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How's your web day going today?

Topic 22 · 117 responses · archived october 2000
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~terry seed
What kind of day are you having on the web? Are you surfing for fun? Are you working on the web? Are things coming up ok?
~CotC #1
*** Do Marquees work on here?abner@bga.com *** '
~CotC #2
*** Do Marquees work on here?abner@bga.com ***
~terry #3
They do unless we exclude them. I can't see it because I'm telnetting. Us telnetters rule, don't we Stacey?
~CotC #4
This is probably a stupid question, but what's the telnet address?
~terry #5
www.spring.com But you need to email me for an account.
~KitchenManager #6
now that that's all been taken care of... my web day today is okay
~aschuth #7
This baby loads bad today, plus the "Connection to the Spring"-topic is frozen, so I can't whine in anguish there. I submit posts, but they don't work. So I have to submit again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again
~aschuth #8
and again and again and again and again and again and again until ages later, it registers. It would make me cranky, if I weren't just ever so nice today...
~KitchenManager #9
that topic is frozen? in porch? hmmm...I wanted to, but hadn't done it yet...
~wolf #10
alright, who's mindspring and why do they have my url????? i know i didn't register it, but i'd like to know who did and where those guys got my handle? check it out: http://www.midnightwolf.com
~wolf #11
ok, well, i went through namesecure.com (which gets approval through internic) for http://www.midnightwolf.net so there! paul, namesecure will provide my dsn address. now what?
~ratthing #12
now that it is registerd with internic, wolfie, we just need to set the servers up here to host it. let me know when all the paperwork gets processed.
~terry #13
She needs to register it with our servers though if she's going to have it hosted here, which she's welcome to do of course. So she would have to fill this form in and send it to hostmaster@internic.net. Copy and paste this into an email and change the appropriate fields, wolfie. Q. This is Domain Name Registration Agreement Version Number 4.0. This Registration Agreement is only for registrations under top-level domains: COM, ORG, NET, and EDU. By completing and submitting this Registration Agreement for consideration and acceptance by NSI, the Registrant agrees that he/she has read and agrees to be bound by A through P above. Authorization 0a. (N)ew (M)odify (D)elete....: N 0b. Auth Scheme................: 0c. Auth Info..................: 1. Comments...................: 2. Complete Domain Name.......: nightwolf.net Organization Using Domain Name 3a. Organization Name..........: 3b. Street Address.............: 3c. City.......................: 3d. State......................: 3e. Postal Code................: 3f. Country....................: Administrative Contact 4a. NIC Handle (if known)......: PW30 4b. (I)ndividual (R)ole........: 4c. Name (Last, First).........: 4d. Organization Name..........: 4e. Street Address.............: 4f. City.......................: 4g. State......................: 4h. Postal Code................: 4i. Country....................: 4j. Phone Number...............: 4k. Fax Number.................: 4l. E-Mailbox..................: Technical Contact 5a. NIC Handle (if known)......: PW30 5b. (I)ndividual (R)ole........: 5c. Name (Last, First).........: 5d. Organization Name..........: 5e. Street Address.............: 5f. City.......................: 5g. State......................: 5h. Postal Code................: 5i. Country....................: 5j. Phone Number...............: 5k. Fax Number.................: 5l. E-Mailbox..................: Billing Contact 6a. NIC Handle (if known)......: PW30 6b. (I)ndividual (R)ole........: 6c. Name (Last, First).........: 6d. Organization Name..........: 6e. Street Address.............: 6f. City.......................: 6g. State......................: 6h. Postal Code................: 6i. Country....................: 6j. Phone Number...............: 6k. Fax Number.................: 6l. E-Mailbox..................: Prime Name Server 7a. Primary Server Hostname....: ns1.spring.net 7b. Primary Server Netaddress..: 207.97.234.70 Secondary Name Server(s) 8a. Secondary Server Hostname..: ns2.spring.net 8b. Secondary Server Netaddress: 207.97.234.71 END OF AGREEMENT
~wolf #14
ok, but i have to wait for the approval process to finish up. i was really taken aback because where in the heck did they get my name? i mean, i know it's not copyrighted or anything, but it's MY handle!! haha, i was so upset that i had to register the .net so they couldn't have the name monopolized. if they want it really bad, they'll have to enter negotiations! it's already about $120 with namesecure and internic, what other costs do i need to project for? (and thanks for the help, guys)
~wolf #15
ok, well, it's registered and stuff. but it will take a day for it to be entered into the internet root servers (whatever that means). so, to see it (sortof) you can go to: http://205.229.232.41 whatever that means too!! i've made changes so that my domain will show up in the address box of the browser. but now i don't know what to do! and i'm so excited!! i actually have cyber-property, woohoo!!
~aschuth #16
Wolf, my heroine!
~wolf #17
why thank you alex!
~aschuth #18
My pleasure!
~wolf #19
my husband found out the dollar figures last night and guess what? he didn't flip!! woohoo!! he thinks it's pretty cool.....
~aschuth #20
Want to follow your shining and inspiring example, just don't have time to take care of it. I'd love to find a cheap place that offers Lotus Domino webhosting, so I could have some neat webtools and applications... Plus a person who'd help me on that project. Can't do that and keep the mag running simultaneously. Plus: It ain't over when you get the first hits. You gotta keep updating content to stay interesting, and it's quite enough to survive the next issue...
~wolf #21
yeah, it's a lot of work, but it'll be fun and an adventure. something i've never done before. i want to be able to show all the sides of the midnight wolf and keep it honest, simple, and hopeful, you know? just don't know where (when) to start. how do i ftp stuff over there? would the ftp directory be ftp.midnightwolf.net ?? i have mail forwarding turned on so if people try to email me that address it'll go to a specified mailbox. clueless in louisiana. but beware, eventually my web pages will be on my new acreage!
~wolf #22
oh, alex, you could put your magazine on-line (bits and pieces of it). i know many that do. you've probably thought of it. don't know anything about lotus except that it's a computer language thing. sorry i can't help you out.
~aschuth #23
I'd guess ftp.midnightwolf.net/ , but this I'm not sure. No Idea in Frankfurt. The Wolfe Hath New Grounds To Prowl and Howl!
~wolf #24
owuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh!!
~aschuth #25
(Shshsh! You'll wake the husband, and what will happen then? http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/screwed/79.31 )
~aschuth #26
Lotus is a company, now owned by IBM. They were pioneers in developing spreadsheet-appilacations when they did Lotus 1-2-3. Lotus Notes is a groupware platform (servers, clients, developing tools) - also mail and workflow functions -, that has since its R4.5 added Web-functionalities. The new R5.0 is quite hot and webable, from what they say, and I'd love to work a WWW-site with that. There's many ideas on what to do with it, like e.g. a database of reviewed records (searchable for artists, release date, labels, etc.), or a database with concerts + events. We could have tools that optimized editors working (by giving our writers access to certain applications via the web, etc.)
~terry #27
You spent $120 on something that would have cost you $70 if youda let wer, ray or me help you with it, wolfie! All ya gotta do is fill in the form above and send it to Internic and they bill you later. It shouldn't cost you anything up front. In fact, a lot of folks hold on to names for 60 to 90 days before they pay for them and some folks don't even pay, they just reapply for the name again.
~wolf #28
oh well, i was in a mood! i appreciate your support. tell me what i should do now? (no, the internic will only cost 70 and i haven't paid that yet. the 45 was from namesecure and that was for doing the legwork and setting up dns and stuff). it's no biggie, but if i decide to register something else, i'll definately send it your way!
~terry #29
Yep, cause we won't charge our wolfie nuffin'
~KitchenManager #30
well, except for maybe the promise of a good time if we're ever in the swamp...
~wolf #31
i gare-un-tee! ok, guys, right now my url is going to some isp number (http://###.###.###). which means that the actual domain isn't rooted yet? i tried to update the message about being under construction using microsoft front page express and i couldn't figure out where to put it (ftp, etc.). is this the hurry up and wait part?
~KitchenManager #32
could be... where's Stacey when you need to ask a FrontPage question?!? my web day is going so-so
~wolf #33
mine is lowsy since i can't do anything yet. need to find some good but cheap graphics software. really liked netstudio but it's 130 buckaroos!
~KitchenManager #34
what are you using now? I use the demo version of PaintShopPro...
~wolf #35
i tried that but couldn't figure it out (besides, i'm over my limit on that too)
~KitchenManager #36
I've used it up to like day 700 hundred or so...
~wolf #37
yeah, i think i'm on 180 *grin*
~wolf #38
ok, my domain update...internic has been paid in full. still waiting word on when i can use my site :(
~KitchenManager #39
*crossing fingers*
~aschuth #40
* Crossing fingers, too *
~aschuth #41
(Autsch, bad thing: Wer, if I cross my fingers, too, and you cross them - do we then DOUBLE-CROSS? So ein Mist!)
~wolf #42
no, the more crossed fingers, the better!
~KitchenManager #43
at least in this instance...
~aschuth #44
- will comply. -
~wolf #45
ok, these people are ticking me off...i've paid for my site, but still can't use it. they said they'd e me when it was ready. i don't get it. my husband gleefully said i got ripped off.
~KitchenManager #46
*sad face*
~aschuth #47
It's an acute case of major bureaucracy, I guess. Securing the name I own took a while, too...
~wolf #48
ok, thanks for the reassurance *hug*
~aschuth #49
And don't forget to push that fella in, next time you come by a bayou with a GATOR From Hell in it... "And that's for gleefully saying...!"
~wolf #50
ok, tech support at name secure says my site is up and running. if that's so, how come i can't do anything to change it? ftp doesn't work, i don't know how to access my files or anything. HELP!!!
~ratthing #51
wolfie, did you get a username and password?
~wolf #52
i got a password but have no idea what my username is. lemme go check!
~wolf #53
when i go into the customer service update center, they use my domain as my user name. i've tried all sorts of combo's to do ftp and nothing works. these people aren't very user friendly (the techee's).
~aschuth #54
Techies never are. That's why they're techies.
~wolf #55
so i emailed them back specifically telling them the trouble i'm having. they'll probably reply with some snotty answer. terry: how do i change over to the spring's servers? (if'n i'm still welcomed to do that)
~terry #56
Just get the information to me, wer and ratthing and we'll set it up for you. You'll need to use the registration form that I posted before and list our nameservers.
~wolf #57
OK, printed that out agreement out. what are the nameservers? and the administrative contact and technical contact would be? and what kind of info do you need from me? oh, name secure wrote back and said they weren't a hosting server. well, no kidding, i thought getting my own domain meant i was my own host. i thought it meant that i create my own stuff and ftp it over. i still think these people don't get what i'm saying!
~aschuth #58
They say they don't offer any space for websites. Do they only register names, and leave it to you to put your stuff up somewhere else? Sounds like they don't do webhosting (=letting you put your stuff on their machine), only registrations.
~wolf #59
yes, exactly. but i didn't go there for webhosting, if i wanted to do that, i'd stay with geocities. i wanted my own domain. i thought all i had to do was ftp my stuff to my domain under directory or something
~KitchenManager #60
maybe you're confusing being a host on here to having your site "hosted"...when they said that they aren't a hosting server, that means that they offer no space outside what is needed to actually register the name and have a simple page up so that your site is "active" in case someone else wants the name that you registered, this way you've got dibs but not a working site...if you ever want to use your domain you'll have to move it on here somewhere or pay somebody else even more money to host your site...hope I made some sense for you, Wolfsie...
~wolf #61
terry: the application to internic has been completed and emailed to them. now what? what kind of info do you need from me?
~terry #62
Your measurements, your heartrate, a cat scan, just kidding. That's about it. William or ratthing (I hope) can help set it up. Do you want it front page enabled? You'll need to give them a username and password so they can set you up as administrator. Will you want any others to have authoring access besides you?
~wolf #63
it's official, www.midnightwolf.net is now affiliated with spring.net (thanks for the space man!) oh, am i supposed to email name secure and tell them their services are no longer needed?
~terry #64
I enjoyed the 2 hours Front Page 2000 class that Mcirosoft gave lastnight at the Marriott. Too bad FP2000 won't run with Win 2000.
~wolf #65
i've got front page express, will it work? go ahead and enable the front page deal, i guess. and for now, just use my spring hosting powers as my user id and password (you may have to email them to me, though).....thanks so much for your help (and patience) *hugsssss*
~stacey #66
woo woo Wolfie!
~wolf #67
uh....guys? is my site loaded against the spring yet? i went ahead and created a directory in my spring hosting area but i don't know where to send files for my webpage....and i remember my user id and stuff....
~KitchenManager #68
your only name and password I remember, Wolf, are the ones for bayou...
~wolf #69
oh, do i need to make new ones? i'll email them to you!
~wolf #70
done!
~KitchenManager #71
I'll check it when I get home...you could have just e-mailed me the ones you was talking about, too...
~wolf #72
oh, well, i made up new ones *grin*
~KitchenManager #73
you've still got time to change your mind...
~wolf #74
nope, new ones for the webpage, old ones for my hosting duties....
~wolf #75
wer, i sent the info to your spring address....
~KitchenManager #76
I got it...sorry, been tied up this week so far... if I can find the stuff, hopefully all will be set up by end of business on Tuesday...
~wolf #77
no hurry, don't mean to bug you....
~KitchenManager #78
as I don't mean to let you down...*grin*
~wolf #79
ok, mr wer, where's the goods? *grin*
~wolf #80
wer?
~KitchenManager #81
I'm still trying to decipher the instructions... fortunately, Ray e-mailed me so it's looking up!
~wolf #82
i didn't know it was that difficult! *grin*
~KitchenManager #83
I'll e-mail you the instructions just so as you can see...*grin*
~wolf #84
*gulp* that was awful, wer, i had no idea *big fat wolfie hugs* i didn't understand half of it! where are the instructions to help you with the instructions?
~KitchenManager #85
Ray has been very busy...
~wolf #86
i hope the site will be easier to update than all that stuff!
~KitchenManager #87
'twill...
~terry #88
List of domains to set up (thanks Ray!) atlantea.com bioregion.com cooltoys.net estatesales.org workontheweb.com silkcloth.com silkclothing.com worldhunger.com love30.com burnetroad.com energywork.com saveseed.com mustardbath.com realtybabes.com artcentaur.com newsbabes.net
~ratthing #89
eeek! i've been so damn busy lately! terry, bioregion.com is already set up. i'll get to the others this weekend!
~wolf #90
*tapping paw, expectantly, tail wagging, wolf pup eyes*
~KitchenManager #91
I know!!!!!
~wolf #92
*grin*
~aschuth #93
Hey boys, where's da doggie treatz?
~KitchenManager #94
know, which way should I answer this?
~wolf #95
i had this horrible nightmare last night that someone stole my domain out from under me and hard at work putting stuff on it!
~aschuth #96
Wer, give her a treat! The poor creature!
~KitchenManager #97
okay, Wolf, first step done...you have an account on access now (you do, too, Alexander)...now if I can just guess as well on the rest as I did with Alexander's hard drive troubles...
~wolf #98
in english please (or wolfese, if you don't mind) *smooch*
~KitchenManager #99
you can put stuff up on access.spring.net under mswolf68 just like you can on www.spring.net under bayou...it's one of the things I needed to do to get your domain set-up...(oh, and your uid is 1068 in case you were wondering...)now if I can just learn enough of the bash shell to set up the rest for you...
~terry #100
Go, wer. And do you have the current set of instructions?
~KitchenManager #101
current? not sure...I figured the ones I have I just needed to sub .net for .com...are there newer ones than that? and I finally figured out how to do a public last so many responses... you pipe the tail -nr /usr/bbs/resplog/ into sed s/restricted/public/g so I'll get those pages set up for you soon...now, back to studying so as I can help Wolf...
~KitchenManager #102
well, for some reason I think 206.97.234.rev is possibly the wrong file to learn vi on....the directory for midnightwolf.net is set up on access now, too, Wolf...hopefully, I haven't messed anything up yet...
~wolf #103
i really wouldn't know, wer *hugs*
~wolf #104
wer, how do i access access? is it the same as ftp? (thanks for your help *hugz*)
~KitchenManager #105
yep...just ftp to access.spring.net instead of www.spring.net
~wolf #106
okee dokee!
~KitchenManager #107
It is going great...there are new people posting, and several conferences are at least partially active again!!!
~MarciaH #108
It is even better than that. I now have 14 topics!
~MarciaH #109
Actually it has been an incredible week. I went from trying to avoid being a host for fear I would mess up a topic to being World Builder with my own Conference. I am one happy little camper!
~terry #110
Yep Barry's here, somewhat bruised and beaten up from some other places he's been, and he's exceptionally well traveled in this world of virtual communities. And prolific. And I have a feeling Barry has friends . . . And Caryn's here. With her grand ideas and plans! I hope she realizes them all. I just got her out of topic creation madness and she's happily posting responses in the topics she's created in books and music. So, let the good times roll. The Pledges were awesome today, over $100!
~MarciaH #111
(Patting virtually everyone on the back...)Congratulations, Terry, Dear! It The place to be. I am overjoyed that I have a large consensus on that opinion. Postings and money, too? It does not get any better than that!
~wolf #112
hey, wer, is my domain ready yet? (i haven't had time to mess with access yet, still reworking my site with netfusion)
~KitchenManager #113
almost...
~wolf #114
thanks sweetie *hugs*
~wolf #115
ok, now it's september, any word on my shell? (or whatever the hell that thing is called?)
~wolf #116
terry: can you email my password for access? thanks in advance!
~terry #117
Just email me what you want it to be and I'll set it that, and include your forwarding address (email) in that too.
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