~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:13)
#501
are you serious?
wer, that's a problem (a scary one)...
and i've been there, done that (and
it's WORSE than you imagine it)...
~KitchenManager
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:15)
#502
nick, I've gotten caught before,
by this one...
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:18)
#503
still listening to that funky 70's thing...
danny o'keefe ("good-time charlie's (still) got the blues)...
pertinent lyric:
"you know my heart keeps tellin' me
you're not a kid at 33
you play around you lose your wife
you play too long, you lose your life..."
(ouch!)
~KitchenManager
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:22)
#504
Okay, I entered a new topic,
you get Terry to change the link...
(it won't be worse than I think...)
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:25)
#505
so you're planning on getting caught?
~KitchenManager
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:29)
#506
nope, nothing but words to get
burnt on this time, but I'm not
hiding anything either. all my
passwords are either known, or
are on permo-enter, she just
hasn't checked up on me yet...
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:33)
#507
and what does this tell you?
look, i was unfaithful many, many
times when i was married... but i was
never even nearly caught (and, God,
divorce is tough enough as it is)...
are you sure you don't want to get
caught (subconciously, or whatever)...
~KitchenManager
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:39)
#508
don't honestly know,
pretty sure after last
time I don't want to
get busted again...
in fact haven't done
anything again...
I guess honestly
it would be a way
out that she "initiated"...
~KitchenManager
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:41)
#509
gotta take a nap, Nick,
I have to be at work in
four hours, and I work
two shifts today followed
by an open to close Monday
and Tuesday...
think we can get this topic
retired?
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:47)
#510
but it's not a good one... too many
bad, bad scenarios attached to that...
if you're gonna do it, better to just
stand up, and do it cleanly, and it's
especially important to do it during
a time when you're unencumbered by other
attachments... hafta warn you, though,
it's a hard road, when kids are involved...
can't honestly say which guilt is worse
(infidelity or hurting your kids, by divorcing
their mother)... it's sort of a lose/lose
proposition...
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (03:50)
#511
i dunno... changing the link
serves my needs, just fine...
aren't we champeens now?
(510 responses)
~Afor
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (04:33)
#512
To quote Sam the American Eagle from The Muppet Show:
"You are all WEIRDOS!"
~KitchenManager
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (10:04)
#513
My apologies to everyone involved
(tried to warn ya Wolf what would happen
without our chaperone) I've got this
it's a new year and where am I thing going
on, Nick's a great cathartic, and this is
only one of several things my head is
working on right now. But, this place
is cheaper than drugs or therapy...
~KitchenManager
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (11:13)
#514
and did I mention my mom's triple bypass
for this coming Friday?
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (12:20)
#515
You guys surpassed the goal! Good Job-and am now caught up, and you
thought no one was listening. Think the stuff posted here is supposed to be
read by those folks we're avoiding, huh? Like part of you wants to get caught,
wer! And Nick, FYI, I can talk myself into/out of nearly anything, don't need any
help. (is this some sort of challenge you give yourself, how many of us you can
talk into stuff?)
Sorry Sam......
~KitchenManager
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:04)
#516
Nick, Terry already adjusted the link
on the main page (I asked him to this
morning...)
Wolf, see the new and improved topic 38
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:06)
#517
sigh...
that's not what i meant... not all
women are the same (any more than all
men)... we were discussing a certain
"type", and made no value judgements
regarding that "type", nor did we make
any assumptions (god help us) regarding
the applicability of applying that type
to any particular person (especially
not any particular person here)...
(clear enough?)
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:08)
#518
you're a champ, wer
(and thanks terry!)
~KitchenManager
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:10)
#519
it just remains to be seen,
champion what...
top o' the afternoon to ya, Wolf!
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:22)
#520
you too! (sorry Nick, once again, my womanly instinct got me in trouble). see
ya at the other topic *wink*
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:25)
#521
what other topic?
h'aint we champeens now?
h'aint we goin' fer a thousand?
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:29)
#522
you know Nick, the one especially created out of necessity
(*peck* on the cheek for jumpin' on your case)
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:34)
#523
you mean the new one (with front page link)?
you'll forgive me for avoiding that one, lest
i have something on-topic to convey...
(and i told ya before- no biting)
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:35)
#524
Ok, I get it. We can still talk here (sorry, took me a while)
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:36)
#525
(shoot, not even a li'l growl? no licking either? *wink*)
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:38)
#526
so, whatterya up to?
(besides jumping to conclusions?)
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:39)
#527
nada, debating whether or not to go out somewhere. you?
(yeah, am good at that, tis why you gots to talk plainly)
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:46)
#528
watching, alternately, the packers, and
"buffy the vampire slayer"...
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:50)
#529
yer kiddin' right?
(that must be a guy thing, lemme guess, you gotta see what's on every channel
during a commercial too, huh?)
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:54)
#530
whattaya mean?
(the packers game is kinda boring... and i'm
a big buffy fan, though i prefer the tv buffy...)
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (15:57)
#531
dunno a thing about buffy, so no comment.......
(am listening to byran adams again -so far so good)
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (16:03)
#532
well, buffy rules... never been too
awfully partial to blondes, but kristy
swanson's okay...
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (16:09)
#533
wow (about blondes). Think there's not too many of yous out there what likes
us darker headed ladies.
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (16:18)
#534
that's not true (merely conditioning
speaking)... most of my friends actually
don't care all that much (actually, in their
case, though, not due to particular largeness
of spirit... more like frenzied desperation)...
i've only had a couple of blonde girlfriends...
do have one friend who's sort of nutso on the
subject, though (but he swears it isn't true)...
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (16:23)
#535
there's too many gals running around trying to be what they think you fellas
want. would be much better if we could just say, here it is, take it or leave it,
you know? dunno if I have a preference (and not due to desperation). just
gotta look in the eyes first, then look at everything else. (and hands-and you
know what I mean there)
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (16:31)
#536
ah, yes... the infamous "nasty hands" (aka, "mark
of the beast", "digitalus profanus", etc...)
i do have a preference (weaver, of course), but
work mightily to overcome it... in the aftermath
of nearly every relationship i've had, though, i
can see the true motivation involved (her hair, eyes,
mouth, smell, eyebrows (natalie, you know)... it
is diseased, but it works (after it's fashion...)
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (16:36)
#537
do you search for pieces of weaver? i only know of three men who paid
attention to me in detail. One, an ex fiance, second, a man who was smitten, and then a friend. Notice that they are in the past tense.
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (16:46)
#538
you never know what men are paying
attention to... men aren't verbally
oriented, by and large... they usually
don't express well, but that doesn't
mean they don't feel or perceive (they
do)... and that's not necessarily a bad
thing (just the way it is... and does
give something of an advantage to those
who can "express", even if it's mostly
b.s.)...
and yeah, of course i do... if i see someone
possessing a characteristic reminiscent of
her, i'm hooked (at least for a little while)...
that's only human, isn't it?
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (16:53)
#539
they weren't necessarily verbally expressive, but in their presence, I could feel
it, you know what I mean? And it wasn't the same as someone checkin' you
out.
yes, I suppose it's only human, you hope for it, you think, omigod, could it be
her? and then you're lost in it for awhile. unfortunately, it's not too good for
the recipient and ultimately not good for you either.
From my perspective, I'd hate to be the object of someone's desire because I
remind them of someone else. I would wish to be desired for me. For something
about me that would hold their attention. maybe i'm just stuck in fairy tale land.
Where's that damn fairygodmother anyway? (can't see myself as the heroine in
one of those things anyway, i'd be a side character) *knowing smile*
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (16:59)
#540
didn't say it was healthy, said it
was human (rather be human any day,
it's less work)...
and i think being the "heroine" begins
with seeing yourself as such...
(should not be a "side character" in
one's own life...)
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:03)
#541
being human is much better than pretending to be someone else.
about being the "heroine"-didn't mean about my own life. meant that, god this is
hard for me......ok, I know that when I walk in a room no one stops anything to
look, and when they do, it's usually because I've just done something stupid. And I'm not saying that I want to be the star, either......Nick, this is way too hard
for me to express....what I mean is, that when it comes to attraction, I'm low on
the menu. there........
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:18)
#542
first, most women think that...our society,
ostensibly woman-glorifying, is in reality,
i think, woman-abasing, and conditions you to
think that you don't measure up to the "goddess"
standard it invented (mostly to sell deoderant
or something)...
and second, that standard is a lot of crap... do
you honestly value yourself based on whether or
not a room stops when you enter it? should anyone?
and look at the terminology you use- "low on the
menu"... whose menu? some guy, who is most certainly
of no more human value than you (and probably appreciably
less)? and do you consider yourself to be some item,
some commodity, to be "served up"?
i have no patience with that kind of thinking
(sorry)...
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:20)
#543
no, but it was the only way I could find the words to express it. sorry.........
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:23)
#544
sheesh (sorry?)
why are you apologizing to me?
you're the one you're so rough on...
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:26)
#545
you're right....when I look at myself, I see somebody different than what I think
other people see, am not always pounding myself, most of the time feel pretty confident about myself (warts and all). I don't know why I went there.
~KitchenManager
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:28)
#546
trying to hit 600 without me?
wish I wasn't at work so I could get in on this one...
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:29)
#547
i think flaws are what define real beauty,
anyway... weaver had a little gap between
her front teeth (and it drove me absolutely
out of my mind)...
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:29)
#548
not missing much, wer.
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:30)
#549
y'all busy, wer?
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:31)
#550
that's absolutely true, Nick. to me, real beauty is the whole, inside, outside,
mannerisms, quirks, everything.......
~KitchenManager
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:32)
#551
nick, nope...
Amen, sister on 550
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:34)
#552
give you a prime example (and nearly the
beginning of a barroom brawl a few months
ago)... "the truth about cats and dogs"...
cannot- CANNOT- understand how a guy could
go for uma over janine... i think janine
garafolo is very VERY...
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:35)
#553
then why do we still give ourselves such a hard time? i mean, i know what
beauty is, but still give in to those moments of self-loathing......
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:37)
#554
if yer downtown, wer, i guess sundays would normally
be pretty slow (correct?)...
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:37)
#555
nick, i agree with that completely. (can you guess who i identified the most with?) besides, uma was a ditz in that one
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:38)
#556
oh, and the guy....wow. his eyes, his voice...........
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:40)
#557
and that line "you're dumb and beautiful, and you're smart and.........."
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:40)
#558
i've always assumed it was because
you were conditioned that way (from
childhood... parents, schools, social
org.s, and media, of course, in every
form...)
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:43)
#559
Nick, that's true, I mean, look at the barbies.....and I'm trying to bring up my
children with positive self-images. it doesn't help when everybody tells them
(esp. her) how absolutely gorgeous they are.
don't assume that I'm wallowing in self-pity all the time, not so. only times I get
hard about my looks is when out shopping for clothes. but hey, I can fix my flaws
and I don't mean by the knife......
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:45)
#560
opposite example... pamela anderson...
i don't get it... she's like a blonde
stump with breasts...
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:45)
#561
don't think that I would want to change anything I was born with...no, I wouldn't.
because this is just packaging, and if a person can't take the time to get over
the wrapping material and find out what's inside, forget them, don't need 'em...
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:47)
#562
thank you, Nick....and she knows it too......wonder who's idea it is for her to
show off as much as she does.........
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:52)
#563
what do you mean "get over" the wrapping
material? that's what i mean- who decides
this? why do you cede them the privelege
of deciding?
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:52)
#564
privilege, i mean...
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:54)
#565
that's what I'm saying. if someone judges just by what the wrapper looks like,
and you'll know this, then forget them. am not saying i put myself out for them to
decide anything. i decide, in the end.
~Wolf
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:54)
#566
gotta go.........
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:56)
#567
allright then...
(hafta go, unfotunately)...
~pmnh
Sun, Jan 4, 1998 (17:57)
#568
wow, that was weird...
seeya later...
~terry
Mon, Jan 5, 1998 (10:32)
#569
http://www.mediadesign.net/live.ram
playing Elvis Jailhouse Rock. It's the San Marcos pirate radio station.
~Afor
Mon, Jan 5, 1998 (18:43)
#570
Keep It Coming Love - K.C. & The Sunshine Band
Finally the conversation gets less weird & more interesting!
This reminds me of Freud's question: "What does woman want?"
There is a universal stereotype of what men find attractive in women (Western men, at least) but if there is a similar stereotype in the reverse, I don't know what it is (except that it ain't me!)
~pmnh
Mon, Jan 5, 1998 (19:47)
#571
sam, you're gonna get us all in trouble
bringing freud into the "what do women want"
question...
(his opinions on this matter are not entirely
90's-friendly...)
~terry
Mon, Jan 5, 1998 (20:00)
#572
A Letter to Australia, a folk song playing on KIND, San Marcos.
KIND is the official spring radio station on the net.
~Wolf
Mon, Jan 5, 1998 (21:09)
#573
we don't want to hear anything by Freud, unless he slips *grin*
~terry
Mon, Jan 5, 1998 (22:01)
#574
A lady showed up at Leighton's party in a slip.
In big red letters it was marked "Freud".
She made a mean marguerita and smoked a cigar.
~Wolf
Mon, Jan 5, 1998 (22:15)
#575
Oh, I love it!! Wish I had enough to nerve to do that, maybe Halloween!
~Wolf
Mon, Jan 5, 1998 (22:44)
#576
ok guys, can ya make it to 600? sorry, but you'll have to do it without me
*frown*.....am beat (you know 1st day back at work and class, whew!)
(BTW, am gonna work out so I can get into that freudian slip *wink*)
~pmnh
Mon, Jan 5, 1998 (22:46)
#577
believe me, ms. beau...
you don't wanna smoke that cigar
(then again...)
~terry
Mon, Jan 5, 1998 (22:46)
#578
Leighton's party was on Halloween. Maybe I'll play the
Leighton's Halloween party tape tonight on the main page slide show.
~KitchenManager
Tue, Jan 6, 1998 (00:16)
#579
you get to where you want, Wolf,
and I'll pay for the slip...
(I just need to know what kind
of return I'm gonna get on my investment...)
(now, I need a cigarette!!!!!)
~Wolf
Tue, Jan 6, 1998 (12:57)
#580
where's that cigar and what brand, Nick?
~Afor
Tue, Jan 6, 1998 (18:35)
#581
Are You Experienced?
~Afor
Tue, Jan 6, 1998 (18:36)
#582
(by the Jimi Hendrix Experience, of course...)
~Wolf
Tue, Jan 6, 1998 (21:05)
#583
OK wer, I went to the gym and did stairs for 30 mins. (whew)
~Wolf
Tue, Jan 6, 1998 (23:20)
#584
So are we gonna break 600 tonight?
(or is everybody as tired as me?)
(oh, and wer, can ya find a slip kinda ladylike? I mean, don't wanna flaunt,
halfta have a bit of mystery *heehee*)
~KitchenManager
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (00:06)
#585
you got it, those are the best kind
*sigh*
what color(s) you prefer?
(and, at some point, you're
gonna hafta trust me with
your size and/or measurements...)
~Wolf
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (13:07)
#586
can't have that til I'm where I want to be. Any warm colors will do........*grin*
~KitchenManager
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (14:07)
#587
fair enough,
I have something in mind now
if I can just find it when the
time is right...
~Afor
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (18:29)
#588
Rainy Day Women # 12 & 35 by Bob Dylan
~Wolf
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (21:16)
#589
10,000 Maniacs (MTV Unplugged)
(wer, got my Vicky's secret catalog today, *heehee*. should I go for it, Nick?-the
slip, I mean *wink*)
~Wolf
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (23:18)
#590
C'mon, only got 11 more to go.
(Where is everybody?)
Maybe y'all can enlighten me...who is Hugh Jackman, apparantly some
Australian god (according to the firthers)
~Wolf
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (23:20)
#591
10 more to go........
(guess if ya want somethin' done, gotta DITY)
Why do famous people die in threes?
~Wolf
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (23:21)
#592
Versace, Diana, M. Theresa
~Wolf
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (23:23)
#593
The guy from SNL, Kennedy, Bono
(i'll get his name in a sec)
~Wolf
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (23:31)
#594
man, his name is on the tip of my tongue. Hope it doesn't wake me up at 3 in
the morning.
~Wolf
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (23:34)
#595
Chris Farley *whew*, knew it started with an F.....
~Wolf
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (23:34)
#596
Wasn't it Raul Julia, John Candy, and ???
~Wolf
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (23:36)
#597
(hate talking to myself *frown*)
wait, we might be in for more bad news-cuz John Denver went too.....
~Wolf
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (23:37)
#598
Denver, Farley, Kennedy
Bono, ?, ?
~Wolf
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (23:38)
#599
we don't count celebrities in their old age, do we? just the untimely, right?
~Wolf
Wed, Jan 7, 1998 (23:39)
#600
600!!! *bowing* Thank you, thank you......