What are you listening to right now?

~Wolf Sat, Jan 3, 1998 (19:54) #401

kindof, not saying that the thing pursued is foolish.

~pmnh Sat, Jan 3, 1998 (19:59) #402

i think everybody more or less does the best they can (except for maybe cher... no excuse for her, you know)... calling one's self (or anyone) a fool can only be hurtful, don't you think?

~Wolf Sat, Jan 3, 1998 (20:03) #403

i agree. (can't help but feel you're missing a part of the whole meaning) (will you be around later this evening?)

~pmnh Sat, Jan 3, 1998 (20:06) #404

yeah, i guess so... really don't feel like going anywhere... seeya later?

~Wolf Sat, Jan 3, 1998 (20:07) #405

yes, definately...when?

~pmnh Sat, Jan 3, 1998 (20:14) #406

i dunno... you tell me?

~pmnh Sat, Jan 3, 1998 (20:16) #407

wouldn't it be cool to get this topic to 500 before wer comes on? (take THAT, colin firth... we'd have to be champeens, with 500 responses...)

~Afor Sat, Jan 3, 1998 (21:49) #408

God, how do you FIND so much garbage to chat?

~Afor Sat, Jan 3, 1998 (21:50) #409

BTW, listening to Gimme No Crack by Shinehead

~Wolf Sat, Jan 3, 1998 (22:05) #410

Ok, am waiting to push this thing over 500, where you at, Nick?

~Wolf Sat, Jan 3, 1998 (23:59) #411

well, looks like I'm gonna have to attempt it by myself. hmmmmm.....

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:00) #412

Sorry Sam....

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:00) #413

have a mission......

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:01) #414

to accomplish.........

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:04) #415

you still there?

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:08) #416

oh, thank God. Thought I was gonna really have to do this alone...

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:11) #417

sorry... ended up going out for awhile...

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:12) #418

that did cross my mind, rather briefly. (no issues this time, I hope)

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:16) #419

not in the context you mean...

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:17) #420

oh no......what happened this time?

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:21) #421

nothing of consequence...

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:23) #422

good. (wanna pick up where we left off?)

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:24) #423

and where was that?

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:26) #424

(listening to natalie, by the way... "i may know the word"..

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:26) #425

if you don't know, i'm not gonna tell you (it was pretty, uh, nerve racking)

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:27) #426

If ya'll still here, you didn't make it... can I get in on this whole I wanna be the fool thing? (and would love to read the can't post thing, nick, unless it refers to the only personette here that I've met...)

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:29) #427

hi wer, gave it my best effort....... (c'mon, there's not gonna be a fight over this one gal is there?)

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:33) #428

*lol* no, wer... no one you know (least i don't think so)... go to the planet, at: www.angelfire.com/la/diogenesbob/index.html and you can read it there... (and please, by all means, give us a hand, wer...500 is a noble goal...)

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:35) #429

sigh (always get it wrong) http//www.angelfire.com/la/diogenesbob/index.html

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:36) #430

forgot the little : after http.....*smile*

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:37) #431

anybody laughs, they're dead... http://www.angelfire.com/la/diogenesbob/index.html (a matter of principle now, you know)

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:38) #432

http://www.angelfire.com/la/diogenesbob/index.html maybe?

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:39) #433

hey, how'd you do that? (still haven't figured it out *laugh* and you thought you were computer illiterate, country boy)

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:40) #434

(whew) as you were saying?

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:41) #435

as who was saying?

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:43) #436

said i was a hillbilly (not a country boy)... let's be accurate in our phraseology...

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:44) #437

sorry, that swamp gas

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:45) #438

went and read it, but not the six replies... can't decide if I should put on a coat or ask how to order my own block (o' ice that is)

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:46) #439

yeah, but wasn't that line good?

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:47) #440

(Nick, think you may have accomplished that thing you were trying to avoid)

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:48) #441

a little chilly, yes...

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:48) #442

my turn: huh?

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:49) #443

(what have i accomplished that i was trying to avoid?)

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:49) #444

duh!

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:50) #445

the verse (was rather chilly)

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:52) #446

well, you two. i'm outta here *yawn*. have fun! nighty-night

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:52) #447

my huh was for you accomplishing what you wanted to avoid, not the chilly, got that, not that dense... thought it had something to do with me reading it...

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:52) #448

sheesh! duh, back... (answer my question)

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:53) #449

me?

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:54) #450

but you know how we get in trouble when our chaperone isn't here... g'night, Wolfsie...

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:55) #451

wer, what just happened? i am totally mystified...

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:58) #452

near as I can figure, Wolf types too damn fast, I type too damn slow, and you read everything sequentially...

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:59) #453

tell me...(i AM that dense)... what'd i do now?

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (00:59) #454

(haven't logged out yet) *giggle*

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:00) #455

lol (very good, wer...)

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:00) #456

Who are you talking to Nick?

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:01) #457

ms. beau, you're a sneak...

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:01) #458

apparently, me, too... who ya talking to now?

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:02) #459

please inform me what i was trying to avoid (that's a start)

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:05) #460

for starters, you were wondering if'n you oughta post a certain piece right here, you then proceeded to change your mind due to feelings of another, then you posted the website. DUH!

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:08) #461

is that all? she'll never read it here... she only checks out the places where she knows that i post... never mentioned the planet...

~Wolf Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:09) #462

silly me...... 'night

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:10) #463

hurry up and get to 500 gotta go for a sec and install a game on the inlaws computer

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:12) #464

trying...

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:14) #465

listening to jackson browne, by the way... (The Pretender..."here come those tears again")

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:18) #466

so, nick, when I give you your spear, is we gonna kills da womens first?

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:22) #467

now there's an idea...

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:22) #468

for Sam, I'm currently listening to the wife wrap Christmas ornaments... Nick, why was you saying I'm lucky cause Stacey and I got along in person?

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:23) #469

like to spare a couple, though (for sentimental reasons, you know)

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:25) #470

can think (can't stop thinking!) about a few myself... shouldn't we just go ahead and admit defeat?

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:25) #471

because it often doesn't work out that way (but maybe that's my particular affliction... tend to lose interest quickly)

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:28) #472

on to my buts... but what difference does it make, in my case she lives a long way off, wouldn't it have been better to have not gone well?

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:30) #473

"...He knew his life was little, and would be extinguished, and that only the darkness was immense, and everlasting. And he knew that he would die with defiance on his lips, and that the shout of his denial would ring out with the last pulsing of his heart, into the maw of all-engulfing night..." (Thomas Wolfe) never say die...

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:30) #474

now, I'll be able to "believe" things that aren't true and cause myself a whole sh**load of trouble... (I make it sound like I haven't started...)

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:32) #475

easy for you to say... I could have spent days talking to her. guess her next scheduled visit to Austin? 2 years.

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:32) #476

you raise an interesting point... but no, i don't think so... i think if that had been the case, you'd just feel like crap (and what's the good of that?)

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:35) #477

why do you think I don't? don't you realize your self destructive tendencies and the ever philosophical self fulfilling prophecies?

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:39) #478

don't remember who wrote it, but i think it applies: "better an ignis fatuus/ than no illume at all" re: self-destr. tend., etc..., not sure i follow you...

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:43) #479

could be, you seem more stable than I am... I "know" at certain times what actions to avoid or how things are going to come out. I can never figure out however, if by "knowing" am I causing said events to transpire.

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (01:49) #480

no doubt... i know i do that... in fact, i had a relationship once that had some similarities... the girl was in college, and we communicated, for several years mostly by mail... when she graduated, and moved back to town, it became pretty serious... but disappointment (boredom, whatever) set in after a bit, and i screwed it up, just as any other... i guess, the thing is, no one can "fix" you... you gotta fix yourself...

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:00) #481

next but, but what if I'm wrong sometime, should I attempt to fix something that isn't broken yet, or will I break it no matter what I do because of the original "knowledge"?

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:07) #482

i think you've gotta find the reason you keep assuming everything's "broken", and fix that... because, otherwise, yeah, i think the chances are good ("original knowledge", considered) that you'd find a way to break it, no matter what (don't you?)...

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:11) #483

the broken assumption comes usually from misinterpreting the other person's objectives, or thinking theirs are similar to mine, or at least based on the same reasoning. like the whole better to have loved and lost crap, not my world view. I can't miss what I never had...

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:20) #484

don't know about that... i have "mystical" ideas, regarding love... and don't view this puny existence with a lot of reverence (and what of it there is, IS only because of love)... both intellectual and emotional under- standing are problematic, of course... depending upon what your standard is, you could be setting yourself up for disappointment... the most desired communion (to me) is a deeper one, what is commonly referred to as "spiritual", i suppose, but may be more appropriately referred to as visceral (beyond our kens)...

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:25) #485

that is pretty much how I feel also, but it seems that when I do the other doesn't. not actually true, when I do the other doesn't allow themself to because it is "inappropriate" for where they are in their life. women I know are much more cerebral in this aspect than I am, I follow my "feelings" and try to ignore my head...they tend to only pay attention to the practical.

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:31) #486

yeah, but they sure wanta talk about it, don't they? i have encountered a little of that, but i am luckily (or unluckily, depending on how one looks at it) pretty persuasive... and that's really the thing... i've found they (that particular type) nearly always WANT to be talked into it... just have to find the words for 'em to hang it on (so to speak)...

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:37) #487

I don't like being the "Gentle Persuader" (great song, though) I want everything to be nice and even and fair...good thing Wolf and/or Stacey isn't on right, now, either...that capital WANT thing could get us both flayed (not that that couldn't be fun with Stacey, but...)

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:38) #488

yeah, but they sure wanta talk about it, don't they? i have encountered a little of that, but i am luckily (or unluckily, depending on how one looks at it) pretty persuasive... and that's really the thing... i've found they (that particular type) nearly always WANT to be talked into it... just have to find the words for 'em to hang it on (so to speak)...

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:45) #489

getting tired, Nick?

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:47) #490

no, i'll probably write most of the night... what about you?

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:48) #491

(listening to that screwy 70's tape, by the way...)

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:49) #492

don't know, but only nine more posts to go. Been to the main page lately? Terry's got a link to this topic there. Think we should tell 'im to change it?

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:52) #493

Space Ghost's Musical Barbecue

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:54) #494

no, i never enter through the main page... you mean there's a link to "what are you listening to now"?... my god... (the sound you just heard was my jaw hitting the floor... that could definitely be a problem... how many links are there?)

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:56) #495

at least one to every conference, and a BIG HUGE one to this topic. go check it out http://www.spring.com

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (02:59) #496

omigod... my life just flashed before my eyes...

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:02) #497

if she reads that thing, i swear i will never answer my phone/door/ computer again...

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:02) #498

time to see if Terry'll make ya a host in this conference so you can retire this topic? besides, you've got less to fear than I do if my wife ever logs in....

~pmnh Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:08) #499

(is your wife violent?) she would never wander from poetry, unless perhaps by invitation of a screen-wide link... (maybe i can get db to delete the poem, at the planet...)

~KitchenManager Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:10) #500

if you mean like in destroy the computer, kick me out of the house, and never let me see my little girl again, I'd have to say yes...