Kevin Costner

Okay Kev Costner, my favs 1. Dances With Wolves 2. Field of Dreams 3. No Way Out 4. Bull Durham 5. Robin Hood 6. The Big Chill(I know he wasn't in it, but he was the corpse)

The corspe? I did not know that.

Yeah, I saw on Entertainment Tonight eons ago when Dixie Whatley and some other guy, can't remember his name, that he was the corpse, they did have a shot of him in the casket, but thought the allure of it all was that here they are talking about a guy who hung himself and to not show him.

It was a powerful way to open a movie. And the song fit perfectly with the action of the friends learning of the suicide. No words!

Sorry he sliced his wrists. Not hung himself. My mistake

This week's Paris Match has a reader's poll of sexiest movie stars. Cotters romped in in first place, Paul Newman second, Harrison Ford fifth and Tom Crise and Mel Gibson also in the top five. What does that tell ya? Can't be the voices or the accent this time!

...appeals to all women as a perfect husband ... I don't think so - my perfect husband is going to stick around!

...appeals to all women as a perfect husband ... I don't think so..didn't he just go through a rather nasty divorce?

cheryl, I thought you were responding to me - LOL, no, My perfect husband (aka DH) has not been through anything of the sort!

Gee girls, I didn't mean to start a pissing contest here, you know what I mean? Your husbands are the best, "wow", I'm sure they get standing ovations all the time from you. Kevin has just returned from one whole year vacation with his beloved wife and family, after filming Waterworld and talked about his new movie, "Tin Cup" Soooo, for all us single women who want a Costner type, let's hear it girls. We love Kevin......I love Kevin.......We love Kevin.......I love Kevin

I agree, Kevin is absolutely a good drool topic. Probably my favorite movie of all time is Field of Dreams, and I found Tin Cup charming (having accompanied my parents on golfing expeditions for my entire childhood). But, Beverly, I'm not so sure your facts are right. Mrs. Costner got a hefty divorce settlement from him. And he was supposedly fooling around the whole time during the filming of Waterworld. The adultery thing has really lessened him in my eyes, as it would any person, male or female. S as to the perfect husband angle, I am also a no vote! My DH may not look like Kev, but he'll always be there for me.

I in no way meant to imply that my DH, or anyone's for that matter, was ideal! He does intend to stick around through all my neuroses, however, and have a wonderful life in the mean time, in spite of it all. THAT I think is essential in any definition of the ideal mate.

I'll stick with Jean Tripplehorn (Waterworld).

Re: faithfulness - How many of you ladies would stay faithful to your mates given the chance to run away with Kevin, or Colin Firth, or Ralph Fiennes, or Tom Cruise, or Alan Rickman, or Mel Gibson, etc., etc., etc.??? Just some food for thought - mere mortals that we are......

Kind of like the scenario in the movie with Woody Harrelson, Demi Moore and Robert Redford? What was that called? You know, the one where Demi Moore had an offer of a million bucks to leave Woody and go with Redford.

There's a cute fairy tale on the FOF site about a woman who accidentally meets CF, and she says something like, "I was frantically trying to remember if there was a loophole in my marriage vows ... surely there must be a reprieve if you are knocked down by CF, especially when he's wet!" It was really great and had me LOL.

maybe we would or maybe we wouldn't, but NOONE calls me the ideal mate (well, not except Don) ;)

Re: faithfulness - How many of you ladies would stay faithful to your mates given the chance.... I prefer not to think that seriously about faithfulness while frolicking in firthian fantasies which may or may not feature footwear! ;-)

]Re: faithfulness - How many of you ladies would stay faithful to your mates given the chance.... It all depends on our definition of faithfulness and Should We or Not Should We, that is the question :)

Linda, I cannot answer your fidelity qeustion because I have lost my checkstub, and am unable to think in real terms in this conference. Why does this not bother me more?

LOL, Mari!! First one of the day, but hopefully not the last...

Okay ladies--I've decided that this topic has remained dormant far too long. Time to dust off the lovely Mr. Costner and have a go at him. I've had a horrible crush on him for years so it's only fair that I should start the drooling. The first time I saw him was in a movie called Fandango -- and he looked about 18 years old. And you know what? I like him better now. Aside from the obvious boyish good looks I find his Jimmy Stewart "aw shucks" kind of humility completely endearing. Very boy next door with an underlying naughty streak, hence the appeal of Bull Durham. Although that movie has a lot of things to recommend it. :-p I saw above that someone mentioned he was the corpse in The Big Chill. I read somewhere that they had shot all kinds of scenes with Kevin playing Alex. These scenes were to be shown in flashback throughout the film. In the end, the director decided not to go in that direction. Maybe he was right, but oh what I'd give to get my hands on all that stuff that was left on the cutting room floor. Come on ladies...talk to me!;-)

Sorry, Nan. I just found this page, or I would have talked to you sooner! :) I take a lot of heat from my friends over my C-O-S-T-N-E-R license plates, my poster-covered walls (only Kevin's movies), my web page, and his two biographies on my bookshelf. I just smile sweetly at them, aware that they would love him too if they had any sense. :) I urge Kevin's fans to grab the December issue of GEORGE magazine. He's on the cover. :) Best article I ever read about Kevin. It says all the things I wish I was articulate enough to say to my friends when I'm feeling defensive. Cannot WAIT until December 25!

Charlotte, let your friends laugh all they want...but you and I can still just stare at this...;-)....

omigod! That is gorgeous! May I put it on my Web page, Nan? my oh my oh my oh my gives new definition to the word 'drool', don't it?

omigod! That is gorgeous! Doesn't he make you just ache all over? *GROAN* May I put it on my Web page, Nan? Of course m'dear...my pictures are your pictures. I have another one at home that I must scan for you...you're gonna love it. BTW, that's from the October 97 Premiere Magazine. And missy, WHAT webpage? I must have the URL...

Ok, but don't expect too much. I'm trying to simplify my life. :) http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/4772

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/4772 Oooh, Charlotte...you and I are gonna get along very well indeed ;-D I really love that "No Way Out" photo with the dogtags and the hairy chest. I'm feeling quite warm and fuzzy at present ;-)

You know...that is my least favorite photo. (I would post it here if I knew how!) He seems so miserable. As if he is saying "this isn't me. why must i pose like this?" It's as if his agent or the studio or somebody said "this is what women want to see, so you'll do it". My two favorites are the one from the Postman and the smiling one from Tin Cup.

OOps. Correction. The one Nan gave me is now my favorite. :)

You know...that is my least favorite photo. (I would post it here if I knew how!) He seems so miserable. LOL! Yes, I could tell by the name of the photo, that you didn't love it :-) However, I must admit to being one of those women who wants to see it. I'm a bad girl ;-p So here a a few others to add to your collection. Very young Kevin, doin' the Fandango: The always lovely Field of Dreams: And that one I was telling you about yesterday, from the 3/7/91 issue of US Magazine where he is looking most studiously sexy: Whaddya think? ;-)

I think I love you, Nan.

LOL Charlotte! Now, if you could only say that in Kevin's voice, we'd have something here...;-D

Hi Charlotte and darling Nan!! Oh, my! It IS slippery in here!! ;-) I can't resist putting my two cents in...I'd have to say the Premiere photo is my favorite for obvious reasons (lemme just say I prefer him in jeans), but I'll take "the obligatory funless pose" Kevin any day - that photo says something else to me entirely, like "take me here, Marilyn"...LOL!!! Also, Charlotte, I always enjoy a good "Crash" photo - did he actually sign that "Crash and the Shelby" one for you?? I want details...;-) Oh, yes, the man can make me groan, ache, swoon - he can be wearing (or not wearing) that white uniform from NWO or the leather bomber and baggy pants from BD or that white t-shirt from TC or...well, you understand, and he does it for me every time. And, is there anything sexier than when he tells Sean Young in NWO "You're pretty impressed with me" - oh, okay, Crash's "I believe in..." mushes me up pretty good, too. ;-) Whew!!

Hi, Marilyn! I've added new photos to the gallery, ladies. Look for Elliott Ness, John Dunbar, and a color shot of The Mariner. I need one of those white uniform photos for the group!! Anybody got one? I, too, prefer him in jeans. Probably because I know that HE prefers him in jeans. :) Thus, (huge hugs to Nan!) the phot with the glasses, jeans and dog, is now my alltime, ALL TIME, favorite. The dog is lovely, but can't compete. Nice try, though.

Oh. I have the Crash Davis with Shelby photo in a frame on my desk. It is an authentic autograph, but no...he did not sign it for me. It's one of those you can purchase from some firm in L.A. It comes with a certificate of authentication. I got it from the AuctionWeb (ebay). I did not buy it for the autograph, though...I just wanted the photo. So it doesn't matter to me if it's authentic or not. The way I feel about autographs is this: if he isn't standing in front of me, using my pen, then it's worthless to me.

(Charlotte) I've added new photos to the gallery, ladies. Look for Elliott Ness, John Dunbar, and a color shot of The Mariner. Woman, you work a the speed of light! Oh, the Elliott Ness actually made me groan ;-p And I don't care what anyone says, I liked Waterworld ;-D I need one of those white uniform photos for the group!! Anybody got one? I don't have one, but if I come across anything I'll be sure to pass it on. I, too, prefer him in jeans. Probably because I know that HE prefers him in jeans. :) Thus, (huge hugs to Nan!) the phot with the glasses, jeans and dog, is now my alltime, ALL TIME, favorite. Clearly, I love that photo since I saved it for the last 6 years. And I thought I was being obsessive! LOL! I knew you'd get a kick out of it. FYI, the first photo I posted (the one from Premiere) was actually from an article that Marilyn sent me (via snail mail) and I just scanned it. So she really deserves the thanks, not me. BTW, Charlotte, do you have a scanner or do you want me to scan the cover of George for you? 'Cause I've got it ;-)

And you will want what in return...my first born child? I'm tempted, but she is 20 and might have a thing or two to say about such a deal. I do not have access to a scanner. I could buy one, but as earlier claimed...I am trying to simplify my life. It isn't the cover that appeals me, though, as much as the full page photo on page 2 of the article. With the cover, you get "GEORGE" and all that extra text. Could you scan the nonsmiling one for me? Is there anything I can offer you in lieu of my daughter or my framed Kevin photos?

And you will want what in return...my first born child? I'm tempted, but she is 20 and might have a thing or two to say about such a deal. Well, she's lovely but I'm afraid that with my new love of scanning, I have no time for children. Could you scan the nonsmiling one for me? Is there anything I can offer you in lieu of my daughter or my framed Kevin photos? Just come and drool and I'll be happy dear ;-) And even though you didn't ask for it, I couldn't help it. Besides, Marilyn would have been most put out had I not posted black-eyed Crash.

...drool... drool... where is that towel!! oh I hope he never goes online. this would be sooooo embarassing for him! :)

Damn, Nan, that's good! No kidding, Charlotte, I had to brace myself for that one - got a little weak-kneed and overly drooly - and I assure you it's not a pretty sight!! :-D Btw, although I like the forearms on that first one, the sad, black-eyed Crash is what I want right now!! Oh, to be Annie to his Crash...(sigh).

Sure. I'm biased. But fair is fair. How long is Colin Firth's face gonna stay on our top menu? Who must I sleep with to get Kevin's there?

Sure. I'm biased. But fair is fair. How long is Colin Firth's face gonna stay on our top menu? Who must I sleep with to get Kevin's there? Weeeell...I'm afraid that would be me, Charlotte. Aren't you sorry you asked that question? ;-p Now you know how I feel about Kevin, but the Colin boards are, by far, the most popular in this conference. Fortunately, my drooling is multi-faceted so I can pop around with ease. :-) Besides, I happen to be extremely fond of Mr. Firth (big understatement). Hence, his picture at the main page. ;-)

I was ribbin' ya, Amy. I like Colin, too. And (don't tell Kevin) I have been known to also lust after Alan Rickman and Ralph Fiennes. Couldn't we have more than one photo maybe? No biggie. Thanks to you and Nan and the Marilyn, my Kevin gallery has nearly doubled in a day! I am happier than happy.

Oops. S-O-R-R-Y! I said Amy. I meant, of course, the inimitable, brilliant, generous, gracious, and FORGIVING ..... NAN!

help! i am computer illiterate!!

am i the only one who is smitten with the most recent mr. rochester? do you know what it's like to be in love with a fictional character?

You're not so illiterate, eva! Ya done good except for posting lovenotes to Ciaran Hinds in Kevin Costner's drool pool. But hey...it's an honest mistake. They are both soooooo pretty!

Hi, I'm very new to this chat thing but could not resist your topic. I absolutely adore Kevin Costner. Your pics are great! I can watch his movies over and over. Dances is my personal fav. Can't wait for Christmas and The Postman.

Any KC droolers in the southern California area? Maybe we should get together 12/25 and see the opening of THE POSTMAN together! Welcome aboard, Sheila!

YOU'RE DOIN' FINE (Eva) help! i am computer illiterate!! Well you can't be as bad as you think Eva--you were able to post, right? :-) am i the only one who is smitten with the most recent mr. rochester? do you know what it's like to be in love with a fictional character? Indeed I do! Even if you're not a Colin Firth fan you can go over and visit the topics devoted to him. Most of us there noticed him when we fell in love with his perfect Mr. Darcy. Colin Firth There is also a Ciaran Hinds topic which you should visit. There are plenty of others there who would be happy to discuss the Rochester with you. Ciaran Hinds HI SHEILA (Sheila) Hi, I'm very new to this chat thing but could not resist your topic. I absolutely adore Kevin Costner. Your pics are great! I can watch his movies over and over. Dances is my personal fav. Can't wait for Christmas and The Postman. I'm a Bull Durham girl, myself ;-) Very glad you found us, Sheila--feel free to plunge on in. THE POSTMAN (Charlotte) Any KC droolers in the southern California area? Maybe we should get together 12/25 and see the opening of THE POSTMAN together! Oooh, I'm so jealous--no where near CA ;-( But I'm sure I can convince someone to sit through another Kevin movie...;-)

This drooler is from the north-Canada Thanks for the tip on the article in GEORGE magazine, I picked it up today. The magazine was burning a hole in the bag under my desk this afternoon.

Use asbestos bags. :) Cause it will continue to burn. I have read that article three times. I feel compelled to write to GEORGE and express my gratitude for such a positive perspective on Kevin, when so many are usually so quick to cut him down. And the photos are awesome, too!

Yoo-hoo, Chaaaaarlotte...look at the main page ;-)

@}--->---->-- A rose for the genius! You are AWESOME, Nan! Man oh man...like we needed any more drool in this place! :) And as Leelu would say: DANKOO!!!

THE POSTMAN (Charlotte) Any KC droolers in the southern California area? Maybe we should get together 12/25 and see the opening of THE POSTMAN together! (Nan)Oooh, I'm so jealous--no where near CA ;-( But I'm sure I can convince someone to sit through another Kevin movie...;-) Charlotte, I may be the someone Nan is referring to as she knows you can convince me quite easily to sit through The Postman with you. I live in Orange County - are you anywhere near me? Can you e-mail me? Welcome, Sheila - looks like I'll have to pick up that George issue. It's been a while since I've seen Dances - do you have a favorite scene you'd like to talk about?? For pure sex appeal, it's hard to beat his Crash - but No Way Out gets honorable mention because he made the earth move for me - I REALLY WANTED HIM BAD - and that happened right about the moment he appeared in that white uniform...then the limo scene nailed it for me - what an exhausting movie! ;-)

I think another honourable mention should go to REVENGE! He took my breath away. What can I say, he rings my bell !!! I sort of have the best of both worlds-I'm married to a Kevin and am totally besotted with "My other Kevin"

OH thank you, Sheila! I LOVE "Revenge"! It's the only film (so far) where Kevin's tongue is shown in a love scene. (blush) Plotwise, etc., there isn't much here, but acting wise, I rank this one right up there with PERFECT WORLD. When he sits on the steps at the end, with lifeless Madeleine in his arms...well, I cry every time. Just can't help it. But Cochran is Kevin's sexiest character, hands down.

(Charlotte) A rose for the genius! While being called a genius gives me a cheap thrill, you should really thank the person who made Photoshop so easy to use...you hit a couple of buttons and voila' you've got a twofer ;-) THE POSTMAN (Nan)Oooh, I'm so jealous--no where near CA ;-( But I'm sure I can convince someone to sit through another Kevin movie...;-) (Marilyn) Charlotte, I may be the someone Nan is referring to as she knows you can convince me quite easily to sit through The Postman with you. ActuallyI was thinking about having to talk one of my "real world" friends here into going with me. But now that you mention it, it's not a bad idea babe! ;-) THE TONGUE (Charlotte) I LOVE "Revenge"! It's the only film (so far) where Kevin's tongue is shown in a love scene. (blush) I only saw Revenge once, a few years ago. Looks like I'll have to rent that one and refresh myself. But I have to differ about the tongue...Bull Durham, bathtub, just before the candles get extinguished...;-D

You sure? I'm poppin' Bull Durham into the ole VCR tonight to make sure!

For some reason one of my favourite scenes from Revenge is on the beach with Madeline and the dog. He is just so drop dead gorgeous - those twinkling eyes and that boyish grin. Anybody got any info about his next project - I've heard some rumours about a film called For the Love of the Game, another baseball flick

ok, I have to confess, I'm a Bull Durham fan too. And the limo scene from NWO has to be one of the sexiest scenes in a movie, ever.

OK. I stand corrected. This morning (before breakfast!) I popped in Bull Durham and fast-forwarded to the candle/tub scene. And ohhhhhh... nothing like a little stimulation to get you going in the morning! Time to watch it all the way through again, methinks. "For the Love of the Game" will be directed by Sydney Pollack and will be released sometime next year. That's all I know right now.

Charlotte, I found your website. Great job! Did you get my email? Your daughter is beautiful and talented-I'm a Mom too, my daughter is only 6 years old. She likes THE WAR, WATERWORLD and DWW. I am bringing her up on KC-a fan in training! Have to edit some of her viewing for the time being-some of his movies are just too HOT! The bathtub/candle thing gets her mother all hot and bothered - ohhh Kevin (hubby) where are you?

Charlotte-what biographies are on your shelf? please tell!

my 2 biographies: Kevin Costner, by Todd Keith, publ. 1991 Kevin Costner: Prince of Hollywood, by Kelvin Caddies, Publ. 1994

Fellow droolers, did you know that there is CD available by Kevin's band, Roving Boy? The CD title is "The Simple Truth". The CD is an import, available from Japan. I ordered it from CDNow.com. Kevin insisted that it not be released in the US because his notoriety was too distracting for the band, and not fair to the other members. It kinda burns me that only a small handful of us know how truly generous Kevin is. The music is good, but a little too much on the country side for my tastes. Kevin's voice, is strong, but not remarkable. Still...I would not trade this CD for all the gold in Fort Knox. Well, maybe I exaggerate. For that much gold, I could afford to buy another, no? :) Oh, and yes, I got your email, Sheila! I'll reply backatcha later today.

Hi guys!! Found something that you might be interested in. Empire magazine has a website (www.erack.com). In one of the picks, you can get to movie sound files and TA-DA: Bull Durham awaits. So, when you want to hear Kev's "I believe" speech about kisses that last forever......it's there!!! FYI: Kev's sexiest scene has to be on the kitchen table in Bull Durham. No cryin' over spilt milk for me!!

I'll have to see if I can get a copy of the Roving Boy CD, I knew he had made the recording but I didn't think it was available in North America. Don't you get all quivery inside whenever you hear Whitney singing "I Will Always Love You". Tincup is a great soundtrack too! I really like the tunes Big Stick, Character Flaw and of course This Could Take All Night. I'd give him a Mulligan anyday- TEE IT UP!

AHA! I KNEW IT (Kate) ok, I have to confess, I'm a Bull Durham fan too. And the limo scene from NWO has to be one of the sexiest scenes in a movie, ever. Dearest Kate! How good to see you here. I had no idea you were even interested in Kevin. Delightful discovery ;-) THE TONGUE (Charlotte) OK. I stand corrected. This morning (before breakfast!) I popped in Bull Durham and fast-forwarded to the candle/tub scene. And ohhhhhh... nothing like a little stimulation to get you going in the morning! Time to watch it all the way through again, methinks. IMO, you can never watch that movie too many times. :-) This is why I like the bathtub scene so much...they actually look like their enjoying themselves ;-p I'M WITH THE BAND (Charlotte) Fellow droolers, did you know that there is CD available by Kevin's band, Roving Boy? The CD title is "The Simple Truth". The CD is an import, available from Japan. No idea! I've never heard of that before, nor did I even know that he was musically inclined. Does he just sing or does he play an instrument too? This is exciting! Learn something new every day... TALKIN' DIRTY (Karen) Found something that you might be interested in. Empire magazine has a website (www.erack.com). In one of the picks, you can get to movie sound files and TA-DA: Bull Durham awaits. So, when you want to hear Kev's "I believe" speech about kisses that last forever......it's there!!! Oh honey, thanks for the info--I promptly saved it and now Kevin talks dirty to me every time I shut off the computer! LOL! ;-)

I'm confused over a scene from Wyatt Earp. In the bathtub, just before the Sheriff halls him off for stealing the horse we get a great shirtless view. What's with the chest? Smooth as a baby's bottom! Every red blooded female fan knows Kev has a very MASCULINE chest. ???????????????????????????????????? Body double? Movie magic? Dedication to your craft? What's the story?

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow - it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas! ( 3 inches this AM) 33 days till the postal delivery-but who's counting? Anybody read David Brin's Postman?

No, what's that about?

Costner's new movie is based on David Brin's book The Postman. Check out http://thepostman.com There is a brief summary of the story and some great pics from the film.

Funny, there was a great foreign flick called the Postman (el postino).

There was some initial plan to change the title of Kevin's film, but it was felt that it would better honor David Brin to preserve his title. Besides that, the title is the essence of the plot. I cannot imagine a better title. In truth, the foreign film is titled "Il Postino", so there should be no confusion, but you know how we Americans like to Americanize everything. :) "The Postman" has long been one of my favorite novels. Post-apocalypse has always been my favorite SF genre, and this novel is a superb example. I have waited years for someone to film it, and when I heard that Kevin was doing it, I turned cartwheels.

Can you post a picture of that? (you turning cartwheels)

Kevin's daughter Annie has a part in the film - character's name is PONYTAIL. I read the book a couple of months ago, it was a little bizarre for me because I kept visualizing Kevin in the role of Gordon Krantz and at the same time associating with the Gordon Krantz I know (a real person)

Marilyn, I tried to send you email, but it bounced! The original message was received at Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:58:31 -0800 from esri [192.9.155.1] ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... Deferred: Connection timed out during initial connection with 38.242.99.72 Message could not be delivered for 2 days Message will be deleted from queue Can you email me your correct email address? Thanks! Charlotte

... That rare, indelible smile...

Ok. Now I know how to display links. Now I gotta learn to display graphics. :)

(Charlotte) That rare, indelible smile... Oooh, Charlotte! *sluuuuuuurp* That is one vicious picture! Knock me down and pinch me in the mornin� ;-D

Charlotte, dear-- I found a little Postman photo in a magazine. Here you go...

What do you want for Christmas, Nan? I make lovely doilies. Thank you for this. I subscribe to that magazine, and I saw this photo...but it was so tiny and I have no scanner. :) It's going into my web page collection today! 24 days and counting! Charlotte

Here's an older photo. Must be...look at all that hair! :)

Merciful heavens, Charlotte!! What are you trying to do? Kill me? ;-D *pant* *pant* :-)....

Tit for tat, I always say. :) That one was especially for Sheila. She and I are at war over who is most obsessed with Kevin...myself or herself. :) So Sheila...do you have seven huge posters covering the walls of your den? :) oooooohhhh, I am sooooo cruel! Charlotte

Ohhh!!!!! What a beautiful man! Charlotte honey, you've got to be cruel to be kind, and you just made my day! Do I see freckles? How totally charming? OK-I concede on posters. How about trivia? Did you know he has a thing for Hostess Twinkies!!

Twinkies?? I gotta send that man some of my wheat germ cookies. :) OK. I'll give you a point for trivia. How many of his movies do you own?

We all need our fibre, but wouldn't you like to be Kevin's twinkie? My video collection stands at 16, still need to find the oldies; Fandango, Stacy's Knights, The Gunrunner, Testament etc... How about you?

I have 26. The only ones I don't have (besides Postman and For the Love of the Game, of course) are Shadows Run Black, which I don't think is available on video, and the documentaries (500 Nations, Beyond JFK, Century of Cinema). I have Testament. It's a fabulous film, and is dear to me because it also contains another of my favorite stars: Philip Anglim. We may just have to declare it a draw, dontcha think? :)

The Kevin Costner Filmography as per Tig Productions only lists 24 titles. Shadows Run Black and Sizzle Beach USA are not acknowledged. What have I missed? Surfing-I found another project title "Message in a Bottle" and one of my newsletters reports Warner Bros purchased "Shank" for Tig Productions to develop for Kevin. I think I agree, we are just going to have to share the position of BIGGEST FAN!

This is the Filmography that I use. It's from the Internet Movie Database and can be accessed from my Web page. Here is the text version. "+" indicates a video I have yet to acquire. + 1. For the Love of the Game (1999) + 2. Postman, The (1997) .... Gordon Krantz 3. Tin Cup (1996) (C:GGN) .... Roy 'Tin Cup' McAvoy 4. Waterworld (1995) .... Mariner 5. "500 Nations" (1995) TV Series .... Host 6. Wyatt Earp (1994) .... Wyatt Earp + 7. Century of Cinema, A (1994) .... Himself 8. War, The (1994) .... Stephen 9. Perfect World, A (1993) .... Butch Haynes 10. Bodyguard, The (1992) .... Frank Farmer + 11. Beyond 'JFK': The Question of Conspiracy (1992) .... Interviewee + 12. John Barry - Moviola (1992) .... Himself 13. Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves (1991) .... Robin of Locksley 14. Madonna: Truth or Dare (1991) .... Himself 15. JFK (1991) (GGN) .... Jim Garrison 16. Revenge (1990) .... Cochran 17. Dances with Wolves (1990) (AAN) (GGN) .... Lieutenant Dunbar 18. Field of Dreams (1989) .... Ray Kinsella 19. Bull Durham (1988) .... Crash Davis 20. No Way Out (1987) .... Tom Farrell 21. Untouchables, The (1987) .... Eliot Ness + 22. Shadows Run Black (1986) 23. Silverado (1985) .... Jake 24. American Flyers (1985) .... Marcus 25. Fandango (1985) .... Gardner Barnes 26. Gunrunner, The (1984) .... Ted + 27. Table for Five (1983) .... Newlywed Husband 28. Testament (1983) .... Phil Pitkin 29. Chasing Dreams (1982) .... Ed 30. Frances (1982) 31. Night Shift (1982) .... Frat Boy #1 32. Stacy's Knights (1982) .... Will Bonner 33. Sizzle Beach, U.S.A. (1974) .... John Logan

Newsflash Charlotte! Just found on the upcoming guest list for David Letterman's Late Show Monday December 15, 1997 - KEVIN COSTNER

!!! Dec. 15 is my birthday!! Sheila, you are WONDERFUL! Thankyouthankyouthankyou!

Happy to be of service dear! Stayed tuned-he'll probably be making other appearances in New York around that date. Get the VCR serviced, you won't want to miss a moment!

New York? He lives HERE! Why not make some local appearances. Sheesh. Wasn't it nice of David to arrange such a nice birthday present for me? :)

Be sure to watch Leno's schedule - I think its highly likely we'll see him visit Jay too! Wish I could call him our native son, the chances he'd make an appearance anywhere near me are about next to none. Speaking of birthdays, Kevin's is not too far away, #43 I believe!

(Charlotte)New York? He lives HERE! Why not make some local appearances. Sheesh. Oh, didn't you know? He wants to be near me ;-p

Yup. #43. Jan. 18. Makes it real easy to remember my daughter's birthday, which is Jan. 17. :) Where are you, Sheila? Let's all stick our tongues out at Nan. :P :P :P I just ordered the novel "For the Love of the Game". Does anyone know who wrote "Message in a Bottle"?

Message in a Bottle-author Nicholas Sparks Storyline-A female journalist walking along a beach finds a bottle containing a love letter from a husband to his wife. Has such an effect on her-she falls in love with the writer and decides to track him down. For the Love of the Game-author Michael Shaara Storyline-A washed up pitcher pitches a perfect game while flashing back on what went wrong with his career. Charlotte, I live in an igloo near Toronto, Ontario CANADA (just joking) It is very WINTER here right now!

Come visit ME! I live in Southern California and it's around 68 degrees and sunny right now. We're hoping for rain on Saturday.

Has this Message book even been published yet? I can't find it at Amazon!!

Good question Charlotte, found this information through Movietrack search at www.erack.com Film is being produced for Warner Bros. I'm sure I saw something else about the project (can't remember where) Demi Moore's name had been mentioned in connection with it???? Perhaps I will email them and see if I can get any more information. What is the time difference between us? Four hours????

P.S. The article was from Mr.Showbiz P.P.S.S. Love to visit CA someday! Planning a Florida vacation next month!

Charlotte--I've been hunting through old magazines (I'm such a pack rat) ;-) The following 3 are from US Magazine (July 1991): Too funny, yes? This one is from US Magazine (January 1991)

Nan, I really like the last one! Mmmmmmmmm good!!!!

Nan! I've run out of ways to say thank you! Did you notice that my Kevin page is now listed on the FanSite Kevin page? (I so proud) :)

So you should be!!! Phyllis has a great page but I like yours best!!!! Take a bow!

Did you notice that my Kevin page is now listed on the FanSite Kevin page? YAY! You go, sister! ;-) No thanks necessary...I just love lookin' at him ;-p

Oh NA-A-AN! There is a new photo of Kevin in this week's People magazine. Pg. 47. The accompanying story is about how Kevin tried to get a PG-13 rating for The Postman, but got voted down. Twice.

So are you guys Kevin'd out, yet?? ;-) I hope you haven't missed Entertainment Tonight for about the past week. I think he's been on almost every day...and he will be again tonight, so head's up, ladies.

Surely you jest! For some of us, getting "Kevin'd out" is patently impossible! :) I caught last night's EW. Thanks for the tip about tonight! I am sooooo happy that the preliminary feedback about the film is good. I take it so personally when Kevin has to take a lot of abuse. :)

Oh Nooooo!!!!!! I missed it! Please share all the details girls.

Might be easier to send you the tape. :) Last night's favorite quote: re: kissing Olivia Williams... "I kissed her once for the movie, once for all the men everywhere, and then I kissed her for myself." (paraphrased from memory...may not be exact wording)

Last week, there was a segment about directing his kids in the movie. On Monday, people from Michigan and NJ got to ask Kev questions. The first lady asked him to give men tips to be sexy. He got all embarassed and kept looking down and sort of smiling and was telling the lady to settle down (if I hadn't seen a picture of Nan....). Then the last lady asked him if he would consider doing a nude scene. Again, he got all embarassed and fumbled over his answer, which was that he didn't even think about d ing that kind of stuff. OUR LOSS. About the only one he was good on was the one a kid asked about what sports he played as a kid. Of course!! He was also on during the weekend...but I don't even know what day/time they broadcast ET on the weekends. I'd say Kev is being so accessible to ensure a good reception for his movie.

Sorry for the delay, Charlotte--I've been a bit behind...;-)

Tin Cup was on last night on HBO: He said his inner child needed to be spanked. Where do I get in line??

Anybody pick up their January copy of PREMIERE magazine? Guess who is on the cover? Check out the cowboy boots and jeans on page 7. Yippy Skippy!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh yes, I have seen the Premiere Magazine--and a bee-yew-tee-ful thing it is. My very splashy pal, Marilyn sent it in a package of juicy tidbits today ;-) And here he is... Oh my!! ;-)... I think this is my favorite... But this one doesn't stink ;-p

SLUUUUURP!!! ;-)...... He certainly knows how to wear jeans and cowboy boots - too beautiful for words. ;-)

My vote has to go for the jeans and boots.

I wonder about those jeans........ Zip or button fly?????????

Oh Charlotte.... Another birthday present for you, make sure you catch Rose O'Donnell on December 15th too! Kevin Costner and Olivia Williams!

Oh Charlotte.... Another birthday present for you, make sure you catch Rosie O'Donnell on December 15th too! Kevin Costner and Olivia Williams!

Thanks, Sheila! I knew about the Rosie appearance, thanks to my trusty Entertainment Weekly! :) VCR is set up for both Rosie and Letterman. I got the Premiere mag, too. Read the article. Not as good as the George article, but not too terrible, either. Do you think, MAYBE, the press is beginning to respect Kevin? Nan, the photos are simply wonderful and I thank you. I can't wait until I can get to work tomorrow and upload them to my Web page. (I'm more comfortable doing Web work in Unix.) Ya know... he has been called "extraordinarily handsome", "extremely good looking", and "rakishly sexy". I say: he's simply beautiful.

Happy Birthday, Charlotte ;-)

Oh. My. God. I'm starting to wonder if you are exceedingly kind or excessively cruel, Nan! I'm 52 today, and I'm not sure how much longer my old heart can take stuff like this. Forever, I hope. :) It's a great day, so far...thanks for thinking of me. I'm leaving work now so I can go home and watch Rosie's birthday present to me. Isn't she sweet? :)

Just watched Rosie, it's such a treat to see Kevin being Kevin. He seemed a little nervous to me. What did you guys think when he spoke about his wife? Can't wait till tonight. Can't wait till The Postman! CHARLOTTE-HOPE YOU ARE HAVING A GREAT BIRTHDAY. * * * * * * * * * * I I I I I I I I I I I [___________] (does that look like a birthday cake?)

OOOPS! it looked a lot better on my response screen, I'm still new at this stuff.

It looks just fine, Sheila. It looks exactly how my own cake would look if i tried to put 52 candles on it. :)

Is no one going to comment on Kevin's Freudian slip on Letterman? ;-) I'm shocked.

(Karen) Is no one going to comment on Kevin's Freudian slip on Letterman? ;-) Didn't see it...what did he say? He was too adorable on Rosie this week ;-)

The Rosie appearance was delightful. I've watched the tape 3 times already. My VCR screwed up and I missed the Letterman spot. Dammit. And today I overslept and didn't get to the TV until 7:30. I watched until 9, but Kevin never appeared, as scheduled, on Good Morning America. Maybe he was in the half hour that I missed? Tell us about the Freudian slip!!

Let's see, it had to do with the kind of swash-bluckling move of picking a woman up while on horseback (like in Valmont). Dave questioned him about doing that and he replied that "throwing a woman on her back" (something like that) was a fantasy we all have. The place went nuts!! They were both so red. Kev couldn't even look up. Obviously he meant on "horseback" but it just came out on "her back." My oh my!! Maybe someone else can relate it better than I.

Let's see, it had to do with the kind of swash-buckling move of picking a woman up while on horseback (like in Valmont). Dave questioned him about doing that and he replied that "throwing a woman on her back" (something like that) was a fantasy we all have. The place went nuts!! They were both so red. Kev couldn't even look up. Obviously he meant on "horseback" but it just came out on "her back." My oh my!! Maybe someone else can relate it better than I.

You pretty much got it covered Karen, Kevin was very embarassed. It's too bad you missed it Charlotte because the Letterman Show was really good. Don't get me wrong I like Rosie's show a lot but I just felt that he seemed a little nervous with her one on one. She did say that they hadn't met before. I felt the conversation with Dave was a little more spontaneous. Dave asked him who his idols were and he named McQueen and Newman and also admitted he was having discussions with Paul Newman about working together. Sounds intriguing! How did you hear about the Good Morning America spot Charlotte? I feel like I live in Timbuktu!!!! My Dec 19/97 issue of Entertainment Weekly arrived today-all the articles are a week old!!!! Do you know of anything else scheduled?

FYI ladies...... The Postman site has been updated.

Yah! I noticed the new updated Postman site yesterday! I went looking for any possible pre-release dates...sneak previews and the like. Came up empty. Sheila, I did a search of the online tvlistings and found the GMA spots. Supposedly, he's on GMA again today, wrapping up from yesterday, and this time I'm ready. It's 7am as I type this and the VCR is rolling.

Guess what I got for Christmas!! My 5 closest friends went in together and bought me the 8-tape complete boxed set of "500 Nations"! Sure is soft and fluffy up here in these clouds! :)

Charlotte, while you were busy typing at 7 AM my morning was already half over (3 hour time change between us) Not a chance to catch GMA :( I was up to my eyeballs with data entry and tax remittance returns - Christmas vacation deadlines!!!! As much as I enjoy the holidays with my children, it is definitely the SILLY SEASON. I get very stressed out! I did something however, for me... Treated myself to The Directors Cut of JFK and Beyond JFK-The Question of Conspiracy. Pretty serious subject matter, but my video collection is now 2 larger. I am fascinated with American history - JFK was assassinated the year I was born. 500 Nations is EIGHT tapes?????? WOW, how long till we get your review??

Oh now I'm jealous! I don't have Beyond JFK yet. It's my plan to get it after the first of the year sometime. (I was told I could not buy myself anything until after the holidays.) Please let me know if Kevin onscreen in Beyond JFK very much. It may be awhile before you get a TOTAL review of 500 Nations. But I can give you eight separate ones as we watch them. The 6 of us have agreed to get together each Monday evening to watch one tape. I think GMA was a bust. I saw neither hide nor hair of our man. Either I misread the listing, or the listing was wrong.

Are you friends "KEVIN" fans too? Mine tease me about my "infatuation", I did something really dopey at work recently, I have been working on some golf course books so of course, what's on my mind....... GOLF.....TIN CUP.....ROY MCAVOY......KEVIN COSTNER!!!! The telephone rings...a guy named Kevin Bidwell for one of the accountants, but who does Sheila-head at the golf course say is calling....you guessed it! I got an amused raised eyebrow! JUST WISHFULL THINKING I GUESS :) !!! I shall watch Beyond JFK and give you a report, in fact I have to go wrap some Christmas presents now that the kids are in bed and I think I will pop it in the VCR

Charlotte, I was just browsing through Phyllis' guest book and found a posting saying Kevin will be on Regis and Kathie Lee Tuesday December 23, 1997. Their weekly schedule isn't posted till Monday, My guess is Regis and Kathie Lee are on vacation and this LIVE episode was taped this past week when Kevin was in New York. Reprogram that VCR!!!!!

OOoo! Thanks for the tip, Sheila! (Are we the only ones here?) No, my friends are not Kevin fans. They love me, though, so they are condescendingly tolerant. That's one reason why their gift means so much to me. It probably hurt them to buy the damn thing. :) I got this week's People magazine today. *sigh* They list The Postman as one of the worst films of the year. And it hasn't even opened yet. How can that be fair? And why should it matter to me what they think? But damn.

No, you're not the only ones here, but you may be the only KC fans right now. I'm not exactly a fan, but I don't dislike Costner, either. My husband and I plan to see The Postman because we like sci-fi. Evidently, there are lots of negative reviews and rumors flying about the film right now. Today's Chicago Sun-Times reports that there's an Internet rumor that Costner forced Mikhail Gorbachev to watch a rough cut of the movie at a recent dinner, while a translator interpreted each line of the dialog. Costner says it's not true, that they only showed the preview trailer. Evidently there are also rumors that there was laughter during a sneak preview of the film (evidently at something that wasn't supposed to be funny). But don't let rumors, bad reviews, etc. stop you from seeing something you're interested in! I can't tell you how many films I've disliked that had rave reviews, and vice-versa. If seeing KC on screen gives you a thrill, go for it!

Hi, Lorie! Ya know...I'm beginning to think that Kevin has become the Michael Bolton of films. The critics hate him, but he has a huge loyal fan following and his films make money. Listen, I loved Waterworld. I even sat through Sizzle Beach, even though it was less exciting than watching grass grow. I even liked Wyatt Earp! Do you think I'll let the critics sway my opinion of The Postman? Not a chance. It is an adaptaion of one of my most favorite novels and I have been waiting for it to make it to film for many years. That it has Kevin at the helm only doubles it's value for me! Yoo Hoo, Sheila! Got your VCR set up for Regis tomorrow?

VCR-READY,SET,GO...... Charlotte, there is a babe of a Kevin picture in December 24\97 issue of Entertainment Weekly page 8. All denim and barefoot.......GROOOAAANNN! Do you suppose if we got down on our knees and begged Nan would post it for us?

Oh golly, Sheila. YOU ask her. I'm already in debt to her up to my eyeballs. And she won't take bribes! :) Damn. I'll bet that's this week's EW. The one that has not arrived in my mailbox yet. It's usually always here by Tuesday, though, so I'll keep my fingers crossed. BAREFOOT, you say? Oh god, I've become so accustomed to those two-toned cowboy boots that seeing his actual feet might make me... well...it's not a pretty picture, I'll tell ya. :)

Okay Charlotte, tonight on Entertainment Tonight an interview with KC. Have fun ,girl and Merry Christmas everyone and Happy Hanukkah!!!!

You're right! I looked it up! But oh geez, they're gonna talk about his sex appeal. I hate it when they do that, cause it makes him so uncomfortable. Then again, it's high time he GOT comfortable with it, since it ain't going away. :) My VCR has seen more activity in the past month than in the past year! :)

So girls, who caught Regis & Kathie Lee? Does the man give turtleneck sweaters a new dimension or what?? I'll never think of a turtleneck in the same way again! How can I get a tour of his closet? ET- More please........ what a cutie patutie! Charlotte, did you get your EW mag yet? WHO IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST TO SEE THE POSTMAN? Happy Holidays Everyone!

I Am!! It's playing TODAY in Los Angeles. I am at the moment trying to pressure someone into going with me. It's a 2 hour drive and, while I will go by myself if I have to, company would be better. I saw the Regis bit. Loved it. Saw the ET bit. Loved it, too! He taped the Regis and Rosie shows on the same day. Just put on a sports jacket for Rosie. :) I like the new hairstyle. Finally. :) Couldn't you just listen to him talk all day long??? Oh...and YES! Got my EW mag. He has tiny ankles! But oh god, what being barefoot does do for a man, eh?

I'm hoping to make the movie this weekend, it will be the first chance I get. Simply too many Christmas commitments. My livingroom looks like a tornado went through this morning. I guess I will have to take my Kevin, and if I come out of the theatre all starry eyed he will reap the rewards :)

Well, I never made it to L.A. Christmas Eve. But I made the 10:30am showing Christmas morning. Cost me $3. :) Kevin is in nearly every scene. I wish he would keep the beard. Oh, my. :) It did not match my memory of the book, but it is grand and sweeping and very Dances-with-wolves-like. And did I mention that Kevin is in nearly every scene? :) I do not think it will sit well with the critics, however.

Sheila, I just ordered BEYOND JFK. Should get to me early next week. I've been reading POSTMAN reviews all morning. Very depressing. I think maybe Kevin and I are living in the wrong decade. I found one guy who loved it, though, and he admittedly *hates* Costner. That brightened my day, somewhat.

Charlotte, you are the best! Where are you Christmas morning? At Kevin Costner's latest film release! I simply am unable to top that! Grand and sweeping you say? I can hardly wait! I have this huge full page newspaper movie ad on my fridge, this is to discreetly inform my husband where we are going. Kevin is in nearly every scene ? Boy oh boy is my husband ever going to be glad he takes me to see Kevin instead of Jack Nicholson! $3 admittance?? Is that the regular rate? Don't ask what theatre's charge in Canada?

P.S. Have watched about half of Beyond JFK, so far Kevin's appearances are limited but it is interesting.

Drool alert from a non-drooler Your boy Kevin made a great golf shot today on the Celebrity Golf tournament. Now showing on NBC. Matt McConnaughy and other objets de drool are also playing.

".. it was a sweet moment for me ..." - Costner on his sensational golf shot. Just heard him say this on a live interview 30 seconds ago.

I saw THE POSTMAN yesterday and thought it was FABULOUS!! I've been spreading the word at work today about how good it really is. I also watched two days of golf (much to my husbands surprise) and saw the double eagle Kevin made. I love the pictures that have been posted here. Can anyone tell me how to save them to a file? I'm pretty net illiterate. I don't understand why the critics have been so hard on Kevin's movie. It's humerous, grand, sweeping, touching, moving, stirring....not to mention the fact that Kevin is GORGEOUS!! Did anyone catch him on Hollywood One on One yesterday?

I caught Kevin's double eagle as well. It was adorable. We knew it went in the hole before he did, and the look on his face when they told him was just priceless. I only watched the first round, which he and his partner Jim Colbert won. Does anyone know if they also won the final round the next day? I know why the critics don't like Kevin's movie. Because they don't like Kevin. They don't like the kind of movies that Kevin makes. If someone were to make "It's a Wonderful Life" today, the critics would hate it, calling it sappy and sentimental and sweet. I just hope the negative reviews don't hurt Kevin too much. They sure don't hurt me. I mostly feel sorry for anyone who is unable to see the beauty in this film. My roommate hasn't seen it yet. She wants me to go see it with her. Damn. I'll have to go see it again. :)

Have been browsing Newsgroups and the reaction to the film is definitely not favourable-there were few positive comments. Did pick up some comments from someone who met Kevin in a Seattle bar weekend of December 20-21/97 claimed he was very cordial and just seemed to be hanging out (with a group of women of course). Quite by accident I found in my local television listings a program called "Making of the Postman" scheduled to be aired on the speciality SPACE chanel Friday January 2/98 5:00pm EST. My local cable company doesn't offer me this station so I will have to plead and beg a family friend who lives in a nearby city that offers it to tape it for me.

I don't get that channel either. So I'll have to beg and plead with Sheila to make me a copy. :)

Sheila, I never heard of the Science channel. Could it be the sci-fi channel? on the E! channel, there is something called "Behind the scenes" which is about the making of the postman. I'm getting a friend to tape that for me.

Probably the same program Charlotte, more hype for the movie. I just emailed my friend and called in a favour (he has been known to mooch jars of homemade chilli sauce) hopefully he'll come through and we can exchange notes. The station is called the SPACE-IMAGINATION channel? SCI-FI by a different name?????

Kevin Costner loaned his private plane to the Kennedy clan so they could get to the recent funeral of Michael Kennedy.

Sounds like something Kevin would do. Of course the media will now claim that he did it to get attention for himself, and yada yada yada. Incidentally, there is lovely photo on the last page of this week's PEOPLE magazine of Kevin and his children. Where *are* you, Nan? :) Sheila, is there any info in your fanclub stuff that might tell us where we can send birthday greetings?

Incidentally, there is lovely photo on the last page of this week's PEOPLE magazine of Kevin and his children. Where *are* you, Nan? :) I'm here, dear...just been very busy with the Holiday stuff...is that this week's People? I don't subscribe so you have to let me know when there's a juicy photo (or mail them to me and I'll scan them in for you). I see that I missed a Kevin picture a couple of weeks ago in People...sorry :-(

Hi Nan - don't worry, sweetie, I'll mail them to you. I've been holding on to them for the next care package. Charlotte, are those children not gorgeous?! Little Joe is Kevin's clone! As far as recent Kevin photos go, I have to say the Premiere black and whites are my favorites.

Charlotte, I've seen nothing specific from the fanclub about Kev's birthday. I am expecting a winter newsletter though, so....who knows? I can pick up my videotape of The Making of the Postman anytime, Any luck with your pal Charlotte? If not, keep a close eye on television listings. I see it's being aired in my area again Friday night.

I printed out a listing of showing times and gave it to my friend who gets the E channel. He's pretty scatterbrained, but I nag him every day about taping it. :) Sheila, did you and your Kevin go see The Postman yet? Good to see you, Nan! We missed you!

Charlotte!! I just paid you a little visit and saw that too-delicious-for-words photo at the bottom of "t-shirt smiles". Merciful heavens!! Where did you get that one? It's really too, too beautiful. Lots of heavy breathing going on in this office today, honey ;-D

I just gotta share this. A friend found it on some fan page and sent it to me. Ain't it purty?

Charlotte, did you get the current issue of Entertainment weekly yet? The Postman is really being bashed badly. I even caught Jay Leno making jokes about it the other night. Is it that bad? (I'll never get Kev there with all these poor reviews)

Well, Sheila. I can't be objective, but I did not think it was that bad. The critics want to pigeonhole Kevin into his most successful roles, Bull Durham and Tin Cup. Unfortunately, those aren't the kinds of films he enjoys making. If The Postman had been made 20 years ago, it would have walked off with 11 Oscars. But it is out of place in our Pulp Fiction society now. EW talked about his ego and how inflated it is, but I am unable to accept that. He merely wants to make the kinds of films that he enjoys and that he can share with his family. And he has the power to do so, and uses it. I don't call that ego. I call it courage. I've seen The Postman twice. I was even less bored the 2nd time. The 2nd time, I looked for the subtleties, the nuances, and I was delighted with the richness of the cinematography. Dances with Wolves was long and pretentious in many ways, and had as much of Kevin's "ego" involved in it as does The Postman. But they loved it because it came as such a surprise. Bull Durham DIRECTS?? Outrageous! Then came Waterworld, which was not a bad movie, either. It just wasn't Bull Durham, so they trashed it. Titanic cost over 200 million, more than Waterworld. Where is all the bad publicity? You won't see it, because Jim Cameron is SUPPOSED to make big-budget movies...it's what the critics expect. Kevin won't play, and so he must be punished. I wish you were here, Sheila. We'd leave your Kevin with the kids and I would take you to see The Postman. P.S. Forgive the ranting. But if I can't vent here, where can I vent?

Picked up my videotape this weekend of The Making of The Postman. The actual title of the program is The Postman-A Director's Diary. If you get a chance girls, don't miss it! There are some great segments featuring the Costner kids. EW now has a website. You are able to browse articles from the last couple of years issues. There are some articles about Tin Cup and Waterworld that may interest you guys.

Sheila...GO SEE THE POSTMAN!!! I thoroughly enjoyed it. I love Kevin's humor. I REALLLLLY want to see it again. I don't think I can wait for the video to come out. Charlotte...I love your website. Kevin's pictures are to die for. I'm terribly jealous that you've seen The Postman a second time already. I agree with your thoughts on Kevin's movies. He has the guts to make the movies he wants to make and refuses to be put into a "box". Too bad the critics can't see that.

Just for the record Charlotte, Pulp Fiction did nothing for me. I think you should post the very words you wrote here in response directly to EW's article POSTMAN MORTEM on their website. Did you see their latest? An editorial cartoon depicting precautionary measures for bird flu "Stop Kevin Costner from making TURKEYS for awhile" I guess the only positive thing about the response to The Postman is that we won't have to wait long for the video release. I found an interesting new website called "JANET'S KEVIN COSTNER HOMEPAGE" she has an interesting photo gallery - Have a look ladies!

If this is Janet Goh, she and I have been corresponding. She lives in the Philipines and is 17. She asked me, "Do you think it's weird for a 17-year-old girl to love Kevin Costner?" I told her that what I think is weird is that EVERY woman doesn't! Sheila, can you post the URL to Janet's page? And thanks for the compliment, Sheila, but I doubt that anyone would take my words about Kevin very seriously, given that I make it very clear I am unable to be objective where he is concerned.

Try this URL: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/9332/

hi ppl, wow..i did not know that there is such a great conference room about kevin costner. i'm more surprised to see that u ladies have found ur way to my website at http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/9332 .gallery 3 is going to be up soon. btw , charlotte, i'm from Malaysia not the Philippines . can someone plz tell me what kev's favorite color is?

Here are some new ones ladies...(thanks Marilyn, dearest :-D) Isn't he lovely....

Is that the photo from PEOPLE? Looks like a proud papa to me! Hi Janet! Judging by your website you are going to fit right in here. As Charlotte would say...when it comes to KC we go off the chart. POSTMAN question: Does Kevin sing a duet with Amy Grant for the film?

hi ppl, sheila, thanx for the warm welcome .to answer ur question i saw somewhere that the song that kevin's doing a duet with amy grant is called you didn't need to be so nice and i think it's in the postman soundtrack .hey does anyone here know what kind of instrument kevin plays besides the guitar? does he play bass , lead , rhythm or just the plain acoustic guitar.i dun have that roving boy cd yet. pls post an answer soon .thanx

Taken from The Toronto Sun..... "YOUR BIRTHDAY TODAY: SUNDAY JANUARY 18 Your charm and your determination will make you hard to resist this year. You will be able to cross over the line when dealing with others and still get away with whatever you really want to do. If you follow your heart and intuition, you will find peace of mind and the happiness you're looking for." What more could we wish him?

Oh, Sheila, that's lovely! HAPPY BIRTHDAY, KEVIN!! I am celebrating in my own little way today, since I am unable to send him my best wishes. Janet, I know very little about Kevin's personal life. Sorry. I'm funny that way where Kevin is concerned. But with other celebrities that I adore, such as Ralph Fiennes or Alan Rickman...I want to know EVERYTHING! :) Kevin is just too special to me. I want to give something back to him, and the only thing in my power to give him is my respect for his privacy.

Is that the photo from PEOPLE? Looks like a proud papa to me! Yes, that's the one from People. His kids are very pretty...good genes! ;-) Now that I see it, I should have reduced the size a bit--looks a little blurry. No matter, Charlotte will reduce it before putting it in her archives ;-) (Sheila) "YOUR BIRTHDAY TODAY: SUNDAY JANUARY 18 (Charlotte) HAPPY BIRTHDAY, KEVIN!! Is it really Kevin's birthday today? Get outta town! What a bizarre coincidence. It also happens to be the birthday of that big, bald hockey brute I've mentioned before...do I know my type or what? LOL! But with other celebrities that I adore, such as Ralph Fiennes Oh, I didn't know you liked Ralph, Charlotte. Go to the Feinnes board--I left you a little pretty there ;-) http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/40/new

Went there before I came here, Nan. (I always save the Kevin stuff for last.) Ralph is a lovely thing, and can act circles around my Kevin. But the heart knows no logic, does it? :) But hey, we're here to drool! And Ralph makes me need a bib. Yup! Kevin is 43 today! I wonder how he is spending his big day.

Janet has Gallery 3 completed if anyone is interested! I must confess Charlotte, I think Alan Rickman stole the show from Kevin in Robin Hood. What a deliciously, wicked villain,

hi ppl, sheila..gallery 3 is up but not completed. more pics r to come when i have time ..maybe i'll put them up tonight. my site is now listed under YAHOO do a search on kevin costner and u'll see it.

Ladies, Janet sent me the most beautiful photograph. I love it so much it now reigns as the cover photo for my Web page. Go look. But remember to wear a bib! D-R-O-O-L!

I'm going to post this on all the boards since I know that many of you are having a problem with "new" posts... Sorry for dropping out if sight for a while--I've been remarkably busy this last couple of weeks. Hopefully, that is about to change for a while ;-) Anyone who had my office email may delete it from their address books as this is my last day at work (YAY!!) and that address will be disabled by the end of the day. I can now be reached at nan@ntr.net. You should use that one until Terry has a chance to change to the forwarding address on my Spring email (nan@www.spring.com) I'll catch up later people...sorry.

I'll set it up now, Nan.

Just doing a test, girlies...I'm sure you won't mind ;-)

Ladies, you see what happens when we don't keep our boy's drool conference busy? Nan takes his picture down! waahhhhhhh!

Nan takes his picture down! waahhhhhhh! LOL!! Actually I was working on a Kevin one for the front, but it didn't come out as well as Colin's so I have to put in a little more time on it. That picture out front isn't working anyway...takes too long to load. But I was tired of the b&w...I'll figure something out. Won't be long, dear. Do hang on! ;-)

I love you, Nan.

You crack me up, Charlotte! ;-D

OK. I'll just talk to myself, if I have to. :) They aired BULL DURHAM on A&E tonight. A&E. Cable. QUALITY cable. And they cut it. Badly. REALLY badly. I couldn't watch. Well, I did watch for a few minutes. He is so achingly gorgeous in the bar by the pool table before Tim Robbins belts him one. Then I popped back to my new discovery on PBS: As Time Goes By, with Judi Dench and Geoffrey Palmer. (But that's for another conference.) Tomorrow, I will watch my OWN damn version of Bull Durham, and NOTHING will get cut. Makes ya drool just thinking about it, huh?

Charlotte, I caught A&E's Bull Durham too! I'd love to get hold of the %@&# who did the butcher job! I also caught Night Shift this week, it's just a brief appearance and Kev looks so young. Heard any buzz about his next project? Did I read Robin Wright is signed as the female lead for Message in a Bottle. Wasn't she supposed to originally play Marion in Robin Hood?

Thought maybe somebody might be interested in seeing the back end of my car:

LOL!! Oh Charlotte...you are faaaaaar gone! ;-D Too funny. Does Kevin know about you? ;-p

Heavens no! How could he? He's got a zillion fans, and I'm sure many of them are more fanatic than I am. I'd sure love to be able to thank him, though. He's added so much richness to my life.

I LOVE IT CHARLOTTE!

Very nice job on the opening collage, Nan! Who's the semi-handsome hunk in the lower left?

Who's the semi-handsome hunk in the lower left? Hockey player...see the droolworthy sports figures board. He is to me what Kevin is to you :-) Droolworthy Sports Figures

Oh drat! That's what I get for trying to type a link at 6:25am...(sigh) Again: Droolworthy Sports Figures

That's it, I'm going back to bed ;-) Damned Droolworthy Sports Figures ;-p

That's Mark??? Holy Cow. I've been a Gretzky fan for 15 years, seen hundreds of photos of them together. Sure didn't recognize Mark from the above. wowweeeee! Got any photos of Marty McSorley? OOps! Sorry, Kevin! Wrong topic! :)

Holy cow , charlotte ! You weren't kidding about those number plates .

I love my plates! :) Janet, I received the Premiere magazine, thank you!! I plan to mail your tape tomorrow.

u're welcome , charlotte .i hope u like the ralph pic attached to it .and something's on it's way too .u'll know when u receive it .thanx for the tape and can u plz send a photocopy of the inlay of he cd together with it plzzzzz? btw , have u managed to order ur calendar ? see ya later aligator .:-)

Janet, I ordered my calendar, and I have asked them TWICE to email me an acknowledgement of the order but they have not responded. :( I have a scanner now! So I can scan the lyrics for you!

I have a scanner now! Uh-oh...watch out--it's dangerous ;-) Everyone made fun of me because I'd scan anything that wasn't nailed down, but I loved it...

Thanks Charlotte *hugs* :-D .i'm quite sure i ordered the calendar from that URL .i think they'll post u a respond soon .

Janet, did you get your calendar from YOURS DIRECT LTD in the UK?

i thought it was MovieWorld .http://www.btinternet.com/~movieworld/film/costner.htm if u don't trust it , i'll try to find another URL which sells this merchandize and get back to u .

i thought it was MovieWorld ,charlotte . http://www.btinternet.com/~movieworld/film/costner.htm if u don't trust it , i'll try to find another URL which sells this merchandize and get back to u .

oops , i mistook u for charlotte , sheila .a thousand apologies , ppl .i'm still half asleep when i replied this .

and yes sheila , the very same calendar can be obtained from Yours Direct LTD .here's the URL charlotte , in case u did not managed to get the calendar at MovieWorld .http://www.yoursdirect.com/Site/Catalogue/Calendrs/Film/kcos98.htm i think they have a Kevin Costner organiser too , right sheila ? good luck , char .

So. How ya doing, Sheila? (We gotta keep this topic active, or Nan'll take his picture off the door!) I'm thinking about bidding on a Robert Stephen Simon lithograph of Kevin that I saw on a Web auction. Think I oughtta?

I am rather attached to KC's picture smirking at me when I visit the conference! Lithograph sounds interesting, I prefer art over posters on my walls GO FOR IT! Stumbled across a copy of the golden oldie THE GUNRUNNER at the video store yesterday. There are not many KC movies I have not seen. It struck me while watching what a distinct not to mention sexy as hell voice Kevin has. Oh to have him whispering sweet nothings in your ear! Received my KCFC journal and newsletter this week. There were several articles from Australian sources, THE POSTMAN opened down under in February. I am due to renew. Did you ever decide to join? Somehow I have a few duplicate copies of some newsletters and a journal. if you'd like them just tell me where to send them. Heard anythng about MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE? Robin Wright Penn, Paul Newman, April shoot on the east coast.......

Ooo! Paul Newman and Kevin? I may have to wear two bibs! I thought he was gonna do FOR THE LOVE OF THE GAME next. I bought the book and read it. Can't imagine a film adaptation, since all of the drama takes place in the hero's head. But hey, that's why I'm not a moviemaker. :) I bought THE GUNRUNNER a coupla years ago, and remember the scene you refer to. I may have to rewatch that one. Speaking of voices, forgive me for being off topic, but I saw THE MAN IN THE IRON MASK yesterday, and lord help me but I had forgotten all about Jeremy Irons' voice! From the first words of the opening narration, which he voices, I was lost. So lost that I went out and rented THE FRENCH LEUTENANT'S WOMAN and DAMAGE so I could hear it some more. I'm so sorry, Kevin, but if I had to choose between your whisper in my ear and Jeremy's, I would have to choose the Brit. Do we even have a topic for old Jeremy?

Jeremy Irons is excellent. He did the voice for DISNEY'S villain Scar in THE LION KING. Such menace conveyed in just words. How about REVERSAL OF FORTUNE, another great performance. Didn't he get an Oscar for that one? Staying on topic in KC's drool pool...... Did you ever get to see THE MAKING OF THE POSTMAN-Director's Diary? How soon do you think we will see a video release?

the postman just opened in malaysia .hey did u guys get to see the whole of the end credits..went to see it but did not get to hear him sing . i'd like to post some pictures to this conference for u ladies but i don't know how to do it . can someone teach me ?

hallo im from danemark

Janet, Just insert HTML tags as if you were posting the image on your web page. You know...angle bracket,IMG,angle bracket, etc. Put the images on your website first so that everyone can access the URL that you post here. I have received your gift, Janet, but have not yet been able to get to the post office to pick it up. I have not mailed your tape yet, I have been too broke! I will mail it this week, because I get paid soon.

thanx Charlotte for the tip .u can mail the tape whenever u choose but plz don't send it in april because i'll no longer be around .so sorry for the trouble . really glad that the gift has arrived .hope u'll like it .i got it specially made for u . now for a test drive . ladies , plz don't kill me if the picture does not turn out right .

thank God it turned out well. here's another one .

Excellent job, Janet! Heaven help us, but he does dress up nicely, doesn't he? :) What was this Golden Globe for...Dances with Wolves?

Waterworld is on tv this week! On network tv no less.

No big surprise there. They'll probably air The Postman next week. It's only the ones that the critics love that they make you wait for.

i don't think the postman is as bad as the critics say , though it might be a bit too long .

Gene Siskel calls it the worst film of the year. I REALLY take offense to this, because I KNOW there were worse movies made last year. For me, it was not even too long. But then, I loved the book, and my only complaint is that Kevin left out too much of the book.

Just bought my copy of The Saint (I've been lusting after Val Kilmer lately) and they had the greatest audience preview before the film... Picture this...dreamy music and slow sweeping shots of Hollywood's most popular leading men; Cary Grant, Harrison Ford, Robert Redford, Sean Connery, Val Kilmer, KEVIN COSTNER, Tom Cruise, Jeff Bridges, John Travolta, Mel Gibson, Jack Nicholson, Al Pacino, Paul Newman, Kurt Russell, Andy Garcia, Michael Douglas, Ryan O'Neal, Denzil Washington, Richard Gere, Patrick Swayze, Alec Baldwin, Warren Beatty, Gregory Peck, Steve McQueen...... The music fades and the words appear on the screen....... THE MAN OF YOUR DREAMS IS AVAILABLE..... AND FOR SALE ON VIDEO CASSETTE.

i think u'll like this one too charlotte . speaking of the postman, i wonder if i'm the only one who is not able to see the webcast .anyone here witht eh same problem ?

hmm seems that the pic did not turn out well .

anyone interested to buy a copy of david brin's The Postman ? i have 2 copies .

I have 2 copies, too. Keeping both. :) Where are you going to college, Janet? What do you plan to study?

i'd still like to sell one of them . i've sold a lot of my stuff lately .i'm going to Prime College in about 2 weeks time .the semester starts on april 13 but my parents want me to go there about a week earlier to get me settled .The college is in Kuala Lumpur which is an island away from where i live .i'm planning to take up either computer science or computer engineering but i can decide that later this year because i have to sit for a programme called PAD .that programme takes about 9 months .

(Sheila) Just bought my copy of The Saint (I've been lusting after Val Kilmer lately)and they had the greatest audience preview before the film... Check out topic 89, honey ;-)

Jay Leno was cracking jokes last night about Paul Newman and Kevin Costner not being able to find a location to shoot their new film, the towns they have approached have rejected them!

Where is the humor in THAT? sigh. I'm waiting for the critics to express pity that Newman has sunk so low. You've depressed me, Sheila. I'm gonna have to go watch Tin Cup or something. :)

(Sheila) Jay Leno... Boo, hiss :-(

Apparently Kevin has signed on to do another flick; THIRTEEN DAYS, a story set during the Cuban missile crisis. What year was that? 1961? Can someone tell me how to post in italics?

Oh, great. I can just hear Jay Leno now. :) Let's see, that's Message in a Bottle, For the Love of the Game, and Thirteen Days. I wonder if all three will shoot in 1998?

I am happy as long as we keep getting more.......Kevin Costner :)

If ever I hear anyone say again that Kevin takes himself too seriously, I will play them the opening from last night's Oscar ceremony. I give everyone fair warning.

Was that not a hoot?! I was thinking the same thing, Charlotte...good for him! :-)

Didn't catch the first few minutes of the ceremonies, what did I miss?

Oh Sheila. I'll send you the tape. Is VHS format the same in Canada as here? You missed Kevin in full Postman costume hanging off the tip of the Titanic, while Billy Crystal asks him to deliver the Oscar envelopes if he makes it home safely. Kevin drops toward the sea, and Billy yells "Are you alright?". Kevin replies as he flails toward his doom, "Yeah, I'm fine, but you still have three hours to get through." Or something like that. Oh, and the scene opened with Billy perched atop the bow of the sinking ship screaming "Could there ever be a worse disaster?" and a voice below yells "Yes! There could!", and it's Kevin. Maybe somebody else can describe it better.

I'm posting this at all the most frequently used topics, so forgive my redundance but it has to be done... By the end of this week, the domain name for Spring will be changed to spring.net (instead of the current, spring.com) please change your bookmarks after the change takes place.

Ladies, get out your bibs. Look what arrived in the mail for me yesterday.

Rats. And I was being so dramatic. :) Let me try again. Keep the bibs on.

Much better, huh? Now, if I was clever like Nan, I would know how to make it smaller so your browsers would not choke. But hey, he's a big guy. :)

ladies ..charlotte in particular , i think i have something that u'll like .

aaahhh !!!it has happened again .

Funny, of the three that you gave Sheila (and she passed to me), this is the one I like the least, Janet. Post the "empire" one and let the Drool ladies take a vote. This one makes him look mean, well maybe that's not the problem. Old. It makes him look old. I dunno. Maybe it will grow on me. I'm flexible. :)

ok ladies , tot he voting booth .here's the one from Empire magazine .

Charlotte .i got the tape yesterday .Thank u very much .

Oh goodie! I was starting to worry! What do you think of it? Thanks for posting this photo. I love that warm golden glow it has.

here's a blond kevin costner for charlotte and sheila . another kevin costner picture . and another... another one again is this enough ?

here's a blond kevin costner for charlotte and sheila . another kevin costner picture . and another... another one again is this enough ? anyway , it's sufficient for the day .

the last one did not come out right .. here it is again ...

here's a blond kevin costner for charlotte and sheila . another kevin costner picture . and another... another one again is this enough ? anyway , it's sufficient for the day .

ooops , i think i over did it this time .Nan , can u please take down some of those .i'm really sorry .

(Janet) Nan , can u please take down some of those .i'm really sorry. Honey, you can never have too much Kevin ;-) Which brings me to the following... I made him a little smaller for you Charlotte... :-)

but still breathtaking. am i the only one affected by this photo?

I'm surprised you can't hear me slurping all the way from Canada.

(Charlotte) am i the only one affected by this photo? Mercy, no! :-D

Thanks for using spring.net!

Thanks Nan for not dropping the nuclear bomb on me .I'll be leaving on April 8th so i won't be able to log on as often anymore .So here's some more Kevin Costner for everyone .i think it will last for a lifetime . and yes , pease don't send anymore e mail to janet@tm.net.my my new e mail address will be janet_g@hotmail.com or janet@eudoramail.com i think i prefer the eudoramail address .

(Terry) Thanks for using spring.net! Sure thing. Janet!! That second photo (the one with the tux) is making me a wild thing! Scrape me off the floor! ;-)...

Nan , here's another for u .Charlotte , do u remember this one from "his senior prom"?

it takes time to load .but i think it's worth tha wait ..nan can u help me make it a little smaller ?

I hope this works. Here is the Kevin & Amy duet in Real Audio Kevin Sings!

Kevin hosted the Celebration of Life salute to Israel last night - more on that as I learn more, he was featured on tonights Access Hollywood. He looked god in a tux (next to Micheal Douglas onstage).

When does he not look good? :) Thanks for the tip. I never watch Access Hollywood, but I have time to catch it tonight.

Wow! I watched the teeny snippet of Kevin on Access Hollywood. Then about an hour later, I switched channels and discovered that they were televising the entire Israel Birthday celebration, which the teeny snippet was from. :) I taped it so I could go to sleep. Can't wait to watch it tonight!

hi u guys what's up with kc now ? haven't got any news since i arrived at college . how r u guys doing ?

Street date for The Postman video-June 9/98

Not enough drooling in this topic lately. Maybe this will help:

Oooh baby! You've never seen someone hit that "Save Picture As" button so fast in your life! What a purty man, he is :-)~~~

Yeah. That's kinda been my impression for about 15 year or so. :) Oooo! Nan taught me to drool in ascii! :)~~~~~

A nice lady named Arlene stopped by my website Monday to leave me email, sharing the delicious story of how she met Kevin in a bar in Bath, Maine. He had just finished shooting in the small New England town, and had arrived at the bar with 3 friends. Arlene said he had to lean his ear very close to her mouth so that he could hear what she was saying above the noise of he bar. She said he smelled nice. (Please appreciate how calmly I am typing all this. What you do not know is that i am screaming here! But jealousy is an evil and nonproductive thing, so I will be calm.) :) They talked about, if you can imagine, frozen twinkies. I gotta hand it to Arlene. Inane as that subject matter may sound to you, at least she was able to articulate in some known language while his ear (and neck and cheek, etc!) were so close to her lips. I, you can be certain, would have turned to stone. Catatonic. He would have pleaded for someone to dial 911. :) Here's lifting a cool Corona to you, Arlene! And did everyone see that some auspicious and highly visible website of the stars had chosen our very own Janet's Kevin Costner page as the very best Kevin Costner page on the net? I could not be more in agreement. Here's a cool Corona to you too, Janet! And where are you, sweetie?

Hey Nan!! Went cruising looking for Kevin, where I was told he would be filming and there was no evidence of a movie anywhere in the area. Bad info. Must get a new source, better source!! Sorry. Had my camera with as well. :-(

(Karen) Sorry. Had my camera with as well. :-( Well, doesn't that suck wind?! At least you tried, babe ;-) Now, you will let me know if you stumble across him somewhere, won't you?

Went cruising where? I think filming in Maine has finished. Not sure if the Chicago shoot has started yet.

Yes, am in Chicago. Was told filming was scheduled for a certain block on the 14-16th. Not a !@#$ "no parking - movie location" sign anywhere in the vicinity. Also, v. hard to miss all the vans. :-D Nan, you'll be first...or maybe the second. Got my long zoom lens out of its case raring to go.

NO!!!!!!!! Article in Chicago Sun-Times (7/14) showing Kevin in a light khakish suit with tie holding a microphone to mouth. Costner Q-and-A: Film star charms fans here, outlines upcoming projects "This will be a very free exchange. Ask anything you want. I only ask that there be manners between us," said Kevin Costner Monday night to an overflow crowd of nearly 500 at the Chicago Historical Society. The event was sponsored by the Chicago Film Critics Association and benefitted its "Send a Needy Kid to a Movie" program. The Oscar-winning actor, director and producer proved prophetic as he charmed a roomful of people with personal anecdotes and quite serious statements of his philosophy about the business of making movies. After an opening montage of his films--ranging from "Silverado" to "Dances with Wolves" and even his recent critically panned "The Postman," Costner appeared to enjoy the interchange as moviegoers and members of the media peppered him with questions. The entertainer made it clear that "while people know a lot about me--too much even--they don't really know me." He said, "Seeing me at premieres, or reading about me in magazines, or seeing me get out of a fancy car is no way to understand who I am." In addition to sharing personal stories from his childhood--including his disappointment upon learning he was too young to attend "Ben Hur" with his brother and being scared witless when his father took him to "Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte" and he didn't realize what it was about--Costner screened a short movie ("one of my home movies") he made while filming "Waterworld." The audience included a fair number of film critics, and Costner pulled no punches in critquing that profession. "If I criticized my children the way I have been criticized the past few years, they would never do anything ever again," he said. "Constructive criticism is fine...but there is no room for cynicism or criticism as entertainment....Skepticism is important in this world, but not cynicism." When asked about the controversy that arose over a movie project he was planning with the late Princess Diana--something that came to light after her death--Costner confirmed the story. "That is true," he said when asked if she had shown interest in starring in a sequel to the Costner-Whitney Houston hit "The Bodyguard." "We would have had fun....I would have treated her right," he said. Now that he ahs completed "Message in a Bottle" (partially filmed in Chicago), Costner said, "I'm making my third baseball film...baseball is just the backdrop...it's about people's lives....Then I'm playing Kenny O'Donnnell in a film about [the Kennedys] and the Cuban missile crisis."

Moved this conversation from the Fiennes board...seems more appropriate here: (Nan) You know, Charlotte...just got my Snappy...I hear Sixty Minute Man playing in my head...I see photos with lots of candles ;-) (Charlotte) Lemme see. Shall I let her know how retarded I am by asking her, "What's a Snappy?", or shall I prove how uncultured I am by inquiring about the performer(s) of Sixty Minute Man? Or shall I just bluster my way through my confusion by saying something banal like, "oooo! candles!" :) LOL! You could have said "oooo! candles!" and I wouldn't have known the difference. But your way was much more entertaining :-D A Snappy is a little whatchamacallit that allows you to "snap" still photos from a video source (VCR, camcorder...) 'Tis a lovely thing, honey! See... See what I mean? Is it not too fabulous?! :-) Oh...and Sixty Minute Man Is the name of the song playing in the background when this scene is taking place.... (BTW, "Sith Minute Man' was recorded by "The Dominoes" - 1951)

Oh. My. God. Do you possibly have any idea how many still shots I need you to capture?? I need a Snappy. Does it connect to your VCR, or do you have to have your computer connected to your TV? I am sooooo ignorant, but soooo needy!

I have a used one for sale.

Terry, I'm interested. But I need to more about how to use it. :) Shall we be nice to these people and switch to email? cbridges@esri.com

Sure, email me at terry@spring.net with all your comments/questions.

(Charlotte) Oh. My. God. Do you possibly have any idea how many still shots I need you to capture?? I do, indeed! I knew you'd be pleased... :-) Does it connect to your VCR, or do you have to have your computer connected to your TV? I am sooooo ignorant, but soooo needy! It doesn't have to be connected to the TV--you can just connect the VCR directly to the computer and view the film through the Snappy window...too cool!! Until you and Terry get a chance to work something out for the used Snappy, feel free to let me know what photos you'd really love to have. Since it's my new toy, I'll take any excuse to play with it, baby :-)

I love you, Nan. But then...you already know that. :)

Awwww :-}

Charlotte, thank you so much for helping me find my way back here! I have missed the Drool Conference desperately!

Sheila! Where ya been? ;-)

Someway and somehow I lost you guys! Searched many times and always came up empty. VERY WEIRD! Charlotte gave me the new URL. What have I missed?

I'm a saint, I am. [*giggle*]

(Sheila) What have I missed? Oh, same old schtuff. I got a Snappy...:-D

Snappy as in digital????

Snappy in that she can freeze frame ANY scene in ANY video and turn it into a .jpg file. Like she just did. She's a show off. I love her. :)

TOO COOL! Any success over at ebay lately Charlove?

Any success over at ebay lately Charlove? Oh yeah! Just got two new photos. One arrived yesterday, and the other is on its way. I'm a big seller over there now, too! I currently have about a dozen VHS videos on sale, and one of my heirloom-quality baby afghans. :) This is the one that arrived yesterday. I posted it here a few weeks ago, but I'm sure Nanner won't mind if I replay it. It's a doozy!

Mercy! :-D

Hello, sailor!

Yeah. And get this: Kevin has said in interviews that he positively hates making love scenes. Not because of the intimacy, but because he hates taking off his shirt. He says "I'm not buff. I don't work out." Well I say: "Honey, with shoulders like those, you don't need to!". But, I admit to being just a wee bit biased. :)

I don't like those obvious work-out chests anyway - they look like they might explode the minute you dig your fingers into them! Yuk!

Anyone for a swim? I need cooling off! That's a beauty pic Charlotte! Tell me more about the email you got from the lucky lady who had Kev whispering in her ear! (groan!)

Not much to tell, sweetie. I done told all there is. :) I have not heard from her since. By the way, your belated birthday present, and stuff for the kids, is on its way to you at last.

Yooo-hooo, Charlotte...Sheila...come out to play...;-)

Oooo! Nan's been Snappin' again! :) Thanks, Nan! And how come you never answer my email? :)

Which email, honey?

I sent you two emails at nan@spring.net asking you to snap from some movies for me. never heard nuttin. You've outdone yourself on the door collage this time, sweetie! I won't even whine about there being three photos of Colin to everyone else's one. :) Who is the dude in the lover left bubble?

Honey, I didn't see your emails :-( At least I don't remember them, if I did. I'll have to check. Who were you looking for? Sorry, not usually so flaky...:-/ Who is the dude in the lover left bubble? Brendan Fraser. SA-LUURP! ;-D Glad you like the main page, babe. Soon I'll have to go over to your page to swipe some more photos--I'm running out ;-)

All I asked in my email was if you could rent DANTE'S PEAK and snap a scene for me. I'd pay for the rental. :) Also need you to rent CONTACT. There is not a photo of William Fichtner ANYWHERE on this damn web!

Oh, okay...just email me with the scene you want and I'll get them for ya, baby ;-)

Just finished reading "Message In A Bottle" last night, SOB! SOB! SOB! (thank you Charlotte) This will be a terribly romantic movie, has anyone heard a release date?

February 14, 1999.

Time to defend my "high priestess" status. :) This is a 5-foot tall screen that holds 15 8 x 10 photos. I have two open spots left, which will be filled by next week. And I have no more wall space! :) and this is the wall opposite the screen. The top of the bookshelf holds all but 2 of Kevin's movies. I'll scan the other walls in this room as soon as the film comes back from being developed. :) So can I still keep my title? :)

Never questioned for a moment your "title" What could we promote you to? GODDESS ??? You are the best Char! They are fabulous displays!

Dont wanna be goddess. too much responsibility. :)

I was going to say the same thing as Sheila--was your title ever in question? ;-) It think it was the license plate photo that convinced me ;-p BTW, you did say "Dante's Peak", didn't you?

Yes. Dante's Peak. I was never a big Pierce Brosnan fan until I saw that film. There is a scene about 30 minutes into the film where Pierce's character is in a bar, shooting pool. He has on a white shirt with the sleeves rolled up to the elbows (a look that always makes me weak!) and he leans down to make a shot, and his shirt is unbuttoned about 37 buttons, and he looks up toward you, under the hanging lampshade, and ... well, it made me gasp in the theatre. at home, with the rental, it made me rewind and replay about 37 times. Let me know if anyone besides my crazy self was melted by that scene. My friend and I said, after seeing it in the theatre for the first time, "A woman does the costumes for this movie. Only a woman would have dressed him like that". :) Then again, was the DIRECTOR a woman? It was the director who asked him to lean over the table like that.

September 1, 1998... We're scooped that Kevin Costner is having a little bit of hard time getting a female lead for his new baseball movie. According to our scooper, the female lead is a fashion photographer who falls for Kevin's character. Producers had originally approached Helen Hunt for the role, but she turned it down. They're now hoping that Natasha Richardson will give in and play Kevin's love interest. [Danka, 'adamcatilin'.] This is from a website I frequent called "Upcoming Films". I don't have the URL handy, but I can post it if anyone asks. Kevin has wrapped up his work on "Message in a Bottle", and is set to begin production of "For The Love Of The Game" this month. Sign the damn papers, Natasha!! :)

The URL is: Upcoming Films

OOps. This is a better URL: Upcoming Films

Did anyone happen to catch the commercial during last night's World Series game featuring some hockey greats on an ice rink built in a corn field asking for a "puck"? As the spot was sponsored by Labatts Blue (Canadian brewery in Toronto) it may have only been shown on Canadian Network TV. I just thought it was interesting that KC's Field of Dreams still has influence.

I saw Message in a Bottle Saturday night. It is difficult to know how the critics will react (and frankly, I don't care), but in my decidedly biased opinion, it is a lovely film. Cinematography is breathtaking, and Paul Newman and Robin Wright Penn are superb. Kevin gets more gorgeous with each passing year, and if he is outacted by those two, they cannot hold a candle to his physical presence. I had read the book, so there were no surprises for me, but I am sure most of the audience was a bit unsettled by the ending. Go see it. It will make you love him all over again.

(Charlotte)Go see it. It will make you love him all over again. Ah Charlotte, there you are. Haven't seen you around in ages. I saw the trailer a few times and was wondering how long it would take for you to show up, drooling all over the place. Mercy, but he's purty! ;-p~~~

About time! I've been seeing those trailers for eons and can't wait to see this movie. Haven't read the book, but looks like another Bridges over.... but with a *better* cast. Love these kinds of movies (OK, that verifies how shallow I am!!)

The book was awful. Ending was awful. Movie much better, still hate the ending. Nan, I've been so confused! Did you give up droolmastership? The front door is missing your touch.

(Charlotte) Nan, I've been so confused! Did you give up droolmastership? Indeed I did. I have school to worry about, ya know... The front door is missing your touch. LOL! You poor dear...surrounded by Colin, not a Kevin photo in sight ;-p

It's ok. I have about 8 photos in my office, and I've lost count in my house. Friends call my home office "Kevin's Room", ya know. You're in SCHOOL?? Dunno why, but I have always pictured you as an older, mature professional. But a STUDENT! Color me confounded! If ya get a minit, Nan...go see my kitten, Korben Dallas, who is now 10 months old and weighs in at 11 pounds. :) http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/4772 click on "My new Ragdoll Kitten"

(Charlotte) Dunno why, but I have always pictured you as an older, mature professional. After living in the real world for 15 years I decided to go back to Graduate School. So, your vision of me as "older" is probably accurate, but my maturity level can certainly be questioned ;-p And I did go look at the new kitten...what a beautiful animal! What made you choose that breed? And I'm sure there's a story behind the name, so talk to me...;-)

Picked up the March issue of Redbook on Saturday. "Climb in the backseat with Kevin Costner...." They do love to tease a girl! I especially liked the cover shot!

Oh, it's out already?? duh. i was waiting for March! I'm on my way!

There is a three page article on Kev in the March issue of US magazine.

Sheila, didja see the movie yet?

Not yet, have been really busy lately....work, kids, house for sale etc, etc.. I read it had a great opening weekend. My Kevin and I are overdue on a night out...they are promoting it as the ultimate date movie. How many boxes of tissues will I need? I sobbed my eyes out when I read the book.

Well, the book did not make me cry, but the movie did. That ought to help you decide how many boxes you'll need. :) Your Kevin might even get a little misty.

Still remember me ?It's been ages since I last came here. How's everyone ? Anyway I hope you guys will like this wallpaper that I've made.

It seems I cannot submit it . Anyway you guys can check it out at http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/9332/kcwallpaper.html

Hi, Janet! How's school? What are you studying? I'm glad you still find time for Kevin! :)

Janet, thank you so much! This wallpaper is now in both my home and office computers. It's gorgeous. I know you are busy, but thank you so much for taking the time to do this, and for sharing it with us!

I read, as reported on Entertainment Tonight, Kev will be a presenter at the Academy Awards March 21.

AWESOME!! thanks for keeping me up to date, Sheila! I would never have known about the US and REdbook magazines without you!

charlotte, i'm now studying chemical engineering. i had put aside my plans to study software engineering or computers because i think it's not as fun as i thought. this course is also very tough. there's tonnes of assignments and it seems we have a test every week. i get very little sleep every night. sometimes i only sleep for 2-3 hours of sleep. anyway, i'm now building a kevin costner webring.i hope u can add ur site to the ring, charlotte. good costner pages are hard to find. btw, has everyone got the r copy of redbook?

charlotte, i'm now studying chemical engineering. i had put aside my plans to study software engineering or computers because i think it's not as fun as i thought. this course is also very tough. there's tonnes of assignments and it seems we have a test every week. i get very little sleep every night. sometimes i only sleep for 2-3 hours of sleep. anyway, i'm now building a kevin costner webring.i hope u can add ur site to the ring, charlotte. good costner pages are hard to find.the rul for the webring ho epage is http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Palace/5581 btw, has everyone got their copy of redbook?

charlotte, i'm now studying chemical engineering. i had put aside my plans to study software engineering or computers because i think it's not as fun as i thought. this course is also very tough. there's tonnes of assignments and it seems we have a test every week. i get very little sleep every night. sometimes i only sleep for 2-3 hours of sleep. anyway, i'm now building a kevin costner webring.i hope u can add ur site to the ring, charlotte. good costner pages are hard to find.the URL for the webring ho epage is http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Palace/5581 btw, has everyone got their copy of redbook?

The April issue of In Style magazine has a feature article titled "At Home With Nine Oscar Winners" Guess who is included? There is a photo of Kev with his Oscars with a short write up.

Amazing! How do you do it, Sheila? Do you get all this tasty info from the KC fanclub? I'm picking up In Style today! Thanks!

Always happy to share KC news with you Charlotte! This information came from the web (Redbook info came from fanclub) I am hearing a TENTATIVE video release date of Message in a Bottle for August-will keep you posted!

Charlotte: I was just testing all the links on Drool's main page and the one for your Kevin Costner page does not work. If you would like to provide the new url, I will change it. Thanks, Karen

Hmmmm... It should be http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/4772/kevin.html

And did you SEE him at the Oscar ceremonies last night? He presented the award for Best Director to Steven Spielberg, and he looked FABULOUS! (OF course, I am in no way biased on the subject.) And his daughter Anne, who was his date, was elegant and glamorous and looked wonderful on his arm.

(Charlotte) He presented the award for Best Director to Steven Spielberg, and he looked FABULOUS! (OF course, I am in no way biased on the subject.) Not you!;-p Honey, when he walked onstage, I actually groaned...he doesitto me everytime...

Did I see him at the Oscar's? Did I videotape him at the Oscar's? Yes! Yes! Yes! I was watching the broadcast in bed, and as it was getting quite late I was starting to doze off. However, even in my sleep my Costner antennae are ON and I was instantly alert the moment his name was announced. " I have been know to like long...... " grooooannn!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, typo "I have been known to like long..."

Kevin Costner appearance on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno February 19/99 will be repeated Monday April 19/99

http://www.freevote.com/booth/actorof1998 Vote for Kevin!

I saw Kevin in a golf tournament last weekend on tv, he was kidding around with Jack Nicholson, Will Smith, Joe Peshi (sp?) and they were all having a great time. What a contrast to the serious Masters tournament where the tension was thick, this was a bunch of big boys acting like little kids, having a great time.

Guess who illuminates the July issue of Cowboys & Indians? My friend just returned from Texas and spotted it in the airport and bought it for me. :) It's luscious! Shows off his freckles. :) Article title: The Resurrection of a Hollywood Golden Boy. Ahem, I don't recall his being DEAD! I'll try to get it scanned and post for y'all.

Here it is! http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/Kevin/kevin_cowboy.jpg

Sorry. Try this one: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/Set/4772/Kevin/kevin_cowboy.jpg

sigh. i've been away too long. i had forgotten how to do that. thanks for your patience.

Have you ladies seen the September issue of Biography magazine? Kevin's on the cover and there are a gazillion pictures from various movies. But the headshot on the Contents page is to die for. ;-D

I brought it home today. My best friend subscribes to Biography and gave it to me. Bedtime reading! :) Gotta find my old drool bib. Then man just keeps on getting hotter!

I thought you were Charlotte, the one who watches sci-fi when KC is not to be seen...Hi !

Yup! That's me! Don't watch much Sci-Fi these days, since Kevin is EVERYWHERE! :) Well, here in my house, at least. Hi backatcha, Marcia!

*grin* it is good to be in the safe confines of Drool where couthness reigns - or some such rot (they think that on the rest of the Spring, so we have to keep up appearances, dontcha know...*lol* Loved Field of Dreams. Every time it comes on I get hooked and watch it all the way through - AGAIN !

How about Rapa Nui and Waterworld?

I love baseball. John, you above all should know that. That is why I love FoD. I never saw Waterworld nor Rapa Nui, but there are some pretty important people around here who post a lot who did love Waterworld. No accounting for taste!

Then Marcia, you do NOT want to miss next month's release of For Love of the Game, Kevin's third baseball film.

I saw a trailer of For Love of Game months ago at the movies. What surprised me most was the use of The Natural's music and the stadium lighting shots as in that movie's climatic last at bat. What were they trying to do? Hope that they've reworked the trailers. Will make everyone think it's a ripoff.

I saw just Message in a Bottle and liked him ,but not that Robin Wright-Penn..pretty...but she can't act. Unlike The Postman" where I thought he had great chemistry with Olivia Williams. Yeah..I know...film too long. But lots of Kevin.:-)

From the NY Daily News: Kevin Costner has suffered the unkindest cut of all. Universal Pictures has circumcised his full-frontal shower scene in "For the Love of the Game." The actor has been bad-mouthing the studio since he found out that it edited out his priapian moment in the shower, as well as other scenes � primarily in an effort to shorten the movie's running time. Even so, the movie is more than two hours long. Last week Costner griped to Newsweek that Universal execs "don't want to talk to me." He accused them of lacking "real courage" by insisting that the baseball flick have a PG-13 rating. For Universal, he said, "this movie has always been about the length and the rating," never "the content." Although he insisted his complaints were not "purely narcissistic," Costner joked that audiences would be "hurt" by not getting a gander at his manhood. Universal now appears to be retaliating. Execs are putting the word out that a test audience in Arizona virtually demanded that Costner get the John Wayne Bobbitt treatment. "The audience giggled at Kevin's penis," one exec tells New York magazine. "Then, in focus groups, they said, 'Do we really need to see Kevin Costner's penis?'" New York women (and men) might have said, Yes! Alas, they'll have make do with rerunning a video of his young butt in "Dances With Wolves."

.....Do we really need to see Kevin Costner's penis?'" ....New York women (and men) might have said, Yes! I'm from New York...so I concur.... ...pox on the test audience in Arizona!!:-D

Sheesh!! No one ever asked me whether I wanted to see So & So's breasts!

Me either. Who is so and so? If you go to the internet movie database http://www.us.imdb.com you will see that all the early reviews by viewers, overwhelmingly male, love For the Love of the Game. That, despite KC's all too public sniping over the last several months with Universal, director Sam Raimi, and those who don't want/need to see his genitals. I am no fan of KC's alleged acting ability, but he sure does have an affinity for a great baseball movie. BTW, I love both Bull Durham and Field of Dreams. In fact, I show the latter to my English cla ses. Waterworld, Rapa Nui, and The Postman all basked in the mediocrity to ignominy those films deserve. All were Costner-driven vehicles. Dances With Wolves was wonderful, even if Kevin loves to lord his Best Picture (a director's award) over all who come in contact with him, and did not give his (former) good friend Kevin Reynolds the credit he deserved for assisting KC in the director's chair. Still, if KC made nothing but baseball movies, he'd be a consistent winner, eve as he grays (what the hell, Cal Ripken Jr. is gray). I guess if the new film is as terrific as its early reviews, there need be no bats visible that aren't woodburned with the "Louisville Slugger" brand. If Kevin really has the need to show the world his penis, he can pose in Playgirl, and those who drool can look as long as they wish without having to rewind *SMILE*.

John, the issue to me has always been "double standards." Showing any and all parts of a woman's body is rated PG-13 or R, whereas show a penis, and that gets you an NC-17 rating. Nudity in and of itself is not a draw for women (and I'm speaking very *broad*-ly here), but if the storyline calls for nudity by either sex, then sobeit. They shouldn't be discriminating by sex or favoring one over the other. Sometimes I wonder why there hasn't been a lawsuit, as female actresses are so regularly required t take it all off, whereas men never do. Blatant sexism. BTW, I will be seeing For Love of the Game tonight. I love Kevin's baseball films and many others. So what if he's not a great actor. He's very nice to watch.

I quite agree with Karen. I have no desire to see Kevin's penis. It's his face that I go to his films to see. It's the same face looking at me right now from 42 8 x 10 photographs hanging on the walls of my computer room. Likewise, I have no desire to see Gwynneth Paltrow's meagre breasts, but I had little choice. Kevin's alleged "sniping" at Universal might just as easily spring from his dissatisfaction with the film's LENGTH, which makes much more sense, since Kevin is notorious for his dislike of films being truncated to appease an attention-span-challenged audience. I think he would have vented just as strongly if they had left in the penis and cut out something else. Will there EVER come a time when Kevin will NOT be Hollywood's whipping boy?

....I quite agree with Karen. I have no desire to see Kevin's penis. So...close your eyes. :-)

Good one, Evelyn. Universal didn't want the movie to be rated "R" much less he dreaded "NC-17." I understand their concern. They have coughed up millions just for Kevin's salary alone, and many millions more for production, and they want their product (a dirty word to some, especially those who would call it art) viewed by the widest possible audience. Field of Dreams is a family movie;Bull Durham is not. Both are terrific movies, but the former is a classic. But I think the double sta dard is much more insidious than just who gets rated what for displaying which gender's genitals. Most movie nudity is put in to appease a public appetite for sex, not because it makes for a better storyline. I don't care if a movie has nudity or not, except when I wish to show it to a high school classroom (most of whom have seen someone live of the opposite gender nude more recently than I have). If I really have to see someone nude in a film, I'll rent a porno video. There may or may not come a tim when KC will not be--as Charlotte puts it--Hollywood's whipping boy. But because he's a male star, he can go on his public ego rants--justifiable or not--as long as he wants, even through three big budget flops. Back in the 80s, Debra Winger got an equally publicized rap for being difficult. Despite the fact that she is a more talented actor than KC, and just like KC, believes that she was arguing for a better product, she's been ostracized and her career, if she still has one, has been in a tailspin.

I don�t know about KCostner fans but if Colin Firth showed everything in a film I�d be very sad and wouldn�t want to see....it would probably be the end of my fan-aticism. I think it would only indicate that he has lost his self-respect as an actor.

I don�t know about KCostner fans but if Colin Firth showed everything in a film I�d be very sad and wouldn�t want to see....it would probably be the end of my fan-aticism. I think it would only indicate that he has lost his self-respect as an actor. Oooo, Elena. As I read that, I came all over peculiar. You are so high minded. I think I shall have to rent out Playmaker and gaze through.....now which glass panel of the shower was it? Sorry .... wrong board.....but you provoked me;-)))

(John) Most movie nudity is put in to appease a public appetite for sex *cough* bullshit *cough* My opinion is that most movie nudity is due to the male director believing himself to be some kind of auteur artiste and wanting to see the actresses take it all off. They are pandering to the ticket-buying public of post-pubescent boys. not because it makes for a better storyline. I never said "better." ;-D Debra Winger got an equally publicized rap for being difficult. Despite the fact that she is a more talented actor than KC You gotta be kidding! Or do you just like her deep voice? (Charlotte) Likewise, I have no desire to see Gwynneth Paltrow's meagre breasts, but I had little choice. Speaking of Gwynnie's pippins, I remember a lot of the press about her nudity in SiL. It was couched in words of praise, specifically mentioning the fact that now she had graduated into serious work by doing the nude scenes. Where was Joe's pip? I don't go to movies for nudity, but I'm an equal opportunity viewer.

I like your choice of films, Allison. ;-D

....I think I shall have to rent out Playmaker and gaze through.....now which glass panel of the shower was it? It was artistically v. fundamental for Ross Talbott to take a shower in that movie and to come out in the buff.... of "kolossal" importance to the storyline too. :-D

You are so high minded. Oh, by all means have a laugh at my "high-mindedness" Allison but I meant sincerely what I said.

Elena, I don't think Allison or anybody is laughing at your views. Actually, most of us would agree with you in many ways. A little mystery is always good. Like the Arizona test audience, we don't *need* to see Kevin's penis or anybody else's for that matter. (horrible images in my mind of Harvey Keitel in The Piano...can there be anything less sexy than a flaccid penis??) However, we do like to fantacize and catching glimpses (or imagining glimpses) can be better than the real thing. ;-D

horrible images in my mind of Harvey Keitel in The Piano I�ve seen it at least twice but I don�t remember seeing any sort of penis in it, my mind must have deleted it?! imagining glimpses) can be better than the real thing In CF�s case the real thing must be better than any imagined glimpses though :-D (Okay I�m badly off topic here, sorry Kevin fans!)

In CF�s case the real thing must be better than any imagined glimpses though :-D Agreed, but I was pretending to be more couth than I actually am! ;-D You're talking to a member of the "I've seen Nessie" club!! I�ve seen it at least twice but I don�t remember seeing any sort of penis in it, my mind must have deleted it?! It was very small, easy to miss. ;-D

Well, Elena. I think I was heartily agreeing with you when I said in an earlier post that I had no desire to see KC's penis. And yes, if it ever does appear onscreen, I will likely close my eyes, Evelyn, given enough warning. I believe it would be futile to debate in this forum the measure of KC's acting talent against Ms. Winger's or anyone else's. It's equivalent to debating if chocolate ice-cream is better than strawberry. Each viewer will formulate his own opinions. I have always maintained that KC is a mediocre, albeit an improving, actor. But it has never been his skill at the craft that appeals to me. Beyond the face, I admire his diligence, his integrity, his love for his children, his charisma and his courage. For skill, I go look for Ralph Fiennes or Anthony Hopkins. And I do miss Debra Winger. She isn't Meryl Streep, but she has her own flavor of charisma that was always a joy to watch.

Evelyn, we have a date to see whatever there is of him. I am from New York (many years ago, now) and we never lose our need to know and see...and touch if we are lucky! ;)

Costner is in the groove!! Kev delivers the heat!! I've just come back from seeing "For Love of the Game" and it's a wonderful baseball movie and the love story portion worked for me. The audience adored it. You know when a sports film works when the audience is on the edge of its collective seat and breaks out in applause when various plays are made during the game. The movie is closer to The Natural with a lot of Bull Durham (although no kitchen table or bathtub scenes). While it came in at slightly over 2 hrs (maybe by 10 minutes), there wasn't a boring bit at all. Yes, of course, any and all baseball movies are formulaic, but this one had you wondering whether they were going to do something (but I won't say what). So they were successful in keeping up the suspense. I liked that the action basically takes place over the course of ONE game, with flashback sequences. That is one helluva game and Kev throws one helluva good game. Charlotte (and Nan, if you're out there), you are going to love it. Guys will love it as well because the baseball is great. Hey! The movie IS shorter than a baseball game!! ;-D

And I have a bunch of the posters (smaller sized)....

See, I knew that Kev didn't have to deliver the meat to deliver the heat in a baseball movie. He played baseball for Cal-State Northridge...it's just a "Natural" (sorry, Roy Hobbs).

Wait until you hear question no. 3 (hee hee)

Oooh, I gotta see it. Love baseball, and loved FoD. As for Northridge, that is where O'O's brother and family lives...and the earthquake happened. hmmm...! (but it would have been interesting like in HOTPig and TA, if they had had two different versions for the truly curious and for the rest of you!)

Good Picture, Karen. Thanks!!! Can't wait to hear it all!

John, do you think O'O would let you go see it with me?!?

It was fun seeing the roles reversed from Bull Durham. At one point toward the end (9th inning to be precise), he's talking to himself about the batter and says something like "don't think, just throw like you've done millions of time before." Remember Crash's words to whatshisname?

I can't figure out where the beef scene would have been. All evidence of it has been excised. Maybe when he gets his massage, the towel is lifted... ;-D

Nuke Laloosh (played by the brilliant Tim Robbins). I'd love to go see the movie. Maybe I could go with both of you...I don't think that Ray would believe there's anything between us, but I haven't seen his "O" side, and don't want to.

His best parts were left on the cutting room floor?! Alas! Auwe! How Ghastly!

It was supposed to have been a full frontal shower scene.

I'm bummed!!!

Nice pics, Karen. They don't want to make me drool, but do want to make me see the movie. It doesn't open here until Friday, and I'm broke until Monday (payday).

Nuke!! of course. Was going to get the tape out, but am lazy... Marcia, this isn't a FoD. It's a Bull Durham-The Natural crossbreed.

Nice pics, Karen. They don't make me want to drool, but do make me want to see the movie. Unfortunately, it doesn't open in this beautiful little one-horse town until Friday...and I won't have the $$$$ until Monday (payday for both my jobs).

I saw it for free. Shower scene? There weren't any. Wonder if it was a locker room shower scene or one with Kelly...

John, you convince Ray to let you take me and I pay for everything!

OoooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOoooOOoooooooOoooooooooooHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Nice!

Great pics!

Would I have to convince him I'm gay? Maybe the "Weird Walt" would do that.

Listen, if he thinks the seemingly never been anything'd forbidden fruit person is a threat, who knows. But, I am sure he would think you a friend rather than a threat...I think...(who knows?!) That man is so odd about these things.

I could lend you a silky scarf with which to gesticulate as you read the Ballad of Weird Walt to him. You did thay you had a peech impediment, no?!

If he considers someone as innocuous as Alton (brilliant yes, but no threat) a threat...I don't wish to risk his wrath. Remember, despite our friendship, I do like him, as well.

I just saw the Postman, I liked it just like I liked Waterworld. It has kind of the same fascination. And Costner always has interesting female costars.

Good pics Karen, thanks.He does look dreamy. So, you let the Arizona audience dictate what you can see in Chicago, uh? Too bad....we coulda'had a spirited discussion .....:-D

So, you let the Arizona audience dictate what you can see in Chicago, uh? Where'd you get that idea? ;-D I liked the movie "as-is." Whether I thought the shower scene in full-frontedness worked is moot, as we will never see it. Come to think of it, I don't recall seeing any of the ballplayers *adjusting* themselves. Hey, this was a sanitized movie!!

Showing the beef...must be "in" This from Reuters review of SUNSHINE starring Ralph Fiennes..... Re: RF "....Yet for all his physical fearlessness (two sequences include full frontal nudity, and some of the sex is rough), there are more sparks than fire, leaving an essential void and chill where the passion should be." (Wonder if the "rough sex" is with JE?)

Do you mean we have to look at more of RF than we have already seen in TEP? Yeesh!!!

Not until it comes out on video. I'd bet that Sunshine, much like the solar commodity it was named after, doesn't even make it to Hilo. Haven't even heard of the movies, and Reuters is a European news service. Is "JE" Jenna Elfman?

Nope! Jennifer Ehle, CF's co-star in P&P2

(She is also Rosemary Harris' daughter)

Didn't see P&P2 and don't know who either Jennifer Ehle or Rosemary Harris is. Am not much for Austen (or most Gothic novelists). My ignorance shows, but I did ask, so thank you for the answer.

Evelyn will be delighted to get out her pictures! JE is not as rare in the theater and movies as one might think...and you missed something truly wonderful when you passed up P&P2. May I lend you the video? I would be delighted to, and it is not a chick-flick!

That I WOULD have to see to believe.

BTW, before I get totally crucified here, I have seen WOMEN'S MOVIES and BOOKS that I HAVE enjoyed...Waiting to Exhale and The Joy Luck Club come to mind immediately. I generally find British romantic drama dreary, although I love their comedy, but if you recommend it, Marcia, I will rent or borrow it and try to view it with as open mind as possible (considering I am equipped with the "dumb stick").

OK, next volleyball game (if you do not sleep through it) I will hand one of my precious copies (I have many including an all Firth tape of DROOL passages from the movie.)

I'll pass on the Firthian drool, but the movie itself, I'll watch.

and btw, Austen is not a *gothic* novelist; just so you don't make that mistake in the future Trust me, you (Mr. Mariah Carey or was it Jennifer Lopez Fan??) will like Jennifer's assets. :-D

Thank you for correcting my continued ignorance. I am truly humbled in your presence.

Spring is very educational. We believe in having a well-rounded education, even if we hardly set foot outside the sacred halls of Drool. ;-D

Lizzie's attributes almost fall into your lap as you watch, do they not?! ('twas Mariah Carey)

Karen, it is not as user friendly "out there." People attack one another and not always with a smile. I am always happy to retreat to the sanctity of Drool.

And I'll gladly retreat my ignorance outside the sacred sanctity of your hallowed halls. I was incorrect--check that--wrong to lump Austen with the other romance novelists of her period (whom she paroied in Northanger Abbey), but beyond that, I don't know what made me think I might have something to contribute. Beyond my boot-licking, crow eating humility, my apologies as well. Aloha. :-)

If you're logged on to the Spring right now, go to our website and see a *live* video of Kevin Costner at his world movie permiere. I'm not kidding, we're webcasting this event as it occurs.

Auggie Garrido, our UT baseball coach is responsible for getting Costner and this premiere to Austin last night. In the interviews, Garrido said Costner threw every pitch in the movie, and had no doubles. The movie got a great review in the morning paper and a mixed review on Sammy and Bobs radio show. Bob liked it, Sammy hated it. The paper said oddball, foreign movie enthusiasts will hate it, mainstream moviegoers will love it. It will have to be great to beat Bull Durham. Opening everywhere else tonight.

Both Chicago critics (Ebert & Wilmington) gave it a bad review. Ebert hated the baseball and the love story; Wilmington, the love story. These guys are too jaded up there in Toronto watching festival films. Ha!!

Poor John Burnett! Come back.....

The Oscars (impressions): First impression: J Lo's form fitting top was not quite see through. J. Lo on the red carpet: Angelina Joie looked cool but I expected her to be escorted by John Long for Billy Joe Thornton. What was Danny DeVito eating? A carrot? That was funny when Steve Martin sent him down some dip from the stage. Worst dressed and worst singer: Bjork, who wore a huge, limp swan. On second thought, wasn't that Kevin Costner sitting next to Angelina Jolie? Biggest dissappointment: Joan Allen and Ellen Burstyn not winning.