekend. Loved your lovely poem, Murph. Colin would definitely qualify as a "worldly pleasure", but I'm not giving him up! I"m thinking chocolate, I'm thinking wine, I'm thinking pastries...

Thanks for typing all this up, Annette. I'll have to print it out and watch the film now. I'm especially interested where you've indicated differences in how it is played.

(Karen)I'll have to print it out and watch the film now. Oh my, that's what I did until too late last night. Tried to pay close attention to the differences but got lost in the eyes, the hands, the..... I'll take a better look for differences next time.

Thank you, Annette! I just finished reading it, but will obviously have to rewatch now (which is no hardship at all because I love this movie).

Thank you, Annette...back to the VCR for me as well!!!

(Tress)Oh Beedee! I like WoF. Some of the characters are a bit over the top, but ODB is yummy (I remember a couple of amazing smiles)! And! It has one of the best (IMO, of course) CF shag scenes! Enjoy! And let us know what you think of it! Well I'm not getting much sleep these days what with WOF and reviewing AMITC! WOF was lovely to watch. Lovely face, great strides, tripping up and down stairs, and what that guy can do with his coat tails! Great shag scenes and a lovely soft "yes"! Kind of like those lovely yesses in Valmont when he's in his room soaking wet. I just love those yesses ummmmmmmmm. But I kind of lost the thread of the story. Bet there was a film discussion here, no? I'll probably get it the third or fourth or well, you know.

Loved the Lent poem Murph! Thanks :-)

Thanks for the missing scenes Annette and for typing them up. Good job.

Yep, there was a film discussion of WOF not all that long ago. If you go back on that topic, you should be able to find it.

My DH is going to London on business on Tuesday. And where is he staying? - The Hilton in Islington. It's just not fair! He laughed when I told him where ODB lives, and feels he just can't escape the guy!

Annette, I'd also like to add my thanks for taking the time to type up the 'extra bits' of AMITC. Haven't watched it in ages, and will give me an excuse... (Janet) He laughed when I told him where ODB lives, and feels he just can't escape the guy! Janet, don't feel bad--I'm known as 'Obsessia' at my house.;-) *hangs head in shame...*

Annette, thanks for the AMITC extras! I'm going to have to watch it this weekend. (LisaJH) I'm known as 'Obsessia' at my house ROTFL! I'm glad my DH hasn't thought of this.

Annette, thanks so much for the extras..I'd be at my TV right now but I have company for the weekend and I don't think they'd be happy if I completely ignored them for the better part of the weekend! (Janet) And where is he staying? - The Hilton in Islington. It's just not fair! What do we have to bribe him with so he can take you?;-)

Yep, there was a film discussion of WOF not all that long ago. If you go back on that topic, you should be able to find it. I knew you'd make me do the work. "I'll do it". But...thought perhaps some other fithette might weaken and slip me the #'s. So I will stoop to cheat at times. Nono, I'll go back.

You will find the WOF discussion starting here: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/98.1825

I thought I'd better move to the survey course topic for my next formulae: 1. MB(CF+MH)= 0 2. CF-MB > 1 3. (CF + RZ )2 = TEOR (Sorry...just in a silly mood today...:-))

Thanks for your help to the WOF discussion posts Karen! Lots of great ideas and insights. I have been sneaking back to it all day. Now I can't wait to see the film again. This time will try to take my eyes off ODB to take in the details.

2B + ~2B + CF = :-) 2B + ~2B - CF = :( A+ 4 (CF + HG) = HS... (Oh, what's the sign for infinity? I should have studied harder and practiced more.)

(LisaJH) MB(CF+MH)= 0 You cannot alter the rules of math: zero times anything is zero and MB = 0 You get an A!

I work with numbers every day and it do get boring from time to time. But - from this day I will just put CF in my equations; that'll do me. Arithmetichs will never be the same again. (having just seen L.. I must agree on MB; He *is* the full zero).

(Karen)You cannot alter the rules of math: zero times anything is zero and MB = 0 Exactly. It's a shame HBO didn't do the math first. ;-) Coulda saved them $$. (Thank God ODB didn't to a cameo on TMOTMM.)

Just found out that CF is featured in a four-page spread in yesterday's Sunday Telegraph here in Oz. The article is an exact reprint of one that was originally printed in England, I think - I had deja vue reading it. Photos are all ones we've seen before. The only truly *interesting* bit was the tagline at the end of the article -- What a Girl Wants opens April 3!!! WOOOO HOOOO!! A CF film opening in Australia BEFORE the States! Can you imagine?? *lol* That's gotta be a first, I think. Time to start planning another CF movie outing down under, I think. What bothers me about this is that, although I have been really hunting for *any* publicity, I have yet to see a single trailer, commercial, movie poster or even *mention* of this movie other than the recycled article in yesterday's telegraph. So it seems they're throwing it to the wolves here... no publicity whatsoever for this film...

(Jane) A CF film opening in Australia BEFORE the States! Can you imagine?? *lol* That's gotta be a first, I think....What bothers me about this is that, although I have been really hunting for *any* publicity, I have yet to see a single trailer, commercial, movie poster or even *mention* of this movie other than the recycled article in yesterday's telegraph. So it seems they're throwing it to the wolves here... no publicity whatsoever for this film... Have you not considered other alternatives, i.e., that the date is wrong? I would. Movies like this do not typically open outside the US first. Recently, there was one exception, some big holiday blockbuster opened in Japan as I recall about a day before the US for I forget the reason.

Oh yes, New newspaper articles belong on the News topic, #165. OK?

Sorry Karen. Since it was a rehash of an old article, I didn't think it qualified... but I guess the news that it's opening April 3 does make it so - will post there from now on. Will answer your question on 165...

Okie doke (lots of winkies)

(Karen) some big holiday blockbuster opened in Japan as I recall about a day before the US for I forget the reason. That's alright that you forgot, the director said he didn't really know or understand the reasoning for it either. ;-) Love the Firthamatics, LOL. Maybe if I'd studied that instead of geometry and algebra, I'd have done much better. ;-)

I was a math major. Little did I know that I could have found my math homework much more enjoyable if I'd taken the Firthamatics elective!

Just returned from romantic minibreak to Bath for the weekend =) and had full Austen experience - went to the small Jane Austen Centre (which I actually found disappointing except for the fact that the gift shop had the P&P soundtrack on repeat!), had the Jane Austen cream tea at Sally Lunn's, and then the COOLEST thing was stopping in Lacock a.k.a. Meryton on the way back to London. Sat in the Red Lion. Took lots of photos. Went to the Abbey (also used for Hogwarts). If you ever get a chance to go, don't miss it!

Thank you for sharing, EmmaB. Makes a girl dream away on a grey monday morning.

Agree about Lacock... absolutely charming. The main street remains the same. If you stop and chat with some of the shop keepers, they'll be happy to relate about the filming of P&P. The JA home in Chawton is better than the Bath museum. Besides it's nr. Winchester;-) Someday I want to get to Pemberley. *hint, hint* to some members of this board who have promised to drive there....

That picture I posted earlier on the 165 section and this one from my picture of the day remind me how beautiful his hands are:

*sigh* Thanks Murph, I needed that.

Thank you Murph! I was going to comment on his hands earlier (when you posted the picture on 165), but got sidetracked at work...now, with this picture, I feel I can't sit quietly by...Gah! Loving the curls on the forehead as well...oh! And did I mention the dimples! Love those too! And wearing black, no less! I hope the drool doesn't short out my keyboard... ;-)

Thank you for the lovely pictures, Murph. They are my all time favourites. I actually have this one "hidden" at work, so I can take a peek, whenever it gets hard to cope with real world (or it has been to long since my last viewing, let's say half an hour or so ;-))

Sorry to post twice, but I just got inspired by the top 10 lines on Ods and Ends. Isn't it time we had our own little poll of favourite/most used lines from ODB-movies? I'll start with a few, that springs to mind: Not as such! Words fail me! I know, I know! He is the full axminster! I shall conquer this, I shall! Bet you anything, you like! I know nothing! If I'm being to silly, just ignore this

I'll bite Annette... On foot? Nono, the green one A pig? They want me to defend a pig? I�d pay extra! You have said quite enough, Madam... I forgot to kiss you goodbye, do you mind? I�ve been laboring under a misapprehension.. I could go on and on.

All of the above and... grunt in the doorway (BJD) Eighteen years, eighteen...f---ing years (FP) Yes, here (Nostromo) So it would seem, and I like you just as you are (BJD)...can't forget that one I have to vary the answers (FP) Wot? (P&P) Oh I shall be thinking of this all day.

Okay, I'll play (and Beedee and Annette, you've already picked out some of my favorites!). "You have employed your time much better. No one admitted to the privilege of hearing you, can think anything wanting. We neither of us perform to strangers." "It was your eyes. No, your lips." "In vain I have struggled." "Uxuriousness. That's my favorite kind of love. Excessive love of one's wife" "What I'm trying to say, very inarticulately, is that I like you, very much, just as you are." "I'm the school joke. I quite realize that. But I am, don't you think, a respected joke?" And finally, "Would you PLEASE, please, please, please just f**king, F**K OFF! You have arrived at the worst sixty seconds of my life and I REALLY don't want to see you."

Oh! Linda! Just saw your list! Love the grunt in the doorway (and the two FP quotes)!

To add to all the above, four from FP (which is full of favorites) It's not the smoking, Steve, it's the crapness. I knew it, I knew it! You shagged the football hooligan! Do I look like the sort of man who'd have a Bread album? Paul, are you a complete fool?

Love those too! This has been a fun but not dangerous distraction from the heavy lifting here at work. Thanks again Annette.

You're welcome. I enjoy it as much as the rest of you. But - to pick only 10. It's gonna be a hard one to call ;-)

Good idea, Annette! Wow, most of my favorites are already here.

Wot? Is no one going to mention Say my name? A few more of my favorites: I've gone quite weak in the knees. Be still, my beating heart! Moxie's "I mean really.." Paul, you need medical attention. You've got some kind of dicease that turns people into miserable bastards. Alright, no more football. I have to vary the answers. A, I hate her, B, she hates me, and C, what's the point of it all... I also love the way he says the word Yes in all of his films.

(Hen) I also love the way he says the word Yes.. LOL Hen, perhaps a focus for further study!

Please pardon my spelling. I do know how to spell disease. Thinking about Mr. Ashworth got me quite flustered, as usual.

Hen, I can't believe I forgot "Say my name"! Another word we've found in almost every film is "Wot?"

Love all the quotes previously mentioned... Also... "that shows what you know about it" "good god,that dog smiled at me" "that'll do me, wife and kid" "I am not afraid of you" and all the non verbal dialogue relayed with just a look...

I don't know about the rest of you, but reading all these favourite quotes, makes me say like Meg Ryan in "When Harry met Sally", the cafe-scene; Yes, yes, yes ..... I'm not saying it out loud, off course ;-) If it was possible to pick a quote as a keepsake, mine would have to be: I have to vary the answers. That is the story of my life, trying to keep this "fling" a secret. Enough, enough (another quote;-)) Here is a link to a bbc-page with a small mentioning of Colin. Nothing new or anything. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/news/liquidnews/team/steph.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/news/liquidnews/team/steph.shtml

(Maria)and all the non verbal dialogue relayed with just a look... My thought exacty! Had a little Darcy fix last night (probably the result of day time "best lines" rumminations) and thought about my favorite non-verbal moments like the billiards room "Look" in P&P.

(Beedee)Had a little Darcy fix last night (probably the result of day time "best lines" rumminations) and thought about my favorite non-verbal moments like the billiards room "Look" in P&P. Also love the tiny little smile and slight turn of his head he gives Bingley at the first dance showing his soft spot for his friend. And the way his face changes at the restaurant in FP when Sarah tells him she does'nt know what she wants to do yet.. On and on....

(MariaT) On and on.... And on....the way his expression changes when he first sees Elizabeth walk into the room at the Netherfeld Ball. And the look on his face as he walks, late at night, down the hall at Pemberley with the two dogs (BTW, how is it the candle doesn't go out??). Then the look as he stands by the mantel remembering Lizzy. And the look, in FP, as he sits, surrounded by pizza boxes, after Sarah has left him. And the look, he gives Bridget while he is being interviewed by her....and....

Oh, I'll go again since I only listed one - The whole beautiful silent bath and window scene in P&P and.....

Karen, just saw the new picture on the GWAPE-gallery. Beautiful. I can't wait to see more from this movie. I know, this is current, but I didn't want to start posting on the brand-new topic with no news or anything. About the un-said. You are perfectly right. I'm afraid to have startet an avalanche, but - boy, am I enjoying the ride;-) One more unsaid: the devastatet look in TEP and ........

...and the whole kitchen scene in BJD, ...and many, many scenes and looks from SLOW...when he speaks French, facts of life scene with Sammy, ...and the look of him in the dinner scene from MLSF...and OH sigh. Just everything he's ever done, any line he's ever uttered, every look, smile, and what have you. Mortgage, Wife, Kid, Cool! And yes, yes, yes...I have to post this here because I don't want to double post over on the other CF current topic, but I finally caught the trailer. Yahoo. Am signing off before I catch heck from the boss...;-)

(Beedee) The whole beautiful silent bath and window scene in P&P and..... This is one of my favorites too as well as the look on his "boyish and must softer face" when he's talking to Lizzy with his wet shirt on. Also love the look on his face in LE when he and the juggler are in the dinning car on the train, turn and look at the departing woman, and then look at each other. Love it.

(FanPam) Also love the look on his face in LE when he and the juggler are in the dinning car on the train, turn and look at the departing woman, and then look at each other. Love it. LE is just FULL of looks! I just recently rewatched it and love the look on his face as Nonnie flirts with him while he is sitting in the theater! Very funny! And on the ferris wheel! Grrr....dimples. And when he first sees Nancy again after the war breaks out...

(Tress)LE is just FULL of looks! Sure is! I am facinated by many of them, especially when he is in stage costume and the make-up accentuating those amazing eyes.

(Tress)LE is just FULL of looks! I just recently rewatched it and love the look on his face as Nonnie flirts with him while he is sitting in the theater! Very funny! Yes, LE is excellent for looks and those voice overs kill me. But that look that you mention in the theater with Nonnie is one of my favorites. He looks so innoncent yet so smug...knowing that he's got what she wants. *major sigh*

I thought he looked like something was happening... down south, if you catch my drift.

(Rika)..down south, if you catch my drift I have never seen LE, but I'm pretty sure I'm with you ;-) (I have to wait a long time for this one, but it sounds as if it is worth waiting for).

I love LE. I got it for my birthday last year, and had intended to watch it a little bit at a time (it's about seven hours long). But once I started I just couldn't stop. He's in almost every scene, plus he's the narrator (complete with a Yorkshire accent). He's very young - was 26 or so when he made it, but looks much younger than that. And it's an interesting story, too, though there's a rather lurid section of it that I thought went over the top. He also winds up kissing most of the female cast members. Oh - and there's a scene where he gets tickled and he giggles, and it always cracks me up because the giggle is a bit high-pitched. V. cute.

Do I look like the sort of man who'd have a Bread album? (Kathyf) Hi, have just been glancing after a long absence and saw the above quote. Am probably way past this discussion now, but this is one of my favourite quotes also. We recently had a garage sale (Australian talk) and my DH was clearing our, very reluctantly, some old albums to sell - one of which was "The Best of Bread". Of course I immediately launched into the FP quote above. Funnily enough, someone did buy the record - a man, and I had to refrain from again repeating the phrase as he handed over his money. Felt sorry for him that he was such an (imaginary) object of derision.

(Rika) Oh - and there's a scene where he gets tickled and he giggles, and it always cracks me up because the giggle is a bit high-pitched. V. cute. I love that bit! Isn't that when Julie reaches over and either pinches or bites him (and he 'yelps' as well...v.v. funny)? It is shot in the reflection of a picture hanging on the wall....? (annea)...my DH was clearing our, very reluctantly, some old albums to sell - one of which was "The Best of Bread". LOL...so what your saying is that your DH is the sort of man to own a Bread album?? ;-)

(Rika) I thought he looked like something was happening... down south, if you catch my drift. (pervy alter ego talking) I'd like to catch your drift..You would'nt happen to have a photo that illustrates?? (annea)...my DH was clearing our, very reluctantly, some old albums to sell - one of which was "The Best of Bread". (Tress) LOL...so what your saying is that your DH is the sort of man to own a Bread album?? ;-) Cute Tress..

(Tress) I love that bit! Isn't that when Julie reaches over and either pinches or bites him (and he 'yelps' as well...v.v. funny)? It is shot in the reflection of a picture hanging on the wall....? Exactly. And you hear the yelping/giggling both at the start and the end of the scene. His voice is usually so deep and mature, so the contrast always cracks me up. I wondered if she ad libbed whatever she did to him and that was his unrehearsed reaction. (me) I thought he looked like something was happening... down south, if you catch my drift. (Maria)(pervy alter ego talking) I'd like to catch your drift..You would'nt happen to have a photo that illustrates?? The scene is shot in tight close-up on his face, so I was talking about my interpretation of the look on his face, not of any other evidence in the frame. But here goes: I'm not sure that a capture can pick up the little nuances you see in the actual scene, though. In fact, I was going to pull some captures from the "favorite looks" that people mentioned, but often the power is in the subtle little things that happen during the look, and one photo can't do that justice.

(Rika) I wondered if she ad libbed whatever she did to him and that was his unrehearsed reaction. I thought this as well...if it wasn't ad libbed, actually scripted, then it was the best piece of acting ever done. He seemed genuinely surprised! And thanks for the picture Rika! So funny! ODB did such a great job in LE. His character is so 'contained' and he does so much of his acting with just facial expressions (especially his eyes)!

(Tress)His character is so 'contained' and he does so much of his acting with just facial expressions (especially his eyes)! I much agree and IMHO found that "containment" even more impressive when he was acting opposite Olivier.

Thank you Rika!! (Rika) so I was talking about my interpretation of the look on his face, not of any other evidence in the frame LOL!! If there had been any other evidence I am sure it would have made many appearances here before!!

(MariaT) LOL!! If there had been any other evidence I am sure it would have made many appearances here before!! Oh, I don't know! I remember there was a time, just a little while back, where Rika 'caught' a moment from P&P that I had not noticed before (capture of Darcy running to catch up to Lizzy at Pemberley). There are hidden treasures that pop-up all the time!! ;-)

(Tress) There are hidden treasures that pop-up all the time!! ;-) LOL!! You are killing me...

(Tress) There are hidden treasures that pop-up all the time!! ;-) Naughty girl. You are always posting what I'm thinking;-)Pleasant thoughts, indeed.

(Annette) (I have to wait a long time for this one, but it sounds as if it is worth waiting for). Believe me Annette the wait is well worth it. This is one of my absolute favorites. I know all the lyrics to the songs I've watched it so much. Word's can't describe him. Absolutely delectable, good storyline and great cast. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. (Linda) Pleasant thoughts, indeed. I agree Linda, the most pleasant of thoughts indeed.

My favorite comedy scenes with Colin: FP...Though not a fav movie of mine...has a great scene when he's interviewing the school board for the new job. TIOBE..several Interview with Lady Bracknell as a potential suitor with Gwendolyn. The cigarette case scene at the theatre with Algie. BJD...When he first meets Bridget in the reindeer "jumper". MLSF...explaining the facts of life to Fraser. He's brilliant doing 'deadpan'

(Evelyn)He's brilliant doing 'deadpan' I agree! I'll second all of your comedy scenes. When you say comedy, I have to bring out Relative Values. Every scene with Sophie Thompson are hilarious (dutch curage, week at the knees ...) There are some good ones in TA too: There must be priests in hell, and when the daughter tries to seduce him in the hall and he says Oh shit.

Oh fun! Those are good. I like HOTPIG v. much. The scene and dialog in the bath with the priest and nekkid women. The scene when he laughs out loud in cort when pic was accused of eating human flesh on Friday. Sissy fight is v. funny

that's *court* as you probaly guessed.

Some of my favorite comedy scenes with CF: FP: Steve and Paul watching the final. "It's my flat" "Yeah, well try and get me out." "Sisters don't have seasons" scene and the Bread album scene! FP has many funny moments for me! Hard to pick just a few. TIOBE: Also like the Lady Bracknell interview. Proposal scene with Gwendolyn. "We have to talk, you have to leave" scene with Algy. BJD: Blue soup scene. "Did I really swim around naked in your paddling pool?" "Yes. You were four and I was eight" "Bit pervy really" "Yes. I like to think so" Love how he delivers those lines! SIL: His 'proposal' scene with Viola. "It was your eyes..." Lord Wessex is so beautifully icky!

(Evelyn)MLSF...explaining the facts of life to Fraser. One of my all time favorites. I agree, Annette. Just about all of his scenes in RV. Here's looking at you kid. The scene in the restaurant in FP... it was just a one off. Explaining the facts of life to Sammy in SLOW...love his facial expressions in that. I just got back from the weekend, and you guys caught me off guard. I'll be back later after a good think.

(Tress) There are hidden treasures that pop-up all the time!! ;-) I have noticed a scene in DQ (which I couldn't comment on in the film discussion - as that was serious) which holds some potential. Take a look at the scene where Lucy asks "Donovan, who is Daniel Quinn?"

(Evelyn) He's brilliant doing 'deadpan' Yes, he is. And I don't think he gets nearly enough credit for it. That's not as easy as some people think. Interview with Lady Bracknell as a potential suitor with Gwendolyn. I love his facial expression when he's trying to decide if he knows everything or nothing - and then afterwards, when he finds out he made the right choice. Very subtle, but very effective. Also, I never failed to laugh when he started to describe the handbag (though I was usually the only one in the theater laughing). (LindaK) Here's looking at you kid. LOVE him there. There are parts of RV where I can't decide if he's too broad, or if he's supposed to be that way, but in that scene I think he's absolutely perfect.

(Tress) Lord Wessex is so beautifully icky! Icky, but wonderful! There's a point where he does this little wiggle thing when he bows to Viola, and I just want to smack him, he's being so smarmy; makes me laugh every time I see it! (Rika) Also, I never failed to laugh when he started to describe the handbag (though I was usually the only one in the theater laughing) The only one? :( Thankfully, I was in a theater of people who were ready for a good time; I remember several people laughed along with me at the handbag description.

(Rika) Also, I never failed to laugh when he started to describe the handbag (though I was usually the only one in the theater laughing). (moonstar) I remember several people laughed along with me at the handbag description. The DH laughed out loud at this bit! I was surprised! We both thought this scene was very funny (although, I had seen the film about five times prior to the DHs first viewing and knew it was coming up). I love ODB's hands in that scene....as he opens the 'invisible' bag to demostrate! Cracks me up!

(Tress) I love ODB's hands in that scene....as he opens the 'invisible' bag to demostrate! Cracks me up! Exactly. It's the hands - along with his earnest (no pun intended, but it works, doesn't it?) attempt to describe the handbag accurately. It's a great little piece of subtle comedy that also says a lot about the character. He's so caught up in the handbag, because it's his only link to his family, that he doesn't realize that its physical features are utterly irrelevant. I'd love to know if the business with the hands was his, or if OP suggested it.

Rika, Tress; I'm all with you in the "handbag-business". I remembered one more funny scene from SLOW; When he is sitting on the wall with Sammy/Sweet Potato and they are having a shoot-out. The way he dies and falls gets me every time.

YES! I can't believe I didn't think of that. That little grunt, and then he just pitches off backwards. SLOW is another movie with some fun deadpan stuff.

More deadpan stuff... BJD...the launch party, when Bridget describes Perpetua and Mark with thoughtful details...When it's Mark's turn and he describes Briget as playing naked in his paddling pool. I love the subtle glint in his eyes as he takes a sip of his drink. He's sparring with her, and its caught her very off-guard.

yet more deadpan stuff.. SLOW..the conversation with Nimia in her office about the rules of employment. "those are the rules.....for now." Hummmmmmmmmm

And... SLOW........telling Sam, "Real men just lop the handles off altogether." (Linda) I love the subtle glint in his eyes as he takes a sip of his drink. He's sparring with her Love this too....a "gotcha"!

I have a Netflix subscription, and every now & then I'll do a "Colin Firth" search to see if they've added Lost Empires to their catalog. No luck on this morning's search, but I was amused to see that HS & WAGW are to be added when released, and they already have *viewer ratings*, no less! In case you're wondering, they have HS as a 2003 DVD release, the DVD cover shown is the "Titanic" shot, and from five ratings an average of three out of five stars. As for WAGW, they also have it as a 2003 DVD release, the DVD cover shown is the much-seen shot of AB & the guards, and from eleven ratings an average of 4.1 stars! (*giggles*) Okay, 'fess up; who's been pumping up the ratings on a film that hasn't even been screened yet?

(moonstar)Okay, 'fess up; who's been pumping up the ratings on a film that hasn't even been screened yet? LOL, let's see what we can do for the ratings for HS. Thanks for the Netflix info. Keep us posted.

Help me! I'm trying to sum up the favourite lines and add, which movie they come from. But - MariaT postet this one "I am not afraid of you" and I know I've heard it, but I just can't remember where. Would someone please help me?

(Annette) I'm trying to sum up the favourite lines and add, which movie they come from. But - MariaT postet this one "I am not afraid of you" and I know I've heard it, but I just can't remember where. Would someone please help me? Annette, it is from P&P. At Rosings when Lizzy is sitting with Col. Fitzwilliam at the pianoforte. She is teasing Mr. Darcy... "Indeed, Mr. Darcy, it is very ungenerous....and very impolitic too -- for it provokes me to retaliate, and say such things as will shock your relations to hear." "I am not afraid of you."

That's it! Thank you. Off course I know it. I haven't had my P&P dvd available for about 2 months, so I'm missing out on my weekly quota :-) I'll get back to organizing the quotes (my DH is out, so I try to make the most of my "free" time in front of the computer ;-))

I have now summed the quotes. About the vote; there�s been all these b***** hints and stuff, but has there actually ever been any known fiddling with the votes? (big winkie and hint at the lates poll for film-discussion;-)) I suggest, that we all get to pick 10 quotes. The 10, that get�s the most votes, wins. If any qoutes gets the same number of votes, they will be placed alongside eachother, eliminating the next numbers in line (am I making myself clear, or have I really messed up this time?) The maine reason for this pole is an excuse to get Rika to post some captures, but please do not let this influence your voting (as if anything I say could influence you in any way;-)). Another reason is to distract some of us, who won�t be able to see WAGW next week (or the next year for that matter). Sorry about the fretting, here are the quotes: 1. AC I'm the school joke. I quite realize that. But I am, don't you think, a respected joke? 2. BJD Enough, enough 3. BJD grunt in the doorway 4. BJD I forgot to kiss you goodbye, do you mind? 5. BJD I like you just as you are 6. BJD I�ve been laboring under a misapprehension.. 7. BJD Not as such! 8. BJD So it would seem 9. BJD What I'm trying to say, very inarticulately, is that I like you, very much, just as you are 10. FP A, I hate her, B, she hates me, and C, what's the point of it all... 11. FP Alright, no more football. 12. FP Bet you anything, you like! 13. FP Do I look like the sort of man who'd have a Bread album? 14. FP Do I look like the sort of man who'd have a Bread album? 15. FP Eighteen years, eighteen...f---ing years 16. FP He is the full axminster! 17. FP I have to vary the answers 18. FP I have to vary the answers. 19. FP I knew it, I knew it! You shagged the football hooligan! 20. FP I know, I know! 21. FP I�d pay extra! 22. FP it was just a one off. 23. FP It's not the smoking, Steve, it's the crapness. 24. FP Mortgage, Wife, Kid, Cool! 25. FP Paul, are you a complete fool? 26. FP Paul, you need medical attention. You've got some kind of dicease that turns people into miserable bastards. 27. FP that shows what you know about it 28. FP that'll do me, wife and kid 29. FP Words fail me! 30. FP Would you PLEASE, please, please, please just f**king, F**K OFF! You have arrived at the worst sixty seconds of my life and I REALLY don't want to see you 31. Nostromo Yes, here 32. P&P I am not afraid of you 33. P&P I shall conquer this, I shall! 34. P&P In vain I have struggled 35. P&P Nono, the green one 36. P&P On foot? 37. P&P Wot? 38. P&P Wot? 39. P&P You have employed your time much better. No one admitted to the privilege of hearing you, can think anything wanting. We neither of us perform to strangers 40. P&P You have said quite enough, Madam... 41. RV Be still, my beating heart! 42. RV I've gone quite weak in the knees 43. RV Moxie's "I mean really.." 44. SIL It was your eyes. No, your lips 45. SLOW Say my name? 46. TA A pig? They want me to defend a pig? 47. TA good god,that dog smiled at me 48. TEP Uxuriousness. That's my favorite kind of love. Excessive love of one's wife 49. TIOBE I know nothing! 50. Yes

Ooops, I seem to have listet WOT twice. I know, it's good, but nevertheless it should only have one entering. The same goes for the Bread-album guy and vary the answers. Sorry!

(Annette) Ooops, I seem to have listet WOT twice. I know, it's good, but nevertheless it should only have one entering No, no....you can never have too much of a good thing. ;-)

Just for you Annette...... 1) #50 - Yes 2) #34 - In vain I have struggled 3) #4 - I forgot to kiss you... 4) #45 - Say my name 5) #30 - Would you PEASE, please....... 6) #13 - Do I look like the sort of a man.... 7) #39 - You have employed your time much better.... 8) #9 - What I'm trying to say..... 9) #32 - I am not afraid of you 10)#37 - WOT?.......in just about everything This was a very hard one to call!

These were a very hard ten to call 3, 13, 15, 17, 21, 22, 24, 31,45,46 thanks Annette...just thinking about these makes me want to go and watch each and every one, again.

Oh, I love a poll. It's almost impossible to narrow it down to 10, but for you, Annette, I'll do it. 4, 8, 9, 10, 17, 21, 33, 36, 37, 45 Let's hope this inspires Rika to illustrate our top ten list. Thanks for a great idea, Annette.

Got a bit busy today, but I have been thinking about this: 1, 4, 7, 15, 17, 23, 30, 32, 34, 36...

ARRGGG! I hate this...got to whittle 3 away... OK, now one more... Got it...(Woohoo, got to put the grunt back when I realized 9 also covers 5...) 3, 4, 9, 31, 32, 35, 36, 38, 39, 45 Thanks Annette, this was fun!

Tough choice, considering I haven't seen all the lines mentioned, but (3 4 7 9 15 21 33 36 39 49) get my vote.

Don't care for this weeding out process... 9, 10, 12, 17, 21, 23, 27, 33, 43, 47 If you asked me tomorrow, I'd probably answer differently...

We anyway have to vary the answers.

(KJArt) If you asked me tomorrow, I'd probably answer differently... You are so right...and I feel disloyal eliminating ANY of them but for right now, today... 3,4,8,22,27,30,32,34,36,45

closing

...a pig, they want me to defend a pig? Here is a *good* list too... If this doesn't work as a link, please just cut and paste since I'm very busy and important.....(so why do I have time to find this?......my lunch break) http://www.drury.edu/multinl/story.cfm?ID=5947&NLID=229

Good job Annette. Here are my choices: 4, 8, 15, 25, 33, 37, 42, 47, 49, 50. Thank you.

Here are mine: 3,5,7,8,9,15,33,36,37,45 (Hen) Let's hope this inspires Rika to illustrate our top ten list. Thanks for a great idea, Annette. Only if y'all are very patient. I'm buried at the moment and am likely to have to spend the next couple of weeks playing catch-up (but for a fun reason - the World Figure Skating Championships are in town, and I bought an All-Events Ticket. When I'm not at school, I'm at the competition). We'll have to see, anyway - sometimes there's not that distinctive of a facial expression to go with a line of dialogue.

Come forward, ladies, there is still time to place your votes! Another matter: Apparently the commentary track with Oliver Parker is not on the danish TIOBE dvd. Would you please tell me, if this is reason enough to wait another 5 months for the dvd (in your oppinion, off course)?

Someone sent me this older article and I thought it was cute. It was originally published for Valentines's Day in the San Diego Union-Tribune by Karla Peterson (you'll recall her interview during the TIOBE promotion; it's in the archives and she wrote me about it). Lights, camera, attraction; It�s a celebrity crush In honor of Valentine�s Day, this one goes out to the ones we love. The ones we crave. The ones who have no idea that we exist. And how could they? They are somebodies and we are nobodies, and between us lies the lonesome one-way street of the celebrity crush. Of all the pranks Cupid inflicts on helpless humans, falling hard for a star is the most humiliating. One minute, you are a reasonable person, minding your own boring business. The next, you are a beady-eyed lunatic devoting time, money and precious Internet resources to someone who will never acknowledge your presence, much less return your insane affections. If you have ever haunted eBay for rare Erik Estrada photos, or celebrated David Duchovny�s birthday as if it were your own, then you are familiar with the hypnotic power of the celebrity crush. And you will not be surprised to hear that mine started with a fever. This time last year, my husband was out of town and I had the flu. Out of sympathy for an ailing working mother, a friend dropped off her VHS copy of the 1995 �Pride and Prejudice� miniseries. She figured that whatever TheraFlu and chicken soup couldn�t cure, a six part BBC costume drama probably could. She was right. And so very wrong. For hour after hour, tape after rewound tape, the love affair between the imperious Mr. Darcy and the delicious Elizabeth Bennett bloomed before my glassy eyes like a tidy oasis. It was sumptuous, smart and sexy, and I watched the whole six-hour saga from beginning to end. Three times. And when the flu bug finally flew the coop, I emerged from my sic bed with an obliterating crush on Colin Firth, the dreamy British actor who played the brooding Mr. Darcy. In less than a week, I went from being vaguely aware of him (He was the guy in �Bridget Jones�s Diary� who was not Hugh Grant, right?) to being wildly obsessed with his life and his career. Driven by a bewildering hormonal rush not felt since ninth grade, I had to feed the craving on an alarmingly regular basis. Fortunately, there were a million ways to keep the pathology alive. Thanks to the Internet Movie Database, I was able to view Firth�s long and wildly varied filmography. Thanks to Amazon.com, I could buy whatever I couldn�t rent from my Anglophile friends at Kensington Video. An with the help of the TVNow Web site, I always knew which obscure Firth film was playing on HBO Signature at any given time. Then I found the fan sites. Firthfrenzy.com. Friends of Firth. �Pride and Prejudice� Paradise. The Colin-y Sites dedicated to his stage work. Sites that archived pretty much every article ever written about him. Sites like the pop-culture obsessed FameTracker.com, where savvy Web-page editors like Tara Ariano keep an eye on lunatics like me. �Celebrity crushes are very common. I�m not surprised by anyone any more,� Ariano said reassuringly form her Toronto office. �If someone is in the public eye enough to be a celebrity, they generally have enough charisma that someone is going to be attracted to him or her. And there are so many entertainment products now, that celebrity crushes can be fed very easily.� Can they ever. On the FameTracker forums, like-minded fans passionately discuss Billy Corgan�s shaved head, Sarah Michelle Gellar�s weight and Kylie Minogue�s underpants. On the Colin Firth forum, my insane sisters sigh over Pride and Prejudice,� give multiple thumbs� up to video-store treasures like 1988�s quirky �Apartment Zero,� and express collective anxiety over the upcoming teen-comedy �What a Girl Wants.� Whose resemblance to �The Princess Diaries� makes us all kind of twitchy. �When my roommate and I saw the trailer, we just sat there, stunned,� one poster writes. �And I think at the same time we just said, �Ohhh�.Colin�� What we don�t discuss is why we devote so much time and psychic energy to someone we don�t know and have no real hope of meeting. Isn�t life too short for follies like this? �Why do anything?� Ariano says. �Why collect stamps? If it�s fun to put pictures of pretty boys up in your cubicle, why not? I think most celebrity crushes are harmless. It�s something fun to occupy your time. It�s like a little hobby, coming up with harmless, generally PG-rated fantasies of what would happen if you met your live object.� A few months after Firth became my love object, I actually met him. We sat next to each other on a couch in the lobby of the Four Seasons Hotel in Beverly Hills, where I interviewed him about his role in �The Importance Of Being Earnest.� He was handsome, smart and quotable. He had also been ground to a nub by the movie-promotion machine. So while I was one life regression away from writing �Mrs. Colin Firth� in the margins of my geometry homework, he just wanted to wrap up his media duties and go home. I could not have made less of an impression on him if I had stayed in the parking garage. I should have been heartbroken, but frankly, I was grateful for the reality check. As I drove back to San Diego, I realized that the man of my dreams was no the lanky actor who scuttled out of the Four Seasons lobby as if his sneakers were on fire. In fact, the man of my dreams was at home, waiting patiently for me to get over this Colin Firth guy so I could get back to him. �He really is something special,� I thought, remembering my first love with a smile. And if the would just let him out of that little video box, I�m sure Mr. Darcy would say the same thing about me.

Cute article. It's just a job; just like hers.

Amen! But I really try to avoid reality checks;-) Great article, Karen. Thank you.

(article) So while I was one life regression away from writing �Mrs. Colin Firth� in the margins of my geometry homework, he just wanted to wrap up his media duties and go home. I could not have made less of an impression on him if I had stayed in the parking garage. LOL! If I ever do meet ODB, this is how I see it unfolding! Thanks Karen....very funny! And Linda, I've been boucning those reality checks for years! ;-)

(article)Driven by a bewildering hormonal rush not felt since ninth grade, I had to feed the craving on an alarmingly regular basis. Story of my life! But - as you, Linda and Tress, no reality checks for me;-) Thank you for the article, Karen.

Fortunately, there were a million ways to keep the pathology alive. Ain't it the truth!

�He really is something special,� Amen sisters. Thanks for the really cute article Karen.

My Top Ten: 3,4,17,27,30,31,32,34,36,39 Ask me tomorrow, and I'd probably think of others, though!

It isn't easier to choose 10 if you wait! If I could only remember the right phrase, I would quote Edward, jumping into the lake. But - alas and alack - I cannot. I can't keep putting it up. I shall conquer this, I shall, so here are my choices: 8, 10, 12, 17, 29, 34, 37, 41, 44, 45 If only I could pick 10 from each movie, that would do me! If it is allright by you, we will keep open for new to vote until Rika get's over her "skating-thing" and return to more sensible matters ;-)

Exact time might be an iffy thing, but I've got it at right at 2 hr 49 mins before *Karen gets rid of that obscene picture on the front page!*

(I trust she is ready...our ability to hold out might be tested!)

Sadly, it's past midnight (here, anyway) and it's still there. The impostor was on Letterman tonight too. Ack.

I'm starting to wonder whether the picture was (is) a joke. It is midmorning here - We'll have to burn some candles or something.

Karen, I'll do almost anything to get "the real CF" back. I'll try posting a wee flower as persuation;-)

Aarg! The anti-colin is still there! In the anti-wet shirt.

Karen, Isn't it the morning of the 2nd in the US? Please, please, please remove the imposter CF and replace him with ODB asap!!!

Yes, it's morning here, Janet. I don't know what happened to the boss. PLease, Please, Please will someone get that @#$%$#@ imposter off the front page. Thank you.

Help, fast! Someone in the mid-west call 911!! Karen is certainly *lying on floor being eaten by large dogs*! There can be no other explaination.

Thank you so much, Karen - my favorite teacher. About the driving and drooling - well it's hard not to, when you've got the soundtrack from FP in your car;-)

Thank you Karen! Those dimples are deadly! Hope the 'other' CF found a better home!

Ooooh yes!! The *football hooligan*! Thank you, thank you!

Oh I just love Paul. Thank you, Karen. Thrilled to see that the other CF has been booted off. I drool and drive all the time... Yes, Annette, especially with the FP soundtrack.

Thank you so much, Karen. Mr. Ashworth is looking v. delectable and puts that Irish imposter to shame. The dimples...oh, my! Your little April Fool's experiment certainly woke everybody up. Karen, you are the best!

It was only April Fools Day. Can we not appreciate a little humor without the hysteria? You'll know I'm seriously disgusted with the first Colin when my Pepperoni Pizza Boy's pic goes back up. ;-)

Thanks for the great pic of Paul Karen.

(Karen)Can we not appreciate a little humor without the hysteria? Indeed we can. I think our responses are part of the game ;-)

( Karen)Can we not appreciate a little humor without the hysteria? Indeed we can. I think our responses are part of the game ;-) LOL, my thoughts exactly! It was fun sharing in the hysteria this morning and gasping at the lovely driver. Thanks for the tease Karen.

I think I'll post my favorite lines before I change them again: 4, 9, 13, 15, 17, 21, 23, 34, 37, 45 Thanks, Karen, for adorable smiling Paul Ashworth! It made my day.

(Karen)Can we not appreciate a little humor without the hysteria? Indeed we can. I think our responses are part of the game ;-) Exactly - well said.

I don't know if this means I need to get a life, but, the other day I discovered I had a Hidden Talent . . . I was sitting in the bus, thinking (as one does) of ODB and going to see WAGW when some little thought made me smile. And as I smiled, I had a clear mental image of the same smile on his face. I thought this was pretty good, so I experimented (furtively) with other facial expressions. It worked! I could imagine all sorts of smiles and frowns and looks! I wondered if this meant I had seen too much of him on screen, but then I thought, "Naaa - too much is never enough!" It certainly made the bus trip fly! Am I weird/obsessed/a sad case?

Am I weird/obsessed/a sad case? no, I think you`re a typical ODB fan ;)

(Sue)Am I weird/obsessed/a sad case? I agree with odessa; you're just like the rest of us. What I tend to do most, is find myself walking, long strides etc. you know, just like ... When I become aware of what I'm doing, I go back to a more "ladylike-kind-of" walking. (this coming from someone rather short, not exactly slim, not twenty anymore. So you see, much better smile ;-))

(Sue)Am I weird/obsessed/a sad case? (Annette)I agree with odessa; you're just like the rest of us. How about pursing your lips together, like in the doorway scene of BJD? Been there, done that;-)

Karen's AFG photo of Paul A. popping up every time I stopped by here drove me crazy (and made me smile) so I *had* to watch FP again last night. I'm a newbie so this must have been said before, but our obsession for CF seems so like Paul's for Arsenal! Reading the posts on Spoilers and Colin Firth topics shows we too love and hate (if not him then some choices he makes) at the same time! If CF is in s**t then life is s**t;-) Like Paul, I'm sure most of us will be there for the victory........when it comes.

(Beedee) Like Paul, I'm sure most of us will be there for the victory........when it comes. LOL....let's hope it's not 'eighteen years....eighteen f**king years!' Good analogy!

Great analogies ladies. Let's hope not eighteen f**king years!

(Beedee) our obsession for CF seems so like Paul's for Arsenal! I never thought about it that way, but you are so right! Would Paul endure Miramax marketing, L'ium, potted palms, a teen comedy for his beloved Arsenal? Absolutely! What a weekend! Not only did I see WAGW, but AZ came in from Netflix, and with our new X-box I was actually able to watch it (old DVD player refused to play AZ; very distressing)! Talk about night and day films...

(Beedee) our obsession for CF seems so like Paul's for Arsenal! (Moonstar)I never thought about it that way, but you are so right! Would Paul endure Miramax marketing, L'ium, potted palms, a teen comedy for his beloved Arsenal? Absolutely! It's funny, I have tried to explain the fascination to my DH in this manner but as he is not a sports fan, it did'nt take. Have decided I will work the "It is like a phenomenal wine, and not everyone "gets" it or tries it but to those that do it is breathtaking" angle as wine is a language he understands. Wish me luck...;-)

(Beedee) our obsession for CF seems so like Paul's for Arsenal! (Moonstar)I never thought about it that way, but you are so right! Would Paul endure Miramax marketing, L'ium, potted palms, a teen comedy for his beloved Arsenal? Absolutely! LOL, very nice analogy (is that a word?). (MariaT)Wish me luck...;-) Good luck, Maria! My dh *is* a sportsfan, but I won't even try to explaine "the state I'm in". He wouldn't get it anyway. I'll stick to my "movies-in-general freak". That is something, he can relate to.

Sorry to post twice, but just came across this old journal from September 2002. She writes quite funny, and have some bits, that I particularly like: Hugh Grant as Daniel Cleaver is fine too, but I can't really see him as some sex god. Oh, by the way, did anyone notice the Pemberley pun there? It's in the scene where Bridget first turns up in the Kafka's Motorbike book launch party. Look at the wall in the scene and you can see the Pemberley sign hanging there, all nice and green. Here is the link: http://blueskies.sunflower-secrets.net/archives/00000034.html

Thanks, Annette! A little scary that she thought CF was in his 40's when he made P&P.... He was, what, 34 then? But she's probably young, and young people often can't tell 30-somethings and 40-somethings apart. One of my students guessed that I was about 18 years younger than I am - and while I may or may not look my age, I DEFINITELY don't look as young as she thought.

Todays result of googling http://www.hellomagazine.com/vote/mostattractiveman/?mensaje= To vote or not to vote, that is the question! Especially with the article from Fameaudit in mind ;-) Okay, I'm off to vote!

Another reason to vote; Colin Farrell is one of the other options. How would you feel, if he beat our CF?

(Annette)Colin Farrell is one of the other options. How would you feel, if he beat our CF? Sure Annette, this's why I'm gonna vote;-) Off I go.....

Last entry (for now): The largest collections of photos, I've seen (I haven't checked, if there are any new ones) http://www.alltheweb.com/search?t=all&q=colin+firth&c=img&cs=utf-8

Omigod! That is incredible. It even has the Colin-behind-the-maple-leaf graphic from my Hope Springs page and the collage of Livia's footwear that was posted here. v. strange search engine, as there's nothing from Dolores' or Lisbeth's site. Seems to have focused mainly on mine, Meluchie's, Carrie's and some of Murph's. v. peculiar. And it picks up every image from whichever page it has honed in on. :-(

(Karen) It even has the Colin-behind-the-maple-leaf graphic from my Hope Springs page and the collage of Livia's footwear that was posted here. Lots of pictures from your site....and oddly, some random family photos (?), a picture of the Dave Matthews Band and a bra... And I voted Annette. ODB appears to have the lead so far! Really like the picture....(thanks for that!).

(Annette) To vote or not to vote, that is the question! Boy that's interesting pics of ODB. Looks almost 3 sheets to the wind. And it seems marriage to whichever Spice has not been good to David Beckham....he's morphed into David Arquette, LOL.

Wow Annette, you are on a roll!! This hadto be posted!! LOL!!! The hair is too funny! Priceless...

Oops, ow well, page 10, bottom row, second from left...

Thanks for the pictures Annette. My God. Amazing.

LOL, Maria. I guess it's from AC? If it were AMITC you know, why I postet the part of the makeup- and hairartist;-) (The hair looks almost as bad as the wig in Valmont - I hate that long, thin ponytail, and even worse when it is wet - yeikes;-))

Thanks, Annette! It is hard to imagine how some of them got on this list (like Dabney Coleman in a towel).

(Rika) Or the naked man pic...Or how about the very phallic tower pic entitled (I think)Mark and Bridget...There is also a poster for foot fetish (that should go over on 175 with the new HS pic!)...

closing

There's a pic on page 23 that I'm very fond of....ODB at the TEP premiere. Photo looks like it was taken from below. Yum....Thanks again Annette!

Yikes, Annette. What a find. I thought it was very strange when I clicked on the pictures and started seeing Karen's name come up.

(Annette)To vote or not to vote..... Aright! Who besides me has voted early and often? At this rate he'll have over 800 votes today leaving the anti-cf in the dust!! Har har But get a load of the previous winners.... This may not be the best company for him to be in for more than just the "craft" reason.

(Beedee)But get a load of the previous winners.... This may not be the best company for him to be in for more than just the "craft" reason I had the same thought, when I saw them. Nevermind, I really don't want the other guy to get better score. btw, did you notice Craig David? If I remember correctly, he was on the soundtrack from BJD (Women trouble - my youngest favourite music right now).

Annette, you're awesome. What a find!

Today it is an old article, that I haven't seen before (promoting BJD): (quote article)..but anybody who didn't find the right relationship until they're 35 there's bound to have been a few ups and downs," he says. http://archive.nandotimes.com/noframes/story/0,2107,500472223-500723644-504061107-0,00.html

Annette, do you *ever* sleep??? This is quite a find! Thanks a bunch...

(MeredithA)Annette, do you *ever* sleep??? Oh yes, but not as much as "the doctor might order";-) If only every day consisted of 30 hours or so, I might get to do all the things, I would like to do. My entrys might also seem "worse", timewise that is, because I'm 8 hours ahead of the time of this board.

Thanks Annette for reprinting the article.It was posted 2 yrs ago, but a lot of folks weren't here then. (CF)"I was being rather arch and camp when I said being with an actress is a nightmare. The response was, 'Oh, you'll live to regret that..." ROTF. He must have read Drool. Those were my words. (CF) "I don't think anything quite matches the birth of a child, perhaps, especially the first child." He might live to regret this one too. I tell ya' he talks too much."Keep the answers simple, Colin"

(Evelyn) He might live to regret this one too. I tell ya' he talks too much."Keep the answers simple, Colin" LOL! I remember he once said that he might give the same question a different answer in the following day. Maybe he did have another answer for this one. :)

(CF) "I don't think anything quite matches the birth of a child, perhaps, especially the first child." (Evelyn) He might live to regret this one too. I tell ya' he talks too much."Keep the answers simple, Colin" This really stuck me, too. Ouch! "I was being rather arch and camp when I said being with an actress is a nightmare......But only in the sense for the most obvious reasons is that you rub egos in the wrong way sometimes. Not with Meg, actually, I wouldn't say that. Sometimes it's a great help to have some complementary qualities rather than have the same." Double ouch! He really was talkin' too much. ;-)

Hmmmm Not sure how this happened. Was very careful.

Definitely closing the tag. Anyway, thanks for reposting the article, Annette. Don't know why I never put it in the Archive. Such an omission. Will do so later.

Taking this to the right place: Re Joe Prince, (Evelyn)"You could be sure he'd be there in the morning". (Winter's words). And that's not all! Best male "face" shag scene I have ever seen! "Did the earth move?"

(FF)"Did the earth move?" (JP) "A little" *sigh* ***I love Joe Prince*** Watched a bit more of LE yesterday(not my first time) and Richard is v. dreamy.

(beedee) Best male "face" shag scene I have ever seen! OMG, yes! Incredible.

(beedee) Best male "face" shag scene I have ever seen! (Rika)OMG, yes! Incredible. Okay, perhaps it's time to count the favourite lines-pole. I can feel an urge for a new pole: I'm thinking "certain" faces (hint hint beedee and Rika), I'm thinking investegating the subject, I'm thinking evidences........ (follow my drift?) btw, really like Joe Prince too. (Karen)Don't know why I never put it in the Archive I thought, you where bound to have seen it those years ago, but when I didn't see it in the archive, I postet the link. I'm glad it gets to the archive, so it is easy to find for later rereadings.

Thanks for the article Annette. And I agree sometimes less is more.

(Annette) (follow my drift?) Oh, yeah. Drifting with you! But haven't we talked about favorite looks recently? Not that there's anything wrong with doing it again! But looks can be hard to capture in stills, as I think I said before, because usually it's the progression of subtle changes that makes the look, not any one instant.

A friend of mine in New York told me a scandalous Colin Firth rumor today, should I keep it to myself, dismiss it as probabably fake, or discuss it with some of you in email?