Colin Firth - part 14

Damn, I was cruising through here on the way to my Word docs and I saw a new topic. Please forgive me for feeling the urge to be the first to post and really have nothing to say!

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Sorry, but you might want to check our new list of topics. Plus you need to close your tag. Wasn't done on the Help board either.

(lisa)Please forgive me for feeling the urge to be the first to post and really have nothing to say! I was sitting here waiting for someone to go first. Lisa I'm glad it was you. You---always have something good to say. It's good to be here, hi everyone.

TO KAREN, FOR ORGANIZINGING THIS FUNDRAISING...

(Hanging curtains in the windows and pictures on the walls).. I do so love new rooms! Oh, and I just wanted everyone to know that I'll be sending a donation on Halloween, because that's when Daddy gets paid. =) I love this place, and I truly want to support it!

Ooooohhhhh....I feel a bit naked...Jeanie, don't you think we need to hang some pictures (hint, hint) ;-)

Karen, re: your comments on 163 about remembering that we have Darcy Drool and BJD topics.... I think our problem lately is that we've tended to careen from one topic to another (and hasn't it been fun :-) in such a way that it's hard to say, ah, NOW we're talking about P&P and should move the discussion. But you're absolutely right that some of us (myself included) need to be more aware of when it's time to move something to another topic. I promise to try to do better in the future!

I was cruising ebay tonight, and was wondering if anyone knew the origin of this picture: ebay tub picture Pretty yummy stuff. Just curious. (I hope I posted the link correctly, if not, sorry in advance.) LizBeth

LizBeth, that's from Valmont. A couple of us here can probably produce an identical DVD screen capture.

(Rika) A couple of us here can probably produce an identical DVD screen capture. So?????? we're waiting

I tried to write descriptions for each new topic to help: 165: The place to discuss current news and information on the man who brings us all here 166: An introductory topic which addresses the need to have a place to discuss Colin's older works and the body of written materials about him, which are not covered by specialized topics (e.g. BJD or P&P). There are no prerequisites or syllabi. However, it is useful to take Ann's HTML tutorial and to read the older, retired CF topics for many hours of entertaining reading. Maybe I wasn't too clear?

Karen, thanks for organising this, a great way of channelling appropriate discussions, for everyone, especially anyone new around here.... and a good reminder to us older, retired ones too:-)) Lizza *who already has her MD in in entertaining reading *!!

(Karen)165: The place to discuss current news and information on the man who brings us all here Thank you Karen...[My bolds;-)] And I assume, it's OK if this topic is vacant at times with no News. We can all go and enjoy the other topics.

So, let me see if I've got this. If we want to talk about Colin in regard topics like future projects (real or speculative,) and current events (appearances, sightings, awards, etc,) we do it here. If we want to talk about Colin in regard his adopted personas, we do it in the designated forum: Darcy Drool for Darcy v. 1, BJD for Darcy v. 2 and 166 for all others. Sort of like "real" Colin here, "non-Colins" elsewhere? I suppose general drool inspired by, for example, hair and its style related to a character or clothes and how well he looks in them goes in 166? Character related pictures in their appropriate place there also? Hope I'm not being unnecessarily dense, I'll make sure to have more caffeine before posting again.

Let me expand on what Barb just said because I'm still confused too. The recent discussion of the way he has adapted walking and running to fit different roles would be a good one for 166, I think, since it touched on several old roles (though since it arose from news about the Bond speculation, it would have started here in any case). But what about the recent hair/baldness discussion? If Barb is right about "real" Colin here, "non-Colin" elsewhere, then I'm not sure of the answer, because it dealt with both. Roles were mentioned, though mostly from an illustrative standpoint, and it dealt with past, present, and future. So let me ask the question another way. Karen, is the idea primarily to make 165 a narrower topic that's pretty much confined to, as you said, "current news and information" without wading through more general discussion (some of which is naturally going to lapse into the past)? And in that case is 166 essentially a catch-all for CF conversation that doesn't fit into another topic? Like Barb said, sorry if I'm being hopelessly dense. The descriptions you wrote make perfect sense until I start trying to apply them to recent discussions, and then things get fuzzier.

Not too bad a distinction for someone who may not have had enough caffeine. Right, this topic is for "new" stuff and 166 is for reminiscing about "old" stuff not covered by other topics specifically. If navigating around Drool seems difficult, perhaps we can discuss this at Help. I know there are many very convoluted ways to move among topics (urls used) and your way may not be the most efficient or effective.

(Rika) I think, since it touched on several old roles (though since it arose from news about the Bond speculation, it would have started here in any case). I've been shanghaid many a time to Odds and Ends for talking about speculative roles on this topic:-((

Article on Amanda Bynes frmo the NY Times: A Proud Product of the Nick Pipeline By DAVID HOCHMAN BURBANK, Calif. CHANCES are, either you've never heard of Amanda Bynes or there's a life-size poster of her on one of your walls. In the first camp are grown-ups without young kids. But for the generation that connects the dots of personal growth from Baby Bop to Justin Timberlake via Pok�mon, Ms. Bynes is like Lucille Ball, Carol Burnett and Gilda Radner rolled into one 16-year-old package. "Sixteen and a half," she pointed out during an interview in her dressing room on the set of "What I Like About You," a new sitcom on WB. Still stoked from a marathon PSAT session with her studio-appointed tutor ("There are these things called mnemonic devices," she explained, "which are sentences that help you remember words like `ameliorate' "), Ms. Bynes reflected on a distinguished career that began way back in the Clinton administration. After being discovered at a children's comedy camp in Los Angeles in 1994, Ms. Bynes quickly emerged as the brightest talent on the Nickelodeon network who wasn't an animated chihuahua. First as a sketch-comedy performer on "All That," a sort of pint-size "Saturday Night Live," and later as host of "The Amanda Show," on which she parodied pop icons as lofty as Judge Judy, Ms. Bynes developed a following among the post-Barney set that was like a stealth explosion. "A couple years ago, any kid 6 to 13 knew right away who she was," said Dan Schneider, who has produced nearly everything Ms. Bynes has done as an actress. "But most parents were like, `Amanda who?' " That's slowly starting to change. Ms. Bynes is a product of an unofficial new pipeline program in which young performers start on Nickelodeon's low-budget, quick-turnaround shows and then, if they succeed, break out into sitcoms and movies. Like Ms. Bynes, Kenan Thompson and Kel Mitchell walked away from "All That" with their own Nickelodeon series, "Kenan & Kel," before branching out into films like "The Good Burger" (1997). Nick Cannon has followed his "All That" run with "The Nick Cannon Show," a new Nickelodeon musical comedy program, as well as the lead in "Drumline," a big-screen comedy that opens in January. Waiting in the wings is Jamie Lynn Spears, Britney's 12-year-old sister, a sparkly-eyed standout in the current cast of "All That." "We hate to see our kids leave," said Kevin Kay, Nickelodeon's vice president for development, "but fortunately, we have something called reruns, and the more our stars do on the outside, the better it reflects on us." With a gift for physical comedy and a fearlessness in front of live studio audiences, Ms. Bynes helped make "All That" and "The Amanda Show" the top-rated live-action programs on Nickelodeon. (Proving Mr. Kay's point, reruns of "The Amanda Show" on Saturday nights still outperform the channel's other non-animated shows, even though it's been two years since an original episode was made.) Young girls admired her because she's pretty and they wanted to be like her, while the boys appreciated that Ms. Bynes wasn't afraid to stick her head in a bucket of mud or fall off a roof. Mr. Schneider, who co-created those shows, then wrote Ms. Bynes into a 2002 feature film, "Big Fat Liar," and later cast her in "What I Like About You," a program he created with Wil Cahoun. In it, Ms. Bynes plays a suburban teenager who moves in with her reluctant big sister, played by Jennie Garth, in Manhattan after their father takes a job in Japan. WB may claim Ms. Bynes now (the network's Web site lets fans download a life-size image of her in 28 8 1/2-by-11 printouts), but she literally grew up on Nickelodeon. She sprouted six inches during her years there. "We went through seven or eight stunt doubles," she said. "They couldn't keep up." But the material was also getting old. "I knew I didn't want to be a Nickelodeon kid when I was 30," she said. "I was having fun but at 15, you don't want to be doing what you did when you were 12." What she likes about "What I Like About You," she said, is "it has appeal to people twice my age, even older." Since the sitcom debuted in September, it has been the top-rated show in its Friday-night time slot among women in the desirable 18-to-34 age group. Many a "True Hollywood Story" has been told about show-business kids going bad, but Ms. Bynes seems remarkably self-possessed and far more sedate than the highly caffeinated characters she plays on television. Her idea of a big night usually revolves around a rented video and microwave popcorn, she said. Mr. Schneider, a former child star himself, having appeared on the 1980's sitcom "Head of the Class," said: "I've seen kids in her position experiment with drugs and be too promiscuous, but Amanda has avoided all of that. My wife, who knows her, says she's almost like Marcia Brady in that she's so clean-cut and wholesome." Still, balancing long days of filming with prep courses for standardized tests is enough to make anybody a bit world-weary. "Some days," Ms. Bynes said, half-joking, "I'd like nothing better than to sit on the couch eating bonbons. It's like, can I just have a blanket and be 5 again? Please!"

From Miami Herald:10/19/02 CELEBS EVERYWHERE South Florida events are attracting them Speaking of VIPs, they're due everywhere at upcoming events: Actress Kelly Preston, wife of John Travolta, will be inducted into Miami Children's Hospital International Pediatric Hall of Fame Nov. 2 for her work on children's health issues.

Hmmmm, am checking topic line again and done a "Find in Page" search for Colin's name. ;-)

Jeannette Walls, Gossip columnist at MSNBC: CRITICS WERE SO savage toward Madonna in �Swept Away� that her spokeswoman called it �a public hanging, an assassination.� �Madonna must be a glutton for punishment, because she�s coming back for more,� says our source, who isn�t clear on how big Madonna�s role in �Love Actually� will be. �After the drubbing she got [in �Swept Away�] who knows if her role will end up on the cutting room floor.� The film will be directed by Richard Curtis, who also wrote �Notting Hill� � which some insiders believe was inspired by Madonna�s romance with an unknown Brit named Andy Bird. There have also been reports that Madonna is looking for a role on Broadway. Madonna�s rep didn�t return calls by press time.

May be you all knew about this already: The Reason "America Girl" has been Changed to "London Calling" (this is my title ;)) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Yahoo Movie: Title Note: (7/2/02) The title of "American Girl" should be considered very tentative. One factor to whether WB will stick with this title will probably be the question of whether another movie called American Girl, starring Jena Malone, is going to be getting lots of publicity, and possibly a release date, before this movie does. As a sidenote, Warner Bros. also has another project in development called "American Girl", which is described as a Roman Holiday-type story about a daughter of the U.S. president ditching her Secret Service guards to go on an European road trip. If that movie ever gets made, it will most likely have a different title. (10/5/02) Possibly realizing that the Jena Malone movie will probably be debuting at Sundance at around the same time as this movie is being released (and thus, will be getting a lot of press there), Warner Bros. has decided to change the title of this film to the (more appropriate) 'London Calling', named after the most famous album by the punk band, The Clash. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Apparently, the other "America Girl" used to have a name of "Lifers' Picnic"

Sorry, Here is the link: http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808415450

Thanks, Annie -- In reading all of Greg's information at Yahoo on "London Calling," I see the film wrapped in August. And he is already into GWAPE, with "Love, Actually" in there sometime too. It made me realize that though we occasionally wonder at his choices, Colin does work almost non-stop at his craft. Can anyone remember an extended period of time when he was not acting somewhere?

Didn't he have about a six-month break before LC (including the planned run for "Hamlet")? But, yeah, he's been busy since then. Which reminds me. I assume there's been nothing new about FTB? I'd hoped that might be next.

(Mary) Can anyone remember an extended period of time when he was not acting somewhere? Didn't he take an extended break while he was in the wilds of Canada with MT and baby Will??

Rika, What is FTB? I know I've probably read about it sometime in the past, but I can't for the life of me thinks what it is!!

Fade to Black, the Orson Welles film being made by Fragile and directed by Ollie Parker and mentioned by him (re: Colin) up at Edinburgh.

(Rika)Which reminds me. I assume there's been nothing new about FTB? I'd hoped that might be next. Yes, No,No,No. TEoR first!

Where is GWAPE being filmed? In the Netherlands? Who is there to gather intelligence for us???? I'm confused, is this the right topic?

Right topic, wrong country. They're filming in Luxembourg, starting mid- November, I believe.

(Linda) Yes, No,No,No. TEoR first! But at one point didn't we hear TEOR might not happen before summer? And in that case there's plenty of time for something else in between. (Lisa) Where is GWAPE being filmed? In the Netherlands? Luxembourg, right? I'm confused, is this the right topic? If not, I have a feeling we'll find out. :-)

FTB = Current speculation (not idle as director mentioned CF's name) TEOR = Current speculation (not idle either) GWAPE = Current commitment What do these all have in common? ;-)

(Karen) What do these all have in common? ;-) Hopefully that they remain current? Am catching up here. Thanks again for all the pictures Rika. Not quite sure if I like him bald. IMO makes him look like he did in very early films. A look I will definitely have to adjust to.

(Karen) What do these all have in common? ;-) (Waving hand wildly from the back of the room) I know, I know!!!!!! They're all So they go in 165!

(Karen's list) FTB = Current speculation (not idle as director mentioned CF's name) TEOR = Current speculation (not idle either) GWAPE = Current commitment Are we going to include 'The Dead Wait'.....It sounded promising (kind of in the FTB catagory)??

Yes. Sorry it wasn't included. But that list shouldn't be construed as all-inclusive or limiting. Because of the nature of "current," expect new things to pop up all the time.

I was just wondering where we would post "silliness"? Subjects such as "Hair Plugs, or Not To Hairplugs".. so, I guess it's silliness and speculation (thinking upon it)... no, just silliness.

(Jeanie)I was just wondering where we would post "silliness"? I think general silliness goes on Firthology, Specific silliness goes to specific topics like Darcy Drool for Darcy, and BJD. Got that?:-)There is a general hair discussion on Firthology right now. Hope that helped.

(Linda) Specific silliness goes to specific topics like Darcy Drool for Darcy, and BJD. On second thought, since BJD has a "currency" factor these days with news of TEOR, let's leave that one alone as well.

.....it's been awhile so bear with me..... are these new?: http://www.rexfeatures.com/cgi-bin/rppshow0?k=colin+firth&f=Newest dorine---how about "fitzwilliam" for a cat name?

No we saw those a while ago. Lookin pretty good, isn't he? Thought about Darcy, but decided against that. I really liked Colin actually, but the person who gave it to me would know the origin and I couldn't tolerate a (cat's) lifetime of ridicule. ;) Fitzwilliam had not occurred to me. Such a big name for a tiny cat. :)

A friend just sent me this...Don't know if this is #165 or #166...Whatever....Boss take down the one you want. Cute new story, (to me)in a new bio of Sam Mendes. But it's about 3 DOR (old play). A story about Colin on the opening nightof 3 DOR. He had wanted to get some fresh air, stepped outside a stage door, but it was locked and he couldn't get back in.LOL. He had to reenter the building via the front (wearing his Walker outfit), and had to refuse to sign autographs, as curtain time was in 20 minutes. The book even mentioned that the author, Richard Greenburg, never saw the London production. Odd. The book spent more time on Greenburg's other play "Take Me Out" which he did come to London to see." Book has pic of Colin we've seen before. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Don't think he went out to sneak a ciggie...he didn't even smoke in the play.

(Dorine) Fitzwilliam had not occurred to me. Such a big name for a tiny cat. :) How about Fitzkitty?

(Dorine) Fitzwilliam had not occurred to me. Such a big name for a tiny cat. :) (KathyF) How about Fitzkitty? Or, if you DO name him Fitzwilliam, you can call him Liam...now granted that's the name of the best Arsenal player that ever lived, but it's still a good name. Liam! Brilliant!! (oooops....I think I'm off to topic 166). Sorry Karen!!

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Hi everyone! Just a quick hello to tell you that Love Actually is tentatively set for theatrical release in December 2003. Don't know if you all knew this yet or not. Will keep you posted.

Thanks, Lola! Tentatively means they can also move the date into 2004! Why must we wait so long, do you know?

Thanks, Lola. I like a Colin movie at the Christmas holidays, when I have ample time for repeat viewings--shades of SIL!:-) Moon, this film won't wrap until November or December. A one-year wait from end of filming to arrival in theaters is pretty typical, actually. (The quick turnaround on London Calling is atypical.) And isn't there a Christmas Eve theme somewhere in Love Actually, typing all the stories together?

Christmas 2003, LA, sounds good to me. Yeah Mari...just like SIL, when we all shoved families out the door so we could go see it. Always like to line -up my Christmas movies. Am set for 2002: CHICAGO. !

(Evelyn) Am set for 2002: CHICAGO. ! Oh, fabulous, that might actually be dooable! Whaddya say, Southeastern Firthettes, anyone up for a road trip in December of next year????

Jeanie, I'm a Southeastern Firthette....wrong continent though. (Insert sad winkie)

(Evelyn) Am set for 2002: CHICAGO. ! sorry :-(( meant"Chicago" (film) with RZ and CZJ.

'Girl' Pearled with Supporting Cast Fri Oct 25, 4:21 AM ET By Adam Dawtrey LONDON (Variety) - Cillian Murphy, fresh from the lead role in "28 Days Later," has joined the cast of "Girl With a Pearl Earring," along with Alakina Mann ("The Others"), Judy Parfitt ("ER") and Essie Davis. This quartet rounds out the supporting cast of the movie, which stars Colin Firth (news), Scarlett Johansson (news) and Tom Wilkinson (news). Peter Webber is directing this adaptation of Tracey Chevalier's bestselling novel about the relationship between 17th century Dutch painter Jan Vermeer and his maidservant. Shooting will start Nov. 18 in Luxembourg. Lions Gate is taking North American rights.

Judy Parfitt ("ER") ER the TV show? Is she the one who plays Corday's mother? She would be Maria Thins? I don't know the other ones. I only saw part of "The Others", so I don't know who Alakina Mann is. Is she the one who was the housekeeper or whatever that NK hires?

(Evelyn)(Evelyn) Am set for 2002: CHICAGO. ! sorry :-(( meant"Chicago" (film) with RZ and CZJ. Oh well, I knew it was too good to be true! ;)

Alakina Mann will be one of the children. Essie Davis is an Australian actress, mainly stage, and will be Catharina. As her CV says she speaks Norwegian, she will look Dutch enough:

Cillian Murphy will likely be Peter:

My guess is that Alakina plays the nasty Cornelia.

Judy Parfitt was also terrific in "Jewel In The Crown" as the sophisticated, world weary mother, Mildred Layton. What a great cast for this film!

Thank you Mari for the news! I was wondering when they would announce more cast members. Alakina Mann was very good in "The Others" I can see her as Cornelia (which, like Karen, I think will be the child she plays...though there are five (or six) others at the beginning of the book...eleven by the end).

Thanks Mari for GWAPE news and Karen for brief on actors. On Essie Davis - just thinking that there are only 15 million inhabitants of this huge continent. Seems like half of them have gone to Hollywood LOL.

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(Minkee) Seems like half of them have gone to Hollywood LOL. It would appear she's represented out of London, and is currently starring as Stella, opposite Glenn Close's Blanche in the National's production of A Streetcar Named Desire. A couple of people here have seen this, eh, Aishling??? ;-)

Thanks, Karen and Mari, for the GWAPE news and casting info. I loved Judy Parfitt in the Jewel and the Crown.

Essie Davis is wonderful in Streetcar. She got the biggest applause at curtain call.

...Love Actually is tentatively set for theatrical release in December 2003. Which would be appropriate as movie has X-mas theme. So actually could be released as early as November and fit seasonally. Thanks Hola, Mari, and Karen for news.

Huh? Lola posted December. Why are other months being suggested as possibilities?

Cillian Murphy, fresh from the lead role in "28 Days Later," has joined the cast of "Girl With a Pearl Earring," along with Alakina Mann ("The Others"), Judy Parfitt ("ER") and Essie Davis. Well it looks like the Art House circuit. These actors are not known. I was expecting a little better for such a high profile book. :-(

(Moon)Well it looks like the Art House circuit. These actors are not known. I was expecting a little better for such a high profile book. :-( Moon, you took the words out of my mouth. Nothing against these actors, I'm sure they're fine, but they are obviously dealing with a very low budget here. Evelyn may have to skip Dallas and just go directly to NYC for this one.;-) I have to chuckle when I think of our fantasy casting: Diana Rigg, Vanessa Redgrave, Anjelica Huston, Helen Mirren, Uma Thurman, Janet McTeer, Heath Ledger. I think Heath drops more in tips each week than this entire budget.;-) (Evelyn)just like SIL, when we all shoved families out the door so we could go see it. LOL! Buh bye, bye now, buh bye! Am set for 2002: CHICAGO. ! You and me both! You won't have to hunt for that one.

(Mari) I have to chuckle when I think of our fantasy casting: Diana Rigg, Vanessa Redgrave, Anjelica Huston, Helen Mirren, Uma Thurman, Janet McTeer, Heath Ledger. It seems that the cast list is mostly complete (I am assuming that Judy Parfitt will be playing Maria Thins), but what about the role of Tanneke? And the butcher? We can still fantasy cast for those two roles...(though it looks like we need to chose lesser knowns...). My vote is for Kathy Burke for Tanneke and I'll have to think on the butcher...

(Moon) These actors are not known. So, the parts are supporting. And have you never heard of breakout roles? This one has potential for Essie. Really, did anyone think this would be anything but art house? Artists, poets and writers go to the art house. This is a large-scale project for a small production company. Has the budget been mentioned?

Don't know if this has been posted - Greg's Upcoming Movies page on Love Actually. Opens against The Matrix on 11/7 - Yipes!: "...when Curtis, one of his producers and a cameraman flew to Kenya where they filmed the movie's opening image, a picture on a wall of a group of Africans who come to life and start talking to each other in Swahili." http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808428929&intl=us

(Mari), Heath Ledger. I think Heath drops more in tips each week than this entire budget.;-) My kind of guy. :-) (Moon) These actors are not known. (Karen), So, the parts are supporting. And have you never heard of breakout roles? This one has potential for Essie. LOL! I never thought of that! Leave it to you, to see the light at the end of the tunnel. ;-) Artists, poets and writers go to the art house. My crowd of course, but that has been expanding lately. Regardless, GWAPE was a high profile book. This will be the film the says, "Can CF carry a movie?" IMO, it does not bode well for him. I remain happy to be contradicted on this.

(Moon) This will be the film the says, "Can CF carry a movie?" IMO, it does not bode well for him. I remain happy to be contradicted on this. Me, too! Let's hope he also got points for doing BJD. If not and this movie is so low budget, he may not be able to afford his free trade coffee anymore. ;)

Thanks, Murph, but I think I'll go with Lola's for more current and more reliable as to source for the release date. I hate that Greg's pages no longer have the date shown for updates. (Moon) This will be the film the says, "Can CF carry a movie?" Yes and no. True, he *is* the male lead in this, but we know from the book that the movie is really about Griet. Besides that measure only applies to movies that open wide and this one won't. HS would've been that movie, as it seemed like the kind of movie that would have a wide release.

(Karen), HS would've been that movie, as it seemed like the kind of movie that would have a wide release. True, but look at the delay there too. And, the book was not high profile. I am starting to doubt a wide release on HS. :-( And he is the male lead there too.

Remember, I said *would've been* GWAPE being a high-profile book is fairly meaningless. Some book readers go to the movies, but most moviegoers do not read books, especially that type of book. More would've been made that HS was written by the same author as The Graduate and people can connect with movies, especially famous movies like that.

More would've been made that HS was written by the same author as The Graduate and people can connect with movies, especially famous movies like that. Yes, you and I would think that it would've been a good marketing tool, but first they change the title and then they delay the release. HS is a well cast film in which Colin has the male lead. GWAPE is not a well cast film in which Colin has the male lead. What's the connection? ;-)

Moon, you've completely lost me. My point was that HS would've been the type of film to open wide and would've been one everyone used to see if Colin could open a major film. Changing the title of NC to HS isn't important, as no one would've heard of NC. That fact that it was by the same author as The Graduate was the important marketing point, not the title. HS is a well cast film in which Colin has the male lead. GWAPE is not a well cast film in which Colin has the male lead. I tend to disagree, as I never liked the casting of HS. I find nothing wrong or deficient with GWAPE's casting. I never expected *big* names for the supporting roles.

My point was that HS would've been the type of film to open wide and would've been one everyone used to see if Colin could open a major film. With two well known actresses in the US as HG and MD, I don't think that HS would have been the one everyone would use to see if Colin could carry a major film. There are too many known actors in HS, it's more of a cast film. GWAPE on the other hand would be carried by CF.

With two well known actresses in the US as HG and MD, I don't think that HS would have been the one everyone would use to see if Colin could carry a major film. He is the main character. It is about Colin Ware. Yes, both HG and MD are known, but the film is not about the female characters. Even if CF and HG are considered co-leads, H'wood would be assessing whether Colin had the ability star in bigger, more important films based on this film's box office.

both HG and MD are known, but the film is not about the female characters. Even if CF and HG are considered co-leads, My take has always been that the HS script was re-worked to give HG and MD more screen time. You and I will have to disagree on this one, Karen. H'wood would be assessing whether Colin had the ability star in bigger, more important films based on this film's box office. And thus the delay in the release date?

And thus the delay in the release date? Unrelated.

This is for my fellow guilt-ridden firthettes who just can't pass up CF movies on TV even though we have them on DVD, VHS or both: RV on Monday 4:35 PM-Starz BJD on Wednesday 8PM-Starz

Thank you Mary and Linda for updates. Karen, as I value your opinion and expertise, could you please tell me what you feel is the reason for the delay in opening HS? I have no knowledge of anything in this arena. I understood the article about keeping post production films to offset ventures, but does it apply with HS and Disney? I seriously would like to understand the delay. Thank you.

(Linda) This is for my fellow guilt-ridden firthettes who just can't pass up CF movies on TV even though we have them on DVD, VHS or both: RV on Monday 4:35 PM-Starz, BJD on Wednesday 8PM-Starz .......And for those whose CF tapes were eaten in the VCR. Thanks, Linda. Had looked up the schedule for the end of Oct to Nov, but hadn't really made a mental or physical note of any showings coming up yet. (And I just ordered the RV DVD on Thurs.) (Karen) Changing the title of NC to HS isn't important, as no one would've heard of NC. That fact that it was by the same author as The Graduate was the important marketing point, not the title. Actually I never understood why they changed the name. Because no one heard of it? Then why change it? Why not just make it known by its real title? Certainly easier to market it as by the same author as The Graduate if the real book title is used. Would make it easier for people who are unfamiliar with the fact that there will be a movie version to identify with I would think. Even if CF and HG are considered co-leads, H'wood would be assessing whether Colin had the ability star in bigger, more important films based on this film's box office. (Moon) HS is a well cast film in which Colin has the male lead. (Karen)I tend to disagree, as I never liked the casting of HS. I hate to think *this* film would be the barometer of his box office pull. I am no fan of HGm or MD (although did really like her in CoF, which is pretty much it). I wasn't that fond of the book. If the studio asked *me*, he would be the only thing getting me to that movie. And quite a few people here. *But* I fear that this will do even worse than TIOBE. I wonder how much BO was generated for that with multiple viewings of Colin's fans. At least that had the interest of Oscar Wilde fans, too. I fear I won't be seeing this quite so many times. and finally... Karen, as I value your opinion and expertise Well someone's got to. (*hundreds upon hundreds of winkies!!!) Feelin' kinda silly tonight! Sorry! ;-)

(Dorine)Why not just make it known by its real title? I'm going to guess that since they filmed part of this "New Cardiff" in Hope, BC, they decided to use all the available signs in the city that said Hope already. So they change the name of the film to HS and it saves the producers money. Then they pretend they're in New England. I'm still wondering how they got this film made at all considering how lousy the weather was in BC last fall.

(Dorine) If the studio asked *me*, he would be the only thing getting me to that movie. And quite a few people here. I agree. I know he's the only reason I'm going to go see it. Let's hope we can all do him some good. I'm sure we did with TIOBE. If only the rest of the movie going public was as savvy as we are then they would know what a fine actor he is too.

Just for the record, I liked the book...no kidding. Terrific dialogue. I still have it close by and read through the tie chapter occasionally.Hilarious. And how about the library scene. Have you read through our discussions? I thought everyone liked it at the time..'cept for Moon. On the strength of the book, yes I would go to see the film. Now "London Calling" (AKA AG)....I dunno...*there* you've got me;-)

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(Evelyn) Just for the record, I liked the book...no kidding. Terrific dialogue. I still have it close by and read through the tie chapter occasionally.Hilarious. And how about the library scene. I didn't hate it, just didn't make an impact on me. Matter of fact, can't really remember right offhand what happened in those two scenes you mentioned. It did amuse me at times, just can't remember where at the moment. Now "London Calling" (AKA AG)....I dunno...*there* you've got me;-) For me, curiosity factor. Who knows, maybe it'll be cute anyway.

(Evelyn) Just for the record, I liked the book...no kidding. So did I, Evelyn. It's a lightweight story, but it was a fun read and I laughed at a lot of the dialogue.

(Evelyn) Just for the record, I liked the book...no kidding. (Rika) So did I, Evelyn. It's a lightweight story, but it was a fun read and I laughed at a lot of the dialogue. I'm with you guys... I thought the book was very funny. I read it while I was in the hospital after a surgery. Cheered my right up! Though the morphine drip probably helped. I did re-read sections of it later and found it just as amusing.

(Evelyn) Just for the record, I liked the book...no kidding. (Rika) So did I, Evelyn. It's a lightweight story, but it was a fun read and I laughed at a lot of the dialogue. (Tress) I'm with you guys... I thought the book was very funny. LOL...well it's not the first time I've been in the minority nor will it be the last I'm certain :-)

(Dorine) LOL...well it's not the first time I've been in the minority nor will it be the last I'm certain :-) You may not be in the minority at all. And even though I liked the book I'm not sure how well it's going to transfer to the screen.

(Dorine) LOL...well it's not the first time I've been in the minority nor will it be the last I'm certain :-) You and me both! I had a problem with the ending of the book. But I think the script will surprise us.

(Moon) But I think the script will surprise us I hope so since the book seemed so short as well. Certainly keeping an open mind. :)

(Dorine)I hope so since the book seemed so short as well. Certainly keeping an open mind. :) I'm with you too, Dorine. I thought it was short, and I wasn't crazy about the ending. I didn't hate it either, but I don't know if when I read it I was hoping to enjoy it because I was reading with Colin in mind. I probably wouldn't have read it if it weren't for him. Now, GWAPE was a different thing entirely. I loved the book, again, major enjoyment picturing Colin as Vermeer, but I would have loved it anyway. I don't have the same attachment to HS.

Catching up on the weekend posts . . . (Karen)Really, did anyone think this would be anything but art house? No, I didn't, but was hoping that more prominent casting, especially for Maria Thins and Catherina, might boost the appeal a little. Plus that would have indicated to me that they were working with a decent budget. Low budget is not intrinsically bad, of course, but it means that very little will be spent on promotion. Without promotion, unless they get very strong early support from key critics on the film festival circuit, it's DOA. (Brenda)I'm going to guess that since they filmed part of this "New Cardiff" in Hope, BC, they decided to use all the available signs in the city that said Hope already. So they change the name of the film to HS and it saves the producers money. Too bad they didn't film it in Intercourse, PA.;-) (Yes, it's a real place!) (Brenda)I'm still wondering how they got this film made at all considering how lousy the weather was in BC last fall. Brenda, are you from the area? I recall reading an article or seeing a report here that they had to bring in copious amounts of leaves for filming, as the real ones had mostly blown off under the heavy rains and winds. I did like the book, thought it was funny, but I do know of numerous Firth fans who didn't care for it at all.

This ought to get the juices flowing. The German DVD/video cover of Londinium, courtesy of a fan at the fantasy women's site. So, is it him or not?

Him, who? It isn't even any of the hers. ;-) I have a bigger one of that and it's nobodies.

Him, who? Mike Binder. ;-) I know the women look nothing like Irene and Mariel, but you gotta admit--at least at the size above--it looks like CF. Except I guess he doesn't do shirtless anymore.;-) I wouldn't mind ogling a bigger vwrsion if you have one.

(Mari) So, is it him or not? If it was CF, I was going to say his CHB (chest hair beautician) needs some lessons...she missed a spot (or two).

Am bringing out the voodoo doll! You mentioned that name. *shivering* Actually, I'd bet it's supposed to the Little Colonel, but it is neither. I forgot to mention that the German lady who told me about the DVD/video in has actually seen it and rented it. She asked me who those people were on the cover. ;-) Also, FYI, the German version is dubbed and there is no English with subtitle capability on the DVD either. That's why she came to me; she wanted to find out about an English language version. And, as if to cinch, where's the little patch of light chest hair? Losing that too? ;-)

The German DVD/video cover of Londinium, courtesy of a fan at the fantasy women's site. Does anyone know where I could get it? I can't find it at Amazon.de.

Sorry, I got my ranks mixed up and meant the Little Corporal...or I suppose it could be the Balsa Woodman ;-)

(Karen re: L'dum) Also, FYI, the German version is dubbed and there is no English with subtitle capability on the DVD either. Maybe that is a good thing. MB couldn't possibly be as annoying in German, could he? And for those who don't speak German, made up dialogue to go with the film would be much better than the real thing (like 'Mystery Science Theatre').

(Mari), So, is it him or not? It looks like it's him with Livia and Renee! ;-) (Karen), And, as if to cinch, where's the little patch of light chest hair? Losing that too? ;-) LOL! Not that we'll ever get to see it again. :-\

(Moon Dreams) It looks like it's him with Livia and Renee! ;-) Too funny...He must have bought Livia an ab cruncher last Christmas!!

(Tress)I was going to say his CHB (chest hair beautician) needs some lessons... LOL, Sorry, but I only work on the real thing. Not these body double types.

(Mari) Too bad they didn't film it in Intercourse, PA.;-) (Yes, it's a real place!) LOL!! I've been there. (Moon) It looks like it's him with Livia and Renee! ;-) So funny. I agree.

(Karen)And, as if to cinch, where's the little patch of light chest hair? Losing that too? ;-) Maybe it's been "loved off." ;-) (Tress)And for those who don't speak German, made up dialogue to go with the film would be much better than the real thing (like 'Mystery Science Theatre'. ROTF, Tress--I love Mystery Science Theater! Hey, I'll give it a shot: Scene is the one where Mariel wants some but CF has distasteful look on his face and begs off saying I'm gassy from the meat pie at dinner. Mystery Science Theater Script: "Wot smells in here? Oh, wait, it's the dialogue." ;-) (Linda)Sorry, but I only work on the real thing. Not these body double types. Attagirl, Linda--maintain those high standards!:-)

Ok guys, Per an internal report sent out today, Love Actually is now set for release November 7, 2003. Again, this may change. It was moved since the studio plans to push Cat In Hat and Peter Pan for the holidays. Will keep you posted.

Gracias Lola..I like the new release date better. Less competition. Along with Cat/Hat and PP there will be the new Lord of the Rings and HP. Gaaaagh.

(Mari) Scene is the one where Mariel wants some but CF has distasteful look on his face and begs off saying I'm gassy from the meat pie at dinner. Mystery Science Theater Script: "Wot smells in here? Oh, wait, it's the dialogue." Love it! MSTing L. could be an entertaining project.

(Tress) Maybe that is a good thing. MB couldn't possibly be as annoying in German, could he? And for those who don't speak German, made up dialogue to go with the film would be much better than the real thing (like 'Mystery Science Theatre'). (Mari) Mystery Science Theater Script: "Wot smells in here? Oh, wait, it's the dialogue." ROTF! (Karen), And, as if to cinch, where's the little patch of light chest hair? Losing that too? ;-) (Moon) LOL! Not that we'll ever get to see it again. :-\ LOL, Moon! But I fear you may be right :( Thanks, Lola! In case I missed it somewhere, has the length of the GWAPE shoot been posted or listed anywhere? The reason I ask is guest for our movie class tonight was Vincent D'Onofrio. He mentioned that his "Law and Order" takes a break for a month starting mid-Nov at which time he will be going to Luxembourg to film a movie. Didn't say what. Couldn't *believe* the teacher didn't ask him what it was. And we weren't given the opportunity to ask questions. I think because earlier in the class tonight he pointed out an audience question to Harvey Keitel last week that he thought was a bit crass. I almost shouted out the question to Vincent as I was only 7 rows away, but decided against it due to the previous admonishment. If I'd gotten up immediately after and been sitting in the back, I might have caught him, but the teacher had to finish comments for tonights class.

(Karen), And, as if to cinch, where's the little patch of light chest hair? Losing that too? ;-) In my experience, it's never really lost, it just migrates to their backs! (Blah!) I hope NOT for ODB. Sort of gives me the willies that he may not be superhuman.

(Dorine)He mentioned that his "Law and Order" takes a break for a month starting mid-Nov at which time he will be going to Luxembourg to film a movie. That's interesting, Dorine, I'd bet it is GWAPE. Maybe he's playing the butcher; he'd be about the right age, 40-ish I'm guessing. Filming starts November 18, and since it's a small role, they wouldn't need him for the entire shoot; he could probably do his scenes in a couple of weeks. Also, aren't most/all of the butcher's scenes outdoors at the market? Would make sense if they wanted to film those first before the wintry weather sets in. In my experience, it's never really lost, it just migrates to their backs! Ew! LOL, LizBeth.

(LizBeth) In my experience, it's never really lost, it just migrates to their backs! (Blah!) I hope NOT for ODB. I'm thinking we'll be lucky with ODB. He is one of the most hairless men I've ever seen. He doesn't have any real visible hair on his arms or legs (his chest hair needs mascara), his eyebrows are even faint...no visible happy trail...though he has enough on his face, head and (as PM showed) other essential areas, I don't think he'll be one for the scary hair (back, ears and those crazy eyebrows that grandpa's sometimes get). Now I've kinda freaked myself out a bit...think I'll go watch BJD....(BTW, yesterday was the two week countdown for TIOBE DVD/VHS release...only 13 more days!!)

(Dorine)He mentioned that his "Law and Order" takes a break for a month starting mid-Nov at which time he will be going to Luxembourg to film a movie. (Mari) That's interesting, Dorine, I'd bet it is GWAPE. After I read this last night, I did a frantic search on the internet to see if anything was written...I came up with nothing. I would think that he would be listed in the cast list with everyone else....he is somewhat of a name (though not huge). But, like I said, nothing came up (GWAPE or otherwise for Vincent D'Onofrio in Luxembourg). He would be good in the role of he butcher... Dorine, what kind of class are you taking? It sounds interesting....

I don't think he'll be one for the scary hair (back, ears and those crazy eyebrows that grandpa's sometimes get). Thank you, Tress, for the first really good laugh I've had all day! And, no, I don't think we'll have to worry about that (thank heavens!).

(Tress) He is one of the most hairless men I've ever seen. He doesn't have any real visible hair on his arms or legs (his chest hair needs mascara), his eyebrows are even faint...no visible happy trail... Just the thought of a happy trail made me happy...At the risk of becoming monofixated, his hands look quite hairless as well. Large, clean,expressive... I can see them stirring the blue soup and working other miracles as I daydream away....

Hope this is the right place to post this....I found a site where you can vote for "the Next James Bond" and since we talked about this a couple of weeks ago, I thought I would post the link (ODB is running at #1, you have to vote to see the percentages). Obviously not official, but a bit of fun...check out the "Contenders" link, it lists pros/cons of each actor. Under 'Cons' for ODB, it says "very few" (don't we know it)! JN is also on the list, as are a few others that were mentioned in our last discussion. http://uk.geocities.com/thenext007uk/bondvote.html

Thanks for link Tress. One never knows what the future may bring. I, for one, can see him as Bond, James Bond. OOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Karen is being very patient with us, but I'm guessing we'd better move the body hair discussion to 166. I've put a comment there. Dorine, I bet you're right about D'Onofrio. How many movies could be shooting in Luxembourg in November?

Actually, my mistake. I meant he's going mid-Dec not mid-Nov. Duh! *slapping forehead". That's why I asked how long the shooting sched might be. He made a comment that films are willing to work around him and wait til he's available. I was thinking he might be Van R...(whatever). Not sure if he's supposed to be a lecherous *old* man or not. I'll talk about the movie class in O&E.

ACK! Good Gawd, Karen, where on earth did you come up with that pic of ODB?!Yikes!!! Thanks for the link, Tress. Can't hurt to vote; you never know who is looking at this stuff.

Can anyone remember if this is the same hairdresser mentioned, I think, in an Evening Standard item, the one that talked about the curl relaxer? From Ananova: David Seaman has had some of his hair cut off and trimmed his moustache. According to his hairdresser, the Arsenal keeper has reduced his moustache and has had his mane cut into a David Ginola-style bob. The 39-year-old has also lost around half a stone in weight, says stylist Errol Douglas. [yadda yadda yadda] The stylist, who cuts the hair of actors Brad Pitt and Colin Firth and Atomic Kitten's Jenny Frost, was 7/4 with bookmakers William Hill to win the upcoming British Hairdresser of the Year award.

Thanks for the update, Hola. (Dorine) Vincent D'Onofrio...mentioned that his "Law and Order" takes a break for a month starting mid-Nov at which time he will be going to Luxembourg to film a movie. (Mari) I'd bet it is GWAPE. Maybe he's playing the butcher There is that possibility, although I would wonder why his name wasn't in the press release. It is more well-known than any of the others that *were* included. He does seem like the butcher to me. But will he be the only one with an American accent? ;-)

(Karen) But will he be the only one with an American accent? ;-) I thought of that...wonder if this will be another film with a mish-mash of accents.(I'm thinking, "Enemy at the Gates")

OK, I am checking it out now.

Wow! Was that response fast. The answer is no, D'Onofrio is not in GWAPE.

(Karen) Can anyone remember if this is the same hairdresser mentioned, I think, in an Evening Standard item, the one that talked about the curl relaxer? ODB uses curl relaxer?? Say it ain't so! Let those curls free!!!! ;-) (Karen) The answer is no, D'Onofrio is not in GWAPE. Seems Luxembourg has become a hotbed of filming activity. I wonder what project he is working on...and I thought he would have made a great butcher too!

I think, in an Evening Standard item, the one that talked about the curl relaxer? "Potion 9"

Latest inductee to the Drool Hall of Shame This individual took the time from his very important celebrity schedule to write and say he was making a donation to Drool, his favorite fan club. But weeks later, a check has yet to arrive. Much as I hate to do this to such a talented guy and obviously busy person, I feel I must. As the fund-raising drive nears an end (not yet though as I'm waiting for some stragglers), I want to remind people it is not too late to show your appreciation for Drool by making a donation. Every little bit helps insure that Terry will not have to make his monthly appeals or when his property taxes are due. ;-) If I have not personally thanked you by email, then I haven't received your donation or notification of it from Terry. Please contact me at nomdedrool@yahoo.com for instructions or addresses. In addition, I can take Paypal donations myself at my other email address which can expedite things. Thanks again to everyone for their continuing generosity. BTW, this was your Halloween trick. ;-)

Thanks for the great pic Karen. HAPPY HALLOWEEN. I've got a trick and a treat for him.

(Karen)This individual took the time from his very important celebrity schedule to write and say he was making a donation to Drool, his favorite fan club. Surely you jest, Karen. LOL. His favorite fan club? Hahahahahahaha.

(Linda) His favorite fan club? Yes, and he has many. We should feel very honored. ;-)

BTW, this was your Halloween trick. ;-) ROTF, Karen! You almost had me. ;-) Happy Halloween Firthettes! We deserve some candy today. :-) Wow! Was that response fast. The answer is no, D'Onofrio is not in GWAPE. So did you get a complete cast/characters list? (Evelyn), I thought of that...wonder if this will be another film with a mish-mash of accents.( This has also crossed my mind seeing it is such a low budget. NOT AGAIN! :-(

Karen, that picture of MB was the scariest thing I've seen today...I nearly jumped out of my seat! ;-)

Man, these goblins get ungliker every year.;-) Too funny, Karen. Thanks to the gang at the fantasy women's site: there's apparently a double page spread of Colin and familia in the November 6 issue of Now magazine in the UK. Has anyone here seen it?

and "uglier," too. ;-) sheesh

(Mari) Thanks to the gang at the fantasy women's site: there's apparently a double page spread of Colin and familia in the November 6 issue of Now magazine in the UK There is a NOW mag from the UK that is available online, but it looks like Sept is the latest that can be read...

From People News in the UK: Jane Austen is heading to Bollywood. An all-star Bollywood cast are planned for a new film musical version of the quintessential English classic Pride and Prejudice. Gurinder Chadha, who made the box office hit Bend It Like Beckham, and Bhaji On The Beach, will direct the film. 'The film's plot will remain very close to the original story', says Chadha. Instead of Mr Bingley, the movie will have a British Asian character called Balraj who studied at Oxford with his American friend Will Darcy. The Bennett family will become the Bakshi family of India and the action will move from India, the UK and the United States.

The Bollywood item was posted several days ago on O&E (#160). (MariaT) There is a NOW mag from the UK that is available online, but it looks like Sept is the latest that can be read... NOW is a weekly mag. Thanks for the heads-up.

Good God, Karen!.....If that was our Halloween trick, I'm already frightened thinking of what you'll cook up for April Fool's Day. ;-) Very funny, though! Thanks, Mary for the People News. I'm telling ya, I've *got* to see this. Thanks, Karen for checking about D'Onofrio. He could've done an accent if needed I suppose since he said he did one in "Case of Evil". Not vouching for quality as I didn't see it. Think he made a comment about doing the accent in class, but can't remember what he said. Wonder if SJ will do one. Maybe they'll all do some sort of Dutch or pseudo-Dutch accent. Can't remember what a Dutch accent sounds like. I have heard and read Bulgaria is becoming quite the filming location as well. (Mari) there's apparently a double page spread of Colin and familia in the November 6 issue of Now magazine in the UK. Has anyone here seen it? Wish I knew that when I was in the bookstore where I check out Hello mag. Not sure if they carry it, but I'll be sort of near there tomorrow. Will check. Happy Halloween everyone! Be careful if you go out tonight.

Re Bollywood....Always a day late and a dollar short! Thanks, Karen.

(Mary) Always a day late and a dollar short! Ah, but the one on 160 didn't mention the Balraj/Bingley character, and we didn't know the Bennets had become the Bakshis. IMO very welcome information, as the whole strange vision becomes more well-formed in my warped mind.

But has nothing to do with topic.

(Karen) But has nothing to do with topic. Point taken! I forgot where I was. Must be the cold medication. Sorry!

Do we have a Pride & Prejudice Goes To Bombay Topic?;-) Will Darcy, eh? I like it.:-) Thanks, Murph.

(Linda) His favorite fan club? (Karen)Yes, and he has many. We should feel very honored. ;-) And the diet Vanilla Coke flies... What does the goat say?

Going to a news agent in a little while and I will look for the magazine. We get lots of UK publications here, (lots of those little islanders running around these parts. But it might be a litle too early for a Nov. 6th issue. BTW, I've never heard of NOW, please don't say it's like Hello! with posed photos and $$$ to the celebs. Elizabeth, I am going to lodge a formal complaint. We don't have diet Vanilla Coke here, only full strength.

(Elizabeth)What does the goat say? Maybe...if that little MB weasel is a fan of this place, I'll cancel my membership.

(Mari) Do we have a Pride & Prejudice Goes To Bombay Topic?;-) I'm going to have to quote Hattie McDaniel on that one. ;-)

Great Pic Elizabeth. Thanks for info Mary.

(Mari) Do we have a Pride & Prejudice Goes To Bombay Topic?;-) LOL! I expect a great soundtrack. I wonder how many hours it be? ;-) I look forward to seeing those NOW pictures. Has anyone seen it? Can we have more details?

Re Now Magazine Photos: I picked up a copy today. The pictures are lovely, taken in a playpark near his London home. His son certainly seems to have his hair. He's adorable! There's 5 in total, one with LD lovingly kissing him,(CF, that is). I did feel a little guilty intruding in some private family time, but he certainly seems unaffected by the photographer's presence.

Awwww..... (Janet) I did feel a little guilty intruding in some private family time, but he certainly seems unaffected by the photographer's presence. But I assume the photos were taken with his consent and cooperation?

Thanks, Janet! Is it an article or just pictures? The fashion police is waiting. ;-)

I'm going to have to quote Hattie McDaniel on that one. ;-) "Mistah Rhett, you is baaaad!" ;-) Yeah, yeah, it ain't fittin' . . .;-) (Rika)But I assume the photos were taken with his consent and cooperation? No way, these are paparazzi pics. They use telephoto lenses and the subjects never realize they were photographed. He'd never knowingly allow his kids' pics to be published, and is probably livid about this. Having said that, I'm with Janet--feeling slightly guilty, but glad to have seen them.;-).

"Mistah Rhett, you is baaaad!" ;-) Yeah, yeah, it ain't fittin' . . .;-) No, I was thinking along the lines of "not while I got a bref in my body." ;-)

(Mari) Having said that, I'm with Janet--feeling slightly guilty, but glad to have seen them.;-). LOL! Quite right. Hypocrites unite. ;-) But it is another thing to plaster them all over the internet. I'm sure someone will do it, but not moi.

(Moondreams) Thanks, Janet! Is it an article, or just pictures? It's a two-page photospread, with little 'blurbs' about each one.

(Mari) He'd never knowingly allow his kids' pics to be published, and is probably livid about this. Having said that, I'm with Janet--feeling slightly guilty, but glad to have seen them.;-). What about Meg? I saw some photos a while back that were taken of her with Will and David (is that her older boy?) at what looked to be a premiere. I was really surprised because I thought they (Meg and CF) both wanted him to be left out of press pics...they knew the cameras were there (they were on a red carpet, standing in front of a movie poster for the film). Felt a bit guilty looking at it as well (but I will say, although the picture is a bit older, Will is a cutie and looks a lot like his daddy).

(Karen) LOL! Quite right. Hypocrites unite. ;-) But it is another thing to plaster them all over the internet. I'm sure someone will do it, but not moi. I completely agree with you. You don't need to perpetrate it. (Tress)I saw some photos a while back that were taken of her with Will and David (is that her older boy?) at what looked to be a premiere. You're right, Tress, I should have qualified my statement by adding that appearances at "offical" type events (like premieres and polo parties;-) are fair game. The celeb knows there will be press and the photogrpahers are in plain sight, not hiding behind bushes and telephoto lenses. Intruding on private family time is another matter, from the celeb's standpoint.

(Mari) I should have qualified my statement by adding that appearances at "offical" type events (like premieres and polo parties;-) are fair game. Definitely, but you will notice that the official press pics from the polo match were of Colin and Kelly, posed at a table, in the tent. Even when Colin was being interviewed for the morning TV show, Will was nowhere in the shot. In taking Will to the event, he would realize his pic could be taken, but you can see that he doesn't pose with him.

Get ready for WAGW!;-) From an Amanda bynes fansite: "LONDON CALLING" RENAMED "WHAT A GIRL WANTS"; NEW RELEASE DATE IS MARCH 9 Warner Brothers has changed the title and release date of Amanda Bynes' second movie, once called "American Girl", once called "London Calling", and now called "What A Girl Wants". The film will now be released on March 9, the same day as Bruce Willis' new release, "Man of War".

"WHAT A GIRL WANTS"; NEW RELEASE DATE IS MARCH 9 Oh how very nice of them! That will be just in time for my birthday! How very very thoughtful (and JUST what I wanted!)

(Mari) "LONDON CALLING" RENAMED "WHAT A GIRL WANTS"; NEW RELEASE DATE IS MARCH 9 Gawd! Just when I got that riduculous song out of my head......nice to know the new date (need to change vacation schedule with the bossman).

Barb, will you settle for an *early* birthday present? There was a typo at the site and the date is actually March 7. (Tress) Just when I got that riduculous song out of my head London Calling? WAGW is a Christina Aguilera song (which I'm sure you knew). Could have been worse, could have been Britney.;-)

(Mari) London Calling? WAGW is a Christina Aguilera song (which I'm sure you knew). Could have been worse, could have been Britney.;-) I don't mind London Calling....it's WAGW (my husband has the CD in Spanish...I don't even know the words in English). And I can be very thankful it's not Britney (swish...as I wipe my brow). ;-)

(Mari) No way, these are paparazzi pics. They use telephoto lenses and the subjects never realize they were photographed. He'd never knowingly allow his kids' pics to be published, and is probably livid about this. That makes more sense. I haven't seen the photos, but it did seem totally out of character that he'd let Luca be photographed. I forget sometimes that his situation is different across the pond - over here he's not sufficiently well-known for the paparazzi to bother to follow him to a park.

(Mari) Barb, will you settle for an *early* birthday present? There was a typo at the site and the date is actually March 7. (The date was wrong? They messed up? You mean....Oops, they did it again?! ****running away really fast****) That's ok Mari, it was an early present anyway and living in Indiana, it won't be here until the week (or so) after it opens elsewhere anyway.

(Mari) (Rika)But I assume the photos were taken with his consent and cooperation? No way, these are paparazzi pics. They use telephoto lenses and the subjects never realize they were photographed. He'd never knowingly allow his kids' pics to be published, and is probably livid about this. I thought he allowed pics of his son in the English version of the article we got in the spring where he's sitting in his backyard (garden). The article in which Regis makes a deal about the garden shed on the inteview. Are there any captions or quotes with the pics. Doesn't the press have to get a release before the print anything, pics or comments? Just curious. Thanks for info Janet and Mari.

(Barb) it won't be here until the week (or so) after it opens elsewhere anyway. Not true. This one will open v. wide. It is aimed at the megaplex, preteen audience. It will be everywhere, including Indiana, on the same date. No NY/LA first and then 10 more markets. Hard to imagine, huh, girls? Evelyn won't have to fly to Dallas for this one. Sorry, but these titles leave me cold. Could they be more meaningless?

(Karen) Sorry, but these titles leave me cold. Could they be more meaningless? I completely agree...WAGW is very trendy right now (and the trend may be done with by March 7th). It dates the movie. In another two years will anyone pick it up at their local Blockbuster to watch with that title? Why didn't they go with "The Reluctant Debutante" since it was based on that film? Better than AG, LC or WAGW...IMO. ;-)

closing tags...I hope.

(Karen) It will be everywhere, including Indiana Wow, including Indiana? I won't know how to act. (Tress)Why didn't they go with "The Reluctant Debutante" since it was based on that film? Careful, your counter-pop culture predisposition is showing. The idea of a debutante is a trend waaaaay done with...would be meaningless to most today and maybe even distasteful to some. Amazing how the double-entendre of "What a Girl Wants" is not distasteful but the idea of white gloves and high-society might be.

(Barb S) Careful, your counter-pop culture predisposition is showing. The idea of a debutante is a trend waaaaay done with...would be meaningless to most today and maybe even distasteful to some. Oooops...I'd better learn to hide my age better. Although, I have a cousin who 'came out' just three years ago. She was a true Texas deb (and had to learn to do something called 'The Texas Dip' which I won't even begin to explain). She did take a lot of ribbing from her older cousins (me included). Just for the record, I still don't like the title WAGW (LC was the best of the three titles so far, IMO).

Thanks Mary. Feeling guilty still but love the shot on the swing for the tiny hands wrapped around ODB big hands... On the one with the slide, doesn't ODB look very slim though? It reminds me of the Calvin & Hobbes thing when Calvin becomes two-dimensional! :)

Karen) LOL! Quite right. Hypocrites unite. ;-) But it is another thing to plaster them all over the internet. I'm sure someone will do it, but not moi. Thanks Boss...I am sure he appreciates the decorum. I liked "London Calling" best, but I'm sure they are appealing to the teeny set on this one.

Thanks, Murph! (Karen) Sorry, but these titles leave me cold. Could they be more meaningless? I agree. Can't you just see these execs thinking that WAGW is SO brilliant! :-( I liked London Calling too. Plus it's a great song. I'm sick of the other one and I usually listen to college radio because they don't play those types of songs.

I can't believe we have yet another film that can't figure out what it wants to be called, and another opening date that has been pushed back. V.V. annoying. Why don't they wait until GWAPE is finished then all three can open on the same weekend and compete with each other. At which time ODB will (hopefully) be hard at work on TEoR, and will miss all premieres and publicity. Sheesh, sorry, I'm not in a positive mood just now.

Hey, Mary, I had never seen your website before! Love the postcards!!! It's quite nice, I must say. =)

When I said I wouldn't be posting the Now pics at Drool or The Bucket, I thought everyone would understand our policy here. Those kind of pictures are never posted here, nor would there be a link to them. Since many of us are acknowledged hypocrites, we handle such items privately. (Tress)Why didn't they go with "The Reluctant Debutante" since it was based on that film? Because the people who will go to see this movie don't know what a debutante is/was. ;-)

(Tress) Just for the record, I still don't like the title WAGW (LC was the best of the three titles so far, IMO). I agree. Of the three London Calling seems the best. (Karen) Because the people who will go to see this movie don't know what a debutante is/was. ;-) There is no doubt about this. But have to give them the credit for going to the movies and spending the money that is making WAGW a wide screen property therefore letting us see him with ease. Thank goodness. Saw "The Reluctant Debutante" last weekend. It was as good as I remembered it. Sexy Rexy was top notch. Did not know until man who introduced movie said RH had been blackballed from Hollywood until he returned in My Fair Lady on Broadway because an actress he had an affair with committed suicide over him. He was married to Lily Palmer at the time, and apparently both of them left Hollywood. I knew he had a rep with the ladies, but didn't know anyone had committed suicide over him.

(me) Why didn't they go with "The Reluctant Debutante" since it was based on that film? (Karen) Because the people who will go to see this movie don't know what a debutante is/was. ;-) I am a knucklehead...I just accused WAGW (BTW, in Spanish it is 'Una Mujer Quiere Sentir') of being too trendy a name, when "The Reluctant Debutante" is just as dated...I think I will make up my own title...(I'm in denial can you tell? I really dislike WAGW). Now, just what to call it? hmmmm...

(Karen) Because the people who will go to see this movie don't know what a debutante is/was. ;-) Another example of the sad reality of our times. :-( Now, just what to call it? hmmmm... The Parent Trap 3? ;-))))

There seems to be considerable concern over Colin's exposed scalp in the new pics. The area in question looks fairly stable to me. I was recently watching Master of the Moor and, at the beginning, there's a scene where he's been caught in the rain. When his hair is plastered down like that, you can really see how bad the situation is and why it needs to be fluffed up. That shot alone was a real jawdropper and it was from 1994. Also, I think we have an answer to what Colin keeps in his front pocket (his right, our left). It must be a wallet, as the bulge is fairly squarish.

(Moon) The Parent Trap 3? ;-)))) LOL....yeah, but wouldn't Amanda need to be a twin? Speaking of twins, maybe we could consult Mary Kate and Ashley...they are really good at coming up with cheesy titles to preteen/teen flicks (Switching Goals, Winning London, It Takes Two....BTW, I just looked on Amazon, I don't have these titles memorized). ;-) (Karen) There seems to be considerable concern over Colin's exposed scalp in the new pics. The area in question looks fairly stable to me. I think it's very stable. He looks great (and my fantasy of having his head shaved down to 1/4' looks like it will be sometime off in the future...*sigh* (I know everyone else is relieved, I just can't help myself)). :-) (Karen) Also, I think we have an answer to what Colin keeps in his front pocket (his right, our left). It must be a wallet, as the bulge is fairly squarish. It looked pretty thick to me...I thought ciggies when I saw it...

(Karen) There seems to be considerable concern over Colin's exposed scalp in the new pics. The area in question looks fairly stable to me. I thought so too. Maybe it's a case of comparison with some other photos where he's been worked on by a stylist first. Anyway, I thought he looked wonderful.

(Karen) Also, I think we have an answer to what Colin keeps in his front pocket (his right, our left). It must be a wallet, as the bulge is fairly squarish. Someone should tell him to carry it in his back pocket. Most men do. It's distracting.

(Karen) There seems to be considerable concern over Colin's exposed scalp in the new pics. That's funny! I thought I was the only one who noticed. I think we have an answer to what Colin keeps in his front pocket (his right, our left). It must be a wallet, as the bulge is fairly squarish. I thought I was the only one to check that out, too. ;-D (Tress) I thought ciggies when I saw it Ooooh, bite your tongue! ;-) I hope he doesn't go back to that no matter how great he looks smoking and holding a ciggie. I'm not too keen on that name change either. It's quite odd actually considering the subject. Don't like the double entendre possibilities. So if the dates hold, he'll have 2 movies out within a month. Imagine he'll do the majority of the PR for Hope Springs, if there is much to begin with. Was thinking HGm and MD would do a bit, but he is the lead.

Not only does the title not make any sense to me, if you read the lyrics, it will only increase your confusion. I know this movie is NOT aimed at the Colin audience, so the use of a Christina Aguilera song title seems rather smart on their part. But "what a girl wants" doesn't seem to support the story, as other songs might do. Read for yourselves: http://www.allstarz.org/~christina/lyrics/girl.html

(Karen) I know this movie is NOT aimed at the Colin audience, so the use of a Christina Aguilera song title seems rather smart on their part. It's a good choice for the targeted audience, though if this particular audience isn't thrilled with her new image, it may not be so good a choice. Still, I agree that it is more confusing after reading some of the lyrics. Focus will be on her and a boyfriend she picks up in England. Maybe he won't be in it much at all.

Oops, meant to say that *maybe* the focus will be on her and a new boyfriend. Or who knows, maybe an old one.

I just got home from the spending the day with Tanja, drooler from Germany. I greeted her with her own copy of Now magazine, which I bought yesterday and also had those guilty feelings looking at. I didn't even want her to open it in public at first! She also commented right away on hair loss, funnily enough. We did a bit of a walk around Islington - for me, this is a bit tricky. At what point do you become a scary fan? I mean, I guess if I had no sense of boundaries I could be there every day - it's only a few tube stops away. But I don't want to be that person. But then a little part of me likes the idea of shopping at that Sainsbury's for a potential chance encounter. And then, of course, how would I even act? Loss of decency if you do anything but pretend you are passing by any other person/family. I feel lucky that no potential situations like this have arisen. We were in the right neighbourhood - but it was just nice to walk around, chat, look at nice houses, see the fall foliage, etc. It's like having two personalities though - the one that wants to find him, and the one that insists on staying away for god's sake! Except public appearances, but of course. The nicest part was that I got to take someone, finally, to see some BJD landmarks instead of enjoying them by myself. Ended the afternoon with some quick shopping - glad to have met you Tanja, when you get home and read this!

Hey...Nov 7, 2003 is a looong way off. When they start showing that film to the focus groups, they might change the title again. Who knows...there might be a better song title by then.

(Evelyn) Hey...Nov 7, 2003 is a looong way off... You mean March, right? Nov 7 is LA I think. That didn't change too, did it? And you're right, they could change it 10 times by then. Just saw a movie in my class a couple of weeks ago, who's name changed 3 weeks before release. Not a drastic change. It's a small movie anyway, no one would notice.

I think this is a first! MLSF will be on television. But you're going to have to get up early. ;-) Here are the details: Mon Nov 11 08:00A COME- Comedy Central [Eastern time]

Portrait of the week at the Guardian - Vermee's GWAPE http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/portrait

(Dorine) I thought I was the only one to check that out, too. ;-D Silly! You know we all peeked!! ;-) (Dorine) Ooooh, bite your tongue! ;-) I hope he doesn't go back to that no matter how great he looks smoking and holding a ciggie. I know, I know...I don't want him to do it either. Just thought it looked like a pack due to the thickness (though his front pocket is a bad place to keep them as they would bend if he sat down). Still too thick for a Palm Pilot. Maybe Karen is right, it's his wallet and he just has wads of cash from all money he's getting to do GWAPE... ;-)

I was watching Spiderman the other day and the credits came on and one thing in particular caught my eye.....one of the names was William Firth for boy on tram. Could this be CF's son or just coincidence. That would be funny if it was his son and he got the acting bug as well. Here'e the link to IMDB. I had to make sure what i saw was correct. http://us.imdb.com/Credits?0145487

Sarah, it is indeed CF's son, William. He's the little dark haired boy wearing a ballcap in the tram scene. He looks remarkably like Meg, except that he has eyes that are very much like ODB's. (Emma) It's like having two personalities though - the one that wants to find him, and the one that insists on staying away for god's sake! (laughing merrily) Has anyone told you lately that you're completely adorable? Your comments are soooo funny. I'm still chuckling, here, at my desk. You know, though, Emma... none of us would think ANY LESS of you if you do happen to take a few tube stops past your own from time to time. I know that if I lived that nearby our precious boy it would only be a matter of time before I would make an appearance on the evening newscast. (giggling)

(Dorine)That's funny! I thought I was the only one who noticed. I noticed, too. Funny though, I thought of you because of the TIOBE premiere, I think you mentioned the thinning at the top since you were standing on the flower pot, towering over him. As soon as I saw it, I remembered your comment. (Evelyn)Someone should tell him to carry it in his back pocket. Most men do. It's distracting. I'm always distracted-at least the wallet/cell phone/ciggies? give me an excuse to peek.

(Emma) And then, of course, how would I even act? Loss of decency if you do anything but pretend you are passing by any other person/family. If it were me, I'd probably turn bright red, pee on the floor, and then pass out! I guess it's a good thing I'm not the one who lives just a few tube stops away!!

Go for it Emma. Once you've had an encounter the split personalities will disappear and you'll be one again. Of course we know you'll behave with absolute decorum, but this is a must. To be so close and yet so far is unacceptable. You must see him.

Emma, I understand completely how you feel. I'm glad, I think(?), that I'm separated by an ocean to keep me grounded. But if I did live that close, I think I'd have to shop there. Not sure I could stay away. I'm also quite sure I'd never have the nerve to say anything at all. Just stand there dumbfounded and looking incredibly stupid I'm afraid. Drooling no doubt. Again I must be thankful for that ocean so I can hang on to the pretense of having a few iq points and maybe a life... Or not.

This woman who writes a column for a Dr Quinn, Medicine Woman, website had contacted me about using a graphic of Frank Collison/Fisher from my Hope Springs page. She had gone to interview FC and he had given her several of the sketches of him that had been done for the film. She revised the graphic to show Colin Ware's new drawing style. This is what it looks like: In addition, here's what FC had to say about the experience of working on HS: There are two things I am very excited about. I did a movie outside of Vancouver in a small town called Hope, British Columbia. The movie was originally called "New Cardiff" and stars Collin Firth, Minnie Driver, Mary Steenburgen, and Heather Graham. It's really a terrific fish out of water story. I play Mary Steenburgen's husband. The movie is now re-titled "Hope Springs" and is due out in the fall of 2002. I think it's going to be a wonderful romantic comedy and will do very well. It was a thrill to get to work with Mary and do our New England accents together....We were in a very small town and we got to hang out together as there was nothing else to do. Heather Graham and Mary Steenburgen were our social directors. One night they arranged a karaoke night, another night we went bowling, and then another night we went out to a restaurant. There's an interesting story about this and it's not to toot my own horn. It's really to show the power of television and "Dr. Quinn". We were all in the restaurant toge her: Colin Firth who had very recently done the role in Bridget Jones, Minnie Driver, Heather Graham, Mary Steenburgen and me. A young woman comes up, in her mid 20s, and asks for Minnie's autograph because she had just been in something recent. Then she turns to me and asks for my autograph from "Dr. Quinn", doesn't even recognize the other actors. I was sort of embarrassed. Afterwards, I said, "hey what can I say, I was on television for 6 years". If you have been on television for 6 years, a lot of people have seen your face week in and week out and it kind of sticks in their heads. They may not remember your name or even exactly the character you played, but you come into their home on a weekly basis. It was kind of instructive how powerful the medium of television is. [Note: This interview took place in Feb 2002]

Thanks, Karen - very interesting. Collison makes a good point, too - even though in the US there's often a sense that film stars are on a higher plane than TV stars, the repeated exposure on TV does make a difference.

Jeanie, I don't get called completely adorable too often! :-) If I was in Toronto right now, I would be saying "gee I wish I had your problems, London girl." Now I am here and wishing for the safety of that ocean! I'm sure I'll get over my dilemma eventually. Got that celebrity appetite somewhat fulfilled today at the Harry Potter premiere - OT except I was most excited to see Gemma Jones and Shirley Henderson (from very far away). Ever since Earnest, I am apparently addicted to standing behind barricades straining my neck for sightings!

(Emma) OT except I was most excited to see Gemma Jones and Shirley Henderson (from very far away). Yes, Emma, that's only one degree of separation, just like me seeing MEM yesterday!

Karen, I think that's the same article some of us were commenting on a couple of weeks ago. At that time I think some of us were rather amused by the thought of ODB singing "Folsom Prison Blues" with "Washington Bartholomew Hogwallop" at a karaoke bar. (laughing) I truly enjoyed his role in "O'Brother", and if any of you haven't seen the movie, then I urge you to do so. He's an odd looking cracker, isn't he? However, he appears to be a very good character actor and an all around nice guy. =) I've noticed that another actor from that movie, Tim Blake Nelson (Delmar O'Donnell) is getting a huge amount of publicity for his direction in the new movie "The Grey Zone", which isn't showing here. If any of you get to see it, please drop me a line and let me know what you thought. Thanks!

Thanks for interview Karen. Although I can't believe a breathing woman would not have asked CF for his autograph, even if she didn't recognize him. Emma thanks for report on Harry Potter opening. Did you by any chance get a glimpse of KB. I saw on tonight's news that he was there.

Please check subject line above for the topic. No HP or KB here. If you are going to ask questions about another actor, please use that actor's topic here at Drool.

The Harry Potter Topic is: www.spring.net/yapp-bin/movies/51 It hasn't been active in a year. Though I notice that Marianne did post there last week. Thanks,Marianne.We'll all be there once the film opens.There are lots of other actor topics that a few of us post news on. Come join us.

A while back it was mentioned that we may do a GWAPE book discussion (hope this is an okay topic to post this question). Are we still going to do that? I know a number of people did not want to begin until late in November...

I believe you're right, Tress. The discussion should begin at the end of November.

(Moon)The discussion should begin at the end of November. The consensus was they didn't want to start discussing the book til Colin started shooting the film.

So could we start on November 18, then, to celebrate the start of shooting?

Yes, let's celebrate GWAPE filming with the discussion, please. I've been eagerly waiting for this.

(the boss) Please check subject line above for the topic. No HP or KB here. If you are going to ask questions about another actor, please use that actor's topic here at Drool. You Thread Nazi, you! (running away and hiding behind the sofa)

Camille will be on Women's Entertainment channel tomorrow at 4 P.M. Eastern Time (I hope this is the right topic for this)

The Sun newspaper reports that Colin Firth and David Duchovny are tipped to star in a re-make film version of "The Persuaders" (the old TV series with Roger Moore/Tony Curtis)

Thanks, Bethan. Keep an eye out for Baz. I don't recall that old TV series with RM and TC. Does anyone? I didn't even know TC had a TV series.

A googled and got: It might be a British series. Does anyone know it?

Well *that's* an interesting combination. Is this a drama? A drama with comedic moments? Action a la "The Avengers"? I really like David Duchovny depending on what he's in. Does anyone watch that new Bonnie Hunt show? He was a guest on there once.....V. funny. Thanks, Bethan.

It sounds like an "I Spy" copy from the little I have read. Go here: http://epguides.com/Persuaders/guide.shtml

It was a British series (I think), but must have been shown in the US. Roger Moore played Lord Brett Sinclair, Brit aristo, Tony Curtis was a streetwise Noo-Yorker. They got involved in various capers/crime busting etc. All good fun. Very entertaining, very tongue in cheek.

IMDb:"English Lord Brett Sinclair and American Danny Wilde are both wealthy playboys, they are teamed together by Judge Fullton to investigate crimes which the police can't solve. These two men are complete opposites, but become great friends through their adventures and constantly risk their own lives for one another." Sounds like an action movie. A poor man's James Bond. I like Colin as an Brit aristo; a straight Peter Marshwood.

Suddenly I feel very old. I remember watching the series. It was very sexy for the times. Funny and exciting. This could be yummy but then I thought the Avengers was going to be good :-)

(Evelyn) Sounds like an action movie. A poor man's James Bond. But different from Bond because of the buddy angle, which could be fun. This sounds interesting, and Duchovny would raise its profile in the U.S. Of course there's a long distance between "tipped" and "actually gonna happen"....

Re The Persuaders I remember this series from my youth. The plots were pretty weak, but the locations were great and it was all pretty good escapist fun. I saw an interview with Tony Curtis a while back, where he commented that he had a ball making the series. I think it has the potential to be a winner. - I hope it comes off. -Cos I don't think he'll ever be James Bond, anyway.

No complaints against Duchovny (will there be a Yank/Brit angle?), but I can't help but think this would be perfect for CF and queen Rupert. I'd really like to see them do something else together. Sadly, wouldn't be nearly as marketable...

(Elizabeth)Cos I don't think he'll ever be James Bond, anyway. At least not for the next two years, PB just agreed to do a 5th Bond.

Elizabeth, I was thinking about it as a Colin/Rupert vehicle too. But the description of the series on IMDB did specify that it was one Yank and one Brit, and that might help it to have transcontinental appeal.

Thanks for this, Bethan. I like the sound of it. Action/adventure would be a real departure for Colin; he's never done that genre, and this would give him a chance to break out of the rom-coms and the art houses. It could be fun, and I do enjoy a buddy movie now and then. I'm thinking fast cars, I'm thinking fast women, I'm thinking roulette tables in Monte Carlo . . . works for me!:-) BTW, if the series was early '70s, then it was probably responsible for Moore getting the Bond role. I say ix-nay on Rupert--Duchovny has a worldwide following thanks to The X-Files (not just the U.S. either) and unless I'm reading the premise wrong, the story is about 2 guys who are ostensibly *opposites.* Let's see what develops, but I think this has potential.

(Elizabeth) No complaints against Duchovny (will there be a Yank/Brit angle?), but I can't help but think this would be perfect for CF and queen Rupert. After reading the premise above about the show, GC came to mind first, instead of DD. I think he has the playfulness like TOny Curtis used to have. I like Rupert, also. (Brenda) but then I thought the Avengers was going to be good :-) LOL, so did I. (Elizabeth) Sadly, wouldn't be nearly as marketable I would think the premise itself would be more marketable than TIOBE. Also, Duchovny isn't that bankable. That movie with MD did OK, but other than X-Files, what has he done to make him so marketable. I like him, but don't think he'd necessarily be a big draw. (Mari) I'm thinking fast cars, I'm thinking fast women, I'm thinking roulette tables in Monte Carlo . . . works for me!:-) I agree. Think it could be a lot of fun!

I remember the original series. It was very good, very entertaining. Very early 70's, very humorous and just the right amount of eye-candy. Roger Moore for me and Tony Curtis for the older generation as he was beginning to get along in years bye that time. IMO it worked well because Moore and Curtis were of equal status and maketablilty. I liked and knew them both. I think it worked because one was not more famous than the other. If CF is paired with GC for example, you've got one more famous than the other and drawing away from the lesser known. DD is comprable. X-files was a world-wide hit. He's known. I think this would be great for CF. I always wished he would do a roll like this. IMO its tailor-made for him. Would like to see him with Rupert again but they are not different enough for this series. If they decide to go with a very famous Yank they may decide to upgrade the Brit and go for someone highly marketable like (yikes) HG. So DD is a good match, or how about Sylvester Stalone, now that would be about as opposite as you could get, not a bad match the more I think about it, or is Arnold S available. But does he look that good in a suit. Does look good in a tux though. Really hope this project works out at I think it would really be a good one for CF. Too early for candles yet.

(Dorine), Duchovny isn't that bankable. That movie with MD did OK, but other than X-Files, what has he done to make him so marketable. I like him, but don't think he'd necessarily be a big draw. After reading the premise above about the show, GC came to mind first, instead of DD. I agree! I like the idea of GC with ODB. (Mari), BTW, if the series was early '70s, then it was probably responsible for Moore getting the Bond role. Good point. And at least Colin would be wearing the dapper suits(lets hope they get the collars right). ;-) This could be the start of something big.

(Dorine), Duchovny isn't that bankable. That movie with MD did OK, but other than X-Files, what has he done to make him so marketable. I like him, but don't think he'd necessarily be a big draw. I like Duchovny, but he definitely is not in the same league acting-wise as ODB...He has a certain charm but it is rather like a delicious champagne that has lost most of it's fizz (I tend to use alot of wine analogies, now why would that be?)

(Pam) DD is comprable. X-files was a world-wide hit. He's known I wasn't saying people don't know him, I'm just saying he may not fill seats as easily as others on his name (and previous credits) alone.

Here is the Guardian's story form October on the remake. No mention of stars: http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,807595,00.html And here is a page on the original: http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/persuade.htm

(Murph) Here is the Guardian's story form October on the remake. No mention of stars... Murph, they say they were planning a series? Sounds like they changed their minds already...can you imagine ODB in a series? Good Gawd! There would be lock-down at my house. No incoming phone calls, no visitors...I much prefer a film though. I like DD (am a big X-File fan), but this sounds more campy than Bond-like, and I agree with some that GC would be really good at this. I don't think DD is good at camp....Rupert is too English, IMO, and they need only one (and I vote for ODB)!! Am not going to get too excited though until I hear that there has been something signed. Still, it could be a lot of fun!!

I haven't seen the article in the Sun, but I wonder if it's based on a news item in this week's TV Times, which says that ITV1 is planning to make a new TV series of The Persuaders, not a film. Casting hasn't yet started, but it's expected the leads will be a Brit and an American, either 2 men or a man and a woman. The writer of the article then came up with his own casting suggestions - Greg Wise, CF or Joely Richardson for the Brit, David D, Bruce Willis, Calista Flockhart or Geena Davis for the American. As far as I can see, these are just some (very) wild guesses on his part.

I remember watching the series. It was very sexy for the times. Funny and exciting. I was a teenager when it was on a German channel and watched it as often as I could. I loved the funny dialogue. I'm thinking fast cars, I'm thinking fast women, I'm thinking roulette tables in Monte Carlo . . . works for me!:-) That's what I remember of the series.

(Tress) can you imagine ODB in a series? Good Gawd! There would be lock-down at my house. No incoming phone calls, no visitors...I much prefer a film though. Complete lock-down at my place, too. No way to keep my Firthette status a secret! I don't see how they would be able to do a series w/ DD & CF, tho. Where would they shoot it? Can't imagine one would leave home for months at a time for filming. Hoping for a movie...

The writer of the article then came up with his own casting suggestions - Greg Wise, CF or Joely Richardson for the Brit, David D, Bruce Willis, Calista Flockhart or Geena Davis for the American. As far as I can see, these are just some (very) wild guesses on his part. Think this must be the origin of the Sun "story", which means it's just conjecture, no substance! And if it's a TV series, can't see CF going for it. But I do remember reading (about the time that BJD came out) that Hugh Grant and Nic Cage were to do a movie re-make of the Persuaders. Definitely a movie!

(Barbara)..Greg Wise, CF or Joely Richardson for the Brit, David D, Bruce Willis, Calista Flockhart or Geena Davis for the American. As far as I can see, these are just some (very) wild guesses on his part. TV series? Colin? Bruce Willis? Sounds like (very)*wishful-thinking* to me.

Sounds like one big rumour. I thnk we can file that one. It was fun while it lasted. ;-)

(Evelyn) TV series? Colin? Bruce Willis? Sounds like (very)*wishful-thinking* to me. (Moon) Sounds like one big rumour. I thnk we can file that one. It was fun while it lasted. ;-) I agree...not sure this will actually happen. It would be a fun movie (with the right cast), but it still sounds WAY too up in the air right now...I'm still too anxious about TEoR to think about "The Persuaders" (still want "The Dead Wait" to happen as well...anyone heard anything else on that one???). BTW, 6 more days 'til TIOBE (it's better than the holidays for me)...I'm looking foward to the "behind the scenes" goodies and director's commentary! Doesn't look like there are any outtakes... :-(

(Moon) Sounds like one big rumour. I thnk we can file that one. Looks that way. Too bad. (Tress) BTW, 6 more days 'til TIOBE (it's better than the holidays for me)...I'm looking foward to the "behind the scenes" goodies and director's commentary! I know! I keep compulsively checking Amazon to make sure my shipment is still on schedule, as though somehow that's going to make it arrive sooner.

I told my husband about The Persuaders rumor, and he said, re two guys he considers reticent actors, "Great! They'd both be standing there waiting for the other to speak."

(Rika) I keep compulsively checking Amazon to make sure my shipment is still on schedule, as though somehow that's going to make it arrive sooner Like pushing the elevator button. ;-) (Barbara)..Greg Wise, CF or Joely Richardson for the Brit, David D, Bruce Willis, Calista Flockhart or Geena Davis for the American. As far as I can see, these are just some (very) wild guesses on his part. What a group. Having a *very* hard time imagining Calista Flockhart in something like this. Even for fantasy casting, an odd choice to throw out.

(Murph)I told my husband about The Persuaders rumor, and he said, re two guys he considers reticent actors, "Great! They'd both be standing there waiting for the other to speak." LOL, too funny, Mary! Leave it to Joe Murphy. I actually was sort of thinking the same thing: "Scully . . . there's something out there." Yeah, and I think it's your pulse, Dave, go find it.;-)

I wish I could remember this series. The name rings a bell, but that's about it. From what I've read here, sounds perfect for ODB.

(lindak)I wish I could remember this series. I don't know where you're from but it played in France under the title "Amicalement votre" (Friendly yours). They were like millionaire P.I.s but sometimes a case would just land on them ... literally: there was one episode where they were camping; Tony Curtis's character was roughing it out in the tent with a campfire while Lord Brett Sinclair (Roger Moore) had brought in a fully accessorized motorhome; then a parachutist lands in a field and gives the briefcase (with handcuffs) to Tony Curtis and dies. Etc... Is the bell ringing still lindak?

Karen, I wanted to thank you for the new photo on the main page from after Halloween......the LE one was giving me nightmares. I don't know if I'm out of topic, I've been so busy these last few weeks I'm totally confused still.

A question to throw out there (and I hope it belongs here) -- Do you think Colin has grown as an actor over the years? I was thinking today that, IMO, his best role was Tumbledown many years ago. Outside of AZ, SIL and Conspiracy, has he been as challenged since?

Good question Mary. Think it belongs on 165. Will answer you there.

Sorry Mary, I mean't 166 and answered over there.

Thanks. I'll move it over there. Karen, can you delete here? :)

A reminder for those in the US: MLSF is on Comedy Central Monday morning at 8. Also, I've been sifting through the Sunday newspaper ads and it looks like Target has the best price on the TIOBE DVD: $15.99.

(Mari) ...and it looks like Target has the best price on the TIOBE DVD: $15.99. Thanks Mari! I don't get the Sunday ad inserts, so I'm glad someone is looking out for me! I usually go through Amazon to get DVDs, but am so impatient about this one that I am getting it on Tuesday (so I don't have to wait for shipping)!!

Amazon has it for $22.49 but they said they shipped it Saturday so I hope to get it Tuesday anyway! :) plus you can support Spring with Amazon with the /spring-20 thing (see the boutique)

(Odile) plus you can support Spring with Amazon with the /spring-20 thing (see the boutique) I know this is the wrong place to ask this question, but can we use the spring thingie for any Amazon purchase? I buy tons of stuff (non-CF related) there. If so, I could be doing this every time I make a purchase?

tress, I tried to use email since it's not CF news but it didn't work. From the Bucket's boutique page it says you can use it for any purchase; you look up the item you want then you go and erase everything in the url after the ABIN000894/ and add spring-20/ then hit enter; now you can add it to your cart and spring will get a cut. Note: when I said ABIN000894 these were random letters and numbers on my part; the letters stand for the type of item you're getting (book, DVD, CD,...) and the numbers for the specific call number of theirs for the item you chose. When you hit enter after the spring-20/ it will add automatically some more characters that characterize your order (whatever :) ) Hope this helps! Have a good evening (or morning depending on where you are :0 )!

So, has anyone watched the TIOBE DVD yet? What's the scoop on the extras? I saw on one review site that there are 2 featurettes, one 14 minutes long, the other 7 minutes long. And, of course, the obligatory director's commentary track.

My husband picked it up for me and it was waiting for me when I went home for lunch. (He's so patient with my obsession.) There are two extra bits. The first has some nice shots of him and two (I believe) quick comments by him on the movie. They show him preparing a shot, (when Algy first gets to the country house and is refusing to answer to the name Algy) and then the finished shot. A number of shots of him in the beginning with the ciggy in the holder hanging out of his mouth and a sh-- eating grin on his face. Absolutely adorable. He looks great in the interview shots as well. Well, face it, when doesn't he look great. The second bit is mostly RE and RW's scenes. Rather frustrating. Still, we take what we can get...

I got it this morning, but won't be able to see it until very late tonight :( And Mari, wanted to give you a big *Thank You* (but wasn't sure where to post it ;)) for putting out the heads-up on the sale at Target. I ordered it online and will now refuse shipment so it will go back. That's a phenomenal price by comparison. Cheapest I found online was around $21 or $22 w/o shipping (and I see they actually dropped the price a bit since I ordered it).

Okay, I ran out at lunch and bought TIOBE...I then raced home to watch a few minutes. It is playing in the background, so I will be a bit distracted. I love the 'Making Of' featurette so far....ODB has a hair clip in! It's very funny and he seems completely fine with the fact that it's there. It's holding a curl in place I believe. Also, his pants are soooo baggy in the butt! I don't remember that in the movie (will watch it again tonight for a closer inspection). The hairclip scene is when he is at his country home and is calling after 'Algy' (who doesn't answer him until he says 'Earnest'). Like Meg says, there are some great shots of him with ciggie as well...and that smile! Ohhh, I'll stop rambling, you guys will all see it! I'm gonna go watch some more...TTFN ;-)

(Dorine) And Mari, wanted to give you a big *Thank You* (but wasn't sure where to post it ;)) for putting out the heads-up on the sale at Target. Ah, my favorite place...found it today for 15.99 at Target. Can hardly wait. Have not opened it yet. Kinda fun thing, I'm doing the Netflix thing, the 1952 TIOBE should be on its way to me, I'll get to compare. Oh, but only after seeing the current one enough to be indelibly printed on my mind. Got to keep priorities straight.

(Barb) Ah, my favorite place...found it today for 15.99 at Target. Can hardly wait. Have not opened it yet. Kinda fun thing, I'm doing the Netflix thing, the 1952 TIOBE should be on its way to me, I'll get to compare. Did they also have the VHS version for sale Barb? If so, how much? I'm waiting for my DVD any day now but was curious about the VHS. I saw the 1952 version and taped it from TV. Very well acted and true Wilde play version. I prefer the movie, but this was great for its time. So you'll find them completely different in style, which is a good thing.

Pam, I did not see (or look for) the VHS version, so I don't know.

Just a quick few comments about the DVD. Only saw a little as I fell asleep watching it. I must say the extras surprised me. On the Behind the Scenes section, thought it was funny there was no commentary. It was like watching home movies on the set. Too little of Colin and too much of RE and RW running around. And in "The Making of" part, what *was* the deal with the clip in Colin's hair? LOL! Tried to convince myself it was a pen, to no avail. Funny scene though. The Director's Commentary surprised me, too. I thought it would be more like the Behind the Screen show where he talks for 10 mins or so about the movie as opposed to a running commentary while the movie itself is playing out. Only got up to the interview with Jack and Lady Bracknell. Was funny, was dozing at the end of it, just as she's about to ring the bell, and I think he makes a comment on the flowers and says it looks like Kew Gardens. That woke me up because I thought I was dreaming full stop and he was talking to me about where I live (the name of my section of Queens is Kew Gardens). Silly me! ;-) Thought it interesting that as the commentary begins, it seems he's almost whispering like he's in a movie theater with other people. He seems to get a bit louder as it progresses. That was all I got to see before I zonked out.

(Dorine) I must say the extras surprised me. On the Behind the Scenes section, thought it was funny there was no commentary. It was like watching home movies on the set. Too little of Colin and too much of RE and RW running around. My thoughts exactly!! Where were the Colin scenes?! I did find it amusing for some reason though that they included Miss Prism running through the cemetary and fainting dead away a few times..She was looking rather ragged after the last one...I found it thrilling to watch ODB at work, working through the scene, I just wanted more more more!! And now for not a very little bit of gushism... He was absolutely adorable with so many charming expressions my dvd was smoking from overuse of the zoom and frame by frame!! The way he looks in the spectacles and his stern manner which then morphs into his city boy persona where the dimples made their entrance..They should be registered as lethal weapons!I tried just a few minutes of the directors commentary but then I voted against it, I could'nt bear to have him talking over the top of ODB, at least not until I have viewed it multiple times uninterrupted...

(Dorine) And in "The Making of" part, what *was* the deal with the clip in Colin's hair? LOL! Tried to convince myself it was a pen, to no avail. Funny scene though. I just loved the hair clip thing! It was adorable. He was rehearsing and seemed so oblivious to it (and it looked so funny). (Dorine) Thought it interesting that as the commentary begins, it seems he's almost whispering like he's in a movie theater with other people. He seems to get a bit louder as it progresses. I only started the commentary when ODB comes back to the country in his mourning clothes...Mr. Parker was something! At times he was very clear and spoke in a normal tone, then he would begin to mumble and trail off...(so the commentary comes and goes through the film it sounds like, since Dorine said the same about the beginning of the movie)...it was tough to listen to because you would hear..."then Colin said....klfkdfkladk....mlkflsdka...." Huh???? Speak up! ;-) (MariaT) He was absolutely adorable with so many charming expressions my dvd was smoking from overuse of the zoom and frame by frame!! My DVD player was overheating as well (and so was I). ODB's dimples are in overdrive in this movie! So many good smirks (like the cigarette case scene), walking down the street when he first gets to London, at the Savoy...when Algy is accosted at the house about his debts. Love the proposal scene (every expression on his face is priceless) and laugh so hard at the interview with Lady Bracknell. Fighting over muffins! I didn't finish the movie last night so I know I still have the credits to look forward to! A couple of things though (since I wasn't around for the film discussion on this one)...I'm not crazy about RW's accent. It annoys me a bit. Don't know if others feel the same way. Also, am not crazy about the fantasy scenes. I don't mind the tattooing or the other added things, but for some reason, Cecily's daydreams bother me (it might be seeing RE in armor...don't know)! ;-) But, ODB is perfection! The DH was clearly annoyed! He was complaining first that I had just seen this film with him at the theatre...then that I kept pausing it and going back..then I switched on the commentary...(at this point he went out to the garage to work on his canoe, he just couldn't take it anymore), then when he came back in, I stopped the movie (it was 11ish) and he said, "what'd you do that for?? I was gonna finish watching it with you." Gaaahh!

(Tress) The DH was clearly annoyed! He was complaining first that I had just seen this film with him at the theatre...then that I kept pausing it and going back..then I switched on the commentary...(at this point he went out to the garage to work on his canoe, he just couldn't take it anymore), then when he came back in, I stopped the movie (it was 11ish) and he said, "what'd you do that for?? I was gonna finish watching it with you." Gaaahh! Tress, there is no winning with the DH's...Mine has taken to making these incredibly annoying Carey Grant type "Hello's" whilst holding his nose to make it more nasal...which makes me want to recess further into hiding it all from him...Although, the other night when my parents were visiting from out of town and I knew BJD was on at 8...at 8:20 we all plopped in front of the tv, I casually started flicking through channels, knowing full well what channel it was on but I has to take it slow and easy and make it seem a coincidence when I found it. My DH groaned when I stopped on it, my mom loved it and I even saw my DH smile a few times...begrudgingly though...

(Tress) The DH was clearly annoyed.........and he said, "what'd you do that for?? I was gonna finish watching it with you." Gaaahh! Yeah, they're so cute when they're jealous, aren't they? :-) Now I'm wishing I hadn't pre-ordered my DVD because IT'S NOT HERE YET!!!!!!!

Rika, I hope it arrvies soon because we need a capture of the hair clip bit!;-) I liked the Making Of featurette very much--cast interviews, showing them rehearse, I just wish it were longer. There's a neat bit where they intercut the rehearsal of a scene with the way it wound up in the final movie. It's where Jack is at the dining room table and gets Gwendolyn's note then calls after Algy. Colin looks so happy and satisfied when the director calls cut and praises them for the scene. The Behind the Scenes feature is bizarre, as Dorine indicated. No commentary, just footage of scenes being shot. Adds nothing. How many times can one see Miss Prism faint?;-) Some interesting tidbits on the Director's commentary. The scene prior to Jack's interview with Lady B where they are photographing him with the bulbs shooting off in his face was Judi Dench's idea. Rupie apparently ad libbed some lines, and the bit where Algy smacks Jack on the butt was Rupe's improv as well. Parker mentions this being written up in the National Enquirer. The film itself looks gorgeous, the colors really pop out at you, a good job with the transfer.

Oh God I'm so jealous. Mine didn't come yet. Can't wait.

(Rika) Now I'm wishing I hadn't pre-ordered my DVD because IT'S NOT HERE YET!!!!!!! Just do what I did, pick it up at Target (or wherever) and refuse the shipment when it comes. That's what I did....well half of that, as my shipment didn't arrive either yet. I alerted Amazon.com that I would be refusing it and they will credit me when it returns. (Mari) Rika, I hope it arrvies soon because we need a capture of the hair clip bit!;-) LOL! It was cute. There's a neat bit where they intercut the rehearsal of a scene with the way it wound up in the final movie. It's where Jack is at the dining room table and gets Gwendolyn's note then calls after Algy. That stood out to me as well. I thought partially because it's one of my favorite little bits, esp when they mirror each other in the doorway. I wish they had shown more things that way. (Maria) I casually started flicking through channels, knowing full well what channel it was on but I has to take it slow and easy and make it seem a coincidence when I found it. LOL! V.v. clever girl! The Behind the Scenes feature is bizarre, as Dorine indicated. No commentary, just footage of scenes being shot. Adds nothing And what was also odd about it, was that sometimes you could hear what the actors were saying, occasionally being picked up on a mic.....then other times, like with Prism and Chausuble (sp?), you couldn't hear them at all. And several of those scenes weren't in the movie. Would've liked to know why? And what was happening. Rupie apparently ad libbed some lines, and the bit where Algy smacks Jack on the butt was Rupe's improv as well. Parker mentions this being written up in the National Enquirer There was supposedly an ad lib where Rupe kissed Colin as well in addition to a hug. Was thinking it had been where Algy shows up after Jack returns with the urn. After they made up, it looked like Jack had pushed off Algy after hugging him, but it was cut so closely, hard to tell. Colin had one of those looks on his face there as he did after Rupe slapped him on the butt at the end. (Tress) since I wasn't around for the film discussion on this one We didn't really have a comprehensive discussion about this one. Would be great to have one once everyone gets to watch their DVD's and videos a few hundred times. We're supposed to be having a GWAPE discussion starting soon (next week or two?) aren't we? We could do GWAPE, then maybe after the holidays do TIOBE? I'm not crazy about RW's accent. It annoys me a bit. Don't know if others feel the same way. I wasn't enamored of it either. She didn't seem relaxed with it. Also, am not crazy about the fantasy scenes. I didn't mind the first couple, but by the end I'd had enough of them. ;)

(Dorine)There was supposedly an ad lib where Rupe kissed Colin as well in addition to a hug. Parker doesn't mention the kiss when he talks about the butt smack, so I'm wondering if it was just an embellishment by the Enquirer, that font of truth.;-) (Tress) I'm not crazy about RW's accent. It annoys me a bit. Don't know if others feel the same way. Parker praises it on the director's commentary, as Rupie did while promoting the film. Since they're English and I'm not, I'll defer to their judgement.;-) On the Director's commentary, Parker says that not only did Reese work to perfect the accent, but she was the only one to bother using pronunciation which may be antiquated, i.e., reflecting 100 years ago, but not now. I think he used the word "marriage" to illustrate. You couldn't prove this by me, but that's what he says.;-)

(*grumblegrumble*) Mine isn't here yet, and there is no way I'll be able to find it around here, either. Must be patient, must be patient... (Maria) I casually started flicking through channels, knowing full well what channel it was on but I has to take it slow and easy and make it seem a coincidence when I found it. LOL! I can see it now: "let's see what's on...doop doo de doo...re-run...hmmm...oh, look what I just *happened* to find here (feigning innocence; dh looks exasperated--he is not deceived), I suppose we *could* watch this..."

I wonder...as I often do. This time I'm thinking that maybe there is heavy emphasis on RW and RE on the 'cuts' as in the beginning of the film's release those two seemed to be more heavily promoted. They got more attention in the media in the beginning. Then as the film was out there for a while, CF was pulled into the forefront, especially on the advertising. He did great on his promotional interviews. They must have recognized him as a bigger drawcard for audiences. Perhaps the original intent was to feature RW and RE two in the cuts when they were percieved as the two who would be the most popular in the film. Sad to think, especially when CF's part was clearly the top dog role. Don't know about RW accent. She does bug me a little overall although I really liked her in Pleasantville. (Wasn't that the name of that movie?)

(Mari) Rika, I hope it arrvies soon because we need a capture of the hair clip bit!;-) Well...... let me tell you what happened this afternoon. DH had car trouble and I had to pick him up at the dealership and drive him home. On the way we stopped at a deli to get sandwiches to take home for dinner. It took them a few minutes to get the sandwiches. Any guesses what establishment was two doors down from the deli? Anybody who yelled out "Blockbuster", go to the head of the class. That was just a tad too much temptation. So I rented it. I came back into the deli with my Blockbuster bag and DH said, "So, what did you rent? Something with Colin Firth in it?" The grin on my face must have been the clue. All I've watched so far is the "Making Of" and the "Behind the Scenes," but here's a little something for the others waiting for their DVD's and wondering about that hair clip: I've captured some other stuff too - coming soon - but I knew some people would be dying to see this just as I was so I thought I'd get it out there ASAP.

(Lisa) Don't know about RW accent. She does bug me a little overall although I really liked her in Pleasantville. (Wasn't that the name of that movie?) I guess I shouldn't complain too much about RW's accent, as I cannot really tell if it is exact. It is just something about the way she speaks in this role...maybe it's the way she holds her head, combined with the sort of 'snooty' delivery...nose in the air...and I know, "they are wearing chins high this season", but...something about it bugs me. You are right, RW was v. good in Pleasantville. I also liked her in Election. Otherwise, I am not a big RW fan. Didn't like her in Legally Blonde or Cruel Intentions (just didn't like those films in general).

Ohhhhh Rika! I love the pic! It just makes me giggle (I haven't watched the entire movie yet, but have watched this segment about 3-4 times).

RIKA!!! You *are* the woman!! Love that shot. Your DVD captures are amazing. How do you do it? Never mind, I'm uneducable about such things, but am very glad we have an expert here! Thank you, dahling.:-) It's so funny as he's sitting there practicing saying "Algy, ALGY, ALGY!!" in different tones. Parker seems like a very laissez-faire director. "Um, you might want to carry the note with you . . ."

OH! Thanks Rika..........

Wonderful, capture, Rika. Thank you. DH said, "So, what did you rent? Something with Colin Firth in it?" The grin on my face must have been the clue. Those silly grins do us in everytime. Eventually the DH's catch on, I wonder why? Yes, they are cute when they're jealous and trying not to be.

Yes - isn't it interesting watching the rehearsal, and then seeing it intercut with the actual film? Besides the different voices, I thought it interesting that he tried two different ways of getting out of the chair, and you could see the greater intensity and emotion in the way he stood up the second time. And what a gorgeous smile when, after the scene was filmed, OP told him, "That was great!" I tried to capture it but he was moving too fast so he's never in focus. And speaking of smiles, here's a nice one from the "Making Of" featurette. The boys are clearly having some fun together.....

I have to admit to being extremely envious of you all!!! I have no idea when TIOBE will be on sale in the UK. Does anyone know? My DH has suggested buying a multi-region DVD player, and then I could get Region 1 DVDs from the US! - He understands my obsession, bless him!

Rika! I 'bout fell off my chair! I'm still at work so have no DVD CF access except for your captures...and that dimple kills me...*sigh* He is truly the most gorgeous man alive...

Janet, Lucky you, sounds like you've trained your DH pretty well! We bought a DVD that is multi-region and for the first time we didn't buy a 'major brand name'. The only ones here in OZ with that feature were super expensive so we bought this strange brand I had never heard of before that the store installed some little component into the remote that made it multi-regional. Sounds shonky huh? Heehee....... Hey the picture is fantastic, it works great and in a couple of years when the technology has advanced by leaps and bounds we can go out and update without losing a load on the old one! Now, to find a DVD of TIOBE around here.........Did I keep it on topic? (insert sassy winkie)

(Dorine) Would be great to have one once everyone gets to watch their DVD's and videos a few hundred times. Just a few weeks ago, Kathy and I were talking in e-mail about how much fun it would be to do a TIOBE discussion fairly soon. But the DVD-deprived might have a problem. They could rent it, but the videotape is not yet "priced to own." It's listed at about $100 on Amazon. In a few months the price is bound to come down. Then again, maybe the vast majority of us have DVD players now - it sure seems that way from the comments here. (Janet) My DH has suggested buying a multi-region DVD player, and then I could get Region 1 DVDs from the US! Janet, another alternative might exist if you have access to a computer with a DVD player. The DVD player software on my laptop (I use Intervideo WinDVD version 4) can handle multiple regions.

I guess I shouldn't complain too much about RW's accent, as I cannot really tell if it is exact I hope some of the gals from UK would chime in...Lizza commented that she heard a few slips.Like some of us could pick out Colin's gaffes ( mall, coffee )in pronunciation in 3 DOR. I like RW :-)) Rika!

(Rika) Well...... let me tell you what happened this afternoon. ...I came back into the deli with my Blockbuster bag and DH said, "So, what did you rent? Something with Colin Firth in it?" Rika, you are too funny and too good to us and I'm glad you get your pre-ordered DVD and (almost)first day jollies and the POSITIVE joy of giving us the luscious screen captures. For services rendered, I think we ought to take up a collection to cover the cost of your rental. Wait until your DH sees what you can make off all of us by feeding the obsession! Also, makes me wonder how many of us have "outed" ourselves to our DH's? My own excellent DH watched it with me last night (he acknowledged enjoying it in the theatre too) and started it up tonight at the end of my "day from hell." I have yet to commit it all to memory and classify it by topics such as "best hair" and "are you glad to see me or is that a bazooka in your pocket?" but favorite moments so far are: --F.O'C kissing on him and ending up on the back of his neck...want to do my best Hermione Granger imitation, put my hand WAAAAAY up and say "Oooh! Oooh!! Me!!! Me!!" --The walk---favorite so far, as he walks the corridors on the way to meet Lady B. --The mirror image thing he and Rupe do. --Anytime he has glasses on. Reserving judgment on favorite dimples, studies have not been sufficiently thorough yet but am committed to rectifying this deficiency as soon as possible.

(Evelyn) Like some of us could pick out Colin's gaffes ( mall, coffee )in pronunciation in 3 DOR. Oooohh...now I'm dying here! I know you can't probably 'tell' me, but how did he flub those words??? Especially 'mall'...? BTW, I realize I am in a minority when I say that I am not a big RW fan....(and I do like a few of her movies, but it is usually the movie I find good, and not necessarily her performance) ;-) And I would like to hear the UK girls as well...did she do it well?

And what a gorgeous smile when, after the scene was filmed, OP told him, "That was great!" I tried to capture it but he was moving too fast so he's never in focus. Oooh, I was hoping you could catch that, but you're right, it is very fast. Love the smiley one you did get. He understands my obsession, bless him! That's a good man, Janet--hang onto him!:-) (Ev)I like RW :-)) I do too. Parker mentions having seen her in Election and wanting to work with her on that basis. Who could ever forget Tracy Flick? (Tress)I know you can't probably 'tell' me, but how did he flub those words??? Especially 'mall'...? I'll try: "mahhl" and "cahfee."

Our first look at Lord Dashwood!

Here's another!

Here's the URL for the WAGW site. Not surprisingly, they are really catering to the teen girl market. http://whatagirlwantsmovie.warnerbros.com/

(Mari) Our first look at Lord Dashwood! A penny for their thoughts, eh? ;-) A big thanks Mari for the new pics. V. enjoyable.

Mari, thanks for the WAGW photos. At least we know he'll be looking good.... beyond that we'll have to wait and see. I can't believe they didn't put any deleted scenes on the TIOBE DVD. The only one we really get is at the start of Behind the Scenes - the Jack/Algy scene on the street that must have come right after Jack's interview with Lady B. (Did anybody else notice the red double-decker buses you can see through the archway as they walk by? Maybe that's why the scene got cut.) I've gone through parts of the movie now (what a pleasure to be able to FF all the Algy/Cecily stuff, which I got very tired of after ten or so theater viewings). You wouldn't believe the gallery of gorgeous captures I have on my hard drive right now.... I found myself grabbing shot after shot because he looked so darn good in every single scene. So now my problem is picking the cream of the crop to post - and it's impossible to pick because they're all so lovely. So I thought, hey, important matters first. First - the answer to the Roman tailor: "Left." I know we'd already figured it out from watching the scene where the dog jumped up on him, but I've got the pictures to prove it: But what is that in his right-hand pocket in the second photo? And speaking of "what's in the pocket", check out the left pocket below. In this one, my guess is that it's his cell phone - the one we saw him using in the still photos taken on the set.

Thanks, Mari! Did you notice they mispelled her name? I do prefer Colin as a gentleman, and that Rolls should give Lisa a few ideas for fanfic. ;-) Just my cup of tea! The synopsis of the story does not go into Kelly Preston's character apart from "he was the love of her life". She does go to England... so will Lord D leave his fianc�e for her? ZZZZzzzzzz....................... ;-)))))))))) Rika, I really enjoyed those snappies. Thank you! I will eventually have to break down and get a multi-region DVD player.

(Rika), But what is that in his right-hand pocket in the second photo? And speaking of "what's in the pocket", check out the left pocket below. The red fingernails are lurking. ;-)

Thanks, Rika and Mari! Gosh, he's gorgeous! I can't figure out why he'd need a hair clip there, of all places!

I rushed to Target today to get my DVD! Oh joy! I haven't been able to get this big grin off my face all day! He is truly the most gorgeous man ever. For all you ladies who are into ODB's hair, I must say that in TIOBE his hair is perfect! Now bring on WAGW's and GWAPE! I need MORE!

(Me) I know you can't probably 'tell' me, but how did he flub those words??? Especially 'mall'...? (Mari) I'll try: "mahhl" and "cahfee." Thank you! I can almost hear it being done...lucky girl to have been there! BTW, love the pics from WAGW! Thanks for posting them. Rika....picture with the guitar....might that be the 'chew toy' Jeanie was talking about on Topic 166 (uh-oooohhhh that remark may get a yellow flag)? ;-D And do you do requests? If you captured the pic (don't go back and get it if you did not)...where he is sitting in bed looking at the old papers...I am a big fan of his toes and its a great tootsie shot with glasses (according to an earlier post Barb might not mind a pic with his specs on either!!)...my pyscho dog went nuts last night when she saw that scene....I didn't even realize that the dog was on ODB's bed until she 'told' me (I was too busy looking at ODB).

Tress, of course I captured one of those (and luckily it takes only about five minutes to edit and post a capture once I've got it). He's adorable in that scene:

(Mari) Parker praises it on the director's commentary, as Rupie did while promoting the film. Since they're English and I'm not, I'll defer to their judgement.;-) Yes, and as I recall in interviews, Colin was always very complimentary of her accent, too. What a sweetie! ;-) Guess OP couldn't really say, "Oh yeah, that accent really blew, but it was too late to recast and Harvey wouldn't greenlight it with anyone else." ;-) (Little late on my response, just got in) (Lisa) Perhaps the original intent was to feature RW and RE two in the cuts when they were percieved as the two who would be the most popular in the film. Sad to think, especially when CF's part was clearly the top dog role. I thought they would've had enough time to change the focus when, as you say, they realized he was such a selling point. (Mari) It's so funny as he's sitting there practicing saying "Algy, ALGY, ALGY!!" in different tones. Parker seems like a very laissez-faire director. "Um, you might want to carry the note with you . . ." LOL! I loved this bit, too. (Lisa) shonky LOL, I like this word. ;-) (Mari) Our first look at Lord Dashwood! Yuuuuum-my! With a dad that looks like him, bet she makes friends who want to hang at her house *real* fast ;-D. (Rika) he looked so darn good in every single scene That's why the first 2 or 3 viewings were throwaways as far as following anything else. ;-) And I don't think I ever would have picked up the stuff in the pocket in the bottom pic, not because I wasn't looking in the right place, *mind you*, just that he was moving so fast. But what is that in his right-hand pocket in the second photo? Shirttail, bunched up? I can't believe they didn't put any deleted scenes on the TIOBE DVD. I think the part with Prism and the Rev, where he had a canvas and chair and you couldn't hear them, was deleted, wasn't it? And Rika, what can I say besides thanks?! You've already captured some of my new favorites. That smile he had standing around with Rupe really stood out to me while I watched it last night. And I'll tell ya, you all have such great DH's. They're a hoot! Love hearing about them all.

Oh my goodness...now I'll have good dreams tonight...just want to grab those toes! Danke!

(Mari) Our first look at Lord Dashwood! But the synopsis, Louisa! Ughhh! Every stereotype in the book. Another CF film I shall have to miss :-((

Grab those toes? Honey, I've got ideas for them to meet up with my tongue and, well, I'll leave the rest to your imagination! (insert lusty winkie) Rika, thank you again.........

Good Heavens I can't leave without a HUGE thank you to Mari. Thanks for finding the shots of Lord Dashwood......Doesn't the one by the car make you just want to melt????? (Into his shoes and start with the toes.....) Clears throat, sorry once I get started it's hard for me to stop.

They must have just added this one.

Hey, Mari, thanks for the link to the WAGW pics. Does anyone happen to know what the estate is in those shots? It looks very familiar, but I can't place it. Loved the captures from TIOBE. Light colored pants RULE! LizBeth (Karen, is time to dust off and bring out the eggroll essay, again?)

It's West Wycombe Park -- Actually belonging to a Lord Dashwood. But when you last saw it, it was Jack Worthing's Estate! http://www.touruk.co.uk/houses/housebucks_westwy.htm

Re my comment on the synopsis here it is (thanks Mari;-)) http://whatagirlwantsmovie.warnerbros.com/

Mari, sorry about the crossing out! Not meant like that.

You must allow me to tell you how ardently I admire the pics of Jack and Lord Dashwood - talk about drool...

Thank you thank you Mari and Rika!! Delectable new pics are a great way to start the day! (Tress) I am a big fan of his toes and its a great tootsie shot with glasses No kidding..I'd like to take those little piggies to the market and go wheeee wheeee wheeee ALL the way home!!! Also, I posted this on O & E but I really can't stress enough how great this little video of ODB is that a fan named Berry put together. I don't want any of you to miss it so here is the link again... http://www.green-sector.de/media/pride_bridget.zip

Goodness, that capture of him in bed, barefoot, w/ the spectacles on is MIGHTY distracting! Rika, than you SO MUCH! I'm all a-flutter! (Tress) I didn't even realize that the dog was on ODB's bed until she 'told' me (I was too busy looking at ODB). LOL! Who's looking at anything else around ODB, when you have him in a bed shot looking so scrumptious? *slurp* (Rika) he looked so darn good in every single scene (Dorine) That's why the first 2 or 3 viewings were throwaways as far as following anything else. ;-) Unfortunately, TIOBE only played in my area for ONE WEEK, so all I had was one screening; I barely registered anyone else onscreen if ODB was around. (Lisa) Clears throat, sorry once I get started it's hard for me to stop. LOL! Lisa, you're only saying (writing) what the rest of us are thinking! Mari, thanks for the Dashwood snappies! He's looking very Mark Darcy-ish, no?

Our first look at Lord Dashwood! And wearing the Bada-Bing suit!My fave. Thanks Mari (Allison) Another CF film I shall have to miss :-(( LOL. C'mon Allison...you always say that;-) We must soldier on. At least this one you won't be the only one in the cinema. With a dad that looks like him, bet she makes friends who want to hang at her house *real* fast ;-D LOL...er...you mean their mothers.

From those who have their TIOBE DVDs, it seems there just isn't enough ODB in the extras. I'm wondering if there will be more of him in the DVD extras when it's released in the UK, since he's considered a much bigger star over there than here in the States. UK Firthettes, be on the alert!

(Moonstar)Mark Darcy-ish, no? LOL, I was just IM'ing Dorine, and I used the exact same expression, dash and all! Thank you, Mari for the link and pics of WAGW. I don't care about the plot at this point, just dying for another big screen experience. Oh, those toes and bed shot of Jack.(thanks, Rika. Lisa, I like it when you can't stop. The left/right investigations are in full swing again, I see. I love it. (Moon)The red fingernails are lurking. ;-) With all of these great pics from TIOBE and WAGW, I say let em lurk!

(Lisa) Honey, I've got ideas for them to meet up with my tongue and, well, I'll leave the rest to your imagination! (insert lusty winkie) Ohhhh...I had other ideas too! ODB's nekk'd toes make me think of nekk'd calfs and then think of nekk'd ...you get the idea (insert your lusty winkie here)... (moonstar) LOL! Who's looking at anything else around ODB, when you have him in a bed shot looking so scrumptious? *slurp* I won't be able to think straight all day since I can pull the pic up at work....bad, bad, bad (a morning thank you for Rika for making my day a bit brighter). And Mari! Yum! I love his look...(and Amanda looks almost smitten in that last picture you posted) Who cares about plot/dialogue when you have ODB looking SO GOOD! (Allison) Another CF film I shall have to miss :-(( (Evelyn) LOL. C'mon Allison...you always say that;-) We must soldier on. At least this one you won't be the only one in the cinema. It cannot possibly be his worst! And he looks oh-so-good...it is unfortunate that you cannot fast forward in a theatre (and skip the non-CF parts), but I'll sit through anything to see/hear ODB...Allison, you haven't truly missed CF films have you??? Even if I hear it's bad, I have to see it to see what all the fuss is about!

(Tress)Even if I hear it's bad, I have to see it to see what all the fuss is about! Absolutely. I can't even let a viewing of RV or BJD go by on TV without tuning in even for a minute if I know their scheduled-even though I've seen them ??? number of times. I always catch something that I missed before. I could never let something new go without being seen. Just for the pure drool of it, if for nothing else. I have begun rereading HS. I know we had a quick mention of it a few weeks ago. At the time I said it wasn't one of my favorite reads, but I read it for obvious reasons. Now, I'm about half way through, and I can't put it down. I'm enjoying the dialogue so much more, and getting so much more out of the story. I hope they release this in the Spring and don't move it back anymore.

Thanks, Mari! Colin looks so much better when he's well dressed! That blue shirt REALLY works for me. I love the rolled-up sleeves, the way it should be, NEVER short-sleeve shirts. :-) Rika, thanks for the bed picture. Makes one want to jump right in. ;-) (Allison), But the synopsis, Louisa! Ughhh! Every stereotype in the book. You are not alone, Allison. We would all love to have him in a dark, sexy, love story. A sexy gothic tale would do for me. (The clothes are part of the attraction). ;-D

Many many thanks Mari for the delicious previews of Lord Dashwood! And Rika for your ever brilliant captures from TIOBE. Speaking of RW's accent , I can only recall that it began to grate and sound a little forced in the tea scene with F.O'C. But really it was fine. Of course unlike you LUCKY Ladies I have not been able to se it recently. Thanks for telling us of your DVD delights, even if I did go a brilliant shade of emerald. ENJOY, one and all:-)

Maria, thanks for that link. I simply love that video. Must view it again.

Mari, thanks so much for the dash of Dashwood. He looks so dashing, yet a little fatherly too - especially in the last one. And, I agree, Amanda does look smitten. But who wouldn't :-) Rika, thanks so much for the great screen captures! The smiles, the dimples, the toes, the hair clip! Adorable! You are a master at it and so quick on the draw! Will have to go to the nearest Target ASAP!

I haven't read the above but if first-hand accounts of the ICI sighting haven't been posted already, I can do Antonella's. * * * * * * * * * * Also, there were several Drool donations in my snail mail and will be acknowledging those personally later today. I plan to post an updated Drool Darlings list by the end of the week, with our final fund-raising totals. Please remember, if you haven't heard from me, then I have either not received it or been notified...if it went directly to Terry.

Hi Boss....

Welcome home, "Goddess of All Things Colinary"! You've been missed! (doing snoopy dance)

And so say all of us!

Welcome back, Karen! Incidentally, should we be discussing the TIOBE DVD here or on 166? We decided it was current and so put it here. (Karen) I haven't read the above but if first-hand accounts of the ICI sighting haven't been posted already, I can do Antonella's. No, it hasn't been posted. I heard about it but did not have authorization to post anything. I'm glad everybody has enjoyed the captures. More to come! (KJArt) It's West Wycombe Park -- Actually belonging to a Lord Dashwood. But when you last saw it, it was Jack Worthing's Estate! Yup. And check out these photos from the two movies:

Seems to be a bold tag open? Closing it.

(Moon) That blue shirt REALLY works for me. I love the rolled-up sleeves, the way it should be, NEVER short-sleeve shirts. :-) Ooooohhh....I love his skinny, hairless arms (thought I agree that the blue shirt is VERY nice...no complaints there). (Moon) We would all love to have him in a dark, sexy, love story. A sexy gothic tale would do for me. (The clothes are part of the attraction). ;-D Wasn't he supposed to be in Maid of Buttermere??? That would work for a dark, sexy, love story (not gothic though....more Regency). Whatever happened to that project, does anyone know (and again, I apologize for be a newbie and not knowing these things)? (me) nekk'd toes make me think of nekk'd calfs.. Okay, just for the record...I meant calves. I should never post in the morning. I am not into cow love...(though the plural is the same, I just wanted to clear that up). ;-D

(Rika) And check out these photos from the two movies LOL, I noticed that last night,too when checkin out the WAGW site. Nice job, Rika, with all the pics. Thank you! (Rika) (me) nekk'd toes make me think of nekk'd calfs.. Guess I shouldn't read in the morning either. Didn't catch that. :-) BTW, I believe I neglected to give Mari a *big* thank you for the WAGW pics. Even though it's not the ideal storyline, I'm still looking forward to seeing him relatively soon again on the big screen. 3 or 4 times in the next year actually. Not bad at all.

Hey, Rika! What character does this remind you of? Oh, he's so pretty in makeup.. just like Richard. LOL!

Oh yeah, glad you put that up. It really stood out to me the faint bit of eyeliner. Not quite as noticeable here. Really made his eyes stand out to me. Not a bad thing, just something that jumped out at me. Oooh, but love that hair. You know, at the rate everyone is going, his entire portion of the movie will be posted one frame at a time. ;-)

(Dorine) You know, at the rate everyone is going, his entire portion of the movie will be posted one frame at a time. ;-) And this is a bad thing?? ;-) Thanks for the pics Jeanie...he's all dolled up! Love a man in eyeliner (and a bit of blush)... ;-D

Zoink & EGAD! My pictures were WAY too large. Sorry, Boss lady. =/ I am not going to post anymore pics from TIOBE for now, Dorine. I'll leave that in the hands of our more talented DVDiva. ;)

Welcome Home, Karen Thank you for all the pics, ladies. You, too Jeanie (took up the whole screen of my lap top)LOL! MY copy of TIOBE arrived just a few hours ago. Thank you to a very wonderful friend and fellow firthette. Now, I can drool all night long.

(Tress) (according to an earlier post Barb might not mind a pic with his specs on either!!)... Um, most assuredly not and thank you for thinking of me! Love the toesies too! If there can't be boots and specs, specs and toes will do! Is there a dog in that scene? Who knew? And there's a good chance it might be an excellent hand scene too. Love DVD zoom, I'll have to take another look....oh, rats. Many many thanks to all the talented drooleurs for all the yummy pictures! (Lisa) Honey, I've got ideas for them to meet up with my tongue and, well, I'll leave the rest to your imagination! (insert lusty winkie) Oh no, I'm content to let your imagination percolate...just as long as you share the results over at fanfic! You go girl!

(Karen) I haven't read the above but if first-hand accounts of the ICI sighting haven't been posted already, I can do Antonella's. (Rika) No, it hasn't been posted. I heard about it but did not have authorization to post anything. Newbie claiming ignorance again...what is ICI?? Who was sighted? ODB? Was the boss there??? Pray tell!

(Lora) Will have to go to the nearest Target ASAP! It may be too late! I went last night and my nearest Target was SOLD OUT. Not even any copies in the backroom (I made the adolescent clerk go back and look!) Now have only sorry little raincheck to show for my efforts. :-(

(Tress) Newbie claiming ignorance again...what is ICI?? Who was sighted? ODB? Was the boss there??? Pray tell! Tress I think it is the Italian Cultural Institute in London... We will have to get the story from Karen, all I know is that Nick Hornby made an appearance there and ODB may have attended...

From the NY Times Home Video column 11/15: The Importance of Being Earnest Reese Witherspoon is Cecily, Oscar Wilde's prim, romantically inclined 18-year-old, the ward of Jack Worthing (Colin Firth), who focuses the usually wandering eye of Worthing's friend and London carousing partner Algernon Moncrieff (Rupert Everett). What would Wilde have made of the embellishments that Oliver Parker's film has tacked onto the play like a restless dressmaker? While it misses the high-toned elegance, this souped-up version makes "a reasonably entertaining costume comedy. Wilde's satirical voice may be muffled, but at least it is audible" (Holden). 2002. Miramax. VHS, $103.99; DVD, $29.99. 94 minutes. PG.

UK alert. The Southbank show on ITV Sunday night is all about Andrew Davies. Bound to be some Darcy clips etc (oops famous last words;-) and maybe even an interview with Colin about him, due to BJD/EOR. Here's hoping, we need some action on our side of the pond;-)

Is the DOM's (dirty old man) appearance on the Southbank show because Dr. Zhivago is about to air?

Thanks for all the great, great pics, Mari, Rika and Jeanie. Keep them coming. Can't get enough.

U.S. release date for WAGW has been pushed back 3 weeks, until March 28, 2003.

March 28, 2003 the birth of Luca. Red fingernails will not be happy. ;-)

March 28th, the birth of Luca. Red fingernails will not be happy. ;-)

(Moon) March 28th, the birth of Luca. Red fingernails will not be happy. ;-) Do you think this would keep him from promoting the film (are they tied to promoting, even when the schedule changes a dozen times)? I noticed that Judi Dench did not apprear to be around for TIOBE promo stuff in the US (unless I missed some stuff which is entirely possible). Also, filming should start on Monday for GWAPE (unless that has changed)! Wooooohoooooo!!!

(SandyM) Now have only sorry little raincheck to show for my efforts. :-( This reminds me of the Toys 'R' Us ad a couple of years ago with the little kid who was running around playing with.... his rain check. I hope you find one soon! (Tress) Also, filming should start on Monday for GWAPE (unless that has changed)! Wooooohoooooo!!! That's right! So, boss, now that you're back, we talked a bit about the GWAPE book discussion while you were gone. There was some sentiment in favor of starting it Monday in honor of the start of the shoot. Maybe that's too soon, but can we re-open the topic of when that's gonna happen? I think a reasonable number of us are up for a discussion. (Pam) Thanks for all the great, great pics, Mari, Rika and Jeanie. Keep them coming. Oh..... okay! Here's one that amused me just a bit. Remember how a while back we were admiring the way Mark and Fitzwilliam Darcy's coats billowed when they walked? Well, look, we have another billowing coat, and he wasn't even moving! :-)

(Rika) Here's one that amused me just a bit. Remember how a while back we were admiring the way Mark and Fitzwilliam Darcy's coats billowed when they walked? Well, look, we have another billowing coat, and he wasn't even moving! :-) Hmmmm...Where is Rupie's left hand??

(Maria) Hmmmm...Where is Rupie's left hand?? Possibly where mine should be? ;-) Anytime is fine for me for the book discussion. (Mari) U.S. release date for WAGW has been pushed back 3 weeks, until March 28, 2003. So if the date for HS holds, he'll have 2 opening pretty much simultaneously. I'm sure he could do some PR early. He won't be the one doing PR for WAGW more than likely. It'll be AB, I would think. As far as HS, maybe there won't be much PR at all for TV. MD can take up the slack. I rarely see HG doing PR for anything.

But...I hope that's something in his pocket other than HIM. I want to be RE's hand when I grow up. We all know that it touched ODB's butt. Lucky hand. LizBeth

(Rika)GWAPE book discussion..., but can we re-open the topic of when that's gonna happen? I think a reasonable number of us are up for a discussion. Yes, please can we have a GWAPE discussion, I long for it. (Dorine)Possibly where mine should be? You are getting naughty again. Thank goodness. I thought you were going to be good permanently.

Just read this: http://www.pemberley.com/bin/virtview/virtview.cgi?read=67275 Please pay attention to the info about WAGW ;-)))))))))))))))

(Annie) Please pay attention to the info about WAGW ;-))))))))))))))) Thanks for the info! Hope to see HP this weekend, now I have an even bigger reason to go (hope our theatres are showing the same trailers)! ODB in leather pants...it does not get much better than that for a Friday afternoon! ;-)

Thanks, Annie! I recall posting here that I hoped Warners had its act together enough to run the WAGW trailer with Harry. Great exposure for the film. My son is going to wonder why I'm so aggreeable to seeing HP this opening weekend.;-) (Maria)Hmmmm...Where is Rupie's left hand?? Hee hee.

(Mari)My son is going to wonder why I'm so aggreeable to seeing HP this opening weekend.;-) LOL, just decided to take my daughter tomorrow. She just doesn't know it yet. Sorry if this has been discussed before, but why does IMDB have no listing for a US release date for HS. Just dates for France and UK?

Hummm, so even if the plot is contrived and predictable there is hope for us in the way of a leather pants session? Oh Karen (Evelyn, or any old-timers who know these things), are there any pics in the archives of Colin in leather pants or will this be a first?

(Tress) ODB in leather pants...it does not get much better than that Oh bugger, bugger!! I'm going to am HP screening on Sunday that won't have previews. :-( May have to go to another movie sometime that has HP playing at a similar time and sneak out to watch previews. ;-)

(Annie) Please pay attention to the info about WAGW ;-))))))))))))))) What a surprise! Saw Harry Potter tonight and there was the WAGW preview! Lots of Colin shots! The dancing in front of the mirror shot is right at the end. It went by so quickly that it almost looked like he was wearing a leotard - I completely missed that it was leather. I think I was just so pleased to be seeing it that I obviously didn't pay attention to details. I remember that in one shot, his hair was exceptionally curly. He looks very slim. Other than that, there is a great smile shot at the end. Enjoy, everyone!

(Myou) Saw Harry Potter tonight and there was the WAGW preview! Lots of Colin shots! Well, I now know what DH and I are doing tomorrow night. This is great - he'll think it's HP I want to see and will have no idea I have.... another motive! (Annie) Please pay attention to the info about WAGW ;-))))))))))))))) Leather pants........ I'm verklempt.

Delurking... Just got home from HP. Not just leather pants but black leather with a sleeveless black tee (very 70's). (I think it's a flashback that goes with Daphne asking him "Favorite 70's group....Please not the Bee Gees...just not the Bee Gees.) My family thinks I'm an idiot (but my behavior during the preview only strengthened their view).

Yeah, we just got back, too. I was late and came in after my children and husband and I missed the preview!!! GAHHH! However, my minion told me all about it. "Mom, he was posing in front of the mirror, and he was playing an air guitar!!"... LOL! Oh well, I'm sure I'll be seeing previews again at some point.

(Kathy K)Not just leather pants but black leather with a sleeveless black tee (hyperventilating at the very thought.....) As soon as I catch my breath, Kathy, I'm going to say WELCOME!!!! (still hyperventilating) Okay! In honor of Kathy's delurking, here's another TIOBE capture - it offers an example of why it would be a good thing to be FOC.

Can I relurk then delurk again to get a pic like that or any other sexy pic? I love the look on his face while being seduced. Mmmmm Mmmmm! Shame we don't get to see *that* too often. ;)

Welcome, Kathy! What a great capture Rika has given you! I'm somewhat jealous (but even more jealous of FOC!)

Nice to meet you Kathy. How nice that your delurking comes upon the occasion of the introduction of the leather pants...two reasons for the occasion to go down in history! And for admittance here, it might be *required* that your family think you an idiot! LOL You'll fit right in...and thanks for the field report! And Dorine, relurking is not allowed, I see you slinking behind that potted palm to hide!!

Oh, bollocks! I was going to wait a few weeks for the crowds to die down before I went to see HP (I preferred the book to the first movie anyway). That plan's just been shot to H... BLACK Leather pants!!! Oh my.

(Barb) And Dorine, relurking is not allowed Oh well, I tried. *sniff* (KathyC) BLACK Leather pants!!! Oh my. (just speechless at the thought ;-)) Forgot to say Welcome Kathy!

(Lisa) Hummm, so even if the plot is contrived and predictable there is hope for us in the way of a leather pants session? I saw it last night as well...He looks f-f-fabulous!!! And gets the silliest of grins on his face as his daughter begs him not to tell her the BeeGees was his favorite group in the 70's.. It does look like another "Princess Diaries" though but to see him on the big screen, gaaughhh!! Hp was fun as well with the mother of BJ playing the nurse, and Jude playing moaning Myrtle and Kenneth Branaugh playing the defense against the dark arts professor..More thoughts but DH could wake at any moment!!

(Barb) And Dorine, relurking is not allowed Hey, Dorine there is strength in numbers, I'll relurk if you relurk OR, if Rika will oblige with a capture for us, we can stay status quo. Hey Rika, rescue us. Please! WELCOME, Kathy. What a great time to delurk. CF in leather...OH HOLY JE..S! Already have my tickets for tonight's show. OHHHHHH. I can't believe it, A trailer making us nuts. What's going to happen when we get the full axminster?

My son also informed me he was making muscles, or at least that's what I think he said. Then, Sam said with a bit of surprise , "that man is pretty muscular"... (think of that in leather) I'm still kicking myself for coming in late... (banging head against the desk... bad dobby, bad dobby, bad) Kathy, thanks for delurking, by the way! Please don't "apperate" on us and pretend that you're not here anymore, ok?

So when might they put the trailer online so we may watch it on a loop? ;-)

This is the HP conference: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/movies/51/new Lots of Colin shots! The dancing in front of the mirror shot is right at the end. It went by so quickly that it almost looked like he was wearing a leotard Wearing leather pants dancing in front of a mirror...making muscles? What kind of a carricature role is this? I'm getting a drift of the story line... American teenager goes to England to connect with stuffy British dad and he morphs into a cool dude. Am having heartburn thinking about this.Pleasegod don't let him be a clown.The zaney ending of TIOBE was "tolerable". But this sounds like an Adam Sandler/Jim Carrey role. Why-oh-wy didn't they cast Rupert Everert in this... Before you come down on me...remember we can all express our opinions here and I *really* don't give a hoot about the toesies... He's a gorgeous guy alright..which is important, but "where's the beef"? Bring on GWAPE.

Do I smell an Oscar nom in the making? *snort* Thanks for the trailer previews, ladies. With all the reports, it seems like more went to see HP on its first day than TIOBE. Must check to see what else is playing at that theater, so I can poke my head in for the trailer. Ask and ye shall receive. I've set up the GWAPE book discussion topic in *gasp* the Books Conference. You will find it here: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/books/45/ You can either bookmark it or use the link I'll put on Drool's main page. But remember, it will not show up on the Drool list has having new messages. You have to go over there.

Thank you Karen,When can we begin? (Evelyn)American teenager goes to England to connect with stuffy British dad and he morphs into a cool dude. Sounds like there are flashbacks from the '70's when he may have been a cool dude, before he morphs into stuffy British guy? But, probably re-morphs into a cool dude before the end. OYE!:-)

OOPS, sorry boss. Did not read the main page. I see the discussion begins on the 18th.

(Dorine), So when might they put the trailer online so we may watch it on a loop? ;-) Good question! I'm tempted to bring my video camera. ;-) Just bought tix on line. I too was going to wait to bring my kids. I never do opening weekends. I was there for TIOBE though. (Evelyn), What kind of a carricature role is this? I'm getting a drift of the story line... American teenager goes to England to connect with stuffy British dad and he morphs into a cool dude. Am having heartburn thinking about this.Pleasegod don't let him be a clown.The zaney ending of TIOBE was "tolerable". Tolerable to you, perhaps. Insupportable to me. WAGW is one clich� after another. :-( Let's see, we've tried to show Colin how to wear a proper shirt(that collar problem) and jacket(usually too big on the shoulders) and socks(those horrid short ones) and shoes(do I need to list them?). Next we've set him up with kissing lessons(we are still waiting for the results). And now... we find him as a caricature of one clich� after another. Who would have ever thought that we would be seeing a CF film preview at a kiddies film? Which is not to say I want him in a Mike Leigh film. I hate ML. But we do deserve an intelligent adult R movie from him.

And... Welcome to the new Kathy! Thanks for link, Karen.

(Evelyn) Wearing leather pants dancing in front of a mirror...making muscles? What kind of a carricature role is this? Pleasegod don't let him be a clown.The zaney ending of TIOBE was "tolerable" Gotta say I'm with you all the way here (TIOBE was barely tolerable), but while it's not ideal, it could be worse. He could be in an actual Adam Sandler movie. ;-) That is insupportable! Which is not to say I want him in a Mike Leigh film. You didn't like Topsy, Turvy? I loved it. Though if I didn't like Gilbert and Sullivan so much and LOVE The Mikado (my favorite!), then I guess I wouldn't either. The rest of his stuff is a downer. WAGW is one clich� after another. :-( You think LA won't be, too, of a sort? Next we've set him up with kissing lessons(we are still waiting for the results). Suspect we're in for a looooong wait. Cause ya know nuthins happenin' in GWAPE, unless they do a major rewrite. HS may be our only hope. HGm isn't shy when it comes to love scenes, so maybe she can provide some inspiration. (unless a red fingernail was tapping away nearby ;) )

(Evelyn) Before you come down on me...remember we can all express our opinions here and I *really* don't give a hoot about the toesies... Oh, Evelyn, just this once, can't you toe the party line? Bwah!! (insert very smart alecky winkie).

(Dorine), HS may be our only hope. With a PG 13 rating? Nah. You didn't like Topsy, Turvy? I rented it and could not finish it. I could see Colin wanting to be in a Mike Leigh or D. Doyle film. But that to me would be more of a turn-off than WAGW.

(Evelyn) But this sounds like an Adam Sandler/Jim Carrey role. Why-oh-wy didn't they cast Rupert Everert in this... But at least you won't be the only one in the theatre ;-) Do you think this will even make it to the UK? Cannot see any preteen girl here buying into all that stuff. And who else would want to watch a horrible caricature of British life. I know we have a reputation of being able to laugh at ourselves but is this even meant to be funny? It must be purely for the US market. I hope he got a very fat pay cheque.

Welcome Kathy K!!! Rika, thank you for the Gwen and 'Earnest' picture! FOC does some serious finger time in his hair right about there!!! (Evelyn)...remember we can all express our opinions here and I *really* don't give a hoot about the toesies... No more toe talk...I'll put a sock in it!! ;-) (Barb S) And Dorine, relurking is not allowed, I see you slinking behind that potted palm to hide!! LOL!! I don't know what Dorine even looks like, but the visual that this gave me made me laugh (I'm seeing Bridget)! ;-) (Karen) Do I smell an Oscar nom in the making? *snort* Nevah! But there is the oft coveted "Kid's Choice Awards" on Nickelodeon!!! I know ODB must have been disappointed for the MTV Award loss for "Best Snog" for BJD, and something as prestigious as a Nick Award might make up for that! ;-D (Evelyn) Bring on GWAPE. Yesssssss!!!!! (Dorine) Suspect we're in for a looooong wait. Cause ya know nuthins happenin' in GWAPE, unless they do a major rewrite. Vermeer and his wife had 11 children...we could see some action with a bit of a rewrite! *typing with fingers crossed...hey! that's hard to do!* ;-)

(Dorine), HS may be our only hope. (Moon) With a PG 13 rating? Nah. Oh yeah, forgot what it was rated. Drat and double drat. (Tress) I know ODB must have been disappointed for the MTV Award loss for "Best Snog" for BJD, and something as prestigious as a Nick Award might make up for that! ;-D LOL! Oh my, if he considers this one of his career pinnacles, I'm finding a new man. ;-) Then I'd have to find a new board to post on...and a new set of friends. :-(

Dorine), HS may be our only hope. (Moon) With a PG 13 rating? Nah. (Dorine) Oh yeah, forgot what it was rated. Drat and double drat. George's butt in Solaris was just rerated PG-13, but I wouldn't get my hopes up unless Colin sticks with dramatic roles, where there's at least a possiblity of of some significant between-the-sheets time, kitchen counter time, living room floor time or whatever other room might be best. (Allison) Do you think this will even make it to the UK? It's my understanding that this will open all over the world at about the same time, a la most Disney flicks.

Evelyn) But this sounds like an Adam Sandler/Jim Carrey role. Why-oh-wy didn't they cast Rupert Everert in this... (Allison)But at least you won't be the only one in the theatre ;-) ROTF, Allison.You got me there.I thought of my remark as I hit "submit"... But that was before I heard about the bufoon antics. I should have known....from the director tht brought you "Joe Dirt" OK...I have a better one before someone else chimes in: "At least Evelyn, they won't be vomiting in the toilets in this one" Me: "No...only the adult audience." They'll hand out barf bags with your ticket. If he thought he was getting poor role offerings before ...wait til he see what he gets after this one. And he can kiss "Hamlet" goodbye.The critics will savage him. BTW I hope I'm wrong...if I am, I'll apologize soundly on March 29th. Hi Kathy. Sorry you're catching me on such a low day...I'm normally v. upbeat.

(Karen) George's butt in Solaris was just rerated PG-13 Good! I was a bit disturbed by the rating only because I hate that it's perfectly acceptable for a woman to be nude in a film (and get the PG-13 rating) but as soon as a man drops his drawers, the ratings shoot up! (Like their stuff is so special...Ha!) ;-) (Karen)...but I wouldn't get my hopes up unless Colin sticks with dramatic roles, where there's at least a possiblity of of some significant between-the-sheets time.... You don't think that they cut the entire "naked dance of joy" scene from the script to you?!!? Colin did say in an interview that someone gets naked for him in HS (course the PG-13 rating we know he's not naked). And, then again, even that could be on a cutting room floor (and the way DVD extras go, we'll never ever see it). I hope we get to see some CF action in HS (I'll I ask for is a little bit...a tinsy bit...) ;-)

(Karen), unless Colin sticks with dramatic roles, where there's at least a possiblity of of some significant between-the-sheets time, kitchen counter time, living room floor time or whatever other room might be best. He'll have to move to France and seriously consider learning french. (Karen) George's butt in Solaris was just rerated PG-13 True, but Sodebergh still had to do more editing for it and all the sex scenes are out. What kind of fun is that? I got it!!! They should release the pg-13 for early showings and the r-rated for the evenings. How's that for progressive? Quick get me Sodebergh and Clooney on the phone. ;-D Hey, it can work for HS too. :-)

(Moon) He'll have to move to France and seriously consider learning french. Or Spanish...I just saw "Y Tu Mama Tambien"...oh my!

(Karen) With all the reports, it seems like more went to see HP on its first day than TIOBE. Due to the limited release, most of us didn't have the option of going to see TIOBE on its first day. BTW, Karen, thanks for setting up the GWAPE topic! (Linda) Hey, Dorine there is strength in numbers, I'll relurk if you relurk OR, if Rika will oblige with a capture for us, we can stay status quo. Hey Rika, rescue us. Please! Now, you know I can't resist it when my fellow LD's beg. My biggest problem is, what to choose? I've got close to 100 DVD captures on my hard drive and not a bad shot in the bunch. But since I have a preference for Jack-as-Ernest, here goes:

First of all I'm with you Rika, I vote to discuss it by section, but as we get into it we can always refer back if need be. AND, Thank you LD sister, Jack is wonderful, especially in that outfit. Rika, you're the best

I go for the free-for all.I don't like structure in discussions; too confining. Too academic. Becomes bureaucratic.Before you know it someone will be telling me... "You can't go there yet". These discussions usually take on a pattern of their own;each one is different. I like not knowing what's going to come up next:-))

PS...anyway....we're not the hosts, are we ;-)

We discussed MLSF in a sort of free-for-all right? That worked out I think we could just dive into the book and go wherever our thoughts and questions lead us.

Oh my, don't know what I hit there. Was trying to insert another sentence and...poof! it was gone. As I was saying.... We discussed MLSF in a sort of free-for-all right? That worked out well I thought. It would be nice to just dive in and go wherever our thoughts and questions lead us. And Rika......excellent pic! Another one of my favorite scenes/looks in TIOBE. Love that mischievous smirk. :-) Like at the end where he's trumping Lady Bracknell on the stairs. Thank you very much. ;-)

(Dorine re: WAGW) LOL! Oh my, if he considers this one of his career pinnacles, I'm finding a new man. ;-) Then I'd have to find a new board to post on...and a new set of friends. :-( Noooooooo!!! You can't go!!! You have to stay with us and tough it out (just keep thinking about how good he looks in the WAGW's photos...put silly plot out of your mind...you are getting sleepy....very...very...sleepy...See! All better now!!). Besides! Where are you going to go? Antonio Banderas chat? Justin Timberlake??? Stay with us...we love you! (Evelyn) If he thought he was getting poor role offerings before ...wait til he see what he gets after this one. And he can kiss "Hamlet" goodbye.The critics will savage him. BTW I hope I'm wrong...if I am, I'll apologize soundly on March 29th. I hope you're wrong as well. ;-) I really don't have high hopes for this film, but he does look good in the pics (shallow person that I am). I would be REALLY freaked out if GWAPE wasn't on his plate right now. With WAGW, HS and LA all being released within a year, it could do some serious damage. I am excited to see all of these films (trying to be the optimist), but I don't see them advancing his career. IMO, GWAPE has some potential (and it's drama, which could get him some more serious roles again...although TEoR may be after GWAPE...). As far as the GWAPE discussion is concerned...I'm for whatever! I'm just excited to start a discussion, since it will be my first. Also, are we reading this as just a book (with no mention of ODB), or will we doing speculation about the movie as well?

Sorry you're catching me on such a low day...I'm normally v. upbeat. LOL Evelyn, everyone is entitled to have their "day"!

Good suggestions re book discussion, but why don't we take it over to that conference. I hate to clutter up this topic with adminstrative details that more appropriately belong elsewhere. Remember: limited # of messages in a topic. ;-) And it is doubtful we'd use all 1999 up for GWAPE. BTW, that troll has hit GWAPE. Don't bother with him. I'll be deleting his comments regularly.

(Karen) Good suggestions re book discussion, but why don't we take it over to that conference. That's fine, Karen - I just figured if I posted the question there now, since we're not starting till Monday and since we can't tell if there are new messages, nobody would know I'd even asked it! But with the question here to get people's attention, we can go over there to discuss it. re: WAGW..... (Tress) I really don't have high hopes for this film, but he does look good in the pics (shallow person that I am). I guess I'm shallow too. But, yeah, I'd hate to see him do nothing but this kind of stuff. What's that line that he said Peter O'Toole told him - "One for the show, and one for the dough." But I know, I know - there's been more "dough" than "show" lately. The teaser could be very misleading as to the nature of his role. This isn't going to be a highlight of his career no matter what, but the black-leather scene may be just one silly moment from an otherwise dignified character..... or not. And we probably won't know till the movie comes out.

If he played his air guitar, clad in black leather pants and a T, and danced privately for me, I wouldn't mind a bit. But on a big screen... I'm getting flashes of Dan Ackroyd here. ;-)

Now that I'm here, I suppose I'll take another risky step and venture my opinion. I'm actually looking forward to WAGW. I love those kinds of movies especially a Saturday afternoon with my daughters. I also like seeing him in movies I can actually see. I had to drive 3 hours to see TIOBE more than 5 weeks after opening. If I want to see GWAPE, I'm sure it will be Minneapolis or Kansas City both more than 5 hours away from my house. (Waiting for video sucks!!!) So I'll take a slightly cliched, probably a little sappy movie that I can see in a movie theater without having to road trip. Besides, my kids will want to watch it over and over and over when it comes out on video.

(Karen) I'm getting flashes of Dan Ackroyd here. ;-) I'm sending you my soap. I don't need it for once. ;-) clad in black leather pants and a T, and danced privately for me, I wouldn't mind a bit. Can you send him my way when he's done? ;-) (KathyK) Now that I'm here, I suppose I'll take another risky step and venture my opinion. No, no...not risky. We're equal opportunity opinion givers here. :-)

(Karen) If he played his air guitar, clad in black leather pants and a T, and danced privately for me, I wouldn't mind a bit. (Dorine) Can you send him my way when he's done? ;-) We're going to have to set up a schedule for this, aren't we? Tell you what - I'll go first and make sure the dancing, leather pants, and so on are up to our exacting standards before sending him in your direction. Bear in mind that it may take quite a while - one can't rush these things. ;-) (Karen) I'm getting flashes of Dan Ackroyd here. ;-) ACK!!!! Well, that certainly took care of the lovely image in my head generated by the above.

You know.. hearing that ODB does campy, degrading silly things in front of a mirror in WAGW tends to remind me of the antics of Kevin Kline in the comedy "A Fish Called Wanda", but I must be mistaken about that because he won an Oscar for that role, and it seems, as far as I can tell by a few here, that such an occurence would be, not only a stain on an actor's name that he could never overcome, but a molecular impossibility as well! I mean... once an actor plays a silly role in a goofy comedy there's simply no way the Academy will EVER take them seriously again.. Such a move has caused the downfall of so many fine actors: Tom Hanks, Robin Williams, Dustin Hoffman, Jack Lemmon, James Coburn, Kevin Spacy, Jim Broadbent, Al Pacino, Robert DeNiro,(I could go on and on but since I already have the impression that I wore my welcome out here awhile back, I shall desist.) You know, just for the record, I wish ODB wouldn't take on such roles, as well, and save himself for only the sort of proje ts that bring him acclaim from, both, far and wide, but I'm sure he'd rather have an occasionally laughable role listed on his resume & nice things for his family, than be accepting only Oscar worthy work and living with middle class worries. Oh man! (slapping self in head) I just realized that I've made yet another faux pas by, once again, mentioning WAGW's preview on this thread, even though it is current. Could someone post that link again so that I can take my unwelcomed comments about Colin Firth's NEW movie's preview over to the Harry Potter thread where they belong? Gee... I guess even simpleminded pollyannas eventually learn to take a hint and quit trying to be friendly, or, perhaps like Evelyn, I'm simply having a difficult day.

..once an actor plays a silly role in a goofy comedy there's simply no way the Academy will EVER take them seriously again. The candles are being lit as we speak... Here's the URL you wanted: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/movies/51/

(Karen), If he played his air guitar, clad in black leather pants and a T, and danced privately for me, I wouldn't mind a bit. But on a big screen... I'm getting flashes of Dan Ackroyd here. ;-) LOL! It was goofy. Wait till you see it! There is a close-up of a picture of him with a hippy vest and long hair that might actually be his own. I hope it's on-line soon. I want to see it again and I'm not going back to HP.

(Moon) There is a close-up of a picture of him with a hippy vest and long hair that might actually be his own. There are a few old pictures of him around with long hair, aren't there? Or am I just imagining it?

(Karen), If he played his air guitar, clad in black leather pants and a T, and danced privately for me... Did you say there was a schedule being set up? Just let me know where I need to sign-up... ;-) I just saw it...and honestly (here I go)....it didn't look as bad as I thought it might! It actually looked like something I may be able to sit through without too many complaints (I say this now, please do not hold me to it). Thought ODB looked wonderful. Trailer had *lots* of close-ups. It seemed as if he had as much screen time as Amanda (in the preview). The woman behind me let out an audible sigh when she saw ODB!! I giggled and the DH started laughing...(he may have thought I brought him to HP just to see ODB...hmmmmm....I'd never do something like that)! Anyway, the leather scene was goofy (to quote Moon) and he was barefoot (sorry Evelyn)...The Bee Gee part was funny because he had a great smirk on his face (it was a nano-second, but I saw it). There was a scene when Daphne first gets to the UK and someone says something like "how can we believe she is your daughter?" and his response is, "she has a birth certificate with my name on it, and.....she has my eyes". Kathy K, I think I would drive 5 hours to see this one... (Moon) There is a close-up of a picture of him with a hippy vest and long hair that might actually be his own. I think you may be right...funny picture. Wish it would have been on-screen a second longer. And about seeing HP again...though I really enjoyed it, at 2 hours 40 minutes (w/ no pee break and too much Diet Coke)....I think I'll wait for the video to come out before I see it again! So, I hope they do put the trailer online soon! ;-)

(Rika) There are a few old pictures of him around with long hair, aren't there? Or am I just imagining it? Hope the boss forgives me. I found one on another fan site. About half way down the page. Also a good picture with Meg (dimples!) further down. http://hem.passagen.se/lmw/bio1.html

Tress, I just saw the trailer, and I agree with you. It definitely looks decent. He looks fantastic, and the guitar scene is very quick. Looks like a flasback type thing. The look he gives AB when she says please don't tell me it was the Bee Gee's is to die for. I'll reserve judgment on this until I see it, but from what I saw so far, I'm very pleasantly surprised.

(Jeanie) You know, just for the record, I wish ODB wouldn't take on such roles, as well, and save himself for only the sort of projects that bring him acclaim from, both, far and wide, but I'm sure he'd rather have an occasionally laughable role listed on his resume & nice things for his family, than be accepting only Oscar worthy work and living with middle class worries. I agree. We can hope he gets offered some really meaty roles, but in the meantime he has a family to provide for, and at least he's a working actor. I guess even simpleminded pollyannas eventually learn to take a hint and quit trying to be friendly, or, perhaps like Evelyn, I'm simply having a difficult day. Simpleminded? I don't think so! Say, is this one of those Southern-girl acts?

Thank you Tress so much for the details on the trailer/preview of WAGW! I feel like I was there! :) Looking at the offerings at my theater, I can't quite stomach the $8.50 for just a trailer... (maybe I need to go look at some more of Rika's delicious captures to shake the common sense out of me :) )

To offer some context, not long ago I asked if we were going to discuss GWAPE in "chunks" or as a free-for all. In the course of the discussion this remark was made: (Evelyn) PS...anyway....we're not the hosts, are we ;-) No, we're not. But it never occurred to me that the prerogative of the host would be compromised by some opinions being expressed on a question/suggestion, particularly since our host, from my observation, seems quite open to input and ideas about the topics for the discussions and so on. But, Evelyn, your comment has left me most unhappy, because it suggests that I stepped out of bounds and may have inadvertently offended Karen. I would hate it if that were the case. Karen, I'm terribly sorry if my question/suggestion was out of line. I'm deleting the post that started the conversation and I withdraw the question. I know I'm compounding my sins by cluttering up 165 with this post, but since Evelyn's remark was posted here, I thought it the best place to offer an apology.

(Jeanie) hearing that ODB does campy, degrading silly things in front of a mirror in WAGW tends to remind me of the antics of Kevin Kline in the comedy "A Fish Called Wanda", but I must be mistaken about that because he won an Oscar for that role... Excellent point! And then he did "In/Out" where he danced to Macho Man. KK is an excellent, very versatile actor, who I admire (and think is v. cute as well). Unfortunately (and this is where we get into those dastardly career discussions), Colin hasn't offset his forays into comedy with solid dramatic roles. KK constantly does Shakespeare on stage and serious little indie films in addition to his scene-stealing roles in larger films. I saw KK on Broadway many years ago as the Pirate King in Pirates of Penzance and was amazed at how brilliant this guy is. Your other examples are noteworthy as well, although I would omit DeNiro as he has only recently moved into that type of role. Does he need the money that badly now? ;-) (KathyK) I suppose I'll take another risky step and venture my opinion One thing I really dislike is when people feel they must preface their opinions with comments like this. Puhleeez!!! You have no need to say that. State your opinion. period. We do not flame anybody here. You and I may not agree, but that is normal. I prefer to see Colin do other types of roles and I do not have the problem of having to drive 5 hours to see an arthouse film. But being able to see a film with my child or watching it in a continuous loop on video with same child are not important criteria for me. We lead different lifestyles. I rarely, if ever, go to see the BIG blockbuster films and I don't apologize for that or make excuses for not having seen the flavor of the weekend. That's my preference. Amen. (Rika) I'm terribly sorry if my question/suggestion was out of line. Not out of line, and what is going on here? Why are people getting their knickers in a twist? Take a deep breath, close your eyes and visualize CF in tight leather pants doing a private lap dance for you. I am doing that right, even though it is difficult to concentrate on typing. ;-)

No apology needed.No sin committed.This is an equal opportunity board and what you read into my posting was your perception. Didn't you see the ;-) Besides *I'm* always been told by the boss ...slides right off. Part of the deal around here. Turn around: OK...I look forward to seeing the trailer of WAGW Ts'giving weekend.. I have always liked ODB's early pictures with big hair:-))))) Thank you Linda.

(Jeanie) Could someone post that link again so that I can take my unwelcomed comments about Colin Firth's NEW movie's preview over to the Harry Potter thread where they belong? Huh? I believe the url was posted for comments relating to the HP movie in message #388 above. The Mirror article with the pics of a long-haired Colin can be found here: http://www.spring.net/karenr/articles/mirror040901.html

(Karen) Your other examples are noteworthy as well, although I would omit DeNiro as he has only recently moved into that type of role. Does he need the money that badly now? ;-) Well he does have a production company to run. ;) Anyway, I read an EW article yesterday that mentioned after the success of Analyze This, he said he found that he liked doing comedy and seemed to be decent in it. Not sure where he went wrong with....uh, what's that one with Eddie Murphy. Didn't see it, but know it didn't do well. Guess we'll see how Anayze That does in a couple of weeks. Colin hasn't offset his forays into comedy with solid dramatic roles. No, unfortunately not, but at least he did Conspiracy. Granted it was TV and relatively small compared to KB's part, but still helluva job I thought.

(Karen) If he played his air guitar, clad in black leather pants and a T, and danced privately for me, I wouldn't mind a bit. But on a big screen... I'm getting flashes of Dan Ackroyd here. ;-) Now that's a really scary thought. LOL. Actually am looking forward to seeing this as I like alot of these movies. At least its getting advanced publicity. That's a start and a refreshing change. Smart move to have such a divine adult attraction in a teen movie IMO. Tight black leather, way to go. I think it will be lots of fun. Looking forward to it, and "she has my eyes." Can just picture him saying that. Good enough for me.

I also thought it was brilliant to run this trailer with HP. Karen, a question: Does this work like TV, do you have to pay big bucks to run your trailer with an obvious blockbuster like HP? Like running a commercial during the Superbowl? If it does, then it is encouraging to think there will be semi-big budget publicity for WAGW?! (FanPam)and "she has my eyes I loved that line: She has a birth certificate with my name on it, and she has my eyes. I mentioned to others after seeing this last night, that He looks like Mark Darcy, but sounds like Mr. Darcy (the way he delivers this line). Two Darcy's for the price of one. I'd pay extra.:-)

and "she has my eyes That is a bit of a stretch. I don't see it. ;-)

(Linda) Does this work like TV, do you have to pay big bucks to run your trailer with an obvious blockbuster like HP? Like running a commercial during the Superbowl? I'm no expert, but I believe it is just the opposite. The theater owners have no choice and must run a "trailer" package provided by the distributors. The only ones who pay are the commercials before the movie trailers.

(Moon) and "she has my eyes That is a bit of a stretch. I don't see it. ;-) Now, now....he doesn't *look* old enough to have a daughter that age either. ;-)

(Linda) Does this work like TV, do you have to pay big bucks to run your trailer with an obvious blockbuster like HP? Like running a commercial during the Superbowl? (Karen) The theater owners have no choice and must run a "trailer" package provided by the distributors. It just happens to be from the same studio: Warner Bros... so it's in their interest.

"Happens" is no coincidence, as WB is the distributor as well. They put together a trailer package for the theater owners, promoting whatever they want. Yes, it is definitely in their interest.

(FanPam) Looking forward to it, and "she has my eyes." Can just picture him saying that. Good enough for me. It was a great line...he paused a bit before he said it (there were a couple, three people in the room). It was like he wanted to believe it so badly...(at least that's what I got from his two second performance, and we all know he's a good actor and can convey a lot in a little!). Anyway...Nothing will hold me back from seeing a CF movie, so am actually pleased that the trailer was not as bad as I anticipated (asked the DH if he was going to see it with me...and he just laughed! Imagine!! Guess I'm on my own again). ;-) "she has my eyes." (Moon)That is a bit of a stretch. I don't see it. ;-) Neither do I...I looked really hard after he said that to see something even similiar. ODB has the 'fine eyes'. Amanda's are just big and green (still, they are very pretty just not like ODB's). Don't think the kids in the theatre will catch that though! ;-) (Karen) The theater owners have no choice and must run a "trailer" package provided by the distributors. At the big houses, I have heard through friends that there is usually an 'attached trailer'. If you get a Disney film, it will come with one Disney trailer 'attached' that has to be shown with the film. Then the remaining trailers are usually a mix (possibly another Disney trailer, then one Paramount, one Warner Bros....never usually more than one). This is negotiated (on Mondays I found out) which trailers will go on which films. It is a big business and I have heard that negotiations can be really nasty, with distributors threatening to withhold a movie if a certain trailer is not attached to another movie...Since HP was Warner Bros, and WAGW is Warner Bros, it may have been the attached trailer...Karen is right, the commercials are the ones who pay...all others are negotiated through other deals. I think the WAGW trailer attached to HP is a good sign that this movie will be pushed hard...

Well, the WAGW trailer was *not* shown with HP at the theater I went to. So, I've either been ripped off or spared, depending upon your view of things.;-) I read that it is being shown on MTV and VH-1, on a show called ET (a version of Entertainment Tonight for the music video networks). That show airs again today on VH-1 at 6:30 p.m., Eastern Time.

I don't think my kids are going to want to go to the HP film so I won't be able to even quiz them about the trailer, if and when it gets to the backwoods part of the world that I live in! Lisa, going off humming them theme to the Beverly Hillbillies (insert kissing cousins winkie)

(Mari)So, I've either been ripped off or spared, depending upon your view of things.;-) In my view, sorry Mari, ripped off. Especially considering I had to drive an hour to your neck of the woods to see TIOBE before it opened here.:-)I don't think you'll want to drive an hour here just to see the trailer. I'm taping it off of VH1. Thanks for the info.

(Mari) I read that it is being shown on MTV and VH-1 Yippee!! Now I can see it. There was nothing else even remotely interesting (to me) at the complex nearest me showing HP.

The trailer just aired on VH-1, but considerably shorter than the HP one. And, of course,they cut out the "look" from the Bee Gees scene. Only a nanosecond longer and we would have had it. ARRRGH.

Black leather pants? I'll have to see that first; they're not my personal cup of tea (been there, done that, rock and roll cliche) Now delicious buttery medium brown suede, there's another matter...and I find the very idea of sleeveless tee-shirts quite depressing. Sorry to be a contrarian, ladies, but there it is. YMMV. Thanks for greeting the delurkers, I've been busy today!

I attended the BAFTA/LA screening of HP & CoS, and spoke to the film�s producer, David Heyman, about the film and the upcoming PoA. I very politely asked if Remus Lupin & Sirius Black had been cast yet � no, according to him. I then asked if I could suggest 2 actors that I have in mind for the roles: CF for Lupin & JN for Sirius. Fortunately, he didn�t ask who they were & what they�ve done before � oh, and I heard some sighs when I mentioned both their names.

Thank you Marianne......for your quick thinking. Excellent. Did he make any reply or facial expressions? Like grimaces or smiles?

So Marianne, what did he say in response...ok, duly noted, thanks.?

(Elizabeth) Black leather pants? I'll have to see that first; they're not my personal cup of tea Actually leather pants aren't my thing either as I prefer a nice fitting (read:not baggy) pair of jeans on someone, but leather is generally *very* fitting, so I wouldn't mind seeing that on him just once. ;-)

HAW! I've assisted in stuffing a pair or two in my time, though. Let's hope the costumers counted the tube socks, solely in the interest of truth in advertising, of course. ;)

(Elizabeth) Black leather pants? I'll have to see that first; they're not my personal cup of tea They will be after you see WEGW, Elizabeth I just saw the trailer on VHS 1...it's cute.V. short...only 2 minutes at best. Ole Swivel-Hips can really move his arse ! Film looks as if it's gonna be OK, Allison.LOL. Everyone takes a hit...bubbling Americans, stuffy Brits etc. No escapes. I taped it...if anyone isn't going to see HP and wants to see it, I'll be happy to start a tape train...email me. But it should be online soon.

He just said, "hmm" ... I took that to mean he'd consider them. Oh, I did blather on about how perfect they'd be ... within the age range of Alan Rickman, then backtracked, by saying "well maybe a decade younger than AR." Oops, didn't mean to insult AR, now I really will be banned from future BAFTA screenings.

(Odile) Looking at the offerings at my theater, I can't quite stomach the $8.50 for just a trailer... I was so bad....I was glancing at my watch thinking I could take a 'pee break' and run into the theatre next door to see it again (I had memorized all the HP times to do so...wanted to get the most out of my $7.75)! The only thing that stopped me was that it was so crowded in my theatre that it would have been a pain to step over all those kids to get back to my seat! (Elizabeth) Black leather pants? I'll have to see that first; they're not my personal cup of tea... Not exactly mine either, but.....he looked too damned handsome to hold it against him! ;-) And! Much better than a pair of leopard skin leggings IMO.... (Evelyn) Ole Swivel-Hips can really move his arse ! Definitely making up for the pants... ;-D

I thought he looked mighty fine in his leather! However many cows had to die . . . it was worth it.;-) He certainly has the Jagger strut down pat. BTW, that old photo she looks at right at the beginning could be Colin. As far as the movie goes, I've spoken my piece about this one and its ilk; see latest career discussion.:-( I'm not going to sweat it any more; he obviously isn't.

Shake shake shake! Shake your booty. Shake your booty! Holy Moly can that boy move. He doesn't need any dancing lessons. From the little bit of a clip, only the last move might've looked like the ending to an air guitar riff, when he went down on one knee. Must rewind this often. Ladies on the other side of the pond, you've never seen anything like this from him in the past. What I wouldn't give to see him at a party. :)

(Karen) Must rewind this often. Ladies on the other side of the pond, you've never seen anything like this from him in the past. What I wouldn't give to see him at a party. :) Especially with a drink or two under his belt!! ;-) Not the 'nervous' dancing he did in DG....he doesn't seem too self-conscious in WAGW, that's for sure! Wish the sequence was a bit longer...it was goofy/funny (IMO)...still, I think this one will be pushed a bit, so we may get more publicity type stuff. I look forward to more teasers as it gets closer to release!

(Mari) He certainly has the Jagger strut down pat. (Karen) the ending to an air guitar riff, when he went down on one knee. Oh my, this is a sight to be seen! ;-D Well I missed the show, so I may just wait til it's online even though it will be on a tiny screen. :(

I had another report of an earlier clip shown on TV last week sometime. A woman wrote me that her son came down from San Francisco and showed her a little clip he had recorded from television and then he asked her about "American Pie," wanting to know about it. He then showed her the clip of Colin in tight leather pants, dancing around. He then falls down after a girl asks him if was trying to copy the style of some '80s dancer (whose name she couldn't remember - could this be the BeeGees reference do you think?). Anyway it distracts Colin, so that he falls down. It vaguely sounds like the same clip but interpreted differently. Must rewind mine some more tomorrow. Shake shake shake. Shake your booty. Shake your booty. (my new theme song) ;-)

Found this interesting little tidbit about the WAGW trailer... Chamber of Secrets (Crowd Report) ("The most vocal audience I've ever been with") by Lee Tistaert Seeing Harry Potter & the Chamber of Secrets opening night at the Westwood Village in LA (1300 seats) at 10:45 pm (sold out), the crowd present was one rare of a kind. This was one of those audiences that just about every film buff or anyone obsessed with crowd reactions would die for. This turned out to be the most vocal audience I've ever been with. Matter of fact, it really felt like the experience I would have gotten at a midnight show of Star Wars. It was mostly a college aged demographic, with some mixes of older people in the bunch as well. And walking by the LONG line to get in at 9:30, I already had a vibe that this was going to be one hell of a rowdy bunch of people. Somewhere in the mix was What a Girl Wants, with the sighting of Colin Firth (Bridget Jones's Diary) getting quite a few cheers from the females in the room. In fact, almost every time his face was shown the same group of people (and it was quite a few) cheered. Of course, when the trailer wrapped up there was a vocal battle between the guys and the girls with cheers and "Boo!"'s. Lee's Movie Info He reviewed all the trailers there including the new HG/SB movie which had a tepid response.

V. interesting report, Dorine. Never imagined anyone would write up crowd reactions to film trailers. But I definitely enjoyed this one. Cheers from the females at Colin's every appearance!! Hoorah!

Mari, you're not the only one who was ripped off by not getting a WAGW trailer; so was I! ARGH! Although, it's probably a good thing that it wasn't there. I don't have access to this place on weekends, so I would have been completely unprepared for a leather-clad CF; DH would not have been too happy about his wife hyperventilating because she just saw CF in leather pants on the big screen :) Thanks for the screen captures, ladies! Am v. jealous of FO'C in that scene; not only does she get hair time, but neck time as well!

(Karen), Never imagined anyone would write up crowd reactions to film trailers. But I definitely enjoyed this one. Me too! Thanks, Dorine! Mari, I missed the VH1 preview. Do you know if it will run again. I would like to tape for slow-mo action. ;-)

Thanks Mari for the heads up on the trailer.Would have missed it otherwise. I dunno...I still like the "Banana "routine he did in TEP, even though he was a little porky then.Maybe song and dance is the way to go...I just watched Jeremy Northam and Regis singing a duet on the R&K show. JN has a beautiful tenor voice. A pity he'll be lip-syncing on Sunday night's Dean Martin show.

In fact, almost every time his face was shown the same group of people (and it was quite a few) cheered LOL, thanks for this, Dorine! Don't you love the Internet? Critiques of crowd reactions to movie trailers! This guy has found himself a niche. For those who couldn't catch the trailer on VH1, maybe ET will run it tonight.

O.K., crossing fingers and hoping this works!! As Karen says, "Shake shake shake"

Dang it!! Let's try that again...

Sorry all...one last try...

Oh for the love of Pete, 2 pics from the WAGW trailer are over on CF Fantasy Women site in Photos... Bowing head and slinking out...

Oh Maria, don't fret!!!! What is the link????? ;)

2 leather pics at http://groups.msn.com/ColinFirthFantasyWomen/home Have at it!!

Thanks Maria, very much. Hummmm, fuzzy hard to tell out of context. First impressions, YUCK! But, quite possibly when it is all put together it will be 'funny' and 'entertaining'. Am I sounding upbeat? It does seem like his role is bigger than we might have thought. Then again, maybe not.

Don't know if this has any new news From pfd.co.uk Mon 18 Nov GIRL WITH A PEARL EARRING Shooting starts in Luxembourg next Monday on GIRL WITH A PEARL EARRING (Archer Street / Pathe). This is director Peter Webber�s first feature film. Eduardo Serra is director of photography. Adapted from Tracy Chevalier�s bestselling novel about Vermeer�s relationship with his maidservant and model, it stars Colin Firth, Scarlett Johansson, Essie Davis and Tom Wilkinson.

This is director Peter Webber�s first feature film. I know there are some who have posted trepidation over this being his first film, but he could do quite well with it. Look at Christopher Nolan and Memento. Irregardless whether you (a general "you") liked it or not, it was IMO an extremely well done movie. Quite complicated. No way of knowing til it's done. Experience doesn't always make a good movie. And re the trailer pics, while it's hard to tell by their quality, while I noticed some definition in his arms, and I found them very amusing, I find he looks *very* thin. On the border of too thin for my liking. But then the pics aren't very clear. Will have to wait to see for myself.

(Lisa) Hummmm, fuzzy hard to tell out of context. First impressions, YUCK! But, quite possibly when it is all put together it will be 'funny' and 'entertaining'. Am I sounding upbeat? Don't despair Lisa! This scene only lasts seconds, and he looks AFG (nod to Evelyn) in the rest of the trailer....He was in most all of the scenes in the trailer so....

(Dorine) And re the trailer pics, while it's hard to tell by their quality, while I noticed some definition in his arms, and I found them very amusing, I find he looks *very* thin. On the border of too thin for my liking. But then the pics aren't very clear. I agree totally. It is hard to tell, but he definitely looks quite thin. I wish he'd gain a little weight, and work out. *sigh* Not that he doesn't always look AFG to me, but a little more weight and some definition would make him look even better, IMO.

(Lisa) Hummmm, fuzzy hard to tell out of context. First impressions, YUCK! The scene could be v. funny. And as Jeannie said many great actors have gone on to meaty roles after comedic films. (Jeannie: we forgot Dustin Hoffman in "Tootsie")But I know what you mean, Lisa. This genre of a film always depicts parents as idiots; which is what is so appealing to the young. I hate to see people laughing *at* ODB. Though he was brilliant as Lord Wessex. But then Tom Stoppard wrote that script ;-)

Really now, ladies, how on earth can you complain when you see that tush wiggling? Be glad it didn't look like that! Write this one down. Mark this date. Karen is happy. :)

Thanks for the link Maria! Not a huge fan of leather pants in general, but on ODB I will make an exception. He can wear them anytime he wants (probably no room for the cell phone)! ;-) (KathyF) I agree totally. It is hard to tell, but he definitely looks quite thin. I wish he'd gain a little weight, and work out. *sigh* Not that he doesn't always look AFG to me, but a little more weight and some definition would make him look even better, IMO. Ooooohhh...I like my boys long and lean! But he needs a tanning bed! And I second the AFG (or is that third?)!! ;-) As far as the dance ODB does....I can't knock it too much. I do the same thing almost everyday!! The DH is always catching me dancing around the house (sans leather...).

From a lady who lurks, there's a mention of Colin and Kelly Preston visiting the set of an [unmentionable] movie in this week's Entertainment Weekly. In the second paragraph he spoke of Christopher Columbus smiling at the "gaggle of visitors"...those being "Kelly Preston and Colin Firth, who are shooting the drama What a Girl Wants, nearby. And yes, it does say drama in the article. Thanks, Ada!

(Tress) Ooooohhh...I like my boys long and lean! Well, so do I. However, I wouldn't mind seeing a little definition there. I don't mean like Mr. Universe... a very little would suffice. Not that I don't like him just as he is, I just think he might be a little more marketable if he were slightly more buffed.

I went and looked again at the two captures. Arms are a tad skinny, but I too like a lean fellow. I see no one has really gone below the belt and I don't want to get a label here of starting certain kinds of conversations, but, well, what the hell, I will. The pants, Louisa, the pants. The fit in the crotch is very well defined in the one pic. But as far as the never-ending left/right debate, I'm not sure it could be said with any certainty. Yes, just call me gutter mind! (insert trashy winkie) I will say that there are several really nice shots of Colin in the collections there that I have never seen before. I'm not a member and can't post there, but if anyone from there reads here, Thanks very much!

(KathyF) I wouldn't mind seeing a little definition there. I don't mean like Mr. Universe... a very little would suffice. If he could keep the lean and get a Brad Pitt/Tom Cruise belly. hmmmmm.... Then, of course, I don't think we would benefit from it, but I bet LD sure would like it. ;-)

(Karen)could this be the BeeGees reference do you think?). The discussion of the BeeGees, was done at a dining room table while he and AB are eating. I don't know if this is the one you are referring to. I did not hear it come up at any other time in the trailer. I will say that tight leather pants will definitely allow us to continue our left/right discussions with greater clarity.

(lindak) I will say that tight leather pants will definitely allow us to continue our left/right discussions with greater clarity. LOL....but don't we have to keep the discussion PG-13?

(KathyF) However, I wouldn't mind seeing a little definition there. His personal trainer for BJD goes for that lean and hard-muscled look. Some of the articles during the BJD shoot talk about Cornel Whatshisname and the regimen he put Colin on to lose the baby fat. Not sure what kind of diet or exercise helps one lose one's jowls though. ;-) Remember, Colin said he had six-pack abs, so underneath that shirt (which he never seems to take off!!) he's got muscle definition. Still has skinny arms and legs, but I think his chest has improved. (Tress) but don't we have to keep the discussion PG-13? Huh? No, just on topic. ;-) (Linda) The discussion of the BeeGees, was done at a dining room table while he and AB are eating. Right, but the way they cross-cut dialogue and the dancing bit, it is hard to tell if the woman was describing the same scene. BTW, Bravo's From Page to Screen was interesting, but no Colin, except the bit from the movie where he's crashing the plane.

(Lisa) I see no one has really gone below the belt and I don't want to get a label here of starting certain kinds of conversations, but, well, what the hell, I will. The pants, Louisa, the pants. The fit in the crotch is very well defined in the one pic. But as far as the never-ending left/right debate, I'm not sure it could be said with any certainty. Now, where do I always look?! Can't help it, the eyes are just drawn in that direction. Pity the picture was so blurry and tiny, but I thought I saw something there. Am very much looking forward to a much better look at this! :-) (Tress) If he could keep the lean and get a Brad Pitt/Tom Cruise belly. I saw a photo of BP yesterday (open shirt) and thought how great it would be if ODB looked a little more like that. (Karen) Colin said he had six-pack abs, so underneath that shirt (which he never seems to take off!!) he's got muscle definition. What a very interesting thought!!

(me) I saw a photo of BP yesterday (open shirt) and thought how great it would be if ODB looked a little more like that. Hate to follow my own post, but realized I must elaborate. I meant, of course, only BP's chest/belly. Rest of BP does absolutely nothing for me. CF rules!

(MariaT)2 leather pics Has anyone else noticed that his hair looks different lenghts in each picture - in one, the hair is over his 'collar' and the other one, all you see is neck.

(Karen) Colin said he had six-pack abs, In my professions, "if it isn't documented, it didn't happen". So therefore, if I don't see this six pack, it's ain't there. I looong to be proven wrong ;-) (KathyF) I just think he might be a little more marketable if he were slightly more buffed. I don't even care if he's more marketable like that, I just think he'd look even more AFG with a little more meat on them bones. If I recall correctly, he said he doesn't like women too thin either. (Tress) But he needs a tanning bed! A tan would do him good. Like in the pics from the GQ Man of the Year awards event. Amazing pic(s) IMO. Karen you know which ones I mean, right? (Lisa) The pants, Louisa, the pants. The fit in the crotch is very well defined in the one pic. (Maria) This scene only lasts seconds I'm reserving judgement on that. But I guess leather pants don't generally have a lot of room in them for that to be just wrinkled material. I finally got to see the trailer tonight and it was on the largest screen I've seen movies on next to an IMAX. That dance scene went by so fast I could barely tell much of anything at all, even on such a big screen. In our trailer, there was no "she has my eyes" line. Least I didn't hear it. His hair is considerably darker and was so curly in one scene it looked like he had a perm on top. Seemed straighter in the other scenes.

(Dorine) A tan would do him good. Like in the pics from the GQ Man of the Year awards event. Amazing pic(s) IMO. I just found the pics...went to look because I could not remember. Very, very nice! He looks like he just got back from vacation. All tanned and relaxed! AFG!! In our trailer, there was no "she has my eyes" line. Oh gosh! It was great! I do hope they put the trailer online soon so we can play it over and over and over... His hair is considerably darker and was so curly in one scene it looked like he had a perm on top. Seemed straighter in the other scenes. Now, I didn't notice this...hmmmm...James Bond opens this weekend. Guess it's time for me to memorize the HP times again!

Great stuff Ladies!! Wonderful graphic Karen. LOL. Thank you for great pics. I, too, think he can do with just a bit more weight on him for definition. I noticed, however, that below the belt needs no enhancement. Seemed to be quite gorgeous just as it is. How funny are those pics. I'm wiping tears from my eyes. Doing Jager. He's really got a great sense of humor. Just another thing to love.

Many things to comment on. Please forgive me it's dinner/supper time here and my DH is gonna KILL me if he finds me up here. First, Some of them you do for money, some of them you do for love," he added. "This is a love child," This is a quote from James Colburn who passed away, listening to music with his wife. I had to post this as it was sooooo very similar to Cf's and Petter O'Toole (our favourtie imbiber's)way of thinking. Will recheck for hair lengths. But wait, who IS BD? Forgive me it must be obvious!

(Tress) But he needs a tanning bed! A tan would look a bit out of place in November in Islington ;-) Or Luxembourg :-)

(Dorine) In my professions, "if it isn't documented, it didn't happen". So therefore, if I don't see this six pack, it's ain't there. Very true. But now that I think about it, Cornel Chin, the trainer, was the one who broke it to the press. But independent verification would seem necessary. Personally, I like him lean like this. Tans make anyone look healthier, not just CF. I know the pics from the GQ awards (4 Sept 01) and he's even healthier looking a month prior at the Locarno FF, where he's wearing a polo shirt. http://www.spring.net/karenr/mdbro/bjdlff.html Here's the article about Lardy Darcy: http://www.spring.net/karenr/articles/express080600.html

I remember those pic from Locarno, but the GQ pics in comparison really blow me away. Really made me do a double take. Not as much as some others, but still. Cornel, from Bromley, Kent, was a little-known gym instructor when he landed the job of improving DiCaprio's physique for The Beach Was skimming that article about the trainer a couple of months ago again. It's hard to compare since CF doesn't really show enough, but while I'm not a particular fan of Leonardo, I instantly noticed his body in what I saw of clips from The Beach. Well done job by Cornel (and Leonardo). ;-) Wonder who worked on HG before BJD. Have to admit his bod was a revelation of sorts (as noted in his wet shirt scene). Not saying he necessarily does anything for me, but compared to how he used to be before he broke up with Liz Hurley, it was a massive improvement. And you could tell. Can't get a great idea with CF, cause he never takes his freakin' shirt off. ;-) (*hint, hint Colin*).

First, Some of them you do for money, some of them you do for love," he added. "This is a love child," (Lisa) from James Colburn who passed away, listening to music with his wife. I had to post this as it was sooooo very similar to Cf's and Petter O'Toole (our favourtie imbiber's)way of thinking. That was the first thing I thought of too when I was reading the news of this.

(me) the pics from the GQ Man of the Year awards event. Amazing pic(s) IMO. Pssst...Karen!....think you might have missed my hint. ;-)

Pssst!! I didn't miss it, but I've heard there are some "borrowers" out there, who need to look up the definition in a dictionary. Borrowing means you've *asked* someone's permission and you are expected to *return* said item.

(Dorine) In my professions, "if it isn't documented, it didn't happen". So therefore, if I don't see this six pack, it's ain't there. (Karen) Very true. But now that I think about it, Cornel Chin, the trainer, was the one who broke it to the press. But independent verification would seem necessary. This was all prior to BJD (and during)...I remember seeing a couple of pictures afterwards, and ODB looked a bit thicker. I thought it was kind of cute because I attributed the extra pounds to LD being pregnant. Several couples I know seemed to have gained weight together when the missus was going to have a baby. Anyway, if you don't keep up with it, you can lose that six-pack really fast. I would LOVE to be proved wrong....but, I'm gonna hold out for the documented proof as well. ;-)

(Dorine) In my professions, "if it isn't documented, it didn't happen". So therefore, if I don't see this six pack, it's ain't there. (Tress) Anyway, if you don't keep up with it, you can lose that six-pack really fast. I would LOVE to be proved wrong. (Dorine) Can't get a great idea with CF, cause he never takes his freakin' shirt off. ;-) (*hint, hint Colin*). He would be irresistable to me 6 pack or no, but I am with you Dorine, ditch the shirt already!

LOL..."Love Child-"WEGW Somehow that softens the blow ;-D

Just found these bits at a site called reelscreen, not sure if they are current but got excited that ODB was mentioned a couple of times... Hiking to Hollywood... the big screen adaptation of 'The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy' is back on track - again. The script, adapted by Douglas Adams from his own cult novel, has been through numerous re-writes, the Americans never quite sure what to make of hero Arthur Dent's uniquely British brand of tea-pot humour. No word yet on casting but you can safely say Colin Firth's name is doing the rounds... Carry on Doctor... Colin Firth is the latest name to be connected with BBC boss Greg Dyke's inspired British "blockbuster" version of 'Dr Who'. Budgeted at �15 million the film is set to be directed by Russell Mulcahy ('Highlander'). Final casting decisions are due to be announced in July, with shooting set to begin in autumn.

Sorry, dearie, to throw cold water on your excited state, but that is ancient stuff; British museum's territory ;-) I'm not sure if that site (reelscreen) really exists anymore or post current news.

(Karen) Sorry, dearie, to throw cold water on your excited state Karen, I'm afraid it will take more than cold water to de-excitulate(?) me...I'm afraid all the talk of ODB's googie on 166 has affected me...

This is news, sort of, since it covers a new TV program: Anyone watch the Bravo "Stage to Screen" last night? Good program with lots of the book...good comments by the cast and crew.....except for the gentleman my husband calls the "forgotten man." If it weren't for a very quick pic of the airplane crashing, you would never know Colin Firth was even in the movie. Still it was good to see it all again. Best explanation I have heard for awhile why the script was altered from the book - i.e. taking away the book's ending and relegating Kip to a more minor role. Kip was the major character in the book. Ondaatje explained that the reason Kip left Hannah in the book was because he read about the atomic bomb dropping on Japan and had to go home to his Asian roots. Minghella wanted the "family feeling" among the movie's groups to stay in the forefront, and felt that bringing in the atomic bomb broadened and changed the focus on the characters. Worth seeing if you can. It is repeated several times.

Hi everyone! I have some really good news. Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason has been put back on our production report. Preproduction dates are 2/3/03-5/9/03 with the shoot starting 5/12/03 and ending 8/15/03. The tentative release date is April 2004. The last script spec was submitted last week so I'm very pleased. Life has been extra crazy and hectic these last few months so I can only stop by when I actually have something of value to add. We're gearing up for Oscar prep and the holiday releases and everything else in between. And in the midst of all that, I have a wedding to plan...mine :) Mom always said to stay away from actors. I should listen to her more often. :) Take care everyone!

(Hola Lola) Preproduction dates are 2/3/03-5/9/03 with the shoot starting 5/12/03 and ending 8/15/03. The tentative release date is April 2004. Yippeee! Thanks for the good news Lola!! And congratulations on your upcoming wedding!

(HolaLola) Mom always said to stay away from actors. Moms aren't always right! Actors can make lovely husbands. Best wishes, Lola!

(Karen) Pssst!! I didn't miss it LOL, I thought not. I've heard there are some "borrowers" out there, who need to look up the definition in a dictionary. Borrowing means you've *asked* someone's permission and you are expected to *return* said item. Well done ;) Thanks so much Hola (or is it Lola for short?)!! And congratulations!! We don't know who's directing yet correct? Hopefully we'll know more about the GC involvement soon, too.

All the best, Lola! A wedding... and TEOR the very best news!

Lola! Thanks for the excellent news! You are a glutton for punishment, though--planning a wedding AND holiday & Oscar releases??!! You'll need a loooong honeymoon to recover :)

It is a huge injustice when a Drooler in London goes to see HP and instead of the treat North American folks get, I get a Hugh Grant preview. Argh. However, if the news of EOR is good, then at least I can plan how long I need to stay in this city before I return to civilization =).

Wow, Lola! Congratulations! Does the lucky groom like anything like Colin? (not wondering this because if I was single I'd be looking for someone who does or anything. : x) Thanks so much for the TEOR report. It's sooo nice having an insider to keep us up to date! (hugging poor sweet Emmabean) I agree that it's a huge injustice. Rika and I have decided to purchase a summerhouse in London just so we can visit you and.. ummm.. yeah, that's it, just visit you. ;) I need her because she's nice and stable, and she needs me.. because, ummm.. because I give her someone she has to keep an eye on. We wouldn't want her to become bored.

Lola, great news about EOR!! Thank you... Congratulations on upcoming nuptials...

OH, thank you Lola for TEoR news, and congratulations to you. Best of luck. (Jeanie)Rika and I have decided to purchase a summerhouse in London Ahem...wot about me?

(HolaLola) I have some really good news. Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason has been put back on our production report. Hurrah! This is v. good news, indeed. My very best wishes to you and your intended. :-)

Thanks for the news, Hola, and congrats. I have a very special cake in my collection that was used only once before for a bridal shower here. ;-)

Thank you for the greatest of news Hola. Best of everything to you and your man. Maybe girls with a bit of luck he might do a bit of publicity for WAGW. Scheduling seems to accommodate it. Let's hope.

Hola Lola!!!! Thanks for passing on the news. Best wishes for your future happiness. Please post about your hens night!

Mom always said to stay away from actors. I should listen to her more often. :) Oh, I dunno, I think Hola Lola Clooney has a great ring to it!;-) Best of luck to you and your lucky groom, L! Happy to hear EOR is back on the docket--given the schedule, seems like this will be CF's next, after GWAPE.

(Mari)Happy to hear EOR is back on the docket-- April 2004 release is a looooong ways off.Four years after the first Bridget. (Mari)...seems like this will be CF's next, after GWAPE. Five months off...again? Anybody can say they work continuously on that schedule.

From Megastar: All you need is love, actually Oscar-winning Laura Linney is out and about in London filming next year�s Brit flick hit-in-waiting, Love Actually. But that�s not all. There�s even talk of a meaty cameo for the uncrowned queen of London celebdom � MADONNA. Clever clogs screen writer Richard Curtis (Four Weddings, Notting Hill) is directing the series of 10 love stories, in a variety of locations from Kenya to France to Chiswick, in west London. And Linney, who starred with Jim Carrey in The Truman Show and bagged an Academy award (sic; was a nomination) for You Can Count On Me, teams up once again with man-mountain Irish actor Liam Neeson in the movie. The pair first worked together on Broadway, where Linney cut her thesp teeth before switching to big screen and bigger moolah. A star-speckled Love Actually cast includes dithering Hugh Grant, inscrutable Colin Firth and, er, Martine McCutcheon. Martine plays a cockney barmaid with a thuggish publican husband, before she cops it in a traffic accident in a bleak square in London�s East End. Sorry - wires crossed there. She in fact plays a tea lady to Grant�s British Prime Minister. Alan �the actor� Rickman also takes a major role, while there are noteworthy eye-candy cameos for supermodel Claudia Schiffer, Shannon �American Pie� Elizabeth and ubiquitous teen-flick floozy Denise Richards.

ubiquitous teen-flick floozy Denise Richards. *snort* Thanks, Mari. That's the same one that had an item about Keira Knightly a couple of days ago because of Zhivago and called Colin "Mr Wet T-Shirt 1857." Is that when they think P&P is set? I'm not too sure I'd like to see that Mr Darcy in 1857 with a wet shirt. Let's see how old would he be? About 70? ;-)

(Mari) man-mountain Irish actor Liam Neeson translation please??

He's big as a mountain????

Saw him on stage last spring in "The Crucible" and he eees one beeeg maan.Towering. And according to Julia Roberts..."legendary" in...ahem..."parts".

(Evelyn)Five months off...again? Anybody can say they work continuously on that schedule. LOL, well, I'm figuring GWAPE will film until at least the end of January. Some actors would work in another project between then and May, but with him, it's doubtful. That's ok, will leave him time to come over and do the talk show circuit for WAGW and, God willing, Hope Springs.;-) I find I actually enjoy repeatedly watching his TV interviews more than I do his movies. Pfft! There it is, I've confessed.;-)

(Jeanie)Rika and I have decided to purchase a summerhouse in London just so we can visit you and.. ummm.. yeah, that's it, just visit you. ;) Jeanie, Rika, I have a pull-out couch, an A-Z that covers Barnsbury and the rest of Islington, normally great sleuthing skills (that have alas not kicked in since I arrived too well), movie premiere scoping experience, and lots of free time =). Hey, I also serve free trade organic coffee. Anyone else coming to London, Tanja will vouch that I am not a bad hostess!

Err make that fair trade. Mixing my US-Canadian border relations with working conditions in coffee countries. Bad habit. Sorry =).

(Mari), will leave him time to come over and do the talk show circuit for WAGW and, God willing, Hope Springs.;-) I find I actually enjoy repeatedly watching his TV interviews more than I do his movies. Pfft! There it is, I've confessed.;-) LOL! That's because you don't have to share him. ;-) Since WAGW will get wide release, will he finally get Letterman and Leno?

Yo, Karen! You get 2 nice mentions on the Amanda Bynes website, but you'd better get after Robair to put up some CF snappies! We want more than the back of his head.;-) "We have now at the WAGW pages a trailer gallery featuring 35 images from the trailer in all their 640x480 glory! We want to thank the fine folks at firth.com, which is to Colin Firth what this site is to Amanda Bynes, for supplying the video we worked from. We'd reckon that nobody else with the least interest in Amanda Bynes has anything like this on their sites yet. So we're pretty proud, you betcha! The trailer itself should still make it online in a day or two...maybe tonight!"

Sorry, forgot to list the URL. Scroll about half way down and click on trailer gallery. http://members.fortunecity.com/robair/abnow/index.htm

D'oh! I should have known the boss was on top of it! Great stuff, Karen, thanks. http://www.firth.com/wagw_gal1.html

How on earth did you get my new page listed before I did? Yes, he made caps 'specially for us. I didn't leave them in their bigger state because they're more blurry that way. But I'll check to see how he's done his.

The size you have looks fine. My fave (of the non-booty variety, anyway;-):

Thanks, Mari for pointing out Amanda's website and Karen's page which I obviously hadn't looked for/at in a while. Ooh, I like that one above!

Thanks everybody for the very sweet and kind well wishes. I'm very touched. Mari, Clooney won't be my last name, nor Affleck. LOL But my honey is much cuter anyway. :) As soon as I have further information regarding LA and TEOR I will be sure to stop by with the update. I'm very pleased that we've inked Leo DiCaprio for a new project to be directed by Robert DeNiro. It's these types of projects (not necessarily this particular role) that I would love to see Colin star in. He is way too fine an actor for mediocre films. But I understand the whys and hows of his particular situation and you can never beat a working actor. To the American's in the forum....HAPPY THANKSGIVING!! Take care everyone.

Thanks for checking in , Lola...we know you're busy and appreciate your news bits. Karen, your page is wooonderrrful! Esp the finale of the "booty number". If he ever loses his day job....;-)

Really great page Karen. Thank you. Where did you get your pic Mari? I haven't seen that one.

Very nice Karen (and Mari). You guys are on top of things. I gotta say, the AGF man is looking a little older than he did. (Now that I read that it sounds stupid!) It might be the quality of the pics lifted from the video. But I see some bags under the eyes and just a general "older" look about him than I don't recall from BJD. And, who was mentioning how long it was going to be between BJD and TEoR??? I have no problem with a maturing man, but I couldn't help but notice it.

I wanted to share my trailer-viewing story. I found a multiplex where HP was playing in three theaters, with start times 20 minutes apart. Perfect, I thought - three shots at the WAGW trailer for the price of one. Oddly enough, though, the trailers varied from one theater to another. The Kangaroo Jack and Two Weeks Notice trailers were shown in all three theaters, WAGW in two of the three, and LOTR in only one of the three. At the first showing, a woman and her son (who was 8 or so) came in during the previews and stood in the back by the door. As soon as the WAGW trailer ended, they left. I'm guessing she had taken her son to an earlier showing of HP that had just ended, and she was popping in for a second serving of CF before heading home.

Agree, Marie, I really like that one too..

(Lisa) I gotta say, the AGF man is looking a little older than he did. It might be the quality of the pics lifted from the video. But I see some bags under the eyes and just a general "older" look about him than I don't recall from BJD. I have no problem with a maturing man, but I couldn't help but notice it. Funny you say that, because I thought the same thing in several closeups in the trailer. This is the only pic I could remotely discern what you described. Actually I thought he looked much younger in the pic that Mari posted compared to the others. Also, it almost looks like he has on another shirt under this one. (yes, I know, a stupid observation....oh, well). And I like when he unbuttons that second button. (Of course it would be nice if he kept going ;)) I think he (and other men) look more relaxed that way.

(Lisa)I gotta say, the AGF man is looking a little older than he did. (Now that I read that it sounds stupid!) LOL. Not at all...( I'm glad you said it first.) But I think it's the fact that he's thinner than ever...almost gaunt. But it's worth it for that "Shake Your Booty" scene. (Rika)I'm guessing she had taken her son to an earlier showing of HP that had just ended, and she was popping in for a second serving of CF before heading home. How funny. Next time run out and sign her up for Drool..sounds like kindred soul.

(Evelyn) But I think it's the fact that he's thinner than ever...almost gaunt. Gaunt....that's the exact word I was thinking of, but didn't really want to say that. Thought maybe I was being a bit severe. But it's worth it for that "Shake Your Booty" scene. LOL, it will be a sight to behold I'm sure. ;-)

Kudos to you, Rika, for attempting a triple helping of CF trailers! Too bad you only got one, and you had to sit through the Kangaroo Jack trailer *shudder* Mari & Karen thanks for the captures. Very yummy, but I do think he could stand to gain about 5-10 lbs, just enough to take the gauntness away. (Dorine)And I like when he unbuttons that second button. (Of course it would be nice if he kept going ;)) You really shouldn't mention those buttons, you know. I'll be distracted all day, LOL!

Ladies, just for reference as far as "aging and gauntness" is concerned... have we seen any upclose pictures of him since this movie was made, and if so, can you direct me to them? I'll explain myself later... thanks!

I'm going to pull a 'Rika' this Friday. Going to see the WAGW preview...I mean the new James Bond flick...and catch WAGW (hopefully twice....must remember to wear watch and drink lots of Diet Coke so the hubby does not get too suspicious...Jinx should distract him...) ;-) (Evelyn) But I think it's the fact that he's thinner than ever...almost gaunt. But it's worth it for that "Shake Your Booty" scene. Holidays are coming up! I've heard 5-10 lb weight gain is average....though if the booty is still shaking, it may not stick! ;-) Jeanie...how about the "Love Actually" pics? Taken in the beginning of September (and he looks AFG). The picture in France at the zoo is fairly close-up...

(Hola) Clooney won't be my last name, nor Affleck. LOL But my honey is much cuter anyway. :) OK, so should we be checking out future issues of InStyle's celebrity wedding issues? ;-)

(Pam)Where did you get your pic Mari? I haven't seen that one. Pam, you have to force your eyes off the booty pics.;-) It's the third one in the left column. (Hola) Clooney won't be my last name, nor Affleck. LOL But my honey is much cuter anyway. :) Omigod--she's nabbed Firth!;-) ;-) Re: the uber skinniness--I was just discussing this with someone yesterday . . .

(Tress)I'm going to pull a 'Rika' this Friday. Going to see the WAGW preview... LOL, so am I, tomorrow. I can pop between two theaters for HP just across the hall from each other. Hey, If I can see TIOBE 13 times, I can certainly do the WAGW trailer proud, too. Oh, I don't know, I thought he looked AFG in the trailer, especially in the BeeGees scene. (Lisa)And, who was mentioning how long it was going to be between BJD and TEoR??? I believe it was Evelyn who mentioned that the other day. I think she said four years-for filming perhaps. But BJD premiered March, 2001 and TEoR is, hopefully, to premiere March, 2004. Still looks AFG to me, and I also thought he looked extremely good in the LA pictures.

lindak� Still looks AFG to me I'm with you. I think he just looks better every time I see him. Sigh. Guess I've just got it bad...

(Mari) Pam, you have to force your eyes off the booty pics.;-) It's the third one in the left column. LOL How'd you know. Is it possible they've got him made up to look older? He never looks his age. After all he's supposed to be a little older looking to be her dad IMO. Looks the emobodiment of the Temple to me, as usual. No one more handsome.

(Pam) Is it possible they've got him made up to look older? I guess it's possible, although it didn't look like makeup. I actually thought he looked a little tired in certain scenes in TIOBE. Perhaps Luca is keeping him awake at night. Or maybe Livia ;-)

(KathyF) Perhaps Luca is keeping him awake at night. Or maybe Livia ;-) LOL....Or perhaps he's been lurking...and he is just v. v. scared (and worrying about his shoes, and his collars, and his pants...and...)! ;-) I like our mature boy...think he keeps getting better and better. He does look a bit tired in the blue shirt pic, but I thought he looked great in the actual previews...didn't notice that he looked older or tired. But then again, I had sucked in my breath and hadn't been breathing so the oxygen wasn't reaching the brain. ;-)

A Prayer to the Universe RE: GWAPE, Luxembourg, Europe Dear Lord, Please don't let them put him in a red fright wig today. AMEN My introduction to follow.......kathleen

You mean like this? Hmmm, maybe not, but Kathleen!! Pssst! This is the lady who suggested the BWAPE pic. I think she was scared by the Halloween one too. ;-)

Karen, You certainly have a way of targeting a girl's worst fears. Will not sleep tonight. The Horror!!! Bozo Vermeer of Delft. The shoes Louisa!!! Kathleen

WELCOME, KATHLEEN! great idea about the BWAPE picture! I'm praying with you (and Lord, if it must be a red wig, please don't let him look like a Bozo!)

Wilkomen Kathleen! Nice to have another firthette. (Tress), Or perhaps he's been lurking...and he is just v. v. scared (and worrying about his shoes, and his collars, and his pants...and...)! ;-) Now that's more like it! LOL! you forgot his kissing;-)

Welcome Kathleen!!! (KathyF) I'm praying with you (and Lord, if it must be a red wig, please don't let him look like a Bozo!) There are two paintings by Vermeer that scholars believe to be self-portraits (and his hair is wild!). One is called "The Procuress" and the other is called "The Art of Painting". I've looked at pictures of both, and the hair color is v. v. close to ODB's natural color!! Griet describes Vermeer in GWAPE as having hair the red of brick washed by rain.... The Art of Painting: http://www.mystudios.com/vermeer/24/vermeer-art-of-painting.html The Procuress (Vermeer possibly far left): http://www.mystudios.com/vermeer/4/vermeer-procuress.html We can only hope ODB isn't in a wild wig in bright red (but it looks brown to me in the pics...)!

closing...sorry

Oh my! Indeed, is Vermeer the one whose hand is nestled on a feminine attribute? Haw! A little grope here, some slap and tickle there, and maybe we will get a little of what we have been complaining about in GWAPE. Actually the wildest hair in the second painting is the man on the left from our view. He will have to wear a wig to get the length historically accurate.

Hey! I forgot to say Hey! to Kathleen. Good job on the BWAPE pic!

(Tress)must remember to wear watch and drink lots of Diet Coke so the hubby does not get too suspicious Didn't even realize Bond was coming out this week! I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out a plausible reason to go see HP again, just to attempt to catch the WAGW trailer. Now, I can entice the dh w/ Halle Berry, so no problem. Will have to time previews appropriately, of course. I checked out the Vermeer self-portraits, and I must say I'm getting a little nervous about the hair. We ain't talking about just-rolled-out-of-bed Paul Ashworth big hair, oh no. Welcome Kathleen! Thanks for the BWAPE suggestion; it's a much-appreciated change from the Halloween pic!

(Lisa) Actually the wildest hair in the second painting is the man on the left from our view. That's who scholars believe is Vermeer (not the groper...Catharina would have been PO'd don't you think?? ;-D). Can you see ODB with that hair-do? Paul Ashworth does the 1660s!!! According to a book I have, The Procuress (Vermeer's version) may be based on a painting by van Baburen also called The Procuress. That version was owned by Maria Thins.

Karen convinced me to post. In addition to being an excellent journalist, she is also very adept at gentle persuasion. As to Austen, Firth and Fan-fic... I cannot fix the spot or the words which laid the foundation. It was too long ago. I was in the middle of it before I knew it had begun. Gives me the chills everytime. Beautiful, n'est-ce pas? Yeah, that's right! I have a serious jones for the guy. Recent history: Have just completed a four year project in Washington DC. My husband and I are looking for new worlds to conquer. Hence, my time to sit on my bum and write to all of you. Am supposed to be packing up my house. Just finished watching Monarch of the Glen re-run. We're talking serious decadence here. Love that kilt action, Archie! (Hi Lisa!!) Should be packing up my videos, dvds, cds, books (and now my computer!!!) FIRST. Maybe then I would get something accomplished. If there is a square cm. of CF that you have not dissected thoroughly perhaps I can assist. You all are way, way, way, way around the bend but I'll try to catch up. Thanks for the warm welcome. Kathleen

Evelyn who mentioned that the other day. I think she said four years-for filming perhaps. But BJD premiered March, 2001 and TEoR is, hopefully, to premiere March, 2004. (*in Bridget mode* "Silly Evelyn...of course" (and she even went to the premiere.!) Thank you, Linda...he'll be 44, not 45 Hi Kathleen

Welcome Kathleen, glad to have you aboard. (Evelyn)Thank you, Linda...he'll be 44, not 45 The way this is going he maybe be 50 before it begins. Your welcome, BTW. I will hold my breath until I see the trailer for GWAPE. Oh GAWD, please no awful hair. Looking on the bright side, two viewings of the WAGW trailer tomorrow, Hurrah.

WELCOME KATHLEEN Nice to have you here.

Wow, are we ever a tough group to please! He's too pale.... too thin.... looking old.... not buff enough. Isn't it time to fret about the dreaded LBS? I do see the tired-looking eyes in some of the still shots, but on the big screen in the trailer I thought he looked wonderful. And I thought so even before the Black Leather Boogie deprived my brain of oxygen. (moonstar) Kudos to you, Rika, for attempting a triple helping of CF trailers! Too bad you only got one, and you had to sit through the Kangaroo Jack trailer *shudder* I actually got two out of three WAGW's in my attempt at a trifecta, so I was a fairly happy camper. But, yeah, I had to watch the Kangaroo Jack trailer three times within 40 minutes, so I paid a high price for my fun. (Tress) I'm going to pull a 'Rika' this Friday. Oh, I'm so proud! An obsessive behavior named after me!!!!!!!! :-) (Evelyn) Thank you, Linda...he'll be 44, not 45 43, I believe, since he won't turn 44 till September 2004. And when it's filmed (if it stays on schedule) he'll be 42, same as now (vs. 39 when the BJD shoot started). Not that I am detail-oriented or compulsive about math. :-) Hi, Kathleen! Glad to have you here, and I couldn't agree more about that prayer for no red hair in GWAPE. Jack Worthing would have been here to join me in the welcome, but he's too busy posing in front of the mirror right now (hmmm.... posing in the mirror.... is a pattern developing???)

Rika, love the picture. Did you by any chance cut off the bottom of the picture, or is this it? I ask this very politely, as I'm looking into the mirror from the very top of my screen to see if I can see anything else. Help!! Kathleen, welcome, enjoy your stay here in obsession land.

Hi, this is a message to all you aussies out there - has TIOBE been released here yet ?? If not, when ?? If so, where is it available ?? Am hoping that DH gets it for me for Xmas and have to make his job easier !! Thanks

Rika, Thanks for the Jack Worthing picture. Love that flat tum-tum! I'm with you. Can't see much to complain about. I think that lighting, makeup can make a big difference from photo to photo. It took a long while for the babyfat in his face to go away! (Not that I complained about that either).A more mature CF! He has to keep his weight down to get the best possible parts these days. He looks younger when he is slender. Also he can wear almost any costume they put on him and look fantastic. If he couldn't act - what a model!!!Please don't take him back to the Pillsbury Doughboy days of English Patient!

Rika!! Thanks for the great picture! What on earth is on the table on the paper, a Dungeoness crab? Maybe I'm just hungry...yes for the crab! Although I could always go for a Googie burger...

I sense this "chatroom" banter is headed toward 166. Please remember which topic you are on. (Kathleen) He has to keep his weight down to get the best possible parts these days. He looks younger when he is slender. Also he can wear almost any costume they put on him and look fantastic. Exactly.

(Kathleen) Also he can wear almost any costume they put on him and look fantastic. And if he has to wear the Lord Wessex style bloomers for GWAPE, he'll need to be slender! We'll get to see his skinny legs in tights too! I can't wait to see the costumes for this one (I'm being serious, actually. I am very excited about this film....hope my little dreams aren't dashed and ODB does not end up in a flaming red wig wearing satin puffy pants)!

A warm welcome to Kathleen! Thanks to Diana for the following: Colin appears in "Forever Ealing," a documentary about Ealing Studios, airing on TCM Thursday, December 5th, at 5 pm and 8 pm. FOREVER EALING Turner Classic Movies will celebrate the history and influence of England's Ealing Studios with the U.S. premiere of Forever Ealing. Narrated by Daniel Day-Lewis, whose grandfather, Sir Michael Balcon, ran the studio during its heyday, the documentary explores the enduring popularity of the quirky studio responsible for defining British comedy on the big screen. The documentary features interviews with Ealing Studios' stars, craftsmen, and contemporary filmmakers and actors who were influenced by the studio, as well as clips from many of the great films produced at Ealing. To accompany the documentary, TCM will also feature 17 of the best-known Ealing Studios films throughout the month, airing every Thursday . . . Contemporary directors Martin Scorsese, Terry Gilliam, Stephen Frears, and John Landis, and stars Rupert Everett, Colin Firth, and Lord Richard Attenborough will discuss how the films made at Ealing have entertained and influenced them. Scorsese relates that KIND HEARTS AND CORONETS was an influence on his film Goodfellas (1990), and Gilliam discusses the inspiration THE MAN IN THE WHITE SUIT (1951) gave him for his film Brazil (1985). Landis shares his views of the studio, including the thought that "Ealing created wit of an extremely refined, stylized level." Other interviewees include Ealing actors Jill Balcon and Derek Bond, film historian Philip Kemp, and new studio head Barnaby Thompson . . .

Thanks, Mari and Diane.

Thanks, Mari and Diana, for the news. Colin sure does his bit to help out his buddies at FF/Ealing Studios.

Welcome Kathleen! From the pic of Vermeer that Tress sent us to, CF will get to wear yet another great squishy hat. Thanks, Mari, for the Ealing info. Our dumb cable co. doesn't carry TMC (or YES for Yankee games, but that is another subject!) so I will need a taping from a pal. For the original Man in a White Suit: http://www.murphsplace.com/guinness/white.html

(Rika) Wow, are we ever a tough group to please! He's too pale.... too thin.... looking old.... not buff enough. Isn't it time to fret about the dreaded LBS? I do see the tired-looking eyes in some of the still shots, but on the big screen in the trailer I thought he looked wonderful... Here, here. Rika. I'm sure he looks AFG and I love him "just as he is." Thank you for lovely pic.

I heard that the chargirl living in the house in Islington was supposed to practice sleeping in a hole in the basement and grinding something in the attic while the occupants were away. Any confirmation?

Now now, I posted originally that I thought he was looking 'older'. I never said it was a bad thing, just an observation. Some of us have discussed this in greater detail and have decided that the AFG man might be tired. I accept that could be the case. In any event, he's fine by be any way he comes. (Opps!) (kathleen) I heard that the chargirl living in the house in Islington was supposed to practice sleeping in a hole in the basement and grinding something in the attic while the occupants were away. Any confirmation? Good God how am I to answer that? Maybe you mean someone else?

(Lisa) Now now, I posted originally that I thought he was looking 'older'. I never said it was a bad thing, just an observation. Some of us have discussed this in greater detail and have decided that the AFG man might be tired. I accept that could be the case. In any event, he's fine by be any way he comes. (Opps!) (hooking my cane around lisa's neck and hauling her back to the Peanut Gallery!! LOL!) As far as HWM looking older, well... (I know, I know, I'm overly emotional) but he looks sad in some of the photos. Perhaps it's part of the character he plays in "Gidget Goes To London". I'm gonna go look closer at the LA pics and see if I see it in those.

(Lisa) Now now, I posted originally that I thought he was looking 'older'. I never said it was a bad thing, just an observation. Some of us have discussed this in greater detail and have decided that the AFG man might be tired. I accept that could be the case. In any event, he's fine by be any way he comes. (Opps!) I agree with *everything* you said ;-)

(Lisa) Good God how am I to answer that? Apologies. Spent some time at GWAPE book discussion today. Vermeer's servant girl sleeps in a hole in the basement and does some other chores for him. Will not reveal anything further. Oops!!!

http://www.delux.lu/pages/aboutus/aboutuspage1.html Info about GWAPE. Maybe the backlot of Venice doubles for Dutch canal scenes.

Yes, that's what I thought, but the architecture is so different, when you take a look at the pics of the backlot. Thanks, Bethan

I agree. I wonder how they are going to transform Venice into Delft? I imagine the canals were the draw to this set. Excellent sleuthing Bethan! Anyone planning a trip to Luxembourg? Two links to Vermeer's paintings of Delft www.mystudios.com/vermeer/7/vermeer-little-street.html www.mystudios.com/vermeer/13/vermeer-view-of-delft.html

Delft doesn't look like Venice at all, not even close. A lot of the old houses in Delft have remained, so I think they can easily film scenes in Delft itself.

(Kathleen) Anyone planning a trip to Luxembourg? I found Contern on my map, it's about 140 miles from where I live. I highly doubt I'd be able to get in though;) Interesting find, Bethan, I'd been wondering why they were filming in Luxembourg of all places.

It's all a matter of tax credits and financial incentives as to why Luxembourg was chosen over the Netherlands. I would've thought that a second unit would go to film some exteriors in Delft; that might still happen, but it does look like any major, outdoor canal shots will be done on the "Venice" backlot. But from the book, that would be mainly Griet's scenes. Right? Vermeer is never outside as I recall. Of course, that could be changed from the book. One lady from the Netherlands wrote me to say she and a friend had tried to become an extra, but was too late in the process. That would've been the only way to get on the studio's lot...legitimately. However, Colin does have to be staying somewhere nearby. Correct? Next week I'll ask if they will be doing "any" location work in the real Delft and see if I get an answer.

(Tineke), I found Contern on my map, it's about 140 miles from where I live. I highly doubt I'd be able to get in though;) You never know until you try. ;-D Think of Dorine getting into the post premiere party of TIOBE. We need a rep. on set. I hope you're able to get soemone, Karen.

(Tineke)I found Contern on my map, it's about 140 miles from where I live. I highly doubt I'd be able to get in though;) (Moon) You never know until you try. ;-D Think of Dorine getting into the post premiere party of TIOBE. (attempting to figure out the price of shipping for a large potted plant being sent to Tineke's house)

Jeanie, I think we need to factor in the cost of shipping Dorine over as well! Thanks for the news, Bethan and Karen.

(Tineke) I found Contern on my map, it's about 140 miles from where I live. I highly doubt I'd be able to get in though;) , Ohhhh....you're so close! Practically breathing the same air as ODB! ;-) (Karen) But from the book, that would be mainly Griet's scenes. Right? Vermeer is never outside as I recall. Just a couple times that I can think of...the scenes are so brief that if they film them, they could probably do them in an afternoon....He walks up to Griet and Tanneke one time while they are out front sewing (after Griet made the changes to his 'set') and there is another time that Griet sees him walking wih van Ruijven (she is avoiding vR and had been sent out by MT on errands). Thanks for the link Bethan!

(Tress) Ohhh...you're so close! Practically breathing the same air as ODB! Somehow I think Tineke is going to be booking passage to Contern very soon. Let the lobbying begin!!!!! It must be very agreeable to her to be settled within so easy a distance from Contern. What is 140 miles of good road? I call it a very easy distance.

Thank you Bethan, (Tineke)I highly doubt I'd be able to get in though;) You don't know that, but think of what Karen said... (Karen)Colin does have to be staying somewhere nearby. Correct Camping out enroute from filming site to where he is staying, (you'd need to find out where he's staying)may be a possibility. WOT an adventure.

And alas, as I have no vacation time left this year, the potted plant is all yours Tineke. Just look for opportunities in unexpected places. Who knows just when you think all is lost, an opportunity may come out of the blue. ;-) Kathleen, you're too funny! ;-)

(kathleen) It must be very agreeable to her to be settled within so easy a distance from Contern. What is 140 miles of good road? I call it a very easy distance. ROTF...you are too funny! Tineke, I wish you luck, if you do decide to travel to Contern....

(kathleen) I heard that the chargirl living in the house in Islington was supposed to practice sleeping in a hole in the basement and grinding something in the attic while the occupants were away. Any confirmation? Hey, what ever did happen to that chargirl in Islington? If I remember correctly, desperately trying to remember, she was in a very perilous position last time we heard from her?:-)and a paitient winkie, too.

LOL Kathleen. 140 miles is considered very far in my world;) But if they need any Dutch speaking extras...

You see kathleen wouldn't know about me working at the Firths, which I figured out after I replied to her post. I apologize. I have been very bad about keeping you up to date about what happened that day when I had to hide in the study. OK, I'll spill it. To refresh your memories, I had to choose between a peek at CF in the shower or stealing Binder's screenplay off the nightstand. Every time I look back on that day I want to smack myself silly. How could I have chosen the screenplay? What was wrong with me? I can only plead temporary insanity as visions of CF in another Binder flick made me crazy. OK, so this is what happened. There I was with no where to run, nowhere to hide. But wait, the study! I dashed in there and ducked behind this really nice desk that the computer sits on. While I was down there I noticed I should be a little more diligent with getting the Hoover into those hard to reach nooks and cranies! CF was in the kitchen, remember?, microwaving away. I figured he would go into the dining room to eat or maybe go plop in front of the TV. Oh noooooooooo! No such luck for me. The man comes into the study and sets his food on the desk. Now, here is where my mind wandered. Why? Because of his shoes! The desk is one of those that is open straight through where the feet and legs go, so I could see him on the other side as he stood there. I was looking straight at the ugliest pair of peeee-yooook green clogs that I had ever seen. Of course I wondered if he was getting into character for the Vermeer part by cruising the house in them. Perhaps they had been a gift? Surely ODB did not shell out good money for these? As I was in my clog trance, he walked around the side of the desk. Scared the 'you know what' out of me. I scampered underneath it so I was effectively in the little space for the feet and legs. Well, he made a phone call. He had it on 'the speaker' so I heard everything. It went something like this: CF: Mikey? MB: Colin! CF: Hello. MB: Hey! Riveting dialogue so far, no? CF: I can't seem to find my copy of the screenplay. MB: (Gasps in horror) Do you think someone stole it? I swallowed, wondering if Binder was telepathic, we already know him to be psychopathic, with his aggressive attempt at killing Colin's career with 'L'. CF: Who would steal it? I raised my hand. MB: Hey buddy, no problem. I've got literally hundreds of copies of it. I'll get one over to---- At this point the connection dropped. I heard Colin say "Mikey, Mikey" then "Crikey, crikey!" I should tell you that as I sat there, crouched under CF's desk listening to what was being said, I just couldn't take it. I saw the phone jack and I pulled it out of the plug, disconnecting the line. Sensibly, I plugged it it straight back in. CF redialled. CF: Mikey? MB: Colin! CF: Hello. MB: Hey! Here we go again! CF: Send me another copy and then I'll--- A well-meaning elf was playing with the line again. After he was disconnected for a second time, CF used some very naughty language. But, ladies, even his rather explict comment about just what he was going to do with the telephone sounded sooooooo smooth and mellow with his hunky, deep, resonate, echoy voice. Anyway, that was enough for him. After a pause I heard him talking to Mikey again, this time he used is mobile phone and it was a one-sided conversation for me. I had lost the battle though. That much was clear. Colin confirmed that he would look for a DHL of the screenplay the next day. But not the war. You see, I worked the next day and would be the one at the house to accept the delivery when it arrived. I already had plans forming..... To be continued.....Next installment will see the right/left debate plunged into even further chaos as I reveal what I saw when he sat down.... After all this I hope I'm in the right topic......

Lisa the Desk Elf. Has an interesting ring to it ;-) I was looking straight at the ugliest pair of peeee-yooook green clogs that I had ever seen. Perhaps they had been a gift? Surely ODB did not shell out good money for these? LOL! Boy do you have a strong constitution. Not only dealing with the stress of almost getting caught, but having to look at those shoes,*right in front of your face*, too. Gawd! ;-) I can only plead temporary insanity as visions of CF in another Binder flick made me crazy. Binder .....we already know him to be psychopathic, with his aggressive attempt at killing Colin's career with 'L'. If at first you don't succeed... Next installment will see the right/left debate plunged into even further chaos as I reveal what I saw when he sat down.... Now *that* is the chapter I'm waiting for ;-)

I had to choose between a peek at CF in the shower or stealing Binder's screenplay off the nightstand. Every time I look back on that day I want to smack myself silly. How could I have chosen the screenplay? What was wrong with me? You fought the good fight, but it was all for naught! I'd have taken the shower! .Next installment will see the right/left debate plunged into even further chaos as I reveal what I saw when he sat down.... After all this I hope I'm in the right topic...... I don't know. It's sounding a little like 166 to me. ;-)

(Lisa) MB: Hey buddy, no problem. I've got literally hundreds of copies of it. I'll get one over to---- Because no one else wants them!!! (Lisa) Next installment will see the right/left debate plunged into even further chaos as I reveal what I saw when he sat down.... After all this I hope I'm in the right topic...... (KathyF) I don't know. It's sounding a little like 166 to me. ;-) LOL.....This smacks of googie talk....I agree with Kathy! You're borderline 166 now! Thank you Lisa! v. v. funny!! BTW, I like green clogs!! I'm a lover of most ugly shoes (according to the DH). ;-)

(Tress) You're borderline 166 now! I think we went past the borderline a few posts ago gone and are firmly into 166 talk. We'd better move this over there before we are given a Topic Ticket and have to make an appearance in Topic Court to deal with it. (invisible winkie inserted - isn't it a creative one?) Now, on to something else that I think does belong on this topic. I was one of many who missed the ET on VH1 broadcast last weekend (the one that included an abridged version of the WAGW theatrical trailer). I was just about certain it would be a new program this weekend, but just on the miniscule chance that it was a repeat, I taped it this afternoon. If you're an eternal optimist like me and were thinking of doing the same, don't bother. It was indeed a new episode.

Thanks for the very interesting info Bethan and Karen.

Thanks everyone for the links, info and pics. LOL Evelyn, blagging your way so famously into a CF premiere, can kinda fuzz up those figures:-))Hope EOR premieres when it's warmer:-) Mari, love that you confess to adoring those interview re-runs. Better than a crappy saunter along the embankment;-)), anyday! with you all the way on that one.

(Tineke) I found Contern on my map, it's about 140 miles from where I live. I highly doubt I'd be able to get in though;) , Remember our motto:"Make it happen";-) And recall Susan who drove her van in the dead of night to Rhode Island not knowing where she was going to see MLSF screening and give us a report! (Poor Tineke...In Sept we sent her to the FF in Holland to see Possession.)

(Karen) But from the book, that would be mainly Griet's scenes. Right? Vermeer is never outside as I recall. (Tress) Just a couple times that I can think of... One more, sort of... when V. first enlists Griet to help him... I pulled the front door shut and stepped into the street...I looked up. He had opened a window and poked his head out.

Okay, Who has been writing to David Poland: Finally, this from & THE COCONUT: �Few comments on the new Bond. I'm fascinated at how so many loyal fans view the films so differently, what they look for in them. There's the troop who enjoyed the detached overkill of "Tomorrow Never Dies" and now "Die Another Day," rather than what I consider more intimate storytelling in "The World Is Not Enough" and the Dalton duo (though "intimate" in a Bond film is certainly a new definition of the word, perhaps "finesse" is a better word). Anyway, viewing the film tonight, I couldn't get over the massive CGI overkill, the same easy way out which I think marred last summer's Star Wars entry. What I'd like to know is why some are calling this the best in decades? The performances are OK (the old Korean general was the only surprise) but nothing resonates and all the clever moments are confined to the first half. After that it's all pretty much numbing stuff... soulless sound and fury. Entertainment by way of distraction. I still think TWINE is the underrated gem in Brosnan's bunch (Am I actually agreeing with Roger Ebert!?!). Not so much shit blowing up for the sake of shit blowing up, where Robert Carlyle and Sophie Marceau gave us a pair steeped in pain and anger... evil characters who didn't really like what they became. And is it me or did "Die" play more like a far out sci-fi film than anything remotely applicable to our world? the tornado lasers? virtual reality training? DNA body reconstruction? invisible fucking cars!?! One of them would have been fine but there's only so much disbelief a person can take -- yes, even from 007! (Like "Moonraker," this is a Bond film that owes more to George Lucas than Ian Fleming.) Still it's a James Bond year, and this has never been a bad thing. Here's hoping someone will wise up and hire Colin Firth for the next four.... rent "Valmont" and tell me I'm wrong.� E ME: Colin Firth? Didn�t he just play Dean Martin in a TV movie? Oh, it wasJeremy Northam? Doesn�t Colin Firth play Jeremy Northam? http://www.thehotbutton.com/today/hot.button/index.html

Thanks Sue and David Poland Bond has always been my fantasy roll for him. 18 career years. 18 *fing* years waiting to see him in a roll like this. He would exude sex. Perfect personification. So handsome, so intelligent, so classy, oooooooo so sexy, so Bond. Obviously just finished watching FP again. But alas only in my dreams.

(Pam)But alas only in my dreams. Saw Pierce Brosnan last night on BRAVO "Inside the Actor's Studio. He dodged the question as to who would succeed him as Bond . He's signed on for a 5th film. Says he's got a young family now, school fees,mortgage... Hey, that guy's gonna keep doing Bond in a walker.

FanPam: Bond has always been my fantasy roll for him I must confess, that I would love to se him as James Bond. If not for any other reason - then just because that is one movie, that is certain to be shown in the cinemas in my part of the world. Too old? No, not at all - he is just getting better and better.

Annette: I am closing your italics tag on this topic. Thanks, Sue, for the item, but on this issue of CF David Poland and I part company and I'd like to tell that yutz to give it a rest. ;-) [Of course, it seems like we share an admiration for the Dalton duo.]

Well I had a two-fer with Colin yesterday.....yeah I know, in my dreams (well had it there as well, but that's a different story ;-))........ Managed to see the WAGW trailer twice in two different theaters on two different floors, one immediately following the other before my movie, but while trying to make sure in between I got a seat in my theater. Made myself dizzy with all the running back and forth. And now I must say, that I have changed my tune as far as how good (or not so) that he may have looked. I must have been even more tired that I realized the first time I saw it. Because yesterday he was *really* AFG! Only in one quick shot did he looke remotely tired around the eyes. And what really struck me was how great his skin looked in the part where he's talking to some Board of Director-like people saying she's seems mature, etc, and with each successive cutback to him the picture zooms in a bit closer. His skin looked almost flawless! So young. I kept wondering what he uses (yet another party icebreaker question - must start a list to bring as a cheat sheet). Though I just read Joan Collins, I think, says the key to looking young as you get older is lots of sex....hmmmmm. And that booty shake, Man-O-Man! Guess I had a better look this time. Too cute. Wonder what music they'll use for that scene. And that smile at the end was cute, though I don't remember that in there the first time I saw the trailer. I had just seen The Hours beforehand, which is not a light movie, and it was late, so I'll chalk it up to that.

(Dorine) Because yesterday he was *really* AFG! Only in one quick shot did he looke remotely tired around the eyes. And what really struck me was how great his skin looked in the part where he's talking to some Board of Director-like people saying she's seems mature, etc, and with each successive cutback to him the picture zooms in a bit closer. His skin looked almost flawless! So young. I had a multiple-trailer experience today, and I was sitting in the theater thinking exactly the same thing as the camera zoomed in closer and closer.

(Karen) Are you referring to Robair's note at the AB site? In any event, should the trailer hit the net, that news should be posted at 165. Since I posted in the incorrect topic, I moved my answer over here. Sorry! :-) Saw a blurb saying WAGW trailer "Coming Soon" at the bottom of the page on comingsoon.net. I guess that could mean tomorrow or two months from now.

The Quicktime trailer will eventually hit the apple.com trailer site as well.

Has anyone seen both the full theater trailer and the one they've shown on TV? If so, what are the differences? Is it mainly extensions of scenes or are there more scenes?

For all you ladies Downunder, who always say you never get anything good CF-related, well hie thee to a newsstand for Now Weekly. More pics from the park. Colin and Luca are adorable.

How can you not adore a man so completely and madly in love with his little baby? BTW, he's just as sweet and loving with his pets too! The Firth man is just one of the really good guys out there in this world. A talented professional who balances his life with love for wife and family and the world he lives in by trying to make it a fairer, better place. You people have chosen a fine person to admire. Smart bunch! :) Happy Holidays to you all. I'll be back shortly with some good news to share. Hugz L

(Mari)Has anyone seen both the full theater trailer and the one they've shown on TV? If so, what are the differences? Is it mainly extensions of scenes or are there more scenes? I have-multiple times on both. The trailers are basically the same, but the VH-1 trailer has several scenes missing from the full-theater one. What's missing; the AFG smile at the end (very last shot in theater one when AB is saying please not the BeeGees.(the VH1 takes it to just that point then cuts it out. The white tie shot of CF CF looking though the photo album CF dialogue to KP when they are on the phone Another shot of CF in a plaid sort of tie (Dorine)and that smile at the end was cute, though I don't remember that in there the first time I saw the trailer Where have you been? I told you.:-)

(HolaLola) How can you not adore a man so completely and madly in love with his little baby? BTW, he's just as sweet and loving with his pets too! The Firth man is just one of the really good guys out there in this world. A talented professional who balances his life with love for wife and family and the world he lives in by trying to make it a fairer, better place. You people have chosen a fine person to admire. Smart bunch! :) HolaLola, You have touched on so many reason so many of us are here, admiring him. They just don't make 'em like that (Get busy cloners!) very often, The AFG part is a bonus! BTW, what kind of pets does ODB have?

(Karen)For all you ladies Downunder, who always say you never get anything good CF-related, well hie thee to a newsstand for Now Weekly. More pics from the park. Colin and Luca are adorable. Karen, are those pics from Now, different than the others? Is this an issue we can get here? Later issue than the Nov.6th one?

This is a completely different magazine (although it could be the same publisher, hence similarity of title) and from the same photographer, but all different shots. Good question about the pets. I don't think we've ever heard reference to them before. (better not be cats) Thanks Hola for stopping by. Could the news be an imminent press release for TEOR saying that all the principals have signed on? ;-)

Thanks Hola for stopping by. Could the news be an imminent press release for TEOR saying that all the principals have signed on? ;-) I was wondering the same thing, C'mon Hola, I can't wait for news like this Yes, I want to know about the pets, too. Oh, I want to know.

(Karen) Good question about the pets. I don't think we've ever heard reference to them before. Saw a picture of ODB a while back in what looked to be someone's backyard (possibly his?) with a couple of dogs....he was kneeling down and petting them (I just assumed they were his puppies).

You're correct, Tress, that pic was in People magazine a few years back. Taken in Italy, so not sure if they're his or the in-laws'. Could the news be an imminent press release for TEOR saying that all the principals have signed on? ;-) Could be, but I'll sit here and hope it's a new project, a drama, with a respected director and A-list co-star. C'mon, Lola, see what you can do for me.;-)

Here ya go, from Meluchie's site:

That's Flick & Flock. But they stay in Italy. I'm wondering about his pets too. Lola, what pets does Colin have in London? Probably a cat. Do tell. We await your very good news. Hopefully an R-rated film. But I would also love a TEOR confirmation. I bet he will be doubling his salary this time. I would like to know what he gets for TEOR.

Oh you lucky, lucky girls to have seen the trailer so many times. Of course he's AFG. Was there ever any question of that? Hardly too old to be Bond. PB is 49 and going strong.

Looked at those playground pics. Going to go and call my Mom now and tell her I am a very bad girl for objectifying CF. Conscience crisis. Any similar reactions?

Thanks for the picture Mari! That was the one I saw....cute little beasties (and lucky to have ODB rubbing their bellies). Moon, are their names really Flick and Flock?? That's too funny! Like in the Andersen story? Very excited to hear Lola's news!!! Will try to wait patiently. ;-)

(Tress) are their names really Flick and Flock?? Yes, their names were in the article.

the VH-1 trailer has several scenes missing from the full-theater one. Thanks, Linda, sounds like there's quite a bit more on the full trailer. I hope it's online soon, and then we can set Rika to work.;-) Yum-skidoo piccy from the People spread with the doggies:

(Hola Lola) How can you not adore a man so completely and madly in love with his little baby? It is very captivating to see him with Luca. Thanks for the teaser, Hola! I do so love to be teased....not! ;-) (Karen) Good question about the pets. I don't think we've ever heard reference to them before. (better not be cats) Ahem!....and what pray tell is the problem with cats (My Gomez would like to know as he looks at my computer.) ;-) If they had a dog, you'd think they would've taken him to the park. Didn't see evidence of that in the pics. (Mari) I'll sit here and hope it's a new project, a drama, with a respected director and A-list co-star. (Moon) Hopefully an R-rated film Hope does spring eternal.....I still have a candle left. (Kathleen) Looked at those playground pics. I am a very bad girl for objectifying CF. Conscience crisis. Any similar reactions? Conscience? What's that? No, not in the least ;-)

Mari, I was actually concentrating on work and then I made the mistake of checking Drool, saw your post, and now I can't think (about work, at least)! Murph, the coffee pic is great and the photos with Luca are adorable. Thanks!

Luca's definitely a chip off Colin's block with that hair and smile. The captions are kinda cute too. Bet those pics will be showing up in a few other Firth sites photo albums in a jiffy. ;-) Thanks Murph.

(Karen) Good question about the pets. I don't think we've ever heard reference to them before. (better not be cats) (Dorine)Ahem!....and what pray tell is the problem with cats I have to ask as Dorine - my best company watching CF movies is my big red cat. He's got the softest fur, and I don't think, I have to tell anyone that running your fingers through, pretending to be FOC "doing" ODB's neck, can work wonders. BTW, should this be postet on 166????? I too find the pictures adorable (oh - to be that dog!)

First, as soon as I finish typing this I'll bee bop down to the news agent and check out finding the magazine. My guess is that it's New Weekly (NW) if it's an Aussie magazine. I've never heard of Now Weekly...... Hey, loved the dog pics. I never saw the People Mag spread. Of course I knew the man would be marvelous with animals: kind; caring; gentle; playful; fun-loving; imaginative...Sorry, got carried away there. :) Rika, Loved the two welcome pictures. Gosh, 'The Dimples' Lousia. I'm ready to dive in. If I never make it back with the magazine you know where to find me. Hola Lola.....what a tease you are! All of the aboved mentioned scenarios are real possibilities, and while I vote with Moon about an announcement of an R-rated film being the top on my list, in fact I'd bethca anything it it as Karen said. The securing of the principles in TEoR. Hey, that's a very close second to the R-rated flick. Kathleen, I felt the way you did with the first set of pics that came out in the UK mag. Did anyone notice in the first pic that there are wisps of blonde hair on the right edge of the pic? More than one child enjoying the park. I wonder what that child's mum or nanny thought of the group they were sharing the equipment with? Ducking out now.......be back or join the fun in the dimples......

(Mari) Thanks, Linda, sounds like there's quite a bit more on the full trailer. Mari, I agree with Linda - lots of CF stuff was omitted from the 'ET on VH1'coverage of the trailer. ET focused mostly on AB, while the theatrical trailer emphasizes the father-daughter relationship to a much greater degree. That's what made me feel cautiously optimistic about the movie. I hope it's online soon, and then we can set Rika to work.;-) I am limbering up my mouse-clicking finger so I'll be ready as soon as the opportunity presents itself!

Thanks, Mari and Murph for the pictures What a droolable day. And even possible news about TEoR. *looking for that last bit of candle*

I haven't had much time to keep up with all the messages lately. What does AFG stand for? I'm a little confused with the status of TEOR. Is it still unconfirmed if it will be made or are we just waiting to see when it's going to happen. Great pics of Colin.

The WAGW trailer is up! It's the full theatrical trailer. Here's at least one URL where it can be found (QuickTime format): http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/w/whatagirlwants.php Going to check more sites and will report what I find.

Just a quick follow-up - it's not listed on the QuickTime Movie Trailer page yet, nor is it reachable (so far) from the WAGW page or the WB Movies page.

(Rika) The WAGW trailer is up! Ooooh!!! I just watched it three times, and it actually looks cute (now I'm dodging the chairs being thrown by the gimme-an-R-rated group). Definitely googie material there. Was that "There She Goes" or just something that sounds rather like it?

Rika!! You're the woman! That was the site I saw yesterday, and I never thought to go back so quickly to see if it actually 'arrived'! Thank you! I just watched it 3 times as well...Gawd! Is he just AFG (dalec, it means absolutely f**king gorgeous) or what!!?! I am addicted to this trailer....going back to watch it again! ;-) KathyF, it does sound like "There She Goes!"

(KathyF,) it does sound like "There She Goes!" I noticed it right away. I think it is

(Rika) That was the site I saw yesterday, and I never thought to go back so quickly to see if it actually 'arrived'! Thank my intuition, which is sometimes freakishly intuitive. I was online, and all of a sudden a voice in my head said, "Go see if the trailer is up." Bizarre. Bad news, though - am having technical difficulties with captures so far. They worked fine when I tested with RealPlayer video, so this may be a QuickTime issue. I'm working on it but I don't know if I'll be able to do anything about it.

OK, right now, in my hot little hand, I am holding a magazine that has a full two page spread of an AFG man with his family on an outing to the park. In NW (which I cannot find what it stands for), on page 42 and 43 of a section called In The Frame, (just after a two page spread of SB and HG filming in Manhattan), are *all* the pics that we have seen from the UK as well as the three new ones. A little inserted box on the page reads: Colin Plays Up Bridget Jones's Diary star Colin Firth puts his busy schedule on hold to spend some quality time goofing around with his one-year-old son, Luca, and wife, Livia, in a park near their West Lindon home. Colin's currently working on the film Love Actually, a romantic comedy starring Hugh Grant, Liam Neeson and Emma Thompson. The little boy is very very cute. Looks even better holding the pictures up real close! (Not to get off topic, but there's also a lovely shot of PB and his wife at a Bond premiere.)

Rika, a little help on the captures. I can't leave them up for long, so enjoy! http://maryhahn.org

Oh Thanks very much Mary, I just had a look, one of them is very Mark Darcy-ish. And as I thought when I saw it before, his stance in the one dancing shot is almost exactly like a Mick Jagger caricature that Karen posts sometimes.

I haven't been able to either, and I've done QT before with TIOBE's trailer. :-( I think the "surestream" might be the problem.

Karen, check your email

Mary, thank you so much! You got one of him in white tie, which just melted me when I saw it in the theater. By the way, wanted to make sure everybody knew that the left/right arrow buttons on the QT control panel will go through slowly. It's worth checking out the "shake-your-booty" sequence in slo-mo.

(Rika) By the way, wanted to make sure everybody knew that the left/right arrow buttons on the QT control panel will go through slowly. It's worth checking out the "shake-your-booty" sequence in slo-mo. Yes, and isn't that a wondrous feature?! I have now gone back and played it, well I've lost track of the number of times. IMO going backwards is even more fun than going forwards, for some reason I have yet to figure out. I think I'm becoming seriously addicted. Thank you so much, Rika. You've made my evening!

(Rika) By the way, wanted to make sure everybody knew that the left/right arrow buttons on the QT control panel will go through slowly. It's worth checking out the "shake-your-booty" sequence in slo-mo. Thanks Rika. I just wish the mouse came with a mute button...Now in addition to wanting to know why I am always giggling/gasping/drooling over my computer, they are going to want to know what all the mysterious multiple mouse clicks are for! He is beyond adorable, beyond AFG, (uh oh, my hyperbole is showing..)I have never been so "moved" by a man as this!

Okay, back after my conscience crisis. Thanks for the support Dorine and Lisa. And into the mix of my dilemma comes - the WAGW trailer. Thanks, Rika. Was hard-pressed to find a film at a multiplex that I wanted to see just to RIKA the Harry Potter trailer. Trailer looks like a winner. Much appeal for kids and parents. The shake, shake, shake totally over the top. We're talking HAM, such MUGGING - but a lovely mug.

The trailer is fabulous. Loved it. But is it just me or did anyone else experience a little voice in your head saying "He's with Ms. Bingley! He's with Ms. Bingley!!!"

(Yura) But is it just me or did anyone else experience a little voice in your head saying "He's with Ms. Bingley! He's with Ms. Bingley!!!" I know I did! However, I told myself that in all probability, he won't end up with her. ;-) I also wondered if that bit of casting was on purpose.

Ohoooooooo you girls are so lucky. For some reason I can't get into trailer. All I get is a blank white page. Soooooooo disappointed. HAVE A VERY HAPPY AND SAFE THANKSGIVING EVERYONE Thanks Rika and Mary for the link and beautiful pictures.

The white balloons and the dance floor - could this be a wedding scene where Kelly Preston's character weds the man who was the "love of her life" and Miss Bingley loses out once again? Wouldn't they have to develop this part of the story with at least a few visuals?

From the Cambridge Newspapers: Sale raises charity stakes lots and lots A SHEET of paper signed by the four members of The Who is expected to raise hundreds of pounds for a Cambridgeshire children's hospice. The exclusive item is one of the main lots to go under the hammer at an auction for East Anglia's Children's Hospices (EACH), which runs the hospice in Milton. [...] Mr Sharp said: "We have an incredible wide range of items from the worlds of sport, literature, politics, showbusiness, the arts and notoriety. They would make the ideal Christmas present with a difference. "I mean, who could not resist a signed John Prescott in their stocking?" [Ed note: What an idiot.] The auction will take place on Saturday at the Old School, Long Melford, near Sudbury, Suffolk. Items go under the hammer at 1pm but doors open at 10am for viewing. The lots include a book illustrated and signed by the Winnie the Pooh illustrator, Ernest H Shepherd; items signed by England 1966 World Cup winning heroes Sir Geoff Hurst and Sir Bobby Charlton; and a T-shirt for the current Rolling Stones tour signed by Sir Mick Jagger. A book written and signed by the notorious gangster Reggie Kray will also go under the hammer along with a signed poem by Seamus Heaney and a copy of Bridget Jones' Diary signed by Colin Firth, with a tie worn by him in the film. Mr Sharp said: "We had a charity auction two years ago and raised �1,600 that day. "This time round we have got more lots, more interesting lots and we are hoping to double that at least. [...] http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/news.asp?sec=1&id=352962

(Pam) For some reason I can't get into trailer. All I get is a blank white page. Soooooooo disappointed. Try again. It wasn't working when I first tried it earlier this morning. It seems to be back now.

I did a couple of not very good screen captures from the Quick Time Trailer. It does look like a sweet film - Very old fashioned, though. I wonder if today's teens will be an audience for this - or is it the older crowd that will go see it? Like me??

Thanks, Murph! I wish I could figure out why I can't do captures. I mean, I get a capture, but it cuts off the trailer image in really strange ways. I'm glad you and MaryH have been able to do it. (Pam) For some reason I can't get into trailer. All I get is a blank white page. Soooooooo disappointed. (Kathy)Try again. It wasn't working when I first tried it earlier this morning. It seems to be back now. Also, depending on your Internet connection speed, the trailer can take a while to download, and while it's downloading all you'll see is the white screen. Finally, you've got to have the QuickTime plug-in installed. (Karen, quoting Cambridge newspaper) and a copy of Bridget Jones' Diary signed by Colin Firth, with a tie worn by him in the film. The snowman tie, I presume. If this auction were online, I'd bid a quid or two (or several) for that! (Kathleen) The white balloons and the dance floor - could this be a wedding scene where Kelly Preston's character weds the man who was the "love of her life" and Miss Bingley loses out once again? From seeing the trailer a few times in theaters, I became convinced that one of the two couples on the dance floor is Daphne and her dad - so she's getting that father/daughter dance she wanted. I wasn't able to identify the other couple. Second, if you go through the still photos on the WAGW web site, there's a group wedding photo with Anna Chancellor as the bride, and the groom is not ODB. But maybe the father/daughter dance somehow takes place at that wedding. Are we starting to need a spoilers topic for this film? I guess not - this is still just speculation based on little shreds of evidence.

Maybe Anna Chancellor plays his sister. I can't believe we don't know anything else about this story. Kareen, is there a script to be had?

Maybe Anna Chancellor plays his sister. I can't believe we don't know anything else about this story. Karen, is there a script to be had?

Moon...I *think* the official site for WAGW says that she is his fiance and that she's got a daughter the same age as his....clash attack!

(Rika)From seeing the trailer a few times in theaters, I became convinced that one of the two couples on the dance floor is Daphne and her dad - so she's getting that father/daughter dance she wanted. Oh do you really think so???!! I hope so. My friends and I were talking about his dancing just yesterday. I don't know of a scene where he really *grabs hold* of a woman (you know, hands on waist, not like the dance seen in P&P). Even if the dance is with his own daughter, I'd still love to see that on screen :) (Lisa)I *think* the official site for WAGW says that she is his fiance and that she's got a daughter the same age as his....clash attack! I think that's what I read also. Also that she is some kind of a social climber....Every time I watch the trailer, I have this urge to slap her daughter(the blond one) around a little bit... Is that evil?

oh, no offence to the girl who plays the role. I mean the character of course.

Happy Thanksgiving to USA fans! A bookmark for everyone. Right click to save. Print out on card stock or other nice paper.

(Yura) I have this urge to slap her daughter(the blond one) around a little bit... Is that evil? No, not at all. I feel the same way. (Rika)The snowman tie, I presume. If this auction were online, I'd bid a quid or two (or several) for that! I'd pay extra! Oh Rika, I want to thank the little voice in your head for telling you to check out the trailer. Between the theater adventures, and now on line, I've lost count. I wonder if there is a trailer rehab out there somewhere. I'm gonna need it before March. My favorite scenes: When he hugs AB, and on the phone with KP when she says something about it doesn't take much to start worrying. Love the look on CF's face when she says that. Of course the smile at the end of the trailer is my favorite "look" Actually the whole trailer is my favoite.

The trailer can take a while to download, and while it's downloading all you'll see is the white screen. Finally, you've got to have the QuickTime plug-in installed.. Worth the wait...about 20 minutes for me.(My screen was green)Had to upgrade Quicktime. But was able to save it. Cute pic of AB saying ever since she was a little girl she dreamed of meeting her dad. Teary:-((

(Rika)From seeing the trailer a few times in theaters, I became convinced that one of the two couples on the dance floor is Daphne and her dad - so she's getting that father/daughter dance she wanted. (Yura) Oh do you really think so???!! Has to be, flat out has to be. Short of dancing at her own wedding, it will be the only way to end the thing given the opening we've seen. The only question is the *event* ... I know what I hope. (Insert smarmy hopeless romantic winkie!) And Rika, regarding your premonition to check the site, I'm gonna email you some lottery numbers...just close your eyes and click and send me the results. Favorite line...ok, not quite favorite line, but now I know what I will say if I ever bump into him -- "Oh, it's you."

(Rika) The snowman tie, I presume. If this auction were online, I'd bid a quid or two (or several) for that! (lindak) I'd pay extra! I read (or maybe heard on the director's commentary for BJD) that it was a musical tie! It played a tune...would definitely pay extra for jingle bells!! (lindak) I wonder if there is a trailer rehab out there somewhere. I'm gonna need it before March. LOL...I'll be joining you at the group sessions.... ;-) Thanks Murph for the bookmark!!

a charity auction.....a copy of Bridget Jones' Diary signed by Colin Firth Bugger! I knew I should've pulled my copy of BJD out of my purse when I had the chance. Didn't want to raise red flags at that point...or any point, really. ;-)

It took awhile, but hopefully it will be worth it. I have over 50 screen caps of that trailer, but must crop, clean and adjust, then put up on the Gallery page. I probably have every frame Colin is in. ;-) Will put up later.

While I am familiar with the concept of when studios release certain movies, I read this little bit on the Ain't It Cool News website and thought that even though Colin's new movies have been pushed back several times, we should be happier to where they moved them. Yes, we have to wait a bit longer, but at least they're not being dumped on the trash heap, so to speak. :-)

This movie is being dumped in late January, which is fine, because that is the landfill where studios toss their trash. At most costs, avoid the late January-early March season, because it is filled with movies such as this. Duh! *slapping self upside head for forgetting quote*

(Linda) Of course the smile at the end of the trailer is my favorite "look" You mean after the BeeGees line? If so, I have every twitch. ;-)

Thank you for the lovely bookmark, Murph, but that picture always made me a little uneasy. I think it was a reverse image. So I fiddled around a bit for a comparison... What do you think? [Gee, I hope this works... ;-)]

Here is a translation from a norwegian magazine (perhaps not perfectly translatet, but I think mo-re understandable than the original). It had 2 pictures attached at this url: http://hem.passagen.se/lmw go to articles, no. 1(2002) Colin Firth: English chocolat by Tor Milde, Det Nye (Norway) November 2002 He comes from a nice furnished home, and his upbringing is victorian to the fingertips. His parents votet for Margaret Thatcher, og he supports the snobby team Arsenal. But we have found one fault: The arch-english charmer Colin Firth (42) should have been Hugh Grant. Now you can see Colin in The Importance Of Being Earnest. Colin Firth does not like to be remindet, that he is english, even though he is one of the most arch-english actors, you can imagine. Not only is he at times intolerantly english i Bridget Jones�s Diary, he is irresistibly english i Jane Austens Pride and Prejudice, he was football-english in Fever Pitch and he is snobby english in his new movie, The Importance Of Being Earnest. And if we add that two of his most succesful films are The English Patient and Shakespeare In Love, he should be well placed. 42 years old and comparatively new father he is also, and he is quick to say, that it hardly can be called particularly �english�. - My wife is Italian, he tries. - And our son is named Luca. It�s true! It�s a real Italian name. With a c! But the tweedjacket and a designer-sixence on top of it all, gives us all the excuses we really don�t need. Colin Firth is a man, who turns the ladys heads. We have seen it ourselves. They loose coffee-cups og walk into lampposts, when Colin walks round Manhattan, 183 centimeters tall and slen-der body. - I have put on weight, he tries again. Colin Firth is defensive, and he does not like it. He quickly corrects me, when I suggest, that The Importance Of Being Earnest is one of Oscar Wildes best plays�. - It�s the best, he says without hesitasion. The story is as banal as it is elegantly funny: Two men live a double life to please each their own girl, and they have one double life in common � as the fictitious Earnest. The complications and misunderstandings follow, but it all ends realiably and in perfect order. Colin Firth is fabulous as the awkward snob Jack, but gladly admits, that his personal taste in film have no tendency at costumedramas and english, elegant landscapes. He is more fond of a good comedy with a slightly tuffer dialog than old Oscar brought along a hundred years ago. - But this particular film, I would see, he quickly adds. - This is British traditional play, and we have not modernised the dialog or the setting. Bridgets droolyobject (translation a bit insecure) Colin Firth is not Englands greatest male actor, and he is happy that way. He claims, that it is easier to choose parts that way, because the drop is lower. Had he been number one���. - As the writer J.B. Priestley once said: I�ve never been out of fashion, since I never were fashion. That is me. Well, well Colin � its time to shake off your modesty, once and for all. We mention Bridget Jones to him, and watch what happens. Yes, he smiles. And a lady looses her coffeecup once again. - All right, I probobly got a little more well-known after that film, and also went up a few pay grades. - Are you to be in the sequel? - Well, perhaps as myself? Colin Firth, the actor and charmer, gets interviewed by a drooly Bridget Jones in the sequel book from Helen Fielding. When he is not shooting movies, he spends his time with his family, which includes the 18 months old son Luca, wife Livia and an older son, 12 years old Will. Wills mother is the ameri-can actress Meg Tilly. Colin is happy, that he has been lucky, as he calls it, and has not had to worry, if he would make an income. - I have actually not had a single period after dramaschool, where I have not had some joboffer. So I have had good fortune. Colin knocks on the table. - But you should have actet Will in About a Boy. It is as written for you. - Yes, isn�t it? I would have done anything to get that part, who wouldn�t? But they needed a bigger star than me, and Hugh Grant is fantastic in that movie. Colin Firth is arch-english. And much too polite. End of article. If the web-reference doesn�t work, I have asked Karen to back me up.

About the article, I was in a hurry, and have allready found one mistake. To clear up:the word og means and. Sorry!

Hi all. This is the second time that I will have made the following request and so far have not received one reply. BOO HOO !! Am hoping that someone out there knows if and when TIOBE will be released in DVD down under. My wonderful DH enquired at two video stores - one said Feb 2003 and the other one didn't know anything about it. BUT...recently saw an entertainment guide listing all of the DVDs to be released up to next March or April and TIOBE was not on it. Your help would be appreciated - was hoping to get it for christmas, but will just have to settle for PJs.

(annea)Am hoping that someone out there knows if and when TIOBE will be released in DVD down under. My wonderful DH enquired at two video stores - one said Feb 2003 and the other one didn't know anything about it. If you use region 2, as we do in Europe, I have seen it to be released september 2003. (It has yet to premiere in a lot of European contries).

Re TIOBE Play.com will supply a Region 1 DVD to anywhere in Europe, Post Free, for �15.99, with immediate delivery. All you need is a Multi-region player!! Don't seem to deliver to Australia, but it may be worth searching some of the Hong Kong sites.

Thank you, Annette, for the translation. And there was no need to correct "og." I was actually quite proud of myself for having picked up a bit of Danish. ;-) Bridgets droolyobject (translation a bit insecure) I think that's a mighty fine translation. Droolyobject works for me. ;-) The article has the sounds of many others we've read. Nice to know that Colin admits to being able to command more money now. Thank goodness. Now, if he would only stop shopping at Oxfam. ;-)

Thanks, Annette. - As the writer J.B. Priestley once said: I�ve never been out of fashion, since I never were fashion. That is me. JB Priestley is an actor. Why does Colin keep quoting actors? Didn't he also quote another actor in an interview? How low is that? (Karen), Nice to know that Colin admits to being able to command more money now. True. I would still like to know how much. We know how much HG and RZ got for BJD.

Do you think his parents really voted for Mrs Thatcher? That is the first time we have heard that.

(Moon) JB Priestley is an actor. Why does Colin keep quoting actors? JB Priestly wrote Lost Empires, among other things. Are you confusing him with the one who was on the zipcode show? ;-) (Allison) Do you think his parents really voted for Mrs Thatcher? That is the first time we have heard that. It struck me as odd as well, but thought if this article was made up of bits from others published over the years, maybe I forgot. Glad to know my memory isn't failing. Any other quotaholics remember if he's ever mentioned this before? It does seem unlikely.

Thanks Annette! It takes time to translate, and I appreciate that you did that for us!!! (article) Yes, he smiles. And a lady looses her coffeecup once again. LOL....I would lose more than my coffee cup!!

- As the writer J.B. Priestley once said: I�ve never been out of fashion, since I never were fashion. That is me. (Moon) JB Priestley is an actor. Why does Colin keep quoting actors? Didn't he also quote another actor in an interview? How low is that? Actually, if I found the right person, J.B.(John Boynton) Priestley is a *very* well regarded English writer (plays, novels, essays). I looked him up at Amazon.com. (His name has also been spelled Priestly) Jason Priestley is the "actor".

Annette, thank you so much for the translation! I think "droolyobject" is a useful word for our vocabulary. (Moon) Didn't he also quote another actor in an interview? How low is that? I don't understand why you say that, as long as he's not stealing others' remarks and pretending he thought of them. I must be missing the part that bothers you.

(Rika), I don't understand why you say that, as long as he's not stealing others' remarks and pretending he thought of them. I must be missing the part that bothers you. I think it's stupid to quote other actors. Only great minds are worth quoting, IMO. Some birds learn to fly only when they lose their feathers -- Rumi

Thank you Annette very much for the translation. i enjoyed it, just as it was! I have actually not had a single period after dramaschool, where I have not had some joboffer. So I have had good fortune. Did anyone else pick up this Colin-speak? What about the "wilderness years" when he said he wrote to "everyone" he could to try and get work? And he couldn't even get a job teaching, coaching, directing and local play? Something like that. Yes, isn�t it? I would have done anything to get that part, who wouldn�t? But they needed a bigger star than me, and Hugh Grant is fantastic in that movie. Now I cringe to hear him say that. It may be true, but how hard must it be to be coming off a film with HG and believe that you cannot take up the lead in a part written for you? Actors have fragile egos. Who has been whispering in his ear? :(

I think it's stupid to quote other actors. Only great minds are worth quoting, IMO JBPriestly was definitely a writer. If there is an actor of the same name I have never heard of him (not that that means much;-)) His might not have been a great mind but it was certainly very good.

(Lisa) Did anyone else pick up this Colin-speak? What about the "wilderness years" when he said he wrote to "everyone" he could to try and get work? Colin's been saying this for years, how he's never been out of work. It's all how you define out of work. He only works maybe five months a year on films and such. Maybe our Islington maid would care to relate the "other" work he does at home, e.g., the furniture he restores, the wallpaper he puts up, the lightbulbs and nappies he changes, etc. ;-) You get used to the same lines being resurrected and contradicted within the space of the same article. Part of the fun. It's all a game to him.

Anne, I was out last night, looking in every shop I went by and no TIOBE DVD's or videos were around. I haven't heard a word about the release here but I would think if it was going to be out for Christmas it would be here by now. However, if you want to pick up Spiderman, Scoobee-Do, Legally Blonde or Ice Age you'll have no trouble. :)

For those who haven't been able to get the QuickTime trailer to work, or who just prefer RealPlayer, the trailer is now up on Moviefone. Here's a link to the format selection page: http://www.moviefone.com/showtimes/movie.adp?page=previews&movieid=13736 Enjoy!

Rika, Thank you for coming through with that. The sound was so-so for me but the images were very good. I detected a fast little butt-wiggle in the mirror. I like that there are two stars in the film. AB and CF. It seems clear that it is a father daughter story and he is not in a supporting role merely as a parent. Yahoo, it should be much better viewing than we originally thunk.

The new trailer gallery is up. In the 6th row down, on the left, that pic looks amazingly like the shot from BJD at the launch party, when she first sees him. Maybe he's wearing the same suit and tie. ;-) Enjoy! http://www.firth.com/wagw_gal2.html

(Karen)The new trailer gallery is up. In the 6th row down, on the left, that pic looks amazingly like the shot from BJD at the launch party, when she first sees him. Wauwww - I haven't been able to see the trailer yet, my computer is very old and slow - so Karen, you've made my day by this gallery. I don't only se BJD, I see Matthew (the talking in the phone), a rather serious Peter Ingleton, a lovely Jack. I must say, I don't think I have ever seen anything that resembles "the dancing king". (Remember I'm nordic, Abba is a part of my youth). Keep your fingers crossed; if I'm lucky, I get to see the trailer tomorrow. I don't think, he is wearing the same suit as in BJD. This time there wasn't a HG to steel all of the designer-suits (isn't that, what Sharon Maguire stated in the commentary from the DVD?).

(Karen)You mean after the BeeGees line? If so, I have every twitch. ;-) Yep, that's the one. I think he's chewing when he gives that smile. And I can't wait to hear his answer. Does the smile indicate that he's busted because she's right, or will he say something that will really make her gag? Thank you, Karen. I am truly thankful on this day to be thankful. Will sleep v.peacifully with these pictures in my head. Happy Thanksgiving Everyone. Rika, you've done it again. Locating the trailer on Real Time Thanks Annette for the article (Dorine)and thought that even though Colin's new movies have been pushed back several times, we should be happier to where they moved them. Yes, we have to wait a bit longer, but at least they're not being dumped on the trash heap, so to speak. :-) I hope that quote goes for HS. When are they going to give us a release date for this??

Thank you, Karen! I still can't get the capture process working on my PC, so I'm glad you and MaryH and Murph have provided us all the great pictures!

On Thanksgiving, it seems very appropriate to close out the 2002 Fund Raiser and give one more round of thanks to all those who have so generously given their support to Drool. Here's the latest batch of Drool Darlings: Together, with these fine people listed below, Drool has raised $2,200 this year. With the $880 raised by austen.com's latest fund-raising drive, this should keep Spring in operation all the way through June of next year. Excellent results and very much appreciated. Thank you so much. *smooch*

(sniffing sadly) I contributed, too.. do I get no smootch?

I'm sorry. I can't believe I left off your name, as I was trying to be so careful. OK, the latest Drool Darlings list has been fixed (even above), but I'll repost it here too: (Must have been a little turkeyapnia or similar) ;-)

Forgot to mention, but while I was doing the caps, Shake Your Booty was playing on the radio. I kid you not. It was a sign, a signal, was fated to be, whatever. :)

Ah, everybody get on the floor, let's dance Don't fight the feeling give yourself a chance Shake, shake, shake - shake, shake, shake Shake your booty, shake your booty Oh, shake, shake, shake - shake, shake, shake Shake your booty, shake your booty ---KC & the Sunshine Band How's that for quoting a great mind? ;)

KJ: You are right about the bookmark image. I have the original hard copy - London Times May 6, 2000, and scanned the picture today: I must have reversed for the bookmark.

NEW pic of Colin from the Cartier polo match from Vogue (UK) thanks to Paula: He doesn't look all that pale and gaunt here. In fact, he looks v. healthy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And I've missed another name on the final listing. (time to retire) So I've added the name of Meg to the above. Thank you and I'm sorry.

Did anyone ever check the other UK mags that have society events highlighted, like Tatler Harper & Queens, etc., for coverage of this polo match where you had royals in attendance?

Oh, thank you Karen and Paula for that picture. French cuffs even. I love a man in french cuffs. You are right, Karen, he does look v. healthy, and AFG as well.

Karen, I just checked out the Bucket, and I noticed you have the Forever Ealing documentary listed for 5&8 PM. According to TV Guide, it is listed for showings at 8&11 PM. There is no listing for it at 5PM. A movie begins at 3:30 and lasts though until 6.

Oh, thanks Paula for passing the picture on. And to Karen for posting it. Couldn't have said it better, AFG. Look at the beautiful smile! What's he drinking? Chocolate champagne?

For those who are interested in voting for the Empire Online film awards, here's the link: http://www.empireonline.co.uk/awards/ I think he's drinking coffee in that pic. That would be fair trade coffee, no doubt. ;-) And one last question for Karen - why would it bother you if CF owns cats? I happen to have this theory that men who appreciate cats are the very men who can appreciate a woman with a mind of her own... and I find that men who prefer dogs tend to prefer women who are willing to subjugate their own will/identity to please their man (NOT that women who prefer dogs are all like that, just that men who prefer dogs seem to tend that way). Just mho, of course...

Donovan Quick on UK TV!!! DQ is being shown tonight at 11.00pm GMT on Satellite/Cable channel UK Drama. - I'll do a couple of copies, and send it to the first two to email me. (Remember it will be a Pal copy).

"They loose coffee-cups og walk into lampposts, when Colin walks round Manhattan" LOL! Gawd, I can so see myself doing that. Imagine walking around Manhatten, minding your own business, and...(spotting Colin) "holy cr@p!" BANG! Thanks for the translation, Annette! "Droolyobject" is indeed a good word for our vocabulary here :) Karen & Paula: thanks for the snappie! Looking v. stylish, indeed: AFG City! Probably *iced* coffee in the flute, I would imagine.

(Mary Murphy) KJ: You are right about the bookmark image. I have the original hard copy - London Times May 6, 2000, and scanned the picture today: Oooo. Thanks for the scan!! That is the best color qualitiy I've seen on that pic in some time! And thank you, too, Karen for the lovely Polo pic from UK Vogue. I think his heightened color is due to the very hot day, rather than the beverage this time. ;-)

Love that picture! He's wearing cufflinks and the type of shirt collar I like. Fashion Police stamp of approval! :-)

(Moon Dreams) Love that picture! He's wearing cufflinks and the type of shirt collar I like. Fashion Police stamp of approval! :-) I agree! Although I would vote for the sunglasses from SLOW vs. this style that somehow seems the wrong shape for him....

OK, another name missed. :-( Pretty soon I'm going to have to call Price Waterhouse et al. Have recounted, balanced to number of lines on spreadsheet, footed and cross-footed, and tossed some salt over shoulder. One last time and, sorry, MariaT, for the omission, here are all the Drool Darlings alphabetized!!! And if I've made some mistakes alphabetizing, call Merriam-Webster! I don't want to hear about it. ;-)

Isn't it great that there are so many names that omissions and alphabetizing have become issues! It's a nice problem to have.

Here is some news! Or not! Harry Potter opened here last Thursday and I took my sons with specific instructions about paying attention in the previews. I also quizzed the staff. I caught a large number of them together in one spot. None of them had even heard of WAGW and the trailer is not being shown here in Australia with HP.

(Lisa) Here is some news! Or not! So far, I haven't heard that the WAGW trailer plays with that other movie in any other country, except here. Must have something to do with AB. She'd be more recognizable here and would generate some anticipatory buzz among the "unable to drive" age group. ;-) But with the movie not opening up for several months internationally, they'd wait until about a month before to start publicizing it.

(Karen) Must have something to do with AB. She'd be more recognizable here and would generate some anticipatory buzz among the "unable to drive" age group. ;-) I think she's becoming better known over here now. - My 8 and 11 year old sons love her show currently being shown here in the UK. So I'll have no problem persuading them to go see WAGW with me!

Wow, this group has been busy--trailers, screen captures, new pics and articles, bookmarks. Thanks to all! So . . . who watched Londinium this morning on Cinemax? Fear not if you missed out, it will be shown again later in the month.;-) Dueling Colins this afternoon: Valmont on AMC and Hostages on Cinemax.

(Mari) So . . . who watched Londinium this morning on Cinemax? I planned on running home at lunch to tape the 12:30 show...My DH just called to ask me to meet him for lunch, became audibly upset when I told him I had to get home to make a tape. I somehow talked him into turning it on, but I'm afraid that A) lunch will be no picnic and B) My immediate future may take a turn towards a trip to an asylum...v.v. bad...

(Maria)I'm afraid that A) lunch will be no picnic and B) My immediate future may take a turn towards a trip to an asylum...v.v. bad... Ah, the sacrifices one must make as a Firthette!

(Yura) My friends and I were talking about his dancing just yesterday. I don't know of a scene where he really *grabs hold* of a woman (you know, hands on waist, not like the dance seen in P&P). Even if the dance is with his own daughter, I'd still love to see that on screen :) I believe in SLOW there is a scene where he is dancing with his wife, also Playmaker has a scene as does Dutch Girls, so he does dance. Thank you for the great pics on the Gallery Karen. Wonderful. Also thanks to you and Paula for Cartier pic. AFG. Saw trailer and can't run it enough times. AFG and AMAZING. What I wouldn't give to be hugged by him, even as his daughter. Lucky girl. Have one question the sound is a little off so couldn't understand what he says on phone call with KP. Can someone clear this up for me. Thank you. Didn't Priestly write Lost Empires?

Thank you so much for the translation of the article Annette. It is a very hard thing to do. You did a great job.

(FanPam) Have one question the sound is a little off so couldn't understand what he says on phone call with KP. Can someone clear this up for me. Thank you. LOL...I had the same problem the first 6-7 times I watched the trailer! I think he says "Libby, why didn't you tell me I had fathered a child?" (I am at work and can't get the trailer to play here, but to my recollection that is what he says).

(FanPam)Didn't Priestly write Lost Empires? Yes, he did. A few months back, something made me check the sale of old books at our library, and there he was (yes, ODB)looking at me from the cover of the danish version. Thats just one of many occasions in my day to day life where I've found some "links" to CF. As to the translation, I wish there were more articles to translate, but - alas and alack - there are not. I surf regularly hoping to find some though. (Maria)I'm afraid that A) lunch will be no picnic and B) My immediate future may take a turn towards a trip to an asylum...v.v. bad... Now, that is one of my reasons for keeping my "little" obsession a secret. I do think, that my DH is slightly aware, that something is occupying my mind from time to time - and off course the amount of videos and dvd's piling up in my closet may make someone wonder..... But then again everybody is entitlet to a hobby.

(Pam) Didn't Priestly write Lost Empires? That was answered on #702. Unlike email group correspondence, where people reply willy nilly to questions that may already have been answered, the benefit of this site's setup is that all the messages are here for easy viewing. Please take the time to read all if you are catching up after an absence. One last admin rant: Registration at Spring does NOT necessarily make one a "member" of Drool. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Finally saw the WAGW trailer up on the big screen. Yowza! But no one seems to have commented on the "old" pic of Colin that Amanda looks at in her mother's stuff. A long-haired, '70s-dressed Colin. You can't really see it on the online trailer (or even try to capture it), but that was wild to see. Highly recommended viewing. ;-)

(Karen), But no one seems to have commented on the "old" pic of Colin that Amanda looks at in her mother's stuff. A long-haired, '70s-dressed Colin. Ahem, excuse me, but that was my first comment. I said that it was probably his picture. :-)

Now that I am back in action, I'm looking forward to going to the movies and getting a sneak peek at the WAGW trailer on the big screen. Sounds like it has a lot of positives. If the trailer is so great, perhaps the movie will be great too!

I just checked the website and they now have a link to the trailer, which is now also available in Microsoft Player--the only type that is not blocked by firewall here at work. So, I was able to view it full screen on a very high resolution line and noticed a few things. Moon is correct, the pic is definitely Colin. The background in that shot looks like a bazaar of some sort, women in long garb, mosque-type spires in the distance. I guess it's supposed to be taken from their Morrocco days. Or maybe it's Finsbury.;-) (Anybody watch 24 last night?;-) I don't think it's an actual old pic of CF; I think they wigged him. His vest looks leather and he's carryimg a leather satchel over his right shoulder. Question: why is he dressed for Woodstock, when this pic is supposedly from the mid-80s? Oi. In the shot where Daphne is on the double-decker bus, she has a small American flag pinned to her handbag. I guess she didn't read the State Department warnings about trying to blend in.;-) Also, Colin is not in the group dancing scene, which I think is the deb ball, not a wedding.

OK, have backed up to comment #426 to find it. Sheesh!! I was making a point about more "recent" stuff, but you'll note I did say "no one seems to have commented." ;-) (Moon) There is a close-up of a picture of him with a hippy vest and long hair that migt actually be his own. Naw, the real pics of him from the 70s, with long hair, are of the much younger IRL Colin, with very boyish face. You could tell from the "mature" face that this pic was done for the movie.

(Mari), Question: why is he dressed for Woodstock, when this pic is supposedly from the mid-80s? Oi. LOL! That's why we don't work for film companies, so they can get the details wrong. ;-) Welcome back, Lora!

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(Karen), But no one seems to have commented on the "old" pic of Colin that Amanda looks at in her mother's stuff. A long-haired, '70s-dressed Colin. (Moon)Ahem, excuse me, but that was my first comment. I said that it was probably his picture. :-) LOL. We even discussed it....and not so long ago either;-D Where have you been? I think it's Colin's pic too..../ ...or his double;-) (Lora)Now that I am back in action, ...... 'bout time you came back...we've missed you, Lora. (Lora)If the trailer is so great, perhaps the movie will be great too! On the other hand...maybe the trailer is the best part of the movie;-D

Mari, thanks for posting about the trailer finally being up on the WAGW site. Windows Media Player at a fairly high speed gave me the clearest picture quality I've seen yet for the trailer online. (Mari) Also, Colin is not in the group dancing scene, which I think is the deb ball, not a wedding. But you're talking about the scene near the middle where a bunch of people seem to be line dancing, right, not the clip of the two couples on the dance floor that's under the movie title graphic.

On the other hand...maybe the trailer is the best part of the movie;-D Now, now, Evelyn thatis not the way to think about ODB's career choices :D

mari....Question: why is he dressed for Woodstock, when this pic is supposedly from the mid-80s? Oi. Three possible answers: 1. Fashion trends took longer to cross the Atlantic? This was high-fashion in Kensington in the mid-80's. 2. His clothes were stolen by wandering nomads in the desert and he stumbled into the bazzar in the background of the photo wrapped in only in an old, smelly blanket that had been used under a camel's saddle, gratefully 'borrowed' the clothes from an aging hippie who was travelling the world in search of "the Truth" who turned out to be KP's father, that's how they meet, she talked him into joining the Peace Corps and he fathered the child he never knew one cold desert night when they had no more fire wood and it was necessary to share bodily warmth? 3. His character has the same fashion sense as.....well.....CF? (inserting facetious winkie) Karen....the "old" pic of Colin Raising hand over here in the corner, "I saw it, I saw it" but I forget what day it is so how can you expect me to remember details like that?

(Allison) Now, now, Evelyn that is not the way to think about ODB's career choices :D ROTF...you must admit he does make good trailers....

(Evelyn)On the other hand...maybe the trailer is the best part of the movie;-D Heehee...I do hate it when they give away all the good lines and scenes in the trailers. Let's hope that isn't the case here and they know "what a drool girl wants..."

Plus trailers are often v. misleading (often intentionally) ...

What happened to Hola Lola and the imminent announcement she hinted at last week or the week before?

(Lisa) Wardrobe: Three possible answers Finally, I get to post LOL. I loved your suggestions, esp. no 2 and would gladly offer to be KP's bodydouble opposite ODB in that one. Who cares about getting a cold, small price to pay. (btw I don't at all resemble KP, but you stated it was dark, and I suppose we would have to curl up very tightly under a blanket, so who would know?

(Rika)not the clip of the two couples on the dance floor that's under the movie title graphic. Isn't the wedding scene from the beginning not related to the main characters? I thought, if this is the one we're speaking of, that AB was a food server at a county club type of place, and was working the wedding. I too, think the line dance scene was from a deb ball. (Lisa)3. His character has the same fashion sense as.....well.....CF? (inserting facetious winkie) LOL, low blow, Lisa-even with the winkie;-) (Pam)I believe in SLOW there is a scene where he is dancing with his wife, also Playmaker has a scene as does Dutch Girls, so he does dance. He dances in LE as well. (Lisa)What happened to Hola Lola and the imminent announcement she hinted at last week or the week before? I've been wondering about that myself.

(Linda) Isn't the wedding scene from the beginning not related to the main characters? I thought, if this is the one we're speaking of, that AB was a food server at a county club type of place, and was working the wedding. Agreed, but I think the two-couples-dancing under the movie title graphic is from another event.

Hi Everybody! Dateline Minnesota Tundra RE: Harry Potter Trailers Was talked into a film excursion to HP by a group of persuasive youths (please,please,please,please,please) while I was under the influence of turkey over the weekend. I cracked. Saw many, many trailers (Kangaroo Jack -blech-comes to mind. But alas, no shake, shake, shake. Not even one little shake. Will have to content myself with Karen's snappies and web trailer until the booty beautiful comes along.

(Rika)But you're talking about the scene near the middle where a bunch of people seem to be line dancing, right, Yes, that's the one--not the 2 couples on the dance floor and not the waitressing gig. (Lisa)1. Fashion trends took longer to cross the Atlantic? LOL, just the opposite I think, but you're onto something in #2, though.;-) My main recollection of fashion in the mid-80s was wearing my hair very short and spiked a la Annie Lennox. Sweet dreams are made of this . . .:-)

Reminder, this is on tonight at 8 and 11 (ET) in the U.S. on TCM. I assume this has been shown in the UK? If so, is there much CF to look forward to? 'Forever Ealing' Revisits Brit Comedy Heyday Wed Dec 4, 6:11 AM ET By Steven Oxman HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - "Forever Ealing" is a relatively plain and straightforward documentary about England's Ealing Studios, which during its heyday in the 1940s and '50s turned out some truly memorable, intensely witty dark comedies. The documentary itself may not be an especially revealing or sophisticated piece of work, but its mix of well-selected clips and interviews unquestionably accomplishes its raison d'etre: It makes one want to see the films, many of which spool out on Turner Classic Movies through December. What more can be asked of an appetizer than to make one crave the main course? Ealing Studios was founded in 1902, and its history summarizes the cinematic century -- from the silents through the ultimate dominance of television (the BBC owned the studio for a time) and the struggling economics of the present day. The docu gives a nod to all the eras, but Ealing would simply be a footnote in cinematic history -- several of their soundstages were homes to good work -- were it not for the slew of mid-century classics that share a uniquely British humor, drier than dry. They were produced under the studio reign of Michael Balcon, whose grandson Daniel Day-Lewis (news) narrates. The most famous of the films is probably the ever-delicious "Kind Hearts and Coronets" (1949), in which Alec Guinness plays a serial killer who murders the many relatives who stand between him and a dukedom. For good measure, he plays all the relatives, too. There was also "The Lavender Hill Mob" (1951), a witty crime comedy also starring Guinness. And, praised in this docu as the jewel in the crown, there was "The Lady Killers" (1955), an ensemble black comedy about the doomed efforts of bumbling assassins to kill the epitome of the little old lady. Along with interviews with a screenwriter, cinematographer and some surviving actors, "Forever Ealing" throws in tributes by contemporary directors who were affected by the films. Martin Scorsese (news) claims, not particularly believably, that "Kind Hearts and Coronets" had an impact on "GoodFellas." Terry Gilliam (news), more believably, refers to clips that have a direct line to "Brazil." Stephen Frears (news) and John Landis talk more generally but with the same clear enthusiasm. It's the glee they emit when discussing the movies that really matters in "Forever Ealing," telling viewers there's something particular about this distinctive collection of comedies that makes Ealing live on.

(Mari). I assume this has been shown in the UK? I don't think so. Or least if it has, I missed it.

With the pedigree of Ealing Studios and return of a classic comedy like TIOBE do you think there is a possibility of a BAFTA nom for CF this year? I think several scenes are worthy. The proposal w/ FOC, the audition w/JD and I especially liked the brother scene as he introduces RE to everyone. Could we even hope for an Oscar nom? English films are darlings of the Academy. Could someone else be singled out? JD? I'll add a third request for that HolaLola teaser. Was thinking about GWAPE (absent any reports from Contern)....didn't I read somewhere that CF nationality includes Dutch ancestry? (Also Italian, Portugese). LOL Lisa about photo from WAGW - I have a feeling it is number 3. I remember a quote about him showing up to the set looking like an unmade bed. Left to his own devices me thinks he is a fashion free-for-all. Snow and shovel are beckoning.

With everything they have planned for a one-hour special (between this article and the description on the TCM web site), I'd be very surprised if there is any more than a very fleeting ODB appearance.

Ok, for those in later time zones, tune in because he is in the Ealing show. First time is a few minutes into the show, talking about the studio's physical plant--something about narrow corridors, musty smells and dodgy plumbing, and it being typically English. Said with affection. Then there's a bit with him toward the end, talking about the thrill of seeing the new Ealing logo and being part of that. Looks like the interview took place when he was here doing TIOBE promos; clothes and setting are the same as for his interview with Tom Brook, which ran on BBC America's Talking Movies. 2 clips from TIOBE--Jack's interview with Lady B and Jack asking Algy if Gwendolyn will turn into her mother in 150 years. Also, they do a scan of TV shows that the BBC shot at Ealing over the years, and we see a listing for Tumbledown with CF. That's about it!

Well, at least he got more screen time than Rupie (who should really have re-thought that shirt). Seeing the Tumbledown listing (along with a mention of "some of the finest TV movies made" in the 35 years when the BBC was shooting at Ealing) was great - they only showed perhaps 8-10 BBC film listings, with Tumbledown being the final one.

(Rika) Well, at least he got more screen time than Rupie (who should really have re-thought that shirt) Isn't that the truth...he looked like a Tesco manager. He also is sporting a 'new face'; painfully stretched-out..resembles Michael Jackson. (Mari) Then there's a bit with him toward the end, talking about the thrill of seeing the new Ealing logo and being part of that ..since he had grown up with it[Ealing logo] The show was boring at the beginning, but it perked up. Thanks to Alec Guiness.

Can't wait to see this. I heard a little bit (about the plumbing, wondering what the heck is he talking about?!) while on the phone with Ev, but I think we're going to have to invest in those cellphones with image capabilities next. ;-)

(Steven Oxman) The most famous of the films is probably the ever-delicious "Kind Hearts and Coronets" (1949), in which Alec Guinness plays a serial killer who murders the many relatives who stand between him and a dukedom. For good measure, he plays all the relatives, too. Steven O. should have done his homework (or listened more carefully). Dennis Price played the murderer in this marvelous film, a childhood favorite of mine. CF looked cute in his two short bits on "Forever Ealing," even if there wasn't enough of him.

Hi everyone Someone emailed me regarding the information about CF. I'm just waiting until some things get executed and ok'd before I post information here. Sorry. Hopefully in the next few weeks I'll be able to stop by again. And Yes Karen, you may see our wedding in some magazines. I'm marrying an ex client. Need I say more? :) Happy Holiday everyone! L

One more thing, If any of you who live in Southern California are interested in being an unpaid extra in our new production starring Tobey Maguire, Jeff Bridges and some others, December 7 and/or December 14th, email me at Hutchence2000@yahoo.com Sorry to post this if it's forbidden on the board. Take care L

Finally caught Londinium on HBO. Mike Binder of Mind of the Married Man joins Firth and a French actress. I was struck how much Christopher Lawford sounded like the guy who plays Jake on Mind of the Married Man. They are voice doubles. This isn't the best showcase of Firth's talents, is it? Even Mariel Hemingway falls way short of her capabilities in this film. It was mildly entertaining, worth an evening's diversion but it didn't rock my world exactly.

KJ hasn't bothered to post the link to a "new" old article that was found, where Colin talks about Valmont. It was in the June 1990 issue of Harper & Queens, and can be found here: http://www.geocities.com/kgjart/HandQValmArtclCF90.html The last few paragraphs are especially interesting:The most frequent criticism was levelled at a lack of danger or nastiness in the film and its characters (chiefly mine). While many of the objections may have been understandable, they almost always seemed to indicate that the viewer had very specific expectations as to what the film should be, and a demand that it should be the same as the other versions, but better. True, the word 'dangerous' does not feature in the title and the film makes no promises of it, but Valmont's behaviour, if one analyses it, can hardly be considered harmless; he rapes a fourteen-year-old child, while another victim of his manipulations weeps next door. The next day he commits adultery with the latter in order to satisfy a bet, and leaves her to claim the favours of yet another woman as his reward. Despite the general subsequent misery, all this is conducted with such charm and gentleness that the damage is difficult to perceive. It is greatly to Forman's credit that many people consider this man 'too likeable'. The film not only explores human gullibility but also seems to draw many viewers into being party to it. Another source of controversy has been the ending: many feel that it should have been more cataclysmic. But Forman's film recognises a world where suffering is rarely accompanied by justice. Those bereaved and wronged endure pointlessly; perpetrators are rarely punished and innocence gives way to cynicism. The astonishing thing is the sheer beauty and tenderness with which the director observes these horrors, making it impossible to emerge depressed. This important film will have to free itself from its various associations before it can be judged clearly. Maybe that will take twenty years but I am certain it will still be around.

Thanks for the very interesting article Karen. It's been 12 years and is certainly getting TV time where its competitors are not. He was right it is still around and I'm quite certain he is the reason for it and the attraction to it IMO.

Karen, thanks for the interesting "new" old article. Is this Colin talking or the interviewer's analysis? Will have to go to link to see... (article)Valmont's behaviour, if one analyses it, can hardly be considered harmless; he rapes a fourteen-year-old child, while another victim of his manipulations weeps next door. The next day he commits adultery with the latter in order to satisfy a bet, and leaves her to claim the favours of yet another woman as his reward. Despite the general subsequent misery, all this is conducted with such charm and gentleness that the damage is difficult to perceive. It is greatly to Forman's credit that many people consider this man 'too likeable'. The film not only explores human gullibility but also seems to draw many viewers into being party to it. Forman does deserve the credit for the characters being so likeable - didn't continually direct them to be nicer, nicer. And CF is so good at playing likeable even when he's so bad! And as Pam points out it's the "Valmont" version that's still around (on movie channels).

(me)didn't continually direct them to be nicer, nicer. Sorry should read: didn't he continually direct them to be nicer...

Ah, he did write the article. Well done, Colin. Love the picture of the cast. Thirteen year old FB found a nice place to sit for the picture!

The astonishing thing is the sheer beauty and tenderness with which the director observes these horrors, making it impossible to emerge depressed. This is what strikes me the most when comparing the two versions...If Dangerous Liasons WERE on cable, I would be unable to watch it again. The malevolence of the characters is exhausting to me...

Lora...the article is the words of 'the man himself'. And it is an excellent article.Thanks to all concerned. "he rapes a fourteen-year-old child," First time I've heard him say this... I always maintained such but august members of this board assured me this was customary in those times. "At the end of six months I was left with little sense of the result, and a feeling that my performance belonged more to the director than to myself. I was not looking forward to seeing it." I have always wondered exactly how he would have played Valmont had it not been for Milos' "powerful personality" that directs every move. We formerly had one of Forman's assistant on this board [Cheryl are you out there?] and she related what a miserable experience it was for Colin. "At press conferences and premieres, superlatives flowed. Then came the reviews." Ah ha...he reads reviews! "It is greatly to Forman's credit that many people consider this man 'too likeable'. The film not only explores human gullibility but also seems to draw many viewers into being party to it." Well not me. I never considered Valmont likeable or Colin in it.I was never drawn into this. Not my favorite film . And by the sound of this interview not Colin's either. I feel vindicated:-)))

Thanks, KJ and Karen! I like the fact that Colin is defending the film and Forman. Very manly. ;-D

So do you think he wrote this article in response to his experience that came from making it and/or in response to the reviews? 1990, is that 1 or 2 years after the movie was released? It's very strange to read an analysis by an actor who was in the film, usually it would be written by a crtic in support of or panning a film. Maybe his dad asked him to do it for his scrapebook ;-). "Making Valmont with Milos Forman." Very academic ;-). Perhaps writing this helped him deal with the whole aftermath of the Valmont experience.

Thanks, Karen and KJArt. What a fascinating article! Well written, too.

Thanks very much for the link to the article Karen and KJArt..... At the end of six months I was left with little sense of the result, and a feeling that my performance belonged more to the director than to myself. I was not looking forward to seeing it. I myself was firmly among those who wanted nothing further to do with the 'Liaisons' industry. These lines seem to confirm what has been read here before about the set being stressful and intense. Also some degree of frustration for the actors in the working environment. So, in the end, he fled to the woods with a fellow actor. And yet, when he had stepped away from it all and had been allowed some distance to possibly reflect about and digest it all, his viewpoint softened perhaps or grew? In any case, he seems to genuinely feel the film was top notch and that MF extracted an A+ performance out of him. Timing, it's all in the timing. (That and the critics. I find the different views of the American vs. European reviewers interesting.)

(CF)I emerged dazzled and emotional (though I must point out that my capacity to enjoy the film was largely due to the fact that much of it is free of my presence.) Well, to me the experience of the film was quite the opposite. ODB carries the film. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be watching it (and I do regularly). I think I understand, what Milos Forman wantet to present (the claw in the velvet glove) and IMO he did achieve just that. (Have to say, that I HATE ODB's hair in this movie). Not to forget - thank you for the article, KJ and Karen

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Thank you KJ and Karen for the article. I have to say that Valmont is a favorite of mine! I have always loved this movie and it was the film that got me started on ODB. I think I saw it in the theatres at least 10 -12 times....when it came out on VHS, some friends and I had a Valmont / Dangerous Liaison discussion. Of the 4 people who participated, only one liked DL better... I thought ODB was brilliant as the Vicomte! A very subtle performance. JM went over the top with his portrayal...all that leering and spitting...not many women I know would fall for such a guy. But ODB! Who wouldn't be taken in (well, except for Evelyn ;-) )?? (article) The most frequent criticism was levelled at a lack of danger or nastiness in the film and its characters (chiefly mine). While many of the objections may have been understandable, they almost always seemed to indicate that the viewer had very specific expectations as to what the film should be, and a demand that it should be the same as the other versions, but better. I thought the "lack of danger or nastiness" is what made this film great! (Annette) (Have to say, that I HATE ODB's hair in this movie). LOL....ohhhh Annette! I love his hair in Valmont (and I know it isn't even his).... those curls just get me. I keep hoping I'll get really long curls for GWAPE!! ;-)

(Annette)I wonder if he still feels this way about seeing his work? He didn't like SLOW either. But one wonders what he thought of L'scum;-) (Annette) (Have to say, that I HATE ODB's hair in this movie). (Tress)LOL....ohhhh Annette! I love his hair in Valmont Agree.And his dancing. Can't beat this film for pure eye-candy.

I love the picture in the article with him, all the women draped all over him, and Henry Thomas kind of shoved over to one side. And what about the question he asks early in the article, about whether or not he IS in fact like Valmont? Interesting.....

another company had managed to complete a film based on the same book despite having begun preparation some two years after Forman. . . He would, if necessary, spend an entire afternoon on a single line if he thought the performance gave too much away. If he was still not satisfied he might return two days later to reshooth the entire scene. If it hadn't have been for Forman's ego and obsessiveness, Valmont could have been first out of the gate and, IMO, would have been much better received instead of trying to follow the footsteps of the highly acclaimed DL. And we might have had a subsequent film called Being Colin Firth in which the characters travel through a portal in CF's brain, then exit and land on the Jersey Turnpike.;-);-) In a relatively recent interview, though I can't recall which one, I think CF took a decidedly dimmer view of the Forman experience--saying he repeatedly had to do the same lines, and *still* be told he was being too malevolent. On occasions he would ask for two or three alternative performances, which would give him a choice in the cutting room. More ego . . . and unfair to the actors. If the director doesn't know the characters' motivations, the actors are adrift. To me, some of the ambiguities are real weaknesses in the film. And I *like* the film, but can see the many flaws. Meanwhile, Stephen Frears started 2 years later and got his film out a year earlier. BTW, France was one of the few countries outside the U.S. where Valmont got a release. I don't think it came out theatrically in Britain, did it?

I always like to think of Valmont as the *original* 'wet-shirt' movie [I just had to go back to discover it, after discovering him during the second exposure...]. And yes, I loved the hair because I found those soaking long locks so droolable... He is the only actor I can think of who could wear those elegant costumes and yet still come across as completely masculine. *sigh*

(Mari), And we might have had a subsequent film called Being Colin Firth in which the characters travel through a portal in CF's brain, then exit and land on the Jersey Turnpike.;-);-) ROTF! You made my day! And, Happy Birthday! See you at O&E.

What a fascinating (and well-written!) article. Many thanks to all involved. Love the picture of all the actors piled up together, but I think I would rather have MT's position: full torso snuggle with CF AND an arm around me. Yum! I find very interesting his questioning whether he really was at least a bit like Valmont. I remember reading somewhere an interview done after P&P that he said he was a Wickham in his younger days, so maybe he came to the conclusion that he *was* a manipulator. Combine that with what something else that I've read, that after he achieved such early, and seemingly effortless success with AC, he was overly concientious about appearing to those who "knew him when" that he had let success go to his head. When he ran off to Canada, it's almost like he's saying "See! See! I'm not REALLY like that womanizer; I'm willing to move to another continent to be with this woman!" Or maybe I think too much :) And ramble too much :P

(article)"It is greatly to Forman's credit that many people consider this man 'too likeable'. The film not only explores human gullibility but also seems to draw many viewers into being party to it." (Evelyn)Well not me. I never considered Valmont likeable or Colin in it.I was never drawn into this. Not my favorite film . And by the sound of this interview not Colin's either. You speak right from my heart. (Annette)(Have to say, that I HATE ODB's hair in this movie) So do I ;-) (article) The most frequent criticism was levelled at a lack of danger or nastiness in the film and its characters I always found them too nasty for my taste. The first time I saw Valmont (that was before I "discovered" ODB I even didn't watch it to the end. Only later I forced myself to watch the whole movie.

When I was shopping for Mari's BD present I "Google imaged" a number of CF film names to browse through. Now I can't remember which one I was in at the time, but a still from a film that was definitely none of the ones I was searching came up. CF was in period clothes, I would guess Regency, and from his appearance it was pre-P&P, but not too much before. He was standing behind a seated woman, looking at her. She was facing the camera. I don't know who the actress was, she had an average face and straight brown hair parted in the middle and pulled back. She didn't look too happy. Who knows what this was from? I can go back later and try and find it. ;)

(Lisa)He was standing behind a seated woman, looking at her. She was facing the camera. I don't know who the actress was, she had an average face and straight brown hair parted in the middle and pulled back. She didn't look too happy. It sounds like Turn of the screw. I haven't seen it, but I believe I saw a photo on the net from this movie, that fits your description.

TIOBE was released in Sweden in November as Mister Ernest. The reviews in general, are as mixed as the 120 I�ve read at MRQE, so I�ll just post a few quotes, mostly regarding CF: Mister Ernest is inspired by Shakespeare and it is quite obvious. It is like A Midsummernights Dream in frocks and is entertaining, smart and witty, but nothing more. CF and RE function well together, they banter in a way, that makes their relationship trustworthy. Cecilys dreams of a knight increases the sense of Shakespearian dreamplay, but are �over done�. The script is complicated. As by Shakespeare and Oscar Wilde inspired by Shakespeare. Wildes text is treated with respect, perhaps too much, the lines being the center of the film. The speed of the film is very rapid. The film suffers from it, they should have given the lines more time to sink. It would have given the actors more room for acting. Now they are Wildes marionettes. Firth has made several trips to the country of Jane Austen and was very good in BJD, but he has never been better than in this film. Perhaps it is CF�s presence that lifts RE, who when truth has to be told, haven�t been this funny since AC. Remember, these are not my observations. I just translated them. I didn�t remember having read about the Shakespeare reference before, which is what lead me to post.

Annette had shared the Shakespearean comment with me in e-mail, and I thought it was interesting so I'm glad she decided to post it. I don't know if Wilde had A Midsummer Night's Dream in mind (or if OP did), but I can kind of see why the reviewer said that. Nice that they liked CF so much.

(Rika)I don't know if Wilde had A Midsummer Night's Dream in mind (or if OP did) OP most definitely did. He talks about it in the production notes, which this journalist would've received before writing the article. I always find it interesting to see how much they lift from the presskits. ;-)

(Annette) Well, to me the experience of the film was quite the opposite. ODB carries the film. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be watching it (and I do regularly). I think I understand, what Milos Forman wantet to present (the claw in the velvet glove) and IMO he did achieve just that. (Have to say, that I HATE ODB's hair in ... I can't agree with you more. I found his performance the only virtue of the film, except for Fiona's. IMO all the other performances fell short. Although I do like his hair clipped back, but don't care for the hanging down look. (KJ) He is the only actor I can think of who could wear those elegant costumes and yet still come across as completely masculine. *sigh* *sigh* *sigh* Nobody does it better. Thanks for the interesting perspective in interview Annette. Glad they liked CF so much. I guess it is Shakespearean now that I think about it.

Hi everyone. It�s been a long time between posts for me (well over a year), and I admit to recently lurking a bit. It�s great seeing so many new people post, and very comforting knowing that many long term Drooleurs are still around. Much has happened in a year, but my obsession with CF and my affection for my fellow obsessors never waivers. Wow, there�s even a new Colin topic: happy thought, indeed!

Welcome back LisaJH and am especially looking forward to your posting tomorrow. *goody goody goody*

I just got an interesting note in a letter today, to wit: Just wanted you to know that Colin's really hit the big time now--he got several mentions (two so far) in Suzanne Brockmann's latest bestseller, Into the Night, which I am currently reading ... It's the first time I've known a Non-American movie star to be mentioned in a mainstream book. It was wonderful. Slowly but surely, we train friends to keep an eye out for us! ;-)

Well done, KJ! Will have to check the book and find out the context of the remarks.

I'm so behind.... Sumptuous is the word that comes to mind for Valmont. I'd watch it just for the look and the feel of it. The acting does seem a bit contrived, but only a bit. Maybe over-rehearsed. Meg a little shrill, Colin a little too obviously ingratiating, and Annette's voice too coached. Interesting article. Many good scenes.

Colin's name was also mentioned very briefly in one of Jilly Cooper's novels. I read it while on holidays in March/April 2001. I suspect she is another fan. A murder suspect (a movie director) said he made a phone call to an actor asking him to be in a movie and when the police officer asked "which actor" the suspect said "Colin Firth". I got such surprise I woke my travelling companion (who wasn't near as impressed as I was).

Colin's name was also mentioned very briefly in one of Jilly Cooper's novels. Anything beats being mentioned in "Mind of a Married Man". We almost had a heart attack even thinking he would cameo in it.

(Evelyn) Anything beats being mentioned in "Mind of a Married Man". We almost had a heart attack even thinking he would cameo in it. Great comment Evelyn. LOL.

A little thrill tonight at the last fastest finger question on the British Who Wants to be a Millionaire show -- Put these Colin Firth films in order of their release...EP...FP...SIL...BJD (repeated by me in order since of course I knew the answer =) ). And Chris Tarrant seemed surprised that a woman won this question?!

(EmmaB)Who Wants to be a Millionaire show -- Put these Colin Firth films in order We had a Jepardy-special with female journalists some while ago, where one of the topics were Colin Firth. One of the women actually answered almost as quick as I. Perhaps a fellow firthette? btw, I don't normally see this show, just happened to catch this one. I wonder why.

Just to let you know that "Forever Ealing" will be shown on Channel 4 in UK on Monday 30th Dec. at 1.25pm. no mention of TIOBE at all in blurb, but I guess it must be the same one as you all saw recently and were able to fill us in about. Also later that day at 7pm on BBC 1 "The real Jane Austen", narrated by Anna Chancellor ( J.A's great neice as I bet you all know. I didn't;-( ). No mention of P&P or Darcy, but worth setting the vid for.

BTW Wow Karen! Thanks for my favourite marzipan man for the Festive Season, great pic. Reminds me that TEP is also in xmas film list this year too in UK.

(Lizza) narrated by Anna Chancellor ( J.A's great neice as I bet you all know. I didn't;-( ). I didn't! Must be a few "greats" or "grands" in there, though, unless AC is a lot older than she looks.

..narrated by Anna Chancellor ( J.A's great neice as I bet you all know. Duckface?? ;-) I found "Forever Ealing" interesting. Thanks for the heads-up. (Lizza) marzipan man LOL.Yummmmmm

[tag has been closed now] Thanks for the info on Forever Ealing being on Channel 4, Lizza. Now, none of you guys can say he's never on your TV. *snicker* (OK, is only for brief nanosecond, but counts)

Wot Boss? Us complain? Nevahhh! We just miss having those Xmas scoops like TOTS to tell you about :-)) Apologies for not closing ;-(

BTW anyone, where is that Christmas pic from?

(Lisa) BTW anyone, where is that Christmas pic from? The English Patient

(Lisa)BTW anyone, where is that Christmas pic from? It's from TEP, where Geoffrey Clinton is Santa at a Christmas party, while Cathrine is "otherwise engaged". The picture is from where he finally finds her, smelling marzipan in her hair. (Actually a favourite scene of mine).

Sorry, Tress, didn't want to seem smart, just posted at the same time as you. BTW - Somewhat funny to know, that we are sitting on each side of the world, thinking the same thought simultaniously.

(Annette) Sorry, Tress Absolutely no need to apologize! You gave a much better answer! BTW - Somewhat funny to know, that we are sitting on each side of the world, thinking the same thought simultaniously. LOL...so you were thinking about all the naughty things you would like to do to Santa, too?? Amazing!! ;-D

Thank you, Karen for ODSanta. All this talk about TEP makes me want to go and watch, I think I will.

(Tress) LOL...so you were thinking about all the naughty things you would like to do to Santa, too?? Amazing!! ;-D LOL Tress, not so hard when you think about it though, I'm fairly continuous with those types of thoughts myself...wait a minute....ooops, there I go again! Does kind of give new meaning to the song "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus" though, doesn't it?

I hear that the WAGW trailer was running with Two Weeks Notice at Saturday's sneak preview. TWN officially opens this Friday.

From Screendaily, though it's about the producer, many mentions of Love Actually: Kenworthy pulls back from DNA 16 December 2002 Love, Actually, which wrapped this month, marks the end of an era for Producer Duncan Kenworthy, who is stepping back from running UK National Lottery franchise DNA Films to focus on producing. "Until now I have been co-chairman with Andrew [Macdonald]," said Kenworthy, best known as producer on Four Weddings And A Funeral and Notting Hill. "We have taken all the same meetings, we have been joined at the hip. It's not an efficient way to do things and it doesn't play to my strengths. Andrew will take the lead in running the company and I'm going to be producing films, which is what I enjoy more." Kenworthy aims for the move to free him to produce non-DNA films as well as franchise titles. He and Macdonald have come under flack for spending time outside DNA producing lucrative, big-budget productions The Beach and Notting Hill. With the franchise falling behind in production volume - it has produced only six films in five years - Macdonald brought his regular collaborator Danny Boyle into the franchise on 28 Days Later, answering critics with a runaway hit. The film's success also did no harm to DNA's talks with Fox Searchlight over a pending longterm deal. But, although Kenworthy has brought DNA in on Love, Actually as much as he could, Universal Pictures was hardly going to allow co-investors on a Richard Curtis film. While DNA takes a credit and has some financial benefit, the franchise is not an investor as it was on 28 Days. by all accounts, Curtis' directing debut has gone superbly. The Multi-stranded story of Londoners in the run-up to Christmas came in only two days over schedule after a 13-week shoot, despite being rained off due to an electric storm in France. Kenworthy is all the more relieved as Curtis had to manage a hefty ensemble cast including Hugh Grant, Rowan Atkinson, Colin Firth, Emma Thompson, Liam Neeson, Martine McCutcheon and Bill Nighy. "However hard it got, you could see on Richard's face that it was a lot easier doing than standing there and watching someone else do it," Kenworthy says. but in terms of personal credits, Kenworthy has given ground to Working Title Films co-chiefs Tim Bevan and Eric Fellner, who for the first time on a Kenworthy-Curtis collaboration take producer rather than executive producer credits. While Kenworthy and Curtis took Notting Hill to Working Title, the production powerhouse now has its own deal with Curtis and was part of the development process on Love, Actually, which is scheduled for release in late 2003. "There is a significant difference: I'm a producer for hire on this one," Kenworthy said. "In reality, on the ground, that has not made any difference. Working Title agreed I would be the producer during production and in post it would be all three of us." While Kenworthy guards his producing credits on Curtis films fiercely, even this potentially fraught producing triangle is said to have gone smoothly. He cannot, however, resist adding: "We share producing credits, but I'm in first position."

Thank you, Karen. Thank you, Mari, for the WAGW trailer info. Looks like I'm going to have to see TWN. But, I'm really excited that they are running the trailer in what seems like hot spots.(I'm assuming TWN will be a hot spot). I hope when the time comes for publicity for WAGW they will give it a great send-off.

Me no happy. :-( Let's see if I can manage this without screwing up.

I dunno, it's there when I log in, then disappears. Go to: http://www.comingsoon.net/cgi-bin/archive/fullnews.cgi?newsid1040079090,96934,

Ugh! Horrible poster. Amanda looks terrible too. She's supposed to have Colin's eyes? Well we now know where this movie is going... ... ...

Here you go. It was a tricky little devil, but it didn't surprise me:

E-e-ek! I think WAGA is aimed squarely at the US teen/Amanda Bynes fan market. "The Princess Diaries" did very well in the States, but was marketed as a video rental/cable TV product in the UK (and did well as such). IMHO WAGA will get the same treatment, and CF's next promotion in the UK will be for Mark Herman's "Hope Springs", which follows on from "Brassed Off" and "Little Voice". (more successful in the UK). But WAGA will get a wide release in the US, which has to be a major plus!

but alas, there is no hope for me, closing tags

In the British edition of Cosmo, there's an article about Martine McCutcheon, where she talks about working with Huge and Colin in particular. How Colin made her feel very at home on the set and could not have been more kind. I've asked the person who emailed me if he could type out the relevant parts, but don't know if I'll receive it. That mag isn't here yet.

What month's issue is it, Karen? I'd say the audience for WAGW is pre-teen; that's AB's crowd. The thing looks like one big cultural cliche. When they do the sequel, AB can wear a Union Jack, sandwiched in-between two cowboys.;-)

I'd say the audience for WAGW is pre-teen; that's AB's crowd. I am with Bethan. This film makes no sense to me. I know more than most in the UK about the US and am very familiar with tastes of college age to dotage but all this dated stuff about debs and such is a complete no no for UK teens. The only market is for CF fans and I shan't be going....I'l wait for it to appear on satellite and then I shall watch it with gritted teeth.

all this dated stuff about debs and such is a complete no no for UK teens As it is here. Would be considered laughable by most (but you already knew that;-). AB did have a show here geared to pre-teens (8--12 or so), so that group will go regardless of subject matter.

I'll wait for it to appear on satellite I just don't think that WAGW will get a theatrical release in the UK. And I think CF chose a movie that tied in with having Will (possible AB fan?) with him for the summer! B-u-t...having said this, I think/hope that it will be great fun to watch and it will definitely get a good showing on Sky movies. And there's no reason why it shouldn't be a huge commercial success in the US and introduce CF to a much wider audience (teens and mums!). Didn't the last AB movie make nearly $50million? I've been computer-less for a few weeks, and so this may be old news! Andrew Davies was interviewed recently on the radio, and was asked about all his recent projects (Deronda/Zhivago etc). He said that the work he was most pleased with was his screenplay for TEOR and that he liked writing for established characters. So hopefully we've got some good screenwriting in store - Mark Herman/Richard Curtis/Andrew Davies and GWAPE!

AB did have a show here geared to pre-teens (8--12 or so), so that group will go regardless of subject matter. Wouldn't WAGA appeal to early teens (13-14 yearolds?)

(Allison) I'l wait for it to appear on satellite and then I shall watch it with gritted teeth. And therefore you'll need some preparation. I suggest checking with your dentist about getting a mouth guard. Does wonders against the harmful effects of grinding. ;-) WAGW is a fluffy movie for the preteen crowd that doesn't know anything about debutantes but is still firmly esconced in the world of fairytales. And that's what this movie is. American Girl goes to England and finds father living in a castle (or similar), goes to balls, etc. It's the stuff little girls eat up. More Princess Bride and that other Prince Charming movie (Forever After or whatever). OK, here's the article which was in the December Cosmo: Reading now Martine has landed an absolute corker of a plum role opposite Hugh Grant in the new Richard Curtis film, Love Actually, a romantic comedy which will be released next Christmas and promises to be the big British film of the year. In her particular story line, which is being filmed on location around London at the moment, Hugh is the Prime Minister and Martine is on the kitchen staff at Downing Street. "Working with Hugh is a dream come true," says Martine, who plays the role of a tea girl, which suggests a costume of aprons and Nylon overalls. "No!" she cries, "This is a Hollywood movie, so she is a Hollywood movie tea girl, not a drudge. There is an innocence about her that is really sweet--you can see why the Prime Minister would fall in love with her, because she is clever and bubbly and refreshing. She is a breath of fresh air." Martine is thrilled to be part of an all-star cast which includes Emma Thompson, Alan Rickman, Liam Neeson, Colin Firth and, of course, Hugh Grant himself. "It's phenomenal. That's the company you want to keep as an actress. mIt's pretty amazing, but I try to keep my head down and keep focused on the job and not to get too excited and giggly about the whole thing. But I've been pinching myself when I've been there, going, "Oh my God, I'm sitting between Liam Neeson and Alan Rickman." She has struck up a friendship with Emma Thompson ["me and Em are on the same wavelength"], while "naughty" Alan makes her laugh, Hugh is "really sweet" and she will never forget the kindness shown to her by Colin on her first day on set. "Colin is such a gent, really charming, really gorgeous. He is very gentle and he oozes warmth. He, out of everyone, made me feel most comfortable because, ooh, he just naturally oozes that warmth and charm." In fact, she was so chatty about Colin, yet coy about Hugh--the twin peaks of swoonsome, handsome British leading men--I can't help but wonder if she and Grant didn't particularly get on, or if they got on so well she was throwing up a Firth-shaped smokescreen. Martine, should I read anything into this? "No. God no! If I come across like that, I am going to have to nip that in the bud straight away. I'll get into trouble. There is nothing between me and Hugh. I think he is gorgeous but I think Colin is gorgeous, too. They are both absolutely lovely."

It's the stuff little girls eat up. That's what I don't understand. I don't think little Brit girls are that naive. I cannot believe US preteens are that different... It is fascinating. There is a thesis here ;-)

(Allison M) I'd say the audience for WAGW is pre-teen; that's AB's crowd. LOL...and I'll be there pushing all those pre-teens outta my way as I plan to be there 'front and center' at the first showing! I do wish for more dramas and serious roles, but I'm an addict and will take my Firth any way he comes! (Karen) It's the stuff little girls eat up. And bigger girls eat up those leather pants... ;-)

(Allison) I don't think little Brit girls are that naive. I cannot believe US preteens are that different... Why not? Everyone thinks Americans are different. The "princess meets prince charming et al" theme runs through so many movies popular with girls to women. The one I was thinking about before was Princess Bride, but Ever After works too. Then there's Kate & Leopold and even Legally Blonde and Pretty Woman for that matter. Our little girls may play on soccer teams, but they have a strong Inner Barbie. ;-)

(Bethan)Wouldn't WAGA appeal to early teens (13-14 yearolds?) That might be pushing it. When I was 14, I was sneaking out to see A Clockwork Orange. But I might not be typical;-) WAGW is a fluffy movie for the preteen crowd that doesn't know anything about debutantes but is still firmly esconced in the world of fairytales. And that's what this movie is. I very much agree. Young girls here love that stuff. And it helps enormously if the daddy is good looking.;-) I don't think it's a matter of naivete as I'd expect a pre-teen to be somewhat naive, but maybe our kids do live more in the fantasy world than those in the UK, and perhaps grow up a little later. We do tend to baby them (speaking as a perpetrator myself;-)

lynn b: The poster at comingsoon.net was not named wagwposter2.jpg. The one I reduced in k-size was though.

(Cosmo article)"Colin is such a gent, really charming, really gorgeous. He is very gentle and he oozes warmth. He, out of everyone, made me feel most comfortable because, ooh, he just naturally oozes that warmth and charm." **sitting here oozing sighs** (Cosmo)I can't help but wonder if she and Grant didn't particularly get on, or if they got on so well she was throwing up a Firth-shaped smokescreen. Martine, should I read anything into this? HMMMMM, wonder what a Firth-shaped smokescreen looks like? Verrry interesting article, thanks Karen... I think I hear those red finger nails tapping clear across the pond.;-) (Tress)LOL...and I'll be there pushing all those pre-teens outta my way as I plan to be there 'front and center'...And bigger girls eat up those leather pants... ;-) LOL, I'm with you.

(Mari)When they do the sequel, AB can wear a Union Jack, sandwiched in-between two cowboys.;-) LOL. And I hope they don't include Lord Dashwood. Enough already. Little girls will flip over this film . Mine is already asking about it having seen the trailer four times before HP;she thought it was being released during Xmas holidays.They annnounce it as "Coming Soon". You know how many times these girls looked at "Knight's Tale", "Miss Congeniality", "Princess Diaries", "Wedding Planner"..... Pass the barf bag.

they have a strong Inner Barbie. ;-) ROTF! Now let's get in touch with our Inner Barbie. ;-D I'm sure the script is great, otherwise he wouldn't have done it, right? ;-))))

(moon) I'm sure the script is great, otherwise he wouldn't have done it, right? Of course not! (insert facetious winkie)

(Karen) It's the stuff little girls eat up. And big girls who like the daddy. Thanks for the great article, Karen. Very interesting and the red nails are clicking, absolutely no doubt of it.

(moon) I'm sure the script is great, otherwise he wouldn't have done it, right? Of course not! (insert facetious winkie)

(Evelyn)Pass the barf bag. (moon) I'm sure the script is great, otherwise he wouldn't have done it, right? ;-)))) Pfft! Reminds me of Karen's birthday party: Karen's group/Not Karen's group. LOL! In fact, she was so chatty about Colin, yet coy about Hugh--the twin peaks of swoonsome, handsome British leading men Mr. Huge Twin Peak is on Leno tonight, promoting Two Weeks Notice. Bethan, TWN is more the speed of our 14-year olds. Still a fairytale, but at least Barbie is out of her training bra.;-) Nice Cosmo article, Karen, thanks.

(Moon) ROTF! Now let's get in touch with our Inner Barbie. ;-D Would this include seeing Made, oops, Maid in Manhattan?

(Allison) That's what I don't understand. I don't think little Brit girls are that naive. I cannot believe US preteens are that different... It is fascinating. There is a thesis here ;-) Princess Diaries, which was similarly targeted, grossed over $100 million in the U.S. Somebody was going to see it.

I was trying to remember the teen movies that came out when I was about 13 or 14...hmmmm.....Meatballs, Endless Love, Blue Lagoon, Little Darlings, Friday the 13th....I would have LOVED to have seen a movie like WAGW! I was stuck with cr*p. I, like Mari, would sneak in to 'forbidden' films...like Bertolucci's Luna (that one ruined me, I still have flashbacks) just to have a film to see! Even today, there aren't many movies for that particular age group. I think WAGW will do very well in the US. Most 13-14 year olds aren't as critical as their older counterparts. ;-) (Moon) ROTF! Now let's get in touch with our Inner Barbie. ;-D LOL...I'm channeling her now! I feel the need to get new pink shoes and read a Cosmo! :-)

Now let's get in touch with our Inner Barbie. ;-D To post or not to post, that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler (in general) to rise above the temptation to respond to inner Barbie conversation (insert lascivious winkie) and possibly suffer slings and arrows for outrageous comment...Ay, there's the rub. (insert bigger lascivious winkie)

Murph: please repost at 168. I'm not going to move it, only delete it. I have other things to do. This is the CF topic, not O&E. Thanks.

(Tress)Even today, there aren't many movies for that particular age group. I think WAGW will do very well in the US. Most 13-14 year olds aren't as critical as their older counterparts. ;-) Esp. little girls under the PG-13 category. There are many more boy movies... "Jackass", "American Pie 1 &2", "Spiderman".These girls have outgrown Disney animations and are in between.Don't think the movie studios haven't realized that. WAGW will do v. well. I just hate to see Marzipan Man mired in such. What next Inspector Gadget II? I hear the pay is good.

(Evelyn) What next Inspector Gadget II? I hear the pay is good. LOL...but Inspector Gadget did go on to do The Producers! There is hope even after something like that. ;-)

LOL...but Inspector Gadget did go on to do The Producers! There is hope even after something like that. ;-) And indeed he did with great success. But is there any comparison of Valmont to Ferris Bueller?

Sorry! I thought I was putting it at 168! Senior moment there. I'll re-post over there.

(Evelyn)What next Inspector Gadget II? I hear the pay is good. LOL! Rupie already beat him to it in Part 1. And look where it got him.;-) (Tress)I, like Mari, would sneak in to 'forbidden' films...like Bertolucci's Luna (that one ruined me, I still have flashbacks) For me it was Last Tango In Paris. Couldn't eat butter for years after that.;-) (Tress)Most 13-14 year olds aren't as critical as their older counterparts. ;-) This is true. And then inexplicably some of them grow into cynical 40-somethings who hate everything.;-)

(Martine McCutcheon) "Colin is such a gent, really charming, really gorgeous. He is very gentle and he oozes warmth. He, out of everyone, made me feel most comfortable because, ooh, he just naturally oozes that warmth and charm." I couldn't help but reposting that part. *swoon* Thanks for the article Karen! Martine could use a bookmark for Drool for Christmas, couldn't she? :)

The Globe and Mail: A lament for the Leading Man -- By JOHANNA SCHNELLER Friday, December 20, 2002 Could Hugh Grant be the next Cary Grant? The question came up while I watched this season's two big-ticket romantic comedies, Maid in Manhattan, starring Jennifer Lopez and Ralph Fiennes, and Two Weeks Notice, which pairs Hugh with Sandra Bullock. Both films are sadly ordinary -- cubic zirconia in a once diamond-bright genre. They tell the same story (rich guy woos poor but morally upright brunette), with the same set piece (gal wows guy by wearing a long dress to a fancy party), and the same soundtrack (songs by Norah Jones play in both films). Both even feature a sassy, supersized, supporting character -- played by the same actress, Sharon Wilkins. Still, it's instructive to compare their leading men. Fiennes looks like he's sucking on a lemon peel, while Grant is actually appealing. Adjusting, of course, for the fact that nobody writes romantic comedies the way they used to -- that today's screenplays lack the irreverent, humane wit that defined Cary -- Hugh is deft on his feet, knows how to deliver a line, and cleans up nicely. Most importantly, Hugh, like Cary before him, knows how to hang back and let his female partners sparkle in the spotlight. Making their women look really, really good is a skill that leading men once considered manly. Unfortunately, those days are over. Ours is an era of Leading Boys. Over a dishy lunch, my friend John Lownsbrough, a writer and movie buff, and I went through the list of current male idols and lamented how far they've tumbled from the Cary Grant standard. There are the Daddy's Boys, perpetual sons who are too busy avenging or attacking their fathers to pay attention to sex. Their leader is Tom Cruise, who comes of age in movie after movie, but can't seem to grow up. His spiritual guru is Dustin Hoffman; his posse includes Matt Damon ("surprising edge, but not developed yet," John Lo says), Ben Affleck (Who here actually likes to watch Ben act? Anyone? Anyone?!), Owen Wilson (too class-clown) and John Cusack (cute but squirrelly). There are the All-American Boys, decent, solid fellows who make darling uncles, but look itchy in black tie. This bunch is led by the triumvirate of truth -- Tom Hanks, Harrison Ford and Jeff Bridges -- and also includes Jeff Daniels, Bill Pullman, Bill Paxton and Brendan Fraser. Both John Lo and I like Fraser a lot, and think he makes smart choices (his co-stars read like a master class in acting: Christopher Walken, Ian McKellen, Michael Caine). But he's a bit too solid and earnest for Granthood. "In the wrong light, he can look like Rodney Dangerfield," Lo says. We have Pretty Boys, lean fellows with heartbreaking faces, but who don't quite cast a shadow. These include Jim Caviezel ("stunning, but no there there," Lo says), Campbell Scott ("too sane to want stardom"), Jude Law, Christian Bale, Ryan Phillippe and Johnny Depp (too slight to fantasize about without worrying that you'd break them in half), Taye Diggs (too self-involved), Richard Gere (ditto) and Antonio Banderas (his smoulder has too much smirk in it for me). There are the Cowboys, guys who can handle the sex, but can't manage the elegance: Kris Kristofferson was one, as Chris Cooper is now. Brad Pitt, Dennis Quaid, Russell Crowe, Mel Gibson, Nick Nolte, Josh Lucas -- it's like the biggest guns of our time took Steve McQueen lessons, but skipped Fred Astaire class. (And I do mean class.) George Clooney, who's also in this group, looks like a leading man. Watch his eyes, though, when he's supposed to be romancing a woman: He's too mistrustful, too withholding. He keeps saying in interviews that he'll never get married, and it shows. He's far more relaxed, happier-looking and sexier in roles where his co-stars are guys. I much prefer Viggo Mortensen. Here at last is a poet who can push you up against the wall. He and Benicio del Toro are my lust objects du jour, but they're Brando's heirs, not Grant's. And their imitators are the Boys with Dirty Fingernails: Ewan McGregor, Dermot Mulroney, Jeremy Davies, Philip Seymour Hoffman. Which brings us back to Brit Boys. Clive Owen has potential, as does Jeremy Northam, but we haven't yet seen what they can do. On the other hand, we've seen way too much of what Pierce Brosnan can't do -- I mean, the man managed to render Halle Berry sexless. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Hugh Jackman and Colin Firth, though they seem to shine more in period pieces. In the end, John Lo and I think Rupert Everett comes closest to Cary Granthood. He's sexy, funny, dashing. Like Grant, he has a strong feminine side; he likes women, he gets them. Unlike Grant, however, Everett is openly gay. Ironically, today's more honest sexual climate may be his undoing. "God bless him for having the guts to come out," Lo says, "though maybe if he'd stayed in the closet, he could have inherited Grant's place. What's left of it, anyway. But now that everyone knows Everett is gay, the element of ambiguity that made Grant so fascinating is gone." Not to mention, the likelihood of Everett's being offered leading roles in big-budget romances. We both sigh. So we're stuck with Hugh. Though he's too laddish and too ironic about romance itself to take Cary's place, he has the right last name. These days, that may be as close as we can get.

Firth would make a great Bond.

Article about Amanda Bynes, which mentions WAGW (although with original name): Last summer, Bynes went to England to film "American Girl," an upcoming Warners Bros. feature loosely based on the 1958 film "The Reluctant Debutante," about a British couple that must present their Americanized daughter (Sandra Dee) to society. This time Bynes plays Daphne, who � while re-establishing a relationship with her British politician dad (Colin Firth) � runs up against the fashions and foibles of the London social season. But the actress acknowledged the premise was far more viable three decades ago than it is now. "They are not much different over there," she says. "You walk into anywhere and there's a McDonald's and a Starbucks. It's almost like, 'Did I leave?"' http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/entertainment/s_108486.html

Thanks for all the cosmo stuff karen. Front of NOW magazine has Martine on it today so I checked it out and immediately discarded my pink shoes:-) It's looking like it was lifted from Cosmo and no surprises for guessing that all her gushings about ODB have been left out in favour of Huge Gnat. Oh well, it's not the first time and won't be the last! Love to think of Marzipan man getting mired Evelyn :-) Mired in mincemeat.... festively yummy! I for one will go see WAGW, as a L'dumbcra*P veteren, like so many, this cannot be worse. The suits already look promising, some nice eye candy ( rather than any teeth candy on sattelite:-))

(article) So we're stuck with Hugh. Though he's too laddish and too ironic about romance itself to take Cary's place, he has the right last name. These days, that may be as close as we can get. IMO the last name isn't even worthy of a comparison. How utterly ridiculous to even compare these two men. IMO HG couldn't shine CG's shoes. Must have been a slow news day. And what a ridiculous comment to make about Colin IMO. Must not have seen anything but P&P. Their loss.

According to comingsoon.net, GWAPE is listed for fourth quarter 2003 release.

Ah, thanks Karen, that's *the* one I want to see! I've seen a couple of things by the director..."Men Only" and a film about Franz Schubert with Simon Russell Beale....he gets very good, very natural performances from his cast, lots of close-ups, acting without words. Fingers crossed that GWAPE could feature in next years awards!

Gwad to hear GWAPE is on the schedule!:-) Also, WAGW has been pushed back a week to April 4.

(Bethan) Fingers crossed that GWAPE could feature in next years awards! Just your fingers? ;-) (Mari) WAGW has been pushed back a week to April 4. Ah!!!! Same date as the one set way back when (but possibly no longer any good) for Hope Springs. Hope springs eternal that they'll playing at same complex. *snicker*

I don't know if this falls under new, 'cause the pictures are older, but a nice gallery of Colin images: http://planeta.clix.pt/photoactor/galeria/html/cd/colinfirth.html

This cute one is new to me, as are some of the others shown above:

Thanks Mary, for the link. Wot a way to start the holidays. I've seen most of them but,some are new to me. Sigh, Sigh, Sigh. Happy Holidays!!!!

No new pics there, just a rearrangement of pics off other sites. (You'd know if you yourself had done a crop a certain way or adjusted the color.) :-( That pic, Murph, is just one of the four from the GQ Man of the Year spread.

Owwww, but I hadn't seen a lot of them, even if they were oldies. Thank you Mary and Merry Christmas....back to wrapping!

Thanks Karen, for a Great Year!!!! And thanks everyone else too!!!!!Hard to pick a favorite part, but coverage of TIOBE premieres would be hard to beat!!! Have my own little tape of interviews with CF to show for it. New Years resolution for me, images!!!!! Have a Great Holiday and a Happy Drool Year!!!

Ooops!!!Mary, Thanks for the photos. Not a bad one in the bunch!!!!

Thanks, Murph! Some of those are new to me. Great gallery.

Thanks Murph...new to me are the beige turtleneck series and the cranberry wooly-pully. What a compilation!!LOL. I bet lots were pinched from other websites;-)

Actually, I feel like doing something very audacious. *evil laugh*

(Karen), Actually, I feel like doing something very audacious. *evil laugh* Ahem, well? Taps foot, points red fingernail, we are waiting. ;-)

Go ahead, Boss, do it.:-) Meanwhile, guess which oni has the twin!

Er, guess which "Toni" that is . . . am dating myself. . . .

Thanks for the pic link Murph. New or old a delight to the eye and heart. HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE. THANK YOU KAREN FOR A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL 2002

(Karen)Actually, I feel like doing something very audacious. *evil laugh* Well? Come on, lets have it. I can use an evil laugh...even if it is Christmas Eve.

Happy Holidays Everyone. Another Great Year Boss. Thanks so Much.

A person named Anne posted this on the Tea Room board this evening. Evidently, they showed Colin in Crown Court. I wonder if it was just a pic or a clip. Colin Firth as a policeman! A program on BBC1 at present called "Before they were famous" shows Colin Firth as a policeman.

Regarding the twin pictures�.hmmmm. I wondered what that photo of �Wham� was doing in there! ;-) (Wake me up before you go-go�.)

According to Anne at the Tea Room, they did show a short clip of Colin from Crown Court. Did anyone else in the UK see this program hosted by Angus Deayton?

I'm bringing you up to date by copying and pasting the following from our old server. Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 904 of 936: Mari (mari) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (00:54) 22 lines Anybody home here? Two items: WAGW has been rated PG (no big surprise) and I just saw this one at google: Friday December 27, 11:14 am ET DALLAS, Dec. 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- "XXX" star Vin Diesel and Star Wars' Natalie Portman were voted America's favorite fantasy New Year's Eve dates in an online survey conducted Dec. 4-17 at blockbuster.com. Fans will get their wish to ring in the New Year with Diesel with the New Year's Eve release of "XXX" on DVD and VHS home video at Blockbuster stores across the country. Who's Your Fantasy (Male) New Year's Eve Date? Vin Diesel 34 % Colin Firth 26 John Corbett 13 Eminem 12 Leonardo DiCaprio 8 Ralph Fiennes 6 Who's Your Fantasy (Female) New Year's Eve Date? Natalie Portman 25 % Halle Berry 21 Naomi Watts 18 Reese Witherspoon 13 Nicole Kidman 12 Jennifer Lopez 10 Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 905 of 936: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (05:15) 1 lines I would think some of the stars of Lord of the Rings would attract the female mind but I dont' see them on this list. Eminem? Wow, Firth was narrowly edged out, with another high profile movie he'd surely top the list. Natalie Portman would make a great New Year's Eve date, I'm surprised Nicole Kidman didn't score higher. Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 906 of 936: Barb S (BarbS) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (10:13) 1 lines Regarding New Year's Eve date thing, I *certainly* understand ODB rating so highly -- and am pleased for the recognition for him -- but the absence of the v. big names makes the list suspect to me. No Pitt, Cruise, Gibson, Ford or Brosnan? I wonder about the "scientific accuracy" of the poll (yeah, right.) I cannot imagine, however, that there was any ballot box stuffing going on, I have never voted more than once for ODB for anything! (insert wide-eyed innocent winkie) Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 907 of 936: Evelyn (lafn) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (12:25) 3 lines LOL at the NY Eve dates.Vin Diesel the winner? *snort* Like Barb, Love the timely pic, Boss. He looks great with any hat....especially sporting the Blue Soup Smile. Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 908 of 936: kathleen (townranny) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (14:14) 14 lines What a great way to ring in the New Year Karen! Thanks for the great photo complete w/lampshade. Very cute. Mari - Toni twins Those look like elementary school photos. No wonder he was playing teenagers at twenty three. A certain endearing awkwardness, No? Two follow up questions: Have we heard anything from HOLALOLA about some news she had for us and did we hear from CFs body double? Not pestering, just wanted everyone to know someone AKA me was still interested. I'm sorry cannot come up w/any resolutions as far as CF is concerned. Watch his movies less. Yeah, right!!!!! Happy New Year Everyone!!!!!!!!! Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 909 of 936: Karen (KarenR) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (14:58) 2 lines (Kathleen) and did we hear from CFs body double? Well, *we* got an email about a week ago, from my person, saying that he had been pestering the double to clean out his Hotmail account so that the questions could be forwarded and this finally happened. Otherwise, nothing new on that front. ;-) Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 910 of 936: FanPam (FanPam) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (15:15) 8 lines (Barb) No Pitt, Cruise, Gibson, Ford or Brosnan? I wonder about the "scientific accuracy" of the poll (yeah, right.) I agree. Think however CF should have been first as don't have any attraction to Vin Diesel. I don't think there's even a comparison. But no Brosnan? Highly suspect. Great New Year's treat Karen. Thank you. I'd like to play with his balloons. HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!! Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 911 of 936: KathyF (kathness) Mon, Dec 30, 2002 (21:22) 3 lines (Pam) I'd like to play with his balloons. You are absolutely incorrigible! Luckily, I'm incorrigible, too! Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 912 of 936: Lizza (Lizzajaneway) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (06:43) 12 lines Missed the "Before they were famous " thing. Did anyone else here see Ealing and Jane Austen yesterday. Obviously not enough ODB in Forever Ealing, but more than Rupie;-)) Plenty of P& p clips thou' in a very interesting programme, which probably didn't throw up anything new for Austen devotees, but was well put together. (Pam, KathyF) Count me in at the balloon party, fun inflatables to see in the New Year I think ;-)) HAPPY NEW YEAR ONE AND ALL Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 913 of 936: Karen (KarenR) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (10:13) 3 lines We've laughed about it before, but here it is in black and white, so to speak: ;-) http://www.insidevc.com/vcs/mo/article/0,1375,VCS_167_1640135,00.html Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 914 of 936: Evelyn (lafn) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (10:40) 2 lines ROTF, Karen. Hey..we take fans in any shape or form;-) (Don't like the freebee stuff, though) Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 915 of 936: LisaJH (LisaJH) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (11:29) 3 lines Karen, that is too funny! Love the lecture about the "senior moments." Where do you find this stuff? Happy, Healthy New Year All. Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 916 of 936: Mary Murphy (Brown32) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (11:56) 3 lines I hesitate to do this, since I am not a fan of those on-line polls, but Hello Magazine has put up the year's most attractive men - Colin included: http://services.hellomagazine.com/polls/special_polls2002/index.html?pantalla=hombreatractivo Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 917 of 936: Moon Dreams (Moon) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (12:00) 1 lines Felice Anno Nuovo! Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 918 of 936: Moon Dreams (Moon) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (12:05) 3 lines I voted and it came back "sorry you can not vote twice in a row"! LOL! I guess you should enter through Hello and not Murph's link. Who is Alex Sibley? Such a cutie! Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 919 of 936: Evelyn (lafn) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (12:58) 8 lines My vote went through Murph's link ...of course I only voted once;-) Who is Alex Sibley? I only rcognized six of them!! Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 920 of 936: Lizza (Lizzajaneway) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (13:57) 8 lines I believe Alex Sibley is from Big Brother, a male model too ?? This Summer I worked with a guy who shared a place with him in Sydney, not such a cutie if you have to live with him;-) Sounds like one of LD's lines again. Thanks for the links Murph and Karen. Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 921 of 936: kathleen (townranny) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (14:12) 5 lines RE: insidevc link OMG Karen, Am splitting a side here. You have saved the best for last of the year! Someone please bookmark that site for future.We can all have our senior moments Moorpark/Simi Valley Senior Center together! "What's that young good looking man's name?" That's Colin Firth Kathleen. "My he's good looking!!!" - we could fall in love all over again every day! We could tell googie jokes in the Komedy Klub, and fight over which CF movie to watch at the Cinema Theater at 12:45 every day (right after nap time), As members of the Covenant Players we could dress up in theatrical attire as P&P characters (I won't be Mary however), then there's Netherfield line dancing w/walkers, writing for pleasure fan-fic workshop (Darcy put in his teeth before he got into bed she knew it would be a big night) , Bingo and balls of yarn made into pretty gifts! Why wait! Let's go now! Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 922 of 936: MariaT (poostophles) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (14:25) 3 lines Kathleen!!! ROTFLMAO!! Work is busy today so only skimmed Karen's article, now I have reread it and your vision of our future at Moorpark is hilarious! The fan-fic workshop...priceless....Happy New Year all!! Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 923 of 936: Rika (Rika) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (15:35) 3 lines Love it, Kathleen! Could I reserve a place now to use when I need it in the future? Or, on second thought, you're right - why wait? Happy New Year everybody! Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 924 of 936: KathyF (kathness) Tue, Dec 31, 2002 (17:04) 3 lines (Kathleen) there's Netherfield line dancing w/walkers, writing for pleasure fan-fic workshop (Darcy put in his teeth before he got into bed she knew it would be a big night) Too funny! I think you should apply today as Activities Director of Moorpark. Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 925 of 936: FanPam (FanPam) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (00:30) 4 lines How funny is this. Atleast it's still playing. I'm with you girls - why wait. Great stuff ladies. Happy New Year everyone!! Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 926 of 936: Annette (anjo) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (06:27) 5 lines Charming link, Karen. Please reserve a room for me! A little news - or maybe not- on the LEdvd. I saw from a danish fansite for ODB, that the dvd was in fact R0 though the cover stated R1. I rushed to mail Janet, who I knew had just bought it, and she checked it out. It works on R2-players. So - for those of you, who can only use R2, heres your chance for getting the dvd. I myself can afford it right now, so if you empty the stores after this posting, I hope you'll let me borrow one from you (just kidding - I'm not quite sure, how to make winkies yet ;)D or whatever). Happy New Year everyone!!!!! Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 927 of 936: Karen (KarenR) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (11:14) 3 lines LOL, Kathleen! Have you ever thought of becoming an activities director? You have the imagination. I've already made my reservation for the paratransit service. I want to be there next time they test out one of Colin's new films. I hear that's where they do focus groups. Someone needs to put "show more skin" on the response cards. ;-) Thanks for the LE DVD update, Annette. Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 928 of 936: Mary Murphy (Brown32) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (12:00) 3 lines ...and fight over which CF movie to watch at the Cinema Theater at 12:45 every day (right after nap time) Hey, I'm old enough to be a member! If they really do the line dancing, I'm signing up! Thanks for some fun, Kathleen Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 929 of 936: Mary Murphy (Brown32) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (12:07) 3 lines Let's start off the New Year right! A BIG thanks to Karen for keeping us in line and for giving us the best updated news on Colin Firth anywhere! Here's a calendar to help people like me with short memories: Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 930 of 936: lindak (lindak) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (16:44) 10 lines (Kathleen)(Darcy put in his teeth before he got into bed she knew it would be a big night) Oh, couldn't you just imagine it? ROTFLOL. Yep, I tried to vote twice and got caught, too. (Moon)I guess you should enter through Hello and not Murph's link. Great suggestion, off now to try;-) Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 931 of 936: Janet (janet2) Wed, Jan 1, 2003 (19:41) 3 lines Re LE DVD Further to Annette's post. I have checked the cover of my DVD and there is no Region stated, as is the norm. I'm going to email Amazon.com, where I bought it, to ask them to update their records. It currently states that the DVD will play in USA and Canada only. It should play worldwide. Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 932 of 936: Karen (KarenR) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (11:48) 3 lines Yesterday, the NY Daily News included Love Actually in a listing of 2003 coming attractions that it feels are "most likely to draw crowds and charm critics in 2003 (dates could change)." Nothing about WAGW or HS. ;-) "Love Actually" (Nov. 7) - Hugh Grant in yet another charmer written by Richard Curtis ("Notting Hill," "Four Weddings and a Funeral," "Bridget Jones's Diary"). Colin Firth, Laura Linney, Liam Neeson, Alan Rickman and Emma Thompson co-star in this comedy about a British prime minister who falls in love on his first day in office. Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 933 of 936: Lisa (freddie) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (21:10) 7 lines Late again, as usual.... Who is Alex Sibley? Such a cutie! Oh yes, I might have voted for him if our AFG man wasn't in the running. Of course, I am not swayed by the superficiality of good looks alone. Was he a BB internee? Never watched it. Was it in America or in Australia? Karen, the link was excellent... Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 934 of 936: Mari (mari) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (21:31) 4 lines (Karen)the NY Daily News included Love Actually in a listing of 2003 coming attractions that it feels are "most likely to draw crowds and charm critics in 2003 (dates could change)." Nothing about WAGW or HS. ;-) Has anyone noticed that there tends to be an inverse relationship between the size of a film's profile and the size of Colin's role in it?:-( Oh well, LA should be a good one, I think, and Curtis's films always do well. Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 935 of 936: FanPam (FanPam) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (23:00) 5 lines Thanks for the great calendar pic Murph. Certainly does start the New Year off in a good way. Glad to see the NY Daily News is mentioning LA in such a positive way. IMO an ensemble production of heavy hitters such as this can only boost ones career. Hopefully the publicity will be heavy and actually in advance of release. How great would that be. Topic 165 of 172: 'Colin Firth - part 14' Resp 936 of 936: Rika (Rika) Thu, Jan 2, 2003 (23:32) 5 lines (Pam) Hopefully the publicity will be heavy and actually in advance of release. How great would that be. Yeah, but the Gnat will probably get the lion's share of the exposure, just as he has in the print articles so far. Viola! You are up to date! Terry

UK tv alert - Conspiracy is on BBC2 tonight at 9:10pm.

Can't vouch for the accuracy of this, but I found the following about Love Actually: Huge was paid $7.5 million, Colin got $6 million and Rowan Atkinson's two-scene cameo earned him $1.8 million. My, oh my, he's come way up in the world (if this is true). Imagine how much he'll be making for TEOR, in which he'll have a much more significant role and time commitment. Hauling down that kind of dough on mainstream fare should permit him to take interesting roles in serious films. You know, the kind I mean. ;-)

(Karen) You know, the kind I mean. ;-) I guess you mean lots more PG-rated, teen-focused rom-coms! ;-)

S***, that looks like a lot of $$$$$$$ in print! It would look like a lot sitting in the bank too. Is that about right for the Gnat? In an ensemble piece? Hauling down that kind of dough on mainstream fare should permit him to take interesting roles in serious films. Yes, peddled by close friends who just happen to have a screenplay handy. You know, the kind I mean. What about stage work too? I think I'd better take that trip up to Kakadu with the DH so I have some bargaining power when the time arises!

Huge was paid $7.5 million, Colin got $6 million Thanks, Karen, but it doesn't make sense. HG is a big star and is making only 1.5 mil more than CF? And his role in LA is bigger than Colin's. It only fits if HG was offered points. What is the total budget for LA? I imagine Emma Thomson will get a pretty penny too.

(Moon) I imagine Emma Thomson will get a pretty penny too. Why would you imagine that? (a) Very few women actresses command the $$$ the men do and (b) Emma may be good, but she has no tangible box office draw. If those numbers are right, it tells me that Colin's on the rise and is getting into a position where he can demand nearly what Huge gets. As far as size of the roles, we don't know that Huge's is significantly larger. They may be about the same, but Huge's mere presence in this movie lifts out of the ordinary.

6 Million ??? Sounds like the whole budget for GWAPE.

Wow! $6 mill is a pretty fair chunk of change!! (But did he get all his suits custom tailored like Huge did for TWN???) If that dollar amount is correct, he has definitely now done enough of 'for the dough' stuff!

Only a 20% or so differential between Huge and Firth? No way. HG can "open" films worldwide.

(Karen)If those numbers are right, it tells me that Colin's on the rise and is getting into a position where he can demand nearly what Huge gets. If Colin is indeed getting this kind of money for LA, maybe the powers that be will also allow him to carry TEoR along with RZ without expanding HG's role significantly. After all, it was HG who said that doing a sequel to BJD would be like putting on a wet bathing suit.

I really hope Colin is getting that kind of income. He deserves it and its time he wrote his own ticket, IMO. (Linda) If Colin is indeed getting this kind of money for LA, maybe the powers that be will also allow him to carry TEoR along with RZ... Wouldn't that be the perfect scenario. One can only hope.

(FanPam) I really hope Colin is getting that kind of income. He deserves it and its time he wrote his own ticket, IMO. I hope this is true as well...for ODB and his family! Would love to see him getting the kind of cash that Huge gets for a film. (lindak) If Colin is indeed getting this kind of money for LA, maybe the powers that be will also allow him to carry TEoR along with RZ... RZ is such a big draw now that HG may not even be missed in TEoR. He could do a nice cameo (I hear that there is an interview scene that is open....). ;-)

(Mari) Only a 20% or so differential between Huge and Firth? No way. HG can "open" films worldwide. That was my thought,too. I find Moon's idea plausible. If that's really what Colin is getting. Plus, while I know women's salaries aren't on parity with the men's, it would seem odd that Emma would get second billing (as she seems to be in many articles I've read), and get less than either. And I don't think she has opening power either.

(Leona)But did he get all his suits custom tailored like Huge did for TWN??? CF did for TIOBE, even if it was because Rupe insisted on it ;-)! And if CF is getting 6 million for LA, that could put him on a path to other lucrative, high billing parts :-)!

And if CF is getting 6 million for LA, that could put him on a path to other lucrative, high billing parts :-)! More likely, he'd take several years off, and we'd never see him again.;-) According to the imdb, the LA budget comes to about $50 million. Not chump change, but they've got a lot of people to spread it around to. Plus location shoots, and all the other many expenses.

(Mari) More likely, he'd take several years off, and we'd never see him again.;-) LOL! Sad but true. Just because the info I posted didn't say what else Huge might be getting, doesn't mean the base salaries aren't right. It only means the info wasn't disclosed, similar to size of trailer, etc. ;-) Plus location shoots, and all the other many expenses. As far as we know, only Colin had to go "on location." Perhaps he got the equivalent of hazardous duty pay because he had to go to France. *big winkie*

Perhaps he got the equivalent of hazardous duty pay because he had to go to France. *big winkie* Hee hee. Hey, they did have mega floods over there at the time of the shoot. Ask Anthony Minghella how much he saved by shooting Cold Mountain in Romania.;-) All his sets were washed away. And didn't LA have a scene shot in Africa? Anyway, my only point was that film expenses go far beyond salaries.

(Karen)Perhaps he got the equivalent of hazardous duty pay because he had to go to France. *big winkie* LOL. Well he was photographed in France with all of those scratches on his arm. Maybe red fingernails?

Read it and weep. http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808457289

I'm weeping. Not five minutes after the high I got from Colin's salary news, now this.*sniffing, eyes red and swollen* Sheesh, thanks, Mari, for the link...I think;-(

It's ironic and sad that this "history" is highlighted in an article about a movie that he's not even in anymore, yet when he appears in major movies in well acted supporting roles he's relegated to the sidelines as in TEP and SIL. I hope his refusing to do the screen test doesn't follow him around during the movie's production and reviews. I was surprised it was included still. That'll teach LD for getting too involved ;-);-). Thanks for the link, Mari.

Really makes YKW look like a jerk, doesn't it? :-( Oh well, many actors have such things in their past, roles they've turned down that went on to become huge, award-winners for someone else. More production details up for GWAPE, but there's another interesting reunion. David Morrissey is playing van Leeuwenhoek ("and I feel bad because he's in so much pain")

They were shooting at Cambridge before Christmas(stopping traffic!) Ted and Sylvia's college years , supposedly. No amount of make-up would make him look like a college student. He probably saw a rejection in the wings. (OK...I'm being kind...) I hope David Morrissey's Dutch accent is better than his American one.

(Evelyn) I hope David Morrissey's Dutch accent is better than his American one. Wot?! You didn't know van Leeuwenhoek spent his formative years in Liverpool? ;-)

Thanks, Mari! As for the role of Ted Hughes, the big news there is that the actor who was long considered a shoo-in for the part, Colin Firth (Valmont, Bridget Jones' Diary), was ruled out when he refused to do an audition. This opened the proverbial door for Daniel Craig, who is still very much a relative unknown Haven't I been complaining about this? I guess this should be considered by the non-believers as proof positive.

We talked about this back when it was first reported.... but if he was genuinely a shoo-in, why would they have asked for an audition? Something doesn't add up.

(Rika) but if he was genuinely a shoo-in, why would they have asked for an audition? Something doesn't add up. Have you forgotten, this project also had a change in directors? Colin may have been considered a shoe-in with the first, but the second may have had other ideas.

(Evelyn) No amount of make-up would make him look like a college student. He probably saw a rejection in the wings. (OK...I'm being kind...) I applaud your effort, though. ;-) Thanks, Mari for bringing that happy tidbit up. ;-) As for the role of Ted Hughes, the big news there is that the actor who was long considered a shoo-in for the part, Colin Firth (Valmont, Bridget Jones' Diary), was ruled out when he refused to do an audition. (Moon) Haven't I been complaining about this? I guess this should be considered by the non-believers as proof positive. Remember the ventriloquist/puppet scene in Chicago? If it is so, he may/possibly should be kicking himself now. Guess it depends on his (and LD's?) priorities.

I guess I wouldn't consider anything written on an Internet website as "proof positive" of anything. Where do you think Greg (Mr Preview Man) gets his material? He reads the same rumors as we do. ;-) Why he chose to devote so much of his page to that aspect of the casting, I'll never know.

(Dorine), If it is so, he may/possibly should be kicking himself now. I always thought he would do a great screentest. The big miss was Armadillo, IMO.

He was too old for Lorimer too.... Stephen Rea stole the show and they changed the ending.

I thought he was perfect for Lorimer. Couldn't picture anyone else even as I read the book. I didn't like the change at the end and do agree the SR was great.

Gee, Mari, what a hornet�s nest you stirred up with that link. ;-) To add my two cents worth, why would ODB refuse to audition? If indeed it is true, that�s the one thing I can�t understand, as he doesn�t seem to have the ego problem. Is it considered such an insult? Well, I will be happy when his teen rom-com phase is over. As I told Karen, my biggest fear is that CF might become the Dean Jones of Generation Y. Gaaaaaaaaah! (Evelyn)Stephen Rea stole the show I thought he was great, too. Colin really missed out.

(Lisa JH)To add my two cents worth, why would ODB refuse to audition? As I said earlier, I know nothing! But didn't he state in an interview around ATA, that he would gladly have went to the US to do a screentest for a movie, but that he got this one because he happened to be in LA at the time? If that was the case, why would he have refused to do a screentest as Ted Hughes? Perhaps he just didn't want to be in that movie anymore for whatever reason?

Well, you can put me squarely in the camp that has no trouble believing that Colin could command 80% of the salary HG got for LA. If you compare their numbers on movies, as is done on the "" site, you can see that Colin's films average $36,372,532 in gross box office take, while HG's only average $29,511,318. http://www.the-numbers.com/people/CFIRT.html http://www.the-numbers.com/people/HGRAN.html Apparently "A A Boy" didn't do nearly as well in the US as BJD and box office takes for "Mickey B Eyes" & "Small Time Crooks" were dismal...

Grrrrr... meant to fill in the name of that site! That would be "The Numbers" website...

Thanks, another site I never saw before! **cough cough** Take a look at the US earnings for MLSF.......:(

That's interesting about the US take for TIOBE. I thought I had seen on Box Office Mojo or something that it took in just over 10 million, or maybe a tad under. Oh well, what's a couple of million dollars more or less in the scheme of things. :-)

Thanks for posting the site, Jane. I can remember having seen it before; however, this is where being a "numbers" person has its advantages. First off, those numbers seem rather inadequate, especially the intl ones. Nonetheless, if I were using those to make any assessment, I'd have to adjust them to exclude films in which Colin was merely a supporting player. This would bring his per screen average down considerably. I'd also dump the history as this is no gauge of the present box office draw. Doing a more "apples to apples" comparison, Colin's average is $20,156,000 to Hugh's $46,148,000 (and it's far worse when you stop at Notting Hill). Realistically, I don't think anyone would consider SIL or TEP's gross when assessing Colin's box office draw.

And thank God SLOW and L'dumb didn't open in the US. FP is bad enough. The film I was holding out for was "Beyond Borders". But Cambodia isn't on the Victoria line.

(Evelyn) The film I was holding out for was "Beyond Borders". Yeah, but it looks like that one has major problems too. Early internet buzz says "bow wow." :-(

(Lisa JH)To add my two cents worth, why would ODB refuse to audition? I have to add my two-cents worth as well. I stewed about the Ted Hughes article all day yesterday, and remembering what Karen said about the change in directors helped me form the opinion that I don't blame him for not doing the audition. No, I'm not of the Church of ST. Colin, I was very angry at the time that he did not fight for this role. I hate the fact that he doesn't seem to have the stomach to go after the big stuff. But if his name was associated with this project for four years as was GP's, then all of a sudden a new director comes in and begins throwing around names like RC...Imagine the humiliation, then, if CF had done the screen test and was rejected. Does that mean that he won't ever do a screen test? I don't think that's the case. But for this particular project, I think he saw the writing on the wall. All of this IMHO, of course.

(Linda) But if his name was associated with this project for four years as was GP's, then all of a sudden a new director comes in and begins throwing around names like RC...Imagine the humiliation, then, if CF had done the screen test and was rejected. Does that mean that he won't ever do a screen test? I don't think that's the case. But for this particular project, I think he saw the writing on the wall. Very good observation and IMO I agree with you. IMO he has no ego problem and I'm sure would not refuse to screentest if things were as he wanted. Must have been other factors of which we are not aware.

(Fanpam)I'm sure would not refuse to screentest if things were as he wanted. If things were as he wanted, he wouldn't have *needed* a screen test. (Linda)Imagine the humiliation, then, if CF had done the screen test and was rejected. Happens all the time. Even A- list actors audition and get rejected.

(FanPam) Very good observation and IMO I agree with you. IMO he has no ego problem and I'm sure would not refuse to screentest if things were as he wanted. I am with you..Something does'nt add up, I am going with the Occam's Razor theory on this one... and to me the simple explanation is that someone else was in the wrong and ODB had the freedom to say no...

Linda, don't fret. You and I are going to put the malocchio on Ted & Sylvia anyway, so what does it matter?;-)

(Maria) I am going with the Occam's Razor theory on this one... and to me the simple explanation is that someone else was in the wrong and ODB had the freedom to say no... William's principle only holds for the last part, i.e., that he had the freedom to say no or that he "did" say no, even simpler for the reasons stated. The first part (someone else was in the wrong) comes from the Ostrich School of Logic, part of St Colin University. ;-0

malocchio? Don't need to much of my Roman and Greek derivatives class still hanging around to know to do the stop, drop and roll to avoid the evil eye! Remind me not to cross you!

The first part (someone else was in the wrong) comes from the Ostrich School of Logic, part of St Colin University. Very good! I see you've been to Africa Karen, or at least the local zoo! The Department of Fingernail Studies, offering advanced course study in both Persuasive Shades of Red and Tapping to Meet your Goals is housed right next door, in the Medicore Media Building. Mounted by the entrance is a brass marker that reads: The Medicore Media Building was commissioned with the generous support of Mr. Michael Binder. I dedicate to all those who have a dream. May you achieve yours as I have mine. Michael Binder, Eqs. Director, Screenwriter, Actor Septemeber, 1999

(Mari)Linda, don't fret. You and I are going to put the malocchio on Ted & Sylvia anyway, so what does it matter?;-) LOL. Already been done. Forgetaboutit;-)

(Evelyn)Happens all the time. Even A- list actors audition and get rejected. Agreed, and under regular circumstances it may not have mattered to him, but in this case, if his name had been associated with the project for a long period of time, and then the rejection...I'm with him.

I don't wish to belabor the point...however, he wasn't blantantly rejected for the role...he just elected not to audition. And of course we don't know if there was an initial committment or merely he was associated with the role. LOL.But perhaps it's just as well....Mari has already put a jinx on it;-)

Not to interrupt the debate for something totally frivolous, but...... Today I found a site that has much higher-resolution versions of the WAGW trailer than I've seen before. I viewed the high-resolution QuickTime version; the image was still fairly clear when enlarged to fill a 15-inch monitor. It's about 15 megabytes, so you need a high-speed connection. Here's a link to the place where you can get versions of the trailer for RealPlayer, Windows Media Player, and QuickTime in a variety of resolutions: http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/w/whatagirlwants.php When I slowed down the black leather pants scene, at times I thought I saw an earring flashing in his left ear, but I'm not certain. I can, though, confirm other "left-sidedness."

LOL, we're doing that eerie thing again. Found that last night. Hadn't watched the trailer in a while. Having leather withdrawal. ;-)

(Karen) The first part (someone else was in the wrong) comes from the Ostrich School of Logic, part of St Colin University. You got me!! I am working on my doctorate at this fine institution.;)

A ha! The reason! ;-)))))))))))) Just read that the Evil-Eyed Movie has a two-week shoot in New Zealand and in a small rowboat 1.5 meters off the south island's coast. Rough waters evidently. http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_737422.html?menu= Two weeks, that far away.... I don't think so.

LOL, Karen. The NY Post reported the other day about the production moving to NZ for 2 weeks, which is where the new director is from; nothing about a rickety boat, though.;-) Lots od media attention on this one. Oh well, am sure GWAPE will attract similar.;-) (Linda)Already been done. Forgetaboutit;-) See, the Jersey girls are on top of things. Psst, Linda, how do you say "double double, toil and trouble" in Italian? I'm a bit rusty.;-) Pam, do you want in on this? We could use a third for cauldron stirring.;-) Am off to ShopRite--they a twofer this week on eye of newt and toe of frog.:-)

nothing about a rickety boat, though.;-) Small little pond at a local country club or the tank at Ealing are about as far as he'd go. ;-)

Pfft! Gee, boss, am surprised you didn't report the *other* big news of the ananova day: something about a boy wizard, a serious role and an old man.;-) ;-)

Yeah, I guess I should've, especially as it would put an end to all the baseless speculation.

Nice one, Mari! ;-) (Karen) Small little pond at a local country club or the tank at Ealing are about as far as he'd go. ;-) Luxembourg isn't in his back yard really. The neighbor's back yard maybe. ;-) And Mari and Linda, I'm definitely stayin' on your good sides. You two work fast! :-)

(Barb)Remind me not to cross you! (Dorine)You two work fast! :-) (ananova)She and leading man Daniel Craig braved swells of up to 1.5 metres to film scenes for Ted and Sylvia, just off the coast of New Zealand's South Island. The rough surf reportedly unsettled the actress, and she declined autograph requests on her return for lunch, saying she was sick, Does anyone think this is an accident? MMMWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

So, is T&S now TEEM? ;) (Mari) Linda, don't fret. You and I are going to put the malocchio on Ted & Sylvia anyway, so what does it matter?;-) LOL! Okay, I must be sharing a brain with you two today; I'd already sent some nastiness to the aforementioned TEEM by the time I read this. We gotta be careful, though; we don't want to drown poor Gwynnie :P (LisaJH) my biggest fear is that CF might become the Dean Jones of Generation Y. Gaaaaaaaaah! LA LA LA LA LA I'm not listening to you I'm not listening to you I'm not listening to you :)

(Mari)Does anyone think this is an accident? MMMWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! LOL, only the non-believers;-)

(Mari) Pam, do you want in on this? We could use a third for cauldron stirring.;-) Broom is all fired up and ready to go. Perhaps we can do it inbetween snow storms. (Mari) Does anyone think this is an accident? MMMWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! Save some of the fun for me sisters.

Attention Region 2ers!! Evidently, the DVD of Another Country has been around since Oct 2000. There was a version released in Spain, which is in English, with Castilian subtitles, which you should be able to turn off. It sells for 19 Euros and you can buy it here: http://cine.elcorteingles.es/productos/producto/producto.asp?cod_referencia=25940900332

Thank you Karen, unfortunately, I just chose AC over FF ordering videos from Canada - just my luck. But I won't fret. I think it's lovely news, and it should provide opportunities for those, who use multiplayer dvds or computers (I hope, you pay attention Janet, Nita and DVDIva Rika!)

You're welcome. I do my best to see that Firthettes worldwide get some "value" from Drool and come forward to support us during fund-raising drives.

REMINDER The discussion of Donovan Quick begins on Monday, Jan 13, on Topic 158

Here you go: But does anyone have a clue as to who this is? Weird that he'd be featured in a publicity shot.

Thanks for the pics, Mari. Think I got that large tag eliminated. :-( Hopefully....

Not to get way off topic, but can you play any region DVD in your PC's DVD drive? How did I miss that interesting tidbit? ;-)

I've never actually had a non-US DVD to try, but my DVD player software says that it can.

From Jeffrey Well's column from PoopShoot.com on the upcoming year's films: "...If Hugh Grant performs in one more movie like LOVE ACTUALLY, or plays that same fey British asshole again, there's going to be trouble. That said, this British response to Rob Reiner's THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT was fairly satisfying on its own terms." http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/elsewhere/index.html

(Moon)from Poop-Poop website: "...If Hugh Grant performs in one more movie like LOVE ACTUALLY, or plays that same fey British asshole again, there's going to be trouble." Why not? Everybody else is into cookie-cutter roles;-) And "About A Boy" was not in that genre anyway.

Sorry...not Moon...mean't Murph!!

(Karen), But does anyone have a clue as to who this is? That looks like Laura Linley(sp?). It must be from LA. The "To Me You are Perfect" sign will surely make its way to our birthday parties. ;-)))

Thanks for the link, Murph. Leave it to Jeff Wells to have the chutzpah to write "reviews" on the 2003 movies. Then agian, he's probably making an interesting statement on the predictability of it all. I caught his column yesterday on Daniel Day Lewis--man, he ripped him a new one. It was actually refreshing to read something other than the usual fawning and omigod how have we survived the past 5 years without you crap. Yes, Moon, it's LA but Karen was referring to the second pic--the person carrying the sign.

(Moon) The "To Me You are Perfect" sign will surely make its way to our birthday parties. ;-))) As in "I like you just the way you are"? Am reordering my insulin... ;-) Best to use them sparingly.

(Mari) I caught his column yesterday on Daniel Day Lewis--man, he ripped him a new one. It was actually refreshing to read something other than the usual fawning and omigod how have we survived the past 5 years without you crap. LOL! I don't recognize Sign Man either, but think he's a cutie. Thanks for the pics.

I don't recognize Sign Man either, but think he's a cutie. Sign man looks like CF to me.

Karen (and Annette) Thanks for the info re DVD of AC. Unfortunately, Spanish is a language of which I know nothing, so I can't work out how to finalise my purchase after I add it to my shopping basket! Can anyone have a look and help me out? Please!!!

(mari/karen)the person carrying the sign. It's definitely not CF. I think it's the British love interest of Amanda B.'s that she meets in London. I seem to remember in the trailor the young love interest saying something to her (AB) about not trying to be what she's not (i.e all proper, noble, and mannerly) just to fit into this new upper class environment. Plus the girl in the photo looks like the back of AB - long straight hair, etc. So the "To me, you are perfect" sign would make sense in that context. Reminds me (sort of) a mini-BJD...good thing CF is around on the set to give "just as you are" lessons ;-).

Moon, you are dfinitely right that the first pic is CF and Laura Linney (sp?). Does she play his "wants out of this marriage" wife? Thanks for the pics, Mari and Karen. Is that Herb Albert and the Tiajuana Brass behind them? ;-)

Okay, right, forget about my #992 post, I must have suddenly morphed into a completely different movie mindset... If the second photo is from LA and not WAGW, I have no idea who the cue card guy is.:-/

Just a suggestion - could the Signman be the "lucky one" to get the remark from ODB's girlfriend to hurry up before old pencil...... gets home?

(Dorine)I don't recognize Sign Man either, but think he's a cutie. (Moon)Sign man looks like CF to me. Yes and Yes Hey Boss, if we guess correctly do we get a prize? Please no more kewpie dolls or sphagnum moss gift sets, ok?:-)

HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone!! Only have a quick second but it looks like Love Actually will be released in the UK November 21, 2003. US date is still Nov. 7th. More info on this and Edge of Reason on my next visit. Hope all is well! Hugz

(Dorine)I don't recognize Sign Man either, but think he's a cutie. (Moon)Sign man looks like CF to me. (Linda) Yes and Yes What are you the original fence-sitter? ;-) Well, the lady who can answer that question just posted. if we guess correctly do we get a prize? Please no more kewpie dolls or sphagnum moss gift sets, ok?:-) No, this time the prize the winner will be *TA DAH!!!* a big steaming pot (?) of haggis in honor of our upcoming film discussion. Hey, you brought it up. ;-)

(Dorine)I don't recognize Sign Man either, but think he's a cutie. (Moon)Sign man looks like CF to me. (Linda) Yes and Yes I don't think he looks remotely like CF. Well, Mrs. Hola Lola? (Karen) No, this time the prize the winner will be *TA DAH!!!* a big steaming pot (?) of haggis in honor of our upcoming film discussion. Boy, talk about an incentive to lose.

BTW, Hola Lola....Congratulations are in order,I believe, and Happy New Year! Thanks for all your tidbits. :-)

In the Masterpiece Theatre alumni section, Colin got quite a bit of space, especially when his MT credits only include TTOT's memorable first 10 minutes. ;-) The soon to be released ensemble comedy Love Actually tells ten separate but intertwining stories of love in London. One of the threads follows the brand new British Prime Minister (Hugh Grant, THE LAST PLACE ON EARTH, IMPROMPTU) who on his first day in 10 Downing Street falls in love with the girl who brings him his tea. Other stories feature Colin Firth (THE TURN OF THE SCREW), Alan Rickman (THERESE RAQUIN, THE BARCHESTER CHRONICLES), Keira Knightley (OLIVER TWIST, the upcoming ZHIVAGO) and Emma Thompson (MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING, IMPROMPTU, HENRY V). The title alludes to the line "love actually is all around" from the theme song to Four Weddings and a Funeral, written by Richard Curtis Bridget Jones's Diary), who is writing and directing this film. Colin Firth will also be costarring with Anna Chancellor (THE CAZALETS) in the upcoming What a Girl Wants, scheduled for release in March, the story of a young woman raised in New York by a feminist mother who decides to find her long-lost father in London. Busy Firth is currently in production on the film version of Tracy Chevalier's novel Girl with a Peal Earring in which he plays the artist Vermeer.

The man holding the sign is British actor Andrew Lincoln who became well known here a few years ago after appearing in the cult TV hit This Life. More recently he's starred in a series called Teachers. I think he plays the character Laura Linney leaves Colin for in LA.

Ah, then he's the same one in the pic on LA's Bucket page standing with LL and CF. Thanks, Barbara.

Thanks, Barbara. It does indeed look like Andrew Lincoln. Here's a page with some pics: http://lavender.fortunecity.com/fullmonty/482/andrew.htm (Dorine) Ah, then he's the same one in the pic on LA's Bucket page standing with LL and CF. *snort* Hardly! Looks like the photographer got the name wrong, which happens all the time. Off to fix the caption.

(Karen) Hardly! Looks like the photographer got the name wrong, which happens all the time LOL. It's funny, I didn't really think they looked too similar, but people can look very different in pics from different angles. Never seen him enough to discern.

Andrew's real name is Andrew Clutterbuck. A needed name change for an actor if there ever was one. :-)

(Doreen), A needed name change for an actor if there ever was one. :-) True! Not related to LA. But, he looks like he could be AB's brother. They have the same eyes. ;-)

(Karen) No, this time the prize the winner will be *TA DAH!!!* a big steaming pot (?) of haggis Oh, very funny. I like my oatmeal boiled in a pot, without the hearts and lungs, thank you. But, I lost anyway, so there;-) Hmmm, maybe that's Clive's problem, too much haggis.

Thanks for the info Karen and Barbara. Glad to know MPT views him as "Busy Firth". Good press IMO.

You know I'm kinda glad WAGW isn't coming out imminently. I don't think I'd find the "What was your favorite group?....Please tell me it wasn't the Bee Gees" exchange as comical at this moment since Maurice Gibb died yesterday. :( He was actually my favorite Bee Gee.

Not sure why the Scottish Sunday Mail thought Minnie Driver's purchase of a new house terribly newsworthy, but there's a mention of Colin at the end: Minnie, who is developing her own comedy series for US TV, will be seen next with Colin Firth in the romantic movie Spring Hopes. Maybe they've CGI'd all the leaves green now. ;-)

Spring Hopes? Change of title? Could that be the reason they've held it up so long? ;-)

(Moon) Spring Hopes? Change of title? Could that be the reason they've held it up so long? ;-) Hmmm, reminds me of a poem about Spring (plus a few changes): Hopes have Sprung, The grass has riz', I wonder where the movie is?

will be seen next with Colin Firth in the romantic movie Spring Hopes. (Karen)Maybe they've CGI'd all the leaves green now. ;-) ROTF! More deus ex machina--wonder what Charlie and Donald Kaufman would make of it?;-) ;-)

Plus, who knows how many flowers had to be swapped out. Must be hell taking out all the mums and putting in tulips, iri and daffodils. Expect will have special effects credits now to rival a Star Wars flick. ;-) Before anyone starts anything, I'm sure they've just gotten the title all backward.

From Screen Daily - Brief mention of GWAPE: The rise, fall and rise again of UK tax production funds Even as the UK's tax production funds are failing to attract enough investors to match their lofty ambitions, a new breed of internationally-oriented schemes are starting to emerge. While funds such as Monument, which set out to provide 50% of budgets, have failed to materialise, tax specialists predict the growth of a middle ground with funds such as Fusion and Microfusion, the latest vehicles from Future Filmgroup chief Tim Levy. Levy, a veteran of the UK tax financing sector, aims for the funds to offer producers up to 35% of budgets, far higher than the 13% accessed via standard sale and leaseback deals. But he wants to attract investors by keeping their risk significantly lower than more aggressive production funds, most of which have fallen far short of their investment targets. "It was just wrong-headed to conclude that investors who had happily taken a no risk deferral under the sale and leaseback schemes would happily take on risk," he said. "There is a middle ground opening up," says Martin Churchill, editor of investment journal the Tax Efficient Review. "There is some form of production financing but there is some floor to stop any sliding back for investors and there is a limited upside. I expect to see more of these funds." Another recently-launched production fund, Ingenious' Inside Track, also offers 35% of budgets and is already bankrolling a trio of films with Pathe including Girl With A Pearl Earring. Given the current dearth in pre-sales, the film's producer Andy Paterson argues that such funds are crucial. "Pre-sales are non-existent," he said. "Without these equity funds at this time there would be no production." Funds are also pushing into the distribution sector. One leading tax financing figure is assembling a tax-driven p&a fund with a studio. Like the p&a fund, Levy's Fusion is aimed at US studio productions. Fusion aims to cover up to 35% of the direct cost of British qualifying films using UK tax-driven financing under section 42, which has no cap on budgets. Microfusion is a similar vehicle for independent films, offering producers up to 25% of budgets under sections 48 and section 42. In return, the schemes asks for up to 5% of first dollar grosses, increasing to 7.5% if films reach 250% of costs. Levy has not finalised a fund for his schemes yet; he aims to secure films first, then go to investors. The two deals also include a sale and leaseback arrangement, with each scheme accessing two partnerships of investors, one providing production money, the other a sale and leaseback deal. Although Levy is reluctant to reveal details to competitors, he insists that his schemes avoid falling foul of so-called double-dipping, a potential issue with the government if films use both a sale and leaseback deal and an up-front production deal. "Double dipping does not apply to our structure," Levy said. "We have found a different way of structuring it." Nevertheless, offering a timely reminder of the tax financing sector's risks, Levy confirmed that the Inland Revenue has just settled its three year inquiry into his earlier Voyager scheme. The scheme, which raised more than �200m in investment under the aegis of Levy's company Factor Eight, came under government scrutiny because investors could take a tax reduction and then sell on to a corporate entity with only a limited liability. While investors are understood to have taken a limited hit at worst from the recent settlement, those who stayed in the partnership are still dependent on how the scheme's 55 films perform. Levy said that none of the films, which include Grey Owl, The Luzhin Defence, The General and Simon Magus, "have done outstandingly well". "Some have done okay," he said. "8-10 might have repaid their loans, 8-10 have done nothing, and the rest are in between." As investors' liability is joint and several, if one partner does not pay any outstanding money to Levy's Factor Eight, another becomes liable. "We made it clear to partners that if they did not exit they might owe us a large sum of money," Levy said

I'm the king of the world!

Uh oh. Here comes the queen.;-)

Brilliant Mari!!! I was wondering if BV included Hope Springs in its 2003 Preview package and was going to give them a ring. Lovely how they say it will still be released in Spring 2003, so we can discount that *other* rumor. ;-)

OH, thank you, Mari. Makes me still hold out hope that we will see this soon.

Whoa...thanks Mari. I take it the first one is LA. Same black tee shirt, huh?? Thanks Murph. I think Ingenious Inside Track is v. brave to take on GWAPE as an investment.

Hmmm, the title page of the Preview Package only says "Coming Soon," when there are dates for quite a few others... Must investigate further

(Mari)I'm the king of the world! LOL, Mari!

This is in next issue of Ladies Home Journal: Thoroughly Feisty Fergie There is mention of CF in Royal Crush section: Q: Any celebrities who would fit the bill? They might be reading Ladies' Home Journal. A: Benjamin Bratt! I loved him in Miss Congeniality. Let's see, who else -- Colin Firth. He's a type -- rugged, masculine, full-blooded, all man. A steel hand in a velvet glove. But he's married, too. Here is the link: http://www.lhj.com/lhj/story.jhtml?storyid=/templatedata/lhj/story/data/thoroughlyfeistyfergie_12182002.xml&catref=S25&page=5

(Evelyn), Whoa...thanks Mari. I take it the first one is LA. That's from HS. Colin and Heather a top of the tower, remember? Thanks, Mari! Looking good!

(Evelyn), Whoa...thanks Mari. I take it the first one is LA. (Moon)That's from HS. Colin and Heather a top of the tower, remember? Don't worry, Evelyn, it is hard distinguishing "busy Colin's" many romcom's ;-), I did it just the other day myself. Now if they would all hurry up and get in our theaters already. Thanks for the beautiful pictures Mari! I hope it will be Spring at least when we see it!

Thanks, Mari! No towel scenes in that package, huh?

http://www.bvimovies.com/ More photos! Hurrah! Maybe they actually did make this movie. I was starting to wonder ;-)

First one on the BVI site is dishy.:-) I'd like to know why BVI can very efficiently get this up on its website--along with the UK release date--yet Touchstone has every film except this one on its site, and no release date for US/Canada.

(Moon)That's from HS. Colin and Heather a top of the tower, remember? ROTF.. *smacking head*I had it all figured out too...on the boat that we saw him in France!! Cute pics Brenda... ...but don't you think HG looks a tad y-o-u-n-g ?

(Evelyn)...but don't you think HG looks a tad y-o-u-n-g ? A tad and a half! I pretty much expect that from movies now, though. Mari, where did you find your photos? This must be a sign that more are a-comin'!

Ooooh! Lovely, Brenda. Thanks. FYI, that's the same UK release date we've had since about Oct, so looks like it might actually be a go. That corresponds to the Apr 4th date for the US.

(Dorine)Thanks, Mari! No towel scenes in that package, huh? LOL, my words exactly. Thank you Mari and Brenda

(Karen)That corresponds to the Apr 4th Isn't this also the new release date for WAGW?

Thanks for pix Mari & Brenda! V. nice! Isn't WAGW being released around same date? (End of March/Beginning of April) Or is date for HS still just a 'tentative'?

The cover sheet on the Touchstone press preview only showed Hope Springs as "Coming Soon." NO DATE, even though many other films had dates well into July+ WAGW is either Apr 4 or the week before. (Evelyn)...but don't you think HG looks a tad y-o-u-n-g ? Oh, gimme a break!! Colin looks like spring chicken compared to some of those tough old roosters they've paired with actresses of HG's age. ;-) They look fine together, even if she wasn't my first or second choice for the part. ;-)

(karen) They look fine together, even if she wasn't my first or second choice for the part. Or third, or fourth, or...... :)

(Brenda)Mari, where did you find your photos? This must be a sign that more are a-comin'! Looks like they're at a few sites now, but a good source is comingsoon.net. They have the pics there; just search by letter. I'll believe the April 4 date when the ad shows up in my paper on April 3.;-)

(Mari) I'll believe the April 4 date when the ad shows up in my paper on April 3.;-) *hee hee hee* Given the way the schedule was just passed out, it didn't appear to me that they've got an imminent release planned...or maybe they'll just sweep it under the rug...somewhere ;-)

Thanks for pics Mari. Do hope this makes it out.

Thought you might like to read our new "positioning paragraphs" for Love Actually. It will be on upcoming press releases and website. LOVE ACTUALLY Genre: Romantic Comedy Cast: Alan Rickman, Bill Nighy, Colin Firth, Emma Thompson, Hugh Grant, Laura Linney, Liam Neeson, Martine McCutcheon Directed by: Richard Curtis Writer: Richard Curtis Producers: Duncan Kenworthy, Tim Bevan, Eric Fellner Executive Producer: Richard Curtis Love Actually is not a new romantic comedy...it is 10 new romantic films in one. Set in contemporary London in the two months before Christmas, it weaves together a series of touching and hilarious stories, which end in not one, but lots and lots of romantic climaxes on Christmas Eve. Love Actually is short for "Love Actually Is All Around" and that is the argument of the film--that everywhere you look, love is the driving force in people's lives. From prime ministers to aging rock stars, from a stony headmistress to a monoligual Portuguese housemaid, the film looks at funny, sad and stupid sides of love in all shapes and sizes. Universal Pictures, Working Title Films and DNA Films present Love Actually, the directorial debut of celebrated screenwriter Richard Curtis (Four Weddings And A Funeral, Bridget Jones's Diary, Notting Hill) with a stellar ensemble cast including Hugh Grant, Academy Award winner Emma Thompson, Academy Award nominee Laura Linney, Liam Neeson, Colin Firth, Alan Rickman, Bill Nighy and Martine McCutheon. Written by Curtis, Love Actually is produced by Duncan Kenworthy, Tim Bevan and Eric Fellner.

Thanks for posting the pics, Mari; gorgeous!! HG is a bit on the young side (I think she's 30 to CF's 42), but I can think of much, much worse: Helen Hunt & Jack Nicholson, Michael Douglas & Gwyneth Paltrow, just off the top of my head. Thanks for posting the p.p., Lola. Any idea whent the website will be up?

Yummy Scrummy Mari, thanks. A smile to cut thro' the dullness of any Winter day. In fact he can always "Make our day." here at drool. Thanks for info Lola. Looks like we can look forward to plenty of publicity on this one. Not like some we could mention!

Here is the URL for Mari's pictures. http://www.comingsoon.net/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Comedy/Hope_Springs Thanks, Lola, for the news on LA. (Anything on any other pic?? Wink Wink)

Thanks Lola for the LA info.Sounds like a winner with that cast. FYI Liam Neeson is also an Academy Award Nominee...for Schindler's List in 1994 http://us.imdb.com/Sections/Awards/Academy_Awards_USA/1994

Thanks, Lola! Love Actually is short for "Love Actually Is All Around" and that is the argument of the film--that everywhere you look, love is the driving force in people's lives. Anyone else crack up? From prime ministers to aging rock stars, from a stony headmistress to a monoligual Portuguese housemaid, the film looks at funny, sad and stupid sides of love in all shapes and sizes. Well we know, HG is the prime minister, is CF the aging rock star? ;-)

Well we know, HG is the prime minister, is CF the aging rock star? ;-) LOL - but please, let it not be so. It would mix terribly with the leatherjeans clips from WAGW. We wouldn't want anybody to get those to movies mixed up, would we?

(moonstar)Helen Hunt & Jack Nicholson, Michael Douglas & Gwyneth Paltrow, just off the top of my head. Excellent list. I could never understand the poxy nonsense about his looking too old for HG. Maybe she acted a bit too young, but...sheesh. Thanks again, Mari and thank you Mary and Hola.

Guess who won the Most Attractive Man for 2002????? http://services.hellomagazine.com/polls/special_polls2002/results2002.html

Thank you Mary (or Murph is it?)! Wonderful news. I actually looked for it just 2 hours ago, and even mailed them for the result.

Does this mean that there will be a Hello article shortly?

New pic at the WAGW site (sm one, bare feet).. http://whatagirlwantsmovie.warnerbros.com/photos.html

Thanks, Maria, nice new picture of them getting tickled by the ivy ;-) I think they make a great Father/Daughter team.

Sorry, should've gotten the big ones:

(Karen) Would rather he won a Best Actor award personally. Well he won best actor for the week on the BBC website... http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/fun.shtml

Thanks, Murph! I noticed that George Michael was #3. I guess a lot of males also voted. ;-) Thanks, Maria, for the heads up on that picture. I like the fact that he keeps wearing a blue shirt. ;-D

Thanks all...but who is Most Elegant, Caroline Corrs???;-))

Am deleting linked post above. Didn't realize the image was 243K. Gaaah!

(Maria) Well he won best actor for the week on the BBC website... I didn't see a winkie. IMO, all these polls are meaningless to anybody but a vain, no-talent celebrity-type actor. When I said Best Actor, I think you all know what I mean by that, and it certainly wouldn't be anything where you voted on the internet.

(Karen) I didn't see a winkie. ;0}

Zap To It: TV Gal Freshens Up for Her Top 10 Men http://tv.zap2it.com/shows/features/features.html?29620 "Every year, I pick my list of the "Top 10 Men to Run Away with." The men on my list are men who, if they arrived at my door today, I would simply pack up and go off with, leaving a trail of remote controls in my wake. No packing. No job notification. No change of address forms. No big farewell party. Let me remind you that I wouldn't stop being an independent woman. Really, I can write the TV Gal column from any location. And, of course, I'd call my parents and give them the address of our little love nest. I'd even invite all of you to our wedding. And (bonus) I wouldn't make any of you be bridesmaids." ....7. Colin Firth: If you saw "Bridget Jones' Diary" and "Pride and Prejudice" this choice needs no explanation. This man smolders on the screen. I want him to tell me that he likes me very much just the way I am.

(Karen) it certainly wouldn't be anything where you voted on the internet. Now Karen, if someone inspires such devotion that devotees would do something dishonest like vote multiple times, shouldn't that count for something? I mean, really, if the Hello poll had some 66,000 votes and one out of every 5 were for ODB, that is outstanding! I would also say I did my part, where were all of you?! ;-) (And if I wrecked those tags, you may say it is my just desserts!)

(BarbS) if someone inspires such devotion that devotees would do something dishonest like vote multiple times, shouldn't that count for something? In whose mind? A serious actor, not a celebrity, would value one Oscar nom over 100 of these. Hope you aren't bothering with any voting at a Freevote site and that you know *anybody* can set up a booth there.

Well as Neil Pearson said when he was nominated for Sexiest Man of the Year...(not!) "It's better than throwing up when someone mentions your name".

(Karen) When I said Best Actor, I think you all know what I mean by that, and it certainly wouldn't be anything where you voted on the internet. Ah yes, but even BAFTA is voting online this year....granted it can only be accessed by voting members, but apparently a big deal for them this year. ;-)

(Barb S)devotees would do something dishonest like vote multiple times, shouldn't that count for something? I mean, really, if the Hello poll had some 66,000 votes and one out of every 5 were for ODB, that is outstanding! I would also say I did my part, where were all of you?! ;-) Didn't you see me? I was the one voting after you each time ;-) Shallow? Yes - I know, I know and I agree with Karen, that it is nothing to a "real" award (or waiting 18 years, 18 f*#�"# years for an Oscar....)

(Me) shouldn't that count for something? that is outstanding! Whoops. Looks like I missed a couple of winkies. Tongue was firmly lodged in cheek at the above points. Besides, I'm too honest to vote more than once. (insert v.b. evil grin winkie!)

MariaT, you should've posted a "dimple alert" to go with that link to the Hello poll. Mmmmmmm..... :) (from Hello profile) �I�ve sometimes wanted to play the village pervert in something and nobody wants me to do that,� says actor Colin Firth LOL! Oh, the mental image of that one will keep me chuckling for the rest of the evening...

(Moonstar)HG is a bit on the young side (I think she's 30 to CF's 42) Isn't she the same age as Livia? Although she does have a girl-like quality. - But my DH was certainly impressed when he saw her in Edinburgh last year!

(Moonstar)HG is a bit on the young side (I think she's 30 to CF's 42) Ah the pairing of film, and FF. Think of it this way, when he's 77 she'll be 65. Does that sound any better. Side note. I am related to a couple who married when he was 50 and she was v. early 20's. I can't say that would appeal to me, but I'll tell you what. She kept him young. They had 3 kids and when he was 90, he looked at acted very close to his wife's age of 60 something. Lived to be 101!!!!! To each his own! ;)

(Colin)I�ve sometimes wanted to play the village pervert in something and nobody wants me to do that,� Well, you were almost there in MOTM;-) Annette and Barb...I was there too;-)

FYI, part of that quote was deleted or censored by Hello. ;-)

I've put up a couple of the HS pics with a *new* perspective. http://www.firth.com/hs_gal2.html

I like the new persopective, Karen!:-) And finally . . . Yahoo is reporting confirmatoin of the Hope Springs release date for April 4 in US (assume this includes Canada). . . and it's listed as a "wide" release!:-) No Dallas for this one, Evelyn! They also confirm April 18 for the UK. So, CF has 2 films opening in wide release on the same day here. Tsk, tsk, such shameless ubiquity the likes of which I've never seen . . .;-) ;-)

(Mari), So, CF has 2 films opening in wide release on the same day here. Tsk, tsk, such shameless ubiquity the likes of which I've never seen . . .;-) ;-) LOL! I bet he thinks so too. ;-) VG, Karen!

And, April 4th happens to be Lora's birthday. What a great present!

Woo woo!! This will be soooooo difficult, trying to decide which CF film to see on that day. And, April 4th happens to be Lora's birthday. What a great present! May have to reschedule this...as no one will be around here and in b-day posting mood. ;-) BTW, I neglected to thank Hola for sharing the copy and other info. But did you read the description of Colin's love interest: "a monoligual Portuguese housemaid." So will this be compared to MIM, how will Colin stand up to Rafe, and, more importantly, will this Lucia Moniz draw in as many as JLO? ;-)

Good girl for adding the pics, boss. I was getting awfully tired of seeing him peaking out from those leaves. Double header for April 4th. Bring a cush....

(Janet) Isn't she the same age as Livia? I thought there was only about a 6 year age difference between the two. Could be wrong, 'course :) (Mari) So, CF has 2 films opening in wide release on the same day here Did we ever think we'd have the dilemma of which film to see first? Sounds like a double feature night to me ;) (Karen) May have to reschedule this...as no one will be around here and in b-day posting mood. ;-) LOL! No, we'll all be at the cinema (including the b-day girl, as well, I bet).

(Moon Star)I thought there was only about a 6 year age difference between the two. Could be wrong, 'course :) According to an interview given some years ago: Livia is 10 years my junior (born in 1970, same year as Jennifer Ehle btw). LOL! No, we'll all be at the cinema (including the b-day girl, as well, I bet). I do hope, that at least some of you will rush back here to serve some crumbs for those of us, not fortunately enough to live in the US of UK. I very much enjoyed when the TIOBE-dvd was released (for your information - it most likely will never open, where I come from. Hope that won't be the case for Hope Springs and WAGW as well).

(Mari) So, CF has 2 films opening in wide release on the same day here Did we ever think we'd have the dilemma of which film to see first? Sounds like a double feature night to me ;) All good things come to those who wait...;-)I think, anyway. How are we going to manage the publicity...this could be dicey. Oh my, how will I handle seeing both of these at the same time while trying to tie or break my TIOBE record? This could be considered grounds for divorce.

LOL, Linda! This will be soooooo difficult, trying to decide which CF film to see on that day. You're joking, right? HS of course!

(Karen) This will be soooooo difficult, trying to decide which CF film to see on that day. (Moon) You're joking, right? HS of course! At the Church of Colin (I am an active member) we encourage viewing both films on the first day...multiple times if possible. I, for one, am taking the day off and getting in line early. It is the holiest of days...a CF double bill...this may only happen once in a lifetime. ;-D

(Tress) a CF double bill...this may only happen once in a lifetime. ;-D Even more rare than a blue moon....a Firth moon! Oh my, a double entendre! LOL. Seems to be my forte tonight. ;-)

Meredith, you wanna come to Nashville on 4/4 and watch movies with me? I figure we'll have to go as far as Music to find them showing because, well, we're all ignorant arse backward hicks, and if our luck runs like it did with TIOBE, then Nashville will be the closet place to find the movies playing.

(Linda)How are we going to manage the publicity...this could be dicey. I know, I'm already worried about that. Remember with TIOBE I nearly cracked for fear of missing even the smallest interview snippet. Entirely too much pressure.;-) Linda, how are you going to handle this nightmare scenario: You're in theater 1, watching the first showing of HS. But in theater 2, you know that WAGW is playing--and there are people other than you who are seeing it first.;-) Boy, nothing for months, and then 2 buses come at once. Jeannie, these are both supposed to be wide releases--so you should have to travel no farther than the local multiplex.

(LindaK) How are we going to manage the publicity...this could be dicey. Which potted palm to stake out? Tricky, very tricky... (Jeanie) Meredith, you wanna come to Nashville on 4/4 and watch movies with me? I figure we'll have to go as far as Music to find them showing because, well, we're all ignorant arse backward hicks It's a date! But, if you're all ignorant arse backward hicks in Tennesse, what on earth are we in So. Kentucky, LOL? At least these movies will be shown where you live. I'm stuck with The Hot Chick and Kangaroo Jack on multiple screens (no, I'm not kidding) :(

(Dorine) Even more rare than a blue moon....a Firth moon! Oh my, a double entendre! LOL. Seems to be my forte tonight. ;-) And rather prophetic, given the news over on the BJD topic. ;-) Linda, how are you going to handle this nightmare scenario: You're in theater 1, watching the first showing of HS. But in theater 2, you know that WAGW is playing--and there are people other than you who are seeing it first.;-) AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! I already can't stand it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I founnd this review on a UK film site. HOPE SPRINGS duration 092 minutes certification 12A country UK/USA year 2002 Colin Firth gets caught between Heather Graham and Minnie Driver in this slight Anglo-American romantic comedy from Mark Herman, writer-director of Brassed Off and Little Voice Hope Springs starts with a series of shots of Colin Firth, in transit on planes and coaches, looking devastated and surly. It's a face he does well. His character, British portrait artist Colin Ware, has received a wedding invite from his fianc�e inviting him to her marriage to another man. Understandably distraught, he flees. Ware ends up in Hope, drawn by the name of this tiny Vermont town. Ensconced in a hotel run by the eccentric Joanie (Steenburgen) and her husband, Fisher (Collison), he suddenly finds himself the recipient of the affections of Mandy (Graham), a local nurse. In a bizarre scene, she gets drunk, takes off her clothes and throws herself at him. Suddenly they're an item. Out of his lovesick period, Colin hurls himself into drawing portraits of locals and arranging an exhibition. It's a seemingly idyllic lifestyle. Until his ex- fianc�e, snooty, peremptory Vera (Driver) turns up, explains the invite was simply a joke to spur him into finally marrying and says "I'm not going back until you agree to come back with me." Oh dear. As Joanie says to her boss-eyed, daffy husband, "Even you must have noticed that Anglo-American relations are reaching an all-time high up there in room 11." The vigourously physical Colin and Mandy are very much in love. The brusque Vera won't take no for an answer though, and the trouble starts. It's the romantic comedy staple that the path of true love will be interrupted by lies and misunderstandings. Colin initially does a good job of fire control, but it's never that easy. Sometimes you just want to scream at the screen as the loving couple fail to communicate and the romantic perfection collapses. This formulaic dimension damages Hope Springs, because as a modest character study it's relatively sweet. After early lurches, the plot settles into a fairly entertaining three-way problem as the wonderfully bitchy Vera - Driver plays her as a quintessentially English, horsey snob - attempts to bully Colin, and anyone else she meets (she's particularly riled by the fact she seems unable to have a cigarette in peace; it's a running joke, thus: "Sorry this is a non-smoking area." "What, America?"). The wiry Driver also provides the film's most shocking moment - when she gets her kit off. If ever there was a time to stop spending so much time in the gym, it's now Minnie. Verdict There are no revelations here, and the tone of the film sits uncomfortably between stock US romantic comedy and the more wry UK equivalent, but it's passably endearing and generally gentle.

(review) The wiry Driver also provides the film's most shocking moment - when she gets her kit off. Erm, could someone translate that for me, please? Does this mean she's too thin? Well, at least it's not a "run the other way" review, right? (trying desperately to stay positive)

Does this mean she's too thin? Maybe she's starting to look like one of those slim and v. muscular women you see on the cover of fitness mags. (the kind my unfit self resents so)

Hope Springs starts with a series of shots of Colin Firth, in transit on planes and coaches, looking devastated and surly. ... me sees Firthette belated birthdays material :0)

(Mari)Linda, how are you going to handle this nightmare scenario: I don't know. Any suggestions? Help...Maybe Karen will create a help topic for us. Any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Just how am I to sort it out with the breaking news on 149??

Thanks for the preview review, Mari. The vigourously physical Colin and Mandy are very much in love. If this means what I think it means, we better see some of it, physically speaking, that is. ;-) Sometimes you just want to scream at the screen as the loving couple fail to communicate and the romantic perfection collapses. Reminds me of Dutch Girls and probably the upcoming TEOR. as a modest character study it's relatively sweet. And that's what we thought it would be. she seems unable to have a cigarette in peace; it's a running joke Golf course scene.

"as a modest character study it's relatively sweet." (Karen)And that's what we thought it would be. Yup...sounds like the book. Hope they keep the tie scene in;-) Can't be too "vigourously physical" if it's PG-13.

(Tress) At the Church of Colin (I am an active member) we encourage viewing both films on the first day...multiple times if possible. I thought that was you I saw Sunday. See all our praying paid off. Thank God. Wide release for both. Hopefully meaning alot of interviews, although he might tout both in interviews. Have seen this before with other actors in same situation. That's ok, may make for longer interview. Hurray!!!

(Karen), If this means what I think it means, we better see some of it, physically speaking, that is. ;-) (Evelyn), Can't be too "vigourously physical" if it's PG-13. You said it first, Evelyn. What could that mean? Lots of kissing and then fade-to-black? Speaking of which, any news on FTB?

I noticed that there is already some very worried fans trying to sort out just how in the world they can juggle all the publicity for two films released so close together. Well, I have a suggestion. Move to Oz and then you don't have to worry about it. We will be lucky to get one out of every twenty things you all see 'up there'! ;)

yeah, same thing here in winter wonderland...I may never see TIOBE on a big screen :(

I found a bit of someone's 5 minutes with Colin done during the TIOBE junket, which I've added to the Earnest page. He's trying to emphasize the risque in this PG film. *snort* http://firth.com/earnest.html

(Karen) I found a bit of someone's 5 minutes with Colin done during the TIOBE junket... This was interesting for me! I knew Jim Ferguson about a hundred years ago! He lived in my neighborhood when I was growing up. He had a local TV show and was a big celebrity by Tucson standards.

The UK reviewer also posted this film quote: "By the way, is it 'Mandy' with a 'y' or 'Mandi' with an 'i' with a little circle above it?" Vera (Minnie Driver) derides her blonde, ditzy foe to Colin ~Must have thought it representative of the film :-( That's not in the book, is it?

(Moon)And, April 4th happens to be Lora's birthday. What a great present! (Mari)LOL! No, we'll all be at the cinema (including the b-day girl, as well, I bet). (Karen)May have to reschedule this...as no one will be around here and in b-day posting mood. ;-) Hmmm. Which movie to see first? It's a hard one to call. ;-) But since my b-day is on the 5th (not the 4th - but, Moon, it is the weekend of the 4th and what a great double present in one box it is, too) I'll see one on the 4th and one on the 6th! We can celebrate on 160 all weekend ;-) there's sure to be many new promotional pics to utilize! And BTW, where do you think the openings will take place (week before)? Maybe I could turn one into a b-day present :-)

Thanks for the new close ups, Karen, and for the review, Mari. The part of Vera has Minnie and b*tch written all over it.

The western wind is blowing fair! Our Hastings has their previously viewed TIOBE tapes on clearance. They are going for $9.99 but currently it's buy one and get one for a penny. You might want to make a little excursion if you have one near you. I won't say how many I bought but the clerk said, "You're a big fan, huh?" and I don't have much more birthday shopping to do this year!:-)

Have been away plus came back sick. Had to get some Drool however. What a lot of great news to come back to. Two, two, two movies. Could hope for a Sneak Peak night. Think it's going to have to be HS first however if I have to choose. Will try to catch up. So much on every topic. Thanks everybody.

Hi everyone! some quick notes about Edge of Reason: The only two holdups on this project were Renee and the script. The first has been resolved and the second is still in progress. As I've said all along since last year, this is a done deal. The tentative shoot dates we have are now 7/7/03 to 10/10/03 and a very early possible release date is 4/9/04. But that is tentative with a capital T. Also, a quick comment about rumors and statements about Clooney, Colin's "nude scenes" and salaries. Please be advised that the studio does not divulge salaries to outside sources. So I cannot confirm nor deny what Colin is getting for this project because his contract has not been input into a studio DRCM yet. The Clooney participation is still not confirmed and has never been confirmed by ANYONE in my office. So please be weary of anything you might hear until an actual press release has been distributed to the media. The same goes for scenes in the script. If the script is still in draft form, it is subject to several changes until final delivery to the studio so I cannot confirm any such content until then. Hope that helps. Will keep you posted with any news I can report and confirm. It is my custom never to publish anything unless it is an absolute done deal with a signature. :) As for Love Actually, we are still in the process of seeing what the final rating for it will be, even though tentatively we have it down as PG-13, it is also possibly an R. Hopefully not. We'll see. Take care and thanks again for all the well wishes on the upcoming marriage. Hola

Hola Lola..... Thanks very much for the update! Hope all the wedding plans are smooth and simple, and you aren't a frazzled mess! ;)

The tentative shoot dates we have are now 7/7/03 to 10/10/03 and a very early possible release date is 4/9/04. But that is tentative with a capital T. Same release date but production pushed back by two months? Very optimistic or Tentative, as you say. So who is the director? Surely, that's been decided. ;-) tentatively we have it down as PG-13, it is also possibly an R. Hopefully not. Hopefully yes!! I would prefer a little more mature content but understand why studios prefer the PG-13 rating. Thanks Hola! OK, that means Colin definitely has time for another project pre-TEOR, unless his payday is so good, he can take the next 5 months off. OK, he's done it before...

Thank you so much Hola Lola! I always look forward to your updates... The same goes for scenes in the script. If the script is still in draft form, it is subject to several changes until final delivery to the studio so I cannot confirm any such content until then. Ohhhh!....Does this mean when the studio receives the script you'll be able to tell us whether or not ODB will be showing us his goodies? I may swoon....have only seen the 'rear view' on the small screen. Cannot begin to imagine... ;-) (Karen) OK, that means Colin definitely has time for another project pre-TEOR, unless his payday is so good, he can take the next 5 months off. OK, he's done it before... Hope there is another project in there but maybe he sees a big ol Italian vacation with the fam (am just hoping he does not disappear into the woods again or take up shoe cobbling). ;-)

Thank you for the good news Hola. Good Luck with your wedding.

I cannot confirm nor deny Lola, if you ever quit showbiz, you could get a job at the Pentagon. Are you really Don Rumsfeld?;-) Just teasing, am always glad to hear from you and I do appreciate your sharing what you can, whenever you can. Best wishes on the nuptials!

(Tress) am just hoping he does not disappear into the woods again or take up shoe cobbling). ;-) I popped in for a sec to read the board and when I saw this comment I almost fell off my chair laughing. That's hilarious!! (Mari)Are you really Don Rumsfeld?;-) Mari, how did you guess? But I can't confirm nor deny that either! :) You ladies crack me up. Take care!

Hola: Thanks for the updates. I wasn't as wild about Edge of Reason as I was about BJD, but it did have some funny bits in it. Will be great to see the three again. This schedule leaves time for Renee to zip right into Cinderella Man -- or something else. When is the big date? We can have a party over at Odds and Ends. Happy day to both of you.

(Lola)As for Love Actually, we are still in the process of seeing what the final rating for it will be, even though tentatively we have it down as PG-13, it is also possibly an R. Hopefully not. We'll see. I'm hoping it is...studios are ruining lots of good films by sanitizing the, imo. Though I can understand reaching a wider audience = $$$$ Can you imagine BJD as PG-13? Or SIL, FP?

Thank you, Lola. The news about TEoR is v. exciting... and your respones are v. politically correct. Must go back and reread for a third time TEoR. Love that book! I hope the script lives up to it. Best wishes to you, Lola, on your upcoming marriage, and thanks, again, for thinking of us.

Relative Values is playing on Foxtel's movie channel Showtime- watched it for the first time- very funny. ODB is brilliant as the camp nephew- does Noel Coward very well.

(Linda)Thank you, Lola. The news about TEoR is v. exciting... and your respones are v. politically correct. Must go back and reread for a third time TEoR. Love that book! I hope the script lives up to it. Best wishes to you, Lola, on your upcoming marriage, and thanks, again, for thinking of us. Hola, just wantet to express my gratitude and couldn't find better words than Lindas.

Thanks, Lola! To show our gratitude we would love to give you a virtual wedding shower at O&E, where we usually have Colin's birthday party. We would need a date from you before the wedding. Can you make it? :-D

(Hola Lola) The tentative shoot dates we have are now 7/7/03 to 10/10/03 and a very early possible release date is 4/9/04. They needed to push back the shoot dates so Colin could have some extra time with his trainer to bulk up for his scenes where clothing better *not* be optional. ;-) Remember Colin.....more protein, less carbs. No pints and just a little wine is ok. ;)

Does the video Buns of Steel come in a PAL version? ;-)

A mention of Colin in this Sunday's Mail (Scotland) in an item about actress Jenni Keenan Gree. It said: But her biggest break came shortly afterwards as co- presenter of Sky's live breakfast show Boiled Egg and Soldiers, alongside Hollywood heartthrob Adam Garcia. Jenni has fond memories of her year-long stint on the show, where she got to interview hunks such as Billy Zane and Colin Firth. She said: "Billy Zane's was the only interview I did where I just couldn't get myself together. He was so gorgeous, he rendered me almost speechless. "I was at the Titanic premiere, standing outside with all the journalists. We'd been told he wasn't doing interviews. "But I begged him for just two minutes of his time, and he agreed. "However, when I tried to get started, I opened my mouth and a load of babbling nonsense just came pouring out. But he was really charming and so lovely about it." She has two movies under her belt - having starred in the FilmFour gangster movie Swag, and played Kelly Macdonald's sidekick in the movie My Life So Far. ~~~~~~ So does this mean she actually interviewed Colin and he was on this program, or did she just catch him on the red carpet at a premiere and ask him an on air question? Hmmmmmm [the name of that program reminds me of something ;-)]

(Dorine)Remember Colin.....more protein, less carbs. No pints and just a little wine is ok. ;) Wot, so now you're Dr. Atkins? (Dorine)to bulk up for his scenes where clothing better *not* be optional. ;-) Yes, lets keep the fantasy alive...;-) (Karen)Does the video Buns of Steel come in a PAL version? ;-) I don't know, but maybe we can take up a collection for a bow-flex;-)

(Karen)Does the video Buns of Steel come in a PAL version? ;-) Oh yes, it does. You could easily persuade me to make the delivery personally. I'd even pay extra to have the honour. (I have several lying around, bought with the best intentions - now I seem to spend my money and time on quite different videos. ;-)

Sorry to post twice in a row, but I just received an email from Warner Bros with the headline: WHAT A GIRL WANTS Exclusive First Look. The pages shows 4 pictures from the movie, but none with CF. BUT - down the page, there is a link to some image collection which states: Connect to thousand af images from the movie. I cannot download the program to get to the images, but certainly some of you more talented droolers can figure out a way to "get to them"?

Thanks for the articles and links everyone.

(Annette)I just received an email from Warner Bros with the headline: WHAT A GIRL WANTS Exclusive First Look. The pages shows 4 pictures from the movie, but none with CF. BUT - down the page, there is a link to some image collection which states: Connect to thousand af images from the movie. I cannot download the program to get to the images, but certainly some of you more talented droolers can figure out a way to "get to them"? I did it this morning. They take you to a web site for Eyetide Media - there's a viewer you have to download, and the viewer wants to stay running in the background on your PC and check for new stuff daily. The WAGW collection currently seems to have 23 pictures, though for some reason I had to download several times to see all of them. They are all of Daphne and/or her boyfriend with one exception - they have the one with AB and CF "going over the wall" that we've already seen (and there's one of a car leaving West Wycombe Park, occupants unknown). The pictures are full-screen bitmaps. I managed to save the one with CF - I've cropped it (the full picture is too big to post), and here it is.

Thank you Rika, I knew you were the woman to do it. But it is a long way from 23 to "thousands of pictures" as statet from WB ;-) btw what is on his right arm (above the wrist)?

Thanks Annette and Rika for the better pic. Anybody interested in reading a novelized version of WAGW aimed at a 9-12 year old audience?? It comes out in May and is only $4.99. ;-))))))

(Annette) btw what is on his right arm (above the wrist)? Maybe a nicotine patch? ;-D (Karen) Anybody interested in reading a novelized version of WAGW aimed at a 9-12 year old audience?? It comes out in May and is only $4.99. ;-)))))) Okay, I wasn't interested until I saw the phrase "Packed With Over 50 Photos!" I spent $9 on The Secret Garden...I'll pay $4.99 for pictures (if there are ones with ODB)! The DH will be confused about why I need a Scholastic book, but he's been confused for a long time now! ;-) Thanks Rika! Love the closer look (I won't say why....).

(Tress)Thanks Rika! Love the closer look (I won't say why....). Does it have something to do with his - uhm - feets? ;-)

(Annette) btw what is on his right arm (above the wrist)? (Tress) Maybe a nicotine patch? ;-D LOL!!! His Saracen communicator? ;-)

Rika: The WAGW collection currently seems to have 23 pictures, though for some reason I had to download several times to see all of them. Rika: I downloaded the viewer, but can't seem to find WAGW. I don't see a search feature either. Can you help? Thanks. - murph

(Annette) Does it have something to do with his - uhm - feets? ;-) Wot? His feet are showing in that picture? Oh...LOL! I don't think I noticed! ;-D

(Tress)Wot? His feet are showing in that picture? Oh...LOL! I don't think I noticed! ;-D LOL, I bet you didn't. I was going to post that it probably had nothing to do with the feet. But you beat me to it. But I do love the way he curls his toes. *sigh* (Tress)I spent $9 on The Secret Garden...I'll pay $4.99 for pictures (if there are ones with ODB)! The DH will be confused about why I need a Scholastic book, but he's been confused for a long time now! ;-) Double LOL...Ditto!

(Annette) btw what is on his right arm (above the wrist)? Hey, remember in one of the LA pics from France (in the Bucket's LA gallery) he had a bandage on his right arm in that area? I know WAGW was filmed before LA, but that's not saying it was something that could've healed but needed a bandage again for some reason. Or they put the bandage on there to hide it and put it in the script for LA. Also, his hand looks more tan than that wide strip on his arm just above it. Maybe the whole arm is lighter. Hard to tell. If there could be something really wrong physically, almost looks like a burn or a skin graft. Too hard to tell in that size picture. Maybe a fake tattoo? ;-)

(Annette) btw what is on his right arm (above the wrist)? (Tress) Maybe a nicotine patch? ;-D (Dorine) LOL!!! His Saracen communicator? ;-) ROTFL...okay...I have been trying to come up with something clever (not an easy task for me) to top Dorine's response! This cracked me up and I don't think I can come up with anything to top it! Bravo! V. v. funny! And lindak! I'll reserve our copies of WAGW on Amazon...there may be a rush on them! ;-)

Empire Magazine on line on the big releases for 2003 - Love Actually: Richard Curtis and Hugh Grant, take 2190, in this Xmas-set ensemble comedy. The likes of Liam Neeson and Laura Linney will also be smooching under the mistletoe. This year's Bridget Jones, only bigger. Release date: December (UK) Estimated Box Office: $205 million http://www.empireonline.co.uk/features/spotlight/preview2003/11.asp

(Dorine) LOL!!! His Saracen communicator? ;-) Great comment. Could be. Thanks for close-up Rika. Great shot. Thanks for link Murph. How come no mention of Colin. Not fair. And book looks promising (?).

(Dorine) If there could be something really wrong physically, almost looks like a burn or a skin graft. Okay....I have looked at the LA picture again and it appears that the bandage is in the same place as this 'spot' on his arm that we can see in the WAGW picture....I do hope ODB is okay (no burn or other injury) Butt....I hate to think if it is a skin graft were that skin came from! Are the hopes and dreams of a BJD nekk'y scene to be dashed due to an injury??? Say it ain't so! Good news, if it is a graft, is that if any of us meet him and are able to touch the 'spot'...it would be like touching his...okay, must take myself to another topic!

(Dorine) If there could be something really wrong physically, almost looks like a burn or a skin graft. You girls get so excited over a few fingernails' scratch. ;-)

(Moon)You girls get so excited over a few fingernails' scratch. ;-) I hate to see wot those fingernails did this week;-) (Tress)Good news, if it is a graft, is that if any of us meet him and are able to touch the 'spot'...it would be like touching his...okay, must take myself to another topic! Good point! I don't know how you think of these things.

(lindak) Good point! I don't know how you think of these things. LOL!! Oh...some things are just always on my mind! ;-) (Moon) You girls get so excited over a few fingernails' scratch. ;-) Oh now...LOL! I was trying to be nice (I refrained from making any remark saying that he may have been chased with a curling iron!). ;-)

Hey, we're doing some zooming in on the wrist to see, but concensus (by us experts) is, it's a burn.

Another topic -- Remember "The Maid of Buttermere" and Lola Films? I was reminded of it when I saw this story from Screen Daily today. No mention of Maid, but they are trying to make some of the English language films that languished after the London office closed. http://www.screendaily.com/story.asp?storyid=10916

Could it be the shadow of a bulging forearm muscle? Be still my heart. Spilled cappucino? Naughty Starbucks! We can all sue for damages. Bandage is part of he script - he has a tatoo with Kelly What-her-name's name on it. Oops! That was that other movie.

(Tress) I hate to think if it is a skin graft were that skin came from! Are the hopes and dreams of a BJD nekk'y scene to be dashed due to an injury??? Can you say "stunt butt"? ;)

(moonstar) Can you say "stunt butt"? ;) LOL! Ohhhhh! I can say it, but I don't want to see it! Give me the real thing!!! ;-)

The Hello magazine with Colin's big important award for (what is it??) Most Attractive Man should be at most US newsstands by now. It is No. 749, dated Jan 28, 2003, and has Melanie and Antonio and kid on the cover. Is same pic as was on website.

Most Attractive Man should be at most US newsstands by now. Does anybody know, if there is an article attached?

I've put the relevant sections up at The Bucket, but it is pretty much what was written at the Hello website as well, if not verbatim, but I'm not going to bother checking. http://www.firth.com/p_eye5.html

(Murph) I downloaded the viewer, but can't seem to find WAGW. I don't see a search feature either. Can you help? Thanks. - murph I couldn't find it listed there either, but I think I went back to the link that originally took me to the Eyetide site and clicked on it again, and then the pictures started to download. I'm tellin' ya, it was WEIRD the way it all worked. It would tell me there were 23 pictures, but then only download about six at a time.... sometimes more.... I eventually got them all but I couldn't begin to tell you exactly what I did. I just kind of clicked links and buttons until I bent the software to my will. Also, be warned, it will periodically pop up on your screen. I un-installed it this morning, and I figure I'll re-install it every now and then to see what's new. (Annette) btw what is on his right arm (above the wrist)? Interesting. When I first watched the hi-res version of the WAGW trailer and blew it up to full-screen, I could have sworn I saw a tattoo on his right arm in the black leather pants sequence. But it's only visible in the mirror, and I figured it was probably just a shadow or an imperfection in the video capture. And besides, I figured y'all would think I had lost my few remaining marbles and had moved on to full-blown hallucinations, so I never mentioned it.

Am picking up your marbles... ;-) I'd say it was definitely supposed to be a tattoo of some sort from these two pics, done in his wild younger days.

BTW, that's as good as I can get on the armpit, in case there are fans here. ;-D

(Karen)BTW, that's as good as I can get on the armpit, in case there are fans here. Dying to know what the tatoo says, and yes there are fans here, thanks, boss.

(Karen) Am picking up your marbles... ;-) I'd say it was definitely supposed to be a tattoo of some sort from these two pics, done in his wild younger days. Thanks, boss, for the photographic support for my sanity! (And for the armpit detail ;-)

(Karen)BTW, that's as good as I can get on the armpit, in case there are fans here. ;-D Oh thank you Karen. I would also go for the tatto, though I also loved the idea of the Saracen Communicator, Dorine. (Rika)And besides, I figured y'all would think I had lost my few remaining marbles and had moved on to full-blown hallucinations LOL, Nevar - I'm sure you are just as sane as the rest of us ;-)

BTW, took another look at the LA pics from France. Looks like the bandage is in the same spot as the tattoo.

I recently read GWAPE and today I managed to find a book of Vermeer from the library. Are we waiting for the movie to discuss GWAPE?

We discussed the book GWAPE on the Book conference back in November-December: http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/books/45/new

(Karen) Am picking up your marbles... ;-) I'd say it was definitely supposed to be a tattoo of some sort from these two pics, done in his wild younger days. Great picture Karen. Thanks. Wonder if tatoo says "Bee Gees". Am definitely a fan of the underarm.

(linda)Looks like the bandage is in the same spot as the tattoo. Same arm, looks higher and too narrow to cover the size of the 'thing'in the teen flick pic........;) IMHO

(Karen) BTW, that's as good as I can get on the armpit, in case there are fans here. ;-D (Linda) Dying to know what the tatoo says, and yes there are fans here, thanks, boss. (Rika) Thanks, boss, for the photographic support for my sanity! (And for the armpit detail ;-) (Pam) Am definitely a fan of the underarm. I think it's safe to say that most of us are fans of all parts of ODB! If somebody out there thinks there is a bad part, I'd like to know what it is! (linda) BTW, took another look at the LA pics from France. Looks like the bandage is in the same spot as the tattoo. (Lisa) Same arm, looks higher and too narrow to cover the size of the 'thing'in the teen flick pic........;) Perhaps he's just incredibly clumsy and keeps injuring himself on the right forearm? ;-)

About the Hello Most Attractive Man Vote I know it's not exactly a scientific poll but doesn't it say something extraordinary about CF and his fans? I don't know of any 40 something US actor who hasn't had a real hit movie on his own EVER who would be voted most attractive man in US. Plus his PR is almost non-existent. Think about it.

Hey boss, you forgot to list Colin as the BBC favorite actor. And this week: *Drum Roll* Top 5 Dramas 1. Pride & Prejudice 2. Conspiracy 3. Monarch of the Glen 4. Daniel Deronda 5. Merseybeat http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/fun.shtml (Kathleen)... I know it's not exactly a scientific poll but doesn't it say something extraordinary about CF and his fans? Yeah... They have nothing else to do except pad the polls....on "Hello" already;-)))

Plus his PR is almost non-existent. Think about it. He's almost the Invisible Man in the UK - no live interviews/chat shows, no tabloid coverage! Hope Springs opens in the UK on April 18. Someone has posted re. GWAPE on the Yahoo! Movies site..... "Some weeks ago scenes of the film "Girl with a Pearl Earring" are made in Delft. The original city of Vermeer. It happens to be my place of living too. And almost daily I walk through the streets he used to walk some ages ago. Offcourse I am very anxious to see the film when it is ready. I already read the book. I hope I can find some info when the film will be broadcast, available on video or other." Am looking forward to GWAPE! Much more so than the Sylvia Plath movie For anyone with regrets that CF did not take on Ted Hughes, I think the bias will very much in favour of SP, and very unsympathetic to Ted Hughes. From a recent article in the Sunday Telegraph ...... "The BBC is being asked to help to maintain the grave of Sylvia Plath because of concern that a forthcoming film could lead to vandalism. Local people want profits from the film about the poet to be spent on maintaining and preserving the graveyard in Heptonstall, West Yorks, where she is buried, which has become a shrine for feminists and other admirers. In the 1970s, the grave was desecrated by women who felt that Plath, author of The Bell Jar and mother of Ted Hughes's two surviving children, was driven to gassing herself at the age of 30 by her husband's philandering. The ame "Hughes" was regularly hacked off her headstone by feminists who blamed her suicide on his adultery with Assia Wevill. Plath's full married name now appears in bronze lettering on a replacement headstone in a move aimed at making it easy to repair. Miss Wevill, haunted by the memory of Plath, committed suicide with Shura, the daughter she had by Hughes, in 1969, six years after Plath's death. Hughes married again in 1970. The BBC said its �7 million film would be a respectful portrait of a marriage seen principally through the eyes of Plath, prompting concern that her fans could flock to the site." The BBC comedy series "The Office" is apparently showing in the US. Well worth watching. One of the characters, Tim, is played by Martin Freeman (very funny!) who will be appearing in "Love Actually". IMHO Richard Curtis has assembled a great cast - established big names and some great new talent. Success guaranteed!

Plus his PR is almost non-existent. Think about it. (Bethan)He's almost the Invisible Man in the UK - no live interviews/chat shows, no tabloid coverage! C'mon Bethan...he's a household name over there. Started with "Darcymania....6+ yrs a go. Mention BJD and his name automatically surfaces.Even before the movie.

(Bethan)He's almost the Invisible Man in the UK - no live interviews/chat shows, no tabloid coverage! C'mon Bethan...he's a household name over there. Ah, but I meant this as a compliment - he manages to keep his popularity, whilst keeping a very low profile in terms of personal publicity.

Evelyn- Yeah they have nothing else to do but pad the polls. Very funny Evelyn!!! I think there is quite a lot to do in the Sunset Years homes these days. Bless their hearts for taking time to pad. (LOL)

(Evelyn)C'mon Bethan...he's a household name over there. You're absolutely right, but that is in spite of his total lack of appearances on chat shows, daytime TV and tabloid columns. Commonplace for his contemporaries ie Hugh Grant, Ken Branagh, etc. I'm desperate for him to appear on Parkinson - now that would be a something to see! Maybe this year!

(Kathleen) I think there is quite a lot to do in the Sunset Years homes these days. Aaah, something to look forward to. IRL have been spending much time in Sunset Years type places getting father situated. Will keep my eyes open for posters on walls of neighbors' rooms. In mean time, will stake out my place next to community PC for purposes of padding certain polls. (How soon can I sign up?)

(KathyF)I think it's safe to say that most of us are fans of all parts of ODB! Is it THAT obvious?? (linda) BTW, took another look at the LA pics from France. Looks like the bandage is in the same spot as the tattoo. (Lisa) Same arm, looks higher and too narrow to cover the size of the 'thing'in the teen flick pic........;) (KathyF)Perhaps he's just incredibly clumsy and keeps injuring himself on the right forearm? ;-) From the Positive Thinking Dept...Maybe his kissing lessons instructor assigned him an inordinate amount of homework, LD was in Rome, he had to practice somewhere, and he ravaged his forearm over and over...;}

(Janet), I'm desperate for him to appear on Parkinson - now that would be a something to see! Yes! And we get it on BBC/America. (Maria), Maybe his kissing lessons instructor assigned him an inordinate amount of homework, LD was in Rome, he had to practice somewhere, and he ravaged his forearm over and over...;} LOL! I'm glad you said that and not me. ;-)

A mention of Hope Springs in today's paper by HG during promotion for The Guru. Nothing much: http://www.suntimes.com/output/entertainment/sho-sunday-graham26.html

(Janet), I'm desperate for him to appear on Parkinson - now that would be a something to see! (Moon Dreams)Yes! And we get it on BBC/America. **Finally** I can say, "We get that here too!" :)

Thanks for article on HS and HG Karen. At least it's a mention.

(attempting to play catchup.. eyes crossing from scrolling) Wow! Lots of good stuff happening. I am a fan of all parts since the sum of all the parts makes a whole, and the whole is mighty tastey. Ummm.. thanks Hola for your so appreciated information, as well as thanks to our goddess as well as everyone else who has supplied insight. (Rika)And besides, I figured y'all would think I had lost my few remaining marbles and had moved on to full-blown hallucinations. I KNEW I left those mushrooms somewhere! (rinsing out Rika's coffeecup)

"Girl with a pearl ear ring" is being dramatised as the "Book at Bedtime" on Radio 4 in the UK all this week.

Yeah!!! GWAPE still exists!! Small mention... http://www.screendaily.com/story.asp?storyid=10976

Thanks for the GWAPE info Bethan and Maria. Can you send me some mushrooms Jeanie?

Karen, I have an extra 2003 Upcoming features press kit with a fact sheet and CD which contains Love Actually. If you would like this please email me with an address and I'll send it along. Once the press kit for the film is compiled I'll send you one of those as well and you can upload the info here for the ladies. I'll give you more details when I receive your email. For those who asked, I'm getting married on February 15th in Maui. Thanks for all the good wishes, I really appreciate it. I'll come back with more stuff once I can. Till then..take care everyone!!

Hola, Lola! You are so nice to keep us so well informed! You are our Firth degree of separation! Wishing you good health and happiness in your upcoming marriage! We'll be thinking of you. Maui, wow! Aloha, Lola! Sending lots of good wishes your way!

(Hola Lola) For those who asked, I'm getting married on February 15th in Maui. Thanks for all the good wishes, I really appreciate it. Congratulations! We'll practically be crossing paths in the air! I'll be getting back from Kona on the 12th! I hear the weather is perfect right now and the whales are out! I'm sure that you will have a perfect wedding!!!

How beautiful that will be Lola! Have a wonderful time! Thanks for everything. It's much appreciated! :-D

Aloha Lola! A wedding in Hawaii means toasting with pina coladas. ;-) I wish you joy. I recommend a lei with tuberoses, a rapsodic intoxication. :-)

Hola Lola, Ho`omaika`i! E pili mau n� p�maika`i me `oe! (Congratulations and best wishes!!)

Hola Lola, Ho`omaika`i! E pili mau n� p�maika`i me `oe! (Congratulations and best wishes!!)

Thank you so much for all your wonderful information Hola. Wishing you and your future husband every good thing possible. Congratulations!!!!

(FanPam)Thank you so much for all your wonderful information Hola. Wishing you and your future husband every good thing possible. Congratulations!!!! Sorry to copy your post, FanPam, but ditto from me, Hola.

Mahalo, Lola! Maui is one of my very favorite places--your wedding will be enchanting, I'm sure. All the best to you and Mr. Lola!:-)

Hi Again! Thanks so much for the sweet messages, they are lovely and much appreciated. Karen, your kit is being sent out today. Once the actual Love Actually kit is complete I'll send you a copy as that will have lots more in it than this one. Colin does not have a personal publicist yet and so how much press he'll do for What A Girl Wants and Hope Springs will depend on who the studios want to focus on. Most likely he'll do the typical Colin Firth tour of duty. I personally would like to see him branch out a bit more in the late night talk show circuit and popular publications but again that would be more feasible if he had a personal rep. He's recently had a change of agents here in LA so perhaps he will shift a bit in his choices. I'd like to hope so. I've always said he is grossly underrated and some of his choices have not been great showcases for that brilliant talent of his. He's capable of so much more. Take care everyone and thanks again! Hola

Hola, Maui is such a beautiful island, I know your wedding will be gorgeous. My very best wishes to both of you.

I got this e-mail from Jack Binder: Dear Friends, "Londinium" is now airing on HBO in the USA (air dates on link below) and will air on ITV in the UK shortly, please check listings in UK. The film is titled "Love Affairs" in Germany and is on video. Kindly pass this information on to interested Colin Firth Fans and Fan Web Sites. All the best, The "Londinium" crew. http://www.hbo.com/apps/schedule/ScheduleServlet?ACTION_DETAIL=DETAIL&ID=89058

Colin does not have a personal publicist yet Lola, your use of the word "yet" tells me that you still hold out some hope.;-) He's recently had a change of agents here in LA Did the previous one die? If so, did anyone notice?;-) I've always said he is grossly underrated and some of his choices have not been great showcases for that brilliant talent of his. He's capable of so much more. Amen, sister! But apparently he is unwilling or unable to take on more challenging projects.

Congrats. Lola! What a beautiful spot for a wedding! Mari:Did the previous one die? If so, did anyone notice?;-) Funny!!! Now if they could quietly retire John Paul in London!!!

Once again, Lola, congratulations and best wishes to you. Thank you for keeping us up to date on Colin. Yes, underrated and brilliant do describe ODB perfectly. (Mari)But apparently he is unwilling I thought we turned that ship around in September!:-)

(Linda) I thought we turned that ship around in September!:-) Depends, if/when he made his commitments for LA and GWAPE. Otherwise, I fear the ship may still be in dry dock. ;-)

(HolaLola) Colin does not have a personal publicist yet and so how much press he'll do for What A Girl Wants and Hope Springs will depend on who the studios want to focus on. I would do it for free... O.K....Don't laugh at me, but I emailed Katie Couric (who lets face it, seems to have a soft spot for him) and asked if there were any plans to have him on what with 2 movies openeing in April and another 2 later in the year. I'm sure it will be a fruitless effort, but what the heck...

(HolaLola) Colin does not have a personal publicist yet and so how much press he'll do for What A Girl Wants and Hope Springs will depend on who the studios want to focus on. (Maria) I would do it for free... I'd pay him! ;-) (Hola Lola) Colin does not have a personal publicist yet (Mari) Lola, your use of the word "yet" tells me that you still hold out some hope.;-) I hooked onto that little word, too. ;-) I've always said he is grossly underrated and some of his choices have not been great showcases for that brilliant talent of his. He's capable of so much more. Very accurate and a bit of an understatement as well. Just said that almost verbatim to someone only slightly familiar with him the other day. (Maria) O.K....Don't laugh at me, but I emailed Katie Couric What the hell....certainly can't hurt. Hey, if she's a lurker, she already knows and is working diligently on it. ;-) I'd love to see him on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart again. A show off the beaten path. (Linda) I thought we turned that ship around in September!:-) (Karen) Depends, if/when he made his commitments for LA and GWAPE. Otherwise, I fear the ship may still be in dry dock. ;-) Or shipwrecked on the rocks. ;-)

(Dorine) I'd love to see him on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart again. A show off the beaten path He was next on my list!! I still read the transcripts to ODB's interview with JS and crack up every time. Their wit played off each other well...

(Maria)He was next on my list!! I still read the transcripts to ODB's interview with JS and crack up every time. Their wit played off each other well... Mine, too. And as far as plain old interviews go, I'll opt for Jeffrey Lyons again, as much as we dreaded this one, it turned out to be one of the best in the bunch for TIOBE, IMO. Ah, memories of the little Roman Tailor.

(Murph)Now if they could quietly retire John Paul in London!!! The Pope is leaving Rome?? Damn Reformation.;-) Just teasing you, Murph, I know who you mean--the artist formerly known as Paul Lyin' Maris.;-) As for the previous LA agent--I hope CF never paid him anything. If he did, ODB should sue for taking money under false pretenses. (Linda)I thought we turned that ship around in September!:-) Was I on board?:-) Waaaaah, I never saw the Jeffrey Lyons interview.

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(Mari)Was I on board?:-) Actually I was joking about Colin's birthday theme;-) Wot, you missed the party, too? I don't think so. I saw you there;-) Didn't I? Sheesh, I didn't have that many martinis. Maybe if I had a maritini during the HG interviews this morning, I wouldn't still be here scratching my head.

Is it Martini time? ;-) ATTENTION ALL FIRTHETTES I would like to hear what kind of questions you would ask Colin if you had a chance to interview him. We've seen his movies, read his interviews, followed his plays... so what kind of intelligent questions can we come with? I hope to hear from everyone. :-D

(Moon) so what kind of intelligent questions can we come with? ...can't think, eyes glazing over, brain is doinginginginging that old LP skip thing...seem to have only one track right now...come back to this one later

Ok Moon , I'll bite! "Mr. Firth, I'm wondering if you could talk us through your selection process when choosing a new project? From start to finsh, as it were, to really get an idea of the steps that are involved when a professional actor of your standing finally commits to his next role? I think our readers would be fancinated to learn about this!" Knowing his answer could take them into the dinner hour, Firth eyes the coffee fixings over in the corner. "Cappuccino?" I offer amicably, "You take non-fat and two sugars, right?"

intelligent So that means we can't ask what MB is blackmailing him with, huh? ;-) Hmmm, never got to ask "if Peter was gay?" but we all know the answer to that one now. Will have to think about it.

(Moon)Is it Martini time? ;-) LOL, you reminded of one of my Aunts. All we had to do was say the word "Martini", and she'd look up from whatever she was doing and say "Is it Martini time"? Well I'd ask about the loft scene in MLSF...since the boss couldn't get a straight answer from him the first time around;-) And... Interviewer(ME): Mr. Firth could you please elaborate on the decision you made not to do a screen test for the role of Ted Hughes... ...after a non-descript answer from Mr. Firth... Interviewer(ME):"What were you thinking"?

I�m pleased to tell you that Colin Firth agreed to sit down with me for a few minutes and answer my question. Here is an excerpt� I repeated our interest in learning how he chooses his projects. �Ah, well, actually it isn�t nearly as complicated as you might think.� Takes a sip of his drink. �As you might imagine, scripts are submitted on nearly a daily basis to my agent. It would be impossible for me to read them all. Of course, I don�t have to, as I employ a screening process that works wonders.� �And that would be�?� �Well, first and foremost, I only read scripts that are dated with even numbers, like 18, 22, 4 and so on. So anything submitted on an odd-numbered day I don�t even look at. I�ll give you a few examples: A Beautiful Mind, The Phantom Menace, Kate and Leopold, Gangs of New York, all those films were submitted on odd-numbered dates. So, straight away they were eliminated.� �Fascinating!� �Indeed. Now from there, I look at the font.� �Excuse me, did you say, font?� �Yes. You see there are certain fonts I really can�t stand and the idea of memorizing lines printed in any of those is appalling. I really prefer Verdana and Arial; any time I receive a script printed out in those fonts, I read it through straight away. Of course, if the date is right!� He smiles and takes another sip of his cappuccino. �If it is printed in Times New Roman, I toss it in the throw-away pile even if the date is an even number.� �Really?� Mr. Firth nods. �Of course everyone has their little quirks about it all, I suppose mine are about the same as anyone else�s!� �So, what do you do then?� �It�s really not common knowledge, but, I prefer to stay close to my home and my family when I�m working. The next step is to see where the project is to be made. For example, a supporting role in a BBC production to be filmed in and around London will always attract me more than, let�s say, a starring role in the latest Nancy Meyers or Chris Columbus film will. � He nods approving at his last point and waits for my response. �My, my,� is all I can come up with. �Once projects are weeded out for undesirable locations�� �Like Australia, America or Asia?� �Exactly! Once that�s done, at that point it does get a little complicated.� �Oh?� �Yes. From there I have to calculate just how much I am going to make. Or, more importantly, how much my agent will make. You see, he insists on taking a 6-week holiday with his extended family at least once a year. He tells me ahead of time how much he would like to spend on the next one and I find projects that will pay me enough that his cut will cover his expenses. And let me tell you,� he leans in, �that man knows how to spend the cash.� �Wow!� �And that�s just the beginning. With trust funds, mutual funds, college funds, the Inland Revenue, department store credit cards, my personal account at Armani, the decline of the frequent flyer program and the current exchange rates, my fingers are worn to the bone crunching numbers.� The poor man sighs audibly. So do I, in complete sympathy for his situation. I had no idea things were so tough. �Wow!� I say again and ask, �So, is that how you chose The Importance of Being Earnest?� �Oh no! I signed on that project because of the tailor they used! He was a relative of my wife�s!� �So, you chose What a Girl Wants using your criteria?� Mr. Firth chuckles and admits, �Well, no, I actually lost a hand of poker over that one. If I had won I would have done a screen test for the role of Ted Hughes, but I lost so I signed on to WAGW.� �Love Actually?� �Now Love Actually is a funny story. I was signed on as the role of the Prime Minister, but I had a distressing call one night from my friend Hugh. He had a vision, a dream, and he knew he simply had to play the role. I understand things like that completely. I gladly stepped aside and took another role on his behalf.� �You�re such a nice guy!� Mr. Firth smiles modestly and our interview comes to and end.

(Lisa)�If it is printed in Times New Roman, I toss it in the throw-away pile even if the date is an even number.� *still holding sides* just wanted to say, bravo, Lisa. You may be nearer to the truth than we'll ever know;-)

(Moon) So what kind of intelligent questions can we come up with? I don't know if this is intelligent but it is really THE ONLY QUESTION (statement really) for me. You seem to be very passionate about your work, if it's not too private, please tell us how you came to understand what passion is. I would never, ever ask the question. Would also like to know if it is private but you said "head" not "heart" questions.

Hi everyone! I was reading an article today from a British magazine written around a year ago and ODB mentions that his wife is now getting into producing maintream films, not just documentaries. He goes on to say that she is usually the one who will come across a character in a book or that someone sends her something and they go over it. My worst fear is a reality! Sorry but I'm not sure she is the best person for this job. It keeps him close to home and away from the larger American films that could really catapult him into major regognition. I know that she is his wife, but lets face it, she never understood how P&P made him a sex symbol!

(Hola Lola) Colin does not have a personal publicist yet Wouldn't it benefit both Colin and the studio for him to have one? I would think someone from the studio might suggest he get one or perhaps assign him one. Wonder why he doesn't have one. (Dorine) I'd love to see him on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart again. A show off the beaten path. I agree. One of my favorite interviews he did. So relaxed, humorous and spontaneous. IMO much better than most. Maybe he liked Stewart? Definitely liked line of questionning IMO. Wonderful Lisa. ROFL. Agree with Linda, you may be closer to the truth than we want to admit.

(Lisa) You're such a nice guy. Mr. Firth smiles modestly and the interview comes to an end . Very funny Lisa! It's all so clear now. Maybe if we could pay someone to say that he is a nasty so-and-so, we'd find ourselves going to major and frequent premieres

I only read scripts that are dated with even numbers, like 18, 22, 4 and so on. Now from there, I look at the font. I actually lost a hand of poker over that one. If I had won I would have done a screen test for the role of Ted Hughes, but I lost so I signed on to WAGW.� ROTF, Lisa!!! I am looking forward to more questions. I will then put them together and see what everyone thinks. At that point we can add or take away. Plus, there might be other uses for them. ;-D

Lisa...ROTFL!!! (Audiogirl) ODB mentions that his wife is now getting into producing maintream films, not just documentaries.....she is usually the one who will come across a character in a book or that someone sends her something and they go over it. And as of last May, judging by her stated lack of projects on the horizon for her, there obviously had been a lack of decent characters in books to develop projects about. ;-)

(Moon) So what kind of intelligent questions can we come up with? I'm not sure that my question(s) isn't one he hasn't answered already over the years but it's one I don't think I've seen recently. What I'd like to ask is out of all his movies, plays, etc..which role was his hardest to prepare for and to do...mentally, physically, and/or emotionally, and with that, which was the hardest character to let go of?

Ok, I have one.... (How serious do want these? I can word some very to the point, almost to the point of tactlessness, or very informally or downright silly, or quite serious.) (the fairly serious)......Now that you've recently done, or will be doing projects that you'll most likely be very well compensated for....will you go back to the stage in London or even NY? Ever consider Shakespeare in the Park?

Lisa, that was fabulous! I had an absolutely awful day, but you just cheered me right up. (Karen) Depends, if/when he made his commitments for LA and GWAPE. Otherwise, I fear the ship may still be in dry dock. ;-) Well, now, GWAPE did get a decent score on the RF-o-meter, as I recall.... Speaking of the Ted Hughes role, did anybody else see the photo of Gwynnie and DC in Newsweek a couple of weeks ago? The magazine got tossed before I had a chance to save it and post about it. The caption was pretty much all about Gwynnie - DC was almnost an afterthought - but at least his photo was there. Made me v. sad.

(Dorine) Ever consider Shakespeare in the Park? Been there; done that. Have you forgotten the pictures of him doing Richard III? ;-) (Rika) Well, now, GWAPE did get a decent score on the RF-o-meter, as I recall.... He actually could have made the commitments for those before the tugboat SS Spring did its job back in September. I actually lost a hand of poker over that one. This is the one that probably hits closest to home. :-( Great stuff, Lisa!

(Holalola) Colin does not have a personal publicist yet. . From the Sleeping Dogs File. Don't think he wants one either. To be famous means that all your old smelly linen is washed in public, like some very questionable movies showing quite more than you're kids and Italian relatives would be comfortable looking at on the E! channel for the rest of their natural born lives, not to mention there has to be a girl or two in all the pubs of Hackney who could probably sell a true little story for a big amount, if it was about a famous person. (St. Colin does not wash with those looks). How much nicer to be rich, happy and unknown.

How much nicer to be rich, happy and unknown. Never happens! Nevah!

Lisa: I loved your interview. Took me way back to the early Firth days when we had such fun doing stuff like this. Nice to read on a grey day. Mari --- More senior moments re the London agent!!!!!! Sorry. I've got some pictures of DC as Ted H and Gwen on my little Craig site. Former Firth "almost founding member" Lisa W lives in Dunedin NZ and is a drama professor at the local college. She had up close views of the filming for a week or so: http://www.murphsplace.com/craig/hughes.html (Not sure if this link belongs at O&E.)

Yes, it does.

Karen! That cartoon is so funny and so true! LOL! Ladies, let's keep the questions rolling. :-D

Congratulations Hola. What a perfect place for a wedding. Marci lives on Maui.

(Kathleen) Don't think he wants one either. To be famous means that all your old smelly linen is washed in public, like some very questionable movies showing quite more than you're kids and Italian relatives would be comfortable looking at on the E! channel for the rest of their natural born lives, not to mention there has to be a girl or two in all the pubs of Hackney who could probably sell a true little story for a big amount, if it was about a famous person. (St. Colin does not wash with those looks). How much nicer to be rich, happy and unknown. I'd hardly say he's unknown. As for dirt coming out and the "tell all" story gendre. IMO if its there it'll come out with or without publicist. I haven't heard or read any of them if they exist, have you? IMO I think they would certainly have surfaced by now especially after P&P. But was just hoping a publicist would get him Leno and Letterman. He deserves to be there more than some that are there now. Renee and Hugh don't seem to mind doing the higher-profile shows. I honestly feel he wouldn't either. Just want to see him get the credit and notice he so richly deserves.

Question I would want to ask-- ---If your involvement could greenlight any project, however obscure and uncertain as to return, what would you choose to do? This probably has been asked many different ways, but hopefully would get at something he was passionate wait a minute, short mental break---ok... back now) about. Question I would probably ask-- That walk thing you do, can you turn that on and off? Do you even know you do it?

(Pam) I'd hardly say he's unknown. He is, pretty much, an unknown in this country. As for dirt coming out and the "tell all" story gendre. IMO if its there it'll come out Our magazines write about personalities our general public knows. Colin's life is not "news" here. But was just hoping a publicist would get him Leno and Letterman. We went through this during the BJD publicity and for TIOBE. The talent bookers on those shows haven't wanted him. It is NOT a matter of Colin making a choice, they haven't wanted him.

Barb I'll answer your questions: -If your involvement could greenlight any project, however obscure and uncertain as to return, what would you choose to do? Anything Rafe Fiennes is doing. This probably has been asked many different ways, but hopefully would get at something he was passionate wait a minute, short mental break---ok... back now) about. He is only passionate about fatherhood. Question I would probably ask-- That walk thing you do, can you turn that on and off? Do you even know you do it? IRL he *does* walk like that. We've seen him coming out of a cab and noticed his walk before we saw his face.He turns it off,if necessary , for his roles . Except when he comes out to take a curtain call;-)

LOL Great cartoon Karen! (Kathleen)a girl or two in all the pubs of Hackney who could sell a true little story for a big amount. (Pam) I haven't heard or read any of them exist, have you? Please let me clarify. Any "true little story" from any girlfriend could be very valuable to a tabloid for a superstar. The stories also get enhanced and fabricated. Why put yourself through the torment? Pretty clever of him.

�Once projects are weeded out for undesirable locations�� �Like Australia, America or Asia?� LOL! Funny stuff, Lisa! Love the cartoon, Karen. The talent bookers on those shows haven't wanted him. Huh? Since when? I never read that. Ok, Moon, here's a question: Colin, you've been quoted as saying that you've wanted roles that have gone to Ralph Fiennes. What has Ralph done differently than you in terms of his career management, and would you be willing to do similarly if it meant being able to get those caliber of roles?

Huh? Since when? I never read that. I was told that. Remember?

(Moon) so what kind of intelligent questions can we come with? I hope to hear from everyone. :-D Okay, Moon...it was the bit about 'intelligent questions' that had me stumped, had you said silly or stupid I would immediately have had 20. Mine is still a bit silly (and may have been asked/answered), but here goes: Is there one role that you did not take that you deeply regret OR is there a role that you did take that you wish you would have passed on? And why? And then silliness: (1) What's your favorite Beatles song (we have been talking about this all morning at work) (2) What book(s) are you reading right now (the true window to one's soul)? and, (3) Right now, left or right?? (Karen) Hmmm, never got to ask "if Peter was gay?" but we all know the answer to that one now. I don't know! Where do I go to find out?? �If it is printed in Times New Roman, I toss it in the throw-away pile even if the date is an even number.� ROTFL....Damn! So that's what has been happening to my fan letters! Mental note to self to change font. Thanks Lisa! (Evelyn) IRL he *does* walk like that. We've seen him coming out of a cab and noticed his walk before we saw his face. Aughghgh! Lucky!...just to see a cab that he has been in...let alone see him get out...*insert big pouty, envious winkie*

Right now, left or right?? LOL, Tress! I think I'll use that one after a couple of Martinis. Here's an assignment: try that one on your husbands or boyfriends this weekend and see what they say. ;-) And do report back! Keep the questions coming. And yes, intelligent ones. :-D

(audiogirl)I was reading an article today from a British magazine written around a year ago and ODB mentions that his wife is now getting into producing maintream films, not just documentaries. He goes on to say that she is usually the one who will come across a character in a book or that someone sends her something and they go over it. My worst fear is a reality! I can only echo your sentiments and wonder if, at this stage in my life, I have become telepathic! So, my guess would be that while those stinkers he's been in like Conspiracy and even the emsemble piece LA would be coming from his reps, and the real high-profile, well-paying projects that all the top actors are fighting to get like HS and, (don't throw rotten veggies) GWAPE, are the gems that LD has had inspirations over! Well, I could say more but I'm already sounding a little too B****y! Excellent cartoon Karen! (evelyn)IRL he *does* walk like that. We've seen him coming out of a cab and noticed his walk before we saw his face. I'm waiting for that video footage, thanks! ;) Moon, may I ask to what these questions tend? :)

Moon, may I ask to what these questions tend? :) All in good time, Lisa, all in good time. :-)

Well, my original question was a serious one!

(Lisa) the gems that LD has had inspirations over! Well, I could say more but I'm already sounding a little too B****y! Meow! ;-) (Kathleen) St. Colin does not wash with those looks LOL. Wouldn't like to think so actually....naughty can be nice. ;-) (Pam) As for dirt coming out and the "tell all" story gendre. IMO if its there it'll come out with or without publicist. I haven't heard or read any of them if they exist, have you? IMO I think they would certainly have surfaced by now There's so much dirt on some of those people that doesn't come out it would make your head spin.

(Moon Dreams)Keep the questions coming. And yes, intelligent ones. :-D Well, the last note made me erase most of my questions and the rest I had have allready been asked, but perhaps not these variations: Mr. Firth, If you could choose any part in past movies, which would be your choise, and why? Are there any books you have read lately, you think would do well being transformed into movies? And if yes, what will you do to get the part before Hugh Grant comes along? Do you intend to do any audiowork, I'm sure Department of Nothing would be highly in demand! Karen, loved the cartoon. And the left/right question I am definetly not going to pass on to my DH. He is suspecious enough as it is;-) (He refers to ODB as: oh no, not HIM again)

One more question, inspired by the mentioning of not-smoking-pups in Ireland Interviewer (Moon Dreams?):Mr. Firth, Do you smoke? CF: Yes, I must admit, I do. Int.: Well, I'm not glad to hear it. It isn't good for your health, and it would be a slight distraction in a minute, when I'm about to give you your first free kissing-lesson, sponsored by .... (well, you know who). (this, I'm afraid would require, that some of us volunteer to keep LG away from interrupting)

(Dorine) There's so much dirt on some of those people that doesn't come out it would make your head spin. Do tell? New Question... If I said you had a beautiful body would you hold it against me? (Sorry, couldn't resist--serious, she said serious)

Karen Glad to hear you got the kit. The Love Actually one is going to be cool. If I can stick my nose in for one second, I would just like to say that regardless of whether a talent coordinator for a particular show wants or doesn't want Colin is immaterial because the purpose of a personal publicist is to make them WANT him. And I'm afraid that is the element that is missing in some of his publicity. The studio is there to push the film. The PR agent is there to expose his/her client and exploit the promotion of the vehicle (in coordination with the studio) for him to the fullest extent. I've never known Colin to be difficult to work with as far as his obligations in promoting a film. He's always receptive and willing. The only time there was some clever footwork as far as scheduling was when his wife was due to have the baby. He's very professional and never is demanding. Granted there have been times when a particular journalist has been less than stellar in their job yet he never balks (until afterwards when you are driving away and he makes nasty and hilarious comments about the person. I just think that sometimes he's been pigeonholed in the "serious PBS type British actor" slot. It does him a diservice because he's a very well rounded, extremely funny, charming, naughty guy and people don't get to see that. There also seems to be some sort of misconception that he never wants to do chat shows or is super private etc. While he does guard his family life, he is always a good "chatter" when interviewed and is candid. While I am not suggesting that he need be a household name and tabloid fodder, I do think that he gets overlooked for many important and worthwhile projects because he's not a out there enough. That's just the reality of this business and for a talent like his it's a shame for the masses not to be a witness to it. If I can add a last personal note.. don't always believe that his career is based solely on his own choices and desires. Tis not true. And with that, I'll leave you all with a Happy Weekend wish! Take care everyone.

(Mari)What has Ralph done differently than you in terms of his career management, and would you be willing to do similarly if it meant being able to get those caliber of roles *groaning loudly* Great question, but do we really want to hear the answer?

(Lola)....he's a very well rounded, extremely funny, charming, naughty guy... ....until afterwards when you are driving away and he makes nasty and hilarious comments about the person. Nasty?? Naughty?? My heart is just racing...he keeps getting better and better!! ;-) Thanks for dropping in again Lola! You must be v. v. busy right now and it is much appreciated!

(Dorine) There's so much dirt on some of those people that doesn't come out it would make your head spin. (Barb) Do tell? I'm not a gossip columnist....or a hairdresser. ;-) (Lola) because he's a....naughty guy See, I knew it! That's good to hear. ;-D he is always a good "chatter" when interviewed And at parties. Thanks again, Lola! Karen, looking forward fun and interesting stuff from the press kits.

(Lola)...I've never known Colin to be difficult to work with ... He's always receptive and willing....He's very professional and never is demanding. ...he never balks...nasty and hilarious comments...he's a very well rounded, extremely funny, charming, naughty guy.... (After first acknowledging I want to BE you Lola...) I'm very ashamed. She says all this good stuff and I've just lusted for his bod. How shallow is that? Thank you Lola and have a good wedding!

<>(Barb)If I said you had a beautiful body would you hold it against me? ROTFLOL! If you asked him that question, he would probably LOL too because he knows where it is from and would be impressed that you did also. Then since you have him in the right light-hearted mood, I would ask him -because of Lola's interesting comment: (Hola Lola)I'm afraid that is the element that is missing in some of his publicity. Since you would most definitely benefit from one, why don't you hire a really good personal publicist?

(Barb)(After first acknowledging I want to BE you Lola...) My thoughts exactly. (Lola) because he's a....naughty guy I'm with you, Tress. My heart is going to pump right out of my chest. Thank you, Lola. **Double sigh**

(Barb) After first acknowledging I want to BE you Lola... Kudos to you....I didn't have the guts to say it out loud first. ;-) I'm very ashamed. She says all this good stuff and I've just lusted for his bod. How shallow is that? I wallow in my shallowness. Damn proud of it! ;-D Honestly if I didn't think he was extremely talented or the least bit interesting to listen to (or watch walk), he wouldn't seem as hot to me. I do need "brains (and a great sense of humor) behind the brawn", so to speak. Course that didn't explain my attraction to Ricky Martin. ;-)

bugger! bugger!

I've forgotten how to fix myself :(

(Barb) After first acknowledging I want to BE you Lola... (Dorine) Kudos to you....I didn't have the guts to say it out loud first. ;-) ROFLMAO Dorine, don't you know I wanted to be YOU first?! Potted plant and wine with Colin indeed.

Thanks H.L. for the 'honest-to-goodness' info that is more than the speculation we all goof around with here! Oh, to be a bug squashed on the windscreen when that AFG man is driving away. *sigh* BTW, in case you come back before the wedding.....have a terrific time in Maui. :)

(Barb)(After first acknowledging I want to BE you Lola...) Me too. Me too. And Dorine trade places in a second. Wow. Mega handsome, super intelligent, personality plus, excellent sense of humor, and NAUGHTY. Time for a cold shower. Thanks so much Lola. Raised my temperature.

(Lola) afterwards when you are driving away and he makes nasty and hilarious comments about the person. (Barb) Dorine, don't you know I wanted to be YOU first?! Potted plant and wine with Colin indeed. Hey, I could just as easily been one of the targets of his comments without knowing it. Then *I* wouldn't want to be me. Anonymity has its charms. ;-)

(Barb)(After first acknowledging I want to BE you Lola...) I'm very ashamed. She says all this good stuff and I've just lusted for his bod. How shallow is that? Ah, gee, we'll forgive the shallowness m'lovey. If the water gets too deep I'm sure to drown, anyways. ;) (Hola)If I can add a last personal note.. don't always believe that his career is based solely on his own choices and desires. Tis not true. You don't say!

(Tress) Right now, left or right?? (Moon) Here's an assignment: try that one on your husbands or boyfriends this weekend and see what they say. ;-) And do report back! Since I have neither, can I do general "man in the street" interviews? ;-)

(BarbS)If I said you had a beautiful body would you hold it against me? (Sorry, couldn't resist--serious, she said serious) LOL - this was on my list as well. And I seriously would like an answer, involving no words, just action! After all the not so good comments on his agent in London, I have another question: Do you read and answer your own fanmail, or is it delegated to others? (Hola)he's a very well rounded, extremely funny, charming, naughty guy Ding-dong - my kind of man! Thank you Hola, for the report.

Just to add a few more personal tidbits, from my past correspondence with a sound recordist on many of CF's films, that Mr. Firth loves practical jokes, is a wicked imitator of people, and does the Guardian crossword puzzle every day. Thanks, HL, for your insights, particularly this one: While I am not suggesting that he need be a household name and tabloid fodder, I do think that he gets overlooked for many important and worthwhile projects because he's not a out there enough. That's just the reality of this business and for a talent like his it's a shame for the masses not to be a witness to it.

(Hola) regardless of whether a talent coordinator for a particular show wants or doesn't want Colin is immaterial because the purpose of a personal publicist is to make them WANT him. And I'm afraid that is the element that is missing in some of his publicity. The studio is there to push the film. And, since the last studio to publicize his films was Miramax, need I say more? He got on the morning shows and some cable, but they struck out on late night. I don't disagree with anything you've said about the process, but *this* particular studio has a rather pathetic record in publicizing its art house films. It's always looked to me like a new-born foal, getting up on its own legs. I've never known Colin to be difficult to work with as far as his obligations in promoting a film. He's always receptive and willing. That's been apparent. While I am not suggesting that he need be a household name and tabloid fodder, I do think that he gets overlooked for many important and worthwhile projects because he's not a out there enough. That's just the reality of this business and for a talent like his it's a shame for the masses not to be a witness to it. Amen. People forget there is a middle ground between the two, nor are the "worthwhile" projects all big budget action flicks either. Not what we crave. Thanks Hola. Feel free to stick a toe in next time. Any body part will do; we're not picky. ;-)

I'm posting this here because of the Vermeer/quasi-GWAPE connection. There's a movie on CBS at 9:00 Sunday called Brush With Fate that sounds intriguing. Here's the TV Guide write-up: Every picture tells a story. An excellent performance by Glenn Close highlights this 2003 Hallmark Hall of Fame drama based on Susan Vreeland's bestselling novel, Girl in Hyacinth Blue. Teacher Cornelia Englebrecht (Close) has spent her life researching a painting in her possession, which she attributes to Dutch artist Johannes Vermeer. She normally keeps it hidden, but unveils it to a new colleage (Thomas Gibson) because she senses he can share her appreciatiaton for the masterpiece. When asked for proof of its authenticity, Cornelia launches into a detailed account of its previos owners, including an 18th centruy socialite (Ellen Burstyn) and a Jewish family during the German occupation of Amsterdam. ************ Am wondering if Vreeland's book preceeded GWAPE? Will have to look it up. Film also features Kelly MacDonald, CF's daughter in MLSF and of Gosford Park fame.

Aloha hola lola or Hola lola aloha (Cannot say either one) Please continue to confuse us with the real world. Love it! In praise of Helen Fielding, Queen of Drool. Instead of curmudgeoning about a lack of good parts for CF, she went ahead and wrote one, which conveniently could not be portrayed by anyone else. The woman nailed it!!!! Also managed to "interview" him for a fictional part of her second book. You go girl!!!!! Now, we have a lot of very talented individuals here at Drool. Is it possible that we could do the same for CF? We could keep ourselves busy on this for quite a while. New work or adaptation? Comedy or drama? Type of role? Search for adaptation. Who to target it to? Studio? Director? Co-stars? Then write the screenplay. Does anyone know how to do that? How desperate are we to see him in a good role before he starts taking Amanda Byrne's grandfather parts. Of course, the way we like to dissect things he could be that old before we finished it. What do you think?

Oh, so that's what you were talking about, Mari. Yes, Vreeland's book preceded GWAPE by a long time, as I recall, and I did read how they were filming it.

(kathleen)Is it possible that we could do the same for CF? We could keep ourselves busy on this for quite a while. New work or adaptation? Comedy or drama? Type of role? Oh, I'll have a go Adaptation Drama Agent/Spy/Journalist...mysterious, sexy, naughty(now that we know he is...:-) Studio...anyone except Miramax Co Stars...anyone except Heather Graham, Ruth Gemmell Target audience...anyone over 17, please, please, please! Director...I'll leave that to the experts.

(Tress) Right now, left or right?? (Moon) Here's an assignment: try that one on your husbands or boyfriends this weekend and see what they say. ;-) And do report back! (Dorine) Since I have neither, can I do general "man in the street" interviews? ;-) Ohhh...please do! I'll have bail money ready!! ;-D (Mary Murphy) Mr. Firth loves practical jokes, is a wicked imitator of people, and does the Guardian crossword puzzle every day. Thanks Mary! I love this type of stuff...I think I remember hearing that he is often the brunt of the practical jokes as well (something about being a trout, I recall...). Good to hear he does crosswords! (lindak) Co Stars...anyone except Heather Graham, Ruth Gemmell Director...I'll leave that to the experts. LOL.....psssst....Linda, a certain "writer/director/actor" of a certain HBO show that was recently cancelled should be excluded from future projects. And can we add a 'pony clause'...as in, requiring that ODB, while STARRING in the Adapted, Drama regarding an Agent/Spy/Journalist, must ride a mighty fine horse while being mysterious, sexy and naughty? That would set me up for life!

(Linda) Agent/Spy/Journalist...mysterious I'm on record as pro this one since about 1997. ;-) Pssst! Remember, we're on the CF board, not man on the street or spousal R-L discussions

And can we add a 'pony clause'...as in, requiring that ODB, while STARRING in the Adapted, Drama regarding an Agent/Spy/Journalist, must ride a mighty fine horse while being mysterious, sexy and naughty? That would set me up for life! That'll do it for me to. Just - it would have to be a horse of a certain size (height, I mean) - not one of those small, wild animals, he rode in Nostromo. Could we add a singing part? (wantet to type this with very small font, but couldn't remember how to, and didn't have the time to check AT). (lindak) Co Stars...anyone except Heather Graham, Ruth Gemmell Running away, covering my head to protect me from any slapping, I must say, that I liked RG in FP. IMHO all the of the cast was very good.

The Advocate is going to be released on dvd July 3rd.

From the BBC1 Best TV Moments for 2002: "...The best moment in TV drama was judged to be in the BBC2 film "Conspiracy" where Nazi generals outlined their plans for the Holocaust." http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=772&e=1&cid=597&u=/nm/20030201/tv_nm/arts_britain_comedy_dc

(lindak)Oh,I'll have a go.Agent,spy,jounalist,mysterious,sexy,naughty. (tress)And can we add a pony clause? (annette)Could we add a singing part? Right off ,can see how CF could be conflicted in choosing roles if he has been getting our ideas telepathically.;-) But, Here goes, key words, thriller, horse, singing in Amazon.com search yields: Master Butcher Singing Club by Louise Edrich - about A German WWI sniper and Master Butcher with talent for stillness and singing who moves to North Dakota, spans 36 years, haunting love. Think that darn Dan Day Lewis already beat us to it. Will keep searching, any more ideas?

(Annette)Running away, covering my head to protect me from any slapping Never run away. FP is one of my all time favorites. I just wish there had been more on screen chemistry with his co star. But, I don't think Paul's character really called for the out-of-this-world fireworks anyway. One can dream, though.

Just a quick question....it seems as though (fingers crossed!) there could be four CF movies opening in the US in the next 9 months (HS, WAGW, LA and GWAPE). How many screens do you think each will get, and how will this compare with MLSF 30?)and TIOBE (70 plus?)

In Sunday's "Vancouver Province" below a picture of Colin Test Pilots News item: Midway through the TV season, the six U.S. networks have failed to produce a single breakout sitcom hit among them. You guys have spent too much time in boardrooms and at deal-making lunches. The funny stuff of life is all around us, just waiting to be barked out in 30-minute chunks to the sound of canned laughter .... "Tony & Dubya": Odd-couple comedy at its best as a British former leftie (Colin Firth) settles in with his new pal, a trigger-happy Texan (Matthew McConaughey), who can't figure out which button turns on the stereo. Watch the confusion as Tony comes out of the bathroom with a towel around his wet hair, only to be thrown to the floor and bushwacked. ... The article goes on with several other suggested sitcoms.

British former leftie (Colin Firth) settles in with his new pal, a trigger-happy Texan (Matthew McConaughey), LOL! I don't see that at all! Why don't they just call it the "Gay Odd Couple"? That would be a different break for both actors. I would hate it, but I'm sure it would be popular both with males and females. Might even win all the awards that Will & Grace show have. Of course, it would have to be made in London. ***Ladies, you have been neglecting the questions.*** I know you can come up with questions that Colin might actually answer, so let's get thinking. :-D

I have quickly come up with these: If you were offered a role in an Italian film, would you do it? Do you speak Italian fluently? You are known to enjoy practical jokes, and are a wicked imitator of people, who deserves to be your next victim? Do you still do the Guardian crossword puzzle every day? We've read your story. Have you ever considered buying the rights to a book and doing the adaptation? (Why not?) *heehee* We can never forget that image of you on the horse in P&P. Have you had formal horse back-riding lessons? Do you still ride? With the Musical making a comeback, how good a dancer are you? Can you cha-cha and rumba?

OK putting on my interviewer hat. Do you have other aspirations outside of acting? Do you have plans to pursue them? How do you feel about the press and the paparazzi's intrusive behaviour? Are there times when you and your family have been treated badly? What is your idea of a perfect day? Do you have someone you regard as a mentor? Do you feel safe living in London during these uncertain times? Have you changed anything about your way of life in wake of the recent events from the past year and a half? Are you a frequent internet user? What are your favourite sites? How has the selection of the roles you chose changed over the years? For an actor, do you believe that comedy is a more difficult genre than drama? Will try and think of more......still waiting for the why in all of this. ;)

(sandyw) Odd couple comedy at it's best as a British former leftie (Colin Firth) settles in with his new pal. (Tress) Right now, left or right? . There's your answer Tress!

(Kathleen)There's your answer Tress! LOL, v.g. observation indeed!!!!!! Questions for CF: Someone noticed your sons name in the castlist for Spiderman. Would you like to do a movie with him one day? Are there any parts you wish you hadn't taken and vise versa: have you been offered any parts you turned down, and now wish you had acceptet? How many languages to you speak? Do you know any other danish words beside: Jeg er konge af Danmark, og jeg kan lide jordb�r (I am the king of Denmark, and I like strawberrys)? (adm. note, from Hostages, remember?). (Lisa)Will try and think of more......still waiting for the why in all of this. ;) me too! Are we still to keep the questions serious? I guess that would mean, that all our fantasies belongs in the firthology-topic?

Here's one, but I don't know if he'll answer If you could pick your next female co star, who would it be? And... Since three of your past co-stars have been Americans doing British accents,(RZ, GP, and RW) how would you rate them as far as best British accent by an American? (could add stick insect, but I won't)

One more: Theres been all this talk about James Bond lately. Please tell us, if you were offered the part, would you take it? If you did, who would you prefer to play "the Bond-girl"? Where would your limit be, as to use a bodydouble? I mean, how far would you go? (okay, enough - off to Bedfordshire or at least another topic more appropriate for these kind of questions/speculations)

Questions... How often do you call your mother? You wrote the limerick Daniel said in BJD...was that the work of a moment or do you enjoy that kind of thing? Do you have others?

Did anyone watch Brush With Fate tonight? I was surprised that Vermeer himself was part of the story, along with Maria Thins, Catharina, and the children. Here's a link to some scenes, so you can see how Vermeer and his world were portrayed. Beautifully photographed, the film was shot mostly on location in Holland: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/movies_specials/mas_brush_with_fate.shtml/

(Bethan)How many screens do you think each will get, and how will this compare with MLSF 30?)and TIOBE (70 plus?) WAGW and HS are both listed as "wide" releases, and that generally means anything over 1,000 screens, and could be as high as 2,000 or 2,500. I have to say, for a supposedly wide release, Disney hasn't done much yet in the way of promotion yet; no trailer, no poster, nothing. LA, I predict, will get a nice wide release; Richard Curtis's films always do well here, plus Universal is releasing and they do a great job of showcasing and marketing their films. GWAPE--anybody's guess. Lion's Gate is the distributor and they are noted for small, art house type releases, although if it can get early critical support, it can take off. Monster's Ball was Lion's Gate; that started very slowly but eventually made it to well over 1,000 screens. I think MB was the exception, though. TIOBE got to about 200 screens eventually. As a compare, I think BJD got up to 2,000 or thereabouts.

There's apparently an article on CF and one with Heather Graham in the February 10 issue of Australian New Woman's magazine. Lisa, can you get hold of this? Here's Variety's review of Brush With Fate. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=596&ncid=791&e=4&u=/nm/20030131/review_nm/review_television_fate_dc

FYI, I got these definitions from a doc dated 2002: . Platform Release: A film released in a small number of cities and then broadened incrementally toward a limited or medium release as critical acclaim builds. . Limited Release: A film released in less than 700 theaters. . Medium Release: A film released in 700 to 1500 theaters in the U.S. . Wide Release: A film released in 1500 to 3000 or more theaters. GWAPE is going to be art house, platformed with a small start, 100-200 screens. LA will be v. wide, but rom-coms aren't put on the 3000+ screens, like action, sci-fi or dumb teenage movies. Plus it is a mainly Brit rom-com, which will hold it down. No Reese Witherspoon or J-Lo. It will be a healthy number though, probably around 2000. I anticipate a very wide release for WAGW, but I can't believe HS will be on 1500 screens. (Actually, I had heard anything over 800 qualified as "wide.") (Mari) I think MB was the exception, though. Yeah, anything with a nekkid Halle Berry. ;-)

Okay Moon...a few more questions: (1) Is there a character that you would like play that you have not yet played? (2) Which character was the most difficult for you to portray and why? (3) Of all the characters you have played, which is closest to how you see yourself? (4) When you do your Guardian crossword puzzles do you use a pen or pencil?

Re: Brush with Fate Thought it was pretty mundane and fortunately would bear no likeness to GWAPE; entirely different premise. However, Phylida Law made a great Maria Thins and the woman who played Catharina looked very much like Essie Davis. (I have another comment, but will put it on 168.) ;-)

OK, I'm going out in about an hour and will hit the market. I'm glad you told me though as these gossipy things only stay around for a week. And with a date of Feb 10, may have already been out for a while. At least New Women's Mag is a little higher end that that other one.....:)

Questions I would enjoy asking ODB: How do you see your job as related to the storytelling tradition? What do you think are the goals of a young actor, a middle-aged actor and an older actor? You were born in England but have spent a lot of time in America. What are the most fascinating differences or similiarities you have noticed? What interview question/answer have you thought of but never been asked?

BarbS - Colin didn't write the limerick - he just suggested it for that scene. That limerick's been around for donkey's... NEWS FLASH! There is a great show on the ABC (Australia's version of the BBC) on Friday nights called "The Fat", and this week, Michael Parkinson is guesting on the show. I have managed to get myself two tickets to the studio audience for the LIVE taping of "The Fat" -- you can bet your bootie that I'll be asking Parkie a very pointed question, given half a chance!! "When are you going to interview CF??" Wish me luck! It's a pretty informal atmosphere at the tapings (I've been to one before), so there is a possibility that I might get the chance to talk to Parkie, either before or after the taping. Oh! And if anyone wants the other ticket, it hasn't yet been spoken for - drop me an email! You've got to be able to make it to the ABC studios in Gore Hill by 7pm on Friday.

From me to you! (I just found out, that BBCPrime shows Parkinsons. What a treat, it would be).

Question for Colin: Since Australia is becoming such a popular film location (due to excellent new facilities, a great exchange rate and a burgeoning film industry), would you consider doing a shoot in Australia? Hey, a girl can dream, can't she?? ;-)

OK I went, I hunted, I found the NW magazine for Feb 10. There are three separate bits about CF in this magazine, which I think is unusual for these type of publications. While I don't buy them, I do flip through them when I'm getting my hair "done" and have see very little ever about him. BTW, before I tell you these bits, I saw an old mag from June just the other day, when TIOBE was released here, featuring an interview with FOC. First, I was surprised she was in her mid-thrities. Second, she made a very nice comment about how generous CF was to work with. The only other actor mentioned was JD, the Dame! OK, the three bits. Two of them are on a double page spread for new DVD releases. 1) TIOBE has a nice big box as it is featured as "Video of the Week"! The big pic at the top is of RE and RW but the smaller one is CF and RE in their tuxedos. Colin is mentioned first in the review and, surprisingly the only other actor mentioned is RE. They give it four out of five stars. And ask at the end: Did you know RE was classically trained on the piano by Benedictine monks? Well, gosh, no, I didn't! 2) Next page, big box. Head shot of CF in dark suit, white shirt, few bits of hair straggling down in the front. Headline: 10 THINGS YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT......Colin Firth Star of the Importance of Being Earnest And it lists ten things, but funnily enough, I knew them all! ;) Won't list them except to say #10 was that he missed out on a role with GP for the upcoming....well you all know that story! 3) Buried in the back of the mag, where they have pages of shorts on all sorts of people: Heather Graham has revealed how to get her to say yes to a date--ask her while it's raining! The actress has only good things to say of her cute Hope Springs co-star Colin Firth explaining, "I'd never met him before but he's a very sexy guy. He's got that kind of British gentleman sex appeal. And I do remember the first day we met, he was carrying this umbrella and he just seemed like the kind of guy who'd walk you down the street holding an umbrella over your head. I don't know why but that's very sexy to me. Actually Heather, it's called manners. But that's ok, I'm sure if that AFG man was holding an umbrella over me it would make my manners fly out the window and I'd be thinking 'sexy' too! ;)

You too can sport a Make Trade Fair t-shirt as worn by Colin, coming soon to the Oxfam site: http://www.maketradefair.com/mtftshirts.asp

Ladies, I think we also should give him some specific questions on his movies too such as: Do you air-guitar in front of a mirror often? Or is that something you came up with just for WAGW? Here are the questions so far, but I think we will have to edit. I'm wondering if you could talk us through your selection process when choosing a new project? From start to finish, as it were, to really get an idea of the steps that are involved when a professional actor of your standing finally commits to his next role? You seem to be very passionate about your work, how do you choose your projects? Out of all your roles, which role was his hardest one to prepare for and to do...mentally, physically, and/or emotionally? Which was the hardest character to let go of? Now that you've recently done, or will be doing projects that you'll most likely be very well compensated for....will you go back to the stage in London? If your involvement could green-light any project, however obscure and uncertain as to its monetary return, what would you choose to do? You've been quoted as saying that you've wanted roles that have gone to Ralph Fiennes. Has that changed? And, what would you be willing to do to get those roles? Is there one role that you did not take that you deeply regret? And, is there a role that you did take that you wish you would have passed on? And why? What's your favorite Beatles song? Who is your favorite group? What book(s) are you reading right now? Are there any books you have read lately, you think would do well as movies? Do you have other aspirations outside of acting? Do you have plans to pursue them? How do you feel about the press and the paparazzi's intrusive behaviour? Are there times when you and your family have been treated badly? What is your idea of a perfect day? Do you have someone you regard as a mentor? Do you feel safe living in London during these uncertain times? Have you changed anything about your way of life in wake of the recent events from the past year and a half? Are you a frequent internet user? What are your favorite sites? How has the selection of the roles you chose changed over the years? For an actor, do you believe that comedy is a more difficult genre than drama? Someone noticed your sons name in the cast list for Spiderman. Would you like to do a movie with him one day? Are there any parts you wish you hadn't taken and vise versa: have you been offered any parts you turned down, and now wish you had accepted? If you could pick your next female co star, who would it be? There's been all this talk about James Bond lately. Please tell us, if you were offered the part, would you take it? If you did, who would you prefer to play "the Bond-girl"? Is there a character that you would like play that you have not yet played? Which character was the most difficult for you to portray and why? Of all the characters you have played, which is closest to how you see yourself? How do you see your job as related to the storytelling tradition? What do you think are the goals of a young actor, a middle-aged actor and an older actor? You were born in England but have spent a lot of time in America. What are the most fascinating differences or similarities you have noticed? If you were offered a role in an Italian film, would you do it? Do you speak Italian fluently? You are known to enjoy practical jokes, and as a wicked imitator of people, who deserves to be your next victim? Do you still do the Guardian crossword puzzle every day? We've read your short story. Have you ever considered buying the rights to a book and doing the adaptation? Why not? We can never forget that image of you on the horse in P&P. Have you had formal horse back-riding lessons? Do you still ride? With the musical making a comeback, how good a dancer are you? Can you cha-cha and rumba?

Questions for ODB... 1. Do you cook? If so, what do enjoy cooking? Does this change when you are in Italy vs. England? 2. Do you enjoy wine and if so, what varietals? 3. What was your last life epiphany? 4. Do you have any pets? 5. List the top 5 books you have ever read? 6. Is it difficult for you to observe your brother's struggle for success?

Thanks, Lisa, for typing up the magazine's contents. Am trying to picture Colin with an umbrella ;-) (Maria) 6. Is it difficult for you to observe your brother's struggle for success? Cruel, v. cruel. ;-)

(Jane)you can bet your bootie that I'll be asking Parkie a very pointed question, given half a chance!! "When are you going to interview CF??" Oooh, good luck, Jane! Would love to see Parkie interview Colin. Let us know how you make out. (Lisa)Won't list them except to say #10 was that he missed out on a role with GP for the upcoming....well you all know that story! Argh. That one is gonna follow him. Moon, please add that to the list of questions. The actress has only good things to say of her cute Hope Springs co-star Colin Firth Hmmm. Sounds like we're in for a slew of articles wherein HG gushes over ODB. Good, I like those kinds of articles! Many thanks for getting the mag and filling us in, Lisa!:-)

(Maria) 6. Is it difficult for you to observe your brother's struggle for success? (Karen) Cruel, v. cruel. ;-) God, I did'nt mean it to be!! (putting on my shameface)..I guess I just thought it must be difficult for 2 siblings to both be in the same business for so many years, and for one to have reached a certain level (not high enough for us, certainly!) of success and the other to be relatively unknown...I know it would prey on my mind were it my family...

(Maria)I know it would prey on my mind were it my family... I understand what you meant, perhaps another way to word it is like the question about whether he would make a movie with his son. Would he consider making a movie with his brother, Jonathan, who received good reviews for his portrayal of Prince Albert in "Victoria and Albert" on A&E?

From the 31 Jan Evening Standard, an article on celebrities turned writers: Squeezing in time between his award-winning role in Cabaret on Broadway and parts in blockbusters such as Spy Kids, Alan Cumming, 38, is set to become the Rupert Everett of the literary world with his novel Tommy's Tale. Tommy is a handsome, hedonistic gay man who decides he wants a baby. Alan may be pitching himself as the gay Nick Hornby, but we can't see Hugh Grant or Colin Firth turning up in the film role.

(Jane Scott) BarbS - Colin didn't write the limerick - he just suggested it for that scene. That limerick's been around for donkey's... Thanks for setting me straight, I'm entirely too willing to admire any talent of ODB's, apparently even those he does not actually possess. I also obviously need to get out more!

I was flipping through a friend's magazine yesterday, and happened on an ad for, get this: Vermeer Dutch Chocolate Liqueuer. Here's the description listed on internetwines.com: "This 17 percent alcohol liqueur, which is a blend of Dutch chocolate, vodka and cream takes its name from the 17 th century Dutch painter Johannes Vermeer. The bottle, which is embossed with the artist's signature, features the painting Girl with a Pearl Earring, considered Vermeer's most famous work. SKYY Vodka founder Maurice Kanbar began working on creating the perfect chocolate cream liqueur nearly four years ago. Vermeer was made with an attention to detail and disregard for expense that is unusual today. Since the first priority was to use the smoothest, richest chocolate in the world, Maurice chose real Dutch chocolate, despite the fact that its expense persuades most manufacturers to settle for chocolate flavorings. He then added fresh dairy cream, also from the Netherlands and - not surprisingly - premium vodka. The result is a chocolate cream liqueur that is unmatched in smoothness and pure chocolate flavor." Sounds like an excellent choice for the GWAPE premiere party, no? Gawd, CF & chocolate alcohol; what more could a girl ask for? (well, I could think of a few, lol)

Must try that Vermeer Dutch Chocolate Liqueuer. ;-) Thanks, moonstar. (Mari), Argh. That one is gonna follow him. Moon, please add that to the list of questions. I've done enough interviews with rockstars and actors to know that we might turn him off if we ask certain questions. Putting him down or asking him something about Ted Hughes or Ralph Fiennes, might cross a line. Don't you think? I can't imagine Colin getting into a long answer as to what happened with the Ted Hughes role, when he has more important questions to answer such as "Do you cha-cha?" :-)

I agree that we need more ?'s about his roles, past present and future, and had been looking to our leader, since she has to be one of the best around for that, to throw some out! ;)

Um... Moon Dreams? What was wrong with the question about shooting a film in Australia?? Why didn't it make the list? I really was serious about that question....

(Jane) What was wrong with the question about shooting a film in Australia?? LOL! That's probably why he didn't even bother doing the screen test for the Ted Hughes/Syliva Plath movie once a new director took over (a woman from NZ!) and they decided to shoot some of it there. ;-)

(Moon) asking him something about Ted Hughes or Ralph Fiennes, might cross a line. Don't you think? The Fiennes question is in direct response to comments he himself has made. And the one on Hughes is in response to something that is being widely reported. If it's not true--and some here think it's not--then he may welcome the chance to set the record straight. Whatever. Ok, I'll lob him some safe ones: 1. Who do you feel are the top actors and actresses working in films today? 2. If all other things were equal (script quality, caliber of director, size of role, money, location, etc.) and you had to choose between a drama and a comedy, which would you choose and why? 3. Do you know . . . where the toilets are? **Oozing intelligence . . . am intellectual equal of everyone here** ;-)

What is it about the word "naughty" that just works on so many levels? I think this horse is starting to smell pretty bad by now, but imho, I'm glad he didn't do Ted Hughes. Although the drama would have been great, the man (TH) himself was really a bit of a bstrd. Being a shallow little fan, I'd just as soon not see him in roles where I loath the character. Odd is okay, but nasty and slimy kind of bother me. Again, just my shallow opinion. (I'm sure that from a dramatic role point of view, TH would have been great, but I can't get past my opinion of the man.) Re: question (I think most of the good ones have been posted here now by far more clever and creative souls than I, but . . .) I really enjoyed your short story, and wonder if you plan on doing any more writing that you may share with the world? Also, have you given any thought at all to writing your own screenplay?

(Lola) he's a...naughty guy (Tress) Naughty?? My heart is just racing...he keeps getting better and better!! ;-) (Dorine) See, I knew it! That's good to hear. ;-D (LindaK) I'm with you, Tress. My heart is going to pump right out of my chest. (FanPam) NAUGHTY. Time for a cold shower. Lola, did you have any idea the ruckus you would create by calling CF "naughty", LOL! Quite warm in here, actually. :) Thanks for all the info! I'm sure you are insanely busy right now; hope you have a beautiful wedding...

(meg)...have you given any thought at all to writing your own screenplay? And, would you consider collaborating on one? I can make myself avaiable evenings and weekends! Okay Moon...since this is all cloak and dagger, I'm assuming you've got a friend of a friend of CF's dry cleaner, who is going to slip these into his jacket pocket. Seriously, delete any/all of my questions. I was rattling them off a la my 60 Minutes style, when you go into one of those live chats and you have to just keep throwing out the questions to get the moderator to pick up even a few to pose to the guest. If you are really getting these to someone who may put them in CF's hand, pick the ones that might tweak his interest.

Don't you worry, ladies, we will be sifting through all of these, editing them, refining them, etc. Dry cleaners, indeed! ;-)

(Moon)I've done enough interviews with rockstars and actors to know that we might turn him off if we ask certain questions (Karen)Don't you worry, ladies, we will be sifting through all of these, editing them, refining them, etc...Dry cleaners, indeed! ;-) "We" is the operative word here, ladies. When do "We" leave to go and ask these questions?? Time to come clean, we want to know!!!!!:-)

No one is leaving, linda, and it's too soon to say anymore. I've just started to collect the questions. ;-D ( Jane), Moon Dreams? What was wrong with the question about shooting a film in Australia?? Why didn't it make the list? I really was serious about that question.... You posted that one today, the list you read were the questions I collected earlier. Patience please! I suggest everyone copy the list that I posted. Some of the questions can sound rather repetitive. As Karen said we will be sifting through all of these, editing them, refining them.

(Mari), The Fiennes question is in direct response to comments he himself has made. And the one on Hughes is in response to something that is being widely reported. If it's not true--and some here think it's not--then he may welcome the chance to set the record straight. He can set the record straight with The NY Times or The D. Telegraph, I'm sure. Those are questions we would all like answered, but we should give him some safe ones on our first try.

Exactly Karen, it's a minefield out there!

Regarding Department of Nothing, I remember having read something a while back of some of the shortstorys were to be performed on stage as, was it monologues? Does any of you clever and wellinformed people know, what became of that, and whether DoN was among them? (Jane)Um... Moon Dreams? What was wrong with the question about shooting a film in Australia?? Why didn't it make the list? I really was serious about that question.... I guess it went the same way as my questioning if he knows any other danish, than the King and strawberry part. I had my own little dream of CF performing Hamlet in Denmark. He was a danish prince, you know, but I also seem to remember, that Kenneth Brannagh have allready been there, done that ;-( And as Linda says, I would also like to know !!!

Sorry to sound impatient, I'm so slow at typing my post, that some have allready been answered. But I also agree, that if we really get "our" first try, we should try and make sure it wouldn't be the last.

(Moon)He can set the record straight with The NY Times or The D. Telegraph, They wouldn't be sharp enough to ask.;-) we should give him some safe ones on our first try I didn't even post my really tough questions! LOL! This is fine. Moon, you have to understand that I started out in the newspaper biz, working for an editor who made Lou Grant look like a wuss. So when someone mentions interview questions, I fall back into pit bull mode.;-) You ladies do whatever you feel is best.

(Mari)I didn't even post my really tough questions! LOL! LOL.Ditto. I'll save my zingers til the next round;-))