When Colin looks in the mirror, he is a man looking at a man. When we see him on the screen, we are (mostly) women looking at a man. That makes quite a difference in one's basic perceptions! ;-)

(Jeanie) I had one of those women sitting behind me Wednesday and practically every time that HWMBA appeared in a scene she'd whisper.. "Oh MY GAWD.. Martha, look at those dimples!" ROTFL! But, hey, Martha's friend knows nice dimples when she sees them! (laughing)Sam, my 16 year old, whispered "And I thought YOU had it bad!" Of course he hasn't read what you write here! Yup, "Oh Fearless Leader", I dooo believe "HWM" is well on the way to becoming a poster child/pin-up for the AARP. Hey, these are experienced women who can appreciate a good thing when they see it! The good news, though, is that younger women are not totally without taste. I was cruising through the RoP P&P board today and there were a couple of young CF fans (college age, I think) who posted that they were totally taken with him in BJD, which led them to watch P&P2. Much drooling would probably have ensued except that they were in the wrong place for that.

(Kate) The neutral face comment goes way back. Quite right. It does go "way back" and Colin mentions it all the time. I'm surprised though that one of our resident Firthologists hasn't come forward with the time, date and place of the original citation. ;-D Re: the stamp I've seen it on eBay but have never looked into the matter or been terribly interested. Not being a stamp collector, I do recall that a number of small countries were putting famous people on their postage as a source of revenue. Whether these Colin stamps are "really" legal postage in Russia, I have no idea. When I saw them on eBay, I put them in the same category as Colin pillowcases, refrigerator magnets, and baby bibs. I scrolled over them. You should check with the seller(s).

(Kate) The neutral face comment goes way back. (Karen) Quite right. It does go "way back" and Colin mentions it all the time. Oh well. Guess it's not so interesting anymore. I've read old articles, but guess I haven't gone back far enough or noticed the comments anywhere else. While I agree his looks can be adapted quite well depending on character, I still would never use neutral to describe him...even if he does. And that's true he's looking at himself as a man...I wouldn't expect him to come out and say "Yeah, I'm really sexy and look hot!" Not in public anyway. That's why we're here. :-)

Thanks to Karen and Emma (Graphics Queen!) for the new heading on the AG page. You make us look good.

(Oh, Fearless Leader)When I saw them on eBay, I put them in the same category as Colin pillowcases, refrigerator magnets, and baby bibs. Would that be drool bibs??

Thanks for the info, Karen! Apparently there are companies that create fake stamps ostensibly issued by various Russian republics -- looks like this is one of the fakes. There's one on e-bay right now with a photo of CF from Fever Pitch, I think. The real puzzle for me, though, is which movie or interview the photo of CF is from. The others I saw were very clearly from a particular movie, based on CF's hair style and dress -- one was from Fever Pitch and one was from Shakespeare in Love, for example -- but I can't match this particular stamp to a particular movie. Must be one that I haven't seen yet. The hair looks like P&P2 without the sideburns, and the shirt's not ringing any bells. That's for helping to satisfy my curiosity demon! Liz

I think the stamp is from Nostromo. Same beard and hair. Shirt might have been when he was in the mines. But I ain't gonna go through that 5 hour mini-series to find it. ZZZZZZZZ Either that or he was auditioning for Randolph Ash in Possession;-)

A compendium of quotes: "Tumbledown," he says, changed his career. "Before that I was beginning to slip into a lot of callow youths," said Mr. Firth. "If I've got a rather neutral face, it doesn't make much sense to put me in rather neutral roles." - NYT (1/14/96) "As for my attraction, I have a kind of neutral face, a face that can be transformed to look a lot better or a lot worse, depending on the circumstances." D (La Repubblica, 10/01 - but it was a recycled quote then) "Firth's face was once described in The New York Times as 'strangely neutral'." (The Observer, 4/9/00) "His face is oddly neutral most of the time - it is his eyes which give meaning to the dark, flat voice and much of the time, he holds them away." (The Guardian, 2/10/96, having to do with TEP) "Luckily, Firth has 'never been a fan of highly demonstrative acting' and is known for having a neutral face with tremendously expressive eyes. (A&E mag, 12/96) "I have a sort of neutrality about my appearance and my background which is applicable in a lot of different directions. I'm just about educated enough, I'm just about well-spoken enough. I've got enough of a voice, I'm neutral enough looking, I can be good-looking enough, I can be unattractive enough. I'm in absolute pole position really, all of the advantages . . . there are no complaints here at all." (Attitude Mag, 4/97 for FP) As you can see, Colin himself has been the one to promote his own "neutrality." I take it as a modest way to respond to questions about his looks (whether they are heart-throb or leading man looks questions). While guys may not see what women do, a good-looking guy *knows* he is attractive to women.

Oh yes, the source of the stamp's pic. It too goes way back. It's been used a lot. The Guardian used to have it up on its Brit Actors Data Base for Colin. Can you imagine? What a poor choice IMO. While I can't be positive of its provenance, I'd bet it was from Master of the Moor.

(Evelyn)...any chance you can scan the new advert on to the Boss for posting? Turns out, there was a slight chance and my DH and I think we have done it! Now we wait to see if it is useable or if Karen will change her email and not tell me the new address. :-) Re stamp: That picture just doesn't look like him to me but, I've been wrong before. I clearly have not studied enough. ;-) (Karen)I take it as a modest way to respond to questions about his looks (whether they are heart-throb or leading man looks questions). I whole-heartedly agree. He has learned he has to give them something and that is the lesser of all evils. I think he probably meets interviewers who can't breathe in his presence (women) and others who find it hard to believe that anyone considers him handsome (men) so, it is an answer that works for all of them. (Karen)... a good-looking guy *knows* he is attractive to women. Reminded me of the conversation Moon and Birkin had about Mrs. Keach. :-)

Yes, Caribou and her DH have done it. Oh, you mean scanning! ;-D Here's the ad and thanks to both of you.

Oooof! I see what I did wrong. Try again.

I shall conquer this!!!!!

(Karen) I take it as a modest way to respond to questions about his looks. I agree. I imagine it's a tough spot to be in to have to answer questions like that and not come off as cocky and self-absorbed. Modesty and self-deprecation can be quite sexy too. While guys may not see what women do, a good-looking guy *knows* he is attractive to women. And vice versa. Holy Moly Karen! That's really digging into archives for examples. Do you have them memorized? Or a really good reference system. I don't think I've read much if anything prior to 2000. I remember the La Repubblica quote though. Thanks!

The "stamp" photo was a Fever Pitch promotional pic. That TIOBE ad is the one that's been running here locally. Karen, you can put Eileen Atkins down as Dashwood's mother.

My take on the neutrality thing. I read it as CF giving a take on his looks as neutral. But, I read more that the writers of the articles, with one or two exceptions of morons, view his acting style as using his expressions/emotions neutrally. Still am shaking head over the quote about him not being handsome!!!!!!!!!

(Karen)Let's not assume that HS can be anywhere near as good as The Graduate. That film was written by Buck Henry and, in case you didn't know, Buck Henry is a major writing talent. And directed by the brilliant Mike Nichols. I completely agree with Karen. And that's not raining on anyone's parade, it's just being realistic. The Graduate (one of the few cases where a film is better than the book on which it was based) was a seminal work, a watershed for the films to come. The themes of disaffected youth, the "generation gap," alienation from society, and rejection of materialism set the stage for the golden age of film to come in the '70s. HS, while I enjoyed the book, ain't that kinda animal.:-( Not even close. IMO, there is nothing to distinguish it from other rom-coms. (Dorine)Sept 6 isn't a firm date? I just looked the other day and that was still the date listed. You can't always go by what's on the imdb. The data there is submitted by people like you and me--and they often know less than we do. None of the release date websites (which get their updates from the studios) list a date for HS. While guys may not see what women do, a good-looking guy *knows* he is attractive to women. Of course. I cringe when he makes those neutrality statements because, to me, it seems he's rather given it a bit too much thought.;-)

LOL and blushing so, I won't quote you. ;-D Thanks for the help Karen. Excellent job! The fireworks look better than I had feared.

(Dorine)Sept 6 isn't a firm date? I just looked the other day and that was still the date listed. (Mari) You can't always go by what's on the imdb Actually I looked yesterday again after Amy said she saw it was pushed back to '03, and they all had changed to Fall 2002. (Lisa) Still am shaking head over the quote about him not being handsome!!!!!!!!! I'm still flabbergasted by that as well! Different strokes for different folks! ;-P

Pam, sometime when you're watching P&P watch carefully the piano scene. You will see him drop his eyes to her bosom. It is just a second but you'll see he does it. If I remember it right it is during the "You are perfectly right," dialog.

Thanks Lucie, will definitely check it out. I think men are aware when they are good looking. How could they not. It comes down to if they let their good looks affect their personality or not. We've all met men who have. Look at young boys or men for that matter. How many wanted to look like Elvis or Paul McCartney. Why because they were good looking and they thought so too. Same goes for women. We acknowledge beautiful women, that is if we're honest. He has to *know* he is handsome and sexy. Millions of women can't be wrong. Even my boys say they can see where women find him attractive. And I'm sure he's heard or seen the reaction he causes since he was very young. He's just very, very, cool and secure about it and himself which makes you like him even more. And when these stupid interviewers capitalize on it, expecting him to react to it like a 20 year old instead of the more mature man he is, he obviously down plays it. I read where Cary Grant didn't think he was anything special, nor does Pierce Brosnan. Let's be realistic. It doesn't get much better than these three. But anyone who doesn't think the master is handsome, male or female, is out of their minds. I took my two 12 year old nieces to TIOBE today. They laughed and seemed to like it. In passing I said his son is their age and was in a recent movie. Can't believe I drew a blank, they think I'm kind of cool. Could someone please refresh my memory. They said they'd catch him when the video comes out in six months or so. They're probably right, at last they're releasing the good ones in a timely manner. Harry Potter was within six months. Right. Thanks for the info.

(Mari) The "stamp" photo was a Fever Pitch promotional pic. !@#$ I knew I should never have changed my initial answer. Always go with your gut. ;-D And directed by the brilliant Mike Nichols. Quite right. And thanks for the update on Eileen Atkins, much appreciated.

(mari)I completely agree with Karen. And that's not raining on anyone's parade, it's just being realistic. Oh dear, I hope I haven't offended anyone. =/ The only reason I replied to Karen's "rain on your parade" statement was because I love teasing people that I admire... an old habit of mine that sometimes doesn't translate well via this form of communication. I know I am completely cluess when it comes to such things, whereas Karen's knowledge is quite remarkable. (re:(Dorine) Holy Moly Karen! That's really digging into archives for examples. Do you have them memorized?) So, please, if I post something that ANYONE finds in any way offensive, please let me know, because.. more than likely.. I've simply rattled something off without thinking much about how it might be construed.

Minkeeland report on TIOBE Went to see it today (Monday)delayed attendance because of flu. There has been minimal publicity, but papers today carried full page ads of the poster. It is school holidays here and cinema had Monday $5 deal compared to $14.00 normally. Also we have MIB2, Spiderman etc etc the usual teenage pap during school holidays. Theatre was full, mixed crowd but mainly young girls, which we thought would be due to the Reece factor. Leading us to think we were in the wrong theatre. The critics have not been kind, taking the "purist" line against the extra scenes. Some philistines even suggested that CF & RE seemed bored with their lines. You begin to wonder if they saw the same picture. The audience reaction was great much laughter and none of that restlessness when you're watching a real stinker hoping it will get better. Back to the critics, if the film was shot entirley in "drawing rooms" I think they would complain about the claustophobic atmosphere and OP's lack of vision. The additional scenes worked for me. Then I liked Baz Lurman's Romeo & Juliet. Yes I will be going back for a repeat viewing, since I was concentrating on dimples and MPB, my friend informed me I missed some other interesting details

(Jeanie) Oh dear, I hope I haven't offended anyone. Not me. Trust me, your humor comes through on each and every post. (Anna) Back to the critics, if the film was shot entirley in "drawing rooms" I think they would complain about the claustophobic atmosphere and OP's lack of vision. Taking it out of the drawing room isn't the problem, as we've been discussing on 126, but never you mind, the public doesn't read reviews or even realize that OP has changed the play. ;-D *yawn, am bored with critics*

My $0.02 (there is no 'cents' key on my keyboard....never noticed...): As for neutrality in the looks dept., I would have to say that would be assigned to CF's brother. I only bring this up because I was watching Wuthering Heights last night and never realized JF was in it. At times, I could see a resemblance, but he is one guy that really blends into the wallpaper (my opinion). BTW it seems there is such an incestuous relationship in British movies. They must all know each other.... And Liz (I think it was Liz), in response to those knowing more about the topic at hand...not true. I am the Sargent Schultz of CF! and...can't see karen's pic. anyone else?

The "stamp" photo was a Fever Pitch promotional pic Doesn't the stamp one have a beard? Or is it just shadows on his face. Lousy pic...for a promo, IMO. Thanks to Caribou and Karen for the scan of Earnest. I think it's the best advert I've seen. (Hide Rupe!) Good to hear reports from Oz.

Was just sorting my old LPs and found a Style Council record (Our Favourite Shop) that has a poster of AC on the cover (with other pictures on a wall). But only RE is shown :-( Still, it's extremely cool. I can't believe how much time has gone by, though. Ugh. Regarding ODB's 'neutralness', he must be aware of his ability to turn on the good looks. Watch him in the kitchen scene in BJD. I once yelled at my friend, "He's doing that on purpose!". Those dimples are being worked overtime! Was that directed, I wonder? I imagine Sharon shouting, "More dimples, Colin, and blush for me." So I think this neutral quality is an asset in that he can play a variety of types. Except that when I watch him, I always think he's adorable ;-) Has anyone seen a video for Secret Garden being sold in Hallmark stores? I swear I saw it and it said there was a featurette with it. I kept wondering if ODB was in this extra bit so went back to the store and not only can I not find the thing, but no one remembers it at any Hallmark store I've been to. I'm starting to think I dreamed it. What a waste of dream time! Doesn't the kid in SG look like James Van Der Beek? He doesn't use the same name but I'd swear it's the same guy. TIOBE is still playing here in Edmonton, in one theatre. It gets better the more I see it. I've stopped critiquing it.

Upcoming Movies has a preview page up for American Girl: http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808415450&intl=us (Jeanie)I love teasing people that I admire... Me too! You didn't offend me in the least, honey. Firthermore, your guesses and opinions are just as valid as anyone else's here. As the screenwriter William Goldman once said about so-called "experts" predicting how a given film will fare: "nobody knows nuthin'." Please keep calling them as you see them.:-) Glad to hear the Minkeelanders are enjoying Earnest! Thanks for the reports. I am LOL about the seemingly worldwide phenomenon of the blue hairs. Sydney and Nashville must be sister cities.;-) Weekend box office here looked ok: despite Mirasucks having added only a handful of theaters, the $$ were actually up 7% this weekend, with the total nearing $6 million so far.

Thanks Mari for the Yahoo page. Sounds like AG project has been around for at least since 1999 with various directors and scriptwriters on board. Would be interesting to know who else they had in mind for ole dad's role. Doubt the title will stay...a pity since The Bucket's page is so attractive.

(Evelyn)Thanks to Caribou and Karen for the scan of Earnest. I think it's the best advert I've seen. (Hide Rupe!) I saw the fireworks ad, too. I swear, the narrow crop on that photo makes the women look even closer to him than in other ads. (she said, enviously) Alas, last weekend's ad had Rupie "gumped" into the picture. V. Odd look about him, too. I'd scan it, but this isn't the RE site... Back to the neutrality thing. I agree that it's a good stock answer for questions about his looks, albeit a little tired now. But I think his original point was that his looks could be changed--as if his face is his blank canvas on which he can put various expressions and/or makeup. I remember one interview, done in England, where he was fussing about having to cross a main street in Islington (like, oh @#$% what if I'm recognized), and saying that he could slouch a bit to look less obvious. (Don't know the source of this. Your mission, Boss, should you decide to accept it...)

Thank you for the link Mari. Perhaps most importantly, does she have a chance at being the Debutante of the Year? Uh Oh, I don't know about anyone else but this sounds like speculation from last month and it wasn't pretty then. Genre: British, Drama, Musical, Remake, Romance, Teen OH NO OH PLEASE NOOOOO

Will test for red as I thought I turned that color off..... :)))))) That should do it....

Hope you like it this way, I may never get it back to black If it's till red I'm in big trouble.

Nobody's gonna die...yet. ;-D You fixed all the tags even though it may not look like to most. (Kate) Don't know the source of this. Your mission, Boss, should you decide to accept it... *cue music* I don't even need the MI crew for this. His fear of crossing Upper Street was in the same article with the Shoreditch pics (black trainers, white laces, beer); I even referred to in my Katie interview for Moon's b-day. http://www.spring.net/karenr/articles/times060500.html Thanks for letting us know about the AG page. Suddenly I have a craving for a milkshake and fries. And everyone knows, the "more writers the better." *snort*

(Karen) "more writers the better." *snort* *snort* is right...just glad I didn't have a mouthful of Coke at that minute

Thanks for the article link Karen as I hadn't read it before. You know I can't let it go without a comment about the shoes. I hope you're keeping a list for when things get slow in here and we have to have our shoe talk. BTW, have tried to get rid of the red again as I still have it. (Half the time.) :)))))

Mari, thanks for the AG info...too bad Daphne's not a 'Jersey girl' anymore ;-). (Evelyn)Doubt the title will stay...a pity since The Bucket's page is so attractive. Maybe the title will stay since this film is going through with production first. That has to count for something. And The Bucket's AG page is great. The colors really stand out, Karen. Glad to hear so many (types ;-)) are going to see it in Minkeeland and enjoying it!

(Me)Maybe the title will stay since this film is going through with production first. Oops, sorry, read it too fast and realize now there are 3 AG's (not 2), and that #2 is already ready for a release date. Maybe that one can be The All-American Girl and #3 can be changed to The President's Girl (no yuck, that sounds like it could be an intern :-/)...can't believe how popular the title is.

(Lucie) Pam, sometime when you're watching P&P watch carefully the piano scene. You will see him drop his eyes to her bosom. It is just a second but you'll see he does it. That's so funny, because Sam, my 16 year old, calls P&P2 "Boobies"!! LOL!! He wanted to also tell you that Darcy glances down at Elizabeth's chest that first night at Netherfield after he pushes back in his chair and stares at her right at the end of the scene. (dying of laughter) (laughing) I thought only adolescent boys noticed such things! =P

Hi, everyone, it's good to be back-thought I came down with some kind of disease and was seeing red. My, you girls have been busy. I'm just trying to catch up. Thanks for all the new pictures and (old articles) I'm enjoying them. As you can tell there was NOT unlimited computer access in Bermuda. I was able to log on one night through the lobby pc, but I couldn't post. Powderpuff Girls and MIB2 are in the two Hamilton theaters. I did speak to one of the British shop girls as I was looking for a Burberry's tie for my DH.(He's going to kill me yet) She said they are waiting for TIOBE, but releases are terribly slow there. She said she did hear that they will have it by the fall and couldn't wait to see it. She was a big CF fan and so I told her about us and wrote down some info for her. Maybe she'll post. OK, Mari, so maybe I have seen TIOBE more times than Colin. I'll always remember my first time was with you!!!

found this bit (most likely old news): anyone know of its validity? Carry on Doctor... Colin Firth is the latest name to be connected with BBC boss Greg Dyke's inspired British "blockbuster" version of 'Dr Who'. Budgeted at �15 million the film is set to be directed by Russell Mulcahy ('Highlander'). Final casting decisions are due to be announced in July, with shooting set to begin in autumn.

(Bryonny) Watch him in the kitchen scene in BJD. I once yelled at my friend, "He's doing that on purpose!". Those dimples are being worked overtime! Was that directed, I wonder? LOL! They're very talented ones, aren't they? They're "neutrally", bland ambidextrous, too. He can make just one show (but usually favoring the left one) at a time! I think they do show up more, though, when he's extremely trim as he was in BJD. I adore that scene, too.. especially "Do you by any chance have any beetroot cubes, mini gherkin, stuffed olive?" "No Pam.. and besides, I'm busy. The gravy needs sieving." "Surely not. Just stir it, Una." Such a cute moment! =) Now, if we can only get his smootching on the same level as his facial caves, we'll be doing just fine!

(Amy) Colin Firth is the latest name to be connected with BBC boss Greg Dyke's inspired British "blockbuster" version of 'Dr Who'. Oh God NO!!!! I used to watch Dr. Who all the time on the Miami PBS station many moons ago. I DON"T see Colin in this. Yuck! (Tom Baker was the Sean Connery of Dr. Who's). I read something recently about a new Dr. Who, but can't remember who was touted in that article.

(Bryonny) Watch him in the kitchen scene in BJD. I once yelled at my friend, "He's doing that on purpose!". Those dimples are being worked overtime! Was that directed, I wonder? LOL! They're very talented ones, aren't they? They're "neutrally", bland ambidextrous, too. He can make just one show (but usually favoring the left one) at a time! I think they do show up more, though, when he's extremely trim as he was in BJD. I adore that scene, too.. especially "Do you by any chance have any beetroot cubes, mini gherkin, stuffed olive?" "No Pam.. and besides, I'm busy. The gravy needs sieving." "Surely not. Just stir it, Una." Such a cute moment! =) Now, if we can only get his smootching on the same level as his facial caves, we'll be doing just fine!

You know... I REALLY need to stop watching HWM's dvds on my computer while I post, here. LOL! Sorry about that. Dr. Who??? (pulling Karen's voo-doo doll out from under the sofa cushion where I hid it the other day)

(Dorine)Oh God NO!!!! I used to watch Dr. Who all the time So did I, and I definitely hope this is just nonsense. Nevah, nevah, nevah! (Jeanie) They're very talented ones, aren't they? They're "neutrally", bland ambidextrous, too. He can make just one show (but usually favoring the left one) at a time! I think they do show up more, though, when he's extremely trim Oh what I could do with this comment...But, I'll be good--lets see we are talking about the dimples, right? I agree Jeanie with everything you said. I think they're just absolutely adorable too.

(Lucie) You will see him drop his eyes to her bosom. It is just a second but you'll see he does it. (Jeanie) That's so funny, because Sam, my 16 year old, calls P&P2 "Boobies"!! LOL!! He wanted to also tell you that Darcy glances down at Elizabeth's chest that first night at Netherfield after he pushes back in his chair and stares at her right at the end of the scene. (dying of laughter) really? interesting, never noticed that before. must watch P&P2 again and pay close attention to where Colin moves his eyes during these scenes.

That's so funny, because Sam, my 16 year old, calls P&P2 "Boobies"!! Oh my gawd Jeannie, I just doused my monitor with Diet Coke. Too funny :) And there's more...look carefully at the early scene at Lucas Lodge where she turns down his offer to dance, as well. I see these and wonder about the shooting schedule bumping up against real life, too. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there were more, and will look for them. I do so love a project. :) Would this be the intelligent woman's TV drinking game, then, more mannered than "Hi Bob" or "Blue Velvet Frank?" :) now you know why I refrain...

Thanks for all your thoughts about the mystery Russian stamp photo of CF! Mari sounds sure it's from FP. I scrolled through dozens of photos *such a terrible chore), and I tend to agree. Master of the Moor would have been my 2nd choice based on the photos I've seen (haven't seen the movie yet, though). (Dorine, about Dr. Who speculation): Tom Baker is the Sean Connery of Dr. Who's. As I read Dorine's comment I had this vision of Tom Baker morphing into CF, with CF's long red-and-white Arsenal scarf and curly, unruly hair. Even if CF could take the Tube to the studio, surely he wouldn't trade Mr. Darcy for the Doctor! Well, I suppose it couldn't be worse than L'dum. . . . Now here's hoping I didn't mess up with the italics, or you'll all send me back to lurkdom! Liz

(Linda) Oh what I could do with this comment...lets see we are talking about the dimples, right? LOL! I hear the wheels turning! But, I'll be good Please don't be on our account ;-D (Bryonny) Watch him in the kitchen scene in BJD. Those dimples are being worked overtime! My favorite dimple display in that scene is while they discuss her playing in his paddling pool. Love that expression when he agrees with it being so pervy...the dimples, the deeper voice, the smirking eyes (not sure how to describe that).

(LizJP) I had this vision of Tom Baker morphing into CF, with CF's long red-and-white Arsenal scarf and curly, unruly hair. ROTFL!!! And instead of that floppy hat Tom Baker had, CF could have the humpy hat from P&P :-D (Elizabeth) I do so love a project. :) I never noticed any surreptitious glances to a particular area before. My plate is kind of full, but there's always room for a project like this ;-)

Hmm, Dr. Who... I guess Baker was the definitive Doctor, although I've always had a soft spot for Peter Davison. I think there were rumors of Colin as Dr. Who a few years back, then nothing happened. I can't say I like this idea. Part of the charm of the original series was the almost camp feel to it. I don't think a "blockbuster" movie can capture the essence of the Doctor. (Karen)I don't even need the MI crew for this. You never do, oh, She Who Knows All Things Colin!

(Evelyn)Doubt the title will stay...a pity since The Bucket's page is so attractive. I'm tellin' ya . . . "Gidget Goes To London." ;-) Am sure the Boss can dig up something attractive with surfboards and cool kids dancing the frug.;-) (Karen)Suddenly I have a craving for a milkshake and fries Oooh, Moondoggie, make mine a malted!:-) Welcome back, Linda. I *knew* you'd be spreading the gospel earnestly abroad!:-) I tracked down the "Fever Pitchsky" stamp pic at Meluchie's site. BTW, the publication dates listed there for some of the FP articles (1996) is incorrect. http://www.grin.net/~meluchie/feverpitch0.htm

Kate, I also was a fan of Peter Davison...liked him from All Creatures Great and Small. And most of the fun of Dr Who was the campiness wasn't it. ;-)

Glad you like the AG page, but I have my Art Director Emma to thank for taking a concept and turning it into something fabulous. :) (Jeanie) I thought only adolescent boys noticed such things! =P Is not the word 'adolescent' unnecessary? ;-D BTW, we have this other topic, called Darcy Drool, which would be perfect for P&P discussions, or to get myself in the AG mood, does it have cooties? http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/112/new Those involving cleavage do take me back to Ben's days here and his devotion to JE talents. ;-D (Amy) found this bit (most likely old news): anyone know of its validity? Quite right. Very old news and debunked numerous times. Trust me, if you come across some "old" news item that says Colin is to appear in x, y or z production, and you've never heard of it or there's nothing on it at The Bucket, then it's not going to happen. So "Fever Pitchsky" (good one, Mari!) was in the Guardian, no wonder they used it for their file photo of Colin for the longest time.... hey, it's still there: http://film.guardian.co.uk/Player/Player_Page/0,4159,45378,00.html

He is the Master of Expressions. It seems in BJD that he has a different expression and look in every scene he's in. Quite an achievement. Darcy's glances. Who could help it in the Wonder Bra dresses! Add to it his relationship with her and he obviously couldn't help himself. Note when she's singing at Pemberly, nothing more to say. The Man, any man, can't help it. I'll tell you MIB 2 is well-marketed. It just opened here and seems to be universal. Way to go. Take some lessons Miramax! Also Harry Potter 2 November release is already being touted. These are professional marketers. Can someone please tell me the movie his son appeared in. Thank you.

Oh my, most important things first. Elizabeth count me "in" on that project. All other comments will be at 112 Karen. Promise. (Have many thoughts on the boob issue.) I don't know a D*** thing about Dr. Who although I have heard the name. Is it worth enlightening us out of the loop or should we wait for more definite info????? Must lament once again about the description of AG...not drama...musical...teen pic???? At least change drama to comedy............ Went to take my 11 year old to see SPIDERMAN today...it's the one FANPAM...and watched to see if I could spot just which boy in the tram was William Joseph Firth. They listed only two boys with credits for all the kids that were in that scene. There was one at the beginning that got a good shot and one at the end. I am considering a mail order business here in Minkeeland (love that name) for the untouched niche of CF videos and DVD's that are not available here. There must be uncountable others in my position. I could list my site especially to gather up all the devotees from Darwin to Hobart who are in the same boat as me...no access to ODB's films. Australia Post is very cheap to mail throughout our Great Southern Land. :))))))

Reposting Kate's from above: (Mari)I'm tellin' ya . . . "Gidget Goes To London." ;-) Well, at least it wouldn't be a remake--I think Gidget went to Paris. And would Colin be required to know how to surf? (Euuw! Just had an image of Colin saying "Dude!") (Jeanie) I thought only adolescent boys noticed such things! =P (Karen)Is not the word 'adolescent' unnecessary? ;-D LOL!!!! Aren't they all adolescents (regardless of age) in some way or another?!? (Lisa) watched to see if I could spot just which boy in the tram was William Joseph Firth. Ditto! the movie was enjoyable, but I sat there thinking, "Se where's the $%^&* tram scene?" I think he's the one you see at the end of the scene. (I thought the other boy was too young) He's wearing a baseball cap (The A's, maybe?) I assume Colin has seen the movie. I wonder what it felt like to see his kid on the big screen? Tech Update from Me If you've messed up the ending tag (and why is it always that one and not the opening one???), just close it in the next message. It will not look closed because the "bad" message is still up on the monitor. To check, leave the topic and then come back in using a /new url, then back up one message, using the redisplay box below (-1). If you've done it correctly, you should be able to verify it in this way.

For all you that complained about TIOBE being shown at the Paris Theater in NYC, I saw this: Magnolia Pictures nabbed solid numbers at the box office this weekend, opening Jacques Audiard's "Read My Lips" at the Paris Theater in New York and earning more than $27,000. The debut, at a venue which is historically a great theater for foreign-language films... "But when The Paris, which is possibly the highest grossing screen for foreign language films in the country was made available on July 5th, we jumped at it." And you thought it was a dump and no one went to it. Sounds like a perfect place for an English-language film. ;-D

(Dorine)I also was a fan of Peter Davison...liked him from All Creatures Great and Small I too, was a PD fan from All Creatures, and his mystery series from A&E. And, yes, Dorine my wheels are always turning. Hang Ten(Just watch the direction their hangin) Cow-a-Bunga!

OOoooook! I've laughed all morning at you girls and your "Gidgit Goes To London"! LOL! Too funny! Now then, I have several screen captures of a cute boy with big brown eyes from the "tram scene" from Spidey (please don't ask me how or where I got them, or I'll have to kill you... heeee heeee) should I send these to Karen and see if it's Mr. Will?

Don't know if anyone has picked up on this - OT-ish - but according to the Sunday Times, Working Title (producers of BJD) are to produce a film version of "Pride and Prejudice". Francis McDormand to play Mrs Bennett. No other casting announced.

Comments to OT on O&E, please. :) You can email me the caps, Jeannie, although I am wondering how you have them...

(Karen) Jeannie...I am wondering how you have them... She's been shopping in Chinatown ;-)

My contribution to the "neutral looks" thread : I am risking total disclosure here as the persons involved in my story might be a lurker here, for all I know. Hosting a UK work colleague at the moment. During work lunch TIOBE was topic of conversation briefly - mostly centred on ODB. I am a closet drooleur so most of conversation were led by others, not me. Then met Aussie friend for dinner. UK work colleague joined us. Aussie friend asked what I've been doing lately and told her I've just seen TIOBE. She starts to dissect ODB's physical attributes. UK colleague expressed surprised at the number of women doing the ODB swoon. Turns out she socialised with him during his Drama school days. Her comment : he was gangly and spotty. Always quiet and reserved during parties.

(maryw) UK colleague expressed surprised at the number of women doing the ODB swoon. Turns out she socialised with him during his Drama school days. Her comment : he was gangly and spotty. Always quiet and reserved during parties. Perhaps she didn't care for him because he wasn't in a humor to give consequence to young ladies who were slighted by other men at these parties. =P Here's To Gangly, Spotty, and Bland Neutrality and those ambidextrously dimpled men who suffer from it!

Hmmmm... thought I'd posted this... I have seen a tv commercial this week for TIOBE here in 'minkeeland' - twice! Seems Miramax have decide to do at least some PR here - even if it's post-release. Sydney-siders who are interested in meeting on Sunday in the city for lunch and a 1:15 viewing of TIOBE, please email either minkee or myself. We're interested in getting a group together, if possible. Discounted tix available.

Paris theater: And you thought it was a dump and no one went to it It *is* a dump...the only thing that gives it class is that it's across the street from the Plaza and the only of *two* theatres (Angelika, the other) that shows foreign films in NYC.Possibly the "only * one for obscure ones; if that gives it prestige. One sinks into the seats waaaaaay down, and the sound stinks. Of course next to the Ritzy in Brixton (SLOW premiere), the Paris is a showplace;-) Great news about the Sydney mini-Spring reunion. Wish I were going to be there with you.

(Evelyn) the only of *two* theatres (Angelika, the other) that shows foreign films in NYC Actually it's nice that the theater in my neighborhood in Queens where Earnest is now plays foreign films as well. It also has Atanarjuat(sp?), The Fast Runner (the Inuit movie) at the moment and went through a phase of several Indian films. (We have a decent sized Indian/Pakistani contingent here). Before it was renovated, it was a porn theater for many years (before I moved here) ;-) Plays other first-runs too (off to Insomnia tonight--bargain night at $5.) Of course next to the Ritzy in Brixton (SLOW premiere), the Paris is a showplace;-) Brixton..in the UK? Isn't there a big prison there?

Hi Lisa thanks for info on Spiderman. Will tell my nieces. Ladies checked out the eye-mammary glands contact. Right on target. Will search out more as I'm sure there are and now know his way of doing it. Minkee, this woman was surprised? She didn't think he changed over the past 20 years, she didn't even acknowledge how handsome he is? Where's she been? Did she say this with a straight face or maybe she was kidding? Hard to believe she wouldn't acknowledge his appeal.

Please bear with me ladies. I have been in so many topics tonight I can't remember where I've read anything. Do you think a big-screen P&P will be successful? Possibly before the advent of the VCR but anyone whose interested probably has P&P2 so I don't know how it will do. And I admit being prejudice but I don't see how they can top this cast and that's what they'll have to do to make it successful. And as we all know the best Darcy is already on film so I really don't know what they hope to accomplish or how they can better it. I don't think it would be feasible to have CF play the roll in the movie. I don't think he would want to and if he did how could he make Darcy any better than he already has? Have gone to 112 DarcyDrool to post. Has this been closed out because there are no recent postings. Has it been continued in another section? If so please let me know where it is. Also in discussing leering looks let us not forget Lizzy's rather long and obvious glance at Darcy's chest in his wet s irt. That's a classic and makes me giggle ever time I see it. Tom Hanks is on Colin O'Brian. What a great guy he is.

Excuse me, CONAN O'Brian. Guess we know whose on my mind.

http://www.edfilmfest.org.uk/2002/events/script_factory_earnest/ Nice pic!

Yes, it is. Had no idea Earnest was going to be at Edinburgh. Doubt they'll be canceling out on OP's masterclass. ;-D

Notice that Film Four is an "associate"...but they aren't long for this world;-)

Here's the line-up for the Edinburgh Fest. Heather G's "Guru" is also there. http://www.screendaily.com/story.asp?storyid=8858 Wondering if they might debut Hope Springs at the Toronto Fest, which is in September. (Kate) At least it wouldn't be a remake--I think Gidget went to Paris. Well, I know she went to Rome. And Hawaii. Had sudden premonition: a year from now, we'll all be here dissecting Colin's latest appearance on The Daily Show, during which Jon Stweart tells CF that AG "is definitely the best film in the Gidget series." ;-)

Colin has probably heard of Gidget, at least. Can't blame him for not knowing about Ernest/Jim Varney ;-)

oops! Mari, you're right, she did go to Rome, not Paris. I don't know if Colin has heard of Gidget. I just looked in a movie reference book I have and the original Gidget move was 1959, and the TV series was 1965. (What? You don't think I'd ever admit to REMEMBERING these things!?!?!?) (Minkee)women doing the ODB swoon HELLO! What a perfect expression! As for gangly, I'll take those long legs any day! See? A little maturity, a few movement classes, and "gangly" transforms to a great stride.

(Mari)Had sudden premonition: a year from now, we'll all be here dissecting Colin's latest appearance on The Daily Show, during which Jon Stweart tells CF that AG "is definitely the best film in the Gidget series." ;-) (Meredith)Colin has probably heard of Gidget, at least. Can't blame him for not knowing about Ernest/Jim Varney ;-) LOL!!! Now that Colin has been on the Daily Show once, maybe next time he'll know how to be ready with some Jon Stewart type humor and answer what you have proposed, Mari, with, "Well, we had thought of calling it 'Debs do Derbyshire' or 'Daphne does Derby,' but then we would have had to change the rating." ;-) ;-)

(Kate)As for gangly, I'll take those long legs any day! See? A little maturity, a few movement classes, and "gangly" transforms to a great stride. Like a fine wine, he's aged to perfection ;-)

(Kate) re: Gidget (What? You don't think I'd ever admit to REMEMBERING these things!?!?!?) LOL! None of us fashionable women who have chosen to remain 35 for a number of years would be able to recall anything from 37+ years ago. ;-) LOL! Nice show Mari and Lora. That's the kind of humor I have come to expect on Drool -- at least a year ahead of time. :-)

yup.. as Mary Poppins once said,(he's) "practically perfect in every way." Of course we all know the great attributes of a "gangly" man.. lol.. as my momma used to say, "honey, they have to carry their weight somewhere!" (Caribou) LOL! None of us fashionable women who have chosen to remain 35 for a number of years would be able to recall anything from 37+ years ago. ;-) No, of course not! (floating teeth in a glass, making a metamucil cocktail, and sitting back to several hours of the "Matlock" marathon)

(Mari) Jon Stweart tells CF that AG "is definitely the best film in the Gidget series." ;-) And I know for a fact that these ARE done as school productions in England. Waddaya think of Kelly Preston doing a duet with James Darren?? Another Drool Rool: As long as he does comedy, so will we. ;-D Jeanie has sent me her screen caps. Since we don't post such images here, I will direct all active participants and supporters of Spring, who can email me at "my office," to a place where they can be viewed.

Hmmm . . . US release date info for Hope Springs has been removed from the imdb. Maybe they got offended when I said to pay them no mind.;-) UK date still listed as November. Karen, have you heard any more on this? (Lora)Well, we had thought of calling it 'Debs do Derbyshire' or 'Daphne does Derby,' but then we would have had to change the rating." ;-) PFFT! A script with that title would never have made it past the long red nail of LD.;-) My concern over AG is that the Gidget purists will not be satisfied.;-) Gidge's parents divorced? In what lifetime?! Not in the original! And the father is better looking than any of the boys Gidget is dating? Nevah happen! Harrumph!;-)

(Mari)My concern over AG is that the Gidget purists will not be satisfied. LOL, Mari. If we can deal with the Wildean purists, then we can certainly deal with this bunch.

(mari) Well, I know she went to Rome. And Hawaii. Had sudden premonition: a year from now, we'll all be here dissecting Colin's latest appearance on The Daily Show, during which Jon Stweart tells CF that AG "is definitely the best film in the Gidget series." ;-) Cringe and shudder. (jeanie) as my momma used to say, "honey, they have to carry their weight somewhere! My mother never said that! Very insightful woman, your mother! (karen) Waddaya think of Kelly Preston doing a duet with James Darren?? Please, I'm having indigestion trying to swallow a 'teen musical drama' and you have to make jokes!!!!! (mari)A script with that title would never have made it past the long red nail of LD.;-) Yep, she's touching up the colour and filing them into nice little points as we type, going over tomorrow's lines to be sure nothing gets past her while Colin is in the other room tuning up his guitar for his duet with Mrs. Travolta! There was singing in Gidget, wasn't there? Surely in the Hawaiian one. Tiny Bubbles...... And...speaking of LD, what do you think she might have said when ODB told her he wanted to take a part opposite 'Rollergirl'? ***snort*** Not that I mind hearing anything about what would be accurate, but the context of the gangly spotty remark makes me think the orginial source was a little cruel. I too vote for the woman scorned school of thought!!!!!!!

(jeanie) as my momma used to say, "honey, they have to carry their weight somewhere! But the real question is...on what side do they carry it?

(mari)A script with that title would never have made it past the long red nail of LD.;-) (Lisa) Yep, she's touching up the colour and filing them into nice little points as we type, going over tomorrow's lines to be sure nothing gets past her while Colin is in the other room tuning up his guitar for his duet with Mrs. Travolta! There was singing in Gidget, wasn't there? Surely in the Hawaiian one. Tiny Bubbles...... This would've been a very trying day for me if not for you girls. I've laughed so hard that my stomach is hurting. You should have more compassion on an old blue-haired lady with a weak bladder. I can't wait until this mondo bodacious flick comes out starring "Daddy-O the Real Cool Cat", cuz he's buzzin cuzzin, the absolute most and will look so dreamy sporting a beaver-tail while jammin' on a ukulele. Like Wowsville....

(Mari)My concern over AG is that the Gidget purists will not be satisfied. (Linda) If we can deal with the Wildean purists, then we can certainly deal with this bunch. Oh yeah?! *she picks up her bongo drums and walks off toward the surf*

(Lisa) There was singing in Gidget, wasn't there? Surely in the Hawaiian one. Tiny Bubbles...... This is worth the long load time: Click here

Brava, Mari and Karen, for tracking down the source of the "Fever Pitchsky" stamp! Mystery solved!

Karen, LOL!! Where DO you find this stuff?

(Mari)My concern over AG is that the Gidget purists will not be satisfied. (Linda) If we can deal with the Wildean purists, then we can certainly deal with this bunch. Oh yeah?! *she picks up her bongo drums and walks off toward the surf* ...to be joined by frankie, annette and connie francis....