Thanks Marcia! Your so sweet. I am still dying with laughter over the 'come to bed' clip. I woke up my cat i was laughing so hard. :)

Oh good, they got there! I am in chat with you and you are not hitting the reload button.

come back!!! I am in chat SBR

I am back in chat again and again. waiting

Wav.files, Marcia?I'm interested too!

I have all sorts of them. I shall send one at a time as they take a while to up-and-download. Do you want just the speaking ones or do you also want the theme and very end of P&P2's music? To open and close Windows, of course! will send some straight away.

Gi, they are on their way via AOL. Tell me what other sorts you'd like to have.

Thank you, Marcia, I think I'm downloading them now... But the stupid connection crashes all the time! Did you get the pic I sent you?

It is here and I am absolutely thrilled to have a live CF picture. Thanks so much. I am all smiles and happiness right now.

Did a power viewing of P&P the other night. Oh, that Mr. Darcy (who is that actor who plays him?) We often talk about scenes we wish they would have included. This time I thought of how I would have changed the scenes if I had been the director. For instance: Don't you wish when Lizzy and Darcy are taking their final walk Darcy would have taken off his hat? It was such a windy day, wouldn't the scene be more affecting to see those curls blowing as he tells her his feelings and wishes have not changed. Give him a more boyish look since he's at his most vulnerable. When he comes to call at Hunsford when Mrs. Collins and Maria have gone to the village, don't you wish they had pulled their chairs closer to each other. I suppose from that long shot we're supposed to see the distance between them but I hate that at some moments, practically all I can see of Darcy are his legs and nose. And when he comes upon her at Pemberley after his dip. Why didn't he undo all three of his buttons? That last one is just straining to come undone and I just want to reach into that telly and oblige it. Please know that I'm just kidding. The production is near perfection but I've seen it too many times.

Heide, I have wished he never had that hat on all through the movie. He should have removed it and placed it over his heart. Oh Yeah!!!

Why didn't he undo all three of his buttons? Oh yes, WHY, WHY?? ---------Maybe to make us want to undo them, the strained one at least! You know, the movie is so clever in all its subtle sexy hints that this button thing might also be very carefully planned. Actually it�s much sexier this way, showing more of his chest would just ruin the thrill, at least for me it would. He�s supposed to be vulnerable in this episode....and at the same time you�re allowed to see what a desirable thing he is.

After pondering the button opening problem I have come to the conclusion that knowing how powerfully effective his presence would be on us; in the living rooms of the world, in front of dogs, cats, birds, relatives, small children and husbands who just would not understand it was probably prudent that they left those buttons just the way they were. Every woman with eyes could see, in Elena's words, what a desirable thing his is!!! Whew!

(Marcia) He should have removed it (hat) and placed it over his heart. Oh Yeah!!! Lovely effect. That hat sometimes gave his face a squashed appearance. I so prefer him without it especially when that errant lock of hair falls onto the forehead. And don't you wish instead of Lizzy saying, "in fact, they're quite the opposite." she would have said, "in fact, I've fallen in love with you." Yes, I know that would be very bold but JA never does tell us exactly what Lizzy says. Hmmm, yes, Elena and Marcia, I suppose you've given valid reasons for keeping that last button closed on his wet shirt. We all would have come undone had it been released. Don't you wish when Darcy comes across Lizzy walking muddied across the fields to Netherfield and he smirkingly gestures for her to go before him, that he would have just stopped for a moment or two longer and watched her walk away from him, giving her an appraising look from behind?

(Heide)I suppose you've given valid reasons for keeping that last button closed on his wet shirt Alas, 'Twas only a reason they did it, not my choice at all. Sigh upon sigh!!! He was so incredibly beautiful striding across the flatland before descending to the lake to meet up with Lizzie. When my hair gets wet, I look like a drown rat! He looks so incredibly...(put your own word here)...!!!

(Heide)Don't you wish when Darcy comes across Lizzy walking muddied across the fields to Netherfield and he smirkingly gestures for her to go before him, that he would have just stopped for a moment or two longer and watched her walk away from him, giving her an appraising look from behind? Oh, I think he drank her all in...slurp,slurp. The guy was drooling. *** How I wish they would have published a screenplay of P&P.

(Heide) The production is near perfection But it is still debatable how near... ;-)

(Heide) Don't you wish when Lizzy and Darcy are taking their final walk Darcy would have taken off his hat? In this scene, I'm always dying for Lizzy to take his arm as they continue to walk down the road. After he makes his "Dearest, lovliest Elizabeth" speech it just cries out to me that they need a gesture of their increased intimacy. Just a small, proper gesture, mind you ;-) And I will fall asleep tonight thinking of that straining button. Phew!

(Jana) After he makes his "Dearest, lovliest Elizabeth" speech it just cries out to me that they need a gesture of their increased intimacy. Just a small, proper gesture, mind you ;-) I know exactly what you mean. He doesn't even hold her hand. They continue to walk down the road with arms hanging listlessly at their sides. That's why I always wished they did the scenes after the engagement in the movie, where Lizzy asks Darcy when he fell in love with her. I think you would have seen a little more intimacy of looks at least between them, especially as she teases him mercilessly.

(Karen) I know exactly what you mean. He doesn't even hold her hand. They continue to walk down the road with arms hanging listlessly at their sides. Oh yes, I agree. Back when I first saw it, I remember thinking "he's not going to kiss her? But they *have* to kiss!" I imagine it was done purposely to keep the tension until that rather benign post-nuptial kiss; in JA's time it would not have been at all proper. Left me feeling rather high and dry, though! ...where Lizzy asks Darcy when he fell in love with her Yes, good one. Another missing scene I would have liked to see was at Rosings, when Lizzy kept meeting Darcy on her walks. In one encounter he asks her "a series of odd, unconnected questions." That would have been fun! (Evelyn) Oh, I think he drank her all in...slurp,slurp. The guy was drooling. Isn't this the scene in which Andrew Davies gave Colin a particular stage direction? ;-)

No, I believe that was The Look scene at Pemberley.

Hmm, not according to Bridget Jones' interview (if that can be believed)! There was something about Lizzy being all sweaty... ;-D

(Evelyn) Oh, I think he drank her all in...slurp,slurp. The guy was drooling. Isn't this the scene in which Andrew Davies gave Colin a particular stage direction? ;-) No, I believe that was The Look scene at Pemberley. I always thought it was after his bath as he is gazing out the window. ***** (Eileen)There was something about Lizzy being all sweaty... ;-D When was Lizzy sweaty...don't remember that.

(Evelyn)When was Lizzy sweaty...don't remember that. Sure you do. It was when had she has hiked 3 miles!!! to see Jane at Netherfield. She arrived with a dirty petticoat and just oozing pheramones. Only the men noted how wonderful she looked and the "ladies" noted the dirt!

(Marcia) She arrived with a dirty petticoat and just oozing pheramones. Only the men noted how wonderful she looked and the "ladies" noted the dirt! Oh yes!! Love the way it's described in the book "The Making...." Andrew Davies says she arrives "she's so full of whatever chemicals are released by healthful exercise and the chaps unconsciously respond to it." Bingley: I thought she looked remarkably well Darcy: her eyes were brightened by the exercise. Oh dear, I made a mistake in my button counting. He only has his top button undone when wet at Pemberley. He really could have undone that second one (ala after writing the letter to Lizzy at Rosings) and still kept the third one closed. I demand a re-shoot!

Bingley: I thought she looked remarkably well Darcy: her eyes were brightened by the exercise. Only I bet he wasn't just lookin' at her eyes :-)

(Haide). He really could have undone that second one (ala after writing the letter to Lizzy at Rosings) and still kept the third one closed. I demand a re-shoot! LOL. Heide...we know a thing or two about tidal waves out here and you do not want to risk that in the living room. Closed space and all. Frighten the dogs and small children! But, he would have been fantastic striding with that second button undone. Oh gasp! Pant...drooling copiously just thinking how (loss for words) he looked anyway in that scene!!! (Evelyn)Only I bet he wasn't just lookin' at her eyes, LOL again! When *did* he look at just her eyes. It seems that each time he saw her he reacquainted himself with every detail of her anatomy that he could...and noticed the eyes, too, eventually!

(Eileen) Hmm, not according to Bridget Jones' interview (if that can be believed)! Well, HF said at her book signing that she really interviewed him... Maybe she stretched the truth a bit, though :-).

(Jana)Well, HF said at her book signing that she really interviewed him... Yes, I read that over at 80 (I think that's the right number). HF was pretending to be BJ and CF was pretending to be FD. I would have paid money to be there (EG as EG!!). My prior speculation about which scene it was: those mentioned above (bath, *look*). I thought it might have been their verbal volleyball at Netherfield, when they're talking about eachother's weaknesses. Hmm, bet there was more than one!! I'm gonna have to watch this again!

(Eileen)My prior speculation about which scene it was: those mentioned above (bath, *look*). I thought it might have been their verbal volleyball at Netherfield, when they're talking about each other's weaknesses. Hmm, bet there was more than one!! LOL. To be sure, Mr. Darcy didn't need Viagra!!

Eileen, when you go checking for the "likely" scenes, and if you have slo-mo on your playback, check out his look when he is espying her from the sidelines at the Netherfield Ball as she is escorted into the room by Wickham's friend. There is definitely something going on. I have seen that look!!! Poor Darcy, if someone had slipped him Viagra, we should not have torn our eyes away yet!

I know the look you mean, Marcia--the slight double take. It's one of my rewind moments! If Darcy took Viagra, he would have exploded. Darcy is Viagra!

Oh Yea verily!!!! The man is indeed Viagra...he works for me!!! How clever you are this morning, my dear =)

Yup, the old double take at Netherfield is it. And in super slo-mo there is a range of facial distortions only made a certain times by men. He is doing a good job of "pretending"...Awesome!!!

I loved catching up on all your "straining " posts, and having also discovered Eileen's fabulous COTTAGE fanfic, it is enough to send a girl running to whip out her video forthwith.

Did anyone else feel compelled to watch it again asap after their Donmar experience? I couldn't really believe that we had really met Darcy at all and soon slipped back to my old approach when watching it. However I really did identify so much more with the way he MOVED as Darcy ( not that it hadn't registered enormously before!!) but it is the way he uses his body, and that seemed to me to be the link with what i had seen on stage. One of my favourites is when he happens on Lizzie at Netherfield after she has walked over to see how Jane is. He walks ahead of her in that wonderful long coat and the loose, long limbed way he moves,the effect heightened by the garment, seems just vaguely familiar to me. it is one of the things I love best about his acting.

(Lizza)...long limbed way he moves, That Darcy walk was v. apparent with Walker in 3 DOR when he ran up the stairs ( as in Rosings aft the 1st proposal) and walked with the long strides (as at Pemberley). I found a lot of Darcy mannerisms (probably CF mannerisms) in 3 DOR. On Friday night when K& I were waiting for him to arrive, I immediately recognized the long strides he took from the taxi to the lobby and the back of his head.We found him casually looking at the photos in the lobby. BTW, did Renate succeed in getting the lobby photos? I bet the photographer would give them to thecolinfirth.com website. They like to have their work on the web.

(Eileen) If Darcy took Viagra, he would have exploded. (Lizza) I really did identify so much more with the way he MOVED as Darcy ...but it is the way he uses his body, Good Lord, girls. I know you don't mean to but you're getting me all hot and bothered. There are Darcy mannerisms in every film I've ever seen him in (except for Camille, Evelyn :-P)and they were noticeable on stage too. But as someone said earlier (Karen?), we realize now they're Colin's mannerisms. And to think then how much of Mr. Darcy is Colin. Though he would deny it, the devil. (Evelyn) On Friday night when K& I were waiting for him to arrive, I immediately recognized the long strides he took from the taxi to the lobby and the back of his head. I can still hear you say oh so quietly, "There he is!". Gives me chills. Karen and I were chattering away and probably would have missed him completely but never that stride.

(Heide)There are Darcy mannerisms in every film I've ever seen him in and they were noticeable on stage too. But as someone said earlier (Karen?), we realize now they're Colin's mannerisms. And to think then how much of Mr. Darcy is Colin. Though he would deny it, the devil. Absolutely. If he only knew that we know him better than he knows himself ;-)

(Heidi) Don't you wish when Lizzy and Darcy are taking their final walk Darcy would have taken off his hat? It was such a windy day, wouldn't the scene be more affecting to see those curls blowing as he tells her his feelings and wishes have not changed. I couldnt agree more! I'm such a sucker for those gorgeous curls! And I'm now off to fight traffic and rush home to watch tape 2 (or one scene inparticular) in slowmo! Thanks for the tip Marcia!

SBR you have identified the one bit that bugs me ENORMOUSLY in the whole production. The aerial shot after the proposal might well have been done BEFORE of the 4 of them walking up the lane. Not only is there no hat off but they are so far apart from each other that you could drive a coach and horses between them, it is totally unrealistic. I have simmered about this for years, honestly what were Simon and Andrew thinking of?

That is coupled with the fact that some of my favouite exchanges in the book were cut out, in fact from then (proposal scene) until the Wedding, so much that i adore never appears in the script. Still you can't have everything in life as WE know!!!

I would have liked included the dinner at Longbourn, why would they omit it?

So they could put in the bits that JA never wrote!!!

But, Ladies!! You would not be so compelled to write those lovely stories if Jane Austen had filled in all the gaps. There are sequels she could have written to keep her in tea and scones for the rest of her life! But, I would not have the pleasure of knowing the author as well as I know you =) The thing I did notice as they walked on after the proposal and the arial shots was that his arm and her arm were brushing by eachother when before they had walked with their arms behind them. I guess that was all they were going to allow us - we who fervently wished for a hat removal and a chaste lip kiss to seal their love. **!sigh!**

You would not be so compelled to write those lovely stories if Jane Austen had filled in all the gaps. Poor JA, I don't think she knew how to fill in the gaps!! (At least in the matter we've filled them ;-D )

She probably could have guessed at the gaps, but our Ladies are Soooo good at filling in the gasps =D THAT, JA would most likely not have known anything about!

--Oh, you might be surprised what those spinsters were aware of in those days!! --To me, one of the most serious omissions of the series (because it's so funny)was the abrupt about-face Mrs. Bennett makes re: Darcy--from totally detesting him to singing his wonderful attributes--once she realises that that impressive ten-thousand-a-year will soon be part of the family. I had truly been looking forward to that...and was sore disappointed!!

I believe they did film them kissing after his proposal on their walk. After he says: If it had not been for you my.... but they decided to edit it out. They wanted to save the big kiss for the end. Maybe they will put together all the edited pieces to the original once a big P&P2 anniversay comes round. :-D

Your right KJArt, I also wanted that scene with Mrs. Bennet.

Well, we all know that they saved the kiss because it was the climax of the whole series. What they didn't realize was we wanted to see more than one kiss!!! Still and all, they could have done with some actual contact. Why couldn't she at least have taken his arm after his second proposal? There's so little contact, we get all dizzy when they accidentally bump into each other as they continue their walk. See, we don't ask for much. That scene you mention, Moon, "if it had not been for you...", that would have been the perfect spot for a kiss. He's looking at her so intently and almost stops walking, ducks his head just a bit as she looks up at him. Then she coyloy drops her eyes and the moment is lost. That was it!

LOL! You girls want more (and who doesn�t, I agree with everything above about the obvious missing scenes and deeds) but if there was more sex in P&P, it would not be such an utterly sexy movie!! It deliberately leaves you longing for something ;-) and having to fantasize the rest. When I watched it the firth time I really was disappointed with the second proposal and that idle walking along the lane, I felt the episode was not very good, it left me cold. I still think it could have been a bit better, it lacks WARMTH. Btw, who says there was a kiss that was cut off later?? Seems unlikely, I think the whole episode is carefully planned to keep all passion under cover and only in the minds of the audience.

--The warm exchanges AFTER the engagement could have supplied a certain measure of satisfaction that they were settling into one another...they let that go too. And my favorite reference to Darcy "really loving the Gardners" to illustrate his reform from prideful attitudes wouldn't have hurt, either!

I'm not talking about sex, Elena, I'm talking about a kiss! Now I don't mean that a kiss was cut out (though I'd love to see what was left on the cutting room floor). But it almost looks at that moment that if she would have kept his eye for another second, he just might have leaned over for one. Written into the script? Or just a fanciful notion? Watch for yourselves. -The warm exchanges AFTER the engagement could have supplied a certain measure of satisfaction Yes indeedy..and my favorite line is taken out. When Elizabeth asks him when he fell in love with her he says, "I was in the middle before I knew I had begun." I love that line - so romantic. So from Davies' viewpoint, when do you think Darcy was in the middle of loving her before he knew he had begun?

(Heide)So from Davies' viewpoint, when do you think Darcy was in the middle of loving her before he knew he had begun? "On foot?" would be my guess ;-) but I'd have to go watch the whole thing again. What a happy thought! :-)

(Heide), I'm not talking about sex, Elena, I'm talking about a kiss! Now I don't mean that a kiss was cut out (though I'd love to see what was left on the cutting room floor). But it almost looks at that moment that if she would have kept his eye for another second, he just might have leaned over for one. Written into the script? Or just a fanciful notion? Watch for yourselves. I agree, and I believe it is stated in the book the Making of P&P, that they did shot a scene(the very one here), at that moment he did kiss her, but it was edited out. The DVD P&P version someone at VV says is 12 min. longer. I wonder... So from Davies' viewpoint, when do you think Darcy was in the middle of loving her before he knew he had begun? When she leaves Netherfield and he looks out at the carriage, the expression on his face said quite a lot.

So from Davies' viewpoint, when do you think Darcy was in the middle of loving her before he knew he had begun? Hmm, good question. It would have to be sometime at Netherfield. "On foot?"--Too early. "They were brightened by the exercise?" or the "perfect woman" argument? or the "yours is to willfully misunderstand them" debate?--Perhaps. Since we're specifically talking about Daviesviewpoint, I'll wager it's when he looked out the window after his bath.

So from Davies' viewpoint, when do you think Darcy was in the middle of loving her before he knew he had begun? Since he can't remember when it started,.. has to be sometime during Netherfield....IMO (unconsciously) when he says:Ref. to Georgianna "She's about as tall as Miss Elizabeth Bennett".

"The middle" is a highly reletive term. But as they played the Andrew Davies script, it is at Sir Wm. Lucas' party...That stare after her "fine eyes"--it was enough for me to spontaneously exclaim "GOTTCHA!!!" at the screen--that definitely demarked the starting point...

In "Picture the Scene" by Andrew Davies from the London Times 15 Sept 1995 he says it is when, after their very first meeting and he makes disparaging remarks about her which she overhears, he does a double take as she walks by. I think that is when he first fell for her, but was eagerly underway to the point of pain upon her leaving Netherfield with Jane after Jane's recovery. He was all hers from then on! (IMHO, of course!)

Whoops!! Re the kiss, there was SO much fuss here about the number of retakes they had to do in the carriage for the kiss and that our DB did "seem" flustered by the end, it was only then that crew etc realised something was going on with CF and JE. I am inclined to think it was just convienient publicity material!!

BTW I once nearly married Sir Wm Lucas' nephew, and for some years counted it as a lucky escape, however when P&P came out I realised that he would have had his uses after all!!!

( Lizza)BTW I once nearly married Sir Wm Lucas' nephew, Wow . Nice to know people in high places!!!Did he look like Sir William?? **** The Kiss: In an interview Colin said not true...about the 30 takes and "bruised lips". **** At the Red Lion Inn Assembly:... he does a double take as she walks by...I think that is when he first fell for her, I thought he did a double take because he didn't realize she had overheard him and her cheeky look gave him every indication that she had!! You really think it was love at first sight...before she even spoke to him...insulted him...fought with him?

I'd be willing to say that he was falling for her when she gave him that cheeky look but he'd never call it love. Actually, I don't think he realized he was in love until Rosings and by then he was already "in the middle" of it. I think he fought it all the time at Netherfield - thought this fancy would pass when he was away from her. Then bang - he sees her again and he realizes he's completely lost. I'll date it at the piano scene. Lizza, do tell more about Sir William's nephew!! Did you ever meet Sir WIlliam himself? ;-)

(Heide)..I don't think he realized he was in love until Rosings I think you are correct, Heide. And they were at Rosings for a month or two...weren't they? They would have met often at Lady Catherine's,he did viist her and we know he stalked her on her walks.

(Heide)..I don't think he realized he was in love until Rosings. I see your point. That's when he knew he was in love, although it began much earlier. One look at Darcy during their first meeting in Kent (at the parsonage, when Mr. Collins is prattling on and Colonel Fitzwilliam is talking to Lizzy) and you can tell. I read it was at Rosings when Darcy began a period of "pursuing and rejecting her at the same time."

at the parsonage, when Mr. Collins is prattling on and Colonel Fitzwilliam is talking to Lizzy Up to that time no one else had been interested in Lizzy and at Rosings, he must have noticed that Colonel Fitzwilliam paid an inordinate amount of attention to her.And she to him.Nothing like a little competition to spur a guy on!

IMHO...1) She acquired his interest at the Meryton dance. 2) He was already hooked at Sir Wm. Lucas' party beyond the point of no return...he just spent the rest of the time between that and Rosings in denial and self-delusion. 3) I'm sure Col. Fitzwilliam's interest spurred his determination to face up to it at last and yield to this irresistible attraction.

Precisely Right, My dear Karen J.

There was an interesting thread at ROP a week or two back. I would have posted my thoughts because it was a cute topic and piqued my interest but it had already run its course by the time I saw it. It went something like this...why are the men so godawful ugly at the Meryton assembly? Actually it seems like all the Meryton men are missing some genes somewhere. Is it to make Darcy, Bingley, Wickham even more desirable? What do you think and who are some of your favorite dancers at the local parties? Is it any wonder Charlotte was an old maid considering her choices? Who in the world would Jane and Elizabeth have married if the rich folk hadn't come to town?

(Heide)...why are the men so godawful ugly at the Meryton assembly Just the men? Women too...'cept for Lizzie:-) (I'm ducking...you'll never get me...nevah!)

Actually it seems like all the Meryton men are missing some genes somewhere. Is it to make Darcy, Bingley, Wickham even more desirable? LOL! Most definitely. Also, the men had to be short to make Darcy appear taller (in the book JA makes him sound like a giant).

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Not only do I wish the screenplay had been published, but also a video of all the outtakes. I can only imagine what ended up on the editing room floor-exactly how many smouldering looks did we miss. I always thought the engagement to the wedding was much too rushed. It's almost like they put it together and found it was getting to be too long so they just decided to not piut in a bunch of scenes at the end. I really miss the wonderful scenes and dialog from the book that relate to their engagment. In addition to the screenplay and out-takes I think some poseable figures would have been nice.:-)) The marketing people really missed a money-making opportunity. Hum.......maybe some Lizzy and Darcy dress-up dolls........the possiblities seem endless.

In addition to the screenplay and out-takes I think some poseable figures would have been nice. LOL!!! You are SO right! :) I can see it now, "Lizzy and Darcy action figures- collect them all!" And of course, doll houses in the shape of Longbourn and Pemberly (where else would they live?) You know, this has real potential! Maybe someone should contact MacDonald and we could see if we can get them into Happy Meals or something :)

(S B Robinson)Maybe someone should contact MacDonald and we could see if we can get them into Happy Meals or something :) LOL! I'd become a hamburger and coke addict in two days!

Can you imagine the shattered decorum of MacDonald's as one too many Darcy fans get yet another Mr Collins and Wickham? Perhaps in a town such as Hilo which has more than one outlet, let the Wickham/Lydia fans go to the one decked out as an unmade bed in dingiest London, and the Fans of the Merytonians get the homely dolls with the awful wigs in a shop adorned with horse-troughs and muddy streets, etc. Think of the price wars as the Darcy shop outsells hamburgers 100 to one of the others, and some go en irely without sales at all! BTW, Is there a fan page for Wickham and Lydia? Or, ala Barbie and Ken, we can do Lizzie and Darcy with houses, horses, servants, ponds, carriages and relatives sold separately?! SBR, you have piqued my tired little imagination!

I love the Lizzy and Darcy as Ken and Barbie idea, then they can dressed and undressed them at will-maybe act out some of fanfic at #34. :-)) The thought of all those outfits and all those accessories,makes me heart beat faster. I miss my Barbie days. Unfortunately, I only have sons. They like sports and dirt.

(Sue)I miss my Barbie days. Unfortunately, I only have sons. They like sports and dirt. I know...I know! Been there and had the same dirt and sports! But they are cute =)

when SO hurries one, that is what happens. Sorry!

(Sue)I miss my Barbie days. Unfortunately, I only have sons. They like sports and dirt. ROTFLOL! How adorable...having no kids of my own, I'm always fascinated by the most trivial aspects of their lives--adventures in dirt included! BTW, a former Prof. of mine (a well-known scholar in masculinity and sports studies) was elated when his 5 year old son declared he wanted a Barbie doll. It was practically a ceremony, going to the store, standing in an aisle of Barbies, deciding which one was going to make it home. Anyway, my Prof. said that the very first second his son took the Barbie outside to play, the neighborhood bully (ooohh, I hated them) promptly humiliated the little boy in front of the other kids. He was much too embarrassed o take it out after that. The Barbie is probably now at the bottom of the toy bin, collecting dust.

(Marica) Can you imagine the shattered decorum of MacDonald's as one too many Darcy fans get yet another Mr Collins and Wickham? LOL!! i was totally thinking that right after i posted my MacDonalds idea! :) I know I would throw a complete fit if I got Mr. Collins instead of Darcy in my Happy Meal! :)

(SBR) know I would throw a complete fit if I got Mr. Collins instead of Darcy in my Happy Meal! :) They would be required to rename it The Seriously Displeased Meal I AM sorry about the Barbie doll episode. Druther marry the kid who wanted the doll when he grows up than those with the bully problems. The Bullies tend to take their childishness out on their wives! But, that little guy sounds like a winner, bottom of dustbin or not!

LOL, Sue, SBR and Marcia! (Sue) Unfortunately, I only have sons. They like sports and dirt. My brother and his GI Joe (do they still make that?) used to regularly pull the head off my Barbie doll (among other things). (Sue)also a video of all the outtakes. What an idea! Are you out there, Sue B?

Oh for a snappy. I watched part of P&P last night. What can I say...no date. I practically burned up my pause button. Do you realize you could have a whole photo album of fantastic Darcy shots if you could snappy every frame? There are still freezeframes of him I've not noticed before. My alltime favorite is when he comes across Lizzy walking to Netherfield. "Would you be so kind as to take me to her?" He looks at her quizzically for a moment and then turns to the side gesturing with his arm. The looks on his face here are priceless. He's toying with her, smirking, enjoying her discomfort and enjoying her appearance. Someone once said Colin's Darcy never smiles though he does smile in the book. I contend Colin's smiling here. A close second is the twin to this scene when they bump into each other at Pemberley. Just getting snappies of each of his subtle facial movements would be a lesson in how to show embarrassment. Is it too early to put a snappy on my Christmas list?

Oooh, Heide, it is never to early to begin a Christmas list! Snappy is on mine, too =) One of my all time fav places to freeze then march slowly through the frames is when he is lakeside undoing his shirt. His face shows all the passion and deep thought connected with his current problem of winning the affection of Miss Elizabeth Bennet. Too delightful and precious. You want to leap through the screen to hug and kiss him!!! (At least, I do!)

Love the idea of the Lizzy and Darcy dolls, but I think it's lucky for me that such a thing does not exist. My husband thinks my obsession is odd enough and I know I couldn't resist dressing up those dolls :-) I watched some P&P today too and was sighing over the tortured looks FD gives as he's writing his letter to EB. Poor, injured boy. I agree with you, Heide. I love his expression in the "on foot" scene!

(Jana2) I know I couldn't resist dressing up those dolls LOL ! I was thinking the same thing, but with the anatomically correct Ken and Barbie...would you not peek?! ;) I adore the way, in "On foot?!" he really gives her a thorough once over with a smirk to end all smirks. It has to be all those pheromones calling to him!

(Marcia) I adore the way, in "On foot?!" he really gives her a thorough once over with a smirk to end all smirks. Yes! And then when he turns to one side to let her pass, he gives her another one. He's blatently admiring this saucy little thing.

(Heide)"Would you be so kind as to take me to her?" He looks at her quizzically for a moment and then turns to the side gesturing with his arm. The looks on his face here are priceless. He's toying with her, smirking, enjoying her discomfort and enjoying her appearance. Someone once said Colin's Darcy never smiles though he does smile in the book. I contend Colin's smiling here. He definitely gives a tight little smile, looks like he wants to grin, but it would be impolite to be so unrestrained. I wonder exactly what Darcy is thinking about Elizabeth -prob. impolite lecherous thoughts ;-)) .

(Sue), I wonder exactly what Darcy is thinking about Elizabeth -prob. impolite lecherous thoughts ;-)) "I would rather take you somewhere else, my dearest, loveliest Elizabeth" ;-)))

(Sue)I wonder exactly what Darcy is thinking about Elizabeth -prob. impolite lecherous thoughts ;-)) . In Andrew Davies' mind, yes, Darcy was indeed thinking impolite thoughts. Remember the mock interview between Bridget Jones and CF? The stage directions for this scene indicated that at that moment, Darcy was to have...er...how shall I put it...not so much a gun in his pants, but something else going on in there. :-D

(Winter) Remember the mock interview between Bridget Jones and CF? The stage directions for this scene indicated that at that moment, Darcy was to have...er...how shall I put it...not so much a gun in his pants, but something else going on in there LOL!! I really have got to read BJD!

SBR: You can find Helen Fielding's Bridget interview of Mr. Darcy at this url: http://hem.passagen.se/lmw/bridget.html This was in The Independent, not in the book, but the book is worth reading as there are several mentions of Darcy/Firth in it.

Oh Karen!!! That was SO Funny! *wiping eyes* I was literally ROTFLMAO!! My co-workers probably think i've totally lost it! :) Thanks a million times! what a treat during a long and boring work day! :)

(Moon) "I would rather take you somewhere else, my dearest, loveliest Elizabeth" ;-))) Precisely! LOL! Her eyes weren't the only thing "brightened by the exercise."

Oh dear, I had never read that interview, it is *so* funny! "What you always wanted to ask Colin Firth but would die before you ask him" :-P

(Gi) "What you always wanted to ask Colin Firth but would die before you ask him" LOL!! All those questions about his Wet Shirt! (How many times did you take it off and on?) :) Absolutely TOO funny!! and when he finally gave up and agreed with her that Mr Darcy was the only real life historical figure he'd ever played- LOL!