Well done Rika. It was like seeing the movie again. And I'm with you, where does one apply for KP's job in this one? My favorite look from WAGW is the post punch. I don't remember ever seeing that look in his other movies. Second favorite is when he hugs Daphne after telling her he loves her (Awwwwww). He had much more chemistry with AB than with KP, imo.

Great Job Rika. Thank you so much. Will enjoy over and over again.

#79 - And she got paid to do this! Some girls have all the luck. Heck, I'd have worked overtime and for free! Thanks Rika, they are lovely. Now I really miss HD:-(

HD is still around in my part of the world, though down to one theater. Just saw him yesterday.

Thanks, Rika for my special request. ;-) Unfortunately, the graininess takes away some of the detail. Will wait patiently for the quality copy. Still love the part where he leans against the swing set legs, too.

Thank you, Rika. I think my favourite site is the stubble one. Can't wait to see it "in motion" ;-) Once again, I really like your captures. Makes the viewing even more enjoyable!

(Linda)Thanks Rika, they are lovely. Now I really miss HD:-( Going through HD withdrawal was worse than I expected, so I was thrilled to see that Rika has come through for us again. Thanks so much, Rika, you have made my day. #9 is probably my favorite because it shows how much intensity he put into this role. But then there's #37, and I love that whole playground sequence. And can't you just feel that hug he gives Daphne after she says 'I love you, Dad"? Rika, wasn't it your DH who said you can see what Colin is thinking? And the Stubble - Wow! I know this was a lot of work, Rika. Thanks again.

HD withdrawal is v. v. tough. It isn't playing at any theaters near me any longer (can only hope that it makes its way to the pub theater...Hunk Daddy and a glass of wine would be very nice)! (Hen) But then there's #37, and I love that whole playground sequence. Me too! #37 has that 'hint o' dimple' that just makes me loopy (loopier than normal, I should say). Also love the entire dance floor sequence with Libby. I was just obsessing over his eyelashes (I know, I need a life...I realize that) the other day. His lashes appear to grow very straight....love how they look when he has his eyes closed or nearly closed...those pics on the dance floor just do me in!!! And thank you Rika!

Lovely Rika! I hear the Beatles song was really dedicated to you. ;-)

(Tress)I was just obsessing over his eyelashes (I know, I need a life...I realize that) the other day. You're not alone! Did you notice how great they looked in one of the pictures recently posted from the SIL premiere, when he was looking down? For some reason #63 makes me think of Edward Pettigrew. (Moon) Lovely Rika! I hear the Beatles song was really dedicated to you. ;-) That's me, the metermaid! ;-)

My, my Rika! Once again a lovely job. I just noticed your great work is growing in my "favorites" file! I love going back to Valentine's Day;-)

(Rika) You're not alone! Did you notice how great they looked in one of the pictures recently posted from the SIL premiere, when he was looking down? Oh yes! I noticed! I like it when he looks down (as when he was signing autographs in the SIL pics)...great eyelash viewing. I think it gets me because it is that 'pre-kiss look' that he does. Since he's taller than many of his female co-stars, his eyes are half shut...like in the final scenes of BJD and I noticed it (for some reason) in ATA as Jess kisses Ginny. I'm like Pavlov's dog...I start to pant when I see his lids going dowwwwnnnn...;-)

Lovely job Rika, you are too good to us in your multi-faceted way! You are a true proficient! (Tress) I'm like Pavlov's dog...I start to pant when I see his lids going dowwwwnnnn...;-) ...and also when he gives full dimples; ...and also when he's got the walk fully cranked up; ...and also when he does that laugh thing; ...and also when he does the hand-to-mouth thing... ...etc etc OK, OK, I'll stop, much more panting and I'll hyperventilate!

Rika, You are truly amazing! Thanks for all these wonderful captures. ODB does indeed look wonderful in this movie, but IMHO, he looks even better in HS. I'm off for my 4th viewing tomorrow night, just to confirm this opinion! To be honest, I've a feeling it won't be showing for much longer, so I wanted to see him one last time on the big screen, before I have to wait for the DVD.

(Tress)...great eyelash viewing. I think it gets me because it is that 'pre-kiss look' that he does. Yes, the eyelashes from the SIL picture...I've been thinking about them for days. And I know what you mean by the "pre kiss" look. Oh Gawd. I miss HD, I do, I do. Withdrawl is v. painful, indeed. Poxy UK critics...a hunk of HS would have done the trick:-(((( no offense intended to our UK ladies)

Rika, this looks good. I haven't met HD yet, (still another 2 months to go), but by the time I do meet him, we'll be old friends. Thanks

This is a few years old, so chances are most of you have seen it...but, impassioned pleas from a AFG passionate man for a good cause on a Thursday morning in May are never a bad thing,are they? http://www.survival-international.org/bushmanfilms.htm

Indeed they are not! Thanks, Maria - that was new to me.

Lovely captures, Rika. Thanks.

(Maria)impassioned pleas from .. for a good cause... Not bad at all, no! New to me as well. Thank you Maria. Once again, I wish I had a computer, that worked properly - but blurry is better than nothing.

(Maria)...but, impassioned pleas from a AFG passionate man for a good cause on a Thursday morning in May are never a bad thing,are they? I don't know about Survival, but it sure was good for my cause:-) I saw this a while back but couldn't access it. Thanks, Maria. That AFG man certainly brightened up my grey May afternoon.

Rika Thanks a lot for the lovely captures, especially since I still have not seen WAGW on the big screen. It helps to endure the waiting;-).

I've just returned from my fourth(and I believe final) viewing of HS - not showing in the Glasgow area next week. I'm so looking forward to the DVD's release. There are some wonderful captures in this movie! Cue Rika!! My faves would have to be: 1) The towel scene, leaning against the wall, after he discards the scarf 2) The restaurant scene with Mandy (reminiscent of his look outside Bridget's flat in the snow) 3) His half-smile, showing dimples, when he wakes in the morning, and finds Mandy looking at him OK! I'll be honest, just about any scene in the movie!!

(Janet) His half-smile, showing dimples, when he wakes in the morning, and finds Mandy looking at him Ohhhh....did I tell you how envious I am? Can't wait to see this...on DVD. ;-( Like that he wakes smiling...the opposite of Mark Darcy's reaction at the beginning of TEOR!

(Janet)I've just returned from my fourth(and I believe final) viewing of HS Withdrawl is a b--ch. But you are so lucky:-) I like your #1. A towel scene...oh I can't take it. Crawling back to my cave of CF film withdrawl. Heck, I'm even withdrawling from Janet's withdrawl.

(Linda)Withdrawl is a b--ch. But you are so lucky:-) I like your #1. A towel scene...oh I can't take it. Crawling back to my cave of CF film withdrawl. Heck, I'm even withdrawling from Janet's withdrawl. Linda! You'd get MVP for CF viewing in any country is my guess. That's one hell of a Jones you've got there! I've got to content myself with my smallish screen and my library (with a special thanks to KR! Would love to see that towel scene for myself. I thank all of the UK droolers so much for sharing.

The list of capture spots sounds v. tantalizing, Janet! We'll have to see how soon it's out on DVD over here. re: the towel scene, I saw a clip of the early part of it. He looked so good before he put on the scarf that I was mad that they didn't just let him answer the door looking gorgeous.

Wouldn't a discussion of scenes in a newly released film belong on Spoilers?? Gee, I thought that's what that topic was all about... ;-)

Had to look again several times today. Thanks again Rika. Wonderful job as usual.

Sorry, Karen! I know now I should have posted under Spoilers, but the discussion of screen captures veered off into another topic without me realising!

Perhaps if we talk/think about "scenes" and parts of the movie we like, instead of captures.

Woo Hoo!! WAGW is now at my local $1. movie (50cents on Tuesday!!) LOL.Won't swell the BO receipts, but nice for "sayonnara" viewing;-)

Perhaps if we talk/think about "scenes" and parts of the movie we like, instead of captures Yes, but with ODB of all people, I would think *visuals* are just as important at times. ;-) Especially when some people are deprived of big screen viewing and in between premieres, apearances, etc. Or anytime really. Isn't that one of the big reasons we're here? To Drool? Kinda tough to drool over typeface. ;-)

(Drool) Kinda tough to drool over typeface. ;-) I dunno. I was drooling this aft *listening* to "The One Before the Last" . Let me tell you, Colin reciting Rupert Brooke's poetry is a sublime experience. No facial expressions here....only "words";-)

(Evelyn)WAGW is now at my local $1. movie (50cents on Tuesday!!) LOL.Won't swell the BO receipts, but nice for "sayonnara" viewing;-) Me too! Me too!! Was delighted to find HD at the local bargain theater today; although mine costs $2.00. But wot's a couple of dollars when what a girl wants is a nice dose of Henry D.? I hope all my fellow HD addicts have such a theater near them. Linda? I may catch up with you yet.

(Evelyn) Let me tell you, Colin reciting Rupert Brooke's poetry is a sublime experience. No facial expressions here....only "words";-) Colin's voice period is a sublime experience, but not an option here. :-( (Evelyn) WAGW is now at my local $1. movie (50cents on Tuesday!!) LOL.Won't swell the BO receipts, but nice for "sayonnara" viewing;-) (Hen) Me too! Me too!! Was delighted to find HD at the local bargain theater today; although mine costs $2.00. Lucky ducks! Been looking for it here at my $4.50 theater (NY equivalent of $1 theater), but no go yet. I'm in luck if I'm looking for Indo/Pakistani movies, though. ;-)

(Hen)I hope all my fellow HD addicts have such a theater near them. Linda? I may catch up with you yet. Go for it. No bargain theaters here, no nothing. Looks like I'm stuck at 15. It's gone:-(

(Dorine) Isn't that one of the big reasons we're here? To Drool? Seriously, yes, of course. However, there aren't "visuals" right now and HS *is* the main subject right now of the Spoilers topic. Why not discuss it there in terms of what you liked and are prepared to "drool" about later? What you've liked/disliked? I've been trying (unsuccessfully) to get the discussion of HS onto Spoilers and I don't understand why there seems to be this reluctance to use the topic which was created for new releases. Discussion of Rika's captures of WAGW was moved here because HS had become the topic du jour there, plus it was now only to be a discussion of looks/drool over those looks - not about the movie itself. When WAGW hits other countries and people want to talk about the movie itself, then it'll be back to Spoilers. Is any of this clear? It is not capricious on my part. There is some rationale behind the categorizations.

We just keep cross topic-ing I guess. Sorry Hey!.......Nice visual! ;-)

(MaryH) Could someone please post links to the eyelash and stubble ones from the reading? Here's a handful of pics for those having trouble with the main site index (mentioned on CF topic) at firthissimo, kudos to those responsible and Rika and the lurker for pointing them out. ... http://www.firthissimo.it/pen.asp?imm=3 http://www.firthissimo.it/pen.asp?imm=4 http://www.firthissimo.it/pen.asp?imm=5 http://www.firthissimo.it/pen.asp?imm=14 http://www.firthissimo.it/pen.asp?imm=2

Barb Thanks for trying. I also work on a Mac. That may be the probem. The links that worked were posted directly to the larger jpeg images. Please, please try again : ).

(Mary)..posted directly to the larger jpeg images. Sorry, that's what I did, a direct link to the large image. Can't think what the problem is, but watch for an email from me, maybe we can do it that way.

Use these: http://digilander.libero.it/firthissimo\img2\PEN_3.JPG http://digilander.libero.it/firthissimo\img2\PEN_4.JPG http://digilander.libero.it/firthissimo\img2\PEN_5.JPG http://digilander.libero.it/firthissimo\img2\PEN_14.JPG and if you haven't seen the rest, just change the #s (1-15)

That's courtesy of the "Do Unto Others" netiquette club. ;-)

Thanks Karen The links didn't work as posted, but they do work if you replace the backslashes with forward slashes as in the example below. Hope this works for the other Mac users as well. So in the spirit of "Do Unto Others", what would you "Do Unto Colin"? http://digilander.libero.it/firthissimo/img2/PEN_3.JPG

(MaryH)So in the spirit of "Do Unto Others", what would you "Do Unto Colin"? ...Anything I could get away with:-)

OMG!!! Thank you MaryH and Karen (it works) and Barb (for trying)!! I get to see ODB up close and personal now!! Yum! Blasted Mac makes things difficult sometimes! (MaryH) So in the spirit of "Do Unto Others", what would you "Do Unto Colin"? (Linda) ...Anything I could get away with:-) LOL! You said it!

How truly bizarre about the slashes being reversed. Oh well, now you can see them.

(Dorine) The difference in his tooth color is a bit more evident in that one...caps on the front I presume. Think it's been mentioned or alluded to before. (Evelyn) LOL.Ole Eagle-Eye! Probably noticed as a spillover from my last job in dental sales. (Karen) Of course, he's had dental work since his early films. Valmont (pre) and later... Yes, I mentioned it because I remembered it had been spoken of or alluded to various times in the past by Karen or whoever. (Annette) it is quite natural, that the "corner" teeth are a bit more "yellow" than the ones in front. It is supposedly because the cornerteeth are thicker than the others. .....the coulor difference alone isn't evidence of caps (Tress) I think he has had caps and bonding....can't be sure (should ask my dentist friend who can spot it at 50 paces). There was something about the shape of his front teeth (soooo perfect, at that angle anyway) beside the color difference that hit me. I asked my dental hygienist friend who also happened to have a dental tech with her tonight to look at that pic and another of a straight on view with a big smile (one of the B/W ones). Couldn't find any good older pics to compare. This is what she said... both agree we believe he has porcelain laminates. It's not so much the shape of his teeth, but just the way they look...he needs to bleach from his canines to his molars. I mentioned the coffee and the smokes to her, too. Curious what your dentist friend has to say Tress. She also reiterated what you said Annette. Think National Health will pick up the tab for whitening? ;-) Thanks Annette for the Trauma news.

Just spent a little drool time (it's raining here) by revisiting that Italian site that Rika and generous lurker provided and saw that there was a link to The Bucket. I "have no Italian" but I guessed that it says it's "the" current site. Maria? Moon?

(Brenda) It just occurred to me he could've worn a speedo in this scene. I wouldn't have survived that! (Dorine) I'm sorry, but I do have to say......Ewwww. I don't have an affection for Speedos on anyone. (Karen) OK, maybe not Colin, but are your eyes not glued to the TV during Olympic swimming? ;-)))))))))) (Beedee) Mine are!! It is a rare bod that they look good on (imho) but those sleek swimmers, and might I add divers, often got em. (Joyce) Have I just entered a parallel universe? Since when don't Drool ladies want to see CF in speedos? I'm having my own Memorial Day film festival double feature of Tumbledown and Part Three of Lost Empires. Just so happens Robert of TD pops out of bed with Sophie and jumps into a pair of tiny black briefs (read speedos). (Karen) Right, I stand corrected the black briefs started up the saliva (actually that happened a couple of seconds before they appeared). I must have my say in the conversation! I'm with Dorine here.....just not a Speedo fan. It is either one of two things (or maybe the combo)....I saw too many hairy backed, chubby, old guys wearing them when I was younger AND/OR they reminde me of girls bikini bottoms so are oddly 'sexless' for me. Don't do anything. Even in Tumbledown. When ODB put those on....my thought was....'hope he doesn't wear those IRL!" Didn't avert my eyes....oh no! Was a nice butt shot before the drawers went on! When I envision (really, I don't EVER do this) ODB in his keks, I see him in the Paul Ashworth grays (LOVE those!).

Re: Speedos/briefs/thongs--as ODB would say, it's very case-specific. ;-) If the man is toned and gorgeous, then, yum. If not, well then...Yeah, I, too, saw way too many overweight older men in Speedos when I lived in Germany. Ugh. (Joyce) Just so happens Robert of TD pops out of bed with Sophie and jumps into a pair of tiny black briefs (read speedos). I'm with you on this, Joyce. A drool-worthy Speedo moment.;-)

Finally saw Hostages last night. Will have to obsess through any related material to help process it, it's so hard to walk away from that and have the movie be enough. Especially the Brian Keenan book, though I'm not sure I'm separating the character from the actor (I love Ciaran Hinds.) Those who have already done all this, do you have recommendations? Since this was the throwaway viewing (meaning too caught up in ODB and the story to be observant) I'll have to watch again to absorb his performance, but for now, my only observation is Wow. That had to have been one of the most physically debilitating, mentally exhausting roles to play, but what a role. Wow.

Barb, I'm glad you saw Hostages. Wow indeed. CH and CF are excellent in this movie. I watched it again last night. Seemed fitting for a Memorial Day weekend. The first hostages were taken in 1985. The last were released in 1991. Here we are in 2003, and the movie is still relevant. Some time ago, I came across this article about a new feature film based on BK's book An Evil Cradling http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_452115.html Haven't seen any update since. Does anyone have more info about it?

(LisaJH)Speedos/briefs/thongs--as ODB would say, it's very case-specific. ;-) If the man is toned and gorgeous, then, yum. If not, well then... ...and let's face it, he is AFG and toned. Double Yum. It's not like he would have been parading around in them, but lying on his back, on the beach, eating melon. Wow, I can deal with that. (Tress)I saw too many hairy backed, chubby, old guys wearing them I have, too. But, in the spirit of case specifics...ODB is neither hairy backed, chubby or old:-)

(Linda) ...ODB is neither hairy backed, chubby or old:-) LOL.....no....he is not! But still, I think....if I had my way, I'd rather see him on a nude beach than in Speedos (I know, I know...the sand gets everywhere and you have to worry about burn....)!

(Tress)I'd rather see him on a nude beach than in Speedos. Crikey, how did we get from a speedo to nude? (don't answer that) That works, that definitely works.

(Linda) Crikey, how did we get from a speedo to nude? (don't answer that) LOL....my mind works in mysterious ways....maybe I should have gone the other way (cuz I still don't like the Speedo thing). I'd rather see ODB in Edward Pettigrew's trunks than in Speedos (see....but now I'm cutting hairs...EP's trunks weren't that attractive to me either....but I LOVE watching his legs as he runs down the stairs. Nice muscle tone....he has that cut right above the knee that I find so incredibly attractive).

For the record, I would rather see ..... this this these or and this (Tress) he has that cut right above the knee that I find so incredibly attractive .... and possibly my favorite But not or or Ewww! Oh....and I like some of the underwear/swimwear, too. ;-)

Which was he wearing in HS? Oh right, none of them.;-)

It's a hard one to call ; ) Today in Drool Congress Agenda Great Speedo debate Representative Brenda - Nay Representative Dorine - Nay (with a qualified eww!) Representative Karen - Nay Representative Tress- Nay (hairy back and chubby considerations) Representative Beedee - Nay (swimmers only) Representative Joyce - Yay (and I do mean yay!) Representative Karen - Yay (switched under lobbying pressure) Representative Lisa JH - Yay (seconding the motion) Representative LindaK - Yay (with justification) Oh where is Dick (Cheney) when you need him? We need someone to break the 4-4 tie vote. Who's it going to be?

Was slow to post excuse double here. First off I must admit to my own prejudices (Lizzy has been a good influence on me). The white BVD style Calvin Kleins make me think of nothing but Homer Simpson. Do like the red and black trunks, gray ones not bad. The others look like they've been stuffed with socks from REI. ; ) More like an artist's conception or a serving suggestion. ; )

Well, since I already stated that the Turkish beaches nauseated me into a horror of speedos, I'll be the tie-breaker. Yes I will admit, I love to watch those olympic swimmers dive from their platforms and perform their strokes. But seeing them every 4 yrs just isn't enough for me ;-).

This is gonna be an eclectic post....... From the difficult to the sublime. (Sonia)Here we are in 2003, and the movie is still relevant. I feel this too when I see it. I find Colin's part simply wonderful and I also fell in love with Cairin Hines' performance. There's so much to admire in this one in many ways. you inspired me Sonia, I'll revisit tomorrow! Now to the sublime........it could only happen here! (Linda)I have, too. But, in the spirit of case specifics...ODB is neither hairy backed, chubby or old:-) My phobia of speedos comes from the unseemly visages of too many men on beaches who have a misguided body imagage! No consideration of the state of my stomach! I'd rather ban them all than be exposed to another obscene display. ODB will just have to go without IMHO! Nude beaches for him if I had my way. He has a lovely smooth body perfect for display. Those little underpants are another story. I love 'em. Seeing the panty scene in Tumbledown reminded me of the lovely scene in The Big Easy with Denise Quaid slipping on his little "pants........or panties" after a phone call. I "pant" through both! (Joyce)Today in Drool Congress Agenda Great Speedo debate ROTFL Joyce! And I was sitting here in the rain thinking it was slow here today and you were doing an acedemic study all the time! That'll teach me!

Ada Well, since I already stated that the Turkish beaches nauseated me into a horror of speedos, I'll be the tie-breaker. Yes I will admit, I love to watch those olympic swimmers dive from their platforms and perform their strokes. But seeing them every 4 yrs just isn't enough for me ;-). I'll consider that a Nay. Every four years you like to look at Speedos corect Ada? We'll be back then with a new congress to try again. The Nays have it. CF can forget about Speedos until he is 46. : ) Dorine, I think it was your excellent and well researched photo expose (and I do mean expose)that swayed her vote. Or something else. ; )

Weighing in on the Great Speedo Debate... I swam competitively for years and really grew to appreciate a good Speedo on a good boy, but will readily admit most other men should NOT flaunt their assets in public...That said, this is ODB fergawdsakes!!! Of Course I want to see the tiniest piece of fabric around his most sensitives whilst he fondles a melon in his mouth! Gah!!!Strictly for research of course..I'm doing a life study of family jewels, thanks Dorine for the excellent visuals!

(Mari)That said, this is ODB fergawdsakes!!! ...Excellent point! I'd like to see your research. I pay homage to his family jewels:-) Joyce, LOL. I feel so honored to be part of the DC...makes me feel v. busy and important. ...Thanks, Dorine. You sure know how to drive your point home:-)

Sorry, that should be Maria...sorry Mari.

(Maria)I swam competitively for years and really grew to appreciate a good Speedo on a good boy....I'm doing a life study of family jewels, Hah! Family jewel studies in addition to the study of mythic sea creatures? You studious water nymph!

(Maria)I'm doing a life study of family jewels In that case, the pic posted over at CF Fantasy Women a while back, may be of interest to you!!

From 177 (Dorine) Sonia, you thought TEP was drool-worthy and lame? (Sonia) In the words of FD, it was tolerable I suppose but not handsome enough to tempt me. I seem to find myself defending almost any film, he has ever been in. TEP, yes a really long movie, but with wonderful scenarie, powerful performances from all of the cast and as allways a very handsom Colin. One of my all-time favourite monologues (sp?) is Cathrine telling the story of Gyges' wife. And then the paper-wedding talk at the office - woaw! All of this IMHO off course. Another matter; speedo vs whatever. I'm with Tress (I think) - give me the grey boxers any time - that'll do me ;-) Family jewels; perhaps I know, one of the reasons Evelyn loves Camille. From the Italian site I saw pictures from Camille with some pictures worth investigating ;-P

Joyce, I want to change my nay to a yay on the speedo. I'd usually agree with the naysayers, but I think there are exceptions to the rule :-) Having said that, I've been checking out some of the appliances needed for carrying HG around. I vote yay for this one:

(Annette) I seem to find myself defending almost any film, he has ever been in. TEP, yes a really long movie, but with wonderful scenarie, powerful performances from all of the cast and as allways a very handsom Colin. Like many of ODB's films, TEP was visually handsome. However I couldn't care less about the main characters because I didn't buy their "love" story.

(Brenda)I vote yay for this one: I vote yay for both. I voted for the speedo and the nude beach, but lying about in those black boxers would not have been bad, either. As for the appliance...certainly keeps the right/left debate front and center:-)

Dorine! Thanks for the visuals! Where are all those boys on the beach? I go all the time and have yet to see one frolicking in his skivvies! I'm obviously going to the wrong places (I like your favorite too BTW...also like the gray pair). Would prefer a diffent model...slimmer and a bit paler ;-) (Maria) That said, this is ODB fergawdsakes!!! Of Course I want to see the tiniest piece of fabric around his most sensitives whilst he fondles a melon in his mouth! Gah!!!Strictly for research of course..I'm doing a life study of family jewels, thanks Dorine for the excellent visuals! I admire this line of study, of course. It has nothing to do with ODB....just the Speedo thing never worked for me. Can think of many other pieces of fabric I would rather see him in. I suppose I would be quite pleased with the HS trunks if I ever got to see them! And LOL Brenda! I don't even want to think about that one! It gets worse....crotchless Speedos...er 'appliance'!

Voting Procedure 1. When the yeas and nays are ordered, the names of Representatives shall be called however I feel like it; and each Representative shall, without debate (AS IF, with this group) declare his assent or dissent to the question, unless excused by the Congress; and no Representative (that would be you Annette and Maria) shall be permitted to vote after the decision shall have been announced by the Presiding Officer (Moi), but may for sufficient reasons, with unanimous consent, change or withdraw his vote (BrendaL). Annette and Maria - too late on the Speedo vote. Please try to get to Congress on time. Tsk.tsk. ; ) BrendaL - Could have changed your vote before we made it final.You could have made the difference. Don't you remember the hanging chads? ; ) (Brenda)Having said that, I've been checking out some of the appliances needed for carrying HG around. I vote yay for this one: (lindak)As for the appliance...certainly keeps the right/left debate front and center:-) Snort! ROTF etc.etc. Am dying here you two. Okay this session of Congress is now closed. Thanks for the great visuals Dorine. Excellent analysis.

(Joyce-CSPAN)Voting Procedure 1. When the yeas and nays are ordered, the names of Representatives shall be called however I feel like it; and each Representative shall, without debate (AS IF, with this group)..... ROTFLMAF! Is it too late to vote yea or nay on the appliances presiding officer? If not I vote nay with the "front and center" contrivance as I have had too much fun reading the "which way" debate here while I was a mere lurker! I therefore have a sentimental attachment to the aforesaid debate.

(Presiding Officer aka Joyce) Annette and Maria - too late on the Speedo vote. Please try to get to Congress on time. Tsk.tsk. ; ) Bummer - I missed the roll call too. I'll have to fire my aide for not rushing me to the floor in time. But, see, I was off in a corner writing a new piece of legislation - but then I got sidetracked by some photos of some guy with stubble, and...

(Beedee)"which way" debate here while I was a mere lurker! True, but front and center is a "way" as well:-) Just think, now we have all angles covered:-)

Geez, Dorine, and here I thought you were hosting a beach party on Fire Island, if you know what I mean. ;-D Nice pics, though. ;-) Okay, let's talk about Hostages....

ROTFL, Lisa!!

(Lisa)Okay, let's talk about Hostages.... I watched it again yesterday. I am now actually able to see the "whole" picture;-) It has such a wonderful cast. I thought that the character development was v. good for a film of it's length and complexity. Ciarin Hinds was stunning in it, imo. It's one of my favorite peerformances by ODB. He shows a great range in this one.

(Lisa)Okay, let's talk about Hostages.... Would love to. When do we start?

(Sonia) Would love to. When do we start? Actually, this seems to be one of those places to benefit first from those who have gone before -- they've been here, done that. Afer I posted my question, I checked the discussions and Hostages has been done...lots of good info to answer my direct question about what other resources should be looked into. Does not mean it could not be done again, but there may be new ground to cover as well.

Forgot to thank Dorine and Joyce for the "pantys"-convention - so Thank you :-) The filmdiscussion on The Bucket are really worth looking into. I found it a great benefit to have read the discussion before watching the movie. There is no "plot" to give away, and it kind of prepares you for the viewing IMHO. (Me, myself, I whatever)Family jewels; perhaps I know, one of the reasons Evelyn loves Camille. From the Italian site I saw pictures from Camille with some pictures worth investigating ;-P I just finished watching Camille and after one viewing I'll join Evelyn in the chorus to praise the film. I'm biased and a hopeless romantic, which might both influence my experience, but it is certainly one, I'll be watching again. I also happen to like some of the other actors (Ben Kingsley, John Gielgood, "Hercule Poirot" (not PU off course, the new one). Lots of lovely closeups and lots of screentime (and no ponytail) - just what this girl wants.

(Annette) The filmdiscussion on The Bucket are really worth looking into Thank you. FYI, I just put our Three Days of Rain discussion back up a couple of days ago.

(Annette) The filmdiscussion on The Bucket are really worth looking into. They sure are. Just thought there might be new pov. (Karen)Thank you. FYI, I just put our Three Days of Rain discussion back up a couple of days ago. Thanks, I'll hop to it.

Feel free to discuss Hostages here though. That's what this topic is here for.

(Annette) I just finished watching Camille and after one viewing I'll join Evelyn in the chorus to praise the film (...) I also happen to like some of the other actors (Ben Kingsley, John Gielgood, "Hercule Poirot" (not PU off course, the new one). Lots of lovely closeups and lots of screentime (and no ponytail) - just what this girl wants. I like those actors too. It's unfortunate for the film that the weak point was the portrayal of the title character. GS didn't cut it, imho. OT: David Suchet has made me forget PU ever played Hercule. Though Albert Finney did a good job of it, to me DS is the quintessential Hercule Poirot. (Karen) Feel free to discuss Hostages here though. That's what this topic is here for. And so I shall. Thank you, ladies, for a very thorough discussion of this film�s serious, droolworthy and funny aspects. Love it. On a serious note, many scenes hit me full force during viewing. The one that stands out is the scene when they�re playing monopoly and hear of the passenger jet shot down by Americans. Bravo to all the actors for being so convincing. The hostages listening to the radio go from teasing each other about the �capitalist game for a capitalist country� to being grieved, grieved and shocked (sorry couldn�t resist :-)) and realize that reprisals (beatings maybe, death even) await them. The terrorists watching television mirror their reaction until anger, hatred and action take over. The whole scene culminates with Brian�s fight to keep the radio, the click of Ali�s gun, and Brian�s shaken reaction. Wow! Bravo to the writers/directors as well. On the drool side, you�ve covered and uncovered so much. I�ll just add that at the end of the fight for the radio, there are brief peeks (thank goodness for the pause and slow buttons) at ODB�s, wide, wet shoulders (slurp!), delectable neck (yum) and well-shaped head. Profile is traceable, cleft in chin is very visible, hair is begging for fingers to run through it, lips are parted just so (mmmm), and upper chest is wet and heaving (yikes). On the funny side, I�ll add the exchange between Brian and John: �Paddy� �You�re calling me a f***ing Brit?� Brian�s no comment is priceless.

(Lisa)Has anyone ever heard him refer to himself as a nerd before? I might as well just start this here. ; ) I have always been in denial about this particular tendency of his and now that he has outted himself: Favorite CF nerd moments. Haven't seen it yet but I think the twirling scarf in HS is going to top the list. (but it's still my keepsake - i'm so pitiful) Joe Prince in the baseball hat has got to be there.

The baseball cap is a list topper. But is it nerdy or dorky? Must check dictionary... ;-0

Please add his running in Master of the Moor to that list.

Karen Please add his running in Master of the Moor to that list. Must check this out. May have to start a deinitely un-nerdy list too. Darcy is cool - not doubt about it, not a nerdy bone in his body. Paul Ashworth - PDC (pretty damn cool) Matthew Field - He redefined cool English Patient - Yes we have no bananas dance,you tell me.

Nerd alert: Simon Westwood in shirt and socks on bed. Geoffrey Clinton - bananas dance = nerdy but he's PDC in a tux (Joyce) Matthew Field - He redefined cool Yes, Ma'am! To the un-nerdy list, I'll add: Jess Clark - PDC Henry Dashwood - PDC when he put his house in order Vicomte de Valmont - timeless cool Anytime his characters put their hands in their pockets, they're cool, imo.

We've got fingers, we've got smirky dimples, we've got open neck, we've got the all important stubble!! (It is slightly different than what is already in the gallery, besides, I have been at a dude ranch in Colorado and am seriously ODB-deprived!) Oh, another un-nerd would have to be Valmont...

Nice dimply smile! Ernest Worthing = PDC, at least he is when he's explaining why he never pays his bill at the Savoy Jack Worthing = too serious to be cool. More nebbish than nerd? (Joyce) Paul Ashworth - PDC (pretty damn cool) I'd say he's nerdy at least as often as he's cool. (Karen) Please add his running in Master of the Moor to that list. In fact, I think it's safe to generalize and say that poor Stephen is not cool.

(Sonia)Anytime his characters put their hands in their pockets, they're cool, imo. Or walk, or stride or hurry/skip down steps or.......