(KarenR) My choice was Jane Adams. Interesting - I would never have thought of her, but now that you mention it I think that could have worked. And I can much more easily imagine her having chemistry with CF than HG. (We do need a different acronym or nickname for her, don't we?) Mariel, thanks for the link to the TIOBE photos! The link above was to a gallery of HG (the other one) photos by the same photographer, but I found the TIOBE gallery with just a couple of clicks. Here's a direct link: http://growbag.net/photographers/gregwilliams/importanceofbeingearnest/index.asp My favorite was DB smiling like mad and wearing the white shirt. Plus, of course, the cute nap-on-the-lawn photo! I also had to laugh at one of the captions - check out the photo of Rupert playing The Horse Whisperer.

Oooh! Thank you, Mariel. I love those pics. Check out the socks, I mean, the skin on display here: He also took pics on the set of BJD, but it was for the post-launch party and dinner with Daniel scene where they kissed on the street. No Colin.

(Moon)Anna Chandler, the Lord's fianc�e, has a daughter, so she would be the "would be step-sister, who is preparing for her debutant ball. Anna finding the Lord's daughter such an "American girl," insists on making her a debutant too. That sounds like a very good bet. In the original "Reluctant Debutante," there is an English stepmother Lady Broadbend [?](Kay Kendall), who has a dear friend whose daughter is making her debut. Not to be outdone, Kendall's character plunges poor Sandra Dee into the whole deb thing. Perhaps AC's character doees the same thing to Amanda, with the thought of soon-to-be step-sisters bonding, or something. Could be good scenes of girls fighting over THE dress in Harvey Nicks? Great photos! I like the one of Lady B driving a golf cart. The one of Colin in the white shirt cuts off his hands oddly... (Moon) Colin's relaxing... Yes, Colin appears to be having a very nice nap. Does anyone know how to get black marker ink off a computer screen? I felt compelled to do SOMETHING about Rupie's white anklets!

Terrific find, Mariel, thanks! Looks like he has a cell phone up to his ear in one of them. Does anyone know how to get black marker ink off a computer screen? I felt compelled to do SOMETHING about Rupie's white anklets! LOL! Those short socks should be banned. How awful. Speaking of debutantes, I was watching the Tom Hanks tribute from the AFI last night and there's a scene from Punchline in which Tom, as a stand-up comic, does a funny riff on debutante "activities," ending with the rant, "What Does This Have To Do With The Real World!!!" So I guess CF has moved on from rom-coms to fairy tales. :-(

(Mari) LOL! Those short socks should be banned. How awful. Thank goodness it was Rupie sporting them and not DB. So I guess CF has moved on from rom-coms to fairy tales. :-( I keep telling myself that this was just a chance for him to spend the summer at home (the London home, anyway) with Livia and Luca instead of being off on location, and that much better things are on the horizon. If I repeat it often enough I even begin to believe it.... a little.

Lovely photos. Obviously, they all must put their cell's on "vibrate" so as not to disturb filming. They must never be without them. Somehow, I thought this would be different than say, your average teenager (or adult moviegoer) in the movie *theater* in the U.S. ;-)

(Mari) Those short socks should be banned. How awful. Those are the girliest socks I've ever seen. Honestly! Rupie can do better than that :) Great shot of Colin in the long coat and cell phone. That man really does look great in clothes. :)

I think the long coat is part of his mourning outfit. Glad these styles are still with us ala CF movies. Also, like the one of Dame Judi in the aforementioned golf cart. No wonder he was scared if he rode it like Merriman is! :-)

The Greg Williams photos are terrific!!! Thanks, Mariel, what a find! I feel a little like a fly on the wall seeing the actors who are captured out of character, but still in their costumes! Rupie, those socks and shoes have to go. They aren't even tied. Colin looks very dashing on the other hand.................and neither right nor left ;-). The pic where he's on the cellphone and in long coat begs for a caption from someone around here concerning a conversation with LD about kissing scene or something. Am not feeling very creative today, but can just hear those drool wheels turning out there... (Rika) I also had to laugh at one of the captions - check out the photo of Rupert playing The Horse Whisperer. LOL! Rika, do you mean photo #10 or #11? Because your comment about the Horse Whisperer fits both, if you think Reese's hair is the horse and the make-up person's hand is the horse's ear (which I did at first) when I looked at #11! LOLROTFLMAO!

Thank you, Mariel for those great pictures. My favorite is CF in the white shirt laughing. He looks v.yummy in all of them. Is it just me, or does Rupie look downright old in those shots? Or is it because ODB looks especially good? (Moon)Colin relaxing and we ask, where's it hanging? One never knows just how it might swing in that fully recumbent position.! (Karen)But how else are you going to show contrast between the beautiful and virginal and blonde Nancy (played by the daughter of Sylvia Syms, who is now in AmGirl) and the boozing, on the way down, older actress?? I agree, I also felt that the affair with the older actress was not only a result of his being rejected by Nancy, but also to show just how young and inexperienced this boy was in London, and how you can get lost in the show biz crowd. I also think Richard was very eager to have a taste of many things. Uh, should this be on another topic? Sorry.

Nice work Mariel! Moon....can't think of how to top that! (hat off, bowing down...)

Mariel, thanks so much! My faves are the B/W ones of CF in long coat with cell phone and in the white shirt. Another one I like a lot is the first one in the group with OP and JD in the foreground and CF in the background in the glare of the lights. I'm quite fond of the pic of RE in color with the horse also....there's something a little different about it, a slightly different depth of field or something I can't put my finger on. (Linda) He looks v.yummy in all of them. Is it just me, or does Rupie look downright old in those shots? Or is it because ODB looks especially good? He does look excellent! I think the moustache makes RE look older...kinda makes him look like Snidley Whiplash. Wasn't that the villain in the Dudley Do Right cartoons? He just needs the big hat. And ODB does put him and everyone else to shame.

(Dorine) Another one I like a lot is the first one in the group with OP and JD in the foreground and CF in the background in the glare of the lights. Doesn't it look like he's holding a cellphone in that one too?

Didn't occur to me it could be a cell phone. My first thought was he was looking at something he picked up off the desk. (Caribou) I think the long coat is part of his mourning outfit. Glad these styles are still with us ala CF movies. I very much like this style on tall men. I'm usually dismayed at Joan and Melissa's comments on the red carpet shows when they diss those who wear those types of coats such as Samuel L. Jackson and Russell Crowe. (Karen) My choice was Jane Adams I like her in the few things I've seen her in (Frasier, The Anniv Party). I'll be reading the book soon. I'll have to see if I can picture either HGm or Jane Adams.

I thought he was holding a cell at first, but if you look closely it is rather thin and there is something extending from the back like the arm at the back of a photo frame. :))) Lovely pics and lively comments today!

(Lora) The pic where he's on the cellphone and in long coat begs for a caption from someone around here concerning a conversation with LD about kissing scene or something My feeble attempt: Honey, it was just Rupert's cheeky ad lib so it doesn't really count! The fully recumbent posture one: Show no fear! (after what happened to Brian Smith)

(Lora) LOL! Rika, do you mean photo #10 or #11? Because your comment about the Horse Whisperer fits both, if you think Reese's hair is the horse and the make-up person's hand is the horse's ear (which I did at first) when I looked at #11! LOLROTFLMAO! Right, I was talking about #11. On first impression, it looks for all the world like he's whispering sweet nothings in the horse's ear, but the caption refers to the hair/make-up work. Pretty funny. (Linda) He looks v.yummy in all of them. Is it just me, or does Rupie look downright old in those shots? Or is it because ODB looks especially good? (Dorine) He does look excellent! I think the moustache makes RE look older...kinda makes him look like Snidley Whiplash....And ODB does put him and everyone else to shame. I saw TIOBE again this afternoon (we had fairly good turnout for a 4:30 pm show on a weekday), and I was again struck by how much better (and younger) ODB looks compared to RE (even though I think RE is only a year older). I do think the moustache was part of it, and his eyebrows also seem to have been given a dramatic shape that enhances the "Snidely Whiplash" effect. And they do seem to have piled on the make-up, just as ODB teased him about - was that in the VH

Sorry that ended abruptly - my PC was momentarily possessed by an evil spirit that posted for me while I was in mid-sentence. I was going to say, "was that in the VH1 cast party?"

God bless Heather Graham and her disdain for the standard Hollywood actress nudity clause. First, she abandons all clothing for Boogie Nights. Next she donned a pair of unfeasibly short hot pants as Austin Powers' girl goddess Felicity Shagwell. Now Heather's keeping up appearances by doing the dirty with Joseph Fiennes in the hot and steamy Killing Me Softly. Empire Online shared couch space with the lovely Ms Graham to find out who has the best body in Hollywood and whether she really is a 'naughty girl'.An interview with Heather in Empire, mainly about nudity (duh) and how she'd like to be Meryl Streep (!). At the end she's asked about her next project and doesn't mention HS. http://www.empireonline.co.uk/features/interviews/killingmesoftly/

Thank Karen. Pisses me off.Why wouldn't she mention HS with a high profile British actor...instead of some Indian guy no one ever heard of.

Dennie Gordon, director of AG on the set of Joe Dirt http://www.kinoweb.de/film2001/JoeDirt/pix/jd3.jpg

I assume that's Dennie on the left.;-) Looked her up on the imdb and she's directed a lot of good TV series--Ally McBeal, The Practice, Tracey Ullmann, Chicago Hope, Picket Fences . . . so hopefully JD was an abberation. Maybe you have to kiss some frogs to get into feature film directing.;-)

OK, I've just gotten word from a source within the AG production about the cast. AC is the fiancee and the other girl is her daughter from a previous marriage. Baz got it wrong. Kelly Preston is not finished. It was just how the shooting was scheduled. She'll be back maybe three more times. And they are right now at West Wycombe shooting a scene where Amanda is learning from her leading man (not Colin) how to curtsey and is supposed to fall in the lake. I hear a huge ARGH out there from all you wet shirt people. ;-D

AC is the fiancee and the other girl is her daughter from a previous marriage. . . .Kelly Preston is not finished. Whadyya know--the kid running the Amanda website got it right. Thanks much for the confirmation, Karen. I'm satisfied.

(Karen)...is supposed to fall in the lake "Don't worry, darling. Daddy will save you!!", says Lord D. Love those photos, Mariel. What a find! Colin was singing to his crying baby on the cellphone ;-) FP will be showing once again (with no reference to CF) on Showcase in Canada July 4th. And the western movie channel CEN will rerun RV. Same old, same old. They show every other bad UK TV movie but never any obscure ODB. (pout) You'd think everyone would want to see the young Ms Zeta in "Move Your Tongue"--I mean, "Out of the Blue".

(Karen)AC is the fiancee and the other girl is her daughter from a previous marriage Am V.V. pleased to read this :-D

(Bryonny) You'd think everyone would want to see the young Ms Zeta in "Move Your Tongue"--I mean, "Out of the Blue". LOL! I'd bet Ms Z-J has an injunction out against ever showing this program again. I mean you get to see her pre-implants and with her *real* teeth. Not a pretty sight. ;-D

Way t'go , Boss. Thanks. ROTF Byronny

Thanks for the info on the *Today* programme in Australia Mari but by the time I read your message, it was over. A friend, and I use the word loosely as she didn't tape it ;-) phoned me that night but of course it was too late. I sent a message out over the airwaves at work but so far no-one has come forward with a tape. Not long to go to 4 July which is the release date for TIOBE down here. The cinema closest to me has told me they are only showing it at their city theatres - about 1.5 hours away by car. I plan on checking a few other cinemas later today but will definitely be making the trip if its not showing at any of them.

On Monday, reports People magazine, Travolta, 48 and a self-professed ''airline geek,'' earned a new set of wings as a first officer for Australia's Qantas Airways. As such, he plans to take his family -- actress-wife Kelly Preston, 39, and their two children, son Jett, 10, and daughter Ella Bleu, 2 -- on a two-month, 35,000-mile flight that will circle the globe, starting Monday. Will he stop in London for Kelly to finish AG?

As for obscure CF movies--"Fatal Beauty" is playing. Seems like movie wife somewhat resembles real wife. Also, someone in an art gallery asks Joe where he buys his shoes....hmmm... Any mention of why KP sings in AG?

Fatal Beauty. What is that? Sounds like a cross between Fatal Attraction and Dangerous Beauty, where a boiled bunny gets tossed off the Bridge of Sighs. ;-D

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Sorry, I was having trouble posting. (Moon)Will he stop in London for Kelly to finish AG? Was just reading about this in the local paper, Moon, and it said that London is one of their stops, so sure. Hey, Evelyn (aka, Karnak) predicted this one 2 weeks ago! (Karen)Sounds like a cross between Fatal Attraction and Dangerous Beauty, where a boiled bunny gets tossed off the Bridge of Sighs. ;-D LOL! Is that the one where Glenn Close takes a butcher's knife to Rufus Sewell and hacks off all his curls?;-) Amy, you mean Femme Fatale, aka, Fatal Woman. I like that one--B movie all the way but Joe Prince is so sweet and I love the love scenes.:-)

Mari, You're right... strictly a B movie but I'm glad I caught it. Just waiting 'til 9 PM local time to catch "Camille" on Hallmark channel. Two previously unseen CF movies on one night!!! Frankly, I don't care whether they are good, bad or indifferent; I just want the opportunity to see it for myself. Heck, I'd even sit through the apparently !@#$%^&*( "Londinium". It's knowing that there is this whole body of work of his that I haven't seen yet that is so frustrating. Even more frustrating is the fact that I don't know if I'll ever get to see some of them (such as Donovan Quick) unless some US distributor decides to bring them out on video or DVD.

(Kathy C)It's knowing that there is this whole body of work of his that I haven't seen yet that is so frustrating. I know! Last week someone posted that Master of the Moor was on a Canadian cable (I think?) channel. I keep hoping it will turn on up PBS Mystery or on the Enclore group's mystery channel, but so far no luck.

(Kathy) It's knowing that there is this whole body of work of his that I haven't seen yet that is so frustrating. Even more frustrating is the fact that I don't know if I'll ever get to see some of them (such as Donovan Quick) unless some US distributor decides to bring them out on video or DVD. I know! It's VERY frustrating. (whimper) And to add to my personal frustration, I haven't seen Fatal Woman (or FF) yet, but our cable system doesn't get Lifetime Movie Network, so it didn't help me that it aired earlier today. (whimper, whimper) I may have to take refuge in BJD tonight.

And now I turn to the Hallmark channel and instead of "Camille" they are showing something called "Durango". EXTREMELY frustrated whimpering going on over here at the moment.

Just got back from #9 TIOBE-but who's counting. Still v.v.nice crowd. Took friends along-they absolutely loved it. Glad to hear we're all cleared up concerning AG-for now at least. (Kathy)I'd even sit through the apparently !@#$%^&*( "Londinium". Shhhh, don't let the boss hear that. (Karen)I hear a huge ARGH out there from all you wet shirt people. ;-D ...and a double huge ARGH from all us righties and lefties.

The IMDB is now showing release dates for Hope Springs for the UK (1 Nov) and the Netherlands 13 Feb 2003), in addition to the US one that's been up there for sometime (6 Sept).

That must mean that we won't get it down under until well into 2003... ;-)

re:(Kathy) It's knowing that there is this whole body of work of his that I haven't seen yet that is so frustrating. Even more frustrating is the fact that I don't know if I'll ever get to see some of them (such as Donovan Quick) unless some US distributor decides to bring them out on video or DVD We have actually been really lucky on digital cable in Canada lately -- I got to catch Master of the Moor as mentioned, Another Country last week and Turn of the Screw on the weekend. This weekend, Apartment Zero, and the mentioned Fever Pitch on Showcase July 4. Sometimes it is a good thing to have a million channel universe. I feel like I am slowly catching up without having to break the bank...hopefully living in England will let me see some more.

Fatal Beauty is the Lifetime (for women) version of Femme Fatal I suppose (blah, I mean ick). Maybe their target audience wouldn't watch what they thought may be a "French" film! :P Camile was on Hallmark quite a few weeks back.

We're just giving you a hard time, Amy. The boo-hiss Lifetime version (definitely NOT worth it) of Femme Fatale is called Fatal Woman (she's not that beautiful) After getting that scummy movie out of my mouth (ptooey), here's a treat. Jane had posted the text to the Australian New Woman article (term used v. loosely) and this is the accompanying pic for "A Firthy Mind"

My, my, my my my....someone did his hair........!!! Thanks Jane (& boss), I'm going to pop into Woolies today and have a look in the check out line!

OOHHHH, Thanks for that v.yummy picture, Karen. Yes, ODB's hair looks v.good indeed!

Thanks, Karen! V. v. nice! It's nice to see it larger and without words plastered all over it. I saw it on eBay a week or so ago. As I was watching Fatal Woman (AKA FF) tonight (fast forwarding through a lot of it, really), I was noticing how good ODB looked, with really nice hair...but realized that I much prefer the more mature version as above. Looking at the pic above elicits an "Oh!" and in FW it was, "OK he was cute". Cuteness doesn't quite cut it for me. I find that men become significantly more appealing to me when they hit mid to late 30's. George Clooney, Rob Lowe are a couple that come to mind at the moment.

(Lisa) My, my, my my my....someone did his hair........!!! I love the curl down over his forehead... just a hint of Darcy there. Mmmmmmmmm. Thanks, Karen!!!!

Hello, my name is Jeanie, and I'm a Colin Firth addict. (Hello, Jeanie) LOL! This is so kewl. I had no idea that he has such a following.. gee whiz.. I even liked him BEFORE P&P, but if you mention Colin here (just outside of Nashville, Tennessee where one's concept of culture ends in the dairy aisle amongst the yogurt and cottage cheese)you generally get the reply of "Colin, Whoooo?". So, finding so many others that enjoy ODB "Old Darcy Butt".. yes, I know.. "Our Dear Boy",... it took me awhile to figure out the acronymn, has been a wonderful catharsis. My husband knows of my weakness, but he's so used to it that he really doesn't mind so much. He even sits down and watches one of Colin's flicks with me from time to time. I have recently mentioned at the Harry Potter website that I believe Colin would make a fabulous "Sirius Black" (character in the third and fourth books of the series). What's your spin on that? Inquiring.. (ok, sick and twisted) minds would like to know! ;-)

Wonderful picture, Karen! Put that in/on The Bucket, please! ;-D Welcome Jeanie! We did discuss the possibility of a role in HP for Colin, way back.

Welcome Jeanie! Glad to see you've made it here! Although had I known you were going to bring up HP, I'd have told you to leave it in the paper aisle, amongst the toilet paper rolls. ;-D Just kidding. Others agree with you and who am I to quash such discussion? *off to get my voodoo doll*

Hello, Jeanie, welcome to the madness. BTW, there is no 10-step program for Firthaholics.......because we don't want to be cured! Karen, thanks for posting that picture. One of the best I've seen! Just made my morning. (Lisa, you still have a Wollies? I'm envious!) If Hope Springs comes out in the UK in Nov, isn't that fairly soon after the UK release of TIOBE? What a Firthfrenzy--he could have his own mini filmfest. Are there any Firthettes in Yorkshire? There is a Leeds Film Festival in October (according to info from British Tourist Board). Any hope of a Colin film there?

Hmmmm.. (making mental note not to bring up any more inane movie suggestions for Colin to star in.. persisting in such tomfoolery could prove hazardous to one's health, or, at least, backside.. ouch, watch where you're stickin' dem pins! LOL!)

Naw, we make movie suggestions all the time. I'm just not in the camp that wants to see Colin put on fright wigs, prosthetic noses (and other appendages) and heavy makeup. I'm in the "do a serious drama" camp, like this one I read about this a.m. The part of Dave seems to be open and Colin's in the right age bracket, plus you have a respected director (slap me!): From THR: Sean Penn is set and Kevin Bacon is in final negotiations to star in Warner Bros. Pictures/Village Roadshow Prods.' "Mystic River," which Clint Eastwood will direct and produce through his Malpaso Prods. The project will go into production in September in Boston and Los Angeles. Based on Dennis Lehane's novel of the same name, "Mystic" tells the story of three childhood friends -- Sean, Dave and Jimmy -- who are reunited 25 years later when they become linked in a murder investigation after Jimmy's oldest daughter is killed. Penn will play Jimmy, an ex-con ready to take justice into his own hands. Bacon would play Sean, a policeman on duty when Jimmy's daughter is murdered who responds to the call. Penn's interest in the project began while he was a client at ICM, where he was also eyeing such projects as "The Assassination of Richard Nixon" and "21 Grams."

Hmmmm.. (making mental note not to bring up any more inane movie suggestions for Colin to star in.. persisting in such tomfoolery could prove hazardous to one's health, or, at least, backside.. ouch, watch where you're stickin' dem pins! LOL!)

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Hi Jeannie Harry Potter? Me too ;-)

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(Karen) I'm in the "do a serious drama" camp, like this one I read about this a.m..... Hmmm... I'm having trouble imagining CF with Sean Penn and Kevin Bacon. But maybe that's because the only American I've ever seen him play is Jess in ATA. There's been nothing new reported lately about the Ted Hughes role, has there?

I noted in last week's "Entertainment Weekly" that Amanda Bynes said that the highpoint of her life thusfar had been making a movie with CF. Gawd, they get younger every day, don't they? My daughter is only 18 and she swears if she ever got "he who must be adored" somewhere alone she'd wear him out! ROFL! You know... I'd really like to see "Vanity Fair" do a major spread on "he who must". I think I'll write the editor and tell him to get Annie Leibovitz busy on that. (laughing) Thanks for all the kind "hellos", btw!

Ted Hughes, yup.. that would work.. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/2421/sylviaplath14.jpg He certainly looks a great deal more like TH than RC or HG, don't you think? I mean.... look at the chin and the eyes! I read a year or two ago about Meg Ryan's quest to stir up interest in a Plath project, and I understand she really wanted to star in it, as well, but now GP is in place to play Sylvia... Oh well... (winking at Karen).. guess that's what happens when you make too many romantic comedies.

Welcome, Jeanie! Though I'm in the "I want serious roles" camp, I'd be happy to see him do Harry Potter--at least it would get an extremely wide release and have mass appeal. I noted in last week's "Entertainment Weekly" that Amanda Bynes said that the highpoint of her life thusfar had been making a movie with CF. Which issue, Jeanie? Can you give us the direct quote? Thanks.

Welcome Jeanie! A HP role for CF-I wouldn't mind, because as Mari just posted it would have wide release. However, I'm with Karen in the dramatic role camp. I think he would be perfect for the Ted Hughes part-fingers and toes crossed.

(Mari) Harry Potter--at least it would get an extremely wide release and have mass appeal. ROTF. By all means, let's reach out to all the demographics ;- TIOBE "12 yrs and up"...NY Times AG same age group...stopping at 17 yrs. Then [trumpets] *Tah* *Rah*... "Harry Potter"...directed by KB [wouldn't that be cruel?]aimed at the 6 to 13 yrs. Yup...we'd have 'em all;-)))

LOL.. well, now that I've really thought about it and considered everyone's viewpoint, I think ODB needs to be REALLY careful about the roles he is taking on. His career is sort of in a state of flux right now with his opportunities going from "supporting role" to "starring role", and I believe that Karen is really right about sticking to the more serious projects. There's just not many actors or actresses that can make that transition back and forth between comedy and drama and still be taken seriously by producers, you know? Matter of fact, Tom Hanks is really the only actor I can think of at the moment who can do that, and do it successfully, and, as of late, even HIS luck with that ability could be called into question. As far as the "Entertainment Weekly" article I mentioned in one of my many posts.. lol...it's in the June 28/July 5 issue on page 69 (lifting an eyebrow)...this whole issue is dealing with stars that the magazine believes are "it" right now, and they have some really nice pictures of several of their choices along with little silly tidbits about their lives. They seem to believe that Amanda Bynes is the "IT" ingenue at the moment, and in her little factoids along with her greatest "Influence", "Career High" and "Best Advice" she ever received, there's "Almost Better Than Getting Her Driver's License": "Shooting the film "American Girl" with Colin Firth in London. But I'll be away the whole summer, which is a bummer I just got my first car."... LOL.. Oh, to be sixteen and gorgeous again.. heee heeee.

(Jeanie) "he who must be adored" Love it! Does that make his DW "she who must be obeyed"? That might explain some of his decisions...

ROFL.. right out of "Rumpole of the Bailey"... I think many of us wives are "she who must be obeyed"s don't you? And.. considering his previous "eye for the women", I would say that Livia, through need of self-preservation, is definitely one! LOL

(Jeanie)And.. considering his previous "eye for the women", I would say that Livia, through need of self-preservation, is definitely one! He's only had 2 public relationships(that we know of) with women before getting married..that hardly qualifies him as some sort of Romeo. LOL Especially by the entertainment industry standards. I honestly don't think his wife has to worry about a "wandering eye" with this one. Truth be told, he has a bit of a reputation for letting the women in his life rule (if you catch my drift). May or may not be a bad thing. Too each his own. But IMHO, his career is HIS career and some changes do need to be made. Off to Lurkland again Have a great weekend everyone!!

Hey, Hola.. meant no disrespect toward "he who must"... didn't realize he'd only had two women before Livia. ;-) I just seem to remember several years ago hearing he was quite the ladies' man... LOL, but I'm probably mistaken. Either way, though, you're perfectly right about it being HIS career and that he should make his own decisions regarding it. I'm just glad I'm not in his wife's shoes.. (yes you read that correctly.. LOL). He's too pretty for his own good, and considering the temptations that are out there and the long spaces of time being spent apart, I'd go completely bonkers!!

Oh Gawd....shoes and Livia. I think I feel a humourous little snippet taking form in my twisted brain.

(Kate)"she who must be obeyed"? (HolaLola)Truth be told, he has a bit of a reputation for letting the women in his life rule (if you catch my drift). There's a vulgar term for this condition which I won't post (but I will entertain off-board guesses;-) Suffice to say, "her way or the highway." (Evelyn) ROTF. By all means, let's reach out to all the demographics ;- TIOBE "12 yrs and up"...NY Times Hey, our little community paper has it listed under the "Family Filmgoer" section, right up there with Scooby-Do and Lilo and Stitch. AG same age group...stopping at 17 yrs. Try 12 years old. The 17s are all at Minority Report.

Ah Mari, you wouldn't be inferring that ODB was "PW" would you? That would be a terrible thing to say about him! ;-)

For all newbies...don't miss Lisa's terrific story on Fan Fic #159. "Under My Skin".A contemporary "steamy" P&P.Not to be missed. Earlier chapters are in the archive...with illustrations!!

Heee Heeee! Freddie, I should've said I wouldn't want to be in her "gawd awful ugly shoes". And.. is it just me or does the term "PW" remind anyone else of a non-dairy whipped topping? (shrugging)

(Evelyn)For all newbies...don't miss Lisa's terrific story on Fan Fic #159. "Under My Skin".A contemporary "steamy" P&P.Not to be missed. Earlier chapters are in the archive...with illustrations!! I read that whole story in just a few days after wandering on and reading ch.15 first. v.steamy-glad I didn't miss it.

(Jeanie) I read a year or two ago about Meg Ryan's quest to stir up interest in a Plath project, and I understand she really wanted to star in it, as well, but now GP is in place to play Sylvia.. But Meg is still working to produce her own version. These aren't the same projects. But it sure looks like this one will be done and Meg's is nowhere. (Mari) I'd be happy to see him do Harry Potter--at least it would get an extremely wide release and have mass appeal. So?????? Is that going to mean anything?? Do you really think this will have any bearing on whether he gets toplined on important project? Is Robbie Coltrane getting handed Oscar potential scripts? People go to see the HP movies because of the stories and the special effects. They don't go for the supporting cast of British All Stars. Of course, what do I know? BTW, many of the Best Actor candidates are coming out of smaller or indie releases nowadays because that's where people are actually acting. Lola is quite right. Colin's only had two relationships that have made the press before getting married. Hardly a Romeo. The fact that both were his leading ladies made it news, but then again, where do most people meet? At work, right?

Hi Everyone. Welcome Jeannie. Thanks for picture Karen. I too, prefer his more mature look although he is awfully cute in Dutch Girls. I could go for it. He was legal then. But couldn't dance. Let's face it girls, two publicized relationships with leading ladies. With his looks and libido you know there were others. Just not big enough to make the press. You'd hate to think he wasn't normal. I have a very cute 23 year old son who is very normal and I gave up keeping track. They call him all the time and he's not in the movies. So I can just imagine the kind of attention he got when he was younger. He was probably slowing down 30-37 that's why only two major ones then the DW because it was time to settle down. Valmont is on AMC in July as well as a BJD run on Starz and Conspiracy on HBO 2 FF on Lifetime movies and Hostages on Thrillermax thats all I could find on internet so far. Wish I was in Canada too. Would love to see what you're getting. Lucky you. I'd just like to see him in a leading roll comedy/drama doesn't matter. Just alot of screen time. That's all.

I went to the movies here in Sydney today, and I've just got to say that, for a movie that opens next week, there has been absolutely NO publicity whatsoever for TIOBE. I have not seen one single television commercial, not one single preview at the movies and not one single poster for TIOBE here. It's disgusting. Miramax apparently doesn't even realize there's a whole continent below the equator. I'm thoroughly disgusted. I predict that TIOBE is going to tank down here, and no small wonder. Nobody even knows the #$*@)($* film exists. On another note, "Bend It Like Beckham", which was the film I went to see today, is doing very well - and it's a great film. I highly recommend it.

I think we're down to three theaters here, if I remember correctly what was in yesterday's ad. Nary a commercials that I've ever seen.

TIOBE is just at one theater here, unfortunately. I still haven't seen it. I haven't had enough time with all of my children being home for summer break, however, my 16 year old son says he'll make the 45 minute trek with me. I live in the county just north of Nashville, and I really do deeply resent that there's only one small theater in Nashville that's showing it. We have one of those huge multiplex theaters here in Hendersonville, but they're too busy showing the typical junk. (sigh) I suppose Miramax assumes most people in this area would be too ignorant to want to see the movie, and unfortunately... they'd probably be correct in that assumption. It's not being advertised here, either. I had the same problem last year when I wanted to see "How To Kill Your Neighbor's Dog". Oh well... My computer is going into the shop today. It needs some work, so I won't be around for a few days, and you will all be greatly missed. =)

Earnest--he's baaaccckkkk!! I reported the bad news so, I feel obligated to report the good. The western wind is blowing fair and TIOBE has returned. This time it's in a new "multi-screen art theater" whereas last time it was at the biggest multiplex. This seems a very strange marketing plan. I guess Miramax hasn't learned the the very vital importance of being...conventional!:-)

The winds aren't blowing in northern NJ. TIOBE is still where it was--four theaters listed in the ad (the photo of the three stars), the same as last week, I believe. At least it's still in the theater very near me, so I have another shot at it. I think four viewings will suffice for me. By the third, I was noticing the intrusive microphone and stuff like that. One of the problems is that, for research, this is not a good film. All of ODB's suits are dark and have long jackets, with the exception of that one country outfit. The best reason for Colin to do HP would be for his son--wouldn't a 12[?]-year old think it's cool that Dad did a HP movie? (Or would having been in Spiderman been so cool for Will that Dad in HP wouldn't be on the scale?)

(Mari) I'd be happy to see him do Harry Potter--at least it would get an extremely wide release and have mass appeal. (Karen)So?????? Is that going to mean anything?? Do you really think this will have any bearing on whether he gets toplined on important project? So?????Do you think he cares? ;-). Since when has an "important project" had priority over "being on the Victoria Line". BTW, many of the Best Actor candidates are coming out of smaller or indie releases nowadays because that's where people are actually acting. BTW those little indie companies don't pay$$$$$ "Ka-Ching";-)

(Evelyn) So?????Do you think he cares? ;-). Not my concern. He's an actor to me. That's all. Since when has an "important project" had priority over "being on the Victoria Line". ain't it the truth. ;-))))))) But you can't stop me from wanting him to show his stuff in something worthwhile. I'm a Katie Morosky at heart. ;-D

(Jane)Miramax apparently doesn't even realize there's a whole continent below the equator I don't think Miramax realized there was a whole continent ABOVE the equator. I had to watch a NY station (I live in NJ) to see a commercial, yet the film is still going stong here-go figure. IMHO, I truly believe they underestimated its appeal. (Karen)But you can't stop me from wanting him to show his stuff in something worthwhile. I wholeheartedly agree!!!, in more ways than one. (Kate)for research, this is not a good film Weelll, I'll give you that, but it certainly has been fun doing the homework.

(Karen)But you can't stop me from wanting him to show his stuff in something worthwhile. Jeans, sweats, boxers, briefs, buff? Sorry, Karen, I just had to double post on your comment, couldn't let that slip away. You know, dog days of summer and all that.

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I was just checking session times for MIB2 here in Minkeeland (yes these are the films 11yrs old boys like!). We have 2 major distributors in the shopping mall venue with multiple screens, Greater Union and Hoyts. They both show TIOBE in their list of films "Coming Soon" so I would think we could look forward to it on at least one screen in most of the malls throughtout Syndey. Hey, where I live, the retiree population is a big part of what keeps these theatres going. Gosford Park is still playing up here after 5 months or so and when I saw it I was the baby of the group. Sooooooo, TIOBE might have a good run. Sorry, there were no specifics on starting dates or places. :))))))

More news from the Great Southern land. In yesterday's Sydney Morning Herald Good Weekend magazine, there is a full page add for TIOBE, the question mark five people, towards the back. If it hadn't been for a great article about David LaChapelle I never would have even opened it up. Confirms it opens on July 4th. It lists the following for info: incinemas.com.au

Hi everyone. Well I'm glad to see Miramax is messing up promotion for TIOBE all over the world and not just here. I was beginning to feel singled out! Bowing to their professional expertise (?) I wondered if they had a death wish for this film? Publicity was pathetic. Advertising started to become visual after it was already being pulled from theaters. The only good thing was Colin got alot of exposure so we got to see him. I really question their mind-set on this one. Very disappointing. The picture itself was really good and the audiences I saw it with really enjoyed it. Why put the money into a project if they're not going to do right by it? Watching BJD for second time today. Nothing else on the tube. However, did anyone catch The Princess Diaries? Ladies if I'm not mistaken if you watch it you will be viewing the kissing cousin to AG. A few minor plot differences, at least from what we have surmised from information on hand at this point, and here's your picture. Definitely same gendre. Basic plot teen being brought out so to speak. Actually it wasn't bad and I liked it. Have been in Jane Austen mode so watched P&P (#1 of course) Emma, Sense & Sens'y and Mansfield Park. As great as I think Emma Thompson is, and she is great, and I know she wrote the screen play, but did she seem a little old for the part opposite HG or is it just me? Also if HG was disinherited for being engaged to Lucy how come brother Robert could marry her and he wasn't disinherited? Just wondered. Don't think this type of film is suitable for HG but then again CF can't do them all.

(lindak)I don't think Miramax realized there was a whole continent ABOVE the equator. (FanPam)I wondered if they had a death wish for this film? Some of us remember the good old days in '99 when Miramax released all 22 prints of MLSF (not counting the one I saw, in which ODB's head melted [really!] on the screen at the Angelika). Said film went hurtling throughout the US via pony express and courier pigeon. Eons later, MLSF made its way to the UK via corked bottle thrown in the Atlantic. We've come a long way, ladies. :-)

Eileen, I was thinking about that same thing. I wasn't on Drool at the time, but I've read the archives from the summer/fall of '99, and there was a great deal of wailing and gnashing of teeth (for good reason) over the nonexistent marketing campaign for MLSF. Sounds like the only way it could have been worse would have been if they had erected barricades in front of the theaters in which it was showing in order to keep people away. I have a background in marketing - should I maybe offer my services to Miramax as a consultant (but only for films starring ODB, of course :-D)?

HI there, I finally found ONE theatre that continues to show TIOBE, it is an arthouse one downtown, lucky me. Hey, what is the difference between P&P1 and P7P2? I have heard them mentioned but would like to know what makes them different, if anything? thanks

LOL sandiclaus!!!!! I have never seen P&P1 but I think i'm at least qualified enough, from my extensive viewing of P&P2, to say the following: Night and Day. P&P2 The version the CF version. beyond that, the adaption is, from what I gather far, far superior to that of P&P1, from the actors (too old???) to the settings (locations) to the costumes(out of time period). Isn't P&P1 regular film length, a la 90 minutes??? P&P2 as a mini series is somthing like 6 hours. Right there you can figure out that the differences will be great. I don't think I would even want to view P&P1 for pleasure because I really don't think I could stand to watch anyone other than CF play Darcy. And, as that goes, JE as Elizabeth! Still, this is all from someone who never saw the first version!

OK I found out my comments were about P&P0....I think!!! P&P1 is still a total mystery though.

Hmmm. Long post ahead... I've seen it, plenty; in fact, I was somewhat stuck on 1 before 2 came along. For this reason, I awaited 2 with great expectations, and was pleased to see "that cute guy from (US released) Advocate and Valmont." I wasn't really happy with the minor liberties they took with the story, though, on the first pass. When it became apparent that he was about to jump into the lake, I remember thinking "Noooo, this is just too much!" Within a few seconds I had changed my mind... Your mileage may vary, but IMO, Garvie makes a much more natural looking heroine, as she's not wig-challenged, my only real problem with Ehle. CF is a much more human Darcy than Rintoul; he's not bad-looking, but it's almost as if he takes the reserved aspect over the top. You don't even get a chance to see what he could have done with the part; did the director tell him just to remain wooden the entire time? This does, however, produce an effect roughly similar to the one in the novel; the viewer hates him as much as Elizabeth does at first. His transformation isn't as evident, either! An argument could be made (and probably has been, elsewhere) that this is a more accurate reflection of the mercenary aspects of the marriage market of the period. There is no reason whatsoever to wonder if he is shy; he's very clearly just plain unsociable. Wickham is much more attractive in 1 than in 2; you can see very clearly how everyone who didn't know better got roped into his deceits. He's also played by a considerably more charming (and better-looking) actor. This was a major complaint for me when 2 came out. There are some genuinely good scenes that move the story along. It is made much clearer that Darcy is out and about at Rosings, hoping to run into Elizabeth in the park, before the proposal scene. And his appearance at Pemberley is, as it is in the book, a complete surprise. I know we had to give that up to get the wet shirt, and I'm not saying I don't appreciate that, but it's one of the strong points in the novel, so I wouldn't have traded it for anything less! There are also some very funny scenes that illustrate Collins' idiocy, beehives and life preservers spring to mind. IIRC it is 4 hours or more long; it's on two tapes at my local rental place. It looks different, too; shot in videotape on a much smaller budget for the BBC only, so the adage "you get what you pay for" definitely applies. You don't see the grand exteriors or interiors and variety of locales that you do in 2; no flashbacks to Ramsgate or school days, no coaching inns, no hunting through the stews of London. The costumes are OK, as I recall, but not as lavish and attractive as in 2, probably also because of financial limitations. In short, and just my .25 (indexed for inflation!) it was good to have the one to tell the story, and now it's even better to have one to drool over, too. Color me grateful!

He's only had 2 public relationships(that we know of) with women before getting married..that hardly qualifies him as some sort of Romeo. LOL Especially by the entertainment industry standards. I honestly don't think his wife has to worry about a "wandering eye" with this one. Digging into the archives of my mind, CF once mentioned in an interview a girlfriend who watched TV all the time and when she left she took the television with her (which he was quite happy about)! So I guess there *must* be other non-public relationships. But, unlike some actors, he does seem to be a very private person, without the need to bolster a sexy "notches on the bedpost" type of image. Slightly OT-ish, "Big Fat Liar" with Amanda Byrnes is getting a major nationwide release (all the multiplexes) over here - far more, I suspect than TIOBE (why the delay?) will get. But probably AG will get the same kind of mainstream treatment when it opens, which has to be good news!

(Eileen) Some of us remember the good old days in '99 when Miramax released all 22 prints of MLSF *snort* Who will ever forget the stellar marketing campaign which required one to board a plane in order to see the movie! I remember seeing it here in Chicago with people who had come in from Iowa and Indiana. Didn't Evelyn fly to Dallas? While it may take great patience and fortitude to be a CF fan, you do get frequent flyer mileage. ;-D Re: P&P0 (Olivier & Garson film), P&P1 (BBC w/ Garvie & Rintoul) and P&P2 (the one)--great critique above. But if you want to discuss it further, would you cut and paste it into our Darcy Drool topic, where many a general P&P discussion has taken place. http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/112/new

(Bethan) So I guess there *must* be other non-public relationships. Naturally. I doubt anyone here thought he was a monk. ;-D

TIOBE finally made it to our "E" market this weekend. My lurker friend and I (with DH's) saw it in a town about an hour and a half away last weekend. Our fear was that it would never come here. Starting to duck now...have to admit it left me cold. CF was lovely in all respects as usual. I thought FO'C was v.g. Rupie gave me the creeps, and I wondered why RW was there at all (along with Tom Wilkinson). Perhaps I wasn't in the right mood? I thought I was ;-) I *will* go see it again at least once in my local theater, since I bitched and moaned to management so much about getting it. ;-) We did have a nice display ad, in which CF featured prominently. If it's different from the one we've seen, I'll scan and send it along.