(KathyF)CF is a whole different subject, however. Don't know how I'd really react, but I'm sure I'd do something and I'm fairly sure I'd embarass myself somehow. All of the above. Just to let you know, (some of you already know)I didn't go to the TIOBE premiere because I knew I would see him. I got so worked up just thinking about it, that I decided against it. DH was willing to take me, too. Now I could kick myself. I keep thinking, suppose I'd gone and had hooked up with Dorine...Oh, well coulda, woulda, shoulda...

(KathyF) I admitted on 165, I'd turn bright red, then (2), then possibly (3). If I actually had the nerve to speak, I'm sure whatever emerged from my mouth would sound totally idiotic. I've actually thought about this a number of times and can't even say for sure which of his films I'd admit to loving. Kathy, if we ever happen to be in a situation together (at a premiere or event), I'll bring the Depends and you can bring the smelling salts... (linkak) I didn't go to the TIOBE premiere because I knew I would see him. I got so worked up just thinking about it, that I decided against it. DH was willing to take me, too. Now I could kick myself. Linda, you sound like me! I get nervous just thinking about such things (prior to their actual occurrence), but when I actually find myself in the situation, I usually do better...not so much as grace under pressure as a survival instinct, I think! ;-) I think my DH would make me go...he is a bit odd, he doesn't understand the obession, but if he knows I want something, he will make sure it happens (he is a good guy)...He would probably push me in front of ODB to get me to talk to him, if he had to...

(Tress) I think my DH would make me go...(he is a good guy)... LOL Tress, not sure mine would MAKE me go, I just sure wouldn't want him to be anywhere close at the exact moment. I am absolutely sure he would say something totally embarassing. "Do you know, it's all your fault, she makes me whisper in her ear "Dearest,loveliest Barbara..." or "Do realize how tired one gets of wearing boots all the time?" or some such.

(BarbS) LOL Tress, not sure mine would MAKE me go, I just sure wouldn't want him to be anywhere close at the exact moment. I am absolutely sure he would say something totally embarassing. ROTFL...oh my! I had not thought of this! I am certain the DH would say something totally embarassing...best to leave him at home and fend for myself. He can pay for the tickets and hotel rooms! ;-)

Let's see, what would I do. I have given this alot of thought. I initially felt I would lose consciousness or make a fool of myself in some other equally undignified manner. However, I have changed my opinion of myself and have decided I would not waste probably one of the most memoriable moments of my life by lousing it up. I would save that for after it was all over and he was out of sight and ear shot. You know, you make it through the emergency with assuredness and then when its all over you react. (1) On the street as a private person, with or without family, I would engage eye contact, walking slowly of course to take in all of him, nod and possibly mumble a greeting as if we were acquainted and walk on by. (2) At premiere, hoping I am in a que so I get to look at him for some time, attempt to get autograph comment on his brilliancy, without over emoting, dress appropriately for occassion and then find Dorine and Amy and go to the party with them!!! Would let Dorine sit on my shoulders if no flower pot was available. What could be better than that. Then hopefully make it home before involuntary reflexes set in and I become incoherent for the next 3 to 4 days. If only the opportunity would arise........

(Pam) Then hopefully make it home before involuntary reflexes set in and I become incoherent for the next 3 to 4 days. Do you actually think it would only be for 3 or 4 days?! I think you underestimate the level of your devotion. ;-)

If the setting is appropriate, I would just ask for an autograph & ask him what he's working on (then try to look like I don't already know what his current project is!) and hopefully not faint dead away when he looks at me or speaks to me. Just the thought of him saying my name gets me all a-flutter, LOL! Okay, Jeanie, tell us what your fantasy is; I'm dying to know...

Since it is so unlikely to happen, this totally does not matter, but given half a chance, I would throw myself at him, touch his hair (being careful not to dislodge any!) and then try to figure out what he carries in his front pocket. I would then introduce myself as Jeanie from Drool (insert evil grin winkee) and tell him how much I admire his ...ummm... work. Since the above would probably get me arrested though, I guess I would settle more for something along the lines of what Pam wrote. *****sigh****

My reaction to seeing him on the street would be (I hope)restrained and respectful, although given the fact that I start and gasp just when flipping through channels and find him on (o.k., truth be known, I even gasp when I put a dvd or movie of his on)his effect on me would very likely go unnoticed but I would not bother him. If in an appropriate setting (like another Donmar evening!), and with the assistance of wine courage, I would hope to have him sign my playbill but I would ask for my full name to be signed as my last name is the same as in the title of a very popular Italian movie from last year and maybe I would get a few extra words as we discuss this fact and Italy in general and I would just be playing it so cool...Thats right, composed and impassive, admiring perhaps but from a distance...HoHoHo...No, I would be up there with the best of you, trying not to ralph, either hiding or fighting the urge to run away with hairpins flying...

(Moonstar) , I would just ask for an autograph & ask him what he's working on (then try to look like I don't already know what his current project is!) and hopefully not faint dead away when he looks at me or speaks to me. ROTF! That was me! ;-) LOL! Sounds like a good plan, Barb!

(moonstar) Just the thought of him saying my name gets me all a-flutter, LOL! There is a movie in which he says my name several times...I rewind and rewind...even though the person he is speaking of (and to) is a man, I don't care. It'll probably be the only time I hear him say it. Makes me melt!! And yeah, Jeanie, what moonstar said! What's your CF fantasy encounter like??? (BarbS) I would then introduce myself as Jeanie from Drool (insert evil grin winkee) and tell him how much I admire his ...ummm... work. ROTFL...thanks for the good laugh Barb. Good way to start my morning! (Dorine) ROTF! That was me! ;-) You are still my hero! Now, whenever I see a potted anything (and Portland has a lot of potted shrubbery), I wonder if it's climbable and what the view would be like...

, but if he knows I want something, he will make sure it happens (he is a good guy)...He would probably push me in front of ODB to get me to talk to him, if he had to... LOL. There have been cases where the wife freezes and DH has to ask for the autograph. Another time, someone's son ran down Earlham St. in London to get an autograph for his mum.Lots of DHs accompanied the wives to the Donmar. One struck up a conversation with Colin about Vancouver.

(Evelyn) LOL. There have been cases where the wife freezes and DH has to ask for the autograph. This could very well happen to me if I ever get close enough...my DH is not very shy, and since he doesn't have the same reverence for ODB as I do, I have no doubt that he would start to talk to him about any number of things that would embarass me. If my DH even knew that ODB had lived in the Vancouver area, I am sure this would be a topic to cover...the DH spends many winter days skiing in the area (and we go up there together in the summers to camp). I now think (after Barb helped me see the light) that maybe I should leave him at home if the chance ever arises (and take Maria's wine advice...a bottle (or two) of chardonnay would give the courage to do or say pretty much anything, letting me embarass myself instead of being at the mercy of the DH)...

Just a quick bit of info...A show called "From page to screen" on the Bravo network will be on, the Nov. 18th episode will be about TEP. Maybe some good behind the scenes footage...Starts at 8 pm. Here is the blurb - What began as a young writer's image of a plane crash in the desert, ended in a best-selling novel and then a film that put everyone involved - author, director, filmmakers and stars - on the map. Though the 10-year journey to create the book and then the movie was not an easy one, for the visionaries that made The English Patient, patience paid off. In this episode of Page to Screen, author Michael Ondaatje, director/screenwriter Anthony Minghella, as well as stars Juliet Binoche, Ralph Feinnes and Kristin Scott Thomas, join others to reveal the epic story behind The English Patient - from Chapter 1 to Oscar night. After six years of writing and researching The English Patient, a little known Canadian author stunned the literary world by winning the celebrated Booker Prize. The novel attracted the attention of the fledgling British film director, Anthony Minghella who, although inspired by the "avalanche of images," was quickly faced with the challenges of adapting a novel that shifts between two time periods, two locations and three love stories to the big screen. Working closely with the author, the vast movie crew had to battle the desert to bring The English Patient to life, raking the shifting sands and constantly repairing their authentic 1940's cars. Then a battle over casting decisions caused the production to shut down. And these were just the first of many challenges� From casting battles, to script changes, to dramatic edits, Page to Screen: The English Patient brings you along on the dramatic movie-making experience that flirted with disaster but ultimately triumphed beyond everyone's wildest dreams - winning nine Oscars�.

Thanks for info on TEP Maria. Sounds interesting. Hope they interview or atleast show CF in it.

Thanks Maria for the heads-up. TEP is my favorite movie of all time:-))))

My fantasy? I'd ask him to lean down, and I would stick my nose in his left dimple and sniff... and if I couldn't sniff his dimple, I'd go for the neck meat. (yes, twisted feral girl here) Then tell him that I love him to death and that he is one of those people who makes life a great deal more enjoyable for all of us simply because he's alive.. then, I'd thank him, pat his arm and leave... just in time to be arrested and make my debut in the evening paper. How's that?

LOL Jeanie, oh twisted, feral one. Here's hoping you get the chance! (I'd love to read about it in the paper!)

(Jeanie) I'd ask him to lean down, and I would stick my nose in his left dimple and sniff... and if I couldn't sniff his dimple, I'd go for the neck meat. LOL...Ooooohhhh...good call. If you miss the dimple you can go for a mole lick on his neck! And! When the restraining order expires, and you see him again, he will be sure to remember you!!! ;-)

My fantasy is to be sitting next to him on a long transatlantic flight. Has anyone seen "L'Histoire D'O"? ;-)

(Moon) My fantasy is to be sitting next to him on a long transatlantic flight. Has anyone seen "L'Histoire D'O"? ;-) Ooooohhh..another good fantasy. He can't escape on a long flight (transatlantic no less...might be good turbulence if you go at the right time of year). A captive. I like that one. ;-) Now I will claim ignorance..."L'Histoire D'O"? I don't know what that is!

(Tress), Now I will claim ignorance..."L'Histoire D'O"? I don't know what that is! A famous French film.

(Moon) My fantasy is to be sitting next to him on a long transatlantic flight. You have nailed it! In first class (of course) with champagne flowing freely, conversation flowing smoothly, and hours of happy thoughts ahead...

(Moon) A famous French film. 'The Story of O'...if I spoke any French at all, maybe I wouldn't have been so thick. Worked at a video store in college...we kept that one in the back room (were the guys had screwed in red lights for effect)...you're naughty! ;-)

(Moon) My fantasy is to be sitting next to him on a long transatlantic flight. Has anyone seen "L'Histoire D'O"? ;-) Ah. Even without the "O" reference, that is the perfect scenario!

I love all the fantasies, and I'd like to join in anyone of them. Especially the transatlantic flight. I can think of some others, but...let's just leave it at that.

(Moon) My fantasy is to be sitting next to him on a long transatlantic flight. Has anyone seen "L'Histoire D'O"? ;-) No, but I've read Green Shoe Diaries ;-) Now THAT one they could make into a video that would need to be kept in back rooms!

(Moon) Has anyone seen "L'Histoire D'O"? (clearing throat) Ahem, yes. What Moon said... ;) Were he single, I'd deploy the never-fail-rock-star-trick. Otherwise, I'd probably be over in the corner yacking with the missus and watching the show. :)

I watched A'ment 0 (for the first time). Apart from watching the opening scene 10 times, I was stunned by the eggs (scrambled this time). This is the 3rd time I've noticed him with them - if he's not whisking them, cracking them, then he's serving them! Also was very impressed that his pronunciation of *Jack* has improved.

(Leah) This is the 3rd time I've noticed him with them - if he's not whisking them, cracking them, then he's serving them! Oh, that's true, I totally missed the egg theme we've got going on! I need to go back and watch it again some time soon. One thing that amazed me about his performance was how he somehow made himself look smaller than he is as Adrian. He's usually got such strong physical presence - partly because he's tall and broad-shouldered and partly just because he's got that indefinable "something - but he managed to shrink all of that as Adrian. I really noticed it in the final scene of the movie, when the contrast was so striking.

(Rika) Oh, that's true, I totally missed the egg theme we've got going on! Say, Rika...You wouldn't happen to have any fun egg themed pics, would you? It seems like a long time since any pics have been posted...We all count on you!!

Maria, I do have a capture of MD with the whisk, but I posted it not that long ago. (If you missed it, here's a link. I don't have AZ on DVD, so can't get the scrambled eggs. I can help you with TIOBE once I have my DVD, but not yet. But perhaps Jeanie might be able to accommodate us......????? In the meantime, this isn't quite what you asked for, but I thought it might offer certain..... compensations. No eggs, but something rather scrumptious-looking all the same:

Who cares about eggs when one can have Darcy necks? Thanks, Rika!

Good Morning! Thank you Rika!! One of my all time favorite shots of Mr. D. Love the Adam's Apple Action. And the look! The boy's in agony, someone help him!! Smooth that crease out from between his eyes.... Okay, found something kinda funny (but not really!). You have to vote at the top (ODB is NOT annoying)! http://www.amiannoying.com/view.asp?ID=2453

(Rika) In the meantime, this isn't quite what you asked for, but I thought it might offer certain..... compensations. No eggs... Did I say eggs? Don't listen to me! It's perfect! Thank you sooooooo much!! I feel very much compensated!!

Shocking!!!!!!!!!!! Well, we've seen it ;-) but to be posted on internet.... http://groups.msn.com/ColinFirthFantasyWomen/wow.msnw

(Leah) This is the 3rd time I've noticed him with them - if he's not whisking them, cracking them, then he's serving them! Are you counting MOTM, too? He cracks the hard-boiled egg in the bar and eats it while talking to the bartender. Quite messy. And as for Annie's link, well, excuse me, but I'm having trouble breathing... :-)

Thanks, Rika! Such suffering poor baby. That's the Mr. Darcy that started it all.

(Moon) Such suffering poor baby. I know..... it's pretty powerful when you can combine all that angst, just begging for comfort, with a neck that's just begging to be nibbled. (BrendaL) And as for Annie's link, well, excuse me, but I'm having trouble breathing... Yes, Janet posted that link on Odds & Ends during my birthday party on Sunday and I think that several of us were deprived of the powers of speech and breathing for an extended time period!

(BrendaL) And as for Annie's link, well, excuse me, but I'm having trouble breathing... :-) (Rika) I think that several of us were deprived of the powers of speech and breathing for an extended time period! My reaction?: Must....remember....to....breathe.... Whew!! I hope he doesn't know about this :)

(Rika) it's pretty powerful when you can combine all that angst, just begging for comfort, with a neck that's just begging to be nibbled. Ain't it the truth?! And to think Lizzie was going to throw this away for Wickham's misfortune! Makes you wonder just how smart that woman was!

(Rika) it's pretty powerful when you can combine all that angst, just begging for comfort, with a neck that's just begging to be nibbled. (KathyF) Ain't it the truth?! And to think Lizzie was going to throw this away for Wickham's misfortune! Makes you wonder just how smart that woman was! This is going into Darcy drool, but I can't agree more...very bite-able. I love his hands in that scene as well. If you watch, he rubs his thumb (I think after he puts down the pen) *sigh* Love the thumb rub... Another good neck nibble scene (IMO) is in FP. During the Bullock Brothers scene. When Sarah goes up to ODB and says...'that's the most romantic thing you've ever said to me'...he looks so scruffy and irresistible. Love that he hikes up his pants as he talks to her!

(BrendaL)And as for Annie's link, well, excuse me, but I'm having trouble breathing... I saw this for the first time on Sunday, while trying to finish my last post for Rika's party, I was speechless, as Dorine well knows. Breathing still has not returned to normal, especially because I just had another peek. Well, I had to be sure it was the same link, it could have been a different picture, well, couldn't it? On the neck front, who needs eggs? Apples are so very sexy.

(Tress)During the Bullock Brothers scene BTW, that is one my favorite scenes in the whole movie. I love when he says "Do I look like the sort of man who would own a Bread Album? Then, I love it when he says "shut up". Ah, loveable Paul Ashworth

(lindak) I love when he says "Do I look like the sort of man who would own a Bread Album? Then, I love it when he says "shut up". Ah, loveable Paul Ashworth I've got to watch it again. It has been a while...and I do love FP (even with his messy hair)! The scene you mentioned is one of my favs as well...also like the scene were he talks about DH Lawrence. The way he looks at Sarah when he confesses is priceless... Now, I'm going to ask if anyone else has noticed something about ODB (and you probably have, but I'm still a newbie, so I've missed out on many posts). When CF puts his arms around his (female) co-stars, I have noticed a tendency to put his hand under their armpit (like he's catching a quick feel). He does this to RG in FP (when they are looking at the apartment) and I noticed he does it to MEM when they are sitting on the rock in MLSF (either before or after church...can't quite remember). I think I have seen him do it in another film...sorry, can't think! Anyway, I find it amusing because he is so tall that it seems that he would have to 'go out of his way' to put his hand there as opposed to across their shoulders.... Little thing, I know, but I find it funny (and I always think...'lucky girl') ;-)

(Tress) I love his hands in that scene as well. If you watch, he rubs his thumb (I think after he puts down the pen) *sigh* Love the thumb rub... pant slobber drool Thumb rub, holding cigarette (MLSF,RV,COF), holding drink (BJD, multiple times), turning page of book (P&P, BJD, WOF), holding/massaging leg (Vmont), groping breasts (COF) slurp, bite, devour

(Rika) Yes, Janet posted that link on Odds & Ends during my birthday party on Sunday and I think that several of us were deprived of the powers of speech and breathing for an extended time period! Like Rika, I've been suffering from oxygen deprivation since her birthday.. LOL! I think ODB would be personally appalled that the great Scottish legend has made such a public appearance, but birthday girly has assured me that shot can be seen if you stop PM at just the right place, so if he's gonna go nakey in a movie I guess having his... ummmm... finer points displayed on the web shouldn't come as a shock to him. Just in case it does, though, and someone in his organization decides that we don't need to be posting such a revelation, I saved the picture to my harddrive! (giggling inanely) So, the DVDiva is going to treat me to 6 hours of LE tomorrow night, and I'm gonna bring the pizza. (laughing) Here it is CMA week and the stars are all over the place at eateries and clubs and such and we decided we'd rather watch HWM than go out on the town...sheesh, noooo.. we're not fanatically obsessed or anything. ;) I'm really looking forward to seeing LE, because being still a relative newbie, I haven't seen it yet, but I've been assured that although HWM was quite young during the filming, he is still quite tasty. Oh, and here you go!

(Jeanie) I'm really looking forward to seeing LE, because being still a relative newbie, I haven't seen it yet, but I've been assured that although HWM was quite young during the filming, he is still quite tasty. LE is one of my new favs. I've read several times that CF enjoys playing characters that have issues, and in this case, he appears to be playing the only sane person surrounded by people with various problems...so, I don't know if this is a favorite role of his, but I enjoyed it so much! He narrates the whole story and you get to see him react to all these perfectly crazy characters! And he is very tasty, as you said, so it makes it a treat to view!! Listen to his accent, I think it was Karen who said he was doing a Yorkshire accent...love it, he sounds so different to me! Thank you Jeanie for the picture of Jack, I mean Earnest....Jack?! ;-) We get an egg shot and a good hand shot all in one! And wearing glasses (I love it when he wears glasses)...

(Tress)(like he's catching a quick feel). LOL. I hadn't noticed, now I have to go back and investigate. Yes, lucky, lucky girls. *sigh* LE is one of my favorites, too. So much delicious screen time, and those voice overs...A very serious and extensive role, and so well done at a fairly young age (Tress)also like the scene were he talks about DH Lawrence Yes, another favorite of mine when he says, "I have to vary the answers". I love when he is floundering to come up with the answer to his own question about which one of DH Lawrence's books is the longest. OK, Tress, you have put me into total FP mode. Must have a viewing tonight.-I can see Paul, and check out the quick feel bit.

(lindak) Yes, another favorite of mine when he says, "I have to vary the answers". I love when he is floundering to come up with the answer to his own question about which one of DH Lawrence's books is the longest. There is a bit of irony in this scene as well (IMO). A few scenes earlier, when he is at Sarah's flat for the first time and he picks up the decorative item on the mantel...asks "what's this for?" and Sarah answers..."nothing, it just looks nice"...when he is talking about DH Lawrence, he is window shopping and looking at the same types of decorative items...he is so completely absorbed in Arsenal thoughts and having to answer Sarah, that he doesn't even realize what he's looking at in the shop. Paul appears to be the type of guy who likes functional stuff (doesn't think too much about decoration), but in this scene, he stops (while he is trying to come up with the DH Lawrence answer) and stares into a shop window that has absolutely nothing that I can think Paul would be interested in...it makes me laugh... I'm in full FP mode right now too...I'm going to have to watch it again real soon. (lindak) So much delicious screen time, and those voice overs... I'm a big fan of the voice overs. I could listen to him all day. I've been trying to find a copy of the book he narrates (Comeback). Not a book I would normally read, but if he was reading it to me! mmmmmm....Wish he would do an audio book of Ulysses, I've been trying to get past page 5 for the past year!

(Tress) I've been trying to find a copy of the book he narrates (Comeback). Not a book I would normally read, but if he was reading it to me! mmmmmm.... I've seen copies at Ebay; you might want to check there. (Jeanie) So, the DVDiva is going to treat me to 6 hours of LE tomorrow night Lucky you! LE marathon! Who needs the CMAs when you have ODB to entertain you? :)

I don't know if this is a favorite role of his, but I enjoyed it so much! He narrates the whole story and you get to see him react to all these perfectly crazy characters! I like it too...even on my lousy VHS copy. I dunno if Colin did or not. It was a long shoot....he called it a "sentence". Did not get good reviews.

Jeanie - shot can be seen if you stop PM at just the right place In my VHS tape, the shot is cropped slightly higher that in the pic posted. - Nessie is only in view a few frames earlier, obscured behind the glass wall!!

(Jeanie) I'm really looking forward to seeing LE, because being still a relative newbie, I haven't seen it yet, but I've been assured that although HWM was quite young during the filming, he is still quite tasty. He is totally scrumpcious. Unbelievable. This is one of my favorite rolls of his, and the movie IMO one of the best. Hope you enjoy it. I really love him and this movie. Good reviews or not I think it was very entertaining, and extremely well acted. One of the best. Yet the voting on IMDB ranked it the highest 9.7 out of 10 out of all his films, with P&P at 9.5. I love the scenes with him and Julie Blaine. I see alot of chemistry there and I think they really interact well. Thanks for the pics Rika and Jeanie and Janet and Annie words can't express the gratitude. Are there any more anywhere?

(Janet) In my VHS tape, the shot is cropped slightly higher that in the pic posted. Mine, too. And believe me, I've stopped and started it and gone slowly backwards and forwards, and no matter what I do, it's still cropped higher. I feel cheated! (but still thankful for what IS there)

(FanPam) Yet the voting on IMDB ranked it the highest 9.7 out of 10 out of all his films, with P&P at 9.5. And all 4 Amazon reviewers gave it 5 out of 5 stars (I didn't check to see if the were CF fans, that can skew results if your smitten). ;-) (FanPam) I love the scenes with him and Julie Blaine. I see alot of chemistry there and I think they really interact well. They worked together again a few years later. Carmen Du Sautoy and ODB were in "Desire Under the Elms". I agree they had good chemistry. Enjoyed their scenes together in LE...I really liked the actress who played Cissie as well.

(Tress) I love his hands in that scene as well. If you watch, he rubs his thumb (I think after he puts down the pen) *sigh* Love the thumb rub... Had to watch this again. I keep forgetting to watch his hands, and then I have to rewind and remember to watch again, and then I miss it and have to watch it again... Do I have a problem?

(LeahP)Had to watch this again. I keep forgetting to watch his hands, and then I have to rewind and remember to watch again, and then I miss it and have to watch it again... Do I have a problem? No!! Leah there are things I have watched multiple multiple times and still have no idea what the dialogue is or who else is even in the scene because of the rapt attention paid to ODB. I keep promising myself I will watch it differently the next time but...

I loved him in the turban and eye make-up too. And it was Olivier's last role. Something to note.

LE was the movie that "turned" my 14-year-old. Not even Pride & Prejudice had stirred her interest in ODB, but after watching young Richard Herncastle... well, now she takes an entirely different view of her mum's "obsession", and I'm observing that she perks up now whenever ODB is on-screen, rather than the glazed expression she used to have "pre-Richard".

(Sandy) LE was the movie that "turned" my 14-year-old. Richard Herncastle stirred me too, and I was already stirred up!!! (Tress) I agree they had good chemistry. Enjoyed their scenes together in LE...I really liked the actress who played Cissie as well. I agree. Cissie was perfect. It was so well done. I believe CF and CdS appeared in "Desire" in 1987 which would have been shortly after LE. They were so very, very good together. I just can't get over him in that. He is so very very handsome. I sit with a bucket when I put that one on, and I ususally prefer his more mature look. But not in this case. Also loved his look in Dutch Girls which was similar to LE. Mary asked a very good question on 165. It was here opinion that one of his best acting jobs was "Tumbledown" which I agree with and she then asked if he had really been challenged in any roll since. This is a good one ladies. Any comments. IMO I don't know if I would call him challenged. He is so superior in his abilities that he makes rolls look easy IMO. I read where he said Mark Darcy was no challenge for him. But he's quoted many times saying that Darcy was a real challenge for him. FP he said was like playing himself, only without the football interest. IMO he seemed to be having fun with The Acvocate. Hostages and Master of the Moor I thought were really good too. But as far as challenges, I don't know. He just makes it look so easy and that's because he's so exceptional. I'm sure there are some rolls he found difficult but you couldn't tell. Good question.

(FanPam) Also loved his look in Dutch Girls which was similar to LE. Loved his look in Dutch Girls! Was going to suggest to SandyM that her 14 year-old daughter might enjoy that one as well. Very young, very handsome, sweet movie (does have a red light district scene, but fairly tame stuff compared to other 'teen movies'). Liked his look in Another Country too, but might be a bit much for a 14 year-old...I was 19 when I first saw it and much of it went completely over my head (I was a bit naive), I got some of it (like how handsome all the leads were), but I didn't understand that it was based on Guy Burgess' life and I didn't understand the english school system (with prefects and head of house ect). I rewatched it years later and was surprised at all that I had missed. Regarding Mary's question on 165: Post Tumbledown...I think there have been several great roles since then (that I hoped he found challenging). I agree with Pam...he makes it look easy, but he has to be channeling some demons on a few of these parts: I enjoyed (and thought he did an exceptional job on): Hostages, Pride and Prejudice (Darcy was such a 'restricted' character. Think it has be hard to contain emotion as well as show it), Donovan Quick (loved this film and thought he was outstanding) and Conspiracy (the subject matter alone must have been tough to deal with, let alone the way it was filmed...like "12 Angry Men", there was such an intensity about the whole movie).

(Pam) He just makes it look so easy and that's because he's so exceptional. I agree totally. Unfortunately, this might keep him from getting the recognition he so richly deserves. IMO, many awards these days are being given to those guilty of overacting. It often seems that an actor who doesn't go "over the top" hasn't a chance of winning an Oscar, Emmy, etc. (I don't know if this is true for Tonys, because I haven't seen anything on Broadway in years.) I always thought the sign of a great actor was his ability to make the audience see him as whatever part he was playing, and not as an actor playing a part. To me, this is what CF does so well. He totally becomes his character, with every look and movement incorporated in his portrayal. I've often told the unColinized among my friends what an amazing actor CF is, but unless they've seen him in more than one or two films, they just don't understand my enthusiasm.

(FanPam) I ususally prefer his more mature look. But not in this case. Also loved his look in Dutch Girls which was similar to LE. Pam,I totally agree! I just watched Dutch Girls and felt the same way!! I find it incredible that I am attracted to him even in his youth as I never liked "younger men" even when I was that age, I always thought they improved dramatically after 30 but with ODB all of my little isms get tossed out the window... as far as challenges, I don't know. He just makes it look so easy and that's because he's so exceptional. What a difficult question to ask of a bunch of devotees....His skills are so very extraordinary, and there is a dearth of extraordinary (i.e "challenging") material or roles. I have to go back to my food/wine analogies..(humor me)..A friend of ours is an amazing chef...He has worked and apprenticed himself with the best in the business and it shows..Eating his food is an sensual epiphany and yet there are those that eat his food that just want a steak and a baked potato. They live on one plane of existence and are unaware of all the layers beyond that hold so many more treasures beyond the ordinary. He is recognized but not in the way of those that shamelessly self promote and whore themselves to the food media..O.K., O.K., you can see where this all leads, (I hope) ODB IMO has always raised the bar for every production he has been in. There are bits and pieces of the exceptional in all of his performances and I can only hope that there is more than just steak and potatoes on his plate in the future...

There are bits and pieces of the exceptional in all of his performances Sorry to repost on my own post but I realized this line could be easily misconstrued...I should have just said, his acting is exceptional even when the material or fellow actors performances leave something to be desired...

(MariaT) ODB IMO has always raised the bar for every production he has been in. There are bits and pieces of the exceptional in all of his performances and I can only hope that there is more than just steak and potatoes on his plate in the future... What a great way to put this! He has raised the bar...if you think of even his worst movies, he is never the weakest link and is usually the one performer who shines. I hope ODB can get more than steak and potatoes! He is an exceptional performer and it would be a waste of his talent otherwise. I can easily see him getting an Oscar (or the elusive BAFTA) if only he were in the right role. I watch the Oscars year after year and I often see, what I think are mediocre actors, getting the golden guy because they had a great part...ODB is a great performer who just hasn't found that one role yet...I keep hoping (and get excited whenever I see a drama on his list of 'to-do's' since it's all about the drama)!

(Murph)Do you think Colin has grown as an actor over the years? I was thinking today that, IMO, his best role was Tumbledown many years ago. Outside of AZ, SIL and Conspiracy, has he been as challenged since? IMO, he was, on the whole, doing much more challenging work 15 years ago. Who would have thought that the young man who burst on the scene in Another Country or who mesmerized in Tumbledown or AMITC or AZ . . . would be doing Londinium, SLOW, Relative Values, TTOTS, and WAGW?! It's sad, to me. This is a distinguished actor. I do not like the preponderance of comedies. He does fine in them, but his forte is drama. He was truly outstanding in Conspiracy. I also very much liked him in 3DOR--playing two very different characters in a talky, complex play, in an accent not his own. Challenging. We do have GWAPE to look forward to on the drama front, but frankly it may be another repressed, emotionally constipated role, and I'm tiring of them because he's done so many. Again, the sameness. No growth, which is what your question was about.

(Mari) IMO, he was, on the whole, doing much more challenging work 15 years ago. I often wonder if his personal life has something to do with his choices. I mean, 15 years ago, he was a single guy. Now he has two kids to support and I think that maybe he often does things to pay the bills (how else to explain PM or L'dum). Also, he seems very happy in his current family life and I wonder if his work just isn't the priority it used to be (he would rather be with wife and kid(s) than take that job which would require him to be away for too long...or do a screen test...it just isn't as important to him now??). I may be totally off base with this, because when he does get a role, he puts all he's got into it (no slacker), but he just doesn't seem too aggressive about seeking out projects...

Sorry - My question was in the wrong place. Here it is as FanPam indicates above: A question to throw out there (and I hope it belongs here) -- Do you think Colin has grown as an actor over the years? I was thinking today that, IMO, his best role was Tumbledown many years ago. Outside of AZ, SIL and Conspiracy, has he been as challenged since?

I don't know where I'm supposed to talk about my Darcy Sim, but you should see him! I made one today, and he's perfect! I'm gonna try to find some way to post a closeup of his face so that you can look at him! LOL!

Ok... here's his lil face And his lil body.... I'm gonna have to work on making him some new clothes.

Jeanie, something important is missing! Haven't you been paying attention to the left-right discussions?

(KathyF)Jeanie, something important is missing! Haven't you been paying attention to the left-right discussions? Yeah, Jeanie, I know flat front slacks are in, but Darcy looks like he needs some left/right enhancement.

And with those hands on the hips, he looks more like he'd be Peter than Darcy. ;-)

Jeanie, I really like your Darcy Sim. Can he be plugged into The Sims, or is he purely decorative? I think maybe a little shading to give the pants some ... dimension?

(Kathy) I always thought the sign of a great actor was his ability to make the audience see him as whatever part he was playing, and not as an actor playing a part. I agree 100%. IMO the actor has done the job if I laugh, cry, love or hate the person they are portraying. Evoking any emotional reaction means I believe they are who they are portraying and that is to me what an actor's job is. After seeing a movie instead of thinking of the character all I can think of is the actor who played it, then they didn't convince me, therefore not doing the job. IMO. The exception being of course the actor who has done such a good job that they become the character to me, Colin is Darcy, Richard Herncastle, Donovan Quick, etc. (MariaT) Sorry to repost on my own post but I realized this line could be easily misconstrued...I should have just said, his acting is exceptional even when the material or fellow actors performances leave something to be desired. I agree 100% and understand your analogy of people looking at only the surface and not be willing to see all the wonderful things lieing underneath. His acting unfolds on so many levels. I didn't mean in any way to imply it was easy, just so my statement isn't misconstrued. His abilities allow his performances to LOOK EASY. Being the highest of compliments. Great Darcy Sim Jeanie. You should be proud. He does however need to be anatomicly correct. (Tress) I often wonder if his personal life has something to do with his choices. I agree 100%. IMO that's the crux of the matter, but since we are not privy to his logic in picking the films he does I guess we will never know. IMO We can only hope that that "perfect roll" comes to him, and that he takes it. Many articles have been posted showing what is a marketable movie now, being aimed at the 18 to 30 crowd as the most financially successful. So that is what the production companies are going to make. At least that's what I've discerned from the articles. So IMO if an actor wants to work they have to accept the roles in whatever type of film is popular. It may not be something that will showcase their forte but when there are not alot of choices being offered IMO the actor is forced to take what is offered. One thing we do know for sure is that whatever movie he is in he will shine above the other actors and the plot.

Oh, my lil darcy is fully functional! (giggling inanely) I had him studying cooking books today while he sat in the library so that he won't burn Pemberley to the ground the first time he attempts to cook some dinner. The outfit he has on wasn't made by me. I plan for my darcy suits to have more detail. Once I start on some personalized clothing for my little brooder, I'll have to consider the left/right situation. ;) Meg, you just put his files into the "skins" folder in the sims directory, and then you can choose him once you're making your family. I'll send him to you once I get him a little more perfected if you wish for me to. Rika is just as wonderful as she appears to be online, if not more so! =) We had a great time, and I really enjoyed LE. I'm hoping our paths will cross again one of these days.

(Murph)Do you think Colin has grown as an actor over the years? I was thinking today that, IMO, his best role was Tumbledown many years ago. Outside of AZ, SIL and Conspiracy, has he been as challenged since? Do you think part of the reason for this is also that he has decided to concentrate on feature films? I am sure he could get plum roles in television in the UK but he has obviously decided that at this stage of his career he should be trying to make a go of film rather than television. I am sure he could take his pick of TV roles but the movie industry is an American medium largely and he is less well known there so he has less room to pick and choose.

(Allison)I am sure he could get plum roles in television in the UK I agree, everytime I see a new drama on A&E, etc. I think-this would be perfect for CF. Lots more viewing time as well. I often wish he would do more TV as well as the films. But, that of course is IMO.

I often wish he would do more TV But that might be seen as a downward move in the industry.

I often wish he would do more TV But that might be seen as a downward move in the industry. And where would that leave us, who don't live in England or the USA and never get to see his TV-work? Exept P&P and Nostromo I have never had the opportunity to see anything he did for TV.

(Nita)And where would that leave us, I didn't mean to suggest that he should do TV at the expense of his film career. Nor should he do TV exclusively, but an A&E drama every now and then would certainly help to fill in the gaps, and most of those are shown around the world.

Jeanie -- Thanks! Can't wait! RE: I'd like to see him do more of the talk show circut of course. Do you think it's too soon to start nagging Letterman to ask him to be on the show? Or even Leno. I wish we could view British DVD's and tapes on American machines. There are so many things I haven't seen. Does anyone out there have the book on tape he did? I could listen to that voice for hours... Don't much care what he's even saying.

(Tress) I often wonder if his personal life has something to do with his choices. I mean, 15 years ago, he was a single guy. Now he has two kids to support and I think that maybe he often does things to pay the bills (how else to explain PM or L'dum). I completely agree that his family life has changed his priorities, and I certainly cannot fault him for that... good news for his family, bad news for us that love to see him accomplish meatier roles. Oh, and on that subject, I realized last night while watching LE with DVDiva that sweet baby-faced Richard could and did KISS! (laughing) I'd love to see him turn it on in a kissing scene now like he did back then. He was completely adorable... all legs, knees, elbows and raging hormones..LOL!

(jeanie) that sweet baby-faced Richard could and did KISS! (laughing) I'd love to see him turn it on in a kissing scene now like he did back then. He was completely adorable... all legs, knees, elbows and raging hormones..LOL! LOL. You mean he not only did better, work 15 yrs ago...but he even kissed better 15 yrs ago;-)

(Evelyn), You mean he not only did better, work 15 yrs ago...but he even kissed better 15 yrs ago;-) Well... he did seem to kiss better back then. ;-) And the roles were more interesting too. (Tress), I think that maybe he often does things to pay the bills (how else to explain PM or L'dum). I don't think he got paid much for either role. I know MB works on a very low budget and asks friends to do it. The sad truth is that he might have done L because he liked the script! I have seen the Italian films that he's liked and they are big ZZZZZZZ. I would have liked to have seen him as Ted Hughes. I thought he gave up on it without a fight. A co-starring role with Gwynneth would have been a great move. Let's hope TEOR and Fade to Black become a reality.

(Tress), I think that maybe he often does things to pay the bills (how else to explain PM or L'dum). (Moon)I don't think he got paid much for either role. True he probably didn't get paid *that* much for PM in comparison to some others, but didn't he say he took it because he had a family to support, wasn't getting work living with Meg in the sticks, and it paid well for a short shoot? L'dum is a puzzlement. MB must be some friend. Maybe it looked better on paper. With different casting...who knows how it could've turned out, too.

(Meg) I wish we could view British DVD's and tapes on American machines Some auction sites sell DVD hacks (supposedly legal) that allow you, via the remote, to change the software to allow your player to accept other region DVDs.(Doesn't work with my brand, unfortunately). You can email them to check before you buy. Worth a try!!

(Nita)And where would that leave us, who don't live in England or the USA and never get to see his TV-work? You find a Firthfan who lives in UK/Europe and you borrow them. Watch your email.

(FanPam) Many articles have been posted showing what is a marketable movie now, being aimed at the 18 to 30 crowd as the most financially successful. So that is what the production companies are going to make. It is unfortunate. I honestly would rather see ODB in a small, independent film of good quality, than in a blockbuster with a formula plot and a Hollywood ending...just my opinion. Won't get him that Oscar (although there seems to be a growing trend right now and more and more people are seeking out "alternate" movies...he may get the recognition even in a small film). (Jeanie) Meg, you just put his files into the "skins" folder in the sims directory, and then you can choose him once you're making your family. I'll send him to you once I get him a little more perfected if you wish for me to. Oh, me too! Me too! (Pretty please)!!! ;-) (lindak) I often wish he would do more TV. (Allison M) But that might be seen as a downward move in the industry. I don't know. BBC and A&E do some pretty good stuff. I don't know if it is seen as a downward move anymore. In the US we have Keifer Sutherland doing 24, James Gandolfini doing The Sopranos, The West Wing is loaded with stars. Sex and the City (these are all serials I realize, but it has really done something for the stars of those shows). (Jeanie) I completely agree that his family life has changed his priorities, and I certainly cannot fault him for that... I cannot fault him either. If he has to make a choice, I would rather he take care of family and be happy (whimper...even if it means we have to see less of him). (Moon) I would have liked to have seen him as Ted Hughes. I was very disappointed to hear that he did not go for this...it could have been *the role*. Oh well.... (Evelyn) LOL. You mean he not only did better, work 15 yrs ago...but he even kissed better 15 yrs ago;-) LOL....I think maybe the women in his life (first MT then LD) may have something to do with his new kissing technique. He has to keep it chaste, otherwise, there may be h*ll to pay when he gets home!! :-D (Meg) Does anyone out there have the book on tape he did? I could listen to that voice for hours... Don't much care what he's even saying. I was just talking about this one the other day!! Moonstar was saying to check ebay because she has seen copies (I have done this sporadically, and am going to be more aggressive in my search now...I always see the book, but never the audio). BTW Meg, it is "Comeback" by Dick Francis (you may already have known that). I also want to hear the BBC Radio program "The One Before the Last". I have heard it is v. v. good.

Hi everyone, coming out of lurkdom after a much too long absence!! I have been so busy with work and other CRAP, it is almost to impossible to keep up with CF news, let alone chime in.... I wanted to let you know that I HAVE the book, COMEBACK on audiotape. I would be happy to attempt to make some copies..I bought it about a year ago on EBAY... very pricey... but I could listen to his voice read the phone book.. so worth it!! email me at this address... sandi

He also narrated the docu "Bintley's Mozart" and a small fragment of "Moby Dick" on an Italian CD. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

(Evelyn) ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ That bad??? Both of them...??? I'd love to hear him do all of 'Moby Dick'..."Call me Ishmael" Mmmmmmm.....guessing he didn't do that part though since you said it was a small fragment. On an Italian CD...did he do it in Italian??? It may be worth a listen then! "Bintley's Mozart"? Never heard of that one either...is it actually about Mozart? From your reaction, I would guess it is not as gripping as 'Amadeus'. Still, possibly better than the phone book... ;-)

Still, possibly better than the phone book... ;-) LOL. Mobetta than Londinium. I haven't seen Bintlely'Mozart in 5 yrs. Unbearably boring. He speaks in a monotone. It's a docu of a ballet company.I'll check it out again and tell you about it in detail. The CD is called "Dreamtime" by Carlo Franci. Some of the pieces are electronic music . He narrates the one in English "Music for an Albatross" "In the straightforward writing of The Albatross one recognizes a search for absolute internalization. The string orchestra converses with the electronic sounds, and interacts with them blending with them to the point at which the orchestra is swept into a chasm of sonority.....blah, blah.." The last three pieces on the CD are: Dreamtime: The narrator recites the morning prayer of the Buddhist Soka-Gakkai sect of Japan. Mandala: For the Tibetan Buddhist the wheel of the Mandala is the residence of the gods. Rain Dreaming: The voices in this piece are from the Ngapa Aboriginies of North-west Australia and the Mbuti Pygmy children from the Congo region of Africa. A garanteed cure for insomnia... LOL. Emma found them online at a fire sale!!

(Evelyn) LOL. You mean he not only did better, work 15 yrs ago...but he even kissed better 15 yrs ago;-) Welllll, I guess I should rephrase and say that his onscreen kisses of the past tend to appear more passionate to me. I can't speak of how he really kisses now, but, like many of us, such talents can only tend toimprove with age and experience! ;) Tress, I'll be glad to send my lil brooder to you once I can find some better clothes for him, and I need to work a bit on his ears and hands. They're not as clear as they should be in my opinion. Oh, and Dorine, because of your insult upon his manliness, lil darcy says he will not subject himself to be an object of ridicule again and has locked himself in the library and refuses to come out. =P I wish there was some way I could teach him to say "Wot!". Rika and I attempted to count the "Wot"s Richard said last night. Oh wow... just finished watching SLOW for the first time. I have to vote Matthew in for "the best hair" role. He was simply beautiful.

(Evelyn re: Bintley's Mozart) LOL. Mobetta than Londinium. LOL...but isn't everything better the L'dum?? And please, don't watch it again on my account (if it is such a snoozer)! I wonder if it was done during his time with Meg? She was a ballerina...could explain the monotone...it was her interest, not his....'honey, you HAVE to do that ballet gig! It would be so wonderful!!' ;-) A garanteed cure for insomnia... LOL! Maybe that's why they called it Dreamtime? I found it on Yahoo Shopping (none available at this time, in case anyone was wondering), but I think ODB's 'piece' is about 3rd on the CD and if it is as exciting as Evelyn describes it, there may be time to hear him before you slip into that deep, deep sleep (I could actuallly think of worse things than hearing ODB's voice prior to snoozing)... ;-) (Jeanie) Tress, I'll be glad to send my lil brooder to you once I can find some better clothes for him.... Oh, goodie! He's coming all dressed up and ready to go! (Jeanie)...just finished watching SLOW for the first time. I have to vote Matthew in for "the best hair" role. He was simply beautiful. He does look particularly well in SLOW (which is why I don't have such a hard time with that movie)...pure eye-candy! (Dorine) L'dum is a puzzlement. MB must be some friend. Maybe it looked better on paper. I'm thinking CF must be some friend. MB had nothing to lose in this case...ODB has been in a couple of Oscar nominated films. It's a puzzle to me...the same man who chose to do SIL and TEP, chose to select L'dum as a project! I can't imagine it looking better on paper (okay, I can, because he can't hear MB's whiny, annoying voice)! ;-)

Just wanted to say that I just won an auction for a Femme Fatal DVD on eBay. The seller (from Hong Kong) guarantees it is region free. I guess FF is a new release to DVD? I'll let you know what it looks like when I get it.

(Barb S) The seller (from Hong Kong) guarantees it is region free. I guess FF is a new release to DVD? I have a friend who is into old kung-fu movies and gets a lot of DVDs from Hong Kong. They are usually burned from the VHS tape onto a DVD. Most look professionally done and are quite good. Please let us know what it looks like! Imagine, PM could be next and then the frame-by-frame stuff could get really out of hand! ;-)

Jeanie, so glad you liked LE and he was indeed raging hormones and an excellent kisser. So passionate, so willing and so uninhibited. Have to say IMO on-screen kisses were better 15 years ago. Wouldn't even hazard a guess about quality of private kissing, as I believe they are out of my realm of experience and why punish myself any further. (Tress) I don't know. BBC and A&E do some pretty good stuff. I don't know if it is seen as a downward move anymore. In the US we have Keifer Sutherland doing 24, James Gandolfini doing The Sopranos, The West Wing is loaded with stars. Sex and the City (these are all serials I realize, but it has really done something for the stars of those shows). I agree good TV would be a wise career move. A&E BBC HBO. HBO gave us Conspiracy and him an Emmy nod. Potential is there. The majority of the cited stars also have film careers so it can be successfully intertwined. IMO if there was an actor I watched faithfully on TV appearing in a movie I would definitely see the movie and vise versa if the actor usually in films appeared on tv. So I think it would be good exposure. And even series today aren't as time consuming for actors as they used to be. They actually used to do 26 episodes. Now we're lucky if they do eight or 10 in a year affording them plenty of time for other projects IMO. Plus the salaries seem to be quite good.

(Pam) Keifer Sutherland doing 24, James Gandolfini doing The Sopranos, The West Wing is loaded with stars. Sex and the City Um....actually...what of note, that has been a success critically or commercially, has any of the people in these shows done in movies. Yes, it's excellent exposure, but most of their film choices have been dubious, at best, as well. Martin Sheen is the only one I can think of out of this group that has done anything of note. And please don't construe that I'm insinuating the others are not talented in some way, I'm just saying that success in TV, does not translate to success in movies (and vice versa). Look at David Caruso, for example. He's not back on TV because he's done so well with movies. He's been in quite a few, but would not say that medium was good for/to him. TV *is* generally good money...or at least a steady paycheck.