...and I guess that would be me. Before our comments were consigned to LimboLand, we had just started a discussion on that spot on your tape that is worn so thin you're afraid it will break next time you freeze frame. For me it was the look at Lizzy after the bath. For others it was that LOOK and the kiss. Anyone care to continue this discussion and also tell us why your tape is so thin there?

Technical difficulty;-) is that what she's called now:) hee hee. Sorry,had to do it the devil made me actually!

Well, there can't be too much Darcy drooling in my book. Glad to see our man FD merits two topics! Actually I have already given my opinions on the moments with greatest freeze frame potential but I had to see if my lap top would cooperate and let me post. I am drooling from afar in Singapore tonight but am still keeping up with your lively discussions. Ain't technology grand?

Is this the look?

Oooh, sweetie, sweetie, sweetie, you got it. And my tape looks even grainier at this spot than this photo. This is Darcy unmasked...confusion, curiousity, longing. I like this from the essay, Mr. Darcy's Body: Privileging the Female Gaze by Lisa Hopkins in the book Jane Austen Goes to the Movies - "Once again, he looks at her, and we look at him."

"Once again, he looks at her, and we look at him." ] Yah, we always look at him! Cool photo, Karen. But what about the one right before the valet puts the robe on him:) hee hee. Darcy in full glory. (well almost)

Mine is the Netherfield Ball dance . . . .I could watch that dance 1000 times and not get enough (slurp!!) I have watched it a thousand times! You all are doing a mighty fine job here. Sorry I don't post very often. For Nat, I shall try to continue the "First Time," though I think I have lost my momentum . . . Have not looked at either one for quite a while. Nice to be able to lurk every now and then!!

yeah, stefanie and you have a french little picnic you have to attend to as well:) We have not forgotten Summer Masquerade Ball:)

Please Stefanie, we have been v.v. patient!

I love the look he has when he returns to the music room after everyone has gone to bed at Pemberley. He is beautiful here, the look of love and rememberance on his face as he recalls the look they exchamged makes me melt and run off under the coffee table.

My tape starts running thin....as Lizzie and the Gardiners are approaching Pemberley in the carriage...they cross over the bridge (full symbollism...she is crossing over to his lifestyle etc.) and the look on her face as she gazes at Pemberley for the first time is charming...then of course the rest of the Pemberley event develops..walking up the stairs together...when D. asks Lizzie to meet his sister..."Am I asking too much of you....." Sigh, sigh.

I've been "lurking" and reading for ages and finally figured out how this thing works! I'd have to agree with Stefanie for favorite moments...the Netherfield Ball, when their hands first touch 8)

Definitely the Netherfield Ball. .....and the quiet dark walk of remembrance to the music room after all are gone.....and most especially at the Lambton Inn when he rises to greet her. That look in his eyes!!! Welcome back Stefanie! It is lonely without you!!!

(Andrea)I've been "lurking" and reading for ages and finally figured out how this thing works Welcome Andrea, Glad to have you join us. Now that you figured out the procedure,I hope you go to #98 and join us in the discussion of DUTCH GIRLS starting Nov. 22nd. The more , the merrier ;-)

Oooh, Dutch Girls?! I have not seen that yet, though I think I have it. I am here to invite all you lurking Darcyians over to 113 to claim and exclaim over your Keepsake. Please!!!

Welcome, Andrea. So glad you figured out how to post. Now if you could only figure out why we're so mired in this Darcy drool. A most pleasing diversion though. I agree that the electricity is felt by more than just E&D when their hands first touch at the Netherfield ball. I just thought of another spot on my tape that's in danger of breaking...and Darcy's not even in it. Love when Lizzy tells her father "I love him" when she explains her feelings toward Darcy. Giving all due credit to Davies for honoring JA's portrayal of Elizabeth's restrained proposal acceptance, wouldn't you have loved to hear her tell Darcy she loved him?

Oops! Forgot another favorite (true, these could go on indefinitely)! Just after Elizabeth reads Jane's letter and Darcy arrives. There's that brief moment when he helps her sit down, asks about calling a doctor...meanwhile he's holding her hand, just for a moment. I don't know how proper this would be in this time period , but I love it and my tape will wear thin catching that moment!

Love that walk down the dark hallway after all have gone to bed. He tries to supress smiles so charmingly...he is just too cute!!! That walk and the stare he gives Lizzie as he sees her coming into the room at the Lambton Inn as he awaits the introduction of her to his sister. That look beggars all wordsw, but it gets me right there! My tape is not thin there, but that part where Lizzie tells her father how much she loves him is her prettiest and most exalted moment. Surpasses all of her other scenes by miles.

Sheesh...sorry about repeating myself. At least I'm consistent!!!

(Andrea)There's that brief moment when he helps her sit down, asks about calling a doctor...meanwhile he's holding her hand, just for a moment. Known as "The Hand-Fondling Scene"....my fave too, Andrea. (You know, he just wants to put his arms around her.)

Me too!! Me too!!!!!

At the risk of adding a February 7, 2036 date here (it's infecting the other topics!), another thin spot I recall - I'm forever trying to freezeframe my tape at the spot where Darcy & Elizabeth are in the same shot as she walks by him wearing that little smirk after she's heard him "dissing" her at the Assembly. That moment where both their expressions are seen at once is so elusive. I also like to get both of them in the same shot when he is handing her into the carriage at Pemberley but that's a littl easier. Yes, Marcia, love the walk down the hallway at Pemberley even if my mother insists on saying he walks like a farmer(!!). Such a satisfied expression on his pretty mouth. Forgive me but another thought just came to me too. I also like at the Inn at Lambton when Darcy bows as he leaves E & Georgiana alone to fetch Bingley. He turns away but don't you think Elizabeth watches after him just a second too long before turning her attentions back to G.?

(Heide)Re: Inn at Lambton when D. leaves to fetch Bingley. He turns away but don't you think Elizabeth watches after him just a second too long before turning her attentions back to G.? I've noticed that too, Heide.Ever so subtle, Lizzie's juices are certainly starting to flow!

Ummmm,Indeed she does. And then rather disinterestedly she turns back to Bingley who seems to have lost the knack of small talk at an awkward moment. Each mind longs to be somewhere else!

Yeah!! Kisses to Terry (or William or whomever) who got rid of the Feb 7, 2036 date. I've been thinking of this scene we've been discussing at the Inn. All these subtle glances and looks of longing. Sigh. Marcia says: That walk and the stare he gives Lizzie as he sees her coming into the room at the Lambton Inn as he awaits the introduction of her to his sister. and Evelyn and Marcia agree with me about that longer than necessary glance Lizzy gives Darcy as he leaves the room (sorry, Marcia, but do you mean Georgiana instead of Bingley? or else we're talking about a different moment). Here's another - same scene - right after Darcy jumps up and greets Elizabeth and he says "not at all" (I think) when Elizabeth hopes he has not been waiting long. Doesn't it look as if he's forgotten why he's come? Georgiana is standing behind him but he's just drinking in Elizabeth. It's almost as if he shakes himself out of his reverie to remember the purpose of his call.

Oh, yes, Right you are! She (Lizzie) is slow on the uptake with whomever she is discoursing. I guess Bingley has his awkwardness later when Georgiana whispers to Darcy about the next evening's dinner.

... but he's just drinking in Elizabeth.... (Read:...he wants to rip the clothes off her.)

(Heide)... but he's just drinking in Elizabeth.... (Evelyn)(Read:...he wants to rip the clothes off her.) LOL!!! Only you, Evelyn!

Heide: I think I have figured this out after two hours today. I can't wait to chat with all of Darcy's admirers.

Join us, Rita, as we acknowledge all of the places Darcy feels the urgent necessity to share his DNA and other things lustful and wonderful about this man. Yup, Evelyn, You have it exactly right from what I can see in those chocolate pools of his!

Glad you perservered, Rita. It does get easier - bookmark it! Unfortunately, anyone or no one might be logged in the same time as you so chats are rather random but we welcome your insights anytime any-Darcy-where. Or Colin-where too if you're into him too. (hope so;))

Heide: Yes, I do adore COlin. I love him as Darcy but, I knew him before and I loved him in Valmont. That is where I first encountered his acting abilities. One of my favorite scenes in P & P is when he says"WHAT" tp Caroline. I love that. I would want to address her that way even if it is rude. There are so many scenes you must adores then all. I'm sure we all have favorites. I am so glad I found other people to talk to about this. I have begun to think I am crazy.

Hallo Rita! The WHAT scene is fantastic acting, isn't it? Just one word...I don't know that many people could say it in just that shade of absent-mindedness :-)

Since this one appears to be working thought I'd post here (better here than no where). Was wondering why Colin left town so quickly. Only reasons I came up with were: 1) Stores were already too crowded to do Christmas shopping. 2) Checked the TV Guide and noticed that for the next week everything is either a rerun or football (not his kind). 3) Wanted to avoid one of the busiest days at the airports. 4) Transit pass expired. 5) Nothing good left in minibar. I'm sure you all can do better!!

That "Wot?" Darcy aims so sharply at Caroline is the first sign of incivility he has shown toward a most unctuously nauseating woman. It is full of comtempt, and I rejoice in it. Before that, I was afraid he did not have the uh.... stuff... to make such a retort!

Photo courtesy of our hostess. Be glad I didn't scan in one of the others, but I still might ;-)

What a picture. What a place! I wanna' go there.....right NoW!

Let's all go to Pemberley. Why did Colin leave so quickly? 1. Found out P&P was being shown this weekend. 2. The Monica Lewinsky tapes were all sold out. 3. Too much sunshine - missed London's rain. Others?

4. Couldn't miss mama Lucia's birthday 5. Joining Arsenal at the stadium with brother for the UEFA cup match today 6. Cat accidentally dies 7. Helping Helen with this weeks BJD

8. His Internet connection was so bad he could not keep up with the postings on Spring!

9 It's the first time he's been separated from his wife 10 He's starting a new JOB!

11. Was afraid of being hit on the head with a balloon at the Macy's parade. 12. Hates turkey and it's subversive to eat anything but T. in the US on T'sgiving.

13. He is allergic to Cranberry Sauce, and today, *Everything* came with Cranberry Sauce.

10. He's starting a new JOB! A *winner*!!!! Let's hope.

11. Livia phoned to say water broke and he better get home NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (okay really bad!)

11. Livia phoned to say water broke and he better get home NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't think that is bad! Could be close to the truth. I hope so anyway. I like the idea of CF as a Daddy again. (also would mean he would have to work harder to keep his family, so we would see more of him!)

Whoops! Got the end tag wrong. Hope this works Testing.

To accompany Evelyn's writeup of her visit to Main Street Meryton!

14. He was afraid that GP would get laryngitis and Harvey would make him go on The Tonight Show.

15. He realised I was in Boston and had to go get his brother and bring him to Boston. Because he loved my When Fitzy met Lizzy story so much, that they had to meet me! (And JF falls madly passionately in love with me, etceteras...;))

14 ....LOL Evelyn! Harvey will twist his arm one day though! And he's the Boss!

Well, ladies I have P&P on while I'm typing and have once again fallen under the spell of F.D. (and C.F. impossible for me to separate the two!) Good God that man gives me the squinges. Probably why he beat a hasty retreat out of town - terrified that Darcy fever would overtake American women in earnest. Hmm, if he were still in NY I might be heading for the airport right now ;-)

Forgot to say welcome to Rita! Thanks for joining and please come and play often. (Karen) Photo courtesy of our hostess. Be glad I didn't scan in one of the others, but I still might ;-) Oh Karen, please do. I have seen them and they are charming. I'm ducking so that our great hostess cannot smack me :-)

Did you notice that his was the only name used at each break? Starring Colin Firth. Starring Colin Firth. Starring Colin Firth. (I could listen to that for hours, shoot I just did.) Poor Evelyn, not one mention of Jenn. But you're right, Miramax/Disney, which owns A&E, is using this to bring his name to the American public's mind for the gonzo opening of Shakespeare in Love. Also, promoting the boxed set for Christmas gifts.

(I can do better than buildings, Jana ;-D)

The "Look"

Sigh, sigh, sigh. I just can't get enough. When is this ever going to wear off? I too just spent 6 hours in front of the TV absolutely glued (except fo those pesky Wickham parts). Have you ladies in England watched Fever Pitch tonight? That was tonight, right? Boy, I envy you.

Not being able to fast forward the usual scenes, I found I enjoyed watching it all! You're right Heide, we are hooked aren't we?

Oh my gosh!!Another day of this terrible addiction. I loved P & P 2 and had to tape it even though Ihave the box set. I did have to remove all the commercials. Just when I thought I was going to be able to have a day with out Darcy. Love those pictures someone sure does know how to tease. Rita

Karen) Photo courtesy of our hostess. Be glad I didn't scan in one of the others, but I still might ;-) I have them too, and they deserve to be seen. Also Heide, please tell us about your day at Pemberley. Does Lyme Park have a website? A telephone number? There must be an easier way to get there than "on foot". Karen, your scanning skills are excellent. Bill Gates couldn't do better. (Bethan)Harvey will twist his arm one day though! And he's the Boss! Harvey is tough. And he'll twist more than his arm if Colin doesn't stop that coy stuff when it comes to publicity.Publicity translates into $$$$.

Harvey is tough I read somewhere that he can make grown men cry! Miramax invested nearly $8million in MLSF (not a huge Hollywood sum admittedly, but still a lotta money) and I think Colin will have to do what Harvey wants! BTW, I did watch FP (b&w TV in the kitchen!). My younger son retreated to his bedroom and watched it there (we seem to be a family of solitary viewers!), and really enjoyed it.

Miss Bennet?

Oh, delightful, Laura. I can't get enough of that wet shirt. And I was there!! And I walked around that lake and I climbed those stairs and I walked along that path. But I wasted my time in the house though it was cute to see the comments written in the guestbook "Loved it but where was Mr. Darcy?" "Kept expecting Mr. Darcy to come around the corner". And of course the elderly ticket taker instructing my pal Debbie and me how to get into the house - "There by the stairs where Mr. Darcy came down." If I'd ever go back (and I would, I would), I'd definitely do the "Pemberley Trail" first. Please believe me, though -it's not commercial in any way and the P&P references are very few and far between. By the way, when I told Debbie her picture was up, she said she wanted a phot credit so here's that photo credit: photo by Deb

Heide: Lucky you. I can't believe that you were there. Hopefully, I am going this summer . I have English friends. I really want to see Pemberley but, I don't know if there will be time. I am trying to convince myself to stay a fortnight. Rita P. S. I am so jealous

Rita, my dear, you must make time. Though if your base is London you'll have to reserve a whole day for it. If you go, get in touch with me. I'll tell you how to get there. It was very easy (yes, Evelyn, even on foot). Just walking around that lake and viewing the house from the other side made me gasp just like Lizzy did.

Heide: "ON Foot" Yes, as you see" , Does this remind you of anything. SIGN**** You know from the other board they say he is in town. *sigh***. Of course, you know that I will think he will be a Pemb. Yes, London will be the base. I am debating in how long to stay. I hear from my friends that t is so beautful. They are big fans also. They just saw Fever Pitch the other night. Rita

Ooh, then you'll have to go to the Arsenal stadium. I know it's sick but I just had to check that out too. Well I don't get to London very often. (Sorry for putting that on the Darcy Drool board - maybe we should have a Paul Ashworth one too ;-)). Back to Darcy - when I was watching it on A&E on Sunday, there was very little new I noticed but I was reminded again of moments I love. For instance, after Mr. Collins accosts Darcy at the ball and Darcy removes himself and goes to the Bingley sisters....I love that look of disdain he wears. Don't you wish we knew what he muttered to Caroline? And the expressions on the Netherfield people when Mary starts to sing. They all look as if they've been assaulted. Also love the looks everyone gives Mr. Hurst when he asks through his mouthful of food if there will be any sport today. And doesn't your heart break when Darcy prepares to leave Lizzy after being turned down for her hand. Aften listening to the listing of his faults, he ays, "You have said quite enough, madam. I perfectly comprehend your feelings" (gives a little smile - sob) "and now have only to be ashamed of what my own have been." I am still amazed that this very difficult scene was one of the first he had to film. So masterful.

Sorry for the phantom posts! Just lurking I must have hit the wrong key.

I cannot believe that A&E's presentation of P&P2 has caused no new drool for Darcy. What is happening to the women of the world? Too busy in pursuit of the almighty (put your local currency here)? Too many children to tend? Would it be slavish attention to husband that is using your libido leaving nothing for Darcy? Something serious is amiss with the women out there if this is the case.

Not, I hasten to add, that I mind the regulars who are such expert droolers. I just thought there might be some new local flooding going unacknowledged, and fan that I am, I want to wade into it, too!!!!

Ah, nah, too busy flogging, actually;) hee hee, I am a bad girl!

From the lady who named her Keepsake "Whipper" that is to be expected =P

From the lady who named her Keepsake "Whipper" that is to be expected =P [ You know me so well;)

They're out there, Marcia, I'm sure of it. It takes a little while to gather up the nerve to post at Drool. It took me several months. I think we'll see some new names pretty soon. The question is, will they stick around?

Heide, we must make it interesting enough to pique their curiosity, then challenge them enough that they post an opinion. Any ideas out there? I first posted when the old mainline Board threatened to collapse due to the old guard having drooled themselves temporarily dry, and the rest of us were just lurking. Do not worry about phantom postings. Just say Hi and we will encourage you. We need the fresh insights to reinvigorate our salivary glands and whatever else...=)

BTW, I did not think my little writing about the Billiard Shot was so bad that it would close down 113. That is not a good sign to a beginning writer =P

OK... Maybe this question will get people to post: Besides the obvious "The Look" scene (for newcomers-- when Lizzy plays the pianoforte at Pemberley, and Darcy drools over her) and "The Kiss" (very last P&P2 scene)... which scene would you most likely be reincarnated into, which character would you be, and why? This is a tough one, but for now, I'd go with: -Wickham flashback scene, when Darcy finds the two at Ramsgate and banishes Wickham. -I'd be Georgiana -I love that embrace--- though brotherly, it's the closest anyone gets to him besides the kiss.

Okay WInter: I would have loved to been Lizzy when she saw him get out of that pond. Believe me, I probably could not quit starring. I probably would have made a fool of myslef but, him in that wet shirt. Oh my!!!! P. S. My real firends don't get this either. In fact, it has made them sick for years. They just don't get it and can't understand that there is a wahole group of us. After your conquest last week I was in awe for many days.

I would do the dance at Netherfield, that first step, the hands, his intense stare...even if we do not get on at all, I'll find the experience quite rewarding.

I'd be Lizzie in the Rosings piano scene... the first time he looks vulnerable and earnest.

I'd be Lizzie when the fact that her "opinion had become quite the opposite"...and watch the actuality of that splendid news sweep across his face. My favorite hug is the one he gave Georgiana after he had brought her home and had paid off Wickham. That was so close and tender...and lots fewer clothes between them =P

That was so close and tender...and lots fewer clothes between them =P Tsk, Tsk, Tsk Marcia! You naughty girl... Where is your mind? Obviously, it's where MY mind should be... Good point, I hadn't thought of that! ;-)

My favorite is the second scene at the Inn at Lambton. The one where he is comforting her on the news of Lydia and Wickham. He came to the inn to see her wearing that exquisite green waistcoat...and is so in love. She is in love too...but doesn't quite realize it. It's all so subtle...and underacted. Love the way he fondles her hand too :-)

(Winter)Tsk, Tsk, Tsk Marcia! You naughty girl... Where is your mind? Oh, the joys and perils of archives. You have not been here long enough to remember that I was the Button Snipper who collected buttons from each of his garments as Keepsakes (with his active participation, of course)...=)

I just thought of another scene. The one where she happens upon him outside Netherfield. Where he says "On foot". Oh he looks too cute. If I was Lizzy I would have wanted him to escort me anywhere but, not to Jane at that time. DIrty shoes and all.

Rita, I see we think alike on these things. Alas, if WE had been confronted by such a cute Darcy we would have capitulated straight away. Then he would not have had to go through the refining process which made him a much better husband for Lizzie. Of course, we would have ended up with egotistical churls, but that is the nature of the male beast, and somehow we must love them in spite of this. We all know that No man would change like Darcy did for Lizzie, I think! But, it is a wonderful fantasy!

Marcia, I beg to disagree! One, I would not take Darcy before his change - or at least I wouldn't take him for more than one night he he ;-) Second, count me lucky, someone has changed a lot for me =-)

What about being Lady Caroline when he has that outburst in the Drawing room at Pemberly. He talks of Lizzie being "one of the handsomest women of my accquaintance" That would have been some passion to witness, all errupting brooding and longing (Well you have already done all the best ones!!)

(Lizza) (Well you have already done all the best ones!!) How about the scene of them walking through the woods at Pemberly...when he asks her permission to introduce his sister.."Would I be asking too much...." The one in those tight pants... That one hasn't been taken yet....

(Gi)One, I would not take Darcy before his change - or at least I wouldn't take him for more than one night he he ;-) I love this answer!!! And you are indeed a special lady to warrant a gentleman who is willing to change for you. I never thought it was possible for a long-time husband to change, but I am most fortunate to have one who wants only to please me, now. It is Very Special!

Gi: count me lucky, someone has changed a lot for me =-) You indeed, are lucky! Hang onto that man! It's a rarity to see men make changes for the women in their lives...it usually goes the other way around. But at least, seeing your case, there's still hope for !

Gi: count me lucky, someone has changed a lot for me =-) You indeed, are lucky! Hang onto that man! It's a rarity to see men make changes for the women in their lives...it usually goes the other way around. But at least, seeing your case, there's still hope!

YIKES! What happened? Sorry...

Another scene with Darcy: When he says "WOT" to MIss BIngley. I love that part. I wish that Lizzy could have been there to hear that. I love the look on the other sisters face. A great scene. Winter: You are so right. WOmen usually change for the men :(. This truly is a man world but, imagine during Lizzy's time. Oh I don't think I would have made a very good wife. My mouth tends to carried away at times. Like Lizzy's.

Thank you for confirming what I have known to be true about men. I guess it is left over from the cave-man days. No wonder JA never married....she could not find a real-life Darcy!

(MarciaH) I never thought it was possible for a long-time husband to change, but I am most fortunate to have one who wants only to please me, now. It is Very Special! Indeed! I'm glad for you, my dear. (MarciaH)you are indeed a special lady Thank you, but you see, it really doesn't count... I've been myself for 42 years and nobody else has changed for my sake before ;-)So I guess he's the special person. (Winter) Hang onto that man! I intend to marry him next summer :-)

(Winter) Hang onto that man! (Gi)I intend to marry him next summer :-) WOW! A wedding.....Cool. Is this a first on Drool? Promise, Gi, you won't desert us after you become Mrs....

hurray! Gi's getting married! We can hold an on-line wedding shower for you! And... we can bring on a male dancer/stripper for you too... perhaps in the form of a certain... Mr Darcy?!

Congrats to you GI. I hope that you get a real life Darcy. I know some firneds that husbands come pretty close to that....A male stripper in the form of Darcy WOOOOOO!!! That would be too much. Rita