(Elizabeth) Your mileage may vary, but IMO, Garvie makes a much more natural looking heroine, as she's not wig-challenged, my only real problem with Ehle. Psst... But Ehle won the BAFTA ;-))

(Karen), I doubt anyone here thought he was a monk. ;-D OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...............

I ran across this and thought it was hysterical. In a nutshell, this is our story, dadd-i-o!

*guffaw* Groovy. On another note....oh, dear god! *shaking head*

AG: Think of the bright side--CF in evening clothes (oof...fell over).

Hey boss, ...did you have to rub it in??? AG: Think of the bright side--CF in evening clothes Neat-o;-)) And he won't have to go to the BAFTAs next year;-)

Hi Everyone. Great comment about BAFTAs Evelyn. Unfortunately I agree. What an experience. Was up till daylight again with this wonderful site. This time just scratching the surface of Firth Fiction 159 for the first time. Great job ladies. Enjoying everything. Will go back now. Thank you. According to your 1999 reports it appears Miramax has actually improved. Although there didn't seem to be any problem with BJD was there? Have seen all three cited versions of P&P. Most entertainment value definitely found in P&P 2. No question. Classiest version.

Karen, I've just seen the photo at 1444 - ooohhhh thank you so much for posting it. What a way to start a Monday morning !!!!! Found out yesterday that a cinema not too far from me will be screening TIOBE - YIPEE. Am now trying to think how I can take 4 July off work, even though I'm meant to be attending a staff meeting ;-)

Yahoo! I just got back from TIOBE. My daughter decided to go with me into Nashville to the ONE theater that is showing it. I dearly loved the movie. It was, in my way of thinking, a film that Oscar Wilde, himself, would've approved of. Oscar was, in my understanding, quick-witted, glib, and endearing, and I think the movie embraces all of those qualities. I especially loved ODB's straight man pitted against Rupert's Algemon. Their occasional spats were something that I'll be snickering over for quite awhile.. "And he ate all the muffins".... Of course, Dame Judi was wonderful.. but I've never really seen her in anything that she wasn't wonderful in. FO'C was also quite good, and I even thought Reese did a fairly decent job.. especially since she's just a girl from my hometown. Gawd, "he who must" and RE look sooo good in period clothing, don't they? OK.. enough gushing, though, in my opinion, one cannot gush enough about ODB.

(Jeanie) Gawd, "he who must" and RE look sooo good in period clothing, don't they? Rupie doesn't have those nice broad shoulders to really carry off evening dress like ODB does - but he does look quite at home in Victorian garb all the same. And ODB.... yes, he was absolutely stunning throughout, wasn't he? I especially love both his appearance and his demeanor early in the film, when he's enjoying being Ernest. That wicked look on his face when he "changes" into Ernest on the train is divine, and he looks positively edible when he's lounging around at the music hall, mischief lurking behind his eyes. What did your daughter think of the film and ODB? OK.. enough gushing, though, in my opinion, one cannot gush enough about ODB. No, one cannot! Besides, that's the point of this place, right?

Rachael says , "Like Mom, I enjoyed the chemistry between Rupert and ODB "in a completely heterosexual sort of way, of course".. lol... Me having siblings of my own makes me certainly understand and enjoy the occasional spats and arguments.. I am, also, a rather huge Judi Dench fan, so I'm happy to see her in any movie... and now I'm inspired to look into other Oscar Wilde works. I think I speak for any young American woman who has seen "he who must" in any film when I say "hubba-hubba". It is so rare when someone my age (18) finds an actor, who is older than their dad, who can act and turn them on! No one can pull off period costumes better than CF. Gush, gush, gush.. etc... " ROFL.. i told you she likes him! I'm so glad that I took her with me, because otherwise, and I'll be 40 in December mind you, I would've been the youngest person in the theater.. I haven't seen so much blue hair in one place since I took my mother to "Charlene's Beauty Salon" to get a perm! There was a little ol' octogenarian who sat behind us who had already seen the movie three times! (laughing) Well.. at least our senior citizens in Nashville are intelligent and appear to have good taste.. well, good taste with the exception of hair in colors not found in nature... ;)

Yes, must admit v.v. nice photo (nice hair AND brows)...(have been away) Welcome Jeanie. ...if you can't gush here.....

Well, I made it to #10. Took my brother and sister-in-law-they loved it. My brother was v.hesitant at first, but was almost gushing at the end. TIOBE is still going strong in the same theaters and will be here for the coming week. I leave for Bermuda on Wed. and I figure it may be gone when I get back on Sunday *sobbing and gnashing teeth* so I just had to see it one more time.

(Jeanie) I haven't seen so much blue hair in one place.. Pffft! It would seem that Colin is reaching out and touching "ladies of a certain age's mothers." Is this a shrewd career move or what? ;-D Does Modern Maturity have a 10 Sexiest issue?

Jeanie, congratulations on raising a daughter with such excellent taste!

(Jeanie) I haven't seen so much blue hair in one place.. (Karen) Pffft! It would seem that Colin is reaching out and touching "ladies of a certain age's mothers." Is this a shrewd career move or what? ;-D Does Modern Maturity have a 10 Sexiest issue? On the other hand, I've seen it three times in two different cities (including a weekday matinee), and in each case the audience has had a broad age range. Some seniors in each case, yes, but by no means the majority. So in some places, at least, it's reaching a wider audience.

(Jeanie) I haven't seen so much blue hair in one place.. (Karen)Pffft! It would seem that Colin is reaching out and touching "ladies of a certain age's mothers." Is this a shrewd career move or what? ;-D Does Modern Maturity have a 10 Sexiest issue? (laughing)... nope, "Modern Maturity" only has a "7 Sexiest" issue.. the other three are dead. =P

(Rika)Rupie doesn't have those nice broad shoulders to really carry off evening dress like ODB does Rupie should keep the jacket on. His shoulders slope terribly. In the country scenes, whem they have their jackets off, you can tell that ODB's shoulders are his own. Rupie's jackets must have had VERY thick shoulder pads. (possibly borrowed from Joan Collins?) Linda, # 10!!! That's devotion. I saw BJD about 10 times, but doubt I'll make to 10 for TIOBE. Enjoy Bermuda, listen to the lovely accents and maybe it will bring back memories of ODB. Elizabeth, don't feel bad. I have a friend who liked Garvie's Lizzy better than Ehle's. I think she liked that Mr. Bennet better, too. Of course, she has the good taste to agree that Colin was THE BEST Darcy. Karen, thanks for that ad. LOL! You're amazing, wherever did you find it? (I actually like "Reluctant Debutante," and next time I see it I'll be thinking of that wannabe-cool ad!)

Thanks to Sylvia (via JaneC) and several others (mailbox has been active this a.m.), I've put up an article that appears in the Australian TV Week supplement here: http://www.firth.com/articles/02austvweek.html LOL! Jeanie. Monitor took a hit as I sipping some tea.

Ladies, I am off to Italy for the summer tomorrow. I will as always keep an eye out for ODB. Be good, stay safe and have a firthfilled summer. Arrivederci! :-D

Here's the full-length pic without type all over it: *waving bye bye* Moon Have a great time

Bye Moon. We'll miss ya :-((( Keep eyes open;-) Last year you alerted us about the Locarno premiere of BJD with YKW there! Pretty speedy, Boss. Thanks . I like the look...specially the "pouf".

(Karen)Here's the full-length pic without type all over it Thanks for the picture and article. Is it me, or does he look a lot like Elvis in the pic? We certainly do get frequent sightings of him around here, so it suits him ;-). Have a wonderful vacation, Moon!

What a nice pic! Thanks ladies! Couldn't help but notice the little gold band peeking out. I wonder if Livia pointed out it needs to show in photos.;-)

Have a great summer, Moon! Looking forward to when the Moon shines again on Drool! :-)

(Caribou)Couldn't help but notice the little gold band peeking out. I wonder if Livia pointed out it needs to show in photos.;-) Yes! I noticed that it was visible in the photo that was posted last week, too. (Evelyn)I like the look...specially the "pouf". No! It looks like "helmet hair." I'm hoping it's just because the picture is so dark. Have a great time, Moon!

Definitely "helmet hair." I did a little quick and dirty lightening up, but it still looks very helmet-y. Maybe I'll work on it more later...in my spare (LOL) time. BTW, many pics have shown the ring.

(Lora)Is it me, or does he look a lot like Elvis in the pic? LOL -that's exactly what i thought! it's a bizarr Elvis meets Fonzie look. Who in God's name did his hair??? Thanks for posting it Karen :-D

The hair...the hair oh my she goes off to the corner to mutter.... Actually my first thought was of a wise guy as in Goodfellas, A Bronx Tale, The Sopranos or Analyse This. Especially with the clothes. Thanks for the srticle...why do I miss the few things that we get around here in the GSL? (Great Southern Land) Karen, was there no mention of firth.com in the article????? Bye Moon, enjoy some local red wine for me please.........

Goodbye, Moon, we'll miss you. Good luck on the ODB sightings. Have a safe and wonderful summer. (Karen)BTW, many pics have shown the ring. He had it on in every interview too. Thanks for the picture, Karen-oh that hair problem.

Hate the Elvis-style hair! Ack! *lol* Only in Oz would publish a pic with his hair like that... Elvis is really big here at the moment, I suppose they thought this would be a good thing... *lol*

Have a wonderful summer Moon! You lucky girl. Isn't he supposedly doing a reading somewhere in Italy this month? In every single picture I have of him, out of character that is, the ring is always on, interviews too. Obviously the way he wants it. Great picture and article Karen, thanks. The hair may be (?) but the face is divine. Very Elvisy. I believe he's on Comedy Central tonight in rerun ladies.

Have a great time in Italy, Moon! (lucky girl!) Suddenly I can't get "Viva Las Vegas" out of my head......

"But I actually just recently played a character called Colin in a film (Hope Springs) and I'm thinking of having myself billed in the credits as 'Colin played by Mr Darcy' just so people will know!" Not too shabby but deep down, he's nuthin' but a hounddog. ;-D

Have a great time Moon!! We'll miss you! Hope you have your ODB radar tuned up and tuned in ;-D BTW, No Colin rerun tonight on Daily Show...it's Paul Sorvino.

(Dorine) BTW, No Colin rerun tonight on Daily Show...it's Paul Sorvino. Sigh..... I missed it the first time and was hoping to catch up! I saw TIOBE again this afternoon. They had a poster mounted on a board outside the theater that I hadn't seen before. It could be a blow-up of a newspaper ad (it was in black and white). On the left-hand side, RE sits on the grass in a white shirt and slacks, with RW next to him. The Manor House is in the background in the center. On the right-hand side, ODB sits on the grass, also dressed in white shirt and slacks (and looking very, very fine). FOC is next to him and JD stands close to them. Has anybody else seen this one?

Sorry about the misinformation. But someone said last week on site that it would be rerun tonight. I was all settled in to watch it too. Maybe another night this week as it's obviously going to be reruns.

How is Colin like a hounddog? I missed that?

(Jackie2)How is Colin like a hounddog? In the same way that he's a hunka hunka burnin' love!:-) And for what it's worth, IMO at this stage any exta hair is a good thing.;-) (Rika)Has anybody else seen this one? Yes, they have it outside my local theater also. Too bad I coudn't fit it in my purse.;-) Have a wonderful time, Moon and Linda!

(Jackie) How is Colin like a hounddog? I missed that? Don't know your Elvis songs, do you? (Mari) And for what it's worth, IMO at this stage any exta hair is a good thing.;-) LOL! Calling Hairline Solutions...

Rika, I call that picture the "sex in the country" ad. Has anyone seen that ad next to the "Ernest and his two ladies" ad? At least one of them (probably both) was "assembled" from other pictures. I think both ads show the same picture/pose of FOC with her hand on Colin. (FanPam)In every single picture I have of him, out of character that is, the ring is always on, interviews too. Obviously the way he wants it. Well, he did refer to himself once as a "Smug Married."

Before another church is constructed to commemorate Colin's wearing of a wedding ring, let's put this in perspective. Many actors wear wedding rings. Take a look at this week's Time and Tom Hanks. But they take them off for filming if the character isn't supposed to be married. Now, contrast that with Robert Redford, who didn't even take off his ring then.

(Mari)In the same way that he's a hunka hunka burnin' love! OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH is he ever! Now don't get me started, Mari, just before I leave. I've been good these past few days. I'm taking the lap top, as my daughter informs me there is unlimited internet access at the hotel. If you don't hear from me in the next few days-then it wasn't so unlimited. I need to keep reading that fan fiction -hope there is unlimited cold water:-) AU REVOIR!!!!!!! I hope that's how you spell it.

Now don't get me started, Mari, just before I leave. Get you started??? This, from Ms. Linda-I've-seen-TIOBE-more-times-than-Colin? You'll be knocking on theater doors in Hamilton, asking why they don't have the film yet.;-) I like your daughter's suggestion, BTW--girls are so empathetic, aren't they? Have a great time, Linda. I LOVE Bermuda--one of the prettiest places I've ever been to. Minkeelanders--am waiting for your TIOBE reviews (tapping foot, looking at watch). Surely it must be the 4th already in Oz.;-)

(Mari) And for what it's worth, IMO at this stage any exta hair is a good thing.;-) (Karen) LOL! Calling Hairline Solutions... Now, c'mon, the hair has been looking mighty fine in photos lately, and if the much-debated LBS is visible in TIOBE, I missed it entirely. (Mari)In the same way that he's a hunka hunka burnin' love! Wasn't that one of the leading contenders in the discussion of what Lizzie would call Darcy after the wedding? Right up there with "Mr. Love-Butt," if I recall (which is the one that's been firmly fixed in my mind since seeing "The Advocate" the other night :-D). (Kate F) Rika, I call that picture the "sex in the country" ad. Great name! The look in CF's eyes, along with the open-neck white shirt and light trousers, are just the thing to set the mood for a little snogging in the grass. (Karen) Before another church is constructed to commemorate Colin's wearing of a wedding ring, let's put this in perspective. Many actors wear wedding rings. Take a look at this week's Time and Tom Hanks. But they take them off for filming if the character isn't supposed to be married. Good point. I've thought it odd that anyone would find it surprising to see CF's wedding ring in photos. I suppose if an actor were actively attempting to cultivate a sex-symbol image he might have a reason to try to conceal being married, but heaven knows that's not a factor here.

Rika, Mr. Love Butt. I just saw the Advocate for the first time this afternoon. Perfect description. Plan to see it again tonight. Great stuff. Now we need more movies like this. Also saw Blackadder. Had no clue what it was so was a bit disappointed as I thought it was a regular movie. But got to see more of him in "The making of segment" so wasn't all that bad. Also saw Wings of Fame. Don't really know what to think of the film. I just think there was so much more that could have been done with it. So appeased myself with looking at him. He was gorgeous in this one. Am still trying to figure out how one can do the act on a bed surface with legs crossed and not move, especially the butt. Will have to look at it 1,000 more times till I figure it out. Such mysteries to solve.

I've been catching up after being away for a while, and I must come out of lurkdom to comment on the picture in post 1400 (the napping-in-the-grass shot): ***********Sighhhhhhhhhhhhh**************** Naughty thoughts are forming.... (Muttering) Now, where did I put that Invisibility Cloak???

(Rika)Now, c'mon, the hair has been looking mighty fine in photos lately, and if the much-debated LBS is visible in TIOBE, I missed it entirely. We take pride in our work here at www.hirsutepursuit.com ;-) (Karen)Before another church is constructed to commemorate Colin's wearing of a wedding ring Pfft! (I was gonna ask for a medal for meself;-) Some pics from the AG filming at the link below. Don't get too excited; that's not "Dad" in the boat. Wonder if they're reciting limericks? "I'm boarding you, Daphne!" ;-) http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.asp?navtyp=SRH&logsrch=1

Hmmm, apparently you need to put Amanda Bynes in the "search."

For London folks and those who will be nearby: Subject: Almeida Rehearsal Room Sale on Saturday 20th July 2002 The Almeida is holding a fund raiser on 20 July, selling theatre memorabilia. "A chance to purchase a little piece of Almeida history whether it be a signed script, poster or prop, the sale will take place in our rehearsal room at 108 Upper St in Islington and will be open to the public from 2.00pm to 4.00pm.

Re: the previous report that CF's appearance on The Daily Show would be rerun this week, I note on the web site that Colin Farrell is going to be on tonight. This may have been the source of the original report. Sigh..... and I so wanted to see that Daily Show appearance, which sounded wonderful!

Thanks for the wireimage photos, Mari. The boat scene pix also show up when you search for CF. I had a good laugh while going through his 48 pix when I clicked on key word "smiling". I thought, "Oh, this will be cute." ;-)

(Mari)www.hirsutepursuit.com Love it!!!!!!!!!!!! This will cause giggles whenever I see an example of MPB.

That Washington Post article has popped up again. (asleep at the switch, downunder, huh?) In the Sydney Morning Herald today (but really yesterday): http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/03/1025667006904.html New pic:

What did Uncle Jack say to Cecily about his brother? "He has a choice to be in this life, in the after life or in Australia." Well - here's an early report from the third choice. Attended the 6.45 pm screening with Jane Scott/OzFirthfan at multiplex right in the middle of the City (Sydney). TIOBE in one of the smaller theatres. About 50 in attendance (almost half filled). For not much advance promo - this is good, I suppose. Only about half a dozen males. Wondering how many were Drool lurkers. Jane and I were both flu-ey but, of course, we'd rise from the dead for "He who must..." and both headed home after film so we did not have much chance to discuss film itself. We were of course mesmerised by drooly screen presence of HWM. Shall I put early impressions on 126...best I should I think.

"He's not all that handsome, but having a crush on him has become a pop-culture commonplace." Huh? They come any handsomer??Look at that pic!! " The Darcymania has been a mixed blessing for Firth. Greater celebrity translates into better roles. But the enduring magnetism of Darcy - whom Firth once referred to as "a bizarre doppelganger that I've spawned" - somehow seems to take away from his other accomplishments." What other accomplishments...like Allan Portland...Peter Marshwood...? Thanks Karen...

Lovely pic! What a brilliant smile. Thanks, Karen. Looks like TIOBE will make it here (Singapore)! Yay! Saw the posters in a down town cinema, and the trailers in another. Don't know when it will open, but am happily impatiently anticipating.....

(Karen) the Washing Post article in Sydney Morning Herald. I was away from work yesterday Karen when I saw this article and came in this morning ready to post it but you beat me to it (why am I not surprised!!). I did take the day off to see TIOBE and it was worth the wait. I really liked it. I would have gone to see it (and enjoyed it) even without Colin, but he just made it so much more !!!! I saw MLSF 11 times at the theatre and BJD 13, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to match that with TIOBE; time will tell (if it stays around long enough of course). There were between 40 and 50 people in the theatre and *most* seemed to enjoy it. Two ladies left about three quarters of the way through (???). I loved the singing parts, especially when the credits were rolling. More at 126 when time permits.

(Karen) the Washing Post article in Sydney Morning Herald. I was away from work yesterday Karen when I saw this article and came in this morning ready to post it but you beat me to it (why am I not surprised!!). I did take the day off to see TIOBE and it was worth the wait. I really liked it. I would have gone to see it (and enjoyed it) even without Colin, but he just made it so much more !!!! I saw MLSF 11 times at the theatre and BJD 13, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to match that with TIOBE; time will tell (if it stays around long enough of course). I'm going again on Sunday and probably Monday. There were between 40 and 50 people in the theatre and *most* seemed to enjoy it. Two ladies left about three quarters of the way through (???). I loved the singing parts, especially when the credits were rolling. More at 126 when time permits.

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Cathey) I saw MLSF 11 times at the theatre and BJD 13 Wow!! Those are some substantial numbers you've been putting in. Don't you think Miramax should be creating some kind of "patron" categories for supporters of their films. How many theaters is it playing in in Australia? Is there anyway of getting those numbers? Evelyn noticed that TIOBE was playing in about 200 less theaters in the US from the previous week's stats. I can't understand Miramax's retrenchment distribution strategy, but if they just moved the reels to Australia, what a bunch of bozos. They're not lifting a finger. Tell me that they require an advanced business degree or marketing degree to work there. ;-)

Saw that TIOBE ended in NYC (some theatres) July 2. So, now all there is to say is "NEXT!" I am visiting parents in the 'wonderful' state of WV. TIOBE has not, nor will ever be shown here...I believe. I rewatched "The Net" the other day...and I must admit, JN looks to be a pretty good kisser. happy 4th.

(Evelyn) He's not all that handsome, but having a crush on him has become a pop-culture commonplace." Huh? They come any handsomer?? Look at that pic!! I'm right there with ya! I'd like to see who would make her looks list. (Amy) Saw that TIOBE ended in NYC (some theatres) July 2 Actually I lucked out...it opened at the art house in my neighborhood. I took a friend Tues night. Maybe 1/3 - 1/2 full. Quiet crowd unfortunately. Laughter picked up after Jack returned with the urn. My friend and I laughed quite a bit more, of course. I had to stop myself from reciting along with it, too. 95% of the people left as the credits started...I wanted to shout "Wait, don't miss this!" Didn't overhear any comments. I don't think I'll make it to double digit viewings...guess I'll just be a "Friend of Miramax" rather than a "Patron".

I can't understand Miramax's retrenchment distribution strategy No, they've actually added theaters in the US this week--a big deal 8, so it's up to 216. This is according to Box Office Mojo and "The Numbers" websites. So, you Minkeelanders and getting fresh reels of your own.:-) They're still runnng the same ad in my area, but in the NY papers, Rupie has finally been tacked on to the trio, sticking out lke a sore thumb. Evelyn, have you seen the Possession commercials? Lookin' good! They ran them all day throughout the Wimbledon coverage, and the fiom doesn't open for another month and a half. Universal/USA Films knows how to market.

Gee, could I have any more typos in that message? Sorry. Anyway, this just in: Hope Springs will be rated PG-13 in the US for "sexual content and language." I had been hoping for an R . . . sigh;-) Still no firm release date other than "later this year."

(Mari) They're still runnng the same ad in my area, but in the NY papers, Rupie has finally been tacked on to the trio, sticking out lke a sore thumb. What NY papers has everyone seen a trio in? The Times runs an ad daily, the first few weeks with the movie poster with the 5 of them, then the 4 of them on the lawn the past few weeks. Hope Springs will be rated PG-13 in the US for "sexual content and language." I had been hoping for an R . . . sigh;-) Still no firm release date other than "later this year." Sept 6 isn't a firm date? I just looked the other day and that was still the date listed. Matter of fact, I was impressed that he has 2 openings on 2 different continents on the same day. What a whirlwind PR tour he'll be doing in late Aug/early Sept I would imagine. Maybe the others will do more PR in the UK. PG-13....Ugh!! Is a towel scene allowed in a PG-13? I guess that means HGm will be keeping her clothes on, which I would think means the scene at the motel just after she and Colin come back from the monument will be severely altered or deleted.

Another note about the theatre in Sydney that Minkee and I attended last night. There were how many flights of stairs Minkee? 10 or 12?? I had to turn to her and ask "Don't they know that CF's fan base is mainly blue-haired old ladies?? What are they doing making us go up and down all these stairs?!" Enjoyed the film very much, as expected. I did think I spotted some MPB in a couple of places, though. Particularly as he's looking up the stairs at lady Bracknell's house....

Glad to hear Yahoo was wrong in the # of theatres...last week they said 444 for Earnest and this week 208. "Make up ya' mind!"!! Not here yet. Didn't expect a HS R rating from Buena Vista. They do family -stuff. You can take you aunt to this one too, Bethan;-) Think AG will be G.You gotta hit those 10 & 12 yr. olds ;-) Ogod. What next :-((((

(Evelyn) Think AG will be G.You gotta hit those 10 & 12 yr. olds ;-) Ogod. What next :-(((( Direct to video, a la Mary Kate and Ashley ;-D

(Dorine)Direct to video, a la Mary Kate and Ashley ;-D Gah! Dont know whether to laugh or cry! *please God -NO!*

(Evelyn) Think AG will be G.You gotta hit those 10 & 12 yr. olds ;-) Ogod. What next :-(((( (Dorine)Direct to video, a la Mary Kate and Ashley ;-D LOL.*We've* done that too...RV. And a few that didn't even get that far;-) L'dum and DQ.

=/ ...Purposely ignoring the Mary Kate and Ashley straight to home video statements lest I toss my wheaties. LOL! Hey, I'm back! After $700 worth of repair work from my attempting to add ram, my computer is finally working again... However, much to my chagrin, I now find that my monitor is broken and I'm using one of my old ones that only works plugged into the video card. (looking for length of rope and a wobbly chair) Went to see TIOBE, again, Wednesday. This time I was actually able to keep my mind more on the dialogue and plot instead of being caught up in "He who must"'s dynamic screen presence, although I was experiencing slippage from time to time. This time around I took my 16 year old son, Sam. He seemed to enjoy it, but once again.. we were the two youngest people in the theater!!!! It's just a strange Nashville phenomenon, I suppose. I, also, read all of "New Cardiff" and have read most of it a second time around to my husband, who is really enjoying it. I think this role appears to be pretty much tailor-made for "He who must be adored", and wouldn't it be something if this film became as popular as "The Graduate"?! He watched her spin around several more times. 'You know something,' he said, seating himself on the edge of the bed, 'actually I may take some of them off.' 'Don't just take some of them off. Take them all off.' 'I don't know if I'm as joyful as you are yet.' 'You will be, once they're off.' Colin bent forward to untie his shoes...

Karen, I'm chiming in a little late here (been out of town for a couple of days), but thanks for the photo along with the re-appearance of the Post article. What a gorgeous photo! That Washington Post interview keeps resurfacing, doesn't it? DH was very proud of himself when he brought that section of the Post to me. "Here's an article about that actor who played Mr. Darcy - you like him, right?" he said. The poor dear - he has no idea that "like" is a bit of an understatement.

Hi Everyone, Thanks for photo Karen. Will HS be in general release as opposed to art theater release. Maybe then it'll have a chance. I agree, PG-13 does not leave much hope for great fantasy but will take anything we can get. Would be great if it was same calliber as The Graduate, but feel times were different then and subject matter was daring at that time. Today anything goes so impact will be much less. Still looking forward with eager anticipation to promotional tour interviews and alot of screen time for him. Hoping AG will atleast be PG-13 so we can see a little ankle at least. In all seriousness, do you really feel he doesn't do scenes like in the Advocate and Wings of Fame, ATA was rather tame, didn't really show anything, because he's married now, or is it possible he feels uncomfortable and just doesn't like doing them. I'm glad atleast that I've got the Advocate in case they never happen again. Was thinking the other day ... could definitely see him as one of the Three Musketeers....hmmmm

(Karen)Don't you think Miramax should be creating some kind of "patron" categories for supporters of their films. YES! Great idea! A Frequent Viewer program. Send in your tickets stubs to get "bum-hours" redeemable for, uh, let's see. How about discounts on viewings of future CF films, pre-reserved seats in theaters (including a guaranteed empty seat in front of you), special commemerative packets of tissues for wiping drool off chins, reserved milk-crate to stand on at premieres...

(Jeanie) wouldn't it be something if this film became as popular as "The Graduate"?! (Pam) Would be great if it was same calliber as The Graduate Skies are gorgeously blue, but, as ever, I must step in to rain on everyone's parade. Let's not assume that HS can be anywhere near as good as The Graduate. That film was written by Buck Henry and, in case you didn't know, Buck Henry is a major writing talent. In other words, Mark Herman ain't no Buck Henry. But to clear away a few of the clouds, PG-13 doesn't mean it will be devoid of nudity or sexuality. Exposed breasts fall into PG-13, as well as people in bed. Below-the-waist stuff (frontal) is out, especially of the male variety, which is always NC-17, although female usually qualifies as R. Backsides of either sex are R or PG-13. Now, people actually doing something in bed depends on what they're doing. You start getting a lot of thrusting motion (even below sheets) and you're in R territory; without sheets: NC-17. (Pam) Will HS be in general release as opposed to art theater release. From what I was told, that hadn't been decided yet. I think when they have a better feel for the public's reaction to the film, they will know. Seems fairly mainstream to me. (Pam) do you really feel he doesn't do scenes like in the Advocate and Wings of Fame...because he's married now, or is it possible he feels uncomfortable and just doesn't like doing them. Well, he's already said he doesn't like doing them, but very few actors would disagree. However, I'd bet he thinks he's too old for them (body wasn't in as good shape, remember his pudginess), just as he thought he was too old for leading man parts. But that could be a convenient excuse as well because everyone knows Hollywood films have no problem whatsoever with more mature leading men.

(Jeanie) wouldn't it be something if this film became as popular as "The Graduate"?! (Pam) Would be great if it was same calliber as The Graduate Skies are gorgeously blue, but, as ever, I must step in to rain on everyone's parade. Let's not assume that HS can be anywhere near as good as The Graduate. That film was written by Buck Henry and, in case you didn't know, Buck Henry is a major writing talent. In other words, Mark Herman ain't no Buck Henry. But we can hope, can't we,(Laughing) "Oh ye rational web goddess of level-headedness and all things Colinary?" I know.. I know... I'm such a Pollyanna. Oh, and I was gonna comment on "he who must's" hair... my husband's hair is exactly like his. About two weeks after Tom has his hair cut, it has that poofy "Elvis" televangelist thing going.. it's the length, not the style.. lol.. but, I always like it much better after about a month when it becomes all soft silky curls running amuck. Tom also has the thinning on the crown, but when your hair grows in a spiral from the crown like their's do, it makes that thinning spot much more noticeable. It's good hair to run fingers through.. ;D You just can't do much to it as far as styling goes.. lol.. but the curls are worth it, methinks.

RE: Frequent viewer benefits: In Australia, TIOBE seems to be playing at Hoyts cinemas exclusively, and they have "cinema cash" discount tickets available, minimum of 10 per purchase @ $9.90 each. Considering the regular movie ticket prices here are around $14.00 each, that's not a bad savings - I'm planning on getting a pack of 10 so I can see TIOBE as many times as I want. :-D They can't be used on Saturday nights, and are only good for 6 months, but I figure I can always share them with friends for viewing TIOBE while it's here...

(Jeanie) It's good hair to run fingers through.. ;D Lucky you, a husband who still has hair!!!!!! Both of the main cinema complexes here, Hoyts and Greater Union list TIOBE as "now showing". GU has it currently at 5 cinemas in the Sydney area and Hoyts has it at 4. This doesn't include any info on independent theatres. (There are several in my area, none of which are showing it.......yet!!!!!!) Why don't they make these cinema sites so you can navigate by film as opposed to the cinema complex???? Would make the job sooooo much easier.

I'm delurking to find out if anyone knows where the following picture of CF came from: I found it while idling away my time doing a Google image search for CF pictures. Any clues? Thanks for the help! Liz

Oops, I obviously goofed in posting the link to the mystery CF picture. Why don't I just post the link to the page I created instead? http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3mr4u/index.html Let's see if that works better. Again, any help is appreciated in figuring out where this picture came from! Liz

(Amy)Saw that TIOBE ended in NYC (some theatres) July 2. Did it? In today's NYTimes, there's a lovely big ad for TIOBE, about a half page. Several theaters are listed for Manhattan and points more remote. Northern NJ has five screens, which may be one more than last week. This ad uses the newly assembled picture with the four leads (Rupie tacked onto the previously used three-person picture). Has anyone else seen this one? Rupie's photo is seriously retouched--he looks much younger than he does in the film. I'd almost think it was someone else, but there is that hint of sloping shoulders... If Rupie weren't smiling, I'd caption his picture, "Colin got all the women in this picture, but it's never gonna happen again."

Hey Lisa - yourmovies.com.au will give you a listing by movie title. Have just returned from my second viewing in downtown Sydney, and I have to say - the sight of all those old ladies climbing up and down all those stairs is truly tragic!! *lol* The theatre managers should be shot! About 75 - 100 at this viewing - that "word-of-mouth" thing must be working! Mostly women again, and as I said, many blue-hairs. The poor old dears...

(laughing).. ok, Jane, I guess it's an "Sydney & Nashville" sort of thing. LOL! There were three old ladies with walkers when I saw the movie on Sunday, and one on Wednesday, as well. Yep.. and the bones they were acreakin' as they climbed up and down the stairs. LOL! Of course, mine snap and crackle too, so I really have no room to criticize. By the time I'm their age I'll probably already be in the ground, or, at least, in a chair..but still... how strange this whole situation is! Perhaps it takes them back to when movies weren't full of four-letter-words,sex scenes, and raunchy innuendo. I dunno... but a ticket purchased, with or without blue hair, is a good thingie, yes? =D Lisa.. yes, I'm lucky that my husband has "Colin Hair".. now if he only had his build.. hmmmm... lol. My ear is acting up again, by the way, so get writing, woman! (laughing) I'm sure you don't have anything better to do but to entertain me, right? ;) Liz, I'm clueless about the Russian stamp picture, but I bet Karen will know. It's a cute one, though.. he looks all scruffy.

(KateF) A Frequent Viewer program. Send in your tickets stubs to get "bum-hours" LOL! I love your ideas. Maybe you should apply to Miramax and they seriously have no ideas at all. Nice to read that our Aussie contingent is supporting TIOBE. It is a fun movie and one you shouldn't hesitate to recommend to every blue-haired person you know or meet on the street. ;-D BTW, I've put up a listing at Topic 158 of all the films we haven't yet discussed. Looks like we have a group that's chomping at the bit to do one this summer and some of us oldies are game as well. So put in your two cents now while we're deciding which one to do.

Hmmm, I've checked the TIOBE listings for my area, and one reel has moved to another suburb (way out) but the one closest to me looks to have cut back on the showings: only 2 per day. It must be sharing a screen with the Ya-Yas. :-( Pathetic! If only they would run a commercial or two here, maybe it would be doing better as it is on the east coast. You gotta try to lead a horse to water once and awhile, otherwise, they'll get the same reponse in the future and write us off.

Jeanie, thanks for mentioning that you were clueless about the scruffy CF picture, too == I was thinking I was missing something obvious. Karen, does it ring any bells with you? If not, it's obviously unidentifiable, or simply a Russian lookalike. I think I may have figured out how to make the picture show up. Let's see if this works . . . Liz

Yes, I've seen the picture used on the stamp before. Are you here to join in our discussions, Liz?

re: the stamp - If he were wearing a different shirt he'd look quite Heathcliffian. TIOBE is still hanging in here in D.C. in the same theatres that have had it all along. They seem to still be using the "Colin and his harem" ad - this week I saw it in both the Post and the Baltimore Sun. But the multiplex nearest me (which shows mostly limited-distribution films) has a bunch of films advertised as "coming soon," so I suspect it will be replaced before long. I'm going again this week (probably the last time) and this time I might inquire about custody of the "sex in the country" poster when the run ends. I was a bit melancholy seeing the promotional push "Possession" is getting on TV during Wimbledon - too bad they didn't do something like that for TIOBE.

I could've swore I saw that TIOBE was ending in some theatres on 7/2 (from TimeOut magazine)....oh well. wrong i guess (not the first time!) I also read some where that TIOBE was supposed to be out on DVD in October...reguardless of the date, I hope it has all the "missing scenes" as mentioned in the above article.

BTW if anyone can translate: http://www.filmweb.no/bvi/13828.html (it lists HS as opening 1/03)

THIS HOLIDAY TREAT YOURSELF TO SOMETHING SPARKLING, DELICIOUS & SEXY! Sorry I didn't mean to yell but the new ad uses caps and when I typed it in using upper and lower case, it just didn't have the same effect. They took one word each from the Boston Globe, New York Observer, and CBS-TV. The best part is "the trio" is on a fireworks background! Okay, they are very subtle black and white fireworks but I don't think I've ever seen a Firth photo like that before. :-)

Cute...any chance you can scan the new advert on to the Boss for posting?

Karen, So you've seen the stamp? Tell me more -- I have no doubt that you know the story behind it! About whether I intend to join the discussions: I've been lurking for months, ever since I saw Bridget Jones's Diary. I've posted a few times, but I've always been a bit shy about it, especially in this very knowledgeable company. To add my 2 cents on a few topics that have come up in my months of lurking, though: -- The "wet shirt" question: CF's "wet shirt" appearance in P&P2 didn't do much for me, I'm afraid. Now if he had taken that dive without the shirt, etc. as he was apparently willing to do . . . -- The "roles" question: While I'd also like to see him in more substantial parts, I hesitate to criticize him for seemingly putting family first in deciding which parts to go after, since I think I'd make the same choice. I do sometimes think, though, that he's been shy about really putting himself out there in a prominent film role since Valmont flopped. It seems to me that most of his best roles (except for P&P2 and BJD, of course) were before Valmont -- I thought he did his best work in AMITC. I would also guess that his bad experience with Valmont had more to do with his bailing out of Hamlet than any filmaking conflicts"last year, once it became clear that a few other well-known actors were also doing this role. I do hope he goes for the Ted Hughes role in the Sylvia Plath movie, though -- it could be a good one. Anyway, enough for now . . . Back to watching P&P2 for the umpteenth time! Liz

Ah, Liz.. a woman after my own heart. (giggling) I've actually gone three days without watching my favorite parts of P&P2.. that might almost be a record for me! LOL! Can a DVD wear out?

A little tidbit I find interesting.....as I listen again to CF's Fresh Air interview from last year, I noted he says about himself that he has a neutral appearance. At the time he was referring to himself as a character actor rather than a leading man. Then I remembered the writer in the Washington Post article said: Firth's not all that handsome�his neutral actor's face can be substantially altered by expression and makeup�but having a crush on Colin has become a pop-culture commonplace. I would be surprised that the writer did research that included Fresh Air interviews. If not, I find it quite a coincidence that this particular word was used by both to describe him.

I know I shouldn't already be posting again, sorry, Karen, for taking up space, but I just had to say "NEUTRAL, MY HINEY!" (laughing) Anyone who would claim such a thing needs to see the optometrist or be admitted to a mental health facility. I mean, even little ol' grandmas with walkers and blue hair realize "He who must"'s attraction... LOL.. I had one of those women sitting behind me Wednesday and practically every time that HWMBA appeared in a scene she'd whisper.. "Oh MY GAWD.. Martha, look at those dimples!" (laughing)Sam, my 16 year old, whispered "And I thought YOU had it bad!" Yup, "Oh Fearless Leader", I dooo believe "HWM" is well on the way to becoming a poster child/pin-up for the AARP. On another note... is there a place somewhere that has people's, those who post on this site, place of orgin, email,icq, messenger identification and such? Please forgive me if I'm asking something that I should already know about, but in my abundant ignorance have overlooked.

(Jeanie)Can a DVD wear out? Supposedly not, but they may not have been tested for Drool-level use. The neutral face comment goes way back. It was mentioned in interviews/articles when P&P2 first came out, including the one in A&E Monthly (Before it was called Biography, A&E's mag was A&E Monthly.) In fact, I thought most of what was in the little article in a recent Biography was largely lifted from the old A&E Monthly. Another description of Colin that goes way back is "blandly handsome," which I suppose is a variation on "neutral." I think what makes him handsome is not his features, but how expressive his face is. When he smiles and those dimples show, he's AFG! oops, must go find towel to wipe up puddle of drool on desk

Hi Everyone, Thanks Karen for answering my questions. Jeanie & Liz, you're not alone. My kids want to know how I can keep watching P&P over and over and over again. I'm glad to know you do too. I just ignore them now. At first I thought maybe I was being a little over zealous. But I just like to look at him in that roll sooooo much forget it. I have 3 copies of the tape. One the original 6 tapes and 2 tapes I copied so I rotate them so they don't all get used up too fast. Only way I can do it. Also have doubles of my favorites that I watch all the time FP RV TA BJD MLSF etc. Hopefully they will last longer this way. As far as him feeling too old and out of shape, who is in better shape? Looks good to me. For example Sean Connery and Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan all James Bonds and all more mature in the roll. Anyone complaining? Certainly not me. Especially where Messers. Connery and Brosnan are concerned. Come on Colin give a little of it up for us. PLEASE!!!!! In many articles CF is even quoted saying he is moderate looking and made different by the make-up. So that's been around for a long time. Too bad these writers can't update their info. But perhaps he doesn't see the glowing eyes, beautiful expressions, tantalizing dimples and irrisistable sex-appeal that we do, when he looks in the mirror. Enough Pam, time to go dream.

Almost forgot to post that on July 5, the day after it opened here in Oz, TIOBE is listed as the #10 movie in the top ten list -- not bad for a film which has had ZERO publicity here! Go you blue-hairs!! Grey power rules! ;-)