~Saman
Wed, Dec 4, 1996 (17:39)
seed
In the book (and in P&P2) Lady Catherine, when confronting Lizzie, claims that she is almost Darcy's nearest relation. Which is supposedly because Georgiana is his sister.
Now we know that Anne de Bourgh and Darcy are cousins because their mothers were sisters. Col. Fitzwilliam and Darcy are also cousins, and are related through Mrs Darcy, but was she the sister of the Colonel's mother or father? Col. Fitzwilliam's father, as far as we know, is still alive, and if he is Lady C and Mrs Darcy's brother then wouldn't he have exhibited at least a little of the concern for Darcy that Lady Catherine does? Especially because his son was so close to Darcy. It seems likely, does
't it that the Earl of wherever (did Mr Collins refer to him as the Earl of Matlock during his "make haste" rant?) would step in as a substitute for his nephew's "excellent father" ?
yet another sign of my addiction - this thought woke me up last night at 2 am :)
~Anna
Wed, Dec 4, 1996 (19:32)
#1
Mrs Darcy, but was she the sister of the Colonel's mother or father?
Lady Catherine de Bourgh and Lady Anne Darcy are both sisters of the Earl of ____/Matlock
wouldn't he [the Earl] have exhibited at least a little of the concern for Darcy that Lady Catherine does?
Since Fitzwilliam is referred to as the son not the brother of the Earl it does seem likely that the Fitzwilliam's father is still alive. Maybe he's not trying to marry his daughter to Darcy - to me Lady C goes far beyond what what would be allowable as concern, to outright interference.
~churchh
Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (18:56)
#2
Don't you remember the handy chart I posted to Amy's site? (Old Earl of ----,
surnamed Fitzwilliam)
|
+------------+----+----------------+
| | |
(Old Mr. === (Lady current Lady === (Sir Lewis
Darcy) | Anne) Earl of ---- Catherine | de Bourgh)
| | |
+------+------+ +---+------+ |
| | | | |
Fitzwilliam Georgiana elder Colonel Anne de
Darcy Darcy son(s) Fitzwilliam Bourgh
~churchh
Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (18:58)
#3
Hmm... hope you can figure the chart out.
Anyway, the Jane Austen very carefully does NOT reveal the name of the Earl's title...
~Anna
Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (19:59)
#4
HC ] Jane Austen very carefully does NOT reveal the name of the Earl's title...
but surely it was not an unreasonable choice for P&P2; Matlock is of a suitable size, and near Pemberly; maybe Lady Anne and Darcy senior met locally rather than at the London season
~churchh
Thu, Dec 5, 1996 (21:46)
#5
P.S. Forgot to say that other genealogical charts of the characters are available at my site...
~JohanneD
Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (13:32)
#6
Matlock... Fitzwilliam's brother = the grand-father to the Earl of Matlock in the Secret Garden??? (just for fun, but correct me if I'm wrong...)
~jwinsor
Fri, Dec 6, 1996 (20:26)
#7
What an intriguing stretch of geneology! Almost makes one want to play the "degrees of" game from novel to novel as well as from film to film. ;-)